irclog2html for #elive on 20060325

`00:01.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`listos :)`
`00:02.05`	`Mtraker`	`ahora vuelvo`
`00:03.03`	`quidam-`	`Thanatermesis, traductor?`
`00:03.09`	`quidam-`	`de español a ingles o al reves?`
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`00:03.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`both :)`
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`00:10.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`eManu respondido`
`00:10.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`quidam- quieres una cuenta entonces ?`
`00:13.05`	`quidam-`	`Thanatermesis, sep`
`00:13.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`dame tu email`
`00:13.49`	`Mtraker`	`que demonio de sonido puedo poner para elive? para que suene mas de un sonido a la vez`
`00:14.15`	`Mtraker`	`esound es compatible?`
`00:14.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`Mtraker esd! of course!`
`00:14.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`si`
`00:14.27`	`Mtraker`	`ok`
`00:14.38`	`eManu`	`Thanatermesis ya te comentare si hay alguna novedad`
`00:15.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`Mtraker esto te ayudara para el esound: http://wiki.elivecd.org/community/es/wiki/how_to_enable_sounds_on_enlightnement_16`
`00:15.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok eManu, gracias :)`
`00:15.15`	`Mtraker`	`thankx`
`00:15.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`enviado quidam-`
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`00:16.44`	`felix`	`:)`
`00:16.53`	`felix`	`por favor sr. Thanatermesis`
`00:16.59`	`felix`	`podr�a decirme los repositorios de elive ?`
`00:17.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt vobcopy`
`00:17.03`	`apt`	`rumour has it, vobcopy is the repository of elive: deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive`
`00:17.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt dance felix`
`00:17.13`	`apt`	`felix, dance with me! Ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' Elive, stayin' Elive`
`00:17.51`	`felix`	`Err http://www.vobcopy.org elive Release`
`00:17.58`	`felix`	`:S`
`00:18.09`	`felix`	`ah`
`00:18.11`	`felix`	`elive main efl elive`
`00:18.13`	`felix`	`?`
`00:18.16`	`felix`	`por que dos veces elive?`
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`00:18.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix uno es el nombre de la distro y otro es una rama`
`00:18.58`	`felix`	`ah`
`00:19.12`	`felix`	`#olive tiene menos movimiento`
`00:19.18`	`felix`	`que pelo de coreano`
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`00:30.06`	`plp`	`joodaaaaa`
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`00:30.22`	`felix`	`?`
`00:31.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`no te preocupes felix`
`00:31.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`ultimamente entrar bastantes asi`
`00:31.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`pobrecitos... les hace ilusion :)`
`00:31.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`entran*`
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`00:48.52`	`eManu`	`bye amigos, la cama me llama !!`
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`01:35.34`	`Phoul`	`anyone know how to clear the playlist in eclair`
`01:41.21`	`Bhaal22`	`sorry Phoul`
`01:41.59`	`Phoul`	`Anyone know how to set auto rejoin on xchat? (im guessing a lot of you use xchat)`
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`01:43.33`	`Bhaal22`	`i think Phoul`
`01:43.51`	`Bhaal22`	`in your ~/.xchat2/xchat.conf`
`01:44.09`	`Bhaal22`	`there's a parameter : irc_auto_rejoin = 0`
`01:44.21`	`Bhaal22`	`i think you have to put 1`
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`01:45.47`	`quidam-`	`Mutacion, :*`
`01:45.55`	`quidam-`	`ya te extrañaba :'(`
`01:46.33`	`Mutacion`	`churros!!`
`01:46.35`	`Mutacion`	`ese thana`
`01:46.36`	`Bhaal22`	`Phoul, you'll have to restart your xchat`
`01:46.39`	`Mutacion`	`yo no fui!!`
`01:46.58`	`Mutacion`	`yo no fui!! lo juro!!`
`01:46.58`	`Mutacion`	`xD`
`01:47.13`	`Mutacion`	`haha :P`
`01:47.13`	`Mutacion`	`qe paso`
`01:47.16`	`Phoul`	`Rotfl no i dont you just do...`
`01:47.28`	`Phoul`	`"/set irc_auto_rejoin on`
`01:47.37`	`Bhaal22`	`ah yop, nice`
`01:48.46`	`Bhaal22`	`this will be valid for the current session, /set ... doesn't write anythin in the configuration file`
`01:53.09`	`Bhaal22`	`it's time to sleep ... bye`
`01:54.12`	`Mutacion`	`bai`
`01:54.17`	`Phoul`	`<teacher> You think you can logicals define a rap song go for it <me> sure okay how about the song move bitch get out the way <teacher> ahahhahahaha fine prove it <me> okay well theres a bitch. That he needs out of the way. hence "move bitch get out da way" Its telling us to get all of the bitches outta da way`
`01:54.34`	`Phoul`	`>.>`
`01:54.39`	`Phoul`	`I will shut up`
`01:54.48`	`Mutacion`	`ermm..`
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`01:59.50`	`piper`	`hola a todos`
`02:00.30`	`Mutacion`	`qubole`
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`02:11.32`	`Phoul`	`LinuxNIT, sup?`
`02:11.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`nm`
`02:12.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`just finished fraggin people on q3`
`02:12.12`	`Phoul`	`o/You disapear like POOF bitch be gone/o`
`02:12.13`	`Phoul`	`>.>`
`02:12.15`	`Phoul`	`Lyrics`
`02:12.23`	`Phoul`	`I shouldnt post that kinda stuff in here m thinks`
`02:12.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`you have dirty mouth for a 14 yr`
`02:12.44`	`Phoul`	`Rotfl`
`02:12.47`	`Phoul`	`No i dont`
`02:12.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`uh yeah`
`02:12.53`	`Phoul`	`You should see some of my friends`
`02:13.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`so that doesnt mean you dont`
`02:13.44`	`Phoul`	`Meh`
`02:13.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`02:13.44`	`Phoul`	`Fine`
`02:13.44`	`Phoul`	`I have a dirty mouth`
`02:13.44`	`Phoul`	`is this room rated G?`
`02:13.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`better be careful we have Rev that hangs out in here`
`02:13.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`;)`
`02:13.45`	`Phoul`	`unk`
`02:14.28`	`Phoul`	`is he going to beat me with something holy to make me stop swearing?`
`02:14.35`	`Phoul`	`>.>`
`02:14.43`	`Phoul`	`That would be a cool power for a rev`
`02:14.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`i dunno`
`02:15.06`	`Phoul`	`but wouldnt that be awsome?`
`02:15.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`so swearing is cool aya?`
`02:15.26`	`Phoul`	`uhh`
`02:15.29`	`Phoul`	`No its just something i do`
`02:15.30`	`Phoul`	`:-\`
`02:15.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmmmm.....`
`02:18.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`so Phoul is elive still working good?`
`02:18.56`	`Phoul`	`Heck yes`
`02:18.59`	`Phoul`	`I got mercury working`
`02:19.01`	`Phoul`	`<3`
`02:19.42`	`LinuxNIT`	`mercury?`
`02:19.50`	`Phoul`	`Its a messenger client`
`02:19.53`	`Phoul`	`Its really nice`
`02:19.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`ah`
`02:20.04`	`Phoul`	`Its called "mercury:the messenger of gods"`
`02:20.05`	`Phoul`	`:P`
`02:20.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`02:21.58`	`Phoul`	`skype later?`
`02:22.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`sure`
`02:22.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`i gotta come up witha topic for my research paper`
`02:22.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`atm`
`02:24.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`i think its type for repairs :<<<<<`
`02:24.23`	`Phoul`	`wheres trashcan located`
`02:25.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`there is no trash can`
`02:25.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
`02:25.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`afaik`
`02:25.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`i never saw one`
`02:25.24`	`Phoul`	`Where can i look at stuff in trash then`
`02:25.27`	`Phoul`	`Stuff i deleted`
`02:25.32`	`Phoul`	`... i cant can i`
`02:25.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`you could try a file recovery program`
`02:25.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`:<`
`02:26.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`or ext3 or linux fs`
`02:26.32`	`LinuxNIT`	`:<`
`02:28.13`	`Phoul`	`meh`
`02:28.15`	`Phoul`	`I will just re dl it`
`02:28.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`02:28.51`	`Phoul`	`Poof b**** be gone!`
`02:28.52`	`Phoul`	`XD`
`02:28.57`	`LinuxNIT`	`i guess now youll be a bit more judicious with the delet key`
`02:28.59`	`Phoul`	`>.> i had that as my old trashcan sound`
`02:29.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`02:29.38`	`Phoul`	`*** EDJE ERROR: Cannot find timer to cancel`
`02:29.38`	`Phoul`	`*** NAUGHTY PROGRAMMER!!!`
`02:29.39`	`Phoul`	`*** SPANK SPANK SPANK!!!`
`02:29.39`	`Phoul`	`*** Now go fix your code. Tut tut tut!`
`02:29.40`	`Phoul`	`rotfl`
`02:29.55`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`02:30.01`	`LinuxNIT`	`howd that come up`
`02:30.15`	`Phoul`	`Changing songs in eclair`
`02:30.22`	`Phoul`	`Its still working fine but thats pretty funny`
`02:30.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`yah`
`02:30.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`thats one thing i love a bout linux`
`02:31.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`the have awsome error msgs`
`02:31.10`	`Phoul`	`yeah lol`
`02:31.24`	`Phoul`	`the first thing i noticed about linux`
`02:31.31`	`Phoul`	`BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH doesnt exist`
`02:31.33`	`Phoul`	`:)`
`02:31.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
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`02:32.18`	`Phoul`	`Yo we should talk before your house sleeps`
`02:32.24`	`Phoul`	`Because last night i couldnt even hear you rotfl`
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`02:37.20`	`LinuxNIT`	`welcome Elive_user`
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`02:39.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmm ...`
`02:40.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`well i tried to be friendly to him`
`02:40.05`	`LinuxNIT`	`:<`
`02:40.26`	`Phoul`	`meh`
`02:40.39`	`Phoul`	`apt slap Elive_user`
`02:40.44`	`apt`	`ACTION slaps Elive_user, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!`
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`03:04.45`	`dats`	`hello`
`03:05.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`howdy`
`03:13.50`	`GPLGeek`	`http://www.bbspot.com/News/2002/10/bsod_ads.html`
`03:15.29`	`LinuxNIT`	`lmfao`
`03:15.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`GPLGeek, thats hilarious`
`03:16.20`	`GPLGeek`	`blue screen of death is on the top 100 things you "most commonly see in computing"`
`03:16.23`	`GPLGeek`	`thats funny`
`03:17.23`	`LinuxNIT`	`GPLGeek, is this real?`
`03:17.35`	`GPLGeek`	`Who here has had a kernel panic because a user level app crashed? nobody? =)`
`03:18.11`	`GPLGeek`	`bsod ads was a joke`
`03:18.13`	`Phoul`	`ROOTFL`
`03:18.17`	`Phoul`	`XD`
`03:19.47`	`GPLGeek`	`the only way a kernel can panic is if either 1) the base is missing 2) modules use wrong headers 3) spill beer on the computer`
`03:21.51`	`LinuxNIT`	`omg out dog is in the tup trying to drink out of the faucet`
`03:21.57`	`LinuxNIT`	`out = our`
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`03:53.13`	`Mutacion`	`tnog frio :s`
`04:12.59`	`Phoul`	`LinuxNIT, you here?`
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`04:55.01`	`Elive_user58`	`does anyone know if entrance login manager ever got the capability for XDMCP`
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`05:06.08`	`revdjenk`	`hello...trying to apt-get 2.6.15 kernel and am told cannot find...someone want to check out - http://pastebin.com/621222 for me please?`
`05:07.24`	`quidam-`	`revdjenk, please paste your sources.list in pastebin :D`
`05:07.59`	`revdjenk`	`what sources...they should be in the one above`
`05:10.10`	`quidam-`	`paste this file`
`05:10.16`	`quidam-`	`/etc/apt/sources.list`
`05:10.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr`
`05:10.33`	`quidam-`	`i want to see your sources list :)`
`05:10.34`	`revdjenk`	`what tiger?`
`05:10.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`i got my laptop TOTALLY taken apart and im ready to fix it but i cant find the soldering iron`
`05:10.58`	`LinuxNIT`	`grrrrrrrrrrrr`
`05:12.17`	`Elive_user`	`quidam...term tells me permission denied and I am in root`
`05:12.47`	`revdjenk`	`that was me quidam...sorry`
`05:12.51`	`LinuxNIT`	`Phoul, i am here now whats up`
`05:13.08`	`Phoul`	`Nothin`
`05:13.09`	`Phoul`	`Brb`
`05:13.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`k`
`05:13.34`	`quidam-`	`revdjenk, :O`
`05:13.48`	`quidam-`	`is not possible :S`
`05:13.59`	`quidam-`	`if you are root you can see this file`
`05:14.00`	`quidam-`	`:S`
`05:14.01`	`revdjenk`	`well`
`05:14.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, do more /etc/apt/sources.list`
`05:15.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`even user can view it`
`05:16.11`	`revdjenk`	`http://pastebin.com/621232`
`05:16.14`	`revdjenk`	`tahdah`
`05:16.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`#`
`05:16.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:16.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`#`
`05:16.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`#Morphix repository ONLY for the liveCD mode, if you need for example the header`
`05:16.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`#`
`05:16.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`s of the 2.6.11 kernel`
`05:16.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`#`
`05:16.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`### deb http://www.morphix.org/debian ./`
`05:16.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`#`
`05:16.54`	`LinuxNIT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:16.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`this is not good`
`05:17.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`oops i didnt thinki grabbed that much sorry`
`05:17.29`	`revdjenk`	`I'm following the howto on Thana's page`
`05:17.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, open with scite`
`05:18.00`	`revdjenk`	`scite open`
`05:18.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`scite /etc/apt/sources.list`
`05:18.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`then paste what is in there to pastebin.com`
`05:18.54`	`revdjenk`	`### Elive repositories, select one. Important to are the first of your lines`
`05:18.54`	`revdjenk`	`deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive elive main efl elive`
`05:18.54`	`revdjenk`	`#deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive`
`05:18.54`	`revdjenk`	`### Debian repositories`
`05:18.55`	`revdjenk`	`deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free`
`05:18.55`	`LinuxNIT`	`scite will make sure its formatted right when you view it`
`05:18.56`	`revdjenk`	`#deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main`
`05:18.58`	`revdjenk`	`### Sources repository of Debian`
`05:19.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`no`
`05:19.00`	`revdjenk`	`#deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free`
`05:19.02`	`LinuxNIT`	`no`
`05:19.02`	`revdjenk`	`### Marillat repository, special multimedia`
`05:19.02`	`LinuxNIT`	`no`
`05:19.04`	`revdjenk`	`deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main`
`05:19.06`	`revdjenk`	`#Morphix repository ONLY for the liveCD mode, if you need for example the headers of the 2.6.11 kernel`
`05:19.08`	`revdjenk`	`### deb http://www.morphix.org/debian ./`
`05:19.10`	`revdjenk`	`whooops`
`05:20.19`	`revdjenk`	`http://pastebin.com/621239`
`05:20.42`	`revdjenk`	`looked the same to me`
`05:21.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`not to me`
`05:21.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`05:22.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`in the first one you had a line starting with "s of the 2.6.11 kernel" but this was due to the way the program " more" formated it`
`05:22.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`cause of size restrictions of the terminal`
`05:22.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`any way its fine as far as that goes`
`05:23.02`	`revdjenk`	`so...this worked last time...whatsup?`
`05:23.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`what does apt-get update do?`
`05:23.18`	`revdjenk`	`will that get the .15 kernel?`
`05:23.23`	`LinuxNIT`	`no`
`05:23.33`	`revdjenk`	`ah...well let me try`
`05:24.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`that will download the names of the packages avialable in you sources.list file`
`05:24.33`	`revdjenk`	`it is d/l packages`
`05:24.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`see above`
`05:24.55`	`revdjenk`	`done`
`05:25.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`any errors?`
`05:25.10`	`revdjenk`	`nope`
`05:25.16`	`LinuxNIT`	`try the install agian`
`05:25.30`	`revdjenk`	`brb`
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`05:26.08`	`LinuxNIT`	`welcome Elive_user52`
`05:26.29`	`LinuxNIT`	`well ok then`
`05:28.48`	`revdjenk`	`when this is done, I'm going to stick to e16 until v.5 comes out`
`05:29.03`	`Phoul`	`lol`
`05:29.04`	`Phoul`	`back`
`05:30.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, so its installing now?`
`05:30.56`	`revdjenk`	`initramfs did, still reports can't find kernel?Q!?!`
`05:31.01`	`Mutacion`	`apt bye`
`05:31.03`	`apt`	`cya`
`05:31.21`	`LinuxNIT`	`show me`
`05:31.53`	`revdjenk`	`http://pastebin.com/621255`
`05:32.23`	`LinuxNIT`	`where is the howto you are using?`
`05:32.43`	`revdjenk`	`http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/HowtoInstallKernel`
`05:33.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmmm`
`05:33.22`	`revdjenk`	`this is what I used last time...has Thana changed?`
`05:34.50`	`revdjenk`	`this was further down in the page...that needed the "tests" repo...deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive elive main efl elive tests`
`05:34.58`	`revdjenk`	`is it on my list?`
`05:35.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, im not sure about this`
`05:35.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`i think you need Thanatermesis or GPLGeek for this one`
`05:36.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
`05:36.08`	`revdjenk`	`yeah`
`05:36.10`	`GPLGeek`	`what happen`
`05:36.15`	`LinuxNIT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:36.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk http://pastebin.com/621255`
`05:36.26`	`revdjenk`	`trying to update my kernel`
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`05:36.58`	`GPLGeek`	`did you edit your /etc/apt/sources.lst and then apt-get update`
`05:37.19`	`revdjenk`	`deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive elive main efl elive tests`
`05:37.23`	`revdjenk`	`with that one?`
`05:37.43`	`revdjenk`	`I did do the update`
`05:38.00`	`GPLGeek`	`let me do an install of elive and then test every step`
`05:38.04`	`revdjenk`	`that is from the howto on Thana's site`
`05:38.28`	`revdjenk`	`I'm going from fresh .4.2 install`
`05:40.22`	`revdjenk`	`meanwhile...thanx LinuxNIT for your rescue`
`05:40.50`	`revdjenk`	`quidam and I were quickly over our heads, eh?`
`05:41.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`yw not that i solved much`
`05:41.27`	`Phoul`	`apt eclair`
`05:42.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`i think ill install elive to my desktop tonight`
`05:42.25`	`Phoul`	`<3!`
`05:42.29`	`Phoul`	`Teh elive pwns`
`05:44.04`	`revdjenk`	`wha? you don't have elive installed LinuxNIT ?`
`05:44.45`	`roxville`	`no`
`05:44.51`	`roxville`	`LinuxNIT, runs suse`
`05:44.57`	`LinuxNIT`	`?`
`05:44.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`suse?`
`05:45.03`	`roxville`	`yeah`
`05:45.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`who told you that?`
`05:45.06`	`roxville`	`suse`
`05:45.08`	`roxville`	`suse`
`05:45.20`	`revdjenk`	`if you knew suse like I knew suse....`
`05:45.20`	`LinuxNIT`	`not on my desktop. i had to wipe linux to try and convert a wmv3 file to avi in windows (needed the room) but it failed and i have not put linux back on yet`
`05:45.39`	`roxville`	`oh...`
`05:45.42`	`LinuxNIT`	`i have used suse and have the cd /dvd but it is not installed`
`05:45.43`	`revdjenk`	`oh...`
`05:45.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeah`
`05:45.52`	`revdjenk`	`oh what a gal`
`05:46.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`roxville, lol`
`05:46.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`roxville, ty`
`05:46.18`	`LinuxNIT`	`i know i have sinned greatly`
`05:46.20`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`05:46.21`	`roxville`	`:D`
`05:46.45`	`revdjenk`	`and I have to make some room to add tax software in windoze`
`05:46.56`	`revdjenk`	`:(`
`05:47.08`	`LinuxNIT`	`ok i gtg move my laptop pieces to a safe location (10month puppy in the house)`
`05:47.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`bbiab`
`05:47.18`	`revdjenk`	`your absolved LinuxNIT`
`05:47.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`05:47.56`	`revdjenk`	`laptop in pieces? oh yes soldering iron...what were you adding...fixing`
`05:50.04`	`GPLGeek`	`there is tax software for linux`
`05:50.06`	`GPLGeek`	`free`
`05:50.22`	`revdjenk`	`ah..haven't heard...where`
`05:50.54`	`revdjenk`	`I'll have to google...but last time I looked..there wuz none`
`05:51.06`	`GPLGeek`	`there are pay-for web based tax progs too`
`05:51.10`	`GPLGeek`	`turbotax securetax`
`05:51.22`	`GPLGeek`	`revdjenk, both projects are alpha and beta`
`05:51.35`	`revdjenk`	`yikes...`
`05:51.51`	`GPLGeek`	`http://www.arborway.net/koch/ on one other one that I forgot the name of`
`05:51.59`	`GPLGeek`	`I'd use the web based turnbotax`
`05:52.10`	`revdjenk`	`I would have to be on line for days for mine...not that there is a lot, jsut complicated for clergy`
`05:52.22`	`GPLGeek`	`there are viruses and spyware and trojans that are gunning for turbotax windows and other tax programs.`
`05:53.33`	`GPLGeek`	`gnutaxes was another one but there is still one other`
`05:53.58`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, the receptor on the mother board where the power cord plugs into it is loose and not making a good connection`
`05:54.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`i have to resolder it`
`05:54.20`	`LinuxNIT`	`hopefully with out frying my pc`
`05:54.23`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`05:54.26`	`revdjenk`	`well solder on soldier`
`05:54.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`i cant find the iron`
`05:54.42`	`LinuxNIT`	`grrrr`
`05:54.54`	`revdjenk`	`oh that's where I came in...`
`05:54.58`	`revdjenk`	`grrrrrrrrrr`
`05:55.14`	`revdjenk`	`you have a gas stove? hee hee`
`05:55.25`	`LinuxNIT`	`no i just left off exactly what i was trying to fix ;)`
`05:55.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`05:55.40`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeah we do :>`
`05:55.40`	`GPLGeek`	`LinuxNIT, you better not leave it on too long`
`05:55.43`	`GPLGeek`	`lol`
`05:55.50`	`GPLGeek`	`is the motherboard RMAable?`
`05:55.51`	`LinuxNIT`	`i know`
`05:55.54`	`revdjenk`	`light the pilot light`
`05:55.58`	`GPLGeek`	`or is it old`
`05:56.08`	`LinuxNIT`	`GPLGeek, RMAable?`
`05:56.20`	`LinuxNIT`	`what is that?`
`05:56.21`	`GPLGeek`	`does it have like a 3 year parts and service or something`
`05:56.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`i highly doubt it`
`05:56.42`	`GPLGeek`	`how old is it`
`05:57.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`a freind gave me a none working one with i then merged with another non working one to get mine`
`05:57.08`	`GPLGeek`	`36 month warranty on this one I'm using`
`05:57.32`	`revdjenk`	`you need two laps for that one!`
`05:57.57`	`LinuxNIT`	`it isa combination of a hp pavilion xf328 and a hp pavillion ze 1000`
`05:58.52`	`revdjenk`	`I could tackle desktops but laptops....my hats off to you!`
`05:59.26`	`GPLGeek`	`lol`
`05:59.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`05:59.45`	`GPLGeek`	`there was a guy that worked for grumman who made the first PDA`
`05:59.54`	`GPLGeek`	`it was big bulky`
`05:59.59`	`GPLGeek`	`the size of a ups sign pad`
`06:00.05`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`06:00.12`	`revdjenk`	`wasn't that the GRID?`
`06:00.17`	`revdjenk`	`hee hee`
`06:00.20`	`GPLGeek`	`I met him`
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`06:00.29`	`GPLGeek`	`I was a child then`
`06:00.29`	`LinuxNIT`	`isnt that like a laptop with a upsidedown screen that doesnt filp up?`
`06:00.42`	`revdjenk`	`right`
`06:01.14`	`revdjenk`	`There is a women here in Erie who worked on DEC's Alpha`
`06:01.24`	`revdjenk`	`how's that for ancient history`
`06:02.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`scary`
`06:02.27`	`revdjenk`	`first women in chip making history`
`06:02.34`	`revdjenk`	`!!`
`06:03.16`	`revdjenk`	`GPLGeek, how's the install?`
`06:03.32`	`roxville`	`i have a friend who's great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather invented the wheel..`
`06:03.56`	`roxville`	`<revdjenk> how's that for ancient history :PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP`
`06:04.02`	`GPLGeek`	`lol I just got the pc put back together`
`06:04.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmm sounds like my relative`
`06:04.17`	`roxville`	`lol`
`06:04.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`GPLGeek, lol`
`06:04.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`you and me both tearing them apart aye`
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`06:04.46`	`revdjenk`	`rox and I are the only ones with complete machines?`
`06:04.49`	`GPLGeek`	`I was doing some fun stuff...`
`06:04.52`	`GPLGeek`	`checking temps`
`06:04.59`	`GPLGeek`	`on each part of the system`
`06:05.03`	`GPLGeek`	`moving things`
`06:05.05`	`roxville`	`ehhh rev...`
`06:05.07`	`GPLGeek`	`I got the best airflow`
`06:05.14`	`revdjenk`	`I have one in the basement w/o cd and cover and memory and...`
`06:05.25`	`roxville`	`lol`
`06:05.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`revdjenk, im talking to you one my perfectly good and COMPLETE desktop :>`
`06:05.52`	`revdjenk`	`yeah`
`06:06.04`	`revdjenk`	`with suse?`
`06:06.06`	`revdjenk`	`hee hee`
`06:06.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`no suse`
`06:06.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`no suse`
`06:06.17`	`revdjenk`	`LOL`
`06:06.41`	`GPLGeek`	`i typoed`
`06:06.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`HMM GPLGeek i was never in #live`
`06:06.51`	`LinuxNIT`	`nice try though`
`06:06.54`	`revdjenk`	`take the extra e from LinuxNIT`
`06:07.25`	`revdjenk`	`US(E)ING`
`06:07.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`06:07.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`w/e`
`06:07.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`:)`
`06:08.21`	`LinuxNIT`	`bbl`
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`06:10.41`	`revdjenk`	`GPLGeek, google shows tax prog acitivity from around 1999-2002...and the only one who has a working prog that i have found so far, doesn't have all the forms I would need.`
`06:11.17`	`GPLGeek`	`ya`
`06:11.26`	`GPLGeek`	`you are correct =)`
`06:11.34`	`GPLGeek`	`and you dont exactly want to wine a tax program`
`06:11.46`	`GPLGeek`	`one messed up data type could land you in prison`
`06:11.48`	`revdjenk`	`I whine enough doing taxes`
`06:12.03`	`revdjenk`	`I pay them, but still whine`
`06:12.29`	`GPLGeek`	`do you get paid for being a rev`
`06:12.30`	`roxville`	`whiners, schriners`
`06:12.39`	`revdjenk`	`yes...`
`06:12.45`	`GPLGeek`	`have another job?`
`06:12.48`	`revdjenk`	`no`
`06:13.41`	`revdjenk`	`we "mainliners" usually work that way`
`06:13.53`	`roxville`	`:D`
`06:14.08`	`GPLGeek`	`I have no problem with that. Obviously people thinkg you are a good investment.`
`06:14.20`	`GPLGeek`	`it just makes it hell on taxes to mix job and non profit`
`06:14.46`	`revdjenk`	`I keep reminding them that what they are supporting is "time" that way I am always available.`
`06:15.12`	`revdjenk`	`yes, employee for tax purposes, self-employed according to Soc Sec!`
`06:16.10`	`GPLGeek`	`I think I should be paid for the "time" I spend on elive. Beer is a good value-holding method of exchange.`
`06:16.53`	`GPLGeek`	`I would like that job`
`06:16.57`	`revdjenk`	`roxville, that fits espcially if you know the old George Carlin bits about Shriners!! Drink up Shriners`
`06:17.02`	`GPLGeek`	`I like to help people`
`06:17.18`	`revdjenk`	`yep, I noticed your "spirit"`
`06:17.28`	`GPLGeek`	`funny because I'm an irc bot`
`06:17.44`	`revdjenk`	`that's exactly what got me into ministry`
`06:19.10`	`GPLGeek`	`I'm written in python and can simulate typos and afk's`
`06:19.40`	`revdjenk`	`afk's`
`06:19.43`	`revdjenk`	`?`
`06:19.53`	`GPLGeek`	`away from keyboards`
`06:20.35`	`revdjenk`	`yes and reinstalling as a sidelight`
`06:21.53`	`GPLGeek`	`bah, i'm running out of time`
`06:21.58`	`GPLGeek`	`I have to get up at 7 tomorrow`
`06:23.15`	`GPLGeek`	`I'll have time to test the kernel install`
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`06:25.08`	`GPLGeek`	`hi Elive_user39`
`06:25.15`	`o[WildChild]o`	`yop`
`06:25.25`	`GPLGeek`	`welcome to my magical kingdom`
`06:25.31`	`o[WildChild]o`	`lol`
`06:25.33`	`o[WildChild]o`	`you hippie`
`06:25.34`	`o[WildChild]o`	`:)`
`06:25.38`	`revdjenk`	`OK...I'll check back then...`
`06:27.32`	`GPLGeek`	`oh crap.`
`06:27.42`	`GPLGeek`	`my ethernet isnt working right on the new install`
`06:27.44`	`GPLGeek`	`lol`
`06:27.47`	`o[WildChild]o`	`howdy`
`06:27.53`	`GPLGeek`	`howdy o[WildChild]o`
`06:28.59`	`GPLGeek`	`i forgot to activate them ROFL`
`06:29.05`	`GPLGeek`	`im stupid todayh`
`06:29.09`	`o[WildChild]o`	`today?`
`06:29.15`	`o[WildChild]o`	`^-^`
`06:30.58`	`GPLGeek`	`ahh, there is a gpg problem`
`06:31.15`	`GPLGeek`	`apt-get upgrade and then select yes without verification.`
`06:31.35`	`Phoul`	`GPLGeek, i did that yesterday`
`06:31.36`	`Phoul`	`rotfl`
`06:31.46`	`Phoul`	`i was like wtf i followed the tutoriel@`
`06:31.58`	`GPLGeek`	`o[WildChild]o, you try dealing with 5 keyboards and 15 people when you are suposed to be asleep lol`
`06:32.00`	`Phoul`	`Activate is the key to life`
`06:32.08`	`GPLGeek`	`lol`
`06:32.16`	`o[WildChild]o`	`GPLGeek, I wish I was that popular ^-^`
`06:33.51`	`revdjenk`	`yeah! GPLGeek I have the kernel installing`
`06:34.21`	`GPLGeek`	`that was the problem?`
`06:34.23`	`revdjenk`	`just retyped update and it really updated this time`
`06:34.27`	`GPLGeek`	`thought it would be something trivial`
`06:34.31`	`revdjenk`	`don't know why`
`06:34.48`	`revdjenk`	`thanks for the help, anyway...`
`06:35.40`	`revdjenk`	`still showing some sources not found`
`06:35.55`	`revdjenk`	`but seems to have finished`
`06:36.35`	`GPLGeek`	`something is up`
`06:36.40`	`GPLGeek`	`maybe thana was updating the mirrors at the time`
`06:36.44`	`GPLGeek`	`i bet thats it`
`06:37.00`	`revdjenk`	`should I complete the install then?`
`06:37.20`	`GPLGeek`	`why not`
`06:37.26`	`revdjenk`	`k`
`06:37.38`	`GPLGeek`	`worse case senario you just use your .12 entry instead of your .15 entry in your grub`
`06:37.52`	`revdjenk`	`gotcha`
`06:39.06`	`GPLGeek`	`thana is having connection problems`
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`06:40.49`	`revdjenk`	`k...I'm going to reboot...see ya tomorrow if this doesn't work!`
`06:40.58`	`GPLGeek`	`ok`
`06:41.05`	`GPLGeek`	`im going to wash the dirt off of me`
`06:41.12`	`GPLGeek`	`been cleaining today`
`06:41.23`	`revdjenk`	`remember last time you said...why not go ahead!!!`
`06:41.28`	`GPLGeek`	`ill stay around for a minute`
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`06:45.16`	`revdjenk`	`tah-dah...now to get wifi working....`
`06:45.51`	`revdjenk`	`I see ya there!!!`
`06:45.55`	`GPLGeek`	`If you have one you know that they drop connections =)`
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`06:46.41`	`revdjenk`	`no...verizon supplied westlink`
`06:47.07`	`revdjenk`	`at least this time I have audio, too`
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`06:58.15`	`GPLGeek`	`revdjenk, apt-get install -f`
`06:58.33`	`GPLGeek`	`just to be safe`
`06:58.40`	`revdjenk`	`on the howto is is the other way...it worked!`
`06:58.53`	`revdjenk`	`of should I do again?`
`06:59.26`	`GPLGeek`	`well... if it works then dont worry`
`06:59.44`	`GPLGeek`	`i just figured there might be some packages hanging around confused`
`06:59.45`	`revdjenk`	`I wasn't; but now I am!!`
`07:00.13`	`revdjenk`	`there still are a couple sources still not found`
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`07:07.33`	`GPLGeek`	`my 2.6.15 works, yours does, we happy`
`07:07.38`	`GPLGeek`	`time to sleep!`
`07:08.06`	`revdjenk`	`we happy tooooo...and sleepy me tooo`
`07:08.10`	`revdjenk`	`g'nite all`
`07:08.12`	`GPLGeek`	`Good night everyone`
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`08:59.03`	`Elive_user`	`hi`
`08:59.25`	`Elive_user`	`could anybody help me a little with elive`
`08:59.26`	`Elive_user`	`?`
`08:59.27`	`Elive_user`	`:)`
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`10:44.37`	`get[PC01]`	`Thanatermesis,`
`10:44.41`	`get[PC01]`	`tengo un problemon`
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`10:49.59`	`get[PC01]`	`wenas`
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`13:49.35`	`zoombie_`	`hola!!!!`
`13:49.43`	`zoombie_`	`hablan español????`
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`13:54.19`	`Smjor`	`Hmm, whats the IP for the elive essence stream?`
`13:57.51`	`Smjor`	`anyone?`
`13:59.30`	`zoombie_`	`hola Smjor me ayudas?`
`14:00.31`	`Smjor`	`No hablo muy bien español, zoombie_, pero que es IP de elive-essence stream?`
`14:01.27`	`zoombie_`	`buscalo en google, me imagino q es la IP q usa elive en tu computador`
`14:01.57`	`Smjor`	`ok, gracias!`
`14:03.02`	`pr0t0cod7`	`maybe http://64.236.34.4:80/stream/1008 :P`
`14:04.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`zoombie_ que no cambia ?`
`14:06.03`	`zoombie_`	`dale`
`14:06.07`	`zoombie_`	`ya toy aqui`
`14:06.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`a ver`
`14:06.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`lanzas elpanel`
`14:06.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`en el segundo icono`
`14:06.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`y cambias el idiomas`
`14:06.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`y sales del sistema grafico`
`14:06.47`	`zoombie_`	`mira lo q psa es yo meto el livecd de elive`
`14:06.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`y cuando vuelves a entrar.. no esta en español ?`
`14:06.47`	`zoombie_`	`nop`
`14:06.47`	`zoombie_`	`n esta`
`14:06.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`espera, liveCD o sistema instalado ?`
`14:07.28`	`zoombie_`	`livecd ?? tengo q instalarlo para poder ver todas laas opciones??? por eso lo estoy provando ..`
`14:07.50`	`zoombie_`	`a ver si tiene soporte al español q sin duda lo debe tener`
`14:08.10`	`zoombie_`	`pero en el livecd no me lo cambia??`
`14:08.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`a ver`
`14:08.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive funciona muchissimo mejor como sistema instalado que como liveCD`
`14:08.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`si lo instalas podras cambiar el idioma y el teclado, eso esta claro`
`14:08.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`y deberia de funcionar tambien en el sistema liveCD que yo sepa`
`14:08.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero eso nunca se a probado`
`14:09.08`	`zoombie_`	`mmmmm`
`14:09.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`de todas formas pruebalo... ya has seleccionado el idioma español y el teclado en español en elpanel ?`
`14:09.41`	`zoombie_`	`q no se a provado`
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`14:10.24`	`get_pc01`	`Thanatermesis,`
`14:10.26`	`get_pc01`	`estas?`
`14:10.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo, si`
`14:10.31`	`get_pc01`	`tegno ua dudilla`
`14:10.45`	`get_pc01`	`como puedo añadir un iconito del thunderbird al escritorio de e17 ?`
`14:10.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`zoombie_ a ver, ves a "elpanel", y cambia el idoma y el teclado, cuando lo hayas hecho avisame`
`14:10.59`	`get_pc01`	`al lado del existente del firefox`
`14:11.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`hum`
`14:11.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso es un FAQ get_pc01`
`14:11.21`	`zoombie_`	`ok Thanatermesis ya vengo`
`14:11.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`el problema es que no existe aun ninguna documentacion de tipo FAQ`
`14:11.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDD`
`14:11.33`	`get_pc01`	`bueno y no me lo vas a decir ahora mismo no?`
`14:11.44`	`get_pc01`	`ya te hare uno yo pues en 3 idiomas`
`14:11.46`	`get_pc01`	`....`
`14:11.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`a ver, prueba esto`
`14:12.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`lanza el thunderbird, si te sale un icono en la esquina izquierda superior, arrastralo hasta el ibar`
`14:12.52`	`get_pc01`	`voy aver`
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`14:13.24`	`get_pc01`	`pos no`
`14:13.50`	`get_pc01`	`al pincharlo sin soltar y moverlo no se mueve y al soltarlo encima del ibar. namas me abre el thunderbird pero no me ha movio el icono`
`14:14.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`pincharlo y arrastrarlo`
`14:14.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno mira, mejor`
`14:14.49`	`get_pc01`	`drag & drop`
`14:14.52`	`get_pc01`	`lo se`
`14:14.54`	`get_pc01`	`no va`
`14:14.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`picale a ese menu que te sale en ese supuesto icono`
`14:15.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`y dile "crear icono"`
`14:15.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`despues de eso, haciendo lo mismo deberia de funcionar :)`
`14:15.15`	`get_pc01`	`ein?`
`14:15.22`	`get_pc01`	`en q icono?`
`14:15.25`	`get_pc01`	`q menuç'`
`14:15.28`	`get_pc01`	`¿¿¿¿`
`14:15.30`	`get_pc01`	`?¿¿?¿?`
`14:16.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`14:16.15`	`bouba_diop`	`hi all!:). how can i open the console in elive-unstable? thanks`
`14:16.29`	`get_pc01`	`ctrl + alt + F2`
`14:16.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`bouba_diop /j #channel`
`14:16.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`14:16.42`	`get_pc01`	`or exec Eterm`
`14:16.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`get_pc01 veamos, lo necesitas ahora mismo o podrias esperar una horita ?`
`14:16.55`	`get_pc01`	`me gustaria`
`14:17.06`	`get_pc01`	`poder hacerlo ahroa q me falta eso pònerle un icono`
`14:17.14`	`bouba_diop`	`ok thanks`
`14:17.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`ves la parte de la barra de titulo que sale un usupuesto icono ?`
`14:17.19`	`get_pc01`	`perp bueno puedo esperar unos miuntillos me lio con otro pc de mientras.`
`14:17.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`que seguramente sea como una "ventana vacia" (el dibujo del icono)`
`14:17.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno.. lo decia para escribir la doc detallada y tal`
`14:18.36`	`get_pc01`	`si`
`14:18.41`	`get_pc01`	`crear icono y ahoa q?`
`14:18.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`saca el menu y picale a "crear icono"`
`14:19.03`	`get_pc01`	`ya`
`14:19.07`	`get_pc01`	`y ahora?`
`14:19.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`14:19.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`lo creas, y cuando lo vuelvas a lanzar (o en el momento), tendras el icono de verdad para ese programa, no ?`
`14:20.05`	`get_pc01`	`vi aver reinicio el thunderb..`
`14:21.00`	`get_pc01`	`cuando minimizo ahora el thunderbird no me sale en la barra de tareas ....`
`14:21.24`	`get_pc01`	`y abajo al lado del firefox no ha cambiado nada ...`
`14:22.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`:/`
`14:22.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`creo que me e perdido un poco alli`
`14:22.38`	`get_pc01`	`pues eso`
`14:22.53`	`get_pc01`	`ahora ya no teine icono por defecto y al minimizarlo ya no lo veo arriba en la barra ...`
`14:23.05`	`get_pc01`	`namas con el click en el escritorio > ventanas`
`14:23.13`	`get_pc01`	`o alt + tab`
`14:23.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero le creaste el icono correctamente ?`
`14:23.27`	`get_pc01`	`si no me dejaba elegir de iconos...`
`14:23.34`	`get_pc01`	`no hay iconos pa elegir`
`14:23.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno... lo dicho... si me das unos minutos hago la doc, y con el thunderbird de ejemplo xD`
`14:23.39`	`get_pc01`	`uno vacio`
`14:23.47`	`get_pc01`	`ok`
`14:23.52`	`get_pc01`	`voy a liarme con otra cosa`
`14:23.53`	`get_pc01`	`...`
`14:23.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`14:26.38`	`get_PC02`	`en este pc haz q hacer lo mza veras xD`
`14:26.52`	`get_PC02`	`mismo`
`14:26.56`	`get_PC02`	`ya veras`
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`14:29.26`	`revdjenk`	`Phoul, how's your history project`
`14:31.04`	`revdjenk`	`Thanatermesis, well I'm back and wifi in elive!`
`14:31.36`	`revdjenk`	`e16, your .15 kernel...no audio...oh well`
`14:36.05`	`revdjenk`	`just glad to be back.... well, back to preparing my sermon...have a good day`
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`14:38.42`	`get_pc02`	`Thanatermesis,`
`14:38.44`	`get_pc02`	`estas?`
`14:39.00`	`get_pc02`	`una preguntilla. como le digo q me coja la impresora q az configurada en el pc 1?`
`14:39.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`si... en medio de una guerra de bans y kicks pero si`
`14:39.32`	`get_pc02`	`a quien baneas?`
`14:39.37`	`get_pc02`	`me apunto dame +o`
`14:39.38`	`get_pc02`	`:D`
`14:39.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`nada, es en #debian-es`
`14:40.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`que te coja la impresora el pc02 de la pc01 ¿?`
`14:40.09`	`get_pc02`	`te azudo?`
`14:40.10`	`get_pc02`	`:D`
`14:40.18`	`get_pc02`	`si`
`14:40.26`	`get_pc02`	`tengo dos impresoras configuradas za en el pc 1`
`14:40.35`	`get_pc02`	`*ya`
`14:40.41`	`get_pc02`	`puto teclado aleman`
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`14:42.54`	`get_pc02`	`mmm`
`14:43.03`	`get_pc02`	`como puedo ver la impresora z legir cual quiero?`
`14:43.14`	`get_pc02`	`y*`
`14:43.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`si te digo la verdad`
`14:43.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`no tengo impresora xD`
`14:43.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`asi que el tema por mi parte esta muy poco probado ni se como va`
`14:43.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero desde elpanel te deberia de salir todo, no ?`
`14:45.11`	`get_pc02`	`si?`
`14:45.16`	`get_pc02`	`me sale un ventana`
`14:45.31`	`get_pc02`	`z me dice q ipp://ipdelpc/port1`
`14:45.48`	`get_pc02`	`pero como se yo cual es la impresora?`
`14:50.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`npi xD`
`14:50.19`	`Phoul`	`hey Thanatermesis`
`14:50.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`hey Phoul`
`14:50.37`	`Phoul`	`Man its early ><`
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`14:52.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es early`
`14:52.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`16:00 pm here`
`14:53.37`	`get_pc02`	`y aki tambien`
`14:53.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`get_pc01 pregunta lo del ipp://ipdelpc/port1, da mas detalles, di que la configuraste en uno y quieres usarla desde otro`
`14:54.04`	`get_pc02`	`eso es`
`14:54.07`	`get_pc02`	`en uno zasta`
`14:54.11`	`get_pc02`	`*yasta`
`14:55.02`	`get_pc02`	`q uso? cups o lpd`
`14:55.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo no tengo ni idea de eso xD`
`14:55.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`aunque deberian de funcionar los 2`
`14:56.34`	`get_pc02`	`za pero si no explicas como configurarlo ... no hlo he hecho nunca ....`
`14:56.40`	`get_pc02`	`zo tampoco no tengo impresora ....`
`14:56.49`	`get_pc02`	`z = y`
`14:57.07`	`get_pc02`	`bind "z" "+y"`
`14:58.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`14:58.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`es que yo tempoco se :/`
`14:58.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo lo probe asi por encima en casa de alguien que tenia impresora pero no mas`
`14:58.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`ves probando cosas y pregunta en #debian-es que alli saben`
`14:59.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`y si ves algo que habria que cambiar/mejorar en Elive avisa ;)`
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`15:10.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`get_pc01 http://www.wikinix.org/index.php?title=Compartir_impresora_entre_Linux_con_CUPS-HowTo get_pc02`
`15:12.21`	`get_pc02`	`a enial`
`15:13.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`cuando se supone que tu problema le puede ocurrir a mas de uno, la respuesta seguro que la encuentras en internet`
`15:13.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`y si tu problema parece muy "unico", seguro que hay alguien como tu que hizo lo mismo, asi que tendrias muchas probabilidades de encontrarlo tambien en internet xd`
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`15:18.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`get_pc02 esto parece lo mismo: http://wiki.vidalinux.com/index.php/Sharing_printers_with_cups`
`15:18.50`	`get_pc01`	`Stylus-C70---CUPS+Gutenprint-v5.0.0-rc2`
`15:19.09`	`get_pc01`	`reboot`
`15:21.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`parece facil get_pc02, habria que ver si no se puede hacer por el mismo interface de configuracion de impresoras y sino... escribiendo un pequeño articulo en la nueva pagina de Elive de doc ;)`
`15:21.59`	`get_pc02`	`sep`
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`15:24.42`	`get_pc02`	`ahor ame dice q el server cups no ha podio ser contactado....`
`15:24.53`	`get_pc02`	`mira si no acabo anes configurando una imrpesora en el sistema este`
`15:24.54`	`get_pc02`	`....`
`15:25.00`	`get_pc02`	`seran por impresoras.`
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`15:25.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`se deberia de poder, eh ?`
`15:25.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`seguiste lo que ponia en esa guia ?`
`15:26.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`no se si sera necesario tener el mismo usuario en ambas maquinas (prueba)`
`15:27.24`	`get_pc02`	`si`
`15:27.36`	`get_pc02`	`son el mismo user en ambas.`
`15:27.44`	`get_pc02`	`pasame la pag de nuevo`
`15:27.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`oye, pues la guia esta esta muy buena`
`15:27.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://www.wikinix.org/index.php?title=Compartir_impresora_entre_Linux_con_CUPS-HowTo`
`15:28.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`si me dices que funciona la meto directamente en la pagina de doc de Elive ;)`
`15:30.00`	`get_pc02`	`toz en ello`
`15:33.01`	`get_pc02`	`beuno pues pa empyar en eliveel etc/hosts esta vacio`
`15:33.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`yap`
`15:33.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, que ?`
`15:33.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`como que esta vacio ?`
`15:33.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`no puede ser`
`15:33.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`si es asi, eso es un bug`
`15:33.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`vacio vacio ? no tiene nada ?`
`15:34.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`en /etc/hosts ? de la 0.4.2 ?¿`
`15:34.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`instalada*`
`15:34.12`	`get_pc02`	`mira`
`15:34.16`	`get_pc02`	`ahora lo he editado`
`15:34.31`	`get_pc02`	`exec -o cat /etc/osts`
`15:34.35`	`get_pc02`	`cat: /etc/osts: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden`
`15:34.43`	`get_pc02`	`127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost PC02`
`15:34.43`	`get_pc02`	`# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts`
`15:34.43`	`get_pc02`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:34.43`	`get_pc02`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:34.43`	`get_pc02`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:34.43`	`get_pc02`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:34.46`	`get_pc02`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:34.47`	`get_pc02`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:34.49`	`get_pc02`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:35.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso es tuyo o ya estaba alli ?`
`15:35.34`	`get_pc02`	`si nada estaba bien`
`15:35.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`me asustaste :)`
`15:35.43`	`get_pc02`	`ahora debo aöadir el otro no?`
`15:36.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`pse`
`15:36.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`no iria mal`
`15:36.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`algo asi:`
`15:36.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`192.168.1.201 nemesis`
`15:36.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`ese es un ejemplo mio`
`15:36.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`entonces si meto ese nombre, no me hace falta meter la ip, es como un "alias" o un "sinonimo"`
`15:36.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`no es realmente necesario pero va bien`
`15:37.15`	`get_pc02`	`127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost PC02`
`15:37.15`	`get_pc02`	`192.168.1.12 PC02`
`15:37.15`	`get_pc02`	`192.168.1.10 PC01`
`15:37.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`Phoul if you click on eclair, left button, you don't have the option "remove all" ?`
`15:37.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`get_pc02 la segunda linea no, esa ya esta puesta justo encima`
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`15:40.44`	`Elive_user`	`get_pc02`
`15:42.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`get_pc02 la segunda linea no, esa ya esta puesta justo encima`
`15:42.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`<get_pc02> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost PC02`
`15:42.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`<get_pc02> 192.168.1.12 PC02`
`15:42.32`	`get_pc02`	`127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost PC02`
`15:42.32`	`get_pc02`	`192.168.1.12 PC02`
`15:42.32`	`get_pc02`	`192.168.1.10 PC01`
`15:42.32`	`get_pc02`	`# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts`
`15:42.32`	`get_pc02`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`15:42.47`	`get_pc02`	`vale`
`15:43.22`	`get_pc02`	`127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost PC02`
`15:43.22`	`get_pc02`	`192.168.1.12 PC02`
`15:43.22`	`get_pc02`	`# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts`
`15:43.22`	`get_pc02`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`15:43.31`	`get_pc02`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:43.33`	`get_pc02`	`zasta`
`15:43.55`	`get_pc02`	`oze como hago un rehash o algo deso?`
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`15:44.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`rehash ?`
`15:44.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`para que ?`
`15:44.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`pinguea PC02`
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`15:45.40`	`Elive_user`	`Stylus-C70---CUPS+Gutenprint-v5.0.0-rc2`
`15:48.26`	`get_pc02`	`no exite una manera de explorar la red y autodetectarlo?`
`15:48.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`quizas desde el programa que hay en elpanel`
`15:48.51`	`get_pc02`	`no`
`15:49.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`ni idea entonces :/`
`15:50.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`joder, si esta tirado desde el configurador de impesoras de elpanel get_pc02 xD`
`15:50.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`a ver`
`15:50.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`cual es el nombre de la impresora que le pusiste a pc01 ?`
`15:52.01`	`get_pc02`	`Stylus-C70---CUPS+Gutenprint-v5.0.0-rc2`
`15:52.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://PC02:631/ipp/nombreimpresora`
`15:52.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso no sirve ?`
`15:52.21`	`get_pc02`	`lo q pasaq q el cups server.conf da pena`
`15:52.26`	`get_pc02`	`ahora voz a editarlo bien`
`15:53.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`ese nombre que tienes alli es correcto ?`
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`15:53.26`	`get_pc02`	`sep`
`15:53.44`	`Elive_user`	`hello everybody`
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`15:54.27`	`Elive_user`	`is my first time on this chat`
`15:54.37`	`get_pc02`	`como reinicio el cupsd`
`15:54.40`	`get_pc02`	`?`
`15:54.56`	`roxville`	`hello Elive_user , welcome!`
`15:55.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:55.03`	`roxville`	`first time using elive too?`
`15:55.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`hello Elive_user`
`15:55.10`	`Elive_user`	`yes`
`15:55.20`	`Elive_user`	`how can I change my nickname`
`15:55.26`	`roxville`	`cool! how do you like it so far?`
`15:55.26`	`Elive_user`	`trom Elive_user`
`15:55.34`	`Elive_user`	`I used Mac for many years`
`15:55.41`	`roxville`	`Elive_user, type /nick andyournewnick`
`15:55.42`	`Elive_user`	`and the interface is very similiar with mac os x`
`15:56.03`	`roxville`	`yes... i know.... i'm a mac fan too`
`15:56.03`	`get_pc02`	`en slack es /etc/rc.cups restart`
`15:56.06`	`thracian`	`and linux evolved fantastically`
`15:56.13`	`get_pc02`	`thracian, zep`
`15:56.24`	`get_pc02`	`nice os atm`
`15:56.24`	`thracian`	`i remeber in 96 trying compiling the kernel on redhat 2`
`15:56.51`	`thracian`	`this version/elive is the best interface i ever saw`
`15:57.00`	`thracian`	`and faster`
`15:57.01`	`roxville`	`lol... that's when i sold my pc with win95 coz i hated it`
`15:57.33`	`thracian`	`the guys must work more for SATA support`
`15:57.39`	`thracian`	`many new pc are coming with sata`
`15:57.42`	`thracian`	`hdd+cdrom`
`15:57.51`	`get_pc02`	`i have sata and used express isntalaton and it works reat.`
`15:57.58`	`get_pc02`	`*great`
`15:58.01`	`thracian`	`i am from romania and many companies are selling pc with linux om`
`15:58.02`	`thracian`	`oem`
`15:58.05`	`thracian`	`80% of them`
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`15:58.13`	`thracian`	`is getting stronger`
`15:58.30`	`thracian`	`this version is much better than many others`
`15:58.35`	`thracian`	`simple`
`15:58.39`	`thracian`	`and not too complex`
`15:58.53`	`thracian`	`for an dummy-average user`
`15:58.56`	`roxville`	`:)`
`15:59.12`	`thracian`	`i was not able to install elive on my sata drive`
`15:59.23`	`thracian`	`i erased Mandrake :)`
`15:59.28`	`thracian`	`to replace with elive`
`15:59.36`	`get_pc02`	`reat choice`
`15:59.48`	`thracian`	`I think that the "big" linux`
`15:59.56`	`thracian`	`are going more versus corporate people`
`16:00.05`	`thracian`	`selling a distribution full with everything`
`16:00.11`	`thracian`	`and confusing people`
`16:00.15`	`get_pc02`	`linux is unsellable`
`16:00.17`	`thracian`	`I mean`
`16:00.30`	`get_pc02`	`support of a distro si sellable`
`16:00.30`	`thracian`	`what is the sense to have 10 email clients installed by default ?`
`16:00.41`	`get_pc02`	`nowaz`
`16:00.52`	`get_pc02`	`thunderbird i the est one atm`
`16:00.53`	`get_pc02`	`:D`
`16:00.55`	`thracian`	`I think a linux seller will gain more if build a distribution for a certain pc`
`16:00.57`	`thracian`	`for ex`
`16:01.10`	`thracian`	`If I am making a laptop with a certain configuration`
`16:01.12`	`get_pc02`	`g2g`
`16:01.17`	`get_pc02`	`me largo de aki`
`16:01.23`	`thracian`	`a linux maker can compile a linux for that particular pc`
`16:01.23`	`get_pc02`	`maöana mas`
`16:01.27`	`thracian`	`and seling it with the pc`
`16:01.36`	`get_pc02`	`mmm`
`16:01.42`	`thracian`	`customise-it`
`16:02.00`	`thracian`	`I worked for some time in develloping linux embeded system`
`16:02.09`	`thracian`	`and here is a region were you can make money`
`16:02.20`	`thracian`	`building custom linux distributions`
`16:02.24`	`get_pc02`	`i have buyed 4 new pcs and im starting thecvcomplete business with eliv :D`
`16:02.27`	`get_pc02`	`elive`
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`16:03.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`get_pc02 que tal fueron las conexiones de las impresoras entonces ? lo conseguiste ?`
`16:03.49`	`get_pc02`	`no`
`16:03.51`	`get_pc02`	`aun no`
`16:03.59`	`get_pc02`	`me cago en to..`
`16:04.05`	`thracian`	`non hablo espaniol`
`16:04.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`cambia "ipp" de la direccion por "printers"`
`16:04.14`	`roxville`	`thracian, it's ok`
`16:04.23`	`thracian`	`by the way`
`16:04.26`	`roxville`	`this channel is for all languages`
`16:04.29`	`thracian`	`i was thinking`
`16:04.29`	`get_pc02`	`es como lo intnto dede el elpanel`
`16:04.36`	`roxville`	`we are proud of it too :)`
`16:04.37`	`thracian`	`to do a sort of benckmarking for elive`
`16:04.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`thracian dont worry, im just speaking with he to try to use the printer of one computer from another ;)`
`16:04.47`	`goldstein`	`help: where do i get the header files for my kernel 2.6.12?`
`16:05.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`goldstein forget it`
`16:05.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`its lost`
`16:05.12`	`thracian`	`for ex`
`16:05.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`we have only for the next 2.6.15 kernel`
`16:05.20`	`thracian`	`i wrote some codes for nanotehc studies`
`16:05.24`	`thracian`	`written in c++`
`16:05.24`	`goldstein`	`damn`
`16:05.31`	`goldstein`	`thx Thanatermesis`
`16:05.34`	`thracian`	`and I will test it on winxp`
`16:05.35`	`thracian`	`and elive`
`16:05.42`	`thracian`	`to see how long time is taking`
`16:05.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`<thracian> to do a sort of benckmarking for Elive`
`16:05.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`nice ! :)`
`16:05.47`	`get_pc02`	`thracian, u know mazbe how to conf a printer in netork?`
`16:05.50`	`roxville`	`cool!`
`16:06.03`	`thracian`	`or video encoding`
`16:06.16`	`thracian`	`that will be nice to test it with another linux as well`
`16:06.35`	`thracian`	`i will install ubunti linux 5.10 some days`
`16:06.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`if you make this tests, i put it to the future documentation of Elive page ;) http://wiki.elivecd.org`
`16:06.39`	`thracian`	`i downloaded the dvd`
`16:06.51`	`get_pc02`	`ubuntu?`
`16:06.52`	`goldstein`	`how do i upgrade kernel:P?`
`16:06.54`	`thracian`	`ok`
`16:06.55`	`roxville`	`thracian, this is what the enlightenment desktop is built on... mostly: http://www.cuddletech.com/edje/docs/html/edje_book.html`
`16:07.12`	`thracian`	`i think that for the common user`
`16:07.19`	`roxville`	`if you can learn this... you'll be GOD`
`16:07.20`	`thracian`	`he does not care what linux is on`
`16:07.23`	`thracian`	`elive is differente`
`16:07.35`	`thracian`	`a different graphical interface`
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`16:07.58`	`thracian`	`more friendly`
`16:08.01`	`Phoul`	`anyone know where i can dl some e16 desktop pics?`
`16:08.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`goldstein http://thana.no-ip.org/trac`
`16:08.23`	`goldstein`	`thx`
`16:08.53`	`roxville`	`Phoul, what do you mean? screenshots or backgrounds?`
`16:09.04`	`Phoul`	`backgrounds`
`16:09.32`	`roxville`	`Phoul, they are pngs... mostly`
`16:09.35`	`thracian`	`tommorow I will try to install elive to an powermac`
`16:09.49`	`thracian`	`under VMWare and made a screenshot`
`16:09.54`	`thracian`	`just for fun`
`16:10.12`	`roxville`	`Phoul, here's a few http://wiki.elivecd.org/community/en/image`
`16:10.44`	`roxville`	`wow, that's sounds like aproject :)`
`16:11.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`Phoul if you click on eclair, left button, you don't have the option "remove all" ?`
`16:11.41`	`Phoul`	`Nope`
`16:11.52`	`Phoul`	`I figured out how tho`
`16:12.09`	`Phoul`	`Well you cant but if you want only 1 dir you do eclair /home/username/folder`
`16:12.21`	`goldstein`	`Thanatermesis, your site is down?`
`16:13.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`hum`
`16:14.29`	`get_pc01`	`imageRunner-330s`
`16:14.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`sigh`
`16:14.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`what happens again with my ip's...`
`16:14.59`	`Phoul`	`heh`
`16:15.08`	`goldstein`	`:/`
`16:19.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`test`
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`16:21.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok goldstein, try it now`
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`16:21.21`	`TechnoMage`	`arg`
`16:21.32`	`TechnoMage`	`How do i ge t my iconbox back in e16 it disapeared`
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`16:21.39`	`roxville`	`Phoul, in your e16 menu, under "utils" is an option called "download non-free wallpapers... try those`
`16:21.45`	`goldstein`	`Thanatermesis, i don't think so.`
`16:22.05`	`Phoul`	`Please somone tell me?`
`16:22.56`	`goldstein`	`there's one thing that worries me: if i upgrade to 2.6.15 will i be able to use ndiswrapper? because i only see ndiswrapper modules to 2.6.12...`
`16:22.59`	`Phoul`	`Anyone know how to get it running?`
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`16:23.18`	`Phoul`	`My icon box where my icons sit when i minimize them in e16 is gone and i dont know how to put it back`
`16:23.23`	`roxville`	`Phoul, also... if you kill engage and enable "ripples" from "special fx" in the right-click menu you can get some pretty cool effects! and VERY low on cpu usage :)`
`16:24.13`	`Phoul`	`I really would like my icon box back`
`16:24.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`goldstein the driver for ndiswrapper exist for 2.6.15`
`16:24.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`is not in the list ?`
`16:24.49`	`goldstein`	`no`
`16:25.13`	`goldstein`	`but if you say it, i believe:)`
`16:25.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/HowtoInstallKernel#ThebarisopenChoiceyourbetterflavourhellip`
`16:25.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`is in the list`
`16:25.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`goldstein you need the branch "tests"`
`16:25.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`make a look in the "trac"`
`16:25.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`site*`
`16:26.01`	`Phoul`	`anyone know`
`16:26.06`	`Phoul`	`I really want my iconbox back`
`16:26.22`	`goldstein`	`Phoul, whats the problem again?`
`16:26.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`Phoul you can posible to restore all your e16 config "default of elive" via elpanel`
`16:26.32`	`goldstein`	`Thanatermesis, i cannot open your site:/`
`16:26.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`Phoul middle button, search "create iconbox"`
`16:26.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`goldstein http://thana.no-ip.org/trac`
`16:26.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`no ?`
`16:27.06`	`goldstein`	`no`
`16:27.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`any person can be posible to enter in this site ?`
`16:27.30`	`goldstein`	`i used gentoo and compiled the kernel sometimes, but know i'm really forgotten and lazy`
`16:27.31`	`goldstein`	`lol`
`16:27.50`	`Phoul`	`where can i put e16 back to default?`
`16:27.51`	`roxville`	`Phoul, middle-click -> desktop->create new iconbox`
`16:28.05`	`goldstein`	`Thanatermesis, its ok now!`
`16:28.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Advanced <--- kernel doc`
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`16:29.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville aparently not has very volonteers for translate it from spanish to english.. what do you think about use the result of "apt" ?`
`16:29.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`transaltion of apt`
`16:29.34`	`Phoul`	`Thanatermesis, how do i revert back to basic e16 settings for elive`
`16:29.40`	`Phoul`	`Or well not basic but default`
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`16:30.29`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, not sure dude... try it, i guess... but you may get some not wanted results :)`
`16:31.06`	`Phoul`	`roxville, do you know how to set it back to default?`
`16:31.11`	`roxville`	`yes`
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`16:31.20`	`Phoul`	`e16 only tho`
`16:31.22`	`Phoul`	`Is it possible?`
`16:31.40`	`roxville`	`Phoul, exit from e16 into console and type elive-skel upgrade`
`16:31.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`Phoul default of Elive, yes, search in elpanel... "default user configuratiosn"`
`16:31.59`	`Phoul`	`elive-skel upgradE?`
`16:32.00`	`roxville`	`you'll get a list of options... choose e16 or enlightenment`
`16:32.04`	`roxville`	`hmmm...`
`16:32.18`	`roxville`	`make sure you type the period too!`
`16:32.44`	`Phoul`	`Thanatermesis, do you know where in elpanel that is because im lookin but i dont see it`
`16:33.24`	`Phoul`	`mmm i will brb`
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`16:34.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/User`
`16:34.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`more documentation`
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`16:34.49`	`Phoul`	`fixed`
`16:34.50`	`Phoul`	`:)`
`16:34.52`	`Phoul`	`Thanks`
`16:35.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`Phoul elpanel is just in the dock`
`16:35.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`or launch it`
`16:35.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`"elpanel" :)`
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`16:37.17`	`goldstein`	`i love apt-get..`
`16:38.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`16:38.27`	`roxville`	`apt-get loves you :)`
`16:39.00`	`revdjenk`	`apt don't get revdjenk`
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`16:39.06`	`roxville`	`LOL`
`16:39.20`	`revdjenk`	`hey everyone`
`16:39.32`	`roxville`	`apt, hug revdjenk`
`16:39.33`	`apt`	`ACTION hugs revdjenk`
`16:39.33`	`get_pc02`	`printer rooly`
`16:39.37`	`get_pc02`	`printer roolz`
`16:39.37`	`get_pc02`	`:D`
`16:39.46`	`get_pc02`	`Thanatermesis,`
`16:39.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`nice! :)`
`16:39.51`	`revdjenk`	`I am wifi in e16 and Thana's .15 kernel again`
`16:39.52`	`get_pc02`	`apt dance Thanatermesis`
`16:39.53`	`apt`	`Thanatermesis, dance with me! Ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' Elive, stayin' Elive`
`16:40.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`good revdjenk :)`
`16:40.09`	`roxville`	`revdjenk, AWESOME!`
`16:40.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`16:40.25`	`revdjenk`	`just no audio...but I can live with that... for a while`
`16:40.53`	`revdjenk`	`I think that is the tradeoff for the wifi`
`16:41.07`	`revdjenk`	`as soon as I configured wifi...audio quit`
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`16:42.06`	`revdjenk`	`get_pc02, fun apt response!!`
`16:42.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`revdjenk cat /proc/interrupts`
`16:42.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`look if your wifi and audio uses the same IRQ (first column)`
`16:42.38`	`get_pc02`	`Thanatermesis, en el wiki haz q incluir q el server.conf de cups viene por defecto mu limitado pero sino yasta tdos`
`16:42.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`get_pc02 si viene muy limitado.. hagamoslo mejor :)`
`16:43.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`get_pc02 esa doc que te pasé es la correcta ?`
`16:43.08`	`get_pc02`	`sep`
`16:43.11`	`get_pc02`	`es correctaq`
`16:43.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, dame un segundo pues...`
`16:43.17`	`get_pc02`	`aconsejo reboot`
`16:43.26`	`get_pc02`	`despues de editar los cups.conf`
`16:43.45`	`get_pc02`	`pero za el elpanel printer manager te detecta los cambios efectuados`
`16:43.49`	`revdjenk`	`http://pastebin.com/621796`
`16:45.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`don't looks this`
`16:45.41`	`revdjenk`	`Thanatermesis, you can see in the pastebin above...they are separate IRQ`
`16:45.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`revdjenk what happens if you reconfigure your audio with your wifi running ?`
`16:46.17`	`revdjenk`	`I have tried through elpanel...and once done...nothing.`
`16:46.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`try "alsaconf" from root`
`16:47.13`	`revdjenk`	`yes, I've done this before, but re-running`
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`16:47.56`	`revdjenk`	`do you want to modify /etc/modprobe.d/sound etc..?`
`16:48.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes to all`
`16:48.57`	`revdjenk`	`opened elpanel...not greeted with rox's sounds`
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`16:52.57`	`roxville`	`ok, i'm out for a bit!`
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`17:00.29`	`revdjenk`	`[FRICK], greetings...what part of the uk are you?`
`17:02.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`17:02.21`	`revdjenk`	`oh well...`
`17:03.09`	`revdjenk`	`well Thanatermesis ... I need to finish my sermon! G' day to you!!!`
`17:03.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`sermon ? heh`
`17:03.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`good day revdjenk`
`17:03.42`	`revdjenk`	`apt x en es sermon`
`17:03.52`	`revdjenk`	`ha ha`
`17:04.56`	`revdjenk`	`that's what I thought, just take an English word; add an accent; and voila...Spanish`
`17:05.18`	`revdjenk`	`:)`
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`17:07.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe`
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`19:23.38`	`Elive_user`	`hola alguien habla españok?`
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`19:29.24`	`zoombie`	`hola`
`19:29.33`	`Smjor`	`hola:-)`
`19:29.50`	`zoombie_`	`q tal`
`19:30.19`	`Smjor`	`apt es en q tal`
`19:30.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt wenas`
`19:30.39`	`apt`	`[wenas] Spanish term for someone who likes to stuff small rodents and tomatoes up their rectum.`
`19:30.53`	`Smjor`	`lol`
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`19:37.11`	`Smjor`	`Thanatermesis, I'm stuck on a ubuntu machine. Whats the url for elive essence`
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`19:40.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`i don't know it from memoty`
`19:40.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`memory`
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`19:44.49`	`Elive_user81`	`bonjour`
`19:45.08`	`Elive_user81`	`suis tout nouveau... ça fait 5 minutes à peine !!!`
`19:45.16`	`Elive_user81`	`je trouve ça beau... bel et bon`
`19:45.33`	`Elive_user81`	`mais pour tester plus, je voudrais installer elive 0.4.2 sur le disque dur`
`19:46.09`	`Elive_user81`	`malhuereusement il ne trouve pas mes partitions sur mes disque dur sata... c d'autant plus dommage que j'ai déjà des partition ext2 et swap prête...`
`19:46.23`	`Elive_user81`	`heu ? personne ne parle ?`
`19:46.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`aah.. toi t'e l'ami de pr0t0cod7, non ?`
`19:46.36`	`Elive_user81`	`pourkoi ?`
`19:46.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`parce que il me demandait justement pour ça pour un ami`
`19:47.04`	`Elive_user81`	`bah non, mais si tu sais ;)`
`19:47.40`	`Elive_user81`	`pourtant je dis bien que j ai des disque sata...`
`19:48.12`	`Elive_user81`	`il ne me trouve que mon disque dur externe usb (sda1), en ntfs...`
`19:48.24`	`Elive_user81`	`c trop ballot !!`
`19:48.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`c'est le kenrel`
`19:48.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`tu sait rien faire sur cette version`
`19:48.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`faudra atendre la release de 0.5`
`19:49.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`desolée mais.. pas vraiment posible :/`
`19:49.06`	`Elive_user81`	`bon tant pis`
`19:49.17`	`Elive_user81`	`je la garde comme une belle distrib livecd...`
`19:49.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`de toute maniere`
`19:49.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`comme liveCD tu peut arriver a faire presque les memes choses que installée ;)`
`19:49.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`tu peut meme installer n'importe quelle programme`
`19:50.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`ou compiler un truc et le installer sur le systeme`
`19:50.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui.. dans le mode liveCD`
`19:50.14`	`Elive_user81`	`oui, mais tant qu'à faire... j aurais aimé gagné un peu de vitesse et pouvoir sauvegarder !!`
`19:50.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`je conait un ami qui le avait utilisée pedant 2 mois (il rebootait pas le ordi)`
`19:50.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui, je sait :/`
`19:50.55`	`Elive_user81`	`au fait, il sait écrireet lire le ntfs ??`
`19:51.03`	`Elive_user81`	`parce que j'ai pas l'impression !!`
`19:51.28`	`Elive_user81`	`avec evidence je ne lis rien dans le sda1 !`
`19:52.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`<Elive_user81> au fait, il sait écrireet lire le ntfs ??`
`19:52.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`non`
`19:52.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`suivante version aussi, hehe`
`19:52.35`	`Elive_user81`	`bon... arf !!!`
`19:52.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`dans le kenrel de la suivante version (2.6.15) il i a un support de ecriture NTFS totalment re-ecrit de 0`
`19:52.54`	`Elive_user81`	`connaitrai tu une distrib qui sache gérer le sata, le ntfs (lecture/écriture)`
`19:53.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`ben.. une debian`
`19:53.19`	`Elive_user81`	`j'ai insatllé la fedora core 5... mais c trop merdique !! (pi c pas beau !)`
`19:53.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`et Elive aussi`
`19:53.30`	`Elive_user81`	`ben non, pas Elive ! justement`
`19:53.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`il faudrait juste le installer et lui changeer de kernel`
`19:53.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`le probleme c'est que pour le installer tu a besoin de ecrire dans le disque dure, hehe`
`19:53.47`	`Elive_user81`	`oui mais pour l installer, faut qu'elle reconnaisse sata !!`
`19:53.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`si tu veux`
`19:54.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`j'ai une version de 150 Mb pour developeement`
`19:54.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`pour la suivante version`
`19:54.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`il i RIEN`
`19:54.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`pas de e17`
`19:54.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`cest just de developement`
`19:54.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`pour voire si tu ça marche bien`
`19:54.28`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt :'(`
`19:54.34`	`Elive_user81`	`mais qu'en ferais je ?`
`19:54.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`si tu veux le tester, pour voire si il reconait ton disque dure...`
`19:54.48`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: tu vois..`
`19:54.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`comme ça tu et sure que la suivante version poura lire ton disque ;)`
`19:55.02`	`Elive_user81`	`ne pourrais je pas recompiler le noyau avec la live ?`
`19:55.10`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt olive`
`19:55.21`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt: ?`
`19:56.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt hello`
`19:56.02`	`apt`	`privet`
`19:56.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`19:56.13`	`Elive_user81`	`ave cla gentoo on fait emerge ....`
`19:56.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`<Elive_user81> ne pourrais je pas recompiler le noyau avec la live ?`
`19:56.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`si`
`19:56.22`	`Elive_user81`	`ave cune debian pour installer on fait quoi ?`
`19:56.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`tu saurait meme le installer`
`19:56.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`mais le probleme c'est que tu sait pas ecrire dans ton disque dure`
`19:56.42`	`Elive_user81`	`mais pas besoin de rebooter pour changer de noyau ?`
`19:56.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`et bien sure, pour utiliser un autre kernel... faut rebooter`
`19:56.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`alors, on tourne en rond`
`19:56.57`	`Elive_user81`	`ah oui c ça...`
`19:57.00`	`Elive_user81`	`lol`
`19:57.14`	`Elive_user81`	`bon`
`19:57.18`	`Elive_user81`	`tant pire !`
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`19:57.51`	`Elive_user81`	`je vaosi faire un tour su mon XP, charger une debian récente qui gère le sata, et je lui colle E17...`
`19:58.16`	`Muta`	`salut!`
`19:58.43`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt sucker`
`19:58.48`	`Muta`	`e17 est un grande distro!`
`19:58.56`	`Muta`	`elive`
`19:59.01`	`pr0t0cod7`	`xD`
`19:59.26`	`Elive_user81`	`dite quelle version de la debian (tout court) dois je installer pour la reconnaissance des disque durs sata ?`
`19:59.57`	`pr0t0cod7`	`nimporte laquelle avec un noyau 2.6`
`20:00.04`	`Elive_user81`	`ok`
`20:00.04`	`pr0t0cod7`	`je pense`
`20:00.13`	`pr0t0cod7`	`mais il faut le mettre au boot`
`20:00.15`	`Elive_user81`	`ya des debian pour amd64 ?`
`20:00.15`	`Muta`	`je ne sais pas =/`
`20:00.21`	`pr0t0cod7`	`sinon il boot en 2.4..`
`20:00.29`	`Muta`	`oiu!! <Elive_user81>`
`20:00.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`versions "etch/testing/sid/unstable", n'importe`
`20:00.38`	`Muta`	`oui`
`20:00.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`pas la "stable/sarge"`
`20:00.45`	`pr0t0cod7`	`si`
`20:00.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`je croix pas quil aurait le support`
`20:00.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`20:00.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`attend`
`20:00.50`	`Muta`	`apt time-to`
`20:00.51`	`apt`	`time-to is, like, its HAMBRITA TIME!!!`
`20:00.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user81`
`20:00.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`essaye de installer elvie`
`20:00.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive`
`20:01.12`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Linux Chimay 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux`
`20:01.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`c'est DANS le installeur qui charge tes modules de SATA`
`20:01.18`	`pr0t0cod7`	`ca c'est mon kernel sarge`
`20:01.32`	`Elive_user81`	`ok pr0t0cod7 et tu as des disque sata ?`
`20:01.36`	`pr0t0cod7`	`non`
`20:01.42`	`Elive_user81`	`ok`
`20:01.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user81 li ce que je viens de te dire`
`20:01.48`	`pr0t0cod7`	`c'est juste pour la version de kernel de sarge que je disais ca`
`20:01.55`	`pr0t0cod7`	`2.6.8`
`20:02.07`	`Elive_user81`	`Thanatermesis ça marche pas, il ne reconnait pas mes disque sata, même en lui demandant!`
`20:02.12`	`Elive_user81`	`ok pr0t0cod7`
`20:02.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user81 apres de lancer le installeur ?`
`20:03.33`	`Elive_user81`	`oui, je clique sur installer (j ai essayer sous E17 et sous E16), j active la détection des sata... et walou, rien`
`20:03.56`	`Elive_user81`	`il ne détecte que mon disque dur externe (sda1) en ntfs`
`20:04.19`	`Elive_user81`	`qtparter ne voit qu'un disque donc (externe) et pas mes deux sata interne`
`20:05.47`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt mitnick`
`20:05.49`	`apt`	`rumour has it, mitnick is the guy who got locked up in jail for h4x0ring some puters, or a script kiddie`
`20:06.05`	`Muta`	`bye`
`20:06.08`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt h4x0ring`
`20:06.13`	`pr0t0cod7`	`xD`
`20:07.29`	`Elive_user81`	`on peut graveru une iso ?`
`20:08.25`	`Elive_user81`	`heu ya pas de logiciel de gravure ??`
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`20:43.11`	`ubushine`	`hey folks -- trying to install elive. does it normally take hours?`
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`20:44.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`if you don't have select "cancel" in the question for the slow instalaltion, yes`
`20:45.54`	`ubushine`	`hi Thanatermesis, yes i chose the 'slow' installation because the installer said the 'quick' was was not very tested`
`20:46.24`	`ubushine`	`it's been about 1 hour and it seems only 1/4 of the way through`
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`20:50.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`i don't have look any person to has any problem with the fast mode :)`
`20:51.17`	`ubushine`	`Thanatermesis, well i may as well wait now that it's installing rather than stop it. but i must tell you that it's a fantastic live cd. lovely work you've done on elive. thank you`
`20:51.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`thanks :)`
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`21:18.49`	`piper_`	`Hi all`
`21:19.08`	`piper_`	`Thanatermesis, how are you?`
`21:27.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`good piper_ :)`
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`21:47.34`	`o[WildChild]o`	`apt x es fr ropa`
`21:48.43`	`o[WildChild]o`	`apt x fr es finissant`
`21:49.23`	`o[WildChild]o`	`apt x fr es c'est pour ca`
`21:50.11`	`o[WildChild]o`	`apt x fr es outré`
`22:02.29`	`Nenillo`	`apt start dance`
`22:02.37`	`Nenillo`	`apt dance`
`22:02.39`	`apt`	`rumour has it, dance is ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' elive, stayin' elive..`
`22:04.47`	`*** join/#elive goldstein (n=nuno@a213-22-152-234.cpe.netcabo.pt)`
`22:05.49`	`goldstein`	`i upgraded to the .15 kernel, but now i cannot install the nvidia driver`
`22:06.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`you have added the line "tests" to the sources.list ?`
`22:06.15`	`goldstein`	`says that cant find the kernel-source, although i installed it...`
`22:06.19`	`goldstein`	`yes`
`22:06.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6.15`
`22:06.35`	`goldstein`	`and ndiswrapper is working good:)`
`22:06.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`nice :)`
`22:06.57`	`goldstein`	`i think i-ve done it thana, but let me check again`
`22:06.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`i add this to the trac ;)`
`22:07.08`	`goldstein`	`oh, and this thing boots faster, it seems!`
`22:07.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/HowtoInstallKernel <--- you are famous !`
`22:07.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`22:07.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`2.6.15 ? yeah :)`
`22:08.25`	`goldstein`	`ok, i hadnt installed nvidia-kernel`
`22:08.26`	`goldstein`	`lol`
`22:09.04`	`goldstein`	`in text mode my keyboard is mapped for english. i can work with it but sometimes i dont know where the hell are the keys..`
`22:10.15`	`goldstein`	`hum..still doesnt work:(`
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`22:11.54`	`Elive_user43`	`re`
`22:11.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`goldstein dpkg-reconfigure console-data`
`22:12.27`	`Elive_user43`	`je pense réussir a faire reconnaitre mes disque durs sata`
`22:12.43`	`Elive_user43`	`je suis allé dans les modules du kernel config`
`22:12.56`	`Elive_user43`	`j ai mis sata_nv -nforc pour moi)`
`22:13.00`	`goldstein`	`thx`
`22:13.03`	`Elive_user43`	`ils sont reconnus`
`22:14.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`et tu sait lire le disque dure ?`
`22:14.58`	`Elive_user43`	`je tente l install`
`22:16.22`	`Elive_user43`	`aparemment non je ne peux pas lire mes partoches en ntfs`
`22:16.33`	`Elive_user43`	`mais il faut les monter peut être ?`
`22:16.48`	`goldstein`	`keeps saying the source doesn't exist..`
`22:17.00`	`goldstein`	`bah..`
`22:18.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`goldstein what source ?`
`22:18.57`	`goldstein`	`Thanatermesis: after apt-get the kernel-source should i tar xfv it?`
`22:19.07`	`goldstein`	`i never done that before for nvidia..`
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`22:19.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O'`
`22:19.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`what kenrel source ?`
`22:19.56`	`goldstein`	`nvidia says it cannot compile the module because kernel-source tree could not be found`
`22:19.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`the driver exist for Elive`
`22:20.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`you don't need the kernel sources`
`22:20.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`what are you trying to compile ?`
`22:20.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`the module is compiled for Elive`
`22:20.33`	`goldstein`	`well, i was trying to compile the latest driver from the website`
`22:20.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`just "apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6.15`
`22:20.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`forget it`
`22:20.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is crappy, ugly`
`22:20.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is why exist the PACKAGES`
`22:21.06`	`goldstein`	`lol`
`22:21.13`	`goldstein`	`i always have done that:p`
`22:21.51`	`goldstein`	`well, ive installed that, so i am going to upgrade xorg.conf and see you, hopefully, in my sweet e16`
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`22:24.49`	`edeb`	`hi thana`
`22:25.17`	`edeb`	`can you say if the module spca5xx is i n elive 0.4.2`
`22:25.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`is added for the installed system`
`22:25.47`	`edeb`	`ok`
`22:26.06`	`edeb`	`i cant find with lsmod \| grep ...`
`22:26.50`	`sinplomo`	`edeb, modprobe spca5xx GRed=217 GBlue=300 GGreen=224 gamma=4`
`22:28.06`	`edeb`	`module not found`
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`22:28.24`	`Elive_user43`	`sinon trop fort elive... ça trouve mon autre pc sous xp dans mon rezo local, j accède à mes videos... en ce momnet c acdc ;)`
`22:28.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`edeb install it`
`22:28.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt-cache search spca5xx`
`22:28.59`	`edeb`	`i ll try`
`22:29.03`	`edeb`	`thx`
`22:30.05`	`Elive_user43`	`une question encore`
`22:30.50`	`Elive_user43`	`quand elive aura terminé son install sur le disque dur... on pourra choisir le bootloader, configurer le rezo etc etc`
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`22:34.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`ben.. oui`
`22:34.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`elpanel powa ;)`
`22:34.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt elpanel`
`22:34.10`	`apt`	`i heard elpanel is the powered center of control of Elive, where all the answers of your questions are, your hearth is prepaired for discover all features ? ;)`
`22:38.46`	`Elive_user43`	`bon je reboot.... croisons les doigts !!`
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`22:52.30`	`Gwildor`	`Thanatermesis, i am going to try to boot the Elive CD from HDD, ill let you know how it goes`
`22:54.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`cd from hd ?`
`22:58.22`	`Gwildor`	`yesh, extract the CD content, boot via grub, run as LIVE cd`
`22:58.53`	`Gwildor`	`"boot live CD, without burning CD-r"`
`22:59.16`	`Nenillo`	`weird`
`22:59.18`	`Nenillo`	`odd`
`22:59.21`	`Nenillo`	`freak`
`23:00.08`	`Gwildor`	`busted CD-rom...`
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`23:06.41`	`gnaunited`	`Thanatermesis?`
`23:07.29`	`GPLGeek`	`Howdy`
`23:07.39`	`gnaunited`	`"You are banned from #elive-dev" - When did that happen?`
`23:07.45`	`GPLGeek`	`A keg exploded today at work while I was in the walk-in`
`23:08.30`	`GPLGeek`	`gnaunited, It's a wildcard ban`
`23:08.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh, wait`
`23:08.37`	`GPLGeek`	`not you specific`
`23:08.40`	`gnaunited`	`I see how it is.`
`23:08.57`	`GPLGeek`	`join now`
`23:09.01`	`gnaunited`	`is this cause you dont want me selling trade secrets?`
`23:09.26`	`gnaunited`	`"Welcome to the Elive Developement channel, this channel is restricted for only invited people, you are in the V.I.P. of Elive :)"`
`23:09.30`	`gnaunited`	`I feel special`
`23:09.38`	`GPLGeek`	`we are trying to structure the community so people do not get confused.`
`23:10.26`	`Gwildor`	`do i sitll get to be the torrent guy?`
`23:11.48`	`GPLGeek`	`We are setting all of this up today. Exempts had to be set.`
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`23:15.42`	`GPLGeek`	`howdy rookmoot`
`23:15.55`	`rookmoot`	`hihi`
`23:15.57`	`rookmoot`	`fine`
`23:16.01`	`rookmoot`	`you?`
`23:16.52`	`GPLGeek`	`I got splashed head to toe with beer`
`23:16.57`	`GPLGeek`	`keg exploded at work`
`23:17.07`	`GPLGeek`	`A lot got in my mouth I tell you =)`
`23:17.24`	`rookmoot`	`:p`
`23:17.47`	`sinplomo`	`salut rookmoot !`
`23:17.55`	`sinplomo`	`ça va ?`
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`23:20.06`	`gnaunited`	`Well, I have to say, Firefox is better from a development standpoint. I am using Ajax for my crappy web instant messenger and it refreshes seamlessly. Except for IE. The smilies and other images "blink" when it refreshes, even when adding content to a <div>.`
`23:21.21`	`GPLGeek`	`gnaunited, it's their hacky js implimentation`
`23:21.29`	`GPLGeek`	`ms don't care about end users.`
`23:21.53`	`rookmoot`	`yeah sinplomo ;)`
`23:21.59`	`GPLGeek`	`When they can not conform to a standard that even hobby programmers can they make their own standards that use active x and proprietary software.`
`23:22.54`	`gnaunited`	`I can't wait till they dump IE and just package Firefox with M$`
`23:22.54`	`Gwildor`	`then charge you to be able to code for it`
`23:23.04`	`Gwildor`	`gnaunited, dont hold ur breath`
`23:23.13`	`Gwildor`	`gnaunited, thess they buy mozilla`
`23:23.36`	`gnaunited`	`That probably isn't too far off...`
`23:24.29`	`GPLGeek`	`gnaunited, IE7 is releasing and they already have drafts for IE9`
`23:24.38`	`o[WildChild]o`	`rookmoot, mootmoot!`
`23:24.38`	`GPLGeek`	`IE9 is a directx 10 browser`
`23:24.40`	`o[WildChild]o`	`tu dors pas ?`
`23:24.44`	`gnaunited`	`At least they plan ahead...`
`23:25.08`	`GPLGeek`	`plan ahead and fail`
`23:25.29`	`Gwildor`	`idk, i was reading that they plan to make IE conformant.......ish`
`23:25.31`	`gnaunited`	`The only bad thing about Firefox is that the Javascript Console posts CSS errors in it also, otherwise it is perfect.`
`23:26.16`	`gnaunited`	`That would be bad, because then the current JS would no longer work with IE. Make it 100% FF complient then have a user string of Mozilla something or other`
`23:26.34`	`gnaunited`	`And omit the IE part of it.`
`23:27.49`	`Gwildor`	`all the older shtuff would be there...jsut work better with stuff that it should`
`23:30.15`	`sinplomo`	`oh`
`23:30.20`	`sinplomo`	`TuxMeister !`
`23:30.22`	`sinplomo`	`no lo vi`
`23:30.24`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`23:31.06`	`GPLGeek`	`paople can get firefox for windows`
`23:31.10`	`GPLGeek`	`er people`
`23:31.15`	`GPLGeek`	`I use it at school and home`
`23:31.44`	`GPLGeek`	`and mac's safari conforms`
`23:32.23`	`gnaunited`	`Older computers can see a considerable amount of drag when it comes to opening FF, Whereas IE opens right up.`
`23:33.24`	`gnaunited`	`Does anyone know what the newest version of IE that can be installed on a W2K machine? Cause the image problem I described seems to be different from w2k to XP. Everything is working fine in XP, but wasn;t in W2K`
`23:33.46`	`Gwildor`	`all version besides IE7`
`23:33.52`	`Gwildor`	`IE7 wont isntall on 2k`
`23:33.56`	`Gwildor`	`reboot`
`23:34.29`	`gnaunited`	`Are there major differences between 6.0 and 6.0 sp2 when it comes to Javascript? Or it might have something to do with computer speed`
`23:35.09`	`gnaunited`	`Well, look at it this way. You know your computer is outdated when AOL no longer supports your operating system. (Win98)`
`23:35.20`	`GPLGeek`	`gnaunited, FF opens in half a second`
`23:35.25`	`GPLGeek`	`it takes longer`
`23:35.40`	`gnaunited`	`On your P4 1 gig ram and so forth`
`23:36.04`	`GPLGeek`	`nah this one's a 733mhz that I'm talking about`
`23:36.06`	`gnaunited`	`Not on a 500 mhz with 128 memory, which is standard with a lot of people`
`23:36.45`	`gnaunited`	`Every developer has a fast computer, with 0 exceptions. That is why most open source software only looks good on a fast computer`
`23:36.48`	`GPLGeek`	`to test set the homepage as blank and open`
`23:36.53`	`GPLGeek`	`to make sure it's not connection`
`23:37.12`	`gnaunited`	`Are we talking about a first start, say after a reboot?`
`23:37.21`	`gnaunited`	`Cause that is when it takes the longest`
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`23:45.54`	`bi_fi`	`hi`
`23:47.13`	`bi_fi`	`elive doesn't see my sata_HD when I run the installer`

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