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`00:03.04`	`roxville`	`he could've said thank you...`
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`00:31.49`	`knix`	`yh`
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`00:36.49`	`TuxMeister`	`hey guys`
`00:37.24`	`LinuxNIT`	`hiya TuxMeister`
`00:37.40`	`TuxMeister`	`hey, wassup LinuxNIT`
`00:38.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`not much.. just had a bannan split for dinner :>`
`00:38.39`	`TuxMeister`	`:p`
`00:39.31`	`TuxMeister`	`Thanatermesis, are you around here?`
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`00:46.21`	`pycs`	`apt beer`
`00:46.29`	`apt`	`i guess beer is ummm, ummm good!, or good for you!... not just for breakfast anymore`
`00:47.30`	`pycs`	`how do i add kde in entrance? is it possible?`
`00:47.57`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmm`
`00:48.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`theoreticaly i hear it is`
`00:48.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`lets see what we can figure out`
`00:49.46`	`pycs`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:53.06`	`pycs`	`and i dont like to download any other distros just to try kde.. LoL`
`00:55.24`	`TuxMeister`	`apt bad kde`
`00:55.45`	`apt`	`Bad kde, bad! No cookie for you!`
`00:55.55`	`TuxMeister`	`:p`
`00:55.56`	`TuxMeister`	`night!`
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`00:57.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`oops`
`00:57.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`accedentily shutdown lol`
`00:57.41`	`pycs`	`heheh..`
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`01:04.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`pycs,`
`01:04.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`you here?`
`01:04.42`	`pycs`	`yes.. still here..`
`01:04.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`http://edevelop.org/node/2213`
`01:04.53`	`pycs`	`ok thanks..`
`01:05.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`i think thats what youre loking for`
`01:05.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`*looking`
`01:05.27`	`pycs`	`i'll read it now.. :)`
`01:05.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
`01:05.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt kde`
`01:06.12`	`apt`	`i heard kde is #kde - meet the community, http://www.kde.org/`
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`01:17.09`	`pycs`	`brb :)`
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`01:20.51`	`pycs`	`LinuxNIT, im in kde thanks.. :)`
`01:21.08`	`roxville`	`you are?`
`01:21.22`	`roxville`	`and you logged in via entrance?`
`01:21.27`	`pycs`	`desktop, heheh..`
`01:21.32`	`pycs`	`yes roxville`
`01:21.57`	`roxville`	`very good!`
`01:22.04`	`roxville`	`how does it seem?`
`01:22.13`	`pycs`	`thanks to LinuxNIT`
`01:22.30`	`pycs`	`actually, fine.. just fine...`
`01:22.58`	`pycs`	`i mean it does not compare to e, yes, but just fine, LoL`
`01:22.58`	`roxville`	`yep, he's a good dude to have around... i think he used you as a guinea pig though...`
`01:23.16`	`pycs`	`LoL`
`01:26.19`	`pycs`	`in kde 3.5 the performnce is kinda faster now..`
`01:27.51`	`roxville`	`cool!`
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`01:28.50`	`Gwildor`	`roxville,`
`01:28.53`	`Gwildor`	`??`
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`01:29.38`	`Serroba`	`hi`
`01:29.50`	`Serroba`	`i have a new problem`
`01:30.05`	`Serroba`	`now, is with amsn`
`01:30.44`	`Serroba`	`unable to get a socket from localhost. Check your /etc/hosts file, please`
`01:30.53`	`Serroba`	`any idea??`
`01:40.38`	`roxville`	`sorry Serroba ... i'm not very good at that stuff`
`01:40.47`	`roxville`	`hang on though, and ask again`
`01:40.56`	`roxville`	`you can also ask in spanish if you want`
`01:46.19`	`SteveMyers`	`If I was on Elive I could help, but I forget what part it is that you need to edit :-/`
`01:46.28`	`knix`	`:-)`
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`01:47.35`	`SteveMyers`	`my feet are so cold`
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`02:04.31`	`sinplomo`	`SteveMyers, http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2005/11/usb_slippers.html`
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`02:04.55`	`SteveMyers`	`LOL`
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`02:30.17`	`revdjenk`	`another weird thing happened...my elpanel icon disappeared from the ibar`
`02:30.18`	`revdjenk`	`whoa what is a nestsplit?`
`02:30.23`	`roxville`	`it's when half the channel disappears at once`
`02:30.23`	`revdjenk`	`back again...I presume`
`02:30.23`	`roxville`	`:)`
`02:30.24`	`roxville`	`and then returns...`
`02:30.25`	`revdjenk`	`meanwhile a shake machine in Peoria gets added power?`
`02:30.25`	`roxville`	`sometimes a bunch of ppl time outat the same time... it's a glitch in the not...`
`02:30.27`	`revdjenk`	`as long as you are still here with me...I feel safe...(kiss kiss) hee hee`
`02:30.29`	`roxville`	`no problem... i just wish you'd shave first...`
`02:30.29`	`roxville`	`you remind me of my mom!`
`02:30.31`	`revdjenk`	`so I'm hardwired in ... couldn't go w/o an elive fix`
`02:30.31`	`revdjenk`	`I knew my underarms needed attention`
`02:30.32`	`revdjenk`	`so what is new in the elive world since Friday?`
`02:30.34`	`roxville`	`underarms? i was talking about your face`
`02:30.35`	`revdjenk`	`same diff`
`02:30.43`	`roxville`	`lol`
`02:30.44`	`roxville`	`thana has started testing what will eventually become 0.5... pretty exciting`
`02:30.44`	`roxville`	`but when asked, he's very very secretive...`
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`02:37.22`	`rumplerev`	`roxville....are you still there?`
`02:40.25`	`rumplerev`	`using kernel .15 with 17`
`02:40.26`	`rumplerev`	`noticeable boot speed increase (wish I have measured before and after)`
`02:40.26`	`rumplerev`	`Weird thing with ibar:`
`02:40.26`	`rumplerev`	`using elpanel, installed writer and impress icons - the impress icon disappeared after first reboot...their is empty space in the ibar where this icon had been, and impress opens when you click in the open space...writer icon is fine and functional`
`02:40.26`	`rumplerev`	`Then tonight, elpanel icon disappeared from ibar and had to be reinstalled by starting elpanel through terminal`
`02:41.09`	`rumplerev`	`disappeared as clicked on it`
`02:43.42`	`LinuxNIT`	`rumplerev, this happend after installing the new kernel?`
`02:44.02`	`rumplerev`	`yes...`
`02:44.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`and never before?`
`02:44.18`	`rumplerev`	`this is revdjenk don't mind the new name`
`02:44.23`	`rumplerev`	`that`
`02:44.24`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh hey`
`02:44.29`	`rumplerev`	`that's when I noticed it`
`02:44.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`what about if you boot the older (.12) kernel`
`02:44.51`	`LinuxNIT`	`?`
`02:45.09`	`rumplerev`	`didn't happen with .12 kernel or in 16...couldn't add icon to 16...too esorteric for me`
`02:45.39`	`rumplerev`	`You mean I ahve to go back? nooo I love .15`
`02:46.05`	`LinuxNIT`	`just to test and see if the problem occurs in .12 after the install`
`02:46.26`	`rumplerev`	`and Thana's new rt2500 driver now has wireless active...but still no connection...`
`02:46.41`	`rumplerev`	`is there a way to check on channel selection? I wonder if that is a prob`
`02:47.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`have you tired haveing your pc build the driver you self?`
`02:47.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`its easy`
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`02:47.18`	`rumplerev`	`well in .12 I had installed writer icon alone...and it never had a prob`
`02:47.49`	`rumplerev`	`build from source, you mean?`
`02:47.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeah`
`02:48.47`	`rumplerev`	`haven't tried that...because this reports as active..except it isn't for some reason`
`02:48.58`	`LinuxNIT`	`its worth a shot`
`02:49.05`	`LinuxNIT`	`wait`
`02:49.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`how do you know its not active?`
`02:49.41`	`rumplerev`	`because w/o lan connected I have no internet activity`
`02:50.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`did you configure the connection?`
`02:50.04`	`rumplerev`	`and I am w/i six feet of router`
`02:50.39`	`rumplerev`	`configured and activated, yes...I checked again...maybe I should refresh it`
`02:51.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`through elpanel?`
`02:51.51`	`rumplerev`	`yes, just checked...all the properties are correct and says eht1 (my wireless) is enabled`
`02:51.57`	`LinuxNIT`	`do this`
`02:52.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`open a terminal`
`02:52.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`become root and type iwconfig`
`02:52.53`	`rumplerev`	`clicked on term icon on ibar...and it just disappeared!`
`02:53.01`	`LinuxNIT`	`:) wierd`
`02:53.17`	`LinuxNIT`	`lets play with wifi atm`
`02:53.20`	`rumplerev`	`ok term open`
`02:53.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`su`
`02:53.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`iwconfig`
`02:53.54`	`rumplerev`	`su`
`02:54.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`su << become root`
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`02:55.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`are you root?`
`02:55.20`	`rumplerev`	`http://pastebin.com/611774`
`02:55.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`looks good`
`02:55.52`	`rumplerev`	`where is channel?`
`02:56.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`iwlist eth1 scanning`
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`02:56.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`mine dosent have channel either :)`
`02:56.35`	`rumplerev`	`OK on 6, the correct channed`
`02:56.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`iwlist eth1 scanning`
`02:56.55`	`rumplerev`	`ah...ESSID missing just has ""`
`02:57.02`	`Elive_user`	`alguien que hable español???`
`02:57.23`	`rumplerev`	`ein Bischen`
`02:57.31`	`rumplerev`	`jejeje`
`02:57.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`rumplerev, any scan results?`
`02:58.05`	`rumplerev`	`yes...let me pastebin`
`02:58.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
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`02:58.43`	`Chucky_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:58.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`hey Chucky_`
`02:59.00`	`Chucky_`	`hi!!`
`02:59.03`	`rumplerev`	`http://pastebin.com/611777`
`02:59.21`	`rumplerev`	`chucky...chucky...chucky`
`02:59.32`	`Chucky_`	`i don't speak english so nice :s`
`02:59.42`	`LinuxNIT`	`umm rumplerev whats up with the ESSID?`
`02:59.49`	`Chucky_`	`I'm from Venezuela!`
`02:59.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`did you set one on your router?`
`02:59.52`	`rumplerev`	`that was my question`
`02:59.57`	`rumplerev`	`yes`
`03:00.02`	`LinuxNIT`	`what did you set it to?`
`03:00.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`Chucky_, cool im from USA :)`
`03:00.32`	`rumplerev`	`it works with that distro which will remain unnamed and windoze`
`03:00.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:00.55`	`Chucky_`	`I went to Usa past December`
`03:00.56`	`rumplerev`	`it show correctly in the properties`
`03:01.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`is the router told to hide the essid?`
`03:01.29`	`Chucky_`	`my aunt lives in south carolina! :D`
`03:01.29`	`rumplerev`	`it should be the same as in the iwconfig results I sent you`
`03:01.45`	`rumplerev`	`yes...i have it set that way`
`03:01.51`	`LinuxNIT`	`ah ha`
`03:01.57`	`rumplerev`	`ah ha`
`03:02.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`south carolins is humid`
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`03:02.37`	`knix`	`hi`
`03:02.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`do dhclient eth1`
`03:02.39`	`knix`	`hola`
`03:02.43`	`Chucky_`	`what do you mean with humid`
`03:02.44`	`rumplerev`	`hey knix`
`03:02.48`	`Chucky_`	`hola knix`
`03:02.59`	`knix`	`sip?`
`03:03.07`	`Chucky_`	`si qe?`
`03:03.17`	`rumplerev`	`chucky, high water vapor in the air`
`03:03.24`	`rumplerev`	`= humid`
`03:03.31`	`Chucky_`	`je je je je je, ok, ok I got it!!`
`03:03.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:04.04`	`rumplerev`	`the air "sweats"`
`03:04.05`	`LinuxNIT`	`rumplerev, what did that get you?`
`03:04.26`	`rumplerev`	`sorry...I missed that...let me type`
`03:04.26`	`Chucky_`	`it's very very cold!!`
`03:04.34`	`knix`	`problema con los sources..`
`03:04.38`	`roxville`	`<LinuxNIT> south carolins is humid <-- yes it is... most of the time... at least here in charleston`
`03:05.04`	`Chucky_`	`you're from charleston???`
`03:05.18`	`Chucky_`	`i like your city!!`
`03:05.34`	`rumplerev`	`http://pastebin.com/611784`
`03:06.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`rumplerev, it just recieved an ip address`
`03:06.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`type ifconfig`
`03:06.58`	`LinuxNIT`	`rumplerev, did i lose you?`
`03:07.15`	`rumplerev`	`I'm glad you can make sense of this...http://pastebin.com/611785`
`03:07.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`yes i can`
`03:08.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
`03:08.30`	`roxville`	`yes chucky, i live in charleston`
`03:08.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`rumplerev, your card works`
`03:09.22`	`rumplerev`	`that's what it says...but when I unhook eth0...I don't have any internet`
`03:09.23`	`LinuxNIT`	`rumplerev, i assume you are chatting with me from this pc`
`03:09.27`	`roxville`	`it's pretty cool... almost nowhere to ride a bicycle though, i hate that... you have to take your car even if you're just going across the street`
`03:09.43`	`Chucky_`	`oh Roxville, my aunt lives in conway, and my cousin lives in myrtle beach`
`03:10.02`	`rumplerev`	`yes...with lan connected and active and wireless as well...tried the lan inactive and wireless active...still no connection`
`03:10.42`	`roxville`	`cool, Chucky_ ! i'm from sweden, originally, and haven't been around much.... i was in myrtle beach for about...30 minutes, i think :) lool`
`03:10.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`ok rumplerev do this,, unplug the cable, do ifconfig eth0 down then ifconfig eth1 down then ifconfig eth1 up then dhclient eth1`
`03:10.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`ok?`
`03:11.01`	`rumplerev`	`ok here goes`
`03:11.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`want me to explain all those?`
`03:13.30`	`rumplerev`	`hello`
`03:13.35`	`LinuxNIT`	`hello`
`03:13.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`you wireless?`
`03:14.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`rumplerev, ?`
`03:14.25`	`rumplerev`	`hey...I"m wireless!!!!!`
`03:14.26`	`LinuxNIT`	`btw roxville rumplerev is revjdenk`
`03:14.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`coool`
`03:14.32`	`LinuxNIT`	`coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool`
`03:14.40`	`LinuxNIT`	`see it woooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrkkkssssssssss`
`03:14.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`03:14.47`	`rumplerev`	`Thana.....I'm wireless with elive`
`03:14.52`	`rumplerev`	`!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1`
`03:14.58`	`roxville`	`hehe, yeah i guessed that... he's pretty sneaky, ain't he?`
`03:15.08`	`LinuxNIT`	`rumplerev, the problem was this.....`
`03:15.13`	`roxville`	`put the rev in the back of the nick instead...`
`03:15.14`	`rumplerev`	`yes, but why did it take all this shenanigans?`
`03:15.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`you obtained the ip address while still using the eth0 (wired)`
`03:15.43`	`rumplerev`	`yes, but I was rumpled`
`03:15.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`the pc was still using that card`
`03:15.53`	`rumplerev`	`ah`
`03:15.57`	`LinuxNIT`	`when you unplugged it it got lost`
`03:16.15`	`rumplerev`	`but it was still searching with eth0 eh?`
`03:16.18`	`Chucky_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:16.24`	`rumplerev`	`and not with eth1`
`03:16.26`	`rumplerev`	`?`
`03:16.42`	`LinuxNIT`	`the pc was not looking at eth1 for internet`
`03:16.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`it was still looking at eth0`
`03:17.06`	`*** part/#elive piper (i=piper@190.48.24.167)`
`03:17.16`	`LinuxNIT`	`so we took down both network cards eth0 and eth1 with ifconfig ethX down`
`03:17.37`	`revdjenk`	`cool...that is really how you fixed the audio...right?`
`03:17.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`then brought up eth1 with ifconfig eth1 up`
`03:18.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`then we obtained the ip adress on eth1 with dhclient`
`03:18.17`	`LinuxNIT`	`um im not sure how i fixed that`
`03:18.17`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:18.46`	`revdjenk`	`all I know is it works since then`
`03:19.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, pc gets confused easly going from a configured wired connection to a wireless one`
`03:19.18`	`revdjenk`	`now...why are my ibar icons disappearing?`
`03:19.27`	`revdjenk`	`so do I!`
`03:19.32`	`LinuxNIT`	`if you boot with out the wired connection it should not give you trouble`
`03:19.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`roxville, roxville roxville`
`03:19.52`	`*** join/#elive pycs (n=Elive_us@203.84.186.98)`
`03:19.57`	`revdjenk`	`I booted w/o it, but had it "active"`
`03:20.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`roxville, roxville roxville`
`03:20.18`	`revdjenk`	`oh, found something you can't do...!`
`03:20.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:20.25`	`revdjenk`	`good to know your limits`
`03:20.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:20.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`im not as familiar with the inner workings of E`
`03:21.15`	`LinuxNIT`	`so revdjenk that program i gave you will work in elive as well ;)`
`03:22.02`	`LinuxNIT`	`looks like LinuxNIT's backup has deserted him`
`03:22.04`	`revdjenk`	`I haven't downloaded it with elive, no...I didn't see any reason to since I couldn't get wireless`
`03:22.13`	`revdjenk`	`let me try...`
`03:22.16`	`revdjenk`	`ROXVILLE`
`03:22.25`	`revdjenk`	`w/a little prayer`
`03:22.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`youll have to install python2.3-tk`
`03:22.45`	`revdjenk`	`yes, like before`
`03:23.11`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@dsl468.wk.net)`
`03:23.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, the reason i like the terminal is cause of all the info it gives me`
`03:23.29`	`LinuxNIT`	`that way i can tell exactly what is happening on your pc :>`
`03:23.32`	`revdjenk`	`but I am going to wipe out the distro that will remain unnamed first and edit grub and then do wine and then do e-sowrd`
`03:23.38`	`revdjenk`	`I can see that.`
`03:23.47`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`03:23.47`	`revdjenk`	`I used to be a ms-dos wiz`
`03:23.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`ah`
`03:24.14`	`revdjenk`	`lucky you....`
`03:24.17`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:25.28`	`revdjenk`	`well CAPS and prayers won't bring Roxville around - pooh`
`03:25.36`	`roxville`	`lol`
`03:25.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:25.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`yay the backup has arrived`
`03:25.53`	`Elive_user`	`hey guys why doesn't E16 or E17 add menu items to some of the apps I install?`
`03:25.55`	`revdjenk`	`there he is...hey roxville have a Q`
`03:26.02`	`roxville`	`i have to turn the sound off at night or my wife gets p-o'd`
`03:26.09`	`revdjenk`	`hee hee`
`03:26.10`	`roxville`	`ok, shoot...`
`03:26.15`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, you have to add them yourself :(`
`03:26.29`	`Elive_user`	`ewww`
`03:26.35`	`revdjenk`	`<rumplerev> using kernel .15 with 17`
`03:26.35`	`revdjenk`	`<rumplerev> noticeable boot speed increase (wish I have measured before and after)`
`03:26.36`	`revdjenk`	`<rumplerev> Weird thing with ibar:`
`03:26.36`	`revdjenk`	`<rumplerev> using elpanel, installed writer and impress icons - the impress icon disappeared after first reboot...their is empty space in the ibar where this icon had been, and impress opens when you click in the open space...writer icon is fine and functional`
`03:26.36`	`revdjenk`	`<rumplerev> Then tonight, elpanel icon disappeared from ibar and had to be reinstalled by starting elpanel through terminal`
`03:26.37`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeah :-/`
`03:26.54`	`Elive_user`	`thats cool i guess, at least I know how to do that :)`
`03:27.00`	`revdjenk`	`this is when I was rumplerev`
`03:27.15`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, you know how to add them to the menu?`
`03:27.29`	`revdjenk`	`my term icon also disappeared when I clicked on it just halfhour ago`
`03:27.36`	`Elive_user`	`e16 has a menu editor, I figured through that`
`03:27.45`	`revdjenk`	`17 is easier`
`03:27.55`	`SteveMyers`	`agreed`
`03:28.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:28.13`	`revdjenk`	`apt give Steve a doughnut`
`03:28.20`	`apt`	`ACTION gives a doughnut to Steve`
`03:28.20`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user2 (n=Elive_us@70-101-17-146.dsl2-plymouth.roc.ny.frontiernet.net)`
`03:28.20`	`SteveMyers`	`:D`
`03:28.23`	`SteveMyers`	`ty apt`
`03:28.23`	`roxville`	`yeah, i don't understabd this ibar prob you have rev'd`
`03:28.41`	`revdjenk`	`I don't either...`
`03:28.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`oops`
`03:28.50`	`SteveMyers`	`this chair is hurting my ass, damn`
`03:29.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`jp`
`03:29.17`	`revdjenk`	`nah...he is temp dazed`
`03:29.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`dazed?`
`03:29.31`	`SteveMyers`	`lol`
`03:29.32`	`Elive_user`	`i am having a grub problem though. I did the hard drive install, grub installed, but I still have an old grub whenever I boot up.`
`03:29.47`	`SteveMyers`	`is it the 0.97?`
`03:29.51`	`Elive_user`	`whenever i look at /boot/grub/menu.lst it shows its set up using elive`
`03:30.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`is elive in the grub list at boot?`
`03:30.16`	`SteveMyers`	`you should have 0.97 grub version, if not then I must be way out of date on my version LOL`
`03:30.19`	`Elive_user`	`but in reality its still using my gentoo grub list`
`03:30.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`well two options`
`03:30.57`	`LinuxNIT`	`1 add elive to gentoos menu.list`
`03:31.05`	`LinuxNIT`	`2 reinstall elives grub`
`03:31.06`	`Elive_user`	`whenever I'm in Elive it shows only the Elive set up. I can boot using the livecd into my Elive drive`
`03:31.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`option 1 is easeir`
`03:31.26`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, that is probably what I will end up doing`
`03:31.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`ok need help?`
`03:32.02`	`revdjenk`	`again, for the noob...to edit grub use scite? and what is command`
`03:32.11`	`Elive_user`	`nah, i'll copy my elive menu.lst email it to my gmail account, then boot into gentoo and change it from there`
`03:32.24`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, you dont have to do that`
`03:32.28`	`revdjenk`	`no. I am the noob...I have to do that too`
`03:32.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, what partition did you install gentoo on?`
`03:32.57`	`pycs`	`aren't we all are.. LoL`
`03:33.08`	`LinuxNIT`	`pycs, yes of course`
`03:33.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
`03:33.19`	`Elive_user`	`sda1, I've got winxp on hda1, then elive on hda2`
`03:33.25`	`pycs`	`heheh`
`03:33.43`	`Elive_user`	`i've also got to change my nick, but xchat autmatically put me here`
`03:33.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`ok Elive_user go to /mnt/sda1/boot/grub`
`03:33.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`this is where the menu.list for gentoo should be`
`03:34.10`	`*** join/#elive sinplomo (n=sinplomo@adsl196-150-65-206-196.adsl196-3.iam.net.ma)`
`03:34.26`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, gee i didn't think of doing that!`
`03:34.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
`03:34.41`	`SteveMyers`	`lol`
`03:34.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`with all the dif distros and boot trouble ive had`
`03:35.01`	`revdjenk`	`tahdah...elive irc to the rescue1!!!, again!!!`
`03:35.15`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
`03:35.44`	`revdjenk`	`no more brokeback jokes...`
`03:35.55`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt hit revdjenk`
`03:36.00`	`apt`	`ACTION kicks revdjenk.`
`03:36.09`	`revdjenk`	`oooooh`
`03:36.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, that word was banned`
`03:36.15`	`Elive_user`	`what version of debian does elive use?`
`03:36.18`	`LinuxNIT`	`ethc`
`03:36.19`	`revdjenk`	`right in my COMFY seat`
`03:36.21`	`LinuxNIT`	`etch`
`03:36.31`	`roxville`	`Elive_user, testing/etch`
`03:36.36`	`revdjenk`	`eh SteveMyers`
`03:36.46`	`roxville`	`darn, LinuxNIT beat me to it again...`
`03:36.47`	`Elive_user`	`cool, so its not too far behind ubuntu`
`03:36.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`neeeeeee`
`03:36.54`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:36.56`	`SteveMyers`	`LOL`
`03:37.12`	`Elive_user`	`sorry guys, i'm a big fan of ubuntu`
`03:37.18`	`revdjenk`	`turn up your sound roxville`
`03:37.27`	`revdjenk`	`get a headset`
`03:37.29`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, im sorry`
`03:37.32`	`LinuxNIT`	`;)`
`03:37.41`	`roxville`	`revdjenk, i have a headset...`
`03:37.52`	`revdjenk`	`put it on your head!`
`03:37.53`	`roxville`	`ok, i'll put it on...`
`03:37.53`	`revdjenk`	`hee hee`
`03:38.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`nah i dont have anything against ubuntu. it just drives me crazy for some reason`
`03:38.21`	`LinuxNIT`	`ive still yet to figure out why`
`03:38.37`	`LinuxNIT`	`but i think its a great distro for those that like it`
`03:38.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`heck ive even reccomended it to noobs :>`
`03:39.07`	`revdjenk`	`I tried the automatix script on it...which was cool...except my wireless kept jumping channels on me!`
`03:39.15`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, i used it all the way until i bought an nvidia geforce 6600. it refuses to work with that card`
`03:39.25`	`LinuxNIT`	`that sucks`
`03:39.30`	`Elive_user`	`i've been distro hopping then`
`03:39.35`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
`03:39.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`been there`
`03:39.51`	`LinuxNIT`	`in fact i still distro hop a little :)`
`03:39.55`	`revdjenk`	`welcome to the liveliest one, Eliv_usere`
`03:40.01`	`LinuxNIT`	`but elive is permenant :>`
`03:40.25`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, even using the latest dapper build, fresh installs still don't work on my card. I've read there is a fix, but its about 7 pages long worth of instructions`
`03:40.53`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, too much crap to have to do, when other distros just work.`
`03:40.54`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, did you know if you type the first few letters of a nick then hit tab it will complete the nick for you?`
`03:41.00`	`revdjenk`	`I jsut saw a 4gig CF hard drive for $70 US in the paper today...that should be enough to put elive on and take with me, right?`
`03:41.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, yeah i agree`
`03:41.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`CF?`
`03:41.44`	`revdjenk`	`I knew there was a trick..haven't done enough reading...thanx LinuxNIT`
`03:41.48`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, i think my pc is just finicky. It won't install regular gentoo, but it will do just fine for RR4's live dvd version`
`03:41.50`	`revdjenk`	`hey that worked`
`03:41.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol np`
`03:42.08`	`*** join/#elive yawlright (n=compy@24-52-20-247.sbtnvt.adelphia.net)`
`03:42.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmm`
`03:42.12`	`dererk`	`Whassup?`
`03:42.23`	`revdjenk`	`yawkright!`
`03:42.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`installed couldnt get wifi so i formated it`
`03:43.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`but with my new card things might me dif :>`
`03:43.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`no more ndiswrapper YAY`
`03:43.19`	`dererk`	`LinuxNIT, did you try to do modprobe <module> first? XD`
`03:43.22`	`roxville`	`revdjenk> I jsut saw a 4gig CF hard drive for $70 US in the paper today...that should be enough to put elive on and take with me, right? <- yes it's more than enough`
`03:43.34`	`dererk`	`before reinstalling it XD`
`03:43.39`	`roxville`	`$70??? wow`
`03:43.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`dererk, trust me i tried 50 million ways to get my wifi working in gentoo with that card`
`03:43.53`	`revdjenk`	`yes...`
`03:44.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`that card just sucks`
`03:44.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`especailly for linux`
`03:44.21`	`revdjenk`	`LinuxNIT, I told you a billion times to not exaggerate`
`03:44.21`	`yawlright`	`apt ndiswrapper`
`03:44.28`	`roxville`	`revdjenk, it's a compact flash card... so you need something with a card reader`
`03:44.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:44.33`	`revdjenk`	`yes, understood`
`03:44.37`	`dererk`	`LinuxNIT, hehe, j/k`
`03:44.57`	`roxville`	`talk to GPLGeek to see how to make it work, revdjenk`
`03:45.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`yawlright, ndiswrapper makes it so you can use MS wifi drivers in linux`
`03:45.22`	`revdjenk`	`I didn't buty it yet, thot it would work though`
`03:45.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`dude you can get like a 100gig hd for $70 new`
`03:46.33`	`Elive_user`	`could one install gnome or KDE and it show up on the window manager?`
`03:46.41`	`revdjenk`	`but not put it in your pocket and boot up another computer with a cool elive screen`
`03:46.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh CF dolt`
`03:46.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`nm`
`03:47.15`	`LinuxNIT`	`*himself even`
`03:47.17`	`revdjenk`	`apt give LinuxNIT a strawberry`
`03:47.19`	`apt`	`ACTION gives a strawberry to LinuxNIT`
`03:47.24`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:47.37`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, yes you can`
`03:47.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`but you have to configure entrance to show them`
`03:48.01`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, did you get grub edited?`
`03:48.13`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user64 (n=Elive_us@softbank219040244045.bbtec.net)`
`03:48.21`	`roxville`	`revdjenk, i have NO idea how to boot from a card reader, though...`
`03:48.22`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, that shouldn't be too hard. Yeah I did. I haven't rebooted to see if it works yet though`
`03:48.37`	`roxville`	`unless you have a usb card reader`
`03:48.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, hang on i had a howto earlier`
`03:48.49`	`revdjenk`	`it should boot as any USB device`
`03:49.20`	`LinuxNIT`	`http://edevelop.org/node/2213`
`03:49.25`	`LinuxNIT`	`i think this is what you want`
`03:49.27`	`revdjenk`	`OH...you were thinking of onboard card reader`
`03:49.38`	`yawlright`	`LinuxNIT, i knew what ndis was, just wondering if apt had anything funny to say about it :P`
`03:49.47`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh sorry`
`03:49.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:50.02`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, cool. thanks!`
`03:50.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt ndiswrapper is dude get a real network card`
`03:50.24`	`apt`	`LinuxNIT: okay`
`03:50.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt ndiswrapper`
`03:50.35`	`apt`	`i guess ndiswrapper is dude get a real network card`
`03:50.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`there ya go yawlright`
`03:51.15`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt now has somthing for ndiswrapper :)`
`03:51.26`	`yawlright`	`now i just am hard wired...way easier`
`03:51.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:51.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`man i got a dwl-g650 with atheros chipset`
`03:51.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`works awsome`
`03:52.04`	`revdjenk`	`thnx to LinuxNIT I am wifi!!`
`03:52.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt forget ndiswrapper`
`03:52.07`	`apt`	`LinuxNIT: i forgot ndiswrapper`
`03:52.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt good boy`
`03:52.19`	`apt`	`:), LinuxNIT`
`03:52.25`	`Elive_user`	`one last thing, and I'll be quiet. :) other than Enlightenment website is there anywhere cool to get new themes and backgrounds for e17?`
`03:52.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`your wellcome revdjenk`
`03:52.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, there are many themes in the apt repos for e17`
`03:53.01`	`LinuxNIT`	`and no worries we love questions`
`03:53.48`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, thanks, I will check them out`
`03:53.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`np`
`03:53.55`	`roxville`	`<revdjenk> thnx to LinuxNIT I am wifi!! <-- it's working?`
`03:54.02`	`revdjenk`	`speaking of themes...I loaded milky, but mine doesn't quite look like the video on milky's website...with the moving txt in the window`
`03:54.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`yes roxville`
`03:54.09`	`revdjenk`	`yes!`
`03:54.15`	`roxville`	`awesome!!!`
`03:54.23`	`LinuxNIT`	`umm revdjenk dont for get Thanatermesis`
`03:54.25`	`revdjenk`	`I had eth1 active...and taking over`
`03:54.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`he got you the driver`
`03:54.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`i just helped you configure it`
`03:54.41`	`revdjenk`	`I sent a couple thanks out to him`
`03:54.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`ok`
`03:54.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`;)`
`03:54.56`	`revdjenk`	`but he must not have heardseen`
`03:55.01`	`LinuxNIT`	`Thanatermesis,'s work was harder than mine`
`03:55.14`	`revdjenk`	`yeah`
`03:55.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`my pleasure`
`03:55.59`	`revdjenk`	`no...stubborn German!`
`03:56.15`	`roxville`	`lol`
`03:56.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, do you still have the package the driver came in?`
`03:56.28`	`revdjenk`	`and the Welsh bit helps too`
`03:56.32`	`yawlright`	`auf deutch?`
`03:56.36`	`revdjenk`	`somewhere`
`03:56.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`yes germans are very stubborn :)`
`03:56.50`	`revdjenk`	`yah..ich spreche ein bischen`
`03:57.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`but doesnt speak a lick of german`
`03:57.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`:<`
`03:57.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, if i was you i would FIND that package and make a copy to keep somewhere safe`
`03:57.43`	`revdjenk`	`you speak more than you know...all our basic English words are German`
`03:57.54`	`revdjenk`	`befoer I trash K`
`03:58.02`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeah i knew that enlish came from german`
`03:58.15`	`revdjenk`	`body parts, colors,`
`03:58.32`	`LinuxNIT`	`as well as everyother lang on earth lol`
`03:58.46`	`revdjenk`	`geschwindigkeit begrendzung, however`
`03:58.47`	`LinuxNIT`	`the english lang is a mixing pot of languanges`
`03:59.49`	`revdjenk`	`literally the "boundary of the speed of the wind" = speed limit`
`04:00.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, you still here?`
`04:00.43`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, yeah i'm just browsing synaptic`
`04:00.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`k`
`04:00.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`are you using e17 or 16?`
`04:01.09`	`revdjenk`	`is that like waxing eloquent?`
`04:01.14`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, is it safe to install alot of the other stuff in the elive section of synaptic`
`04:01.18`	`Elive_user`	`e17 right now`
`04:01.36`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, i'm used to e16, so this is a little different for me`
`04:01.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`should be afaik`
`04:01.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`anything in particular you are worried about?`
`04:02.37`	`revdjenk`	`oh, yes, LinuxNIT, did you install .bbl files directly for e-sword, or did you use wine with the executables?`
`04:02.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`i installed konqueror and have not had problems (other than the loss of 100 MB of disk space)`
`04:02.52`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, not really, i just heard a lot of the modules causes easy crashes`
`04:02.54`	`roxville`	`lol`
`04:03.08`	`revdjenk`	`hey roxy, you will always be the svelte swede to me!`
`04:03.08`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, wine wont run the bible .exe fiels`
`04:03.14`	`roxville`	`Elive_user, yes they may cause segfaults`
`04:03.19`	`revdjenk`	`that's what I thot`
`04:03.34`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user64 (n=Elive_us@softbank219040244045.bbtec.net)`
`04:03.46`	`roxville`	`but try, and if they do, don't use them for a while :)`
`04:03.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`but i asked the esword site to post the .bbl files by themselves`
`04:03.49`	`Elive_user`	`roxville, thanks, i will stay away from them. i think i can do without them, but it is tempting to tinker`
`04:03.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`we will see what happnes`
`04:04.04`	`roxville`	`<roxville> but try, and if they do, don't use them for a while :)`
`04:04.10`	`revdjenk`	`excellent suggestion`
`04:04.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`* roxville watches as LinuxNIT slowly becomes the new master of #elive << im sorry i wasnt trying to take your spot`
`04:05.15`	`roxville`	`LinuxNIT, it ain't my spot dude!`
`04:05.23`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, i use several modules in e17 without trouble`
`04:05.26`	`roxville`	`i'm just trying to make ppl feel welcome`
`04:05.29`	`revdjenk`	`hey, how do you do those * comments`
`04:05.30`	`Elive_user`	`what about like the fire modules and stuff? where is that at?`
`04:05.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh i thought it was`
`04:05.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`oops`
`04:05.37`	`roxville`	`YOU make 'em come back for more`
`04:05.41`	`SteveMyers`	`lol`
`04:05.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`04:06.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`when i got here you were the one i saw helping everyone`
`04:06.27`	`revdjenk`	`and that SteveMyers just "watches" hee hee`
`04:06.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, desktop menu > configuration> config panel > module settings`
`04:06.42`	`SteveMyers`	`LOL`
`04:06.46`	`roxville`	`i do what i can, which i'm sad to say, isn't very much.... but i try to do my share :)`
`04:06.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
`04:06.55`	`revdjenk`	`"I like to watch..."`
`04:06.59`	`SteveMyers`	`that's all I can do until I get back on Elive`
`04:07.02`	`SteveMyers`	`:(`
`04:07.19`	`revdjenk`	`oh, what are you using...and what was your deal killer`
`04:07.29`	`SteveMyers`	`I was helping a lot until I moved to my aunts house up in NC, gotta wait 2 more weeks until I get my new house, 2 more weeks`
`04:07.39`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, thats what i thought, but i don't see the flame one in there`
`04:07.43`	`SteveMyers`	`I know NIT, I gotta be on damn winblows for now`
`04:07.44`	`revdjenk`	`oh that's right!!!`
`04:08.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`i have it`
`04:08.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`04:08.08`	`revdjenk`	`a learning experience....windoze free for four weeks now!`
`04:08.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmmm`
`04:08.14`	`SteveMyers`	`LOL`
`04:08.18`	`SteveMyers`	`it's been hell rev`
`04:08.22`	`SteveMyers`	`memory sucker`
`04:08.25`	`revdjenk`	`phew`
`04:08.37`	`Elive_user`	`revdjenk, hang in there, i've been windows free for over a year. I do only use it for my games`
`04:09.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, do you hae the e-modules package installed?`
`04:09.07`	`SteveMyers`	`Hey rox: mySQL error: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)`
`04:09.12`	`SteveMyers`	`he must be a n00b`
`04:09.13`	`SteveMyers`	`lol`
`04:09.24`	`roxville`	`ya`
`04:09.29`	`revdjenk`	`well, he wouldn't send me a recovery cd...that's what started it with me`
`04:09.35`	`SteveMyers`	`duh, which line is it dock`
`04:09.42`	`SteveMyers`	`the red one you moron`
`04:09.50`	`SteveMyers`	`lol`
`04:09.52`	`Elive_user`	`probably not, i've only installed 2 things since i did this tonight`
`04:10.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`check it?`
`04:10.12`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`04:10.13`	`roxville`	`SteveMyers, according to my gftp, my stuff is still there, though`
`04:10.25`	`SteveMyers`	`yeah yours is still there`
`04:10.27`	`SteveMyers`	`mine as well`
`04:10.32`	`SteveMyers`	`but the database is gone`
`04:10.38`	`SteveMyers`	`I gotta load the backup`
`04:10.44`	`roxville`	`damn...`
`04:10.47`	`SteveMyers`	`which will take like 2 seconds`
`04:10.48`	`SteveMyers`	`lol`
`04:10.57`	`roxville`	`lol`
`04:11.03`	`SteveMyers`	`I knew NIT had something to do with it`
`04:11.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`04:11.24`	`SteveMyers`	`helps people to make himself not noticeable :p`
`04:11.35`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`04:11.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`shit he cought on to me`
`04:11.56`	`SteveMyers`	`yeah, they always said I was pretty damn quick`
`04:11.57`	`SteveMyers`	`lol`
`04:12.02`	`Avg-joe`	`mwahahahah`
`04:12.06`	`SteveMyers`	`lol`
`04:12.06`	`revdjenk`	`hey Steve, my wife and I are looking at churches in the Carolinas...maybe we will join you some day it it all happens`
`04:12.10`	`roxville`	`LOL`
`04:12.19`	`Avg-joe`	`theyll never suspect me now`
`04:12.27`	`SteveMyers`	`what churches rev?`
`04:12.28`	`Avg-joe`	`oops did i type that out loud`
`04:12.33`	`SteveMyers`	`lol`
`04:12.42`	`SteveMyers`	`YES!`
`04:12.43`	`SteveMyers`	`it's up!`
`04:12.49`	`Avg-joe`	`brb`
`04:12.59`	`Elive_user`	`one annoyance i have. whenever i maximize a window, and go too far over, it throws me to the second desktop. how can i stop that?`
`04:13.10`	`SteveMyers`	`rox`
`04:13.13`	`SteveMyers`	`it's far apart`
`04:13.14`	`revdjenk`	`presbyterian...we have scouted out churches w/i 50 miles of Charlotte area, mostly`
`04:13.17`	`SteveMyers`	`look at the header rox`
`04:13.38`	`SteveMyers`	`I go to the one in Lake Park here in our Community`
`04:13.41`	`Avg-joe`	`Elive_user, desktop menu > configuration> config panel > desktop settings`
`04:13.45`	`SteveMyers`	`Indian Trail`
`04:13.46`	`roxville`	`SteveMyers, i told ya it may not be good`
`04:13.46`	`revdjenk`	`Elive_user, you will get the hang of that eventually`
`04:13.52`	`SteveMyers`	`:p`
`04:13.57`	`Avg-joe`	`tell it not to flip when cursoru hits edge of screen`
`04:14.13`	`SteveMyers`	`any way to get more height on the logo2?`
`04:14.24`	`LinuxNIT`	`back`
`04:14.36`	`roxville`	`Elive_user, ctrl+alt+home to align the windows a little better`
`04:14.37`	`revdjenk`	`oh were you gone?`
`04:14.49`	`Elive_user`	`thanks, that was driving me nuts`
`04:15.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`04:15.21`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeah i was taking the DB again`
`04:15.28`	`SteveMyers`	`lol`
`04:15.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`some guy keeps puttin it back up`
`04:15.35`	`LinuxNIT`	`grrrrr`
`04:15.42`	`SteveMyers`	`http://www.geekmirror.com`
`04:15.48`	`SteveMyers`	`like meh header`
`04:15.51`	`SteveMyers`	`hehe`
`04:16.01`	`SteveMyers`	`rox put it together`
`04:16.09`	`SteveMyers`	`just needs a fixer upper`
`04:16.21`	`LinuxNIT`	`cool`
`04:16.40`	`Elive_user`	`i must say i love the elive control panel. is that elive specific or does enlightenment 17 have that with other distros?`
`04:16.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`elive specific`
`04:17.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`hey roxville`
`04:17.11`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, that is very cool. my wife thinks its awesome too`
`04:17.21`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeah i like it.`
`04:17.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`but i didnt make it`
`04:17.58`	`LinuxNIT`	`elive is the work of Thanatermesis`
`04:17.59`	`Elive_user`	`will enlightenment ever NOT be beta?`
`04:18.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`04:18.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`no idea`
`04:18.14`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, i was wondering, for some reason that name stood out`
`04:18.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`Thanatermesis, is the developer`
`04:18.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`GPLGeek, knows a shitload and helps him`
`04:19.02`	`LinuxNIT`	`pardon my french`
`04:19.14`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, no offense here.`
`04:19.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`04:19.25`	`roxville`	`LinuxNIT, ?`
`04:19.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`?`
`04:19.35`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh`
`04:19.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`04:19.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`forgot i called ya`
`04:19.44`	`Elive_user`	`LinuxNIT, i've tried installing elive several times before, but it never worked until the bug fix release came out a few weeks ago`
`04:23.35`	`*** join/#elive Liveengineer (n=Elive_us@203-206-60-148.dyn.iinet.net.au)`
`04:24.05`	`LinuxNIT`	`dude its a living engineer`
`04:24.12`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`04:24.20`	`LinuxNIT`	`sorry i couldnt resist`
`04:24.35`	`Liveengineer`	`hehe howdy`
`04:24.40`	`LinuxNIT`	`howdy`
`04:25.20`	`Liveengineer`	`so what is new in the land of elive`
`04:25.40`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, is new ;)`
`04:26.18`	`revdjenk`	`we are anxiously awaiting v.5...and hello Liveengineer`
`04:26.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, lol`
`04:26.42`	`LinuxNIT`	`impatient are we`
`04:26.47`	`Liveengineer`	`sounds good`
`04:26.52`	`Liveengineer`	`lol`
`04:27.07`	`revdjenk`	`well...have most of the elements, but Thanatermesis always throws in some new surprises`
`04:27.23`	`Elive_user`	`thanks guys for everything tonight. This IRC room is very friendly. Gentoo rooms are very hostile towards people who are new to their distro, and you guys have been awesome`
`04:27.24`	`Liveengineer`	`cool ...like crossover office`
`04:27.27`	`*** join/#elive dererk (n=dererk@unaffiliated/dererk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]`
`04:27.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`our pleasure Elive_user`
`04:27.54`	`revdjenk`	`and LinuxNIT ... it was cool walking thru the house with jazz playing from my laptop thru the net`
`04:27.55`	`Elive_user`	`i'm sure i'll be checking in with you guys later, with a real nick next time.`
`04:27.58`	`Elive_user`	`good night`
`04:28.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`04:28.15`	`revdjenk`	`g'nite Elive_user`
`04:28.15`	`LinuxNIT`	`good night`
`04:29.19`	`revdjenk`	`Liveengineer, what apps are you using with crossover?`
`04:29.39`	`Liveengineer`	`smaartlive`
`04:29.49`	`Liveengineer`	`and thats is all`
`04:30.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`Liveengineer, have you tried the new wine from winehq.com?`
`04:30.12`	`revdjenk`	`is that an engineering app? not familiar`
`04:30.16`	`Liveengineer`	`no not yet`
`04:30.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh`
`04:30.36`	`revdjenk`	`he's spent the money...I'm assuming...right?`
`04:30.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`i was just curious to see how you would compare the two`
`04:30.38`	`Liveengineer`	`sure is rev`
`04:30.55`	`Liveengineer`	`trial`
`04:31.18`	`LinuxNIT`	`cause i heard crossover is an outdated version of wine. and was cuious to see if this was true thats all`
`04:31.36`	`revdjenk`	`yes, I would only need it for google earth`
`04:32.13`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@70-101-17-146.dsl2-plymouth.roc.ny.frontiernet.net)`
`04:32.36`	`Liveengineer`	`i just downloaded the trial crossover and used it at a gig...little slo tho`
`04:33.13`	`revdjenk`	`does more handholding than wine...that may be the big difference`
`04:33.35`	`Liveengineer`	`cool having a look now`
`04:33.37`	`LinuxNIT`	`heck it aint my girlfriend`
`04:33.40`	`LinuxNIT`	`;)`
`04:33.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`jk`
`04:33.46`	`revdjenk`	`:)`
`04:36.03`	`revdjenk`	`well, when .5 comes out, I'm going to turn my elive partition into /home and use the kubuntu partition for elive!`
`04:36.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`:O :O you used a naughty word`
`04:36.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`;)`
`04:37.04`	`revdjenk`	`whoops...I mean the distro that will remain unnamed will be replaced`
`04:37.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`04:37.10`	`revdjenk`	`phew`
`04:37.26`	`LinuxNIT`	`we will let it go this time`
`04:37.27`	`Liveengineer`	`better than the W word`
`04:37.35`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`04:37.39`	`revdjenk`	`:)`
`04:37.47`	`LinuxNIT`	`or the M word`
`04:38.03`	`revdjenk`	`are you on livecd, Liveengineer or installed?`
`04:38.13`	`Liveengineer`	`installed`
`04:38.20`	`revdjenk`	`super...how long for you`
`04:38.30`	`Liveengineer`	`few weeks`
`04:38.41`	`revdjenk`	`same her`
`04:38.43`	`revdjenk`	`here`
`04:39.51`	`revdjenk`	`what has been your best discovery about elive?`
`04:40.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`E`
`04:41.06`	`revdjenk`	`hEE hEE`
`04:41.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh my`
`04:41.35`	`Liveengineer`	`yes the big E`
`04:41.53`	`revdjenk`	`you startEd it...what ElsE could I do?`
`04:43.03`	`revdjenk`	`I havE bEEn lightly razzEd for using anothEr distro...but thEy havE bEEn kind othErwisE`
`04:43.17`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`04:43.23`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, its all in jest`
`04:43.34`	`revdjenk`	`yEs surE`
`04:44.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`shhhhh dont tell anyone`
`04:44.25`	`revdjenk`	`tEsting purposEs!?!?!`
`04:44.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`bet ya never saw that comming`
`04:44.32`	`Liveengineer`	`dEvotion`
`04:44.48`	`revdjenk`	`hee EhEm hEE hEE`
`04:44.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeah i wanted to test how it would run under sudo`
`04:44.58`	`LinuxNIT`	`in that distro`
`04:45.25`	`revdjenk`	`k...domine domine...you are absolved`
`04:45.26`	`LinuxNIT`	`i want ANY user in ANY distro to be able to use my app without trouble`
`04:46.04`	`revdjenk`	`Liveengineer, LinuxNIT has a gui wifi configurator`
`04:46.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`04:47.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, did you install it in elive yet?`
`04:47.16`	`revdjenk`	`nopE`
`04:47.18`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, is one of my guinea pigs`
`04:47.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`04:47.45`	`revdjenk`	`its working now,,,I'm not going to mess with it!!!`
`04:47.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`but dont worry no harm will come to him`
`04:47.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`04:48.59`	`revdjenk`	`btw, low priority but curious...anyone have suspend or hibernate wth Elive and their laptop`
`04:49.29`	`LinuxNIT`	`not elive`
`04:49.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`havent gotten there yet`
`04:49.42`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmm i should try`
`04:49.51`	`revdjenk`	`didn't think I had seen it...like I said, low priority`
`04:49.58`	`LinuxNIT`	`does you unamed distro do it?`
`04:50.40`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, ?`
`04:50.55`	`revdjenk`	`I'm not sure...I never tried to configure...although I saw some forum discussion on it`
`04:51.05`	`LinuxNIT`	`k`
`04:51.24`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@70-101-17-146.dsl2-plymouth.roc.ny.frontiernet.net)`
`04:51.33`	`mickey777`	`hey folks`
`04:51.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`howdy`
`04:52.06`	`revdjenk`	`g'nite almost morning`
`04:52.51`	`mickey777`	`saw v for vendetta tonight`
`04:52.54`	`mickey777`	`wow`
`04:54.05`	`LinuxNIT`	`good aye?`
`04:54.19`	`mickey777`	`uhm not sure, awfully dark and foreboding`
`04:54.20`	`Liveengineer`	`u liked it obviously`
`04:54.24`	`mickey777`	`uhm no`
`04:54.29`	`LinuxNIT`	`ah`
`04:54.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`i see`
`04:54.33`	`mickey777`	`scared the sh*t out of me`
`04:54.47`	`Liveengineer`	`ditto`
`04:54.52`	`mickey777`	`I won't describe it`
`04:54.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`a horror film aye?`
`04:55.02`	`mickey777`	`it's spooky not scary`
`04:55.05`	`mickey777`	`no`
`04:55.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh`
`04:55.35`	`revdjenk`	`too many V's for me`
`04:55.40`	`GPLGeek`	`pong`
`04:55.47`	`LinuxNIT`	`ping`
`04:55.54`	`revdjenk`	`dong`
`04:55.57`	`GPLGeek`	`oh, you just said my name did not need me?`
`04:56.18`	`revdjenk`	`we were extolling your virtues`
`04:56.31`	`GPLGeek`	`Splended`
`04:57.24`	`*** join/#elive Wallalai (n=Alain@58.147.35.117)`
`04:57.25`	`revdjenk`	`but while you are here, GPLGeek I have had some icon disappearing action`
`04:57.44`	`revdjenk`	`from my ibar`
`04:58.33`	`mickey777`	`kind akin to that move fahrenheit XXX from the late 60s....that is all I'll say about it`
`04:58.46`	`GPLGeek`	`revdjenk, e17 or 16?`
`04:58.51`	`GPLGeek`	`all of the icons or just one?`
`04:59.04`	`GPLGeek`	`Also did you apt-get update && apt-get upgrade as root`
`04:59.13`	`mickey777`	`dillo doesn't have a menu bar in e16 hmmm`
`04:59.13`	`revdjenk`	`17 in the ibar...clicked on term and it disappeared...also on elpanel icon`
`04:59.22`	`GPLGeek`	`if so you may need to use the config fixer in elpanel`
`04:59.25`	`revdjenk`	`no I have not done that`
`04:59.40`	`revdjenk`	`I have them back again`
`04:59.43`	`GPLGeek`	`You should probably apt-get update && apt-get upgrade`
`05:00.01`	`LinuxNIT`	`upgrade or dist-upgrade? or does it matter?`
`05:00.01`	`revdjenk`	`OK...even though I have .15kernel`
`05:00.22`	`GPLGeek`	`in this case upgrade should fix it but if you wish to dist-upgrade you can`
`05:01.47`	`revdjenk`	`ok, started`
`05:03.13`	`revdjenk`	`GPLGeek, if you haven't heard, my wifi is working now! Tried to tell Thanatermesis but haven't heard from him.`
`05:03.40`	`revdjenk`	`using the rt2500 2.6.15 driver`
`05:04.06`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@c-67-164-76-177.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)`
`05:04.21`	`Elive_user`	`as a note dist-upgrade may break your system`
`05:04.46`	`Elive_user`	`I just tried it, it removes entrance and other packages`
`05:04.58`	`LinuxNIT`	`wow`
`05:05.11`	`GPLGeek`	`revdjenk, good`
`05:05.33`	`GPLGeek`	`I'm happy we were able to resolve that`
`05:05.38`	`revdjenk`	`good thing I kept my "dist"ance from dist-upgrade`
`05:05.51`	`LinuxNIT`	`hahaha`
`05:05.53`	`revdjenk`	`yes, me too...now Elive is my distro`
`05:06.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, you like plays on words dont you`
`05:06.15`	`revdjenk`	`yes`
`05:06.36`	`GPLGeek`	`Somone put elive embeded into their car`
`05:06.49`	`revdjenk`	`wow!`
`05:06.55`	`GPLGeek`	`they have wireless internet 1.5MB/s in car`
`05:07.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`damn`
`05:07.09`	`GPLGeek`	`they stream chronixradio and other internet music stations`
`05:07.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`thats nice`
`05:07.17`	`revdjenk`	`I don't have that at home!!`
`05:07.18`	`GPLGeek`	`7" LCD touch screen`
`05:07.20`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`05:07.22`	`GPLGeek`	`for DVDs`
`05:07.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`incredible`
`05:07.44`	`revdjenk`	`is this korea or finland?`
`05:07.46`	`GPLGeek`	`USB in dash, can pop in a pendrive and it will switch to playing the media on that device`
`05:07.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`you need to get pics and a thing about that on elivecd.org`
`05:07.58`	`GPLGeek`	`I wanted pics`
`05:08.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`did he refuse them?`
`05:08.20`	`GPLGeek`	`Has no camera`
`05:08.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmmmm`
`05:08.37`	`GPLGeek`	`Told him to snail mail me a disposable camera`
`05:08.41`	`revdjenk`	`no camera and elive and wifi in his car!!!`
`05:08.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, exavtly`
`05:08.50`	`GPLGeek`	`I helped him every step of the way through chat`
`05:08.55`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh`
`05:08.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`nm then`
`05:08.59`	`GPLGeek`	`So it better be real`
`05:09.01`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`05:09.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`lmfao`
`05:09.07`	`revdjenk`	`you were drooling eh?`
`05:09.15`	`GPLGeek`	`As a note you can't just hook it up into any sterio`
`05:09.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`05:09.26`	`LinuxNIT`	`damn it`
`05:09.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`05:09.30`	`GPLGeek`	`he had to replace his deck to get a model that let's you hook up a external device`
`05:09.39`	`GPLGeek`	`he kept his speakers and amp and everything`
`05:09.42`	`LinuxNIT`	`sounds logical`
`05:09.56`	`GPLGeek`	`he got a gold patch cable for the sound, it was only 2 feet long`
`05:10.01`	`GPLGeek`	`mounted it on passengers side`
`05:10.36`	`mickey777`	`night everyone....`
`05:10.51`	`revdjenk`	`LinuxNIT, the upgrade added wine .9.9 that should be new enough, eh`
`05:10.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`dunno`
`05:11.08`	`GPLGeek`	`http://damnsmalllinux.org/store/TFT_LCD/VM7000`
`05:11.12`	`LinuxNIT`	`i used the wine from winehq .com`
`05:11.28`	`GPLGeek`	`http://damnsmalllinux.org/store/Mini_ITX_Systems/Car_PC_Barebones_MII_10000`
`05:11.37`	`LinuxNIT`	`do you have winecfg as a program ?`
`05:11.47`	`GPLGeek`	`those are some car linux models`
`05:11.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`cool`
`05:12.45`	`GPLGeek`	`Elive was a better choice`
`05:12.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`GPLGeek, so what kinda of wifi does he have?`
`05:12.59`	`GPLGeek`	`small footprint, drivers, etc`
`05:13.00`	`roxville`	`i love that mini-itx site`
`05:13.07`	`GPLGeek`	`I think he said it was verizon`
`05:13.24`	`LinuxNIT`	`cool`
`05:13.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`man thats awsome`
`05:13.35`	`revdjenk`	`double wow`
`05:13.55`	`revdjenk`	`at the end of the upgrade I am getting question`
`05:14.32`	`LinuxNIT`	`and that question is?`
`05:14.34`	`revdjenk`	`since I installed 2.6.15 kernel image earlier will this upgrade be bade then`
`05:15.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`i dont see how it would be gut GPLGeek here to correct me if im wrong`
`05:15.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`05:16.01`	`revdjenk`	`it says in part..."If /lib/modules/2.6.15 belongs to an old instal of kernel-image-2.6.15 then this is you last chance to abort the installation of this kernel`
`05:16.30`	`GPLGeek`	`Hmm.`
`05:16.39`	`GPLGeek`	`I'm not sure about that one`
`05:16.40`	`LinuxNIT`	`GPLGeek, he did install modules for wifi`
`05:17.18`	`GPLGeek`	`I doubt it will hurt anything if he goes on but I am not sure`
`05:17.31`	`revdjenk`	`"Otherwise, I suggest you move /lib....15 out of the way, perhaps to /lib...15.old or somethng, andthen try re-installing this image`
`05:17.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`he MAY have to reinstall the modules?`
`05:18.11`	`revdjenk`	`it looks like the same kernel I installed earlier`
`05:18.25`	`revdjenk`	`same number`
`05:18.55`	`revdjenk`	`2.6.15_10.00.Custom_i386.deb`
`05:19.21`	`revdjenk`	`the one Thanatermesis is calling Falkom`
`05:19.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, what is that?`
`05:19.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`did ou get the 2.6.15 kernel from thana or thru apt?`
`05:19.56`	`revdjenk`	`from Thana`
`05:21.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`GPLGeek, then wouldnt continueing wipe the kernel he got from thana/`
`05:21.32`	`LinuxNIT`	`?`
`05:22.16`	`GPLGeek`	`oh`
`05:22.20`	`GPLGeek`	`ya it might`
`05:22.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`i dunno im just trying to think`
`05:22.30`	`GPLGeek`	`I didnt know he got another one from thana`
`05:22.34`	`GPLGeek`	`We will have to ask him`
`05:22.35`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`05:23.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`poor revdjenk left hanging in mid aire`
`05:23.08`	`yawlright`	`are there other elive channels?`
`05:23.15`	`revdjenk`	`it looks like they are saying it would be bad if I have added or deselected standalone modules`
`05:23.15`	`LinuxNIT`	`*air even`
`05:23.15`	`revdjenk`	`no I'm sitting`
`05:23.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`05:23.56`	`revdjenk`	`well, what`
`05:24.30`	`revdjenk`	`what's the worst case...? I have to reinstall? I was thinking of that anyway...`
`05:24.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`worst yah but i doubt it would come to that`
`05:24.58`	`GPLGeek`	`There are other elive channels`
`05:25.03`	`GPLGeek`	`elive-unstable for testing`
`05:25.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`you can always go back to a new older kernel`
`05:25.08`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk,`
`05:25.12`	`revdjenk`	`yes`
`05:25.18`	`roxville`	`good night ppl :)`
`05:25.24`	`GPLGeek`	`good night rox`
`05:25.25`	`roxville`	`see y'all tomorrow`
`05:25.27`	`revdjenk`	`g'nite`
`05:25.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`do you still have the packages for the kernel from thana and the driver?`
`05:25.32`	`LinuxNIT`	`g'ngiht roxville`
`05:25.40`	`roxville`	`:)`
`05:26.14`	`revdjenk`	`somewhere, I am sure...`
`05:26.20`	`revdjenk`	`trying to remember`
`05:26.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`is Thanatermesis is bed?`
`05:26.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`*in`
`05:28.07`	`revdjenk`	`no, I apt installed straight from the elive developer site...I didn't download a package and then compile (if that would be the terms)`
`05:28.21`	`LinuxNIT`	`ah`
`05:28.24`	`revdjenk`	`add six hours`
`05:28.35`	`LinuxNIT`	`for you or me?`
`05:28.42`	`revdjenk`	`seven then`
`05:28.44`	`revdjenk`	`for you`
`05:28.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`05:29.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`eh hes probably asleep`
`05:30.04`	`revdjenk`	`I'm going to press "y" on this...it is the same kernel...although I saw some new packages, like wine, for example...I don't know if that would complicate things`
`05:30.18`	`LinuxNIT`	`to behonest revdjenk i dunno what to do. But if you contine then do what the thing said and rename the /lib...15 folder`
`05:30.41`	`revdjenk`	`can I do that in another terminal?`
`05:30.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`yes`
`05:30.55`	`revdjenk`	`ok renaming...`
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`05:31.25`	`revdjenk`	`that command is rn to rename>\?`
`05:31.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, you might (probably will )lose wifi or at least have to reinstall the modules`
`05:31.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`mv`
`05:31.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`mv is for move but also rename`
`05:32.26`	`revdjenk`	`so it should be mv /lib/modules/2.6.25 /lib/modules/2.6.25.old`
`05:32.33`	`revdjenk`	`15`
`05:32.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeh`
`05:32.37`	`revdjenk`	`k`
`05:33.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`*experiments`
`05:33.56`	`revdjenk`	`and if this messes up, I just apt Thana's kernel and mv that directory back? no I wouldn't have to`
`05:34.23`	`LinuxNIT`	`thats what id try`
`05:34.29`	`revdjenk`	`I'm messing with kernels and I was never even a private!`
`05:34.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`but i dont know`
`05:34.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`05:35.11`	`revdjenk`	`the mv is done...here goes the kernel...If I leave the "air"...you will know`
`05:35.30`	`revdjenk`	`so in case, g'nite and thanx`
`05:35.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`you mean lose wifi?`
`05:35.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`np`
`05:35.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`but`
`05:35.38`	`revdjenk`	`or more`
`05:35.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`that shouldnt happen till reboot`
`05:36.18`	`revdjenk`	`oh... so I won't notice a change until then?`
`05:36.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`i doubt it`
`05:36.40`	`revdjenk`	`OK`
`05:36.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`kerenl takes a reboot to take effect`
`05:36.55`	`revdjenk`	`unpacking, etc`
`05:36.55`	`LinuxNIT`	`afaik`
`05:36.58`	`LinuxNIT`	`k`
`05:37.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`which sometimes aint far`
`05:37.20`	`revdjenk`	`hee hee`
`05:38.04`	`GPLGeek`	`ouch it's 80$ a month for 400 – 700 kbps. internet for a laptop`
`05:38.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`for the car?`
`05:38.54`	`GPLGeek`	`ya`
`05:38.55`	`LinuxNIT`	`wow`
`05:38.57`	`revdjenk`	`stopped, last two lines say: "Errors were encountered while processing: /var/chach/apt/archives/kernel-image-2.6.15_10.00.Custon_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)`
`05:39.19`	`revdjenk`	`whoops!???`
`05:39.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`GPLGeek, ?`
`05:39.30`	`revdjenk`	`but back at a prompt`
`05:39.56`	`revdjenk`	`well I have to reboot any way...sometime...I guess I'll try`
`05:40.06`	`GPLGeek`	`wtf is error code 1`
`05:40.52`	`revdjenk`	`I was supposed to do that as root, too, correct?`
`05:41.15`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt wont install anyting as user ;)`
`05:41.19`	`revdjenk`	`k`
`05:42.00`	`revdjenk`	`well, I'll reboot...if you hear from me tonight in a few minutes...it worked...otherwise I'm going to bed...gnite`
`05:42.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`k`
`05:42.12`	`LinuxNIT`	`gnight`
`05:42.13`	`wasynyt`	`good morning everyone`
`05:42.17`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol wasynyt`
`05:42.20`	`revdjenk`	`g'nite`
`05:42.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`good night wasynyt`
`05:42.25`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
`05:43.19`	`GPLGeek`	`I'm running a development version of elive and it booted very quickly`
`05:43.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`hows it goin wasynyt`
`05:43.25`	`LinuxNIT`	`cool`
`05:43.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`like how quick?`
`05:43.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`05:43.40`	`wasynyt`	`good.. its morning here 7.45 am`
`05:43.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`11:45 pm here`
`05:44.01`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`05:44.36`	`yawlright`	`i finally beat tuxpuck! :P`
`05:44.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`05:44.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`congrats man`
`05:45.30`	`GPLGeek`	`a few seconds in qemu`
`05:45.34`	`wasynyt`	`congrats`
`05:45.50`	`GPLGeek`	`tuxpuck is almost impossible`
`05:47.07`	`wasynyt`	`i think that someone has made it a bit too hard :/`
`05:47.54`	`LinuxNIT`	`congrats/congradulations`
`05:48.05`	`LinuxNIT`	`ive never really played it`
`05:48.24`	`LinuxNIT`	`wow a few seconds in qemu thats incredible GPLGeek`
`05:49.09`	`GPLGeek`	`It's very minimal`
`05:49.17`	`GPLGeek`	`under 200mb`
`05:50.12`	`GPLGeek`	`I need to test it on this machine so ill be back soon`
`05:50.17`	`yawlright`	`did you see that video of the super fast live cd boot?`
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`05:51.24`	`yawlright`	`apt bye`
`05:51.26`	`apt`	`cya`
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`05:56.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`wb GPLGeek`
`05:59.16`	`GPLGeek`	`the livecd didnt boot on this system for some reason`
`05:59.19`	`GPLGeek`	`it boots on my laptop`
`06:03.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`that sucks`
`06:04.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`im writing readmes for my program :>`
`06:04.32`	`LinuxNIT`	`but people dont tend to read them :<`
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`06:08.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`wb`
`06:08.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`did it work?`
`06:08.19`	`revdjenk`	`well...i'm in kubuntu`
`06:08.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh`
`06:08.48`	`revdjenk`	`I'd advise not doing that upgrade if you have done Thana's kernel upgrade`
`06:08.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`what happened?`
`06:08.57`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`06:08.59`	`revdjenk`	`FATAL lines zipping by`
`06:09.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`ah`
`06:09.13`	`revdjenk`	`too fast to read`
`06:09.37`	`LinuxNIT`	`well boot a old kernel and reinstall thanas kernel`
`06:09.45`	`revdjenk`	`I did end up with an e17 desktop, but mouse wouldn't work`
`06:09.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`at least thats what id try`
`06:10.05`	`revdjenk`	`and don't now any keyboard tips`
`06:10.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmm`
`06:10.16`	`revdjenk`	`oh...like 2.6.11`
`06:10.33`	`revdjenk`	`and then Thana's Oh I could do that....just not right now!`
`06:10.34`	`revdjenk`	`hee`
`06:10.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`cntl+alt+F1 brings you to a full screen terminal login`
`06:10.35`	`revdjenk`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:11.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`you have then on F1-F6 i believe`
`06:11.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`could be trhu F8 on elive since the graphical stuff is on F9`
`06:11.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`trhu=thru`
`06:12.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`06:12.58`	`wasynyt_away`	`gotta go..`
`06:13.02`	`LinuxNIT`	`later`
`06:13.07`	`revdjenk`	`revdjenk gotto go 2`
`06:13.20`	`LinuxNIT`	`well revdjenk i hope rinstallin thanas kernel works`
`06:13.21`	`revdjenk`	`lovu LinuxNIT see you later`
`06:13.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`gnight revdjenk`
`06:13.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
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`06:24.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`welcome Elive_user31`
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`07:58.36`	`*** mode/#elive [+o Thanatermesis] by ChanServ`
`07:59.19`	`*** topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Need Help? http://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Help \|\| Open your mind with elive-essence: "xmms http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/1035" \|\| Check #e #e.fr #e.es #e.de #e.it Enlightenment channels \|\| Do you want total compatibility with your machine for the next release ? http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/DevelRelease`
`07:59.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/DevelRelease <---------`
`08:01.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`Lightning_ThB LinuxNIT blizzard_ wasynyt_away`
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`08:13.10`	`dschohennes`	`hi!`
`08:13.36`	`dschohennes`	`Thanatermesis: have u rebuild the fglrx-kernel 2.6.15 yet?`
`08:13.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`yeah dschohennes`
`08:13.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`i have a little toy for you ;)`
`08:14.04`	`dschohennes`	`because my drives are not recognized in 12`
`08:14.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/DevelRelease`
`08:14.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`its a iso of 150 mb with all the minimum "just for test if all works good for the next release" :)=`
`08:17.25`	`dschohennes`	`okay i'll try it later`
`08:18.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`08:18.03`	`dschohennes`	`i'm downloading`
`08:18.34`	`dschohennes`	`so what about the 2.6.15?`
`08:20.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`this iso has the 2.6.15 with all posible actual drivers included ;)`
`08:21.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`then.. the new fglrx on this iso`
`08:21.33`	`dschohennes`	`okay so you haven't fixed the probs in 0.4.2 ?`
`08:21.49`	`dschohennes`	`cause i need to use that one`
`08:22.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`you can... installing the 2.6.15 kernel and the fglrx drivers...`
`08:22.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`if this iso works good your ati.. i show you how to install this 2.6.15 on 0.4.2`
`08:25.21`	`dschohennes`	`k`
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`08:37.48`	`dschohennes`	`Thanatermesis: the Problem about the iso is... i can't burn it in 2.6.12 because my burner is not recognized`
`08:38.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehehe`
`08:38.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`do you have the kernel 2.6.15 installed ?`
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`08:45.48`	`dschohennes`	`Thanatermesis: no, i haven't`
`08:46.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/HowtoInstallKernel`
`08:51.22`	`mndctrl`	`is there a 64 bit version on elive?`
`08:52.42`	`dschohennes`	`Thanatermesis: i thought i have to install fglrx-kernel or something like that`
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`08:53.30`	`Mtraker`	`hi`
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`08:55.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`dschohennes yes, use apt-cache search fglrx 2.6.15 and install fgrlx-driver, but add the line "tests" in your sources.list (all detailed in the link)`
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`08:55.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`mndctrl no... i need to make a "donations link" for this future amd64 version of Elive`
`08:56.17`	`mndctrl`	`Thanatermesis: do that! I'll click it ;)`
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`09:02.52`	`Mtraker`	`Thanatermesis, I said the other day the problem with xsane and niash, and I see now this it's my problem, because it's integrated in this version.`
`09:03.35`	`Mtraker`	`I resolve that, elive run ok.`
`09:03.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`thanks mndctrl :) i put it soon :)`
`09:04.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`thanks Mtraker :)`
`09:04.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`Mtraker if you like to test the new generations for Elive, i have just builded a "test" version in 150 mb, i need testers for hardware compatibility and good autodetections`
`09:04.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/DevelRelease`
`09:05.40`	`Mtraker`	`I'm download now`
`09:08.18`	`Mtraker`	`I can't download... :-(`
`09:08.27`	`Mtraker`	`==> PORT ... done. ==> RETR elive-unstable-cvs20060320.iso ...`
`09:08.39`	`Mtraker`	`don´t run`
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`09:13.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmh`
`09:15.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`Mtraker seguro ? prueba de nuevo`
`09:16.54`	`pycs`	`Thanatermesis, is this the light version? the new generation?`
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`09:17.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`pycs no... just a developement version`
`09:17.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`not has anything... just a e16 with a terminal, this is all, hehe`
`09:17.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`Mtraker ping`
`09:17.57`	`pycs`	`ok, :)`
`09:18.17`	`Mtraker`	`ok`
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`09:18.22`	`pycs`	`so what is you definition of elive new generation?`
`09:18.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`pycs because a new totally diferent and better system...`
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`09:18.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`(livecd system)`
`09:18.59`	`pycs`	`installable?`
`09:19.05`	`pycs`	`in hd>`
`09:19.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, of course... (not this iso build)`
`09:19.31`	`dats`	`hello`
`09:19.57`	`pycs`	`Thanatermesis, is this still base on etch? no?`
`09:20.09`	`Mtraker`	`yes pycs`
`09:20.25`	`Mtraker`	`Now I go to work`
`09:20.30`	`pycs`	`ah ok.,.`
`09:20.39`	`Mtraker`	`see you later (Thanamersis I`
`09:20.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`c u Mtraker`
`09:20.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`tell me about if works good :)`
`09:20.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`this build`
`09:20.55`	`Mtraker`	`Thanamersis I can donload that`
`09:21.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`the 2º link ?`
`09:21.08`	`Mtraker`	`yes`
`09:21.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`09:21.19`	`Mtraker`	`see you later`
`09:21.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`c u Mtraker`
`09:29.18`	`LinuxNIT`	`someone called?`
`09:29.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`Thanatermesis, you called me?`
`09:31.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes`
`09:31.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`read the topic`
`09:32.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh ok`
`09:32.37`	`LinuxNIT`	`you want us to test for ya?`
`09:33.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`Thanatermesis, got another question`
`09:33.25`	`LinuxNIT`	`still here?`
`09:34.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, i need the maximum posible of tests for the more soon posible`
`09:35.29`	`LinuxNIT`	`k im downloading it :)`
`09:42.06`	`Liveengineer`	`Ahh i see it is testing time ... cool`
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`10:27.55`	`kiwi_`	`a new version of elive of coming soon ?`
`10:28.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`LinuxNIT ping`
`10:29.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`kiwi_ just a developement release`
`10:29.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`pong .... i was just drifting off`
`10:30.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`10:31.49`	`kiwi_`	`oki`
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`10:53.52`	`TuxMeister`	`hey guys`
`10:58.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`hi TuxMeister`
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`11:20.33`	`Elive_user`	`anybody about?`
`11:21.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`Kishe just ask ;)`
`11:22.06`	`get[elive]`	`apt, whatsa about e17?`
`11:24.28`	`Kishe`	`Any idea how can I upgrade e17? I did apt-get upgrade and now efl wont upgrade because of too new libc6 :/`
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`11:28.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`Kishe i don't have this problem`
`11:32.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`Kishe you are in Elive ?`
`11:35.37`	`get[elive]`	`Kishe, if u are on ubuntu you can not use our mirror to install it on ubuntu, its only for elive this repo`
`11:35.37`	`get[elive]`	`:D`
`11:36.18`	`get[elive]`	`on ubuntu it will give u everytime the same error`
`11:36.19`	`get[elive]`	`:D`
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`11:56.32`	`Kishe`	`hIm on Elive`
`11:57.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`do you have remove before all the efl-all pacakges ?`
`11:58.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh... this look strange... let me fix it...`
`11:59.13`	`Kishe`	`I get that I have libc 2.3.6-3 but EFL-all requires 2.3.5-13`
`11:59.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes`
`11:59.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`wait some minutes... i need to fix it`
`12:02.27`	`Kishe`	`also firefox gives error`
`12:02.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`firefox ? what error ?`
`12:05.18`	`dschohennes`	`i got kissing desease`
`12:05.29`	`dschohennes`	`glandular fever`
`12:05.29`	`Kishe`	`ooh, synaptic tried to upgrade mozilla-firefox and gave error...apt did same...then i did "apt-get install firefox" and it worked`
`12:06.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`Kishe apt-cache policy mozilla-firefox ... can you posible to paste the result on www.pastebin.com ?`
`12:08.52`	`Kishe`	`mozilla-firefox:`
`12:08.52`	`Kishe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:08.52`	`Kishe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:08.52`	`Kishe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:08.52`	`Kishe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:08.52`	`Kishe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:08.54`	`Kishe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:08.58`	`Kishe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:09.00`	`Kishe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:09.02`	`Kishe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:09.04`	`Kishe`	`(finnish) :P`
`12:10.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`its good...`
`12:10.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`what is the problem ?`
`12:11.25`	`Kishe`	`nothing anymore...wouldnt let me upgrade it through synaptic`
`12:13.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh.. the problem of libc6 looks fixed... give me a second to i finish and upgrade the main repositories`
`12:15.39`	`Kishe`	`kk, ok...i could recreate the firefox thing...seems it tries to look for firefox (= 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-3elive1) but only finds firefox (= 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-3)`
`12:16.17`	`Kishe`	`when you do "apt-get install mozilla-firefox" it does that but not when "apt-get install firefox"`
`12:17.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, because we have upgraded the version...`
`12:17.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`you need apt-get install firefox for upgrade it, yes`
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`12:29.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`Kishe ok, i upgrade the repositories, after to you upgrade your system can you posible to reboot for look if entrance works perfectly ?`
`12:36.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`Kishe ok, you can upgrade the system now`
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`12:37.12`	`TuxMeister`	`hey guys!`
`12:37.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`hey TuxMeister`
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`12:46.45`	`Kishe`	`ok works now thana...thanks!`
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`14:03.34`	`Duvelr`	`Hola`
`14:04.47`	`Duvelr`	`Thanatermesis,?`
`14:06.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`hola Duvelr`
`14:06.26`	`Duvelr`	`hola, el "theme" esta mas o menos terminado "como beta"`
`14:06.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`vaya, perfecto :)`
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`14:50.13`	`sinplomo`	`apt, sgae`
`14:50.17`	`apt`	`rumour has it, sgae is Siempre Ganamos Algunos Euros`
`14:51.16`	`dats`	`-rw-r--r-- 1 dats dats 202 2006-03-20 15:47 gadman.module.ibar.0.cfg`
`14:51.16`	`dats`	`-rw-r--r-- 1 dats dats 198 2006-03-20 15:47 gadman.module.ibox.0.cfg`
`14:51.16`	`dats`	`-rw-r--r-- 1 dats dats 204 2006-03-20 15:47 gadman.module.pager.0.cfg`
`14:51.19`	`dats`	`sorry`
`14:51.58`	`dats`	`can somebody helpme ?`
`14:52.22`	`dats`	`i have these 3 files into ~/.e/e/config/default$`
`14:52.47`	`dats`	`if i deleted it, when i reestart enlightenment, it will be there`
`14:56.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`dats of course, because are files of configuration of enlightenment, it manage this files`
`14:57.32`	`Gwildor_`	`o/`
`14:58.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`o/ Gwildor`
`14:59.17`	`Gwildor`	`Thanatermesis, i have a question for you`
`14:59.30`	`Gwildor`	`Thanatermesis, is there a "how to" to boo the iso from the HDD???`
`14:59.35`	`Gwildor`	`Thanatermesis, my CD-rom is busted`
`15:00.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`boo ?`
`15:00.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt boo`
`15:00.04`	`apt`	`thanatermesis, for heven's sake, don't do that!`
`15:00.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt boo !!!`
`15:00.13`	`apt`	`Boo! Hiss! !!! is pure filth! Boo!`
`15:00.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`15:01.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`boot the iso from the hd ? not really easy :/`
`15:01.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`i don't really know a way without use a cd`
`15:01.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`of course i don't think to its posible actually on Elive`
`15:01.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`maybe a future feature, or boot from a usb stick, or networks boot`
`15:01.50`	`dererk`	`:P~`
`15:02.55`	`Gwildor`	`Thanatermesis, :(, not even using grub???.....`
`15:05.37`	`Mutacion`	`ese thana xD`
`15:06.04`	`Mutacion`	`holitaz..ayooo0`
`15:07.57`	`dats`	`shit`
`15:11.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`Gwildor i don't really think to its posible/easy`
`15:11.36`	`Gwildor`	`Thanatermesis, hehe, well, i let you know :)`
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`15:41.10`	`Elive_user`	`j #azureus-norwegian`
`15:44.08`	`roxville`	`Elive_user, are you trying to change nick?`
`15:44.22`	`roxville`	`oh... no`
`15:44.58`	`roxville`	`anyway, /join #azureus-norwegian should take you there...`
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`16:00.34`	`askalot`	`hello`
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`16:02.00`	`askalot`	`heelo?`
`16:02.05`	`Mutacion`	`?hello`
`16:02.21`	`askalot`	`can you help please...?`
`16:02.28`	`Duvelr`	`ok Thanatermesis se fue "Lucax" las fuentes en un tar.gz`
`16:02.29`	`Mutacion`	`a ver suelta la pregunta xD`
`16:02.32`	`Mutacion`	`yes :P`
`16:03.05`	`askalot`	`bonjour... i dont know much french... :)`
`16:03.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`gracias Duvelr, me lo miraré cuando vaya a sacar la release :)`
`16:03.19`	`Mutacion`	`salut je parle petit francais`
`16:03.28`	`askalot`	`i want to know where to get elpanel...`
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`16:03.50`	`Duvelr`	`ok, tala proxima, adios gente, por "un rato"`
`16:03.52`	`Mutacion`	`se saliio! ni modo`
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`16:14.05`	`withoutclass`	`woo school internet is working finally`
`16:14.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`16:15.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`withoutclass http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/DevelRelease`
`16:15.10`	`withoutclass`	`ive been very sad thinking i would have to code my homework downstairs in the lab`
`16:17.55`	`withoutclass`	`so if 150mb, i can make the devel onto my USB disk and test it for you?`
`16:18.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`maybe`
`16:18.49`	`withoutclass`	`Thanatermesis, ^^`
`16:19.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`but for now not is supported withoutclass`
`16:19.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`its a future feature`
`16:22.18`	`withoutclass`	`Thanatermesis, dhcclient is the regular command to obtain a dhcp request when logged in? i have been looking for this ;)`
`16:22.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`yeah, is a good and fast way`
`16:23.11`	`withoutclass`	`ok`
`16:23.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`dhclient eth0`
`16:23.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`or interface`
`16:23.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`also for wifi :)`
`16:23.39`	`withoutclass`	`faster than reboot =X`
`16:23.41`	`withoutclass`	`ugh, school internet sucks :(`
`16:24.12`	`withoutclass`	`i must go eat + homework + class, i will bbl`
`16:25.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`c u`
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`16:46.50`	`quidam-`	`Thanatermesis, http://www.eldiariomontanes.es/pg060320/prensa/noticias/Sociedad/200603/20/DMO-TEL-091.html`
`16:46.50`	`quidam-`	`pilla lo que me perdi`
`16:46.57`	`quidam-`	`te acuerdas que te dije que me iba a inscribir?`
`16:47.08`	`quidam-`	`ahora me pregunto ¿porque coño no fui?`
`16:47.20`	`quidam-`	`esta mu bueno, lo estan pasando en todas las noticias hoy xDDDD`
`16:49.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`jejeje`
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`17:42.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`KaKaRoTo-KS ping`
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`18:13.06`	`Elive_user13`	`alguien que hable español`
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`18:24.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`KaKaRoTo-KS ?`
`18:26.11`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, he says he's usually in #amsn, try there`
`18:26.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`18:26.55`	`Gwildor`	`o/ o/`
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`18:31.52`	`ellokofonker`	`hi all`
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`19:20.50`	`wasynyt`	`good evening everyone`
`19:21.04`	`withoutclass`	`good afternoon wasynyt`
`19:30.12`	`LinuxNIT`	`wb roxville`
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`19:30.51`	`Elive_user`	`hello`
`19:30.57`	`LinuxNIT`	`hello Elive_user`
`19:31.10`	`Elive_user`	`looks like the e-modules aren't updated`
`19:31.23`	`Elive_user`	`will they be updated soon ?`
`19:31.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`i dont know about that :-/`
`19:32.51`	`Elive_user`	`I apt-get update and every Elive packages are up to cvs20060312 exept e-modules`
`19:33.26`	`Elive_user`	`e-modules are syill cvs20060225`
`19:33.31`	`wasynyt`	`Elive_user, change your nick.. and i think that emodules are not in active development that moment`
`19:34.38`	`vital`	`ok but yhe modules are borken now. for me it isn't a prob i'm under e16`
`19:34.54`	`sinplomo`	`yes, because they aren't a priority`
`19:34.55`	`sinplomo`	`:)`
`19:35.04`	`sinplomo`	`vital, e16 is the best ! :)`
`19:36.35`	`vital`	`ok but for an enlightenment livecd, it is sad that e17 won't work after update`
`19:36.47`	`vital`	`it works without modules...`
`19:37.01`	`vital`	`bah , i 'll wait`
`19:37.08`	`Gwildor`	`for live CD's you arent supposed to update....`
`19:37.36`	`vital`	`yep, but i have installed it on my main comp (and I love it ;-) )`
`19:38.01`	`Gwildor`	`still, i think its crazy thana supports updates....even reccomends it.....`
`19:38.52`	`wasynyt`	`Gwildor, i think that Thanatermesis wants to test elive all the time.. to see how it reacts on different updates`
`19:39.21`	`wasynyt`	`elive is far from 1.0 :/`
`19:39.25`	`Gwildor`	`yeah, could be......but still, taht should be a "tester" option, not a every day user reccomendation.........but thats jstu me`
`19:39.36`	`vital`	`i found that's great that thana makes regular .deb of the cvs personnaly`
`19:41.48`	`vital`	`and I said this just to point that bug, because even if they aren't updated, now they won't install because they lookj for efl cvs20060225`
`19:42.48`	`vital`	`and I got another question, I've heard that this is a belgian distro, is that true?`
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`19:43.17`	`Gwildor`	`idk wtf thana speaks`
`19:43.30`	`sinplomo`	`vital, Thanatermesis is from Spain`
`19:43.35`	`sinplomo`	`but he lives in Belgium`
`19:44.18`	`vital`	`ah ok, i live in belgium too ;-)`
`19:45.23`	`vital`	`anyway, i would thanx the creator, it is so great and friendly user`
`19:45.38`	`vital`	`the creator of elpanel i mean`
`19:46.19`	`Gwildor`	`thana`
`19:46.37`	`wasynyt`	`Thana is the one behind elive`
`19:47.15`	`vital`	`well, great work thana, all my friends are very impressed by your works ;-)`
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`19:49.31`	`withoutclass`	`vital, welcome ;)`
`19:50.08`	`vital`	`thanx ;)`
`19:51.08`	`vital`	`hey, elive is n°32 in distrowatch, great for a new distro !`
`19:51.23`	`withoutclass`	`yes`
`19:51.25`	`withoutclass`	`:P`
`19:51.29`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`19:51.34`	`vital`	`and tomorrow, i will make a new adept i think`
`19:51.52`	`vital`	`if it install correctly on his computer`
`19:53.08`	`vital`	`and if you have some time to check for that e-modules dependancy problem that would be great`
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`19:55.09`	`elstupido`	`hi`
`19:55.24`	`roxville`	`hi`
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`19:55.27`	`elstupido`	`does anybody know how it is possible to change the gtk engine?`
`19:55.54`	`roxville`	`you can do that in elpanel`
`19:56.00`	`roxville`	`elive's control panel`
`19:56.11`	`elstupido`	`oh..thanks`
`19:56.24`	`roxville`	`it's the folder with the tools`
`19:56.43`	`roxville`	`click the icon on the left and then choose the e version you're in`
`19:56.51`	`elstupido`	`do you also know how i can change my "favourite menu" (right klick"??`
`19:57.14`	`elstupido`	`entangle?`
`19:57.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`yes use entangle`
`19:58.34`	`elstupido`	`thana said sometimes ago that entangle is to be going out...i mean that there will be another app for that...`
`19:59.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`i have no idea`
`19:59.04`	`elstupido`	`but...thanks for your information`
`19:59.12`	`elstupido`	`bye`
`19:59.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`but entangle is still used atm`
`19:59.26`	`LinuxNIT`	`bye`
`19:59.29`	`LinuxNIT`	`oook`
`19:59.34`	`roxville`	`lol`
`20:00.02`	`LinuxNIT`	`apparently he doesnt like entangle`
`20:01.03`	`wasynyt`	`LinuxNIT, or he maybe suffers from same problems as i with entangle :S`
`20:01.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`and that is?`
`20:02.43`	`wasynyt`	`well i could say that even kde 1.0 taskbar looks better for me than it.. for me entangle does not work :/ it has some odd blurred backround..`
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`20:03.40`	`wasynyt`	`at the moment i am waiting for elive 0.5 to arrive.. then i will have a new go with it`
`20:04.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`wierd`
`20:05.45`	`wasynyt`	`i know.. i have high hopes for elive 0.5 to be my next os...`
`20:06.05`	`roxville`	`we all do`
`20:06.34`	`roxville`	`we have to figure out this entangle problem, though...`
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`20:06.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`roxville, you have it too?`
`20:07.25`	`roxville`	`nope`
`20:07.52`	`roxville`	`maybe entangle has a locale problem`
`20:08.31`	`roxville`	`i mean, finnish is after all the 8th hardest languahe in the world to learn :)`
`20:08.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`20:08.58`	`sinplomo`	`roxville, which is the first ?`
`20:08.59`	`wasynyt`	`i would give you screenshot about it but after 0.4.2 install my elive install has had 0 usage as i need to upgrade the kernel and tune up network etc.. and it is not worth it at the moment`
`20:09.01`	`sinplomo`	`chinese ?`
`20:09.04`	`sinplomo`	`japanese ?`
`20:09.17`	`Gwildor`	`greek`
`20:09.34`	`roxville`	`sinplomo, korean`
`20:10.14`	`wasynyt`	`truly ?`
`20:10.46`	`roxville`	`yes`
`20:11.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`yall know what the hardest is?`
`20:11.52`	`wasynyt`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_language i think this is quite hard too`
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`20:12.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`navajo is litereally impossible to speak after a certain age`
`20:12.47`	`roxville`	`LinuxNIT, it's korean`
`20:12.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`you litterally loose the abiltiy to make the sounds neened in the lanuage`
`20:13.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`neened = needed`
`20:13.11`	`roxville`	`cool!`
`20:13.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeah`
`20:13.26`	`LinuxNIT`	`thats why the used it in the World war`
`20:13.31`	`sinplomo`	`roxville, where can I get the list ? :P`
`20:13.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`the navajo windtalkers`
`20:13.46`	`roxville`	`sinplomo, i have no idea`
`20:13.48`	`sinplomo`	`LinuxNIT, I saw the movie`
`20:13.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
`20:13.53`	`sinplomo`	`Windtalkers !`
`20:13.54`	`sinplomo`	`lol`
`20:14.04`	`withoutclass`	`LinuxNIT, damn thats jutz`
`20:14.07`	`roxville`	`i remember reading this when i studied a little finnish`
`20:14.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`pretty cool imho`
`20:15.50`	`wasynyt`	`3/ What are the hardest languages to learn in the World ?`
`20:15.50`	`wasynyt`	`Hungarian and Finnish appear to be extremely difficult to learn because of the grammar complexity (agglutination principle) and the curious vocabulary.`
`20:15.50`	`wasynyt`	`These two languages belong to the language family called "Finno-Ugric".`
`20:15.50`	`wasynyt`	`Chinese is also a very hard language because of the tonal aspect.`
`20:15.50`	`wasynyt`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:15.58`	`wasynyt`	`http://nicologic.free.fr/Foreign_Language_Learning.htm`
`20:16.54`	`roxville`	`most finns learn this, coz they think it's sooo cool that they have managed to learn such a hard language :)`
`20:17.17`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`20:18.17`	`sinplomo`	`wasynyt, he says that Maltese is a semitic language ...`
`20:18.31`	`sinplomo`	`Maltese is a kind of arabic + italian`
`20:18.33`	`withoutclass`	`learn sandscri`
`20:18.34`	`withoutclass`	`t`
`20:18.35`	`withoutclass`	`GG`
`20:18.39`	`wasynyt`	`:s`
`20:18.43`	`withoutclass`	`lol`
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`20:31.51`	`withoutclass`	`juice?`
`20:32.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`milk`
`20:32.41`	`withoutclass`	`juice!`
`20:32.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`water`
`20:32.49`	`withoutclass`	`beer?`
`20:32.51`	`LinuxNIT`	`ew`
`20:33.30`	`Gwildor`	`wtf is juice`
`20:33.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`crap that comes out of fruit`
`20:33.50`	`roxville`	`and water`
`20:33.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`ewwwwwwwwwwwww`
`20:34.10`	`wasynyt`	`roxville, what are you making :/`
`20:34.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`20:34.43`	`roxville`	`wasynyt, i have no idea! withoutclass started telling me all these ingredients....`
`20:35.20`	`roxville`	`i just make what the customers want dude, i try not to put too much thought into it`
`20:35.21`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`20:35.31`	`roxville`	`or i'd through up constantly`
`20:35.36`	`wasynyt`	`you would be perfect bar keeper`
`20:35.43`	`roxville`	`hehe`
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`20:38.00`	`wasynyt`	`hmm... milk + beer... i will not even try to think what it would taste like :S`
`20:38.10`	`sinplomo`	`roxville, http://www.stripgenerator.com/`
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`20:38.49`	`Elive_user92`	`hello`
`20:39.08`	`wasynyt`	`hello`
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`20:40.40`	`Elive_user92`	`i have got a problem with installing elive on my notebook`
`20:41.01`	`Elive_user92`	`it get stuck with gparted`
`20:41.23`	`LinuxNIT`	`wow`
`20:41.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`we can help him`
`20:42.10`	`Smjor`	`stuck how?`
`20:42.13`	`wasynyt`	`it could be.. what are you trying to do with gparted.. partionor just check you r existing partions`
`20:42.35`	`LinuxNIT`	`umm guys he left`
`20:42.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`* Elive_user92 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))<<<<<<<<<<<`
`20:42.57`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`20:43.11`	`wasynyt`	`when we could help they go away`
`20:43.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`20:43.56`	`wasynyt`	`i think he might be rebooting.. or elive crashed/segfaulted :S`
`20:44.22`	`sinplomo`	`apt, reboot`
`20:44.23`	`apt`	`Not on your life cowboy :(, or are you using Window$?`
`20:44.27`	`sinplomo`	`lol`
`20:44.29`	`sinplomo`	`:P`
`20:44.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`20:44.36`	`Smjor`	`apt bluescreen`
`20:44.38`	`apt`	`somebody said bluescreen was A Microsoft anomoly that still exists despite the \"death\" of Dos.`
`20:44.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt reinstall`
`20:44.40`	`apt`	`somebody said reinstall was cat /var/lib/dpkg/status\|grep -B 1 installed\|grep -v installed\|perl -ne 'if(/:\s+(.*)/) {print qq($1\n);}'\| xargs apt-get --reinstall install or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l \| awk '/^ii/ {print $2}' \| xargs apt-get --reinstall install`
`20:44.46`	`Smjor`	`lol`
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`20:45.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`well guys i gotta run`
`20:45.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`later`
`20:45.42`	`Smjor`	`Bye!`
`20:45.42`	`wasynyt`	`later`
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`20:53.37`	`wasynyt`	`http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/nwo.htm`
`20:53.38`	`wasynyt`	`lol`
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`20:57.54`	`alekibango`	`wasynyt: i know better source for images :) http://azazel.smugmug.com/ and videos and docs on http://www.conspiracycentral.net/`
`20:57.59`	`wasynyt`	`for some reason i enjoy reading conspirancy tales... perhaps its time for me to get some sleep :/`
`20:58.25`	`alekibango`	`well most people cannot sleep after reading`
`20:58.41`	`alekibango`	`i am easy cuz i know whats going to happen..`
`20:58.48`	`alekibango`	`we alll are going to die!`
`20:58.49`	`alekibango`	`:D`
`20:59.02`	`alekibango`	`every single one of us`
`20:59.03`	`alekibango`	`:D`
`20:59.13`	`alekibango`	`sooner or later :D hehe`
`20:59.30`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
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`21:09.31`	`wasynyt`	`hmm.. im really bored now.. :( i think i will just go get some sleep.. good night everyone`
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`21:18.55`	`dats`	`hello`
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`21:24.19`	`eManu`	`hi !!`
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`21:35.29`	`Elive_user`	`thx ppl`
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`21:57.11`	`IcedEarth`	`good evening`
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`22:03.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt vobcopy`
`22:03.18`	`apt`	`vobcopy is probably the repository of elive: deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive`
`22:03.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`inigo instala "e16-basic-tutorial" que te va a gustar ;)`
`22:03.40`	`inigo`	`oks`
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`22:27.07`	`Elive_user`	`apt basemod`
`22:27.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user better on #morphix`
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`22:28.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user2 please change nickname`
`22:28.07`	`r2`	`Hi Thanat`
`22:28.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`hi r2`
`22:28.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`basemod is a thing related with morphix, you found more info there`
`22:28.36`	`r2`	`This is my 6th or so elive install....`
`22:28.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`why ?`
`22:28.48`	`r2`	`1st time I launch Xchat, again :-)`
`22:29.00`	`r2`	`Because I'm using it on several boxes...`
`22:29.07`	`r2`	`...and went from 0.4 to 0.4.2`
`22:29.15`	`r2`	`so go multiply :-)`
`22:29.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`nice :)`
`22:29.33`	`r2`	`Can I bug you about morphix a bit?`
`22:30.18`	`r2`	`e.g. how did you start out with elive?`
`22:30.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es how did you start out with elive?`
`22:31.08`	`inigo`	`lol ... entrance is nice ¿is themeable?`
`22:31.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`r2 what ?`
`22:31.30`	`r2`	`Is elive based on morphix .5pre5?`
`22:31.40`	`inigo`	`Thanatermesis, dice r2 que como empezaste con elive ...`
`22:31.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes... or... i don't remember :)`
`22:32.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`i have worked on it a lot`
`22:33.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`inigo has themes, yes (elpanel)`
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`22:33.23`	`r2`	`I'm trying to understand morphix...`
`22:33.25`	`r2`	`you put everything for elive in the mainmod?`
`22:33.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`all the systems needs are understand a minimum before to work on it`
`22:33.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`very parts, yes`
`22:33.51`	`r2`	`so base is only used for booting etc...`
`22:34.17`	`inigo`	`r2, there is a CD ... named morphing-morphix whit a tutorial ;)`
`22:34.25`	`inigo`	`with`
`22:34.26`	`r2`	`I know...`
`22:34.32`	`inigo`	`a ok`
`22:34.43`	`r2`	`been working on it....even looking at other clones (like ebox)`
`22:34.53`	`inigo`	`yes, base.iso is only for boot and hardware detection`
`22:35.02`	`r2`	`Everybody seems to do it differently (sigh)`
`22:36.23`	`r2`	`I guess my question is this (drumroll)`
`22:37.03`	`r2`	`How did you (thanat) start elive? did you take the lightgui mod from morphix and turned it into elive?`
`22:37.27`	`r2`	`(I promise I will stop asking such things soon ;-)`
`22:38.52`	`r2`	`or inigo, can you take a base build and create a mainmod (e.g. for a server morph) out of it...`
`22:38.54`	`r2`	`?`
`22:39.21`	`inigo`	`r2, yes`
`22:39.36`	`inigo`	`you can generate a main.mod from a debootdtraped system`
`22:39.45`	`inigo`	`and add it to a base.iso`
`22:39.53`	`inigo`	`in the /mainmod folder`
`22:40.21`	`inigo`	`don't forget to install the init scripts in to the main.mod`
`22:40.34`	`r2`	`any hints why after chroot into a base (autobuild) apt doesn't work?`
`22:40.37`	`inigo`	`there are scpecial init scripts for module charge`
`22:41.09`	`r2`	`I'm at the stage, where I want to add programs to the base system...`
`22:43.05`	`inigo`	`r2, there are a lot of morphix docs and tools ... also a chanel #morphix where it is the central theme`
`22:43.23`	`r2`	`ok sorry`
`22:43.30`	`inigo`	`don't worry`
`22:43.36`	`inigo`	`only recomendation`
`22:43.38`	`inigo`	`:)`
`22:43.58`	`r2`	`yeh, but the coolest guys seem to hang out here ;-)`
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