irclog2html for #elive on 20051103

`00:00.12`	`lilo78`	`Tampoco va`
`00:00.56`	`lilo78`	`Thanatermesis, ahora si.`
`00:00.57`	`lilo78`	`Gracias.`
`00:01.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`;)`
`00:17.13`	`*** part/#elive nomed (n=daniele@host234-72.pool8258.interbusiness.it)`
`00:27.07`	`eshep`	`Thanatermesis, did you figure out the .ivman printer problem?`
`00:29.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`eshep nomed needs to look for this, if you can help with he... is good (because he don't have printer for test)`
`00:29.48`	`eshep`	`ok, when he comes back...`
`00:32.09`	`*** join/#elive dererk (n=dererk@unaffiliated/dererk)`
`00:44.38`	`pr0t0cod7`	`dererk: pong`
`00:44.48`	`pr0t0cod7`	`dererk: the translations are up :)`
`00:45.06`	`pr0t0cod7`	`dererk: you can log and start to translate if you want ;)`
`00:45.28`	`pr0t0cod7`	`s/log/login :P`
`01:11.13`	`pr0t0cod7`	`dererk: hmm sorry, you can't edit yet xD`
`01:11.48`	`pr0t0cod7`	`reliver: there's some rights problems, hopefully be fixed tomorow =)`
`01:12.12`	`pr0t0cod7`	`oups dererk`
`01:19.00`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@81-202-32-14.user.ono.com)`
`01:23.11`	`*** join/#elive goldstein (n=Elive_us@a213-22-153-76.cpe.netcabo.pt)`
`01:27.34`	`goldstein`	`oi`
`01:28.51`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, ping`
`01:29.11`	`pr0t0cod7`	`dererk: pong`
`01:29.31`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, Hi pal! :D`
`01:29.49`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, I assume it's not ready yet for last xDDD`
`01:29.53`	`pr0t0cod7`	`hey dude =)`
`01:29.55`	`pr0t0cod7`	`lol`
`01:30.03`	`pr0t0cod7`	`unfortunately :P`
`01:30.34`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, What's wrong?`
`01:30.52`	`pr0t0cod7`	`i can access the pages but i can't give you access, the server says i'm not admin xD`
`01:31.04`	`pr0t0cod7`	`while i'm logged`
`01:31.05`	`dererk`	`xD`
`01:31.08`	`dererk`	`lol`
`01:31.59`	`pr0t0cod7`	`but it only happens in the new copied pages..something wrong on the server side`
`01:32.11`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, Then, let pr0t0cod7 to login whoever you are! xD`
`01:32.27`	`pr0t0cod7`	`i hope HandyAnde (server admin) to fix it tomorow`
`01:32.46`	`dererk`	`Cool`
`01:32.59`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, Let me know partner! :D`
`01:33.18`	`pr0t0cod7`	`sure!`
`01:33.32`	`dererk`	`:D`
`01:35.15`	`*** part/#elive dererk (n=dererk@unaffiliated/dererk)`
`01:35.19`	`*** join/#elive dererk (n=dererk@unaffiliated/dererk)`
`01:35.25`	`dererk`	`wrong buttom`
`01:35.26`	`dererk`	`xD`
`01:35.38`	`pr0t0cod7`	`for now contemplate the little flag on the page http://www.elivecd.org/ ;)`
`01:35.43`	`pr0t0cod7`	`lol`
`01:35.57`	`pr0t0cod7`	`what drug are you on? :D`
`01:36.25`	`dererk`	`xD`
`01:36.36`	`pr0t0cod7`	`hehe`
`01:36.52`	`dererk`	`Sex fever!`
`01:36.58`	`dererk`	`ups, did I said that?`
`01:36.59`	`dererk`	`xD`
`01:37.05`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt sex`
`01:37.07`	`apt`	`updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/`
`01:37.36`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, ROTFL`
`01:37.45`	`dererk`	`O_o`
`01:37.56`	`dererk`	`xDDDD`
`01:37.58`	`dererk`	`rotfl`
`01:38.26`	`dererk`	`xDDDD`
`01:38.54`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt x en fr ROTFL`
`01:39.10`	`pr0t0cod7`	`:o`
`01:39.28`	`dererk`	`apt x en fr Rolling On the Floor Laughing`
`01:39.40`	`dererk`	`xD`
`01:39.42`	`pr0t0cod7`	`lol`
`01:39.59`	`dererk`	`I don't have a near idea what the hell does it mean xDDDDD`
`01:40.01`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt x fr en roulement sur rire de plancher`
`01:40.06`	`pr0t0cod7`	`near nothing xD`
`01:40.38`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, You know, I have the idea of learning French some day`
`01:41.09`	`pr0t0cod7`	`dererk: pourquoi pas commencer maintenant ;)`
`01:41.34`	`pr0t0cod7`	`c'est difficile il parait le francais :P`
`01:42.15`	`pr0t0cod7`	`dererk: you learn english to Thanatermesis and he teach you french =)`
`01:42.26`	`pr0t0cod7`	`you'll talk tarzanian french lol`
`01:43.04`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, It'd be a pleasure to insult everyone while they might think "Oh, he's reciting a poem for me"`
`01:43.14`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, parce que j'ai tout à fait un bon pour chronométrer l'apprendre`
`01:43.33`	`pr0t0cod7`	`hehe woooo xD`
`01:43.38`	`pr0t0cod7`	`je comprends rien xD`
`01:43.42`	`dererk`	`xD`
`01:43.46`	`sinplomo`	`no tiene sentido esa frase`
`01:43.47`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`01:43.50`	`dererk`	`xDD`
`01:44.06`	`dererk`	`sinplomo, Shh, calla tu que estas away xDDDDDDDD`
`01:44.17`	`dererk`	`rotfl`
`01:44.18`	`dererk`	`xD`
`01:44.28`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, Je veux dire, j'ai libère maintenant l'heure de l'apprendre`
`01:44.47`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, Peut-être un certain jour :D`
`01:44.50`	`sinplomo`	`otra frase mas sin sentido`
`01:44.51`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`01:44.57`	`sinplomo`	`la ultima si tiene sentido`
`01:44.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`my speak english very good ! hau`
`01:44.59`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`01:45.05`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, xD`
`01:45.12`	`sinplomo`	`dererk, estoy viendo torrente 3 ^^`
`01:45.21`	`pr0t0cod7`	`dererk: roger`
`01:45.23`	`pr0t0cod7`	`xD`
`01:45.25`	`dererk`	`sinplomo, Anda, si lo que dices tu no tiene sentido aunque hables en espaniol xDDDDDDDD`
`01:45.49`	`dererk`	`Torrente 3?`
`01:45.52`	`sinplomo`	`dererk, si`
`01:45.59`	`dererk`	`Funciona sobre bittorrent?`
`01:47.09`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, By the way, did you transfer the whole site to "/es/" directory?`
`01:47.16`	`dererk`	`sinplomo, Funciona sobre bittorrent?`
`01:47.24`	`pr0t0cod7`	`yeah (Handyande did)`
`01:47.29`	`dererk`	`I see`
`01:47.33`	`dererk`	`Quite good`
`01:47.45`	`dererk`	`It's a pitty I can't start now :(`
`01:48.29`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, lol French translations look nice... It's quite similar to english xD`
`01:48.35`	`dererk`	`roltfl`
`01:48.55`	`pr0t0cod7`	`hehe :P`
`01:49.17`	`pr0t0cod7`	`you see, it's not that difficult! xD`
`01:49.34`	`dererk`	`xD`
`01:49.37`	`dererk`	`At all!`
`01:49.38`	`dererk`	`xD`
`01:49.51`	`dererk`	`I know Kung fu!`
`01:50.00`	`dererk`	`I mean, I know French now!`
`01:50.01`	`dererk`	`xD`
`01:50.02`	`dererk`	`lol`
`01:50.13`	`dererk`	`(part of Matrix dialog :P )`
`01:50.32`	`sinplomo`	`dererk, si`
`01:50.43`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt dererk`
`01:52.18`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt dererk is a crazy Kung fu Matrix French mean of part now`
`01:52.20`	`apt`	`pr0t0cod7: okay`
`01:52.25`	`pr0t0cod7`	`xDDD`
`01:52.37`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt understand anything`
`01:52.38`	`dererk`	`:0`
`01:52.51`	`dererk`	`apt dererk`
`01:52.53`	`apt`	`it has been said that dererk is a crazy Kung fu Matrix French mean of part now`
`01:53.39`	`dererk`	`It doesn't have any sense, do is?`
`01:53.43`	`dererk`	`O_o`
`01:53.56`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, How's your hacker-fu?`
`01:53.59`	`dererk`	`xD`
`01:54.11`	`pr0t0cod7`	`lol`
`01:54.53`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt forget dererk`
`01:54.54`	`apt`	`pr0t0cod7: i forgot dererk`
`01:55.03`	`dererk`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`01:55.44`	`pr0t0cod7`	`i love apt =) xD`
`01:55.47`	`dererk`	`apt dererk is a master of the joke! ROTFL xD`
`01:55.49`	`apt`	`dererk: okay`
`01:55.56`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, xD`
`01:56.00`	`dererk`	`apt dererk`
`01:56.02`	`apt`	`extra, extra, read all about it, dererk is a master of the joke! ROTFL xD`
`01:56.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`316960 extents written (619 MB)`
`01:56.06`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt is a virtual pet`
`01:56.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`01:56.11`	`dererk`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`01:56.28`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: ?`
`01:56.34`	`goldstein`	`hum...`
`01:56.39`	`goldstein`	`apt goldstein`
`01:56.45`	`dererk`	`hum...`
`01:57.04`	`dererk`	`apt is pr0t0cod7 some kind of cyber addict?`
`01:57.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 un test de la iso complete... 619 MB, pas mal`
`01:57.07`	`goldstein`	`he doesnt know me quite well, i dont feed him`
`01:57.08`	`dererk`	`xD`
`01:57.15`	`dererk`	`goldstein, lol`
`01:57.31`	`pr0t0cod7`	`lOL`
`01:58.13`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: ok c'est pas beaucoup?`
`01:58.23`	`pr0t0cod7`	`theres some space left :P`
`01:58.37`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, apt stills thinking, It must be taking the choice not to tell you the truth xDDDDD`
`01:58.44`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@pcp02417389pcs.jamsis01.sc.comcast.net)`
`01:58.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`ça va.. j'avait du enlever quelque choses, et il lui manque de l'espace.. logiquement, je supose que c'est bien, en tout cas, c'est toujours mieux avoire moins que avoire plus ;)`
`01:59.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville ! what news ? finally work ?`
`02:00.07`	`roxville`	`lol...`
`02:00.22`	`pr0t0cod7`	`dererk: it's my best friend, he'll never betray me :P`
`02:00.25`	`roxville`	`yes, taking the bootflag off, let me log in as user!`
`02:00.30`	`roxville`	`but...`
`02:00.57`	`roxville`	`the motherfucking ethernet only works half the time`
`02:01.00`	`dererk`	`J'ai une grande idée d'obtenir l'espace libre... Substance d'enlightenment d'effacement!`
`02:01.02`	`dererk`	`lol`
`02:01.05`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: si il reste de la place tu peux mettre les eap en bonne resolution :P`
`02:01.06`	`roxville`	`so the upgrade was not complete`
`02:01.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`<roxville> yes, taking the bootflag off, let me log in as user!`
`02:01.18`	`pr0t0cod7`	`lol`
`02:01.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`O_O`
`02:01.23`	`dererk`	`xDDD`
`02:01.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`in the hardisk settings ?`
`02:01.40`	`dererk`	`On Elive CD`
`02:01.41`	`dererk`	`xD`
`02:02.11`	`dererk`	`roxville, I see you are on you "fucking" 400 pc right?`
`02:02.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 avec les eaps il i un probleme, quand il crée le user, il prend les eaps et il les copies... MB of eap = MB ram need, aussi ça ralenti le demarrage`
`02:02.32`	`roxville`	`=system broken...and i couldn't get the motherfucking ethernet to work again`
`02:02.42`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: ouch`
`02:02.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`mais oui, les eaps ils sont en principe de meilleure resolution`
`02:03.01`	`roxville`	`until now... i'm in livecd mode again...5th try...`
`02:03.08`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: oui ile en avait parlé sur #edevelop apres que tu lai dis je me rapelle, mais je sais pas si ils ont decidé quelquechose..`
`02:03.11`	`goldstein`	`Thanatermesis, "Closing of the Elive Club and Wiki on request of Elive author Thanatermesis."? why?`
`02:03.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville but... the installation works good now ? how to posible to enter with user if you change a setting of the hard disk ?`
`02:03.48`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, pr0t0cod7 dijo que estaria interesante un trueque, yo te ensenio lo que se de ingles, y tu me ensenias lo que sabes de frances! xD`
`02:04.00`	`roxville`	`apt x fr en pr0t0cod7 avec les eaps il i un probleme, quand il crée le user, il prend les eaps et il les copies... MB of eap = MB ram need, aussi ça ralenti le demarrage`
`02:05.12`	`roxville`	`thana, i have no idea! bot... it did`
`02:05.46`	`roxville`	`BUT... it did`
`02:06.11`	`goldstein`	`why did the wiki close?`
`02:06.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`goldstein the wiki im not sure, posible close temporally or posible continue working, the club is closed`
`02:06.59`	`goldstein`	`i noticed..but why werent you satified with it?`
`02:07.00`	`roxville`	`goldstein, for now, it's for the best...`
`02:07.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`because the club not is a good idea, i don't look any good point for the wiki, causes diferents problems or bad informations also`
`02:07.09`	`roxville`	`BUT.....`
`02:07.41`	`pr0t0cod7`	`sweeet =)`
`02:07.44`	`goldstein`	`thx roxville..`
`02:07.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`ñam ? this is not english lol`
`02:08.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es but why werent you satified with it?`
`02:08.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`goldstein for what is good the club ?`
`02:09.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`if you pay 10 euro, you are membership of the club comunity... what is this comunity ? what you obtain ? i can offer any thing for you ? or who offers this ?`
`02:09.43`	`goldstein`	`i dont know...the wiki i think is good for suport, the club, maybe for donations`
`02:10.07`	`pr0t0cod7`	`goldstein: theres a donate button on the page`
`02:10.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`donations is a donation, also included in elivecd.org, the club speaks about a "buy" with "donating"`
`02:10.16`	`pr0t0cod7`	`no need of a club for that`
`02:10.39`	`pr0t0cod7`	`the wiki forum should point to edevelop bytheway`
`02:10.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`the wiki not is the club, but is posible to for this moments the wiki are close, posible a clean, of the information, menus.. etc, and open for the ppl`
`02:10.49`	`goldstein`	`hum, i see, it puts you in a delicate position, like if you were responsible for users who donate..`
`02:11.08`	`roxville`	`goldstein, the wiki WILL be back! we just have to plan a little better and give ppl permission to actually contribute to it`
`02:11.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah, look goldstein`
`02:11.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`<goldstein> hum, i see, it puts you in a delicate position, like if you were responsible for users who donate..`
`02:11.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`then.. the club not is a donation ;)`
`02:11.39`	`pr0t0cod7`	`roxville: maybe if anyone could edit it, it wouldbe better`
`02:11.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`for*`
`02:11.48`	`goldstein`	`i understand Thanatermesis.`
`02:12.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`also, imagine you a member of the club goldstein ... what diferences for you if you have "donate for are a membership" with the club open or closed ?`
`02:12.30`	`pr0t0cod7`	`roxville: i'm not sure.. in general wikis are editable by anyone (wikipedia for eg)`
`02:12.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`imagine of you are*`
`02:12.55`	`goldstein`	`i just got a litle suprised becose i have been away lately..`
`02:13.16`	`roxville`	`yes pr0t0cod7 i agree... but we need to make a layout that really works from the beginning... now there are faq and help and support pages all over the place...and pages that aren't even up`
`02:14.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`also goldstein , the club evotion has caused a discussion in the channel of developement of enlightenment, also one person has writed a mail to the mailing list of enlightenment... this is the final thing of has depassed the limit of the club`
`02:14.29`	`roxville`	`pr0t0cod7, what are you not sure about? i am agreeing with you! the wiki should be editable by ANYONE, yes! :)`
`02:14.42`	`goldstein`	`i see that i lost a great soap last days here..`
`02:14.43`	`pr0t0cod7`	`lol okey =)`
`02:15.09`	`pr0t0cod7`	`roxville, and thanks for the ice cream =)`
`02:15.30`	`goldstein`	`roxville, give me beer and cigarrettes now.`
`02:15.39`	`roxville`	`LOL`
`02:15.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es i see that i lost a great soap last days here..`
`02:16.01`	`goldstein`	`Thanatermesis, una novela mexicana:)`
`02:16.11`	`roxville`	`np pr0t0cod7 ... i thought everyone would like it...now that the wiki is gone so suddenly`
`02:16.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`hahaha, in spanish this is called "culebrón"`
`02:16.46`	`dererk`	`sinplomo, Y.... que tal la peli? :P`
`02:16.50`	`goldstein`	`culebrón? never heard of it`
`02:16.51`	`goldstein`	`lo`
`02:16.57`	`sinplomo`	`dererk, esta bien`
`02:16.58`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:17.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`la perla negra, diamante rojo, corazón de fuego... latin novelas lol`
`02:18.11`	`goldstein`	`Thanatermesis, but the development of elive hadn't stoped right?`
`02:18.39`	`goldstein`	`because that's what i thought when i saw the club and wiki closed`
`02:19.00`	`roxville`	`awwwwww goldie!!!`
`02:19.21`	`goldstein`	`then i wept..`
`02:19.22`	`goldstein`	`lol`
`02:19.22`	`roxville`	`no way! thana is working harder than EVER to get 0.4 out!!`
`02:20.13`	`pr0t0cod7`	`goldstein: that was just a bad dream ;)`
`02:20.18`	`goldstein`	`Thanatermesis, my friend, hal will be always here to test your new software!`
`02:20.26`	`goldstein`	`hal is my machina..`
`02:20.38`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt hal`
`02:20.39`	`apt`	`i heard hal is (Hardware Abstraction Layer) This is the portion of the operating system that lets programs deal with hardware directly. This allows programs needing more speed from the computer to bypass the standard OS calls to hardware. So instead of calling the Windows' API to draw a dialog box, you would go through the pain of actually drawing it out line by ...`
`02:20.45`	`pr0t0cod7`	`erf`
`02:20.55`	`goldstein`	`shut the fuck..`
`02:20.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`no goldstein , the developement of Elive not is stoped :)`
`02:21.01`	`roxville`	`hal is your pal!`
`02:21.22`	`roxville`	`lol pr0t0cod7`
`02:21.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt en es hal will be always here to test your new software!`
`02:22.05`	`goldstein`	`by the way, hal is a laptop, and it was making funny noises when i hold it.. i just opened it ut and found TWO LOST screws inside...scary..`
`02:22.08`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt shuuuttt let Thanatermesis learn english himself`
`02:22.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es hal will be always here to test your new software!`
`02:22.32`	`pr0t0cod7`	`xD`
`02:22.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe`
`02:23.21`	`goldstein`	`the strangest thing is that one of the screws was missing in the OUTSIDE of the box..`
`02:23.32`	`goldstein`	`the other is just bonus.`
`02:23.56`	`roxville`	`i've seen "spanish for dummies"... there's gotta be a "ingles por los idiotas" out there...`
`02:24.14`	`goldstein`	`i need spanish for dummies..`
`02:24.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe`
`02:24.26`	`goldstein`	`hell..i need a home in spain..lol..`
`02:24.27`	`pr0t0cod7`	`rotfl`
`02:25.12`	`*** mode/#elive [+o Thanatermesis] by pr0t0cod7`
`02:25.15`	`pr0t0cod7`	`;)`
`02:25.16`	`pr0t0cod7`	`xD`
`02:25.28`	`dererk`	`:0`
`02:25.42`	`*** mode/#elive [+v dererk] by pr0t0cod7`
`02:25.46`	`*** mode/#elive [-o pr0t0cod7] by pr0t0cod7`
`02:25.51`	`pr0t0cod7`	`=)`
`02:26.01`	`dererk`	`:D`
`02:26.11`	`goldstein`	`is reliver ok? i know he loved that wiki really hard..`
`02:27.07`	`roxville`	`goldstein, he loved ALL of us a little too hard...`
`02:27.16`	`roxville`	`he'll be fine!`
`02:28.08`	`sinplomo`	`apt, x en es screws`
`02:28.13`	`roxville`	`if you wanna talk to him, just go to...#amule #elive #debian-es #unionfs-debian-cd #i2p #i2p-chat #morphix #danix`
`02:28.44`	`roxville`	`he'll be in any of those :)`
`02:28.54`	`goldstein`	`he is here also..`
`02:29.03`	`goldstein`	`oh ok`
`02:29.05`	`goldstein`	`lol`
`02:32.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/cinelerra2-0.jpg`
`02:33.00`	`goldstein`	`im leaving.`
`02:33.01`	`goldstein`	`bye`
`02:33.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`cu goldstein`
`02:34.30`	`roxville`	`wow thana, that looked great!`
`02:34.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`yep, it's cinelerra 2.0 , very wait'ed :)`
`02:35.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`has released today or yesterday... and Elive 0.4 are the first distro to include it ;)`
`02:35.21`	`*** join/#elive forGET (n=johnny@200.121.197.243)`
`02:36.05`	`roxville`	`yay!!`
`02:37.33`	`roxville`	`it looked REALLY good!`
`02:37.36`	`sinplomo`	`yoy`
`02:37.40`	`roxville`	`hiya forGET`
`02:37.51`	`forGET`	`o/`
`02:38.07`	`roxville`	`i guess i should reboot for the upgrade...`
`02:38.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes roxville , very good, and very good software in this version :)`
`02:38.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`you have finished the upgrade ?`
`02:39.06`	`roxville`	`no, i have finished installing elive for the 5th time today :)`
`02:39.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`lool`
`02:39.21`	`roxville`	`NOW i'm gonna reboot and do the upgrade`
`02:39.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`rookmoot`
`02:39.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`ops`
`02:39.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville`
`02:39.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`do you can posible to wait 1 or 2 weeks ?`
`02:39.42`	`roxville`	`ciao....yes thana?`
`02:39.49`	`roxville`	`no`
`02:39.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe, ok then`
`02:40.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville , after the upgrade, remember "elive-skel all" with root ;)`
`02:40.18`	`roxville`	`but i'll install 0.4 on there too, don't worry!`
`02:40.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe, ok`
`02:40.30`	`roxville`	`ok!`
`02:41.20`	`roxville`	`last question... i know...but... do i do "upgrade" or "dist-upgrade" on a newly installed elive?`
`02:41.26`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: elive-skel as root?`
`02:41.37`	`roxville`	`just to make SURE... i have to ask...again`
`02:41.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`better dist-upgrade roxville , but dist-upgrade installs xorg`
`02:41.44`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: elive-skel is not for _users_ configurations?`
`02:42.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 yes, elive-skel upgrade yes, elive-skel all from root for upgrade ALL confs to ALL users`
`02:42.27`	`pr0t0cod7`	`ohh`
`02:42.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`with this, roxville can upgrade very more good the total configurations, also with a sound starting in X :)`
`02:42.42`	`pr0t0cod7`	`i see :P`
`02:43.05`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: must add this in the docs ;)`
`02:43.43`	`roxville`	`do i do "upgrade" or "dist-upgrade" on a newly installed elive?`
`02:43.52`	`mutacion`	`maldita sea... no puedo instalar imlib2 :@`
`02:44.22`	`pr0t0cod7`	`roxville: i don't know..xD it should be almost the same`
`02:44.48`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: difference between upgrade/dist-upgrade?`
`02:44.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville dist-upgrade`
`02:45.02`	`roxville`	`ok, THAK YOU!!`
`02:45.07`	`roxville`	`+N`
`02:45.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`upgrade = upgrade packages`
`02:45.13`	`roxville`	`brb`
`02:45.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`dist-upgrade = upgrade and install new pacakges`
`02:45.24`	`roxville`	`ok`
`02:45.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`if have new for install with upgrading`
`02:45.29`	`pr0t0cod7`	`oh :)`
`02:45.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`then... installs xorg (big)`
`02:45.43`	`roxville`	`yes`
`02:51.35`	`*** join/#elive sinplomo (n=sinplomo@196.206.65.217)`
`03:07.50`	`*** join/#elive nothingHappens (n=chuck@12-219-5-167.client.mchsi.com)`
`03:18.18`	`pr0t0cod7`	`night allz`
`03:19.22`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, Good night! :D`
`03:24.44`	`mutacion`	`nos vemos raza me ire a murmir`
`03:24.54`	`mutacion`	`apt bye`
`03:24.56`	`apt`	`l8tr`
`03:51.48`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@68.235.192.152)`
`03:51.54`	`Elive_user`	`hello people`
`03:52.08`	`Elive_user`	`elive CD rocks but only kicks ass on the CD`
`03:52.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`03:52.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`kicks ass ?`
`03:52.29`	`Elive_user`	`kicks class`
`03:52.57`	`Elive_user`	`I figured out how to fix the network adapter but after I installed some packages with synaptic`
`03:53.04`	`Elive_user`	`my computer became spastic`
`03:53.05`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`03:53.11`	`Elive_user`	`I cannot login`
`03:53.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`you speak about the liveCD or installed mode ?`
`03:53.36`	`Elive_user`	`it logs off immediately`
`03:53.41`	`Elive_user`	`installed mode`
`03:53.48`	`Elive_user`	`LIVE CD rulez!`
`03:54.12`	`eshep`	elive_tank`,
`03:54.18`	`eshep`	`oops`
`03:54.26`	`Elive_user`	`it's the only freaking linux works with my IOGEAR GFR280 !`
`03:54.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`03:54.47`	`eshep`	`Elive_user, what did you install that made it go whaky?`
`03:54.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`what version of Elive you have ?`
`03:54.52`	`Elive_user`	`and nice to see enlightenment after 6 freaking years`
`03:54.58`	`Elive_user`	`hmm`
`03:55.00`	`Elive_user`	`0.3`
`03:55.06`	`Elive_user`	`oopps`
`03:55.07`	`Elive_user`	`17`
`03:55.23`	`eshep`	`its nice to see enlightenment moving forward after so long`
`03:55.44`	`Elive_user`	`17 is better I mean the gaggets are for laptop but who cares finally there is linux which looks like something`
`03:56.03`	`Elive_user`	`I hate to see linux suffer since years and there bunch of crappy versions`
`03:56.13`	`Elive_user`	`geez`
`03:56.24`	`Elive_user`	`but it still doesn't identify my dual PII`
`03:56.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es I hate to see linux suffer since years and there bunch of crappy versions`
`03:56.31`	`Elive_user`	`P3`
`03:56.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe, yep, its the day of new changes :)`
`03:56.58`	`Elive_user`	`so`
`03:57.13`	`Elive_user`	`can anybody get rid off those ugly bars on the IBAR`
`03:57.31`	`Elive_user`	`it's really cool tough but I don't like the bars`
`03:57.34`	`Elive_user`	`hehe`
`03:57.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`03:57.46`	`Elive_user`	`BTW does this version support dual CPU ?`
`03:57.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`you are in the default theme ?`
`03:57.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`the Elive theme can't have this bars`
`03:58.04`	`Elive_user`	`how can I see my hardware stuff in this particualar linux - debian ?`
`03:58.12`	`Elive_user`	`yes`
`03:58.15`	`Elive_user`	`it looks nice`
`03:58.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`support dual cpu, if you install a debian kernel for smp ;) or... you can't posible to boot ?`
`03:58.31`	`Elive_user`	`the battery doesn't work - duh I'm not on a laptop`
`03:58.37`	`Elive_user`	`and the frequency doesn't work also`
`03:58.47`	`eshep`	`Elive_user, you want the "follower" gone?`
`03:59.03`	`Elive_user`	`on intel P33 with acorp 815EPD motherboard with 512 MB ram`
`03:59.04`	`Elive_user`	`haha`
`03:59.20`	`eshep`	`the freq thing worked a couple of versions ago but...`
`03:59.31`	`Elive_user`	`yo homies somebody please enlighten me good`
`03:59.48`	`eshep`	`ok`
`03:59.49`	`Elive_user`	`to be honest I don't care if it really works it just looks good`
`04:00.11`	`Elive_user`	`i't like having a body kit on a cavalier`
`04:00.12`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`04:00.30`	`Elive_user`	`you know it just looks good`
`04:00.31`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`04:00.33`	`Elive_user`	`so`
`04:00.47`	`Elive_user`	`I just wanted to see that my CPU benchmark on it`
`04:01.06`	`Elive_user`	`maybe just the CPU ID that's all I wanted`
`04:01.10`	`Elive_user`	`anyway`
`04:01.34`	`Elive_user`	`my freaking PC got trojans again so I tried to installa OSx86`
`04:01.47`	`Elive_user`	`but heck I don't have SECC2 or whatever on my CPUs`
`04:01.53`	`eshep`	`not easy is it?`
`04:02.14`	`Elive_user`	`I cannot afford an upgrade and spend a bunch of time on OSX for my PC`
`04:02.25`	`Elive_user`	`I just love the way this ELive Cd works`
`04:02.34`	`Elive_user`	`come an hack my freaking PC now hackers`
`04:02.35`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`04:02.40`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`04:02.46`	`Elive_user`	`haha`
`04:03.08`	`Elive_user`	`btw I got the news from osdir.com`
`04:03.31`	`Elive_user`	`also I made a search on altavista.com for enlightenment and live CD`
`04:03.32`	`Elive_user`	`bam`
`04:03.46`	`Elive_user`	`it took me to elivecd.orgasm`
`04:03.47`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`04:03.58`	`Elive_user`	`it was fast to download the torrent`
`04:04.53`	`Elive_user`	`BTW since this thing works on CD I let my daughter mess with the keyboard`
`04:04.54`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`04:04.57`	`Elive_user`	`anybody there ?`
`04:04.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe`
`04:05.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`yep`
`04:05.09`	`Elive_user`	`man tell me`
`04:05.10`	`eshep`	`Elive_user, http://distrowatch.com/search.php?category=All&origin=All&basedon=All&desktop=Enlightenment&architecture=All&status=Active`
`04:05.14`	`Elive_user`	`something about this`
`04:05.20`	`Elive_user`	`new cool thing`
`04:05.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es since this thing works on CD I let my daughter mess with the keyboard`
`04:05.26`	`Elive_user`	`what else can I do with this`
`04:05.33`	`Elive_user`	`can I make a slip stream CD of this ?`
`04:05.41`	`eshep`	`elive...#1...coincidence?`
`04:05.44`	`Elive_user`	`maybe only with my customized desktop?`
`04:05.57`	`Elive_user`	`comostas`
`04:05.59`	`Elive_user`	`amigo`
`04:06.06`	`Elive_user`	`me love elive cd`
`04:06.08`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`04:06.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`04:06.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es can I make a slip stream CD of this ?`
`04:07.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es can I make a slip stream CD of this ?`
`04:07.10`	`Elive_user`	`se hable espanol`
`04:07.12`	`Elive_user`	`hehe`
`04:07.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`hablas español ? :)`
`04:07.30`	`Elive_user`	`te amo elivecd`
`04:07.31`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`04:07.37`	`Elive_user`	`I don't speak`
`04:07.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`04:07.39`	`Elive_user`	`tough`
`04:07.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`what is your problem in the installed mode ? im not good understand`
`04:07.57`	`Elive_user`	`no mames way`
`04:07.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`if you install a apckage, your system is froze ?`
`04:08.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`break`
`04:08.06`	`Elive_user`	`hmm`
`04:08.06`	`Elive_user`	`no`
`04:08.17`	`Elive_user`	`I install some packages like`
`04:08.35`	`Elive_user`	`MCl`
`04:08.42`	`Elive_user`	`I couldn't find MCD`
`04:09.06`	`Elive_user`	`so MCL or whatever had the installer and language support`
`04:09.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, what is mcd ?`
`04:09.14`	`Elive_user`	`goto`
`04:09.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt mcd`
`04:09.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`xmcd - X11 based CD player`
`04:09.57`	`Elive_user`	`flaviostechnotalk.com/wordpress/index.php/2005/09/04/elive-03-review/`
`04:10.03`	`Elive_user`	`I now`
`04:10.45`	`Elive_user`	`that guy recommends to install MCD - integrated configuration tool`
`04:10.59`	`Elive_user`	`I needed the configuration tool on my HDD`
`04:11.09`	`Elive_user`	`and I installed some packages including`
`04:11.12`	`Elive_user`	`hmm`
`04:11.13`	`Elive_user`	`GNU chess`
`04:11.22`	`Elive_user`	`and`
`04:11.23`	`Elive_user`	`hmm`
`04:11.31`	`Elive_user`	`lilo`
`04:11.33`	`Elive_user`	`and`
`04:11.49`	`Elive_user`	`I had to update some library files`
`04:11.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`you need a configurator for the system installed ?`
`04:12.16`	`Elive_user`	`and after the installation I cannot login`
`04:12.18`	`Elive_user`	`yes`
`04:12.23`	`Elive_user`	`si`
`04:12.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`04:12.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`try "elpanel" then ;)`
`04:13.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`its the future panel of control for Elive :)`
`04:13.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`its in alpha release, but with your upgrades... more features ;)`
`04:13.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`after installation you can't login with normal user ? only has root ?`
`04:18.46`	`Elive_user`	`I'm back`
`04:18.58`	`Elive_user`	`ok how do I install elpanel?`
`04:19.13`	`Elive_user`	`I couldn't find a way to download it maybe I didn't pay attention on the website`
`04:19.28`	`eshep`	`apt-get update && apt-get install elpanel`
`04:19.50`	`Elive_user`	`after the packages which I installed I cannot login as root or user`
`04:19.55`	`Elive_user`	`it logs in`
`04:19.59`	`Elive_user`	`and shows black screen`
`04:20.05`	`Elive_user`	`and then goes back to login screen`
`04:20.39`	`Elive_user`	`I did the trick dpkg-reconfigure etherconf it worked great`
`04:20.43`	`eshep`	`run enlightenment for e17 or e16 for...`
`04:21.11`	`Elive_user`	`I shouldn't have said no on the blue screen when I tought my network adapter was installed already`
`04:21.14`	`eshep`	`are you logged in right now?`
`04:21.21`	`Elive_user`	`I'm on CD now`
`04:21.31`	`Elive_user`	`I think elivecd is sexy`
`04:21.32`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`04:21.34`	`Elive_user`	`:))`
`04:21.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user then, for entrance, upgrade entrance package`
`04:21.39`	`Elive_user`	`LMAO`
`04:21.40`	`eshep`	`ok, so apt-get update && apt-get install elpanel`
`04:21.47`	`Elive_user`	`hmm`
`04:21.58`	`Elive_user`	`apt-get what's that`
`04:22.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt apt-get`
`04:22.07`	`apt`	`from memory, apt-get is the best thing the world ever had it's highly addictive and much different than dselect, it's a womans desire, ribbed for her pleasure, a superb text-adventure for tarzeau, now with Super Cow Powers, the kdeinit of package managers, overrated and overused, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200201/msg01699.html, or ...`
`04:22.07`	`Elive_user`	`I haven't used linux since 6 years`
`04:22.29`	`Elive_user`	`ribbed lol`
`04:22.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is apt-get :)`
`04:22.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`the command-line tool for manage the debian packages`
`04:22.45`	`Elive_user`	`BRB`
`04:25.13`	`dererk`	`apt x gr es danke`
`04:30.11`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:30.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`danke = gracias`
`04:30.25`	`sinplomo`	`apt, obedece jode`
`04:30.28`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`04:30.32`	`sinplomo`	`danke Thanatermesis`
`04:30.59`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Si, ya se, solo queria ver si tenia aleman tambien`
`04:31.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, pero no directo aleman -> español`
`04:31.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`tiene que pasar por el ingles`
`04:31.24`	`sinplomo`	`como se pronuncia ?`
`04:31.29`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:31.34`	`dererk`	`sinplomo, "danca"`
`04:31.45`	`sinplomo`	`gracias`
`04:31.51`	`sinplomo`	`apt, gilipollas`
`04:31.52`	`apt`	`from memory, gilipollas is el gay amerikano ke chupa pollas`
`04:31.55`	`dererk`	`xD`
`04:32.10`	`eshep`	`apt x en es Thanatermesis, does the elpanel .eap i made still work for you?`
`04:32.13`	`sinplomo`	`apt, x en gr thanks`
`04:32.29`	`sinplomo`	`juas`
`04:32.30`	`sinplomo`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`04:32.43`	`dererk`	`apt learn rotfl means Rolling on the floor laghing`
`04:33.05`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, como seria pues? :D`
`04:33.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`esa lengua es muy rara y larga.. menos mal que no la hablo, mira la que tienen que montar para decir gracias xD`
`04:33.14`	`dererk`	`apt rotfl`
`04:34.05`	`sinplomo`	`apt, rotfl`
`04:34.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`eshep the eap works good, but not is very intuitive, the problem of the icons is the small size, needs a "understained" image with little icons, is better IMHO use the same used for the panel of control in the liveCD mode`
`04:34.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt rofl`
`04:34.26`	`apt`	`rumour has it, rofl is Roll Over Fat Lesbian. rolling on the floor laughing. Or see rocl.`
`04:35.35`	`Elive_user`	`I'm back`
`04:35.44`	`Elive_user`	`so tell me like I'm a 3 year old kid`
`04:35.50`	`Elive_user`	`how to you run this apt-get ?`
`04:35.52`	`Elive_user`	`apartment get`
`04:35.54`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`04:35.59`	`eshep`	`Thanatermesis, ok, mine wont launch...`
`04:35.59`	`*** join/#elive yawlright (n=ericl@24-52-19-49.sbtnvt.adelphia.net)`
`04:36.09`	`Elive_user`	`jesus`
`04:36.16`	`Elive_user`	`I tought I was the only adelphia user here`
`04:36.33`	`Elive_user`	`ASL yawlright`
`04:36.35`	`yawlright`	`boo ya vermont`
`04:36.36`	`Elive_user`	`?`
`04:36.40`	`sinplomo`	`apt-get food`
`04:36.42`	`Elive_user`	`vermony`
`04:36.45`	`Elive_user`	`actually`
`04:36.57`	`Elive_user`	`I got a DMV question for vermont`
`04:36.58`	`yawlright`	`or vermon`
`04:37.08`	`yawlright`	`k shoot`
`04:37.21`	`Elive_user`	`is it true that you can get motorcycle registration from DMV of vermont via mail`
`04:37.22`	`eshep`	`Elive_user, one more time...type`
`04:37.24`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Ufff, ya tiene ocupado ese termino, no?`
`04:37.27`	`eshep`	`apt-get update && apt-get install elpanel`
`04:37.39`	`Elive_user`	`so they won't even look at your bike they just need the VIN#`
`04:37.42`	`yawlright`	`registration i think yes`
`04:37.43`	`eshep`	`then press the enter key`
`04:37.47`	`Elive_user`	`cool`
`04:37.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`eshep not launch ? mmmh, im not remember, only needs the name of the executable and the name of the Window Class (for enable minimize mode)`
`04:38.07`	`Elive_user`	`I got this freaking chinese bike and DMV of cali is giving me trouble`
`04:38.14`	`yawlright`	`as long as you have a vermont address :)`
`04:38.20`	`eshep`	`Thanatermesis, i gave it no window class`
`04:38.21`	`Elive_user`	`i heard it's easier to transfer registration from vermont`
`04:38.28`	`eshep`	`but it worked fine before...`
`04:38.42`	`Elive_user`	`geez laws are strict in the east coast`
`04:38.42`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`04:38.46`	`Elive_user`	`west coast`
`04:38.48`	`Elive_user`	`wish I were in east`
`04:38.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`eshep type in a console "xwininfo" and select a window`
`04:38.56`	`yawlright`	`they have adelphia in cali?`
`04:39.01`	`Elive_user`	`I would go anywhere in the east but middle east`
`04:39.01`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`04:39.06`	`Elive_user`	`heck yeah`
`04:39.09`	`Elive_user`	`cheap cable`
`04:39.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`xwininfo: Window id: 0x200003 "X-Chat [2.4.5]: <--- window class`
`04:39.17`	`Elive_user`	`only naked broadband you can get`
`04:39.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`then, use: X-Chat*`
`04:39.27`	`yawlright`	`heh`
`04:39.33`	`Elive_user`	`all the MOFO ISPs just won't offer naked DSL here`
`04:39.36`	`eshep`	`<yawlright> they have adelphia in cali? <-- hahaha`
`04:39.47`	`Elive_user`	`it's illegal in california to force bundle`
`04:39.55`	`Elive_user`	`but well they own the government who care?`
`04:39.57`	`Elive_user`	`s`
`04:40.05`	`yawlright`	`whoa... i live 4000 miles away what do you expect`
`04:40.19`	`Elive_user`	`california is the worst state I've even been in laws and employment`
`04:40.44`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`04:40.46`	`yawlright`	`vermont is...different`
`04:40.49`	`Elive_user`	`I lived in Ar for 5 years`
`04:40.51`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`04:41.00`	`Elive_user`	`I drove from there with a trailer behind my caravan`
`04:41.03`	`Elive_user`	`1700 miles`
`04:41.07`	`eshep`	`Elive_user, try VA`
`04:41.31`	`yawlright`	`ugh i drove from here to oregon and back two years in a row`
`04:42.23`	`yawlright`	`how is arnold doin these days`
`04:42.58`	`Elive_user`	`it sucks`
`04:43.14`	`Elive_user`	`speacially the mother truckers`
`04:43.16`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`04:43.24`	`Elive_user`	`they scared the shit out of me many times`
`04:43.27`	`Elive_user`	`they drive nuts`
`04:43.38`	`sinplomo`	`O_o`
`04:43.45`	`Elive_user`	`arnold is growing his muscles`
`04:44.18`	`yawlright`	`good that will help california`
`04:44.18`	`Elive_user`	`and he has a hummer with V8`
`04:44.44`	`sinplomo`	`<Elive_user> arnold is growing his muscles <= and Bush his pockets =)`
`04:44.46`	`Elive_user`	`and we cannot register a 200cc bike here eventough motorcycles don't require smog check`
`04:45.12`	`yawlright`	`is he still talking about building a better cali?`
`04:45.21`	`Elive_user`	`I watched the movie be cool`
`04:45.28`	`Elive_user`	`and I saw honda insight`
`04:45.38`	`Elive_user`	`damn great mileage on that little car`
`04:45.44`	`Elive_user`	`50 + MPG`
`04:45.46`	`Elive_user`	`way to go`
`04:46.03`	`Elive_user`	`I think it's a lot better than natural gas powered civic`
`04:46.04`	`yawlright`	`hmm my volvo gets 28`
`04:46.24`	`Elive_user`	`volvo driving soccer mom`
`04:46.25`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`04:46.43`	`Elive_user`	`where the all the elive users go when the lights go down?`
`04:46.44`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`04:46.56`	`eshep`	`Thanatermesis, thanks, added class "Elive Control Panel" and it works now`
`04:46.58`	`Elive_user`	`ok`
`04:47.05`	`sinplomo`	`it's 4 am ...`
`04:47.07`	`sinplomo`	`:P`
`04:47.09`	`Elive_user`	`thanatermesis`
`04:47.17`	`yawlright`	`hey you have 3 hours on me bud`
`04:47.18`	`eshep`	`i wonder why it worked before without it :\`
`04:47.19`	`Elive_user`	`sorry for the delay`
`04:47.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfect eshep :)`
`04:47.27`	`Elive_user`	`but I need to know how to run the apt-get`
`04:47.28`	`yawlright`	`or 4`
`04:47.41`	`Elive_user`	`I lost my magical linux skills 6 years ago`
`04:47.44`	`yawlright`	`open terminal`
`04:47.59`	`Elive_user`	`root terminal right?`
`04:48.05`	`yawlright`	`any`
`04:48.05`	`eshep`	`sinplomo, go to bed man!`
`04:48.09`	`Elive_user`	`BTw there is bunch of terminals which don't function`
`04:48.18`	`sinplomo`	`eshep, not yet :P`
`04:48.30`	`sinplomo`	`I don't like sleeping :P`
`04:48.37`	`yawlright`	`if root fin if not then type "su -"`
`04:48.41`	`yawlright`	`enter pass`
`04:48.44`	`eshep`	`ok sinplomo, then wait til i go... :)`
`04:48.49`	`anubisthe2nd`	`lol`
`04:48.58`	`anubisthe2nd`	`it's me again`
`04:49.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`anubisthe2nd`
`04:49.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`<eshep> apt-get update && apt-get install elpanel`
`04:49.15`	`yawlright`	`what he said`
`04:49.18`	`anubisthe2nd`	`ok`
`04:49.20`	`eshep`	`ok, new stuff?`
`04:49.20`	`anubisthe2nd`	`so`
`04:49.28`	`anubisthe2nd`	`I type apt-get in terminal right?`
`04:49.32`	`anubisthe2nd`	`and install elpanel`
`04:49.34`	`eshep`	`oh, im an idiot`
`04:49.34`	`anubisthe2nd`	`easy`
`04:49.38`	`anubisthe2nd`	`so am I`
`04:49.41`	`yawlright`	`no apt-get update`
`04:49.56`	`anubisthe2nd`	`but I still make it in the california traffic`
`04:49.57`	`yawlright`	`'apt-get update'`
`04:50.00`	`anubisthe2nd`	`I'm alive!`
`04:50.14`	`anubisthe2nd`	`I see`
`04:50.20`	`anubisthe2nd`	`apt-get update`
`04:50.22`	`eshep`	`anubisthe2nd, just type this:`
`04:50.24`	`anubisthe2nd`	`grassy ass`
`04:50.26`	`anubisthe2nd`	`i mean`
`04:50.29`	`anubisthe2nd`	`gracias`
`04:50.30`	`anubisthe2nd`	`lol`
`04:50.30`	`eshep`	`apt-get update && apt-get install elpanel`
`04:50.35`	`eshep`	`and hit enter`
`04:50.40`	`anubisthe2nd`	`that's what they used to call me in soccer`
`04:50.40`	`anubisthe2nd`	`lol`
`04:50.43`	`anubisthe2nd`	`grassy ass`
`04:50.49`	`yawlright`	`ya the whole thing does the trick too same deal`
`04:51.18`	`anubisthe2nd`	`gotcha`
`04:51.19`	`anubisthe2nd`	`now`
`04:51.27`	`anubisthe2nd`	`I will reinstall the whole system`
`04:51.36`	`eshep`	`why?`
`04:51.43`	`anubisthe2nd`	`but I still like the CD better since it's not hackable`
`04:51.44`	`anubisthe2nd`	`lol`
`04:51.52`	`anubisthe2nd`	`well at least write proof`
`04:52.23`	`yawlright`	`have you upgreded already once before?`
`04:52.24`	`anubisthe2nd`	`BTw is it possible to turn off the text flood while linux is loading`
`04:52.47`	`anubisthe2nd`	`hmmm`
`04:52.51`	`eshep`	`anubisthe2nd, do you want our help or not`
`04:52.53`	`anubisthe2nd`	`upgrade me ?`
`04:52.55`	`anubisthe2nd`	`yhes`
`04:52.56`	`anubisthe2nd`	`yes`
`04:52.58`	`anubisthe2nd`	`eshep`
`04:53.00`	`anubisthe2nd`	`si`
`04:53.03`	`anubisthe2nd`	`senior`
`04:53.10`	`anubisthe2nd`	`I gotta go know`
`04:53.13`	`anubisthe2nd`	`I will be right back`
`04:53.14`	`anubisthe2nd`	`see ya`
`04:53.14`	`eshep`	`then stop typing and friggin read a little`
`04:53.26`	`eshep`	`finally...`
`04:54.01`	`yawlright`	`i like the text scroll at boot it lets me think im more computer savvy than i really am`
`04:54.09`	`yawlright`	`:P`
`04:54.44`	`eshep`	`it makes me feel geekier the more of it i start to understand :D`
`05:00.42`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, por cierto, el bootsplash de Elive permanece el mismo despues de haberlo instalado en el HD ?`
`05:01.11`	`sinplomo`	`o no hay bootsplash ?`
`05:01.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`no hay`
`05:01.20`	`sinplomo`	`pf`
`05:01.24`	`sinplomo`	`:P`
`05:01.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`mf`
`05:01.44`	`sinplomo`	`of`
`05:01.45`	`sinplomo`	`cof`
`05:01.48`	`sinplomo`	`roof`
`05:01.51`	`sinplomo`	`pooof`
`05:01.54`	`sinplomo`	`slooof`
`05:02.00`	`sinplomo`	`croooooof`
`05:02.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`05:02.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt help sinplomo`
`05:02.21`	`yawlright`	`it seems a lot of elive developers speak spanish...explaining why the xchat program is in spanish too?`
`05:02.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`yawlright its a bug fixed for the next release or if you upgrade your .xchat2 conf`
`05:03.05`	`dererk`	`See you all then!!!`
`05:03.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`<apt> no help on sinplomo. Use 'help' without arguments.`
`05:03.14`	`dererk`	`Byes #Elive !`
`05:03.17`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, nos vemos luego`
`05:03.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`venga dererk , hasta pronto`
`05:03.33`	`sinplomo`	`yawlright, elive-skel upgrade`
`05:03.39`	`yawlright`	`k thanks`
`05:03.42`	`sinplomo`	`right Thanatermesis ?`
`05:03.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes sinplomo , with the xchat closed`
`05:04.02`	`eshep`	`upgrade your .xchat2 conf <-- didnt work for me...`
`05:04.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`eshep yawlright update first the elive-skel package`
`05:04.50`	`eshep`	`brb`
`05:05.25`	`yawlright`	`mmm terminal ill be right back`
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`05:06.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`05:06.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`hi Elive_user eshep`
`05:06.19`	`Elive_user`	`Thanatermesis, thanks`
`05:06.21`	`sinplomo`	`Elive_user, works now ?`
`05:06.25`	`Elive_user`	`damn`
`05:06.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`np :)`
`05:07.00`	`eshep`	`did you change the colors too?`
`05:07.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`yep`
`05:07.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`i have needed to use this colors for have the good languages :/`
`05:07.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`not nice ?`
`05:08.44`	`eshep`	`nonono, i like em`
`05:09.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes ? good then :)`
`05:11.50`	`eshep`	`Thanatermesis, what uim works good with elive?`
`05:16.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt uim`
`05:16.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`what is uim ?`
`05:20.26`	`eshep`	`Universal Input Method`
`05:21.11`	`eshep`	`uim - Simple, secure, and flexible input method collection and library`
`05:21.22`	`eshep`	`scim - Smart Common Input Method platform`
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`05:26.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, input method ?`
`05:26.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`i don't know this`
`05:26.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`yawlright don't works ? you need to launch from your user`
`05:26.40`	`eshep`	`ill try scim and let you know`
`05:26.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en fr ill try scim and let you know`
`05:27.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, oriental packages...`
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`05:33.28`	`yawlright`	`ah not in su then`
`05:36.50`	`eshep`	`Thanatermesis, yes, anthy (japanese)`
`05:38.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`heh, i don't know, i don't use it :) works good ?`
`05:39.24`	`eshep`	`maybe, configuring now...`
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`05:41.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`oks`
`05:41.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`yawlright apt-get update && apt-get install elive-skel ... then, with your user: elive-skel upgrade (select .xchat2)`
`05:42.41`	`yawlright`	`:) k tthanks for the help...again`
`05:44.14`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@24-52-19-49.sbtnvt.adelphia.net)`
`05:44.34`	`Elive_user`	`ahhhhhhh english :P`
`05:45.11`	`Elive_user`	`oops`
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`05:47.12`	`yawlright`	`ok thats better`
`05:47.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe`
`05:48.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`i need to make a more user-friendly graphical tool for elive-skel in the "elpanel" for the future ;)`
`05:48.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`in any case, works good :)`
`05:49.51`	`*** join/#elive trick (n=a@mail.faith.edu.ph)`
`05:50.43`	`yawlright`	`ya it worked wonderful!`
`05:53.21`	`yawlright`	`i must say elpanel is beautiful i love the spinning box :)`
`05:54.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`06:09.01`	`eshep`	`Thanatermesis, got it!`
`06:09.38`	`eshep`	`uim-toolbar-gtk-systray rind in engage`
`06:10.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`06:10.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`any screenshot ?`
`06:10.28`	`eshep`	`wait a sec`
`06:11.09`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@32.236.109.219.ap.yournet.ne.jp)`
`06:13.01`	`Elive_user`	`Thanatermesis, 僕の名前はエリック`
`06:13.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`06:13.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`nice !`
`06:13.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x ja en 僕の名前はエリック`
`06:13.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x ja en はエリック`
`06:13.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt wake up !`
`06:13.52`	`apt`	`up !: GOOD MORNING!!!`
`06:14.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`its a program for write in japanese eshep ?`
`06:15.23`	`eshep`	`anthy - A Japanese input method (backend, dictionary and utility)`
`06:15.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`nice`
`06:16.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`and if you enter in a japanese web page.. you have the tittle in the window of the default theme in japanese, yes ?`
`06:18.00`	`eshep`	`yes, the title bar in japanese? thats a gtk thing i think...`
`06:19.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`and.. in the window of the application ;)`
`06:19.07`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis = SENSEI`
`06:19.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`the part of the enlightenment theme`
`06:19.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`06:20.18`	`eshep`	`what part?`
`06:21.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`the border`
`06:21.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`of the window`
`06:22.13`	`eshep`	`yes`
`06:22.16`	`eshep`	`http://www.otv.co.jp/`
`06:22.27`	`sinplomo`	`eshep, ihongo wa muzukashii desu ka ?`
`06:22.36`	`sinplomo`	`*nihongo`
`06:22.46`	`eshep`	`OTV沖縄テレビ`
`06:23.06`	`eshep`	`sinplomo, not really`
`06:32.42`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@213.217.48.68)`
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`06:35.07`	`eshep`	`Thanatermesis, is that the part you mean?`
`06:35.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`euh.. what ?`
`06:36.37`	`eshep`	`the bar at top, with the min\|max\|close buttons?`
`06:36.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`no, the title letters`
`06:37.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`of the border windows`
`06:37.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`of the border window`
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`06:37.45`	`eshep`	`im sorry, i dont know what you mean?`
`06:38.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`the border of your window... of your e17 theme... has a letters, the title of the app, yes ?`
`06:38.49`	`eshep`	`yes`
`06:39.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`this letters :)`
`06:39.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`not is in japanese ?`
`06:39.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`(default e17 theme)`
`06:42.02`	`eshep`	`like this?`
`06:42.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`not receive conection`
`06:42.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`wait`
`06:43.08`	`eshep`	`oops, no port forwards at work`
`06:43.36`	`eshep`	`okokok`
`06:44.01`	`eshep`	`it only goes japanese if im on a japanese website`
`06:44.34`	`eshep`	`i didnt change the whole language, only input method`
`06:45.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17-31.jpg`
`06:45.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`look the border of the window`
`06:46.14`	`eshep`	`yes, exactly like that`
`06:46.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`nice :)`
`06:46.32`	`eshep`	`its a gtk feature`
`06:46.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`not exactly`
`06:46.52`	`eshep`	`really?`
`06:46.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`the borders of your window's not is gtk`
`06:46.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`is edje`
`06:47.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`EFL`
`06:47.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`same to all your e17 theme ;)`
`06:47.12`	`eshep`	`oh yeah`
`06:47.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`raster has implemented it... biggest size but works :)`
`06:48.16`	`eshep`	`i saw it before in the EFL editor on his site`
`06:52.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`efl editor ?`
`06:52.43`	`eshep`	`http://www.rasterman.com/files/expedite-01.png`
`06:52.55`	`eshep`	`i forgot the name`
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`06:56.08`	`Elive_user`	`hey`
`06:56.11`	`Elive_user`	`thanater`
`06:56.21`	`Elive_user`	`I just did apt-get update`
`06:56.26`	`Elive_user`	`what's next bro?`
`06:56.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt-get install elpanel`
`06:56.51`	`anubis_something`	`ok`
`06:57.12`	`anubis_something`	`how do I login as root from a non root user terminal ?`
`06:57.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`type "su"`
`06:57.23`	`anubis_something`	`do I type login ?`
`06:57.24`	`anubis_something`	`ok`
`06:57.28`	`anubis_something`	`my bad`
`06:57.30`	`anubis_something`	`u the man`
`06:57.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`or from the panel of control`
`06:57.51`	`anubis_something`	`muhahaha`
`06:57.55`	`anubis_something`	`I'm root now`
`06:58.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`you have the super-user power :)`
`06:58.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`06:58.15`	`anubis_something`	`and I'm on IRC according to elive "this is stupid"`
`06:58.29`	`anubis_something`	`hehe`
`06:58.36`	`anubis_something`	`I knew I was kinda stupid today`
`06:59.20`	`anubis_something`	`yes yes I see the bytes`
`06:59.54`	`anubis_something`	`so where will that elpanel go after the installation my man thanater`
`07:01.03`	`anubis_something`	`homies are you guys sleeping ?`
`07:01.30`	`anubis_something`	`jesus christ y'all will burn y'alls CD-rom drives`
`07:01.31`	`anubis_something`	`lol`
`07:01.49`	`anubis_something`	`stop leaving the Elive cd in there`
`07:01.50`	`anubis_something`	`lol`
`07:02.37`	`anubis_something`	`BTW how come the background changes random each time I launch the terminal ?`
`07:02.51`	`anubis_something`	`can I change it and make elive sexier ?`
`07:03.22`	`anubis_something`	`is there any torrent client for linux ?`
`07:03.31`	`anubis_something`	`are you there eshep?`
`07:03.59`	`eshep`	`はい`
`07:04.04`	`anubis_something`	`dude`
`07:04.20`	`anubis_something`	`you are counting the sheeps aren't you`
`07:04.30`	`eshep`	`なに？`
`07:04.49`	`anubis_something`	`hiya from Los_Angeles`
`07:05.01`	`eshep`	`im counting the lines you have typed`
`07:05.23`	`anubis_something`	`the lines that I flooded`
`07:05.46`	`anubis_something`	`dude IRC oldskool`
`07:05.47`	`anubis_something`	`lol`
`07:05.50`	`eshep`	`flooding is like ten lines or so...`
`07:05.59`	`anubis_something`	`well this is the tenth line`
`07:06.06`	`eshep`	`i think you broke that one...`
`07:06.07`	`anubis_something`	`if you don't belive me count them`
`07:06.08`	`anubis_something`	`lol`
`07:06.15`	`anubis_something`	`and I will hypnotize you`
`07:06.23`	`anubis_something`	`and put you to sleep soon`
`07:06.42`	`anubis_something`	`crikey`
`07:06.45`	`anubis_something`	`elive panel`
`07:06.47`	`anubis_something`	`finally`
`07:06.53`	`anubis_something`	`looks mean`
`07:07.50`	`anubis_something`	`so I can type elpanel`
`07:07.58`	`anubis_something`	`on the run menu`
`07:08.12`	`anubis_something`	`but where is the reall application ?`
`07:09.17`	`eshep`	`anubis_something, http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=3`
`07:09.28`	`anubis_something`	`thanks`
`07:09.36`	`anubis_something`	`gracias amigo`
`07:09.45`	`anubis_something`	`hmm`
`07:09.50`	`anubis_something`	`it's still not loading`
`07:09.56`	`anubis_something`	`do I need to reboot?`
`07:10.25`	`anubis_something`	`well I'm sorry but I'm used to operata 30K computer systems`
`07:10.42`	`anubis_something`	`and if you help me here I will let the elive spread around the globe`
`07:10.43`	`anubis_something`	`hehe`
`07:11.03`	`eshep`	`put it in ~/.e/e/applications/all`
`07:11.10`	`anubis_something`	`I mean it takes too much effort to get this thing go online and you know it's kinda experimental`
`07:11.19`	`anubis_something`	`not very professional but I like it since I'm a nerd`
`07:11.26`	`eshep`	`or just type elpanel &`
`07:11.53`	`anubis_something`	`I will do with entangle`
`07:11.57`	`anubis_something`	`I did`
`07:12.03`	`anubis_something`	`but still don't function`
`07:12.13`	`anubis_something`	`adios`
`07:12.14`	`eshep`	`anubis_something well I'm sorry but I'm used to operata 30K computer systems <-- wtf?`
`07:12.21`	`anubis_something`	`lol`
`07:12.26`	`anubis_something`	`just being cocky`
`07:12.36`	`anubis_something`	`I don't want you to think I'm stupid or something`
`07:12.41`	`eshep`	`30k?`
`07:12.55`	`anubis_something`	`I chose mac 6 years ago and I'm happy with it and the living I made from it`
`07:13.03`	`anubis_something`	`but now I want a linux on my home computer`
`07:13.12`	`anubis_something`	`linux rocks`
`07:13.25`	`anubis_something`	`and I like elive cuz it looks like mac`
`07:13.27`	`anubis_something`	`with the IBAR`
`07:13.45`	`anubis_something`	`30 Kilobytes`
`07:13.46`	`anubis_something`	`lol`
`07:14.04`	`eshep`	`ibar looks like mac? dont you mean engage?`
`07:14.15`	`anubis_something`	`hmm`
`07:14.17`	`anubis_something`	`yeah`
`07:14.29`	`anubis_something`	`engaged my mind I grasp my throat`
`07:14.32`	`anubis_something`	`something like that`
`07:14.38`	`anubis_something`	`engaged in crime I grasp my throat`
`07:14.47`	`anubis_something`	`dude I haven't heard of megadeth since years`
`07:14.54`	`anubis_something`	`I think I'm getting too old to rock`
`07:14.57`	`anubis_something`	`:(`
`07:15.11`	`anubis_something`	`LMAO`
`07:15.24`	`eshep`	`enlightenment_remote -module-load engage`
`07:15.25`	`anubis_something`	`hey guys`
`07:15.30`	`anubis_something`	`aright`
`07:15.31`	`eshep`	`enlightenment_remote -module-enable engage`
`07:16.21`	`anubis_something`	`hmm`
`07:16.29`	`anubis_something`	`cannot set up the IPC socket`
`07:17.02`	`eshep`	`???`
`07:17.08`	`eshep`	`do this as user`
`07:18.21`	`anubis_something`	`great`
`07:18.29`	`anubis_something`	`gaim has emoticons support`
`07:18.35`	`anubis_something`	`way to go linux`
`07:18.41`	`anubis_something`	`aright`
`07:18.57`	`eshep`	`engage look better?`
`07:19.11`	`anubis_something`	`hmm`
`07:19.15`	`anubis_something`	`nothing changed`
`07:19.23`	`anubis_something`	`what is engage btw?`
`07:20.01`	`anubis_something`	`I have been waiting for the elive since a year to install linux on my HPC jornada`
`07:20.09`	`eshep`	`enlightenment_remote -module-load engage`
`07:20.10`	`eshep`	`enlightenment_remote -module-enable engage`
`07:20.14`	`eshep`	`as user`
`07:20.19`	`eshep`	`not root`
`07:20.28`	`anubis_something`	`I did man`
`07:20.37`	`anubis_something`	`it didn't do jack`
`07:20.38`	`eshep`	`and...`
`07:20.42`	`anubis_something`	`I'm on v.17`
`07:20.48`	`anubis_something`	`it looks kinda like mac`
`07:20.50`	`eshep`	`me too`
`07:20.53`	`anubis_something`	`with the gauges`
`07:21.14`	`anubis_something`	`clock battery(no battery ) freuency and thermometer`
`07:21.29`	`anubis_something`	`and quad desktops`
`07:21.31`	`eshep`	`lclick on the desktop and go to modules`
`07:21.33`	`anubis_something`	`dos desktops`
`07:21.35`	`anubis_something`	`no`
`07:21.39`	`eshep`	`do you see engage?`
`07:21.41`	`anubis_something`	`quadro desktops`
`07:21.45`	`anubis_something`	`what is that ?`
`07:22.21`	`anubis_something`	`there is the IBAR like mac toolbar and the enlightenment emblem on the left corner`
`07:23.07`	`eshep`	`sorry, its time for me to go home for the day`
`07:23.18`	`anubis_something`	`aright i accidenlty didn't leave space on the commadn now I executed the command`
`07:23.28`	`anubis_something`	`it gave me some code`
`07:23.39`	`eshep`	`wrong...`
`07:25.55`	`anubis_something`	`so what's engage?`
`07:26.28`	`anubis_something`	`oh nooooooooooooooooo`
`07:26.39`	`eshep`	`goin home`
`07:26.46`	`eshep`	`later guys`
`07:26.47`	`anubis_something`	`my USB card reader is not working on the hard disk installation`
`07:26.48`	`anubis_something`	`no`
`07:26.49`	`anubis_something`	`dude`
`07:26.53`	`anubis_something`	`don't go`
`07:27.12`	`eshep`	`sorry, its 1630...`
`07:27.20`	`anubis_something`	`no dude`
`07:27.24`	`anubis_something`	`2 more questions`
`07:27.31`	`anubis_something`	`and I will reserve your spot in heaven`
`07:27.37`	`anubis_something`	`hehe`
`07:27.53`	`anubis_something`	`how do I make my USB card reader work ? it works on live CD`
`07:27.59`	`anubis_something`	`but not hard drive`
`07:28.11`	`eshep`	`catch me again in 5hrs`
`07:28.17`	`anubis_something`	`nooooooo`
`07:28.20`	`anubis_something`	`ok man`
`07:28.21`	`anubis_something`	`take care`
`07:28.39`	`anubis_something`	`it's almost midnight here I guess`
`07:28.45`	`anubis_something`	`adios amigo`
`07:28.54`	`anubis_something`	`hastalavista`
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`09:05.08`	`TUNIX039`	`hello`
`09:05.42`	`TUNIX039`	`does anybody else have problems with entrance and a segmentation problem starting it?`
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`09:07.18`	`Elive_user31680`	`yohoooooooooooo`
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`09:13.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`TUNIX039 segmentation fault ?`
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`09:59.25`	`luciash`	`uh oh !`
`09:59.59`	`luciash`	`what do i read here ? -> http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=News`
`10:00.05`	`luciash`	`why closing the Wiki ?`
`10:00.11`	`luciash`	`:(`
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`10:08.14`	`luciash`	`thanks for wasted time :(`
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`10:27.15`	`nomed`	`hi all`
`10:55.05`	`sinplomo`	`hi nomed`
`11:03.21`	`nomed`	`today i'll play with sqashfs :)`
`11:03.33`	`nomed`	`it's seems better then cloop fs`
`11:03.36`	`nomed`	`let's see`
`11:05.18`	`nomed`	`http://gobo.kundor.org/kb/index.php/HAL%20HowTo`
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`11:21.27`	`sinplomo`	`ese _H_`
`11:21.57`	`_H_`	`hola sinplomo`
`11:22.10`	`sinplomo`	`que hay ?`
`11:22.44`	`_H_`	`ma�ana voy a las jornadas andaluzas`
`11:22.57`	`sinplomo`	`_H_, piro a echar una siestecita que no he dormido esta noche`
`11:23.04`	`_H_`	`sinplomo`
`11:23.11`	`sinplomo`	`echate un paseo por mi blog y aver que te parece`
`11:23.12`	`_H_`	`has probado el paquete debian mio?`
`11:23.14`	`sinplomo`	`que me he tirado la noche haciendo el banner`
`11:23.16`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`11:23.19`	`sinplomo`	`_H_, no`
`11:23.21`	`_H_`	`dame la url`
`11:23.25`	`_H_`	`necesito que lo pruebes`
`11:23.29`	`_H_`	`tienes sid?`
`11:23.35`	`sinplomo`	`http://sinplomo.bitacoras.com`
`11:23.38`	`sinplomo`	`estoy en etch`
`11:26.08`	`_H_`	`veo que no usas pasword para entrar en el irc`
`11:26.23`	`_H_`	`si no, podrias responder :)`
`11:26.27`	`_H_`	`en el canal privado`
`11:28.25`	`_H_`	`sinplomo, me preocupa que des tantos datos de ti mismo tio`
`11:28.27`	`_H_`	`no deberias`
`11:28.58`	`sinplomo`	`como si les costara sacarlos ...`
`11:29.10`	`sinplomo`	`IP ---> Telefono ---> ...`
`11:49.26`	`_H_`	`no esta solo la poli`
`11:49.45`	`_H_`	`normalmente la poli si no destacas no suele ser demasiado negativa`
`11:49.59`	`_H_`	`ok`
`11:51.32`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`_H_, que quieres que te diga`
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`11:51.35`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`....`
`11:51.43`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`yo soy como soy y punto`
`11:51.59`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`sino les gusto pues ellos sabran`
`11:52.06`	`_H_`	`te lo digo por experiencia`
`11:52.19`	`_H_`	`doy charlas sobre privacidad por algo`
`11:52.32`	`_H_`	`la gente no sabe el riesgo que corre`
`11:52.39`	`_H_`	`ni el valor que tiene`
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`11:54.33`	`eshep`	`こんばんわみんなさん`
`11:56.46`	`_H_`	`wow! eso es guapo`
`11:56.53`	`_H_`	`ni idea de que dice, pero es bonito :)`
`11:57.03`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`_H_, que mas da`
`11:57.12`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`yo no tengo nada que esconder`
`11:57.40`	`_H_`	`si lo tienes, todos lo tenemos, es precauci�n tio`
`11:58.28`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`eshep, عــــــصام`
`11:58.38`	`_H_`	`asalam :)`
`11:59.05`	`_H_`	`no, asam`
`11:59.15`	`eshep`	`good evening everyone`
`11:59.17`	`_H_`	`mi arabe esta algo mugrio`
`11:59.21`	`_H_`	`hi eshep`
`11:59.29`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`_H_, entonces el unico modo seria meternos todos en salas de jabber y usar jabber con cifrado ? :P`
`11:59.31`	`_H_`	`here is mornign :)`
`11:59.31`	`eshep`	`hi _H_`
`11:59.36`	`eshep`	`i know`
`11:59.43`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`_H_, asalam`
`11:59.49`	`eshep`	`its 2100 here`
`11:59.58`	`_H_`	`no, yo tengo una web larga`
`11:59.59`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`1894`
`12:00.12`	`_H_`	`lo que no pongo es datos para que me localicen`
`12:00.33`	`_H_`	`sinplomo , a dormiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiir :)`
`12:00.43`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`_H_, tu crees que les costaria localizarte ?`
`12:00.45`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`en serio ?`
`12:01.13`	`_H_`	`no lo pongo facil al menos`
`12:01.18`	`_H_`	`y no me refiero a la poli`
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`12:01.43`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`entonces a que ?`
`12:01.48`	`_H_`	`sino a un tio en una tienda de mi ciudad con el que pude haber tenido problemas`
`12:01.59`	`_H_`	`o a mi compa�ero del curro que me tiene envidia`
`12:02.20`	`_H_`	`o a mi geje que pueda estar dispuesto a atacarme para que no le quite el puesto`
`12:02.33`	`_H_`	`o el tio que le robo el bolso a mi esposa y testificamos contra el`
`12:02.44`	`_H_`	`nada de todo eso existe ahora pero ma�ana podria pasar`
`12:02.57`	`_H_`	`y entonces no querria que supiesen mis datos o los de mi familia`
`12:03.31`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`de mi familia no he citado a nadie`
`12:03.45`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`pse, ...`
`12:03.54`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`se supone que tu companero de trabajo sabe tu nombre`
`12:04.02`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`aspecto fisico`
`12:04.06`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`horarios`
`12:04.07`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`....`
`12:04.16`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`mas que eso yo no he dado`
`12:04.17`	`sinplomo\|sleeps`	`:)`
`12:05.06`	`_H_`	`y el que te roba y luego denuncias?`
`12:05.17`	`_H_`	`y el violador que ataca a alguien de tu familia?`
`12:05.22`	`_H_`	`la cosa no es sencilla tio`
`12:05.37`	`_H_`	`normalmente entramos en conflicto con alguien`
`12:05.44`	`_H_`	`no lo podemos evitar siempre`
`12:06.01`	`_H_`	`y cuando se da, que se dar�, la privacidad es algo que sabes valorar`
`12:06.31`	`_H_`	`vete a dormir`
`12:06.33`	`_H_`	`see u later`
`12:07.13`	`_H_`	`lo que quiero traducir al frances y a otros idiomas es como instalar el bulmages`
`12:07.16`	`_H_`	`por ejemplo`
`12:07.34`	`_H_`	`estoy en ello, tengo un blog en frances :)`
`12:07.43`	`_H_`	`a dormir`
`12:07.45`	`_H_`	`lol`
`13:02.49`	`pr0t0cod7`	`dererk: Ok now, you should be able to edit the site :)`
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`13:18.42`	`TUNIX`	`can someone please tell me the URL to a sources.list for enlightenment packages?`
`13:39.15`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, ping`
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`13:45.02`	`ubuntu`	`hi`
`13:45.06`	`ubuntu`	`anyone around ?`
`13:45.41`	`ubuntu`	`I'd like to report that the nvidia drivers are too old and they don't work with my geforce 6200`
`13:50.19`	`dererk`	`ubuntu, The project team would add a multichoice selection to solve that trouble`
`13:50.45`	`ubuntu`	`dererk, in 0.4 ?`
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`13:51.07`	`lilo78`	`Buenas!`
`13:51.32`	`ubuntu`	`go away lilo ! I'm switching to grub !`
`13:52.26`	`dererk`	`ubuntu, Possible, I'm not involved into the devel, maybe into a beta release`
`13:52.33`	`dererk`	`lilo78, Hey! Hola! :D`
`13:52.41`	`lilo78`	`Hola dererk`
`13:52.51`	`ubuntu`	`k`
`13:52.55`	`lilo78`	`Estas listo para venir a tomar mate a la tarde? Je`
`13:53.04`	`dererk`	`lilo78, vamos para mundolinux`
`13:53.09`	`lilo78`	`A ver`
`13:54.17`	`dererk`	`ubuntu, got it?`
`13:55.06`	`ubuntu`	`so Thanatermesis is just gonna keep the old nvidia drivers for tnt compatibility or what ?`
`13:55.58`	`dererk`	`ubuntu, In next releases there would be a multiselection drivers`
`13:56.22`	`ubuntu`	`k- that's ok then`
`13:56.28`	`ubuntu`	`tks`
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`14:05.09`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, ping`
`14:08.30`	`pr0t0cod7`	`dererk: pong`
`14:10.10`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, I'm doing the translations right now, but meanwhile I found a problem`
`14:10.43`	`pr0t0cod7`	`dererk: ok - tell me`
`14:11.17`	`dererk`	`If you click into Spainish flag then it redirect you to /ES/ directory, but not the correct one, try it!`
`14:11.21`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, If you click into Spainish flag then it redirect you to /ES/ directory, but not the correct one, try it!`
`14:11.40`	`pr0t0cod7`	`dererk: empty your firefox cache please ;)`
`14:11.49`	`pr0t0cod7`	`sorry - i must go!`
`14:11.55`	`pr0t0cod7`	`cya later`
`14:12.35`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, cya!`
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`14:17.12`	`TUNIX_`	`can somebody please post the deb repository-adresses?`
`14:17.34`	`TUNIX_`	`or post the URL of an sources.list of elive?`
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`14:30.47`	`Elive_user`	`test`
`14:48.51`	`TUNIX_`	`can't somebody please post repository-adresses for debian sarge?`
`14:49.50`	`dererk`	`TUNIX_, Isn't any line into sources list?`
`14:53.52`	`TUNIX_`	`well got some via lynx.. :)`
`14:54.04`	`TUNIX_`	`ouh.. sorry, i meant for e17`
`14:54.12`	`TUNIX_`	`or enlightenment in generous`
`14:54.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk tienes algun problema con la pagina ?`
`14:55.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk que locales utilizas ? veo un error de locales en un accento`
`14:55.33`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Yo?`
`14:55.51`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, si, es que parece no soportar tildes el hosteo`
`14:56.01`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Las estoy cambiando ahora mismo`
`14:56.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, estaba viendo mas arriba que... "no podias escribir en la pagina "? supongo que lo has solucionado, porque lo veo traducido :)`
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`14:57.01`	`dererk`	`je`
`14:57.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`espera, no las cambies, alli hay un problema, si no puedes escribir tildes... digamos que habran errores ortograficos, dejalo asi de momento y cuando vuelva pr0t0cod7 veremos que se puede hacer`
`14:57.22`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Bueno, ve avisandome si encuentras errores`
`14:57.37`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Ufff, ya cambie todo :(`
`14:57.57`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Tampoco acepta el "¿" ni el "¡"`
`14:58.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno, da igual entonces, ya miraremos luego entonces por los acentos`
`14:58.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`por cierto, responde rapido la pagina ? cuando le das a "guardar", tienes que esperar mucho ?`
`14:59.05`	`dererk`	`Medianamente`
`14:59.06`	`dererk`	`Si`
`14:59.19`	`dererk`	`Digamos que son unos 20 segundos`
`15:00.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`vale, antes tenias que esperar 2 minutos, creo que lo han cambiado :)`
`15:00.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk tienes cuenta en el Trac ?`
`15:00.36`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Trac?`
`15:00.45`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, El de tu pc?`
`15:00.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, http://thana.no-ip.org/trac`
`15:00.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`si`
`15:00.56`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, si, eso creo`
`15:01.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, voy a hacer una pequeña nota para comentaros una cosa importante`
`15:01.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk compruebalo y revisa si tu e-mail esta correcto`
`15:02.06`	`dererk`	`Ok`
`15:02.20`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, En cuanto lo reciba os aviso`
`15:02.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`15:04.52`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Bueno, ya esta listo hasta Screenshots, cuando vuelva de almorzar pego el resto`
`15:05.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfecto dererk :)`
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`15:25.39`	`_H_`	`thanatermesis?`
`15:26.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`si _H_`
`15:26.31`	`_H_`	`que tal ha ido? hay cd ?`
`15:27.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`no, todavia no :/`
`15:27.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`es lo unico que e estado haciendo, intentar hacer una version`
`15:27.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`e conseguido montar un "repo" para poder instalar cosas que ya no estan en los repos... con viejos paquetes`
`15:27.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`por lo menos ya no tengo ese problema`
`15:27.59`	`_H_`	`posibilidades?`
`15:28.23`	`_H_`	`estoy haciendo el doc de la presentaci�n`
`15:28.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`e conseguido hacer un liveCD, una primera version, pero hay varios detalles que necesito solucionar y otros que no estan temrinados (como el correcto funcionamiento con targetas nvidia)`
`15:28.36`	`_H_`	`y me gustaria poner una captura del elive`
`15:28.57`	`_H_`	`me puedes pasar una captura?`
`15:29.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://elivecd.org/es/Main/Screenshots/index.html`
`15:29.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`alguna de estas te sirve ?`
`15:29.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`ayer hice una captura de cinelerra 2.0 que estar incluido en Elive =) pero no creo que te sirva de mucho http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/cinelerra2-0.jpg`
`15:31.55`	`_H_`	`yo no puedo instalar cinelerra`
`15:33.15`	`_H_`	`y si, esa no me sirve`
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`15:34.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`no puedes instalar cinelerra ? necesitas el repo de marillat y bueno, cinelerra 2.0 ya esta en los repos de Elive :)`
`15:34.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`que captura necesitas ?`
`15:34.58`	`_H_`	`marillat no me funciona nunca tio`
`15:35.28`	`_H_`	`hombre la mejor de todas las capturas seria una con un bulmages, pero vamos, con que sea el cdrom ya me iria bien`
`15:35.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk por lo visto las tildes no funcionan ni en los titulos ni en las descripciones, solo en los contenidos`
`15:36.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`_H_ me puedes mostrar tu linea de marillat ? el repo hizo un pequeño cambio`
`15:36.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, voy a ver si veo alguna entre las mias`
`15:37.30`	`_H_`	`#deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main`
`15:37.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`cambia unstable por sid y te funcionará ;)`
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`15:47.22`	`_H_`	`apt-get install cinelerra`
`15:47.23`	`_H_`	`Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho`
`15:47.23`	`_H_`	`Creando �rbol de dependencias... Hecho`
`15:47.23`	`_H_`	`E: No se pudo encontrar el paquete cinelerra`
`15:51.09`	`_H_`	`como es que no esta el cinelerra?`
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`15:52.04`	`roxville`	`howdy! :)`
`15:52.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`cinelerra esta en los repos de cinelerra _H_ , pero depende de marillat por dependencias`
`15:52.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo ! roxville`
`15:52.20`	`roxville`	`yo! thana`
`15:52.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`_H_ sino, tambien esta en los repos de Elive si los tienes`
`15:52.23`	`_H_`	`aps, dame los repos esos`
`15:52.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`how are you roxville ?`
`15:52.29`	`_H_`	`:)`
`15:52.32`	`_H_`	`no los tengo`
`15:52.37`	`roxville`	`i'm ok... lol`
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`15:52.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~minmax/cinelerra/builds/athlonxp/ ./`
`15:52.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`ese es _H_ si tienes un amd XP`
`15:53.00`	`roxville`	`i have to explain this... the computer i was trying to set up...`
`15:53.13`	`_H_`	`no tengo un amd xp`
`15:53.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`_H_ entonces entra en www.cinelerra.org y busca el repo mas apropiado para tu maquina ;)`
`15:53.32`	`roxville`	`the ethernet ONLY worked when i moved the mouse pointer INSIDE the terminal!`
`15:53.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville hahahahaha, you are trying to turning me crazy ? lol`
`15:53.52`	`_H_`	`ya ta`
`15:54.01`	`roxville`	`the mouse was providing interrupts`
`15:54.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`15:54.41`	`roxville`	`I was going crazy!!`
`15:55.00`	`roxville`	`i took it back this morning`
`15:55.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x es en casualidad`
`15:55.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`chance ? mmmh, bad translation :/`
`15:55.47`	`roxville`	`welll`
`15:55.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville this is not posible lol`
`15:55.51`	`roxville`	`accident?`
`15:56.04`	`roxville`	`thana, i'm telling you!`
`15:57.00`	`roxville`	`my brother in law has a computer company... he gave it to me... they had not been able to flash the bios`
`15:57.10`	`roxville`	`and that's probably what it needed`
`15:57.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk check your e-mail`
`15:57.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es they had not been able to flash the bios`
`15:58.20`	`roxville`	`in the end... e17 said "configuration updated" EVERY time i logged in`
`15:58.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville what relation has the terminal with the internet conection ?`
`16:00.34`	`roxville`	`no, it was the mouse... when i "shook" the mouse inside the terminal, it provided the interrupts the connection needed`
`16:00.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`every time ? mmmh, with the same user ? the configuration updated is for if you have a configuration (elive-skel for .e), oldest than the day of is created from the e17 version... if you have look this problem, please make a ticket in "repair/bug" mode`
`16:01.04`	`roxville`	`it's the weirdest shit i have ever seen! lol`
`16:01.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville i don't have look a similar case in all my life lol`
`16:01.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es it's the weirdest shit i have ever seen!`
`16:01.51`	`roxville`	`but thana i'm sure this was only on THAT computer...it was constantly messing up`
`16:01.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`you have access now to this computer ?`
`16:02.05`	`roxville`	`no, i took it back`
`16:02.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`hahaha`
`16:02.34`	`roxville`	`it was for my step son, in order to like linux, he should have a working computer`
`16:02.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmmh, yeah, this is the weirdest shit ever seen , ehe`
`16:03.05`	`roxville`	`i spend 14+ hours trying to install elive...`
`16:03.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`:/`
`16:03.42`	`roxville`	`so... i'll be no nad off today... so my wife won't be too upset lol`
`16:03.48`	`roxville`	`on and off`
`16:04.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es so... i'll be no nad off today... so my wife won't be too upset`
`16:04.47`	`roxville`	`she's working tonight, so... i'll be able to work a little then`
`16:05.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es she's working tonight, so... i'll be able to work a little then`
`16:05.12`	`roxville`	`:)`
`16:05.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe :)`
`16:05.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`good, we look for a final configuration of ivman then ;)`
`16:05.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`finalize the configuration`
`16:05.56`	`roxville`	`yes. have you understood the printer problem yet?`
`16:05.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`and posible nomed help's we in the same channel for the printer problem (no only you, eshep has the same problem)`
`16:06.11`	`roxville`	`wow, weird`
`16:06.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`nope, but nomed like's to make a look for this`
`16:06.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`its another strange weirdest, hehe`
`16:06.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`this problem of the printer`
`16:06.41`	`roxville`	`yep`
`16:07.34`	`roxville`	`if it's of any interest, my motherboard is a Intel D865PERL`
`16:07.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/nada-borrar10.jpg lol blur effect`
`16:08.13`	`roxville`	`with built in USB2.0 and firewire`
`16:08.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`the motherboard don't make's any diference IMHO for ivman`
`16:08.31`	`roxville`	`ok`
`16:08.44`	`nomed`	`re`
`16:08.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`yep nomed`
`16:09.02`	`roxville`	`wow! blurry or not, NICE terminals!!!`
`16:09.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe :)`
`16:09.15`	`nomed`	`i'm diving-into-python untill 19 (2 hours more)`
`16:09.26`	`nomed`	`then we'll take a look on that stuff ..`
`16:09.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, nomed , no problem then :)`
`16:10.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/nada-borrar3.jpg <--- rain module`
`16:12.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/bulmages-1.jpg <-- _H_ , este es el unico que tengo ahora mismo, pero apuesto a que no te sirve xD`
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`16:18.59`	`_H_`	`nubecitas!!!`
`16:19.00`	`_H_`	`jejeje`
`16:22.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`;)`
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`16:24.45`	`Elive_user`	`HELLO!`
`16:24.57`	`_H_`	`thanatermesis, no logro bajarme el cinelerra`
`16:25.06`	`roxville`	`hello Elive_user !`
`16:25.10`	`Rod`	`: )`
`16:25.11`	`_H_`	`deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~minmax/cinelerra/builds/pentium4/ ./`
`16:25.15`	`_H_`	`eso es lo que he puesto`
`16:25.29`	`_H_`	`hi elive_user`
`16:25.29`	`Rod`	`hablamos espaniol?`
`16:25.37`	`Rod`	`soy hollandais :)`
`16:25.42`	`_H_`	`palem el que vulgis nen`
`16:25.50`	`Rod`	`Going to study a few months in barcelona :D`
`16:25.58`	`_H_`	`ido`
`16:26.00`	`_H_`	`:)`
`16:27.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`_H_ apt-cache policy cinelerra ... que candidato te sale ?`
`16:27.27`	`_H_`	`Candidato: 1:2.0.0-1cvs20051102`
`16:28.38`	`_H_`	`lo que no esta en el dir`
`16:29.23`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis dererk por lo visto las tildes no funcionan ni en los titulos ni en las descripciones, solo en los contenidos <--------- Tampoco ahi`
`16:29.32`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, mail recibido`
`16:30.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`bien _H_ , lo tienes, que problema te da el apt-get install cinelerra ? pastea en #flood`
`16:30.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk es posible, tendremos que mirar lo de las tildes pues...`
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`16:31.00`	`_H_`	`thanatermesis ahora si funciona`
`16:31.09`	`_H_`	`supongo que eran dependencias retenidas`
`16:31.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk esta bien el e-mail? es exactamente lo mismo que este ticket vaya: http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/ticket/31 (mas lindo ;))`
`16:31.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfecto _H_ :)`
`16:31.26`	`_H_`	`pero esta bajando la .12 cuando en el dir esta al 2.0`
`16:32.13`	`_H_`	`me voy a bajar el 2.0 y lo voy a instalar con dpkg`
`16:33.45`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Do del ticket me parece bien, estuve pensando como solucionar el tema tambien, asi que, genial`
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`16:36.46`	`_H_`	`el cinelerra tiene muy buena pinta :)`
`16:37.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk creo que de esta forma por el Trac no habria ningun problema :)`
`16:37.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`_H_ si, muchissima :)`
`16:39.25`	thc\|dk`elight	`bis nacher`
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`16:45.57`	`Elive_user`	`yo`
`16:46.09`	`Elive_user`	`it's me again the super dad!`
`16:46.16`	`Elive_user`	`where were we at?`
`16:46.18`	`Elive_user`	`ok`
`16:46.21`	`roxville`	`hello super dad!`
`16:46.46`	`Elive_user`	`so I installed the CD again and did apt-get update and apt-get install elpanel`
`16:46.52`	`Elive_user`	`~ hi roxy`
`16:46.54`	`apt`	`Many greetings, roxy, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty.`
`16:47.22`	`Elive_user`	`I have the same problem ! I login and it shows the gray linux screen and then black and goes back to login screen`
`16:47.22`	`roxville`	`lol`
`16:47.26`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`16:48.07`	`roxville`	`yeah... i just had that prob too on a box i tried to install elive on`
`16:48.15`	`Elive_user`	`hmm`
`16:48.30`	`roxville`	`and i have no idea how to fix it....oh wait`
`16:48.32`	`Elive_user`	`ok so rox tell me about it`
`16:48.36`	`roxville`	`what kernel do you use from grub?`
`16:49.01`	`Rod`	`explorer.exe`
`16:49.43`	`Elive_user`	`what's your config? mine is dual PIII on Acorp 815EPD, 512 MB memory, 20 GB SCSII and 4 GB HDD for ELIVE 8 MB sis I mean it's pretty much compatible I guess`
`16:49.48`	`roxville`	`that's great Rod , i am so happy for you?`
`16:50.04`	`Elive_user`	`I am also surprised that my USB card reader from IOGEAR works on linux finally`
`16:50.40`	`Elive_user`	`is it possible to just copy the whole freaking Cd on the Hard drive and boot it like that?`
`16:50.57`	`Elive_user`	`maybe rip the ISO and boot the ISO with a bootloader ?`
`16:51.26`	`roxville`	`possibly... but that is out of my territory`
`16:51.29`	`Elive_user`	`I mean heck the CD itself functions better then itself on the hard drive`
`16:51.35`	`Elive_user`	`jesus`
`16:51.52`	`Elive_user`	`ok roxville tell me what your config is`
`16:51.58`	`roxville`	`but... when you log on... did you update grub after the update?`
`16:52.16`	`Elive_user`	`my oldschool computer works find with this only on CD`
`16:52.33`	`Elive_user`	`it's a shame that I cannot install OSx86 yet`
`16:52.48`	`Elive_user`	`yo guys and bots help me`
`16:52.54`	`Elive_user`	`well forget the bots`
`16:52.55`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
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`16:53.34`	`kender`	`hello`
`16:53.41`	`anubis_kick_me`	`hola`
`16:54.44`	`roxville`	`i have a intel D865PERL chipset with a slightly older 1.6 mhz processor, 256 M<N DDR ram running at half spped coz of the slower processor`
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`16:55.55`	`roxville`	`anubis_kick_me, you may need to reisnatll entrance...remove it and install it`
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`16:56.50`	`roxville`	`i have 2 5400rpm 40 GB HD's with XP, ubuntu and elive on`
`16:57.16`	`roxville`	`this box would really open up if i got a processor that let the ram work at full speed`
`17:01.57`	`roxville`	`i gotta take my daughter out for a walk or something, she's about to drive me nuts!`
`17:03.33`	`anubis_kick_me`	`what's entrance ?`
`17:03.33`	`anubis_kick_me`	`how can I install I cannot even login`
`17:03.35`	`anubis_kick_me`	`I mean I can install the whole thing over again the 5th time but then I cannot install the updates`
`17:03.38`	`anubis_kick_me`	`I'm gonna be a part of this experiment until I die, please no`
`17:03.40`	`anubis_kick_me`	`hehe`
`17:03.47`	`anubis_kick_me`	`how do I switch windows in elive ?`
`17:03.50`	`anubis_kick_me`	`in windows it's alt-tab`
`17:03.53`	`anubis_kick_me`	`lol same`
`17:04.02`	`anubis_kick_me`	`rox your system is more compatible then mine`
`17:04.05`	`anubis_kick_me`	`yo`
`17:04.09`	`anubis_kick_me`	`people`
`17:04.15`	`roxville`	`entyrance is the log in thing.`
`17:04.16`	`anubis_kick_me`	`jesus`
`17:04.17`	`anubis_kick_me`	`I unplugged the wrong cable`
`17:04.20`	`anubis_kick_me`	`some retardted person is messing with my XBOX`
`17:04.23`	`anubis_kick_me`	`what's ubuntu ?`
`17:04.25`	`anubis_kick_me`	`well mine is eating an apple`
`17:04.29`	`anubis_kick_me`	`and she is mesmerizing with barney`
`17:04.31`	`anubis_kick_me`	`lol`
`17:04.35`	`anubis_kick_me`	`and I'm having my nerd time now`
`17:04.37`	`roxville`	`lol`
`17:04.37`	`anubis_kick_me`	`lol`
`17:04.49`	`anubis_kick_me`	`so how do I install it ?`
`17:04.51`	`anubis_kick_me`	`help me`
`17:04.56`	`roxville`	`ok`
`17:05.17`	`anubis_kick_me`	`or you will be cursed and she will give you a big poopoo diaper it will smell like "indian food in diapers"`
`17:05.25`	`anubis_kick_me`	`lol`
`17:05.29`	`roxville`	`you have to choose rescue install, or what ever it says...in grub`
`17:05.35`	`anubis_kick_me`	`hmm`
`17:05.36`	`anubis_kick_me`	`ok`
`17:05.38`	`anubis_kick_me`	`nice to know`
`17:05.40`	`anubis_kick_me`	`and then`
`17:05.53`	`roxville`	`you log in when it asks you to...command line, all of it`
`17:06.02`	`anubis_kick_me`	`ok`
`17:06.07`	`anubis_kick_me`	`so it's the terminal right`
`17:06.08`	`anubis_kick_me`	`ok`
`17:06.25`	`roxville`	`apt-get remove entrance && apt-get install entrance`
`17:06.34`	`anubis_kick_me`	`I see`
`17:06.45`	`anubis_kick_me`	`and everything will go back to normal right?`
`17:06.47`	`roxville`	`it will warn you like crazy, coz entrance is VERY important`
`17:07.05`	`anubis_kick_me`	`will it be updated after that?`
`17:07.07`	`roxville`	`but since you are reinstalling it...it's ok`
`17:07.32`	`roxville`	`if the && things doesn't work, do it on separate lines`
`17:07.43`	`roxville`	`apt-get remove entrance`
`17:07.44`	`anubis_kick_me`	`yeah I will`
`17:07.48`	`anubis_kick_me`	`\|`
`17:07.51`	`anubis_kick_me`	`lol`
`17:07.52`	`roxville`	`apt-get install entrance`
`17:07.54`	`anubis_kick_me`	`ok`
`17:08.02`	`roxville`	`ok?`
`17:08.09`	`anubis_kick_me`	`do you know anything about flash card readers?`
`17:08.15`	`roxville`	`i gotta go b4 my house gets torn down!`
`17:08.26`	`anubis_kick_me`	`my iogear works on this particualar linux but won't work on HDD`
`17:08.29`	`anubis_kick_me`	`lol`
`17:08.30`	`anubis_kick_me`	`ok`
`17:08.30`	`anubis_kick_me`	`good luck`
`17:08.46`	`anubis_kick_me`	`let her go do that in a park`
`17:08.52`	`anubis_kick_me`	`good luck dude`
`17:09.10`	`anubis_kick_me`	`let me go try this trick`
`17:09.14`	`anubis_kick_me`	`thanks to rox`
`17:09.15`	`roxville`	`thanks, you too!!!`
`17:09.24`	`anubis_kick_me`	`bye y'all I will be right back`
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`18:10.45`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, me decias?`
`18:10.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`euh.. ya no recuerdo`
`18:11.00`	`dererk`	`xD`
`18:11.14`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Toma pildoras para la memoria chango!!! xD`
`18:11.52`	`shay`	`un multivitaminas`
`18:11.57`	`shay`	`:)`
`18:12.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`jeje`
`18:12.10`	`dererk`	`shay, No, necesita algo mas fuerte!`
`18:12.17`	`dererk`	`Un martillazo!!!!`
`18:12.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`hombre... con ese lag que tienes dererk como quieres que me acuerde ? ;) xD`
`18:12.19`	`dererk`	`xDDDDDD`
`18:12.34`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Estaba almorzando!!! xD`
`18:12.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`jeje, ok ok`
`18:12.46`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Quieres que hable con la boca llena?`
`18:12.46`	`dererk`	`xD`
`18:13.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`prueba xD`
`18:13.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo como delante del ordenador xD`
`18:13.14`	`shay`	`seguramente es de mala educaci�n tipear con las manos llenas`
`18:13.16`	`shay`	`jeje`
`18:13.17`	`dererk`	`xD`
`18:13.34`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis yo como delante del ordenador xD <-------- Eres un friki tremendo!!!`
`18:13.40`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Si, ya sabia que hacias eso`
`18:13.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`alguna vez me habeis oido decir "me voy a comer!" ?`
`18:13.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`18:14.03`	`dererk`	`Tambien duermes frente al ordenador y te duchas frente al ordenador, Thanatermesis ! xD`
`18:14.10`	`shay`	`qu� tiene de extra�o comer frente de la m�quina?`
`18:14.11`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, No, leido quizas xDDDDDDDD`
`18:14.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`no, el teclado no me deja`
`18:14.27`	`dererk`	`shay, Que si le preguntas "Quieres?" nunca te responde!!!`
`18:14.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`si me duermo encima del teclado me despierta con un pipipipipipipipipipipippipipipi`
`18:14.31`	`shay`	`dererk, y no es para eso que se cre� el WiFi? ;)`
`18:14.36`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, xD`
`18:14.56`	`dererk`	`shay, Quizas, para algo mas tambien!`
`18:14.57`	`dererk`	`xD`
`18:15.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk has visto el nuevo cinelerra ?`
`18:15.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/cinelerra2-0.jpgç`
`18:15.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`ops`
`18:15.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/cinelerra2-0.jpg`
`18:16.02`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, a ver...`
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`18:16.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`no me digas que no es una maravilla ? :D`
`18:16.31`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Ahora tengo ganas de instalar elive aunque sea en 1gb que tenga que hacer por aqui`
`18:16.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk mejor esperate la siguiente release ;)`
`18:16.49`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Todo por que el fucking repositrorio no me funciona bien :(`
`18:17.29`	`shay`	`cinelerra no viene en Debian?`
`18:17.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`no shay , pero Elive va a ser la primera distro en salir con esta version de cinelerra ;)`
`18:18.09`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, no se que es cinelerra`
`18:18.26`	`shay`	`se parece bastante al Adobe Premiere`
`18:18.38`	`shay`	`detesto el Premiere, siempre he buscado algo para Linux`
`18:18.43`	`shay`	`se ve bastante bien`
`18:18.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk mira el screenshot ;)`
`18:18.57`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Si, lo vi pero no entiendo, es un reproductor?`
`18:19.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`shay pues si buscas algo para linux... es lo mejor que hay ! ;)`
`18:19.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`ademas, todo en tiempo real`
`18:19.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`no como premiere, que hace previews`
`18:19.32`	`dererk`	`:0`
`18:19.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk es para edicion de video`
`18:19.43`	`shay`	`s�, que necesita hacer render antes`
`18:19.47`	`shay`	`es una basura el premiere`
`18:20.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk shay aqui teneis mi primera experiencia con cinelerra: http://elive.xasein.com/screenshots/video3.avi`
`18:20.10`	`shay`	`Avid es un poco m�s c�modo, pero igual mucho mejor si hay algo para Linux`
`18:20.31`	`shay`	`Thanatermesis, no lo has empaquetado en .deb?`
`18:21.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, justamente ahora mismo estaba echando un ojo a avid.. me e bajado una demo de un tal "avid free dv", veamos que tal anda cuando me de por reiniciar... es una pena que no haya nada para linux`
`18:21.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno si shay, tengo un paquete del mainactor por si quieres probarlo... pero sinceramente, es un poco "programita para la familia y hacer 4 tonterias", el cinelerra le da unas cuantas miles de patadas IMHO`
`18:22.08`	`shay`	`Thanatermesis, p�salo a ver qu� tal`
`18:22.16`	`shay`	`Thanatermesis, est�s en pasos a ser debian-devel?`
`18:22.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`shay el cinelerra ? si, lo tengo ahora mismo en el repo, lo incluiré directamente con la siguiente release ;)`
`18:22.37`	`shay`	`p�same tu repositorio :)`
`18:22.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`nah... en vez de hacer algo de debian mejor hago una distro entera xD`
`18:23.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`quiero decir... que haciendo una distro entera no le veo el interes a ocuparme de una pequeña parte de debian`
`18:23.30`	`shay`	`est� bien`
`18:23.57`	`shay`	`igual sigue siendo debian-based :P`
`18:24.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt elive-repository is sources.list: deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive elive main efl Elive`
`18:24.12`	`apt`	`Thanatermesis: okay`
`18:24.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, esta basado en debian`
`18:24.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt elive-repository`
`18:24.20`	`apt`	`well, elive-repository is sources.list: deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive elive main efl Elive`
`18:24.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`ops`
`18:24.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`mal`
`18:24.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt no, elive-repository is in your sources.list: deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive elive main efl elive`
`18:24.43`	`apt`	`okay, Thanatermesis`
`18:24.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt elive-repository`
`18:24.48`	`apt`	`[elive-repository] in your sources.list: deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive elive main efl elive`
`18:25.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, ahora esta bien (pequeño error de mayusculas)`
`18:25.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`si tienes el repo de marillat tambien, podras instalarlo shay ;)`
`18:25.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero si no usas elive... mejor comenta el repo o tu debian se elivizará xD`
`18:26.46`	`shay`	`la verdad es que desde que Chris cambi� la direcci�n no lo he cambiado en el sources.list`
`18:26.50`	`shay`	`deber�a ya`
`18:26.59`	`shay`	`jeje`
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`18:30.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`la verdad es que cinelerra hoy en dia funciona muy bien, y con esta version 2.0 tienes para mover las "3 axes" del video desde el timeline propio, tambien el aspect ratio`
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`18:32.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra_screen3.jpg`
`18:33.31`	`Parallax_`	`I've just installed elive 0.3 on my laptop worked ok, then it off. I turn it on now I I get the logon screen but nothing happens whn I enter user and pass`
`18:33.53`	`Parallax_`	`Where are the logs for that to check where the error is ?`
`18:34.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`Parallax_ delete your blank lines in /etc/environment and upgrade your entrance package`
`18:34.36`	`roxville`	`Parallax_, did you do an upgrade too?`
`18:34.55`	`roxville`	`yes`
`18:34.59`	`roxville`	`:)`
`18:36.09`	`dererk`	`aptitude update roxville 's jokes`
`18:37.06`	`roxville`	`lol... dererk , there's no hope for improvements in my jokes`
`18:37.38`	`roxville`	`aptitude crashes when i try`
`18:38.02`	`dererk`	`apt rotfl`
`18:38.03`	`sinplomo`	`segmentation fault`
`18:38.07`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`18:38.12`	`dererk`	`rotfl`
`18:38.37`	`sinplomo`	`aot rofl`
`18:38.49`	`sinplomo`	`apt rofl`
`18:38.50`	`apt`	`i heard rofl is Roll Over Fat Lesbian. rolling on the floor laughing. Or see rocl.`
`18:39.53`	`dererk`	`sinplomo, ;)`
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`18:45.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`Parallax_ ?`
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`18:50.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk hiciste un cambio en el ticket 31 ? e recibido un e-mail..`
`18:52.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es a few in here use urxvt.`
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`18:55.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es I think it sets the root pixmap automatically now`
`18:57.30`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, why don't you open another channel where you can have apt all to yourself?`
`18:57.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe, yes`
`18:59.28`	`roxville`	`#apt&thana`
`19:00.06`	`da_bon_bon`	`hi guys`
`19:00.12`	`da_bon_bon`	`when is elive .4 due ?`
`19:03.04`	`roxville`	`we're hoping within 2 weeks da_bon_bon`
`19:03.33`	`roxville`	`depends on how much trouble we run into when we test it`
`19:03.45`	`da_bon_bon`	`ok.`
`19:03.47`	`da_bon_bon`	`can i test it now ?`
`19:04.40`	`roxville`	`it's not ready yet... all the upgrades will take you closer... but we're testing a couple of auto-config apps that we hope will be really cool`
`19:05.02`	`da_bon_bon`	`i want to join the testing team :(`
`19:05.03`	`da_bon_bon`	`:)`
`19:05.25`	`roxville`	`or...we are configuring the config apps so they will hopefully do what they are supposed to do!`
`19:05.41`	`roxville`	`sorry for the confusing answer :)`
`19:05.58`	`da_bon_bon`	`i understand`
`19:05.59`	`da_bon_bon`	`:)`
`19:06.15`	`roxville`	`well you are more than welcome!`
`19:06.31`	`roxville`	`just grab a shovel in the corner there, and dig in!`
`19:07.00`	`da_bon_bon`	`where can i get a latest testing iso ?`
`19:07.03`	`da_bon_bon`	`lol`
`19:07.34`	`roxville`	`lol, you just installed it`
`19:07.59`	`roxville`	`0.3 is the testing iso`
`19:08.07`	`da_bon_bon`	`roxville: oh, install 0.3 and then keep upgrading ?`
`19:08.22`	`roxville`	`do an apt-get dist-upgrade`
`19:08.27`	`roxville`	`yep`
`19:08.28`	`da_bon_bon`	`ok.`
`19:08.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es and that was a couple weeks ago so it might be fixed now`
`19:09.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es and that was a couple weeks ago so it might be fixed now`
`19:09.15`	`roxville`	`try to spend as much time here as possible, this is where most of the stuff is discussed and announced`
`19:10.59`	`roxville`	`da_bon_bon, i hope you have a fast connection!`
`19:11.11`	`roxville`	`coz there's quite a bit of updates`
`19:11.15`	`da_bon_bon`	`roxville: err.. 26kbps :)`
`19:11.21`	`da_bon_bon`	`i will wait for 0.4 iso itself`
`19:11.22`	`roxville`	`ooohhh`
`19:11.50`	`roxville`	`lol, that might be a good idea...`
`19:11.58`	`roxville`	`i'm sorry`
`19:12.02`	`da_bon_bon`	`:(`
`19:12.05`	`da_bon_bon`	`india has bad net`
`19:12.17`	`roxville`	`but you can still put your 2 cents in in here`
`19:12.52`	`roxville`	`i don't know your experience level, but... anybody who wants are welcome to help out`
`19:13.08`	`roxville`	`india has good tea!`
`19:13.35`	`da_bon_bon`	`and nothing else`
`19:14.00`	`roxville`	`come on!!`
`19:14.30`	`roxville`	`i've seen some REALLY nice looking ladies from india`
`19:14.46`	`roxville`	`i mean... GORGEOUS`
`19:15.12`	`roxville`	`and soooo many good programmers are from india`
`19:15.13`	`da_bon_bon`	`hehe`
`19:15.23`	`da_bon_bon`	`right.. . but net still sux`
`19:15.38`	`roxville`	`ok, we can agree on that :)`
`19:16.13`	`roxville`	`so... are you just out trying distros, have you done any "linuxing" before?`
`19:16.41`	`da_bon_bon`	`lot of linuxing`
`19:16.42`	`da_bon_bon`	`:)`
`19:16.48`	`roxville`	`this is NOT an interview, i'm just chatting, ok? lol`
`19:16.56`	`da_bon_bon`	`sure ..`
`19:17.05`	`roxville`	`i'm not a developer, i just help out a little too`
`19:18.20`	`roxville`	`but we need serious linux help, not just my fievel startup sounds`
`19:18.29`	`da_bon_bon`	`hehe ..`
`19:18.33`	`roxville`	`:)`
`19:18.38`	`da_bon_bon`	`anyway .. its 1.00 am out here`
`19:18.41`	`da_bon_bon`	`need to sleep`
`19:18.43`	`da_bon_bon`	`cya ..`
`19:18.44`	`da_bon_bon`	`:)`
`19:18.52`	`da_bon_bon`	`roxville: nice talking to yeh :)`
`19:18.55`	`roxville`	`which you will hear every time you start 0.4`
`19:19.01`	`roxville`	`pls come back!`
`19:19.02`	`roxville`	`:)`
`19:19.05`	`da_bon_bon`	`sure`
`19:19.07`	`roxville`	`good night`
`19:19.09`	`da_bon_bon`	`i love live`
`19:19.11`	`da_bon_bon`	`*elive`
`19:19.13`	`da_bon_bon`	`;)`
`19:19.19`	`roxville`	`good!`
`19:19.19`	`da_bon_bon`	`good nite, roxville`
`19:19.25`	`da_bon_bon`	`cya`
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`19:30.50`	`roxville`	`hi there Elive_user`
`19:30.50`	`roxville`	`rough log on? :)`
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`20:08.06`	`_H_`	`thanatermesis`
`20:08.07`	`_H_`	`alguna noticia?`
`20:08.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`pocas... sigo intentando hacerlo funcionar un poco, queda mucho curro aun :/`
`20:19.05`	`_H_`	`thanatermesis, lo necesitabamos para esta ma�ana`
`20:19.19`	`_H_`	`debes estar de los nervios XDD`
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`20:25.36`	`_H_`	`bueno thanatermesis que opinas? que hacemos?`
`20:29.37`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, No, es solo una confirmacion de que lo recibi`
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`20:37.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`_H_ pues no lo se pero lo veo muy dificil... ahora mismo por ejemplo estoy retocando el codigo fuente del instalador, que han upgradeado y tengo que ponerlo "de mi forma"`
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`20:38.13`	`Hendrick`	`re all`
`20:38.34`	`Hendrick`	`how is your elive doing roxville ?`
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`20:49.25`	`roxville`	`hi hendrick... it's doing ok thanks, how's yours? :)`
`20:49.59`	`Hendrick`	`mine was also yesterday fine :)`
`20:51.20`	`Hendrick`	`you were doing upgrade instead of dst-upgrade? was this the problem, or what caused it?`
`20:51.26`	`roxville`	`ok, good! eh... not today?`
`20:51.45`	`roxville`	`oh that... for my step sons computer`
`20:51.52`	`Hendrick`	`mine is fine even today :)`
`20:52.17`	`Hendrick`	`ah, I understand.`
`20:52.20`	`roxville`	`yes, the computer itself had BIG problems...so i got rid of it today...it needed a bios flash`
`20:52.38`	`Hendrick`	`so mainly hw problem`
`20:56.57`	`Hendrick`	`my raid controller has done some interesting things but it was just the cable, I was lucky :)`
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`21:09.35`	`roxville`	`Hendrick, pls forgive me, i am cooking dinner, so i'm on and off quite a bit :)`
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`21:14.45`	`_Red_`	`naz`
`21:15.12`	`dererk`	`_Red_, Nas noches`
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`21:16.29`	`_Red_`	`dererk hellou`
`21:16.39`	`dats`	`hello`
`21:18.08`	`dererk`	`dats, nas 2`
`21:18.17`	`Hendrick`	`no problem roxville :)`
`21:24.08`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, :D~~`
`21:25.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`que pasó dererk ?`
`21:26.02`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Las tildes estan por todos lados!!!! xD`
`21:28.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya funciona los caracteres especiales dererk ?`
`21:28.56`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, para nada xD`
`21:29.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`entonces ? xD`
`21:29.18`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Eso, que veo errores en las tildes por todos lados!! xD`
`21:29.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
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`21:53.12`	`_Red_`	`buenas`
`21:53.18`	`_Red_`	`tengo una duda`
`21:53.20`	`dererk`	`_Red_, Nas noches`
`21:53.21`	`dererk`	`xD`
`21:53.24`	`_Red_`	`xD`
`21:53.35`	`_Red_`	`el paquete engage viene en e16?`
`21:53.56`	`dererk`	`Ummm, creo que no`
`21:54.04`	`dererk`	`_Red_, Has preguntado en #e-es ?`
`21:54.15`	`_Red_`	`nop xD`
`21:54.19`	`dererk`	`#e.es perdon`
`21:54.28`	`_Red_`	`es q a veces no hay nadie`
`21:54.34`	`dererk`	`Ah`
`21:55.04`	`_Red_`	`si hay pero nadie responde xD`
`21:56.24`	`dererk`	`_Red_, quedate por aqui hasta que alguien que sepa responda`
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`22:04.40`	`_Red_`	`oka dererk ;)`
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`22:06.48`	`dats`	`nas dererk`
`22:06.48`	`dats`	`mmmm`
`22:06.48`	`dats`	`_Red_: que distribucion utilitzs ?`
`22:07.02`	`_Red_`	`ubuntu`
`22:07.04`	`dererk`	`nas dats !`
`22:07.27`	`dererk`	`_Red_, Ummm, no tienes la oportunidad de descargar Elive?`
`22:07.39`	`dererk`	`_Red_, Tambien es un LiveCd y no tienes que instalarlo si no quieres`
`22:08.01`	`dererk`	`_Red_, Y, ademas de todo, carga en menos de la mitad de tiempo que Ubuntu/Kubuntu`
`22:08.12`	`_Red_`	`si, ya lo probare pero ahora no`
`22:08.27`	`_Red_`	`elive q e trae?`
`22:08.33`	`_Red_`	`e17?`
`22:09.44`	`dererk`	`_Red_, Ambos, E16 y E17, lo eliges al momento de el inicio ;)`
`22:10.06`	`_Red_`	`pero ahora mi duda es saber si e16 trae el paquete engage`
`22:11.37`	`dererk`	`_Red_, El de Elive Si ;)`
`22:11.50`	`_Red_`	`joder dererk xD`
`22:12.03`	`dererk`	`_Red_, ;)`
`22:12.04`	`_Red_`	`ya probare el elive pero no ahora xD`
`22:12.19`	`dererk`	`:(`
`22:12.27`	`dererk`	`_Red_, Anda! Descargalo! xD`
`22:12.53`	`_Red_`	`se basa en debian?`
`22:12.56`	`dererk`	`_Red_, "No te costara nada.... Solo tu ALMA" (extracto de un episodio de Los Simpsons" xDDDD`
`22:13.01`	`dererk`	`_Red_, Claro!!!`
`22:13.09`	`dererk`	`_Red_, www.elivecd.org/es`
`22:13.12`	`_Red_`	`pero que caracteristicas tiene?`
`22:13.15`	`_Red_`	`ya`
`22:13.30`	`dererk`	`_Red_, perdon, www.elivecd.org`
`22:16.22`	`_Red_`	`continuo: e16 trae el paquete engage?`
`22:18.53`	`dererk`	`_Red_, El de Elive si`
`22:18.54`	`dererk`	`xD`
`22:19.00`	`dererk`	`_Red_, Ya os dije, npi`
`22:20.09`	`dats`	`_Red_: diria que no`
`22:20.10`	`_Red_`	`otro?`
`22:20.10`	`_Red_`	`continuo: e16 trae el paquete engage?`
`22:20.13`	`_Red_`	`xD`
`22:20.28`	`_Red_`	`pos ya me convenci q no`
`22:20.38`	`_Red_`	`ni modo usare el de e17`
`22:20.45`	`dats`	`�?`
`22:20.51`	`dats`	`ni modo usare el de e17 ?`
`22:20.54`	`dats`	`que quieres decir ?`
`22:21.09`	`_Red_`	`digo...usare el engage`
`22:21.17`	`_Red_`	`que es parte de e17`
`22:21.34`	`dats`	`_Red_: con debian ?`
`22:21.39`	`_Red_`	`si`
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`22:36.23`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, ping`
`22:37.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk pong`
`22:37.26`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Oye, ya he terminado ^^`
`22:37.35`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Pero me temo que debe de haber errores por todos lados`
`22:37.49`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, enviamelos por privado si los encuentras por favor`
`22:38.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`errores ortograficos ?`
`22:38.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`uf... si supieras la de cosas que estoy haciendo a la vez... xD`
`22:38.45`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Nono, digo que si los ves`
`22:39.45`	`sinplomo`	`dererk, pasa el enlace`
`22:39.48`	`sinplomo`	`que te lo reviso`
`22:39.55`	`dererk`	`www.elivecd.org`
`22:39.55`	`dererk`	`xD`
`22:40.21`	`dererk`	`sinplomo, Oye, y como piensas que puedo ver tu blog si no tengo el link? xDDDDDDDDD`
`22:40.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`modificando el codigo fuente del instalador, empaquetandolo y testeandolo en una maquina virutla, preparando la conf del ivman, buscando un problema de deteccion de impresora, mirando nuevos features en el e17 y actualizando el repo, modificando varios paquetes, haciendo pruebas de transparencia, cambiando los scripts de arranque y implementando un menu para seleccionar resolucion y drivers graficos...`
`22:40.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`creo que no me olvido de nada :/`
`22:40.40`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Ya, ya`
`22:40.48`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, No hacia falta humillarme :(`
`22:40.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`humillarte ? porque dices eso ?`
`22:41.11`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Naa, broma ;)`
`22:41.26`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Bueno, lo reformulo`
`22:41.59`	`dererk`	`SI alguna vez pasas por el site de elive en espaniol y llegas a encontrar algo que te parezca incorrecto, avisame, ok Thanatermesis ?`
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`22:42.31`	`Elive_user`	`hi`
`22:42.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`espaniol... xDDD eso es que te le has pillado la costumbre a la pagina ? xD`
`22:42.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`hi Elive_user`
`22:43.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfecto dererk :)`
`22:43.15`	`Elive_user`	`gotta say, this is the first time ive tried this distro and i am helluh impressed`
`22:43.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`nice :)`
`22:43.32`	`dererk`	`Elive_user, We too ;)`
`22:43.34`	`Elive_user`	`todo en espagnol aqui?`
`22:43.36`	`Elive_user`	`ah`
`22:43.38`	`Elive_user`	`hehe`
`22:43.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`why you are impressed ?`
`22:43.49`	`Elive_user`	`the best looking distro ive ever used`
`22:43.51`	`dererk`	`Elive_user, No, not all`
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`22:44.18`	`Elive_user`	`and it detected EVERYTHING in the comp`
`22:44.24`	`Elive_user`	`knoppix hasnt even accomplished that`
`22:44.38`	`Elive_user`	`im digging this more than ubuntu`
`22:44.49`	`dererk`	`Ubuntu? Wtf is that?`
`22:44.51`	`dererk`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:44.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfect then ! :)`
`22:45.04`	`Elive_user`	`another distro`
`22:45.13`	`Elive_user`	`won best distro this year, i think`
`22:45.21`	`dererk`	`Elive_user, ¬¬`
`22:45.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed has visto eso ? parece que las detecciones de morphix funcionan muy bien al fin y al cabo, es la 3º persona que me lo dice en estos ultimos dias`
`22:45.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`ubuntu ?`
`22:45.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt ubunut`
`22:45.47`	`dererk`	`Elive_user, Try to use Ubuntu/Kubuntu on a p200 or higher and then let me now`
`22:45.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt ubuntu`
`22:45.49`	`apt`	`from memory, ubuntu is the linux distro that Thanatermesis uses it at school and it's caca from this ass http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3843/18427557718e22857e9rb.jpg`
`22:45.52`	`dererk`	`know*`
`22:45.58`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, xD`
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`22:46.26`	`tedder`	`why is that?`
`22:46.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`i not use it ! i look only their's stability xD`
`22:46.47`	`dererk`	`tedder, Cause Enlightenment code is quite optimized`
`22:46.51`	`tedder`	`ah`
`22:47.19`	`dererk`	`apt x en es Enlightenment`
`22:47.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDD`
`22:47.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt enlightenment`
`22:47.36`	`apt`	`Fast, flexible and very extensible Window Manager. URL: http://www.enlightenment.org/`
`22:47.42`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, lol`
`22:47.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt dererk`
`22:47.53`	`apt`	`i heard dererk is a master of the joke! ROTFL xD`
`22:48.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`22:48.38`	`dererk`	`tedder, don't take my opinion, go for you own and try Elive and Ubuntu/Kubuntu on a p200 o higher pc and then let me you if I'm wrong`
`22:48.43`	`dererk`	`apt Thanatermesis`
`22:48.44`	`apt`	`from memory, thanatermesis is the founder and leader of Elive. http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org`
`22:48.47`	`dererk`	`xD`
`22:48.59`	`dererk`	`apt, Nonono, Thanatermesis es gay! Eso debes decir!`
`22:49.00`	`dererk`	`xD`
`22:49.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`quieres ver mi novia ? ;)`
`22:49.27`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Dale!!! :D`
`22:49.37`	`tedder`	`ill do that --- my cousin is big into ubuntu and has been trying to get me to switch, but i think ill show him this :)`
`22:49.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`que va, me a dicho que si muestro su foto por internet me deja xD`
`22:49.48`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Dame su direccion y yo la ir a ver!`
`22:49.49`	`dererk`	`xDDD`
`22:50.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`si si.. que te lo crees tu xD`
`22:50.15`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, xD`
`22:50.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`ademas, como no vengas a belgica... xD`
`22:50.34`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, aaanda, solo por dcc !! xDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`22:50.47`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Tu novia es el producto de la fama de Elive????`
`22:50.56`	`dererk`	`xDDDDDD`
`22:51.00`	`dererk`	`Elive2`
`22:51.01`	`dererk`	`xD`
`22:52.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`el producto de la fama de Elive dererk ?`
`22:52.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`ella no tiene ni idea de lo que hago, y si fuera por ella, no tocaria el ordenador`
`22:52.27`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, xD`
`22:52.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`me tiene prohibido tocar el ordenador cuando esta aqui, asi que solo puedo trabajar bien cuando no esta xD`
`22:52.45`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Yyy, te vio la cara y ha dicho "Si toco el pc, quedare como tu?" xDDDDDDDDD`
`22:53.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`que mala hostia... xD`
`22:54.06`	`dererk`	`xDDDDDDDD`
`22:54.09`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, joder`
`22:54.17`	`dererk`	`Que mal sentido del humor tienes!!!!`
`22:57.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo ?`
`22:57.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`si yo no e dicho nada xd`
`22:57.48`	`dererk`	`;)`
`22:57.54`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, wuapa, no te enojes ;)`
`23:02.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
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`23:15.38`	`cuc`	`hola`
`23:16.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`cuc cuc cuc !`
`23:16.27`	`cuc`	`:)`
`23:16.34`	`cuc`	`hi Thanatermesis !`
`23:18.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`com anem ?`
`23:18.31`	`cuc`	`be, jejej`
`23:18.38`	`cuc`	`gozando de e17!`
`23:18.48`	`cuc`	`:) cada vez va mejor!`
`23:18.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehehe, ja tho has instalat ?`
`23:19.04`	`cuc`	`y veo que se va cumpliendo lo que me digiste`
`23:19.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`esclar ! cada dia está mes desarrotjat`
`23:19.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`jeje, que te dije ?`
`23:19.49`	`cuc`	`que raster queria hacerlo igual o tan bueno como e16`
`23:20.03`	`cuc`	`y cada vez veo mas de eso`
`23:20.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`sip, justamente por eso ahora me esta gustando y estoy a punto de pasarme ;)`
`23:20.54`	`cuc`	`yo ya he pasado, me mata tener que volver a dejarlo como lo tenia`
`23:21.02`	`cuc`	`no tengo tiempo para configuraciones`
`23:21.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`e17 ?`
`23:21.35`	`cuc`	`y como casi no me da problemas pues utilizo e17 en vez de e16`
`23:21.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah, e16, jeje`
`23:21.51`	`cuc`	`no, me mata configurar e16`
`23:22.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, cuando tienes que hacer la conf de nuevo toca un poco los huevos`
`23:22.07`	`cuc`	`jeje`
`23:22.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero si quieres un consejo, cuando la vayas a hacer, utiliza elive-skel de Elive ;)`
`23:22.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`elive-skel upgrade`
`23:22.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`y eliges el e16`
`23:22.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`te pondra "la conf de elive" ;)`
`23:22.49`	`cuc`	`aj? ok, pues voy ha hacerlo ahora!`
`23:22.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`seguro que se parce mucho mas a tu conf que la que tendrias por defecto en e16`
`23:23.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso si`
`23:23.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`ten en cuenta que el elive-skel trabaja desde /etc/skel, asi que te pondrá un /etc/skel a su modo... pero supongo que eso no te molesta, sino, borras una conf y fuera xD`
`23:24.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`por cierto, a que no sabes cuala va a ser la primera distro que tendrá cinelerra 2 ? ;)`
`23:24.11`	`cuc`	`:)))`
`23:24.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/cinelerra2-0.jpg`
`23:24.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`no me digas que no se te cae la baba ;)`
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`23:25.54`	`cuc`	`una lagrima y too`
`23:27.13`	`cuc`	`tus paquetes de elive que son, para testing?`
`23:27.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`sip :)`
`23:27.47`	`cuc`	`esque pase a sid no hace mucho y hay algunos paquetes que tienen errores de dependencias`
`23:28.10`	`cuc`	`imagin? que era por eso`
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`23:32.30`	`quidam-`	`Thanatermesis HELP¡`
`23:32.45`	`quidam-`	`no se que paso con evidence :S`
`23:32.52`	`quidam-`	`ha desaparecido del panel`
`23:32.59`	`quidam-`	`y tampoco lo puedo ejecutar`
`23:33.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`que panel quidam- ? o_O`
`23:33.06`	`quidam-`	`del ibar`
`23:33.07`	`quidam-`	`:P`
`23:33.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`cuc si, estan mas bien preparados para testing`
`23:33.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`quidam- pues vuelvelo a incluir, lanza el entangle`
`23:34.00`	`quidam-`	`Thanatermesis pero es que no esta`
`23:34.19`	`quidam-`	`parece que no se hubiera instalado`
`23:34.21`	`quidam-`	`:(`
`23:34.54`	`cuc`	`quidam-, reinstalalo pues`
`23:35.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues upgradea tu conf de e17 y lo recuperaras (pero borraras tu conf de e17)`
`23:35.31`	`quidam-`	`weno es que tiene la misma configuracion que traia por defecto`
`23:35.35`	`quidam-`	`se borrara esa?`
`23:39.34`	`quidam-`	`Thanatermesis existe algun otro gestor de archivos similar a evidence? para e17?`
`23:40.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`no, se actualizara`
`23:40.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`volveras a tener la de por defecto`
`23:40.32`	`cuc`	`bueno, de parecido no tiene nada, pero yo utilizo xfe`
`23:40.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`quidam- si actualizas e17, ahora tiene un nuevo gestor de archivos (si ya esta en el repo), pero no tan bonito como evidence... esta en desarrollo, muy nuevo`
`23:49.30`	`quidam-`	`:P`
`23:49.33`	`quidam-`	`solucionado`
`23:49.41`	`quidam-`	`instale xfe y lo agrege al ibar`
`23:49.42`	`quidam-`	`xD`
`23:49.56`	`quidam-`	`y estoy actualizando el sistema`
`23:49.59`	`quidam-`	`:D`

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