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| 00:04.54 | Elive_user70 | como intalo esta mugrer |
| 00:05.14 | Begasus | g'night |
| 00:05.21 | GPLGeek | i forgot how to send fluxbox to one window and E16 to another. |
| 00:05.38 | GPLGeek | there was a way |
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| 00:06.27 | LinuxNIT- | is apt-key specific to debian testing? |
| 00:08.46 | dererk | LinuxNIT, of course not |
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| 00:09.41 | LinuxNIT | hmm cause im in stable and its not here |
| 00:10.40 | dererk | LinuxNIT, maybe it's included in the package apt-utils |
| 00:11.02 | LinuxNIT | i have that installed |
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| 00:13.36 | Jambon | could some one explain to me the difference (which I'm sure is pretty big, but I'm curious anyway), between the way quartz extreme renders things and the way e does it? |
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| 00:16.16 | LinuxNIT- | dererk, any other ideas? |
| 00:17.29 | dererk | LinuxNIT, Sorry, I got halted |
| 00:17.37 | dererk | LinuxNIT, What did you say? |
| 00:17.52 | LinuxNIT | i have apt-utils installed any other ideas? |
| 00:17.59 | LinuxNIT | #debian is ignoring me |
| 00:18.02 | LinuxNIT | grrrr |
| 00:19.50 | dererk | LinuxNIT, Umm, wait |
| 00:19.54 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 00:20.19 | dererk | LinuxNIT, I'm looking at a mail which says that in Sarge isn't available that package |
| 00:20.34 | LinuxNIT | what package is it? |
| 00:20.35 | dererk | I have compiled it then |
| 00:21.06 | dererk | It says there isn't a package too |
| 00:21.08 | dererk | sorry |
| 00:21.15 | dererk | I remember used it |
| 00:21.21 | LinuxNIT | does it say what it is a part of? |
| 00:21.28 | dererk | don't know how did I |
| 00:21.36 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 00:21.38 | LinuxNIT | grrrrrrrrrr |
| 00:21.39 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 00:21.44 | LinuxNIT | thanks man |
| 00:22.18 | dererk | Sorry |
| 00:22.27 | LinuxNIT | no worries |
| 00:22.35 | LinuxNIT | thanks for tryin |
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| 00:49.55 | quamaretto | What does the installer require for the root partition? Do you really need 2.5 gigs? |
| 00:54.41 | Mutacion | quamaretto, yes |
| 00:55.04 | quamaretto | Kay |
| 00:55.40 | Mutacion | when u install elive u need to format in.. mm.. frs i think |
| 00:56.07 | Mutacion | i dont remember the name.. but elive works better with frs format.. reizefs? i dunno the exact name jiji |
| 00:56.29 | quamaretto | Reiserfs? I was planning on it. |
| 00:56.44 | Mutacion | :) |
| 00:57.56 | Jambon | which version of reiser it it running? |
| 00:58.04 | Jambon | and by the way, hola Mutacion |
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| 01:04.34 | varsendagger | hey what is elive built on? |
| 01:05.37 | Jambon | debian etch |
| 01:05.41 | dererk | could you be more specific? |
| 01:05.47 | Jambon | or debian testing if you prefer |
| 01:06.11 | dererk | there's four different answers for that really |
| 01:06.18 | dererk | kernel 2.6.12 |
| 01:06.21 | dererk | debian etch |
| 01:06.24 | dererk | morphix |
| 01:06.28 | varsendagger | i want to cool |
| 01:06.43 | Jambon | ?? |
| 01:06.46 | dererk | ? |
| 01:06.51 | Jambon | ??? |
| 01:06.55 | dererk | ?? |
| 01:06.57 | dererk | ? |
| 01:06.59 | dererk | ??? |
| 01:07.03 | Jambon | ??????????????????? |
| 01:07.29 | dererk | hohoho |
| 01:07.32 | varsendagger | . no no i wnat to install variCAD, and it doesn't work with my ubuntu |
| 01:07.36 | Jambon | sorry m but i'm not unitarian |
| 01:07.49 | dererk | Jambon, hohoho |
| 01:07.58 | Jambon | ok santa |
| 01:08.14 | dererk | varsendagger, don't know what is varicad |
| 01:08.16 | dererk | sorry |
| 01:08.21 | dererk | Jambon, hohó |
| 01:08.32 | dererk | Jambon, no gifts for you this xmas |
| 01:08.36 | dererk | apt, bad Jambon |
| 01:08.37 | apt | Bad Jambon, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 01:08.41 | varsendagger | it is a high end CAD program |
| 01:08.46 | dererk | hohà |
| 01:08.55 | varsendagger | it works on 3.1 |
| 01:09.04 | varsendagger | other than that i don't know |
| 01:09.36 | Jambon | ya that's about all i could threaten google to tell me |
| 01:10.05 | Jambon | derek: you do know why santa is so jolly right? |
| 01:11.07 | Jambon | he knows where all the bad girls live......... |
| 01:11.48 | dererk | hohó |
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| 01:13.17 | varsendagger | hey thanks |
| 01:13.43 | Elive_user33 | If you double click a blank entry on the 0.4 installer, it asks if you want to install to partition (null)... |
| 01:13.47 | Jambon | maybe there is a tar out there |
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| 01:58.30 | orvalito | double klik on my orvall.... Hi there..? |
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| 02:31.21 | Strider | hi there |
| 02:36.21 | Strider | guess no one is home...bbl |
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| 02:45.06 | Strider | anyone home? |
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| 02:58.46 | Strider | I just got kicked from the enlightenment irc... |
| 02:58.58 | Thanatermesis | Strider, do you know who is raster ? |
| 02:59.12 | Strider | he was rude for no reason |
| 02:59.34 | Thanatermesis | but do you know who is he ? |
| 02:59.38 | Strider | no |
| 02:59.50 | Thanatermesis | he is the owner and developer of enlightenment |
| 03:00.09 | Strider | well he is not a polite or insightful person |
| 03:00.22 | Thanatermesis | i don't think this, he is a good person |
| 03:00.37 | Strider | he was rude to me for no reason |
| 03:00.45 | Strider | truly |
| 03:01.01 | Strider | I asked if there was a trashbin in enlightenment |
| 03:01.20 | Strider | he treated me very roughly for no reason at all |
| 03:01.24 | Thanatermesis | and he has only explain why don't has |
| 03:01.58 | Strider | no....I asked about all of enlightenment...he kept answering about 17 only |
| 03:02.26 | Strider | and he didnt just explain...he rolled over me like I was a dummy |
| 03:03.25 | Strider | and he kept going on answering questions I never asked he spoke 10-1 of my times but was rude in the process |
| 03:04.12 | Strider | I can give you the irc chat record |
| 03:04.18 | Strider | you can see it |
| 03:05.01 | Thanatermesis | but he has explained you to a "trash" needs a file-management thing on the window manager... a trash not is directly a part of a windowmanager but more for a filemanager |
| 03:05.08 | Thanatermesis | and e16 don't has a file-manager |
| 03:05.12 | Thanatermesis | e17 maybe |
| 03:05.23 | Thanatermesis | but not is a priority of enlightenment |
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| 03:11.15 | Strider | I have apologized to him and we are cool |
| 03:11.29 | Thanatermesis | yes, i have look :) |
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| 03:11.42 | Strider | no problem I think |
| 03:11.59 | Strider | sorry to you too... |
| 03:12.06 | Strider | :{ |
| 03:12.18 | Thanatermesis | all good now :) |
| 03:12.37 | Strider | Thanatermesis, is the new 0.4 almost ready?? |
| 03:12.48 | Thanatermesis | yes... i think |
| 03:12.57 | Thanatermesis | i need just to start uploading it |
| 03:13.10 | Strider | I'm excited |
| 03:13.11 | Gwildor | than i will be rdy in the morning :) |
| 03:13.16 | Gwildor | but im off to bed...gnite |
| 03:13.18 | Thanatermesis | i need to rebuild the iso with a minor change and yes, i can posible to start uploading |
| 03:13.32 | Strider | hi Gwildor I was a bad boy... :( |
| 03:13.44 | Thanatermesis | good night Gwildor... tomorrow we have the iso ;) |
| 03:13.56 | Gwildor | Strider, what didja do? |
| 03:14.20 | Strider | Gwildor, raster kicked me from #E we misunderstood |
| 03:14.55 | Strider | Gwildor, but all is cool now but I feel like a heal I'm no troll |
| 03:16.47 | Strider | I actually thought he was putting down enlightenment ... but he was just telling me the facts that I didn't understand he kept repeating that enlightenment didn't have a working filemanager...I had initially asked about 17 he kept repeating the same thing |
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| 03:19.08 | Strider | ....so, how does enlightenment deal with the issue of trash???? I really don't understand...I'm so used to Windows and KDE...and trash is sort of essential....if enlightenment has no contingency for trash where does trash go???? |
| 03:19.29 | Mutacion | trash goes directly to trash :P |
| 03:19.43 | Mutacion | it dosent has a little box where u save ur trash things.. |
| 03:19.55 | Strider | so there is really no recovery for it... :( |
| 03:19.56 | Mutacion | when u delte.. it just delete :P |
| 03:19.59 | Mutacion | noup |
| 03:20.31 | Strider | so no second chances....sort of cruel thought to me... |
| 03:20.50 | saCUL | it is an enlighened attitude to trash |
| 03:21.03 | saCUL | just let go of all your worldly possessions!!! |
| 03:21.07 | saCUL | muhahaha |
| 03:21.21 | Strider | LOL patience is enlightenment OM SHANTI OM SHANTI |
| 03:21.39 | saCUL | :-) |
| 03:22.40 | Strider | saCUL, you explained it more in my language than raster did...if he would have said it like that I would have understood... |
| 03:22.48 | Thanatermesis | mmmh.. Strider im not totally with you about the trash thing... |
| 03:23.00 | Thanatermesis | the trash is a part of a disorganized desktop with a lot of icons |
| 03:23.14 | Mutacion | ese htana :P |
| 03:23.17 | saCUL | Strider, you have been joshing with raster !!! can I touch you :-) |
| 03:23.19 | Thanatermesis | you drag-n-drop icons of your desktop or filemanager on the trash |
| 03:23.32 | Thanatermesis | but enlightenment don't has icons on the desktop, he is more clean :) |
| 03:23.55 | Thanatermesis | if you manage your files, you manage it from a filemanager.. and the filemanager has a trash (or equivalent/similar thing) |
| 03:23.59 | Strider | Thanatermesis, please be patient with me....Im a diehard KDE and WINDOWS addict who had my mind bent by their brainwashing |
| 03:24.03 | Thanatermesis | ese Muta |
| 03:24.40 | Strider | Im new to enlightenment...it will take time to adjust...I still think like KDE |
| 03:25.56 | Thanatermesis | Strider in any case im not a "GUI user"... my first steps on linux is in non graphical system for 3 years, and im happy... i don't really need any GUI thing.. my only things on my desktop is just xchat and firefox.. and all the rest is a lot of consoles |
| 03:27.13 | Thanatermesis | the work on enlightenment is diferent... no icons on the desktop (i like this idea, is clean, also if in the future is available)... if you don't has icons on the desktop, you don't need a trash on the desktop (because you don't have a icon for drag-n-drop) |
| 03:27.19 | Mutacion | yeah!!! (y) |
| 03:27.19 | Mutacion | yo tmb..haha esa es la actitud thana :P.. la consola es tu amiga |
| 03:27.23 | Strider | Thanatermesis, so you can see, I am more the Mandrake, SUSE KDE linux noob who uses command line only as a last resort, I represent many who now use linux |
| 03:27.37 | Thanatermesis | i need to write a little tutorial about "how work fast and efficient on enlightenment" |
| 03:27.54 | Strider | yes, Thanatermesis that is a great idea |
| 03:28.34 | Thanatermesis | Strider in any case you can posible to solve your problem of the trash thing using rox-filer on your desktop.. and you has icons, trash.. and a file-manager integrated |
| 03:28.35 | Strider | BTW, Thanatermesis I want to be more like you hehehe |
| 03:28.36 | saCUL | strider - or install kde as well and switch between enlightenment and kde on occasion as I switch between enlightenment and gnome |
| 03:28.39 | Thanatermesis | a lot of distros uses this way |
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| 03:28.58 | Thanatermesis | and i can (maybe) posible to include this on a next release... |
| 03:29.12 | Thanatermesis | i need to study how to works and look if is really what i want on Elive |
| 03:29.12 | Strider | saCUL, that is a good idea |
| 03:29.48 | Strider | Thanatermesis, thanks for the advice about rox-filer |
| 03:29.51 | saCUL | strider - you will need to install kdm or gdm to switch - entrance can't do it - at least I haven't been able to figure that out |
| 03:29.51 | Thanatermesis | saCUL but.. installing/using kde/gnome... for what you want then Elive ? :) |
| 03:29.53 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | hello Thanatermesis |
| 03:30.00 | Thanatermesis | hi KaKaRoTo-KS |
| 03:30.02 | saCUL | Thanatermesis, :-) |
| 03:30.05 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | how r u ? |
| 03:30.33 | Thanatermesis | good, we can upload the iso this night for start to create the torrent and all the things :) |
| 03:30.37 | saCUL | Thanatermesis, some applets offered by the gnome panel - like dictionary lookup, weather outlook, etc |
| 03:30.47 | Strider | Thanatermesis, some of us like to have a lot of options and variety |
| 03:30.55 | Thanatermesis | saCUL and you RAM crying |
| 03:31.01 | saCUL | Thanatermesis, :-) |
| 03:31.10 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | cool |
| 03:31.18 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | I'll seed as much as I can... |
| 03:31.19 | Strider | :) I opened a can of worms.... |
| 03:31.19 | saCUL | Thanatermesis, thats why I *work with enlightenment |
| 03:31.25 | Thanatermesis | yes Strider, but this is in one part a bad thing |
| 03:31.27 | Thanatermesis | more options, and in the same time... more hard |
| 03:31.37 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | problem is : in case of reboot, I'll loose the ISO, I'll be running it all from RAM with elive :P |
| 03:31.47 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | by the way, did you include the SATA drivers ? |
| 03:31.52 | Thanatermesis | if you have a lot of options and things.. then you have a "flood of things and you don't understand any thing more"... |
| 03:32.09 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | the disk failure had nothing to do with the drivers, as I told you last time |
| 03:32.19 | Thanatermesis | the idea is: simple, efficient, diferent, fast |
| 03:32.22 | Strider | Thanatermesis, if I want KDE, I wont use it on the same install....I have 6 OSes now working with interchanging HDs |
| 03:32.43 | Strider | 6-8 |
| 03:33.12 | Strider | I will probably use the idea of rox-filer |
| 03:33.16 | Thanatermesis | KaKaRoTo-KS hehe, no... finally i don't include the SATA drivers.. on the liveCD... but don't delete it (i don't have saved), we can posible to share it via the comunity page or this channel for the users of want it ;) |
| 03:33.33 | Thanatermesis | KaKaRoTo-KS then your problem of the hard disk what is ? just simple badblocks on it ? |
| 03:34.08 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | and I re-confirmed it today... I just booted my PC, and all USB ports are not working... |
| 03:34.20 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | Thanatermesis, yes, I told you last time, don't know if you had read the messages |
| 03:34.29 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | I think it's electricity problems :( |
| 03:34.35 | Thanatermesis | Strider rox-filer is a very good option, very persons use it, and its very light... show me your oppinion about it when you have tried ;) |
| 03:34.51 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | because Monday I think, I had my other PC's power supply that burned, and I just bought a new case and power supply |
| 03:34.53 | Thanatermesis | "rox-desktop" or a similar thing is the thing of you want |
| 03:35.04 | Strider | Thanatermesis, surely I will and thanks for being so understanding |
| 03:35.17 | saCUL | Thanatermesis, do you know the function of this new module called Emu? |
| 03:35.19 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | then, Tuesday, BOTH my disks (IDE) from my other PC began to make incredible noise on all disk access |
| 03:35.23 | Thanatermesis | KaKaRoTo-KS on this elive... aparently the usb (just on the liveCD mode), don't looks to work good |
| 03:35.28 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | then, I had this SATA problem |
| 03:35.39 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | and now, my USB ports don't work anymore (they worked yesterday) |
| 03:35.49 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | and 2 of them didn't work since a week, or so.. |
| 03:35.54 | Strider | i got to go b4 I get into anymore problem...I am frightened of myself tonight....LOL |
| 03:36.30 | Strider | PEACE to all in this room...bye |
| 03:36.33 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | and a friend who works on hardware stuff said that the disk problem could have happened on windows or anything, it was a coincidence it happened with elive, but if it didn't that day, it would have happened anyways in the same week, because the disk was damaged... |
| 03:36.55 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | and yes, it was a badblock.. problem is that the badblock is in the boot sector/partition table of the disk, so it can't be repaired :( |
| 03:36.59 | Thanatermesis | KaKaRoTo-KS try a complete "badblocks -vs /dev/sda" (no write), for look if you don't have really badblocks on it |
| 03:37.11 | Thanatermesis | saCUL no idea |
| 03:37.17 | Thanatermesis | and also... i work better on e16 :) |
| 03:37.46 | saCUL | hmm looks like it might be plotting cpu use... |
| 03:38.03 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | Thanatermesis, no prob, I'll keep the sata modules of course.. remember, it's http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/elive |
| 03:38.24 | Thanatermesis | KaKaRoTo-KS from my sincerely oppinion... windows is dangerous also for your hardware |
| 03:38.31 | Thanatermesis | any thing, cpu, hard disk... |
| 03:38.36 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | but please download the files and copy them to your server, because of my recent problems and the noise the other 2 disks on my server are making, I think my server will shut down in a week or less |
| 03:38.49 | Thanatermesis | and a lot of virus and things is VERY easy to broke a hard disk |
| 03:39.02 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | le serveur est linux, et il roule 24/7 depuis plusieurs annees maintenant |
| 03:39.31 | Thanatermesis | the only thing of need is just write a only bit on a point of the hard disk, (first sectors better), and delete this bit, write it... very very very fast... this point is directly "burned", and you hard disk, totally broken |
| 03:39.48 | Thanatermesis | is just on example of a lot of things easy to make on windows :) |
| 03:39.48 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | donc c bizarre que d'un coup, le power supply brule, les DEUX disques ont l'air endomages, ensuite, les ports USB disparaissent un a un sur l'autre ordinateur, et le drive SATA qui brule aussi... |
| 03:41.37 | Thanatermesis | apt elive-sata $1 is Do you want to install elive in a SATA disk $1 ? just open this .tgz http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/elive and try "insmod file.ko" for your posible driver or test all, then you have the SATA feature ;) |
| 03:41.38 | apt | okay, Thanatermesis |
| 03:42.03 | Thanatermesis | <KaKaRoTo-KS2> but please download the files and copy them to your server, because of my recent problems and the noise the other 2 disks on my server are making, |
| 03:42.06 | Thanatermesis | oh... ok, hehe |
| 03:42.40 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | hehe, cool :) |
| 03:43.02 | Thanatermesis | KaKaRoTo-KS if the power-supply is damaged.. is posible to give "more than the normal" power to the hardwware... in any case.. looks a very ugly thing :( |
| 03:43.15 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | yeah :( |
| 03:43.20 | Thanatermesis | apt elive-sata KaKaRoTo-KS |
| 03:43.22 | apt | Do you want to install elive in a SATA disk KaKaRoTo-KS ? just open this .tgz http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/elive and try "insmod file.ko" for your posible driver or test all, then you have the SATA feature ;) |
| 03:43.28 | Thanatermesis | apt good bot |
| 03:43.28 | apt | thanks, Thanatermesis |
| 03:43.54 | egrub | Thanatermesis, acabo de kickearme en irc.ciudad.com.ar |
| 03:43.55 | egrub | xDDD |
| 03:44.00 | egrub | Es igual que irc-hispano |
| 03:44.01 | Thanatermesis | mmmh.... where we can posible to put this drivers ? mmh.. boh.. i look this maybe tomorrow |
| 03:44.14 | Thanatermesis | jejeje, no hagas caso egrub |
| 03:44.21 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | :) |
| 03:44.30 | egrub | Thanatermesis, le pregunt? as?: Por culpa winvirus? |
| 03:44.36 | egrub | Thanatermesis, ahi me kicke? |
| 03:44.37 | egrub | xDDD |
| 03:45.18 | Thanatermesis | KaKaRoTo-KS just temporal for now its ok ? before to the ppl starts to use Elive and this things i can put it on another part and the page web...e tc |
| 03:45.26 | Thanatermesis | xD egrub |
| 03:47.26 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | Thanatermesis, no problem, I don't care even if it becomes the official download link, my only problem is : if my server's HDD are dead tomorrow... then .. well you know :P |
| 03:47.56 | Thanatermesis | :/ |
| 03:48.04 | Thanatermesis | you have check your RAM ? |
| 03:48.53 | Thanatermesis | KaKaRoTo-KS big problems = big solutions, don't use more this machine... has too strange issues, check all the hardware, i think to the problems is 1) the powersupply or 2) the motherboard |
| 03:48.58 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | no, didn't... |
| 03:49.18 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | well, power supply is new now, I just bought one Monday |
| 03:49.41 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | motherboard... don't know, but I don't think so, because I have the 'same' problems on two different machines |
| 03:49.57 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | so I think it's the power |
| 03:50.44 | Thanatermesis | i have look very very strange things on my computer long time ago... understandable things.. i don't remember what but a thing imposible to found the "logic"... i have finally buy a new motherboard... and this has solve all my problems :) a old motherboard working everytime more bad.. and i don't have more problems after to buy a new motherboard :) |
| 03:51.46 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | on parle en francais ? :) |
| 03:51.48 | Thanatermesis | KaKaRoTo-KS obtain a "tester", discconect the powersupply of the cmoputer and check if all voltages are good (i think to you don't really need this with a tester.. you can posible to look the voltage's on the BIOS) |
| 03:51.56 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | bein c un probleme mechanique vraiment |
| 03:52.04 | Thanatermesis | or... you can buy a new motherboard :) not is very expensive |
| 03:52.15 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | qd je m'etais reveille, le power supply etait TRES chaud et l'ordi ne s'allumais plus dutout |
| 03:52.27 | Thanatermesis | uf |
| 03:52.34 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | ensuite, les disques dur font un bruit bizarre : crick/crick/crick a chaque acces disque |
| 03:52.46 | Thanatermesis | sounds very ugly |
| 03:52.52 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | yeah |
| 03:52.58 | Thanatermesis | its posible to are the powersupply BUT maybe also the motherboard |
| 03:53.04 | Thanatermesis | motherboard is the control of all your cmoputer |
| 03:53.04 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | just like if the bearings of the HDDs are dead |
| 03:53.11 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | problem is that it's on BOTH HDD |
| 03:53.28 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | one HDD has been in perfect state for more than 10 years |
| 03:53.35 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | the other one is rather new (3/4 years) |
| 03:53.45 | Thanatermesis | and if the motherboard send badly the power... or obtain it more than the normal (cross), same thing |
| 03:53.48 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | so it's mechanical... but anyways |
| 03:53.50 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | just weird |
| 03:54.09 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | good news is that it's not the fault of the drivers (they maybe only aelped what was about to happen anyways) |
| 03:54.16 | Thanatermesis | i don't know but yes.. really weird |
| 03:54.18 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | yeah, I understand |
| 03:54.23 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | but on both PCs ?? |
| 03:54.26 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | 2 motherboards... |
| 03:54.32 | Thanatermesis | the better thing is kick up this powersupply and the motherboard i think |
| 03:54.48 | Thanatermesis | this is not very expensive things and you make sure warranty of the good work |
| 03:54.50 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | one very old MB (7 years old I think), and the other one is about 2 years old (A7N8X-DX) |
| 03:55.08 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | yeah, just bough new power supply anyways |
| 03:55.08 | Thanatermesis | you can't posible to use more this things... is too dangerous for obtain a same problem |
| 03:55.21 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | I know... |
| 03:55.33 | Thanatermesis | 2 diferents pc's problem ? |
| 03:55.36 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | but if I turn off the server, I'll loose my emails (mail server on it) |
| 03:55.48 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | so everyday is 30+ mails bouncing on the net |
| 03:55.53 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | Thanatermesis, yes |
| 03:55.55 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | I have 2 pcs |
| 03:56.06 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | one desktop (usually windows) for everyday's use |
| 03:56.06 | Thanatermesis | this is really too strange |
| 03:56.08 | Thanatermesis | understandable |
| 03:56.20 | Thanatermesis | no understandable |
| 03:56.21 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | and the other one is a linux server headless (without any screen, use ssh to access) |
| 03:56.51 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | btw, do you know badblocks -vs output ? |
| 03:56.59 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | I can't understand it :D |
| 03:57.04 | Thanatermesis | and you don't have problems to turn your computer with windows without you look on it ? |
| 03:57.08 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | there will be a summary after ? |
| 03:57.09 | Thanatermesis | no affraid ? |
| 03:57.41 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | yes, afraid.. but I have exam tomorrow.. so I can't think of it right now |
| 03:57.45 | Thanatermesis | KaKaRoTo-KS badblocks -vs output is simple.. you just have the process... if you have a bad sector.. then you look another thing ;) |
| 03:57.49 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | tomorrow I'll back up all my data |
| 03:57.59 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | maybe buy new HDD and copy everything there as a backup |
| 03:58.12 | Thanatermesis | yes, backup is the most important thing |
| 03:58.18 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | root@elive[~]# badblocks -vs /dev/sda |
| 03:58.18 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | Checking blocks 0 to 120060864 |
| 03:58.18 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | Checking for bad blocks (read-only test): 0 0/ 120060864 |
| 03:58.18 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | 1 1/ 120060864 |
| 03:58.18 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | 2 2/ 120060864 |
| 03:58.19 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | 3 3/ 120060864 |
| 03:58.21 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | 102328 102328/ 120060864 |
| 03:58.23 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | 102329 102329/ 120060864 |
| 03:58.25 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | 102330 102330/ 120060864 |
| 03:58.27 | Thanatermesis | you can be posible to burn a hard disk, a mother board, lost the monitor or burn all cmputer... |
| 03:58.27 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | 102331 102331/ 120060864 |
| 03:58.29 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | 208789600878960/ 120060864 |
| 03:58.31 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | 208790200879020/ 120060864 |
| 03:58.33 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | 20879021 |
| 03:58.35 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | 20879022 |
| 03:58.37 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | 20879023 |
| 03:58.43 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:58.58 | Thanatermesis | but if you lost your data.. this is then the real bad thing.. you can't posible to obtain it with money |
| 03:59.50 | Thanatermesis | it don't looks bad KaKaRoTo-KS, just if you have errors, then you found errors messages... in any case this lines needs to are in the same line (no? maybe expanding the terminal) |
| 04:00.05 | Thanatermesis | 358223 extents written (699 MB) |
| 04:00.17 | Thanatermesis | not is a bad number :) |
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| 04:02.41 | Muta | mmmm |
| 04:02.44 | Muta | xD |
| 04:05.34 | Thanatermesis | Longitud: 733,640,704 (700M) [application/x-iso9660-image] |
| 04:05.34 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:07.23 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | Thanatermesis, no error message so far (still testing), but no, these messages are on separate lines... |
| 04:07.49 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | the last one I had was still counting (the left number was changing), but now it printed a new line and then many other new lines... |
| 04:08.07 | Thanatermesis | strange.. your terminal not is "complete size" ? il a peut etre besoin de faire "saute de ligne" ? |
| 04:08.25 | Thanatermesis | in any case this don't looks bad... |
| 04:08.36 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, but is better to launch this in pure console and no in X |
| 04:08.41 | Thanatermesis | you have more messages than in X |
| 04:09.05 | Thanatermesis | also, try "dmesg" for give the last messages.. if you have a problem on the hard disk, it are directly showed on "demsg" |
| 04:09.36 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | terminal is big enough |
| 04:09.50 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | 75% of the screen (1280x1024) |
| 04:11.03 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 12227062 |
| 04:11.03 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | ata1: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| 04:11.03 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | ata1: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } |
| 04:11.03 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | ata1: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| 04:11.03 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | ata1: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } |
| 04:11.04 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | ata1: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| 04:11.06 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | ata1: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } |
| 04:11.08 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | ata1: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| 04:11.10 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | ata1: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } |
| 04:11.14 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | ata1: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| 04:11.16 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | ata1: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError } |
| 04:11.18 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | SCSI error : <2 0 0 0> return code = 0x8000002 |
| 04:11.20 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | sda: Current: sense key=0x3 |
| 04:11.22 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:11.24 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 97816504 |
| 04:11.26 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | I have ALOT of those in dmesg... |
| 04:14.28 | Thanatermesis | ouch |
| 04:14.42 | Thanatermesis | THIS is the bad sectors errors |
| 04:14.46 | Thanatermesis | your hard disk is damaged |
| 04:15.19 | Thanatermesis | you can posible to recover data from it... but don't use more this hard disk (just for practice things maybe) |
| 04:15.19 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | yeah :( |
| 04:15.28 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | btw, good news is : it's still under warranty |
| 04:15.44 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | I'll try spinrite to recover the data |
| 04:15.48 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | or something else... |
| 04:16.01 | Thanatermesis | i have a same hard disk in this state.. i have recorver the most important data from it (a simple cp -Rp, all the recoverable things are copied.. if exist any error, it not are copied, simple) |
| 04:16.04 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | but as you can see.. it had nothing to do with sata modules :P |
| 04:17.18 | Thanatermesis | i think to a user has affraid about this |
| 04:17.50 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | yes |
| 04:17.55 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | I completely understand |
| 04:17.55 | Thanatermesis | he is from #debian-es.. and have asked me about SATA the last day.. just in the moment of you has compiled the modueles.. i have speaked to try this modules.. but he are reading on this channel |
| 04:18.10 | Thanatermesis | after look to you has problems of the hard disk he has dissapeared and totally scared, hehe |
| 04:18.16 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | loool |
| 04:18.20 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | ok |
| 04:18.45 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | well, he could try, and if his HDD burns too, then we would know it's sata driver's problem :P |
| 04:19.00 | Thanatermesis | hehehe |
| 04:19.34 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | hehe, but with all the errors I have, I think the problem is in the drive, writes to it would destroy it, and the reason it was destroyed is because I was partitioning it so the bad block appeared on the boot sector... |
| 04:19.42 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | btw, I can't find /var/log/messages |
| 04:20.26 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | /etc/localtime fixed ? |
| 04:21.48 | Thanatermesis | yes.. you have partitioned a hard disk with a badblocks problem (sometimes, not is easy to know to a person has bad sectors on a hard disk), and playing with this things.. (partitioning) is now in a more bad state (and no just some bits unreadable and with errors) |
| 04:21.51 | Thanatermesis | yes.. fixed |
| 04:22.14 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | ok |
| 04:22.18 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | yeah |
| 04:22.24 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | and /var/log/messages ? where is it ? |
| 04:22.29 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | as well as ksyslog |
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| 04:28.25 | Thanatermesis | you have diferents messages... |
| 04:28.31 | Thanatermesis | on Elive you has a good terminal for messages :) |
| 04:28.37 | Thanatermesis | is control-alt-F12 ;) |
| 04:30.12 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | Thanatermesis, no, I want the syslog |
| 04:30.20 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | there's no syslog and /var/log/messages??? |
| 04:30.23 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | it should be in a file! |
| 04:31.04 | Thanatermesis | you have all in /var/log |
| 04:32.27 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | there is no messages file |
| 04:32.30 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | and syslog is empty |
| 04:33.18 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 04:33.23 | Thanatermesis | on the liveCD of Elive ? |
| 04:34.57 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | Thanatermesis, http://paste.lisp.org/display/16846 |
| 04:35.02 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | on the liveCD |
| 04:35.18 | Thanatermesis | maybe is deactivated on the livecd mode :/ |
| 04:35.24 | Thanatermesis | in any case you have dmesg |
| 04:35.27 | Thanatermesis | try to fin on |
| 04:35.34 | Thanatermesis | /mnt/.hidden_base/var/log |
| 04:36.30 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | ok |
| 04:37.01 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | root@elive[/var/log]# cd /mnt/.hidden_base/var |
| 04:37.01 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | -su: cd: /mnt/.hidden_base/var: No such file or directory |
| 04:37.41 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.03 | Thanatermesis | .hidden or .hidded... i don't remember |
| 04:41.06 | Thanatermesis | ls -la /mnt ;) |
| 04:41.42 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | no that was it |
| 04:41.49 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | but var is a symlink to /ramdisk/var |
| 04:41.53 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | which doesn't exist.. |
| 04:46.13 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | root@elive[~]# gpart /dev/sda |
| 04:46.13 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | *** Fatal error: cannot get sector size on dev(/dev/sda). |
| 04:47.40 | Thanatermesis | :/ |
| 04:53.15 | egrub | Thanatermesis, como se descomprime el rar |
| 04:53.29 | egrub | unrar archivo.rar pero no descomprime... |
| 04:54.01 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | Thanatermesis, /me goes to bed |
| 04:54.01 | Thanatermesis | unrar x archivo.rar |
| 04:54.06 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | good night all |
| 04:54.13 | Thanatermesis | hehe, i need the same KaKaRoTo-KS :) |
| 04:54.19 | Thanatermesis | im just playing with my future webpage ;) |
| 04:54.23 | Thanatermesis | good night KaKaRoTo-KS |
| 04:55.06 | Mutacion | bye kaKaRoTo-KS |
| 04:55.19 | Mutacion | creo qe ha sido un dia agotador, no lo es asi thana? |
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| 04:55.48 | KaKaRoTo-KS2 | good night |
| 04:56.23 | Thanatermesis | Mutacion hombre.. trabajando como siempre :) |
| 04:56.33 | egrub | Thanatermesis, me pide passwd. Es una mierda. Ya borr?. xD |
| 04:56.40 | Thanatermesis | 11% [===> ] 83,141,264 25.84K/s ETA 6:45:32 |
| 04:56.41 | Thanatermesis | ;) |
| 04:56.53 | Thanatermesis | egrub jejejeje |
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| 05:09.39 | eshep_work | 11% [===> ] 83,141,264 2500.84K/s ETA 15:32 |
| 05:09.43 | eshep_work | :) |
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| 05:59.37 | Mutacion | bye ppl |
| 05:59.38 | Mutacion | bye apt |
| 05:59.49 | Mutacion | apt bye |
| 05:59.50 | apt | bye bye |
| 05:59.56 | Mutacion | xD |
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| 06:37.02 | Jambon | ok.....so when is 0.4 really going to come out? |
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| 06:48.23 | Strider | hi |
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| 07:00.05 | Strider | hi cornelius[cz] |
| 07:00.24 | cornelius[cz] | 'morning |
| 07:00.39 | Strider | anything to help you with? |
| 07:03.24 | cornelius[cz] | not today :) I'm just one of Thana's graphics artists >] |
| 07:03.25 | cornelius[cz] | :) |
| 07:03.43 | cornelius[cz] | and only idleing around |
| 07:04.44 | Strider | wow cornelius[cz] nice to meet you...I just joined eproject support team yesterday |
| 07:05.31 | cornelius[cz] | nice to meet you too :) |
| 07:07.26 | Strider | cornelius[cz], thanks...Im gonna get in bed now, hoping for the new release tomorrow... :D |
| 07:07.47 | Strider | gnighty night |
| 07:07.58 | cornelius[cz] | tomorow is here already and no new release yet :) |
| 07:08.02 | cornelius[cz] | good night |
| 07:08.14 | Strider | not on my side of the world... |
| 07:08.32 | Strider | but it will be...Thana was pretty sure of it |
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| 07:24.18 | Jambon | he said that yesterday |
| 07:35.33 | eshep_work | yall, he is uploading it as we speak...it should be ready in about 7hrs |
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| 07:49.02 | Jambon | what? is 0.4 out? |
| 07:49.28 | LinuxNIT | eshep_work, syas its being uploaded |
| 07:49.37 | LinuxNIT | i thingk thats what hes refering to anyway |
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| 07:50.51 | Jambon | better be |
| 07:51.08 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 07:51.09 | Jambon | Thana told me it would be out yesterday |
| 07:51.45 | LinuxNIT | well unexpected things happed |
| 07:52.55 | Jambon | ya |
| 07:53.10 | Jambon | it's just that running the live cd it kind bugging me |
| 07:53.24 | Jambon | i keep thinking 0.4 will be out, so i don't bother installing 0.3 again |
| 07:53.52 | LinuxNIT | did you not install the pre? |
| 07:54.36 | Jambon | no |
| 07:54.48 | LinuxNIT | why not? |
| 07:54.48 | Jambon | because i keep hearing 0.4 final would be out |
| 07:54.54 | LinuxNIT | ah |
| 07:57.00 | bouba_diop | hi all! |
| 07:57.09 | LinuxNIT | hi |
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| 07:59.36 | Jambon | hi |
| 07:59.36 | Begasus | g'morning |
| 07:59.44 | Jambon | g'night |
| 07:59.52 | LinuxNIT | nght |
| 07:59.56 | Begasus | cu ;) |
| 07:59.59 | Jambon | although i guess, yes, it's technically morning |
| 08:00.06 | Jambon | no i was just stating the time of day |
| 08:00.07 | Jambon | or nigh |
| 08:00.08 | Jambon | t |
| 08:00.09 | LinuxNIT | hehehe |
| 08:01.06 | Begasus | is the realease out? |
| 08:01.20 | kr1stof | moin Begasus |
| 08:01.26 | kr1stof | Not yet |
| 08:01.31 | Begasus | he kr1stof!!! |
| 08:01.39 | Begasus | fancy you seeing here ;) |
| 08:01.45 | kr1stof | Probably in the evening |
| 08:02.00 | Begasus | k |
| 08:02.17 | kr1stof | Begasus I had version 0.3 installed a few month ago |
| 08:02.24 | Begasus | ah nice |
| 08:02.32 | Begasus | and you didn't tell me? tse tse ... |
| 08:02.36 | Begasus | jk |
| 08:02.58 | Begasus | thought you read my post at bebug ;) |
| 08:03.12 | kr1stof | Begasus you kept on telling me you turned away from linux at all. |
| 08:03.31 | Begasus | nah lately I installed opensuse again |
| 08:03.44 | Begasus | and took a look at symphonyos |
| 08:03.59 | Begasus | so I still have a small eye on linux |
| 08:04.07 | kr1stof | Begasus I saw your nick "Begasus_elive" last week and didn't trust my eyes. ;-) |
| 08:04.25 | Begasus | and seeing it being calm I was eager to try out something new ;) |
| 08:04.26 | Begasus | hehe |
| 08:05.32 | kr1stof | I used to run SimplyMepis, elive and "pure" Debian for a while. |
| 08:05.38 | kr1stof | Things have dramatically improved the last month. :-) |
| 08:06.00 | Begasus | I was impressed by how quick the system respons |
| 08:06.19 | Begasus | the ease (eventualy) of the installer |
| 08:06.37 | kr1stof | Same here. It breathes new live into my rather old hw |
| 08:06.44 | Begasus | etc .. and it's something great looking and not kde or gnome |
| 08:07.11 | Begasus | although you can still run kde apps etc |
| 08:07.42 | Jambon | ya |
| 08:07.48 | kr1stof | Some debian based distros have a handy installer within the live cd. This makes it comfortable for newbies and average users. |
| 08:08.17 | Begasus | yes ... and even the resizer worked here |
| 08:08.33 | Begasus | it was the first time I resized a partition from within a linux distro |
| 08:08.34 | LinuxNIT | do yall know if the segfault problems configureing modules is fixed the 0.4 final? not a big deal just curious |
| 08:09.01 | kr1stof | no idea |
| 08:09.07 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 08:09.08 | Begasus | think you should ask ThanaZzzz when he gets up ;) |
| 08:09.29 | LinuxNIT | nah ill leave him be |
| 08:09.31 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 08:09.44 | LinuxNIT | sides i got class in the morning |
| 08:10.49 | Begasus | we are the oldies again in here kr1stof ;) |
| 08:11.24 | Jambon | LinuxNIT, where do you go to school? |
| 08:11.30 | LinuxNIT | OU |
| 08:11.37 | Jambon | um |
| 08:11.39 | Jambon | where? |
| 08:11.55 | Jambon | and no, I don't think you owe me anything |
| 08:11.55 | LinuxNIT | University of Oklahoma |
| 08:11.59 | Jambon | ah |
| 08:14.50 | kr1stof | :-) |
| 08:14.59 | kr1stof | I've got to go to work now |
| 08:15.02 | kr1stof | c u |
| 08:16.30 | bouba_diop | all of you guys develop elive? |
| 08:17.01 | Begasus | nope not me |
| 08:17.20 | LinuxNIT | not i said the NIT |
| 08:17.59 | bouba_diop | nit? |
| 08:18.26 | LinuxNIT | NIT=nerd in training :) |
| 08:18.41 | bouba_diop | :) |
| 08:19.25 | LinuxNIT | so 1 day i will be LinuxN :) |
| 08:20.19 | bouba_diop | even you are;) |
| 08:21.21 | LinuxNIT | me a N already? |
| 08:21.44 | LinuxNIT | well maybe just not a guru lol |
| 08:22.18 | Jambon | ya |
| 08:22.29 | Jambon | i think we all qualify as semi-linux nerds |
| 08:22.35 | Jambon | and all qualify as nerds |
| 08:22.58 | Jambon | being a nerd is awesome |
| 08:23.16 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 08:24.14 | bouba_diop | eheheh yesterday i've upgraded elive 0.4 pre with apt-get, and the system fucked up:D |
| 08:24.28 | Jambon | ya i killed 0.3 that way |
| 08:24.32 | bouba_diop | :D |
| 08:24.35 | Jambon | i also kille ubuntu that way |
| 08:24.49 | Jambon | i'm really good a killing linux |
| 08:24.58 | LinuxNIT | what did you apt-get? |
| 08:25.03 | Jambon | I am the Inadvertant Lord of Linux Destruction |
| 08:25.06 | bouba_diop | i'm the best distro killer:D |
| 08:25.10 | Jambon | no |
| 08:25.16 | Jambon | i think i have you beat |
| 08:25.23 | bouba_diop | eheheh |
| 08:25.28 | LinuxNIT | whatd you do apt-get remove all |
| 08:25.29 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 08:25.57 | Jambon | for some reason, on our home computer (windows xp) every time i leave, shortly afterwards the computer crashes totally and needs to be repaired |
| 08:26.09 | Jambon | leave for school that is |
| 08:26.16 | Jambon | so a couple of times so far |
| 08:26.18 | Jambon | but still |
| 08:26.41 | LinuxNIT | i can tell you what the problem is |
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| 08:26.50 | LinuxNIT | its running xp |
| 08:26.52 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 08:27.19 | Jambon | well home computer |
| 08:27.20 | Jambon | family |
| 08:27.30 | Jambon | NOT computer people |
| 08:27.36 | Jambon | they need things easy |
| 08:27.41 | Jambon | and their programs |
| 08:27.45 | LinuxNIT | linux is not hard |
| 08:27.49 | Jambon | and don't even try telling me that |
| 08:27.56 | Jambon | that is a complete lie |
| 08:28.01 | LinuxNIT | what do they do on it? |
| 08:28.16 | Jambon | if all you is surf the web, chat, and maybe do a few other things, sure |
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| 08:28.32 | LinuxNIT | what esle do they do? |
| 08:28.41 | LinuxNIT | thats all most users do |
| 08:28.54 | Jambon | but if you want or need certain programs, like photoshop (no, gimp doesn't come even close), trillian, etc |
| 08:28.54 | bouba_diop | dont'w worry... w$ vista is too close :D:D:D |
| 08:29.21 | Jambon | even I couldn't live on linux alone |
| 08:29.30 | Jambon | and don't want to |
| 08:29.39 | LinuxNIT | your choice |
| 08:29.41 | Jambon | windows for me is still neccesary |
| 08:30.00 | Jambon | and with config in linux being the way it is, |
| 08:30.06 | bouba_diop | me too... i can't leave without blue screen :D |
| 08:30.07 | Jambon | there is no way you'd get them on it |
| 08:30.14 | LinuxNIT | i only use widows for quake :) got the few windows apps i really needed to run in wine |
| 08:30.15 | Jambon | you know what i mean |
| 08:30.26 | Jambon | besides, i actually have linux crash MORE than windows |
| 08:30.45 | LinuxNIT | wow i haven had i linux crash in ages |
| 08:31.23 | LinuxNIT | jk man |
| 08:32.15 | LinuxNIT | im just glad i dont have to worry about viruses spyware etc. |
| 08:32.40 | LinuxNIT | i hear my family talking about them and smile to my self :) |
| 08:32.40 | bouba_diop | ;) |
| 08:32.54 | Jambon | ya |
| 08:32.59 | LinuxNIT | that or taughnt them lol |
| 08:33.04 | LinuxNIT | taunt |
| 08:33.04 | Jambon | well the no viri are nice |
| 08:33.08 | LinuxNIT | yep |
| 08:33.27 | Jambon | but between programs randomly shutting off and dealing with NO games linux, I find myself going to windows |
| 08:33.41 | Jambon | when I finally get my own computer I'll probably dual boot |
| 08:33.42 | LinuxNIT | what distro do you run? |
| 08:34.48 | Jambon | elive cd now |
| 08:35.06 | LinuxNIT | and before when you had all these problems? |
| 08:35.16 | Jambon | let's see |
| 08:35.28 | Jambon | my first linux experience was just plain debian |
| 08:35.41 | LinuxNIT | stable? |
| 08:35.45 | Jambon | trying to get a boot floppy to work was hell |
| 08:35.53 | Jambon | ya, then testing, then sid |
| 08:36.03 | Jambon | then a hiatus |
| 08:36.05 | Jambon | then ubuntu |
| 08:36.06 | LinuxNIT | boot floppy? for what? |
| 08:36.10 | Jambon | debian |
| 08:36.14 | Jambon | it was on our home computer, |
| 08:36.27 | Jambon | and i didn't want my family freaking out at the grub menu |
| 08:36.53 | Jambon | they weren't exactly fond of me being on the computer much, and less of fiddling aroud with their computer |
| 08:36.57 | bouba_diop | with an old pc boot floppy is a GOD:D |
| 08:37.14 | LinuxNIT | huh |
| 08:37.28 | Jambon | i can't see my self worshipping one |
| 08:37.41 | LinuxNIT | so you had problems on pure debian stable? |
| 08:37.54 | Jambon | well i like bleading edge new things |
| 08:38.04 | LinuxNIT | well thats the problem |
| 08:38.07 | Jambon | ya |
| 08:38.13 | LinuxNIT | there are always bugs in bleeding edge |
| 08:38.20 | Jambon | i tinker a lot with things i have no clue about |
| 08:38.25 | Jambon | it's fun |
| 08:38.31 | Jambon | though not always rewarding |
| 08:38.44 | LinuxNIT | dude ive had sarge on this laptop for almost a year no problems |
| 08:38.48 | LinuxNIT | well.. |
| 08:39.14 | LinuxNIT | none that i didnt cuase by playing with stuff when i dindt know what i was doin |
| 08:39.16 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 08:39.20 | Jambon | ya |
| 08:39.25 | Jambon | that's my problem |
| 08:39.39 | Jambon | when i hear firefox 1.5, i want it |
| 08:39.40 | LinuxNIT | do you play like that in windows? |
| 08:39.45 | Jambon | oh ya |
| 08:39.47 | Jambon | even more |
| 08:39.51 | Jambon | well |
| 08:39.52 | Jambon | kinda |
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| 08:39.56 | Jambon | it's not as fun in windows |
| 08:40.05 | LinuxNIT | with stuff you dont know what youre doin ? |
| 08:40.29 | Jambon | when i'm in windows i mainly skin the thing, set up a few widgets, and spend the rest of the time gaming, chatting, or browsing |
| 08:40.37 | Jambon | linux is almost always tinkering |
| 08:40.57 | LinuxNIT | see thats the dif |
| 08:41.16 | LinuxNIT | in windows youre messing with superficaial stuff |
| 08:41.29 | LinuxNIT | in linux your messing with other stuff |
| 08:41.33 | Orvalitux | yep you all... |
| 08:41.45 | LinuxNIT | Orvalitux, hows the wifi working? |
| 08:42.11 | Orvalitux | LinuxNIT, hello... thx for your helps..it's ok.. |
| 08:42.20 | LinuxNIT | cool glad to hear |
| 08:42.40 | LinuxNIT | Jambon, no offence but i wouldnt blame the crahses on linux :) |
| 08:42.40 | Jambon | ya, but i'm not sure if all the tinkering i do is a good thing |
| 08:42.45 | Jambon | no |
| 08:42.47 | Jambon | i'm just saying |
| 08:42.58 | Jambon | in terms of new stuff, linux lags |
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| 08:43.09 | Jambon | or at least stable linux stuff does |
| 08:43.13 | Orvalitux | I'm at school now.. I show the fantastic live cd to the teacher who told me/us about e,lightenment last week.. |
| 08:43.20 | LinuxNIT | compile from source :) |
| 08:43.33 | Jambon | no |
| 08:43.38 | LinuxNIT | hehehe |
| 08:43.49 | Jambon | that just screws shit up |
| 08:43.57 | LinuxNIT | huh? |
| 08:43.59 | LinuxNIT | wierd |
| 08:44.01 | Jambon | then upgrading is a beeotch |
| 08:44.10 | Jambon | i like packages |
| 08:44.16 | LinuxNIT | upgrading in deb sarge? |
| 08:44.29 | Jambon | no, from source |
| 08:44.32 | LinuxNIT | ah |
| 08:44.41 | Jambon | packages are easy to upgrade |
| 08:44.42 | LinuxNIT | probably true |
| 08:44.46 | Jambon | source, well, isn't |
| 08:45.10 | LinuxNIT | guess im not so concerned aboutbleeding edge :) |
| 08:45.19 | Jambon | althouh i will occasionally use it for things i really need |
| 08:45.22 | Jambon | like ff1.5 |
| 08:45.31 | LinuxNIT | i like it when mine just keeps on truckin :) |
| 08:45.40 | Jambon | I want to be a product/industrial designer/engineer |
| 08:46.00 | Jambon | so bleeding edge new gadgets are in my blood |
| 08:46.22 | Jambon | and since they're always easy to install in windows, I just set a few things up and I'm done |
| 08:46.35 | Jambon | in linux I never get things to just the way I like them |
| 08:46.43 | Jambon | so I spend the whole time tinkering |
| 08:46.57 | LinuxNIT | whatever floats your boat |
| 08:48.15 | Jambon | my boats always in the process of sinking |
| 08:48.52 | LinuxNIT | well have fun with a sinking yet bleeding edge boat ;) |
| 08:49.25 | hal9k_ | sharp things dont float verry well |
| 08:49.25 | LinuxNIT | just teasing man |
| 08:49.47 | LinuxNIT | im actually getting ready to install deb sid myself hehehe |
| 08:50.06 | Jambon | ya |
| 08:50.12 | Jambon | i'm just sticking with elive |
| 08:50.19 | Jambon | don't have the time to install all the programs i want |
| 08:52.25 | LinuxNIT | well im gonna use elive as well. |
| 08:53.01 | LinuxNIT | so ill have deb sarge, elive, and deb sid on my laptop till i decide wich i can disperse of lol |
| 08:53.46 | LinuxNIT | use to have windows but when i went to reinstall (it died) it wouldnt allow my code to activate it |
| 08:53.55 | LinuxNIT | so i said bye bye windows |
| 08:54.32 | LinuxNIT | but wine runs the coupld apps i needed windows for |
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| 08:56.19 | LinuxNIT | wine is a lot better now than when i first started linux |
| 08:56.22 | Jambon | ya |
| 08:56.51 | Jambon | it's just when i see the vista screenshots i start getting jealous |
| 08:56.58 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 08:57.11 | LinuxNIT | you downlaod any music etc? |
| 08:57.11 | Jambon | even though i know it'll be so damn full of user restrictions that it won't even be worth it |
| 08:57.20 | Jambon | ya |
| 08:57.23 | LinuxNIT | too bad |
| 08:57.44 | LinuxNIT | i hear it wont let you play without digital rights to them |
| 08:57.47 | LinuxNIT | :( |
| 08:58.02 | Jambon | no it will |
| 08:58.15 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 08:58.24 | Jambon | otherwise there would be an outcry of people who want to rips their own cds |
| 08:58.31 | Jambon | only sony would be dumb enough to do that |
| 08:59.09 | LinuxNIT | i thought you had digital rights to your own cds |
| 08:59.51 | Jambon | are you talking drm? |
| 09:00.09 | LinuxNIT | ya |
| 09:00.22 | LinuxNIT | i think lol |
| 09:00.48 | Jambon | that's different |
| 09:01.07 | Jambon | fair use laws allow you to make mp3s of your own cds |
| 09:01.17 | Jambon | at least |
| 09:01.19 | Jambon | they should |
| 09:01.29 | Jambon | they should also allow you to backup dvds |
| 09:01.34 | Jambon | but that would be breakin the dcma |
| 09:01.40 | Jambon | which would be a felony |
| 09:01.49 | LinuxNIT | but not play or burn mp3 you downloaded |
| 09:01.52 | Jambon | which only applies to americans |
| 09:02.20 | LinuxNIT | grrrr |
| 09:02.29 | Jambon | ya |
| 09:02.47 | Jambon | part of the large list of things which makes me hesitant to go to school in the states |
| 09:02.58 | Jambon | in canada they have almost no legal way of tracking what we download |
| 09:03.09 | Jambon | a few kids i know got letters from universal |
| 09:03.10 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 09:03.15 | Jambon | but they mean jack shit |
| 09:03.21 | Jambon | as they can't do anthying about it |
| 09:03.33 | LinuxNIT | well here atm i can download what i want at school cause they have open wifi |
| 09:03.48 | Jambon | that's cool |
| 09:03.50 | LinuxNIT | only thing to identify me is my mac addy |
| 09:03.58 | LinuxNIT | which i can fake |
| 09:04.00 | LinuxNIT | mwhahahahaah |
| 09:04.04 | Jambon | UVic has wifi in some buildings |
| 09:04.07 | Jambon | just not all over |
| 09:04.23 | Jambon | UVic = University of Victoria |
| 09:04.25 | LinuxNIT | this summer however it will be restricted :( |
| 09:04.31 | Jambon | ya |
| 09:04.33 | Jambon | same with me |
| 09:04.37 | Jambon | for at least a month |
| 09:04.46 | Jambon | i used to live in wisconsin |
| 09:04.54 | Jambon | and before that bc again |
| 09:05.08 | Jambon | i never got any letters or whatever |
| 09:05.17 | Jambon | but it did put a cloud over things |
| 09:05.54 | LinuxNIT | well once its restricted i wont download ANY songs |
| 09:07.38 | LinuxNIT | actually all ive been downlaodin lately is distros lol |
| 09:09.09 | Orvalitux | well... I have to leave.. I must concentrate myself on the course... |
| 09:09.17 | Jambon | well i doubt vista will preven the downloading of song |
| 09:09.32 | LinuxNIT | no but possibly the playing or burning |
| 09:09.40 | LinuxNIT | but i dunno |
| 09:09.40 | Jambon | it's just got insane protections for content which is already protected |
| 09:09.43 | LinuxNIT | later Orvalitux |
| 09:09.51 | LinuxNIT | like? |
| 09:09.59 | Orvalitux | have a nice day/night to you all.. |
| 09:09.59 | Jambon | well maybe burning |
| 09:10.01 | Jambon | or ripping |
| 09:10.06 | Jambon | but downloading no |
| 09:10.09 | LinuxNIT | ah |
| 09:10.26 | Jambon | because things like bittorrent DO have legal uses |
| 09:10.45 | Jambon | and they have no legal way of finding out whether you own the songs you're downloading or not |
| 09:11.07 | LinuxNIT | i wouldnt bank on that but i dont know |
| 09:11.44 | LinuxNIT | heckk the use limewire to take screenshots of your pc to use in court to prove you downloaded songs |
| 09:12.40 | Jambon | well that's not M$ fault |
| 09:13.09 | LinuxNIT | no but im just saying that if they do that in limewire who know whats in the bittorent progams |
| 09:13.35 | LinuxNIT | but like i said i dont know thats just what ive heard |
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| 09:13.46 | Jambon | ya i think you're a bit confused |
| 09:13.57 | LinuxNIT | oj |
| 09:13.58 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 09:14.01 | Jambon | they can use torrent trackers so find if you're uploading it |
| 09:14.04 | Jambon | which is illegal |
| 09:14.26 | Jambon | with limewire they just look for songs and then search a user to see what he is sharing |
| 09:14.35 | Jambon | nothing you or I coudn't do |
| 09:14.52 | LinuxNIT | unless the screen shot thing is true |
| 09:15.27 | Jambon | the only difference in the states is that ISPs have to give over the names of people who's IPs are suspected of filesharing |
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| 09:16.43 | LinuxNIT | well i gtg to bed |
| 09:16.47 | Jambon | mkay |
| 09:16.49 | mchasard | hi |
| 09:16.54 | LinuxNIT | ni |
| 09:16.55 | LinuxNIT | hi |
| 09:16.57 | Jambon | hi |
| 09:16.58 | LinuxNIT | bye |
| 09:17.00 | LinuxNIT | night all |
| 09:17.01 | Jambon | bye |
| 09:17.04 | Jambon | night |
| 09:17.05 | mchasard | to bed hum i just awake ... ;-) |
| 09:17.17 | Jambon | ya timezone are fun |
| 09:17.20 | LinuxNIT | thats cuase youre confused |
| 09:17.23 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 09:17.28 | LinuxNIT | hehehehe |
| 09:17.32 | LinuxNIT | kiddin |
| 09:17.34 | LinuxNIT | night |
| 09:17.39 | Jambon | night |
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| 10:15.55 | lordbambi | goodmorning |
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| 10:54.56 | Schamane | moin |
| 10:55.15 | Schamane | is the new release of 0.4 uploaded now? |
| 10:56.11 | Schamane | everybody`s sleeping? |
| 10:57.18 | pyc | all went for a snack ;) |
| 10:58.34 | Schamane | you are here ;) |
| 10:59.01 | Schamane | is the new release already uploaded? |
| 11:01.00 | ThanaZzzz | 1 hour remain |
| 11:01.07 | ThanaZzzz | Gwildor|work ping |
| 11:03.43 | pyc | udp packet lost, pong... :) |
| 11:10.17 | Schamane | ok, then i have to wait one hour more |
| 11:10.46 | Schamane | and than anyone will create an torrent? |
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| 11:44.18 | RubenHaugan | exit |
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| 12:15.00 | pyc1 | i think theres a problem wit gnomebaker |
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| 12:20.58 | kr1stof | http://wiki.elivecd.org/en/wiki/useful_commands |
| 12:21.21 | kr1stof | pyc1: Would this command mentioned there help? |
| 12:23.35 | pyc1 | i'll try, it does burn an iso, but it does not finish the whole process of burning.. |
| 12:23.55 | pyc1 | and it hangs... |
| 12:25.13 | kr1stof | If Gnome-Baker gives you problems, try to remove/reinstall it: |
| 12:25.13 | kr1stof | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:25.53 | kr1stof | Try this, (as mentioned in the link I posted). |
| 12:26.26 | pyc1 | yes, i will in just a moment |
| 12:27.32 | kr1stof | It's a hint by ThanaZzzz himself. He should know. ;-) |
| 12:28.22 | pyc1 | :) , is 0.4 finished uploaded? |
| 12:30.21 | kr1stof | AFAIK not yet |
| 12:49.58 | Schamane | so here i am |
| 12:50.08 | Schamane | again, is 0.4 up? |
| 12:53.13 | Schamane | it seems not |
| 12:56.41 | dererk | Which kernel are you running there? |
| 12:58.02 | pyc1 | i think it still 2.6.12 :) |
| 12:58.15 | dererk | But are you using the default one? |
| 12:59.19 | pyc1 | i think its the default... |
| 13:21.36 | dererk | strange |
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| 13:26.34 | CGA | moo all =) |
| 13:32.15 | wasynyt | afternoon |
| 13:33.07 | Begasus | moo |
| 13:34.45 | lordbambi | anybody know how to mount an iso file writable?? if it is possible |
| 13:46.00 | kr1stof | I don't think it's possible to mount an iso writable. |
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| 13:48.37 | lordbambi | any idea wich kind of image is writable? |
| 13:48.59 | lordbambi | or what linux software can be used to write to an iso image? |
| 14:07.17 | Gwildor|work | ThanaZzzz, i am rdy whenever you are |
| 14:07.36 | Gwildor|work | lordbambi, cdrecord....bashburn....k3b |
| 14:10.23 | lordbambi | those allow you ro record an iso. i want to modify the iso file itself.... |
| 14:10.30 | eshep | yeah, whos not... |
| 14:11.00 | Begasus | create a new one .. |
| 14:11.11 | Begasus | copy the contants over (with modification) |
| 14:11.14 | Begasus | burn .. |
| 14:11.16 | Begasus | ready ;) |
| 14:11.18 | lordbambi | not an option.... |
| 14:11.43 | Begasus | what is .. creating or burning? |
| 14:11.45 | lordbambi | i would like to mount an iso file or image file, go to the directory and delete or add a file |
| 14:11.59 | Begasus | you should be able to do that in linux |
| 14:12.06 | Gwildor|work | Begasus, i know on windows i can urar an iso with winrar......maybe can do that in nix |
| 14:12.16 | Gwildor|work | oops... lordbambi |
| 14:12.36 | Gwildor|work | lordbambi, but, i think in linux, you need to mount it, and do some loopback stuff...something....ask google |
| 14:12.41 | lordbambi | well you can mount an iso file, but then it is read only |
| 14:12.49 | Begasus | mount -t iso9660 -o loop,user image.iso /wheretomount |
| 14:12.53 | kr1stof | There was something like mount loop iso |
| 14:12.55 | Begasus | ah .. |
| 14:13.08 | lordbambi | yep, but then it is read only |
| 14:13.08 | kr1stof | Ah - Begasus got it |
| 14:13.25 | kr1stof | copy and rebuild a new one |
| 14:13.35 | lordbambi | mount -t iso9660 ./test.iso /mnt/isofile -o loop (this is the command) |
| 14:14.13 | lordbambi | kristof i want to modify the iso file, not create a new one |
| 14:14.51 | kr1stof | But if you copy what you need, can't you add something too before making a new iso? |
| 14:15.54 | Begasus | exactly ... that's how it's done by creating R5 PE images |
| 14:15.59 | lordbambi | i don't want to make a new iso, i want to modify the existing one |
| 14:16.00 | kr1stof | hehe |
| 14:16.54 | Begasus | try'd this? writable = yes |
| 14:16.59 | lordbambi | doesn't work |
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| 14:17.25 | lordbambi | i get the comment: iso9660 is non writable (or something like that) |
| 14:21.48 | Begasus | hmm this one is not so easy it seems ... :) |
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| 14:29.54 | mndctrl | where can I get the fantastic looking wallpaper from the last added screenshot on elive website? |
| 14:29.58 | mndctrl | the space-one... |
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| 14:34.07 | Schamane | me again |
| 14:34.21 | Schamane | is 0.4 uploaded? |
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| 14:35.14 | kr1stof | A bit more patience wouldn't hurt. |
| 14:35.25 | Schamane | hehe |
| 14:35.57 | Schamane | now i have to go, it was the last time i asked until evening |
| 14:36.08 | kr1stof | I guess it would be displayed in the topic as sonn as it is online |
| 14:36.09 | Schamane | just wanna start the download before |
| 14:36.20 | Schamane | thx |
| 14:36.21 | kr1stof | :-D |
| 14:38.04 | kr1stof | It seems, the Germans are the most impatient ppl. ;-) |
| 14:38.42 | Begasus | how's that kr1stof? |
| 14:39.25 | kr1stof | No idea |
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| 14:40.45 | kr1stof | Hehe I just noticed "Schamane" ist German, and he keeps on coming here several times, just to ask when the version 0.4 would be ready for download |
| 14:41.09 | kr1stof | and leaving immidiately |
| 14:41.11 | kr1stof | :-D |
| 14:41.25 | Begasus | ;) |
| 14:41.32 | Begasus | well the aren't all the same |
| 14:41.52 | kr1stof | All the same - I can tell ;-) |
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| 14:44.03 | Begasus | lordbambi |
| 14:44.05 | Begasus | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:44.05 | Begasus | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:44.10 | Begasus | could that work? |
| 14:44.15 | lordbambi | hold on |
| 14:44.26 | Begasus | http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/mount.8.html |
| 14:44.47 | Begasus | don't know if it aplies on iso files ... |
| 14:44.58 | lordbambi | nope |
| 14:45.10 | lordbambi | doesn't work with iso files |
| 14:45.43 | Begasus | (except that it is read-only, of course). |
| 14:45.55 | Begasus | seems you can't mount them as writable |
| 14:46.06 | Begasus | in case of iso9000 |
| 14:46.50 | lordbambi | yep... |
| 14:49.24 | Begasus | so best option to change the iso would be to create a new one ;) |
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| 14:59.49 | wasynyt | when is the elive final iso torrent going to be released? |
| 15:01.24 | Begasus | there will be announcement on the site I think ... |
| 15:01.34 | Begasus | maybe when ThanaZzzz is awake :P |
| 15:02.04 | wasynyt | elive.org? k |
| 15:02.17 | Begasus | gtg .. |
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| 15:02.19 | Begasus | bbl |
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| 15:14.15 | mndctrl | what is the difference between having multiple desktops, and having multiple virtual desktops? |
| 15:14.31 | mndctrl | does one require more memory then the other etc? |
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| 15:24.14 | Elive_user29 | no gvim, no emacs ? |
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| 15:26.25 | dererk | You have Scite Elive_user29 |
| 15:30.17 | bouba_diop | unfortunately elive has not been still released.... |
| 15:30.44 | Gwildor|work | shouldbe out today-ish |
| 15:30.53 | Gwildor|work | im jsut waiting for thana to show up |
| 15:31.04 | bouba_diop | ish?:D |
| 15:31.15 | Rasko|nikov | hi |
| 15:31.20 | bouba_diop | hi |
| 15:31.36 | Rasko|nikov | does anybody know how to make xbindkeys work when running fullscreen apps? |
| 15:32.38 | Gwildor|work | hmm, it seems he hasnt uploaded yet........atleast not to places i know of |
| 15:33.19 | Gwildor|work | bouba_diop, thana told me yesterday...botu this time.....it would be done in six hours.......it still anst rdy last nite........so hopefully it will be done today |
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| 15:33.56 | Gwildor|work | bouba_diop, although there was a huge etch update....so who knows, i havent spoken to him for about 15 hours.......who knows what decisions he has made |
| 15:34.31 | bouba_diop | ok thanks |
| 15:34.41 | bouba_diop | congratulation for th good works! |
| 15:36.38 | Gwildor|work | heh, yeah, umm, i make the torrents :P |
| 15:37.15 | bouba_diop | goooooood, download with torrents is too fast;) |
| 15:42.16 | wasynyt | hmm.. what does etch do? |
| 15:43.04 | Gwildor|work | etch is the version of debian that elive uses as a base |
| 15:43.25 | wasynyt | ah.. ok |
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| 15:52.21 | r3tex | hot damn, this is a nice cd :D |
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| 15:54.08 | r3tex | is evidence useable or is it still beta? |
| 15:54.19 | r3tex | also the nice eterm, how is that cool see-thru effect being done? |
| 15:55.29 | Gwildor|work | r3tex, i havent crashed evidence yet.......... |
| 15:55.43 | Gwildor|work | r3tex, transparency.......works other paces as well.... |
| 15:56.39 | r3tex | hmm, doesn`t look like real transparency now that i check |
| 15:56.47 | r3tex | seems like it`s windowing another image or something |
| 15:56.51 | r3tex | one that`s allready blurred |
| 15:57.23 | r3tex | mabie not |
| 15:57.25 | Gwildor|work | no sir...change the background..... |
| 15:57.43 | r3tex | yeah, i just noticed. but changing the theme does not change the background :P |
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| 15:57.46 | Gwildor|work | its a "real" as its getting |
| 15:58.07 | CGA | no it's not real transparency |
| 15:58.14 | CGA | fake is the exact term |
| 15:58.20 | Gwildor|work | virtual... |
| 15:58.25 | CGA | nope |
| 15:58.35 | CGA | trhat is called fake transparency |
| 15:58.38 | CGA | Sir |
| 15:59.12 | Gwildor|work | being a dick...we can fight :P |
| 15:59.30 | r3tex | bah |
| 15:59.50 | CGA | ok i'll be a vagina and we can make lve not war ;) |
| 16:00.00 | Gwildor|work | heh, as long as ur the vagina :P |
| 16:00.15 | CGA | virtual sex doesn't hurt |
| 16:00.26 | r3tex | the question is, if i install this, what are the default configurations? like the framebuffer splashes and stuff at boot? |
| 16:00.33 | r3tex | are they exactly the same as the livecd? |
| 16:00.39 | CGA | pretty most yes |
| 16:00.39 | Gwildor|work | basically |
| 16:00.50 | CGA | anyway wait for 0.4 to come out |
| 16:00.55 | CGA | i mean stable release |
| 16:01.00 | CGA | improved and the likes |
| 16:01.13 | CGA | especially the installer has been fixed |
| 16:01.21 | CGA | i really suggest you do wait |
| 16:01.36 | Gwildor|work | yes, plz do wait |
| 16:02.50 | Gwildor|work | heh,,, |
| 16:02.53 | r3tex | hmmm |
| 16:03.14 | r3tex | are there dependency problems in etch? |
| 16:03.23 | r3tex | in apt, i`ve only tested debian stable |
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| 16:04.57 | IcedEarth | is anyone around? |
| 16:05.01 | CGA | no |
| 16:05.09 | CGA | at least not me |
| 16:05.12 | CGA | :P |
| 16:05.35 | IcedEarth | oh |
| 16:05.50 | IcedEarth | has anyone had any issues with gmplayer or mplayer |
| 16:06.00 | IcedEarth | It fails to launch from xfe |
| 16:06.05 | IcedEarth | and xmms is problematic as well |
| 16:07.10 | CGA | i think ThanaZzzz knows about it and perhaps he has fixed it too. but remind him anyway |
| 16:10.44 | IcedEarth | ok |
| 16:10.44 | IcedEarth | cool |
| 16:10.45 | IcedEarth | are there any updates I can do with synaptic |
| 16:10.45 | IcedEarth | apt-get |
| 16:10.46 | IcedEarth | on 0.4pre yet? |
| 16:11.01 | CGA | i don't know |
| 16:11.23 | CGA | but i know that ThanaZzzz adviced to everyone asking , to re-install the 0.4 stable |
| 16:12.25 | pr0t0cod7 | Gwildor|work: you there? |
| 16:12.45 | Gwildor|work | yessir |
| 16:12.46 | IcedEarth | is there another .iso |
| 16:12.48 | IcedEarth | to download |
| 16:12.52 | Gwildor|work | not yet |
| 16:12.53 | IcedEarth | different to 0.4pre |
| 16:12.55 | IcedEarth | ah |
| 16:12.58 | IcedEarth | I have been away for a few days |
| 16:13.00 | IcedEarth | and am behind |
| 16:13.03 | IcedEarth | on current events |
| 16:13.04 | Gwildor|work | :) |
| 16:13.10 | Gwildor|work | waiting on thana to show up today |
| 16:13.20 | Gwildor|work | the way he was talking yesterday..it should be rdy today |
| 16:13.56 | pr0t0cod7 | Gwildor|work: do you see pv msgs? |
| 16:14.04 | Gwildor|work | :)...do you see mine? |
| 16:14.11 | CGA | i do see both |
| 16:14.19 | pr0t0cod7 | Gwildor|work: oh =) |
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| 16:18.19 | Gwildor|work | ok, thana DID uplaod.....i am DLing now...but i WILL NOT release the torrent untill thana shows up, and gives the ok... |
| 16:18.29 | Gwildor|work | nor will i give the address for where i am DLing form... |
| 16:18.35 | Gwildor|work | be aptient |
| 16:20.22 | pr0t0cod7 | me neither! |
| 16:20.25 | pr0t0cod7 | =) |
| 16:21.05 | Gwildor|work | ty |
| 16:21.15 | wasynyt | cant wait :D |
| 16:26.04 | r3tex | wow blue eyed theme was messed up |
| 16:26.48 | r3tex | woh, carbon theme was really nice |
| 16:30.21 | r3tex | is there a way for me to turn the .edj backgrounds to a .jpg? |
| 16:30.30 | r3tex | i really like this one static background :P |
| 16:31.03 | pr0t0cod7 | r3tex: theres something called edje_thumb |
| 16:31.22 | r3tex | ok :D |
| 16:31.29 | pr0t0cod7 | r3tex: you could search through the get-e.oeg guide to find something about it |
| 16:31.36 | pr0t0cod7 | org* |
| 16:31.44 | r3tex | ok thanks |
| 16:31.55 | pr0t0cod7 | r3tex: you'r welcome |
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| 17:03.12 | Elive_user2 | hello everyones |
| 17:04.07 | Gwildor | yo |
| 17:04.18 | wasynyt | greetings |
| 17:05.55 | Elive_user2 | I'm interested to build a Morphix Mainmod with e16 & enhance; I saw that Elive do it and perhaps you'll can help me :) |
| 17:06.20 | Elive_user2 | the mod will be with a different software selection. |
| 17:07.47 | Elive_user2 | I have read the Morphix how-to. Are Elive Mod templates/scripts availables ? It can help me to do it. |
| 17:08.09 | Gwildor | heh, we are all waiting for the dev to show up.... |
| 17:08.47 | Elive_user2 | ? Is elive gpl or not ? |
| 17:09.33 | Gwildor | elive.org.................. |
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| 17:12.10 | Elive_user2 | there is no info about the scripts/templates on the Elive web site/CVS |
| 17:12.56 | Gwildor | that was to answer you GPL question |
| 17:13.19 | Gwildor | there is script info....the E17 build script |
| 17:13.24 | Strider | Gwildor, elive 0.4 almost ready? |
| 17:13.48 | Gwildor | Strider, i am DLing the iso....but i havent heard from thana, so i wont release the torrent till i speak with him |
| 17:14.11 | Elive_user2 | I didn't see licence info on the Elive web site |
| 17:14.12 | Strider | :) |
| 17:14.46 | Strider | bbl |
| 17:14.49 | Gwildor | okies |
| 17:15.14 | Elive_user2 | perhaps the template/scripts will be boxed with the 0.4 :) |
| 17:15.55 | Gwildor | some go wake ThanaZzzz up |
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| 17:16.53 | kender | hello |
| 17:16.58 | Elive_user2 | hello |
| 17:16.59 | ThanaZzzz | Yo |
| 17:17.07 | pr0t0cod7 | yo Thanatermesis ! |
| 17:17.08 | Elive_user2 | hello Thana |
| 17:17.09 | Gwildor | THERE HE IS |
| 17:17.18 | Gwildor | brb |
| 17:17.20 | Thanatermesis | me ? |
| 17:17.24 | Thanatermesis | hello all :) |
| 17:17.31 | CGA | Thanatermesis, !!!! |
| 17:17.32 | bouba_diop | hi boss |
| 17:17.32 | Gwildor|work | yes you |
| 17:17.36 | kender | hello Thanatermesis |
| 17:18.02 | wasynyt | hello |
| 17:18.21 | Elive_user2 | Thana : I have a question about the Morphix Elive Mainmod template and build scripts. Are they availables (GPL) ? |
| 17:21.50 | Gwildor|work | GOOD NEWS |
| 17:22.03 | Gwildor|work | TORRENT WILL BE READY IN APPROX 1 HOUR |
| 17:22.43 | wasynyt | horray |
| 17:22.44 | Elive_user2 | good |
| 17:22.48 | Elive_user2 | :D |
| 17:22.53 | wasynyt | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.05 | Gwildor | woohoo |
| 17:23.07 | Gwildor | :P |
| 17:23.34 | Elive_user2 | and about the Morphix mod template/scripts ? |
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| 17:28.45 | Thanatermesis | apt elive-sata pr0t0cod7 |
| 17:28.47 | apt | Do you want to install elive in a SATA disk pr0t0cod7 ? just open this .tgz http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/elive and try "insmod file.ko" for your posible driver or test all, then you have the SATA feature ;) |
| 17:29.40 | pr0t0cod7 | O_o |
| 17:29.45 | Gwildor | hehe Thanatermesis, why you hide the releases on all sorts of different servers? |
| 17:30.30 | Thanatermesis | heheh, first is to make the torrent and after i wait for the mirrors Gwildor ;) |
| 17:30.36 | Elive_user2 | thana : will be the Morph mod template/build scripts will be available in CVS ? |
| 17:30.39 | pr0t0cod7 | Thanatermesis: i could install on "not sata" then copy all the files and change the fstab ;) |
| 17:30.39 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, hehe, im jsut messing... |
| 17:30.56 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2 maybe searching it on the morphix homepage |
| 17:31.05 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, next release...maybe leave me a memo with the url....so i can get the torrent going ? |
| 17:31.18 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2 yes, http://morphix.sourceforge.net |
| 17:31.36 | Gwildor | heh....FLOoD Thanatermesis |
| 17:31.37 | Thanatermesis | pr0t0cod7 fstab ? what need on fstab ? |
| 17:31.48 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 17:32.09 | pr0t0cod7 | change the partitions after install ;) |
| 17:32.23 | pr0t0cod7 | after manual copy of the system :P |
| 17:32.35 | Gwildor | smokebreak....BRB |
| 17:32.58 | Elive_user2 | I haven't found them (Elive template and build scripts) on morphix.org website, cvs. Can you send me the link plz ? Thx |
| 17:34.29 | pr0t0cod7 | Elive_user2: i believe all you need is ON the elive CD but ask Thanatermesis.. |
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| 17:36.09 | Elive_user2 | What I want is the Morphix mmaker template and build scripts used to build Elive |
| 17:36.22 | Thanatermesis | pr0t0cod7 no... one time of Elive can read the hard disk.. normal install... all good, Elive needs just to read/write the sata hard disk, the kernel for the installed system supports perfectly sata |
| 17:36.55 | pr0t0cod7 | Thanatermesis: i know :p |
| 17:37.02 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2 sorry, no exist any similar thing for Elive |
| 17:37.08 | Thanatermesis | morphix works with ibuild and mmaker |
| 17:37.14 | Thanatermesis | but i don't have used any of those tools |
| 17:37.20 | Thanatermesis | i don't like the tools and front-ends |
| 17:37.29 | Thanatermesis | i use the pure console for give all the control |
| 17:37.41 | Thanatermesis | and if i need any "automater thing", then i make my own script |
| 17:37.54 | CGA | Thanatermesis, r0x |
| 17:38.25 | Elive_user2 | thana : :) Can you put your scripts on the Elive CVS ? |
| 17:38.27 | Gwildor | yes, Thanatermesis is the E god |
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| 17:41.38 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2 i don't have scripts... all manually |
| 17:41.43 | bouba_diop | but front-end is usefull for the rest 99% of noobs like me to use linux:D |
| 17:42.56 | Elive_user2 | manually ! What a job ! Can you explain me/on the wiki how to you have built elive from Morphix ? |
| 17:43.07 | KaKaRoTo-KS | apt no elive-sata $1 is Do you want to install eliv on a SATA disk $1 ? Then go to this page : http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/elive and follow the instructions in the README file. It should work just fine, but remember : USE AT YOUR OWN RISKS! |
| 17:43.09 | apt | okay, KaKaRoTo-KS |
| 17:43.16 | KaKaRoTo-KS | apt elive-sata pr0t0cod7 |
| 17:43.18 | apt | Do you want to install eliv on a SATA disk pr0t0cod7 ? Then go to this page : http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/elive and follow the instructions in the README file. It should work just fine, but remember : USE AT YOUR OWN RISKS! |
| 17:45.50 | pr0t0cod7 | ;o |
| 17:46.30 | Elive_user2 | thana : how can devs help you if you do all manually ? |
| 17:47.25 | Gwildor | thana SI the dev |
| 17:47.27 | Gwildor | IS |
| 17:49.13 | Thanatermesis | <Elive_user2> manually ! What a job ! Can you explain me/on the wiki how to you have built elive from Morphix ? |
| 17:49.14 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 17:49.15 | Thanatermesis | imposible |
| 17:49.23 | KaKaRoTo-KS | README file updated |
| 17:49.34 | Thanatermesis | i lost a lot of time less making this and launching the commands, than explain all the steps |
| 17:49.46 | Thanatermesis | and the time is just the thing to Elive don't has very |
| 17:49.53 | Elive_user2 | I'm sure that you have a method, guidelines, important steps,... |
| 17:50.07 | Thanatermesis | <Elive_user2> thana : how can devs help you if you do all manually ? |
| 17:50.11 | Thanatermesis | i don't have devs Elive_user2 |
| 17:50.43 | CGA | Thanatermesis, think for the future... |
| 17:50.49 | CGA | Elive_user2, is right |
| 17:50.55 | KaKaRoTo-KS | gtg |
| 17:50.56 | KaKaRoTo-KS | bye all |
| 17:50.56 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2 no.. all impovisation... all make all the things when i need, if have a problem, i search the solution, if i need a way, i select one... all in the moment |
| 17:51.11 | Elive_user2 | if you want devs help, perhaps it could be good to open more the how-to is build,... |
| 17:51.11 | wasynyt | ye |
| 17:51.55 | Elive_user2 | I'm sure several devs could be interested |
| 17:51.56 | KaKaRoTo-KS | Thanatermesis: btw, drive is not detected anymore, at all! and with all the bad sectors it had, it's just it's not the driver.. + I've been working on the other drive I had (mounted read/write, played movies, etc..) without any problems, and badblocks reports no errors on it... |
| 17:52.01 | KaKaRoTo-KS | bye |
| 17:52.17 | roxville | bye KaKaRoTo-KS |
| 17:52.21 | Elive_user2 | bye |
| 17:52.30 | Gwildor | when did roxville sneak in? |
| 17:52.32 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2 but i don't want... i have make all (for this moments Elive 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4), without help, why i need help now to its finished ? |
| 17:52.40 | Thanatermesis | all the work done |
| 17:52.45 | Thanatermesis | more than 180 own packages |
| 17:52.47 | roxville | Gwildor, probably when you were outside smoking :) |
| 17:52.52 | Thanatermesis | etc |
| 17:52.53 | Gwildor | :P |
| 17:53.07 | Elive_user2 | because elive is composed by free softwares, you don't have build all |
| 17:53.22 | CGA | Elive_user2, that is wrong assumption |
| 17:53.25 | Gwildor | Elive_user2, umm, i dont think this is a fight you are gonna win........its his... |
| 17:53.41 | Elive_user2 | is elive under GPL license or not |
| 17:53.43 | Elive_user2 | ? |
| 17:53.51 | Thanatermesis | <Elive_user2> because elive is composed by free softwares, you don't have build all |
| 17:53.52 | Thanatermesis | of course |
| 17:53.58 | Thanatermesis | i speak only about my job |
| 17:53.58 | Elive_user2 | :) |
| 17:54.05 | Thanatermesis | all the free softwares you found on google |
| 17:54.08 | Elive_user2 | a good job :) |
| 17:54.21 | Thanatermesis | <Elive_user2> is elive under GPL license or not |
| 17:54.25 | Thanatermesis | the Elive work, no |
| 17:54.39 | Elive_user2 | and what is the licence ? |
| 17:54.44 | CGA | once again: Thanatermesis get infoes from a FSFE lawyer |
| 17:55.04 | CGA | Elive_user2, itr doesn't have one |
| 17:55.10 | CGA | that is THE problem |
| 17:55.21 | CGA | no license specified |
| 17:55.24 | CGA | too bad |
| 17:57.24 | Elive_user2 | its bad; in several countries, you (the author) is responsible by the (indirect) damages Elive could do |
| 17:57.35 | pr0t0cod7 | O_o |
| 17:57.39 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2 you crazy ? |
| 17:57.45 | Elive_user2 | no |
| 17:57.51 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2 you are the only responsive of you acts |
| 17:57.54 | Elive_user2 | ;) |
| 17:57.56 | Thanatermesis | Elive don't give any warranty |
| 17:58.02 | Thanatermesis | you use on your own risk |
| 17:58.17 | Elive_user2 | have you done a disclaimer ? |
| 17:58.37 | pr0t0cod7 | Thanatermesis: i put a disclaimer on the new pages...hehehheeheehehe =) |
| 17:58.49 | Thanatermesis | of course Elive_user2 ;) |
| 17:58.50 | Elive_user2 | ;) |
| 17:58.52 | Thanatermesis | thanks pr0t0cod7 :) |
| 17:59.12 | bouba_diop | user2 if you kill a person with your car, the responsable is BMW? CITROEN? FIAT? no.... YOU! |
| 17:59.37 | Thanatermesis | hehehe |
| 17:59.41 | pr0t0cod7 | or drugs |
| 17:59.42 | pr0t0cod7 | :) |
| 17:59.48 | Thanatermesis | good point bouba_diop |
| 17:59.50 | bouba_diop | or both:D |
| 18:00.06 | bouba_diop | you know.... i love you thana:D muahahah |
| 18:00.44 | Elive_user2 | of course but if your BMW have a failure on brakes and causes a damage, BMW can be responsible. In IT, it can be data loss,... |
| 18:01.03 | Gwildor | ok......use at your own riskkk... |
| 18:01.25 | Gwildor | its everywhere..........name a distro that DOESNT say that |
| 18:01.41 | bouba_diop | elive doesn't damage your hw. open your eyes:D |
| 18:02.19 | Elive_user2 | data loss |
| 18:02.49 | *** join/#elive cornelius[cz] (n=corneliu@143.132.broadband2.iol.cz) |
| 18:03.16 | Thanatermesis | <Elive_user2> of course but if your BMW have a failure on brakes and causes a damage, BMW can be responsible. In IT, it can be data loss,... |
| 18:03.17 | Gwildor | then dont use it..... |
| 18:03.26 | Thanatermesis | yes, but if you read the documentation of BMW it says: |
| 18:03.41 | Thanatermesis | BMW don't are responsive of any damage if you have a failure in your BRAKES |
| 18:03.43 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 18:04.42 | bouba_diop | you are responsable of your data. beckup it every day. if you lose a file, try to ask a compensation to microsoft.... muahhahaha |
| 18:05.18 | *** join/#elive Strider (n=Strider@h199.82.140.67.ip.alltel.net) |
| 18:05.51 | Thanatermesis | hehehehe bouba_diop |
| 18:05.51 | Elive_user2 | Windows have a license with guaranties limitations, as the GPL,... Elive have NO license at this time |
| 18:05.54 | Strider | hi ... question ... what is the damn emu for in E17? :D |
| 18:06.17 | bouba_diop | elive is FREE (thanks god), m$ no |
| 18:06.18 | *** join/#elive Schamane (n=Schamane@p54B1F45E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:06.21 | Schamane | re |
| 18:06.22 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2 wrong, the only responsability to has microsoft is for give the telephone of the person to you has buy the computer |
| 18:06.41 | bouba_diop | eheheheh |
| 18:07.06 | Strider | Good morning Thanatermesis Elive 0.4 almost finished? |
| 18:07.08 | Elive_user2 | ;) |
| 18:07.24 | Schamane | ähm dont wanna ask again, but what about the new 0.4 *runaway* |
| 18:07.27 | Thanatermesis | Strider yes, of course :) |
| 18:07.41 | Strider | SWEEEEEEEET//// |
| 18:07.46 | Schamane | hehe |
| 18:08.05 | Strider | can I begin downloading? |
| 18:09.07 | Schamane | me too? |
| 18:09.13 | Elive_user2 | extract from the GPL license : NO WARRANTY |
| 18:09.13 | Elive_user2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.13 | Elive_user2 | FOR THE PROGRAM, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW. EXCEPT WHEN |
| 18:09.14 | Elive_user2 | OTHERWISE STATED IN WRITING THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND/OR OTHER PARTIES |
| 18:09.14 | Elive_user2 | PROVIDE THE PROGRAM "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED |
| 18:09.14 | Elive_user2 | OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF |
| 18:09.18 | Elive_user2 | MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THE ENTIRE RISK AS |
| 18:09.20 | Elive_user2 | TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM IS WITH YOU. SHOULD THE |
| 18:09.24 | Elive_user2 | PROGRAM PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING, |
| 18:09.26 | Elive_user2 | REPAIR OR CORRECTION. |
| 18:09.28 | Elive_user2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.30 | Elive_user2 | WILL ANY COPYRIGHT HOLDER, OR ANY OTHER PARTY WHO MAY MODIFY AND/OR |
| 18:09.32 | Elive_user2 | REDISTRIBUTE THE PROGRAM AS PERMITTED ABOVE, BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR DAMAGES, |
| 18:09.34 | Elive_user2 | INCLUDING ANY GENERAL, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING |
| 18:09.36 | Gwildor | KICK HIM FOR FLOOD |
| 18:09.37 | Elive_user2 | OUT OF THE USE OR INABILITY TO USE THE PROGRAM (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED |
| 18:09.38 | Elive_user2 | TO LOSS OF DATA OR DATA BEING RENDERED INACCURATE OR LOSSES SUSTAINED BY |
| 18:09.40 | Elive_user2 | YOU OR THIRD PARTIES OR A FAILURE OF THE PROGRAM TO OPERATE WITH ANY OTHER |
| 18:09.42 | Elive_user2 | PROGRAMS), EVEN IF SUCH HOLDER OR OTHER PARTY HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE |
| 18:09.44 | Elive_user2 | POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. |
| 18:09.56 | lordbambi | too many caps :-) |
| 18:09.58 | roxville | Gwildor, no |
| 18:09.59 | Elive_user2 | I just wanted to help :( |
| 18:10.07 | Gwildor | why? |
| 18:10.19 | *** mode/#elive [+o Thanatermesis] by ChanServ |
| 18:10.21 | CGA | because licensig is a seriuos matter |
| 18:10.23 | Strider | in future use catch page for large entry |
| 18:10.29 | *** kick/#elive [Elive_user2!n=Elive@unaffiliated/thanatermesis] by Thanatermesis (flood and annoying the channel) |
| 18:10.37 | Gwildor | :) |
| 18:10.41 | CGA | Thanatermesis, bad |
| 18:10.42 | Gwildor | thana is the law :P |
| 18:10.45 | CGA | flood ok |
| 18:10.47 | roxville | Elive_user2, we just want to understand... if you want to help, then you may OFFER your services in this matter! |
| 18:10.48 | CGA | annoying? why? |
| 18:10.57 | CGA | he was talking some right things |
| 18:10.59 | roxville | and they will be greatly appreciated! |
| 18:11.04 | CGA | license is seriuos matter |
| 18:11.19 | Thanatermesis | CGA i have experience with this sort of ppl |
| 18:11.22 | Thanatermesis | i know the steps |
| 18:11.26 | Thanatermesis | i know her mind |
| 18:11.32 | CGA | i nkow there are trolls everywhere |
| 18:11.34 | Gwildor | CGA, cuz all he ahs done is bitch about WHAT THANA should do....... |
| 18:11.35 | Thanatermesis | and roxville, pr0t0cod7 and a lot more of persons are true with me |
| 18:11.42 | CGA | but some thing he was saying were completely right |
| 18:11.47 | CGA | you don't have a license so far |
| 18:12.01 | Thanatermesis | not really trolls CGA, but more "fucking persons with a own interest" |
| 18:12.11 | CGA | in one word: troll |
| 18:12.25 | *** mode/#elive [-o Thanatermesis] by Thanatermesis |
| 18:12.29 | lordbambi | is it legal and possible to just nick debian's license? |
| 18:12.43 | CGA | lordbambi, please don't be slilly |
| 18:12.46 | CGA | *silly |
| 18:12.48 | *** join/#elive Elive_user29 (n=Elive_us@182.77.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 18:12.50 | Thanatermesis | <CGA> annoying? why? |
| 18:12.55 | lordbambi | why not.. i think that is a complete correct license |
| 18:13.03 | Thanatermesis | all this stupid discussion when we need to work for give up the release |
| 18:13.14 | CGA | lordbambi, we are discussing seruois issues on that |
| 18:13.16 | CGA | is not that simple |
| 18:13.28 | CGA | there are at least 2 licenses invcolved in elive |
| 18:13.39 | CGA | end of story |
| 18:13.49 | Strider | Thanatermesis, all this is not interesting to me...I just want to start downloading the 0.4 can I begin LOL :D |
| 18:14.02 | CGA | omfg |
| 18:14.25 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 18:14.28 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@66.139.242.2) |
| 18:14.47 | Gwildor | Strider, my torrent is nearly rdy... |
| 18:14.49 | roxville | hello Elive_user :) |
| 18:14.51 | CGA | welcome back Elive_user29 |
| 18:14.57 | Strider | When a centipede begins counting its feet , he trips..... word from the wise....LOLOLOL |
| 18:15.08 | roxville | lol Strider |
| 18:15.31 | Elive_user29 | CGA : hi |
| 18:15.36 | Strider | coolness Gwildor yesssss |
| 18:15.51 | Gwildor | :) |
| 18:16.34 | *** join/#elive Elive_user2 (n=Elive_us@nameserv1.http-tunnel.com) |
| 18:16.58 | Gwildor|work | well well well |
| 18:17.00 | Gwildor|work | :) |
| 18:17.12 | Gwildor|work | hold on to ur hat kiddies...the torrent is on its way |
| 18:17.44 | roxville | hehe |
| 18:17.55 | *** join/#elive Thanatermesis (n=Elive@36.180-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 18:18.14 | Schamane | quick quick |
| 18:18.19 | roxville | i knew i shouldn't have logged on today... |
| 18:18.20 | Strider | Im shaking with anticipation like a little puppy gonna get a doggy bone... |
| 18:18.34 | roxville | hehe |
| 18:18.49 | lordbambi | is it possible to apt-get dist-upgrade version 0.4? |
| 18:18.50 | Strider | :) |
| 18:18.59 | roxville | the metaphores are falling like a summer rain |
| 18:19.09 | Thanatermesis | lordbambi you don't obtain the same result |
| 18:19.29 | Thanatermesis | in another words, if you want really 0.4, no |
| 18:19.33 | lordbambi | :-( |
| 18:19.37 | Strider | lordbambi, that is not a good idea I think better to have a partition for home |
| 18:19.54 | lordbambi | now you tell me :-) |
| 18:20.13 | Strider | always make separate partition for home |
| 18:20.43 | Strider | never good policy in linux to have home and root share same partition |
| 18:21.11 | Strider | and separate home part makes it easy to upgrade |
| 18:21.44 | roxville | Strider, i and i live to tell that story! :) |
| 18:21.54 | Strider | :D |
| 18:21.54 | lordbambi | i made quite some changes in the /etc files.... :-( |
| 18:22.25 | lordbambi | i'll just backup home and /etc :-) |
| 18:22.35 | *** join/#elive Elive_user3 (n=Elive_us@68.216.10.35) |
| 18:22.37 | Strider | copy /etc to another .... yes like that |
| 18:22.52 | Thanatermesis | Strider better just the parts of you need |
| 18:22.53 | lordbambi | is the /etc debian or elive? |
| 18:23.08 | Thanatermesis | lordbambi debian based |
| 18:23.31 | Strider | Thanatermesis, true not all home is good idea to keep... |
| 18:23.32 | *** join/#elive yawlright (i=yawlrigh@24-52-17-151.sbtnvt.adelphia.net) |
| 18:23.56 | lordbambi | only home i need is thunderbird and firefox, so that isn't a big problem. |
| 18:23.56 | Thanatermesis | Strider and for the home... you need to use the same UID and GID for the files or user identifications |
| 18:24.13 | Strider | yes, that is clear |
| 18:24.53 | Strider | for me, I will back up home on another disk altogether and bring over stuff as I need |
| 18:25.11 | pr0t0cod7 | Gwildor: give me the torrent when its ready, i upload at 100k/s :) |
| 18:25.34 | Strider | I upload at 300k/s |
| 18:25.42 | Gwildor|work | everyone will ahve it :P |
| 18:25.44 | Gwildor|work | almost done.... |
| 18:25.54 | Strider | hurry hurry!!!! |
| 18:26.09 | lordbambi | it's like santa is coming here... |
| 18:26.13 | Strider | im gonna wet myself eheheh |
| 18:27.16 | Gwildor|work | CGA, you gonna seed? |
| 18:27.31 | pr0t0cod7 | Strider: i upload at 100k and i already have the iso! :o |
| 18:27.34 | pr0t0cod7 | =) |
| 18:27.42 | Strider | Thanatermesis, you made the right decision about that licence person...there seemed to be something suspicious...I know you didn't like doing that... |
| 18:27.55 | CGA | Gwildor, i wish io could i'm behind a NAT from my ISP |
| 18:28.12 | Gwildor|work | CGA, WTF>.......fire them |
| 18:28.18 | CGA | true |
| 18:28.19 | Gwildor|work | CGA, arent you paying.......... |
| 18:28.24 | CGA | true |
| 18:28.28 | Gwildor|work | wtf...buy a car with no tires |
| 18:28.35 | CGA | lol |
| 18:28.46 | pr0t0cod7 | Strider: are you gonna seed? |
| 18:28.50 | Strider | yes |
| 18:28.54 | CGA | Gwildor, which ports are used for bittorent? |
| 18:29.06 | CGA | i nkow i can't use Azureus but may be i can use others |
| 18:29.07 | Gwildor|work | idk......mine are open :P |
| 18:29.11 | CGA | lol |
| 18:29.21 | Strider | I use bitornado |
| 18:29.26 | pr0t0cod7 | CGA: you can use whatever ports you want |
| 18:29.42 | CGA | k |
| 18:29.47 | Strider | for me azereus sucketh |
| 18:29.51 | CGA | gimme an howto on the seeding thing |
| 18:30.02 | CGA | i don't use BT very much |
| 18:30.07 | Thanatermesis | Strider i just don't want the ppl search problems where don't has :) |
| 18:30.34 | CGA | mmmmmm |
| 18:30.35 | pr0t0cod7 | CGA: you just have to open the torrent with the iso in the current directory (with the same name as the torrent iso) |
| 18:30.47 | Strider | Thanatermesis, that is right...some things are better not dealt with on the irc by noobs |
| 18:30.54 | pr0t0cod7 | CGA: it will complete very fast and begin to seed |
| 18:31.17 | CGA | how to make the torent then? |
| 18:31.51 | Gwildor|work | rdy......rdy...... |
| 18:31.53 | pr0t0cod7 | Gwildor will make it |
| 18:31.58 | CGA | kewl |
| 18:32.07 | Strider | :D :D :D |
| 18:32.15 | Gwildor|work | http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=1464 |
| 18:32.19 | Gwildor|work | OMFG!!!!! |
| 18:32.24 | Gwildor|work | GO GO GO GO GO |
| 18:32.45 | pr0t0cod7 | 0 seeders :P |
| 18:33.27 | CGA | 1 coming =) |
| 18:33.30 | Gwildor|work | yeah, im not full yseeding yet... |
| 18:33.37 | Gwildor|work | hmm, odd..... |
| 18:33.45 | Gwildor|work | freezes at 99.4% |
| 18:33.56 | Gwildor|work | dont start yet....wait |
| 18:34.08 | CGA | k |
| 18:34.09 | Gwildor|work | im reng that torrent |
| 18:34.13 | Gwildor|work | removing |
| 18:34.13 | CGA | k |
| 18:34.15 | CGA | k |
| 18:34.17 | pr0t0cod7 | :/ |
| 18:34.47 | Strider | pr0t0cod7, It has started...thanks |
| 18:34.59 | Gwildor|work | ???? |
| 18:35.18 | pr0t0cod7 | *shhuut* |
| 18:35.33 | pr0t0cod7 | Gwildor|work: is it good or not? |
| 18:36.19 | Strider | oops stop it then.,..i will |
| 18:36.47 | pr0t0cod7 | Elive 0.4 md5 9ec91bd0a691caf10672628802f07793 |
| 18:37.40 | Gwildor|work | pr0t0cod7, wait... |
| 18:38.04 | pr0t0cod7 | yep |
| 18:38.08 | Gwildor|work | computer lagging BAD |
| 18:38.15 | *** join/#elive LinuxNIT (n=david@ip-129-15-202-208.omu.ou.edu) |
| 18:38.19 | pr0t0cod7 | hehe |
| 18:38.38 | CGA_AFK | gotta eat |
| 18:38.40 | CGA_AFK | see you later |
| 18:38.50 | Strider | pr0t0cod7, the dload from you ok? |
| 18:39.03 | Gwildor | gah....had to reboot |
| 18:39.14 | Gwildor | ill be back ove3r there to finish soona s it boots... |
| 18:39.19 | Gwildor | give me time...impatient |
| 18:39.20 | Gwildor | :P |
| 18:39.49 | Strider | we have patience or we make you a patient LOL |
| 18:40.01 | pr0t0cod7 | Strider: yes |
| 18:40.13 | Strider | pr0t0cod7, thankyou |
| 18:40.17 | Gwildor | :P |
| 18:40.47 | pr0t0cod7 | Info Hash |
| 18:40.48 | pr0t0cod7 | d1cce2f9d7755023c0fb3f093f4e81e62363a3e2 |
| 18:40.54 | pr0t0cod7 | is that the md5? |
| 18:41.13 | pr0t0cod7 | (its on the torrent page) |
| 18:43.16 | *** join/#elive PentooUser_ (n=PentooUs@h-66-134-148-176.sfldmidn.covad.net) |
| 18:43.17 | *** join/#elive Gwildor (n=Admin@h-66-134-148-176.sfldmidn.covad.net) |
| 18:43.37 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, paste me the md5 plz |
| 18:43.54 | rookmoot | pr0t0cod7, juste do md5sum fichier |
| 18:43.58 | Thanatermesis | apt elive-0.4-md5 is 9ec91bd0a691caf10672628802f07793 |
| 18:44.03 | apt | Thanatermesis: okay |
| 18:44.04 | Thanatermesis | apt elive-0.4-md5 |
| 18:44.06 | apt | hmm... elive-0.4-md5 is 9ec91bd0a691caf10672628802f07793 |
| 18:44.10 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 18:44.28 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, you sure? |
| 18:44.38 | Thanatermesis | yes Gwildor, let me verify from the original iso.... |
| 18:44.45 | Thanatermesis | you have a diferent ? |
| 18:45.23 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, /msg me |
| 18:45.41 | pr0t0cod7 | rookmoot: i know, your not following us :p |
| 18:46.00 | rookmoot | yep |
| 18:46.27 | pr0t0cod7 | i think the torrent has a bad md5 BAD bad bad :P |
| 18:46.28 | pr0t0cod7 | hehe |
| 18:47.12 | pr0t0cod7 | 0 seeder(s), 2 leecher(s) = 2 peer(s) total |
| 18:47.15 | pr0t0cod7 | :P |
| 18:47.22 | PentooUser_ | it does...kill it |
| 18:47.28 | Thanatermesis | pr0t0cod7 what is your md5 ? |
| 18:47.32 | Thanatermesis | is correct ? |
| 18:47.35 | pr0t0cod7 | yes |
| 18:47.42 | Thanatermesis | but the torrent not is finished |
| 18:47.49 | Begasus | who is seeding the torrent? |
| 18:48.05 | pr0t0cod7 | Thanatermesis: not finished? |
| 18:48.54 | bouba_diop | there is a little caos:D |
| 18:49.19 | Thanatermesis | apt caos |
| 18:49.20 | apt | it has been said that caos is a woody user too, or a woody user |
| 18:49.39 | Thanatermesis | apt do you like caos ? |
| 18:49.41 | apt | yes, I like caos. |
| 18:49.43 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 18:51.01 | pr0t0cod7 | xD |
| 18:51.09 | pr0t0cod7 | apt do you like elive ? |
| 18:51.11 | apt | yes, I like elive. |
| 18:51.19 | Thanatermesis | :D |
| 18:51.28 | pr0t0cod7 | apt, do you like ebuntu ? |
| 18:51.32 | apt | yes, I like ebuntu. |
| 18:51.35 | Thanatermesis | apt do you like all ? |
| 18:51.48 | apt | yes, I like all. |
| 18:51.49 | Thanatermesis | xDDD |
| 18:51.49 | pr0t0cod7 | :O |
| 18:51.50 | LinuxNIT | ewww apt likes ubuntu |
| 18:51.51 | *** join/#elive mchasard (n=Pierre@glg95-1-82-233-5-66.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:51.52 | Thanatermesis | of course LinuxNIT |
| 18:51.54 | Thanatermesis | apt ubuntu |
| 18:51.56 | apt | hmm... ubuntu is has a lot of users because the lot of pornography: http://htmldesign.dk/mostwanted/img/Ubuntu_Josie_1_ed3_800.png http://www.theonelab.com/files/images/thumbnails/ubuntu-startup.jpg http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3843/18427557718e22857e9rb.jpg http://www.madebylane.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-babe.png Woooha ! Im go to ubuntu ! :D~~ |
| 18:52.53 | mchasard | hi |
| 18:53.09 | LinuxNIT | wow |
| 18:53.22 | bouba_diop | so it's ok tih torrent? http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=1464 |
| 18:53.29 | Thanatermesis | no bouba_diop |
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| 18:53.37 | Thanatermesis | this torrent is bad |
| 18:53.39 | pr0t0cod7 | apt do you like heroin ? |
| 18:53.40 | apt | yes, I like heroin. |
| 18:53.41 | bouba_diop | arg |
| 18:53.44 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 18:53.45 | pr0t0cod7 | xD |
| 18:54.00 | LinuxNIT | apt do you hate heroin |
| 18:54.02 | apt | yes, I hate heroin. |
| 18:54.02 | Thanatermesis | apt do you like masochist |
| 18:54.03 | apt | yes, I like masochist. |
| 18:54.04 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 18:54.10 | pr0t0cod7 | erff |
| 18:54.10 | LinuxNIT | apt is confused |
| 18:54.12 | apt | And you're an idiot, linuxnit. |
| 18:54.16 | Thanatermesis | looooooooooooooooooooool |
| 18:54.16 | pr0t0cod7 | LOL |
| 18:54.18 | Begasus | lol |
| 18:54.20 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 18:54.22 | pr0t0cod7 | mdr |
| 18:54.23 | Thanatermesis | xDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 18:54.33 | LinuxNIT | apt is an idiot |
| 18:54.35 | Thanatermesis | apt too hard |
| 18:54.36 | apt | If the man pages are too hard for you to read (and it's not just a native language issue), then perhaps Debian isn't for you. |
| 18:54.54 | Thanatermesis | apt rude boy today |
| 18:54.58 | LinuxNIT | apt is an idiot |
| 18:55.13 | LinuxNIT | look like that shut him up |
| 18:55.26 | pr0t0cod7 | apt LinuxNIT |
| 18:55.31 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis: /msg me plz |
| 18:55.32 | LinuxNIT | :O |
| 18:55.37 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis: so we can get this going |
| 18:55.38 | pr0t0cod7 | :p |
| 18:55.46 | LinuxNIT | you apted me |
| 18:55.53 | LinuxNIT | whatever that means |
| 18:55.57 | mchasard | its the final 0.4 ? |
| 18:55.59 | mchasard | reallt |
| 18:56.00 | mchasard | really |
| 18:56.14 | Thanatermesis | yes mchasard, in some minutes :) |
| 18:56.15 | mchasard | cool |
| 18:56.29 | mchasard | so i can run the torrent ? |
| 18:56.35 | Begasus | apt change system font |
| 18:56.44 | Begasus | :P |
| 18:57.02 | LinuxNIT | howdy apt |
| 18:57.15 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 18:59.32 | PentooUser_ | mchasard, dont do the new torrent....its bad |
| 18:59.53 | mchasard | yes i see |
| 18:59.56 | Thanatermesis | mchasard the torrent not is prepaired |
| 19:00.12 | PentooUser_ | tahna...check pm |
| 19:00.21 | Schamane | i wanna get an msg too plz |
| 19:00.29 | LinuxNIT | well i gtg later guys |
| 19:00.31 | Gwildor | ./msg nickserv identify 999999999 |
| 19:00.34 | Gwildor | GAH |
| 19:00.38 | Begasus | later LinuxNIT |
| 19:00.45 | bouba_diop | this is an heartbreaking whaiting:D |
| 19:01.27 | bouba_diop | waiting |
| 19:02.16 | mchasard | ok thana |
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| 19:06.21 | dats | hola |
| 19:06.46 | CGA | Gwildor, torrent? |
| 19:08.05 | Gwildor|work | no sir.... |
| 19:08.07 | Gwildor|work | wait for it |
| 19:08.30 | bouba_diop | problems? |
| 19:08.47 | CGA | k |
| 19:09.08 | Gwildor|work | i must re-downlaod..... |
| 19:09.15 | Gwildor|work | i will not be able to make the torrent today |
| 19:09.22 | Gwildor|work | i havfe to take my GF to the doctors |
| 19:09.32 | Gwildor|work | im 15 mins |
| 19:09.34 | Gwildor|work | in |
| 19:09.45 | Thanatermesis | bouba_diop about the email.. you have the problem of you don't have a partition listed on the installer for choice ? |
| 19:10.12 | bouba_diop | eh?:D. the problem was the installation:D |
| 19:11.02 | Thanatermesis | what problem then ? |
| 19:11.18 | bouba_diop | you have fix this yesterday. loo slow pc.... remember?:D |
| 19:11.24 | bouba_diop | too |
| 19:13.35 | Thanatermesis | aha, ok, fixed then, perfect :) |
| 19:13.44 | bouba_diop | yes yes. thanks;) |
| 19:13.58 | Thanatermesis | np :)( |
| 19:15.24 | Gwildor|work | torrent will be rdy in the morning....i have to go now....sorry guys |
| 19:15.40 | bouba_diop | bye gotta eat. bye! |
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| 20:29.14 | Elive_user90 | Hello and good evening |
| 20:29.27 | Elive_user90 | Anyone here? |
| 20:29.27 | dererk | Hello and good afternoon |
| 20:29.47 | Elive_user90 | Hi dererk |
| 20:29.56 | Elive_user90 | how are you? |
| 20:30.11 | dererk | Hi, doing fine, thanks. And you? |
| 20:30.36 | Elive_user90 | otherwise fine |
| 20:30.52 | Elive_user90 | thanks for asking. |
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| 20:31.07 | dererk | YW |
| 20:31.16 | dererk | Have fun! |
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| 20:31.36 | Elive_user90 | do you by any chance know anyone i could ask some support questions? |
| 20:31.42 | mivecz | Hello |
| 20:31.53 | Elive_user90 | hi mivecz |
| 20:31.55 | mivecz | i am new in elivecd and i want to ask smt |
| 20:32.26 | mivecz | elivecd come with a linux os as packet or just the elive (enlightment) |
| 20:32.55 | Liptonice | mivecz, the cd contains an os |
| 20:33.11 | mivecz | which one |
| 20:33.12 | mivecz | ? |
| 20:33.31 | dererk | Liptonice, of course you can. THIS is the place for you |
| 20:33.34 | Liptonice | mivecz, what do you mean? the kernel? |
| 20:33.57 | mivecz | mandriva is os ubuntu is linux os suse is os |
| 20:33.58 | Liptonice | dererk, ok thanks. |
| 20:34.09 | Liptonice | wait a sec |
| 20:34.12 | mivecz | is come with an linux od |
| 20:34.15 | mivecz | os |
| 20:34.18 | Liptonice | mivecz |
| 20:34.26 | mivecz | yea |
| 20:34.33 | Liptonice | linux "is" an os |
| 20:34.38 | mivecz | ok |
| 20:34.40 | mivecz | ;) |
| 20:34.42 | Liptonice | elive is a user interface |
| 20:34.47 | mivecz | yea |
| 20:35.13 | mivecz | the elive come with a linux os packet or no |
| 20:35.23 | wasynyt | hmm.. i think not.. elive is an distribution, os.... enlightenment is user interface |
| 20:35.34 | mivecz | aaaaaaaa |
| 20:35.35 | Liptonice | so, mivecz i don't know what kernel the elivecd is running on |
| 20:35.40 | Begasus | Elive is Debian based distro |
| 20:35.47 | Liptonice | yup |
| 20:35.53 | dererk | It's a 2.6.12 by default |
| 20:35.53 | Begasus | so .. os = Debian ;) |
| 20:35.55 | mivecz | elivecd is diferent distribution? |
| 20:36.03 | mivecz | elivecd is diferent distribution? |
| 20:36.08 | Liptonice | wasynyt, you're right |
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| 20:36.10 | Begasus | you could say yes |
| 20:36.13 | wasynyt | yes.. based on debian |
| 20:36.17 | Begasus | enhanced |
| 20:36.24 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:36.27 | dererk | Debian isn't an OS too. |
| 20:36.34 | dererk | s/too/either/ |
| 20:36.37 | mivecz | cant i install the elive cd in another distibrution? |
| 20:36.40 | dererk | Linux is the OS |
| 20:36.49 | dererk | as Liptonice already said |
| 20:36.50 | wasynyt | linux i sonly the kernel |
| 20:36.54 | Begasus | well Debian is the distro base then ;) |
| 20:36.56 | dererk | mivecz, You can |
| 20:37.12 | mivecz | i have ubuntu |
| 20:37.20 | mivecz | just boot it |
| 20:37.23 | Begasus | we don't blame you for that ;) |
| 20:37.32 | dererk | Begasus, jojojojojo |
| 20:37.36 | Begasus | ;) |
| 20:37.40 | mivecz | waiit |
| 20:37.40 | wasynyt | linux is very basic os.. no user interface (terminal isnt one) |
| 20:37.41 | LinuxNIT- | did they get the final up since i was last here? |
| 20:37.50 | Liptonice | <--- runs SuSE, pcbsd, Elive0.4 |
| 20:37.54 | Begasus | not yet afaik LinuxNIT- |
| 20:37.57 | mivecz | i can use it with ubundu? |
| 20:37.58 | LinuxNIT- | k |
| 20:38.06 | Begasus | tomorow morning probly |
| 20:38.13 | LinuxNIT- | cooool |
| 20:38.14 | dererk | mivecz, You may |
| 20:38.19 | Begasus | well it should according to Gwildor|work ;) |
| 20:38.20 | dererk | If you want to, of course |
| 20:38.21 | dererk | hehe |
| 20:38.22 | wasynyt | you can use live cds on any working computer |
| 20:38.27 | mivecz | any site to help |
| 20:38.54 | dererk | mivecz, What type of help do you need about that? |
| 20:39.22 | dererk | I mean, we could help ya mivecz. |
| 20:39.36 | dererk | That's why we are here, isn't it? |
| 20:39.42 | mivecz | i have install in my hard disk ubuntu 5,10 and i want to use with elive cd \can i install it and use it together and how (any site how i install it together |
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| 20:40.04 | Strider | hi |
| 20:40.10 | Liptonice | anyway ppl, seems im installing this beauty, and i need to set a disklabel on my /dev/sda. which one is natively used in *nixes? |
| 20:40.26 | Liptonice | seems to me msdos not... |
| 20:40.46 | Liptonice | or is it? |
| 20:41.00 | wasynyt | if i remember correctly it is |
| 20:41.30 | Liptonice | Really? seems odd to me, but lets try it then...! |
| 20:41.50 | mivecz | i have install in my hard disk ubuntu 5,10 and i want to use with elive cd \can i install it and use it together and how (any site how i install it together |
| 20:41.52 | wasynyt | well... its only label... |
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| 20:42.13 | Liptonice | hehe, sure is on this baby |
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| 20:42.36 | mhz | hi all |
| 20:42.42 | wasynyt | hi |
| 20:42.57 | mhz | roxville: does e17 follow freedesktop standards ? |
| 20:43.06 | mhz | hi wasynyt |
| 20:43.07 | wasynyt | any grub experts around to help mivecz |
| 20:43.30 | Begasus | grub detects the installed system afaik |
| 20:43.43 | Elive_user95 | anyone know how to tell within elive which version it is...Im not sure whether I have 0.3 or 0.4 pre running...LOL |
| 20:43.53 | mhz | mivecz: i can try, what is it? |
| 20:44.01 | Begasus | so it should add his ubuntu into the bootloader .. but don't quote me on that :P |
| 20:44.13 | dererk | Elive_user95, cat /etc/elive-version |
| 20:44.13 | wasynyt | mivecz i have install in my hard disk ubuntu 5,10 and i want to use with elive cd \can i install it and use it together and how (any site how i install it together |
| 20:44.15 | roxville | mhz, i have no idea... i think so |
| 20:44.16 | mivecz | ok |
| 20:44.30 | mivecz | can elive cd installed in the hard disk |
| 20:44.38 | Begasus | yes mivecz |
| 20:44.54 | roxville | yes mivecz, it can be installed |
| 20:44.55 | Elive_user95 | dererk, thanks 0.4pre |
| 20:44.59 | Begasus | the installer and grub should detect your installed systems |
| 20:45.12 | roxville | if you have only one hard disk, you will need to resize it |
| 20:45.15 | Liptonice | doing it right now, this love has got reiser4!!! |
| 20:45.19 | mhz | roxville: [ogra] there are some statements from rasterman ... "we give a shit on freedesktop ... etc" |
| 20:45.21 | Liptonice | opts |
| 20:45.30 | Begasus | when I look at the grub list on boot I can see that the installer added already the installed systems here |
| 20:45.31 | mivecz | elivecd have all the things of enligment (modules/o |
| 20:45.43 | Elive_user95 | what is the advantage of reiserf4? |
| 20:45.46 | roxville | Liptonice, try to use reiserfs, not reiser4.. it's more stable |
| 20:45.53 | mhz | roxville: [ogra] disagreement is fine ... but refusing collaboration as a whole and reinvent the wheel (even if its shiny) is bad |
| 20:46.17 | roxville | mhz, what are you talking about? |
| 20:46.21 | mivecz | elivecd have all the things of enligment (modules/themes? |
| 20:46.33 | Liptonice | oops, ok. |
| 20:46.51 | roxville | mivecz, yes... not all of them are stable at the moment though |
| 20:46.59 | mhz | roxville: I have been told by ogra, Mr. Edubuntu, that e17 does not want to follow freedesktop's |
| 20:47.34 | roxville | mhz, ok... i actually don't know... they are listed there... that's all i know |
| 20:47.45 | Liptonice | roxville, have you experienced this -unstability in reiser4? |
| 20:47.45 | Begasus | how is it with the mp3 support in Elive? |
| 20:47.46 | Elive_user95 | mhz, maybe it is good they don't follow... |
| 20:48.04 | mivecz | any site with themes? |
| 20:48.12 | roxville | but it is not toally free, no... e has to approve of certain things before it can be part of the e project |
| 20:48.52 | wasynyt | roxville what do you mean? |
| 20:48.55 | Elive_user95 | and...Ubuntu...overrated.... |
| 20:49.05 | Liptonice | Elive_user95 i read few bout the fs, only Mr Reiser and team are still working on it. It is their newest creation... |
| 20:49.11 | roxville | LinuxNIT-, i have ... but that is not important... Thanatermesis recommends reiserfs... and for the best possible elive experience... pls go with that |
| 20:49.21 | LinuxNIT- | huh |
| 20:49.22 | LinuxNIT- | ? |
| 20:49.25 | mhz | Elive_user29: why and how? |
| 20:49.27 | Elive_user95 | thanks Liptonice |
| 20:49.33 | roxville | lol LinuxNIT- sorry! |
| 20:49.37 | Liptonice | yw |
| 20:49.42 | LinuxNIT- | ooook |
| 20:49.50 | roxville | Liptonice, i have ... but that is not important... Thanatermesis recommends reiserfs... and for the best possible elive experience... pls go with that |
| 20:49.58 | LinuxNIT- | ohhhhhhh |
| 20:50.04 | LinuxNIT- | hehehe ::D |
| 20:50.11 | Elive_user95 | Mepis going to follow Ubuntu...please no...not elive... |
| 20:50.21 | Liptonice | Ok ;-> |
| 20:50.52 | roxville | Elive_user95, it probably won't... |
| 20:51.22 | mivecz | any site with themes? |
| 20:51.55 | Elive_user95 | forbid that it does...my experience with Ubuntu is it is very overrated and promoted without the real foundation |
| 20:52.22 | Elive_user95 | better SusE than Ubuntu LOL! |
| 20:52.47 | Liptonice | just tried edubuntu. i like it |
| 20:53.00 | Liptonice | esp for my two year old |
| 20:53.05 | Elive_user95 | what did you like about it |
| 20:53.32 | Liptonice | its got all nice apps for my two year old |
| 20:53.55 | Elive_user95 | programs are opensource not Ubuntu...the foundation is what I refer to |
| 20:54.00 | Liptonice | only thing i didn't like was gnome |
| 20:54.05 | roxville | Liptonice, i have a 3yr old... by then, you'll be wanting to put the monitor on his/her head |
| 20:54.10 | mhz | Liptonice: edubuntu or ebuntu ? |
| 20:54.44 | Liptonice | roxville, by the time they start installing gnome? |
| 20:54.56 | Liptonice | mhz, eDubuntu |
| 20:55.07 | Elive_user95 | kde ubuntu or "kubuntu" is a f**ing joke....so buggy it is pathetic |
| 20:55.19 | mhz | Liptonice: yeah, Edubuntu rocks! |
| 20:56.13 | Liptonice | yes it is rather nice, with a very attractive interfac3e for the ppl it is aimed towards |
| 20:56.30 | Liptonice | the young ones... |
| 20:56.40 | Liptonice | wheres Neil |
| 20:56.50 | Elive_user95 | I tried kubuntu 3 times hoping this "so called" crack development team of ubuntu would get it right....I threw the cds out each time...C.R.A.P |
| 20:57.28 | Liptonice | sorry to hear that, what went wrong? |
| 20:57.29 | roxville | yeah, Kubuntu really sucks... it's so weird |
| 20:57.38 | roxville | that they can't seem to get it together |
| 20:57.55 | Liptonice | really? what then? |
| 20:57.57 | mhz | Liptonice: 6.04 version will ship 3 interfaces (junior, primary, highschool) |
| 20:57.59 | roxville | seems they're just hoping that ubuntu and KDE will draw users to it |
| 20:58.12 | Elive_user95 | Ubuntu caused me to waste so much time...and their irc channel was pathetic too |
| 20:58.21 | Liptonice | mhz, i'm looking forward to it |
| 20:58.34 | mhz | Elive_user29: kubuntu has demanded too much development tweaking than gnome and xubuntu, indeed |
| 20:58.34 | roxville | it sucks... but their forums are wonderful |
| 20:58.57 | Elive_user95 | yes, ubuntu wiki and forums are good I agree |
| 20:59.07 | mhz | Elive_user29: but that doesnt mean it is crap. Devels are putting lot of effort on making it work right |
| 20:59.28 | mhz | Elive_user29: and they are all volunteers, except one that is paid by canonical |
| 20:59.38 | Elive_user95 | do I look like 29 to you I am 95 |
| 20:59.47 | roxville | LOL |
| 21:00.08 | Elive_user95 | hi rox |
| 21:00.27 | mhz | Elive_user29: irc .. yes, very difficult to get help there, but again, it is not the project entire fault, it is irc users. |
| 21:00.43 | roxville | hi Elive_user95 ... i recognize your IP, but... |
| 21:00.58 | mhz | Elive_user95: sorry |
| 21:01.00 | mhz | TAB |
| 21:01.01 | Elive_user95 | trying to change my name but it isnt happening |
| 21:01.14 | Liptonice | i havent taken the time yet to try kde on ubuntu, but i really prefer kde over Gnome. Anyway, i prefer enlightenment over kde, only getting it all together with the dependencies right, like suse had out of the box takes too much of my precious time. so i stick with kde on my ws. |
| 21:01.14 | Begasus | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.18 | roxville | type: /nick newnick |
| 21:01.53 | StridertheReal | I think somehow I am in here twice |
| 21:02.03 | StridertheReal | I am Strider |
| 21:02.05 | roxville | Liptonice, kde on ubuntu... in my experience, is not worth it |
| 21:02.18 | Liptonice | k |
| 21:02.21 | StridertheReal | no no no don |
| 21:02.27 | roxville | not yet anyway... it just won't work as well as they are hoping |
| 21:02.44 | mhz | StridertheReal: gee, TAB almost again |
| 21:02.53 | roxville | that's also the feeling i get after a while... they put KDE on it, and just HOPE that it will work |
| 21:03.10 | Liptonice | same with elive 0.3 and E17, we're developring right? |
| 21:03.17 | roxville | oh StridertheReal :) |
| 21:03.31 | roxville | yeah... |
| 21:03.36 | Strider | hi sorry confusion |
| 21:03.46 | roxville | but... KDE aims to be a more mature desktop |
| 21:03.54 | Strider | must have clicked twice |
| 21:03.58 | roxville | or claims |
| 21:04.13 | wasynyt | i think that kde default theme is awful... |
| 21:04.32 | mhz | roxville: yeah |
| 21:04.55 | mhz | roxville: however, wmaker and fluxbox worked perfectly ! |
| 21:05.00 | mhz | as usual |
| 21:05.08 | roxville | lol |
| 21:05.09 | Strider | kde is good, but get a distro that uses it well , like Kanotix....kanotix is the best debianbased distro with support I have ever used though elive is up there right next to it for me |
| 21:05.19 | Liptonice | like SuSE |
| 21:05.27 | wasynyt | i like suse too... |
| 21:05.40 | roxville | i think mr shuttlebutter will have issues with all the ubuntu derivatives that will be out soon |
| 21:05.41 | Strider | Suse is good...but yast is too slow for me |
| 21:05.52 | *** join/#elive mruiz (n=mruiz@www.3ie.cl) |
| 21:06.11 | Strider | and suse uses a heck of lot of ram... |
| 21:06.17 | Liptonice | Strider you can conf anything by cli |
| 21:06.22 | Liptonice | still |
| 21:06.49 | Liptonice | but it uses a bloody lot of mem |
| 21:06.49 | *** part/#elive mruiz (n=mruiz@www.3ie.cl) |
| 21:06.52 | roxville | yep |
| 21:06.55 | Liptonice | thats true, as kde |
| 21:06.59 | Strider | Liptonice, I know...but why if like Kanotix most is done for you...have you tried Kanotix? |
| 21:07.04 | roxville | KDE wants 128MB ram just to get out of bed |
| 21:07.19 | roxville | gnome around 90 i think |
| 21:07.28 | Strider | Kanotix installs to HD in 5 minutes, no joke!!! |
| 21:07.29 | roxville | maybe a little more |
| 21:07.39 | Liptonice | Strider i havent |
| 21:07.51 | Elive_user29 | hello |
| 21:07.52 | Liptonice | tried vectorlinux? |
| 21:07.59 | Strider | then when you do, you will forget Ubuntu even the name |
| 21:08.13 | Strider | yes, vector is good too, but I like apt |
| 21:08.14 | Liptonice | ok, thanks for the info |
| 21:08.15 | Elive_user29 | is there a GPL livecd with enlightenment ? |
| 21:08.22 | roxville | Liptonice, i have tried vector, it's very nice |
| 21:08.42 | roxville | Elive_user29, possibly pentoo |
| 21:08.52 | roxville | but you can't install it |
| 21:09.13 | Strider | I have used pentoo, but I cannot figure out what it is really for other than testing |
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| 21:09.26 | mhz | well, time to move on to other things, thx roxville ,again. |
| 21:09.31 | *** part/#elive mhz (n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz) |
| 21:09.53 | roxville | Strider, the issue was only the GPL part, i believe |
| 21:10.25 | Strider | roxville, you can install pentoo |
| 21:10.34 | Jambon | so i'm guessing 0.4 will be out tomorrow now |
| 21:10.35 | Liptonice | right, time to continueing labeling all three of my four gig scsi noisemakers |
| 21:10.40 | Jambon | by which i mean never |
| 21:10.54 | roxville | Strider, ok dude, if you say so |
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| 21:11.11 | blufox | Hi all |
| 21:11.24 | blufox | having problem in elive 0.4 on VM |
| 21:11.28 | blufox | any help ? |
| 21:11.53 | blufox | networkconf gives segmentation fault |
| 21:11.58 | blufox | ok |
| 21:12.10 | blufox | is networkconf runnig fine on HD based install ? |
| 21:12.16 | Begasus | no prob here |
| 21:12.19 | blufox | no seg fault ? |
| 21:12.26 | Begasus | nope |
| 21:12.29 | Liptonice | not here |
| 21:12.35 | blufox | ok then i ll try installing it on my hard drive |
| 21:12.43 | Strider | Elive_user29, why the concern about gpl? |
| 21:12.45 | Begasus | the system is online since this afternoon and still running ;) |
| 21:12.54 | blufox | are there any probs with nvidia GPUs? |
| 21:13.05 | blufox | gr8 :) |
| 21:13.22 | Begasus | ;) |
| 21:13.47 | blufox | oh me still stuck to nvidia :( |
| 21:13.47 | blufox | lol |
| 21:13.53 | Liptonice | Nvidia support is native |
| 21:13.59 | Begasus | can go up to 1600x1200 here ;) |
| 21:14.08 | blufox | dats nice to hear Liptonice |
| 21:14.24 | Liptonice | Begasus what radeon? |
| 21:14.25 | blufox | sorry me got a 15' monitor :( |
| 21:14.27 | dats | blufox: what are yhou telling ? |
| 21:14.28 | Begasus | blufox dutch? |
| 21:14.32 | Begasus | yep Liptonice |
| 21:14.40 | blufox | nope :) |
| 21:14.53 | Liptonice | Begasus what type of radeon? |
| 21:15.04 | Liptonice | Begasus Nederlander? |
| 21:15.07 | Begasus | 9600 pro |
| 21:15.18 | Liptonice | pciX? |
| 21:15.24 | Begasus | nope agp |
| 21:15.37 | Liptonice | w8 |
| 21:16.07 | dats | i don't understand blufox :S |
| 21:16.13 | dats | don't worry, be happy :P |
| 21:16.19 | Liptonice | hebbie dan 3d support Vlaming? |
| 21:16.20 | dats | and fuck if you can :P |
| 21:16.21 | dats | xDDD |
| 21:16.33 | blufox | lol |
| 21:16.34 | Begasus | waar kan ik dat testen Liptonice? |
| 21:16.57 | Liptonice | weet niet zeker maar probeer eens 3DDiag |
| 21:17.07 | blufox | gtg |
| 21:17.26 | blufox | i hope e17 is working fine with no bugs till now :) |
| 21:17.41 | Strider | I actually think Ubuntu is trying to purposefully dominate the debian flavored distros in a way to stop others ... Mepis jumping to them has me concerned ... it is like they don't want competition |
| 21:17.46 | Liptonice | of w8, wat voor distro draai je? |
| 21:18.09 | Begasus | Elive nu (op de pc) |
| 21:18.15 | Begasus | 0.4 pre |
| 21:18.47 | Strider | dats, please no language...ok? |
| 21:19.06 | Liptonice | what is this about competition? I thought this was about getting the end-user to be able to use a fucking better interface instead of sucking our own mice |
| 21:19.43 | Liptonice | ok, Begasus, ook 3Dsplletjes die je kan vinden? |
| 21:19.43 | Strider | Liptonice, :D watch language... I'm only a child...virgin ears...LOL |
| 21:19.50 | Liptonice | hehe |
| 21:20.17 | dats | Strider: ok |
| 21:20.29 | dats | i gonna shut up |
| 21:20.30 | dats | sorry |
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| 21:20.32 | lordbambi | chromium3d in the games section is a 3d game |
| 21:20.34 | Strider | dats, sorta kidding but cool |
| 21:20.34 | Begasus | moet ik ff naar zoeken dan Liptonice |
| 21:20.35 | Liptonice | ok, Begasus, probeer chromium |
| 21:20.58 | Liptonice | of armagetron |
| 21:21.01 | dats | Strider: i don't understand u |
| 21:21.04 | dats | sorta ? |
| 21:21.05 | Liptonice | is ook 3D |
| 21:21.10 | lordbambi | xorg nativly supports nvidia but no 3d... |
| 21:21.20 | lordbambi | atleast it was like that a couple of years ago |
| 21:21.28 | Strider | dats, I have virgin ears heheh LOL |
| 21:21.29 | wasynyt | elive has nvidia drivers |
| 21:21.42 | Begasus | loopt niet echt snel .. |
| 21:21.51 | dats | Strider: are you a young person ? |
| 21:21.51 | Begasus | dus zal wel zonder accel zijn |
| 21:21.55 | Strider | I am armagetron officianato |
| 21:22.07 | Liptonice | Ok Begasus, lijkt er op dat je geen 3Dsupport hebt voor radeon dan |
| 21:22.09 | lordbambi | yea but are the nvidia drivers from xorg or nvidia?? |
| 21:22.12 | Strider | was #1 in ladder several times |
| 21:22.30 | Liptonice | Begasus wat gebruik je normaal voor os? |
| 21:22.42 | wasynyt | drivers are from nvidia |
| 21:22.48 | Strider | best armagetron player is anumeric... |
| 21:22.53 | lordbambi | is that legal? |
| 21:22.56 | Begasus | main os hier is ZETA |
| 21:23.01 | wasynyt | what |
| 21:23.17 | wasynyt | *what is legal? |
| 21:23.25 | lordbambi | including the nvidia drivers |
| 21:23.47 | Liptonice | Begasus, ZETAlinux? of wat? |
| 21:23.58 | Begasus | was hier ook nog een hack om die resoluties te halen .. heb de tip op het forum gebruikt om de resoluties te halen |
| 21:24.05 | Begasus | neen ZETA is opvolger van BeOS |
| 21:24.14 | Begasus | = geen linux |
| 21:24.17 | wasynyt | why would it not be... including binary drivers hardly does any damage to nvidia |
| 21:24.25 | Liptonice | Heb je standaard op je hd dan? |
| 21:24.33 | lordbambi | yea but i know nvidia didn't allow it a couple of years ago... |
| 21:24.42 | Strider | many new distro incluse nvidia capabilities...it is sort of a grey issue...even Ubuntu includes them with easy access... |
| 21:24.44 | Begasus | die draai ik standaar op de laptop Liptonice |
| 21:24.44 | lordbambi | flash isn't incuded either... |
| 21:24.57 | Liptonice | elivecd has got pretty good native nvidia support |
| 21:24.57 | Begasus | staat op de pc ook maar die draait niet zoveel meer ;) |
| 21:25.12 | wasynyt | well suse ofers both.. so cant be that bad :D |
| 21:25.34 | wasynyt | plus many other free distributions have these |
| 21:25.50 | wasynyt | i think it is kind of silent aprooval |
| 21:25.52 | Strider | don't worry about it so we break the law aren't we all linux hackers anyway Microsoft calls all of you "Viruses" |
| 21:26.12 | Strider | you are VIruses!!! |
| 21:26.32 | wasynyt | i thought we were kommunists |
| 21:26.37 | Liptonice | Strider i don't think so |
| 21:26.49 | lordbambi | communist VIrusses :-) |
| 21:26.56 | Begasus | jikes |
| 21:26.56 | wasynyt | ;D |
| 21:26.58 | lordbambi | with long grey beards |
| 21:27.02 | Strider | Liptonice, what don't you think so? |
| 21:27.22 | Liptonice | i think we're VeryImportantRUSSIANS |
| 21:27.38 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 21:28.02 | Strider | I tell you from good research, Mr. Mundie, MS president refered to opensource as a "Virus" |
| 21:28.25 | wasynyt | or cancer and linux hackers communists... |
| 21:28.42 | Strider | Bill backpedalled from Mundies statement somewaht |
| 21:28.43 | Liptonice | yea, and ms winblows was a piece of spyware disguised as an OS? |
| 21:29.14 | Strider | Window causes people to break the law...literally |
| 21:29.25 | wasynyt | how? |
| 21:29.39 | Strider | oem versions are one small step from piratef=ships |
| 21:29.53 | Liptonice | don't pirate then! |
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| 21:30.28 | Strider | if you read the licence, you cannot install them twice even to restore without strict permission |
| 21:30.32 | Liptonice | why copy a piece of software you don't use? |
| 21:31.07 | Begasus | good point |
| 21:31.15 | Strider | so, if you like to reformat, call MS to get permission or you are a pirate |
| 21:31.39 | wasynyt | force activation and product keys.. argh |
| 21:32.08 | Strider | and no way to run on two machines, because you never never never own the software u use |
| 21:32.09 | Liptonice | inferior software |
| 21:32.35 | Strider | MS software owns you according to them |
| 21:33.11 | Strider | You have a licence to use it with very strict limitations |
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| 21:33.39 | lordbambi | did you know you're not allowed to open up an XBOX |
| 21:33.44 | Liptonice | you own the air that you breathe, you don't have to let anyone scare you if you don't want that |
| 21:33.45 | Strider | dont try to adjust a program by the code, or you are a damn hack and pirate |
| 21:35.44 | sinplomo | Strider, same thing with PS2 |
| 21:35.59 | Strider | well my diatribe is over let me catch my breath thanks for not booting me for flooding LOL |
| 21:36.13 | Strider | sinplomo, yes I know |
| 21:36.20 | Strider | good point |
| 21:37.06 | Strider | proprietary software is a slippery slope that ends up in capitalistic dictatorship |
| 21:37.59 | Liptonice | Strider why agonize against something that is not worth the attention? |
| 21:38.14 | Strider | "intellectual property" with the aid of computers means every single thought and part of a thought will be owned... |
| 21:38.27 | wasynyt | agree |
| 21:38.32 | wasynyt | :( |
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| 21:39.40 | Strider | Liptonice, I'm not agonizing really just responding to those who will come in here to spy on our freedom and bring fears about gpl issues |
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| 21:40.50 | sinplomo | Strider, http://www.theage.com.au/news/breaking/playstation-mods-ruled-legal/2005/10/06/1128562920702.html |
| 21:41.42 | Liptonice | ok, for the moment i was thinking you were a secret micro$oft agent smith coming here and disguising as a paramilitary geek. Then i thought you were a paranoid geek. Now i know you're a brother in arms! |
| 21:41.49 | lordbambi | proprietary software is a slippery slope that ends up in capitalistic dictatorship...VIVA EL PRESIDENTE |
| 21:41.54 | lordbambi | :-) |
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| 21:45.17 | Strider | sinplomo, I read that article it is a good example |
| 21:46.41 | Strider | or I should say a bad example |
| 21:46.50 | wasynyt | ? |
| 21:46.56 | Jambon | well it's not the norm |
| 21:47.04 | Jambon | most of the time mods are ruled illegal |
| 21:47.23 | Jambon | i think someone was convicted for selling modded xboxes |
| 21:48.02 | lordbambi | it is illegal to open up an xbox.... |
| 21:48.09 | Jambon | no |
| 21:48.12 | lordbambi | just openening it up is illegal |
| 21:48.15 | Jambon | it just voids the warranty |
| 21:48.20 | lordbambi | no it is illegal |
| 21:48.23 | Jambon | i don't think it's illegal |
| 21:48.37 | lordbambi | let me look up the article |
| 21:48.40 | Liptonice | peeps, how do i assign a mountpoint to a partition with gparted? |
| 21:48.57 | Liptonice | <---is too blonde to use cli... |
| 21:50.23 | Begasus | in the installer? |
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| 21:50.28 | Liptonice | yes |
| 21:50.38 | Begasus | no need to specify stuff there |
| 21:50.40 | Strider | I don't think gparted gui can appoint a mount point.... <---maybe I'm dense |
| 21:50.40 | Jambon | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox#Modding_the_Xbox |
| 21:50.45 | Jambon | it's legal to open it up |
| 21:50.51 | Begasus | they are mounted itself |
| 21:50.57 | Jambon | just illegal to mod it so you can copy software to it |
| 21:51.14 | Begasus | no option too Strider you're right ;) |
| 21:51.15 | Liptonice | nope, do i have to mount manually? |
| 21:51.26 | Begasus | not afaik |
| 21:51.49 | Begasus | you are running the live cd? |
| 21:52.09 | Muta | someone knows the port that mozilla use? |
| 21:52.18 | Liptonice | ok, i've partitioned the disks, now when i quit gparted, the installer says i have to assign a root patition |
| 21:52.21 | Muta | its 80? |
| 21:52.33 | Begasus | ah that's another thing ;) |
| 21:52.47 | Begasus | just choose the partition you want to use as the root partition |
| 21:52.50 | Begasus | that's all |
| 21:53.03 | Liptonice | ok, maybe i'm mistaking |
| 21:53.04 | Begasus | the installer assings the / to it |
| 21:54.10 | Liptonice | yea, only there's no partition i can choose |
| 21:54.26 | Liptonice | trying again |
| 21:55.32 | Liptonice | ok, i choose ROOT in this gui and it says i haven't chosen a partition. please run the installer again |
| 21:56.24 | Begasus | in the dropdown list you should see an overview of your partitions from witch you can choose |
| 21:56.38 | Begasus | ie .. hda1 hda5 hdb1 etc |
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| 21:57.12 | wasynyt | good night to all... |
| 21:57.30 | Liptonice | there is no such thing anything near of /dev/sda1, sda2, sda3 or sdb1 or sdc1 |
| 21:57.34 | Liptonice | nighty night |
| 21:57.51 | Begasus | night wasynyt |
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| 22:01.29 | Liptonice | ok, i'm calling it a day. |
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| 22:01.37 | Liptonice | Night everyone |
| 22:01.44 | Begasus | night Liptonice slaap ze |
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| 22:03.07 | ddd_ | hello |
| 22:04.03 | bouba_diop | hi |
| 22:04.32 | Begasus | ho |
| 22:05.24 | *** part/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@ti231210a080-0120.bb.online.no) |
| 22:06.53 | Jambon | hi ho |
| 22:07.02 | mchasard | hi so the new torrent is not ready ? |
| 22:07.07 | Jambon | no |
| 22:07.10 | Jambon | it's never coming out |
| 22:07.13 | Jambon | i've decided |
| 22:07.23 | Jambon | it was supposed to come out two days ago |
| 22:07.29 | Jambon | and it's still not out |
| 22:07.38 | Begasus | tomorow morning afaik |
| 22:07.39 | Jambon | so i've decided to simply assume it's never coming out |
| 22:07.52 | Jambon | my guess is closer to monday |
| 22:08.10 | Begasus | we'll just have to see when it's ready ;) |
| 22:08.19 | Jambon | i'm sick out waiting |
| 22:08.43 | Begasus | a few days never hurt me .. |
| 22:08.46 | Jambon | i keep putting of install 0.3 because 0.4 is supposed to be ready ANY TIME NOW |
| 22:09.01 | Begasus | I'm waiting for a new beta of **** and that is taken some time too ;) |
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| 22:11.15 | ddd_ | new torrent? isnt .4 current? |
| 22:11.34 | Begasus | that one is still pre |
| 22:11.34 | ddd_ | btw does anybody have a milky xmms skin? |
| 22:11.36 | Begasus | not final |
| 22:11.51 | ddd_ | ah you are waiting for the final? |
| 22:11.53 | Begasus | try'd looking in the winamp skins? |
| 22:12.17 | ddd_ | yes i'm searching there but none seems right |
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| 22:12.40 | Begasus | just got the default here |
| 22:13.43 | ddd_ | i've got to submit a bug. the netwok manager doesnt set the ppp speed right. its awfully slow. gnome-pp would be better |
| 22:14.06 | Elive_user | how to change to forin speak in e-16? |
| 22:14.20 | Begasus | language settings Elive_user? |
| 22:14.25 | Begasus | in the elpannel |
| 22:14.39 | Elive_user | yes |
| 22:14.55 | Elive_user | thanks |
| 22:15.34 | ddd_ | so is anybody from the elive team in here awake? |
| 22:15.49 | Elive_user | admin or user configuration in el panel? |
| 22:16.18 | Begasus | can't check atm here .. but you can look into the submenu's |
| 22:16.38 | ddd_ | btw how do you guys manage your unning tasks? i'm missing some kind of taskbar. |
| 22:17.00 | Begasus | devide them over the desktops? ;) |
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| 22:18.17 | ddd_ | would be cool if the ibox would show open windows too |
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| 22:18.54 | Elive_user | and how to use multilangual keyboard? symbol/icon of switch of keyboard? |
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| 22:19.36 | Begasus | don't know what you mean by that .. |
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| 22:20.39 | Elive_user | I will use english, german and norwegian keyboard. |
| 22:21.25 | Begasus | then you should change the keyboard layout everytime you want to switch (I think) |
| 22:21.46 | Begasus | or maybe there is something for linux that you can use to switch layouts |
| 22:22.00 | Elive_user | everytime into el panel? |
| 22:22.09 | Begasus | I think so yes ... |
| 22:22.28 | Begasus | but don't quote me on that .... (I'm fairly new here too) ;) |
| 22:22.45 | Elive_user | :-) |
| 22:24.48 | ddd_ | is it just me or is no email client included with elive? |
| 22:25.28 | Begasus | no thunderbird or so? |
| 22:26.14 | ddd_ | at least i cant find one... no thunderbird no |
| 22:26.54 | dererk | ddd_ would be cool if the ibox would show open windows too |
| 22:26.59 | dererk | ddd_, engage do that |
| 22:27.26 | ddd_ | but i cant rise it |
| 22:27.41 | dererk | why not? |
| 22:28.05 | ddd_ | it shows that an instance is running with a small arrow. but i cant bring that window to front |
| 22:29.06 | dererk | if you pass throw it, it opens over it icon, another one, that you click and shows up |
| 22:29.38 | ddd_ | oh yes :) |
| 22:29.50 | ddd_ | cool :) |
| 22:30.47 | ddd_ | thanks |
| 22:31.41 | ddd_ | if you can show me how i can get embrace runnign too i'll be satisfied :) |
| 22:33.22 | Begasus | g'night peeps |
| 22:34.39 | ddd_ | n8 |
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| 22:35.26 | Strider | hi |
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| 22:35.32 | ddd_ | hello |
| 22:35.34 | Schamane | re |
| 22:36.04 | Schamane | what about elive 0.4?? ;) is it up? |
| 22:36.13 | Strider | Thanatermesis, Im almost afraid to update to 0.4 because my 0.4pre seems so perfect... |
| 22:36.25 | Schamane | me not |
| 22:36.30 | Thanatermesis | Strider 0.4 more :) |
| 22:36.31 | Schamane | so give it to me ;) |
| 22:36.47 | Thanatermesis | Schamane what is your problem ? |
| 22:37.10 | Schamane | i wanna get 0.4 because 0.4 pre is very unstable |
| 22:37.24 | Thanatermesis | Schamane for example ? |
| 22:37.25 | Schamane | and it should be uploaded now or isnt it? |
| 22:37.52 | Schamane | Thanatermesis, if i click on temperature, and click on configuration enlightment crashes |
| 22:37.56 | Schamane | everytime |
| 22:38.08 | Schamane | firefox sometime crashes |
| 22:38.20 | Schamane | my network card just work usually |
| 22:38.21 | Thanatermesis | Schamane solved :) |
| 22:38.27 | Thanatermesis | firefox is normal |
| 22:38.30 | Schamane | Thanatermesis, give me an link |
| 22:38.33 | Thanatermesis | usually ? |
| 22:38.45 | Schamane | yes sometimes it work sometimes not |
| 22:38.55 | Schamane | its an 3com which never made probs |
| 22:39.21 | Schamane | but i like elive so plz where can i get the new release from today |
| 22:39.29 | Thanatermesis | Schamane we don't have for this moments a dowload for the 0.4... we are waiting tomorrow for the torrent, i have uploaded it in a server but the downloads is little limited.. is only for the persons to like to share the iso via torrent |
| 22:39.44 | Thanatermesis | but we don't have for this moments torrent then not is very usable this download :/ |
| 22:40.05 | Schamane | damn |
| 22:40.30 | Elive_user | Thanatermesis, why enlightenment.org is closed? |
| 22:40.34 | Thanatermesis | Schamane the kernel on the liveCD i don't like very much... but the good thing is to for the installation you have a debian based kernel, really better, if you have problems with your network in the installed mode, then i don't have idea |
| 22:40.44 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user dns problems i think |
| 22:40.49 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user try enlightenment.sf.net |
| 22:41.22 | Strider | Schamane, come |
| 22:41.23 | Schamane | Thanatermesis, the installation kernel always freeze with detecting raid on my laptop ;) |
| 22:41.42 | Schamane | Strider, ? |
| 22:41.51 | Strider | room |
| 22:41.59 | Thanatermesis | ouch |
| 22:42.02 | Thanatermesis | raid ? |
| 22:42.07 | Thanatermesis | what laptop you have ? |
| 22:42.17 | Thanatermesis | freeze where ? when boots the installed system ? |
| 22:42.24 | Schamane | theres no raid inside :) thats the funny part of it |
| 22:42.41 | sinplomo | lol |
| 22:42.42 | Schamane | Thanatermesis, yes, i choose elive liveCD kernel in grub |
| 22:43.07 | Thanatermesis | and with the kernel of the liveCD (2.6.11) boots good ? |
| 22:43.08 | Elive_user | yes, ok with enlightenment.sf.net |
| 22:43.30 | Schamane | Thanatermesis, i dont wanna spent much time on that because there`s already another version |
| 22:44.23 | Thanatermesis | yes but... same kernel installed |
| 22:44.37 | ddd_ | has anybody got embrace running? |
| 22:44.46 | Schamane | Thanatermesis, maybe the modules make problems |
| 22:44.51 | Schamane | or i build me an new one |
| 22:45.21 | Schamane | cause pmcia is giving me output that it needs 2.6.13 to work completely |
| 22:45.25 | Strider | ddd_, what is embrace anyway could never figure it out |
| 22:45.47 | ddd_ | Strider: its a module that should check your mail. |
| 22:45.48 | Thanatermesis | yes, the pcmcia thing is normal.. but this is the version from debian... |
| 22:46.10 | ddd_ | Strider: but it doesnt seem to work for me :P |
| 22:46.10 | Schamane | Thanatermesis, yes, but i just would build another kernel |
| 22:46.23 | Strider | Schamane, I called you for private chat but you didnt come... ok |
| 22:46.24 | Schamane | there are so much modules loaded which i dont need |
| 22:47.55 | Strider | Thanatermesis, what in 0.4 is so much better than 0.4pre? Any very very good improvements? |
| 22:47.55 | ddd_ | this %&§$% monitor modul crashes all the time |
| 22:48.35 | Thanatermesis | Strider no improvements.. better things and system, for example languages configureation, entrance... etc |
| 22:48.44 | Thanatermesis | a lot of little details |
| 22:48.55 | Thanatermesis | the PRE version are made for look and search any psobiel problem or ugly thing |
| 22:49.12 | Thanatermesis | and all the things to i have found and the ppl speaked on the channel, i have fixed or make better |
| 22:49.19 | Schamane | Strider, whats up? im in private |
| 22:49.58 | Schamane | Thanatermesis, oh so you are an dev or THE dev? |
| 22:50.12 | Strider | Schamane, make a private room and call me there |
| 22:50.40 | Thanatermesis | apt Thanatermesis |
| 22:50.41 | apt | from memory, thanatermesis is the founder and leader of Elive. http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org |
| 22:50.44 | Schamane | Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer |
| 22:50.48 | Schamane | hmpf |
| 22:51.02 | Thanatermesis | Schamane the dev, yes |
| 22:51.38 | Schamane | oh really? hehe nice to meet you ;) im good in finding mistakes ;) |
| 22:52.25 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 22:52.29 | Schamane | Strider, call me for private or do you get the same message from freenode? |
| 22:53.16 | ddd_ | Thanatermesis: The site states that we should complain on #elive :) so: the networkmanager doesnt add a speed line to /etc/ppp/peers/ppp0. my modem is extremely slow. i would suggest adding gnome-ppp |
| 22:54.09 | Strider | Schamane, join channel #Schamane |
| 22:54.20 | Schamane | Thanatermesis, thats the output of the messages with my networkcard |
| 22:54.23 | Schamane | Feb 15 16:46:46 localhost last message repeated 32 times |
| 22:54.23 | Schamane | Feb 15 16:46:46 localhost kernel: eth0: Too much work in interrupt, status e003. |
| 22:54.23 | Schamane | Feb 15 16:46:47 localhost kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.0[A] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11 |
| 22:54.51 | Thanatermesis | ddd_ to late for this version but i can be posible to make a look for the next |
| 22:55.14 | Thanatermesis | Schamane cat /proc/interrupts |
| 22:55.27 | Thanatermesis | look if you have the network card used by another IRQ |
| 22:55.30 | Schamane | Thanatermesis, now the card works |
| 22:55.32 | Thanatermesis | and if you can be posible... change it |
| 22:57.01 | Elive_user | thanks to all and good night... |
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| 22:57.20 | ddd_ | Thanatermesis: ps: great work! |
| 22:57.37 | Thanatermesis | thanks ddd_ :) |
| 22:58.18 | Schamane | Thanatermesis, if the problem will be back i came back to you :) |
| 22:58.34 | Strider | Thanatermesis, should I keep my home partition from 0.4pre |
| 22:58.40 | Strider | s? |
| 22:58.41 | Thanatermesis | Schamane in any case make a look to the /proc/interrupts, this thing not change ;) |
| 22:58.59 | Thanatermesis | Strider lost ? yes, you lost it, or copy the files and put again |
| 22:58.59 | Schamane | sure i`ll do |
| 22:59.35 | Thanatermesis | ddd_ this graphical program for configure the network is compatible with all modems in general ? |
| 23:00.42 | Strider | Thanatermesis, no, I didn't lose my /home but I am wondering when I get 0.4 should I redo the /home or use the one from 0.4pre? |
| 23:01.05 | ddd_ | Thanatermesis: I think so yes. |
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| 23:01.41 | orvalito | Thanatermesis, sais tu bien que t'as un giga fan de Bruxelles, Ixelles, Matonge, qui vient de tomber dans la toile 0.4pre il y a à peine 72h et que sans roxville et linuxnit, je serais encore dans la Jup' avec ma carte wifi....??? ;) |
| 23:02.13 | Thanatermesis | ok ddd_ , i add this to the list for the next release ;) |
| 23:02.29 | ddd_ | ok thanks |
| 23:02.39 | orvalito | merci bien... |
| 23:03.55 | Thanatermesis | ddd_ and of course it writes on /etc/network/interfaces, correct ? |
| 23:04.46 | Thanatermesis | Strider this is a idea for a future feature on 0.5... but very delicated on the same time, i need to make sure to it works good, not avaible on 0.4 and is just a idea, not sure to are included |
| 23:04.50 | ddd_ | well i did'nt check but it works correct. correct but slow. |
| 23:05.08 | Schamane | but nice ;) |
| 23:05.09 | ddd_ | but if you need this i can check. but i think it does. |
| 23:05.10 | Strider | ok.. |
| 23:05.31 | Strider | Thanatermesis, make sure and get sleep... |
| 23:06.01 | Strider | I go now...bbl |
| 23:06.12 | ddd_ | Thanatermesis: btw is there no mail client there? That would be a feature request from me! |
| 23:06.22 | ddd_ | Strider: bye |
| 23:06.28 | Schamane | ddd_, ACK i recognize that to today |
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| 23:06.41 | Schamane | and i missed it to |
| 23:06.47 | Schamane | thunderbird would be nice |
| 23:08.20 | Thanatermesis | ddd_ yes, i need to know if write the configuration on /etc/networking/interfaces... if not.. i don't think to its very usable on Elive |
| 23:09.09 | Thanatermesis | email client ? yes.. is planet to include one, in the 0.5 version without include oo2 (yes, oo2 deleted by default on the next version, but availaable via apt-get...) |
| 23:10.19 | Schamane | oh withouot oo2? |
| 23:10.38 | Schamane | Thanatermesis, are xou the only dev of elive? |
| 23:11.07 | Thanatermesis | yes Schamane |
| 23:11.19 | Schamane | R E S P E C T |
| 23:11.48 | Schamane | a lot of time |
| 23:12.11 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 23:13.13 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es bows down before thana |
| 23:13.22 | Thanatermesis | apt x en fr bows down before thana |
| 23:13.32 | Thanatermesis | mmh |
| 23:13.36 | Thanatermesis | apt x en ja bows down before thana |
| 23:13.43 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 23:13.44 | Thanatermesis | apt |
| 23:13.49 | Schamane | i dont unsterstand |
| 23:13.55 | yawlright | heh |
| 23:13.57 | Thanatermesis | Schamane apt is just a bot ;) |
| 23:14.09 | Schamane | yes i know |
| 23:14.14 | Schamane | but the language |
| 23:14.17 | yawlright | apt bot |
| 23:14.18 | apt | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 23:15.28 | Thanatermesis | xD |
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| 23:18.40 | ddd_ | Thanatermesis: well I dont know anything about the interfaces file. i deleted the ppp section but it doesnt get added. |
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| 23:21.14 | orvalito | This nasty Shakespeare already loved Linux... : to be root or not to be root, that's the question... |
| 23:21.33 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 23:21.44 | Thanatermesis | good answer |
| 23:22.05 | orvalito | Hi Thana..; |
| 23:22.22 | Thanatermesis | hi orvalito |
| 23:22.48 | orvalito | oki, no french nor wallon tonight... let's be friendly with all |
| 23:22.50 | Thanatermesis | je serais encore dans la Jup' avec ma carte wifi....??? |
| 23:22.51 | Thanatermesis | qoi ? |
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| 23:24.50 | orvalito | tes potes m'ont appris à bien me servir de ndiswrapper... sinonje seais encore dans le Jus..; |
| 23:26.15 | Thanatermesis | ah, parfait alors :) |
| 23:26.25 | orvalito | mais la Jup est tellement horrible...ici à Matonge, on la casse avec du jus de gingembre, comme on met de la grenadine à 16ans... |
| 23:27.12 | orvalito | Fantastic job, you're really briliant.. ;) |
| 23:27.47 | Thanatermesis | thanks :) |
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| 23:30.54 | orvalito | If you know friends over Bxl, tell them that every wednesday afternoon, I settle down in Matonge for a workshop on Linux, free and open philosophies .... you're all welcome.. |
| 23:31.32 | Thanatermesis | thanks orvalito :) but im on Liege... i don't run very to brx |
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| 23:36.04 | ddd_ | Thanatermesis: did you get my msg about the interface file? |
| 23:37.19 | Thanatermesis | ddd_ yes, you don't look changes on /etc/network/interfaces, correct ? |
| 23:38.30 | ddd_ | yes but i had them before. dont know what made them but there is a ppp entry in this file. i removed it and it wasnt made again |
| 23:39.12 | orvalito | near Place de Londres, Stoemellings (rare belgian beers café..)... 40, rue major dubreucq..... oki, when I go by my friends in Liège, it's en Pierreuse...How far are you from there...? |
| 23:39.18 | Thanatermesis | with root ? |
| 23:40.12 | Thanatermesis | i don't know where is pierreuse :/ |
| 23:40.26 | Thanatermesis | im in the center of liege |
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| 23:42.21 | ddd_ | what the heck, my terminal uses the X default background |
| 23:42.23 | Strider | Thanatermesis, the new 0.4 took 10 minutes to install to hD |
| 23:44.01 | Strider | Thanatermesis, so far the fonts don't look as clean as pre. any good reason for that?? |
| 23:44.43 | Thanatermesis | ddd_ try the backgrounds-manager on elpanel |
| 23:45.08 | Thanatermesis | Strider mmmh, the fonts? what fonts exactly ? |
| 23:45.46 | Strider | Thanatermesis, different defoma settings? from pre to 0.4? I'm getting a blurriness on the whole desktop...it is not as sharp... |
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| 23:46.19 | Strider | Thanatermesis, let me check my frequencies and color depth |
| 23:46.25 | orvalito | pierreuse is near Liège Palais station, near le marché de l'Abatte...in wich center are you...LOL |
| 23:47.21 | ddd_ | Thanatermesis: still doesnt work :P |
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| 23:49.53 | ddd_ | Ok a relogin did it. |
| 23:55.24 | orvalito | something new to test....? May I download from someone?? |
| 23:56.24 | Thanatermesis | yes orvalito, looks close :) |
| 23:58.29 | orvalito | tell me when... I'm a live-cd lover....and more if it's installable... |
| 23:59.19 | ddd_ | this test filemanager is quite cool |
| 23:59.35 | ddd_ | if all the functions would work it would be better ... :P |
