| 00:00.19 | sHR00m | apt x en de knock yourself out dude |
| 00:00.25 | roxville | eshep, you said: check it out..i thought..i actually could! |
| 00:01.18 | eshep | oh, i thought you meant links from the answer to the faq |
| 00:01.38 | eshep | just click on the faq on the left side |
| 00:02.06 | roxville | oh wow, the wiki is set up now! |
| 00:02.20 | eshep | knock yourself out dude=go ahead |
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| 00:02.43 | eshep | hi felix, sashiburi ne |
| 00:02.56 | eshep | i mean, long time no see |
| 00:03.02 | felix | eshep: konichiwa |
| 00:03.16 | felix | eshep: What did I say? :-D |
| 00:03.29 | eshep | good afternoon |
| 00:03.31 | felix | eshep: Do you play go? |
| 00:03.47 | felix | eshep: how are you doing? |
| 00:04.04 | roxville | hi felix :) |
| 00:04.09 | felix | roxville: hey!, hello! |
| 00:04.11 | roxville | good job, eshep! |
| 00:04.47 | eshep | no i dont play, and im still sick, but working anyway |
| 00:05.05 | felix | eshep: take care. Do not work if you feel sick. |
| 00:05.08 | roxville | felix, he only plays go with his wife: she's go, and he goes |
| 00:05.19 | roxville | she says go... |
| 00:05.25 | felix | eshep: I have a go board, and bought a glass stone in the USA |
| 00:05.34 | roxville | i hate it when i mess up my attempts of jokes |
| 00:05.43 | eshep | roxville, well see what it looks like after reliver get done chopping it up |
| 00:05.57 | felix | roxville: that was a joke??... |
| 00:06.08 | roxville | yea, i can't wait |
| 00:06.11 | eshep | they just arnt as good when you have to say em twice |
| 00:06.13 | roxville | harhar felix |
| 00:06.21 | felix | roxville: }:) |
| 00:06.45 | eshep | joke or no joke............ |
| 00:07.48 | felix | eshep: what about origami? do you do origami things? |
| 00:08.15 | roxville | felix, he's an american living in okinawa |
| 00:08.32 | eshep | yeah, my daughter makes me "help" her with em |
| 00:09.12 | felix | roxville: i'm an argentinian living in argentina and i do some origami things :) |
| 00:09.15 | eshep | if she only chipped in a little :) |
| 00:09.42 | felix | roxville: in fact... sometimes i eat my spaghetti and salad with "ohashi" |
| 00:10.05 | roxville | i do too felix, i do too |
| 00:10.13 | eshep | its a hell of a lot easier isnt it? |
| 00:10.20 | roxville | yep |
| 00:10.51 | roxville | ohashi also sounds better than "chop sticks" |
| 00:11.16 | eshep | roxville, look in your "my tiki" page wouldja? |
| 00:11.21 | eshep | yeah |
| 00:12.07 | felix | roxville: "chop sticks" :-D in argentina we said "palitos" (little stick, literally) |
| 00:12.16 | felix | s/said/say/ |
| 00:12.53 | eshep | roxville, do you see any user galleries? |
| 00:13.00 | roxville | nope |
| 00:13.24 | eshep | damn |
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| 00:13.41 | sHR00m | the wiki has some weird things.. first. it seems every "faq article" should be one question or so, right?. one thing is a question, one seems to be no question, more a howto. both are named "faqs", which they arent. they are part of a faq |
| 00:13.56 | roxville | lol "for all t-shirt and hat ideas" |
| 00:14.24 | reliver | user galleries are important, let's see. |
| 00:14.51 | felix | s/lunch/dinner/ |
| 00:14.56 | roxville | have fun felix! |
| 00:16.09 | reliver | ah, there is one gallery now, great :-) |
| 00:20.35 | eshep | i hope there better than the engrish classes over here |
| 00:22.16 | roxville | lol |
| 00:22.37 | roxville | si, mucho better! |
| 00:23.16 | roxville | not good: the commands don't get one single lkine in the faq |
| 00:23.29 | roxville | line...if they're long |
| 00:23.59 | Thanatermesis | felix ! |
| 00:24.02 | Thanatermesis | hombre |
| 00:24.08 | Thanatermesis | recibiste mi memo del otro dia ? |
| 00:24.27 | roxville | we would need those little boxes with a separate terminal font |
| 00:24.43 | roxville | Thanatermesis, felix went to lunch and english class |
| 00:28.00 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 00:29.23 | roxville | ok, i put in 2 from my "useful commands" list |
| 00:29.25 | eshep | ah, yes i know the ones |
| 00:29.53 | roxville | eshep, did you see that link ipasted here? |
| 00:30.18 | roxville | for the unofficial "u" guide |
| 00:30.38 | roxville | it is soo easy to understand and do |
| 00:31.12 | roxville | ok, i gotta go to an open mic night, that a buddy of mine hosts |
| 00:31.18 | roxville | see y'all later on |
| 00:31.32 | roxville | oh |
| 00:32.48 | eshep | reliver, yes, exactly what i wanted it to do |
| 00:33.21 | reliver | oh, you saw it already before i could tell you ? |
| 00:33.31 | eshep | yes roxville, ive used it before |
| 00:33.33 | reliver | i had a hard time figuring that out too. |
| 00:33.49 | reliver | you know where it hides ? |
| 00:34.08 | eshep | now on to fixing roxvilles to do the same :) |
| 00:34.13 | reliver | in the little question mark just next to the fox face next to each faq ... |
| 00:34.13 | eshep | no i dont |
| 00:34.34 | eshep | no kiddin? |
| 00:34.51 | reliver | right ? |
| 00:40.59 | reliver | uh, the "fox face" i think is meant to look like tools, right :-) |
| 00:45.37 | eshep | that sound better |
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| 01:03.42 | Elive_user | I'm in shock. I relly don't know if the world is prepared for this. Wow, it's so beuty on it... I'm on shock... |
| 01:11.37 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 01:13.56 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user give me a second... |
| 01:15.56 | Thanatermesis | http://elive.xasein.com/downloads/elpanel-3.avi <--- you need to look this with caution if you are in a shock ;) |
| 01:16.01 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user |
| 01:18.05 | Elive_user | Ok |
| 01:18.14 | Elive_user | I'm on it |
| 01:21.44 | Elive_user | Hey, what thaaa ... I mean: waht the Funk was that? |
| 01:22.27 | Thanatermesis | its the future panel of control for Elive in the next release ;) |
| 01:24.33 | Elive_user | But: Isn't that going to be too heavy? I mean, know i'm impressed whit the speed of this pice. |
| 01:25.24 | Thanatermesis | the panel of control ? no, I have tested it in a 360 Mhz machine and works good :) |
| 01:26.32 | Elive_user | Man, man, man. Congratulations. How is the traduction support? |
| 01:27.41 | reliver | hablas frances, Elive_user ? |
| 01:28.18 | eshep | sorry guys, i gotta get back to work |
| 01:28.51 | Elive_user | Español |
| 01:29.22 | Elive_user | hablo español |
| 01:30.05 | Thanatermesis | quieres Elive en español ? |
| 01:30.44 | Elive_user | Sí, Sería bueno |
| 01:31.23 | Thanatermesis | pero... Elive esta en castellano :) |
| 01:31.29 | Thanatermesis | no eligiste el idioma en el arranque ? |
| 01:31.40 | Elive_user | Sí, sí lo hice |
| 01:32.26 | Elive_user | Pensé que me ivas a ofrecer algo más |
| 01:33.39 | Thanatermesis | en donde mas le faltaria mas soporte castellano ? |
| 01:33.47 | Thanatermesis | lo unico que no esta en castellano son los menus... |
| 01:34.02 | Thanatermesis | pero solo contienen los nombres de los programas... no neceita mas |
| 01:34.11 | Thanatermesis | todos los programas incluido enlightenment estan en castellano |
| 01:34.24 | Elive_user | En realidad todo está bién. Solo son detalles los que fallan. Eso eso, por ahora serían los menues |
| 01:34.31 | Elive_user | que si games |
| 01:34.43 | Elive_user | Office |
| 01:36.29 | Elive_user | ¿Crees que sea molesto para los demas que chatiemos en español? |
| 01:38.08 | Thanatermesis | no mucho, aqui se habla cualquier idioma... |
| 01:38.25 | Thanatermesis | el trabajo para hacer los menus en castellano es realmente enorme... |
| 01:38.30 | Thanatermesis | el resto esta en castellano |
| 01:38.46 | Thanatermesis | y los menus contienen practicamente los nombres de los programas... etc |
| 01:38.50 | Thanatermesis | no creo que se necesite mas |
| 01:42.11 | Elive_user | ¿Cuánto tiempo lleva este proyecto? Es demasiado interesante |
| 01:42.29 | Thanatermesis | pues no lleva mucho tiempo |
| 01:42.36 | Thanatermesis | salio la version 0.1 |
| 01:42.41 | Thanatermesis | que era solo un test malo |
| 01:42.45 | Thanatermesis | la 0.2 nunca salio |
| 01:42.49 | Thanatermesis | y esta es la 0.3 |
| 01:43.04 | Thanatermesis | la siguiente 0.4 tendra el panel de control que has visto, xorg... y poco mas :) |
| 01:43.50 | Elive_user | xorg? es que acaso estamos en xfree... Voy a chequear. |
| 01:44.20 | Thanatermesis | si, estas en xfree ;) |
| 01:44.33 | reliver | Elive_user, falta un volontario entusiasmado como tu que haria una entrevista con Thanatermesis para el Wiki :-) |
| 01:45.51 | Elive_user | y ¿cuál es la wiki? |
| 01:51.36 | Elive_user | Hola. Si no es mucho abuso, quisiera aprovechar la oportunidad para hacerle la entrevista y publicarla en la página del LUG de mi universidad. |
| 01:54.39 | Thanatermesis | hombre... si es cortita :) |
| 01:56.08 | Elive_user | Tan corta como tantas preguntas haga, así que a responder... |
| 01:56.25 | Elive_user | broma, broma :) |
| 01:56.37 | Thanatermesis | jeje |
| 01:56.44 | Thanatermesis | bueno, pregunta y iré respondiendo ;) |
| 01:56.53 | Thanatermesis | luego lo coges todo y metes el articulo... |
| 01:57.07 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, y me das el link asi lo guardo ;) |
| 01:57.13 | Elive_user | Bueno, ya hice una pregunta que no fué bién respondida |
| 01:57.52 | Elive_user | ¿Cuánto tiempo lleva este proyecto? |
| 02:00.30 | Thanatermesis | Durante 1 año fueron pruebas y preparativos, pero el verdadero trabajo para sacar la primera version valable (0.3), empezó hará cosa de 3 o 4 meses |
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| 02:04.35 | Elive_user | Ahora, ¿qué ventajas podría decirse que tiene este LiveCD con respecto a otros como Knoppix o el de ubuntu? |
| 02:04.54 | felix | Elive_user: el entorno elegido |
| 02:06.13 | Thanatermesis | uf |
| 02:07.18 | Thanatermesis | ofrece un entorno grafico muy diferente a lo tipico usado, es rapido, ligero y muy estable, porsupesto no hay que olvidar que su look tambien lo hace diferente de los tipicos escritorios llenos de iconos por todos lados |
| 02:07.57 | Thanatermesis | el sistema en si tambien es mucho mas ligero y liviano que otras distros, se puede lanzar en maquinas de 300 Mhz y responde perfectamente bien |
| 02:08.39 | Thanatermesis | para finalizar esta la novedosa version de enlightenment 17 con todas sus increibles librerias con una atraccion visual muy grande |
| 02:09.34 | Thanatermesis | no solo el enlightenment 17 es lindo sino todos los programas hechos con sus librerias, por ejemplo eclair, evidence... o el futuro Elpanel que se esta construyendo |
| 02:09.34 | felix | el unico problema que tiene es la dudosa virilidad del autor |
| 02:09.39 | felix | por lo demas, es excelente! |
| 02:11.17 | Thanatermesis | enlightenment 17 tambien es uno de los sistemas graficos mas ligeros y rapidos en arrancar aunque parezca lo contrario, hay unas estadisticas en la pagina del autor, incluso es mas ligero que la version 16 de enlightenment, todo lo que sea consumo de ram o de cpu viene a ser por los efectos visuales utilizados en los themes, asi que tienes la opcion de usar un theme lindo lleno de efectos visuales o usar uno sin muchos efectos pero que no |
| 02:11.17 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:11.46 | Thanatermesis | felix ya que sabes francés... porque no le preguntas eso a mi novia cuando venga? ;) xD |
| 02:11.47 | Elive_user | Anteriormente vi un video de ese panel muy llamativo. Para que quede reflejado en esta entrevista ¿cuál es el link para ver el video? |
| 02:13.05 | Thanatermesis | hombre... no esta terminado, esta en contruccion... el aspecto que tendrá esta aun por mejorar, pero bueno, si lo quieres esta aqui: www.elive.xasein.com/downloads/elpanel-3.avi |
| 02:15.44 | Elive_user | Tengo dos preguntas que me sugirieron hacer, y muy buenas... ¿Por qué Enlightenment? |
| 02:16.27 | Elive_user2 | perfecto, Elive_user, gracias para tu ofra :-) |
| 02:17.48 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user porque no me gusta lo rutinario, no me gustan las copias, no le encuentro el merito, veo muchas distros con diferentes nombres y diferentes wallpapers que aparte de eso son todas iguales.... |
| 02:18.03 | Thanatermesis | los mismos programas, los mismos interfaces, estilos... todo igual |
| 02:18.14 | Thanatermesis | puras copias entre ellos y un nombre de author diferentes |
| 02:18.22 | reliver | estoy feliz de ver este entrevista :-) |
| 02:18.40 | Thanatermesis | queria buscar una forma de ofrecer a la gente una forma diferente de usar linux, enlightenment es uno de los escritorios mas diferentes y especiales que hay |
| 02:20.00 | Thanatermesis | un dia lo descubri, lo vi tan diferente que lo empeze a probar, a explorar, empecé a descubrir todas sus enormes e infinitas posiblidades... tambien me di cuenta que trabajaba mucho mas rapido con enlightenment, los accesos a las cosas era mucho mas rapido, tanto usando el raton como haciendolo todo sin el |
| 02:21.23 | Thanatermesis | con Elive no solo quiero ofrecer una distro de linux sino otro punto de vista a el, otra forma de verlo, de usarlo, ofrecer estilo y personalidad, no solo programas |
| 02:22.16 | Elive_user | Se aprecia que habla alguien que trabaja por algo que quiere y no por obligación. Se puede predecir un producto de altísima calidad por eso (acoto al "la catedral y el bazar"). |
| 02:23.24 | Elive_user | Ahora, la siguiente pregunta... |
| 02:24.53 | Elive_user | ¿qué tipo de soprte puede conseguir el usuario de elive? (documentación, foros, listas de correo, etc) |
| 02:25.56 | Thanatermesis | es cierto, un trabajo por obligacion solo se pretende tenerlo terminado, y contra mas pronto mejor, sin interes de mejorarlo pero si de que funcione... cuando se hace algo por placer no hay tiempo en medio, no hay dinero, siempre hay ganas de hacerlo mejor o se sacan mejores ideas, incluso dedicando todo el tiempo de tu vida a el |
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| 02:28.16 | Thanatermesis | pues principalmente con elive se prentende tenerlo todo a mano y sin dificultad de uso, se pretende que el usuario no necesite tener ningun conocimiento previo de algo o saber donde tiene que buscar algo para modificarlo... se pretende de que si necesitas algo, lo tengas a la vista y solo tengas que cogerlo, por ejemplo la gran mayoria de pequeños retoques a hacer en la version 0.3, el usuario nisiquiera a tenido la necesidad de tocar na |
| 02:28.16 | Thanatermesis | da, solo upgradeando el sistema se han solucionado las cosas, por otra parte tambien se a escrito un poco de |
| 02:29.52 | Thanatermesis | varia documentacion, como una lista de preguntas o dudas frecuentes y el como solucionarlo, aun a pesar de todo eso, han habido muchas preguntas del estilo "como cambio esto, como configuro lo otro, como creo un icono" etc... para ello se a decidido hacer un panel de control que se encargue de manejar el sistema, pero no solamente del |
| 02:31.06 | Thanatermesis | entorno grafico en si sino tambien del sistema entero en general, tando administrarlo y configurarlo como tu entorno de trabajo, y se pretenderá incluir todo eso y todas las necesidades que el usuario pueda necesitar en un unico panel de control del sistema, el cual se llamara "Elpanel" |
| 02:32.29 | Elive_user | ¿Por qué Debian? |
| 02:34.56 | Thanatermesis | porque creo que es el sistema con mas posiblidades de todos, con un gran numero de paquetes y que usa seguramente el mejor sistema de paquetes que existe, es el mas estable y bastante facil de usar, pero sobretodo es el mas facil de modificar cualquier cosa o configurar algo de el, cosa que normalmente se suele hacer bastante dificil en la mayoria de las demas distribuciones |
| 02:38.24 | Elive_user | ¿Cuántas personas conforman el grupo de desarrollo en estos momentos?¿qué tipo de soporte has recibido por parte de la comunidad?¿qué tipo de soporte necesitas? |
| 02:42.31 | Thanatermesis | pues basicamente e hecho Elive yo solo y e llegado hasta aqui de esta version de la misma forma, pero tambien a colaborado gente en algunas partes, por ejemplo me han hecho algun que otro grafico, sinplomo a hecho algun par de paquetes, pr0t0cod7 se ocupa ahora principalmente de la pagina web, reliver esta ahora mismo construyendo un wiki, y un par de personas me han dado el hosting y el dominio para el proyecto |
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| 02:44.22 | Thanatermesis | que tipo de soporte necesito? no gran cosa por el momento, de vez en cuando surge alguna cosilla que seria bien que me hecharan una mano pero bueno, asi de buenas a primeras no hay nada que pueda necesitar... mucha gente me viene preguntando si pueden colaborar en algo con el proyecto, pero la verdad es que no se me ocurre nada que pudieran hacer |
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| 02:47.33 | Thanatermesis | bueno si... harian falta mas mirrors, que tengan velocidad y de bastante limite mensual.. ya que los que hay ahora mismo en la pagina van un poco justos... quizas tambien se necesite mirrorear los paquetes a un repositorio extra |
| 02:47.59 | Elive_user | ¿Cuál es el futuro que le ves a elive?¿cuáles son las metas del proyecto a futuro? |
| 02:48.06 | Elive_user2 | kien sabe komo se escribe la arroba? |
| 02:48.36 | Thanatermesis | Bu- , alt-gr + 2 = @ |
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| 02:48.56 | Elive_user | Es decir: este elive es una muy buena distro... |
| 02:51.22 | Thanatermesis | no le veo ninguna meta exacta ni definida, tampoco puedo decir que sucedera en el futuro, pero puedo decir que por el momento pretendo hacer de elive un sistema operativo completo con todo a la mano, sin necesitar nada de compilar cosas ni editar ficheros remotos para configurar el sistema ni nada... digamos que un escritorio completo, con todo su manejo y administracion desde el |
| 02:54.01 | Elive_user | ¿por qué no nos hablas un poco de tu vida? |
| 02:54.54 | Elive_user | ¿Dónde naciste, que haces en la actualidad (estudias, trabajas)?¿cómo conociste Linux? |
| 03:00.06 | Thanatermesis | naci en belgica, de madre belga y padre español, a los 6 años me fui a vivir a españa, a los 12 años tuve mi primer ordenador, descubri el ms-dos y me divertia toqueteando archivos .bat , a los 14 años cogà la radio de un coche y la meti en la unidad de los discos de 5 1/2, le tuve que recortar un lateral porque no cabia pero al final entro, la conecte a los 12 voltios que da la fuente de alimentacion del ordenador y conectandole la |
| 03:00.06 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.08 | Thanatermesis | :) |
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| 03:04.43 | Elive_user | lol Muy bien... |
| 03:07.53 | Richzendy | Elive_user, contribuyo con una pregunta, te ganas la vida de algun modo, k te pueda permitir usar todo tu tiempo programando libremente para la comunidad ? tienes algun tipo de meta personal especifica? te relacionas bien fuera del ordenador con otras personas ? |
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| 03:08.07 | Richzendy | Thanatermesis, weno era para ti, me traiciono el tab :D |
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| 03:09.17 | Richzendy | Thanatermesis, y por cierto, buenas noches :D |
| 03:15.45 | Thanatermesis | Richzendy digamos que ahora mismo estoy cobrando del paro y almenos gracias a ello consigo dedicarle todo el tiempo a Elive, dentro de un par de meses espero ponerme a trabajar tranquilamente y llevar una vida mas normal. Meta? bueno... de momento mi meta es que Elive llegue lo mas lejos posible. Relacionarme con otras personas, claro, tengo amigos por todos lados, pero ahora estoy viviendo en belgica y en parte no conozco mucha gente, po |
| 03:15.46 | Thanatermesis | r otro lado practicamente no salgo de casa, ademas el tiempo aqui es muy frio y malo, y la gente en este pais es un poco mas fria y menos agradable |
| 03:16.19 | lee- | Thanatermesis, como configuro la resoluciones |
| 03:16.24 | lee- | por que la xconf no me abre |
| 03:17.11 | Elive_user | La persona que me recomendó elive no es un conocedor de Linux. Estaba realmente impactado con el elive; me dijo que era el futuro, que mac: a temblar. Tú has sabido explotar el potencial del Enlightenment para lograr efectos en las personas como mi amigo. Ojalá elive llegue tan lejos como esperas. |
| 03:17.15 | Thanatermesis | lee- el xconf a sido quitado porque daba problemas, prueba dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 , sino... tendrás que esperar a que salga el futuro panel de control de Elive :) |
| 03:17.45 | Thanatermesis | gracias Elive_user :) |
| 03:17.55 | Thanatermesis | me alegra oir eso :) |
| 03:18.43 | Richzendy | Thanatermesis, 10x |
| 03:18.48 | Thanatermesis | y aun no se a terminado ;) |
| 03:19.19 | lee- | como reinicio la x |
| 03:19.20 | lee- | _ |
| 03:19.20 | lee- | Thanatermesis, |
| 03:19.30 | Thanatermesis | lee- pues tendras que salir y volver a entrar |
| 03:19.41 | lee- | :/ |
| 03:19.44 | lee- | y la conf |
| 03:19.50 | lee- | por que lo coro liveCD |
| 03:19.52 | Thanatermesis | bueno, hay una manera mas rapida de hacerlo |
| 03:20.10 | Thanatermesis | control - alt - borrar (luego escribe "setup" ) |
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| 03:20.22 | quidam- | buenas noches |
| 03:20.24 | quidam- | :) |
| 03:20.35 | Thanatermesis | le funcionó :) |
| 03:20.49 | Thanatermesis | buenas noches quidam- |
| 03:20.55 | quidam- | hola Thanatermesis |
| 03:21.07 | quidam- | oye ya aprendi a editar bien el grub :P |
| 03:21.22 | quidam- | jejeje no era nada dificil |
| 03:21.31 | Thanatermesis | no, no es dificil |
| 03:21.51 | quidam- | gracias por mandarme a estudiar en vez de decirme como hacerlo |
| 03:21.53 | quidam- | ;) |
| 03:22.00 | Thanatermesis | pero claro, hay que entender un minimo lo que es, lo mejor es seguir el ejemplo de las otras lineas |
| 03:22.25 | Thanatermesis | hombre quidam- ... si tuviera que solucionar los problemas de todo el mundo... no tendria tiempo de hacer elive |
| 03:22.26 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 03:22.39 | quidam- | ja ja ja |
| 03:22.49 | Elive_user | ja ja ja ja |
| 03:23.08 | Thanatermesis | almenos intento ofrecerlo lo mas facil posible al usuario final ;) |
| 03:23.37 | quidam- | pues esta bien |
| 03:23.52 | quidam- | lo unico es que le falta reconocer el pendrive |
| 03:23.53 | Elive_user | <reliver>, <Thanatermesis>: ¿Qué les pareció la entrevista? |
| 03:24.38 | quidam- | pero de resto es una distro muy interesante |
| 03:24.42 | quidam- | :P |
| 03:26.17 | Thanatermesis | pues bien Elive_user ... de echo me alegro que haya terminado porque estoy hecho polvo y no me iria mal dormir un poco, jeje |
| 03:26.25 | Thanatermesis | donde la vas a colgar Elive_user ? |
| 03:27.37 | Elive_user2 | optimo, Elive_user :-), estudias jornalismo si ? |
| 03:27.57 | Elive_user | www.ucvlug.org.ve y talvez en www.velug.org.ve |
| 03:28.03 | Elive_user2 | periodismo, o como se llama en espanol ? |
| 03:28.04 | Elive_user | No, Computación |
| 03:28.24 | Elive_user2 | wow, a multi-literate then :-) |
| 03:28.39 | quidam- | Elive_user pero ese no es tu nick en velug o_O |
| 03:29.00 | Elive_user | No, es jgomo3 |
| 03:29.30 | quidam- | mmm pss casi no entro en velug pero creo haber visto tu nick xD |
| 03:30.10 | reliver | quidam de venezuela tambien ? |
| 03:30.15 | quidam- | sip :) |
| 03:30.19 | quidam- | de merida |
| 03:30.23 | reliver | wow, incredible ... |
| 03:30.40 | reliver | passei un mes en merida hace un ano. |
| 03:30.48 | reliver | tengo amigos ai :-) |
| 03:30.55 | Thanatermesis | ok Elive_user , si vuelves por aqui ya me avisaras sobre el articulo y lo miro, sino a ver si me acuerdo |
| 03:31.00 | Richzendy | quidam-, voy a merida el mes k viene |
| 03:31.14 | reliver | ai mas que disastre estes dias, verdad ? |
| 03:31.16 | quidam- | hey Richzendy |
| 03:31.43 | Elive_user | Seguro te aviso |
| 03:31.57 | quidam- | xD |
| 03:32.15 | Richzendy | Thanatermesis, a ver si le montas a la elive, para la proxima, un repositorio de mp3 "apt-guetable" jejeeej |
| 03:32.41 | Richzendy | aunk uno de porno, no kedaria nada mal :S |
| 03:32.41 | Xiwok | Richzendy: quidam- soy de merida tambien |
| 03:32.47 | quidam- | :O |
| 03:32.58 | quidam- | que bien |
| 03:33.04 | Richzendy | Xiwok, quidam- , yo de san cristobal |
| 03:33.14 | Elive_user | valla, los venezolanos hemos invadido el lugar... |
| 03:33.20 | Elive_user | jajaja |
| 03:33.25 | quidam- | pss parece que si xD |
| 03:33.46 | Xiwok | si ya te vi en talug |
| 03:34.11 | Xiwok | quidam-: #GULMER |
| 03:34.21 | Xiwok | ? |
| 03:34.28 | reliver | ?? como aparecen 3-4 de merida de una vez aqui en el mesmo minuto ? |
| 03:35.21 | Xiwok | reliver: eres de chile ? |
| 03:35.41 | quidam- | reliver, el llamado del software libre xD |
| 03:35.57 | Thanatermesis | Richzendy jeje, bueno, de echo el video de ibm es apt-guetable con el comando de los 5 multi-videos ;) |
| 03:36.01 | reliver | gracias, xiwok, estoy tentando mucho assemblar algunas palabras espanolas ... estoy de suiza. |
| 03:36.43 | reliver | como funciona, quidam ? |
| 03:37.15 | quidam- | ¬¬ |
| 03:37.19 | reliver | me pareci super triste la falta de libertad de expression ahora en venezuela ... |
| 03:38.26 | Elive_user | Tal vez este no sea el lugar adecuado para hablar de eso... |
| 03:38.27 | Richzendy | reliver, jaja ni tanto |
| 03:38.52 | Richzendy | reliver, ahorita puedo salir a la puerta de la casa, gritar "Chavez te odio, mientras pelo las nalgas " y nada me pasa |
| 03:38.53 | Elive_user | reliver -> Invitado a #velug |
| 03:39.08 | quidam- | lo que no pueden decir en persona se lo dicen en las listas |
| 03:39.13 | reliver | Elive_user, piensas porque no estamos en privado ? |
| 03:39.15 | Richzendy | pero si, no es el lugar adecuado |
| 03:39.37 | Elive_user | No, porque es un canal dedicado a elive |
| 03:39.55 | Thanatermesis | bueno gente... |
| 03:40.01 | Thanatermesis | yo me voy a dormir que estoy muerto :) |
| 03:40.10 | quidam- | ciao Thanatermesis |
| 03:40.14 | Thanatermesis | buenas noches a todos |
| 03:41.05 | Xiwok | Thanatermesis: igualmente |
| 03:41.10 | Elive_user | Buenas pués. A descansar |
| 03:41.46 | reliver | no necesitas ser tan stricto, Elive_user. |
| 03:41.59 | Richzendy | Thanatermesis, wenas tengas, k descances |
| 03:42.11 | Xiwok | reliver: lol |
| 03:42.24 | Xiwok | quidam-: que haces en merida ? |
| 03:42.45 | reliver | verdad, su respuesta parecia lleno de miedos en este contexto. |
| 03:42.46 | quidam- | ahorita estoy esperando entrar a la ula |
| 03:42.48 | Elive_user | Bueno, yo no tengo problemas con hablar de eso aquí entonces. Si nadie se opone... |
| 03:42.57 | Elive_user | JAJAJA |
| 03:43.05 | quidam- | jajaja |
| 03:43.16 | ThanaZzzz | ;) |
| 03:43.38 | quidam- | Xiwok pero tambien estoy trabajando |
| 03:43.47 | reliver | ya viste "cual revolucion", la pelicula ? |
| 03:44.01 | quidam- | ? |
| 03:44.09 | quidam- | reliver que pelicula es esa? |
| 03:44.28 | reliver | trata del salvador lider maximo de ay :-) |
| 03:44.37 | Elive_user | No, no la ví. Seguro no se publica por aquí por lo de la "opresión"... jajaja |
| 03:44.46 | reliver | exacto. |
| 03:44.57 | Elive_user | fue sarcasmo, broma. |
| 03:45.18 | reliver | esta hecho da parte de esqualidos, mas es muy neutral y informativo. |
| 03:45.38 | reliver | sarcasmo, piensas ? |
| 03:45.54 | reliver | sarcasmo demasiado real ... |
| 03:47.48 | Elive_user | ¿cómo se supone que falta libertad de expresión aquí? |
| 03:49.13 | reliver | la sociedad esta totalmente polarisada, si ? |
| 03:51.21 | Elive_user | Te doy la razón, pero no toda. Hay como dos polos magnéticos hacia los cuales la gente tiende a irse, pero no es toda la sociedad, y no es tan fuerte |
| 03:52.18 | reliver | ya hace tiempo que el gobierno esta registrando y excluyendo quien vota contro eles, si ? |
| 03:52.21 | Elive_user | De hecho, lo que está sucediendo es que la antigua oposición no tiene casi importancia, se está diluyendo. Y ahora ... |
| 03:52.54 | Elive_user | La oposición la da la misma gente que sigue la revolución... |
| 03:53.13 | Elive_user | Sí, eso pasó, lo de la restricción... |
| 03:54.09 | Elive_user | Y fué algo que no se le ha perdonado al gobierno... |
| 03:54.16 | reliver | no havia revolucion, Elive_user. |
| 03:55.28 | Elive_user | bueno, en realidad yo creo que Venezuela no va a volver a ser como antes, así que por el simple hecho del cambio, pues Sí que ha habido revolución. |
| 03:55.31 | reliver | so cambiaron los supergordos. |
| 03:55.51 | reliver | oque cambio ? |
| 03:56.00 | Elive_user | La gente, la gente... La gente de puebla ha cambiado muchísimo |
| 03:56.10 | reliver | menos empleos ? |
| 03:56.33 | reliver | menos dinero para vivir ? |
| 03:57.13 | reliver | so cambiaron los supergordos. |
| 03:57.17 | Elive_user | Está más educada, más entusiasta, y más trabajadora. Esa misma gente es la que va a derrocar el poder corrupto que se encuentra montado en el gobierno... |
| 03:57.32 | Elive_user | Y no me refiero al presidente, ojo... |
| 03:57.44 | reliver | ah, lo puedes decir, que bien, al menos :-) |
| 03:57.51 | reliver | ah... |
| 03:58.01 | reliver | ya esto no se puede decir, ... |
| 03:58.25 | Elive_user | ¿qué cosa no se puede decir? |
| 03:59.07 | reliver | sabes quanto mas dinero entra por el precio alto del petroleo estes anos ? |
| 03:59.34 | reliver | y sabes donde terminan estes miliardos ? |
| 03:59.47 | quidam- | en el bolsillo del presidente |
| 03:59.55 | quidam- | jejeje |
| 04:00.03 | reliver | ay... |
| 04:00.09 | quidam- | pero el tambien tiene derecho a recivir un sueldito |
| 04:00.12 | quidam- | jejeje |
| 04:00.20 | reliver | si, viva :-) |
| 04:00.57 | reliver | sabes, Elive_user, aqui tambien perdimos la libertad de expresion estes anos. |
| 04:01.28 | reliver | en EEUU principalmente, mas en europa tambien esta mas y mas fuerte ... |
| 04:01.31 | Elive_user | Se que entra tanto dinero que en paises como Noruega (creo) Se depositó cierta cantidad de dinero en la cuenta de todos los ciudadanos... |
| 04:04.11 | Elive_user | Hay que ensar bién hasta que punto es verdad eso. Al menos aquí. |
| 04:04.32 | reliver | si. |
| 04:05.36 | Elive_user | Para mi, aquí simplemente todos tenenmos libertad de expresión... Pero en la práctica, el poder de expresión lo habían tenido los medios de comunicación tradicionales... |
| 04:06.18 | Elive_user | Ahora, en realidad, se les ha quitado poder a ellos, y se le ha dado a otros medios alternativos... |
| 04:06.38 | reliver | ah si ? |
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| 04:06.56 | Elive_user | Lo único malo, es que no era necesario (pienso yo). Internet ya está acabando con los medios alternativos. |
| 04:07.35 | Elive_user | O almenos, le ha dado más poder de expresión a quienes no tenían... |
| 04:07.52 | Elive_user | medios tradicionales* |
| 04:08.14 | Elive_user | Déjame corregir: |
| 04:08.22 | Elive_user | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:08.34 | Elive_user | O almenos, le ha dado más poder de expresión a quienes no tenían... |
| 04:12.39 | Elive_user | Y ¿cómo han perdido la libertad de expresión ustedes? |
| 04:14.03 | Elive_user | reliver |
| 04:14.31 | reliver | si :-) |
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| 04:14.45 | reliver | leendo oque escribiste. |
| 04:14.46 | Elive_user | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:15.21 | Elive_user | aaaa, tranquilo. Tómate el tiempo. Es que correjí algo y talvez confundió un poco |
| 04:16.08 | reliver | aqui la gente tiene miedo de hablar de oque pasa, las guerras ahora en todas partes, |
| 04:16.49 | reliver | porque esta todo observado, cameras, no hay mas privacidade. |
| 04:18.15 | Elive_user | Las malditas guerras... |
| 04:18.32 | reliver | si. |
| 04:19.34 | Elive_user | Sabes, aquí hay revolución, pero no hay guerra. Con sinseridad quisieramos que se tomara nuestra revolución como ejemplo. Es más lenta, más tranquila, pero sin Guerra... |
| 04:19.34 | reliver | Elive_user, me podrias enviar tu entrevista quando la terminas ? |
| 04:20.10 | reliver | no cambio nada importante. |
| 04:20.27 | Elive_user | Sí claro. ¿dónde?. La voy a montar en www.ucvlug.org.ve |
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| 04:21.07 | reliver | elive aroba user-land.org |
| 04:21.31 | roxville | wow, that was a full-scale interview! |
| 04:21.41 | reliver | hello roxville, eshep was not happy leaving now ;) ... |
| 04:21.55 | reliver | yes, well done. |
| 04:22.14 | Elive_user | Hi |
| 04:22.22 | reliver | hi. |
| 04:22.36 | roxville | i got a lot of it, even though my spanish is (a lot) less that perfect |
| 04:22.52 | roxville | shep was not happy? why? |
| 04:23.03 | reliver | oh, we have our private little broadcast here then ? ;) |
| 04:23.19 | reliver | he did'nt say. |
| 04:23.49 | reliver | just usually when he leaves he beautifully writes: "but i'll be back". |
| 04:23.58 | roxville | yeah |
| 04:24.16 | roxville | maybe his wife complained |
| 04:24.26 | roxville | they can do that lol |
| 04:24.50 | reliver | this time he wrote: "doh!" |
| 04:25.22 | reliver | ah, the experienced ones :-) |
| 04:25.33 | roxville | eshep did? but what happened before that? |
| 04:26.20 | reliver | we were talking in spanish, about life in venezuela. |
| 04:26.43 | roxville | ok, and he didn't get most of it |
| 04:27.01 | reliver | that's what i don't know :-) |
| 04:27.19 | roxville | hopefully that was the only reason |
| 04:27.34 | roxville | well i don't think he speaks spanish at all |
| 04:27.39 | reliver | ah. |
| 04:28.04 | roxville | i don't know, but i don't think he does |
| 04:28.24 | reliver | anyway, why would i assume him to be anything mimosa-like like me ? :) |
| 04:28.48 | roxville | reliver, that interview with thana, pick out the goodies for the wiki |
| 04:29.28 | reliver | Elive_user promised he would send it to us when he publishes it. |
| 04:29.35 | roxville | i bet ya $50 that his japanese is better than yours though :) |
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| 04:29.54 | reliver | let's hope :) |
| 04:29.55 | roxville | publishes....cool! |
| 04:30.21 | reliver | sure. it was about time :-) |
| 04:30.26 | roxville | well just save the damn thing then! |
| 04:30.54 | reliver | ever wondered what all those tech writers in the big fat media worldwide do all day long |
| 04:31.20 | reliver | except cashing in on the paybacks for their "reviews" ? :) |
| 04:31.23 | roxville | konichi wa Elive_user2 |
| 04:31.51 | Elive_user | Should i co... Bueno ¿debería corregir los caracteres que no salieron bién? Es que la Ñ no salió bién y las tildes tampoco... |
| 04:31.55 | roxville | lol, good point |
| 04:32.12 | reliver | oh. |
| 04:32.21 | reliver | seria bien, claro. |
| 04:32.43 | Elive_user | Es que por ejemplo Año salió año |
| 04:33.07 | reliver | oh. |
| 04:33.38 | reliver | he says the character encoding does not work in the channel. |
| 04:34.03 | roxville | maybe that's why i could not understand him lol |
| 04:34.13 | reliver | absolutely :-) |
| 04:34.19 | Elive_user | lol |
| 04:34.30 | roxville | well, it should work fine in spanish...right? |
| 04:34.34 | reliver | bueno, padres, nino necesita dormir :-) |
| 04:35.02 | Elive_user | Hey, repeat the email... |
| 04:35.05 | reliver | i never understood those encoding intricacies ... |
| 04:35.30 | reliver | elive aroba user-land.org |
| 04:35.53 | roxville | apt x en es Elive_user are you running from cd or installed? |
| 04:36.12 | Elive_user | Del Cd |
| 04:36.15 | Elive_user | Lo bajé hoy |
| 04:36.56 | Elive_user | From the CD. I downloaded it today |
| 04:36.59 | roxville | apt x en es everything else works with spanish encoding? only xchat does not work? |
| 04:37.34 | roxville | thank you for using english :) i have to almost guess |
| 04:38.29 | reliver | bye all, thanks for the conversation. |
| 04:38.44 | roxville | night reliver sleep tight! |
| 04:39.18 | Elive_user | Hay que poner charset iso-8859-1 |
| 04:39.29 | reliver | thanks :-) |
| 04:39.36 | roxville | :) |
| 04:39.41 | Elive_user | Have to set charset iso-8859-1 |
| 04:40.22 | Elive_user | Bye reliver |
| 04:40.27 | roxville | hmmm... i'm sorry. i can not help you do that on a cd |
| 04:41.44 | roxville | hmmm we can try... |
| 04:41.56 | roxville | open terminal |
| 04:42.13 | roxville | type: su |
| 04:42.46 | roxville | what are your linux skills? i don't want to insult you |
| 04:42.55 | roxville | :) |
| 04:43.13 | Elive_user | JAJAJA. |
| 04:43.27 | Elive_user | I'm not a GURU |
| 04:43.34 | roxville | ok |
| 04:43.50 | roxville | did you type su and hit enter? |
| 04:43.57 | Elive_user | Hay bit wait. Every else work just fine |
| 04:44.20 | Elive_user | ready |
| 04:44.53 | Elive_user | I did it |
| 04:45.03 | roxville | apt-get update |
| 04:45.50 | roxville | apt-get install keybconf |
| 04:47.19 | roxville | is it working? |
| 04:47.36 | Elive_user | well it's working. Have to wait |
| 04:47.49 | roxville | ok, good |
| 04:48.23 | roxville | when it's done downloading and installing, type: keybconf |
| 04:48.55 | Elive_user | ok |
| 04:49.05 | roxville | choose qwerty and your lingo-option |
| 04:49.35 | roxville | if you have a qwerty keyboard |
| 04:50.10 | roxville | remember that this program will be gone when you reboot |
| 04:52.15 | Elive_user | Ey, I was told another solution. To COnfigure the X-Xhat. |
| 04:52.20 | Elive_user | X_Chat |
| 04:52.36 | Elive_user | The keyboard was good. |
| 04:52.46 | Elive_user | look |
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| 04:53.10 | Elive_user | X-Xhat --> Server List --> Edit --> Charset: |
| 04:53.21 | Elive_user | And set the one you want |
| 04:53.41 | Elive_user | After choose the server you conected. |
| 04:54.51 | roxville | look at that! |
| 04:55.02 | roxville | awesome, thank you! |
| 04:56.52 | roxville | i opened the wrong xchat prefs |
| 04:57.00 | roxville | and didn't see it |
| 04:57.34 | roxville | i'm from sweden, but live in the us, so i use keybconf all the time |
| 04:58.31 | Elive_user | I could susgest... Did i write it right? |
| 04:58.43 | roxville | suggest |
| 04:59.32 | roxville | Thanatermesis_, couldn't sleep? |
| 05:00.44 | roxville | Elive_user, you are so right... you asked for charset, and i gave you keymap |
| 05:00.47 | roxville | sorry |
| 05:01.05 | roxville | or keyboard layout |
| 05:02.07 | roxville | i apologize |
| 05:03.01 | roxville | time for me to go to sleep now |
| 05:03.03 | Elive_user | wait, easy, i want to ask: I coul suggest that when a user choose his lenguaje the x-chat may be configured whit the apropiate charset? |
| 05:03.13 | Elive_user | good night |
| 05:03.44 | roxville | i thought it was, i'll look into it tomorrow, ok? |
| 05:04.00 | roxville | have a good day! |
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| 05:10.26 | Mutacion | with elivecd i can install it on the harddrive? |
| 05:10.38 | quidam- | yes |
| 05:10.44 | quidam- | its easy |
| 05:11.43 | Mutacion | i insert the elive cd.. restart pc.. when i boot from the cd.. i got a menu.. but i cant find the righ one so i can install it on the harddrive |
| 05:12.28 | quidam- | i know you speak spanish please just write in spanish |
| 05:12.42 | Mutacion | pinche quidam culero |
| 05:12.44 | Mutacion | haha no te habia visto haha |
| 05:12.47 | quidam- | jajajaja |
| 05:13.16 | Mutacion | ando bien empinado arreglando pcs y haciendo mil cosas.. tmb con el server qe me dieron qe ta en centOS y ni librerias tiene pa compilar haha..casi qe es linux from scratch |
| 05:13.22 | Mutacion | tons.. cual es el menu pa instalarlo w? |
| 05:13.30 | quidam- | esta en la barra |
| 05:13.31 | Mutacion | entro.. me sale el Menu.. pero no veo donde isntalarlo |
| 05:13.43 | quidam- | es la carpeta de la derecha |
| 05:13.44 | Mutacion | ok.. en la barra dice F1 F2 y F3 |
| 05:13.48 | quidam- | la de configuracion |
| 05:14.37 | Mutacion | haber |
| 05:15.50 | Mutacion | a ver... |
| 05:15.54 | Mutacion | ando en el menu |
| 05:16.01 | quidam- | en la barra |
| 05:16.07 | quidam- | que sale en la parte inferior |
| 05:16.09 | Mutacion | Elive(etc etc etc..) |
| 05:16.20 | quidam- | en la que sale el icono de firefox |
| 05:16.22 | Mutacion | en BOOT OPTIONS? |
| 05:16.26 | quidam- | no |
| 05:16.47 | Mutacion | mas abajo? donde tan las F's? |
| 05:17.21 | quidam- | mira |
| 05:17.22 | quidam- | http://elivecd.org/gb/Docs/index.html#0 |
| 05:17.25 | Mutacion | Submenu -> boot installed elive? |
| 05:17.28 | quidam- | alli aparece como instalarlo |
| 05:17.58 | Mutacion | ah!! es adentro! |
| 05:18.08 | Mutacion | yo pnse qe tenia qe instalarlo desde antes de entrar al grafico! |
| 05:18.27 | Mutacion | haberlo dicho antes :P jiji |
| 05:19.51 | quidam- | jajajaja |
| 05:19.56 | quidam- | por eso te decia |
| 05:20.00 | quidam- | que no es nada dificil |
| 05:20.03 | quidam- | :P |
| 05:20.17 | Mutacion | haha pos yo qe iba a saber.. esa teconologia no me habia tocado xD |
| 05:20.59 | quidam- | jajajaja |
| 05:22.03 | Mutacion | a ver instalemos :P |
| 05:22.30 | quidam- | pss anda :) |
| 05:24.39 | Mutacion | mmm... |
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| 05:33.19 | Elive_user | Bueno, a dormir... CHAO |
| 05:34.37 | quidam- | ciao |
| 05:35.35 | Mutacion | nos vemos |
| 05:35.47 | Mutacion | oye quidman.. habra mas templates para e17? |
| 05:35.59 | Mutacion | el qe trae por default me gutan las estrellitas del fondo jiji |
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| 05:59.40 | Mutacion | muy bonito! xD |
| 05:59.46 | Mutacion | lizxto elive isntalado en la lap jiji |
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| 06:00.17 | quidam- | xD |
| 06:00.34 | Mutacion | ta bien chido |
| 06:00.38 | Mutacion | no tndras plugins por ahi w? |
| 06:00.53 | quidam- | nop |
| 06:01.19 | Mutacion | no sabia qe trai entrance..es la mamada esta instalacion jiji |
| 06:01.36 | Mutacion | como se si es e16 o e17 |
| 06:02.00 | Mutacion | orale trae k 2.6 |
| 06:11.05 | Mutacion | ah ya vi.. :O |
| 06:11.12 | Mutacion | qe shiuuulada! |
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| 07:18.47 | Elive_user | hi |
| 07:19.09 | Elive_user | im using elive 0.1 and i know it? old |
| 07:19.21 | Elive_user | but the keyboard is not set up well |
| 07:19.34 | Elive_user | cant do a AT character, or slashes and backslashes |
| 07:19.45 | Elive_user | is there a command to switch to a diff key layout_ |
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| 11:50.03 | roxville | morning ppl :) |
| 11:53.51 | roxville | lol, at distrowatch there's an add... buy the linux superpack $299.95. you get 52 CD's and 1 DVD |
| 11:54.20 | roxville | "i'm gonna buy it and install them all!" |
| 11:54.44 | roxville | hey eshep |
| 11:55.08 | eshep | i think ive installed about 52 different OSs this year |
| 11:55.16 | eshep | howdy |
| 11:55.30 | roxville | this year? 1 a week? |
| 11:55.31 | eshep | damn my volumes loud |
| 11:55.58 | eshep | yeah, maybe more |
| 11:56.12 | eshep | i like to try out all the new ones |
| 11:56.24 | roxville | thaha was interviewed yesterday |
| 11:57.04 | eshep | by distrowatch? |
| 11:57.16 | roxville | i like to do that too...but i've created a filter now... it takes something special for me to try an RPM based distro |
| 11:57.33 | roxville | no, some spanish something.. |
| 11:57.43 | eshep | yeah, about the only rpm based one i like is suse |
| 11:58.08 | eshep | well crap, that means i cant read it |
| 11:58.17 | roxville | i came back, and thana had typed all kinds of stuff in between a q from an Elive_user |
| 11:58.49 | roxville | i saw belgium and other things among what he'd typed |
| 11:59.03 | roxville | so i figured it must be an inteview |
| 11:59.13 | eshep | i saw that, the guy didnt change his nick all day |
| 11:59.34 | roxville | i guess he was "under Cover" lol |
| 12:00.17 | eshep | or maybe just a new guy with lots of problems |
| 12:00.28 | roxville | i have never seen thana type that much, so i figured it was something special/important |
| 12:01.52 | eshep | well, im glad i didnt start apting everything |
| 12:02.20 | roxville | LOL, yeah, you would have been busy! |
| 12:02.31 | roxville | i just wish i knew spanish better |
| 12:02.38 | eshep | and very very anoying |
| 12:03.15 | roxville | our friend reliver said your bye msg was "doh!" |
| 12:03.48 | eshep | oh yeah, i forgot about that |
| 12:04.11 | roxville | oh, wow, he's logged off too...i didn't think that guy had a life at all |
| 12:04.49 | eshep | its cause the only time i leave is for "technical dificulties" |
| 12:05.06 | roxville | i guess he had to ski downtown and get some more ramen-packs |
| 12:05.20 | eshep | yeah he hopped off about an hour ago |
| 12:05.32 | eshep | HA |
| 12:05.50 | roxville | what technical difficulties" ? |
| 12:06.32 | *** join/#elive nomed (n=daniele@host227-58.pool8260.interbusiness.it) |
| 12:06.37 | roxville | i'm just glad i figured out how to actuall ANSWER the questions in the FAQ |
| 12:06.43 | eshep | AH.evi.GH.den.EM.ce |
| 12:07.11 | eshep | it looks a little better that way |
| 12:07.31 | eshep | than having the anser in the description |
| 12:09.56 | roxville | lol |
| 12:10.30 | roxville | ok, i have to save that |
| 12:10.48 | roxville | it's too early for me to decipher that! |
| 12:11.33 | eshep | its my most common "technical difficulty" |
| 12:12.38 | roxville | ok, i think i understand |
| 12:12.54 | roxville | almost lol |
| 12:13.15 | eshep | almost, HA |
| 12:15.28 | roxville | it's usually family stuff... |
| 12:16.49 | eshep | yeah, but i stay logged in for that |
| 12:17.31 | roxville | work... |
| 12:17.39 | roxville | bathroom... |
| 12:18.36 | roxville | wow, a 19yr old guy in sweden was trying to save his g/f from comitting suicide by standing in front of a train |
| 12:18.46 | roxville | the train ran over him |
| 12:19.39 | roxville | so the question is: who's gonna stop her now? |
| 12:19.54 | eshep | not me |
| 12:20.00 | roxville | lol |
| 12:20.06 | eshep | shes dangerous |
| 12:20.20 | roxville | yep, bad news |
| 12:22.19 | roxville | should we put more stuff in the faq? |
| 12:22.34 | roxville | i like the idea of a guide better |
| 12:23.27 | roxville | but someone's gonna ask me to write it, so...i won't say anything lol |
| 12:24.20 | eshep | brb |
| 12:26.45 | roxville | ok |
| 12:30.38 | eshep | i think we should keep goin with the faq |
| 12:30.58 | eshep | ive always wanted to see one done right |
| 12:31.13 | eshep | you know, with meaningfull questions and all |
| 12:33.33 | roxville | lol |
| 12:33.50 | roxville | "why does it hurt when i pee?" |
| 12:35.26 | roxville | A: "because your fstab is out of whack" |
| 12:36.40 | roxville | $ ln /dev/pee/hurt /dev/pee/nohurt |
| 12:36.42 | eshep | lol, what a geek |
| 12:36.52 | eshep | LOL |
| 12:41.59 | roxville | i have a 'useful commands" document, so i don't have to ask every friggin' time i have the same prob. |
| 12:42.14 | roxville | just copy and paste from here |
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| 12:43.30 | roxville | we can make reliver translate that interview with thana, that should keep him busy for a while! |
| 12:44.12 | eshep | it was only a couple of hours |
| 12:44.48 | eshep | we could incorperate your commands list into the faq |
| 12:45.18 | roxville | that's what i'm doing! |
| 12:46.05 | roxville | prob is, after i started doing that...it's been kinda slow on ppl asking tghose kinda of q's here |
| 12:48.52 | eshep | dont worry, i used my crackerjack decoder ring |
| 12:50.01 | roxville | LOL |
| 12:51.14 | roxville | ok, i've posted all my "useful commands" in the faq now. you posted one of 'em too |
| 12:52.48 | roxville | wtf? what happened to my wiki gretting stuff? |
| 12:52.54 | roxville | it's gone! |
| 12:53.00 | roxville | greeting |
| 12:54.00 | roxville | aahh, somebody went in and "cleaned up" a little! |
| 12:54.06 | roxville | whew? |
| 12:54.10 | roxville | whew! |
| 12:56.16 | roxville | was it you or reliver? |
| 12:56.19 | eshep | the faq in this thing is a little painfull to navigate |
| 12:56.27 | eshep | it was reliver |
| 12:56.35 | *** join/#elive nomed (n=daniele@host2-121.pool8254.interbusiness.it) |
| 12:56.49 | eshep | hi nomed |
| 12:57.14 | nomed | hi |
| 12:57.14 | roxville | that's what i thought |
| 12:57.16 | roxville | brb |
| 12:58.12 | eshep | nomed, like elive? |
| 12:58.27 | nomed | ohh yes :) |
| 12:58.51 | eshep | are you an e user? |
| 13:02.55 | nomed | kind of |
| 13:06.56 | eshep | whats your impression of elive? |
| 13:13.42 | nomed | well .. |
| 13:13.45 | roxville | nomed, we would like to help you, but we can't unless you tell us what you know first |
| 13:14.04 | nomed | o0 |
| 13:14.23 | eshep | roxville, check out the image gallery |
| 13:14.33 | roxville | ok, i will! |
| 13:14.44 | roxville | nomed i was just kidding, man :) |
| 13:14.53 | nomed | :DD |
| 13:15.28 | nomed | i was thinking there was another nomed here before i arrived :D |
| 13:16.10 | roxville | :) |
| 13:16.19 | nomed | eshep, elive is really cool .. it gives you an "edesktop" env configured and ready to use |
| 13:16.32 | roxville | eshep... e17 modules? i see the listing, but no images |
| 13:16.40 | nomed | i think it should improve something ... |
| 13:16.57 | nomed | for it would be nice to have an iconrc file for gtk2 |
| 13:17.16 | nomed | to have a better integration ...between apps |
| 13:17.41 | eshep | integration? |
| 13:17.57 | eshep | roxville, not the file gallery |
| 13:18.01 | eshep | image |
| 13:18.31 | nomed | i mean why not to use the same icons used in elive menu |
| 13:19.19 | nomed | you can have an idea on what i mean from iconrc in xfce4-icon-theme |
| 13:21.04 | roxville | eshep, i like it! |
| 13:21.09 | roxville | gimp? |
| 13:21.44 | eshep | is there another? |
| 13:21.54 | roxville | lol |
| 13:22.30 | eshep | i like it. thanks for the idea nomed, ill pass it on |
| 13:22.40 | roxville | you could have logged into windows or yer wife's ibook and done it in PS |
| 13:23.13 | eshep | yeah but those would have the gimp on em too |
| 13:23.19 | eshep | hell, its free |
| 13:23.58 | roxville | but..so is PS...isn't it? |
| 13:24.01 | roxville | :) |
| 13:24.33 | eshep | well...in that case...everything is |
| 13:25.56 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.31 | eshep | my uncle has PS Deluxe, its really. but it seems the marketing folks at adobe think the same thing. |
| 13:28.36 | roxville | nomed...i think they are all the same icons, it's just evidence |
| 13:29.07 | nomed | roxville, what u mean? |
| 13:29.31 | nomed | if you open synaptic ... what icons do you see? |
| 13:30.45 | roxville | oh, i see what you mean...yes, the gtk2 icons |
| 13:31.41 | roxville | eshep, our hound dog might be able to get info on that? |
| 13:31.50 | roxville | what would thana say? |
| 13:32.02 | roxville | "for what you need this icons?" |
| 13:32.15 | roxville | :) |
| 13:32.49 | nomed | rookmoot, i don't need it ... |
| 13:32.54 | roxville | how the hell do you put the exqusite icons in gtk2? |
| 13:33.33 | nomed | rookmoot, i don't and i will not ... maybe some devels would do that |
| 13:33.41 | nomed | but i don't really care about it |
| 13:34.59 | roxville | nomed, i was just kidding around |
| 13:35.21 | roxville | it's a great idea! we just gotta figue out how to do it |
| 13:35.55 | roxville | so far, i have never seen gtk2 integration with the icon theme |
| 13:38.49 | roxville | but i'm really intigued now! |
| 13:38.57 | roxville | introgued even |
| 13:39.06 | roxville | or intrigued |
| 13:40.30 | eshep | typings going great today |
| 13:41.10 | roxville | yeah...i'd like to blame my daughter for it, but...she's watching sesame street |
| 13:41.51 | roxville | eshep, how'd ya like my thana impersonation? |
| 13:43.45 | roxville | have you ever seen anything but gtk2 icons in gtk2 apps? in any distro? |
| 13:44.16 | nomed | rookmoot, in this case i can tell you how :DD |
| 13:44.24 | nomed | roxville, |
| 13:44.27 | rookmoot | nomed, stop it !!!! |
| 13:44.28 | rookmoot | :D |
| 13:45.00 | roxville | LOL |
| 13:45.24 | roxville | type rox before you hit tab nomed |
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| 13:46.45 | kender | hi |
| 13:46.50 | nomed | roxville, |
| 13:47.16 | roxville | hi kender , como esta? |
| 13:47.21 | nomed | what is the format of that icons ? |
| 13:47.24 | roxville | yes nomed ? |
| 13:47.33 | kender | hi roxville |
| 13:47.36 | kender | bien gracias :) |
| 13:47.38 | kender | y vos? |
| 13:47.41 | nomed | those icons .. |
| 13:48.08 | roxville | see? works a lot better this way..and gives poor rookmoot time to do other things :) |
| 13:48.34 | roxville | yes, the icons... please tell me, coz i don't know |
| 13:48.55 | roxville | kender, muy bien :) |
| 13:49.28 | nomed | how the hell do you put the exqusite icons in gtk2? <-- i'm not using elive actually and i can't check .. is it possible they are png? |
| 13:49.55 | roxville | i think gtk2 uses xpm or something |
| 13:50.02 | nomed | png svg |
| 13:50.07 | nomed | both |
| 13:50.17 | nomed | not xpm |
| 13:50.22 | roxville | ok |
| 13:50.33 | rookmoot | roxville, ;) |
| 13:51.54 | roxville | then i suppose it would be possible...somehow |
| 13:52.50 | eshep | roxville, check out the faq page now |
| 13:53.01 | eshep | i cleaned it up some more |
| 13:53.23 | eshep | i think i figured it out now, finally |
| 13:55.41 | Elive_user2 | hello guys :-) |
| 13:55.54 | eshep | hi Elive_user2 |
| 13:55.58 | Elive_user2 | eshep, no more doh ? :) |
| 13:56.22 | eshep | oooooooooo, tricky tricky |
| 13:56.31 | eshep | sneaky sneaky |
| 13:56.49 | roxville | eshep, figured what out????? |
| 13:57.03 | eshep | that damned wiki |
| 13:57.28 | eshep | reliver, check out the faq page now |
| 13:57.28 | reliver | oh. still puking all those error messages, the wiki, eshep ? |
| 13:58.19 | eshep | roxville, i copied all of your entries into "catagories" |
| 13:58.37 | nomed | roxville, eshep here an ex: http://phpfi.com/79572 |
| 14:00.30 | roxville | yes nomed, that would give you something to do during the long, cold, dark italian winter nights :) |
| 14:00.40 | roxville | ok eshep |
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| 14:01.23 | eshep | nomed, ok, i get it now. but sorry i dont know how to do that for e16 nor e17 |
| 14:01.28 | eshep | yet |
| 14:01.47 | nomed | check in you $HOME |
| 14:01.55 | nomed | file .gtkrc-2.0 |
| 14:02.02 | roxville | looks good eshep |
| 14:02.20 | eshep | nomed, have you asked anyone at #e about this? |
| 14:02.45 | nomed | what ? |
| 14:02.50 | eshep | roxville, you want to remove your old ones? |
| 14:03.06 | reliver | eshep, do you some times get error messages printed on top of the wiki pages ? |
| 14:03.12 | roxville | nomed, you are MORE than welcome to join us! eshep, reliver and i are just users that wanna help out a little |
| 14:03.19 | eshep | the #e channel |
| 14:03.44 | nomed | i normally speack directly with Thanatermesis_ |
| 14:04.23 | nomed | i'll tell this to him when he'll be around here |
| 14:04.25 | eshep | reliver, no i just get the red flashy in firefox |
| 14:04.43 | reliver | red flashy ? |
| 14:04.51 | eshep | im in e17 |
| 14:05.15 | roxville | omg, my daughter just open an un-popped bag of micowave popcorn and was sucking the fat off the kernels |
| 14:05.19 | nomed | bueno tios hasta luego |
| 14:05.21 | eshep | when an app stalls, the title bar flashes red |
| 14:05.27 | *** part/#elive nomed (n=daniele@host2-121.pool8254.interbusiness.it) |
| 14:05.37 | reliver | oh, i see. |
| 14:06.19 | reliver | eshep, would you mind moving "e17 theme doesn't show up in menu after install" into the FAQ "e17 configuration" ? |
| 14:06.26 | eshep | i just had the flashing subside a few minutes ago |
| 14:06.35 | reliver | good. |
| 14:06.46 | eshep | did it already |
| 14:07.34 | roxville | thanks nomed |
| 14:07.46 | eshep | roxville, you want me to remove your old faq? |
| 14:08.00 | roxville | sure, go ahead! |
| 14:08.35 | eshep | done |
| 14:08.58 | reliver | ah, i see, eshep, thank you, the question just changed name. can you please delete the old entry ? |
| 14:09.02 | eshep | reliver, im gettin good with this sucker |
| 14:09.15 | reliver | great. |
| 14:09.26 | eshep | did it already |
| 14:10.09 | eshep | it must be the time difference... |
| 14:10.56 | roxville | lol |
| 14:11.37 | eshep | roxville, "Create New FAQ" block at the top is for "catagories" |
| 14:11.55 | roxville | eshep, how'd you change your user profile...with flag and all? |
| 14:12.11 | roxville | shouldn't it be "categories"? |
| 14:12.20 | eshep | then use the icons to the right of each one to add questions |
| 14:12.32 | roxville | ok |
| 14:12.49 | eshep | e a....both are vowels |
| 14:13.17 | *** join/#elive sinplomo (n=sinplomo@adsl196-9-93-206-196.adsl196-3.iam.net.ma) |
| 14:13.37 | eshep | to hit the e i have to move my finger |
| 14:13.43 | eshep | hi sinplomo |
| 14:14.05 | sinplomo | hi eshep and others |
| 14:14.15 | reliver | nice, the entries about how to see the CD/DVD drive. |
| 14:14.50 | reliver | what do you think eshep and roxville, are these problems really |
| 14:15.56 | eshep | i had the cd problem |
| 14:15.56 | roxville | duh, that's whatmost ppl ask about |
| 14:15.56 | roxville | i had it too |
| 14:15.56 | reliver | "hardware" problems, or, because it is just software configuration problems, |
| 14:16.03 | reliver | should we better call this FAQ "Troulbe Resolver" or something like this ? |
| 14:16.17 | roxville | but...reliver, we're not gonna tell ppl ro take out the drive and shake it to see if anything is loose |
| 14:16.40 | eshep | not so much "hardware problems" as "problems with hardware" i think |
| 14:16.45 | reliver | is is more "Troubleshooting", you see ? |
| 14:17.09 | roxville | ok, troubleshooting..i can dig it |
| 14:17.38 | reliver | yes, people should find all the answers in just a few FAQs, right ? |
| 14:17.42 | eshep | changed |
| 14:17.47 | reliver | thanks. |
| 14:17.57 | eshep | np |
| 14:18.13 | roxville | eshep, you see how good reliver gets after he gets some gulasch-soup in him? |
| 14:18.25 | reliver | oh, looks nice now, eshep :) |
| 14:18.27 | roxville | reliuver, you rock dude! :) |
| 14:18.41 | eshep | hes not french |
| 14:18.55 | reliver | would be nice :-) |
| 14:19.11 | reliver | where's the soup :?) |
| 14:19.23 | reliver | oh :-) |
| 14:19.59 | reliver | could you please try this, eshep: |
| 14:20.06 | eshep | fire |
| 14:20.08 | reliver | quick edit: support |
| 14:20.50 | eshep | proceed at my own peril, huh? |
| 14:21.12 | reliver | do you also get 2 error messages printed on top of the page ? |
| 14:21.59 | eshep | nope |
| 14:22.04 | roxville | i love the config menu! |
| 14:22.30 | reliver | hmm, can you go to another page, and let roxville try ? |
| 14:22.50 | roxville | i already did! |
| 14:22.52 | eshep | did yall see, theres a new "config panel" in e17 |
| 14:23.15 | eshep | im off |
| 14:23.18 | roxville | i added swedish to your list, reliver |
| 14:23.27 | reliver | i am lost enough in e16 for now... |
| 14:23.29 | roxville | ok eshep, sleep tight dude! |
| 14:23.50 | reliver | ah. internationalisation ? great. |
| 14:23.57 | eshep | no silly, im off t h e p a g e |
| 14:24.25 | roxville | but i already went in and edited in spite of the warnings |
| 14:25.01 | eshep | those are just merely a suggestion, right? |
| 14:25.08 | reliver | roxville, you got error messages printed on top of the page ? |
| 14:25.44 | eshep | reliver, i did get errors on the page |
| 14:25.47 | roxville | no, just in boxes |
| 14:25.50 | eshep | when i used links |
| 14:26.08 | reliver | ah, ok. then you saw my text in the support entry ? |
| 14:26.24 | eshep | it looked good |
| 14:26.29 | reliver | ok, eshep, i need to resolve these. |
| 14:26.35 | roxville | well i gotta go tend to my daughter...she's getting restless... soon :) |
| 14:26.51 | reliver | eeh, ok, roxville. |
| 14:27.01 | roxville | one last thing...this is the wiki, right? |
| 14:27.14 | reliver | i am talking about the wiki, yes. |
| 14:27.21 | roxville | ok |
| 14:27.25 | reliver | so ? |
| 14:27.29 | eshep | im not having any problems with it |
| 14:27.47 | eshep | 0 errors |
| 14:28.15 | reliver | that's bad, eshep, because i can not even see the pages anymore when i try to save them. |
| 14:28.37 | reliver | ok, i hope roxville left the support page. |
| 14:28.38 | roxville | there, it just said welcome to elive..but this is not the home page |
| 14:28.57 | roxville | i'm logged out |
| 14:29.05 | reliver | bye |
| 14:29.19 | roxville | i mean, out of the wiki |
| 14:29.19 | eshep | se ya later dude |
| 14:29.50 | reliver | eshep, you entered support in quick edit, |
| 14:29.58 | reliver | then you saw my text, right ? |
| 14:30.05 | roxville | good luck guys! |
| 14:30.15 | reliver | good luck roxville |
| 14:31.44 | eshep | reliver, when is it giving the errors after you hit the save button? |
| 14:32.10 | reliver | also, but please answer my questions if possible step by step :-) |
| 14:32.51 | eshep | yes, via quick edit |
| 14:32.59 | eshep | and i saw the text |
| 14:33.17 | reliver | ok, can you hit save there please ? |
| 14:33.41 | eshep | same as the support link text from earlier right? |
| 14:33.50 | eshep | sure |
| 14:34.09 | reliver | do you get error messages printed on top of the resulting page ? |
| 14:34.38 | eshep | no, it looks normal :/ |
| 14:34.50 | reliver | ah. |
| 14:35.01 | reliver | i get: |
| 14:35.03 | reliver | Notice: Only variable references should be returned by reference in /home/hope/public_html/user-land/elive/lib/adodb/adodb.inc.php on line 2741 |
| 14:35.03 | reliver | Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/hope/public_html/user-land/elive/lib/adodb/adodb.inc.php:2741) in /home/hope/public_html/user-land/elive/tiki-editpage.php on line 625 |
| 14:35.11 | reliver | and just a blank page ... |
| 14:35.45 | eshep | eeeeeeewww |
| 14:36.18 | reliver | thanks for the help, i am trying to contact the hoster again. |
| 14:36.51 | reliver | now i can not even get to http://user-land.org/elive, same errors only. |
| 14:36.55 | eshep | ill see if i can break mine in the mean time |
| 14:37.03 | reliver | it's like that since yesterday. |
| 14:37.49 | eshep | whoa! |
| 14:38.14 | eshep | i just opened that link in a new tab, |
| 14:38.39 | eshep | and it has the old home page text |
| 14:38.41 | eshep | ??? |
| 14:39.39 | reliver | ah. |
| 14:39.55 | reliver | can you give me the URL ? |
| 14:40.31 | eshep | http://user-land.org/elive/tiki-index.php?page=Elive |
| 14:41.13 | reliver | i pasted the text there, you think it should be changed ? |
| 14:42.03 | reliver | it says: "Welcome to the wiki of Elive, .." |
| 14:42.10 | reliver | right ? |
| 14:42.20 | eshep | aha, i didnt notice it before. two pages, ok |
| 14:42.29 | eshep | yes |
| 14:42.41 | eshep | for "Home Page" |
| 14:42.53 | reliver | i tried to delete the text in quick edit: homepage, but could not. |
| 14:43.10 | eshep | and the elive bio on the "Elive" one |
| 14:43.25 | eshep | both under "Top Pages" |
| 14:43.28 | eshep | right? |
| 14:43.40 | reliver | you know, i changed the installation so the "Elive" page is the initial page, good ? |
| 14:44.11 | eshep | i think that would be better |
| 14:44.30 | eshep | that should be the first thing folks see |
| 14:44.33 | reliver | because this way we have the big "Elive" as welcoming title. |
| 14:44.44 | eshep | bingo |
| 14:44.46 | reliver | yes. it is now, right ? |
| 14:46.00 | eshep | yup, works |
| 14:46.11 | reliver | ok. |
| 14:46.31 | eshep | you still getting errors? |
| 14:48.23 | reliver | yes, still when i try to modify the "Support" page for example. |
| 14:48.43 | reliver | they come because the hoster does not assign enough RAM for the php. |
| 14:48.46 | reliver | apparently. |
| 14:49.39 | eshep | i wonder why i dont get em... |
| 14:52.40 | reliver | yes. |
| 14:53.34 | reliver | apparently roxville did see some, but his baby too ;) |
| 14:56.02 | reliver | oh, sinplomo is logged in on the wiki too, sinplomo do you get error messages too there ? |
| 14:56.16 | sinplomo | when i logged ? |
| 14:56.45 | reliver | no, when editing. |
| 14:56.55 | reliver | on top of the pages. |
| 14:57.05 | reliver | eshep, what browser do you use ? |
| 14:57.16 | reliver | i am using firefox 1.0.6 |
| 14:57.53 | eshep | im on 1.0.4 |
| 14:58.42 | eshep | which reminds me... |
| 15:00.03 | reliver | yes, 1.0.4 has some pop up spam problems. |
| 15:01.38 | eshep | 1.0.6-5 comin up |
| 15:05.52 | sinplomo | reliver, http://user-land.org/elive/tiki-index.php?page=Speedtouch+USB+Modems+on+Elive |
| 15:06.03 | sinplomo | and i have no problem editing pages |
| 15:06.16 | sinplomo | reliver, correct it, my english is bad :( |
| 15:07.20 | eshep | reliver, you want it in the faq? |
| 15:09.27 | reliver | oh, nice, sinplomo :-) |
| 15:09.44 | eshep | sinplomo, im checking the english right now |
| 15:09.53 | reliver | i didn't dare to think that you could use whole phrases as page titles. |
| 15:10.04 | reliver | that's a nice wiki for this. |
| 15:10.27 | sinplomo | I builded eagle-usb module for elive |
| 15:10.47 | sinplomo | i have to test it, but i don't have an eagle-usb modem ... |
| 15:10.49 | reliver | eshep, whenever you think it is a frequently asked question, it is nice to reference it in the FAQ, i think ? |
| 15:11.06 | reliver | did you see how to make links within the wiki ? |
| 15:12.22 | eshep | reliver, i just put the whole thing in the faq. what do ya think? |
| 15:13.21 | reliver | amazing, your detective work, sinplomo ... |
| 15:13.38 | reliver | no, better just a link, eshep. |
| 15:13.53 | sinplomo | detective ? |
| 15:13.57 | reliver | because if we repeat text, then if it gets edited in one place, |
| 15:14.18 | reliver | then there might be errors left on the other page. |
| 15:14.35 | reliver | yes, sinplomo, all those settings, ... |
| 15:15.19 | eshep | ok, i just thought it fit better on the faq page. delete the faq one? |
| 15:15.50 | sinplomo | reliver, i didn't code the driver lol |
| 15:15.59 | sinplomo | y just packed and adapted it for elive |
| 15:16.03 | sinplomo | *I |
| 15:16.04 | reliver | sinplomo i have a problem with the formating of |
| 15:16.05 | reliver | http://user-land.org/elive/tiki-index.php?page=Speedtouch+USB+Modems+on+Elive |
| 15:16.10 | reliver | in my browser: |
| 15:16.43 | reliver | i get some very long lines with empty space, so i have to scroll to the right to see the right hand menus. |
| 15:17.09 | reliver | yeah, great, still a lot of work, right, sinplomo ? |
| 15:17.40 | sinplomo | reliver, not much |
| 15:19.06 | eshep | reliver, look at it on the faq page. it doesnt have all that empty space on the right |
| 15:22.19 | reliver | good, sinplomo. |
| 15:22.29 | sinplomo | reliver, http://user-land.org/elive/tiki-index.php?page=Speedtouch+USB+Modems |
| 15:22.32 | sinplomo | better now ? |
| 15:22.49 | reliver | i just got rid of some of the error messages that plagued me: |
| 15:23.01 | reliver | i removed my admin privileges :-) |
| 15:23.58 | reliver | i still get some far out dots, sinplomo: |
| 15:24.55 | reliver | after -3. for example, on the empty line. |
| 15:25.48 | eshep | reliver, sinplomo, look at http://user-land.org/elive/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=8#q6 it doesnt have the extra whitespace |
| 15:25.51 | reliver | yes, nice formatting, eshep. |
| 15:26.25 | eshep | ok, but im wondering why. all i did was copy and paste |
| 15:26.26 | reliver | eshep, the faq will get a lot of entries, right ? |
| 15:26.35 | reliver | maybe 50 or more. |
| 15:27.07 | reliver | if there are long or complicated answers, it is nice to |
| 15:27.23 | reliver | just link to them and have them separately on their own pages. |
| 15:27.27 | eshep | right, but how many entries can go int "Top Pages"? |
| 15:27.36 | reliver | especially when they are not frequently used. |
| 15:28.15 | reliver | whatever we choose, currently i chose to have 10 there, to have space for more modules to come. |
| 15:28.49 | eshep | ok ok ok its gone |
| 15:29.23 | eshep | where is the structured location of the pages that are there? |
| 15:32.00 | eshep | nevermind, found em |
| 15:32.54 | Thanatermesis | good morning all |
| 15:33.30 | reliver | goooood morning Thanatermesis :-) |
| 15:33.31 | eshep | good morning Thanatermesis |
| 15:35.20 | reliver | eshep, why didn't you leave a link to sinplomo's page on the faq ? |
| 15:36.54 | eshep | i just figured out how, ill put it in |
| 15:41.25 | eshep | reliver, its in there |
| 15:44.49 | eshep | i still dont understand the dots to the right |
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| 15:54.41 | reliver | sinplomo, are you trying to edit your page ? |
| 15:55.51 | eshep | reliver, i figured out the whitespace problem. it will be fixed shortly |
| 15:58.29 | reliver | great, eshep. |
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| 16:07.19 | reliver | sorry, i just had to logout and in again ... |
| 16:12.50 | reliver | eshep, you were saying something ? |
| 16:13.53 | eshep | no, just fixing this page |
| 16:14.17 | reliver | good. |
| 16:14.48 | eshep | found it! it was the asterisks |
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| 16:18.24 | eshep | reliver, fixed |
| 16:18.46 | eshep | it could use a little restructuring though |
| 16:18.58 | eshep | it looks great in vi |
| 16:21.25 | reliver | thanks, eshep. |
| 16:22.05 | eshep | between here and work, ive all vi'd out |
| 16:22.16 | eshep | ill see yall tomorrow |
| 16:22.24 | eshep | g'night all |
| 16:24.02 | reliver | eshep, if you want to add to http://user-land.org/elive/tiki-index.php?page=Edit ? |
| 16:24.18 | reliver | oh, good night eshep :-) |
| 16:24.26 | reliver | thanks for all the nice exchanges. |
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| 16:29.47 | eshep | reliver, ill mess with it tomorrow |
| 16:30.07 | reliver | sure, great, eshep :-) |
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| 16:42.41 | lodiz | hi, what is the name on the menu thats furthest down on elive 0.3 e16 ? |
| 16:43.56 | reliver | logout, lodiz. |
| 16:44.13 | reliver | that's the menu entry there :-) |
| 16:44.26 | lodiz | heh |
| 16:44.39 | reliver | good ? |
| 16:44.55 | lodiz | ehhh... but the grafical menu |
| 16:45.24 | lodiz | the icon bar |
| 16:45.38 | Thanatermesis | the menu in the down of screen ? |
| 16:45.47 | Thanatermesis | in e16 ? engage |
| 16:46.13 | lodiz | ahh =) !! |
| 16:46.17 | lodiz | thanks |
| 16:46.35 | lodiz | didnt know how to explain :P |
| 16:47.42 | reliver | no, i was just looking at the wrong place again :-) |
| 16:48.56 | lodiz | heh.. if i could explain better you would found it.. |
| 16:50.39 | reliver | lodiz, are you new to Elive ? |
| 16:52.00 | lodiz | yea, downloaded just now, tryed it om my laptop but i got to little ram to run it, when i start for example, evidence it shuts down right away :P |
| 16:52.56 | shadoi | elivecd.com|net|info are active. |
| 16:56.30 | roxville | lodiz, evidence is a little buggy at this moment, it's not your ram that does that |
| 16:57.57 | lodiz | ok |
| 16:59.29 | lodiz | engage, is that a made for e16 |
| 16:59.37 | reliver | thanks so much, shadoi |
| 16:59.59 | reliver | is it possible for you to redirect elivecd.net ? |
| 17:00.07 | roxville | if you want a file manager, left-click on the screen (in e16) -->utils-->fast file manager |
| 17:02.03 | roxville | lodiz , the above is meant for you |
| 17:02.32 | lodiz | ok, thanks |
| 17:02.40 | roxville | it's not as flashy as evidence, but it works every time |
| 17:03.07 | roxville | there are also upgrades if you install elive, that will make evidence a little more stable |
| 17:05.02 | lodiz | how do i upgrade > |
| 17:05.02 | lodiz | ? |
| 17:06.28 | roxville | you have to install |
| 17:06.35 | roxville | on your hard drive |
| 17:07.24 | lodiz | ok.. M |
| 17:10.45 | shadoi | reliver: redirect it where? |
| 17:13.43 | roxville | lodiz, have you found the install script? in the folder on the bottom of the screen, the folder with tools on the outside? |
| 17:16.32 | lodiz | yep |
| 17:17.26 | roxville | ok... do you use that laptop for anything, or are you ready to wipe it clean and install elive? |
| 17:17.52 | sHR00m | anyone know how i can remove the dhcp client from the bootup scripts? makes the boot really slow, cause i have no server |
| 17:18.01 | lodiz | not right now, but for later, how do i use it ? |
| 17:18.29 | roxville | ok, you just click on the install script. it is actually a wizard |
| 17:18.35 | roxville | very easy to understand |
| 17:18.38 | roxville | :) |
| 17:18.52 | roxville | graphical |
| 17:19.18 | roxville | how much ram do you have on the laptop? |
| 17:20.37 | roxville | when you want to install, you can be here and chat with us while installing |
| 17:20.56 | roxville | so if you have any questions during install, just ask! :) |
| 17:21.16 | lodiz | 128mb |
| 17:21.25 | roxville | that's PLENTY! |
| 17:22.08 | lodiz | =) |
| 17:22.20 | roxville | Thanatermesis, who created elive, claims that it runs on as little as 64MB |
| 17:23.21 | Thanatermesis | yes, or 100 Mhz machine :) |
| 17:24.30 | roxville | Thanatermesis, is dma enabled when you boot from cd? |
| 17:24.40 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 17:24.45 | Thanatermesis | autodetected and enabled |
| 17:25.12 | roxville | see lodiz, it's sooo cool! better than an OLD version of vectorlinux! |
| 17:25.24 | roxville | good! thanks thana |
| 17:27.04 | roxville | Thanatermesis, the wiki is starting to take form! so cool! i have NEVER felt that i want to be part of the community of any of the distros i have tried |
| 17:27.09 | roxville | sorry |
| 17:27.27 | roxville | apt x en es Thanatermesis, the wiki is starting to take form! so cool! i have NEVER felt that i want to be part of the community of any of the distros i have tried |
| 17:27.50 | roxville | including "u" |
| 17:32.23 | roxville | reliver, what are you up to right now? |
| 17:32.48 | reliver | http://user-land.org/elive/tiki-index.php?page=Elive+Club, roxville :-) |
| 17:34.09 | roxville | cool! |
| 17:34.39 | reliver | shadoi, could you please change the dns for elivecd.net to ns13/14.hostgator.com ? |
| 17:35.07 | shadoi | reliver: is that for the wiki? |
| 17:35.23 | shadoi | wouldn't it make more sense to use wiki.elivecd.* ? |
| 17:36.25 | shadoi | And have them all use the same theme & style |
| 17:36.29 | roxville | yes shadoi, it would. i do not know why |
| 17:36.38 | roxville | exactly |
| 17:36.49 | Thanatermesis | :) roxville |
| 17:37.08 | reliver | shadoi, elivecd.net will be for Elive Club, the community. |
| 17:37.22 | reliver | we are working on the style of the pages, yes. |
| 17:37.44 | roxville | would be sooo cool if salma hayek would donate her underwear! |
| 17:37.54 | roxville | ok, sorry |
| 17:38.03 | reliver | who is salma hayek ? :-) |
| 17:38.21 | reliver | a rich chick ? ;-) |
| 17:39.05 | reliver | shadoi, do you want to say you offer hosting the wiki ? |
| 17:39.22 | shadoi | reliver: well I can point the subdomain to another page.... |
| 17:39.34 | Thanatermesis | lol roxville |
| 17:40.33 | reliver | elivecd.net, the second level domain, becomes a new face, shadoi. |
| 17:40.46 | lodiz | is it possible to get engage stand alone, for a fresh e16 install ? |
| 17:41.08 | Thanatermesis | reliver, shadoi have a little problem for the hosting... have a mensual limit... with the pages of shadoi and the page of Elive, the mensual limit are dangerously depassed, and Elive page only have the page and the screenshots ! very persons enter en elive page :) |
| 17:41.09 | shadoi | reliver: I think it's confusing to have elivecd.net point somewhere and all the other elivecd domains point somewhere else. it should be consistent. |
| 17:41.18 | roxville | lodiz...not sure what you mean |
| 17:41.22 | shadoi | Thanatermesis: mensual? |
| 17:41.25 | reliver | it is not confusing,no shadoi. |
| 17:41.36 | Thanatermesis | monthly shadoi .. sorry :) |
| 17:41.44 | reliver | elivecd.org is for the standard downloads and news. |
| 17:41.47 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es mensual |
| 17:41.56 | Thanatermesis | apt x es en mensual |
| 17:42.01 | reliver | elivecd.net is for the Elive Club community. |
| 17:42.02 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 17:42.15 | lodiz | engage the iconbar, i want it on my other comp with a fresh slackware/e16 install... |
| 17:42.25 | reliver | and elivecd.com might become a portal for commercial support eventually. |
| 17:42.27 | shadoi | reliver: I think it's a bad idea, but if that's how you guys want it.... ok. |
| 17:42.38 | shadoi | best to use subdomains. |
| 17:42.45 | shadoi | keep everything pointing to the same places. |
| 17:43.00 | reliver | interesting. |
| 17:43.15 | shadoi | club.elivecd.* for example. |
| 17:43.20 | reliver | there are pros and cons. |
| 17:43.45 | reliver | are you good with marketing, shadoi ? |
| 17:43.46 | shadoi | I can definitely host the wiki/club, it won't be that bandwidth intensive. |
| 17:43.58 | reliver | wow, great. |
| 17:44.02 | Thanatermesis | or in any case... elivecd.net can be posible to have a big banner with the link of the Elive "main" page |
| 17:44.14 | reliver | would it be possible for you to install tikiwiki 1.9 ? |
| 17:44.19 | shadoi | reliver: no I've just setup a lot of websites. :) |
| 17:44.25 | shadoi | reliver: let me check. |
| 17:44.55 | shadoi | reliver: yes I can install it in a few seconds. |
| 17:45.06 | reliver | wow, great :-) |
| 17:45.25 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, all elivecd.* points to elivecd.org its good idea, and use club.elive.org for the club... looks nice |
| 17:45.38 | shadoi | I can do that right now if you like. |
| 17:45.48 | reliver | yes, thanatermesis, i also think shadoi is right. |
| 17:45.53 | shadoi | reliver: oh, looks like the version I have is 1.8.5 |
| 17:46.01 | shadoi | is that good enough? |
| 17:46.15 | reliver | are you using fantastico, shadoi ? |
| 17:46.33 | shadoi | yes |
| 17:46.38 | shadoi | I can install it via tarball |
| 17:46.44 | shadoi | but I prefer fantastico. |
| 17:46.50 | Thanatermesis | shadoi its a debian system ? in... etch ? the "security" its important... if the version 1.9 are in "unstable" its posible little dangerous, yes ? (for the security of the page and data) |
| 17:46.53 | roxville | psst, reliver... shadoi is one of THE "e" guys... one of the "initiated few" |
| 17:47.08 | shadoi | Thanatermesis: the server is RHEL3 |
| 17:47.20 | reliver | ok, 1.8.5 is what we are running now, but it needs a security upgrade to 1.8.6, and i think there is a fantastico upgrade available for this. |
| 17:47.22 | Thanatermesis | oh, ok, Im don't know :) |
| 17:47.34 | sHR00m | Thanatermesis, a friend of mine tried the livecd and sait it freezes on the status screen at "press f2 for details", he couldnt push f2 or so |
| 17:47.49 | shadoi | reliver: it will be available very shortly. should I go ahead and do 1.8.5 now then and apply the upgrade when it's released? |
| 17:48.00 | reliver | yes please, shadoi. |
| 17:48.09 | Thanatermesis | sHR00m frozen in the "pcmcia section autodetection" ? its a bug in the kernel |
| 17:48.30 | reliver | great, roxville :-) |
| 17:48.34 | sHR00m | Thanatermesis, he couldnt check, cause it freezes before he can see the details |
| 17:48.38 | shadoi | reliver: doing it now. |
| 17:49.07 | sHR00m | are there any workarounds for the pcmcia detection? |
| 17:49.15 | reliver | shadoi, would you know how to move the existing content and configuration to your host ? |
| 17:49.23 | Thanatermesis | sHR00m im not sure... if you press F2 its *very* strange to frozen with this... but you need to look the details... if you don't push F2 runs good ? |
| 17:49.34 | sHR00m | Thanatermesis, no, it seems to be frozen before |
| 17:50.09 | Thanatermesis | sHR00m press F2 in the first time posible, for enter fastly in the details mode... |
| 17:50.16 | Thanatermesis | directly after the boot options |
| 17:50.18 | roxville | bbl |
| 17:50.55 | sHR00m | Thanatermesis, he did that allready.. doesnt work |
| 17:51.32 | shadoi | reliver: if you can do a mysqldump I can import it.. make sure to use the compat option for mysql 4.0 |
| 17:51.46 | Thanatermesis | sorry sHR00m , but Im not have any information with the problem with this :/ |
| 17:51.58 | sHR00m | ok, we try |
| 17:52.00 | reliver | ok, shadoi, i will ask luciash if he could do it for us. |
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| 18:02.13 | sHR00m | Thanatermesis, he was frozen at Probing SCSI ... advansys.ko |
| 18:02.21 | sHR00m | any suggestions? |
| 18:02.36 | sHR00m | (dont think this box uses scsi) |
| 18:03.05 | shadoi | reliver: as soon as DNS propagates http://club.elivecd.org should work. |
| 18:04.41 | reliver | great, thank you, shadoi. |
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| 18:08.00 | Thanatermesis | strange sHR00m .. but is probably to need to wait a new version of Elive with a recent kernel... |
| 18:08.18 | sHR00m | well :/ |
| 18:15.22 | Thanatermesis | the problem aparently are this module, posible are this to block the systemm... |
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| 18:24.06 | sHR00m | Thanatermesis, knoppix no{pcmcia,scsi,swap,usb} Skip parts of HW-detection (3) |
| 18:24.12 | sHR00m | this would be very useful |
| 18:24.17 | sHR00m | as boot parameter |
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| 18:32.00 | Thanatermesis | yes, from my memory sHR00m , this is a feature included in Elive |
| 18:32.34 | Thanatermesis | search for this option ;) if not look, only try same to knoppix, and if works, send me the notice for include visualment this option |
| 18:33.03 | Thanatermesis | sHR00m or try the "safe" or the "expert" mode... |
| 18:33.22 | sHR00m | expert we tried. was the only one without splashscreen |
| 18:34.42 | Thanatermesis | yes, why need you splash ? its only eye-candy ;) |
| 18:34.47 | sHR00m | noscsi did it |
| 18:34.59 | sHR00m | no we didnt see where it hangs, cause the splash ;) |
| 18:35.05 | E-nemesio\Live | if i add the repository contained in the topic, will i have the e17 binaries? |
| 18:35.07 | sHR00m | with expert, we got it removed |
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| 18:39.50 | Elreva | bien pavo este elive |
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| 18:59.14 | felix | re |
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| 19:07.00 | sHR00m | hi Elive_user2 |
| 19:07.02 | sHR00m | :) |
| 19:15.53 | Thanaway | brb |
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| 20:53.40 | mariodebian | buenas... |
| 20:56.28 | Rasko|nikov | buenas |
| 20:56.34 | Rasko|nikov | sinplomo, Thanaway estais? |
| 21:00.40 | reliver | hola mariodebian y Rasko|nikov. |
| 21:00.50 | mariodebian | hola reliver |
| 21:01.10 | reliver | thanatermesis dejo: brb |
| 21:01.53 | Rasko|nikov | holas |
| 21:01.53 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 21:02.03 | reliver | mariodebian, sabes oque se poderia hacer para poder cargar aMule en elive ? |
| 21:02.21 | reliver | descargar ... |
| 21:03.02 | mariodebian | como cargar??? |
| 21:03.06 | mariodebian | instalar? |
| 21:03.08 | reliver | bajar. |
| 21:03.09 | reliver | si. |
| 21:03.20 | mariodebian | amule necesita las wxgtk nuevas |
| 21:03.22 | mariodebian | y compilarlo... |
| 21:03.26 | mariodebian | yo lo tengo en paquete deb |
| 21:03.34 | reliver | ah si ? |
| 21:03.37 | mariodebian | compilado sobre gtk2 |
| 21:03.42 | mariodebian | para que quede más bonito.. |
| 21:03.51 | mariodebian | si te fias podrÃa pasarte los deb |
| 21:04.08 | reliver | wow, seria super :-) |
| 21:04.30 | reliver | lists aroba user-land.org |
| 21:04.43 | mariodebian | no |
| 21:04.47 | mariodebian | al correo no te lo mando |
| 21:04.50 | mariodebian | lo sube a un mirror |
| 21:04.58 | reliver | ah, bien :-) |
| 21:05.13 | mariodebian | son casi 8 megas |
| 21:05.18 | mariodebian | tardare un rato en subirlo |
| 21:05.19 | reliver | si. |
| 21:05.41 | reliver | so que tantas personas no lo quieren tocar, parece que nem ne hablan ... |
| 21:06.28 | Thanaway | 're |
| 21:06.32 | Thanaway | buenas mariodebian |
| 21:06.35 | reliver | hola re :-) |
| 21:06.59 | Thanaway | mariodebian , tiene algun limite mensual el repo que tienes de elive ? |
| 21:07.11 | mariodebian | no |
| 21:07.16 | mariodebian | es rediris :P |
| 21:07.23 | Thanaway | vaya :) |
| 21:07.28 | mariodebian | porque lo dices, ayer no iba? |
| 21:07.51 | Rasko|nikov | Thanaway, |
| 21:07.57 | Rasko|nikov | quieres probar el sdljump? |
| 21:08.03 | Rasko|nikov | aun tiene bugs y le faltan un par de cosas |
| 21:08.06 | Rasko|nikov | pero tngo ganas de q lo veas xD |
| 21:08.39 | Thanaway | ok, porque el repo de elive 0.3 creo que ariesga quedarse sin transferencia si la gente lo usa mucho |
| 21:08.49 | Thanaway | Rasko|nikov ahora mismo no puedo, lo siento |
| 21:08.54 | Rasko|nikov | oki xD |
| 21:08.55 | Rasko|nikov | otro dia |
| 21:09.03 | Thanaway | de echo no deberia ni de estar hablando por aqui pero bueno xD |
| 21:09.05 | Thanaway | ok |
| 21:09.11 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 21:09.13 | Rasko|nikov | q tienes q acer? |
| 21:09.23 | mariodebian | usa idefix lo que necesites y ponlo de primario si quieres... |
| 21:09.43 | mariodebian | si mirases las tablas de webalizer flipas con la transferencia mensual de ese server |
| 21:13.07 | Thanaway | jeje |
| 21:13.11 | Thanaway | muchas gracias mariodebian |
| 21:13.28 | Thanaway | Rasko|nikov pues... a venido mi novia... y normalmente cuando viene me tiene prohibido tocar el ordenador O:) |
| 21:14.51 | Rasko|nikov | xDD |
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| 21:15.01 | Rasko|nikov | me abstengo a comentarios xD |
| 21:18.56 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, mas o menos |
| 21:19.07 | Rasko|nikov | oh sinplomo is here! |
| 21:19.13 | Rasko|nikov | quieres probar el sdljump? |
| 21:19.20 | sinplomo | no |
| 21:19.23 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 21:19.25 | Rasko|nikov | asias xD |
| 21:19.32 | sinplomo | era coña |
| 21:19.36 | sinplomo | pasa el enlace |
| 21:19.37 | Rasko|nikov | jajaja |
| 21:19.51 | Rasko|nikov | te aviso q aun tiene fallos y faltan por implementar varias cosas |
| 21:20.00 | mariodebian | reliver: ping |
| 21:20.06 | Rasko|nikov | algunas las podria haber corregido ace un rato pero toy perezoso, aora tengo ganas de enseñarlo xD |
| 21:20.06 | reliver | yes :-) |
| 21:20.13 | reliver | si = |
| 21:20.20 | mariodebian | deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/paquetes/ ./ |
| 21:20.24 | mariodebian | apt-get install amule |
| 21:20.37 | mariodebian | por dependencias instalara wxgtk |
| 21:20.40 | Rasko|nikov | sinplomo, ftp://magnicida.servebeer.com/sdljump.tar.bz2 |
| 21:21.03 | Rasko|nikov | para probarlo: ./configure; make; cd src; ./sdljump |
| 21:21.14 | sinplomo | ui |
| 21:21.17 | sinplomo | no me digas ;) |
| 21:21.18 | sinplomo | xD |
| 21:21.33 | mariodebian | alguien controla de ruby ??? |
| 21:22.07 | Rasko|nikov | sinplomo, lo digo pq no hagas un make install |
| 21:22.19 | Rasko|nikov | y xk tienes q entrar en la carpeta src despues de make pa ejecutarlo xD |
| 21:22.35 | sinplomo | que lo se c*j*nes |
| 21:23.54 | reliver | mariodebian, i can not open sources.list in root, says can't open display, so in synaptic |
| 21:23.54 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 21:23.57 | Rasko|nikov | ok |
| 21:24.04 | Rasko|nikov | weno, en cuanto puedas me dices sinplomo |
| 21:24.11 | Rasko|nikov | ansÃo tu evaluacion |
| 21:24.11 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 21:24.12 | reliver | i enter http://idefix.eup.uva.es/paquetes/ as address, right ? |
| 21:24.16 | mariodebian | yes |
| 21:24.33 | mariodebian | download amule and wxgtk pacjkages |
| 21:24.40 | mariodebian | and install it with dpkg -i |
| 21:24.41 | reliver | distribution: ./ |
| 21:24.48 | reliver | ? |
| 21:24.51 | mariodebian | yes |
| 21:24.58 | mariodebian | it's a simple mirror |
| 21:25.11 | reliver | sections i leave empty ? |
| 21:26.22 | mariodebian | yes |
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| 21:28.11 | Rasko|nikov | sinplomo, |
| 21:28.12 | Rasko|nikov | ya? |
| 21:29.02 | sinplomo | descomprimiendo |
| 21:29.09 | Rasko|nikov | date prisa |
| 21:29.09 | elive-bot | Rasko|nikov: I can't find Prisa. Local: Fri Sep 23 21:22:40 2005 |
| 21:29.12 | Rasko|nikov | q tengo q drogarme xD |
| 21:29.21 | Rasko|nikov | xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 21:29.26 | sinplomo | xDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 21:29.38 | Rasko|nikov | date una hostia en la cara |
| 21:29.38 | elive-bot | Rasko|nikov: I can't find Una_Hostia_En_La_Cara. Local: Fri Sep 23 21:23:09 2005 |
| 21:29.44 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 21:30.04 | Rasko|nikov | date en los webos |
| 21:30.04 | elive-bot | Rasko|nikov: I can't find En_Los_Webos. Local: Fri Sep 23 21:23:36 2005 |
| 21:30.06 | Rasko|nikov | xDDDDDD |
| 21:31.31 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, mola |
| 21:31.37 | sinplomo | 35 a la primera :) |
| 21:31.39 | sinplomo | por cierto |
| 21:31.44 | sinplomo | los ladrillos rojos |
| 21:31.48 | sinplomo | se ven un poco raros .. |
| 21:32.08 | Rasko|nikov | xDDDD |
| 21:32.21 | sinplomo | no se |
| 21:32.26 | sinplomo | como si se arrastraran |
| 21:32.30 | sinplomo | pero por lo demas mola |
| 21:32.32 | Rasko|nikov | (23:32:30) Antonio: 121 |
| 21:32.37 | Rasko|nikov | mi primo es el puto amo xD |
| 21:32.38 | sinplomo | el theme es bonito :) |
| 21:32.42 | sinplomo | xDDDD |
| 21:32.47 | sinplomo | luego me viciare a el |
| 21:32.58 | sinplomo | por cierto, piensas ponerlo en sf.net o algo asi ? |
| 21:33.05 | Rasko|nikov | sinplomo, puedes configurarlo pa q baje a "tirones" como el xjump |
| 21:33.20 | Rasko|nikov | sinplomo, si, pero quiero terminar ciertas cosas y sacarlo como 0.9 beta |
| 21:33.53 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, donde esta la variable que determina la altura del salto ? |
| 21:34.04 | Rasko|nikov | xDDDDDDD |
| 21:34.10 | Rasko|nikov | suck this: 8:::::::::D |
| 21:34.10 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 21:34.13 | Rasko|nikov | weno me voy |
| 21:34.15 | Rasko|nikov | agur! |
| 21:34.16 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 21:34.19 | sinplomo | que malo |
| 21:34.20 | sinplomo | xD |
| 21:39.14 | Thanaway | o.po.ñpm |
| 21:52.04 | reliver | mariodebian, your amule 2.0.3 is great :-) thank you so much, it means a lot to me. |
| 21:52.24 | mariodebian | reliver: why do you talk in english? |
| 21:52.25 | reliver | is your repository private or public ? |
| 21:52.30 | mariodebian | public |
| 21:52.51 | reliver | ah, desculpa, porque tengo verguenza de todos mis errores en espanol ... |
| 21:58.08 | reliver | bien, entonces lo vou incluir en http://club.elivecd.org |
| 21:58.24 | reliver | quieres participar ahi ? |
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| 22:37.36 | ubuntu | #hi all |
| 22:37.47 | ubuntu | I was on yesterday as david614 |
| 22:37.58 | ubuntu | Watch out for apt-get upgrade. |
| 22:38.13 | ubuntu | I did so yesterday on a functioning Elive install to my hard drive |
| 22:38.24 | ubuntu | Once completed, I rebooted and now have an unusable system |
| 22:38.34 | ubuntu | I am typing this from a live cd of ubuntu linux |
| 22:39.16 | ubuntu | I like the Elive cd, but I am going to try getting E17 from CVS instead |
| 22:39.19 | ubuntu | bye |
| 22:39.24 | ubuntu | david614 |
| 22:40.23 | ubuntu | Thanatermesis |
| 22:42.41 | reliver | oh, ubuntu was in a hurry ... |
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| 23:04.43 | Elive_user2 | qui hubo linuxeros |
| 23:10.57 | Elive_user2 | esta distro live me parece una maravilla, sobre todo por la cantidad de paquetes que contiene, y por el entorno grafico liviano y estetico |
| 23:18.36 | sinplomo_ | Elive_user2, :) |
| 23:19.04 | sinplomo_ | ya somos dos, ya somos dooooooooooooos ... |
| 23:19.06 | sinplomo_ | xDD |
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| 23:25.46 | Elive_user2 | aja |
| 23:25.49 | reliver | hola sinplomo, ya visitaste el wiki en su nuevo lugar ? |
| 23:36.33 | sinplomo | nope |
| 23:40.25 | reliver | http://club.elivecd.org |
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| 23:56.01 | reliver | damosu_, shr00m, hello :-) |
| 23:56.10 | sHR00m | hi reliver |
| 23:56.11 | damosu_ | hola reliver |
| 23:56.19 | sHR00m | what does your wiki? :) |
| 23:56.30 | reliver | did you visit the wiki in it's new location yet ? |
| 23:56.40 | reliver | http://club.elivecd.org |