irclog2html for #elive on 20050910

`00:00.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`no conect`
`00:00.28`	`roxville2`	`damn, what am i doing wrong?`
`00:01.59`	`roxville2`	`Thanatermesis, should i disable nat for a little while?`
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`00:03.09`	`roxville2`	`hmmm i have a home network. you need a more specific address?`
`00:04.06`	`*** join/#elive sinplomo (n=sinplomo@196.206.98.125)`
`00:05.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im don't know`
`00:05.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`not works`
`00:15.22`	`felix`	`21:05 < roxville2> damn, what am i doing wrong?`
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`00:15.32`	`felix`	`oops se fu� :-/`
`00:15.35`	`felix`	`no pude hacer el chiste`
`00:15.37`	`felix`	`:-D`
`00:15.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDD`
`00:15.41`	`felix`	`ser� para otra vez`
`00:16.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`00:16.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`joder, que duro es crear interfaces edje...`
`00:16.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero creo que ya casi lo tengo ;)`
`00:16.23`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: jejeje bien!`
`00:16.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya veras que cosa mas linda estoy creando ;)`
`00:16.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`la gente no sabe ni como instalarse elive o donde hay que picar ?`
`00:16.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues yo se lo voy a poner en sus narices xDDD`
`00:20.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`ala, vamos a ver que tal queda... :)`
`00:20.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`:S`
`00:20.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`no funciona...`
`00:20.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`NO FUNCIONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA`
`00:23.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`si que funcionaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!!`
`00:24.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero que liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidno`
`00:24.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`que liiiiiiiiindo me a quedado :D`
`00:24.56`	`sinplomo`	`el que ?`
`00:25.11`	`sinplomo`	`felix, estoy esperando a que me envies eso`
`00:25.12`	`sinplomo`	`...`
`00:25.14`	`sinplomo`	`pliz`
`00:26.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`aaaarreando el video !`
`00:27.24`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, making Elive video ?`
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`00:30.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`no sinplomo`
`00:30.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`es que la gente es tan inutil que no saben como se instala Elive`
`00:30.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues les e dado la solucion a sus problemas`
`00:30.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`mira:`
`00:30.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/tmp/install-me.avi`
`00:30.47`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, a que te dije que hacia falta un how to o algo`
`00:30.48`	`sinplomo`	`xDDD`
`00:30.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDD`
`00:31.01`	`sinplomo`	`y tu te reias de mi :(`
`00:31.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`que va, si con esta no la captan es para colgarlos xD`
`00:31.41`	`felix`	`sinplomo: ahora va muchachote, no es tan f�cil... ahora estoy en casa tengo tiempo :)`
`00:31.45`	`felix`	`sinplomo: antes estaba en el trabajo`
`00:31.50`	`felix`	`sinplomo: dame un momento que compacto`
`00:32.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix mira ese video, a ver si te gusta ;)`
`00:32.06`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`00:32.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`no me digas que no mola? ;)`
`00:32.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`00:32.50`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, como metiste eso de Install Me`
`00:32.51`	`sinplomo`	`que mola`
`00:32.57`	`sinplomo`	`:)`
`00:33.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`pure code ;)`
`00:33.15`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: ya lo he visto, el enano que te daba vestido de gat�bela?`
`00:33.28`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: est� disponible en amule si pones Thanatermesis + gatubela + enano`
`00:33.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`00:33.46`	`felix`	`:)`
`00:33.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/tmp/install-me.avi <---- felix`
`00:34.19`	`felix`	`a verrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrr`
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`00:35.55`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: muy bueno!`
`00:36.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`:D`
`00:36.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`con esto es con lo que se hará el panel de control de Elive ;)`
`00:36.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`esta potente, eh? ;)`
`00:36.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`lo que lleva un trabajooooooo.... uffff`
`00:36.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`no veas lo que me a costado hacer el puto icono xD`
`00:37.29`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: de qu� trabaj�s?`
`00:37.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`no trabajo por el momento`
`00:38.25`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: ahh :)`
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`00:39.26`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, ????`
`00:39.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo ????`
`00:39.43`	`sinplomo`	`<sinplomo> Thanatermesis, como metiste eso de Install Me`
`00:39.45`	`sinplomo`	`<Thanatermesis> pure code ;)`
`00:39.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues eso`
`00:39.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`codigo codigo codigo`
`00:40.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:40.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:40.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`"image"; }`
`00:40.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:40.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`image"; }`
`00:40.31`	`sinplomo`	`okis`
`00:40.33`	`sinplomo`	`un edje`
`00:40.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`sacto ;)`
`00:40.46`	`sinplomo`	`y lo pasaste a video ?`
`00:40.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`grabé en video lo que hace`
`00:40.56`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: yo tambi�n quer�a hacer cosas bonitas trabajando`
`00:41.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`me esta tocando lo huevos, no para de salir la puta pancarta en el engage xD`
`00:41.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix efl ;)`
`00:41.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`librerias de enlightenment ;9`
`00:41.37`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: no tengo tiempo la verdad... pero me encantar�a`
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`00:41.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 out of memory !`
`00:42.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix ya... ese es el mayor problema :/`
`00:42.07`	`pr0t0cod7`	`non..`
`00:42.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah non ?`
`00:42.14`	`pr0t0cod7`	`freeze..`
`00:42.29`	`pr0t0cod7`	`freeze du kernel..rebooot`
`00:42.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 j'ai trouvée une solution a les inutiles users qui sait pas "ou" on installe Elive`
`00:42.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`00:42.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`auch`
`00:42.44`	`pr0t0cod7`	`je connais pas les magik syskey la`
`00:42.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/tmp/install-me.avi <---- pr0t0cod7`
`00:43.10`	`pr0t0cod7`	`lol les inutiles users xD`
`00:43.27`	`felix`	`sinplomo: dcc sent`
`00:43.42`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, no te va el dcc`
`00:43.49`	`sinplomo`	`ves, felix puede enviarme`
`00:43.51`	`sinplomo`	`:)`
`00:43.56`	`sinplomo`	`felix, gracias`
`00:44.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`ben.. magik keys, tuer totalment ( alt-gr + Impr-pant-pet-sys + K ) pr0t0cod7`
`00:44.03`	`felix`	`sinplomo: de nada`
`00:45.47`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: c'est quoi ce truc la video XD`
`00:46.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 un icone avec des effects edje ;)`
`00:46.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 pour que les inutile users ils savent ou installer Elive lol`
`00:46.15`	`pr0t0cod7`	`ouais mais ca set a quoi`
`00:46.18`	`pr0t0cod7`	`sert`
`00:46.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:46.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`00:46.32`	`pr0t0cod7`	`epanel?`
`00:46.40`	`sinplomo`	`elpanel`
`00:46.42`	`sinplomo`	`;)`
`00:46.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui, le paneaux de configuration de le livecd actuelle par le moment`
`00:46.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`la il et le installateur ;)`
`00:47.07`	`pr0t0cod7`	`ah si elpanel xD`
`00:47.34`	`pr0t0cod7`	`ok bah c'est bien`
`00:47.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`c'est marrant de voire un icone que il ai des edje effects non ? lol`
`00:47.44`	`pr0t0cod7`	`c'est que sur e16 ? :P`
`00:47.51`	`pr0t0cod7`	`pas mal ;)`
`00:47.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`bon, tu sait deja tout ce que on peut lui faire ;)`
`00:48.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`mais c'est pas mal de boulot nonplus... :/`
`00:48.14`	`pr0t0cod7`	`il est ou le howto ? :þ`
`00:48.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`ben non, je ne croix pas, un edje cest un edje, il doit marcher aussi sur e17, je me demande ce quil fait dans les menu de e17 lol`
`00:49.08`	`pr0t0cod7`	`et dans la ibar`
`00:49.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`je veut le essayer lol`
`00:49.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`attn, je reviens xD`
`00:49.22`	`tzulberti`	`thana> se me borro el xfree86 tras actualizar, y se me instalo el xorg, pero todo funciona bien`
`00:49.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`bon, je garde tout ça... je ne veut pas segfaulter lol`
`00:49.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfecto tzulberti :)`
`00:49.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah pr0t0cod7 , on a passée a xorg ;)`
`00:50.01`	`pr0t0cod7`	`alors pas de bugs? pour l'instant...`
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`00:50.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`bof... ça va pas mal du tout en tout cas les bugs ;)`
`00:50.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`pour une premiere release`
`00:50.32`	`sinplomo`	`<sinplomo> hola`
`00:50.32`	`sinplomo`	`<sinplomo> en la instalacion de hoary te pregunta la pass de root ?`
`00:50.32`	`sinplomo`	`<[DeV]NuLL> sinplomo: no`
`00:50.32`	`sinplomo`	`<[DeV]NuLL> tienes que usar sudo`
`00:50.34`	`sinplomo`	`joder`
`00:50.37`	`sinplomo`	`que inutiles`
`00:50.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`et quil doit suporter toutes les coneries de les gents...`
`00:50.41`	`pr0t0cod7`	`cool`
`00:50.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`et le hardware et tout...`
`00:51.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O sinplomo`
`00:51.27`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, la hoary`
`00:51.35`	`sinplomo`	`te pone por defecto pass blanco`
`00:51.45`	`sinplomo`	`o sea, con sudo sin meter pass puedes hacer todo`
`00:51.47`	`sinplomo`	`...`
`00:51.58`	`sinplomo`	`ya les colare yo un sudo rm -rf /`
`00:52.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`00:54.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`parfait, je vais voire ce que ça donne sur e17 lol`
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`01:00.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui pr0t0cod7 , on le voit, mais le e17 il a les dimensions limitée, tut voit un bout qoi... mon engage e16 il et assez grand, et il fait pas ça alors`
`01:00.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`ici tu le voit bien qoi`
`01:01.52`	`pr0t0cod7`	`hmm bizzare`
`01:02.02`	`pr0t0cod7`	`et dans entangle?`
`01:02.21`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, lee a wincide en #debian-es ..`
`01:02.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`ben non, c'est logique, comme quand tu redimensionne le ibar... il a un "size" maximum le ibar... alors une foit il depasse la hauteur, on le voit plus`
`01:03.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo crees que no tengo bastante con lo que acabo escuchando por aqui ? hoy e tenido que arreglar un /dev/cdrom -> /dev/hdc a 3 personas a la vez en este canal, que no sabian ni arregalr eso ¬¬`
`01:03.45`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, ln -s ...`
`01:04.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 j'ai compris comment ça marche le truc de edje pour les "layers" comme sur eclair ;)`
`01:04.42`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: cool ca m'interesse`
`01:04.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`de fait, c'est tellment simple coment metre le ordre des elements... plus "suivant" tu met une part, et plus "au dessus" tu le vera`
`01:04.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`01:04.58`	`pr0t0cod7`	`ah bah oui`
`01:05.01`	`pr0t0cod7`	`lol`
`01:05.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`01:05.06`	`pr0t0cod7`	`c'est con xD`
`01:05.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`ben oui`
`01:05.17`	`pr0t0cod7`	`le pire c'est que je le savais deja`
`01:05.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`ça je me ai rendu compte pedant je fesait le "cell"`
`01:05.39`	`pr0t0cod7`	`avec mon theme le menu javais deja teste`
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`01:05.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui, c'est ça, moi aussi lol`
`01:05.59`	`egrub`	`Thanatermesis: Estoy en problemas de xorg porque no quiere mi nvidia`
`01:06.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`01:06.16`	`sinplomo`	`egrub, nvidia-installer -uninstall`
`01:06.20`	`sinplomo`	`y luego reinstala`
`01:06.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7`
`01:06.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`<Thanatermesis> http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/cell-edje.jpg for any person interessed, only #include "cell.edc"; with the file http://thana.no-ip.org/edje/examples/cell.edc in the "parts" of your edje, and obtain a "cell" for calculate and look better the position of the elements in the edje code, after, only delete the line`
`01:06.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`<HandyAndE> Thanatermesis: what for?`
`01:06.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`<Thanatermesis> only for look better the position of you like to put the elements, have 10 horizontal bars and 10 vertical bars, synonimous of relatives... 0.1 0.2 0.3 etc...`
`01:06.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`<HandyAndE> oh`
`01:06.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`<Thanatermesis> you can resize perfectly and are adapted to your image in the relative positions`
`01:06.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`<Thanatermesis> s/image/group`
`01:06.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`<HandyAndE> cool`
`01:06.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`ça peut te etre utile ;)`
`01:07.21`	`sinplomo`	`para elpanel ;)`
`01:09.46`	`pr0t0cod7`	`ok je jetterai un coup d'oeil`
`01:10.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`tu le declare tout juste ou tu veut, et tu a le "grille"`
`01:10.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`avec les 10x10 exactes comme reference a relative`
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`01:13.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`bon... demain je teste elive sous xorg...`
`01:13.18`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, oye`
`01:13.30`	`sinplomo`	`tengo al 2.6.13 con los parches de conkoliva`
`01:13.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`no lo voy a usar`
`01:13.47`	`sinplomo`	`( son parches para mejor el kernel para el desktop )`
`01:13.50`	`sinplomo`	`don udev`
`01:13.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`ni voy a cambiar de kernel`
`01:13.55`	`sinplomo`	`*con udev`
`01:14.00`	`sinplomo`	`y soporte fb rulando`
`01:14.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`vale`
`01:14.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`si me compilas cloop y unionfs`
`01:14.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`01:14.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`de todas formas tienes que conseguirlo (que va a ser que no) xD`
`01:14.31`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, por ?`
`01:14.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`asi que...`
`01:14.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`nanai`
`01:14.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`porque no podras`
`01:14.40`	`sinplomo`	`porque no ?`
`01:14.46`	`sinplomo`	`que cabron ...`
`01:14.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`no pueden ni los devel de morphix vas a poder tu xD`
`01:14.54`	`sinplomo`	`porque no`
`01:14.55`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`01:14.58`	`sinplomo`	`pude con nvidia`
`01:14.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`vale va`
`01:14.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`ponte`
`01:15.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`01:15.00`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`01:15.11`	`sinplomo`	`pasame el source de esos modulo`
`01:15.13`	`sinplomo`	`*modulos`
`01:15.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`google lo sabe todo`
`01:15.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`y apt tambien`
`01:15.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt unionfs`
`01:15.27`	`apt`	`[unionfs] a stackable unification filesystem. See http://www.fsl.cs.sunysb.edu/project-unionfs.html for details.`
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`01:15.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`que mas quieres ?`
`01:15.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`01:15.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt cloop`
`01:15.37`	`apt`	`cloop is, like, a kernel module for a compressed looback drive`
`01:15.54`	`Elive_user`	`hello`
`01:15.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`cloop dice que preguntes a tito google xD`
`01:16.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`hello GhostCell`
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`01:16.54`	`sinplomo`	`egrub, que ?`
`01:16.56`	`GhostCell`	`anyone speak english?`
`01:16.58`	`sinplomo`	`funciono ?`
`01:17.02`	`egrub`	`No.`
`01:17.03`	`sinplomo`	`GhostCell, all :)`
`01:17.06`	`egrub`	`Problemas de nvidia`
`01:17.08`	`sinplomo`	`egrub, pasame el log`
`01:17.10`	`GhostCell`	`ah great`
`01:17.12`	`egrub`	`Ok`
`01:17.37`	`GhostCell`	`i just downloaded elive n booted it`
`01:17.53`	`sinplomo`	`egrub, no`
`01:17.59`	`sinplomo`	`/var/log/`
`01:18.02`	`sinplomo`	`mira ahi algo de nvidia`
`01:18.07`	`egrub`	`Ok`
`01:18.53`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, estoy buildeando los modulos :)`
`01:18.59`	`sinplomo`	`ya tengo el cloop`
`01:19.06`	`sinplomo`	`y en deb ;)`
`01:20.42`	`sinplomo`	`egrub, haz rmmod nvidia`
`01:20.42`	`GhostCell`	`how do i install onto my hard disk?`
`01:20.54`	`GhostCell`	`im running from cd now`
`01:21.24`	`egrub`	`dhcppc0:/home/lilo78# rmmod nvidia`
`01:21.24`	`egrub`	`FATAL: Kernel does not have unload support.`
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`01:22.03`	`damosu`	`pos a recompilar`
`01:22.33`	`damosu`	`metel el module unloading y el force mode unloading`
`01:22.38`	`damosu`	`o como se diga`
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`01:23.25`	`egrub`	`damosu: De que estas hablando?`
`01:23.29`	`sinplomo`	`egrub, has compilado mal tu kernel`
`01:23.35`	`damosu`	`FATAL: Kernel does not have unload support.`
`01:23.52`	`egrub`	`Ya veo`
`01:24.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`GhostCell`
`01:24.11`	`egrub`	`Estoy usando el mismo kernel.`
`01:24.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/tmp/install-me.avi <---- GhostCell`
`01:24.21`	`egrub`	`Solo kernel.`
`01:24.22`	`egrub`	`2.6.13`
`01:24.46`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, oye`
`01:24.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`tu vois ce que je veut dire pr0t0cod7 sinplomo ?...`
`01:24.56`	`sinplomo`	`logre compilar cloop`
`01:25.11`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, je te le disait ça fait qq jours`
`01:25.25`	`sinplomo`	`et tu te foutais completment de moi >_<`
`01:25.43`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, unionfs tiene un bug en un .c`
`01:25.48`	`sinplomo`	`...`
`01:25.52`	`sinplomo`	`inode.c`
`01:25.55`	`GhostCell`	`thanks thana`
`01:26.05`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, linea 2450`
`01:26.11`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: quoi?`
`01:26.39`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: ah lol xD`
`01:26.42`	`egrub`	`sinplomo: Hace rato lo instal� nvidia-glx por eso se carga los kernel-2.4.27`
`01:26.44`	`pr0t0cod7`	`hum... oui`
`01:26.57`	`egrub`	`Por eso manej� mal`
`01:27.27`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: tu connais electricsheep?`
`01:27.36`	`sinplomo`	`egrub, no es eso`
`01:27.42`	`sinplomo`	`compilasta mal el kernel ...`
`01:27.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`ça me dit quelque chose pr0t0cod7 mais non`
`01:27.46`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: je viens de tester c'est pas mal`
`01:27.55`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: un screensaver de la mort`
`01:28.07`	`sinplomo`	`http://electricsheep.org/`
`01:28.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmh`
`01:28.18`	`GhostCell`	`lol so easy aa`
`01:28.27`	`GhostCell`	`wat version is good`
`01:28.30`	`GhostCell`	`16 or 17?`
`01:28.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`all are installed`
`01:28.41`	`egrub`	`sinplomo: Ahora recompilo el kernel pero tengo solo el mismo 2.6.13`
`01:28.55`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: quand ton pc il est en veille-> screensaver tous les ordis il sont conectés sur un serveur et ils calculent des fractales animées avec un algorythme génétique et tout xD`
`01:29.02`	`sinplomo`	`egrub, mete el soporte para unloading modules`
`01:29.20`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: ca tue, ca pourrai etre pas mal sur elive`
`01:29.32`	`sinplomo`	`apt-get install electricsheep`
`01:29.34`	`sinplomo`	`:)`
`01:29.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`01:29.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`ça a l'aire beau... je vais tester`
`01:30.02`	`pr0t0cod7`	`hehe`
`01:30.02`	`sinplomo`	`donde cojones ..`
`01:30.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`'--==(/tmpfs/icon/elpanel)==--> electricsheep`
`01:30.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`ccurl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'v2d5.sheepserver.net'`
`01:30.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`lost contact with v2d5.sheepserver.net, cannot retrieve sheep.`
`01:30.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`url: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'v2d5.sheepserver.net'`
`01:30.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`lost contact with v2d5.sheepserver.net, cannot render frames.`
`01:30.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`kuak!`
`01:30.41`	`pr0t0cod7`	`:o`
`01:31.00`	`sinplomo`	`same thing`
`01:31.05`	`egrub`	`ahora hago es make install? sinplomo`
`01:31.26`	`sinplomo`	`egrub, recompila el kernel`
`01:31.27`	`sinplomo`	`make`
`01:31.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`des vieux pacakges...`
`01:31.32`	`sinplomo`	`make modules_install`
`01:31.35`	`sinplomo`	`make install`
`01:31.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/e/electricsheep/electricsheep_2.6.3-1_i386.deb`
`01:31.49`	`egrub`	`sinplomo: Pero el make mrproper?`
`01:32.16`	`sinplomo`	`ni idea`
`01:32.23`	`sinplomo`	`creo que eso es apra los 2.4`
`01:32.30`	`egrub`	`Ya veo`
`01:32.42`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis,`
`01:32.43`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:32.43`	`sinplomo`	`/usr/src/modules/unionfs/inode.c:2540: aviso: inicialización de tipo de puntero incompatible`
`01:32.43`	`sinplomo`	`make[2]: *** [/usr/src/modules/unionfs/inode.o] Error 1`
`01:32.43`	`sinplomo`	`make[1]: *** [_module_/usr/src/modules/unionfs] Error 2`
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`01:32.50`	`sinplomo`	`hay que hablar con los devs de unionfs`
`01:32.52`	`GhostCell`	`i think the partition morphher hanged`
`01:33.05`	`sinplomo`	`GhostCell, reiser ?`
`01:33.08`	`synd`	`is there a way to set that all windows that open are to be autoshaded?`
`01:33.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo los devs de unionfs curran lo que no te imaginas... no te mates, no voy a incluir ese kernel`
`01:33.18`	`GhostCell`	`reiser?`
`01:33.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 comment je le lance ? je croix que il attend le delay la`
`01:33.59`	`egrub`	`sinplomo: No hace falta el update-grub porque ya tengo agregado?`
`01:34.38`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: oui la premiere fois il est long c'est expliqué sur le site`
`01:35.02`	`sinplomo`	`egrub, exacto`
`01:35.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, bon, ok, je le lance alors`
`01:35.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`je laise...`
`01:35.29`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, pos dejamos las cosas asi`
`01:35.33`	`sinplomo`	`cloop lo logre`
`01:35.46`	`sinplomo`	`unionfs no, peta en la linea 2540 el inode.c`
`01:35.54`	`sinplomo`	`y aparentement esta todo bien ahi ...`
`01:35.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues si no hay unionfs no hay nada`
`01:36.02`	`sinplomo`	`ya ya`
`01:36.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`ademas, vas a empezar a compilar TODOS los drivers que metieron los de morphix ?`
`01:36.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`targetas wifi y demas ?`
`01:36.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`lo dudo`
`01:36.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`y luego, no puedo incluir un kernel asi por las buenas...`
`01:36.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`que pasa con los bugs ?`
`01:36.36`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, okis okis`
`01:36.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`quieres un chorro nuevo de bugs ?`
`01:36.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`porque yo no`
`01:36.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`prefiero arreglar lo que hay, y luego hacer algo nuevo cuando haya algo bueno`
`01:38.18`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, conoces module-assistant ?`
`01:38.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`nunca lo e probado`
`01:44.20`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, pruebalo`
`01:44.28`	`sinplomo`	`construir modules nunca fue tan facil`
`01:44.33`	`sinplomo`	`ademas, es muy limpio`
`01:44.36`	`sinplomo`	`te crea debs`
`01:44.49`	`sinplomo`	`y vamos; te bajas el source de los modulos`
`01:44.53`	`sinplomo`	`descomprimers`
`01:44.58`	`sinplomo`	`*descomprimes`
`01:45.13`	`sinplomo`	`ni eso`
`01:45.21`	`sinplomo`	`lanzas module assistant`
`01:45.29`	`sinplomo`	`eliges modulos y el te crea los debs`
`01:46.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 la il marche, il et bien beau oui...`
`01:47.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`comment on le met sur fullscreen ?`
`01:47.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`ou changer la animation ?`
`01:47.12`	`pr0t0cod7`	`faut regarder les options`
`01:47.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`jai deja regardée mais je ne voit rien :/`
`01:47.31`	`pr0t0cod7`	`les anims apparemment il est super long il les telecharge du serveur`
`01:47.43`	`pr0t0cod7`	`il faut le laisser tourner une nuit`
`01:48.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`01:48.02`	`pr0t0cod7`	`et apres chaque ordi il enoie une image de lanimation finale`
`01:48.10`	`pr0t0cod7`	`envoie`
`01:48.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`bizzarre quand meme comme fonctionment`
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`01:49.44`	`pr0t0cod7`	`en tout cas a voir ce qui est deja fait sur le serveur ca marche tres bien ;)`
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`01:49.52`	`pr0t0cod7`	`c'est magnifique`
`01:50.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui...`
`01:50.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`essaye "jess" et "goom" sur le xmms pr0t0cod7 ;)`
`01:50.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`ils sont trop bien aussi, au ritme de la musique qoi`
`01:50.40`	`pr0t0cod7`	`je le lance comme ca electricsheep --display-anim 0 pour voir demain si il y a des nouveaux trucs`
`01:51.07`	`pr0t0cod7`	`oui mais bon la le rendu il est fait par des millers d'ordis et avec un algorythme de ouf`
`01:51.35`	`pr0t0cod7`	`bon c'est beau :) je vais me coucher xD`
`01:51.54`	`pr0t0cod7`	`bonne nuit allz`
`01:52.03`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:52.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`01:52.11`	`sinplomo`	`night pr0t0cod7`
`01:52.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui, c'est genial oui`
`01:52.13`	`egrub`	`sinplomo: Funcion�!!`
`01:52.14`	`egrub`	`:D`
`01:52.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`moi aussi je vais coucher bien toto`
`01:52.19`	`egrub`	`14(04 Multimedia 14) 00Video Card: 0714[00 Screen Resolution: 071024x768 00pixels 00/ 0724 00Bits 14\|00 DRI:07 Yes 14] 14\| 0714\|00 CD-Rom: 07ASUS CRW-5232AS 14\|00 CD-RW: 07Maxtor 2F020J0`
`01:52.20`	`elive-bot`	`egrub: 14(04 Multimedia 14) 00Video Card: 0714[00 Screen Resolution: 071024x768 00pixels 00/ 0724 00Bits 1400 DRI:07 Yes 14] 14 071400 CD-Rom: 07ASUS CRW-5232AS 1400 CD-RW: 07Maxtor 2F020J0`
`01:52.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`bon nuit pr0t0cod7`
`01:52.23`	`sinplomo`	`egrub, claro`
`01:52.24`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`01:52.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix elive-bot es un copion xD`
`01:52.46`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, por cierto, sigue enojada la novia ?`
`01:52.50`	`egrub`	`Thanatermesis: Este bot es una mierda!!!!!!`
`01:53.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`bah, siempre se enoja cuando toco el ordenador xD`
`01:53.08`	`egrub`	`xD`
`01:53.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`egrub diselo a felix que lo a echo el xDDD`
`01:53.22`	`egrub`	`Linux dhcppc0 2.6.13 #2 Fri Sep 9 22:43:31 ART 2005 i686 GNU/Linux`
`01:53.26`	`egrub`	`Sin SMP`
`01:53.28`	`egrub`	`:)`
`01:55.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://v2d6.sheepserver.net/cgi/frame.cgi?id=2896&frame=28`
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`01:56.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`me voy a dormir`
`01:56.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`buenas noches`
`01:59.30`	`felix`	`22:57 < egrub> Thanatermesis: Este bot es una mierda!!!!!!`
`01:59.39`	`felix`	`egrub: cuando aprendas a programar uno, ponelo en el canal que lo saco.`
`01:59.47`	`ThanaZzzz`	`http://v2d6.sheepserver.net/cgi/dead.cgi?id=700`
`01:59.53`	`ThanaZzzz`	`xDDDD`
`02:00.06`	`egrub`	`felix: No necesito esto. Tengo amigos reales.`
`02:00.07`	`egrub`	`:)`
`02:00.23`	`felix`	`egrub: s�... como ThanaZzzz , un espa�ol que vive en b�lgica`
`02:00.25`	`felix`	`XXXDDD`
`02:00.34`	`egrub`	`xD`
`02:00.39`	`ThanaZzzz`	`http://v2d6.sheepserver.net/cgi/best.cgi`
`02:00.54`	`ThanaZzzz`	`ya si, buenas noches`
`02:01.14`	`felix`	`ThanaZzzz: buenas noches`
`02:01.45`	`egrub`	`ThanaZzzz: Buenas noches`
`02:01.47`	`egrub`	`xD`
`02:02.49`	`sinplomo`	`fractales ...`
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`02:02.54`	`linoleum`	`hi`
`02:02.58`	`sinplomo`	`hi linoleum`
`02:03.21`	`linoleum`	`I got a probleme with e17 : since I try to run e17 with Gnome session, my e17 mouse cursor is "ugly" ... how can I have the right mouse cursor??`
`02:03.34`	`linoleum`	`now , the mouse cursor is ugly, even when I lauch e17 al`
`02:03.41`	`linoleum`	`alone`
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`02:18.57`	`synd`	`how can i set the default window border as autoshade?`
`02:20.05`	`synd`	`i hate making every window that opens to be autoshade`
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`02:34.50`	`roxville`	`hi felix, how are you feeling tonight?`
`02:36.27`	`synd`	`how can i set the default window border as autoshade?`
`02:36.40`	`sinplomo`	`synd, check remeber option`
`02:37.46`	`synd`	`huh`
`02:38.20`	`roxville`	`synd, are you in e16 or e17`
`02:39.16`	`roxville`	`in e16, you right-click on the desktop, and choose remember settings`
`02:39.26`	`roxville`	`there you will get a dialog`
`02:39.32`	`synd`	`roxville: E16`
`02:39.43`	`synd`	`okay, im there. but i dont quite understand it`
`02:40.33`	`roxville`	`neither do i, but maybe i've had a day or two longer on elive`
`02:41.07`	`roxville`	`just try all the settings till you find the one you're looking for`
`02:41.16`	`roxville`	`:)`
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`02:41.55`	`roxville`	`i just totally fucked up my elive install, so i can't help you that much`
`02:43.23`	`roxville`	`sinplomo, i just installed the kernel thana told me to install, 2.6.8`
`02:43.36`	`roxville`	`after that, i can't log in`
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`02:43.44`	`roxville`	`xserver won't start...`
`02:44.12`	`GhostCell`	`any1 know if elive can read ntfs?`
`02:44.23`	`roxville`	`i'll reinstall tomorrow, and just be happy till the next release`
`02:45.24`	`roxville`	`GhostCell, hmmm, haven't tried that in elive yet`
`02:45.31`	`roxville`	`sorry`
`02:45.40`	`GhostCell`	`i got loads of mp3 on my ntfs drive`
`02:46.06`	`GhostCell`	`anyway to open it?`
`02:46.13`	`roxville`	`alot of the elive-guys are in europe, so they are either exhausted or sleeping`
`02:46.25`	`GhostCell`	`ic`
`02:46.41`	`GhostCell`	`nevermind then, i'm installing it onto my hard drive right now`
`02:47.03`	`roxville`	`i had similar probs, so i formatted my win with fat32`
`02:47.14`	`roxville`	`not fun, but a whole lot easier`
`02:47.32`	`GhostCell`	`ic`
`02:47.45`	`GhostCell`	`im new to this linux thing`
`02:47.47`	`GhostCell`	`first time using`
`02:47.52`	`roxville`	`ahhh`
`02:48.21`	`GhostCell`	`already accidently formated my 40gig junk drive to linux fs`
`02:48.27`	`roxville`	`there are ways, but full ntfs support is not here yet, i think (I am NOT sure!)`
`02:48.44`	`roxville`	`accidentally?`
`02:48.59`	`roxville`	`been there dude!`
`02:49.15`	`GhostCell`	`i thought it worked like partition magic, u click this n that, at the end u click apply n only then it does it`
`02:49.40`	`GhostCell`	`when i was halfway through i was like, wait, maybe i need to backup some stuff`
`02:49.45`	`GhostCell`	`n opened winxp`
`02:49.49`	`GhostCell`	`n gone`
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`02:49.51`	`roxville`	`usually, it is a clone of partition magic`
`02:49.53`	`GhostCell`	`:(`
`02:50.05`	`roxville`	`ouch!`
`02:50.24`	`roxville`	`are you gonna do linux on all of it?`
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`02:50.34`	`roxville`	`or just a partition?`
`02:50.54`	`GhostCell`	`i wanted to use 8 gigs out of the 40`
`02:51.02`	`GhostCell`	`WANTED is the word`
`02:51.17`	`GhostCell`	`now i got 40 instead`
`02:51.33`	`roxville`	`yeah`
`02:52.05`	`GhostCell`	`are u using e16 or 17?`
`02:52.19`	`roxville`	`well, you can format that as fat32, and use what you want for linux and the rest for your new junk`
`02:52.32`	`GhostCell`	`ic`
`02:52.43`	`GhostCell`	`ok done installing`
`02:52.46`	`GhostCell`	`gonna reboot system`
`02:52.48`	`GhostCell`	`brb :p`
`02:52.48`	`roxville`	`i tend to make bigger and bigger partitions for linux though, coz it is addictive`
`02:53.00`	`roxville`	`good luck`
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`03:00.18`	`roxville`	`synd, you getting anywhere?`
`03:01.32`	`Elive_user2`	`quick question, once i've installed`
`03:04.53`	`roxville`	`ok?`
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`03:07.05`	`GhostCell`	`hi`
`03:07.09`	`GhostCell`	`hi`
`03:07.26`	`roxville`	`Elive_user2, what was your quick question`
`03:07.29`	`roxville`	`hi GhostCell`
`03:07.40`	`roxville`	`you in?`
`03:07.52`	`GhostCell`	`not yet :(`
`03:07.54`	`synd`	`roxville: cant figger it out :/`
`03:08.03`	`GhostCell`	`i cant boot from the partition i installed it on`
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`03:08.30`	`roxville`	`GhostCell, did you flag it as "boot"?`
`03:09.03`	`GhostCell`	`i made a G-somethin on the mbr of that hard disk`
`03:09.16`	`GhostCell`	`its on my 2nd hard disk, i can run the loader`
`03:09.32`	`GhostCell`	`but it says it cant mount the partition`
`03:09.45`	`GhostCell`	`wonder wat im doin wrong here`
`03:10.12`	`roxville`	`you installed grub (boot loader) into mbr, good`
`03:10.33`	`GhostCell`	`yea`
`03:10.44`	`GhostCell`	`my xp is on my first hard disk mbr`
`03:10.44`	`Elive_user3`	`hello everyone. i am having troubles installing E17 onto my hard disk. i booted the e17 livecd, went to control panel, clicked install to hard disk, and chose e17. the welcome login screen says its e16 and the theme is not the same as the e17 on the livecd. what does that mean?`
`03:10.59`	`GhostCell`	`my linux is on my 2nd hard disk mbr`
`03:11.01`	`roxville`	`then you did not flag your elive root partition as "boot"`
`03:11.36`	`Elive_user2`	`elive 3, on the login screen there is a small selection panel at the bottom left`
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`03:11.58`	`GhostCell`	`i tried to boot, it ran the grub`
`03:12.05`	`Elive_user3`	`ah, i did not check. so the selection panel will let me load either 16 or 17?`
`03:12.07`	`roxville`	`and then?`
`03:12.19`	`GhostCell`	`then the os menu, i picked elive, but it cant mount partition`
`03:12.21`	`Elive_user2`	`yes elive 3 : )`
`03:12.29`	`roxville`	`it's hardly even a panel`
`03:12.32`	`GhostCell`	`elive is on a extended logical partition though`
`03:12.34`	`Elive_user3`	`in that case, i will brb! lol =)`
`03:12.40`	`roxville`	`ghost`
`03:12.56`	`GhostCell`	`yo`
`03:13.04`	`roxville`	`then you did not put the "boot" flag on when you did the partitioning`
`03:13.21`	`GhostCell`	`i dont think so`
`03:13.40`	`GhostCell`	`if its not something i mentioned above`
`03:13.43`	`GhostCell`	`then i dont think i did it`
`03:13.50`	`roxville`	`then (like me), you will have to do it ALLLLLL over again`
`03:13.54`	`roxville`	`sorry`
`03:13.56`	`GhostCell`	`lol`
`03:14.03`	`GhostCell`	`ok how do i know if i flag it?`
`03:14.14`	`Elive_user2`	`luckily e-live install is fairly quick : )`
`03:14.20`	`roxville`	`use the "command line partitioner" option. it's not very hard`
`03:14.35`	`GhostCell`	`i've already resigned to the fact that i'm gonna fuckup my installation at least 2-3 times before i get it right`
`03:14.57`	`roxville`	`i've fucked up 8-9 times so far`
`03:15.06`	`GhostCell`	`damn`
`03:15.09`	`roxville`	`latest was an hour ago`
`03:15.15`	`Elive_user2`	`yeah, live cd's are sure a lot better thatn installing from scratch : )`
`03:15.24`	`Elive_user2`	`though`
`03:15.41`	`roxville`	`no it's cool, but the install script still needs some work`
`03:16.00`	`GhostCell`	`i hope i can find somethin to read my ntfs drive later though`
`03:16.26`	`GhostCell`	`u guys got a url for the installer walkthrough, if there is any`
`03:16.32`	`roxville`	`GhostCell, there is an option in the partitioner where you choose "bootable"`
`03:16.34`	`Elive_user2`	`I hate to gloat, but it worked great for me. although i did have an already dedicated swap and ext3`
`03:17.00`	`GhostCell`	`partition morpheR?`
`03:17.04`	`roxville`	`no walkthrough`
`03:17.25`	`roxville`	`click beside it, on the arrow`
`03:17.34`	`roxville`	`start the script`
`03:18.04`	`roxville`	`i am happy for you Elive_user2 !`
`03:18.05`	`GhostCell`	`wat???`
`03:18.21`	`roxville`	`ghost, start the install script again`
`03:18.25`	`GhostCell`	`ok`
`03:18.33`	`GhostCell`	`its the install to harddisk right?`
`03:18.53`	`roxville`	`when you reach the partition part, choose "commandline partitioner"`
`03:18.59`	`roxville`	`yes`
`03:19.16`	`Elive_user2`	`oh x-chat is in spanish...`
`03:19.18`	`GhostCell`	`ok im there`
`03:19.31`	`GhostCell`	`oh fuck`
`03:19.33`	`GhostCell`	`found it`
`03:19.47`	`roxville`	`it's not that bad`
`03:20.17`	`GhostCell`	`ok how do i continue`
`03:20.17`	`roxville`	`it will reformat your partition, but all you have to do`
`03:20.30`	`Elive_user2`	`bbl`
`03:20.36`	`GhostCell`	`oh ok`
`03:20.38`	`GhostCell`	`found it`
`03:20.48`	`roxville`	`is choose the root part. and enable`
`03:20.50`	`roxville`	`ok`
`03:20.59`	`GhostCell`	`its writing`
`03:21.09`	`roxville`	`wawesome!`
`03:21.17`	`roxville`	`awesome even!`
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`03:21.38`	`GhostCell`	`wat about swap?`
`03:21.47`	`GhostCell`	`i cant pick any swap`
`03:21.56`	`GhostCell`	`there's only no swap, sounds sad :(`
`03:22.02`	`roxville`	`what do you mean?`
`03:22.14`	`GhostCell`	`please select swap partition to use`
`03:22.14`	`roxville`	`you must have a swap`
`03:22.20`	`GhostCell`	`hrmm`
`03:22.28`	`GhostCell`	`maybe i need to reboot`
`03:22.33`	`roxville`	`no!`
`03:22.36`	`GhostCell`	`owh`
`03:23.02`	`roxville`	`kill the script and start over, or go back`
`03:23.07`	`GhostCell`	`ok`
`03:23.12`	`roxville`	`i think there was an option for that`
`03:23.50`	`roxville`	`how much RAM do you have?`
`03:23.58`	`GhostCell`	`512`
`03:24.19`	`roxville`	`good, then set 1024 MB as swap`
`03:24.19`	`GhostCell`	`fs type : linux ext3`
`03:24.23`	`GhostCell`	`is that ok?`
`03:24.49`	`roxville`	`no, it should say "swap"`
`03:26.27`	`roxville`	`will he be back?`
`03:26.37`	`roxville`	`lol, syscrusher`
`03:26.49`	`Syscrusher`	`no idea. i hope so.`
`03:27.05`	`roxville`	`me too. i gotta get some sleep soon`
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`03:27.47`	`roxville`	`i remember the time i spent on that stuff before i got it right`
`03:28.06`	`roxville`	`thank you for coming back! are you ready?`
`03:28.10`	`Syscrusher`	`well i wanted to say how awesome elive is. i got it installed on a celeron 700 i810 chipset w/no probs at all. the first distro that got my X11 config right !!!`
`03:28.24`	`roxville`	`cool!`
`03:28.32`	`roxville`	`i think it's awesome too!`
`03:28.42`	`roxville`	`ThanaZzzz, is THE guy`
`03:28.59`	`roxville`	`and sinplomo and some of the others are involved`
`03:29.08`	`Syscrusher`	`i'd say so. now if raster can get e17 all fixed we'll be set`
`03:29.17`	`roxville`	`yep :)`
`03:29.33`	`roxville`	`ghost?`
`03:29.46`	`Syscrusher`	`it's the first distro my wife wants me to replave her winME with : )`
`03:30.01`	`Syscrusher`	`yeah ghost, i can help a bit too tonight`
`03:30.05`	`roxville`	`in the partitioner, you have a "type" option`
`03:30.17`	`roxville`	`i know, my liked it too!`
`03:30.17`	`GhostCell`	`yea i got ext3`
`03:30.24`	`GhostCell`	`but wat about swap?`
`03:30.25`	`roxville`	`on what?`
`03:30.45`	`roxville`	`swap needs to bet set to..."SWAP"`
`03:30.54`	`GhostCell`	`ic2`
`03:31.09`	`roxville`	`Syscrusher, what i was saying was, my wife liked it too`
`03:31.23`	`Syscrusher`	`swap is just like a scratchdisk for junk the os needs. EXT3 is the actual filesystem for linux, well one of them`
`03:31.31`	`roxville`	`i think swap is "82"`
`03:31.44`	`Syscrusher`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:31.46`	`roxville`	`yeah`
`03:31.57`	`GhostCell`	`how much space should i allocate`
`03:32.05`	`roxville`	`since i tried suse, i have stopped using reiser4`
`03:32.10`	`GhostCell`	`i've only got 8 gigs to play around for both partitions`
`03:32.14`	`roxville`	`twice your ram`
`03:32.21`	`Syscrusher`	`ack yeah reiser=bad news`
`03:32.24`	`GhostCell`	`ok`
`03:32.42`	`Syscrusher`	`2x ram for the swap. use the rest for ext3`
`03:32.49`	`roxville`	`suse= even worse news`
`03:33.04`	`GhostCell`	`fs type is Linux`
`03:33.10`	`GhostCell`	`change that to ext3 right?`
`03:33.31`	`roxville`	`in fact, the only rpm distro i like, is blag`
`03:33.38`	`roxville`	`no, to swap`
`03:33.49`	`roxville`	`option 82, i think`
`03:34.03`	`GhostCell`	`i mean the first one`
`03:34.10`	`GhostCell`	`i've got the swap one done :)`
`03:34.11`	`Syscrusher`	`blag is nice, but still redhat based right?`
`03:34.12`	`roxville`	`ahhh ext3, yes`
`03:34.17`	`GhostCell`	`ok thanks`
`03:34.24`	`roxville`	`yes`
`03:34.49`	`Syscrusher`	`i actually like kanotix and have it set up w/grip to auto rip my cd collection`
`03:35.16`	`roxville`	`my savior has been the BIG south african distro, whose name you can not say in here :)`
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`03:35.29`	`roxville`	`yea, kanotix is nice`
`03:35.31`	`GhostCell`	`wat option is ext3`
`03:35.40`	`GhostCell`	`getting crosseyed lookin at the list :p`
`03:35.41`	`\|ee`	`hola`
`03:35.51`	`roxville`	`just put in "linux"`
`03:35.55`	`roxville`	`hola`
`03:35.58`	`GhostCell`	`ok`
`03:35.58`	`Syscrusher`	`yeah i just hate the lengthy install on "that" distro. it's not worth the trouble`
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`03:36.12`	`roxville`	`apt x en es mostly english in here right now`
`03:36.29`	`GhostCell`	`wrote partition table, but re-read table failed. reboot to update table`
`03:36.54`	`roxville`	`ok, but is the swap set as swap, and the boot flag on?`
`03:37.16`	`GhostCell`	`yea`
`03:37.43`	`roxville`	`good, then reboot..i don't REALLY think you have to, but...do it anyway`
`03:38.46`	`Syscrusher`	`i gotta go. be back later. good luck ghost`
`03:39.01`	`roxville`	`GhostCell, you still have to use the cd one more time, ok?`
`03:39.13`	`GhostCell`	`im installin it now`
`03:39.26`	`GhostCell`	`im definetly hanging on to this cd lol`
`03:39.52`	`GhostCell`	`my guess is i'll prob mess up my installation in a couple hours time`
`03:39.59`	`roxville`	`and you have to do the partitioner one more time, but just change the stuff to EXACTLY what you have right now, and do "write" ok?`
`03:40.07`	`GhostCell`	`ok`
`03:40.26`	`roxville`	`coz..i gotta go too`
`03:40.32`	`GhostCell`	`oh ok`
`03:40.33`	`roxville`	`hope to see you again, man`
`03:40.34`	`GhostCell`	`thanks for the help`
`03:40.40`	`roxville`	`where'd you live?`
`03:40.42`	`GhostCell`	`yea i'll be around`
`03:40.52`	`GhostCell`	`malaysia`
`03:40.57`	`GhostCell`	`other side of the world :p`
`03:41.05`	`roxville`	`i live in charleston, sc, usa, but i'm from sweden originally`
`03:41.12`	`GhostCell`	`ic`
`03:41.47`	`roxville`	`malaysia...i'm gonna fly home to sweden with their airline...seems pretty good!`
`03:42.17`	`GhostCell`	`haha`
`03:42.40`	`roxville`	`anyway, good luck! it's not hard, just a little...tedious`
`03:42.47`	`GhostCell`	`laters`
`03:42.52`	`roxville`	`taters`
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`04:19.34`	`\|ee`	`hi`
`04:20.01`	`\|ee`	`i have elive.iso downloaded`
`04:20.13`	`\|ee`	`and i probe this liveCD with qemu`
`04:20.17`	`\|ee`	`i like this e17`
`04:20.24`	`\|ee`	`please help me to get it`
`04:20.24`	`elive-bot`	`\|ee: Publicos:`
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`04:20.24`	`elive-bot`	`\|ee: Privados:`
`04:20.25`	`elive-bot`	`\|ee: startlog [canal], endlog, autorizar <nick>, denegar <nick>, join <canal>, recordar <regexp> <frase>, part <canal>`
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`06:49.52`	`\|ee`	`o need install e17 on my debian`
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`08:49.52`	`K-Bay`	`Hey, I have two, rather simple questions. 1] What boot loader does Elive run on ? It's sort of cute ;-) 2] Is there some GUI way to define the keyboard bindings in E17 ? enlightenment_remote is too bare-bones, I suppose...`
`08:53.11`	`synd`	`K-Bay: its similar to morphix's`
`08:54.17`	`K-Bay`	`Well I've only used morhpix twice :D Ok, I'll find it out. But what about those keybinds ? That's difficult to find.`
`08:55.03`	`synd`	`no idea.`
`08:56.00`	`K-Bay`	`Sawfish has a nice GUI for that where you can assign keys to launch interpreted shell commands. I found it impossible on E17, at least yet.`
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`08:59.03`	`GhostCell`	`hi2`
`08:59.28`	`GhostCell`	`guys i need help, after installing, i cant get grub to work`
`09:10.45`	`wesker_`	`sabeis donde puedo encontrar 1 lista de los comandos para crear bins de teclado en enlightenment 17?`
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`09:40.22`	`GhostCell`	`no se`
`09:40.37`	`GhostCell`	`no blas spanyol`
`09:41.09`	`GhostCell`	`*no ablo`
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`10:06.44`	`Elive_user2`	`hi`
`10:06.59`	`Elive_user2`	`hola`
`10:07.06`	`linoleum`	`hello`
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`10:07.41`	`Elive_user2`	`hola, alguien sabe como montar mis particiones de Windows?`
`10:08.08`	`Elive_user2`	`osme body know how to mount Windows partitions?`
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`10:30.03`	`CGA`	`moo`
`10:30.15`	`ThanaZzzz`	`beee`
`10:31.27`	`CGA`	`ciao Thanatermesis`
`10:31.42`	`CGA`	`did you chose the new partitioner yet?`
`10:31.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`ciao CGA`
`10:31.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`you need a partitioner ?`
`10:32.09`	`CGA`	`nope`
`10:32.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`the partitioner are good for change any day, but before the next release ;)`
`10:32.13`	`CGA`	`for Elive 0.4`
`10:32.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`I need to package it`
`10:32.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`I like gparted`
`10:32.26`	`CGA`	`good`
`10:32.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed^ have packages for this, but Im wating he + for another test`
`10:32.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`if not, Im package gparted`
`10:32.55`	`CGA`	`good stuff`
`10:33.19`	`CGA`	`but in the past parted (and maybe gparted too) had some bugs, htey might be fixed now`
`10:33.51`	`CGA`	`anyway the important thing is that you offer a partitioner that can use many filesystems`
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`10:35.21`	`GhostCell`	`hi`
`10:35.24`	`GhostCell`	`any1 here?`
`10:35.33`	`CGA`	`hi`
`10:35.35`	`GhostCell`	`i need some help with installing`
`10:35.48`	`CGA`	`let's see if i can help you`
`10:35.55`	`GhostCell`	`my linux is gonna be installed on my logical drive`
`10:36.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`the past parted ? the partitioner used in Elive 0.3 ?`
`10:36.04`	`CGA`	`and`
`10:36.13`	`GhostCell`	`do i flag the logical or the primary drive as boot?`
`10:36.16`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, what?`
`10:37.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org/tmp/tmp/install-me.avi <--- look this CGA lol`
`10:37.19`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, one of the last version of parted`
`10:37.31`	`CGA`	`wow you made a video`
`10:37.33`	`CGA`	`that's good`
`10:38.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`its a little idea for elive 0.4 , for the persons to speak "how to install elive" ? lol`
`10:38.59`	`K-Bay`	`So anyone knows how to fancify GRUB like on elive and morphix ? :P`
`10:39.01`	`CGA`	`i think you should make it more complete`
`10:39.33`	`CGA`	`like opening the epanel and hit the button hard install`
`10:39.43`	`CGA`	`then show the whole process`
`10:39.47`	`GhostCel`	`any1?`
`10:40.10`	`CGA`	`GhostCel, i guess it depends if you have another OS in the primary partiotion`
`10:40.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`K-Bay what ?`
`10:40.43`	`K-Bay`	`Well to have this fancy animated menu at boot`
`10:40.45`	`CGA`	`GhostCel, if you don't have any other OSes then you can flag the Elive partition to boot`
`10:40.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`in the installed mode ?`
`10:41.06`	`GhostCell`	`i have 2 hard disk, winxp on my first, my 2nd hard disk has 4 partition, ntfs primary, ext3 logical+linux swap logical and fat32 logical`
`10:41.27`	`GhostCell`	`wat i want is to have grub load on my 2nd hard disk`
`10:41.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA you know the version of parted with the bug ?`
`10:41.50`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, no i don't remeber but it was more than 6 months ago`
`10:41.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:41.54`	`K-Bay`	`I've used splash screens, but this animation around menus is cool.`
`10:42.06`	`CGA`	`so i guess the fixed the bug`
`10:42.36`	`CGA`	`GhostCel, what do you actualy use to boot the 2 OS on different HD?`
`10:42.52`	`GhostCell`	`i change my bios`
`10:42.59`	`CGA`	`bios?`
`10:43.01`	`GhostCell`	`if i want xp, i boot on hard disk 1`
`10:43.07`	`GhostCell`	`if i wan elive i boot on hard disk 2`
`10:43.18`	`CGA`	`yes i know that but what program to boot?`
`10:43.23`	`CGA`	`where is it located?`
`10:43.27`	`GhostCell`	`hard disk 1 is using ntloader`
`10:43.37`	`GhostCell`	`hard disk 2 i wanna use grub i guess`
`10:43.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`K-Bay the bootsplash images is perfectly posible to use in the installed system, but not are implemented for this moments:w`
`10:44.16`	`CGA`	`GhostCel, why don't you use a single programm to chose everything from?`
`10:44.39`	`GhostCell`	`good idea, what n how?`
`10:44.45`	`GhostCell`	`im kinda new to this whole thing`
`10:44.46`	`CGA`	`you could use GRUB installed on 1st HD and chose windows , "linux" and elive from there`
`10:44.48`	`GhostCell`	`first time at it`
`10:44.58`	`CGA`	`i understand`
`10:45.06`	`CGA`	`i pass you a good article to read`
`10:45.06`	`GhostCell`	`if i do that, which partition do i have to flag as boot?`
`10:45.08`	`CGA`	`wait a sec`
`10:45.13`	`GhostCell`	`ok thanks`
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`10:45.49`	`Vernon`	`hi all`
`10:46.27`	`CGA`	`hi Vernon`
`10:47.01`	`CGA`	`GhostCel, so , here is an article on howto use GRUB for multiboot but first i need to understand a couple of things`
`10:47.06`	`CGA`	`http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4622`
`10:47.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`yop pr0t0cod7 , ta vu le *sheep? trop fort, il faut implementer`
`10:47.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`ça`
`10:47.29`	`pr0t0cod7`	`:)`
`10:47.37`	`pr0t0cod7`	`tu las laissé tourné?`
`10:47.38`	`GhostCell`	`shoot away`
`10:47.43`	`pr0t0cod7`	`tourner*`
`10:47.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui, c'est trop fort`
`10:47.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`et toi ?`
`10:47.55`	`CGA`	`ciao pr0t0cod7`
`10:48.00`	`CGA`	`GhostCel, coming`
`10:48.01`	`pr0t0cod7`	`oui jusqua ce que mon hd bug ce matin :/`
`10:48.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`il aura meme son ondroit... sur le paneaux de configuration de Elive ;)`
`10:48.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`hd bug ? o_O`
`10:48.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`questqui cest passé ?`
`10:48.23`	`pr0t0cod7`	`hi CGA`
`10:48.30`	`CGA`	`GhostCel, you installed linux on 2nd HD and installed GRUB in it?`
`10:48.51`	`GhostCell`	`i just used the installer that came with livecd`
`10:48.52`	`pr0t0cod7`	`bah des bruits de ressorts..de cliquetis..comme un hd qui va crasher d'ici quelques jours je sais pas... :/`
`10:48.54`	`Vernon`	`hello CGA`
`10:48.58`	`GhostCell`	`i think it installed grub`
`10:49.07`	`GhostCell`	`but i cant get it to find my linux to partition`
`10:49.28`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: par contre ca prends de la place dans /home/.sheep/`
`10:50.20`	`GhostCell`	`btw for some reason my first partition is hdd1 my next partition jumps to hdd5`
`10:50.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui, ça fait mal au coeur ça pr0t0cod7 .. mais a mon portable je lui avait achetée un hd, il fesait le meme truc, chaque 10 secondes il claque, je ne aimes pas du tout... mais ça fait 3 ans qui tourne comme ça et niquel lol`
`10:50.26`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: il m'avait deja crashé une fois il marchait plus du tout --> jai formaté bas niveau et il est reparti..mais la il refait des bruits bizzard`
`10:51.11`	`pr0t0cod7`	`c'est du ibm c'est garanti 3 ans je crois mais je sais plus ou est la facture :(`
`10:51.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui pr0t0cod7 , merci pour trouver le endroit, je ne le trouvait pas :) a parament c'est des videos pre-renderizée, tu peut le reproduire avec mplayer comme option (pour fullscreen + screensave)`
`10:51.20`	`pr0t0cod7`	`ça sent le backup en tout cas`
`10:51.27`	`pr0t0cod7`	`voui :)`
`10:51.29`	`Vernon`	`GhostCell: because you have only one primary part and the others are logical ones`
`10:51.36`	`GhostCell`	`ic`
`10:51.39`	`GhostCell`	`but is it ok?`
`10:51.47`	`GhostCell`	`any problem with that?`
`10:51.53`	`GhostCell`	`or is it ok?`
`10:52.23`	`Vernon`	`GhostCell: i'm entered here few lines ago, i haven't followed the discussion`
`10:52.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`Ibm ? moi javais u un probleme avec un disque ibm... alors tu sait ce que tu dois faire pr0t0cod7 ... copies de securitée ou/et disque dure nouveaux plus "dd if=hda of=hdb" ;) ça veut plus tes donnée que l'argent`
`10:52.54`	`pr0t0cod7`	`clair`
`10:53.00`	`Vernon`	`GhostCell: have you the whole hd for elive?`
`10:53.04`	`CGA`	`Vernon, the discussion hasn't go for much time`
`10:53.19`	`GhostCell`	`no just the logical part`
`10:53.43`	`Vernon`	`which is the trouble with grub?`
`10:53.46`	`CGA`	`Vernon, i'd be glad if you can help tooù`
`10:54.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`moi aussi je devrait faire des copies de securitée, on sait jamais... et un hd cassée ça arrive souvent dans nimporte quelle moment`
`10:54.38`	`GhostCell`	`lemme try to boot it up again, n see what the problem is`
`10:54.55`	`Vernon`	`GhostCell: WHAIT A MINUTE`
`10:55.03`	`GhostCell`	`k`
`10:55.04`	`Vernon`	`ops, forgive the capslock`
`10:55.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`'--==(~/.sheep)==--> du -hs .`
`10:55.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`611M wow pr0t0cod7`
`10:55.12`	`GhostCell`	`btw it takes grub 1-2 minutes to load`
`10:55.14`	`GhostCell`	`is that normal`
`10:55.26`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: oui le materiel informatique c'est plus ce que c'etait...quand je pense a mon vieux p100 qui fait ipcop il me lachera jammais lui..`
`10:55.32`	`GhostCell`	`booting from cd takes like 30 seconds`
`10:55.46`	`Vernon`	`GhostCell: 1-2 minutes to install, but not to load`
`10:55.53`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: moi 50M`
`10:56.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`tout a fait raison, maintenant cest que des plastiques...`
`10:56.03`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: surement a cause du hd :s`
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`10:56.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`:/`
`10:56.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`faut acheter un hd tout de suite... en tout cas ils sont pas trop chére pour la cantitée des gb`
`10:56.59`	`Vernon`	`GhostCell: gimme the exact error you get. i think i'll can help you`
`10:57.15`	`GhostCell`	`ok brb`
`10:57.21`	`GhostCell`	`i'll go see the error msg`
`10:57.23`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: pour portable c'est pas donné, jai pas un centimes xD`
`10:58.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe, bon.. c'est pas trop chere nonplus (au moins avant...) regarde ici pr0t0cod7 : http://www.shscomputer.be/prix.php?idcat=HD21/2`
`10:59.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`par 60 euros tu a deja 40 gb ;)`
`10:59.40`	`pr0t0cod7`	`oui ca va`
`10:59.59`	`pr0t0cod7`	`mais bon le mien il est garanti normalement`
`11:00.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`il a l'aire tres bien de prix se magasin a liege`
`11:00.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui mais... et tés données ?`
`11:00.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`backup backup backup, au moins de tes truc essentiels, ton travaille qoi`
`11:00.50`	`pr0t0cod7`	`bah jai un hd externe`
`11:00.54`	`pr0t0cod7`	`quand même ;)`
`11:01.09`	`CGA`	`Vernon, what i undestood about GhostCell situation is tha he has 2 HDs , the 2st with windows installed and the second with linux (but i don't know if is elive or other) ; he boots up from ntloader for windows and he didn't tell me if he boots with grub for the linux part, didn't understand other things`
`11:01.23`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: oui et ma gentoo :s`
`11:01.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`ben oui :/`
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`11:02.51`	`GhostCell`	`hi im back`
`11:02.55`	`GhostCell`	`ok 2 problems`
`11:02.59`	`Vernon`	`CGA: if he install grub onto mbr of hda, he'll have both`
`11:03.00`	`GhostCell`	`grub takes 2 minutes to load`
`11:03.16`	`GhostCell`	`n when i select linux, i get error 22`
`11:03.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 j'ai un probleme avec le repo, on me donne un access ssh pour upgrader le repo automatiquement en cas de urgence (par example le truc de entrance + xorg qui c0est passée...) mais il accepte pas de ssh car je ne ai pas une ip de alemagne... en tout cas http://thana... il contient mon ip... tu a une idée pour pouvoire faire ça ?`
`11:03.21`	`GhostCell`	`partition not found`
`11:03.26`	`CGA`	`Vernon, he didn't tell me about , i tried to understand that`
`11:03.38`	`GhostCell`	`btw my grub also has winxp in the list`
`11:03.45`	`CGA`	`but he didn't know himself`
`11:03.47`	`GhostCell`	`but when i choose that, ntldr missing`
`11:03.54`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: passer par quelqun qui est en allemagne`
`11:04.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`pas facile... je vais voire`
`11:04.15`	`pr0t0cod7`	`mouais :/`
`11:04.38`	`Vernon`	`GhostCell: first of all, you must try to resurrect the ntloader`
`11:04.58`	`GhostCell`	`xp runs fine using mbr on 1st hard disk`
`11:04.58`	`Vernon`	`GhostCell: where have u installed grub stage1? mbr?`
`11:05.20`	`GhostCell`	`i didnt install grub, the elive installer did that`
`11:05.24`	`GhostCell`	`so im not sure on the details`
`11:05.40`	`GhostCell`	`n its on hard disk 2`
`11:05.49`	`CGA`	`GhostCell, is elive the only linuxthat you have?`
`11:05.54`	`GhostCell`	`yea`
`11:05.57`	`CGA`	`ok`
`11:06.05`	`CGA`	`it was just my curiosity`
`11:06.18`	`GhostCell`	`elive is my first linux too`
`11:06.20`	`GhostCell`	`:p`
`11:06.23`	`CGA`	`i see`
`11:06.39`	`Vernon`	`GhostCell: ok. so, your winxp works fine booting from mbr of hda`
`11:06.47`	`GhostCell`	`yes`
`11:07.20`	`Vernon`	`now is good to know where your grub stages are`
`11:07.40`	`GhostCell`	`somewhere on hdb`
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`11:07.45`	`GhostCell`	`hda is untouched by linux`
`11:07.59`	`LordLamer`	`hello`
`11:08.08`	`GhostCell`	`hi`
`11:08.15`	`LordLamer`	`can i use deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive for debian sarge?`
`11:08.19`	`Vernon`	`i think you can install grub stage1 in /dev/hda`
`11:08.37`	`LordLamer`	`or do i need testing?`
`11:08.57`	`Vernon`	`GhostCell: we can try to recover the grub installation "ala grub", ok?`
`11:08.59`	`GhostCell`	`Vernon: hda is 1 primary partition 40 gigs ntfs`
`11:09.06`	`GhostCell`	`ok`
`11:09.36`	`Vernon`	`GhostCell: i mean /dev/hda as the mbr, not as the 1st slice hda1`
`11:10.15`	`GhostCell`	`ic`
`11:10.16`	`Vernon`	`when i say hda i'm talkin of the mbr`
`11:10.19`	`Vernon`	`ok`
`11:10.24`	`GhostCell`	`ok`
`11:10.36`	`GhostCell`	`before that, if we do this n scerw up, is it easy to undo?`
`11:11.39`	`Vernon`	`if we accidentaly f**kup the mbr, you can undo all by an "fdisk c: /mbr" on a win console`
`11:11.46`	`GhostCell`	`ok`
`11:11.52`	`Vernon`	`or a recovery disk (win98)`
`11:11.52`	`GhostCell`	`so i just need a winxp cd`
`11:11.57`	`GhostCell`	`to fix everythin rite?`
`11:12.09`	`Vernon`	`we'll change only the mbr`
`11:12.17`	`GhostCell`	`cool`
`11:12.21`	`GhostCell`	`so what do i do?`
`11:12.51`	`GhostCell`	`how do i make sure linux is installed on hdb btw, worried it might be corrupted or somethin`
`11:13.07`	`Vernon`	`gimme 1 minute, i'm searchin a sheet where i wrote the procedure`
`11:13.15`	`GhostCell`	`ok2`
`11:13.30`	`GhostCell`	`sorry if this is taking too much of ur time`
`11:14.07`	`Vernon`	`GhostCell: it's good for me. i'm learning english helpin you :D`
`11:14.10`	`CGA`	`GhostCell, don't worry this is normal in a GNU/Linux comunity`
`11:16.29`	`Vernon`	`GhostCell: the pc to revert is the one where u are irc?`
`11:16.42`	`Vernon`	`in irc*`
`11:17.23`	`Vernon`	`in other words, you must disconnect from this chan, during recover operations?`
`11:18.10`	`GhostCell`	`ok`
`11:18.18`	`GhostCell`	`ya`
`11:18.20`	`GhostCell`	`but`
`11:18.23`	`GhostCell`	`i got a laptop around`
`11:18.28`	`Vernon`	`ok`
`11:18.31`	`GhostCell`	`if u want i can use that to stay connected`
`11:18.49`	`Vernon`	`it's not necessary`
`11:18.53`	`Vernon`	`so`
`11:19.09`	`Vernon`	`1) obtain a grub console`
`11:19.49`	`Vernon`	`(booting with a grubdisk, or a grub in a live cd, entering 'c' for command shell)`
`11:20.13`	`GhostCell`	`i got the livecd`
`11:20.18`	`Vernon`	`2) in grub-console: find /boot/grub/stage1`
`11:20.53`	`Vernon`	`grub will write someting like (hd1,4) in this case`
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`11:21.22`	`Vernon`	`but if is differ, is not a problem`
`11:21.25`	`CGA`	`Vernon, isn't hda = hd0 ?`
`11:21.30`	`CGA`	`grub counts from 0`
`11:22.00`	`Vernon`	`yes hd0 is hda and hd0,0 is hda1`
`11:22.02`	`GhostCell`	`CGA: yea it is`
`11:22.25`	`CGA`	`ok`
`11:22.52`	`GhostCell`	`anything else i need?`
`11:22.56`	`GhostCell`	`besides my livecd?`
`11:23.03`	`CGA`	`good luck?`
`11:23.05`	`CGA`	`:P`
`11:23.14`	`CGA`	`j/k`
`11:23.25`	`Vernon`	`GhostCell: after grub write this partition names, you must know which is the one that you mount as a / in elive`
`11:23.54`	`GhostCell`	`u mean which partition is which?`
`11:23.55`	`Vernon`	`GhostCell: no. livecd is enought`
`11:24.55`	`Vernon`	`GhostCell: if grub output more of 1 name, you "choose" the one that is mounted as / (root) in elive, according to the elive fstab`
`11:25.36`	`GhostCell`	`dont really understand, but i got my laptop connected, so maybe we should just start`
`11:25.42`	`GhostCell`	`n i'll ask u if i get stuck`
`11:25.59`	`GhostCell`	`ok?`
`11:26.02`	`Vernon`	`ok, goto grubconsole`
`11:26.18`	`GhostCell`	`so reboot n boot from livecd?`
`11:26.19`	`Vernon`	`reset and goto grub console`
`11:26.28`	`GhostCell`	`ok`
`11:26.28`	`Vernon`	`yes`
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`11:26.50`	`GhostCell^M`	`its me here btw`
`11:27.01`	`CGA`	`we suspsected that`
`11:27.05`	`GhostCell^M`	`:p`
`11:27.10`	`Vernon`	`gh`
`11:27.22`	`CGA`	`and i guess M stands for mobile`
`11:27.35`	`synd`	`M stands for your Mother`
`11:27.50`	`GhostCell^M`	`ok im at livecd blue menu`
`11:27.52`	`Vernon`	`rotfl`
`11:27.53`	`elive-bot`	`Vernon: rotfl`
`11:27.58`	`GhostCell^M`	`wat do i do?`
`11:28.24`	`GhostCell^M`	`escape n start text mode interface?`
`11:28.30`	`Vernon`	`press 'c' key. are you now on the grub console?`
`11:28.38`	`Vernon`	`yes GhostCell^M`
`11:28.50`	`CGA`	`synd, that stands for Man you a re very funny`
`11:29.02`	`synd`	`Thanks.`
`11:29.07`	`GhostCell^M`	`ok`
`11:29.08`	`GhostCell^M`	`now i am`
`11:29.38`	`GhostCell^M`	`cga=completely goofy attitude ;P`
`11:29.41`	`Vernon`	`enter "find /boot/grub/stage1" in grubconsole, without doublequotas`
`11:29.50`	`CGA`	`:))`
`11:30.02`	`GhostCell^M`	`(hd1,4)`
`11:30.10`	`Vernon`	`fine`
`11:30.29`	`Vernon`	`enter "root (hd1,4)"`
`11:30.55`	`GhostCell^M`	`filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83`
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`11:31.03`	`Vernon`	`is it saying you "filesystem type bla bla"?`
`11:31.04`	`Vernon`	`ok`
`11:31.43`	`Vernon`	`now "setup (hd0)", cross your fingers and hit enter :)`
`11:32.09`	`CGA`	`and don't forget to lick your nose too`
`11:32.15`	`CGA`	`:P`
`11:32.24`	`Ghosty`	`a bunch of yes, succeeds n done`
`11:32.44`	`Ghosty`	`no blue screen yet :p`
`11:32.52`	`Vernon`	`if you don't know how, it is an ace freely tutorial`
`11:33.01`	`CGA`	`you'll forget very soon about BSOD`
`11:33.21`	`Ghosty`	`u expect me to forget 12 years of pain?`
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`11:33.33`	`CGA`	`yes`
`11:33.35`	`Ghosty`	`ok wat next`
`11:34.02`	`Vernon`	`simply reboot`
`11:34.08`	`Ghosty`	`bsod should be renamed pls find restart button`
`11:34.23`	`Ghosty`	`n boot from hard disk?`
`11:34.26`	`CGA`	`Vernon, doesn't he have to config grub.conf?`
`11:34.36`	`CGA`	`to add lines there`
`11:35.02`	`Vernon`	`CGA: not at the moment. grub has do that for you`
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`11:35.09`	`Vernon`	`if it has wrote..`
`11:35.20`	`CGA`	`Vernon, mmm i doubt about that`
`11:35.24`	`Ghosty`	`yay`
`11:35.25`	`Vernon`	`/boot/grub/menu.lst"...succeeded.`
`11:35.28`	`Ghosty`	`os list`
`11:35.39`	`CGA`	`ok`
`11:35.40`	`Ghosty`	`so which os do i try first?`
`11:35.50`	`CGA`	`winxp`
`11:35.52`	`Vernon`	`Ghosty: we'll add the winxp line after reboot`
`11:36.07`	`Vernon`	`now, the goal is to run linux`
`11:36.17`	`Ghosty`	`ok`
`11:36.25`	`Ghosty`	`so edit the command line?`
`11:36.27`	`Vernon`	`after we add the chainloader for loseXP`
`11:36.29`	`Ghosty`	`or has it done that for me?`
`11:36.48`	`Vernon`	`verify it rebooting the system`
`11:36.59`	`CGA`	`i'd check grub.conf first`
`11:37.04`	`Ghosty`	`so wat do i do now`
`11:37.11`	`Ghosty`	`im at the os list`
`11:37.24`	`Ghosty`	`n grub takes 2 seconds to load thank god`
`11:37.34`	`Vernon`	`Ghosty: boot linux`
`11:37.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61488&page=1&pp=10`
`11:37.44`	`Ghosty`	`hit enteR?`
`11:38.00`	`Vernon`	`if you are in the linux row, yes`
`11:38.03`	`Ghosty`	`hoho`
`11:38.15`	`Ghosty`	`its at the console now`
`11:38.27`	`Vernon`	`which console?`
`11:38.34`	`Vernon`	`grub or bash?`
`11:38.48`	`Ghosty`	`entering this n that`
`11:38.56`	`Ghosty`	`woot`
`11:39.31`	`Ghosty`	`do i configure my network with debconf?`
`11:39.45`	`Ghosty`	`it says its been configured using other tools`
`11:39.47`	`Vernon`	`not in this moment`
`11:39.51`	`Ghosty`	`ok2`
`11:40.31`	`Ghosty`	`ok im in`
`11:40.55`	`Vernon`	`Ghosty: obtain a root shell`
`11:41.39`	`Ghosty`	`a what`
`11:41.56`	`Ghosty`	`admin account?`
`11:42.02`	`Vernon`	`yes`
`11:42.10`	`CGA`	`root terminal/shell/console or whatever you prefer to call it`
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`11:42.24`	`Vernon`	`the admin is called "root" in serious systems :D`
`11:42.34`	`CGA`	`=)`
`11:43.03`	`Ghosty`	`well im logged into my account`
`11:43.16`	`Ghosty`	`and am staring at the desktop`
`11:43.20`	`Vernon`	`ok`
`11:43.28`	`Vernon`	`open an Xterm`
`11:43.36`	`Vernon`	`or an Eterm`
`11:44.08`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, why don't you release your animated bg to get-e.org? i mean the one of elive`
`11:44.24`	`CGA`	`e17`
`11:44.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`hhehe`
`11:44.36`	`Vernon`	`CGA: do you remember if the first user created in elive installation is on the wheel group?`
`11:44.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`11:44.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`posible`
`11:45.08`	`Ghosty`	`ok`
`11:45.26`	`Ghosty`	`im at the terminal`
`11:45.32`	`Vernon`	`Ghosty: now, enter "su" and hit enter`
`11:45.42`	`Vernon`	`then enter the root passwd`
`11:46.00`	`Ghosty`	`then?`
`11:46.03`	`Vernon`	`is it sending you to hell?`
`11:46.11`	`Ghosty`	`not yet`
`11:46.11`	`CGA`	`Vernon, i can't say that since i haven't installed Elive`
`11:46.17`	`Ghosty`	`just a third line`
`11:46.31`	`Vernon`	`or you have somting like bla/bla#?`
`11:46.42`	`Ghosty`	`. /home/ghostcell]$`
`11:46.57`	`Ghosty`	`root@elive/home/ghostcell]$`
`11:47.02`	`Vernon`	`rulz`
`11:47.04`	`Vernon`	`now`
`11:47.14`	`Ghosty`	`hit enter?`
`11:47.15`	`CGA`	`but he's u$er`
`11:47.37`	`Vernon`	`ok, now you are "god" in the system`
`11:47.41`	`Vernon`	`carry on`
`11:47.45`	`Ghosty`	`owh ic`
`11:47.50`	`Ghosty`	`muahahahhaa`
`11:47.52`	`CGA`	`or there's something wrong with $ #`
`11:48.11`	`Vernon`	`enter "cat /etc/grub/menu.lst"`
`11:48.41`	`Vernon`	`CGA: yes, it seems it don't use the '#' convention for root`
`11:49.02`	`Vernon`	`but the root@ clearily sings :D`
`11:49.12`	`Ghosty`	`no such file`
`11:49.21`	`Vernon`	`oops`
`11:49.25`	`Ghosty`	`wat does cat mean?`
`11:49.28`	`Ghosty`	`catalog?`
`11:49.28`	`Vernon`	`enter "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst"`
`11:49.35`	`Ghosty`	`izit like find?`
`11:49.47`	`Vernon`	`Ghosty: i don't know. is like "type" in dos`
`11:50.08`	`Ghosty`	`ic`
`11:50.12`	`Ghosty`	`chainloader +1`
`11:50.17`	`Vernon`	`it writes a file to stdout`
`11:50.26`	`Ghosty`	`ic2`
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`11:50.43`	`Vernon`	`the chainloader points to hd0,0?`
`11:50.49`	`Ghosty`	`yea`
`11:50.57`	`Ghosty`	`root (hd0,0)`
`11:51.40`	`Ghosty`	`i cant seem to open up the control panel`
`11:51.43`	`Vernon`	`Ghosty: "o la va o la spacca", reboot and try to boot winxp`
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`11:52.36`	`Vernon`	`Ghosty: do you mean "entangled" as a control panel? or a win-style controlpanel?`
`11:52.37`	`Ghosty`	`winxp is loading`
`11:52.52`	`Ghosty`	`config->elive->control panel`
`11:53.01`	`Ghosty`	`it doesnt run when i click it`
`11:53.08`	`Ghosty`	`ok xp's alive`
`11:53.17`	`Vernon`	`wait for the "welcome to hell message" and the restart and go back to linux`
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`11:53.53`	`Ghosty`	`im gonna need to search on how to read ntfs drives`
`11:53.58`	`Ghosty`	`my mp3's are all in there`
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`11:54.32`	`Vernon`	`Ghosty: don't try to use , from linux, ntfs slices in read-write mode`
`11:54.45`	`CGA`	`Vernon, sei italiano? se così è sappi che esiste anche #e.it`
`11:55.05`	`Vernon`	`CGA: si, sto qui' giusto per parlare in inglese`
`11:55.10`	`CGA`	`good`
`11:55.31`	`Vernon`	`CGA: where are you from?`
`11:55.37`	`CGA`	`cmq sia e.it non è molto frequentato e stiamo diffondendo la notizia del canale appena creato`
`11:55.38`	`* topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Is the world prepared for Elive? \|\| Open your mind with the elive-essence: "xmms http://64.236.34.97:80/stream/8022" \|\| "deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive" <-- repository \|\| www.elivecd.org * NEW DOMAIN ! *** \|\| your ask its very posible to are in "tuning, faq, bugs" sections to the www.elivecd.org please, look this before your question`
`11:55.39`	`CGA`	`MI`
`11:55.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`its good writed CGA ?`
`11:55.50`	`CGA`	`lemme check`
`11:56.01`	`Ghosty`	`do i do su again?`
`11:56.01`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: la section bug elle est pas en ligne encore xD`
`11:56.13`	`CGA`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:56.17`	`pr0t0cod7`	`lol`
`11:56.24`	`Vernon`	`Ghosty: what is the goal, now?`
`11:56.28`	`Ghosty`	`hrmmmm`
`11:56.38`	`Ghosty`	`setup sound, gfx, network`
`11:56.41`	`Ghosty`	`usual stuff`
`11:56.50`	`Ghosty`	`dont need to walk me through, just some pointers`
`11:57.12`	`Ghosty`	`*a->b`
`11:57.15`	`Ghosty`	`:p`
`11:57.39`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, You might find the answers to your question in the "tuning" , "faq" and "bugs" sections at www.elivecd.org , please take a look at these pages before you ask anything`
`11:57.42`	`Vernon`	`Ghosty: usually it works without postconf, except network`
`11:58.25`	`pr0t0cod7`	`CGA: a little long for the topic, don't you think :)`
`11:58.42`	`Vernon`	`CGA: sei uno sviluppatore di elive?`
`11:58.46`	`Ghosty`	`wats postconf?`
`11:58.49`	`* topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Is the world prepared for Elive? \|\| Open your mind with the elive-essence: "xmms http://64.236.34.97:80/stream/8022" \|\| "deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive" <-- repository \|\| www.elivecd.org * NEW DOMAIN ! *** \|\| You might find the answers to your question in the "tuning" and "faq" sections at www.elivecd.org please, take a look at these pages before you ask anything`
`11:58.59`	`*** mode/#elive [-o Thanatermesis] by Thanatermesis`
`11:59.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`thanks CGA`
`11:59.03`	`CGA`	`Vernon, no`
`11:59.05`	`Vernon`	`Ghosty: as post-install configuration`
`11:59.14`	`CGA`	`pr0t0cod7, a little long yes`
`11:59.16`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, np`
`11:59.45`	`CGA`	`Vernon, diciamo che faccio consulenza sull'inglese :P qua e la`
`12:00.14`	`Vernon`	`gh`
`12:04.13`	`Ghosty`	`i wached a demo of elive with video-like desktop background`
`12:04.19`	`Ghosty`	`how do i turn that on:p`
`12:04.23`	`CGA`	`ask Thanatermesis`
`12:04.31`	`CGA`	`i don't really know`
`12:04.37`	`Vernon`	`Ghosty: first of all, you must use E17`
`12:05.21`	`Vernon`	`then select the propre theme that waste cpu cicles in that way`
`12:05.31`	`Ghosty`	`im in e17`
`12:05.33`	`Ghosty`	`elive theme`
`12:06.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`Ghosty you ask for the 5 videos simultaneously ?`
`12:06.26`	`CGA`	`piesa che dice el e17 defualt`
`12:06.38`	`CGA`	`penso che dice el e17 defualt`
`12:06.58`	`CGA`	`default of elive not default theme`
`12:07.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, this is switched from the menu`
`12:09.43`	`Ghosty`	`no the moving background`
`12:10.05`	`Ghosty`	`video background anyways`
`12:10.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmmh`
`12:11.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`the "stars moving" background not are a video`
`12:11.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`are a compiled file in the Enlightenment libs`
`12:11.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`and are included IN the theme, not are a file, are a "lot of code and images"`
`12:12.01`	`Ghosty`	`where can i got more of these "backgrounds"`
`12:12.22`	`CGA`	`get-e.org there are some there`
`12:12.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`yea`
`12:13.16`	`Vernon_fn`	`Thanatermesis: can i use a screensaver as an animated background for E17?`
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`12:14.03`	`CGA`	`Vernon_fn, i guess not`
`12:15.20`	`Ghosty`	`weeeeeee`
`12:15.28`	`Ghosty`	`i love chicken wings`
`12:15.36`	`Ghosty`	`im in love with sofia lee`
`12:16.07`	`Vernon_fn`	`mmm, another q, how does it called the app-module who stores the reduced windows, in e16?`
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`12:20.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`Vernon_ iconbox`
`12:21.10`	`Vernon_`	`good`
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`12:26.30`	`roxville`	`apt x en es good morning or good day or good evening, depending on where you are!`
`12:26.59`	`CGA`	`good day roxville`
`12:27.03`	`CGA`	`:P`
`12:27.08`	`roxville`	`:)`
`12:27.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`good morning roxville`
`12:28.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/emotion-2.jpg`
`12:28.05`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, after i installed the 2.6.8 kernel...the whole thing blacked out`
`12:28.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es the whole thing blacked out`
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`12:28.41`	`roxville`	`or, i could not log back in`
`12:28.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville its posible to the FrameBuffer not are supported, waith the final of the boot of the machine or set "vga=normal" to the boot parameters`
`12:29.20`	`roxville`	`ahhh...`
`12:30.12`	`roxville`	`apt x en es well...i tried once before to install xorg when the same thing happened, and then it worked. but not this time lol`
`12:30.31`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, what is that emotion2 thing?`
`12:32.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA its for test, a video player with transparence tween another window-videos (in the same program)`
`12:32.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`its only eye-candy :)`
`12:32.39`	`roxville`	`apt x en es so i went and tried to install everything and and i mean everything!`
`12:32.51`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, ok thx`
`12:32.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`rookmoot apt-get dist-upgrade for pass to xorg`
`12:32.56`	`roxville`	`apt x en es just because i.... i don't know`
`12:34.36`	`roxville`	`apt x en es but i am getting very good at the installing procedure!`
`12:36.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe`
`12:37.04`	`roxville`	`apt x en es one guy said it was the first linux distro his wife liked instead of her winme`
`12:37.08`	`dcon`	`Thanatermesis, ya se puede instalar elive en el disco ?? =)`
`12:37.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user2 Elive_user Elive_user3 please change your nickname`
`12:37.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt changenickname is Elive_user Elive_user2 Elive_user3 please change your nickname, with this, another users can be posible to enter in the channel`
`12:37.46`	`apt`	`Thanatermesis: okay`
`12:37.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt changenickname`
`12:38.02`	`apt`	`changenickname is, like, Elive_user Elive_user2 Elive_user3 please change your nickname, with this, another users can be posible to enter in the channel`
`12:38.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt you are slow`
`12:38.06`	`apt`	`Thanatermesis: what are you talking about?`
`12:38.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`good :)`
`12:38.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt good bot ;)`
`12:38.16`	`apt`	`Thanatermesis: :)`
`12:38.29`	`pr0t0cod7`	`lol`
`12:38.31`	`roxville`	`lol`
`12:38.44`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt lol`
`12:38.46`	`apt`	`rumour has it, lol is stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead.`
`12:38.48`	`pr0t0cod7`	`xD`
`12:38.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt how old are you ?`
`12:39.01`	`apt`	`900 ... like Yoda ...`
`12:39.03`	`roxville`	`apt x en es I'll let you do that "his masters' voice" thing`
`12:39.15`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt who is Yoda?`
`12:39.20`	`apt`	`pr0t0cod7: what are you talking about?`
`12:39.26`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt :þ`
`12:39.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt yoda`
`12:39.30`	`apt`	`hmm... yoda is fat`
`12:39.33`	`pr0t0cod7`	`haha`
`12:39.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`12:39.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt fat`
`12:39.43`	`apt`	`But I'm on a diet!`
`12:39.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDD`
`12:39.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt windows`
`12:39.55`	`apt`	`somebody said windows was a 32 bit hack on a 16 bit operating system, originally designed for an 8 bit CPU, with a 4 bit system bus, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition... or the World of Warcraft bootloader, or the most important cllection of bugs`
`12:40.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`12:43.02`	`roxville`	`apt x en es Thanatermesis , so... did you say that if you do apt-get dist-upgrade now, it install xorg?`
`12:44.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`sure`
`12:45.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`in elive`
`12:45.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`without problems ;)`
`12:45.16`	`roxville`	`awesome!`
`12:45.41`	`tzulberti`	`thana: how can i change the theme of entrance`
`12:45.42`	`elive-bot`	`tzulberti: for change e17 themes, select one with the command "apt-cache search enlightenment 17 themes", install one and only copy with this line: "cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes" and it will work`
`12:45.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`12:46.10`	`tzulberti`	`thanks`
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`12:46.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`tzulberti mmmh, modify the files in /usr/share/entrance/themes, call another to "default", this is the fast way before wainting the Elpanel ;)`
`12:46.57`	`tzulberti`	`thanks`
`12:49.40`	`roxville`	`elpanel?`
`12:49.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`elpanel :)`
`12:50.03`	`roxville`	`el panelo?`
`12:50.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`the future panel of control for manage ALL system in elive systems ;:)`
`12:50.29`	`roxville`	`sounds too good to be true. is it?`
`12:50.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt elpanel`
`12:50.55`	`roxville`	`el panelo controlo`
`12:51.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt elpanel`
`12:51.24`	`apt`	`well, elpanel is the future panel of control of Elive, the actual state in: 0 % - completed`
`12:51.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehehe`
`12:51.42`	`roxville`	`i knew it...damn`
`12:52.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`I need to start to make this`
`12:52.14`	`roxville`	`maybe that would be something for handyande to work on`
`12:52.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`but is a looot of work :)`
`12:52.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`not really, its only a big work, not are difficult ;)`
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`12:54.08`	`roxville`	`you would be a hero for all mankind!`
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`12:54.20`	`roxville`	`at least for the ones who use linux`
`12:54.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`12:55.22`	`roxville`	`i'm not kidding!`
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`12:57.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`12:58.47`	`dcon`	`Thanatermesis, como hago para obtener el sistema base de una debian ?`
`12:59.10`	`dcon`	`....hola a todos XD`
`12:59.12`	`roxville`	`possibly, it would make the cars run on less gas/petrol too`
`13:00.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`dcon para obtener el sistema base de una debian ? o_O`
`13:01.05`	`roxville`	`apt x es en why`
`13:01.16`	`dcon`	`si...ya lo encontre, con el comando debootstrap`
`13:01.22`	`roxville`	`apt x es en como`
`13:02.26`	`sinplomo`	`hi:)`
`13:03.21`	`roxville`	`sinplomo, how are you today?`
`13:04.37`	`sinplomo`	`fine :)`
`13:04.42`	`sinplomo`	`you ?`
`13:04.53`	`roxville`	`ok, maybe it's time for me to boot from the cd, and start installing elive again...`
`13:05.10`	`roxville`	`i'm doing good, except for the fact..that i just wrote`
`13:05.14`	`roxville`	`:)`
`13:05.25`	`roxville`	`sigh`
`13:10.07`	`roxville`	`ok amigos, hasta later!`
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`13:20.59`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis ?`
`13:21.16`	`roxville`	`the elive cd sees and mounts my firewire drive`
`13:22.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`good :=`
`13:22.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`but in the installed system doesn't mount ?`
`13:24.25`	`roxville`	`no, exactly`
`13:24.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`its posible a simple problem of the modules mounted`
`13:24.50`	`roxville`	`how weird`
`13:24.59`	`roxville`	`yes`
`13:25.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`try this`
`13:25.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`lsmod \| awk '{print $1}' > list-file.txt`
`13:25.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`and save this file in your normall installation of elive, in any part, for after use`
`13:25.48`	`roxville`	`it seems that i have a firewire eth interface too, and i think it lods, even though i disabled it in base-config`
`13:26.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`eth1395 its normal`
`13:26.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`its firewire module`
`13:27.30`	`roxville`	`ok`
`13:29.40`	`eshep`	`apt x en es hey everybody, im back. and still no luck with the prism54 card sigh but i havn't given up hope.`
`13:29.41`	`roxville`	`ok...where is that file now? lol`
`13:31.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`eshep you have looked in google the way for configure it in "debian" ?`
`13:31.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`elive use a debian system`
`13:32.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville its a list of all modules loaded in the actual system (livecd), after, you run your normal system and with another script, load all this modules, and look if the firewire works ;)`
`13:33.23`	`eshep`	`Thanatermesis: ill look again, but i set it up the same way i had it setup on debian a few months ago`
`13:33.31`	`roxville`	`i understand, but where is the file now? so i can copy it? lol`
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`13:38.33`	`roxville`	`ok, i got it! saved the file in the right place`
`13:44.43`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, i would like to hear thoughts on progeny`
`13:44.50`	`roxville`	`maybe i should ask apt`
`13:44.55`	`roxville`	`apt progeny`
`13:44.59`	`apt`	`i guess progeny is Debian-based GNU/Linux distribution company specializing in custom packaging. http://www.progeny.com/, or see progeny installer`
`13:45.17`	`roxville`	`apt good dog`
`13:46.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`13:46.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville you are in your installed system ?`
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`13:47.22`	`roxville`	`no, i'm at 75%`
`13:47.50`	`roxville`	`and then i have to boot into ubuntu and change the menu.lst`
`13:49.27`	`roxville`	`because elive does not see ubuntu on my 2nd HD`
`13:49.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe`
`13:49.54`	`quamaretto`	`Anyone else had trouble putting /home on a separate partition?`
`13:50.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, you have this problem ?`
`13:50.17`	`quamaretto`	`When I try to log into an account, it kicks me back to the login screen`
`13:50.18`	`quamaretto`	`ls`
`13:50.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`quamaretto look your /etc/environment file, if you have a blank line, delete the blank line`
`13:51.11`	`quamaretto`	`Then retry?`
`13:51.31`	`CGA`	`quamaretto, the first empty line`
`13:51.38`	`quamaretto`	`Wouldn't have found THAT on my own...`
`13:51.49`	`quamaretto`	`Yup, blank line`
`13:52.37`	`CGA`	`the first`
`13:52.44`	`quamaretto`	`YES`
`13:53.06`	`CGA`	`ok :P`
`13:53.11`	`quamaretto`	`And now it works :D`
`13:53.22`	`roxville`	`wow!`
`13:53.22`	`CGA`	`good`
`13:53.39`	`quamaretto`	`Thank you all hugs everyone`
`13:53.45`	`roxville`	`so much pussy, and so little time`
`13:54.04`	`roxville`	`i mean, so much linux, and so little time`
`13:54.28`	`roxville`	`ok, i'll be back`
`13:54.43`	`quamaretto`	`Well, I can guess where _he_ is going`
`13:56.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`;)`
`13:56.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`upgrade your system, this "blank lines" is solved with a upgrade of entrance`
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`13:58.28`	`quamaretto`	`What's the easiest way to run dhclient on startup?`
`13:58.54`	`quamaretto`	`I would put it in the rcs myself if I didn't think some deity would get mad at me`
`13:59.34`	`quamaretto`	`XD Elive_user3 is me`
`13:59.39`	`Elive_user3`	`Whoops`
`14:01.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`14:02.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`quamaretto dpkg-reconfigure etherconf`
`14:02.51`	`quamaretto`	`I was going to try that after I finished upgrading`
`14:03.25`	`quamaretto`	`DSL seemed so fast until I went to college.`
`14:04.37`	`Vernon_`	`bye`
`14:05.23`	`eshep`	`Thanatermesis: elive isn't woody based is it?`
`14:05.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`no, in etch`
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`14:08.46`	`eshep`	`quamaretto: you think DSL is fast, give FTTH a try`
`14:10.36`	`quamaretto`	`FTTH?`
`14:11.07`	`eshep`	`fiber to the house`
`14:11.51`	`quamaretto`	`We'll never get that here`
`14:12.06`	`quamaretto`	`DSL costs us $50 because there are no major carriers around`
`14:12.30`	`eshep`	`Thanatermesis: i think i got something, what do you make of this.`
`14:12.31`	`eshep`	`Sep 10 09:43:30 getaround firmware.agent[9607]: /proc//class/firmware/0000:02:00.0/ does not exist`
`14:12.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`14:12.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`strange`
`14:13.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is the dir of the kernel messages`
`14:13.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`similar to the "kernel don't found a firmware in your device"`
`14:13.58`	`eshep`	`this is what i get from tail -f /var/log/messages after hotplugging the card`
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`14:18.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`:/`
`14:18.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`bad`
`14:22.30`	`eshep`	`nooooooooo, don't say bad`
`14:23.42`	`eshep`	`quamaretto: im paying $70 for the ftth, but man is it nice`
`14:25.10`	`quamaretto`	`We'll be able to move to the moon before they'll run that out to where we are`
`14:26.07`	`quamaretto`	`Unless the suburbanites mysteriously invade another 10 miles of Hamilton county`
`14:27.51`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, do i just copy the list-file into the /etc/modules?`
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`14:28.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`eshep its a simple debian, compile your kenrel and use with the same way to a debian`
`14:29.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`no roxville`
`14:29.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`only load modules`
`14:29.34`	`roxville`	`and, do i need the unionfs module now?`
`14:29.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`cat file \| awk '{print "modprobe "$1}' \| sh`
`14:29.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`you don't need, but are good, load all modules, only for test your firewire`
`14:30.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`after the reboot, all deleted`
`14:30.39`	`quamaretto`	`e17 runs like a mofo on my old emachine`
`14:30.41`	`quamaretto`	`:D`
`14:31.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`14:33.05`	`roxville`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:33.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`what is the name or your file ?`
`14:34.28`	`roxville`	`modules?`
`14:34.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`your file-list`
`14:34.54`	`roxville`	`ahhh cat modules yada yada?`
`14:35.03`	`eshep`	`Thanatermesis: what package do i need to apt-get for the kernel sources?`
`14:35.23`	`roxville`	`ok`
`14:35.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`eshep elive-kernel-compile`
`14:37.15`	`eshep`	`thanks`
`14:38.45`	`roxville`	`FATAL: module module not found`
`14:38.47`	`roxville`	`lol`
`14:39.32`	`roxville`	`that's all i got. did it do the rest, or shall i remove module module first?`
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`14:41.42`	`eshep`	`Thanatermesis: whats this?`
`14:41.47`	`eshep`	`scripts/kconfig/mconf arch/i386/Kconfig`
`14:41.47`	`eshep`	`can't find file arch/i386/Kconfig`
`14:41.47`	`eshep`	`make[1]: *** [menuconfig] Error 1`
`14:41.47`	`eshep`	`make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2`
`14:42.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`what you try ?`
`14:43.31`	`eshep`	`make menuconfig`
`14:43.33`	`eshep`	`not good`
`14:43.36`	`eshep`	`?`
`14:44.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt-get install libncurses5-dev`
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`14:44.48`	`eshep`	`libncurses5-dev is already the newest version.`
`14:46.13`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`se Thanatermesis`
`14:46.14`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`:)`
`14:46.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`se Rasko\|nikov`
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`14:55.28`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, it still doesn't wotk. can you type in the cat command again, and i can add it in my new list of useful elive commands?`
`14:55.46`	`roxville`	`sorry`
`14:56.13`	`sinplomo`	`ya no saludas Rasko\|nikov ?`
`14:56.26`	`quamaretto`	`Why after all these years`
`14:56.44`	`quamaretto`	`Does adduser think you will want to associate name and phone numbers with each user?`
`14:57.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville only load all modules manually then`
`14:58.16`	`roxville`	`ok? lol`
`14:58.23`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, que modifique /etc/modules`
`14:58.31`	`sinplomo`	`y ponga los modulos ahi ..`
`14:59.14`	`roxville`	`hmmm... where are the modules?...`
`14:59.21`	`CGA`	`behind there`
`15:00.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo no, es solo para hacer una prueba`
`15:01.17`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, hum, te empaqueto el driver de eagle usb ?`
`15:01.39`	`roxville`	`excuse me for being ignorant, but what is the command for loading a module?`
`15:01.48`	`sinplomo`	`roxville, modprobe module`
`15:02.50`	`roxville`	`sinplomo, thank you :)`
`15:03.04`	`sinplomo`	`:)`
`15:03.54`	`eshep`	`wow, lots of upgrades avilable`
`15:05.15`	`roxville`	`i have to go, my daughter (# yrs) is about to wreck the house`
`15:05.18`	`roxville`	`see you later`
`15:05.39`	`eshep`	`i feel your pain`
`15:05.51`	`roxvillechildcar`	`thanks eshep`
`15:06.05`	`eshep`	`:)`
`15:16.32`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`se sinplomo`
`15:16.33`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`:)`
`15:16.37`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`no te vi :p`
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`15:23.12`	`eshep`	`i guess ill try more tomorrow, goodnight all`
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`15:28.26`	`THEoracle`	`hello all`
`15:28.31`	`THEoracle`	`wassup`
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`15:48.12`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`sinplomo, tu sabes del gimp?`
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`16:05.22`	`THEoracle`	`Thanatermesis you were sayin my problems with cdrom is because there is no /dev/cdrom there by default.....correct?`
`16:05.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes`
`16:05.45`	`THEoracle`	`if so.....then how do i add?`
`16:05.59`	`THEoracle`	`sorry.....problems @ work when we were talkin yesterday`
`16:06.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom`
`16:06.17`	`THEoracle`	`?`
`16:06.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`if your /dev/hdc are your hd device`
`16:06.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`eject /dev/hdc`
`16:06.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`if your /dev/hdc are your CDROM device`
`16:07.24`	`THEoracle`	`unable to open /dev/hdc`
`16:09.59`	`THEoracle`	`/dev/hda...../dev/hdb...../dev/hdd.....all are physical drives`
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`16:10.56`	`THEoracle`	`i'm sorry to bother.....but i am lost.....lol`
`16:12.36`	`THEoracle`	`my fstab`
`16:12.42`	`THEoracle`	`/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 0 1`
`16:12.42`	`THEoracle`	`/dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0`
`16:12.42`	`THEoracle`	`proc /proc proc defaults 0 0`
`16:12.42`	`THEoracle`	`/dev/fd0 /floppy auto user,noauto 0 0`
`16:12.42`	`THEoracle`	`/dev/cdrom /cdrom auto ro,user,noauto 0 0`
`16:12.43`	`THEoracle`	`/dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3 ext3 noauto,users,exec 0 0`
`16:12.45`	`THEoracle`	`/dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 vfat noauto,users,exec,umask=000 0 0`
`16:12.47`	`THEoracle`	`/dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 vfat noauto,users,exec,umask=000 0 0`
`16:12.49`	`THEoracle`	`/dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 auto noauto,users,exec,umask=000 0 0`
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`16:18.30`	`THEoracle`	`Thanatermesis i made the symbolic link as you said.....cdrom ejected`
`16:18.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`good, you have fixed the problem`
`16:22.07`	`THEoracle`	`not exactly`
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`16:22.54`	`THEoracle`	`gmplayer gives me message can't read /dev/dvd`
`16:22.54`	`THEoracle`	`?`
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`16:23.54`	`THEoracle`	`Thanatermesis do i need to change the symbolic link to "ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd"?`
`16:24.21`	`THEoracle`	`if so.....how do i remove the link i just created?`
`16:24.38`	`CGA`	`rm -sf link`
`16:25.15`	`CGA`	`rm -sf /link /to/folder`
`16:25.25`	`CGA`	`or the other way round?`
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`16:44.28`	`THEoracle`	`CGA i created symbolic link by "ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom"`
`16:44.35`	`THEoracle`	`how do i remove it again?`
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`16:47.39`	`CGA`	`it should be rm /link`
`16:47.43`	`CGA`	`it is rm link`
`16:49.59`	`THEoracle`	`rm link /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom ?`
`16:53.58`	`CGA`	`only rm /path/to/link`
`16:56.01`	`THEoracle`	`i don't understand where the link was created.....can you tell me`
`16:56.02`	`THEoracle`	`?`
`16:56.08`	`THEoracle`	`sorry.....new to this`
`16:57.22`	`CGA`	`ln -option /target /link`
`16:57.37`	`CGA`	`so /dev/cdrom is the link`
`16:58.01`	`CGA`	`but why you remove that?`
`16:58.43`	`THEoracle`	`was gonna change to "ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd"`
`16:59.20`	`THEoracle`	`its actually a dvd drive......mplayer wants it that way i think.....not really all that sure tho`
`16:59.20`	`THEoracle`	`lol`
`16:59.35`	`CGA`	`ok`
`16:59.51`	`THEoracle`	`does that make sense @ all?`
`17:00.03`	`CGA`	`i guess yes since it's a dvd`
`17:00.31`	`THEoracle`	`maybe i AM learning sumthing.....lol`
`17:00.59`	`CGA`	`day by day ^^`
`17:01.38`	`THEoracle`	`damnit`
`17:01.43`	`CGA`	`what?`
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`17:01.58`	`THEoracle`	`"rm -s /dev/cdrom" ?`
`17:02.10`	`CGA`	`rm /deev/cdrom`
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`17:02.14`	`CGA`	`rm /dev/cdrom`
`17:02.18`	`THEoracle`	`oic`
`17:02.40`	`CGA`	`ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd`
`17:02.57`	`THEoracle`	`no such file or directory it tells me`
`17:02.58`	`THEoracle`	`lol`
`17:03.19`	`CGA`	`uhmm...`
`17:03.40`	`CGA`	`are you sure you used ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom ?`
`17:03.52`	`THEoracle`	`lemme make sure`
`17:04.52`	`THEoracle`	`to create the link i used "ls -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom"`
`17:05.12`	`CGA`	`ln not ls`
`17:05.20`	`CGA`	`you didn't create nuffin`
`17:05.38`	`CGA`	`now use ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd`
`17:05.46`	`THEoracle`	`sorry.....di use ln`
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`17:05.54`	`THEoracle`	`errr...did use ln`
`17:06.03`	`CGA`	`strange`
`17:06.06`	`THEoracle`	`i can eject the cdrom`
`17:06.09`	`THEoracle`	`i thought so`
`17:06.14`	`CGA`	`if it says that doesn't exist`
`17:06.51`	`THEoracle`	`it doesn't then.....pressing forward.....lolo`
`17:07.53`	`CGA`	`you lol too much man`
`17:08.02`	`THEoracle`	`sorry`
`17:08.31`	`CGA`	`don't be sorry , it's just for you`
`17:09.42`	`CGA`	`what is your problem? let's take this from the beginnging`
`17:10.29`	`THEoracle`	`thanks....ok`
`17:10.39`	`THEoracle`	`installed to hard drive`
`17:10.43`	`CGA`	`k`
`17:10.44`	`THEoracle`	`updated everything`
`17:10.48`	`CGA`	`k`
`17:10.55`	`THEoracle`	`except x`
`17:11.12`	`THEoracle`	`i have to optical drives`
`17:11.20`	`THEoracle`	`errrr 2 optical drive`
`17:11.23`	`CGA`	`k`
`17:11.35`	`THEoracle`	`one is an ide dvd rom`
`17:11.41`	`CGA`	`...`
`17:11.44`	`THEoracle`	`one is a usb cdrw`
`17:11.55`	`CGA`	`k`
`17:11.57`	`THEoracle`	`neither no workie`
`17:11.59`	`THEoracle`	`k`
`17:12.04`	`CGA`	`l`
`17:12.06`	`THEoracle`	`thats about it`
`17:12.17`	`THEoracle`	`no other problems`
`17:12.21`	`CGA`	`did they work on livecd?`
`17:12.40`	`THEoracle`	`didn't try the burner......but the ide one did`
`17:12.44`	`THEoracle`	`the dvd`
`17:12.48`	`CGA`	`i see`
`17:12.53`	`THEoracle`	`ran the install from there`
`17:13.18`	`CGA`	`did they work b4 update?`
`17:13.26`	`THEoracle`	`no`
`17:13.46`	`CGA`	`mm`
`17:14.10`	`THEoracle`	`but.... i never really tried to make them`
`17:14.22`	`roxville`	`ok, i did "dist-upgrade". is there anything else i need to do now?`
`17:14.27`	`THEoracle`	`just want to watch a movie and burn a disk now :-)`
`17:14.31`	`roxville`	`any symlinks or something?`
`17:14.41`	`CGA`	`i know THEoracle`
`17:14.59`	`CGA`	`i'm not so expert and i'm thinking what the problem could be`
`17:15.14`	`THEoracle`	`yeah`
`17:15.35`	`THEoracle`	`take your time......i'm here for another 7 hours`
`17:15.36`	`THEoracle`	`:-)`
`17:15.39`	`CGA`	`lol`
`17:15.48`	`CGA`	`i'm here for the next 10 mins`
`17:15.54`	`CGA`	`then go to dinner`
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`17:16.10`	`hkjames`	`hi`
`17:16.17`	`THEoracle`	`hmmmm......hungry too.....almost lunch time here`
`17:16.19`	`hkjames`	`anybody there`
`17:16.24`	`THEoracle`	`hello hkjames`
`17:16.30`	`CGA`	`1st check your /dev folder and see if the hdx are linked to anything`
`17:16.31`	`hkjames`	`hi`
`17:16.34`	`CGA`	`hi`
`17:17.23`	`hkjames`	`can I check something with u guys?`
`17:17.37`	`THEoracle`	`how do i check?`
`17:17.39`	`CGA`	`shoot`
`17:17.39`	`THEoracle`	`sure`
`17:17.46`	`CGA`	`go to the folder`
`17:17.51`	`THEoracle`	`done`
`17:18.00`	`hkjames`	`I am using elive live CD`
`17:18.03`	`CGA`	`and watch there if hdc is linked to anything`
`17:18.40`	`hkjames`	`I do some changes , how can I save those changes, so that next time no need to reset again`
`17:18.41`	`THEoracle`	`don't think so`
`17:19.21`	`hkjames`	`u mean can not save changes??`
`17:19.24`	`CGA`	`hkjames, i don't know`
`17:19.46`	`CGA`	`it should be possible due to unionfs but you better ask Thanatermesis`
`17:19.54`	`CGA`	`or someone who knows abt it`
`17:20.00`	`hkjames`	`anybody out there who can help me?`
`17:20.26`	`CGA`	`when i used elive and saved some data the next time they were gone`
`17:20.36`	`CGA`	`but i might have missed something`
`17:20.51`	`CGA`	`i ment from livecd`
`17:21.17`	`hkjames`	`oic`
`17:21.34`	`hkjames`	`can u able to find any solution for that?`
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`17:22.03`	`CGA`	`dunnov`
`17:22.24`	`shay`	`Thanatermesis, excelente trabajo :)`
`17:22.27`	`CGA`	`i'm not using elive`
`17:22.35`	`hkjames`	`oic`
`17:23.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`gracias shay`
`17:23.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`unionfs ?`
`17:24.14`	`CGA`	`not using that?`
`17:24.26`	`CGA`	`i red so in a review`
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`17:24.45`	`hkjames`	`ok`
`17:24.50`	`Enlighted`	`nasss`
`17:24.53`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, my mistake`
`17:26.24`	`THEoracle`	`i'll be back later.....gotta go`
`17:26.37`	`THEoracle`	`thanks for the help CGA`
`17:28.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, unionfs is used in the livecd mode`
`17:28.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es mistake`
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`17:30.14`	`roxville`	`wow, xorg makes a LOT of difference! good job!`
`17:32.35`	`roxville`	`there's a tiny blue border around the text in engage that i haven't noticed bedfore`
`17:34.49`	`roxville`	`apt x en es Hooray! Hooray! Hooray!`
`17:34.52`	`hkjames`	`hi anybody can help me how to change the elive settings ?`
`17:35.25`	`roxville`	`what would you like to change hkjames ?`
`17:36.05`	`roxville`	`most of the settings in e16 can be reached with the right mouse button`
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`17:37.35`	`hkjames`	`I have configured few things , which I wanted to save.`
`17:38.06`	`roxville`	`ahhh...wrong person for that, sorry`
`17:38.48`	`hkjames`	`any body can help me on this?`
`17:39.03`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis and sinplomo are probably the ppl to help you with that`
`17:39.21`	`roxville`	`but i think they are having dinner right now`
`17:39.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`you need to open the panel of control`
`17:39.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`and click in the penguin`
`17:40.00`	`CruX-`	`hi everybody`
`17:40.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`save in a stick`
`17:40.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`but Im not sure of this works, not are "good" tested`
`17:40.27`	`CruX-`	`just wanted to tell you i'm testing elive and it's great!`
`17:40.45`	`hkjames`	`can you help me in this?`
`17:40.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`but I not have any stick for test it... if any person look the problem and fix, this are upgraded for the next release`
`17:40.53`	`CruX-`	`and e17 just looks too good to be true :)`
`17:41.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`im not sure, I don't know how to works this, only know "are in the panel" and load from the boot parameters`
`17:41.55`	`roxville`	`maybe a morphix forum could help?`
`17:42.20`	`hkjames`	`crux, have u try this?`
`17:42.39`	`roxville`	`apt x en es Thanatermesis why does everything look better after the "dist-upgrade"?`
`17:43.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`hahaha`
`17:43.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes`
`17:43.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is a good way for repair the system or solve bugs`
`17:44.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`not need to touch any part, all parts are touched directly from the pacakges (all posibles and for the installed system)`
`17:44.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`only upgrade, and works :)`
`17:44.24`	`CruX-`	`hkjames, sorry but haven't tried that, just staring with elive`
`17:44.30`	`hkjames`	`any suggesting to help packages`
`17:44.47`	`roxville`	`yes! except, of course...my cdrom and FW drive... lol`
`17:45.13`	`hkjames`	`can download from net using at-get??`
`17:45.26`	`roxville`	`i changed /dev/cdrom to /dev/hdc in fstab`
`17:45.45`	`roxville`	`yes hkjames , on an installed system`
`17:46.01`	`hkjames`	`no , I mean using elive?`
`17:46.25`	`hkjames`	`from elive can able to install the packages for save the settings locally`
`17:49.51`	`hkjames`	`Thanatermesis can u pls explain me in detail?`
`17:51.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe`
`17:52.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`hkjames I don't have any details, Im only know this`
`17:52.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`for save, click in the panel of control`
`17:52.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`in the penguin`
`17:52.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`but aparently this not works, Im not sure, I not have tested`
`17:53.18`	`hkjames`	`which panal of control?`
`17:53.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`the last icon in your dock`
`17:55.38`	`hkjames`	`you mean elive control panel?`
`17:59.44`	`hkjames`	`ok guys c u again..got to go`
`18:00.01`	`hkjames`	`thans for ur information`
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`18:34.40`	`da_bon_bon`	`hi all`
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`19:00.27`	`THEoracle`	`hello all`
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`19:16.15`	`CGA`	`hi THEoracle did you solve your problem?`
`19:16.43`	`THEoracle`	`was just about to start @ it again`
`19:16.55`	`THEoracle`	`went and had sum lunch`
`19:17.01`	`CGA`	`i see`
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`19:52.55`	`felix`	`hmmm`
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`20:21.00`	`azzazus`	`how do i use the gtk engines?`
`20:23.47`	`roxville`	`azzazus, you can install via synaptic, and then choose via right-click ---> config in e16`
`20:24.31`	`roxville`	`in e17 i have to log in again to remember lol`
`20:24.36`	`azzazus`	`roxville, thanks`
`20:24.48`	`azzazus`	`roxville, what about in e17?`
`20:24.49`	`roxville`	`np dude :)`
`20:25.37`	`roxville`	`i remember i got it to work in e17 too, but i don't remember how right now`
`20:26.00`	`roxville`	`i just reisntalled the whole bolony again. about the 10th time`
`20:27.41`	`roxville`	`hold, lemme log in to e17 and see if i can figure it out`
`20:27.48`	`roxville`	`brb`
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`20:31.00`	`roxville`	`ok`
`20:31.38`	`roxville`	`it seems (right now) that the themes in e17 are ruled by the "themes" option`
`20:31.48`	`roxville`	`azzazus, are you with me?`
`20:32.16`	`roxville`	`you have installed your elive, right?`
`20:34.22`	`azzazus`	`roxville, yep`
`20:34.51`	`roxville`	`ok, and you have tried the two themes? have you tried to install any other themes?`
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`20:36.00`	`azzazus`	`roxville, i've got milky`
`20:36.14`	`roxville`	`and that works?`
`20:36.23`	`roxville`	`you can select it and all?`
`20:37.01`	`azzazus`	`roxville, yep`
`20:37.18`	`roxville`	`any others, that you installed and can not choose in the "themes" tab?`
`20:37.32`	`roxville`	`or can not see`
`20:39.06`	`azzazus`	`roxville, nope`
`20:42.19`	`roxville`	`ok`
`20:43.04`	`roxville`	`i like "detour", it is kinda old, but still one of the most popular and most used themes for e17`
`20:43.19`	`roxville`	`you can find it in synaptic`
`20:44.25`	`roxville`	`if it does not show up in e17 you have to find the theme folder in /usr/share and copy it to /home/youname/.e/e/themes`
`20:44.52`	`roxville`	`sorry man, just got company so i gotta go`
`20:45.03`	`roxville`	`good luck and happy hunting!`
`20:45.32`	`azzazus`	`bye`
`20:46.02`	`azzazus`	`anone know where the qt or gtk dir are?`
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`20:52.32`	`Elive_user2`	`elive is amazing! No crash until now! Identifies all of my hardware! Great work!`
`20:54.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
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`21:14.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu ping`
`21:15.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) were not met.`
`21:15.13`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: estoy bajando Elive :-D`
`21:15.14`	`damosu`	`Thanatermesis, pong`
`21:15.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`que coño paquete es ese ?`
`21:15.17`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: con cu�nta ram corre?`
`21:15.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix :)`
`21:15.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix 64`
`21:15.33`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: y anda ok, con 64mb de ram?`
`21:15.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`hombre... "anda"`
`21:15.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`21:15.43`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: al menos para poner una terminal y navegador de texto, etc?`
`21:15.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`knoppix o ubuntu necesitan almenos 256`
`21:16.05`	`sinplomo`	`hi`
`21:16.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, pero si tienes swap, si no tienes swap, "solo tiene" para lanzar el sistema grafico, sin aplicaciones`
`21:16.20`	`azzazus`	`i'm trying to configure pango, and then i get this error: "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check`
`21:16.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`alguien sabe que paquete necesito para instalar eso ?`
`21:16.29`	`azzazus`	`what's the problem`
`21:16.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) were not met.`
`21:16.34`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, intente correr elive en un PII 450 Mhz con 64 MB`
`21:16.40`	`sinplomo`	`y me dijo que necesitaba mas ram`
`21:16.41`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`21:16.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus actualize libpango`
`21:17.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo pues yo lo llegué a lanzar con 64`
`21:17.19`	`azzazus`	`Thanatermesis: what's that?`
`21:17.43`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: ya veremos... mi notebook tiene 64mb de ram y necesito una live, porque tiene WinXP y no lo puedo sacar (el p... celular de mi mujer solo sincroniza y baja fotos con Win)`
`21:17.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus what are "configure" ?`
`21:18.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`21:18.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix bueno, si tienes una swap vas bien, pero un poco justo... lo mejor seria una DSL o algo asi`
`21:18.21`	`azzazus`	`Thanatermesis: what do you mean by 'actualize'`
`21:18.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`o... tombrst ;)`
`21:18.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus upgrade`
`21:18.41`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: no tengo swap`
`21:18.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`:/`
`21:18.56`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: salvo que me deje poner una en un fichero en el win`
`21:19.07`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: pero tampoco recuerdo si instal� con NTFS o no ese disco`
`21:19.19`	`azzazus`	`Thanatermesis: no upgrade option in synaptic`
`21:19.35`	`sinplomo`	`update`
`21:20.34`	`azzazus`	`Thanatermesis: i think it's updated`
`21:20.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus what are your problem ?`
`21:21.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix pues si instalaste el ntfs ya... :/`
`21:21.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, winxp en un 450 Mhz con 64 Mb de ram felix ? debes de estar bromeando, no?`
`21:21.41`	`azzazus`	`i'm trying to configure pango, and then i get this error: "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check`
`21:21.58`	`Elive_user2`	`hello`
`21:22.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus what are "configure" for you ?`
`21:23.09`	`azzazus`	`Thanatermesis: ./configure part of the processs of installing a source package`
`21:23.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`21:23.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`a source package ?`
`21:23.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`installing ?`
`21:23.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x es en que estas haciendo ?`
`21:24.27`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: no`
`21:24.38`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: est� funcionando bien :) s�lo para bajar fotos del celular`
`21:25.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix pero... yo lo probé eso una vez y... ES PARA MORIRSE! si te digo que me tardaba de 30 en 30 minutos para ir haciendo las cosas...`
`21:25.09`	`azzazus`	`eshep: do you know why i'm getting this error: "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check`
`21:25.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`y cedega ?`
`21:25.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`alguien que me puede explicar lo que este personaje pretende hacer? porque yo no me entero de nada`
`21:25.40`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: no... eso no es verdad`
`21:25.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno... pues 40`
`21:25.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`21:25.57`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: bootea bastante r�pido y anda no demasiado mal. o sea, es suficientemente r�pido`
`21:26.22`	`Elive_user2`	`can anyone tell me why my hd install doesn't remember any sttings when I reboot?`
`21:26.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`claro que bootea rapido, es un timo, lo primero que te carga es el escritorio y luego los servicios, de alli su propaganda de "es el mas rapido en arrancar" xDDD`
`21:26.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`se han pasado 1 año cambiando la programacion para que sea lo primero que arranque felix xD`
`21:27.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user2 any settings ?`
`21:27.22`	`Elive_user2`	`settings?`
`21:29.08`	`Elive_user2`	`doesn't remember skin defaults, desktop theme, alsaconf ...`
`21:31.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user2 in your installed system ?`
`21:32.21`	`Elive_user2`	`yes, hdinstall`
`21:33.19`	`sinplomo`	`joder`
`21:33.24`	`sinplomo`	`puto OOo2`
`21:33.24`	`Elive_user2`	`<-- same alsaconf person as yesterday`
`21:33.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, you have the system installed, and you use it, with a normal user, change settings, for example the skin of xmms... and after your reboot, this are lost ?`
`21:34.10`	`Elive_user2`	`yes, as is the alsaconf run as root`
`21:35.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im don't know how to posible this`
`21:35.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`my Elive installation works perfectly and remember all`
`21:35.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`but Im not using e17, not posible to speak for you if e17 works good or not`
`21:36.36`	`Elive_user2`	`ok, i have bee using e17 - if I run alsaconf from e16 does that make a difference?`
`21:38.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`no, no alsaconf from e16, this not make any change`
`21:39.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im speak only for the configuration of e17`
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`21:41.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im really don't know how to posible to not save your configurations...`
`21:41.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`what filesystem you are using ?`
`21:42.22`	`Elive_user2`	`ext3 the installer only gave ext2 and 3 as options`
`21:43.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`your disk are "blank" ? for tests etc.. ?`
`21:44.24`	`Elive_user2`	`I don't understand`
`21:44.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`you can give me a ssh access ?`
`21:45.13`	`Elive_user2`	`how?`
`21:45.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`give me your root password...`
`21:45.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`wait`
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`21:56.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok Elive_user2`
`21:56.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im back`
`21:56.34`	`Elive_user2`	`ok`
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`21:58.48`	`Elive_user2`	`how to send securely?`
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`22:03.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmh`
`22:03.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user2 , enter in #test4`
`22:04.36`	`Elive_user2`	`#test4`
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`22:11.10`	`azzazus`	`how do i find glib-2.0.pc?`
`22:12.34`	`sinplomo`	`searching it`
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`22:22.29`	`azzazus`	`hello, while trying to ./configure pango, an error appeared saying it foung the wrong version of glib, how do i fix that?`
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`22:29.25`	`Elive_user3`	`hello`
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`23:08.20`	`sHR00m`	`moin`
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`23:26.36`	`_H_`	`jejeje, ta guapo el video thanatermesis :))))`
`23:35.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`jeje, veo que te gusta _H_ ;) pero es solo un test, el de verdad si que sera wapo ;)`
`23:35.58`	`_H_`	`pos es dificil mejorarlo`
`23:36.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`jejeje, no creo, ya veras el que haga (cuando lo haga ;) )`
`23:36.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`tengo hasta la musica y todo.. ;)`
`23:36.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`esta es una cancion de paul oakenfold, no puedo meterla xD`
`23:37.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmh, voy a ver que tal queda con la que me han ofrecido... :)`
`23:45.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`joder!`
`23:45.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`si es que queda hasta mejor y todo con la musica que hizo el tipo este que el mismo paul oakenfold`
`23:45.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`la hostia`
`23:47.01`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: necesito m�s ancho de banda YA :)`
`23:47.06`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: 26% del Elive 0.3`
`23:47.15`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: cuando termine de bajar ir�s por la 9.3`
`23:47.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`jajajaja`
`23:47.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`bah, mañana estará lista ;)`
`23:47.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix viste el video ?`
`23:48.18`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: "Install Me" o hubo otro?`
`23:48.20`	`felix`	`lasturl`
`23:48.21`	`elive-bot`	`felix: http://www.progeny.com/,`
`23:48.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`no`
`23:48.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`espera`
`23:48.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://www.elive.xasein.com/screenshots/video3.avi <--- felix`
`23:48.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`echale un vistazo ;)`
`23:48.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`es mi primera prueba con cinelerra`
`23:53.56`	`felix`	`hmmm`
`23:54.03`	`felix`	`s� que copio rapido esto...`
`23:54.08`	`felix`	`QUIERO TENER UN SERVER EN USA`
`23:54.10`	`felix`	`menopause-migracion.tar.gz 100% 720KB 720.3KB/s 00:00`
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`23:55.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`juas`
`23:55.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix ya viste el video ?`
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