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| 00:08.05 | shadoi | reliver: As soon as I get the cost of the hardware decided I'll let you know. |
| 00:08.26 | reliver | great, shadoi |
| 00:08.33 | eddan | After an synaptic update I'm presented with some sort of a debian X login manager, and I can't type anything into username/passwd as it doesn't respond to my keyboard. During boot if I type something it will show up, so it should still work. What do I tell GRUB to make my installation start console-only? |
| 00:09.04 | eddan | (so I can check what has happened and hopefully fix it) |
| 00:09.21 | reliver | shadoi about the Premium Server service for Elive Club members, i had a new idea. |
| 00:09.24 | reliver | to offer a repository with a tested freeze, done all few days, you think that would sell to the cautious system admins in businesses and at home ? |
| 00:10.22 | shadoi | Yeah, if it's updated very frequently and is a very fast connection. |
| 00:10.32 | reliver | great. |
| 00:10.50 | sinplomo | eddan, the mouse works ? |
| 00:10.58 | eddan | sinplomo: Yes |
| 00:11.04 | reliver | shadoi did you see what i wrote to you regarding tikiwiki 1.8.5 ? |
| 00:11.32 | shadoi | reliver: yes, I am going to wait until I either move the server or they update fantastico, I don't have time to put into it right now. |
| 00:12.01 | shadoi | I have daily backups if anything happens. |
| 00:12.06 | reliver | when are you planning to move the server ? |
| 00:12.22 | shadoi | it all depends on the hardware and what we decide to do on that. |
| 00:13.36 | sinplomo | eddan, do you see an blue entrance theme |
| 00:13.41 | sinplomo | with an E ? |
| 00:14.21 | eddan | sinplomo: No, don't think it's entrance, it has changed. There's a big Debian logo.. Look very different |
| 00:14.29 | eddan | *looks |
| 00:14.42 | eddan | anyway, if I just get to console I could set it back to entrance again |
| 00:14.49 | reliver | what is earliest and latest, shadoi, and has our third partner in the deal got time ? |
| 00:15.08 | sinplomo | eddan, did you installed gdm or gnome or something like that ? |
| 00:15.18 | shadoi | reliver: time for what? |
| 00:15.27 | reliver | to talk with me ? |
| 00:16.14 | eddan | sinplomo: yeah, you're right. gdm was needed for some other tool I installed at the same time.. Forgot about that |
| 00:16.42 | shadoi | reliver: oh.. well he runs a different site, he's just a friend of mine that will help with the hardware. |
| 00:17.19 | reliver | would you mind setting up the server soon, shadoi ? |
| 00:17.22 | eddan | sinplomo: But how would I change the runlevel so I can just get to console without gdm or whatever the x login manager is? |
| 00:17.45 | sinplomo | eddan, are you able to change to console? |
| 00:17.57 | roxville | apt x es en reliver, lo de no te preocupes lo decia por lo de transmitirle el mensaje a roxville |
| 00:18.15 | eddan | sinplomo: no, doesn't respond to anything I do with the keyboard. |
| 00:18.46 | sinplomo | eddan, do you installed elive on /dev/hdXY ? |
| 00:18.56 | eddan | hda5 |
| 00:19.12 | sinplomo | eddan, run elive livecd |
| 00:19.19 | sinplomo | open an Eterm |
| 00:19.22 | sinplomo | and do as root |
| 00:19.25 | sinplomo | chroot /mnt/hda5 |
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| 00:19.42 | sinplomo | and you will be chrooted to installed elive |
| 00:19.45 | reliver | hello eshep :-) |
| 00:19.46 | sinplomo | do |
| 00:20.09 | sinplomo | apt-get update && apt-get remove --purge gdm && apt-get --reinstall install entrance |
| 00:20.16 | reliver | gooood morning japaaan :-) |
| 00:20.18 | roxville | howdy eshep |
| 00:20.42 | eshep | hi guys, my hd install is broke |
| 00:20.47 | eddan | sinplomo: Yes. Thanks a lot |
| 00:20.49 | eshep | im back on the cd now |
| 00:20.54 | reliver | oh, eshep, from an update ? |
| 00:21.11 | eshep | yeah, dist-upgrade last night |
| 00:21.16 | roxville | uh-oh... |
| 00:21.21 | reliver | exactly... |
| 00:21.41 | eshep | it took entrance away and gave me cXrDaMp |
| 00:21.47 | reliver | eshep, nast light at the precise moment when it broke your system |
| 00:21.51 | eshep | exactly? |
| 00:22.19 | reliver | i was speaking with Thanatermesis about that problem and he said it does not exist :-) |
| 00:22.28 | eddan | sinplomo: What does the --purge switch do? Ignores dependencies? |
| 00:22.31 | eshep | lies! |
| 00:22.37 | reliver | i know :-) |
| 00:22.50 | sinplomo | eddan, remove configuration files |
| 00:22.53 | sinplomo | ( garbage ) :P |
| 00:22.57 | reliver | he gets carried away by his optimism maybe sometimes :-) |
| 00:22.59 | eddan | sinplomo: Ok, excellent |
| 00:23.07 | eddan | hopefully I'll brb :) |
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| 00:23.56 | sinplomo | he said it does not exist :-) <= the problem or ThanaZzzz ? |
| 00:23.56 | eshep | i gotta get back to work. ill talk to yall, and him later. |
| 00:23.59 | sinplomo | xD |
| 00:24.17 | reliver | have a good day, eshep. |
| 00:25.00 | reliver | sinpomo, he said it happened once a short time ago, but should not reocurr. |
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| 00:26.02 | reliver | but in fact i think he knows that we simple home-sysadmins have another experience then him who is able to and used to fix things on the spot... |
| 00:29.49 | shadoi | reliver: I'd love to setup the server soon, but I need a server to setup first. |
| 00:30.27 | reliver | are these servers difficult to buy, shadoi ? |
| 00:31.05 | shadoi | no, but I have a friend that can get good prices on things, and I want to ask him to get me a quote. |
| 00:31.16 | shadoi | I haven't been able to contact him yet. |
| 00:31.24 | reliver | that would be great, shadoi. |
| 00:31.47 | reliver | can you please give us a timeframe as soon as you find out ? |
| 00:31.52 | shadoi | yup |
| 00:31.58 | reliver | great, thanks. |
| 00:32.27 | reliver | you see, the whole club can not be used in spanish as long as we are on the old version. |
| 00:32.36 | shadoi | I see |
| 00:32.50 | reliver | thanks, and have a good evening, shadoi. |
| 00:32.51 | shadoi | I know that Netenberg is working on updating it for fantastico right now. |
| 00:33.15 | reliver | are you planning on paying them 500$ per year, shadoi ? |
| 00:33.51 | reliver | and _then_ have to wait for critical updates for 18 months ?? |
| 00:33.54 | shadoi | no... when I build the new server I won't use cpanel or fantastico |
| 00:34.01 | shadoi | It'll be pure debian |
| 00:34.02 | reliver | great :-) |
| 00:34.04 | shadoi | manual installs |
| 00:34.09 | reliver | perfect. |
| 00:34.29 | shadoi | And you can all have shell access, so you could update things like this on your own. |
| 00:34.59 | reliver | it's great you make daily db backups, i was worried about that :-) |
| 00:35.11 | shadoi | bluehost does it automatically |
| 00:35.46 | reliver | you are looking at something between 1000-2000$ for the server ? |
| 00:35.58 | shadoi | yeah, possibly under $1000 |
| 00:36.09 | shadoi | depending on what we want. |
| 00:36.12 | _H_mas | hola thanatermesis |
| 00:36.22 | shadoi | I don't know that we need anything really powerful yet. |
| 00:36.44 | reliver | you are right. |
| 00:37.10 | reliver | and great you want to have raid1 |
| 00:37.16 | shadoi | yeah |
| 00:37.32 | roxville | shadoi ...this is good for spreading e, right? elive, i mean |
| 00:37.50 | reliver | 250 GB is currently the cheapest drives per GB here. |
| 00:37.56 | roxville | sorry i interrupted, i just wanted to hear your view on it |
| 00:37.57 | shadoi | roxville: definitely |
| 00:38.03 | ThanaZzzz | only a upgraded system Elive test before sleep :) |
| 00:38.05 | ThanaZzzz | ~reboot |
| 00:38.07 | apt | Not on your life cowboy :(, or are you using Window$? |
| 00:38.38 | shadoi | roxville: we need to standardize more though... it deviates a bit too much from default in my opinion. |
| 00:38.50 | roxville | does it put a torch up yer...i mean, are you, the e dev's working harder on it now... because you have .... |
| 00:38.54 | roxville | cause? |
| 00:38.56 | roxville | lol |
| 00:39.02 | shadoi | reliver: yes 250GB would be just right. |
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| 00:40.04 | shadoi | roxville: no, the focus has been on releasing e17 for a while now... elive is peripheral, obviously we all know that the demand is there for e17 to be released. :) |
| 00:40.06 | roxville | ok shadoi, i can dig that |
| 00:40.15 | felix | usage: uptime [-V] |
| 00:40.15 | felix | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.18 | felix | oops |
| 00:40.20 | felix | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.23 | roxville | i suppose that is thana's way of showing who he is |
| 00:41.01 | shadoi | yes... but if Elive is to be "official" it needs to conform a bit. |
| 00:41.11 | roxville | i mean, personalize, that's all i meant |
| 00:41.28 | reliver | elive deviates too much from default debian or default enlightenment ? |
| 00:41.36 | shadoi | enlightenment |
| 00:41.47 | roxville | you are right on that, and i have.... you are right! lol |
| 00:41.49 | shadoi | mainly just look and feel... consistency... |
| 00:42.25 | roxville | reliver, i think he means from the e desktop the way they thought it to be |
| 00:42.27 | reliver | do you use e16 or e17 shadoi, and which one are you trying to push ? |
| 00:42.36 | shadoi | e17 for sure |
| 00:42.56 | reliver | ah, and thana, why does he not switch then ? |
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| 00:43.11 | roxville | i still use e16 too |
| 00:43.14 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh, entrance deinstalled after install, and 2 XDM launched |
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| 00:43.21 | shadoi | reliver: I'm sure e17 will become the default once it's more stable and feature-rich. |
| 00:43.23 | Thanatermesis | (after upgrade system) |
| 00:43.23 | reliver | Thanatermesis, estamos hablando de ti :-) |
| 00:43.37 | Thanatermesis | jeje, bien reliver :) |
| 00:44.04 | reliver | no se, shadoi piensa que devias demaciado del default de enlightenment ... |
| 00:44.11 | roxville | thanks shadoi, i appreciate your time :) |
| 00:44.57 | eddan | sinplomo: Actually gdm wasnt installed, but just reinstalling entrance fixed the problem. Thanks a lot. Only thing, it now lists E16 again (which I've removed), is it easy to delete the E16 entry so it defaults to E17? |
| 00:45.03 | Thanatermesis | default de enlightenment reliver ? a que te refieres ? |
| 00:45.07 | reliver | no consigo el dist-upgrade hoy ... |
| 00:45.37 | pr0t0cod7 | i don't like what "default" sounds :) |
| 00:45.47 | pr0t0cod7 | s/what/how |
| 00:45.50 | Thanatermesis | eddan: for have e17 default in entrance, only select e17 AFTER put your username (from my memory, this is fixed in the actual entrance version) |
| 00:45.56 | reliver | bueno, shadoi dice que lo estas cambiando mucho ? |
| 00:46.10 | Thanatermesis | reliver: morphix da a veces problemas... pero no es importante, tambien puedes borrar la linea de morphix :) |
| 00:46.12 | eddan | Thanatermesis: Ok, thanks! |
| 00:46.56 | Thanatermesis | eddan: this is a RARE problem (entrance frozen keyboard), I have looked the same problem.. ok, you have the "blue" theme... if you look the same problem of keyboard with this theme... please contact me |
| 00:47.33 | eddan | will do |
| 00:47.34 | Thanatermesis | reliver: cambiar el que ? e17 ? no, no toco codigo fuente.... el unico codigo fuente que e tocado a sido entrance y engage, minimos retoques y necesarios, vaya |
| 00:48.48 | reliver | no se entonce, y el parece tener pocissimo tiempo as vezes. |
| 00:48.57 | Thanatermesis | reliver: no upgradees, parece que entrance da problema... dejame terminar de mirar el problema... |
| 00:49.09 | reliver | hablei con alextreme hoy, era muy agradable. |
| 00:49.15 | Thanatermesis | si :) |
| 00:49.19 | reliver | el gusta mucho de ti :-) |
| 00:49.31 | Thanatermesis | pero es una persona muy ocupada... por suerte le levanté la motivacion con el proyecto morphix ;) |
| 00:49.46 | reliver | tambien que dice tu ingles sia un poco "funny" :-) |
| 00:49.52 | Thanatermesis | lo tenia un poco "abandonado" |
| 00:49.52 | shadoi | sure wish I could speak spanish. ;) |
| 00:49.58 | roxville | yeah, eshep, just said his system was broke last night after dist-upgrade |
| 00:50.03 | Thanatermesis | hehehe, yes |
| 00:50.19 | roxville | i know shadoi, would come in handy, wouldn't it? |
| 00:50.35 | reliver | quien es una persona muy ocupada ? |
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| 00:51.25 | shadoi | reliver: Pienso que él significa medio |
| 00:51.34 | reliver | mira muy ocupado muitas vezes es so una proteccion que se dan para no necesitar hablar la verdad que no quieren hablar con uno ... |
| 00:51.43 | Thanatermesis | esa persona muy ocupada reliver ? alextreme :) |
| 00:51.45 | reliver | es quasi estandard ... :-( |
| 00:51.59 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, las actualizaciones de x-window-system es un problema para entrance... |
| 00:52.28 | roxville | the x-auth? |
| 00:52.43 | Thanatermesis | una actualizacion de x-window-system desinstala entrance (y puede bloquear el arranque del sistema en el login) |
| 00:52.50 | reliver | hoy por ejemplo alextreme tenia mucho tiempo para chatear de todo... |
| 00:53.00 | Thanatermesis | es un delicado problema que todavia no se como resolver... |
| 00:53.37 | reliver | todos dicen que vamos poder vender el servicio Premium Server de Elive Club muy bien. |
| 00:55.13 | pr0t0cod7 | reliver: quien es "todos"? |
| 00:55.25 | Thanatermesis | me alegro reliver :) |
| 00:55.49 | reliver | todos que pregunto, protocol7 ... |
| 00:56.03 | pr0t0cod7 | hmm Ok |
| 00:56.11 | Thanatermesis | el servidor privado de Elive no tendra el problema de entrance... porque el repositorio estara congelado... pero todavia no se como resolverlo para el "uso normal" de elive... :( |
| 00:56.14 | reliver | y tu, pr0t0cod7 ? |
| 00:56.30 | reliver | exacto, thanatermesis ... |
| 00:56.36 | pr0t0cod7 | well i don't believe people will pay for this with such a young project |
| 00:56.54 | reliver | 30 € me parece una buena propuesta para esto ... |
| 00:57.31 | reliver | pr0t0cod7, that may be because you are able to fix a broken install ? |
| 00:57.35 | shadoi | pr0t0cod7: I agree, but some might. And at least the ability to handle it will be in place. |
| 00:57.36 | pr0t0cod7 | it's just my opinion through, but i din't like the idea of a private club, in the world of free software |
| 00:57.40 | pr0t0cod7 | reliver: sure |
| 00:58.02 | reliver | imagine someone like me who invested maybe a week configuring everything, |
| 00:58.17 | reliver | and then i have to start over because of a broken update ? |
| 00:58.35 | reliver | that is my reality and the reality of countless others i know ... |
| 00:58.49 | pr0t0cod7 | depends if broken updates happen too often |
| 00:58.53 | pr0t0cod7 | but it shouldnt |
| 00:59.14 | reliver | also, it is great that many like you will not use this service, |
| 00:59.26 | reliver | otherwise there would be no testers, you see ? |
| 01:00.27 | roxville | hmmm |
| 01:00.37 | reliver | yes, roxville ? |
| 01:01.12 | roxville | lol, that was an old hmmm...sorry, didn't know it was there :) |
| 01:01.15 | _H_mas | hola thanatermesis |
| 01:02.24 | Thanatermesis | pr0t0cod7 reliver ... actually if not use a private server... entrance causes a broken system (exactly the package x-window-system), this is a hard and big problem...but Im not found the good solution for this... x-window-system depends to xdm, xdm is installed and broke the entrance and the login manager... ok, I have my personal x-window-system without xdm dependent, the problem are solved... |
| 01:02.39 | Thanatermesis | but for the next x-window-system from debian... I have the same problem ! |
| 01:03.08 | Thanatermesis | all persons of upgrade BEFORE I make a special version for Elive... brokes their system... |
| 01:03.15 | Thanatermesis | its a very delicated point |
| 01:03.20 | Thanatermesis | hola _H_mas |
| 01:03.24 | reliver | i see ... |
| 01:03.58 | roxville | so it's ok to do it now? |
| 01:04.14 | Thanatermesis | upgrade system ? no... wait my reparation... :) |
| 01:04.30 | roxville | hey, that's a swedish word! |
| 01:04.45 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 01:04.57 | roxville | cool! |
| 01:05.47 | reliver | shadoi did you tell thanatermesis what you mean by elive deviating from standard enlightenment setup ? |
| 01:06.31 | pr0t0cod7 | reliver: i believe anybody who want's help can find it, for me all Elive/E17 users are testers for now |
| 01:07.18 | reliver | i am not a tester only, i rely on it too, you see ? |
| 01:07.33 | roxville | apt x en es shadoi did you tell thanatermesis what you mean by elive deviating from standard enlightenment setup ? |
| 01:07.53 | shadoi | reliver: yeah... just that we need to standardize on the look and feel. theme, etc. |
| 01:07.55 | pr0t0cod7 | reliver: hmm yes |
| 01:08.27 | reliver | shadoi can e17 be used for simple users ? |
| 01:08.36 | pr0t0cod7 | you mean those who won't pay would not have support? |
| 01:09.03 | reliver | pr0t0cod7, nothing will change from what is available free today. |
| 01:09.09 | shadoi | reliver: That's the goal |
| 01:09.12 | reliver | this is important. |
| 01:09.17 | shadoi | it's not quite there yet though. |
| 01:09.19 | pr0t0cod7 | in fact Elive have nothing special but debian/enlightenment and some user friendly stuffs |
| 01:09.24 | reliver | shadoi i mean today ? |
| 01:09.37 | shadoi | It *can* be, I don't think it *should* be. |
| 01:10.08 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, buenas! :) |
| 01:10.09 | reliver | we are just introducing new semi-commercial offers on top of that, you see ? |
| 01:10.23 | Thanatermesis | buenas Anarien , que tal todo :) |
| 01:10.31 | reliver | shadoi and e16 ? |
| 01:10.33 | Thanatermesis | Anarien que dijiste de un extraño problema con engage-manager ? |
| 01:10.34 | pr0t0cod7 | yes i see but i don't like this idea :) |
| 01:10.41 | Anarien | me puedes repetir tu comentario acerca de x-window-system de forma que yo lo entienda? xD |
| 01:10.52 | pr0t0cod7 | i don't see what interest people will find in it |
| 01:10.54 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, es que me interesa el tema.. |
| 01:10.56 | reliver | pr0t0cod7, your honesty makes it interesting :-) |
| 01:11.02 | reliver | are you a political animal ? |
| 01:11.07 | pr0t0cod7 | lol |
| 01:11.15 | shadoi | reliver: probably the same. e16 is targeted at more competent users. |
| 01:11.17 | Thanatermesis | Anarien nada, que si upgradeas dentro de 5 minutos no habra problema :) |
| 01:11.18 | pr0t0cod7 | nope |
| 01:11.28 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, si, lo del engage-manager es que me putea intentando insertarme letras que yo en nigún momento tipeo |
| 01:11.41 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, oka, estupendo! |
| 01:12.03 | Thanatermesis | Anarien bueno te explico, hay unp roblema que no se como resolver |
| 01:12.12 | reliver | oh, but shadoi, then it looks like it is inevitable that there is a clash with Elive, because as i understand it Elive targets the simple users too ? |
| 01:12.20 | Thanatermesis | el x-window-manager de debian instala XDM, XDM rompe entrance y con lo cual muy seguramente se congela el teclado, el sistema Elive se queda roto.... |
| 01:12.33 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, yo de hecho... ya tengo migrada a xorg, solo que ese paquete en concreto me daba repelús por que intentaba instalarme e configurarme el xdm |
| 01:12.33 | Thanatermesis | yo puedo arreglarlo, con una version "elive" mas actualizada que la de debian |
| 01:12.36 | Thanatermesis | eso no da problemas |
| 01:12.41 | pr0t0cod7 | well we'll see how it's going |
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| 01:12.55 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, ves?, lo que me temia!!, se lo comenté antes a sinplomo |
| 01:12.58 | Thanatermesis | lo que da problemas es a cada nueva version de debian de x-window-manager pasara lo mismo... hasta que yo lo arregle claro... pero mientras tanto ? |
| 01:13.07 | reliver | pr0t0cod7, could the money threaten what we have now ? |
| 01:13.09 | Anarien | he hecho bien de no actualizar ese paquete |
| 01:13.21 | shadoi | reliver: it depends on your definition of simple users I guess. If they are used to the ease of OS X, or *cough* Windows XP, then e17 is still quite rough around the edges. e16 as well. |
| 01:13.44 | roxville | :) |
| 01:13.55 | pr0t0cod7 | reliver: not yet ;) |
| 01:14.03 | reliver | you are right, shadoi, maybe this is why Thanatermesis is deviating from it in Elive ? |
| 01:14.06 | Thanatermesis | Anarien pues la verdad no entiendo la logica de tu engage-manager... no es logico lo que te hace vamos... en que parte te sucede eso? en engage-manager o cuando lanza el programa para crear los EAPs ? |
| 01:14.23 | Thanatermesis | es verdad que el programa no va muy fino... pero supongo que es el mejor front-end que hay :/ |
| 01:14.32 | reliver | but is that why you don't like it, pr0t0cod7 ? |
| 01:14.33 | Anarien | cuando lanza el programa eap bla bla |
| 01:14.40 | shadoi | reliver: Deviation should be fed back into the core. Forking is not the solution, it just makes another set of problems. |
| 01:14.40 | pr0t0cod7 | i wouldn't like to wait for an update to be available if there is one |
| 01:14.41 | roxville | most of it could be fixed with a COUPLE of config apps, instead of all that are now...that's my thinking, but... i am NOT a dev |
| 01:14.52 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, un ejemplo... |
| 01:15.17 | reliver | and what is Thanatermesis' answer to that, shadoi ? did anyone tell him yet ? |
| 01:15.18 | Anarien | antes estaba intentando crear con el un icono eap para rox-filer |
| 01:15.38 | Thanatermesis | reliver Anarien roxville eshep ... the new configurations of Elive without the XDM problem are solved in the main server... we can upgrade without problem :) (let me make first a final reboot test for sure) |
| 01:15.38 | shadoi | reliver: I don't think it's been discussed. that's why I'm bringing it up. |
| 01:15.56 | reliver | excellent, shadoi, i think it is a crucial point :-) |
| 01:16.04 | pr0t0cod7 | reliver: yes i'm not catched by the offer |
| 01:16.07 | Thanatermesis | Anarien si upgradeas ahora, podras pasar a xorg sin problema |
| 01:16.11 | Anarien | en el titulo de icono... yo escribia la R y cuando le daba a la o (minuscula), me escribia la B (mayuscula) xD |
| 01:16.31 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, ya estoy en xorg y sin problemas |
| 01:16.38 | pr0t0cod7 | reliver: so i don't think people will be |
| 01:16.45 | Anarien | estoy desde ayer de hecho |
| 01:16.50 | shadoi | reliver: if elive could become more of an official enlightenment project, then we could get additional developer help, as well as graphic design help and agreement on the way things are implemented and look. |
| 01:17.03 | Anarien | solo que me falta actualizar en concreto ese paquete |
| 01:17.09 | reliver | pr0t0cod7, you are just not catched by it or it makes you worry or feel bad ? |
| 01:17.12 | Anarien | es decir... |
| 01:17.19 | shadoi | reliver: otherwise it will probably result in an additional e17 liveCD distro. |
| 01:17.25 | roxville | pr0t0cod7, i agree with you... until elive is as stable as...1.0 or so...doesn't mean we can't cough up some dev dough for thana though |
| 01:17.43 | pr0t0cod7 | reliver: i don't really mind, i would worry if Elive becomes something too much comercial |
| 01:17.58 | Anarien | x-window-system-core, xbase, xfonts bla bla bla, no me han dado ningún problema con entrance al migrar a xorg |
| 01:18.10 | pr0t0cod7 | and who will do the support |
| 01:18.44 | Anarien | simplemente que a la hora de actualizar x-window-system... intenta meterme el xdm |
| 01:18.49 | reliver | pr0t0cod7, thanatermesis was just as worried as you about that. |
| 01:19.01 | reliver | and i am definitly not in it for the money :-) |
| 01:19.03 | Anarien | y por eso no he querido actualizar ese paquete (de momento) |
| 01:19.30 | reliver | all i aim at would be to sustain thanatermesis as full time coder. |
| 01:19.36 | roxville | pr0t0cod7, i actually understand that part... if they come up with something so good, and so appealing that EVERYBODY would want it, then... why not make a buck on it y'know? |
| 01:19.39 | reliver | you think that is a worthy goal ? |
| 01:20.10 | reliver | Thanatermesis, escuchaste oque shadoi escribiu ? |
| 01:20.15 | Thanatermesis | Anarien si... ahora puedes actualizarlo todo, supongo que no te dara ningun problema |
| 01:20.27 | Anarien | supones?? XD |
| 01:20.34 | Anarien | me puedo fiar de ti? :D |
| 01:20.39 | reliver | eso lo deciste ayer tambien, thanatermesis :-) |
| 01:20.57 | roxville | it would just put elive where mepis, linspire and many others are |
| 01:20.58 | felix | reliver: "deciste" => "dijiste" |
| 01:21.08 | Anarien | joooo, que ahora tengo la Elive guapisima y a mi gusto , me ha costado un montón lograrlo!! xD |
| 01:21.21 | reliver | bien, felix, espero poder aprender ... |
| 01:21.26 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, como me joda algo... te voy a atizar en todo el coco eh!! :) |
| 01:21.38 | felix | reliver: do not worry "decir" is an irregular verb. |
| 01:21.57 | Thanatermesis | pr0t0cod7 tu a compris le probleme de le upgrade x-window-system avec entrance et xdm ? |
| 01:22.09 | Anarien | sabes que... que yo me espero a que lo pruebe alguien y me lo cuente! xDDDDDDDDD |
| 01:22.10 | roxville | but i think there should be a free version... like vactorlinux has |
| 01:22.11 | Thanatermesis | <reliver> Thanatermesis, escuchaste oque shadoi escribiu ? |
| 01:22.16 | roxville | vector |
| 01:22.22 | Thanatermesis | que parte exactamente ? me costó un poco entender ingles... pero algo |
| 01:22.40 | reliver | there is no change planned to any of the free offers, right Thanatermesis ? |
| 01:22.53 | pr0t0cod7 | Working in full time on Elive would be cool, i'm sure Thanatermesis would be very pleased to do it as raster would be to dev e17 full time |
| 01:23.09 | pr0t0cod7 | Thanatermesis: pas vraiment |
| 01:23.18 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es there is no change planned to any of the free offers, right Thanatermesis ? |
| 01:23.29 | reliver | ok, pr0t0cod7, that is the only reason why i try to launch and promote the club thing. |
| 01:23.34 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es Working in full time on Elive would be cool, i'm sure Thanatermesis would be very pleased to do it as raster would be to dev e17 full time |
| 01:23.43 | Thanatermesis | yes reliver |
| 01:23.52 | reliver | yee, roxville ? |
| 01:23.52 | Thanatermesis | pr0t0cod7 je te explique... |
| 01:25.11 | roxville | what reliver? |
| 01:25.52 | reliver | i meant: "see, roxville ?", that there is no change planned to any of the current free offers of Elive. |
| 01:26.30 | roxville | no no, reliver, i wasn't worried about that |
| 01:26.34 | pr0t0cod7 | reliver: i understand what you want, but i think it's a hard thing to achieve |
| 01:26.43 | reliver | thanatermesis, es verdad que tentas lancar 0.4 este otono ? |
| 01:26.55 | roxville | you were clearly looking at a future elive, so i started thinking like that too :) |
| 01:26.58 | Thanatermesis | il i a un grand probleme avec le package de x-window-system de debian... il dépend de xdm et il casse entrance et surement le login de elive... le clavier par example... mais j'ai mon propre version de x-window-system pour elive, il depend pas de xdm, et entrance maintenant je le ai remis comme avant (il et pas compatible avec xdm, ou un ou l'autre).... jusque la pas de probleme... mais alors, le user il fait un dist-upgrade... si dans c |
| 01:26.58 | Thanatermesis | e moment la, debian il a nouvelle version de x-window-system, il depend de xdm et il casse Elive (deja arrivee 2 fois, 2 nouvelles versions), comment le solutioner? par le moment, je dois me rendre compte tot et le reparer le plus vite posible (10 minutes apres que je le voi), mais c'est pas sure... toutes les persones qui upgrade AVANT ça, il peut casser le systeme... c'est un grand probleme... |
| 01:27.02 | pr0t0cod7 | O_o |
| 01:27.05 | pr0t0cod7 | :) |
| 01:27.26 | reliver | ok, pr0t0cod7, you maybe right, but in this case you are not feeling uncomfortable with it anymore ? |
| 01:28.07 | etech | hey.. just got a question.. since i've installed elive on hd, i my clock goes wrong.. exactly for ours.. where can i change the time? the live cd had a nice graphical tool.. can i find somewhere in hd-elive? |
| 01:28.18 | Thanatermesis | alors la pr0t0cod7 , il i a le example de le serveur privée, le serveur privée il contiendra tout le repo de debian + Elive dans un seul, plus de 12 GB de packages... c'est l'idée de un serveur "frozen" chaque semaine, que si il i a pas de probleme pedant la semaine, on le upgrade... si il a de probleme, on le voit, et les gents il aurent pas le probleme... tu me suit ? |
| 01:28.27 | reliver | no, roxville, we are trying to launch the club now ... |
| 01:29.19 | Thanatermesis | tout cette BIG conection, serveur et tout ça ça cout deja de l'argent... c'est ça deja un partie de le club elive... bien sure je ne veut pas que a les personnes il se casse son Elive si il et pas du club... mais je cherche une meilleure solution mais je ne trouve pas pour ce cas la avec x-widnow-system :( |
| 01:30.09 | roxville | ok.... but why? thana would be hard pressed to make improvements...not like now...he's very tired, but he's having the time of his life |
| 01:30.32 | Thanatermesis | reliver si, intentaré lanzar Elive 0.4 lo antes posible... con xorg, con la primera version de Elpanel... con los "minimos detalles" reparados... pero el kernel nuevo creo que lo dejaré para la version 0.5 , asi me aseguro de sacar una buena version con 0.4 |
| 01:30.46 | roxville | sure, he'd make a buck or 2, but...would it make up for the joy? |
| 01:30.54 | roxville | at this early stage? |
| 01:30.58 | reliver | thanatermesis, shadoi offre de l'aide pour resoudre ces problemes si tu travaille plus avec les programmeurs de enlightenment ... |
| 01:31.08 | Thanatermesis | etech datetimeconf (or install it if you don't have the command) |
| 01:31.28 | reliver | the joy, roxville ? where is the contradiction ? |
| 01:31.44 | etech | thank you very much.. now i can keep an eye on the time and go to bed earlier :-) htx! |
| 01:31.49 | etech | thx |
| 01:32.00 | pr0t0cod7 | reliver: nope, it's just that i dont _feel_ involved with this.. |
| 01:32.13 | roxville | if you enjoy producing, you can make money. if you make money, you HAVE to produce |
| 01:32.36 | pr0t0cod7 | but i believe in the Elive project |
| 01:32.38 | roxville | lol etech |
| 01:32.56 | reliver | no roxville, the money is not for new versions, it is just for a specially tested repository. |
| 01:33.13 | roxville | yes |
| 01:34.15 | roxville | which thana will be hard-pressed to update all the time... i don't know how thana works, i can only go from how i do things |
| 01:34.58 | reliver | roxville, why would he be hard-pressed ? |
| 01:35.31 | reliver | roxville, you say you enjoy payed gigs less ? |
| 01:35.40 | Thanatermesis | shadoi yes.. Im trying to solve problems with the E develop, Im report bugs to e16 for kim, Im have recomended to active the /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes for accept themes (not supported, but I need this, my theme packages is for this dirs.. NOT POSIBLE to install theme packages in all users .e/e/themes dirs... (not accepted, the themes dir its a 'temporal' hack waiting a future theme-changer), engage-standalone not posible to rep |
| 01:35.41 | Thanatermesis | ort bugs (not continue develop), Im report bugs to evidence, yes... and entrance is delicated... I have modified the source code for accept a FIXED variable with PATH dirs... this needs for e17 and e16 show programs enabled or not... and the LANG variable for have enlightenment in the desired language... (aparently the PATH variable its a delicated point in entrance... no all distros uses the same way for look the language conf, I have m |
| 01:35.41 | Thanatermesis | odified the source code for accept the /etc/environment file for set the language) |
| 01:36.01 | roxville | look reliver , i'm NOT against a version like that, believe me...is it thana's idea? great, let's do it! is it somebody else's idea?.... has thana been sold to this idea? |
| 01:36.05 | roxville | please tell me |
| 01:36.08 | Thanatermesis | pr0t0cod7 tu comprend ce que je voulait dire ? |
| 01:36.25 | pr0t0cod7 | Thanatermesis:a propos de?...je lis.. |
| 01:36.49 | reliver | great, Thanatermesis :-) |
| 01:37.15 | eshep | Thanatermesis, does the update thing work now? |
| 01:37.25 | reliver | no, thanatermesis was against this idea, initially, roxville. |
| 01:37.54 | reliver | i don't think he is sold to it, no. |
| 01:38.02 | roxville | i think he'll do it when he feels ready, reliver |
| 01:38.38 | reliver | what are you trying to achieve now, roxville ? |
| 01:38.54 | roxville | reliver, on the gigs where i think i sucked, i refuse to take money |
| 01:39.25 | reliver | ok, he can do exactly the same with the club, roxville, no problem. |
| 01:39.26 | roxville | because i don't want money for something i didn't do right |
| 01:39.53 | Thanatermesis | eshep yes, try apt-get update and dist-upgrade... but is better if you first put the result of the command in www.pastebin.com for Im final look |
| 01:40.27 | roxville | reliver LISTEN! i think thana WILL do it! and make a LOT of money on it! when he's ready to do so |
| 01:40.55 | reliver | so now you shout at me for that ? |
| 01:41.17 | roxville | sorry |
| 01:41.24 | reliver | no problem. |
| 01:41.39 | eshep | Thanatermesis, can i upgrade my hd install from the livecd? |
| 01:41.40 | roxville | i was feeling that were turning everything i said around |
| 01:41.55 | reliver | maybe i misunderstand you, but it looks like you want me to stop doing what i am trying to build here ? |
| 01:42.25 | reliver | people say that about me since 20 years at least ... :-( |
| 01:42.35 | roxville | reliver, last i looked , we were making a wiki |
| 01:43.02 | reliver | yes, which morphed into a sort of club ? |
| 01:43.03 | Thanatermesis | eshep yes, enter in your disk mount point and type "chroot . " , and upgrade it in the new shell |
| 01:44.15 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, lo acabo de hacer!! xD |
| 01:44.35 | Anarien | acabo de actualizar entrance y x-window-system |
| 01:44.54 | Anarien | ainsss, me dá miedo reiniciar!!! xDDDDDDDDD |
| 01:45.19 | Anarien | bueno, valor y al toro |
| 01:45.37 | Anarien | adios mundo cruel, fué bonito mientras duró!! :) |
| 01:46.28 | Anarien | una cosa... si no vuelvo es que ha ido mal y a estas horas paso de solucionar problemas (ya lo haré mañana) |
| 01:46.47 | reliver | buena fortuna Anarien :-) |
| 01:47.18 | reliver | roxville ? |
| 01:47.21 | Anarien | si sale bien... en unos minutos estoy aqui al menos para decir como ha ido y despedirme de vosotros (por que una se va a ir a dormir igualmente eh! xD) |
| 01:47.48 | Anarien | reliver, gracias! y hasta ahora.. (esperemos... xD) |
| 01:48.02 | reliver | con el nuevo dist-upgrade Elive hoy se cambia x-window-system, si ? |
| 01:48.32 | reliver | tengo la mesma situacion, anarien, nos vemos en facia a la morte, si ? :-) |
| 01:49.44 | Thanatermesis | reliver update |
| 01:49.49 | Thanatermesis | si se hace ahora ya esta reparado |
| 01:49.53 | Thanatermesis | no tendria que dar problemas |
| 01:51.13 | reliver | eshep are you here ? |
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| 01:53.36 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 01:53.42 | Anarien | voila! |
| 01:53.50 | Thanatermesis | perfecto :) |
| 01:53.53 | Anarien | estoy aqui vivita y coleando :) |
| 01:54.19 | Thanatermesis | habra que esperar a la nueva version de x-window-system de parte de debian para que vuelva a joder el chiringuito xD |
| 01:54.29 | Anarien | jaja |
| 01:55.01 | Anarien | yo ya estaré ojo avizor de no actualizar sin ton ni son.. |
| 01:55.02 | reliver | reboot now, here :-) |
| 01:55.34 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, pero tiene que haber una forma de solucionarlo... |
| 01:55.49 | Anarien | no vamos a estar asi continuamente... |
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| 01:56.00 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, seguro que das con la solución! |
| 01:56.13 | eshep | reliver, yeah im here |
| 01:56.21 | reliver | rapidissimo, congratulaciones, Thanatermesis. |
| 01:56.25 | eshep | i have to work though |
| 01:56.48 | Thanatermesis | <Anarien> Thanatermesis, pero tiene que haber una forma de solucionarlo... |
| 01:56.50 | reliver | brb, too, eshep |
| 01:56.54 | Thanatermesis | ese es el problema que llevo diciendo... |
| 01:57.01 | Thanatermesis | solo se puede solucionar cuando yo veo el problema |
| 01:57.10 | Thanatermesis | y mientras tanto, si alguien hace el upgrade, se jode |
| 01:57.20 | Thanatermesis | no hay otra forma posible... |
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| 01:57.22 | Anarien | ya ya, pero que en cualquier momento se te enciende la bombilla, ya veras como si! :) |
| 01:57.28 | Muta | hooooola! |
| 01:57.39 | Thanatermesis | como yo digo... grande sproblemas grandes soluciones... pero las grandes soluciones cuenstan pasta :) |
| 01:57.41 | Muta | qiubole ani |
| 01:57.54 | Muta | qiubole thana |
| 01:58.04 | Thanatermesis | hi Muta |
| 01:58.26 | Anarien | quien es ani? |
| 01:58.33 | Muta | tu jiji |
| 01:58.36 | Anarien | XD |
| 01:58.46 | Muta | m da flojera ecribir tooodo tu niq |
| 01:58.47 | Anarien | ya me lo parecida pero no osaba... :) |
| 01:58.51 | Thanatermesis | claro Anarien ... una forma seria teniendo como repositorio de Elive al repositorio ENTERO de debian junto y que la gente use SOLO este repo y no el de debian... eso impone 12 gigas de server dedicados, un peazo server que todo el mundo se pueda descargar de alli... todo eso vale pasta tambien |
| 01:59.06 | Anarien | eeeeeh!!, en todo caso seria... ana :) |
| 01:59.20 | Muta | 12gig guuulp..e |
| 01:59.25 | Muta | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.36 | Muta | ani m lo guta mas |
| 01:59.50 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, comprendo, y no crees que pueda haber otra posible solución mas sencilla? |
| 02:00.39 | Muta | ya cenamos? hace hambrita :s .. 9pm |
| 02:00.39 | Anarien | ya veras como algo se te ocurre, no desesperemos (yo confio en ti) :D |
| 02:00.54 | Anarien | si no... no hubiera actualizado xD |
| 02:01.06 | Muta | :) jiji |
| 02:01.08 | Anarien | ya me ha costado eh, por eso...! xd |
| 02:01.13 | Muta | q usabas antes ani? |
| 02:01.38 | eshep | Thanatermesis, here are the errors i get when apt-get update from chroot |
| 02:01.41 | eshep | 1% [2 Packages 36864/3470kB 1%]FATAL -> Could not set non-blocking flag Bad file descriptor |
| 02:01.41 | eshep | E: Method http has died unexpectedly! |
| 02:01.42 | Anarien | antes de que Muta |
| 02:01.48 | Anarien | ? |
| 02:01.57 | Muta | desacuesstate! apenas empieza la noche..o tu madrugada jiji..q hr es en cataluñia? |
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| 02:02.45 | Muta | y thana d donde eres? barcelones? madrileño? |
| 02:02.50 | reliver | done a real reboot now. |
| 02:02.51 | Anarien | Muta, las 4:00 am |
| 02:03.01 | reliver | looks like my hd could have problems. |
| 02:03.14 | Anarien | uys que tarde!!, me tengo que ir a dormir que mañana veras... XD |
| 02:03.19 | Muta | antes d dar y upgrade |
| 02:03.31 | Muta | nos vemos! ayooo0 muermes rico |
| 02:03.43 | Muta | aqi t hago segunda |
| 02:03.46 | Anarien | entrance (antes tambien usaba entrance) |
| 02:04.01 | Anarien | Muta, gracias =mente |
| 02:04.09 | Muta | jiji ya vete a murmir! |
| 02:04.11 | Anarien | al resto hasta mañana |
| 02:04.17 | Muta | bai bai |
| 02:05.01 | Muta | qe cosas aqi aun es 26 sept..y alla 27 jiiji son un dia mas viejos |
| 02:05.56 | reliver | mas que un dia, Muta, soy centenaios mas viejito ... :-) |
| 02:06.36 | Muta | haha .p y tu d donde eres? |
| 02:06.55 | Thanatermesis | <Anarien> ya veras como algo se te ocurre, no desesperemos (yo confio en ti) :D |
| 02:06.57 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 02:07.39 | eshep | Thanatermesis, it gives me that error when trying ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch/main Release |
| 02:07.49 | Thanatermesis | eshep you can't posible enter from ssh from your another machiens |
| 02:07.55 | reliver | de suiza, Muta |
| 02:08.21 | eshep | Thanatermesis, ill try |
| 02:08.45 | Thanatermesis | nerim ? heh |
| 02:08.53 | Muta | wow! y eres español viviendo alla? ,reliver |
| 02:08.56 | Thanatermesis | ignore this eshep ? |
| 02:09.32 | reliver | gracias, Muta, tento defenderme con un poco de espanol errado, si. |
| 02:10.00 | reliver | mas naci aqui y todo ... |
| 02:11.02 | reliver | dev/hdc1 was not cleanly unmounted ... fsck .... failed ... automatic retry .... worked. |
| 02:11.25 | Muta | reliver, so u were born in suize? |
| 02:11.34 | reliver | yes, Muta |
| 02:12.07 | Muta | reliver, ahh okok i understand now jiji..im mexican.. :P |
| 02:12.30 | reliver | thanatermesis, did you see the solution for the Elive license ? |
| 02:12.46 | reliver | great, Muta, you are a girl ? |
| 02:12.59 | Muta | noup |
| 02:13.21 | reliver | noup, oque es noup ? |
| 02:13.49 | reliver | thanatermesis, viste la solucion para la licensia para Elive ? |
| 02:13.57 | Muta | noup is an.. im not a girl im a boy |
| 02:14.22 | Thanatermesis | si reliver |
| 02:14.29 | Thanatermesis | pensé esta noche para la licencia de Elive |
| 02:14.38 | reliver | ah, do the mexicans also have this habit of giving males names ending in -a ? |
| 02:14.39 | Thanatermesis | mañana te la explicaré con mas detalle ;) |
| 02:15.15 | reliver | bien. |
| 02:15.35 | reliver | me diceran que so podria ser BSD por causa de Enlightenment. |
| 02:16.27 | Muta | reliver, ending with an -a? like for example.....? |
| 02:16.40 | reliver | like Mut-a :-) |
| 02:17.23 | Thanatermesis | roxville aparently this "option/feature" don't works :)= |
| 02:17.27 | Thanatermesis | si reliver ... lo se... por eso explicaré mejor toda la licencia mañana ;) |
| 02:17.36 | Muta | haha..my real nick is mutacion..when i use an ordinary x86..but when im on a pocket pc(pda) i use muta .. jiji |
| 02:18.08 | reliver | bien, gracias para todo, thanatermesis, te bates bien para uno de 25 anos :P |
| 02:18.39 | reliver | no, realmente te defendes bien en este territorio de competencia de locos :-) |
| 02:18.48 | Muta | haha |
| 02:19.00 | Muta | thana tienes 25? |
| 02:19.24 | Muta | por cierto q significa thanatermesis? |
| 02:20.08 | Thanatermesis | gracias reliver :) |
| 02:20.24 | Thanatermesis | Muta una mezcla de 3 dioses griegos... tanateo, hermes y nemesis |
| 02:20.25 | reliver | significa la muerte, el patron del negocio, y la fin y destrucion de todo ... ;-) |
| 02:20.33 | Thanatermesis | exacto :) |
| 02:20.53 | Muta | o |
| 02:20.58 | Thanatermesis | (destruccion de microsoft) lol |
| 02:21.12 | reliver | ah :-) |
| 02:21.44 | reliver | es bien explicar este detailito, pero, thanatermesis ... ;-O |
| 02:21.55 | Muta | haha...tu niq suena a un angel d la serie d anime..evangelion xD |
| 02:22.16 | Thanatermesis | ah si Muta ? jeje, no lo conozco |
| 02:22.59 | Muta | deberias d verla es una serie d anime famosiiisima...usa robotcs biomecanicos jiji ta bastante buena :p |
| 02:23.41 | Muta | bueno voy a cenar..regreso mas alrato.. 9.23pm |
| 02:23.54 | Muta | regresare a poner gorro xd ya m |
| 02:24.07 | Muta | ya m gusto entrar a este canal jiji |
| 02:24.12 | reliver | buena cena, gordo :-) |
| 02:25.36 | Thanatermesis | gordo? lol |
| 02:26.32 | reliver | en los paizes latinos, los bien amados son gordos por directiva de la mama :-) |
| 02:28.14 | Thanatermesis | jejeje |
| 02:29.22 | Thanatermesis | ok, I goo to the bed... |
| 02:29.25 | Thanatermesis | tomorrow more :) |
| 02:29.34 | reliver | excellent, sleep well :-) |
| 02:29.38 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 02:29.41 | Thanatermesis | good night all |
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| 02:54.40 | Muta | ahora no m ven..ahora si m vennn..jiji |
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| 03:13.35 | Muta | ese quidam- |
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| 03:31.00 | quidam- | hola Muta |
| 03:32.27 | quidam- | hello eshep |
| 03:33.02 | eshep | hola quidam, did you get your dual boot to work? |
| 03:33.20 | quidam- | yes |
| 03:33.30 | quidam- | but its so easy |
| 03:33.37 | quidam- | i mount the ubuntu partition |
| 03:33.49 | quidam- | and i copy the menu.list |
| 03:33.57 | quidam- | and edit other lines |
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| 03:34.12 | quidam- | and work |
| 03:34.22 | quidam- | :P |
| 03:34.32 | eshep | aha, so you just...kinda...cheated or tricked it into working |
| 03:35.06 | quidam- | apt x en es, aha, so you just...kinda...cheated or tricked it into working |
| 03:35.12 | eshep | now you have the "u" grub menu. good idea |
| 03:35.26 | quidam- | jajajaja |
| 03:36.12 | quidam- | but thanks for your help |
| 03:36.14 | quidam- | ;) |
| 03:36.35 | eshep | no problem, anytime |
| 03:38.10 | quidam- | apt x es en eshep lo mejor de todo es que ahora uso mas seguido elive porque me gusto mucho usar esa distro |
| 03:39.20 | eshep | apt x en es so your liking it? do you use e16 or e17? |
| 03:40.30 | quidam- | apt x es en uso e16 y me gusta mucho |
| 03:44.44 | quidam- | ciao a todos |
| 03:44.47 | quidam- | ;) |
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| 07:35.01 | Elive_user | schmick cunts |
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| 09:53.05 | eddan | I timed out, did anyone answer the partitionmorpher question? |
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| 09:58.57 | Thanatermesis | apt x de en schmick cunts |
| 09:59.27 | Thanatermesis | 'good morning |
| 10:01.37 | eddan | Thanatermesis: Got any good tips on how I could upgrade (if any upgrades are available) the menu editor in e17? It always SEGABRTs here. |
| 10:02.00 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es Got any good tips on how I could upgrade (if any upgrades are available) the menu editor in e17? It always SEGABRTs here. |
| 10:02.32 | Thanatermesis | this is a problem of e17 |
| 10:02.39 | Thanatermesis | e17 its in developement |
| 10:03.05 | eddan | I know, just wondered if there was a cvs version I could install that might solve the problem |
| 10:03.10 | Thanatermesis | and is posible to segfault today in a part or tomorrow in another |
| 10:03.23 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es I know, just wondered if there was a cvs version I could install that might solve the problem |
| 10:03.38 | Thanatermesis | the packages works in CVS mode... |
| 10:03.45 | eddan | ok |
| 10:04.17 | Thanatermesis | Im upgrade the packages 1 week or 2 weeks... depends, If im look a good work of the e17 (in my posible), im upgrade packages |
| 10:04.24 | eddan | Are you translating to spanish with apt? |
| 10:04.56 | Thanatermesis | no, but I have very used "apt" for undesrtand or translate... because this I have a babelfish english :) |
| 10:05.11 | eddan | why is it "el problema" and not "la problema" ? |
| 10:05.25 | Thanatermesis | hehe, good question |
| 10:05.40 | Thanatermesis | aparently, "problema" are masculin |
| 10:06.09 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es are |
| 10:06.19 | eddan | guess so |
| 10:06.59 | eddan | apt x en es To have |
| 10:11.47 | eddan | If I want to compile my own kernel, is it possible to load the default settings that elive/debian/morphix use into make menuconfig so that I know that it is working from the start? |
| 10:13.22 | eddan | From there I could just add/remove the small stuff I need |
| 10:17.04 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 10:17.27 | Thanatermesis | copy the /boot/config* file to /usr/src/linux/.config and type "make oldconfig" |
| 10:18.01 | eddan | excellent, thanks |
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| 11:32.52 | Thanatermesis | ~x en es While this isn't a large change I had occasion to get more info from this error and thought I'd send out this patch. It's one line which adds the edje error # to the "Failed to load theme" error in entrance. I am also not attaching as it is such a simple change. |
| 11:32.52 | elive-bot | Thanatermesis: for change e17 themes, select one with the command "apt-cache search enlightenment 17 themes", install one and only copy with this line: "cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes" and it will work |
| 11:36.43 | eddan | Thanatermesis: After installing the evolume e17 module, how do I get it in the Modules list in the menu? I tried restarting e17. |
| 11:37.33 | Thanatermesis | look the get-e.org info, or enlightenment_remote -help |
| 11:37.44 | Thanatermesis | enlightenment_remote -module-load evolume |
| 11:38.06 | Thanatermesis | Im not are a expert of e17, Im use e16... in any case, this questions is for #e, #e.fr or #e.es |
| 11:38.31 | eddan | ok, just noticed you was the package maintainer so thought I'd try :) |
| 11:38.33 | eddan | Thanks |
| 11:49.06 | eddan | It worked btw :) |
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| 12:55.40 | gorku | hi all |
| 12:55.46 | gorku | :) |
| 13:17.33 | eddan | hi |
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| 13:42.44 | roxville | enlightenment_remote -module-load flame |
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| 13:48.35 | kender | hello |
| 13:49.13 | roxville | hi kender |
| 13:49.23 | kender | hi roxville :) |
| 13:49.33 | roxville | doing good? |
| 13:50.58 | kender | yeah |
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| 13:54.31 | roxville | wb sHR00m |
| 13:54.57 | roxville | that's good kender :) where in spain do you live? |
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| 14:00.34 | kender | roxville, in north of spain |
| 14:00.43 | kender | y Bilbao |
| 14:00.52 | kender | Guggenhein you know |
| 14:00.54 | kender | :) |
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| 14:01.04 | roxville | lol, yep :) |
| 14:01.28 | kender | roxville, have you ever been here? |
| 14:01.30 | gorku | kender, i live near you, in Eibar city :P |
| 14:01.46 | kender | gorku, wow that's fantastic |
| 14:01.47 | kender | :) |
| 14:01.55 | gorku | X'D |
| 14:02.04 | kender | gorku, and we speaking in english... |
| 14:02.05 | kender | xDD |
| 14:02.22 | kender | edo euskaraz gorku ? |
| 14:02.23 | kender | xD |
| 14:05.56 | roxville | kender, no i have never been to bilbao. i've been to a crappy little town near andorra, just ON the french border |
| 14:06.39 | kender | ohh, and where are you from? |
| 14:06.51 | roxville | i always wanted to go to the biscay bay area though |
| 14:07.05 | roxville | i am from sweden. but now i live in the us |
| 14:07.20 | kender | ahh |
| 14:07.37 | kender | biscay bay area? |
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| 14:09.24 | mariodebian | holas |
| 14:09.25 | roxville | bay of biscay... where bilbao is? |
| 14:09.36 | kender | hi mariodebian |
| 14:09.43 | mariodebian | hi kender! |
| 14:10.10 | mariodebian | who said me a few days ago about amule packages? |
| 14:11.04 | kender | roxville, mm.. biscay == vizcaia |
| 14:11.07 | kender | xD |
| 14:11.15 | kender | or in basque bizkaia |
| 14:14.17 | roxville | that would be how you say it, yes :) |
| 14:15.23 | roxville | ok, i gotta go take care of my daughter, see you later on! |
| 14:15.25 | reliver3 | roxville old hat, what are you up to ? :-) |
| 14:15.34 | kender | bye roxville |
| 14:15.59 | roxville | reliver...daughter stuff...she sure keeps daddy busy :) |
| 14:16.27 | kender | hehehe |
| 14:16.56 | rl | buanos dias |
| 14:17.08 | kender | hi rl |
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| 14:21.59 | rl | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:29.34 | sceptiQ | whow i have to list more than 1 host in /etc/hosts.allow? |
| 14:32.59 | reliver | Thanatermesis buenos dias, te gustaria distribuir CDs de 0.4.1 gratis ? |
| 14:35.07 | reliver | hello sceptiq |
| 14:35.11 | sceptiQ | hello |
| 14:35.21 | reliver | what was you question ? |
| 14:35.38 | sceptiQ | the syntax for list more than one host in /etc/hosts.allow |
| 14:36.10 | reliver | if only i knew... does google show ? |
| 14:37.05 | sceptiQ | hm how to ask google? ^^ |
| 14:37.22 | sceptiQ | "how to list more than one host in hosts.allow?" :D |
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| 14:39.02 | reliver | sceptiq, paste your question "the syntax for list more than one host in /etc/hosts.allow" into google, 15'000 answers. |
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| 14:39.50 | reliver | hola kender |
| 14:40.50 | kender | buenas reliver |
| 14:40.53 | kender | :) |
| 14:41.08 | reliver | como estas ? |
| 14:41.14 | kender | bien gracias :) |
| 14:41.18 | kender | y tu? |
| 14:41.23 | reliver | oque estas hacendo ? |
| 14:41.31 | reliver | mas o menos como siempre ;) |
| 14:41.51 | kender | jejje |
| 14:41.51 | kender | si |
| 14:41.53 | kender | mas o menos |
| 14:42.00 | kender | liado con ASM |
| 14:42.01 | reliver | ah, mira :-) |
| 14:42.01 | kender | jeje |
| 14:42.12 | reliver | ASM ? |
| 14:43.11 | kender | assembly |
| 14:43.15 | kender | ensamblador |
| 14:43.33 | reliver | oh :-) escribindo drivers ? |
| 14:43.38 | kender | no |
| 14:43.43 | kender | probando solo |
| 14:43.45 | kender | jejeje |
| 14:43.54 | kender | aprendiendo lo basico de ensamblador |
| 14:43.55 | reliver | kender better english ? |
| 14:43.56 | kender | :) |
| 14:44.20 | kender | well..if you like... I know better spanish...but.. |
| 14:44.23 | kender | .hehehe |
| 14:44.36 | reliver | ok, it's good for me to learn spanish. |
| 14:44.54 | kender | and to me learn english |
| 14:44.56 | kender | heheh |
| 14:44.57 | reliver | oque te falta lo mas, en elive, kender ? |
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| 14:45.34 | reliver | entonces lo mejor seria yo escribir en ingles y tu en espanol. |
| 14:45.35 | kender | no te entiendo, repite la pregunta de otra manera :) |
| 14:45.56 | reliver | assi aprendemos menos errores :-) |
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| 14:46.09 | kender | jajaja |
| 14:46.10 | kender | si |
| 14:46.20 | reliver | what are you missing most in elive ? |
| 14:46.45 | kender | mm..... |
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| 14:47.14 | reliver | hola felix :-) |
| 14:47.35 | felix | reliver: hola! |
| 14:47.38 | felix | reliver: cómo estás? |
| 14:48.01 | reliver | nadien quiere escribir para el wiki, felix ... |
| 14:48.35 | kender | reliver, thats a really dificult question |
| 14:48.36 | kender | heheh |
| 14:48.39 | reliver | kender, estoy interessado en una lista do mas importante, no necesitas pensar mucho ... |
| 14:49.04 | felix | reliver: ¿qué wiki? |
| 14:49.17 | reliver | http://club.elivecd.org |
| 14:50.24 | kender | well, sometimes I miss an apache server hehe |
| 14:51.57 | reliver | si that all, kender ? |
| 14:52.05 | kender | yes |
| 14:52.07 | kender | hehehe |
| 14:52.10 | reliver | oh. |
| 14:52.14 | felix | reliver: ¿club? |
| 14:52.20 | reliver | so easy for you to install, right ? |
| 14:52.32 | reliver | si, felix, te gusta ? |
| 14:52.46 | kender | yes |
| 14:53.08 | felix | reliver: hmmm.... no estoy seguro. |
| 14:53.18 | reliver | cuentame, felix |
| 14:54.00 | felix | reliver: Jejeje... no, mejor no :) |
| 14:54.23 | reliver | porque no ? |
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| 15:45.15 | reliver | hello cocozz |
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| 15:50.36 | sinplomo | reliver, what's up |
| 15:54.28 | cocozz | hi all :-) |
| 15:54.37 | cocozz | isnt thanatarmesis here ? |
| 15:55.14 | sinplomo | nop |
| 16:02.27 | reliver | hello sinplomo :-) |
| 16:02.37 | reliver | going to take a shower now :-) |
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| 16:34.09 | sinplomo | _H_, se acerca el ramdan |
| 16:34.15 | sinplomo | voy a sufrir .. |
| 16:34.22 | sinplomo | xD |
| 16:34.23 | _H_ | ah |
| 16:34.40 | _H_ | primero no me di cuenta de la esteganografia sobre la palabra |
| 16:34.43 | _H_ | :) |
| 16:34.50 | sinplomo | es en la primera semana de octubre ... |
| 16:34.51 | _H_ | vives alla? |
| 16:34.59 | sinplomo | si |
| 16:35.03 | _H_ | a mi se me dio muy mal |
| 16:35.15 | _H_ | todo iva bien pero un detalle me era dificil |
| 16:35.29 | _H_ | no hablaremos de eso ahora :) |
| 16:35.46 | sinplomo | xDDD |
| 16:36.52 | sinplomo | _H_, sabias que aqui es un delito ir comiendo por ejemplo un bocata por la calle en pleno ramadan ? |
| 16:36.58 | sinplomo | ( antes de atardecer claro) |
| 16:37.08 | _H_ | conozco la costumbre :) |
| 16:39.10 | _H_ | bueno, el mundo esta algo confundido y eso causa mucho mal, el ramdan es mucho menos dañino que otros efectos de muchas otras cosas |
| 16:39.23 | _H_ | quiero decir que fastidia un poco para quien no cree pero no mata a nadie |
| 16:40.49 | _H_ | animo :) |
| 16:41.07 | sinplomo | gracias :) |
| 16:42.11 | _H_ | lo unico que podemos hacer frente a cosas como esas es divulgación pero es un tema muy delicado y debe respetarse la libertad de todos |
| 16:42.18 | _H_ | esa es mi opinion |
| 16:42.47 | _H_ | uno debe poder ser feliz con su islam igual que con su ateismo y no debe marginarse ni presionarse |
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| 16:47.29 | mariodebian | cd |
| 16:47.34 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 16:47.48 | mariodebian | ups :$ |
| 16:47.55 | Thanatermesis | a veces suele pasar ;) |
| 16:48.17 | mariodebian | menos mal q no era un passs |
| 16:48.46 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 16:48.50 | Thanatermesis | halbando de eso |
| 16:48.58 | Thanatermesis | el otro dia me lo tuve que cambiar el del IRC |
| 16:49.15 | Thanatermesis | hice un screenshot en donde se veia el pass que introduje xD |
| 16:49.22 | mariodebian | jejejejejje |
| 16:49.47 | Thanatermesis | menos mal que me avisaron :) |
| 16:50.17 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo ya has probado el jamon ? |
| 16:50.33 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, si |
| 16:50.33 | mariodebian | he subido algunos paquetes deb, echales un vistazo por si quieres meter alguno en elive |
| 16:50.43 | mariodebian | http://idefix.eup.uva.es/paquetes |
| 16:50.57 | mariodebian | las descripciones estan el en Packages.gz |
| 16:50.57 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, he probado de _todo_ ( y no me seas malpensado ) |
| 16:51.14 | Thanatermesis | xDDD |
| 16:51.21 | Thanatermesis | voy a ver |
| 16:51.41 | Thanatermesis | el amule me interesa.. para testing ? que tal anda ? |
| 16:51.51 | mariodebian | ya lo he partido en 2 |
| 16:51.58 | mariodebian | y depende de las libs de testing |
| 16:52.07 | mariodebian | libwxgtk .... |
| 16:52.15 | mariodebian | funciona mu bien |
| 16:52.16 | Thanatermesis | aha, osea, totalmente compatible pues ? |
| 16:52.20 | mariodebian | esta compilado sobre gtk2 |
| 16:52.25 | sinplomo | va de perlas :) |
| 16:52.30 | mariodebian | y tiene lo que no tiene el de SID |
| 16:52.31 | Thanatermesis | probaste make-deb check ? :) |
| 16:52.35 | mariodebian | amuled y amulegui |
| 16:52.49 | mariodebian | nops .( |
| 16:53.14 | mariodebian | estoy por escribir al empaquetador de debian para que haga algunos cambios... |
| 16:53.21 | mariodebian | quedan bastantes cosas sin instalar |
| 16:53.35 | mariodebian | manuales, un plugin para xchat y el amuled y el gui |
| 16:53.45 | mariodebian | con su paquete.... el mio si lo trae |
| 16:54.05 | Thanatermesis | si... hay que reconocer que los paquetes de debian estan "un poco" abandonados en si... :/ |
| 16:54.23 | Thanatermesis | sera su dificultosa y larga forma de trabajar para empaquetarlos ? xD |
| 16:54.59 | CGA_AFK | Thanatermesis, te ha preguintato alguno para la licenza? yo stoi esperando el mio amigo para preguntar el |
| 16:55.15 | Thanatermesis | veamos pues... me bajo el amule y el amule-utils.... |
| 16:55.25 | Thanatermesis | oh, yes CGA_AFK ... |
| 16:55.27 | mariodebian | la verion 2.0.3-3 |
| 16:55.34 | Thanatermesis | but I have decided a choice for the license :) |
| 16:55.36 | mariodebian | la 2.0.3-1 esta todo junto... |
| 16:55.38 | mariodebian | es la vieja |
| 16:55.49 | CGA_AFK | Thanatermesis, que tal? |
| 16:55.52 | Thanatermesis | ok, mariodebian dame un segundo y yo mismo te paso el make-deb check ;) |
| 16:55.55 | CGA_AFK | de la licenza |
| 16:55.59 | mariodebian | oks |
| 16:57.10 | CGA_AFK | Thanatermesis, which license? BSD? are you sure is ok? |
| 16:57.30 | CGA_AFK | Thanatermesis, i'm going to ask anyway |
| 16:58.09 | Thanatermesis | ok CGA_AFK ... Elive uses diferents parts, diferents licenses... from one part uses DEBIAN, have GPL licencense and not posible to change, from another part enlightenment/EFL uses the BSD license... and not posible to change to GPL or another... Im not the owner of all of this... but Elive have some personal points. for example the Elpanel... I like to distribute FREE Elive... Elpanel are free to distribute but without the source code... |
| 16:58.09 | Thanatermesis | Elive have another parts... scripts etc... the actual scripts are simple GPL... |
| 16:58.54 | CGA_AFK | that is so complicate |
| 16:59.20 | CGA_AFK | why don't you release Elpanel with source? |
| 16:59.34 | Thanatermesis | for one simple reason... |
| 16:59.45 | CGA_AFK | ? |
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| 17:00.39 | CGA_AFK | Thanatermesis, which reason? |
| 17:00.44 | Thanatermesis | Elpanel NOT have any secret... its a simple program with launch a interface in EFL with launch another programs (system administrations for example), the code its writed in C, I have used a SIMPLE base code, Im not coder but I add new launchers.. this is Elpanel... not have any secret |
| 17:01.21 | CGA_AFK | Thanatermesis, so why don't you release it under GPL? |
| 17:01.36 | CGA_AFK | are you afraid someone get some useful thing from it? |
| 17:01.40 | Thanatermesis | the only reason its I don't like to another distros "copy" totally the Elpanel and change the name and have another owner.. Im working very in Elpanel... I like Elpanel and are posible the future most important part of Elive, I don't like to another persons profit of this... |
| 17:02.06 | Thanatermesis | but is free, and any person its OK to use Elpanel... |
| 17:02.14 | CGA_AFK | that is silly |
| 17:02.29 | CGA_AFK | as much as the BSD license |
| 17:02.55 | CGA_AFK | BTW you are the owner |
| 17:03.00 | Thanatermesis | you have looked the interface (actual) of the elpanel ? |
| 17:03.02 | CGA_AFK | so you do whatever you want |
| 17:03.15 | CGA_AFK | nope i'm not on Elive right now |
| 17:03.20 | Thanatermesis | no problem |
| 17:03.23 | Thanatermesis | only look the video |
| 17:03.31 | Thanatermesis | www.elive.xasein.com/downloads/elpanel-3.avi |
| 17:04.09 | CGA_AFK | downloading |
| 17:04.39 | Thanatermesis | this is a important point in Elive... the persons of look this like Elpanel... very persons download in the future Elive because look interessing parts in Elive for example the elpanel... why I have used enlightenment and not KDE or gnome for Elive ? |
| 17:04.43 | Thanatermesis | I don't like to copy another distros... |
| 17:04.54 | Thanatermesis | all distros have the same look... |
| 17:04.58 | CGA_AFK | i agree |
| 17:04.59 | Thanatermesis | interfaces kde or gnome... |
| 17:05.06 | Thanatermesis | I don't like this, i like to are DIFERENT |
| 17:05.16 | CGA_AFK | i understand |
| 17:05.26 | CGA_AFK | but i don't see the point to not share |
| 17:05.42 | Thanatermesis | any person looks elpanel and speak "ooh, what is this, I don't have look any similar program in my life... etc..." |
| 17:05.43 | CGA_AFK | i watch the video wait for me |
| 17:05.49 | CGA_AFK | i watch the video wait for me |
| 17:06.04 | Thanatermesis | this is Elive... diferent... no only the interface, Elive its "another way for use linux", I like this... |
| 17:06.50 | CGA_AFK | i can't watch the video |
| 17:06.59 | Thanatermesis | and I don't like for example the next month's look for example "vector linux" with a Elpanel screenshot... |
| 17:06.59 | CGA_AFK | my players don't support the codec |
| 17:07.20 | Thanatermesis | ok, give me a second and Im recode this with another codec... |
| 17:07.25 | CGA_AFK | k |
| 17:07.27 | CGA_AFK | thx |
| 17:07.38 | Thanatermesis | another example... do you know "Coolcheeze" ? |
| 17:07.45 | CGA_AFK | nope , link? |
| 17:08.33 | Thanatermesis | coolcheze have another enlightenment project distro... its a friend, Im dont know how are good the "arcane project" (from coolcheeze), he working hard in a CD burner writed in the enlightenment libs... |
| 17:09.40 | Thanatermesis | its free, a cdburner in EFL libs... its perfect ! why Im not use this ? ... its posible only my idea... but Im respect coolcheeze, he are the owner of "enflame" (cd burner in EFL), and the distro of coolcheze are the ONLY to have this good feature with a cd burner in EFL... |
| 17:10.38 | Thanatermesis | If im copy and use "enflame" in Elive with a interface with the "elive" words... coolcheeze are happy ? posible... Im don't know :) but not are my style |
| 17:10.42 | Thanatermesis | you understand this ? |
| 17:11.02 | CGA_AFK | that is complete nonsese, why make free software and not share? do you think that enflame shouldn't be used just because you didnm't code it? |
| 17:11.23 | Thanatermesis | "it is only my form to think" (bot translator) (es solo mi forma de pensar)= |
| 17:11.52 | rl | CGA_AFK, try to download with wget, if your browser dont suport de |
| 17:12.01 | CGA_AFK | i see but i don't agree with you sorry. (btw i might have mistaken something since your engrish is not so clear) |
| 17:12.12 | CGA_AFK | rl, what? |
| 17:12.22 | rl | CGA_AFK, try to download the video with wget |
| 17:12.43 | CGA_AFK | rl, i have dl the video already , it's a problem of codecs |
| 17:13.30 | rl | are you running elive? CGA_AFK |
| 17:13.42 | Thanatermesis | <CGA_AFK> that is complete nonsese, why make free software and not share? do you think that enflame shouldn't be used just because you didnm't code it? |
| 17:15.42 | Thanatermesis | yes... for the "normal programs" yes... but exist some programs to are "unique"... only arcane gives the "enflame" program... good, imagine you are the owner of arcane... and are happy with your work and with the enflame... but Im the owner of Elive, and I use your enflame, and change the interface with "elive" words... and the persons download Elive for look enflame but not download arcane.. you happy ? |
| 17:16.26 | rl | i´m tired to running elive on livecd, going to install it |
| 17:19.25 | reliver | oh, super interesting debate here, CGA_AFK and Thanatermesis. |
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| 17:26.12 | reliver | CGA_AFK, the VLC video player from Paris can do it for you. |
| 17:27.29 | reliver | looks like they are in private session now... :-( |
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| 17:37.10 | cocozz | is there any place to get envision and elapse themes ? |
| 17:37.51 | Thanatermesis | look the package instalation |
| 17:37.54 | Thanatermesis | dpkg -L envision |
| 17:38.02 | Thanatermesis | dpkg -L envision | grep edj |
| 17:38.04 | Thanatermesis | dpkg -L envision | grep eet |
| 17:38.11 | Thanatermesis | this is the posible themes |
| 17:38.25 | Thanatermesis | but from my memory... don't exists |
| 17:38.28 | Thanatermesis | another themes |
| 17:40.20 | cocozz | ;-( |
| 17:40.48 | cocozz | I dont see elapse with a white wallpaper x-D |
| 17:41.23 | Thanatermesis | white wallpaper ? |
| 17:41.50 | Thanatermesis | you speak for the transition to the white with you move the mouse ? |
| 17:42.19 | cocozz | er... |
| 17:42.46 | cocozz | es decir, no veo la hora de elapse si pongo un wallpaper blanco porque la fuente de elapse es ... blanca |
| 17:43.57 | TuxMeister | ah, cocozz ya... |
| 17:44.33 | TuxMeister | cocozz, y me parece que ya empaquetado no se puede cambiar... elapse es bastante viejo, y no se si va con edje |
| 17:44.38 | cocozz | y dudo que haya ya una utilidad para modificar los .edj de este programilla |
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| 17:45.31 | TuxMeister | cocozz, alli esta el problema |
| 17:45.55 | Thanatermesis | si, es un edje :)= |
| 17:45.57 | TuxMeister | a mi como me gustan los fondos oscuritos pos cuando era 16ero (xD) pues no problem |
| 17:46.05 | TuxMeister | ah, Thanatermesis si??? |
| 17:46.11 | Thanatermesis | si |
| 17:46.12 | cocozz | sip lo es |
| 17:46.15 | Thanatermesis | /usr/share/elapse/themes/elapse.edj |
| 17:46.17 | TuxMeister | pues que bien que lo hayan portado tambien... |
| 17:46.24 | cocozz | si lo habro con edge me habre el theme en sí |
| 17:46.37 | cocozz | como hago para poder desempaquetar/modificar ... |
| 17:46.52 | TuxMeister | ehm |
| 17:47.02 | TuxMeister | edje_decc *edj |
| 17:47.14 | TuxMeister | vaya, aun me acuerdo xDDDD |
| 17:47.33 | cocozz | xD |
| 17:47.58 | TuxMeister | es que llevo mucho tiempo sin tocar y ara me estoy poniendo las pilas otra vez |
| 17:48.20 | cocozz | *** CAUTION ***Please check the build script for anything malicious before running it! |
| 17:48.37 | cocozz | ni que hubieran puesto la rana gustavo con una arma nuclear dentro |
| 17:48.51 | Thanatermesis | si claro... desempaquetaras podras... pero tendras que modificar el codigo :) |
| 17:49.12 | cocozz | (ah porque ya me lo ha desempaquetado xDDD) |
| 17:49.20 | TuxMeister | joas joas... pero tranki que con razon lo ponen xD el mismo tema default de e17 no descompila bien...bueno, almenos antes, ara nuse |
| 17:51.43 | CGA | i'm back |
| 17:52.24 | CGA | so Thanatermesis , i can't receive files over IRC i have a NAT problem |
| 17:52.33 | CGA | but thx for sending me |
| 17:53.50 | CGA | maybe you can mail me the file |
| 17:54.08 | CGA | anyway, you said: yes... for the "normal programs" yes... but exist some programs to are "unique"... only arcane gives the "enflame" program... good, imagine you are the owner of arcane... and are happy with your work and with the enflame... but Im the owner of Elive, and I use your enflame, and change the interface with "elive" words... and the persons download Elive for look enflame but not download arcane.. you happy ? |
| 17:55.03 | CGA | Thanatermesis, first of all if i'm going to write an app like enflame the first thing i do is to tell the world "hey here it goes the burning app for E17" take it |
| 17:55.06 | cocozz | por ahora de transparencias en E17 nanai de nanai no ? |
| 17:55.29 | CGA | Thanatermesis, i wouldn't code an application just for my distro |
| 17:55.30 | TuxMeister | cocozz, si tienes xorg si |
| 17:55.51 | cocozz | con ati drivers tambien ? |
| 17:55.55 | TuxMeister | cocozz, y tambien rula pseutransparencia para algunos programas como un terminal, o el gkrellm y cosas asi |
| 17:57.31 | TuxMeister | BRBR |
| 17:57.33 | cocozz | si, es lo que uso con Eterm ahora mismo |
| 17:59.52 | CGA | Thanatermesis, BTW is this ? -->> http://www.arcanelinux.org/index.php |
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| 18:01.09 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es first of all if i'm going to write an app like enflame the first thing i do is to tell the world "hey here it goes the burning app for E17" take it |
| 18:01.51 | CGA | what i ment is : why write a SW just for one distro? Elpanel is differente from enflame |
| 18:02.03 | Thanatermesis | yes, arcanelinux.org... |
| 18:02.06 | CGA | elpanel is ok if you write only for elive but noty the case of enflame |
| 18:02.32 | CGA | k arcanelinux, i'll try it |
| 18:03.15 | Thanatermesis | yes... and elpanel its a program for work in the Elive system... manage the Elive system... its based in debian but NO are the same... and uses special things to exist ONLY in Elive distro... |
| 18:03.44 | Thanatermesis | but why include the source ? what person needs this ? |
| 18:03.45 | CGA | i agree with you that Elpanel is only for elive because is a config tool |
| 18:04.07 | CGA | someone could be interested in developing a similar tool for other distro |
| 18:04.13 | reliver | CGA may i ask you are you in student-life or in family-life ? |
| 18:04.28 | CGA | but i don't want to speak about it , first i wanna see it |
| 18:04.39 | CGA | reliver, what you mean? |
| 18:05.19 | CGA | Thanatermesis, can you send me the elpanel video to my mail? |
| 18:05.46 | reliver | are you working just for yourself or do you work for a family or something, do you have to work for your living, do you code just in your free time, theses indiscrete questions ... |
| 18:05.54 | Thanatermesis | x en es someone could be interested in developing a similar tool for other distro but i don't want to speak about it , first i wanna see it |
| 18:05.58 | Thanatermesis | ~x en es someone could be interested in developing a similar tool for other distro but i don't want to speak about it , first i wanna see it |
| 18:06.18 | Thanatermesis | CGA notice with the link of elpanel received ? |
| 18:07.10 | CGA | reliver, i actually don't have a jobsince May but i'm going to work soon, i'm single and live with my family and i'm passioned with IT so i'm going to learn C and code pretty soon -- the student thing: i'm self taught |
| 18:07.21 | CGA | Thanatermesis, i can't receive file from IRC i'm behind a NAT |
| 18:07.33 | Thanatermesis | >CGA< http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/tmp/elpanel-3.avi |
| 18:07.44 | reliver | excellent, CGA, congratulations. |
| 18:07.44 | CGA | is the new codec one? |
| 18:07.47 | Thanatermesis | xvid |
| 18:07.59 | CGA | Thanatermesis, great |
| 18:08.22 | CGA | reliver, thx :P |
| 18:08.41 | reliver | are you in the US, CGA ? |
| 18:08.44 | CGA | italy |
| 18:08.50 | CGA | milan |
| 18:08.51 | reliver | ah, great, where ? |
| 18:08.53 | CGA | milan |
| 18:08.55 | reliver | ok. |
| 18:09.03 | CGA | well close to it not really milan |
| 18:09.05 | reliver | bad city, right ? |
| 18:09.09 | CGA | yep |
| 18:09.13 | reliver | ah, better :-) |
| 18:09.30 | CGA | but i start tyo enjoy it more since i discovered a couple of new situations |
| 18:09.45 | reliver | situations ? locations ? |
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| 18:10.28 | Thanatermesis | in any case CGA ... the ask is the same... for example, imagine you a "revolutionary program"... similar to VMWARE... its very powerfull, and Im PANTENT THIS ! its baad... vmware its good, powerfull, do you like ? buy it, yes, its the result of a big and pretty work, I apreciate this... but the open software comunity don't have the source code, dont posible to use or modify for better use... this is bad, yes... but what is Elpanel ? its a |
| 18:10.28 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.39 | CGA | i watched the video and i didn't understand what is elpanel, can you explain? |
| 18:12.42 | cocozz | (ps:use qemu ;-P) |
| 18:13.18 | CGA | cocozz, you right -- there are many good free software app out there |
| 18:15.48 | CGA | Thanatermesis, let's say elpanel is pretty elive exclusive ok? but if you release the sources someone could even partecipate to it. that's one point -- beside you don't have to fear someone take it away from you since it is only for EFL based distros - the maximum it could happen is that someone use it for other E17 distro and give you the credits and glory -- what's bad about that? |
| 18:16.29 | Thanatermesis | CGA the video of you have looked... its only the "tests" of elpanel... elpanel not are finished, only in construction.. the words are "test words" and the icons are "temporal icons" :) |
| 18:17.48 | CGA | ok |
| 18:17.57 | CGA | is it a panel to access what? |
| 18:18.07 | CGA | can you explain to me please? |
| 18:18.15 | cocozz | any waiy to easly convert all the *.jpg wallpapers of a folder to .edj? |
| 18:18.25 | reliver | it is like Yast for Suse, CGA |
| 18:18.26 | cocozz | im a noob in bash programming |
| 18:18.54 | CGA | reliver, thx now i can comparate it to something |
| 18:19.19 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es is it a panel to access what? can you explain to me please? thx now i can comparate it to something |
| 18:19.34 | CGA | reliver, but YaST it is an app installer too -- is elpanel going to be ? |
| 18:19.49 | Thanatermesis | elpanel ? for manage the Elive system and the desktop... all in one, similar to the KDE control center etc... |
| 18:19.59 | CGA | Thanatermesis, good thing |
| 18:20.05 | CGA | very good project |
| 18:20.12 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 18:20.37 | CGA | Thanatermesis, BTW do you know that a control center is beeing developed for E17? |
| 18:21.19 | reliver | oh, great, CGA. |
| 18:21.29 | CGA | Thanatermesis, i think that you should open the source and see if it can become the control center of E17 |
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| 18:22.03 | CGA | i don't see the point of developing a control center just for one distro when you can develop it for the whole E project |
| 18:22.15 | CGA | that's my point |
| 18:24.05 | CGA | Thanatermesis, BTW i'm reading on enflame website to see what's fuzz about |
| 18:24.24 | Thanatermesis | x en es BTW do you know that a control center is beeing developed for E17? |
| 18:24.28 | Thanatermesis | ~x en es BTW do you know that a control center is beeing developed for E17? |
| 18:24.40 | Thanatermesis | ~x en es i think that you should open the source and see if it can become the control center of E17 |
| 18:25.08 | Thanatermesis | CGA yes... same to a e17 switcher... but im not posible to wait this for release the next elive... if not exist, I need to make a hack :) |
| 18:25.39 | CGA | Thanatermesis, BTW enflame is GPL and it is NOT only for arcanelinux -- so youcan use it in elive |
| 18:26.00 | reliver | yes, CGA, it seems to me like the enlightenment people tend never to actually finish something, |
| 18:26.15 | CGA | reliver, that's a bad assumption :P |
| 18:26.18 | reliver | it is more one experiment after the other after the other ... :-) |
| 18:26.35 | CGA | it might be that there are so few devs |
| 18:26.42 | reliver | did you know they already think about e18 and e16 is still not ready ? |
| 18:26.48 | CGA | nope |
| 18:26.57 | Thanatermesis | not exactly CGA ... a future panel of control for e17 in what are writed ? in C, what is Elpanel ? a simple "launcher panel"... im only use bash scripts or launch commands/programs... not are any secret, Im don't coder, Im use the same ways to any medium level user |
| 18:27.23 | CGA | too much babelfish sorry :P |
| 18:27.25 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es i'm reading on enflame website to see what's fuzz about |
| 18:28.11 | CGA | Thanatermesis, can you rewrite you last question? pleae |
| 18:28.25 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es it seems to me like the enlightenment people tend never to actually finish something, |
| 18:28.53 | reliver | :-) |
| 18:29.18 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es did you know they already think about e18 and e16 is still not ready ? |
| 18:29.37 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es it seems to me like the enlightenment people tend never to actually finish something, |
| 18:29.57 | Thanatermesis | CGA what question ? |
| 18:30.47 | CGA | Thanatermesis not exactly CGA ... a future panel of control for e17 in what are writed ? in C, what is Elpanel ? a simple "launcher panel"... im only use bash scripts or launch commands/programs... not are any secret, Im don't coder, Im use the same ways to any medium level user |
| 18:31.38 | reliver | i can translate better then apt, if you ask me ... |
| 18:31.57 | CGA | reliver, please do :P |
| 18:32.15 | reliver | sure, whatever you throw at me :-) |
| 18:32.30 | CGA | next lines then |
| 18:32.32 | reliver | but it seems to me the problem you are discussing lies deeper, possible ? |
| 18:32.56 | CGA | where? who? :P |
| 18:33.24 | reliver | in fears, CGA. |
| 18:33.29 | CGA | on my hand is all about licensing "problem" |
| 18:33.44 | reliver | it goes beyond licensing ... |
| 18:33.49 | CGA | true |
| 18:33.54 | reliver | :-) |
| 18:34.05 | CGA | it's philosophy and philantropy |
| 18:34.25 | CGA | and a matter of ideals too |
| 18:34.31 | reliver | yes. |
| 18:34.46 | Thanatermesis | I speak, Elpanel not are a sophisticated C program CGA ... not have any secret, its only a "launcher panel" :) |
| 18:34.56 | reliver | did you know that i know very few persons as idealistic as Thanatermesis, CGA ? |
| 18:35.08 | Thanatermesis | you know "engage-manager" ? (for engage in e16)... its one example of what posible launch elpanel.. |
| 18:35.35 | CGA | Thanatermesis, ok -- BUT before you said tha it was going to be Kontrol PANEL OF e17 -- that's more of simple scripts |
| 18:35.57 | pr0t0cod7 | elpanel is only edje code for now, easy stuff |
| 18:36.14 | CGA | reliver, no i didn't -- btw he's ok -- at least you can argue with no problems |
| 18:36.19 | Thanatermesis | CGA not exactly... for example launch "enlightenment_remote" |
| 18:36.26 | Thanatermesis | or "eesh" in e16 ;) |
| 18:36.40 | Thanatermesis | you have looked the script for download non-free wallpapers in e16 ? |
| 18:36.42 | Thanatermesis | make a look |
| 18:36.51 | CGA | next time i run elive |
| 18:37.00 | CGA | is elpanel in it? |
| 18:37.12 | Thanatermesis | this minimize your window automatically, and when are finished, maximize it... after, show you the background configurator panel of e16 for change it.... |
| 18:37.16 | pr0t0cod7 | <reliver> did you know they already think about e18 and e16 is still not ready ? <-- e16 not ready for what? |
| 18:37.19 | pr0t0cod7 | :) |
| 18:37.22 | Thanatermesis | its all using a bash script and "eesh" :) |
| 18:37.36 | reliver | for simple users, pr0t0cod7. |
| 18:37.48 | pr0t0cod7 | hmm it is |
| 18:38.04 | Thanatermesis | no CGA .. elpanel its in construction, not are finished and not exist in this moments a "pre" version... only exist the edje interface, no more :) |
| 18:38.07 | CGA | not really pr0t0cod7 |
| 18:38.07 | pr0t0cod7 | it got menus to configure all kind of things |
| 18:38.19 | reliver | well, not according to what shadoi said here yesterday ... |
| 18:38.22 | pr0t0cod7 | which e17 have not yet |
| 18:38.24 | Thanatermesis | I not have any problem with e16... |
| 18:38.26 | CGA | Thanatermesis, ok Thanatermesis i'll look when it will be ready |
| 18:39.01 | reliver | a fag ? |
| 18:39.11 | reliver | what's a fag here, CGA ? |
| 18:39.30 | CGA | cigarette |
| 18:40.03 | reliver | ah, "it's all about taste" ... >;?) |
| 18:40.24 | CGA | *puff* |
| 18:40.30 | pr0t0cod7 | well, depends if "simple users" needs a "windows like" interface..then no matter if its e16/17/18 it will never be ready... |
| 18:40.50 | pr0t0cod7 | simple users needs to rethink their desktop too |
| 18:40.56 | reliver | why pr0t0cod7, why not make it ready for that ? |
| 18:41.11 | Thanatermesis | e16 in Elive not are easy to use for the final users? :( |
| 18:41.17 | reliver | ah, you want to reeducate them ? |
| 18:41.22 | pr0t0cod7 | sure |
| 18:41.28 | pr0t0cod7 | i think thats the point |
| 18:41.32 | CGA | E 17 is in somehow simpler than E16 to config , isn't it? |
| 18:41.37 | reliver | no, Thanatermesis, not at the moment. |
| 18:41.40 | CGA | pr0t0cod7, i agree on re-education |
| 18:43.19 | reliver | if it was ready they would flood this channel with support questions right now as we speak ... |
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| 18:44.31 | pr0t0cod7 | when the e17 theming thing will have improved, it will be possible to make e17 look like a kde/gnome simple desktop with all the eye candy of e17 |
| 18:44.47 | pr0t0cod7 | if thats some users want |
| 18:44.57 | reliver | good. |
| 18:45.29 | cocozzz | is it possible to put one different wallpaper for each virtual desktop on e17 ? |
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| 18:47.57 | Thanatermesis | reliver "users questions" is for all the life... if not are "how to work e16" is "how to make a theme in e16" ? etc... |
| 18:52.24 | CGA | that's why docs and FAQ are compiled :P |
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| 19:04.49 | Thanatermesis | heh, yes |
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| 19:39.15 | Thanatermesis | mariodebian los paquetes amule y amule-utils han superado la prueba de make-deb check satisfactoriamente :) |
| 19:42.21 | mariodebian | Thana: ok |
| 19:43.00 | Thanatermesis | voy a echar un vistazo a ver que mas hay interesante por aqui... :) |
| 19:43.27 | mariodebian | hay aplicaciones de musica muy buenas |
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| 19:43.37 | mariodebian | mixxx es para deejays |
| 19:43.48 | mariodebian | son 2 pletinas... con ajuste de velocidad |
| 19:43.48 | Thanatermesis | en ese dir, no ? acabo de añadirlo al sources.list para hacer apt-cache show... |
| 19:44.01 | Thanatermesis | si. lo conozco... aunque un poco feo (hace 2 meses cuando lo vi) |
| 19:44.03 | mariodebian | pira el Packages.gz desde el navegador |
| 19:44.06 | mariodebian | acabas antes |
| 19:44.11 | Thanatermesis | aparte dicen que no funciona de lo mas fino... nose |
| 19:44.20 | Thanatermesis | si.. tambien xD |
| 19:44.30 | CGA | Thanatermesis, i found an old picture of the control panel -->> http://aje.codewordt.co.uk/Gallery/E_Stuff/_previews/e_config_panel.png.html && i think you should join the dev and include the elpanel features in it --why do two differetn projects for the same thing? |
| 19:44.34 | mariodebian | yo he pinchado una sessioncita de 20 minutos y no va mal hay que cambiar el skin por defecto |
| 19:45.04 | CGA | Thanatermesis, ask in #edevelop who's the project leader |
| 19:45.06 | sinplomo | mariodebian, no entiendo bien lo que es italc ? |
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| 19:45.12 | sinplomo | es para tomar el control remoto de otro pc |
| 19:45.28 | Thanatermesis | CGA principally because the desktop control in elpanel its only the 20-30 % of the functions of Elpanel... all the rest is the system management...ç |
| 19:45.37 | sinplomo | pero ese pc tiene que tener algun demonio corriendo o algo asi no ? |
| 19:46.10 | Thanatermesis | el skin por defecto mariodebian ? mmmh, tienes algun shot ? :) yo tambien lo probé y no me iba mal... pero oi 2 o 3 personas que no decian lo mismo... creo que una de ellas era sinplomo xD |
| 19:46.12 | CGA | Thanatermesis, ok |
| 19:47.40 | Thanatermesis | oh CGA ... yes, this is included in the e17 actually, I have looked this yesterday... its a simple launcher of the actual configurators (for this moments) |
| 19:47.50 | CGA | ok |
| 19:48.00 | Thanatermesis | in any case, this is a panel launcher (actually), same to Elpanel :) |
| 19:48.15 | CGA | ok |
| 19:48.43 | rl | es posible instalar elive 0.3 con dual boot? es decir, intente instalar elive eliminando unas particiones que tenia en disco y el programa no me permitio hacer eso >s |
| 19:50.08 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 19:50.11 | Thanatermesis | no acabo de entender rl .... |
| 19:50.27 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, el skin traditional de mixx mola :) |
| 19:50.41 | Thanatermesis | no lo e visto... |
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| 19:51.17 | Thanatermesis | 1.4.2 version que hay actualmente en Elive... |
| 19:51.21 | Thanatermesis | cuala es la que tienes ahora sinplomo ? |
| 19:51.42 | rl | es decir, tengo un disco con Winxp y debian, uba a instalar elive en la particion de debian, al tratar de hacer algo como eliminar esa particion, no me permitia hacerlo |
| 19:51.47 | mariodebian | estoy subiendo la captura... |
| 19:52.17 | mariodebian | http://idefix.eup.uva.es/paquetes/mixx.png |
| 19:53.12 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, aqui tienes un tutorial |
| 19:53.13 | sinplomo | http://threadbox.net/index.php/archives/2005/08/11/mixxx-tutorial |
| 19:53.15 | sinplomo | xD |
| 19:54.27 | mariodebian | Thanatermesis: viste la captura? |
| 19:55.14 | Thanatermesis | rl quizas necesites reiniciar despues de hacer cambios de particionamiento de disco antes de poder escribir en el |
| 19:55.39 | Thanatermesis | linda mariodebian ! :) |
| 19:55.43 | Thanatermesis | incluido el skin por defecto ? |
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| 19:56.05 | mariodebian | si esa captura la acabo de hacer ahora en plan rápido con 2 temitas |
| 19:56.36 | rl | ni siquiera escribia, ni hacia cambios, si es por mi borro el disco entero, pero esa laptop no es mia |
| 19:57.26 | leoperd | $B$_$J$5$s!!$O!!$K$[$s$4!!$r!!$O$J$7$^$9!!$+!)(B |
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| 19:57.32 | sinplomo | leoperd, O_o |
| 19:57.45 | leoperd | japanese |
| 19:57.51 | leoperd | anyone speak it? |
| 19:57.54 | sinplomo | utf-8 ? |
| 19:58.02 | leoperd | speak type whichever |
| 19:58.07 | leoperd | nm ill use english |
| 19:58.19 | leoperd | probably prefered by most in here atm, anyway |
| 19:58.21 | leoperd | ;] |
| 19:59.07 | leoperd | i am curious of progress on elive |
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| 20:01.23 | leoperd | mm |
| 20:01.33 | leoperd | heehee |
| 20:01.55 | Thanatermesis | rl mmmh, prueba de actualizar update y instalar "gparted" |
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| 20:03.57 | rl | Thanatermesis gracias, lo probare |
| 20:04.15 | CGA | Thanatermesis, just one dumb questi0n, why don't you use the E config panel for config (like Kontrol panel) and Elpanl as a Elive system wide config ? |
| 20:04.35 | Thanatermesis | because I like to include all in one |
| 20:04.47 | Thanatermesis | another important point... Elive don't works same to a debian ... |
| 20:05.10 | Thanatermesis | I have my way to configure/manage the desktop... |
| 20:05.17 | CGA | good for all in one -- what about not working like debian? |
| 20:05.20 | Thanatermesis | for example, the engage-standalone (e16), its diferent |
| 20:05.37 | Thanatermesis | I have maked the "engage-manager" for add, modify or delete icons in this |
| 20:06.03 | CGA | in e16? |
| 20:06.30 | leoperd | frankly i think elive should be s/e and let the end user config their choice of setup |
| 20:06.40 | leoperd | which it is so far, in a way |
| 20:06.47 | Thanatermesis | debian its good, I have based Elive in debian, but If I look a posibility of work better, I add this in Elive, and have this point better than debian... or for example Elive are the only distro (from my memory), to have "elive-skel"... for manage the users configurations |
| 20:06.48 | CGA | s/e? |
| 20:06.56 | leoperd | Simple and Efficient |
| 20:06.58 | CGA | k |
| 20:07.01 | leoperd | n/b |
| 20:07.04 | leoperd | No Bullshit |
| 20:07.06 | leoperd | ;] |
| 20:07.08 | CGA | KISS |
| 20:07.14 | leoperd | my ass? |
| 20:07.16 | Thanatermesis | CGA http://thana.no-ip.org/shots/engage-manager.jpg |
| 20:07.22 | CGA | keep it simple stujpid |
| 20:07.26 | leoperd | nah |
| 20:07.29 | leoperd | not stupid at all |
| 20:07.32 | sinplomo | engage-manager poweeeer :) |
| 20:07.33 | leoperd | infact just the opposite |
| 20:07.38 | leoperd | make it like gentoo |
| 20:07.38 | CGA | that's what KISS mean |
| 20:07.42 | leoperd | where one must learn to make work |
| 20:07.46 | leoperd | i know |
| 20:07.50 | CGA | k |
| 20:08.32 | leoperd | but thanatermesis nad the group might have other ideals and prospects for elive |
| 20:08.41 | leoperd | very good undertaking ill say, tho |
| 20:08.52 | CGA | Thanatermesis, i saw it , it's good |
| 20:11.02 | Thanatermesis | elpanel is only a "way to manage", a panel launcher... a interface, a user-friendly... |
| 20:11.24 | Thanatermesis | not is good for use "standard" for all distros... |
| 20:11.36 | CGA | ok |
| 20:11.57 | Thanatermesis | and E developers codes a good applications, Im only hack ways to manage the system easy the final user :) |
| 20:12.37 | CGA | fair enough but i still think that you should releae it with the source :P |
| 20:14.59 | leoperd | ill help port it to bsd |
| 20:15.00 | elive-bot | leoperd: Publicos: |
| 20:15.00 | elive-bot | leoperd: help, date <ciudad>, rae <palabra>, traducir <way> <frase>, lastseen <nick>, lasturl, show <package> |
| 20:15.00 | elive-bot | leoperd: Privados: |
| 20:15.00 | elive-bot | leoperd: startlog [canal], endlog, autorizar <nick>, denegar <nick>, join <canal>, recordar <regexp> <frase>, part <canal> |
| 20:15.08 | leoperd | O_o |
| 20:15.26 | leoperd | no hable espanol....in a while anyway |
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| 20:18.15 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 20:18.30 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es ill help port it to bsd |
| 20:18.50 | Thanatermesis | \O_O/ |
| 20:19.00 | Thanatermesis | apt you are drunk ? |
| 20:19.04 | apt | Thanatermesis: I think you lost me on that one |
| 20:19.06 | leoperd | apparently so |
| 20:19.10 | leoperd | even i understood that |
| 20:19.17 | leoperd | and i dont habla espanol |
| 20:19.20 | Thanatermesis | apt x es en puerto enfermo de la ayuda él al DEB |
| 20:19.26 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 20:19.35 | leoperd | hehe |
| 20:19.42 | Thanatermesis | leoperd try the same line with another words ;) |
| 20:19.49 | Thanatermesis | use "tarzanian english" :) |
| 20:19.50 | CGA | babelfish empire is rising |
| 20:19.57 | CGA | lol |
| 20:20.08 | leoperd | i wasnt trying to translt in the first place :P |
| 20:20.14 | CGA | i still remembre felix saying that funny thing |
| 20:23.48 | leoperd | hm i speak shitty english |
| 20:24.02 | leoperd | but im from amerika |
| 20:24.03 | leoperd | so |
| 20:24.04 | leoperd | shrug |
| 20:28.51 | sinplomo | mariodebian, ping |
| 20:34.26 | Thanatermesis | mariodebian |
| 20:34.30 | Thanatermesis | Package: wxgtk |
| 20:34.34 | Thanatermesis | Description: <insert up to 60 chars description> |
| 20:34.35 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:34.35 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 20:36.26 | sinplomo | mariodebian, y el advancedmenu no incluye los configuradores esos |
| 20:37.38 | Thanatermesis | advancedmenu =? |
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| 20:40.44 | mariodebian | son para el mame |
| 20:40.54 | mariodebian | la verdad es que no les he conseguido hacer funcionar |
| 20:40.59 | mariodebian | pero deben ser la repera |
| 20:41.54 | Thanatermesis | mariodebian y el paquete control-center-gui por lo visto solo te instala un binario (no encuentra por ejemplo un archivo importante para lanzarlo ) |
| 20:42.16 | sinplomo | mariodebian, yo he empaquetado un emulador de nintendo 64 |
| 20:42.21 | sinplomo | para linux por si te interesa |
| 20:42.37 | sinplomo | deb http://sinplomo.no-ip.org/debian ./ :) |
| 20:42.52 | mariodebian | toy probando el mixxx con un grabador y jack |
| 20:42.58 | mariodebian | mi portatil está a punto de rebentar |
| 20:43.10 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 20:43.10 | mariodebian | timemachine ... |
| 20:43.31 | Thanatermesis | mariodebian dime, el skin ese wapo viene por defecto ? me molaria incluir el mixxx... con ESE skin :) |
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| 20:46.26 | eshep | good mornin everybody |
| 20:47.30 | Thanatermesis | yup eshep |
| 20:47.43 | Thanatermesis | muy bueno el qemu-launcher mariodebian ... me lo apunto ;) |
| 20:47.44 | Thanatermesis | '--==(/var/cache/apt/archives)==--> re-este main qemu-launcher_1.3-2_i386.deb |
| 20:49.07 | eshep | Thanatermesis, the upade worked, thanks. but now my sound is broke :/ |
| 20:49.21 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 20:49.27 | Thanatermesis | what problems with sound ? |
| 20:49.39 | eshep | no sound |
| 20:49.53 | eshep | so...no prolem? |
| 20:49.57 | felix | eshep: that's good... you don't have problems... |
| 20:50.08 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 20:50.08 | eshep | right :) |
| 20:50.25 | felix | eshep: turn on the radio |
| 20:50.26 | Thanatermesis | eshep before days... after reboot, your sound works good ? |
| 20:50.32 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 20:50.34 | felix | eshep: you'll have sound |
| 20:50.43 | CGA | ciao felix |
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| 20:50.50 | felix | CGA: hola! |
| 20:51.02 | Anarien | buenas! |
| 20:51.04 | felix | Elive_user: welcome to this nightmare Anarien ! |
| 20:51.11 | Thanatermesis | buenas Anarien |
| 20:51.12 | eshep | Thanatermesis, ive never had a problem before |
| 20:51.18 | Thanatermesis | que mala hostia felix xD |
| 20:51.28 | felix | rae hostia |
| 20:51.29 | felix | rae ostia |
| 20:51.32 | Thanatermesis | uf |
| 20:51.35 | felix | lala |
| 20:51.38 | Thanatermesis | eshep try "alsaconf" |
| 20:51.50 | eshep | sure |
| 20:51.50 | elive-bot | felix: |
| 20:51.51 | elive-bot | felix: hostia. |
| 20:51.51 | elive-bot | felix: (Del lat. hostia). |
| 20:51.51 | elive-bot | felix: 1. f. Hoja redonda y delgada de pan acimo, que se consagra |
| 20:51.51 | elive-bot | felix: en la misa y con la que se comulga. |
| 20:51.51 | elive-bot | felix: 2. f. Cosa que se ofrece en sacrificio. |
| 20:51.55 | elive-bot | felix: 3. f. vulg. malson. Golpe, trastazo, bofetada. |
| 20:51.57 | felix | mirá vos |
| 20:52.09 | felix | no sabía que era con hache |
| 20:52.11 | elive-bot | felix: |
| 20:52.11 | elive-bot | felix: ostia. |
| 20:52.11 | elive-bot | felix: (Del lat. ostrea). |
| 20:52.11 | elive-bot | felix: 1. f. [1]ostra. |
| 20:52.11 | elive-bot | felix: Real Academia Espanola (c) Todos los derechos reservados References Visible links |
| 20:52.16 | elive-bot | felix: 1. http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/SrvltObtenerHtml?TIPO_HTML=2&LEMA=ostra&SUPIND=0&CAREXT=10000&NEDIC=No |
| 20:52.20 | felix | jojo |
| 20:52.24 | felix | y eso? |
| 20:52.28 | Thanatermesis | lo tuyo son los afrodisiacos xD |
| 20:52.38 | eshep | Thanatermesis, -bash: alsaconf: command not found |
| 20:52.48 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 20:52.54 | Thanatermesis | you have installed "udev" eshep ? |
| 20:53.00 | Anarien | estos de la rae no tienen npi de como se habla! xD |
| 20:53.09 | Anarien | mira que no saber lo que es ostia...! |
| 20:53.16 | eshep | Thanatermesis, not that i know of |
| 20:53.33 | Anarien | a cualquier cosa le llaman ostra! xD |
| 20:54.31 | Thanatermesis | eshep dpkg -l | grep udev |
| 20:54.35 | Thanatermesis | eshep dpkg -l | grep alsa-utils |
| 20:54.39 | Thanatermesis | what are installed ? |
| 20:55.01 | eshep | Thanatermesis, yes udev is installed: 0.070-2 |
| 20:55.24 | Thanatermesis | udev has deleted alsaconf/alsa-utils |
| 20:55.27 | Thanatermesis | you have installed udev ? |
| 20:55.39 | Thanatermesis | fucking udev... |
| 20:55.44 | eshep | alsa-utils: 1.0.9a-4 |
| 20:55.46 | Thanatermesis | mira sinplomo , udev dando por culo de nuevo... |
| 20:55.50 | Thanatermesis | como siempre vamos |
| 20:55.52 | Anarien | fucking fucking di que si!! |
| 20:55.57 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 20:56.09 | eshep | Thanatermesis, i didnt ask for udev :) |
| 20:56.23 | Thanatermesis | eshep but udev has deleted your alsaconf |
| 20:56.27 | Thanatermesis | you have installed udev ? |
| 20:56.53 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, te ha dicho que si antes... |
| 20:57.00 | Thanatermesis | ah |
| 20:57.08 | Thanatermesis | yes eshep ... the problem is udev :) |
| 20:57.18 | Anarien | <eshep> Thanatermesis, yes udev is installed: 0.070-2 <-- :) |
| 20:57.30 | Thanatermesis | udev fucking me, fucking you, and fucking all people in the way :) |
| 20:57.42 | Anarien | y eso que yo no se ingles eh!!, voy prosperando... XD |
| 20:57.52 | Thanatermesis | Anarien pero... le preguntaba si EL lo a instalado... o se le instalo solo |
| 20:58.00 | Anarien | ah vale |
| 20:58.02 | eshep | apt-get remove udev && apt-get remove alsa-utils && apt-get install alsa-utils ? |
| 20:58.15 | Thanatermesis | eshep you have installed udev or udev is installed automatically ? |
| 20:58.18 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, bueno, alli ya no afino tanto... :) |
| 20:58.36 | Anarien | digo... ahi |
| 20:58.51 | eshep | Thanatermesis, i did not install it so... |
| 20:59.19 | CGA | bueno , me voi a dormir |
| 20:59.27 | CGA | buenas noches hombres |
| 20:59.42 | Thanatermesis | Anarien a ti no te las desean las buenas noches xD |
| 20:59.48 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, va a su bola!!, erre que erre que no tiene instalado el sonido.. xD |
| 21:00.17 | Anarien | ya veo yá, yo estoy marginada! xD |
| 21:00.21 | Thanatermesis | eshep mmmh, you have installed another kernel ? you know what are posible to "provocation" for install udev ? |
| 21:00.46 | Thanatermesis | xD Anarien |
| 21:01.10 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, me pasa en muchos canales, sobre todo de linux (que son en los que suelo estar) |
| 21:01.22 | Anarien | ya me voy acostumbrando... |
| 21:01.25 | Anarien | XDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 21:01.57 | Thanatermesis | xd |
| 21:02.06 | Anarien | a ver si las chicas se animan a usar linux, no saben lo que se pierden! |
| 21:02.13 | eshep | Thanatermesis, the only thing i did between sound and no sound was fix the xdm problem |
| 21:03.05 | Thanatermesis | Anarien ale, a llevar una camiseta de "linux girls" por la calle ;) |
| 21:03.26 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es the only thing i did between sound and no sound was fix the xdm problem |
| 21:03.50 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, its strange to you have udev installed... |
| 21:03.56 | Thanatermesis | yes, install "alsa-utils" |
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| 21:09.06 | sinplomo | apt, x en es tired |
| 21:09.14 | eshep | Thanatermesis, ok, sound works now. whew :) |
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| 21:32.40 | reliver | apt, x en es sinplomo sleep ? |
| 21:33.28 | sinplomo | no |
| 21:33.58 | sinplomo | reliver, ping |
| 21:34.49 | reliver | hello, sinplomo :-) |
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| 21:34.58 | sinplomo | hi reliver |
| 21:35.10 | gorka | hi all |
| 21:35.45 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh, ese nick me suena |
| 21:36.25 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh... ya no me suena tanto... |
| 21:36.33 | Gorku | tengo un problemilla con la resolucion en elive, alguien me echa un cable? |
| 21:36.58 | sinplomo | how can i change resolution |
| 21:36.59 | elive-bot | sinplomo: well, elive-resolution is if you like to start with another resolution (and install the system with this resolution), add screen=1024x768 in the boot options |
| 21:37.06 | sinplomo | ahi tienes |
| 21:37.19 | Gorku | :-m |
| 21:38.13 | Gorku | bueno, igual con eso me vale, pero la cosa es que aunque en el XF86Config ponga la res a 1024 todo el rato, las X siempre arrancan a 800x600 |
| 21:38.24 | Gorku | y en el monitor de mi portatil se ve como el orto XD |
| 21:38.53 | Gorku | pero probare tu ayuda sinplomo :) |
| 21:40.38 | sinplomo | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 21:40.50 | sinplomo | y agrega las resoluciones que quieras |
| 21:40.53 | Gorku | ya, ya lo hice |
| 21:41.24 | Gorku | por eso pregunto, por que en todas partes pone 1024x768, y arranca a 800 :/ |
| 21:43.17 | sinplomo | Gorku, ctrl + alt + "tecla mas del numerico |
| 21:43.58 | Gorku | tb lo he probado |
| 21:44.07 | Gorku | en fin, seguire trasteando con la configuracion |
| 21:44.14 | Gorku | y gracias :) |
| 21:44.25 | mariodebian | Gorku: cambiaste a mano el xorg.conf XFconfig86-4 ?? |
| 21:45.51 | Gorku | a mano, con xf86config y con dpkg-reconfigure |
| 21:46.04 | Thanatermesis | Gorku lo se.... |
| 21:46.04 | mariodebian | si lo editas a mano dpkg-reconfigure no funciona |
| 21:46.09 | Gorku | hacia eones que no usaba el xf86config |
| 21:46.13 | Thanatermesis | Gorku estas en el sistema instalado ? |
| 21:46.21 | Gorku | si |
| 21:46.23 | mariodebian | mira las primeras lÃneas y ejecuta los 3 comandos que salen |
| 21:46.32 | Thanatermesis | pues ugpradeate a XORG y no tendras mas el problema :) |
| 21:46.36 | Thanatermesis | mariodebian tu vas a usar xorg, no ? |
| 21:46.46 | Gorku | Thanatermesis: eso como lo hago? |
| 21:46.55 | Thanatermesis | Gorku apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 21:47.18 | Gorku | con eso se me quitn las xfree y instala xorg el solito? |
| 21:48.12 | Thanatermesis | si |
| 21:48.18 | Thanatermesis | y no tendras mas el problema de la resolucion |
| 21:48.32 | Gorku | okis, gracias :) |
| 21:48.40 | Thanatermesis | el problema de la resolucion se debe a que Elive ya estaba usando las autodetecciones/configuraciones para xorg y lanzaba xfree |
| 21:49.23 | Gorku | okis, gracias :D |
| 21:50.27 | Gorku | porcierto, Thanatermesis y sinplomo (no se si mas gente aqui), vosotros sois de la gente de Elive, no? quiero decir, currais en la distro |
| 21:50.57 | Gorku | nu? |
| 21:52.34 | mariodebian | Thanatermesis: yo tengo xorg si !! |
| 21:56.36 | Thanatermesis | se podria decir que si Gorku ... pero sobretodo curramos las vacaciones :D |
| 21:59.31 | *** join/#elive yiyus (n=yiyus@81.172.77.152) |
| 22:00.54 | *** join/#elive badboy (n=Elive_us@62-151-44-10.yaonline.ya.com) |
| 22:03.06 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@p548B6E30.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:18.42 | *** join/#elive badboy (n=Elive_us@62-151-44-10.yaonline.ya.com) |
| 22:25.24 | *** join/#elive badboy (n=Elive_us@62-151-44-10.yaonline.ya.com) |
| 22:30.02 | *** join/#elive gan|y|med (n=ganymed@dialin-145-254-050-017.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:30.14 | gan|y|med | hallo |
| 22:31.13 | gan|y|med | i have elive 0.3 installed. everything had worked fine until i added an extra user... from then on i haven't been able to login from entrance... |
| 22:31.14 | rl | hello |
| 22:31.24 | gan|y|med | normal startx works though |
| 22:31.46 | rl | yo estoy en eso tambien, se esta instalando elive 0.3 |
| 22:32.06 | Thanatermesis | elive-skel -user blablah ? |
| 22:32.13 | Thanatermesis | elive-skel -user |
| 22:32.14 | gan|y|med | no se, rl. en espanol? |
| 22:32.44 | rl | si gan|y|med |
| 22:33.10 | gan|y|med | sry, i meant: en ingles? |
| 22:33.33 | gan|y|med | sth is messed up in my head |
| 22:36.02 | gan|y|med | ti hablas en ingles? my spanish is terrible |
| 22:37.48 | gan|y|med | ok, that did not work! it simply doesn't start up... |
| 22:39.19 | gan|y|med | plz, anybody here who can help me out? |
| 22:41.25 | rl | do you have a partition only for your first user? |
| 22:41.55 | Anarien | Gorku, que conste que el Thanatermesis es el que menos curra de todos eh!! :) |
| 22:42.02 | Anarien | Thanatermesis, :)** |
| 22:42.10 | gan|y|med | rl: häh? |
| 22:42.20 | gan|y|med | what do u mean...? |
| 22:43.27 | rl | when you installed it... did you do a /home partition? or only / ? |
| 22:43.39 | gan|y|med | i created the first user during install... and /home is on a separate partition |
| 22:43.55 | gan|y|med | it is in fstab... |
| 22:44.11 | gan|y|med | mount shows me it as mounted |
| 22:44.29 | gan|y|med | by the way, i think it's great! |
| 22:44.35 | rl | sure |
| 22:44.58 | gan|y|med | was this irony? |
| 22:46.06 | gan|y|med | well, everything worked until that new user... |
| 22:46.32 | Gorku | Anarien XD |
| 22:47.15 | Anarien | jeje |
| 22:47.37 | gan|y|med | is there a log for entrance? |
| 22:48.19 | gan|y|med | i get in my syslog: entranced: session terminated with signal 11 |
| 22:48.40 | Anarien | apt, x en es is there a log for entrance? |
| 22:49.10 | Anarien | apt, x en es i get in my syslog: entranced: session terminated with signal 11 |
| 22:49.59 | gan|y|med | and some overlapping memory address when x trys to load mtrr.. but normal startx works anyway... |
| 22:50.25 | Anarien | apt, x en es and some overlapping memory address when x trys to load mtrr.. but normal startx works anyway... |
| 22:50.47 | gan|y|med | btw, i do not understand apt |
| 22:51.12 | Anarien | apt, x en es btw, i do not understand apt |
| 22:51.35 | Anarien | yo te entiendo menos lo siento... :) |
| 22:51.56 | gan|y|med | no se... |
| 22:52.01 | Anarien | bueno, si te entiendo, pero no puedo contestarte por que no escribo ingles |
| 22:52.15 | Anarien | anda!!, hablas español? |
| 22:52.29 | Thanatermesis | xD Anarien |
| 22:52.44 | gan|y|med | habla menos... mucho menos... |
| 22:53.33 | gan|y|med | hablas sth. else? |
| 22:57.17 | reliver | gan|y|med, Anarien, need help, necesitas ayuda ? |
| 22:57.42 | gan|y|med | if u ask me if i need help... yes, please... |
| 22:58.16 | reliver | and Anarien could help, but you don't understand him ? |
| 22:59.10 | gan|y|med | exactly, actually, i am not sure. because i do not understand him. |
| 22:59.32 | reliver | Anarien, sabes como ayudar a gan|y|med ? |
| 23:00.20 | Anarien | que le ocurre exactamente? |
| 23:00.40 | gan|y|med | as i said... i cannot log in from entrance |
| 23:00.47 | reliver | desde que configuro un segundo usuario, no consige mas usar entrance. |
| 23:00.57 | Anarien | eing? |
| 23:01.13 | Anarien | pero donde lo configuró? |
| 23:02.22 | reliver | anarien, gan|y|med configuro un usuario adicional en su Elive, entiendes ? |
| 23:02.46 | reliver | how did you configure a second user, gan|y|med ? |
| 23:03.16 | gan|y|med | actually, just with adduser. then i restarted and wanted to log in. no user works. |
| 23:03.35 | reliver | con adduser, anarien |
| 23:03.39 | Anarien | aham |
| 23:03.42 | gan|y|med | then i did elive-skel for every user, afterwards for all |
| 23:03.47 | Anarien | y no le va el entrance? |
| 23:03.58 | reliver | asi es. |
| 23:04.04 | Anarien | que cosas... |
| 23:04.07 | Anarien | voy a ver |
| 23:04.13 | reliver | gan|y|med, did you do a dist-upgrade yesterday ? |
| 23:04.39 | gan|y|med | no. it is a live-cd install. the cd is from last week |
| 23:05.17 | gan|y|med | what did i do wrong. everything worked flawlessly. i also changed the keyboard layot... |
| 23:05.59 | gan|y|med | layout |
| 23:06.09 | Anarien | apt x en es no. it is a live-cd install. the cd is from last week |
| 23:06.26 | Anarien | vivir -CD? xDDDDDDDDDD |
| 23:06.37 | Anarien | creo que con apt me entero menos eh!! |
| 23:06.45 | rl | :s |
| 23:06.56 | rl | cosas del idioma... |
| 23:07.00 | Anarien | a ver.. |
| 23:07.01 | reliver | anarien, no entiendo. |
| 23:07.06 | Anarien | segun entiendo yo... |
| 23:07.24 | reliver | como ? |
| 23:07.49 | Anarien | dice que instalo elive con el live-cd a partir de otra instalación que ya tenia? |
| 23:07.53 | Anarien | correcto? |
| 23:08.14 | Anarien | reliver, es que no entiendo lo que pretende decir |
| 23:08.15 | reliver | se instalo desde cd hace una semana, so esto. |
| 23:08.21 | Anarien | aham |
| 23:08.30 | Anarien | y ahora ha creado un nuevo user |
| 23:08.35 | Anarien | correcto? |
| 23:09.35 | gan|y|med | si |
| 23:09.40 | reliver | si. |
| 23:10.37 | Anarien | pues la verdad no le veo la relación con que le falle el entrance |
| 23:11.00 | reliver | digo que tenta un dist-upgrade ? |
| 23:11.06 | Anarien | si |
| 23:11.21 | Anarien | quizas es el problema de las X |
| 23:11.33 | reliver | ok, gan|y|med, can you try http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Update ? |
| 23:14.21 | Anarien | reliver, de quien es la page? |
| 23:15.11 | reliver | como de quien ? yo lo escribi, te gusta ? |
| 23:15.37 | gan|y|med | but why does it suddenly appear? |
| 23:16.00 | reliver | we don't know ... |
| 23:17.01 | Anarien | reliver, If, I like it :) |
| 23:17.13 | Anarien | jeje |
| 23:17.19 | Anarien | esta bien dicho? |
| 23:18.36 | reliver | gracias :-) |
| 23:18.46 | Anarien | I like much |
| 23:18.48 | reliver | If significa Se |
| 23:18.53 | gan|y|med | i have to select a conf file, butit says file not found, though it is there |
| 23:19.07 | reliver | oh, bien :-) quieres ayudar con esto wiki, anarien ? |
| 23:19.18 | gan|y|med | now it works |
| 23:19.41 | gan|y|med | but i still cannot log in |
| 23:19.54 | reliver | great, gan|y|med , funciona ahora para el, anarien :-) |
| 23:20.48 | Anarien | reliver, Impossible, I do not dominate sufficiently the Englishman as to do it |
| 23:21.17 | gan|y|med | how is the exact package name for entrance? |
| 23:21.28 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@206.106.255.174) |
| 23:21.31 | Anarien | reliver, ya le funciona? |
| 23:21.37 | Anarien | bien!!!! |
| 23:22.05 | *** part/#elive nacho-fya (n=Elive_us@206.106.255.174) |
| 23:22.27 | gan|y|med | can u give me the package repository of elive? |
| 23:23.21 | Anarien | apt, x en es can u give me the package repository of elive? |
| 23:23.55 | reliver | http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Sources |
| 23:24.12 | Anarien | gan|y|med, This one in the topic |
| 23:25.14 | Anarien | ainsss, ya mismo domino esto que no veas!! xd |
| 23:25.27 | Anarien | reliver, lo hago muy mal? |
| 23:25.30 | Anarien | XDDDDDDDDDD |
| 23:25.35 | reliver | anarien, porque no ayudas con el wiki en espanol ? |
| 23:25.46 | Anarien | anda!!, hay wiki español? |
| 23:25.55 | Anarien | no me he fijado... |
| 23:26.04 | Anarien | espera, lo miro bien |
| 23:26.19 | reliver | lo estamos preparando, mas ya puedes ter las cosas al lado en espanol. |
| 23:26.29 | Anarien | aham |
| 23:26.37 | reliver | te quieres inscribir ? |
| 23:26.47 | gan|y|med | ok. i am doing an upgrade now, just takes some time... modem user |
| 23:26.53 | Anarien | espera espera, voy a echarle un vistazo |
| 23:28.12 | Thanatermesis | <reliver> http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Sources |
| 23:28.28 | Thanatermesis | Anarien podrias cambiar tu repo al primero de la lista a ver si lo e escrito correctamente ? |
| 23:28.39 | Thanatermesis | sera el usado para Elive a partir de ahora... |
| 23:28.43 | Anarien | voy |
| 23:30.58 | Anarien | Des:1 http://idefix.eup.uva.es elive/main Packages [14,3kB] |
| 23:30.58 | Anarien | Des:2 http://idefix.eup.uva.es elive/main Release [35B] |
| 23:30.58 | Anarien | Des:3 http://idefix.eup.uva.es elive/efl Packages [5263B] |
| 23:30.58 | Anarien | Des:4 http://idefix.eup.uva.es elive/efl Release [34B] |
| 23:30.58 | Anarien | Des:5 http://idefix.eup.uva.es elive/elive Packages [2710B] |
| 23:31.11 | Anarien | Des:6 http://idefix.eup.uva.es elive/elive Release [36B] |
| 23:31.14 | Anarien | correcto |
| 23:31.39 | Anarien | lo dejo ya y quito el otro? |
| 23:31.40 | gan|y|med | mucho gracias |
| 23:31.46 | *** join/#elive eshep (n=eshep@32.236.109.219.ap.yournet.ne.jp) |
| 23:31.46 | Anarien | o de momento es el anterior? |
| 23:32.11 | reliver | does it already work for you again, gan|y|med ? |
| 23:32.11 | gan|y|med | have to go now... |
| 23:32.26 | reliver | bye, gan|y|med, hope to see you :-) |
| 23:32.26 | gan|y|med | no |
| 23:32.35 | gan|y|med | i am still upgrading |
| 23:32.42 | reliver | sure. |
| 23:33.20 | gan|y|med | just to mention it again, concerning desktop "technology" enlightenment is the best i have seen so far... |
| 23:33.28 | gan|y|med | cu |
| 23:33.51 | Anarien | que ha dicho? |
| 23:34.18 | reliver | que enlightenment le gucha lo mejor de todos desktop, anarien |
| 23:34.32 | reliver | que enlightenment le gusta lo mejor de todos desktop, anarien |
| 23:34.55 | Anarien | aha si y que en cuanto a tecnologia es lo mejor que ha visto hasta ahora :) |
| 23:35.14 | Anarien | voy dominando eh!? xD |
| 23:36.01 | Anarien | bueno... pues ya me direis que tengo que hacer con ese repositorio que he añadido... |
| 23:36.07 | Anarien | si lo dejo o lo quito |
| 23:37.53 | Thanatermesis | pues... |
| 23:37.55 | Thanatermesis | dejalo |
| 23:37.55 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 23:38.02 | Thanatermesis | lo que no se es como comprobar que funciona xD |
| 23:38.03 | Thanatermesis | ah si |
| 23:38.20 | Thanatermesis | haz: apt-cache policy entrance (despues del update claro), y mira si la direccion es de la nueva |
| 23:39.57 | Anarien | entrance: |
| 23:39.57 | Anarien | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.58 | Anarien | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.58 | Anarien | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.58 | Anarien | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.58 | Anarien | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.00 | Anarien | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.02 | Anarien | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.10 | Anarien | correcto |
| 23:40.16 | Anarien | por cierto... |
| 23:40.23 | Anarien | toma flood!! XD |
| 23:41.05 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 23:41.10 | Thanatermesis | bien bien... |
| 23:41.14 | Thanatermesis | perfecto pues :) |
| 23:41.20 | Thanatermesis | ya puedes hacer lo que quieras con el xD |
| 23:47.06 | yiyus | idefix en la politecnica??? |
| 23:47.16 | yiyus | hay un mirror de elive en la universidad de valladolid?? |
| 23:50.38 | Anarien | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:51.58 | Anarien | ah vale!!, dice que tengo que saber el passcode para registrarme en ese sitio |
| 23:52.17 | Anarien | no ves?, lo que yo decia!!, soy la marginada de siempre! xD |
| 23:53.25 | Anarien | bueno... pues ya me direis cual es el passcode..., por que yo me quiero registrar en el club-elive |
| 23:54.39 | *** join/#elive mgrd (n=mgrd@p548FF374.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:54.46 | Thanatermesis | yiyus si :) |
| 23:55.11 | Thanatermesis | Anarien habla con reliver ;) |
| 23:55.32 | mgrd | euskadi? |
| 23:55.43 | reliver | si, te mando mensaje en canal privado, anarien |
| 23:55.48 | Anarien | oka |
| 23:56.18 | mgrd | ta askatasuna? |
| 23:56.30 | Thanatermesis | no, creo que hoy no a venido... |
| 23:58.34 | reliver | lo recebiste, anarien ? |
| 23:59.16 | reliver | marginada de siempre, anarien ? |
| 23:59.27 | reliver | seis una ella, si ? :-) |
