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| 00:28.15 | dererk | Hi all! |
| 00:28.50 | quidam- | HOLA dererk |
| 00:29.08 | dererk | quidam-, :) |
| 00:31.11 | dererk | quidam-, Que cuentas? |
| 00:31.56 | quidam- | dererk, hoy fue la charla de elive |
| 00:31.59 | quidam- | :D |
| 00:32.29 | dererk | quidam-, Donde? :? |
| 00:33.13 | quidam- | aca en mi ciudad |
| 00:33.20 | quidam- | la que te comente hace dias |
| 00:33.22 | dererk | Y esa es....? |
| 00:33.27 | dererk | :) |
| 00:33.33 | quidam- | me fue super |
| 00:33.42 | quidam- | les mostre algunos videos de rastroman |
| 00:33.47 | quidam- | y el entorno enlight... |
| 00:33.52 | quidam- | y les encanto |
| 00:33.54 | quidam- | :D |
| 00:34.13 | dererk | Que o quien es rastroman? |
| 00:34.15 | dererk | O_o |
| 00:37.02 | quidam- | pues |
| 00:37.10 | quidam- | resulta que buscando informacion |
| 00:37.12 | quidam- | para la charla |
| 00:37.17 | quidam- | me consegui con la pagina de el |
| 00:37.29 | quidam- | creo que es uno de los desarrolladores de enlight... |
| 00:37.39 | quidam- | tiene algunos videos interesantes :D |
| 00:37.42 | dererk | Aja, y cual es? |
| 00:39.53 | quidam- | hmm no era rastro |
| 00:39.58 | quidam- | es rasterman :P |
| 00:40.00 | quidam- | xDDD |
| 00:40.11 | quidam- | http://www.rasterman.com/ |
| 00:40.24 | dererk | A ver. |
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| 01:05.13 | goldstein | hey hey |
| 01:05.57 | dererk | Hi! :) |
| 01:24.50 | felix | re |
| 01:26.09 | dererk | felix, gato |
| 01:27.10 | felix | cómo te va derek? |
| 01:28.03 | dererk | felix, Bien feli |
| 01:28.09 | dererk | :P |
| 01:28.41 | felix | dererk: en realidad debiste decir "felx" |
| 01:29.02 | dererk | felix, en realidad debiste decir " dererk " |
| 01:29.03 | dererk | :) |
| 01:29.22 | dererk | felix, Que se cuenta chango? |
| 01:29.32 | felix | nada, intentando estudiar un poco de dvorak |
| 01:29.45 | felix | asadito |
| 01:29.51 | felix | eso es fácil de escribir en dvorak |
| 01:30.06 | felix | (hago switch entre layouts porque todavía no sé escribir en dvorak, salvo "asadito" |
| 01:30.21 | dererk | Y como es "ashadito"? |
| 01:31.19 | felix | asadhito == añahgks (en base qwerty) |
| 01:31.33 | felix | hmmm no, me comí una letra (la h) |
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| 01:41.56 | dererk | felix, yyy? Cual es? O-o |
| 01:53.29 | goldstein | elpanel oficially rules:) |
| 01:53.56 | dererk | :D |
| 01:54.10 | dererk | Hi goldstein |
| 01:54.20 | dererk | goldstein, Which repo do you use? |
| 01:54.21 | goldstein | hola |
| 01:54.32 | goldstein | hum..dont know |
| 01:54.33 | goldstein | lol |
| 01:54.57 | goldstein | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.39 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:47.52 | Elive_user2 | hola |
| 02:48.49 | Elive_user2 | hola |
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| 02:49.49 | Elive_user2 | hello trick |
| 02:50.46 | trick | hi |
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| 03:16.13 | chris_ | nomed, are you up already? or still up? :) |
| 03:16.22 | chris_ | i am roxville, btw |
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| 06:23.49 | nomed | roxelive, morning |
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| 07:59.05 | cornelius[cz] | 'morning |
| 09:04.56 | Thanatermesis | 'yo morning |
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| 09:41.05 | Elive_user2 | dsahasjhasghdshakjlgfkajhgfhlka |
| 09:41.07 | Elive_user2 | khjksad\ |
| 09:41.10 | Elive_user2 | dsakhfuosd] |
| 09:41.10 | Elive_user2 | ds |
| 09:41.11 | Elive_user2 | dsfs |
| 09:41.11 | Elive_user2 | ds |
| 09:41.16 | Elive_user2 | fs |
| 09:41.19 | Elive_user2 | f |
| 09:41.24 | Elive_user2 | fsds |
| 09:41.25 | Elive_user2 | sd |
| 09:41.30 | Elive_user2 | dsa |
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| 09:42.20 | Thanatermesis | problems with the keyboard Elive_user2 ? |
| 09:43.04 | Thanatermesis | or posible a cat walking around your computer ? :) |
| 09:44.07 | Elive_user3 | Thanatermesis, remember me? yesterday I talked using elive under vmware and the messed screen |
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| 09:44.21 | Thanatermesis | yes Elive_user3 |
| 09:45.00 | Elive_user3 | it worked. now you can talke to my student. |
| 09:45.13 | Elive_user3 | they are crowded around me. |
| 09:45.51 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es crowed |
| 09:46.09 | Elive_user3 | we have about 50 students using elive right now in our lab |
| 09:46.27 | Thanatermesis | nice siwen :) |
| 09:47.37 | Thanatermesis | try to install elpanel, its released a "test version" yesterday (using the idefix repository, don't available now in the default repository) |
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| 09:47.44 | Thanatermesis | its the future panel of control of Elive ;) |
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| 09:48.25 | siwen | hello |
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| 09:51.12 | hah | hello |
| 09:51.34 | day | siwen, nihao |
| 09:52.05 | hah | NIHAO |
| 09:52.06 | hah | nihao |
| 09:52.33 | Thanatermesis | nihao ! chiao she phie lien :) |
| 09:52.46 | siwen | we are chinese |
| 09:53.18 | siwen | Thanatermesis, students are learning english and linux. it is their first time using irc |
| 09:53.20 | hah | yes |
| 09:53.34 | Thanatermesis | oh, ok |
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| 09:53.41 | Thanatermesis | hen hau ? |
| 09:53.47 | Thanatermesis | hen hau ma ? |
| 09:53.55 | siwen | Thanatermesis, so don't get mad with their newbie. I am the teacher right now. |
| 09:53.59 | hah | i am also chinese |
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| 09:54.26 | hah | i am your student |
| 09:54.26 | neveille | hello |
| 09:54.34 | siwen | but let siwen talk. 52 newbie students here. |
| 09:54.44 | lhj | hello everybody! |
| 09:54.48 | Thanatermesis | no problem siwen :) |
| 09:54.52 | hah | go out |
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| 09:55.04 | linshu | hello |
| 09:55.28 | aoxiang | hello.everyone |
| 09:55.45 | linshu | good afternoon |
| 09:55.56 | Thanatermesis | hello aoxiang linshu lhj hah neveille day |
| 09:56.04 | aoxiang | good afternoon |
| 09:56.05 | lhj | I am every glad to join here! |
| 09:56.19 | aoxiang | so am i |
| 09:56.19 | linshu | I am from China |
| 09:56.39 | aoxiang | i also come from china |
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| 09:57.12 | aoxiang | where you are now |
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| 09:57.51 | *** topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Need Help? http://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Help || Open your mind with elive-essence: "xmms http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/1035" || Check #e #e.fr #e.es Enlightenment channels || --== Elpanel ==-- released, enjoy it :) || Welcome China |
| 09:57.52 | cxg | Hello! |
| 09:58.06 | siwen | Thanatermesis, It's my first time to come here.Nice to see you!:) |
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| 09:58.33 | cxg | Nice to see you,too! |
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| 09:58.44 | neveille | siwen,nice to meet yuo! |
| 09:58.54 | ability | hello everybody |
| 09:59.19 | Thanatermesis | welcome siwen :) |
| 09:59.42 | aoxiang | is everybody here come from china |
| 09:59.42 | Thanatermesis | why chose Elive ? |
| 10:00.01 | Thanatermesis | yes aoxiang ... i look :) |
| 10:00.31 | ability | yes |
| 10:00.35 | cxg | my teacher teaches us how to use it!so we enter into this chat room |
| 10:00.40 | neveille | No reason,just love!:) |
| 10:01.00 | aoxiang | we are in the same classroom |
| 10:01.19 | ability | we are learning linux |
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| 10:01.34 | aoxiang | we can't chat in chinese |
| 10:01.39 | andrewluyunfei | am i in? |
| 10:01.44 | andrewluyunfei | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:01.56 | neveille | I think so. |
| 10:01.57 | cxg | We are all from China,the same university ,the same building ,and the same class! |
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| 10:02.09 | Thanatermesis | hehe, nice :) |
| 10:02.24 | aoxiang | very good |
| 10:02.30 | andrewluyunfei | and he is in my back |
| 10:02.30 | Thanatermesis | siwen , its Elive supported for chinese environment ? |
| 10:02.32 | aoxiang | very nice |
| 10:02.41 | aoxiang | no |
| 10:02.47 | siwen | Thanatermesis, In the past,I've never use elive.but after this class,I find that elive is wonderful |
| 10:03.01 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 10:03.12 | aoxiang | i have tried in internet |
| 10:03.24 | cxg | where are you from?Thanatermesis? |
| 10:03.29 | aoxiang | it not support chinese |
| 10:03.40 | andrewluyunfei | why? |
| 10:04.09 | aoxiang | I sorry,I don't know |
| 10:04.12 | andrewluyunfei | can you explain? |
| 10:04.13 | Thanatermesis | and the next version is more easy to use ;) (with a panel of control and a autolauncher) http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-browse_image.php?imageId=40 |
| 10:04.30 | Thanatermesis | cxg im from barcelona... but living in belgium |
| 10:04.32 | cxg | we should download a package which supports chinese! |
| 10:04.45 | andrewluyunfei | yes |
| 10:04.58 | neveille | Can we get them free? |
| 10:05.02 | Thanatermesis | cxg what is the size of this package ? you know ? |
| 10:05.08 | aoxiang | in the internet ,we can see picture ,but we can't see chinese |
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| 10:05.09 | andrewluyunfei | i couldn;t agree any moer |
| 10:05.19 | linshu | which place of china are you from ? |
| 10:05.29 | aoxiang | fujian |
| 10:05.35 | Thanatermesis | neveille of course ;) apt-get install package , or apt-cache search keyword for search any related package with your keywords |
| 10:05.36 | siwen | Thanatermesis, no.All of us are using English environment. |
| 10:05.55 | linshu | I am from xiamen |
| 10:05.59 | aoxiang | where are you come from |
| 10:06.01 | Thanatermesis | ok siwen ... simple curiosity, i don't know how to set or use in chinese |
| 10:06.09 | cxg | Sorry,I don't know.perhaps we can find it in the internet |
| 10:06.13 | andrewluyunfei | oh |
| 10:06.19 | day | time is limite |
| 10:06.21 | aoxiang | I from longyan |
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| 10:06.38 | aoxiang | yes ,time is limite |
| 10:06.43 | andrewluyunfei | maybe we can figure it out in the future |
| 10:06.45 | tanssuowang | hello |
| 10:06.57 | lhj | o! I am from chongqing ! |
| 10:07.00 | aoxiang | i hope so |
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| 10:07.10 | andrewluyunfei | i'm from beijing |
| 10:07.21 | day | like a chinese party |
| 10:07.28 | cxg | our class will be over,we have to leave now.glad to realize you,thanatermesis |
| 10:07.30 | dddddddddddd | fujian |
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| 10:07.43 | andrewluyunfei | Glad to meet you too |
| 10:07.44 | siwen | Thanatermesis, that's OK.we can just use English. |
| 10:07.50 | neveille | Is anyone from Shandong? |
| 10:08.03 | andrewluyunfei | see you later |
| 10:08.09 | dddddddddddd | over |
| 10:08.15 | Thanatermesis | ok cxg, welcome :) |
| 10:08.18 | day | bye everyone~ |
| 10:08.30 | day | class over |
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| 10:32.44 | manveru | btw, somebody knows why x-chat is in espaniol or portuguese by standard? |
| 10:35.43 | NooDLe591 | manveru, i have it in english by default |
| 10:36.32 | manveru | well, all my menus are in german, except for the server-menu and all messages that i receive from the server |
| 10:37.04 | manveru | i get all the time messages like 'dats se ha marchado ("Lost terminal")' |
| 10:38.10 | Thanatermesis | manveru its a little bug, solved for the next release or upgrading your xchat conf, (with elpanel) |
| 10:38.32 | manveru | ah, exactly - i wanted to try elpanel |
| 10:39.06 | Thanatermesis | use the idefix repository manveru |
| 10:39.16 | Thanatermesis | not is available in vobcopy repository now |
| 10:39.44 | manveru | only out of curiosity - is there something like yakuake for e? (a console with multiple tabs that gets shown on shortcut) |
| 10:40.44 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es only out of curiosity - is there something like yakuake for e? (a console with multiple tabs that gets shown on shortcut) |
| 10:41.32 | Thanatermesis | try "multi-aterm" |
| 10:42.01 | manveru | pretty good translator that is... |
| 10:44.05 | Thanatermesis | ;) |
| 10:44.33 | Thanatermesis | try elpanel, this upgrade all your configurations and solve some problems ;) |
| 10:44.52 | manveru | apt info idefix |
| 10:45.47 | manveru | hmm |
| 10:46.32 | Thanatermesis | apt repository |
| 10:46.49 | Thanatermesis | manveru: deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive elive main efl elive |
| 10:47.04 | Thanatermesis | apt idefix |
| 10:47.39 | Thanatermesis | apt idefix is deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive elive main efl Elive |
| 10:47.41 | apt | okay, Thanatermesis |
| 10:47.42 | Thanatermesis | apt idefix |
| 10:47.44 | apt | from memory, idefix is deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive elive main efl Elive |
| 10:47.49 | Thanatermesis | arg |
| 10:47.56 | Thanatermesis | apt no, idefix is deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive elive main efl Elive |
| 10:47.57 | apt | Thanatermesis: i already had it that way |
| 10:47.58 | Thanatermesis | shit |
| 10:48.07 | Thanatermesis | apt no, idefix is deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive elive main efl elive |
| 10:48.08 | apt | okay, Thanatermesis |
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| 10:59.14 | Thanatermesis | what version of elpanel has installed ? |
| 10:59.19 | Thanatermesis | dpkg -l | grep elpanel |
| 11:00.03 | manveru | 0.1elive3 |
| 11:00.10 | Thanatermesis | perfect :) |
| 11:00.18 | manveru | but it's a bit unsteady |
| 11:00.27 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es unsteady |
| 11:00.47 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, what is unsteady ? |
| 11:00.53 | manveru | i select an option and it switches back almost immediatley altough i didn't press a button or something |
| 11:01.12 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es i select an option and it switches back almost immediatley altough i didn't press a button or something |
| 11:01.50 | manveru | ok, i'll give you examples |
| 11:02.27 | manveru | for example the user-menu |
| 11:02.47 | manveru | i click on it... select the personal configuration |
| 11:02.58 | manveru | and it simply switches back to the main-screen |
| 11:03.35 | manveru | may i paste the stuff from the console here that it displays? |
| 11:03.41 | Thanatermesis | humm... |
| 11:04.11 | Thanatermesis | upgrade "elive-skel" package |
| 11:04.18 | manveru | aye |
| 11:04.43 | Thanatermesis | needs to have upgraded versions ;) |
| 11:04.51 | Thanatermesis | apt-get install elive* ;) |
| 11:05.23 | manveru | elive-kernel-compile? :) |
| 11:05.29 | Thanatermesis | euh.. no |
| 11:05.31 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 11:05.42 | Thanatermesis | elive-skel and... |
| 11:05.50 | Thanatermesis | Depends: sox, gksu, zenity, datetimeconf, keybconf, langconf, gparted, synaptic, rxvt-unicode, erme, gtk-chtheme, engage-manager, gnome-alsamixer, xbase-clients, alsa-utils, gnome-cups-manager, bum, etherconf, synaptic, gparted, elive-scripts |
| 11:05.58 | Thanatermesis | this is the dependencies, upgrade this packages |
| 11:07.44 | manveru | ok... installing... |
| 11:07.59 | manveru | i love beta-testing ^^ |
| 11:09.03 | Thanatermesis | hehe, you are first to test things ;) |
| 11:09.20 | manveru | why is that? |
| 11:09.36 | manveru | i thought elive was quite popular |
| 11:09.54 | manveru | ok, upgrade done |
| 11:10.02 | Thanatermesis | yes, but the persons don't know elpanel for example ;) |
| 11:10.05 | Thanatermesis | and not are finished... |
| 11:10.15 | Thanatermesis | also... the ppl looks after elpanel in the 0.4 ;) |
| 11:10.26 | manveru | hmm |
| 11:10.30 | manveru | wait a second |
| 11:10.36 | manveru | i could do a full upgrade for the system |
| 11:10.53 | Thanatermesis | if you like... but not need more for this thinks |
| 11:10.58 | Thanatermesis | but is better... yes |
| 11:11.04 | manveru | and install a k7-kernel |
| 11:11.07 | Thanatermesis | if you upgrade all users confs, is good also :) |
| 11:11.14 | Thanatermesis | (but you delete your personal configurations) |
| 11:11.30 | Thanatermesis | install a 2.6.12 from debian, its good |
| 11:11.34 | Thanatermesis | oh no |
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| 11:11.51 | Thanatermesis | Elive can't install good the kernels in 0.3 |
| 11:12.13 | manveru | ? |
| 11:12.17 | Thanatermesis | you need to modify the /vmlinuz and initrd... for menu.lst of grub search good |
| 11:12.24 | Thanatermesis | if you know how to make this,.. its ok |
| 11:12.40 | Thanatermesis | address and symlinks of vmlinuz |
| 11:12.53 | manveru | i see |
| 11:12.54 | Thanatermesis | looking how to are called from menu.lst of grub |
| 11:12.57 | Thanatermesis | ok then :) |
| 11:13.16 | manveru | it's been a long time since i installed a kernel that way... |
| 11:14.14 | manveru | so i need to link the vmlinuz from boot to / ? |
| 11:14.50 | manveru | no from /boot/vmlinuz-VERSION to /boot/vmlinuz |
| 11:15.24 | manveru | but i got no idea what i have to do with initrd |
| 11:15.48 | Thanatermesis | link of you like |
| 11:16.00 | Thanatermesis | only need to are good addressed in menu.lst of grub |
| 11:16.07 | Thanatermesis | for search and found it correctly :) |
| 11:17.12 | manveru | since i'm here for testing i just give it a try :) |
| 11:20.23 | Thanatermesis | i need to fix this "bug" for the next release... and posible i use a default debian kernel for the installed system |
| 11:21.38 | manveru | would be a good idea... |
| 11:22.14 | manveru | why are you based on morphix btw? - the last time i used it for games only... |
| 11:22.52 | Thanatermesis | because morphix is the best imho :) |
| 11:24.45 | manveru | what is the main-advantage to knoppix? |
| 11:24.51 | Thanatermesis | modular |
| 11:25.24 | manveru | do you know about grml? |
| 11:26.16 | manveru | i don't think elive will ever switch from morphix - but grml is worth a look :) |
| 11:27.42 | manveru | http://www.grml.org |
| 11:30.10 | Thanatermesis | i don't like to base more in knoppix :) |
| 11:30.15 | Thanatermesis | Elive 0.1 is based on morphix |
| 11:30.30 | Thanatermesis | with morphix for example, has the RW feature in the liveCD mode |
| 11:30.59 | Thanatermesis | and the system (elive), is totally clean and independent to the liveCD system |
| 11:31.15 | Thanatermesis | because this i don't like to use knoppix |
| 11:31.32 | Thanatermesis | if use the liveCD and Elive system in one... the system of you have after installed is ugly |
| 11:52.49 | manveru | well, upgrade done |
| 11:53.14 | manveru | i'll reboot tonight, have no urgent need for a new kernel :) |
| 11:53.24 | manveru | something i could try now? |
| 11:53.59 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 11:54.33 | Thanatermesis | try to upgrade the xchat configuration.. or another things of you like |
| 11:58.39 | manveru | btw - would be nice to have correct acpi for laptops |
| 11:58.58 | Thanatermesis | yes, some laptops have acpi or apm... |
| 11:59.46 | manveru | not some... all of them :) |
| 11:59.49 | Thanatermesis | i don't how to set a default kernel of debian for works in one or another mode |
| 12:00.27 | manveru | maybe you could ask devs of other livecds |
| 12:00.54 | manveru | there is stuff for autodedection i am sure |
| 12:01.20 | Thanatermesis | not really, my laptop works with acpi or apm... but with acpi don't shutdown |
| 12:01.56 | Thanatermesis | also is a problem for the installed system, no only for the liveCD mode |
| 12:02.36 | manveru | however - i have to install and run athcool for getting my system slower |
| 12:02.49 | manveru | i hate hearing the vent all the time |
| 12:03.01 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 12:03.17 | Thanatermesis | athcool... slow your processor speed with "stills" ? |
| 12:03.44 | Thanatermesis | apt athcool |
| 12:05.22 | manveru | hmm, slow on that |
| 12:05.54 | manveru | does he run a update everytime you ask? |
| 12:06.11 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es does he run a update everytime you ask? |
| 12:06.33 | Thanatermesis | is better to upgrade your system, yes, all bugs/fixations is solved from packages |
| 12:07.44 | manveru | uhm i was talking about apt |
| 12:09.38 | Thanatermesis | apt memorizes all of you like to learn to he... |
| 12:09.41 | manveru | apt x en es the database apt makes the queries from when you ask it something - is it running a kind of 'apt-get update' everytime? |
| 12:09.46 | Thanatermesis | and have a big database ;) |
| 12:09.48 | Thanatermesis | apt jump ! |
| 12:09.49 | apt | ACTION scrambles up the nearest tree, screams, then leaps feet first on top of ! |
| 12:10.30 | Thanatermesis | no, only learn if you speak FOR learn |
| 12:10.36 | Thanatermesis | for he learn* |
| 12:10.47 | manveru | ok |
| 12:10.47 | Thanatermesis | apt dance with manveru |
| 12:10.54 | Thanatermesis | apt dance |
| 12:10.56 | apt | ACTION does a disco dance. |
| 12:11.03 | Thanatermesis | apt sing |
| 12:11.04 | apt | "Night fever, night fever. You know how to do it!" |
| 12:11.19 | Thanatermesis | apt bill gates |
| 12:11.20 | apt | hmm... bill gates is lord of Darkness |
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| 12:15.06 | manveru | hmm |
| 12:15.10 | manveru | i'm sure something should be different now |
| 12:15.19 | Thanatermesis | yes, its diferent |
| 12:15.24 | Thanatermesis | and im... green ? :) |
| 12:15.31 | manveru | lol |
| 12:15.38 | manveru | not exactly |
| 12:15.41 | Thanatermesis | its a new mode of xchat... |
| 12:15.51 | Thanatermesis | i don't like really but... i can't posible to change this |
| 12:16.03 | manveru | you are blue like always |
| 12:16.05 | Thanatermesis | some person's like's better... is more "readable" |
| 12:16.56 | manveru | with such a beatuiful terminal i might as well switch back to irssi |
| 12:17.54 | Thanatermesis | beautifull terminal ? the terminal is "only" terminal... |
| 12:17.58 | Thanatermesis | i don't like to have menus.. :S |
| 12:18.12 | manveru | that's the beauty of it ^^ |
| 12:18.36 | manveru | it's absolutly clean |
| 12:18.55 | manveru | but how do i configure it? |
| 12:20.38 | manveru | however - let's restart e16 for the sake of elive-skel |
| 12:20.39 | Thanatermesis | configure what ? the terminals ? |
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| 12:26.43 | manveru | back in e17 now |
| 12:26.47 | manveru | i just can't let go of the beauty of it :) |
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| 13:10.17 | Thanatermesis | apt build dererk |
| 13:10.36 | Thanatermesis | apt are you tired today ? |
| 13:10.39 | dererk | No package 'dererk' found. |
| 13:10.39 | dererk | xD |
| 13:10.46 | Thanatermesis | apt you are tired today ? |
| 13:10.49 | apt | I think you lost me on that one, Thanatermesis |
| 13:10.55 | Thanatermesis | apt you are tired ? |
| 13:10.58 | apt | Thanatermesis: what are you talking about? |
| 13:11.08 | Thanatermesis | apt WAKE UP !!!!!!!!!!! |
| 13:11.09 | apt | UP !!!!!!!!!!!: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 13:11.13 | dererk | apt, build dererk |
| 13:11.16 | dererk | xD |
| 13:11.19 | Thanatermesis | apt WAKE UP UP UP UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!11 |
| 13:11.20 | apt | UP UP UP UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!11: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 13:11.20 | dererk | apt, build Thanatermesis |
| 13:11.32 | dererk | :P |
| 13:11.37 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 13:11.39 | Thanatermesis | apt wake dererk |
| 13:11.41 | apt | dererk: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 13:11.49 | Thanatermesis | GOOD MORNING dererk !!!!!!!! |
| 13:11.53 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Que cuentas thana? :) |
| 13:12.02 | Thanatermesis | look the topic ;) |
| 13:12.35 | dererk | :) |
| 13:12.40 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Lo vi ayer :D |
| 13:12.48 | Thanatermesis | viste esta version de elpanel ? |
| 13:12.56 | Thanatermesis | estoy metiendo todo tipo de cosas para configurar ;) |
| 13:13.07 | dererk | No aun pero si estoy al tanto |
| 13:13.16 | dererk | Oye Thanatermesis, por que china? |
| 13:13.29 | Thanatermesis | antes a venido una universidad de china al canal |
| 13:13.30 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 13:13.49 | dererk | huyyy, ahi si que no te puedo ayudar con las traducciones! xD |
| 13:14.11 | Thanatermesis | estudiaban ingles y era su primer contacto con un IRC |
| 13:14.12 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 13:14.20 | dererk | xDDD |
| 13:14.26 | dererk | Eso si es newbie xD |
| 13:14.31 | dererk | Primer todo |
| 13:14.32 | dererk | xD |
| 13:14.43 | Thanatermesis | habia uno que soltó "estoy aqui?" |
| 13:14.43 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 13:14.52 | dererk | xDDDDD |
| 13:15.07 | dererk | Responderias tu un "Si, solo tu!" |
| 13:15.08 | dererk | xDDD |
| 13:15.25 | Thanatermesis | que va, no dije nada.. |
| 13:15.34 | Thanatermesis | bueno, elpanel ya tiene ahora un cambiador de themes para entrance :) |
| 13:15.46 | dererk | :0 |
| 13:15.48 | Thanatermesis | y luego tengo que poner un "user manager's" |
| 13:16.06 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Y como lo has programado? |
| 13:16.11 | dererk | Alguien te ha ayudado? |
| 13:16.20 | Thanatermesis | ahora mismo elpanel no esta mas nuevo que el anuncio del topic... solo en mi maquina xD |
| 13:16.30 | Thanatermesis | no, yo solito :) |
| 13:16.53 | dererk | Se ELIMINARÃN automáticamente los siguientes paquetes: |
| 13:16.54 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.54 | dererk | Se ELIMINARÃN los siguientes paquetes: |
| 13:16.54 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.54 | dererk | Se actualizarán los siguientes paquetes: |
| 13:16.54 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.56 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.58 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:17.06 | dererk | xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 13:17.12 | Thanatermesis | claro, dale ;) |
| 13:17.22 | Thanatermesis | estas con el repo de idefix, no ? |
| 13:17.25 | dererk | Pero, lo eliminara? O_o |
| 13:17.26 | dererk | Si |
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| 13:17.44 | Thanatermesis | eso parece... que lo elimina xD |
| 13:17.46 | Thanatermesis | haz solo: |
| 13:17.49 | Thanatermesis | apt-get install elpanel |
| 13:17.52 | dererk | xD |
| 13:17.56 | Thanatermesis | a ver que dice |
| 13:17.59 | dererk | no te llevas con aptitude ? |
| 13:18.00 | dererk | xD |
| 13:18.16 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.16 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.16 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.18 | dererk | xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 13:18.29 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 13:18.36 | Thanatermesis | tu instalacion cada dia me sorprende mas... |
| 13:18.40 | dererk | xDDDD |
| 13:18.44 | Thanatermesis | muestrame tu sources.list en www.pastebin.com |
| 13:20.10 | dererk | Thanatermesis, http://pastebin.com/437742 |
| 13:20.27 | Thanatermesis | apt-cache policy gnome-cups-manager |
| 13:20.32 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.47 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.49 | dererk | xD |
| 13:20.58 | Thanatermesis | muy bien... |
| 13:21.02 | Thanatermesis | que haces sin repos de debian ? xD |
| 13:21.12 | dererk | Pues, yo? xD |
| 13:21.22 | Thanatermesis | necesitas los repos de debian hombre xD |
| 13:21.33 | Thanatermesis | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 13:22.09 | dererk | Si, es que... naaaa |
| 13:22.09 | dererk | xD |
| 13:22.32 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 13:22.50 | dererk | Thanatermesis, no me sigas la corriente, toy medio loco :P |
| 13:23.43 | dererk | oye Thanatermesis, sabes que se me ocurrio, una lista estilo "Elive News", que te parece? |
| 13:23.44 | dererk | :P |
| 13:23.59 | dererk | En realidad no lista, sino servidor de noticias :) |
| 13:24.51 | Thanatermesis | lanza "erss -c elive" ;) |
| 13:25.31 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Luego de haber actulizado todo? |
| 13:25.52 | Thanatermesis | ahora si quieres ;) |
| 13:26.13 | dererk | :0 |
| 13:27.07 | dererk | Thanatermesis, :0 |
| 13:27.23 | manveru | not one crash in about an hour |
| 13:27.54 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Quieres que te diga algo thana? |
| 13:28.19 | Thanatermesis | dime algo dererk |
| 13:28.27 | dererk | algo Thanatermesis |
| 13:28.28 | dererk | xD |
| 13:28.37 | Thanatermesis | manveru yes, is random... in a compilation is posible good and another is posible more unstable... |
| 13:29.01 | manveru | from cd it was crashing all 3 minutes :) |
| 13:29.17 | manveru | and now i can switch backgrounds/styles everything and nothing happens |
| 13:29.25 | manveru | (means nothing crashes) |
| 13:29.26 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Naaa, en verdad, creo que elive esta cada vez mas cerca de ser la distro mas user-friendly y de calidad grafica, etc. ?=¬) |
| 13:29.33 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Quiero ayudar mas :D |
| 13:30.06 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 13:30.20 | dererk | Thanatermesis, nono, lo digo en verdad! |
| 13:30.48 | dererk | Esto de ElPanel esta de lujo y es RE accesible para alguien que no sabe ni que es linux. |
| 13:31.15 | dererk | Habra que trabajar en los montadores, y ya veo a Elive cerca de las pcs de todos :D |
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| 13:31.35 | dererk | Thanatermesis, ya regreso |
| 13:31.55 | Thanatermesis | te gusta elpanel dererk ? :) |
| 13:32.04 | Thanatermesis | es facil de usar ? :) |
| 13:32.32 | manveru | a marriage of elpanel with yast would be sweet :) |
| 13:32.41 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 13:45.07 | manveru | does E have a shortcut for closing windows? |
| 13:45.19 | manveru | like ctrl+q or alt+f4 |
| 13:46.41 | dererk | Thanatermesis, CLARO QUE ME GUSTA! |
| 13:46.48 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Es genial |
| 13:46.58 | dererk | Thanatermesis, por mucho mejor que la version anterior |
| 13:47.29 | manveru | apt x es en claro que me gusta |
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| 13:47.46 | Thanatermesis | manveru control-alt-x |
| 13:47.57 | manveru | when i stay longer here i will end up learning espaniol :) |
| 13:48.00 | dererk | manveru, We both speak english ;) |
| 13:48.05 | Thanatermesis | dererk la version anterior... es la version para el modo liveCD ;) |
| 13:48.14 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Ah, entiendo. |
| 13:52.35 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Por si no conocias Etch :) |
| 13:53.00 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 13:54.29 | Thanatermesis | y un configurador de screensaver :) |
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| 15:02.41 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2 |
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| 15:12.16 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2 |
| 15:26.01 | dererk | Nas |
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| 15:48.41 | dererk | Thanatermesis, En que estabamos? |
| 15:48.43 | dererk | :-\ |
| 15:49.13 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Ah, un par de cosas a modo de comentario/reporte/solicitud... estas? |
| 15:49.28 | Thanatermesis | si |
| 15:51.07 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Bueno, primero el erss tira un pequeño error http://pastebin.com/437818 |
| 15:52.26 | Thanatermesis | estas en e17 |
| 15:52.40 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Otra cosa que me intriga es: Es posible agregar alguna aplicacion a Entangle/Ibar que no este por defecto? |
| 15:52.53 | dererk | Thanatermesis, si, estoy en e17 |
| 15:53.04 | Thanatermesis | lo que no sé es porque se desconecta |
| 15:53.15 | Thanatermesis | erss no esta mas desarrollado, no hace gran cosa |
| 15:53.45 | Thanatermesis | claro que se puede, tienes que crear un icono, leete la doc de www.get-e.org |
| 15:54.22 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Me refiero a aplicaciones como Thunderbird, que no estan en el configurador |
| 15:55.24 | Thanatermesis | claro que se puede, tienes que crear un icono, leete la doc de www.get-e.org |
| 15:55.46 | dererk | xD |
| 15:55.59 | dererk | Ya existe el icono, es provisto por Mozilla. |
| 15:56.08 | Thanatermesis | ... |
| 15:56.09 | dererk | Tu dices que cree un icono apto para E17 ? |
| 15:56.11 | Thanatermesis | un fichero eap |
| 15:56.13 | Thanatermesis | un icono de e17 |
| 15:56.15 | Thanatermesis | claro que se puede, tienes que crear un icono, leete la doc de www.get-e.org |
| 15:56.22 | Thanatermesis | si |
| 15:56.32 | dererk | Entiendo. |
| 15:58.19 | dererk | Bueno, sigo con las cosas tontas que se me ocurren, que tal un sector de Reporte de Bugs? |
| 15:58.40 | dererk | Algo sencillo, no como buddybug o eso que saca mucho tiempo |
| 16:00.02 | dererk | Hacer algo sencillo que sea un click y descripcion del bug |
| 16:00.37 | dererk | Cosa que el usuario si se encuentra con el un posible bug (aunque no lo sea) haga un click y reporte el bug asi nomas, rapido y sencillo... |
| 16:00.47 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Que te parece? |
| 16:01.04 | Thanatermesis | bien.. que sugieres ? |
| 16:01.13 | Thanatermesis | suena bien... pero cual es "tu sistema" ? |
| 16:01.55 | dererk | Todos los lugares/aplicativos que vi como buddybug o como se llame es un proceso que te lleva 15' seas quien seas, te terminas desanimando y te vas... |
| 16:02.14 | Thanatermesis | ya |
| 16:02.17 | Thanatermesis | pero cual es tu metodo ? |
| 16:02.51 | dererk | Algo que haga una consulta via pygtk a un servidor sql y suba el problema |
| 16:02.53 | dererk | Asi nada mas |
| 16:02.59 | dererk | Bien rapido |
| 16:03.41 | dererk | Es lo mas simple y practico que se me ocurre... |
| 16:04.01 | Thanatermesis | eso que dices suena un poco complicado... |
| 16:04.09 | Thanatermesis | o mas bien que tienes ganas de programar =) |
| 16:04.12 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 16:04.32 | dererk | En todo caso, una seleccion por default de este metodo, y si no posees conexion permanente, que se quede en un tipo de cola, y luego la subas via interfaz web |
| 16:04.44 | Thanatermesis | para reportar un bug se necesita internet... porque no entrar en el foro pues ? |
| 16:04.46 | dererk | :0 |
| 16:04.49 | dererk | :( |
| 16:05.04 | dererk | Cual foro? |
| 16:05.09 | Thanatermesis | el foro de Elive |
| 16:05.35 | dererk | Por que asi estas obligando al usuario (puede ser un usuario que no conoce nada de na) a usar algo que puede no conocer |
| 16:05.41 | dererk | De la otra forma seria algo como |
| 16:05.59 | Thanatermesis | un correo de maquina local se queda en cola... |
| 16:06.12 | dererk | ventanita, nick (opcional) descripcion (requerido) no poseo conexion (opcional) enviar (boton) |
| 16:06.14 | dererk | Nada mas |
| 16:06.20 | Thanatermesis | se podria hacer que se mandara un correo desde un script y que se mandara cuando tuviera conexion |
| 16:06.26 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Por eso dije que no sea por mail |
| 16:06.34 | dererk | No dije en ningun momento que sea por mail |
| 16:06.48 | Thanatermesis | no que mandes un mail... sino usando la via mail ;) |
| 16:07.10 | Thanatermesis | te saldria una ventanita preguntadote el texto/bug que quieres reportar, le das a aceptar y eso es todo |
| 16:07.17 | Thanatermesis | un email seria mandado desde la linea de comandos |
| 16:08.09 | dererk | Lo veo mas complicado |
| 16:08.12 | dererk | :( |
| 16:08.22 | Thanatermesis | donde lo ves complicado ? |
| 16:08.24 | Thanatermesis | para el usuario ? |
| 16:08.33 | Thanatermesis | si un mensaje de email se queda en cola... donde esta el problema ? |
| 16:08.53 | Thanatermesis | el sistema es capaz de mandar el email sin ningun tipo de configuracion ni nada ? no importa de donde venga.. solo que se reciba |
| 16:09.51 | dererk | Pues, la consola les da panic user a algunos |
| 16:10.12 | dererk | Una simple ventanita que por atras envie los datos via correo no te gusta Thanatermesis? |
| 16:10.20 | Thanatermesis | panic ? |
| 16:10.34 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 16:10.38 | dererk | Thanatermesis, las consolas no son para todos... |
| 16:10.43 | Thanatermesis | y que es lo que te estoy diciendo dererk ? |
| 16:10.56 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Algo de consola |
| 16:11.02 | dererk | Y eso a algunos les da panico |
| 16:11.15 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> te saldria una ventanita preguntadote el texto/bug que quieres reportar, le das a aceptar y eso es todo |
| 16:11.15 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> un email seria mandado desde la linea de comandos |
| 16:11.38 | dererk | Ah, perdon, entendi que todo el proceso era desde consola... :-S |
| 16:11.42 | Thanatermesis | s/comandos/script |
| 16:11.57 | Thanatermesis | eso es sencillo de hacer |
| 16:12.00 | Thanatermesis | la pregunta es |
| 16:12.11 | Thanatermesis | puede una maquina mandar un email sin estar configurada ? |
| 16:12.55 | dererk | Supongo que no se precisara el servidor de correo configurado, sino una mini aplicacion |
| 16:13.12 | dererk | Que tenga lo necesario para enviarlo |
| 16:13.19 | Thanatermesis | que se necesita ? |
| 16:13.21 | dererk | Como "correo anonimo" |
| 16:13.29 | Thanatermesis | no basta con decir "mandar a tal dominio/mail" ? |
| 16:13.55 | dererk | Ummm, a ver... |
| 16:14.04 | dererk | Voy a probar con mi mta, no lo toque aun |
| 16:14.10 | dererk | Thanatermesis, espera unos minutos |
| 16:15.46 | Thanatermesis | ok |
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| 16:24.10 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Bueno, asi como esta, no |
| 16:25.03 | Thanatermesis | dererk habria otra forma |
| 16:25.12 | dererk | Claro que la habria Thanatermesis |
| 16:25.17 | Thanatermesis | usando un servicio de esos que ofrecen hosting |
| 16:25.24 | dererk | Yo solo estaba probando para hacerlo por medio del MTA |
| 16:25.39 | Thanatermesis | si consigues enviar un fichero por via ftp desde un script, se podria hacer |
| 16:25.39 | dererk | <dererk> Como "correo anonimo" |
| 16:25.57 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Es mas o menos eso lo que dije. |
| 16:26.14 | Thanatermesis | yo es que de bases de datos de sql no tengo ni idea |
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| 16:26.53 | dererk | Thanatermesis, No es mala idea (aunque yo tampoco la tengo) pero me parece mas confiable que el correo, por si cae por ahi... nada mas |
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| 16:27.22 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Estoy seguro que debe de existir alguna mini aplicacion que te permita enviar correo sin tener que configurar nada mas |
| 16:27.26 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Despues de todo |
| 16:27.45 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Lo que hace el mta es usar telnet al puerto del servidor de correo |
| 16:29.31 | Thanatermesis | es que por eso te lo digo, yo de bases de datos no tengo ni idea, y para empezar a complicarme la vida con eso, prefiero hacer un icono que te abra el firefox en la pagina del foro y se acaba antes... |
| 16:30.02 | dererk | Ummm, lo del foro, sin desestimarte Thanatermesis, me parece una muy mala idea |
| 16:30.50 | Thanatermesis | no te digo que no pero... recomiendame/haz algo mejor ;) |
| 16:30.58 | Thanatermesis | yo no sabria, es lo unico que te digo |
| 16:31.07 | Thanatermesis | lo que sabria hacer es eso... lo del foro |
| 16:31.33 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Ok, olvida lo de sql, te interesa la idea de la ventanita que envie el correo (como sea) por detras? |
| 16:31.47 | Thanatermesis | si, el sistema de la ventanita no es un problema |
| 16:31.56 | Thanatermesis | el problema es enviar x-texto x-fichero a un sitio |
| 16:32.40 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Consultare por ahi a ver si alguien conoce algo similar, vale? |
| 16:33.46 | Thanatermesis | oks |
| 16:33.54 | dererk | ?=¬) |
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| 17:58.25 | Elive_user2 | hi |
| 17:58.49 | scrooch | hi |
| 17:58.55 | scrooch | im so relieved! |
| 17:59.04 | dererk | Hi. |
| 17:59.04 | scrooch | Wanna play some old dos games |
| 17:59.20 | scrooch | was in trouble... needing to re partition for dos |
| 17:59.28 | scrooch | needing boot floppies and all |
| 17:59.36 | scrooch | and now i see 'emulation --> dosbox' :D |
| 17:59.45 | scrooch | that's just so great |
| 18:00.01 | scrooch | i hope it will work well |
| 18:00.35 | Mutacion | :) |
| 18:00.43 | Mutacion | prince of persia? lol xD |
| 18:00.56 | Mutacion | maybe doom.. maybe eretic :P |
| 18:02.23 | scrooch | lol |
| 18:02.33 | scrooch | im starting with carmageddon |
| 18:02.38 | scrooch | and then i'd like to try blood 2 |
| 18:02.45 | scrooch | never played blood2 in my life |
| 18:02.51 | scrooch | noticed it has network options as well |
| 18:02.58 | scrooch | not sure if it's directx btw |
| 18:03.08 | scrooch | guess that wont work in dosbox, but perhaps in wine |
| 18:03.20 | dererk | Hi Mutacion ! |
| 18:04.42 | scrooch | heya dererk :) |
| 18:05.36 | dererk | ?=¬) |
| 18:05.58 | dererk | ( ?=¬)™ ) |
| 18:06.13 | scrooch | eh |
| 18:06.17 | scrooch | bye dererk !! |
| 18:06.22 | scrooch | ; ) |
| 18:06.31 | dererk | scrooch, cya! |
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| 18:42.35 | scrooch | how is the loop module called, please? |
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| 19:21.35 | manveru | e17 is far too stable to be real... |
| 19:21.48 | manveru | it's running all the day already |
| 19:26.38 | Mutacion | :) |
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| 19:48.26 | Elive_user2 | hello |
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| 19:59.08 | _H_ | thanatermesis? |
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| 20:59.09 | Elive_user2 | Buenas !! |
| 21:01.46 | dererk | Hi Elive_user2 |
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| 21:10.53 | Hendrick | re all |
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| 21:11.36 | Hendrick | are there any free alternatives to vmware? |
| 21:14.33 | Hendrick | hmm hdd problems Thanatermesis? |
| 21:22.30 | Thanatermesis | yes Hendrick ... but is solved :) |
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| 21:23.32 | Hendrick | as I see the file repository is not yet... |
| 21:24.10 | Thanatermesis | file repository ? |
| 21:25.13 | Hendrick | BTW if you put also an IBAN account number on the page then maybe I also will send some... But I don't like the idea that at such small transfers paypal gets that lot money |
| 21:25.19 | Hendrick | apt-get... |
| 21:25.28 | Hendrick | vobcopy.org |
| 21:30.23 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, its secure the iban and bic show in a internet page ? |
| 21:30.49 | Hendrick | I meant the international bank account number |
| 21:30.52 | Thanatermesis | if you are trying to install the actual version of elpanel (much more features), not is in the repository of vobcopy... you need to use the idefix repository (replace) |
| 21:31.01 | Thanatermesis | deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive elive main efl elive |
| 21:31.05 | Thanatermesis | this is the idefix repository |
| 21:31.28 | Hendrick | so that you can easiy make a credit transfer from a bank, without having to pay half of it to paypal.. - at small numbers... |
| 21:32.03 | Thanatermesis | yes... mmh, ok, i add the IBAN and BIC numbers in the page |
| 21:32.32 | Hendrick | no I was just making an apt-get update and it couldn't download the filelist from vobcopy |
| 21:32.46 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, use the "paypal" link for another page with the iban and BIC numbers.. or paypal selection is a good idea ? im not sure if use the paypal link is a good idea... |
| 21:33.15 | Hendrick | I think that it will be better for you... you receive more from us, who are on a lower budget :) |
| 21:33.42 | Hendrick | use the kill paypal icon :) |
| 21:35.38 | Thanatermesis | kill paypal icon ? hehe, what is it ? |
| 21:36.33 | Hendrick | http://paypalsucks.com/ :) |
| 21:36.54 | Thanatermesis | hehe, yes, i know |
| 21:37.08 | Thanatermesis | aparently paypal not is the better thing... but very persons use it |
| 21:37.48 | Thanatermesis | ok, i try to make a icon called "support elive. direct bank transfer" |
| 21:37.50 | Hendrick | I know... but why use paypal instead of standard bank money transfer? |
| 21:38.02 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh, "direct bank transfer"... this looks good ? :/ |
| 21:38.42 | Thanatermesis | only because is "more used" paypal... very persons use it |
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| 21:39.14 | Hendrick | looks good |
| 21:39.28 | Hendrick | or bank money transfer, or remittance... |
| 21:40.40 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, this words remembers me to "put your number of bank for transfer from the webpage" |
| 21:41.00 | Hendrick | remittance data? |
| 21:41.08 | Thanatermesis | "Support Elive. Secure Transfer" ? |
| 21:41.15 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es remittance |
| 21:41.25 | Hendrick | I would like to use my own online bank |
| 21:41.33 | Hendrick | and put your account number there :) |
| 21:41.39 | Hendrick | this is the safest :) |
| 21:41.49 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 21:41.51 | Hendrick | and you get the most percenrtage this way :) |
| 21:42.04 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, what think about "Elive donations" ? :) |
| 21:42.11 | Hendrick | ok :) |
| 21:42.22 | Thanatermesis | then, after click, you have another page, with the numbers of bank and the paypal account :) |
| 21:42.31 | Hendrick | or simply elive bank account |
| 21:42.53 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh, yes, this is "good understandable" words :) |
| 21:42.54 | Hendrick | because it shall only contain the bank acc number and the account holder's name |
| 21:43.01 | Thanatermesis | simple and direct :) |
| 21:43.06 | Hendrick | :) |
| 21:43.21 | Hendrick | make it as simple as possible :) |
| 21:43.33 | Thanatermesis | i need a icon or... mmmh.. |
| 21:44.01 | Hendrick | and of course you don't give out your acc number with paypal - of course I don't know why this is good... |
| 21:44.25 | Hendrick | simply a nice arrow and the text :) |
| 21:44.37 | Hendrick | that it is a transfer :) |
| 21:46.21 | Thanatermesis | i don't know why paypal is good.. yes... but is more "used" for the ppl... and "fast and easy" to make a donation |
| 21:46.47 | Thanatermesis | if you need to go to the bank tomorrow for this... posible tomorrow you are tired... or not remember... paypal is instantanealy |
| 21:47.19 | Hendrick | nowadays I think online banking is no news... |
| 21:48.16 | dats | hola |
| 21:48.48 | Thanatermesis | yep |
| 21:48.56 | Thanatermesis | ok, let me try a icon for this... |
| 21:50.15 | Hendrick | in germany it is even cheaer to maintain an online banking account than a standard one - they don't have to keep that many workers in the bank |
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| 21:50.27 | Hendrick | but here it is more epensive :) |
| 21:50.33 | Hendrick | hungarian banks suck :) |
| 21:59.12 | Thanatermesis | not is easy to paint a icon with pixel to pixel... :S |
| 22:02.19 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/tmp/account.gif Hendrick |
| 22:02.39 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, not very readable.. |
| 22:02.50 | Hendrick | not nice |
| 22:02.59 | Hendrick | you shouldn't pixelize it |
| 22:03.09 | Hendrick | make it in big and then downsize |
| 22:03.19 | Hendrick | of course with the correct aspect |
| 22:03.25 | Hendrick | then it will be nice |
| 22:03.52 | Hendrick | elive account is ok I think |
| 22:04.03 | Hendrick | the BANK is not a good one |
| 22:06.00 | Thanatermesis | "Elive account" is understandandable ? no more words ? |
| 22:08.22 | Hendrick | elive bank acc sshoul be the word order.. |
| 22:08.49 | Hendrick | but it is no problem I think the bank shall be emphasized.. |
| 22:09.18 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 22:09.52 | Hendrick | everyone is a bad pixel designer :) you shouldn't work that way :) |
| 22:10.56 | Hendrick | and maybe you should make clear that bank transfer is the preferred method of donation because of lower costs |
| 22:11.17 | Hendrick | it is better for you, the same for us |
| 22:12.03 | Hendrick | if we have the opportunity... |
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| 22:18.58 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/tmp/account.gif Hendrick |
| 22:21.24 | Hendrick | just a minute |
| 22:23.38 | Thanatermesis | another idea... change "paypal" words for "donate" words.. then, a page with the 2 options :) |
| 22:27.07 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/tmp/account2.gif better Hendrick ? :) |
| 22:32.59 | Thanatermesis | don't receive |
| 22:34.42 | Thanatermesis | what do you think about this Hendrick ? (reload) http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/tmp/account2.gif |
| 22:35.20 | Hendrick | http://militarypapers.hu/staff/bank.gif |
| 22:35.27 | Hendrick | the latter is better |
| 22:35.43 | Hendrick | I've also done one but neither do I like it :) |
| 22:36.39 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 22:36.49 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, but "donate" is understandable ? |
| 22:37.02 | Hendrick | yepp |
| 22:37.16 | Thanatermesis | after click, enter in a (elive) page, with the description of the IBAN and BIC, and also the paypal link for make from paypal way... |
| 22:37.20 | Thanatermesis | imho is the better option |
| 22:37.49 | _H_ | thantermesis |
| 22:37.50 | _H_ | estas? |
| 22:37.53 | Thanatermesis | si _H_ |
| 22:38.11 | Hendrick | it is your decision ;) I think it is ok |
| 22:38.32 | _H_ | tengo un problemilla que igual tu sabes resolver, mi debian ya no arranca, me dice file system check failed. please repair manualy |
| 22:38.45 | _H_ | estoy en otra particion , con otro debian |
| 22:38.52 | _H_ | y he montado como readonly |
| 22:39.00 | _H_ | y he hecho fsck |
| 22:39.08 | _H_ | pero no lo arregla |
| 22:39.12 | _H_ | sigue sin arrancar bien |
| 22:39.21 | Thanatermesis | _H_ ext2 ? |
| 22:39.22 | _H_ | me dice el mismo error |
| 22:39.24 | _H_ | ext3 |
| 22:39.50 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, has cerrado el ordenador "mal" ? osea, cortado la corriente de repente ? |
| 22:40.19 | Thanatermesis | prueba fsck.ext3 -p particion desde un liveCD... mas que eso no podria decirte :/ |
| 22:40.21 | _H_ | ahora no |
| 22:40.28 | _H_ | -p? |
| 22:40.46 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.50 | _H_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.55 | Thanatermesis | si |
| 22:41.07 | _H_ | pero si no me ha preguntado nada tio |
| 22:41.19 | _H_ | hay una coma entre fsck y ext3 |
| 22:41.38 | _H_ | hace falta que sea desde un live? porque ahora estoy arrancado de otro debian |
| 22:44.10 | Thanatermesis | no, desde otro debian tambien puedes |
| 22:44.12 | _H_ | lo monto como readonly? |
| 22:44.14 | Thanatermesis | una coma no, un punto |
| 22:44.22 | Thanatermesis | no, no debes montarlo |
| 22:44.24 | Thanatermesis | dejalo sin montar |
| 22:44.27 | _H_ | vale |
| 22:44.29 | Thanatermesis | entonces le pasas el fsck.ext3 |
| 22:46.52 | _H_ | esto es todo lo que dice: /: clean, 330526/2562240 files, 2070190/5120710 blocks |
| 22:46.59 | _H_ | y ahora que ? |
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| 22:47.59 | Thanatermesis | pues... prueba de montarlo a ver que pasa |
| 22:48.07 | Thanatermesis | a ver si tienes todos los ficheros en buen estado |
| 22:48.14 | Thanatermesis | si los tienes bien... te deberia de arrancar vaya |
| 22:48.52 | _H_ | lomonto sin problemas |
| 22:48.59 | _H_ | y un ls tambien sin problemas |
| 22:49.12 | _H_ | voy a probar de arrancar de nuevo |
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| 23:00.51 | Hendrick | good nite all |
| 23:00.59 | Thanatermesis | good night Hendrick |
| 23:02.11 | _H_ | bueno, he logrado arrancar pero porque he tocado el fstab |
| 23:02.29 | Thanatermesis | ;) |
| 23:02.46 | _H_ | pero no acabo de entenderlo |
| 23:02.56 | _H_ | primero era por el raiz |
| 23:02.59 | Thanatermesis | algo tendrias mal en el fstab |
| 23:03.09 | _H_ | pero he quitado lo de que si encuentra errores no arranque |
| 23:03.33 | _H_ | luego tampoco ha ido bien |
| 23:03.43 | _H_ | he comentado las lineas del hd externo y si ha ido bien |
| 23:03.50 | _H_ | no veo porque eso debia dar problemas |
| 23:04.52 | Thanatermesis | quizas este mal puestas esas lineas en el fstab |
| 23:06.02 | _H_ | #/dev/sda1 /sda1 auto defaults,umask=0 0 1 |
| 23:06.02 | _H_ | #/dev/sda2 /sda2 ext3 defaults 0 1 |
| 23:06.07 | _H_ | no veo el error |
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| 23:08.24 | Thanatermesis | cual es que cosa ? |
| 23:08.30 | Thanatermesis | mejor no pongas "auto" sino el suyo... |
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| 23:25.29 | _H_ | gracias :) |
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| 23:31.41 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2 |
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| 23:34.51 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2 |
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| 23:38.32 | dats | hola |
| 23:46.43 | manveru | hmm |
| 23:47.04 | manveru | Thanatermesis, you are working on a screensaver-menu for elpanel? |
| 23:47.17 | Thanatermesis | i have forgot it manveru |
| 23:47.36 | manveru | what do you mean? |
| 23:47.50 | manveru | didn't it work out? |
| 23:48.44 | Thanatermesis | i like to use xscreensaver, but i don't like really... also i can't posible to daemon it |
| 23:49.19 | manveru | i would love to have xscreensavers in e17... |
| 23:50.04 | manveru | but i have no idea how to configure them |
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