| 00:00.29 | Thanatermesis | no posible to say a date Elive_user... also, Elive 0.5 has a BIG changes.. and i like to release for it some "beta" version before a official release |
| 00:00.29 | gr8nash | especially NO NO when he _JUST_ released .4 hours/days ago |
| 00:00.55 | gr8nash | Thanatermesis, what kind of changes are you refering to? |
| 00:01.05 | gr8nash | moving to suse? |
| 00:01.07 | gr8nash | lol sorry |
| 00:01.09 | Elive_user | fair enough.. ive only been using 0.4 for two days.. os i was not aware. |
| 00:01.23 | Thanatermesis | also.. is imposible to say any date in a world where a big factor is the improvisation of things of last time :) |
| 00:01.38 | Thanatermesis | gr8nash no... moving from morphix to dss |
| 00:01.52 | gr8nash | hmm ill haveto google dss |
| 00:01.59 | Elive_user | thana.. i completely understand.. software testing is my vocation.. |
| 00:02.06 | pycs | whats dss :) |
| 00:02.28 | gr8nash | yeah whats dss? |
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| 00:02.47 | gr8nash | google didnt come up with a major hit for "dss linux" |
| 00:02.47 | Elive_user50 | Kitanis |
| 00:02.58 | Elive_user | ok.. its been fun going to reboot and install 0.4 now. |
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| 00:03.42 | gr8nash | damn small? <dang> missing an "s" |
| 00:03.51 | pycs | hehe |
| 00:04.30 | pycs | damn small is a great mini :) |
| 00:04.51 | eggman | DS linux? |
| 00:04.54 | eggman | XD |
| 00:05.07 | eggman | linux for the nintendo DS? |
| 00:05.24 | eggman | Elive .5 will be for the Revoloution? |
| 00:05.36 | gr8nash | sweet spread the word! |
| 00:05.42 | gr8nash | heh |
| 00:05.43 | pycs | is it Debased Scripts Set? |
| 00:06.11 | eggman | Direct Satilite Set? |
| 00:06.26 | Thanatermesis | http://www.dsslive.org/mediawiki/index.php/Home <--- DSS |
| 00:06.32 | gr8nash | all the DSS linux stuff i know decrypts dishnetwork signals.. >=) |
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| 00:09.12 | pycs | Thanatermesis, thats a very good move :) |
| 00:09.36 | Thanatermesis | yes pycs, i think and i hope :) |
| 00:09.38 | gr8nash | not that i disagree but why? |
| 00:09.45 | Thanatermesis | a lot better Elive after this move i think ;) |
| 00:10.13 | gr8nash | so morphix is lacking in some way? |
| 00:10.13 | pycs | so it can be esier to costumized, i think :) |
| 00:10.20 | LinuxNIT | whats the move? |
| 00:10.24 | LinuxNIT | i missed that part? |
| 00:10.27 | LinuxNIT | i missed that part |
| 00:10.31 | eggman | http://www.dsslive.org/mediawiki/index.php/Home |
| 00:10.44 | eggman | check that LinuxNIT |
| 00:10.47 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 00:10.49 | LinuxNIT | thanks |
| 00:10.52 | gr8nash | "Thanatermesis gr8nash no... moving from morphix to dss" |
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| 00:12.15 | pycs | with dss, i won't have to request an app to be included, i just do it myself, given the right instruction :) |
| 00:12.30 | Elive_user75 | noticeable speed improvement with 0.4 even running from cd. |
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| 00:13.45 | mutacion | ls |
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| 00:14.28 | Thanatermesis | <gr8nash> so morphix is lacking in some way? |
| 00:14.32 | Thanatermesis | morphix is very good |
| 00:14.36 | Thanatermesis | but i want better :) |
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| 00:14.44 | Thanatermesis | err.... i want perfection :) |
| 00:14.45 | gr8nash | ahh.. |
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| 00:15.28 | gr8nash | im a big beleiver in perfection.. and i think my wife has found it~! |
| 00:15.42 | pycs | and with dss i can go light or heavy on will :) |
| 00:15.57 | gr8nash | app wise you mean? |
| 00:16.41 | gr8nash | that project is sparse on docs =) |
| 00:18.51 | gr8nash | looks neat though.. ill probley try the lazy howto! |
| 00:18.54 | IcedEarth | bye |
| 00:20.49 | eggman | Ok so i have a SATA HD, is there anyway i can install Elive to HD? |
| 00:21.04 | Thanatermesis | eggman you can |
| 00:21.35 | Thanatermesis | enter on e16 and search on the menus "config" -> "kernel modules" |
| 00:25.44 | gr8nash | http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=1471 is codename "serentiy" the same as final? |
| 00:29.01 | Thanatermesis | yes, "serenity" is the final version of Elive 0.4 |
| 00:29.26 | gr8nash | cool |
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| 00:33.18 | nothingHappens | what version(s) are "pre"? I've been using in install of eLive for a while now, how would I know? |
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| 00:33.42 | nothingHappens | Enlightenment 0.16.999.016 |
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| 00:37.41 | Elive_user43 | hey |
| 00:37.50 | ceebz | im wondering if one of you guys could help me |
| 00:38.18 | LinuxNIT | ceebz, just aks your question :) |
| 00:38.26 | ceebz | alright i wanna put elive onto my laptop |
| 00:38.31 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 00:38.34 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 00:38.37 | ceebz | but forsome reason it doesnt allow me to switch the boot order |
| 00:38.39 | ceebz | and it wont boot of cd |
| 00:38.46 | ceebz | it boots on my other computer just not on my laptop |
| 00:38.53 | ceebz | it only allows booting from a floppy |
| 00:38.58 | LinuxNIT | can you get into your bios? |
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| 00:39.02 | ceebz | yes i can |
| 00:39.04 | ceebz | there is no feature |
| 00:39.18 | ceebz | can i make it boot from a floppy |
| 00:39.26 | ceebz | so it knows to boot from the CDrom? |
| 00:39.44 | LinuxNIT | oh crap i used to know how to do that grrrrrrrr |
| 00:40.50 | ceebz | if you find out could you please tell me |
| 00:41.04 | eggman_starwars | its called SMB |
| 00:41.17 | ceebz | i really wanna get win 98 off it and put elive on it |
| 00:41.45 | eggman_starwars | i think, imm looking now |
| 00:41.49 | Elive_user75 | ceebs .. check out Xen |
| 00:41.50 | ceebz | thanks |
| 00:41.51 | ceebz | xen? |
| 00:41.58 | Elive_user75 | virtualization software |
| 00:42.04 | ceebz | no |
| 00:42.06 | Elive_user75 | lets you run an os on top of your current os |
| 00:42.08 | ceebz | i wanna do a fresh install |
| 00:42.12 | Elive_user75 | ahh |
| 00:42.13 | ceebz | thats what im using right now on my current pc |
| 00:42.23 | ceebz | but i want to do a fresh install on the laptop |
| 00:43.03 | LinuxNIT | ceebz, i know this.. i used a dos type floppy disk to allow me to force a boot to cdrom drive. i dont know where i got it or what option iused it was kinda burried |
| 00:43.21 | LinuxNIT | i look see if i can find any thing |
| 00:43.39 | ceebz | if you could that would be exactly what i wanted |
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| 00:44.35 | LinuxNIT | heck i have the disk some where i just dunno wher it is |
| 00:45.40 | ceebz | or could i just mound the .img eLive uses onto a floppy |
| 00:45.55 | ceebz | becuase this laptop if farily old |
| 00:46.38 | LinuxNIT | no idea |
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| 00:48.07 | LinuxNIT | i gotta go eat dinner but read this page it MIGHT have one i dunno i just gooled for it http://oldfiles.org.uk/powerload/ |
| 00:48.26 | Elive_user75 | let me preface this by saying im not an expert here. |
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| 00:48.53 | Elive_user75 | but i dont think there is a elive boot floppy |
| 00:48.59 | Elive_user75 | there may be a debian etch boot floppy |
| 00:49.16 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user75, to force a cdrom to boot? |
| 00:49.32 | Elive_user75 | perhaps. |
| 00:49.47 | LinuxNIT | ceebz, i found my disk but i HAVE to go sorry ill see if it still works and if so ill post in on my page later |
| 00:49.52 | Elive_user75 | ive havent installe debisn in about 3 years.. so i cant say with any degree of certainty |
| 00:50.12 | ceebz | ok thanks |
| 00:50.30 | Pntbllfrk | whats the command to install a .deb file ? bpk or some thing? |
| 00:50.57 | eggman_starwars | dpkg -i |
| 00:51.02 | Pntbllfrk | TY |
| 00:52.04 | eggman_starwars | np |
| 00:52.52 | Elive_user75 | ceebz. so you cant specify in your bios to have the cdrom as the primary boot device ? |
| 00:53.25 | ceebz | no |
| 00:53.25 | ceebz | lol |
| 00:53.27 | ceebz | its soo bad |
| 00:53.35 | Elive_user75 | can you boot from a usb device ? |
| 00:53.52 | ceebz | no |
| 00:53.56 | ceebz | it doesnt have a usb plugin |
| 00:53.57 | ceebz | lol |
| 00:54.00 | Elive_user75 | wow. |
| 00:54.03 | ceebz | :) |
| 00:54.05 | eggman_starwars | do you think you can do this http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:jzDNPQ7eB9sJ:www.goosee.com/puppy/boot2pup.htm+bootable+floppy+disk&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=27 |
| 00:54.06 | eggman_starwars | ? |
| 00:54.08 | Elive_user75 | what kind of machine is this ? |
| 00:54.40 | Elive_user75 | i can think of some possible wacky workarounds.. |
| 00:54.42 | Pntbllfrk | wtf you can boot from a usb stick? |
| 00:54.42 | ceebz | http://oldfiles.org.uk/powerload/ |
| 00:54.46 | ceebz | i think that one is better |
| 00:54.47 | ceebz | http://oldfiles.org.uk/powerload/ |
| 00:54.48 | Elive_user75 | but nothing for the weak hearted. |
| 00:54.55 | ceebz | it seems like i will be able to do it with that one |
| 00:55.28 | eggman_starwars | http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/win98/install/cddos_diy.html ? |
| 00:55.40 | Elive_user75 | you can create a separate partition on your disk.. and make it ext2..and bootable.. copy the entire contents of the cd there.. |
| 00:55.46 | Elive_user75 | boot from it. |
| 00:55.52 | Elive_user75 | install to the other partition. |
| 00:55.59 | Elive_user75 | then just remove the partition afterwards. |
| 00:56.10 | Elive_user75 | again.. not for the weak willed |
| 00:56.43 | ceebz | Windows 95/95a OEM Start-up Disk with added CD-ROM Support |
| 00:56.48 | ceebz | i think that is what i need |
| 00:56.58 | Elive_user75 | no.. |
| 00:57.14 | ceebz | all i need is a floppy that tells the computer to boot from cd |
| 00:57.21 | Elive_user75 | cant install linux from within dos. |
| 00:57.36 | ceebz | brb guys going to subway |
| 00:57.42 | ceebz | not trying to install in dos |
| 00:57.47 | ceebz | just the disk tells to boot from cd |
| 00:57.50 | ceebz | becuase the bios cant or w/e |
| 00:57.54 | ceebz | brb subway |
| 00:58.08 | Elive_user75 | but the problem is.. in order toload tha cd deiver.. it has to boot the windows 98 dos kernel/shell |
| 00:58.48 | eggman_starwars | i think http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/win98/install/cddos_diy.html will work |
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| 00:58.57 | Elive_user75 | cool |
| 01:00.30 | ceebz | back |
| 01:01.09 | hoochymama | i installed the .4 RELEASE and still no wireless card recognized. But, I am back on the trusty .4 pre and im back up. |
| 01:01.34 | ceebz | ok so http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/win98/install/cddos_diy.html will work? |
| 01:01.37 | ceebz | you think? |
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| 01:01.52 | Elive_user66 | yop |
| 01:02.11 | ceebz | looks kinda complicating |
| 01:02.12 | ceebz | ill try tho |
| 01:02.21 | ceebz | i need real-mode with cdrom? |
| 01:02.23 | Elive_user66 | please when is elive will be installabe on sata hard disk :((((((((( |
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| 01:02.59 | Elive_user66 | because am sure it's the beautifulest distro |
| 01:03.06 | Elive_user95 | hi |
| 01:03.14 | ceebz | that looks way to hard |
| 01:03.15 | ceebz | lol |
| 01:03.17 | eggman_starwars | im looking at another way... |
| 01:03.38 | hoochymama | anyone know how to get my linksys wpc v3 wireless card to work in the release version when it works fine in the pre version |
| 01:03.48 | ceebz | whats your other way eggman_starwars |
| 01:03.57 | eggman_starwars | http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List |
| 01:04.05 | eggman_starwars | thats for hoochymama |
| 01:04.18 | hoochymama | but it works fine in the pre .4 elive version |
| 01:04.29 | ceebz | oh |
| 01:04.31 | ceebz | poopy |
| 01:04.35 | hoochymama | exactly |
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| 01:05.33 | eggman_starwars | http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/ch03_01.html might help ceebz |
| 01:05.47 | eggman_starwars | goto section 3.1.2.2 |
| 01:06.26 | saad3000 | hello all. |
| 01:06.32 | ceebz | You can install 'Smart Boot Manager' on a floppy and boot from the |
| 01:06.32 | ceebz | floppy. 'Smart Boot Manager' displays a menu of bootable partitions |
| 01:06.32 | ceebz | and CDROMs to select from. Select CDROM and press enter. |
| 01:06.34 | ceebz | that looks good |
| 01:06.49 | eggman_starwars | Thats what i was looking for |
| 01:06.56 | LinuxNIT | ceebz, you got something that will work? |
| 01:07.06 | ceebz | i think that Smart Boot Manger will |
| 01:07.17 | eggman_starwars | i used that to put Red Hat 6.3 on an old Laptop back in the day |
| 01:07.19 | LinuxNIT | ok cool then i wont hijack my sisters pc |
| 01:07.21 | eggman_starwars | yes it should |
| 01:07.36 | LinuxNIT | mine dosent have a floppy drive :) |
| 01:07.40 | Pntbllfrk | how would I find the XChat folder? |
| 01:07.46 | Pntbllfrk | find / x-chat ? |
| 01:07.52 | LinuxNIT | ~/.xchat |
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| 01:10.45 | eggman_starwars | good luck ceebz |
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| 01:17.45 | saad3000 | k |
| 01:17.46 | saad3000 | how do I make the terminal transparent as the bg? |
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| 01:17.55 | saad3000 | how do I make the terminal transparent as the bg? |
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| 01:23.53 | Elive_user79 | hello all --- it is very quiet here ;-) |
| 01:24.00 | saad3000 | yep |
| 01:24.03 | saad3000 | whats up Elive_user79 |
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| 01:24.42 | Elive_user66 | yaohu |
| 01:25.01 | Elive_user66 | where can i find the elive-0.4-sata package please? |
| 01:25.03 | Elive_user79 | im going to attempt to install elive |
| 01:25.18 | Elive_user66 | not in synaptic ! |
| 01:25.42 | Elive_user66 | :) |
| 01:25.53 | saad3000 | mm dunno. |
| 01:26.01 | saad3000 | someone will answer you. |
| 01:26.26 | dererk | Elive_user66 you have to update, and then search for it |
| 01:26.40 | Elive_user66 | already done |
| 01:26.46 | Elive_user66 | a apt-get update |
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| 01:29.12 | dererk | apt-get update && apt-cache search sata |
| 01:29.20 | Elive_user | Is there any way to (easily) upgrade to Firefox 1.5? |
| 01:29.31 | eggman | ill be back running Elive .4 then ill need some help installing SATA |
| 01:29.55 | dererk | Elive_user66 check if you have the line not commented of Idefix source |
| 01:30.12 | Elive_user66 | ok dererk thx |
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| 01:30.53 | Elive_user66 | and where is mount a cdrom when is insert in the cdrom drive? |
| 01:31.08 | Elive_user66 | there is no automount |
| 01:31.10 | Elive_user79 | after i install elive do i need to edit repos or just do an apt-get update???? |
| 01:31.11 | Elive_user66 | ? |
| 01:31.27 | Elive_user66 | i wonder |
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| 01:32.02 | Elive_user79 | what no automount?? |
| 01:32.03 | dererk | Elive_user79 I think you just need to update them |
| 01:32.28 | dererk | Elive_user79 automont works only on installed elive |
| 01:32.40 | Elive_user79 | thanks derek |
| 01:32.41 | dererk | automount* |
| 01:33.00 | Elive_user79 | don't worry about speling pleeze |
| 01:33.03 | Elive_user79 | lol |
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| 01:33.38 | Elive_user | Is there an easy way to upgrade to FF 1.5? |
| 01:34.09 | Elive_user79 | i believe there is a way |
| 01:34.42 | Elive_user66 | what is the default test editor for modified apt-sources list please |
| 01:34.47 | dererk | Yes, download the .bin file from Mozilla and then chmod 755 it |
| 01:34.51 | dererk | That's all |
| 01:35.15 | Elive_user | WHen I go to mozilla.org all I see is the source |
| 01:35.17 | dererk | Elive_user66 you may use scite (under sude) |
| 01:35.20 | dererk | sudo* |
| 01:35.48 | dererk | There's available a binary too Elive_user |
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| 01:37.31 | Elive_user66 | yop where is apt/sourceslist? |
| 01:38.07 | saad3000 | how do I tar alot of .tar at once? |
| 01:38.14 | dererk | the full command will be this Elive_user66: |
| 01:38.26 | dererk | " sudo scite /etc/apt/sources.list " |
| 01:38.53 | Elive_user66 | ho sudo work on elive th |
| 01:39.27 | saad3000 | roxville: welcome back ;> |
| 01:39.29 | eggman_ | ok so im on elive now |
| 01:39.35 | Elive_user79 | sudo is cool |
| 01:39.42 | dererk | Elive_user66 ? |
| 01:39.47 | eggman_ | and i need to install sata support before i HD install |
| 01:39.50 | Elive_user66 | shit no serial sata package |
| 01:39.56 | roxville | thanx :) |
| 01:40.11 | dererk | roxville do you know the name of the sata package? |
| 01:40.14 | eggman_ | which kernal module do i use? |
| 01:40.23 | roxville | dererk, nope |
| 01:40.33 | dererk | eggman_ you have to use a package provided on Elive. |
| 01:40.37 | saad3000 | how do I tar alot of .tar at once? |
| 01:40.39 | eggman_ | im in E16 and i went Config > Kernal Modules |
| 01:40.44 | dererk | before installing Elive. |
| 01:40.50 | roxville | hey eggman_ ... been a while |
| 01:40.56 | eggman_ | hey |
| 01:41.00 | roxville | how's buffalo? |
| 01:41.00 | eggman_ | it has |
| 01:41.05 | eggman_ | Chilly still |
| 01:41.10 | roxville | ok |
| 01:41.24 | eggman_ | but it was warm for about a week 2 weeks ago |
| 01:41.42 | roxville | lol... i know the feeling... |
| 01:41.53 | roxville | it's a slap in the face when it gets cold again |
| 01:41.53 | KrazyPenguin | ya, january was awesome eggam , eh! |
| 01:41.55 | eggman_ | then i goto kernals/drives/sata then its a list and i dont know which one to pick |
| 01:42.01 | eggman_ | yea |
| 01:42.08 | Elive_user66 | dererk, that's my source list is it allright please http://pastebin.com/566087 |
| 01:42.10 | dererk | saad3000 tar cf tarring_file.tar file1 file2 file3 (or path/files*.whatever) |
| 01:42.29 | saad3000 | http://geocities.com/bashguy/2006-02-22-033030.png nice? |
| 01:42.37 | KrazyPenguin | eggman you are real close to me |
| 01:42.46 | eggman_ | Canada? |
| 01:42.52 | KrazyPenguin | Niagara Falls, ontario here eh!!!! |
| 01:42.59 | saad3000 | ok thanx |
| 01:43.03 | eggman_ | Ah i see |
| 01:43.12 | dererk | Elive_user66 oh, that's strange.. |
| 01:43.31 | dererk | Elive_user66 just to check, do this: apt-get update && apt-cache search sata |
| 01:43.57 | eggman_ | Thana told me this was how I install SATA support |
| 01:44.48 | KrazyPenguin | I was wondering if there were elive forums cuz I couldn't find any |
| 01:45.00 | Elive_user | I must be blind but I am still unable to find the Firefox installer. I click on Linux and it tries to make a download the source. |
| 01:45.19 | Drex99 | Hi kids |
| 01:45.36 | Drex99 | running Elive Off cd here. |
| 01:45.41 | Elive_user66 | yop derek http://pastebin.com/566093 |
| 01:45.49 | Elive_user66 | nothings |
| 01:45.56 | Elive_user66 | what hell |
| 01:46.22 | Drex99 | looks like its in800 x 500 youck. how can I change that? |
| 01:46.57 | Elive_user66 | is someone don an fresh install on sata hard disk? |
| 01:47.02 | Drex99 | 800 x 600 I mean. |
| 01:47.17 | dererk | eggman_ for install Elive on sata, you need to enter on e16, and select: Config -> kernel modules... and search on "sata" and load your module, then, you can install and use Elive on sata (tested) ;) |
| 01:47.26 | dererk | thana's words... |
| 01:47.38 | Elive_user66 | ok cool am on e17 |
| 01:47.45 | dererk | Elive_user66 read that too.. |
| 01:47.48 | Elive_user66 | thats the problem |
| 01:47.52 | roxville | Elive_user66 open the controlpanel (the folder with tolls) |
| 01:47.52 | Elive_user66 | thx |
| 01:48.01 | roxville | check under the "keys" |
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| 01:48.07 | eggman_ | ok but how do i know what module to use ;) |
| 01:48.11 | roxville | there's a monitor settings icon there |
| 01:48.30 | roxville | tolls = tools |
| 01:48.44 | *** part/#elive pycs (n=loell200@203.84.186.98) |
| 01:48.58 | eggman_ | http://www3.filehost.to/files/2006-02-22_01/023650_Untitled.jpg |
| 01:49.03 | eggman_ | thats what i see |
| 01:49.21 | eggman_ | but what module do i use? |
| 01:49.30 | eggman_ | i have a Nforce 4 MB if that helps |
| 01:50.19 | roxville | eggman_, yer talking video card now? |
| 01:50.23 | eggman_ | no |
| 01:50.39 | eggman_ | the nforce4 is the chipset my Motherboard uses |
| 01:50.40 | roxville | try the new one... if it doesn't work... try the old one... |
| 01:50.53 | roxville | eggman_, ok, sorry then :) |
| 01:51.11 | eggman_ | my video card is a 6800GS |
| 01:51.23 | eggman_ | so i used the nw driver for that :D |
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| 01:52.44 | roxville | yes... sounds like a good choice :) |
| 01:52.59 | Elive_user21 | ok so for install on sata drive it was ? |
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| 01:54.08 | Drex99 | Gunna restart, Thanks for the tips |
| 01:54.24 | roxville | for install Elive on sata, you need to enter on e16, and select: Config -> kernel modules... and search on "sata" and load your module, then, you can install and use Elive on |
| 01:55.01 | dererk | apt screw roxville |
| 01:55.21 | roxville | apt, cook a cocnut for dererk |
| 01:55.39 | roxville | hmmm |
| 01:56.10 | roxville | apt, cook coconut for dererk |
| 01:56.17 | dererk | apt stupid bot |
| 01:56.18 | apt | no, stupid dererk |
| 01:56.18 | pizux | ok but witch module is it there are severals ! |
| 01:56.25 | dererk | Oh... |
| 01:56.32 | dererk | apt is getting smarter |
| 01:56.35 | saad3000 | who has his terminal transparent? |
| 01:56.40 | roxville | :) |
| 01:57.20 | saad3000 | it always shows me the blur e17 logo |
| 01:57.41 | eggman_ | pizux, what MB do you have? |
| 01:57.50 | pizux | mb? |
| 01:58.37 | pizux | euh sorry am a frenchy newb |
| 01:58.40 | eggman_ | motherboard |
| 01:59.02 | pizux | via |
| 01:59.30 | roxville | saad3000, you can change that if you want... in elpanel behind the "screen" and e17 |
| 01:59.56 | pizux | ok it ask me about a argument for the command line |
| 02:00.03 | pizux | what can i put? |
| 02:00.08 | eggman_ | im guessing you should use the sata_via module |
| 02:00.17 | pizux | ok |
| 02:00.22 | eggman_ | idk im trying to figure out what to use for mine :/ |
| 02:01.03 | eggman_ | just leave that blank for now |
| 02:01.47 | pizux | ok it works |
| 02:02.36 | roxville | GPLGeek, much better! that underscore makes you look fat :) |
| 02:02.52 | roxville | or wider... anyway |
| 02:03.16 | saad3000 | master boot |
| 02:03.20 | GPLGeek | roxville, maybe I needed one on both sides _GPLGeek_ |
| 02:03.35 | roxville | ooohhh... not sure... |
| 02:03.48 | pizux | ok am i in gparted got already a ext a extended and a swap partition |
| 02:04.02 | saad3000 | ;> |
| 02:04.02 | saad3000 | roxville: thanx you saved my life ;> |
| 02:04.02 | saad3000 | roxville: You still wana cut down the old naked tree ;> |
| 02:04.02 | saad3000 | roxville: where exactly behind the screen and e17? |
| 02:04.03 | saad3000 | look n feel? |
| 02:04.15 | roxville | well it DOES even out the rough edges... |
| 02:04.15 | pizux | whats next? |
| 02:04.34 | roxville | hehe |
| 02:04.39 | GPLGeek | I want accelerated linux graphics in elive but dont want to take my ati out and replace it with my nvidia because I'd lose speed in my installed os.... |
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| 02:05.05 | roxville | saad3000, backgrounds selector |
| 02:05.16 | GPLGeek | ati's rock other than the fact of drivers lacking. |
| 02:05.50 | roxville | pizux, make sure you choose reiserfs for root partition |
| 02:06.13 | pizux | a shit too late |
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| 02:06.51 | roxville | pizux, sorry man, i can't stress that enough... you be better off going back |
| 02:07.10 | GPLGeek | i love reiserfs |
| 02:07.30 | saad3000 | thanx it worked! |
| 02:07.30 | saad3000 | roxville: by bg is animated |
| 02:07.30 | saad3000 | it doesn't animate |
| 02:07.34 | eggman_ | is ext3 really that bad? |
| 02:07.47 | pizux | why reiserfs better ?* |
| 02:07.59 | roxville | saad3000, the root window doesn't anumate |
| 02:08.08 | saad3000 | roxville: i c thanx |
| 02:08.27 | roxville | pizux, thana uses it... elive is pretty much optimized for it |
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| 02:08.48 | roxville | may change for the next version... but by then... you'll love it! |
| 02:08.58 | eggman_ | also is not haveing a /home seperate partion a problem? |
| 02:09.21 | pizux | ok changithat |
| 02:09.27 | roxville | eggman_, no, not a prob... and make darn sure you make an extended partition |
| 02:09.40 | roxville | oh... |
| 02:09.47 | eggman_ | extended partition? |
| 02:09.57 | eggman_ | so confused X( |
| 02:10.00 | saad3000 | roxville: if I want to change the font color of the terminal? |
| 02:10.10 | roxville | saad3000, go fish... |
| 02:10.20 | roxville | means i have no idea :) |
| 02:10.31 | saad3000 | oh lol |
| 02:10.40 | saad3000 | its k |
| 02:10.59 | roxville | eggman_, in gparted, make an extended partition and put ALL other partitions EXCEPT root and swap in there |
| 02:11.31 | roxville | it's not that hard... even i could do it :) |
| 02:11.45 | roxville | thana "dummy tests" on me |
| 02:12.14 | roxville | "well if roxville could do it..." |
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| 02:13.12 | saad3000 | lol |
| 02:13.34 | roxville | hello Elive_user49 :) |
| 02:13.40 | roxville | welcome to #elive |
| 02:13.42 | pizux | got a bug |
| 02:13.51 | roxville | kill it |
| 02:13.51 | saad3000 | k guys later gtg sleep |
| 02:13.55 | saad3000 | roxville: thanx again man. |
| 02:14.00 | roxville | night saad3000 :) |
| 02:14.03 | roxville | np |
| 02:14.04 | saad3000 | nighty allz |
| 02:14.11 | Elive_user49 | hey all |
| 02:14.23 | Elive_user49 | iv'e got a good question |
| 02:14.31 | roxville | shoot |
| 02:14.48 | roxville | pizux, what's the bug |
| 02:15.34 | pizux | what is extra partition? |
| 02:15.39 | Elive_user49 | in the new elive 0.4 beta not live edition ive tried 6 different computers and none seem to see any of the HD curious as are you all with me |
| 02:16.05 | pizux | the bug is it ask me severals times to choose a /home partition |
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| 02:16.15 | eggmn_ | ewell |
| 02:16.23 | GPLGeek | elive_user49 are they sata drives? you might have to apt-get install the sata driver |
| 02:16.41 | Elive_user49 | as in go to install GPARTed no problem see's HD's but afterwars scri[t does continue and fails to see ATA drivers |
| 02:16.51 | Elive_user49 | drives |
| 02:16.51 | pizux | do u need french translator for elive? |
| 02:17.01 | eggmn_ | my install hung :/ |
| 02:17.29 | roxville | pizux, no... but thank you for offering your services :) |
| 02:17.43 | pizux | iis it normal there is no ask for swap patition? |
| 02:17.50 | Elive_user49 | so the question to this is simpley do i need to enable them in e16/ kernel-modules then a recompile? |
| 02:18.32 | eggmn_ | is there an elive wiki? |
| 02:19.28 | roxville | eggmn_, yes... but it's not very... big yet... |
| 02:19.31 | pizux | a french wiki;) |
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| 02:19.53 | eggmn_ | well lets make it bigger than! |
| 02:19.58 | eggmn_ | link me! |
| 02:20.02 | Elive_user49 | anyone help would be great to solve this. would make world of difference in passing to others |
| 02:20.10 | roxville | pizux, if you have a swap already... it will automatically choose that, and not ask |
| 02:20.18 | pizux | great |
| 02:20.33 | pizux | and adding user after that it will ask me? |
| 02:20.44 | roxville | Elive_user49, i think we are thinking about this... i know i am... |
| 02:20.50 | Elive_user49 | ok ill brb so stew on that one gonna login to e16 try compile |
| 02:20.54 | Elive_user49 | lol thanks all |
| 02:20.55 | roxville | but no light bulbs yet... |
| 02:21.13 | roxville | ok |
| 02:21.34 | eggmn_ | wiki link anyone? |
| 02:21.37 | pizux | euh just for know what is the aim of this distrib = provide a desktop for all type of user (including newbie ) |
| 02:21.53 | roxville | pizux, it will ask standard questions... show size, name of barber..etc... |
| 02:22.35 | pizux | euh sorry my english is a bit bad ... |
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| 02:24.30 | roxville | pizux, after those questions (user etc) you should be almost done :) |
| 02:24.51 | Drex99 | woo woo 1024x768. woo woo |
| 02:25.02 | Drex99 | Much beddah |
| 02:25.39 | roxville | pizux, enlightenment is not a very good desktop for the newbie... but Thana is working HARD on making it a lot easier... and so far, he's doing a great job |
| 02:25.55 | pizux | i saw that |
| 02:26.05 | roxville | but elive is still only at 0.4 beta, and a distro in development |
| 02:26.07 | Drex99 | I love it so far |
| 02:26.38 | roxville | so pizux ... just hang in there :) |
| 02:26.48 | pizux | maybe it's going to be hard for me but i'll try |
| 02:27.19 | pizux | euh just a question about what's the easiest = e16 or e17 ? |
| 02:27.30 | Drex99 | I like Knoppix. But this is sweeter I think. |
| 02:27.41 | pizux | because e17 look much nice |
| 02:27.55 | pizux | sweeter? |
| 02:28.01 | pizux | what do u mean |
| 02:28.20 | pizux | i'll try zenwalk before elive tonight |
| 02:28.39 | Drex99 | what do you mean , what do I mean? |
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| 02:29.14 | pizux | was great but a very litlle piece of package and my child need educational games :) |
| 02:30.14 | roxville | pizux, that doesn't matter... e16 is more stable, but e17 is getting really good |
| 02:30.51 | pizux | ok thx |
| 02:31.01 | roxville | one thing you will have to learn, is how to make eapps... the apps you install your self... you have to make the icons for them |
| 02:31.15 | roxville | not very hard at all, but a little confusing at first] |
| 02:31.28 | roxville | since no other desktop does that |
| 02:32.26 | roxville | an eapp is a sort of archive that stores the executable AND the icon inside it |
| 02:33.25 | roxville | apps to make eapps are in elpanel... then you also have to put your eapp in the menu or ibar your self |
| 02:35.57 | roxville | oops... did i scare him off? |
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| 02:42.10 | Drex99 | Ya made him all parinoid or his screensaver came on and he cant figure out how to get it off. |
| 02:42.37 | pizux | ok my install failed |
| 02:42.48 | pizux | had a kernel panic |
| 02:44.05 | roxville | no fun |
| 02:44.24 | Drex99 | don't ya just hate when that happens? |
| 02:44.40 | Drex99 | Is it an AMD perhaps? |
| 02:44.43 | pizux | ata2 nodevice found |
| 02:45.08 | pizux | yes amd sempron 3000 |
| 02:45.21 | Drex99 | bluck. they suck ass |
| 02:45.30 | pizux | bought a the supermaket |
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| 02:45.49 | Drex99 | might as well of bought a Yogo |
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| 02:45.58 | Drex99 | er Yugo |
| 02:46.17 | pizux | i bought it in the middle of the concomber place |
| 02:46.26 | Drex99 | Go get and Intel and live a little |
| 02:46.35 | pizux | was windows on it |
| 02:47.06 | roxville | yes, and everyone makes DAMN sure windows works on their computers |
| 02:47.09 | pizux | ok could u ask my boss for more money please |
| 02:47.10 | Drex99 | hope ya never paid more than 100 bux fer it. |
| 02:47.34 | pizux | so i cant do nothing with amd? |
| 02:47.40 | roxville | pizux, i can not help you with this, i'm sorry... not my line of expertise |
| 02:47.41 | Drex99 | who's yer Boss. I wi;; ask. |
| 02:47.59 | roxville | when i think about it, i don't have a line of expertise at all... |
| 02:48.05 | Drex99 | LOL |
| 02:48.11 | Drex99 | you poor basterdz |
| 02:48.22 | roxville | :) |
| 02:48.33 | roxville | i'm pretty good at being me... |
| 02:48.39 | Drex99 | But yer wife luvs ya... Right? |
| 02:48.59 | roxville | yeah... i think so |
| 02:49.11 | Drex99 | Lol. maybe we can trade |
| 02:49.20 | dererk | Oh, I mean... |
| 02:49.21 | roxville | lol dererk |
| 02:49.32 | roxville | hmmm... |
| 02:49.55 | roxville | a swap disk and a swap wife... |
| 02:50.00 | Drex99 | Lol. |
| 02:50.09 | pizux | ok so i can forget elive on my amd :(((( |
| 02:50.20 | Drex99 | I love that show Wife Swap. |
| 02:50.31 | roxville | pizux, NOT NECESSARILY... |
| 02:50.38 | Drex99 | try Knoppix |
| 02:50.43 | roxville | sorry for caps |
| 02:50.51 | Drex99 | Knoppix is forgiving. |
| 02:51.06 | roxville | you may still be able to make it work fine... just that I can not help you with it |
| 02:51.15 | pizux | knoppix bof i prefer mepis but anyway dont like kde |
| 02:51.26 | Drex99 | and it werkz on anything, Even Those pesky AMD's |
| 02:51.27 | roxville | if you don't get an answer right now, don't give up! |
| 02:51.53 | Drex99 | Never give up |
| 02:51.58 | pizux | perhaps on the forum? |
| 02:52.14 | Drex99 | ,get and old ide drive and toos it in there. Unhook the sata |
| 02:52.50 | roxville | pizux, maybe... thana is the only developer, we are getting more and more ppl that wanna help out... |
| 02:52.53 | Drex99 | toos=toss |
| 02:52.55 | roxville | we'll get there |
| 02:53.36 | pizux | ok am sure it will be cool in the next elive |
| 02:53.49 | pizux | shame |
| 02:54.25 | roxville | no ppl have gotten it to work on AMD in this elive version |
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| 02:54.40 | eggman | wow that install is a bitch |
| 02:54.45 | eggman | and it hung too :( |
| 02:54.56 | roxville | yeah... it's thana's first installer |
| 02:55.05 | roxville | it hung? |
| 02:55.08 | eggman | yea |
| 02:55.28 | pizux | do u think i try one more time? |
| 02:55.33 | roxville | maybe try the fast install option... or did you make it through? |
| 02:55.33 | Elive_user75 | the installer seems to take a very long time to complete |
| 02:55.39 | Elive_user75 | it probably hasnt hung |
| 02:55.52 | Elive_user75 | mine has been installing for about 4 hours. |
| 02:56.04 | eggman | no it just hung, no Cd acess, no HD acess and 100% CPU use |
| 02:56.16 | roxville | pizux, try again :) |
| 02:56.19 | pizux | it tooks 15 minutes for me |
| 02:56.24 | Elive_user75 | iv enoticed it locks the cd in any case. |
| 02:56.29 | Elive_user75 | i see. |
| 02:56.40 | eggman | i think its the SATA thing |
| 02:56.42 | roxville | pizux, my first elive install was 0.3... took me 5 try's to get it right |
| 02:56.51 | roxville | and i'm still here :) |
| 02:56.53 | eggman | might have picked the wrong one |
| 02:57.09 | roxville | very possible |
| 02:57.31 | pizux | ok i seeing that thereis no usb kernel module install have to do this before installing? |
| 02:57.31 | eggman | ill try to figure out which one is right for nForce 4 SATA |
| 02:58.05 | Drex99 | there is sata2 now. Not just sata. It may not like Sata2 drives. |
| 02:58.29 | pizux | whare can i find sata 2 drivers? |
| 02:58.38 | Drex99 | The bios can be forced on newer boards to detect as sata1 or 2 |
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| 02:59.08 | Drex99 | No Idea |
| 02:59.14 | eggman | its SATA 1 i think |
| 02:59.54 | pizux | maybe there is an otion to add |
| 02:59.58 | Drex99 | hafta get Model # off drive and look at wesite fer spec's |
| 03:00.43 | pizux | do u think i can install severals kernel modules for the sata? |
| 03:00.59 | Drex99 | er website, either will work |
| 03:01.42 | Drex99 | MMmm. Smoked Oysters. Yummm. |
| 03:02.08 | roxville | lol Drex99 |
| 03:04.04 | eggman | Interface standard - Serial ATA 1.5Gb/s (Serial) ATA Ultra 100 (Parallel) |
| 03:04.10 | eggman | I assume that SATA 1 ? |
| 03:04.38 | Drex99 | seems to be yes |
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| 03:05.05 | pizux | ok i think i installed with fast system am trying with the slow |
| 03:05.30 | pizux | but it goingbe long |
| 03:05.55 | eggman | its an nForce 4 MB so i should use the sata_nv module ? |
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| 03:06.26 | Drex99 | yeah , try it |
| 03:07.11 | eggman | well im on windows now |
| 03:07.18 | pizux | beurk |
| 03:07.26 | roxville | WHAT!!?? |
| 03:07.29 | eggman | cause the hung elive install killed GRUB and i couldnt boot |
| 03:07.33 | roxville | get out!!! |
| 03:07.36 | roxville | :) |
| 03:07.45 | roxville | oops... ok then... |
| 03:07.47 | eggman | so i had to slap a quick linux install on to fix grub |
| 03:07.52 | pizux | its why i forgave windows ! |
| 03:08.05 | pizux | mepis |
| 03:08.14 | pizux | easyest |
| 03:08.19 | Drex99 | I need windows to play all my games. |
| 03:08.23 | eggman | Same |
| 03:08.29 | pizux | do u try cedega? |
| 03:08.34 | Drex99 | I think XP Pro is greaty. |
| 03:08.38 | eggman | nope |
| 03:08.39 | Drex99 | drop the y |
| 03:08.56 | eggman | XP Pro is pretty good |
| 03:09.08 | eggman | but its better when you dont pay for it ;) |
| 03:09.35 | Drex99 | I never have. lol |
| 03:09.57 | pizux | one of my friend cautgh a virus 2 weeks ago on windows and he coud'lnt acced to it important partition |
| 03:09.58 | Drex99 | Thats why we have newsgroups and torrent sites. |
| 03:10.07 | pizux | ubuntu save is life |
| 03:10.12 | pizux | so windows |
| 03:10.17 | pizux | shit on it |
| 03:10.34 | Drex99 | linux can read the partition... |
| 03:10.44 | pizux | yep |
| 03:10.58 | eggman | Well i have ZoneLabs Interbew Security Suite protecting me... |
| 03:11.16 | Drex99 | yeah, |
| 03:11.35 | pizux | it stay 10 days on live cd and was helped by xchat ubuntu community for all those problems |
| 03:11.45 | pizux | now he want to install linux :) |
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| 03:12.37 | pizux | so windows we can live without it |
| 03:12.41 | eggman | yea |
| 03:12.45 | eggman | unless you game |
| 03:12.50 | eggman | or use Quicken |
| 03:12.50 | pizux | for games personnaly got a gp2x |
| 03:13.03 | pizux | and a dreamcast |
| 03:13.04 | GPLGeek | I game in linux |
| 03:13.10 | pizux | dont need windows |
| 03:13.18 | GPLGeek | battlefield2, doom3, steam games, etc |
| 03:13.25 | GPLGeek | and quicken works with crossover office or wine |
| 03:13.30 | pizux | enemy territory |
| 03:13.50 | eggman | BF2 is such a RAM hog |
| 03:13.50 | pizux | true combat elite better than couter strike and free! |
| 03:13.54 | eggman | its not even funny |
| 03:13.55 | GPLGeek | the best is to keep a vmware virtual windowsxp just in case |
| 03:14.02 | Drex99 | Boot cd for Dreamcast is Linux |
| 03:14.14 | eggman | it takes forever to load one simple map! |
| 03:14.21 | pizux | and do u heard about gp2x? |
| 03:14.38 | GPLGeek | bf2 is not a ram hog, it just has high load times |
| 03:15.04 | eggman | yes it is i have a screen shot to prove |
| 03:15.04 | GPLGeek | they verify all your client data (to ensure no cheats) before you join any map |
| 03:15.18 | GPLGeek | before or after the patch? |
| 03:15.23 | GPLGeek | how much is "hog" to you |
| 03:15.36 | eggman | im runing 1.2 |
| 03:15.49 | eggman | well i only have 512 ram |
| 03:16.02 | GPLGeek | lol |
| 03:16.12 | GPLGeek | any modern game pc should have 1gb or more |
| 03:16.19 | eggman | i know |
| 03:16.25 | eggman | but everyting else runs fine |
| 03:16.58 | GPLGeek | ram is cheep these days |
| 03:17.01 | GPLGeek | good ram even |
| 03:17.09 | eggman | indeed |
| 03:17.26 | roxville | and i grew up on the highway... we were so ppor,, that for breakfast, we had to lick the asphalt every morning |
| 03:17.51 | roxville | ppor = poor |
| 03:18.09 | GPLGeek | get a gigabyte motherboard and 4 sticks of 512 ram and a and64 3700+ and it's a paycheck for a poor person. |
| 03:18.12 | roxville | it's from a monty python sketch |
| 03:19.05 | eggman | http://www3.filehost.to/files/2006-02-22_01/040638_3.png |
| 03:20.12 | pizux | is there some clocks on panel? |
| 03:21.17 | eggman | thats after stoping BF2 |
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| 03:28.55 | Drex99 | my sound loks like it works, but nothing comes out dah speekahs. |
| 03:29.29 | pycs | Drex99, in elpanel configure the volume :) |
| 03:34.28 | Drex99 | Yeah I tried that , They all looked Muted. |
| 03:35.58 | pycs | does the sound works now :) |
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| 03:36.53 | Drex99 | Nope. But The meter bounces |
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| 03:40.34 | pizux | yop got a clue |
| 03:40.46 | pizux | my install failed again |
| 03:41.15 | pizux | but i notice that elive cd under gparted name my hard disk sde |
| 03:41.25 | pizux | in ubuntu it name sda |
| 03:41.32 | pizux | is it a clue ? |
| 03:41.33 | roxville | scsi |
| 03:41.47 | roxville | or sata... not sure |
| 03:41.55 | roxville | and/or |
| 03:42.24 | pizux | am goign to try ubuntulive cd for trying to found the arg ciommand for the kernel modules do u know where is it in the system? |
| 03:42.24 | roxville | yes, it is definitely a clua as to why your install fails |
| 03:43.27 | pizux | a lsmod will show the name module but the otions of the modules ? |
| 03:44.01 | pizux | any idea? |
| 03:45.16 | roxville | i don't know |
| 03:45.22 | Elive_user49 | shame |
| 03:45.30 | roxville | lol |
| 03:46.00 | roxville | good with a backup, eh? :) |
| 03:46.22 | Elive_user49 | right how to know that |
| 03:46.36 | Elive_user49 | i reboot under ubuntu |
| 03:46.58 | Elive_user49 | am going to bed in fact |
| 03:47.04 | roxville | try again tomorrow... hopefully someone that knows will be present |
| 03:47.16 | Elive_user49 | could u ask someone for my problem please |
| 03:47.27 | roxville | this IS the friendliest chat channel |
| 03:47.29 | Elive_user49 | ok see u and thx |
| 03:47.39 | roxville | i will ask |
| 03:47.50 | roxville | if i see someone that may know :) |
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| 03:51.16 | Thanatermesis | any person has a problem launching any thing on elpanel ? |
| 03:53.25 | Drex99 | I cant get sound working Than |
| 03:53.50 | Thanatermesis | Drex99 after to reconfigure the audio via elpanel ? |
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| 03:54.36 | Drex99 | I have XMHS running and streaming , All is unmuted in the mixer, the vu meter bounces. the amp is on. Its a no go |
| 03:55.47 | Drex99 | reconfigure in What way? |
| 03:55.59 | roxville | alsaconf |
| 03:56.02 | Thanatermesis | elpanel... but i don't why it don't launch |
| 03:56.09 | Thanatermesis | yes, use alsaconf from a terminal in root |
| 04:00.10 | Drex99 | i will try that |
| 04:00.17 | Drex99 | hang on |
| 04:02.19 | Thanatermesis | audio reconfiguration on elpanel works again after a upgrade |
| 04:09.29 | roxville | i have slept 3 hours/night for the past week.. i gotta get in bed... good night |
| 04:10.41 | Drex99 | Ok i ran alsaconf and it did it's thing but still no sound. |
| 04:11.41 | Drex99 | I even tried the mic and line jacks to see if it would work. But nope |
| 04:12.02 | Drex99 | Im on the Lice cd btw... |
| 04:12.05 | Drex99 | live |
| 04:12.31 | Drex99 | and have had way too mant Coca colas today |
| 04:17.52 | Thanatermesis | Drex99 the liveCD kernel not is very good... try it for the installed system, i think to your audio card works then |
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| 04:22.21 | Drex99 | Ok. Thanks Thana |
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| 04:23.45 | Elive_user | nick lefty_crupps |
| 04:24.00 | Muta | qiubole |
| 04:24.03 | Elive_user | (how do i change my name?) |
| 04:24.41 | Muta | <Elive_user> with.. /nick new |
| 04:24.59 | lefty_crupps | thank ya Muta |
| 04:25.23 | Muta | ;) |
| 04:26.28 | lefty_crupps | hey crew |
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| 04:27.29 | lefty_crupps | does anyone know about the usb-drive automount ? |
| 04:28.27 | Thanatermesis | lefty_crupps yes, its available when you install Elive on the hard disk ;) |
| 04:28.29 | lefty_crupps | i find evidence file manager unstable and would like the usb-flash drive to auto-open in xfe |
| 04:28.37 | lefty_crupps | i have it! woot! |
| 04:28.44 | lefty_crupps | (on the hard disk) |
| 04:28.55 | Thanatermesis | yes, evidence is unstable |
| 04:29.02 | lefty_crupps | :) |
| 04:29.06 | Thanatermesis | but you have the option of xfe |
| 04:29.13 | lefty_crupps | which is ok, i'd just like to default to the other |
| 04:29.36 | lefty_crupps | evidence is uninstalled but the option still pops up |
| 04:30.06 | lefty_crupps | (Thanatermesis, not to kiss a**, but this thing is amaving) |
| 04:30.17 | lefty_crupps | ((amazing)) |
| 04:31.38 | Thanatermesis | you need to edit your $HOME/.ivman/defaults then |
| 04:31.51 | lefty_crupps | ooh ok lemme open that |
| 04:34.05 | lefty_crupps | wow that was easy!! |
| 04:34.23 | lefty_crupps | thanks Thanatermesis |
| 04:35.02 | Thanatermesis | yes.. very easy :) |
| 04:35.16 | Thanatermesis | the problem is to the user know's about this... |
| 04:35.21 | Thanatermesis | maybe a future feature for elpanel ;) |
| 04:35.35 | lefty_crupps | good idea! |
| 04:36.09 | lefty_crupps | i would like a network config panel or something too... are they tough? |
| 04:36.15 | lefty_crupps | i've never looked into them |
| 04:36.31 | Thanatermesis | elpanel has a network configurer |
| 04:36.44 | lefty_crupps | i know but it needs root :/ |
| 04:36.55 | lefty_crupps | and its 4 steps |
| 04:37.46 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... |
| 04:37.58 | Thanatermesis | i don't know a more easy way to configure the network than the used on elpanel |
| 04:38.01 | lefty_crupps | although just now it asked to save the password |
| 04:38.10 | Thanatermesis | also.. i don't think to you can configure the network without enter in root |
| 04:38.14 | lefty_crupps | so that might make it quiker to launch from the menu |
| 04:38.22 | lefty_crupps | dunno. |
| 04:39.12 | lefty_crupps | i put a menu entry in, its a bit handy for me |
| 04:39.38 | Thanatermesis | launch: network-admin-tutorial |
| 04:39.48 | lefty_crupps | ooh ok! |
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| 04:40.22 | lefty_crupps | hey does e16 take desktop modules like e17 does? |
| 04:41.07 | lefty_crupps | network-admin-tutorial does not work |
| 04:41.19 | lefty_crupps | 0.4_pre |
| 04:41.20 | lefty_crupps | ? |
| 04:42.40 | Thanatermesis | no... |
| 04:42.44 | Thanatermesis | apt elive-pre lefty_crupps |
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| 04:42.57 | Thanatermesis | apt elive-pre |
| 04:43.00 | lefty_crupps | ok |
| 04:43.02 | Thanatermesis | apt elive-PRE lefty_crupps |
| 04:43.09 | lefty_crupps | ok |
| 04:43.10 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 04:43.28 | Thanatermesis | lefty_crupps read the topic |
| 04:43.45 | lefty_crupps | ?? |
| 04:43.57 | lefty_crupps | you want that i apt-get install elive-PRE |
| 04:43.59 | lefty_crupps | ?? |
| 04:44.04 | Thanatermesis | no, e16 don't has the same modules than e17... you can install "epplets", but not is really the same thing, is a little more ugly |
| 04:44.18 | Thanatermesis | no... "apt" is a bot |
| 04:44.20 | Thanatermesis | apt hello |
| 04:44.20 | apt | privet |
| 04:44.21 | lefty_crupps | aah, cool. |
| 04:44.37 | Thanatermesis | im calling he but he don't response... |
| 04:44.40 | lefty_crupps | do that here? or shell? |
| 04:44.41 | Thanatermesis | apt pre |
| 04:44.47 | lefty_crupps | lol |
| 04:44.53 | Thanatermesis | apt bad bot |
| 04:44.54 | apt | ACTION whimpers |
| 04:44.59 | Thanatermesis | apt bad bot ! |
| 04:44.59 | apt | ACTION whimpers |
| 04:45.03 | Thanatermesis | bah |
| 04:45.14 | Thanatermesis | apt wake apt |
| 04:45.23 | lefty_crupps | apt what the heck? |
| 04:45.24 | Thanatermesis | apt good morning !!! |
| 04:45.31 | Thanatermesis | strange.. |
| 04:45.31 | lefty_crupps | apt good morning |
| 04:45.32 | apt | i heard good morning is a contradiction in terms |
| 04:46.00 | lefty_crupps | oh i see.. |
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| 05:04.39 | Elive_user | hello people I have a question if anyone is available? |
| 05:04.47 | lefty_crupps | :) |
| 05:05.36 | Elive_user | My question is that I have install Elivecd to my hd and I am running it right now I love it.. but everytime I open Eterm or Xterm it doesn't show me english output for the promp it looks more like wingdings. |
| 05:06.12 | Elive_user | and when I type my what shoud be showing up as commands are showing up as symbols of shapes like wingdings |
| 05:07.39 | Elive_user | I was just a little suprised by this and no amount of googleing is helping... keep coming up with no answers |
| 05:08.27 | lefty_crupps | that i don't know |
| 05:08.42 | Elive_user | Yeh that is what I thought too......... heh :( |
| 05:08.50 | Elive_user | I was like that is odd |
| 05:08.53 | lefty_crupps | have you dug around .xmms? |
| 05:09.33 | Elive_user | I would if terminal was working... :( |
| 05:09.42 | lefty_crupps | oooo |
| 05:10.39 | lefty_crupps | nothing that i see in the config file there |
| 05:10.42 | Elive_user | I can put up a screenshot if you would like to see what I am talking about :) |
| 05:10.46 | lefty_crupps | that might make a difference |
| 05:10.52 | lefty_crupps | lol sure |
| 05:11.21 | Elive_user | k give me a sec have to think about how I am going to do that with out the terminal |
| 05:11.23 | lefty_crupps | did you try reinstalling xmms in synaptic? |
| 05:11.28 | lefty_crupps | lol |
| 05:11.30 | Elive_user | xmms is working fine |
| 05:11.47 | lefty_crupps | bwahahaha |
| 05:11.57 | lefty_crupps | i was checking out .xmms and thinking that |
| 05:11.57 | Thanatermesis | <Elive_user> My question is that I have install Elivecd to my hd and I am running it right now I love it.. but everytime I open Eterm or Xterm it doesn't show me english output for the promp it looks more like wingdings. |
| 05:12.01 | Thanatermesis | apt elive-bugs Elive_user |
| 05:12.02 | lefty_crupps | the terminal is the issue |
| 05:12.15 | Elive_user | right |
| 05:12.21 | Thanatermesis | apt tell Elive_user about elive-bugs |
| 05:12.23 | lefty_crupps | :) sorry |
| 05:12.42 | Thanatermesis | now... i think... Elive_user, apt has open a private to you ? |
| 05:12.45 | lefty_crupps | are you in e16 or e17? |
| 05:13.09 | Thanatermesis | lefty_crupps this is a knowed bug... are writed on the webpage |
| 05:13.19 | Thanatermesis | apt elive-bugs |
| 05:13.19 | apt | [elive-bugs] first look on http://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Bugs/ , please make a look before ask |
| 05:13.39 | lefty_crupps | (my e17 terminal is all grey, i can't read it, but they know about it) |
| 05:14.01 | lefty_crupps | (thanks guys! elive_user, is that ehat you mean?) |
| 05:14.09 | Elive_user | yeh.. |
| 05:14.15 | lefty_crupps | :) we both larn |
| 05:14.19 | lefty_crupps | learn |
| 05:14.19 | Elive_user | sorry I missed that earlier |
| 05:14.22 | lefty_crupps | me too |
| 05:14.24 | Elive_user | going to upgrade langconf |
| 05:15.50 | lefty_crupps | Thanatermesis now that i edited what the .ivman/default file does, how do i edit what pops up to begin with? or skip it completely? |
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| 05:16.53 | Thanatermesis | this is more hard lefty_crupps... but you found all on this directory... the messages not is a hard thing, but skip, maybe |
| 05:17.20 | lefty_crupps | hmmm |
| 05:17.34 | lefty_crupps | not that you want to cut out the new FM |
| 05:20.02 | Thanatermesis | messages-utf8 <--- |
| 05:25.04 | lefty_crupps | thanatermesis agan thanks for the help! i love this install and i have four older computers with elive for some friends |
| 05:25.13 | lefty_crupps | it runs amazingly |
| 05:25.20 | Thanatermesis | thanks lefty_crupps :) |
| 05:25.25 | lefty_crupps | see you guys again! |
| 05:25.29 | Thanatermesis | better than 0.3, yes ? |
| 05:25.35 | lefty_crupps | ooh, yes. |
| 05:25.38 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 05:25.42 | lefty_crupps | quite stable!! |
| 05:25.51 | Thanatermesis | hehe, do you have read all the downloads section ? |
| 05:25.54 | lefty_crupps | did you read about the ebuntu distro planned? |
| 05:25.59 | Thanatermesis | is a little "changelog" about the principal changes |
| 05:26.02 | lefty_crupps | yup |
| 05:26.09 | Thanatermesis | yes, i have look about it |
| 05:26.17 | lefty_crupps | i've seen it daily, lookin for updates, etc ;) |
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| 05:26.32 | lefty_crupps | but i'll have to try the "bugs" page too |
| 05:26.48 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 05:26.54 | Thanatermesis | in any case, the PRE version has little bugs |
| 05:27.05 | Thanatermesis | all solved on the final version, except the bugs listed |
| 05:27.15 | Thanatermesis | and ATI not works in "fglrx" drivers in the FINAL version |
| 05:27.26 | lefty_crupps | lol |
| 05:27.28 | lefty_crupps | minor |
| 05:27.31 | Thanatermesis | i think about a future relase of 0.4.2 in a little time |
| 05:27.57 | lefty_crupps | is the source avail for the kernel? for my wireless i had to use the debian kernel, is this a prob? |
| 05:28.05 | lefty_crupps | 0.4.2.0? |
| 05:28.09 | Thanatermesis | sorry, we have lost the sources of the kernel :/ |
| 05:28.14 | lefty_crupps | !? |
| 05:28.17 | Thanatermesis | i have used a kernel based on a debian kernel |
| 05:28.17 | lefty_crupps | oouch |
| 05:28.24 | Thanatermesis | and debian has deleted the sources from the repositories |
| 05:28.32 | lefty_crupps | it works fine so far |
| 05:28.36 | Thanatermesis | from the 0.4.2 version i like to include a 2.6.15 kernel |
| 05:28.40 | lefty_crupps | :) |
| 05:28.54 | Thanatermesis | and with it... add the sources and headers this time on the Elive's repository ;) |
| 05:29.05 | lefty_crupps | yeah that sounds nice |
| 05:29.07 | lefty_crupps | :) |
| 05:29.29 | lefty_crupps | can you compile in the acx100/111 wireless drivers? |
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| 05:29.37 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 05:29.42 | lefty_crupps | or is it not that easy |
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| 05:29.50 | Thanatermesis | root@tanateo[/elive]# apt-cache search acx |
| 05:29.50 | Thanatermesis | acx100-2.6.12 - ACX100/ACX111 wireless network drivers |
| 05:29.54 | Thanatermesis | apt-get install it lefty_crupps ;) |
| 05:29.55 | Elive_user | hey simple question |
| 05:29.58 | lefty_crupps | i have them installed |
| 05:30.05 | lefty_crupps | i was just wondering |
| 05:30.06 | Elive_user | when i do "apt-get update" |
| 05:30.14 | Elive_user | it doesn't update |
| 05:30.16 | lefty_crupps | (never?) |
| 05:30.19 | Pntbllfrk | upgrade |
| 05:30.26 | lefty_crupps | need to be root |
| 05:30.26 | Elive_user | i get an error |
| 05:30.29 | lefty_crupps | type su |
| 05:30.33 | lefty_crupps | then passwd |
| 05:30.36 | Elive_user | did that |
| 05:30.36 | Thanatermesis | lefty_crupps this drivers for the installed system is included on the repositories |
| 05:30.39 | Elive_user | i'm running elivecd |
| 05:31.05 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user what is the error ? can you paste it on www.pastebin.com ? |
| 05:31.05 | lefty_crupps | Thanatermesis, i have them! sorry that you dug! |
| 05:31.25 | Elive_user | it says "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/list/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" |
| 05:31.44 | lefty_crupps | is apt and synaptic both trying to run? |
| 05:31.54 | Elive_user | then it says "E: Unable to lock the list directory" |
| 05:32.00 | lefty_crupps | is apt and synaptic both trying to run? |
| 05:32.01 | Elive_user | i'm trying to run apt-get |
| 05:32.04 | Elive_user | nah |
| 05:32.14 | Elive_user | i didn't try synaptic |
| 05:32.24 | lefty_crupps | shouldnt have to... |
| 05:32.44 | Elive_user | should i reboot and try again? |
| 05:32.45 | Thanatermesis | strange... |
| 05:32.51 | Thanatermesis | yes, better |
| 05:32.52 | lefty_crupps | try exiting root and going back in? |
| 05:32.57 | lefty_crupps | yeah' |
| 05:33.00 | Elive_user | ok |
| 05:33.20 | Elive_user | ahhhhh |
| 05:33.23 | LinuxNIT | heck close the terminal and suse s new one that way you knwo its fresh ;) |
| 05:33.26 | Elive_user | WORKED :D |
| 05:33.27 | lefty_crupps | het thanatermesis, does the 0.4 (not pre) install faster than the pre? |
| 05:33.56 | lefty_crupps | i just let them go overnight |
| 05:34.06 | lefty_crupps | cause the first one (pre) took a while |
| 05:34.40 | Thanatermesis | lefty_crupps i really recomends to install the final version and no the pre... some bugs are fixed, and yes, it has a option for install in only 8 minutes (normal computers) |
| 05:34.52 | lefty_crupps | cool |
| 05:34.59 | lefty_crupps | i have on other machines |
| 05:35.05 | lefty_crupps | just this one is pre :/ |
| 05:35.10 | Thanatermesis | in any case... if you found any problem using this mode, inform me.. i like ot include this mode by default on the next release 0.4.2 |
| 05:35.28 | lefty_crupps | mode? pf #elive on xterm? |
| 05:36.38 | lefty_crupps | thanatermesis, mode? |
| 05:36.39 | Thanatermesis | in the installer... ask about if you want to use the normal mode of installation or faster mode |
| 05:36.46 | lefty_crupps | ok let you know |
| 05:36.57 | lefty_crupps | why would one choose the normal one? |
| 05:37.02 | lefty_crupps | what is the benefit? |
| 05:37.13 | lefty_crupps | over a fast one? |
| 05:37.17 | LinuxNIT | for me the fast didnt work i HAD to use normal |
| 05:37.22 | LinuxNIT | thats the advantage ;) |
| 05:37.28 | lefty_crupps | lol coo |
| 05:37.43 | Thanatermesis | just becuase the normal mode is the normal mode... but is slow... and the fast mode is a "hack of last time", but is not very tested... this is why i don't have include it on "normal mode"... but aparently it don't give any problem to any person |
| 05:38.13 | Thanatermesis | LinuxNIT the fast mode don't works for you ? what happens ? |
| 05:38.52 | LinuxNIT | im racking my brain to remember. i think i had no kernel in /boot but i dont know. would you like me to install it on another partition to find out? |
| 05:39.35 | lefty_crupps | thanatermesis is it possible for new users to click xterm and get immediately in here? |
| 05:39.48 | lefty_crupps | or anyone i suppose |
| 05:40.04 | LinuxNIT | lefty_crupps, when you open xchat it brings them here |
| 05:40.11 | Thanatermesis | LinuxNIT yes... is good... because i like to include this mode for the default in the next release of Elive and delete the normal mode...and if it don't works... then is bad :/ |
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| 05:40.37 | Thanatermesis | lefty_crupps sorry.. i don't understand very the question |
| 05:40.40 | LinuxNIT | ok ill test it soon. is this week end ok? or do you want it sooner? |
| 05:40.59 | Thanatermesis | its ok :) just maintain me informed |
| 05:41.20 | LinuxNIT | ok ill do it this weekend. i have a test on thursday :( |
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| 05:41.53 | lefty_crupps | i mean, when i click xchat |
| 05:42.05 | lefty_crupps | can it auto log in to #elive |
| 05:42.22 | wasynyt | i will write a one line of errors i get from ndiwrapper |
| 05:42.22 | LinuxNIT | lefty_crupps, YES when opening xchat the are brought here by default |
| 05:42.34 | lefty_crupps | hhmmmm? |
| 05:42.35 | LinuxNIT | at least i was :) |
| 05:42.59 | Thanatermesis | thanks LinuxNIT :) |
| 05:43.18 | LinuxNIT | np |
| 05:43.24 | lefty_crupps | ok guys again thanks and goodnight! |
| 05:43.32 | Thanatermesis | lefty_crupps for enter auto in a channel... all is in the config, look in the first option "X-Chat" |
| 05:44.22 | lefty_crupps | ...so it is... |
| 05:44.53 | wasynyt | " ndiswrapper (import:238): uknown symbol: ntoskrnl.exe:ExFreePoolWithTag " i have 9 similiar errors in the listings |
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| 05:45.29 | Thanatermesis | wasynyt i think to you need just the ".inf" file.. but i don't know very about it |
| 05:45.41 | lefty_crupps | are you using a windows nt/xp exe file? |
| 05:45.52 | lefty_crupps | yes inf and sys..? |
| 05:45.55 | lefty_crupps | inf |
| 05:46.05 | wasynyt | dont think so.. i have loaded the .inffile |
| 05:46.07 | lefty_crupps | and the other one with the same name |
| 05:46.22 | lefty_crupps | .sys or .s?? |
| 05:47.01 | wasynyt | doesnt exist in this package.. should i have them both |
| 05:47.36 | lefty_crupps | yeah usually |
| 05:47.44 | wasynyt | ok i will try again |
| 05:47.46 | lefty_crupps | notsure if it is _needed_ |
| 05:48.03 | lefty_crupps | take all the inf and sys files in the windows driver folder |
| 05:49.04 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, i generally down load the driver from the cards manufactures and then go into that folder that way you KNOW that you have the need files |
| 05:49.35 | wasynyt | LinuxNIT, i have donloaded the package from this time bufflo |
| 05:49.38 | lefty_crupps | yes now goodnight |
| 05:49.50 | LinuxNIT | ok then what did you do? |
| 05:50.15 | wasynyt | browsed in to that directory with terminal |
| 05:50.48 | GPLGeek | Thanatermesis, somone else should get some windows games screenshots, I can't get mine to load without accelerated graphics. |
| 05:51.01 | GPLGeek | Thanatermesis, maybe if I get the nvidia machine fixed I would be able to |
| 05:51.07 | LinuxNIT | ok and then did you do ndiswrapper -i foo.inf? |
| 05:51.14 | wasynyt | yes |
| 05:51.18 | wasynyt | as a root |
| 05:51.19 | Thanatermesis | GPLGeek or just the installation step i think to its better GPLGeek |
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| 05:52.02 | LinuxNIT | and what did it do? |
| 05:52.27 | wasynyt | install something.. perhaps no errors given to me |
| 05:52.35 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 05:52.46 | LinuxNIT | next modprobe ndiswrapper and your done |
| 05:53.07 | LinuxNIT | you may have to install ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.12 |
| 05:53.37 | wasynyt | i think i have those already |
| 05:53.40 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 05:54.19 | LinuxNIT | did it modprobe? |
| 05:55.32 | wasynyt | yes.. no errors reported, but when i iwconfig no cpnfiguration for wlan is found, and dmesg ends in errors regarding the driver |
| 05:55.45 | wasynyt | *configuration |
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| 05:56.04 | LinuxNIT | were there more than one inf file in the folder? |
| 05:56.22 | LinuxNIT | hehe looks like my laptop is booted up :) |
| 05:56.22 | wasynyt | yse |
| 05:56.24 | GPLGeek | Thanatermesis, oh ok |
| 05:56.27 | wasynyt | yes |
| 05:56.35 | LinuxNIT | did you install all or just one? |
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| 05:57.35 | wasynyt | if i do ndoswrapper -l i get only one diver listed, so i think only one |
| 05:57.42 | wasynyt | *ndiswrapper |
| 05:58.02 | LinuxNIT- | ok |
| 05:58.08 | LinuxNIT- | try the others too |
| 05:58.21 | LinuxNIT- | modprobe -r ndiswrapper first |
| 05:58.22 | wasynyt | i will try google next |
| 05:58.29 | LinuxNIT- | ok |
| 05:59.41 | wasynyt | same error in dmesg with modprobe -r ndiswrapper |
| 06:00.15 | LinuxNIT | -r removes it. now install the othe inf files then modprobe it back in |
| 06:00.19 | LinuxNIT | see if that works |
| 06:00.27 | wasynyt | k |
| 06:02.23 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, if that dont work there is also a #ndiswrapper :) theyd know a heck of a lot more than me :) |
| 06:02.48 | wasynyt | the same server as #elive |
| 06:02.50 | LinuxNIT | but let me know if it works or not :) |
| 06:02.53 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 06:03.11 | LinuxNIT | did it work? |
| 06:03.17 | wasynyt | nope same error |
| 06:03.25 | LinuxNIT | darn |
| 06:03.38 | LinuxNIT | sorry i couldnt be of more help :( |
| 06:03.46 | LinuxNIT | but id check #ndiswrapper |
| 06:06.37 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, was the error posted here? |
| 06:07.57 | wasynyt | some part of it yes |
| 06:08.22 | LinuxNIT | copy that and paste it to #ndis ;) |
| 06:09.04 | LinuxNIT | itll give them something wasynyt :) |
| 06:09.20 | LinuxNIT | or it could be the place is dead lol |
| 06:11.20 | wasynyt | lets see.. i will write it whole it takes time :) |
| 06:11.51 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:18.29 | wasynyt | looks nice doesnt it :D |
| 06:18.34 | LinuxNIT | wow |
| 06:18.36 | LinuxNIT | thats a lot |
| 06:18.55 | wasynyt | of course, i said i will |
| 06:19.26 | LinuxNIT | did you check the system log like it said? |
| 06:19.46 | wasynyt | i cant remember where it is |
| 06:20.12 | LinuxNIT | /var/log/syslog i believe |
| 06:23.27 | wasynyt | only error regardin ndiswrapper that i havent yet seen is glibc reporting about invalid pointer |
| 06:24.02 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 06:25.06 | wasynyt | seems that i have to use some dells driver to get this working O_o |
| 06:25.20 | LinuxNIT | could try it |
| 06:38.43 | LinuxNIT | heh i didnt think #ndis would be dead :( |
| 06:38.44 | wasynyt | seems like this one works |
| 06:38.49 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 06:39.03 | LinuxNIT | iwconfig shows the interface? |
| 06:39.16 | wasynyt | yes |
| 06:39.18 | wasynyt | :D |
| 06:39.20 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 06:39.29 | LinuxNIT | congrats man |
| 06:47.39 | wasynyt | and working |
| 06:47.49 | wasynyt | beatiful |
| 06:48.04 | wasynyt | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:49.26 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 06:49.32 | wasynyt | now only that my dvd drive would work |
| 06:49.34 | LinuxNIT | mines not doing so well :( |
| 06:49.43 | wasynyt | why whatswith it |
| 06:49.49 | LinuxNIT | hmm may be I can find alternative drivers |
| 06:50.09 | LinuxNIT | dosent like some aps :( |
| 06:50.15 | wasynyt | http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#B |
| 06:50.19 | wasynyt | try from there |
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| 06:52.32 | LinuxNIT | hmm its there now i just have to figure out what version |
| 06:52.44 | LinuxNIT | guess i have to take it out grr lol |
| 06:52.56 | wasynyt | heh.. or use some info tool |
| 06:53.11 | wasynyt | try lspci |
| 06:53.16 | wasynyt | in terminal |
| 06:53.29 | LinuxNIT | that dont work |
| 06:53.32 | LinuxNIT | ive tried it |
| 06:53.42 | LinuxNIT | it just tells me the chipset :) |
| 06:53.43 | wasynyt | it should.. you rcomp is weird |
| 06:54.08 | wasynyt | well that Ãs just what you need, or not? |
| 06:54.10 | RubenHaugan | try dmesg |
| 06:54.12 | LinuxNIT | yeah it lists it but not the linksys versoin |
| 06:54.17 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 06:54.23 | wasynyt | k |
| 06:54.34 | LinuxNIT | same card has 4 versions |
| 06:54.44 | LinuxNIT | all same chipset and model name |
| 06:54.54 | LinuxNIT | but dif drivers |
| 06:54.55 | wasynyt | nice :D |
| 06:55.00 | LinuxNIT | dunno what else is dif |
| 06:55.11 | wasynyt | perhaps you should try every one of those |
| 06:55.38 | LinuxNIT | lol thats a idea |
| 06:56.15 | wasynyt | i know i would |
| 06:58.00 | wasynyt | if there isonly four options its rather easy :D |
| 06:58.16 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:58.46 | LinuxNIT | yeah but downloading takes a bit on dsl and the driver package wont be small :( |
| 06:59.03 | wasynyt | 10 meg each not that bad.. :D |
| 06:59.30 | wasynyt | or do you have to pay for bandwith |
| 06:59.46 | LinuxNIT | oh nm they have dif chipsets |
| 06:59.56 | LinuxNIT | heh i always thought they were thesame lol |
| 07:00.01 | wasynyt | lol :D |
| 07:01.22 | LinuxNIT | heh its the same thing i allready have downloaded :((( |
| 07:02.09 | LinuxNIT | and its 18 MB not 10 hehehe |
| 07:02.20 | wasynyt | well.. few minutes more |
| 07:04.25 | LinuxNIT | half done :-/ |
| 07:04.42 | wasynyt | how do you install themes in e17 |
| 07:06.02 | LinuxNIT | apt-get them ;) |
| 07:06.12 | LinuxNIT | there are several in the repos ;) |
| 07:06.38 | wasynyt | in apt-get? |
| 07:07.02 | LinuxNIT | yep |
| 07:07.20 | wasynyt | found.. nice :D |
| 07:07.26 | LinuxNIT | or just put the edj file in ~/.e/e/themes |
| 07:09.07 | wasynyt | ok.. i think i'l go apt-get way... damn.. debian is nice |
| 07:09.33 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 07:09.35 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 07:11.36 | wasynyt | it put them in to usr/share/something... do i have to copy them to /home/me/.e/e/themes |
| 07:25.01 | wasynyt | how do i analyze the ammount of free space in my drives in elive? |
| 07:30.38 | LinuxNIT-away | wasynyt, you still there? |
| 07:31.22 | wasynyt | yeo |
| 07:31.32 | LinuxNIT-away | sorry lost connectino and dindt know it |
| 07:31.40 | LinuxNIT-away | did you get themes working?? |
| 07:31.49 | wasynyt | dont care.. yes and back grounds :D |
| 07:32.29 | LinuxNIT-away | i use gparted to tell me how much room is left / used on a partition |
| 07:32.44 | LinuxNIT-away | could be a better way but idont know it :) |
| 07:32.44 | wasynyt | did a fulll apt-get dist-upgrade thru synaptic and now installing some games, i found i too |
| 07:32.52 | wasynyt | :) |
| 07:32.56 | LinuxNIT-away | cool |
| 07:34.23 | wasynyt | only thing that doesnt work is my dvd drive |
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| 07:37.48 | LinuxNIT-away | wierd |
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| 07:38.48 | wasynyt | i agree |
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| 08:04.06 | Elive_user92 | can anyone here use the 3D Desktop in Elive 0.4 ? |
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| 08:16.13 | Pntbllfrk | is there a command to display your computer specs? |
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| 08:56.28 | Lacteus | Bonjour |
| 08:56.37 | wasynyt | morning |
| 08:56.45 | Jambon | Bonjour |
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| 09:38.40 | RubenHaugan | . |
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| 09:42.59 | Elive_user96 | wow, i just started the e-live cd for the first time... and im very impressed |
| 09:43.40 | RubenHaugan|work | Most people feel that the first time:-) |
| 09:44.12 | gryn | it's absolutely beautiful... i hope it performs as well as it looks |
| 09:45.24 | RubenHaugan|work | It performs real good, actually |
| 09:45.57 | Drex99 | I think so too |
| 09:46.24 | Drex99 | How do I brouse my Internal network? |
| 09:46.24 | gryn | Good, then im very excited about it... i also tried a distro called goblinX... it was very attractive but lacked performance. |
| 09:46.55 | Drex99 | cd performance sux anyways doode |
| 09:47.13 | wasynyt | timo |
| 09:47.15 | wasynyt | tankki |
| 09:47.17 | wasynyt | su |
| 09:47.58 | gryn | yes i kno... i had it installed on the harddrive.. |
| 09:51.46 | gryn | elite is debian based correct? |
| 09:52.59 | gryn | *elive |
| 09:53.48 | RubenHaugan|work | yes |
| 09:53.54 | RubenHaugan|work | based on ethc (testing) |
| 09:53.59 | RubenHaugan|work | etch |
| 09:54.46 | gryn | ok... im kinda new to linux... but i like debians packages |
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| 09:59.45 | RubenHaugan|work | in terms of package management and stability, debian is a very good system indeed |
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| 10:01.12 | Drex99 | Iright clicked inside this window and it crashed. |
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| 10:05.43 | Elive_user44 | someone can help me here? |
| 10:05.58 | Elive_user44 | ThanaZzz, ? |
| 10:06.22 | Elive_user44 | cant install elive |
| 10:06.43 | Elive_user44 | kernel panic du tu my hard disk in sata |
| 10:07.32 | Elive_user44 | Jambon, |
| 10:08.41 | Elive_user96 | im not sure... but i dont think elive has sata support? |
| 10:08.43 | Elive_user96 | i could be wrong |
| 10:09.26 | Elive_user44 | it s ok with modules kernel |
| 10:09.31 | Drex99 | sata has probs, yes. |
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| 10:10.43 | pizux | ok |
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| 10:15.32 | gryn | does elive crash out alot? or is it possibly just cuz im runnin it off the live cd? |
| 10:18.22 | kr1stof | It didn't crash at all here, not even as live CD |
| 10:19.55 | gryn | well it doesnt really crash... just exits the enlightenment... and has just a dos type konsole. |
| 10:20.20 | pizux | i was saying thet in fact my hard disk is recognize as sda in any distrib but in elive is recognize as sde |
| 10:20.38 | pizux | i think it's my install rproblem * |
| 10:20.42 | pizux | any idea? |
| 10:21.08 | pizux | i cant bore that i cant ionstall it :(((( |
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| 10:23.20 | kr1stof | No idea. I was lucky with two different machines. |
| 10:23.34 | RubenHaugan|work | I think there is a package you should install before you do a HD-inst. Ask Gwildor or roxville when they're back. |
| 10:23.45 | kr1stof | Even 0.3 did it for me |
| 10:24.12 | pizux | ok is it possible to ugrade to from apt? |
| 10:24.22 | pizux | 03 too 04? |
| 10:24.30 | RubenHaugan|work | yes, in livecd mode |
| 10:25.57 | pycs | is it really possible, i thought thana, it can but not e17 |
| 10:30.34 | gryn | i think i may install elive over mepis. |
| 10:31.04 | pycs | gryn, :) thats good.. :) |
| 10:32.15 | gryn | Hehe yes pycs... i've been using this for only a few minutes and i really enjoy it... their is just so many files i have to backup b4 i do install.. |
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| 10:32.24 | gryn | tomorrow project |
| 10:32.46 | pycs | :) |
| 10:34.07 | gryn | well it's very late... or very early depending on how you look at it... i'll return tomorrow as a Elive user. |
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| 10:35.18 | pycs | i'm still in pre and having trouble burning the final... can't burn from pre.. :( |
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| 10:45.01 | pizux | yop any one know about the sata package in synaptic? |
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| 11:29.20 | PenKoad | hi all |
| 11:29.26 | wasynyt | hi |
| 11:36.59 | RubenHaugan|work | hi |
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| 12:01.10 | Elive_user76 | hello |
| 12:01.15 | wasynyt | hello |
| 12:01.38 | dschohennes | remember me? |
| 12:02.07 | dschohennes | just doing the installation |
| 12:02.14 | wasynyt | ahh.. yes |
| 12:02.19 | dschohennes | no problem with the sata |
| 12:02.25 | wasynyt | good :D |
| 12:02.29 | dschohennes | just loaded ahci and it seems to work |
| 12:02.50 | dschohennes | which file sysem would you recommend me? |
| 12:02.57 | wasynyt | reiserfs |
| 12:03.01 | dschohennes | k |
| 12:03.06 | eshep | dschohennes, your installing elive on a sata drive? |
| 12:03.17 | dschohennes | eshep: yes |
| 12:03.55 | eshep | what special did you have to do to make it install? |
| 12:04.09 | dschohennes | just loading the sata-ahci-module |
| 12:04.31 | dschohennes | in the module-selector started from the menu |
| 12:04.46 | dschohennes | just search for /drivers/sata or something |
| 12:04.58 | dschohennes | and in the following menu is chose ahci |
| 12:05.03 | dschohennes | is -> i |
| 12:06.40 | dschohennes | wasynyt: what swap size would you recommend me for elive? |
| 12:06.49 | eshep | cool! loaded on the livecd, then install eh? |
| 12:07.09 | dschohennes | exactly |
| 12:07.14 | eshep | dschohennes, just double what your ram is... |
| 12:07.21 | dschohennes | ok |
| 12:07.23 | wasynyt | 1 gb is good, but if you have laptop use at least twice yoour ram |
| 12:07.29 | eshep | does thana know about this? |
| 12:07.42 | wasynyt | should... |
| 12:07.44 | RubenHaugan|work | if you have ram >- 512MB you don'r really need swap |
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| 12:08.05 | wasynyt | dunno i have neede |
| 12:08.09 | wasynyt | *needed |
| 12:08.18 | dschohennes | hm |
| 12:08.35 | RubenHaugan|work | Unless you run some really demanding programs (heavy editing in gimp etc) |
| 12:08.35 | dschohennes | i'll take 2gig and everything is allright |
| 12:08.53 | dschohennes | i got 1024MB RAM |
| 12:08.56 | wasynyt | you have laptop? with one gig of mem |
| 12:09.14 | eshep | RubenHaugan|work, im supposed to live without the gimp.......? |
| 12:09.15 | RubenHaugan|work | well, if you've got the space, swap won't hurt |
| 12:09.37 | RubenHaugan|work | NO, one can't live without the GIMP! |
| 12:10.00 | RubenHaugan|work | :-P |
| 12:10.00 | dschohennes | i got my 150gb home-harddrive and the other one is for different ditros |
| 12:10.18 | dschohennes | and also has 150gb |
| 12:10.24 | dschohennes | so i GOT the space :) |
| 12:10.25 | wasynyt | if you are not running on laptop one gig will easily do |
| 12:10.48 | wasynyt | i have 280 gig and i have some 20-30 gig free :( |
| 12:11.31 | dschohennes | how much will elive-installation take? |
| 12:11.43 | wasynyt | below 5 gb |
| 12:11.49 | wasynyt | id say 3 gb |
| 12:11.50 | RubenHaugan|work | rouhly 1.8 |
| 12:11.57 | wasynyt | be sure and have 5 |
| 12:11.57 | RubenHaugan|work | roughly |
| 12:12.03 | dschohennes | i'll have 10 |
| 12:12.04 | RubenHaugan|work | hehe |
| 12:12.10 | wasynyt | :D |
| 12:12.21 | dschohennes | ;) |
| 12:12.35 | RubenHaugan|work | "df -m" says 1847 M used on my machine. Pretty clean install |
| 12:12.49 | wasynyt | agree... |
| 12:13.30 | wasynyt | not too many extra games installed.. but why elive has firefox 1.07 and not 1.5.xxx |
| 12:15.35 | RubenHaugan|work | I don't know. 1.0.7 works fine though |
| 12:15.58 | wasynyt | not for me.. 1.5 has so many nice features.. :D |
| 12:16.24 | wasynyt | it even installed flash automatically ! |
| 12:18.03 | eshep | wasynyt, 1.5 is still kinda buggy on linux...so ive heard, i hant tried it myself |
| 12:18.50 | wasynyt | eshep, i have used it quite a while now... only bug that i have found is that x11 mouse themes wont work with it |
| 12:19.27 | eshep | wasynyt, if you want java, just install the java pkg...it has it aaaaaaallllllll |
| 12:19.49 | wasynyt | eshep, ? |
| 12:20.00 | wasynyt | o_O |
| 12:20.11 | eshep | sorry, gettin the kids in bed right now so... |
| 12:20.19 | wasynyt | k |
| 12:20.36 | eshep | so youve had no crasing with 1.5 huh? |
| 12:20.40 | roxville | eshep, ??? |
| 12:20.41 | wasynyt | nope |
| 12:20.43 | dererk | wasynyt, 'cause Elive is based on Debian Etch |
| 12:20.52 | dererk | And that version of FF isn't on Testing |
| 12:21.20 | dererk | Besides it's known as unstable by it's owns devels |
| 12:21.20 | wasynyt | ah.. ok. |
| 12:21.32 | wasynyt | works for me :D |
| 12:21.39 | eshep | dererk, i just read tat for etch, debian removed sparc from their platforms... |
| 12:21.40 | dererk | Hope It'll on the next realise |
| 12:21.44 | roxville | eshep, ping |
| 12:21.56 | roxville | oh... hi dude :) |
| 12:21.59 | dererk | eshep, really? |
| 12:22.00 | RubenHaugan|work | flash is included by default |
| 12:22.04 | eshep | gimme 20mins guys... |
| 12:22.19 | dererk | That's not good |
| 12:22.20 | dschohennes | hf |
| 12:22.58 | wasynyt | i mean that i downloaded the ff 1.5 package, gzipped it and browsed in to a site that had flash movie, it said no flash but insalled it by itself |
| 12:22.58 | roxville | ok... i gotta get my step son to school in 7 mins... hopefully i'll get back beforew you go to bed :) |
| 12:23.32 | roxville | that's pretty cool wasynyt |
| 12:23.41 | wasynyt | that is |
| 12:23.52 | wasynyt | :D |
| 12:24.27 | roxville | lol |
| 12:24.44 | roxville | RubenHaugan|work, i have a song about something like that :) |
| 12:25.01 | RubenHaugan|work | she just found about vnc, you know:-) Damn intruder. |
| 12:25.26 | roxville | http://roxville.no-ip.org/public_html/Chris_Recordings/Standing_On_Your_Doorstep.mp3 |
| 12:25.43 | roxville | there... composed, played and sung by yours truly |
| 12:26.09 | roxville | RubenHaugan|work, i do vnc her ubuntu every now and then |
| 12:27.07 | RubenHaugan|work | downloading it now. Yep, I vnc'ed my father-in-law the other day. He was screaming by the time i opened notepad and wrote "The end is near!" |
| 12:29.08 | roxville | LOL! |
| 12:29.15 | wasynyt | :) |
| 12:29.52 | roxville | ok, bbiab |
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| 12:33.46 | b1ufox | Thana you there ? |
| 12:34.18 | b1ufox | Wanna ask something ? |
| 12:35.13 | RubenHaugan|work | Don't think his here |
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| 12:48.49 | RubenHaugan|work | welcome:-) |
| 12:48.57 | roxville | thx :) |
| 12:49.27 | RubenHaugan|work | By the way, on your homepage you have some screenshots of e17 with icons for disks/drives. Whats that? |
| 12:50.18 | roxville | the icons in a window or on the desktop? |
| 12:50.30 | RubenHaugan|work | desktop, left side of the screen |
| 12:50.40 | roxville | the desktop icons is the e17 mount manager |
| 12:51.06 | RubenHaugan|work | ah, I get it. |
| 12:51.21 | RubenHaugan|work | I spend most of my time in e16 |
| 12:51.36 | roxville | it almost worked back the... a couple of months ago... then it worked for a few weeks... the... it didn't. |
| 12:51.47 | roxville | i don't know if it works now |
| 12:51.55 | roxville | yeah, me too |
| 12:52.27 | b1ufox | roxville, xterm's fonts are screwed |
| 12:52.32 | b1ufox | any idea why is so? |
| 12:52.40 | roxville | there's still a memory leak in xorg that causes swap to just fill up |
| 12:52.54 | RubenHaugan|work | check the bug section on elivecd.org |
| 12:52.56 | roxville | i sure hope xorg7 will hit etch soon! |
| 12:52.59 | RubenHaugan|work | ipdate language pack |
| 12:53.33 | eshep | yo roxville, im back now. whats up? |
| 12:53.37 | RubenHaugan|work | I'll be back in 20 mins. Meeting. |
| 12:54.32 | roxville | yes b1ufox update your language pack... or in elpanel set your preffered language again... i think this problem occurs when you don't choose english as language when first installing... but i'm not totally sure |
| 12:55.17 | b1ufox | thanks roxville plus even xfe fonts are screwed up ... is this the same prob? |
| 12:56.01 | roxville | if it has to do with the chosen language, yes |
| 12:56.24 | b1ufox | i chose english as default but still :( |
| 12:57.58 | b1ufox | gtg |
| 12:58.04 | b1ufox | bye all |
| 12:58.10 | dererk | b1ufox, Read the site in bugs section |
| 12:58.18 | b1ufox | ok dererk thanks |
| 12:58.26 | dererk | yw |
| 12:58.26 | b1ufox | thanks for such a wonderful distro |
| 12:58.41 | b1ufox | but one thing i perosnally feel is lacking |
| 12:58.54 | b1ufox | is GDB .. should have been there by default |
| 12:59.03 | b1ufox | give it a thought dererk |
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| 12:59.40 | dschohennes | hummm |
| 12:59.53 | dschohennes | i installed it without errors |
| 12:59.53 | eshep | dschohennes, so...your on instaled elive now, right? |
| 13:00.08 | dschohennes | but i get a kernel panic when is boot |
| 13:00.22 | dschohennes | *i |
| 13:00.45 | dschohennes | pivot_root: No such file or directory |
| 13:01.07 | dschohennes | /sbin/init: 432: cannot open dev/console: No such file |
| 13:01.26 | dschohennes | Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! |
| 13:02.08 | dschohennes | the sata module is loaded, should not be the problem imo |
| 13:03.11 | eshep | dschohennes, dumb question...did you make sure you had kernel support in your kernel? |
| 13:03.35 | dschohennes | kernel support? |
| 13:03.38 | dschohennes | what do you mean? |
| 13:07.28 | eshep | i think there is an option in the kernel for sata support |
| 13:08.53 | dschohennes | yes shure else i could not have installed it on a sata drive |
| 13:12.56 | eshep | that was from the livecd mode, its a diferent kernel after install |
| 13:18.18 | dschohennes | humm |
| 13:18.51 | dschohennes | so what do u think i have to do? |
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| 13:24.34 | eshep | chroot over to your installed one and rebuild yer kernel |
| 13:25.02 | dschohennes | humm |
| 13:25.09 | dschohennes | got no idea how |
| 13:25.15 | dschohennes | never built a kernel |
| 13:25.35 | eshep | its not as bad as you might think |
| 13:28.22 | eshep | wait a sec, dont do that, it reads my sata drive just fine... |
| 13:28.36 | eshep | try running the installer again |
| 13:28.44 | eshep | it sounds dumb but... |
| 13:29.18 | eshep | i had errors on the first boot as soon as it started detecting sata |
| 13:29.39 | eshep | reinstalled and everything was cool, thats what im running now |
| 13:30.05 | dschohennes | okay |
| 13:30.18 | dschohennes | i'm doing that anyways |
| 13:30.46 | dschohennes | started before you told me... because i did not do the latest upgrades last time |
| 13:31.19 | dschohennes | i did the update but not the upgrade... my first debian u see :) |
| 13:33.39 | eshep | apt-get dist-upgrade is always better... |
| 13:34.53 | dschohennes | i used archlinux before and it uses the (imo) perfect packagemanager pacman |
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| 13:35.41 | dschohennes | but now is want a sexy, easy wm-optimized distro because i don't want to recondigure all the time |
| 13:35.47 | dschohennes | *f |
| 13:36.23 | dschohennes | i got an is-day today... everytime i want to write "i" i write "is" at first... never happened before :/ |
| 13:38.30 | eshep | ive noticed |
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| 13:38.34 | eshep | :) |
| 13:42.03 | dschohennes | ok i'll try again |
| 13:42.09 | dschohennes | is'll |
| 13:42.13 | dschohennes | brb |
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| 13:50.15 | dschohennes | yeah |
| 13:50.17 | dschohennes | works |
| 13:50.22 | dschohennes | simple mistake |
| 13:50.45 | dschohennes | booting the livecd the partition is sdb6 |
| 13:50.55 | dschohennes | but for grub its sda6 of course |
| 13:50.58 | dschohennes | stupid |
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| 13:57.11 | eshep | haha, cool! so yer up on sata then... |
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| 14:00.45 | dschohennes | indeed |
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| 14:13.20 | wasynyt_ | howto to but icons into the engage |
| 14:13.42 | roxville | wasynyt, in e17? |
| 14:13.47 | roxville | or e16 |
| 14:13.53 | wasynyt_ | e17 |
| 14:14.06 | roxville | in terminal: entangle |
| 14:14.41 | wasynyt_ | thank you |
| 14:14.46 | roxville | from the left window, with the icons, drag the over to desired menu/dock |
| 14:14.58 | roxville | ei mitaa :) |
| 14:15.29 | wasynyt_ | ok |
| 14:15.30 | wasynyt_ | :D |
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| 14:21.03 | wasynyt_ | how do i add konqueror in to engage, i have installed it |
| 14:21.07 | wasynyt_ | and it works |
| 14:21.18 | roxville | did you make an eapp? |
| 14:21.34 | wasynyt_ | i think so |
| 14:21.39 | wasynyt_ | :S |
| 14:21.44 | roxville | lol |
| 14:21.56 | roxville | did you? |
| 14:22.13 | wasynyt_ | i tried :D how do i know i did? |
| 14:22.59 | roxville | if it's in entangle, and you put the eap in ?.e/e/applications/all and see it there, then you did |
| 14:23.36 | roxville | do you see it in entangle? |
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| 14:23.47 | wasynyt_ | hmm |
| 14:23.50 | roxville | morning, sir Gwildor |
| 14:24.25 | roxville | sir Gwildor is on pentoo... |
| 14:25.01 | wasynyt_ | nope, cant see it there |
| 14:25.05 | roxville | anybody at home with teamspeak and usb headsets? |
| 14:25.16 | Gwildor | not usb.... |
| 14:25.22 | roxville | ok wasynyt then you didn't make it |
| 14:25.23 | Gwildor | heh, no TS right now eaither...... |
| 14:25.32 | roxville | lol |
| 14:25.34 | Gwildor | would ahve to compile it |
| 14:25.41 | wasynyt_ | :( |
| 14:25.57 | roxville | wasynyt, is konq open? |
| 14:26.19 | wasynyt_ | it si now |
| 14:26.22 | wasynyt_ | *is |
| 14:26.33 | roxville | ok, click in the upper left corner |
| 14:26.41 | wasynyt_ | k |
| 14:26.55 | roxville | in the menu, does it say "create icon" or edit icon? |
| 14:27.01 | wasynyt_ | ok |
| 14:27.04 | wasynyt_ | found |
| 14:27.17 | roxville | in the menu, does it say "create icon" or edit icon? |
| 14:27.29 | wasynyt_ | create icon |
| 14:27.33 | roxville | ok... |
| 14:27.50 | roxville | that means you did not make an eapp...or quite succeed |
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| 14:28.15 | roxville | you should have the path, all you need to do, is add an icon |
| 14:28.29 | roxville | wasynyt, do you have a icon at hand? |
| 14:28.34 | wasynyt_ | yes.. trying to find suitable |
| 14:28.45 | roxville | oki |
| 14:29.05 | roxville | if you install the exquisite icons from elive, you have one there |
| 14:29.21 | wasynyt_ | i downloaded one kde-icon set |
| 14:29.28 | roxville | ok |
| 14:29.37 | roxville | you can use whatever icon you want |
| 14:29.42 | wasynyt_ | i knoe |
| 14:29.46 | wasynyt_ | *know |
| 14:29.48 | roxville | as long as they are not svg |
| 14:29.54 | roxville | good |
| 14:30.00 | wasynyt_ | png |
| 14:30.12 | wasynyt_ | 128x128 :D |
| 14:30.34 | roxville | hyvää poikaa Ö= |
| 14:30.43 | roxville | :) |
| 14:30.48 | wasynyt_ | kiitos |
| 14:31.18 | roxville | ei mitää |
| 14:32.33 | wasynyt_ | this macos like bar (engage?) is quite nice :D |
| 14:32.51 | roxville | yes, i love it |
| 14:33.35 | wasynyt_ | but it think your default filebrowser is crap |
| 14:34.01 | roxville | yeah... it is not being developed any more |
| 14:34.18 | wasynyt_ | too bad.. |
| 14:34.18 | roxville | but thana refuses to use konq |
| 14:34.18 | Gwildor | really?...its dead? |
| 14:34.22 | Gwildor | konq is a K app? |
| 14:34.22 | roxville | yep |
| 14:34.30 | Gwildor | ^^? |
| 14:34.33 | roxville | yes |
| 14:34.39 | wasynyt_ | i remember thana telling me something like h edoesnt like kde libs |
| 14:34.41 | Gwildor | grr, if he includes it, i quit elive |
| 14:34.48 | Gwildor | i HATE KDE LIBS |
| 14:34.48 | roxville | itäs kdeäs file manager-web browser |
| 14:34.54 | roxville | hehe |
| 14:35.00 | Gwildor | oh...konquerer |
| 14:35.01 | wasynyt_ | ? |
| 14:35.01 | roxville | oops |
| 14:35.14 | roxville | sorry, my charset is swedis right now... |
| 14:35.21 | Gwildor | yeah,.....plz dont try to get him to do that...... |
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| 14:35.51 | wasynyt_ | i wont.. i can allways install it by myself :D |
| 14:36.04 | roxville | i am not too fond of kde libs either, but konqueror is a very good app |
| 14:36.26 | roxville | otherwise apple would not have used most of it for their sfari browserr |
| 14:36.37 | wasynyt_ | true :D |
| 14:39.10 | roxville | wasynyt, how is you eapp coming along_ |
| 14:39.31 | roxville | did you get it to work? |
| 14:39.35 | wasynyt_ | done :D |
| 14:39.39 | Gwildor | its too heavy.......or i woudnt mind it.......that and ist almost crash's as much as E17 |
| 14:39.46 | roxville | awesome!! |
| 14:41.15 | roxville | paljon onneavaan... paljon onneavaan.... |
| 14:41.21 | RubenHaugan|work | konqueror is trash. I got "sigsev"-errors twice a minute when I used KDE... |
| 14:41.24 | wasynyt_ | now that my dvd drive would work it would perfect |
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| 14:41.43 | wasynyt_ | kiitos paljon |
| 14:42.04 | roxville | ok, i am goona switch charset again |
| 14:42.12 | wasynyt_ | do that |
| 14:42.31 | RubenHaugan|work | I don't understand why they integrated filemanager & browser, it's a matter of taste of course, but I did't like it. |
| 14:42.58 | roxville | it is good to have in handy when swedes-finns-norwegians-danes show up though... |
| 14:43.05 | RubenHaugan|work | :-D |
| 14:43.08 | wasynyt_ | i think its matter simplicity |
| 14:43.20 | wasynyt_ | :D |
| 14:43.20 | RubenHaugan|work | äöå |
| 14:43.26 | wasynyt_ | öäå |
| 14:44.37 | wasynyt_ | could someone tell me how do i know if my dvd drive is recognized byt elive |
| 14:44.53 | wasynyt_ | i installed it with it, bu tnow it wont moun tanything |
| 14:45.07 | roxville | wow... |
| 14:45.20 | roxville | scite /etc/fstab |
| 14:45.45 | wasynyt_ | /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660,auto users,noauto,exec,ro 0 0 |
| 14:45.51 | wasynyt_ | could it be this |
| 14:46.28 | roxville | you have one drive? |
| 14:46.33 | wasynyt_ | only one |
| 14:46.35 | roxville | ok |
| 14:46.53 | roxville | you need to add a line just like that, but with dvd in it |
| 14:46.54 | Gwildor | wasynyt, out in a DVD>......mine worked by defaut....and was able to play |
| 14:47.13 | Gwildor | put |
| 14:47.18 | wasynyt_ | well i could install elive tusing it :S |
| 14:48.28 | wasynyt_ | dvd in |
| 14:48.32 | roxville | /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd udf,iso9660,auto users,noauto,exec,ro 0 0 |
| 14:48.52 | roxville | add that line in fstab and see what happens |
| 14:49.37 | roxville | yeah, ivman should mount it automatically |
| 14:50.16 | wasynyt_ | nothing happening |
| 14:50.43 | wasynyt_ | perhaps my dvd is empty ill try with a cd |
| 14:50.56 | roxville | ok see if you can mount via elpanel |
| 14:51.23 | roxville | no you have to use a dvd... don't you have a movie or something? |
| 14:51.46 | wasynyt_ | nope.. i need to find that game dvd |
| 14:52.03 | Gwildor | right, thats what i was saying...try watching a movie DVD.... |
| 14:52.17 | Gwildor | GRR...i hate that confusion......dvd is a bad name |
| 14:52.34 | Gwildor | why does my "digital video disk" not have digital video on it? |
| 14:52.53 | wasynyt_ | not possible no movies around.. i want to mount game disc cd or dvd :S |
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| 14:53.04 | Gwildor | ur cd's arent mounting either? |
| 14:53.17 | Gwildor | hehe, i should check mine.........:P |
| 14:53.29 | wasynyt_ | nothing is mounting in that drive |
| 14:53.43 | wasynyt_ | farcry dvd in :D |
| 14:53.50 | Gwildor | past ur fstab again plz |
| 14:53.54 | wasynyt_ | ok |
| 14:53.56 | Gwildor | let me pull up mine |
| 14:54.04 | wasynyt_ | /dev/sda2/reiserfsdefaults00 |
| 14:54.04 | wasynyt_ | /dev/sda3noneswapsw00 |
| 14:54.04 | wasynyt_ | proc/procprocdefaults00 |
| 14:54.04 | wasynyt_ | none/syssysfsdefaults00 |
| 14:54.04 | wasynyt_ | /dev/sda4/homereiserfsdefaults01 |
| 14:54.04 | wasynyt_ | /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 auto noauto,users,exec,umask=000 0 0 |
| 14:54.06 | wasynyt_ | /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660,auto users,noauto,exec,ro 0 0 |
| 14:54.08 | wasynyt_ | /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd udf,iso9660,auto users,noauto,exec,ro 0 0 |
| 14:54.29 | eggman | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.52 | wasynyt_ | k |
| 14:55.09 | Gwildor | mine is /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,user 0 0 |
| 14:55.13 | Gwildor | try that |
| 14:55.44 | Gwildor | im not sure if DVD's are still iso9660............... |
| 14:56.21 | wasynyt_ | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9125 |
| 14:56.30 | Gwildor | mine is /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,user 0 0 |
| 14:56.32 | Gwildor | try that |
| 14:57.06 | Gwildor | ahh, you will prob need the exec on urs too |
| 14:57.09 | Gwildor | <exec> |
| 14:57.28 | roxville | /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660,auto users,noauto,exec,ro 0 0 |
| 14:57.32 | roxville | this is mine |
| 14:57.43 | Gwildor | for dvd rox? |
| 14:59.23 | roxville | for both |
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| 14:59.41 | roxville | i dodn't have a dvd burner, just a player... it's cdrom1 |
| 14:59.52 | roxville | /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660,auto users,noauto,exec,ro 0 0 |
| 14:59.53 | roxville | /dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1 udf,iso9660,auto users,noauto,exec,ro 0 0 |
| 14:59.55 | Gwildor | right....mines not a bunre either....jsut reader |
| 14:59.55 | roxville | like that |
| 15:00.21 | Gwildor | yeah, but using cdrom would be fine, if its the only drive.... |
| 15:00.34 | wasynyt_ | my drive is dual layer burner |
| 15:00.44 | Gwildor | still same thing.....should be |
| 15:01.01 | wasynyt_ | yes |
| 15:01.11 | Gwildor | *i think* *nix just has to recognize the drive.....the drive firmware should handle the rest |
| 15:01.38 | wasynyt_ | i think so too.. but it worked with livecd |
| 15:01.42 | wasynyt_ | :( |
| 15:01.51 | Gwildor | it doesnt work AT ALL now? |
| 15:01.55 | Gwildor | not even with a cd? |
| 15:02.14 | wasynyt_ | after the install it hasnt worked with anything |
| 15:02.29 | Gwildor | hmmm....any thing else you can boot from the HDD? |
| 15:02.39 | Gwildor | any other nix? |
| 15:02.50 | Gwildor | OR...hmm, you could boot the live CD>....and steal the fstab... |
| 15:03.50 | roxville | wasynyt, as root: mount /dev/cdrom |
| 15:04.41 | roxville | yep, that's fine |
| 15:04.53 | wasynyt_ | hmm |
| 15:04.55 | roxville | what does it say? |
| 15:05.02 | wasynyt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.02 | wasynyt_ | [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab |
| 15:05.02 | wasynyt_ | mount: unknown filesystem type 'auto' |
| 15:05.57 | roxville | the final end line, what ever that is... is probably your prob |
| 15:06.07 | Gwildor | hmm, go back to fstab....make a few blank lines at the end,..... |
| 15:06.14 | roxville | yeah |
| 15:06.47 | wasynyt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.48 | wasynyt_ | mount: unknown filesystem type 'auto' |
| 15:06.53 | Gwildor | thats kinda silly though |
| 15:07.33 | wasynyt_ | h,, what happens if i remove th eauto |
| 15:08.15 | wasynyt_ | ari@arin-kone[~]$ sudo mount /dev/cdrom |
| 15:08.15 | wasynyt_ | mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist |
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| 15:08.57 | kender | hi |
| 15:09.01 | wasynyt_ | hi |
| 15:09.07 | Gwildor | hi |
| 15:09.23 | wasynyt_ | what was the place where all devices where listed |
| 15:09.41 | RubenHaugan|work | try "eject /dev/dvd", it should work in elive by default |
| 15:10.11 | wasynyt_ | eject /dev/dvd |
| 15:10.11 | wasynyt_ | eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/dvd' |
| 15:10.11 | wasynyt_ | ari@arin-kone[~]$ eject /dev/cdrom |
| 15:10.11 | wasynyt_ | eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/cdrom' |
| 15:10.28 | RubenHaugan|work | try "sudo chmod 675 /dev/cdrom" |
| 15:10.45 | wasynyt_ | sudo chmod 675 /dev/cdrom |
| 15:10.45 | wasynyt_ | chmod: tiedostoa "/dev/cdrom" ei voi käsitellä: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole |
| 15:10.47 | RubenHaugan|work | and then "eject /dev/cdrom" |
| 15:11.01 | RubenHaugan|work | :-) |
| 15:11.13 | wasynyt_ | sprry for non english language |
| 15:11.26 | roxville | "/dev/cdrom" ei voi käsitellä: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole <- ei hyvää |
| 15:11.47 | eggman | Thana, is the reason theres no SATA support cause you dont have a SATA drive? |
| 15:11.47 | RubenHaugan|work | try "sudo ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/hdc" _IF_ hdc is your dvd-drive |
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| 15:11.53 | wasynyt_ | ei ollenkaan.. se sanoo et semmosta ei ookkaan |
| 15:12.13 | roxville | eggman, you have to do his full nick |
| 15:12.28 | eggman | ThanaZzz, is the reason theres no SATA support cause you dont have a SATA drive? |
| 15:12.33 | roxville | yeah wasynyt hmmm... |
| 15:12.39 | wasynyt_ | my elive has decided that there is no dvd drive and never will be :( |
| 15:12.54 | roxville | seems you have some sort of permissions or locale prob... |
| 15:12.59 | RubenHaugan|work | You sure it is actually working? |
| 15:13.08 | RubenHaugan|work | physically? |
| 15:13.47 | wasynyt_ | yes i have windows in the same machine and there it works and in elivecd mode it works too |
| 15:13.50 | roxville | i think he burned the cd on it... |
| 15:14.04 | wasynyt_ | :D |
| 15:15.34 | eggman | What drive model is it? |
| 15:15.39 | wasynyt_ | hmm |
| 15:15.55 | RubenHaugan|work | and i guess it's IDE? |
| 15:15.59 | wasynyt_ | dunno.. i cant remember |
| 15:16.05 | wasynyt_ | yes it is ide |
| 15:16.11 | roxville | wasynyt, do an elive-skel upgrade, or in elpanel "personal configurations upgrader" choose ivman, reboot and see again |
| 15:17.09 | wasynyt_ | see you |
| 15:17.26 | roxville | eggman, get in e16 and in the menu there's a "config kernel modules" option |
| 15:18.06 | eggman | then i scroll through the list and find the sata sction |
| 15:18.15 | eggman | in on windows now rox |
| 15:18.29 | roxville | ok |
| 15:18.43 | roxville | was i supposed to know that? :) |
| 15:19.00 | eggman | im trying to fiure out which one to use |
| 15:20.02 | eggman | rox just use the CTCP tool :) |
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| 15:21.16 | eggman | http://linux-ata.org/sata-status.html#nvidia |
| 15:21.35 | eggman | that website looks promising for anyone trying to get SATA worknig |
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| 15:23.08 | roxville | eggman, i don't know what the ctcp is for |
| 15:24.01 | wasynyt_ | no ge.. :( |
| 15:24.07 | wasynyt_ | *no go |
| 15:25.06 | eggman | just click on my name and go CTCP then version |
| 15:25.14 | eggman | it will tell you what client im using |
| 15:25.30 | Gwildor | hmm, werid it didnt work... |
| 15:25.37 | Gwildor | didnt spit the info.. |
| 15:26.09 | RubenHaugan|work | brb |
| 15:28.59 | roxville | oh, ok, now i get it... |
| 15:30.43 | eggman | xchat 2.4.5 Linux 2.6.12 [i686/1.60GHz] is what rox is on |
| 15:31.24 | roxville | amazing... |
| 15:31.43 | roxville | and vitamin B12... but it doesn't say that... |
| 15:32.02 | eggman | well it didnt have time to get a urine sample |
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| 15:35.42 | roxville | LMAO! |
| 15:35.54 | eggman | ? |
| 15:36.10 | roxville | eggman well it didnt have time to get a urine sample |
| 15:36.16 | roxville | it was funny |
| 15:36.22 | roxville | so i laughed |
| 15:36.25 | roxville | ok? |
| 15:36.26 | eggman | i see |
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| 15:36.35 | b1ufox | how do i add icons on the ibar and remove them ? |
| 15:37.19 | b1ufox | Thanatermesis, evidence is really wonderful infact most beautiful file explorer i have ever seen thanks for it :) |
| 15:38.10 | b1ufox | but it crashes at times though rarely , restarting e17 fixes the prob but stil i wanted it to be more robust:) |
| 15:38.14 | roxville | b1ufox, you need to open your newly installed app from a terminal |
| 15:38.51 | eggman | b1ufox, well E17 is still in devopment |
| 15:38.54 | b1ufox | ok so will ir fix crashes in evidence ? |
| 15:38.58 | b1ufox | ok eggman |
| 15:39.18 | b1ufox | i generally ran evidence through run dialog box |
| 15:39.39 | b1ufox | i am desparately waiting for e17 to get stable :) |
| 15:40.14 | roxville | b1ufox, evidence is no lonher being developed... thana went through hell to get it to work att all in this version of elive |
| 15:40.40 | roxville | there is a new e17 fm on the horizon, but it sucks right now |
| 15:41.44 | b1ufox | oh thats sad :( |
| 15:43.16 | Gwildor | whats wrong with evidence...why they kill it? |
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| 15:43.32 | b1ufox | but hats off to Thanatermesis , he did a gr8 job |
| 15:43.43 | roxville | the woman who made it doesn't feel like doing it anymore... i guess |
| 15:43.57 | b1ufox | woman ? |
| 15:44.25 | roxville | yep |
| 15:44.32 | roxville | her nick is Azundris |
| 15:45.40 | roxville | b1ufox, i'm trying to tech you how to make an eapp, so you can put an icon in ibra or menu or where you want |
| 15:45.52 | roxville | open your app via terminal |
| 15:46.16 | Gwildor | what the diff between ibar and engage? |
| 15:46.19 | roxville | click in the upper left corner... you get a menu... choose "create icon" |
| 15:46.42 | roxville | Gwildor, ... not totally sure... |
| 15:46.45 | Gwildor | lol |
| 15:46.55 | Gwildor | one dead, one alive... |
| 15:47.14 | roxville | b1ufox, you NEED to have an icon set so you can choose one |
| 15:47.37 | roxville | the easiest is to have one in your home dir |
| 15:47.52 | Gwildor | /home/icons or /home/.icons so you dont have to look at them all day |
| 15:48.16 | roxville | lol Gwildor ... i guess... i like 'em both actually. |
| 15:48.29 | roxville | yeah |
| 15:48.41 | Gwildor | :) |
| 15:48.57 | b1ufox | thanks roxville got it ... now i think too much of GUI is also evil....lol |
| 15:48.59 | b1ufox | :) |
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| 15:49.16 | Gwildor | Hooters :P |
| 15:49.24 | o[WildChild]o | yop ! :) |
| 15:49.41 | Gwildor | thats what i thought..."this guy is between some titis" |
| 15:49.43 | roxville | the executable should be in the eapp editor that opened, so you probably won't have to change that... unless it's mozilla-thunderbird... then you need to change from "Gecko" to "mozilla-thunderbird" |
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| 15:50.34 | roxville | Gwildor, hmmm maybe that's why i increase the size of both quite a bit too... |
| 15:51.02 | Gwildor | hehe, duplicates will do that to ya |
| 15:52.11 | o[WildChild]o | lol |
| 15:52.20 | b1ufox | gtg |
| 15:52.26 | b1ufox | bye everybody |
| 15:52.33 | o[WildChild]o | cya b1ufox |
| 15:52.34 | b1ufox | thanks to all for replying |
| 15:52.36 | roxville | bye b1ufox |
| 15:52.44 | roxville | np :) |
| 15:52.48 | RubenHaugan|Work | Uhmm, is there a way to play the elive-essence stream in windows media player? |
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| 15:53.06 | roxville | yeah, you should be |
| 15:53.09 | o[WildChild]o | ^^ |
| 15:53.10 | RubenHaugan|Work | -e |
| 15:53.11 | roxville | :) |
| 15:53.26 | eggman | just go to the ip and check it out |
| 15:53.32 | o[WildChild]o | it's ok , you're at work ^^ |
| 15:53.38 | roxville | actually, i have no idea... but... i guess it's possible |
| 15:53.58 | RubenHaugan|Work | yep xchatting via rdp |
| 15:54.21 | [WildChild] | huhu |
| 15:54.29 | roxville | :) |
| 15:54.42 | [WildChild] | I'm glad to be back (= |
| 15:55.04 | roxville | =) |
| 15:55.11 | RubenHaugan|Work | I ehink its what artists refer to as "spiritual prostitution":-) |
| 15:55.16 | RubenHaugan|Work | think |
| 15:55.37 | [WildChild] | lol |
| 15:56.08 | CGA | apt x en es shit |
| 15:56.15 | Gwildor | yes, you can play it....jstu need the sream url......well, maybe not with WMP (i dont use it,....) but videolan will play it....so will winamp, real |
| 15:56.53 | roxville | but xmms is a winamp clone... |
| 15:56.59 | [WildChild] | yep |
| 15:57.00 | Gwildor | right..... |
| 15:57.11 | RubenHaugan|Work | yeah, i play it via vlc (zip-packaged version) now, but I carry it on my usbkey, not allowed to install anything on work terminal |
| 15:57.14 | Gwildor | but xmms isnt on winders........so you use winamp |
| 15:57.33 | Gwildor | RubenHaugan|Work, hehe....i am admin and STILL cary VLC on my key |
| 15:57.33 | roxville | exactly |
| 15:57.57 | RubenHaugan|Work | And no more usbkey-use is allowed from 1. april :-( |
| 15:58.03 | Gwildor | actaully, i made my own portabel version........ |
| 15:58.12 | RubenHaugan|Work | I also have mpentoo on that key, gwildor:-) |
| 15:58.15 | [WildChild] | RubenHaugan|Work, why? |
| 15:58.21 | Gwildor | RubenHaugan|Work, can you put the folder in a folder? |
| 15:58.26 | RubenHaugan|Work | security-concern |
| 15:58.33 | [WildChild] | that's lame |
| 15:58.42 | Gwildor | err, local folder.......like /win32 :P |
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| 15:59.28 | RubenHaugan|Work | they log what .exe files are executed on local drives, so now. |
| 15:59.37 | RubenHaugan|Work | now=no |
| 16:01.15 | RubenHaugan|Work | I can boot into mpentoo on the usb, but cant get net-access without logging on to the network |
| 16:02.14 | wasynyt_ | nye to all |
| 16:03.56 | roxville | ok, time to take daughter out for a bit... bbl |
| 16:05.00 | Gwildor | RubenHaugan|Work, hmmm....i have a slight hunch that VLC WILL run from CD |
| 16:06.09 | RubenHaugan|Work | Guess it probably will |
| 16:06.14 | RubenHaugan|Work | I'll try |
| 16:06.41 | Gwildor | :) |
| 16:07.00 | Gwildor | might as well, grab all the codecs and add them too |
| 16:07.07 | Gwildor | mplayer codecs....real..... |
| 16:07.42 | Gwildor | RubenHaugan|Work, where you work? |
| 16:08.48 | Gwildor | RubenHaugan|Work, maybe you van find a way to convince them that USB is essential for you work.... |
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| 16:11.07 | RubenHaugan|Work | I work for www.amitech.dk |
| 16:11.22 | RubenHaugan|Work | Computer producer in Scandinavia |
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| 16:12.09 | eggman | tell them its for security concerns |
| 16:12.11 | eggman | be like |
| 16:12.24 | eggman | i keep my encrpyed finalchial docs on it |
| 16:12.35 | eggman | spelling^^' |
| 16:14.50 | eggman | is there anyway to check a elive cd after youve burned it? |
| 16:15.02 | eggman | to be sure its not media errors ? |
| 16:15.07 | eggman | if my iso is good |
| 16:18.18 | eggman_starwars | nickbeep if anyone answers that |
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| 16:21.03 | Gwildor | starwars... |
| 16:32.15 | RubenHaugan|Work | Gwildor, VLC works fine from CD:-) |
| 16:32.25 | Gwildor | SWEET |
| 16:33.17 | RubenHaugan|Work | ;-D |
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| 16:52.10 | RubenHaugan|Work | Well, I'm heading home. See you later people! |
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| 17:14.12 | Elive_user | hi |
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| 17:30.01 | eggman_ | ok |
| 17:30.15 | eggman_ | im gonna try to install elive now, wish me luck :D |
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| 17:33.04 | ee_lars | hello all |
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| 17:47.16 | [Andur] | ¿is there a public repository with e16.8 packages for Debian? |
| 17:48.29 | Gwildor | umm, "public" idk, but i found some before......i asked google |
| 17:48.30 | blizzard_ | thana u there? |
| 17:48.46 | Gwildor | i saw thatna go away earlier... |
| 17:48.56 | [Andur] | I found e17 ones, but no e16.8 |
| 17:49.06 | [Andur] | 16.8 was released on Feb. 8 |
| 17:49.10 | Gwildor | E16.99999999.999? |
| 17:49.33 | [Andur] | well, yes, e17 CVS snapshots made by shadoi on soulmachine.net |
| 17:49.40 | [Andur] | I've got e17 from there |
| 17:49.48 | [Andur] | but debian's e16 is 16.7 still |
| 17:50.50 | Gwildor | i think Elive's is 16.7 too |
| 17:51.04 | Gwildor | unless he didnt do it for final......but he was telling ppl to downgrade |
| 17:51.54 | [Andur] | so, how does he manage to have both DEs coexisting? |
| 17:52.09 | [Andur] | If I try to install both, they try to write to the same dirs |
| 17:52.33 | [Andur] | even if they are 16.7, I'd want to get a hold of those packages :-) |
| 17:53.34 | roxville | [Andur], elive was running 16.8, but thana reverted back to 16.7 for some reasons |
| 17:53.50 | roxville | there were some problems with 16.8 |
| 17:54.03 | [Andur] | no info on the official site about the exact e16 version, but I read on reviews and such that it's 16.8, yes |
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| 17:54.13 | blizzard_ | wb roxie |
| 17:54.14 | [Andur] | well |
| 17:54.26 | roxville | thx blizzard_ how are you? |
| 17:54.27 | [Andur] | no public repos, then? |
| 17:54.28 | [Andur] | :-/ |
| 17:54.37 | blizzard_ | rox, nice |
| 17:54.38 | blizzard_ | u? |
| 17:54.42 | [Andur] | no one on this channel has both e16 and e17 on Debian? |
| 17:54.59 | roxville | [Andur], i think they have been apt-pinned, but i'm not sure |
| 17:55.05 | blizzard_ | rox: fallback to überlanguage |
| 17:55.18 | blizzard_ | har du nån koll på hur e17 hanterar utlösning? |
| 17:55.20 | blizzard_ | upplösning? |
| 17:55.22 | [Andur] | but with apt-pinning you choose ONE or THE OTHER |
| 17:55.30 | [Andur] | you cannot chose BOTH via apt-pinning |
| 17:55.38 | roxville | i'm sure that as soon as 16.8 gets those issues fixed, thana will go back to it again |
| 17:56.00 | [Andur] | so, no way to get elive's packages? |
| 17:56.23 | [Andur] | if I install Elive, where would I be updating from? |
| 17:56.30 | eggman | shadoi's repos |
| 17:56.35 | eggman | i think |
| 17:56.37 | [Andur] | for e17, yes |
| 17:56.41 | [Andur] | and for e16? |
| 17:57.20 | blizzard_ | brb, p00ping |
| 17:57.45 | roxville | blizzard_, vad e 're om? |
| 17:57.50 | roxville | LOL |
| 17:57.57 | roxville | swedes... |
| 17:58.56 | [Andur] | can someone running elive post /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 17:59.11 | roxville | [Andur], this is for elive users... you can try to come back later on tonight and see if Thana is here... he may be able to give you some better answers |
| 17:59.38 | [Andur] | ok, thank you roxville |
| 18:00.48 | roxville | deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive elive main efl elive |
| 18:00.48 | roxville | #deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive |
| 18:00.48 | roxville | ### Debian repositories |
| 18:00.48 | roxville | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 18:00.48 | roxville | #deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main |
| 18:00.51 | roxville | ### Sources repository of Debian |
| 18:00.52 | roxville | #deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 18:00.54 | roxville | ### Marillat repository, special multimedia |
| 18:00.57 | roxville | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main |
| 18:00.58 | roxville | #Morphix repository ONLY for the liveCD mode, if you need for example the headers of the 2.6.11 kernel |
| 18:01.00 | roxville | ### deb http://www.morphix.org/debian ./ |
| 18:02.16 | eggman | ok i just installed SATA support, how do I test it? |
| 18:02.45 | [Andur] | hdparm has a benchmark option |
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| 18:03.44 | [Andur] | weird, I don't see any special 16.7 packages in there, roxville |
| 18:03.58 | [Andur] | maybe it's the 17 ones that were modified |
| 18:04.13 | roxville | [Andur], Thana packs it for elive |
| 18:04.19 | roxville | yeah |
| 18:04.38 | [Andur] | then that's the difference, he's not using shadoi's packages |
| 18:05.10 | Gwildor | eggman, i dont ahve sata drives.....but maybe try mouinting ur sata drive???? |
| 18:05.27 | eggman | ive mounted my ntfs partionion |
| 18:05.31 | eggman | so i assume it works |
| 18:05.38 | Gwildor | ntfs on sata? |
| 18:06.23 | roxville | a lot of ppl come here to get the sources list... but it's never the same as elive... and that pisses them off a bit... |
| 18:06.24 | eggman | yea whatever XP uses |
| 18:06.24 | eggman | nfts? |
| 18:06.51 | roxville | xp can use both ntfs and 32whatever it is |
| 18:06.54 | eggman | Well i can see all my partions in gParted so i think its working :D |
| 18:07.05 | roxville | awesome! |
| 18:07.08 | eggman | fat32 |
| 18:07.32 | eggman | also some program Windows Xp can read ext3 |
| 18:07.41 | eggman | so im using ext3 |
| 18:07.51 | [Andur] | okay, I'll test my luck with those repos, thank you again roxville |
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| 18:08.57 | eggman | ok installing elive onto 20gb ext3 partion with 1 gb swap |
| 18:09.20 | eggman | any suggestions? |
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| 18:09.47 | roxville | yw [Andur] |
| 18:09.49 | [Andur] | I've got 768M of RAM and never use the swap |
| 18:09.52 | roxville | :) |
| 18:10.10 | eggman | ive only got 512 atm |
| 18:10.36 | roxville | i only have 256MB |
| 18:10.51 | roxville | 768 sounds yummy |
| 18:11.04 | simsalabim | hi |
| 18:11.06 | roxville | hello simsalabim |
| 18:11.10 | [Andur] | most of mine is filled with disk cache and buffers |
| 18:11.13 | simsalabim | hi roxville |
| 18:11.25 | roxville | schamane... |
| 18:11.30 | roxville | how are ya? |
| 18:11.41 | [Andur] | buying RAM is the best decision I made, way better that a new CPU, at least for Linux, performance-wise |
| 18:11.44 | eggman | to not add a /home partionion i click cancle right |
| 18:11.58 | eggman | ?\ |
| 18:12.16 | roxville | ok, i'll see if i can squeeze my budget some more... |
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| 18:12.26 | roxville | eggman, eehhhh |
| 18:12.39 | eggman | nvm i figured it out :D |
| 18:12.51 | roxville | yes, but... you have an extended partition, right? |
| 18:12.58 | eggman | yea |
| 18:13.04 | roxville | or do you know how to add you /home later? |
| 18:13.07 | roxville | ok |
| 18:13.18 | eggman | i have windows EXT3 and Swap |
| 18:13.20 | roxville | coz i got no idea :) |
| 18:13.24 | eggman | thats all i need right? |
| 18:13.48 | roxville | for root, you SHOULD use reiserfs |
| 18:14.05 | roxville | elive LOVES reiserfs |
| 18:14.16 | eggman | yea but then i wont be able to read it from windows |
| 18:14.50 | roxville | in 0.3 i had ext3... was ALWAYS mounted as ext2, for some reason... that may be fixed now, but i ain't taking any more chances |
| 18:14.57 | roxville | ok, ok |
| 18:15.03 | eggman | so |
| 18:15.05 | roxville | well... try it :) |
| 18:15.08 | eggman | fast install or normal install |
| 18:15.21 | simsalabim | but i think too its bad to support only reiserfs in pre version i could chose |
| 18:15.30 | roxville | try normal first... it's probably more stable |
| 18:15.49 | simsalabim | i dont like reiserfs ;) |
| 18:15.50 | eggman | well normal fucked m over pretty hard last time |
| 18:15.52 | eggman | but ok |
| 18:17.17 | roxville | then try fast |
| 18:17.46 | roxville | simsalabim, i thought i didn't like reiserfs too... but i think i was wrong :) |
| 18:17.55 | eggman | ok im goingg fast |
| 18:19.49 | roxville | good luck jim... |
| 18:19.55 | simsalabim | roxville, no you`re right, i had very very bad moments with reiser at work |
| 18:20.16 | simsalabim | ext3 is in my opinion still first choice |
| 18:20.30 | roxville | as usual, should you or anyone in your crew get captured or killed, we will deny any knowledge of you... |
| 18:20.36 | simsalabim | for var, tmp and boot i normally use ext2 |
| 18:20.58 | eggman | weird the installer seems like its doing nothing |
| 18:20.59 | [Andur] | I use ext2 for /boot, reiser3 for / and XFS for /home |
| 18:21.04 | [Andur] | works like a charm |
| 18:21.22 | eggman | i use Fat16 for everything |
| 18:21.29 | roxville | lol |
| 18:21.41 | eggman | just kidding! |
| 18:21.47 | [Andur] | run "top" and "lsof" to see if it's realy doing anything |
| 18:21.58 | [Andur] | FAT16 is too bloated, FAT12 all the way |
| 18:22.01 | eggman | oh wait it seems to be picking up! |
| 18:23.13 | eggman | its at about 20% |
| 18:24.25 | roxville | :) |
| 18:24.28 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:24.32 | roxville | support is important... |
| 18:24.39 | eggman | almost 50% |
| 18:24.57 | [Andur] | go go go |
| 18:24.57 | eggman | :D |
| 18:25.07 | [Andur] | tell us the percentiles too |
| 18:25.18 | eggman | it doesnt say |
| 18:25.20 | eggman | :( |
| 18:25.40 | [Andur] | the paste output of "ps aux" |
| 18:25.49 | [Andur] | and "df -h" |
| 18:27.05 | eggman | well i dont know how to paste using elive terminal :/ |
| 18:27.09 | eggman | df -h |
| 18:27.39 | eggman | 1.26 used |
| 18:27.45 | eggman | that 6% |
| 18:28.40 | roxville | blizzard_, fan vad du skiter länge! |
| 18:29.04 | eggman | about 75% done |
| 18:30.16 | gr8nash2 | morning |
| 18:30.24 | wasynyt | evening |
| 18:30.53 | [Andur] | do you have a 3-button mouse, eggman ? |
| 18:30.58 | eggman | yea |
| 18:31.05 | [Andur] | select the text |
| 18:31.15 | [Andur] | then middle click on the IRC client text field |
| 18:31.23 | eggman | USER PID PU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND |
| 18:31.24 | eggman | root 1 0.0 0.1 1580 516 ? S 07:43 0:00 init [2] |
| 18:31.24 | eggman | root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN 07:43 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0] |
| 18:31.24 | eggman | root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 07:43 0:00 [events/0] |
| 18:31.24 | eggman | root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 07:43 0:00 [khelper] |
| 18:31.24 | eggman | root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 07:43 0:00 [kthread] |
| 18:31.27 | eggman | root 18 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 07:43 0:00 [kacpid] |
| 18:31.29 | eggman | root 153 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 07:43 0:00 [kblockd/0] |
| 18:31.29 | [Andur] | standard X copy-paste, see |
| 18:31.31 | eggman | root 203 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 07:43 0:00 [pdflush] |
| 18:31.34 | eggman | root 205 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 07:43 0:00 [aio/0] |
| 18:31.37 | eggman | root 204 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 07:43 0:01 [kswapd0] |
| 18:31.38 | eggman | root 801 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 07:43 0:00 [kseriod] |
| 18:31.40 | eggman | root 1561 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 07:43 0:00 [khubd] |
| 18:31.43 | eggman | root 1727 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 07:43 0:00 [khpsbpkt] |
| 18:31.44 | [Andur] | lol but no ps -aux xDD |
| 18:31.47 | eggman | root 3489 0.0 0.2 2572 1212 ? Ss 07:43 0:00 /bin/sh /etc/in |
| 18:31.49 | eggman | root 3509 0.0 0.2 2672 1272 ? S 07:43 0:00 sh elive/init.s |
| 18:31.50 | eggman | root 4173 0.0 0.1 1736 700 ? Ss 07:43 0:00 pump -i eth0 |
| 18:31.52 | eggman | root 4249 0.0 0.2 2680 1316 ? S 07:43 0:00 /bin/sh /elive/ |
| 18:31.55 | eggman | root 4250 0.0 0.2 2752 1508 tty2 Ss+ 07:43 0:00 /bin/bash |
| 18:31.57 | eggman | root 4252 0.0 0.2 2680 1316 ? S 07:43 0:00 /bin/sh /elive/ |
| 18:31.59 | eggman | root 4253 0.0 0.2 2752 1508 tty3 Ss+ 07:43 0:00 /bin/bash |
| 18:32.01 | eggman | root 4255 0.0 0.2 2680 1316 ? S 07:43 0:00 /bin/sh /elive/ |
| 18:32.02 | eggman | root 4256 0.0 0.2 2752 1508 tty4 Ss+ 07:43 0:00 /bin/bash |
| 18:32.04 | eggman | root 4258 0.0 0.2 2680 1316 ? S 07:43 0:00 /bin/sh /elive/ |
| 18:32.07 | eggman | root 4259 0.0 0.2 2752 1508 tty5 Ss+ 07:43 0:00 /bin/bash |
| 18:32.08 | eggman | root 4260 0.0 0.2 2680 1316 ? S 07:43 0:00 /bin/sh /elive/ |
| 18:32.11 | eggman | root 4265 0.0 0.2 2752 1508 tty6 Ss+ |
| 18:32.13 | eggman | i see |
| 18:32.17 | eggman | i was trign shift-crtl- v |
| 18:32.19 | eggman | there install is done! |
| 18:32.25 | roxville | eggman, you get kicked for flooding... |
| 18:32.26 | [Andur] | now, very carefully, paste your credit card number |
| 18:32.36 | [Andur] | my fault, my fault :-) |
| 18:32.37 | roxville | better to use pastebin |
| 18:32.53 | roxville | [Andur] now, very carefully, paste your credit card number <- LOL!! |
| 18:33.00 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:33.10 | eggman | it needs a better Sucess screen |
| 18:33.11 | gr8nash | lol |
| 18:33.31 | eggman | it should have fireworks or something cheesy |
| 18:33.40 | [Andur] | your CC# unlocks all the elive 0.4.9-prealpha goodness, you see |
| 18:33.51 | roxville | [Andur], where are you from? |
| 18:33.57 | [Andur] | Spain |
| 18:34.06 | roxville | ok |
| 18:34.10 | eggman | like a cake or big <b>bold</b> Good job! |
| 18:34.12 | [Andur] | why? |
| 18:34.29 | [Andur] | I think a picture of Rasterman would be more suitable :-) |
| 18:34.35 | eggman | kkz |
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| 18:34.47 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:34.47 | roxville | just asking... i love your sense of humor |
| 18:34.56 | eggman | anything is better than that boring hard to read thing |
| 18:35.18 | eggman | ok time to reboot into my new elive! |
| 18:35.27 | roxville | hope so :) |
| 18:35.36 | gr8nash | does enlightenment have an IRC channel? |
| 18:35.43 | roxville | yep |
| 18:35.44 | roxville | #e |
| 18:35.52 | [Andur] | running evas_gl_x11_test |
| 18:36.08 | [Andur] | that test ROCKS, way better than windows' directdraw test |
| 18:36.10 | [Andur] | :-) |
| 18:36.21 | roxville | yeah, it's cool |
| 18:36.27 | simsalabim | would somone be so nice an test something in official 0.4? |
| 18:36.40 | roxville | apt x en es for god's sakes |
| 18:36.47 | gr8nash | simsalabim, what? |
| 18:36.52 | roxville | hmmm |
| 18:37.12 | [Andur] | well, I know elive is a spanish project... the first version of the website was filled with typical Spanish->English grammatical errors :-) |
| 18:37.13 | simsalabim | gr8nash, just type as root zenity --error in an bash in X |
| 18:37.13 | gr8nash | apt /help |
| 18:37.15 | gr8nash | lol |
| 18:37.16 | gr8nash | didnt work |
| 18:37.23 | [Andur] | man apt |
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| 18:37.37 | gr8nash | apt is a bot? |
| 18:37.44 | simsalabim | yes |
| 18:37.52 | gr8nash | simsalabim, what does zenity do? |
| 18:38.04 | simsalabim | just give an msgbox |
| 18:38.09 | simsalabim | its an test |
| 18:38.19 | simsalabim | in my elive installation it doesnt work |
| 18:38.40 | simsalabim | would be nice to know if other ppl got that failure to |
| 18:38.42 | simsalabim | +o |
| 18:38.45 | gr8nash | "an error has occured" |
| 18:38.58 | simsalabim | doesn`t work? |
| 18:39.07 | gr8nash | thats all it says when i type that |
| 18:39.10 | simsalabim | hm, can somebody test this too |
| 18:39.13 | [Andur] | evas_gl_x11_test -> the gradient test doesn't work, the software one succeeds |
| 18:39.19 | gr8nash | a mesage box that says "an error has occured" |
| 18:39.24 | simsalabim | oh |
| 18:39.30 | simsalabim | then it works on your pc |
| 18:39.40 | roxville | gr8nash, zenity are all the elive messages you see... the installer, the popups when you insert a cd and so on |
| 18:39.44 | simsalabim | strange it seems im the only one with this prob |
| 18:39.46 | sinplomo | ee_lars, (x) |
| 18:40.07 | gr8nash | roxville, all .. i love how i get to relearn all this stuff every 6 months |
| 18:40.09 | gr8nash | =) |
| 18:40.24 | roxville | lol |
| 18:40.29 | roxville | what do you mean? |
| 18:40.53 | gr8nash | ohh as i learn linux i make it harder for myself by trying lots of distro's |
| 18:41.07 | simsalabim | gr8nash, i do so too :) |
| 18:41.18 | gr8nash | so fedora on moment.. mandrake.. ubutnu for a few months.. no im on suse for the last 6 months.. and NOW elive =) |
| 18:41.40 | [Andur] | my school had as a summer assignment "try at least 12 linux distros" |
| 18:41.41 | [Andur] | :-) |
| 18:41.49 | simsalabim | hehe |
| 18:42.01 | gr8nash | that will keep you nice and stupid |
| 18:42.08 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:42.15 | gr8nash | once you start to know what your talking about .. time to move on!! heh =) |
| 18:42.21 | gr8nash | thats my motto! |
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| 18:42.47 | eggman | ok that install worked like a charm!\ |
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| 18:43.27 | [Andur] | I may install elive on my POS 128 MB RAM 500 Mhz Athlon |
| 18:43.36 | [Andur] | it's either elive or Linespa |
| 18:43.36 | gr8nash | for instace.. how do you restart X in elive? |
| 18:43.46 | gr8nash | its been buggin me |
| 18:43.53 | [Andur] | probably /etc/init.d/entrance restart |
| 18:44.01 | [Andur] | never tried elive tho :-) |
| 18:44.33 | gr8nash | its good to know howto do whenever i stumble upon one of their "random feature generators!" |
| 18:45.26 | b1ufox | [Andur]: whats the prob with restarting e? |
| 18:45.26 | roxville | eggman, succeeded with his sata install |
| 18:45.57 | b1ufox | %D roxville are you serious |
| 18:46.08 | eggman | ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 18:46.26 | eggman | ^ restart X |
| 18:46.31 | roxville | b1ufox, of course! support is important! |
| 18:46.41 | roxville | eggman, ctrl+alt+end |
| 18:46.48 | roxville | restarts e |
| 18:47.04 | eggman | Now i have to type up my 2 pages of notes i took while doing it |
| 18:47.18 | eggman | of installing and junt |
| 18:47.21 | eggman | junk |
| 18:47.24 | gr8nash | eggman, that works if your mouse is moving |
| 18:47.30 | [Andur] | sweet, elive has on-the-fly desktop res change, like KDE and Gnome |
| 18:47.31 | roxville | eggman, open terminal and type: xpad |
| 18:47.33 | [Andur] | it's buggy tho |
| 18:47.59 | [Andur] | (I just installed elive on my Debian Sid, I'm trying it on vt9) |
| 18:48.06 | eggman | why is my terminal in Wingdings? |
| 18:48.21 | [Andur] | it's not wingdings, it's Klingon |
| 18:48.29 | [Andur] | you see, the elive team are real nerds |
| 18:48.31 | [Andur] | :-) |
| 18:49.04 | roxville | hehe |
| 18:49.26 | gr8nash | hey whats the point of borderless if you cant close the program?? |
| 18:49.28 | eggman | but i can read wingdings! |
| 18:49.45 | gr8nash | i have to "kill" the program after i to eterm with the borderless option? |
| 18:49.54 | roxville | [Andur], it's better to use vhsync... that's what we teach our disciples |
| 18:49.57 | [Andur] | e17 hung... I didn't install elive-etc because maybe that messes my Debian |
| 18:49.59 | eggman | no use alt and right click |
| 18:50.36 | [Andur] | I sometimes set borderless on my KDE |
| 18:50.43 | gr8nash | eggman, thats why i keep you around!! |
| 18:50.44 | [Andur] | to reclaim desktop real space |
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| 18:51.00 | [Andur] | on KDE you access the menu again with ALT+F3 |
| 18:51.15 | [Andur] | anyway, you can always kill an app with "xkill" |
| 18:51.25 | gr8nash | yeah.. not the pretty way =) |
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| 18:54.25 | eggman | ok so i just pluged in my usb key and where does it mount? |
| 18:55.25 | LinuxNIT | are you runnign live or installed? |
| 18:55.33 | [Andur] | argh, e17 segfaulted when running configure on the temperature module |
| 18:55.37 | eggman | installed |
| 18:56.03 | [Andur] | eggman, run dmesg right after you plug it n |
| 18:56.05 | Gwildor | [Andur], i seg E17 configureing anything....but that was on pre |
| 18:56.09 | LinuxNIT | did it not open a file manager when you iserted it? |
| 18:56.31 | [Andur] | well, no, I could configure all modules except the temperature thingy (it was working properly, mind you) |
| 18:56.34 | simsalabim | [Andur], wen configure evolume too |
| 18:56.53 | LinuxNIT | eggman, it should mount at /mnt/sda1 i think |
| 18:56.56 | eggman | it did but it took me to home |
| 18:57.03 | eggman | ill check there |
| 18:57.07 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 18:57.37 | LinuxNIT | eggman, you can do mount -l and it will list all mounted file systems ;) |
| 18:57.42 | eggman | nothng in /mnt/sda1 |
| 18:57.52 | LinuxNIT | try mount -l |
| 18:57.52 | eggman | welll i cant read my terminal |
| 18:58.00 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 18:58.02 | LinuxNIT | why not |
| 18:58.08 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 18:58.10 | eggman | conlan@elive[~]$ mount -l |
| 18:58.10 | eggman | /dev/sda2 on / type reiserfs (rw) |
| 18:58.10 | eggman | proc on /proc type proc (rw) |
| 18:58.10 | eggman | sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) |
| 18:58.10 | eggman | devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) |
| 18:58.11 | eggman | tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) |
| 18:58.13 | eggman | usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) |
| 18:58.15 | eggman | tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755) |
| 18:58.17 | eggman | ther it is |
| 18:58.38 | LinuxNIT | that looks odd |
| 18:58.57 | LinuxNIT | oh so elive is installed on sda2? |
| 18:59.09 | eggman | yea |
| 18:59.15 | eggman | sda1 is windows |
| 18:59.36 | LinuxNIT | what happened to hda? |
| 18:59.51 | eggman | its a sata dick |
| 19:00.01 | eggman | disk |
| 19:00.01 | eggman | XD |
| 19:00.05 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 19:00.10 | LinuxNIT | maybe check /proc/bus/usb ? |
| 19:00.11 | [Andur] | ugh, the "run command" app hangs e17 too :-/ |
| 19:00.43 | eggman | http://www2.filehost.to/files/2006-02-22_03/200020_Untitled.png thats how my terminal looks |
| 19:01.05 | [Andur] | <eggman> its a sata dick <- that should go to bash.org IMO |
| 19:01.19 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 19:01.34 | eggman | submit it then\ |
| 19:01.37 | LinuxNIT | wtf is up with your terminal |
| 19:01.40 | [Andur] | just run dmesg after you plug your di... your pendrive in |
| 19:01.42 | LinuxNIT | wierd |
| 19:02.30 | eggman | conlan@elive[~]$ dmesg |
| 19:02.30 | eggman | IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. |
| 19:02.30 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LUBA] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 *10 11 12 14 15) |
| 19:02.30 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LUBB] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. |
| 19:02.30 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LMAC] (IRQs *3 4 5 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) |
| 19:02.33 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LACI] (IRQs 3 4 *5 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) |
| 19:02.35 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LMCI] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. |
| 19:02.37 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LSMB] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 10 11 *12 14 15) |
| 19:02.39 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LUB2] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) |
| 19:02.41 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LIDE] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. |
| 19:02.42 | [WildChild]`Away | pastebin! |
| 19:02.43 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LSID] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 *10 11 12 14 15) |
| 19:02.45 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LFID] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) |
| 19:02.47 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LPCA] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. |
| 19:02.49 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC1] (IRQs *16), disabled. |
| 19:02.51 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC2] (IRQs *17), disabled. |
| 19:02.53 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC3] (IRQs *18), disabled. |
| 19:02.55 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC4] (IRQs *19), disabled. |
| 19:02.59 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC5] (IRQs *16), disabled. |
| 19:03.03 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCF] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. |
| 19:03.05 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCG] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. |
| 19:03.07 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCH] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. |
| 19:03.09 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCJ] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. |
| 19:03.11 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCK] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. |
| 19:03.13 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCS] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. |
| 19:03.15 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCL] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. |
| 19:03.17 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCZ] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. |
| 19:03.19 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APSI] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. |
| 19:03.21 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APSJ] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. |
| 19:03.22 | LinuxNIT | eggman, next time use pastebin.com :) |
| 19:03.23 | eggman | ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCP] (IRQs 20 21 22 23) *0, disabled. |
| 19:03.25 | eggman | Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay |
| 19:03.27 | eggman | pnp: PnP ACPI init |
| 19:03.29 | eggman | pnp: PnP ACPI: found 12 devices |
| 19:03.33 | eggman | PnPBIOS: Disabled by ACPI PNP |
| 19:03.35 | eggman | PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing |
| 19:03.37 | eggman | PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq". If it helps, p |
| 19:03.39 | eggman | link me! |
| 19:04.00 | eggman | http://pastebin.com/567201 |
| 19:04.02 | LinuxNIT | www.pastebin.com |
| 19:04.07 | eggman | but im booting backto windows |
| 19:04.09 | [WildChild]`Away | lol |
| 19:04.13 | LinuxNIT | wait |
| 19:04.18 | eggman | ok |
| 19:04.26 | LinuxNIT | do fdisk -l as root |
| 19:04.49 | [Andur] | dmesg | tail should be enough anyway |
| 19:05.12 | LinuxNIT | ah its sdb :) |
| 19:05.41 | [Andur] | I have a SATA disk too, and yes, it is /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1 |
| 19:05.56 | [Andur] | sda1 and 2 is the SATA drive, of course |
| 19:06.21 | eggman | http://pastebin.com/567205 |
| 19:06.45 | LinuxNIT | [Andur], did you have to edit fstab for mount usb drive? |
| 19:06.47 | eggman | wait goto line 294 |
| 19:06.50 | eggman | for that |
| 19:07.16 | LinuxNIT | so add /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1 vfat auto,users,exec 0 0 to fstab |
| 19:07.27 | [Andur] | I did, but only because my sister's pendrive got mixed with mine, and KDE got confused |
| 19:07.27 | roxville | SATA dick.... hehehe |
| 19:07.32 | LinuxNIT | then do mkdir /mnt/sdb1 |
| 19:07.33 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 19:07.39 | eggman | http://pastebin.com/567208 |
| 19:07.44 | LinuxNIT | then mount /mnt/sdb1 |
| 19:08.00 | [Andur] | SATA dicks are for weenies, mine is SCSI! |
| 19:08.04 | LinuxNIT | if anyone else has beter way jump in but that should work |
| 19:08.25 | roxville | is the SATA dick a HARD SATA dick... or is it usb? |
| 19:08.25 | eggman | root@elive[/home/conlan]# mkdir /mnt/sdb1 |
| 19:08.26 | eggman | root@elive[/home/conlan]# mount /mnt/sdb1 |
| 19:08.26 | eggman | mount: can't find /mnt/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
| 19:08.26 | eggman | root@elive[/home/conlan]# |
| 19:08.27 | LinuxNIT | get that eggman ? |
| 19:08.33 | [Andur] | I wouldn't put "auto" as a flag for the pendrive |
| 19:08.39 | LinuxNIT | so add /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1 vfat auto,users,exec 0 0 to fstab |
| 19:08.40 | [Andur] | I would put "noauto", in fact |
| 19:08.48 | LinuxNIT | you missed hat step :) |
| 19:08.53 | LinuxNIT | true |
| 19:08.57 | LinuxNIT | so add /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1 vfat noauto,users,exec 0 0 to fstab |
| 19:09.08 | LinuxNIT | fstab is /etc/fstab :) |
| 19:09.22 | [Andur] | try /dev/sdb instead of /dev/sdb1 |
| 19:09.33 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 19:09.40 | [Andur] | both could work |
| 19:10.17 | eggman | ok |
| 19:11.24 | eggman | printk: 17 messages suppressed. |
| 19:11.24 | eggman | root@elive[/home/conlan]# fdisk -l |
| 19:11.25 | eggman | root@elive[/home/conlan]# mkdir /mnt/sdb1 |
| 19:11.25 | eggman | root@elive[/home/conlan]# mount /mnt/sdb1 |
| 19:11.25 | eggman | mount: can't find /mnt/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
| 19:11.25 | eggman | root@elive[/home/conlan]# scite |
| 19:11.26 | [Andur] | ah, I see dmesg now, it's sdb1, yes |
| 19:11.27 | eggman | (scite:10250): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not find the icon 'gnome-fs-home'. The 'hicolor' theme |
| 19:11.29 | eggman | was not found either, perhaps you need to install it. |
| 19:11.31 | eggman | You can get a copy from: |
| 19:11.35 | eggman | http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/releases |
| 19:11.37 | eggman | root@elive[/home/conlan]# mkdir /mnt/sdb1 |
| 19:11.39 | eggman | mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/sdb1': File exists |
| 19:11.41 | eggman | root@elive[/home/conlan]# mount /mnt/sdb1 |
| 19:11.43 | eggman | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, |
| 19:11.45 | eggman | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.47 | eggman | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.49 | eggman | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.51 | eggman | root@elive[/home/conlan]# mount /mnt/sdb1 |
| 19:11.51 | [Andur] | eggman, you have to "nano /etc/fstab" first |
| 19:11.53 | eggman | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, |
| 19:11.55 | eggman | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.59 | eggman | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.01 | eggman | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.04 | simsalabim | type mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1 |
| 19:12.07 | eggman_away | well i have to go |
| 19:12.09 | eggman_away | bye |
| 19:12.11 | eggman_away | i did |
| 19:12.36 | LinuxNIT | is the usb dvice fat32? |
| 19:12.45 | [Andur] | FAT16, I think |
| 19:12.50 | simsalabim | type mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1 |
| 19:13.05 | [Andur] | it's already vfat in fstab |
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| 19:13.32 | simsalabim | before i solve problems with fstab, i try manually |
| 19:13.32 | LinuxNIT | yeah i was checking in case he had formated it to somthing other that fat** |
| 19:13.44 | simsalabim | if that works i add a line in fstab |
| 19:13.49 | LinuxNIT | ah well hes gone |
| 19:14.13 | [Andur] | elive is downloading at 27 KB/s only :-/ |
| 19:15.00 | [Andur] | well cya |
| 19:15.03 | [Andur] | I'm off too |
| 19:18.18 | gr8nash | share ratio: 6.9 |
| 19:18.46 | wasynyt | share ration : 11.4 |
| 19:19.13 | wasynyt | :) |
| 19:19.17 | LinuxNIT | i deleted the iso by accident :( |
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| 19:19.36 | wasynyt | no reinstals for you |
| 19:19.44 | LinuxNIT | i have a cd :) |
| 19:19.46 | LinuxNIT | just no iso |
| 19:19.51 | wasynyt | ok.. |
| 19:20.00 | gr8nash | use said CD to create ISO?? |
| 19:20.16 | LinuxNIT | i could now couldnt i hmmm |
| 19:20.25 | LinuxNIT | mybe ill share while im at school |
| 19:20.30 | gr8nash | naw.. i dont think it matters.. with over a 100 seeders |
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| 19:20.34 | LinuxNIT | (home has a slow connection) |
| 19:20.42 | LinuxNIT | ah ok nm then |
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| 19:24.05 | gr8nash | i just cant seem to get used to gnome |
| 19:24.28 | wasynyt | i have never used gnome :D |
| 19:24.30 | LinuxNIT | really the only thing i liked about kde was the smb:/ protocall in konqeror |
| 19:24.56 | wasynyt | konqueror is all in one browser... has its pros & cons |
| 19:24.57 | gr8nash | i _REALLY_ like suse's Search the startbar feature |
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| 19:25.10 | LinuxNIT | yeah i just liked the smb thing it was nice |
| 19:25.11 | gr8nash | that is the slickest/simplest feature i have seen in a long time |
| 19:25.15 | wasynyt | i have suse 9.3 so no searching |
| 19:25.27 | wasynyt | but agree |
| 19:25.44 | gr8nash | i use 10.0 eval in alot of computers |
| 19:25.59 | gr8nash | samba sucks in suse 10.0 |
| 19:26.02 | gr8nash | something isnt right with it |
| 19:26.10 | LinuxNIT | i mead do smb:/ and it would list every work group :) |
| 19:26.21 | M|[ke | Hello! |
| 19:26.24 | wasynyt | samba sucks in 9.3 too |
| 19:26.27 | wasynyt | hello! |
| 19:26.29 | wasynyt | :D |
| 19:26.33 | LinuxNIT | lol do it at school and get hundreds of workgroups |
| 19:26.33 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 19:26.38 | LinuxNIT | howdy M|[ke |
| 19:26.44 | M|[ke | just fired up the latest Elive :D |
| 19:26.48 | wasynyt | that would be nice |
| 19:26.49 | LinuxNIT | nice aye |
| 19:26.57 | M|[ke | its awesome :D |
| 19:27.04 | gr8nash | i cant say i like the default e theme |
| 19:27.10 | gr8nash | but i love the optional ones!!! |
| 19:27.16 | M|[ke | i see |
| 19:27.17 | wasynyt | if only my dvd drive would work in it :( |
| 19:27.26 | gr8nash | the default is alright though.. much better then anything else out there |
| 19:27.38 | wasynyt | simple white is great |
| 19:27.46 | M|[ke | do anyone know if theres possible to install it to hdd? |
| 19:27.47 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, just a idea try pcimodules and compare the out put to lsmod |
| 19:27.56 | LinuxNIT | yeah there is |
| 19:28.14 | M|[ke | ooh there is :P |
| 19:28.20 | LinuxNIT | M|[ke, at the bottom there is a icon that looks like a HD with lights |
| 19:28.21 | wasynyt | well cant do it right now.. have to wait till tomorrow |
| 19:28.23 | LinuxNIT | thats the installer |
| 19:28.52 | M|[ke | LinuxNIT, ive tried that one, but it cant find any partitions |
| 19:28.59 | wasynyt | M|[ke, you have sata hdd |
| 19:29.09 | M|[ke | can it be becasue of my sata ? |
| 19:29.12 | M|[ke | haha ooh sorry |
| 19:29.18 | M|[ke | yeah i have |
| 19:29.38 | M|[ke | dooh! ok :) |
| 19:29.44 | wasynyt | then you have to load sata modules to be able to install it |
| 19:29.51 | M|[ke | ahaa i see |
| 19:30.00 | M|[ke | whats the module named? |
| 19:30.41 | wasynyt | in e16 you have small script to browse and install modules.. depends on your hardware |
| 19:30.57 | M|[ke | ahaa i see |
| 19:31.25 | M|[ke | this irc thing was really nifty :D |
| 19:31.37 | LinuxNIT | its a life saver :) |
| 19:31.44 | M|[ke | Haha :D |
| 19:32.29 | wasynyt | :D |
| 19:32.48 | roxville | bbiab |
| 19:32.56 | gr8nash | O/---< DANCE! |
| 19:33.05 | gr8nash | O\---< |
| 19:33.13 | gr8nash | crap lol cant type fast enought! |
| 19:33.42 | wasynyt | you have to train more |
| 19:33.44 | wasynyt | ;) |
| 19:33.58 | M|[ke | "SATA is still not supported in this release directly, but you can try to install the package "elive-0.4-sata" before installing Elive" it says on the homepage of elive, but wheres that located? |
| 19:34.13 | wasynyt | ont mind that.. |
| 19:34.16 | wasynyt | *dont |
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| 19:34.29 | M|[ke | not? |
| 19:34.35 | gr8nash | apt |
| 19:34.37 | gr8nash | probley |
| 19:34.54 | gr8nash | apt-cache search sata |
| 19:35.00 | wasynyt | you can enable sata without installing anything from apt-get |
| 19:35.12 | M|[ke | ahh i see, i havent used that before :) im i former gentoo user :P |
| 19:35.17 | wasynyt | i konw i did |
| 19:35.36 | M|[ke | ok cool |
| 19:35.44 | gr8nash | M|[ke, build your fun peice by peice! |
| 19:35.59 | M|[ke | yeah :P |
| 19:36.26 | wasynyt | isnt there enlightenment for gentoo packages? |
| 19:36.44 | gr8nash | i like the suse silver platter/kitchen sink mentality! |
| 19:37.02 | gr8nash | install all 8 DVD's and youll be good untill the updates come out |
| 19:37.04 | wasynyt | everything or nothing! ;P |
| 19:37.20 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 19:37.27 | wasynyt | soon we have 3 dvd distros ;D |
| 19:37.42 | M|[ke | i guess it is, but strangely i havent got it to work :D |
| 19:37.46 | gr8nash | im ok with that.. as long as the menu's are well layed out |
| 19:38.02 | wasynyt | or menus have search tool |
| 19:38.16 | wasynyt | no need to know where stuff is |
| 19:38.39 | gr8nash | LinuxNIT, yeah that does kinda suck.. but i hate worse.. installing from source a text editor,because some bonehead thought it would bloat the OS =) |
| 19:38.57 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 19:39.15 | LinuxNIT | what distro was that? |
| 19:39.36 | gr8nash | hypothetical only =) |
| 19:39.48 | gr8nash | feels like it on many distro..but never a text editor |
| 19:39.48 | M|[ke | Haha :P |
| 19:39.52 | wasynyt | i think i could find one if i tried |
| 19:40.40 | gr8nash | ok example.. even my beloved suse doesnt install "updatedb" by defualt?!?!? common your huge already! |
| 19:40.48 | gr8nash | locate is a essential program |
| 19:41.06 | M|[ke | hmmm that apt-cache search command didnt find any sata modules |
| 19:41.16 | LinuxNIT | lol well from the distros ive installed get too many programs except when i installed gentoo and netinstalled debian base only then built from htat and elive |
| 19:41.18 | gr8nash | M|[ke, first do "apt-get update" |
| 19:41.19 | M|[ke | locate is nice :D |
| 19:41.21 | wasynyt | well use the tool in e16 |
| 19:41.23 | M|[ke | ahaa :P |
| 19:41.38 | M|[ke | as i said apt IS new for me :D |
| 19:41.54 | LinuxNIT | M|[ke, youll grow to love it ;) |
| 19:42.03 | gr8nash | M|[ke, wasynyt is right.. im just schooling you in the debian apt |
| 19:42.28 | wasynyt | :D |
| 19:42.38 | LinuxNIT | M|[ke, synaptic is a gui for apt |
| 19:43.25 | M|[ke | LinuxNIT, maybe! i tried it once in hmmm...Yoper! thats the dist, Yoper. but it didnt work well for me there ;) |
| 19:43.28 | wasynyt | when you get used to apt-get you cant use windows anymore.. you will keep asking why am i searching programs from google |
| 19:43.54 | LinuxNIT | hehehe |
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| 19:44.16 | LinuxNIT | M|[ke, i dunno ive never had problems with symaptic... but ive never used Ypoer either :) |
| 19:44.27 | LinuxNIT | *Yoper |
| 19:44.57 | wasynyt | what kind of distro is it.. mini or HUGE |
| 19:45.08 | M|[ke | LinuxNIT, Haha i see :P well u should try it, its a fast and responsive distro |
| 19:45.30 | LinuxNIT | hmm i might |
| 19:45.36 | LinuxNIT | sounds tempting |
| 19:45.38 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 19:45.46 | LinuxNIT | man i try too many distros lol |
| 19:45.57 | M|[ke | haha :P |
| 19:45.59 | gr8nash | i like elive because its actually has a difference |
| 19:46.00 | LinuxNIT | probably |
| 19:46.11 | M|[ke | i love testing new distros :P |
| 19:46.19 | gr8nash | how many clone debian distros do we need? |
| 19:46.32 | wasynyt | at least one million ;P |
| 19:46.39 | gr8nash | lol were well on our way |
| 19:47.17 | M|[ke | but the thing i like most with linux, is that whatever distro i try, i can always implement functions from other distros to it :P thats nice :D |
| 19:47.21 | LinuxNIT | im thinking of starting one |
| 19:47.28 | LinuxNIT | just too add to the list |
| 19:47.49 | LinuxNIT | think ill call it JAD (just another distro) |
| 19:47.55 | LinuxNIT | yeah JAD linux |
| 19:47.58 | wasynyt | li think that best in linux is that you can do anything you want |
| 19:48.11 | wasynyt | *i |
| 19:48.24 | M|[ke | is it ok for u guys if output what apt-cache search command said? |
| 19:48.36 | wasynyt | hmm.. |
| 19:48.41 | wasynyt | i wont mind |
| 19:48.45 | LinuxNIT | ill die |
| 19:48.49 | LinuxNIT | jk |
| 19:48.53 | LinuxNIT | i dont mind |
| 19:48.54 | M|[ke | haha |
| 19:49.15 | M|[ke | or am i gonna be kicked of flooding? :P |
| 19:49.22 | LinuxNIT | apt dosent kikc for pasting does he |
| 19:49.23 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 19:49.27 | wasynyt | dunno.. i havent tried |
| 19:49.36 | M|[ke | ok |
| 19:49.38 | LinuxNIT | you could use pastebin.com to be safe :) |
| 19:49.47 | M|[ke | Hahahahhah :D |
| 19:50.05 | M|[ke | well ill guess i play on the safe side and just write it |
| 19:50.08 | LinuxNIT | well eggman psasted like 20 lines earlier but apt wasnt here then |
| 19:50.22 | M|[ke | ok haha :P |
| 19:50.41 | LinuxNIT | i dont care i just dont want ya to get kicked ;) |
| 19:51.01 | wasynyt | same.. |
| 19:51.12 | M|[ke | it outputted: blktool, xevil, kernel-patch-2.4-fasttraks150 |
| 19:51.33 | M|[ke | no sata module? |
| 19:51.39 | wasynyt | i think not |
| 19:51.45 | M|[ke | hmm ok |
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| 19:52.20 | M|[ke | anyone using satanv module? |
| 19:52.23 | wasynyt | i thin kit is not there because it is allready installed-- |
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| 19:52.26 | wasynyt | i am |
| 19:52.32 | wasynyt | in my other comp |
| 19:52.39 | M|[ke | ok :P |
| 19:52.51 | M|[ke | thats the module i need |
| 19:53.07 | M|[ke | can i get it with apt somehow? |
| 19:53.09 | wasynyt | thats th emodule you find in that tool in e16 |
| 19:53.25 | RubenHaugan | Hi! |
| 19:53.27 | LinuxNIT | sata_nv? |
| 19:53.33 | M|[ke | ooohh :D |
| 19:53.37 | wasynyt | something like that yse |
| 19:53.38 | wasynyt | yes |
| 19:53.39 | LinuxNIT | try modprobe -l | grep sata |
| 19:53.42 | M|[ke | LinuxNIT, exactly! :D |
| 19:53.53 | LinuxNIT | that will show all sata modules i think |
| 19:53.54 | M|[ke | wiihoo :P |
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| 19:54.13 | M|[ke | a simple "modprobe sata_nv" did the trick :D |
| 19:54.18 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 19:54.21 | wasynyt | good for you |
| 19:54.22 | M|[ke | Thanks LinuxNIT :P |
| 19:54.25 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 19:54.27 | LinuxNIT | np |
| 19:54.28 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 19:54.31 | M|[ke | hah :P |
| 19:55.35 | M|[ke | do elive support reiserfs? |
| 19:55.45 | wasynyt | yes.. it recomended |
| 19:55.46 | wasynyt | :D |
| 19:55.48 | LinuxNIT | thats what it installs on |
| 19:55.50 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 19:55.55 | M|[ke | great :D |
| 19:57.48 | RubenHaugan | Does anyone know how to install the exquisite-icons package for e17 |
| 19:57.51 | RubenHaugan | ? |
| 19:58.05 | wasynyt | apt-get? |
| 19:58.26 | LinuxNIT | icons-exquisite |
| 19:58.31 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 19:58.38 | LinuxNIT | apt-get install icons-exquisite |
| 19:58.41 | RubenHaugan | sudo apt-get install icons-exquisite |
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| 19:58.49 | LinuxNIT | or sudo |
| 19:58.50 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 19:59.03 | RubenHaugan | lol |
| 19:59.08 | wasynyt | i have |
| 19:59.10 | wasynyt | :D |
| 19:59.10 | RubenHaugan | done:-) Works fine! |
| 20:00.07 | Drex99 | how can I browse my network from Elive? |
| 20:00.10 | *** join/#elive Elive_user58 (n=Elive_us@84.13.242.70) |
| 20:00.17 | RubenHaugan | through samba |
| 20:00.25 | Drex99 | wher's that? |
| 20:00.35 | M|[ke | for a /home partition, Elive recommends using XFS. Any thoughts about it? i have never used XFS before |
| 20:00.41 | wasynyt | i think elive as an app that can do the trick |
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| 20:01.00 | wasynyt | dunno.. try it :) |
| 20:01.18 | Drex99 | Hi Thana |
| 20:01.25 | M|[ke | is it good for larger partitions? or should i stick with reiser on that too? |
| 20:01.52 | wasynyt | i used reiser for /home too |
| 20:01.52 | M|[ke | deal :P |
| 20:01.56 | tuxit | reiser all the way ;) |
| 20:02.10 | Thanatermesis | hello all |
| 20:02.17 | wasynyt | hello |
| 20:02.18 | LinuxNIT | hello Thanatermesis |
| 20:02.21 | tuxit | hey thana |
| 20:02.38 | Drex99 | Hi Thana, I'm using a SB Live now, and works great. |
| 20:02.52 | Thanatermesis | nice :) |
| 20:03.06 | Thanatermesis | any volonteer for ATI (fglrx) with 3d support ? :) |
| 20:03.06 | M|[ke | yeah, i like reiser better, eventhough i havent tried XFS :D |
| 20:03.11 | Drex99 | how can I brouse my home network fron elive? |
| 20:03.39 | Drex99 | I have Nvidia ti200 |
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| 20:04.03 | wasynyt | sorry no ati graphic cards |
| 20:04.15 | LinuxNIT | heh restartd e17 and lost xchat :) |
| 20:04.21 | M|[ke | does the installed hdd version differ from the cd-version? |
| 20:04.22 | LinuxNIT | oops |
| 20:04.29 | LinuxNIT | uses dif kernel |
| 20:04.44 | *** mode/#elive [-o Thanatermesis] by Thanatermesis |
| 20:04.47 | LinuxNIT | hdd uses 2.6.12 instead of 2.6.11 |
| 20:04.52 | Thanatermesis | no any person with a ATI card ? |
| 20:05.14 | LinuxNIT | other than that i dont know. but Thanatermesis would ;) |
| 20:05.31 | Drex99 | I can get one. |
| 20:06.05 | Thanatermesis | i have just builded the new update of ATI for give the support on the installed system... and soon for the liveCD |
| 20:06.09 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, my personal experinces with ATI and linux has not been good, ive been able to get at picture, but no 3D-acceleration |
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| 20:06.41 | Thanatermesis | M|[ke if you have a ATI.. try it on Elive (with the upgrade), maybe you have more lucky now :) |
| 20:08.06 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, ok ill try that :P |
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| 20:08.25 | RubenHaugan | Thanatermesis, one question I've been dying to get answered... How do I disable the system-tray in engage (e16) |
| 20:08.40 | Drex99 | Thana , How can I browse my Hone network I'm on? |
| 20:09.08 | Thanatermesis | RubenHaugan humm.. you speak about the e16 systray or the engage systray ? |
| 20:09.14 | M|[ke | i have a nvidia card on this computer, but my moms has an ati innit |
| 20:09.23 | Thanatermesis | Drex99 windows ? |
| 20:09.24 | M|[ke | :D |
| 20:09.36 | Drex99 | Yes windows. |
| 20:09.38 | RubenHaugan | engage systray. I guess its loaded when I log in to e16 |
| 20:09.39 | Drex99 | xp |
| 20:09.59 | Thanatermesis | M|[ke try the eliveCD then ;) but not forget to upgrade the parts of ati (soon i publish the bug reported on the Elive page and how to upgrade) |
| 20:10.00 | RubenHaugan | I doesn't start if I execute "engage -t 0" manually |
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| 20:10.14 | Thanatermesis | Drex99 search on the menus of networks.. ."linnearborhood" or similar |
| 20:10.29 | M|[ke | installation question again: "normal mode install or the faster installation but not very tested" ? |
| 20:10.30 | RubenHaugan | But I dont know what file executes engage at logon |
| 20:10.41 | M|[ke | the normal mode was really slow |
| 20:10.42 | Drex99 | Oh right. Ok Thanks Thana |
| 20:11.06 | M|[ke | any disadvantages? |
| 20:11.12 | Thanatermesis | RubenHaugan you have a systray on e16, and aparently you can't disable it (i don't have found), and you have a systray on engage... for engage you just need to change the options of engage... but not is hard to found this options of engage... i make soon a new feature on "engage-manager" for this... from elpanel |
| 20:12.24 | RubenHaugan | Hehe, I remember you made the last upgrade to engage-manager (partly) because of me:-) I requested the possibility to rearrange and add icons:-p |
| 20:12.38 | RubenHaugan | That was GREAT by the way! |
| 20:12.58 | Thanatermesis | M|[ke try the fast mode, teorically works good... but if you look any diference on the system, any bad thing using the fast mode... please inform, because i want to use this way for the installed system by default on the next release |
| 20:13.42 | Thanatermesis | thanks RubenHaugan :) and yes.. i want to make it better if is posible :) |
| 20:13.44 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, Ok ill do that :P im currently testing the fast mode, no probs yet :P |
| 20:14.06 | Thanatermesis | perfect M|[ke :) |
| 20:14.14 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, are u somewhat involved with this great distro? :) |
| 20:14.29 | LinuxNIT | heheeh he is THE developer |
| 20:14.38 | Drex99 | will this support my MSI TV@anwhere card? |
| 20:14.39 | M|[ke | oooh thats cool :D |
| 20:14.44 | tuxit | lol he is the projectleader of this distro |
| 20:15.00 | RubenHaugan | On edevelop.org it says somewhere that you can edit engage (e16) by right-clicking on engage, but I can't get any options up |
| 20:15.05 | LinuxNIT | hes the man |
| 20:15.11 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 20:15.20 | M|[ke | well i guess i have do thank u then! |
| 20:16.06 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, it has the greatest looking desktop ive seen so far in the wonderful world of linux :P |
| 20:16.13 | Thanatermesis | yes RubenHaugan, i have disabled this thing because im not sure to works really good.. and this version of engage is a little diferent than the original |
| 20:16.16 | Drex99 | I have to go out for a few hours. Later all. |
| 20:16.37 | Thanatermesis | M|[ke thanks.. and just has be born ;) |
| 20:16.41 | LinuxNIT | later |
| 20:17.59 | M|[ke | yeah, how long has it been out? |
| 20:18.03 | Pntbllfrk | What version is eLive? |
| 20:18.04 | Pntbllfrk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:18.04 | Pntbllfrk | Debian Testing (Etch) |
| 20:18.04 | Pntbllfrk | Debian 3.1 (Sarge) |
| 20:18.04 | Pntbllfrk | Debian 3.0 (Woody) |
| 20:18.05 | Pntbllfrk | Debian 2.2 (Potato) |
| 20:18.16 | Gwildor | etch |
| 20:18.17 | LinuxNIT | etch |
| 20:18.20 | Pntbllfrk | ok thanks |
| 20:18.22 | Gwildor | hehe, i win :P |
| 20:18.45 | LinuxNIT | no i win |
| 20:18.52 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, you still gonna release a new 0.4? |
| 20:18.52 | LinuxNIT | *pulp |
| 20:18.57 | LinuxNIT | jk man |
| 20:19.43 | wasynyt | k? |
| 20:20.01 | Gwildor | y? |
| 20:20.06 | Gwildor | warmins sensation |
| 20:20.08 | Gwildor | warming |
| 20:20.16 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:20.27 | RubenHaugan | lol |
| 20:20.32 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 20:20.49 | Gwildor | *UUuggghhh |
| 20:20.55 | LinuxNIT | mwahahahahah |
| 20:20.56 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, i just came to the step where to select where to install GRUB, and i kinda missed one option there, "install to fd0" is that something thats gonna be implemented later, or if i select option nr 3, can i install grub later and config it to fd0? |
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| 20:21.07 | Thanatermesis | Pntbllfrk cat /etc/elive-version |
| 20:21.28 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, dont take that as an offend or something, just a suggestion! |
| 20:21.28 | Thanatermesis | Gwildor yes... but waiting a little of time |
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| 20:21.41 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, yes, take a break, you ahve been working ahrd :) |
| 20:21.42 | RubenHaugan | e17 mount-module breaks *every* time :-/ |
| 20:21.51 | M|[ke | or my own thought about it |
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| 20:22.40 | Thanatermesis | M|[ke you have the option to install in a floppy ? (fd0) and it works ? |
| 20:22.47 | Thanatermesis | i have added it but im not have tested |
| 20:23.24 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, no i havent got that option :P |
| 20:23.33 | Thanatermesis | ah.. suggestion |
| 20:23.55 | Thanatermesis | M|[ke do you want to test it now ? |
| 20:24.08 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, but it would have been nice if that option was avalible, due to my setup :P |
| 20:24.22 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, yeah that would be great! :P |
| 20:24.26 | Thanatermesis | maybe i add this option.. if any person test me it |
| 20:24.41 | Thanatermesis | ok.. give me a second... |
| 20:24.48 | Thanatermesis | no install grub in any thing then M|[ke |
| 20:24.54 | Thanatermesis | just finish the install without install grub |
| 20:25.00 | M|[ke | ok :P |
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| 20:25.59 | Thanatermesis | the installation is finished M|[ke ? what is the partition where you have installed elive ? |
| 20:26.31 | M|[ke | and there the installation has finished! :D |
| 20:26.43 | M|[ke | Yeah :P |
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| 20:27.01 | M|[ke | its on my /dev/sda12 |
| 20:27.06 | Thanatermesis | its finished ? |
| 20:27.10 | M|[ke | yes |
| 20:27.14 | Thanatermesis | ok, try this |
| 20:27.35 | Thanatermesis | with root: umount /mnt/target && mount -o dev /dev/sda12 /mnt/target |
| 20:27.42 | M|[ke | ok :D |
| 20:28.13 | Thanatermesis | and after: grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/target /dev/fd0 |
| 20:28.23 | M|[ke | hmm its says: umount: /mnt/target: not mounted |
| 20:28.23 | Thanatermesis | look if it writes in your floppy... |
| 20:28.33 | Thanatermesis | ok, then this: |
| 20:28.39 | Thanatermesis | with root: mount -o dev /dev/sda12 /mnt/target |
| 20:28.49 | Thanatermesis | and after: grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/target /dev/fd0 |
| 20:28.59 | M|[ke | ahhh there it mounted my hdd :P |
| 20:29.38 | RubenHaugan | Hmmm, is it possible to make elive boot from a 1gb usb-key by the way, in live-cd mode? |
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| 20:30.11 | Thanatermesis | RubenHaugan not really... posible is.. but if you are a hacker... :) , this thing not is really suported, i think to for 0.5 yes |
| 20:31.06 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, i think it worked! |
| 20:31.19 | RubenHaugan | waiting! |
| 20:32.04 | M|[ke | im gonna give it a try booting the installed Elive now |
| 20:32.09 | M|[ke | cya later |
| 20:32.40 | Schamane__ | hi Thanatermesis |
| 20:32.47 | Thanatermesis | ok M|[ke, try it and maintain me informed ;) |
| 20:32.50 | Thanatermesis | hi Schamane__ |
| 20:33.09 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, Sure will! Thank's Thanatermesis :) |
| 20:33.13 | M|[ke | brb |
| 20:33.28 | Schamane__ | you wanna know the result after new installation. The problem with zenity still exists |
| 20:34.25 | RubenHaugan | But Thanathermesis, what file tells engage to start when I log in to e16? |
| 20:35.39 | Thanatermesis | what problem Schamane__ ? |
| 20:36.09 | Schamane__ | the use of zenity as root |
| 20:36.11 | Thanatermesis | RubenHaugan is on the .e16 directory, but you need to edit it in NO e16 |
| 20:36.22 | Thanatermesis | oh yes... Schamane__ you are on the PRE or the final release ? |
| 20:36.28 | Schamane__ | final |
| 20:36.35 | RubenHaugan | from e17? |
| 20:36.40 | Schamane__ | i`va installed again on monday |
| 20:36.59 | Thanatermesis | RubenHaugan for example... or you don't really need graphical system ;) |
| 20:37.12 | RubenHaugan | ok. but what file? |
| 20:37.37 | Thanatermesis | Schamane__ its strange.. really strange, in any case i don't look the problem with your language... |
| 20:37.45 | Thanatermesis | Schamane__ do you have a router to close your ports ? |
| 20:37.55 | Schamane__ | Thanatermesis, yes |
| 20:38.12 | Thanatermesis | RubenHaugan launch "buscar-profundo engage" ;) on the .e16 dir |
| 20:38.31 | Thanatermesis | Schamane__ for share the destkop and try from it... more easy |
| 20:38.36 | Thanatermesis | you can posible to open ports ? |
| 20:38.51 | Schamane__ | yes i can open ports |
| 20:38.59 | Schamane__ | ssh is still open since saturday |
| 20:39.08 | RubenHaugan | ok. be right back |
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| 20:40.26 | Thanatermesis | Schamane__ ok, enter on #schamane |
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| 20:42.03 | RubenHaugan | Thanatermesis, hmm, I can see that it displays some info, (-T 1) how to change this to -T 0? |
| 20:43.35 | LinuxNIT | can elive suspend or hybernate? |
| 20:43.51 | Thanatermesis | RubenHaugan you found in the first column, the exact name of the file and the line, just edit it... but remember, NO in e16 |
| 20:43.52 | RubenHaugan | e_config 0.0, 0.1, 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, window? |
| 20:44.22 | Thanatermesis | LinuxNIT this is a linux (kernel) thing, try it if you like... same to a debian way, if is suported on this kernel and your machine works good... |
| 20:44.28 | Thanatermesis | i don't like very this things in any case |
| 20:44.36 | Thanatermesis | RubenHaugan oh.. 0.0 |
| 20:45.02 | RubenHaugan | and then buscar-profundo engage? |
| 20:45.31 | Thanatermesis | no.. the file is "0.0" |
| 20:45.42 | Thanatermesis | 0.0 = first monitor, first X server |
| 20:46.00 | wasynyt | night to all, i will ask more guestions tomorrow :D |
| 20:46.37 | LinuxNIT | night |
| 20:46.43 | RubenHaugan | I'm trying now. BRB |
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| 20:47.44 | LinuxNIT | ok Thanatermesis i guess i just never knew what the commands were to tell it to hybernate or suspend. i did it only once in kde and configured it from kdes control panel :-/ |
| 20:48.04 | RubenHaugan | Thanks Thanatermesis! It works:-) |
| 20:48.32 | Thanatermesis | LinuxNIT just ask google then ;) |
| 20:48.35 | Thanatermesis | apt hibernate |
| 20:48.37 | apt | from memory, hibernate is at http://www.hibernate.org/ |
| 20:48.37 | Thanatermesis | apt hibernation |
| 20:48.45 | LinuxNIT | k htanks |
| 20:56.15 | RubenHaugan | OK, know I'll go to sleep! |
| 20:56.19 | RubenHaugan | By everyone! |
| 20:56.36 | LinuxNIT | bye |
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| 21:04.56 | eManu | buenas :) |
| 21:05.17 | LinuxNIT | hello |
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| 21:15.08 | Thanatermesis | Schamane__ what happens ? strange things on the destkop ? |
| 21:15.13 | Schamane__ | Thanatermesis, it really wrks now, but x just restarted itself |
| 21:15.27 | Thanatermesis | "exit" or just "reload" ? |
| 21:15.52 | Schamane__ | completly restart |
| 21:16.08 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, strange |
| 21:16.11 | Schamane__ | i get back to authentification |
| 21:16.19 | Schamane__ | on userscreen |
| 21:17.02 | Schamane__ | and vnc is off again |
| 21:17.15 | Schamane__ | ok, i think thats normal after x restart |
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| 21:17.39 | Schamane__ | but hey, it really piss me, that its now working wihtout any changes |
| 21:17.55 | Thanatermesis | hehe, i don't know |
| 21:17.59 | Schamane__ | believe me, it really hasnt work |
| 21:18.07 | Thanatermesis | maybe is because you are using the final release now and no the PRE |
| 21:18.19 | Schamane__ | it doesnt work on hour ago |
| 21:18.34 | Thanatermesis | hehe, strange.. try you |
| 21:18.39 | Schamane__ | i write it on chan and gr8nash tested it too, for him it worked |
| 21:18.45 | Thanatermesis | try again and from diferents ways/users.. etc |
| 21:18.51 | Schamane__ | i`ve tried already, now it works |
| 21:19.30 | Schamane__ | as root and as normal user |
| 21:20.26 | Thanatermesis | i think to its just a problem of the languages (locales) |
| 21:20.32 | Schamane__ | but thx |
| 21:20.34 | Thanatermesis | i have fixed it HARDLY from the PRE version |
| 21:20.44 | Thanatermesis | in the PRE version don't works "totally perfect" |
| 21:20.49 | Thanatermesis | but now, in the final release yes |
| 21:21.11 | Schamane__ | two hours ago not, but who cares ;) now it works strange but good :) |
| 21:21.15 | Thanatermesis | i think to your locales not is "totally perfect" in the last tests (pre version), but using the final version, your locales works perfectly and then, it works :) |
| 21:21.28 | Thanatermesis | do you have reconfigured the language on this time ? |
| 21:21.32 | Schamane__ | no |
| 21:21.43 | Schamane__ | iv only configured it at the first boot |
| 21:21.51 | Thanatermesis | strange... |
| 21:21.57 | Schamane__ | indeed |
| 21:22.09 | Thanatermesis | and you have before (when no works) the same messages to in the another instalaltion ? |
| 21:22.25 | Schamane__ | exactly the same |
| 21:22.36 | Thanatermesis | strange... |
| 21:22.44 | Thanatermesis | in any case if you look this problem again, call me ;) |
| 21:22.50 | Schamane__ | hm, i gonna reboot now |
| 21:22.53 | Schamane__ | and test it |
| 21:23.00 | Schamane__ | one minute |
| 21:24.25 | Thanatermesis | no any person with ATI for test the support ? |
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| 21:25.47 | simsalabim | Thanatermesis, you won`t believe |
| 21:25.49 | simsalabim | tbo@tbolap[~]$ zenity --error |
| 21:25.49 | simsalabim | tbo@tbolap[~]$ su - |
| 21:25.50 | simsalabim | Password: |
| 21:25.50 | simsalabim | root@tbolap[~]# zenity --error |
| 21:25.52 | simsalabim | Diese Option steht nicht zur Verfügung. Bitte verwenden Sie »--help« für alle Anwendungsmöglichkeiten. |
| 21:25.54 | simsalabim | root@tbolap[~]# |
| 21:25.59 | simsalabim | as user it works as root not |
| 21:26.11 | Thanatermesis | simsalabim try with user: xhost + |
| 21:26.18 | Schamane__ | i will start vnc and test it again |
| 21:26.25 | Thanatermesis | apt x de en Diese Option steht nicht zur Verfügung. Bitte verwenden Sie »--help« für alle Anwendungsmöglichkeiten. |
| 21:26.28 | Schamane__ | oh sure sorry |
| 21:26.35 | Thanatermesis | apt x de en Diese Option steht nicht zur Verfügung. Bitte verwenden Sie »--help« für alle Anwendungsmöglichkeiten. |
| 21:27.06 | Thanatermesis | mmh, ok, one sec |
| 21:27.34 | Schamane__ | tbo@tbolap[~]$ xhost + |
| 21:27.34 | Schamane__ | access control disabled, clients can connect from any host |
| 21:27.34 | Schamane__ | tbo@tbolap[~]$ su - |
| 21:27.34 | Schamane__ | Password: |
| 21:27.34 | Schamane__ | root@tbolap[~]# export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 |
| 21:27.35 | Schamane__ | root@tbolap[~]# zenity --error |
| 21:27.37 | Schamane__ | Diese Option steht nicht zur Verfügung. Bitte verwenden Sie »--help« für alle Anwendungsmöglichkeiten. |
| 21:27.39 | Schamane__ | root@tbolap[~]# |
| 21:28.10 | Schamane__ | starnge again |
| 21:28.17 | Schamane__ | now i start vnc and try again |
| 21:28.19 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 21:29.03 | Schamane__ | no still not working |
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| 21:31.04 | M|[ke | hello again :D |
| 21:32.13 | Thanatermesis | Schamane__ you have found the message of "reload your X" ? |
| 21:32.20 | Schamane__ | the information pops up again |
| 21:32.21 | Thanatermesis | hello M|[ke, works good ? |
| 21:32.29 | Thanatermesis | ok Schamane__, i have closed the connection... |
| 21:32.32 | Thanatermesis | its very strange |
| 21:32.44 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, im having some problems with booting the installed system, i cant get root to mount properly, i think its because the module sata_nv cannot be loaded |
| 21:32.46 | Thanatermesis | how do you have open this terminal with root before Schamane__ ? |
| 21:32.50 | Thanatermesis | same way to me ? |
| 21:32.56 | Schamane__ | yes |
| 21:32.58 | Schamane__ | su - |
| 21:33.02 | Schamane__ | not su |
| 21:33.07 | Schamane__ | i take the envirement |
| 21:33.30 | Schamane__ | but i made the export DISPLAY |
| 21:33.33 | Thanatermesis | M|[ke mmmh, im not sure, the kernel installed is a 2.6.12 based on debian, it has the good drivers... maybe because using a floppy ? do you have tried installing grub on the MBR ? |
| 21:33.36 | Schamane__ | why hasnt that worked |
| 21:33.46 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... |
| 21:33.53 | Thanatermesis | Schamane__ open the connection again |
| 21:33.57 | Schamane__ | sure |
| 21:34.09 | Schamane__ | open |
| 21:34.21 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, ok :P No im having multiple OS so i dont wanna ruin that just yet :D |
| 21:34.52 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, i have configured the modules a bit now, so im gonna try booting it again |
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| 21:35.15 | Thanatermesis | Schamane__ aparently "su -" not works ;) |
| 21:35.24 | Schamane__ | yes ;) |
| 21:35.33 | Schamane__ | i always use su - |
| 21:35.37 | Schamane__ | ;) |
| 21:35.49 | Thanatermesis | i don't really use it.. .i just use root when i need root, and user what when i need user... i don't really want/use to mix variables... aparently this is the problem |
| 21:35.56 | Schamane__ | i would never thought about such an failure |
| 21:35.59 | LinuxNIT | M|[ke, is grup installed elsewhere |
| 21:36.01 | Elive_user54 | try su -n |
| 21:36.09 | Thanatermesis | but not is a problem for the system.. the system don't give the variables of the user, just launch things on root when he needs it |
| 21:36.21 | M|[ke | LinuxNIT, its just installed on fd0 |
| 21:36.35 | LinuxNIT | what bootlaoder is on mbr |
| 21:36.56 | Thanatermesis | M|[ke do you know the partition where you have your original (the menu/grub actual) of you use ? |
| 21:37.22 | M|[ke | LinuxNIT, for know it is, oooh im ashamed, windows xp hrrm >D |
| 21:37.36 | LinuxNIT | oh lol |
| 21:37.59 | LinuxNIT | grub can boot windows no problem |
| 21:38.12 | M|[ke | i actually offered Elive my SUSE partition today :D |
| 21:38.20 | LinuxNIT | :0 |
| 21:38.22 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 21:38.48 | Elive_user54 | Elive still has some bugs |
| 21:39.01 | M|[ke | well lets sort them out :D |
| 21:39.05 | Elive_user54 | I expect be improved soonly |
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| 21:39.58 | M|[ke | im gonna give it another try now, cya guys later |
| 21:42.05 | Thanatermesis | Impaler what bugs ? |
| 21:42.25 | Impaler | some windows crashs.. |
| 21:42.37 | Thanatermesis | Impaler windows crashs ? o_O |
| 21:42.42 | Thanatermesis | do you are on e17 ? |
| 21:42.50 | Impaler | yes |
| 21:42.58 | Thanatermesis | and do you know to e17 is in developement ? ;) |
| 21:43.01 | Thanatermesis | apt e17 |
| 21:43.02 | apt | hmm... e17 is IN DEVELOPEMENT |
| 21:43.22 | Impaler | sorry I forgot adding e17 to my comment |
| 21:43.31 | Thanatermesis | is unstable, in developement, it can be posible to segfault in any moment |
| 21:43.36 | Impaler | yes, i know it |
| 21:43.42 | Thanatermesis | if you want stability, you have for it e16 |
| 21:43.49 | Thanatermesis | i work on e16 |
| 21:43.52 | Impaler | but will be a good choice |
| 21:44.05 | LinuxNIT | phh who wants stability ;) |
| 21:44.09 | Thanatermesis | and my computer runs day and night, wihtout any reboot or exit from X, without any problem with any program |
| 21:44.25 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 21:44.35 | Thanatermesis | Impaler is just your choice... if you want beauty, use e17, if you want stability, use e16 |
| 21:44.41 | Impaler | one thing i can say...the next MS Windows wont be at my hard disk... |
| 21:44.55 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 21:45.00 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 21:45.08 | LinuxNIT | MS windows it not on this HD :D |
| 21:45.15 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es one thing i can say...the next MS Windows wont be at my hard disk... |
| 21:45.34 | Thanatermesis | ah, good :) |
| 21:45.45 | Impaler | no..i dont want only beauty...i use gnome in my work because i prefer stability |
| 21:45.57 | lordbambi | i have some hardware bugs that wheren't a problen in o.3..... |
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| 21:46.18 | LinuxNIT | all i have on this this hd is debian debian and elive(more debian) lol |
| 21:46.20 | Thanatermesis | Impaler don't worry if you look e17 more beautiful for now... after i make (when i have time) the interactive tutorial for e16, im pretty sure to a lot of ppl switch from e17 to e16 ;) |
| 21:46.32 | M|[ke | crap |
| 21:46.38 | M|[ke | that didnt work either.. |
| 21:46.56 | LinuxNIT | M|[ke, what didnt |
| 21:46.57 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 21:47.01 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/shots/e16-horizon.jpg <--- i like more the look of my e16 than my e17 |
| 21:47.13 | M|[ke | LinuxNIT, somehow configured |
| 21:47.16 | M|[ke | oops |
| 21:47.27 | Impaler | I have Ubuntu in my main PC...this one got e17 |
| 21:47.46 | M|[ke | somehow configured sata_nv to load, but it didnt load :) |
| 21:48.05 | LinuxNIT | oh add it on a line by itslef to /etc/modules |
| 21:48.15 | Impaler | these days i will install e16 for develop testing |
| 21:48.16 | LinuxNIT | sorry i didnt think to say that earlier |
| 21:48.36 | M|[ke | LinuxNIT, its already in there? |
| 21:49.13 | LinuxNIT | if you add sata_nv to /etc/modules it will load on boot |
| 21:49.15 | Thanatermesis | M|[ke and with the grub on the MBR ? |
| 21:49.43 | M|[ke | LinuxNIT, yeah, and its already in there :P |
| 21:49.44 | Thanatermesis | M|[ke if you don't like the grub of Elive you can posible to restore it by your normal grub.. but in any case, Elive add all the posible OS founded on the menu |
| 21:49.46 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 21:50.52 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, no i dont dare do use it on the MBR yet, i have the need of having windows xp operational right now |
| 21:51.17 | Thanatermesis | M|[ke and where is the problem ? Elive add your windows in the grub menu without any problem |
| 21:51.30 | lordbambi | it worked on MBR here... |
| 21:52.20 | LinuxNIT | well igtg later guys |
| 21:52.33 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, yeah i guess it does, but if i one day desides to not just grub anymore i wont be able to start windows without reinstalling it |
| 21:52.50 | LinuxNIT | yeah you can :) |
| 21:53.04 | M|[ke | i can? |
| 21:53.06 | M|[ke | how? |
| 21:53.14 | LinuxNIT | laod windows install disk go to recovery console and use fixmbr |
| 21:53.22 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 21:53.26 | M|[ke | oho i see :D |
| 21:53.40 | M|[ke | ehh wtf, ill install in on MBR |
| 21:53.46 | M|[ke | it |
| 21:53.55 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 21:53.56 | LinuxNIT | later |
| 21:53.58 | LinuxNIT | i gtg |
| 21:54.12 | M|[ke | cya |
| 21:54.15 | Thanatermesis | M|[ke just put a boot floppy of windows and type "fdisk /mbr" |
| 21:54.30 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, ok thanks :P |
| 21:54.43 | Thanatermesis | fixmbr ? oh.. maybe.. i don't know... i don't use win from very very years old :) |
| 21:54.57 | M|[ke | im gonna reinstall Elive now then :D |
| 21:54.57 | Thanatermesis | win call's me... but i kick he in the ass O:) |
| 21:55.09 | M|[ke | Hahahah :D |
| 21:55.10 | lordbambi | don't do fdisk /mbr. that is for win98 |
| 21:55.13 | Thanatermesis | M|[ke no reinstall Elive |
| 21:55.22 | Thanatermesis | just install grub on MBR ;) |
| 21:56.03 | M|[ke | but i have to have a grub.conf that has windows and elive innit |
| 21:56.21 | lordbambi | thana is it possible isa-pnp has gone in 0.4? some devices that worked in 0.3 don't work anymore in 0.4 |
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| 21:56.35 | lordbambi | m|]ke... changing grub is simple |
| 21:56.36 | Thanatermesis | M|[ke you have it automatically ;) |
| 21:56.54 | Thanatermesis | lordbambi maybe better support for all on the 0.5 |
| 21:56.57 | M|[ke | ahh well then :D |
| 21:57.03 | Thanatermesis | i don0't like the kernel of the liveCD on 0.3/0.4 |
| 21:57.14 | lordbambi | cd /boot, cd grub, vi menu.lst |
| 21:57.24 | lordbambi | it worked in 0.3 :-( |
| 21:57.38 | Thanatermesis | lordbambi what about the installed system ? |
| 21:58.20 | M|[ke | wich kernel should i use, the one in /vmlinuz or /boot/vmlinuz or /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12 ? |
| 21:58.22 | lordbambi | it's an armada 1750 with apm (NO ACPI) and an isa-pnp sound card. elive 0.3 had no problems. 0.4 gives me crap |
| 21:59.02 | lordbambi | and i need apm becouse my cpu overheats |
| 21:59.26 | lordbambi | since there is no good support, it doesn't start the cpu fan |
| 21:59.33 | Thanatermesis | M|[ke don't touch the menu.lst file, just install grub on MBR |
| 21:59.50 | Thanatermesis | lordbambi use apm then, where is the problem ? |
| 22:00.12 | lordbambi | doesn't work... i changed the menu.lst and added -noacpi. doesn't work |
| 22:00.16 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, but the file didnt even exist |
| 22:00.50 | Thanatermesis | M|[ke bah... reinstall Elive then.. is just 3 questions and 8 minutes in the fast mode ;) |
| 22:01.12 | Thanatermesis | lordbambi do you have installed a debian on this computer ? |
| 22:01.19 | lordbambi | elive 0.4 |
| 22:01.26 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, anyways, im installing it again, but this time i will select install to MBR :P |
| 22:01.47 | Thanatermesis | ok :) |
| 22:02.00 | Thanatermesis | lordbambi just a Elive ? no a pure debian ? |
| 22:02.15 | lordbambi | a "pure" elive 0.4 |
| 22:02.21 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, i have no problem installing it again, ive got all the time in the world right now ;) |
| 22:02.34 | Thanatermesis | lordbambi do you have look on google about how to install debian on computers to need "no acpi" ? or what things needs to has for disable acpi ? |
| 22:02.58 | lordbambi | i'll try, what about sound? |
| 22:03.08 | lordbambi | isa-pnp? |
| 22:03.46 | Thanatermesis | lordbambi when you put the "no acpi" words on the grub... he are passed directly to /proc/cmdline (try a "cat" of this file), but in reality this is all... another thing reads it after, normally a init scrip, and then make things for depends what things... |
| 22:04.16 | Thanatermesis | lordbambi in the kernel 2.6.12 of the installed system, you can't posible ot configure the sound ? |
| 22:05.50 | lordbambi | it normally works in alsa |
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| 22:06.13 | M|[ke | ok, install finished, time for some testing :D |
| 22:06.17 | M|[ke | brb again :D |
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| 22:08.38 | lordbambi | thana.. it's getting late here. i'll install 0.3, check out some setting that are made, and compare them to 0.4 |
| 22:08.56 | lordbambi | when i find the solution i'll report it to you. |
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| 22:13.13 | M|[ke | whooho :D |
| 22:13.18 | M|[ke | now it works :D |
| 22:14.27 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 22:14.49 | tuxit | okies I'm off to bed, cya laters all |
| 22:16.46 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, Thanks for all the help :D |
| 22:16.58 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, Much appreciated :P |
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| 22:18.13 | Elive_user | I have a small problem |
| 22:18.18 | Thanatermesis | welcome M|[ke :) |
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| 22:18.35 | M|[ke | Thanatermesis, Thanks! :D |
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| 22:19.25 | Thanatermesis | Gryn ask |
| 22:19.42 | Thanatermesis | M|[ke make a look on elpanel... you have a lot of features, also a grub menu editor graphically ;) |
| 22:19.46 | Gryn | In terminal the font is'nt legiable... its' jumbled.. it's like all symbols |
| 22:20.20 | M|[ke | ooh really! thats cool! :D |
| 22:20.36 | Gryn | ha not if your trying to actually use it. |
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| 22:22.12 | saad3000 | hello,everyone |
| 22:23.13 | Thanatermesis | Gryn make a look to the bugs page of Elive |
| 22:23.15 | Thanatermesis | apt elive-bugs |
| 22:23.16 | apt | elive-bugs is, like, first look on http://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Bugs/ , please make a look before ask |
| 22:23.30 | saad3000 | Thanatermesis: how are you/ |
| 22:23.35 | Gryn | ok, tnx |
| 22:23.43 | Thanatermesis | why the ppl don't search their problem on this page ? i dont' understand... :( |
| 22:23.56 | Thanatermesis | saad3000 good, and you ? |
| 22:24.07 | saad3000 | great |
| 22:24.18 | Thanatermesis | Gryn not is personal... is just a question... mmmh, what time you are running Elive with this problem ? |
| 22:24.36 | saad3000 | Thanatermesis: How can I chnage the fonts color of the root window terminal? |
| 22:24.49 | saad3000 | I mean i managed to change the bg |
| 22:25.03 | Thanatermesis | saad3000 search on google "howto prompt", but i think to its a little hard... maybe a future feature for elpanel ;) |
| 22:25.19 | Gryn | time? well this is my first tiem running Elive, i just installed it on the hardrive... it worked fine off the live c.d. |
| 22:25.30 | saad3000 | yah because everything has to got thru epanel |
| 22:26.04 | saad3000 | Thanatermesis: by the way booting from elivecd enables the sound Automatically. |
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| 22:27.39 | Gryn | is the elive site down? |
| 22:27.42 | saad3000 | I wonder how do I move and resize the terminal if its borderless |
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| 22:28.11 | Thanatermesis | Gryn and if you don't think to enter on this channel for ask about the problem... what is the thing to you think to make for found how to solve the problem ? :) |
| 22:28.49 | Thanatermesis | Gryn strange... aparently yes :/ |
| 22:29.06 | Gryn | ha yeah... thats very odd... i was just on the site a little while ago.. |
| 22:29.44 | saad3000 | Thanatermesis: is there a way to make Engage transperent? |
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| 22:53.40 | saad3000 | 1-084119121168.chello.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] |
| 22:56.01 | Thanatermesis | lol |
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| 22:57.34 | saad3000 | If the kernel didn't recognize my wireless card, how do I install it then? |
| 22:59.40 | sinplomo | saad3000, wich wireless card do you have ? |
| 22:59.56 | saad3000 | intel pro/2200 bg |
| 23:00.25 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, you included ipw2200 ? |
| 23:00.55 | sinplomo | saad3000, apt-get install ipw2200-modules-2.6.12 |
| 23:01.04 | saad3000 | alright sinplomo |
| 23:02.51 | saad3000 | sinplomo: how do I set the proxy to the terminal so I wont have to use synaptics to install stuff? |
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| 23:04.29 | Schamane__ | write this to your apt.conf |
| 23:04.39 | saad3000 | Schamane__: oh oke thanx |
| 23:04.40 | Schamane__ | Acquire::http::Proxy "http://<adresse>:<Port>" |
| 23:05.40 | saad3000 | where is apt.conf located? |
| 23:05.48 | Schamane__ | /etc/apt/ |
| 23:06.05 | saad3000 | apt-file.conf |
| 23:06.20 | saad3000 | right thanx mam |
| 23:06.23 | saad3000 | man* |
| 23:06.31 | sinplomo | saad3000, in a terminal ... export http_proxy="adress" |
| 23:08.03 | Thanatermesis | <sinplomo> Thanatermesis, you included ipw2200 ? |
| 23:08.05 | Thanatermesis | in the livecd yes |
| 23:08.16 | Thanatermesis | in the installed system, all modules are available via apt-get |
| 23:08.45 | Schamane__ | saad3000, you have to create apt.conf in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ |
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| 23:09.42 | saad3000 | Schamane__: thats why |
| 23:09.52 | saad3000 | Schamane__: and i will put this line |
| 23:09.57 | saad3000 | Acquire::http::Proxy "http://<adresse>:<Port>" |
| 23:10.03 | saad3000 | ? |
| 23:10.13 | Schamane__ | yes thats if you wanna use a proxy for apt-get |
| 23:10.21 | saad3000 | yep |
| 23:10.30 | Schamane__ | yes this line in /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 23:11.09 | Schamane__ | or in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/apt.conf dont remember i use proxy only on work |
| 23:12.01 | saad3000 | goddamn it |
| 23:12.02 | Schamane__ | need this proxy user authentification? |
| 23:12.04 | saad3000 | its not working |
| 23:12.11 | sinplomo | /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/apt.conf yes |
| 23:12.14 | saad3000 | no i just put the ip and port |
| 23:12.26 | sinplomo | saad3000, try export http_proxy="adress" |
| 23:12.36 | saad3000 | sinplomo: i did that too it didn;t wotk |
| 23:12.39 | saad3000 | work. |
| 23:13.01 | sinplomo | O_o |
| 23:13.30 | Schamane__ | proxy user authentification is required? |
| 23:13.49 | saad3000 | no |
| 23:13.53 | Schamane__ | hm |
| 23:13.56 | Schamane__ | strange |
| 23:14.08 | Schamane__ | it works great for me at work |
| 23:14.31 | Schamane__ | oh mistake |
| 23:14.42 | Schamane__ | Acquire::http::Proxy "http://<adresse>:<Port>"; |
| 23:14.48 | Schamane__ | the ; is important |
| 23:14.50 | saad3000 | semi colon |
| 23:14.53 | saad3000 | oh ok |
| 23:14.59 | Schamane__ | yes |
| 23:15.25 | saad3000 | didnt work |
| 23:15.31 | sinplomo | saad3000, withouth the <> |
| 23:15.36 | sinplomo | lol |
| 23:15.36 | sinplomo | :) |
| 23:15.42 | saad3000 | i added a file apt.conf in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ |
| 23:15.45 | saad3000 | with this line |
| 23:15.46 | Schamane__ | in /etc/apt/apt.conf? |
| 23:16.01 | saad3000 | Acquire::http::Proxy "http://192.168.20.1:8080"; |
| 23:16.08 | Schamane__ | copy it to etc7apt and try again |
| 23:16.20 | saad3000 | k |
| 23:17.03 | saad3000 | didnt work |
| 23:17.05 | saad3000 | weird man |
| 23:17.09 | Schamane__ | hm |
| 23:17.11 | saad3000 | I can download via synaptics |
| 23:18.08 | saad3000 | sinplomo: declare -x http_proxy="192.168.20.1:8080" |
| 23:18.14 | saad3000 | i have this line in export |
| 23:18.17 | saad3000 | and yet didn't work |
| 23:20.38 | Schamane__ | the syntax is right |
| 23:20.47 | Schamane__ | i looked in debian howto |
| 23:21.15 | Schamane__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:21.37 | Schamane__ | just a second |
| 23:22.26 | Schamane__ | i connect to my pc at work |
| 23:22.27 | Schamane__ | ah shit not able to connect, citrix is not installed on elive :( |
| 23:23.26 | saad3000 | 32what is citrix |
| 23:23.26 | saad3000 | lol |
| 23:23.26 | saad3000 | ? |
| 23:24.41 | Schamane__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.41 | Schamane__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.41 | Schamane__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.41 | Schamane__ | Acquire::http::Proxy "http://<ton_proxy>:<port_de_ton_proxy>"; |
| 23:24.59 | saad3000 | Schamane__: yah alright |
| 23:25.02 | Schamane__ | here is an link for such an file |
| 23:25.06 | Schamane__ | http://mairie.wanadoo.fr/saintthonan/programmes/apt.conf |
| 23:25.14 | saad3000 | alright thanx man |
| 23:25.18 | Schamane__ | np |
| 23:25.39 | Schamane__ | have you configured wget for proxy use? |
| 23:26.27 | Schamane__ | delete all excluding acquire....... |
| 23:26.32 | saad3000 | it worked man |
| 23:26.42 | saad3000 | Schamane__: yah i did that |
| 23:26.52 | saad3000 | yah yah it worked |
| 23:26.52 | saad3000 | ;> |
| 23:26.52 | saad3000 | thanx |
| 23:26.52 | Schamane__ | hm then you mistyped before |
| 23:27.20 | Schamane__ | no problem |
| 23:27.57 | Schamane__ | have fun, apt-get is the best packet Tool EVER |
| 23:28.40 | Schamane__ | type apt-get moo :) |
| 23:29.19 | saad3000 | The ipw2200 driver needs additional firmware to function properly. Presently you do not have the firmware installed on your system or the installed version does not match the requirements of this version of the ipw2200 driver. |
| 23:30.02 | *** join/#elive tizoc (n=bruno@r200-125-29-52-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 23:30.04 | Schamane__ | i never worked with ipw2200 always use ndiswrapper for my wlan card |
| 23:30.07 | *** join/#elive Elive_user62 (n=Elive_us@static-213-240-228-219.megalan.bg) |
| 23:30.23 | saad3000 | wmine need ipw |
| 23:32.15 | Thanatermesis | Schamane__ you have the modules via apt-get... |
| 23:32.32 | Schamane__ | which? ndiswrapper? |
| 23:32.35 | Thanatermesis | ndiswrapper is a very good thing but not is very secure... you can posible to give kernel panics and ugly things |
| 23:32.43 | Thanatermesis | no, the real modules for the kernel for your card |
| 23:33.25 | saad3000 | Thanatermesis: it told me that i need firmware |
| 23:33.32 | saad3000 | for the ipw |
| 23:33.57 | Schamane__ | saad3000, you need this |
| 23:33.58 | Schamane__ | http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/firmware.php |
| 23:34.18 | saad3000 | aha |
| 23:34.20 | Schamane__ | Thanatermesis, i got an wg511v2 Made in china :( not with prism chip |
| 23:34.26 | saad3000 | Schamane__: can I apt-get install it? |
| 23:34.32 | Thanatermesis | <saad3000> Thanatermesis: it told me that i need firmware |
| 23:34.37 | Schamane__ | just download it |
| 23:34.42 | Thanatermesis | apt-cache search ipw firmware |
| 23:34.44 | Schamane__ | wget |
| 23:34.58 | saad3000 | k k |
| 23:35.02 | Schamane__ | hehe |
| 23:35.07 | saad3000 | thanx thanx lol |
| 23:35.10 | Thanatermesis | apt powa ! |
| 23:35.13 | apt | ACTION ;) |
| 23:35.15 | Schamane__ | it rules |
| 23:35.20 | Schamane__ | apt moo |
| 23:35.21 | apt | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ |
| 23:35.39 | Schamane__ | methane gas :) |
| 23:36.46 | Schamane__ | Thanatermesis, is everything supported for ipw2200 in the default kernel |
| 23:36.48 | Schamane__ | ? |
| 23:38.48 | Schamane__ | hm, ipw2200 supports monitor mode |
| 23:38.49 | Schamane__ | fine |
| 23:38.59 | Schamane__ | is ipw2200 centrino? |
| 23:39.18 | Thanatermesis | i don't know very about the wifi Schamane__ |
| 23:39.39 | Thanatermesis | on the liveCD kernel yes, normally by default, on the installed system, you need apt-cache search |
| 23:40.13 | Schamane__ | i take a look in config |
| 23:42.43 | Thanatermesis | lol apt@link.moo |
| 23:43.27 | saad3000 | Thanatermesis: I installed them both and still no wireless extention and when i do ifconfig -a doesn't show me the wireless card |
| 23:44.24 | saad3000 | ipw2200-modules-2.6.12 is already the newest version. |
| 23:44.41 | Schamane__ | saad3000, lsmod |grep ipw* |
| 23:44.47 | Schamane__ | give this any result? |
| 23:45.02 | saad3000 | ipw2x00-fw is already the newest version. |
| 23:45.07 | saad3000 | ok |
| 23:45.39 | saad3000 | ipv6 262784 8 |
| 23:46.01 | saad3000 | only |
| 23:46.07 | Schamane__ | saad3000, lsmod |grep ipw* NOT ipV |
| 23:46.52 | Schamane__ | or just load it |
| 23:46.55 | Schamane__ | do an |
| 23:47.01 | Schamane__ | modprobe ipw2200 |
| 23:47.45 | saad3000 | root@LebLinuX[/home/saad3000]# modprobe ipw2200 |
| 23:47.46 | saad3000 | root@LebLinuX[/home/saad3000]# iwconfig |
| 23:47.46 | saad3000 | lo no wireless extensions. |
| 23:47.46 | saad3000 | eth0 no wireless extensions. |
| 23:47.46 | saad3000 | sit0 no wireless extensions. |
| 23:47.57 | saad3000 | nothing |
| 23:48.01 | Schamane__ | give modprobe anything back? |
| 23:48.08 | saad3000 | nope |
| 23:48.14 | Schamane__ | thats good |
| 23:48.37 | Schamane__ | got to /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware |
| 23:48.43 | saad3000 | lsmod | grep ipw |
| 23:48.43 | saad3000 | ipw2200 189568 0 |
| 23:48.44 | saad3000 | firmware_class 10208 1 ipw2200 |
| 23:48.44 | saad3000 | ieee80211 46856 1 ipw2200 |
| 23:48.44 | saad3000 | ieee80211_crypt 5892 2 ipw2200,ieee80211 |
| 23:48.52 | Schamane__ | looks good |
| 23:49.00 | Schamane__ | ipw2200 is loaded |
| 23:49.06 | Schamane__ | open a term as root |
| 23:49.08 | saad3000 | but its not in ifconfig -a |
| 23:49.14 | saad3000 | and not in iwconfig |
| 23:49.15 | Schamane__ | and enter the following |
| 23:49.27 | Schamane__ | tail -f /var/log/messages |
| 23:49.33 | Schamane__ | got that? |
| 23:49.56 | Schamane__ | then remove the wifi card or deactivate it |
| 23:50.03 | saad3000 | Feb 23 01:49:41 localhost kernel: ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.0.8 |
| 23:50.06 | saad3000 | Feb 23 01:49:41 localhost kernel: ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2005 Intel Corporation |
| 23:50.08 | Schamane__ | and reactivate/insert it |
| 23:50.09 | saad3000 | Feb 23 01:49:41 localhost kernel: ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection |
| 23:50.12 | saad3000 | Feb 23 01:49:42 localhost kernel: ipw2200: probe of 0000:06:03.0 failed with error -5 |
| 23:50.17 | Schamane__ | ui |
| 23:50.18 | saad3000 | am on laptop |
| 23:50.23 | saad3000 | i cant remove |
| 23:50.32 | Schamane__ | but activate and deactivate |
| 23:50.41 | saad3000 | there is the button |
| 23:50.50 | saad3000 | that when i push it lights on xp |
| 23:50.58 | saad3000 | here i keep push it doesnt light |
| 23:51.42 | Schamane__ | no but in the term of tail -f /var/log/messages there should happen some output |
| 23:51.55 | saad3000 | Schamane__: i pasted |
| 23:51.57 | saad3000 | didn;t i |
| 23:52.03 | Schamane__ | sure you did |
| 23:52.11 | Schamane__ | let the term with it OPEN |
| 23:52.25 | saad3000 | Feb 23 01:54:41 localhost kernel: atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xd5 on isa0060/serio0). |
| 23:52.29 | saad3000 | Feb 23 01:54:41 localhost kernel: atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e055 <keycode>' to make it known. |
| 23:52.31 | Schamane__ | then deactivate and activate it |
| 23:52.36 | saad3000 | i did |
| 23:52.36 | saad3000 | see |
| 23:52.57 | Schamane__ | strange nothing about your card |
| 23:53.10 | Schamane__ | in your first paste there was output |
| 23:53.50 | saad3000 | Feb 23 01:49:42 localhost kernel: ipw2200: probe of 0000:06:03.0 failed with error -5 |
| 23:54.17 | saad3000 | maybe i should reboot or deactivate my Network card? |
| 23:54.38 | Schamane__ | no |
| 23:54.45 | saad3000 | weird eh |
| 23:54.50 | Schamane__ | go to /usr/lib/hotplug |
| 23:54.54 | Schamane__ | do an ls |
| 23:56.26 | Schamane__ | is ipw2200 there? |
| 23:56.43 | saad3000 | ok |
| 23:57.18 | saad3000 | Schamane__: the firmware is there |
| 23:57.19 | saad3000 | only |
| 23:57.31 | saad3000 | it has bunch of files that ends with .fw |
| 23:57.47 | Schamane__ | just do the following |
| 23:57.53 | Schamane__ | its just a try |
| 23:58.24 | Schamane__ | in /usr/lib/hotplug/ |
| 23:58.32 | Schamane__ | cp * /lib/firmware/ |
| 23:58.41 | Schamane__ | and reactivate the card |
| 23:58.56 | Schamane__ | looking in the term where tail -f is running |
| 23:59.11 | saad3000 | ok |
