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| 00:04.22 | tomyeah | hi |
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| 00:05.51 | justin82 | hey hey |
| 00:06.08 | tomyeah | i tried to install elive by synaptic just by installing all preinstalled modules and having em updated, i restarted all services and build the lic6 (or so) new, than i let it create a new entrance ... after all was done i restarted and wasnt able to login anymore, now im trying the apt-get update and hope its doin better |
| 00:07.02 | tomyeah | is there any other hint when updating ? i was just looking on the wiki http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-index.php?page=Update |
| 00:07.11 | Thanatermesis | tried to install Elive by synaptic ? |
| 00:07.23 | tomyeah | tried to install the update ;) |
| 00:07.24 | Thanatermesis | "install elive" ? |
| 00:07.40 | Thanatermesis | mmh, tried to update your Elive system ? |
| 00:07.45 | tomyeah | yes |
| 00:08.02 | Thanatermesis | ok, entrance has a little changes in the configuration files |
| 00:08.06 | tomyeah | i did it now like 3 times, with and without building a new entrance or building new libc |
| 00:08.21 | Thanatermesis | but the debian packages ask about upgrade this /etc files... you have answer "no" |
| 00:08.27 | Thanatermesis | you need to reinstall totally entrance |
| 00:08.35 | Thanatermesis | apt-get remove --purge entrance |
| 00:08.37 | Thanatermesis | and after, install |
| 00:08.40 | tomyeah | ok |
| 00:08.52 | tomyeah | cant u add that to the wiki ? |
| 00:09.13 | Thanatermesis | you look then a "hard security issue" if you remove the entrance package... don't worry :) |
| 00:10.11 | Thanatermesis | yes, the wiki needs a little maintain, its not really maintained, no persons write in it |
| 00:11.04 | Thanatermesis | try first if works and if you don't need more things... i change the wiki about this, tomyeah |
| 00:11.10 | tomyeah | when i used synaptic it took me like 10 minutes to update, now with apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade its running for like 1 hour |
| 00:11.50 | tomyeah | will "apt-get remove --purge entrance" reinstall entrance or just remove, im a very beginner with linux |
| 00:12.15 | tomyeah | i guess elive will attract lots of linux beginners just because it looks so good |
| 00:12.24 | Thanatermesis | synaptic posible don't use "dist-upgrade" but only "upgrade" |
| 00:12.40 | Thanatermesis | hehe, yes, posible :) |
| 00:12.59 | Thanatermesis | you need to launch this command from one console with root: "apt-get remove --purge entrance" |
| 00:13.07 | tomyeah | "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" is that downloading just elive stuff or everything i saw in synaptics ? |
| 00:13.46 | tomyeah | im at get524 now |
| 00:14.03 | tomyeah | and wonder how long it will take |
| 00:14.57 | Thanatermesis | download all posible things included in your sources.list, also for debian packages (elive is based in debian) |
| 00:15.18 | tomyeah | hm i hope my space will be enough |
| 00:15.20 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, based in debian but no similar to ubuntu, ubuntu is "BASED" but diferent... Elive USE the debian packages |
| 00:15.53 | Thanatermesis | if you have a problem with entrance, you only need to solve for entrance (for this moments), don't need to upgrade all system |
| 00:16.03 | tomyeah | when i got all things ready ill be writing some newbie article about how to install it with vmplayer on windows xp ;) |
| 00:16.06 | Thanatermesis | in any case.. the next release is very posible coming soon :) |
| 00:17.20 | tomyeah | so i could just update all the "green marked" items in the elive section of synaptics, when asked build the libc and make a new entrance, than --purge it and thats all ? than restart and all is running ? |
| 00:18.21 | Thanatermesis | dont use synaptics |
| 00:18.31 | Thanatermesis | only launch the command from a console of i have writed before |
| 00:18.38 | tomyeah | shouldnt i do like "apt-get entrance" or something like that after the purge ? |
| 00:18.57 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 00:19.14 | Thanatermesis | you are now in what ? in the "broken Elive installation" or in another new clean ? |
| 00:19.14 | tomyeah | i mean "remove" will just remove but ot reinstall it right ? |
| 00:19.38 | tomyeah | im having my clean one, i have a backup of a fresh hdinstall |
| 00:19.45 | tomyeah | oh the update is done |
| 00:20.02 | tomyeah | config debconf |
| 00:20.31 | Thanatermesis | mmh, forget all.. close synaptic and make this steps: "apt-get remove --purge entrance" and after is removed, "apt-get install entrance" , this is all :) |
| 00:20.37 | tomyeah | ok |
| 00:20.49 | tomyeah | im now ready with the download of the update |
| 00:20.59 | tomyeah | and answering the dialogs |
| 00:21.10 | tomyeah | in the wiki they said i just should press enter for all |
| 00:21.38 | tomyeah | ill make a few screenshots ;) |
| 00:23.20 | tomyeah | im sitting like 2days without break on this now ;) |
| 00:23.35 | tomyeah | i tried building the cvs before on various distris |
| 00:26.05 | Thanatermesis | Elive not is only a distro "with" enlightenment... |
| 00:26.19 | Thanatermesis | has also a lot of things for make a "diferent distro" :) |
| 00:26.37 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, when you has finished to make all working... i recomend to you to install "elpanel" ;) |
| 00:27.07 | tomyeah | i tried it on redhat as4 redhat9 and gentoo to build the e17 stuff |
| 00:27.46 | tomyeah | http://tomyeah.com/images/elive-update-dialog.jpg |
| 00:27.50 | tomyeah | im that far now |
| 00:28.26 | tomyeah | thats the first dialog after "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 00:29.43 | Thanatermesis | why upgrade now ? |
| 00:29.51 | Thanatermesis | you need to fix for entrance only now, yes ? |
| 00:29.56 | tomyeah | nono |
| 00:30.04 | tomyeah | i needed to fix entrance when i used synaptics |
| 00:30.12 | tomyeah | but i already deleted that image |
| 00:30.16 | Thanatermesis | first fix from this way |
| 00:30.21 | Thanatermesis | after, upgrade normally the system |
| 00:30.25 | Thanatermesis | if not, you have the same problem.. |
| 00:30.30 | tomyeah | damn ;) |
| 00:30.39 | tomyeah | i dont wanna run the whole stuff for hours again |
| 00:30.54 | tomyeah | now it askes for upgrade the glibc |
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| 00:31.03 | Thanatermesis | then, only make the entrance stuff first and after works, upgrade normally ;) |
| 00:31.17 | isotonic | heyas |
| 00:31.27 | tomyeah | is there no chance to continue the upgrade now ? |
| 00:31.48 | Thanatermesis | is better to fix first the entrance stuff |
| 00:32.33 | isotonic | why as root when im trying to uninstall add packages i got error "no command to execute" ? |
| 00:32.45 | isotonic | choosing from menu, clicking |
| 00:33.53 | Thanatermesis | isotonic in... where ? |
| 00:33.59 | tomyeah | so i do hdinstall, than apt-get remove --purge entrance , than apt-get install entrance , than apt-get update && apt-get upgrade (not dist-upgrade) , is that all correct so far ? |
| 00:34.09 | isotonic | Thanatermesis, elive |
| 00:34.25 | Thanatermesis | of course isotonic :) |
| 00:34.35 | Thanatermesis | but... about what you are speaking ? |
| 00:35.11 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah for this moments only uninstall and install entrance, then, reboot and if works, upgrade the system without problems :) |
| 00:35.35 | isotonic | to be short, none of the menus are working, left click on desktop, config, elive for eg. |
| 00:35.56 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis: the upgrade always asks for building a glibc and building a new entrance, what should i answer there ? |
| 00:37.13 | Thanatermesis | isotonic what menus ? |
| 00:37.29 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah no upgrade entrance with this way |
| 00:37.29 | isotonic | mouse menus |
| 00:37.35 | Thanatermesis | you need first to remove with purge |
| 00:37.47 | Thanatermesis | isotonic in e17 ? |
| 00:38.02 | isotonic | yes sir |
| 00:39.00 | isotonic | i cant open for eg. control pannel |
| 00:39.36 | isotonic | or network connection |
| 00:40.14 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, what control panel ? the same to the liveCD mode or "elpanel" ? |
| 00:40.45 | isotonic | i installed elive to hdd |
| 00:40.51 | isotonic | *20 min ago* |
| 00:41.20 | isotonic | its my first time using it, and i like it (except the xchat in spanis) ;o) |
| 00:41.28 | isotonic | *h |
| 00:41.49 | isotonic | i cant see anywhere elpanel |
| 00:41.56 | isotonic | where should be ? |
| 00:44.25 | Thanatermesis | apt-get install elpanel :) |
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| 00:45.30 | isotonic | um... im lost... maybe because i have no ide about linux... |
| 00:45.32 | saCUL_too | hey there isotonic - did you get elive working |
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| 00:45.41 | isotonic | heyas saCUL_too |
| 00:45.54 | isotonic | yes, but lots of things not working, simple user or root |
| 00:46.22 | saCUL_too | isotonic - you should install the gnome-system-tools package |
| 00:46.24 | isotonic | thanks again for the help you provided yesterday |
| 00:46.33 | saCUL_too | isotonic, no problems |
| 00:46.57 | isotonic | saCUL_too, how to do that ? |
| 00:47.13 | saCUL_too | can you get a eterm window as root? |
| 00:47.19 | saCUL_too | if so type synaptic |
| 00:47.20 | isotonic | sure |
| 00:47.33 | saCUL_too | it launches a program management program |
| 00:47.43 | tomyeah | how can i set qwertz keymap from command line ? ive read something about loadkeymap or so |
| 00:47.45 | saCUL_too | software management even |
| 00:48.01 | saCUL_too | you can search for all sorts of different software and install it |
| 00:48.03 | isotonic | true, its open now |
| 00:48.27 | isotonic | Thanatermesis, you gonna release 0.4 with an irc client ? |
| 00:48.48 | isotonic | or im mistaken and you re not the right guy to ask about |
| 00:49.18 | saCUL_too | search for gnome-sytem-tools |
| 00:49.31 | isotonic | ok, thanks ;o) |
| 00:49.43 | saCUL_too | right click on it and select mark for installation |
| 00:49.46 | Thanatermesis | isotonic with elpanel, you can upgrade xchat2 configuration for not have in spanish |
| 00:50.02 | saCUL_too | then click on apply |
| 00:50.07 | Thanatermesis | saCUL_too gnome-system-tools.. ? all stuff is in last version of elpanel :) |
| 00:50.18 | isotonic | i dont like xchat, i preffer something like irssi or bitchx |
| 00:50.27 | saCUL_too | Thanatermesis, :-) but he hasn't updated |
| 00:50.41 | saCUL_too | isotonic, search for irssi or bitchx using synaptic |
| 00:51.03 | isotonic | true, is what im doing now (and uninstalling office) |
| 00:51.14 | saCUL_too | Thanatermesis, morning |
| 00:51.37 | Thanatermesis | morning saCUL_too :) |
| 00:52.11 | saCUL_too | saCUL_too, likes elpanels startup sounds :-) |
| 00:53.38 | isotonic | thanks guys for the help |
| 00:53.39 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis: apt-get install entrance gave me "E: Brocken packages" |
| 00:54.04 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah you have removed first ? |
| 00:54.19 | tomyeah | sure, ill give u a screenshot |
| 00:54.21 | tomyeah | with log |
| 00:54.35 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 00:55.13 | isotonic | i also get some errors downloading packages |
| 00:55.18 | saCUL_too | Thanatermesis, is your problems list getting shorter |
| 00:55.34 | isotonic | filename changed or that packages not available anymore |
| 00:55.48 | saCUL_too | isotonic, press reload button on synaptic |
| 00:55.56 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis http://tomyeah.com/images/elive-after-purge-install.jpg |
| 00:56.22 | Thanatermesis | not really saCUL_too ... i can0't posible to install this tests of elive, i have segfaults in the installtion of the installer :/ |
| 00:56.23 | tomyeah | i miss typed the first time but than it was the right command ;) |
| 00:56.49 | saCUL_too | Thanatermesis, hey that sucks - can you debug the seqfaults? |
| 00:57.09 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah apt-get update first |
| 00:57.15 | tomyeah | lol |
| 00:57.18 | Thanatermesis | not easy saCUL_too ... very hard :( |
| 00:57.52 | saCUL_too | Thanatermesis, who wrote the installer - some morphix guy? |
| 00:58.03 | Thanatermesis | yep, the leader of morphix |
| 00:58.14 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis: "apt-get update" than purge remove entrance and than install entrance ? |
| 00:58.15 | Thanatermesis | but he need really more motivation for work... |
| 00:58.35 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah entrance is deleted now ? |
| 00:58.39 | tomyeah | yes |
| 00:58.43 | Thanatermesis | ok, now, apt-get update |
| 00:58.47 | Thanatermesis | and after, apt-get install entrance |
| 00:59.13 | tomyeah | ok, update running |
| 00:59.36 | tomyeah | i guess ill be sitting the next week here until it runs fine |
| 00:59.44 | saCUL | hmmm betterer |
| 01:00.46 | tomyeah | i knew linux is difficult but not that difficult ;) |
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| 01:01.07 | tomyeah | somehow impossible to accomplish for usual pc users |
| 01:01.41 | isotonic | yey, got bitchx installed |
| 01:01.42 | tomyeah | needs a long time until mac and windows users will choose linux i guess |
| 01:02.02 | saCUL | tomyeah, depends what you want to do - its as simple or complex as you want to make it |
| 01:02.06 | saCUL | isotonic, cool |
| 01:02.15 | isotonic | anyone know how to make the font bigger in terminal window ? |
| 01:02.32 | tomyeah | install update run ;) sound not very complicated at the first time ;) |
| 01:02.44 | Thanatermesis | isotonic shift + "+" |
| 01:03.16 | isotonic | thanks ;o) |
| 01:03.44 | isotonic | and changing font ? |
| 01:03.44 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis: now on the update it asks again if i "want to upgrade glibc now ?" |
| 01:04.15 | tomyeah | can someone say yes or no ? |
| 01:04.26 | isotonic | "yes or no" |
| 01:04.29 | tomyeah | ;) |
| 01:04.39 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah of course.. yes :) |
| 01:05.10 | tomyeah | if it was "ofcourse" it wouldnt have asked me ! |
| 01:05.13 | tomyeah | hehe |
| 01:05.15 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah also if entrance dont works, you don't need to reinstall.. only login in the console and repair ;) |
| 01:05.47 | tomyeah | i could repair it with some glue or what+ |
| 01:05.50 | saCUL | ok - I better get some work done |
| 01:06.11 | tomyeah | ok update is done |
| 01:07.03 | tomyeah | on apt-get install entrance , it said: entrance is already newest version |
| 01:07.16 | tomyeah | i guess the update installed it new already |
| 01:07.30 | tomyeah | shall i purge and install again or may i reboot now ? |
| 01:07.48 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah apt-cache policy entrance what version shows you installed ? |
| 01:07.55 | tomyeah | or should i "elive-skel upgrade" from the wiki ? |
| 01:08.39 | tomyeah | cvs 20051128 |
| 01:08.42 | Thanatermesis | elive-skel is a after thing ;) |
| 01:09.06 | Thanatermesis | oks, its the good version... try to reboot... if you have problems... return from the liveCD mode (don't reinstall the system) |
| 01:09.42 | tomyeah | how can i boot from the livecd if the bootmanager is already working ? |
| 01:11.04 | tomyeah | i guess in linux its not allowed to simply reset the system |
| 01:11.19 | Thanatermesis | selecting to boot from the CD and no from the hard disk |
| 01:11.52 | tomyeah | but how |
| 01:12.02 | Thanatermesis | seting in the BIOS |
| 01:12.03 | tomyeah | first thing i see is the bootmanager |
| 01:12.25 | Thanatermesis | or try the touch's "F12, F8, ESC, F1" in the boot... normally F12 or F8 |
| 01:12.33 | Thanatermesis | press one of this keys all time |
| 01:12.39 | Thanatermesis | same to a stressed person :) |
| 01:12.53 | tomyeah | ok ;) |
| 01:12.57 | tomyeah | now it loaded |
| 01:13.06 | tomyeah | becoming entranced: ... error |
| 01:13.27 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 01:13.34 | Thanatermesis | you have reboot ? |
| 01:14.34 | tomyeah | http://tomyeah.com/images/elive-update-error.jpg |
| 01:14.39 | tomyeah | i rebooted yes |
| 01:14.42 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 01:14.46 | Thanatermesis | log with root in a console |
| 01:15.13 | tomyeah | im logged in |
| 01:15.58 | Thanatermesis | ouch |
| 01:15.59 | Thanatermesis | libssl |
| 01:16.00 | Thanatermesis | wait |
| 01:16.48 | Thanatermesis | apt-get install libssl0.9.8 |
| 01:17.11 | tomyeah | http://tomyeah.com/images/elive-update-error-after.jpg |
| 01:17.17 | tomyeah | looks like this now |
| 01:18.17 | tomyeah | downloading now |
| 01:18.33 | tomyeah | done |
| 01:18.37 | Thanatermesis | now: |
| 01:18.43 | Thanatermesis | /etc/init.d/entrance start |
| 01:19.53 | tomyeah | magic ;) |
| 01:20.28 | tomyeah | will is restart now as usual ? |
| 01:20.31 | tomyeah | it |
| 01:20.46 | Thanatermesis | it works for the next reboot ;) |
| 01:20.54 | Thanatermesis | ok, another thing.. |
| 01:20.58 | Thanatermesis | type with root: |
| 01:21.03 | Thanatermesis | /etc/init.d/entrance stop |
| 01:21.09 | Thanatermesis | and logout from the graphical system |
| 01:21.57 | tomyeah | i did "leave entrance" |
| 01:22.14 | tomyeah | now i see some bugged screen with parts of the old console |
| 01:22.31 | Thanatermesis | you have nvidia card ? |
| 01:22.40 | tomyeah | yes but installed vesa driver |
| 01:22.56 | Thanatermesis | with vesa ? problems with the version of nvidia ? |
| 01:23.05 | tomyeah | nono |
| 01:23.09 | tomyeah | im using vmplayer |
| 01:23.16 | tomyeah | they just support standard vesa |
| 01:23.28 | tomyeah | shall i "reboot" now ? |
| 01:24.05 | tomyeah | the console is still open .... |
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| 01:24.24 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 01:24.32 | Thanatermesis | try first: apt-get remove nvidia-glx |
| 01:24.34 | tomyeah | dont say "mmmh" ;) |
| 01:24.42 | tomyeah | nono |
| 01:24.55 | tomyeah | the system would never detect any nvidia card |
| 01:24.57 | Thanatermesis | if you use vesa, you don't need it |
| 01:25.03 | dats | hello |
| 01:25.05 | tomyeah | its some virtual machine with only some vesa driver |
| 01:25.06 | Thanatermesis | hello dats |
| 01:25.28 | isotonic | hi |
| 01:25.43 | tomyeah | ok i removed it |
| 01:25.48 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah ok, type "chmod -x /etc/init.d/entrance" |
| 01:26.24 | tomyeah | done |
| 01:26.36 | Thanatermesis | ok, reboot now |
| 01:28.07 | tomyeah | btw, why is the standard console (from the button in taskbar) with white background and white font ? ;) |
| 01:28.30 | Thanatermesis | hehe, good question |
| 01:28.31 | tomyeah | now i gotto login again in the console, no e17 bootscreen |
| 01:28.47 | tomyeah | logged in as root |
| 01:28.57 | Thanatermesis | yeah |
| 01:28.57 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 01:29.00 | Thanatermesis | install elpanel now |
| 01:29.25 | tomyeah | ok |
| 01:29.32 | tomyeah | running |
| 01:29.41 | Thanatermesis | what version of e17-theme-elive you have ? |
| 01:29.57 | tomyeah | its all standard from the 0.3 fresh hdinstall |
| 01:30.01 | tomyeah | "default" |
| 01:30.14 | Thanatermesis | ah |
| 01:30.26 | Thanatermesis | ok, after install elpanel, type: apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 01:30.43 | tomyeah | i hope that wont take so long |
| 01:32.31 | tomyeah | sometimes the download server is quite fast 550kb/s , now its like 160 kb/s |
| 01:36.10 | tomyeah | will it get the 540 items now again ? |
| 01:36.18 | tomyeah | omg ;) |
| 01:37.15 | Thanatermesis | yes, upgrade the system :) |
| 01:37.31 | Thanatermesis | and after... you only make some things and the system is perfect ;) |
| 01:37.34 | tomyeah | the most simple is to put the virtual disc image online to the internet for public use, i dont want to explain all this prior steps ;) |
| 01:38.06 | Thanatermesis | nah, you are using 0.3, its little old and have modifications... the 0.4 is more complete ;) |
| 01:38.19 | Thanatermesis | (if im posible to release any day...) |
| 01:38.35 | tomyeah | how can you afford spending that much time ? |
| 01:38.47 | tomyeah | do you live of donations ? hehe |
| 01:39.03 | isotonic | umjm ? 0.4 is released ? |
| 01:39.20 | tomyeah | i guess not isotonic |
| 01:39.36 | tomyeah | otherwise he wouldnt let me make through all this pain |
| 01:39.39 | tomyeah | ;) |
| 01:39.50 | Thanatermesis | hehe, no.. not very donations :/ |
| 01:40.27 | tomyeah | if the install and upgrade becomes more simple id recommend it to other people as their first linux system, just because it looks so nice ;) |
| 01:40.45 | isotonic | true |
| 01:40.50 | Thanatermesis | i don't know, but posible in the future Elive is perfectly working and i can posible to spend fully on it obtaining work with, selling dedicated versions of Elive of.. or dont know |
| 01:41.16 | tomyeah | i had a friend of mine here today, some linux freak, we tried to build the cvs on redhat9, he said he waited for so long for e17 ;) and he cant wait to get some final |
| 01:41.40 | Thanatermesis | more long = better ;) |
| 01:41.52 | tomyeah | i hope so |
| 01:42.04 | tomyeah | so many people are involved by this project already, designing and such |
| 01:42.25 | tomyeah | i guess its gonna be big one day |
| 01:42.33 | tomyeah | real alternative to win and mac |
| 01:43.21 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 01:43.31 | tomyeah | you dont think so ? |
| 01:43.38 | Thanatermesis | posible... :) |
| 01:43.47 | Thanatermesis | only the time know's it :) |
| 01:44.22 | isotonic | what about imprelenting an option, for eg i have "games" and i dont want any, instead to go to any pannel/packages manager to have a menu to can choose uninstall/all or just the game, is hard to do that ? |
| 01:44.30 | isotonic | implementing |
| 01:44.30 | tomyeah | is there any easy guide on how to build windows and menus and icons on elive ? |
| 01:44.43 | tomyeah | i tried to figure it out but its not as easy as gnome or kde |
| 01:44.49 | Thanatermesis | isotonic you speak about a "anaconda" mode of installation... |
| 01:44.53 | Thanatermesis | Elive not is based on it |
| 01:45.26 | Thanatermesis | is true of is posible to the ppl dont like to have some pacakges... but is really more fast and easy to install all with this way, Elive is easy |
| 01:45.27 | isotonic | erm, im _very_ new on linux world |
| 01:45.38 | Thanatermesis | if the person don't like some packages.. a good way is unstalling after |
| 01:45.38 | tomyeah | me too isotonic ;) |
| 01:46.07 | tomyeah | id rather prefer some 3dvd package with everything installed but working than some "choose details but buggy" thing |
| 01:46.19 | isotonic | being new probably means "stupid questions" ;o) |
| 01:46.27 | tomyeah | ;) |
| 01:46.50 | tomyeah | when u ask like "do you know linux" all people run away, because they know the pain of beeing questioned |
| 01:47.40 | tomyeah | there are just too many distributions, if you search on google for help you find always the solution for the wrong distribution |
| 01:47.44 | isotonic | heh |
| 01:48.07 | isotonic | Thanatermesis except blender what other 3d package you tried ? |
| 01:48.21 | tomyeah | i found this oml script for installing e17 on Openbase Linux |
| 01:48.33 | isotonic | i mean to install and if crashes or not |
| 01:48.57 | Thanatermesis | except blender... i don't know anothers... do you have look to cinelerra? :) |
| 01:49.11 | tomyeah | isotonic: do you use an other pc to install elive or did you install it on your only pc ? |
| 01:49.29 | isotonic | i do graphics in 3d studio max wich doesnt run on linux |
| 01:49.50 | isotonic | thats why i cant switch to linux completelly, and because of photoshop too |
| 01:50.11 | tomyeah | im so happy that i found this virtual machine stuff, beeing able to install linux while running windows on the same machine ;) |
| 01:50.26 | isotonic | only in my pc, i gave my live cd to someone else in house, other giu to try it |
| 01:50.33 | Thanatermesis | isotonic photoshop -> gimp |
| 01:50.41 | Thanatermesis | 3dmax... blender is not good ? :) |
| 01:50.46 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah ugprade finished ? |
| 01:50.52 | tomyeah | but gimp requieres lots of new learning |
| 01:51.03 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah and photoshop ;) |
| 01:51.04 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis: is that a joke ? last time it took like 1 hour |
| 01:51.06 | isotonic | i dont wann say bad about gimp... but i dont like it ;o) |
| 01:51.24 | isotonic | and... blender is far far away from 3ds max |
| 01:51.27 | tomyeah | isotonic: ya, if u once used photoshop than gimp looks actually like a gimp ;) |
| 01:51.43 | Thanatermesis | hehe, ok tomyeah ... but remember to after speak me... for finish some things or the "upgradeation" not is complete and not all works ;) |
| 01:52.02 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis: will you be here for some hours ? |
| 01:52.13 | isotonic | im not into heavy industry, i do make money with 3dsmax and i better switch to maya (wich runs on linux) not blender |
| 01:52.21 | Thanatermesis | i have look very good things on blender... and have some features included BETTER than maya :) |
| 01:52.28 | tomyeah | if u r gone Thanatermesis i will just power down my virtual machine and go on when u r back ;) |
| 01:52.30 | Thanatermesis | yes tomyeah |
| 01:52.50 | tomyeah | no more experiments now, 3 days must be enough to install e17 |
| 01:53.02 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 01:53.24 | isotonic | Thanatermesis sowtware are like ppl, some have big muscle some fast brain some have bad teeth |
| 01:53.46 | Thanatermesis | isotonic http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/cinelerra2-0.jpg |
| 01:53.51 | tomyeah | i tried to bug a few unix irc channels with my e17 problems, but they all ignored me "if u begin with linux, dont start with the most complicated around" ;) |
| 01:54.24 | isotonic | maybe blender excel in few thing wich can make the work easy, but when you have to make big production you cant wayt 2 weeks to render a 2 min movie |
| 01:54.44 | tomyeah | haha |
| 01:54.52 | Thanatermesis | hehehe, yes |
| 01:55.20 | tomyeah | its like modeling a 3d movie with pov ray text editor based :)= |
| 01:55.46 | isotonic | ok, www.discreet.com and look somwhere there what movies/games they did with 3d studio max ;o) |
| 01:56.08 | Thanatermesis | isotonic do you have look my link ? |
| 01:56.42 | isotonic | yes, i see some repetitive models ;oP |
| 01:57.30 | isotonic | if that is a rendered image or movie post/production |
| 01:58.18 | isotonic | http://noneed.info/personal |
| 01:58.29 | isotonic | i have some of my modeld there, kinda old |
| 01:58.38 | isotonic | models |
| 01:58.50 | isotonic | im ino modeling not texturing/cgi or animation |
| 01:58.58 | isotonic | bah, i cant type |
| 02:00.29 | Thanatermesis | its cinelerra 2, included for the next release... do you know cinelerra ? |
| 02:00.45 | Thanatermesis | wow, nice graphics ! |
| 02:01.19 | isotonic | Thanatermesis no i dont know it |
| 02:01.24 | isotonic | thanks |
| 02:02.35 | isotonic | (there is my room too, messy as usual) |
| 02:03.10 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis: is there any good looking filemanager for elive yet ? this evidence looked crappy somehow |
| 02:03.58 | tomyeah | when my mouse rested the screen always flashed |
| 02:04.08 | Thanatermesis | isotonic http://elive.xasein.com/screenshots/video3.avi |
| 02:04.32 | Thanatermesis | isotonic i don't know about cinelerra... but only testing it, i have maked this "video-test" ;) |
| 02:05.03 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah xfe or evidence... |
| 02:05.35 | isotonic | nice ;o) |
| 02:05.49 | tomyeah | is xfe the "tree view" i get from evidence ? |
| 02:06.01 | isotonic | i would like to have a filebrowser like that |
| 02:06.04 | Thanatermesis | no, its a "windows like" file manager |
| 02:06.05 | isotonic | ;oP |
| 02:06.48 | tomyeah | lol that video |
| 02:06.59 | tomyeah | reminds me of cheap "hacker movies" |
| 02:07.20 | tomyeah | can u work fast with such a 3d view ? |
| 02:07.38 | isotonic | nope but its not boring |
| 02:07.59 | tomyeah | the cuts in between were cool |
| 02:08.04 | tomyeah | from password swordfish |
| 02:08.11 | isotonic | if you get pics shown in "folder" or movies star playing when mouse approach its nice |
| 02:09.26 | isotonic | or even mp3`s "far away" to make an idea about the singer, i do have lots of folders with mp3`s where is not set the name, or mp3`s clled "tracknr.mp3" |
| 02:09.33 | Thanatermesis | the "3d view" its a file manager... included in Elive :) |
| 02:09.41 | Thanatermesis | its better a toy than a file-manager :) |
| 02:09.47 | tomyeah | hehe |
| 02:10.01 | Thanatermesis | yes, some images is from the "swordfish" |
| 02:10.14 | isotonic | hows called the mnager ? |
| 02:10.16 | isotonic | manager* |
| 02:10.20 | Thanatermesis | tdfsb |
| 02:10.20 | tomyeah | the simply white theme made me try e17, but when i tested it my e17 crashed at once ;) |
| 02:11.17 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis: why do the skins always crash in 0.3 ? |
| 02:11.24 | tomyeah | only the default skin works properly |
| 02:11.30 | isotonic | "mark for installation" |
| 02:11.52 | Thanatermesis | what skins ? |
| 02:11.56 | isotonic | ok, how to start it ? ;oP |
| 02:12.37 | Thanatermesis | because the e17 is in heavy developement.. only the default theme is to date same to e17 |
| 02:13.07 | tomyeah | http://www.clan-hash.com/gulivert/?p=15 |
| 02:13.09 | tomyeah | this theme |
| 02:13.24 | tomyeah | thats my final goal |
| 02:13.28 | tomyeah | to make that running |
| 02:13.37 | tomyeah | on some 24" 16:10 screen |
| 02:13.45 | tomyeah | must look very stylish ;) |
| 02:14.54 | tomyeah | upgrade is done Thanatermesis ;) |
| 02:15.00 | tomyeah | now i have all these dialogs again |
| 02:15.05 | tomyeah | debconf |
| 02:15.42 | Thanatermesis | ok... continue ;) |
| 02:15.42 | tomyeah | ill be pressing enter on all dialogs right ? |
| 02:16.20 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 02:16.24 | Thanatermesis | why do you like this theme ? |
| 02:16.36 | tomyeah | its so pure ;) |
| 02:16.36 | Thanatermesis | yeah, press enter, don't worry ;) |
| 02:16.52 | tomyeah | dont u like it ? |
| 02:16.57 | Thanatermesis | i know the owner... it is also included in Elive (needs to install the package) |
| 02:17.02 | tomyeah | my windows looks almost the same |
| 02:17.16 | Thanatermesis | yes... but really white, i like better the dark :) |
| 02:17.38 | tomyeah | now there comes questions in the console , lkike Xsession and so |
| 02:17.43 | tomyeah | i guess i choose always default ? |
| 02:17.47 | Thanatermesis | this is my old desktop: http://thana.no-ip.org/shots/e16-2.jpg |
| 02:18.01 | Thanatermesis | yes, all default |
| 02:18.06 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis: content can be colorful but not the gui ;) |
| 02:18.42 | isotonic | desktop backgrounds eats lots of ram ;o) |
| 02:19.38 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es content can be colorful but not the gui |
| 02:20.03 | tomyeah | lo |
| 02:20.03 | tomyeah | l |
| 02:20.17 | isotonic | apt x en es test |
| 02:20.19 | tomyeah | sounds not bad |
| 02:20.36 | isotonic | eggs ;o) |
| 02:20.43 | tomyeah | apt x es en haste luego amigo |
| 02:20.46 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah i don't understand... what about the contents and the gui ? |
| 02:20.51 | isotonic | hehe |
| 02:20.59 | tomyeah | apt x es en hasta luego amigo |
| 02:21.08 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 02:21.24 | isotonic | does he "speak" romanian too ? |
| 02:21.30 | isotonic | <- is romanian |
| 02:21.33 | Thanatermesis | isotonic what about the animated backgrounds ? :) |
| 02:21.39 | tomyeah | apt x es en chochones grande |
| 02:21.55 | Thanatermesis | no speak romanian |
| 02:22.01 | Thanatermesis | but japanese and russian :) |
| 02:22.05 | isotonic | in my XP i hate theme and fancy effects off |
| 02:22.07 | Thanatermesis | apt x en ja hello boy |
| 02:22.09 | isotonic | have* |
| 02:22.19 | tomyeah | lol |
| 02:22.24 | Thanatermesis | apt good bot |
| 02:22.24 | apt | Thanatermesis: aw, gee |
| 02:22.31 | isotonic | i do like graphic, smooth/creamy colors |
| 02:22.36 | tomyeah | apt x ja en baka |
| 02:22.53 | tomyeah | isotonic: me too |
| 02:23.12 | tomyeah | i love mac osx panther |
| 02:23.13 | Thanatermesis | but.. the user needs a great and beatifull interface for make the better work :) |
| 02:23.18 | isotonic | but you dont have time to contemplate "wow nice buttons" if you have to make money |
| 02:23.22 | lala | tomyeah i love mac osx panther <= mejor tiger :P |
| 02:23.30 | tomyeah | ;)) |
| 02:23.30 | lala | tomyeah i love mac osx panther <= better tiger :P |
| 02:23.41 | tomyeah | who is lala |
| 02:23.43 | Thanatermesis | hahah, yes |
| 02:23.51 | isotonic | i mean... i think as "working from home as freelancer" |
| 02:23.57 | Thanatermesis | loooool |
| 02:24.03 | Thanatermesis | badblody incognito ! |
| 02:24.07 | isotonic | i need stabile os and fast ;o) |
| 02:24.19 | badblody | jejejeje |
| 02:24.26 | badblody | wolas :P |
| 02:24.33 | Thanatermesis | badblody ati support i nthe next release ;) |
| 02:25.01 | Thanatermesis | isotonic then... forget windows, its the first of you need to eliminate of the list :) |
| 02:25.10 | isotonic | elive is good taste graphic |
| 02:25.20 | tomyeah | isotonic: but not on all skins ;) |
| 02:25.29 | saCUL | isotonic, how did osx86 run for you |
| 02:25.45 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis: upgrade is done ! |
| 02:25.54 | tomyeah | in console mode now |
| 02:26.00 | isotonic | i like the default one, im happy with, why i should turn my wife to take it from behind ? ;o) |
| 02:26.13 | tomyeah | ;))) |
| 02:26.16 | isotonic | saCUL slow |
| 02:26.39 | isotonic | way too slow to can be productive |
| 02:26.48 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis: next steps ? |
| 02:26.57 | isotonic | guys who stops to an alpha OS are just nuts (my opinion) |
| 02:27.48 | tomyeah | sometimes people join projects in that way, they tried some alpha, liked it and started to work for it |
| 02:27.54 | saCUL | but the longest alpha process in software history |
| 02:28.06 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah ok... |
| 02:28.11 | isotonic | and vista MS is way too... i dont like it ;o) |
| 02:28.15 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah with root: elive-skel all |
| 02:28.41 | tomyeah | done |
| 02:28.51 | isotonic | <- thinks to stop talking about something else in an elive channel |
| 02:29.32 | saCUL | isotonic, were you running osx in vmware? |
| 02:29.36 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah mmmh... |
| 02:29.48 | isotonic | no, the HDD where is now elive installed |
| 02:29.54 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah install "e17-theme-elive" |
| 02:29.58 | saCUL | hah |
| 02:30.01 | isotonic | "native" |
| 02:30.11 | saCUL | understood |
| 02:30.30 | isotonic | i tried the vmware image too, slower than the native one |
| 02:30.49 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis: e17-theme-elive is alreay the newest version. |
| 02:30.50 | saCUL | isotonic, what processor are u running |
| 02:30.51 | isotonic | i dont keep an os just because is beautiful ;o) |
| 02:31.36 | isotonic | is there any command in terminal window to find out ? (not because i dont know, im just curious) |
| 02:31.50 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah then, apt-get install e17-theme-milky |
| 02:31.54 | tomyeah | isotonic: mc is nice |
| 02:32.37 | isotonic | no, i mean something like "system info" in windows, proc speed. ram. graphic card... |
| 02:32.50 | Thanatermesis | isotonic the commandline is the most powerfull thing in linux... all of your need from the console ;) |
| 02:32.53 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis: some packages could not be athenticated |
| 02:33.12 | isotonic | <- trying "beer" |
| 02:33.20 | *** join/#elive _H_ (n=_H_@62-43-9-217.user.ono.com) |
| 02:33.33 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah bah, dont worry |
| 02:33.43 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis: the simply white theme as well ? |
| 02:33.49 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 02:33.56 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis: whats the name |
| 02:34.02 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah then, apt-get install e17-theme-milky |
| 02:34.03 | Thanatermesis | this |
| 02:34.12 | tomyeah | no thats a diffrent one |
| 02:34.21 | tomyeah | milky and simply white r 2 dfiffrent themes |
| 02:34.21 | saCUL | 8--I--< |
| 02:34.27 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 02:34.48 | isotonic | glasses ? ;o) |
| 02:34.51 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah apt-cache search e17 theme |
| 02:35.08 | saCUL | isotonic, yes unless he has breasts for eyes!!! |
| 02:35.33 | tomyeah | got it ;) |
| 02:35.35 | Thanatermesis | saCUL do you have a video ? |
| 02:35.39 | Thanatermesis | file* |
| 02:35.49 | saCUL | mp4 |
| 02:35.54 | saCUL | or avi |
| 02:36.10 | saCUL | or mov |
| 02:36.11 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis: what now ? |
| 02:36.16 | isotonic | saCUL p4 3,2Ghz 1Gb/ram nVidea fx5200 128 ram |
| 02:36.19 | Thanatermesis | saCUL try this: mplayer -vo aa http://elive.xasein.com/screenshots/video3.avi |
| 02:37.24 | saCUL | cool Thanatermesis |
| 02:37.54 | Thanatermesis | but in any case.. you can posible to play videos in pure console... no in this mode... "fully colors" and good pixels ;) |
| 02:38.06 | tomyeah | ;) |
| 02:38.10 | saCUL | Thanatermesis, that is true enough |
| 02:38.24 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah chmod +x /etc/init.d/entrance |
| 02:39.03 | Thanatermesis | saCUL what is the name of your user ? |
| 02:39.14 | Thanatermesis | ops, no saCUL ... tomyeah |
| 02:39.43 | isotonic | Thanatermesis you gonna release 0.4 til the end of dec. ? |
| 02:39.53 | tomyeah | root@elive[~]$ |
| 02:40.10 | Thanatermesis | im not sure isotonic ... i have a LOT of problems trying to make working this version :( |
| 02:40.21 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah your normal user |
| 02:40.27 | tomyeah | tom |
| 02:40.29 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 02:40.36 | tomyeah | but i can make a new user |
| 02:40.47 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah: adduser tom plugdev |
| 02:40.47 | tomyeah | just for making it clean ;) |
| 02:40.55 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah: adduser hal plugdev |
| 02:40.58 | Thanatermesis | this two |
| 02:41.31 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah dont worry... with the command "elive-skel all" from root without X, you have maked all users configurations clean ;) |
| 02:41.48 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah and after all this... reboot... you have a very similar 0.4 installed now :) |
| 02:42.13 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... boh... only 2-3 things |
| 02:42.25 | tomyeah | im still doubting that it will run ;) |
| 02:44.44 | tomyeah | cant choose e-17 from the menu |
| 02:44.49 | tomyeah | just e-16 |
| 02:44.58 | isotonic | is there any gmail shell extension for linux ? |
| 02:45.06 | tomyeah | ah now |
| 02:45.19 | tomyeah | the button action pixmap was moved a lil above the button |
| 02:45.57 | Thanatermesis | yes tomyeah, this is a little bug in entrance.. but not very important |
| 02:46.06 | tomyeah | "configuration upgraded" |
| 02:46.13 | tomyeah | wow |
| 02:46.33 | tomyeah | i think i will crash my user account now by selecting some theme |
| 02:46.36 | tomyeah | ;) |
| 02:46.57 | tomyeah | i can only select elive.edj and default |
| 02:47.11 | tomyeah | i guess i have to move the themes to .e/e/themes |
| 02:47.26 | Thanatermesis | no |
| 02:47.29 | Thanatermesis | use elpanel ;) |
| 02:48.09 | Thanatermesis | e17-theme-simplywhite <-- this is the name of the theme of you search, do you have installed ? |
| 02:48.21 | tomyeah | wow |
| 02:48.29 | tomyeah | yes |
| 02:48.42 | tomyeah | elpanel looks cool ;) |
| 02:48.46 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 02:49.08 | Thanatermesis | a lot of features in it :) |
| 02:49.17 | tomyeah | just the text display is too slow |
| 02:49.26 | tomyeah | bugs to wait for the text to scroll in |
| 02:50.20 | Thanatermesis | the text of down is slow ? |
| 02:50.41 | tomyeah | i clicked on "keyboard" |
| 02:50.50 | tomyeah | than some wierd text came up in the console |
| 02:50.58 | tomyeah | edje launcher blabla |
| 02:51.03 | Thanatermesis | mmh |
| 02:51.16 | tomyeah | i wanted to set qwertz keyboard |
| 02:51.35 | Thanatermesis | don't launchs ? |
| 02:51.46 | tomyeah | not really |
| 02:52.05 | tomyeah | just trying second time |
| 02:52.06 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 02:52.19 | Thanatermesis | do you have the "keybconf" package installed ? |
| 02:52.31 | tomyeah | no clue |
| 02:52.36 | tomyeah | u told me what to install |
| 02:52.40 | tomyeah | ;) |
| 02:52.51 | Thanatermesis | but is a dependency of elpanel... |
| 02:52.56 | Thanatermesis | you don't have it installed ? |
| 02:53.02 | tomyeah | there is some wierd text |
| 02:53.03 | Thanatermesis | try to launch from a console: keybconfig |
| 02:53.13 | Thanatermesis | can make a screenshot ? |
| 02:53.25 | tomyeah | one sec |
| 02:54.45 | tomyeah | http://tomyeah.com/images/elive-update-keyboard.jpg |
| 02:55.04 | tomyeah | the text on the to left came after clicking on "keyboard" |
| 02:55.08 | tomyeah | top left |
| 02:55.28 | Thanatermesis | ahh |
| 02:55.32 | tomyeah | looks like some virus ;) |
| 02:55.36 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 02:55.53 | tomyeah | on windows messages like that r usually virus |
| 02:55.55 | tomyeah | hehe |
| 02:56.00 | Thanatermesis | you need the user in your sudoers |
| 02:56.08 | Thanatermesis | launch a terminal with root... |
| 02:56.13 | tomyeah | sudoers ? |
| 02:56.19 | tomyeah | ok |
| 02:56.24 | Thanatermesis | scite /etc/sudoers |
| 02:56.43 | Thanatermesis | and add this line in the final: |
| 02:56.47 | Thanatermesis | tom ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 02:57.05 | Thanatermesis | and try again elpanel :) |
| 02:57.11 | tomyeah | gtk warning: cannot open display |
| 02:57.23 | Thanatermesis | no launch elpanel from root, only from normal user |
| 02:57.30 | tomyeah | scite |
| 02:57.34 | tomyeah | was that |
| 02:57.53 | Thanatermesis | its a comand |
| 02:57.56 | Thanatermesis | scite /etc/sudoers |
| 02:58.12 | tomyeah | yes i know |
| 02:58.15 | tomyeah | ;) |
| 02:58.23 | tomyeah | and than the gtk warning appeared |
| 02:58.32 | tomyeah | i tried launching elpanel from root now |
| 02:58.38 | tomyeah | and got some crazy errors |
| 02:58.45 | tomyeah | ecore error |
| 02:58.56 | tomyeah | 7 ecore errors |
| 02:59.10 | tomyeah | "now go fix your code, tut tut tut" |
| 02:59.12 | tomyeah | lol |
| 02:59.16 | tomyeah | its a virus |
| 03:00.06 | tomyeah | i wont get this thing working ;) |
| 03:00.25 | Thanatermesis | launch from normal user |
| 03:00.52 | tomyeah | elpanel is now loaded from normal user |
| 03:01.39 | Thanatermesis | ok, joy it ;) |
| 03:09.15 | *** join/#elive roxville (n=chris@pcp02417389pcs.jamsis01.sc.comcast.net) |
| 03:10.08 | tomyeah | how do i switch the keyboatrd layout from console ? i tried installing keyboard-rg , but didnt work |
| 03:11.06 | roxville | you can type elpanel, which opens elpanel... or... |
| 03:11.20 | roxville | click on the elpanel icon in ibar or engage |
| 03:11.21 | tomyeah | elpanel seems not to work with keyboard |
| 03:11.38 | roxville | oh, hold on... you are in livecd mode? |
| 03:11.51 | tomyeah | no, i just upgraded my hdinstall |
| 03:12.03 | quidam- | Thanatermesis, EMERGENCIA¡¡¡ xDDDD naaaaaaa no es algo tan grave pero si un gran problema |
| 03:12.06 | quidam- | pero es del msn |
| 03:12.06 | roxville | ok |
| 03:12.07 | quidam- | :P |
| 03:12.09 | tomyeah | in livecd it was easy to change the keyboard layout |
| 03:12.32 | roxville | when you open elpanel... behind the "user" is there not a keyboard icon? |
| 03:12.46 | tomyeah | there is, but the icon doesnt work as it should |
| 03:12.48 | quidam- | Thanatermesis, falsa alarma xD |
| 03:12.51 | roxville | ok |
| 03:12.52 | quidam- | no hay problema |
| 03:12.52 | quidam- | xD |
| 03:12.55 | tomyeah | the program doesnt start |
| 03:13.02 | roxville | then: apt-get install keybconf |
| 03:13.09 | tomyeah | ok |
| 03:13.36 | tomyeah | just making a backup of the image, dont wanna mess up the fresh install ;) |
| 03:14.10 | roxville | you have to run keybconf as root... but that is the app that elpanel opens when you click that icon |
| 03:14.23 | roxville | good idea :) |
| 03:14.34 | roxville | wish i had done that... |
| 03:15.31 | tomyeah | hehe |
| 03:16.15 | tomyeah | on this e17 there is just happening too much wierd stuff, one wrong command and everything is in endless loop or so |
| 03:16.19 | tomyeah | so better backup ;) |
| 03:16.27 | roxville | yep |
| 03:16.45 | roxville | yeah, i've had my fair share of trouble :) |
| 03:16.51 | tomyeah | haha |
| 03:16.57 | tomyeah | its not fair |
| 03:17.16 | tomyeah | im trying for 3 days now |
| 03:18.47 | roxville | 3 days! i installed the same day 0.3 came out! |
| 03:18.49 | tomyeah | when i try to exec keybconf i get some gtk warning |
| 03:18.58 | roxville | in september some time |
| 03:19.11 | *** join/#elive dererk (n=dererk@unaffiliated/dererk) |
| 03:19.19 | roxville | what gtk warning... about your theme? |
| 03:19.27 | roxville | hiya dererk :) |
| 03:19.34 | tomyeah | ill login as root from boot menu |
| 03:19.49 | roxville | no, just become root from terminal |
| 03:19.55 | saCUL | hey there roxville |
| 03:19.59 | roxville | yo saCUL :) |
| 03:20.18 | saCUL | what have you done to your machine roxville ? |
| 03:20.25 | tomyeah | now it worked |
| 03:20.27 | dererk | Hi there |
| 03:20.48 | roxville | lol saCUL i've been messing it up since the day i got it |
| 03:20.53 | *** join/#elive _H_ (n=_H_@62-43-9-217.user.ono.com) |
| 03:21.01 | roxville | my first mistake was to install suse |
| 03:21.04 | saCUL | hehe - you and me both - |
| 03:21.45 | roxville | dererk, i can't read you... what are you saying? |
| 03:21.49 | roxville | dererk, ? |
| 03:21.54 | tomyeah | my first was redhat enterprise as4 ;) |
| 03:21.55 | roxville | dererk, hello? |
| 03:22.10 | tomyeah | now i gotto find out howto change the theme with elpanel |
| 03:22.16 | roxville | dererk, ? |
| 03:23.08 | tomyeah | roxville: is there a way to install a theme with elpanel |
| 03:23.10 | tomyeah | ? |
| 03:23.27 | roxville | no, not install, just switch |
| 03:23.27 | tomyeah | Thanatermesis mentioned something like that |
| 03:23.39 | tomyeah | how do i switch |
| 03:23.53 | tomyeah | " personal setting upgrade " = |
| 03:23.53 | tomyeah | ? |
| 03:24.14 | roxville | open elpanel, click the "sreen" |
| 03:24.21 | roxville | choose e17 |
| 03:24.30 | roxville | and it's the cube icon |
| 03:24.52 | tomyeah | ah ok |
| 03:25.13 | tomyeah | i did install themes with apt-get but they dont appear in this theme window |
| 03:25.18 | dererk | roxville, my isp cut my conection down every 10' |
| 03:25.36 | tomyeah | dererk: thats evil |
| 03:25.52 | roxville | dererk, you have to pay the bill |
| 03:26.10 | dererk | ¬¬ |
| 03:26.21 | roxville | ok, then you have to copy them to another dir... hold on a sec |
| 03:26.37 | tomyeah | roxville: into .e/e/themes right ? |
| 03:27.14 | roxville | cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes |
| 03:28.35 | *** join/#elive _H_ (n=_H_@62-43-9-217.user.ono.com) |
| 03:28.47 | tomyeah | still no change in the elpanel programm |
| 03:29.04 | roxville | reload e |
| 03:29.11 | roxville | restart e |
| 03:29.24 | tomyeah | u mean restart elpanel ? |
| 03:29.29 | roxville | tomyeah, you should NOT do that as root |
| 03:29.31 | tomyeah | or e17 |
| 03:29.46 | tomyeah | but when doing that as user i get always gtk warnings |
| 03:29.54 | roxville | coz the root user has it's own dir |
| 03:29.58 | tomyeah | with elpanel and simple tools like keybconf |
| 03:30.24 | roxville | keybcons is a system setting that has to be set by root |
| 03:30.41 | roxville | a theme can be applied by any user you have on the system |
| 03:30.44 | tomyeah | i restarted e17 and elpanel |
| 03:30.47 | tomyeah | still no restult |
| 03:30.59 | tomyeah | i just search the theme files and copy em by hgand |
| 03:31.01 | tomyeah | hand |
| 03:31.47 | roxville | hmmm what does the gtk warning say? |
| 03:31.55 | tomyeah | cant remember |
| 03:32.01 | tomyeah | something with ecore |
| 03:32.44 | roxville | hmmm |
| 03:32.52 | roxville | i have never gotten that warning |
| 03:32.58 | roxville | saCUL, any ideas? |
| 03:33.16 | tomyeah | where do get-apt installs usually go to ? |
| 03:33.23 | tomyeah | apt-get ;) |
| 03:33.32 | tomyeah | i cant find the downloaded themes |
| 03:33.53 | roxville | in that cp command i pasted is the path to them |
| 03:34.04 | roxville | and also when you put them |
| 03:34.05 | tomyeah | yes i know |
| 03:34.17 | tomyeah | but somehow they arent there |
| 03:34.31 | tomyeah | im just browsing with mc |
| 03:34.32 | saCUL | roxville, I had to copy some themes from /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ to .e/e/themes/ |
| 03:35.12 | roxville | but tomyeah gets a ecore gtk warning |
| 03:35.28 | saCUL | can he paste the warning |
| 03:35.35 | tomyeah | ill relog |
| 03:35.49 | roxville | you ALWAYS have to do that copying after doing an elive-skel upgrade |
| 03:35.53 | saCUL | I get gtk theme warnings all the time when I launch things like nautilus from the terminal |
| 03:36.12 | roxville | so do i, but not from ecore |
| 03:36.20 | saCUL | roxville, no ... |
| 03:36.39 | saCUL | has he looked at the gtk theme settings in elpanel? |
| 03:36.42 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@pcp0010933400pcs.greenville.ky.nash.comcast.net) |
| 03:36.43 | *** join/#elive Elive_user3 (n=Elive_us@pcp0010933400pcs.greenville.ky.nash.comcast.net) |
| 03:36.51 | *** join/#elive _H_ (n=_H_@62-43-9-217.user.ono.com) |
| 03:37.16 | roxville | i haven't asked him |
| 03:37.29 | tomyeah | doesnt matter |
| 03:37.35 | roxville | tomyeah, did you try to switch gtk theme? |
| 03:37.36 | tomyeah | i just wanna change the theme for now |
| 03:37.39 | roxville | oh, ok |
| 03:37.42 | tomyeah | cant i just download the themes from the website ? |
| 03:37.57 | tomyeah | isnt that the same as apt-get ? |
| 03:38.11 | *** join/#elive _H_ (n=_H_@62-43-9-217.user.ono.com) |
| 03:38.13 | roxville | a lot of the themes are modded and optimized to work with elive |
| 03:38.17 | tomyeah | cant i find out where the theme files are on my system |
| 03:38.32 | tomyeah | with some recursive find command |
| 03:38.39 | tomyeah | simplywhite.edj |
| 03:39.08 | saCUL | tomyeah, do an updatedb as root |
| 03:39.28 | saCUL | when it finishes cataloging do a locate simplywhite.edj |
| 03:40.20 | tomyeah | ok |
| 03:40.41 | tomyeah | no result |
| 03:41.01 | tomyeah | on elive.edj i get results |
| 03:41.06 | *** join/#elive stashhh (n=stashhh@60-164-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 03:41.33 | tomyeah | maybe i should remove --purge the old theme that i cant find |
| 03:41.36 | tomyeah | and reinstall it |
| 03:41.46 | quidam-zZzZ | stashhh, mira esto |
| 03:41.51 | quidam-zZzZ | apt, ubuntu |
| 03:41.53 | apt | methinks ubuntu is has a lot of users because the lot of pornography: http://htmldesign.dk/mostwanted/img/Ubuntu_Josie_1_ed3_800.png http://www.theonelab.com/files/images/thumbnails/ubuntu-startup.jpg http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3843/18427557718e22857e9rb.jpg http://www.madebylane.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-babe.png Woooha ! Im go to ubuntu ! :D~~ |
| 03:42.12 | stashhh | que es? |
| 03:42.22 | quidam-zZzZ | es la respuesta del bot |
| 03:42.26 | stashhh | ah si |
| 03:42.27 | quidam-zZzZ | pero fijate :D |
| 03:42.29 | stashhh | lo habia visto esos |
| 03:42.33 | stashhh | estan buenos |
| 03:42.51 | quidam-zZzZ | si pero dice que ubuntu lo usan muchos por la pornografia jajajaja |
| 03:43.04 | quidam-zZzZ | ahora mira esto |
| 03:43.09 | tomyeah | im logged in as user , changed to su - , tried to execute keybconf from console and got the warning "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display" |
| 03:43.13 | quidam-zZzZ | apt, Mr-Petah |
| 03:43.22 | quidam-zZzZ | o.O |
| 03:43.25 | roxville | they have actually cut down on the "naked" stuff with the latest release.. |
| 03:43.28 | quidam-zZzZ | lo quito :( |
| 03:45.25 | saCUL | tomyeah, open elpanel |
| 03:45.28 | tomyeah | i found the problem, it was the authentication thing when downloading |
| 03:45.29 | saCUL | as normal user |
| 03:45.44 | tomyeah | saCUL: when i do that i get lots of gtk warnings |
| 03:45.54 | saCUL | tomyeah, does it launch |
| 03:46.07 | tomyeah | yes |
| 03:46.17 | saCUL | click on the leftmost icon |
| 03:46.22 | saCUL | clickon 17 |
| 03:46.34 | saCUL | click on the centre icon |
| 03:47.04 | tomyeah | works |
| 03:47.12 | tomyeah | gtk theme change |
| 03:47.17 | tomyeah | 2.0 |
| 03:47.28 | tomyeah | what should i do here |
| 03:47.38 | saCUL | do you have a list of themes |
| 03:47.43 | roxville | choose industrial |
| 03:47.58 | tomyeah | the new e17 theme just appeared in that elpanel theme selector but when i clicked on it nothing happened, just an error in the console |
| 03:48.24 | tomyeah | applied and ok , gtk industrial |
| 03:49.06 | roxville | that is the default gtk theme, just to make sure |
| 03:49.19 | roxville | we're narrowing down possible probs |
| 03:49.42 | saCUL | tomyeah, right click on the desktop and select themes |
| 03:49.54 | saCUL | sorry left click |
| 03:50.09 | saCUL | should be a list of installed themes |
| 03:50.14 | saCUL | select one |
| 03:50.19 | tomyeah | ok i try |
| 03:50.36 | tomyeah | theme launched without errors |
| 03:50.42 | saCUL | coolio |
| 03:51.10 | tomyeah | clicked around in other programs |
| 03:51.12 | tomyeah | seems to work |
| 03:51.26 | tomyeah | why did i have to use elpanel ? |
| 03:51.29 | roxville | tomyeah, you did an apt-get dist-upgrade earlier, right? |
| 03:51.34 | tomyeah | yes |
| 03:51.41 | saCUL | 8-} |
| 03:51.44 | tomyeah | roxville: Thanatermesis guided me through the upgrade |
| 03:51.51 | roxville | after that, did you do the elive-skel upgrade? |
| 03:51.56 | roxville | ok |
| 03:52.06 | tomyeah | elive-skel all or so |
| 03:52.39 | roxville | then you have some other problem.... |
| 03:53.08 | roxville | it may be your x-config, your hostname is bad or something... |
| 03:53.17 | roxville | lol |
| 03:53.27 | saCUL | :-) |
| 03:54.28 | roxville | saCUL, if you could refrain from using that exact smiley, i would appreciate it |
| 03:54.55 | roxville | a guy that used to be here... he pretty much tried to ruin the whole project |
| 03:55.27 | saCUL | roxville, **88-} |
| 03:55.54 | roxville | we think he was trying to make money off elive... so he was bad-mouthing thana behind his back and stuff... it was UGLY |
| 03:56.44 | roxville | for a while |
| 03:57.48 | roxville | aaaannnyyywwwaaayyy... |
| 04:00.01 | roxville | tomyeah, i would redo the xorg config and the network settings |
| 04:00.13 | tomyeah | my network works great |
| 04:00.27 | roxville | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 04:00.49 | roxville | but there is a hostname that needs to be perfectly set |
| 04:01.06 | roxville | i have just recovered from having probs with that |
| 04:01.09 | tomyeah | hm |
| 04:01.17 | roxville | i had all kinds of weird shit going on |
| 04:01.19 | tomyeah | i caant even remember my hostname |
| 04:01.39 | roxville | trolls and monsters and ghouls and shit |
| 04:01.45 | tomyeah | ;) |
| 04:01.48 | roxville | :) |
| 04:01.55 | tomyeah | how do i find out my hostname in console ? |
| 04:02.09 | *** join/#elive yawlright (n=Eric@24-52-17-80.sbtnvt.adelphia.net) |
| 04:02.12 | roxville | /etc/hostname |
| 04:02.36 | tomyeah | box |
| 04:02.41 | tomyeah | now i remember ;) |
| 04:03.02 | roxville | lol |
| 04:03.34 | roxville | see if you can set the network settings in elpanel |
| 04:03.47 | roxville | it's the nicest way to do it |
| 04:05.03 | roxville | it's in the "keys" menu |
| 04:05.35 | roxville | saCUL, would it be better with text in the first entry of elpanel |
| 04:05.41 | roxville | better than icons? |
| 04:05.49 | roxville | coz i get confused too |
| 04:06.49 | tomyeah | now i did reconfigure |
| 04:07.16 | roxville | ok |
| 04:07.32 | roxville | you may need to restart, .... nah |
| 04:07.36 | roxville | :) |
| 04:07.51 | tomyeah | nothin changed |
| 04:07.57 | roxville | it should work anyway... this is NOT windoze |
| 04:08.36 | roxville | ok, try a restart...if you want, first kill X with ctrl+alt+backspace |
| 04:09.18 | tomyeah | http://tomyeah.com/images/elive-update-conf.jpg |
| 04:09.34 | saCUL | roxville, first entry? |
| 04:09.36 | tomyeah | that was the message after reconfigure |
| 04:09.52 | saCUL | I think the icons should have a short text associated with them |
| 04:09.57 | roxville | yeah saCUL when you open elpanel |
| 04:10.12 | roxville | thos 3 icons... should they be text instead? |
| 04:10.20 | roxville | ok |
| 04:11.36 | saCUL | eyecandy users settings admin-settings |
| 04:12.25 | roxville | LMAO!! |
| 04:12.43 | roxville | tomyeah, you have some settings to do |
| 04:12.58 | roxville | you need to set your locale |
| 04:13.50 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@wh3-325.st.Uni-Magdeburg.DE) |
| 04:14.19 | roxville | and when you do adduser you have to type the username you want to add right wfter the command |
| 04:14.24 | saCUL | roxville can you paste your interfaces file into a private msg |
| 04:14.42 | tomyeah01 | im now online with spanish x-chat |
| 04:15.02 | roxville | lol tomyeah ... i've been there too buddy |
| 04:15.15 | roxville | what happened... no restart? |
| 04:15.17 | tomyeah01 | im now online with 1600x1200 ;) |
| 04:15.20 | tomyeah01 | finally |
| 04:15.32 | roxville | saCUL, i would love to! where can i find them? |
| 04:15.37 | tomyeah01 | i just wish i knew how to specificly set the refresh rate in elive |
| 04:16.31 | roxville | you have to do that with dpkg-reconfigure... and then you're set... i know, it sucks a little |
| 04:17.23 | tomyeah01 | but i wasnt able to set the refresh rate in advanced monitor settings |
| 04:17.52 | saCUL | roxville, /etc/network/interfaces |
| 04:18.11 | roxville | ahhh |
| 04:18.49 | tomyeah01 | this theme looks so tight |
| 04:19.08 | roxville | which one? |
| 04:19.19 | tomyeah01 | e17-simplywhite |
| 04:19.48 | roxville | simplywhite? haven't even seen it! |
| 04:20.00 | tomyeah01 | http://www.clan-hash.com/gulivert/?p=15 |
| 04:20.45 | tomyeah01 | ah damn |
| 04:20.49 | tomyeah01 | engage has a black background |
| 04:21.22 | tomyeah01 | can i change the background of engage somehow ? |
| 04:22.10 | tomyeah01 | lol |
| 04:22.40 | tomyeah01 | is there no lang file for x-chat ? |
| 04:22.42 | *** join/#elive dererk (n=dererk@unaffiliated/dererk) |
| 04:23.46 | roxville | tomyeah, that theme will go well with my lastest BG: http://club.elivecd.org/tiki-browse_image.php?imageId=49 |
| 04:24.29 | roxville | wb dererk :) |
| 04:25.10 | tomyeah01 | env LANG=de_DE xchat |
| 04:25.13 | tomyeah01 | would this work ? |
| 04:25.31 | tomyeah01 | roxville, do u use engage ? |
| 04:25.41 | roxville | yes |
| 04:25.49 | roxville | right now also in e17 |
| 04:25.53 | tomyeah01 | how do i change the background of the little engage window |
| 04:26.38 | tomyeah01 | no idea ? |
| 04:26.56 | tomyeah01 | i have a white background and the surrounding box of engage is black |
| 04:27.14 | tomyeah01 | maybe because i started engage as an application |
| 04:27.28 | tomyeah01 | i just typed "engage" into the console |
| 04:27.41 | tomyeah01 | is there an other way to add it to the desktop ? |
| 04:27.46 | roxville | yeah... i did my settings a LONG time ago... in sept.. let me see if i can find the link to that howto... |
| 04:28.04 | roxville | coz there's no easy way in elive |
| 04:29.13 | tomyeah01 | how do i close engage again ? |
| 04:29.41 | tomyeah01 | ill just kill it |
| 04:30.00 | roxville | http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=enlightenment-devel&m=111054507031989&w=2 |
| 04:30.11 | roxville | yeah, killall engage |
| 04:30.39 | roxville | there... the howto is quite extensive, and not ONLY about engage |
| 04:30.47 | tomyeah01 | ;) |
| 04:30.55 | roxville | some of the stuff is no longer relevant |
| 04:30.55 | tomyeah01 | id like some preconfigured settings |
| 04:30.59 | tomyeah01 | with a few buttons and so |
| 04:31.17 | roxville | me too |
| 04:31.23 | tomyeah01 | haha |
| 04:31.36 | tomyeah01 | do u know how to change the language of x-chat ? |
| 04:31.49 | tomyeah01 | export LANG=de_DE |
| 04:32.08 | roxville | no, i have no idea |
| 04:33.26 | roxville | google it |
| 04:33.34 | tomyeah01 | i do i do |
| 04:36.28 | roxville | To select another text encoding, simply do the following: |
| 04:36.28 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:36.28 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:36.28 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:36.28 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:36.37 | roxville | would that work? |
| 04:36.54 | roxville | oh, you probably want all of it in german? |
| 04:36.54 | tomyeah01 | isnt that for the text display |
| 04:38.16 | tomyeah01 | ah well never mind |
| 04:38.23 | tomyeah01 | i know all commands in irc that i need |
| 04:38.35 | tomyeah01 | just the funny spanish server messages |
| 04:38.58 | *** join/#elive chango (n=dererk@201.250.8.157) |
| 04:39.31 | tomyeah01 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:39.35 | tomyeah01 | hehe |
| 04:39.40 | chango | Thanatermesis, ping ping ping |
| 04:39.43 | chango | tomyeah, :) |
| 04:40.24 | chango | Thanatermesis, "You may be able to use the time demo version of Cedega on your CD." |
| 04:40.48 | chango | Thanatermesis, se que puede no significar mucho cuando no anda el instalador, pero, bueno, quizas no son tan malas noticias :) |
| 04:41.26 | Thanatermesis | chango comentaselo a ee_lars... no estoy muy seguro que eso sea realmente legal |
| 04:41.35 | Thanatermesis | y que es "el instalador" exactamente ? |
| 04:42.01 | chango | Thanatermesis, esa fue la respuesta del correo que envie a el staff de cedega thana |
| 04:42.01 | tomyeah01 | lol |
| 04:42.18 | tomyeah01 | are u guys really spanish speaking or is my xchat goin funky |
| 04:42.39 | Thanatermesis | tomyeah apt speak all languages :) |
| 04:42.47 | chango | tomyeah, Of course it's your xchat |
| 04:42.48 | Thanatermesis | apt x en ru im speaking any language of you like |
| 04:42.51 | chango | tomyeah, it's buggy |
| 04:42.54 | chango | che it |
| 04:43.10 | chango | check it |
| 04:43.16 | chango | lol |
| 04:43.18 | tomyeah01 | halbo espanol pequenio |
| 04:43.21 | Thanatermesis | y que es "el instalador" exactamente ? chango |
| 04:43.28 | roxville | apt x en es it's buggy |
| 04:43.33 | chango | Thanatermesis, no has dicho que tenias problemas con el instalador? |
| 04:43.44 | chango | Thanatermesis, el de morphix? |
| 04:43.44 | Thanatermesis | cochecillo xDDDDD |
| 04:43.54 | Thanatermesis | si chango ... demasiados |
| 04:44.25 | roxville | apt x de en ich bin ein berliner |
| 04:44.26 | chango | Thanatermesis, Bien, ya estas argentinizado -> "<Thanatermesis> si chango ... demasiados" |
| 04:44.40 | chango | roxville, I'm Ontario |
| 04:44.40 | roxville | hehe |
| 04:44.41 | chango | lol |
| 04:44.43 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 04:44.51 | chango | apt, chango |
| 04:44.53 | apt | ACTION thinks, Am I a chango guy? |
| 04:44.57 | chango | xD |
| 04:44.59 | chango | xDDDDD |
| 04:45.38 | roxville | yeah chango ... you think changing nick will fool your ISP? |
| 04:45.49 | chango | LOL |
| 04:45.52 | chango | LOL |
| 04:45.57 | chango | LLOOLL |
| 04:46.03 | roxville | ok, ok... |
| 04:46.05 | chango | I should try that |
| 04:46.14 | roxville | nice and calm dererk... |
| 04:46.18 | chango | I didn't think it |
| 04:46.20 | chango | May be |
| 04:46.26 | chango | If I change my nick |
| 04:46.29 | chango | My Id |
| 04:46.40 | chango | My Isp |
| 04:46.49 | chango | My Internet would go better |
| 04:46.51 | chango | well |
| 04:46.56 | chango | of course my isp |
| 04:46.57 | chango | xDDD |
| 04:48.17 | chango | !ping smart |
| 04:48.27 | chango | No smart found |
| 04:48.28 | chango | LOL |
| 04:48.41 | chango | Thanatermesis, Veo que no te cambio mucho el animo mi noticia |
| 04:48.42 | chango | :-S |
| 04:49.37 | Thanatermesis | lo siento chango ... tengo la cabeza demasiado masacrada con todo esto como para alegrarme por algo... |
| 04:49.40 | tomyeah01 | where r the icons stored in elive ? |
| 04:49.52 | chango | :0 |
| 04:49.57 | chango | Thanatermesis, Vamos thana |
| 04:50.04 | chango | Thanatermesis, Te vas a morir si sigues deprimido!!! |
| 04:50.11 | chango | Thanatermesis, arriba el animo!!!! |
| 04:50.16 | chango | Thanatermesis, UP UP UP UP |
| 04:50.44 | Thanatermesis | chango no es un problema... no son 2... es que NO FUNCIONA NADA !, y peor todavia... cuando intento ver que es lo que no funciona, me encuentro con mas cosas que no funcionan, y si pruebo un plan B, es peor que el primero.... |
| 04:51.09 | chango | Thanatermesis, No quiero imaginar cual es el plan B |
| 04:51.10 | chango | :-S |
| 04:51.53 | Thanatermesis | dererk el plan B ya lo e pasado... debo de ir por el J .... |
| 04:53.06 | dererk | :( |
| 04:53.12 | roxville | tomyeah01 where r the icons stored in elive ? <== in /usr/share/icons |
| 04:54.05 | tomyeah01 | thanks |
| 04:54.19 | roxville | np |
| 04:55.00 | tomyeah01 | i wonder why they dont show up in eap |
| 04:55.28 | roxville | tomyeah, some help can be found at www.elivecd.org and at http://club.elivecd.org |
| 04:55.30 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Que podria yo hacer para aliviar vuestra pena? :) |
| 04:55.36 | roxville | ok saCUL :) |
| 04:55.51 | Thanatermesis | dererk nada |
| 04:56.01 | dererk | Thanatermesis, :0 |
| 04:56.06 | dererk | :'( |
| 04:56.08 | roxville | tomyeah, .. what do you mean? |
| 04:56.36 | tomyeah01 | you know when u start the ead editor, you have 3 possible locstions to choose for your icons |
| 04:56.49 | roxville | yeah |
| 04:56.52 | Thanatermesis | no creo que se pueda hacer nada... |
| 04:57.01 | roxville | you can use any icons you find on the net |
| 04:57.16 | roxville | edit your eapp file, and then trash the icon itself |
| 04:57.19 | tomyeah01 | roxville, the problem is, no icons show up in that ead box |
| 04:57.37 | roxville | the icon is stored INSIDE the eapp file |
| 04:57.49 | tomyeah01 | oh ok |
| 04:58.16 | tomyeah01 | i thought the eap editor would let me choose app and icon as it does in gnome and kde |
| 04:58.50 | roxville | it does, but you have to locate your icons, that is correct |
| 04:59.07 | tomyeah01 | do i have to drag an icon into the ead editor ? |
| 04:59.27 | roxville | it is a little buggy... sometimes you have to do it twice or... even more... i go nuts over it sometimes |
| 04:59.39 | tomyeah01 | hehe |
| 04:59.43 | roxville | i wish i could improve it right now! |
| 05:00.11 | roxville | what eapp editor are you talking about? |
| 05:00.41 | roxville | a click or double click where the icon should be, should open a list for you |
| 05:00.54 | tomyeah01 | left click desktop. configuration , eap editor |
| 05:01.42 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Como que errores obtienes? |
| 05:02.30 | Thanatermesis | solo te digo dererk que a cada paso nuevo que intento dar, me encuentro con un problema tipo "mision imposible" |
| 05:03.45 | dererk | :-S |
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| 05:05.13 | dererk | Hi e-rox-tic :D |
| 05:05.15 | dererk | :) |
| 05:05.44 | roxville | whoa, the simply white theme just crashed xchat... |
| 05:05.57 | tomyeah01 | roxville, yes, when i double click on the icon windows there opens a list window with 3 localtions, homne, desktop, icons, but none of em shows any icon |
| 05:06.11 | roxville | hi die-erection :) |
| 05:06.22 | tomyeah01 | roxville, simply white was buggy in my 0.3 |
| 05:06.33 | Thanatermesis | im go to the bed... tomorrow burn more the brain... |
| 05:06.43 | roxville | the "milky" theme is quite stable |
| 05:06.43 | dererk | Thanatermesis, No pudiste solucionarlo con nadie |
| 05:06.54 | dererk | Thanatermesis, digo, nadie te ha podido ayudar? |
| 05:07.06 | roxville | ok thana... hope you can sleep :) |
| 05:07.09 | tomyeah01 | xfe |
| 05:07.22 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Que descances, mañana sera un gran dia thana ?=¬) |
| 05:07.33 | Thanatermesis | un gran dia? :/ |
| 05:07.46 | roxville | ok you may need to install icons |
| 05:08.19 | tomyeah01 | i got lots of icons in foxicons |
| 05:08.29 | tomyeah01 | i guess i have just to move the icons to some folder |
| 05:08.39 | roxville | are they png's preferably? |
| 05:08.40 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Claro, solucionaras todos los problemas ?=¬) |
| 05:08.52 | tomyeah01 | roxville, all png in various formats |
| 05:08.59 | roxville | yes, you can keep them in your home dir, that's fine |
| 05:09.06 | roxville | ok |
| 05:09.27 | roxville | i would use 128 size... looks better in engage |
| 05:09.37 | tomyeah01 | just int home/ ? or into home/icons or so |
| 05:09.57 | tomyeah01 | since engage has this nasty black background i wont use it anyways |
| 05:10.00 | dererk | everyone wish good luck to Thanatermesis !!!! |
| 05:10.02 | roxville | mkdir /home/tomyeah/icons |
| 05:10.08 | Thanatermesis | dererk o me encontraré con 5 mas... |
| 05:10.15 | Thanatermesis | sin haber solucionado el primero |
| 05:10.16 | roxville | you have to create that folder |
| 05:10.23 | Thanatermesis | bueno...me voy a dormir |
| 05:10.27 | Thanatermesis | good night all ! |
| 05:10.39 | roxville | good night thana :) |
| 05:10.40 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Que descances reina :) |
| 05:10.42 | dererk | :D |
| 05:10.51 | dererk | Gnight ThanaZzzz ?=¬) |
| 05:11.01 | dererk | Gnight roxville ! |
| 05:11.10 | tomyeah01 | roxville, i did, i guess i have to restart e |
| 05:11.14 | roxville | Gnight dererk ! :) |
| 05:11.25 | roxville | why would you restart? |
| 05:11.40 | tomyeah01 | roxville, because the icons dont show up in the ead editor |
| 05:12.07 | dererk | roxville, You are spleeping, aren't you? |
| 05:12.15 | roxville | tomyeah, ... |
| 05:12.21 | roxville | this is a BUG |
| 05:12.26 | tomyeah01 | ok |
| 05:12.28 | roxville | you have found a bug |
| 05:12.38 | tomyeah01 | not really |
| 05:12.43 | tomyeah01 | i think im just too dumb |
| 05:12.48 | roxville | i didn't know eapp editor was updated |
| 05:12.50 | tomyeah01 | software must be working |
| 05:13.53 | roxville | shit, how can they even release something like this? |
| 05:13.59 | tomyeah01 | hehe |
| 05:14.08 | tomyeah01 | i dont have a clue how to make application icons now |
| 05:14.18 | roxville | this is the e dev team, not thana |
| 05:15.08 | tomyeah01 | maybe i can write some eap file myself |
| 05:15.13 | tomyeah01 | somehow |
| 05:15.19 | tomyeah01 | maybe |
| 05:15.27 | tomyeah01 | in like a year |
| 05:15.56 | roxville | e_util_eapp_edit mozilla-firefox |
| 05:16.09 | roxville | that should look a little different |
| 05:16.32 | roxville | of course you don't HAVE to edit firefox, just choose whatever app you want |
| 05:16.56 | tomyeah01 | but there i can choose icons |
| 05:20.44 | roxville | but they don't take the icon... not for me anyway |
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| 05:24.05 | tomyeah02 | the theme just crashed my e |
| 05:25.15 | roxville | my daughter just woke up, i have to take her back to bed.. i'll probably pass out too, so... see y'all tomorrow! |
| 05:25.27 | saCUL | later roxville |
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| 07:49.40 | isotonic | hi |
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| 13:20.20 | dererk | Hi there! |
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| 14:19.51 | cuc | hi |
| 14:19.54 | dererk | cuc, cuc |
| 14:19.59 | dererk | xD |
| 14:20.13 | cuc | hola dererk ! |
| 14:20.32 | dererk | ^^ |
| 14:20.35 | dererk | Hola cuc |
| 14:20.37 | dererk | :D |
| 14:20.42 | dererk | ?=¬) |
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| 14:51.14 | tomyeah | hola amigos |
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| 16:37.00 | dererk | apt, chango |
| 16:37.02 | apt | ACTION thinks, Am I a chango guy? |
| 16:37.12 | dererk | xD |
| 16:48.15 | dererk | Thanatermesis, hace rato me llego el mismo correo que a ti sobre el traspaso de fondos del nigeriano |
| 16:48.25 | dererk | Se ve que parsearon varias webs :-S |
| 16:49.05 | Thanatermesis | dales tu cuenta xD |
| 16:50.01 | dererk | lol |
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| 17:19.11 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Algun avance chango? |
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| 17:43.37 | Elive_user | hola |
| 17:44.04 | _Red_ | holas |
| 17:44.24 | Elive_user | tengo un problema con el entrance, no lo puedo hacer arrancar |
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| 17:46.11 | Elive_user | se inicio la maquina me dijo lo siguiente: Not starting X display manajer (entrance): it is not the default display manager |
| 17:47.09 | tzulberti | ahora tube que instalar GDM para poder arrancarlo... |
| 17:47.17 | tzulberti | alguien tiene alguna idea? |
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| 18:10.17 | Mutacion | mmmmmmmmm |
| 18:10.23 | Mutacion | instalaste elive en la maqina? |
| 18:10.32 | Mutacion | porqe no le das un apt-dist upgrade |
| 18:10.42 | Mutacion | qiza eso funicone y recupere tu entrance..o reinstalo.. |
| 18:16.07 | _Red_ | dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 18:16.20 | _Red_ | y ahi escoges el entrance |
| 18:16.25 | _Red_ | o |
| 18:16.33 | _Red_ | dpkg-reconfigure entrance |
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| 18:37.34 | Elive_user | jirah...?? |
| 18:37.58 | Elive_user | jirah....???? |
| 18:38.05 | Mutacion | jirah? |
| 18:38.09 | Mutacion | hi |
| 18:38.11 | Mutacion | hola |
| 18:38.11 | Elive_user | busco a jirah... |
| 18:38.14 | Mutacion | salut |
| 18:38.16 | Mutacion | ahh |
| 18:38.18 | Mutacion | sabe |
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| 18:38.35 | Elive_user | hola.. |
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| 18:52.52 | nomed | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5336561617389993359&q=linux |
| 18:53.02 | nomed | " Fuzzy Linux Penguins Invade Microsoft Event on Campus " |
| 18:53.46 | tzulberti | el problema vino despues de hacer un dist-upgrade ayer a la noche. |
| 18:54.00 | tzulberti | ahora estoy probando lo de dpgk |
| 18:54.06 | tzulberti | muchas gracias por darme opciones |
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| 21:09.56 | sinplomo | hola felix |
| 21:12.30 | felix | sinplomo: buenas |
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| 21:36.26 | Mutacion | whos living |
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| 21:56.42 | chango | wop saCUL :D |
| 21:57.22 | chango | xD |
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| 22:02.43 | Rasko|nikov | buenas |
| 22:03.08 | Rasko|nikov | Thanatermesis, sinplomo, http://www.worldrps.com/ |
| 22:03.11 | Rasko|nikov | ups |
| 22:03.19 | Rasko|nikov | http://www.happypenguin.org/show?SDLjump#comments |
| 22:03.21 | Rasko|nikov | : |
| 22:03.22 | Rasko|nikov | :) |
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| 22:34.39 | dererk | apt, thy |
| 22:37.08 | saCUL | dererk your |
| 22:37.21 | dererk | saCUL ? |
| 22:37.26 | dererk | yogurt? |
| 22:37.30 | dererk | No, thanks |
| 22:37.33 | dererk | :P |
| 22:38.14 | dererk | saCUL, whassup?¿ :D |
| 22:41.52 | dererk | saCUL, ... |
| 22:41.58 | dererk | saCUL died? |
| 22:44.55 | saCUL | chasing my son around garden |
| 22:45.35 | saCUL | hmm andy@elive[~/.e/e/themes]$ emblem |
| 22:45.35 | saCUL | libpng warning: tEXt: CRC error |
| 22:51.32 | trigga | saCUL i've been getting that too recently just bombs out unknown critical chunk |
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