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| 00:51.42 | dererk | mucho split por aqui |
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| 01:10.47 | pigeon | is there somewhere i could find doco/files on creating elive? |
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| 01:40.36 | Elive_user7 | hola |
| 01:41.10 | dererk | Holas |
| 01:41.29 | Elive_user7 | alguien me puede decir como tengo que formatear las particion raiz para poder instalar la version 0.4 en el disco duro? |
| 01:42.04 | dererk | Elive_user7, el instalador tiene una app que sirve para eso |
| 01:42.21 | Elive_user7 | ya, pero luego no me la reconoce |
| 01:42.42 | Elive_user7 | he probao con reiser,ext2,ext3... |
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| 01:43.08 | dererk | Tienes alguna particion extendida? |
| 01:43.27 | Elive_user2 | Thanatermesis, OK, install worked |
| 01:43.46 | dererk | Tienes alguna particion extendida, Elive_user7? |
| 01:44.16 | Elive_user7 | no, el disco esta limpio y solo creo la swap y la particion para / |
| 01:44.46 | dererk | Elive_user7, pon la swap como particion extendida |
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| 01:45.37 | Elive_user7 | voy ha probar |
| 01:45.37 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user7 upgradea el instalador |
| 01:45.45 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user7 no tienes particion extendida en ese disco, verdad ? |
| 01:45.54 | Elive_user7 | nop |
| 01:45.58 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, sorry, didnt realize my nick was wrong...... |
| 01:46.05 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user7 solo upgradeando el instalador funcionara |
| 01:46.09 | Thanatermesis | apt eliveinstaller |
| 01:46.19 | Thanatermesis | apt elive-installer |
| 01:46.30 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user7 haz: apt-get update ; apt-get install eliveinstaller |
| 01:46.39 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, install worked perfect using extended partition |
| 01:46.43 | Elive_user7 | ok :D ahora os digo |
| 01:46.50 | Gwildor | Elive_user, sudo first |
| 01:46.51 | Thanatermesis | thanks Gwildor :) |
| 01:47.02 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, using it now, amazingly fast |
| 01:47.05 | Thanatermesis | and also without extended... if you upgrade the installer ;) the bug is fixed |
| 01:47.07 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, tahnk you |
| 01:47.14 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 01:47.38 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, yes, but veacuase the issue i was having, i wanted a pure isntall.....reember my isntall failed |
| 01:47.56 | dererk | Thanatermesis, ya, ese es un bug del instalador, no? |
| 01:47.56 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, it was my fault, i shoulda waited longer before restarting |
| 01:48.05 | dererk | digo, del que trae la pre |
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| 01:48.55 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, i have a few ideas for the isntaller, i will e-mail thenm to you |
| 01:48.57 | Thanatermesis | oh... yes, the slow install... what is the speed using reiserfs Gwildor ? |
| 01:49.14 | Thanatermesis | dererk si, esta fijado, si upgradean el instalador no hay ningun problema |
| 01:49.20 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, maybe 30-mins before choose password |
| 01:49.27 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, wasnt that slow actually |
| 01:49.46 | Elive_user7 | Gracias ya instala :D |
| 01:49.58 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, faster than a debian install with KDE |
| 01:50.03 | Thanatermesis | Gwildor in any case about the installer... we don't need to make it "really good", im not sure if i use it more... i have writed it entirely for this version but i can be very posible to use anohter installer for 0.5 |
| 01:50.11 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, i also like the grub menu....very nifce |
| 01:50.23 | Thanatermesis | nice :) |
| 01:50.29 | Thanatermesis | better grub menu, yes ;) |
| 01:50.52 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, i was just thinking some sort of status thing....so i know that there is still more coming after choose password...... |
| 01:50.52 | dererk | ahmm |
| 01:51.22 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, i didnt know to wait to see "congradulations"..f..thats all |
| 01:51.43 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, only becasue it didnt do anything.....it "appeared" done |
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| 01:52.10 | Jambon | anyone up? |
| 01:52.14 | Gwildor | o/ |
| 01:52.31 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, but, i am really impressed.....my full time disyto now |
| 01:52.45 | Gwildor | s/disyto/distro |
| 01:52.52 | Jambon | uh, not sure if this it the right place, but the vobocopy elive repo seems to be missing a lot |
| 01:52.57 | Thanatermesis | Gwildor yes... but just in the moment of you select the grub "MBR or another", it appears another message... warning you to wait the final steps... i can be posible to make on it a "pause" for not appears in the same time.. then the user can be make more "attention" to this message |
| 01:53.15 | Jambon | i try to installed e17, but it needs efl-all, which sadly, doesn't exist |
| 01:53.19 | Thanatermesis | Jambon yes, its the good place ;) let me check.. |
| 01:53.38 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, yes, i saw thaqt this time.....but the other time, it took long time for that message, fi never saw it, so i rebooted |
| 01:54.05 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, thinking that it was done.....just error on my part, impatient |
| 01:54.08 | Thanatermesis | oh... finally vobcopy looks to work good :) we have look some problems on it because permissions... but it looks fine now... let me check about the download files via http.. |
| 01:54.23 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, heh, i was excited |
| 01:55.17 | Thanatermesis | Gwildor yes.. but your "error" (for give a name to it), is the "error" of very persons... very persons can be posible to make this "bad thing" (reboot for impatiente), it needs a little "better thing", ok.. i look after for add this "pause" for this message |
| 01:55.48 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, :P, as long as my "error" is helping :P |
| 01:55.58 | Thanatermesis | hehehe, yes ;) |
| 01:57.31 | Jambon | Thanatermesis: any word on the repo? |
| 01:58.09 | Thanatermesis | yes, i just checked now... it looks perfect Jambon, try "apt-get update", i don't look any problem on it |
| 01:59.10 | Jambon | lovely |
| 01:59.16 | Jambon | it finds elf-all |
| 01:59.33 | Jambon | but now THAT depends on three other packages |
| 01:59.45 | Jambon | which i CAN't get from my repos |
| 01:59.50 | Thanatermesis | hehehe, but this is not a problem of the repo then ;) |
| 01:59.57 | Jambon | sadly |
| 01:59.58 | Thanatermesis | just a problem of your system "not" is a Elive |
| 02:00.09 | Jambon | ya |
| 02:00.27 | Jambon | i just really want to get elive on my system without having to do a fresh install. |
| 02:00.45 | Jambon | so i can't switch from ubuntu gnome to e17 when i need them |
| 02:00.50 | Jambon | can switch |
| 02:01.00 | Thanatermesis | if you use the Elive packages.. you get e17 for example... but you not obtain the same result to a pure Elive system ;) |
| 02:01.22 | Thanatermesis | for you info.. the packges are prepaired for a ETCH debian system.. if you are on a ETCH debian system i don't think to you have any problem |
| 02:01.42 | Jambon | etch? |
| 02:03.04 | Thanatermesis | yes, debian "testing" |
| 02:03.10 | Thanatermesis | apt etch |
| 02:03.12 | apt | i heard etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
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| 02:04.52 | Gwildor | gotta go guys |
| 02:04.56 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, TY |
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| 02:28.18 | Elive_user26 | hello |
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| 02:29.22 | Elive_user26 | does sata support exist in elive? |
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| 02:33.48 | dererk | Elive_user26, I'm afraid not |
| 02:33.59 | dererk | yet* |
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| 02:36.08 | Elive_user51 | potatoes |
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| 02:47.41 | Thanatermesis | apt potato |
| 02:47.43 | apt | [potato] Debian 2.2, released August 14th, 2000, and is no longer supported. Ask me about "potato->woody" for upgrade information. something that grows underground |
| 02:47.55 | dererk | Thanatermesis, no sabias lo que era potato? |
| 02:48.00 | Thanatermesis | si xD |
| 02:48.03 | Thanatermesis | apt potatoes |
| 02:48.04 | apt | potatoes are root vegetables (or tubers), or the 2.2 series of stables dists perhaps |
| 02:48.05 | dererk | ahm, okok |
| 02:48.11 | Thanatermesis | dererk mi primera debian fue una potato ;) sin X |
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| 03:02.29 | KaKaRoTo-KS | hello :) |
| 03:03.19 | KaKaRoTo-KS | Thanatermesis: hellllo :) |
| 03:03.44 | dererk | hi |
| 03:04.08 | KaKaRoTo-KS | hi |
| 03:04.15 | Thanatermesis | hello KaKaRoTo-KS :) |
| 03:04.40 | KaKaRoTo-KS | how r u ? |
| 03:04.53 | KaKaRoTo-KS | btw congrats on : http://elivecd.org/gb/Main/News/_articles/13.html |
| 03:06.22 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 03:06.28 | Thanatermesis | very coming soon the official release ;) |
| 03:06.30 | KaKaRoTo-KS | by the way : <a target="_self" href="http://" onclick="window.open('http://www.bittorrent.com/dl/BitTorrent-Stable.exe'.... |
| 03:06.30 | KaKaRoTo-KS | href=http:// ? |
| 03:06.34 | Thanatermesis | im good, working a lot, and you ? |
| 03:06.48 | KaKaRoTo-KS | when I hover the link, it shows http:// on my status bar.. I though the links didn't work :) |
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| 03:06.57 | Thanatermesis | KaKaRoTo-KS i don't know but i think to if you click on it, it works |
| 03:07.07 | KaKaRoTo-KS | if javascript is disabled, they won't work :) |
| 03:07.16 | Thanatermesis | this is posible :/ |
| 03:07.24 | Thanatermesis | xsm works on java |
| 03:07.34 | KaKaRoTo-KS | I'm also good, very busy with school and my job.. |
| 03:07.41 | KaKaRoTo-KS | I'll also be leaving the aMSN team :( |
| 03:07.55 | KaKaRoTo-KS | it takes too much of my time, and I can't work on it anymore... |
| 03:07.56 | Thanatermesis | leaving ? why ? |
| 03:08.01 | Thanatermesis | oh.. :/ |
| 03:08.06 | Thanatermesis | yes... projects take time.. |
| 03:08.10 | KaKaRoTo-KS | alot |
| 03:08.18 | Thanatermesis | what have you work exactly on amsn ? developement code ? |
| 03:08.39 | KaKaRoTo-KS | especially when project manager with 20+ team members, and a very active mailing list |
| 03:09.11 | KaKaRoTo-KS | I'm mainly the project manager, so I manage everyone's work and make the decisions, design, etc.. + give support for users and code when I have time |
| 03:11.12 | Thanatermesis | sounds a good job :) |
| 03:11.33 | KaKaRoTo-KS | yep :) |
| 03:11.47 | Thanatermesis | its hard to manage the persons ? all persons has diferents opinions for the things and not all the time the ppl is happy with another decision... |
| 03:12.00 | Thanatermesis | afortunately i don't have this problem lol |
| 03:12.12 | KaKaRoTo-KS | lol, yeah |
| 03:13.20 | Thanatermesis | but i think to not is easy to manage all the persons and the persons accepts the decisions |
| 03:13.32 | KaKaRoTo-KS | exactly |
| 03:13.39 | KaKaRoTo-KS | + it takes time |
| 03:13.53 | KaKaRoTo-KS | especially with 30+ emails per day I have to answer |
| 03:14.14 | KaKaRoTo-KS | I study full time and I have a job full time, and mi novia full time too ;) |
| 03:14.31 | KaKaRoTo-KS | so it is very stressful |
| 03:16.04 | Thanatermesis | yeah, i lost a lot of time with ppl to say to give me a oppinion for a thing... |
| 03:16.52 | Thanatermesis | and i say "no because this", and this person say "yes, but if bla bla bla", and i need to reply "yes, but the problem is if bla bla bla.." and the person insist... for the final return in the same position... |
| 03:16.56 | Thanatermesis | it takes a lot of time |
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| 03:17.28 | pyc | hello :) |
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| 03:17.37 | KaKaRoTo-KS | YES! :D |
| 03:17.38 | Thanatermesis | yeah, the emails is another point... i have actually 1047 emails just from the 0.3 release... and it starts again :S |
| 03:17.54 | KaKaRoTo-KS | then I get mad, and start insulting F*** YOU!!! and then I have to make excuses :( |
| 03:17.55 | KaKaRoTo-KS | lol |
| 03:18.07 | gaatmx | hi |
| 03:18.07 | Thanatermesis | hehehe |
| 03:18.15 | Thanatermesis | hi pyc gaatmx |
| 03:18.20 | gaatmx | greetings from México |
| 03:18.40 | pyc | i've already downloaded 0.4 pre, finally :), may i know the md5sum? |
| 03:19.07 | KaKaRoTo-KS | I have 53070 emails :D |
| 03:19.12 | Thanatermesis | yes, not is easy to have a good conversation with diferents opinions... the another person don't understand to you know "this" because you have look and you don't know what he has in the mind... and then is when you and he lost time discuting inutilement hehe |
| 03:19.30 | KaKaRoTo-KS | pyc: http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/PreVersion |
| 03:19.38 | Thanatermesis | wow, seriously KaKaRoTo-KS ? this is a lot more than me... and im really tired lol, how you manage all in your time ? |
| 03:19.52 | Thanatermesis | thx :) |
| 03:19.52 | pyc | thanks ;) |
| 03:20.06 | gaatmx | It is "safe" to add the etch repositories to a HD instalation of elive? |
| 03:20.12 | KaKaRoTo-KS | difficult... that's why I decided to stop, take it a little bit easier |
| 03:20.27 | gaatmx | or should I stay within the elive repos? |
| 03:21.03 | KaKaRoTo-KS | pyc: np |
| 03:21.30 | KaKaRoTo-KS | Thanatermesis: btw, elive 0.4 has the latest cvs version of enlightenment and all of its modules ? |
| 03:21.52 | KaKaRoTo-KS | or did you choose a stable version released on get-e.org or something ? |
| 03:22.23 | Thanatermesis | of course KaKaRoTo-KS ;) but wait hte official release... im fixing and making better a lot of things ;) |
| 03:22.39 | KaKaRoTo-KS | alot of change between pre 0.4 and 0.4 ??? |
| 03:22.59 | Thanatermesis | gaatmx mmmh, Elive works perfectly with debian... Elive repos + debian repos, this is the main idea.. and by default, the repo of debian is added (no ?) |
| 03:23.39 | Thanatermesis | a lot lot no... but some things better ;) more for call it "the official release" ;) |
| 03:23.55 | Thanatermesis | and of course for give this codename for the 0.4 version... "serenity" :) |
| 03:24.56 | gaatmx | Thanatermesis.- so elive is more like "Debian with customized Enlightment"? |
| 03:25.22 | gaatmx | customized == improved |
| 03:26.43 | KaKaRoTo-KS | gaatmx: it's a distro based on debian, it's not just debian with enlightenment binaries... |
| 03:27.01 | Thanatermesis | gaatmx yes, Elive is a perfectly compatible debian (or in the maximum posible things), not very good chance for the gnome/kde things.. but the idea is to use only enlightenment for desktop, the person of don't want to use it.. don't want to use Elive |
| 03:27.18 | gaatmx | Thanatermesis.- ic |
| 03:27.46 | KaKaRoTo-KS | Thanatermesis: serenity, I like it :D |
| 03:28.32 | KaKaRoTo-KS | Thanatermesis: gtg... bye bye |
| 03:28.54 | pyc | there were talks, that mepis will be ubuntu base, how about elive? :) |
| 03:29.06 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 03:29.15 | Thanatermesis | bye KaKaRoTo-KS, and good chance with all |
| 03:29.25 | KaKaRoTo-KS | thx, take care |
| 03:29.33 | sinplomo | the same name as this movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379786/ |
| 03:30.36 | Thanatermesis | pyc Elive is based on debian and just on debian... BUT, he has now 180 own packages, no ubuntu packages or alienized packages... just "own packages" (posible ways included) |
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| 03:34.20 | pyc | ok.. thanatermesis.. just wanna know, if your sticking with debian long time... |
| 03:34.50 | pyc | its good to know :) |
| 03:35.09 | Thanatermesis | yes, i like to give the maximum compatibility with debian :) |
| 03:35.51 | Thanatermesis | when a Elive "from scratch" are created.. the only thing to it makes is build a debian etch on a directory and start installing packages from debian and Elive, making the necesary things.. and this is all :) |
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| 03:36.53 | gaatmx | Thanatermesis.- do the installer needs a pre-free hd space? or it can resize an existing one? |
| 03:37.27 | Thanatermesis | pre-free ? mmmh, you just need minimum 2.4 gb of free space for install it |
| 03:39.02 | pyc | thanatermesis, have you considerd making a strip down elive? maybe we'll call it elite... :) |
| 03:40.31 | pyc | around 250 mb to 300 mb, only little apps, more like dsl concept.. |
| 03:41.53 | Thanatermesis | yes, this is in my TODO list ;) |
| 03:42.07 | Thanatermesis | just a version for a "pocket cd" ;) (mini-cd) |
| 03:42.39 | pyc | wow... :) thats great, man you are brilliant :)... |
| 03:42.43 | Thanatermesis | and not just this but also make this for very slow machines |
| 03:42.59 | Thanatermesis | a "ultra-light" version |
| 03:43.29 | pyc | i cant wait to have it too :), now that i have 0.4 pre... |
| 03:43.47 | Thanatermesis | hehehe |
| 03:43.57 | Thanatermesis | its a future idea yes... but i need time first for it |
| 03:44.22 | Thanatermesis | i think to i need to wait for build it, for the 0.5 release, because is a totally diferent system |
| 03:44.41 | pyc | damn small linux, should start worrying... :) it might replace them ... eventualy... |
| 03:45.54 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 03:45.58 | Thanatermesis | not exactly... |
| 03:46.09 | Thanatermesis | damn small linux has VERY his name... |
| 03:46.15 | Thanatermesis | is VERY light |
| 03:46.23 | pyc | yeah... :) |
| 03:46.43 | Thanatermesis | this version "light" of Elive is just... a "very light version", but i don't think to has more light than DSL |
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| 03:48.30 | Gwildor | anyone about? |
| 03:49.02 | Gwildor | :) |
| 03:49.04 | Gwildor | :( |
| 03:49.14 | pyc | i havent burned 0.4, but i'm using 0.3, is it ok to burn 0.4 from 0.3 install? |
| 03:49.27 | Gwildor | just burn the iso? |
| 03:49.29 | Gwildor | ofcourse |
| 03:50.12 | pyc | ok, because i've heard of permission issues in cdrom with 0.3... :) |
| 03:50.21 | Gwildor | ohm yhen that i dont know |
| 03:50.23 | Gwildor | then |
| 03:51.16 | pyc | i'll just try it then... :) |
| 03:51.29 | pyc | gtg .... |
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| 03:52.14 | Thanatermesis | yeah... little problems on the 0.3 about permissions and cdrom things... but perfectly fixeable |
| 03:52.14 | Gwildor | fahh, help |
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| 03:52.43 | GPLGeek | this torrent is really healthy, a friend said he got on it at school and was getting 1MB/s down |
| 03:52.58 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, i tried to play diablo using wine....buyt anyways....now engage is in the middle of the screen, how do i move it back down? |
| 03:53.05 | Gwildor | GPLGeek, :) |
| 03:53.33 | Gwildor | let me check the stats |
| 03:53.54 | GPLGeek | Well he told me he was going to download it and then he sent me screenshots a few min later |
| 03:54.05 | GPLGeek | so I know it was fast |
| 03:54.29 | Gwildor | Peers |
| 03:54.29 | Gwildor | [See full list]108 seeder(s), 44 leecher(s) = 152 peer(s) total |
| 03:54.29 | Gwildor | Peers |
| 03:54.29 | Gwildor | [See full list]118 seeder(s), 34 leecher(s) = 152 peer(s) total |
| 03:54.29 | Gwildor | |
| 03:54.32 | GPLGeek | I just turned my seed off I was serving 50KB/s up. My brother wanted some of the upstream lol |
| 03:54.34 | Thanatermesis | Gwildor on e16 or e17 ? |
| 03:54.40 | Thanatermesis | diablo are launched good ? |
| 03:54.44 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, e16 |
| 03:55.06 | Thanatermesis | on the middle of the screen ? |
| 03:55.11 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, yes, it said "please insert CD" when i tried to play, but autoplay was really nice |
| 03:55.18 | Thanatermesis | :)= |
| 03:55.38 | GPLGeek | cd protection sucks |
| 03:55.44 | GPLGeek | might want to find a no-cd patch |
| 03:55.44 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, it is not on the bottom edge anymorfe......centered left and right.....almost centered up anbd down |
| 03:55.49 | Thanatermesis | i don't know... kill engage, hehe, you restart after e16 and appears again ;) |
| 03:55.56 | Gwildor | GPLGeek, yeah..... |
| 03:56.01 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, ill try |
| 03:56.05 | Thanatermesis | Gwildor control-alt-x |
| 03:56.08 | GPLGeek | you also need to write letters and emails to game creators and tell them not to require cds because people non-windows want to play with api wrappers |
| 03:56.38 | Thanatermesis | yeah, this is a good point for linux |
| 03:56.40 | GPLGeek | Especially those game creators that host rootkits and trojans on those cds |
| 03:56.41 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, ive already tried both.......doesnt go back to regular spot.....stay in bad spot |
| 03:56.44 | Thanatermesis | and for the user of the game |
| 03:56.56 | GPLGeek | there are wine ways to get around safedisk and securom |
| 03:57.18 | GPLGeek | These methods NEVER stop people from hacking the game and getting it to work, it only stops honest people |
| 03:57.28 | Gwildor | GPLGeek, heh, i jsut had it and figured id try it....didnt really WANT to paly |
| 03:57.32 | GPLGeek | and what if the cd scratches? |
| 03:57.41 | Gwildor | GPLGeek, i know Thanatermesis was looking for input on it |
| 03:57.50 | GPLGeek | ya |
| 03:57.56 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, does engage have a config maybe? |
| 03:58.22 | GPLGeek | We need to sponsor anti-cd hacking methods in order to make elive a popular gaming platform IMO , and that may or may not be legal. |
| 03:58.51 | Gwildor | how to show hidden files in evidence? |
| 04:00.10 | Gwildor | nvm,,.....ill just use CLI |
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| 04:02.43 | Gwildor | umm, text editor in elive? |
| 04:03.55 | Gwildor | nano |
| 04:04.09 | Gwildor | hmmmm.....no congig to set position.....uh, oh |
| 04:08.39 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, any idea? |
| 04:09.13 | Thanatermesis | Gwildor you can't posible to close engage ? |
| 04:09.21 | Thanatermesis | with control-alt-x you don't close it ? |
| 04:09.36 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, yes <killall engage> but it goes back to bad spot wehn restart it |
| 04:10.09 | Gwildor | i can try taht....BRB |
| 04:10.31 | Thanatermesis | restart ? why restart ? |
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| 04:11.41 | Elive_user2 | Thanatermesis, how to take a screenshot?...i will show you |
| 04:12.02 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, how to take a screenshot?...i will show you |
| 04:12.58 | Thanatermesis | Gwildor "capturar name" |
| 04:13.04 | Thanatermesis | and you have it on /tmp/shots |
| 04:14.06 | Gwildor | how to get to you?....email? |
| 04:14.10 | Gwildor | webhost? |
| 04:14.18 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/upload |
| 04:14.30 | Gwildor | ty |
| 04:15.33 | Gwildor | http://thana.no-ip.org/upload/index.php?dir=&file=untitled.jpg |
| 04:16.04 | Thanatermesis | humm... |
| 04:16.07 | Gwildor | GAH, i really really like fthis |
| 04:16.11 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, my thought exactly |
| 04:16.17 | Gwildor | i will BRB |
| 04:16.48 | Thanatermesis | ok, i fix this thing for the official release |
| 04:16.56 | Thanatermesis | for move now, just try "alt + mouse" |
| 04:20.13 | Gwildor | oh, perfect, that is all i needed |
| 04:20.27 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, i wouldnt call it broken, there is nothing to fix...i jsut didnt know how to mivfe it |
| 04:20.53 | Gwildor | "alt + mouse" is perfect TY |
| 04:20.59 | Gwildor | but, i have to go....ty |
| 04:22.04 | GPLGeek | is that bug something that happens after changing resolution? |
| 04:22.08 | Thanatermesis | ok, bbl |
| 04:22.30 | Thanatermesis | GPLGeek in some part... its a "tipical bug when a program change the resolution"... some programs make this problems... |
| 04:22.32 | GPLGeek | later Thanatermesis |
| 04:22.39 | Thanatermesis | but exactly for engage... it "remembers" actuall ythe position |
| 04:22.49 | Thanatermesis | then if you move, it has remember this position |
| 04:22.50 | GPLGeek | Oh |
| 04:22.57 | Thanatermesis | i have look this problem another time with another person |
| 04:22.59 | GPLGeek | maybe you can clear the value so it gets a new one each time? |
| 04:23.02 | Thanatermesis | and i think to now needs a fix :) |
| 04:23.13 | Thanatermesis | yeah, don't remember the position and all things ;) |
| 04:23.27 | Thanatermesis | no.. im not go... just working ;) |
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| 04:23.42 | GPLGeek | ;) |
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| 04:34.22 | KaKaRoTo-KS | Thanatermesis: wow :o |
| 04:34.31 | KaKaRoTo-KS | I just tried elive on VMware, works great! |
| 04:34.41 | KaKaRoTo-KS | I don't know how it works yet, not used to it :D |
| 04:34.49 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 04:34.53 | Thanatermesis | the 0.4-pre ? |
| 04:34.54 | KaKaRoTo-KS | I would have loved to have tooltips on the items in the iBar |
| 04:35.00 | KaKaRoTo-KS | yeah, 0.4-pre |
| 04:35.13 | KaKaRoTo-KS | but, I think tooltips are a e17 problem, not yours :P |
| 04:35.35 | KaKaRoTo-KS | btw, the configuration panel, is it yours? |
| 04:36.03 | KaKaRoTo-KS | elive panel |
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| 04:40.26 | KaKaRoTo-KS | Thanatermesis: maybe someone reported it before, but the 'elive panel' is GREAT!!!! :P |
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| 04:41.07 | KaKaRoTo-KS | back |
| 04:41.08 | Thanatermesis | thanks :) |
| 04:41.09 | KaKaRoTo-KS | Thanatermesis: maybe someone reported it before, but the 'elive panel' is GREAT!!!! :P |
| 04:41.14 | KaKaRoTo-KS | I only see one little problem for now... |
| 04:41.34 | Thanatermesis | <KaKaRoTo-KS> btw, the configuration panel, is it yours? |
| 04:41.36 | KaKaRoTo-KS | when you choose something and it launches an app, it then returns to the main screen while I think it should return to the previous screen only. |
| 04:41.37 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es yours |
| 04:41.50 | Thanatermesis | yeah, i have writed it :) |
| 04:41.54 | KaKaRoTo-KS | :) |
| 04:41.57 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es when you choose something and it launches an app, it then returns to the main screen while I think it should return to the previous screen only. |
| 04:42.00 | KaKaRoTo-KS | using ELF ? |
| 04:42.01 | Thanatermesis | with a lot of features added ;) |
| 04:42.05 | Thanatermesis | yes, edje principally |
| 04:42.10 | KaKaRoTo-KS | cool |
| 04:42.12 | Thanatermesis | im not coder, hehe |
| 04:42.36 | KaKaRoTo-KS | oh, also, the two button on the sides (for 'previous' and 'exit', should also give us a 'tooltip') |
| 04:42.47 | KaKaRoTo-KS | not tooltip.. but message on that bar in the bottom |
| 04:44.16 | Thanatermesis | yes but... boh |
| 04:44.21 | KaKaRoTo-KS | lol |
| 04:44.23 | Thanatermesis | i don't think to its really hard |
| 04:44.23 | KaKaRoTo-KS | just suggestions :) |
| 04:44.35 | Thanatermesis | in any case, the user just needs to "try" |
| 04:44.47 | KaKaRoTo-KS | yes, and it's just to avoid then trying |
| 04:44.49 | Thanatermesis | more play, and more understand :) |
| 04:44.55 | KaKaRoTo-KS | :) |
| 04:46.54 | Thanatermesis | elpanel is just "a little ugly"... i can be posible to try another theme in some time for he |
| 04:47.13 | KaKaRoTo-KS | I think it's great work |
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| 04:51.23 | Thanatermesis | thanks :) |
| 04:53.04 | KaKaRoTo-KS | Thanatermesis: just oepned xmms, it doesn't find the URL for the radio |
| 04:53.27 | KaKaRoTo-KS | maybe you should reset it to http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/1035 |
| 04:55.20 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 04:55.24 | Thanatermesis | you have internet connection ? |
| 04:55.31 | KaKaRoTo-KS | yes, sure |
| 04:55.44 | Thanatermesis | mmh, it works on me |
| 04:56.08 | Thanatermesis | what is the stream of you look when you press Control-3 ? |
| 04:57.00 | KaKaRoTo-KS | open xmms (from iBar), click play, it tries to get to http://255.188.234.65:8022 |
| 04:57.13 | KaKaRoTo-KS | that's the stream of ctrl-3 |
| 04:57.25 | Thanatermesis | oh.... |
| 04:57.35 | Thanatermesis | i think to its only a "old configuration" |
| 04:57.42 | Thanatermesis | try "elive-essence" from the audio menu's |
| 04:58.49 | KaKaRoTo-KS | ok |
| 04:59.16 | KaKaRoTo-KS | works :) |
| 04:59.20 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 04:59.30 | Thanatermesis | in any case i have writed on my todo for change this ;) |
| 04:59.35 | KaKaRoTo-KS | so you have to update the configuration and set the 'last played filename' to the essence path |
| 04:59.41 | Thanatermesis | yep |
| 04:59.41 | KaKaRoTo-KS | cool |
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| 05:02.21 | KaKaRoTo-KS | http://www3.get-e.org/Backgrounds/Animated/_files/e17_bg_layered_sky.edj <-- as background + elive essence of the current song |
| 05:02.22 | KaKaRoTo-KS | WOW :D |
| 05:02.40 | KaKaRoTo-KS | hehe |
| 05:03.56 | Thanatermesis | hehehee |
| 05:06.32 | KaKaRoTo-KS | e17 segfaulted :( |
| 05:07.20 | Thanatermesis | hehehe |
| 05:07.46 | KaKaRoTo-KS | loaded 'monitor' module and enabled 'CPU' |
| 05:08.13 | Thanatermesis | uh... old module, im not sure if works "good" |
| 05:08.53 | KaKaRoTo-KS | well, it was not loaded to begin with, so I guess it's unstable |
| 05:09.01 | KaKaRoTo-KS | it's not important, don't worry, not your fault :P |
| 05:09.55 | Jambon | hey do any of you have a preference between debian and ubuntu? I know elive is based on debian, but for a new user would i experience more problems with an elive install, or ubuntu with a cvs build? |
| 05:13.47 | Thanatermesis | Jambon an 0.3 ? yes.. is little buggy |
| 05:18.54 | Thanatermesis | apt bts |
| 05:18.56 | apt | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug |
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| 05:23.03 | KaKaRoTo-KS | Thanatermesis: elive recognized my disk drive through VMware.. so I could install it through VMware! |
| 05:23.19 | KaKaRoTo-KS | but I want to reboot and check if it will also work directly booting through a cd... |
| 05:23.23 | KaKaRoTo-KS | (SATA drives) |
| 05:23.52 | KaKaRoTo-KS | (humm.. VMware emulates IDE and SCSI.. maybe that's why, it can't emulate SATA) |
| 05:24.10 | Thanatermesis | Elive works.. but don't make your hard disk working (same kernel to 0.3 on the liveCD mode) |
| 05:24.35 | KaKaRoTo-KS | yeah, ok |
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| 05:25.31 | KaKaRoTo-KS | Thanatermesis: the kernel used in a disk install is different from the one used in livecd mode ? |
| 05:25.57 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 05:26.12 | KaKaRoTo-KS | what if I installed elive through VMware |
| 05:26.15 | Thanatermesis | the kernel on the installed mode is a good beautifull kernel based on debian with support of SATA :) |
| 05:26.18 | KaKaRoTo-KS | then booted on elive, it should work,right ? |
| 05:26.26 | Thanatermesis | but the problem is if you can't posible to write on your hard disk (installation) |
| 05:26.57 | KaKaRoTo-KS | VMware emulates IDE drives, so I CAN see my disk now when launching elivecd through VMware |
| 05:26.59 | Thanatermesis | a solution is to install to another device and after, simply copy o tgz the system and put in your hard disk from another livecd...and Elive has installed ;) |
| 05:27.43 | KaKaRoTo-KS | no other disk :D |
| 05:28.26 | KaKaRoTo-KS | anyways |
| 05:28.28 | KaKaRoTo-KS | I'm going |
| 05:28.30 | KaKaRoTo-KS | bye :) |
| 05:28.47 | roxville | bye KaKaRoTo-KS |
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| 05:28.51 | KaKaRoTo-KS | bye roxville |
| 05:29.00 | roxville | hello Elive_user |
| 05:29.11 | roxville | Elive_user2 i mean :) |
| 05:29.22 | Thanatermesis | bye KaKaRoTo-KS |
| 05:29.30 | Jambon | is the elvie repo updated from cvs or is it just what in elive? |
| 05:29.34 | Elive_user2 | oops need to reset username after 0.4pre install |
| 05:30.10 | roxville | :) |
| 05:30.34 | roxville | i try to remember everybody by IP too... but it's tough... |
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| 05:31.20 | yawlright | :P |
| 05:31.56 | yawlright | i know everyones ip by heart...not |
| 05:31.58 | roxville | ahhh :) |
| 05:32.13 | roxville | did you shave? |
| 05:32.29 | roxville | you look different, somehow... |
| 05:33.03 | yawlright | its the shirt |
| 05:33.13 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 05:33.26 | roxville | oh yeah... wow, it's flashy! |
| 05:33.36 | roxville | you been out dancing tonight? |
| 05:33.56 | yawlright | mnope dinner with the parents |
| 05:34.12 | roxville | so why the flashy shirt? |
| 05:34.56 | yawlright | i take my parents for dinner then the discotec |
| 05:35.05 | yawlright | of course |
| 05:35.07 | roxville | i never wore a glitter-shirt when i had dinner with my parents |
| 05:35.19 | roxville | but it's ok... everyone's different... |
| 05:35.48 | roxville | oj ok... drop the subject now? :) |
| 05:36.33 | yawlright | ok |
| 05:37.06 | roxville | i'd love to talk glitter all night, but... i wasn't sure you were up for it... |
| 05:38.01 | roxville | is it snowing where you are? |
| 05:38.26 | roxville | either that, or you need to buy a bottle of head&shoulders... |
| 05:38.36 | yawlright | soon, but the storm is mainly south of us |
| 05:38.48 | yawlright | zing |
| 05:38.53 | roxville | :) |
| 05:39.54 | roxville | we won't get snow down here... but it's just as well, coz if it snowed just a few flakes tomorrow, all the schools would be closed monday |
| 05:40.19 | roxville | and i need for my step son to go to school |
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| 05:41.04 | yawlright | scholls only close here for extreme blizzards |
| 05:41.28 | yawlright | or we'd only have 3 days of school a year |
| 05:41.36 | roxville | yeah... well charleston, sc is not known for it's skiing resorts |
| 05:41.57 | roxville | lol |
| 05:42.02 | yawlright | ...but it has some right? |
| 05:42.13 | roxville | lol, no |
| 05:42.20 | roxville | it's a summer town |
| 05:42.30 | yawlright | i think there is one in nc |
| 05:42.34 | roxville | winters are very mild here |
| 05:42.46 | roxville | oh yeah, nc is different |
| 05:43.29 | roxville | but charleston is on the coast... there may be a skiing thing up in the mountains in sc too |
| 05:43.47 | Thanatermesis | hey! good session on elive-essence now |
| 05:43.51 | roxville | not sure, never been |
| 05:44.04 | yawlright | speaking of the weather...the weather module always says fair and 30 deg |
| 05:44.17 | roxville | isn't that awesome? |
| 05:45.00 | Elive_user2 | roxville, you missed me |
| 05:45.20 | Gwildor | roxville, working isntall now :P |
| 05:45.53 | yawlright | i was too distracting chattin him up |
| 05:46.10 | roxville | yep |
| 05:46.12 | Gwildor | :P |
| 05:46.18 | roxville | hey Gwildor how are ya? |
| 05:46.36 | Gwildor | heh, awesome now that elive is installed |
| 05:46.52 | Gwildor | the more i play with it, the more i realize how perfect it is |
| 05:47.11 | Gwildor | everything work out of the box,,,....flash.....dvd..... |
| 05:47.14 | Gwildor | lol |
| 05:47.30 | Gwildor | xmms still crash......but ill find a fix for that |
| 05:47.53 | roxville | Gwildor, if everything works... DON"T do a dist upgrade for a few days... |
| 05:48.04 | Thanatermesis | hehehe |
| 05:49.04 | Gwildor | didnt plan on it.....prob ever, but may i ask why? |
| 05:49.12 | roxville | it's a HUGE upgrade... and for some reason, i had to start firefox from terminal now |
| 05:49.23 | Gwildor | hmmm |
| 05:49.39 | Gwildor | i normally dont mess to much if everything working... |
| 05:49.54 | roxville | and... new version of hal and ivman... and they are right now INCOMPATIBLE |
| 05:50.07 | Gwildor | i only upgrade, really, when i have to have the newer version as a depend, or need the funtionality from a specific software |
| 05:50.12 | roxville | su usb sticks and such are NOT recognized |
| 05:50.19 | Gwildor | yikes |
| 05:50.23 | roxville | yeah |
| 05:50.31 | Gwildor | hehe, ive got a free 512 HP stick coming soon :P |
| 05:50.58 | roxville | am where he isthana just looked at the clock and sighed... it's |
| 05:51.13 | roxville | free? |
| 05:51.23 | roxville | send me one too! |
| 05:51.24 | Gwildor | hehe, yes |
| 05:51.26 | Gwildor | :P |
| 05:51.30 | Gwildor | wish i could to everyone |
| 05:51.38 | Gwildor | im lucky im getting mine |
| 05:51.42 | roxville | you can! |
| 05:51.56 | Gwildor | 8D |
| 05:55.03 | Gwildor | can you guys connect to the default xmms stream?/ |
| 05:55.21 | Gwildor | i cant, and i think that playing the stream might be ther reason iot crash's |
| 05:55.32 | Gwildor | it displaye no errors when launched from CLI |
| 05:57.22 | roxville | i can't even open xmms! |
| 05:57.33 | roxville | or can i? |
| 05:57.47 | Gwildor | lol |
| 05:57.58 | roxville | nope |
| 05:58.11 | roxville | but i haven't installed the pre yet |
| 05:58.13 | Thanatermesis | Gwildor open xmms from a terminal and look the messages |
| 05:58.26 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, no messages :( |
| 05:58.39 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, imma look into it, but im off to bed...GF says so |
| 05:58.57 | Thanatermesis | i don't understand how ot posible / why xmms can be crash |
| 05:59.04 | yawlright | uh oh xmms froze |
| 05:59.06 | roxville | ok Gwildor have a good night |
| 05:59.25 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, me neither.....i will try to find fix |
| 05:59.35 | roxville | Thanatermesis, would it be libxine that causes it |
| 05:59.42 | roxville | same as for eclair? |
| 05:59.56 | Gwildor | never launched that..... |
| 06:00.01 | Gwildor | but im off....laters |
| 06:00.08 | roxville | ok, night |
| 06:00.45 | yawlright | yep xmms crashed on me too |
| 06:01.08 | Thanatermesis | roxville no, xmms don't use libxine |
| 06:01.14 | roxville | ok |
| 06:01.26 | Thanatermesis | yawlright just on the installed system ? |
| 06:01.53 | roxville | oops |
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| 06:02.37 | roxville | yawlright, wb |
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| 06:02.52 | Thanatermesis | yawlright just on the installed system ? |
| 06:03.20 | yawlright | ya |
| 06:03.59 | yawlright | oops looks like the program killer works great though |
| 06:05.04 | Thanatermesis | strange... |
| 06:05.15 | yawlright | i could check on the livecd too if you want |
| 06:06.04 | Thanatermesis | if you can... yes |
| 06:06.12 | Thanatermesis | or better.. |
| 06:06.15 | Thanatermesis | make this: |
| 06:06.25 | Thanatermesis | strace -o /tmp/strace.log xmms |
| 06:06.28 | Thanatermesis | give a crash |
| 06:06.39 | Thanatermesis | and send me the /tmp/strace.log file to http://thana.no-ip.org/upload |
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| 06:08.50 | yawlright | ill try |
| 06:10.43 | yawlright | brb |
| 06:10.50 | roxville | wow, i gotta see this, brb |
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| 06:12.25 | roxville | woow..... |
| 06:12.31 | Thanatermesis | what ? |
| 06:13.05 | roxville | the layered sky BG |
| 06:13.12 | Thanatermesis | hahahaha |
| 06:13.22 | Thanatermesis | its very old ;) |
| 06:13.26 | Thanatermesis | and sucks a lot |
| 06:13.30 | Thanatermesis | but impressionant :) |
| 06:13.38 | roxville | i've never seen it |
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| 06:13.52 | roxville | it's very "choppy" |
| 06:13.55 | yawlright | upload where? |
| 06:13.58 | roxville | hey Lightning_ThB |
| 06:14.09 | Lightning_ThB | Hi there |
| 06:14.13 | Thanatermesis | and send me the /tmp/strace.log file to http://thana.no-ip.org/upload <<- |
| 06:14.25 | Thanatermesis | apt choppy |
| 06:14.40 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es choppy |
| 06:14.57 | roxville | Thanatermesis, ... it's not smooth... the playback is not smooth |
| 06:15.13 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es smooth |
| 06:15.19 | roxville | Lightning_ThB, how are you, and what can we do for you? |
| 06:15.44 | Thanatermesis | roxville yeah, it needs a really big computer |
| 06:16.01 | Thanatermesis | but try to open the bg with the command "edje" roxville, you can be posible to look more smooth |
| 06:16.01 | Lightning_ThB | I'm doing well, thanks. Just here to say hi anyway ^^ And say that I love this distro! |
| 06:16.20 | Thanatermesis | welcome Lightning_ThB :) |
| 06:16.50 | roxville | Thanatermesis, yeah... it's taking 92% cpu now... |
| 06:16.55 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 06:17.13 | roxville | yes i tried that... and wanted to see it as a BG |
| 06:17.21 | Lightning_ThB | It was funny... I had just installed Elive 0.3 on February 09, and when I woke up the other day... Elive 0.4 out! |
| 06:17.22 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 06:17.45 | Lightning_ThB | I've downloaded and installed it right away ^^ |
| 06:17.49 | Thanatermesis | hehehe Lightning_ThB, yeah, but forget 0.3, the release of 0.4 its a lot better ;) (wait the official release) |
| 06:17.57 | roxville | hehe, well we are glad you like it... we like it too! :) |
| 06:18.08 | roxville | so now, we can like it together!!!!! |
| 06:18.15 | Lightning_ThB | Yeah! |
| 06:19.00 | roxville | or was it love? naaah... |
| 06:19.04 | yawlright | wierd... won't allow the upload |
| 06:20.36 | Thanatermesis | yawlright email ? |
| 06:20.54 | yawlright | ericlundy@gmail.com |
| 06:21.16 | Thanatermesis | no.. you can send me the file via email ? |
| 06:21.33 | roxville | wow, the cpu went down to under 2% when i changed BG |
| 06:21.43 | Thanatermesis | hehehe |
| 06:21.44 | Thanatermesis | yeah |
| 06:22.04 | yawlright | sure ill send it |
| 06:22.22 | Thanatermesis | thanatermesis.elive AT gmail |
| 06:22.46 | yawlright | k |
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| 06:28.15 | yawlright | sent |
| 06:29.39 | Thanatermesis | ok |
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| 06:30.04 | yawlright | i opened and crashed xmms after setting up the strace, hope it helps |
| 06:33.39 | Thanatermesis | yawlright mmmh, try this |
| 06:34.23 | Thanatermesis | export MALLOC_CHECK_=0 |
| 06:34.30 | Thanatermesis | and after in the same terminal, launch xmms |
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| 06:36.17 | Lightning_ThB[Aw | ... and, as always, my pc crashes whenever I attempt to use Wine... |
| 06:36.36 | yawlright | ok |
| 06:36.40 | Thanatermesis | o_O' |
| 06:36.47 | Lightning_ThB[Aw | Well... whatever. Who needs M$ programs anyway? |
| 06:36.55 | Thanatermesis | im not :) |
| 06:38.29 | Lightning_ThB[Aw | I guess I need a proper video card... (and not a SiS 630 onboard sucking 64Mb from my RAM) |
| 06:38.56 | roxville | ouch |
| 06:39.06 | Thanatermesis | you can be posible to switch more in the BIOS |
| 06:39.26 | Lightning_ThB[Aw | Nope. This is as far as it goes... |
| 06:39.28 | Thanatermesis | i play DVD's on my 360 Mhz + 64 MB ram laptop with only 2 Mb of video memory :) |
| 06:39.48 | Lightning_ThB[Aw | With eMovix? |
| 06:40.04 | Lightning_ThB[Aw | That's the only way I can do something like that |
| 06:40.08 | Thanatermesis | a little video card is not very expensive... try to found a 2º hand matrox card on ebay ;) |
| 06:40.11 | Thanatermesis | no... just Elive :) |
| 06:40.48 | Lightning_ThB[Aw | Elive runs on a 360 Mhz laptop? O.O |
| 06:41.06 | Thanatermesis | yes, its running on my laptop ;) |
| 06:41.13 | Thanatermesis | but the problem not is hte Mhz... is the RAM |
| 06:41.36 | Thanatermesis | i think to works perfectly on a 120 Mhz |
| 06:41.46 | Thanatermesis | if has minimum 128 mb of ram |
| 06:42.19 | Lightning_ThB[Aw | Wow... |
| 06:43.14 | Lightning_ThB[Aw | That explains how Elive runs nice and smooth on my P3 733Mhz with 256Mb of RAM... |
| 06:43.23 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 06:44.30 | Thanatermesis | yawlright what is the result ? i don't found any strange thing on the strace log :/ |
| 06:46.41 | yawlright | 'message: device: default |
| 06:47.01 | Lightning_ThB | And, uh... I guess this should be quite trivial, but... how can I get "pump" to run on boot? |
| 06:48.35 | Thanatermesis | yawlright but no more crash ? |
| 06:48.57 | Thanatermesis | Lightning_ThB pump ? what do you want exactly ? dhcp for your network ? |
| 06:48.57 | yawlright | xmms locked up, terminal just chillin with the previous message |
| 06:49.12 | Thanatermesis | "locked up" = crashed ? |
| 06:49.32 | Lightning_ThB | Yup. That's it. |
| 06:49.51 | yawlright | still on screen but unresponsive |
| 06:50.01 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 06:50.04 | Thanatermesis | and your sound works Lightning_ThB ? |
| 06:50.13 | Thanatermesis | ops, yawlright |
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| 06:50.32 | yawlright | went unresponsive after i clicked play |
| 06:51.37 | Lightning_ThB | If sound is not working, an alsaconfig should do it. |
| 06:53.09 | Thanatermesis | yawlright launch from "demos", the "ibm video" or "multi-videos" for check the sound (example) |
| 06:53.32 | Thanatermesis | i think to the problem is your audio card don't works good for example, or maybe a bad configuration on xmms |
| 06:53.39 | Thanatermesis | about the soundcard device |
| 06:54.34 | yawlright | hmmm, no sound |
| 06:54.56 | Lightning_ThB | Then run alsaconfig on Terminal as root |
| 06:55.40 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 06:55.45 | Thanatermesis | yes, or from elpanel |
| 06:55.56 | yawlright | k |
| 06:56.11 | Thanatermesis | yawlright, please, configure the sound and reboot the machine for look if works, i need to know this for add a special thing to the official release... |
| 06:56.31 | yawlright | k |
| 06:58.59 | yawlright | all better |
| 06:59.18 | yawlright | sound works |
| 06:59.22 | Thanatermesis | after the reboot ? |
| 06:59.26 | Thanatermesis | what happens ? |
| 06:59.31 | gaatmx | is the nodcc option still needed when using some nvidia MX cards? |
| 06:59.48 | yawlright | after running alsaconfig |
| 06:59.53 | yawlright | ,ill reboot |
| 07:00.39 | Lightning_ThB | Rebooting is not needed, I guess... Same thing happened here, and alsaconfig solved it just fine ^^ |
| 07:00.44 | gaatmx | i mean noddc |
| 07:01.55 | Lightning_ThB | If you guys want, I could make an Brazilian Portuguese translation to Elive (just show me what/where to translate, and I can make it) |
| 07:02.36 | Thanatermesis | Lightning_ThB not really... the soundcard is posible to are disconfigured after a reboot... i have look this rarely on some machines |
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| 07:03.32 | Thanatermesis | because the strange kernel used on the liveCD mode and their list of modules for load in the boot of this diferent kernel |
| 07:05.00 | roxville | Lightning_ThB, that would be very welcome! we need all kinds of translations... and thana needs to try yerba mate'. tell him to try it :) |
| 07:05.38 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 07:05.43 | Lightning_ThB | Hehe |
| 07:06.05 | Thanatermesis | yawlright without reconfigure the sound card... the you have sound by default after the reboot ? |
| 07:06.47 | yawlright | yes |
| 07:06.56 | yawlright | i do |
| 07:06.59 | Lightning_ThB | Por supuesto, a mi me gusta mucho tomar té de yerba mate ^^ |
| 07:08.24 | yawlright | sin azucar |
| 07:08.29 | yawlright | :P |
| 07:09.01 | Lightning_ThB | XD |
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| 07:09.42 | Elive_user2 | anybody can help me please? |
| 07:10.26 | Lightning_ThB | Elive_user2: How? |
| 07:11.16 | Elive_user2 | Lightening_ThB: I installed Elive to my hd. But it is not detecting my dvd rom or burner |
| 07:11.44 | Elive_user2 | I can't play my dvd because mplayer cant find it... |
| 07:11.55 | Lightning_ThB | Check your fstab and see if it's ok |
| 07:12.09 | Elive_user2 | yet, gnomeburner sees the drives |
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| 07:12.39 | blufox | hi people |
| 07:12.42 | blufox | hello |
| 07:12.44 | blufox | :) |
| 07:12.49 | Elive_user2 | How would I best set fstab up for them to be seen? |
| 07:12.53 | blufox | need a little help |
| 07:13.00 | blufox | for wat Elive_user2? |
| 07:13.13 | Lightning_ThB | Elive_user2: If your drive is inn the secondary IDE... |
| 07:13.28 | yawlright | because gnombaker does some autodetecting for you |
| 07:13.30 | Lightning_ThB | set it to /dev/hdc |
| 07:13.38 | Elive_user2 | I have 2 dvd one a rom and the over a burner |
| 07:13.47 | blufox | or tcheck the output of fdisk -l |
| 07:14.10 | blufox | to find out which one is ur secondary IDE /dev/hdab or /dev/hdc or anything else ") |
| 07:14.14 | blufox | :) |
| 07:14.41 | Lightning_ThB | That's way better ^^ I'm used to my defaults ^^ |
| 07:14.46 | Elive_user2 | /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 0 1 |
| 07:14.46 | Elive_user2 | /dev/hda3 none swap sw 0 0 |
| 07:14.46 | Elive_user2 | /dev/hda2 /home ext3 defaults 0 1 |
| 07:14.46 | Elive_user2 | proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 |
| 07:14.47 | Elive_user2 | /dev/fd0 /floppy auto user,noauto 0 0 |
| 07:14.49 | Elive_user2 | /dev/cdrom /cdrom auto ro,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 07:14.51 | Elive_user2 | /dev/cdrom1 /cdrom1 auto ro,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 07:14.53 | Elive_user2 | /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 auto noauto,users,exec,umask=000 0 0 |
| 07:15.10 | Elive_user2 | sorry for many lines |
| 07:15.25 | Thanatermesis | yawlright ok then.... mmmh, i add the configurator of the soundcard after the 1º boot of the installed system |
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| 07:16.03 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2, this is not the FSTAB of a Elive 0.4 |
| 07:16.14 | blufox | if it is not mounted automatically on boot try mounting manually whats the problem? |
| 07:16.18 | Elive_user2 | I have 03 |
| 07:16.22 | Thanatermesis | yeah... |
| 07:16.28 | Thanatermesis | 0.3 has problems with the Cdroms and things |
| 07:16.38 | blufox | 03 didnt wuite get u :( |
| 07:16.42 | blufox | ok |
| 07:16.45 | blufox | got it |
| 07:16.51 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2 forget 0.3 is a bad version ;) wait the next 0.4 for the day 14, install it, its a very lot better |
| 07:17.08 | Elive_user2 | Im honored to talk with you...your distro is tremendous |
| 07:17.18 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 07:17.18 | blufox | its released people :) |
| 07:17.20 | Thanatermesis | thanks :) |
| 07:17.26 | blufox | 0.4 |
| 07:17.45 | blufox | chekc it out heres the link http://elivecd.org |
| 07:18.03 | blufox | 0.4 is out and i m on my way dwonloading it |
| 07:18.04 | Elive_user2 | so no hope to get things moving in 03 |
| 07:18.18 | Thanatermesis | blufox yes... the "pre" version.. in any case im "final retouching" it for the better little details.. and i look very big upgrades from debian just this night, some changes needs maded for the official 0.4 version |
| 07:18.36 | Elive_user2 | that 04 is just prelaunch version right? |
| 07:18.36 | blufox | oh thats good |
| 07:18.53 | blufox | yes but stil not any known bugs :) |
| 07:19.03 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2 yes, a prelaunch version working very good... but im finishing to fix little things for the official release |
| 07:19.20 | blufox | try it mayb u ll in the process find a bug and help in improving it |
| 07:19.35 | Elive_user2 | ok...any way to get cd working in 03 for the time being? |
| 07:19.45 | blufox | mount it manually |
| 07:20.00 | Elive_user2 | I tried... |
| 07:20.01 | yawlright | glad to be of service thanatermesis |
| 07:20.11 | blufox | whats the error mesg ? |
| 07:20.13 | Thanatermesis | :) yawlright |
| 07:20.21 | Lightning_ThB | Tell us the output of fdisk -l |
| 07:20.28 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user your /dev/cdrom don't exit |
| 07:20.31 | Thanatermesis | exist* |
| 07:20.37 | blufox | i dont think fdisk -l will help with cdroms |
| 07:20.42 | Thanatermesis | just ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom |
| 07:20.50 | Thanatermesis | chown root:cdrom /dev/cdrom |
| 07:20.55 | Thanatermesis | adduser Elive_user2 cdrom |
| 07:21.00 | Thanatermesis | and i think to its good |
| 07:21.29 | blufox | Elive_user2 whats is the err mesg u get on mounting it manually ? |
| 07:22.09 | Elive_user2 | I tried mounting it manually via gui not cml |
| 07:22.30 | blufox | try cml its better in these cases |
| 07:22.43 | Elive_user2 | how? |
| 07:23.01 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2 you need to put this commands of i have show just before |
| 07:23.02 | blufox | try mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom |
| 07:23.29 | blufox | or mount /dev/hdb1 ( or whatever ur cdorm is ) /mnt/cdrom ( or any other mount point ) |
| 07:23.40 | Elive_user2 | ok Thana, I will do that first...then try other |
| 07:23.45 | blufox | Elive_user2 try whats Thanatermesis said |
| 07:24.15 | blufox | Thanatermesis i have a strange problem , can u help ? |
| 07:24.28 | Elive_user2 | The user `brian' is already a member of `cdrom' |
| 07:24.48 | Thanatermesis | yes blufox, ask |
| 07:25.15 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2 perfect, try now, if your /dev/hdc is your cdrom device, of course |
| 07:25.31 | Elive_user2 | ok hold |
| 07:25.34 | Elive_user2 | Im slow |
| 07:26.02 | blufox | i am a big fan of enlightenment ,so wanted it on my 2nd distro Fedora but somehow i think the source didnt compile , giving me an err about lib Imlib2 |
| 07:26.11 | blufox | though it is there in place |
| 07:26.18 | blufox | something wrong but what ? |
| 07:26.20 | blufox | :( |
| 07:26.32 | Thanatermesis | blufox imlib2 from packages of fedora ? |
| 07:26.47 | blufox | yes preinstalled on the fedora |
| 07:27.06 | Thanatermesis | i think to not is the same version and you need really the imlib2 from enlightenment cvs |
| 07:27.19 | blufox | ok i ll try that :) |
| 07:27.25 | blufox | thanks a lot Thanatermesis |
| 07:27.31 | Thanatermesis | welcome blufox :) |
| 07:27.55 | blufox | why cant be there a full distro based in enlightenment ? |
| 07:28.14 | blufox | i m waiting for one |
| 07:28.36 | blufox | like someday Fedora with enlightenment , it will be wonderful :) |
| 07:28.49 | Thanatermesis | Elive is a distro based just on enlightenment :) |
| 07:29.21 | blufox | yes it is but its a live CD plus it has a minimal set of packages and developers like me need a lot more i guess Thanatermesis :) |
| 07:30.18 | blufox | live CDs are good for use but for development u ought to need a full distro with kernel and other sources in place , isnt it? |
| 07:30.33 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | dosent elive have full debian etch repositories or am i mistaken? |
| 07:30.41 | Thanatermesis | nonono blufox.... Elive not is just a livecd... is really MORE a distro than a liveCD |
| 07:30.50 | Thanatermesis | has a lot of work on it for works in "distro mode" |
| 07:30.56 | Thanatermesis | more than 180 own packages for example |
| 07:30.59 | Lightning_ThB | blufox: I use it as my distro here ^^ |
| 07:31.37 | blufox | ok thats really motivating but can i do my normal kernel devlopment and hacking on elive distro Thanatermesis ? |
| 07:31.42 | Thanatermesis | the first 0.1 version of Elive IS just a liveCD, i don't have included a installer because the installarion is very ugly (based on knoppix), but this 0.3 and specially 0.4 versions are good to install |
| 07:31.58 | Lightning_ThB | Yup. |
| 07:32.20 | blufox | thats fantastic Thanatermesis :) thanks for the good work , keep it up :) |
| 07:32.37 | Thanatermesis | blufox i don't know any problem... in any case if you have a little of time, just try to install (0.4), and look if is good or not for you :) |
| 07:32.39 | Lightning_ThB | I'm intending of messing up with the kernel next week. |
| 07:32.52 | Lightning_ThB | ^^ |
| 07:33.02 | blufox | sure i m downloading it and will mail you if if i come across any bugs :) |
| 07:33.13 | blufox | :D |
| 07:33.14 | Thanatermesis | LinuxNIT-laptop- yes, it has the debian repositories enabled and working |
| 07:33.28 | Thanatermesis | good :) |
| 07:33.56 | blufox | one more question Thanatermesis just out of curiosity |
| 07:34.00 | Thanatermesis | ok.. time to the bed... i need to wake up on 2 1/2 hours... thanks all for report bugs and show me the problems for i fix it :) |
| 07:34.05 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 07:34.27 | GPLGeek | LOL run to bed Thanatermesis, you have no time! |
| 07:34.40 | Thanatermesis | hehe, its 8:30 AM GPLGeek |
| 07:34.50 | blufox | enlightenment is so fast and lite , dies it use xorg 7 now or older one ? |
| 07:35.00 | blufox | does i mean , sorry for mistake |
| 07:35.15 | Thanatermesis | i have used E on xfree perfectly |
| 07:35.32 | Lightning_ThB | I was scared with compiling after Gentoo... after compiling the kernel (took about 2 hours here), it compiled X in 8 hours... I have decided to migrate to elive when I realised that compiling gnome and everything it needs would take me 2 or 3 whole days... |
| 07:35.32 | blufox | oh thats good |
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| 07:35.47 | Thanatermesis | not really GPLGeek... i have worked a lot this night and im really tired now, i don't think to i need, hehe |
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| 07:36.31 | GPLGeek | Compiling takes forever on my intel machine but my amd64's in 32bit or 64bit do not take long |
| 07:36.37 | GPLGeek | I have installed gentoo in like 5 hours |
| 07:36.55 | GPLGeek | that's including configuring my fluxbox the way I want, and I am picky |
| 07:37.07 | GPLGeek | and all my games etc |
| 07:37.11 | Lightning_ThB | Thanatermesis: Sleep. If any trouble comes up, we'll try to solve it. Then you read the log and see what happened here. Now sleep! |
| 07:37.32 | Lightning_ThB | Lucky you... |
| 07:37.55 | Thanatermesis | hehe, yes, just launching some "night long processes" and im go ;) |
| 07:37.55 | blufox | good night Thanatermesis or rather i should say good morning Thanatermesis |
| 07:37.58 | Lightning_ThB | It would take me about 5 DAYS to do it... |
| 07:38.04 | blufox | lol |
| 07:38.07 | GPLGeek | what cpu? |
| 07:38.08 | blufox | :)) |
| 07:38.21 | GPLGeek | kernel is not that bad |
| 07:38.24 | GPLGeek | I have built many |
| 07:38.37 | Lightning_ThB | P3 733Mhz with 256Mb of RAM |
| 07:38.43 | Lightning_ThB | Kernel is ok |
| 07:38.46 | GPLGeek | and xbox? lol |
| 07:38.48 | Lightning_ThB | X is mean to compile... |
| 07:38.57 | GPLGeek | I bet on a p3 |
| 07:39.07 | GPLGeek | My xbox has those stats |
| 07:39.16 | GPLGeek | It runs debian |
| 07:39.23 | Lightning_ThB | T_T |
| 07:39.44 | Lightning_ThB | My pc sounds like an Xbox... |
| 07:39.57 | Lightning_ThB | With a crappy video card |
| 07:40.02 | GPLGeek | lol we had distcc set up once on 40 computers |
| 07:40.28 | GPLGeek | we had 40 amd64's compiling |
| 07:40.42 | GPLGeek | we also had a web branch for smaller files to compile |
| 07:40.52 | Lightning_ThB | O.o |
| 07:41.16 | Elive_user2 | It plays, but only if I start the player as root... |
| 07:41.39 | Thanatermesis | ok, finish... good night all |
| 07:41.46 | Elive_user2 | Thana... |
| 07:41.55 | Elive_user2 | ohhh |
| 07:41.56 | GPLGeek | dont bother him =) |
| 07:42.01 | GPLGeek | he needs 2 hours of sleep |
| 07:42.01 | Elive_user2 | ok |
| 07:42.05 | blufox | Elive_user2 what does it says with player runing as non root ? |
| 07:42.22 | Elive_user2 | wrong mrl or permissions |
| 07:42.31 | ThanaZzz | Elive_user2 chmod 777 /dev/cdrom |
| 07:42.34 | ThanaZzz | Elive_user2 chmod 777 /dev/hdc |
| 07:43.01 | Elive_user2 | thanks you |
| 07:43.06 | blufox | yes do whats ThanaZzz said |
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| 07:44.12 | gaatmx | hi! |
| 07:44.13 | Lightning_ThB | And I have to review a whole episode of Fate/Stay Night... I'll do it after sleeping... |
| 07:44.17 | Lightning_ThB | Hi |
| 07:44.39 | gaatmx | could not get elive to boot 0( |
| 07:44.49 | gaatmx | =( |
| 07:45.07 | gaatmx | i own an geforce4mx nvidia card.... some hint? |
| 07:45.07 | Lightning_ThB | Did you check your ISO's md5sum? |
| 07:45.11 | blufox | gaatmx, whats the error mesgs shown ? |
| 07:45.20 | gaatmx | Lightning_ThB.- yep |
| 07:45.46 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | did you burn the iso as image and not as a file? |
| 07:45.54 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | sorry i have to ask |
| 07:45.56 | Lightning_ThB | geforce issue... That's one thing I can't help (never seen a geforce4mx) |
| 07:46.03 | gaatmx | blufox.- it just stays there during boot: right after the soundcard detection in vervose |
| 07:46.15 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | oh nm |
| 07:46.27 | GPLGeek | not a graphics card problem I dont think |
| 07:47.06 | blufox | after sound card detection whats was the device elive last scanned ? |
| 07:47.22 | blufox | i mean was scannig when it stopped responding ? |
| 07:47.30 | Lightning_ThB | LinuxNIT-laptop-: Don't hide. I don't know it also... maybe something you say can be useful |
| 07:47.35 | yawlright | gaatmx make sure you burn the cd at 4x-8x cause that can be a problem if you burn it fast |
| 07:48.05 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | Lightning_ThB, well if his cd booted he burned it right |
| 07:48.27 | GPLGeek | maybe md5 the cd and see if it is the same md5 as the image |
| 07:48.42 | gaatmx | blufox.- well it gets all the way thru autoconfiguring devices and then displays Soundcard detected (alsa) autoconf and after that a blinking cursor |
| 07:48.53 | GPLGeek | md5 /dev/cdrom and /path/to/image |
| 07:48.55 | gaatmx | I will md5 the cd! |
| 07:49.05 | yawlright | i had problems booting when i burned it fast, burned it slow and it worked perfectly |
| 07:49.18 | gaatmx | yawlright.- ok will try that |
| 07:49.19 | GPLGeek | I burned mine at 52x |
| 07:49.24 | Lightning_ThB | I burned it at 48x and it worked fine |
| 07:49.24 | blufox | gaatmx, follow whats yawlright said |
| 07:49.30 | GPLGeek | are you using .3 or .4pre |
| 07:49.36 | gaatmx | .4pre |
| 07:49.47 | GPLGeek | tried .3? |
| 07:49.57 | gaatmx | GPLGeek.- yep--- the same |
| 07:49.59 | blufox | whats your system configuration ? |
| 07:50.23 | GPLGeek | maybe hanging on sound detection |
| 07:50.29 | GPLGeek | what chipsets do you have |
| 07:50.44 | Lightning_ThB | It seems like an GeForce issue. |
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| 07:53.10 | GPLGeek | I should stop using testing and unstable versions of debian, i'm just torturing myself lol |
| 07:53.24 | GPLGeek | one thing or another is wrong =) |
| 07:56.35 | Lightning_ThB | Dumb me! I was having issues with DHCP... now, wandering around EliveCP, I've found the network configurator ^^ |
| 07:58.08 | Lightning_ThB | Now the only thing I must fix here is my keyboard layout... there isn't the "us_intl with deadkeys" option around (and I suck at setting the keyboard) |
| 07:58.31 | blufox | bye everybody gtg |
| 07:58.34 | GPLGeek | can't you apt-in that stuff |
| 07:58.39 | blufox | see ya bye |
| 07:58.40 | GPLGeek | later blu |
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| 07:59.05 | Lightning_ThB | apt-in what? |
| 07:59.19 | GPLGeek | can't you apt-get the keyboard layout |
| 07:59.51 | Lightning_ThB | As I said... |
| 08:00.02 | Lightning_ThB | I suck about configuring keyboards... |
| 08:00.23 | Lightning_ThB | So I simply don't have a clue of what you mean |
| 08:00.36 | Lightning_ThB | ^^ |
| 08:03.56 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | Lightning_ThB, whats the problem? (dunno if i can help but ya never know ) |
| 08:04.18 | Lightning_ThB | My keyboard layout... |
| 08:05.08 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | what kind of keyboard do you have? |
| 08:05.13 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | normal? |
| 08:05.45 | Lightning_ThB | I use an International 101 keys standard, but for some special characters I use in portuguese, I must use the layout us_intl with deadkeys |
| 08:06.10 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | ohh |
| 08:06.36 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | in 0.4? |
| 08:06.53 | Lightning_ThB | And that option is not available at elive's keyboard options... and if there's no automatic way to do it, I just don't know what to do ^^ |
| 08:06.56 | Lightning_ThB | Yep |
| 08:07.23 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | do you have another version of linux installeD? |
| 08:07.31 | Lightning_ThB | Nope ^^ |
| 08:08.09 | Lightning_ThB | I always forget to copy the damn xorg.conf... |
| 08:08.18 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | :) |
| 08:08.34 | Lightning_ThB | Someday I'll fix it... |
| 08:09.00 | Lightning_ThB | I always manage to fix it somehow, but I never remember how I did it... |
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| 08:09.35 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | lookin at somethign |
| 08:10.00 | Lightning_ThB | If I set xorg.conf layout to us_intl it solves almost everything, but it misses "cedilha", a C with some frilly things beneath it... |
| 08:10.37 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | have you asked in #xorg? |
| 08:10.41 | Lightning_ThB | And only in Xchat... other programs have it... |
| 08:10.48 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | oh |
| 08:11.18 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | could it be a problem iwth xchat fonts ? |
| 08:11.19 | Lightning_ThB | I think this is the first channel of anything linux-related I've ever entered. |
| 08:11.55 | Lightning_ThB | Well... after sleeping, maybe I'll get the hang of it... |
| 08:12.08 | Lightning_ThB | In sleepy mode I can only do sh** |
| 08:12.31 | Lightning_ThB | LinuxNIT-laptop-: Where are you from? |
| 08:12.41 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | Oklahoma USA |
| 08:12.48 | Lightning_ThB | That's why |
| 08:12.53 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | :) |
| 08:12.55 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | yeap |
| 08:13.13 | Lightning_ThB | You don't have to worry about those characters anyway... |
| 08:13.20 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | exactly |
| 08:13.34 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | i just make every one talk to me in english :) |
| 08:13.35 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | lol |
| 08:13.52 | Lightning_ThB | I must have them to sub anime... as I translate and review the scripts, I have to use them... |
| 08:14.03 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | ah |
| 08:15.02 | Lightning_ThB | I can read and write english alright, but there are lots of people who can't... |
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| 08:15.24 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | yeah i know |
| 08:15.31 | Lightning_ThB | So I must write in portuguese most of the time anyway. |
| 08:15.43 | Jambon | well i seemed to have succesfully blown up my ubuntu install |
| 08:15.56 | Lightning_ThB | Good job! |
| 08:16.07 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | congrats |
| 08:16.09 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | jk |
| 08:16.15 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | sorry i dont like ubuntu |
| 08:16.20 | yawlright | yay more for elive |
| 08:16.22 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | did you lose info? |
| 08:16.24 | Lightning_ThB | Neither do I |
| 08:16.35 | Jambon | well nothing i can't get back |
| 08:16.39 | Jambon | i had it for about a week |
| 08:16.43 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | good\ |
| 08:16.54 | Jambon | so provided my ipod doesn't explode and elive can read it |
| 08:16.56 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | i hate it when people lose data |
| 08:16.58 | Jambon | i should be ok |
| 08:17.04 | Jambon | well i mainly killed x |
| 08:17.04 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | :) |
| 08:17.13 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | ah |
| 08:17.14 | Jambon | i tried to upgrade to dapper, and POOF! |
| 08:17.20 | Jambon | x wouldn't start |
| 08:17.25 | Jambon | and i have no clue what to do |
| 08:17.58 | Jambon | and since almost all my energy has been focused on getting e onto ubuntu, i figured, fuck it, we're doing Elive |
| 08:18.40 | Lightning_ThB | I like Ubuntu for it's an easy-to-use-out-of-the-box system, but it's damn too loaded! My pc can't hold it... |
| 08:18.40 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | and it sucks for installing other programs |
| 08:18.40 | Jambon | actually elive seems to be running faster off the cd right now that ubuntu was off the harddrive |
| 08:18.40 | Lightning_ThB | Elive is a great option. You won't regret it... |
| 08:18.40 | Jambon | ok |
| 08:18.42 | Jambon | if i could install it to the harddrive..... |
| 08:18.48 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | to much wierd dependancy stuff in ubuntu |
| 08:18.59 | Jambon | i got as far as looking at the partition table |
| 08:19.01 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | yes |
| 08:19.06 | Lightning_ThB | Jambon: Are you using 0.4Pre? |
| 08:19.08 | Jambon | then it says i can't delete the partition |
| 08:19.11 | Jambon | ???? |
| 08:19.11 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | yes |
| 08:19.18 | Jambon | no... |
| 08:19.22 | Jambon | 0.3 |
| 08:19.30 | Jambon | should i get 0.4? |
| 08:19.40 | Lightning_ThB | Download 0.4 ^^ It's way better |
| 08:19.49 | Jambon | uh, can i burn it from elive? |
| 08:20.11 | Jambon | because, as i said, the computer's dead |
| 08:20.24 | Lightning_ThB | If you have 2 cd drives, yes |
| 08:20.26 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | hmm do you have 2 cdroms? |
| 08:20.29 | Jambon | nope |
| 08:20.34 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | then no |
| 08:20.42 | Jambon | can you upgrade 0.3? |
| 08:20.55 | Jambon | i mean, it IS debian |
| 08:21.05 | Lightning_ThB | Jambon: Open xfe and unmount the HD partitions! |
| 08:21.32 | Jambon | hulabawhooo? |
| 08:21.48 | Lightning_ThB | Jambon: It's a whole distro, so lots of things have changed in the internals... |
| 08:22.18 | Lightning_ThB | Jambon: Open xfe (the x file explorer, must be somewhere in the menu) |
| 08:22.25 | Lightning_ThB | Then go to /mnt |
| 08:22.41 | Jambon | ok.... |
| 08:22.45 | Lightning_ThB | and unmount the HD partitions ^^ |
| 08:23.14 | Jambon | got it |
| 08:23.20 | Jambon | so then what? |
| 08:23.25 | Lightning_ThB | Elive 0.3 mounts it all when it boots, but you have to unmount them manually |
| 08:23.32 | Lightning_ThB | Now you can install ^^ |
| 08:23.37 | Jambon | ok |
| 08:23.48 | Jambon | then do i have to burn the .4cd after that? |
| 08:24.11 | Lightning_ThB | Well, you don't have to, but it's highly recommended |
| 08:25.23 | Jambon | ok |
| 08:25.25 | Jambon | fine |
| 08:25.26 | Lightning_ThB | 0.3 was released several months ago. 0.4 is brand-new (in fact, this is a Pre release. The official one will be on 14th) |
| 08:25.41 | Jambon | so it's not really going to change till then |
| 08:25.48 | Jambon | right? |
| 08:25.52 | Jambon | cuz if it is i'll just wait |
| 08:26.08 | Jambon | oh and ext3 the best? |
| 08:26.13 | Lightning_ThB | Just some minor things/bugs |
| 08:26.27 | Lightning_ThB | Yes |
| 08:26.36 | Jambon | which can be upgraded right? |
| 08:26.50 | Jambon | i mean, this isn't like .3 to .4pre |
| 08:27.07 | Jambon | because i just don't want to burn anther cd in 3 days |
| 08:27.16 | Lightning_ThB | I don't know ^^ But you can easily fix them... |
| 08:27.32 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | Lightning_ThB, in ,4 it rccomends usign reiserfs is ext3 ok in .3? |
| 08:27.49 | Jambon | too late |
| 08:27.52 | Jambon | it's ext3 |
| 08:28.03 | Jambon | it's not permanent though |
| 08:28.05 | Lightning_ThB | LinuxNIT-laptop-: 0.3 leaves you with ext3 and ext2 as the only choices |
| 08:28.11 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | oh |
| 08:28.13 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | lol |
| 08:28.15 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | nm |
| 08:28.16 | Jambon | no i had the whole lot |
| 08:28.21 | Lightning_ThB | But ReiserFS is WAY BETTER! |
| 08:28.22 | Jambon | ext 2 3 reiser |
| 08:28.52 | Lightning_ThB | During the instalation it will reformat it for you XD |
| 08:29.29 | Jambon | and.....now what |
| 08:29.36 | Jambon | i made an ext3 partition |
| 08:29.48 | Lightning_ThB | Install it like this ^^ |
| 08:30.11 | Jambon | by smiling at it???? |
| 08:30.39 | Lightning_ThB | What's happening now? |
| 08:31.15 | Jambon | ah there we go |
| 08:31.22 | Jambon | i didn't think quit was a good option |
| 08:31.29 | Jambon | but evidently it was |
| 08:31.40 | Lightning_ThB | Ah, that ^^ |
| 08:31.41 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | ok guys im out yall have fun |
| 08:31.55 | Jambon | oh we willl.....we will... |
| 08:31.55 | Lightning_ThB | LinuxNIT-laptop-: Good night |
| 08:32.09 | LinuxNIT-laptop- | night |
| 08:32.17 | Jambon | fun...now i get to watch a dancing penguin in sunglasses |
| 08:32.30 | Lightning_ThB | Yup ^^ |
| 08:33.33 | Lightning_ThB | Eat some snacks, drink some coffee, because instalation takes a little while... |
| 08:33.47 | Jambon | ok. so lemme get this straight: this IS a debian distro, but you can't upgrade from .3 to .4 using apt? |
| 08:34.03 | Lightning_ThB | And 0.4 takes a long time (about 1 and half hour) |
| 08:34.44 | Jambon | on what kind of computer? |
| 08:35.39 | Lightning_ThB | Jambon: This is a Debian-based distro, but changes happen other than program updates... like, the kernel has changed, now it has a control panal, lots of new modules... |
| 08:36.08 | Lightning_ThB | So you can't simply apt-get all that... it's a distro, not a program |
| 08:36.27 | Lightning_ThB | On this crappy P3 733Mhz ^^ |
| 08:36.35 | Jambon | shit that's what i have |
| 08:36.54 | Lightning_ThB | Well... small world, isn't it? |
| 08:36.56 | Jambon | but debian is capable of full distro upgrades isn't it? |
| 08:37.06 | Jambon | like sarge to etch to sid? |
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| 08:37.25 | Lightning_ThB | Not really. Only if the distro upgrade comes only to program updates. |
| 08:37.48 | Jambon | i thought it could upgrade the kernel? |
| 08:37.55 | Jambon | restart required of course |
| 08:38.09 | Lightning_ThB | In fact, only Ubuntu and Debian itself upgrades from apt-get |
| 08:38.30 | Jambon | wait..... |
| 08:38.47 | Jambon | so what DOES this upgrade itself from? |
| 08:38.57 | Jambon | i mean, wasn't that the POINT of debian? |
| 08:39.03 | Jambon | or at least apt |
| 08:40.14 | Lightning_ThB | Nope... apt was made to install/update/remove programs using .deb packages, but not to upgrade the whole system... |
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| 08:42.22 | Lightning_ThB | If you take 0.3 and update all the packages, Cinelerra, Jackd and other packages must be removed, about 300 Mb of new programs must be downloaded, you won't have the control panel working (because you have to install it, and all the other packages it uses)... |
| 08:43.53 | Lightning_ThB | And even Debian and Ubuntu, when they change versions, updating is not enough to see all the changes. Like, apt does not touch the menus. |
| 08:44.37 | Jambon | well doesn't apt have apt-get dist-upgrade or something? |
| 08:46.47 | Lightning_ThB | Never seen it. |
| 08:47.36 | Jambon | oh |
| 08:47.42 | Jambon | and the install just finished for me |
| 08:48.00 | Jambon | i'll be back |
| 08:48.05 | Lightning_ThB | Well... reboot nicely and come back after ^^ |
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| 09:08.25 | Jambon | you it's weird that the hard drive install didn't recognize my internet connection |
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| 09:10.58 | Jambon | back |
| 09:11.06 | Jambon | really gotta stop doing that |
| 09:11.43 | Jambon | anyone still here? |
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| 09:17.30 | Jambon | anyone? |
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| 09:36.10 | CGA | moo all =) |
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| 09:51.17 | Jambon | anyone up? |
| 09:52.00 | rookmoot | moi |
| 09:52.08 | rookmoot | mais pas op |
| 09:53.09 | CGA | moi aussie |
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| 09:53.24 | Jambon | you're not from australia |
| 09:53.30 | rookmoot | not |
| 09:53.37 | rookmoot | but Jambon is french |
| 09:53.41 | Jambon | ya |
| 09:53.43 | Jambon | i know |
| 09:53.48 | Jambon | i'm actually half mexican |
| 09:53.50 | rookmoot | i eat it |
| 09:53.57 | Jambon | which would be jamon |
| 09:54.06 | Jambon | but i got the nick in french class |
| 09:54.09 | Jambon | so it stuck |
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| 09:55.53 | rookmoot | :)) |
| 10:00.52 | Jambon | does firefox freeze for you guys when downloading a file? |
| 10:00.58 | Jambon | i'm in .3 |
| 10:02.02 | Jambon | yuo |
| 10:02.08 | Jambon | there we go again |
| 10:02.18 | Jambon | file ALMOST finishes, and firefox freezes |
| 10:03.25 | CGA | Jambon, that happens only in 0.3 and we don't know why |
| 10:03.53 | CGA | are you using it livecd? or you have installed it on HD? |
| 10:21.45 | Jambon | hd |
| 10:22.03 | Jambon | sorry, doin a bunch |
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| 10:31.46 | cornelius[cz] | hi |
| 10:33.00 | CGA | hi cornelius[cz] |
| 10:33.08 | cornelius[cz] | hi CGA |
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| 10:33.50 | Jambon | uh, has anyone been hauted by entangle? |
| 10:34.00 | Jambon | i keeps coming back even if i try to close it |
| 10:35.26 | Jambon | so if i switch desktops and revert back it comes up again, as if the window is half loaded |
| 10:36.37 | Jambon | whatever i'l figure it out later |
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| 10:44.26 | Jambon | anyone up? |
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| 10:47.53 | dererk | yes |
| 10:48.00 | dererk | ufff, waste of time |
| 10:49.56 | CGA | is dererk up? |
| 10:50.11 | dererk | dererk is down |
| 10:50.22 | dererk | Euro value is up |
| 10:50.33 | CGA | eh eh |
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| 11:12.00 | Elive_user2 | Hi, I'm new, never used xchat and I'm a bit confused |
| 11:12.31 | Elive_user2 | how do you change your nic name |
| 11:12.41 | CGA | Elive_user2, hi what is your problem? |
| 11:12.45 | CGA | oh ok |
| 11:12.48 | CGA | do this |
| 11:13.03 | CGA | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:13.30 | CGA | good |
| 11:14.21 | eightball | Okay, now do I have to get a pssword for this channel? |
| 11:14.30 | CGA | nope |
| 11:14.52 | eightball | alrighty then let's rock 'n roll! |
| 11:15.09 | CGA | eh eh |
| 11:15.18 | CGA | which version of elive are you using? |
| 11:15.25 | CGA | 0.3? 0.4-pre? |
| 11:15.50 | eightball | I'm using 0.4-pre |
| 11:15.58 | CGA | kewl |
| 11:16.19 | eightball | It's not like using gnoem or kde, which is what I'm used to |
| 11:17.04 | CGA | eh i see , but once you get familiar with a WM you are ok |
| 11:17.23 | eightball | how do you change the panel at the bottom of the screen? |
| 11:17.42 | CGA | you mean the one with icons in it? |
| 11:17.49 | CGA | to launch apps? |
| 11:18.02 | ee_lars | hello eightball & CGA |
| 11:18.07 | CGA | ciao ee_lars |
| 11:18.24 | eightball | yeah, for example adding thunderbird mail -- hi ee_lars! |
| 11:18.43 | ee_lars | eightball : launch entange |
| 11:18.57 | CGA | eightball, each WM has its on way to config things, the E17 way is really cool and simple |
| 11:19.09 | CGA | ee_lars, don't selle pple the easy way so easily |
| 11:19.22 | CGA | let them learn the ight way b4 :P |
| 11:19.24 | eightball | I'm running e16, but I suppose I could change |
| 11:19.25 | CGA | *right |
| 11:19.32 | CGA | oh then |
| 11:19.33 | ee_lars | lol CGA :) |
| 11:19.51 | CGA | i don't use E16 |
| 11:19.57 | CGA | and that bar is engage |
| 11:20.04 | CGA | dunno much about it |
| 11:20.15 | eightball | okay, tell you what: I |
| 11:20.44 | eightball | ll change to e17 and re-start, see you in five... toodles. |
| 11:20.48 | CGA | k |
| 11:22.39 | ee_lars | ok |
| 11:23.03 | ee_lars | CGA : do you know how to desactivate the Eterm transparency? |
| 11:23.09 | CGA | he fell in love with you ee_lars , he was waiting for you to say ok |
| 11:23.23 | CGA | i don't like and don't use eterm |
| 11:23.53 | ee_lars | :) |
| 11:23.59 | ee_lars | so which one do you use? |
| 11:24.04 | CGA | multi-aterm ATM |
| 11:24.19 | CGA | is nice , little and does what a term has to do |
| 11:24.30 | CGA | not the best around but hey... it's ok |
| 11:24.51 | ee_lars | ok i'm going to try it |
| 11:25.22 | IcedEarth | hello |
| 11:25.25 | CGA | i think i stick to it til the E17 terminal wil be ready (if ever) |
| 11:25.27 | IcedEarth | can I fix the terminal in 0.4pre |
| 11:25.50 | CGA | what you mean by fix it? |
| 11:25.55 | IcedEarth | well its all white |
| 11:26.01 | IcedEarth | white background white text |
| 11:26.10 | IcedEarth | its like a snowstorm where you can see your typing |
| 11:26.29 | CGA | arr that sucks, strange config for a term |
| 11:26.39 | IcedEarth | your telling me |
| 11:26.46 | IcedEarth | rxvt whtat does this mean? |
| 11:27.03 | CGA | is the name of a term |
| 11:27.12 | IcedEarth | ok |
| 11:27.13 | CGA | there are many around |
| 11:27.23 | IcedEarth | well thats the one |
| 11:27.39 | CGA | never used it sorry, no elive here neither |
| 11:27.48 | IcedEarth | ok |
| 11:28.49 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@toronto-HSE-ppp4185411.sympatico.ca) |
| 11:30.22 | IcedEarth | hello Elive_user |
| 11:30.43 | Elive_user | okay, I'm back, I had to make more coffee, the wife is up. |
| 11:30.51 | CGA | eh |
| 11:31.02 | CGA | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:31.12 | Elive_user | how come my nick didn't stick -- eightball? |
| 11:31.19 | IcedEarth | set it in X-Chat > Server LIst |
| 11:31.25 | CGA | you disconnected |
| 11:31.26 | IcedEarth | Then it will stay |
| 11:31.36 | CGA | and that too |
| 11:32.16 | CGA | anyway it will stay only for this session, next time you use trhe livecd you have to do it again |
| 11:32.20 | Elive_user | cool, I hadn't seen that, I'll change it now |
| 11:32.31 | IcedEarth | oh are you using elivecd ? |
| 11:32.32 | IcedEarth | ah |
| 11:32.52 | eightball | yep, v. 0.4-pre |
| 11:33.04 | IcedEarth | Are you going to instlal it on your hard drive |
| 11:33.06 | IcedEarth | I would recommend it |
| 11:33.14 | IcedEarth | The installation is very smooth |
| 11:33.29 | eightball | that was done yesterday |
| 11:33.31 | ee_lars | IcedHearth is right it's pretty cool |
| 11:33.46 | IcedEarth | It just 'falls out' of the box |
| 11:33.50 | IcedEarth | onto your harddisk |
| 11:33.57 | IcedEarth | no stress no fuss |
| 11:33.57 | eightball | 10-4 |
| 11:34.14 | IcedEarth | are you a seasoned Linux user? |
| 11:34.17 | IcedEarth | Or a newbie |
| 11:34.38 | eightball | in between |
| 11:35.15 | eightball | I'm a distro junkie, I can't seem to leave the same distro on for a long time. |
| 11:35.21 | IcedEarth | dont worry |
| 11:35.23 | IcedEarth | I was the same |
| 11:35.28 | IcedEarth | But I have found my home with Elive |
| 11:35.37 | IcedEarth | it is what I had always dreamed about |
| 11:35.45 | IcedEarth | now the dream is a reality |
| 11:35.52 | eightball | I really like elive, it's a little beauty |
| 11:35.55 | IcedEarth | and I am going to stay and help here and there |
| 11:36.05 | IcedEarth | Out of duty to the most superb Linux desktop |
| 11:36.09 | eightball | thank you |
| 11:36.10 | IcedEarth | in the whole wide world |
| 11:36.54 | eightball | how do ones configure the bar (bottom screen) to, say, dsiplay another choice |
| 11:36.55 | CGA | i'm a distro jkunkie tgoo but i discovered the world of emulation.... |
| 11:37.06 | IcedEarth | entangle |
| 11:37.09 | IcedEarth | used to work |
| 11:37.18 | IcedEarth | but you can always go into the .e directory |
| 11:37.22 | IcedEarth | have you discovered that yet |
| 11:37.50 | eightball | nope, I have strated to ferret the direcxtories |
| 11:38.19 | eightball | but I just started entangle and slapped my head, it's so easy. |
| 11:38.27 | ee_lars | :) |
| 11:38.36 | IcedEarth | yes, its a goodun for sure |
| 11:38.53 | IcedEarth | Eightball, please join the wiki community |
| 11:39.02 | IcedEarth | and tell of your first thoughts of elive |
| 11:39.07 | eightball | How do I do that? |
| 11:39.09 | IcedEarth | wiki.elivecd.org |
| 11:39.29 | IcedEarth | Do you live in Canada? |
| 11:39.33 | eightball | okay, I could write a little something |
| 11:39.39 | eightball | yes I live in Canada |
| 11:39.46 | IcedEarth | Cool |
| 11:39.55 | eightball | do you? |
| 11:39.58 | IcedEarth | No UK |
| 11:40.21 | eightball | Betcha ee_lars is from scandibavia, right? |
| 11:40.42 | IcedEarth | not sure |
| 11:40.53 | eightball | he can tell us |
| 11:41.05 | IcedEarth | you might guess that from his nick mayge |
| 11:41.14 | eightball | cga, what's the world of emulation? |
| 11:41.16 | IcedEarth | IcedEarth is from Mars |
| 11:41.25 | ee_lars | no eightball : ee_lars is french :) |
| 11:41.33 | ee_lars | i go eat later ppl |
| 11:41.37 | CGA | eightball, emulators and virtual machines, never heard of them? |
| 11:41.48 | eightball | get outa town, moi aussi! |
| 11:42.04 | IcedEarth | apt x fr en moi aussi |
| 11:42.15 | eightball | yes, I've heard of them, but I'vener used them |
| 11:42.35 | CGA | neither did i til a month ago |
| 11:42.44 | CGA | they are very good for distro trying |
| 11:42.47 | eightball | so what OSs can you emulate |
| 11:42.57 | IcedEarth | Have you used Wine |
| 11:43.10 | eightball | nope, I don't like windows |
| 11:43.14 | CGA | you just use distroin them as you would dot normally but you don't have to install onto HD |
| 11:43.31 | IcedEarth | I dunt like M$ either |
| 11:43.43 | CGA | eightball, well each VM or EMU has a list of whic sys it can support |
| 11:43.59 | CGA | they don't emulate Oses, they emulate hardware |
| 11:44.11 | eightball | is wine the only one that does Linux too |
| 11:44.25 | CGA | wine is not an emulator/VM |
| 11:44.51 | eightball | so which emu do you use to run linux distros without installing |
| 11:44.57 | CGA | is a "rewriting" of the windows APIs to let you run windows applications in linux |
| 11:45.06 | CGA | i'm using Qemu |
| 11:45.10 | CGA | but there are many |
| 11:45.21 | eightball | I've seen that, but didn't bother looking into it |
| 11:45.23 | IcedEarth | CGA what is Qemu? |
| 11:45.30 | IcedEarth | I have looked but dont understand what it is |
| 11:45.36 | eightball | yeah what's qemu |
| 11:45.43 | CGA | www.qmeu.org |
| 11:45.46 | IcedEarth | ta |
| 11:45.47 | CGA | sorry |
| 11:45.50 | CGA | www.qemu.org |
| 11:46.08 | eightball | okay, that's another place to visit |
| 11:46.24 | CGA | i suggest you build fromsource with the latest tarballs |
| 11:46.32 | CGA | and use the kqemu module |
| 11:46.36 | CGA | it fasts things |
| 11:46.36 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@p5090675E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:46.51 | CGA | anyway you have a showcase of qemu in elive |
| 11:46.55 | CGA | try |
| 11:46.57 | CGA | demo menu |
| 11:46.59 | IcedEarth | processor emulator |
| 11:47.04 | IcedEarth | ok |
| 11:47.28 | eightball | sounds pretty complicated |
| 11:47.35 | IcedEarth | it is i looked at it |
| 11:47.44 | IcedEarth | but never mind |
| 11:47.45 | CGA | nah |
| 11:47.47 | CGA | very simple |
| 11:47.51 | IcedEarth | I have other priorities |
| 11:47.52 | CGA | at least to use |
| 11:47.53 | IcedEarth | for Linux |
| 11:48.05 | IcedEarth | what do you actually use |
| 11:48.15 | IcedEarth | it for, I mean day to day for yourself example? |
| 11:48.48 | eightball | mainly browsing, e-mail, graphics and whatever piques my interest |
| 11:49.10 | eightball | I had never tried chatting, I kinda like it now. |
| 11:49.19 | IcedEarth | I hadnt used irc for years |
| 11:49.25 | IcedEarth | but when I got Elive |
| 11:49.31 | IcedEarth | I only use this channel |
| 11:49.54 | eightball | I don't even know what a channel is - lol |
| 11:50.10 | IcedEarth | you must do, your in one! |
| 11:50.41 | eightball | <LOL> okay, i see what you mean, i guess I knew but didn't know i knew |
| 11:50.55 | eightball | now i'm really confused |
| 11:51.01 | IcedEarth | why? |
| 11:51.19 | eightball | just kidding icedearth, just kidding |
| 11:51.29 | eightball | why do you call yourself icedearthed |
| 11:51.42 | CGA | because he is so cool :P |
| 11:51.53 | IcedEarth | nah, they are a heavy metal band |
| 11:52.09 | CGA | heavy metal sucks |
| 11:52.13 | CGA | :P |
| 11:52.17 | eightball | heavy metal, huh? Gimme Hendrix any day |
| 11:52.17 | IcedEarth | They collaborated with another band called Blind Guardian |
| 11:52.22 | IcedEarth | to produce a song called Excalibur |
| 11:52.28 | IcedEarth | which is pretty cool |
| 11:52.40 | IcedEarth | but I also like the name |
| 11:53.01 | eightball | I"m guessing you guys are young men |
| 11:53.05 | IcedEarth | not likey |
| 11:53.12 | IcedEarth | I am in my thirties |
| 11:53.18 | eightball | I'm turning 58 in april |
| 11:53.25 | IcedEarth | yikes |
| 11:53.26 | CGA | same here (30s) |
| 11:53.32 | IcedEarth | you are as old as my dad!! |
| 11:53.34 | eightball | I thought so |
| 11:53.44 | IcedEarth | CGA what do you do as a job? |
| 11:53.54 | CGA | not really good job |
| 11:54.03 | CGA | i sell fish in the open-air markets |
| 11:54.09 | eightball | I work for the local bus company in Ottawa, Ontario |
| 11:54.20 | eightball | it's called OC Transpo |
| 11:54.30 | IcedEarth | Nothing wrong with Market Trader |
| 11:54.35 | IcedEarth | my Dad was a mobile hawker |
| 11:54.39 | IcedEarth | same thing |
| 11:54.42 | *** join/#elive t0mas (n=Tomas@unaffiliated/t0mas) |
| 11:54.43 | t0mas | hi |
| 11:54.48 | IcedEarth | hello t0mas |
| 11:54.56 | t0mas | Just saw a screenshot of elive somewhere in a channel... |
| 11:54.58 | eightball | my teacher used to say, i'll n'y a pas de sot metier |
| 11:54.58 | IcedEarth | Bus company is cool, free rides eh |
| 11:55.01 | t0mas | http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/_images/elive-1.jpg |
| 11:55.06 | t0mas | that looks great! |
| 11:55.17 | IcedEarth | apt x fr en n'y a pas de sot metier |
| 11:55.20 | IcedEarth | yes |
| 11:55.33 | IcedEarth | which image |
| 11:55.35 | IcedEarth | t0mas |
| 11:55.42 | t0mas | the link I gave |
| 11:55.44 | IcedEarth | have you got Elivecd live or on hard disk |
| 11:55.59 | t0mas | I have nothing... someone showed that image... |
| 11:56.03 | t0mas | and #elive was in it |
| 11:56.04 | IcedEarth | thats E17 |
| 11:56.07 | IcedEarth | E16 even |
| 11:56.12 | IcedEarth | well please visit here |
| 11:56.14 | CGA | E16 |
| 11:56.14 | IcedEarth | www.elivecd.org |
| 11:56.15 | t0mas | so I tough "That rocks... I want to have it!" |
| 11:56.23 | IcedEarth | You can have it |
| 11:56.27 | IcedEarth | www.elivecd.org |
| 11:56.28 | eightball | it rocks for sure! |
| 11:56.32 | CGA | well t0mas wait for 0.4 to come out then |
| 11:56.33 | IcedEarth | Get the ISO and join us |
| 11:56.39 | CGA | nah |
| 11:56.46 | IcedEarth | CGA 0.4 pre is fine |
| 11:56.49 | IcedEarth | isn't it? |
| 11:56.52 | CGA | almost |
| 11:57.04 | eightball | 0.4 seesm okay to me, no glitches yet |
| 11:57.08 | IcedEarth | Are there changes being made between 0.4 pre and 0.4 |
| 11:57.12 | IcedEarth | it is okay |
| 11:57.18 | t0mas | well... I'm a developer in a lot of projects.. so I don't mind installing a pre release |
| 11:57.23 | IcedEarth | Beta was tested pretty well |
| 11:57.24 | CGA | IcedEarth, sure there will be |
| 11:57.25 | eightball | will we ba able to update? |
| 11:57.44 | IcedEarth | yes I re-installed mine easy |
| 11:57.49 | IcedEarth | I had 0.4 beta |
| 11:57.53 | IcedEarth | and updated to pre okay |
| 11:58.10 | eightball | you mean over 0.4 beta |
| 11:58.13 | IcedEarth | If you have a /home partition even easier!! |
| 11:58.23 | IcedEarth | yes, its no sweat |
| 11:58.31 | eshep | IcedEarth, there are not many changes from the pre to the final |
| 11:58.31 | IcedEarth | I have all my main work on seperate partitions |
| 11:58.34 | IcedEarth | so no worries upgrading |
| 11:58.34 | t0mas | what package manager / install mechanism does elive use? |
| 11:58.35 | eightball | I ner leave home without my /home partition ;-) |
| 11:58.52 | IcedEarth | It has a Graphical installer |
| 11:58.55 | eshep | the installer on the pre does have a bug though |
| 11:58.56 | IcedEarth | on Live CD |
| 11:59.02 | IcedEarth | written by Thantermesis |
| 11:59.08 | IcedEarth | Its good |
| 11:59.16 | IcedEarth | give yourself two partitions |
| 11:59.17 | CGA | t0mas, is morphix based (which is debain based) so apt |
| 11:59.19 | eightball | yeah but the bug is easily countered |
| 11:59.28 | IcedEarth | one for elive the other /home and your away |
| 11:59.32 | t0mas | CGA: great! I'm running debian sarge now |
| 11:59.40 | IcedEarth | well, familiar ground then |
| 11:59.46 | eightball | tOmas, are you saying I can upgrade with apt? |
| 11:59.55 | t0mas | I don't dare to say anything |
| 12:00.07 | t0mas | didn't know this project existed untill 5 minutes ago |
| 12:00.20 | IcedEarth | well those were 5 minutes that changed your life |
| 12:00.22 | IcedEarth | forever |
| 12:00.23 | t0mas | just saw a screenshot and decided I would love to give it a try :) |
| 12:00.23 | eshep | so if you want to install from the pre, apt-get update; apt-get install eliveinstaller |
| 12:00.28 | eightball | hwta about it cga, upgrade with apt okay? |
| 12:00.35 | IcedEarth | Join the next generation of Linux desktop |
| 12:00.39 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 12:00.44 | CGA | eightball, i guess so |
| 12:01.00 | CGA | i don't use elive except for testing or livecd mode of stables |
| 12:01.02 | t0mas | I assume it does better hardware detection than the official debian sarge now? |
| 12:01.12 | eightball | then no prob I'll be updating as soon as it comes out, I check that stuff regularly |
| 12:01.33 | CGA | t0mas, let's say it has a really cool and good hardware detection system |
| 12:01.51 | CGA | can't compare to others |
| 12:02.03 | CGA | since i don't know |
| 12:02.18 | eightball | I've yet to see anything that compares to e, it's awesome |
| 12:02.23 | *** join/#elive Begasus (n=Begasus@195.164-201-80.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 12:02.27 | t0mas | ok, I've ruined my laptop's debian setup anyway... |
| 12:02.30 | IcedEarth | its the best thing since sliced bread |
| 12:02.31 | t0mas | So I'll try it there |
| 12:02.38 | t0mas | hi Begasus |
| 12:02.38 | CGA | kewl |
| 12:02.41 | IcedEarth | what laptop have you got |
| 12:02.46 | Begasus | hi t0mas ;) |
| 12:02.51 | t0mas | (Begasus is the one showing me that screenshot) |
| 12:02.55 | t0mas | *was |
| 12:02.59 | CGA | kewl |
| 12:03.00 | eightball | opps, gotta go, be back soon! |
| 12:03.03 | IcedEarth | hello Begasus |
| 12:03.06 | CGA | see ya eightball |
| 12:03.07 | Begasus | hi peeps |
| 12:03.09 | IcedEarth | see you eightball |
| 12:03.24 | *** part/#elive eightball (n=Elive_us@toronto-HSE-ppp4185411.sympatico.ca) |
| 12:03.30 | Begasus | copying the iso over local network here to burn on a cd ... |
| 12:03.46 | Begasus | I try'd it in qemu before and was pleasantly suprised ;) |
| 12:03.46 | t0mas | mine is writing ;) |
| 12:03.52 | t0mas | lets see if it can handle my laptop |
| 12:03.54 | Begasus | your fast ;) |
| 12:04.02 | IcedEarth | what laptop |
| 12:04.04 | IcedEarth | ? |
| 12:04.09 | t0mas | Toshiba sattelite |
| 12:04.12 | t0mas | old one |
| 12:04.17 | CGA | should be |
| 12:04.21 | IcedEarth | ooh, i got one of them |
| 12:04.25 | IcedEarth | Satellite Pro |
| 12:04.29 | t0mas | old like Ati rage mobolity and celeron 900 or something |
| 12:04.33 | Begasus | the old ones are mostly the best !! ;) |
| 12:04.35 | t0mas | *mobility |
| 12:04.42 | IcedEarth | the screen resolution was fu*ked in that |
| 12:04.46 | IcedEarth | i have ATI rage mobility |
| 12:04.50 | IcedEarth | in my IBM thinkpad here |
| 12:04.55 | IcedEarth | and I use vesa |
| 12:04.59 | t0mas | 1024x786 is the max it can handle... |
| 12:05.08 | *** join/#elive Elive_user16 (n=Elive_us@ip503ceabf.speed.planet.nl) |
| 12:05.13 | IcedEarth | i have thinkpad A22m and everything is fine |
| 12:05.14 | t0mas | and that's irritating... because remote desktop to my workstation is at 1280x1024 |
| 12:05.20 | IcedEarth | except for infra red |
| 12:05.23 | Begasus | ati m64 in Lifebook |
| 12:05.36 | t0mas | well.. if it works... and I get all files moved I might try it on my dell laptop |
| 12:05.40 | t0mas | latitude D505 |
| 12:05.53 | IcedEarth | I look after D600 at my job |
| 12:05.55 | IcedEarth | they are okay |
| 12:06.08 | t0mas | ok, my D505 is my work laptop too... |
| 12:06.23 | t0mas | running LFS now... with *kuch*KDE*kuch* |
| 12:06.29 | Begasus | hehe |
| 12:06.35 | IcedEarth | KDE is to bloated |
| 12:06.38 | CGA | omfg you so masochist |
| 12:06.47 | CGA | *you are |
| 12:07.02 | Begasus | gnome on opensuse at the pc .. |
| 12:07.04 | t0mas | yeah, but I installed it 2 years ago... w/o any linux-desktop knowledge... |
| 12:07.09 | Begasus | laptop is mostly running ZETA here |
| 12:07.11 | t0mas | only did debian for servers back then |
| 12:07.26 | IcedEarth | whats ZETA? |
| 12:07.29 | t0mas | and someone pointed me at KDE... and it looked ok... |
| 12:07.35 | Begasus | succesor of BeOS |
| 12:07.41 | CGA | t0mas, well you'll be surprised of the new speed of you laptop then |
| 12:07.54 | t0mas | ghehe, it has run XFCE too... |
| 12:07.59 | CGA | same |
| 12:07.59 | t0mas | and indeed... KDE is slow... |
| 12:08.04 | IcedEarth | i came from XFE |
| 12:08.12 | IcedEarth | but this is sooooo fast ill never go back |
| 12:08.21 | IcedEarth | on old PIII with 384mb ram |
| 12:08.25 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 12:08.48 | t0mas | well... if it's worth it... I can replace my workstations Debian sarge + gnome too |
| 12:08.51 | Begasus | nice ... back to the basics ;) |
| 12:08.54 | t0mas | but that'll be more work... |
| 12:09.36 | IcedEarth | me IcedEarth has sore throat from chain smoking |
| 12:09.43 | IcedEarth | i just cant get that right |
| 12:09.57 | Begasus | 15 channels connected on freenode .. you guys are too much !! :P |
| 12:10.04 | IcedEarth | anyhoo t0mas and Begasus |
| 12:10.09 | IcedEarth | have you been to Wiki? |
| 12:10.15 | Begasus | not yet IcedEarth |
| 12:10.18 | IcedEarth | please do, if you haven't and join the community |
| 12:10.18 | Begasus | url? |
| 12:10.23 | IcedEarth | wiki.elivecd.org |
| 12:10.31 | IcedEarth | please join and let us know your experiences with Elive |
| 12:10.35 | Begasus | first see if we like what's comming ;) |
| 12:10.51 | Begasus | but first impression is cool |
| 12:10.54 | IcedEarth | oh yes |
| 12:10.55 | t0mas | Begasus... if you don't like it... it's opensource ;) |
| 12:10.59 | IcedEarth | you wont be disappointed |
| 12:11.00 | CGA | even bad experiences are goo d fior the wiki |
| 12:11.04 | Begasus | if only t0mas .. :S |
| 12:11.09 | IcedEarth | I transferred working from XFCE to Elive |
| 12:11.12 | IcedEarth | with no bumps at all |
| 12:11.16 | IcedEarth | for my University work |
| 12:11.18 | IcedEarth | no problem |
| 12:11.20 | Begasus | I can only code "Hello World" with a manual :P |
| 12:11.41 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 12:11.48 | t0mas | not a worthy #pca user :P |
| 12:11.51 | IcedEarth | really, like me than |
| 12:13.50 | t0mas | +ment |
| 12:14.13 | CGA | enlighten+ |
| 12:14.32 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 12:19.06 | Begasus | that was quick ;) |
| 12:19.18 | IcedEarth | aye |
| 12:20.31 | Begasus | streaming radio support in elive? |
| 12:20.54 | IcedEarth | yep |
| 12:21.02 | Begasus | nice :) |
| 12:21.46 | IcedEarth | Audio > radio stations |
| 12:22.34 | t0mas | omg, I have to much other things todo... but I'm kind of addicted to playing with linux... |
| 12:22.43 | t0mas | and now you all have added one more thing to play with :P |
| 12:22.45 | Begasus | how is it with kde or gnome app's? |
| 12:22.50 | IcedEarth | me to im supposed to be doing reading for Uni |
| 12:23.06 | Begasus | gaim, kopete ... |
| 12:23.10 | t0mas | IcedEarth: I'm supposed to write something this weekend... |
| 12:23.11 | Begasus | openoffice? |
| 12:23.23 | IcedEarth | yes OOo2 |
| 12:23.27 | IcedEarth | with mscorefonts |
| 12:23.28 | Begasus | great |
| 12:23.29 | t0mas | but yesterday I was "distracted" by a perl program that didn't do what I wanted it todo |
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| 12:23.46 | t0mas | then yesterday evening I had to go out with my girlfriend |
| 12:23.53 | IcedEarth | time just races by |
| 12:23.54 | t0mas | and now I have elive to look at |
| 12:23.59 | t0mas | so this isn't going to work :) |
| 12:24.02 | IcedEarth | yes, and girlfriends dont really |
| 12:24.12 | IcedEarth | understand the finer points of the Linux desktop |
| 12:24.24 | CGA_ | arrr |
| 12:24.26 | CGA_ | local (home) black-out |
| 12:24.34 | IcedEarth | black out? |
| 12:24.59 | t0mas | IcedEarth: no, last time she borrowed my laptop she was kind of frustrated that it doesn't have a start button ;) |
| 12:25.12 | IcedEarth | Yes, most people do |
| 12:25.15 | t0mas | my sister has linux on her pc btw... and she can work with it... |
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| 12:25.34 | IcedEarth | this is good, but most people just flail |
| 12:25.37 | t0mas | but that's because she learned linux here at home... and after that learned windows at school |
| 12:25.39 | IcedEarth | when it comes to Linux |
| 12:25.42 | IcedEarth | ah |
| 12:25.44 | IcedEarth | good shout |
| 12:25.47 | t0mas | not when you start with linux |
| 12:26.14 | t0mas | she has it the other way around... |
| 12:26.15 | IcedEarth | I am going to install 1 linux machine |
| 12:26.18 | IcedEarth | at the School I work in |
| 12:26.21 | IcedEarth | because its all Windows |
| 12:26.27 | IcedEarth | everywhere |
| 12:26.29 | IcedEarth | servers and all |
| 12:26.30 | t0mas | she hits esc :wq in windows notepad |
| 12:26.39 | IcedEarth | he he |
| 12:26.55 | t0mas | (I tend to do it the other way around... this ctrl + s in Vim) |
| 12:26.58 | Begasus | hehe |
| 12:26.59 | t0mas | *hit |
| 12:27.03 | t0mas | and that doesn't really work well |
| 12:27.22 | Begasus | walking through zeta is done with alt key and function keys ... |
| 12:27.35 | IcedEarth | urgh, sounds complicated |
| 12:27.36 | CGA | zeta? |
| 12:27.39 | Begasus | so you can imagen what happens when I hit the 4the desktop in windows :P |
| 12:27.51 | Begasus | no I can't do without it IcedEarth |
| 12:28.14 | IcedEarth | i supposed its what you get used to |
| 12:28.15 | t0mas | zeta is the BeOS fellower right? |
| 12:28.19 | Begasus | yep |
| 12:28.27 | t0mas | (begasus: opvolger in english?) |
| 12:28.29 | t0mas | successor? |
| 12:28.55 | CGA | should be |
| 12:29.17 | Begasus | [13:07] <Begasus> succesor of BeOS |
| 12:29.22 | t0mas | ghehe ok |
| 12:29.30 | Begasus | ;) |
| 12:29.46 | t0mas | it's double s ;) |
| 12:30.08 | Begasus | whel I never had any enlish classes ... so forgive me ... :P |
| 12:30.10 | Begasus | hehe |
| 12:30.31 | t0mas | I still have... and freenode is a good help with it ;) |
| 12:30.40 | Begasus | indeed ... |
| 12:30.49 | Begasus | even for your french/german ... |
| 12:31.12 | t0mas | ghehe, I can only read french and german... |
| 12:31.21 | t0mas | no use in even trying to speak it ;) |
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| 12:32.10 | IcedEarth | apt x en de use apt to speak German |
| 12:32.37 | IcedEarth | hello Elive_user |
| 12:32.57 | t0mas | nice one... |
| 12:33.22 | Elive_user | hello, I have seen some bugs (if I can call it like this) on Elive 0.4 |
| 12:33.30 | Elive_user | Is it here I report here ? |
| 12:33.43 | CGA | which version of 0.4? beta or pre? |
| 12:33.51 | Elive_user | Pre |
| 12:33.54 | CGA | nice |
| 12:34.01 | CGA | tell us |
| 12:34.02 | Elive_user | I have download it yesterday |
| 12:35.05 | CGA | tell us, if they are bugs report them to Thanaway too. && let's see them b4 |
| 12:35.28 | Elive_user | When I try to install it on my hard disk, It lanch GParted. I make 2 partitions and I close it. Then it launch the next window which ask me to choose a root partition. But there is no choice |
| 12:35.44 | CGA | mioght be installer bug |
| 12:35.51 | Elive_user | I try it many time, and after un moment, I see partitions ... and I can install it |
| 12:35.52 | CGA | we know is not ready yet |
| 12:35.59 | IcedEarth | mmm |
| 12:36.13 | IcedEarth | strange, i think it gave me a choice of which partiton |
| 12:36.15 | IcedEarth | to put elive on |
| 12:36.34 | IcedEarth | what filesystem for partition did you create them as? |
| 12:36.56 | Elive_user | Me too, but not the first time. I reboot machine, I destroy and rebuild partition several time ... |
| 12:37.10 | Elive_user | ext3 on both partition (/ and /home) |
| 12:37.17 | IcedEarth | mmm |
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| 12:37.30 | IcedEarth | I didnt have any problems |
| 12:37.40 | Stampho | hmm |
| 12:37.40 | CGA | i didn't try mysekf so i can't tell |
| 12:37.42 | Stampho | hi all |
| 12:37.48 | IcedEarth | hello Stampho |
| 12:37.50 | CGA | hi Stampho |
| 12:37.56 | CGA | gg to eat |
| 12:38.00 | CGA | see you later |
| 12:38.05 | IcedEarth | bye |
| 12:38.17 | Elive_user | I don't know if it is the solution, but one time, I stop Gparted before it finish to be open, and then I have the next installer window with the right partition choice* |
| 12:38.44 | Elive_user | hi |
| 12:38.45 | IcedEarth | mmm |
| 12:38.55 | IcedEarth | When Thantermesis is here |
| 12:39.02 | IcedEarth | maybe he could understand better |
| 12:39.08 | Elive_user | ok |
| 12:39.14 | Elive_user | I will email him |
| 12:39.20 | IcedEarth | yes, this is an idea |
| 12:39.23 | IcedEarth | as he wrote it |
| 12:39.28 | IcedEarth | so would understand better |
| 12:39.37 | Elive_user | He is french isn't it ? |
| 12:39.49 | IcedEarth | no |
| 12:39.54 | IcedEarth | Belgium |
| 12:40.03 | IcedEarth | spanish is his language |
| 12:40.14 | t0mas | speaking only french? or dutch and french? |
| 12:40.23 | Elive_user | AH ok, but he speak french, like me. Is will be more easy to explain my problem :) |
| 12:40.30 | IcedEarth | ok |
| 12:40.36 | Elive_user | ah oups |
| 12:40.41 | Elive_user | spanish !, ok |
| 12:40.59 | IcedEarth | no i think he is speaking spanish best |
| 12:41.12 | Elive_user | ok |
| 12:41.12 | t0mas | IcedEarth: do you know where in Belgium he lived? north or south? |
| 12:41.21 | IcedEarth | I dont know |
| 12:41.35 | t0mas | do you know if he speaks dutch? |
| 12:41.39 | IcedEarth | no |
| 12:41.55 | t0mas | don't know or he doesn't? :) |
| 12:42.03 | IcedEarth | I know he changes my english to spanish |
| 12:42.06 | IcedEarth | with apt |
| 12:42.12 | t0mas | ah ok |
| 12:42.13 | t0mas | intresting |
| 12:42.21 | IcedEarth | apt x en es like this |
| 12:42.38 | t0mas | apt x en fr Does apt speak french too? |
| 12:42.50 | IcedEarth | apt x en de and German |
| 12:43.00 | t0mas | apt x en du And Dutch? (not?) |
| 12:43.56 | IcedEarth | doesnt look like it |
| 12:44.16 | IcedEarth | apt hello |
| 12:44.16 | apt | que tal, icedearth |
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| 12:44.31 | IcedEarth | apt help languages |
| 12:44.41 | Begasus | re |
| 12:44.57 | IcedEarth | apt languages |
| 12:44.59 | apt | please speak english when in #debian so everyone can understand you. If you want to use another language, join #debian-<countrycode> |
| 12:46.23 | Elive_user | time to me to go |
| 12:46.25 | Elive_user | bye |
| 12:46.28 | t0mas | bye |
| 12:46.49 | IcedEarth | bye |
| 12:47.06 | t0mas | Begasus: http://tweakers.net/nieuws/41137 <-- LOL |
| 12:47.13 | IcedEarth | whats this? |
| 12:47.33 | Begasus | rofl |
| 12:47.40 | t0mas | Tanslated: Microsofts anispyare software (beta version) thinks Norton is virus. |
| 12:47.52 | IcedEarth | no suprise |
| 12:48.00 | IcedEarth | do you know what VISTA stands for? |
| 12:48.13 | t0mas | "It reports Norton can steal passwords and advices to remove the offending program." |
| 12:48.53 | t0mas | "If you follow all Microsoft instruction, you will ruine your Norton setup and make it impossible to reinstall it w/o manually editing the registry" |
| 12:49.05 | t0mas | how funny... |
| 12:49.11 | Begasus | they are doing it again ... |
| 12:49.19 | Begasus | lol |
| 12:49.31 | IcedEarth | its all a load of rubbish |
| 12:49.59 | t0mas | what does VISTA stand for? |
| 12:50.20 | IcedEarth | Viruses Infections Spyware Trojans Adware |
| 12:50.22 | IcedEarth | he he |
| 12:50.36 | t0mas | all collected together on 1 high priced cd |
| 12:50.41 | Begasus | all the things gates likes the most |
| 12:50.53 | IcedEarth | yes always a good one |
| 12:50.59 | IcedEarth | remember if for VISTA launch this year |
| 12:51.27 | t0mas | yeah, and for the first 10 customers whining like "I want the new windows right now! I con't work with old versions!" |
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| 12:51.48 | mchasard | hi |
| 12:51.50 | IcedEarth | I dont think many people will take it up |
| 12:51.56 | IcedEarth | XP is too ingrained now |
| 12:51.59 | IcedEarth | hello mchasard |
| 12:52.16 | t0mas | I know lots of people who want the newest... always... |
| 12:52.28 | IcedEarth | ah |
| 12:52.31 | IcedEarth | well |
| 12:52.31 | t0mas | essentially they are paying beta testers for Microsoft |
| 12:52.46 | mchasard | which newest ? talk about ie7b2 ? |
| 12:52.52 | mchasard | perhaps ... |
| 12:52.52 | IcedEarth | ifyou are MSDN member you can get it |
| 12:52.53 | t0mas | sure |
| 12:52.56 | t0mas | and windows Vista beta |
| 12:53.03 | mchasard | hum ok ... |
| 12:53.13 | t0mas | they want everything on the release date... |
| 12:53.19 | mchasard | i have a too old configuration to get vista |
| 12:53.35 | IcedEarth | yes we were just discussing what VISTA stands for |
| 12:53.35 | t0mas | which is stupid... because MS will just sell you a beta... and fix the bugs with the first service pack |
| 12:54.00 | IcedEarth | aye |
| 12:54.11 | IcedEarth | look at xp sp2 over 400 changes to OS |
| 12:54.43 | t0mas | yeah... and still it's not safe to use |
| 12:55.08 | IcedEarth | well, safe as long as not on internet |
| 12:55.09 | IcedEarth | he he |
| 12:55.10 | t0mas | Windows 2000 (the most stable and secure windows release?) still has trouble after 4 service packs |
| 12:55.22 | Begasus | eek!!! |
| 12:55.27 | Begasus | no usb mouse support?? |
| 12:55.29 | t0mas | remote exploit after remote exploit... |
| 12:55.50 | IcedEarth | no usb mouse support for what? |
| 12:55.56 | Begasus | Elive |
| 12:56.01 | Begasus | just started the live cd |
| 12:56.06 | Begasus | and can't use the mouse .. |
| 12:56.10 | IcedEarth | no i have USB optical mouse |
| 12:56.11 | IcedEarth | works fine |
| 12:56.12 | Begasus | hm wait it's an ps2 |
| 12:56.17 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 12:56.18 | Begasus | ;) |
| 12:56.19 | IcedEarth | ah |
| 12:56.22 | t0mas | X.org? |
| 12:56.38 | t0mas | because then the device setting might be a little but wrong? |
| 12:57.27 | Begasus | optical one ... |
| 12:57.32 | Begasus | but even then ... |
| 12:57.36 | t0mas | that shouldn't matter |
| 12:57.41 | IcedEarth | true |
| 12:57.44 | IcedEarth | i was just showing off |
| 12:57.51 | Begasus | :P |
| 12:58.02 | IcedEarth | :S |
| 12:58.13 | Begasus | this doesn't help me .. |
| 12:58.25 | mchasard | the new nvidia driver works display not entirely my screen .. but now the prompt is well display when i et out enghlithment contrary to the old nvidia driver which display the entirely screen but has some bug with the prompt at the exit of enlightment |
| 12:58.31 | IcedEarth | true, have you got a usb mouse to try? |
| 12:58.31 | Begasus | and the usb mouse for the laptop is to short (cable) |
| 12:58.42 | IcedEarth | try pad on laptop |
| 12:58.47 | t0mas | hm... I'm looking for a ps/2 mouse |
| 12:58.48 | Begasus | screen looks great too (radeon 9600) |
| 12:58.51 | t0mas | just to check if it works here |
| 12:58.54 | IcedEarth | great |
| 12:58.59 | Begasus | I'm using the live cd on the pc |
| 12:59.05 | t0mas | 0.4 pre? |
| 12:59.06 | t0mas | of 0.3 |
| 12:59.09 | t0mas | *or |
| 12:59.13 | mchasard | 0.4 tes me too |
| 12:59.15 | t0mas | (of = dutch or) |
| 12:59.16 | Begasus | 0.4 |
| 12:59.24 | t0mas | ah, I downloaded the 0.3 release |
| 12:59.27 | t0mas | 0.4 is downloading... |
| 12:59.59 | IcedEarth | mchasard have you only just found this out |
| 13:00.04 | IcedEarth | is it a bug |
| 13:00.21 | t0mas | time to scream at iptables... and edit the config |
| 13:00.28 | Begasus | a yellowTAB? :P |
| 13:00.51 | Begasus | thank god for usb extented cable ... |
| 13:01.24 | IcedEarth | does your mouse worknow? |
| 13:01.34 | Begasus | yeah ... with usb |
| 13:01.38 | IcedEarth | great |
| 13:01.50 | IcedEarth | I dont have any ps2 mouse anymore |
| 13:02.08 | Begasus | if it's not broken ... ;) |
| 13:02.12 | mchasard | out ? what did you say ? icedearth ? |
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| 13:02.26 | Elive_user36 | plop |
| 13:02.27 | IcedEarth | Is your screen not displaying properly? |
| 13:02.47 | Elive_user36 | yep |
| 13:03.15 | mchasard | i would like that in the future elive add a tool to save/restore config on a usb key |
| 13:03.29 | IcedEarth | hello Elive_user36 |
| 13:03.37 | Begasus_Elive | lo |
| 13:03.40 | Begasus_Elive | hehe |
| 13:03.45 | IcedEarth | he he |
| 13:03.55 | IcedEarth | You are multiplying |
| 13:03.59 | mchasard | euh about my screen ...its properly but it miss just on the left corner |
| 13:04.12 | Begasus_Elive | by the way ... elive uses also Alt-F keys to switch desktops ;) |
| 13:04.16 | IcedEarth | A line on the left, a black bar? |
| 13:04.56 | IcedEarth | Alt F no work on mine |
| 13:05.00 | mchasard | its black bar |
| 13:05.01 | mchasard | yes |
| 13:05.19 | IcedEarth | I had this on my Satellite laptop |
| 13:05.24 | mchasard | it seems that the screen is move on the right |
| 13:05.30 | IcedEarth | which has Nvidia grapihcs card |
| 13:05.40 | IcedEarth | and resolution was rubbish |
| 13:05.45 | mchasard | but using the old driver all is fine |
| 13:05.51 | IcedEarth | mmm |
| 13:06.10 | mchasard | but i have a trouble display at prompt when i exit engjhlightment |
| 13:06.25 | mchasard | i have tnt nvidia card |
| 13:06.33 | IcedEarth | Report as bug to Thantermesis |
| 13:06.33 | mchasard | and my display resolution is 1024/768 |
| 13:06.43 | mchasard | i told him already |
| 13:06.47 | mchasard | yesterday |
| 13:06.49 | IcedEarth | I should try 0.4 pre on my Satellite |
| 13:06.49 | IcedEarth | ok |
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| 13:07.18 | t0mas | I'm downloading that one |
| 13:07.26 | t0mas | but the torrent was a little slow :) |
| 13:07.29 | t0mas | fixed now |
| 13:07.40 | IcedEarth | great:) |
| 13:07.48 | Begasus | elive pannel iss looking nice |
| 13:08.08 | mchasard | whichone do you use e16 or e17 ? |
| 13:08.15 | Begasus | e17 |
| 13:08.18 | mchasard | yes i saw it ... |
| 13:08.25 | IcedEarth | mmmm nice |
| 13:08.39 | Begasus | what is the root pswd used in there btw? |
| 13:08.59 | IcedEarth | elive |
| 13:09.15 | mchasard | brb |
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| 13:09.20 | Begasus_Elive | figures ... |
| 13:09.52 | t0mas | IcedEarth: maybe that should be an installer step... |
| 13:10.02 | t0mas | "chose root password" |
| 13:10.03 | t0mas | like debian does |
| 13:10.08 | IcedEarth | it does |
| 13:10.24 | IcedEarth | it asks you to choose a root password when you install on harddrive |
| 13:10.24 | Begasus | not an option on a live cd ... :P |
| 13:10.26 | IcedEarth | and new user |
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| 13:10.29 | IcedEarth | no |
| 13:10.30 | IcedEarth | well |
| 13:10.35 | t0mas | ok, let me rephrase... |
| 13:10.40 | IcedEarth | can you expect this on live version? |
| 13:10.47 | t0mas | Maybe that should be a question when you start the live cd |
| 13:10.50 | Begasus | this one is defenatly going on the harddrive!! |
| 13:10.54 | IcedEarth | ah |
| 13:11.06 | IcedEarth | yes, but i dont know any other live cds that offer this |
| 13:11.08 | Begasus | no .. they mostly use a standard root pswd on live cd's |
| 13:11.21 | Begasus | just wasn't thinking further ;) |
| 13:11.24 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 13:11.30 | mchasard | i find elive 0.4 pre stable ...is there some bugs found ? |
| 13:11.32 | t0mas | "Change the world, but stay close to the others" |
| 13:11.38 | Begasus | not yet here mchasard |
| 13:11.57 | mchasard | hum so perhaps the release soon ? |
| 13:12.22 | Begasus | running it for like 5 min's on a live cd ... |
| 13:12.34 | Begasus | have to yet go bug hunting ;) |
| 13:13.01 | Begasus | well one bug .. I can't get my ps2 mouse to run :P |
| 13:13.27 | IcedEarth | all valid :) |
| 13:13.30 | mchasard | hi hi right and also my atari ste emulation hi hi ;-) |
| 13:14.39 | mchasard | it was the paradise ...in the past hi hi |
| 13:14.52 | Begasus | hehe |
| 13:15.00 | mchasard | for the musician |
| 13:15.16 | mchasard | but now ...not the same |
| 13:15.25 | mchasard | the world is changing so quickly |
| 13:15.29 | IcedEarth | yes prodigys first album done on Atari ST and cubase with Akai sampler |
| 13:16.08 | mchasard | yes i remember its was the top ... ;-) |
| 13:16.24 | mchasard | cubase or logic |
| 13:17.08 | mchasard | i see that theres like a little "nostalgie" |
| 13:17.42 | mchasard | are you musician too ? |
| 13:17.45 | IcedEarth | who? |
| 13:17.46 | IcedEarth | me |
| 13:17.47 | IcedEarth | no |
| 13:17.54 | IcedEarth | I used to dabble years ago |
| 13:17.57 | mchasard | yes ...for me yes |
| 13:18.16 | t0mas | mchasard: are you from the Netherlands? |
| 13:18.45 | mchasard | no from france ... theres some linux distro refering to musical specially |
| 13:18.50 | t0mas | ah ok |
| 13:18.51 | t0mas | <mchasard> i see that theres like a little "nostalgie" |
| 13:18.58 | t0mas | 'nostalgie" is a dutch word too |
| 13:19.04 | t0mas | and araik not a valid English word :) |
| 13:19.09 | mchasard | uhm its french too |
| 13:19.12 | t0mas | *afaik |
| 13:19.16 | t0mas | yeah, I figured |
| 13:19.18 | IcedEarth | ? |
| 13:19.34 | mchasard | i know ... how do you translate in english ? |
| 13:19.47 | mchasard | nostalgie |
| 13:19.55 | t0mas | no idea |
| 13:19.58 | IcedEarth | apt x fr en nostalgie |
| 13:20.03 | mchasard | hum ok let me search |
| 13:20.09 | mchasard | yes perhaps |
| 13:20.13 | t0mas | that sounds right to me :) |
| 13:20.13 | IcedEarth | its nostalgia |
| 13:20.17 | mchasard | ok |
| 13:20.18 | mchasard | thtanks |
| 13:20.25 | t0mas | nostalgic is English |
| 13:20.27 | mchasard | its not so far from nostalgie hi hi |
| 13:20.30 | t0mas | for "Nostalgisch" in dutch |
| 13:20.34 | IcedEarth | nearly the same |
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| 13:20.40 | mchasard | yeah !!! |
| 13:20.40 | IcedEarth | we all share similarities |
| 13:21.02 | IcedEarth | Us Europeans are all mixed race |
| 13:21.05 | Begasus | http://streams.lazernet.be:2710/listen.pls |
| 13:21.07 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 13:21.12 | Begasus | radio nostalgie ;) |
| 13:21.16 | mchasard | we all are brothers ...in this little world |
| 13:21.18 | mchasard | hi hi |
| 13:21.19 | _tsa | http://radio.netx.se ;) |
| 13:21.22 | _tsa | Worlds best radio ;) |
| 13:21.28 | IcedEarth | is it? |
| 13:21.30 | mchasard | hi hi |
| 13:21.31 | IcedEarth | what music? |
| 13:21.32 | t0mas | http://download.freshmeat.net/screenshots/24353.jpg |
| 13:21.32 | _tsa | :D |
| 13:21.37 | _tsa | Its my radio |
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| 13:21.44 | _tsa | pale_horse :D |
| 13:21.47 | mchasard | let me see |
| 13:21.54 | IcedEarth | hello pale_horse |
| 13:21.59 | pale_horse | _tsa |
| 13:22.04 | pale_horse | good morning all |
| 13:22.34 | mchasard | its elive desktop ? |
| 13:22.37 | mchasard | thomas |
| 13:22.40 | IcedEarth | looks like MAC to me |
| 13:22.49 | mchasard | yes cool ... |
| 13:23.09 | t0mas | mchasard: Tomas w/o the H ;) |
| 13:23.20 | mchasard | sorry |
| 13:23.23 | t0mas | and it's Enlightenment's aqua theme |
| 13:23.30 | t0mas | (no problem, everybody does it) |
| 13:23.38 | IcedEarth | ? |
| 13:23.56 | mchasard | is it possible to get this theme as a live cd use ? |
| 13:24.09 | IcedEarth | http://wiki.elivecd.org/en/82 |
| 13:24.13 | IcedEarth | this is my desktop |
| 13:24.29 | t0mas | winamp :D |
| 13:24.33 | t0mas | the only windows app I really miss |
| 13:24.46 | IcedEarth | it works fine in Linux with Wine |
| 13:24.54 | mchasard | aeonflux cool |
| 13:24.55 | mchasard | hi hi |
| 13:25.37 | mchasard | but theres so much other native linux soft to do that instead winamp |
| 13:26.10 | t0mas | yeah... KDE's amarok is nice... |
| 13:26.13 | mchasard | its a wonderful skin for winamp |
| 13:26.17 | t0mas | (sorry for the KDE reference again :)) |
| 13:26.48 | mchasard | no blems |
| 13:26.51 | IcedEarth | true, it was only a test for Winamp in 0.4 beta |
| 13:26.54 | IcedEarth | for Thantermesis |
| 13:27.00 | IcedEarth | who wanted to see Wine working |
| 13:27.06 | IcedEarth | I use XMMS |
| 13:27.26 | mchasard | ok is wine incuded in elive 0.4 cd ? |
| 13:27.32 | IcedEarth | yes |
| 13:27.35 | mchasard | i don't thing |
| 13:27.44 | IcedEarth | yes Wine is installed |
| 13:27.47 | mchasard | ah its included ? |
| 13:27.54 | mchasard | cool i have to try it |
| 13:28.20 | mchasard | just the time to reboot elive 0.4 and see for myself |
| 13:28.21 | mchasard | brb |
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| 13:36.23 | Wallalai | hello there :) |
| 13:36.39 | CGA | IcedEarth, have you seen the Aeon movie yet? |
| 13:36.49 | CGA | hi Wallalai |
| 13:37.01 | IcedEarth | not out till friday |
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| 13:37.08 | CGA | true |
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| 13:37.15 | CGA | what yuo think about it? |
| 13:37.29 | IcedEarth | looks okay |
| 13:37.30 | Wallalai | nice LiveCD this one :) |
| 13:37.30 | CGA | i surely prefer original cartoons |
| 13:37.38 | IcedEarth | never seen them, but know of them |
| 13:37.45 | CGA | awesome |
| 13:37.49 | CGA | i mean the cartoons |
| 13:37.50 | Wallalai | I'm an Archer but i love this liveCD |
| 13:38.04 | mchasard | hi again |
| 13:38.12 | IcedEarth | hi |
| 13:38.15 | Begasus | dragging windows is a pain ... :S |
| 13:38.24 | Arnald | hmmm, I must be really stupid, but I can't get the installer to work |
| 13:38.27 | Wallalai | cos I'm stuck with no internet acces in my distro due to an udev update |
| 13:38.29 | CGA | show us your skills Mr Wallalai Tell |
| 13:38.48 | Arnald | it just brings up a parted window - none of the "simple questions" I was promised ;) |
| 13:38.50 | IcedEarth | Arnald whats the problem? |
| 13:39.09 | Wallalai | hehe CGA, I've no special skills :) |
| 13:39.21 | CGA | i was j/k on the archer thing :P |
| 13:39.21 | Arnald | IcedEarth: well I just get a perted window, with no indication of what to do next |
| 13:39.34 | IcedEarth | once you close the gparted window |
| 13:39.39 | IcedEarth | the next step will happen |
| 13:39.57 | CGA | that should happen automagically IMHO |
| 13:39.57 | Arnald | IcedEarth: I thought that might be the case, but it's a bit freaky for a new user |
| 13:40.14 | IcedEarth | yes, a touch unusual |
| 13:40.25 | Arnald | it was quite freaky for me, and I'm an old hand at this ;) |
| 13:40.41 | IcedEarth | how much of an old hand |
| 13:40.53 | Arnald | about 11 years all told ;) |
| 13:40.58 | IcedEarth | blimey |
| 13:41.02 | Arnald | I've tried lots of installers |
| 13:41.04 | IcedEarth | old school |
| 13:41.06 | IcedEarth | linux |
| 13:41.09 | Arnald | someone showed me linux in 1992 |
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| 13:41.17 | Arnald | but I only had an atari ST |
| 13:41.19 | IcedEarth | cor my first was in 1999 |
| 13:41.22 | IcedEarth | and it was hard to install |
| 13:41.26 | IcedEarth | and gethardware to wokr |
| 13:41.30 | Arnald | and I eventually got it going on that! |
| 13:41.33 | pale_horse | Arnold you may be as old as me but I doubt it |
| 13:41.33 | mchasard | ok i just use wine ;;;; |
| 13:41.35 | IcedEarth | especially dial up modems |
| 13:41.44 | Arnald | pale_horse: 43 just gone ;) |
| 13:41.54 | pale_horse | puppy !! :) |
| 13:41.59 | Arnald | OK ;) |
| 13:41.59 | pale_horse | 55 just gone |
| 13:42.13 | IcedEarth | we have a 58 year old guy in here earlier |
| 13:42.37 | pale_horse | first linux was 20+ floppy set of slackware |
| 13:43.32 | Arnald | anyone remember the "watchtower" filesystem? |
| 13:43.44 | Begasus | selected 1280x1024 as a resolution for the live cd ... but I'm pretty sure it's 1024x768 ... |
| 13:43.46 | Arnald | that was for atari and amiga |
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| 13:45.26 | Arnald | IcedEarth: OK I think this is a serious issue, but you might disagree ;) |
| 13:45.51 | IcedEarth | what the installer? |
| 13:45.58 | IcedEarth | or are you going to tell me something else |
| 13:46.03 | Arnald | I close the parted widow, and select OK on the swap dialog, and it says I haven't created a swap partition |
| 13:46.11 | IcedEarth | just ignore it |
| 13:46.15 | Arnald | I am using a blank vmware disk |
| 13:46.24 | IcedEarth | aargh wmware? |
| 13:46.28 | IcedEarth | unknown to me?? |
| 13:46.30 | Arnald | IcedEarth: I am in "idiot" mode here remember ;) |
| 13:46.33 | Begasus | ok ... install is running ... |
| 13:46.45 | IcedEarth | so you are running wmware |
| 13:46.45 | Arnald | IcedEarth: It's just a blank unformatted disk |
| 13:46.49 | Arnald | yep |
| 13:46.54 | IcedEarth | you need to partition it |
| 13:46.57 | IcedEarth | before hand with gparted |
| 13:47.00 | IcedEarth | which you have done? |
| 13:47.06 | Arnald | I think it would apply to any blank disk |
| 13:47.15 | Arnald | IcedEarth: no, not yet |
| 13:47.38 | IcedEarth | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:48.01 | IcedEarth | no I think you have to at least partition some space |
| 13:48.14 | IcedEarth | for Elive, /, /home, and swap |
| 13:48.22 | IcedEarth | it will reformat the filesystem |
| 13:48.26 | IcedEarth | on chosen partition |
| 13:48.39 | IcedEarth | but still has to identify a parittion to write to |
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| 13:49.41 | Arnald | IcedEarth: hmmm, I am an fdisk person, I can't make a swap in parted |
| 13:49.56 | IcedEarth | just make a partition |
| 13:50.05 | IcedEarth | and then when ask to make a swap point it at that |
| 13:50.09 | IcedEarth | just use ext2 or something |
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| 13:50.13 | Arnald | OK found it, sorry ;) |
| 13:50.13 | IcedEarth | little partition |
| 13:50.34 | Arnald | IcedEarth: no, there is an option, I just didn't see it at first |
| 13:50.39 | IcedEarth | ok |
| 13:50.46 | IcedEarth | couldnt remember if there was or not |
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| 13:51.33 | Elive_user63 | re |
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| 13:51.49 | Arnald | wow, I like parted |
| 13:52.03 | IcedEarth | its good stuff |
| 13:52.04 | Arnald | hope I don't forget how to use fdisk though |
| 13:52.05 | IcedEarth | works well |
| 13:52.17 | IcedEarth | whats fdisk |
| 13:52.18 | IcedEarth | tee hee |
| 13:53.11 | Begasus | how do I know when the installer is done? |
| 13:53.54 | Arnald | IcedEarth: fdisk is the solution to the chicken-and-egg problem, that's what ;) |
| 13:54.03 | IcedEarth | ah |
| 13:54.09 | IcedEarth | its the microsoft thing |
| 13:54.11 | IcedEarth | isnt it |
| 13:54.15 | IcedEarth | DOS tang |
| 13:54.20 | pale_horse | nope |
| 13:54.28 | Arnald | that's why I never used parted before, by the time you get to use it, you don't need it ;) |
| 13:54.43 | pale_horse | I prefer cfdisk |
| 13:54.57 | IcedEarth | i see i never need to use these things, as I use images GHOST and stuff at work |
| 13:55.07 | Arnald | pale_horse: I always found those navigation menus at the bottom confusing |
| 13:55.09 | IcedEarth | so I have lost the ability to do all that old school stuff |
| 13:55.32 | Arnald | fdisk is pure and simple |
| 13:55.43 | pale_horse | well then again I like pico / nano also :P |
| 13:55.51 | IcedEarth | this is old school stuff |
| 13:55.58 | IcedEarth | i use VI only when I have to |
| 13:56.03 | IcedEarth | e.g x server crash |
| 13:56.13 | IcedEarth | I use SciTE |
| 13:56.22 | Arnald | hmm, progress bar is not doing anything ATM, but 100% CPU usage |
| 13:56.37 | IcedEarth | hold your nerve |
| 13:56.49 | felix | s/use/uses/ |
| 13:56.59 | pale_horse | scite is a good x-editor |
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| 13:57.43 | Arnald | IcedEarth: sorry, bailed out before I read your message ;) |
| 13:57.52 | IcedEarth | try again |
| 13:59.18 | Arnald | IcedEarth: can't get it to work now |
| 13:59.30 | IcedEarth | mmm |
| 13:59.33 | IcedEarth | reboot maybe |
| 13:59.41 | IcedEarth | start again |
| 13:59.50 | IcedEarth | are you on 0.4 pre? |
| 13:59.54 | Arnald | I close down parted, and there's a dialogue with root partition, I hit OK and it says I haven't selected a partition |
| 14:00.02 | Arnald | IcedEarth: 0.4 pre, yes |
| 14:00.10 | IcedEarth | quit all |
| 14:00.13 | Arnald | I don't get the chance to select a partition |
| 14:00.15 | IcedEarth | and start the installer again |
| 14:00.18 | Arnald | I did |
| 14:00.23 | IcedEarth | okay |
| 14:00.29 | IcedEarth | take me through step by step |
| 14:02.33 | Arnald | OK, I need to start again because I got yet another failure mode that time ;) |
| 14:02.49 | IcedEarth | ok |
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| 14:03.05 | Arnald | 1. click on installer icon 0- welcome dialogue appears |
| 14:03.19 | IcedEarth | k |
| 14:03.33 | Arnald | hit OK, parted window opens |
| 14:03.52 | IcedEarth | so how many partitions? |
| 14:04.20 | Arnald | the two I created earlier, 512 MB swap, then up to 4G with ext3 |
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| 14:04.28 | IcedEarth | k |
| 14:04.31 | IcedEarth | close the window |
| 14:04.39 | Arnald | although It fails if there are none, as I said earlier |
| 14:05.26 | Arnald | window closed, "select items from the list" dialogue |
| 14:05.34 | IcedEarth | ok |
| 14:05.37 | IcedEarth | what items are these? |
| 14:05.56 | Arnald | one item; ROOT partition |
| 14:05.56 | Lightning_ThB | The root HD |
| 14:06.07 | IcedEarth | ok |
| 14:06.10 | IcedEarth | next |
| 14:06.31 | Arnald | hold on, it takes a few seconds to flip screens you know ;) |
| 14:06.37 | IcedEarth | k |
| 14:06.57 | IcedEarth | I only ever installed twice, worked first time both times :) |
| 14:07.00 | IcedEarth | suppose I am lucky |
| 14:07.24 | Arnald | well I can click on "ROOT partition", and I get a drop-down type thing with just that one item |
| 14:07.31 | IcedEarth | yep |
| 14:07.37 | Arnald | but I should click OK here I suppose? |
| 14:07.39 | IcedEarth | yep |
| 14:08.18 | Arnald | "You have not chosen any partition, please run the installer once more" |
| 14:08.25 | IcedEarth | mmm# |
| 14:08.27 | Arnald | that's the problem |
| 14:08.35 | IcedEarth | okay ill get my other laptop out |
| 14:08.41 | IcedEarth | and actually go through it with you |
| 14:08.46 | IcedEarth | with the same configuration |
| 14:08.52 | Arnald | that's why I wondered whether I needed to select at the "ROOT partition" stage |
| 14:09.55 | IcedEarth | ok |
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| 14:09.59 | IcedEarth | im just firing up my other machine |
| 14:10.04 | IcedEarth | and will go through step by step |
| 14:10.10 | Arnald | OK let me know what you want me to do |
| 14:10.21 | Begasus | now the indication bar is moving ... |
| 14:11.01 | IcedEarth | just hang fire for a bit |
| 14:11.19 | Arnald | IcedEarth: I looked in advanced before I closed the installer an found some parted errors |
| 14:11.20 | Begasus | it didn't show in E17 |
| 14:11.27 | IcedEarth | ah |
| 14:11.36 | IcedEarth | what were they |
| 14:11.37 | Begasus | even the tooltips for the icons in iBar did not show up |
| 14:11.48 | IcedEarth | have you done a fscheck on your drive |
| 14:11.51 | IcedEarth | i had to once |
| 14:12.04 | Begasus | to many partitions :P |
| 14:12.10 | Arnald | apparently /dev/hdc has been opened read-only |
| 14:12.18 | IcedEarth | mmm |
| 14:12.46 | Arnald | I don't think that is something I have control over |
| 14:13.47 | Arnald | IcedEarth: another point, I am running the installer from within e17, is this an issue? |
| 14:13.52 | IcedEarth | ive not heard of this before |
| 14:13.57 | IcedEarth | no i installed both times from e17 |
| 14:13.58 | IcedEarth | fine |
| 14:14.31 | Arnald | should I start again from scratch, or do you want to look at what I have ATM? |
| 14:15.19 | IcedEarth | i would reboot |
| 14:15.22 | IcedEarth | and have one more go |
| 14:15.28 | IcedEarth | whilst i set my other laptop up |
| 14:15.32 | IcedEarth | its boot elivecd now |
| 14:15.46 | Arnald | OK I'll start again with a blank disk |
| 14:16.03 | IcedEarth | can you fun fscheck as well |
| 14:16.03 | IcedEarth | on it |
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| 14:17.46 | Arnald | IcedEarth: at what point? |
| 14:18.02 | Arnald | never heard of fscheck |
| 14:18.07 | IcedEarth | hold on |
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| 14:18.10 | Arnald | e2fsck? |
| 14:18.30 | IcedEarth | yes |
| 14:18.32 | IcedEarth | fsck |
| 14:18.44 | IcedEarth | umount and just run through |
| 14:18.51 | IcedEarth | i had to on each partition as I had problems |
| 14:18.54 | IcedEarth | mounting and unmounting |
| 14:18.58 | IcedEarth | maybe nothing |
| 14:19.00 | IcedEarth | but doesnt hurt |
| 14:19.05 | Arnald | so I need to run parted, make partitions, fsck, then run the installer? |
| 14:19.15 | IcedEarth | yep |
| 14:19.20 | Arnald | OK |
| 14:19.22 | IcedEarth | run gparted seperate before installer |
| 14:19.43 | IcedEarth | boy the resolutions is f**cked up on my Satellite |
| 14:19.51 | Arnald | <booting elive> |
| 14:21.17 | IcedEarth | k |
| 14:21.28 | Arnald | gack, what's the root password? |
| 14:21.30 | Begasus | still installing ... |
| 14:21.34 | Arnald | I need it to run parted |
| 14:21.34 | Begasus | elive Arnald |
| 14:21.35 | Begasus | ;) |
| 14:21.40 | Arnald | ok ta |
| 14:21.41 | IcedEarth | elive |
| 14:24.13 | Arnald | heh, no fdisk - good job I know what the disk is called ;) |
| 14:25.17 | Arnald | OK I need root shell |
| 14:25.19 | Begasus | rebooting |
| 14:25.27 | dererk | Arnald, really the partation manager is called Gparted |
| 14:25.48 | IcedEarth | tis the gnome GUI for parted? |
| 14:25.50 | Arnald | dererk: I ran it from the menu |
| 14:26.01 | IcedEarth | ok i have run the first part of installer on my other laptop |
| 14:26.05 | IcedEarth | I have 3 partitions |
| 14:26.13 | IcedEarth | so now I am ready to go |
| 14:26.20 | IcedEarth | Arnald, how are you fixed? |
| 14:26.29 | Arnald | OK, disk is clean |
| 14:26.33 | IcedEarth | so run installer |
| 14:26.37 | dererk | Arnald, to install elive, it's recommended to update the package "eliveinstaller" and then run the installer |
| 14:26.38 | IcedEarth | create your three partitions |
| 14:26.38 | Arnald | just about to run installer |
| 14:26.48 | IcedEarth | Arnald |
| 14:26.51 | IcedEarth | listen to derek |
| 14:26.57 | IcedEarth | he is more expereinced than me |
| 14:27.11 | IcedEarth | but I have never had any trouble with installer straight from live cd |
| 14:27.13 | Arnald | OK I was using instructions from website |
| 14:27.25 | IcedEarth | Use the force |
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| 14:27.28 | IcedEarth | I always do |
| 14:27.31 | Arnald | actually the installer warns against updating anything! |
| 14:27.32 | IcedEarth | and it usually works ;) |
| 14:27.48 | IcedEarth | okay |
| 14:27.53 | IcedEarth | so partition your drive |
| 14:27.56 | IcedEarth | done it yet? |
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| 14:28.18 | dererk | Arnald, It warns NOT to install while you are running the installer |
| 14:28.29 | Arnald | IcedEarth: I partitioined it before checking it - fsck only works on parittions! |
| 14:29.29 | Arnald | eliveinstaller is already the newest version |
| 14:29.33 | Arnald | apparently |
| 14:29.39 | IcedEarth | okay |
| 14:29.44 | IcedEarth | have you partitioned your hard drive? |
| 14:30.10 | Arnald | dererk: no, it says not to do it BEFORE the installation - I just read it |
| 14:30.25 | Arnald | IcedEarth: yes, just running installer now |
| 14:30.33 | dererk | lol |
| 14:30.39 | dererk | you understood wrong |
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| 14:31.06 | Arnald | dererk: I read it correctly , someonw wrote it wrong! |
| 14:31.18 | dererk | Arnald, pass me the link please |
| 14:31.23 | Arnald | what link |
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| 14:31.40 | Arnald | I can't cut'n 'paste it |
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| 14:31.58 | dererk | The installer showed that to you? |
| 14:32.03 | Arnald | yes |
| 14:32.15 | Arnald | that's what I was quoting from |
| 14:32.27 | Arnald | it's the first dialogue that you see |
| 14:32.44 | Arnald | something about unionfs being unstable |
| 14:33.04 | Arnald | anyway, closing parted window |
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| 14:33.10 | dererk | gonna check that |
| 14:33.35 | Arnald | you're welcome ;) |
| 14:33.41 | dererk | but, as I said, you should run "apt-get update && apt-get install eliveinstaller" before installing |
| 14:33.46 | Arnald | I ain't lying you know! |
| 14:33.52 | Arnald | well I did |
| 14:34.13 | Arnald | OK I didn't update, sorry |
| 14:34.55 | Arnald | doing it now, since installation failed again |
| 14:35.09 | dererk | hope not fail this time |
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| 14:35.18 | Arnald | OK won't be ling |
| 14:35.20 | dererk | (I mean, with the new installer) |
| 14:35.23 | Arnald | long even |
| 14:35.45 | IcedEarth | have you had another go? |
| 14:36.06 | Arnald | OK, just updated, trying again now |
| 14:36.09 | IcedEarth | im at the bit |
| 14:36.17 | IcedEarth | where its asking about swap partition |
| 14:36.44 | Arnald | OK hold on, BTW it's still saying not to update first! |
| 14:36.55 | IcedEarth | dont bother |
| 14:37.14 | Arnald | OK, now I actually get a partition to select! |
| 14:37.15 | dererk | Arnald, run "apt-cache policy eliveinstaller" on root terminal |
| 14:37.29 | Arnald | I didn't get one before! |
| 14:38.05 | IcedEarth | well i never it failed on me as well |
| 14:38.06 | dererk | Oh, I should inform that Arnald, thanks for the quote |
| 14:38.13 | IcedEarth | how did i install it on this laptop |
| 14:38.15 | IcedEarth | ?? |
| 14:38.15 | Arnald | OK, now installing! |
| 14:38.16 | IcedEarth | so weird |
| 14:38.27 | dererk | IcedEarth, It's known as a bug and fixed indeed |
| 14:38.38 | Arnald | IcedEarth: that's why I was confused about the partition selection screen |
| 14:38.39 | dererk | Arnald, Great! |
| 14:38.47 | IcedEarth | go 4 it |
| 14:38.52 | IcedEarth | youll have it on there soon!! |
| 14:38.56 | IcedEarth | ITs wort the wait |
| 14:38.57 | Arnald | OK thanks all! |
| 14:39.05 | IcedEarth | bELIVE me!! |
| 14:39.15 | dererk | hehehe IcedEarth |
| 14:39.16 | Arnald | That's why I got it early |
| 14:39.19 | dererk | good |
| 14:39.45 | Arnald | I seeded about three downloads, so there must be quite a few looking at this |
| 14:40.14 | IcedEarth | Elive is the next generation of Linux Desktop |
| 14:40.20 | IcedEarth | no argument |
| 14:40.29 | IcedEarth | In this place lies the pioneers of the new dawn |
| 14:40.37 | IcedEarth | and dont forget to join the wiki |
| 14:40.40 | IcedEarth | wiki.elivecd.org |
| 14:40.41 | dererk | WARNING: The AVAILABLE TORRENT FILE is JUST a Pre FINAL release, just a few BUGS that are fixed by now |
| 14:40.59 | dererk | if you FIND something strange, PLEASE REPORT IT HERE |
| 14:41.04 | pale_horse | I am seeding at work - no idea how many hits till I get there |
| 14:41.49 | IcedEarth | ok my friend is here im off |
| 14:41.51 | IcedEarth | laters |
| 14:42.00 | dererk | IcedEarth, have fan |
| 14:45.32 | eightball | hi guy i'm back |
| 14:46.00 | eightball | how do you get some good documentation one17 |
| 14:46.34 | dererk | eightball, get-e.org should be your point |
| 14:47.21 | eightball | have they got docs that will explain how to use entangle for example |
| 14:48.25 | dererk | eightball, entangle is not e17 |
| 14:48.27 | Lightning_ThB | Experience it a bit and you'll find out how to use anything ^^ |
| 14:48.41 | dererk | But I think it has doc about entangle there too |
| 14:48.42 | Lightning_ThB | He means all the efl tools... |
| 14:48.57 | eightball | I've been trying it out and I haven't found a way to add an app |
| 14:49.23 | dererk | Lightning_ThB, it's not posible, 'cause the most part of the "tools", as you said, or modules are not developed by the E team |
| 14:49.42 | IcedEarth | i am away |
| 14:49.45 | IcedEarth | but try eap editor |
| 14:49.52 | IcedEarth | or I have a bash script to create them |
| 14:49.55 | t0mas | hm |
| 14:50.00 | t0mas | it doesn't run in vmware does it? |
| 14:50.03 | t0mas | (v0.4 PRE) |
| 14:50.06 | Lightning_ThB | I know that ^^ |
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| 14:50.25 | Lightning_ThB | t0mas: Never tried... |
| 14:51.15 | dererk | t0mas, it should if you do process correclty |
| 14:51.21 | t0mas | "PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 4 of device bla bla" |
| 14:52.11 | t0mas | 0000:00:07.01 |
| 14:52.15 | t0mas | is the device |
| 14:52.28 | dererk | eightball, as IcedEarth said, you should try eap editor |
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| 14:52.53 | dererk | t0mas, you are running the cd over which system? |
| 14:52.56 | eightball | I'm trying it now but I have no idea what it does |
| 14:53.24 | t0mas | dererk: live cd 0.4 pre on vmware on windows 2000 |
| 14:53.32 | t0mas | wanted to show it to someone |
| 14:53.45 | t0mas | erm next error... |
| 14:53.50 | dererk | dunno then, but certenly it should |
| 14:54.05 | dererk | try to enable all options available |
| 14:54.12 | t0mas | "/etc/init.d/rc line 101: 3244 Seg.fault $debug "$@" |
| 14:54.38 | t0mas | "INIT: PANIC: segmentation violation at 0x804a33c (code)" |
| 14:54.40 | dererk | Ummm, did you copy the iso to a RW cd? |
| 14:55.01 | dererk | t0mas |
| 14:55.38 | dererk | t0mas, did you copy the iso to a RW cd? |
| 14:56.27 | t0mas | noe |
| 14:56.30 | t0mas | just used the iso |
| 14:56.50 | t0mas | (vmware can mount iso's as cd-drives) |
| 14:57.17 | dererk | it must be reading corruptly it |
| 14:57.35 | dererk | could you check md5 in that failure system? |
| 14:57.55 | t0mas | jup, I can |
| 14:58.01 | dererk | do it please |
| 14:58.02 | t0mas | oh wait... windows :X |
| 14:58.24 | dererk | Yes, I was refering to windoze of course |
| 14:58.34 | t0mas | I can :) |
| 14:58.39 | t0mas | scp it to linux |
| 14:58.45 | t0mas | b4bc15ea56514ccfd82b0120f65c6750 *elive_0.4.iso |
| 14:59.47 | t0mas | but I don't have a reference checksum... |
| 15:00.23 | dererk | seems good |
| 15:00.57 | t0mas | weird |
| 15:01.10 | dererk | How is Vmware hardware configured (ide support, ram, net, sound) |
| 15:01.13 | dererk | Try that |
| 15:01.25 | t0mas | ide disk... |
| 15:01.29 | t0mas | 256 mb ram |
| 15:01.34 | dererk | I don't really used vmware too much, but remember some issues I had with it |
| 15:01.34 | t0mas | bridged net |
| 15:01.49 | t0mas | I'll create a scsi version... with 512 mb ram |
| 15:02.02 | dererk | well, the iso integrity is correct, you may burn it to a cd if you can |
| 15:02.31 | t0mas | yeah, I can... I'll have to do that to test it on my laptop anyway |
| 15:03.00 | dererk | It worth the cd |
| 15:03.07 | dererk | and much more really |
| 15:03.15 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 15:03.15 | dererk | like 2 cds, but not 3 |
| 15:03.16 | pale_horse | a a vmx would be a nice addition, I'll seed it |
| 15:03.17 | dererk | hohohoh |
| 15:03.28 | t0mas | I have 0.3 on a cd |
| 15:03.45 | dererk | pale_horse, hugh? |
| 15:03.56 | t0mas | the splash screen (or I assume it should be that) of 0.4 (not the one with the progressbar, but before that) is corrupted here... |
| 15:04.08 | t0mas | in vmware |
| 15:04.33 | dererk | it isn't emulating the iso correctly I think |
| 15:04.48 | t0mas | hm... never had problems with that... |
| 15:05.54 | pale_horse | vmx = vmware machine that plays in vmplayer |
| 15:06.30 | dererk | pale_horse, Yeah, It would be, but it's not free |
| 15:06.39 | pale_horse | vmplayer is |
| 15:07.01 | dererk | should take a look at it then |
| 15:07.30 | t0mas | yeah, it's nice to show people things... like elive |
| 15:07.33 | dererk | most of the nicest softare has Licence compatibility issues |
| 15:07.33 | pale_horse | at work I have a chopped down ubuntu vmx that I run |
| 15:08.07 | pale_horse | dereck vmplayer is a free, supported community |
| 15:08.07 | dererk | Like Cedega, for example |
| 15:08.25 | dererk | pale_horse, as I said, I'm gonna take a look at it |
| 15:08.31 | pale_horse | :) |
| 15:08.33 | dererk | thanks |
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| 15:13.59 | dererk | quidam-, y a quien le importa? |
| 15:14.02 | dererk | jojojo |
| 15:14.18 | quidam- | dererk, calla que igual lo vas a visitar |
| 15:14.20 | quidam- | xDDDDD |
| 15:14.25 | dererk | jojó |
| 15:14.31 | t0mas | "This disconnect was sponsored by Planet Internet" |
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| 15:15.01 | dererk | t0mas, WTF |
| 15:15.17 | t0mas | my DSL connection was down for 10 seconds or something |
| 15:15.40 | dererk | That happens 'cause you're using windoze |
| 15:15.45 | dererk | apt, windows |
| 15:15.47 | apt | hmm... windows is a 32 bit hack on a 16 bit operating system, originally designed for an 8 bit CPU, with a 4 bit system bus, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition... or the World of Warcraft bootloader, or the most important collection of bugs |
| 15:16.18 | t0mas | dererk: I'm not using windows myself |
| 15:16.24 | t0mas | and my connection is to a nice debian router |
| 15:16.29 | dererk | just kidding dude |
| 15:16.41 | t0mas | [root@bruce root]# uptime |
| 15:16.41 | t0mas | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.53 | Begasus | hmm installing is not that easy it seems ... :S |
| 15:16.55 | t0mas | that's my router |
| 15:17.07 | Begasus | nice t0mas ;) |
| 15:17.10 | dererk | Begasus, why not? |
| 15:17.20 | t0mas | Begasus: that's the same uptime as the Activenet irc servers ;) |
| 15:17.28 | Begasus | whel the indicator is not responding at some point it seems .. |
| 15:17.33 | t0mas | they all got down in the same power loss a long time ago |
| 15:18.00 | Begasus | or the grub loader from my opensuse installtion does not see the partition I installed elive in ... |
| 15:18.44 | dererk | Begasus, if you don't say grub in where the main Boot loader is set |
| 15:18.47 | dererk | it never will |
| 15:18.57 | dererk | It isn't a Elive issue |
| 15:19.07 | Begasus | it wil be installed in root |
| 15:19.31 | Begasus | so if I point to the partition it should load the grub bootloader from elive then |
| 15:19.33 | dererk | It will be installer wherever you said |
| 15:19.51 | Begasus | I told it to install in / before |
| 15:20.14 | dererk | Did you choose the First option of the list? |
| 15:20.22 | Begasus | nope second |
| 15:20.23 | dererk | when it was asked about boot loader |
| 15:20.34 | dererk | there was you problem |
| 15:20.53 | dererk | s/problem/mistake/ |
| 15:21.10 | Begasus | I don't need to reinstall the grub bootloader to be installed in mbr |
| 15:21.18 | dererk | But, anyway, you can just add the like manually on Suse OS |
| 15:21.24 | Begasus | I already have a grub bootloader there |
| 15:21.27 | dererk | It's very simple to do If you want |
| 15:21.30 | Begasus | I did ... with yast |
| 15:21.49 | dererk | yast? |
| 15:21.51 | Begasus | the same way I added my ZETA and BeOS R5 install |
| 15:21.56 | dererk | apt, x en es yast |
| 15:22.03 | Begasus | yast .. system .. bootloader config |
| 15:22.15 | dererk | oh, SuSe stuff |
| 15:22.21 | Begasus | yast = suse config app |
| 15:22.36 | dererk | Yes, I realised that already |
| 15:22.54 | dererk | well, anyway, as I said, it's easy to do it manually |
| 15:23.10 | Begasus | or should I not install grub in elive? |
| 15:23.39 | dererk | The first option should be the most appropiate for the 80% of the users |
| 15:23.45 | Begasus | and add an entry in grub.conf in opensuse to the elive kernel? |
| 15:23.55 | Begasus | well I'm not in that part of users .. :) |
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| 15:24.23 | dererk | Simple way, choose not to use Grub |
| 15:24.40 | Begasus | I don't even get a way to choose the /swap partition ... |
| 15:24.44 | dererk | and then add the respective line to the already installed grub |
| 15:25.05 | dererk | Begasus, Did you? |
| 15:25.13 | Begasus | yep .. |
| 15:25.19 | dererk | Why? Didn't it appear? |
| 15:25.35 | Begasus | but that's maybe because it sees a /swap partition already? |
| 15:25.47 | Arnald | was someone having trouble installing on vmware? |
| 15:25.50 | dererk | did you create a particion with Gparted to be placed as swap? |
| 15:25.55 | IcedEarth | Arnald I am still away |
| 15:26.00 | IcedEarth | but did you succeed yet? |
| 15:26.09 | dererk | oh, yes yes, I understand Begasus |
| 15:26.10 | Begasus | no the /swap partition is the one used for opensuse too |
| 15:26.16 | dererk | yes yes |
| 15:26.20 | Begasus | so earlier one ;) |
| 15:26.27 | Arnald | IcedEarth: I've just restarted, got caught by the "slow ext3" issue I think |
| 15:26.31 | dererk | I forgot that |
| 15:26.36 | IcedEarth | urk |
| 15:26.39 | IcedEarth | well hang in there man |
| 15:26.39 | Arnald | doing reiserfs now |
| 15:26.42 | IcedEarth | cool |
| 15:26.43 | t0mas | Arnald: jup |
| 15:26.49 | Elive_user | Thana are you here? |
| 15:26.54 | t0mas | Vmware doesn't boot with the 0.4 PRE cd |
| 15:26.58 | t0mas | or atleast... |
| 15:27.03 | t0mas | it does ofcourse display grub |
| 15:27.03 | Arnald | t0mas: was this before, or after, installation |
| 15:27.10 | dererk | Arnald, That's why is quite recommended to use ReiserFs |
| 15:27.11 | t0mas | installation? |
| 15:27.18 | t0mas | it doesn't come far past grub... |
| 15:27.20 | t0mas | it segfaults there |
| 15:27.23 | t0mas | and init panics |
| 15:27.29 | dererk | Elive_user, he seems to be away by now |
| 15:27.35 | Arnald | OK well I've got past there if you want to compare notes |
| 15:27.44 | Elive_user | k well i thought he might be lurking :) |
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| 15:27.55 | t0mas | Arnald: done anything special for that? |
| 15:27.55 | dererk | t0mas, veeeeeeery strange |
| 15:27.59 | t0mas | and what vmware version? |
| 15:28.16 | Arnald | no. just used the VMX from my debian VM |
| 15:28.18 | dererk | t0mas, 'cause I know Thanatermesis used Vmware to test it |
| 15:28.19 | t0mas | (this is a danger release ;) 4.0.0) |
| 15:28.50 | t0mas | hm... I might be able to download the iso of a new version from my work... |
| 15:28.54 | Arnald | and a fresh 4G disk |
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| 15:29.11 | roxville | there will be a new release... so please keep posting your problems |
| 15:29.19 | Begasus | seems when selecting ext3 there are some problems too ... |
| 15:29.19 | roxville | everybody |
| 15:29.23 | Arnald | t0mas: vmware player 1.0.0 |
| 15:29.25 | roxville | yes |
| 15:29.27 | t0mas | ah player |
| 15:29.27 | IcedEarth | hey roxville |
| 15:29.32 | t0mas | I used the real workstation program |
| 15:29.32 | Begasus | now with reiserfs the indicator is moving ... |
| 15:29.32 | roxville | hey ice |
| 15:29.41 | Begasus | hi roxville |
| 15:29.41 | IcedEarth | been guiding a few through install |
| 15:29.43 | IcedEarth | whew |
| 15:29.53 | Begasus | ;) |
| 15:29.55 | roxville | Begasus, please do reiserfs |
| 15:30.03 | LinuxNIT | ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.12 was not installed but ndisutils was. no biggie cause you can apt-get it just thought you might want to know |
| 15:30.04 | Begasus | at it already roxville ;) |
| 15:30.14 | roxville | i don't know why, but for gods sakes, use reiserfs! |
| 15:30.28 | roxville | :) |
| 15:30.31 | Begasus | why use the ext3 option still in the installer then? :P |
| 15:30.48 | Begasus | remove that one then !! :P ;) |
| 15:30.57 | IcedEarth | okay now chaps play nicely |
| 15:30.59 | LinuxNIT | roxville, i got it installed on my laptop :) just wiped out gentoo for a /home partition lol |
| 15:31.03 | IcedEarth | queensbury rules in here |
| 15:31.19 | roxville | dunno... thana was actually thinking about DISBLING ext3 alltogether |
| 15:31.23 | LinuxNIT | and no i dont get the Bus error when i apt-get update |
| 15:31.30 | LinuxNIT | no=now |
| 15:31.33 | Arnald | t0mas: whoops it is 1.0.1, sorry! |
| 15:31.35 | roxville | tthat's a scary thought though... |
| 15:32.03 | dererk | roxville, have fun |
| 15:32.25 | roxville | anyway, please help thana get 0.4 out as stable as possible... then we can move on the next BIG release... 0.5, on a new platform and everything :) |
| 15:32.43 | pale_horse | new platform ? |
| 15:32.45 | pale_horse | :O |
| 15:32.51 | Begasus | correct support for ps2 mouse ;) |
| 15:32.55 | roxville | dererk, have fun? with what? |
| 15:33.02 | roxville | pale_horse, yes |
| 15:33.16 | pale_horse | ummm amd_64 ?? < please please > |
| 15:33.23 | Begasus | hehe |
| 15:34.03 | roxville | hehe, my buddy eshep in okinawa is running his elive on a amd64.... he says it works fine |
| 15:34.09 | roxville | ask him if you see him |
| 15:34.20 | pale_horse | I'll know today |
| 15:34.27 | roxville | since he's in okinawa, his hours are a little different :) |
| 15:34.29 | pale_horse | but a 64 bit would be sweet |
| 15:34.34 | roxville | yep |
| 15:35.02 | LinuxNIT | but if the os is not set up for 64bit you wont get full usage out of the 64bit system |
| 15:35.16 | roxville | LinuxNIT, correct |
| 15:35.43 | Begasus | well you get to use it on a 64bit system ... that's a starting point ;) |
| 15:35.54 | roxville | but thana needs an amd64 to be able to build |
| 15:36.06 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 15:36.07 | roxville | IcedEarth, were you trying to send me something? |
| 15:36.11 | IcedEarth | nah |
| 15:36.14 | roxville | retry if you did |
| 15:36.16 | IcedEarth | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:36.17 | roxville | ok |
| 15:36.20 | roxville | lol |
| 15:36.22 | Begasus | hehe |
| 15:36.22 | IcedEarth | dont know how to do it |
| 15:36.31 | Begasus | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:36.33 | roxville | or /query |
| 15:36.48 | LinuxNIT | alt click on his name and open dialog hehe i go the graphical way |
| 15:37.02 | LinuxNIT | they like the command line |
| 15:37.03 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 15:37.04 | Begasus | double click on the name is ok here too |
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| 15:39.40 | LinuxNIT | what the heck under config panel focus settings i set it to use click to focus but the focus still follows the mouse (click or not) |
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| 15:40.16 | Elive_user91 | hi |
| 15:40.26 | Begasus | ho |
| 15:40.30 | Elive_user91 | I need help...with hd install |
| 15:40.47 | Begasus | we all do ;) |
| 15:40.54 | Begasus | well not all actualy ;) |
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| 15:41.04 | LinuxNIT | im intsalled :) |
| 15:41.11 | Elive_user91 | I made reserf partitions but they are not seen by the installer |
| 15:41.39 | dererk | Elive_user91, ok, run: |
| 15:41.47 | Begasus | I resized a partition with gparted earlier |
| 15:42.04 | dererk | "apt-get update && apt-get install eliveinstaller" Elive_user91 |
| 15:42.13 | dererk | Elive_user91, as root |
| 15:42.36 | Elive_user91 | thanks dererk, that soundls like an answer...I will do it |
| 15:42.43 | pale_horse | dereck, after install is there an app to reconfigure the net card ? |
| 15:42.54 | dererk | pale_horse, yes |
| 15:43.01 | pale_horse | dhcp at work and fixed at home |
| 15:43.08 | dererk | pale_horse, You'll found all the app to do that on ElPanel |
| 15:43.20 | dererk | The rightest icon on the ibar |
| 15:43.35 | pale_horse | cool well I'll be doing it this afternoon when I go get my iso |
| 15:44.21 | Begasus | sh*t ... |
| 15:44.28 | Begasus | do I need to install a user? |
| 15:44.41 | dererk | Begasus, to do what? |
| 15:44.48 | Begasus | to finish the installation |
| 15:45.07 | dererk | You have to have Root and a Common user |
| 15:45.09 | dererk | ALWAYS |
| 15:45.15 | dererk | (imho) |
| 15:45.31 | roxville | lol |
| 15:45.33 | Begasus | well the installer just quit it seems ... |
| 15:45.43 | LinuxNIT | just wait |
| 15:45.47 | Begasus | it should say that you need to do that ... |
| 15:45.51 | Begasus | waiting stilll |
| 15:45.53 | Begasus | -l |
| 15:45.54 | roxville | yes... i get so annoyed with him every once in a while, that i log off completely |
| 15:47.25 | roxville | s/him/it = the installer |
| 15:47.37 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 15:48.24 | Begasus | well it sertanly leaves room for improvements ... |
| 15:48.32 | Begasus | certanly* |
| 15:48.43 | Begasus | don't mind my typo's ;) |
| 15:48.58 | IcedEarth | http://wiki.elivecd.org/en/blog/icedearth/busy_time_for_0_4_pre_new_users_we_want_to_hear_from_you |
| 15:50.00 | Elive_user91 | Sweet -- it is installing now without a hitch |
| 15:50.21 | Elive_user91 | thanks dererk |
| 15:50.22 | Begasus | arghhhhhhhhhh |
| 15:50.34 | IcedEarth | whats up Begasus? |
| 15:50.45 | IcedEarth | patience my friend |
| 15:50.54 | IcedEarth | all good things come to those who wait |
| 15:50.57 | Begasus | not my best thing ;) |
| 15:51.22 | IcedEarth | we live in an age of instant gratification |
| 15:51.22 | Begasus | and the regular beer is all gone here .. |
| 15:51.25 | IcedEarth | rise above it |
| 15:51.26 | Begasus | hehe |
| 15:51.35 | IcedEarth | thanks for registering on the wiki btw |
| 15:51.41 | Begasus | np ;) |
| 15:51.48 | Begasus | waiting for the mail :P |
| 15:51.49 | Begasus | LOL |
| 15:51.52 | IcedEarth | Big shout out to new Elive users, register on the wiki |
| 15:52.02 | Elive_user91 | I was even able to get most of 03 moving last night...infact with elive 03 i downloaded the torrent for 04 burned it to disk and watched movies too lst night... |
| 15:52.06 | IcedEarth | It may go into spam |
| 15:52.23 | IcedEarth | as the email address is from pr0t0cod7 and the filters seems |
| 15:52.31 | IcedEarth | to choke on his username in the email address |
| 15:52.55 | Begasus | there .. registered |
| 15:53.26 | IcedEarth | excellent |
| 15:54.37 | roxville | ok new users... you wil NOT recieve an email... but you ARE registered... just go in there and login |
| 15:55.33 | Begasus | I got the email from pro... |
| 15:55.45 | roxville | you did? ok :) |
| 15:57.28 | *** join/#elive eightball (n=Elive_us@toronto-HSE-ppp4185411.sympatico.ca) |
| 15:58.58 | Begasus | there posted first comment .. |
| 15:59.06 | Begasus | and still waiting ... :S |
| 16:00.43 | Begasus | it's snowing here ... |
| 16:01.04 | Begasus | here = Belgium |
| 16:01.28 | roxville | wow... that's not very often, is it? |
| 16:01.53 | Begasus | not to rare here though .. but it was pretty warm the last days for snow |
| 16:02.07 | Begasus | in the northern part of Belgium they are still sky'ing ;) |
| 16:02.18 | Begasus | hmm southern part ... |
| 16:03.11 | Begasus | what's a good time te restart the installer? :P |
| 16:03.43 | *** join/#elive eightball (n=grgaud@toronto-HSE-ppp4185411.sympatico.ca) |
| 16:03.44 | roxville | what is happening? |
| 16:03.52 | Begasus | nothing .. that's the problem .. |
| 16:04.47 | roxville | lol, ok... THEN it may be time :) |
| 16:04.57 | Begasus | yeah!!! |
| 16:04.59 | Begasus | ;) |
| 16:05.05 | roxville | Begasus, did you make an extended partition for /home? |
| 16:05.12 | Begasus | nope |
| 16:05.23 | roxville | hmmm |
| 16:05.30 | Begasus | I don't use extended partition in linux |
| 16:05.36 | Begasus | only in ZETA/BeOS :P |
| 16:05.37 | roxville | it's not hard, and the installer will help you with it |
| 16:05.42 | eightball | what's the dif if extended or primary |
| 16:06.00 | roxville | eightball, if i knew i would tell you |
| 16:06.14 | Begasus | in extented partitions you can create logical partitions |
| 16:06.17 | roxville | all i can do now, is tell you what works, and what doesn't |
| 16:06.35 | Begasus | primary partitions can only contain primary partitions (well they are just that) |
| 16:06.44 | Begasus | lol |
| 16:07.04 | Begasus | don't tell me that I 'need' to use a /home partition? |
| 16:07.22 | IcedEarth | no you dont |
| 16:07.24 | IcedEarth | i never do |
| 16:07.30 | Begasus | ah thought so ;) |
| 16:07.31 | IcedEarth | i am still away though |
| 16:07.32 | eightball | I had a problem with initial installation, but I downloaded an update, while ussing the live CD and it fixed the primary/extended probelm. It seems GParted couldn't see if there wasn't an extended partition |
| 16:08.11 | IcedEarth | so eightball your now on a hard disk installation |
| 16:08.40 | eightball | 10-4 and gparted can read my partitions even though I don't have an extended partition |
| 16:09.06 | IcedEarth | ah well |
| 16:09.08 | IcedEarth | do you need on |
| 16:09.09 | IcedEarth | e |
| 16:09.21 | Begasus | normaly yes ... |
| 16:09.29 | eightball | I don't think you do |
| 16:09.30 | Begasus | if for nothing else then /swap |
| 16:09.51 | Begasus | or can that be used from a primary one too? |
| 16:10.06 | eightball | I have /swap, root and home partitions, all primary |
| 16:10.13 | IcedEarth | yes me too |
| 16:10.20 | IcedEarth | i have an extended /data partition |
| 16:10.36 | IcedEarth | and one for another OS, you know that odd one |
| 16:10.42 | eightball | my HDD is only 40 gig |
| 16:10.48 | IcedEarth | mine is only 20 |
| 16:10.53 | Begasus | 80 ... |
| 16:10.59 | Begasus | but with a few OS's on it |
| 16:11.04 | eightball | I've been wanting to get me a bigger one, they're cheap now |
| 16:11.14 | Begasus | well 2 x 80 |
| 16:11.38 | eightball | You can get a 160 for less money, unless you buy used |
| 16:11.40 | Begasus | some fat32 partitions (accesable from all the other os's) |
| 16:12.12 | IcedEarth | okay eightball |
| 16:12.16 | eightball | eeeek! windows partitions!!!! |
| 16:12.16 | IcedEarth | want to register on the wiki |
| 16:12.19 | IcedEarth | ? |
| 16:12.22 | IcedEarth | wiki.elivecd.org |
| 16:12.35 | eightball | okay, I'll go do that, be back in two. |
| 16:12.44 | IcedEarth | nice one!! |
| 16:13.02 | Begasus | it's slowly getting white outside ... |
| 16:13.26 | roxville | lol |
| 16:13.41 | IcedEarth | its tried to snow in England |
| 16:13.44 | IcedEarth | last week |
| 16:13.49 | IcedEarth | its been freeeezin |
| 16:14.11 | Begasus | found one!!! ;) |
| 16:14.28 | roxville | ANNOUNCEMENT!!! |
| 16:14.39 | IcedEarth | wooh |
| 16:14.42 | IcedEarth | what is it roxville |
| 16:14.54 | roxville | new users, please sign up on the elive wiki, and blog your positive experiences :) |
| 16:15.05 | roxville | ]and post your bad ones in the forums! |
| 16:15.09 | Begasus | only possitive? |
| 16:15.24 | IcedEarth | well, go to the forum |
| 16:15.24 | roxville | http://wiki.elivecd.org/ |
| 16:15.30 | roxville | hehe, i was kidding |
| 16:15.32 | IcedEarth | if you have had problems |
| 16:15.36 | IcedEarth | and post up installation problems |
| 16:15.44 | IcedEarth | the URL is in my latest post on front page |
| 16:15.47 | Begasus | I did .. but I can't find it .. |
| 16:15.58 | sinplomo | :) |
| 16:16.18 | Begasus | ah got it .:) |
| 16:16.21 | roxville | hehe sinplomo ... you like it? |
| 16:17.51 | IcedEarth | its a gool song! |
| 16:17.52 | IcedEarth | cool even |
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| 16:18.57 | Begasus | wb t0mas |
| 16:19.01 | t0mas | tnx |
| 16:19.15 | IcedEarth | cheers eightball |
| 16:19.23 | IcedEarth | feel free to wax lyrical on the wiki |
| 16:19.42 | eightball | I'm doing it as we speak |
| 16:20.27 | roxville | hehe... eighties frak, eh? |
| 16:21.00 | IcedEarth | devo, now theres a band I aint heard in a while |
| 16:21.46 | roxville | hehe |
| 16:21.48 | Begasus | ok ... |
| 16:21.53 | roxville | "WHIP IT" |
| 16:22.02 | Begasus | now I'm at the point to install grub (or not) |
| 16:22.03 | Begasus | what now? |
| 16:22.23 | IcedEarth | mongoloid |
| 16:22.34 | Begasus | I want to use the grub bootloader from opensuse (whitch is already installed in mbr) |
| 16:22.37 | IcedEarth | is the name of a devo song |
| 16:22.46 | IcedEarth | in case anyone was thinking i had gone mad |
| 16:22.58 | IcedEarth | mmm |
| 16:23.00 | IcedEarth | e |
| 16:23.07 | IcedEarth | Begasus, this is unchatered territory |
| 16:23.14 | IcedEarth | you are a pioneer my friend |
| 16:23.19 | Begasus | :S |
| 16:23.20 | IcedEarth | may the wind be behind you |
| 16:23.35 | Begasus | well the second option did not seem to work ... |
| 16:23.37 | IcedEarth | It may not be, remember this is a beta |
| 16:23.43 | Begasus | the first one isn't even an option |
| 16:23.52 | Begasus | that only leaves me with the last one .. |
| 16:24.27 | Begasus | I only need to know what to fill in into the opensuse grub config file ... |
| 16:24.54 | IcedEarth | mm |
| 16:25.10 | IcedEarth | well i dont use grub, but i would imagine the entry points at the partition etc |
| 16:25.47 | IcedEarth | is OpenSuSE your working OS then? |
| 16:25.55 | Begasus | how do you boot Elive then? |
| 16:26.04 | Begasus | it's one of the working OS's IcedEarth |
| 16:26.07 | IcedEarth | No I do have grub |
| 16:26.15 | IcedEarth | i occasionally get it all wrong |
| 16:26.20 | Begasus | the pc is not running that much (I'm mostly on the laptop) |
| 16:26.21 | IcedEarth | and on this occasion i did |
| 16:26.27 | Begasus | hehe |
| 16:26.36 | IcedEarth | I dont use lilo, I use grub |
| 16:26.41 | Begasus | usualy I install the bootloader for the os to /root |
| 16:26.53 | IcedEarth | and I just let Elive do its thing to grub on MBR and |
| 16:26.57 | Begasus | so I can use a diferant bootloader to load the partition |
| 16:27.05 | IcedEarth | it found my <cough cough> M$ partition |
| 16:27.12 | IcedEarth | not sure |
| 16:27.17 | Begasus | well that's not an option (installing a new grub into /mbr) |
| 16:27.19 | IcedEarth | this is not my area of technical expertise |
| 16:27.28 | IcedEarth | yes, i always install new grub |
| 16:27.34 | IcedEarth | but it finds my other OSes |
| 16:27.37 | IcedEarth | and all is okay |
| 16:27.40 | roxville | Begasus, what i, supernoob, did... this was on elive0.3... i installed grub in the root dir |
| 16:27.58 | roxville | and copied grub.menu to my ubutnu grub |
| 16:28.37 | roxville | but... it worked |
| 16:28.42 | t0mas | ghehe |
| 16:29.08 | Begasus | well I took the second option and installed it in /root |
| 16:29.18 | IcedEarth | i have put 'how to repair grub' into google a few times |
| 16:29.25 | Begasus | gonna see if opensuse can see the partition and add it there ... |
| 16:29.36 | IcedEarth | thats an idea |
| 16:29.56 | t0mas | hm? what's the problem? |
| 16:30.13 | t0mas | I've been running all kinds of linux distros... and windows on 1 pc |
| 16:30.18 | t0mas | without ruining grub once |
| 16:30.27 | t0mas | just ask the distro's not to install it... |
| 16:30.38 | IcedEarth | yes, i havent f**ked up in a couple of years |
| 16:30.43 | IcedEarth | grub has been good 2 me |
| 16:30.50 | Begasus | now he comes in ... |
| 16:31.30 | Begasus | t0mas then you have to edit your (boot.ini) I presume to boot the other os's |
| 16:31.39 | t0mas | jup |
| 16:31.45 | t0mas | my first setup is gentoo linux |
| 16:31.52 | t0mas | and I edit my grub.conf there... |
| 16:32.22 | IcedEarth | thanxs to all who registered on wiki |
| 16:32.28 | IcedEarth | and posted problems |
| 16:32.29 | IcedEarth | etc |
| 16:36.08 | Begasus | np |
| 16:36.25 | IcedEarth | :) |
| 16:40.38 | Begasus | yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:40.45 | IcedEarth | whats up |
| 16:40.48 | IcedEarth | you sound happy |
| 16:40.50 | Begasus | booting !! ;) |
| 16:41.04 | Begasus | added entry in grub.lst |
| 16:41.27 | roxville | :) |
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| 16:41.48 | IcedEarth | rock and roll |
| 16:43.07 | Begasus | seems that it's seeing both my nick's in the pc |
| 16:43.32 | IcedEarth | both your nicks in the pc? |
| 16:43.33 | IcedEarth | eh? |
| 16:43.34 | Begasus | nic's ..* |
| 16:43.54 | Begasus | ethernet |
| 16:44.26 | Begasus | one wireless pci card and a regular pci network card |
| 16:45.06 | IcedEarth | yes i have two detected |
| 16:45.17 | IcedEarth | my wireless and onboard nic |
| 16:45.34 | Begasus | seems the wireless one does not get activated though |
| 16:46.02 | IcedEarth | no, this is a bit of problem for me |
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| 16:46.07 | IcedEarth | you have to activate from elpanel |
| 16:46.07 | Begasus | is there no e17 in the install? |
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| 16:46.19 | Elive_user67 | Elive 0.4 in vmwaqre |
| 16:46.20 | Begasus | the regular one is working ;) |
| 16:46.25 | Elive_user3 | plop |
| 16:46.37 | t0mas|elive | it works with VMware 5.5 |
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| 16:47.30 | roxville | hello Elive_user |
| 16:47.37 | Elive_user3 | hi |
| 16:47.41 | roxville | hello Elive_user3 |
| 16:47.43 | IcedEarth | the wireless one will work |
| 16:47.44 | roxville | :) |
| 16:47.45 | IcedEarth | mine does |
| 16:47.47 | IcedEarth | just activate it |
| 16:47.58 | IcedEarth | making sure you set the default gateway ESSID WEP etc |
| 16:48.30 | eightball | just curious, but what does "taking a whallop" mean in chat jargon |
| 16:48.38 | IcedEarth | no idea |
| 16:48.56 | roxville | moebergeron, welcome to #elive |
| 16:49.42 | moebergeron | question. what is the preferred WIFI card for Elive or Debian? |
| 16:50.18 | IcedEarth | i have got a buffallo card |
| 16:50.19 | IcedEarth | works fine |
| 16:50.34 | moebergeron | any specific model? |
| 16:50.36 | IcedEarth | if youve got a DLINK no way |
| 16:50.42 | IcedEarth | hold on ill take it out |
| 16:50.48 | t0mas|elive | I've got an asus |
| 16:50.51 | t0mas|elive | works fine too |
| 16:50.55 | t0mas|elive | with ndiswrapper |
| 16:51.01 | moebergeron | it sees my dlink 650 but wep is out |
| 16:51.01 | t0mas|elive | and the windows drivers |
| 16:51.31 | IcedEarth | WLI-PCM-L11GP |
| 16:51.39 | IcedEarth | its an old 11mbit card |
| 16:51.43 | IcedEarth | but works just fine |
| 16:51.47 | moebergeron | excellent - thanks |
| 16:51.50 | Begasus | jikes ... |
| 16:52.07 | Begasus | seems I can't boot into 1280x1024 |
| 16:52.17 | Begasus | no graphical login now ... :S |
| 16:52.44 | Begasus | what was the command to reset to previous x config? |
| 16:52.58 | IcedEarth | wep will work |
| 16:53.07 | IcedEarth | um |
| 16:53.09 | Begasus | wep? |
| 16:53.22 | IcedEarth | sorry i was on another conversation |
| 16:53.24 | IcedEarth | not sure |
| 16:53.25 | moebergeron | wireless Encryption |
| 16:53.36 | Begasus | hehe |
| 16:53.47 | IcedEarth | mmm perhaps go into VI and change your x.org conf file |
| 16:53.54 | IcedEarth | to 1024x768 |
| 16:54.13 | moebergeron | to all... i must say I am *very impressed* with elive .04 |
| 16:54.53 | Begasus | where do I find x.org config file? |
| 16:56.23 | roxville | /etc/X11/xorg.conf, i believe |
| 16:56.56 | Begasus | nope .. I am there already |
| 16:57.23 | IcedEarth | thanks moebergeron |
| 16:57.38 | moebergeron | welcome |
| 16:57.44 | IcedEarth | (I thank on behalf of developer who may or may not be here) |
| 16:57.51 | IcedEarth | Im sure he wouldn't mind |
| 16:57.54 | IcedEarth | If you like it |
| 16:57.58 | IcedEarth | please sign up to the wiki |
| 16:58.02 | moebergeron | will do |
| 16:58.05 | IcedEarth | and tell us your new experiences with Elive |
| 16:58.16 | IcedEarth | wiki.elivecd.org |
| 16:58.28 | moebergeron | will do again |
| 16:58.32 | IcedEarth | :) |
| 17:01.38 | Arnald | hmm, the installer crashed after I set the root password and declined to set up another user. Must I create an additional user? |
| 17:03.23 | Begasus | yep |
| 17:03.41 | Arnald | OK, this will take a while . . . |
| 17:04.14 | Begasus | btw the xorg.conf was in there roxville ... missed it ;) |
| 17:04.39 | roxville | :) |
| 17:05.24 | Begasus | ok back in buseness ... |
| 17:05.32 | Begasus | well almost |
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| 17:09.02 | Begasus | yes!! we've got visual!! ;) |
| 17:09.27 | Begasus | probs with 32bit resolution it seems |
| 17:10.38 | Begasus | btw .. how do I load e17? |
| 17:11.12 | IcedEarth | at the entrance |
| 17:11.16 | roxville | in the login manager, entrance, there is a small e16 symbol on the left...lower left |
| 17:11.21 | IcedEarth | there you go |
| 17:11.24 | Begasus | ah k |
| 17:11.30 | roxville | click on it, and it will give you the option |
| 17:12.09 | Begasus | cool thnx! |
| 17:12.19 | Begasus | now that's more like it!! |
| 17:12.20 | IcedEarth | your in, your up, your off!! |
| 17:12.31 | IcedEarth | Touch the sky brother |
| 17:14.05 | Begasus | do the dev's of Elive use dual view? |
| 17:14.13 | Begasus | all the windows are wide ... |
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| 17:14.46 | Begasus_Elive | there ;) |
| 17:17.20 | IcedEarth | so your all done Begasus |
| 17:17.24 | IcedEarth | you can begin your new life |
| 17:17.29 | IcedEarth | your new Elife |
| 17:17.32 | Begasus_Elive | seems so IcedEarth |
| 17:17.40 | Begasus_Elive | system up and running |
| 17:17.40 | IcedEarth | he he |
| 17:17.48 | IcedEarth | We have lift off houston |
| 17:17.56 | Begasus_Elive | now looking on how it works and feelings etc ... |
| 17:18.08 | IcedEarth | go for it |
| 17:18.13 | IcedEarth | you can spend hours tweaking this beauty |
| 17:23.13 | Begasus | hmm it is still in 640x480 ... :S |
| 17:23.34 | IcedEarth | urk |
| 17:23.35 | Begasus | no wonder I need to drag the windows ... |
| 17:23.52 | IcedEarth | what is offered to you in configuration > resolution |
| 17:24.05 | Begasus | only that one ... |
| 17:24.15 | Begasus | that's how I find it out ... |
| 17:24.34 | IcedEarth | mmm |
| 17:24.41 | IcedEarth | what graphics card? |
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| 17:25.06 | Begasus | radeon 9600 pro 256DDR |
| 17:25.30 | IcedEarth | radeon, is that ATI? |
| 17:25.41 | t0mas | radeon 9600 XT 256 mb |
| 17:25.45 | t0mas | almost the same :) |
| 17:25.53 | roxville | yes it is |
| 17:25.57 | IcedEarth | mmm |
| 17:26.00 | IcedEarth | any ideas rox |
| 17:26.01 | Begasus | how is your resolution t0mas? |
| 17:26.02 | IcedEarth | on the resolution issue |
| 17:26.05 | t0mas | Begasus: what's your problem? |
| 17:26.13 | *** join/#elive Mutacion (n=Mutacion@201.153.53.218) |
| 17:26.14 | t0mas | it's at 1280x1024 |
| 17:26.16 | roxville | try vhsync |
| 17:26.20 | Begasus | I can't get passed 640 x xxxxx |
| 17:26.23 | t0mas | with the fglrx driver |
| 17:26.32 | t0mas | as thet's the one I used for debian too... |
| 17:27.13 | Mutacion | knock knock |
| 17:27.26 | Mutacion | roxvile!! adivina qe me ha pasado!! |
| 17:27.26 | Arnald | BTW while I'm waiting for the install to complete - I noticed earlier while in e16 there was a single vertical white line at the right-hand side of the panel at the bottomo of the screen. Is this an artifact of my system or does everyone get that? |
| 17:27.26 | IcedEarth | whos there |
| 17:27.29 | Begasus | not that known arround the sytem anymore .. |
| 17:27.42 | IcedEarth | not me |
| 17:27.45 | Mutacion | Begasus, i got the same pob.. and u know what i did? |
| 17:27.45 | IcedEarth | no white lines here |
| 17:27.53 | Begasus | no Mutacion |
| 17:28.02 | Begasus | what did you do? |
| 17:28.05 | Arnald | OK, e17 is fine so I'm not worried ;) |
| 17:28.24 | Mutacion | Begasus, download ubuntu-livecd.. run it on my pc.. copy #/etc/X11/xorg.conf into /hda5 |
| 17:28.38 | Begasus | from the live cd Mutacion? |
| 17:28.39 | roxville | Arnald, everyone gets that... that is the systray |
| 17:28.46 | Mutacion | then restart my pc.. run elive and do an #cp /hda5/xorg.conf /etc/X11/ |
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| 17:28.53 | Begasus | I've got that lying arround here so that should work then? |
| 17:28.57 | Mutacion | and voila! we got 1024 678 xD |
| 17:29.00 | Arnald | OK |
| 17:29.25 | Mutacion | yeah copy the xorg.conf from the ubuntu-livecd |
| 17:29.40 | IcedEarth | is that tip on the forum I wonder? |
| 17:29.47 | Begasus | hmm even from the install cd? |
| 17:29.50 | Mutacion | rox rox! i got 1024 yin resolution! jiji..i love mexico :P we love to do this kind of things jjijiji |
| 17:29.58 | Mutacion | Begasus, from the ubuntu-live cd |
| 17:30.01 | Arnald | Is there a reason that live CD installers don't just copy the file themselves? |
| 17:30.02 | roxville | Mutacion, awesome! |
| 17:30.09 | Arnald | I've seen this so many times |
| 17:30.21 | Arnald | xorg.conf I mean |
| 17:30.25 | IcedEarth | Arnald |
| 17:30.26 | roxville | Arnald, they are actually two different systems |
| 17:30.39 | IcedEarth | urk |
| 17:30.48 | IcedEarth | Should this be put on the forum as a solution |
| 17:30.50 | Mutacion | 1) insert livecd-ubuntu.. it will give u a normal resolution on ur pc..1024 768.... u only have to copy the xorg.conf from ur ubunut-live and paste it on ur elive instalation |
| 17:31.02 | Mutacion | yeahyeah :P.. so.. where the wikki? ulr |
| 17:31.04 | Mutacion | url |
| 17:31.14 | IcedEarth | wiki.elivecd.org |
| 17:31.17 | Arnald | but after the filesystem is populated it should be possible, shouldn't it? Not being critical, I'm just curious |
| 17:31.20 | IcedEarth | goto forum |
| 17:31.48 | Arnald | had the same problem just yesterday with Belenix |
| 17:32.33 | Arnald | It's a littel confusing to see the live CD pick up all your hardware configs, and not transfer them to the new system |
| 17:32.44 | IcedEarth | This is a beta |
| 17:32.49 | IcedEarth | pioneer land |
| 17:32.57 | IcedEarth | nothing is perfect yet ;) |
| 17:33.28 | Arnald | I'm just saying, it's not just elive that it happens on |
| 17:34.00 | IcedEarth | ah a 'wider' problem |
| 17:34.04 | IcedEarth | ok |
| 17:34.21 | Arnald | ISTR Knoppix failing to do it last time I installed that |
| 17:34.33 | IcedEarth | we all know we have to jump through a few hoops in land of linux still :( |
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| 17:35.26 | Arnald | quite |
| 17:36.37 | Arnald | I do like the idea of elive though, so I'm not going to abandon it yet |
| 17:36.47 | IcedEarth | no, its no worse than a lot I have trid |
| 17:36.53 | IcedEarth | and USB detection is superb |
| 17:37.00 | IcedEarth | as is DVD CD detection |
| 17:37.06 | IcedEarth | nothing wrong here |
| 17:37.15 | IcedEarth | light and snappy GUI |
| 17:37.19 | IcedEarth | totally configurable |
| 17:37.22 | t0mas | hm... how do I remove the battery icon from my elive desktop? |
| 17:37.24 | IcedEarth | what more can we ask for |
| 17:37.31 | IcedEarth | turn off module |
| 17:37.38 | t0mas | where? |
| 17:37.44 | IcedEarth | hold on |
| 17:38.20 | IcedEarth | configuration > configuration panel > modules |
| 17:38.23 | IcedEarth | and unload the battery one |
| 17:38.48 | t0mas | tnx |
| 17:38.52 | IcedEarth | np |
| 17:38.56 | Arnald | Installer final stage now - phew! |
| 17:38.56 | IcedEarth | should really do a how to |
| 17:39.06 | t0mas | might be a nice suggestion to the enlightenment people to add a richt click -> unload option |
| 17:39.08 | t0mas | in edit mode |
| 17:39.13 | t0mas | as I expected to find it there |
| 17:39.20 | roxville | tomas open the "configuraton" entry |
| 17:39.24 | roxville | in the menu |
| 17:39.25 | IcedEarth | yes, a suggestion could go on the forum |
| 17:39.45 | t0mas | roxville: yeah, it's gone |
| 17:39.50 | roxville | ok |
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| 17:42.42 | pcs333 | anyone tried a full upgrade on 0.4 yet? |
| 17:45.27 | Mutacion | mm good question pcs333 |
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| 17:46.03 | IcedEarth | is 0.4 ready or are you talking about 0.4 pre |
| 17:46.15 | pcs333 | i tried yesterday but broke my nvidia driver |
| 17:46.30 | pcs333 | 0.4 pre |
| 17:46.34 | IcedEarth | mine is working |
| 17:46.44 | IcedEarth | but i dont have to worry about graphics |
| 17:46.45 | IcedEarth | card |
| 17:46.48 | IcedEarth | as my laptop is old |
| 17:47.00 | Mutacion | pcs333, im still with the beta.. im waiting for the pre to be release :) and then ill do an distro upgrade |
| 17:47.15 | IcedEarth | Mutacion, Pre is released |
| 17:47.35 | IcedEarth | http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/PreVersion |
| 17:47.43 | pcs333 | noticed today that there are alot of updates for e17 and tools |
| 17:47.52 | Mutacion | IcedEarth, when pre is release to a "estable" version |
| 17:48.05 | IcedEarth | eh |
| 17:48.14 | Arnald | hmmm, one slight problem - no networking! |
| 17:48.18 | IcedEarth | ah ok |
| 17:48.18 | Arnald | no interfaces |
| 17:48.23 | IcedEarth | would love to help but have to go now |
| 17:48.54 | Arnald | IcedEarth: see ya! |
| 17:48.57 | Arnald | thanks |
| 17:49.16 | roxville | Arnald, open elpanel |
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| 17:49.35 | roxville | it's the icon on the far right in engage or ibar |
| 17:49.38 | Arnald | will do |
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| 17:49.45 | roxville | the folder with the tools on it |
| 17:50.22 | roxville | the network cinf thing is in the "keys" menu |
| 17:50.30 | roxville | conf |
| 17:50.42 | Cryovat | Anyone here know if Elive has had problems with Dell laptops before? |
| 17:52.27 | Arnald | roxville: interesting, resolv.conf was already configured by DHCP |
| 17:52.48 | roxville | ok... if you say so... |
| 17:52.51 | roxville | :) |
| 17:53.23 | Mutacion | rox, where ppl can download elive? |
| 17:53.23 | roxville | Cryovat, what kind of problems? |
| 17:53.35 | Cryovat | Sadly, too many |
| 17:53.39 | roxville | Mutacion, it's just via torrent so far |
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| 17:53.52 | Cryovat | After GRUB, it wouldn't read keyboard input, so I had to use an external keyboard to type |
| 17:53.55 | roxville | and there WILL be a NEW iso for the official release! |
| 17:53.56 | pcs333 | works great on toshiba laptop |
| 17:54.15 | Cryovat | And when I try to select an E version, it drops me to console saying no screens found |
| 17:54.42 | Arnald | roxville: my resolv.conf is unmistakable! |
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| 17:54.51 | roxville | wow Cryovat ... i'm so srry... Mutacion have any ideas on this? |
| 17:55.13 | Cryovat | Only slight irregularities on boot was a brief message slightly like "i80##.c - can't read CTR" |
| 17:55.21 | roxville | Arnald, i was just telling you that... i'm not a guru, that's all |
| 17:55.31 | Arnald | ok, cool ;) |
| 17:55.57 | roxville | :) |
| 17:56.30 | roxville | i try to be a nice guy, but i'm still learning linux |
| 17:56.37 | Arnald | roxville: and I'm just passing on my experiences as they happen, coz I will forget later! |
| 17:56.38 | ee_lars | hi all |
| 17:57.15 | Mutacion | qiubole ee_lars |
| 17:57.25 | Mutacion | rox, where i find the elive.torrent? xD |
| 17:57.53 | Arnald | Incidentally, looks like my xorg.conf was preserved from the install - I might have known, because I actually took the trouble to scp it to a server before rebooting |
| 17:58.07 | roxville | oh... |
| 17:59.48 | roxville | Mutacion, http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=1431 |
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| 18:01.34 | Mutacion | thanks rox |
| 18:01.47 | roxville | np |
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| 18:03.06 | Arnald | I think just defaulting to DHCP would be a good move, short of asking the question at install of course |
| 18:03.13 | roxville | ok, i gotta take my daughter out for a while... bbl |
| 18:03.21 | Mutacion | bai! |
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| 18:04.21 | roxville | yes Arnald i agree... thana had a reason for doing it this was... but i can't for my life remember what it was right now! |
| 18:04.27 | Arnald | If any devs are listening, I noticed an inconsistency with root access |
| 18:04.57 | Arnald | for sudo, you need to give the admin password, whereas for the graphical sudo equivalent, it's the root password |
| 18:10.32 | Arnald | anywaok cancel that - it must have been the live CD that used the admin password |
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| 18:13.29 | Elive_user48 | wow! |
| 18:13.45 | Arnald | excellent - up and browsing from fresh restart! |
| 18:15.20 | Elive_user48 | any plans to do suff with xlg? this desktop e17 is amaising |
| 18:15.57 | Mutacion | not yet Elive_user48 |
| 18:16.20 | Mutacion | xlg is still to fresh to put the hands on it :P |
| 18:16.30 | Elive_user48 | It has to go into some of the depper E libs |
| 18:16.55 | Elive_user48 | well suses glx is new but xgl quite old not? |
| 18:16.56 | LinuxNIT | whats xlg? |
| 18:17.29 | Cryovat | 3d accelleration for the desktop |
| 18:17.36 | LinuxNIT | ah |
| 18:17.37 | Cryovat | Novell released it a while ago |
| 18:17.43 | Cryovat | Real transparency, etc |
| 18:17.45 | Mutacion | xlg is like xorg but using 3D as native and a lot new things for 3d aceleration |
| 18:18.00 | Mutacion | Google : xgl + paris |
| 18:18.04 | Cryovat | Would check it out if only 1) It had a live CD 2) I had Nvidia ;) |
| 18:18.22 | Mutacion | lol xD |
| 18:18.24 | Cryovat | Supposedly, it runs pretty terrible on ATi |
| 18:18.28 | Mutacion | i only need the novell cd jojo |
| 18:21.15 | Cryovat | Jojo? |
| 18:22.45 | LinuxNIT | wow i didnt realize that sudo was set by default as "user ALL=(ALL) ALL" |
| 18:23.22 | Mutacion | jojo = haha |
| 18:23.30 | Cryovat | I see :) |
| 18:23.44 | LinuxNIT | whats the difference in jojo and jeje? |
| 18:23.48 | Mutacion | yeah thats new in elive.. the user u created has sudo |
| 18:24.12 | Mutacion | and jojo = jeje = jiji == hahaha |
| 18:24.13 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 18:24.17 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 18:24.19 | Mutacion | nd also jajaja = haha |
| 18:24.22 | LinuxNIT | got it |
| 18:24.31 | LinuxNIT | or hahaha |
| 18:25.01 | Mutacion | jiji |
| 18:25.19 | Mutacion | well like i can see.. ppl ur in love with elive :) |
| 18:25.29 | LinuxNIT | does Elive have a prgam to grapchically scan for wifinetworks? |
| 18:25.38 | Cryovat | I wish it'd work for me :/ |
| 18:25.57 | LinuxNIT | i saw networkconf for seting the essid and wep key but not for scanning |
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| 18:28.19 | Elive_user48 | btw I'm running using kqemu + qemu on gentoo. and works fast enough |
| 18:29.21 | Thanabusy | imagine then in a real machine keesj ;) |
| 18:29.46 | keesj | pretty usable I would say |
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| 18:31.03 | Thanabusy | hey Mutacion muta |
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| 18:31.27 | Mutacion | kiubole thaan :) |
| 18:31.34 | keesj | or perhaps pretty and usable |
| 18:31.38 | Mutacion | thana mi elive ya tiene 1024 de rsolucion :) jiji |
| 18:32.12 | Thanabusy | Mutacion he cambiado un poco el look de wiki (posicionamientos, espacios, tamaños principalmente), echale un vistazo a ver si le notas la diferencia y crees que es mejor asi |
| 18:32.48 | Mutacion | si ya postie orita en el wikki y no me acepto <br>, asi qe todo lo qe postie fue sin <br> :s |
| 18:32.53 | Thanabusy | keesj Elive installed is a lot better than the liveCD mode... its more big in "distro" than in "liveCD" |
| 18:33.17 | LinuxNIT | brb |
| 18:33.35 | Thanabusy | ahh, si Mutacion, le cambie la configuracion de eso, porque vi que no aceptaba los "enter", ahora si lo acepta, ahora es "medio html", creo que puedes meter cosas simples como links y cosas |
| 18:33.50 | Mutacion | okis..alrato lo modifico |
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| 18:33.54 | Mutacion | esqe tngo un bug xD haha |
| 18:34.19 | Thanabusy | un bug ? |
| 18:34.21 | Mutacion | ya no me deja correr ninguna aplicacion :s |
| 18:34.36 | Mutacion | amorfa@amorfa[~]$ oxine |
| 18:34.37 | Mutacion | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
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| 18:35.42 | Arnald | is there a reason why security updates are disabled? |
| 18:36.25 | Thanabusy | Mutacion desde tu user |
| 18:36.42 | Mutacion | sip ando en mi user |
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| 18:36.51 | Thanabusy | abre una consola nueva y haz: xhost + |
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| 18:37.43 | Mutacion | igual.. no me deja sale el mismo error |
| 18:40.40 | Thanabusy | pues no entiendo :/ |
| 18:40.42 | Thanabusy | por cierto Mutacion |
| 18:40.50 | Thanabusy | tu elegiste EXT3 en la instalacion, verdad ? |
| 18:42.17 | Mutacion | sip..fui uno de los qe le dijo no al otro xD |
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| 18:44.27 | Cryovat | All right, giving the live CD another go :) |
| 18:44.41 | Cryovat | Trying in VirtualPC this time around |
| 18:45.00 | Cryovat | I hope it can do with 256 mb ram |
| 18:45.22 | ostots | hola a todos, para que sirven los evas test? donde me muestran los resultados? |
| 18:46.03 | Thanabusy | Mutacion ese era el problema... de todas formas ahora ni preguntara, lo hara directamente en reiserfs ;) |
| 18:46.16 | Mutacion | Thanabusy, abri otro ttsy $startx -- :1 <-- alla no tngo ningun pob ejecutando aplicaciones graficas.. en :0 si ..no puedo hacer nada aqi |
| 18:46.49 | Thanabusy | ostots lanzandolo desde una consola, no sirven de gran cosa, mas bien de "demo", o para ver a cuanto renderiza tu maquina... |
| 18:46.51 | Mutacion | pq en reiserfs? no se.. yo siempre he usado ext3 y nunca habia tenido ningun pob :s |
| 18:47.25 | Thanabusy | poruqe con ext3/2 no instala bien (ya lo has visto bien;)) |
| 18:47.50 | Mutacion | bastante..en carne propia jiji |
| 18:48.00 | Thanabusy | Mutacion veamos.. tienes unas X, desde consola (fuera de X), lanzas unas segundas X con "startx /usr/bin/enlightenment -- :1" y cuando vuelves a la primera no puedes volvera lanzar nada dentro de ella ? |
| 18:48.05 | ostots | pero por ejemplo no me dice los fps... por cierto donde tiene esto el mixer?? supongo q notendre q instalarme ninguno... |
| 18:48.54 | Mutacion | ando en :0, y no habia hecho nada..y puff..ya no me dejo lanzar aplicaciones desde la terminal..ni desde la barra de iconos :s (ando en e17) |
| 18:49.19 | Thanabusy | ostots si lo dice, si esperas un poco te sale en la consola |
| 18:49.20 | Mutacion | y abri otro sistema grafico en :0 con e16 y alla estoy bien..ejecuto aplicaciones y aparecen.. |
| 18:49.26 | Thanabusy | ostots Elive 0.4 en elpanel |
| 18:49.50 | ostots | ok ok... lo lanzare desde consola.... asias |
| 18:49.55 | Begasus | bbl |
| 18:50.08 | Thanabusy | Mutacion no lo se, no tiene mucha logica tu problema... prueba de nuevo si puedes reproducirlo y si es asi, tendremos que buscar de donde viene ese problema |
| 18:50.10 | Cryovat | http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/829/argh4in.jpg |
| 18:50.17 | Cryovat | That didn't seem to work very well :/ |
| 18:50.22 | ostots | por cierto... he de reconocer q me esta dejando impresionado este livecd... hace tiempo q un live cd no me atraia... |
| 18:51.20 | Thanabusy | Cryovat no.. not looks good, you have a intel graphic card ? |
| 18:51.30 | Thanabusy | gracias ostots :) |
| 18:51.35 | Mutacion | nop, definitivamente no puedo hacer nada.. se me hace qe tndre qe deslogearme de e17 y reiniciar e17 |
| 18:51.38 | Cryovat | ATi X300 |
| 18:51.48 | Thanabusy | Cryovat do you have tried with the another drivers ? |
| 18:51.57 | Thanabusy | on the selection menu |
| 18:51.59 | Cryovat | Trying to boot it with Graphics Problems |
| 18:52.10 | Cryovat | Will know how it goes in a momenet |
| 18:52.17 | Thanabusy | Mutacion claro, vuelvelo a probar todo saliendo de todas las X a ver que sucede, a ver si vuelve a pasar |
| 18:52.28 | Cryovat | It doesn't like my hardware, so I'm booting it on VirtualPC |
| 18:52.44 | Thanabusy | apt virtualpc |
| 18:52.55 | Thanabusy | in a macos machine ? |
| 18:53.11 | Cryovat | XP Pro |
| 18:53.45 | Thanabusy | but... in pure hardware (no emulate), not works good ? you have tried with the diferents options on the ATI menu to appears on the boot ? |
| 18:53.57 | Mutacion | ayo!! |
| 18:54.04 | Cryovat | There's some other weird problems |
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| 18:54.18 | Cryovat | For instance, it doesn't register the laptop keyboard, only an USB one |
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| 18:54.45 | Cryovat | I must confess I didn't try alternate video drivers then |
| 18:54.54 | Mutacion | mmm.. todo volvio a la normalidad.. |
| 18:55.54 | Cryovat | Yay |
| 18:55.57 | Cryovat | Booted fine now :) |
| 18:56.40 | Mutacion | brb.. |
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| 19:02.43 | pale_horse | Cryovat what lappy you using, I was afk |
| 19:03.28 | Cryovat | Dell Inspiron 6000 |
| 19:03.45 | Cryovat | Gotten it to work in VirtualPC though :) |
| 19:04.21 | Cryovat | Runs fine there, a wee bit choppy but that's to be expected |
| 19:04.31 | pale_horse | I'll see today how it works with a presario V2000Z |
| 19:05.30 | Cryovat | Ok :) |
| 19:05.30 | Cryovat | Ick |
| 19:05.44 | Cryovat | GTK1 isn't pretty D: |
| 19:08.27 | pale_horse | gtk1 is butt ugly |
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| 19:15.03 | ostots | hasta otra... se va a quedar el elive instalado en este portatil... :-P |
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| 19:32.56 | _tsa | what config file is it i have to change to setup another port when connecting to ssh |
| 19:33.01 | _tsa | i want to use another one then 22 |
| 19:35.36 | Thanabusy | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.19 | _tsa | and how do i install a ssh server on elive ?!.. says that ssh is installed but cant connect |
| 19:37.04 | Thanabusy | you are on the liveCD mode ? |
| 19:37.19 | _tsa | yeah |
| 19:38.18 | Thanabusy | then you need to activate ssh ( /etc/init.d/ssh start ) , remember to the password of root is "elive", i recomend to change it.. its not enabled by default because is a big fault of security, imagine you all "elive_users" enterin'g on this channel with ssh enabled and the password of root is "elive" :) |
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| 19:39.14 | _tsa | thanks Thanabusy |
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| 19:43.20 | Cryov4t | Now this is more like it :D |
| 19:43.23 | _tsa | Hmm.. when i have edited the things i need like port etc. and save and open putty it connectes (i guess) and you just see a black screen in putty and no nothing like asking for pwd/username |
| 19:44.14 | Cryov4t | The laptop keyboard/mouse still doesn't work, but seems to behave fine otherwise when booting with VESA. :) |
| 19:45.31 | Cryov4t | This is by far the nicest Linux desktop I've tried :) |
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| 19:47.57 | Cryovat | The ELive theme for E17 is wonderful :) |
| 19:49.18 | Thanabusy | Cryovat and its just a "fast hack between another themes" ;) its in the TODO list write a complete own "elive theme" |
| 19:50.01 | Thanabusy | _tsa after edit: /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 19:50.03 | Cryovat | I just have one tiny request |
| 19:50.30 | Arnald | Oh dear, I have "bricked" my installation . . . anyone know how to switch to a VT in VMWare? |
| 19:50.40 | Cryovat | Please make an alternative version of the Elive theme with a wee bit thicker title bar and the GTK2 font. :) |
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| 19:57.17 | Arnald | OK I am in on ssh, never mind |
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| 19:59.57 | Cryovat | Well, that concludes this trifle |
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| 20:01.36 | Elive_user | sup |
| 20:01.41 | Elive_user | loser |
| 20:01.54 | Elive_user | nhjjxfjhsjsfhjjsjg |
| 20:02.02 | Elive_user | hi |
| 20:03.30 | LinuxNIT | what site has the biggest selection of e17 themes |
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| 20:05.56 | Arnald | Looks like there is a dbus conflict between debian and elive |
| 20:06.06 | Arnald | which breaks dist-upgrade |
| 20:07.26 | Arnald | I mean the other way round |
| 20:07.34 | Thanabusy | Arnald yes, but is all upgraded |
| 20:07.38 | Thanabusy | when you have make a dist-upgrade ? |
| 20:08.19 | Arnald | no, apt-get says that dbus-glib-1 libhal-storage0 libhal0 are broken |
| 20:08.29 | Arnald | I'm looking into resolving this ATM |
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| 20:08.53 | Arnald | and I can't log into X any more |
| 20:09.08 | Arnald | I'm assuming the two things are related |
| 20:10.10 | Arnald | elive is libhal0 and debian is libhal1 by the looks of things |
| 20:10.13 | ElonGlasb | Yes I had the same problem couldn't login X after dist-upgrade but I could when I used the old nvidia driver |
| 20:10.48 | Thanabusy | Arnald apt-get update ; apt-get install ivman |
| 20:10.53 | Arnald | ah, let me compare my xorg.conf with the one I saved from the live CD . . . |
| 20:11.16 | Thanabusy | ElonGlasb Elive PRE or BETA ? |
| 20:11.26 | ElonGlasb | Pre |
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| 20:12.11 | ElonGlasb | It also deleted base-config hal and ivman |
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| 20:12.34 | Arnald | Thanabusy: does not seem to exist on debian - what is it? |
| 20:12.42 | Arnald | apparently base-config is obsolete |
| 20:12.44 | Thanabusy | Arnald in the idefix repository |
| 20:12.54 | Arnald | my debian install deleted it this morning |
| 20:13.06 | Thanabusy | ElonGlasb mmh, i have set the nvidia-glx package on "not upgrade", do you have upgraded it? if you upgrade you have problemes |
| 20:13.56 | Arnald | Thanabusy: I can see it in apt-get, just wondered what it was |
| 20:13.57 | Thanabusy | Arnald what candidate you have on "apt-cache policy ivman" ? |
| 20:13.58 | Arnald | c ivman - daemon to auto-mount and manage media devi |
| 20:14.09 | Arnald | Candidate: 0.6.3-4elive1 |
| 20:14.25 | ElonGlasb | I did an dist-upgrade I had problems so just reinstall and only upgrade |
| 20:14.26 | Arnald | is that OK? |
| 20:14.55 | Arnald | ElonGlasb: I have a backup of the install, so I may as well see it this can be fixed |
| 20:17.08 | Arnald | OK I think I need to check xorg.conf |
| 20:17.38 | Thanabusy | Arnald yes, this is the good version... this is the candidate but... the installed package is the same version ? |
| 20:18.25 | Arnald | i ivman 0.6.3-4elive1 daemon to auto-mount and manage media devices |
| 20:18.37 | Arnald | looks OK |
| 20:19.09 | Thanabusy | ok... mmmh, what is your problem then ? |
| 20:19.28 | Thanabusy | i have look upgrades of hal and dbus and i have build this version for use the actual versions of debian |
| 20:22.06 | Arnald | my problem is I can't log in to X |
| 20:22.24 | Arnald | and X was upgraded during the dist-upgrade |
| 20:22.34 | Arnald | and the dist-upgrade left a broken package |
| 20:22.44 | Thanabusy | aha |
| 20:22.49 | Arnald | so I wanted to fix that first |
| 20:22.57 | Thanabusy | after you enter the pass on entrance, you return to entrance ? |
| 20:23.06 | Arnald | yes |
| 20:23.10 | Thanabusy | what is this broken package ? |
| 20:23.21 | Arnald | usually ther'd be .xsession-errors file in ~ to look at |
| 20:23.26 | Thanabusy | mmmh, show me your: cat /etc/entrance-lang |
| 20:23.36 | Thanabusy | /etc/entrance_lang |
| 20:23.46 | Arnald | Thanabusy: we've fixed all that |
| 20:24.01 | Arnald | damn I've restarted, hang on . . . |
| 20:24.20 | Thanabusy | this is a important file for the login on X Arnald |
| 20:24.44 | Arnald | I'm sure it is |
| 20:24.44 | Arnald | ;) |
| 20:24.55 | Arnald | one moment please . . . |
| 20:25.10 | Thanabusy | ok |
| 20:26.37 | Arnald | empty |
| 20:26.45 | Thanabusy | ahá |
| 20:26.55 | Thanabusy | ok, cat /etc/environment |
| 20:27.00 | Arnald | is it a short file? |
| 20:27.15 | Arnald | also empty |
| 20:27.38 | Thanabusy | this is the problem |
| 20:27.44 | Thanabusy | how is configured their locales ? |
| 20:28.03 | Thanabusy | in the dist-ugprade you have selected "none" for the locales ? |
| 20:28.06 | Arnald | I selected one en_GB during the upgrade |
| 20:28.16 | Arnald | and en_GB instead of none |
| 20:28.16 | Thanabusy | mmmh |
| 20:28.20 | Thanabusy | do you have tried a reboot ? |
| 20:28.33 | Arnald | but I could aways dpkg-reconfigure locales if that is the problem |
| 20:28.40 | Arnald | Thanabusy: yeah just now ;) |
| 20:28.59 | Thanabusy | ok, is posible to works after the reboot |
| 20:29.00 | Arnald | it was a HUGE upgrade BTW |
| 20:29.04 | Arnald | no |
| 20:29.19 | Arnald | I meant it had just come back and I'd tried it |
| 20:29.24 | Thanabusy | in any case, i think to its good to make a little "fix" to this.. in the case of the file is empty |
| 20:29.34 | Thanabusy | mmh, reconfigure your locales then |
| 20:29.39 | Thanabusy | dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 20:29.45 | Arnald | no prob, thanks |
| 20:29.48 | Thanabusy | and look again /etc/environment |
| 20:30.57 | Arnald | LANG=en_GB |
| 20:31.07 | Thanabusy | perfect |
| 20:31.07 | Arnald | nothing in the entrance file though |
| 20:31.13 | Thanabusy | control-alt-backspace on entrance and login |
| 20:31.31 | Arnald | ok doing it now |
| 20:31.39 | Thanabusy | or maybe stop the daemon, kill entrance and start the daemon again |
| 20:32.02 | Arnald | bingo - grate job, thanks |
| 20:32.08 | Thanabusy | welcome :) |
| 20:32.09 | Arnald | great I mean ;) |
| 20:32.12 | Thanabusy | i fix this bug in any case |
| 20:32.21 | Thanabusy | for if not exist the variable on /etc/environment |
| 20:32.28 | Thanabusy | you use a english interface ? |
| 20:32.32 | Arnald | excellent |
| 20:32.34 | Arnald | yes |
| 20:32.42 | Thanabusy | what is your exact LANG variable ? |
| 20:32.56 | Arnald | now entrance_lang has it too |
| 20:33.07 | Arnald | LANG=en_GB |
| 20:33.18 | Thanabusy | only this ? ok, i put this for default... |
| 20:33.40 | Arnald | well it was empty before |
| 20:33.48 | Arnald | oh I see ;) |
| 20:34.10 | Arnald | well it's fine for the UK ;) |
| 20:34.36 | Arnald | must admit I find locales extremely confusing |
| 20:34.47 | LinuxNIT | Thanabusy, do you know if you can make engage either autohide or surface when the cursor hits the bottom of the screen? |
| 20:34.57 | Arnald | as an english speaker |
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| 20:37.23 | Thanabusy | apt x en es do you know if you can make engage either autohide or surface when the cursor hits the bottom of the screen? |
| 20:37.53 | Mutacion | captaste thana? |
| 20:38.18 | Thanabusy | mmmh, no Mutacion |
| 20:38.28 | ElonGlasb | Thanabusy do you think the problem exist because it doesn't reconfigure locales when dist-upgrade? |
| 20:38.49 | Mutacion | traduccion : se puede hacer qe engage pueda ser 'autohide' (qe se esconda solito) y cuando alguien pase el cursor 'donde deberia de tar engage' este apareceria de abajo del monitor |
| 20:38.56 | Thanabusy | ElonGlasb in some part, but i fix this permanently (maximum you need a simple reboot), for the official release |
| 20:39.06 | Thanabusy | ElonGlasb do youhave entrance running ? |
| 20:39.23 | ElonGlasb | Not now I will run |
| 20:39.33 | Thanabusy | ah.. i don't think LinuxNIT |
| 20:39.42 | LinuxNIT | ok thanks |
| 20:40.53 | Mutacion | maybe next time LinuxNIT :) xD |
| 20:41.04 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 20:41.06 | ElonGlasb | Thanabusy it runs without problems why? |
| 20:41.29 | Thanabusy | ElonGlasb if entrance runs without problems but not login is a good news :) |
| 20:41.42 | Thanabusy | i have little afraid when you have say "nvidia" |
| 20:41.44 | Thanabusy | but its ok :) |
| 20:42.07 | Thanabusy | ElonGlasb wait some minutes to i fix and try just a upgrade of entrance, then you test me if it repairs the bug automatically ;) |
| 20:42.34 | ElonGlasb | Ah I forgot to say that this install is WITHOUT dist-upgrade!! |
| 20:42.57 | Thanabusy | hum |
| 20:43.14 | Thanabusy | exist this posibility... you have reconfigure the language or any similar tthing with the language ? |
| 20:43.35 | ElonGlasb | I had this problem before and so I still didn't do a dist-upgrade now. |
| 20:44.29 | Thanabusy | no... the installation needs to works good by default |
| 20:44.35 | Thanabusy | ElonGlasb cat /etc/entrance_lang |
| 20:46.02 | ElonGlasb | lANG=nl@euro |
| 20:46.19 | Thanabusy | o_O |
| 20:46.34 | Thanabusy | LANG=nl@euro just only ? |
| 20:47.15 | ElonGlasb | Yes I only choose to reconfigure my language but I had the possibility to do all |
| 20:48.12 | Thanabusy | mmmh, and how you has configured your language ? |
| 20:48.35 | Thanabusy | via elpanel ? |
| 20:48.46 | ElonGlasb | At the dist upgrade there came this options to reconfigure and choose |
| 20:49.09 | ElonGlasb | No by Alt-ctrl-f1 |
| 20:49.36 | Thanabusy | mmmh, via debonconf ? the configuration of the packages of debian ? when ask ? mmmh... this variable is very strange.. |
| 20:49.41 | ElonGlasb | It gave this possibility while it was upgrading |
| 20:49.56 | Arnald | Thanabusy: BTW I noted earlier that the debian security update site is disabled - are you aware? |
| 20:51.00 | Thanabusy | Arnald yes, i have added the debian security repo line on the sources.list, but disabled... just because i don't know it (i don't have used it any time), and just... exists, if any person like to enable is for this :) |
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| 20:51.37 | Arnald | I used it, for what it's wirth |
| 20:51.49 | Arnald | worth (not a pascal user) |
| 20:52.01 | ElonGlasb | The exact name off the variable was LANG=nl_NL@euro |
| 20:52.32 | Thanabusy | ah... this is good then ElonGlasb |
| 20:52.46 | Thanabusy | if you type "control-alt-backspace" on entrance you can't posible to login ? |
| 20:53.32 | ElonGlasb | Hmm I guess then this x-chat will be broken? |
| 20:53.45 | Thanabusy | xchat ? |
| 20:53.47 | ElonGlasb | Must try? |
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| 20:54.11 | Thanabusy | what is the problem with xchat ? |
| 20:54.16 | Thanabusy | maybe you don't has network |
| 20:54.28 | ElonGlasb | Only one comp now |
| 20:55.00 | Thanabusy | try to ping google for look your network |
| 20:55.32 | Gwildor | o/ |
| 20:58.07 | ElonGlasb | Network is ok. I mean I can't test it now I guess when do that I will be logout. |
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| 21:02.42 | ElonGlasb | Uhm that was what I meant, been logged out |
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| 21:09.47 | ElonGlasb | Thanabusy , I mean the only thing I noticed when I did a dist upgrade (with alt-ctrl-f1) I had a X problem entrance couldn't come up. |
| 21:10.27 | Thanabusy | now works good ElonGlasb ? |
| 21:10.45 | ElonGlasb | But I didn't have it when I did a reinstall and only upgrade, so now it works good |
| 21:11.34 | ElonGlasb | I am just not sure what will be when I do a dist-upgrade |
| 21:14.08 | ElonGlasb | I was just thinking that something goes wrong with dist-upgrade especially when using new nvidia driver |
| 21:15.14 | Gwildor | Elive_user2, in my experience, i never dist-upgrade derivitives (based on...) i normally jsut upgrade the packages i need/want |
| 21:15.17 | Gwildor | GRR |
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| 21:15.25 | Gwildor | that was to ElonGlasb |
| 21:15.42 | ElonGlasb | I was just wondering, No need for me to do now because everything works great now how it is! |
| 21:15.54 | Gwildor | ahh |
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| 21:16.23 | Gwildor | well, do it from synaptic, the changes are a bit easier to read....to tell you whats gonnag et upgraded.......no telling what will break/fix, till you actually do it |
| 21:18.09 | ElonGlasb | Gwildor Yeah I know but in the forums you read a lot about people doing it, so it is good to know what happens. |
| 21:18.10 | _tsa | Gwildor :) |
| 21:18.23 | eightball | I did it through apr and I don't tink I broke anything, if that's any help |
| 21:18.45 | eightball | oops, I meant APT |
| 21:20.37 | Gwildor | eightball, how big of an upgrade was it? |
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| 21:25.27 | Gwildor | gotta go, laters |
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| 21:30.19 | ElonGlasb | Gotto go too, Cya. |
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| 21:48.33 | cornelius[cz] | 'night |
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| 21:52.30 | Arnald | I've now got a different entrance screen, with no sessions defined - anyone seen this - is it a different entrance version? |
| 21:53.31 | Arnald | and more importantly I can't log in any more |
| 21:53.44 | Arnald | except by using ssh |
| 21:56.59 | Arnald | oh I think I've seen something |
| 21:58.51 | Arnald | . . .but I still can't log in |
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| 22:02.20 | Begasus | still having probs with resolution here ... |
| 22:03.39 | Thanabusy | Begasus elpanel |
| 22:03.50 | Begasus | control pannel? |
| 22:03.57 | Thanabusy | yes, the Elive control panel |
| 22:04.09 | Begasus | no luck so far there ... |
| 22:04.59 | Begasus | retrying ... |
| 22:05.09 | Thanabusy | Arnald what ? |
| 22:05.15 | Begasus | there should be an option to reboot the pc there ... |
| 22:05.43 | Arnald | Thanabusy: I seem to be getting the wrong version of entrance (theme) |
| 22:05.58 | Arnald | there is no e16/e17 selection |
| 22:06.11 | Begasus | in the login screen Arnald |
| 22:06.14 | Arnald | and if I try to log in I get a red padlock |
| 22:06.29 | Begasus | you see a small icon in the left buttom corner |
| 22:06.43 | Thanabusy | Arnald yes, maybe... taillights is broken for this |
| 22:06.44 | Begasus | click on it and you an sellect e16 or e17 |
| 22:06.47 | Arnald | that looks like a reboot button? |
| 22:06.53 | Arnald | ok |
| 22:07.11 | Begasus | arghhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 22:07.12 | Arnald | I need to rename a few files the I'tt restart |
| 22:07.25 | Begasus | still in 640x480 mode :S |
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| 22:09.52 | Arnald | well it looks like a reboot button and quacks like a reboot button . . . |
| 22:10.25 | Begasus | the one in the login screen? |
| 22:10.34 | Arnald | Thanabusy: so can I get back to the proper entrance theme? |
| 22:10.36 | Begasus | not the shutdown icon on the right ;) |
| 22:10.39 | Arnald | Begasus: yes |
| 22:10.50 | Arnald | no, the reboot button on the left |
| 22:11.01 | Thanabusy | Arnald elpanel |
| 22:11.22 | Arnald | Thanabusy: OK I'll see where it went . . . |
| 22:11.33 | Thanabusy | you can't login in any WM ? |
| 22:11.35 | Begasus | I have a Elive icon with E-16 or E-17 there .. |
| 22:12.00 | Arnald | Thanabusy: I can't get to any WM |
| 22:12.01 | Begasus | this is looking so great .. but not in this resolution .. :( |
| 22:12.13 | Arnald | Begasus: that's what I want to get bak to |
| 22:12.23 | Arnald | that's the whole problem |
| 22:12.26 | Thanabusy | Arnald go to /usr/share/entrance/, build the script and put in on /etc |
| 22:12.29 | Thanabusy | the cfg file |
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| 22:13.17 | Arnald | Thanabusy: there's already a config file there - is that what it's supposed to use? |
| 22:13.27 | Thanabusy | yes, the cfg |
| 22:13.58 | Arnald | but if I run the script I'll overwrite it won't I - is that OK? |
| 22:14.11 | Thanabusy | yes, its ok |
| 22:14.31 | Thanabusy | copy the .cfg file to /etc after run the script |
| 22:14.51 | Arnald | I just ran it and diffed it aginst the old one - they're identical |
| 22:14.58 | Arnald | OK |
| 22:15.30 | Arnald | OK I've copied it - it was empty! |
| 22:15.54 | Arnald | now rebooting |
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| 22:16.42 | Arnald | Thanabusy: I think that one was my fault - sorry! Hope there aren't other files that will be lost if the disk fills up ;) |
| 22:17.58 | Arnald | Thanabusy: it's back! thanks very much |
| 22:18.03 | Thanabusy | not need reboot... just reload entrance (control-alt-backspace) |
| 22:18.29 | Arnald | well I've done it now, but I get the point ;) |
| 22:19.42 | Arnald | oooh, a new elive theme |
| 22:20.11 | Arnald | there's a speed gauge and a clock that weren't there before |
| 22:21.58 | Thanabusy | Elive theme ? where ? |
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| 22:22.19 | Arnald | well I logged in and got a dialogue saying my configs had been reset |
| 22:22.45 | Arnald | so I was in the default theme, I changed it to elive and it seemed to have two extra items |
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| 22:25.24 | Elive_user | \neo-sidious |
| 22:25.43 | Begasus | ow feck .. |
| 22:30.54 | Arnald | cool, I now have a 1.7GB VMWare image, with working suspend ;) |
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| 22:39.10 | roxville | Arnald, those extra items would be a couple of the e17 modules |
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| 22:39.34 | roxville | everything you see on the desktop, except the background, is a module |
| 22:39.37 | Arnald | yes, I've just found the module config screen |
| 22:39.43 | roxville | ok, cool |
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| 22:39.53 | Arnald | they must have appeared when my config was reset |
| 22:40.06 | Begasus | gonna download the ubuntu cd and see if I still can get past the resolution isseu .. |
| 22:40.09 | roxville | Arnald, the wise thing to do right now, is to keep them to a minimum |
| 22:40.35 | roxville | yes, they probably did, and started with a "clean sheet" |
| 22:40.40 | Arnald | yes, I don't need the laptop stuff, but there might be one or two that I like in the list |
| 22:41.00 | roxville | there are BIG problems with the modules right now |
| 22:41.06 | Arnald | anyway, I have a backup now, so I fear not ;) |
| 22:41.26 | roxville | so you may experience more segfaults if you use even just a couple of modules |
| 22:41.31 | roxville | lol, ok |
| 22:41.34 | Arnald | that's why VMWare is so good for this stuff |
| 22:41.41 | roxville | yep |
| 22:42.05 | Arnald | OK thanks all, back to exploring . . . |
| 22:42.33 | roxville | e17 is under heavier development now, than it was just one or two months ago... and right now... things are unfortunately more unstable |
| 22:42.49 | roxville | not good for the success of elive, i'm afraid |
| 22:43.13 | Arnald | well I want to know what some of those wierd names mean ;) |
| 22:43.27 | roxville | like what? |
| 22:43.34 | Arnald | roxville: it's just like tracking any unstable branch |
| 22:43.40 | Arnald | good times and bad |
| 22:43.44 | roxville | yes |
| 22:44.00 | Arnald | would the devs rather try to freeze and debug? ;) |
| 22:44.18 | roxville | but a lot of newbie users see elive and think WOW! cool! and they try it, and CRASH! |
| 22:44.28 | roxville | just to add a few sounds fx |
| 22:45.32 | Arnald | dropshadow embrace emu engage ibar ibox itray randr - that'll do for starters ;) |
| 22:45.47 | roxville | lol, ok |
| 22:46.30 | roxville | just over a week ago even the drop shadow was horrible... caused all kijds of weird effects |
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| 22:48.37 | Mutacion | how do i change wallpapers under e17.. i cp my wallpapers to ~/.e/e/backgrounds |
| 22:48.39 | pr0t0cod7 | E17 has been pretty stable for me at any moment |
| 22:48.53 | pr0t0cod7 | i think Thana messed up with the config and the modules |
| 22:49.06 | Mutacion | and they dosent apper.. wich was the command to put a wallpaper manually? |
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| 22:51.09 | pr0t0cod7 | Mutacion: e17 takes edj as backgrounds not jpg/png - use e17setroot, enlightenmen_remote ot click "Select another image" in the bg selector dialog |
| 22:51.26 | roxville | Mutacion, with the last upgrade you can choose from the e17 config menu |
| 22:51.30 | Mutacion | andale e17setroot :)\ |
| 22:51.53 | Mutacion | im using beta :P i dont want to upgrade jiji..until a few weeks |
| 22:52.07 | pr0t0cod7 | apt x fr es corriger |
| 22:52.34 | pr0t0cod7 | hmm.. |
| 22:53.11 | Arnald | roxville: I thought e17 was supposed to crash - newbies should stick to crashing e16 ;) |
| 22:53.35 | roxville | Arnald, it is... but tell them that |
| 22:53.37 | Arnald | BTW just had my first segfault ;) |
| 22:53.48 | roxville | it don't matter how many warnings we put up |
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| 22:54.22 | Arnald | roxville: it's going to happen - nothing can save you ;) |
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| 22:54.39 | Arnald | if that helps |
| 22:54.56 | pr0t0cod7 | most of the segfaults are due to an old config or old/bad modules |
| 22:55.14 | pr0t0cod7 | or using efm :P |
| 22:55.24 | Mutacion | i love my elive :) |
| 22:55.33 | roxville | hey eshep |
| 22:55.39 | Mutacion | thana thana! im so happy..that hambrita has desapeared :P |
| 22:55.48 | Mutacion | rox rox! im so happy..that hambrita has desapeared :P |
| 22:55.48 | roxville | LOL |
| 22:55.48 | Begasus | hey Thanabusy belgium too? |
| 22:55.49 | Arnald | Ubuntu needs to watch out! |
| 22:55.50 | eshep | yo |
| 22:56.05 | roxville | oh, Mutacion , the hambrita module is gone? |
| 22:56.21 | Mutacion | ubuntu is for mortals :).. elive is for poets :) |
| 22:56.33 | roxville | yep Begasus elive is developed in... belgium :) |
| 22:56.40 | Mutacion | haha yeah :P hambrita module is unloaded jiji |
| 22:56.55 | Begasus | and why am I not informed? :P |
| 22:57.01 | roxville | hehe |
| 22:57.06 | Mutacion | cause u think ask it before jiji |
| 22:57.20 | Arnald | elive is probably more up against kanotix I reckon |
| 22:57.20 | Begasus | french part or dutch part ? |
| 22:57.20 | Mutacion | u didnt ask it before |
| 22:57.35 | roxville | eshep, you doing ok? |
| 22:57.48 | roxville | Begasus, french |
| 22:58.04 | Begasus | nice ;) |
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| 22:58.11 | eshep | not bad, just got all new stuff in my computer saturday night... |
| 22:58.22 | Mutacion | ups :P e17 crashed lol |
| 22:58.23 | roxville | don't try dutch with thana... he's /spanish/belgian i believe... grew up in spain... i think |
| 22:58.24 | Mutacion | but i still luv e17 too jiji |
| 22:58.38 | Mutacion | and he loves tacos :P |
| 22:58.46 | Begasus | np I'll stick with english ;) |
| 22:58.52 | Mutacion | ups i think hambrita module was enable hahaha |
| 22:58.53 | Begasus | my french is not good enough ;) |
| 22:59.39 | Mutacion | mm.. |
| 22:59.45 | roxville | lol Mutacion |
| 23:00.14 | Begasus | so Thanabusy is the man behind this all? |
| 23:00.14 | roxville | i think the hambrita module is what is causing ALL the crashes... even if it's not enabled |
| 23:00.21 | Mutacion | hahahaha |
| 23:00.22 | roxville | yes |
| 23:00.46 | Mutacion | haha i think hambrita is also on init.d xD |
| 23:00.56 | roxville | he is the only dev... the rest of us are just trying to help out a little... because we LOVE elive |
| 23:01.01 | Begasus | well he has to have a good team behind him to pull this one ... imho |
| 23:01.16 | Begasus | nice |
| 23:01.24 | Begasus | the only actual dev? |
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| 23:02.30 | roxville | Begasus, yep |
| 23:02.36 | Thanabusy | Begasus yes, i living on belgium |
| 23:02.53 | Begasus | me to Thanabusy ;) |
| 23:03.07 | Thanabusy | good, from where part ? |
| 23:03.12 | Begasus | limbourg |
| 23:03.15 | roxville | you guys even have the same ISP! |
| 23:03.21 | roxville | hehe |
| 23:03.23 | Begasus | yep same skynet ;) |
| 23:03.36 | Thanabusy | hehehe |
| 23:03.59 | Thanabusy | limbourg ?mmmh, i don't know very where is.. im spanish origin, i don't know very belgium hehe |
| 23:04.09 | Begasus | Limburg ... |
| 23:04.27 | Begasus | dutch part in the east |
| 23:04.28 | roxville | it's a small world... two belgians, living in belgium sharing the same belgian isp... |
| 23:04.38 | Lightning_ThB | XD |
| 23:04.45 | Begasus | close to the netherlands and germany |
| 23:05.15 | Begasus | :P |
| 23:05.24 | Begasus | and meeting here on freenode ;) |
| 23:05.55 | roxville | pr0t0cod7, can you toss me a bottle? |
| 23:06.03 | Lightning_ThB | I'm a Brazilian... the developer is Belgian... There are some North-Americans... |
| 23:06.25 | Begasus | in the OS comunity there are no boundries ;) |
| 23:06.26 | roxville | i'm from sweden, living in the u.s. |
| 23:06.46 | Begasus | but it's always nice to meet a fellow resident ;) |
| 23:06.48 | Lightning_ThB | That's the best thing about internet... |
| 23:06.53 | roxville | yep |
| 23:07.20 | roxville | awwww that's so sweet! |
| 23:07.32 | Lightning_ThB | XD |
| 23:07.52 | Begasus | I only hope that I can use that xorg.conf file from the ubuntu live cd to enjoy bigger resolution ... |
| 23:08.03 | roxville | sorry dude... |
| 23:08.03 | Begasus | eek |
| 23:08.08 | pr0t0cod7 | lol |
| 23:08.23 | Thanabusy | oh, im close to... holand (i think), im on liege |
| 23:08.37 | Begasus | not that far from here then Thanabusy |
| 23:08.54 | Begasus | I've been doing some work a few times last year in liege |
| 23:09.44 | Thanabusy | computers* work ? |
| 23:09.47 | Begasus | but that's a big city ... |
| 23:09.56 | Thanabusy | yes |
| 23:10.00 | Begasus | nope ... replacing windows and doors |
| 23:11.08 | Begasus | what is making Elive so differant then any other system running Enlightment? |
| 23:11.41 | Lightning_ThB | I like Skol (Brazilian beer brand)... mostly because the best beers are too expensive (for someone who likes drinking 3-5 bottles in a row) |
| 23:11.43 | Begasus | seen some nice screenies from SymphonyOS too .. (but it's not so far devoloped as Elive imho) |
| 23:12.17 | Lightning_ThB | There are no other systems that is truly Enlightment-directed |
| 23:13.54 | Begasus | well if I get this thing in the right resolution I'll be posting a news on bebug ... :) |
| 23:16.35 | GPLGeek | which driver is used with the ati cards? fgrlx or a non-accel one? |
| 23:17.20 | Begasus | if I knew I wouldn't have the problem here ... |
| 23:18.18 | GPLGeek | I guess i can boot it and find out in a min. |
| 23:18.24 | GPLGeek | my second system is broke |
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| 23:37.25 | Begasus | yeay!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:37.29 | Begasus | that it !!! |
| 23:37.35 | Begasus | 1600x1200 ;) |
| 23:39.49 | Begasus | switched to 1280x1024 .. better resolution for a 21 inch monitor ;) |
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| 23:58.01 | badblody | Thanabusy, http://hispamp3.com/noticias/noticia.php?noticia=20060212110929 |
| 23:59.26 | egrub | Elive 0.3 es una distribuci?n Gnu/Linux basada en el gestor de ventanas Enlightenment 16 y 17, con una selecci?n del mejor software disponible para el mundo Gnu/Linux. |
| 23:59.29 | egrub | :) |
