| 00:12.54 | Thanatermesis | apt nfs |
| 00:12.57 | apt | Try using -o nolock,soft (soft will help stop the error cascades, especially over wireless) |
| 00:13.11 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 00:13.25 | pr0t0cod7 | mouhahha |
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| 00:57.57 | Thanatermesis | rae inopia |
| 00:58.19 | elive-bot | Thanatermesis: |
| 00:58.20 | elive-bot | Thanatermesis: inopia. |
| 00:58.23 | elive-bot | Thanatermesis: (Del lat. inopia). |
| 00:58.24 | elive-bot | Thanatermesis: 1. f. p. us. Indigencia, pobreza, escasez. |
| 00:58.24 | elive-bot | Thanatermesis: estar en la ~. |
| 00:58.24 | elive-bot | Thanatermesis: 1. fr. coloq. Ignorar algo que otros conocen, no haberse |
| 00:58.24 | elive-bot | Thanatermesis: enterado de ello. |
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| 01:27.19 | Thanatermesis | apt ht |
| 01:27.21 | apt | somebody said ht was Haiti. HyperThreading, a technology from intel included in processors from the P4 3.05 GHz, that emulates two processors in a single cpu machine |
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| 01:42.25 | pr0t0cod7 | apt cyrix |
| 01:42.27 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, cyrix is a make of cheap proccesors, for those who can't afford Intel or AMD. The current Cyrix MIIs are slower then their Intel and AMD counterparts. See also Rise.. Now aquired by via, the cyrix processor no longer exists |
| 01:44.29 | pr0t0cod7 | apt ping |
| 01:44.31 | apt | pong |
| 01:44.32 | pr0t0cod7 | lol |
| 01:44.33 | Thanatermesis | xDDDDD |
| 01:44.38 | Thanatermesis | trop fort |
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| 02:42.31 | felix | Thanatermesis: còmo va? |
| 02:42.44 | felix | good evening! |
| 02:43.32 | Thanatermesis | buenas felix |
| 02:43.47 | Thanatermesis | bastante bien, aqui haciendo una copia de seguridad del sistema que hasta ahora no tenia ninguna xD |
| 02:44.13 | Thanatermesis | luego hare una limpila con /dev/zero del 2º disco y lo meteré en la otra maquina para que mi novia pueda tener un sistema para ella |
| 02:44.13 | felix | Thanatermesis: jejejeje |
| 02:44.26 | felix | Thanatermesis: pollerudo |
| 02:44.37 | Thanatermesis | me pidio que le enseñase informatica... que se lo piden en la escuela y tan un par de conocimientos previos... (word y esas mierdas) |
| 02:44.53 | Thanatermesis | me pide windows... que le piden windows y que necesita aprender windows... |
| 02:45.04 | Thanatermesis | pero yo le digo que me niego ROTUNDAMENTE a meterle un windows |
| 02:45.09 | felix | Thanatermesis: "escuela"? què edad tiene? ROBACUNAS! |
| 02:45.23 | Thanatermesis | no tiene ni idea de informatica, nisiquiera tiene la mas idea de que es Elive o de lo que hago xD |
| 02:45.34 | Thanatermesis | xDDD tiene 3 años menos que yo, 22 |
| 02:46.12 | felix | Thanatermesis: y està en la "escuela"? |
| 02:48.18 | Thanatermesis | si |
| 02:48.24 | Thanatermesis | aqui se estudia hasta los 25 años |
| 02:48.31 | Thanatermesis | todo el mundo hace un estudio tras de otro... xD |
| 02:48.37 | *** mode/#elive [-o Thanatermesis] by Thanatermesis |
| 02:48.49 | Thanatermesis | no es como en españa, que la gente se va a trabajar con 16 xD |
| 02:51.26 | felix | Thanatermesis: jjejejejeje |
| 02:53.42 | Thanatermesis | viste la primera prueba de Elpanel ? |
| 02:53.55 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/nada-borrar3.jpg |
| 02:54.11 | Thanatermesis | es muy feo, lo se, pero funciona, se lanza y los iconos lanzan cosas :) |
| 02:56.20 | Thanatermesis | quiere aprender informatica ? yo le daré Elive... a ver luego como es el cambio de "linux -> windows" ya que todo el mundo lo a sentido al revés.. xD a ver como es para la gente adaptarse a un sistema lleno de bugs xDDD |
| 02:56.40 | felix | Thanatermesis: che, estoy usando windows y no va tan mal |
| 02:56.50 | felix | Thanatermesis: claro que me dieron un pentium IV con 3ghz y 1gb de ram |
| 02:56.53 | felix | Thanatermesis: :=D |
| 02:57.07 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 02:57.16 | Thanatermesis | ya bueno... es que es todo en general lo que no me gusta |
| 02:58.29 | Thanatermesis | la forma de instalar las cosas, entrar en internet y encontrarte todo lleno de popus y alertas de virus, que no puedas ponerte a trabajar "seriamente" con 5 o 6 programas abiertos sin que se te casque todo o vengas errores de ninguna parte... luego dejando aparte lo que consume y carga la ram y todo eso.... los programas son buenos, pero el sistema es una mierda... olvidate de los superprogramas de audio y esas cosas y mira como es un w |
| 02:58.30 | Thanatermesis | indows pelado xD |
| 02:59.13 | felix | Thanatermesis: insisto, mi windows anda bien |
| 02:59.27 | Thanatermesis | o la instalacion de drivers, que te dice que si no a superado la prueba de calidad y noseque mierdas mas... yo por ejemplo cada vez que arranco el windows que tengo por alli tirado, me dice que me que a habido un problema cargando el hardware o un driver... mientras que todo va bien, y ese mensaje de mierda me lo tengo que comer siempre |
| 02:59.37 | felix | Thanatermesis: pero tengo SEMEJANTE CPU ... Pentium IV de 3ghz, seguro que trae hyperthreading. 64bits, me aparecen 2 cepus |
| 02:59.38 | Thanatermesis | o el puto mensaje de "actualizaciones de windows" dar un paseo por windows... etc |
| 03:00.33 | Thanatermesis | que abres un explorer y te entre en la pagina de windows, que abras EL PANEL DE CONTROL de windows y solo veas publicidad... "compra musica online", "encuentra la persona de tu vida", "encuentra todo lo que necesites en internet"... todos apuntando a windows, msn y msn search... |
| 03:00.41 | felix | Se ha descubierto una vulnerabilidad en XFree86 que potencialmente |
| 03:00.42 | felix | puede ser explotada por usuarios locales maliciosos para realizar |
| 03:00.42 | felix | escaladas de privilegios. |
| 03:00.44 | Thanatermesis | y eso EN EL PANEL DE CONTROL |
| 03:00.51 | Thanatermesis | no me extraña que haya monopolio |
| 03:01.14 | felix | XFree86 pixmap Integer Overflows May Let Local Users Gain Elevated Privileges |
| 03:01.14 | felix | http://securitytracker.com/alerts/2005/Sep/1014887.html |
| 03:01.14 | felix | exploitable overflow in pixmap creation |
| 03:01.14 | felix | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=594 |
| 03:01.16 | Thanatermesis | lo que pasa es que no lo vemos, porque no leemos esas cosas... eso lo hacen solo los que no tienen ni idea de informatica y se paran a leer para "entender el sistema" |
| 03:01.35 | Thanatermesis | xfree esta muerto xD |
| 03:02.03 | Thanatermesis | felix no nos pongamos a contar las vulnerabilidades de windows... xD |
| 03:05.00 | tzulberti | thana: por lo de distrowatch.org |
| 03:05.15 | tzulberti | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:05.27 | tzulberti | distro@distrowatch.com |
| 03:06.06 | tzulberti | ya acutalizastes los sources? |
| 03:08.24 | Thanatermesis | si tzulberti |
| 03:08.27 | Thanatermesis | ya estan actualizadas |
| 03:08.39 | tzulberti | gracias |
| 03:09.00 | Thanatermesis | dime que tal te funcionará ahora :) |
| 03:09.12 | tzulberti | ahora estoy en el debian.... |
| 03:09.20 | Thanatermesis | por cierto tzulberti , hay premio para el que consiga colgar el evidence y que envie el fichero "core" ;) |
| 03:09.39 | tzulberti | veo que puedo hacer.... |
| 03:11.03 | felix | buenas noches |
| 03:11.08 | Thanatermesis | ya te marchas felix ? |
| 03:11.19 | felix | si |
| 03:11.22 | felix | tengoque descansar |
| 03:11.28 | Thanatermesis | vaya pues... bueno, buenas noches |
| 03:11.29 | felix | hoy mediagnosticaron queratitis y conjuntivitis |
| 03:11.35 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 03:11.39 | Thanatermesis | y eso que cosas son ? |
| 03:11.40 | felix | no tengo lentes de contacto puestas, tengoq ue ir a ponerme gotas y un gel en los ojos |
| 03:11.49 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh |
| 03:11.51 | felix | Thanatermesis: no se, pero me arde y me duele un monton elojo derecho |
| 03:11.54 | felix | me voya dormir mejor |
| 03:11.56 | Thanatermesis | :/ |
| 03:11.56 | felix | adios |
| 03:11.58 | Thanatermesis | felix |
| 03:12.01 | Thanatermesis | colirio ;) |
| 03:12.06 | felix | jeje |
| 03:12.06 | Thanatermesis | buenas noches |
| 03:12.11 | felix | Thanatermesis: compre hoy, pero nome hizo nada |
| 03:12.18 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 03:24.02 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo ping |
| 03:35.24 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo ping |
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| 04:09.38 | consultant | Hey |
| 04:09.48 | consultant | Does Elive have a goals list or anything of the like? |
| 04:11.33 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es Does Elive have a goals list or anything of the like? |
| 04:11.49 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, no |
| 04:12.24 | consultant | Huh? |
| 04:12.46 | Thanatermesis | Im not understand.. what "list of goals" ? |
| 04:12.59 | consultant | Such as things that it wishes to accomplish |
| 04:13.35 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, "no limited goal" ? :) |
| 04:13.46 | Thanatermesis | I like to make to Elive to a complete SO based in E environment |
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| 04:14.09 | Thanatermesis | not only a beautifull desktop but a complete SO for any purpose and manage the SO directly from the desktop |
| 04:14.54 | consultant | Thanatermesis, ¿Usted habla solamente un poco inglés? |
| 04:15.22 | Thanatermesis | hablo mejor el español que el ingles :) |
| 04:15.26 | consultant | ¿Cuál es SO? |
| 04:15.32 | Thanatermesis | apt so |
| 04:15.34 | apt | so what? |
| 04:15.36 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 04:15.38 | Thanatermesis | apt SO |
| 04:15.39 | apt | so what? |
| 04:15.47 | Thanatermesis | apt OS |
| 04:15.48 | apt | well, os is (Operating System) The program that allows you to access the basic functions of your computer. It is the minimum software required to run a program. The best one by far is the MacOS. |
| 04:15.54 | Thanatermesis | ah, OS :) |
| 04:15.59 | Thanatermesis | SO -> spanish |
| 04:16.28 | consultant | ¿Oh, veo, sistema operativo? |
| 04:16.31 | Thanatermesis | si |
| 04:16.42 | consultant | Si habla espanol, pero no mucho :( |
| 04:16.53 | Thanatermesis | its good |
| 04:17.06 | consultant | Oops, hora para mí de ir... apesadumbrado, sea detrás más adelante |
| 04:18.24 | Thanatermesis | hehe, babelfish transaltion ? |
| 04:18.36 | Thanatermesis | ok, good night |
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| 05:04.39 | KaKaRoTo-KS | good night Thanatermesis |
| 05:05.38 | KaKaRoTo-KS | I finally got my blootbot running, it just lacks intelligence.. TimRiker gave me the right to learn from apt, I've set it but I don't know when it will learn... :( |
| 05:05.44 | KaKaRoTo-KS | anyways, I"m going to sleep |
| 05:05.46 | KaKaRoTo-KS | good night :) |
| 05:06.05 | KaKaRoTo-KS | (ohh.. btw, you knew you could have log files using blootbot ? ) |
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| 05:36.16 | eshep | has anyone used the evolume module for e17? |
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| 06:41.00 | eshep | if anyone wants the volume module for e17, i found a deb that works. |
| 06:41.23 | eshep | apt x en es if anyone wants the volume module for e17, i found a deb that works. |
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| 06:47.27 | Thanatermesis | a deb ? |
| 06:47.37 | Thanatermesis | from ? |
| 06:50.07 | eshep | Thanatermesis: i got it from http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/files/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/utils/evolume_0.0.9-1_i386.deb |
| 06:50.20 | eshep | maybe include in the next release? |
| 06:52.34 | Thanatermesis | from this no |
| 06:52.41 | Thanatermesis | because is posible to not works properly |
| 06:52.56 | Thanatermesis | the E libs makes a lot and a lot of changes all weeks |
| 06:53.21 | Thanatermesis | one day to another its posible to 2 or 3 EFL aplications not posible to compile because the changes in the code |
| 06:53.36 | eshep | true, but its working for me. |
| 06:53.45 | Thanatermesis | all aplications needs to are compiled with the E libs from the same upgrade... |
| 06:53.51 | eshep | i had problems comiling the cvs one |
| 06:54.12 | Thanatermesis | this module not are compiled from the same libs to I use |
| 06:54.33 | Thanatermesis | what are the CVS of evolume ? |
| 06:55.11 | eshep | they are at http://rec0.rec.smr.ru/davinchi/public/e17/ |
| 06:55.28 | eshep | and sf.net |
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| 06:56.16 | eshep | did you add in the e17-gtk theme? it looks really nice |
| 06:56.36 | eshep | to the livecd |
| 06:59.17 | Thanatermesis | posible no for the livecd, but included in the repository of elive |
| 06:59.54 | eshep | i saw that, it was much easier to just apt-get it. thanks a lot |
| 07:00.51 | Thanatermesis | the main problem its the limited size of Elive... includes a lot of programs, and are full the CD size |
| 07:01.42 | eshep | right, pretty soon you might have to move to a livedvd. |
| 07:01.45 | eshep | hahaha |
| 07:02.27 | Thanatermesis | hehehe, yes, this is a good idea |
| 07:02.38 | Thanatermesis | but first need another points to finished |
| 07:02.46 | Thanatermesis | a complete Elive perfectly working |
| 07:02.51 | Thanatermesis | a panel of control for Elive |
| 07:02.53 | eshep | just think of the possibilties |
| 07:03.14 | Thanatermesis | a selection of the good (and big) programs to include in elivedvd |
| 07:03.32 | eshep | i agree, a control panel would be great for the noobs |
| 07:03.49 | Thanatermesis | and... only downloadable from torrent files... because the traffic of this posible iso are really too big |
| 07:04.10 | eshep | definatley |
| 07:04.14 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/nada-borrar3.jpg |
| 07:04.42 | eshep | just dont make it all cluttered like that damned knoppix |
| 07:04.46 | Thanatermesis | this is my first test with the future Elpanel, not are beautifull for this moments... but works and launch what i need :) |
| 07:05.13 | eshep | apt knoppix |
| 07:05.25 | apt | eshep, Knoppix != Debian, and #debian != #knoppix. /join #knoppix if you run Knoppix and have questions |
| 07:05.26 | Thanatermesis | cluttered ? what is ? |
| 07:05.36 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 07:06.04 | eshep | cluttered = too much crap |
| 07:06.28 | eshep | apt, is knoppix good or bad? |
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| 07:10.59 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es crap |
| 07:11.09 | Thanatermesis | crap crap |
| 07:11.12 | Thanatermesis | apt crap |
| 07:11.14 | apt | methinks crap is the stream of muck that comes from dog's arses, or the Comprehensive Ruby Archive Portal |
| 07:11.27 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 07:11.32 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es methinks crap is the stream of muck that comes from dog's arses, or the Comprehensive Ruby Archive Portal |
| 07:11.35 | eshep | haha |
| 07:12.00 | Thanatermesis | hehehe, yes |
| 07:12.08 | eshep | Thanatermesis: i gotta go home, ill talk to you later |
| 07:12.09 | Thanatermesis | don't worry, elive != knoppix ;) |
| 07:12.19 | Thanatermesis | ok, see you |
| 07:13.06 | eshep | !!!!!!!= |
| 07:13.58 | Thanatermesis | hehehe |
| 07:14.39 | eshep | great work, gotta go |
| 07:15.30 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, pong |
| 07:16.02 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo ping muerto xD |
| 07:16.13 | Thanatermesis | digo... deprecated :) |
| 07:16.16 | Thanatermesis | apt deprecated |
| 07:16.17 | apt | somebody said deprecated was a typo of depreciated, see depreciated, or not a typo according to the jargon file... oh well here it is "you can use it, but it's no longer the best way and will probably be unsupported soon" since when become typos new words |
| 07:16.34 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 07:16.42 | Thanatermesis | deprecated no es "abandonado" ? |
| 07:16.45 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es deprecated |
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| 07:28.44 | Elive_user | hello thanatermesis could i ask a question concerning elive beta 0.03? am having trouble with sata harddrive install my drives arent recognized by fdisk,cfdisk,gpart,hdparm. is this on purpose for the demo? |
| 07:29.24 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es is this on purpose for the demo? |
| 07:29.40 | Thanatermesis | the next version very posible to not |
| 07:29.56 | Thanatermesis | needs to recompile a new kernel with new support of SATA |
| 07:30.16 | Thanatermesis | the SATA driver included in the actual kernel its a old SATA version |
| 07:30.37 | Elive_user | im a loyal fan of enlightenment project and elivecd project. if i installed debian or such would that be a better way to install .17 enlightenment? |
| 07:31.55 | Elive_user | i luv the demo as such have'nt rebooted for days deen trying to hack my drivers for my harddrive to the install :) |
| 07:32.39 | Thanatermesis | debian installs in SATA actually ? |
| 07:33.33 | Thanatermesis | without the SATA drivers not are really easy to install... but allways posible :) |
| 07:33.42 | Elive_user | ill have to recompile a kernel? is there an easier sulotion like maybe a module or am i asking a lammer question? =) |
| 07:33.52 | Thanatermesis | not exactly |
| 07:34.23 | Thanatermesis | you can recompile the kernel... but how to use ? you need to use a kernel for load the Elive system and "open" your hard disk for install :( |
| 07:36.31 | Elive_user | im really excited to introduce this elivecd to other friends. we all jumped into linux together been really great. many have followed gnome and kde or WM2 i kept with enlightenment .15 - .16 i belive this to be correct. |
| 07:37.52 | Elive_user | is there a date set for the next realease of elive? - later beta that may have sata installed in the kernel? |
| 07:39.15 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 07:39.35 | Thanatermesis | Im not sure... I need to finish the first version of Elpanel before the next release |
| 07:39.46 | Thanatermesis | and after, make the "unstable" version of Elive... new kernel etc... |
| 07:39.59 | Thanatermesis | SATA are a module of the kernel ? |
| 07:41.40 | Thanatermesis | Im not use SATA, I don't know for this... what are exactly ? a module ? works same to scsi device type ? |
| 07:41.55 | Elive_user | i see is there a easy sulotion fo me to complile in my present live demo like a program such as genkernel like in gentoo? then i could recompile that way |
| 07:42.31 | Elive_user | yes its tha same a scsi i belive soo |
| 07:42.41 | Thanatermesis | yes, try it, "apt-get install elive-kernel-compile" ;) |
| 07:42.57 | Thanatermesis | and after, you can have the posibility of compile any driver/module for the kernel |
| 07:43.47 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, do you like to help to Elive for include SATA support for the next release ? |
| 07:44.14 | Elive_user | would be great. |
| 07:44.47 | Elive_user | im not a pro. |
| 07:45.12 | Thanatermesis | ok, try this, install this package, compile the SATA modules... and if works good and install in the hard disk, contact me, for describe the steps, how to download the SATA drivers etc... and Im include this for the next release ;) |
| 07:45.53 | Thanatermesis | I dont know how to works SATA, and not have SATA machines for make this... because this I need a person for I make the tests... |
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| 07:46.15 | Elive_user | i've completely left the windows world. i'll help were i can. thumbs up to you my hat tips mate. |
| 07:46.17 | Thanatermesis | or I conect in your machine with ssh in liveCD mode if you like... its another posibility |
| 07:46.53 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es thumbs up to you my hat tips mate. |
| 07:47.23 | Elive_user | i would'nt mind at all for an ssh mode |
| 07:47.58 | Elive_user | which port you need me to open for you thanatermesis? |
| 07:48.25 | Thanatermesis | 22 |
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| 07:48.55 | Thanatermesis | but... this not are a good moment for I make this Elive_user ... its 10:00 AM and I need to sleep :) hehe |
| 07:49.47 | Elive_user | lol np |
| 07:50.22 | Elive_user | how do i do that private |
| 07:52.29 | Thanatermesis | apt x en fr how do i do that private |
| 07:52.46 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:00.29 | Elive_user | thanks Thanatermesis will contact you later have a nice rest. and im gonna do tha same really. btw whom ever running the and d'j-ing tha elive essence music has really good taste in selection of music!!.. talk soon |
| 08:00.57 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 08:01.06 | Thanatermesis | ok, np, see you after |
| 08:01.21 | Elive_user | las gracias que Thanatermesis le entrará en contacto con tienen más adelante un resto agradable. e im yendo a hacer tha iguales realmente. BTW que siempre el funcionamiento de y d'j-ing música elive de la esencia del tha tiene gusto realmente bueno en la selección de la música!!.. charla pronto |
| 08:01.29 | Elive_user | =) will do |
| 08:02.06 | Thanatermesis | hehe, ok |
| 08:02.18 | Elive_user | (waves) night |
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| 08:20.01 | Enlighted | nass |
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| 09:10.46 | Thanatermesis | nas Enlighted |
| 09:11.29 | Enlighted | Thanatermesis: usa unionfs 1.0.14 para el kernel 2.6.13 |
| 09:11.34 | Enlighted | a ver si compila :D |
| 09:11.51 | Thanatermesis | ya compila ? |
| 09:11.57 | Enlighted | salio ayer esa version |
| 09:12.08 | Enlighted | es de suponer k habran arreglado los errores bajo la 2.6.13 |
| 09:12.12 | Enlighted | :P |
| 09:12.37 | Enlighted | Bájalo de ftp://ftp.fsl.cs.sunysb.edu/pub/unionfs/ |
| 09:12.48 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, los snapshots salen cada hora |
| 09:12.49 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 09:12.57 | Enlighted | no es un snapshot |
| 09:13.03 | Enlighted | es una version "estable" |
| 09:13.05 | Enlighted | :) |
| 09:13.18 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 09:13.34 | Enlighted | vingaaaa, hazlo por nosotros....XDD |
| 09:13.38 | Enlighted | amorsito |
| 09:13.40 | Enlighted | XDD |
| 09:13.47 | Thanatermesis | xD |
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| 09:43.49 | yiyus | morning all! |
| 09:44.00 | yiyus | thanatermesis: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22983866/ |
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| 09:46.08 | Thanatermesis | good yiyus :) |
| 09:47.03 | Thanatermesis | aunque creo que me sigue gustando mas el primero |
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| 09:49.07 | mchasard | salut |
| 09:49.41 | Thanatermesis | hi mchasard |
| 09:49.46 | mchasard | comment va ? |
| 09:49.52 | Thanatermesis | ça va.. :) |
| 09:50.02 | mchasard | alors je vois que le site est en train de s'etoffer avec des forums en plus c super |
| 09:50.09 | mchasard | cool |
| 09:50.24 | mchasard | ça prend forme comme les autres distrib |
| 09:50.41 | mchasard | au fait est ce que tu as essayé d'utiliser cd persistent ? |
| 09:51.39 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 09:52.01 | Thanatermesis | non, pas encore, j'ai pas u encore le temps... mais a parament, il boot pas non-plus de le USB |
| 09:52.15 | Thanatermesis | il faudrait essayer le boot du USB par la proxaine version... |
| 09:52.41 | mchasard | ah ok ...toujours des ameliorations a venir alors ... |
| 09:53.31 | Thanatermesis | ben oui... toujours :) |
| 09:53.38 | Thanatermesis | il i a plein de choses a faire :/ |
| 09:54.00 | mchasard | oui et tu fais ça a temps plein ? ou c juste un truc en plus |
| 09:54.21 | Thanatermesis | jour et nuit |
| 09:54.24 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 09:54.53 | mchasard | mais alors de quoi tu vis , tu n'as pas de job en plus ou bien tu as des subventions ;-) |
| 09:55.29 | Thanatermesis | des subventions par le moment, hehe |
| 09:55.41 | mchasard | c cool ... |
| 09:55.56 | Thanatermesis | oui.. il me reste juste 1 mois et demi :/ |
| 09:56.09 | Thanatermesis | apres.. je ne sait pas qoi il va passer avec Elive ... |
| 09:56.29 | mchasard | ah oui j'espere que tu ne vas pas abandonner le projet |
| 09:56.39 | mchasard | ce serait dommage |
| 09:57.02 | Thanatermesis | oui mais.. dabord il faudrait savoire ce que je ferait ce jour la... et si j'ai du temps pour men ocuper... |
| 09:57.32 | mchasard | bon on en est pas encore la ...j'espere que d'ici la tu feras un beau boulot dessus |
| 09:57.51 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 09:57.59 | Thanatermesis | en tout cas 1 mois et demi c'est pas trop... |
| 09:58.09 | mchasard | enfin moi je suis cela de tres pres ...enfin du mieux que je peux |
| 09:58.58 | mchasard | bon je dois te laisser @+ |
| 09:59.06 | Thanatermesis | ok, a+ |
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| 09:59.47 | yiyus | mira thanatermesis, este es de momento el que a mi mas me gusta: http://www.deviantart.com/view/22984146/ |
| 10:00.08 | yiyus | (la foto de los cables es mejorable...) |
| 10:00.53 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh |
| 10:00.57 | Thanatermesis | si, esta muy bien este tambien |
| 10:01.11 | Thanatermesis | hay tanta opcion que no es facil escoger xD |
| 10:02.11 | yiyus | bueno, voy a dejar esto un rato y ponerme con otra cosa... ¿para cuando necesitarias algo definitivo? |
| 10:03.24 | Thanatermesis | pues no hay mucha prisa la verdad |
| 10:03.32 | Thanatermesis | de momento no hay ninguna fecha |
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| 10:04.29 | yiyus | guay, entonces iré haciendo más y ya veremos, ¿hace falta algo mas (para el boot o algo asi...)? |
| 10:06.52 | Thanatermesis | pues en principio no... |
| 10:10.58 | cocozz | wo cambio de sala |
| 10:11.00 | cocozz | espero que hayan pc's |
| 10:11.02 | cocozz | xDD |
| 10:11.02 | cocozz | taluego |
| 10:19.48 | Thanatermesis | Enlighted me han dicho que te has portado mal hablando español en el foro xD |
| 10:23.35 | Enlighted | ah |
| 10:23.38 | Enlighted | no se puede? XD |
| 10:24.14 | Enlighted | es k el mensaje iba solo pa ti, me acababa de levantar, y no tenia ganas de pensar XD |
| 10:25.34 | Thanatermesis | xDDD |
| 10:25.40 | Thanatermesis | no, es un foro en ingles |
| 10:27.03 | Enlighted | am, pardon pues XD |
| 10:27.33 | Thanatermesis | da igual, con un solo click a desaparecido |
| 10:27.34 | Thanatermesis | xDDDD |
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| 10:30.04 | Enlighted | mala lexe |
| 10:30.06 | Enlighted | XD |
| 10:30.16 | Enlighted | weno, ya te he dado el mensaje de todas formas |
| 10:31.18 | Thanatermesis | si xD |
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| 12:36.06 | Thanatermesis | eshep evolume include in elive ;) |
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| 12:38.57 | roxville | räksmörgås |
| 12:39.13 | Jabba | gött! |
| 12:39.24 | roxville | lol |
| 12:39.31 | roxville | görgött |
| 12:39.39 | Jabba | höhö |
| 12:39.40 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 12:39.51 | roxville | keybconf thana |
| 12:39.59 | roxville | itäs keybconf |
| 12:40.33 | roxville | bit its not easy to switch, wish there was a alt-shift combination |
| 12:40.50 | Thanatermesis | good :) |
| 12:40.57 | roxville | Ö) |
| 12:41.00 | roxville | damn |
| 12:41.03 | roxville | :) |
| 12:41.05 | Thanatermesis | roxville try: "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" (no configure, only look if works |
| 12:41.18 | roxville | ok |
| 12:43.30 | roxville | jag fyller läbbiga, läbbiga 40 år idag...min syrra har skickat svenskt godis...salmiakbalkar... mums! |
| 12:44.03 | eshep | Thanatermesis: cool, it was just a suggestion though |
| 12:44.27 | Jabba | ojoj! grattis! |
| 12:44.40 | roxville | eshep, the file? wanna try? |
| 12:45.04 | eshep | sure, fire away |
| 12:45.08 | roxville | tack jabba...men det e läskigt att bli 40 finns inte i min tanke-sfär lol |
| 12:45.12 | eshep | btw, mornin |
| 12:45.36 | Jabba | hihi |
| 12:45.44 | Jabba | näfan ska nog dra mig |
| 12:45.53 | Jabba | ut och dricka öl |
| 12:45.53 | eshep | oooohhhh! much better |
| 12:46.04 | roxville | ok grabben, ha det fint! |
| 12:46.14 | roxville | oh yeah! |
| 12:46.21 | Jabba | tack detsamma :) |
| 12:46.30 | roxville | öl, vicken sort? |
| 12:46.52 | Jabba | tjadu, det vet jag inte riktigt :) |
| 12:47.01 | roxville | drick en svenskt öl åt mej, vad som helst UTOM pripps, ok? |
| 12:47.03 | Jabba | finns det nån riktig öl i usa förresten? :D |
| 12:47.09 | Jabba | haha, ska jag göra! |
| 12:47.41 | roxville | ja, det finns riktigt god bärs här! inte bara budweiser å Coors |
| 12:47.48 | roxville | tack! |
| 12:47.52 | roxville | morsning |
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| 12:48.11 | Jabba | kanske får komma över och utforska, det man smakat hittils har varit mer vatten än öl :) |
| 12:48.14 | roxville | eshep, that was pretty swift! |
| 12:48.34 | eshep | roxville: yeah, not bad |
| 12:48.35 | Jabba | nej, nu är det dags, grattis och hej. |
| 12:48.49 | roxville | ja, men det finns en massa micro+bryggerier som gör himla smaskiga biror |
| 12:48.58 | roxville | ok, mors |
| 12:48.59 | Jabba | ok |
| 12:50.31 | eshep | roxville: sounds good, i like it |
| 12:51.24 | eshep | roxville: wanna try from me to you |
| 12:51.30 | roxville | thanks, man! itäs just a live recording... but it sounds pretty good, i only had to bump up the volume a little bit |
| 12:51.39 | roxville | sorry for the swedish letters |
| 12:51.53 | roxville | they are where the commas and stuff are |
| 12:52.05 | roxville | fire away dude! |
| 12:53.59 | eshep | not bad, huh? |
| 12:54.12 | roxville | damn, jabba was going out for beer at 3pm? |
| 12:54.18 | roxville | nice, i like! |
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| 12:56.00 | roxville | eshep, is that from work or from home? |
| 12:56.43 | roxville | and what was that idea you had for thana? sounded interesting? |
| 12:56.54 | eshep | from home, work is also fibre but it has a half mile wireless break in it |
| 12:57.27 | roxville | whoa |
| 12:57.51 | eshep | roxville: to include the evolume module in the livecd |
| 12:58.21 | roxville | yea, that is a good idea |
| 12:59.16 | eshep | i also had suggested the e17-gtk theme, but its too big and really only cosmetic |
| 12:59.56 | roxville | but cosmetic can be good! it is a nice theme! |
| 13:00.04 | roxville | too big? |
| 13:00.51 | eshep | ??? mabey later on a elivedvd? |
| 13:01.18 | eshep | too big for what its worth mabey? |
| 13:01.34 | roxville | no... well, i think live dvds are overkill...i have tried suse and such...horrible |
| 13:02.37 | roxville | and knoppix...takes forever to load on a my computer 1.6 Ghz, 256 RAM |
| 13:02.53 | eshep | most are just too much crap, as long as you keep your focus you could make a really good one |
| 13:03.08 | eshep | knoppix4? sucks |
| 13:03.44 | eshep | the dvd doesnt have to be full just because it can be |
| 13:03.48 | roxville | yes, that would be correct. i guess when you make your first live dvd, you really wanna get EVERYTHING in there |
| 13:04.39 | roxville | bubba, i have no use for gentoo sparc, so..ok if i cancel? |
| 13:05.30 | roxville | 80 kbps is a nice tx rate! |
| 13:06.27 | eshep | i think its running a little slow though |
| 13:06.38 | eshep | go ahead and cancel |
| 13:07.01 | eshep | i just wanted to get a good test |
| 13:07.13 | roxville | ok... whatever you say...maybe i set the download speed to the same as the upload...possible |
| 13:07.35 | eshep | mine is set at 0 |
| 13:07.40 | roxville | yeah, i am glad i finally got it working |
| 13:07.53 | roxville | thx for your support :) |
| 13:08.24 | roxville | can that be 0 too? for unlimited? |
| 13:09.10 | eshep | yeah, i think 0=unlimited |
| 13:09.32 | roxville | okidoki, i will switch |
| 13:09.36 | eshep | i didnt even set any ports |
| 13:09.50 | eshep | on my router |
| 13:10.04 | roxville | really? |
| 13:10.27 | roxville | wow...that is great! |
| 13:10.49 | eshep | i have all zeros in the prefs |
| 13:11.41 | roxville | wow |
| 13:12.25 | roxville | ok, try send again. if the tx reat is the same, i prolly need to restart or something |
| 13:13.12 | roxville | there ya go!! |
| 13:13.23 | roxville | holy shit! |
| 13:13.58 | roxville | what is it? |
| 13:14.03 | roxville | the file? |
| 13:14.42 | Thanatermesis | eshep you don't like the knoppix4 ? |
| 13:15.32 | eshep | nice speeeeeeeeeeed |
| 13:15.47 | roxville | i do not like knoppix. period. |
| 13:15.57 | Thanatermesis | hehe, yes ? very posible to are working from a DVD ? |
| 13:16.08 | eshep | i gotta check on the daughter, shes sick 39C |
| 13:16.19 | roxville | ouch! |
| 13:16.24 | roxville | how old? |
| 13:16.28 | Thanatermesis | :/ |
| 13:17.45 | roxville | eshep is sending me a file. i get 220 kbps...nice! |
| 13:19.37 | roxville | no KBps |
| 13:20.30 | Thanatermesis | EliveDVD ? :) |
| 13:21.03 | roxville | lol thana...ok, make a dvd Ö) |
| 13:21.05 | eshep | Thaatermesis yeah, i made one on my lunch hour |
| 13:21.19 | roxville | but makes sure you have a CD version for older HW |
| 13:21.29 | Thanatermesis | hehe, yes, but first i need to include A LOT of programs, I need to make a big list :) |
| 13:21.40 | Thanatermesis | but for make a DVD version... this is not a problem ;) |
| 13:23.25 | eshep | roxville: theres the other half |
| 13:24.02 | roxville | eshep, what is it? |
| 13:24.22 | roxville | sorry, i was making tea |
| 13:24.42 | roxville | i drink so much chai, i sould change my name to Gupta or something |
| 13:24.56 | eshep | roxville: MetalSlug, an arcade side scroller shoot-em-up |
| 13:25.12 | roxville | for_ windows_ |
| 13:25.16 | roxville | ? |
| 13:25.20 | eshep | military cartoony |
| 13:25.54 | eshep | dunno, just grabbed it from some dudes ftp site i found |
| 13:26.07 | roxville | ok lol |
| 13:26.26 | roxville | well it's a bin/cue, so it's very likely so |
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| 13:27.00 | yiyus | metalslug is a very popular arcade machine |
| 13:27.14 | yiyus | i have mame roms of metalslug 1,2 y 3 somewhere... |
| 13:27.19 | Thanatermesis | yiyus very some persons don't have a dvd... Im buyed a dvd recoder only this week, before this, I don't have dvd |
| 13:27.26 | TuxMeister | hola a todos, HY TO ALL! |
| 13:27.48 | roxville | hi TuxMeister |
| 13:27.57 | eshep | roxville: yeah i think your right |
| 13:27.59 | Thanatermesis | 'morning TuxMeister |
| 13:28.13 | TuxMeister | Thanatermesis... mornin'? xD |
| 13:28.24 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/shots/cinelerra-2.jpg <--- cinelerra 2 !!! |
| 13:28.28 | TuxMeister | your timezone must've been mooving away from you lately... xD |
| 13:28.55 | Thanatermesis | yes TuxMeister .. I need to sleep, its 15:30 PM lol |
| 13:29.02 | eshep | Thanatermesis: i like your idea for the "control panel", keep it different from everyone else |
| 13:29.04 | roxville | try to load OpenOffice on knoppix DVD with 256 MB RAM....go have lunch and it MIGHT be done loading when you come back |
| 13:29.31 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es try to load OpenOffice on knoppix DVD with 256 MB RAM....go have lunch and it MIGHT be done loading when you come back |
| 13:29.33 | TuxMeister | roxville, jeezzz!! so bad optimization on that dvd? |
| 13:29.46 | Thanatermesis | roxville you have tried the same operation in knoppix in a non-dvd version ? |
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| 13:30.24 | roxville | yeah. i just...don't like knoppix, is all...do not know whu |
| 13:30.26 | Thanatermesis | but... knoppix eat only for kde, 128 Mb ? |
| 13:30.27 | roxville | why |
| 13:30.36 | roxville | exactly |
| 13:30.43 | roxville | that is one of the reasons |
| 13:30.49 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 13:31.23 | Thanatermesis | I have a 360 Mhz machine... and if Im use knoppix, I use knoppix in mode console, with X its the hell, hehe |
| 13:31.49 | roxville | apt x en es we REALLY need to take e out of the gutter, and make it popular |
| 13:31.50 | Thanatermesis | but... in this moments I have a Elive cd with better fast launch ! :D |
| 13:31.53 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 13:32.23 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es i like your idea for the "control panel", keep it different from everyone else |
| 13:33.00 | roxville | eshep, use the apt x en es when you talk to thana, saves him a LOT of time! |
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| 13:33.08 | eshep | ive installed e17 on a handfull of distros and nothing loads as fast as elive |
| 13:33.28 | eshep | roxville: will do |
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| 13:34.01 | CGA | hola |
| 13:34.02 | roxville | no, nothing beats elive...ok, puppy is pretty darn fast, and DSL too, but they seem more like toys |
| 13:35.11 | eshep | ya know, ive tried a lot of distros and ive never tried puppy |
| 13:35.46 | roxville | it's surprisingly nice |
| 13:36.20 | roxville | i wasn't gonna try, coz it looked so..."B", the logo and all, but it was really good |
| 13:36.30 | eshep | ill probly try it tomorrow |
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| 13:37.35 | eshep | i need something different, im gonna put suse back on my main computer to keep the wife happy |
| 13:37.52 | eshep | she really hates the "U" |
| 13:38.06 | yiyus | whats the fastest distro booting you have tried?? (im looking for a minimal distro to run mythtv) |
| 13:38.24 | roxville | what about "Ku"? |
| 13:38.38 | roxville | DSL is fast |
| 13:38.50 | eshep | yiyus: try gentoo |
| 13:38.57 | roxville | buy puppy is really good |
| 13:39.51 | eshep | i only suggest it because it as minimal as it comes |
| 13:40.23 | roxville | eshep, what about the kde version of "U"? |
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| 13:40.36 | roxville | would your wife do that? |
| 13:40.53 | eshep | im not a big k fan |
| 13:41.13 | roxville | so...she does suse with gnome? |
| 13:41.58 | eshep | no i just load something different, like e |
| 13:42.11 | roxville | on suse? |
| 13:44.19 | eshep | never done it, but hey what am i gonna do? have to rebuild? |
| 13:44.54 | roxville | dunno, but i saw gnome on suse 9.3...was not a pretty sight |
| 13:45.22 | CGA | isn't SuSE using KDE by default? |
| 13:45.56 | roxville | yes |
| 13:46.09 | eshep | it depends, NLD uses gnome for default |
| 13:46.12 | roxville | but you can choose gnome when you install |
| 13:46.28 | CGA | NLD? |
| 13:46.33 | CGA | i see |
| 13:46.42 | eshep | 9.3 was soooooo much better than 9.2 |
| 13:46.58 | eshep | Novell Linux Desktop, not too bad |
| 13:47.06 | CGA | ah ok |
| 13:47.28 | CGA | never used it |
| 13:47.34 | CGA | i triedd SuSE once |
| 13:47.39 | CGA | it was 9.2 |
| 13:47.49 | CGA | then installed 9.3 on a friend's PC |
| 13:48.14 | roxville | i tried 9.1 through 9.3. that was it, i'm done with suse |
| 13:48.21 | Thanatermesis | ok, time to a little sleep :) |
| 13:48.25 | CGA | so am I |
| 13:48.27 | Thanatermesis | good night all |
| 13:48.30 | CGA | nn Thanatermesis |
| 13:48.31 | roxville | i hear it used to be really good, but... |
| 13:48.39 | roxville | it got too darn big |
| 13:48.40 | CGA | Thanatermesis, i have some suggestion for the next ellve |
| 13:48.46 | Thanatermesis | yes ? |
| 13:48.52 | CGA | but i tell you tomorrow |
| 13:49.05 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 13:49.05 | roxville | LOL, a teaser! |
| 13:49.15 | CGA | yes i'm |
| 13:49.18 | CGA | :P |
| 13:49.29 | CGA | nope it's just because he's going to sleep |
| 13:49.31 | roxville | Thanatermesis, i have something REALLY cool for the next elive |
| 13:49.37 | CGA | lol |
| 13:49.40 | roxville | but i'll tell you next week |
| 13:49.41 | roxville | maybe |
| 13:49.46 | CGA | perhaps |
| 13:49.46 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 13:49.48 | CGA | lol |
| 13:50.05 | CGA | ok i tell you now |
| 13:50.13 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 13:50.47 | CGA | why don't you include hal dbus and other technologies alike in elive ? |
| 13:50.59 | eshep | good night Thanatermesis |
| 13:51.25 | Thanatermesis | hal dbus ? |
| 13:51.26 | Thanatermesis | apt dbus |
| 13:51.29 | apt | i guess dbus is D-BUS, or http://www.freedesktop.org/software/dbus/ or #dbus |
| 13:51.35 | eshep | i gotta go play Battlefront2 now, see yall later |
| 13:51.40 | Thanatermesis | apt hal |
| 13:51.41 | apt | hal is probably (Hardware Abstraction Layer) This is the portion of the operating system that lets programs deal with hardware directly. This allows programs needing more speed from the computer to bypass the standard OS calls to hardware. So instead of calling the Windows' API to draw a dialog box, you would go through the pain of actually drawing it out line by ... |
| 13:51.48 | CGA | good gaming eshep |
| 13:52.35 | eshep | yeah, but its still on windows so... |
| 13:53.07 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, Im not sure, hal dbus are a program to comunicate directly with the machine and no with the SO ? |
| 13:54.19 | CGA | they are to automount all the things you insert phisically in the box (example: usb key or other media such as cd etc..) |
| 13:54.33 | roxville | see ya eshep! |
| 13:54.37 | CGA | they comunicate with the OS too |
| 13:55.17 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, similar to "automount" ? |
| 13:55.23 | CGA | better |
| 13:55.37 | Thanatermesis | hummmm |
| 13:55.41 | Thanatermesis | sounds good |
| 13:55.49 | CGA | i'm not so expert but i know for sure they are really good things to add |
| 13:56.01 | Thanatermesis | its a program ? |
| 13:56.11 | CGA | yep (more than one) |
| 13:56.31 | CGA | i don't know how they work tough |
| 13:56.33 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, you know any distro (or better, livecd), to have this ? |
| 13:56.41 | CGA | i have them in default ubuntu install |
| 13:56.45 | Thanatermesis | apt-cache don't show any result |
| 13:56.56 | CGA | try ubuntu live |
| 13:56.57 | Thanatermesis | you know the name of the program ? |
| 13:57.38 | CGA | not really but you can ask someone (for sure in get-e you find) |
| 13:57.57 | Thanatermesis | 5.04 its good ? |
| 13:58.23 | CGA | yep is the stable , but in few days the next version is up |
| 13:58.43 | CGA | anyway for this things you have to watch 5.04 is good as well |
| 14:00.23 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... ok, remember me for this and I make a look tomorrow ;) |
| 14:00.37 | CGA | ok |
| 14:00.54 | CGA | buenas noche |
| 14:01.19 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 14:01.21 | Thanatermesis | buenas noches |
| 14:06.20 | roxville | he has really turned his day around... |
| 14:06.41 | roxville | CGA, thank you for saying stuff like that |
| 14:06.52 | roxville | i know about hal, but not the others |
| 14:07.22 | roxville | and the automount of my firewire drive works like a dream in ubuntu |
| 14:08.18 | roxville | CGA, a few days till breezy badger? i thought it would be at the end of october |
| 14:08.37 | CGA | not sure |
| 14:08.46 | CGA | i said few days just to say something :P |
| 14:08.51 | roxville | LOL |
| 14:09.44 | CGA | anyway someone says about 2 weeks |
| 14:10.07 | roxville | wow, that would be amazing |
| 14:10.20 | roxville | the snapshots are looking really promising |
| 14:10.40 | roxville | cool with the update feature when you mount the cd in hoary |
| 14:14.00 | roxville | you know what would be really cool? a cd that would install e in ubuntu. i know it's a little hard, because of the ubuntu libs, but...it would be so cool |
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| 14:14.37 | roxville | or, turn ubuntu into elive or something...i'm not sure what yet |
| 14:14.51 | roxville | just got the idea |
| 14:16.12 | CGA | well you can install E17 (or 16) on ubuntu |
| 14:17.01 | roxville | i know, i've done it. |
| 14:17.15 | roxville | that's why i want something else lol |
| 14:17.22 | CGA | ah ok |
| 14:17.33 | CGA | BTW i knew what you ment |
| 14:17.39 | CGA | a kind of E-buntu |
| 14:17.43 | roxville | the install itself wasn't so hard...but the configuration! man!... tough |
| 14:18.17 | CGA | i might try that on breezy |
| 14:18.24 | CGA | i'm on hoary now and gnome |
| 14:18.39 | roxville | it's the ubuntu libc6 that messes up a lot of apps and...e |
| 14:18.40 | CGA | i'm waiting a bit more to install E |
| 14:19.31 | roxville | the guy that had the repo shut it down, so now you have to do a lot of it your self |
| 14:21.14 | CGA | that sucks |
| 14:21.14 | roxville | big time |
| 14:21.15 | roxville | but thana and them don't like ubuntu... |
| 14:21.17 | CGA | they're kind right to not like it |
| 14:21.31 | roxville | so...that's why we (The guys that KNOW), have to convince them that ubuntu is actually a good thing |
| 14:21.44 | CGA | something in ubuntu i don't like is the root thingy |
| 14:21.45 | roxville | why you say that? |
| 14:21.51 | CGA | something in ubuntu i don't like is the root thingy |
| 14:21.53 | roxville | you mean sudo? |
| 14:22.07 | CGA | how they managed the root situation in the whole |
| 14:22.13 | CGA | it's kinda disappeared |
| 14:22.42 | CGA | that makes it eaiser for noob but it 's not so pleasant for an "expert" |
| 14:22.55 | CGA | anyway not big deal |
| 14:23.06 | roxville | well...it's like this...the less a newbie can see of that, the less there is to be "scared" of |
| 14:23.13 | roxville | like mac osx |
| 14:23.33 | CGA | somehow yes |
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| 14:23.45 | espasmodicos | buenas |
| 14:23.55 | CGA | that's probably wwhy they call it Linux for human beings |
| 14:24.12 | CGA | ciao espasmodicos |
| 14:24.33 | roxville | hola espasmodicos...no habla espanol, sorry |
| 14:24.51 | espasmodicos | alguien me puede decir que debo tener activado en el kernel para tener dma en el cdrom? |
| 14:25.04 | espasmodicos | y que hablas roxville ? |
| 14:25.30 | CGA | espasmodicos, DMA in the kernel |
| 14:25.41 | espasmodicos | CGA, yes |
| 14:25.53 | CGA | it's called DMA module or something like that |
| 14:26.07 | CGA | don't remember where it is |
| 14:26.16 | CGA | long time i don't compile a kernel |
| 14:26.16 | espasmodicos | but I activated all options with DMA word |
| 14:26.23 | roxville | yes...and it has been what REALLY got me into linux...i have learned so much, because it's not totally geek from the beginning |
| 14:26.28 | espasmodicos | sorry for my english |
| 14:26.29 | espasmodicos | xD |
| 14:26.39 | CGA | no problemo |
| 14:26.40 | roxville | espasmodicos, habla sueco y ingles |
| 14:26.58 | espasmodicos | jaja como mucho ingles roxville |
| 14:27.08 | espasmodicos | y flojito |
| 14:27.20 | espasmodicos | aver |
| 14:27.35 | roxville | apt x en es this is really cool, espasmodicos , have you seen this? |
| 14:28.13 | roxville | apt x en es apt is a bot that translates pretty well from english to spaninsh |
| 14:28.30 | espasmodicos | hdparm returs the next error |
| 14:28.31 | espasmodicos | tux:/usr/src# hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd |
| 14:28.31 | espasmodicos | /dev/hdd: |
| 14:28.31 | espasmodicos | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.31 | espasmodicos | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.32 | espasmodicos | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.42 | roxville | apt x en es not as good from spanish to english though |
| 14:29.12 | espasmodicos | roxville, prefiero apa?arme yo asi aprendo |
| 14:29.50 | roxville | apt x es en roxville, prefiero apa?arme yo asi aprendo |
| 14:30.03 | roxville | ok :) |
| 14:30.06 | espasmodicos | xD |
| 14:30.17 | espasmodicos | esta guapo ese bot |
| 14:30.29 | espasmodicos | apt x esta guapo ese bot |
| 14:30.37 | espasmodicos | xDDDD |
| 14:30.38 | CGA | es un poquito babelfish :P |
| 14:31.38 | espasmodicos | bueno alguien/someone sabe/knows como/howto activar/turn on el/the dma? |
| 14:31.38 | espasmodicos | xD |
| 14:32.26 | espasmodicos | lo que me da rabia es que elive me lo activa bien... |
| 14:32.38 | CGA | no se |
| 14:34.07 | roxville | no espasmodicos , i have never seen that problem...are you sure hdd is the right device? because i have had THAT problem |
| 14:34.44 | espasmodicos | hmm yes i sure |
| 14:35.02 | espasmodicos | hdd is my cdrom device |
| 14:35.30 | CGA | i think that DMA isn't for optical drives |
| 14:35.30 | roxville | so what is hdc on your machine? your 1st cdrom? |
| 14:35.35 | CGA | just for HardDisk |
| 14:35.45 | roxville | nope, it's for optical too |
| 14:35.54 | CGA | just a guess |
| 14:35.59 | roxville | it's for anything that spins |
| 14:36.02 | CGA | ok |
| 14:36.09 | CGA | thx i know something more |
| 14:36.15 | roxville | :) |
| 14:36.25 | roxville | i learn from you too buddy :) |
| 14:36.32 | CGA | eh eh |
| 14:37.21 | espasmodicos | i dont have hdc |
| 14:37.23 | espasmodicos | tux:/usr/src# hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc |
| 14:37.24 | espasmodicos | /dev/hdc: No such device or address |
| 14:38.43 | roxville | ok, not in fstab either then...what does your fstab say...in elive you have to change /dev/cdrom to dev/hdc or hdd manually so far |
| 14:39.52 | espasmodicos | now i using my debian |
| 14:42.25 | espasmodicos | I don't know what you want to say |
| 14:42.48 | espasmodicos | apt x ok, not in fstab either then...what does your fstab say...in elive you have to change /dev/cdrom to dev/hdc or hdd manually so far |
| 14:42.56 | roxville | ok..have you installed elive to you hard drive? |
| 14:43.02 | espasmodicos | no |
| 14:43.07 | roxville | i guess i should have asked that first |
| 14:43.11 | roxville | ok |
| 14:43.18 | espasmodicos | because my hd is sata |
| 14:43.49 | roxville | then it's werid, coz the hardware recognition in elive is pretty good...in live mode |
| 14:44.18 | espasmodicos | yes |
| 14:44.24 | espasmodicos | I know |
| 14:44.41 | roxville | sata...ok...i think thanatermesis is still working on that |
| 14:44.43 | espasmodicos | :) |
| 14:45.18 | espasmodicos | tengo ganas de que lo arregle :) |
| 14:46.00 | roxville | ok, that's as far as MY expertise can take you, buddy (i'm NOT an expert) |
| 14:46.36 | roxville | apt x es en tengo ganas de que lo arregle |
| 14:46.52 | espasmodicos | :) |
| 14:46.56 | espasmodicos | desire |
| 14:47.02 | roxville | i'm sure you do, buddy! |
| 14:47.16 | espasmodicos | apt x yo tambien |
| 14:47.45 | roxville | apt x es en yo tambien |
| 14:47.53 | espasmodicos | i cannot use apt boot? |
| 14:47.56 | espasmodicos | apt bot? |
| 14:47.59 | apt | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
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| 14:48.17 | espasmodicos | xDDD |
| 14:48.34 | roxville | espasmodicos, don't do that! he is very sensitive about saying that! lol |
| 14:48.45 | CGA | cute bot |
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| 14:49.22 | roxville | yep. sure is handy in this multilingual channel |
| 14:49.48 | roxville | Anandamide, illinois? |
| 14:49.59 | Anandamide | yup |
| 14:50.13 | Anandamide | how about you? |
| 14:50.35 | roxville | did you know that comcast is bumping up to 6mbps now? |
| 14:50.44 | Anandamide | no =D |
| 14:50.48 | Anandamide | thats sweet |
| 14:50.52 | roxville | and if you pay an extra $10, you get 8mbps |
| 14:50.53 | Anandamide | thanks for the info |
| 14:51.06 | Anandamide | im already paying $50 |
| 14:51.11 | roxville | and up speed will be 512 |
| 14:51.16 | Anandamide | i really want to increase my upstream |
| 14:51.30 | Anandamide | using ssh and stuff sucks |
| 14:51.58 | roxville | but the upstream change to 512 will be welcome |
| 14:52.12 | roxville | even if it's not a lot |
| 14:52.17 | Anandamide | can they just increase your upstream? |
| 14:52.43 | roxville | lol, dunno. i guess you have to ask them |
| 14:53.27 | Anandamide | i think i will cause i like to use my box at school and want to set up some services |
| 14:54.47 | Anandamide | do you know how i can clean up the distortion in alsa sound? |
| 14:55.09 | roxville | in elive? |
| 14:55.16 | Anandamide | yea |
| 14:55.32 | roxville | no, i haven't touched that yet...even though sound is...what i do most |
| 14:55.35 | Anandamide | i lowered the DACs and its still distorting a bit |
| 14:55.58 | roxville | yea, i had the same prob last night, with rezound...hmmm |
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| 14:56.09 | Anandamide | rezound sounds fine actually |
| 14:56.16 | Anandamide | maybe its xmms |
| 14:56.30 | Anandamide | now that i remember |
| 14:56.38 | roxville | lol |
| 14:56.53 | roxville | let's have a talk with thana when he wakes up |
| 14:57.22 | Anandamide | poor guy must have a lot of work with this project |
| 14:57.39 | Anandamide | i catually had to figure a lot of stuff on my own cause he evads the questions |
| 14:57.48 | roxville | yeah...it's 5pm in spain now...and he just went to bed |
| 14:58.09 | roxville | he evades you questions? lol |
| 14:58.26 | roxville | well he sure gets a lot of q's |
| 14:58.31 | Anandamide | i changed the mixer device in xmms from PCM to DAC and it seems to sound better |
| 14:58.43 | roxville | ok |
| 14:58.47 | Anandamide | thats why i would not start something like this |
| 14:59.01 | Anandamide | then people feel like your responsible for them |
| 14:59.29 | roxville | yep |
| 14:59.54 | roxville | he needs a bigger team...should not take it all on himself |
| 15:00.22 | roxville | coz elive has a lot going for it. it could be REALLY good |
| 15:00.39 | Anandamide | have you installed xorg and used xcompmgr and transset? |
| 15:00.49 | roxville | instead of just a college-geek distro |
| 15:00.57 | roxville | or whatever it is now lol |
| 15:00.58 | Anandamide | it looks sweet but its slow on my box |
| 15:01.10 | roxville | what do you have? |
| 15:01.24 | Anandamide | Pent 3 866Mhz 256RAM |
| 15:01.29 | Anandamide | 6GB drive |
| 15:01.31 | Anandamide | LOL |
| 15:01.42 | Anandamide | piece of shit |
| 15:01.43 | roxville | that should be plent fast! |
| 15:01.51 | roxville | =y |
| 15:01.53 | Anandamide | yea i think i might have a RAM issue |
| 15:02.05 | roxville | could be |
| 15:02.24 | Anandamide | i like this distro but i dont like how after you install it it looks nothing like the Live version |
| 15:02.36 | Anandamide | for example, where is that control panel |
| 15:02.40 | roxville | i think i do too..had a lightning strike that i thought killed my comp...but it works....almost all the time |
| 15:02.53 | roxville | what control panel? |
| 15:02.54 | Anandamide | and why is entagle not transparent |
| 15:03.07 | roxville | coz entangle is an e17 app |
| 15:03.08 | Anandamide | where you go to install it |
| 15:03.36 | Anandamide | and you have access to netconfig printing etc |
| 15:03.41 | roxville | it's the folder with tools on it, in the ibar or ...in the dock |
| 15:03.53 | Anandamide | doc |
| 15:03.58 | Anandamide | i think its the last icon |
| 15:04.02 | roxville | yes |
| 15:04.07 | Anandamide | whats it called? |
| 15:04.18 | Anandamide | ill go make an icon for it |
| 15:04.27 | Anandamide | making icons is a pain |
| 15:04.35 | roxville | elive panel of control or somethiung like that |
| 15:04.57 | roxville | yes, it is kinda tedious |
| 15:05.13 | roxville | but thana is working on a new one, just for elive |
| 15:06.56 | roxville | but that folder disappears when you install |
| 15:08.14 | Anandamide | do you know what the command is for it? |
| 15:08.32 | roxville | Anandamide, i do not think it is really a control panel app. it's just a folder with some config apps and scripts |
| 15:08.43 | Anandamide | oh |
| 15:09.01 | Anandamide | then ill have to boot from the cd and migrate that stuff |
| 15:09.21 | roxville | or just insert the cd and try to copy it |
| 15:10.01 | roxville | ok, now i'm intrigued lol |
| 15:10.05 | roxville | gotta try too |
| 15:10.34 | Anandamide | =) |
| 15:10.54 | Anandamide | i want the same experience that i had with the Live version and tweak it from there |
| 15:11.10 | Anandamide | my setup is not so bad now so i dont know why i am crying |
| 15:11.20 | Anandamide | and its forcing me to get into the guts a lot more |
| 15:13.04 | yiyus | pr0t0cod7, what about this one? http://www.deviantart.com/view/22989351/ |
| 15:13.13 | roxville | oh god, i'm not sure i wanna get into this... |
| 15:14.03 | roxville | yiyus, that's nice! |
| 15:14.34 | Anandamide | wallpaper? |
| 15:14.46 | yiyus | boot menu |
| 15:15.10 | Anandamide | cool |
| 15:15.29 | yiyus | there are different ones: http://y-i-y-u-s.deviantart.com/scraps/ |
| 15:18.21 | roxville | i like the one with .w.h.e.r.e .d.e.b.i.a.n... |
| 15:18.22 | Anandamide | off to school see ya guys later |
| 15:18.32 | roxville | take care Anandamide |
| 15:18.33 | eshep | i like the 22984146 one |
| 15:18.41 | Anandamide | thanks you too roxville |
| 15:19.32 | yiyus | eshep, me too |
| 15:19.38 | eshep | done for tonight, gotta hit the sack |
| 15:19.51 | roxville | ok man, sleep tight! |
| 15:20.07 | eshep | i think it would fit elive nicely |
| 15:20.21 | roxville | as long as they're not too bright |
| 15:20.45 | roxville | i think too much white would scare ppl lol |
| 15:21.47 | eshep | roxville, remember, mac has a lot of scarry white |
| 15:21.50 | roxville | yeah, the one eshep said was nice...was very nice |
| 15:21.50 | yiyus | its a boot menu, i thought ppl would like to see a bright screen just when they turn on the computer |
| 15:22.43 | roxville | not too bright though, so they have to...look like clint eastwood |
| 15:22.52 | yiyus | hehe |
| 15:23.01 | roxville | although a lot of probably would like to look like him...lol |
| 15:23.35 | roxville | i couldn't think of the word in english |
| 15:23.50 | roxville | clench? |
| 15:23.55 | yiyus | dunno |
| 15:24.05 | roxville | squint |
| 15:24.15 | roxville | i think that's it |
| 15:25.03 | eshep | thats the word your looking for |
| 15:25.20 | roxville | anyway, the way clint looks in those old spaghetti westerns |
| 15:25.20 | eshep | or is it constipated? |
| 15:25.27 | roxville | LMAO |
| 15:25.37 | eshep | oh, then the second one |
| 15:25.49 | roxville | :) |
| 15:26.03 | roxville | that was too funny |
| 15:26.21 | eshep | :] |
| 15:26.50 | roxville | yiyus, you probably also don't want too much out-of-focus, coz the ppl think something's wrong with the puter |
| 15:26.57 | eshep | anyway, i gotta crash. long day tomorrow. |
| 15:27.10 | eshep | g'night yall |
| 15:27.24 | roxville | we know :) |
| 15:27.30 | roxville | see ya tomorrow |
| 15:30.54 | roxville | but yiyus , you definitely have something going! |
| 15:31.44 | yiyus | if ppl (specially thana) agree in a boot menu, ill do the bootsplash screens too |
| 15:31.59 | yiyus | and some backgrounds (perhaps...) |
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| 15:42.11 | roxville | yes, dammit, yes! some neat backgrounds are N.E.E.E.D.E.D. |
| 15:42.56 | roxville | ok, i gotta go be a dad for a while...see ya later on! |
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| 17:05.45 | kender | hello |
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| 17:57.21 | Vernon | hi |
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| 18:13.51 | alquemont | buenas |
| 18:15.55 | yiyus | nas |
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| 18:57.21 | n4cht | hey folks. what's the easiest way to get elive to work in 1280x1024? first time running it. i'm assuming it's just a matter of adjusting my XF86Conf, like with any other distro, but I wanted to see if there's an easier way first. |
| 18:59.32 | sinplomo | installed on hd ? |
| 18:59.42 | sinplomo | elive-bot, change resolution |
| 18:59.42 | n4cht | no, livecd. |
| 18:59.42 | elive-bot | sinplomo: well, elive-resolution is if you like to start with another resolution (and install the system with this resolution), add screen=1024x768 in the boot options |
| 19:00.00 | n4cht | ah. |
| 19:00.02 | n4cht | awesome. |
| 19:00.03 | n4cht | thanks. |
| 19:00.05 | sinplomo | :) |
| 19:00.34 | n4cht | brb. trying that. |
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| 19:03.42 | n4cht | hm. that worked really well. sweeeet. |
| 19:03.56 | n4cht | i'm really digging elive. extremely well-done livecd. |
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| 19:57.18 | sinplomo | apt, x en es stall |
| 19:57.32 | sinplomo | apt, x en es stall man |
| 19:57.39 | sinplomo | xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 19:57.49 | sinplomo | apt, x en es stallman |
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| 20:03.37 | Elive_user | alo |
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| 21:46.36 | Elive_user | Hello |
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| 21:55.32 | luminerd | Is there a 64 bit version/? |
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| 22:14.51 | St- | hello |
| 22:15.25 | roxville | must be cool (or not) to have everybody keeping track on whether you are awake or sleeping |
| 22:15.40 | St- | St- hello |
| 22:15.40 | St- | St- for the crash ? |
| 22:15.40 | St- | St- how i send you ? |
| 22:16.57 | roxville | St-, what's going on? you have a problem? i'm not an expert, but maybe i can help a little |
| 22:17.22 | St- | e17 somethime seg fault |
| 22:17.38 | roxville | yes. |
| 22:17.46 | roxville | it is totally normal |
| 22:17.52 | roxville | don't send anything |
| 22:18.03 | roxville | e17 is still far from being complete |
| 22:18.29 | St- | k |
| 22:18.38 | roxville | and you would send it to www.get-e.org , not to elive |
| 22:19.43 | St- | yes, but here there is experts ;) |
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| 22:19.54 | roxville | e17 is nice to play around with, and look at, but not to be trusted for real use |
| 22:20.30 | St- | roxville, what do u use for screenshots ? |
| 22:21.49 | roxville | ooh, that's a good question... |
| 22:22.00 | roxville | i think it is gnome-screenshot |
| 22:22.15 | roxville | you have to type it in like that in a terminal |
| 22:22.44 | roxville | nope, that was not it |
| 22:22.46 | luminerd | Hey, is there a 64bit version? |
| 22:23.23 | roxville | i don't there is one yet |
| 22:24.34 | roxville | St-, have you installed elive, or are you running from cd? |
| 22:24.55 | St- | installed from cd ;) yea! |
| 22:25.20 | roxville | so..you don't need the cd anymore? |
| 22:26.14 | roxville | ok |
| 22:26.36 | roxville | are you in e16 or e17 right now? |
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| 22:27.10 | St- | yes |
| 22:27.15 | St- | roxville, i use e17 ;) |
| 22:27.46 | roxville | ok, in your menu, there is a program called synaptic, are you familiar with it? |
| 22:27.58 | St- | yes |
| 22:28.02 | roxville | it's under utils or something |
| 22:28.03 | St- | debian package manager ;) |
| 22:28.07 | roxville | yes |
| 22:28.18 | St- | synaptics = apt-get GUI |
| 22:28.21 | roxville | go there, search for screenshot |
| 22:28.46 | roxville | install..i would do gnome-screenshot |
| 22:28.48 | luminerd | is elive anything like debian? |
| 22:28.57 | roxville | yes, very much |
| 22:29.04 | luminerd | oh |
| 22:29.05 | luminerd | never mind |
| 22:29.06 | luminerd | lol |
| 22:29.12 | St- | roxville, i've resolve, i now use capturar ;) |
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| 22:29.19 | roxville | or just apt-get, if you want |
| 22:29.25 | roxville | ok, great! |
| 22:29.56 | roxville | how can someone hate debian? |
| 22:30.11 | roxville | ok, i'll be back soon |
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| 23:15.27 | roxville | shadoi , how much has thana hacked evidence? do you know? |
| 23:15.45 | roxville | is it just the theme? |
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| 23:27.14 | St- | night |
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| 23:35.41 | Elive_user2 | juano |
| 23:35.43 | Elive_user2 | hola |
| 23:35.51 | Elive_user2 | hay alguien? |
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