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| 00:06.35 | IcedEarth | thanks for help withoutclass, goodnight |
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| 00:17.28 | ToRiD | elive doesnt work with my network card |
| 00:18.26 | ToRiD | any suggestions ? |
| 00:18.43 | o[WildChild]o | what is your network card? |
| 00:18.53 | ToRiD | sis900 based. |
| 00:18.57 | ToRiD | it works in ubuntu |
| 00:19.01 | ToRiD | weird... |
| 00:19.05 | ToRiD | this is mepis |
| 00:19.10 | ToRiD | also debian based... |
| 00:19.17 | o[WildChild]o | mepis? |
| 00:19.25 | ToRiD | livecd with installer on it |
| 00:19.32 | o[WildChild]o | morphix |
| 00:19.35 | o[WildChild]o | not mepis |
| 00:19.36 | o[WildChild]o | :) |
| 00:19.45 | ToRiD | would be better maybe but its mepis |
| 00:20.04 | ToRiD | it detected my network card because it was in the network card preferences panel |
| 00:20.16 | ToRiD | but when i press activate it shows me a progress bar |
| 00:20.25 | ToRiD | and after some time : "cannot be activated" |
| 00:22.16 | ToRiD | i tried "ifconfig eth2 up" too.. |
| 00:24.44 | withoutclass | why are you configuring eth2? |
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| 00:42.06 | Elive_user | ciao |
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| 00:52.52 | Zarephath | woaaaaaaa |
| 00:53.06 | withoutclass | Zarephath, whoa eh? |
| 00:53.26 | Zarephath | I have some existing partitions that I just want to format to install elive to...but I don't see an option to format? |
| 00:53.42 | withoutclass | Zarephath, are you in the installer now? |
| 00:54.09 | Zarephath | withoutclass: Yeppir...I finally found a beautiful linux distro..that I actually want to use............ Yes...GParted it open |
| 00:54.30 | withoutclass | Zarephath, it should show all the current partitions on your HD |
| 00:54.47 | Zarephath | It does.. |
| 00:54.49 | GPLGeek | ToRiD was wrong |
| 00:54.55 | o[WildChild]o | I told him |
| 00:54.57 | o[WildChild]o | -_- |
| 00:55.04 | Zarephath | I asked how to format said drives? |
| 00:55.06 | o[WildChild]o | but eh |
| 00:55.12 | o[WildChild]o | who is listening to me in here :( |
| 00:55.13 | Zarephath | errr..partitions |
| 00:55.18 | GPLGeek | It's based on morphix but it's changed so much. |
| 00:55.29 | withoutclass | Zarephath, ok, are they the Filesystem types you want to use already? |
| 00:56.07 | Zarephath | Indeed... /boot is hdb1 hdb2 /swap hdb3 extended hdb5 / and hdb6 /home :-) |
| 00:56.37 | Zarephath | I just need to format them from that broken kororaa crap |
| 00:57.28 | withoutclass | i know that after you select what root partition you want, it formats it, i am unsure about home, but it most likely does the same thing |
| 00:57.38 | withoutclass | after you exit gparted |
| 00:57.46 | withoutclass | it will ask you what drives you wish to use for which |
| 00:57.59 | withoutclass | and then formats them iirc |
| 00:58.15 | Zarephath | ? iirc? |
| 00:58.24 | withoutclass | if i recall correctly |
| 00:58.31 | Zarephath | Ahh |
| 00:59.00 | Zarephath | Heck with it I will just delete and recreat it.. |
| 01:00.12 | Zarephath | Does it install lilo or grub? |
| 01:02.58 | Zarephath | I left a segment unformatted since I didn't see a choice for swap |
| 01:03.10 | Zarephath | segment=partition |
| 01:03.41 | Zarephath | I see no next or anything...what to do? Just apply then close? |
| 01:05.00 | Zarephath | Ahhh..now I get it...just convert it to whichever file format and then it formats... |
| 01:06.52 | Zarephath | Crap..no option for /boot I suspect it is assumed that /boot will reside on the / partition.. |
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| 01:08.28 | Zarephath | C'mon people need some advice here... I know what I want to do and the fsking installer isn't giving the option and I have already partitioned the drive |
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| 01:09.38 | Elive_user | sadf |
| 01:09.40 | Duvelr | Hola! |
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| 01:10.50 | LinuxNIT | ToRiD, did you get it installed? |
| 01:10.54 | LinuxNIT | nm |
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| 01:11.08 | ToRiD | hi |
| 01:11.09 | LinuxNIT | ToRiD, did you get it installed? |
| 01:11.35 | ToRiD | i get |
| 01:11.39 | ToRiD | no network in live mode |
| 01:11.45 | ToRiD | but if i install it i get internet |
| 01:11.53 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 01:12.02 | ToRiD | mmmhmmm |
| 01:12.03 | LinuxNIT | you like it? |
| 01:12.25 | ToRiD | yeah |
| 01:12.31 | ToRiD | i have to install some apps ... |
| 01:12.33 | ToRiD | and themes... |
| 01:12.37 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 01:12.46 | LinuxNIT | yeah i installed more stuff too |
| 01:12.57 | ToRiD | is it able that the ibar is always in front if i move the mouse down there? |
| 01:13.32 | LinuxNIT | you mean like auto raise when mouse hits the bottom of the screen? |
| 01:13.41 | ToRiD | yeah |
| 01:13.45 | LinuxNIT | no :(( |
| 01:13.53 | LinuxNIT | this is one thing i dont like |
| 01:14.46 | ToRiD | and how to change the theme |
| 01:14.54 | ToRiD | i found an entry in live mode but i cannot find it here |
| 01:15.07 | withoutclass | Zarephath, if you set the filesystem to linux-swap, of the partition you want to be swap, it auto-recognizes it |
| 01:15.10 | LinuxNIT | use apt to install more themes then open elpanel to change to them the first time |
| 01:15.31 | LinuxNIT | are you using e17? |
| 01:16.18 | ToRiD | yep |
| 01:16.27 | Zarephath | without class...you didn't get it...there were 4 partitions...the first being what I wanted for /boot...installer does not allow for this option, although I am sure if done from another tty it would be fine...I have it installing...I just had to re-partition a second time :-) |
| 01:16.36 | ToRiD | if its the default one when using hdd instal then yes |
| 01:16.41 | ToRiD | i didnt selected one... |
| 01:16.45 | ToRiD | only in live mode. |
| 01:16.54 | LinuxNIT | apt-cache search e17-theme |
| 01:17.11 | ToRiD | ok |
| 01:17.12 | Zarephath | withoutclass: Where can I read up on e16/e17 configuration? |
| 01:17.27 | LinuxNIT | does the icon bar at the bottom grow where the mouse is? |
| 01:17.54 | withoutclass | i believe u can find help on the enlightenment website |
| 01:17.59 | withoutclass | which is in the link in firefox |
| 01:18.06 | ToRiD | i simply install of the themes.... |
| 01:18.07 | ToRiD | :D |
| 01:18.12 | ToRiD | just to be sure to miss nothing |
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| 01:18.54 | LinuxNIT | ToRiD, does your desktops menus have icons with them or are they plain text? |
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| 01:19.28 | Zarephath | How do I disable the battery monitor? I have no need for it since I don't use laptop |
| 01:19.50 | Zarephath | Or is that just while booted into livecd? |
| 01:19.52 | withoutclass | Zarephath, left click desktop |
| 01:20.01 | withoutclass | go to config, then config |
| 01:20.07 | withoutclass | then in there is modules config |
| 01:20.19 | withoutclass | and there you can turn off battery monitor etc |
| 01:20.19 | ToRiD | how do i find out if i use e16 or e17 |
| 01:20.19 | ToRiD | ? |
| 01:20.28 | LinuxNIT | ToRiD, does your desktops menus have icons with them or are they plain text? |
| 01:20.29 | withoutclass | when u log in |
| 01:20.31 | withoutclass | you pick |
| 01:20.35 | LinuxNIT | left click on desktop |
| 01:20.44 | ToRiD | plain text |
| 01:20.44 | withoutclass | right click would be a better judge |
| 01:20.49 | LinuxNIT | you are in e16 |
| 01:20.50 | withoutclass | menus are differnt |
| 01:20.51 | ToRiD | also plain text |
| 01:20.53 | Zarephath | Ok...what about themes..I saw ToRid asking about that... I know I have to apt-get install..but don't know how to get apt to search for names like "themes" |
| 01:20.55 | ToRiD | let me swich |
| 01:21.01 | LinuxNIT | ToRiD, |
| 01:21.06 | ToRiD | yesß |
| 01:21.08 | ToRiD | yes? |
| 01:21.22 | LinuxNIT | the sitcher is in the bottom left corner (its not exactly obvious) |
| 01:21.24 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 01:21.52 | withoutclass | i foudn it very obvious...then again, i like to look at everything |
| 01:21.59 | withoutclass | =x |
| 01:22.18 | LinuxNIT | well lots of people miss it:) |
| 01:22.33 | withoutclass | they are in too much of a hurry |
| 01:22.46 | withoutclass | plus first time u log in after reboot, entrance doesnt start |
| 01:22.47 | withoutclass | usually |
| 01:23.23 | Zarephath | Does that need to be fixed? Or an additional reboot fixes it? |
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| 01:23.42 | ToRiD | hi again |
| 01:24.23 | LinuxNIT | apt-get install themes then use elpanle to switch them |
| 01:24.25 | o[WildChild]o | ToRiD, as I said later , elive is based on morphix , not mepis :) |
| 01:24.30 | LinuxNIT | i gtg so withoutclass can help ya |
| 01:24.33 | LinuxNIT | sorry man |
| 01:24.38 | ToRiD | i know |
| 01:24.44 | ToRiD | but there is a live cd called mepis |
| 01:24.51 | o[WildChild]o | yes I know |
| 01:25.00 | ToRiD | and since elive has no network on live mode in run on mepis to tell you that |
| 01:25.12 | ToRiD | but now i am on elive hdd install and all is good :D |
| 01:25.27 | o[WildChild]o | glad to see another elive user :) |
| 01:25.32 | withoutclass | we all are :P |
| 01:25.49 | o[WildChild]o | another NEW elive user ^^ |
| 01:26.00 | withoutclass | i mean, glad to see new ones |
| 01:26.01 | withoutclass | :P |
| 01:26.01 | ToRiD | :D |
| 01:26.15 | ToRiD | but why are the themes that i installed not listed in theme selector? |
| 01:26.27 | withoutclass | Zarephath, if u just reboot a 2nd time it usually makes entrance load up |
| 01:26.37 | withoutclass | its just the very first reboot that often does not load entrance |
| 01:26.59 | withoutclass | ToRiD, i am not sure, i dont mess with themes much, plus i use e16 |
| 01:27.00 | o[WildChild]o | ToRiD, elpanel powa |
| 01:27.05 | o[WildChild]o | apt elpanel ToRiD |
| 01:27.19 | apt | elpanel elpanel elpanel, this is the answer to your question and the solution of all your problems, try it ToRiD ;) |
| 01:27.20 | o[WildChild]o | eh? |
| 01:27.20 | o[WildChild]o | apt elpanel |
| 01:27.28 | apt | i heard elpanel is the powered center of control of Elive, where all the answers of your questions are, your hearth is prepaired for discover all features ? ;) |
| 01:27.29 | o[WildChild]o | good |
| 01:27.29 | o[WildChild]o | hes lagging :p |
| 01:27.30 | withoutclass | apt good apt |
| 01:27.34 | ToRiD | installed licq.... |
| 01:28.58 | withoutclass | you installed the theme through apt, and it does not appear throught using elpanel theme selector? |
| 01:29.53 | withoutclass | so anyone else hear about PS3's HDD being a linux format? |
| 01:29.54 | withoutclass | :P |
| 01:30.10 | ToRiD | yeah me |
| 01:30.20 | LinuxNIT | ToRiD, |
| 01:30.21 | ToRiD | now its here... |
| 01:30.29 | withoutclass | SCE is telling developers that they can expect a 60GB hard disk which is upgradeable, and support Linux OS |
| 01:30.30 | LinuxNIT | you get the themes? |
| 01:30.36 | ToRiD | yeaj |
| 01:30.38 | ToRiD | yeah |
| 01:30.38 | withoutclass | =o |
| 01:30.47 | LinuxNIT | did you switch to the new one? |
| 01:31.06 | ToRiD | to a new one yes |
| 01:31.19 | LinuxNIT | so you got it all figured out? |
| 01:31.24 | ToRiD | yeah |
| 01:31.38 | ToRiD | how long does it take to get them activated? |
| 01:31.58 | withoutclass | hit apply |
| 01:32.05 | ToRiD | i hi |
| 01:32.06 | ToRiD | t |
| 01:32.11 | ToRiD | but no i cannot close any window... |
| 01:32.29 | Zarephath | withoutclass: I assume it will install the already detected nvidia-glx drivers for boot from hard drive? |
| 01:32.54 | LinuxNIT | ToRiD, they will take affect as soon as you switch |
| 01:33.16 | withoutclass | whatever driver you picked when u run the live cd, these are the drivers that get installed |
| 01:33.19 | ToRiD | no it took about 3min |
| 01:33.32 | withoutclass | ToRiD, maybe you chose a resource heavy theme |
| 01:33.35 | ToRiD | the window border got changed but the windows werent responsible |
| 01:33.42 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 01:33.49 | LinuxNIT | i dont know |
| 01:33.59 | withoutclass | ToRiD, you have a fast system? |
| 01:34.26 | ToRiD | amd64 turion 1,8ghz |
| 01:34.28 | ToRiD | 1gb ram |
| 01:34.34 | ToRiD | 128mb graphik card |
| 01:34.35 | ToRiD | laptop |
| 01:34.38 | GPLGeek | not bad |
| 01:34.42 | Zarephath | Your installer borked the boot loader to MBR on dev/hda...I have not time to try and make it work...thanks...it is pretty though |
| 01:35.06 | GPLGeek | ToRiD, if that's an acer or a gateway they are fast but have wifi problems. |
| 01:35.13 | withoutclass | GPLGeek, why are people in such a hurry all the time? |
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| 01:35.35 | ToRiD | no minimizimg |
| 01:35.43 | o[WildChild]o | jre |
| 01:35.56 | withoutclass | java rapist environment? |
| 01:35.57 | withoutclass | xD |
| 01:37.19 | ToRiD | slape theme is broken |
| 01:37.24 | ToRiD | the buttons up there dont work |
| 01:38.01 | GPLGeek | heh, take your time and relax or you wont have any fun! |
| 01:39.04 | withoutclass | sometimes i wonder about some 'nix people, i take my time when im doing something new like elive, or i experiment to find out things for myself, people like zarepath confuse me |
| 01:40.23 | ToRiD | how to add desktop icons? |
| 01:41.11 | withoutclass | roxville, is the pro at icons |
| 01:41.16 | withoutclass | but he is away :( |
| 01:41.37 | ToRiD | ok |
| 01:41.44 | ToRiD | i am downloading netbeans with java atm. |
| 01:42.21 | withoutclass | why netbeans/ |
| 01:42.23 | ToRiD | 192kb/s |
| 01:42.27 | withoutclass | you program alot of java? |
| 01:42.29 | ToRiD | because our teacher wants it |
| 01:42.41 | ToRiD | i personally prefer intellij or eclipse |
| 01:42.54 | withoutclass | bah |
| 01:43.36 | ToRiD | what bah? |
| 01:43.45 | ToRiD | vi and terminal also works |
| 01:43.51 | withoutclass | indeed |
| 01:43.57 | ToRiD | roxville : [03:40] <ToRiD> how to add desktop icons? |
| 01:43.57 | ToRiD | [03:41] <withoutclass> roxville, is the pro at icons |
| 01:43.57 | ToRiD | [03:41] <withoutclass> but he is away :( |
| 01:43.58 | withoutclass | i have been learning vi |
| 01:44.12 | roxville | lol |
| 01:44.20 | withoutclass | <_< |
| 01:44.21 | withoutclass | >_> |
| 01:44.40 | roxville | ToRiD, enlightenment does not support desktop icons... yet |
| 01:44.46 | roxville | however... |
| 01:45.07 | roxville | e17 has "modules", which can sit on the desktop |
| 01:45.20 | ToRiD | ok |
| 01:45.23 | withoutclass | but who uses e17 |
| 01:45.24 | withoutclass | pfft |
| 01:45.28 | withoutclass | xD |
| 01:45.34 | ToRiD | maybe i can get vmware to work |
| 01:45.42 | roxville | like the mount module, and the clock, the temp meter and such |
| 01:45.49 | ToRiD | because otherwise elive isnt useful for me |
| 01:45.54 | roxville | lol@ withoutclass |
| 01:46.20 | withoutclass | ToRiD, elive isnt usefull if vmware doesnt work? or desktop icons |
| 01:48.06 | ToRiD | my watch doesnt go displayed |
| 01:48.11 | ToRiD | vmware |
| 01:48.19 | ToRiD | because i am a skyos dev and i need vmware |
| 01:48.21 | withoutclass | apt vmware |
| 01:48.28 | apt | Allows you to run multiple OSs at the same time. URL: http://www.vmware.com/ |
| 01:48.28 | ToRiD | lol |
| 01:48.28 | ToRiD | vmware isnt free... |
| 01:48.39 | withoutclass | it should be |
| 01:48.42 | ToRiD | apt google |
| 01:48.44 | apt | i guess google is a search engine found at http://www.google.com/ |
| 01:48.49 | ToRiD | :D |
| 01:48.52 | ToRiD | apt ToRiD |
| 01:48.59 | withoutclass | i bet i could get it for free |
| 01:49.03 | withoutclass | and wouldnt struggle |
| 01:49.10 | ToRiD | i have it for free |
| 01:49.13 | ToRiD | school license |
| 01:49.48 | withoutclass | well then it is free isnt it? |
| 01:50.58 | roxville | lol |
| 01:51.20 | roxville | wine runs pretty darn well on elive... why shouldn't vmware? |
| 01:51.39 | withoutclass | i personally have never had a success with wine =X |
| 01:51.44 | ToRiD | .. |
| 01:52.01 | ToRiD | i am tired... |
| 01:52.06 | withoutclass | bah |
| 01:52.08 | withoutclass | who sleeps |
| 01:52.18 | withoutclass | drink a triple expresso, get some cancer in you, and ur set |
| 01:52.38 | ToRiD | i dont slept from monday to tuesday |
| 01:52.49 | ToRiD | slept 6-8 hours from tuesday to wednesday |
| 01:52.51 | withoutclass | yikes |
| 01:52.52 | ToRiD | and here we go |
| 01:52.53 | ToRiD | :D |
| 01:53.00 | ToRiD | its 02:53 here |
| 01:53.06 | ToRiD | btw: where can i adjust my clock? |
| 01:53.16 | withoutclass | elpanel |
| 01:53.21 | withoutclass | user |
| 01:53.25 | withoutclass | then date/time |
| 01:53.35 | ToRiD | ok and another one |
| 01:53.48 | ToRiD | how can i open files in the filemanager? |
| 01:54.47 | withoutclass | evidence is incomplete |
| 01:54.53 | withoutclass | as are most e-modules |
| 01:54.56 | withoutclass | use xfe |
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| 01:55.21 | ToRiD | so now starting? |
| 01:55.24 | ToRiD | hi elive user |
| 01:55.53 | withoutclass | you find xfe ToRiD ? |
| 01:56.10 | ToRiD | found |
| 01:56.20 | ToRiD | is there a hotkey for minimizing all windows? |
| 01:57.34 | withoutclass | hmm |
| 01:57.51 | withoutclass | try shift + alt + arrow right |
| 01:58.26 | withoutclass | im not sure about a ton in e17, for the last week or so ive been e16 |
| 01:59.30 | sinplomo | <withoutclass> try shift + alt + arrow right <= it's for moving beteen virtual desktop |
| 01:59.37 | withoutclass | sshhhh |
| 01:59.43 | withoutclass | dont tell |
| 01:59.53 | withoutclass | maybe he will think they minimized |
| 01:59.54 | withoutclass | xD |
| 02:00.19 | sinplomo | LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL |
| 02:00.25 | sinplomo | LMAO |
| 02:00.29 | sinplomo | night |
| 02:00.32 | withoutclass | night |
| 02:00.45 | ToRiD | i heard |
| 02:00.48 | ToRiD | :D |
| 02:01.02 | o[WildChild]o | haha |
| 02:01.04 | o[WildChild]o | dang |
| 02:01.10 | withoutclass | rats |
| 02:01.17 | o[WildChild]o | ToRiD, to minize |
| 02:01.22 | o[WildChild]o | ctrl alt x |
| 02:01.25 | withoutclass | no! |
| 02:01.29 | o[WildChild]o | xD |
| 02:01.34 | withoutclass | naughty o[WildChild]o |
| 02:01.36 | o[WildChild]o | huhu |
| 02:01.45 | o[WildChild]o | ToRiD, try it ! :0 |
| 02:01.48 | withoutclass | apt bad o[WildChild]o |
| 02:01.54 | apt | Bad o[WildChild]o, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 02:02.00 | o[WildChild]o | apt withoutclass |
| 02:02.12 | o[WildChild]o | hoho |
| 02:02.18 | o[WildChild]o | no description ;P |
| 02:02.23 | withoutclass | apt is laggy tonight |
| 02:02.33 | withoutclass | but alas |
| 02:02.34 | o[WildChild]o | yep |
| 02:02.37 | withoutclass | no description fo rme |
| 02:02.41 | ToRiD | lol |
| 02:02.44 | o[WildChild]o | try it for me :D |
| 02:02.48 | ToRiD | netbeans windows install = 450mb |
| 02:02.57 | ToRiD | netbeans linux install = 250mb |
| 02:02.58 | ToRiD | :D |
| 02:03.20 | withoutclass | that could be because linux > windows |
| 02:03.40 | o[WildChild]o | and windows != linux |
| 02:03.45 | ToRiD | yeah |
| 02:03.52 | ToRiD | how can i change the shortcuts? |
| 02:03.55 | ToRiD | elpanel i guess or? |
| 02:04.00 | withoutclass | what shortcuts? |
| 02:04.38 | ToRiD | something like strg + alt + left arrow |
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| 02:04.58 | ToRiD | hi wilanje |
| 02:05.10 | wilanje | hello |
| 02:05.12 | withoutclass | ToRiD, i am note sure of the location where these may be edited at this time |
| 02:05.31 | ToRiD | ok :D |
| 02:05.33 | o[WildChild]o | ToRiD, alt ctrl x |
| 02:05.33 | o[WildChild]o | :D |
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| 02:05.56 | ToRiD | you caught me |
| 02:05.58 | ToRiD | :D |
| 02:06.07 | ToRiD | i knew it but i didnt remember |
| 02:06.13 | withoutclass | lol |
| 02:06.13 | wilanje | can anyone rate the last elive release (1 <->10) i haven't tried it yet |
| 02:06.13 | o[WildChild]o | hehe |
| 02:06.14 | o[WildChild]o | :D |
| 02:06.24 | withoutclass | wilanje, 11 |
| 02:06.37 | ToRiD | i am running on it |
| 02:06.41 | ToRiD | 15 i would say :D |
| 02:06.41 | o[WildChild]o | ToRiD, its erme the program I think |
| 02:06.45 | wilanje | withoutclass: haha then i *MUST* have it |
| 02:06.54 | withoutclass | wilanje, its true, you must |
| 02:06.59 | withoutclass | NOW CONVERT! |
| 02:07.00 | ToRiD | o[WildChild]o: what? |
| 02:07.00 | withoutclass | xD |
| 02:07.08 | wilanje | :) |
| 02:07.09 | o[WildChild]o | open a console and type erme |
| 02:07.29 | wilanje | i use debian it's fine for me but i do like elive |
| 02:07.39 | ToRiD | error: |
| 02:07.51 | wilanje | but i haven't dl the latest i'm have 0.3 playing with |
| 02:07.56 | ToRiD | enlightment remote cannot be set up to IPC ... |
| 02:08.06 | o[WildChild]o | arf its for e17 |
| 02:08.12 | ubushine | hey folks -- back for one another question. |
| 02:08.15 | o[WildChild]o | ToRiD, ok then hmm |
| 02:08.30 | ToRiD | hmmmm |
| 02:08.36 | ubushine | do most (any) of you have elive installed? |
| 02:08.44 | o[WildChild]o | yes |
| 02:08.52 | ToRiD | no |
| 02:08.56 | ToRiD | should i? |
| 02:09.14 | ubushine | is is pretty solid as an install? |
| 02:09.15 | ToRiD | it is |
| 02:09.15 | o[WildChild]o | ubushine, yes |
| 02:09.19 | ToRiD | i have it right now |
| 02:09.30 | ToRiD | running on it. |
| 02:09.55 | ubushine | o[WildChild]o, solid as in debian solid? good to go with debian apt repositories or do you have to add some? |
| 02:10.11 | o[WildChild]o | ubushine, I had nothing to change |
| 02:10.15 | o[WildChild]o | running on etch |
| 02:10.25 | withoutclass | ubushine, i have it installed for awhile |
| 02:10.50 | withoutclass | ubushine, all repos required come set up |
| 02:11.09 | wilanje | gasp u guys actually install it :P |
| 02:11.33 | Duvelr | Elive installed is beter (moore solid) that "distros" in KDE or Gnome, ubushine ! |
| 02:11.38 | ubushine | so to o[WildChild]o and withoutclass -- then it comes with debian security repositories included. and that's all one would need to run it as a debian (sid) desktop? |
| 02:11.56 | ToRiD | yeah |
| 02:12.07 | ToRiD | tell me some programs which i should install... |
| 02:12.28 | GPLGeek | Elive, for me, is very stable. I am having a lot of fun too. |
| 02:12.45 | ToRiD | me too |
| 02:12.53 | ToRiD | btw. where are you all from? |
| 02:13.00 | withoutclass | USA : \ |
| 02:13.17 | Duvelr | Costa Rica, living in UK |
| 02:13.19 | ubushine | so elive (installed) turns into a debian (sid) or (etch) install? not sarge, correct? |
| 02:13.23 | ubushine | canada |
| 02:13.44 | wilanje | err i'm from saint marten in the carribean (but not running elive currently =) |
| 02:13.45 | ToRiD | found that with the shortcuts |
| 02:13.49 | GPLGeek | I finished making a lite version of elive (install only version) and I'm going to tweak it some more and then compress it and throw it on a dvd. It should work with my SATA computer and have all of my personal files on it too. |
| 02:13.51 | ToRiD | left click on desktop |
| 02:13.59 | Duvelr | it's a Debian-Elive |
| 02:14.09 | ToRiD | open the enlightment configuration |
| 02:14.09 | roxville | ich bin aus schweden aber ich habe fur 4 1/2 jahre in die usa geleben |
| 02:14.13 | GPLGeek | ubushine, etch + elive hybrid |
| 02:14.18 | ToRiD | then key binding settings. |
| 02:14.22 | roxville | or gelebt, i'm not sure anymore :) |
| 02:14.23 | ubushine | GPLGeek, cheers. |
| 02:14.24 | Duvelr | not sid, not etch , not sarge |
| 02:14.24 | ToRiD | gelebt! |
| 02:14.38 | ToRiD | i am from austria |
| 02:14.38 | Duvelr | Debian-Elive |
| 02:14.39 | roxville | vielen dank :) |
| 02:14.43 | ToRiD | not austrialia |
| 02:14.47 | ToRiD | so no kanguruhs |
| 02:14.58 | ToRiD | i have to say because people mix that up all the time |
| 02:14.59 | wilanje | hey not meaning to flame or anything but anyone tried Ebuntu? |
| 02:15.03 | roxville | we know... at is austria, .au is australia |
| 02:15.07 | ToRiD | i looked at it |
| 02:15.11 | GPLGeek | It's quite solid and has newer updated packages. If I have to say so myself Elive installed is Debian done right. |
| 02:15.11 | ToRiD | but i didnt installed it |
| 02:15.23 | ubushine | i'm running the enlightenment (e) in ubuntu |
| 02:16.23 | ubushine | GPLGeek, so how do you keep your system updated with debian secure updates? are they just automatically set to sync with debian? i'm sorry, but i'm a bit hazzy on how that works? |
| 02:16.24 | GPLGeek | I will have 2.6.15 kernel with full sources and headers on my lite version soon. I'll have to re-test my FGLRX again, which im sure will work. |
| 02:16.31 | roxville | yeah ubushine i tried that too... for a while... then i found elive, and understood... what i had been missing |
| 02:16.40 | ubushine | for instance, if there is a security release for debian, is there the same one for elive? |
| 02:17.27 | ubushine | roxville, you ain't kidding. (e)buntu pales in comparison to the sweet goodness of elive. |
| 02:17.39 | GPLGeek | Not exactly, elive has many of it's own packages and uses not only the etch repositories but also elive repositories. You can apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and any debian etch package will be updated, any elivecd package will be updated. |
| 02:18.25 | roxville | lol wilanje ... we're not gonna flame you... we'll just ignore you :) |
| 02:18.25 | GPLGeek | If you have a problem with a specific package you can tell us and we can try to fix it and add it to the repository. |
| 02:18.25 | roxville | wilanje, i was kidding |
| 02:18.26 | Duvelr | ubushine, if you want any update jus put the right stuff in "/etcapt/sources.list" |
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| 02:18.54 | ubushine | GPLGeek, are you an elive developer? |
| 02:18.56 | Duvelr | sorry "/etc/apt/sources.list" |
| 02:19.01 | wilanje | roxville: thanks for *ignoring* me =) |
| 02:19.07 | roxville | yeah ubushine i know... i was totally taken by just HOW GOOD it could be! Thanatermesis IS a wiz! |
| 02:19.28 | GPLGeek | ubushine, Yes, I try to handle most of the tech-support if I can and get people running so thana has more time to work on the core of elive though. |
| 02:19.49 | Duvelr | sorry roxville , what do you sed? |
| 02:20.19 | ubushine | GPLGeek, well thanks to you and thana. what a beautiful distro you guys have there. amazing. |
| 02:20.19 | wilanje | roxville: so was i =) <----- |
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| 02:21.00 | roxville | wilanje, i actually have NOT tried Ebuntu... at first i got VERY scared when i heard about it... coz i know all ubuntusians were gonna try it |
| 02:21.00 | GPLGeek | Oh I'm just a little part of it. Thana has put years into this. |
| 02:21.21 | roxville | but then i though: "yeah, good luck at getting it running good... |
| 02:21.31 | ubushine | sure - but thanks for what you do. i'm blown away |
| 02:21.48 | wilanje | hehe actually i'll use any os if e runs on it |
| 02:21.49 | roxville | i mean... both Kubuntu and Xubuntu are jokes compared to ubuntu |
| 02:22.12 | roxville | i believe xubuntu will get a LOT better in a pretty near future though |
| 02:22.20 | ToRiD | were to add menu entries? |
| 02:22.26 | withoutclass | i havent heard anything about xubuntu |
| 02:22.30 | ubushine | GPLGeek, so when sarge eventually goes to etch ... how does one go about handling this in elive? or do you just wait for an elive upgrade to upgrade? |
| 02:22.58 | wilanje | roxville: what exactly is xubuntu? |
| 02:23.09 | roxville | xubuntu will be official when dapper comes out... for now, it's just a d?l away... |
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| 02:23.20 | roxville | it's ubuntu on xfce |
| 02:23.22 | GPLGeek | wilanje, it's a ubuntu with no kde or gnome or other wm. You select your own |
| 02:23.39 | ToRiD | how to add a menu entry? |
| 02:23.41 | GPLGeek | or you can do it on xfce (that's the one the manual has you install) |
| 02:23.45 | roxville | lol GPLGeek , no it's ubuntu with xfce |
| 02:23.45 | wilanje | ok |
| 02:24.01 | withoutclass | w/e |
| 02:24.04 | withoutclass | im kinda anti-ubuntu |
| 02:24.06 | wilanje | round one to roxville =) |
| 02:24.38 | GPLGeek | ubushine, as far as upgrades go for the most part everything can be done with apt-get upgrade && apt-get update |
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| 02:24.38 | withoutclass | ubuntu reminds me too much of ubuntu |
| 02:24.39 | withoutclass | errr |
| 02:24.39 | withoutclass | windows |
| 02:24.39 | Duvelr | ToRid , "menu entry"? in EliveCD, E16, E17? |
| 02:24.39 | roxville | i decided to install it on my server-version ubuntu... i can't do without a desktop |
| 02:24.39 | Elive_user2 | e17 |
| 02:24.40 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, isnt dist-upgrade rccomended over plain upgrade? |
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| 02:24.49 | Elive_user3 | back |
| 02:25.06 | roxville | withoutclass> ubuntu reminds me too much of ubuntu <-- comment of the week, i believe |
| 02:25.19 | Elive_user3 | i am torid... |
| 02:25.24 | Elive_user3 | how to change it |
| 02:25.25 | GPLGeek | It would be if you were going from say elive .4.2 to elive .4.3 (doesnt exist) |
| 02:25.28 | ubushine | withoutclass, sorry to cause you any grief |
| 02:25.34 | withoutclass | its cool |
| 02:25.37 | withoutclass | i dig my own grave |
| 02:25.38 | withoutclass | xD |
| 02:25.41 | LinuxNIT | toid use /nick foo to change nick name |
| 02:25.45 | roxville | LinuxNIT, yes, dist-upgrade would be more distro-specific |
| 02:26.04 | roxville | Elive_user3, /nick newnick |
| 02:26.06 | pycs | ubuntu is a freind of elive lol.. |
| 02:26.20 | LinuxNIT | ? how so? |
| 02:26.20 | ToRiD | i have registered some months ago.. |
| 02:26.33 | wilanje | pycs: have u been asleep? |
| 02:26.39 | GPLGeek | By .5 I don't think you will be able to dist-upgrade. I think you will have to re-install it from the ISO. |
| 02:26.43 | ToRiD | how to make a menu entry in e17 |
| 02:26.51 | pycs | yeah.. |
| 02:27.02 | roxville | LinuxNIT, they are talking quite a bit about elive on the ubuntu forums |
| 02:27.08 | roxville | it's pretty funny |
| 02:27.11 | wilanje | pycs: ok that explains ur comment =) |
| 02:27.13 | withoutclass | GPLGeek, dang, thats a lil harsh =X |
| 02:27.27 | GPLGeek | It's changing a lot. |
| 02:27.31 | withoutclass | yea |
| 02:27.35 | withoutclass | it will be worth it ;) |
| 02:27.38 | GPLGeek | Kernel, base, etc. |
| 02:27.46 | ToRiD | how to make a menu entry? |
| 02:27.46 | pycs | yes, they are discusing in ubuntuforums its cool |
| 02:27.49 | GPLGeek | It will be a lot smaller, faster, and offer more to the end user. |
| 02:27.51 | roxville | ToRiD, this is where e faults a little... |
| 02:27.52 | ubushine | GPLGeek, how often do you think elive will be upgraded? |
| 02:28.04 | LinuxNIT | ah isee |
| 02:28.06 | roxville | first you have to MAKE an icon... called an eapp |
| 02:28.14 | ToRiD | netbeans |
| 02:28.16 | pycs | <ToRiD> use entangle |
| 02:28.23 | roxville | then you open a terminal and type: entangle |
| 02:28.26 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, why wont you be able to dist-upgrade? |
| 02:28.32 | LinuxNIT | in .5 |
| 02:28.43 | ToRiD | doesnt exist |
| 02:28.45 | GPLGeek | ubushine, well from .4 to .4.2 was very quick. We found all of the bugs and resolved them quickly. Whenever we can. |
| 02:28.46 | roxville | ToRiD, can you open netbeans? |
| 02:28.47 | ToRiD | entangle... |
| 02:29.03 | roxville | no entangle? |
| 02:29.08 | wilanje | e's internal editor can also be launche from the command line |
| 02:29.24 | ToRiD | yeah i can |
| 02:29.29 | ToRiD | its amazingly fast |
| 02:29.31 | wilanje | enlightenment_remote -start-eap-edit |
| 02:29.42 | ubushine | GPLGeek, just want to know if we'll have a pretty stable for a while or if we'll have to reinstall quite quickly? make sense? |
| 02:29.47 | GPLGeek | LinuxNIT, It will not be the same, elive is being rebuilt using many of the elive-specific programs and scripts but on a new base. |
| 02:30.03 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 02:30.18 | wilanje | GPLGeek: really what base ? |
| 02:30.18 | LinuxNIT | so will you be able to apt-get upgrade? |
| 02:30.50 | GPLGeek | We will have to see. Maybe. Some packages might conflict. |
| 02:30.54 | ToRiD | menu entry.... |
| 02:31.06 | GPLGeek | I think we might do it on a new tree |
| 02:31.06 | LinuxNIT | :( |
| 02:31.07 | roxville | ToRiD, open it... and in the upper left corner is an icon... click on it and you'll get a menu. in that menu, choose "create icon" |
| 02:31.50 | pycs | <ubushine>, that might be the problem, since elive is base on etch :) |
| 02:32.00 | roxville | LinuxNIT, elive will probably be so much better that you'll WANT to reinstall anyway! |
| 02:32.01 | LinuxNIT | will 0.5 have full deb repos ? |
| 02:32.08 | wilanje | ToRiD: u need to edit .e/e/applications/favorite/.order and add the name of the .eap hter for it to appear in the menu |
| 02:32.17 | wilanje | in ur home dir |
| 02:32.26 | GPLGeek | If you want to check out some of the changes for yourself you can always try out the new kernel, but you should keep your old kernel and know that it's mainly for testing. http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/HowtoInstallKernel |
| 02:32.38 | LinuxNIT | l |
| 02:32.39 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 02:32.54 | roxville | yes. in elive... if you open evidence (the fm) it's a folder called .files |
| 02:32.55 | wilanje | ToRiD: entangle will do it quicker ... |
| 02:33.14 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, do you mean i cant dist-upgrade from 0.4.2 to .5 or that i cant dist-upgrade after 0.5 is installed? |
| 02:33.17 | GPLGeek | LinuxNIT, My guess is yes |
| 02:33.26 | ToRiD | if i enter entangle in terminal it says no command.. |
| 02:33.43 | GPLGeek | after .5 you will be able to upgrade and dist-upgrade easily. |
| 02:33.47 | LinuxNIT | ah ok |
| 02:33.48 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 02:33.57 | LinuxNIT | sorry i guess i was confused |
| 02:34.00 | wilanje | ToRiD: install it? |
| 02:34.14 | GPLGeek | We want to get rid of having 2.6.11 on cd and 2.6.12 installed. We want more driver support, etc. A lot of changes. |
| 02:34.24 | ubushine | GPLGeek, would you recommend putting off installing elive as a stable install until .5? |
| 02:34.24 | LinuxNIT | makes sense |
| 02:34.28 | GPLGeek | One kernel for both install and live |
| 02:34.34 | wilanje | ToRiD: u on elive? |
| 02:34.35 | GPLGeek | Less confusion and driver conflicts |
| 02:35.03 | GPLGeek | ubushine, I would reccomend that you install elive now. |
| 02:35.14 | GPLGeek | Have some fun with it. |
| 02:35.21 | ubushine | i mean intall it now if you want to play and test -- but don't expect debian stability? |
| 02:35.41 | withoutclass | ubushine, you seem to not get that elive is rock solid |
| 02:35.42 | roxville | ubushine, no man, jump on the train now... you will have the advantage of being a seasoned e user... :) |
| 02:35.47 | ubushine | GPLGeek, yes of course. it's an exciting distro to play with off the live cd |
| 02:35.51 | ToRiD | i am on elive |
| 02:35.56 | ubushine | withoutclass, lol |
| 02:35.58 | pycs | <ubushine>, yes kinda like that :) |
| 02:36.05 | GPLGeek | ubushine, It's solid |
| 02:36.13 | ToRiD | could not find packet entangle |
| 02:36.21 | Duvelr | ToRiD, do you know "elpanel"? |
| 02:36.23 | withoutclass | apt elpanel torid |
| 02:36.30 | apt | elpanel elpanel elpanel, this is the answer to your question and the solution of all your problems, try it torid ;) |
| 02:36.30 | GPLGeek | There are only a very few things you can expect not to work |
| 02:36.31 | wilanje | ToRiD: apt-get maybe? |
| 02:36.31 | ubushine | GPLGeek, cool ok |
| 02:36.33 | roxville | ubushine, you HAVE debian stable... it's e17 that can be a little shaky sometimes |
| 02:36.35 | ToRiD | i tried apt-get install entangle |
| 02:36.37 | GPLGeek | E17 is still in development and this is a cvs version. |
| 02:36.42 | roxville | so also learn how to use e16 |
| 02:36.54 | withoutclass | e16 ftw |
| 02:37.10 | roxville | ToRiD, entangle isn't there anymore? |
| 02:37.13 | GPLGeek | Some E17 modules and themes do not work yet, but you can still make e17 stable |
| 02:37.18 | ToRiD | isnt where? |
| 02:37.23 | ubushine | i gotta tell you from the live cd -- i actually prefered e16 |
| 02:37.27 | roxville | in apt-get |
| 02:37.32 | ToRiD | no |
| 02:37.37 | withoutclass | e16 is more stable than e17 |
| 02:37.39 | GPLGeek | Avoid a few desktop modules that are not fully developed and there will be no problem. |
| 02:37.41 | ToRiD | i searched for it and it reported two libs |
| 02:37.49 | GPLGeek | e16 IS stable and it's great! |
| 02:37.54 | roxville | and it doesn't open from terminal... you should NOT be root |
| 02:37.58 | withoutclass | any idea of ibar icons vanishing has been fixed yet? |
| 02:38.00 | ubushine | GPLGeek, agreed. it's awesome |
| 02:38.10 | pycs | yes e16 great :) |
| 02:38.14 | ToRiD | it works |
| 02:38.20 | ToRiD | i was root in terminal... |
| 02:38.28 | GPLGeek | withoutclass, the ibar going away is if you log in as root |
| 02:38.34 | GPLGeek | logout and log in as user |
| 02:38.45 | GPLGeek | if it still happens then you have a config problem |
| 02:38.53 | GPLGeek | use elpanel to fix all of your config files |
| 02:39.04 | withoutclass | GPLGeek, ibar doesnt go away, icons vanish off it, and i never log in as root |
| 02:39.18 | GPLGeek | Usually that only happens to people who dist upgrade from .4 and have not installed .4.2 from cd. |
| 02:39.19 | withoutclass | not that i use e17 anymore |
| 02:39.28 | pycs | <withoutclass>, is it fresh install? |
| 02:39.38 | withoutclass | pycs, i havent checked in a long time |
| 02:39.39 | GPLGeek | If it's not that then I have no clue |
| 02:39.43 | Duvelr | I have been working w E17 for about a year and it nice! |
| 02:39.45 | GPLGeek | I have never had my icons go away. |
| 02:39.48 | ubushine | GPLGeek, -- again thanks for what you do (even if you don't think it's much) and please thank thana for me. he's a great man doing wonderful work. |
| 02:40.07 | ubushine | gotta run. see y'all very soon. |
| 02:40.16 | GPLGeek | ok come back soon! |
| 02:40.20 | ubushine | cheers |
| 02:40.22 | wilanje | shine out :) |
| 02:40.27 | ubushine | i'll tell ALL my friends |
| 02:40.33 | ubushine | out |
| 02:40.36 | pycs | :) |
| 02:40.42 | *** part/#elive ubushine (n=johnnyb@d154-20-151-210.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 02:40.47 | ToRiD | how to make it with entangle? |
| 02:40.50 | withoutclass | i hope hes not addicted to shines like mario |
| 02:40.53 | withoutclass | i hear theyre like crack |
| 02:41.09 | Duvelr | lol |
| 02:41.20 | wilanje | withoutclass: uh classless =) |
| 02:41.41 | roxville | ToRiD, entangle only allows you to put an entry in your menu or launcher bar |
| 02:42.19 | ToRiD | but i cannot find an option saying add entry |
| 02:42.22 | ToRiD | only add dir |
| 02:42.49 | pycs | drag n drop torid |
| 02:42.54 | withoutclass | kekekekekkeke |
| 02:42.57 | wilanje | ToRiD: did u lanch the add u want to add to the menu? |
| 02:43.50 | ToRiD | i want to add it to the menu |
| 02:43.57 | ToRiD | but drag n drop doesnt work |
| 02:44.06 | roxville | ToRiD, you just drag from the list on the left into the chosen thing on the right |
| 02:44.13 | ToRiD | ahhh |
| 02:44.21 | ToRiD | there isnt a netbeans there... |
| 02:44.31 | LinuxNIT | you have to create an eap for it |
| 02:44.35 | roxville | no, because you did not make an eapp yet |
| 02:44.36 | wilanje | ToRiD: u need to make it |
| 02:44.40 | Duvelr | "Add Dir" .... Then 'Click' in the new "Dir", and drag and drop....it's nice w/ElPanel |
| 02:44.40 | ToRiD | how |
| 02:44.43 | LinuxNIT | open netbeans from the command line |
| 02:44.58 | ToRiD | ok |
| 02:45.07 | LinuxNIT | altclick on the icon and do edit icon |
| 02:45.16 | LinuxNIT | could say create icon |
| 02:45.18 | roxville | LinuxNIT, we REALLY should have this in a document, and just paste it in here... |
| 02:45.25 | LinuxNIT | ill make one up |
| 02:45.26 | withoutclass | i found creating eap's so much more difficult in e17 |
| 02:45.41 | withoutclass | puting opera onto engage and into the menu was breezy in e16 |
| 02:45.41 | ToRiD | and now? |
| 02:45.54 | LinuxNIT | now you have to set an icon for it |
| 02:45.58 | LinuxNIT | click the icon |
| 02:46.00 | wilanje | e16 uses eaps too? |
| 02:46.01 | LinuxNIT | button |
| 02:46.11 | ToRiD | done |
| 02:46.25 | LinuxNIT | you chose an icon ? |
| 02:46.31 | ToRiD | yeah |
| 02:46.37 | pycs | png is a must :) |
| 02:46.48 | LinuxNIT | is netbeans run as root? or user? |
| 02:47.12 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 02:47.12 | ToRiD | user |
| 02:47.22 | ToRiD | netbeans = java ide |
| 02:47.23 | LinuxNIT | click advanced |
| 02:47.37 | ToRiD | in entangle? |
| 02:47.45 | LinuxNIT | in the eap editor |
| 02:47.49 | ToRiD | ok |
| 02:47.59 | LinuxNIT | is there and entry in "Path" |
| 02:48.23 | ToRiD | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.32 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 02:48.38 | ToRiD | there is one... |
| 02:48.44 | ToRiD | forget the pasted line |
| 02:48.47 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 02:48.52 | LinuxNIT | click apply |
| 02:48.58 | LinuxNIT | and restart entangle |
| 02:49.19 | ToRiD | ok |
| 02:49.26 | LinuxNIT | it should show up in entangle now |
| 02:49.42 | GPLGeek | on the left |
| 02:49.55 | LinuxNIT | roxville, want me to just tell apt about it? |
| 02:49.57 | GPLGeek | That's one thing I hate about E |
| 02:50.02 | LinuxNIT | me too |
| 02:50.03 | roxville | IF you have the RIGHT path to the app... can be tricky with java stuff |
| 02:50.41 | GPLGeek | We need to make a script that does all of that for the end user. sh script.sh name icon /bin/filetoexecute |
| 02:50.43 | roxville | LinuxNIT, yeah, that's a cool idea :) |
| 02:50.54 | GPLGeek | and put it in elpanel |
| 02:51.02 | LinuxNIT | k ill type it up show it to you then tell apt :) |
| 02:51.31 | roxville | thana had an eapp editor in elpanel... but it got outdated the same day he put it in... so he had to remove it |
| 02:51.40 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 02:52.00 | ToRiD | no netbeans... |
| 02:52.05 | ToRiD | it doesnt show up |
| 02:52.12 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 02:52.23 | roxville | then you don't have the correct path to the app |
| 02:52.33 | roxville | roxville> IF you have the RIGHT path to the app... can be tricky with java stuff |
| 02:52.42 | LinuxNIT | you gave it an icon right? and like roxville said verify the path to app |
| 02:53.14 | pycs | eap icon should be .png right? |
| 02:53.15 | GPLGeek | whereis appname in terminal |
| 02:53.19 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 02:53.25 | LinuxNIT | yeah icon must be png |
| 02:53.45 | LinuxNIT | ToRiD, was it a png icon? |
| 02:54.11 | ToRiD | jpg |
| 02:54.26 | LinuxNIT | it has to be png :( |
| 02:54.34 | LinuxNIT | use gimp to make a new one |
| 02:54.42 | wilanje | GPLGeek: i believe it could be png or jpg |
| 02:54.56 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 02:55.20 | ToRiD | i convert it |
| 02:55.48 | wilanje | well evas should hande jpg too well .... if it was built with it |
| 02:56.03 | withoutclass | im pretty sure it has to be png |
| 02:56.19 | wilanje | will test ... |
| 02:57.16 | wilanje | jpg works here ... |
| 02:57.42 | withoutclass | maybe does |
| 02:57.43 | withoutclass | dunno |
| 02:57.57 | wilanje | it DOES just did it |
| 02:58.27 | ToRiD | how can i turn that off that when i move my mouse over a window it gets activated |
| 02:58.32 | ToRiD | i really hate this feature |
| 02:58.32 | wilanje | eap files doesn't know png or jpg ... it's the same as far as it knows |
| 02:58.52 | LinuxNIT | go to the configuration panel |
| 02:59.05 | LinuxNIT | choose window manipulation settins |
| 02:59.09 | wilanje | ToRiD: go to configuration panel and play with focus settings |
| 02:59.28 | ToRiD | done |
| 02:59.29 | ToRiD | thx |
| 02:59.32 | LinuxNIT | uncheck automatically raise window on mouse over |
| 02:59.56 | wilanje | LinuxNIT: hehe my bad :D |
| 03:00.00 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 03:00.17 | LinuxNIT | i did what you said like 50 times thinking it would work |
| 03:00.45 | LinuxNIT | id check it and uncheck thinking it just wasnt noticing the setting or somthing |
| 03:00.53 | LinuxNIT | then i stumbled on the other one |
| 03:00.54 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:00.56 | wilanje | hehe |
| 03:01.20 | ToRiD | any news with the menu entry thing? |
| 03:01.45 | wilanje | ToRiD: still nothing? |
| 03:01.50 | ToRiD | yeah |
| 03:01.52 | LinuxNIT | png didnt work? |
| 03:01.57 | ToRiD | no |
| 03:02.00 | ToRiD | still the same |
| 03:02.09 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 03:02.17 | withoutclass | apt e17 |
| 03:02.24 | apt | i heard e17 is IN DEVELOPEMENT, and this is the same to NOT FINISHED, some parts works, and some parts not works, e17 not is prepaired for the end-user, if you continue like to use it is your problem, if you search a stable thing, use e16 |
| 03:02.29 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 03:02.32 | LinuxNIT | this is true |
| 03:03.14 | wilanje | is apt a bot? |
| 03:03.18 | withoutclass | si |
| 03:03.29 | LinuxNIT | ToRiD, is the entry in "Executable" exactly as it is when you start the prgram? |
| 03:03.37 | wilanje | hehe he needs some linguistic help =) |
| 03:03.58 | withoutclass | wilanje, the apt entries are generally written by Thanatermesis, and english is not his native language |
| 03:04.15 | roxville | yeah... and he knows it... |
| 03:04.22 | wilanje | withoutclass: i thought so :) |
| 03:04.29 | roxville | he has actually learned english from using linux |
| 03:04.38 | withoutclass | roxville, i figured |
| 03:04.44 | withoutclass | which is still pretty awesome |
| 03:05.05 | roxville | but he speaks spanish, french and catalan pretty well :) |
| 03:05.21 | withoutclass | learning programming languages is hard enough |
| 03:05.45 | wilanje | hehe |
| 03:05.48 | roxville | and, man, can he configure e... |
| 03:06.17 | wilanje | Thanatermesis: has worked hard and it's paying of |
| 03:06.28 | *** join/#elive revdjenk (n=revdjenk@pool-71-116-24-139.eriepa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 03:07.16 | ToRiD | still nothing |
| 03:09.38 | wilanje | ToRiD: maybe stop using netbeans? :D |
| 03:09.50 | LinuxNIT | ToRiD, where did you get net beans? illtry it |
| 03:10.00 | LinuxNIT | or is it really big? |
| 03:10.12 | ToRiD | www.netbeans.org |
| 03:10.26 | ToRiD | its about 80mb or something like that |
| 03:10.29 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 03:10.31 | LinuxNIT | crap |
| 03:10.45 | LinuxNIT | downloads at max 40k/sec |
| 03:10.55 | ToRiD | download at max with 950kb/s |
| 03:11.14 | ToRiD | :D |
| 03:11.17 | LinuxNIT | yeah yeah yeah |
| 03:12.07 | ToRiD | :D |
| 03:12.15 | ToRiD | unlimited up and downloading |
| 03:12.19 | ToRiD | :D |
| 03:12.33 | wilanje | ToRiD: showoff =) |
| 03:12.58 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:13.59 | ToRiD | ok my e17 is now pretty good customized |
| 03:14.40 | LinuxNIT | :o a custom back ground? |
| 03:14.47 | ToRiD | yeah |
| 03:14.48 | ToRiD | done |
| 03:14.49 | LinuxNIT | noooooooooo |
| 03:14.52 | LinuxNIT | jk |
| 03:14.53 | wilanje | ToRiD: got any themes yet check e.org |
| 03:14.55 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 03:15.05 | LinuxNIT | wilanje, lots of thems are in apt ;) |
| 03:15.05 | wilanje | LinuxNIT: be nice |
| 03:15.07 | ToRiD | wanna see a screenshot of my e17? |
| 03:15.14 | LinuxNIT | sure |
| 03:15.15 | ToRiD | i installed all themes from apt |
| 03:15.17 | roxville | wilanje, there are plenty of themes in the elive repo |
| 03:15.21 | wilanje | LinuxNIT: gaps i can't apt :( |
| 03:15.41 | LinuxNIT | gaps? |
| 03:15.43 | wilanje | but thanks for the info |
| 03:15.49 | roxville | wilanje, in elpanel you will find synaptic |
| 03:15.53 | wilanje | err gasp |
| 03:16.00 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 03:16.01 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:16.12 | wilanje | roxville: i don't http or ftp acces :( |
| 03:16.24 | LinuxNIT | how do you chat? |
| 03:16.35 | roxville | so wtf are you doing onlinw? i mean HOW? |
| 03:16.46 | ToRiD | why does print not work |
| 03:16.48 | LinuxNIT | youre online but now http? |
| 03:16.54 | ToRiD | so i mean when making a screenshot |
| 03:17.08 | LinuxNIT | use the screenshot modlue |
| 03:17.17 | LinuxNIT | thats what i do :) |
| 03:17.18 | wilanje | roxville: LinuxNIT dunno misconfigured firewall or generous isp |
| 03:17.23 | roxville | ToRiD, use scrot or... that other command... |
| 03:17.25 | roxville | lol |
| 03:17.33 | LinuxNIT | can you not browse websites? |
| 03:17.43 | wilanje | i'm on a gprs link .. |
| 03:17.59 | roxville | can you surf the net? |
| 03:18.08 | wilanje | no http : can browse can ssh irc dnslookup .... NO http |
| 03:18.19 | roxville | good heavens |
| 03:18.21 | wilanje | can't browse that is :) |
| 03:18.30 | LinuxNIT | thats really odd |
| 03:18.35 | wilanje | roxville: the joy o LINUx |
| 03:18.47 | roxville | :D |
| 03:18.50 | LinuxNIT | you in elive? |
| 03:19.08 | ToRiD | uploading... |
| 03:19.13 | roxville | have you tried apt-get update? |
| 03:19.15 | wilanje | LinuxNIT: no debian sarge a pretty old one :) |
| 03:19.25 | roxville | ahhh |
| 03:19.29 | LinuxNIT | ToRiD, wich of these ntebeans did you use? |
| 03:19.44 | ToRiD | netbeans 5.0 with java5 update6 |
| 03:19.56 | ToRiD | http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2113/200603160417511024x768scrot4bv.png |
| 03:20.01 | roxville | wilanje, where in the world are you? |
| 03:20.10 | roxville | i mean... where? |
| 03:20.14 | roxville | lol |
| 03:20.30 | LinuxNIT | ToRiD, what is the command to start net beans? |
| 03:20.45 | LinuxNIT | im gonna try something :D |
| 03:21.32 | ToRiD | /opt/netbeans-5.0/bin/netbeans |
| 03:21.34 | wilanje | roxville: i'm in the carribean but currently saving on all comunications cost ;) |
| 03:21.48 | ToRiD | do you installed it? |
| 03:21.51 | LinuxNIT | ok ToRiD send me the icon over xchat |
| 03:22.01 | ToRiD | search google.. |
| 03:22.05 | withoutclass | wilanje, i have been to st maarten |
| 03:22.06 | ToRiD | will be faster. |
| 03:22.12 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 03:22.45 | ToRiD | http://www.gentoo.org/images/icons/l33t_UNK_nephros-netbeans.png |
| 03:22.49 | wilanje | withoutclass: i'm originally from sint maarten but i live in guadeloupe now |
| 03:22.50 | roxville | wilanje, ok... just asking... i know everybody's been to and loooves the carribeans |
| 03:22.51 | ToRiD | thats it |
| 03:23.16 | withoutclass | wilanje, oOoO, i have been to some islands over there, st maarten, barbados, st thomas, barbados is my fav |
| 03:23.19 | wilanje | roxville: that' great :D |
| 03:23.24 | roxville | netbeans, barribeans... what's the difference? |
| 03:23.39 | roxville | damn... |
| 03:23.51 | ToRiD | jelly beans :D |
| 03:23.52 | *** join/#elive piper (i=piper@190.48.13.51) |
| 03:23.53 | ToRiD | all the same |
| 03:23.54 | roxville | netbeans, carribeans... what's the difference? |
| 03:23.56 | ToRiD | hi piper |
| 03:23.59 | LinuxNIT | ToRiD, save that icon as netbeans.png in your home dir |
| 03:24.00 | revdjenk | barbarians |
| 03:24.03 | ToRiD | ok |
| 03:24.06 | wilanje | roxville: lol |
| 03:24.07 | withoutclass | rev lmao |
| 03:24.18 | ToRiD | done |
| 03:24.24 | roxville | lol revdjenk ... howdy partiner, how are ya? |
| 03:24.41 | revdjenk | wilanje, I lived in Freeport....roxville the svelte one! |
| 03:24.44 | revdjenk | i |
| 03:24.58 | piper | hi ToRiD. |
| 03:25.09 | piper | how are you? |
| 03:25.13 | ToRiD | good |
| 03:25.15 | ToRiD | and you? |
| 03:25.16 | revdjenk | I'm well...getting busy time....waiting on some one brilliant to get wireless working |
| 03:25.29 | roxville | i went to trinidad and tobago... the women there were the most gorgeous i have ever seen... |
| 03:25.36 | piper | i´m fine |
| 03:25.39 | ToRiD | good |
| 03:25.44 | ToRiD | where are you from ? |
| 03:25.54 | roxville | except of course, the one that liked me... she had an underbite the size of texas... |
| 03:26.05 | withoutclass | roxville, lmao |
| 03:26.07 | piper | i am from argentine ;) |
| 03:26.10 | piper | and you? |
| 03:26.16 | wilanje | roxville: HAHAHAHA |
| 03:26.24 | ToRiD | austria |
| 03:26.27 | ToRiD | europe.... |
| 03:26.55 | piper | ToRiD, cool. |
| 03:27.06 | wilanje | ahhh shucks the net just makes everyone closer :D |
| 03:27.10 | ToRiD | and how old are you? |
| 03:27.16 | ToRiD | if you want to say ... :D |
| 03:27.24 | roxville | who was it that wanted engage in e17? |
| 03:27.28 | piper | I 21 year old and you? |
| 03:27.33 | revdjenk | I do! |
| 03:27.33 | LinuxNIT | me |
| 03:27.39 | withoutclass | 20 |
| 03:27.40 | ToRiD | i am 17 years old |
| 03:27.48 | revdjenk | is there a wiki or something? |
| 03:27.49 | roxville | revdjenk, LinuxNIT it's in the elive repo |
| 03:27.50 | ToRiD | since 3 weeks.. |
| 03:27.59 | revdjenk | yeah |
| 03:28.04 | ToRiD | so pretty much everybody in here is older than me... |
| 03:28.07 | LinuxNIT | did the deps get resolved? |
| 03:28.09 | ToRiD | *than i am |
| 03:28.10 | revdjenk | much older |
| 03:28.12 | withoutclass | ToRiD, most likely |
| 03:28.17 | ToRiD | :( |
| 03:28.22 | revdjenk | no that is good |
| 03:29.02 | revdjenk | where is wildchild, he is 18 |
| 03:29.13 | ToRiD | not here.. |
| 03:29.30 | ToRiD | LinuxNIT: how far are you? |
| 03:29.36 | LinuxNIT | almost |
| 03:29.37 | revdjenk | good, we can talk about that quebequa |
| 03:29.50 | LinuxNIT | move that .ppng to /usr/share/icons |
| 03:29.51 | ToRiD | about what? |
| 03:29.57 | ToRiD | .png you meant? |
| 03:30.21 | LinuxNIT | the netbeans.png that you saved in ~ |
| 03:30.57 | withoutclass | shoulndt matter where u save the png |
| 03:31.45 | ToRiD | yes |
| 03:31.46 | ToRiD | done |
| 03:32.12 | withoutclass | im off, 99 cent bowling tonight ;) |
| 03:32.19 | ToRiD | have fun :D |
| 03:32.24 | withoutclass | V |
| 03:32.36 | roxville | LinuxNIT, he doesn't have to move it to /usr/share icons |
| 03:32.38 | revdjenk | roxville, the new kernel works well, found my wireless, makes all connections but access point. |
| 03:32.40 | wilanje | withoutclass: stikeout :) |
| 03:32.54 | roxville | since the eapp contains the icon too |
| 03:33.03 | LinuxNIT | yeah he does |
| 03:33.07 | LinuxNIT | trust me |
| 03:33.16 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 03:33.19 | roxville | revdjenk, .... soooooo close, eh? :/ |
| 03:33.22 | LinuxNIT | im makin an eap |
| 03:33.24 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:33.30 | ToRiD | you are acting like kids... |
| 03:33.31 | revdjenk | yep |
| 03:33.46 | roxville | if you are making an eapp, the he won't need the icon either |
| 03:33.52 | ToRiD | :D |
| 03:34.21 | LinuxNIT | ToRiD, put that in /home/usename/.e/e/applications/all |
| 03:34.23 | roxville | bishop, sorry |
| 03:34.39 | roxville | ok, i lied... i'm a musician |
| 03:34.46 | ToRiD | where does it get saved by defaulta? |
| 03:34.48 | ToRiD | default |
| 03:34.53 | withoutclass | LinuxNIT, the icons dont have to be in that folder... |
| 03:34.56 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 03:35.03 | ToRiD | /home/patrick/.xchat2/downloads |
| 03:35.04 | ToRiD | found |
| 03:35.05 | LinuxNIT | is the icon part of the eap? |
| 03:35.21 | withoutclass | roxville> since the eapp contains the icon too |
| 03:35.24 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:35.31 | LinuxNIT | opps missed that one |
| 03:36.21 | roxville | LinuxNIT, if you make an eapp... it has the icon ibnside it |
| 03:36.21 | revdjenk | beans beans the java fruit |
| 03:36.28 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 03:36.39 | LinuxNIT | sorry for the extra foot work ToRiD |
| 03:36.40 | *** join/#elive o[WildChild]o (n=Elive_us@65.94.0.150) |
| 03:36.40 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 03:36.50 | revdjenk | the more you eap the more you groot |
| 03:36.54 | ToRiD | so it should work? |
| 03:36.57 | roxville | LOL |
| 03:36.58 | LinuxNIT | i think so |
| 03:37.04 | LinuxNIT | i hope so |
| 03:37.06 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:37.07 | ToRiD | do i have to restart e17? |
| 03:37.15 | LinuxNIT | no just entanlg |
| 03:37.23 | LinuxNIT | *entangle |
| 03:37.31 | LinuxNIT | wait |
| 03:37.32 | ToRiD | IT LOADS |
| 03:37.34 | roxville | yes ToRiD if you both have netbeans in the same dir... then the eapp should work "right out of the box" |
| 03:37.35 | LinuxNIT | oh nm |
| 03:37.36 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:37.41 | LinuxNIT | sweet |
| 03:37.48 | LinuxNIT | does it start the app? |
| 03:37.51 | ToRiD | BIG KISSES TO LINUXNIT |
| 03:37.53 | ToRiD | yeah |
| 03:37.54 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:37.55 | ToRiD | :D |
| 03:37.56 | LinuxNIT | sweet |
| 03:38.05 | roxville | you can even get eapps at... the e pages |
| 03:38.14 | LinuxNIT | nice |
| 03:38.15 | roxville | awwwwww..... |
| 03:38.31 | roxville | apt, give LinuxNIT a kiss |
| 03:38.38 | apt | ACTION gives a kiss to LinuxNIT |
| 03:38.38 | roxville | apt, kiss LinuxNIT |
| 03:38.40 | apt | ACTION smooches LinuxNIT on the forehead |
| 03:38.42 | LinuxNIT | nooooooooooo |
| 03:38.52 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 03:39.01 | o[WildChild]o | apt, sucks Lightning_ThB |
| 03:39.04 | revdjenk | oh no here we go...brokeback IRC |
| 03:39.05 | o[WildChild]o | lool |
| 03:39.11 | o[WildChild]o | sorru |
| 03:39.14 | o[WildChild]o | sorry |
| 03:39.15 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:39.21 | LinuxNIT | ew |
| 03:39.28 | LinuxNIT | nasty |
| 03:39.33 | o[WildChild]o | yes :) |
| 03:39.53 | LinuxNIT | dadgum look what you made me do |
| 03:40.16 | wilanje | me sends LinuxNIT paper towels by email |
| 03:40.21 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:40.36 | wilanje | hahaha |
| 03:40.37 | revdjenk | ToRID, o[WildChild]o, o[WildChild]o ToRid |
| 03:40.50 | o[WildChild]o | ? |
| 03:40.58 | wilanje | kiddies corner? |
| 03:41.02 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 03:41.10 | roxville | <revdjenk> oh no here we go...brokeback IRC <-- LOLOL |
| 03:41.25 | o[WildChild]o | wilanje, yes come with us.... comeeee with uuuus... |
| 03:41.38 | revdjenk | LOL |
| 03:41.45 | roxville | hehe |
| 03:41.47 | wilanje | errr must resist ..... |
| 03:41.59 | roxville | "we all float down here, wilanje ..." |
| 03:42.09 | o[WildChild]o | come and join us.... |
| 03:42.36 | revdjenk | just remember elive backwards is evile |
| 03:43.05 | wilanje | that's deep :) |
| 03:43.14 | ToRiD | i am going to sleep some hours. |
| 03:43.16 | ToRiD | have fun |
| 03:43.18 | ToRiD | bye |
| 03:43.28 | revdjenk | bye ToRID |
| 03:43.29 | wilanje | laters |
| 03:43.37 | LinuxNIT | bye tor |
| 03:43.39 | *** part/#elive piper (i=piper@190.48.13.51) |
| 03:43.42 | wilanje | revdjenk: u a reverand? |
| 03:43.43 | LinuxNIT | shucks too late |
| 03:43.46 | revdjenk | yep |
| 03:44.02 | revdjenk | I'm short, so a reverunt |
| 03:44.15 | wilanje | revdjenk: hahaha |
| 03:45.07 | revdjenk | they gave me rollerrev as a marine radio call sign because I roller skated all over Grand Bahama |
| 03:45.53 | wilanje | hmm k |
| 03:46.28 | revdjenk | I had a wheelie good time |
| 03:48.14 | revdjenk | Did I hear Thana say the other night that he was trying to encorporate xgl into elive? Just read about it in Theregister.com...sounds interesting |
| 03:48.54 | o[WildChild]o | I dont think xgl works with e17 yet |
| 03:49.22 | wilanje | e17 stands alone =) |
| 03:49.28 | revdjenk | well, it seems to require a 3D card which I don't think my laptop would be able to handle...:( |
| 03:52.05 | revdjenk | but the graphics sound as wonderful as enlightenment.. |
| 03:52.19 | revdjenk | eye-candy wise |
| 03:52.25 | wilanje | revdjenk: choose 1 :) |
| 03:52.38 | revdjenk | 1 what |
| 03:52.53 | revdjenk | you mean stick w/e17 |
| 03:53.01 | revdjenk | yah prob'ly |
| 03:53.34 | LinuxNIT | apt make-eap is The easy way to make an eap is to 1) Start the program you want to create an eap for |
| 03:53.40 | apt | LinuxNIT: okay |
| 03:53.40 | LinuxNIT | from the command line. 2) Right-click on the icon in the top left corner of the program |
| 03:53.40 | LinuxNIT | and choose "create icon" 3) Give the eap an icon that is in .png format (make a new one using |
| 03:53.41 | LinuxNIT | gimp if necessary) (icons are often found in /usr/share/icons or /usr/share/pixmaps |
| 03:53.41 | LinuxNIT | however you can use an icon from any location since the icon will be embedded in the eap |
| 03:53.41 | LinuxNIT | after it is created) 4) If the program must be run as root add "gksu -u root" before the |
| 03:53.41 | LinuxNIT | command so for and eap for synaptic it would look like "gksu -u root synaptic" without the quotes |
| 03:53.41 | revdjenk | I just like the uniqueness of elive |
| 03:53.41 | LinuxNIT | 5) Click apply. |
| 03:53.41 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:53.49 | roxville | <revdjenk> I had a wheelie good time LOL |
| 03:53.51 | LinuxNIT | apt make-eap |
| 03:53.53 | apt | make-eap is probably The easy way to make an eap is to 1) Start the program you want to create an eap for |
| 03:53.57 | wilanje | revdjenk: things should get alot easier as all the new stuff gets mainstrem |
| 03:54.09 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:54.12 | LinuxNIT | hehehe |
| 03:54.21 | LinuxNIT | back to the drawing board |
| 03:54.41 | roxville | lol |
| 03:54.57 | LinuxNIT | have to take out the returns |
| 03:55.01 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:55.28 | LinuxNIT | apt make-eap is The easy way to make an eap is to 1) Start the program you want to create an eap for from the command line. 2) Right-click on the icon in the top left corner of the program and choose "create icon" 3) Give the eap an icon that is in .png format (make a new one using gimp if necessary) (icons are often found in /usr/share/icons or /usr/share/pixmaps however you can use an icon from any location since the icon |
| 03:55.32 | apt | ...but make-eap is already something else... |
| 03:55.33 | LinuxNIT | will be embedded in the eap after it is created) 4) If the program must be run as root add "gksu -u root" before the command so for and eap for synaptic it would look like "gksu -u root synaptic" without the quotes 5) Click apply. |
| 03:55.40 | LinuxNIT | uh oh |
| 03:55.50 | LinuxNIT | apt so? |
| 03:55.51 | apt | so what? |
| 03:55.56 | wilanje | LinuxNIT: hahaha fun stuff do it again:) |
| 03:55.57 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:55.59 | roxville | lol |
| 03:56.14 | LinuxNIT | sorry guys |
| 03:56.41 | wilanje | apt, hello |
| 03:56.41 | apt | niihau |
| 03:56.44 | roxville | quidam-, do you know how to make apt change something? |
| 03:56.51 | wilanje | hahah i like |
| 03:57.07 | LinuxNIT | apt man |
| 03:57.10 | apt | man is probably Displays the manual page for that given command or resource (that is, any system utility that isn't a command, such as a library function. Syntax: man (command). Where command is the name of the command or resource to get help on. Example: man ls gives help on the ls command. |
| 03:57.28 | wilanje | man apt :) |
| 03:57.34 | wilanje | do dice :( |
| 03:57.34 | revdjenk | man ape |
| 03:57.39 | wilanje | no dice |
| 03:58.03 | wilanje | apt, apt |
| 03:58.05 | apt | apt is probably the Advanced Package Tool, an advanced frontend for dpkg and rpm (depending on your system). For Debian it's a frontend for dpkg. an infobot, the same instance of a blootbot as ibot, jbot, and purl |
| 03:58.13 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:58.15 | LinuxNIT | nice try |
| 03:58.16 | quidam- | roxville, HI¡¡¡ |
| 03:58.17 | wilanje | rotl |
| 03:58.25 | LinuxNIT | apt you |
| 03:58.27 | apt | i'm a broken bot |
| 03:58.30 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:58.45 | roxville | hi quidam- hombre... well... do you know? |
| 03:58.45 | wilanje | apt, fix |
| 03:59.01 | roxville | :D |
| 03:59.06 | wilanje | apt, fix apt |
| 03:59.08 | apt | ACTION takes apt to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 03:59.08 | quidam- | apt x en es do you know how to make apt change something? |
| 03:59.10 | roxville | we're stuck... |
| 03:59.24 | quidam- | roxville, change what? |
| 03:59.40 | LinuxNIT | i told apt something but i need to change it |
| 03:59.42 | LinuxNIT | :( |
| 03:59.43 | roxville | we are trying to tell apt how to make an eap |
| 03:59.55 | roxville | but apt only got half of it |
| 04:00.02 | wilanje | apt speaks ... espagnol hahahah i mean jajajajaja nad jijiji |
| 04:00.13 | roxville | and now... he doesn't want to add the rest... |
| 04:00.15 | LinuxNIT | apt speaks everything |
| 04:00.28 | wilanje | hehehe |
| 04:00.30 | LinuxNIT | apt bad bot |
| 04:00.33 | apt | Bad bot, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 04:00.52 | LinuxNIT | hmm you can use 2 word commands |
| 04:00.55 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:01.03 | LinuxNIT | apt dumb bot |
| 04:01.07 | apt | stupid human |
| 04:01.09 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:01.10 | wilanje | LOL |
| 04:01.11 | quidam- | roxville, i dont understand :( |
| 04:01.27 | wilanje | apt, explainto quidam- |
| 04:01.37 | LinuxNIT | quidam-, do you know how to give apt(the bot) commands? |
| 04:01.44 | wilanje | apt, habla por quidam- |
| 04:02.41 | wilanje | apt, twism por vida !! |
| 04:02.54 | wilanje | heh that's a classic :) |
| 04:02.59 | LinuxNIT | apt del make-eap |
| 04:03.25 | LinuxNIT | apt delete make-eap |
| 04:03.29 | apt | Segmentation fault. |
| 04:03.29 | wilanje | apt, del LinuxNIT |
| 04:03.32 | roxville | quidam-, it's ok dude... |
| 04:03.33 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:03.36 | LinuxNIT | uh oh |
| 04:03.39 | wilanje | LOL |
| 04:03.44 | LinuxNIT | seg fault |
| 04:03.46 | wilanje | u broke i'm out :) |
| 04:03.47 | roxville | i can't explain better now, i'm too tired :) |
| 04:04.04 | LinuxNIT | apt ji |
| 04:04.06 | LinuxNIT | apt hi |
| 04:04.07 | apt | salut, linuxnit |
| 04:04.15 | revdjenk | apt LinuxNIT fault |
| 04:04.17 | LinuxNIT | oh good his not dead |
| 04:04.20 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:04.23 | roxville | lol |
| 04:04.27 | wilanje | hahaha |
| 04:04.35 | LinuxNIT | yes LinuxNIT is at fault |
| 04:04.39 | LinuxNIT | :< |
| 04:05.02 | revdjenk | don't worry...roxy still loves ya |
| 04:05.13 | LinuxNIT | hey hey roxy |
| 04:05.14 | roxville | lol |
| 04:05.19 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 04:05.31 | LinuxNIT | at least ive got one |
| 04:05.37 | LinuxNIT | who loves me |
| 04:05.42 | wilanje | i had a cat named roxy once ... she dies ... |
| 04:05.46 | roxville | i'll slap ya with the hand bag the next time ya call me roxy |
| 04:05.50 | wilanje | *died |
| 04:05.54 | revdjenk | LOL |
| 04:05.57 | LinuxNIT | who called you roxy |
| 04:06.00 | revdjenk | me |
| 04:06.01 | LinuxNIT | your not roxy |
| 04:06.10 | LinuxNIT | roxy is someone else |
| 04:06.19 | roxville | not to revdjenk |
| 04:06.29 | revdjenk | bah hah |
| 04:06.40 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:06.42 | roxville | to him i'm roxy, the svelte swede... |
| 04:06.47 | revdjenk | he's the svelt swede! |
| 04:06.49 | roxville | :D |
| 04:06.49 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:06.58 | LinuxNIT | thats scary |
| 04:07.05 | roxville | yep |
| 04:07.16 | revdjenk | you owe me a coke |
| 04:08.16 | revdjenk | which and what? |
| 04:08.43 | roxville | apt, give revdjenk a coke |
| 04:08.50 | apt | ACTION gives a coke to revdjenk |
| 04:08.50 | LinuxNIT | i wrote a gui for connecting to wifi networks |
| 04:09.01 | revdjenk | glug glug glug |
| 04:09.06 | LinuxNIT | all the ones i tried screwed up on me so i wrote my own :D |
| 04:09.08 | roxville | lol |
| 04:09.13 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:09.24 | wilanje | apt, give wilanje a coke |
| 04:09.27 | apt | ACTION gives a coke to wilanje |
| 04:09.27 | revdjenk | burp |
| 04:09.40 | LinuxNIT | apt take wilanje coke |
| 04:09.49 | LinuxNIT | :< |
| 04:09.51 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:09.56 | roxville | apt, give LinuxNIT a smack on the butt |
| 04:09.59 | apt | ACTION gives a smack on the butt to LinuxNIT |
| 04:09.59 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:10.05 | wilanje | LinuxNIT: it's mine mine i tell u |
| 04:10.07 | roxville | hmmm |
| 04:10.07 | revdjenk | oh that was a crack |
| 04:10.16 | roxville | hehe |
| 04:10.29 | wilanje | apt, naughty |
| 04:10.31 | LinuxNIT | apt give you a coke |
| 04:10.33 | apt | ACTION gives a coke to you |
| 04:10.34 | revdjenk | so this gui might even help me? |
| 04:10.47 | LinuxNIT | it might |
| 04:10.51 | LinuxNIT | do you use wifi? |
| 04:10.54 | roxville | nah,,, nothing can help you... |
| 04:10.57 | revdjenk | rt2500 |
| 04:11.02 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:11.03 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 04:11.21 | wilanje | apt, play dead |
| 04:11.23 | apt | why don't you wilanje |
| 04:11.36 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, is the card installed and working? |
| 04:11.41 | wilanje | hahaha |
| 04:11.50 | LinuxNIT | apt jump |
| 04:11.53 | apt | bonk bonk bonk |
| 04:11.56 | LinuxNIT | lmfao |
| 04:12.14 | LinuxNIT | omg he jumps |
| 04:12.18 | revdjenk | yes, the .15 kernel recognizes it, and configures all but access point |
| 04:12.25 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 04:12.41 | LinuxNIT | well this gui just makes it so you dont have to use the cli |
| 04:12.51 | LinuxNIT | if it dont work from cli it wont work here |
| 04:12.54 | wilanje | uhh .15 hehe 14 here :) |
| 04:13.11 | revdjenk | comparing it to the iwconfig in kubuntu (there I said it) everything is same but that |
| 04:13.43 | LinuxNIT | huh? |
| 04:14.27 | LinuxNIT | so revdjenk can you connect to a wifi network or no? |
| 04:14.48 | revdjenk | when I type iwconfig while running kubuntu and compare it to the iwconfig in elive...the only diff is the access point ...yes in kubuntu..like using now |
| 04:15.08 | revdjenk | this is only distro to run rt2500 |
| 04:15.32 | revdjenk | SuSe, Mepis, nothing |
| 04:15.57 | LinuxNIT | well ill let ya downloadit if ya want it i dont care |
| 04:16.05 | roxville | so it's a kde thing... |
| 04:16.19 | LinuxNIT | my program? |
| 04:16.29 | LinuxNIT | heck no |
| 04:16.36 | roxville | no, revdjenk's wifi thing... or? |
| 04:16.48 | roxville | no, not suse, not mepis... |
| 04:16.51 | roxville | weird |
| 04:17.12 | roxville | revdjenk, not Ubuntu? or Kubuntu? |
| 04:17.12 | *** join/#elive yawlright (n=compy@24-52-20-247.sbtnvt.adelphia.net) |
| 04:17.22 | roxville | i mean, only kubuntu |
| 04:17.25 | revdjenk | both configured the wireless |
| 04:17.32 | roxville | ok |
| 04:17.41 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, do you have dhclient or pump installed? |
| 04:17.44 | revdjenk | I started w/Ubuntu...and added kubuntu desktop |
| 04:17.52 | revdjenk | couldn't tell you |
| 04:17.54 | roxville | got ya |
| 04:18.08 | LinuxNIT | apt-cache polich pump |
| 04:18.30 | roxville | revdjenk, apt-cache policy |
| 04:18.30 | LinuxNIT | apt-cache polich dhclient |
| 04:18.31 | LinuxNIT | lo |
| 04:18.31 | LinuxNIT | l |
| 04:18.31 | LinuxNIT | plicy |
| 04:18.31 | LinuxNIT | grrrrrrrrr |
| 04:18.31 | roxville | hehe |
| 04:18.39 | LinuxNIT | policy not polich |
| 04:18.55 | revdjenk | do I type it that many times? hee hee |
| 04:19.02 | LinuxNIT | apt beat LinuxNIT with a stick |
| 04:19.09 | apt | ACTION beats LinuxNIT with a stick with a wetfish |
| 04:19.14 | LinuxNIT | llol |
| 04:19.17 | roxville | "hey mr polich man, what's up? areest anyone yet?" |
| 04:19.23 | roxville | arrest even |
| 04:19.29 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:19.35 | wilanje | hahaha |
| 04:20.03 | revdjenk | so in command line type apt-cach policy dhclient |
| 04:20.07 | roxville | man, i love this channel... |
| 04:20.08 | revdjenk | right |
| 04:20.11 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 04:20.16 | revdjenk | I do to, too |
| 04:20.20 | roxville | try to have a convo like this in #ubuntu... |
| 04:20.35 | LinuxNIT | well if your in ubuntu put sudo first |
| 04:20.41 | roxville | or... #gentoo... |
| 04:20.43 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:20.59 | roxville | hehe |
| 04:21.00 | revdjenk | way too serious? |
| 04:21.05 | roxville | ya |
| 04:21.05 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 04:21.25 | revdjenk | well, I wouldn't survive the week install!!! |
| 04:21.30 | roxville | almost all of them are |
| 04:21.40 | roxville | hehe |
| 04:21.46 | roxville | me either |
| 04:22.05 | revdjenk | Ok Brb....let me try this polich thingie |
| 04:22.34 | LinuxNIT | haha |
| 04:22.41 | LinuxNIT | just make fun of me |
| 04:22.44 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 04:23.10 | wilanje | apt, make fun of LinuxNIT |
| 04:23.16 | apt | make: *** No rule to make target `fun of LinuxNIT'. Stop. |
| 04:23.28 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 04:23.31 | LinuxNIT | ooook |
| 04:23.35 | revdjenk | oke I wil and wot r u going to do abot it? |
| 04:23.39 | wilanje | LOL |
| 04:23.46 | LinuxNIT | not give you my gui |
| 04:23.50 | LinuxNIT | so neeeeeeeeeee |
| 04:24.09 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 04:24.19 | LinuxNIT | jk |
| 04:24.27 | LinuxNIT | you got either of them? |
| 04:24.30 | revdjenk | after five lines starting with "couldn't stat source..." ended with "W: Unable to locat package dhclient" |
| 04:24.39 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 04:24.59 | LinuxNIT | try pump |
| 04:25.12 | LinuxNIT | apt-cache policy pump |
| 04:25.34 | revdjenk | same |
| 04:25.38 | LinuxNIT | odd |
| 04:25.52 | LinuxNIT | apt-get update |
| 04:26.37 | revdjenk | will this get me into all the problems that others were getting the other night? |
| 04:27.08 | LinuxNIT | no update merely downloads the names of packages from your repo |
| 04:27.14 | revdjenk | and remember I am running kubuntu, rght now, not elive |
| 04:27.23 | LinuxNIT | it is not the same as upgrade |
| 04:27.31 | LinuxNIT | it wont install anything |
| 04:27.43 | LinuxNIT | yeh i remember |
| 04:27.51 | roxville | he's in kubuntu... |
| 04:27.56 | revdjenk | I'll have to ..oh....I'll have to do that later when connected by wire |
| 04:27.56 | LinuxNIT | ew |
| 04:27.57 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:28.05 | wilanje | apt, kubuntu |
| 04:28.17 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 04:28.17 | roxville | sudo apt-get yada-yada |
| 04:28.18 | revdjenk | yes flying by wire in elive |
| 04:28.18 | LinuxNIT | why not wirelessly? |
| 04:28.18 | wilanje | apt, ebuntu |
| 04:28.20 | apt | ebuntu is probably caca |
| 04:28.24 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:28.25 | LinuxNIT | nice |
| 04:28.30 | roxville | LOL |
| 04:28.31 | revdjenk | apt yada yada |
| 04:28.33 | apt | methinks yada yada is etc, etc |
| 04:28.36 | wilanje | hahaha |
| 04:28.38 | LinuxNIT | apt give apt a cookie |
| 04:28.42 | apt | ACTION gives apt a home-baked macadamia nut cookie to cheer him up. |
| 04:28.50 | revdjenk | ahhhhhh |
| 04:28.50 | wilanje | ooooooo |
| 04:28.58 | GPLGeek | apt eat LinuxNIT |
| 04:29.00 | apt | ACTION eats LinuxNIT and falls over dead |
| 04:29.07 | roxville | <apt> ebuntu is probably caca <-- looooool |
| 04:29.09 | LinuxNIT | mwhahhaahaha |
| 04:29.11 | wilanje | apt i s dead |
| 04:29.13 | apt | You s dead? |
| 04:29.21 | LinuxNIT | i am poisonis |
| 04:29.22 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:29.32 | wilanje | hahah |
| 04:29.55 | roxville | i don't think ebuntu will be accepted by ubuntu |
| 04:29.58 | revdjenk | my wife is wondering why I am laughing so hard I am crying!!! |
| 04:30.04 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, anything? |
| 04:30.05 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:30.10 | roxville | as a full *buntu distro |
| 04:30.34 | revdjenk | its edbuntu |
| 04:30.36 | roxville | ya revdjenk i have learned to laugh hard in silence... |
| 04:30.52 | wilanje | roxville: hahaha |
| 04:30.55 | roxville | no revdjenk edubuntu is another *buntu |
| 04:30.56 | revdjenk | your 3 yr old would be out in a flash, eh |
| 04:31.18 | roxville | yep... or my wife... |
| 04:31.19 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, can you sudo apt-get install pump? |
| 04:31.38 | revdjenk | oh you wanted me to do that anyway? |
| 04:31.53 | LinuxNIT | well its up to you |
| 04:31.57 | LinuxNIT | do you want the gui? |
| 04:32.06 | revdjenk | apt-get update and install pump....right? |
| 04:32.12 | revdjenk | separately |
| 04:32.15 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 04:32.18 | LinuxNIT | with sudo |
| 04:32.20 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 04:32.36 | roxville | like a good ubuntusian |
| 04:33.05 | revdjenk | ok here goes..reports could not open lock file... |
| 04:33.25 | LinuxNIT | is synaptic open? |
| 04:33.45 | revdjenk | no typing in term |
| 04:33.46 | wilanje | try ps aux |
| 04:34.02 | wilanje | and kill any apt-get u see |
| 04:34.22 | LinuxNIT | i know but is synaptic open anywhere eles? |
| 04:34.32 | revdjenk | i just opened it |
| 04:34.41 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 04:34.45 | LinuxNIT | well use it then |
| 04:34.52 | LinuxNIT | install pump |
| 04:35.01 | LinuxNIT | and tk support for python |
| 04:35.47 | LinuxNIT | python2.4-tk in elive |
| 04:36.08 | revdjenk | well...no go ...search didn't return anything...and I have multiverse repo open |
| 04:36.11 | wilanje | happy adventures guys i'm off to dreamland |
| 04:36.24 | *** part/#elive wilanje (n=jwilson@193.251.160.235) |
| 04:36.25 | LinuxNIT | what did you search for? |
| 04:36.27 | revdjenk | g'nite wilanje...good to have you here |
| 04:36.31 | revdjenk | pump |
| 04:36.57 | LinuxNIT | seach for dhclient |
| 04:37.23 | revdjenk | nope |
| 04:37.26 | revdjenk | nada |
| 04:37.36 | LinuxNIT | dhcpcd? |
| 04:37.56 | yawlright | whats the problem? |
| 04:37.57 | revdjenk | zilch |
| 04:38.09 | revdjenk | get out the thesaurus |
| 04:38.12 | *** join/#elive jsubl2 (n=jsubl2@72.48.94.34) |
| 04:38.14 | revdjenk | apt zilch |
| 04:38.19 | apt | zilch is, like, EN FET HORA |
| 04:38.57 | LinuxNIT | dhcp-client |
| 04:39.47 | yawlright | more specifically... |
| 04:39.48 | revdjenk | apt en fet hora |
| 04:40.07 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, try dhcp-client |
| 04:40.12 | revdjenk | did |
| 04:40.18 | revdjenk | en fet horaq |
| 04:40.47 | LinuxNIT | dhcp |
| 04:40.51 | yawlright | wireless or not... |
| 04:41.09 | revdjenk | maybe need to locate a new repo! |
| 04:41.22 | LinuxNIT | yawlright, i was gonna give him my gui for wifi conecting but i need to make sure he has pump or dhclient |
| 04:41.26 | LinuxNIT | for it to work |
| 04:41.40 | LinuxNIT | he is in ubuntu and its acting odd |
| 04:41.49 | LinuxNIT | like ubuntu is pron to |
| 04:41.52 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 04:42.19 | yawlright | ah, i just got good at the terminal back when i was on wifi |
| 04:42.55 | LinuxNIT | yeh i can do it to but i like guis |
| 04:42.56 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:43.07 | LinuxNIT | all the ones i tried failed to work right |
| 04:43.12 | LinuxNIT | so i wrote my own |
| 04:43.14 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 04:43.56 | LinuxNIT | i kept it simple and it works for me :) for others i dunno cause i can only test on my machine |
| 04:44.21 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, did you tell synaptic to refresh the repos? |
| 04:44.33 | yawlright | nice, i had some issues with ndiswrapper till i realized i had been wrapping the wrong driver for my card the whole time |
| 04:44.37 | LinuxNIT | or reload i guess |
| 04:44.41 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:44.57 | LinuxNIT | yawlright, wanna check it out tell me what ya think? |
| 04:45.28 | yawlright | would if i was still on wireless |
| 04:45.33 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:45.46 | yawlright | on cable now |
| 04:46.25 | LinuxNIT | no wifi in the house? |
| 04:46.39 | yawlright | not at the moment |
| 04:46.46 | LinuxNIT | we set up a wifi network in our house so we can take the laptops anywhere |
| 04:46.48 | revdjenk | dhcp scored...kubuntu has dhcp3-client 3-common installed |
| 04:46.48 | LinuxNIT | sooo nice |
| 04:47.00 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 04:47.31 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 04:47.41 | yawlright | good luck revdjenk |
| 04:47.52 | revdjenk | thnx |
| 04:48.01 | revdjenk | I |
| 04:48.01 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 04:48.07 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 04:48.13 | LinuxNIT | gotta uplaod it |
| 04:48.20 | LinuxNIT | search for python tk |
| 04:48.34 | revdjenk | I'm trying to get wireless in elive...and only distro to work is (K)ubuntu |
| 04:49.26 | revdjenk | I have 13 python packages isntalled |
| 04:49.39 | LinuxNIT | are any for tk support? |
| 04:50.15 | revdjenk | GTK=bindings for GLade support |
| 04:50.24 | LinuxNIT | mine is python2.4-tk |
| 04:50.31 | LinuxNIT | not gtk just tk |
| 04:50.47 | revdjenk | yes that is there |
| 04:50.51 | LinuxNIT | installed ? |
| 04:50.54 | revdjenk | yes |
| 04:50.57 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 04:51.25 | revdjenk | does this mean...if I install this in elive? it might work? |
| 04:52.00 | revdjenk | your gui or my wireless? |
| 04:52.05 | revdjenk | or both |
| 04:52.14 | roxville | lol |
| 04:52.14 | LinuxNIT | gui might |
| 04:52.29 | roxville | we may never know... |
| 04:52.36 | LinuxNIT | i dont understand the problem of wireless in elive |
| 04:52.42 | LinuxNIT | i dont know whats wrong with it |
| 04:52.53 | revdjenk | is it more than my card |
| 04:53.22 | revdjenk | I mean, is it other cards as well w/probs |
| 04:53.46 | LinuxNIT | www.arnoldgotsobe.com/david/wifi-root-dhclient.tar |
| 04:54.56 | LinuxNIT | you down load it? |
| 04:55.35 | revdjenk | not yet...ok ark has it ...now what |
| 04:55.46 | LinuxNIT | extract it |
| 04:56.06 | revdjenk | do I put it in elive partition? |
| 04:56.25 | LinuxNIT | where ever you want it |
| 04:56.42 | revdjenk | well this is intended for elive's benefit, right |
| 04:56.48 | revdjenk | so elive has to find it |
| 04:56.50 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 04:56.55 | LinuxNIT | this is for ubuntu |
| 04:57.10 | revdjenk | ah...but its working |
| 04:57.11 | LinuxNIT | but you can use it in elive too if ya want |
| 04:57.32 | revdjenk | oh this is the gui...we are getting to work |
| 04:58.18 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 04:58.18 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 04:58.19 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:58.19 | revdjenk | I'm a little slow |
| 04:58.19 | LinuxNIT | thats ok |
| 04:58.19 | LinuxNIT | extracted? |
| 04:58.45 | revdjenk | yep |
| 04:59.08 | LinuxNIT | ok from the cli cd into the dir it made called root and do sudo ./install.sh |
| 05:00.05 | revdjenk | sorry, what is cli |
| 05:00.10 | LinuxNIT | terminal |
| 05:00.13 | revdjenk | ah |
| 05:00.21 | LinuxNIT | cli = command line interface |
| 05:00.32 | revdjenk | thnx |
| 05:00.35 | LinuxNIT | np |
| 05:01.16 | LinuxNIT | dont? |
| 05:01.18 | LinuxNIT | done? |
| 05:02.28 | LinuxNIT | um you might have to do chmod +x install.sh |
| 05:02.34 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 05:03.27 | LinuxNIT | did i loose ya revdjenk |
| 05:03.28 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 05:03.35 | revdjenk | mkdir: cannot create directory `/etc/wifi-net': Permission denied |
| 05:03.35 | revdjenk | chmod: cannot access `/etc/wifi-net': No such file or directory |
| 05:03.35 | revdjenk | cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/bin/wifi-net-connector': Permission denied |
| 05:03.35 | revdjenk | ./install.sh: line 6: wifi-net-connector: command not found |
| 05:03.50 | revdjenk | that's the result |
| 05:03.56 | LinuxNIT | did you use sudo? |
| 05:04.01 | revdjenk | su |
| 05:04.18 | LinuxNIT | you ran it as root? |
| 05:04.29 | revdjenk | yes |
| 05:05.08 | LinuxNIT | not possivle |
| 05:05.13 | LinuxNIT | not possible |
| 05:05.14 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:05.34 | revdjenk | I retried and I have your gui! |
| 05:05.37 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:05.42 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 05:05.46 | LinuxNIT | click scan |
| 05:05.48 | revdjenk | slick |
| 05:05.52 | LinuxNIT | anything showup? |
| 05:06.21 | revdjenk | essid and ip |
| 05:06.28 | *** join/#elive beamer76 (n=bmobarry@pool-70-110-56-227.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 05:06.38 | LinuxNIT | does it find networks when you scan? |
| 05:06.50 | revdjenk | yes...all correct |
| 05:06.56 | LinuxNIT | cooooooooooooooooool |
| 05:07.13 | revdjenk | well done! |
| 05:07.18 | LinuxNIT | thanks |
| 05:07.21 | revdjenk | apt give LinuxNIT a cookie |
| 05:07.27 | apt | ACTION gives LinuxNIT a home-baked macadamia nut cookie to cheer him up. |
| 05:07.37 | LinuxNIT | let me know of anyideas to make it and the install process more user friendly |
| 05:07.44 | LinuxNIT | it has to be run as root btw |
| 05:08.04 | revdjenk | I thot that I was as su |
| 05:08.10 | revdjenk | see what I know |
| 05:08.27 | LinuxNIT | su changes you to root |
| 05:08.42 | revdjenk | so why didn't it work until I sudo'd |
| 05:08.46 | LinuxNIT | root user dose not exist in ubuntu |
| 05:08.49 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 05:08.54 | revdjenk | on top of su |
| 05:09.19 | revdjenk | yes... |
| 05:09.22 | LinuxNIT | no root user only root access for normal user via sudo |
| 05:09.46 | revdjenk | gotcha...I thot either worked |
| 05:10.01 | roxville | ok, time to hit the sack... |
| 05:10.07 | revdjenk | did gplgeek look at it too |
| 05:10.43 | LinuxNIT | later roxville |
| 05:10.49 | LinuxNIT | naw he hasnt seen it |
| 05:11.04 | quidam- | CIAO TUTTO |
| 05:11.05 | revdjenk | and how do I call this up next time in kubuntu or elive |
| 05:11.18 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.24 | revdjenk | g'nite quidam...good nick btw |
| 05:11.36 | LinuxNIT | or is should have created an icon on yyour desktop |
| 05:11.38 | revdjenk | thnx |
| 05:11.51 | LinuxNIT | wait hang on |
| 05:12.16 | LinuxNIT | is there an icon? |
| 05:12.51 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, ? |
| 05:13.12 | revdjenk | sorry desktop covered...tah dah |
| 05:13.20 | LinuxNIT | ok icon wont work |
| 05:13.24 | *** join/#elive ubushine (n=ubushine@d154-20-151-210.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 05:13.25 | revdjenk | LOL |
| 05:13.27 | LinuxNIT | cuase your in ubuntu |
| 05:13.29 | LinuxNIT | but |
| 05:13.53 | LinuxNIT | do you have any other icons on you desktop that run as root? |
| 05:14.08 | ubushine | hey kids -- just a quick question. is there a way to control mouse properties (speed) in elive? |
| 05:14.09 | revdjenk | no clean |
| 05:14.18 | LinuxNIT | hmmmm |
| 05:14.26 | LinuxNIT | thats a good one ubushine |
| 05:14.32 | revdjenk | I think I saw in elpanel under user |
| 05:14.38 | *** join/#elive pycs (n=Elive_us@203.84.186.98) |
| 05:14.50 | ubushine | LinuxNIT, oh? swear, i couldn't find it for my laptop. |
| 05:14.54 | revdjenk | but not sure if speed control was there |
| 05:15.25 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, put synaptic on the desktop right quick |
| 05:15.31 | GPLGeek | roxville, pong |
| 05:15.44 | LinuxNIT | ubushine, ask GPLGeek |
| 05:15.46 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:15.53 | GPLGeek | we took out the default sudo entry |
| 05:16.05 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, revdjenk is on ubuntu atm |
| 05:16.07 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 05:16.16 | ubushine | GPLGeek, any way to control mouse properties in elive? |
| 05:16.17 | revdjenk | that's why I typed su!!! |
| 05:16.24 | GPLGeek | you can add username or %group ALL= NOPASSWD: ALL |
| 05:16.28 | revdjenk | I was using that in elive |
| 05:16.31 | GPLGeek | want root on ubuntu? |
| 05:16.41 | GPLGeek | su && passwd |
| 05:16.54 | GPLGeek | er sudo su && passwd |
| 05:17.00 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:17.32 | GPLGeek | also, delete your logs |
| 05:17.33 | revdjenk | worked |
| 05:17.36 | ubushine | or is there anything i can install to control mouse speed? |
| 05:17.43 | GPLGeek | your root password is stored in 3 places in userspace logs |
| 05:17.57 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, did you just creat a root user in ubuntu? |
| 05:18.15 | revdjenk | no in term only |
| 05:18.34 | LinuxNIT | did you do what GPLGeek said to do? |
| 05:18.40 | revdjenk | yes |
| 05:18.47 | LinuxNIT | ok then the icon should work |
| 05:18.48 | LinuxNIT | try it |
| 05:19.02 | revdjenk | I did, but wouldn't take my password |
| 05:19.08 | revdjenk | in the popup |
| 05:19.15 | LinuxNIT | root password? |
| 05:19.21 | revdjenk | yes |
| 05:19.32 | LinuxNIT | thats not good |
| 05:19.36 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 05:20.03 | LinuxNIT | open a new terminal and su to root to see if it will take your passwod |
| 05:20.13 | LinuxNIT | dont close the terminal that is already root |
| 05:20.13 | revdjenk | I know...it has been hit and miss with accepting the root password...but remember I'm not keeping kubuntu once elive up and runnign.. |
| 05:20.34 | LinuxNIT | ohhhh |
| 05:20.41 | pycs | <ubushine> try xset command :) |
| 05:20.58 | ubushine | pycs, oh ya? |
| 05:21.24 | pycs | yeah :) |
| 05:22.15 | LinuxNIT | well revdjenk the command to run it is wifi-net-connector run as root |
| 05:22.29 | LinuxNIT | sucks the icon wont take the pw |
| 05:23.41 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, let me know if you ever see anything wierd with it so i can fix it ;) |
| 05:24.01 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, you still here? |
| 05:24.05 | revdjenk | I can't adjust time/date either |
| 05:24.09 | GPLGeek | Nope |
| 05:24.13 | LinuxNIT | darn |
| 05:24.13 | revdjenk | lol |
| 05:24.19 | GPLGeek | I'm in gentoo land |
| 05:24.22 | LinuxNIT | let me know when your back |
| 05:24.30 | LinuxNIT | wait a sec |
| 05:24.41 | GPLGeek | what do you need? |
| 05:24.41 | LinuxNIT | how can you talk if you aint here |
| 05:24.47 | revdjenk | trying the xgl? |
| 05:24.53 | LinuxNIT | help with apt the bot |
| 05:25.11 | LinuxNIT | we gave him a command earlier but we need to change it |
| 05:25.14 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 05:25.44 | ubushine | pycs, yup that got it. cheers dude |
| 05:25.54 | GPLGeek | what is the command? |
| 05:25.57 | pycs | :) |
| 05:25.59 | LinuxNIT | make-eap |
| 05:26.05 | GPLGeek | apt make-eap |
| 05:26.11 | apt | [make-eap] The easy way to make an eap is to 1) Start the program you want to create an eap for |
| 05:26.20 | GPLGeek | apt forget make-eap |
| 05:26.20 | apt | GPLGeek: i forgot make-eap |
| 05:26.26 | LinuxNIT | ah ha |
| 05:26.28 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 05:26.37 | GPLGeek | apt make-eap is pulling teeth |
| 05:26.41 | apt | okay, GPLGeek |
| 05:26.44 | LinuxNIT | noooooooooo |
| 05:26.45 | GPLGeek | apt forget make-eap |
| 05:26.46 | apt | i forgot make-eap, GPLGeek |
| 05:26.53 | GPLGeek | just an example... |
| 05:26.57 | LinuxNIT | apt make-eap is The easy way to make an eap is to 1) Start the program you want to create an eap for from the command line. 2) Right-click on the icon in the top left corner of the program and choose "create icon" 3) Give the eap an icon that is in .png format (make a new one using gimp if necessary) (icons are often found in /usr/share/icons or /usr/share/pixmaps however you can use an icon from any location since the icon |
| 05:27.00 | apt | LinuxNIT: okay |
| 05:27.00 | LinuxNIT | will be embedded in the eap after it is created) 4) If the program must be run as root add "gksu -u root" before the command so for and eap for synaptic it would look like "gksu -u root synaptic" without the quotes 5) Click apply. The easy way to make an eap is to 1) Start the program you want to create an eap for from the command line. 2) Right-click on the icon in the top left corner of the program and choose "create icon" |
| 05:27.01 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:27.03 | LinuxNIT | es 5) Click apply. |
| 05:27.09 | GPLGeek | that multilined |
| 05:27.09 | LinuxNIT | wtf i took all the reurns out |
| 05:27.15 | LinuxNIT | i noticed |
| 05:27.19 | GPLGeek | let me do it |
| 05:27.21 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 05:27.21 | *** part/#elive ubushine (n=ubushine@d154-20-151-210.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 05:27.26 | GPLGeek | apt forget make-eap |
| 05:27.26 | apt | GPLGeek: i forgot make-eap |
| 05:28.03 | LinuxNIT | sorry its long but its a long process |
| 05:28.16 | LinuxNIT | change anything you think needs it |
| 05:29.04 | LinuxNIT | roxville, and i thought this would be easier than telling people over and over :D |
| 05:29.23 | pycs | yes, i agree.. :) |
| 05:29.31 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, wait i seea typo |
| 05:29.46 | revdjenk | hey LinuxNIT, can you tell me how to make an eap? |
| 05:29.51 | revdjenk | h ee heee hee |
| 05:29.53 | LinuxNIT | in step 4 command so for and eap for s and should be an |
| 05:29.57 | LinuxNIT | sorry |
| 05:30.07 | LinuxNIT | sorry revdjenk i forgot |
| 05:30.20 | revdjenk | LOL |
| 05:30.38 | revdjenk | apt give revdjenk a poke in the ribs |
| 05:30.41 | apt | ACTION gives a poke in the ribs to revdjenk |
| 05:32.05 | LinuxNIT | hmm the time just dissapeard from my clock |
| 05:32.12 | revdjenk | well thnx for the lessons and the commiserating...I'm off to bed |
| 05:32.19 | revdjenk | see it must be time for you too |
| 05:32.23 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:32.25 | LinuxNIT | g'night |
| 05:32.43 | GPLGeek | ok it's done |
| 05:32.50 | GPLGeek | apt make-eap |
| 05:32.52 | apt | well, make-eap is The easy way to make an eap is to 1) Start the program you want to create an eap for from the command line. 2) Right-click on the icon in the top left corner of the program and choose "create icon" 3) Give the eap an icon that is in .png format (make a new one using gimp if necessary) (icons are often found in /usr/share/icons or ... |
| 05:32.57 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 05:33.02 | GPLGeek | oh wait |
| 05:33.12 | GPLGeek | it still cuts off |
| 05:33.18 | GPLGeek | Why not serve it somewhere and link to it? |
| 05:33.20 | LinuxNIT | so i saw :( |
| 05:33.26 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 05:33.36 | LinuxNIT | elive site? |
| 05:33.41 | yawlright | this channel is much elivelier than last night |
| 05:33.47 | LinuxNIT | oh my |
| 05:33.52 | GPLGeek | make a atspace account, free no ads |
| 05:34.13 | GPLGeek | http://atspace.org/ |
| 05:34.24 | GPLGeek | use that like a permanent pastebin |
| 05:34.47 | LinuxNIT | well ive got a site on my bros server i can use |
| 05:35.09 | LinuxNIT | i just thought mabye under the how tos in the elive website |
| 05:35.10 | LinuxNIT | no? |
| 05:35.26 | LinuxNIT | just say the word youre the boss |
| 05:35.28 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 05:35.30 | GPLGeek | That would be a good thing to do |
| 05:35.42 | GPLGeek | Ill make a ticket |
| 05:35.46 | GPLGeek | and put that text in there |
| 05:35.51 | GPLGeek | and then we will add it to the site |
| 05:36.01 | LinuxNIT | need i do anything? |
| 05:36.55 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, ? |
| 05:37.50 | GPLGeek | Nah, Ill handle it |
| 05:37.54 | LinuxNIT | ok thanks |
| 05:38.03 | LinuxNIT | sorry to give ya more work |
| 05:38.07 | GPLGeek | no problem |
| 05:38.11 | GPLGeek | It's a good thing |
| 05:38.14 | LinuxNIT | btw |
| 05:38.44 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk asked if youd seen my wifi gui. no idea if your interested but i thought id throw it out there |
| 05:40.30 | GPLGeek | I will make it look good too |
| 05:40.32 | GPLGeek | easier to read |
| 05:40.35 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 05:40.37 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 05:41.37 | LinuxNIT | apt make-eap |
| 05:41.53 | pycs | does anybody know how to record videos from google videos? or rather rip the streaming content? |
| 05:42.00 | LinuxNIT | ok good its forgoten |
| 05:50.50 | GPLGeek | make-eap |
| 05:50.58 | GPLGeek | apt make-eap |
| 05:51.00 | apt | methinks make-eap is http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html |
| 05:51.31 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, |
| 05:51.47 | GPLGeek | thats just for now |
| 05:51.48 | LinuxNIT | sorry i tried to get ya earlier but... |
| 05:51.54 | LinuxNIT | in 4) If the program must be run as root add "gksu -u root" |
| 05:51.54 | LinuxNIT | before the command so for and eap for synaptic it would look like "gksu -u root synaptic" without the quotes |
| 05:52.19 | LinuxNIT | " command so for and eap for synaptic" "and" should be "an" |
| 05:52.55 | LinuxNIT | thanks thought that will be really helpful |
| 05:52.56 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 05:53.08 | LinuxNIT | less typing all around :D |
| 05:54.33 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, your right you made it look a lot nice :D |
| 05:55.31 | GPLGeek | ok its updated |
| 05:55.55 | GPLGeek | just a few <br> and returns and its readable lol |
| 05:56.03 | GPLGeek | I might hilight in blue the commands |
| 05:56.07 | GPLGeek | maybe |
| 05:56.31 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 05:56.34 | LinuxNIT | cool thanks |
| 06:05.51 | GPLGeek | I'm sshing to a machine that I'm installing gentoo on lol. |
| 06:06.04 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:06.10 | GPLGeek | It's going to be nice |
| 06:06.17 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 06:06.35 | LinuxNIT | hey did you see what i said about the gui earlier? |
| 06:06.45 | GPLGeek | No |
| 06:07.10 | LinuxNIT | <LinuxNIT> revdjenk asked if youd seen my wifi gui. no idea if your interested but i thought id throw it out there |
| 06:08.18 | GPLGeek | you made a wifi gui? |
| 06:08.37 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 06:08.52 | LinuxNIT | written in python with tk toolkit |
| 06:09.25 | pycs | wow pygtk? |
| 06:09.29 | LinuxNIT | uses iwconfig iwlist ifconfig and either dhclient or pump |
| 06:09.33 | LinuxNIT | no not gtk |
| 06:09.35 | LinuxNIT | just tk |
| 06:09.40 | pycs | ok.. :) |
| 06:09.43 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 06:10.29 | LinuxNIT | i got sick of trying guis that didnt work so i wrote one lol |
| 06:10.38 | pycs | can a python be compiled as binary? |
| 06:10.58 | LinuxNIT | theoretically but i havent done it |
| 06:11.06 | GPLGeek | pycs, yes |
| 06:11.12 | LinuxNIT | there ya go |
| 06:11.17 | pycs | oh.. ok.. |
| 06:11.27 | GPLGeek | not that you would want to |
| 06:11.34 | LinuxNIT | why not? |
| 06:11.59 | GPLGeek | python is a highly efficient interpreted flexible language |
| 06:12.20 | GPLGeek | if it's still in text people can see what's goin on without source packages |
| 06:12.36 | LinuxNIT | true |
| 06:13.13 | LinuxNIT | so is the downside that people cant read it or does it have a performance downside? |
| 06:13.39 | GPLGeek | py2exe(windows) py2app(mac) py2bin(*nix) |
| 06:14.15 | GPLGeek | you can also compile them into modules that can be called by python. using import modulename |
| 06:14.26 | GPLGeek | why do I know this? I don't even know python? |
| 06:14.38 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:14.53 | GPLGeek | Well I do a little.... |
| 06:14.56 | LinuxNIT | yeah iver heard of py2exe and py2bin |
| 06:15.26 | pycs | i only heard of py2sis hehe |
| 06:15.29 | GPLGeek | Rumors are that there is a usable mono compatible python compiler |
| 06:15.58 | GPLGeek | so the py.exe can be run on windows or linux or mac with the same binary. |
| 06:16.03 | GPLGeek | just sh py.exe on linux or double lick or start py.exe on windows |
| 06:16.07 | LinuxNIT | well GPLGeek you interested in it or no? (i dont care i just thought id ask) |
| 06:16.25 | GPLGeek | Maybe later |
| 06:16.40 | GPLGeek | can you memo me a link to screenshots? or a link to the binary? |
| 06:17.03 | LinuxNIT | i have no binary |
| 06:17.21 | LinuxNIT | but ill liknya to what i do have and ill get a screenshot |
| 06:17.27 | GPLGeek | or package =) |
| 06:17.37 | LinuxNIT | uh how do i memo lol |
| 06:17.42 | GPLGeek | nm just link it |
| 06:17.47 | GPLGeek | Ill look at it now |
| 06:17.47 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 06:18.30 | LinuxNIT | www.arnoldgotsobe.com/david/wifi-root-dhclient.tar |
| 06:18.33 | LinuxNIT | thats the code and stuff |
| 06:19.24 | LinuxNIT | uplaoding screenshot |
| 06:19.45 | LinuxNIT | http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot13fi.png |
| 06:22.54 | GPLGeek | thats nice and simple |
| 06:23.11 | LinuxNIT | thanks |
| 06:23.30 | GPLGeek | maybe we can test it some and put it in elive? |
| 06:23.45 | LinuxNIT | i figured if i kept it simple then thered be less to break |
| 06:23.50 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 06:24.00 | GPLGeek | we would have to talk to thana about that though |
| 06:24.01 | LinuxNIT | i have only tested on a couple pcs |
| 06:24.05 | LinuxNIT | of course |
| 06:24.15 | LinuxNIT | seemed to work |
| 06:24.36 | LinuxNIT | im gonna make a couple changes |
| 06:24.58 | LinuxNIT | do you think it should have the option for dhcp or static? |
| 06:26.22 | GPLGeek | well let them choose |
| 06:26.31 | LinuxNIT | them who? |
| 06:26.36 | GPLGeek | the end user |
| 06:26.40 | GPLGeek | =) |
| 06:26.55 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 06:27.08 | LinuxNIT | so it ran fine on yours? |
| 06:27.59 | GPLGeek | Have not tested it yet |
| 06:28.02 | GPLGeek | too busy right now |
| 06:28.04 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 06:28.05 | LinuxNIT | np |
| 06:28.09 | GPLGeek | I have to get this cluster up and running |
| 06:28.10 | LinuxNIT | just curious |
| 06:28.13 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 06:28.38 | GPLGeek | We might make elive able to cluster |
| 06:28.47 | GPLGeek | including distcc but other uses as well. |
| 06:29.11 | GPLGeek | so imagine turning any pc into a node if you need just a little more power |
| 06:29.14 | LinuxNIT | sorry i get anxious when someone new trys cause i want it to work on another pc since its the first program i have written :) |
| 06:29.21 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 06:29.54 | LinuxNIT | sounds like yall have quite the plans for elive :> |
| 06:30.05 | GPLGeek | oh man it's exciting |
| 06:30.11 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 06:31.02 | GPLGeek | I have made primative psudo-clusters before |
| 06:31.27 | LinuxNIT | ive never messed with one. in fact.. |
| 06:32.00 | GPLGeek | clusters are where many computers act as one or split tasks |
| 06:32.16 | LinuxNIT | i kinda thought it was somthing like that |
| 06:32.20 | GPLGeek | so instead of compiling on one computer you can compile the same program on like 100 computers |
| 06:32.23 | LinuxNIT | thats cool |
| 06:32.29 | GPLGeek | there are also web clusters with load shifting |
| 06:32.32 | LinuxNIT | fun |
| 06:33.06 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 06:33.27 | GPLGeek | bit torrent in a sense is a cluster |
| 06:33.39 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 06:33.43 | GPLGeek | many computers working to the same means, shifting loads. |
| 06:33.56 | LinuxNIT | sounds handy :) |
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| 06:35.43 | LinuxNIT | btw GPLGeek if you look at the code for that program i have stuff commented out that will be removed cause its not needed ;) ive been working on it the last day or so :) |
| 06:36.27 | LinuxNIT | im gonna go now. nice chattin GPLGeek |
| 06:36.29 | LinuxNIT | nigh |
| 06:36.33 | LinuxNIT | night |
| 06:36.36 | GPLGeek | later |
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| 07:10.50 | wasynyt | good morning everyone |
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| 08:04.27 | egrub | apt x en es wants to make a LFS |
| 08:05.50 | egrub | apt x en es and conde a packaging system on bash |
| 08:10.24 | Thanatermesis | conde xDDD |
| 08:10.34 | Thanatermesis | si es que sinplomo no sabe escribir.. xD |
| 08:10.49 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, ¬¬ |
| 08:11.11 | sinplomo | ya me pediras que te traduzca algo ... |
| 08:11.13 | sinplomo | XD |
| 08:11.13 | egrub | Jajajaja!! |
| 08:11.18 | Thanatermesis | xDDD |
| 08:11.31 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, te respondieron al mail que enviaste a TI ? |
| 08:12.56 | Thanatermesis | aun no lo envie xD |
| 08:12.59 | Thanatermesis | quieres mandarlo tu ? |
| 08:14.01 | GPLGeek | Good night |
| 08:14.08 | Thanatermesis | good night GPLGeek |
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| 08:59.30 | IcedEarth | apt hello |
| 08:59.30 | apt | bonjour |
| 08:59.37 | IcedEarth | apt bonjour |
| 08:59.39 | apt | somebody said bonjour was Nice weather were having |
| 08:59.54 | IcedEarth | apt im bored |
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| 09:06.56 | LinuxNIT | poor IcedEarth |
| 09:07.16 | IcedEarth | nah Im just having a cigarrette before work |
| 09:07.35 | LinuxNIT | ah |
| 09:10.05 | IcedEarth | see ya |
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| 09:27.49 | pycs | apt eap maker |
| 09:28.06 | pycs | oh (: |
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| 09:57.48 | withoutclass | good morning |
| 09:58.27 | Smjor|Work | mornin'! |
| 09:58.31 | withoutclass | Thanatermesis, awake? |
| 09:58.50 | withoutclass | so early |
| 09:58.58 | withoutclass | 4am =X |
| 09:59.49 | Thanatermesis | everytime awake :) |
| 10:02.47 | withoutclass | Thanatermesis, :P |
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| 10:16.35 | Elive_user93 | hi everyone :) |
| 10:16.55 | Elive_user93 | How to install elive to HDD with SerialATA disc ? |
| 10:17.12 | Elive_user93 | becouse my live linux doesn`t support SATA :( |
| 10:18.08 | Smjor|Work | Try elive 0.4.2. It has basic SATA support |
| 10:18.33 | wasynyt_asleep | on elive you log in to e16 and use kernel modules tool to enable sata driver that you need |
| 10:19.25 | wasynyt | in e16 open menu and there configure.. kernel modules |
| 10:19.39 | Elive_user93 | ooo nice :) |
| 10:19.42 | wasynyt | :D |
| 10:20.00 | Elive_user93 | i check this at this momment :D |
| 10:20.45 | wasynyt | i think its is somewher /kernel/drivers/sata.. or something :S |
| 10:21.04 | pokole | heh. kernel crash prolly |
| 10:21.21 | wasynyt | i think he just switching to e16 |
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| 10:24.32 | Elive_user93 | Hi its Work :) |
| 10:24.41 | Elive_user93 | very thanks |
| 10:24.42 | wasynyt | good :D |
| 10:24.43 | Elive_user93 | linux rulez |
| 10:24.55 | Elive_user93 | in line command how to load moudule ? |
| 10:25.03 | Elive_user93 | in BSD is "kldload -v module" |
| 10:25.04 | Elive_user93 | ;) |
| 10:25.10 | Elive_user93 | LI know better BSD |
| 10:25.34 | wasynyt | http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/modprobe.8.html |
| 10:25.46 | Elive_user93 | thanks:) |
| 10:26.01 | Elive_user93 | seeya |
| 10:26.38 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 10:30.19 | brittaaa | hi everyone! |
| 10:31.02 | brittaaa | can someone tell me why my ethernet-connection is deactivated everytime i do a reboot |
| 10:38.02 | wasynyt | have you tried looking for solution from elpanel.. |
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| 11:48.41 | Elive_user8 | hello |
| 11:48.50 | Elive_user8 | I have problem with elive |
| 11:48.55 | Elive_user8 | :/ |
| 11:49.05 | pycs | oh.. |
| 11:49.31 | pycs | just post it, someone might have the answer :) |
| 11:49.45 | Elive_user8 | I install elive to hdd (on serial ata) and BSD grub take control with MBR |
| 11:50.05 | Elive_user8 | How can I install new "boot menu" to MBR |
| 11:50.49 | pycs | dunno, anybody? |
| 11:51.49 | alekibango_worki | you mean how to change the menu? |
| 11:51.54 | alekibango_worki | is it grub? |
| 11:52.01 | alekibango_worki | edit /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 11:52.23 | alekibango_worki | then run update-grub |
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| 11:52.36 | Elive_user8 | wait, i mount BSD partition(UFS) and edit grub |
| 11:52.51 | Elive_user8 | FreeBSD doesn`t have update-grub |
| 11:59.19 | Elive_user8 | In BSd i don`t have grub, maybe becouse grub install to MBR(640kb in BIOS). Hmm....Linux must have a script/command to install new-fresh MBR |
| 11:59.53 | Elive_user8 | apropos tell me grub-install |
| 12:00.57 | Elive_user8 | aha, linux i install to another HDD |
| 12:01.09 | Elive_user8 | /dev/sdb1 1 1275 10241406 83 Linux |
| 12:01.09 | Elive_user8 | /dev/sdb2 1276 1536 2096482+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris |
| 12:01.09 | Elive_user8 | /dev/sdb3 1537 5360 30716280 83 Linux |
| 12:01.09 | Elive_user8 | /dev/sdb4 5361 6635 10241437+ 5 Extended |
| 12:01.09 | Elive_user8 | /dev/sdb5 5361 6635 10241406 83 Linux |
| 12:01.18 | Elive_user8 | Linux disc |
| 12:01.33 | Elive_user8 | FreeBSD |
| 12:01.35 | Elive_user8 | /dev/sda1 1 1274 10233373+ a5 FreeBSD |
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| 12:06.18 | get[elive] | Thanatermesis, |
| 12:06.20 | get[elive] | mira esto |
| 12:06.23 | get[elive] | get@ElivE[~]$ ethemes |
| 12:06.24 | get[elive] | *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption: 0x080e3010 *** |
| 12:06.24 | get[elive] | Abortado |
| 12:09.00 | Thanatermesis | get[elive] ya... |
| 12:09.04 | Thanatermesis | lanzalo desde elpanel |
| 12:09.08 | Thanatermesis | elpanel lanza ethemes sin ese bug |
| 12:09.21 | get[elive] | lo decia q el elpanel lo lanza y tambien se cuelga... |
| 12:09.22 | Thanatermesis | gracias a una variable que no recuerdo |
| 12:09.37 | Thanatermesis | si... es un soft un poco abandonado, no se puede hacer nada |
| 12:09.38 | Thanatermesis | peta |
| 12:09.47 | get[elive] | pues entonceS? |
| 12:10.05 | get[elive] | anoche cambie el theme q venia pro defecto por otro y desde entonces no me deja cambiarlo ya |
| 12:10.27 | get[elive] | pero bueno me he cargadao el .e/e/confi/* |
| 12:10.40 | get[elive] | y ahora tengo un E17 puro y duro tal como lo conozco |
| 12:10.43 | get[elive] | :D |
| 12:10.47 | get[elive] | tampoco estqa mal |
| 12:11.19 | pycs | <Thanatermesis>, why is entropy not in the menu? |
| 12:12.30 | pycs | by default i mean.. |
| 12:12.45 | Thanatermesis | because is in developement |
| 12:13.20 | Thanatermesis | get[elive] usa elpanel, es lo mejor, o la conf de e17 |
| 12:13.31 | get[elive] | pues con el elpanel no va |
| 12:13.32 | Elive_user83 | Hi everyone: does the installer in the latest Elive function: I tried it and computer froze |
| 12:13.32 | pycs | ah ic.. all e17 apps are in development too right? |
| 12:13.40 | get[elive] | me poneethemes conecting ... y peta |
| 12:13.53 | pycs | <Elive_user83> yes.. |
| 12:14.16 | Elive_user83 | the installer works you mean ??? |
| 12:14.53 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user39 you have selected "cancel" when has ask about the fast mode ? |
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| 12:40.31 | Elive_user | hola alguien habla español |
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| 13:08.59 | pycs | hi ive just notice this now, but skype won't install on elive.. |
| 13:09.20 | pycs | why? |
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| 13:25.03 | Elive_user | any one tried getting Wireless ipw2200 working on Elive ? |
| 13:25.28 | Elive_user | having issues |
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| 13:25.42 | sinplomo | $ apt-cache search ipw2200 |
| 13:25.42 | sinplomo | ipw2200-modules-2.6.12 - ipw2200 modules for Linux (kernel 2.6.12). |
| 13:26.17 | Elive_user | the kernel 2.6.12 would kernel panic on me... so had to use kernel 2.1.11 |
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| 13:26.57 | Elive_user | ieee80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'NULL' |
| 13:26.57 | Elive_user | ieee80211: 802.11 data/management/control stack, 1.1.6 |
| 13:26.57 | Elive_user | ieee80211: Copyright (C) 2004-2005 Intel Corporation <jketreno@linux.intel.com> |
| 13:26.57 | Elive_user | ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.0.8 |
| 13:26.57 | Elive_user | ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2005 Intel Corporation |
| 13:26.58 | Elive_user | ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:04:02.0[A] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 21 |
| 13:27.00 | Elive_user | ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection |
| 13:27.02 | Elive_user | ipw2200: ipw-2.4-boot.fw load failed: Reason -2 |
| 13:27.04 | Elive_user | ipw2200: Unable to load firmware: -2 |
| 13:27.06 | Elive_user | ipw2200: failed to register network device |
| 13:27.11 | Elive_user | this is the dmesg log |
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| 13:28.33 | roxville | http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/HowtoInstallKernel#ThebarisopenChoiceyourbetterflavourhellip |
| 13:28.42 | roxville | http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org/trac |
| 13:29.58 | Elive_user | thanks roxville... will try it out |
| 13:30.17 | roxville | make sure you enable the repo first |
| 13:30.54 | roxville | 2.6.15 SHOULD work much better with your card... however, i'm not certain |
| 13:32.46 | pycs | <roxville>, have you tried installing skype on elive? |
| 13:33.32 | pycs | no? |
| 13:34.39 | roxville | pycs, i did, on the last version |
| 13:34.57 | pycs | the deb file? |
| 13:34.57 | roxville | sinplomo, was it you that packed skype for elive? |
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| 13:35.47 | sinplomo | roxville, no |
| 13:36.03 | sinplomo | roxville, I will make a deb now ... |
| 13:36.34 | pycs | where can i find it? |
| 13:37.23 | roxville | pycs, it will be in the elive repo |
| 13:38.01 | roxville | the static lib version makes it so you can't update your system |
| 13:38.01 | pycs | ok thanks.. i just apt update it then :) |
| 13:38.39 | pycs | oh.. |
| 13:39.42 | pycs | so i can't update? |
| 13:39.52 | roxville | but sinplomo 's version should work much better :) |
| 13:40.10 | roxville | do you have it installed, pycs ? |
| 13:40.41 | pycs | no, haven't yet.. |
| 13:41.16 | roxville | ok, just wait a little and sinplomo should tell you when he's done... it may take a little while :) |
| 13:41.26 | roxville | or ask him later |
| 13:41.42 | pycs | ok i'll just wait :) |
| 13:42.58 | pycs | if it will be in the repo, i'll just look for it.. in a while.. |
| 13:46.30 | pycs | gtg to bed, gnight.. :) |
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| 13:52.33 | Elive_user | roxyville still here ? |
| 13:53.40 | Elive_user | most of the problems solved with 2-6-15 |
| 13:54.30 | sinplomo | http://www.cslug.org/~aaberg/files/skype/skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb |
| 13:54.36 | sinplomo | it's a working skype deb |
| 13:54.40 | sinplomo | :) |
| 13:54.45 | sinplomo | not mine .. :P |
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| 14:54.08 | Thanatermesis | gnomebaker rulez a lot :) |
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| 15:37.24 | Thanatermesis | wb SteveMyers |
| 15:37.33 | SteveMyers | ty! :D |
| 15:37.46 | SteveMyers | been really busy the past few days |
| 15:38.02 | SteveMyers | this website is taking alot of time away from me :p |
| 15:38.48 | SteveMyers | how have things been with you Thana? |
| 15:39.17 | Thanatermesis | good :) |
| 15:39.29 | Thanatermesis | im backuping all the work of Elive for close the actual steps |
| 15:39.59 | Thanatermesis | the future 0.5 is a too big change... too much diferent, i need to start from scratch now |
| 15:40.13 | SteveMyers | you serious? |
| 15:40.16 | Thanatermesis | yeah |
| 15:40.22 | Thanatermesis | you know the word "liveCD" ? |
| 15:40.26 | Thanatermesis | forget it :) |
| 15:40.30 | SteveMyers | lol |
| 15:40.31 | Gwildor | what |
| 15:40.39 | Gwildor | elive 0.5 will not be live? |
| 15:40.41 | Thanatermesis | 0.5 is not more a "liveCD" |
| 15:40.46 | Thanatermesis | yes... its live |
| 15:40.54 | Thanatermesis | but no equal to a "liveCD" works |
| 15:41.07 | Thanatermesis | is more than a... "Elive system installed booting from a CD" :) |
| 15:41.09 | SteveMyers | ohh I see what he means |
| 15:41.22 | Gwildor | heh, enlighten me plz :P |
| 15:41.39 | Gwildor | cuz, i dont really follow |
| 15:41.47 | Thanatermesis | its hard to understand... |
| 15:41.58 | Gwildor | smokebreak....brb |
| 15:42.13 | Thanatermesis | Elive actually is 2 systems in one CD |
| 15:42.21 | Thanatermesis | morphix system (hacked for elive) and Elive system |
| 15:42.42 | SteveMyers | hmm |
| 15:42.56 | SteveMyers | I like the way that sounds |
| 15:43.05 | Thanatermesis | morphix is the liveCD things, it boots the CD, look your computer, autodetects, configure it, and when is finished, enter in the "real Elive system", then launch the things to need to launch in the liveCD mode for start the "elive system" |
| 15:43.15 | Thanatermesis | now is diferent |
| 15:43.32 | Thanatermesis | in the same way, exist the Elive system and this new system... |
| 15:43.54 | Thanatermesis | but this new system, the thing of make is to enter in the Elive system and BOOTs it in the same way to are installed |
| 15:44.20 | SteveMyers | hmm |
| 15:44.37 | Thanatermesis | then not has any diference between a Elive installed system and use this new generations of Elive for work on it |
| 15:45.15 | SteveMyers | very nice :D |
| 15:45.17 | Thanatermesis | yes... is logic to has diferences, if you turn off the computer, you lost your "new users created" and all this things... but you can be posible to work in this system in the SAME way to are a installed system |
| 15:45.46 | Thanatermesis | and this is just the first steps of Elive... :) |
| 15:45.52 | SteveMyers | good God |
| 15:45.54 | SteveMyers | lol |
| 15:46.06 | Thanatermesis | same to i say all the time... "Elive has just be born" ;) |
| 15:46.20 | SteveMyers | hehe |
| 15:46.24 | SteveMyers | that's deffinently true |
| 15:46.36 | Thanatermesis | Elive has actually priorities |
| 15:47.04 | SteveMyers | ? |
| 15:47.15 | Thanatermesis | First priority: Make the system better, try to found the "perfection" (also if aparently this is imposible... if you try, you are more close) |
| 15:47.38 | Thanatermesis | Second priority: Make Elive more beautiful :) |
| 15:48.44 | SteveMyers | I love it the way it is |
| 15:48.47 | SteveMyers | graphic wise |
| 15:49.06 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 15:49.09 | SteveMyers | but system work, there is always room for improvement |
| 15:49.53 | Thanatermesis | yeah, of course, and everytime exist new things for implement |
| 15:50.14 | SteveMyers | yep |
| 15:51.22 | SteveMyers | I haven't been on Elive for about a month now, and I really miss being on it, but I am sure that when I update && upgrade there will be huge improvements, but also some bugs, which I am well prepaired for. |
| 15:51.43 | SteveMyers | When I move into my new house, then I'll be on it. (No Network) |
| 15:52.08 | SteveMyers | that's about 3 1/2 weeks from today |
| 15:52.50 | SteveMyers | I'm on winblows right now on the computer downstairs, my system is upstairs, collecting dust until I move :-/ |
| 15:53.21 | SteveMyers | brb, it does need dusting |
| 15:53.37 | Thanatermesis | Elive has actually a new branch |
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| 15:53.59 | Thanatermesis | basically for separate the end-users to the improvements things and developements/debug |
| 15:54.19 | Thanatermesis | i wait a little for write this News "officially" |
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| 15:56.43 | SteveMyers | what do you mean by a new branch? |
| 15:56.46 | SteveMyers | Hey rox! :D |
| 15:57.10 | Thanatermesis | wait |
| 15:57.50 | roxville | hey SteveMyers :) |
| 15:57.52 | Thanatermesis | http://pastebin.com/605590 |
| 15:58.04 | Thanatermesis | this is the news to i need to post SteveMyers |
| 15:58.56 | roxville | SteveMyers, http://roxville.no-ip.org/public_html/misc/elive-woody-theme-scrnsht.png |
| 15:59.47 | SteveMyers | roxville, now that is freakin sweet lookin |
| 16:00.15 | SteveMyers | Thanatermesis, I can redue this if you want me to, and correct the spelling and etc. |
| 16:00.26 | SteveMyers | really simple |
| 16:01.12 | SteveMyers | roxville, you got a black theme? |
| 16:01.28 | SteveMyers | or like a smokey grey type theme |
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| 16:02.19 | Thanatermesis | SteveMyers yeah... i need to clean it a little before to post it, if you like to clean it its ok :) |
| 16:02.40 | roxville | SteveMyers, this is just a mockup... and no, i don't have a black theme... the "Tecno" theme is so good that i don't wanna touch a black theme... |
| 16:02.50 | SteveMyers | Thanatermesis, I'll work on it right now :) |
| 16:03.00 | SteveMyers | lol |
| 16:03.05 | SteveMyers | roxville, very true |
| 16:03.28 | SteveMyers | I sent myself that edj file so when I get into my new house in 3 weeks I can install it. |
| 16:05.10 | SteveMyers | Thanatermesis, what does this mean: the only requirement is to not are a |
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| 16:06.39 | Thanatermesis | SteveMyers "the only thing required is to have a minimum of knowledgements of linux/debian" |
| 16:06.53 | SteveMyers | awesome, ty :) |
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| 16:22.38 | SteveMyers | Thanatermesis, http://pastebin.com/605645 |
| 16:22.45 | SteveMyers | ignore the numbered lines :) |
| 16:22.53 | Thanatermesis | thanks :) |
| 16:22.54 | SteveMyers | I made it into paragrphs |
| 16:23.03 | SteveMyers | no problem :) |
| 16:28.42 | roxville | 947 frames in 5.0 seconds = 189.372 FPS |
| 16:29.10 | get[elive] | X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). |
| 16:29.10 | get[elive] | 6166 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1233.187 FPS |
| 16:29.41 | get[elive] | nvidia gforce fx5200 128 ;) |
| 16:30.11 | roxville | yeah yeah... |
| 16:30.19 | SteveMyers | nice :D that's really good |
| 16:30.19 | roxville | :) |
| 16:30.51 | roxville | i don't understand why i get such sucky fps... |
| 16:30.58 | get[elive] | anyone knows a good linux for a palm? |
| 16:31.11 | roxville | i got a geforce4000mx agp with 64mb ram |
| 16:31.27 | get[elive] | roxville, thats pretty nice graka |
| 16:32.02 | roxville | the fps used to be better... something is not working right... |
| 16:32.17 | get[elive] | letme test on fullscreen |
| 16:32.18 | Thanatermesis | you have more speed with the new or the old driver of nvidia roxville ? |
| 16:32.24 | roxville | oh... i need to edit my xorg.conf |
| 16:32.31 | get[elive] | X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). |
| 16:32.31 | get[elive] | 3796 frames in 5.0 seconds = 759.139 FPS |
| 16:32.31 | get[elive] | 570 frames in 5.0 seconds = 113.950 FPS |
| 16:32.41 | roxville | Thanatermesis, a little less |
| 16:32.47 | roxville | with the new |
| 16:33.01 | Thanatermesis | works diferently, yes |
| 16:33.09 | get[elive] | im with default driver... |
| 16:33.19 | roxville | dayum... |
| 16:33.22 | Thanatermesis | roxville what fps in: evas_gl_x11_test ? |
| 16:33.57 | Thanatermesis | $ glxinfo | grep -i render |
| 16:33.57 | Thanatermesis | direct rendering: No |
| 16:34.02 | get[elive] | X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). |
| 16:34.02 | get[elive] | GL: create info... |
| 16:34.02 | get[elive] | GL: setup info... |
| 16:34.02 | get[elive] | GL: gl window setup done. |
| 16:34.03 | get[elive] | GL EXT supported: GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap = ffffffff |
| 16:34.03 | get[elive] | GL EXT supported: GL_NV_texture_rectangle = ffffffff |
| 16:34.04 | Thanatermesis | because you have it on Yes, no ? |
| 16:34.05 | get[elive] | GL EXT supported: GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two = 0 |
| 16:34.07 | get[elive] | DISABLE GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two |
| 16:34.13 | Thanatermesis | get[elive] flooder :P |
| 16:34.22 | roxville | # FRAME COUNT: 190 frames |
| 16:34.22 | get[elive] | envidioso |
| 16:34.22 | roxville | # TIME: 20.149 seconds |
| 16:34.22 | roxville | # AVERAGE FPS: 9.430 fps |
| 16:34.33 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 16:34.58 | Thanatermesis | roxville and the render thing to i have just say is in ? |
| 16:35.20 | roxville | yes |
| 16:35.36 | roxville | GL EXT supported: GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap = ffffffff |
| 16:35.36 | roxville | GL EXT supported: GL_NV_texture_rectangle = ffffffff |
| 16:35.36 | roxville | GL EXT supported: GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two = 0 |
| 16:35.36 | roxville | DISABLE GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two |
| 16:36.06 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.06 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... i need to look more for the 3d acceleation in evas... |
| 16:36.11 | roxville | :/ |
| 16:36.23 | Thanatermesis | i think to not works correctly |
| 16:37.16 | roxville | when i started nvidia-settings, it said that it could not find NV-CONTROL |
| 16:37.36 | Thanatermesis | no idea... |
| 16:40.37 | roxville | 1121 frames in 5.0 seconds = 224.074 FPS after closing firefox |
| 16:40.49 | roxville | lol |
| 16:41.19 | roxville | a little better... |
| 16:42.51 | roxville | ok, i gotta take my daughter... she's driving me nuts... i can hardly type, coz she's hanging on me and screaming in my ear... |
| 16:43.50 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 16:44.41 | SteveMyers | Thanatermesis, was that type up what you were wanting? |
| 16:47.21 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es was that type up what you were wanting? |
| 16:47.43 | Thanatermesis | what ? |
| 16:51.29 | SteveMyers | The pastebin link I gave to you, is the way I fixed it ok for you? |
| 16:52.46 | Thanatermesis | yeah, i have cleaned the numbers and all the things with vim... |
| 16:53.04 | Thanatermesis | i have saved it, maybe i post today... i don't know |
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| 16:55.27 | SteveMyers | :) ok |
| 16:57.47 | get[elive] | GL: create info... |
| 16:57.47 | get[elive] | GL: setup info... |
| 16:57.47 | get[elive] | GL: gl window setup done. |
| 16:57.47 | get[elive] | GL EXT supported: GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap = ffffffff |
| 16:57.47 | get[elive] | GL EXT supported: GL_NV_texture_rectangle = ffffffff |
| 16:57.48 | get[elive] | GL EXT supported: GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two = 0 |
| 16:57.50 | get[elive] | DISABLE GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two |
| 16:57.52 | get[elive] | #################################################### |
| 16:57.54 | get[elive] | # Performance Test. Your system scores... |
| 16:57.56 | get[elive] | #################################################### |
| 16:57.58 | get[elive] | # FRAME COUNT: 14437 frames |
| 16:58.00 | get[elive] | # TIME: 20.001 seconds |
| 16:58.02 | get[elive] | # AVERAGE FPS: 721.817 fps |
| 16:58.04 | get[elive] | #################################################### |
| 16:58.06 | get[elive] | # Your system Evas Benchmark: |
| 16:58.08 | get[elive] | # |
| 16:58.10 | get[elive] | # EVAS BENCH: 12.030 |
| 16:58.12 | get[elive] | # |
| 16:58.14 | get[elive] | #################################################### |
| 16:58.18 | get[elive] | ################ evas free |
| 16:58.20 | get[elive] | evas freed. DONE |
| 16:58.36 | egrub | get[elive], que haces? |
| 16:58.39 | Thanatermesis | O_O |
| 16:58.42 | egrub | Floodeando? |
| 16:58.52 | Thanatermesis | get[elive] no sabrias mejor pegarme la linea de los FPS ? xD |
| 16:59.14 | Thanatermesis | joder, esos FPS estan pero que muy bien... es de la GL ? |
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| 16:59.38 | TuxMeister | hey guys |
| 16:59.53 | SteveMyers | Hey Tux :) |
| 17:00.24 | Thanatermesis | yo TuxMeister |
| 17:00.37 | TuxMeister | sup SteveMyers |
| 17:00.44 | Thanatermesis | get[elive] apt-cache policy efl-all que version te dice que tienes instalada ? |
| 17:01.09 | SteveMyers | chillin man, doing some work and waiting for my domain to get active on nameserver, you? |
| 17:01.53 | TuxMeister | workin' too, preparing a new winblows pc for a client |
| 17:02.00 | SteveMyers | hehe |
| 17:02.42 | TuxMeister | i wish i could "hack" all the hd's i get putting a small trace of mine, an installed elive + win |
| 17:03.00 | TuxMeister | that would be awsome, but my boss doesn't want to integrate linux in the pc's yet |
| 17:03.14 | SteveMyers | :p |
| 17:03.28 | TuxMeister | private custommers are too dummy and enterprises wich work with linux don't even contact with us :( |
| 17:04.02 | SteveMyers | what do you do? |
| 17:04.06 | SteveMyers | work wise |
| 17:06.00 | TuxMeister | IT tech support and analising |
| 17:07.15 | SteveMyers | very cool :) |
| 17:11.11 | TuxMeister | yep, i'm happy workin' here |
| 17:12.00 | Thanatermesis | <TuxMeister> that would be awsome, but my boss doesn't want to integrate linux in the pc's yet |
| 17:12.08 | Thanatermesis | oh... you don't have show to he "elive" ? :) |
| 17:13.12 | TuxMeister | nope... but i should |
| 17:13.57 | Thanatermesis | TuxMeister wait better the next generation of Elive ;) |
| 17:14.20 | TuxMeister | i'll wait |
| 17:21.02 | TuxMeister | i'll install it at home this night |
| 17:21.37 | TuxMeister | Thanatermesis, un amigo mio se quedo flipando con lo rapido que va la live una vez iniciado e17 |
| 17:22.39 | Thanatermesis | es muy ligera ;) |
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| 17:25.36 | Thanatermesis | TuxMeister la gente acostumbradas a knopixx y kde's... |
| 17:28.59 | egrub | Thanatermesis, pero el kde puede decepcionar a la gente si pone lenta. |
| 17:29.27 | TuxMeister | egrub, es exactamente lo que dice Thanatermesis |
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| 17:29.35 | egrub | :) |
| 17:30.17 | SteveMyers | Ok quick question |
| 17:30.22 | ee_lars | hello all |
| 17:30.29 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 17:30.35 | TuxMeister | SteveMyers, fire it up! |
| 17:30.38 | Thanatermesis | hello ee_lars |
| 17:31.46 | SteveMyers | I was previously hosted on dhost.info I used the mysql database they gave to me in my cpanel, I now have a different host and want to change mysql server over to the new one, if you goto http://www.geekmirror.com/mirrors you will see it load dhost.info, how do I get mysql to load my previous site on my new host? |
| 17:32.07 | SteveMyers | if you're lost just let me know and I'll rephrase it |
| 17:33.13 | SteveMyers | I'm using e107 cms and I changed the config and when I changed it to my new hosts mysql database it took me to my old hosts website |
| 17:33.16 | egrub | Thanatermesis, elive tiene cupsys? |
| 17:33.26 | egrub | Thanatermesis, es decir elive 0.3 |
| 17:34.00 | Thanatermesis | no, el 0.3 tiene mal soporte para impresoras |
| 17:34.08 | egrub | Bah... |
| 17:34.25 | Thanatermesis | SteveMyers sorry, no idea about mysql |
| 17:34.39 | TuxMeister | :p i understand what you say, but i don't manage databases |
| 17:37.09 | TuxMeister | Thanatermesis, i have a bug for you |
| 17:37.10 | SteveMyers | I manage databases but never came across this problem before |
| 17:37.57 | Thanatermesis | TuxMeister show it :) |
| 17:38.43 | SteveMyers | hehe |
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| 17:39.48 | TuxMeister | Thanatermesis, it's not directly your's but you should take a look to cvs updates... e17 integrated temp module... when you try to configure it, e17 segfaults and you have to restart X.org |
| 17:40.12 | Thanatermesis | TuxMeister http://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Bugs/ |
| 17:40.16 | Thanatermesis | ya, sucks a little |
| 17:40.27 | TuxMeister | it's allready reported? |
| 17:41.00 | Thanatermesis | yep |
| 17:41.22 | TuxMeister | i don't see it |
| 17:42.30 | TuxMeister | SteveMyers, do you touch anything related to wifi under linux? |
| 17:42.37 | TuxMeister | i some problems, and dunno where to ask.. |
| 17:42.46 | SteveMyers | No sir |
| 17:42.49 | SteveMyers | eth0 |
| 17:42.53 | TuxMeister | :p |
| 17:42.57 | SteveMyers | hehe |
| 17:42.59 | SteveMyers | sorry man |
| 17:43.01 | TuxMeister | that says it all |
| 17:43.05 | TuxMeister | :p no problem |
| 17:43.44 | TuxMeister | it's for a a friend... he has a prism2 buffalo pc-card and there's no way to make it work under linux, and we wanna to some tests on breaking wep keys |
| 17:45.23 | Gwildor | prism2 *should* work fairly easy.....i wish i had prism 2 |
| 17:45.24 | Gwildor | :( |
| 17:46.24 | SteveMyers | Tux |
| 17:46.47 | SteveMyers | get the driver from sourceforge and install it, then put the prism2 card in and reboot |
| 17:49.21 | SteveMyers | Oh and I forgot I backed up my database, so I re-installed e107 and will just load the database to that one :) |
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| 17:56.57 | TuxMeister | Gwildor, yep... it should... anyway, how can i really know if it's prism2 compatible? |
| 17:57.17 | TuxMeister | SteveMyers, i'll check on that sourceforge thing |
| 17:57.23 | SteveMyers | ok |
| 17:57.47 | SteveMyers | prism2 is compatible with debian |
| 17:57.52 | SteveMyers | one sec |
| 17:58.58 | TuxMeister | yeah, but i'm talking about what cards are compatible... |
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| 18:00.57 | SteveMyers | TuxMeister, http://www.oclug.on.ca/archives/linux/2005-May/000096.html |
| 18:01.23 | SteveMyers | start there and it just might help a bit, I'm doing some more research to find the compatible cards, but you might find it in there |
| 18:01.48 | TuxMeister | ehm, that's a mail list link |
| 18:02.35 | Gwildor | go to the prism2 support modules homepages to check for compatability |
| 18:02.37 | SteveMyers | I know, but if you click on the Next Message link at the bottom, they give some info |
| 18:03.03 | SteveMyers | that to Gwildor, that's a good source as well |
| 18:03.42 | Gwildor | hostap, linux-wlan-ng, prism54 |
| 18:03.44 | Gwildor | iirc |
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| 18:05.20 | LinuxNIT | atheros chipsets are also compatable with madwifi drivers http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility |
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| 18:06.12 | Smjor | madwifi works wonders! |
| 18:07.18 | LinuxNIT | roxville, you here? |
| 18:09.39 | TuxMeister | my friend's card is buffalo WLI-CB-G54HP with a broadcom bcm4318 chipset |
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| 18:16.37 | Thanatermesis | <TuxMeister> my friend's card is buffalo WLI-CB-G54HP with a broadcom bcm4318 chipset |
| 18:16.59 | Thanatermesis | * ieee80211softmac <-- i think to is this module |
| 18:17.18 | Thanatermesis | TuxMeister if you like to test this kernel with this lot of modules: http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/HowtoInstallKernel#ThebarisopenChoiceyourbetterflavourhellip |
| 18:18.35 | TuxMeister | ok, i'll do that |
| 18:18.37 | TuxMeister | thanks |
| 18:19.09 | Smjor | Thanatermesis, what codec do I need to play elive-essence stream? On a ubuntu machine? |
| 18:19.38 | Thanatermesis | o_O' |
| 18:19.58 | Smjor | shame on me! |
| 18:20.25 | Thanatermesis | Smjor ubuntu don't like to play a totally normal and stardard streamming ? |
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| 18:21.16 | Smjor | Nope, I get a 404 not found! |
| 18:22.30 | Smjor | But if I open the ip in firefox, it says something about a shoutcast audio server |
| 18:23.14 | Smjor | what format is the stream? Ogg vorbis? |
| 18:24.43 | Smjor | I gotta go, back later! |
| 18:25.01 | TuxMeister | see ya Smjor |
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| 18:48.15 | TuxMeister | guys, i'm leaving |
| 18:48.19 | TuxMeister | c u guys later |
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| 19:19.42 | ubushine | hey guys |
| 19:20.19 | LinuxNIT | hey ubushine |
| 19:20.49 | ubushine | i'm back for another round ... i tried installing to an old PII 350 with 190MB ram and it hung (freeze) any hints what i can do, or is that too old hardware to install |
| 19:21.10 | LinuxNIT | where did it freeze? |
| 19:21.13 | ubushine | i tried the live cd with acpi=off |
| 19:21.32 | ubushine | it actually froze 3 times during the livecd usage, just playing and then 2 times during the install |
| 19:22.02 | ubushine | once when gparted was partitioning and 2 times when the installer was in the process of the actuall install |
| 19:22.06 | LinuxNIT | you sure it froze or was it just goin so slow it looked frozen? |
| 19:22.23 | GPLGeek | apt ubuntu |
| 19:22.24 | apt | i heard ubuntu is has a lot of users because the lot of pornography: http://htmldesign.dk/mostwanted/img/Ubuntu_Josie_1_ed3_800.png http://www.theonelab.com/files/images/thumbnails/ubuntu-startup.jpg http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3843/18427557718e22857e9rb.jpg http://www.madebylane.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-babe.png Woooha ! Im go to ubuntu ! :D~~ |
| 19:22.24 | ubushine | nope frozen -- couldn't move mouse couldn't ssh in |
| 19:22.32 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 19:22.36 | ubushine | GPLGeek, apt? |
| 19:22.51 | GPLGeek | had to show a friend lol |
| 19:22.51 | ubushine | sorry |
| 19:22.56 | LinuxNIT | ubushine, apt is the name of a bot in here |
| 19:23.02 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 19:23.03 | ubushine | ya, sorry |
| 19:23.37 | LinuxNIT | ubushine, i dont know sorry |
| 19:23.41 | ubushine | you think the hardware is too old? is elive meant for newer hardware |
| 19:23.55 | LinuxNIT | youd have to ask Thanatermesis or GPLGeek about that |
| 19:24.32 | ubushine | LinuxNIT, thanks -- well if either of them see these messages hopefully they'll respond |
| 19:24.41 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 19:25.06 | Thanatermesis | maybe your hardware is incompatible with this kernel/boot, try "failsafe" in the boot.. or wait the next version of Elive |
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| 19:25.11 | Thanatermesis | to has a diferent kernel/system |
| 19:25.16 | LinuxNIT | there a go ;) |
| 19:25.29 | LinuxNIT | brb |
| 19:25.46 | ubushine | Thanatermesis, thanks. i loved playing with it. great job you've done. beautiful distro. |
| 19:26.03 | GPLGeek | ubushine, my bet is that your hardware is dammaged |
| 19:26.15 | Thanatermesis | thanks ubushine |
| 19:26.24 | ubushine | well i tried 'damn small linux' and 'slax' and they both worked ok. |
| 19:27.27 | ubushine | GPLGeek, i actually ended up instaling 'dsl' just to see if their live installer would work. and it did. |
| 19:27.40 | ubushine | 2.4 kernel though |
| 19:27.51 | withoutclass | what was ubushine's problem? |
| 19:28.24 | ubushine | elive froze (hung) during elive usage. and during install |
| 19:28.47 | ubushine | old pc PIII 350, 192MB ram |
| 19:28.52 | withoutclass | oOo |
| 19:29.21 | wasynyt | how old harddrive |
| 19:29.25 | ubushine | i'll try the failsafe boot option see if that does anything |
| 19:29.55 | ubushine | harddrive is 10gig western digital, it's fine, but maybe 5 years old |
| 19:30.14 | wasynyt | ahh ok.. i thought you may have extremely slow hd |
| 19:30.42 | GPLGeek | we have had elive run on 486's |
| 19:30.43 | ubushine | ubuntu live cd -- damn small linux live cd and install -- mepix 3.4 -- and slax live -- all worked |
| 19:31.12 | ubushine | GPLGeek, good to know. maybe there's still chance for this old pc |
| 19:31.15 | GPLGeek | I blame unionfs |
| 19:31.46 | ubushine | oh? |
| 19:31.58 | Thanatermesis | <ubushine> old pc PIII 350, 192MB ram |
| 19:32.01 | Thanatermesis | this is perfect for Elive |
| 19:32.03 | wasynyt | apt unionfs |
| 19:32.05 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, unionfs is a stackable unification filesystem. See http://www.fsl.cs.sunysb.edu/project-unionfs.html for details. |
| 19:32.34 | ubushine | Thanatermesis, well that's what i have and it freezes. i'm just curious why the ubuntu live, mepis live and slax live don't freeze it |
| 19:32.52 | Thanatermesis | ubushine because is a total diferent system |
| 19:32.58 | ubushine | ya |
| 19:33.01 | Thanatermesis | you don't have luck with your hardware on Elive |
| 19:33.03 | withoutclass | bites u cant get a log of what happens |
| 19:33.04 | Thanatermesis | this is all |
| 19:33.21 | Thanatermesis | on THIS version of Elive |
| 19:33.26 | Thanatermesis | kenrel, autodetectsion... etc |
| 19:33.29 | Thanatermesis | wait the next release |
| 19:33.46 | ubushine | i actually tried to switch to another terminal (ctrl-alt-f2) and it was compaining about hdc |
| 19:33.49 | wasynyt | hmm where is the elive roadmap located? |
| 19:33.55 | ubushine | maybe it doesn't like my cd-rom drive |
| 19:34.12 | Thanatermesis | hdc ? |
| 19:34.17 | Thanatermesis | this is errors reading the CD |
| 19:34.22 | ubushine | Thanatermesis, yes /dev/hdc |
| 19:34.27 | Thanatermesis | this is errors reading the CD |
| 19:34.30 | ubushine | Thanatermesis, yes, i thought so |
| 19:34.31 | Thanatermesis | check the MD5 of the iso |
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| 19:34.58 | ubushine | Thanatermesis, i have done. and it was good. i used the same elive cd on 2 other pcs and it was fine there. |
| 19:35.06 | Thanatermesis | and record it in another type of CD (of course 700 Mb), and if is posible from another machine to has another record... and a final posibility is your CD reader device |
| 19:35.10 | ubushine | maybe elive just doesn't like my cd drive |
| 19:35.18 | Thanatermesis | no... |
| 19:35.22 | Thanatermesis | its errors reading the CD |
| 19:35.26 | Thanatermesis | your CD reader is too old |
| 19:35.34 | Thanatermesis | its a laptop ? |
| 19:35.40 | GPLGeek | clean out the drive maybe the optical head in your old system is dirty |
| 19:35.46 | Thanatermesis | your CD reader has difficults reading some CDs |
| 19:35.49 | ubushine | Thanatermesis, no, it's an old compaq deskpro EN |
| 19:35.51 | GPLGeek | maybe dust in the tray too |
| 19:36.16 | Thanatermesis | ubushine then buy a new CD reader... a CD reader (or also recorder) is actually in a very low price |
| 19:36.22 | ubushine | i'll try to take out the cd bay and cleaning it |
| 19:36.33 | ubushine | Thanatermesis, yes, i'll try that. |
| 19:36.43 | Thanatermesis | by the same price to a packet of cigarretes you can buy a cd reader :) |
| 19:37.12 | ubushine | Thanatermesis, lol. i don't smoke. bad for your health. i want to live long and play with your awesome distro. ;) |
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| 19:37.32 | Elive_user | hello |
| 19:37.35 | wasynyt | hello |
| 19:37.39 | GPLGeek | Elive in now way condemns or condones smoking, smoke at your own risk, side effects may include catching on fire or death. |
| 19:37.50 | ubushine | lol |
| 19:38.00 | Thanatermesis | ubushine if you don't smoke don't need to worry about the money then :) |
| 19:39.01 | withoutclass | oh, Thanatermesis , the ati drivers work fine on 2.6.12, using it now |
| 19:39.03 | ubushine | Thanatermesis, yes of course. i actually have some Euros put away for some new hardware |
| 19:39.40 | ubushine | thanks for the tips everyone. |
| 19:39.57 | ubushine | Thanatermesis, thank you again for the amazing work you've done on elive |
| 19:40.33 | GPLGeek | I just can't wait for people to start donating. I want thana to have new test hardware. |
| 19:40.41 | Thanatermesis | withoutclass what is 2.6.12 ? :) |
| 19:40.44 | Thanatermesis | i have forget it... |
| 19:40.51 | Thanatermesis | in sometimes i delete it from the repositories |
| 19:41.05 | Thanatermesis | thanks ubushine :) |
| 19:41.24 | ubushine | cheers |
| 19:41.25 | wasynyt | i think withoutclass meant kernel 2.6.12 |
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| 19:41.48 | Thanatermesis | wasynyt yes... i know.. i just say to we don't use more it.. im working fully for the 2.6.15 and the new system |
| 19:41.55 | wasynyt | ok :D |
| 19:42.02 | Thanatermesis | 2.6.12 is not more maintained in any thing |
| 19:42.23 | wasynyt | Thanatermesis, where can i find the elive roadmap? so that i could follow the development |
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| 19:46.32 | Thanatermesis | wasynyt is all in http://thana.no-ip.org/trac |
| 19:46.55 | wasynyt | ok thanks |
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| 19:52.06 | danixer1 | Thanatermesis: aleki here.. booting ... test release soon :) |
| 19:52.20 | danixer1 | its cooool |
| 19:52.21 | danixer1 | :) |
| 19:52.36 | danixer1 | and simple |
| 19:52.41 | danixer1 | which you might love |
| 19:54.02 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 19:54.25 | danixer1 | its primarilyl one shell library :) |
| 19:54.41 | danixer1 | + initramfs hacks + some other |
| 19:54.47 | danixer1 | + live patching system (like deliver) |
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| 20:14.56 | Elive_user81 | Hello! |
| 20:15.41 | Elive_user81 | I hav probs instaling Elive to my Hd, the gparted seeks for devices for ever? |
| 20:15.59 | Elive_user81 | any sugestions? |
| 20:23.31 | Thanatermesis | close it and don't use it |
| 20:23.47 | Thanatermesis | launch from a terminal "cfdisk" or any program of you like for patition your hard disk |
| 20:23.55 | Thanatermesis | and continue after with the installation |
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| 20:26.35 | Elive_user81 | The thing is I have allready the disk with partitions but they are allready filled with slackware my thougt was to emty them and install Elive instead. Any good chanses for success. Should I umount them first? |
| 20:26.52 | egrub | Slackware!!! |
| 20:27.11 | Elive_user81 | Yeas! |
| 20:27.21 | Elive_user81 | 10.2 |
| 20:28.35 | egrub | :) |
| 20:29.09 | Elive_user81 | Shouldn't Elive over write slackware and find the swap partition? |
| 20:29.55 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user81 Elive found automatically and use your swap |
| 20:30.35 | danixer1 | he is talking about installation imho |
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| 20:32.43 | Thanatermesis | danixer1 yes, im also :) |
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| 20:37.04 | Elive_user81 | Ok! Gparted found all my partitions: boot:/dev/hda6 is ext3, swap: /dev/hda7 root is /dev/hda8. Should I reformat them and continue with tht installation? |
| 20:38.25 | Elive_user81 | hda1, hda2 and hda5 I use for windows for other family members |
| 20:39.11 | Thanatermesis | the format step is after... just format the partitions of you want to use for Elive, all is asked after |
| 20:39.20 | Thanatermesis | gparted is just for resize or create new partitions |
| 20:42.58 | Elive_user81 | ok! I'll make a try... |
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| 21:06.41 | SteveMyers | roxville, you here? |
| 21:06.59 | SteveMyers | n/m :) |
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| 21:14.37 | Mutacion | qiubole |
| 21:15.05 | quidam- | Mutacion, :-***** |
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| 21:16.03 | Mutacion | oye quidam una pregunta |
| 21:16.09 | Mutacion | fijate qe en la skul levante una pag en apache.. |
| 21:16.46 | Mutacion | esta en red de la skul.. total por medio del firewall de la skul.. lograron sacar esa pc con un ip publico |
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| 21:16.47 | Mutacion | http://uvmsaltillo.dyndns.info/claroline/ mira es esa |
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| 21:18.35 | quidam- | Mutacion, tengo el anxho de banda hasta los webos |
| 21:18.46 | quidam- | es que estoy subiendo el sistema base de Ulanix para un server |
| 21:18.57 | quidam- | para que lo puedan explorar desde cualquier parte xP |
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| 21:20.04 | Mutacion | velo w..no te tardas nada |
| 21:20.36 | quidam- | uqen o me abren las paginas |
| 21:20.40 | Mutacion | esqe has de cuenta qe se tarda un madrazo en entrar a esa pc..no sabes pq? o algo? |
| 21:20.57 | quidam- | pss hay una forma de acelerar apache |
| 21:21.00 | Mutacion | msdos tndra algo como nmap? |
| 21:21.04 | quidam- | pero la conoce es pinita y no esta conectada |
| 21:22.19 | Mutacion | esqe esta bien lenta esa cosa :s no se pq |
| 21:23.20 | quidam- | psss ta medio extraño |
| 21:23.24 | quidam- | es gnu/linux? |
| 21:23.26 | quidam- | xP |
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| 21:24.20 | Rasko|nikov | holaaa |
| 21:24.22 | Rasko|nikov | Thanatermesis, q tal? |
| 21:24.35 | Mutacion | es debian :P |
| 21:24.57 | Mutacion | esta bastante raro.. tmb la pag qe levante.. mmm.. |
| 21:25.02 | Thanatermesis | aqui currando para variar Rasko|nikov =) |
| 21:25.51 | Mutacion | ese thana |
| 21:26.01 | Thanatermesis | ese Mutacion |
| 21:26.04 | Mutacion | apt x es-es es-mex currando |
| 21:26.08 | Mutacion | xD..qe es currando? |
| 21:26.33 | Mutacion | apt url |
| 21:26.35 | apt | hmm... url is (Universal Resource Locator) This is what is used to give Web addresses for HTML, VRML, WAV and other files. It simply contains the Internet name of the machine containing the data and the path to the file. Much like the UNC, except specifically for the Internet. The address also includes what protocol should be used. |
| 21:28.44 | Rasko|nikov | Thanatermesis, usas sid? |
| 21:29.08 | Thanatermesis | Rasko|nikov etch etch |
| 21:29.16 | Thanatermesis | Mutacion currando = trabjaar |
| 21:37.08 | egrub | Thanatermesis, Mutacion es mexicano por eso no sabe que es currar |
| 21:37.27 | Mutacion | hehe thana ya sabe qe soy mexicano |
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| 21:37.34 | Thanatermesis | jejeje |
| 21:37.39 | egrub | Ah Esta bien. :) |
| 21:40.29 | WizCraker | Does anybody know if I can send to subdirectories with tftp? |
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| 21:54.34 | pycs | <Thanatermesis>, how's the short-cut key tutorial going? :) |
| 21:54.54 | Thanatermesis | pycs make a look http://thana.no-ip.org/trac |
| 21:55.00 | Thanatermesis | is writed in the main page i think |
| 21:55.22 | Thanatermesis | yes http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/EnlightenmentBasicTutorial |
| 21:57.31 | pycs | thanks thana... :) |
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| 22:02.10 | pycs | i'll check every now and then for updates.. heheh... |
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| 22:06.12 | Thanatermesis | withoutclass no any problem for this moments with fglrx ? |
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| 22:52.56 | SteveMyers | Thana |
| 22:53.24 | SteveMyers | Can you give me a banner for elive so I can advertise it for you? |
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| 22:56.43 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es Can you give me a banner for elive so I can advertise it for you? |
| 22:57.14 | Thanatermesis | a banner of Elive ? mmmh |
| 22:57.21 | Thanatermesis | maybe the new logo is good ? |
| 23:04.20 | SteveMyers | hmm |
| 23:08.55 | SteveMyers | Thanatermesis, http://www.geekmirror.com How does it look? |
| 23:09.09 | SteveMyers | it's only 4 hours old, so bare with me on it's work |
| 23:09.22 | SteveMyers | Took a long time to get it where it is |
| 23:10.06 | SteveMyers | I need to add something to the right of the header, but I think I'll add a nice banner for elive |
| 23:12.39 | SteveMyers | err sorry |
| 23:12.42 | SteveMyers | one sec |
| 23:13.01 | SteveMyers | ok those who were looking, hit refresh |
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| 23:26.54 | Thanatermesis | fucking isp... |
| 23:27.04 | rookmoot | you too Thanatermesis ? :)) |
| 23:27.12 | o[WildChild]o | rookmoot, ! :D |
| 23:27.20 | o[WildChild]o | ca va sale sale :) |
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| 23:30.27 | Elive_user | luckyfred |
| 23:31.03 | withoutclass | sup Elive_user |
| 23:31.28 | Elive_user | hi |
| 23:31.31 | SteveMyers | That's the first time I've ever seen thana curse like that |
| 23:31.36 | SteveMyers | that was pretty damn funny |
| 23:31.38 | Elive_user | sorry i'm new in irc |
| 23:31.38 | SteveMyers | lol |
| 23:32.37 | withoutclass | oh, he does it sometimes when i stump him or something doesnt compile properly |
| 23:33.14 | withoutclass | hey, where can you set up the browser in xchat so that i can actually click on a link instead of copy and paste |
| 23:33.15 | SteveMyers | lol |
| 23:33.35 | SteveMyers | actually, with xchat just highlight and ctrl+c |
| 23:34.22 | withoutclass | why would i copy paste |
| 23:35.01 | SteveMyers | not sure, I just highlight ctrl+c and then paste in the address bar with xchat |
| 23:35.25 | withoutclass | so much work |
| 23:35.26 | SteveMyers | if it's a url I would do that, samething with regular text |
| 23:35.29 | SteveMyers | I know :p |
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| 23:37.03 | Thanatermesis | sorry SteveMyers, i don't have good understand about the site... |
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| 23:39.05 | SteveMyers | Geek Mirror is mainly about hosting mirrors for users to stay updated on elive and also other mirrors of different linux distributions. We also provide user supported news of desktop releases, and also downloads in the Gallery. We also provide links to hosting sites, special advertisements such as referral links to products that users are selling on their websites, linux portal websites and Source forge news as well |
| 23:40.27 | Gwildor | SteveMyers, "we" meaning you? |
| 23:40.52 | SteveMyers | Well, not just myself, but staff involved |
| 23:40.58 | SteveMyers | I've got buddies working with me on this |
| 23:41.14 | SteveMyers | I've done mainly most of the work, but they give me some ideas and etc |
| 23:41.24 | Gwildor | well, yeah.... url plz |
| 23:41.42 | SteveMyers | http://www.geekmirror.com |
| 23:42.03 | Gwildor | ty |
| 23:42.16 | SteveMyers | It's a new site, but lots of work is still needed |
| 23:42.31 | SteveMyers | yw |
| 23:42.37 | Gwildor | im up for helping, if your taking offers |
| 23:42.51 | SteveMyers | Actually I am needing desperate help |
| 23:43.02 | SteveMyers | What skills do you have? |
| 23:43.20 | Gwildor | bostaff, drawing |
| 23:43.30 | SteveMyers | anything on php or html? |
| 23:43.40 | Gwildor | html....but nothing from scratch |
| 23:43.54 | SteveMyers | no worries, you able to fix code from an active .html file? |
| 23:43.54 | Gwildor | i wish to learn php, so this would be a good place to test what i am learning |
| 23:44.04 | Gwildor | yes, that i can do |
| 23:44.09 | SteveMyers | awesome, ok |
| 23:44.19 | Gwildor | ive spent a few hours recently fixing code so that it works properly in IE |
| 23:44.38 | SteveMyers | hmm sounds good |
| 23:44.52 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 23:44.55 | Gwildor | TWAS UGLY CODE.......but works |
| 23:45.04 | SteveMyers | How about news, are you pretty well set on posting news and announcements? |
| 23:45.27 | Gwildor | i can handle posting....ive got plenty of free time monday thru friday |
| 23:45.40 | SteveMyers | yeah I hear ya :) |
| 23:45.53 | SteveMyers | don't mind me asking this question |
| 23:45.56 | SteveMyers | but how old are you? |
| 23:45.59 | Gwildor | i myself dont have much to say.....but can take care of refining and getting whatgever you need posted |
| 23:46.01 | Gwildor | 21 |
| 23:46.07 | SteveMyers | awesome, 22 here |
| 23:46.14 | Gwildor | 22 july 2 |
| 23:46.21 | SteveMyers | good deal :) |
| 23:46.28 | SteveMyers | just turned feb 20th |
| 23:46.31 | Gwildor | geekroom channel? |
| 23:46.38 | Gwildor | happy B-Day 8D |
| 23:46.38 | SteveMyers | #geekmirror |
| 23:46.41 | SteveMyers | ty |
| 23:46.43 | SteveMyers | :) |
| 23:46.45 | Gwildor | mind if i join? |
| 23:46.51 | SteveMyers | feel free |
| 23:47.11 | Gwildor | remind me tommarow to add that to my auto join list :D |
| 23:47.43 | SteveMyers | np :) |
