| 00:11.16 | jnymo | does elive come with some auto-mounting application? |
| 00:45.40 | jnymo | hello |
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| 00:50.45 | PyroPhreak | anyone here? |
| 00:52.23 | PyroPhreak | gekki |
| 00:52.27 | PyroPhreak | hello** |
| 00:52.56 | PyroPhreak | My GUI isnt working |
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| 00:59.08 | Elive_user | hello? |
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| 01:48.33 | roxvilledadstuff | Thanatermesis, do you have an estimated time for the next release? for the wiki. it could be six months or more |
| 01:49.00 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 01:49.04 | Thanatermesis | nooo |
| 01:49.08 | Thanatermesis | 1 month maximum |
| 01:49.20 | roxville | for 0.4? |
| 01:49.28 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 01:49.30 | roxville | or 0.3.1? |
| 01:49.35 | roxville | ok lol |
| 01:49.38 | Thanatermesis | nah, 0.4 better |
| 01:50.01 | Thanatermesis | with xorg and Elpanel... its a "good change" for call "0.4" yes? :) |
| 01:50.20 | roxville | absolutely! |
| 01:50.42 | roxville | you seem very...happy! is elpanel coming along well? |
| 01:50.59 | Thanatermesis | x en es is elpanel coming along well? |
| 01:51.10 | Thanatermesis | ~x en es is elpanel coming along well? |
| 01:51.21 | Thanatermesis | yes, good |
| 01:51.37 | Thanatermesis | but Im not really know how make the work exactly.... |
| 01:51.47 | Thanatermesis | its eye-candy, yes... but how to works ? lol |
| 01:51.59 | roxville | oh...sounds tough |
| 01:52.04 | roxville | yeah |
| 01:52.21 | jnymo | Thanatermesis: hi |
| 01:52.47 | roxville | apt x en es doesn't the enlightenemnt guys require you to like, register it with them..or they have to say ok? |
| 01:53.08 | Thanatermesis | for example, have 3 icons, click in one, enter inthe cube, after 2 seconds, from the cube exit a lot of icons for "this section", and after ? the same effect ? click in one icon, enter in the cube, and aplication are launched... |
| 01:53.11 | Thanatermesis | its good ? |
| 01:53.20 | Thanatermesis | hi jnymo |
| 01:53.48 | roxville | yes, i saw it! it was great! but...you gotta make 'em DO something too! lol |
| 01:53.54 | roxville | and that's the tough part... |
| 01:54.19 | Thanatermesis | the enlightenment guys don't have looked Elpanel for this moments... Im waiting to finish for the people write one "oooh! beautifull" :) |
| 01:54.26 | jnymo | Thanatermesis: does elive have an auto mount utility? |
| 01:54.46 | jnymo | I'm having trouble with my cdrom |
| 01:54.53 | Thanatermesis | not implemented for this moments jnymo ... but posible for the future |
| 01:55.06 | Thanatermesis | ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom |
| 01:55.20 | jnymo | hmm |
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| 01:56.48 | jnymo | hmmmm |
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| 01:57.42 | Thanatermesis | pizza hut using Elive ? :) |
| 01:57.51 | jnymo | oohh myy gosh.. thank you |
| 01:58.02 | Thanatermesis | np |
| 01:58.07 | jnymo | thank you Thanatermesis :) |
| 01:58.38 | roxville | pizza hut using elive? are you drunk or something? |
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| 01:59.00 | roxville | ahhh, ok, i see |
| 01:59.01 | Thanatermesis | xD |
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| 01:59.44 | reliver | for the control panel, are you thinking of allowing access without special effects too ? |
| 02:01.16 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es for the control panel, are you thinking of allowing access without special effects too ? |
| 02:01.16 | reliver | para personas con prioridades trabajo, es dificil trabajar con funcionalidad escondido atras de efectos speciales. |
| 02:01.32 | jnymo | Thanatermesis: I would have never figured that out.. you may want to have that automatically there for the noobs |
| 02:01.59 | Thanatermesis | the visual efects are *only* visual effects... its a panel of control for use... and use all options, no have hidden options |
| 02:02.17 | reliver | great. |
| 02:02.37 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es I would have never figured that out.. you may want to have that automatically there for the noobs |
| 02:02.57 | Thanatermesis | jnymo the "/dev/cdrom" problem ? |
| 02:03.21 | jnymo | si.. ln -s |
| 02:03.42 | Thanatermesis | this is a "problem" in the elive 0.3, a only simply detail to need to repair.... |
| 02:03.48 | Thanatermesis | this is aparently fixed for the next release |
| 02:04.09 | Thanatermesis | but I need to remember to look this before the next release :) |
| 02:04.10 | reliver | para la proxima version, seria possible tener instalacion en ingles, mas teclado en suico ? |
| 02:04.18 | jnymo | ah. great .. nevermind then :) |
| 02:04.36 | Thanatermesis | reliver the installation step are in english |
| 02:05.09 | reliver | si, seria lindo tener todo el sistema instalado en ingles, mas el teclado de otro paiz. |
| 02:05.15 | Thanatermesis | keyboard in swiss... posible, but not sure, I need to add this options/features for the panel of control... but for 0.4, Elpanel its only the "first" version... but the posibility of upgrade :) |
| 02:05.34 | roxville | :) |
| 02:05.47 | Thanatermesis | el sistema instalado esta en el idioma en que has elegido al arrancar la maquina... |
| 02:06.00 | Thanatermesis | pero se podrá cambiar, si :) |
| 02:06.17 | reliver | si. por el momento tiene una opcion para dos cosas: |
| 02:06.43 | reliver | para el idioma del sistema instalado y para el teclado. |
| 02:07.02 | reliver | necesito dos opciones, una para cada cosa. |
| 02:07.17 | sHR00m | Thanatermesis, where i can get the elpanel? |
| 02:07.39 | roxville | if you pick thans' brain sHR00m |
| 02:07.44 | Thanatermesis | sHR00m not exist for this moments... Im building it :) |
| 02:07.45 | sHR00m | ok |
| 02:08.17 | sHR00m | thought there was something like that on livecd ;) |
| 02:08.27 | Thanatermesis | si reliver ... vere como monto todo eso mas adelante con Elpanel ;) |
| 02:08.45 | reliver | bien senhor elpanel ;-) |
| 02:08.51 | roxville | yes sHR00m , but that is just a folder with some config apps in it |
| 02:09.13 | sHR00m | well it would be nice to set the charset |
| 02:09.31 | roxville | i have it in my engage after elive-skel upgrade. but... it doesn't work |
| 02:09.48 | roxville | for your keyboard? |
| 02:10.23 | Thanatermesis | in any case, you reliver and all persons, don't need *really* to download elive 0.4 ... for the release of Elpanel... you can only need to "apt-get install elpanel" ;) |
| 02:10.31 | roxville | sHR00m, for your keyboard? |
| 02:10.37 | sHR00m | exactly |
| 02:10.55 | roxville | sHR00m, i have just the car for you...!! |
| 02:11.28 | sHR00m | at the moment i use utf-8 what isnt really cental european, cause the "umlauts" doesnt work and i have dead keys |
| 02:11.45 | roxville | apt-get install keybconf |
| 02:13.17 | roxville | then, as root: keybconf |
| 02:13.21 | reliver | thanatermesis, te gusteria una lista de deseos para elpanel, en el wiki ? |
| 02:13.25 | roxville | fuck and forget |
| 02:13.33 | reliver | what ? :-) |
| 02:13.34 | roxville | i mean, set and forget |
| 02:13.55 | roxville | reliver, i was talking to sHR00m |
| 02:14.04 | reliver | was that a musical instrument, roxville ? :) |
| 02:14.07 | roxville | trying to help him a little |
| 02:15.00 | roxville | yes, the fuck&forget has a long history, especially in mid europe...germany...switzerland... |
| 02:15.01 | Thanatermesis | si reliver , estaria bien, aunque no puedo asegurar incluirlos todos :) |
| 02:16.13 | reliver | claro. |
| 02:16.35 | Thanatermesis | como anda el wiki ? |
| 02:18.22 | Thanatermesis | link ? |
| 02:19.39 | roxville | Thanatermesis, i have been with my daughter all day. have not had time to do anything but BEGIN on it |
| 02:20.01 | roxville | http://user-land.org/elive/tiki-index.php |
| 02:20.54 | roxville | reliver, have you done anything today? on the wiki? |
| 02:21.42 | roxville | sHR00m, any luck with keybconf? |
| 02:21.49 | sHR00m | no ;) |
| 02:21.54 | sHR00m | it sets it simple to "de" |
| 02:22.04 | reliver | roxville, a tikiwiki specialist promised to help configure it tonight, |
| 02:22.15 | reliver | but i fear he reneged on his promise... |
| 02:22.38 | reliver | does anyone of you know if we need to define an initial structure for it ? |
| 02:22.45 | Thanatermesis | good |
| 02:22.52 | roxville | ok sHR00m ...what do you need? |
| 02:22.54 | Thanatermesis | but need a little more of maintenance/creation |
| 02:22.59 | Thanatermesis | modification, look etc... |
| 02:23.08 | roxville | thanx thana...it's gonna get better! |
| 02:23.14 | sHR00m | roxville, i need a change from utf-8 to iso-8859-15 |
| 02:23.15 | Thanatermesis | delete banners etc.. |
| 02:23.25 | Thanatermesis | "powered by pear" lol |
| 02:23.30 | reliver | ok. |
| 02:23.49 | roxville | lol, ok...we can do that? |
| 02:23.54 | Thanatermesis | roxville its the first steps of the wiki... its in construction ;) |
| 02:23.56 | reliver | also, we have a marketing problem, thanatermesis: |
| 02:24.14 | Thanatermesis | first make a good look an complete page/wiki... after, launch it :) |
| 02:24.34 | Thanatermesis | marketing problem ? |
| 02:24.34 | reliver | elive, or eLive, or Elive, or eLiveCD, or eLiveDVD, ... |
| 02:24.34 | sHR00m | hrhr |
| 02:24.43 | reliver | there should be one clear term to remember, |
| 02:24.44 | Thanatermesis | Elive |
| 02:24.44 | elive-bot | Thanatermesis: Elive |
| 02:24.45 | sHR00m | gnu/eLive ;) |
| 02:24.54 | Thanatermesis | this is the only word of the project |
| 02:24.57 | reliver | and it should correspond to it's internet address. |
| 02:25.14 | Thanatermesis | some persons speak "E-Live", this is bad, not are E<--->Live, but Elive" |
| 02:25.35 | sHR00m | the name is out smallest problem |
| 02:25.37 | sHR00m | our |
| 02:26.04 | Thanatermesis | internet address ? what domain ? |
| 02:26.05 | reliver | for marketing the name is important shr00m. |
| 02:26.10 | reliver | yes. |
| 02:26.31 | Thanatermesis | elivecd.org its only the name of the domain... because all another combinations are ocuped :( |
| 02:26.44 | reliver | yes ... |
| 02:27.00 | sHR00m | reliver, most of the users go to it through get-e.org and the other e17 mainsites |
| 02:27.04 | sHR00m | thats a good marketing |
| 02:27.20 | reliver | oh, but that userbase is very small. |
| 02:27.24 | roxville | i got it from distrowatch |
| 02:28.14 | jnymo | that piano program has no sound for me |
| 02:28.14 | roxville | i don't think linuxiso.org is in the game anymore |
| 02:28.20 | sHR00m | reliver, so is the userbase of e17.. if anyone wants to use it he must visit those pages to know how compile it - or take the live-cd with hd install and recently updated cvs debs :) |
| 02:29.24 | roxville | sHR00m, what reliver means is that he wants to reach beyond the ppl who already KNOW about enlightenment |
| 02:29.42 | jnymo | its called zibsomething |
| 02:29.42 | roxville | i think |
| 02:29.59 | sHR00m | yes but these peoople are typing "elive.org" or something? |
| 02:31.06 | roxville | jnymo, if yopu go to instrument/virtual keyboard |
| 02:31.22 | reliver | they are going to search google for Elive. |
| 02:31.24 | roxville | lol, no... i doubt it |
| 02:31.49 | roxville | oh, that was for sHR00m |
| 02:32.24 | jnymo | roxville.. yea, that worked :) |
| 02:32.44 | roxville | best thing you can do, is what the "u" ppl have done...they go to distrowatch, and sit there and hit the refreshbutton |
| 02:34.10 | roxville | over and over and over... |
| 02:34.44 | sHR00m | Thanatermesis, are you testing those builds? |
| 02:35.18 | jnymo | is there another app that will play audio cds besides xmms? |
| 02:35.39 | roxville | eclair, jn |
| 02:35.52 | roxville | eclair jnymo |
| 02:35.52 | Thanatermesis | 88 Elive 63 ^ |
| 02:35.56 | Thanatermesis | up elive up! |
| 02:36.01 | sHR00m | wanted to ask this before. if not an apt-get upgrade could break every elive-users e17 |
| 02:36.13 | KaKaRoTo-KS | apt lart Thanatermesis |
| 02:36.22 | Thanatermesis | no sHR00m , Im only test the builds for the liveCD's releases, not for the repository upgrade... |
| 02:36.45 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at Thanatermesis |
| 02:36.55 | sHR00m | Thanatermesis, it would be nice to have something like an "backup-cvs build" in the repository |
| 02:36.57 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es lart |
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| 02:37.23 | roxville | jnymo, are you in e16 or e17? |
| 02:37.28 | Thanatermesis | humm.. in any case sHR00m ... if the release don't works better... wait the next :) |
| 02:37.29 | KaKaRoTo-KS | Thanatermesis: lart means apt will say something "bad" to you... |
| 02:37.31 | KaKaRoTo-KS | apt lart Thanatermesis |
| 02:37.35 | jnymo | e17 |
| 02:37.35 | KaKaRoTo-KS | apt lart me |
| 02:37.43 | KaKaRoTo-KS | :P |
| 02:37.53 | sHR00m | Thanatermesis, i only dont want that a "apt-get upgrade" kills my gui ;) but ok, thats cvs |
| 02:37.59 | jnymo | have a cd here that was burned on windows.. but it looks empty now |
| 02:37.59 | KaKaRoTo-KS | sorry to disturb the seriousness of the channel :$ |
| 02:38.03 | roxville | hello? where is eclair in e17? |
| 02:38.05 | Thanatermesis | the e17 developement its in random mode state, posible better, posible change big parts of the code... etc |
| 02:39.18 | Thanatermesis | ok sHR00m ... Im asking this in the E developement comunity .... ;) |
| 02:39.33 | Thanatermesis | apt disturb KaKaRoTo-KS |
| 02:39.41 | Thanatermesis | apt kill KaKaRoTo-KS |
| 02:39.43 | apt | ACTION shoots a ionized anti-proton gun at KaKaRoTo-KS |
| 02:39.48 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 02:39.52 | KaKaRoTo-KS | xD |
| 02:39.58 | Thanatermesis | apt ignore KaKaRoTo-KS |
| 02:40.00 | apt | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, KaKaRoTo-KS!" |
| 02:40.00 | roxville | good god |
| 02:40.07 | sHR00m | Thanatermesis, no, its an elive problem |
| 02:40.33 | sHR00m | if i build it on cvs, i can make a backup of it and re-install it if a newer build breaks |
| 02:40.45 | Thanatermesis | but Im not posible to test if e17 works good sHR00m ... I don't use e17, I use e16, and I don't know the e17 bugs... etc |
| 02:41.02 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es if i build it on cvs, i can make a backup of it and re-install it if a newer build breaks |
| 02:41.10 | sHR00m | no thats not needed.. only somethink like an "e17-last-working efl-last working" |
| 02:41.32 | Thanatermesis | if you build it on CVS ? Elive packages of E17 works in CVS... from today |
| 02:41.48 | Thanatermesis | Making MD5 files |
| 02:41.48 | Thanatermesis | dpkg-deb: building package `evidence' in `/tmp/evidence_cvs20050921_i386.deb'. |
| 02:42.00 | Dethlin | mount |
| 02:42.02 | jnymo | elive is nice |
| 02:42.09 | roxville | ta-daa! |
| 02:42.20 | jnymo | where can i get more themes for e17? |
| 02:42.28 | roxville | yes it is jnymo |
| 02:42.37 | roxville | jnymo, open synaptic |
| 02:42.48 | Thanatermesis | sHR00m you can't install e17 from CVS, this broke your elive system because you mix the elive EFL libraries and CVS EFL libraries in diferents dirs |
| 02:42.52 | jnymo | oh.. right.. forgot seeing them there |
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| 02:43.02 | Thanatermesis | jnymo apt-cache search e17 theme |
| 02:43.16 | sHR00m | Thanatermesis, i dont want to. but if YOU do and put it in the repository. it could be broken. cause some major changes in the code |
| 02:43.22 | sHR00m | for all users this means: there is no fallback |
| 02:44.51 | roxville | jnymo, i strongly recommend detour |
| 02:45.04 | jnymo | hmm |
| 02:45.16 | roxville | slate is cool too... alittle darker |
| 02:46.21 | roxville | if you like WHITE...milkys |
| 02:46.36 | sHR00m | this version for example works good. could be an fallback version. or any newer, if its working. if something doesnt work, not all users e17 is un-repeadly broken |
| 02:46.51 | sHR00m | so if that happens, all i have to do is apt-get remove e17 and apt-get install e17-fallback |
| 02:48.05 | sHR00m | that happened in the past.. it doesnt must happen in the future but it likely could, maybe for a week or something. this would really suck |
| 02:48.16 | jnymo | roxville: should I get that gtk2-engine thing? |
| 02:48.28 | roxville | Thanatermesis, the dude has a point... |
| 02:48.45 | roxville | yes jnymo , you should |
| 02:49.18 | roxville | sHR00m, if i say it myself...which i will...it's a good idea :) |
| 02:49.55 | roxville | jnymo, the prob is selecting the gtk2 themes in e17...i think |
| 02:50.05 | jnymo | is there a way to increase the font size system wide? |
| 02:50.12 | roxville | see if you can find the theme-switch |
| 02:50.42 | roxville | otherwise, the command is: gtk2theme-switch |
| 02:50.51 | roxville | i think...better try lol |
| 02:51.09 | roxville | nope |
| 02:51.11 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es i dont want to. but if YOU do and put it in the repository. it could be broken. cause some major changes in the code |
| 02:51.47 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, yes sHR00m , you are right |
| 02:52.00 | jnymo | i don't see the theme chooser updated yet. do i need to restart enlightenment? |
| 02:52.14 | Thanatermesis | in any case im not posible to test it, I don't know what about the actual internal work... I need to ask this to the E developers... |
| 02:52.24 | Thanatermesis | jnymo no, read the FAQ of Elive |
| 02:52.37 | roxville | jnymo, it is: gtk-theme-switch2 |
| 02:52.54 | jnymo | k |
| 02:53.09 | sHR00m | Thanatermesis, you dont have to :) |
| 02:53.18 | Thanatermesis | sHR00m mmmh, in any case, all versions of E17 works reasonabely good... works good in a 95 % aproximately of the perfect work... posible increase or decrease a 5 %... |
| 02:53.24 | sHR00m | its not needed, if a fallback version is in the repository |
| 02:53.55 | Thanatermesis | jnymo |
| 02:53.57 | Thanatermesis | http://elivecd.org/gb/Docs/index.html#2 |
| 02:54.09 | roxville | lol, a fall back to the latest un-stable version |
| 02:54.11 | sHR00m | Thanatermesis, sure.. i only dont want that every pc looks like elive 0.1 ;) |
| 02:54.13 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es its not needed, if a fallback version is in the repository |
| 02:54.47 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, in all upgrades, your theme are changed... you need to set to the elive theme :) |
| 02:54.48 | elive-bot | Thanatermesis: for change e17 themes, select one with the command "apt-cache search enlightenment 17 themes", install one and only copy with this line: "cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes" and it will work |
| 02:56.10 | roxville | jnymo, cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes |
| 02:57.42 | sHR00m | °oO(or create a symlink :) |
| 02:57.45 | Thanatermesis | roxville learn to apt, its a good bot ;) |
| 02:58.42 | roxville | ok, i'm learning.. i can shoot you in the ass now :) |
| 02:58.54 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, include this in the panel of control of Elive :) |
| 02:58.57 | roxville | apt lart Thanatermesis |
| 02:59.15 | roxville | :) |
| 02:59.31 | Thanatermesis | for include a theme of e17 in the home of the user.... using Elpanel! :)= |
| 02:59.52 | roxville | yes, that is a good idea |
| 03:00.14 | jnymo | hmm? |
| 03:00.31 | jnymo | oooh.. cp worked :) |
| 03:00.40 | roxville | yep :) |
| 03:01.30 | jnymo | yea... detour is nice |
| 03:03.15 | roxville | detour is like 4 years old...and still rocks |
| 03:03.42 | roxville | a little too flashy, maybe |
| 03:04.13 | jnymo | with the cork background? |
| 03:05.46 | reliver | regarding the wiki, i asked for an update now, if possible. |
| 03:05.54 | reliver | what do you all use for ftp ? |
| 03:06.14 | roxville | cork? it's GOLD, man! |
| 03:06.24 | jnymo | slate is perty |
| 03:09.21 | Thanatermesis | sHR00m , with my ask for its a good moment for upgrade the libs.... |
| 03:09.29 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> if nobody speaks of any problem with cvs, I will understand that it is a good moment to update repository :) |
| 03:09.58 | Thanatermesis | the main developer of e17 says " it's always a good moment :) " |
| 03:11.14 | roxville | reliver, did you insert the link to ELIVE? |
| 03:11.27 | reliver | yes. |
| 03:11.35 | reliver | does it work ? |
| 03:12.44 | roxville | yep, works great! |
| 03:12.58 | roxville | i also included a link to the docs |
| 03:17.41 | roxville | for ftp... gftp is pretty good |
| 03:18.10 | roxville | what, you gonna use sreem or nvu? |
| 03:20.02 | reliver | nvu |
| 03:25.03 | roxville | good idea :) |
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| 03:33.20 | Thanatermesis | roxville you sources.list don't looks good |
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| 03:38.51 | Thanatermesis | apt que hacemos hoy ? |
| 03:38.53 | apt | rumour has it, que hacemos hoy is Elpanel, Elpanel, Elpanel ! :) |
| 03:39.13 | Thanatermesis | mmh, any person have a DVD video for make a test ? |
| 03:41.26 | reliver | yes :-) |
| 03:43.40 | Thanatermesis | if you have time.. install "ogle" and try a DVD video with ogle... look if works good and looks good (dvd menus... etc), or try another programs, for example "eclair", if show the menus etc... Im searching a good program for show DVDs in Elive because mplayer don't have menus |
| 03:43.46 | Thanatermesis | (for dvds) |
| 03:44.25 | reliver | oh, nice :-) |
| 03:45.30 | roxville | Thanatermesis, what would you recommend me to do? |
| 03:46.09 | roxville | i use xine |
| 03:46.56 | Thanatermesis | im not recomend... its my first week with a DVD device :) |
| 03:47.13 | roxville | no, i meant my sources.list |
| 03:47.13 | Thanatermesis | roxville or you speak for your sources.list ? |
| 03:47.16 | Thanatermesis | ah |
| 03:47.21 | Thanatermesis | paste all in www.pastebin.com |
| 03:49.01 | reliver | ogle can0t stat /dev/dvd |
| 03:49.06 | reliver | stupid ogle. |
| 03:50.00 | Thanatermesis | but.. you have the /dev/dvd link created to your dvd device ? |
| 03:50.04 | Thanatermesis | eject /dev/dvd |
| 03:50.24 | reliver | i did not create a link, no, should i ? |
| 03:50.35 | Thanatermesis | this not exist by default in elive 0.3 |
| 03:50.44 | roxville | ok, pasted at pastebin |
| 03:50.51 | Thanatermesis | ln -s /dev/hdd /dev/dvd |
| 03:50.57 | Thanatermesis | or your dvd device to /dev/dvd |
| 03:50.59 | Thanatermesis | roxville link ? |
| 03:51.16 | roxville | http://pastebin.com/370622 |
| 03:53.14 | reliver | is there a way to move the window of the fast file manager around, thanatermesis ? |
| 03:53.30 | roxville | hold alt |
| 03:54.35 | roxville | reliver, do you know about nick auto-completin? |
| 03:54.45 | roxville | completion |
| 03:54.50 | reliver | no, roxville ? |
| 03:55.09 | roxville | ok, type rox, then hit tab |
| 03:55.27 | roxville | ta-daa! |
| 03:56.32 | Thanatermesis | yes, you move the window with the title-bar part of the window reliver ... |
| 03:56.51 | Thanatermesis | or you have set the "fixed position" option in this window? :) |
| 03:57.12 | roxville | prob is Thanatermesis in xfe, it's so far up, you can't reach it |
| 03:57.35 | reliver | exactly. |
| 03:57.43 | roxville | so press alt, grab with mouse, and drag |
| 03:58.04 | reliver | and the main file manager is just so incomplete ... |
| 03:58.29 | roxville | i'm liking evidence more and more |
| 03:59.24 | roxville | tabbed file-browsing is da bomb! |
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| 04:01.22 | Thanatermesis | roxville |
| 04:01.25 | Thanatermesis | http://pastebin.com/370633 |
| 04:01.26 | Thanatermesis | use it |
| 04:01.35 | Thanatermesis | if not, are dangerous for your system Elive |
| 04:01.53 | roxville | ok, thx! |
| 04:02.24 | roxville | danger is my middle name! if you met my daughter, you would understand lol |
| 04:04.18 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 04:06.51 | roxville | Thanatermesis, i know you will ask why..but if i install gnome, would that be seriously bad? |
| 04:07.17 | roxville | all i'm after, is the menu |
| 04:12.22 | sHR00m | hehe |
| 04:12.24 | Thanatermesis | if you used a modified sources.list... |
| 04:12.55 | Thanatermesis | specially if used another versions of debian (for example unstable), or if uses a non-oficial repositorys... you can posible to broke all your packages systemm... |
| 04:13.07 | Thanatermesis | and not posible to install another packages |
| 04:13.18 | Thanatermesis | or look diferents bugs in diferents aplications |
| 04:13.18 | sHR00m | apt-get is wonderful |
| 04:13.30 | roxville | i got it bro, and i'm using the list you gave me |
| 04:13.47 | Thanatermesis | its a posiblity, and normally a effect for long time after.. |
| 04:14.19 | Thanatermesis | better :), after roxville , apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 04:14.48 | roxville | ok! :) |
| 04:17.24 | roxville | call i call you papa even though you are probably 15 years younger than i am? |
| 04:17.34 | roxville | can i |
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| 04:19.25 | Thanatermesis | ~x en es call i call you papa even though you are probably 15 years younger than i am? |
| 04:19.50 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 04:20.14 | reliver | thanatermesis, after the ln, ogle now says: |
| 04:20.29 | reliver | could not open /dev/dvd for reading |
| 04:20.38 | roxville | i just turned 40...last friday...but i have no idea how old you are thana |
| 04:21.00 | roxville | reliver... use the nick completion |
| 04:21.23 | roxville | type thana, hit the TAB key |
| 04:21.47 | reliver | ah, right, roxville :-) |
| 04:22.01 | reliver | that's how they write them so fast ... |
| 04:22.13 | roxville | yep :) |
| 04:22.17 | reliver | thanks for the reminder. |
| 04:22.26 | reliver | trying to do too much at once. |
| 04:22.40 | roxville | np, it's a life saver with pr0t0cod7 and those guys |
| 04:23.59 | reliver | ah, yes pr0t0cod7 actually complained when i typed his nickname wrong ... |
| 04:23.59 | Thanatermesis | reliver try with root |
| 04:24.54 | reliver | works with menus, Thanatermesis. |
| 04:25.04 | Thanatermesis | but looks good ? |
| 04:25.21 | Thanatermesis | its bad look eye-candy, yes? :/ |
| 04:25.24 | reliver | well, can i try as normal user too ? |
| 04:25.42 | Thanatermesis | you need privilegies |
| 04:25.44 | Thanatermesis | im not sure |
| 04:25.50 | Thanatermesis | posible "adduser reliver cdrom" |
| 04:28.15 | reliver | it is... |
| 04:28.34 | Thanatermesis | works ? |
| 04:28.40 | reliver | ogle fills my terminal with error messages, even though i called ogle& |
| 04:29.02 | Thanatermesis | with root ? |
| 04:29.38 | reliver | and there are no menus, no progress bar, no right-click menu ... |
| 04:29.45 | reliver | yes. |
| 04:31.39 | Thanatermesis | strange... with root works, but not have menus and another ? |
| 04:40.05 | reliver | trying with others. |
| 04:44.00 | roxville | guys, i'm going to bed. see you tomorrow! |
| 04:44.07 | roxville | good night :) |
| 04:44.10 | Thanatermesis | yes... Im same... |
| 04:44.17 | Thanatermesis | good night roxville |
| 04:45.20 | reliver | thanatermesis, now i can not play the dvd with xine, and not with vlc ... |
| 04:46.14 | Thanatermesis | not works with xine ? o_O |
| 04:48.00 | reliver | need a new elive install :-) |
| 04:48.46 | Thanatermesis | why ? |
| 04:49.02 | reliver | i don't know, or is that normal ? |
| 04:49.21 | Thanatermesis | what normal ? xine doesn't play DVD ? |
| 04:49.34 | Thanatermesis | normally xine plays DVDs... but I don't know how :) |
| 04:49.39 | Thanatermesis | im not use it |
| 04:49.46 | reliver | it says: no input plugin to handle dvd |
| 04:50.15 | reliver | it says: no input plugin to handle dvd:/ |
| 04:50.30 | reliver | ok. |
| 04:50.55 | Thanatermesis | mmmh apt-cache show xine-ui | grep uggest |
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| 04:55.59 | Thanatermesis | reliver you have the "libdvdcss2" package installed ? |
| 04:56.29 | reliver | sorry, i suddenly had a totally exotic keyboard layout :-) |
| 04:57.17 | Thanatermesis | oh, Im looking streaming TV with gxine :) |
| 04:57.31 | Thanatermesis | what "xine" you have installed reliver ? gxine ? |
| 04:58.47 | reliver | no, it was not installed, thank you :-) |
| 04:59.31 | reliver | but still same error message: second line is: |
| 04:59.57 | reliver | maybe MRL syntax is wrong or file/stream source doesn't exist. |
| 05:00.59 | reliver | 0.99.3 |
| 05:01.14 | reliver | xine |
| 05:02.51 | Thanatermesis | or the device bad configured ? |
| 05:02.59 | reliver | can't open /dev/dvd for reading |
| 05:03.10 | Thanatermesis | launch with root :) |
| 05:03.27 | reliver | you give me bad habits ... |
| 05:03.51 | Thanatermesis | hehe, you are testing... is very probable to you dont have permisions.... |
| 05:03.53 | reliver | can't open display. |
| 05:04.01 | reliver | typical for root, right ? |
| 05:04.02 | Thanatermesis | can't open /dev/dvd for reading <--- and messages shows this |
| 05:04.08 | Thanatermesis | posible |
| 05:04.13 | Thanatermesis | with your user: |
| 05:04.17 | Thanatermesis | xhost + |
| 05:04.50 | reliver | still the same. |
| 05:05.03 | reliver | did we have to do this from single user mode ? |
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| 05:05.17 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 05:05.21 | Thanatermesis | chmod 777 /dev/dvd |
| 05:05.35 | Thanatermesis | and try with user |
| 05:06.13 | Elive_user | man, this is nice |
| 05:06.24 | reliver | ah, genie, it's working now :-) |
| 05:06.29 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 05:07.40 | reliver | i'm not a good tester, i get bad quality in both players: video too slow. |
| 05:08.21 | Thanatermesis | with dvd ? strange... slow machine ? |
| 05:09.09 | reliver | yes, surprising, i think i did not have that much video performance problems on mandriva. |
| 05:09.24 | Thanatermesis | strange |
| 05:09.29 | reliver | cheap integrated video, but new computer from 2005. |
| 05:09.38 | Thanatermesis | try: gmplayer dvd://1 |
| 05:10.12 | Thanatermesis | try: gmplayer -vo x11 dvd://1 |
| 05:10.16 | Thanatermesis | try: gmplayer -vo xv dvd://1 |
| 05:10.19 | Thanatermesis | try diferents combinations |
| 05:11.34 | reliver | too many video packets in the buffer, sound falls silent. |
| 05:12.09 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, strange... post it in the #mplayer channel, for look "what define this message" |
| 05:12.54 | Thanatermesis | wow, 7:15 AM... I need go to the bed, I need wake up in 9:30 AM |
| 05:14.00 | reliver | oh my gods ... |
| 05:14.27 | reliver | are you killing yourself ;?) |
| 05:14.47 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es yourself |
| 05:14.58 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 05:14.58 | reliver | te mismo |
| 05:15.08 | reliver | no hehe, durma bien :-) |
| 05:15.10 | Thanatermesis | its my "habitual" life :) |
| 05:15.23 | reliver | so necesitas de 3 horas para dormir ? |
| 05:15.40 | Thanatermesis | normally 5 or 6 |
| 05:15.48 | reliver | ah. hm. |
| 05:16.00 | reliver | gracias y hasta luego. |
| 05:16.05 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 05:16.06 | Thanatermesis | hasta luego |
| 05:16.09 | Thanatermesis | 'night all |
| 05:17.46 | Thanatermesis | '--==(~)==--> despertar |
| 05:17.46 | Thanatermesis | Horas? 3 |
| 05:17.46 | Thanatermesis | Minutos? 1 |
| 05:17.46 | Thanatermesis | Has elegido 10860 segundos |
| 05:17.53 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 05:18.01 | reliver | ? |
| 05:18.25 | reliver | hal te esta despertiendo ? |
| 05:18.44 | Thanatermesis | si |
| 05:18.53 | reliver | bien :-) |
| 05:18.58 | Thanatermesis | cuando pase ese tiempo, estara la musica fuerte para despertarme :) |
| 05:19.14 | reliver | :) |
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| 05:47.39 | sinplomo | hi |
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| 06:44.01 | Elive_user | elferrer |
| 06:44.07 | eshep | hi Elive_user |
| 06:44.15 | Elive_user | hola |
| 06:44.42 | eshep | apt x en es Elive_user, do you like elive? |
| 06:45.05 | Elive_user | si, acabo de instalar elive |
| 06:45.23 | eshep | apt x es en si, acabo de instalar elive |
| 06:46.28 | eshep | apt x en es it should install quite quickly |
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| 09:08.08 | _H_ | thanatermesis estas? |
| 09:10.45 | Thanatermesis | si |
| 09:10.48 | Thanatermesis | pero me voy en nada |
| 09:11.33 | _H_ | vale, puedo darle tu email a alguien que quiere preguntarte sobre el escritorio del elive? |
| 09:12.00 | Thanatermesis | bueno |
| 09:12.04 | _H_ | :) |
| 09:12.04 | Thanatermesis | thanatermesis.elive .... |
| 09:12.08 | _H_ | venga, hasta luego |
| 09:12.15 | _H_ | ejem |
| 09:12.17 | _H_ | cual era? |
| 09:12.31 | _H_ | entre thanatermesis y elive hay arroba? |
| 09:12.38 | _H_ | lo tengo tu email? |
| 09:12.49 | _H_ | si, lo tengo |
| 09:12.56 | _H_ | en gmail |
| 09:13.02 | _H_ | y con el punto |
| 09:13.03 | _H_ | see u |
| 09:13.09 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 09:13.11 | Thanatermesis | hasta luego |
| 10:30.59 | eshep | Thanatermesis, hows it goin? |
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| 11:14.19 | cocozz | hi/hola/salut |
| 11:51.30 | roxville | *yyyaaaaawwwwnnn* |
| 11:53.59 | eshep | mornin |
| 12:04.04 | roxville | evening eshep |
| 12:04.43 | eshep | did that yawn knock ya back to sleep? |
| 12:04.52 | roxville | took the day off from this hell-hole? |
| 12:05.05 | eshep | me too, still sick |
| 12:05.14 | roxville | re-liver was waiting for you all night |
| 12:05.38 | roxville | i'm sorry dude, really am |
| 12:06.04 | eshep | tell him im sorry, i was really out of it today |
| 12:06.09 | roxville | i didn't wanna set his nick alarm off lol |
| 12:06.25 | eshep | aha |
| 12:06.54 | eshep | and i had to drive about 40min to the damn docter |
| 12:07.18 | roxville | what he say? |
| 12:07.33 | roxville | "yoo neeed to eat ginger!" |
| 12:07.51 | roxville | eshep-san |
| 12:08.00 | eshep | lol |
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| 12:11.23 | roxville | it's not salmonella or anything, is it? |
| 12:12.59 | eshep | naa, im feelin better now. hopefully i can go to work tomorrow |
| 12:13.14 | eshep | i got craploads of work to do |
| 12:13.31 | roxville | i don't usually make fun of how the japanese speak engrish (oops), but when i was there, we had this dude who REALLY didn't like that we were there. but he had to show us around, and he had to be polite |
| 12:13.58 | roxville | so he was OVERLY polite...showing his contempt that way |
| 12:14.03 | roxville | it was horrible |
| 12:14.16 | eshep | a japanese dude? |
| 12:14.22 | roxville | yea |
| 12:14.48 | roxville | he was the only one though, the rest were wonderful |
| 12:15.41 | roxville | and his english was really bad too "preez, stoppa hier" |
| 12:16.18 | eshep | there disgustingly polite to "cutomers" |
| 12:17.02 | eshep | fix: customers |
| 12:19.17 | roxville | no, this was different, we were not his customers |
| 12:19.46 | eshep | i use that just as a generalization |
| 12:20.16 | eshep | wo thts a big word :' |
| 12:20.19 | roxville | i was working with the mentally disabled at the time.. playing in a rock band as kind of musical therapy |
| 12:20.59 | roxville | the band leader was japanese, so he set up a tour..we went all over japan )except okinawa) in 5 weeks |
| 12:21.37 | roxville | there were organizations same as ours helping us |
| 12:21.46 | roxville | he belonged to one of those |
| 12:22.20 | eshep | cool |
| 12:22.59 | roxville | yea, i quit after that tour, coz i was sooo burned out, but they went back to japan 2-3 times after i quit |
| 12:23.34 | eshep | sucks ya missed the trips, eh |
| 12:23.40 | roxville | i wanted to go too, for the girls |
| 12:23.57 | roxville | and the food...mostly the girls though lol |
| 12:25.22 | eshep | yeah, i hear ya |
| 12:25.45 | roxville | we also went to moscow (just before the wall came down) and trinidad , for some reason. that was cool too |
| 12:28.25 | roxville | in japan it was so cool to be so exotic...when i came back home, i went downton stockholm..i remember thinking "why aren't they looking at me?" |
| 12:28.39 | roxville | lol |
| 12:29.07 | roxville | anyway, have you seen the elpanel video? |
| 12:29.32 | eshep | nope, where is it? |
| 12:30.13 | roxville | i guess i can send it to you, hold on |
| 12:30.34 | eshep | fire away bro |
| 12:33.01 | roxville | thana said last night "ok it starting to look really cool...now i gotta figure out what it should do!" |
| 12:37.28 | roxville | eshep? i'm sending... where'd you go? |
| 12:37.36 | roxville | ok |
| 12:38.09 | eshep | sorry dude, phone agro |
| 12:38.25 | roxville | i thought it timed out again |
| 12:38.32 | roxville | gotcha |
| 12:39.31 | roxville | thana is cool. first he works on the fx. then he thinks about what to do with the app |
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| 12:46.23 | eshep | damn, *crash|crash|crash* |
| 12:46.35 | eshep | damn evidence |
| 12:50.10 | roxville | yeah, it's horrible |
| 12:51.39 | Thanatermesis | no ! |
| 12:51.44 | eshep | whens IT gonna get updated....:) |
| 12:51.47 | Thanatermesis | evidence don't crash :) |
| 12:51.54 | eshep | you lie! |
| 12:52.09 | Thanatermesis | and I have maked a new feature for the launcher... if crash, show this message: |
| 12:52.19 | eshep | i just had 12 crashes in a row |
| 12:52.38 | Thanatermesis | Oh! your Evidence is crashed and you have obtained the CORE file! This is good, please send this file to the Elive developement or use the IRC channel for contact Elive comunity, this is good for debug Evidence, your core file are located in your HOME dir |
| 12:52.49 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 12:53.12 | Thanatermesis | eshep upgrade your "efl-all" package for upgrade evidence... if crash, send me the core file :) |
| 12:53.33 | eshep | i think it was a mount that i lost connection to that killed it |
| 12:53.47 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es i think it was a mount that i lost connection to that killed it |
| 12:54.00 | Thanatermesis | try |
| 12:54.05 | Thanatermesis | apt-get update && apt-get install efl-all |
| 12:54.11 | Thanatermesis | this upgrade your evidence ;) |
| 12:54.22 | Thanatermesis | but look the version, needs to are of the "21" day |
| 12:54.32 | pr0t0cod7 | Thanatermesis: O_o |
| 12:54.45 | pr0t0cod7 | apt-get install evidence plutot non ? |
| 12:55.21 | eshep | i cant pkill evidence.origin |
| 12:55.23 | eshep | wtf? |
| 12:55.24 | roxville | apt x en es Thanatermesis , it sounds like you are congratulating him for evidence chrashing lol |
| 12:55.27 | Thanatermesis | yes, its the same effect, evidence needs to efl-all exact version dependence, and with this, all efl aplications are upgraded |
| 12:55.41 | Thanatermesis | if upgrade efl-all package, all efl aplications are upgraded :) |
| 12:56.04 | eshep | cool idea, thats why we like you |
| 12:56.04 | Thanatermesis | eshep killall -9 evidence.original |
| 12:56.10 | Thanatermesis | oh, original <---- |
| 12:56.14 | Thanatermesis | originAL |
| 12:56.27 | eshep | aha, no crap huh |
| 12:56.49 | eshep | that damn ps -e shorts em |
| 12:57.08 | Thanatermesis | roxville yes, because I have tried (and another persons), to obtain a crash for debug evidence but not are posible... no posible to crash :) |
| 12:59.09 | roxville | yes Thanatermesis this is why we like you...your ideas are great |
| 12:59.51 | eshep | Thanatermesis, evidence still wont die :\ |
| 13:00.21 | eshep | vobcopy.org is running kinda slow |
| 13:00.32 | eshep | 24k |
| 13:00.47 | eshep | i usually pull at over 250 |
| 13:01.17 | roxville | that's coz i'm doing it too lol |
| 13:01.35 | eshep | quit hoggin |
| 13:01.43 | roxville | hehe |
| 13:01.51 | roxville | i'm done |
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| 13:02.22 | eshep | Thanatermesis, my evidence.origin has a <defunct> after it |
| 13:02.26 | eshep | whats that? |
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| 13:02.50 | eshep | wow, now im up to 40k |
| 13:03.16 | roxville | lol |
| 13:04.00 | Thanatermesis | eshep killall -9 evidence.original |
| 13:04.19 | eshep | dont work |
| 13:04.23 | Thanatermesis | eshep what are the version of your evidence upgrade ? |
| 13:04.29 | Thanatermesis | apt-cache policy evidence |
| 13:04.56 | eshep | Installed: cvs20050907 |
| 13:04.57 | eshep | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:05.13 | roxville | and all he wanted to do, was to see elpanel in action... |
| 13:05.21 | Thanatermesis | perfect :) |
| 13:05.32 | eshep | see, its all yer fault roxville |
| 13:05.37 | pr0t0cod7 | i download over 720k/s on vobcopy.. i don't think it's slow ;) |
| 13:05.45 | Thanatermesis | roxville the before night I have done a lot of good ideas for Elpanel ;) |
| 13:06.15 | eshep | yeah, im just bitchin cause e17 hasnt been nice to me all day |
| 13:06.24 | roxville | pr0t0cod7, it's slow coz you are hogging it! |
| 13:06.28 | Thanatermesis | pr0t0cod7 oh, I need to use TEXTBLOCK for Elpanel... looks prety nice and very good for make edje texts :) |
| 13:06.30 | roxville | :) |
| 13:06.42 | pr0t0cod7 | hehe :) |
| 13:06.55 | Thanatermesis | eshep Im not sure, but are posible to you look a more stability in all related E libs/programs :) |
| 13:06.56 | roxville | Thanatermesis, your ideas just keep pouring out, don't they? |
| 13:07.03 | pr0t0cod7 | Thanatermesis: yes did you see the new e17 about box ? :) |
| 13:07.20 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es your ideas just keep pouring out, don't they? |
| 13:07.57 | Thanatermesis | roxville hehe, for this moments are only ideas... in my mind.. after i need to look or try if are posible, and if yes, after all people look and use this :) |
| 13:08.11 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es yes did you see the new e17 about box ? |
| 13:08.18 | eshep | the aardvarks? |
| 13:08.21 | roxville | eshep, never mind e17, use e16 like the rest of the geeks! |
| 13:08.26 | Thanatermesis | yes pr0t0cod7 , the "about" of enlightenment :) |
| 13:08.45 | pr0t0cod7 | Thanatermesis: did you see it? |
| 13:08.52 | eshep | roxville, i was just seeing how long i could go with e17 |
| 13:08.53 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es did you see it? |
| 13:09.14 | roxville | eshep, sure, sure... |
| 13:09.16 | Thanatermesis | yes pr0t0cod7 , looks nice, uses a little of textblock, you have looked ? or I prepair a shot ? :) |
| 13:09.48 | pr0t0cod7 | Thanatermesis: i just compiled all efl/e17 yesterday ;) |
| 13:10.21 | Thanatermesis | bah, I make a fast shot for all ppl of the channel :) |
| 13:11.07 | roxville | lol |
| 13:11.50 | roxville | holding on even |
| 13:12.37 | roxville | i have invented a new word!! |
| 13:13.21 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/nada-borrar9.jpg <--- new about of this upgrade of e17 |
| 13:13.21 | Thanatermesis | pr0t0cod7 |
| 13:14.50 | pr0t0cod7 | Thanatermesis: te he dicho que he compilado las efls/e17, lo tengo tambien el "about" :p |
| 13:15.00 | Thanatermesis | hehe, ok ok |
| 13:15.11 | roxville | yay! N.I.C.E! |
| 13:15.11 | Thanatermesis | Im understand "only compile, not time to test" O:) |
| 13:15.28 | eshep | perty |
| 13:16.21 | eshep | im so behind the times using 0.16.999.013 |
| 13:16.28 | eshep | i gotta get up to speed |
| 13:16.39 | roxville | because of elive, are they working harder on getting e17 ready? |
| 13:16.47 | roxville | lol eshep |
| 13:17.48 | eshep | apt x en es Thanatermesis: i dont think its the recommended way to kill an app, but upgrading did it |
| 13:17.50 | eshep | thanks |
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| 13:20.23 | Thanatermesis | kill ----> -9 <--- = kill sure :) |
| 13:21.13 | pr0t0cod7 | roxville: no i don't think so, they don't care, they are doing it, i takes the time it take, they don't hurry, making it as a spare time, "it will be released when it's ready, it will be ready when it's released" as they said :) |
| 13:22.37 | roxville | pr0t0cod7, i still think they'll get a little busier when ppl start breathing down their necks |
| 13:22.52 | roxville | either they'll love or hate elive for it |
| 13:23.00 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@pcp780317pcs.gnscrp01.va.comcast.net) |
| 13:23.05 | pr0t0cod7 | lol |
| 13:23.31 | roxville | lol |
| 13:24.52 | pr0t0cod7 | raster “Let there be light" |
| 13:25.02 | roxville | yep |
| 13:25.03 | pr0t0cod7 | and there was enlightenemnt |
| 13:25.21 | eshep | .014 is a little flashier |
| 13:25.37 | roxville | in this case, it sucks a little that e is not GPL |
| 13:26.12 | eshep | they need to get the bugs out right now and work on flashy stuff later |
| 13:26.24 | pr0t0cod7 | eshep: what bugs? |
| 13:26.36 | roxville | but i really like e16, so i'm not complaining |
| 13:26.49 | eshep | e17 is perty enough at this point |
| 13:26.50 | roxville | yes eshep |
| 13:27.34 | eshep | pr0t0cod7: im sorry, did i say bugs? |
| 13:27.41 | eshep | i meant wrenches |
| 13:27.44 | roxville | lol |
| 13:27.52 | pr0t0cod7 | :p |
| 13:28.14 | reliver | they are speaking their heart here, nice :-) |
| 13:28.17 | reliver | hello all :-) |
| 13:28.30 | roxville | hi reliver , how's it going today? |
| 13:28.52 | roxville | any snow in the mountains yet? |
| 13:28.53 | eshep | howdy reliver |
| 13:29.03 | reliver | i am more tired everyday with this hard mattress ... |
| 13:29.17 | eshep | sleep on the floor |
| 13:29.41 | reliver | oh did not have time to look yet, roxville :) |
| 13:29.55 | reliver | eshep you want to train me ? |
| 13:30.18 | eshep | nah |
| 13:30.29 | reliver | or you want me *under* the floor ;?) |
| 13:30.44 | eshep | reliver, where are you anyway? |
| 13:31.05 | reliver | trying not to fall off my chair :-) |
| 13:31.07 | eshep | i just thought it might be softer than your matress |
| 13:31.14 | reliver | why ? ;-) |
| 13:31.40 | eshep | just curious :) |
| 13:31.51 | roxville | reliver lives in swiyzerland |
| 13:31.57 | reliver | ah, yes. |
| 13:32.08 | roxville | or switzerland, i can't remember which |
| 13:32.24 | reliver | excactly ;) |
| 13:33.00 | eshep | roxville: h u n t a n d p e c k |
| 13:33.02 | roxville | NOT to be confused with sweden....almost all americans mix 'em up |
| 13:33.07 | reliver | actually schwyz is the core state. |
| 13:33.49 | reliver | hunt, eshep ? |
| 13:34.00 | reliver | something brewing ? |
| 13:34.39 | eshep | hunt-and-peck=typing with one finger from each hand |
| 13:34.53 | reliver | ah, right. |
| 13:35.05 | roxville | yea...that pretty much how i still do it |
| 13:35.11 | reliver | roxville switched keyboard layout ... |
| 13:35.57 | roxville | i only switch when i have to use swedish characters |
| 13:36.08 | reliver | ah. |
| 13:36.49 | eshep | speaking of switching layouts roxville |
| 13:37.10 | eshep | thats how i lost my _ key before |
| 13:37.25 | eshep | anthy/scim killed it |
| 13:40.31 | roxville | i lost my _ key too. coz i have a cheapo walmart keyboard |
| 13:40.41 | roxville | then, it reappeared |
| 13:41.14 | eshep | cheapo? |
| 13:41.21 | eshep | only four fingers? |
| 13:41.23 | roxville | $9 |
| 13:42.22 | roxville | even if i used my toes to type, i still want all the keys to work |
| 13:42.36 | eshep | i wish i could have found a usb one like that a couple of weeks ago |
| 13:43.14 | roxville | i wish i found an imac G5 |
| 13:43.31 | eshep | i got my new work laptop. and what do you know. no friggin ps2 port :] |
| 13:43.45 | roxville | but then, of course, i couldn't run elive |
| 13:44.06 | roxville | no ps2? finally! |
| 13:44.07 | eshep | they got em over here for just a little over 1k$ |
| 13:44.23 | Elive_user | hi all |
| 13:44.37 | eshep | hi Elive_user |
| 13:45.03 | Elive_user | i figured i had lurked long enough this am |
| 13:45.55 | roxville | lol |
| 13:46.08 | Elive_user | : ) |
| 13:46.11 | roxville | what are you, the fairy god mother? |
| 13:46.24 | eshep | so, are ya likin elive? |
| 13:46.25 | roxville | three wishes, right? |
| 13:46.41 | eshep | but only on at a time |
| 13:46.46 | Elive_user | sure -- i had a small networking hiccup tho |
| 13:47.16 | Elive_user | it knocked me off line for most of yesterday |
| 13:47.27 | roxville | hmm on installed or run from cd? |
| 13:47.38 | Elive_user | installed on hd |
| 13:47.58 | roxville | ahhh, it was the actual network? or was it elive |
| 13:48.12 | Elive_user | it was the networking in debian |
| 13:48.21 | roxville | well we're happy you got it taken care of :) |
| 13:48.49 | Elive_user | elive/debian forgot about one of my ethernet ports |
| 13:49.00 | Elive_user | eth2 -- my pc card wifi |
| 13:49.25 | eshep | my whako prism54 card has been runin like a champ |
| 13:49.27 | roxville | va...yer not too far away from me... closer tha eshep and the rest anyway |
| 13:49.59 | eshep | i dont think im close to any of yall |
| 13:50.20 | roxville | well eshep, the y'all brings you right back! lol |
| 13:50.41 | Elive_user | elive forgets my network settings when i reboot -- which file should i put them in? |
| 13:50.53 | eshep | i cant forget where im from |
| 13:51.22 | roxville | not where you are |
| 13:52.03 | eshep | Elive_user: just make a little script to turn it on |
| 13:52.11 | eshep | and set everyhting |
| 13:52.41 | Elive_user | could you elaborate? |
| 13:53.06 | eshep | just a minute... |
| 13:55.08 | Elive_user | what is that? |
| 13:56.05 | eshep | ifconfig eth0 up |
| 13:56.06 | eshep | iwconfig eth0 key abcd1234ef567890aaaa222200 essid knowhere |
| 13:56.06 | eshep | dhclient eth0 |
| 13:56.06 | eshep | wait 3 |
| 13:56.06 | eshep | echo search knowhere > /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:56.06 | eshep | echo nameserver 1.1.1.1 >> /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:56.10 | eshep | echo nameserver 1.1.1.2 >> /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:56.42 | eshep | you might have to tweak it a little |
| 13:57.28 | roxville | eshep, you are the king! |
| 13:57.40 | Elive_user | what do i name the script, and how do i make it execute? |
| 13:57.57 | eshep | name it what you want |
| 13:58.27 | eshep | #/bin/bash filename |
| 14:02.19 | eshep | roxville, you mean Kid Is No Good? |
| 14:02.48 | roxville | lol, no man, you are da bomb! |
| 14:02.48 | Elive_user | do i need to be root to do this? |
| 14:03.26 | eshep | probably, i do |
| 14:03.53 | eshep | thanks roxville, i only wish i were as good as people think i am |
| 14:04.18 | roxville | but you are! |
| 14:04.33 | eshep | i have a really good friend that tells me all the secrets |
| 14:04.38 | roxville | your best quality is that you learn fast, and don't give up |
| 14:04.49 | eshep | maybe youve met him |
| 14:04.55 | eshep | his name is |
| 14:04.55 | roxville | you have a very structured way of looking at stuff |
| 14:04.58 | eshep | google |
| 14:04.59 | elive-bot | eshep: http://www.google.com |
| 14:05.18 | eshep | thanks dude |
| 14:05.27 | roxville | yes, i've met him a couple times |
| 14:05.28 | eshep | i do what i can |
| 14:05.45 | roxville | that's anyone can do, man |
| 14:05.48 | eshep | he seems to just know damn near everyhting |
| 14:07.23 | *** join/#elive Elive_user2 (n=Elive_us@84.4.25.12) |
| 14:07.26 | roxville | "Look son, I don't wanna blow sunshine up yer ass, but good pilots are hard to come by" |
| 14:07.41 | *** part/#elive Elive_user2 (n=Elive_us@84.4.25.12) |
| 14:07.54 | eshep | guess he didnt like the quote |
| 14:08.01 | roxville | lol |
| 14:08.21 | roxville | my fav line from Top Gun |
| 14:09.13 | roxville | brb |
| 14:09.42 | eshep | ok, i gotta hit the sack dude |
| 14:09.53 | eshep | ill see ya tomorrow |
| 14:10.33 | reliver | sleep well eshep. |
| 14:10.52 | reliver | right now i am in contact with the tikiwiki specialist again :-) |
| 14:10.59 | reliver | i am so relieved ... |
| 14:11.07 | eshep | awesome |
| 14:11.19 | Elive_user | exit |
| 14:11.34 | eshep | hopefully my matress isnt too hard |
| 14:11.39 | eshep | if so |
| 14:11.54 | eshep | ill just get a new mistress |
| 14:11.59 | eshep | matress |
| 14:12.09 | eshep | g'night all |
| 14:15.03 | roxville | lol |
| 14:15.08 | roxville | night bubba |
| 14:17.37 | roxville | gotta go to the store, bbs |
| 14:24.38 | reliver | thanatermesis, hello, what is the most beautiful logo of Elive you have ? |
| 14:26.17 | Thanatermesis | hi reliver |
| 14:26.28 | Thanatermesis | posible this: www.elive.xasein.com/screenshots.html |
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| 14:27.41 | Elive_user | thanks eshep -- with a few tweaks your script worked |
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| 14:32.36 | Elive_user2 | helllo is there a way i can install e17 on my debian? using the live cd. |
| 14:36.31 | Elive_user | if you boot from the cd - choose hard drive install from the mcp |
| 14:37.18 | Elive_user | mcp is the elive control panel |
| 14:37.39 | Elive_user2 | yeah but i wanna use e17 as a wm on my debian.. |
| 14:38.15 | Elive_user2 | not as a new os. |
| 14:38.28 | Elive_user | oh -- i misunderstood. |
| 14:38.36 | Elive_user2 | no worries:) |
| 14:38.53 | Elive_user | u need to compile it from source -- go to get-e.org and there are instructions |
| 14:39.23 | Elive_user2 | i dont think that will be easy..im newbie:s |
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| 14:42.08 | sceptiQ | Elive_user2, look at /etc/apt/sources.lst |
| 14:42.45 | Elive_user2 | sceptiQ, what about it? |
| 14:45.31 | sceptiQ | the sources 4 the e17 stuff |
| 14:45.35 | sceptiQ | aerm |
| 14:45.38 | sceptiQ | binarys |
| 14:45.53 | sceptiQ | if u take them and put it in yours, u can use it |
| 14:46.13 | Elive_user2 | for example? |
| 14:46.23 | sceptiQ | apt-get enlightenment |
| 14:46.26 | sceptiQ | arm |
| 14:46.29 | sceptiQ | apt-get install |
| 14:46.33 | Elive_user2 | well if u se that |
| 14:46.52 | Elive_user2 | if i * then it installs e16 |
| 14:46.59 | Elive_user2 | cos its till cvs |
| 14:47.09 | Elive_user2 | still* |
| 14:49.24 | sceptiQ | oh dman |
| 14:49.35 | sceptiQ | you shuld read what i write |
| 14:49.44 | sceptiQ | look at /etc/apt/sources.lst in elive |
| 14:49.51 | sceptiQ | take the lines 2 your denain |
| 14:49.56 | sceptiQ | apt-get update |
| 14:50.23 | Elive_user2 | will it work? |
| 14:50.25 | Elive_user2 | let me try |
| 14:50.28 | Elive_user2 | to my other pc |
| 14:55.55 | Elive_user2 | i think its working :o i did apt-get install e17 and its dling packages |
| 14:56.29 | sceptiQ | ;) |
| 14:56.49 | Elive_user2 | thank you |
| 14:56.52 | Elive_user2 | :) |
| 14:57.18 | sceptiQ | 3,5$ |
| 14:57.24 | sceptiQ | ;þ |
| 14:57.33 | Elive_user2 | haha too bad i only have euro |
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| 15:13.05 | Elive_user2 | back |
| 15:13.40 | Elive_user2 | Thanatermesis |
| 15:13.45 | Elive_user2 | I have a bug report |
| 15:14.28 | Elive_user2 | network connectivity is lost after a period of inactivity |
| 15:15.01 | Elive_user2 | using default entries in the /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 15:15.12 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 15:15.17 | Thanatermesis | in installed system ? |
| 15:15.30 | Elive_user2 | yes |
| 15:16.00 | Elive_user2 | i also have random freezes on the Elive essence st-2 app |
| 15:16.01 | Thanatermesis | your file /etc/network/interfaces looks good ? |
| 15:16.18 | Elive_user2 | No more sound out of it -- and it sits frozen on my desktop |
| 15:16.27 | Thanatermesis | IMHO its a persona problem with your conection, I use internet and Elive 24 hr and not have this problem... and no same reports |
| 15:16.43 | Thanatermesis | yes, the stream are changed |
| 15:16.55 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, mientes |
| 15:16.58 | Thanatermesis | upgrade your .e and .e16 dirs with elive-skel and it works now |
| 15:16.58 | sinplomo | ayer me rulo :) |
| 15:17.05 | sinplomo | cuando buildeaba el modulo |
| 15:17.10 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo lo cualo ? |
| 15:17.12 | Elive_user2 | could you tell me what the default entries are in your /etc/network/interface |
| 15:17.31 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2 paste it in www.pastebin.com |
| 15:18.02 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, el elive-essence |
| 15:18.20 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo mmmh, va como va... de todas formas cambió :) |
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| 15:19.09 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, :**** |
| 15:20.11 | Rasko|nikov | se sinplomo |
| 15:20.24 | Rasko|nikov | acabo de conseguir q el alfa de las texturas se vea bien en opengl |
| 15:20.36 | sinplomo | a ver |
| 15:20.38 | Rasko|nikov | y tb acabo de modificar el sfontmaker, a ver si el autor acepta mis colaboraciones |
| 15:20.39 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 15:20.46 | sinplomo | tu le dabas a opengl |
| 15:20.46 | Elive_user2 | ok -- interface file sent |
| 15:20.47 | Rasko|nikov | de a ver nada x |
| 15:20.49 | Rasko|nikov | D |
| 15:20.49 | sinplomo | o al sdl ? |
| 15:20.53 | sinplomo | xD |
| 15:20.53 | Rasko|nikov | si, algo le doy sinplomo |
| 15:20.57 | Rasko|nikov | aunq no mucho |
| 15:21.05 | Rasko|nikov | sdl mas |
| 15:21.13 | Rasko|nikov | aunq opengl lo uso encima de sdl |
| 15:21.25 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, tu eres cabaz de crear un cubo girando en sdl ? |
| 15:21.30 | Rasko|nikov | es decir, sdl te gestiona el 2d, y el 3d se lo presta al ogl |
| 15:21.32 | sinplomo | ( Thanatermesis necesitaba uno xD ) |
| 15:21.51 | Rasko|nikov | aunq mi genial libreria SDL_GL2D gestiona 2d en opengl, pa conseguir ultravelocidades |
| 15:21.59 | Rasko|nikov | sinplomo, ya tngo uno xD |
| 15:22.16 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, why do you don't share it with the world ? |
| 15:22.17 | sinplomo | xD |
| 15:22.18 | Rasko|nikov | no te acuerdas de mi 3ddice? |
| 15:22.20 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo pero si ya tengo el cubo terminado, funcionando y girando :) |
| 15:22.39 | Rasko|nikov | Thanatermesis, como lo has hecho? |
| 15:22.42 | Rasko|nikov | y pa q lo quieres? |
| 15:22.48 | Thanatermesis | Rasko|nikov lo hizo otra persona, con blender xD |
| 15:22.50 | sinplomo | 3ddice <= no lo conozco |
| 15:23.11 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, pasa el SDL_GL2D ( que algun dia me sera util ) |
| 15:23.16 | Thanatermesis | Rasko|nikov para eso lo quiero xDD |
| 15:23.32 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo eso me suena a mi que es una lib xD |
| 15:24.03 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, ya |
| 15:24.03 | sinplomo | xD |
| 15:25.47 | Rasko|nikov | sinplomo, otro dia la depuro un poco y te la paso |
| 15:25.51 | Rasko|nikov | o incluso la cuelo |
| 15:25.55 | Rasko|nikov | que ahora está muy chapucera |
| 15:26.32 | Rasko|nikov | Thanatermesis, la he hecho yo |
| 15:26.45 | Rasko|nikov | gracias a ella luciferino y sdljump tienen opengl xD |
| 15:27.07 | Rasko|nikov | en realidad la utilizo en conjunto con otro archivo |
| 15:27.24 | Rasko|nikov | tengo pensao empaquetarlo todo en un futuro como una libreria de soporte a SDL al estilo de SDL_gfx |
| 15:27.33 | Thanatermesis | mola |
| 15:27.38 | Thanatermesis | Rasko|nikov recibiste mi link ? |
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| 15:27.59 | Rasko|nikov | bueno, en realidad no libreria exactamente, porque no tngo pensao pa q se pueda acer linkado dinamico sino sencillamente pa incluir el archivo en tu proyecto y modificarlo si hace falta, como el SFont |
| 15:28.08 | Elive_user | how do i change the user name to make it persist between sessions |
| 15:28.12 | Rasko|nikov | si Thanatermesis, estoy descargando |
| 15:28.18 | Elive_user | i was Elive_user2 a second ago |
| 15:29.12 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user for the livecd mode ? not posible for this moments |
| 15:29.29 | Rasko|nikov | bueno, dejo la programación por hoy |
| 15:29.31 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 15:29.34 | Elive_user | actually, i have a hd install |
| 15:30.20 | sinplomo | KaKaRoTo-KS, you are an amsn dev, right ? |
| 15:30.38 | Rasko|nikov | Thanatermesis, q currado está el elive panel ese |
| 15:30.38 | Rasko|nikov | como lo has hecho? |
| 15:30.48 | Thanatermesis | Rasko|nikov creo que cuando veas el video te vas a ponder a programar con unas librerias nuevas del tiron xD |
| 15:30.53 | Thanatermesis | ah, ya lo has visto xD |
| 15:31.01 | Thanatermesis | Rasko|nikov programando :) |
| 15:31.13 | Rasko|nikov | no decias q no sabias C? xD |
| 15:31.21 | Thanatermesis | yo =? que va, ni puta idea |
| 15:31.25 | Thanatermesis | solo e programado el interface xD |
| 15:31.31 | Thanatermesis | es un idioma distinto |
| 15:31.43 | Thanatermesis | el programa se comunica con el interface, son dos cosas distintas |
| 15:31.43 | Rasko|nikov | q idioma? xD |
| 15:31.49 | Rasko|nikov | ahn, de loco |
| 15:31.52 | Thanatermesis | el interface puede llegar a ser totalmente independiente |
| 15:31.58 | Rasko|nikov | y cual es el programa? |
| 15:32.06 | Thanatermesis | pero si quieres que haga acciones "fisicas", entonces tienes que darle comunicacion por callbacks |
| 15:32.17 | Rasko|nikov | ahan |
| 15:32.35 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, deja todo de lado, y mirate las EFL |
| 15:32.44 | sinplomo | habia algo relacionado con OpenGL y tal |
| 15:32.44 | sinplomo | xD |
| 15:32.46 | Rasko|nikov | q no ostias!!! |
| 15:32.47 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 15:32.53 | Thanatermesis | el programa? un simple programa en C, lanza el interface y punto... a partir de alli si quieres que el boton "play" haga la funcion de lanzar el mplayer... pues envias una señal de interface al programa para que haga eso :) |
| 15:32.54 | Rasko|nikov | dejadme en paz con mi SDL |
| 15:33.07 | Thanatermesis | xDD |
| 15:33.15 | sinplomo | mariquita |
| 15:33.19 | Rasko|nikov | ademas, EFL va en windows? |
| 15:33.24 | Thanatermesis | Rasko|nikov bueno... creo que me tendré que currar aun mas el interface para convencerte ;) xD |
| 15:33.37 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, ni zorra |
| 15:33.42 | Thanatermesis | Rasko|nikov por cierto, has visto que el tono de los colores del borde del interface tambien cambia ? xDDD |
| 15:33.50 | Rasko|nikov | bah, ese interfaz lo puedo acer en SDL |
| 15:33.50 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 15:33.53 | sinplomo | pero va en hurd, solaris, bsd ... |
| 15:34.11 | Rasko|nikov | que, tentandome con hurd no? |
| 15:34.12 | Thanatermesis | no va en windows, ni se tiene planes de hacerlo funcionar en windows xD |
| 15:34.13 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 15:34.19 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, leiste el notice ? |
| 15:34.28 | Rasko|nikov | bah, pero si no va en windows no puedo ilusionar a las niñas enseñandoles mis jueguecitos xD |
| 15:34.45 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, cgywin o algo asi |
| 15:34.52 | Thanatermesis | Rasko|nikov con SDL ? hacemos un pique ? a ver quien hace una interface lo mas impresionante posible ? xD |
| 15:34.53 | sinplomo | bah |
| 15:34.55 | sinplomo | me callo |
| 15:34.56 | sinplomo | xD |
| 15:35.09 | Rasko|nikov | bah, fijo q la tuya es mas impresionante |
| 15:35.14 | Rasko|nikov | pero la mia mas rapida xD |
| 15:35.18 | Thanatermesis | no lei nada sinplomo |
| 15:35.26 | Rasko|nikov | y la mia tendrá mas lineas de código |
| 15:35.38 | sinplomo | si ahora no sale |
| 15:35.41 | sinplomo | mira en otros canales |
| 15:35.44 | Rasko|nikov | aunq como me piques te hago un sistema de panel que cargue los iconos de xml's .desktop |
| 15:35.48 | Thanatermesis | Rasko|nikov hombre.. lo de mas rapida quizas... pero la mia es mas optimizada para lo que "realmente hace" :) |
| 15:35.50 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 15:35.53 | Rasko|nikov | bueno. los .desktop sin inis |
| 15:36.03 | Rasko|nikov | *son inis |
| 15:36.13 | Rasko|nikov | y la pongo totalmente configurable con skins xml |
| 15:36.34 | sinplomo | quien es el estupido que usa iconos en el escritorio ? |
| 15:36.48 | Thanatermesis | pues eso estaria que te cagas de wapo Rasko|nikov ... un "menu" mucho mas wapo que todo lo visto hasta ahora para cualquier WM ;) |
| 15:36.57 | Rasko|nikov | y diseño un hardware q se comunique por usb y te haga una paja cuando lanzas el mplayer con algun video q termine en .xxx.avi/mpg/mov |
| 15:36.58 | Rasko|nikov | xDDD |
| 15:37.11 | Thanatermesis | eso eso eso ! |
| 15:37.26 | Rasko|nikov | Thanatermesis, pero no creo q hiciera un panel en SDL nunca xD |
| 15:37.35 | Rasko|nikov | serÃa mas óptimo hacerlo en X directamente |
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| 15:38.21 | Rasko|nikov | pq, especialmente con los putos drivers de ATI, SDL me coje 50 fps en una ventana de 640x480 |
| 15:38.34 | Thanatermesis | bueh, si... pero seguiria siendo igual de feos que todo lo que hay hecho :P |
| 15:38.41 | Rasko|nikov | jajaja |
| 15:38.49 | Rasko|nikov | bueno, quieres q te lo haga con efl entonces? |
| 15:38.56 | Rasko|nikov | me figuro q las efl son mu faciles |
| 15:39.15 | Rasko|nikov | jaja, al final me vas a picar y te voy a acer el Epanel xD |
| 15:39.28 | Rasko|nikov | aunq e ya tiene un panel bonito no? |
| 15:41.09 | sinplomo | me llaman |
| 15:41.14 | sinplomo | a dar palizar en el CS |
| 15:41.20 | sinplomo | palizas |
| 15:41.28 | Rasko|nikov | a ver si de paso me hago una web pa poner un indice con todas las chorradas q programo, q por lo menos sinplomo entraria xD |
| 15:41.34 | Rasko|nikov | sinplomo, CS caca! |
| 15:41.39 | Rasko|nikov | valve al paredón! |
| 15:41.43 | Rasko|nikov | juega al quake xD |
| 15:41.45 | Thanatermesis | claro que son faciles, estan tiradas |
| 15:42.05 | Thanatermesis | mirate las EFL Rasko|nikov y descubriras un potentissimo y impresionante mundo nuevo :) |
| 15:42.09 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 15:42.20 | Rasko|nikov | bueno, yo las miro, pero q saquen version pa Windoze |
| 15:42.26 | Rasko|nikov | y pa openvms xD |
| 15:42.27 | Thanatermesis | solo tienes que ver el panel que estoy haciendo yo sin tener ni idea de diseño (patata frita total), y menos aun de programacion xD |
| 15:42.27 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, la pondria como mi web por defecto |
| 15:42.28 | sinplomo | xDDD |
| 15:42.35 | Rasko|nikov | habeis probado algun *vms? |
| 15:42.41 | Thanatermesis | nah, no te preocupes por Elpanel.. ya lo hago yo ;) |
| 15:42.52 | Thanatermesis | pero podrias hacer muchas cosas nuevas que aun no existen :) |
| 15:42.54 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, vms ? |
| 15:43.04 | sinplomo | fwvm ? |
| 15:43.08 | Rasko|nikov | sinplomo, si, vms es un sistema de OS q realmente no es unix |
| 15:43.14 | Rasko|nikov | me han dicho q te vuelves loco |
| 15:43.29 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, joder, hay mas OS de churros |
| 15:43.29 | sinplomo | xD |
| 15:43.32 | Thanatermesis | que es openvms ? |
| 15:43.39 | Thanatermesis | windows lo dudo mucho, para que lo quieres ? |
| 15:43.40 | Rasko|nikov | los directorios, por ejemplo, no utilizan las jerarquias a las q estamos acostumbrados con / o \ |
| 15:43.46 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, claro, seguro que no va ni la mitad de hardware |
| 15:43.53 | Rasko|nikov | ya |
| 15:44.01 | Rasko|nikov | pero dicen q es la estabilidad suprema |
| 15:44.14 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, ahh |
| 15:44.24 | sinplomo | vms |
| 15:44.27 | sinplomo | ya me acuerdo |
| 15:44.28 | Thanatermesis | claro, contra mas pequeño mas estable :) |
| 15:44.32 | Rasko|nikov | y q se basa en un paradigma completamente nuevo y revolucionario xD |
| 15:44.38 | sinplomo | vms ---> win nt |
| 15:44.41 | Rasko|nikov | http://www.openvms.org/ |
| 15:44.45 | Thanatermesis | yo tengo un SO que me hace colores en la pantalla, es lo unico que hace, ocupa pocos KB... nunca se cuelga :) |
| 15:44.48 | Rasko|nikov | sinplomo, q estas ablando? |
| 15:44.49 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 15:44.54 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, si |
| 15:44.58 | sinplomo | vms es una empresa |
| 15:45.17 | Rasko|nikov | y q? |
| 15:45.19 | sinplomo | *es de |
| 15:45.25 | Rasko|nikov | openvms es un sistema operativo xD |
| 15:45.31 | sinplomo | ¬¬ |
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| 15:45.51 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, VMS es un OS de DEC |
| 15:45.54 | david614 | done -- formerly Elive_User, now david614 |
| 15:46.03 | sinplomo | y son los que hicieron win net a MS |
| 15:46.18 | Rasko|nikov | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVMS |
| 15:46.30 | sinplomo | ya ya |
| 15:46.37 | david614 | Thanatermesisokay -- I was the one that sent you the /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 15:46.46 | david614 | Thanatermesis okay -- I was the one that sent you the /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 15:46.55 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, bueno, que lo sepas |
| 15:46.55 | david614 | sorry about the double post |
| 15:47.02 | sinplomo | Digital hizo el WIN NT para microsoft |
| 15:47.04 | sinplomo | de hecho |
| 15:47.11 | Rasko|nikov | pos mu bien |
| 15:47.12 | sinplomo | mira la letra siguiente de VMS |
| 15:47.15 | sinplomo | WNT :) |
| 15:47.22 | sinplomo | ( win nt ;) ) |
| 15:47.26 | sinplomo | curioso no ? |
| 15:47.39 | Thanatermesis | http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96781308/K=linux/v=2/SID=e/l=VDP/SIG=13fi7t0c2/EXP=1127490411/*-http%3A//web1.austria182.server4free.de/downloads2/linux/multimedia/videos/clustertrailer.mpg |
| 15:47.58 | Thanatermesis | david614 in www.pastebin.com |
| 15:48.12 | david614 | i just sent it 10 minutes ago |
| 15:48.41 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 15:48.44 | Rasko|nikov | no me ralles |
| 15:48.56 | Rasko|nikov | bueno me las piro |
| 15:49.01 | Rasko|nikov | ns vemos! |
| 15:49.22 | sinplomo | bye revolucionario |
| 15:49.34 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 15:49.48 | david614 | sent again (twice) |
| 15:49.50 | Rasko|nikov | bye sinplomo |
| 15:50.09 | Thanatermesis | david614 link ? |
| 15:50.42 | david614 | http://pastebin.com/371038 |
| 15:51.19 | Thanatermesis | david614 looks good |
| 15:51.31 | Thanatermesis | you have 2 devices, eth0 are started from the boot |
| 15:52.01 | david614 | eth0 is a built in ethernet port, eth2 is a pc card wifi adapter |
| 15:55.17 | Thanatermesis | in any case looks good |
| 15:56.28 | david614 | one last question. when i check the resolution of my monitor, it says 1024x768 |
| 15:57.21 | david614 | I have set it up using vhsync to run at 1600x1200 -- but that doesn't show as an option in Resolution panel |
| 15:58.14 | david614 | My computer is a dell latitude c810 notebook with a 15 inch uxga screen. It comes up as 1600x1200 in windows 2000 |
| 15:58.55 | david614 | is this a bug in the resolution panel? as in, the text on the screen "looks" like the higher resolution, but the selection is not available in the menu |
| 15:58.56 | elive-bot | david614: well, elive-resolution is if you like to start with another resolution (and install the system with this resolution), add screen=1024x768 in the boot options |
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| 15:59.38 | david614 | where do you set boot options? |
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| 16:05.04 | lilgg | hello..I apt-get install e17 and when i try to run e17 i get this error: enlightenment cannot initialize its X connection. have u set ur display variable? |
| 16:05.07 | lilgg | any ideas? |
| 16:05.57 | Thanatermesis | install e17 ? |
| 16:06.05 | lilgg | yeahh |
| 16:07.10 | Thanatermesis | in ? elive ? o_O e17 are installed by default |
| 16:07.17 | sinplomo | how do you run e17 ? |
| 16:08.05 | david614 | I have set it up using vhsync to run at 1600x1200 -- but that doesn't show as an option in Resolution panel |
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| 16:08.59 | lilgg | neverminf i fixxed it. |
| 16:09.16 | lilgg | i had to edit .xinitrc |
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| 16:56.15 | Thanatermesis | http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96781308/K=linux/v=2/SID=e/l=VDP/SIG=13ivfrn8s/EXP=1127494431/*-http%3A//web1.austria182.server4free.de/downloads2/linux/multimedia/videos/novell_flying_boy.mpg |
| 16:56.18 | Thanatermesis | lol |
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| 17:54.19 | xlony | buh |
| 17:56.11 | Thanatermesis | :o |
| 17:56.24 | xlony | que pasa neng. |
| 17:59.02 | Thanatermesis | mira, por aqui como siempre :) |
| 17:59.53 | xlony | Thanatermesis: tu no curras no? |
| 18:01.25 | Thanatermesis | si |
| 18:01.26 | Thanatermesis | con elive |
| 18:01.26 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 18:01.47 | xlony | pero digo que si ganas dinero |
| 18:01.59 | Thanatermesis | nop |
| 18:02.04 | xlony | y cómo leches vives |
| 18:02.21 | Thanatermesis | buena pregunta, tengo un hambre que me muero |
| 18:02.22 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 18:02.22 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, http://www.vivalinux.com.ar/var/img//viva_hard/hard_tux_racer_arcade.jpeg |
| 18:02.25 | sinplomo | xDDD |
| 18:02.52 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, tu no tenias que buscar un curro ? |
| 18:03.02 | Thanatermesis | si... eso se supone xD |
| 18:03.24 | xlony | buuuuuh |
| 18:03.25 | xlony | :O |
| 18:03.30 | xlony | juas juas! |
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| 18:23.37 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo |
| 18:23.41 | Thanatermesis | proximo video de Elive: |
| 18:23.53 | Thanatermesis | http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96781308/K=ballmer/v=2/SID=e/l=VDP/SIG=126pfgc3u/EXP=1127499338/*-http%3A//freax.be/files/ballmer_developers_music.mov |
| 18:24.02 | Thanatermesis | look the face of the evil |
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| 18:45.22 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, los de microsoft dan pena |
| 18:45.23 | sinplomo | ... |
| 18:46.04 | Thanatermesis | ya ves |
| 18:46.06 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 18:46.12 | Thanatermesis | has visto la del coche ? |
| 18:46.21 | sinplomo | no |
| 18:46.24 | sinplomo | vi el de win xp |
| 18:47.08 | Thanatermesis | http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96781308/K=gates+ballmer/v=2/SID=e/l=VDP/SIG=12451entg/EXP=1127501219/*-http%3A//volksweb.relitech.com/funstuff/gates3.mov |
| 18:47.43 | sinplomo | joder |
| 18:47.45 | sinplomo | un mov |
| 18:53.46 | Thanatermesis | mplayer |
| 18:59.09 | reliver | sabes que steve jobs es un loco como eles tambien, si ? |
| 19:04.24 | Thanatermesis | apt steve jobs |
| 19:04.25 | apt | hmm... steve jobs is god |
| 19:04.34 | Thanatermesis | who is steve jobs ? |
| 19:04.38 | Thanatermesis | apt steve ballmer |
| 19:04.39 | apt | got a banana? |
| 19:04.43 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 19:12.46 | roxville | lol |
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| 20:14.08 | Elive_user | I love elive ;) |
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| 20:47.38 | sHR00m | apt x es de guardia civiles |
| 20:48.51 | Thanatermesis | = police |
| 20:48.58 | Thanatermesis | (similar) |
| 20:50.56 | damosu | Thanatermesis, el aleman del apt esta chungo |
| 20:51.01 | damosu | siempre dice eso |
| 20:52.14 | Thanatermesis | es porque lo haces directo |
| 20:52.20 | Thanatermesis | apt x es en guardia civil |
| 20:52.26 | Thanatermesis | apt x en de civil guard |
| 20:52.31 | Thanatermesis | apt x en ja civil guard |
| 20:52.38 | Thanatermesis | apt x en ru civil guard |
| 20:53.09 | Thanatermesis | apt x en ja Elive is a young distro, currently at 0.3. But what Elive does at that stage, beats many distros at 1.0! |
| 20:53.23 | Thanatermesis | que decias del idioma de apt damosu ? xD |
| 20:53.48 | damosu | juas |
| 20:53.56 | damosu | japonech |
| 20:53.59 | Thanatermesis | apt x en br Elive is a young distro, currently at 0.3. But what Elive does at that stage, beats many distros at 1.0! |
| 20:54.02 | Thanatermesis | apt x en ro Elive is a young distro, currently at 0.3. But what Elive does at that stage, beats many distros at 1.0! |
| 20:54.06 | Thanatermesis | apt x en pl Elive is a young distro, currently at 0.3. But what Elive does at that stage, beats many distros at 1.0! |
| 20:54.09 | Thanatermesis | apt x en po Elive is a young distro, currently at 0.3. But what Elive does at that stage, beats many distros at 1.0! |
| 20:54.17 | damosu | tengo utf8 y aun asi no veo todos los caracteres |
| 20:54.22 | damosu | la mayoria si |
| 20:54.23 | Thanatermesis | ya ves xD |
| 20:54.37 | damosu | apt, x es de traduce esto |
| 20:54.46 | Thanatermesis | sin la coma |
| 20:54.52 | damosu | apt x es de traduce esto |
| 20:55.02 | damosu | de español a aleman |
| 20:55.24 | Thanatermesis | no, tienes que pasar por el ingles |
| 20:55.26 | Thanatermesis | apt x en ro Elive is a young distro, currently at 0.3. But what Elive does at that stage, beats many distros at 1.0! |
| 20:55.44 | damosu | apt x es en con cien cañones por banda |
| 20:55.49 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 20:55.56 | damosu | apt x en de with one hundred tubes by band |
| 20:55.57 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es with one hundred tubes by band |
| 20:55.59 | Thanatermesis | flipa |
| 20:56.06 | Thanatermesis | xDDDDD |
| 20:56.10 | damosu | xDD |
| 20:56.39 | damosu | pos cuendo hay frases con muchos los las que y demas monosilabos flipa el apt |
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| 20:58.07 | Thanatermesis | apt x es en si el le en su de la en por si algo jamon jabugo |
| 20:58.20 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es if him in his of in in case something jamon jabugo |
| 20:58.32 | Thanatermesis | xDDD |
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| 20:58.49 | Thanatermesis | apt x es en si él en el suyo de adentro en caso de que algo jabugo del jamon |
| 20:58.57 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es if he in his of inside in case that something jabugo of jamon |
| 20:59.16 | Thanatermesis | al final te cuenta un cuento damosu xD |
| 20:59.42 | damosu | uff |
| 20:59.54 | damosu | pera a ver si se me ocurre alguna wapa |
| 21:00.22 | Thanatermesis | apt sex |
| 21:00.24 | apt | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/ |
| 21:00.25 | Thanatermesis | esa es muy buena |
| 21:00.32 | damosu | sip xD |
| 21:00.36 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, |
| 21:00.55 | Thanatermesis | instalan el condón xDDDD |
| 21:01.00 | Thanatermesis | "montaje" XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd |
| 21:01.20 | Thanatermesis | "grito de asombro" x''DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 21:01.32 | damosu | xDD |
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| 21:03.18 | damosu | ha ya me encontre el fallo gordo aquel |
| 21:03.23 | damosu | apt x en es OGC es lo que haces despues de instalar elive |
| 21:03.30 | damosu | xDD |
| 21:03.36 | damosu | se pone loco |
| 21:03.52 | damosu | es un poco pajillero creo yo |
| 21:04.00 | damosu | solo hablar de eso y ya ves xD |
| 21:04.44 | damosu | apt x es en OGC es lo que haces despues de instalar elive |
| 21:04.53 | damosu | juas |
| 21:04.55 | eddan | Anyone know where I could get my hands on a thunderbird 1.5 beta debian package? Want to check it out, and install it with synaptic/apt-get |
| 21:05.02 | damosu | nada Thanatermesis |
| 21:05.05 | damosu | olvidalo |
| 21:05.24 | damosu | se me va la olla a veces pero de carallo como decimos aqui xD |
| 21:05.37 | Thanatermesis | <apt> elive instalar del de del que del es del ogc de los despues bajos de los haces |
| 21:05.38 | Thanatermesis | WOW |
| 21:05.53 | damosu | es que esta mal |
| 21:05.56 | damosu | en es |
| 21:05.59 | damosu | y seria es en |
| 21:06.17 | damosu | y yo pensando que era un fallo del babelfish ese xD |
| 21:06.56 | Thanatermesis | eddan only installing for "expermental" or "sid" repositories ? but its very dangerous for broke your system |
| 21:07.01 | roxville | eddan, if you have an rpm, you can convert with: alien yourpackage.rpm |
| 21:07.25 | Thanatermesis | for what need this? o_O |
| 21:07.33 | roxville | and then install with dpkg -i yourpackage.deb |
| 21:08.07 | eddan | Thanatermesis: So there is an experimental rep somewhere? Official from debian? Or some 3rd party? |
| 21:08.27 | eddan | roxville: Thanks, will check that out if I can't find another solution |
| 21:09.02 | roxville | they are everywhere, eddan, search with google for extra debian reopsitories or something |
| 21:09.05 | roxville | BUT... |
| 21:09.13 | roxville | Thanatermesis, warned you, ok??? |
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| 21:10.46 | roxville | eddan, you sound a little paranoid, man " Thanatermesis: So there is an experimental rep somewhere? Official from debian? Or some 3rd party?" |
| 21:10.58 | roxville | :) |
| 21:11.21 | eddan | Yes.. Just that I was running a nightly build on windows earlier and have gotten used to the new features |
| 21:11.31 | Thanatermesis | roxville why you don't make all your hard test from the elive in livecd mode? ;) |
| 21:12.06 | roxville | Thanatermesis, i usually do that with "u" |
| 21:12.39 | roxville | Thanatermesis, i have stopped that with elive, ok? you asked me to, and i stopped! |
| 21:13.02 | Thanatermesis | eddan official from debian, but not works same... stable version = stable, testing.. works good, new packages, posible tomorrow not posible to install one or posible to look a little bug... unstable, for experts, need to maintain and repair your system manually, for colaborators... experimental, for very experts and "hobby", experiment with new packages, developer of debian etc... |
| 21:13.24 | Thanatermesis | this is basically the 4 versions of debian |
| 21:13.38 | Thanatermesis | experimental not are complete..., very hard to switch |
| 21:14.38 | eddan | Thanatermesis: Ok, thanks.. Maybe I should wait for the final thunderbird 1.5 release to be included in stable.. |
| 21:15.00 | roxville | this is probably why "u" has almost proprietary libc6 and other libs...that stop you from install stuff that definitely break your system |
| 21:16.02 | roxville | tell you what though, the "u" backports sure is a nice place to be :) |
| 21:16.19 | sinplomo | apt, ubuntu |
| 21:16.20 | apt | methinks ubuntu is caca from this ass http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3843/18427557718e22857e9rb.jpg |
| 21:17.42 | eddan | apt, slackware |
| 21:17.44 | apt | The Slackware distribution. URL: http://www.slackware.com/ |
| 21:18.06 | sinplomo | apt, elive |
| 21:18.08 | apt | well, elive is a livecd project and a perfectly distro based in debian and have only the enlightenment WM for managing all the system, utilities, libs, instalation, programation in EFL... the best distro in the world for this moments :) |
| 21:18.16 | Thanatermesis | eddan for what you need this version ? |
| 21:19.52 | roxville | sinplomo, you said ubuntu, i didn't! i meant yourdistro lin"u"x! |
| 21:21.47 | roxville | Thanatermesis, you have to stop worrying what ppl do with their distro! |
| 21:21.58 | eddan | nothing big really, just the ability to delete attachments from emails without deleting the emails and the RSS and filters improvements |
| 21:22.21 | roxville | apt x en es what you DO have to do, is put up warning signs in the sources.list and stuu |
| 21:22.30 | roxville | stuff |
| 21:22.58 | eddan | + I think it's fun to check out new features and help them with bugs. |
| 21:23.48 | roxville | see? he's a beta tester, not a terrorist! Thanatermesis for gods sakes let him go! LET HIM GOOOO!!! |
| 21:24.14 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 21:24.20 | roxville | *whew!* |
| 21:24.30 | roxville | ok, i'm fine now...i'n fine... |
| 21:24.38 | Thanatermesis | eddan you have tested "syilpeed" ? |
| 21:24.41 | Thanatermesis | sylpeed |
| 21:25.08 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es let him go |
| 21:25.17 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 21:26.24 | eddan | Thanatermesis: No, I haven't |
| 21:26.35 | eddan | You like it? |
| 21:28.14 | Thanatermesis | im not use |
| 21:28.26 | Thanatermesis | but is in the list of the best's |
| 21:28.28 | Thanatermesis | try it ;) |
| 21:30.24 | eddan | Can I ask where you're from, Thanatermesis? And why the amsn version that comes with elive (atleast when you install it to disk) is in spanish :) |
| 21:31.24 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, ese tio quiere que me echas o he entendido mal ? |
| 21:32.32 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo ni idea, de todas formas siempre esta de coña ;) |
| 21:32.54 | sinplomo | bueno, |
| 21:32.57 | sinplomo | unf unf |
| 21:33.17 | roxville | Sylpheed is an e-mail client which aims for: |
| 21:33.17 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.17 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.17 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.17 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.18 | roxville | The appearance and interface are similar to some popular e-mail clients for |
| 21:33.19 | sinplomo | roxville, sabes lo que es una hostia ? |
| 21:33.20 | roxville | Windows, such as Outlook Express or so. |
| 21:33.22 | roxville | The interface is also designed to emulate the mailers on Emacsen, and almost |
| 21:33.23 | sinplomo | roxville, spammer |
| 21:33.24 | roxville | all commands are accessible with the keyboard. |
| 21:33.38 | Thanatermesis | eddan little bug/modification, fixed for the next release, and if you upgrade your amsn conf, are solved in your system ;) |
| 21:33.45 | roxville | ok, sorry...won't happen again! |
| 21:34.07 | eddan | roxville: oh, the last line there that all commands have keyboard shortcuts is nice |
| 21:34.40 | eddan | Thanatermesis: Yeah, figured it out. But then I switched to gaim and have lived happily ever after :) |
| 21:39.40 | roxville | and gaim has a much nicer eXquisite icon! :) |
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| 21:53.09 | roxville | i always thought sylpheed sounded too much like syphilis |
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| 21:58.49 | CGA | hola |
| 21:59.10 | eddan | hola |
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| 22:01.59 | nefertum | hi |
| 22:02.34 | nefertum | do you know if it's possible get E16 packets for ppc?¿ |
| 22:02.55 | eddan | Nope, just wait around, someone probably know |
| 22:03.06 | nefertum | ok thanks :) |
| 22:03.27 | nefertum | i've installed the e16 packets in debian |
| 22:03.35 | nefertum | but there are not engage and other ones |
| 22:03.43 | nefertum | evidence... |
| 22:04.51 | shadoi | nefertum: I haven't built my packages for PPC yet |
| 22:05.03 | shadoi | I think there is a french repository out there that has them though. |
| 22:07.46 | shadoi | nefertum: http://gunnm.org/~soda/debian/ |
| 22:08.12 | shadoi | looks like they're quite old now though. :/ |
| 22:13.28 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, oye, kanotix tiene empaquetado el spca5xx |
| 22:14.23 | sinplomo | hum ... |
| 22:14.23 | sinplomo | y esta actualizado ... |
| 22:14.23 | sinplomo | lo pondre en mi repo :) |
| 22:14.23 | Thanatermesis | ten cuidado con las dependencias |
| 22:14.24 | Thanatermesis | que por culpa de kanotix, el xchat se lanzaba con 20 segundos de retraso xD |
| 22:14.34 | Thanatermesis | las gtk vaya |
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| 22:17.35 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, el paquete es elive-compile-kernel no ? |
| 22:19.58 | Thanatermesis | elive-kernel-compile |
| 22:20.57 | nefertum | shadoi, thanks |
| 22:26.04 | sinplomo | Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libsdl1.2debian (>> 1.2.7+1.2.8) |
| 22:26.13 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, mejor quito la version de libc6 no ? |
| 22:31.45 | Thanatermesis | si |
| 22:32.06 | sinplomo | libsdl1.2debian y de esta tmb |
| 22:32.07 | sinplomo | ok |
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| 22:35.03 | Thanatermesis | si claro, lo vas a poner que no necesite SDL... |
| 22:35.07 | Thanatermesis | si te oye rasko te mata |
| 22:35.07 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 22:35.19 | Thanatermesis | sdl ? para el spca ??? |
| 22:35.51 | shadoi | Thanatermesis: have you tried running an edje app with DirectFB support... you could have the bootup screens be an edje app... would be awesome. :) |
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| 22:36.58 | Thanatermesis | hehehe |
| 22:37.02 | Thanatermesis | yes, its a nice feacute |
| 22:37.05 | Thanatermesis | feature |
| 22:37.12 | Thanatermesis | but little problematic |
| 22:37.16 | Thanatermesis | 2 important points: |
| 22:37.30 | Thanatermesis | 1) no all persons can posible to boot with FB |
| 22:37.36 | shadoi | true |
| 22:37.47 | Thanatermesis | 2) edje needs CPU, more eye-candy, more cpu.... this is equivalent a slower boot |
| 22:37.53 | Thanatermesis | and a slower boot are bad :) |
| 22:37.57 | Thanatermesis | Elive boots fast! :) |
| 22:38.01 | shadoi | true, but it doesn't need THAT much. |
| 22:38.06 | sinplomo | is not are |
| 22:38.21 | Thanatermesis | depend of the eye-candy... |
| 22:38.24 | shadoi | most people would think the cool-factor out-weighs the speed drop. |
| 22:38.24 | sinplomo | are para plurarl y is para singular, execto you que siempre lleva are |
| 22:38.25 | shadoi | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.27 | Thanatermesis | big eye-candy, big consomation |
| 22:38.29 | sinplomo | y I que lleva am |
| 22:38.30 | sinplomo | xD |
| 22:38.39 | shadoi | Thanatermesis: yeah.. just something small.. subtle. |
| 22:38.57 | Thanatermesis | or... posible for the installed system boot |
| 22:39.17 | Thanatermesis | the messages of the boot from a edje interface :) |
| 22:39.40 | Thanatermesis | but this needs really a big look, if the user can posible to launch this... if not... mmmh, its more work, hehe |
| 22:41.57 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, http://issam.no-ip.org/debian/ |
| 22:43.16 | reliver | hello again, does someone around here understand favicon.ico ? |
| 22:43.35 | reliver | does it work on http://user-land.org/elive ? |
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| 22:51.15 | sinplomo | reliver, no |
| 22:51.16 | shadoi | reliver: it's the tikiwiki icon. |
| 22:53.22 | reliver | hmm, do you know favicon.ico ? |
| 23:00.05 | reliver | would someone like to write something for the wiki ? |
| 23:00.38 | sinplomo | tommorrow maybe |
| 23:01.25 | eshep | reliver, just start writing faq stuff? |
| 23:01.55 | reliver | eshep, that would be great. |
| 23:02.04 | reliver | whatever you like. |
| 23:02.08 | reliver | it goes like this: |
| 23:02.16 | sinplomo | how to get ealge-usb and speedtouch modems runing on elive |
| 23:02.21 | reliver | you see on the right side: quick edit ? |
| 23:02.26 | sinplomo | and, spca5xx webcams :) |
| 23:02.47 | eshep | we need to just start throwing all the questions from here in it and get to the answers when we can |
| 23:02.59 | reliver | there you enter the name of the page you want to write. |
| 23:06.23 | reliver | ah, eshep, so you are creating a new faq there ? |
| 23:07.05 | eshep | oops, reliver, i thought it was a catagory |
| 23:08.06 | reliver | i am learning with you :-) |
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| 23:08.49 | reliver | on the left side, under "Menu", you clicked on FAQ ? |
| 23:09.51 | eshep | nope, i just used the quick edit |
| 23:09.54 | sinplomo | reliver, htttp://issam.no-ip.org/debian |
| 23:09.58 | sinplomo | reliver, http://issam.no-ip.org/debian |
| 23:14.05 | eshep | roxville, when you bow that much it just looks like bobbing |
| 23:14.22 | roxville | no man, coz i have grace |
| 23:14.25 | roxville | g.r.a.c.e |
| 23:14.29 | eshep | aha |
| 23:14.29 | roxville | :) |
| 23:14.41 | roxville | lol thana |
| 23:14.58 | eshep | i hpoe he didnt throw his back out doing that |
| 23:15.28 | roxville | LOL, me too |
| 23:16.22 | roxville | we need a lot of the questions from the first week or so |
| 23:16.38 | roxville | would they be logged, by chance? |
| 23:17.41 | roxville | Thanatermesis, do you keep logs of the channel? |
| 23:18.59 | Thanatermesis | I have logs of the channel :) |
| 23:19.08 | Thanatermesis | with xchat, works day and night :) |
| 23:19.46 | roxville | ok...the tough part... |
| 23:20.03 | roxville | is to scan through them |
| 23:20.35 | roxville | what were the most common quest...maybe we should do this in a separate room? |
| 23:20.59 | eshep | sounds like a job for apt :) |
| 23:21.22 | roxville | what were the most common questions the first three days? |
| 23:21.32 | roxville | yeah, could apt do that? |
| 23:22.19 | roxville | not counting how to log off from e16 and on to e17 |
| 23:23.04 | eshep | ok...roxville...brainstorm time... |
| 23:23.06 | eshep | go |
| 23:23.15 | roxville | lol |
| 23:23.49 | roxville | sorry, i need something to go from, a starting point |
| 23:24.17 | roxville | what do you all fell were the three most asked questions |
| 23:24.21 | roxville | feel |
| 23:24.37 | roxville | are they answered in the elivew docs |
| 23:24.50 | eshep | "is e17 stable?" |
| 23:24.52 | eshep | hahaha |
| 23:25.02 | roxville | hehe |
| 23:25.58 | roxville | "yes. the segfaults are actually a feature, not a bug" |
| 23:27.10 | eshep | thats actually the motto from aurora sparc linux "it's not a bug, it's a feature" |
| 23:27.28 | roxville | i know |
| 23:27.41 | sHR00m | roxville, but its strange. on my celeron p4 notebook with cvs build i never noticed segfaults |
| 23:28.00 | roxville | picasso said "good artists borrow. great artists steal" |
| 23:28.20 | reliver | eshep, what do you think about different FAQs: one for Installation, Configuration, Errors, Software-list ? |
| 23:29.00 | roxville | ok, sHR00m we'll put that in there: if you have sHR00m's notebook, you are less likely to have segfaults |
| 23:29.21 | sHR00m | roxville, no i only asking why this may occur |
| 23:29.27 | eshep | reliver, i like it, but i couldnt figure out how to make different catagories |
| 23:29.46 | reliver | can you click on FAQ as i described ? |
| 23:30.09 | roxville | sHR00m, coz you're a lucky fuck, that's why! :) |
| 23:30.29 | eshep | sHR00m, i have had no segfaults on my vaio vgn-k30 either |
| 23:30.44 | sHR00m | eshep, interesting |
| 23:30.54 | eshep | damnit! i knew i shouldnt have said anything |
| 23:31.00 | roxville | LOL |
| 23:31.00 | eshep | just kidding |
| 23:31.53 | roxville | categories could be: pretty much how it's categorized in synaptic |
| 23:32.11 | roxville | base system, networking, |
| 23:32.19 | eshep | i found em, give me some catagories |
| 23:32.25 | eshep | ok |
| 23:32.29 | roxville | and then, the big "e" |
| 23:33.13 | roxville | the hard work is gonna be to make sense of the howto's at get-e.org |
| 23:33.19 | roxville | :) |
| 23:33.32 | reliver | would you like to start with a FAQ called Installation ? |
| 23:33.48 | roxville | X is a pretty big category, always |
| 23:34.24 | roxville | no |
| 23:34.45 | roxville | coz ppl tend to want to try first, and fix it when it doesn't work |
| 23:34.49 | eshep | theres one in there |
| 23:34.59 | eshep | i just did it |
| 23:35.08 | roxville | :) |
| 23:35.46 | eshep | Base System |
| 23:35.47 | eshep | Configuration |
| 23:35.47 | eshep | Errors |
| 23:35.47 | eshep | Networking |
| 23:36.15 | reliver | ah, great :-) |
| 23:36.39 | eshep | now i just need some questions to answer |
| 23:36.40 | roxville | good! :) |
| 23:36.43 | eshep | hmmmm |
| 23:36.53 | roxville | trust me, that's a LOT to start with |
| 23:37.07 | roxville | uh-oh, eshep said hmmm |
| 23:37.54 | reliver | a wiki is like a sandbox, a happy work in progress, always. |
| 23:37.55 | eshep | got one! woohoo |
| 23:38.00 | eshep | eap files |
| 23:38.04 | reliver | just like Elive, right ? :-) |
| 23:39.02 | roxville | YES |
| 23:39.24 | roxville | OK, listen... |
| 23:39.52 | roxville | how about starting with easy to understand, basic e config howto's |
| 23:40.58 | reliver | yes, roxville, and a howto does not need to be in a FAQ, also good. |
| 23:40.58 | roxville | this is what i have felt most ppl ask about...how to find installed apps and so on |
| 23:42.16 | roxville | ok, not a howto then...just a basic faq |
| 23:42.57 | eshep | find installed apps? ls /usr/bin && ls /usr/sbin |grep appname |
| 23:43.09 | reliver | eshep, did you start the faq about e17 ? |
| 23:43.17 | eshep | yes |
| 23:43.29 | eshep | im making my first one now |
| 23:43.46 | roxville | very good :) |
| 23:44.06 | reliver | eshep, i think there is a mistake. |
| 23:44.40 | eshep | you dont say.. |
| 23:45.13 | reliver | what you have as title of the FAQ should be just one question in a FAQ titled "e17 configuration" or so. |
| 23:45.59 | eshep | crap! |
| 23:46.04 | sHR00m | arent "e17 configuration" things, something for the wiki? |
| 23:46.12 | roxville | yeah, skip the "how do i turn the computer on?" questions |
| 23:46.48 | roxville | this is for the wiki, i think |
| 23:46.54 | sHR00m | oh. ok |
| 23:47.24 | sHR00m | but maybe a tutorial would be more comfortble instead of just answering questions |
| 23:47.57 | roxville | that's a little what i was thinking too |
| 23:48.17 | sHR00m | faqs are good for generell questions |
| 23:50.31 | roxville | http://www.majalah.com/ have a look at this...i like the setup of this one |
| 23:50.40 | roxville | yes, i know it's ubuntu... |
| 23:51.23 | Thanatermesis | apt ubuntu |
| 23:51.26 | apt | methinks ubuntu is caca from this ass http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3843/18427557718e22857e9rb.jpg |
| 23:52.11 | roxville | Thanatermesis, please... lol |
| 23:52.21 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 23:52.37 | sHR00m | ah.. looks nice |
| 23:52.52 | eshep | there, my fisrst faq is done, check it out |
| 23:53.49 | roxville | ok, let's call it the elive guide to the galaxy or something |
| 23:54.02 | roxville | not a faq, not a howto |
| 23:55.39 | reliver | what is the name of your faq, eshep ? |
| 23:55.58 | eshep | How do I add items to the menus in e17? |
| 23:56.06 | eshep | it should be the only one there |
| 23:56.13 | roxville | lol |
| 23:56.20 | roxville | where? |
| 23:56.38 | eshep | i figured that was a pretty common question |
| 23:56.41 | eshep | asked or not |
| 23:56.53 | eshep | in the faq of course |
| 23:56.58 | roxville | "Elive Starter Guide" |
| 23:57.17 | roxville | ok... and would you have a link? |
| 23:57.21 | roxville | :) |
| 23:57.37 | eshep | to where? eterm? |
| 23:58.38 | eshep | reliver, it didnt do my categories like i thought it would |
| 23:59.09 | reliver | eshep may i rearrange the setup for it ? would you mind ? |
| 23:59.28 | eshep | knock yourself out dude |
