| 00:21.31 | *** join/#elive _H_ (n=_H_@62-43-4-149.user.ono.com) |
| 00:25.30 | *** join/#elive Rasko|nikov (n=raskolni@150.Red-81-39-172.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 00:29.26 | *** join/#elive eshep (n=eric@32.236.109.219.ap.yournet.ne.jp) |
| 00:31.06 | eshep | hey everybody |
| 00:32.52 | *** join/#elive goldstein (n=Elive_us@a213-22-152-124.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 00:33.02 | goldstein | hello |
| 00:38.30 | eshep | hi goldstein |
| 00:39.36 | goldstein | i would like to use my laptop with two screens..i know i can do that in windows, but what about in linux? |
| 00:39.51 | goldstein | any one knows what its need? |
| 00:42.52 | eshep | did you have a look in your xorg.conf? |
| 00:52.55 | eshep | goldstein? aki? |
| 00:53.11 | goldstein | sorry, i was kind of away |
| 00:53.48 | goldstein | hum, i didnt yet:p i just was asking because one could use two monitors and know:) |
| 00:54.01 | goldstein | i havent search yet:) |
| 00:55.20 | eshep | i just asked over at #xorg, but out of 104 people, it seems none is home there |
| 00:56.35 | roxville | LOL |
| 00:56.51 | roxville | hey eshep bbs, goota put my daughter in bed |
| 00:57.05 | roxville | hi goldstein :) |
| 00:57.12 | goldstein | thx eshep:) |
| 00:57.26 | eshep | is that the eshep bulliten board? :) |
| 00:57.27 | quidam- | eshep, o/ |
| 00:57.28 | goldstein | hey Rox De Ville |
| 00:57.30 | quidam- | roxville, o/ |
| 00:57.38 | eshep | heyhey quidam- |
| 00:57.43 | quidam- | Mutacion, inche muta despierta¡¡¡ |
| 00:58.51 | quidam- | hey eshep i wnat a visit from jp in my blog -> http://quidam.psykho.net/ xDDD |
| 00:58.56 | quidam- | want* |
| 00:59.50 | eshep | damnit, that drives me nuts when people ask for help and then dont respond to your answer |
| 01:00.00 | eshep | no, not you goldstein |
| 01:00.37 | goldstein | :/ |
| 01:02.01 | goldstein | i am looking for housing in barcelona in a few sites, so i only check xchat when i hear the notification.. |
| 01:02.23 | *** join/#elive Rasko|nikov (n=raskolni@150.Red-81-39-172.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 01:02.35 | eshep | aha, i was talking about folks in #e |
| 01:06.12 | eshep | quidam-, it should show up, ive been there before... |
| 01:06.48 | quidam- | i dont see jp on the phpMyVisits :S |
| 01:07.00 | quidam- | only united states |
| 01:07.07 | quidam- | and europe |
| 01:12.47 | eshep | i just went there again... |
| 01:13.03 | roxville | goldstein, there are some good howto's on dual screen in the ubuntu wiki |
| 01:13.16 | roxville | and i think you can do it just via elpanel |
| 01:14.22 | eshep | thats yer answer for everything aint it..."just check the u wiki/forums" xD |
| 01:14.53 | eshep | but, hey...i use the shit out of em... |
| 01:15.03 | goldstein | roxville, i ve been looking on elpanel but didnt find..ill look on that wiki later |
| 01:16.30 | goldstein | lol |
| 01:17.04 | eshep | it seems like the only person that aknowledges my existance at #e is boneyfrog... |
| 01:17.44 | eshep | but i have an update for anyone that is having issues with engage |
| 01:17.47 | roxville | that's because your nick is not weird enough eshep |
| 01:17.47 | eshep | from boneyfrog: try using the source edj handyande has been dicking with it recently |
| 01:18.16 | eshep | aaaaaahhhh, thats what it is... |
| 01:18.16 | roxville | put some tingle tangle around the e, and you'll see that they'll start responding |
| 01:18.41 | roxville | dicking? LOL |
| 01:19.11 | eshep | it is in cvs at /misc/engage/data/themes/module.edc |
| 01:19.11 | roxville | can you say "blase' " ? |
| 01:19.33 | eshep | so i should use something like tinglesheptangle... |
| 01:20.16 | eshep | sounds a little dirty though :) |
| 01:20.20 | roxville | nah, more like {["e"]}shep |
| 01:20.30 | eshep | ooooooo |
| 01:20.48 | roxville | i got it! |
| 01:21.13 | roxville | >*e*<shep |
| 01:21.21 | roxville | nice eh? |
| 01:21.22 | goldstein | lol |
| 01:21.43 | eshep | boneyfrog all you would have to do is edj_decc module.edc from the carbon module-engage file and copy bh.png to <cvsdir>/misc/engage/data/themes/module/images/bg_h.png and do the same with bv.png and bg_v.png |
| 01:21.43 | eshep | boneyfrog the only difference that i could find between the old engage default theme and carbon's was the different background images, it hasnt been modified for color: based transparency |
| 01:22.02 | goldstein | [e]5h33p is more l33t |
| 01:22.03 | eshep | ooooo, i like that one |
| 01:22.34 | eshep | nah i have enough of that crap in my passwords |
| 01:22.39 | roxville | thx :) |
| 01:22.43 | goldstein | lol |
| 01:22.51 | eshep | i dont need it in my username as well |
| 01:23.07 | goldstein | r0Xv1113 |
| 01:23.20 | roxville | hehe |
| 01:23.34 | goldstein | you would nkow better the linux kernel, roxville |
| 01:24.06 | roxville | ok... |
| 01:24.06 | eshep | if i use goldsteins idea, ill not only be a geek, but ill look like one too... |
| 01:24.29 | roxville | eshep, you do look like a geek! |
| 01:24.36 | roxville | an old-scholl geek |
| 01:24.40 | roxville | school |
| 01:24.43 | eshep | ...better than my daughter...? |
| 01:24.47 | goldstein | too late my friend. |
| 01:24.53 | goldstein | lol |
| 01:24.53 | eshep | oh yeah... |
| 01:25.34 | goldstein | bye |
| 01:26.08 | roxville | night goldstein ! |
| 01:26.22 | goldstein | thx |
| 01:26.28 | roxville | np |
| 01:26.57 | eshep | old-scholl geek? like Alan Cox? |
| 01:28.56 | eshep | roxville, did you say your on e17 .022? |
| 01:29.29 | roxville | yep |
| 01:29.46 | roxville | did your nvidia drivers crap up after the upgrade? |
| 01:30.55 | roxville | it was probably the x-libmesa or something like that, that did it... dod to me |
| 01:31.04 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@wnpgmb06dc1-180-107.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 01:32.16 | roxville | hi nameles |
| 01:32.22 | nameles | Hi |
| 01:32.59 | nameles | Anyone know when the next version is coming out? I can't seem to find the road map any more. |
| 01:34.08 | roxville | soon |
| 01:34.26 | roxville | i about a week... maybe a few days more |
| 01:34.57 | *** join/#elive rl (n=rl@200.75.142.253) |
| 01:35.11 | roxville | there's a lot of updates right now that thana wants to include... we have to debug a little before he can put them on the cd |
| 01:35.32 | roxville | eshep roxville yep |
| 01:35.32 | roxville | roxville did your nvidia drivers crap up after the upgrade? |
| 01:35.32 | roxville | roxville it was probably the x-libmesa or something like that, that did it... did to me |
| 01:37.01 | nameles | So perhaps Santa will leave if for me under the tree? Of course Santa would need to be seeded first. |
| 01:38.17 | roxville | HEHE!! |
| 01:39.06 | roxville | thana is working on it! |
| 01:39.26 | roxville | he emailed santa today, but i don't know what he wrote |
| 01:40.14 | nameles | ok... I think Santa has a nice big pipe so that should not be an issue. |
| 01:41.11 | nameles | Elive is my favourite live CD... and I've tried lots of them. |
| 01:42.27 | roxville | i know mna, i feel the same |
| 01:42.31 | roxville | man |
| 01:46.32 | eshep | roxville, no i had no problem with drivers. just the e17 default theme |
| 01:48.53 | eshep | Thanatermesis, the evolume module segfaults after todays upgrade... |
| 01:49.03 | roxville | wow, ok... there was another update today... you do it? |
| 01:49.18 | roxville | lol... ok |
| 01:49.19 | eshep | yup :( |
| 01:49.28 | roxville | not fun |
| 01:49.32 | Thanatermesis | is posible... evolume don't "continues" the same compilation than efl |
| 01:49.39 | Thanatermesis | apt x es en seguir |
| 01:49.58 | Thanatermesis | roxville emblem works now :) |
| 01:49.59 | eshep | roxville, just do it...you got to sooner-or-later |
| 01:50.23 | eshep | hmmm |
| 01:52.25 | roxville | awesome Thanatermesis :) |
| 01:52.43 | roxville | eshep, huh? |
| 01:52.55 | roxville | the upgrade? or what? |
| 01:53.27 | eshep | yeah, the upgrade, silly |
| 01:53.33 | roxville | hehe |
| 01:53.47 | roxville | yes, i "did it" |
| 01:54.02 | eshep | it added a lot of crap to the e17 "config panel" |
| 01:54.31 | eshep | ...to bad it didnt incorperate elpanel into e17 though... |
| 01:55.18 | eshep | ha |
| 01:55.44 | eshep | Thanatermesis, it seems nobody likes you at #e either, huh |
| 01:55.51 | roxville | yup, i agree... and try to resize ibar |
| 01:56.00 | roxville | or change the shadow |
| 01:56.37 | eshep | ooooo, i didnt notice the ibar thing |
| 01:56.39 | roxville | i found the ibar thing... right-click in ibar (NOT IN EDIT MODE!) and you get a box with options |
| 01:56.51 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es it seems nobody likes you at #e either, huh |
| 01:57.44 | eshep | only "advanced users" can resize ibar now... |
| 01:58.06 | eshep | ...because of the high dificulty rating on it... |
| 01:58.07 | Thanatermesis | roxville ibar: right button of the mouse, set the options of ibar |
| 01:58.27 | roxville | roxville i found the ibar thing... right-click in ibar (NOT IN EDIT MODE!) and you get a box with options |
| 01:59.12 | roxville | yes thana i found it... but the modules menu was nice... why trash it? |
| 01:59.22 | Thanatermesis | roxville what is the anothers "bad things" in this update of you speak today ? |
| 01:59.29 | roxville | Thanatermesis, i apologize |
| 01:59.46 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es but the modules menu was nice... why trash it? |
| 01:59.50 | Thanatermesis | apt apologize |
| 01:59.52 | apt | ACTION apologizes to thanatermesis |
| 01:59.52 | roxville | it was the modules section in menu |
| 01:59.54 | roxville | i think |
| 02:00.03 | Thanatermesis | what is "apologize" ? |
| 02:00.15 | roxville | you say "i am sorry" |
| 02:00.44 | roxville | Thanatermesis apt apologize |
| 02:00.44 | roxville | * apt apologizes to thanatermesis |
| 02:00.47 | roxville | hehe.... |
| 02:02.02 | roxville | i erme you can only turn shadows on or off... you can't set the values |
| 02:02.14 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, because e17 is not finished, but the ppl speak all time for USE IT, no e17... the libs, the libs is in developement... in this moments is very "completed" but also continuing developing... and all the e17 things is "temporal things/programs/features", waiting a better thing, a better way to configuration... |
| 02:02.49 | Thanatermesis | look, before don't exists configurations of e17, after, only the command-line of enligthenment_remote (compate it to the configurations of e16), now, you have more configurations.... |
| 02:03.12 | roxville | ok :) |
| 02:03.42 | Thanatermesis | also, the idea is to make better, better writed, better look, better stable... and if is not better look, is also better writen... for example using the theme for the look/way of configuration, customizable better to fixed :) |
| 02:08.05 | Thanatermesis | eshep upgrade the evolume package now, reload E and try again if works good now |
| 02:08.11 | Thanatermesis | (idefix repository) |
| 02:09.09 | eshep | ok |
| 02:12.02 | eshep | Thanatermesis, do you have a problem with the engage systray? |
| 02:13.01 | Thanatermesis | hum, i don't use it |
| 02:13.26 | Thanatermesis | but i have ear about a future module for systray E |
| 02:13.28 | Thanatermesis | in* |
| 02:15.12 | eshep | cool |
| 02:17.37 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@ip70-173-51-18.fv.dl.cox.net) |
| 02:25.45 | roxville | would be cool to see how many elive_users have logged in and out like that since 0.3 came out... |
| 02:30.00 | eshep | roxville, we could tally em from the "chanlog" |
| 02:30.21 | roxville | ok... |
| 02:30.26 | eshep | Thanatermesis, evolume works now |
| 02:30.59 | eshep | あ |
| 02:30.59 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 02:31.37 | Thanatermesis | roxville this is easy |
| 02:32.01 | Thanatermesis | from: sep 02 07:58:51 |
| 02:32.09 | roxville | just the number |
| 02:32.10 | Thanatermesis | to now... |
| 02:32.29 | roxville | but not important, just interesting |
| 02:33.03 | eshep | is that with no duplicate n= |
| 02:33.31 | Thanatermesis | '--==(~/xchatlogs)==--> cat FreeNode-#elive.log | grep Elive_user | grep \\-\\-\> | sort | uniq | wc -l |
| 02:33.31 | Thanatermesis | 3734 |
| 02:33.49 | Thanatermesis | mhhh |
| 02:33.51 | Thanatermesis | wait |
| 02:34.29 | Thanatermesis | '--==(~/xchatlogs)==--> cat FreeNode-#elive.log | grep Elive_user | grep \\-\\-\> | sort | awk '{print $6}' | sort | uniq | wc -l |
| 02:34.29 | Thanatermesis | 2481 |
| 02:34.39 | Thanatermesis | this is with no duplicates, eshep |
| 02:34.49 | eshep | damn! |
| 02:34.58 | Thanatermesis | only diferents lines same to: |
| 02:35.03 | Thanatermesis | (n=Elive_us@zh6.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 02:35.03 | Thanatermesis | (n=Elive_us@zitadelle.olf.sgsnet.se) |
| 02:35.03 | Thanatermesis | (n=Elive_us@zr234.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 02:35.23 | Thanatermesis | same "ip's" not included, only diferents |
| 02:36.02 | Thanatermesis | 2480 persons from september... diferents persons with internet and enter in the IRC |
| 02:36.10 | eshep | cool, thats a butload in only a few months! |
| 02:36.35 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 02:36.39 | Thanatermesis | what for 0.4 ? :) |
| 02:37.14 | Thanatermesis | from my memory... more than 15.000 persons has downloaded Elive 0.3 ... from... mmmh, some months before... i don't have any idea about the actual numbers... |
| 02:38.24 | Thanatermesis | what posible % of the persons have internet in the world ? |
| 02:39.53 | eshep | why? you looking for world domination? |
| 02:40.01 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:40.01 | eshep | :) |
| 02:40.18 | Thanatermesis | world domination ? no.. i like to know the numbers :) |
| 02:40.23 | Thanatermesis | also for put it in my CV :) |
| 02:40.30 | eshep | + apt, makes 2481 :) |
| 02:40.44 | Thanatermesis | # Pour la version 0.1 : 1500 personnes l'ont téléchargé |
| 02:40.44 | Thanatermesis | # Pour la version 0.3 : 13000 personnes l'ont téléchargé |
| 02:40.46 | eshep | i know :) |
| 02:40.50 | roxville | eshep, a guy that lives in china loves elive and offered us help to translate elive inti chinese! |
| 02:40.50 | Thanatermesis | this is a part of my CV |
| 02:41.23 | eshep | cool, id like to see it in turkish though... xD |
| 02:41.35 | roxville | LOL |
| 02:41.41 | roxville | that guy was weird |
| 02:41.47 | eshep | right? |
| 02:44.00 | roxville | or... were you here when that dude came in and chatted in turkish only? |
| 02:44.14 | roxville | yes you were |
| 02:44.23 | roxville | you tried japanese with him |
| 02:47.26 | roxville | 13000... cool |
| 02:48.45 | quidam- | eshep, i see jp in my blog xDDDD |
| 02:48.59 | quidam- | es lo unico que faltaba en la prueba del php |
| 02:49.05 | quidam- | ver como muestra asi |
| 02:49.07 | quidam- | asia* |
| 02:49.11 | quidam- | thanks |
| 02:49.44 | eshep | cool, ill hit it from the house tonight too (different isp) |
| 02:49.59 | quidam- | xD |
| 02:50.07 | quidam- | i see "ne" |
| 02:50.12 | quidam- | its your isp? |
| 02:52.31 | roxville | lol |
| 02:52.35 | eshep | .ne=.net (*.ne.jp) |
| 02:53.14 | eshep | just whois my ip for the isp name |
| 03:13.47 | quidam- | roxville, howto you install other cursor on e17? |
| 03:14.09 | roxville | ask eshep quidam- |
| 03:14.30 | quidam- | eshep, i download the .tar but howto i install the cursor? |
| 03:14.53 | eshep | wow, somebody other than me finally asks the question... |
| 03:15.26 | roxville | oh, quidam- you extract it into /.e/something/icons |
| 03:15.33 | eshep | ok...you ready...here we go! |
| 03:15.58 | quidam- | xD |
| 03:16.04 | quidam- | well im ready |
| 03:16.07 | eshep | mkdir ~/mytheme |
| 03:16.34 | eshep | now what theme do you want to do it for? |
| 03:16.44 | quidam- | elive theme |
| 03:17.31 | eshep | cp ~/.e/e/themes/elive.edj ~/mytheme |
| 03:17.48 | eshep | cd ~/mytheme |
| 03:18.03 | eshep | edje_decc elive.edj |
| 03:19.35 | quidam- | :O |
| 03:19.37 | quidam- | WOW |
| 03:19.41 | eshep | now look inside ~/mytheme/elive with a evidence |
| 03:20.20 | quidam- | WOW |
| 03:20.23 | quidam- | more WOW |
| 03:20.25 | quidam- | xD |
| 03:20.50 | eshep | just a minute |
| 03:20.51 | roxville | lol |
| 03:22.08 | quidam- | roxville, WOW¡ |
| 03:22.11 | quidam- | ji ji ji |
| 03:23.49 | eshep | now we need to make a default_pointer.edc |
| 03:24.04 | eshep | so everybody vi default_pointer.edc |
| 03:25.39 | quidam- | i dont see _pointer |
| 03:25.41 | quidam- | :S |
| 03:27.19 | roxville | that's why you need to make it |
| 03:27.24 | eshep | just touch it |
| 03:27.30 | roxville | schlomo! |
| 03:27.33 | quidam- | roxville, more WOW xDDDD |
| 03:27.37 | eshep | then look here: http://phpfi.com/92785 |
| 03:29.21 | quidam- | eshep, you make this file? |
| 03:29.27 | eshep | ok, everyone caught up? |
| 03:29.42 | quidam- | yeah |
| 03:29.45 | eshep | touch default_pointer.edc |
| 03:29.51 | eshep | vi default_pointer.edc |
| 03:30.02 | eshep | scite default_pointer.edc |
| 03:30.11 | eshep | nano default_pointer.edc |
| 03:30.20 | eshep | pick one... |
| 03:30.30 | quidam- | im ready |
| 03:30.32 | quidam- | i use vi |
| 03:30.36 | quidam- | :P |
| 03:30.54 | eshep | the one n only... |
| 03:31.08 | eshep | ok, everyone caught up? |
| 03:31.35 | quidam- | apt x en es everyone caught up? |
| 03:31.48 | quidam- | yeah xD |
| 03:32.11 | eshep | paste everything from here: http://phpfi.com/92785 into default_pointer.edc |
| 03:32.23 | eshep | dont forget to i first |
| 03:32.36 | eshep | vi i=insert |
| 03:33.24 | quidam- | done¡ |
| 03:33.53 | eshep | now make a e17_pointer.png and e17_pointer_mono.png |
| 03:34.14 | eshep | and put them in ~/mytheme/elive |
| 03:34.52 | quidam- | i make e17_pointer.png whit my cursor file? |
| 03:35.30 | eshep | use whatever pointer you like...just make sure the bg is trans and the image is square (32x32) |
| 03:35.48 | quidam- | i dont have any cursor |
| 03:35.58 | quidam- | i see the .tar and i dont see any png |
| 03:36.00 | eshep | no, not from cursor file. just a plain ole .png |
| 03:36.12 | eshep | untar it...? |
| 03:36.19 | quidam- | do you have a png? |
| 03:36.19 | quidam- | xD |
| 03:37.09 | quidam- | apt x en es but he ain't gonna show it to quidam- |
| 03:37.09 | eshep | pull down "alpha cusrors" from gnome-look.org |
| 03:37.15 | eshep | LOL |
| 03:37.19 | quidam- | roxville, ¬¬ |
| 03:37.28 | quidam- | well wait |
| 03:37.40 | eshep | ok |
| 03:38.25 | eshep | http://www.gnome-look.org/content/download.php?content=22352&id=1 |
| 03:39.33 | eshep | quidam- |
| 03:39.49 | quidam- | xD |
| 03:40.10 | eshep | tar -xvf |
| 03:40.29 | eshep | or rclick in evidence |
| 03:42.36 | eshep | ready? |
| 03:44.49 | quidam- | done |
| 03:45.31 | eshep | did you put the png you want to use in ~/mytheme/elive ? |
| 03:45.52 | eshep | just use the same png for both... |
| 03:45.57 | quidam- | yeah |
| 03:46.17 | quidam- | ready for the next step |
| 03:46.18 | quidam- | :P |
| 03:46.45 | quidam- | roxville, my png its more cool :d |
| 03:46.47 | quidam- | xDDD |
| 03:46.53 | roxville | wait! i need to go peepee!!! |
| 03:47.01 | eshep | now vi ~/mytheme/elive/default.edc |
| 03:47.24 | eshep | just read^ later |
| 03:47.43 | roxville | there is no later... |
| 03:47.48 | quidam- | hmmmmmm |
| 03:48.01 | eshep | ok, ill pee too... |
| 03:48.11 | roxville | hehe |
| 03:49.17 | quidam- | #include "default_pointer.edc" right? |
| 03:49.19 | quidam- | xD |
| 03:50.57 | eshep | now yer catchin on |
| 03:51.47 | eshep | after that, just ./build.sh |
| 03:52.19 | eshep | cp elive.edj ~/.e/e/themes |
| 03:52.25 | eshep | and yer done |
| 03:53.03 | eshep | cp ~/.e/e/themes/elive.edj ~/.e/e/themes/elive.edj.bak |
| 03:53.13 | eshep | if you want to first |
| 03:54.14 | eshep | now from the lclick menu, goto Themes|elive.edj |
| 03:54.26 | eshep | and tell me if it worked |
| 03:56.28 | roxville | eshep, you had a hobby magician kit as a kid, didn't you? |
| 03:56.48 | roxville | you're quite a show man! |
| 03:57.07 | eshep | yup, i even went to a little magic class... |
| 03:57.22 | quidam- | COOOL¡ |
| 03:57.31 | quidam- | i have new pointer |
| 03:57.35 | quidam- | but¡ |
| 03:57.52 | eshep | but...even cooler...you can change the rest of the arrows too... |
| 03:57.58 | quidam- | i need change the pointer again xD |
| 03:59.50 | roxville | eshep, you did good man! good job! :) |
| 03:59.55 | eshep | quidam-, tell me when your ready to do the rest of your arrows... |
| 04:00.00 | eshep | thanks dude |
| 04:00.25 | quidam- | eshep, well i need first change my cursor xDDDDD |
| 04:00.31 | quidam- | i dont like this cursor |
| 04:00.33 | quidam- | xD |
| 04:00.42 | quidam- | roxville, clap clap clap |
| 04:00.44 | quidam- | xDDDD |
| 04:00.50 | roxville | finally! |
| 04:01.01 | quidam- | 14(04 Current Time 14)00 Hour: (07 12:01 AM 00)00 Day: (07 Wednesday 00)00 Date: (07 December 2100,07 2005 00) |
| 04:01.04 | quidam- | xDD |
| 04:01.18 | roxville | lol |
| 04:01.20 | quidam- | lol |
| 04:01.20 | quidam- | xD |
| 04:01.24 | quidam- | roxville, ¬¬ |
| 04:01.44 | eshep | :) |
| 04:01.52 | Thanatermesis | http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/nada-borrar5.jpg |
| 04:03.17 | eshep | Thanatermesis, so thats "the one"? |
| 04:04.02 | Thanatermesis | after one week of breaking my brain about a very strange problem... finally i have found the problem, caused by the zenity usage |
| 04:04.33 | Thanatermesis | and now, i don't found any problem, it has installed perfectly, with 2 kernels in the boot (debian 2.6.12 + 2.6.11 from liveCD)... :) |
| 04:04.37 | eshep | right...the zenity usage...why didnt i think of that... |
| 04:04.38 | roxville | there was a little roxville in the ram? |
| 04:04.59 | eshep | cool |
| 04:04.59 | Thanatermesis | perfect boot, with udev... ivman... |
| 04:05.10 | quidam- | Thanatermesis, por cierto, no puedo cargar el modulo rain |
| 04:05.22 | eshep | ooooooo, the "damned udev" |
| 04:05.23 | Thanatermesis | quidam- prueba desde erme |
| 04:05.56 | Thanatermesis | http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/nada-borrar5.jpg |
| 04:06.25 | quidam- | desde alli lo estoy haciendo |
| 04:06.31 | quidam- | pero mejor me lo dices otro dia |
| 04:06.34 | quidam- | ;) |
| 04:06.35 | eshep | hmmm, no gui... |
| 04:06.45 | roxville | lol |
| 04:06.54 | Thanatermesis | gui ? |
| 04:06.59 | Thanatermesis | its only a minimal iso |
| 04:07.11 | Thanatermesis | i have needed to use a lot of installations tests |
| 04:07.18 | Thanatermesis | more small.. more fast to install :) |
| 04:07.18 | roxville | and 16 ram disks? |
| 04:07.29 | Thanatermesis | 230 Mb iso |
| 04:07.37 | Thanatermesis | only with e16, no e17/efl/entrance |
| 04:07.57 | roxville | of course... |
| 04:08.24 | Thanatermesis | now, i can posible to test with normal CD :) |
| 04:11.15 | eshep | and ass |
| 04:11.24 | eshep | :) |
| 04:11.32 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es blow |
| 04:11.40 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 04:12.51 | roxville | hehe eshep wellif so, it was worth it :) |
| 04:13.00 | eshep | hmmmm |
| 04:13.30 | roxville | i prefer sunshine though |
| 04:13.47 | roxville | eshep, something wrong with the cigar? |
| 04:14.14 | roxville | they don't expire til... last year? |
| 04:14.18 | Thanatermesis | eshep do you have the link of the "silver" cursor in your bookmarks.. ? (for not search it...) |
| 04:14.44 | eshep | just a sec, wife-on-the-horn |
| 04:16.58 | eshep | http://www.gnome-look.org/content/download.php?content=5533&id=1 |
| 04:18.24 | Thanatermesis | who like's to try it ? (a person to not have it installed) |
| 04:18.28 | eshep | whooooooohooooooooooooooo! |
| 04:18.34 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 04:18.46 | eshep | quidam-, can do it... |
| 04:19.17 | quidam- | roxville, ¬¬ |
| 04:19.28 | quidam- | eshep, thanks¡ :D |
| 04:19.29 | eshep | apt, kick quidam- in the ass. |
| 04:19.31 | apt | bugger off sod! |
| 04:20.02 | eshep | apt, you bastard. bugger off yourself! |
| 04:20.05 | roxville | apt aplogize eshep |
| 04:20.28 | roxville | apt, aplogize eshep |
| 04:20.31 | eshep | he dont like you, i guess... |
| 04:20.42 | roxville | i guess |
| 04:20.44 | eshep | apt, say your sorry. |
| 04:20.45 | apt | your sorry. |
| 04:20.46 | roxville | apt, kiss |
| 04:20.48 | apt | hmm... kiss is keep it simple, stupid |
| 04:20.51 | eshep | nonono |
| 04:21.02 | roxville | hehehe.. |
| 04:21.20 | eshep | apt, tell eshep that your sorry. |
| 04:21.39 | roxville | no, it's you're |
| 04:21.54 | eshep | WOW, he msg'd me |
| 04:21.59 | eshep | apt No, eshep, I won't. (target invalid?) |
| 04:22.05 | roxville | apt, apologize to eshep |
| 04:22.06 | apt | eshep: n=chris is sorry for being a brainless terd and begs your forgiveness |
| 04:22.18 | roxville | hehe... |
| 04:22.19 | eshep | LMAO |
| 04:24.17 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es n=chris is sorry for being a brainless terd and begs your forgiveness |
| 04:24.36 | Thanatermesis | what is "apologize" ? |
| 04:25.24 | eshep | Thanatermesis, apologize=sorry |
| 04:25.26 | roxville | Thanatermesis, i explained that already... it is to say "i am sorry" |
| 04:25.42 | Thanatermesis | ah, ok |
| 04:26.18 | eshep | eshep apt, say your sorry. |
| 04:26.18 | eshep | apt your sorry. |
| 04:26.19 | Thanatermesis | ok, silvercursor added in idefix repository and looks to works :) |
| 04:26.28 | Thanatermesis | but i need a beta-tester... quidam- ? |
| 04:26.45 | eshep | go for it, go for it |
| 04:26.48 | roxville | eshep, did you miss that earlier? when thana asked apt: apt, apologize |
| 04:26.51 | quidam- | Thanatermesis, me llamabas? |
| 04:26.52 | quidam- | xD |
| 04:27.00 | roxville | apt: apt apologizes to thana |
| 04:27.02 | Thanatermesis | quidam- apt-get update && apt-get install silvercursor |
| 04:28.02 | quidam- | xD |
| 04:28.33 | eshep | quidam-, now you have to restart your xserver to see them |
| 04:28.48 | Thanatermesis | quidam-, luego reinicia las X y dime si tienes un bonito cursor plateado.. |
| 04:28.53 | Thanatermesis | yep |
| 04:29.05 | eshep | ctrl+alt+bksp |
| 04:29.20 | quidam- | ok ok |
| 04:29.28 | quidam- | primero actualizo:P |
| 04:29.31 | quidam- | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:30.11 | roxville | nono, in spanish keyboards it's: ctrlo+alto+retardo |
| 04:30.24 | eshep | roxville sips his mate <--- i though thats what austrailian transformers did? |
| 04:30.32 | eshep | aha |
| 04:30.38 | quidam- | roxville, eso es en sespañol? |
| 04:30.38 | roxville | LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:30.43 | quidam- | es en epañol*? |
| 04:30.46 | quidam- | xDDDDD |
| 04:31.30 | roxville | eshep, you are on a ROLL!!! |
| 04:31.41 | roxville | quidam-, si |
| 04:31.58 | quidam- | xD |
| 04:32.02 | quidam- | retardo? |
| 04:32.04 | quidam- | jajajaja |
| 04:32.09 | roxville | lol |
| 04:32.17 | roxville | it's the best i could think of |
| 04:32.26 | quidam- | well brb |
| 04:32.39 | eshep | ROLL? ReadingOutLoudLisp? i dont have one of those... |
| 04:33.33 | roxville | mate` |
| 04:33.46 | roxville | mate' |
| 04:33.58 | roxville | damn, i don't have that... |
| 04:35.13 | eshep | yep, keep settin me up... |
| 04:35.28 | roxville | hehe... |
| 04:35.53 | roxville | that wouldv'e been cool to show saCUL |
| 04:36.01 | roxville | hmmm wonder where he is? |
| 04:36.17 | Thanatermesis | eshep what about your entrance theme ? |
| 04:36.18 | roxville | probably playing with foresight |
| 04:36.25 | eshep | he could just check the chanlog... |
| 04:37.16 | eshep | Thanatermesis, its been cloudy here for a couple weeks now. no good picture time... |
| 04:37.52 | Thanatermesis | entrance -T -t default |
| 04:38.02 | eshep | Thanatermesis, you want me to bang one out real quick with what i have? |
| 04:38.18 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es you want me to bang one out real quick with what i have? |
| 04:38.45 | eshep | for the cd? |
| 04:38.52 | eshep | default? |
| 04:38.56 | eshep | yuck |
| 04:39.06 | Thanatermesis | im not sure.. i need to fix the entrance problem before the release... or make a thing... |
| 04:39.14 | Thanatermesis | create a theme is a slow and delicate thing |
| 04:39.27 | Thanatermesis | apt x es en vísteme despacio que tengo prisa |
| 04:39.37 | Thanatermesis | apt x es en visteme despacio que tengo prisa |
| 04:39.42 | eshep | i know... |
| 04:40.03 | Thanatermesis | the default theme not is good ? |
| 04:40.25 | eshep | its too........normal? |
| 04:40.31 | Thanatermesis | yes :) |
| 04:40.35 | Thanatermesis | i also... i don't like very |
| 04:40.45 | Thanatermesis | but is complete and works... |
| 04:40.57 | Thanatermesis | another solution is "fix" the darkrock theme... |
| 04:41.02 | eshep | maybe Nebulous with my bg? |
| 04:41.07 | Thanatermesis | but the problem not is from the theme, but from the code |
| 04:42.27 | eshep | ill test it real quick... |
| 04:43.51 | Thanatermesis | and Nebulous has also the same problem of darkrock... |
| 04:43.56 | Thanatermesis | entrance -T -t Nebulous |
| 04:44.47 | eshep | the wm click prob? |
| 04:44.53 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 04:45.04 | Thanatermesis | what about quidam- ? quidam- ? |
| 04:45.47 | roxville | eshep, could you get me a pic of the word enlightenment in japanese? |
| 04:45.54 | roxville | a big MF |
| 04:45.56 | eshep | its the same image as the popup ones, right? |
| 04:46.13 | Thanatermesis | E in japanese ? exist a lot from get-e.org and rasterman.com :) |
| 04:46.25 | roxville | oh yeah! |
| 04:46.42 | eshep | yes, check rasters site |
| 04:47.01 | Thanatermesis | eshep im not sure... very posible, but this image not is FROM the edje... is from the code, and the code set it with events, the layer are upper than the real part of the events for the click and menu appears |
| 04:47.08 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 04:47.27 | eshep | hmmmmm |
| 04:47.53 | eshep | who is the entrance dev anyway? |
| 04:48.07 | Thanatermesis | xcomp |
| 04:48.11 | Thanatermesis | i have noticed it... |
| 04:48.17 | Thanatermesis | but he looks a little busy |
| 04:48.50 | Thanatermesis | im posible send a mail to ML |
| 04:51.42 | eshep | i asked him, but nobody ever answers me at #e... |
| 04:52.53 | Thanatermesis | i have ping'ed before xcomp... without response for this moments.. |
| 04:53.29 | eshep | bonyfrog usually answers, ill ask him |
| 05:02.57 | roxville | lol |
| 05:05.12 | *** join/#elive minddog (n=minddog@ip68-226-104-35.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 05:07.13 | Thanatermesis | apt x es en detrás |
| 05:10.39 | Thanatermesis | --------------- |
| 05:10.42 | Thanatermesis | After some time, aparently from a modification in the libs (im not sure), entrance has a problem when you click in the button of the xsession selection, the window-manager list, this issue only don't affects to the default theme, all the another themes are afected. |
| 05:10.42 | Thanatermesis | Exist a RECT part in the edje interface, with the mouse_events for if you click on it, the menu appears, but the code of the program put on it a image with the last WM used, aparently the layer of this image are upper than the invisible RECT, and accept events, because this, the user click on this image and the menu don't appears... the only way is to click in behind of this image, but this is a ugly solution :) |
| 05:10.42 | Thanatermesis | I have tried to fix it from the edje code, but is from the C code... i have tried to found the problem but i don't know the API, and i don't have coded in C in all my life... |
| 05:10.45 | Thanatermesis | This is a example of the problem colorizing the RECT part of need to give events: http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/entrance-bug-menusession.jpg |
| 05:10.48 | Thanatermesis | Thanatermesis |
| 05:10.52 | Thanatermesis | -------------- |
| 05:10.54 | Thanatermesis | is good this e-mail for the ML ? |
| 05:11.02 | Thanatermesis | good explained ? |
| 05:11.40 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:12.12 | roxville | yeah, looks ok! :) |
| 05:12.18 | *** join/#elive Elive_user29990 (n=Elive_us@4-64.242.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 05:12.46 | eshep | roxville, im using your xcf... |
| 05:13.09 | roxville | oh |
| 05:15.03 | eshep | "EliveUser: hmmmmm, whats this icon do?" |
| 05:17.43 | roxville | nono.. check the IP |
| 05:17.53 | Thanatermesis | e-mail sent |
| 05:18.23 | roxville | good :) |
| 05:18.28 | roxville | hope he replies |
| 05:20.28 | eshep | hmmmm |
| 05:20.56 | roxville | it's an elive_user we know very well.. |
| 05:21.04 | *** join/#elive quidam- (n=quidam-@200.90.86.140) |
| 05:21.15 | quidam- | ha fallecido en la paz del creador |
| 05:21.18 | quidam- | mi elive |
| 05:21.22 | quidam- | : '( |
| 05:21.28 | Thanatermesis | que paso quidam- ? |
| 05:21.43 | quidam- | oremos todos porque a dejado de funcionar |
| 05:21.44 | quidam- | xDDDDD |
| 05:22.01 | quidam- | pues Thanatermesis reinicie las x y no volvieron a arrancar |
| 05:22.02 | quidam- | xD |
| 05:22.10 | eshep | the skynet? |
| 05:22.32 | eshep | so thats the culprit? |
| 05:22.40 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 05:22.44 | eshep | damn stat-padders! |
| 05:22.46 | Thanatermesis | quidam- puedes acceder a la consola ? |
| 05:22.52 | quidam- | pues si |
| 05:22.54 | quidam- | actualiza |
| 05:22.58 | quidam- | actualize* |
| 05:23.07 | eshep | quidam- oremos todos porque a dejado de funcionar <--- it works? |
| 05:23.08 | quidam- | y reinstale el entrance porque casi siempre me lo elimina |
| 05:23.11 | quidam- | cuando actualizo |
| 05:23.20 | roxville | ok, i gotta go to bed... see y'all tomorrow |
| 05:23.21 | Thanatermesis | quidam- en este fichero, cambia "silver" por "core" /etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme |
| 05:23.25 | roxville | good luck ppl |
| 05:23.25 | eshep | gnight |
| 05:23.42 | Thanatermesis | i also in some minutes... |
| 05:23.45 | Thanatermesis | good night roxville |
| 05:23.55 | roxville | good night :) |
| 05:24.15 | quidam- | roxville, bye |
| 05:24.26 | quidam- | Thanatermesis, edito ese fichero |
| 05:24.42 | quidam- | dejame crear un archivo para leerlo desde el elive |
| 05:24.52 | Thanatermesis | dime que pone en ese fichero |
| 05:25.48 | quidam- | silver :S |
| 05:27.42 | quidam- | no tengo x x'D |
| 05:28.08 | quidam- | creo que es hora de probar elive 0.4 |
| 05:28.09 | quidam- | xD |
| 05:28.16 | quidam- | querias un beta tester? |
| 05:28.21 | quidam- | aca hay uno xDDDDD |
| 05:30.55 | Thanatermesis | jeje |
| 05:31.03 | Thanatermesis | bueno, el instalador por fin parece funcionar ;) |
| 05:31.20 | Thanatermesis | mañana le daré los ultimos toques al instalador y sigo con los tickets que quedan... |
| 05:31.37 | Thanatermesis | tambien necesito que me prueben mas elpanel.. no me han reportado bugs todavia.. |
| 05:31.44 | Thanatermesis | bueno, hora de ir a dormir... mañana nos vemos |
| 05:31.59 | Thanatermesis | cambia silver por "core" o whiteglass, deberia de funcionar |
| 05:32.03 | Thanatermesis | buenas noches |
| 05:32.18 | eshep | gnight |
| 05:32.32 | eshep | quidam-, do your pointers work now? |
| 05:33.03 | ThanaZzzz | 'night all |
| 05:33.41 | eshep | gnight |
| 05:33.41 | quidam- | weno haremos ese cambio |
| 05:33.49 | quidam- | eshep, my x dont work |
| 05:33.52 | quidam- | xD |
| 05:34.11 | eshep | that sucks |
| 05:34.57 | quidam- | well i go to try again |
| 05:45.52 | *** join/#elive quidam- (n=quidam@200.90.80.170) |
| 05:46.01 | quidam- | well my x dont work |
| 05:46.08 | eshep | damn! that was quick |
| 05:46.13 | eshep | still? |
| 05:46.17 | quidam- | and im chat whit bitchx |
| 05:46.18 | quidam- | xD |
| 05:46.21 | eshep | what did you do? |
| 05:46.30 | quidam- | only restart the x |
| 05:46.49 | quidam- | i dont do anymore |
| 05:47.17 | eshep | type entranced as root |
| 05:47.28 | quidam- | dont work |
| 05:47.29 | quidam- | i try |
| 05:47.32 | quidam- | :( |
| 05:47.42 | eshep | error? |
| 05:48.04 | quidam- | sisplay number is 0 |
| 05:48.09 | quidam- | display* |
| 05:48.13 | eshep | ????? |
| 05:48.17 | quidam- | xS |
| 05:48.22 | eshep | ah |
| 05:49.37 | quidam- | i dont understand |
| 05:49.41 | quidam- | :( |
| 05:50.01 | eshep | try elive-skel upgrade |
| 05:50.05 | eshep | .xsession |
| 05:50.49 | quidam- | all my system is upgrade |
| 05:50.57 | quidam- | and dist-upgrade |
| 05:52.39 | quidam- | well maybe tomorrow this work xD |
| 05:52.45 | quidam- | i go to sleep |
| 05:52.53 | eshep | elive-skel is for after upgrade |
| 05:53.26 | quidam- | hmmm |
| 05:53.48 | quidam- | well tomorrow i do this |
| 05:54.30 | quidam- | i drive myself crazy and is not a good signal xDDDDDDDD |
| 05:54.32 | eshep | ok, gnight |
| 05:55.02 | quidam- | i love elive but sometimes is no nice :( |
| 05:55.25 | quidam- | well night all |
| 07:05.50 | *** join/#elive saCUL (n=Elive_us@203.161.90.201.dyn.amnet.net.au) |
| 07:10.07 | *** join/#elive eshep_win (n=eshep@32.236.109.219.ap.yournet.ne.jp) |
| 07:24.44 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@p5493C0F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:27.05 | *** join/#elive maxtoo (n=maxtoo@AOrleans-154-1-10-132.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:29.53 | *** join/#elive goretoxo (n=goretoxo@213.201.103.2) |
| 10:44.44 | *** join/#elive _H_ (n=_H_@62-43-4-149.user.ono.com) |
| 11:04.55 | *** join/#elive rookmoot_ (n=rookmoot@ANantes-256-1-19-23.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:25.06 | *** join/#elive saCUL (n=Elive_us@dsl-202-173-165-16.wa.westnet.com.au) |
| 11:55.52 | *** join/#elive forGET (n=forGET@200.106.124.231) |
| 12:24.40 | *** join/#elive ushep (n=eric@219-113-75-108.dynamic.tontonme.ne.jp) |
| 12:33.02 | *** join/#elive EggMan (n=eggman@pool-71-243-135-130.buff.east.verizon.net) |
| 12:33.09 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@pool-71-243-135-130.buff.east.verizon.net) |
| 12:37.31 | *** join/#elive roxville (n=chris@pcp02417389pcs.jamsis01.sc.comcast.net) |
| 12:38.12 | roxville | hi there ppl :) |
| 12:50.41 | *** join/#elive Elive_user2 (n=Elive_us@ftth-239-143.hive.is) |
| 13:16.19 | roxville | ok, i'm going out for a bit, bbl |
| 13:22.00 | *** join/#elive Rasko|nikov (n=raskolni@150.Red-81-39-172.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:30.09 | *** join/#elive dats (n=dats@33.Red-213-98-129.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:40.56 | *** join/#elive CGA (n=CGA@213-156-52-117.fastres.net) |
| 13:41.31 | CGA | hola =) |
| 14:09.22 | *** join/#elive goretoxo (n=goretoxo@213.201.103.2) |
| 14:18.11 | *** join/#elive quidam- (n=quidam@200.90.86.39) |
| 14:18.22 | quidam- | wenas |
| 14:18.28 | quidam- | sigo sin x |
| 14:18.32 | quidam- | x( |
| 14:29.32 | Mutacion | haha |
| 14:29.34 | Mutacion | instalaselas! |
| 14:31.27 | quidam- | Mutacion |
| 14:31.38 | quidam- | fijate que actualize el sistema |
| 14:31.40 | quidam- | y me quede sin x |
| 14:31.42 | quidam- | xD |
| 14:31.47 | Mutacion | lol xD |
| 14:31.51 | quidam- | y no me lo vas a creer |
| 14:31.53 | Mutacion | a mi tmb me ha pasado..peor con elive |
| 14:31.59 | quidam- | no estan instaladas :S |
| 14:32.25 | quidam- | y mi unica salida para poder acceder al irc fue con bitchx |
| 14:32.27 | quidam- | :P |
| 14:32.55 | quidam- | quitenme el video las X el entrance PERO NO ME QUITARAN EL IRC xDDD |
| 14:33.09 | Mutacion | hahahahaha |
| 14:33.16 | Mutacion | y el sonido con mpg123 |
| 14:33.33 | quidam- | mpg123? hmmm no lo sabia |
| 14:33.39 | quidam- | puedo reproducir desde consola? |
| 14:33.42 | quidam- | COOL |
| 14:33.44 | quidam- | xD |
| 14:33.45 | Mutacion | claro!! |
| 14:33.54 | Mutacion | $ mpg123 file.mp3 |
| 14:33.55 | quidam- | AL CARAJO EL VIDEO |
| 14:34.03 | quidam- | me quedo con la consola |
| 14:34.05 | quidam- | xDDDDDD |
| 14:34.07 | Mutacion | hahaha |
| 14:34.12 | quidam- | oye |
| 14:34.16 | quidam- | un navegador? |
| 14:34.25 | Mutacion | lynx |
| 14:35.00 | quidam- | ok ok |
| 14:35.05 | quidam- | xDDD |
| 14:35.47 | Mutacion | si es modo texto..preguntaselo a mutacion xD amo y senior de las consolas |
| 14:35.48 | Mutacion | jijiji |
| 14:35.53 | Mutacion | consolas en modo txto |
| 14:36.40 | quidam- | pues Mutacion eres mi heroe xDDDD |
| 14:36.46 | quidam- | esto es jodio sin video |
| 14:36.52 | quidam- | pero ahora me acostumbrare |
| 14:36.53 | quidam- | xD |
| 14:37.49 | Mutacion | haha :P y esperate a bajar cosas por el irssi o por bittorrent jojo |
| 14:39.03 | quidam- | ufffffffff |
| 14:39.07 | quidam- | tengo sonido |
| 14:39.08 | quidam- | xDDDD |
| 14:39.33 | Mutacion | con mpg? |
| 14:39.34 | quidam- | ya vuelvo |
| 14:39.37 | quidam- | sip |
| 14:39.41 | Mutacion | xD |
| 14:39.44 | quidam- | ya vuelvo voy a desayunar :P |
| 14:39.47 | Mutacion | la terminal es tu amiga jojojo |
| 14:39.51 | Mutacion | yo tmb qiero! |
| 14:39.55 | quidam- | xD |
| 14:45.52 | roxville | es Mutacion , quidam- |
| 14:46.01 | roxville | ese |
| 14:47.35 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@blk-137-78-109.eastlink.ca) |
| 14:48.07 | roxville | hello el... |
| 14:48.25 | roxville | el usario elive |
| 14:55.16 | quidam- | ya volvi |
| 14:55.21 | quidam- | hi roxville |
| 14:56.13 | Mutacion | ese rox |
| 15:02.43 | Mutacion | postea desde consola xD |
| 15:04.03 | roxville | lord of war... is it good? |
| 15:05.30 | quidam- | brb |
| 15:05.37 | Mutacion | i dunno :P i have just start seeing it |
| 15:11.06 | *** join/#elive quidam- (n=quidam-@200.90.86.206) |
| 15:11.12 | quidam- | ya tengo x¡¡¡¡ |
| 15:11.14 | quidam- | xDDDDD |
| 15:11.16 | quidam- | dios¡ |
| 15:11.21 | quidam- | esta vez fue dificil xDDDD |
| 15:11.33 | Mutacion | de nuevo x? pues qe hiciste para recuperarlas? |
| 15:11.49 | quidam- | las reinstale xDDDDDD |
| 15:11.54 | quidam- | no estaban instaladas :S |
| 15:15.16 | *** join/#elive she_died (n=icechat5@adsl-215-50-249.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 15:15.46 | roxville | ahoy there, miami |
| 15:16.00 | she_died | hi roxville |
| 15:16.09 | she_died | how ya doin |
| 15:16.34 | roxville | sorry, my daughter is watching "The Wiggles" on disney channel |
| 15:16.44 | she_died | how old is she |
| 15:16.47 | she_died | 3? |
| 15:16.53 | roxville | i'm pretty god! :) how about you? |
| 15:16.58 | roxville | yeah, 3 |
| 15:17.06 | roxville | lol good |
| 15:17.13 | she_died | i'm 'maintainin' |
| 15:17.15 | roxville | not god.... far from it |
| 15:17.36 | roxville | that's good...or ok...or pretty cool |
| 15:17.52 | she_died | you wish they stay that age forever |
| 15:17.57 | she_died | the kid i mean |
| 15:18.14 | roxville | ehh no. not this age |
| 15:18.16 | roxville | no |
| 15:18.26 | roxville | no no |
| 15:18.33 | she_died | why |
| 15:18.43 | roxville | defiancy |
| 15:18.51 | she_died | not |
| 15:18.51 | she_died | oh i see |
| 15:19.11 | roxville | 4-5 is supposed to be better... i sure hope so :) |
| 15:20.18 | she_died | then you'll look forward to it |
| 15:20.27 | she_died | their vocabulary is a little solid by then |
| 15:20.37 | she_died | and u can have decent conversation with ther |
| 15:20.52 | roxville | yeah... i gotta work more on her swedish though |
| 15:20.54 | *** join/#elive hagisbash (n=Elive_us@ACD6A64D.ipt.aol.com) |
| 15:21.07 | *** part/#elive hagisbash (n=Elive_us@ACD6A64D.ipt.aol.com) |
| 15:21.12 | roxville | she understands me fine, but she needs to speak it more, too |
| 15:21.25 | she_died | how many languages u know? |
| 15:21.35 | she_died | not counting perl/python/bash |
| 15:21.58 | Mutacion | hahahah xD |
| 15:22.28 | roxville | mainly swedish (my native) and english... then a few phrases here and there in finnish, german... |
| 15:22.52 | roxville | maybe some others too... she woke me up early, i'm too tired to think! lol |
| 15:23.03 | roxville | i'll make some more tea |
| 15:23.26 | Mutacion | qe sean dos |
| 15:23.27 | roxville | hehe, that's a good one... and i hardly know those at all |
| 15:25.01 | she_died | Does she raise her milk and say skl? |
| 15:29.43 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@morel.udn.pl) |
| 15:30.15 | roxville | hehe... wow, very good? |
| 15:30.27 | roxville | hello Elive_user :) |
| 15:30.34 | Elive_user | hello :) |
| 15:30.44 | she_died | hey there Elive |
| 15:31.04 | Elive_user | yes? |
| 15:31.08 | roxville | she_died, type eli and hit tab |
| 15:31.31 | roxville | what can we do for ya today eli |
| 15:31.34 | roxville | lol |
| 15:31.54 | she_died | we were just talkin about em the other day |
| 15:32.03 | roxville | skal |
| 15:32.14 | she_died | faster than my speeding tabs |
| 15:32.28 | roxville | skål |
| 15:32.45 | roxville | yep, he was fast |
| 15:32.56 | roxville | he said hi... thatäs pretty good, most donät |
| 15:33.22 | she_died | no rox, I know u can say it |
| 15:33.22 | she_died | teach the baby to say it |
| 15:33.22 | she_died | Hi and bye |
| 15:33.23 | she_died | just a puff of smoke |
| 15:33.36 | she_died | like the Taz devil in the cartoon |
| 15:33.43 | she_died | or roadrunner |
| 15:33.49 | roxville | lol |
| 15:34.06 | roxville | skål |
| 15:34.32 | she_died | wait are you using a reg keyboard |
| 15:34.43 | she_died | or did u have one flown in :-) |
| 15:34.58 | roxville | lol |
| 15:35.22 | roxville | itäs a regular us american keyb |
| 15:35.43 | she_died | you're just hitting key combos |
| 15:35.46 | she_died | is that it |
| 15:36.21 | roxville | and i can never remember where the .-§12!"#¤%&//(())===???Åöö-.ä,. is... damn |
| 15:36.57 | roxville | i donät even have it set up that way... i open kebconf every time... |
| 15:37.04 | she_died | You got most everything except the and the Eurodollar heh |
| 15:37.23 | roxville | i dunno where it is |
| 15:37.54 | roxville | no å is there as a capital |
| 15:38.01 | roxville | lol |
| 15:38.17 | roxville | ''' |
| 15:38.25 | roxville | there, back to normal |
| 15:38.42 | she_died | wait you're going all ASCII on me |
| 15:38.43 | roxville | so where did you pick up the swedish |
| 15:38.54 | she_died | i cheated |
| 15:39.17 | roxville | hehe..you show me your ASCII, i'll show you mine... |
| 15:39.21 | she_died | went to http://www-lexikon.nada.kth.se/skolverket/swe-eng.shtml |
| 15:43.35 | she_died | hold on, i'm checking out get-e.org |
| 15:44.35 | roxville | lol, ok |
| 15:50.21 | she_died | man, didnt know some new themes are there |
| 15:50.38 | she_died | they have some dark ones now |
| 15:51.00 | she_died | cause I dont think this TFT could take too much white |
| 15:54.15 | *** join/#elive forGET (n=forGET@200.121.125.14) |
| 15:54.16 | roxville | lol |
| 15:54.41 | roxville | really? the bog out? |
| 15:54.50 | roxville | they...TFT's |
| 15:55.01 | she_died | it gets too white |
| 15:55.11 | she_died | so the thin lines dont show |
| 15:55.21 | she_died | thats why in the snapshot |
| 15:55.32 | she_died | i got my Eterm large |
| 15:55.36 | she_died | to tone it down |
| 15:55.45 | roxville | ok |
| 15:55.59 | she_died | or maybe its my eyesight... |
| 15:56.05 | she_died | too lat eof rtha tnow ...lol |
| 15:56.15 | roxville | LOL |
| 15:56.51 | she_died | cant even type worth a dam |
| 15:57.04 | roxville | hehe |
| 15:57.47 | she_died | maybe i'll get the carbon theme |
| 15:57.55 | roxville | neither can i... i was better in high school... but that was a long time ago |
| 15:58.22 | she_died | far longer for me |
| 15:58.28 | she_died | now that u mention it |
| 15:58.28 | roxville | yeah, it's nice... eshep is working on optimizing it with a gtk theme and other things |
| 15:58.45 | she_died | wiat when u mention gtk, |
| 15:58.51 | she_died | is that something separate |
| 15:58.59 | she_died | like a theme to download or a skin |
| 15:59.06 | she_died | i keep reading about gtk port |
| 15:59.11 | she_died | of this n that |
| 15:59.13 | roxville | lol |
| 15:59.17 | roxville | open elpanel |
| 15:59.29 | she_died | and... |
| 15:59.32 | she_died | ? |
| 15:59.45 | roxville | click the screen icon |
| 16:00.02 | roxville | choose whatever e you're on |
| 16:00.19 | roxville | and there's a gtk theme selector |
| 16:01.29 | she_died | the reason i havent played with elpanel |
| 16:01.38 | she_died | i used it once to fix screen rez |
| 16:01.43 | she_died | or tried to |
| 16:02.00 | she_died | and it couldnt open xconfig or something |
| 16:02.03 | *** join/#elive eshep (n=eric@219-113-75-108.dynamic.tontonme.ne.jp) |
| 16:02.22 | she_died | Hello eshep |
| 16:02.30 | eshep | hey, whats up |
| 16:02.49 | she_died | funny we were just talking about carbon |
| 16:03.08 | she_died | going to play with it today |
| 16:03.15 | eshep | its nice |
| 16:03.19 | roxville | yeah she_died that one don't work for me either... try to remember to tell thana that |
| 16:03.20 | *** join/#elive minddog (n=minddog@206-169-48-226.gen.twtelecom.net) |
| 16:03.31 | roxville | hi eshep ... can't sleep? |
| 16:03.32 | eshep | that one what? |
| 16:03.41 | roxville | hi minddog |
| 16:03.44 | she_died | brb |
| 16:03.46 | eshep | just got done shootin people |
| 16:03.51 | eshep | bf2... |
| 16:03.54 | roxville | she_died the reason i havent played with elpanel |
| 16:03.54 | roxville | she_died i used it once to fix screen rez |
| 16:03.54 | roxville | she_died or tried to |
| 16:03.54 | roxville | she_died and it couldnt open xconfig or something |
| 16:04.04 | minddog | heyas roxville |
| 16:05.19 | roxville | how's things today? |
| 16:05.25 | roxville | thingy? |
| 16:06.03 | she_died | rox and i were talking about xconfig in elpanel, eshep |
| 16:06.09 | eshep | hey roxville check these out: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31480 http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=27913 |
| 16:06.24 | eshep | hadnt used it |
| 16:06.41 | roxville | but it's called something elise... i tried to apt-get xconfig... but...nope |
| 16:06.41 | eshep | my damned laptop only goes up to 10x7 |
| 16:07.08 | eshep | elise is an efl app aint it? |
| 16:07.26 | roxville | wtf is elise? |
| 16:07.53 | eshep | i dunno, thats all i had... :) |
| 16:08.10 | roxville | hehe |
| 16:08.57 | roxville | those are nice! i told nomed to get rid of the silver one in dss coz it didn't match...i gotta find him another one |
| 16:09.09 | she_died | eshep, counterstrike? |
| 16:09.14 | roxville | so i don't just complain all the time :) |
| 16:10.08 | eshep | eshep bf2... |
| 16:10.12 | *** join/#elive neighborlee (n=neighbor@d30-172.rb.gh.centurytel.net) |
| 16:10.28 | roxville | hi neighborlee, how are ya? |
| 16:10.31 | neighborlee | does anyone know if we're nearing 0.4 ? ;-) |
| 16:10.38 | neighborlee | roxville, been better but its minor.. |
| 16:10.59 | eshep | there was a nice cool "shiny blue" one... |
| 16:11.18 | roxville | yeah, that one would look cool in dss |
| 16:11.38 | neighborlee | roxville, I bought a dvd drive from hammer storage..its missing some vital software and I just called company and they said ohoh I can't help you..take box back and hope you get the software in the next 'box'..like WTH ?lol |
| 16:11.44 | roxville | neighborlee, thana made a test iso last night... it went well |
| 16:11.54 | roxville | he's gonna try a larger iso today |
| 16:11.58 | neighborlee | kewl |
| 16:12.11 | she_died | any chance of getting day0 leakwarez LOL |
| 16:12.15 | roxville | i dcc'd cigars to everyone to celebrate... you missed it |
| 16:12.17 | eshep | yeah, maby with gui? |
| 16:12.41 | she_died | itll be allover the news |
| 16:12.50 | neighborlee | roxville, do you by chance know if most devices will autodetect when plugged in , and will he have code in place to allow ejecting media via eject button on drive ? |
| 16:12.58 | roxville | geez neighborlee !! what a company! |
| 16:13.07 | neighborlee | yeah thats what I thought |
| 16:13.25 | roxville | neighborlee, try it! is it usb? |
| 16:13.34 | neighborlee | all is |
| 16:13.56 | neighborlee | my main concern is about automagic mount..but mainly that eject works via eject button on drive |
| 16:14.12 | neighborlee | i'd like to suggest this to a friend but eject buton MUST work or she'll laugh at me |
| 16:14.30 | neighborlee | you know ..one of those windows types that wants everything to work 'similar/like' windows ? ;-0)) |
| 16:14.45 | she_died | funny when u think about it tho |
| 16:14.45 | roxville | if you have done all your upgrades... it MAY work now... but it SHOULD work MUCH better in 0.4 |
| 16:14.56 | she_died | its the only button the drive :-) |
| 16:15.08 | roxville | so i understand your anticipation |
| 16:15.09 | neighborlee | roxville, sorryI waSn't being clear..I actually meant 0.4 ;-) |
| 16:15.31 | neighborlee | she_died, what do you mean ? ;-))) |
| 16:15.48 | roxville | he was making a joke, i believe |
| 16:15.51 | she_died | isnt it the only button on the drive? on the outside? |
| 16:16.25 | neighborlee | she_died, YES |
| 16:16.25 | neighborlee | oops |
| 16:16.28 | neighborlee | she_died, yes |
| 16:16.57 | neighborlee | she_died, i was asking because some distros dont care about she easy feartures they make you do: umount blah from console and thats horrible |
| 16:17.20 | eshep | ok, time for new cursor test |
| 16:17.21 | eshep | brb |
| 16:17.24 | she_died | now i understand |
| 16:17.26 | roxville | http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32019 |
| 16:17.28 | roxville | eshep, |
| 16:17.30 | she_died | thanks neighborlee |
| 16:17.37 | neighborlee | yw |
| 16:17.47 | roxville | that one is pretty nice... at least the clock |
| 16:18.26 | eshep | nah roxville, those look too susey |
| 16:18.44 | roxville | ok... |
| 16:19.37 | eshep | yeah i like em, but they just remind me of my past experiences with suse... |
| 16:19.51 | eshep | the last few have not been very fun |
| 16:19.57 | eshep | brb |
| 16:20.56 | *** join/#elive eshep (n=eric@219-113-75-108.dynamic.tontonme.ne.jp) |
| 16:21.47 | roxville | neither were my last experiences... 9.3 dvd... HORRIBLE |
| 16:22.51 | eshep | 9.3 wasnt too bad, but 9.2...bah! |
| 16:23.55 | eshep | hmmmm, i still get the silver cursors :? |
| 16:25.50 | roxville | they got some REALLY bad raps for that one |
| 16:26.09 | eshep | she_died, when you switch to carbon, dont forget to change your gtk theme to "Cyber Tribe" |
| 16:26.22 | roxville | hi Thanatermesis :) |
| 16:26.24 | eshep | roxville, did you try 10.0? |
| 16:26.31 | Thanatermesis | yo roxville |
| 16:26.31 | she_died | does it come with ze package, eshep? |
| 16:26.39 | eshep | gmornin sleepy head... |
| 16:26.51 | roxville | no eshep never did... i do debian-based now |
| 16:26.56 | eshep | i think so, if not apt it |
| 16:27.07 | she_died | thx |
| 16:27.12 | eshep | maaaaaaan it sucked |
| 16:27.13 | roxville | has to be VERY special if i try an rpm distro again |
| 16:27.37 | Thanatermesis | what more about the upgrade ? it works good ? |
| 16:28.34 | she_died | hello Thanatermesis |
| 16:29.00 | Thanatermesis | hello she_died |
| 16:29.16 | quidam- | Thanatermesis, o/ |
| 16:29.19 | quidam- | ya tengo x |
| 16:29.22 | quidam- | xD |
| 16:29.31 | Thanatermesis | quidam- que paso ? lo corregiste ? |
| 16:29.42 | Thanatermesis | no funciona el paquete del cursor ? |
| 16:29.47 | quidam- | tuve que reinstalar |
| 16:29.52 | quidam- | porque no estaban |
| 16:30.00 | eshep | oh yeah, Thanatermesis, doy told me there is a new drop-shadow module released |
| 16:30.02 | Thanatermesis | el que no estaba ? |
| 16:30.07 | quidam- | reinstale el x-windows-system-core |
| 16:30.14 | quidam- | y asi se corrigio todo |
| 16:30.18 | eshep | in this one you can change the values... |
| 16:30.23 | quidam- | ahora voy a probar el cursor |
| 16:30.30 | quidam- | pero ese paquete no aparecia instalado :S |
| 16:30.34 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, new drop-shadow or the same but with diferent configuration ? |
| 16:30.42 | eshep | quidam-, you back up? |
| 16:30.56 | quidam- | eshep, hi o/ |
| 16:31.01 | Thanatermesis | quidam- entonces, si no lo tenias instalado... como se te rompio el sistema ? o_O |
| 16:31.10 | quidam- | Thanatermesis, voy a probar el cursor |
| 16:31.13 | eshep | Thanatermesis, not with different, just with |
| 16:31.21 | Thanatermesis | quidam- el paquete de silvercursor ? |
| 16:31.25 | roxville | Thanatermesis, i finally found the modules config...in configurations panel |
| 16:31.27 | quidam- | ese |
| 16:31.31 | quidam- | voy a porbarlo |
| 16:31.42 | quidam- | tengo que cambiar el archivo ese que me dijiste que editara anoche |
| 16:31.44 | Thanatermesis | ah, yes roxville |
| 16:31.56 | Thanatermesis | quidam- veamos, que te dice ese archivo =? |
| 16:32.05 | quidam- | core |
| 16:32.06 | eshep | Thanatermesis, he said its in the cvs |
| 16:32.18 | eshep | i havnt tried it yet though |
| 16:33.36 | quidam- | Thanatermesis, cambio por silver cierto? |
| 16:34.45 | quidam- | brb |
| 16:36.26 | *** join/#elive quidam- (n=quidam-@200.90.86.206) |
| 16:36.37 | quidam- | Thanatermesis, sigo con el cursor dorado |
| 16:36.51 | quidam- | pero se me cambia el cursor al mover las ventanas |
| 16:36.55 | quidam- | por uno plateado |
| 16:36.55 | Thanatermesis | aha |
| 16:36.58 | Thanatermesis | perfecto |
| 16:36.58 | quidam- | con movimiento |
| 16:37.00 | Thanatermesis | con el paquete, no ? |
| 16:37.11 | quidam- | el que instale anoche |
| 16:37.15 | Thanatermesis | perfecto pues :) |
| 16:37.19 | Thanatermesis | ya lo incluyo en Elive |
| 16:37.25 | quidam- | :P |
| 16:37.25 | Thanatermesis | el dorado, es el del theme de E |
| 16:37.39 | Thanatermesis | updatearé el theme de Elive para que use el mismo cursor ;) |
| 16:37.44 | *** join/#elive eshep (n=eric@219-113-75-108.dynamic.tontonme.ne.jp) |
| 16:37.45 | quidam- | ok |
| 16:37.47 | Thanatermesis | (thanks to the eshep's idea) |
| 16:37.47 | quidam- | :P |
| 16:38.03 | eshep | Thanatermesis (thanks to the eshep's idea) ????? |
| 16:38.32 | quidam- | eshep, the silver cursor work :P |
| 16:38.36 | eshep | how the hell do i unload an e17 module from e16? xD |
| 16:38.45 | eshep | from pkg? |
| 16:38.47 | Thanatermesis | eshep about the idea of include the same cursor in the E theme |
| 16:39.10 | eshep | aha, np, i just like "different" |
| 16:39.11 | quidam- | Thanatermesis, tambien veo el cursor en otras formas |
| 16:39.13 | quidam- | cuando lo paso sobre ventanas |
| 16:39.16 | quidam- | :P |
| 16:39.19 | quidam- | esta super |
| 16:39.35 | Thanatermesis | eshep you can't, you need to have running e17 for use minimum, the "enlightenment_remote" for comunicate with E17 |
| 16:39.40 | Thanatermesis | eshep what's name of module ? |
| 16:39.50 | minddog | dd if=/dev/pot of=/dev/mug bs=sizeof(mug) count=1 |
| 16:39.53 | minddog | coffee good =) |
| 16:39.56 | Thanatermesis | quidam- esta muy lindo verdad ? :) |
| 16:40.12 | eshep | monitor |
| 16:40.12 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... coffee... |
| 16:40.12 | neighborlee | Thanatermesis, I know your likely too busy but this concerns me some..will Elive 0.4 contain code that allows unmounting Cd's via eject button , that and Im curious if inserting most usb devices will likely work out of box ( and what of browser plugins will most of them work out of box) ...sorry I dont mean to HIT you with this but these are very important things that I need from a distro ;-)) |
| 16:40.24 | quidam- | si se ve super |
| 16:40.36 | eshep | im in a perminent segfault now... |
| 16:43.42 | Thanatermesis | neighborlee not exactly, 0.4 contains a volume-manager... but this don't expulsate a CD if you press the button, also is imposible to umount a stick BEFORE you extract it (also if autodetect the extraction, you have extracted), my fast solution for all this things, i have included in elpanel, a icon (application) for umount (and mount) any thing, the umount part umounts any device to are mounted (except some things for example /proc or /s |
| 16:43.42 | Thanatermesis | ys) |
| 16:44.14 | Thanatermesis | eshep ok, try this then: enter in your ".e" directory and type "buscar-profundo modulename" |
| 16:44.44 | eshep | apt x es en buscar-profundo |
| 16:46.04 | neighborlee | Thanatermesis, I dont understand the 'impossible' to umount b efore extract statement based on fact that windows and several mainstream linux distros do this out of the box, so would you expalin what you mean please ? ;-) |
| 16:46.22 | quidam- | brb |
| 16:46.26 | eshep | /home/eshep/.e/e/config/default/module.monitor.cfg |
| 16:47.36 | eshep | brb |
| 16:48.51 | *** join/#elive eshep (n=eric@219-113-75-108.dynamic.tontonme.ne.jp) |
| 16:49.05 | Thanatermesis | neighborlee yes, for the usb sticks... you need to umount first before to extract it, this is the correct and normal way from all systems, i speak to not are posible to "autodetect of you are extracting it with the hands, for umount before you have extracted" (logically, its imposible) |
| 16:49.09 | eshep | ok, my idea didnt work |
| 16:49.32 | Thanatermesis | eshep this file of you have found... "cat file", if is not large... paste it in the channel |
| 16:50.04 | eshep | çÿ&CCconfigCHnK;Monitor_ConfigCHnK$facesCHnKMonitor_Config_FaceCHnKconfig_versiondCHnK |
| 16:50.05 | eshep | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.12 | eshep | that help :) |
| 16:50.37 | eshep | i replaced mine with the /etc/skel/.e one |
| 16:50.49 | eshep | and gadman.module.monitor.0.cfg |
| 16:52.50 | eshep | ....... |
| 16:53.03 | Thanatermesis | nah, you don't need |
| 16:53.05 | Thanatermesis | edit this file |
| 16:53.08 | neighborlee | Thanatermesis, I think im not being clear and I 'm sorry...I am not so worried about usb stick cause atm I dont even have one..what I am mainly concerned of is to automatically eject a cd via the eject button ( which almost all big linux names do out of the box)..thanks ;-)) |
| 16:53.13 | eshep | ok |
| 16:53.30 | eshep | vi open |
| 16:53.33 | Thanatermesis | and try to replace "enabled" word for "disabled" eshep, im not sure if works but is very posible :) |
| 16:54.45 | Thanatermesis | neighborlee i have searched a little but not is posible, the system can't knows if you press or not the button (posible with a kernel patch, but i don't like very the idea), actually the way is to umount the cdrom from elpanel |
| 16:54.57 | Thanatermesis | nomed any idea about it ? |
| 16:54.58 | eshep | ok, lets see what happens |
| 16:55.29 | neighborlee | Thanatermesis, well I could offer you info about how ubuntu does it..but I have no idea how suse, mandrake, linspire and xandros does it.. |
| 16:56.13 | Thanatermesis | aha |
| 16:56.21 | Thanatermesis | you know how to ubuntu make this ? |
| 16:56.27 | neighborlee | Thanatermesis, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11480 < check near bottom of page..this seems to be how ubuntu is resolving it |
| 16:56.47 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 16:57.01 | nomed | neighborlee, is it mounted ? |
| 16:57.11 | neighborlee | yes of course,, it has to mount to view data |
| 16:57.41 | nomed | you can't eject it if it's mounted ... |
| 16:57.56 | nomed | what are the linux distros that let you do this ? |
| 16:57.58 | she_died | thats my experience too with mandrake |
| 16:58.00 | *** join/#elive eshep (n=eric@219-113-75-108.dynamic.tontonme.ne.jp) |
| 16:58.00 | neighborlee | Thanatermesis, other than that..i can tell you how I 'think' the other distros are doing this...:: http://www.capaman.8m.com/supermount.html |
| 16:58.12 | neighborlee | nomed, almost all of them |
| 16:58.19 | *** join/#elive _H_ (n=_H_@109.Red-80-36-73.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:58.37 | Thanatermesis | yes, supermount... |
| 16:58.45 | neighborlee | nomed, likely what it does is 'umount' it before it ejects it..I mean windows has done this for years and years but honeslty I have no idea 'how' they do it either |
| 16:58.48 | eshep | ok, i swear i typed in disabled |
| 16:59.02 | roxville | sudo sh -c 'echo "dev.cdrom.lock=0" >> /etc/sysctl.conf' |
| 16:59.10 | neighborlee | correct |
| 16:59.30 | neighborlee | this might be specific to ubuntu though I dont know.. |
| 16:59.42 | neighborlee | ie: /etc/sysctl.conf < might only be in ubuntu ? |
| 16:59.57 | Thanatermesis | http://supermount-ng.sourceforge.net/ |
| 17:00.05 | neighborlee | yeah |
| 17:00.10 | nomed | neighborlee, it the cdrom when pressin eject has a signal then it's possible .. |
| 17:00.12 | *** join/#elive Edgardoweb (i=Linares@201.209.131.47) |
| 17:00.13 | neighborlee | roxville, hehehe |
| 17:00.31 | neighborlee | nomed, im sure it does ;-) |
| 17:00.40 | nomed | ok |
| 17:00.44 | nomed | i'll try to find a way .. |
| 17:01.09 | nomed | mainly it's needed to connect to that signal a cmd like eject |
| 17:01.14 | nomed | or sudo eject ... |
| 17:01.24 | eshep | well roxville, the polar cusors dont work :( |
| 17:01.32 | neighborlee | yes ..I suppose..maybe thats how supermount-ng works honestly I dont know ;( |
| 17:01.43 | nomed | neighborlee, anyway ... debian and ubuntu dont' do that ... |
| 17:02.00 | neighborlee | nomed, yeah I know..the debian way is always 'manual' LOL |
| 17:02.15 | roxville | ok eshep , sorry |
| 17:02.22 | nomed | neighborlee, but what if you 're playing a dvd ... |
| 17:02.32 | nomed | does it eject anyway ? |
| 17:02.32 | Thanatermesis | nomed is sure to the eject button send a signal... but is the kernel prepaired for read it ? aparently "supermount" patch is exactly for this... do you have tried it ? |
| 17:02.34 | neighborlee | nomed, how many people are dumb enough to do that ;-)() |
| 17:02.50 | roxville | nomed sudo sh -c 'echo "dev.cdrom.lock=0" >> /etc/sysctl.conf' |
| 17:03.02 | nomed | neighborlee, i'm pretty sure there are ... |
| 17:03.12 | neighborlee | nomed, that would be pretty unliikely..but even so..I doubt you would harm anything..its only software accessing a laser device to play data spun on a piece of plastic ;-) |
| 17:03.19 | Thanatermesis | roxville i have just tried.. but don't works, is for debian ? posible needs supermount ? |
| 17:03.38 | roxville | possibly |
| 17:03.42 | nomed | and it costs some $ .. sometimes :) |
| 17:03.51 | neighborlee | Thanatermesis, well..at least in ubuntu..it reqauired a 'reboot' or at least ctl-alt-backspace ;-) |
| 17:04.07 | roxville | but there are several things like that in elive right now... maybe you need to remove something |
| 17:04.17 | roxville | hotplug... i don't know |
| 17:04.35 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 17:05.01 | nomed | dev.cdrom.lock=0 <-- is this the way ? |
| 17:05.15 | neighborlee | yes |
| 17:05.21 | neighborlee | assuming elive even has this |
| 17:05.34 | neighborlee | ie: /ec/sysctl.conf |
| 17:05.37 | neighborlee | etc LOL |
| 17:05.43 | neighborlee | ie: /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 17:06.03 | neighborlee | chances are it does considering ubuntu is also debian based ;-) |
| 17:06.08 | nomed | neighborlee, ... and if the livecd is running ... ? |
| 17:06.27 | neighborlee | nomed, well |
| 17:06.32 | nomed | i mean .. i don't like that it will eject anyway ... |
| 17:06.40 | neighborlee | nomed, that can also be done but I dont know 'how' its done off top of my head |
| 17:06.54 | neighborlee | nomed, but I know i've seen distros livecd that do allow using cdrom even in livecd mode |
| 17:07.07 | nomed | neighborlee, sure ... |
| 17:07.14 | neighborlee | no seriously |
| 17:07.15 | neighborlee | ;-)) |
| 17:07.17 | nomed | if you boot with toram option .. |
| 17:07.24 | neighborlee | maybe thats it yes |
| 17:07.27 | nomed | then you'll have al in ram |
| 17:07.31 | nomed | all |
| 17:07.32 | neighborlee | yes thats it |
| 17:07.35 | she_died | like Movix maybe |
| 17:07.39 | neighborlee | you got it ;)) |
| 17:07.43 | eshep | i gotta hit the sack folks, see yall tomorrow |
| 17:07.48 | neighborlee | cu! |
| 17:07.53 | she_died | l8r |
| 17:07.54 | roxville | good night!! |
| 17:07.56 | neighborlee | eshep, nn |
| 17:08.13 | nomed | neighborlee, i understand what you mean ... |
| 17:08.27 | neighborlee | nomed, all in ram I think is smart considering MOST users have aLOT of ram these days..BUT of course leaving it as a 'option' at boot is of course wise |
| 17:08.38 | neighborlee | nomed, ;-) |
| 17:08.43 | nomed | but i even think that a user should umount device before unplug or eject them .. |
| 17:09.14 | neighborlee | nomed, I dont think it hurts anything as most people aren't going to be dumb enough to make that mistake |
| 17:09.27 | neighborlee | nomed, we dont want to make mistake of assuming users aren't very smart ;-)) |
| 17:09.31 | nomed | i like to help the user to easly do this more then let him do this anyway .. |
| 17:09.38 | neighborlee | nomed, gnome made that mistsake and look whats happening to them now ;-) |
| 17:09.58 | nomed | neighborlee, if linus told that it doesn't mean it all true .. |
| 17:10.07 | neighborlee | nomed, i agree |
| 17:10.13 | neighborlee | nomed, but in this case it is ;0-) |
| 17:10.32 | neighborlee | I have friends that have used gnome for YEars and are not moving to kde |
| 17:10.36 | neighborlee | kde/some other alternative |
| 17:10.42 | nomed | i think that saying DON'T USE gnome |
| 17:10.47 | nomed | it's not the way .. |
| 17:10.49 | neighborlee | cause they are made at gnome for doing dumb things FOR users instead of asking users |
| 17:11.03 | nomed | saying where and why gnome is not good ... that's the way |
| 17:11.15 | neighborlee | nomed, well normally I would agree definitely.but gnome does not listen to its users so what else can you do ? ;( |
| 17:11.49 | nomed | neighborlee, linus is not a normal user i feel |
| 17:11.56 | neighborlee | nomed, I agree..but nothing is bein done to fix things cause the gnome developers think they are always right and that no discussion is necessary to fix what isn't broke in their eyes..ie: UI nazi's |
| 17:12.04 | nomed | and he could use his voice in a different way |
| 17:12.16 | neighborlee | nomed, well I think he is..he represents linux in a huge way..if not forhim there is no linux ;) |
| 17:12.26 | neighborlee | nomed, well...he 'usually' does <wink> |
| 17:12.39 | neighborlee | nomed, this was yes a bit ODD for even him i agree..but he made excelllent points ;-)) |
| 17:13.01 | neighborlee | nomed, you would need to read the /. article and the distrowatch one to fully understand the gravity of all this |
| 17:13.11 | neighborlee | its a complex issue ;-) |
| 17:13.17 | nomed | neighborlee, i agree ... and i don't use gnome ... |
| 17:13.22 | neighborlee | heh |
| 17:13.23 | nomed | stop :) |
| 17:13.36 | neighborlee | stop what |
| 17:13.36 | nomed | but i don't tell you "don't use gnome" |
| 17:13.38 | nomed | :) |
| 17:14.11 | nomed | i can tell "i don't like gnome" |
| 17:14.16 | nomed | just this |
| 17:14.24 | neighborlee | nomed, im not sAying dont use gnome either.im just saying linus arguements for 'not using gnome' are logical |
| 17:14.34 | nomed | this is what i didn't like of that post |
| 17:14.46 | neighborlee | I mean look at how PIGGY nautilus is ;-)) |
| 17:14.55 | neighborlee | its a horribly slow bloated app |
| 17:15.05 | neighborlee | konqueror by comparison is gorgeous LOL |
| 17:15.21 | neighborlee | and I say that as a gnome 'lover' trust me ;-)) |
| 17:16.04 | neighborlee | I have used and prefer gnome for a LONG time..I avoid kde but I have seen gnome problems and just ignored them..but I think if gnome devs aren't willing to listen and fix things what else can we do but use something else :( |
| 17:17.06 | nomed | e17 xfce4 ..... |
| 17:17.23 | neighborlee | anyway its painful to even talk about..I really love the lgpl nature of gnome..but I dont think anymore I can use it ;( |
| 17:17.25 | neighborlee | yes thats why I came here ;-) |
| 17:17.33 | neighborlee | gnome > E17 ;-) |
| 17:17.42 | neighborlee | or kde.im undecided atm < |
| 17:18.18 | neighborlee | however I reallly like the idea of allowing source/apt installs IN a live envrironment...ie: elive ;-) |
| 17:18.30 | neighborlee | sure othres do it too but I'm glad elive is also ;-) |
| 17:19.02 | neighborlee | unionfs is being used here ? |
| 17:19.59 | nomed | yes |
| 17:21.38 | Thanatermesis | im sure of the linus words is a knife in the heart of daddy ubuntu :) lol |
| 17:23.11 | roxville | lol |
| 17:23.40 | roxville | that's maybe why they are expanding... kubuntu...xubuntu |
| 17:24.37 | Thanatermesis | but aparently this expansions are weird... |
| 17:24.50 | Thanatermesis | im pretty sure of ubuntu go down in the same speed of has go up |
| 17:24.51 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 17:25.40 | roxville | yeah, they don't work as well... kubuntu looks pretty nice... but doesn't work as good |
| 17:26.53 | *** join/#elive goretoxo (n=goretoxo@213.201.103.2) |
| 17:32.44 | neighborlee | Thanatermesis, LOL you betcha!! |
| 17:32.56 | neighborlee | Thanatermesis, Im thinking knive twisting |
| 17:33.35 | neighborlee | Thanatermesis, I sure wont be using ubuntu anymore..and I used it for a longtime but i can't feel good about gnome anymore knowing what I know |
| 17:33.49 | neighborlee | go fig |
| 17:33.53 | neighborlee | ;-=) |
| 17:33.56 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 17:34.04 | neighborlee | besides |
| 17:34.11 | neighborlee | I found a website comparing speed of WM's |
| 17:34.17 | Thanatermesis | ubuntu like's to offer a easy system for the user |
| 17:34.20 | neighborlee | and well E17 was on top <<< |
| 17:34.21 | Thanatermesis | easy easy easy easy... |
| 17:34.31 | neighborlee | nothing wrong with that |
| 17:34.39 | neighborlee | but of course too easy maybe yes |
| 17:34.50 | Thanatermesis | but trying it with only the "easy" word in the mind... is posible to not think of the good thinks. |
| 17:34.52 | Thanatermesis | linux != windows 3.11 |
| 17:34.56 | neighborlee | I think they have maybe gone too far..not even windows is 'that easy' LOL |
| 17:35.12 | Thanatermesis | i look ubuntu TOOOO very simple, with little things, this is not easy, this is "incomplete" |
| 17:35.37 | neighborlee | yeah |
| 17:38.41 | Thanatermesis | i don't like really this... i like to the ppl knows linux... "linux better and more beautifull to windows"... of course more stable without errors.. etc etc etc |
| 17:39.10 | Thanatermesis | but with this "simple interfaces" looking a uncomplete system... you look linux same to a windows 95 or less down... |
| 17:40.56 | neighborlee | well |
| 17:40.59 | neighborlee | I figure it this way |
| 17:41.03 | Thanatermesis | i have tried to install ubuntu one time... the SWAP selection not is a easy thing autmoaticed... (the final user don't knows about this and im sure of very persons don't add the SWAP), the computer is a 500 Mhz with 128 Mb of ram... after the long installation... i have reboot the system and what system i have obtained ? a simble wallpaper without icons, without menus, without programs, without any... i look this with the "normal users ey |
| 17:41.03 | Thanatermesis | es" and i think... "ho... linux is a shit... i know now why the ppl don't use it and all ppl use windows.." |
| 17:41.30 | neighborlee | make linux 'easy' to use..at least as easy as windows basically thats all no more no less..but you can stil get 'dirty' with the console on any distro..;-)) |
| 17:42.03 | nomed | linux is the easiest OS .... |
| 17:42.08 | nomed | it's scriptable ... |
| 17:42.21 | nomed | if you mean easy == user friendly |
| 17:42.26 | *** join/#elive Rasko|nikov (n=raskolni@150.Red-81-39-172.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:42.31 | neighborlee | nomed, yes I do |
| 17:42.47 | nomed | so it's not easy ... |
| 17:42.56 | neighborlee | nomed, I use windows as a guide to this..basically..I mean they do have the market share so they have done something right ;-) |
| 17:42.56 | nomed | it's still for advanced user .. |
| 17:43.06 | neighborlee | in some ways yes |
| 17:43.18 | roxville | they did the marketing right |
| 17:43.23 | neighborlee | but its getting VERy close to easy ready..just look at linspire << |
| 17:43.26 | neighborlee | or xandros |
| 17:43.34 | neighborlee | linspire wins hands down |
| 17:43.48 | neighborlee | gorgeous UI and every browser plugin works out of the box |
| 17:43.55 | nomed | neighborlee, they are easy just because they are really similar to windows |
| 17:43.58 | nomed | for me user friendly is an os |
| 17:44.00 | Thanatermesis | what have linspire or xandros to a normal KDE distro don't have ? |
| 17:44.03 | roxville | but linspire is also a very CLOSED linux |
| 17:44.04 | neighborlee | but then mepis does too and pclinuxos mostly |
| 17:44.07 | nomed | that even if you've not seen before |
| 17:44.13 | nomed | you can use it anyway .. |
| 17:44.21 | neighborlee | roxville, thatgs why ill never use linpsire yes exactly |
| 17:44.23 | nomed | and not because it has windows patterns |
| 17:44.47 | Thanatermesis | nomed any idea about how to know if the network is configured with dhcp in the liveCD ? |
| 17:44.50 | neighborlee | Thanatermesis, working browser plugins out of the box |
| 17:45.05 | neighborlee | Thanatermesis, a legal dvd player for another I guess |
| 17:45.14 | nomed | Thanatermesis, you can grep /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:45.30 | nomed | but Thanatermesis |
| 17:45.32 | neighborlee | Thanatermesis, and they do have some things that are linspire unique like their speical mozilla features |
| 17:45.41 | Thanatermesis | nomed from the liveCD ? im not sure... this is not writed imho in the interfaces... only configured |
| 17:45.58 | nomed | i think it' better to use a standard config file |
| 17:46.02 | nomed | Thanatermesis, yes |
| 17:46.11 | nomed | if the user has used pppoeconf |
| 17:46.19 | nomed | you can see it |
| 17:46.23 | Thanatermesis | Elive 0.4 don't have network after the reboot... you need to reconfigure it |
| 17:46.28 | nomed | if not it has used dhcp .. for ex |
| 17:46.32 | Edgardoweb | You can use the following link to check on the status of you order: |
| 17:46.32 | Edgardoweb | https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ |
| 17:46.32 | Edgardoweb | 30 CD's was approved and will go out with our next shipment. |
| 17:46.32 | Edgardoweb | Please allow 4-6 weeks for delivery. |
| 17:46.34 | Edgardoweb | Kind regards |
| 17:46.36 | nomed | but *he* |
| 17:46.36 | Edgardoweb | Marilize |
| 17:47.02 | nomed | Edgardoweb, :) |
| 17:47.05 | nomed | yes ... |
| 17:47.11 | nomed | and it's true |
| 17:47.17 | Edgardoweb | nomed, :D |
| 17:47.30 | nomed | i think that's way thay would have a livecd that can even be the install cd |
| 17:47.32 | nomed | :D |
| 17:47.40 | Edgardoweb | nomed, what version? |
| 17:47.44 | nomed | dapper |
| 17:47.47 | Thanatermesis | i don't like very to Elive don't have network after the installation... |
| 17:47.51 | neighborlee | Thanatermesis, anyway I'm very glad you made elive..E17 sounds wonderful and having a livecd to do source compile and installs apps is 'wonderful' I think ;-)..and having a 'clean cd install' method is also very kewl...so thanks for all this hard work I just add to pleaes consider making it 'user friendly' as possible to help linux be more popular |
| 17:48.05 | neighborlee | Thanatermesis, without more marketshare we get nowhere ;-=) |
| 17:48.05 | Edgardoweb | nomed, you are speak spanish? |
| 17:48.13 | nomed | Thanatermesis, as you wish ... |
| 17:48.19 | neighborlee | :( |
| 17:48.28 | neighborlee | se pablo en espaneol un pocca << lol |
| 17:48.32 | nomed | but think ie: |
| 17:48.33 | neighborlee | hablo ? |
| 17:48.40 | nomed | i use elive and i install it ... |
| 17:48.58 | nomed | i have a adsl contract .. and i pay each time i connect .. |
| 17:49.05 | nomed | 1e each h |
| 17:49.07 | nomed | for ex |
| 17:49.08 | Edgardoweb | what ubuntu distro? |
| 17:49.26 | nomed | when i switch on my pc ... |
| 17:49.26 | neighborlee | nomed, ouch |
| 17:49.44 | nomed | and i boot up the installed elive ... |
| 17:49.58 | Edgardoweb | que versiones tienen ustedes instalados en sus pc? |
| 17:49.58 | nomed | i don't know that it connect automatically ... |
| 17:50.26 | nomed | Edgardoweb, tiengo una breezy an una particion |
| 17:50.40 | nomed | Edgardoweb, no soy espanolo |
| 17:50.43 | nomed | :) |
| 17:50.49 | Edgardoweb | nomed, y que tal es what funcion? |
| 17:50.51 | Edgardoweb | :D |
| 17:50.54 | *** part/#elive she_died (n=icechat5@adsl-215-50-249.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 17:51.39 | nomed | Thanatermesis, then for ex .. |
| 17:52.01 | nomed | if there is a running dhcp daemon ... |
| 17:52.14 | nomed | and i would connect using ppp ... |
| 17:52.18 | nomed | it will not work .. |
| 17:52.22 | nomed | or mainly ... |
| 17:52.40 | nomed | the /etc/resolv.conf will be wrong .. |
| 17:52.53 | nomed | both dhcp and ppp want to configure it |
| 17:53.21 | nomed | Thanatermesis, the best way i think is to include a doc about networking :) |
| 17:53.33 | nomed | and use a default config |
| 17:54.50 | nomed | nomed, y que tal es what funcion? <-- |
| 17:54.57 | nomed | Edgardoweb, lo he dicho yo ? |
| 17:55.00 | Thanatermesis | nomed im think'in about after the installation, in your next reboot, is launched a command for "final steps of the installation" (actually only reconfigure network), posible show a firefox with a webpage.. ? |
| 17:55.18 | Edgardoweb | nomed, okas |
| 17:55.42 | nomed | Thanatermesis, yes .. it could be an idea .. |
| 17:55.50 | nomed | like choose dhcp or ppp |
| 17:56.10 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@4-64.242.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 17:57.36 | Thanatermesis | yep... and the correct way for this :) |
| 17:58.21 | Thanatermesis | what about supermount nomed ? do you thing to are a good idea to use it ? i can posible to patch the "debian kernel" 2.6.12 of use Elive with the supertux for it :) |
| 17:58.36 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@4-64.242.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 17:58.38 | nomed | Thanatermesis, i don't like to patch the kernel ... |
| 17:58.54 | nomed | and i like to show to the user what's happening .. |
| 17:59.04 | Thanatermesis | another better idea for eject cdroms to are mounted ? |
| 17:59.05 | nomed | like a notification that say |
| 17:59.15 | nomed | you can't eject the cdrom ... it's still mounted .. |
| 17:59.32 | nomed | "do you want to umount it?" |
| 17:59.34 | Thanatermesis | aparently with the supermount yes |
| 17:59.57 | Thanatermesis | ok, show this message... but how if you can't read the callbacks of the button ? |
| 17:59.58 | nomed | Thanatermesis, have you a link ? |
| 18:00.08 | Thanatermesis | http://supermount-ng.sourceforge.net/ |
| 18:00.33 | nomed | Thanatermesis, an icon "eject cdrom" ? |
| 18:00.53 | Thanatermesis | i don't use icons :) |
| 18:01.09 | Thanatermesis | i use icons in elpanel... and it have a "umount / mount manager" |
| 18:01.11 | nomed | --> Debian Linux, currently in testing and unstable branches <--- |
| 18:01.16 | nomed | let's see .. and wait |
| 18:01.23 | Thanatermesis | heh |
| 18:01.35 | nomed | Last changed 2004-02-05 <-- |
| 18:01.43 | nomed | :/ |
| 18:02.02 | Thanatermesis | bad |
| 18:03.02 | nomed | Thanatermesis, it looks buggy ... |
| 18:03.21 | Thanatermesis | im "with linus think's" in some part... the user NEEDS to understand how to works the system |
| 18:03.22 | nomed | a lot of answer within FAQ section to explain issues ... |
| 18:03.41 | nomed | Thanatermesis, notifications :) |
| 18:03.46 | Thanatermesis | not is good to make a MASK in the system for show to the user a total diferent work compared to the internal work |
| 18:03.52 | rookmoot | Thanatermesis, yop |
| 18:04.00 | nomed | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.03 | rookmoot | take a look here : http://enlightenmentfr.ath.cx/Aide/edje/ |
| 18:04.42 | Thanatermesis | but is also good to make the more easy'est posible for the final user... BUT, whitin you don't curve the way |
| 18:05.07 | Thanatermesis | nomed ok ok but.. how to show this popup ? this is the question... ivman don't make's this, correct ? |
| 18:05.24 | nomed | Thanatermesis, with my notify.py |
| 18:05.43 | nomed | apt-get install notification-daemon |
| 18:05.50 | nomed | and i'll send it to you |
| 18:06.14 | Thanatermesis | :) rookmoot |
| 18:06.22 | Thanatermesis | on dirait que tu a bien lu mon "wiki" de edje :) |
| 18:06.46 | nomed | do you think if i ask to Santa Claus a web designer i 'll receive it ? |
| 18:06.50 | nomed | :DD |
| 18:07.03 | Thanatermesis | tu le trouvait comment ? en tout cas il serait tres bien si il serait plus complet... mais comme "remember/recomends/think's" il et pas mal |
| 18:07.22 | Thanatermesis | lol nomed |
| 18:07.50 | Thanatermesis | web designer... :/ |
| 18:08.23 | rookmoot | Thanatermesis, bah écoute inscrits toi sur le site |
| 18:08.31 | Thanatermesis | mmh, i don't have this package |
| 18:08.31 | rookmoot | si tu veux pour le completer |
| 18:08.43 | rookmoot | jpense que des gens qui trouvent des trucs vont le remplir |
| 18:08.52 | rookmoot | donc ya moyen d'en faire un bien |
| 18:09.09 | Thanatermesis | rookmoot desolée... mais deja je ne ai pas le temps de faire celui que javais comencée depuis...2005-08-11 |
| 18:09.30 | rookmoot | non mais je te le dis ;) |
| 18:09.36 | rookmoot | apres tu fais comme tu veux :p |
| 18:09.46 | Thanatermesis | oui, si c'est facile a i accedder comme si ça serait un wiki... ça peut se faire un bon truc ;) |
| 18:09.57 | Thanatermesis | demande-lui a pr0t0cod7 de le finire.. il si conait pas mal de edje lo |
| 18:10.00 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 18:10.38 | Thanatermesis | nomed what is the CMS options of you have for the web-page ? |
| 18:18.23 | roxville | how about putting the mount/unmount icon in engage/ibar? |
| 18:18.34 | Thanatermesis | i think to are little weird |
| 18:18.43 | Thanatermesis | to have this icon "all time" on it |
| 18:19.08 | Thanatermesis | i have put it in elpanel, in "admin" part because is a "system" think... |
| 18:19.13 | Thanatermesis | but the ppl needs to know this |
| 18:19.35 | Thanatermesis | because this i need to write a good "tutorial" about how to use good the system.. |
| 18:19.37 | Thanatermesis | with all :) |
| 18:19.42 | Thanatermesis | hot-keys and all |
| 18:20.25 | Thanatermesis | i think to are a good idea to put it in the "bookmarks" and also, just after to the installation are complete (and posible to are the default homepage in the liveCD system) |
| 18:21.42 | roxville | ok |
| 18:22.03 | roxville | i have to argue this case just a little more, though |
| 18:24.12 | Thanatermesis | i don't found another better idea... |
| 18:24.13 | roxville | i don't think it's weird at all. to have a very visible option... most click their way around e the first time... when the zenity "would you like to mount a CD/DVD?" pops up, it's easy for them to remember |
| 18:24.31 | Thanatermesis | mmh, aparently nomed has a thing for show a popup speaking "your cd is mounted, umount first from elpanel or with the umount command", this is a good think... |
| 18:24.38 | Thanatermesis | i don't found the package of nomed's has speaked me |
| 18:24.43 | Thanatermesis | ubuntu package ? |
| 18:25.06 | roxville | probably, since he uses that |
| 18:25.42 | roxville | Thanatermesis, i DO agree with the way you think, and it is good. |
| 18:26.43 | roxville | maybe i am not thinking the right way... i just don't think that that icon in engage/ibar would be "in the way", that's all :) |
| 18:27.02 | *** join/#elive quidam- (n=quidam-@200.90.84.171) |
| 18:27.37 | Thanatermesis | "You have installed Elive succesfully, you need to reconfig |
| 18:27.37 | Thanatermesis | ure the network now for are good configured in your system" |
| 18:27.39 | Thanatermesis | it is good writed ? |
| 18:28.01 | roxville | some minor mods, just a sec |
| 18:28.06 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es i just don't think that that icon in engage/ibar would be "in the way", |
| 18:29.31 | roxville | Thanatermesis "You have installed Elive succesfully, you need to reconfigure the network now for your installed Elivesystem" |
| 18:29.40 | quidam- | Thanatermesis, con que programa puedo grabar unos videos de la pantalla |
| 18:29.45 | Thanatermesis | engage/ibar is for the "most used applications", also is important to are beatifull icons with good colors for "mix good with the desktop" (because in any case, is a part of the desktop), the user can be posible to modify it, of course, but princpially this is the idea, also, the most important thing (with all things) of Elive is included on it (elpanel icon) |
| 18:29.45 | quidam- | como los videos que usaste para elpanel |
| 18:29.48 | Thanatermesis | ok thx |
| 18:29.49 | roxville | space between elive and system at the end |
| 18:30.21 | Thanatermesis | quidam- no entiendo... con que programa puedes que ? |
| 18:30.33 | quidam- | recuerdas los videos de elpanel? |
| 18:30.43 | quidam- | que son grabaciones de pantalla |
| 18:30.46 | Thanatermesis | aha |
| 18:30.50 | quidam- | como pantallazos pero en video |
| 18:30.56 | quidam- | con que lo puedo hacer? |
| 18:31.02 | *** join/#elive dats (n=dats@33.Red-213-98-129.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:31.21 | *** join/#elive sinplomo (i=sinplomo@adsl196-249-120-206-196.adsl196-4.iam.net.ma) |
| 18:31.24 | quidam- | quiro grabar el video del silvercursor :P |
| 18:31.29 | Thanatermesis | con xvidcap, desde un directorio con mucho espacio libre y sin nada mas dentro (te lo llenara de ficheros), luego lanza xvidcap-export |
| 18:31.35 | Thanatermesis | quidam- no, no puedes |
| 18:31.41 | Thanatermesis | el cursor no se puede grabar |
| 18:31.52 | quidam- | no? |
| 18:31.54 | quidam- | :( |
| 18:32.00 | quidam- | jodio |
| 18:32.02 | quidam- | pero ya veras |
| 18:32.02 | Thanatermesis | los cursores no se pueden grabar |
| 18:32.10 | quidam- | a que me grabo unos videos |
| 18:32.12 | quidam- | xDDDD |
| 18:32.15 | Thanatermesis | ni screenshotear como puedes comprobar ;) |
| 18:32.26 | quidam- | eso si me he dado cuenta |
| 18:32.46 | sinplomo | en windows si |
| 18:33.04 | Thanatermesis | pero no estamos en windows xD |
| 18:33.11 | quidam- | sinplomo, en wincaca? |
| 18:33.13 | quidam- | xDDDD |
| 18:34.56 | roxville | Thanatermesis engage/ibar is for the "most used applications" <== apart from those in engage, i think cd/dvd mounting IS the most used! |
| 18:36.32 | Thanatermesis | but it is mounted automatically from ivman.. and a question for umount... if the user can't umount.. can be posible to umount after from elpanel |
| 18:36.45 | Thanatermesis | ivman manages good the mounts :) |
| 18:36.58 | Thanatermesis | but if the user can't umount it in the question... needs to search it in elpanel |
| 18:37.54 | quidam- | Thanatermesis, estuve viendo elpanel con otro tipo de imagenes |
| 18:37.57 | quidam- | mucho mas llamativas |
| 18:38.04 | roxville | brb |
| 18:38.10 | quidam- | lo vi en el blog de pr0t0... |
| 18:38.28 | Thanatermesis | quidam- "con otro tipo de imagenes" ? |
| 18:38.49 | Thanatermesis | ah si.. pr0t0cod7 ayudó a hacer el diseño del interface :) |
| 18:39.05 | quidam- | y se veia super |
| 18:39.11 | quidam- | las imagenes que tenia |
| 18:39.14 | quidam- | :P |
| 18:58.53 | *** join/#elive Benito (n=Elive_us@LSt-Amand-152-31-21-51.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:59.37 | *** part/#elive Benito (n=Elive_us@LSt-Amand-152-31-21-51.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:12.17 | Thanatermesis | any person has a less than 300 Mhz machine ? |
| 20:16.40 | Mutacion | yo yo mero |
| 20:16.44 | Mutacion | si jala elive :P |
| 20:16.50 | Mutacion | p2 266mhz :P |
| 20:17.06 | roxville | Mutacion, trash it. |
| 20:17.07 | roxville | now |
| 20:17.14 | roxville | lol |
| 20:17.25 | Mutacion | haha..noo ta chida |
| 20:17.50 | roxville | but thana... 266 IS 300... right? |
| 20:23.11 | Mutacion | http://utopia.duth.gr/~nm4434/Chatter's%20Keyboard.jpg |
| 20:23.12 | Mutacion | jiji |
| 20:27.55 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@4-64.242.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 20:44.07 | *** join/#elive hagisbash (n=thebashe@ACD6A64D.ipt.aol.com) |
| 20:46.40 | *** join/#elive forGET (n=forGET@200.121.125.14) |
| 20:47.39 | hagisbash | i had to reinstall elive when i upgraded system with apt-get i could not login at the login screen,it just kept rtying to start then went back to login screen,is this a common bug |
| 20:50.01 | roxville | yes |
| 20:50.13 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.18 | roxville | oh |
| 20:54.28 | *** join/#elive forGET (n=forGET@200.121.125.14) |
| 20:54.32 | *** join/#elive gruunk (n=gruunk@135.Red-83-49-223.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:02.40 | sinplomo | apt, x en es core |
| 21:05.52 | *** join/#elive maxtoo (n=maxtoo@AOrleans-154-1-10-132.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:14.35 | *** join/#elive EggMan (n=eggman@pool-71-243-153-52.buff.east.verizon.net) |
| 21:14.42 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@pool-71-243-153-52.buff.east.verizon.net) |
| 21:14.56 | roxville | yo EggMan |
| 21:15.11 | roxville | feel a little split today? |
| 21:23.06 | *** join/#elive rookmoot (n=rookmoot@ANantes-256-1-2-238.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:26.51 | *** join/#elive minddog (n=minddog@206-169-48-226.gen.twtelecom.net) |
| 21:52.58 | *** join/#elive saCUL (n=Elive_us@dsl-202-173-165-16.wa.westnet.com.au) |
| 22:14.06 | *** join/#elive apt (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 22:14.06 | *** topic/#elive is Need Help? http://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Help || Open your mind with elive-essence: "xmms http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/1035" || Check #e #e.fr #e.es Enlightenment channels || --== Elpanel ==-- actual version: 0.1elive5 || December: The Count Down has started |
| 22:21.07 | roxville | good |
| 22:21.18 | *** join/#elive Elive_user2 (n=Elive_us@33.228-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 22:21.41 | roxville | hi th... Elive_user welcome to #elive! |
| 22:21.53 | roxville | Elive_user2 even |
| 22:23.04 | roxville | Elive_user, is just an alter Eggo |
| 22:23.32 | roxville | but... ehh maybe not |
| 22:27.45 | saCUL | roxville, take another look in the mirror |
| 22:27.57 | saCUL | xllivxor -- is yrev ynnuf |
| 22:33.36 | *** join/#elive Jabba (n=jabba@85.8.4.184) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 22:34.51 | *** join/#elive _H_ (n=_H_@62-43-32-67.user.ono.com) |
| 22:42.09 | roxville | lol |
| 22:53.06 | roxville | Jabba, is that really you... or just auto? |
| 23:04.13 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@pool-71-243-153-52.buff.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:05.12 | *** join/#elive EggMan (n=eggman@pool-71-243-153-52.buff.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:28.40 | *** join/#elive Elive_user2 (n=Elive_us@nsc64.16.154-237.newsouth.net) |
| 23:46.55 | *** join/#elive composite (n=grahagre@12-203-117-226.client.insightBB.com) |
