| 00:00.40 | mr_chicks | i have been using e16 for long time even with mandrake.. |
| 00:00.41 | reliver | koshnaranek prefers e16 |
| 00:00.50 | eshep | reliver, e17 *full* is out? |
| 00:00.53 | reliver | i am not able to use e17 :-) |
| 00:01.09 | mr_chicks | eshep: no.. |
| 00:01.24 | eshep | ok, i thought i missed something... |
| 00:01.30 | reliver | it is not out, no, eshep, they are just moving to e18 now, too. |
| 00:01.49 | mr_chicks | lol. |
| 00:01.52 | mr_chicks | brb |
| 00:02.02 | eshep | right...cause e17 is...complete |
| 00:02.05 | reliver | yes :-) |
| 00:02.20 | reliver | complete ? |
| 00:02.27 | reliver | why do you think so ? |
| 00:02.58 | eshep | just bein sarcastic |
| 00:03.05 | reliver | ;-) |
| 00:03.20 | Thanatermesis | mr_chicks if im speak "eat my [caca,poop,shit..], my caca is very multi-vitaminic, and gives you a long life..." do you eat it ? with me this not works... but aparently work with bill gates :) |
| 00:03.22 | reliver | i don't think they are going to complete it. |
| 00:03.26 | eshep | i still havnt got the cursor thing to work... |
| 00:04.12 | KoshNaranek | obtw, i would have posted my nvidia fix to the wiki but i dont have a membership |
| 00:04.32 | mr_chicks | lol. i dont eat nobodys poop. even my girlfriend when comes to use my machine uses e16 |
| 00:04.41 | reliver | thanatermesis ate too much brownies from gates ... ;-) |
| 00:05.25 | reliver | koshnaranek, you are welcome to help on the wiki. |
| 00:05.27 | mr_chicks | which is a pain for her because of the desktop wrap when mouse is on the edge, she´s not used to and panics when things disapear |
| 00:05.35 | reliver | is your nick registered here ? |
| 00:05.44 | KoshNaranek | yes |
| 00:05.54 | KoshNaranek | on nickserv? yes |
| 00:07.36 | Thanatermesis | apt x en fr ate too much brownies from gates ... ;-) |
| 00:07.41 | reliver | yes, the virtual desktops are not newbie friendly. |
| 00:07.50 | Thanatermesis | brownies ? |
| 00:08.22 | reliver | conoces los cookies chocolate americanos ? |
| 00:09.01 | Thanatermesis | ah, yes |
| 00:09.15 | reliver | son como tu descripcion de arriba ... |
| 00:09.23 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 00:11.45 | reliver | but as i understand you, you don't want to change anything, right ? |
| 00:12.13 | KoshNaranek | question |
| 00:12.23 | reliver | yes ? |
| 00:12.32 | KoshNaranek | does listening to 80s streams the majority of the time make me an old fart? |
| 00:14.08 | reliver | dr.Elive answers: no :-) |
| 00:14.41 | reliver | not as long as you use Elive :-) |
| 00:14.43 | reliver | ;-) |
| 00:15.00 | reliver | mas como te entiendo no quieres cambiar nada, verdad ? |
| 00:16.11 | Thanatermesis | apt x en fr but as i understand you, you don't want to change anything, right ? |
| 00:16.38 | reliver | mas como te entiendo no quieres cambiar nada, verdad ? |
| 00:17.21 | reliver | thanatermesis piensando mucho .... ;-) |
| 00:18.10 | Thanatermesis | cambiar que ? |
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| 00:18.57 | reliver | bueno, voi a dormir :-) |
| 00:19.10 | quidam- | ciao reliver |
| 00:19.16 | quidam- | bueno hola y chao |
| 00:19.17 | quidam- | jejejeje |
| 00:19.24 | reliver | hola quidam- :-) |
| 00:19.40 | reliver | si, nos vemos :-) |
| 00:21.18 | Thanatermesis | buenas noches reliver |
| 00:21.56 | goldstein | see you guys..leaving |
| 00:22.18 | roxville | KoshNaranek, is the 80's revival over yet, or just starting? |
| 00:22.32 | roxville | night goldstein |
| 00:22.41 | quidam- | roxville o/ |
| 00:22.44 | roxville | you were a great mr_chicks! |
| 00:23.16 | KoshNaranek | you know all that led zepplin, peter frampton, fleetwood mac stuff you hear on the classic rock stations? |
| 00:23.37 | KoshNaranek | we're depricating that stuff slowly |
| 00:24.04 | KoshNaranek | hello, Eileen, goodbye, Maggie |
| 00:24.13 | roxville | pimples, bad dirty mags, no girlfriend... voice not good enough for metal, hair not long and curly enough... the list is long... |
| 00:26.26 | roxville | girlfriend too ugly to show in public, more pimples, boy george... i mean, damn...what a sucky decade! |
| 00:26.35 | KoshNaranek | the Great Filtering of music will eventually filter even the Green Day to the 2020s equivalent of AM radio |
| 00:26.59 | KoshNaranek | gtg for now |
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| 00:51.15 | Thanatermesis | brb |
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| 02:47.59 | roxville | sinplomo, eshep just asked for you |
| 02:48.28 | roxville | he wanted access to your little repo |
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| 02:50.50 | felix | roxville: tell eshep "you are not memoserv" :-P |
| 02:51.28 | roxville | LOL! |
| 02:51.43 | roxville | hi felix, how are you?! |
| 02:52.11 | felix | roxville: fine, how are things going? |
| 02:53.08 | roxville | not bad... my daughter is still a pain in the b***, but somehow, she's doing better |
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| 02:53.26 | sinplomo | roxville, ok |
| 02:53.30 | sinplomo | one minute |
| 02:53.34 | sinplomo | i have to reboot |
| 02:53.43 | mutacion | qiubole sinplomi |
| 02:53.47 | mutacion | jiji qe ahciendo? |
| 02:53.48 | mutacion | buuh |
| 02:53.50 | roxville | it's coll sinplomo he had to go home |
| 02:53.54 | roxville | cool |
| 02:53.55 | mutacion | ese rox! ya vayase a murmir!! |
| 02:54.00 | roxville | he'll be on later |
| 02:54.08 | mutacion | sobro cena rox? muero de hambre..im still at skull :s |
| 02:54.22 | felix | roxville: why?, what does she do? |
| 02:54.45 | roxville | just throwing temper all the time |
| 02:54.50 | mutacion | bueno los veo alrato.. :9 bai bai |
| 02:55.03 | roxville | i think it's called temper tantrum |
| 02:55.17 | roxville | ciao mutacion |
| 02:56.05 | roxville | but she's also lovely... she's got me wrapped around her little finger, and she knows it! |
| 02:56.13 | felix | http://kidshealth.org/parent/emotions/behavior/tantrums.html |
| 02:56.19 | felix | :) |
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| 03:03.39 | roxville | i'm not sure i wanna readt that! lol |
| 03:05.36 | felix | Hahahaha |
| 03:05.50 | roxville | ok, i'm reading it now... :) |
| 03:09.53 | roxville | dude, i gotta spend a little time with my wife... she's now working tonight, so... not too much chatting... in here, that is! |
| 03:10.25 | roxville | that is good reading felix, thank you! :) |
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| 03:37.46 | GullyFoyle | this is cool, how do i install to disk? it seems to run fine on this old PII 233MHz laptop. |
| 03:45.06 | roxville | click the folder in the "dock" at the bottom of the screen |
| 03:45.42 | roxville | and choose "install elive" or something similar... i can't remember anymore! :) |
| 03:46.49 | roxville | when it is done installing, reboot, open a terminal, become root with :su and then your password |
| 03:47.13 | roxville | then: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 03:47.58 | GullyFoyle | thx |
| 03:48.44 | roxville | also, visi the elive wiki for tips and tricks... because there are a few "post install" tuning that you'll have to do |
| 03:49.56 | roxville | uh-oh, it's closed right now, they're moving the server somewhere else |
| 03:50.25 | GullyFoyle | i don't see an install script or anything, is it in /bin or something? |
| 03:50.44 | roxville | if you can, wait til tomorrow, then you can chat with someone all through the install process |
| 03:51.30 | roxville | no, it should be in the folder than opens when you click "elive control panel" |
| 03:53.13 | roxville | i'm sorry, my daughter woke up, i gotta take her back to bed... she's 3 |
| 03:53.13 | GullyFoyle | maybe i have an old version or something because i don't have an elive control panel |
| 03:53.30 | GullyFoyle | lol i know my kid is 5 |
| 03:55.23 | GullyFoyle | exit |
| 03:55.25 | GullyFoyle | exit |
| 03:55.28 | GullyFoyle | exit |
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| 10:25.32 | reliver | hola, buenos dias thanatermesis :-) |
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| 10:26.27 | pr0t0cod7 | hi reliver |
| 10:26.43 | reliver | hi pr0t0cod7. |
| 10:26.50 | pr0t0cod7 | you want to look at the new "about" page? |
| 10:27.00 | reliver | sure :-) |
| 10:27.11 | pr0t0cod7 | http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Ab/ (hidden for now) |
| 10:27.20 | pr0t0cod7 | tell me if you see anything wrong :) |
| 10:27.44 | reliver | ah, you helped there :-) |
| 10:28.07 | reliver | the problem there is not orthography, but the content, pr0t0cod7. |
| 10:28.21 | pr0t0cod7 | yes? :P |
| 10:29.09 | reliver | it all sounds good for selling Elive, but "Elive aims to be something amazing, without being hard to use, that's what makes the biggest difference between others livecds." really doesn't say much about what Elive is aiming at. |
| 10:29.39 | pr0t0cod7 | reliver: you're talking about the old page :) |
| 10:30.21 | reliver | did you move the dns for elivecd.org ? |
| 10:30.46 | pr0t0cod7 | old page http://www.elivecd.org/gb/About/ |
| 10:30.55 | pr0t0cod7 | new page http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Ab/ |
| 10:31.00 | reliver | or are you looking at a local copy ;?) |
| 10:31.07 | reliver | ah. |
| 10:31.10 | pr0t0cod7 | but the new is hidden (not in the menu) |
| 10:31.43 | pr0t0cod7 | its not enough perfect yet to my taste :) |
| 10:31.50 | reliver | oh my god, you wanted to write a new bible ? :-) |
| 10:31.58 | pr0t0cod7 | hehe =) |
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| 10:32.45 | pr0t0cod7 | i will add some screenshot to make it hmm.. more "friendly" |
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| 10:33.39 | reliver | who said: "We no longer accept features requests." ? |
| 10:34.20 | pr0t0cod7 | hehe, its from Thanatermesis..tired to see some "add my driver" on the forum.. |
| 10:34.38 | reliver | aha. |
| 10:34.53 | reliver | so he aims at continueing his one-man show. |
| 10:35.10 | pr0t0cod7 | heh i think so.. |
| 10:35.30 | reliver | yes, that is sad news, but confirming the impression i got yesterday. |
| 10:38.19 | reliver | what can i say ? good luck, then :-) |
| 10:38.30 | reliver | alone against the world :-) |
| 10:38.32 | Thanatermesis | good morning all |
| 10:39.05 | reliver | hello lonely hero :-) |
| 10:39.15 | pr0t0cod7 | well, its like he's little "baby", i know he become irritable when he see some people who expects some features without saying "please" or "thank you" or anything.. |
| 10:39.19 | pr0t0cod7 | :) |
| 10:39.23 | Thanatermesis | <pr0t0cod7> http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Ab/ (hidden for now) |
| 10:39.25 | pr0t0cod7 | hi Thanatermesis |
| 10:39.40 | Thanatermesis | oh... je croiait que il etait deja mis sur http://elivecd.org pour tout le monde... |
| 10:39.54 | pr0t0cod7 | Thanatermesis: non pas encore ;) |
| 10:40.10 | reliver | who did not say thank you, pr0t0cod7 ? |
| 10:40.55 | pr0t0cod7 | hmm i don't know, i mean people who just say "add my shit to your distro" and that's all |
| 10:41.28 | pr0t0cod7 | that's usual, my opinion is just to ignore these people |
| 10:41.38 | reliver | ah, i was speaking about people from the community here. |
| 10:42.43 | pr0t0cod7 | not necessary from here, but on the edevelop forum |
| 10:42.52 | Thanatermesis | yep.. hi pr0t0cod7 ... reliver ... |
| 10:43.13 | reliver | thanatermesis slowly waking up ;) |
| 10:44.05 | reliver | i see, pr0t0cod7, but how can you replace windows when you insist on fighting alone ? |
| 10:45.19 | pr0t0cod7 | it's even harder alone, impossible though :) |
| 10:45.31 | reliver | yes, impossible. |
| 10:46.49 | reliver | it's like trying to grow, and cutting off your life-blood. |
| 10:48.28 | pr0t0cod7 | yes, maybe it has no grown enough yet.. |
| 10:49.39 | reliver | you say it has not grown enough yet, so you have to cut off supply for growing more ? |
| 10:51.26 | pr0t0cod7 | i think elive has not yet its whole identity between other distro |
| 10:51.56 | reliver | the other distros don't matter, pr0t0cod7. |
| 10:52.05 | pr0t0cod7 | anyway i don't think anyone proposed to help developping elive with Thanatermesis |
| 10:52.11 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es but how can you replace windows when you insist on fighting alone ? |
| 10:52.32 | reliver | if Elive does not grow his own identity from inside, it has no chance. |
| 10:52.52 | reliver | i did, pr0t0cod7. |
| 10:52.54 | pr0t0cod7 | reliver: yes but it matter because people wont choose a distro wich does not provide somethin new, something fresh |
| 10:52.56 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es anyway i don't think anyone proposed to help developping elive with Thanatermesis |
| 10:53.21 | reliver | it has something new, nobody is disputing this. |
| 10:54.31 | pr0t0cod7 | reliver: in "developping" i meant technically |
| 10:55.23 | reliver | the technical part is only one part of developing a distro. it is not sufficient for success. |
| 10:56.25 | pr0t0cod7 | yes i see your point, communication is a big piece too |
| 10:58.46 | reliver | yes, but not only that. developing clear aims and follow them in a systematic way in a community is essential but completely lacking till now. |
| 10:59.23 | Thanatermesis | apt x en fr developing clear aims and follow them in a systematic way in a community is essential but completely lacking till now. |
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| 10:59.50 | reliver | oui :-) |
| 10:59.56 | Thanatermesis | welcome back cornelius[cz] :) |
| 11:00.01 | Thanatermesis | apt x en fr welcome back |
| 11:00.07 | pr0t0cod7 | s/vise et suit/buts |
| 11:00.10 | pr0t0cod7 | xD |
| 11:00.51 | pr0t0cod7 | hehe yes reliver, yes but a lot of developpers hate this way of work |
| 11:01.13 | reliver | yes, that is usually the main reason why they fail with their aims. |
| 11:01.25 | cornelius[cz] | hello everyone |
| 11:01.44 | reliver | it is inevitable, and thanatermesis himself knows that well. |
| 11:01.59 | reliver | hello cornelius :-) |
| 11:02.31 | reliver | it is like programming your own failure. |
| 11:03.00 | reliver | and just stay a nice little garden-plot distro. |
| 11:03.19 | reliver | like the other few hundreds. |
| 11:04.03 | pr0t0cod7 | reliver: one other problem is that Thanatermesis really doesn't understand well english, and apt is not quite good.. |
| 11:04.26 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 11:04.30 | Thanatermesis | this is true :) |
| 11:04.35 | reliver | j'ai parle avec lui dans toute les langue. |
| 11:04.42 | pr0t0cod7 | ah :) |
| 11:04.49 | reliver | il comprend tres bien ce qui va ce passer. |
| 11:05.04 | Thanatermesis | mais ça ne passera pas :) |
| 11:05.13 | reliver | mais il ne veux rien changer. |
| 11:05.20 | Thanatermesis | Elive il va monter et monter sur la liste de distrowatch... et il aura un tres beau future :) |
| 11:05.24 | reliver | c'est sa decision. |
| 11:05.38 | Thanatermesis | changer qoi? |
| 11:05.56 | pr0t0cod7 | hehe, il veut peut etre que si ca doit se passer ca se passe de l'underground |
| 11:06.15 | reliver | thanatermesis, hier tu m'a dit que tu sais que tu ne peux pas reussir si tu continue comme jusque a present. |
| 11:08.05 | Thanatermesis | ben... que c'est pas facile de manager tout ça comme ça qoi... c'est beaucup de boulot :) |
| 11:08.26 | Thanatermesis | ce que je disait aussi ce que si il faut faire un "comunautée de developement" il faut faire quelque chose de bien... |
| 11:08.45 | reliver | changer le chaos, la manque de buts suivi d'une maniere systematique inclu la revision systematique dans une communauté dediquée. |
| 11:08.47 | pr0t0cod7 | en meme temps elive a pas fait suffisemment ses preuves pour que d'autres developpeur s'y interessent |
| 11:08.49 | Thanatermesis | je ne veut pas que les gents il fait de Elive "n'importe qoi a ça maniere".. tu vois ce que je veut dire ? |
| 11:09.23 | pr0t0cod7 | il y a beacoup de projets de distro qui fleurissent ici et la et qui n'aboutissent a rien |
| 11:09.36 | reliver | exactement. |
| 11:10.42 | Thanatermesis | c'est qoi "aboutissent" ? |
| 11:10.51 | reliver | reussire. |
| 11:11.11 | reliver | accomplir son but. |
| 11:11.19 | Thanatermesis | aha |
| 11:12.00 | reliver | si tu continue comme ça Elive seras une belle fleur sur le chemin. |
| 11:12.03 | pr0t0cod7 | Thanatermesis: je parle pas de elive mais en general, c'est pour ca que les devs ne vont pas sinteresser forcement a un tel projet |
| 11:12.32 | reliver | le manque de devs n'est pas le probleme. |
| 11:12.48 | reliver | thanatermesis peut le fair tres bien lui-meme pour le moment. |
| 11:13.14 | pr0t0cod7 | elive beneficie de la confiance de la communautée enlightenment..vu qu'on fait partie du "ring" c'est deja important |
| 11:13.22 | reliver | le probleme est qu'il se sabotage lui meme avec le chaos sur lequel il insiste. |
| 11:13.23 | pr0t0cod7 | ça apporte une nette credibilité |
| 11:13.53 | reliver | ce support est tres fragile ... |
| 11:14.22 | reliver | ils ont deja dit quils pourrait lancer un projet concurrence. |
| 11:14.43 | pr0t0cod7 | ..je n'etait pas au courant.. |
| 11:14.50 | reliver | il faudrait travailler avec eux d'une maniere plus systematique. |
| 11:14.53 | pr0t0cod7 | tu as vu ça sur #e, #edevelop? |
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| 11:15.08 | reliver | ils l'ont dis ici meme. |
| 11:15.21 | pr0t0cod7 | shadoi |
| 11:15.52 | pr0t0cod7 | ils ont l'impression que Thanatermesis travaille un peu dans son coin |
| 11:16.04 | Thanatermesis | <reliver> le probleme est qu'il se sabotage lui meme avec le chaos sur lequel il insiste. |
| 11:16.05 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 11:16.28 | Thanatermesis | <reliver> ils ont deja dit quils pourrait lancer un projet concurrence. |
| 11:16.30 | pr0t0cod7 | en faisant des adaptations dont les outils utilisés (enlightenment/entrance) ne peuvent beneficier |
| 11:16.31 | Thanatermesis | quelle project ? |
| 11:16.32 | reliver | oui, on en a parlé, non ? |
| 11:17.03 | Thanatermesis | <pr0t0cod7> en faisant des adaptations dont les outils utilisés (enlightenment/entrance) ne peuvent beneficier |
| 11:17.06 | reliver | Elive remplacent Windows :-) |
| 11:17.06 | Thanatermesis | c'est vrai |
| 11:17.11 | Thanatermesis | j'ai deja parlée avec shadoi |
| 11:17.18 | Thanatermesis | mais je lui a fait comprendre des petites choses... |
| 11:17.28 | Thanatermesis | la modification de entrance et besoin POUR Elive |
| 11:17.40 | Thanatermesis | ça peut marcher aussi pour debian... mais pas tout |
| 11:18.05 | Thanatermesis | ce que ça peut lui beneficier pour debian (packages soulmachine/debian ) je lui et envoyée et expliquer |
| 11:18.14 | reliver | oui, il n'y a pas de problemes avec les dev e pour le moment. |
| 11:18.22 | Thanatermesis | mais il i a des autres choses "pas utiles" qui pouvent pas ce beneficier |
| 11:18.22 | pr0t0cod7 | c'est important que les mofifications que tu fait soient benefiques au autres aussi.. |
| 11:18.38 | pr0t0cod7 | c'est ce qui fait que les autres on envie de t'aider aussi |
| 11:18.51 | pr0t0cod7 | c'est un entraide mutuelle, qui profite a tout le monde |
| 11:18.57 | pr0t0cod7 | pas a sens unique |
| 11:19.06 | Thanatermesis | par example une des modifications c'est qui lit le fichier /etc/environment, c'est bon pour package debian ... mas pas bon pour la comunautée... sur les autres distros il marche pas... |
| 11:19.08 | pr0t0cod7 | c'est ce qui fait avancer les projets open source |
| 11:19.24 | pr0t0cod7 | c'est pour ça quil y a eu une polemique ewl/etk aussi |
| 11:19.46 | pr0t0cod7 | oui je comprends, mais c'est une attitude a adopter |
| 11:19.51 | reliver | pr0t0cod7, ont peux parler ici pendant des heures comme je l'ai fait pendant les semaines précédente, a la fin c'est thanatermesis qui décide de son propre sort et celui d'Elive ... |
| 11:19.57 | Thanatermesis | engage standalone, il a les dirs sur .engage/icons .engage/order , ça c'est une modification que j'ai du faire pour le engage standalone POUR elive, engage standalone IS DIED, et moi j'ai besoin de le "adapter" pour Elive |
| 11:20.01 | pr0t0cod7 | :) |
| 11:20.07 | Thanatermesis | bien sure, pour la comunautée c'est pas utile ce hack |
| 11:20.28 | reliver | le probleme n'est pas dans les details. |
| 11:20.29 | Thanatermesis | <pr0t0cod7> c'est important que les mofifications que tu fait soient benefiques au autres aussi.. |
| 11:20.39 | pr0t0cod7 | Thanatermesis: je te fais pas de reproche, pas de doute la dessus, c'est juste des conseils |
| 11:20.40 | Thanatermesis | tout ce que je peut aporter a la comunautée je le fait :) |
| 11:20.42 | reliver | c'est dans la volontée generale. |
| 11:21.00 | Thanatermesis | un autre probleme c'est mon anglais... ou bien on me comprend pas les edevels ou bien ils sent fout de moi xD |
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| 11:21.23 | pr0t0cod7 | ce qui est important c'est quils soient conscients que tu fait des efforts |
| 11:21.25 | mchasard | hi salut |
| 11:21.32 | pr0t0cod7 | salut mchasard |
| 11:21.37 | reliver | ton anglais et un probleme, mais de loin pas le vrai probleme. |
| 11:21.38 | mchasard | comment va ? |
| 11:21.46 | pr0t0cod7 | bieng et toi ? :) |
| 11:21.48 | reliver | hello mchasard. |
| 11:23.01 | reliver | est-ce que tu ne te rapelle pas que hier de nouveaux tu m'as dit que tu sais que si tu continue comme ça, tu ne vas pas reussire avec le grand but que tu suit avec Elive, thanatermesis ? |
| 11:23.01 | mchasard | y'a des news sur elive ? |
| 11:23.19 | reliver | oui: |
| 11:23.24 | pr0t0cod7 | mchasard: ca avance, on espere une release vers la fin du mois |
| 11:23.33 | Thanatermesis | pr0t0cod7 , javais passé toute un soirée entiere a essayer de reparer le truc des VAR de LANG et PATH sur entrance... avec les devels, apres de voire pedant quelques heures que c'etait pas posible avec eux et que je avait rien reussi... j'ai du chercher le "plan B", quest-que tu veut que je fasse la ? :) |
| 11:23.36 | reliver | http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=News |
| 11:23.39 | mchasard | hum ok c super ... |
| 11:24.29 | Thanatermesis | oui bon... faut pas confier a la date, eh ? |
| 11:24.44 | Thanatermesis | il faut deja regarder le roadmap, les tickets et le boulot restant pour etre plus sure :) |
| 11:24.50 | Thanatermesis | il i a un LOT de boulot xD |
| 11:26.25 | *** part/#elive mchasard (n=mchasard@glg95-1-82-233-5-66.fbx.proxad.net) |
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| 11:26.57 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 11:27.12 | reliver | donc tu ne veux pas me répondre ? |
| 11:27.58 | Thanatermesis | euh... |
| 11:28.06 | Thanatermesis | le qoi ? |
| 11:28.12 | reliver | est-ce que tu ne te rapelle pas que hier de nouveaux tu m'as dit que tu sais que si tu continue comme ça, tu ne vas pas reussire avec le grand but que tu suit avec Elive, thanatermesis ? |
| 11:28.50 | Thanatermesis | ben oui... je disait quil faut metre "better order and management"... |
| 11:28.59 | Thanatermesis | c'est pour ça deja que j'ai comancée par faire le Trac :) |
| 11:29.09 | reliver | oui. |
| 11:29.32 | reliver | le trac continue avec le meme desordre organise. il ne change rien. |
| 11:29.47 | Thanatermesis | ben... c'est beaucup mieux comme ça |
| 11:30.19 | reliver | tu te fais des illusions, le probleme est plus profond, et tu le sais :-) |
| 11:30.19 | Thanatermesis | avant c'etait tout dans "ma tete", tout desorganisée, plein des fichiers .txt par tout le ordi, un TODO ici, un autre la... je me souvient meme de http://livecd.debianitas.net/todo.html |
| 11:30.58 | Thanatermesis | maintenant tout ça peut etre organisée a partir du trac :) et pas seulement pour moi... tout le monde qui a un access peut faire un login :) |
| 11:31.15 | Thanatermesis | bon... alors c'est qoi la solution ? |
| 11:31.21 | Thanatermesis | ou il faut faire qoi ? |
| 11:31.22 | reliver | est-ce que tu as reflechit au fair que tu vien de lancer un deuxieme wiki sur Elive, par exemple ? |
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| 11:31.41 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 11:31.56 | reliver | il faudrait un management en commun, thanatermesis. |
| 11:32.24 | reliver | est-ce que tu as reflechit au fait que tu vien de lancer un deuxieme wiki sur Elive, par exemple ? |
| 11:32.32 | pr0t0cod7 | un truc "genre" sourceforge |
| 11:33.07 | Thanatermesis | <reliver> est-ce que tu as reflechit au fait que tu vien de lancer un deuxieme wiki sur Elive, par exemple ? |
| 11:33.07 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 11:33.07 | pr0t0cod7 | reliver: c'est pas vraiment un wiki, en fait c'est juste de quoi mettre des todos pour Thanatermesis |
| 11:33.08 | Thanatermesis | O_o |
| 11:33.35 | reliver | vas regarder, sil te plais, le premier liens cest un "wiki". |
| 11:34.00 | pr0t0cod7 | effectivement un wiki est integré a trac, mais il ne sera pas utilisé je pense |
| 11:34.04 | reliver | et thanatermesis as deja invite les gens ici a y participer. |
| 11:34.24 | pr0t0cod7 | c'etait maladroit de sa part alors.. |
| 11:34.45 | reliver | je n'ai pas de probleme a abandoner "mon" wiki. |
| 11:35.10 | reliver | c'est seulement pour te montrer un petit example du probleme. |
| 11:35.52 | reliver | thanatermesis se tend le piege jour par jour ;-) |
| 11:35.57 | Thanatermesis | le wiki il et inclus par default sur trac, c'est pas obligée de le utiliser, et la SEULE chose que ça pourait servir ce wiki, cet pour le developement, par example, un ticket "need to change the images of the bootsplash, how to change ? with this wiki _link_ (wiki-link): for change the images of the bootsplash need to mount in loopback the file of miniroot.gz, first uncompress it, make the changes and re-close it, if you have a "no ful |
| 11:35.57 | Thanatermesis | l space" message, you need to build a new file filesystem, with dd and mkfs (read the /usr/src/linux/Documentation/ramdisk.txt for look an example) |
| 11:36.09 | Thanatermesis | ÇA cest le wiki de trac reliver ... |
| 11:36.15 | Thanatermesis | quest-quil a avoire avec les users ? |
| 11:36.18 | Thanatermesis | RIEN |
| 11:36.33 | reliver | si :-) |
| 11:36.39 | pr0t0cod7 | ca peut porter a confusion |
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| 11:36.54 | Thanatermesis | <reliver> et thanatermesis as deja invite les gens ici a y participer. |
| 11:36.58 | pr0t0cod7 | c'est peut etre pas l'outil ideal pour manager le projet |
| 11:37.04 | reliver | le plus interessant, c'est le development, pour tous les utilisateurs, tant qu'on est un beta :-) |
| 11:37.10 | pr0t0cod7 | reliver: en passant - escuses moi si j'ai été un peu direct a propos du wiki, jai rien contre c'est juste que jai deja du travail avec le site, je n'aime pas les wikis en general, trop desordonné a mon gout, (c'est surtout l'idée de club que je n'aimais pas) mais c'est une approche differente du site officiel(donc complementaire) - vu mon niveau d'anglais je fais ce que je peux pour me faire comprendre :) |
| 11:37.50 | Thanatermesis | non, jai invitée 2-3 personnes pour le Trac, rien avoire pour le developement, la seule chose que j'ai fait avec le wiki c'est faire un "ticket" a roxville pour voire si il marche le service "ticket/email" et lui demander de essayer de faire un wiki, parce que je ne arrivait pas a comprendre comment on crée un nouveaux "wiki" |
| 11:37.51 | roxville | apt x en es good morning :) |
| 11:38.04 | Thanatermesis | <reliver> je n'ai pas de probleme a abandoner "mon" wiki. |
| 11:38.05 | Thanatermesis | ¬¬ |
| 11:38.13 | reliver | le wiki n'est pas le probleme :-) |
| 11:38.20 | pr0t0cod7 | buenos dias roxville |
| 11:38.33 | Thanatermesis | bah... j'ai pas envie de discuter si on comprend pas |
| 11:38.34 | reliver | good morning roxville :-) |
| 11:38.37 | roxville | buenos dias pr0 |
| 11:38.41 | Thanatermesis | en plus |
| 11:38.55 | roxville | morning |
| 11:38.58 | Thanatermesis | PERSONE, peut faire un wiki sur Trac, seulement les personnes qui a un access developer |
| 11:39.06 | Thanatermesis | et je ne vais pas utiliser trac pour les users |
| 11:39.17 | Thanatermesis | je ne veut pas poster ma page de trac sur elivecd.org ou club.elivecd.org |
| 11:39.26 | Thanatermesis | je ne veut PAS que les users il rentre sur trac |
| 11:39.35 | Thanatermesis | c'est pas pour les users, c'est pour le developement |
| 11:39.57 | reliver | le plus interessant, c'est le development, pour tous les utilisateurs, tant qu'on est un beta :-) |
| 11:39.59 | Thanatermesis | en plus... ma machine ne suporterait pas tout ce trafic de reseaux :) |
| 11:40.00 | pr0t0cod7 | Thanatermesis: un jour ou lautre les users auront accés au developpement |
| 11:40.22 | pr0t0cod7 | comme e17 et heureusement pour nous :) |
| 11:40.48 | pr0t0cod7 | pour linstant on a peut etre pas le temps d'organiser tout ca avant le prochain release |
| 11:40.55 | pr0t0cod7 | mais c'est une chose a faire.. |
| 11:41.00 | reliver | oui, pourquoi de nouveaux essayer de s'isoler sur une ile ? ... |
| 11:41.55 | reliver | pr0t0cod7, si on cour plus vite qu'on arrive, on va tomber tout le temp. |
| 11:42.38 | Thanatermesis | <reliver> le plus interessant, c'est le development, pour tous les utilisateurs, tant qu'on est un beta :-) |
| 11:42.43 | Thanatermesis | il i a diferentes persones |
| 11:43.00 | Thanatermesis | 1) les developers, 2) users with welcome to beta-tester, 3) final users |
| 11:43.10 | Thanatermesis | 3) don't need trac |
| 11:43.49 | Thanatermesis | 2) trac ? pourqoi pas ? welcome to look the process of the developement... but club != trac |
| 11:43.58 | reliver | le mieux pour Elive serait de fair un maintenance release 0.3.5, qui aurais du sortir juste apres le changement avec xorg, et que thanatermesis pourrais sortir demains pour les testeur beta et pour halloween pour les autres sans problemes. |
| 11:44.07 | Thanatermesis | <pr0t0cod7> Thanatermesis: un jour ou lautre les users auront accés au developpement |
| 11:44.14 | Thanatermesis | oui, alors ce jour la on vera... |
| 11:44.19 | Thanatermesis | de toute maniere la question et le meme |
| 11:44.35 | Thanatermesis | le wiki pour les finals users ça na rien avoire avec le wiki de trac (si est que on le utilise) |
| 11:45.18 | reliver | si tu exclus les utilisateurs du development, tu t'ampute toi-meme ... |
| 11:46.03 | pr0t0cod7 | en même temps puisqu'il n'est pas organisé c'est delicat |
| 11:46.14 | Thanatermesis | les choses ça se fait a partir de son besoin... |
| 11:46.31 | Thanatermesis | aujourdui il fallait un truc pour manager mieux le project, ok, le trac il a etée creer |
| 11:46.40 | Thanatermesis | le jour qui faudra un "CVS" pour elive... on le fera |
| 11:46.47 | Thanatermesis | c'est pas un prioritée maintenant, on a pas besoin |
| 11:46.53 | Thanatermesis | qui veut le source code de qoi ? |
| 11:46.56 | Thanatermesis | il existe qoi ? |
| 11:46.57 | reliver | trac ne touche pas aux problemes fondamentaux, thanatermesis. |
| 11:47.23 | reliver | je ne parle pas d'un cvs. |
| 11:47.37 | reliver | les problemes ne sont pas de nature tecnique... |
| 11:47.40 | Thanatermesis | elpanel ? tu veut elpanel ? qui a besoin de elpanel ? pr0t0cod7 il ma aidée avec elpanel... je lui et envoyée par DCC... par le moment ça vallait pas la pene de preparer tout un CVS entiere pour que pr0t0cod7 il puisse acceder au source code de elpanel :) |
| 11:48.19 | Thanatermesis | <reliver> le mieux pour Elive serait de fair un maintenance release 0.3.5, qui aurais du sortir juste apres le changement avec xorg, et que thanatermesis pourrais sortir demains pour les testeur beta et pour halloween pour les autres sans problemes. |
| 11:48.24 | Thanatermesis | oui, ça c'est lidée |
| 11:48.34 | reliver | ah parfait. |
| 11:48.48 | Thanatermesis | faire un 0.3.5 (je croix que c'est un bon numero de version pour ne pas confondre...) pour avant de la 0.4 oficielle |
| 11:49.08 | reliver | 0.4 oficiel pour halloween ? |
| 11:49.09 | Thanatermesis | <pr0t0cod7> en même temps puisqu'il n'est pas organisé c'est delicat |
| 11:49.25 | Thanatermesis | exacte... c'est comme si raster il comence a penser a faire "edje" quand il a pas fait evas ... :) |
| 11:49.50 | Thanatermesis | c'est qoi le resultar ? ré-ecriture de tout le code de edje parce que evas il existait pas, pour le adapter et pour que il marche bien avec |
| 11:49.54 | Thanatermesis | c'est logique :) |
| 11:50.08 | reliver | thanatermesis, est-ce que tu sais que les problemes sont plus fondamentaux ? |
| 11:50.13 | pr0t0cod7 | Thanatermesis: le principal, et ce que reliver essaye de faire comprendre je pense, c'est que elive a besoin d'une meilleure organisation/communication |
| 11:50.20 | Thanatermesis | <reliver> 0.4 oficiel pour halloween ? |
| 11:51.00 | reliver | oui, pr0t0cod7, est tout d'abord, une clarification des but a suivre et un plan comment les realiser. |
| 11:51.09 | pr0t0cod7 | pour ce qui est de trac, c'est pas un nouveau wiki.. juste une "desorganisation" de plus.. |
| 11:51.22 | Thanatermesis | pour halloween ? jai mis cette date sur le Trac pour me depecher.. mais on sait pas vraiment dir une date... c'est pas de moi ni de persone que ça depend, ça depend de la cantitée de problemes et chose qui surgent pedant le developement qui faudra faire (si on veut faire les choses bien) qui vont "slowest" le proces... |
| 11:51.38 | Thanatermesis | faut pas publiquer une date oficielle... faut pas faire des "fausses promeses" :) |
| 11:51.58 | reliver | il faudrait fair un release 0.3.5 officiel pour halloween, thanatermesis :-) |
| 11:51.59 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/ticket/14 <-- il i a pas mal de boulot sur ce ticket aussi.. |
| 11:52.18 | Thanatermesis | <reliver> thanatermesis, est-ce que tu sais que les problemes sont plus fondamentaux ? |
| 11:52.19 | Thanatermesis | <pr0t0cod7> Thanatermesis: le principal, et ce que reliver essaye de faire comprendre je pense, c'est que elive a besoin d'une meilleure organisation/communication |
| 11:52.28 | Thanatermesis | oui, je comprend.. il faut de lorganisation oui... |
| 11:53.07 | Thanatermesis | reliver je ne sait pas... tu me disputait a propos de le wiki... je essaye de faire comprendre que ça na rien avoire le wiki du trac, le trac il a un wiki, j'ai pas envie de "hacker" le trac pour que il a pas de wiki :) |
| 11:53.08 | reliver | et puisque tu organise mal, il faudrait que tu veuille que quelquun d'autre le fasse. |
| 11:53.20 | Thanatermesis | maintenant je ne sait plus ce que tu veut dire qui et pas bien... |
| 11:53.53 | Thanatermesis | l'organisation ? oui... comment ? faire qoi pour le organiser mieux ? dans son jour j'ai u besoin de le Trac... par le moment ça va aller mieux... |
| 11:54.06 | pr0t0cod7 | reliver: on y vient.. c'est ce que desire non? ;) |
| 11:54.15 | pr0t0cod7 | ce que tu |
| 11:54.29 | Thanatermesis | <pr0t0cod7> pour ce qui est de trac, c'est pas un nouveau wiki.. juste une "desorganisation" de plus.. |
| 11:54.51 | pr0t0cod7 | (sans critique) :P |
| 11:55.01 | pr0t0cod7 | @ Thanatermesis |
| 11:55.20 | Thanatermesis | pas exactement... c'est qoi le but exactement maintenant ? sortire vitte 0.4 ... le trac il a un "status bar" de combien de % de cette partie elle et faire, avec unliste de tickets (travaux) qui restent ou quil sont fait... |
| 11:55.29 | Thanatermesis | ça va tres bien pour organiser le developement... |
| 11:55.40 | Thanatermesis | <reliver> il faudrait fair un release 0.3.5 officiel pour halloween, thanatermesis :-) |
| 11:55.43 | Thanatermesis | il faudrait oui... :) |
| 11:55.49 | reliver | il n'y a pas de problemes techniques, thanatermesis. |
| 11:55.58 | reliver | un manager. |
| 11:56.06 | Thanatermesis | faut travailler et ce depecher... (0.4 oficielle, 0.3.5 pour beta-tester, la "pre" de 0.4) |
| 11:56.12 | reliver | et une volontée commune. |
| 11:57.05 | reliver | 0.3.5 betatester -> 0.4 oficiel = mauvaise idée. |
| 11:57.30 | Thanatermesis | why ? |
| 11:57.59 | Thanatermesis | 0.3.5 = more new than 0.3 and before 0.4 |
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| 12:00.04 | reliver | la difference est: 0.3.5 serais just a maintenance release. |
| 12:00.23 | reliver | quelque chose que tu pourrais sortir maintenant facilement et sans stress. |
| 12:00.49 | reliver | pour 0.4 il te reste encore pas mal de travail. |
| 12:01.32 | reliver | il faudrait pas une grande difference entre le release pour les premier testeurs et celui pour le publique. |
| 12:02.48 | Thanatermesis | en principe, la "pre-release" devrait etre la MEME que la release final, il devrait avoire tout ce que il aura la 0.4 ... la seule diference c'est la sortire avant, pour la tester et changer tout les petit details qui faudrait changer... |
| 12:03.01 | reliver | oui. |
| 12:03.15 | Thanatermesis | si elle et trop diferente a la vrai release final, ça risque de trouver des "nouveaux bugs" sur la release final, pour ça doit etre la meme |
| 12:03.21 | reliver | alors il faudrait que les deux aille des numeros similaires. |
| 12:03.28 | reliver | oui. |
| 12:04.20 | reliver | ce serais ou 0.3.5 -> 0.3.6 ou 0.4.0 -> 0.4.1 |
| 12:05.12 | pr0t0cod7 | well - already 14:00! going to eat |
| 12:05.50 | reliver | bon apetit. |
| 12:06.17 | pr0t0cod7 | mmerci :) |
| 12:08.21 | Thanatermesis | oui, mais le probleme ce que 0.4.1 c'est pas une bonne idée pour les final users |
| 12:08.43 | Thanatermesis | final users like "0.4", simple... no "0.4.1_rc1"... |
| 12:09.41 | Thanatermesis | simple numbers for the final releases, any number for beta-tester, but NO call "0.4" to a beta release, or 0.4-pre... not confuse with a "biggest number or a new version than 0.4" |
| 12:09.51 | reliver | alors il faut fair 0.3.9 -> 0.4 |
| 12:10.26 | reliver | mais cest pas une bonne idee. |
| 12:11.04 | reliver | des utilisateurs serieux preferent .1 releases parceque il y a moins de bugs. |
| 12:11.42 | roxville | how about 0.3.9.9.9.9-pre_alpha_beta_gamma_delta? |
| 12:12.18 | reliver | yes, 0.4 prerelease is ok, just not as clear as the other option with 0.4.1 |
| 12:15.05 | roxville | 0.4.1 would mean some quick bug fixes after the original release |
| 12:16.29 | reliver | yes. |
| 12:19.24 | reliver | 0.4 could be released to the club, the corrected version to the public :-) |
| 12:19.38 | roxville | remember that ppl don't expect much from an 0.4 anyway... but i know, it's "pride" too |
| 12:19.49 | roxville | that's not a bad idea reliver |
| 12:20.28 | reliver | yes :-) |
| 12:20.36 | roxville | it is? |
| 12:20.40 | reliver | tickle the avid geeks, |
| 12:20.49 | Thanatermesis | <reliver> 0.4 could be released to the club, the corrected version to the public :-) |
| 12:20.53 | reliver | and give the public something polished :-) |
| 12:21.00 | Thanatermesis | a "non-corrected" version can't posible to are called 0.4 :) |
| 12:21.27 | reliver | all 0. versions are beta, thanatermesis, no illusions about that please. |
| 12:21.48 | reliver | all main versions of OS are buggy. |
| 12:22.01 | reliver | even after 20 years of stable development. |
| 12:22.14 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 12:22.17 | Thanatermesis | next release 1.0 |
| 12:22.23 | reliver | it is always the .1 versions that become stable. |
| 12:22.38 | reliver | ah :-) |
| 12:22.44 | reliver | courageous :-) |
| 12:22.49 | Thanatermesis | i prefer to call "1.0" for a real complete version fully functionally :) |
| 12:23.01 | reliver | good :) |
| 12:24.00 | roxville | wow... how would that look? i mean, i'm just asking... if you bypass all the other 0.'s and go for 1.0? |
| 12:25.24 | reliver | it depends on Elive's own aims, roxville. |
| 12:25.38 | reliver | the number by itself would not change much, right ? |
| 12:26.33 | roxville | well, a lot of ppl would say "hey, what happened to all the other 0.'s?" |
| 12:27.08 | reliver | :-) |
| 12:27.12 | roxville | it's bold, i am just asking here, no opinion really |
| 12:28.52 | reliver | yes, it depends on what aims we set for ourselves for Elive :-) |
| 13:15.21 | roxville | Thanatermesis, did you get those libs fixed? for eapp_edit to work properly |
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| 13:18.47 | dererk | Buenas! |
| 13:18.49 | dererk | ping reliver |
| 13:18.55 | Thanatermesis | roxville yes, but i have problems for build repository packages.. .i have maked a new system environment for this, and not is finished... (compilation needs another lib, restart compilation etc..), but a 80 % is doned ;) im posible to put this packages first in a special repository before the oficial repository, do you like to test it ? |
| 13:19.30 | goldstein | hello |
| 13:19.49 | roxville | well, all i want to do, is make the new icons for elpanel, but...sure! lol |
| 13:20.00 | roxville | hiya goldstein :) |
| 13:20.06 | reliver | hola dererk :-) |
| 13:20.06 | dererk | Hi everyone! |
| 13:20.11 | dererk | reliver, :D |
| 13:20.12 | reliver | hello goldstein :-) |
| 13:23.22 | roxville | hiya dererk :) |
| 13:23.59 | dererk | Hi roxville :D |
| 13:24.28 | dererk | roxville, Your name reminds me a suppoused horror film |
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| 13:26.05 | roxville | thanks |
| 13:26.35 | roxville | or something, lol |
| 13:27.12 | dererk | xD |
| 13:28.37 | goldstein | amityville |
| 13:28.38 | roxville | dererk, it was originally a name for a band, "roxville junction" |
| 13:28.52 | roxville | kinda rock, kinda country |
| 13:29.17 | dererk | Oh, I see. |
| 13:30.06 | roxville | so the "rox" part would be rock, and the "ville" part... country lol |
| 13:30.20 | roxville | and junction is where they meet |
| 13:35.16 | roxville | i know that "country" is a "bad" word in europe... except norway lol |
| 13:35.41 | roxville | but i think more of the new folk scene as "true country" |
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| 13:39.05 | dererk | roxville, Why bad? |
| 13:41.14 | roxville | because it's... well a lot of country is way too commercialized |
| 13:41.28 | roxville | but so is german pop-music |
| 13:42.51 | dererk | I see. |
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| 13:54.48 | roxville | and europeans (including me), often see country music as... something less than true music |
| 13:55.20 | roxville | but being over here... you see that a lot of it comes from the heart, not from the wallet |
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| 14:16.04 | roxville | anyway, i see myself more as a rocker who likes sleazy ballads lol |
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| 14:22.19 | Thanatermesis_ | wow ! |
| 14:22.21 | Thanatermesis_ | very nice |
| 14:22.23 | Thanatermesis_ | the file manager of e17 included directly ! |
| 14:22.25 | Thanatermesis_ | ibar shows a better startup effect.... |
| 14:22.31 | Thanatermesis_ | you have loook this pr0t0cod7 ? |
| 14:22.33 | Thanatermesis_ | ahhh ! the real "shell desktop" of raster speaks is launched in developement now :) |
| 14:23.40 | pr0t0cod7 | Thanatermesis_: ? you talk about efm? |
| 14:23.59 | Thanatermesis | yep... aparently, in the menu of e17, "files" :) |
| 14:24.35 | pr0t0cod7 | yep verry buggy for now.. |
| 14:24.47 | pr0t0cod7 | there's the new entropy file manager too :) |
| 14:24.59 | pr0t0cod7 | in cvs |
| 14:25.10 | Thanatermesis | very buggy ? of course ! its the first implementation in e17 :) |
| 14:25.23 | pr0t0cod7 | its there since one week ;) |
| 14:25.30 | Thanatermesis | entropy ? new ? mmmh, i remember this name but not tested... any shot ? |
| 14:26.14 | Thanatermesis | one week ? yes, the last upgrade of EFL/E packages in Elive its little old than :) |
| 14:28.57 | roxville | what the hell are you guys talking about? |
| 14:29.21 | roxville | this sounds so interesting that i get goosebumps! lol |
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| 14:30.26 | roxville | entropy... ok... i guess i'll have to try it! lol |
| 14:30.59 | roxville | why don't they call the whole project "jeopardy" instead? lol |
| 14:31.28 | Thanatermesis | roxville but aparently entropy not compiles... |
| 14:31.34 | Thanatermesis | pr0t0cod7 any screenshot of entropy ? |
| 14:31.43 | TuxMeister | buenas gente |
| 14:32.00 | Thanatermesis | http://images.google.be/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/database/gallery/images_temp/entropy_25oct91_a.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.raveflyers.co.uk/pricese.htm&h=1042&w=739&sz=115&tbnid=kwniFPDCzh0J:&tbnh=150&tbnw=106&hl=fr&start=19&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dentropy%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dfr%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN |
| 14:32.01 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 14:32.04 | Thanatermesis | hi TuxMeister |
| 14:33.38 | pr0t0cod7 | ftp://pr0t0cod7.ath.cx/upload/entropy.png <--old screenshot |
| 14:33.58 | roxville | lol |
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| 14:34.09 | Thanatermesis_ | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
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| 14:34.12 | Thanatermesis_ | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2 |
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| 14:34.12 | Thanatermesis_ | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user3 |
| 14:34.36 | roxville | lol |
| 14:34.44 | goldstein | lol.. |
| 14:35.01 | TuxMeister | ara vuelvo gente... |
| 14:35.17 | Thanatermesis | ops... plugin enabled :) |
| 14:36.04 | Thanatermesis | humm... what about eweather pr0t0cod7 ? |
| 14:36.23 | roxville | put in PLEASE DON'T LEAVE!!! instead lol |
| 14:36.31 | Thanatermesis | from my memory don't have a package for it in elive.. works good now ? and easy to configure ? |
| 14:36.43 | Thanatermesis | lol roxville |
| 14:38.29 | roxville | looks good... nice and clean |
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| 14:52.49 | roxville | xconf and debootstrap in the dist-upgrade? scary... |
| 14:53.04 | roxville | or not? |
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| 14:54.25 | Thanatermesis | roxville do you can posible to make a important test for me ? |
| 14:55.42 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es bends over... is it gonna hurt? |
| 14:55.58 | Thanatermesis | posible :) |
| 14:56.07 | Thanatermesis | but don't worry, i have the "antidot" :) |
| 14:56.17 | roxville | lol, ok then :) |
| 14:56.43 | Thanatermesis | ok, i send you a .cfg file... this is the antidot |
| 14:57.31 | Thanatermesis | and send the new entrance package.. install it, and restart entrance, if your entrance not restart, put this "antidot" file in your /etc and the problem is solved |
| 14:57.39 | Thanatermesis | i need to look if entrance works or not in this version |
| 14:57.58 | roxville | ok |
| 14:58.03 | Thanatermesis | for restart entrance, logout of X, after the entrance shows, type "control-alt-backspace" for make sure a restart of entrance |
| 14:58.04 | goldstein | good luck |
| 14:58.05 | Thanatermesis | this is all :) |
| 14:58.24 | roxville | thanks goldstein ... |
| 14:58.39 | goldstein | leaving, going home.. |
| 14:58.42 | Thanatermesis | dont worry with this file :) |
| 14:59.01 | roxville | goodbye roxville, it was nice to meet you! hope you will like it on "the other side"! |
| 14:59.03 | Thanatermesis | also, all problems is easy to fix :) |
| 14:59.08 | Thanatermesis | lol |
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| 15:07.22 | roxville | ok..."jim, if you or any of you're men are captured or killed, we will decline any knowledge of your existance. good luck jim!" |
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| 15:13.12 | roxville | Thanatermesis, worked fine! even had my fav entrance theme... thanks! |
| 15:13.45 | reliver | ;) great showman roxville :-) |
| 15:14.01 | roxville | lol reliver , thanks! |
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| 15:14.12 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:14.24 | reliver | pity the audience is a bi ... lacking :-) |
| 15:15.03 | roxville | _H_mas... as opposed to X_mas? |
| 15:15.10 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 15:15.20 | Thanatermesis | no any problem with install this entrance roxville ? |
| 15:15.53 | reliver | not opposed ... wanna bet he is a christian :?) |
| 15:16.04 | roxville | nope! i did a dist-upgrade first, with xconf and deboostrap included... scary, but no probs at all |
| 15:16.16 | Thanatermesis | humm... |
| 15:16.27 | Thanatermesis | im not sure if is the good entrance or not... |
| 15:16.32 | roxville | the only thing i can't figure out (still) is why hw_random doesn't load |
| 15:16.34 | Thanatermesis | you can posible to re-try the test ? :) |
| 15:16.35 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 15:17.10 | roxville | i did! i hit ctrl+alt+<- |
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| 15:17.21 | roxville | and then rebboted on top of that |
| 15:17.30 | XolYnrac | hi!! |
| 15:17.32 | XolYnrac | alguien habla español |
| 15:18.03 | Thanatermesis | yes XolYnrac |
| 15:18.07 | reliver | si, todos, co excepcion de mi :-) |
| 15:18.11 | XolYnrac | juas!! Thanatermesis |
| 15:18.26 | XolYnrac | Thanatermesis, este... |
| 15:18.47 | XolYnrac | una pregunta que paquete debo instlar para poder ver los caracteres del esperanto en mi xorg ? |
| 15:19.41 | Thanatermesis | ni idea XolYnrac .. :/ |
| 15:19.43 | reliver | esperanto tiene caracteres especiales ? |
| 15:20.02 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es oh and hte default theme directory works fine as thats where my default.edj file is and e17 is working without issue |
| 15:20.11 | XolYnrac | sip |
| 15:20.14 | XolYnrac | tildes |
| 15:20.23 | reliver | oh. |
| 15:20.36 | reliver | raro .. |
| 15:20.37 | XolYnrac | ^ |
| 15:20.46 | XolYnrac | ô |
| 15:21.00 | reliver | eles que querian simplificar todo ... |
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| 15:21.27 | Thanatermesis | roxville sorry, no test with the same package... i send you another... |
| 15:21.35 | roxville | ok, e16 loads faster |
| 15:21.56 | roxville | e17 loads fast, but... the log out from e17 seemed slower,, |
| 15:22.10 | roxville | and in e16... engage loaded slower...weird |
| 15:22.51 | roxville | ok Thanatermesis ... i'm ready |
| 15:22.51 | Thanatermesis | faster ? mmmh its posible to launch more faster... i put this by default in mode liveCD now.. :) |
| 15:22.53 | roxville | send the whole baskian separatist army at me... i have elive! |
| 15:23.38 | roxville | or the EU parliament... that is scarier these days lol |
| 15:23.45 | Thanatermesis | perfect ! |
| 15:23.53 | Thanatermesis | e16 launchs now very more fast for the mode liveCD... |
| 15:24.08 | Thanatermesis | i can posible add this option in entrance after your next test roxville .. :) |
| 15:24.09 | roxville | almost instantly |
| 15:24.16 | Thanatermesis | no.. more fast ;) |
| 15:24.25 | Thanatermesis | 0.0000.1 seconds :) |
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| 15:24.55 | roxville | lol |
| 15:24.57 | Thanatermesis | ok roxville , first, delete my before entrance package sended... |
| 15:25.08 | roxville | well it loaded DAMN fast, that's all i can say |
| 15:26.18 | roxville | ok |
| 15:26.34 | Thanatermesis | deleted ? |
| 15:26.37 | roxville | deleted |
| 15:27.13 | roxville | hmmm there should be a "thumbs up" smiley |
| 15:27.31 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es there should be a "thumbs up" smiley |
| 15:28.00 | Thanatermesis | \o/ |
| 15:28.12 | roxville | lol |
| 15:28.27 | roxville | so... what's the difference? |
| 15:28.32 | reliver | no las manos, than |
| 15:28.40 | reliver | atermesis, los dedo :-) |
| 15:29.04 | Thanatermesis | roxville , its posible to the before entrance package not is the "good" of i have sent... this is the good "test" |
| 15:29.20 | Thanatermesis | ioi |
| 15:29.29 | roxville | great |
| 15:29.53 | roxville | but this seemed good... |
| 15:29.55 | reliver | si :-) |
| 15:30.05 | roxville | ok... |
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| 15:32.25 | TuxMeister | eeepppaaaaa ya toy aki otra vez xD |
| 15:32.29 | TuxMeister | dando la lata :p |
| 15:33.30 | roxville | ok, if i'm not back before dawn... call the president! or...my mon! |
| 15:33.34 | roxville | mom |
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| 15:38.35 | roxville | ok, this was even faster! |
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| 15:39.10 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 15:39.20 | roxville | the only thing i've noticed, is that engage takes a long time to load when you log BACK into e16 from e17 |
| 15:39.50 | roxville | or possibly doesn't load until i open another window or app |
| 15:40.16 | roxville | but that might be the new xconf |
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| 15:40.59 | roxville | Thanatermesis, this last one is the good one |
| 15:41.33 | roxville | both entrance and e16 and e17 load incredibly fast and smooth! |
| 15:41.54 | roxville | almost instantly |
| 15:41.58 | Elive_user | Has anyone been able to get the Engage Manager to work? |
| 15:42.28 | roxville | yes |
| 15:42.42 | roxville | have you done an upgrade? |
| 15:42.52 | Elive_user | Yes. |
| 15:43.00 | roxville | ok |
| 15:43.14 | roxville | after the upgrade, it's not working... |
| 15:43.27 | roxville | the developers of enlightenment |
| 15:43.41 | roxville | are changing and moving some stuff around |
| 15:43.54 | Elive_user | It crashes when I attempt to use the eap editor to create a new icon. |
| 15:44.03 | roxville | yes, exactly |
| 15:44.21 | Elive_user | This is the stand-alone engage in e16 |
| 15:44.38 | roxville | it's a bug in enlightenment |
| 15:44.51 | roxville | it also happen in e17 |
| 15:44.56 | Elive_user | Just wait and do it manually for now? |
| 15:44.58 | roxville | happens |
| 15:45.15 | roxville | if you can do it manually, yep, that's it |
| 15:45.32 | roxville | bellsouth... don't i know you? |
| 15:45.42 | Elive_user | ok. Thanks roxville. I really appreciate it. |
| 15:45.49 | roxville | from arkansas? or somewhere west |
| 15:46.41 | roxville | no problemo dude :) |
| 15:47.05 | Elive_user | I from mobile alabama |
| 15:47.16 | roxville | ok |
| 15:47.17 | Thanatermesis | works good this entrance roxville ? perfect :) |
| 15:47.20 | Elive_user | see 'ya. |
| 15:47.26 | roxville | take care! |
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| 15:47.40 | roxville | y'all come back now, ya hear? |
| 15:48.08 | Thanatermesis | ok, i make a test... |
| 15:48.33 | roxville | yes Thanatermesis ... in the other version... just nefore i logged out... dragging the mouse from one screen to another |
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| 15:49.08 | roxville | there was a starnge "effect" like a thousand corners with close buttons |
| 15:49.30 | roxville | roxville> yes Thanatermesis ... in the other version... just nefore i logged out... dragging the mouse from one screen to another |
| 15:49.55 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es yes Thanatermesis ... in the other version... just nefore i logged out... dragging the mouse from one screen to another |
| 15:50.00 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es there was a starnge "effect" like a thousand corners with close buttons |
| 15:50.44 | Thanatermesis | roxville accept the file |
| 15:50.50 | Thanatermesis | dcc |
| 15:50.57 | Thanatermesis | --- Ofrece entrance_config.cfg a roxville |
| 15:51.28 | Thanatermesis | hummm |
| 15:51.33 | Thanatermesis | delete the before file roxville |
| 15:51.40 | roxville | ahh, ok! |
| 15:52.18 | Thanatermesis | deleted ? |
| 15:53.11 | roxville | yes |
| 15:53.26 | roxville | ok, just drop it in etc? |
| 15:53.47 | roxville | or only if i have probs? |
| 15:54.18 | Thanatermesis | yes, put in /etc and look if e16 starts more faster :) |
| 15:54.37 | roxville | how could that be possible? |
| 15:55.04 | roxville | if it loads faster, i won't have time to reboot even :) |
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| 15:56.47 | Thanatermesis | reboot ? |
| 15:57.19 | roxville | yes, because e16 would have loaded already! |
| 15:57.51 | roxville | maybe even nefore i even THINK about rebooting |
| 15:58.54 | roxville | ok, i have to ask: in /etc? it did not replace anything |
| 15:59.30 | Thanatermesis | yes, replace |
| 15:59.35 | Thanatermesis | only copy this file in /etc |
| 15:59.44 | Thanatermesis | and restart entrance and login in e16 :) |
| 16:00.01 | roxville | ok |
| 16:00.23 | roxville | bye mom! see you "on the other side!" |
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| 16:05.49 | roxville | HOLY SHIT!!! |
| 16:05.54 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 16:06.18 | roxville | that i little start-splash thing... is gone, it loads instantly |
| 16:06.36 | Thanatermesis | good, i fix this permanently now :) |
| 16:06.47 | roxville | wow |
| 16:06.59 | goldstein | so, how did it goes? |
| 16:07.23 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es so, how did it goes? |
| 16:07.39 | roxville | goldstein, i don't think you have EVER seen a desktop load so fast! |
| 16:07.49 | Thanatermesis | its a option of e16.. included in the next upgrade of entrance for all users :) |
| 16:08.11 | goldstein | lol roxville..faster than e16 usually does? |
| 16:08.29 | roxville | a LOT faster!! |
| 16:08.35 | Thanatermesis | you are in Elive installed goldstein ? |
| 16:08.51 | roxville | i know it sounds unbelieveable... but you just wait and see! |
| 16:08.53 | goldstein | sure thanatermesis, i´ve got no more distro now..lol |
| 16:09.14 | goldstein | roxville i want it now! |
| 16:09.15 | goldstein | lol |
| 16:09.31 | roxville | this is incredible! |
| 16:10.35 | roxville | but why is there an error loading hw_random? |
| 16:11.35 | roxville | damn goldstein you will say "holy shit!" too the first time you try it! |
| 16:11.41 | roxville | and the 2nd time |
| 16:11.46 | roxville | and the 3rd time |
| 16:11.50 | roxville | and...so on |
| 16:12.16 | goldstein | lol. actually i start every sentence with Holy Sgit |
| 16:12.18 | goldstein | Shit |
| 16:13.02 | roxville | lol |
| 16:16.22 | Thanatermesis | after 1 hour, the repo is prepaired :) |
| 16:16.24 | roxville | Thanatermesis, why do i have 2 different engage? |
| 16:16.37 | Thanatermesis | roxville 2 diferents engage ? o_O |
| 16:16.53 | roxville | one that loads with the system, and one that loads after a killall engage and: engage |
| 16:16.54 | Thanatermesis | you have created before a new and apply a "remember" ? |
| 16:16.59 | Thanatermesis | because this, is posible to are launched 2 times.. |
| 16:17.09 | Thanatermesis | ah |
| 16:17.10 | Thanatermesis | not is diferent |
| 16:17.21 | Thanatermesis | only the defined by the system has diferents options :) |
| 16:17.29 | roxville | it is different, because there are different icons |
| 16:17.59 | Thanatermesis | yes, in the right part is for "minimized" icons or similar... |
| 16:18.36 | roxville | no i changed the terminal and xchat icons |
| 16:18.45 | roxville | i showed a screenshot |
| 16:18.59 | Thanatermesis | ok :) |
| 16:19.12 | roxville | i put in the icons from "the hitch hikers guide to the galaxy" |
| 16:19.32 | roxville | but on system startup, i get the old, "normal" icons |
| 16:20.42 | roxville | where is the one i made, so i can delete it? the config or whatever it is |
| 16:21.45 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 16:21.47 | Thanatermesis | its strange |
| 16:21.50 | Thanatermesis | uses the same config |
| 16:22.10 | Thanatermesis | try to launch a 2º engage with the "normal" is launched |
| 16:22.14 | Thanatermesis | and make a screenshot |
| 16:24.06 | roxville | ok, i found where it is: in /.files/.engage/icons |
| 16:24.26 | roxville | ok, i'll try |
| 16:25.02 | roxville | yeah, i get 2 of them... on top of each other |
| 16:27.20 | Thanatermesis | .files ? o_O |
| 16:30.08 | roxville | yes, in /home/me/.files/.engage/icons |
| 16:34.10 | roxville | shower? is he gonna get laid tonight? |
| 16:35.04 | Thanatermesis | .files ? o_O |
| 16:35.08 | Thanatermesis | this is not correct |
| 16:35.18 | Thanatermesis | is /home/you/.engage/icons/blah.eap |
| 16:38.34 | Thanatermesis | ooooooooooh |
| 16:38.38 | Thanatermesis | roxville , .files... you are in evidence... .files don't exist, its the dir of you have all .any dir or file :) |
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| 16:43.02 | roxville | yes i am in evidence... sorry! |
| 16:43.29 | roxville | i am super-noob Thanatermesis , i've told you sooooo many times! lol |
| 16:44.14 | roxville | ok, where do you want the screenshot? |
| 16:44.32 | roxville | i have a nice one with 2 engage clearly visible |
| 16:48.16 | goldstein | lol.. |
| 16:49.21 | roxville | anyway, i gotta get my daughter out of the house... or there will be no house... |
| 16:49.28 | roxville | bbl all! |
| 16:54.55 | Thanatermesis | yes roxville , send.. or put in a web page... |
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| 17:02.24 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 17:06.11 | micker | hey there |
| 17:07.37 | micker | I'm hgaving some odd issues with an install, but they're probably more debian issues than elive issues.. If anyones free to help, I'd appreciate it... If you'd rather I pester the #debian folks, I can do that too, lemme know... |
| 17:07.47 | Thanaway | sent 4102 bytes received 52428609 bytes 27020.21 bytes/sec |
| 17:07.47 | Thanaway | total size is 220487029 speedup is 4.21 |
| 17:07.56 | Thanaway | the repository is upgraded now !!! |
| 17:08.18 | goldstein | :) |
| 17:08.21 | Thanaway | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:08.22 | Thanaway | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.22 | Thanaway | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.58 | goldstein | gentlemen, start your engines:) |
| 17:10.01 | micker | I installed on a laptop with a 6gig hard drive and partitioned it as hda1 ext3 5.3gigs and hda2 swap 700 megs.... cfdisk confirms this, but a df only shows hda as being = to 2.0gigs and no swap. top also says that there is no swap.... |
| 17:15.30 | goldstein | micker, now im really away, sorry. i think if you come back later, maybe 3/4hours you will get help with that, from me or other dudes here. |
| 17:16.23 | goldstein | are you sure you marked those 700for swap? |
| 17:16.28 | micker | yeah |
| 17:16.50 | micker | FS Type Linux swap / Solaris Size 732.05 |
| 17:17.07 | goldstein | did you use fdisk for partitioning? |
| 17:17.10 | goldstein | right. |
| 17:17.16 | micker | cfdisk |
| 17:17.49 | goldstein | hey, i didnt know about that command..always use fdisk.. |
| 17:18.06 | micker | gotcha, its similiar |
| 17:18.10 | goldstein | yes. |
| 17:18.25 | goldstein | and it confirms the swap part right? |
| 17:18.26 | micker | cfdisk is a bit friendlier than fdisk |
| 17:18.31 | micker | yes it does |
| 17:18.32 | goldstein | df doesnt show swaps |
| 17:18.34 | goldstein | :) |
| 17:18.44 | micker | yeah, but top does |
| 17:18.54 | micker | if you gotta run, I can come back later |
| 17:19.23 | goldstein | ive got a minute.. |
| 17:19.38 | goldstein | top isnt a process list? |
| 17:19.47 | micker | I just dont know why my 5.2gig partition is only being recognized as 2.gigs |
| 17:20.02 | goldstein | oh i see where swap shows up on top |
| 17:20.09 | micker | yeah, top is a proces list, but it also shows avaialble, used and free swap |
| 17:20.17 | goldstein | hum.. |
| 17:21.05 | micker | yeah... its stumping me, I've never seen this |
| 17:21.12 | micker | and a reinstall isnt an option |
| 17:21.20 | goldstein | i think somehow you managed to part a 5.2 slice of the disk, but you made a file system for only 2gb |
| 17:21.27 | micker | the laptop doesnt have a floppy or cd drive |
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| 17:21.46 | Thanaway | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 17:21.53 | micker | goldstein - thats what I was thinking |
| 17:21.55 | goldstein | no? how did you istall elive? |
| 17:22.06 | goldstein | without cd drive..? |
| 17:22.42 | micker | pulled the drive and took it to work and slapped it into a 2.5 -> 3.5 ide adapter installed and put it back in the laptop |
| 17:22.48 | micker | but I dont work there anymore |
| 17:23.05 | Voronwe | take 500 floppy |
| 17:23.16 | micker | its been a few weeks since I installed and this is the first chance I've had to trouble shoot this |
| 17:23.47 | goldstein | cool..:) |
| 17:24.34 | goldstein | hey, try to use mkfs.ext3 |
| 17:24.48 | goldstein | let me just check out documentation.. |
| 17:24.55 | micker | isnt that a destructive process? |
| 17:25.07 | goldstein | yes |
| 17:25.09 | Voronwe | if you have dollars you'll can buy a drive too |
| 17:25.10 | goldstein | wait;) |
| 17:25.53 | micker | Voronwe - the laptop requires a specific drive that sells for more than what the laptop is worth... wheres the value there? |
| 17:27.08 | goldstein | micker: what you can try to do is make a partition out of that 5.2 one..and then format it and used it as /home, i.e. |
| 17:27.32 | micker | that would work fine, if there is actually that free space floating around |
| 17:27.45 | goldstein | yes..:/ |
| 17:28.15 | goldstein | im checking with df and space without fs doesnt show up |
| 17:28.27 | micker | checking dmesg to see if there are any swap errors... |
| 17:28.31 | goldstein | but swap should appear on fdisk |
| 17:29.06 | goldstein | do fdisk /dev/hda |
| 17:29.12 | goldstein | and paste results here |
| 17:30.21 | micker | laptops not on the network right now.. I'll transcribe |
| 17:30.37 | goldstein | sorry...do fdisk /dev/hda, then enter command 'p' |
| 17:30.41 | goldstein | for print:) |
| 17:30.54 | micker | oh yeah, I'm all too familliar with fdisk ;) |
| 17:31.08 | goldstein | ok, sorry:) |
| 17:31.13 | micker | s'okay :) |
| 17:31.18 | goldstein | what does it show? |
| 17:31.59 | micker | line 1:::: /dev/hda1 * 1 641 5148801 83 Linux |
| 17:32.37 | micker | line 2:::: /dev/hda1 642 730 714892+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris |
| 17:33.12 | goldstein | seems good to me.. |
| 17:33.25 | goldstein | hum...both /dev/hda1 ?? |
| 17:33.43 | micker | no, my bad... 2nd line should be /dev/hda2 |
| 17:33.43 | goldstein | that doesnt seem good:/ |
| 17:33.48 | goldstein | ah |
| 17:34.10 | goldstein | dunno..semms pretty good to me.. |
| 17:34.30 | micker | if I verify the table in fdisk I also get 57323 unallocated sectors |
| 17:35.12 | micker | sorry 5732 un-al sectors |
| 17:35.45 | goldstein | i really havo to leave now..but stick around or come back later, im sure there are lots of people willing to help;) |
| 17:35.59 | Voronwe | yeah must come back later lol ^^ |
| 17:35.59 | goldstein | better help than me, we hope |
| 17:37.01 | Voronwe | coz i didnt read the topic of your problem, and i'll go to lunch |
| 17:43.24 | micker | well... swap problem solved... mkswap -f /dev/hda2 followed by swapon /dev/hda2 |
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| 17:52.56 | Thanaway | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
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| 17:56.05 | Thanaway | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2 |
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| 18:41.04 | dats | hola |
| 18:46.29 | reliver | Welcome to Elive world, dats ;-) |
| 18:46.38 | dats | hello reliver |
| 18:46.45 | dats | i'm an e-17 user ... |
| 18:46.53 | reliver | yes ? |
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| 18:47.50 | dats | reliver: yes ... |
| 18:47.56 | dats | but i'm just an user ... |
| 18:48.00 | reliver | good :-) |
| 18:48.14 | dats | i can't try to develop ... |
| 18:48.24 | dats | i don't have enougth time for this ... |
| 18:48.34 | reliver | i'm a simple user too, dats. |
| 18:50.29 | dats | oh .... |
| 18:50.39 | dats | this is a good notice for me .... |
| 18:51.01 | dats | i think that i 'm a lammer becouse i can't develop any thing .... |
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| 18:51.05 | Thanaway | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user3 |
| 18:52.23 | reliver | dats, why would you put yourself down just because others try :-) |
| 18:52.53 | dats | reliver: i don't understand you last phrase ... |
| 18:53.06 | dats | phrase = frase ? |
| 18:53.12 | dats | pk no se como co¤o se llama!! :S |
| 18:53.25 | reliver | prque abajarte so porque otros tentan hacerlo ? :-) |
| 18:53.55 | dats | :SSSSSSSSSS |
| 18:54.03 | reliver | verdad ? |
| 18:54.23 | dats | xaval, como no te expresses mejor ... |
| 18:54.25 | dats | tampoco te entiendo :P |
| 18:54.33 | dats | abajarte ? |
| 18:54.35 | dats | so ? |
| 18:54.37 | dats | tentan ? |
| 18:54.43 | dats | oing oing oing oing ... |
| 18:54.46 | dats | que quiere decir esto ? |
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| 19:01.05 | Thanatermesis | any person has tryed to upgrade ?¿ |
| 19:02.04 | reliver | yes, worked well, thanatermesis, thank you :-) |
| 19:02.23 | Thanatermesis | reliver and no have problems with entrance with rebooting the machine ? |
| 19:02.53 | reliver | roboot ?? i'm not a win-cowboy, thanatermesis :-) |
| 19:03.26 | reliver | reboot ?? i'm not a win-cowboy, thanatermesis :-) |
| 19:03.36 | Thanatermesis | or restart entrance then... :) |
| 19:03.44 | Thanatermesis | with control-alt-backspace |
| 19:03.57 | reliver | you mean kill my session ? |
| 19:04.01 | Thanatermesis | no |
| 19:04.14 | Thanatermesis | logout, after, in entrance, kill entrance for restart automatically |
| 19:04.50 | reliver | i would not like to end my session now if i don't need to. |
| 19:06.07 | roxville | i guess i'll upgrtade too! |
| 19:06.38 | roxville | or did i do it already? |
| 19:07.30 | roxville | ooohhh yeah, lots of goodies!! hehe |
| 19:07.32 | Thanatermesis | yes roxville , you can posible to upgrade all system now :) |
| 19:07.37 | Thanatermesis | nice upgrades in e17 :) |
| 19:08.07 | reliver | if yrithinnd has to go all the time, why does he have to shit on us on every occasion ? |
| 19:08.07 | roxville | what about the entrance... it says it's gonna upgrade too |
| 19:08.30 | roxville | lol reliver |
| 19:09.15 | roxville | so... is this 0.3.5? |
| 19:09.48 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es if yrithinnd has to go all the time, why does he have to shit on us on every occasion ? |
| 19:10.12 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.38 | roxville | if you, as an ubuntu user, decide to mess with your system and install e17 from vobcopy, you have to first remove the ubuntu libgc6 |
| 19:11.48 | roxville | or whatever it's called |
| 19:12.08 | roxville | anyway, after you have removed that... technically, it's not ubuntu anymore |
| 19:14.40 | roxville | ok, update done... |
| 19:14.54 | roxville | see you later alligator! |
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| 19:24.50 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user3 |
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| 19:25.53 | roxville | omg... i thought i'd never get back in! |
| 19:26.08 | Thanatermesis | apt omb |
| 19:26.10 | Thanatermesis | apt omg |
| 19:26.11 | apt | rumour has it, omg is what ppl say when they see a printed copy of the CORBA specs. "OMG! IT'S HUGE!". Oh My God |
| 19:26.14 | Elive_user3 | thanks |
| 19:27.10 | Thanatermesis | apt OGC |
| 19:27.11 | apt | hmm... ogc is tac tac tac tak! |
| 19:27.11 | roxville | i had to log into ubuntu and from there log over to windows, and then on to my sisters computer in sweden, and from there into the american federal reserve to get some money to run out to buy a new computer! |
| 19:27.12 | Thanatermesis | apt ogc |
| 19:27.13 | apt | from memory, ogc is tac tac tac tak! |
| 19:27.19 | Thanatermesis | xDDDDDD |
| 19:27.46 | roxville | ok, it went really well... and eapp edit works again!!! |
| 19:28.15 | roxville | the ONLY thing i noticed right now, is that the "close" button still doesn't work in e17 |
| 19:28.45 | roxville | other than that...let's get the champagne out! |
| 19:29.22 | roxville | AND... Thanatermesis did you see the new theme selector? |
| 19:29.26 | roxville | in e17 |
| 19:30.11 | roxville | and the friggin right-click in engage still doesn't work either... |
| 19:30.56 | Thanatermesis | close button ? in the Elive theme roxville ? |
| 19:31.09 | roxville | lol, no |
| 19:31.31 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es did you see the new theme selector? |
| 19:31.31 | roxville | in e17, the close button in the upper right corner still does not work |
| 19:31.59 | Thanatermesis | yes, i have looked the selector :) |
| 19:32.15 | Thanatermesis | in engage... i have de-activated this menu, yes |
| 19:32.47 | Thanatermesis | yes roxville , the close button... if you use the "elive theme" ? |
| 19:37.17 | roxville | the theme selector is good... all i want to do, is bring more ppl in, and noobs tend to like stuff like that |
| 19:39.20 | roxville | Thanatermesis, how do i re-activate it? |
| 19:39.42 | Thanatermesis | roxville i need to modify the code of the "elive" theme, needs a "upgrade in the code" :) |
| 19:39.57 | roxville | coz fucking around with engage is about the geeliest i get! :) |
| 19:39.58 | Thanatermesis | only the default theme is actual to the date... |
| 19:40.10 | Thanatermesis | apt coz |
| 19:40.14 | apt | rumour has it, coz is NOT a word; it's spelled 'because'; learn to type. |
| 19:40.16 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es coz fucking around with engage is about the geeliest i get! :) |
| 19:42.12 | Thanatermesis | you have looked the new effect of ibar ? :) |
| 19:43.33 | roxville | no, i didn't...what is it? |
| 19:50.58 | goldstein | i wish i wasnt away for upgrade and test all the new stuff..but it will have to wait more 4hours... |
| 19:51.42 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es i think that i 'm a lammer becouse i can't develop any thing |
| 19:51.53 | roxville | omg goldstein, LEAVE NOW!!! your whole existance DEPENDS on this upgrade! |
| 19:52.05 | roxville | it's gonna change your life FOREVER!!! |
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| 19:56.18 | Elive_user3 | Does anyone know how to view hidden files in evidence? |
| 19:57.01 | Thanatermesis | its in ".files" dir Elive_user3 |
| 20:00.21 | Elive_user3 | Oh, thanks! |
| 20:00.38 | Elive_user3 | Should have known that. |
| 20:01.46 | roxville | lol |
| 20:02.09 | Elive_user3 | You guys are great. Excellent distro by the way. Very fast, and configured the way I like it. |
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| 20:02.21 | Thanatermesis | roxville you know another bugs in the e17 "elive" theme for need to repair ? |
| 20:02.47 | Elive_user3 | Keep up the good work. I'll be willing to help in the future if needed. |
| 20:03.00 | Thanatermesis | thanks Elive_user3 :) and better while next releases :) |
| 20:03.12 | Elive_user3 | If anything, by donations. |
| 20:03.14 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es and better while next releases :) |
| 20:03.27 | Thanatermesis | good Elive_user3 , thanks :) |
| 20:03.33 | Thanatermesis | you have tried "elpanel" ? |
| 20:03.51 | Elive_user3 | Whick contry is this distro from? |
| 20:04.00 | Elive_user3 | Which country |
| 20:04.29 | Elive_user3 | Yes, I tried Elpanel. Excellent work. Looks very cool. |
| 20:04.37 | Thanatermesis | country ? what diference ? its maked for all world in internet :) |
| 20:04.44 | Thanatermesis | good :) |
| 20:05.01 | roxville | Thanatermesis, not that i have noticed yet, no |
| 20:05.08 | Thanatermesis | its created in belgium, but from a "spanish" native language... |
| 20:05.15 | Elive_user3 | I understand that, I was just courious since you speak Spanish. |
| 20:05.27 | Thanatermesis | yes, i speak spanish |
| 20:05.59 | Elive_user3 | My wife is from Venezuela, so I've been hard at work learning to speak Spanish. |
| 20:06.29 | Thanatermesis | hehe, the spanish is posible to are little dificult.. contains a lot of words in the "dictionare" |
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| 20:07.09 | Elive_user3 | Yes. Its been difficult. Its easier to lean when you live in the native country. |
| 20:07.36 | Elive_user3 | My stepson learned English in about 7 months |
| 20:07.55 | Elive_user3 | Children learn much faster. |
| 20:08.28 | Elive_user3 | Who wrote the code for Elpanel? |
| 20:08.33 | Thanatermesis | yes, children learns very easy |
| 20:08.38 | Thanatermesis | me :) |
| 20:09.29 | Elive_user3 | Ahhh, good job. It is in the same style of what the enlightenment project is trying to do. |
| 20:10.02 | Elive_user3 | Not only "eye candy" but fast and smooth. |
| 20:10.08 | roxville | Elive_user3, we have a venezuelan in the channel too. his nick is quidam- |
| 20:10.16 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es It is in the same style of what the enlightenment project is trying to do. |
| 20:10.18 | Elive_user3 | Ahhh, cool. |
| 20:10.29 | Thanatermesis | yes, fast is important :) |
| 20:10.31 | Thanatermesis | light |
| 20:10.39 | Thanatermesis | without need a "big machine" :) |
| 20:10.56 | Elive_user3 | Exacto. |
| 20:11.15 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 20:11.29 | roxville | elpanel is Thanatermesis' work.. he is NOT an e developer... he takes some small steps away from what they think is appropriate actually |
| 20:11.39 | roxville | but only small steps... like elpanel |
| 20:11.42 | Thanatermesis | how you know about "elpanel" ? in the elivecd.org page ? |
| 20:12.32 | Elive_user3 | I found elpanel when looking at the available apts in synaptic under elive section. |
| 20:12.51 | Thanatermesis | oh, good :) |
| 20:13.30 | Thanatermesis | its posible to the elivecd.org page needs a "better" mode of look news, no only the news section but also a "new" in the main page (about page), or a little image for look more faster :) |
| 20:14.10 | roxville | yes that's a good idea |
| 20:14.26 | Elive_user3 | Yes. People whould be able to be better informed about new features for elive. |
| 20:15.21 | Thanatermesis | pr0t0cod7 needs to make this :) |
| 20:15.29 | Elive_user3 | Bye, talk to you guys later. |
| 20:15.38 | Thanatermesis | welcomed Elive_user3 |
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| 20:22.03 | roxville | Thanatermesis, how do i re-activate the right-click in engage? |
| 20:22.44 | Thanatermesis | i have de-activated this in the code... |
| 20:22.56 | Thanatermesis | what have interessant this menu ? |
| 20:23.24 | roxville | it's the only thing i dared to mess around with! |
| 20:23.43 | Thanatermesis | because "disturb" little for the user, if you like to open the menu of conf of e16 (right button click in the desktop), but the engage not is far... you have the menu of engage, no e16... is little confusing |
| 20:23.56 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es it's the only thing i dared to mess around with! |
| 20:24.21 | Thanatermesis | what have interessant this menu ? |
| 20:24.51 | Thanatermesis | do yo need modify the configuration of engage ? what exactly is interessant to modify ? |
| 20:25.04 | roxville | the pssibility to configure engage |
| 20:25.07 | Thanatermesis | i have in the mind to manage the configuration of engage but from the elpanel... no from this menu |
| 20:25.24 | roxville | ok, that's fine! |
| 20:25.27 | roxville | lol |
| 20:25.30 | Thanatermesis | because a little problem |
| 20:25.36 | roxville | ahhh |
| 20:25.45 | Thanatermesis | engage is remembered with a options in e16 |
| 20:26.06 | Thanatermesis | you configure it, but after restart your X, you have the same configuration of before... no changes |
| 20:26.35 | Thanatermesis | if you like to configure manually, first understand your engage application, type "engage --help" |
| 20:26.47 | roxville | well my engage sure is transparent still |
| 20:27.11 | roxville | i know, or engage -h |
| 20:30.02 | Thanatermesis | i need to look for the engage configuration before 0.4.. |
| 20:30.12 | Thanatermesis | i add this in the 14º ticket :) |
| 20:30.23 | roxville | Thanatermesis, a tip would be (maybe) to make elpanel look more like... eclair maybe? |
| 20:30.51 | roxville | but don't worry about the look of elpanel now, that can wait :) |
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| 20:33.18 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/ticket/14 look the last line roxville :) |
| 20:34.01 | Thanatermesis | yes, i continue with the actual look of elpanel now... after with time i look for another interface switch :) |
| 20:35.08 | roxville | lol, ok |
| 20:35.29 | roxville | shouldn't all these things have separate tickets? |
| 20:35.52 | Thanatermesis | because is a lot :) |
| 20:36.38 | roxville | yeah, i could see that! lol |
| 20:36.56 | Thanatermesis | for halloween ? heh, its very dificult... |
| 20:36.58 | Thanatermesis | its a lot of work |
| 20:37.24 | roxville | yeah, let's change that |
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| 20:38.17 | ijr_ | thanatermesis and thanatermesis_ oh!!! the clones are here!!! |
| 20:38.47 | Thanatermesis_ | no ijr_ ... im trying to fix the "elive" e17 theme.. :) |
| 20:39.00 | roxville | lol ijr_ yep, they're everywhere |
| 20:39.17 | ijr_ | ;) |
| 20:40.06 | Thanatermesis_ | nice toy :) |
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| 20:40.21 | Thanatermesis_ | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 20:43.45 | Thanatermesis_ | apt x en es if it makes u feel any better i tried out and thought it was awesome |
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| 20:45.11 | Thanatermesis_ | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 21:06.45 | *** join/#elive nomed (n=daniele@host127-58.pool8260.interbusiness.it) |
| 21:06.51 | nomed | hi all |
| 21:07.19 | nomed | Thanatermesis_: ru around here? |
| 21:07.20 | roxville | hi nomed :) |
| 21:07.29 | nomed | hi roxville |
| 21:07.51 | nomed | have you the sources of ncurse cdrecord stuff? |
| 21:07.52 | roxville | yes he is around somewhere... look in the closet overe in the corner there |
| 21:08.08 | nomed | :) |
| 21:08.23 | roxville | sorry nomed, i do not :/ |
| 21:13.19 | Thanatermesis_ | yep nomed |
| 21:14.01 | Thanatermesis_ | nomed try "dialogcd" in www.freshmeat.net |
| 21:15.15 | dats | bye |
| 21:29.47 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@192-174.adsl.cust.tie.cl) |
| 21:29.47 | Thanatermesis_ | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 21:38.51 | Thanatermesis_ | apt x en es instead of emitting signals from your theme, e17 now listens to events on parts with specific names ('title', 'maximize', 'resize_l', 'resize_br', etc). so, you just need to rename the parts that you want to be bound to those events |
| 21:44.11 | nomed | Thanatermesis_: thanks :) |
| 21:44.16 | nomed | how r u? |
| 21:44.59 | Thanatermesis | good :) |
| 21:45.02 | Thanatermesis | and you ? |
| 21:49.51 | nomed | the same :) |
| 21:51.05 | nomed | was cornelius the name of the guy that made you grub image? |
| 21:53.33 | *** join/#elive offray (n=Elive_us@200.3.154.74) |
| 21:53.40 | offray | Hi all |
| 21:53.48 | Thanatermesis_ | yes nomed |
| 21:53.59 | nomed | ehhehh |
| 21:54.43 | nomed | he is from danix .. asking about my gfxgrub |
| 21:56.10 | offray | I would like to configure a network card on a machine with kanotix. Kanotix works like a charm for hardware detection (it's the best IMHO) but for some reason didn't work for this one. We have installed slack in another machine with the same hardware config and is working, I would like where I have to see in the slack machine for finding information about how to configure it on kanotix. Any pointer? (I ask in the Kanotix channel, but nobody help me :-S) |
| 21:58.55 | nomed | offray: did you tried out elive? |
| 21:58.58 | nomed | :) |
| 22:04.15 | roxville | elive? what's that? |
| 22:12.53 | nomed | :) |
| 22:23.58 | Thanatermesis_ | wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 22:24.07 | Thanatermesis_ | with a parse of the code default_border.edc changing directly 154 words with a simple command in vim, the theme upgrade for the button works now !!! |
| 22:24.33 | Thanatermesis_ | i need beta-testers for test the complete work fo the theme.. :) |
| 22:25.15 | roxville | has anybody tried phluid? |
| 22:25.40 | roxville | what? the close button? |
| 22:25.54 | *** join/#elive fanelia (i=[U2FsdGV@63.246.129.50) |
| 22:26.01 | roxville | 154 words? to close a button? |
| 22:26.26 | offray | nomed, yep I tried elive and it doesnt detect properly de netcard |
| 22:27.00 | Thanatermesis_ | roxville yes, all buttons, minimize, maximize and close :) |
| 22:27.03 | roxville | offray, you're hot on the keyboard tonight dude! :) |
| 22:27.04 | Thanatermesis_ | all works now :) |
| 22:27.21 | offray | rookmoot, why? |
| 22:27.24 | roxville | awesome! well... sign me up, i guess :) |
| 22:27.32 | offray | roxville, why? |
| 22:27.36 | offray | :) |
| 22:27.36 | Thanatermesis_ | yep roxville , one moment... |
| 22:27.41 | roxville | offray, i am roxville |
| 22:27.52 | roxville | ok |
| 22:28.08 | roxville | well nomed put that in about 45 minutes ago lol |
| 22:28.20 | Thanatermesis_ | roxville dcc |
| 22:28.42 | offray | ahh ok |
| 22:28.42 | roxville | si Thanatermesis , claro |
| 22:28.52 | offray | I'm going on other windows now |
| 22:29.00 | Thanatermesis_ | roxville please test me all posible things in e17, for search a posible bug, and if all works good or have another thing to need to repair :) |
| 22:29.36 | roxville | i seriously hope so! otherwise, you would need a doctor, or at least some coffee if your reading is that slow! lol |
| 22:29.40 | fanelia | asdasd |
| 22:29.48 | mutacion | jiji xD |
| 22:32.16 | Thanatermesis | roxville oh, you have a e-mail O:) |
| 22:34.40 | roxville | oh, ok |
| 22:35.28 | Thanatermesis | roxville after your test, if all works good, enter in the Trac and your new ticket (e-mail), click in "Action (in the bottom of page) --> resolve as: "fixed" and its the first % complete of milestone "release_0.4" :) |
| 22:41.04 | offray | Thanatermesis, do you remember where is the video for Elpanel? |
| 22:41.07 | mutacion | i got hambrita! |
| 22:41.49 | offray | apt, ubuntu |
| 22:41.50 | apt | ubuntu is, like, caca from this ass http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3843/18427557718e22857e9rb.jpg |
| 22:41.58 | mutacion | remeber the first time .. i told u i love u.. its was rainning so hard..and u didnt say a word -the cure |
| 22:42.04 | Thanatermesis | offray http://elive.xasein.com/misc/elpanel.avi |
| 22:42.47 | offray | thanks:) |
| 22:53.02 | roxville | ok, i'm going over to e17... see ya soon |
| 22:57.15 | *** join/#elive roxville (n=Elive_us@pcp02417389pcs.jamsis01.sc.comcast.net) |
| 22:57.23 | roxville | > |
| 22:57.59 | reliver | roxville, great surviver :-) |
| 22:58.43 | roxville | lol, yep... i made the transition...feels pretty cool, actually :) |
| 22:59.43 | roxville | Thanatermesis, i have one more ticket for you :) |
| 23:01.28 | offray | anybody know where I can find information about how to enable multiple desktop environments on entrance? |
| 23:01.52 | Thanatermesis | i dont look any ticket :/ |
| 23:02.24 | roxville | no i'm gonna give it to you here...or would you prefer i wrote one in trac? |
| 23:02.38 | roxville | i can do that! lol |
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| 23:02.48 | Thanatermesis | yes, write in trac :) |
| 23:03.04 | roxville | it's xchat... the menu.. or half of the menus are still in spanish |
| 23:03.12 | roxville | i will! |
| 23:04.06 | roxville | Thanatermesis, the close button works! looks great! new font in xchat? |
| 23:04.23 | Thanatermesis | oh, spanish.. |
| 23:04.31 | Thanatermesis | this is fixed, also for amsn now :) |
| 23:04.34 | Thanatermesis | try if works good |
| 23:04.44 | Thanatermesis | upgrade your .xchat2 and .amsn ... |
| 23:04.47 | Thanatermesis | with elive-skel |
| 23:04.50 | Thanatermesis | with elive-skel upgrade |
| 23:04.51 | roxville | ok |
| 23:05.07 | roxville | and i don't use amsn, so... |
| 23:05.22 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
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| 23:07.21 | Thanatermesis_ | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 23:12.27 | Thanashiba | roxville, diferents fonts ? o_O |
| 23:14.20 | roxville | well it looks different |
| 23:14.35 | roxville | and the menu is still half in spanish! lol |
| 23:14.57 | Thanashiba | oh, the stars has changed in this version of theme... do you like better this mode ? |
| 23:15.33 | Thanashiba | mmmh, you have exit to xchat before the upgrade of .xchat2 with elive-skel and have a recent upgrade of the system ? |
| 23:19.09 | roxville | of course |
| 23:20.03 | Thanashiba | strange... |
| 23:20.10 | roxville | yes Thanashiba the stars look great tonight... |
| 23:20.13 | roxville | :) |
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| 23:23.55 | roxville | ok, bed-time for my daughter... bbs :) |
| 23:30.47 | Thanashiba | ok, new theme of e17 "elive" upgraded version in the repo now |
| 23:54.37 | Thanashiba | mmmh, roxville , not is posible... |
| 23:54.51 | Thanashiba | you have the 0.4-7elive8 version of elive-skel ? |
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| 23:56.03 | goldstein | baaaaaccck |
| 23:56.04 | _Red_ | buenas |
| 23:56.11 | goldstein | thanashiba? lol |
| 23:56.17 | goldstein | bought a toshiba?:P |
| 23:56.23 | Thanashiba | yep :) |
| 23:56.31 | goldstein | cool:) |
| 23:56.33 | _Red_ | le hago sudo apt-get install e17 |
| 23:56.37 | goldstein | ive got one too |
| 23:56.43 | _Red_ | pero me dice: |
| 23:56.52 | _Red_ | Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas: |
| 23:57.02 | _Red_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:57.05 | _Red_ | :S |
| 23:57.09 | goldstein | so thanashiba i wiil upgrade now |
| 23:57.17 | goldstein | what is the repository? |
| 23:57.35 | _Red_ | que hago? |
| 23:58.41 | nomed | anyone here using graveman? |
| 23:59.15 | Thanashiba | _Red_, los paquetes de elive estan preparados para usarlos en elive... |
| 23:59.16 | goldstein | micker: got those swap working already? |
| 23:59.38 | _Red_ | pero yo estoy en ubuntu |
| 23:59.44 | _Red_ | y segun este manual: |
| 23:59.48 | Thanashiba | goldstein, the "idefix" repository... look "sources" in club.elivecd.org |
| 23:59.59 | _Red_ | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61488 |
