| 00:00.52 | roxville | # deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive |
| 00:01.17 | Mutacion | BLA BLA!!! rox |
| 00:01.23 | roxville | it's commented out in this example... |
| 00:01.40 | roxville | you need to fo to elivecd.org and get the apt key |
| 00:01.42 | dererk | saCUL, lol |
| 00:02.01 | saCUL | rookmoot, :-0 |
| 00:02.02 | Mutacion | blaaAa bla dererk |
| 00:02.05 | saCUL | roxville, :=_ |
| 00:02.08 | saCUL | :-) |
| 00:02.15 | dererk | Mutacion, bla bla |
| 00:02.36 | saCUL | thats better |
| 00:02.38 | Mutacion | bla, dererk |
| 00:02.47 | dererk | xD |
| 00:02.53 | Mutacion | churros! |
| 00:02.55 | dererk | wop saCUL :D |
| 00:03.06 | saCUL | apt x es en le tira a Mutacion con la guia rapida de recetas de cocina |
| 00:03.06 | dererk | Mutacion, Si, gracias :D |
| 00:03.15 | dererk | xDDD |
| 00:03.16 | saCUL | hehe |
| 00:03.35 | dererk | xDD |
| 00:04.21 | dererk | Is Thanatermesis alive= |
| 00:04.23 | dererk | Is Thanatermesis alive? |
| 00:04.29 | dererk | apt, wake up Thanatermesis ! |
| 00:04.30 | apt | up Thanatermesis !: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 00:04.42 | dererk | saCUL, looool |
| 00:05.02 | saCUL | hah |
| 00:06.16 | roxville | dererk, pls don't mess with thana right now... life is tough on him at the moment |
| 00:06.36 | dererk | :-s |
| 00:06.41 | dererk | I don't get it roxville |
| 00:06.48 | dererk | What's wrong? |
| 00:07.06 | roxville | he is going absolutely crazy with a bug that prevents him from making the 0.4 iso |
| 00:07.07 | Thanatermesis | dererk, Thanatermesis is died |
| 00:07.23 | dererk | :-S |
| 00:07.36 | dererk | :-S |
| 00:08.13 | roxville | Thanatermesis, we'll just call it "nolive" instead, and ppl will d/l like crazy |
| 00:09.28 | Thanatermesis | hehehe |
| 00:10.28 | dererk | :-S |
| 00:10.43 | dererk | :'( |
| 00:12.24 | roxville | anyway dererk, this is kinda serious |
| 00:13.07 | saCUL | roxville, is there some sort script with the morphix modules? |
| 00:13.17 | saCUL | or is he running out of space |
| 00:13.25 | saCUL | or is it still the installer issue |
| 00:13.31 | roxville | so if anybody has a friend who has a mother-in-law who has done some linux installer-scripting... pls call |
| 00:14.08 | roxville | it's the installer script itself... and we need to find the bug...pronto |
| 00:16.25 | roxville | * dererk set dererk mode +serious <= much better dererk :) |
| 00:22.18 | roxville | me neither pal |
| 00:22.45 | roxville | but... we all feel a little worried that 0.4 may be in danger |
| 00:23.06 | dererk | I see. |
| 00:23.32 | dererk | But I ask thana to give him my help, and he answered I won't be able to :-S |
| 00:25.20 | roxville | if you become a morphix developer tonight, you may very well be able to help him! |
| 00:26.07 | dererk | :-s |
| 00:27.19 | roxville | or if you know how to install and configure fucking drupal, you can help ME!! |
| 00:27.23 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@gam75-3-82-226-1-156.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 00:29.27 | roxville | oh sorry, how could i forget... |
| 00:30.51 | roxville | no muta, sorry dude |
| 00:31.20 | dererk | me neither |
| 00:31.26 | Mutacion | buh |
| 00:31.52 | Mutacion | cause in skul ..my Computer Teacher.. jiji... needs help with linux :P |
| 00:32.18 | Mutacion | lol! he dosent know anything about linux..and wants to set up an apache web server inside the university |
| 00:32.52 | Mutacion | and he gave me an IBM 8381..and.. the eth0 is integrated to an INTEL MOTHERBOARD :s and rh nor ubuntu detect the exact eth. :s |
| 00:33.05 | Mutacion | thats a big pob..i think linux dosent support that eth |
| 00:33.50 | Mutacion | http://bsdnetwork.org/~mutacion/lalito_uvm/ <-- i have already set up that in a friends server.."meanwhile" i install his linux box |
| 00:35.02 | Mutacion | on monday ill go with my pci eth jiji..if that dosent function then..the administrators are giving me wrong IPS and a wrongs PROXY's ips =/ that really sucks |
| 00:35.23 | roxville | ok muta is it 8183 or 8381? |
| 00:35.33 | dererk | I didn't use drupal |
| 00:35.34 | dererk | But |
| 00:35.38 | Mutacion | mm let me see.. |
| 00:35.43 | dererk | What's wrong with it roxville |
| 00:36.04 | roxville | dererk, i don't know how to configure it |
| 00:36.22 | roxville | and i have probably messed the whole thing up already |
| 00:36.23 | dererk | Have you installed mysqld |
| 00:36.42 | roxville | yes |
| 00:36.45 | dererk | You need apache (no apache2) version to run ut |
| 00:36.47 | dererk | it* |
| 00:36.58 | roxville | ok, that is the prob then |
| 00:37.06 | dererk | do you have installed, right? |
| 00:37.08 | dererk | xDDD |
| 00:37.20 | roxville | can i have both installed or must i uninstall apache2? |
| 00:37.37 | Mutacion | yeaph rox, is an 8183 |
| 00:37.45 | roxville | ok |
| 00:38.01 | Mutacion | Adaptateur réseau - PCI - Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Gigabit Ethernet <--jojo no chip/no number/nothing :s... |
| 00:38.14 | Mutacion | the admins say that its an 'intel pro 1000' jojo.. |
| 00:38.41 | Mutacion | it can be an win-eth? lol xD (like winmodem)? jijiji |
| 00:40.06 | roxville | muta, i have an intel motherboard with onboard gigabit ethernet |
| 00:40.20 | roxville | and... does it seem like it works |
| 00:40.44 | Mutacion | i also think that :P |
| 00:40.55 | Mutacion | are u really online? or ur inside internet? xD |
| 00:42.01 | roxville | LOL |
| 00:42.11 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@208.192.64.234) |
| 00:42.50 | roxville | nah, intel is good at supporting linux |
| 00:43.04 | roxville | have you tried installing linux on it? |
| 00:43.14 | roxville | and if yes... what? |
| 00:43.50 | saCUL | Mutacion, you should try installing with a knoppix cd - they have the best hardware detection - will get a clue if it is supported or not |
| 00:44.03 | roxville | dererk, do i need to uninstall apache? i do, don't i? |
| 00:44.03 | Mutacion | i installed ubuntu and rh.. and both detects different eth jiji |
| 00:44.28 | Mutacion | :o i have knoppix on monday ill put it on my backpack |
| 00:44.37 | dererk | You could stop apache2, and then install apache (1.33) |
| 00:44.37 | saCUL | good idea |
| 00:44.41 | dererk | roxville |
| 00:44.54 | roxville | thx dererk :) |
| 00:46.42 | Mutacion | well have to go.. im going to church :)..tonigh its the last.. misa? |
| 00:46.45 | dererk | At your will roxville :) |
| 00:46.46 | Mutacion | apt x es en misa |
| 00:46.53 | dererk | yours too Mutacion ;) |
| 00:46.53 | dererk | xDDD |
| 00:46.55 | Mutacion | not mass no |
| 00:47.10 | Mutacion | sabe.. whats misa en ingles w? |
| 00:48.24 | Mutacion | bueno nos vemos |
| 00:48.25 | Mutacion | apt bye |
| 00:48.27 | apt | l8tr |
| 00:48.31 | dererk | Mutacion, good luck pal! |
| 00:48.32 | dererk | :) |
| 00:48.38 | Mutacion | churros |
| 00:48.39 | Mutacion | habla en espaniol! |
| 00:48.44 | dererk | lol |
| 00:51.46 | roxville | muta it is mass |
| 00:51.57 | dererk | Mass? |
| 00:52.06 | dererk | What you celebrate in Church? |
| 01:00.06 | roxville | yes |
| 01:03.09 | dererk | I see... |
| 01:03.14 | dererk | (said the blind man) |
| 01:06.55 | dererk | Don't rox |
| 01:11.12 | roxville | too late... i'm too tired to think |
| 01:11.19 | roxville | about that |
| 01:11.37 | dererk | I see... |
| 01:11.43 | dererk | Take a beer then |
| 01:14.30 | *** join/#elive forGET (n=forGET@200.106.102.138) |
| 01:16.13 | *** join/#elive nothingHappens (n=chuck@12-219-5-167.client.mchsi.com) |
| 01:20.07 | dererk | :D |
| 01:42.35 | roxville | bedtime for daughter, brb ppl :) |
| 01:56.50 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@67-137-247-187.bras01.eko.nv.frontiernet.net) |
| 02:30.15 | roxville | lol |
| 02:30.23 | roxville | wb saCUL :) |
| 02:30.29 | saCUL | about to go swimming with my liddle son |
| 02:31.13 | dererk | loool |
| 02:31.33 | roxville | lol |
| 02:31.46 | roxville | it's the frozen south right now |
| 02:32.03 | roxville | getting cold here... as it's getting warm there |
| 02:32.28 | dererk | It's just as life |
| 02:33.10 | dererk | You are getting bored there, while I'm terrificaly happy here |
| 02:33.11 | dererk | xD |
| 02:33.33 | roxville | you're right dererk :) |
| 02:33.42 | dererk | xD |
| 02:35.58 | *** join/#elive forGET (n=forGET@200.106.102.138) |
| 02:36.11 | roxville | saCUL, have fun dude! |
| 02:37.25 | saCUL | roxville, you too - any news from Thanatermesis ? |
| 02:37.27 | dererk | roxville, saCUL if having fun with his little daughter pacifier xDD |
| 02:38.19 | roxville | he's ok... he wrote his own installer last night, so i think we will be ok :) |
| 02:38.34 | roxville | but he really thinks his installer is ugly |
| 02:38.49 | roxville | he uses zenity for it |
| 02:39.07 | roxville | but who cares, as long as it works better? |
| 02:41.05 | roxville | the main thing that will be missing, is the dancing penguin |
| 02:41.36 | saCUL | oh then we gotta hold da presses |
| 02:41.43 | roxville | he can possibly use gparted instead, which is the best one IMHO... and make a better probe for other os'es |
| 02:41.53 | roxville | LOL |
| 02:42.59 | roxville | yeah, i think the dancing penguin actually is what performs the install |
| 02:47.24 | dererk | :D |
| 02:47.26 | *** join/#elive saCUL (n=Elive_us@dsl-220-235-136-111.wa.westnet.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 02:47.33 | dererk | xD |
| 02:47.37 | dererk | xDDD |
| 02:50.39 | roxville | dererk, you can tira all you want dude... i still don't understand what you're trying to say |
| 02:51.14 | dererk | * dererk le tira a roxville con un gabinete babytower == dererk slaps roxville with a babytower |
| 02:51.38 | roxville | with a babytower? |
| 02:51.56 | roxville | what the hell is a babytower? |
| 02:52.12 | dererk | Yes, you know, the horizontally tower |
| 02:52.19 | dererk | it's known as babytower |
| 02:52.35 | dererk | Full-meddium-mini-baby |
| 02:52.42 | dererk | (ull-meddium-mini-baby)tower |
| 02:52.55 | dererk | ¬¬! |
| 02:53.06 | dererk | You have your PC in there |
| 02:53.31 | roxville | ok... |
| 02:53.54 | roxville | no, i still don't understand |
| 02:54.48 | roxville | ok, i guess you put the babay on it to change diapers? |
| 02:55.39 | dererk | xDDD |
| 02:55.46 | dererk | xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 02:57.28 | dererk | this is a babytower roxville http://www.mercadolibre.com.ar/jm/img?s=MLA&f=18261272_4404.jpg&v=P |
| 02:58.43 | roxville | that's a baby tower? |
| 02:58.53 | roxville | but... where's the baby? |
| 02:58.56 | roxville | inside? |
| 02:59.26 | dererk | lol |
| 02:59.32 | dererk | it's called like that |
| 03:00.05 | roxville | so what do you use it for? |
| 03:00.47 | dererk | ¬¬ |
| 03:00.54 | dererk | Are you serious? |
| 03:01.04 | dererk | Are you kidding? |
| 03:01.44 | roxville | is that a question? |
| 03:01.54 | roxville | or 2 questions? |
| 03:02.00 | *** join/#elive quidam-laptop (n=Elive_us@200.90.86.170) |
| 03:02.05 | dererk | lol |
| 03:02.09 | dererk | I mean |
| 03:02.10 | roxville | dererk, yes |
| 03:02.13 | dererk | It's a tower |
| 03:02.22 | dererk | You put you pc inside there |
| 03:02.50 | dererk | I mean, you memory cards, your hdd, your motherboard, power supply |
| 03:02.52 | dererk | etc |
| 03:03.00 | roxville | but why keep a pc inside a tower? |
| 03:03.38 | roxville | where do you keep it? on the top floor or the bottom floor? or somewhere in between? |
| 03:04.30 | roxville | but... i keep that stuff mounted instide the computer case |
| 03:06.04 | dererk | ......................................... |
| 03:06.21 | dererk | ........................................................................................ |
| 03:06.30 | dererk | Very bad joke |
| 03:06.34 | dererk | VERY bad one |
| 03:06.44 | quidam-laptop | Thanatermesis, como quito un banner en irc??? |
| 03:06.55 | dererk | I just trying to explain it and you just lying :-s |
| 03:07.04 | dererk | quidam-laptop, Cual banner? |
| 03:07.13 | Thanatermesis | un banner ? o_O |
| 03:07.14 | dererk | quidam-laptop, thana esta semi dead |
| 03:07.19 | dererk | Oh, ahi esta xD |
| 03:07.21 | quidam-laptop | dererk, es que un gracioso me baneo |
| 03:07.28 | quidam-laptop | en un canal |
| 03:07.28 | dererk | loool |
| 03:07.34 | quidam-laptop | pero soy op |
| 03:07.39 | quidam-laptop | asi que me lo puedo quitar |
| 03:07.41 | quidam-laptop | :P |
| 03:07.47 | quidam-laptop | pero no recuerdo el comando xD |
| 03:08.57 | quidam-laptop | por cierto Thanatermesis mira lo que consegui xD http://wiki.linux.net.nz/UbuntuRemastering |
| 03:09.45 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Oye, aun estas semi-dead? |
| 03:13.12 | dererk | Right! |
| 03:13.13 | dererk | xD |
| 03:15.59 | roxville | quidam-, i liked you better as quidam-laptop |
| 03:16.30 | dererk | Umm... |
| 03:17.03 | roxville | watch out quidam- , dererk mas smack you with his baby-tower |
| 03:17.12 | roxville | may |
| 03:18.12 | quidam- | apt x es en roxville, bueno no siempre estoy en el laptop |
| 03:19.45 | Thanatermesis | quidam- :S |
| 03:19.53 | Thanatermesis | ubuntu remastering ? |
| 03:20.03 | quidam- | Thanatermesis, xDDDD si ji ji ji |
| 03:20.09 | quidam- | estaba leyendo un poco |
| 03:20.12 | quidam- | y consegui eso |
| 03:20.13 | quidam- | :P |
| 03:21.23 | Thanatermesis | jeje |
| 03:21.29 | Thanatermesis | bueno... me voy a dormir... |
| 03:21.32 | Thanatermesis | mañana mas :) |
| 03:21.43 | Thanatermesis | good night ppl! |
| 03:21.54 | roxville | hasta bandana :) |
| 03:22.26 | Thanatermesis | ã™ã‚‹ã®ã¯UnionFSã«ã¤ã„ã¦ã§ã™fuckingã‚‹ã®shitã¤ã„ã¦ã§sayonara |
| 03:22.30 | roxville | good night thana |
| 03:22.37 | Thanatermesis | yep, good night rookmoot |
| 03:22.38 | roxville | lol |
| 03:22.40 | Thanatermesis | roxville |
| 03:24.10 | dererk | ThanaZzzz, Gnight!!!! |
| 03:24.20 | dererk | ThanaZzzz, Que descances! |
| 03:24.27 | dererk | Gnight all there! |
| 03:24.38 | dererk | (included roxville) |
| 03:24.45 | dererk | ( included ) |
| 03:24.48 | dererk | ( included ) |
| 03:24.52 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.01 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.04 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.11 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.16 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.20 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.24 | ThanaZzzz | dererk try a coffy with salt ;) |
| 03:25.32 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.35 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.37 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.39 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.42 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.49 | dererk | ThanaZzzz, :'( |
| 03:25.52 | dererk | snif ThanaZzzz |
| 03:26.00 | ThanaZzzz | is good for the "borracheras" ;) |
| 03:26.04 | dererk | Ahhh |
| 03:26.06 | dererk | :D |
| 03:26.07 | dererk | xD |
| 03:26.23 | ThanaZzzz | "drunk" |
| 03:26.28 | ThanaZzzz | good night dererk |
| 03:26.43 | dererk | ThanaZzzz, Que descances chango! :) |
| 03:49.13 | *** join/#elive Rasko|nikov (n=raskolni@162.Red-83-61-111.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 03:52.54 | *** join/#elive goldstein (n=b@a213-22-152-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 03:53.05 | goldstein | hello |
| 03:54.03 | goldstein | i need help with as400 /rpg programing. anyone knows a good site? |
| 03:57.40 | roxville | hey goldstein |
| 03:57.51 | roxville | no dude, sorry |
| 03:57.59 | roxville | i don't even know what it is |
| 03:58.11 | goldstein | you dont want to. |
| 03:58.19 | roxville | lol, ok... |
| 03:58.44 | roxville | that bad, eh? |
| 03:58.58 | goldstein | i cant find a single chanel with as400 geeks..:/ |
| 03:59.23 | roxville | hm |
| 03:59.49 | roxville | i'm sorry dude |
| 04:00.16 | goldstein | changing subject.. |
| 04:00.21 | goldstein | elive news:)? |
| 04:01.26 | *** join/#elive roxville (n=chris@pcp02417389pcs.jamsis01.sc.comcast.net) |
| 04:01.55 | roxville | why does restart e always close my xchat? |
| 04:02.19 | roxville | just one of life's mysteries, i guess... |
| 04:02.52 | goldstein | doesnt happen to me.. |
| 04:03.27 | goldstein | what happened to me was that since last upgrade i cannot choose e17 on entrance |
| 04:03.36 | goldstein | the menu does not show up |
| 04:03.51 | goldstein | i use only 16 anyway, but.. |
| 04:04.07 | roxville | ahhh you need to click below and slightly to the right of the little chooser |
| 04:04.24 | roxville | it's mighty tricky |
| 04:04.38 | goldstein | loool |
| 04:04.58 | goldstein | thana works in mysterious ways.. |
| 04:05.25 | roxville | it's not thana... it's the "e" people |
| 04:06.20 | goldstein | e is from evil, i know. |
| 04:07.17 | roxville | lol |
| 04:07.27 | *** join/#elive saCUL (n=Elive_us@dsl-220-235-136-111.wa.westnet.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 04:07.57 | roxville | that was a quick swim mate! |
| 04:09.43 | roxville | goldstein, i don't know if you have met saCUL, he's a good guy from australia |
| 04:10.14 | roxville | at least, he's been pretty good so far... :) |
| 04:10.36 | roxville | but he's very quiet at the moment |
| 04:14.33 | goldstein | maybe i have intimidated him.. |
| 04:14.36 | goldstein | hi dude.. |
| 04:15.59 | goldstein | im leaving |
| 04:16.06 | goldstein | bye roxville |
| 04:31.43 | roxville | ok ppl... see you tomorrow :) |
| 07:36.50 | *** join/#elive rookmoot (n=rookmoot@ANantes-256-1-18-150.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:59.49 | *** join/#elive isotonic (n=root@c-24-98-150-122.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 08:00.05 | isotonic | hi |
| 08:30.47 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@84-72-93-152.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 08:32.33 | *** part/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@84-72-93-152.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 09:23.05 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@212-104-123-15.cable.evrocom.net) |
| 09:23.09 | *** part/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@212-104-123-15.cable.evrocom.net) |
| 09:59.16 | *** join/#elive maxtoo (n=maxtoo@AOrleans-154-1-40-249.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:09.50 | *** join/#elive zoombie--aWay (n=zoombie@200.93.12.236) |
| 11:12.48 | *** join/#elive maxtoo (n=maxtoo@AOrleans-154-1-40-249.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 12:16.42 | *** join/#elive forGET (n=forGET@200.106.102.138) |
| 12:20.54 | *** join/#elive kender (n=r00t@eu83-213-144-82.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 12:21.32 | kender | hello |
| 12:42.14 | *** join/#elive maxtoo (n=maxtoo@AOrleans-154-1-40-249.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 12:50.31 | *** join/#elive trigga (n=Elive_us@host86-133-74-119.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:54.31 | *** join/#elive roxville (n=chris@pcp02417389pcs.jamsis01.sc.comcast.net) |
| 13:36.16 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@200.93.10.10) |
| 14:36.48 | *** join/#elive Enlight_uni (n=Enlight@lns-bzn-6-82-250-167-73.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 15:23.04 | *** join/#elive Rasko|nikov (n=raskolni@162.Red-83-61-111.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:25.49 | *** join/#elive dats (n=dats@33.Red-213-98-129.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:21.18 | *** join/#elive Elive_user2 (n=Elive_us@c-24-19-33-21.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 16:40.35 | *** join/#elive _H_ (n=_H_@62-43-37-251.user.ono.com) |
| 17:06.05 | *** join/#elive mariodebian (n=mario@85-49-192-53.mad2.adsl.uni2.es) |
| 17:11.05 | dererk | Hi there! |
| 17:24.31 | *** join/#elive steve01 (n=StEvE@host81-155-182-13.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:25.25 | *** part/#elive steve01 (n=StEvE@host81-155-182-13.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:25.27 | roxville | yo ppl |
| 17:26.05 | roxville | mariodebian, good job on the xffm 4.3 :) |
| 17:26.28 | mariodebian | why? |
| 17:26.30 | roxville | i feel we may have a thunar-killer |
| 17:26.50 | roxville | why?... it was well...packed, lol |
| 17:27.33 | *** join/#elive nothingHappens (n=chuck@12-219-5-167.client.mchsi.com) |
| 17:27.40 | roxville | hmmm sinplomo told me you had packed it... is that true? |
| 17:38.14 | mariodebian | yes |
| 17:38.18 | mariodebian | from svn |
| 17:40.49 | roxville | and i just told you you did a good job! |
| 17:41.44 | roxville | that's all! i don't wanna go out with your g/f or your sister or mom or anything... |
| 17:42.31 | roxville | :) |
| 17:43.35 | *** join/#elive Thanatermesis (n=Elive@unaffiliated/thanatermesis) |
| 17:48.43 | mariodebian | hola Thanatermesis |
| 17:48.53 | Thanatermesis | hola mariodebian |
| 17:49.04 | mariodebian | leiste mi mail? |
| 17:49.27 | *** join/#elive KaKaRoTo-KS (n=kakaroto@209-161-241-31.dsl.look.ca) |
| 17:50.02 | Thanatermesis | no, voy a revisarlos... |
| 17:54.42 | Thanatermesis | ok mariodebian , ya veo... tampoco es tan dificil al fin y al cabo :) ok, le mando un email, quizas lo tenga arreglado pero no estoy seguro que sea "de esta forma"... |
| 17:55.00 | mariodebian | el problema en mi mirror |
| 17:55.15 | mariodebian | era ese, es decir, el cron lo ejecutaba root y si hacias el script a mano no te dejaba |
| 17:55.49 | Thanatermesis | por eso te envie el mail ;) recordaba que paso algo parecido (o lo mismo) |
| 17:57.16 | *** join/#elive Elive_user2 (n=Elive_us@user-243-221-151-83.e7even.com) |
| 18:06.52 | *** join/#elive Elive_user2 (n=Elive_us@user-243-221-151-83.e7even.com) |
| 18:12.21 | *** join/#elive Elive_user2 (n=Elive_us@c-f741e155.169-1-64736c13.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 18:12.56 | *** join/#elive manveru (n=manveru@dsl-wien1-32-223.utaonline.at) |
| 18:15.54 | manveru | hey guys :) |
| 18:17.09 | Thanatermesis | mariodebian tu tambien estabas metido con algo del unionfs, no ? |
| 18:17.26 | mariodebian | mas o menos... |
| 18:17.38 | mariodebian | ya lo he hecho andar pero no me llevo beien con udev |
| 18:18.01 | Thanatermesis | yo tampoco me e llevado nunca bien, jeje, pero bueno... supongo que con el tiempo tendremos que adaptarnos ;) |
| 18:18.05 | Thanatermesis | quieres ver algo divertido ? |
| 18:18.34 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/nada-morphixinstaller10.jpg |
| 18:20.39 | mariodebian | que raro... ¿qué dice «dmesg | tail»? |
| 18:21.18 | Thanatermesis | es un bug de unionfs ;) |
| 18:21.45 | Thanatermesis | no hace falta dmesg, ya se que es un bug de unionfs... por lo visto los developers de unionfs no saben "reproducir" los bugs.. o no los encuentran facilmente... |
| 18:21.53 | Thanatermesis | bien, aqui muestro una bonita forma de hacer uno xD |
| 18:22.35 | mariodebian | montando un sistema de archivos? |
| 18:22.38 | mariodebian | o algo más? |
| 18:23.09 | Thanatermesis | simplemente y exactamente lo que sale en el shot ;) |
| 18:23.39 | mariodebian | estas en modo live? |
| 18:23.45 | Thanatermesis | montas un fs de un device invalido, desmontas por si las moscas.. borras el dir, vuelves a crearlo, vuelves a montar, vuelves a desmontar, borras el dir... SEGFAULT ! |
| 18:23.47 | Thanatermesis | si |
| 18:24.05 | mariodebian | deberias probar el nuevo calzador de metadistros |
| 18:24.18 | mariodebian | lo va a usar guadalinex y la proxima ubuntu-live |
| 18:24.50 | Thanatermesis | usa unionfs ? |
| 18:24.55 | mariodebian | sis |
| 18:25.04 | mariodebian | es super rápido arrancando |
| 18:25.15 | mariodebian | 30-45 segundos en lanzar las X |
| 18:25.20 | *** join/#elive Elive_user2 (n=Elive_us@54-157-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 18:25.31 | Thanatermesis | bueno... todo depende de la velocidad de la maquina que cambia mucho de una otra ;) |
| 18:25.40 | Thanatermesis | la verdad es que nunca e probado metadistros... |
| 18:25.54 | mariodebian | sobre qemu o vmware te estoy hablando... y una iso de 200 megas de prueba con un gnome |
| 18:26.09 | Thanatermesis | pero mi siguiente paso sera o bien usar uno existente... o bien escribirme el mio propio (creo que sera mas bien el 1º) |
| 18:26.28 | mariodebian | pues empieza a estudiar metadistros.... |
| 18:26.37 | mariodebian | es loq ue mejor pinta y más sencilllo es |
| 18:26.50 | mariodebian | usa initramfs como sistema de arranque y todo esta dentro |
| 18:26.55 | Thanatermesis | humm... si, es rapido.. aunque bueno, seguimos en las mismas... qemu en mi 360 Mhz tardaria almenos 10 o 15 minutos en arrancarlo xD |
| 18:27.17 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 18:27.26 | Thanatermesis | metadistros es un proyecto "unicamente" castellano ? |
| 18:27.48 | Thanatermesis | osea... no se basa en una pagina en ingles que lo usa todo el planeta ni nada, no ? es mas bien en español... |
| 18:27.59 | mariodebian | ummm si y no |
| 18:28.19 | mariodebian | es un proyecto universal de hecho tiene web en castellano o inglés ( al menos tenÃa) |
| 18:28.42 | mariodebian | pero fue el lanzador de distros españolas como Linex o Guadalinex y ahora ubuntu |
| 18:28.56 | Thanatermesis | si... |
| 18:29.35 | Thanatermesis | por cierto, sabes algo de algun instalador ? voy a escribirme el mio propio en zenity porque el de morphix no me sirve actualmente... a menos que haya otra cosa.... pero bueno, dudo que haya algo facilmente "customizable" |
| 18:30.57 | mariodebian | jejejje |
| 18:31.05 | mariodebian | has dado con la persona indicada |
| 18:31.11 | mariodebian | (ahora es cuendo me vendo) |
| 18:31.18 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 18:31.22 | mariodebian | estoy haciendo uno que ya tengo casi terminado :P |
| 18:31.32 | Thanatermesis | en que esta escrito ? |
| 18:31.34 | mariodebian | YaMI - yet another metadistros installer |
| 18:31.42 | mariodebian | ruby + gnome2 (gtk2) |
| 18:31.55 | Thanatermesis | aunque bueno... te lo preguntaba pero el principal problema es que sea "compatible" y haga las partes que tiene que hacer "cada sistema"... |
| 18:32.02 | mariodebian | 100% customize |
| 18:32.06 | Thanatermesis | ruby ? ni idea :S |
| 18:32.15 | mariodebian | se basa en un asistente tipo siguiente siguinete |
| 18:32.22 | mariodebian | lanza gparted para tema de particiones |
| 18:32.27 | mariodebian | y hace 4 preguntillas |
| 18:32.35 | mariodebian | el resto lo ahce un bash script |
| 18:32.43 | Thanatermesis | ah, pues hace algo como el morphixinstaller entonces :) |
| 18:32.44 | mariodebian | que es donde puedes meter toda la mano que quieras |
| 18:32.54 | Thanatermesis | aha, suena interesante |
| 18:33.05 | mariodebian | soleup.eup.uva.es/websvn |
| 18:33.09 | mariodebian | soleupix--> yami |
| 18:33.17 | mariodebian | alli tienes las sources |
| 18:33.25 | Thanatermesis | de hecho, ahora mismo lo unico que tengo es eso.. un script (solo para ver si instala bien) pero sin preguntas ni nada, todo directo |
| 18:34.05 | *** join/#elive nomed (n=daniele@host125-164.pool8258.interbusiness.it) |
| 18:34.39 | Thanatermesis | pues voy a hecharle un vistazo.. ;) |
| 18:34.52 | Thanatermesis | ah nomed, im searching you.. do you have look my last ML ? |
| 18:35.25 | nomed | Thanatermesis, do you mean the one at unionfs ? |
| 18:35.39 | Thanatermesis | yeah, with the screenshot |
| 18:36.03 | Thanatermesis | subject: "give me a segfault please" :) |
| 18:40.37 | roxville | hehe |
| 18:41.23 | Thanatermesis | tiene buena pinta mariodebian (e instalado el .deb), falta que me lo mire un poco mas... pero tiene buena pinta si :) |
| 18:41.50 | manveru | you need segfaults? i _have_ segfaults! ;) |
| 18:42.46 | Thanatermesis | nah manveru... i have look a lot this week, i don't need more... im only send the segfaults to the developers of unionfs :) |
| 18:43.02 | manveru | ^^ |
| 18:46.33 | *** join/#elive badblody (n=badblody@43.Red-83-59-220.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:53.37 | *** join/#elive badblody (n=badblody@43.Red-83-59-220.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:05.41 | *** join/#elive dererk (n=dererk@unaffiliated/dererk) |
| 19:05.56 | *** join/#elive Elive_user2 (n=Elive_us@193.120.84.135) |
| 19:08.08 | dererk | Hi there |
| 19:31.32 | tzulberti | hi |
| 19:59.19 | manveru | Thanatermesis: when will elive be ready for installing on laptops? :) |
| 20:00.00 | Thanatermesis | if no have any hardware problems.. yes :)= |
| 20:00.27 | dererk | Thanatermesis, Hola chango |
| 20:00.30 | dererk | Thanatermesis, como va todo? |
| 20:00.45 | *** join/#elive _H_ (n=_H_@62-43-37-251.user.ono.com) |
| 20:01.11 | Thanatermesis | dererk pse... tirando |
| 20:01.15 | KaKaRoTo-KS | Thanatermesis: http://free.oszoo.org/download.html <-- might be cool to add elive to the free os zoo ? |
| 20:04.36 | *** join/#elive ben (n=ben@219-88-85-171.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 20:05.01 | Thanatermesis | yes... why not ? :) |
| 20:05.21 | KaKaRoTo-KS | :) |
| 20:06.17 | dererk | Thanatermesis, algun avance amigo? |
| 20:06.52 | Thanatermesis | dererk hombre... avance no seria la mejor palabra... pero bueno |
| 20:07.00 | Thanatermesis | la cosa esta mas o menos igual que antes |
| 20:07.17 | dererk | :-s |
| 20:07.31 | dererk | Aunque tu querras $$$.tar no? |
| 20:07.32 | dererk | xD |
| 20:08.38 | *** part/#elive ben (n=ben@219-88-85-171.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 20:10.55 | sinplomo | apt, x es en hemisferio |
| 20:11.17 | dererk | Thanatermesis, era una broma ¬¬ |
| 20:12.42 | Thanatermesis | dererk yeah, better $$$.tgz :) |
| 20:12.56 | dererk | :)~ |
| 20:22.39 | *** join/#elive sinplomo (i=sinplomo@adsl196-2-105-206-196.adsl196-4.iam.net.ma) |
| 20:22.48 | Thanatermesis | roxville http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=483&slide=4&title=symphony+os+beta+1+pr1+screenshots |
| 20:23.33 | sinplomo | apt, x en es venue |
| 20:24.41 | dererk | lol |
| 20:25.38 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, habria quedado mas guapo usando un fuente mas guapa |
| 20:25.46 | sinplomo | y cambia el theme de gtk que esta por defecto |
| 20:25.47 | sinplomo | xD |
| 20:25.52 | sinplomo | apt, jodete puto cabron |
| 20:25.55 | sinplomo | apt, x en es venue |
| 20:32.04 | roxville | i have seen symphony... they have some interesting ideas |
| 20:32.51 | roxville | but i'm not sure i would use it |
| 20:34.45 | Thanatermesis | roxville if you like to install... sinplomo has showed me the packages, i give you the steps if you like to try... not is very good (looks better than is it), but the ideas of the interface is good in any case |
| 20:41.47 | roxville | yeah, the ideas are good... |
| 20:43.57 | roxville | i'm waiting for a osx direction... with all deps built in to the app |
| 20:46.43 | sinplomo | roxville, it exist for linux ... |
| 20:46.50 | sinplomo | it's called klix |
| 20:47.00 | sinplomo | or something like that ... |
| 20:47.32 | sinplomo | but amsn packed with klix takes more than 20 mb ... |
| 20:47.37 | roxville | why is it not used more? |
| 20:47.49 | roxville | ahhh |
| 20:48.06 | roxville | yes the size would increase of course |
| 20:48.24 | roxville | but still, i think it could be worth it for a lot of ppl |
| 20:49.22 | sinplomo | roxville, it's called klik |
| 20:49.28 | manveru | yeah, klik |
| 20:49.37 | manveru | just tried it, and it works great :) |
| 20:49.39 | sinplomo | http://klik.atekon.de/ |
| 20:50.17 | manveru | i think a combination of live-cd+klik could become rather cool |
| 20:50.27 | manveru | bad it's only for kde |
| 20:50.34 | manveru | (is it? :) |
| 20:51.02 | roxville | huh? |
| 20:52.00 | roxville | seems like a job for mariodebian then! |
| 20:52.05 | nomed | manveru, gnome is contributing to that proj |
| 20:52.48 | manveru | hmm, however - would it be hard integrating klik in elive? |
| 20:52.57 | nomed | it shouldn't |
| 20:53.19 | nomed | but i don't see it really usaful for a livecd :) |
| 20:53.19 | roxville | ok... if it's mostly for KDE, it is frigging PERFECT for elive!!! |
| 20:53.32 | nomed | when installed .. |
| 20:53.33 | nomed | yes |
| 20:53.38 | roxville | then we wouldn't have to smear the system down with KDE deps! |
| 20:53.42 | roxville | voila! |
| 20:54.12 | roxville | oh yes, for an installed elive |
| 20:54.15 | manveru | hmm, i don't think so |
| 20:54.33 | manveru | as far as i can see on their page there are indeed mostly gtk-apps |
| 20:55.38 | manveru | i have no idea tho how they handle dependencies or if they just pack everything in there |
| 20:56.01 | nomed | i think for the moment is something like checkinstall |
| 20:56.13 | nomed | it will include all headers and bin |
| 20:59.42 | manveru | well, my idea was that we could provide this stuff without cluttering the livecd |
| 21:00.12 | manveru | like - you want OOo - use klik for it... |
| 21:02.03 | roxville | hmmm manveru i'm not sure OO was a good example... it's a huge mothertruckin' app |
| 21:02.41 | manveru | that's why it is a good example - i could imagine some better stuff on a live-cd than openoffice... |
| 21:03.57 | roxville | yes i understand what you mean |
| 21:04.12 | roxville | but OO is so big and opens so slowly anyway... |
| 21:05.33 | manveru | you really think it can become even slower? |
| 21:06.21 | roxville | lol |
| 21:07.50 | manveru | "Command shells: Friendly user interfaces for beginners." ^^ |
| 21:10.28 | *** join/#elive KaKaRoTo-KS (n=kakaroto@209-161-239-11.dsl.look.ca) |
| 21:26.54 | roxville | another idea is to try other wm's... |
| 21:31.58 | Thanatermesis | <manveru> i think a combination of live-cd+klik could become rather cool |
| 21:32.02 | Thanatermesis | why if you have apt-get ? |
| 21:32.34 | manveru | it's a different approach |
| 21:33.17 | Thanatermesis | i don't found any good thing to use klick |
| 21:42.42 | roxville | Thanatermesis, it's a good idea for KDE apps... you won't install all the kde deps |
| 21:44.00 | Thanatermesis | not really |
| 21:44.07 | Thanatermesis | you NEED the dependencies |
| 21:44.10 | Thanatermesis | but from another way |
| 21:44.26 | Thanatermesis | the applications CANT be launched without the dependencies |
| 21:44.49 | Thanatermesis | is posible to are more little the "final binary file" than install all kde libs.. this is true |
| 21:45.14 | manveru | well, would it hurt to integrate klik? |
| 21:46.05 | *** join/#elive Elive_user2 (n=Elive_us@gbjordan.force9.co.uk) |
| 21:46.06 | manveru | i would never say that we _must_ have it, because it's neither good nor bad... it's just a possibility |
| 21:46.18 | Thanatermesis | but you install then "static" libs... if you launch 5 of this applications, you use your RAM 5 times and no only one (if you use dinamic libs), this is the good thing in linux... why switch to windows mode ? :) |
| 21:46.34 | manveru | true :) |
| 21:47.43 | manveru | hmm |
| 21:48.52 | roxville | Thanatermesis the applications CANT be launched without the dependencies <== ok, i thought the deps would be included in the app... and not touch the rest of the system |
| 21:49.06 | roxville | when you uninstall the app, the deps come out too |
| 21:49.22 | *** part/#elive mariodebian (n=mario@85-49-192-53.mad2.adsl.uni2.es) |
| 21:49.52 | roxville | and about the static libs... yes, this is why osx needs a lot of ram too nowadays |
| 21:50.10 | Thanatermesis | yeah |
| 21:50.15 | Thanatermesis | but this is again ugly |
| 21:50.41 | Thanatermesis | you are using another "packaging" way diferent to apt/dpkg |
| 21:50.59 | Thanatermesis | imagine you to have installed gnomebaker... |
| 21:51.11 | Thanatermesis | this don't needs really gnome libs.. but only a little |
| 21:51.27 | Thanatermesis | imagine you to need the file /usr/lib/bonobo.so.4 |
| 21:52.27 | Thanatermesis | what about if you install the package gnome-radio from klick and depends the same file ? then, the file original of the system is replaced for this, from another version.. and when you launch gnomebaker, you have a segfault |
| 21:52.48 | Thanatermesis | and of course, if you deinstall the klick package, you delete then the file of the system |
| 21:52.55 | roxville | ok... what i was after, was apps with all the deps in the package... the deps from other apps wouldn't be touched or used |
| 21:53.14 | Thanatermesis | this is a example, im pretty sure of klick don't makes the files in the normal system.. better in /opt.. |
| 21:54.11 | Thanatermesis | you have more then 16000 packages from apt-get |
| 21:54.50 | *** join/#elive bit0 (n=jose@61.Red-80-24-119.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:56.15 | roxville | Thanatermesis ... all i was thinking, was to keep the system "clean" of ugly dependencies from, say kde |
| 21:56.41 | roxville | i was not attacking apt-get, because apt-get is wonderful! |
| 21:56.55 | roxville | keep the system free from "ram-hogs" |
| 21:57.14 | Thanatermesis | in any case i don't like the "klick things", this the "ugly, fast, superficila... a ugly thing with a beatifull mask", Elive like's to are fast, slick, stable... powerfull... i don't want to make inestability or also "windows* things", and if i make things to slow the system... why use Elive ? why don't use fedora, unbuntu, red-hat, mandriva... ? |
| 21:57.16 | roxville | yes, static libs would use a lot of ram... |
| 21:57.59 | roxville | ok, i think thana has made his point :) |
| 22:08.22 | *** part/#elive bit0 (n=jose@61.Red-80-24-119.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 22:21.46 | *** join/#elive Elive_user2 (n=Elive_us@84.6.99.242) |
| 22:26.24 | *** join/#elive manveru (n=manveru@dsl-wien1-32-223.utaonline.at) |
| 22:38.36 | *** join/#elive forGET (n=forGET@200.106.102.138) |
| 23:14.04 | *** join/#elive saCUL (n=Elive_us@dsl-220-235-136-111.wa.westnet.com.au) |
| 23:14.53 | saCUL | hello |
| 23:18.57 | roxville | hi saCUL :) how are you today? how's sunday looking so far? just so i know, when it comes here |
| 23:22.42 | saCUL | hey roxville - had a bit of rain overnight but looks ok |
| 23:22.55 | saCUL | quite a cool summer so far |
| 23:24.21 | roxville | ok, sounds good :) |
| 23:24.41 | roxville | i had enough heat this summer for both of us! |
| 23:24.44 | saCUL | hows your saturday - your wife working or home |
| 23:25.06 | roxville | she's off tonight, but out and about right now |
| 23:25.37 | saCUL | we had our work xmas party last night - quite fun - but a big drinks tab for our boss!!! :-) |
| 23:25.45 | roxville | it's been a sparkling day here nice and crisp |
| 23:25.58 | roxville | oooh i bet! |
| 23:26.29 | saCUL | any news from Thanatermesis ? |
| 23:26.36 | roxville | you got hair on your toungue today? |
| 23:28.16 | saCUL | hehe - a bit |
| 23:28.16 | roxville | yeah, he's found someone to agree with him on the bug, and that gave him enough confidence to send a mail to the unionfs devs |
| 23:28.17 | roxville | but i think he's working on his own installer right now |
| 23:28.17 | saCUL | its a pity that he has to reinvent the wheel, so to speak |
| 23:29.13 | saCUL | just off to make some breakfast for my son |
| 23:29.22 | roxville | yeah it is... but he also enjoys this kind of stuff, i think... he likes to find something and really improve it |
| 23:29.29 | roxville | like the japanese |
| 23:29.49 | roxville | ok dude, have a nice breakfast :) |
| 23:51.21 | *** join/#elive nothingHappens (n=chuck@12-219-5-167.client.mchsi.com) |
| 23:56.01 | *** join/#elive Rasko|nikov (n=raskolni@162.Red-83-61-111.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 23:56.55 | roxville | saCUL, it actually wasn't the installer as much as unionfs itself... i think |
| 23:57.11 | roxville | there's a bug that they need to get on asap |
