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`00:02.00`	`dererk`	`Joder`
`00:02.04`	`dererk`	`Casi me la dan unos jonkis`
`00:02.09`	`dererk`	`Como me salve! xD`
`00:02.13`	`dererk`	`roxville, ?`
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`00:16.17`	`dererk`	`roxville, What was that?`
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`00:17.41`	`roxville`	`lol`
`00:17.52`	`roxville`	`nothing, i was just fooling around`
`00:18.28`	`dererk`	`Oh, ok`
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`00:18.41`	`dererk`	`xD`
`00:18.48`	`manveru`	`foolers :)`
`00:19.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk quieres una nueva version de elpanel ? ;)`
`00:20.59`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Claro que quiero!!!`
`00:21.00`	`dererk`	`:D`
`00:21.17`	`dererk`	`Pero primero creo que deberia arreglar el temita mio de entrance`
`00:21.17`	`dererk`	`xD`
`00:21.22`	`dererk`	`Elpanel corren en consola?`
`00:21.24`	`dererk`	`xD`
`00:21.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk lanzalo desde consola hombre, es mas facil ;)`
`00:21.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`startx /usr/bin/e16`
`00:21.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`startx /usr/bin/enlightenment (e17)`
`00:22.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk mira el topic ;)`
`00:22.26`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, use one of the display settings icons for now`
`00:22.31`	`dererk`	`:0`
`00:22.40`	`roxville`	`i know you got an alt one`
`00:22.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk prueba de borrar /etc/init.d/entrance y /etc/entrance* y reinstalalo a ver`
`00:23.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok roxville , i use it then`
`00:23.27`	`roxville`	`damn.... i had one, but lost it...maybe i couldn't get it right..`
`00:24.14`	`dererk`	`roxville, Everything shows up when you stop looking for it`
`00:24.15`	`dererk`	`xD`
`00:25.50`	`dererk`	`ee_lars, dude, how did you buy cedega?`
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`00:45.31`	`dererk`	`:-/`
`00:45.35`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis didn't work`
`00:45.38`	`dererk`	`digo xD`
`00:45.42`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis no funciono :(`
`00:46.02`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis borre lo que me dijiste y no funciono`
`00:46.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk no consigo entender porque no funciona`
`00:46.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`startx /usr/bin/e16`
`00:46.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`funciona esto ?`
`00:46.36`	`dererk`	`a ver..`
`00:47.19`	`dererk`	`Si`
`00:47.23`	`dererk`	`Si funciona Thanatermesis`
`00:48.08`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis Bueno, de ultima forma, como cargo el e17 asi?`
`00:48.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`startx /usr/bin/enlightenment (e17)`
`00:50.31`	`dererk`	`(quit`
`00:50.36`	`dererk`	`xD`
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`00:52.06`	`*** topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Need Help? http://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Help \|\| Open your mind with elive-essence: "xmms http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/1035" \|\| Check #e #e.fr #e.es Enlightenment channels \|\| --== Elpanel ==-- NEW RELEASE 0.1elive4, new features: user-manager, share between computers, grub-manager, e17-themes. Diferences in: network-admin, date and time conf, daemon's manager`
`00:52.31`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, :)`
`00:52.39`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, venga elpanel cabron! xD`
`00:52.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk roxville manveru ... and of course apt and jaime-es ... make a good fun this night with elpanel :)`
`00:52.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`idefix upgraded`
`00:53.04`	`dererk`	`:)`
`00:53.12`	`dererk`	`apt, elpanel tio!`
`00:53.25`	`dererk`	`apt, que coños es elpanel?`
`00:53.31`	`dererk`	`apt, elpanel?`
`00:53.32`	`apt`	`rumour has it, elpanel is the future panel of control of Elive, the actual state in: 0 % - completed`
`00:53.35`	`*** topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Need Help? http://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Help \|\| Open your mind with elive-essence: "xmms http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/1035" \|\| Check #e #e.fr #e.es Enlightenment channels \|\| --== Elpanel ==-- NEW RELEASE 0.1elive4, new features: user-manager, share between computers, grub-manager, e17-themes. Diferences in: network-admin, date and time conf, daemon's manager... REPORT BUGS: open a private to Thanatermesis and explain the bug`
`00:53.41`	`dererk`	`xD`
`00:53.43`	`dererk`	`0%`
`00:53.45`	`dererk`	`xD`
`00:53.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt no, elpanel is the future panel of control of Elive, the actual state in: 85 % - completed`
`00:54.00`	`apt`	`Thanatermesis: okay`
`00:54.15`	`dererk`	`:)`
`00:54.32`	`dererk`	`xD`
`00:54.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`a ver cuantos bugs me encuentras dererk ;)`
`00:54.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk tienes 2 maquinas en la misma lan ?`
`00:55.25`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, bueno, si, 2 y unas 10 mas xD`
`00:55.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfecto, asi podras probar el feature de compartir directorios entre maquinas, e incluido incluso un montador bastante facil de usar :)`
`00:56.13`	`dererk`	`:0`
`00:56.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`;)`
`00:56.25`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Ya se termino el ivman? O_o`
`00:56.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk no, tengo aun que seguir configurandolo.. mas bien hacer una nueva conf, no me gusta la actual`
`00:56.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`voy a re-escribirlo`
`00:57.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`o repararlo... ya veré`
`00:57.23`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Ahh, el module de e es lo que dices?`
`00:57.24`	`dererk`	`:D`
`00:57.26`	`dererk`	`Que bien`
`00:57.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`module ? ivman != module of E`
`00:57.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno dererk ...`
`00:57.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`manveru ...`
`00:57.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville ...`
`00:58.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`im go to the bed now and check all the night the memory...`
`00:58.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh... next feature of elive... "check the good work and configuration of the system" :)`
`00:58.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`good nightz all`
`00:58.31`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Por eso`
`00:58.50`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, El montador que dices es el modulo para E, verdad?`
`00:58.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`s/next feature of elive/next feature of elpanel/ ;)`
`00:59.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`no dererk , para nada... echale un vistazo y lo verás ;)`
`00:59.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`ala, buenas nocheZZzzzZzzzzz`
`00:59.28`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Gnight!`
`00:59.45`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Que descanses bien princesa :)`
`01:00.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk con apt-get install elpanel ya te lo actualiza ;)`
`01:00.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDD`
`01:00.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`ademas, antes de perlerlo... te avisa si lo va a borrar o no ;)`
`01:00.10`	`manveru`	`Thanatermesis: good night :)`
`01:00.23`	`manveru`	`Thanatermesis: buenos noches (or something like that)`
`01:00.26`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, je, si :)`
`01:00.50`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, pero ve, ve, ve a descanzar un poco, hoy fue un dia muuuuy largo para ti, routers y eso te acompañaran en el sueño xD`
`01:02.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`verdad dererk ... verdad, solo estaba hechandole un vistazo a un problemilla de libxine... pero parece estar resuelto, no entiendo el problema que tiene sinplomo... a ver si me acuerdo y se lo pregunto mañana....`
`01:02.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk y una version mucho mejor de elpanel con muchos features nuevos ;)`
`01:03.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`FEATURES FEATURES FEATURES !!!!`
`01:03.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt features`
`01:03.04`	`apt`	`Oh, i feel so bloated... burp`
`01:03.10`	`dererk`	`xD`
`01:03.10`	`manveru`	`^^`
`01:03.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`01:03.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`good night`
`01:03.20`	`manveru`	`sleep welll`
`01:03.23`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Que descanses bien :)`
`01:03.27`	`dererk`	`Lo mereces`
`01:03.28`	`dererk`	`:)`
`01:03.40`	`dererk`	`ChanServ, deop Thanatermesis`
`01:03.41`	`dererk`	`:P`
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`02:30.34`	`azzazus`	`does anyone know where Qt headers are located?`
`02:37.02`	`roxville`	`nope azzazus, sorry :/`
`02:37.11`	`roxville`	`google?`
`02:42.43`	`azzazus`	`don't worry, found it`
`02:43.37`	`azzazus`	`roxville: i can't seeem to find qlist.h in the header files`
`02:43.56`	`azzazus`	`roxville: shouldn't be there`
`02:44.05`	`azzazus`	`?`
`02:48.05`	`roxville`	`azzazus, asking me right now, is like asking god... you won't get a straight answer.... god gnows, i don't, but you won't get a straight answer from any of us! lol`
`02:48.47`	`roxville`	`i would love to help you, but i have no idea dude`
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`03:03.28`	`*** topic/#elive is Need Help? http://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Help \|\| Open your mind with elive-essence: "xmms http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/1035" \|\| Check #e #e.fr #e.es Enlightenment channels \|\| --== Elpanel ==-- NEW RELEASE 0.1elive4, new features: user-manager, share between computers, grub-manager, e17-themes. Diferences in: network-admin, date and time conf, daemon's manager... REPORT BUGS: open a private to Thanatermesis and explain the bug`
`03:22.16`	`roxville`	`bbl ppl`
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`09:15.38`	`manveru`	`good morning guys`
`09:20.36`	`Nenillo`	`hi`
`09:22.03`	`manveru`	`sweet - a working e17 on a non-elive`
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`09:38.07`	`Elive_user`	`jjjf`
`09:38.21`	`Elive_user`	`hello everybody`
`09:38.50`	`Elive_user`	`is there anyone here`
`09:39.52`	`Elive_user`	`o no!`
`09:40.07`	`Elive_user`	`q`
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`10:44.18`	`dererk`	`Gday all!`
`10:44.20`	`dererk`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:44.33`	`dererk`	`I've a new PC :D~`
`10:44.51`	`manveru`	`hey, lucky you :)`
`10:44.57`	`dererk`	`:D`
`10:45.02`	`dererk`	`manveru, Hi dud`
`10:45.04`	`dererk`	`manveru, Hi dude`
`10:45.09`	`dererk`	`How are you doing?`
`10:45.14`	`manveru`	`oh, fine`
`10:45.25`	`manveru`	`i just finished the installation of grml with e17`
`10:45.46`	`dererk`	`grml?`
`10:45.53`	`dererk`	`:-_`
`10:45.58`	`dererk`	`What's that?`
`10:46.06`	`manveru`	`http://www.grml.org`
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`11:38.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`good morning`
`11:38.29`	`manveru`	`Thanatermesis, hey :)`
`11:38.40`	`manveru`	`e17 runs on grml`
`11:38.48`	`manveru`	`better than ever...`
`11:38.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`;)`
`11:39.12`	`manveru`	`only one stupid question`
`11:39.22`	`manveru`	`is there a shortcut for executing commands?`
`11:39.47`	`manveru`	`like alt+f2 in kde or ctrl+alt+p in wmii`
`11:45.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`ummm`
`11:45.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`i don't know for this`
`11:45.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`control-alt-insert opens a terminal if this helps you...`
`11:45.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`erme is for add any shorcut ;)`
`11:45.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`and #e is the channel of enlightenment.. ask about the shortcut of "exige"`
`11:49.06`	`manveru`	`hmm, k :)`
`11:49.38`	`manveru`	`opening the terminal is really handy`
`11:49.48`	`manveru`	`it's like alt+t in wmii`
`11:50.04`	`manveru`	`only have to be careful not to press del instead`
`11:51.55`	`manveru`	`what is exige?`
`11:55.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`type "exige"`
`11:55.30`	`manveru`	`i haven't got this one installed`
`11:55.36`	`manveru`	`i just try to get etools`
`11:55.44`	`manveru`	`but... some problems arise`
`11:56.20`	`manveru`	`no matter what i install, it wants to uninstall efl-all and entrance`
`12:04.53`	`manveru`	`ok, i think i have got it right now`
`12:05.06`	`manveru`	`should be working after this dist-upgrade has finished`
`12:05.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`e-utils you need`
`12:05.47`	`manveru`	`i had a bad dependency with lighttpd wich needed task-vserver, wich would have removed every x on my system`
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`12:12.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`what dependency ?`
`12:16.48`	`manveru`	`nevermind - was some stuff from me :)`
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`12:23.17`	`dererk`	`Hi all!`
`12:23.20`	`dererk`	`manveru, back`
`12:23.28`	`dererk`	`What were you telling me manveru? xD`
`12:27.21`	`manveru`	`hm?`
`12:27.33`	`manveru`	`ah, grml`
`12:27.53`	`manveru`	`it's like the perfect distro for e17 (in my mind)`
`12:28.04`	`manveru`	`Thanatermesis, ok, have e-utils now`
`12:28.38`	`manveru`	`oh, i know exige from a screenshot`
`12:28.42`	`manveru`	`thx for the tip`
`12:29.01`	`dererk`	`I see.`
`12:52.25`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, La aplicacion para configurar Ibar desaparecio O_o`
`12:54.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt vobcopy`
`12:54.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt vobcopy is deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive`
`12:54.32`	`apt`	`Thanatermesis: okay`
`12:54.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt vobcopy`
`12:54.35`	`apt`	`rumour has it, vobcopy is deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive`
`12:55.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt no, vobcopy is the repository of vobcopy is: deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive`
`12:55.12`	`apt`	`okay, Thanatermesis`
`12:55.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt vobcopy`
`12:55.16`	`apt`	`from memory, vobcopy is the repository of vobcopy is: deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive`
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`12:58.07`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Ahora crasheo e17 xD`
`12:59.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk que tal elpanel ?`
`12:59.26`	`dererk`	`Bonito, pero tiene un par de bugs :)`
`13:04.00`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, me ves?`
`13:04.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`si`
`13:04.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`estoy esperando que escribas xD`
`13:04.54`	`dererk`	`Pues yo esperaba que tu escribas`
`13:04.56`	`dererk`	`xD`
`13:04.57`	`dererk`	`Bueno`
`13:05.03`	`dererk`	`Luego lo del elpanel`
`13:05.06`	`dererk`	`Primero`
`13:05.47`	`dererk`	`puede ser que haya desaparecido la aplicacion para configurar los iconos de la Ibar`
`13:06.19`	`dererk`	`Servia tambien para configurar las aplicaciones favoritas y eso`
`13:06.31`	`dererk`	`no recuerdo como se llamaba :-(`
`13:07.29`	`dererk`	`ya escribi xD`
`13:08.48`	`dererk`	`Entangle`
`13:08.49`	`dererk`	`esa`
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`13:12.50`	`dererk`	`Crasheo de nuevo :-(`
`13:14.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`entangle ?`
`13:14.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`funciona entangle ?`
`13:14.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`good morning roxville`
`13:15.21`	`dererk`	`Si, funciona, pero no tiene su acceso desde el menu grafico :-(`
`13:15.27`	`dererk`	`roxville, Gday!`
`13:15.59`	`dererk`	`fucking upgrades :-(`
`13:17.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk tengo que upgradear el repo... veremos que tal anda ahora`
`13:17.47`	`dererk`	`Dale`
`13:18.13`	`roxville`	`hi! :)`
`13:18.31`	`dererk`	`roxville, Hi dude! :)`
`13:19.07`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Ahh, ya envie correos a TG, la empresa que maneja cedega`
`13:19.17`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, a ver cuanto tardan en responder :-S`
`13:20.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk creo que cedega es totalmene "ilegal" ponerlo en Elive ... bueno, veremos que dicen. (ee_lars estuvo mirando )`
`13:20.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville you have tested the new elpanel ? :)`
`13:21.14`	`dererk`	`Ah, entiendo Thanatermesis`
`13:21.27`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Aun queda Winex`
`13:21.32`	`roxville`	`no thana, i can hrdly log on to elive at all :/`
`13:21.38`	`dererk`	`no lo he probado, pero veremos a ver que sucede`
`13:21.51`	`dererk`	`roxville, Leave ubuntu!!!!`
`13:21.52`	`dererk`	`xD`
`13:22.02`	`roxville`	`it install apps by NOT installing them! lol`
`13:22.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk winex igual que cedega por lo visto`
`13:22.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville "klik" is a bad thing for elive...`
`13:22.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`it not uses dinamic libraries, of course work`
`13:23.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`but you use applications launched (again) the same libs of you can use for another applications, because is static and no dinamic`
`13:23.24`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, por cierto, alguna vez me daran pr0t0cod7 o tu acceso para modificar la noticia al español? xD`
`13:23.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`with dinamic, you can launch 100 applications, and uses the same lib ? then, launch ONLY one time the lib, but for 100 applications, saving a lot of your ram :)`
`13:24.01`	`roxville`	`ok`
`13:24.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk es un "nuevo feature" de la pagina... no se como a quedado la cosa, deberiamos hablar con pr0t0cod7 ...`
`13:24.20`	`roxville`	`but why would you launch a 100 apps?`
`13:24.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`creo que tenian que "repararlo" por ese aspecto`
`13:24.44`	`roxville`	`anyway thana, my elive is... kaputt... kind of...`
`13:24.46`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Pero dice que no tengo permiso para editarlo, nada mas`
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`13:24.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`13:25.02`	`dererk`	`Cannot edit article "Support" by Thanatermesis`
`13:25.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville its an example... but imagine GTK, is VERY used... you have 4 application in gtk now... why launch 4 times the libs of gtk using 4x more your ram if you can posible to use only 1 ?`
`13:25.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk lo se... pr0t0cod7 ping`
`13:25.37`	`dererk`	`pr0t0cod7, ping xD`
`13:28.41`	`Elive_user`	`hi! (i'm the one with glx problems) so... where could I get some nice themes (for e17)?`
`13:29.06`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, you have a point! But.. for those "hard to install apps" with weird dependencies`
`13:29.55`	`dererk`	`Elive_user, You may apt-get them`
`13:30.10`	`Elive_user`	`what are the packages?`
`13:30.35`	`dererk`	`Elive_user, and follow site instructions at http://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Help/Howtos/#19`
`13:30.54`	`Elive_user`	`ook... i'll try :D`
`13:30.58`	`roxville`	`or, if you open synaptic, you can just look for them, e17-themes something`
`13:31.07`	`roxville`	`BUT!!!`
`13:31.18`	`Elive_user`	`?`
`13:31.26`	`roxville`	`some themes are a little weird after the last e17 update`
`13:31.32`	`roxville`	`so be careful`
`13:31.36`	`dererk`	`lol`
`13:31.58`	`roxville`	`the default theme and elive theme are the only ones i recommend right now`
`13:32.27`	`Elive_user`	`oh, ok :D thanks, but i want to see other themes 2...`
`13:32.41`	`dererk`	`:)`
`13:32.52`	`roxville`	`of course!`
`13:33.09`	`roxville`	`and you will! as soon as they are updated`
`13:33.40`	`dererk`	`roxville, as soon as you pay for them xDDDDDD`
`13:33.43`	`dererk`	`lol`
`13:33.50`	`roxville`	`but for now... "milky" seg falts the whole system, i had to run elive skel to remove it`
`13:34.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`<roxville> Thanatermesis, you have a point! But.. for those "hard to install apps" with weird dependencies`
`13:34.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes... for this yes...`
`13:34.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`do you know any ? :)`
`13:34.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`also... is posible to i try to package it...`
`13:34.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`but in any case, is really more better to package than use this system (also for static libs, its posible to package with static libs)`
`13:35.02`	`roxville`	`thana it's a cool way to try out new apps without installing a ton of deps`
`13:35.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user install "elpanel", this have a theme selector now ;)`
`13:35.37`	`Elive_user`	`hmmm... ill try :) is it in apt too?`
`13:35.44`	`Elive_user`	`su`
`13:35.46`	`Elive_user`	`ackpowi`
`13:35.57`	`Elive_user`	`lol`
`13:36.01`	`Elive_user`	`sry, my root pass...`
`13:36.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville "klick" applications is the "normal applications"... look the lists of programs ;)`
`13:36.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user "elive" is the root pass`
`13:36.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user apt-get update first, yes`
`13:36.40`	`Elive_user`	`ok, i know how to apt, but anyway my root pass is not 'elive'`
`13:36.46`	`Elive_user`	`i hard installed`
`13:37.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`you have installed Elive and don't remember the root pass Elive_user ?`
`13:38.18`	`Elive_user`	`no-no... i just said, that i changed root pass`
`13:39.38`	`Elive_user`	`oh, and since i'm talking to linuxoids now (i'm a linux user for 1,5 months now) - how can i mount windows shared folders? what package and how to config?`
`13:41.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`try linneighborhood`
`13:41.42`	`dererk`	`linneighborhood`
`13:41.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`linneighborhood for elpanel ?`
`13:43.32`	`Elive_user`	`btw, is there a full list of international repos in the web?`
`13:44.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`launch synaptic and look in the "elive" section ;)`
`13:45.49`	`Elive_user`	`ooou kkkkay.... and definately 1 more question - how do i configure sudo, so i can sudo from other accounts? (yep, i'm just a newbie %))`
`13:46.33`	`Elive_user`	`(it says my_user is not in the sudoers file)`
`13:46.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user this is a new feature added in elpanel :)`
`13:47.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`install elpanel and search "users-manager" ;)`
`13:47.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`builded yesterday ;)`
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`13:47.47`	`Elive_user`	`wow... great! i'm dl-ing elpanel already (soon should be done).`
`13:48.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user is builded yesterday a lot of new features (see the topic), if you found any bug... inform me ;)`
`13:48.43`	`Elive_user`	`all in all i wanty to say, that elive is a 5+ distro (in my opinion)`
`13:49.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`5+ ?`
`13:49.44`	`Elive_user`	`oh, bugs? the only bug i had was that glx problem (5+ = A+ = best score)`
`13:49.59`	`Elive_user`	`(if that's cosidered a bug)`
`13:50.27`	`Elive_user`	`and btw, my video driver is not auto detected`
`13:50.43`	`Elive_user`	`its vesa by default...`
`13:51.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`5+ :D`
`13:51.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`what is your video driver ?`
`13:51.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`video card`
`13:52.14`	`Elive_user`	`umm... 1 sec... i'll check the manual...`
`13:54.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user lspci \| grep VGA`
`13:56.15`	`Elive_user`	`thx :D Silicon Integrated Devices [SiS] 661FX/M661FX/741/M741/760/M760 (pci/agp) - it's really crappy, but i have to use it :D`
`13:58.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, and this cards have acceleration 3d ?`
`13:58.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user try to delete the "nvidia-glx" pacakge`
`13:58.54`	`Elive_user`	`i deleted it already :D`
`13:59.04`	`Elive_user`	`this problem was solved yesterday`
`13:59.54`	`Elive_user`	`shold elpanel apper in menu or i should manually add it?`
`14:00.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`is deleted by default in 0.3`
`14:00.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`you need only to add :)`
`14:00.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`you are in e16 or e17 ?`
`14:00.49`	`Elive_user`	`e17`
`14:01.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`14:02.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`try to upgrade the e17 conf from elpanel (again :)) (you lost your personal configuration in e17)`
`14:02.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`im not sure but.. is posible to are added in the dock`
`14:03.53`	`Elive_user`	`ok.`
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`14:05.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
`14:06.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`grrr plugin`
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`14:12.28`	`Elive_user`	`ummm... where are the module loading options in control panel??`
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`14:13.23`	`Elive_user`	`ok. found it :D`
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`14:19.50`	`Elive_user`	`wher elpanel starts (where the choise is - e16, e17) - the icons are invisible! everything's black.`
`14:20.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`what Elive_user ?`
`14:20.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`you can posible to make a screenshot for me ?`
`14:20.18`	`Elive_user`	`but it is only when you just started elpanel`
`14:20.26`	`Elive_user`	`ok. 1 second`
`14:20.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, is only 1 second of black image ?`
`14:23.25`	`Elive_user`	`What i do: i type 'elpanel' -> a panel appears -> it's black -> but the monitor below starts showing description on certain regions on the black panel -> i have to choose "blindly" (at the moment it's black for about 5 minutes`
`14:23.47`	`Elive_user`	`what was the screenshot command?`
`14:24.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`hum`
`14:24.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`then is a problem...`
`14:24.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`is very posible because you have a old version of edje`
`14:25.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user don't make screenshot, i understand now`
`14:25.16`	`Elive_user`	`0ok.`
`14:25.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user then... you need to upgrade "efl-all" package`
`14:25.24`	`Elive_user`	`ok.`
`14:25.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`(sorry, little big :))`
`14:25.50`	`Elive_user`	`it happens only on the first "screen" of elpanel`
`14:26.01`	`Elive_user`	`so its no big problem`
`14:26.12`	`Elive_user`	`i just wanted u to know bout that :D`
`14:27.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`first screen of elpanel ?`
`14:27.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, what is the time of this "black screen" ? 5 minutes ?`
`14:30.02`	`Elive_user`	`it lasts uptil i select one of "blackened" buttons - e16, user configs or e17`
`14:30.21`	`Elive_user`	`after i select one of then the following things are working nice`
`14:31.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`good then :) in any case, if you upgrade, it works...`
`14:31.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`and of course, your e17 is upgraded then`
`14:31.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`you has look the "blue" button for "return" ?`
`14:31.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`found*`
`14:33.03`	`Elive_user`	`oh, now i found it...`
`14:33.43`	`Elive_user`	`but to say the thuth, it should be more ... how can i say... more "markable" :D`
`14:34.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes... :/`
`14:34.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`14:34.30`	`roxville`	`:)`
`14:34.45`	`Elive_user`	`ok. i'll go walk my dog. but i will definately return with my stupid questions :D`
`14:35.07`	`Elive_user`	`flashing would be nice, or at least put a sign on it - that'll help`
`14:35.08`	`roxville`	`:)`
`14:35.40`	`roxville`	`your "stupid" questions helps thana make a better elive`
`14:36.09`	`roxville`	`only prob is... he has to THINK`
`14:36.12`	`roxville`	`:)`
`14:36.16`	`Elive_user`	`ok. then in the next 2-3 week you'll hear tons of questions and comments :D i promise`
`14:36.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`:) lol`
`14:36.57`	`Elive_user`	`:DDD`
`14:37.08`	`Elive_user`	`ok. cya.`
`14:37.10`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, i have a stupid question too`
`14:37.38`	`roxville`	`how the fuck can i upgrade when i can't log in as root, even in console?`
`14:38.05`	`roxville`	`can i do something from here?(ubuntu)`
`14:38.13`	`roxville`	`same machine`
`14:39.49`	`roxville`	`i can't make that icon, cause... i can't access the themes`
`14:41.01`	`roxville`	`i can open any dir in my elive install from u`
`14:41.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`i don't understand... you CANT login with root ?`
`14:41.33`	`roxville`	`exactly: can NOT`
`14:41.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`why ?`
`14:41.55`	`roxville`	`i tried to upgrade last night, but it was a mess!`
`14:42.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`from the console or from the entrace ? both ?`
`14:42.11`	`roxville`	`both`
`14:42.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, what about "su" ?`
`14:42.48`	`roxville`	`nope`
`14:42.56`	`roxville`	`not sudo, not su`
`14:43.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`O_O`
`14:43.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`how to posible ?`
`14:43.14`	`roxville`	`yeah`
`14:43.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmh, from the console, a normal login: "root" "******"`
`14:43.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`don't works ?`
`14:43.47`	`roxville`	`nope`
`14:44.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`your ssh server is normally closed ? (for the ppl)?`
`14:44.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`external access`
`14:45.10`	`roxville`	`i don't know`
`14:45.26`	`roxville`	`probably not`
`14:45.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok roxville , reboot with a eliveCD and i repair this`
`14:47.25`	`roxville`	`with the CD? i can log in as user...but if you need untouched...`
`14:48.48`	`roxville`	`ok, brb`
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`15:08.16`	`Elive_user`	`hi again. i have 15 minutes time... i was wandering - how do i configure weather module? it shows 30 grades all the time (it's much colder now)`
`15:09.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`i don't know... this is a question for #e channel`
`15:09.48`	`Elive_user`	`oh, ok.`
`15:10.49`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, muy amable`
`15:10.50`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`15:11.31`	`Elive_user`	`and, a comment about panel -> the running line is not quite good idea ... it would be more cofortable if i could see the whole 'tip' string at once... but it's just a wish :D`
`15:12.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo ni idea de weather :P`
`15:12.45`	`sinplomo`	`;)`
`15:12.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user what "running line" ?`
`15:15.01`	`Elive_user`	`well, that 'thing' under the main panel in elpanel. there is a running string, explaining what the certain icon mean.`
`15:15.12`	`Elive_user`	`(lower part of elpanel`
`15:15.13`	`Elive_user`	`)`
`15:16.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, a short description in the "dock" of elpanel... showing what is this icon`
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`15:16.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es it would be more cofortable if i could see the whole 'tip' string at once...`
`15:18.39`	`Elive_user`	`* it's a pity i don't know that language... i know only english, estonian and russian...*`
`15:19.40`	`roxville`	`estonian is very handy... when you are in estonia :)`
`15:19.58`	`Elive_user`	`yeah... it really is :D`
`15:20.06`	`Elive_user`	`but nowhere else :D`
`15:20.24`	`roxville`	`pretty much the same with swedish dude:)`
`15:21.28`	`Elive_user`	`hehe... i remember sweden... we had to read street signs for about 5 minutes each - so manu strange symols and emourmously big names :D`
`15:21.48`	`roxville`	`LOL`
`15:21.58`	`roxville`	`big names?`
`15:22.06`	`Elive_user`	`i mean long street names...`
`15:22.30`	`roxville`	`duuuh! worse in finland`
`15:22.45`	`roxville`	`mecheliininkatu`
`15:23.01`	`roxville`	`gotgatan`
`15:23.06`	`roxville`	`see? lol`
`15:23.21`	`Elive_user`	`:D yep... you know, to me they're all difficult`
`15:23.41`	`Elive_user`	`in Estonia we have - viru, tuisu, pikk, lai`
`15:23.48`	`Elive_user`	`much-much easier`
`15:24.34`	`Elive_user`	`(yay i'm downloading upgrade 479 of 499! i see the light in the end!)`
`15:27.16`	`roxville`	`lol`
`15:27.59`	`Elive_user`	`thats bout 300 megs of dl-ing`
`15:28.43`	`Elive_user`	`OH, btw, i noticed one nice thing misiing in 'install to hard drive'`
`15:29.39`	`Elive_user`	`it'd be great if there would be a dialog where i could add lines to fstab`
`15:29.47`	`Elive_user`	`like in ubuntu, for example`
`15:30.14`	`Elive_user`	`there's that sign 'ubuntu detected other partitions - would u like to add them to fstab?'`
`15:30.31`	`roxville`	`yeah, that is nice`
`15:30.44`	`roxville`	`but... it's a little different from a live cd`
`15:30.57`	`roxville`	`that's why ubuntu has 2 different cd's`
`15:31.58`	`roxville`	`because it's hard to convert the whole shebang into a perfect system from a live cd`
`15:31.58`	`Elive_user`	`but i'm talking here about the "hard disk install" :D not the live-cd`
`15:32.21`	`Elive_user`	`isn't it like adding lines to the install script?`
`15:32.39`	`roxville`	`yes... and ubuntu has 2 cds, one install, one live`
`15:33.01`	`roxville`	`elive is a live cd with an install script`
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`15:33.09`	`roxville`	`the difference is HUGE`
`15:33.51`	`Elive_user`	`hmph... what's the difference between installing to hard drive from livecd and from bootup?`
`15:34.02`	`Elive_user`	`to me - no difference...`
`15:34.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`a lot of diferences :)`
`15:34.29`	`Elive_user`	`* ok, maybe i'm too dumb to understand ^_^ *`
`15:34.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`better work`
`15:34.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`internal diferences ;)`
`15:34.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`not very for the eyes of the ppl`
`15:35.11`	`Elive_user`	`i mean that the only thing u have to do is improve the install script with some additional code... isn't that right`
`15:35.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es i mean that the only thing u have to do is improve the install script with some additional code... isn't that right`
`15:36.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`i not have writed the installer, rebuild another installer is a lot of work`
`15:37.19`	`Elive_user`	`ok. i'm just curious.`
`15:38.58`	`roxville`	`no, nyt puhun eesti! :)`
`15:40.15`	`Elive_user`	`whaaa??`
`15:40.31`	`Elive_user`	`mis sa ytelda tahad?`
`15:40.38`	`Elive_user`	`ei saan'd aru tegelt`
`15:40.44`	`roxville`	`lol`
`15:40.57`	`Elive_user`	`isnt that finnish?`
`15:41.04`	`roxville`	`yes`
`15:41.17`	`roxville`	`and i can't get to my keybconf right now`
`15:41.35`	`Elive_user`	`y do u need it?`
`15:41.40`	`roxville`	`i'm from sweden, but my ex wife was from finland, so i learned a little`
`15:42.07`	`roxville`	`and i played music quite a bit on the ship from stockholm to Tallinn`
`15:42.20`	`roxville`	`so i have been in Tallinn... a few times`
`15:42.23`	`Elive_user`	`oh, a musician? what do u play?`
`15:42.40`	`roxville`	`and i LOVE Vana Tallinn! (the drink)`
`15:42.58`	`Elive_user`	`* i don't like vana tallinn :DD *`
`15:43.04`	`roxville`	`i'm a singer/guitarplayer`
`15:43.12`	`Elive_user`	`oh, i'm a keyboardist`
`15:43.19`	`roxville`	`but viru valde is also very good`
`15:43.26`	`roxville`	`valge`
`15:43.46`	`roxville`	`i was a personal friend of Urmas Alenter`
`15:43.49`	`Elive_user`	`that's vodka! i try to drink absolut. it's more... umm... tasty :D`
`15:44.01`	`Elive_user`	`* if i knew who that is... *`
`15:44.33`	`roxville`	`a famous estonian singer/actor... he died in the "Estonia" catastoph`
`15:44.55`	`roxville`	`not sure i spelled his name right, lol`
`15:45.23`	`Elive_user`	`oh...`
`15:45.27`	`Elive_user`	`ok. i gotta run now.`
`15:45.35`	`roxville`	`ok, have fun`
`15:45.38`	`Elive_user`	`bye all!`
`16:09.46`	`sinplomo`	`apt w8`
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`16:28.33`	`Elive_user`	`cuervo`
`16:28.55`	`Elive_user`	`Cuervo`
`16:30.09`	`Elive_user`	`holaaaaaaaaaaa`
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`17:12.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`17:28.19`	`kender`	`hello`
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`17:34.03`	`Voronwe`	`hi`
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`17:41.24`	`goldstein`	`hello`
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`17:48.35`	`dererk`	`Hi goldstein ee_lars`
`17:48.47`	`ee_lars`	`hello dererk`
`17:49.37`	`ee_lars`	`what time is it in .ar? :)`
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`17:53.29`	`pr0t0cod7`	`lol`
`17:54.13`	`ee_lars`	`Hello Thanatermesis : are you drunk?`
`17:55.32`	`ee_lars`	`salut pr0t0cod7`
`17:56.22`	`manveru`	`Thanatermesis, thx for the subtle info`
`17:57.31`	`manveru`	`Thanatermesis, what's new?`
`17:59.45`	`rookmoot`	`lo pr0t0cod7`
`18:00.35`	`pr0t0cod7`	`hello guys`
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`18:07.56`	`rookmoot`	`ca va pr0t0cod7 ?`
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`18:09.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`manveru all e17 and efl things`
`18:10.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`ee_lars nop, im good :) its a notice ;)`
`18:10.22`	`manveru`	`Thanatermesis, upgrade successful`
`18:10.30`	`manveru`	`something new for me to play with? :)`
`18:10.53`	`ee_lars`	`:)`
`18:10.56`	`pr0t0cod7`	`rookmoot: ouai je viens de me lever, un peu mal au crane :p`
`18:11.31`	`manveru`	`Thanatermesis, i only cannot install elpanel - i haven't got keybconf and langconf`
`18:11.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`manveru of course, all things in elpanel (read what things in the topic) ;)`
`18:11.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`i need tests of this new features`
`18:11.58`	`ee_lars`	`wow there's anothers Enlightenment updates :p`
`18:12.00`	`rookmoot`	`lol fénéant !!!`
`18:12.07`	`pr0t0cod7`	`rookmoot: et toi? le php ca avance?`
`18:12.17`	`rookmoot`	`pas trop touché`
`18:12.18`	`pr0t0cod7`	`xD`
`18:12.21`	`pr0t0cod7`	`oki`
`18:12.25`	`rookmoot`	`commencé l'espace projet`
`18:12.29`	`pr0t0cod7`	`pareil`
`18:12.30`	`rookmoot`	`faudrait voir surtout pour le mail`
`18:12.33`	`rookmoot`	`je suis blocker la`
`18:12.36`	`pr0t0cod7`	`le mail?`
`18:12.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`manveru for elpanel... add this repo: deb http://www.morphix.org/debian ./`
`18:12.42`	`rookmoot`	`pour la ml`
`18:12.45`	`manveru`	`ty`
`18:12.55`	`pr0t0cod7`	`rookmoot: oui et bin?`
`18:13.06`	`rookmoot`	`il est parti ?`
`18:13.08`	`rookmoot`	`sended ?`
`18:13.17`	`pr0t0cod7`	`ahh`
`18:13.22`	`pr0t0cod7`	`bah non`
`18:13.44`	`pr0t0cod7`	`rookmoot: je t'ai expliqué l'autre fois`
`18:13.51`	`manveru`	`Thanatermesis, btw, i gave the grml-people the address of idefix and soulmachine, they will include them commented in the next release`
`18:14.27`	`pr0t0cod7`	`rookmoot: vaut mieux attendre que les site soit plus complet`
`18:14.29`	`rookmoot`	`pr0t0cod7, bah ouai, donc c'est la priorité mtn :)`
`18:14.39`	`rookmoot`	`hm`
`18:14.40`	`pr0t0cod7`	`rookmoot: a moins que ca t'emmerde de l'avoir en local`
`18:14.54`	`rookmoot`	`bah ca m'enmerde pas`
`18:15.00`	`rookmoot`	`mais jpeux plus avancé`
`18:15.15`	`pr0t0cod7`	`ca c'etait le 1. le 2. c'est que il faut que une ou plusieurs personne le modifient`
`18:15.37`	`pr0t0cod7`	`ou alors faut que je le refasse parcque il y a des choses qui ne vont pas`
`18:15.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`manveru include them commented ?`
`18:16.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es btw, i gave the grml-people the address of idefix and soulmachine, they will include them commented in the next release`
`18:16.14`	`rookmoot`	`pr0t0cod7, caro devant y touché :)`
`18:16.24`	`pr0t0cod7`	`ouai :/`
`18:16.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`no manveru don't make this please`
`18:16.43`	`pr0t0cod7`	`rookmoot: ah on peu pas ajouter de projets, tu va tout effacer apres en fait?`
`18:16.49`	`manveru`	`Thanatermesis, they have a sources.list that includes all stuff only possible, from experimental lighttpd to inofficial kde-debs`
`18:17.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`:/`
`18:17.30`	`manveru`	`Thanatermesis, is that a bad thing?`
`18:17.34`	`rookmoot`	`pr0t0cod7, non on peut pas ajouter de projet, pxq ca depend de la plateforme et oui j'effacerais bien tout qu'on commence a écrire un peu :)`
`18:17.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`because the transfer is limited manveru`
`18:17.59`	`manveru`	`Thanatermesis, it is only a very small austrian distribution...`
`18:18.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`i have need to search another repository after vobcopy, because the transfer is high and vobcopy don't have sufficient mensual transfer`
`18:18.17`	`manveru`	`if you want, i can be a mirror as well`
`18:18.32`	`pr0t0cod7`	`rookmoot: hmm et ya pas moyen d'avoir l'espace tuxfamily avant d'avoir le dns? :/`
`18:18.35`	`manveru`	`about 200gb/month for you`
`18:18.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`manveru do you thing about is a good idea ?`
`18:19.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`the Elive packages not have the good "needs" of debian packages`
`18:19.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`not are builded from debian pacakges`
`18:19.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`(for example violates the policy of debian in some things)`
`18:19.38`	`manveru`	`i think they play very well together with debian`
`18:19.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`is prepaired for work in Elive systems. but...`
`18:19.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`for example, try this:`
`18:19.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt-get remove efl-all`
`18:19.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`look the message ;)`
`18:20.21`	`manveru`	`yeah...`
`18:21.05`	`manveru`	`that won't play nice with package-managers`
`18:21.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`and also don't exist the sources packages`
`18:21.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`deb-src`
`18:21.29`	`manveru`	`but have a look at http://www.grml.org`
`18:21.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`all is maked from another "way of construction" of packages...`
`18:21.37`	`manveru`	`and you will see what kind of guys they are`
`18:21.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`the packages of Elive don't is "real debian pacakges"`
`18:22.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x es en siguiendo las normativas y leyes de debian`
`18:22.19`	`rookmoot`	`pr0t0cod7, ouai ya moyen mais faudra recreer un espace qd on aura le dns .`
`18:23.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`manveru for debian based distro's, i recommends really "debian repositories", no the Elive repository`
`18:23.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`exist repositories of packages of e17 prepaired for the "debian way"`
`18:23.56`	`manveru`	`ok, i will tell them`
`18:24.42`	`manveru`	`"Sorry, user manveru is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/langconf' as root on grml."`
`18:24.59`	`manveru`	`not sure if that's a problem on my side, but i guess so`
`18:25.12`	`rookmoot`	`pr0t0cod7, e.frmodo`
`18:27.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`<manveru> "Sorry, user manveru is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/langconf' as root on grml."`
`18:27.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`18:28.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`manveru for example the soulmachine repository is totally compatible with debian "law's"`
`18:28.36`	`manveru`	`if it was up more often`
`18:28.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`and.. rookmoot is building a new repository of e17... but i don't know very more (the way used for example), ask directly to he ;)`
`18:29.02`	`rookmoot`	`it runs !`
`18:29.06`	`rookmoot`	`i'am testing it`
`18:29.18`	`rookmoot`	`deb http://www.10keuss.com/debian packages/`
`18:29.27`	`rookmoot`	`apt-get update`
`18:29.31`	`rookmoot`	`apt-get e17`
`18:29.40`	`rookmoot`	`apt-get install e17`
`18:29.54`	`manveru`	`well, that's a channel - no console`
`18:30.04`	`rookmoot`	`hihi`
`18:30.28`	`manveru`	`however, if you need a mirror, i could provide you with some space on my server`
`18:32.56`	`rookmoot`	`i'am hosted`
`18:32.59`	`rookmoot`	`:p`
`18:33.03`	`rookmoot`	`100Mbps`
`18:53.02`	`goldstein`	`what is $SRCHOME and how do i check its value?`
`18:56.17`	`goldstein`	`hum, ive discovered already`
`19:01.40`	`goldstein`	`what is esac?`
`19:03.46`	`manveru`	`apt_ info esac`
`19:04.24`	`goldstein`	`thx`
`19:04.36`	`goldstein`	`...`
`19:05.14`	`goldstein`	`ive downloaded oracle for linux but when i try to install it says it only works in suse, redhat and asianux`
`19:05.26`	`goldstein`	`that pisses me..`
`19:06.25`	`goldstein`	`ill check if i could cheat the installer..`
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`19:14.37`	`ee_lars`	`hello goldstein :)`
`19:14.52`	`goldstein`	`ee_lars, hey`
`19:18.46`	`ee_lars`	`goldstein : oracle works on anothers distrib`
`19:19.03`	`ee_lars`	`but it is certified for just a few ones...`
`19:19.12`	`goldstein`	`yes, i see..`
`19:19.27`	`goldstein`	`i am working on making cheating it;)`
`19:19.46`	`ee_lars`	`try to install oracle 10g on Suse : if you succes we will be friends lol`
`19:20.51`	`goldstein`	`i dont use suse..never tryied...maybe i will though, because if i cant install it on linux i ll have to work on xp`
`19:21.01`	`ee_lars`	`loool`
`19:22.26`	`ee_lars`	`what is your work distrib goldstein?`
`19:22.34`	`goldstein`	`e:)live`
`19:22.40`	`ee_lars`	`lol`
`19:22.42`	`ee_lars`	`great!`
`19:22.45`	`goldstein`	`i dont actually work a lot..`
`19:23.20`	`ee_lars`	`challenge Thanatermesis for installing oracle on elive`
`19:23.26`	`ee_lars`	`i think it will be possible :)`
`19:23.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`oracle ? i don't have idea... posible :)`
`19:23.54`	`ee_lars`	`lol`
`19:24.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt oracle`
`19:24.06`	`apt`	`Real man uses Oracle. Real men who like bondage and discipline.`
`19:24.16`	`ee_lars`	`mdr`
`19:24.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt you rulez`
`19:24.33`	`apt`	`thanks, Thanatermesis`
`19:24.36`	`ee_lars`	`apt pussy`
`19:24.37`	`apt`	`Read: ee_lars`
`19:24.43`	`ee_lars`	`lol`
`19:25.03`	`goldstein`	`lol`
`19:25.03`	`ee_lars`	`apt answer was GTKRADIANT!`
`19:27.07`	`ee_lars`	`Thanatermesis : i made my gnomebaker and cdrecord updates and now i can burn again my cds :)`
`19:27.12`	`ee_lars`	`is good!`
`19:28.18`	`goldstein`	`ee_lars, maybe it is possible to cheat the installer. it uses a .jar to check OS. i already have unziped the jar thing and now it is just edit the right files.. im downloading eclipse LOL`
`19:28.51`	`goldstein`	`i wish i could program java without eclipse..`
`19:29.01`	`ee_lars`	`loool`
`19:29.06`	`ee_lars`	`i have eclipse to`
`19:29.13`	`ee_lars`	`but i didn't started using it`
`19:29.23`	`ee_lars`	`i'm not a programmer :s`
`19:29.29`	`goldstein`	`it rules...really works for you..`
`19:29.53`	`ee_lars`	`yeah i know`
`19:30.12`	`ee_lars`	`it's a bit slow on my nuclear machine lol`
`19:30.37`	`goldstein`	`it is java:/`
`19:30.46`	`ee_lars`	`dererk : can you put 512 mo ram in the ssh bus for me? :):)`
`19:30.55`	`ee_lars`	`yes goldstein`
`19:31.42`	`goldstein`	`i think this is strange: i have this 4year old machine with 256mb ram`
`19:31.56`	`goldstein`	`lately is was really slow and i went to check`
`19:32.05`	`goldstein`	`and it has only 192`
`19:32.05`	`ee_lars`	`me to : 256 ram`
`19:32.19`	`goldstein`	`the slots are 128 each`
`19:32.24`	`ee_lars`	`lol`
`19:32.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`ee_lars perfect :) look the version of gnomebaker and you understand why you record better now ;)`
`19:32.55`	`goldstein`	`this is not my main cmputer so im not very worryed..`
`19:33.20`	`ee_lars`	`goldstein : it's my main :(`
`19:33.32`	`ee_lars`	`my other is a pII with only 192 mo lol`
`19:33.50`	`goldstein`	`but is it normal to lose half a slot?`
`19:33.54`	`goldstein`	`lol`
`19:34.13`	`ee_lars`	`lol`
`19:34.16`	`goldstein`	`i mean, i ve lost slots before, but complete ones..`
`19:34.19`	`ee_lars`	`Thanatermesis : GnomeBaker 0.5.0`
`19:34.25`	`ee_lars`	`strange`
`19:34.38`	`ee_lars`	`i prey for not loosing slotes`
`19:35.00`	`goldstein`	`:)`
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`19:36.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:37.36`	`ee_lars`	`humhum`
`19:37.38`	`ee_lars`	`i check`
`19:38.50`	`ee_lars`	`yeah Thanatermesis`
`19:38.53`	`ee_lars`	`that's great!`
`19:38.55`	`ee_lars`	`thx`
`19:38.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`;)`
`19:39.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`with this version, you need to record all things now :)`
`19:39.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`s/need/can`
`19:39.38`	`ee_lars`	`:p`
`19:40.18`	`ee_lars`	`i bought some dvds i will make some backup tries`
`19:40.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`with the Elive version you can record DVDs, because has a dependency for it, no in the "normal" version`
`19:41.21`	`ee_lars`	`Gnomebaker powered by Thanatermesis :)`
`19:42.20`	`goldstein`	`i cannot record dvds...`
`19:42.31`	`goldstein`	`wish i had a recoder..`
`19:42.42`	`ee_lars`	`i've to leave now : byebye everybody -> have a good evening`
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`20:00.10`	`innovati`	`hola a todos!`
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`20:00.25`	`innovati`	`hola roxville`
`20:03.28`	`roxville`	`hey innovati how are ya?`
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`20:03.41`	`innovati`	`awesome, has Tanne been coming on here frequently still?`
`20:03.47`	`roxville`	`i can't stay coz my daughter is having a fit, sorry! lol`
`20:03.52`	`innovati`	`k`
`20:03.54`	`innovati`	`see ya`
`20:04.03`	`roxville`	`no, have not seen tanner in a while`
`20:04.49`	`Elive_user`	`hi, me again. i made an upgrade today and after that it doesn't boot into entrance... it says smth like 'not launching entrance - its not set as default'`
`20:06.26`	`Elive_user`	`can any1 help on that?`
`20:07.21`	`innovati`	`what do you need help with?`
`20:07.57`	`Elive_user`	`i want to start with entrance and after upgrade it says that it is not set as default - how do i set it?..`
`20:08.05`	`innovati`	`ooh, I'm not that smart`
`20:08.07`	`innovati`	`sorry`
`20:08.14`	`manveru`	`dpkg-reconfigure entrance`
`20:08.52`	`manveru`	`or if that doesn't work 'dpkg -r entrance' (write what it wants) and anfterwards 'apt-get install entrance' (this brought it up at my computer again)`
`20:09.21`	`Elive_user`	`ooooookkkay. i'll try :D`
`20:09.42`	`manveru`	`he could have done that in e as well...`
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`20:17.43`	`Elive_user`	`ok. that helped... but... there's no e17 option left... only e16`
`20:18.01`	`manveru`	`huh?`
`20:19.04`	`Elive_user`	`in entrance when i login there that button to choose which session to start - e16 or e17`
`20:19.25`	`Elive_user`	`there's only e16 now (there definately was e17 before upgrade)`
`20:19.27`	`manveru`	`yeah`
`20:19.30`	`manveru`	`hmm`
`20:19.42`	`manveru`	`run as root 'elive-skel all'`
`20:19.49`	`Elive_user`	`ok...`
`20:19.54`	`shadoi`	`You need to put the enlightenment.desktop file back in the xsessions dir`
`20:20.08`	`manveru`	`listen to him`
`20:20.45`	`Elive_user`	`where is the file and where is the dir? :D`
`20:21.08`	`manveru`	`run 'updatedb' as root and 'locate enlightenment.desktop'`
`20:21.31`	`Elive_user`	`ok. already doin' it`
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`20:24.15`	`Elive_user`	`i came back to say thank you! it helped!`
`20:26.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, Elive_user`
`20:26.34`	`manveru`	`np, thank shadoi :)`
`20:26.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`you say "no e17 option"...`
`20:26.53`	`Elive_user`	`already solved :D`
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`20:28.54`	`Elive_user`	`anddd... i tried to run e17genmenu - all goes well, but the last line says: "symbol lookup error: e17genmenu: updefined symbol: engrave_eet_output' - is this good or?..`
`20:29.24`	`Thanatermesis_`	`argh`
`20:29.26`	`Thanatermesis_`	`Elive_user , what you don't have exactly ? the icon of e17 in the menu ? or you don't have the menu ¿?`
`20:30.14`	`Thanatermesis_`	`if you are in Elive you don't need e17genmenu... all applications of Elive is included in the menus and with the better way posible`
`20:31.28`	`Elive_user`	`ok. now youre frightening me... i did think that i was annoying, but... ok, let it be an error then.`
`20:33.49`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es frightening`
`20:34.01`	`Thanatermesis_`	`o_O'`
`20:35.36`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es ok. now youre frightening me... i did think that i was annoying, but... ok, let it be an error then.`
`20:35.52`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es now you are frightening me... i did think that i was annoying, but... ok, let it be an error then.`
`20:36.07`	`Thanatermesis_`	`(...)`
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`20:41.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`manveru i have scaried Elive_user ?`
`20:42.29`	`manveru`	`not exactly`
`20:42.49`	`manveru`	`i guess it was a lack of understanding from both sides`
`20:43.29`	`manveru`	`and maybe he took the 'argh' wrong.... wich i guess was because of your logout`
`20:44.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
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`20:44.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`i "argh" about my ISP connection`
`20:44.23`	`manveru`	`i do that everyday :)`
`20:44.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`i only have tried to understand the f**** problem of the e17 in entrance...`
`20:44.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`persons speak "no e17 now"`
`20:45.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`im only know one problem about this...`
`20:45.39`	`manveru`	`hmm, there was a file missing`
`20:45.53`	`manveru`	`"shadoi You need to put the enlightenment.desktop file back in the xsessions dir"`
`20:46.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`Submitted by Thanatermesis on Sat, 2005-11-19 05:42.`
`20:46.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`The bug is reported, for this moments, you can solve this with clicking in the right part of the "button", make a look to the green rectangle in this screenshot, you can posible to click in all the green "imaginary" rectangle part: http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/entrance-bug-menusession.jpg`
`20:46.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is the only of i know...`
`20:47.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://edevelop.org/node/1774`
`20:48.19`	`manveru`	`hmm`
`20:48.29`	`manveru`	`yeah - for me reinstalling entrance did the trick`
`20:49.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes manveru ... because this is why i asked.. the menu don't appears because the icon in the green rectangle make's a "accept events" and don't pass the events to the real part (green rectangle) for show the menu.. because this, you don't have the menu appears... shadoi has speak about the .desktop file, i look this also in my system and i need to know if the problem is the "green rectangle" or this file`
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`20:50.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`this file is located in e17 package... im pretty sure of this person HAS this file in the good place`
`20:50.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`then the problem... is only this "menu" bug...`
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`20:50.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`20:51.00`	`manveru`	`hmm`
`20:51.02`	`sinplomo`	`yooo`
`20:51.07`	`manveru`	`he said it was fixed after he did copy it`
`20:51.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`manveru he has copied ? where has copied ?`
`20:51.52`	`manveru`	`to the xsessions-dir`
`20:52.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`the green rectangle is little confusion, you can try 20 times for show the menu and you don't look... but is posible to you only try one time and you obtain the menu`
`20:52.41`	`manveru`	`hmm`
`20:52.50`	`manveru`	`well, i have sometimes problems clicking on it`
`20:52.56`	`manveru`	`then i click elsewhere and it works again`
`20:53.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`manveru i don't know... because this im asked about the problem... but he has go scaried.. then i don't know what is the real problem... if is not the green rectangle, i don't posible to repair then`
`20:53.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`----- The bug is reported, for this moments, you can solve this with clicking in the right part of the "button", make a look to the green rectangle in this screenshot, you can posible to click in all the green "imaginary" rectangle part: http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/entrance-bug-menusession.jpg`
`20:54.19`	`manveru`	`exactly`
`20:54.39`	`shadoi`	`Thanatermesis: his problem was he removed entrance which deleted the .desktop file than e17 put in place. So when he installed it, it had to be put back.`
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`20:54.48`	`shadoi`	`s/than/that/`
`20:54.56`	`shadoi`	`it's not the menu display glitch you're talking about.`
`20:56.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`what is this place of the .desktop files ? is /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop ? this place is provided from e17 package`
`20:57.47`	`manveru`	`i told him to search it with locate`
`20:58.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`i only found this file in this directory`
`20:58.08`	`manveru`	`yeah - here too`
`20:58.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`its only this directory shadoi ?`
`20:59.11`	`shadoi`	`I can't remember, let me look.`
`21:00.29`	`shadoi`	`yeah that's where it goes.`
`21:00.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, its included in e17 package`
`21:01.02`	`shadoi`	`yup`
`21:01.22`	`shadoi`	`entrance postinst shouldn't clear it out, if it is that is the bug.`
`21:01.31`	`shadoi`	`err.. postrm`
`21:03.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, entrance control files of the package don't touch this files shadoi`
`21:03.18`	`shadoi`	`didn't think so`
`21:03.23`	`shadoi`	`I have no idea why it gets removed.`
`21:06.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`we cant posible to understand better with the person scaried :)`
`21:07.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`the problem with the green part shadoi not is the theme, if yes, i have fixed it :), the icon part for show the menus... don't provides from the theme, is from the code, and the code set events to it, or not put below the "green" part, then, if you click in the exact image part, you don't have the menus..`
`21:07.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`you obtain the menu only around the image`
`21:07.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`i don't have idea how to fix from the code :/`
`21:08.57`	`shadoi`	`Thanatermesis: sounds like you need to detail the problem and send it to the e-devel list. Or xcomp directly.`
`21:09.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`shadoi i have explain to xcomp, he has understand good the problem :)`
`21:09.37`	`shadoi`	`ok cool`
`21:09.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`im only waiting news.. :)`
`21:10.13`	`shadoi`	`Thanatermesis: keep bothering him, and/or sending emails to e-devel to remind people.`
`21:10.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`and looks same to because a change in the code (before, the same theme not have this problem)`
`21:11.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`you are true shadoi ... i send a email to e-devel now then ? i have also informe to xcomp... from the 18`
`21:11.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`(date)`
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`21:13.14`	`Elive_user`	`when i run ethemes it says segmentation fgault.`
`21:14.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user don't scary about me... i have say "argh" about my ISP connection, i have asked to you about the entrance problem because i need to understand what is the exact problem for try to solve`
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`21:15.07`	`Elive_user`	`entrance is no problem anymore :D`
`21:15.17`	`Elive_user`	`and now i have that seg fault...`
`21:15.24`	`Elive_user`	`i'm stumbled :D`
`21:15.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user how you have solved the problem of entrance ? you have copied a file in any place ?`
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`21:16.50`	`Elive_user`	`Thanatermesis, no, the files were ok, BUT (btw, a bug to my mind) the button in entrance where the session can be changed from e16 to 17 is buggy`
`21:17.09`	`manveru`	`oh no... not again...`
`21:17.11`	`manveru`	`^^`
`21:17.14`	`Elive_user`	`it has clickable area a little to the right of the text`
`21:17.41`	`Elive_user`	`i mean [button here]<have to click here>`
`21:17.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user this is because the themes not are "to date of today", and the e17 code changes all day, the only theme of you are totally sure of works perfectly, is the default, and very posible the "elive" theme... but normally, you can't have the segfaults if you make to day the e17 package and the themes`
`21:18.40`	`Elive_user`	`ok, tell me how i reverse the thing :D just uninstall other themes?`
`21:18.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user exact.. the button is buggy, look my post in this page, the bug is explained and included a screenshot about how to solve "temporally" ;) http://edevelop.org/node/1774`
`21:19.27`	`Elive_user`	`ok.`
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`21:22.17`	`Elive_user`	`ok. i'll watch my Simpsons now and go to bed. cya tomorrow guys!`
`21:22.35`	`roxville`	`heat uot`
`21:22.50`	`roxville`	`sorry, don't have the right dots`
`21:22.55`	`Elive_user`	`:D sulle kah!`
`21:22.58`	`Elive_user`	`np :D`
`21:23.02`	`roxville`	`:)`
`21:23.40`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, he is right. when elpanel first starts up, it's totally black`
`21:24.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville what is the version of efl-all of you have ?`
`21:24.19`	`roxville`	`you have to click in the blackness to see something`
`21:24.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is not normal`
`21:24.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`is posible to are a change in the edje lib`
`21:24.42`	`roxville`	`lol, you're kidding!`
`21:25.49`	`manveru`	`Thanatermesis, for me it is working well`
`21:25.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`kidding ? why ?`
`21:25.57`	`manveru`	`Thanatermesis, only had to install sudo`
`21:26.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`manveru roxville , what version of efl-all have ?`
`21:26.05`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis this is not normal`
`21:26.12`	`roxville`	`roxville lol, you're kidding!`
`21:26.20`	`roxville`	`it was a joke`
`21:26.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah, hehe, ok, i understand now ;)`
`21:26.44`	`manveru`	`cvs20051128`
`21:27.41`	`roxville`	`manveru, how'd you find out?`
`21:27.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville apt-cache policy package ;)`
`21:27.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`look in "installed"`
`21:30.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`manveru then... works for you because you have updated today :)`
`21:30.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`i have look a modification in the edje lib`
`21:30.41`	`roxville`	`i'm logged in as user,so..i have to swirch woth ctrl+alt+F1`
`21:30.45`	`manveru`	`Thanatermesis, i update everyday in the morning ^^`
`21:31.58`	`roxville`	`i updated today too`
`21:32.10`	`roxville`	`after i was able to log in as root`
`21:33.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville echo $HOSTNAME`
`21:33.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`cat /etc/hostname`
`21:33.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`show me this 2`
`21:33.34`	`jaime-es`	`Thanatermesis: No existe ese paquete`
`21:33.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`jaime-es :P`
`21:33.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`jaime-es jojojo`
`21:33.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`jaime-es bad bot`
`21:34.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville elpanel gives you a "root terminal" ;)`
`21:37.21`	`roxville`	`elive.homenet`
`21:37.37`	`roxville`	`root@root[/home/chris]$ cat /etc/hostname`
`21:37.37`	`roxville`	`elive`
`21:37.37`	`jaime-es`	`http://livecd.debianitas.net/news.html`
`21:38.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville put in /etc/hostname : elive.homenet`
`21:38.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`or... nomed ?`
`21:38.50`	`roxville`	`why would i put nomed in my hostname?`
`21:39.00`	`roxville`	`hehe`
`21:39.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe, nomed knows better about this than me ;)`
`21:40.30`	`sinplomo`	`_H_, ping`
`21:42.18`	`roxville`	`efl-all is already the newest version.`
`21:43.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt-get update ?`
`21:47.43`	`roxville`	`efl-all_cvs20051128 on it's way into my system`
`21:47.46`	`roxville`	`..................`
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`21:48.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville and hte version of elpanel ?`
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`21:48.35`	`cuc`	`nas`
`21:48.49`	`roxville`	`it's the one from yesterday. it was not upgraded`
`21:49.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok roxville , wait, i build a new edje with the same libs (im posible to have a transitional version of edje of not have included to repo for the actual version of elpanel), and i send the edje of elpanel with this actual version of efl`
`21:49.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`nas cuc`
`21:49.26`	`cuc`	`hola Thanatermesis`
`21:49.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville put this file in /usr/share/elpanel/themes/ http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/tmp/default.edj`
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`21:54.34`	`roxville`	`yep, that's better! :)`
`21:54.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfect :)`
`21:55.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, i add the screensaver feature to elpanel and then i put a new release`
`21:55.27`	`roxville`	`and the new icon`
`21:55.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh, yes`
`21:57.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`icon changed, thanks to remember, i have forgoted ;)`
`22:00.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`with you click in a "menu-icon", the icons for enter in a menu... the icon is turned blue, yes ? blue + zoom -> menu`
`22:00.08`	`dererk`	`Hi all`
`22:00.14`	`dererk`	`Hi roxxie ;)`
`22:00.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`i delete the blue effect for a simple "zoom"`
`22:00.28`	`roxville`	`really?`
`22:00.32`	`roxville`	`hi der!`
`22:00.51`	`roxville`	`dererk, thx for trying to help me earlier`
`22:01.00`	`roxville`	`but i got it taken care of now`
`22:01.21`	`dererk`	`roxville, I can shoot you now :)`
`22:01.27`	`roxville`	`so no spinning cube?`
`22:01.35`	`dererk`	`spinning cube?`
`22:01.37`	`dererk`	`O_o`
`22:02.51`	`dererk`	`roxville, What you mean with spinning cube?`
`22:03.22`	`roxville`	`open elpanel and choose something, and you'll know`
`22:04.04`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, maybe you could have a naked girl with nice tits dancing by instead of the blue spinning cube?`
`22:05.15`	`roxville`	`or, for the latinos, a nice ass`
`22:06.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville spinging cube ? yes, it is changed now with your new icon for ethemes`
`22:06.19`	`dererk`	`xD`
`22:06.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh`
`22:06.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes yes, the spining cube continues`
`22:06.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`but you have the "blue" effect in the "menus" icons (no launcher applications icons)`
`22:06.43`	`dererk`	`You want your girl to kill you roxville ?`
`22:06.56`	`roxville`	`lol`
`22:07.12`	`dererk`	`xD`
`22:07.25`	`roxville`	`oh, the blue...now i see what you mean!`
`22:07.28`	`roxville`	`ok`
`22:08.08`	`goldstein`	`hey dudes talking 'bout girls?`
`22:08.12`	`goldstein`	`lol`
`22:08.19`	`goldstein`	`me is back from dinnah`
`22:08.22`	`roxville`	`no no....`
`22:08.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville the blue effect in the zoom for the MENU icons... do you look this bad ? im not sure...`
`22:09.42`	`goldstein`	`i am upgrading now:)`
`22:10.11`	`goldstein`	`Thanatermesis, is this upgrade elive .4?`
`22:11.03`	`dererk`	`xDDD`
`22:11.05`	`dererk`	`goldstein, xD`
`22:11.16`	`roxville`	`0.4? goldstein where have you been? we are working on elive 0.9 now!`
`22:11.29`	`dererk`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd`
`22:11.39`	`goldstein`	`i ve been flyin' dude..`
`22:11.48`	`goldstein`	`oh i've been flyin`
`22:11.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`22:12.03`	`goldstein`	`so what version do i have?`
`22:12.08`	`dererk`	`xDDDD`
`22:12.10`	`goldstein`	`lol`
`22:12.12`	`roxville`	`you been flyin' back in time?`
`22:12.19`	`dererk`	`roxville, xD`
`22:12.31`	`dererk`	`STOP MAKING ME LAUGHTING roxville !`
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`22:12.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`22:12.50`	`dererk`	`My stomach is in pain`
`22:12.54`	`goldstein`	`so elive 1.0 RC1 will be my xmas present?`
`22:12.56`	`dererk`	`:-S`
`22:12.56`	`roxville`	`seriously goldstein , ithere are a couple of nice upgrades... but we are not at 0.4 yet`
`22:13.07`	`dererk`	`xD`
`22:13.09`	`goldstein`	`:/`
`22:13.15`	`goldstein`	`liar..`
`22:13.18`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, esa seria una buena promocion verdad?`
`22:13.29`	`roxville`	`so... WE NEED PPL TO UPGRADE AND SHARE THE BUGS AND STUFF`
`22:13.29`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Realease XMas!`
`22:13.33`	`dererk`	`Digo`
`22:13.36`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, "Realease XMas"`
`22:13.48`	`roxville`	`real ease?`
`22:13.57`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:14.00`	`sinplomo`	`:P`
`22:14.05`	`roxville`	`LOLOL`
`22:14.15`	`dererk`	`roxville, Isn't that why we are here? dispite the fact of sharing knoledge! :D`
`22:14.22`	`sinplomo`	`report the bugs may be the correct word ...`
`22:14.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`<roxville> so... WE NEED PPL TO UPGRADE AND SHARE THE BUGS AND STUFF`
`22:14.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`exact`
`22:14.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`we need more beta-tests for fastly the developement`
`22:14.55`	`dererk`	`roxville, You speak worse english than I do !! xDDD`
`22:15.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`of course, needs beta-tests BEFORE the next release, and try all things for search bugs and repair before the release`
`22:15.16`	`roxville`	`so ppl, keep a back-up of your files... somewhere else :)`
`22:15.17`	`sinplomo`	`roxville, look Thanatermesis' english ... <ironic> It's perfect </ironic>`
`22:16.06`	`roxville`	`he was thinking about changing his nick`
`22:16.12`	`roxville`	`to tharzan`
`22:16.19`	`sinplomo`	`LOOOL`
`22:16.37`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, you have to learn me tarzanian !!`
`22:16.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`22:16.49`	`cuc`	`xDD`
`22:16.50`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, me tarzan, you chita !`
`22:17.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`no sinplomo, mi tarzan, yu chita`
`22:17.49`	`sinplomo`	`:P`
`22:18.01`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, u jane`
`22:18.04`	`sinplomo`	`:P`
`22:18.10`	`roxville`	`LOL`
`22:18.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`no, apt jane`
`22:18.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt jane`
`22:18.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt you are jane`
`22:18.20`	`apt`	`I think you lost me on that one, Thanatermesis`
`22:18.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt do you like jane ?`
`22:18.33`	`apt`	`yes, I like jane.`
`22:18.46`	`sinplomo`	`apt, jane`
`22:18.47`	`apt`	`well, jane is Thanatermesis`
`22:18.48`	`dererk`	`xD`
`22:19.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt sinplomo`
`22:19.02`	`apt`	`sinplomo is, like, a moroccan geek`
`22:19.06`	`dererk`	`xDD`
`22:19.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`22:19.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt forgot jane`
`22:19.18`	`dererk`	`apt, sinplomo es un cabron! xD`
`22:19.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt forget jane`
`22:19.19`	`apt`	`i forgot jane, Thanatermesis`
`22:19.31`	`roxville`	`he spills cous-cous on his keyboard`
`22:19.39`	`sinplomo`	`roxville, lol`
`22:19.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`22:19.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt jane`
`22:19.50`	`apt`	`well, jane is sinplomo`
`22:19.50`	`dererk`	`roxville, xD`
`22:19.53`	`dererk`	`xD`
`22:19.58`	`sinplomo`	`lol`
`22:20.11`	`dererk`	`loling`
`22:20.11`	`dererk`	`loling`
`22:20.13`	`dererk`	`loling`
`22:20.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt forget jane please`
`22:20.16`	`apt`	`Thanatermesis: i didn't have anything called 'jane please' to forget`
`22:20.20`	`roxville`	`wtf is feh?`
`22:20.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt forget jane`
`22:20.22`	`apt`	`Thanatermesis: i forgot jane`
`22:20.25`	`sinplomo`	`and chita ?`
`22:20.29`	`sinplomo`	`apt, chita`
`22:20.31`	`apt`	`somebody said chita was Thanatermesis`
`22:20.34`	`dererk`	`apt, chita is roxville`
`22:20.35`	`apt`	`...but chita is already something else...`
`22:20.35`	`dererk`	`xD`
`22:20.40`	`sinplomo`	`LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL`
`22:20.45`	`roxville`	`haha!`
`22:20.45`	`dererk`	`apt, chita?`
`22:20.46`	`apt`	`it has been said that chita is Thanatermesis`
`22:20.49`	`dererk`	`xDDD`
`22:21.22`	`dererk`	`Kerchak?`
`22:21.23`	`sinplomo`	`apt, roxville`
`22:21.25`	`apt`	`hmm... roxville is an Elive lover`
`22:21.25`	`dererk`	`apt, kerchak?`
`22:21.32`	`dererk`	`apt, no!`
`22:21.35`	`apt`	`no! is, like, this a bad thing?`
`22:21.40`	`dererk`	`apt, no, roxville is beer lover`
`22:21.43`	`apt`	`dererk: okay`
`22:21.45`	`dererk`	`xD`
`22:21.54`	`dererk`	`apt, roxville`
`22:21.55`	`apt`	`well, roxville is beer lover`
`22:21.57`	`dererk`	`xDDD`
`22:22.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt forget jane`
`22:22.14`	`apt`	`i didn't have anything called 'jane' to forget, Thanatermesis`
`22:22.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt jane e`
`22:22.19`	`apt`	`no, i don't forget jane, jane is simplomo !!!`
`22:22.31`	`dererk`	`apt, forget roxville`
`22:22.31`	`apt`	`dererk: i didn't have anything called 'roxville ' to forget`
`22:22.32`	`dererk`	`:)`
`22:22.35`	`dererk`	`:0`
`22:22.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt forget jane please`
`22:22.37`	`apt`	`i didn't have anything called 'jane please' to forget, Thanatermesis`
`22:22.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt forget jane`
`22:22.47`	`apt`	`i didn't have anything called 'jane' to forget, Thanatermesis`
`22:23.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt jane you know ?`
`22:23.01`	`apt`	`no, i don't forget jane, jane is simplomo !!!`
`22:23.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`22:23.20`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, roxville is having some beers now!`
`22:23.32`	`dererk`	`I told you apt, roxville loves beer!`
`22:24.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`22:24.00`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Entonces, no te gusta un titulo como "Release XMas"?`
`22:24.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt jane is sinplomo ?`
`22:24.09`	`apt`	`no, i don't forget jane, jane is simplomo !!!`
`22:24.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt sinplomo`
`22:24.16`	`apt`	`sinplomo is, like, jane`
`22:24.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk si, asi sera ;) para xmas ;)`
`22:25.13`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, pero digo, algun bg con los logos de Elive XMas en rojo y amarillo`
`22:25.15`	`roxville`	`hakuna matata...`
`22:25.17`	`dererk`	`Como la vez?`
`22:25.17`	`dererk`	`:D`
`22:25.19`	`dererk`	`roxville, xD`
`22:25.25`	`dererk`	`roxville, Timon and Pumba`
`22:25.25`	`dererk`	`xD`
`22:25.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`no dererk ... que pasara 6 meses mas tarde ? en pleno verano ? ;)`
`22:25.32`	`roxville`	`y feliz navidad`
`22:25.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt hakuna matata`
`22:25.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt pumba`
`22:25.56`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Como que 6 meses?`
`22:26.00`	`dererk`	`O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O`
`22:26.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk a ver... que haras con una Elive con un arbol de navidad en pleno verano ?`
`22:26.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso es malo... porque la iso sera para siempre... no podras borrar el "navidad" de el`
`22:26.57`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Por eso digo, un background que tenga algun fondo de esos`
`22:27.03`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Y algo que no pase de moda :)`
`22:28.13`	`roxville`	`apt x fr en yep , j'ai juste une ubuntu`
`22:28.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`no dererk ... no me gusta la idea, eso se "caduca"`
`22:28.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`o acaso no has visto lo pesado que era xine-ui con el logo de navidad ? ;)`
`22:29.08`	`dererk`	`:-(`
`22:29.15`	`dererk`	`wop manveru`
`22:30.04`	`manveru`	`man, ruby rulez`
`22:30.23`	`manveru`	`just tought a friend of mine in about 1 hour all the basics....`
`22:30.29`	`manveru`	`taught`
`22:32.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es taught`
`22:35.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`manveru do you search for screensaver, correct ?`
`22:36.41`	`manveru`	`yeah`
`22:36.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, im adding this feature in elpanel.. then, you are my beta-tester ;)`
`22:37.10`	`manveru`	`yeah!`
`22:37.21`	`manveru`	`will i get crashes?`
`22:37.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`why you get a crash ?`
`22:37.47`	`manveru`	`i don't know`
`22:37.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`it don't makes a crash for you ;)`
`22:37.58`	`manveru`	`i would only switch irc to my other computer then`
`22:38.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`but... you don't are in elive, yes ?`
`22:38.10`	`manveru`	`no`
`22:38.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, you have used "elive-skel" in your system ?`
`22:38.21`	`manveru`	`yeah`
`22:38.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`its ok then`
`22:42.03`	`manveru`	`ok, go on - what do i have to do?`
`22:43.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`only wait of i finish this new feature ;)`
`22:49.13`	`manveru`	`btw - how was the radiostream-program called on elive?`
`22:52.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es was`
`22:52.33`	`manveru`	`est`
`22:52.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`its in the topic`
`22:53.01`	`manveru`	`no.... the program`
`22:53.10`	`manveru`	`there is a program with lots of radio-stations`
`22:53.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`22:53.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`streamtunner`
`22:53.41`	`manveru`	`exactly :)`
`22:53.42`	`manveru`	`thx`
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`23:14.12`	`goldstein`	`Thanatermesis, Drive buf size : 1460224 = 1426 KB`
`23:14.13`	`goldstein`	`FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB`
`23:14.13`	`goldstein`	`cdrecord: Resource temporarily unavailable. Cannot malloc CD-Text write buffer.`
`23:14.32`	`goldstein`	`gnomebaker still doesnt work:/`
`23:14.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`update cdrecord goldstein`
`23:14.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`and gnomebaker also if has a candidate`
`23:15.23`	`goldstein`	`i just dist-ipgraded..`
`23:16.07`	`goldstein`	`no candidates..`
`23:16.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`humm... looks strange`
`23:16.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`what kernel ?`
`23:18.04`	`goldstein`	`whatever came with elive cd..`
`23:18.31`	`goldstein`	`never got to upgrade it:p`
`23:20.39`	`goldstein`	`hum, i upgraded but didnt reboot. was it required?`
`23:21.23`	`manveru`	`only if you install a new kernel`
`23:21.51`	`goldstein`	`nope..-`
`23:22.07`	`*** join/#elive dererk (n=dererk@unaffiliated/dererk)`
`23:23.41`	`goldstein`	`hum, i managed to make it work as root..`
`23:24.39`	`goldstein`	`bu t i also did dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord`
`23:24.43`	`goldstein`	`maybe it was it`
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