| 00:00.00 | reliver | ah, come here to my breast, roxxer :-) |
| 00:00.09 | felix | roxville: ¿mom? |
| 00:00.10 | roxville | lol |
| 00:00.18 | reliver | yes :-) |
| 00:00.31 | roxville | whew! 2 days without internet or phone... |
| 00:00.41 | reliver | roxville, mutacion is blowing a page about us all here :-) |
| 00:01.03 | roxville | blowing a page? |
| 00:01.06 | reliver | you must be starving, roxville :-) |
| 00:01.09 | Nano|9000 | ouch |
| 00:01.15 | reliver | don't drink too fast now :-) |
| 00:01.22 | roxville | lol |
| 00:01.48 | reliver | roxville, what's the name of that chap from moçambique here ? |
| 00:02.29 | roxville | hmmm and you ask me this after 2 days away from anything net related? |
| 00:03.09 | reliver | do you remember seeing him a week ago ? |
| 00:03.10 | roxville | i had to spend time with my family and stuff! |
| 00:03.12 | reliver | here ? |
| 00:03.15 | roxville | :) |
| 00:03.27 | roxville | yes i remember, but not his nick |
| 00:03.36 | reliver | good. what's "that stuff" ? :-) |
| 00:04.50 | roxville | can you explain again what Mutacion is doing? |
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| 00:07.39 | [PoL] | Hi |
| 00:08.00 | roxville | hi [PoL] how are you? |
| 00:08.15 | felix | hmmm |
| 00:08.15 | [PoL] | well, how are you ? |
| 00:08.50 | reliver | http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=ppl |
| 00:08.51 | roxville | just fine! is this your first time here? i haven't seen your nick before |
| 00:09.36 | [PoL] | yeah, it's the first I join to this channel |
| 00:09.46 | eshep | but hes working so... |
| 00:09.47 | [PoL] | but not to freenode |
| 00:10.16 | reliver | hello pol :-) |
| 00:10.35 | [PoL] | hello reliver |
| 00:10.43 | reliver | roxville, i guess pol meant "fine, how are you", not well, how are you :-) |
| 00:11.30 | roxville | well, you can say "i'm doing well" |
| 00:11.31 | reliver | pol, great you visit. |
| 00:11.48 | roxville | yo eshep, what's up? |
| 00:11.55 | [PoL] | my english is very sort... is best in the technical texts... but the book don't say how to dialog with the people... |
| 00:11.56 | [PoL] | :) |
| 00:12.00 | reliver | yes, but if you put it like he did, it takes on a different meaning. |
| 00:12.19 | reliver | no problem, pol |
| 00:12.25 | eshep | roxville, howdy. whats up? work |
| 00:12.40 | reliver | to reply "well, how are you" means something different: |
| 00:12.51 | [PoL] | what's the meaning of this ? |
| 00:13.08 | reliver | it means: "ok, now please tell me first yourself" :-) |
| 00:13.19 | [PoL] | ops... |
| 00:13.26 | roxville | well... my internet has been down for 2 days... so i'm... worn out from spending so much time doing other things! |
| 00:13.32 | eshep | im racking my brain trying to setup ipp in xp, bah! |
| 00:13.36 | [PoL] | you know i waht to say |
| 00:13.49 | reliver | oh.. you enjoyed it, roxville ? |
| 00:13.54 | reliver | sure, pol. |
| 00:13.56 | roxville | yes [PoL] i got it :) |
| 00:14.16 | reliver | pol, can we help ? |
| 00:14.28 | [PoL] | i can try... |
| 00:14.44 | [PoL] | i don't need help, thanks |
| 00:14.51 | reliver | ah, great :-) |
| 00:14.52 | roxville | [PoL], where are you from? |
| 00:14.59 | reliver | are you on Elive, pol ? |
| 00:15.00 | [PoL] | i'm from spain |
| 00:15.06 | [PoL] | not |
| 00:15.19 | reliver | bueno, hablamos espanol aqui tambien :-) |
| 00:15.35 | [PoL] | :) |
| 00:15.38 | [PoL] | era de esperar |
| 00:15.41 | reliver | i thought you were from poland ... |
| 00:16.04 | [PoL] | for my nick ? |
| 00:16.33 | roxville | eshep, i feel for you dude |
| 00:17.28 | [PoL] | elive is a stable distro ? |
| 00:17.57 | roxville | [PoL], it's .... being worked on |
| 00:18.21 | eshep | [PoL], quite stable, even e17 for the most part |
| 00:18.35 | roxville | it's still only at 0.3, but thanatermesis, the developer is doing a great job, and we are here to cheer him on |
| 00:18.58 | roxville | and to tell him what WE would like to see in the next release |
| 00:19.03 | [PoL] | looks great, for old machines could be a good solution.... |
| 00:19.31 | Mutacion | rox rox! |
| 00:19.39 | eshep | yeah, it runs great on a CF-28 toughbook i have here at work |
| 00:19.51 | Mutacion | Pol, of course is a stable version! is a debina kernel 2.6 ! :) |
| 00:20.18 | roxville | hi Mutacion how ya doin' ? |
| 00:20.29 | Mutacion | eshep and roxville.. see this and give me ur comments.. http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=ppl&savenotepad=1 |
| 00:20.35 | [PoL] | em, excuse me if i offended anybody... but i don't like enlightment |
| 00:20.38 | [PoL] | :P |
| 00:20.39 | Mutacion | writing down on wiki :) |
| 00:21.01 | Mutacion | jiji.. why u dont like it? maybe ur not prepare for the future POL xD |
| 00:21.24 | Mutacion | UFOS use E17 on there console screen |
| 00:21.26 | [PoL] | i like the integration of applications... |
| 00:21.30 | Mutacion | UFO's xD |
| 00:21.32 | [PoL] | this is the future for me |
| 00:21.50 | roxville | lol [PoL] ... i don't mind you saying that...but most of the ppl are here because they DO like enlightenment |
| 00:22.14 | [PoL] | I like to see the world for take a opinion |
| 00:22.24 | Mutacion | jiji.. i also love beer :P |
| 00:22.32 | Mutacion | tequila.. yeah yeah :P |
| 00:23.15 | roxville | lol Mutacion , it's very good...even though it's not fun for an old dog like me to see how young a lot of the guys are |
| 00:23.20 | roxville | :) |
| 00:24.04 | roxville | yes [PoL] the apps are pretty well chosen, and... if you want to install gnome, i guess noone can do anything about it, huh? |
| 00:24.06 | Mutacion | jiji :).. ill start posting in that wikki..when i have time.. maybe it wil also function on my pocket pc |
| 00:25.04 | [PoL] | why i will to install gnome before the install of the distro if i can install it in one step ? |
| 00:25.11 | eshep | Mutacion, thats nice. but you forgot me |
| 00:25.12 | [PoL] | :-P :) |
| 00:25.37 | roxville | lol, ok... i guess you'd have to install it first |
| 00:26.29 | Mutacion | nouu eshep |
| 00:26.40 | Mutacion | fuck! :P |
| 00:26.45 | Mutacion | i forgot u haha |
| 00:26.57 | eshep | most people do, its ok |
| 00:27.04 | [PoL] | what ever, i think that distro like elive have to are making for old machines, in the world, the machines are very expensive... and desktops like enlightment have a good job for use in this machines... :) |
| 00:27.04 | roxville | Mutacion, eshep, american, living in okinawa, our indispensable link to the east |
| 00:27.47 | Mutacion | haha xD |
| 00:27.50 | Mutacion | ocuation eshep |
| 00:27.52 | Mutacion | ? |
| 00:27.55 | Mutacion | ocupation |
| 00:28.03 | eshep | professionaly, i do Sun hardware repair |
| 00:28.06 | roxville | or muta, let eshep choose his comment himself |
| 00:28.17 | roxville | there ya go |
| 00:28.35 | Mutacion | okinawa == Japan? |
| 00:28.42 | Mutacion | or NOrt corea? or south corea? |
| 00:28.43 | roxville | eshep, must be getting hot from time to time |
| 00:28.47 | eshep | the one and only |
| 00:29.24 | Mutacion | jiji eshep..tell me what to put on the wiki |
| 00:30.32 | roxville | Mutacion, if you type in english...why don't you laugh in english? |
| 00:30.49 | Mutacion | cause im not a totally english talker jiji |
| 00:31.03 | eshep | eshep / Japan / Sun Desktop repairman / 28 |
| 00:31.10 | Mutacion | :o |
| 00:31.30 | roxville | :P |
| 00:32.14 | Mutacion | jiji.. another one that i have forget? |
| 00:32.28 | Mutacion | have i forget someone on the wiki? |
| 00:32.33 | eshep | Mutacion, also add idiom Nihongo |
| 00:32.35 | roxville | ok, put my age on there too... i JUST turned.... 40 |
| 00:32.49 | Mutacion | jijii |
| 00:33.00 | roxville | muta, add sHR00m |
| 00:33.06 | roxville | and shadoi |
| 00:33.30 | roxville | and yius |
| 00:33.34 | roxville | yiyus |
| 00:33.46 | reliver | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.50 | Mutacion | and what i put of info to them? |
| 00:33.57 | reliver | which window manager do you like ? |
| 00:34.23 | roxville | well... i dunno, ask them |
| 00:34.26 | roxville | :) |
| 00:34.47 | Mutacion | haha xD |
| 00:34.57 | roxville | and remember to ask the one's that aren't here the next time you see them |
| 00:35.07 | [PoL] | reliver: gnome |
| 00:35.21 | reliver | eshep, what is ipp ? |
| 00:35.36 | eshep | internet printing protocol |
| 00:35.46 | roxville | ipp = internet pimping protocol |
| 00:35.54 | reliver | ah, pol, so what is interesting about Elive for you, pol ? |
| 00:36.12 | roxville | or i guess it could mean printing too |
| 00:36.42 | [PoL] | the init scripts... |
| 00:36.54 | eshep | very easy to setup in *X |
| 00:37.29 | Mutacion | all done :). cest finni! |
| 00:38.16 | roxville | Mutacion, we also have 2 other swedes here, Jabba and Rydekull ... but they haven't said anything i over a week |
| 00:39.17 | Mutacion | well when u see them ask them their info so i can post it..or u can also edit it |
| 00:40.58 | reliver | the init scripts are from morphix, pol ? |
| 00:41.13 | roxville | how about /sweden/ghost on both of them? |
| 00:41.44 | eshep | reliver, but those ms bastards only know how to connect to ipp |
| 00:42.10 | [PoL] | reliver: I did't know... |
| 00:42.41 | reliver | i am not sure, pol. |
| 00:42.50 | [PoL] | I don't have experiencing developing live distros... |
| 00:42.52 | reliver | do you know morphix ? |
| 00:43.19 | Mutacion | GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL |
| 00:43.19 | reliver | they like to pimp, eh, eshep ? :-) |
| 00:43.28 | reliver | aha :-) |
| 00:43.48 | eshep | right, but help...not a chance |
| 00:44.00 | reliver | why, roxville ? |
| 00:45.06 | roxville | nothing... i've just been the "dad" ever since i started chatting |
| 00:45.21 | reliver | help is money in the ms dix. |
| 00:45.37 | Mutacion | mexico 3 - 0 brazil ( soccer final game) |
| 00:46.02 | roxville | even kept a couple 15 yr old girls from going to hell... they were totally oblivious to what they were saying to whom |
| 00:46.16 | roxville | yay! viva mejico!! |
| 00:46.18 | reliver | roxville, i think you should change profession with your wife :-) |
| 00:46.31 | Mutacion | mexico.. with an X :P |
| 00:46.37 | Mutacion | like uniX |
| 00:46.53 | roxville | mejico |
| 00:47.02 | roxville | mejico mejico |
| 00:47.06 | reliver | lol, roxville :-) |
| 00:47.12 | roxville | jiji, mejico |
| 00:47.37 | Mutacion | mexico mexico!! ra ra ra!! a la vio..a la vao.. a la bim bom ba! Mexico! ra ra ra! |
| 00:47.43 | eshep | reliver, they wanted me to pay 250 bucks for a question about some very unclear documentation |
| 00:48.05 | roxville | whoa! you're kidding? |
| 00:48.07 | Mutacion | jiji Joan Paul II.. always said that when he remembered Mexico jiji |
| 00:48.13 | reliver | sure, eshep ... |
| 00:48.38 | reliver | maybe with these prices there is a parallel support market ? |
| 00:49.17 | roxville | bread even |
| 00:50.12 | Mutacion | hahah BIMBO bread! not gread |
| 00:50.41 | Mutacion | MEXICO WORLD CHAMPEON!!! :) sub-17(soccer) |
| 00:50.47 | Mutacion | jiji yeah (y) |
| 00:51.57 | roxville | ok Mutacion , if that's how you wanna play the game... it's CHAMPION, not CHAMPEON |
| 00:52.09 | roxville | :P |
| 00:52.34 | roxville | mejico |
| 00:54.37 | Mutacion | eso eso eso :P |
| 00:54.46 | Mutacion | ahah lol |
| 00:54.53 | Mutacion | apt, es x campeon |
| 00:57.27 | Mutacion | apt, en x campeon |
| 00:57.42 | Mutacion | duuh |
| 00:57.47 | Mutacion | apt_, en x campeon |
| 00:58.12 | roxville | eshep, did thana send you erme? |
| 00:58.39 | roxville | no, not army, erme |
| 00:59.05 | roxville | or did you d/l it fro the repo? |
| 01:00.30 | eshep | erme? |
| 01:00.39 | eshep | elpanel? |
| 01:00.54 | roxville | yes, that config app he wanted us to test for him |
| 01:00.57 | roxville | erme |
| 01:01.09 | eshep | apt-gettin now |
| 01:01.16 | roxville | he might include it in elpanel |
| 01:01.39 | roxville | not bad, very easy to load modules and stuff |
| 01:04.07 | eshep | cool! you now how much this adds to e17!? |
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| 01:05.27 | roxville | i'm, not much for messing around with key bindings and mouse bindings, but definitely helpful! |
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| 01:06.23 | roxville | and it sees all your modules, so you don't have to use enlightenment_remote...yadayada |
| 01:07.18 | roxville | that's the name of the app enlightenment_remote made easy...erme |
| 01:17.16 | reliver | is someone here interesting in testing a simple swf screenshot movie making application ? |
| 01:17.19 | reliver | http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Screenshotmovies |
| 01:21.57 | roxville | cool! good job reliver! |
| 01:22.40 | roxville | reliver, it's a little hard to find the faq, or our little howto section |
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| 01:24.55 | reliver | thanks, roxville. |
| 01:25.09 | reliver | is it working for you ? |
| 01:25.27 | reliver | you are right, there should be easier links. |
| 01:26.04 | roxville | no, i can never find it...so silly |
| 01:29.16 | reliver | the screenshot movie utility, is it working for you ? |
| 01:29.49 | reliver | or you don't find the output files ? |
| 01:30.58 | roxville | oh, i was talking about the faq in the wiki. i haven't g/l wink yet |
| 01:31.06 | roxville | d/l |
| 01:32.20 | reliver | this link, roxville ? http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=8 |
| 01:34.18 | roxville | can you add that link to the homepage, reliver ? |
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| 01:40.22 | reliver | i thought about it, roxville, but the faq is a bit skinny and lacking still ... |
| 01:40.35 | reliver | is wink working well for you ? |
| 01:41.26 | roxville | i have not yet installed wink |
| 01:41.55 | reliver | you do not need to download it, roxville. |
| 01:42.22 | reliver | in the terminal, enter su, then apt-get install wink |
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| 01:45.41 | Mutacion | baaaaaaaaaaaaaajan! |
| 01:45.42 | Mutacion | xD |
| 01:46.18 | reliver | hola de vuelta, mutacion :-) |
| 01:46.19 | roxville | reliver... apt-get needs to download it from the repo... that's what i meant |
| 01:47.13 | Mutacion | haba qiubole raza :P |
| 01:47.21 | Mutacion | qiubole raza == hi ppl |
| 01:47.55 | reliver | ah :-) |
| 01:52.42 | reliver | mutacion, tenta eso por favor: http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Screenshotmovies |
| 01:53.53 | Mutacion | i have to install it? |
| 01:54.58 | reliver | yes, if you like, it is very small. |
| 01:55.04 | reliver | in the terminal, enter su, then apt-get install wink |
| 01:55.12 | Mutacion | but im not in elive :s |
| 01:55.25 | reliver | oh, still ? |
| 01:55.53 | Mutacion | nop here i have fedora |
| 01:56.11 | reliver | ok, you want to try it there ? |
| 01:56.16 | Mutacion | im not in my usual pc.. i leave the laptop now |
| 01:57.12 | reliver | no problem, mutacion |
| 01:57.41 | Mutacion | maybe on thursday ill format fedora and intall elive in this pc |
| 01:57.54 | Mutacion | i have to macke a huge 80 gig bakcup :s |
| 01:59.59 | roxville | fedora...what is that? the name of your dog? |
| 02:00.32 | Mutacion | its a distro base on RH |
| 02:01.15 | Mutacion | is cause when i started in linucx i used rh6, rh8, rh9, and fedora.. (on this pc) |
| 02:01.18 | roxville | sounds like a dog to me! :P |
| 02:03.07 | reliver | roxville, fedora is ubuntu on steroids ;-) |
| 02:03.24 | Mutacion | jiji |
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| 02:03.28 | roxville | say Debian... the word alone will make you think of a perfect world...maybe a small waterfall in the background |
| 02:03.29 | reliver | :-) |
| 02:03.53 | roxville | Debian... |
| 02:03.55 | reliver | where is the waterfall, roxville, i want it on my desktop too :-) |
| 02:04.19 | roxville | it's there, in your mind, if you say...Debian... |
| 02:05.06 | roxville | if it makes a splooshing sound...that's your brain falling out from using red hat for too long |
| 02:05.16 | roxville | :) |
| 02:05.40 | reliver | oh, sounds like a jfk 1953 thing ... |
| 02:05.47 | reliver | not home for me ... |
| 02:06.04 | reliver | the debian nazis kicked me out from their channel yesterday |
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| 02:06.25 | roxville | i believe it was 1962? |
| 02:06.49 | reliver | for daring to point out that their dpkg-reconfigure ethconf makes a mistake that can result in network loops. |
| 02:07.05 | reliver | 1963, yes. |
| 02:07.17 | Mutacion | u know what roxville.. im a fan of lord of the rings.. and when i sawy the - lord of the whirls wallpaper- i was amazed of the potential of debian.. since then i started to used it :) |
| 02:07.35 | Mutacion | i dunno is something like..- feel the power- or something like that :P |
| 02:07.55 | roxville | that's pretty cool muta! |
| 02:08.25 | roxville | the only RPM distro i could agree with was BLAG |
| 02:08.51 | roxville | it's got the right attitude too |
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| 02:09.35 | roxville | it was actually u...oops, i almost said it... that got me hooked on debian |
| 02:09.42 | Muta | :# shit of winbug |
| 02:09.52 | Muta | hahaha xD |
| 02:10.03 | Muta | dont say that word rox :P |
| 02:10.19 | roxville | nope, not in here :) |
| 02:10.25 | Muta | debian is 100% secure :P haha.. but most it depends on the user that installs it jiji |
| 02:11.27 | roxville | yep... it just cooperates with me and how i think, that's all |
| 02:11.38 | reliver | debian is the windows of linux :-) |
| 02:12.02 | roxville | reliver, PLEASE don't make comments like that! |
| 02:12.06 | reliver | and ubuntu is its XP :-) |
| 02:12.09 | Muta | hahaha |
| 02:12.16 | reliver | why, roxville ? |
| 02:12.16 | Muta | nouu dont mess with linux :P |
| 02:12.20 | Muta | linux =! win |
| 02:12.45 | Muta | if u say taht is like.. windows is as powerfull as linux..and it cant be that way |
| 02:12.50 | roxville | because i hate windows... it would never agree with me! |
| 02:13.08 | Muta | linux cant compare with winbug |
| 02:13.30 | roxville | i don't hate windows because it's evil or because of bill gates... i hate it because it won't do what i want it to do when i want it to do it! |
| 02:13.35 | Muta | i have a terrible headache :s |
| 02:14.20 | reliver | why attach one's emotions with things ? ... |
| 02:14.39 | roxville | when i got my first imac... that's when i realized what a real computer should be |
| 02:14.48 | reliver | there are good and bad coders in all of these systems. |
| 02:15.16 | Muta | i have never had an mac :s |
| 02:15.21 | reliver | love your dog, love your children, your friends, |
| 02:15.32 | reliver | but don't love or hate things ... |
| 02:15.44 | reliver | it just does not make sense. |
| 02:15.57 | roxville | of course there are bad coders and good coders! all i'm saying is that i never liked windows |
| 02:16.11 | reliver | no problems. |
| 02:16.29 | Muta | at what hour do all users have to speack spanish? im still waiting xD |
| 02:16.34 | reliver | i don't like windows and don't like debian. |
| 02:16.34 | Muta | ashh ya me canse hahaha |
| 02:16.42 | Muta | speack |
| 02:16.44 | Muta | spea |
| 02:16.47 | Muta | speak.. |
| 02:17.10 | roxville | reliver, if you don't like debian.... why elive? |
| 02:17.17 | reliver | well, you were the one saying i should stop speaking spanish so you can start to understand me, muta ... |
| 02:17.36 | reliver | because in elive, debian is far away. |
| 02:17.44 | reliver | far away from me. |
| 02:17.50 | reliver | well hidden. |
| 02:17.53 | roxville | elive is almost as debian as it gets |
| 02:18.28 | roxville | i agree... i could never do a decent debian install... until u came along |
| 02:18.28 | reliver | no, that's not true: ubuntu's gnome interface is much more debian world. |
| 02:19.10 | roxville | i'm just talking about the linux part... not the WM |
| 02:19.26 | reliver | i am here for the wm :-) |
| 02:19.42 | reliver | not for the motorblock beneith ... |
| 02:19.56 | Muta | a ver onde me qede?> |
| 02:20.15 | Muta | hahahah |
| 02:20.29 | Muta | yo lo decia pero solamente por el query del wiki..porqe no te entendia muy bien |
| 02:20.34 | Muta | haha pero ya puedes hablar en espaniol hahha |
| 02:21.21 | reliver | roxville can you please try xffm ? |
| 02:22.03 | roxville | i'm not an engine repair guy either... but i have noticed differences with wm's in different distros |
| 02:22.42 | reliver | yes, so ? |
| 02:23.00 | Muta | wm == womans? jijiji |
| 02:23.01 | roxville | when i saw elive, i jumped right on it, coz it was just whet i'd been looking for! e and debian! |
| 02:23.23 | Muta | yeah i also agree with that |
| 02:23.28 | reliver | yes, you like debian, i don't. |
| 02:23.32 | Muta | the 2 best things that i have used |
| 02:23.40 | reliver | but why not compare it with windows ? |
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| 02:24.01 | reliver | after all, they are competing for the same market, aren't they ? |
| 02:24.07 | roxville | because it sends shivers down my spine |
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| 02:24.25 | reliver | yes, because you attach your emotions to things. |
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| 02:24.37 | reliver | roxville can you please try xffm ? |
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| 02:25.33 | reliver | hola quidam- :-) |
| 02:25.45 | quidam- | hola reliver :P |
| 02:25.46 | reliver | como te sientes ? :-) |
| 02:26.19 | quidam- | bien, estoy intentando diseñar una encuesta :) |
| 02:26.31 | Muta | ese ninio de 15 anios |
| 02:26.36 | Muta | haha che culero no sabia qe tenias 15 anios |
| 02:26.43 | Muta | eres un escuincle mocoso xD |
| 02:27.04 | quidam- | Muta a quien te refieres??? |
| 02:27.15 | Muta | tu w |
| 02:27.19 | Muta | no tienes 15 anios w? |
| 02:27.23 | quidam- | no |
| 02:27.26 | quidam- | :S |
| 02:27.30 | Muta | ah no |
| 02:27.34 | Muta | tu tienes 18 vdd |
| 02:27.40 | quidam- | sip |
| 02:27.41 | Muta | piche mocoso! haha |
| 02:27.42 | quidam- | :P |
| 02:27.49 | Muta | haha |
| 02:27.54 | quidam- | pss soy un mocoso inteligente |
| 02:27.55 | quidam- | xD |
| 02:27.56 | Muta | http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Ppl <-- ahi dice eso |
| 02:28.08 | Muta | eres un ñoño xD |
| 02:28.09 | roxville | ok, i installed xffm4 and opened it...what? |
| 02:28.34 | roxville | quidam-, awesome job with the translation dude!! |
| 02:28.51 | reliver | muta, sinplomo tiene 15 anos. |
| 02:29.05 | Muta | sips..apenas me di cuenta en la pag jiji |
| 02:29.07 | quidam- | apt x en es awesome job with the translation dude |
| 02:29.08 | roxville | 15 assholes? good lord! |
| 02:29.54 | quidam- | roxville well i dont understand so good but thanks xD |
| 02:30.05 | roxville | :) |
| 02:30.18 | reliver | yes, quidam's translations are great. |
| 02:30.57 | roxville | apt x en es well quidam- you did a good job and you needed to know that you did :) |
| 02:31.18 | reliver | una encuesta para oque, quidam- ? |
| 02:31.24 | Muta | haha :p bueno ahi le falta aglo de coherencia pero ta bien |
| 02:31.36 | roxville | reliver ok, i installed xffm4 and opened it...what? |
| 02:32.00 | reliver | do you like it ? |
| 02:32.08 | quidam- | reliver es para presentar un proyecto para hacer que los cyber cafes de la ciudad usen linux |
| 02:32.21 | Muta | :o en mx si hay de esas cosas |
| 02:32.23 | roxville | yeah... i've used it before.. in xfce |
| 02:32.31 | Muta | cybers con linux y te cobran mas barato jiji |
| 02:32.41 | reliver | i think it is much more comprehensive and practical then xfe and evidence, and does not crash all the time like evidence |
| 02:32.43 | quidam- | Muta algunas veces es dificil traducir al español y hacer que tenga coherencia ;) |
| 02:32.59 | Muta | sips bastante.. y tmb traducir al ingles y qe tnga coherencia |
| 02:33.10 | Muta | hace rato me la taba pelando con reliver..haha no podiamos xplicarnos haha |
| 02:33.27 | quidam- | jajajajaja |
| 02:33.35 | reliver | bien, quidam :-) |
| 02:33.41 | roxville | evidence is gaining ground on me every day... there are som many things included that just aren't there in other file managers |
| 02:34.01 | roxville | and i think thana chose fxe coz it's so fast |
| 02:34.15 | reliver | do you like xfe, roxville ? |
| 02:34.24 | quidam- | oye reliver en esta pagina seria bueno agregar los nombres y no solo los nicks --> http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Ppl |
| 02:34.48 | reliver | no, no los nombres; |
| 02:34.56 | Muta | ah sips.. chekala quidman.. hoy fue un pre-posting.. con el tiempo agregaremos y modificaremos entre todos el wiki |
| 02:35.00 | roxville | well xffm4 looks better |
| 02:35.02 | Muta | porqe los nombres no? |
| 02:35.20 | reliver | al contrario, seria so interessante escribir cosas del canal ali, describir estes caracteres unicos :-) |
| 02:35.32 | reliver | ahora es so una lista burocratica ... |
| 02:35.35 | Muta | estos! no estes :P |
| 02:35.56 | reliver | porque tem que ser um poco protejidos. |
| 02:36.04 | Muta | una lista burocratica? haha este wy de cual fuma jiji :P.. de sus platicas puedo hacer una cancion jiji |
| 02:36.12 | Muta | haha :) |
| 02:36.17 | reliver | :-) |
| 02:36.30 | quidam- | reliver bueno tienes razon |
| 02:36.38 | reliver | si, falta vida en esta pagina, muta :-) |
| 02:36.42 | reliver | si. |
| 02:36.53 | Muta | le pondremos colores y cosas asi pero luego luego |
| 02:37.12 | Muta | y algunas frases como #/etc/init.d/coffemaker start |
| 02:37.13 | Muta | jiji |
| 02:37.24 | reliver | yo pensei que muta haria una pagina describiendo los caracteres aqui, en todas colores exajeradas, quidam- :-) |
| 02:37.49 | Muta | haha esqe soy malo pa los colores y esas cosas..necesito pensarlo y luego hacerlo haha |
| 02:37.50 | reliver | quidam-, estas en Elive ? |
| 02:38.14 | quidam- | sip |
| 02:38.19 | reliver | si, sei que lo vas a hacer mejor, Muta :-) |
| 02:38.39 | reliver | bien, quieres ver se te gusta xffm ? |
| 02:39.03 | quidam- | sip |
| 02:39.27 | reliver | super. te gusta evidence y xfe ? |
| 02:40.00 | quidam- | evidence me parece un poco fastidioso |
| 02:40.08 | quidam- | supongo que prefiero xfe |
| 02:40.24 | reliver | exactamente, faltan muchas funciones tambien, y quita a cada momento. |
| 02:40.45 | reliver | si, ahora tenta xffm, y teras una revelacion :-) |
| 02:41.02 | reliver | tambien, tenta eso, quidam-: http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Screenshotmovies |
| 02:41.39 | quidam- | dejame ver |
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| 02:45.49 | roxville | reliver, wink is not in the repo... what is the exact name? |
| 02:46.54 | reliver | oh, do you use http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Sources ? |
| 02:48.27 | Mutacion | bal bal |
| 02:48.39 | quidam- | oye quien hizo la traducción al catalan del wiki home??? |
| 02:49.03 | eshep | must eat |
| 02:49.32 | eshep | and maybe a "nooner" if im lucky enough |
| 02:50.30 | reliver | good, eshep :-) |
| 02:51.32 | roxville | lol |
| 02:52.03 | reliver | roxville, it is in http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/, distribution:elive, sections:main efl elive |
| 02:53.39 | roxville | reliver, i have that repo enabled, but wink is not there |
| 02:54.06 | reliver | oh, i can send it to you. |
| 02:54.36 | Mutacion | jetiar == murmir == sleep |
| 02:55.03 | roxville | good night muta |
| 02:55.12 | quidam- | ciao Mutacion |
| 02:55.19 | Mutacion | apt_ bye |
| 02:55.24 | Mutacion | zalep roxville |
| 02:55.27 | Mutacion | nos emos quidman |
| 02:55.31 | Mutacion | bytes reliver |
| 02:56.16 | reliver | i don't see it in /var/cache/apt/archive, roxville, is it already installed from the CD ? |
| 02:56.19 | reliver | can you call it ? |
| 02:56.42 | reliver | duerma bien, mutacion :-) |
| 03:04.10 | roxville | reliver, if it was installed from the CD it would still show up in apt-cache or synaptic |
| 03:13.03 | reliver | i'm lost here, roxville, i don't find the deb on my system. |
| 03:13.20 | reliver | hopefully, thanatermesis will help with this tomorrow ... |
| 03:13.35 | roxville | ok |
| 03:13.51 | roxville | was it thana that mentioned wink to you? |
| 03:14.03 | roxville | or how did you hear about it? |
| 03:15.08 | reliver | yes, roxville. |
| 03:16.57 | roxville | well then i think you should talk to him about it, yes |
| 03:17.44 | reliver | sure, or would you like to ask him ? |
| 03:18.28 | reliver | i'm not sure i am around tomorrow. |
| 03:18.41 | roxville | ok, sure! |
| 03:19.08 | reliver | great :-) |
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| 03:30.28 | roxville | eshep, did you get entrance to change theme yet? |
| 03:30.28 | elive-bot | roxville: for change e17 themes, select one with the command "apt-cache search enlightenment 17 themes", install one and only copy with this line: "cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes" and it will work |
| 03:30.35 | roxville | oh damn he's at lunch |
| 03:30.54 | roxville | hi dingy, how'd your install go? |
| 03:31.05 | roxville | i waited for a bit, but i had to go to bed |
| 03:32.14 | Dingy | well, it's running now |
| 03:32.18 | Dingy | so I can't complain |
| 03:32.43 | roxville | good! |
| 03:32.48 | Dingy | actually I have no major issues at this point |
| 03:32.53 | roxville | did you do an upgrade? |
| 03:32.59 | Dingy | so I'm really pleased |
| 03:32.59 | Dingy | yeah |
| 03:33.38 | roxville | great! like it so far? are you new to e or have you used it before? |
| 03:33.56 | Dingy | well, I have never really used it before |
| 03:34.02 | roxville | the answer is no, if i remember correctly |
| 03:34.06 | Dingy | I was playing around with it in my former setup |
| 03:34.15 | Dingy | but couldn't make it work properly |
| 03:34.19 | roxville | which was? |
| 03:34.26 | Dingy | ubuntu |
| 03:34.30 | roxville | yeah :) |
| 03:34.36 | roxville | i was there too :) |
| 03:35.28 | roxville | so when i saw elive, it was... like seeing jesus! lol |
| 03:35.46 | reliver | hello Dingy, congratulations :-) |
| 03:35.58 | reliver | are you going to join the club ? |
| 03:36.14 | Dingy | one feature though I miss is some kinda of panel to choose running programs, rather than the click menu |
| 03:36.35 | reliver | exactly, me too, dingy. |
| 03:36.45 | reliver | a taskbar, right ? |
| 03:36.50 | roxville | yeah... the gnome-syndrome... |
| 03:36.52 | Dingy | something like that |
| 03:37.02 | Dingy | well, windows syndrome really |
| 03:37.25 | reliver | it's the productivity for simple users syndrome :-) |
| 03:37.28 | roxville | yeah, i guess |
| 03:37.43 | Dingy | well, it's really more for my girlfriend, I can live with engage |
| 03:38.09 | reliver | Dingy, would you like to write something about your experience or wishes on the wiki ? |
| 03:38.35 | roxville | but you have all the apps right there in a menu if you right-click on the desktop! that's in e17 |
| 03:38.38 | Dingy | but nonetheless, I have gone so far that I now am trying to get e17 to work with gnome in some way or another |
| 03:38.49 | Dingy | that is true |
| 03:39.12 | Dingy | but to be honest, I don't find it that convenient |
| 03:39.28 | roxville | anyway, there are 2 pnales that work... but suspect that you have to install gnome to get them to work PROPERLY |
| 03:39.32 | Dingy | reliver, I don't see why not |
| 03:39.51 | Dingy | what 2 paneles? |
| 03:40.03 | roxville | perlpanel and pypanel |
| 03:40.40 | roxville | but the gnome menu won't work in perlpanel...coz gnome is not installed |
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| 03:41.15 | roxville | otherwise it works fine..gtk2 themes and all |
| 03:41.20 | reliver | ok, can you please go to the registration at http://club.elivecd.org ? |
| 03:41.33 | Dingy | well, I tried playing with gnome-panel yesterday but having it run after e17 stars causes it to not show the programs running |
| 03:43.06 | Dingy | reliver, I need to pay money through paypal to use it? |
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| 03:43.34 | reliver | no, Dingy, would you like to send Elive something to support it's development ? |
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| 03:43.51 | Dingy | I have no creditcard |
| 03:43.54 | Elive_user3 | hello? |
| 03:43.55 | Dingy | otherwise I probably would |
| 03:44.09 | reliver | hello Elive_user3 :-) |
| 03:44.19 | reliver | welcome to Elive world :-) |
| 03:44.26 | roxville | hello Elive_user3 |
| 03:44.33 | Elive_user3 | thanks |
| 03:44.43 | roxville | bellsouth...where from? |
| 03:44.46 | reliver | you do not need a creditcard, if you want to donate it is easy through opening a paypal account. |
| 03:44.51 | Elive_user3 | tired of windows |
| 03:45.18 | reliver | great, Elive_user3, aren't we all ? :-) |
| 03:45.28 | Elive_user3 | from now on i am running linux or unix |
| 03:45.52 | reliver | freebsd has a great desktop offering, Elive_user2. |
| 03:46.06 | roxville | Elive_user3, where in the us are you? i'm in SC |
| 03:46.09 | reliver | but something like Elive is easier for simple users. |
| 03:46.31 | Elive_user3 | i am in ga |
| 03:46.33 | Elive_user3 | atl |
| 03:46.50 | roxville | 7h car ride... i know |
| 03:47.01 | roxville | i'm in chas, sc |
| 03:47.06 | Elive_user3 | been here before? |
| 03:47.16 | roxville | me? |
| 03:47.30 | Elive_user3 | uh huh |
| 03:47.30 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.59 | reliver | been in ga, atl, roxville ? |
| 03:48.17 | roxville | yeah... briefly |
| 03:48.28 | roxville | it's atl, ga reliver |
| 03:48.36 | reliver | aha. |
| 03:48.38 | roxville | atlanta, georgia |
| 03:48.43 | reliver | i never was in the us. |
| 03:48.47 | Elive_user3 | i was wonderin, does anybody know any developments on mac osx x86? |
| 03:49.03 | reliver | Elive_user3, is Elive easy for you ? |
| 03:49.19 | reliver | yes, ready in 2 years. |
| 03:49.37 | roxville | i have a red-tape copy that i haven't been able to burn yet... i don't have a dvd burner |
| 03:49.47 | roxville | and i have no idea if it works |
| 03:50.21 | roxville | reliver, what is ready in 2 yrs? |
| 03:50.23 | Elive_user3 | yeah, i have been using debian for a while so I am used to the functionalities |
| 03:50.29 | reliver | Elive_user3, please write in the line where you write here: /nick a-nickname-you-can-choose |
| 03:51.28 | roxville | how about... atlanta-bubba? |
| 03:51.38 | roxville | :) |
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| 03:51.46 | Grodly | hello |
| 03:51.46 | Elive_user3 | funny |
| 03:51.55 | reliver | hello grodly :-) |
| 03:51.59 | Grodly | I can't seem to get the network configured |
| 03:52.05 | Elive_user3 | hey grodly |
| 03:52.14 | reliver | did you find how to change entrance welcome message, grodly ? |
| 03:52.19 | Grodly | reliver, not yet |
| 03:52.31 | Grodly | long story made short: |
| 03:52.35 | reliver | i lost connectivity before i could tell you: |
| 03:52.43 | Grodly | you first |
| 03:52.45 | reliver | please ask in the channel #e |
| 03:52.50 | Grodly | oh |
| 03:53.24 | reliver | your network does not work ? |
| 03:53.37 | Grodly | exactly |
| 03:53.43 | reliver | there are errors in dpkg-reconfigure ethconf, in my opinion. |
| 03:53.44 | Grodly | I edited interfaces |
| 03:53.57 | reliver | but i have no idea about networks ... |
| 03:54.09 | reliver | you can't connect to the internet ? |
| 03:54.13 | roxville | Elive_user3, please change your nick! it's horrible to type! lol |
| 03:54.21 | reliver | or do you have a home network ? |
| 03:54.21 | Grodly | reliver, nope |
| 03:54.29 | Grodly | and nope |
| 03:54.42 | reliver | how do you want to connect to the internet ? |
| 03:54.57 | Grodly | I have a residential gateway that distributes IPS to my computers but they aren't networked together |
| 03:55.17 | Elive_user3 | better? |
| 03:55.26 | roxville | lol, no |
| 03:55.28 | reliver | you connect through a router, grodly ? |
| 03:55.39 | billybob | there we go |
| 03:55.44 | billybob | better? |
| 03:55.44 | reliver | perfect, billybob :-) |
| 03:55.45 | roxville | do this: /nick yournewnick |
| 03:55.55 | roxville | there!! billybob !! |
| 03:55.59 | billybob | don't ask me why |
| 03:56.12 | roxville | i won't... ok, why? |
| 03:56.38 | billybob | first name that came to my head roxville |
| 03:56.50 | Grodly | reliver, it goes like this: local adsl gives me a static IP --> gateway connects to that and --> distributes IPs to devices connected to a small switch |
| 03:56.54 | roxville | prob is, that ppl that aren't southern, or at least livinmg here, won't understand |
| 03:57.00 | reliver | billybob, do you feel good in Elive ? |
| 03:57.26 | billybob | whaddaya mean? |
| 03:57.34 | reliver | is it working for ya ? |
| 03:57.35 | billybob | don't understand the question |
| 03:57.42 | billybob | o yeah |
| 03:57.43 | roxville | does it make you feel sexy? |
| 03:57.43 | reliver | sir ? :-) |
| 03:58.07 | billybob | uhhhhhh........... |
| 03:58.14 | billybob | i guess so....... |
| 03:58.14 | roxville | LOL |
| 03:58.16 | Grodly | the box I'm using now is a laptop running sourcemange gnu/linux and configuring the network was easy |
| 03:58.28 | roxville | good, then elive is for you! |
| 03:58.29 | reliver | you connect through a router, grodly ? |
| 03:58.37 | Grodly | reliver: basically |
| 03:58.40 | Grodly | yeah |
| 03:59.08 | roxville | i guess what he mean was: do you feel comfortable using elive so far? |
| 03:59.20 | billybob | yeah |
| 03:59.24 | billybob | more stability |
| 03:59.36 | billybob | no more blue screen of death |
| 03:59.48 | roxville | yep, sure is better than pumping e17 into ubuntu |
| 03:59.50 | billybob | i am able to type code and fix things myself |
| 03:59.57 | billybob | that too |
| 04:00.08 | Grodly | such useful tools as networkconf and mcp do not appear to have been installed with debian |
| 04:00.33 | reliver | does the router use dhcp ? |
| 04:00.41 | Grodly | it can |
| 04:01.02 | reliver | did you try to get an ip automatically through dhcp ? |
| 04:01.05 | billybob | don't have to worry about the viruses of the windows world |
| 04:01.09 | Grodly | reliver, yes |
| 04:01.11 | billybob | this is the life |
| 04:01.19 | Grodly | first time around I config like I did on this machine |
| 04:01.22 | roxville | here's a pretty good config page: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=enlightenment-devel&m=111054507031989&w=2 |
| 04:01.39 | reliver | what is in your /etc/hosts ? |
| 04:02.11 | Grodly | the usual crap and the relevent line: |
| 04:02.12 | roxville | yeah billybob , that is a MAJOR benefit |
| 04:02.24 | Grodly | 192.168.1.2 elpenor.domain elpenor |
| 04:03.07 | billybob | also, i like the fact of working in the backend |
| 04:03.26 | reliver | 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 04:03.29 | Grodly | I've tried a static configuration following the instructions here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html |
| 04:03.30 | billybob | makes you appreciate your computer more |
| 04:03.33 | reliver | do you have that first line ? |
| 04:03.45 | Grodly | reliver, == the usual crap. Or, yes, I do |
| 04:03.49 | billybob | all windows is is point and click, point and click |
| 04:03.55 | roxville | yeah billybob , you're right about that |
| 04:03.59 | reliver | nothing else on that 127 line ? |
| 04:04.02 | Grodly | err, reliver 127.etc == the usual crap |
| 04:04.05 | Grodly | nope |
| 04:04.12 | reliver | oh, good. |
| 04:04.30 | billybob | and if you do somethin wrong, you have to reinstall the entire operating system |
| 04:04.34 | roxville | billybob, if you have questions, or even tricks or tips you want to share, pls visit the wiki |
| 04:04.39 | reliver | that, i am afraid, is all i know about network config ... |
| 04:04.43 | Grodly | sigh |
| 04:05.00 | reliver | your lines look good. |
| 04:05.04 | billybob | ok |
| 04:05.06 | billybob | sure |
| 04:05.10 | roxville | http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage |
| 04:05.10 | billybob | no prob bob |
| 04:05.17 | roxville | lol |
| 04:05.17 | Grodly | I was able to walk a friend through the dynamic config over the phone (I convinced her to install linux to circumvent some security crap at her school) |
| 04:05.36 | billybob | i am gonna go for now though |
| 04:05.40 | reliver | grodly, would you like to ask in #morphix ? |
| 04:05.42 | billybob | i got school in the mornin |
| 04:05.52 | Grodly | but I can't get it working at home, maybe I'll go with gentoo instead... I'm more comfortable with source based anyway |
| 04:05.54 | roxville | what i mean billybob , is that this distro NEEDS input from everyday users on what can be improved |
| 04:06.11 | Grodly | reliver, I may if I can't figure it out in the next 30 min or so |
| 04:06.11 | roxville | ok billybob sleep tight, see ya next time |
| 04:06.17 | reliver | or in #networking, grodly ? |
| 04:06.41 | billybob | i'll be on tommorrow |
| 04:06.44 | billybob | take carte |
| 04:06.48 | Grodly | again, I may. I thought perhaps it was specific to elive and that people here would know |
| 04:06.51 | billybob | care* |
| 04:06.53 | roxville | awrighty, see ya then! :) |
| 04:06.56 | reliver | great, billybob, see ya :-) |
| 04:07.32 | reliver | it may be specific, please report back if you find out, grodly. |
| 04:07.59 | Grodly | roxville, re: input from users: what happened to mcp and networkconf? they exist on the liveCD but once installed they are gone, however they still have menu entries. reliver: will do |
| 04:08.33 | roxville | yeah, thana is working on that... |
| 04:08.46 | Grodly | are e_modules and e_utils included by default with elive? roxville, OK |
| 04:08.48 | roxville | that panel is goooone after installing |
| 04:08.48 | reliver | sounds like a bug, grodly, we are aquiring a new server and plan to install a bug tracking system there, |
| 04:09.01 | reliver | as soon as our finance allow. |
| 04:09.12 | roxville | Grodly, a cool app to install is : erme |
| 04:09.41 | roxville | enlightenment_remote made easy |
| 04:09.42 | reliver | as soon as our finances allow. |
| 04:10.12 | reliver | is erme configuring the network, roxville ? |
| 04:10.22 | roxville | nope |
| 04:10.33 | Grodly | roxville, yeah, I've played with it on this box. Though these days I run fluxbox since this is supposed to be a work machine |
| 04:10.38 | roxville | he asked about the e modules |
| 04:10.59 | reliver | roxville, would you mind listing erme on http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Software ? |
| 04:11.24 | roxville | reliver, thana wanted us to test it first |
| 04:11.38 | reliver | ok, no problem. |
| 04:11.57 | roxville | brb |
| 04:12.45 | reliver | Dingy, are you still with us ? |
| 04:12.50 | Grodly | roxville, it works well. it can only assign 1 background at the moment, but that's the only major limitation. And it's ugly. Which is disapointing given that the purpose of enlightenment is at least 1/3rd eyecandy |
| 04:12.55 | Dingy | sorry |
| 04:13.00 | Dingy | trying to solve the panel thing |
| 04:13.12 | reliver | good :-) |
| 04:13.56 | reliver | would you just like to access the wiki or are you thinking about supporting Elive too ? |
| 04:15.38 | Dingy | well I had a look at your paypal link |
| 04:15.41 | Dingy | but it's en french |
| 04:15.45 | Dingy | in |
| 04:20.09 | Grodly | cdrom drives use a SCSI interface, right? |
| 04:20.26 | reliver | you are right, thanks for alerting us to that, Dingy. |
| 04:21.18 | Dingy | :) |
| 04:22.44 | reliver | i don't know, Dingy: http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=CDrom |
| 04:23.06 | reliver | Dingy, would you like to signup to the wiki in the mean time ? |
| 04:23.22 | Grodly | but according to the auto generated fstab there should be a special device /dev/cdrom to mount at /cdrom |
| 04:23.26 | Grodly | but there isn't |
| 04:24.34 | Dingy | Grodly |
| 04:24.40 | Dingy | try su |
| 04:24.59 | Dingy | then: eject /dev/hdc |
| 04:25.22 | Dingy | see if the cdrom jumps out |
| 04:25.26 | Grodly | sweet |
| 04:25.27 | Dingy | brb |
| 04:25.28 | Dingy | eat |
| 04:25.42 | Grodly | but, where is the mount point? |
| 04:26.47 | roxville | /dev/hdc /cdrom udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 04:26.55 | Grodly | ok |
| 04:26.55 | Grodly | done |
| 04:26.57 | Grodly | thanks |
| 04:26.58 | roxville | that's what it should look like |
| 04:27.27 | Grodly | roxville, it looks like this: |
| 04:27.41 | Grodly | /dev/cdrom /cdrom auto ro, user, noauto 0 0 |
| 04:27.59 | Grodly | I'll change it |
| 04:28.09 | roxville | yeah, you need to change it to what i pasted |
| 04:28.10 | Grodly | mount /dev/hdc /cdrom works fine, though |
| 04:28.16 | Grodly | will do |
| 04:28.30 | roxville | it's a bug in the install script |
| 04:28.39 | roxville | i think |
| 04:28.41 | roxville | :) |
| 04:28.46 | Grodly | there seem to be a few of those :-) |
| 04:28.51 | roxville | yep |
| 04:29.14 | roxville | but we're on thana's ass all the time... poor guy |
| 04:30.51 | Grodly | a suggestion: the default configuration for evidence should include the shelf, that thing is useful |
| 04:32.04 | reliver | grodly, would you like to add this to the wiki wishlist ? |
| 04:32.11 | roxville | yeah, i'll remember that... you're right, it is. |
| 04:32.22 | roxville | if you see thana, pls tell him |
| 04:32.42 | roxville | even if he is up to his ears in stuff, he still needs the input |
| 04:32.45 | reliver | no, better write it to the list. |
| 04:33.00 | roxville | yep, that even better! |
| 04:33.05 | reliver | yes :-) |
| 04:33.09 | roxville | the wishlist |
| 04:35.03 | Grodly | is it possible to chroot into the elive cd and grab the networkconf script? |
| 04:35.42 | roxville | i have to go to bed, my dauther keeps waking up |
| 04:35.49 | Grodly | good night |
| 04:35.51 | roxville | good luck Grodly ! |
| 04:35.57 | Grodly | thanks |
| 04:36.00 | roxville | sorry i can't stay |
| 04:36.04 | Grodly | it's OK |
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| 04:39.41 | Dingy | sorry I left halfway through the explanation Grodly |
| 04:39.58 | Grodly | no prob, I got it sorted out |
| 04:40.06 | Grodly | now I've another question or 3 |
| 04:40.24 | Dingy | well |
| 04:40.29 | Grodly | maybe |
| 04:40.31 | Dingy | try me and I'll see if I can help |
| 04:40.45 | Grodly | OK, let me try something first and if it doesn't work ... :-) |
| 04:41.35 | Dingy | reliver, how do I sign up for the wiki? |
| 04:42.36 | Grodly | didn't work |
| 04:43.20 | Grodly | OK I want to grab the networkconf script that is on the cd since I can't seem to manually configure either a static or dynamic setup (even though I've done both with different distros on this network in the past) |
| 04:43.56 | Grodly | do I have to boot the cd, mount the hardrive and copy it that way or can I copy it direct from the cd? |
| 04:44.53 | Dingy | does it detect your network card? |
| 04:45.05 | Grodly | it seemed to |
| 04:45.38 | Dingy | try ifconfig |
| 04:45.51 | Grodly | I did. I'll do it again |
| 04:46.10 | quidam- | ciao a todos |
| 04:46.12 | Grodly | /etc/sysconfig/netcard contains the proper info, btw |
| 04:48.07 | Grodly | ifconfig shows eth0 and lo eth0 has the proper address and mask and claims to be up and running : UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:2500 Metric:1 |
| 04:48.35 | Grodly | hmm, but Bcast is wrong |
| 04:50.59 | Dingy | try dpkg-reconfigure ethconf |
| 04:51.33 | Dingy | sorry |
| 04:51.36 | Dingy | try dpkg-reconfigure etherconf |
| 04:52.52 | Grodly | that was the command I've been looking for for the last several hours! |
| 04:53.03 | Grodly | since manual configuration has failed me |
| 04:53.04 | Grodly | thank you |
| 04:53.08 | Grodly | THANK YOU |
| 04:54.10 | reliver | Dingy, http://club.elivecd.org, top righ corner |
| 04:55.00 | reliver | re: dpkg-reconfigure etherconf, have a look in /etc/hosts after that, it keeps adding a wrong line in mine. |
| 04:58.52 | Dingy | passcode? |
| 05:00.33 | reliver | can you see me in the other window, Dingy ? |
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| 05:02.08 | reliver | welcome to the Elive Club wiki, Dingy :-) |
| 05:02.17 | reliver | grodly, is it working ? |
| 05:02.24 | Grodly | yeah |
| 05:02.56 | reliver | great, you rebooted, right ? |
| 05:02.58 | Dingy | good:) |
| 05:03.04 | Grodly | I'm running apt-get update and then I guess I'll use synaptic to upgrade stuff... reliver no |
| 05:03.10 | Grodly | ifdown |
| 05:03.15 | Grodly | ifup |
| 05:03.20 | reliver | ah. |
| 05:03.38 | reliver | and your /etc/hosts ? |
| 05:03.48 | Grodly | looks fine |
| 05:04.08 | Grodly | I keep typing on the wrong keyboard |
| 05:04.54 | reliver | <Dingy> I'll try to contribute something meaningful:) |
| 05:05.07 | reliver | great :-) http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Elive+Club |
| 05:05.23 | reliver | http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Edit |
| 05:05.58 | Grodly | oh, there is an erme package in the elive section |
| 05:06.15 | reliver | yes, he wanted us to try it. |
| 05:07.07 | Grodly | I don't have a problem with enligtenment_remote but I think a lot of people will be glad he made it |
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| 05:10.47 | reliver | i added your tip to http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Network, grodly, thanks. |
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| 05:12.18 | Grodly | arrgh |
| 05:12.21 | reliver | grodly, dist-upgrade is better: |
| 05:12.23 | reliver | http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Update |
| 05:12.33 | Grodly | reliver OK |
| 05:12.43 | reliver | what happened ? |
| 05:12.54 | Grodly | which tip? ... I don't know, I keep getting reset tonight |
| 05:13.05 | reliver | ifdown, ifup :-) |
| 05:13.27 | reliver | reset ? mainboard reset ? |
| 05:13.57 | Grodly | oh, you mean with the upgrade, sorry, thought you were talking about my wacky connection to freenode |
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| 05:15.38 | reliver | i see. |
| 05:15.47 | Grodly | reliver, you might want to make explicit: |
| 05:15.48 | reliver | freenode has problems these days. |
| 05:15.59 | Grodly | ifdown device_name |
| 05:16.08 | Grodly | configure stuff |
| 05:16.13 | Grodly | ifup device_name |
| 05:16.30 | reliver | ah, eth0 ? |
| 05:16.34 | Grodly | usually |
| 05:17.02 | reliver | so that's not optional, right ? |
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| 05:20.56 | Grodly | exit |
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| 05:21.25 | reliver | entry :-) |
| 05:21.29 | Grodly | well, I need to get some real work done |
| 05:21.32 | Grodly | heh :-) |
| 05:21.37 | reliver | ok. |
| 05:21.40 | Grodly | I have classes in a few hours |
| 05:21.50 | reliver | oh... |
| 05:22.03 | Grodly | it is 1:22 am here... weekends are too short |
| 05:22.12 | reliver | life too :-) |
| 05:22.17 | Grodly | true |
| 05:22.36 | reliver | yes, have good night, and a good day tomorrow :-) |
| 05:29.32 | coagen | you know whats retarded |
| 05:29.40 | coagen | i cant remember how to change the time |
| 05:29.44 | coagen | or set the time zone |
| 05:29.45 | coagen | bah |
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| 05:43.22 | reliver | coagen ? |
| 05:44.38 | reliver | http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Configure |
| 06:14.25 | coagen | reliver: thanks |
| 06:14.34 | reliver | sure :-) |
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| 06:36.43 | coagen | hey reliver |
| 06:36.54 | coagen | i still cant get cd's to burn |
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| 06:47.20 | sHR00m | hi coagen |
| 06:47.32 | sHR00m | what tool do you use? |
| 06:47.34 | coagen | yo |
| 06:47.41 | coagen | gnomebaker |
| 06:47.51 | sHR00m | i see and whats the problem? |
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| 06:50.10 | coagen | cdrecord: Cannot allocate memory. Cannot get SCSI I/O buffer. |
| 06:50.21 | coagen | i get that error every time |
| 06:50.23 | sHR00m | ah.. |
| 06:50.33 | sHR00m | what about k3b? |
| 06:50.38 | sHR00m | its quite good |
| 06:51.15 | coagen | you are right it is |
| 06:51.27 | coagen | wonder how much crap i'd have to install to use it |
| 06:51.44 | sHR00m | i think gnomebaker could use the old scsi layer |
| 06:52.11 | sHR00m | coagen, didnt apt-get update && apt-get install k3b work? |
| 06:52.17 | coagen | 17 new packages and 80 megs bah |
| 06:52.21 | sHR00m | ah hehe |
| 06:52.25 | sHR00m | yes, kde libs |
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| 06:52.35 | sHR00m | whats good too is nerolinux |
| 06:52.37 | coagen | yeah i dont want that crap on my box |
| 06:52.38 | coagen | haha |
| 06:52.42 | coagen | nerolinux? |
| 06:52.44 | sHR00m | but ofcourse its not free ;) |
| 06:52.49 | coagen | figures |
| 06:52.53 | coagen | hmmm |
| 06:53.02 | sHR00m | yes, nero users can download a copy free |
| 06:53.34 | eshep | reliver, ya here? |
| 06:53.54 | sHR00m | hm ;) |
| 06:54.06 | coagen | :\ |
| 06:54.21 | sHR00m | you have a mail address? |
| 06:54.23 | coagen | firewall i think |
| 06:54.28 | coagen | coagen@gmail.com |
| 06:54.34 | coagen | thx :) |
| 06:55.01 | sHR00m | if you can burn with k3b and dont with gnomesomething |
| 06:55.04 | sHR00m | dont use it |
| 06:55.22 | sHR00m | years before there was done a dirty hack. ide way emulated to scsi to allow burning |
| 06:55.33 | sHR00m | that isnt needed anymore and the new way is faster |
| 06:55.43 | coagen | yes i am that old you know :P |
| 06:55.51 | eshep | sHR00m, gnomebaker wont work right after hd install |
| 06:55.53 | sHR00m | ok, didnt know :P |
| 06:56.06 | coagen | word |
| 06:56.16 | coagen | eshep: have you got it working? |
| 06:56.34 | eshep | coagen, just remove && install |
| 06:56.43 | eshep | works like a champ |
| 06:57.04 | eshep | guess what else i got working finally |
| 06:57.06 | coagen | no shit? |
| 06:57.07 | coagen | hahaha |
| 06:57.15 | eshep | no shit |
| 06:57.53 | eshep | entrance theme change has been accomplished |
| 06:58.04 | eshep | woohoo! |
| 06:58.07 | sHR00m | there should be an apt-get remove && install in the hd-install script :) |
| 06:58.25 | sHR00m | eshep, where are themes? |
| 06:58.26 | coagen | eshep: hell yeah which one did you settle on? |
| 06:58.41 | eshep | sHR00m, just remember to add the lines before you run it, haha |
| 06:58.43 | coagen | sHR00m: in /usr/share/entrance i think |
| 06:59.05 | eshep | sHR00m, themes are in the repos |
| 06:59.09 | sHR00m | coagen, and where i do get themes? |
| 06:59.11 | sHR00m | ah cool |
| 06:59.22 | eshep | coagen, i use gnomebaker |
| 06:59.33 | sHR00m | last time they werent there for entrance |
| 06:59.36 | coagen | i just reinstalled it |
| 06:59.40 | coagen | lets see here... |
| 07:00.12 | coagen | fack |
| 07:00.17 | coagen | failed |
| 07:00.18 | coagen | bah |
| 07:00.34 | sHR00m | well.. try nero linux ;) |
| 07:01.54 | sHR00m | coagen, what could work is to specify the right device |
| 07:02.00 | sHR00m | but an scsi error sounds old |
| 07:02.02 | eshep | coagen, not reinstall. apt-get remove gnomebaker -y && apt-get install gnomebaker -y |
| 07:02.24 | eshep | oh yeah! |
| 07:02.42 | eshep | ln -s /dev/hdc /cdrom |
| 07:02.44 | coagen | sHR00m: i will :) as soon as i get it hehe |
| 07:02.50 | eshep | and |
| 07:02.54 | eshep | ln -s /dev/hdc /dvd |
| 07:03.00 | sHR00m | eshep, PATSCH |
| 07:03.03 | sHR00m | nononono |
| 07:03.12 | sHR00m | ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom |
| 07:03.13 | sHR00m | or not? |
| 07:03.28 | sHR00m | and mounting these devicec to /cdrom or /dvd |
| 07:03.29 | coagen | i did all that symlink stuff |
| 07:03.36 | eshep | not /dev/cdrom |
| 07:03.40 | eshep | just /cdrom |
| 07:03.45 | coagen | maybe i need to chmod the dirs? |
| 07:03.58 | sHR00m | eshep, never heard of. how should i mount it? |
| 07:04.09 | eshep | sHR00m, the themes are at get-e.org |
| 07:04.33 | sHR00m | no... if you link the device to /cdrom, how will it be mounted? |
| 07:04.36 | coagen | the themes are already on your box |
| 07:04.43 | eshep | sHR00m, you can right click on /cdrom in evidence if you want |
| 07:05.01 | sHR00m | you have linked so? this is nonstandard.. |
| 07:05.07 | eshep | sHR00m, and what coagen said |
| 07:05.14 | coagen | just delete the themes folder in .e/e/ |
| 07:05.24 | sHR00m | coagen, i have. |
| 07:05.43 | coagen | and symlink it to /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes |
| 07:05.54 | sHR00m | coagen, i have this too |
| 07:05.56 | coagen | ... |
| 07:05.57 | sHR00m | but what about entrance themes |
| 07:05.58 | coagen | wtf |
| 07:06.04 | coagen | oh |
| 07:06.09 | eshep | edit your /usr/share/entrance/build_config.sh |
| 07:06.32 | coagen | look in /usr/share/entrance/themes |
| 07:06.59 | eshep | set the DB location to /etc/entrance_config.cfg |
| 07:07.27 | eshep | then just run /usr/share/entrance/build_config.sh |
| 07:08.59 | coagen | i just ran it and copied the new config file it generates over the old one in /etc |
| 07:09.21 | sHR00m | ok, fine |
| 07:09.37 | sHR00m | shouldnt too hard to write a little frontend |
| 07:09.55 | eshep | coagen, when i did it that way it just went to the default theme |
| 07:09.58 | eshep | ??? |
| 07:10.14 | coagen | i'll be glad when i can figure out how to use entangle easily... |
| 07:10.20 | eshep | sHR00m, thana is working on that |
| 07:10.27 | sHR00m | entangle? is working great |
| 07:10.30 | sHR00m | eshep, i see |
| 07:11.00 | eshep | oh yeah, sHR00m i just checked and the themes are no longer on get-e |
| 07:11.23 | sHR00m | could you dcc the pack? ;) |
| 07:12.11 | eshep | all i have is whats in /usr/share/entrance/themes |
| 07:12.16 | sHR00m | ok |
| 07:12.26 | coagen | eshep: hmm didnt happen to me :P |
| 07:12.27 | coagen | i need to be able to add new programs to the menu easily... |
| 07:12.27 | coagen | as well as the dock |
| 07:12.27 | coagen | and creating .eap files sounds like a boring waste of time |
| 07:12.28 | eshep | sorry dude |
| 07:12.41 | coagen | sHR00m: you know how to add new programs easily? |
| 07:13.13 | eshep | creating eap files should be at least drag-and-drop |
| 07:13.32 | coagen | is it? |
| 07:13.55 | eshep | dunno, if you try it might lock up |
| 07:14.03 | sHR00m | coagen, sure, download a icon pack from get-e |
| 07:14.06 | eshep | entangle is still quite buggy |
| 07:14.18 | sHR00m | and put the eap files in /.e/e/applications/all |
| 07:14.28 | sHR00m | you should backup your old dir ;) |
| 07:14.33 | coagen | haha |
| 07:14.41 | coagen | boy you guys make it sound exciting |
| 07:14.42 | coagen | :P |
| 07:14.53 | sHR00m | but its important to let the old icons in the dir |
| 07:15.02 | sHR00m | so the menu can use them for structure |
| 07:15.19 | sHR00m | adding new icons isnt really neccesary, i think |
| 07:15.26 | sHR00m | there are 150 icons or so |
| 07:15.50 | coagen | yeah? ok so walk me thru this |
| 07:15.50 | sHR00m | not adding. creating, i mean |
| 07:15.56 | coagen | i've got entangle open |
| 07:16.13 | eshep | coagen, i put a walkthrough in the faq |
| 07:16.18 | coagen | oh |
| 07:16.20 | eshep | on the wiki |
| 07:16.21 | coagen | ok |
| 07:16.38 | eshep | please try that and let me know how it works |
| 07:16.49 | eshep | just curious |
| 07:17.11 | coagen | i will |
| 07:18.07 | eshep | thanks |
| 07:20.03 | coagen | well |
| 07:20.06 | coagen | if i can find it |
| 07:20.38 | eshep | http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=3 |
| 07:26.53 | coagen | ok |
| 07:27.01 | coagen | are there icons on my box already? |
| 07:27.16 | coagen | or do i really have to get some from get-e.org |
| 07:27.22 | coagen | i'm tired and lazy atm... |
| 07:27.36 | sHR00m | well only the ones you see in entangle |
| 07:28.04 | coagen | oh |
| 07:28.07 | coagen | good point |
| 07:28.08 | coagen | haha |
| 07:28.23 | coagen | where are they located? |
| 07:28.33 | sHR00m | in .e/e/applications/all |
| 07:28.46 | sHR00m | and if you delete them, your menu will be empty |
| 07:28.50 | sHR00m | so be careful :P |
| 07:29.30 | coagen | ohh ok |
| 07:29.35 | coagen | i understand now |
| 07:29.36 | coagen | thx |
| 07:29.38 | eshep | sHR00m, sounds like you have first-hand knowledge of this :) |
| 07:30.07 | sHR00m | eshep, i replaced them with the old and many entries were gone ;) |
| 07:30.23 | sHR00m | if i just had overwrite the existing, it would be fine, i think |
| 07:30.27 | eshep | aha, oops |
| 07:30.55 | eshep | i just overwrote what was there |
| 07:31.02 | eshep | mine was ok |
| 07:31.07 | sHR00m | yes |
| 07:31.20 | sHR00m | there are much programmes in the packs :) |
| 07:31.22 | sHR00m | really nice |
| 07:38.33 | reliver | coagen, eshep ? |
| 07:42.19 | eshep | yo, reliver |
| 07:44.18 | reliver | hi eshep, what you wanted, you still need ? |
| 07:45.34 | eshep | i finally got my entrance theme to change |
| 07:45.50 | eshep | do you want it in the faq or a wiki page? |
| 07:46.52 | reliver | of course, eshep, wherever you like or both :-) |
| 07:47.04 | reliver | the faq, are you able to update it ? |
| 07:48.22 | eshep | dunno, its time to go home though. ill try tonight |
| 07:49.01 | reliver | ok. |
| 07:49.14 | reliver | i tend to build everything in the wiki ... |
| 07:49.25 | reliver | wherever you like :-) |
| 07:49.44 | reliver | nobody started something about themes, so that would be great. |
| 07:49.54 | reliver | have a good evening, eshep. |
| 07:50.21 | eshep | will do, ill be back in a couple of hours |
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| 09:42.32 | junme | Hi all how do I set up a modem conection in elive ? |
| 09:43.20 | sHR00m | with pppconfig, maybe? |
| 09:43.33 | sHR00m | dunno, cause i use pppoe and dsl |
| 09:44.31 | junme | if pppconfig there thats ok thanks |
| 09:45.04 | sHR00m | np, hope it works |
| 09:45.19 | junme | brb |
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| 09:53.12 | reliver | shr00m, hello :-) |
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| 10:02.35 | sHR00m | moin reliver |
| 10:05.47 | reliver | hello, is that correct, shr00m ? http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Network |
| 10:07.46 | sHR00m | reliver, not exactly :) well ipdown and such isnt wrong but not needed, i think. and you need to use pppoeconf for dsl configuration |
| 10:08.19 | reliver | would you like to correct it ? |
| 10:08.30 | sHR00m | i havent much time at the moment but ok |
| 10:09.29 | reliver | but it is not ipdown :-) |
| 10:11.36 | sHR00m | ok changed |
| 10:11.42 | reliver | thanks. |
| 10:11.57 | sHR00m | if you reconfigure it with debians tools, it does everything |
| 10:11.59 | sHR00m | up, down |
| 10:12.04 | reliver | the alternative after running dpkg-reconfigure etherconf |
| 10:12.11 | sHR00m | and even if you use ifconfig to configure you wont need to down it |
| 10:12.21 | reliver | is to reboot, so ifdown ifup is nicer, no ? |
| 10:13.14 | reliver | i ran dpkg-reconfigure etherconf and i did have to reboot for the changes to take effect. |
| 10:13.18 | sHR00m | ich würde mich sehr wundern, wenn die settings danach nicht übernommen werden. zur sicherheit kann man ein /etc/init.d/networking restart machen. ich würde aber nochmal gucken ob das wirklich nötig ist |
| 10:13.28 | sHR00m | ok then add it. i have to go. l8r |
| 10:13.42 | reliver | mir ist Elive sogar eingefroren dabei :-) |
| 10:13.51 | reliver | bye, thanks :-) |
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| 10:29.36 | Elive_user | ilike you :P |
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| 10:41.03 | reliver | oh, buenos dias :-) |
| 10:41.14 | Thanatermesis | buenos dias :) |
| 10:41.35 | reliver | siempre te falta estructura en el wiki ? |
| 10:41.48 | Thanatermesis | estructura ? |
| 10:41.56 | reliver | tenimos doble visitas ayer. |
| 10:42.16 | reliver | si, deciste que falta estructura en el wiki... |
| 10:42.17 | Thanatermesis | visitas ? en el wiki ? bien |
| 10:42.27 | Thanatermesis | para los idiomas |
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| 10:42.43 | reliver | ah, si, claro. |
| 10:42.52 | reliver | shadoi lo podria cambiar ... |
| 10:43.11 | Thanatermesis | no se como funciona la verdad, yo de web, redes y todo eso ni idea... |
| 10:43.25 | Thanatermesis | solo digo que poner idiomas de esa forma "no esta muy bien"... |
| 10:43.40 | reliver | es transicional so. |
| 10:43.52 | reliver | es wiki 0.3 :-) |
| 10:44.31 | Thanatermesis | ok, hazlo como veas mejor pues |
| 10:44.36 | reliver | viste que el link paypal es todo en fances ? |
| 10:44.48 | Thanatermesis | ah si ? :/ |
| 10:45.00 | reliver | yo lo cambio logo que puedo, con shadoi... |
| 10:45.08 | reliver | tenta ver. |
| 10:45.44 | reliver | mejor que flamenco, no >;?) |
| 10:45.48 | Thanatermesis | esto es una mierda |
| 10:45.56 | Thanatermesis | y el ebay de los cojones tambien |
| 10:46.00 | Thanatermesis | peor que windows |
| 10:46.07 | Thanatermesis | sistemas de mierda |
| 10:46.31 | _H_ | queréis ver un oftopic guapo? |
| 10:46.39 | _H_ | fotos del eclipse: http://bloc.balearweb.net/post/55/6550 |
| 10:46.59 | reliver | mesmo sinplomo (15 anos) inicia copiar el modo sucio de hablar que iniciaste usar aqui, thanatermesis, para impressionar a los otros ... |
| 10:47.04 | Thanatermesis | jeje |
| 10:47.05 | reliver | :-) |
| 10:47.21 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 10:47.39 | reliver | paypal cambio ? |
| 10:47.48 | reliver | o tambien nunca verificaste ? |
| 10:48.02 | Thanatermesis | esta en frances, no se como ponerlo en ingles |
| 10:48.24 | Thanatermesis | y el mierda de ebay esta en flamand... si lo hubieran puesto en letras japonesas entenderia mejor... |
| 10:48.46 | reliver | sinplomo te inicia a copiar, hablando "mierda" y todas estas palabras ... |
| 10:49.29 | Thanatermesis | _H_ creo que has fotografiado un OVNI, en las fotos "pequeñas" la de abajo a la izquierda |
| 10:49.39 | _H_ | :))) |
| 10:49.44 | _H_ | son gaviotas |
| 10:49.49 | _H_ | lee el texto muchacho |
| 10:49.52 | _H_ | jajajaja |
| 10:50.01 | roxville | morning |
| 10:50.08 | reliver | es un OVNI frances o espanol ? |
| 10:50.08 | Thanatermesis | reliver no creo que sinplomo me este copiando, el siempre a hablado como quiere... pero es verdad que tengo muy mala lengua xD |
| 10:50.13 | Thanatermesis | morning roxville |
| 10:50.44 | reliver | sinplomo vive en un paiz arabo, stricto,... |
| 10:51.21 | Thanatermesis | pues menos mal que sinplomo no esta en el IRC hispano... sino en su pais lo pondrian en la carcel solo por hablar xD |
| 10:51.23 | reliver | hello roxville. |
| 10:51.30 | roxville | Thanatermesis, erme is a good app, i like it. |
| 10:51.39 | roxville | morning reliver |
| 10:51.58 | Thanatermesis | yes roxville ? good, and I have included a command for upgrade the version of erme ;) erme-upgrade :D |
| 10:52.03 | roxville | reliver, did you ask him about wink? |
| 10:52.49 | roxville | ermer-upgrade? i would never have guessed, can't you make it more simple? |
| 10:53.50 | roxville | like e_erme_upgrade_upgrade_utils_remote_remote_again_upgrade |
| 10:54.05 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 10:54.27 | reliver | ah, not yet, roxville, do you ? |
| 10:54.45 | roxville | ok... |
| 10:55.00 | reliver | thanatermesis, quiero que te ayudo con la configuracion de tu pagina paypal ? |
| 10:55.11 | reliver | thanatermesis, quieres que te ayudo con la configuracion de tu pagina paypal ? |
| 10:55.16 | roxville | Thanatermesis, reliver was talkong about an app called wink last night... but it's not in the repo |
| 10:55.28 | roxville | oh, sorry |
| 10:55.49 | roxville | apt x en es i do not want to bother you too much |
| 10:56.07 | reliver | why sorry, roxville ? you good man :-) |
| 10:56.10 | Thanatermesis | luego lo miro reliver ... tengo el mozilla roto porque sinplomo me hizo entrar en www.windows.com (if you enter in this webpage, your CPU burn in 99 % of stupid work :)) |
| 10:56.29 | roxville | LOL |
| 10:56.29 | reliver | oh. |
| 10:56.50 | Thanatermesis | roxville I know wink, but not have included because have a little bug with the keys of "record/snapshot" |
| 10:57.02 | roxville | understand |
| 10:57.17 | Thanatermesis | I have speaked with the developer and read the forum, the persons know this bug... but don't have idea how to repair it |
| 10:57.56 | roxville | well then i think that was about it! oh, someone suggested shelf enabled in evidence by default |
| 10:58.28 | roxville | wow, that weird... isn't it? |
| 10:58.40 | Thanatermesis | its true, try to enter in www.windows.com and launch "gkrellm" , look you CPU activity... beacause this, my firefox is crashed and not posible to re-open... fucking windows... |
| 10:59.12 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es well then i think that was about it! oh, someone suggested shelf enabled in evidence by default. wow, that weird... isn't it? |
| 10:59.39 | roxville | i know that gkrellm is like, the ultimate geek-app, but... i don't like it :) |
| 10:59.43 | Thanatermesis | what about evidence ? im not understand |
| 10:59.54 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, try "torsmo" :) |
| 11:00.13 | roxville | yes, torsmo is pretty good |
| 11:00.32 | roxville | it's ok, i don't need those apps that much |
| 11:01.09 | reliver | thanatermesis what bug in wink ? http://www.debugmode.com/userforums/viewforum.php?f=32 |
| 11:05.58 | reliver | wow ... |
| 11:06.30 | roxville | ok, about evidende... he said to have the shelf enabled by default... that's all... reliver told him to post it in the wishlist |
| 11:06.45 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es he said to have the shelf enabled by default... that's all... reliver told him to post it in the wishlist |
| 11:07.23 | roxville | is it raining in belgium today? |
| 11:07.56 | roxville | that's why jaques brel moved to france, i think |
| 11:08.36 | Thanatermesis | evidece by default ? im not understand... what is "by default" ? |
| 11:08.52 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 11:08.55 | roxville | what is shelf? |
| 11:08.58 | Thanatermesis | yes, all days is raining |
| 11:09.03 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es shelf |
| 11:09.12 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 11:09.14 | Thanatermesis | apt x en fr shelf |
| 11:09.18 | roxville | lol |
| 11:09.24 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh |
| 11:09.34 | Thanatermesis | apt x es en estante |
| 11:09.39 | Thanatermesis | :/ |
| 11:09.42 | roxville | seems to be a feature in evidence |
| 11:09.44 | Thanatermesis | apt x en ja shelf |
| 11:09.58 | Thanatermesis | apt x en cn shelf |
| 11:10.22 | Thanatermesis | apt x en ro shelf |
| 11:10.42 | Thanatermesis | apt x en gr shelf |
| 11:10.45 | Thanatermesis | apt x en ru shelf |
| 11:10.58 | Thanatermesis | oh! i understand... полка ! |
| 11:11.04 | roxville | apt x en se shelf |
| 11:11.06 | reliver | :-) quieres una libreria ? |
| 11:11.07 | roxville | LOL |
| 11:11.26 | Thanatermesis | reliver me podrias decir lo que quiere decir de evidence ? no entiendo |
| 11:12.36 | reliver | si, voy hablar con roxville |
| 11:13.09 | reliver | ah, tu hablas de #e ? |
| 11:13.11 | roxville | apt x es en |
| 11:13.17 | reliver | la conversa en #e ? |
| 11:13.18 | roxville | apt x es en reliver me podrias decir lo que quiere decir de evidence ? no entiendo |
| 11:13.54 | roxville | Thanatermesis, i don't understand either... i'm only saying what he said |
| 11:14.07 | reliver | roxville, did you understand what he wanted about shelf and evidence ? |
| 11:14.15 | reliver | the guy tonight ? |
| 11:14.25 | roxville | i'm sure he will ask you when he comes back |
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| 11:14.37 | reliver | aha. |
| 11:14.48 | joano | reliever, ;-) |
| 11:14.52 | reliver | roxville dice que tambien no capiche :-) |
| 11:14.57 | joano | reliver* |
| 11:15.04 | roxville | reliver, are you still awake? or have you slept? |
| 11:15.05 | reliver | hola joano :-) |
| 11:15.14 | Thanatermesis | the fucking windows.com has crashed totally my mozilla, aparently without posibility of recover... i need to reboot in few minutes |
| 11:15.18 | reliver | not yet, roxville :) |
| 11:15.31 | reliver | ok. |
| 11:15.45 | roxville | pls don't wear yourself out reliver |
| 11:16.19 | reliver | thanks, roxville. |
| 11:16.24 | roxville | Thanatermesis, it's not even possible to remove and reinstall mozilla? |
| 11:16.38 | roxville | oh... |
| 11:16.38 | reliver | this time it was not for Elive :-) |
| 11:17.00 | roxville | no? |
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| 11:17.31 | roxville | morning etech |
| 11:17.39 | etech | hi |
| 11:18.09 | roxville | :) |
| 11:18.44 | roxville | reliver, it was not for elive? what did you mean? |
| 11:19.10 | reliver | that i worked until now yesterday :-) |
| 11:19.35 | reliver | hi etech :-) |
| 11:19.41 | etech | hi.. |
| 11:19.43 | roxville | oh, ok :) |
| 11:19.47 | etech | damn.. i hate standing up that late.. |
| 11:19.59 | reliver | why, etech ? |
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| 11:20.36 | reliver | ya tentaste borar $HOME/.mozilla ? |
| 11:20.54 | Thanatermesis | incredible, mozilla is totally died because microsoft.com... |
| 11:21.01 | reliver | ya tentaste borar $HOME/.mozilla ? |
| 11:21.02 | Thanatermesis | alli esta el problema, e perdido mi configuracion, y NECESITO recuperarla |
| 11:21.03 | etech | half day of the day is between 8am and 12.. the other 20 hours are the rest.. :-) don't know.. |
| 11:21.18 | roxville | lol |
| 11:21.22 | reliver | tienes backup ? |
| 11:21.51 | roxville | tough guys don't backup... they just wish they did |
| 11:21.52 | Thanatermesis | no |
| 11:22.47 | reliver | roxville, do you know of good applications for http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Software ? |
| 11:22.58 | reliver | (the last part) |
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| 11:24.55 | joano | apt-get --reinstall install mozilla ? |
| 11:26.42 | reliver | thanatermesis what are we doing today ? harddisk forensics, apt, to recover my mozilla preferences :-) |
| 11:27.22 | Thanatermesis | '--==(~/.mozilla.sec2/default/ilki528o.slt)==--> file lock |
| 11:27.22 | Thanatermesis | lock: broken symbolic link to `127.0.0.1:5095' <----- culpable, caused by microsoft.com ... what fuck search microsoft in my 5059 port ? |
| 11:27.39 | blizzard^ | hiding |
| 11:27.55 | reliver | hello blizzard^ :-) |
| 11:27.59 | blizzard^ | netstat -anp |grep 5095 |
| 11:28.00 | blizzard^ | helu =) |
| 11:28.03 | roxville | Thanatermesis, they look for compatibility |
| 11:28.25 | blizzard^ | uhm, u dont symlink to IP |
| 11:28.28 | Thanatermesis | no roxville ... microsoft look a way for make unstable my linux :) |
| 11:28.31 | blizzard^ | u symlink inodes |
| 11:28.40 | Thanatermesis | broke my linux.. |
| 11:28.43 | roxville | like if they see wine code..you can't upgrade |
| 11:30.09 | Thanatermesis | its posible to add a special function in Elive for launch the 99 % of the window$ programs... |
| 11:30.41 | reliver | oh, great :-) |
| 11:31.26 | reliver | so you added giftoxic there, roxville ? |
| 11:31.37 | roxville | i think slax has a function like that |
| 11:31.49 | roxville | no reliver , not yet |
| 11:32.19 | roxville | i also know a good photo-album app... but i can't remember the name lol |
| 11:32.57 | reliver | viste oque dicen en #e ahora, thanatermesis ? |
| 11:33.10 | reliver | great, roxville. |
| 11:33.19 | reliver | and for backups ? |
| 11:34.40 | Thanatermesis | evidence ? |
| 11:34.45 | roxville | dunno...yet |
| 11:34.47 | Thanatermesis | lo se, tengo que hablar con el devel.. |
| 11:36.08 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es unless someone rescues it |
| 11:37.17 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es perhaps someone will borrow its code and modify it for future e projects |
| 11:38.49 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es i think is hall update e. perhaps it has something sexy and new to it |
| 11:39.02 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es i think is hall update eeeeeeeeee. perhaps it has something sexy and new to it |
| 11:41.06 | roxville | lol |
| 11:41.26 | roxville | ok, i'll brb, gotta check some apps |
| 11:46.17 | reliver | como se manifesta el bug de wink, thanatermesis ? |
| 11:46.40 | Thanatermesis | "capture" o "snapshot" keys |
| 11:46.42 | Thanatermesis | algo asi |
| 11:46.46 | Thanatermesis | no lo e encontrado en el forum |
| 11:46.50 | Thanatermesis | a ti te funciona correctamente ? |
| 11:49.04 | reliver | lo minimo que lo usei si, podrias poner el deb en el repositorio para otros poder experimentar ? |
| 11:49.39 | Thanatermesis | si |
| 11:49.46 | reliver | mira: http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Screenshotmovies |
| 11:49.52 | reliver | :-) |
| 11:50.04 | Thanatermesis | Created directory "/var/www/mirror/elive/pool/main/w" |
| 11:50.04 | Thanatermesis | Created directory "/var/www/mirror/elive/pool/main/w/wink" |
| 11:50.04 | Thanatermesis | db: 'wink' added to 'elive|main|i386'. |
| 11:50.30 | Thanatermesis | a partir de mañana a las 11 de la mañana estara en los repositorios oficiales :) |
| 11:50.33 | reliver | dime, no quieres borar vobcopy en el topic de este canal IRC ? |
| 11:52.46 | Thanatermesis | si |
| 11:52.50 | reliver | bien :-) |
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| 11:54.56 | reliver | mejor. |
| 11:55.04 | reliver | porque no encuentro wink en mi /var/cache/apt/archives mas en synaptic lo veo ? |
| 11:58.19 | Thanatermesis | como lo instalaste ? |
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| 11:58.30 | Thanatermesis | ese directorio es solo para las cosas instaladas por apt-get |
| 11:58.34 | Thanatermesis | hola mariodebia1 |
| 11:58.38 | mariodebia1 | hola |
| 12:02.09 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/background-original.jpg <-- its better this "glass" look or the original theme of Elive in e17 ? |
| 12:02.35 | reliver | me lo enviaste, wink, o no ? no soy mas seguro. |
| 12:02.48 | Thanatermesis | creo que si, en todo caso no estaba en el repositorio ;) |
| 12:04.16 | reliver | entonces si... entonces xchat borra los attachments de ayer, verdad ? |
| 12:05.09 | Thanatermesis | no, los guarda |
| 12:05.17 | Thanatermesis | quizas por http :)= |
| 12:06.00 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es you cannot have shaped borders in e17 |
| 12:06.17 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es shap |
| 12:06.21 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es shape |
| 12:06.26 | Thanatermesis | reliver que es "shaped" ? |
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| 12:11.37 | reliver | formado ? |
| 12:11.48 | reliver | me falto esa palavra en espanol |
| 12:12.28 | roxville | f-spoy is a good photo album app |
| 12:12.39 | roxville | oops |
| 12:12.44 | roxville | f-spot |
| 12:13.05 | roxville | f-spot, that's how you spell it |
| 12:13.42 | Thanatermesis | reliver como has puesto el link paypal ? has copiado todo el codigo html, no ? |
| 12:13.53 | Thanatermesis | roxville you don't like gthumb ? |
| 12:14.11 | Thanatermesis | f-spot is "hard", needs RAM (from my memory) |
| 12:14.12 | Thanatermesis | slow |
| 12:14.27 | roxville | gthumb is good... but f-spot is better :) much better |
| 12:15.12 | roxville | ok thana, i am only suggesting...you make the desicions :) |
| 12:15.56 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es left |
| 12:17.23 | reliver | si, copiei todo el link, claro. |
| 12:17.23 | roxville | what about kimdaba? |
| 12:18.38 | roxville | http://ktown.kde.org/kimdaba/ |
| 12:18.39 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es can be done in e16. hehe. bring back the memory eh? I missed Wave man. |
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| 12:23.11 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es i still run multiple border theme on e16, like e09, e13, e15, e16, eet, pink, steel, chromium & xsi, just like those borders. |
| 12:28.13 | roxville | ok, gthumb is pretty good! :) not as fancy as f-spot, but... pretty good :) |
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| 12:32.10 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 12:37.11 | roxville | Thanatermesis, i have to ask one thing... |
| 12:38.06 | roxville | apt x en es i started re-doing the eapps with bigger icons . but ... doesn't it matter where the icons are located? |
| 12:38.51 | roxville | apt x en es i mean does it matter if i take them from /usr/share/icons or from my home folder? |
| 12:39.23 | Thanatermesis | you have exquisite themes ? |
| 12:39.43 | roxville | yes |
| 12:39.53 | Thanatermesis | only change this, another icons is from random icons... |
| 12:39.59 | roxville | but it seems i do not have ALL the icons |
| 12:40.16 | roxville | do you use the gnome-port or the kde? |
| 12:40.33 | roxville | ok |
| 12:42.00 | roxville | but... it does not matter where MY icons are located? eapp edit stores the icon itself, not just a symlink? |
| 12:42.32 | Thanatermesis | no, the image is located in the .eap file :) |
| 12:42.33 | Thanatermesis | added |
| 12:42.40 | roxville | wow! |
| 12:42.48 | roxville | that is great! |
| 12:42.49 | sHR00m | yes. the image and also the link. |
| 12:43.12 | roxville | hi sHR00m wie gehts? |
| 12:43.15 | sHR00m | gut |
| 12:43.23 | roxville | :) |
| 12:43.28 | sHR00m | bald kommt mein p4, hoffentlich :P |
| 12:44.01 | roxville | awesome :) |
| 12:44.24 | roxville | oh p4...not G4? lol |
| 12:44.34 | sHR00m | nop |
| 12:44.59 | sHR00m | saw an pc for 350 euro. pentium 4, prescott. with 2 mb cache and 512 mb ram |
| 12:45.02 | sHR00m | couldnt resist =) |
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| 12:45.09 | GS | Hola |
| 12:45.13 | Thanatermesis | hola GS |
| 12:45.18 | Thanatermesis | cuanto tiempo xD |
| 12:45.19 | GS | que tal Thanatermesis |
| 12:45.26 | Thanatermesis | bien... aqui currando como siempre ;) |
| 12:45.32 | GS | ;) |
| 12:45.34 | Thanatermesis | para variar xD |
| 12:46.11 | GS | usabas en la elive amsn? |
| 12:46.24 | Thanatermesis | mmh, si, con soporte de cam ;) |
| 12:46.34 | GS | y con antialiasing? |
| 12:46.44 | Thanatermesis | huy, eso ya lo dudo porque era muy feo xD |
| 12:46.53 | GS | pues ya puedes |
| 12:46.58 | GS | actualizando las tcl tk |
| 12:47.01 | GS | 8.5 |
| 12:47.06 | GS | en debianitas.net he escrito algo |
| 12:47.09 | GS | esta en la noticia |
| 12:47.14 | GS | la verdad ke keda mucho mejor |
| 12:48.09 | Thanatermesis | hombre pues si, porque era feo de cojones xD |
| 12:48.19 | GS | ahorqa parece algo decente ;) |
| 12:48.23 | Thanatermesis | ok, se lo diré a sinplomo que dice que se aburre xd |
| 12:48.30 | GS | ok ;) |
| 12:48.37 | Thanatermesis | pues si... aunque sigue petando como windows, no ? xD |
| 12:48.48 | GS | no suele petar |
| 12:48.49 | GS | nose |
| 12:48.52 | GS | almenos la estable |
| 12:48.58 | Thanatermesis | mmmhe |
| 12:49.05 | Thanatermesis | esa version esta en debian ? (etch) |
| 12:49.22 | GS | la 0.94 si |
| 12:51.12 | Thanatermesis | mmh, pero esa tiene cam y antialiasing ? |
| 12:51.33 | GS | el antialiasing es de las tcl tk 8.5 no de la aplicacion |
| 12:51.37 | Thanatermesis | bueno... le diré a sinplomo que se ocupe, es que es mejor usar el del paquete debian, es mucho mas pequeño xD |
| 12:51.42 | Thanatermesis | ah ok |
| 12:51.48 | Thanatermesis | voy a ver si hay alguna actualizacion en etch.. |
| 12:51.56 | GS | enga ta luego |
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| 12:59.17 | roxville | sHR00m, that's a damn good deal :) |
| 13:00.11 | sHR00m | yes the seller will not be amused |
| 13:00.32 | sHR00m | he thinks i buy a grafik card, harddisk, dvd burner etc with it :P |
| 13:01.39 | roxville | ahh... lol |
| 13:04.16 | roxville | does it have a good chip set? |
| 13:05.56 | sHR00m | its a via board. but since i cant get nforce for p4, it will be fine i think |
| 13:06.35 | sHR00m | and everything is better then my p2 "desktop" *g* |
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| 13:09.17 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es i have done work before to make linxu boot to x in 1.6 seconds but it was entirely custom and done for a paynig client. i dont have anything i can give u - and even if i had it - i couldnt give it to you and it's not mine to give. |
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| 13:14.33 | mchasard | hi |
| 13:16.46 | reliver | would you like to add gthumb and f-spot to the wiki, roxville ? |
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| 13:19.27 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 13:19.48 | Elive_user | zozo is dat wat |
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| 13:36.18 | roxville | reliver, gthumb is already installed in elive, and f-spot is not in the repo |
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| 13:37.25 | Thanatermesis | f-spot is actually for debian "unstable", you need to wait some time for the transaction to "etch" ;) |
| 13:37.48 | reliver | would you like to add gthumb to http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Software ? |
| 13:38.02 | reliver | roxville ? |
| 13:38.22 | roxville | yes reliver, i would love to! :) |
| 13:38.34 | reliver | great. |
| 13:38.54 | reliver | i found wink for you, roxville, do you want it ? |
| 13:43.46 | roxville | sure, hand it over! |
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| 13:51.34 | reliver | what do you use as calculator, roxville ? |
| 13:52.14 | roxville | galculator, i think. the one that elive comes with |
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| 13:59.42 | roxville | WOW! i just realized that you can copy a file in evidence by dropping it on a tab |
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| 14:00.26 | roxville | like.. from /home/user/.files/.xchat2/downloads to /home/user |
| 14:00.46 | roxville | just by grabbing the file and drop it on the user tab |
| 14:02.52 | reliver | practical :) |
| 14:03.14 | reliver | does wink work for you ? |
| 14:05.26 | sHR00m | OIL: ERROR liboiltest.c 247: (): illegal instruction in idct8x8_s16_mmx |
| 14:05.31 | sHR00m | that sounds great |
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| 14:09.01 | reliver | when i copy a 700 MB file to same HD, it takes 1 Min, to another HD 5 Min (fast drives) |
| 14:09.19 | reliver | kblockd, kjournald, kswapd, pdflush, kthread, khelper, kacpid, ksoftirqd, go up to 100% CPU ... |
| 14:09.44 | sHR00m | whats with the ram? |
| 14:10.21 | reliver | 500mb RAM |
| 14:10.50 | reliver | i can not watch movies, they drop frames like crazy. |
| 14:11.10 | sHR00m | this is very strange |
| 14:11.20 | sHR00m | everything.. |
| 14:11.37 | reliver | i did not see this with this computer on ubuntu or mandriva. |
| 14:12.25 | reliver | hardware defect ? |
| 14:12.28 | sHR00m | what does "uptime" say? |
| 14:12.35 | sHR00m | with load and so |
| 14:13.12 | reliver | 0.3 0.9 1.3 |
| 14:13.37 | sHR00m | sounds not too bad.. if you have something in the background working |
| 14:13.45 | reliver | 1.3 is from the copy. |
| 14:14.03 | reliver | 1.3 reflects the problem. |
| 14:15.39 | reliver | what application do you use to see HD space used ? |
| 14:18.17 | reliver | df, reliver :-) |
| 14:19.15 | sHR00m | exactly :P |
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| 14:29.51 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es the more evas has to render - the slower it will be. the more pixels. or if it has to tween images it has to load and decoade them from the .edj before even rendering/scaling |
| 14:31.59 | reliver | shr00m: 98% full. could Elive warn about this ? |
| 14:32.28 | sHR00m | hm.. if some tool is loaded in the background who does check it |
| 14:32.45 | sHR00m | never seen any, but it surely would be possible |
| 14:32.46 | reliver | hast du eine empfehlung ? |
| 14:32.55 | reliver | ok. |
| 14:33.11 | sHR00m | evtl ein kleines bashscript, das in regelmässigen abständen ein df grept und bei einer kritischen marke anfängt zu beepen? |
| 14:33.41 | Thanatermesis | apt x es en explicar, describir |
| 14:36.02 | roxville | ja, das zollte ein angenem lösung geworden, ich denke |
| 14:36.33 | sHR00m | uhu |
| 14:36.33 | reliver | roxville, yes :-) |
| 14:36.38 | sHR00m | english please *g* |
| 14:36.47 | reliver | great :-) |
| 14:37.22 | reliver | roxville, you mentioned the games in Elive, right ? |
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| 14:39.38 | roxville | reliver, not really, i was just trying to figure out why i couldn't install pod-racer which is a lucas art game... but i found out why |
| 14:39.59 | roxville | it plays only older games...roms |
| 14:40.28 | sHR00m | what? the lucas arts adventure emulation thing? |
| 14:40.45 | roxville | scummvm yes |
| 14:40.48 | sHR00m | ah yes |
| 14:40.58 | sHR00m | sure. only scumm-based adventures :) |
| 14:41.05 | roxville | yep |
| 14:41.07 | sHR00m | but you could proof your luck with wine |
| 14:41.17 | sHR00m | or a surely legal owned copy of cedega :P |
| 14:41.38 | roxville | there is a really nice helicopter-simm for older windows...wonder if dos-box could do that |
| 14:41.49 | sHR00m | if your direct rendering is working. correct modules for the grafik card, etc. there should be no problem |
| 14:41.52 | reliver | should i mention the games on the software page ? |
| 14:41.53 | roxville | cedega :PPPPP |
| 14:42.16 | roxville | reliver, sure |
| 14:42.22 | sHR00m | i think i buy cedega, if my p4 works |
| 14:42.35 | sHR00m | you have only to click which game you have.. their tools do the rest |
| 14:42.43 | sHR00m | download the correct core, settings :) |
| 14:43.08 | reliver | "Games" is there, i never use any, would you like to list a few on that line ? |
| 14:43.38 | sHR00m | well its funny to play anno1602, for example *g* |
| 14:43.45 | sHR00m | let the old times come up again |
| 14:43.45 | roxville | armagetron and chromium are good games |
| 14:43.53 | reliver | gthumb, i can not rotate a foto when i am seeing them all in a folder, only when i look at just one ... |
| 14:44.23 | roxville | yes |
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| 14:44.34 | reliver | not good ... |
| 14:44.41 | roxville | i wish entice had an album function |
| 14:44.43 | sHR00m | there are also interesting 3d games for linux.. |
| 14:44.49 | reliver | hello Elive_user |
| 14:44.57 | reliver | oh. |
| 14:45.03 | sHR00m | some command and conquer 3d clone |
| 14:45.14 | sHR00m | and some rpgs |
| 14:45.25 | sHR00m | and ah, yes. a very cool space simulator |
| 14:45.26 | roxville | i could NEVER get search and rescue to work |
| 14:45.55 | sHR00m | vega strike |
| 14:46.00 | roxville | and g-117 is not bad, but... not that good either |
| 14:46.01 | sHR00m | very good.. if you have direct rendering :P |
| 14:46.14 | reliver | roxville you know a good foto album software ? |
| 14:47.13 | roxville | yes f-spot is my fav |
| 14:47.31 | roxville | but it needs mono, and thana didn't like it that much |
| 14:47.53 | reliver | does one of you want to list the games you like on that games line ? |
| 14:47.56 | roxville | only coz it takes quite a bit of resources |
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| 14:49.00 | sHR00m | reliver, in the wiki? sure |
| 14:49.18 | reliver | great, shr00m. |
| 14:49.33 | reliver | http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Software |
| 14:50.29 | roxville | i got railroad tycoon somewhere... |
| 14:50.35 | roxville | RR@ linux |
| 14:50.59 | sHR00m | http://www.the-outsiders.net/phpbb2/upload/vegastrike.jpg |
| 14:51.05 | roxville | RRT2 |
| 14:51.16 | sHR00m | this is one screenshot out of the space simulator.. doesnt it look like a commercial one? |
| 14:51.29 | reliver | roxville, why is f-spot not available for debian ? |
| 14:51.43 | sHR00m | and its a free base to create various games |
| 14:53.24 | roxville | reliver, it is...but not in etch |
| 14:54.04 | roxville | reliver, if you install ...u... you can get it :) |
| 14:54.37 | reliver | is that a common thing, that apps are not in etch, just in stable or unstable ? |
| 14:54.51 | reliver | np :-) |
| 14:54.53 | roxville | oh yeah! |
| 14:55.06 | reliver | really ? why ? |
| 14:55.35 | roxville | because etch is more unstable than unstable... it's "bleeding edge" |
| 14:55.57 | reliver | ah ... |
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| 14:56.11 | reliver | hmm. that's not so great ... |
| 14:56.14 | roxville | newer libs and...everything...may work with older apps...may not |
| 14:56.47 | reliver | ok, so the people here like to sit on a volcano, something like this ? |
| 14:57.05 | roxville | the apps has to update the dependencies, and that is what may take some time |
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| 14:57.39 | roxville | yep, we're all hot-ass ppl here! :) |
| 14:57.56 | reliver | ah :-) |
| 15:00.10 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:01.14 | roxville | i hope i got it somewhat right lol |
| 15:01.19 | reliver | and when it is fixed, we are moving to the next wave of etch again ? |
| 15:01.51 | reliver | is wink working for you roxville ? |
| 15:01.58 | roxville | sort of, yes |
| 15:02.12 | roxville | no, i can't get it to record |
| 15:03.10 | reliver | you use the exact steps i describe ? |
| 15:03.40 | roxville | i think so. i'll go over it again |
| 15:14.29 | sHR00m | reliver, you think its ok? at the wiki |
| 15:14.39 | sHR00m | maybe the headline is too long |
| 15:16.03 | roxville | lol sHR00m it is fine |
| 15:16.25 | roxville | reliver, in e17 wink is...unstable |
| 15:16.39 | roxville | i'll try again when i'm back in e16 |
| 15:17.17 | reliver | ah, sure, thanks roxville. |
| 15:17.56 | reliver | shr00m, the headline is fine, the idea too, i would propose another page ... |
| 15:18.29 | sHR00m | you gave me this one ;) |
| 15:23.31 | reliver | yes, please list the important games of Elive on the "Games" line there :-) |
| 15:24.01 | reliver | the rest we edit on the Wishlist, you like ? |
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| 15:27.14 | sinplomo | hiii |
| 15:27.36 | remix_tj | hi sinplomo |
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| 15:42.14 | roxville | sHR00m, you did not miss a thing when you were gone :) |
| 15:42.31 | roxville | in case you were nervous |
| 15:43.06 | reliver | you like it, shr00m ? http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Wishlist |
| 15:43.14 | sHR00m | had to reboot :P |
| 15:44.50 | reliver | roxville, you like http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Quickstart ? |
| 15:45.25 | sHR00m | yes it looks good |
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| 15:49.16 | reliver | shr00m, roxville, are you using an external usb drive with Elive ? |
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| 15:51.26 | mhz | hi there |
| 15:52.56 | mhz | I have a "thin-laptop" which, AFAIK, can only get linux installed either via PXE or installing 4 files into C:\. By doing the latter, I get to install Ubuntu. |
| 15:53.08 | mhz | BUT I DO want to install eLive |
| 15:53.34 | mhz | is that possible without CDrom, nor PendDrive, nor floppy??? |
| 15:55.41 | sHR00m | reliver, no |
| 15:56.20 | sHR00m | mhz, hmm could you use the former working method? |
| 15:56.33 | mhz | PXE? |
| 15:57.39 | mhz | I do not know how to set a NetBoot environment, manually. |
| 15:58.13 | mhz | I have tried a couple of LTSP LiveCd's thou |
| 15:58.34 | mhz | and this Fujitsu LifeBook B has booted from PXE |
| 16:07.41 | roxville | reliver, yes i use a firewire drive |
| 16:11.24 | sHR00m | mhz, hmm.. if you have ubuntu working, you could let grub boot the cd |
| 16:12.01 | mhz | sHR00m: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948 is the URL I used once to install Ubuntu. Basically, it says I have to install initrd and vmlinuz and a grub thing |
| 16:12.18 | mhz | MY only CD drive is PCMCIA |
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| 16:14.24 | sHR00m | mhz, you could search the elive cd for similiar bin and initrd.gz files |
| 16:15.03 | sHR00m | if you already set the grub config for ubuntu, to boot the cd. you should only have to rename those files exactly like the old ones |
| 16:15.30 | sHR00m | or havent you done that yet? |
| 16:15.54 | mhz | yes, I thought so, but my real newbie question is: let's say I do get to boot, how do I specify to load the whole installation from a PCMCIA or an apt repository that has the eLive? |
| 16:17.37 | mhz | I imagine I can get to boot Ubuntu (not from CD 'cos I have PCMCIA CD drive only) but it then starts runing apt and install all from internet, no questions asked :( |
| 16:18.52 | mhz | but then, I think Ubuntu does this 'cos it's not a LiveCd, but Install set up |
| 16:23.22 | sHR00m | mhz, well elive has some pcmcia detections |
| 16:23.32 | sHR00m | its possible that it would work with your cdrom drive |
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| 16:31.22 | sHR00m | hey, somebody has stolen our idea ;) |
| 16:32.39 | sHR00m | theres a live-cd now with the name "alive" |
| 16:32.55 | roxville | really? |
| 16:32.57 | sHR00m | could read it on german soft sites :P |
| 16:32.59 | sHR00m | yes |
| 16:33.08 | roxville | have a link? |
| 16:33.18 | roxville | didn't see it on distrowatch |
| 16:34.07 | sHR00m | http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=alive |
| 16:34.08 | sHR00m | ;) |
| 16:34.22 | sHR00m | oh sorry |
| 16:34.26 | sHR00m | stupid link on mainpage |
| 16:37.08 | sHR00m | http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2005/8710.html |
| 16:37.09 | sHR00m | here |
| 16:37.25 | sHR00m | maybe alive is only a nickname, but it doesnt seem so ;) |
| 16:38.53 | sHR00m | hmm have to go, l8r |
| 16:40.59 | roxville | yeah, later! |
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| 16:45.29 | Elive_user | PANINO |
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| 17:25.50 | dats | hola |
| 17:32.52 | mhz | hola |
| 18:00.24 | blizzard^ | how can I achive transparency with Eterm in E17? |
| 18:00.44 | Thanatermesis | Esetroot |
| 18:00.46 | blizzard^ | it uses fake transparency, and thats what fucks it up yes, but still an "Enlightened product" |
| 18:00.50 | Thanatermesis | future option for Elpanel :) |
| 18:01.00 | blizzard^ | whats Elpanel? |
| 18:01.14 | Thanatermesis | www.elive.xasein.com/downloads/elpanel-3.avi |
| 18:01.32 | blizzard^ | tnx |
| 18:01.39 | blizzard^ | btw, keybindings? |
| 18:01.39 | Thanatermesis | http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Elpanel |
| 18:01.46 | Thanatermesis | install "erme" |
| 18:02.18 | mhz | please tell me if it's ok or wrong.. |
| 18:02.21 | mhz | usually, for a HD ubuntu install.. |
| 18:02.30 | mhz | (hd0,0)/ubuntu/install/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 devfs=mount,dall ramdisk_size=17000 |
| 18:02.37 | mhz | in c:\menu.lst |
| 18:02.56 | mhz | then, What should I write in order to tell grub to boot eLive from PCMCIA CD drive??? |
| 18:02.59 | Thanatermesis | c: ?= o_O |
| 18:03.22 | Thanatermesis | <mhz> (hd0,0)/ubuntu/install/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 <---- o_O |
| 18:03.28 | mhz | I am trying from windows |
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| 18:03.41 | Thanatermesis | oh, i dont have idea then |
| 18:03.46 | mhz | hehhe |
| 18:04.06 | mhz | but it does not matter 'coz we are talking about grub here, right? |
| 18:04.33 | Thanatermesis | i don't know :) |
| 18:06.17 | blizzard^ | elpanel looks good, but what should it be used for? |
| 18:06.28 | blizzard^ | as an application launcher? |
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| 18:10.01 | blizzard^ | whats randr? |
| 18:10.33 | eddan | module to easy switch screen resolution |
| 18:10.34 | elive-bot | eddan: well, elive-resolution is if you like to start with another resolution (and install the system with this resolution), add screen=1024x768 in the boot options |
| 18:10.41 | blizzard^ | ah |
| 18:10.59 | blizzard^ | will it work with Merged Framebuffers? |
| 18:11.06 | eddan | no idea |
| 18:11.11 | eddan | and why did elive-bot talk to me |
| 18:13.19 | blizzard^ | why can't I choose [1-0] as buttons in erme? |
| 18:13.56 | eddan | whats erme? |
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| 18:14.30 | blizzard^ | Enlightenment Remote Made Easy |
| 18:14.46 | blizzard^ | gui for enlightenment_remote |
| 18:14.52 | blizzard^ | pretty neat actually |
| 18:15.03 | eddan | woow, never knew such a tool existed |
| 18:15.24 | eddan | did you get it from cvs and compile it yourself or is it available as a working binary for elive? |
| 18:15.31 | blizzard^ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:18.42 | eddan | fount it |
| 18:18.48 | eddan | *found |
| 18:20.31 | blizzard^ | hard? |
| 18:20.36 | eddan | very :) |
| 18:20.39 | eddan | nice app |
| 18:20.42 | blizzard^ | =) |
| 18:20.45 | blizzard^ | yes, indeed |
| 18:22.35 | eddan | just a quick question, are you having problems when trying to create a new icon with Eap editor, you can't type in text properly in the dialog boxes? |
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| 18:43.50 | reliver | hello eddan, coagen, maxtoo, anarien, sinplomo :-) |
| 18:44.00 | coagen | yo yo |
| 18:44.03 | Anarien | hola reliver :) |
| 18:44.18 | sinplomo | hi reliver |
| 18:44.25 | reliver | ya cambiaste tu horario de trabajo, anarien ? :-) |
| 18:44.46 | reliver | sinplomo, comment va le maroc ? :-) |
| 18:45.14 | sinplomo | reliver, lol :) |
| 18:45.22 | sinplomo | ça va :) |
| 18:45.25 | reliver | coment va la nation arabe ;-) ? |
| 18:45.31 | eddan | hola reliver! |
| 18:45.36 | reliver | le panarabisme :-) |
| 18:45.42 | Anarien | reliver: si,pero hasta el miercoles no empiezo (hoy y mañana tengo fiesta) :D |
| 18:45.50 | reliver | hola eddan, autor de wiki :-) |
| 18:46.07 | reliver | perfecto, ainda mejor :-) |
| 18:46.35 | Anarien | reliver: el viernes estube en el nuevo sitio donde tengo que ir a familiarizarme con la base de datos con la cual voy a trabajar y el informatico la habia cagado! xD |
| 18:47.01 | Anarien | se olvidó de introducir unos campos que necesito para hacer unos registros |
| 18:47.02 | reliver | cagado ? |
| 18:47.08 | eddan | claro :) - I've just used 50% of all the words I know in Spanish |
| 18:47.27 | Anarien | asi que... como esta en Madrid y hasta mañana no llega..., no empiezo hasta el miercoles |
| 18:47.32 | reliver | oh, y entonces ? |
| 18:47.43 | reliver | ah, perfecto :-) |
| 18:48.12 | Anarien | cagado=metido la pata |
| 18:48.33 | Anarien | cagado=no lo ha programado correctamente |
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| 18:53.21 | reliver | ah, anarien , ya entiendo, una nueva palabra elegante :-) |
| 18:55.07 | eddan | reliver: You're from zurich, right? Do you guys learn Spanish at school there from early on? |
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| 18:58.15 | reliver | they learn too many languages now at school here ... |
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| 18:59.23 | reliver | but i picked up the languages i try to speak with people i met in the street, railway, etc. |
| 18:59.45 | reliver | the languages i learned at school i almost totally forgot :-) |
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| 19:00.08 | reliver | (latin and greek) |
| 19:00.37 | sinplomo | puaf |
| 19:00.47 | reliver | same goes with my computer languages :-) |
| 19:01.17 | reliver | (cobol and pascal) |
| 19:01.52 | sinplomo | reliver, use lazarus :) |
| 19:02.07 | sinplomo | and code a good runner :) |
| 19:03.05 | reliver | lazarus, you recommend that language, sinplomo ? |
| 19:04.48 | sinplomo | lazarus is a compiler for pascal |
| 19:04.52 | sinplomo | one moment ... |
| 19:06.16 | sinplomo | reliver, http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ |
| 19:06.30 | sinplomo | reliver, http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=StaticPage&file=index&sURL=about |
| 19:07.20 | reliver | oh, sexy beast there :-) |
| 19:07.29 | reliver | lost on top of the hill ;-) |
| 19:07.59 | reliver | lazarus, wasn't that the guy that tried to save people ? |
| 19:08.38 | sinplomo | i don't know ... |
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| 19:11.21 | reliver | sounds great, sinplomo, but not ready yet, right ? |
| 19:11.47 | reliver | what are the firefox devs using to have their app running everywhere so well ? |
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| 19:13.30 | blizzard^ | ne funny apps I can play with? |
| 19:14.28 | reliver | wink, blizzard^, would you like to try wink ? |
| 19:14.37 | blizzard^ | whats wink? |
| 19:15.09 | reliver | http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Screenshotmovies |
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| 19:17.30 | blizzard^ | recording sessions to flash movies? |
| 19:17.35 | sinplomo | reliver, C or C++ ... |
| 19:17.38 | sinplomo | i don't know |
| 19:19.09 | blizzard^ | why would anyone want to see what kinda pr0n im watchin'? you would only judge me! =) |
| 19:19.19 | sinplomo | reliver, firefox is writeen in C |
| 19:19.53 | reliver | wow ... isn't that much more work ? |
| 19:20.47 | reliver | blizzard^ i don't mind :-) |
| 19:21.02 | reliver | i loath violence, not pron. |
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| 19:21.52 | reliver | would you like to try it to tell us if it works for you ? |
| 19:22.39 | reliver | sinplomo, all, what do you think about beagle ? |
| 19:23.07 | sinplomo | reliver, i didn't tried it yet |
| 19:23.10 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, wapa !! |
| 19:23.28 | reliver | and if we are on debian's bleeding edge, why is there still no firefox 1.0.7 ? |
| 19:23.56 | sinplomo | pack it yourself :P |
| 19:24.19 | reliver | what, firefox ? |
| 19:24.29 | Rasko|nikov | se sinplomo |
| 19:24.43 | Rasko|nikov | q bonito mi openbox + adesklets + pypanel |
| 19:24.52 | Rasko|nikov | el problema es q el pypanel no me coge todas las ventanas ^o) |
| 19:26.11 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, a que mola adeslet |
| 19:26.15 | sinplomo | y no chupan nada |
| 19:26.27 | Rasko|nikov | si si |
| 19:26.35 | Rasko|nikov | tengo puesto el panel lanzador ese to potito |
| 19:26.40 | Rasko|nikov | con los iconos lila |
| 19:26.48 | Rasko|nikov | y he puesto los lila en el nautilus |
| 19:27.12 | Rasko|nikov | q por cierto, corro en segundo planto tb el gnome-settings-daemon, q no xupa nada, pa q tire bien nautilus etc... |
| 19:27.28 | Rasko|nikov | y poder cambiar las opciones gtk* desde el gnome-control-center |
| 19:27.28 | Rasko|nikov | :) |
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| 19:33.35 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, zorra |
| 19:33.38 | sinplomo | que eres una zorra |
| 19:33.52 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 19:34.00 | Rasko|nikov | arg! |
| 19:34.08 | Rasko|nikov | pq el puto pypanel no me coge todas las ventanas? |
| 19:34.23 | Rasko|nikov | por ejemplo, xchat no aparece en la lista de ventanas pero nautilus si |
| 19:34.27 | Rasko|nikov | mmm |
| 19:34.29 | sinplomo | porque es un cabron |
| 19:34.36 | Rasko|nikov | ya te digo |
| 19:34.38 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, habia un panel en perl |
| 19:34.47 | sinplomo | busca en freshmet o en apt |
| 19:34.52 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, hazte tu panel |
| 19:34.53 | Rasko|nikov | mmm |
| 19:34.55 | sinplomo | xD |
| 19:34.55 | Rasko|nikov | xDDDD |
| 19:35.17 | sinplomo | a mi pypanel me coge xchat |
| 19:35.22 | sinplomo | sera cosa tuya |
| 19:35.30 | Rasko|nikov | cerdo xD |
| 19:35.38 | Rasko|nikov | no, si a veces lo coge |
| 19:35.44 | Rasko|nikov | el caso es q unas ventanas las coje y otras no |
| 19:35.51 | Rasko|nikov | lo mismo el openbox le engaña o algo |
| 19:36.08 | sinplomo | seguramente |
| 19:36.15 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, usa IceWM |
| 19:36.19 | sinplomo | o fvwm |
| 19:36.25 | Rasko|nikov | q no ostias! |
| 19:36.26 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 19:36.27 | sinplomo | bueno, mejor pillate fvwm-crystal |
| 19:36.32 | sinplomo | que esta configurado y tal |
| 19:36.33 | Rasko|nikov | fvwm caca |
| 19:36.35 | sinplomo | xD |
| 19:36.42 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, ostias en la iglesia |
| 19:36.44 | sinplomo | aqui se dan hostias |
| 19:36.50 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, caca tu |
| 19:37.28 | Rasko|nikov | xD |
| 19:37.46 | sinplomo | zoooorra !! |
| 19:37.50 | sinplomo | zoooorra !! |
| 19:37.50 | sinplomo | xD |
| 19:38.46 | reliver | no se, todo el dia caca, sera que va a interessar nuevos usuarios ? |
| 19:38.55 | Rasko|nikov | xDDD |
| 19:39.18 | sinplomo | fbpanel - A lightweight X11 desktop panel |
| 19:39.20 | sinplomo | fspanel - minimalist panel for X |
| 19:39.22 | sinplomo | prueba esos |
| 19:39.25 | sinplomo | xD |
| 19:39.36 | Rasko|nikov | ... |
| 19:39.37 | sinplomo | matchbox-panel - desktop panel for resource-limited systems |
| 19:39.39 | sinplomo | matchbox-panel-manager - panel manager for matchbox-panel |
| 19:39.43 | Rasko|nikov | 1 sec |
| 19:39.55 | Rasko|nikov | voy a probar si pypanle + twm funciona |
| 19:40.14 | sinplomo | twm .. |
| 19:40.21 | sinplomo | como has podido caer tan bajo .. |
| 19:40.36 | blizzard^ | Back! |
| 19:41.19 | blizzard^ | lemme check this wink out now |
| 19:41.48 | reliver | algien tiene una cuenta gmail que no mas necesita, o una invitacion ? |
| 19:42.11 | blizzard^ | que'pasa? |
| 19:42.22 | reliver | sure, i send it to you. |
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| 19:43.39 | reliver | do you see it, blizzard^ ? |
| 19:46.43 | blizzard^ | hehe, just checking... |
| 19:46.46 | blizzard^ | its kinda neat.. |
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| 19:46.50 | blizzard^ | tryin a capture atm... |
| 19:46.56 | blizzard^ | ash,. csi begins again, brb... |
| 19:47.00 | blizzard^ | pr0n 2 the ppl! =) |
| 19:47.56 | reliver | blizzard^, please register your nickname here. |
| 19:50.29 | blizzard^ | reliver; huh? |
| 19:50.35 | blizzard^ | register where? |
| 19:50.45 | reliver | with freenode. |
| 19:54.17 | blizzard^ | Done! |
| 19:55.25 | blizzard^ | worked like a sharm! |
| 19:55.38 | blizzard^ | wink even caught my Merged Framebuffer display =) |
| 19:56.29 | blizzard^ | neat and easy tool |
| 19:56.51 | blizzard^ | and didn't have any problems with my überhacked environment =) |
| 19:57.09 | blizzard^ | i've been pretty hard on this installation, with cutting edge stuff =) |
| 19:57.38 | sinplomo | O_o |
| 19:58.56 | reliver | oh, blizzard, you packaged it yourself ? installed it from the tarball ? |
| 19:58.57 | blizzard^ | the mouse-pointer is kinda lame tho :) |
| 19:59.06 | blizzard^ | tarball |
| 19:59.13 | reliver | wow. |
| 19:59.18 | blizzard^ | got the one from the unix-nerd mirror |
| 19:59.26 | blizzard^ | or whatever it's called |
| 19:59.33 | blizzard^ | installed as ordinary user, non root |
| 19:59.36 | reliver | so it works on Elive e16 ? |
| 19:59.40 | blizzard^ | uhm |
| 19:59.41 | blizzard^ | no? |
| 19:59.44 | blizzard^ | hehe |
| 19:59.47 | blizzard^ | Debian e17 =) |
| 19:59.55 | reliver | ah. good |
| 19:59.59 | blizzard^ | using the elvie e17 packages tho |
| 20:00.02 | blizzard^ | most of them |
| 20:00.12 | reliver | blizzard do you like Elive ? |
| 20:00.17 | blizzard^ | kinda messy since i've fucked around with the cvs and source aswell =) |
| 20:00.23 | blizzard^ | elvie is good |
| 20:00.40 | blizzard^ | still prefere my own debian installation tho, but the packages is great |
| 20:00.45 | reliver | what is missing for you ? |
| 20:00.49 | blizzard^ | hehe |
| 20:00.52 | blizzard^ | dont get me started |
| 20:00.54 | blizzard^ | =) |
| 20:01.15 | reliver | i think thanatermesis does not hold grudges ... |
| 20:01.19 | blizzard^ | i've used linux as default os for about 9 years, so I'm kinda odd, and wants stuff my way =) |
| 20:01.22 | reliver | just let loose :-) |
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| 20:01.30 | blizzard^ | well |
| 20:01.34 | blizzard^ | first out |
| 20:01.44 | blizzard^ | I wanna encrypt everything with aes-256 |
| 20:01.51 | blizzard^ | root, swap, everything |
| 20:01.54 | reliver | great idea. |
| 20:02.01 | reliver | ah... |
| 20:02.09 | blizzard^ | first problem, right? =) |
| 20:03.57 | reliver | not a problem, just surprising ... |
| 20:04.12 | blizzard^ | I need it |
| 20:04.18 | roxville | oh geeks, you who know everything, and on who the sun always shines... |
| 20:04.20 | blizzard^ | unix-consultant with a lappy =) |
| 20:04.36 | blizzard^ | cant run around with unencrypted customer stuff |
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| 20:04.48 | roxville | what's the command for compressing a folder? |
| 20:04.51 | blizzard^ | and... im paranoid =) |
| 20:05.11 | reliver | good. |
| 20:05.30 | blizzard^ | roxville: just tar it and bzip it |
| 20:06.10 | reliver | are you using etch ? |
| 20:07.00 | blizzard^ | testing/unstable |
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| 20:07.52 | reliver | thats testing+unstable ? |
| 20:07.56 | blizzard^ | naah |
| 20:08.00 | blizzard^ | its etch |
| 20:08.08 | blizzard^ | since testing/unstable still is the same |
| 20:08.08 | reliver | ok |
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| 20:08.31 | blizzard^ | but unstable will be sid when testing/unstable gets separated again |
| 20:08.33 | Rasko|nikov | sinplomo, enlightenment no hay quien lo entienda xD |
| 20:08.35 | Rasko|nikov | yo quiero openbox, pero q funcione! |
| 20:11.25 | Rasko|nikov | sinplomo, lee la descripcion del openbox del paquete debian |
| 20:11.30 | Rasko|nikov | en mi caso, solo me causa risa xD |
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| 20:11.42 | blizzard^ | uhm |
| 20:11.58 | blizzard^ | que'pasa? |
| 20:13.43 | blizzard^ | dumdidum... |
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| 20:15.20 | sinplomo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.23 | sinplomo | xDDD |
| 20:15.54 | sinplomo | Rasko|nikov, usa fluxbox sin la barra de abajo |
| 20:17.53 | blizzard^ | hehe |
| 20:17.58 | blizzard^ | fluxbox, I understood that! =) |
| 20:18.56 | roxville | lol blizzard^ |
| 20:20.10 | blizzard^ | fluxbox is my little favourite windowmanager |
| 20:20.15 | blizzard^ | but, e17 is gettin' to me |
| 20:20.34 | blizzard^ | its damn fast, tho it has alot of eyecandy! |
| 20:21.20 | roxville | yep, it's gaining on me too...and e16 also, despite it's age...nice! |
| 20:22.07 | blizzard^ | naah e16, never liked that |
| 20:22.13 | blizzard^ | I want clean and damn fast |
| 20:22.45 | blizzard^ | e17 is ok since I've got all the annoyin' stuff stuffed away, and only what I really need on the desk... |
| 20:22.48 | roxville | i can tell... from your nick :) |
| 20:22.57 | blizzard^ | uhm |
| 20:22.59 | blizzard^ | u lost me there |
| 20:23.41 | reliver | e17 is stable for you ? |
| 20:23.53 | roxville | <blizzard^> I want clean and damn fast |
| 20:24.18 | roxville | a blizzard can be pretty fast...hard winds... nm lol |
| 20:24.20 | blizzard^ | yes |
| 20:24.21 | blizzard^ | kinda |
| 20:24.46 | blizzard^ | i've have had some problems with some apps, like launchin' xterm makes it crash etc |
| 20:24.52 | blizzard^ | but launchin' Eterm works like a sharm |
| 20:24.58 | blizzard^ | so, wtf, I wanted Eterm anyway =) |
| 20:25.12 | blizzard^ | its kinda stable as long as I avoid certain stuff =) |
| 20:25.31 | blizzard^ | roxville: haha, so thats' what u ment =) |
| 20:26.40 | reliver | <blizzard^> but unstable will be sid when testing/unstable gets separated again |
| 20:26.56 | reliver | i need to add that to the wiki. |
| 20:27.32 | reliver | is thanatermesis aiming for testing or unstable ? |
| 20:28.03 | blizzard^ | =) |
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| 20:28.50 | blizzard^ | thing is, When Testing became Stable, Unstable became Testing, and since it's still the latest, its Unstable aswell |
| 20:28.52 | blizzard^ | for a while |
| 20:30.03 | reliver | i do understand you. |
| 20:30.41 | reliver | do you know if thanatermesis is aiming for testing or unstable ? |
| 20:31.22 | blizzard^ | btw, why isn't the packages signed? |
| 20:32.27 | reliver | let's ask him. |
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| 20:33.06 | reliver | would you like to sign them ;-) |
| 20:34.29 | reliver | and you, blizzard^, are you aiming for testing or unstable, later ? |
| 20:35.19 | blizzard^ | unstable |
| 20:35.38 | blizzard^ | simply becaus im a stuff-freak, and wants to try the latest all the time =) |
| 20:35.51 | blizzard^ | and I can handle situations when stuff gets broken |
| 20:36.40 | Rasko|nikov | sinplomo, |
| 20:36.50 | Rasko|nikov | a) como le quito la barra a fluxbox? |
| 20:36.59 | Rasko|nikov | b) fluxbox tiene un rendimiento mu malo xD |
| 20:37.06 | blizzard^ | Rasko|nikov: como le quita la barra a openbox? |
| 20:37.20 | Rasko|nikov | blizzard^, que? |
| 20:37.47 | blizzard^ | dunno, I dont know the language, have pretty much no clue what u wrote =) |
| 20:37.49 | Rasko|nikov | sinplomo, voy a compilar el ultimo openbox desde las fuentes |
| 20:37.54 | Rasko|nikov | lol |
| 20:38.08 | Rasko|nikov | blizzard^, i meant: how do I remove the panel from Fluxbox? |
| 20:38.33 | blizzard^ | ah |
| 20:38.36 | blizzard^ | which panel? |
| 20:38.43 | blizzard^ | if its the one I think |
| 20:39.01 | blizzard^ | just use the menu, and inactivate "visible" |
| 20:39.05 | Rasko|nikov | the tasksbar panel |
| 20:39.11 | blizzard^ | yah |
| 20:39.18 | Rasko|nikov | oh |
| 20:39.26 | Rasko|nikov | mmm |
| 20:39.32 | blizzard^ | from what I recall, menu->fluxbox->system(?)->menu->Visible |
| 20:39.37 | blizzard^ | or something like that |
| 20:39.40 | Rasko|nikov | ok, thanx :) |
| 20:39.45 | blizzard^ | you can also choose autohide |
| 20:40.03 | blizzard^ | and it will be a 1pixel high bar, which pops up when you are in the proximity |
| 20:40.06 | blizzard^ | of it |
| 20:40.24 | Rasko|nikov | the thing is that i want to use pypanel instead |
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| 20:40.59 | blizzard^ | why? |
| 20:41.48 | Elive_user | hola |
| 20:42.08 | Rasko|nikov | because i prefer it lol |
| 20:43.18 | blizzard^ | haha |
| 20:43.40 | blizzard^ | just wanted to know if there was any obvious reasons :) |
| 20:43.52 | reliver | blizzard^, thanks for the information, today someone told me here that testing was the bleeding edge, so confusion reigns ... |
| 20:44.04 | blizzard^ | =) |
| 20:44.24 | blizzard^ | only because testing is unstable, and vice versa... but in a while, it wont be ne more |
| 20:45.14 | blizzard^ | reliver: do u run testing/unstable? |
| 20:45.57 | Rasko|nikov | in fact, the most obvious reason is that its both simple, fast and, in its way, really beautiful |
| 20:45.58 | Rasko|nikov | :) |
| 20:46.16 | Rasko|nikov | mmm, I'm starting to like fluxbox lol |
| 20:46.24 | blizzard^ | Rasko|nikov: sounds like a really good reason, thats why fluxbox is my favourite... |
| 20:46.44 | blizzard^ | and if it can be even faster and more beautiful, i will definitly check out pybar |
| 20:46.50 | blizzard^ | or whatever it was called =) |
| 20:47.02 | Rasko|nikov | pypanel is its name |
| 20:47.22 | Rasko|nikov | whuou, flux + adesklets + pypanel rules lol |
| 20:47.36 | blizzard^ | ah =) |
| 20:47.38 | reliver | yes, Elive. |
| 20:47.39 | blizzard^ | tnx |
| 20:47.47 | blizzard^ | reliver: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 20:47.52 | blizzard^ | tell me what it says =) |
| 20:48.41 | Rasko|nikov | lol, i didn't remember that i had already configure my hot-keys in fluxbox |
| 20:48.51 | reliver | yes, confirmed :-) |
| 20:49.31 | reliver | blizzard, i can not copy from the terminal, how do you do that ? |
| 20:49.50 | blizzard^ | uhm |
| 20:49.53 | blizzard^ | mark |
| 20:50.00 | blizzard^ | for copy |
| 20:50.30 | blizzard^ | and then, press "middle mousebutton", or both left+right if u dont have the third mousebutton |
| 20:50.52 | reliver | i don't have a "middle mousebutton" ... |
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| 20:51.05 | blizzard^ | well, right and left at the same time then |
| 20:51.12 | reliver | both left and right is configured but does not work ... |
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| 20:51.41 | blizzard^ | uhm |
| 20:51.42 | blizzard^ | odd |
| 20:51.45 | blizzard^ | odd |
| 20:51.51 | blizzard^ | odd was copied and pasted =) |
| 20:51.53 | reliver | my usb mouse goes through an old mouse adapter into the pc. |
| 20:51.59 | blizzard^ | doesnt matter |
| 20:52.01 | blizzard^ | should work anyway |
| 20:52.08 | blizzard^ | what terminal? |
| 20:52.19 | blizzard^ | ash, wtf, just type what it say =) |
| 20:52.27 | blizzard^ | shouldn't be more than one row =) |
| 20:52.38 | reliver | of course, i confirmed earlier :-) |
| 20:52.54 | reliver | testing/unstable |
| 20:53.00 | blizzard^ | yes |
| 20:53.12 | blizzard^ | now, why do you think it ways testing/unstable |
| 20:53.18 | blizzard^ | and not testing or unstable =) |
| 20:53.34 | reliver | i do understand you, blizzard, why do you insist ? |
| 20:53.45 | blizzard^ | proof of concept =) |
| 20:53.51 | blizzard^ | done now ;) |
| 20:54.06 | reliver | i said there are others her confusing testing and unstable. |
| 20:54.13 | reliver | i said there are others here confusing testing and unstable. |
| 20:54.34 | blizzard^ | and now u know how to show 'em :) |
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| 20:54.53 | espasmodicos | enass |
| 20:55.47 | blizzard^ | question: how can I achive transparency with erss? |
| 20:56.14 | blizzard^ | and still run edje backgrounds |
| 20:56.35 | roxville | good question blizz |
| 20:56.42 | espasmodicos | Thanatermesis, puedo hacerte una pregunta de kernels? |
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| 21:02.27 | *** topic/#elive is Wiki + Club Elive http://club.elivecd.org || Is the world prepared for Elive? || Open your mind with the elive-essence: "xmms http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/1035" || You might find the answers to your question in the DOC sections at www.elivecd.org please, take a look at these pages before you ask anything || New forum: www.edevelop.org/forum/elive || Questions for enlightenment: #e #e.fr #e.es |
| 21:06.02 | reliver | do you like it, blizzard^ ?: http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Debian |
| 21:13.22 | sinplomo | Rasko |
| 21:13.24 | sinplomo | buah |
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| 21:20.14 | roxville | Thanatermesis, i have the new eaps ...send it to ya? |
| 21:22.12 | blizzard^ | was away for a while |
| 21:22.12 | blizzard^ | <reliver> do you like it, blizzard^ ?: |
| 21:22.15 | blizzard^ | like what? |
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| 21:22.50 | reliver | http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Debian |
| 21:23.01 | reliver | i just made it with your explanations. |
| 21:23.32 | reliver | blizzard^, when will testing/unstable be separated again and what will be the new code names ? |
| 21:24.00 | blizzard^ | ah, dunno |
| 21:24.20 | blizzard^ | just recall release notes from stable |
| 21:25.30 | blizzard^ | lemme check |
| 21:26.10 | roxville | good job reliver :) |
| 21:26.27 | roxville | hello eddan |
| 21:26.57 | reliver | hello roxville, thank you, not yet :-) |
| 21:27.17 | roxville | eller ska vi sige hei? |
| 21:27.26 | blizzard^ | hejhej =) |
| 21:29.07 | roxville | blizz... sverige? |
| 21:30.30 | eddan | hi, reliver. Vi kan si hei :) |
| 21:30.46 | eddan | When did you learn norwegian? |
| 21:31.00 | roxville | nei eddan, reliver kann ikke sige hei..men jeg kann :) |
| 21:31.22 | eddan | ah, sorry. Er du dansk? |
| 21:31.42 | roxville | svensk |
| 21:32.00 | reliver | i never learned norwegian, unfortunately, eddan :-) |
| 21:32.10 | roxville | jeg snakker ikke mye norsk, men litt blir det |
| 21:32.43 | roxville | blizzard^, is from sweden, right |
| 21:32.46 | roxville | ? |
| 21:35.11 | blizzard^ | roxville: yes |
| 21:35.41 | blizzard^ | reliver: looks good |
| 21:36.20 | roxville | tänkte väl det |
| 21:37.34 | blizzard^ | det tänkte jag med =) |
| 21:38.28 | coagen | i still cant get cd's to burn |
| 21:38.30 | coagen | argh |
| 21:38.44 | coagen | nero linux doesnt even work for me |
| 21:39.11 | blizzard^ | use k3b |
| 21:40.11 | coagen | argh i hate kde |
| 21:40.25 | blizzard^ | reliver: hum, I begin to question if testing/unstable actually has been separated |
| 21:40.47 | blizzard^ | coagen, well. u could use kdelib-based apps without kde, u know that huh? =) |
| 21:41.18 | coagen | yes |
| 21:41.23 | coagen | i know |
| 21:41.44 | coagen | i also know to use k3b i'd have to install 17 packages and 80 megs of kde trash |
| 21:41.54 | coagen | :\ |
| 21:42.16 | reliver | yes, there is some contradiction somewhere ... |
| 21:42.49 | reliver | my computer against debian :-) hahaha :-) |
| 21:43.01 | blizzard^ | coagen, thats the backside |
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| 21:47.15 | roxville | coagen, can not burn in gnome baker? |
| 21:47.27 | coagen | roxville: yes |
| 21:47.38 | roxville | uninstall and reinstall it |
| 21:47.40 | coagen | roxville: i get a buffer error |
| 21:47.45 | coagen | did that already |
| 21:47.48 | coagen | didnt fix it |
| 21:48.08 | roxville | ok... buffer, yeah... i did not get that |
| 21:49.37 | roxville | actually coagen, in elive k3b does not drag with it as much stuff as.. say... u does |
| 21:49.46 | coagen | specific error is : cdrecord: Cannot allocate memory. Cannot get SCSI I/O buffer. |
| 21:50.46 | roxville | coz elive has it installed already |
| 21:51.08 | blizzard^ | testing/unstable is splitted, but almost everything is the same atm |
| 21:51.17 | blizzard^ | dropped into the debian channel and asked |
| 21:52.37 | reliver | thanks, blizzard^, great you are still alive :-) |
| 21:53.11 | reliver | and what are the plans, or do you have to kill me if you tell me ? |
| 21:54.32 | roxville | coagen, have you upgraded your elive? |
| 21:54.44 | coagen | yeah |
| 21:55.12 | roxville | do you know what kernel you are running? |
| 21:55.39 | coagen | Linux coagen.ath.cx 2.6.13-ck6 #1 Sat Oct 1 19:56:54 EDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 21:56.24 | coagen | compiled it the other day |
| 21:56.37 | coagen | i wonder if i forgot something important in it |
| 21:56.40 | coagen | :| |
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| 21:57.22 | coagen | i will try the default kernel again to see if it works there |
| 21:57.39 | roxville | not sure... it used to be a bug in 2.6.8, but it should be fixed by now, eh? |
| 21:57.49 | coagen | yeah i found that on google |
| 21:58.01 | coagen | so i was confused as to why i still had the bug |
| 21:58.14 | roxville | did you also try reinstalling cdrecord? |
| 21:58.31 | coagen | that i did not do |
| 21:58.35 | coagen | i will do it now |
| 21:59.00 | roxville | try that...then weäll look at other stuff...hopefully not |
| 21:59.17 | roxville | damn, gotta swicth keyb layout |
| 21:59.54 | roxville | ok blizzard^ jag ville bara säja att svenska funkar... men lite dåligt på us keyboard |
| 22:01.13 | eddan | xorg.conf is your friend :) |
| 22:03.04 | coagen | bah! |
| 22:03.12 | coagen | xorg.conf is a bitch |
| 22:03.14 | reliver | coagen, hello :-) |
| 22:03.15 | coagen | :P |
| 22:03.29 | coagen | i am trying to get a second monitor working... |
| 22:03.37 | coagen | reliver: hi hi |
| 22:04.00 | eddan | xconf didn't help you out, coagen? |
| 22:04.26 | roxville | what graphics card do you have coagen? |
| 22:04.33 | coagen | nvidia |
| 22:04.33 | elive-bot | coagen: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html Drivers de nvidia para *nix , traen un instalador muy lindo! ;-) |
| 22:05.21 | reliver | roxville i have a problem with the lack of integration of the different parts of our TikiWiki 1.8.5 ... |
| 22:05.29 | coagen | yeah i've been trying to install the nvidia driver |
| 22:05.29 | roxville | the "u" howto's are pretty good at explaining... i have a conf for mirroring if you want |
| 22:05.34 | coagen | cant get that to work either |
| 22:05.34 | coagen | haha |
| 22:05.38 | reliver | for example, http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=8&forumId=2 |
| 22:05.57 | reliver | about how to mount external USB drives ... |
| 22:06.27 | reliver | there seem to be different proposed solutions on the wiki about this already ? |
| 22:07.48 | reliver | coagen, what is the best way for me as newbie to make my external usb drive work in Elive ? |
| 22:07.52 | reliver | http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=8&forumId=2 ? |
| 22:08.08 | reliver | or your kernel voodoo ? |
| 22:09.48 | eddan | reliver: uninstall udev and it works fine (for me atleast) :) |
| 22:09.59 | reliver | blizzard^ do you know something about how debian wants to handle etch/sid in the near future ? |
| 22:10.10 | reliver | ah, ok. |
| 22:11.08 | blizzard^ | reliver: waddaya wanna know? |
| 22:11.46 | reliver | you have to love those sweet little tips they whisper into your ears after midnight on the #elive channel :-) |
| 22:11.57 | roxville | yeah coagen, i gave up the nvidia drivers too... didn't do a kernel install either, just the upgrade |
| 22:12.18 | blizzard^ | default policy is that new packages stay in unstable for a while. 2,5,10 days... and if they seems like they are ok, and contains the same amount or less release_critical bugs than the version in testing, they will make their way into testing |
| 22:12.20 | roxville | but the nvidia logo loads at startup, so...it's ok i guess |
| 22:12.36 | blizzard^ | and when testing is "good enough" they will do a freeze |
| 22:12.44 | roxville | brb...or bbl...dunno yet |
| 22:12.45 | blizzard^ | makin' sure its stable |
| 22:13.03 | blizzard^ | and without any release-critical bugs |
| 22:13.09 | reliver | blizzard^, the answer from cat /etc/debian_version currently contradicts what debian is writing, |
| 22:13.22 | reliver | how are thy planning to solve this contradiction ? |
| 22:13.47 | blizzard^ | and then they will do the deep freeze, and when they are comforable with that, they will release testing as stable.. |
| 22:13.56 | blizzard^ | yeah, I know, it's buggin' me aswell.. |
| 22:14.39 | blizzard^ | I guess they are prolly thinkin' that since testing and unstable is 99% the same, they can call it testing/unstable, even tho they are separate and the differences will grow and grow |
| 22:15.00 | reliver | eddan it looks like udev is not installed on my Elive ... |
| 22:15.01 | blizzard^ | not easy to get an answer in the deb chan, pretty much folks, pretty many talking at the same time.. |
| 22:15.20 | blizzard^ | and there's no good info to dig up on the web either... atleast not that I've discovered so far.. |
| 22:15.24 | eddan | reliver: Ok, then I don't know |
| 22:15.32 | reliver | they just hate people like you and me, totally despise them, blizzard^ ... |
| 22:16.21 | blizzard^ | some are good, some are bad |
| 22:16.39 | reliver | are any good ones in the hierarchy, blizzard^ ? |
| 22:17.05 | blizzard^ | I dont blame 'em... there's really alot of folks asking the same questions over and over, and it's kinda hard to spot those who really has a valid question... |
| 22:17.28 | blizzard^ | mhall was the one who answered upon the question regarding if testing/unstable was the same repos |
| 22:17.43 | blizzard^ | but he could have been an ordinary guy, just like you and me, aswell |
| 22:17.49 | blizzard^ | just knowing the answer.. |
| 22:17.54 | blizzard^ | wasn't opedf |
| 22:17.55 | blizzard^ | wasn't oped |
| 22:18.37 | coagen | reliver: i think the document on the wiki is good |
| 22:19.12 | blizzard^ | ...I need UMD-pr0n... |
| 22:19.43 | coagen | apt-get install UMD-pr0n |
| 22:19.48 | coagen | :D |
| 22:20.17 | reliver | can you please do a reload, blizzard^ ? your input sits there unresolved at the moment. |
| 22:20.50 | reliver | ah, sorry, i confused with coagen ... |
| 22:21.33 | blizzard^ | if it only was that easy =) |
| 22:21.45 | blizzard^ | haha |
| 22:21.52 | blizzard^ | no fuck I got confused =) |
| 22:21.53 | reliver | coagen, so i need to install udev first, coagen ? |
| 22:22.42 | coagen | reliver: yeah i think so |
| 22:23.06 | coagen | reliver: honestly i dont do much with usb except mount my flash drive |
| 22:23.12 | reliver | usbmount too, coagen ? |
| 22:23.42 | coagen | reliver: i really think i'm the wrong person to ask about this |
| 22:24.31 | coagen | when i plug in my flash drive or my camera |
| 22:24.34 | reliver | pity thanatermesis is not here ... mounting external USB drives is important to many users ... |
| 22:24.43 | coagen | all I have to do is mount /dev/sda1 |
| 22:25.37 | eddan | Same thing for me as for coagen regarding my usb devices |
| 22:25.51 | reliver | to what directory do you mount it, coagen ? |
| 22:26.14 | reliver | i try it first as you say... |
| 22:26.21 | reliver | as root, mkdir ? |
| 22:26.21 | coagen | reliver: it is already set up in fstab as the default elive install goes i think to be /mnt/sda1 |
| 22:26.42 | coagen | reliver: do ls /mnt |
| 22:26.50 | coagen | and see if sda1 is already there |
| 22:27.52 | reliver | i see sda1 there ... |
| 22:28.00 | reliver | so i try to format it ? |
| 22:28.41 | coagen | reliver: try to mount it first |
| 22:28.49 | coagen | reliver: and see if there is already a file system |
| 22:28.58 | coagen | do mount /dev/sda1 |
| 22:29.01 | reliver | it is a brand new drive. |
| 22:29.03 | reliver | ok. |
| 22:29.13 | reliver | as root, all this ? |
| 22:29.16 | coagen | yes |
| 22:30.08 | reliver | "you must specify the filesystem type" |
| 22:30.30 | coagen | reliver do mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 |
| 22:30.34 | coagen | try that |
| 22:31.33 | sHR00m | you have to partition it and do a mkfs.xx on /dev/sda1-x |
| 22:31.43 | sHR00m | and after that you can mount it |
| 22:31.53 | coagen | yeah i was about to tell him that |
| 22:31.55 | coagen | :P |
| 22:31.58 | reliver | it replies with mount usage instructions: i think the dir is missing in your command. |
| 22:31.59 | sHR00m | sure ;) |
| 22:32.13 | coagen | yeah sHR00m is right you should just format it |
| 22:32.44 | reliver | coagen, can i format it so it will be useable on linux, mac and windows ? |
| 22:33.09 | sHR00m | reliver, yes |
| 22:33.13 | reliver | OSX that is. |
| 22:33.33 | reliver | in windows, i know how to install fs-driver.org |
| 22:33.50 | coagen | sHR00m: yeah just format it as Vfat and you can read it from all of them |
| 22:33.52 | sHR00m | just to a specific mkfs and maybe set the right partition-kind in fdisk |
| 22:33.53 | reliver | but will the unix file-system work on mac too ? |
| 22:34.30 | reliver | vfat is a big problem with linux because it is not case sensitive. |
| 22:34.31 | coagen | reliver: yeah i think so |
| 22:34.41 | coagen | reliver: oh yeah? |
| 22:34.44 | coagen | didnt know that |
| 22:34.48 | sHR00m | reliver, sure it is.. |
| 22:34.56 | sHR00m | it has no permissions |
| 22:35.04 | sHR00m | but as a storage its fine |
| 22:35.14 | reliver | no, i tried it, it is not case sensitive. |
| 22:36.12 | sHR00m | it doesnt allow you to write case sensitive filenames, but it knows what case sensitive is, the filenames arent all big or little |
| 22:36.37 | sHR00m | if you dont plan to backup your linux hd on it.. no problem |
| 22:36.50 | coagen | reliver: vfat is the only filesystem readable and writeable from all of them as far as i know |
| 22:37.08 | coagen | unless you install ext2fsd in windows |
| 22:37.13 | reliver | http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2005-June/msg00017.html |
| 22:37.17 | sHR00m | coagen, ntfs is working too with a tool.. forgot the name. but vfat should be better, yes |
| 22:37.21 | coagen | then you can read and write ext2/3 partitions in windows |
| 22:37.23 | blizzard^ | gnite |
| 22:37.34 | coagen | sHR00m: yeah ntfs is crap anyway ;) |
| 22:37.37 | sHR00m | coagen, uuh isnt that extremely buggy? |
| 22:37.42 | sHR00m | ext2fsd |
| 22:37.48 | coagen | sHR00m: no i used it for ever it works great |
| 22:37.58 | coagen | sHR00m: it used to be buggy a long time ago |
| 22:38.03 | sHR00m | what i would do is install xp on ext3 |
| 22:38.09 | coagen | haha |
| 22:38.12 | coagen | hahahhaha |
| 22:38.18 | sHR00m | cause linux filesystems have no fragmentation, vfat, ntfs etc dows |
| 22:38.19 | sHR00m | does |
| 22:38.27 | coagen | you cant do that |
| 22:38.33 | sHR00m | thats sad :) |
| 22:38.36 | coagen | i know |
| 22:38.40 | coagen | it is :\ |
| 22:38.51 | reliver | shr00m you had "Test.txt" and "test.txt" in the same dir on vfat ? |
| 22:39.21 | coagen | reliver: just be more careful about your file naming |
| 22:39.26 | coagen | jeez :P |
| 22:39.38 | sHR00m | reliver, no thats not working. but you dont have a problem, as long you dont plan to backup linux specific dir structures, symlinks or so |
| 22:39.48 | sHR00m | to have data reachable for both sides its ok |
| 22:39.53 | coagen | reliver do mkfx.vfat /dev/sda1 |
| 22:40.00 | coagen | reliver: then you should be able to mount it |
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| 22:40.40 | coagen | reliver: of course you could just make separate partitions for each one....... |
| 22:40.44 | sHR00m | im glad to doesnt use windows anymore ;) |
| 22:40.46 | reliver | i think i understand, coagen. |
| 22:41.04 | coagen | sHR00m: i hate windows... EXCEPT FOR THE KICKASS GAMES |
| 22:41.08 | coagen | hehehe |
| 22:41.09 | reliver | so you say on Elive vfat will be case-preserving ? |
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| 22:41.13 | roxville | Thanatermesis, i have the eaps with the new icons ready |
| 22:41.29 | coagen | reliver: vfat will not be case preserving EVER |
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| 22:41.50 | coagen | afaik |
| 22:41.56 | coagen | sHR00m: am i right on that? |
| 22:41.59 | reliver | see http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2005-June/msg00017.html coagen. |
| 22:42.02 | sHR00m | coagen, sure |
| 22:42.40 | reliver | it is not case sensitive, but can be mounted case-preserving, they write. |
| 22:42.58 | sHR00m | was meinen sie nun ;) |
| 22:43.01 | roxville | nite blizzard^ ... sov gott |
| 22:43.08 | sHR00m | also das es case sensitive ist von den dateinamen her weiss ich definitiv |
| 22:43.25 | reliver | this question is of important because otherwise i will have rsync errors for hours ... |
| 22:43.29 | sHR00m | das es keine doppelbelegung zulässt is auch relativ klar, was meinen sie nun |
| 22:43.37 | coagen | reliver: ok lemmie check the manpage |
| 22:43.40 | reliver | ja, da haben sie recht. |
| 22:45.07 | sHR00m | reliver, but it is the question if windows reads this correct |
| 22:45.15 | coagen | ja mein dutsch ist sehr schlet |
| 22:45.17 | coagen | hehe |
| 22:45.21 | sHR00m | written case preserving |
| 22:45.34 | sHR00m | coagen, i only do this if it has to go fast :P |
| 22:45.51 | coagen | sHR00m: i'm taking a class in german at my university ;) |
| 22:46.13 | reliver | shr00m, ah. |
| 22:46.14 | sHR00m | very nice. where are you from? |
| 22:47.07 | reliver | well, in windows, installing fs-driver.org works great for working with ext3. |
| 22:47.26 | sHR00m | well you might try this |
| 22:47.34 | coagen | sHR00m: richmond, ky, usa |
| 22:47.38 | reliver | so ext3 would be perfect, if i can work with it on OSX. |
| 22:47.45 | sHR00m | maybe its not bad to use 2-3 partitions |
| 22:48.10 | reliver | good idea, yes. |
| 22:48.44 | sHR00m | coagen, it isnt too bad, by the way. your german *g* |
| 22:49.37 | coagen | danke |
| 22:49.45 | reliver | look what they write: |
| 22:49.49 | reliver | "I can use Ext2FS on my ibook to mount and use the ext3 partitions." |
| 22:49.57 | reliver | so ext3 is great, no ? |
| 22:50.27 | sHR00m | coagen can say more to this. i used one and it was buggy but it may not be the same |
| 22:50.51 | Thanatermesis | good roxville , thanks :) But in this moment i need to close the computer (DVD with gl ;)), tomorow... yes, tomorrow send me ;) |
| 22:51.02 | coagen | reliver: use ext2fsd if you want to mount ext2 or ext3 in windows |
| 22:51.28 | reliver | why not fs-driver.org's driver, coagen ? |
| 22:51.56 | coagen | reliver: use it if you want, i have no experience with it |
| 22:52.00 | roxville | ok Thanatermesis , will do! :) |
| 22:52.17 | coagen | reliver: i can tell you however that ext2fsd works great for me |
| 22:52.35 | reliver | coagen, can i easily create a small vfat partition and a big ext3 on that drive now ? |
| 22:52.49 | coagen | reliver: yes i believe so |
| 22:52.58 | coagen | reliver: do cfdisk /dev/sda1 |
| 22:53.48 | reliver | fatal error: cannot open disk drive. |
| 22:53.54 | Thanatermesis | fdisk -l |
| 22:54.22 | eddan | ah! sweet! couldn't get the evolume-0.0.9 module that is in the repos to work, but after compiling and installing the new evolume-0.0.10 it works like a charm. What a nice little module |
| 22:54.23 | coagen | reliver: haha that sucks |
| 22:54.48 | coagen | never tried to partiton a usb hd tho... so i didnt know whether it would work or not |
| 22:54.56 | coagen | guess not |
| 22:54.57 | coagen | haha |
| 22:55.14 | Thanatermesis | '--==(~/elive/elpanel)==--> apt-cache search evolume |
| 22:55.14 | Thanatermesis | evolume - evolume its a module for enlightenment 17 (e17) for mix your volumes of the sound card |
| 22:55.23 | Thanatermesis | yes, version 0.9, I need to upgrade, and the EFL :) |
| 22:56.11 | reliver | thanatermesis, quiero formatear y usar un nuevo harddisk externo usb. |
| 22:56.22 | reliver | tenho que instalar udev ? |
| 22:57.07 | eddan | Thanatermesis: http://rec0.rec.smr.ru/davinchi/public/e17/ (evolume-0.0.10 |
| 22:57.09 | eddan | ( |
| 22:57.10 | eddan | ) |
| 22:57.12 | eddan | ) |
| 22:57.13 | eddan | :) |
| 22:57.21 | Thanatermesis | no necesitas udev, pero quizas sea mas facil |
| 22:57.30 | Thanatermesis | ok eddan , I add this in the bookmarks ;) |
| 22:58.55 | reliver | hello eshep |
| 22:59.04 | eshep | eddan, what is fixed from .9 to .10? |
| 22:59.07 | eddan | Thanatermesis: Just FYI, the author behind evolume decided to stop working on it due to some personal stuff/problems |
| 22:59.08 | Thanaway | brb all |
| 22:59.09 | eshep | hi reliver |
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| 22:59.47 | reliver | did you make an external usb disk work in Elive eshep ? |
| 22:59.55 | eddan | eshep: No clue, changelog doesn't say anything as far as I could see.. But atleast it works for me now.. Although I didn't try compiling my own 0.0.9, so it might just be it fixed my problem because of this |
| 23:00.05 | eshep | reliver, two answers |
| 23:00.25 | eshep | it works fine for me in the livecd |
| 23:00.36 | reliver | ah. |
| 23:00.41 | eshep | it wont mount at all in the hd install |
| 23:00.43 | eshep | ??? |
| 23:00.48 | reliver | oh: gparted can not be installed ... |
| 23:01.10 | reliver | it is a new disk, eshep. |
| 23:01.20 | reliver | but i could try with another one too. |
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| 23:01.34 | eshep | eddan, i use .9 and it works great so i think ill wait |
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| 23:02.13 | eshep | reliver, not real new but...it does work |
| 23:03.13 | reliver | ok, i am trying with an old external hd now. |
| 23:03.29 | reliver | what mount command should i try first ? |
| 23:03.48 | eshep | try right click in evidence |
| 23:04.10 | eshep | ~/devices/sda1 |
| 23:04.29 | eshep | that works from the livecd |
| 23:05.08 | reliver | in evidence, i am in / |
| 23:05.09 | coagen | reliver: have you formatted the drive yet? |
| 23:05.17 | reliver | what dir should i right-click ? |
| 23:05.27 | coagen | reliver: i have the mount options for you to preserve case in vfat... |
| 23:05.38 | reliver | coagen, i am trying with an old formated one now first ... |
| 23:05.55 | coagen | reliver: then just do mount /dev/sda1 |
| 23:06.42 | reliver | great, coagen, let's put them into http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Mount |
| 23:06.52 | eshep | reliver, ~/devices/sda1 |
| 23:07.18 | reliver | mount /dev/sda1 done |
| 23:07.52 | eshep | now ls /media/usb |
| 23:08.19 | reliver | it works, thanks coagen and eshep :-) |
| 23:08.45 | eshep | reliver, did you use the rclick |
| 23:08.47 | reliver | i did not have to follow any of the long instructions on the wiki ... |
| 23:09.15 | eshep | well just make a shorter one |
| 23:09.24 | reliver | eshep, i used in the terminal as root: mount /dev/sda1 |
| 23:09.38 | reliver | shall we try the evidence way too ? |
| 23:09.47 | eshep | reliver, try the rclick method |
| 23:09.57 | eshep | please |
| 23:10.02 | reliver | ok, so i unmount it first now ? |
| 23:10.47 | reliver | umount /dev/sda1 ? |
| 23:10.54 | eshep | yup |
| 23:11.38 | reliver | oh, i see, i am in evidence $home now. |
| 23:11.53 | eshep | right |
| 23:11.54 | reliver | i right-click on Devices, and ? |
| 23:11.57 | roxville | ohaio |
| 23:12.07 | eshep | correctamundo |
| 23:12.16 | eshep | ohaio, roxville |
| 23:12.46 | reliver | Folder:Mount this Folder |
| 23:12.59 | eshep | bingo |
| 23:13.30 | reliver | it is working too, eshep :-) |
| 23:13.41 | eshep | hmmm :/ |
| 23:14.07 | reliver | but i think the mount command does not need to be made on Devices, but on $home/Devices/sda1, possible ? |
| 23:14.32 | coagen | reliver: the options thats would preserve case and allow two files of the same name with different case are "posix" and "shortname=winnt" |
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| 23:19.04 | eshep | sorry guys, gotta get back to work |
| 23:19.09 | reliver | great, eddan :-) |
| 23:19.39 | coagen | eddan: lol |
| 23:19.39 | damosu | eddan, xDD |
| 23:20.50 | roxville | eddan is the name of the old viking-stories by snorre sturlason... pretty cool reading |
| 23:21.01 | roxville | OLD book |
| 23:21.05 | reliver | would someone like to guide me through formating the new drive with 10GB vfat and 220 ext3 ? |
| 23:21.50 | coagen | reliver: the usb drive? |
| 23:21.55 | reliver | yes. |
| 23:21.58 | eddan | roxville: Yup, where I got my nick from originally.. Allthough I'm not too into "norrøn mytologi" as we say in Norwegian, but it's a good story. |
| 23:22.03 | damosu | apt x en es would someone like to guide me through formating the new drive with 10GB vfat and 220 ext3 ? |
| 23:22.10 | coagen | reliver: you cant make separate partitons on the us drive i think |
| 23:22.16 | damosu | umm |
| 23:22.28 | reliver | i can, but i don't really need. |
| 23:22.42 | coagen | *usb |
| 23:23.05 | coagen | reliver so then you can use cfdisk or fdisk on the new usb drive? |
| 23:23.14 | reliver | damosu ? |
| 23:23.16 | roxville | yeah eddan, it is... even if you're not into it... i'm not that much into it either, but it's really interesting |
| 23:23.25 | damosu | reliver, dime |
| 23:23.39 | reliver | <damosu> umm |
| 23:23.47 | eddan | anyways, time for bed. see you guys. |
| 23:23.57 | damosu | apt x es en es que no entendi lo que dijo el apt |
| 23:24.06 | reliver | i have drives with different partitions like this, coagen. |
| 23:24.19 | damosu | but i understand |
| 23:24.21 | coagen | oh |
| 23:24.24 | coagen | cool |
| 23:24.57 | coagen | apt: you english is terrible |
| 23:24.59 | apt | coagen: what are you talking about? |
| 23:25.01 | coagen | rofl |
| 23:25.14 | reliver | ah, damosu, yo queria formatear un harddisk externo usb con particion 10 GB vfat y otra de 220 GB ext3 |
| 23:25.26 | damosu | pos no se |
| 23:25.32 | damosu | como no sea con el fdisk |
| 23:25.45 | damosu | osea pa particionar |
| 23:25.59 | reliver | should i try fdisk ? |
| 23:26.00 | damosu | despues mkfs.loquesea |
| 23:26.19 | coagen | reliver: yeah do fdisk or cfdisk |
| 23:26.44 | reliver | fdisk shows usage. |
| 23:27.00 | damosu | cfdisk mejor |
| 23:27.05 | damosu | mas facil |
| 23:27.16 | reliver | cfdisk is working |
| 23:27.39 | reliver | but i don't see a sda |
| 23:27.56 | damosu | cfdisk /dev/sda ? |
| 23:28.18 | reliver | fatal error. |
| 23:28.27 | damosu | xD |
| 23:28.29 | coagen | heh |
| 23:28.31 | damosu | fdisk |
| 23:28.54 | reliver | maybe better format it with knoppix, easy ? :-) |
| 23:29.09 | roxville | you can't install gparted reliver? |
| 23:30.09 | reliver | no... |
| 23:30.26 | damosu | apt x es en reliver, y si desmontas y haces cfdisk de nuevo? |
| 23:30.28 | eshep | does thana have 0.4 scheduled yet? |
| 23:30.59 | roxville | i dunno eshep... i think he wants to have elpanel ready first |
| 23:31.08 | reliver | not scheduled, no: http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Roadmap |
| 23:31.09 | eshep | cool |
| 23:31.18 | eshep | that sounds better |
| 23:31.42 | reliver | just a first version of elpanel. |
| 23:32.04 | roxville | yeah, he's itching to put it out |
| 23:32.50 | reliver | gonna try formating with knoppix 3.9, ok ? |
| 23:33.07 | roxville | but fortunately for us, he takes great pride in his work, so ... we'll probably have a couple weeks of testing it first :) |
| 23:33.26 | reliver | brb |
| 23:33.35 | roxville | ok reliver |
| 23:33.42 | roxville | good luck! |
| 23:33.58 | reliver | thanks :-) |
| 23:34.25 | roxville | "as always jim, should you or any member of your team get caught or killed, we have never heard of you" |
| 23:35.12 | reliver | oh..."nice" ... ;) |
| 23:35.42 | roxville | did he ever watch "mission: impossible"/ |
| 23:35.47 | roxville | ? |
| 23:38.03 | roxville | ok coagen: i tried a few times to install new kernels and the nividia drivers, but it messed up every time, so until it gets more stable... i just leave it alone |
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| 23:38.22 | coagen | roxville: yeah me too man heh |
| 23:38.36 | roxville | hi YaleR ltns :) |
| 23:38.41 | YaleR | yo roxville |
| 23:38.50 | YaleR | was it you I was talking to about Shuttleworth? |
| 23:39.03 | roxville | possibly...and reliver |
| 23:39.11 | YaleR | ah |
| 23:39.18 | roxville | did i get pissed off? |
| 23:39.21 | YaleR | have you read his new statements? |
| 23:39.29 | YaleR | and seen his webpage? |
| 23:39.34 | roxville | about impi? |
| 23:39.54 | roxville | you got a link? |
| 23:40.20 | YaleR | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth |
| 23:40.27 | YaleR | his website is so obnoxious |
| 23:40.32 | YaleR | let me quote it |
| 23:40.49 | roxville | but coagen, i have an ubuntu xorg.conf...2 actually...one for mirroring and one for separate screens |
| 23:41.00 | YaleR | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.10 | roxville | not that i really understand why you'd want more that mirroring in e |
| 23:41.12 | YaleR | here is a link, to http://www.whitehouse.gov/ |
| 23:41.29 | YaleR | I think somebody should drop a bomb on that disrespectful bitch |
| 23:41.46 | YaleR | not that I'm a HUGE fan of the US or it's president |
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| 23:42.00 | YaleR | I don't live there, but thats just disrespecful |
| 23:42.03 | YaleR | and childish |
| 23:44.02 | YaleR | and his site blows. |
| 23:47.21 | roxville | who's site blows, shuttleworths or the US pres's? |
| 23:48.01 | YaleR | both. |
| 23:48.07 | YaleR | but more shuttleworths |
| 23:48.16 | roxville | lol, ok |
| 23:48.34 | roxville | i'll read 'em both, i promise |
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| 23:55.44 | coagen | how do i repeat a command at the console |
| 23:55.51 | coagen | i forgot |
| 23:56.55 | roxville | you highlight it and middle-click |
| 23:57.50 | coagen | The Top Ten Things You Can Do With amaroK Live. |
| 23:58.05 | roxville | lol |
| 23:58.09 | coagen | ... boring stuff >>> |
| 23:58.11 | coagen | then >>>> |
| 23:58.12 | coagen | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.13 | coagen | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.20 | coagen | ooo |
| 23:58.26 | roxville | lol |
| 23:58.51 | coagen | roxville: no i want a command to repeat once every second |
| 23:58.57 | coagen | i used to know it |
| 23:59.01 | coagen | i cant remember |
| 23:59.28 | roxville | it's not THAT bad of an idea though...pretty good for unknown musicians to get their stuff out |
| 23:59.45 | coagen | word |
| 23:59.47 | roxville | oh... i have no idea! |
