| 00:02.55 | Papageno3_ | bodha: There is even it plug-in flash by défault, on this livecd ;) |
| 00:02.59 | goldstein | Lightning_ThB, és portugues? |
| 00:03.12 | bodha | Papageno3_: I saw it |
| 00:03.56 | Papageno3__ | bodha: your download is finish? |
| 00:04.11 | bodha | 20% |
| 00:04.18 | Papageno3__ | lol |
| 00:04.34 | bodha | I feel like in 56 k |
| 00:05.09 | Lightning_ThB | goldstein, brasileiro / Brazilian |
| 00:05.17 | Papageno3__ | bodha: bravely! |
| 00:05.18 | goldstein | ah ok |
| 00:05.32 | GPLGeek | I wish there was a rss feed that would show me a new word every day and how to conjugate it in spanish |
| 00:05.43 | bodha | Papageno3_: I' useless |
| 00:05.47 | roxville | looks like you finally found a pal, goldstein ... excapt me, of course... but i know... i don't count... |
| 00:05.48 | GPLGeek | so whenever I hit firefox button I learn another verb/noun/etc |
| 00:06.13 | goldstein | roxville, we're having a moment here.. |
| 00:06.42 | Lightning_ThB | GPLGeek, make a program that uses a spanish dictionary randomly ^^ |
| 00:07.19 | roxville | goldstein, hehe... |
| 00:08.03 | GPLGeek | I'm very busy lol |
| 00:08.11 | GPLGeek | I am sure I could just get the sql cross database |
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| 00:18.03 | Papageno3_ | good night everyone: it was a pleasure! With soon ! |
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| 02:36.56 | *** topic/#elive is Need Help? New official Documentation site for Elive: http://wiki.elivecd.org || Join the Elive community: http://wiki.elivecd.org/community (we need moderators and maintainers of this drupal site) || Check #e #e.fr #e.es #e.de #e.it Enlightenment channels || New Elive site's reformed |
| 02:50.56 | withoutclass | hello! |
| 02:52.54 | roxville_ | hello! |
| 02:56.01 | withoutclass | hi roxville_ |
| 02:59.22 | withoutclass | i have to say that elive has boosted my coding productivity immensely |
| 02:59.55 | withoutclass | so much easier when i can keep 4 terminals and a webpage open all in the same space and see everything i need |
| 03:05.06 | roxville_ | that's awesome ! |
| 03:05.13 | withoutclass | yea! |
| 03:05.38 | withoutclass | im in a good mood cuz i finished my homework so fast thank you elive! |
| 03:05.39 | withoutclass | xD |
| 03:05.51 | roxville_ | lol |
| 03:06.36 | withoutclass | i cant wait for e17 to actually get the truely transparent BG working, not just the elive theme BG all the time in urxvt |
| 03:06.58 | roxville_ | well... it is great... only thing slowing ya down is the xchat window... |
| 03:07.11 | withoutclass | naw, im just doing documentation now |
| 03:07.21 | withoutclass | plenty of room for xchat window |
| 03:07.32 | withoutclass | gaim window, gaim msg window, and one giant urxvt |
| 03:07.41 | roxville_ | yeah, that'll be cool to see how it'll work out |
| 03:07.51 | withoutclass | hopefully like e16 |
| 03:08.03 | withoutclass | :P |
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| 03:09.19 | roxville_ | yeah... hopefully |
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| 03:20.49 | roxville_ | so GPLGeek ... did they work? |
| 03:23.48 | roxville_ | jamen jävla FITTA!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:24.03 | withoutclass | if i knew what that meant, i would respond |
| 03:24.14 | withoutclass | in a more appropriate manner |
| 03:24.15 | roxville_ | lol |
| 03:24.32 | roxville_ | i was just getting frustrated with gimp... |
| 03:24.43 | withoutclass | oh |
| 03:25.00 | withoutclass | well then, beer break |
| 03:25.17 | roxville_ | i chose the wrong gray... and now i'm paying for it |
| 03:25.29 | withoutclass | :( |
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| 03:27.03 | roxville_ | it's ok... i'm more frustrated with me than gimp |
| 03:27.06 | roxville_ | :) |
| 03:27.16 | roxville_ | :] |
| 03:27.23 | withoutclass | *+* |
| 03:27.28 | withoutclass | wtf is that face? |
| 03:27.31 | roxville_ | lol |
| 03:27.36 | withoutclass | stupid looking |
| 03:27.47 | withoutclass | although, the new one i like is fangs |
| 03:27.48 | withoutclass | =F |
| 03:27.54 | roxville_ | looks really really drunk |
| 03:28.16 | roxville_ | yeah, that's pretty neat |
| 03:30.15 | withoutclass | =D |
| 03:34.06 | withoutclass | wooo all done |
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| 03:43.30 | followmearound | is there a deb-src repository for elive? I'd like to try recompiling the packages for ubuntu |
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| 03:47.59 | followmearound | ...? |
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| 03:56.24 | yawlright | silly rabit |
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| 04:13.05 | roxville | have a good night, ppl! |
| 04:13.40 | GPLGeek | roxville, lol some did |
| 04:13.47 | GPLGeek | games, if that's what your refering to |
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| 04:52.15 | followmearound | anything? does elive have a cvs repository? |
| 04:53.29 | LinuxNIT | i have not heard of one |
| 04:54.00 | followmearound | then how does development happen? |
| 04:54.00 | GPLGeek | followmearound, no |
| 04:54.18 | GPLGeek | elive is like a hybrid debian/elive |
| 04:54.20 | LinuxNIT | howdy GPLGeek |
| 04:54.24 | GPLGeek | hi |
| 04:55.04 | yawlright | followmearound, are you thinking of the window manager elive uses? |
| 04:55.04 | GPLGeek | many of the packages are just gotten from the debian servers. If we need to compile something we download the source and compile it and then package it. |
| 04:55.23 | GPLGeek | Enlightenment can be gotten from get-e.org |
| 04:55.35 | followmearound | I'd like to recompile the elive e17 debs for ubuntu .. since you guys already wrote build/rules scripts, I assume |
| 04:55.58 | GPLGeek | oh I don't have my rules script on me |
| 04:56.04 | GPLGeek | it's in one of my virtual machines |
| 04:56.09 | LinuxNIT | i thought ubuntu had somebody working on e17 already |
| 04:56.20 | GPLGeek | ya they did have a guy packaging nightly cvs |
| 04:56.22 | yawlright | ugh...just try elive...its way better than ubuntu |
| 04:56.23 | followmearound | I think it's dead |
| 04:56.30 | GPLGeek | and that guy sends me a lot of emails |
| 04:56.33 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 04:56.45 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:59.04 | yawlright | apt ubuntu |
| 04:59.06 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntu is has a lot of users because the lot of pornography: http://htmldesign.dk/mostwanted/img/Ubuntu_Josie_1_ed3_800.png http://www.theonelab.com/files/images/thumbnails/ubuntu-startup.jpg http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3843/18427557718e22857e9rb.jpg http://www.madebylane.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-babe.png Woooha ! Im go to ubuntu ... |
| 04:59.09 | GPLGeek | I could probably sell my time to ubuntu |
| 04:59.47 | LinuxNIT | hehehe |
| 04:59.52 | GPLGeek | since I get such a high *usually ignored* volume of emails or irc chats from them asking me how to put all of the good qualities of elive into ubuntu |
| 05:00.28 | GPLGeek | It's not that I dont want to help its just... ask thana... It's a lot... and a lot of the stuff is elive specific for a reason. you can't just copy/paste it lol.... |
| 05:00.32 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, you could just have a standard response |
| 05:00.43 | LinuxNIT | install elive |
| 05:00.52 | GPLGeek | I could |
| 05:01.10 | GPLGeek | I can use my little % kw plugin to act kinda as a bot |
| 05:01.24 | yawlright | heh....they will soon be converted |
| 05:01.24 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 05:02.56 | GPLGeek | followmearound, I'll have a server soon that will make nightly builds |
| 05:03.11 | GPLGeek | will build for deb/*buntu/elive |
| 05:03.32 | GPLGeek | problem is I have like no bandwidth and can not keep the server on all the time |
| 05:03.52 | GPLGeek | it was just going to do it, rsync it to whatever developers wanted it, and then shut off |
| 05:04.14 | LinuxNIT | heh GPLGeek im on dialup atm. talk about no bandwidth |
| 05:04.15 | yawlright | i am just waiting for the day when every distro realizes the folly of their follies and defaults their wm's to enlightenment |
| 05:04.25 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:05.13 | GPLGeek | yawlright, there is a lot other wm's can offer. |
| 05:05.27 | LinuxNIT | nooo |
| 05:05.38 | LinuxNIT | you mean E isnt perfect? |
| 05:05.43 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 05:05.44 | GPLGeek | You will start to see a change once e17 is mastered |
| 05:05.57 | yawlright | and elive will rule the world!!! mwaahahahaahaaaaaa |
| 05:06.19 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:06.37 | GPLGeek | Nope, it better not. I think that competition is the only driving force, but it does not have to be so volitile |
| 05:07.48 | GPLGeek | People are starting to respect our lightweight yet pleasing graphical system |
| 05:08.03 | GPLGeek | there is still a lot of work to do, that frankly other wms have better than us |
| 05:08.17 | followmearound | GPLGeek: I'm at a uni, I'll have decent bandwidth at least for a while ... any chance I can get access to your build scripts? |
| 05:08.26 | GPLGeek | better hardware/software managment etc... now Elpanel did amazing things for that but even that can be improved |
| 05:08.33 | followmearound | also, how do you build for multiple distros on one box? |
| 05:08.39 | followmearound | the whole issue is the libs it's built against |
| 05:08.56 | yawlright | true true |
| 05:08.58 | GPLGeek | My scripts are not avaliable right now as they are on a downed virtual machine |
| 05:09.06 | GPLGeek | I forgot to copy them or didnt have time |
| 05:09.22 | followmearound | sad, okay |
| 05:09.36 | followmearound | if it ever comes back, could you email me a copy? |
| 05:10.00 | GPLGeek | how about I just leave you a memo |
| 05:10.54 | followmearound | sounds good, thanks |
| 05:10.56 | yawlright | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.20 | GPLGeek | why dont you just go to google and download a ubuntu specific solution |
| 05:11.31 | GPLGeek | those files exist on the web |
| 05:11.39 | GPLGeek | it would be faster |
| 05:12.17 | yawlright | but elive is all set up, programs/eap files |
| 05:14.11 | followmearound | GPLGeek, because there isn't a current ubuntu build as far as I can tell |
| 05:14.38 | followmearound | and when I noticed how recent the elive debs were, I figured there'd be an automated build script to do it |
| 05:16.03 | GPLGeek | http://edevelop.org/~nomed/bzr/e17-ubuntu/pbuilder/ |
| 05:16.28 | nomed | GPLGeek, ahhh |
| 05:16.39 | nomed | that doesn't support yet cross compilation |
| 05:16.44 | GPLGeek | oh |
| 05:16.52 | GPLGeek | well isnt that the buntu version |
| 05:16.52 | nomed | you 'll need to set up the correct environment |
| 05:17.04 | nomed | GPLGeek, not really ... |
| 05:17.19 | nomed | it's still an debuntu |
| 05:17.21 | nomed | :) |
| 05:17.29 | nomed | you can use it for debian too |
| 05:17.33 | GPLGeek | ahh |
| 05:17.37 | GPLGeek | just set up your libs and stuff |
| 05:17.44 | nomed | but i'm even still fixing pkges ... |
| 05:17.56 | nomed | GPLGeek, it generates all the e17 debs |
| 05:18.00 | nomed | from cvs |
| 05:18.09 | GPLGeek | ya |
| 05:18.20 | nomed | but to compile them for ppc on x86 |
| 05:18.29 | nomed | you'll need to set up the correct environment |
| 05:18.39 | GPLGeek | I wont need to do that personally |
| 05:18.42 | GPLGeek | but it would be nice to |
| 05:18.53 | nomed | GPLGeek, so i misunderstood :) |
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| 06:56.32 | GPLGeek | good night |
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| 07:16.30 | wurzin | Hello. |
| 07:17.17 | wurzin | I've written a simple epplet for e16. To whom do I give it? |
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| 07:32.40 | dats | hello |
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| 09:55.23 | goldstein | !xithoz Snort for Dummies~(Wiley;2004).pdf.zip |
| 09:56.12 | goldstein | hey |
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| 12:32.53 | bodha | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:33.09 | bodha | dats: hello |
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| 12:51.11 | blixa | Hi - eap problems again - finally got it to create an icon for gnome-ppp in the ibar - but when I restart, the icon is gone - even thoughthere is a space and it is cliackabke - any ideas? |
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| 12:54.25 | bloxa | no one talking? |
| 12:54.43 | bodha | bloxa: hi |
| 12:54.57 | bloxa | hi |
| 12:57.45 | bloxa | anyone got gnome-ppp working? |
| 12:58.34 | bodha | nop |
| 12:59.02 | sinplomo | apt, e17 |
| 12:59.03 | apt | well, e17 is IN DEVELOPEMENT, and this is the same to NOT FINISHED, some parts works, and some parts not works, e17 not is prepaired for the end-user, if you continue like to use it is your problem, if you search a stable thing, use e16 |
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| 13:05.14 | Grumpy_joe | I'm having problems creating EAPs |
| 13:05.59 | Grumpy_joe | I start the editor, fill out everything, but then when I click ok, the program close, and apparently no EAP has been made |
| 13:18.00 | pycs | Grumpy_joe, it must be a *.png format :) |
| 13:18.26 | pycs | the icon image, i mean.. |
| 13:22.39 | sinplomo | Grumpy_joe, e_util_thing_stable |
| 13:27.14 | Grumpy_joe | well, it is |
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| 13:32.11 | Grumpy_joe | thanks sinplomo |
| 13:32.14 | Grumpy_joe | it works now |
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| 13:50.14 | Elive_user | hola |
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| 14:35.55 | goldstein | does elive run any proxy or firewall by default? |
| 14:53.01 | withoutclass | goldstein, naw |
| 14:53.10 | withoutclass | goldstein, you can dl a firewall though if you want |
| 14:56.22 | sinplomo | goldstein, iptables ... |
| 14:56.41 | sinplomo | you have to configure it of course |
| 14:58.23 | goldstein | i ask because we re in a private network playing with snort |
| 14:58.57 | goldstein | and nobody sees me, but i can see everyone (even read msn chats:p from the ppl with windows) |
| 14:59.22 | goldstein | but my computer just isn't logged anywhere else |
| 14:59.32 | goldstein | only when i run snort myself |
| 14:59.50 | goldstein | hi Thanatermesis , long time no see |
| 15:03.07 | goldstein | i also don´t understand why snort is able to see the gmail site, and i can read the subjects etc, if someone opens it on windows, but not in linux |
| 15:03.24 | withoutclass | linux is super secure |
| 15:03.26 | withoutclass | xD |
| 15:03.36 | withoutclass | actually |
| 15:03.41 | withoutclass | i think i suffer from the same thing |
| 15:03.46 | rookmoot | someone have seen fred ? |
| 15:03.49 | withoutclass | just slightly different |
| 15:04.22 | withoutclass | goldstein, when my friend runs nmap on me(we are over a network) my computer will show, but all of the ports on my system appear as filtered, not open |
| 15:05.20 | goldstein | "suffer"eheh |
| 15:05.47 | goldstein | i just dont appear anywhere, unless i run snort myself |
| 15:06.06 | goldstein | the other guys in linux aren't so "invisible" |
| 15:06.10 | withoutclass | i can nmap myself and get my ports as open |
| 15:06.36 | withoutclass | goldstein, is it bad to be invisible? and still be able to read everything from everyone? :P |
| 15:06.48 | withoutclass | you a ghost |
| 15:07.02 | goldstein | no, not at all, i am just trying to understand |
| 15:07.11 | withoutclass | i wish i understood : \ |
| 15:07.37 | goldstein | its pretty cool nobody sees my emails or messaging as i can see them |
| 15:07.39 | goldstein | lol |
| 15:07.56 | withoutclass | exactly |
| 15:08.08 | withoutclass | you just created the secret security computer for your network |
| 15:08.10 | withoutclass | time for a pay raise |
| 15:08.19 | withoutclass | =D |
| 15:08.29 | goldstein | yeah right.. i´m a student:/ |
| 15:08.37 | withoutclass | :P |
| 15:08.42 | withoutclass | ima student too |
| 15:09.00 | withoutclass | go to your school and be like "my computer is invisible on your network, pay me" |
| 15:09.14 | withoutclass | "i just found a security hole" |
| 15:09.56 | goldstein | yes, i am going to sell them my computer for millions so they can watch porno more safe |
| 15:09.57 | goldstein | lol |
| 15:11.09 | withoutclass | yes |
| 15:11.12 | withoutclass | exactly |
| 15:11.28 | withoutclass | goldstein, now all you gotta do is set up tor on their, and they will think you are from germany |
| 15:11.34 | withoutclass | there* |
| 15:12.01 | withoutclass | i was playing with tor yesterday and opened up german google |
| 15:12.07 | withoutclass | lol |
| 15:13.35 | goldstein | lol |
| 15:14.07 | withoutclass | they will think "why is this strange IP from germany playing around inside our network" |
| 15:14.24 | goldstein | well..i want to know what does elive have that mandriva, fedora core 4, centos and macOSx don |
| 15:14.25 | goldstein | :p |
| 15:14.54 | goldstein | not to talk about win |
| 15:15.28 | withoutclass | enlightenment |
| 15:15.32 | withoutclass | =D |
| 15:16.07 | goldstein | eheh... i that would be called eSecurity |
| 15:16.24 | withoutclass | :P |
| 15:16.45 | withoutclass | goldstein, college? |
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| 15:17.56 | Thanatermesis | o/ goldstein |
| 15:18.36 | goldstein | yes withoutclass |
| 15:18.42 | withoutclass | cool |
| 15:19.30 | goldstein | we re doing a project in nids with dedicated hardware,thats why i´m learning snort now |
| 15:19.48 | withoutclass | ic |
| 15:19.50 | goldstein | Thanatermesis, what is o/ |
| 15:20.11 | Thanatermesis | o <--- head, / <--- hand, = hello |
| 15:20.11 | withoutclass | maybe it is like ping pong |
| 15:20.17 | withoutclass | ooo |
| 15:20.26 | withoutclass | i see it |
| 15:20.31 | goldstein | ok :)i see it now |
| 15:21.19 | Thanatermesis | or more easy... \o/ |
| 15:21.46 | withoutclass | this is more like a hurray picture |
| 15:21.47 | withoutclass | both in air |
| 15:21.49 | goldstein | so Thanatermesis, did you paint elive with invisible paint or something? |
| 15:22.39 | Thanatermesis | what ? o_O |
| 15:23.08 | Thanatermesis | \ö/ (hair version for withoutclass ) |
| 15:23.13 | withoutclass | xD |
| 15:24.07 | goldstein | \#/ -- my big hair |
| 15:24.17 | withoutclass | hmm |
| 15:24.42 | goldstein | !jakath Snort For Dummies (Wiley, 2004) [pdf].rar |
| 15:24.44 | goldstein | ops.. |
| 15:24.53 | goldstein | wrong window:p |
| 15:26.14 | Thanatermesis | goldstein "invisible paint" ? |
| 15:27.42 | goldstein | Thanatermesis, i was talking about snort with withoutclass. i was telling im that i am invisible in this private network, but other linuxs here are not |
| 15:28.16 | withoutclass | arg i need to leave |
| 15:28.17 | withoutclass | ttyl |
| 15:28.33 | Thanatermesis | some wireless cards don't support "spy" mode |
| 15:29.16 | goldstein | hum.... maybe is that.. |
| 15:29.32 | goldstein | later i ll try with cable.. |
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| 15:31.55 | goldstein | my wireless card is cool then:p |
| 15:33.08 | Thanatermesis | 8Question: What kind of programs the users install on Elive from the repositories to not are included on Elive by default ? (for example k3b) |
| 15:33.49 | goldstein | amarok, konqueror (but dont include this one:p) |
| 15:34.16 | goldstein | i tryied to install vlc, but no sucess with gui |
| 15:34.30 | goldstein | evince |
| 15:34.59 | goldstein | not much, indeed |
| 15:35.54 | roxville | gold Thanatermesis is probably thinking about having some extra eapps installed... so if the app is installed, we can delay the painful process of learning how to make eapps a little :) |
| 15:36.15 | Elive_user3 | i installed thunderbird |
| 15:36.24 | roxville | goldstein, Thanatermesis is probably thinking about having some extra eapps installed... so if the app is installed, we can delay the painful process of learning how to make eapps a little :) |
| 15:36.26 | quidam- | i installed hunderbird too :P |
| 15:36.31 | quidam- | thunderbird* |
| 15:36.35 | roxville | yeah, thunderbird is good |
| 15:36.39 | goldstein | :p |
| 15:37.24 | LinuxNIT | i also installed quake3 but i doubt that should be included hehe |
| 15:38.11 | goldstein | ndiswrapper kernel headers :) |
| 15:40.36 | LinuxNIT | i actually cant think of what else i had installed that i actually used |
| 15:41.34 | wasynyt | good afternoon everuone |
| 15:41.39 | wasynyt | *everyone |
| 15:41.41 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:41.44 | LinuxNIT | good afternoon |
| 15:41.47 | quidam- | elive have a great list of program installed :P |
| 15:42.02 | quidam- | wasynyt, still morning here :P |
| 15:42.06 | Thanatermesis | quidam- LinuxNIT , and your eap's of thunderbird works good ? i have hard with it... the window class of this application is very bad |
| 15:42.20 | wasynyt | quidam-, good morning |
| 15:42.31 | LinuxNIT | mine worked fine |
| 15:42.37 | LinuxNIT | oh wait |
| 15:42.40 | quidam- | Thanatermesis, do you have a deb package? thunderbird 1.5? |
| 15:42.58 | wasynyt | -> gotta go... see you later |
| 15:43.03 | LinuxNIT | never mind Thanatermesis i did not create a eap for it. |
| 15:43.03 | Thanatermesis | quidam- no... 1.0.7 |
| 15:43.20 | LinuxNIT | i stopped making eaps and just used key shortcuts |
| 15:43.23 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 15:43.26 | quidam- | Thanatermesis, 1.5 works fine :) |
| 15:43.32 | quidam- | i use 1.5 :P |
| 15:43.33 | LinuxNIT | was easier hehehe |
| 15:43.48 | Thanatermesis | quidam- better than 1.0.7 ? remember to we need to think about the compatibility ;) |
| 15:44.52 | goldstein | 1.5, yes |
| 15:44.59 | quidam- | Thanatermesis, 1.5 is a great version |
| 15:45.09 | quidam- | works fine |
| 15:45.14 | goldstein | never had any problem with it.. |
| 15:45.16 | Thanatermesis | ok... let me try it |
| 15:50.38 | LinuxNIT | Thanatermesis, i installed synaptic drivers onmy laptop and configured them in the xorg.conf. Theses are really really nice for laptops |
| 15:52.15 | LinuxNIT | i know it would be more worka than just installing cause it would have to detect if synaptic drivers could be used plus it would have to edit the xorg.conf file so i dont know if you are interested in that |
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| 15:56.45 | Thanatermesis | $ buscar-profundo synapt |
| 15:56.45 | Thanatermesis | 1/lista-get-selections-X11:14:xfree86-driver-synaptics |
| 15:56.48 | Thanatermesis | this driver LinuxNIT ? |
| 15:57.07 | LinuxNIT | yes Thanatermesis |
| 15:57.14 | Thanatermesis | included for the next release ;) |
| 15:57.20 | LinuxNIT | sweeet |
| 15:57.22 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 15:58.06 | LinuxNIT | :> |
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| 16:24.07 | Thanatermesis | quidam- in what is better 1.5 than 1.0.7 ? |
| 16:25.14 | quidam- | i use 1.5 and dont have any problem |
| 16:25.26 | Thanatermesis | yes but... |
| 16:25.29 | Thanatermesis | in what is better ? :) |
| 16:25.41 | quidam- | is more pretty xDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 16:25.47 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 16:25.54 | Thanatermesis | no... i don't think... looks very similar |
| 16:26.23 | quidam- | the bird is more pretty xD |
| 16:26.33 | Thanatermesis | not has bird in 1.5 lol |
| 16:26.43 | quidam- | and include more extensions |
| 16:26.48 | Thanatermesis | for example ? |
| 16:27.00 | quidam- | look in addons.mozilla.org |
| 16:27.10 | quidam- | have more extensions, like firefox |
| 16:27.14 | quidam- | is wow :P |
| 16:29.21 | Thanatermesis | :/ |
| 16:29.34 | Thanatermesis | no me convences mucho... xD |
| 16:30.25 | quidam- | pss si dices, elive include thunderbird 1.5 la gente seguro dira "ooooooooooh que bueno" |
| 16:30.26 | quidam- | xD |
| 16:31.15 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 16:31.15 | quidam- | modificaron ciertas cosas en su funcionamiento, y en las maquinas que antes se cerraba el thunderbird con esta version ya no |
| 16:31.34 | quidam- | y la coleccion de extensiones esta buena |
| 16:31.48 | quidam- | a mi me gusta mucho esta version |
| 16:32.05 | quidam- | aunque podriamos preguntar entre los presentes que tengan thunderbird ¿que version usan? |
| 16:32.06 | quidam- | xD |
| 16:35.49 | Thanatermesis | el problema no es ese... |
| 16:35.55 | Thanatermesis | es que yo me encuentro en una balanza |
| 16:36.31 | Thanatermesis | en la parte derecha tengo la posibilidad de meter thunderbird 1.0.7 y guardar total compatiblidad con debian etch para Elive, con sus correspondientes dependencias y conflictos |
| 16:36.46 | wasynyt | back |
| 16:37.03 | quidam- | Thanatermesis, yo estoy trabajando con etch tambien para ulanix |
| 16:37.14 | quidam- | y empaquete el 1.5 |
| 16:37.25 | quidam- | tanto de firefox como de thunderbird :P |
| 16:37.32 | quidam- | y funciona bien :D |
| 16:37.53 | Thanatermesis | por la parte izquierda tengo la posiblidad de meter thunderbird 1.5 con sus novedades, mas features y mas estable por un lado aunque quizas menos testeado por otro, pero quitando un poco de compatiblidad con debian y sus dependencias y tal (piensa que debo de meter paquetes de unstable aqui) |
| 16:38.03 | Thanatermesis | clar claro.. funciona bien... hasta que toquetées mucho xD |
| 16:39.13 | quidam- | hmmmmmm yo no he metido paquetes de unstable :S |
| 16:39.18 | Thanatermesis | quidam- mira un ejemplo |
| 16:39.24 | quidam- | he usado todo sin problemas :P |
| 16:39.30 | quidam- | aunque si te parece mejor idea |
| 16:39.34 | quidam- | usa el tar.gz |
| 16:39.38 | quidam- | crea unos enlaces |
| 16:39.47 | quidam- | y los iconos de e17 |
| 16:39.49 | Thanatermesis | prefiero hackear los paquetes de unstable ;) |
| 16:39.56 | Thanatermesis | es mas seguro y esta mas preparado para debian ;) |
| 16:40.12 | Thanatermesis | quidam- mira un ejemplo, te voy a quitar las ganas de instalar paquetes no oficiales xDDD |
| 16:40.17 | Thanatermesis | apt-cache rdepends firefox |
| 16:40.22 | Thanatermesis | ves toda esa lista ? |
| 16:40.29 | Thanatermesis | esa lista son paquetes que dependen de firefox... |
| 16:40.30 | Thanatermesis | es decir |
| 16:41.02 | Thanatermesis | si metes un firefox que NO es el de debian... y el usuario quiere instalar por cualquier razon uno de estos paquetes, dependerá de firefox... |
| 16:41.18 | Thanatermesis | que sucede aqui ? conflictos/bugs/dependencias_rotas etc etc etc |
| 16:41.34 | quidam- | seeee pero tu tienes la gran ventaja que posees un repo |
| 16:41.39 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 16:41.43 | quidam- | empaquetas el 1.5 |
| 16:41.56 | quidam- | y esos paquetes ya estan |
| 16:42.00 | quidam- | en unstable |
| 16:42.10 | Thanatermesis | claro claro... |
| 16:42.15 | quidam- | toqueteas el preferences de apt y listo :P |
| 16:42.22 | Thanatermesis | y como le digo a todos esos paqutes de dependan de MI firefox y no el de debian ? |
| 16:42.39 | quidam- | de lo dije una linea arriba xDDDDDDDD |
| 16:42.45 | Thanatermesis | que pasa cuando estas dependencias dependen de un paquete con nombre "firefox" y de version exacta a 1.0.7 ? |
| 16:43.15 | Thanatermesis | no... no es tan facil... claro que todo se puede hacer... pero hasta un cierto limite |
| 16:43.38 | Thanatermesis | voy a darte un ejemplo mas real... |
| 16:44.31 | quidam- | hmmm pues en todo caso haria falta un backport para elive |
| 16:44.35 | quidam- | con esos paquetes |
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| 16:44.39 | quidam- | pero todo es un juego de prioridades |
| 16:45.17 | quidam- | aunque si tienes un 1.5 instalado |
| 16:45.22 | quidam- | apt no tomara algo anterior |
| 16:45.39 | Thanatermesis | "mozilla-mplayer" depende de firefox, que pasa si NO depende de TU firefox ? que no se puede instalar... que hay que hacer ? modificar el mozilla-mplayer para que dependa de tu firefox... hasta aqui todo bien... pero ahora "quien" depende mozilla-mplayer ? en este ejemplo tienes la suerte que no creo que "nadie" dependa de un plugin extra... pero que pasa cuando miramos a otros paquetes de la lista como por ejemplo openoffice.org o toda |
| 16:45.39 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:46.54 | quidam- | pss algo que he notado es que los repos etch siempre estan en cambios constantes |
| 16:47.02 | quidam- | y los fallos por dependencias son grandes |
| 16:47.13 | quidam- | hace unos meses tenia skype |
| 16:47.15 | quidam- | ahora no |
| 16:47.18 | Thanatermesis | jajajaja, eso es cierto, le estan metiendo muchissima caña y buena a etch ;) |
| 16:47.22 | quidam- | porque actualizaron las librerias |
| 16:47.26 | Thanatermesis | no doy abasto por su culpa xD |
| 16:47.39 | Thanatermesis | lo que te quiero decir quidam- |
| 16:47.47 | quidam- | es un lio, pero tu tienes la ventaja de poseer repos propio |
| 16:47.50 | Thanatermesis | todo esto lo veras segun vayas probando y tal... |
| 16:47.55 | quidam- | asi que no te compliques mucho :P |
| 16:48.06 | quidam- | haz la prueba y veras :) |
| 16:48.31 | quidam- | yo aun no manejo un repo para ulanix, nisiquiera poseo un mirror debian cerca |
| 16:48.36 | Thanatermesis | pero lo que sucede aqui es que puedes tocar paquetes y cosas... pero contra MAS toques, MAS vas a necesitar tocar para conservar la compatiblidad total entre paquetes y dependencias y tal (ya no me refiero al funcionamiento del paquete) |
| 16:48.42 | quidam- | asi que tengo que pensar mucho en los paquetes xD |
| 16:48.50 | Thanatermesis | <quidam-> haz la prueba y veras :) |
| 16:48.51 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 16:48.56 | Thanatermesis | llevo haciendo pruebas desde.... |
| 16:49.10 | Thanatermesis | asdf@elive[/var/www/mirror]$ buscar deb | wc -l |
| 16:49.10 | Thanatermesis | 290 |
| 16:49.22 | Thanatermesis | mira cuantos paquetes tiene actualmente Elive, para que te hagas una idea xD |
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| 16:49.49 | quidam- | pues para cuando esperas soltar la prox elive? deja firefox y thunderbird entre los ultimos |
| 16:50.08 | quidam- | no creo que tarden mas de 3 meses en llegar a etch |
| 16:50.14 | Thanatermesis | firefox ya esta en 1.5 desde hace un tiempo en etch... y en Elive desde la version 0.4.2 |
| 16:50.23 | quidam- | cierto cierto |
| 16:50.26 | quidam- | lo tengo instalado |
| 16:50.27 | quidam- | xDDDDDDDDD |
| 16:50.35 | quidam- | bueno thunderbird |
| 16:50.39 | quidam- | no creo que tarde tanto |
| 16:50.49 | quidam- | para la prox version lo tendras sin problema |
| 16:51.05 | quidam- | porque creo que es cuestion de tiempo |
| 16:51.12 | Thanatermesis | en todo caso thunderbird no parece un paquete que de muchos problemas de paquete... es un programa bastante independiente |
| 16:51.22 | quidam- | exacto |
| 16:51.23 | Thanatermesis | y algo bueno que e visto es que te corrige la ortografia graficamente ;) |
| 16:51.31 | quidam- | seeeeee mu weno |
| 16:51.31 | quidam- | xD |
| 16:53.34 | quidam- | lo que aun no logro adaptar en etch |
| 16:53.41 | quidam- | son las libgphoto actualizadas |
| 16:54.00 | quidam- | aunque no se en que estoy fallando |
| 16:54.03 | quidam- | :P |
| 16:54.42 | Thanatermesis | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=src&data=thunderbird&archive=no&pend-exc=fixed&pend-exc=done&sev-inc=critical&sev-inc=grave&sev-inc=serious |
| 16:54.54 | Thanatermesis | bueno... creo que ese bug lo hackeo y arreglo en 1 minuto :) |
| 16:55.32 | quidam- | :P |
| 16:56.01 | Thanatermesis | y como lo estas haciendo ? de donde lo instalas ? |
| 16:56.24 | quidam- | pss creeme que me cuesta mogollon xD |
| 16:56.35 | quidam- | no tengo un repo para los paquetes |
| 16:56.45 | quidam- | asi que a veces trabajo con .deb y dpkg |
| 16:57.06 | quidam- | detuve el trabajo por unas semanas para crear un mirror local de debian |
| 16:57.09 | Thanatermesis | pues createlo :P |
| 16:57.23 | quidam- | pero no he podido subir a la oficina para montarlo |
| 16:57.40 | quidam- | tengo que instalar debian y todo eso alla en el pc |
| 16:57.43 | quidam- | porque tiene ubuntu |
| 16:57.44 | quidam- | xD |
| 16:57.54 | quidam- | asi que tendre que tomar tiempo para eso |
| 16:58.08 | quidam- | aunque hasta ahora las 2 primeras betas de ulanix funcionan bien |
| 16:58.26 | quidam- | y estoy preparando la 3ra beta que espero terminarla el domingo |
| 16:59.36 | quidam- | aunque no se si lo habras notado pero idefix se casca por ratos, asi que eso retrasa aun mas el trabajo xD |
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| 16:59.56 | Thanatermesis | bueno... creo que thunderbird 1.5 lo tendremos bien pronto en debian :) por el momento lo voy a meter en los repos de Elive con un mini-hack |
| 17:00.10 | quidam- | :P |
| 17:00.35 | Thanatermesis | si, idefix parece que se desconecta ultimamente los fines de semana :/ |
| 17:00.41 | quidam- | idefix lleva 1 hora petado :S |
| 17:00.48 | quidam- | te puedes conectar? |
| 17:01.03 | quidam- | aca no conecta :( |
| 17:01.27 | Thanatermesis | parece que no.. |
| 17:01.55 | Thanatermesis | vaya plan, voy a ver si contacto al responsable :P |
| 17:01.57 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 17:02.01 | quidam- | xDDDD |
| 17:02.49 | quidam- | por eso es que siempre trabajo en la madrugada |
| 17:02.59 | quidam- | es la unica hora en que idefix trabaja bien |
| 17:03.00 | quidam- | xDDDDDDDD |
| 17:03.02 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 17:04.32 | quidam- | creo que en la ciudad hay un mirror debian, pero no se hasta que punto lo mantienen actualizado |
| 17:05.20 | quidam- | hasta ahora uso idefix porque siempre esta perfecto, pero estos fallos en el servicio me estan volviendo loco x( |
| 17:05.28 | Thanatermesis | oye, sabes lo que es o para que es el "enigmail" ? |
| 17:05.38 | Thanatermesis | solo para darle el soporte de lo de las firmas gpg ? |
| 17:06.32 | quidam- | sep |
| 17:07.10 | quidam- | encriptar mensajes y desencriptar |
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| 17:59.30 | wasynyt | can i still say what apps i would like to see in elive |
| 18:06.24 | Thanatermesis | what ? |
| 18:08.03 | wasynyt | ah.. i noticed before that you were speaking about it.. here comes totem/kaffeine (if not allready there), amarok and konqueror (they all depend on kdelibs :( ) |
| 18:08.38 | wasynyt | i just dont like xmms :) |
| 18:08.39 | Thanatermesis | totem/kaffeine ? o_O for what this ? |
| 18:09.05 | wasynyt | totem and kaffeine are very similiar in function.. |
| 18:09.22 | Thanatermesis | what is better than mplayer ? |
| 18:09.35 | wasynyt | for somethings yes |
| 18:09.42 | Thanatermesis | mplayer is the better multimedia center ever made :) |
| 18:09.49 | wasynyt | true |
| 18:10.25 | wasynyt | it just doesnt do the trick for me.. i havent tried different themes thou.. |
| 18:10.51 | Thanatermesis | maybe anothers are more beautiful... but BETTER, is mplayer :) |
| 18:10.59 | Thanatermesis | (or gmplayer for the graphical interface) |
| 18:11.13 | Thanatermesis | do you have make a fast look to the contents of "man mplayer" ? ;) |
| 18:11.27 | Thanatermesis | is awesome the infinite lot of options :) |
| 18:12.16 | wasynyt | :S 6224 lines |
| 18:12.28 | Thanatermesis | hehehe |
| 18:12.32 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:12.44 | Thanatermesis | make just a look to the name of features (not need to read for what is all) ;) |
| 18:13.13 | wasynyt | hmm i could print it and sell it as a howto-book |
| 18:13.28 | Thanatermesis | you have all this in your bookmarks, better in html documentation ;) |
| 18:13.42 | wasynyt | could be |
| 18:13.45 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 18:13.55 | bouba_diop | hi. who colors the text in the terminal? can i change it? thanks |
| 18:14.12 | wasynyt | in elpanel ? |
| 18:14.42 | wasynyt | i think that those colors can be adjusted in elpanel.. there is section for terminal setup |
| 18:14.54 | bouba_diop | ah ok thanks:) |
| 18:15.18 | wasynyt | i think its under the one most left |
| 18:16.40 | bouba_diop | you are talking about "terminal manager"? |
| 18:16.51 | wasynyt | could be |
| 18:17.28 | bouba_diop | ummm...no colors... |
| 18:17.35 | wasynyt | :( |
| 18:18.31 | bouba_diop | because i would remove the green box |
| 18:18.38 | wasynyt | ? |
| 18:19.04 | wasynyt | what green box |
| 18:19.04 | Thanatermesis | <bouba_diop> hi. who colors the text in the terminal? can i change it? thanks |
| 18:19.10 | Thanatermesis | yes, because a upgrade of coreutils |
| 18:19.16 | Thanatermesis | is the new way of color files :) |
| 18:19.36 | wasynyt | thana comes to rescue :D |
| 18:19.37 | Thanatermesis | i know to it feels strange for now... but is just because we have look all the time the normal way :) |
| 18:19.42 | bouba_diop | nuuuuuuu i hate the green box:D |
| 18:20.03 | Thanatermesis | this way is more complete, and im sure to after 1 month we look it perfectly normal and better than the old mode "poor colors, poor info" |
| 18:20.42 | SteveMyers | agreed |
| 18:21.04 | Thanatermesis | bouba_diop its the new package of coreutils... we can't posible to change this, the only way is to install a Elive 0.4.2 and don't upgrade it (just install needed packages) |
| 18:21.54 | bouba_diop | ah... so in the future all texts will has a colored boxes? |
| 18:22.56 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 18:23.17 | Thanatermesis | its "a new feature", or the feature of colors better and more complete |
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| 18:25.35 | bouba_diop | i don't like it. i prefer only colored texts.... it's more clear and ordered :).patience.... ;) |
| 18:27.12 | goldstein | Thanatermesis, what r u talking about? |
| 18:27.28 | goldstein | what texts? |
| 18:27.53 | bouba_diop | in the console |
| 18:28.18 | Thanatermesis | goldstein open a console and start making a "ls" to diferents dirs |
| 18:29.03 | Thanatermesis | bouba_diop just becuase "its new for you" and feels diferent... maybe in 1 month you can't posible to retunr to the old mode ;) |
| 18:29.08 | goldstein | nothing different.. |
| 18:29.11 | Thanatermesis | bouba_diop green box = fully permissions ;) |
| 18:29.18 | Thanatermesis | is a good "fast extra info" :) |
| 18:29.22 | goldstein | i am upgrading coreutils.. |
| 18:29.54 | bouba_diop | ah, so if i enter as normal user should see the old color? |
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| 18:30.47 | kender | hello |
| 18:31.10 | Thanatermesis | bouba_diop its because the file has -rwxrwxrwx permissions and this color say "hey! this file is readable, executable and WRITABLE by all the users!, caution ;)" |
| 18:31.25 | bouba_diop | yes |
| 18:31.49 | goldstein | ok, i see |
| 18:31.50 | Thanatermesis | is more user-friendly and better for your security :) |
| 18:32.05 | goldstein | hum, a litle like konsole doesnt it? |
| 18:32.19 | Thanatermesis | if you set the options for writable only by your user and your group, you look the old colors in this file and you are sure now to not is posible to edit/delete for anybody ;) |
| 18:32.30 | Thanatermesis | apt konsole |
| 18:32.32 | apt | konsole is, like, a GUI terminal emulator for kde |
| 18:32.39 | Thanatermesis | no idea |
| 18:33.00 | goldstein | konsole has lots of this stuff.. some even blonk |
| 18:33.03 | goldstein | blink |
| 18:33.43 | Thanatermesis | maybe... but this feature is for "the system" now, no just for a one application |
| 18:33.49 | goldstein | it's a pity that green goes really ugly with my dark red traslucent eterm background |
| 18:33.52 | Thanatermesis | if you make a "ls" in the pure console (no X), you have the same |
| 18:34.00 | goldstein | yes, its user friendly |
| 18:34.26 | Thanatermesis | goldstein yes, maybe is more ugly, i don't say to no :) |
| 18:34.31 | goldstein | pity its green:p |
| 18:34.43 | goldstein | well, tgt |
| 18:34.46 | goldstein | gtg |
| 18:34.50 | goldstein | xau |
| 18:34.56 | wasynyt | see you |
| 18:39.37 | egrub | Thanatermesis, siempre uso este thunderbird. Jeje |
| 18:40.43 | Thanatermesis | this is what i call "real quality of sound" :) |
| 18:40.53 | Thanatermesis | egrub pues ahora lo tendrá Elive ;) |
| 18:41.05 | egrub | :) |
| 18:47.48 | wasynyt | http://www.songbirdnest.com/ |
| 18:48.11 | wasynyt | i would like to see this in elive when it matures... (songbird i mean) |
| 18:51.40 | Thanatermesis | similar to macos, eh ? ;) |
| 18:51.56 | egrub | wasynyt, not is free? |
| 18:52.08 | wasynyt | it is free |
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| 18:52.13 | egrub | Ah |
| 18:52.19 | egrub | wasynyt, for linux? |
| 18:52.25 | wasynyt | based on firefox :D |
| 18:52.27 | wasynyt | yes |
| 18:52.31 | wasynyt | for linux too |
| 18:52.38 | Thanatermesis | link of download for linux ? |
| 18:52.43 | egrub | apt x es en donde esta download para linux ? |
| 18:53.22 | Thanatermesis | wasynyt do you have tried the streammers player to you have in the "audio" menu ? you can posible to record also from it ;) |
| 18:55.41 | wasynyt | hmm Thanatermesis i cant figure out what do you mean.. offcourse there is alot of different audioplayers/recorders some even present in elive.. i mean that i like "itunish" gui and when its free althe better... |
| 18:55.52 | wasynyt | http://www.songbirdnest.com/development |
| 18:56.21 | wasynyt | read here about the source.. the development is in beginning so nothing earthshaking :D |
| 18:56.51 | wasynyt | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:56.51 | wasynyt | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.05 | wasynyt | from the website |
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| 18:58.56 | Thanatermesis | wasynyt make a look on your "audio" menu of programs in elive ;) |
| 18:59.24 | wasynyt | i have... :D |
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| 19:38.37 | Thanatermesis | what is this stupidity wasynyt ? |
| 19:38.52 | Thanatermesis | it is released underl GPL but not has any file in the source code link |
| 19:39.02 | Thanatermesis | and also don't has any download for linux |
| 19:39.03 | Thanatermesis | bah |
| 19:40.53 | wasynyt | :S |
| 19:40.59 | wasynyt | i dont actually know.. |
| 19:41.14 | wasynyt | i have just happend to find it.. |
| 19:41.30 | wasynyt | and for it looks promising.. |
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| 19:41.50 | wasynyt | i liked tell about it... |
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| 19:41.57 | Thanatermesis | no when no exist any way to make it working or obtain the sources :) |
| 19:42.09 | wasynyt | :S |
| 19:42.12 | wasynyt | seems odd |
| 19:42.16 | Thanatermesis | what we need to make for obtain the suorces ? send a email and wait a reply ? lol |
| 19:42.36 | Thanatermesis | i don't understand why select the GPL license if is not interessed to release sources |
| 19:42.44 | wasynyt | dunno i heard about it first time in a symphonyos forum.. |
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| 19:42.57 | withoutclass | hola |
| 19:43.26 | wasynyt | greetings |
| 19:43.41 | withoutclass | havent talked to you in awhile wasynyt :P |
| 19:43.46 | wasynyt | :D |
| 19:44.47 | withoutclass | how ya doin |
| 19:45.15 | wasynyt | http://developer.songbirdnest.com/source/songbird/0.1.1/ download the file here.. it seems to have makefile in it :S |
| 19:45.19 | wasynyt | withoutclass, fine |
| 19:46.05 | withoutclass | =o |
| 19:46.16 | wasynyt | withoutclass, ? |
| 19:46.22 | withoutclass | i have no idea |
| 19:46.25 | wasynyt | :D |
| 19:46.29 | withoutclass | +F |
| 19:46.32 | withoutclass | wtf |
| 19:46.38 | wasynyt | o_0 |
| 19:47.09 | withoutclass | :F |
| 19:47.12 | withoutclass | fangs |
| 19:47.13 | withoutclass | xD |
| 19:47.35 | wasynyt | :D |
| 19:50.47 | withoutclass | anyone know how to unload engage/keep it from starting up |
| 19:54.09 | wasynyt | sorry Thanatermesis that project does not seem to have any idea what is proper source package |
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| 19:58.34 | sebby[n] | hi everybody |
| 19:58.38 | withoutclass | hi sebby[n] |
| 19:59.12 | Thanatermesis | hi sebby[n] |
| 19:59.33 | Thanatermesis | wasynyt no... you no... maybe their persons ;)... "oh, we license in gpl, is the new fashion" |
| 20:01.28 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:01.48 | wasynyt | i think some really should read the gpl license |
| 20:02.06 | Thanatermesis | maybe is good for not have problems... |
| 20:02.07 | Thanatermesis | for example |
| 20:02.12 | Thanatermesis | apt x es en obligado |
| 20:02.51 | Thanatermesis | if this persons use hte GPL license, are FORCED to make the things to are say in the GPL license, one of this things is give the source code |
| 20:03.02 | Thanatermesis | if this persons don't give it, is posible to have legal problems ;) |
| 20:04.17 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 20:04.38 | sebby[n] | apt are you translator or something? Yesterday I saw question about translating things for you to (sorry I recently join the project so don't know everybody yet :D) |
| 20:04.55 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 20:04.56 | withoutclass | apt apt |
| 20:04.58 | apt | [apt] the Advanced Package Tool, an advanced frontend for dpkg and rpm (depending on your system). For Debian it's a frontend for dpkg. an infobot, the same instance of a blootbot as ibot, jbot, and purl |
| 20:05.30 | Thanatermesis | sebby[n], apt is a bot, it make very things, memorize things, translate, weather... etc etc, is good specially for inform things to the ppl to ask |
| 20:05.40 | sebby[n] | loool |
| 20:05.46 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:05.51 | Thanatermesis | hehehe |
| 20:05.57 | Thanatermesis | but is a very realistic bot ;) |
| 20:05.59 | sebby[n] | o_O I feel so stupid know hehehe |
| 20:06.17 | Thanatermesis | it has better AI than alice (alice is one of the more famous AI bots in the world) |
| 20:06.40 | Thanatermesis | you can posible to have long conversations with apt without think to its a "machine" :) |
| 20:06.41 | Thanatermesis | apt hello :) |
| 20:06.42 | apt | I don't understand smilies. Don't use them. |
| 20:06.47 | sebby[n] | (it's also one of my first sessions on IRC so... :P) |
| 20:06.47 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 20:06.50 | sebby[n] | lol |
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| 20:06.56 | Thanatermesis | apt hello |
| 20:06.59 | apt | Howdy Bub |
| 20:07.06 | Thanatermesis | apt hello |
| 20:07.09 | apt | Howdy Bub |
| 20:07.13 | Thanatermesis | apt do you like Elive ? |
| 20:07.16 | apt | yes, I like Elive. |
| 20:07.23 | Thanatermesis | apt cook a tortilla for sebby[n] |
| 20:07.25 | apt | ACTION puts on his apron and fires up the stove. "Your a tortilla will be ready in a little while, sebby[n]." |
| 20:07.25 | sebby[n] | nice! |
| 20:07.47 | sebby[n] | I have a question Thanatermesis for you |
| 20:07.53 | Thanatermesis | yes ? :) |
| 20:07.54 | sebby[n] | I know I'm curious |
| 20:07.55 | sebby[n] | but |
| 20:08.09 | sebby[n] | are you a native spanish-speaking person ? |
| 20:08.11 | sebby[n] | ;) |
| 20:08.23 | Thanatermesis | yes :) |
| 20:08.26 | Thanatermesis | from barcelona |
| 20:08.59 | sebby[n] | no me lo creo |
| 20:09.14 | sebby[n] | sorry for others I meant whow cool! |
| 20:09.25 | sebby[n] | :) |
| 20:09.29 | Thanatermesis | jeje, claro que si ;) |
| 20:09.39 | Thanatermesis | he vivido en españa muchos años |
| 20:09.39 | sebby[n] | jo que bien |
| 20:09.49 | Thanatermesis | en este canal suelo hablar bastante en español |
| 20:10.19 | sebby[n] | ah si? entonces te molesta si te hablo castellano puesto que lo hablo mejor que inglés? |
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| 20:10.30 | egrub | sebby[n], no le molesta. |
| 20:10.32 | egrub | :) |
| 20:10.56 | sebby[n] | :) |
| 20:11.07 | Thanatermesis | no, perfecto :) este canal es bastante "multi-languages" ;) |
| 20:11.09 | egrub | Siempre hablo español con Thanatermesis Jeje |
| 20:11.20 | Thanatermesis | apt hola |
| 20:11.25 | Thanatermesis | apt que tal ? |
| 20:11.28 | apt | bien, gracias, y tu? |
| 20:11.30 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 20:11.37 | Thanatermesis | apt good bot :) |
| 20:11.37 | apt | Thanatermesis: thanks |
| 20:11.39 | sebby[n] | no me digas también que tu eres de habla hispana también? |
| 20:11.44 | sebby[n] | jajaja |
| 20:11.46 | egrub | sebby[n], si. |
| 20:11.54 | sebby[n] | habla también castellano apt? |
| 20:11.56 | egrub | Soy de Argentina. |
| 20:12.18 | Thanatermesis | si, y _H_, damosu, dererk, sinplomo y Nenillo tambien lo son |
| 20:12.25 | Thanatermesis | (sorry por el ping xD) |
| 20:12.27 | wasynyt | http://sourceforge.net/projects/songbird someone has estaplished a sourceforge account but it does not have anything in it :S |
| 20:13.11 | sebby[n] | eso es muy pero que muy bien. Me da mas ganas aun de contribuir a este proyecto :) |
| 20:13.12 | withoutclass | apt songbirg |
| 20:13.14 | withoutclass | apt songbird |
| 20:13.35 | withoutclass | mm back to e16, how nice =d |
| 20:13.36 | egrub | :) |
| 20:13.47 | Thanatermesis | wasynyt also nothing on the cvs http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/songbird/ |
| 20:13.56 | Thanatermesis | maybe this persons needs a little email ;) |
| 20:13.57 | withoutclass | Thanatermesis, how to turn off engage? |
| 20:14.05 | Thanatermesis | withoutclass e16 ? |
| 20:14.07 | wasynyt | coul be |
| 20:14.09 | withoutclass | si |
| 20:14.12 | dererk | Thanatermesis, grrr |
| 20:14.24 | egrub | dererk, estas despierto!! |
| 20:14.25 | egrub | xD |
| 20:14.31 | dererk | Thanatermesis, estaba con una tia de la ostia y el ping la asusto! |
| 20:14.32 | dererk | :P |
| 20:14.33 | Thanatermesis | withoutclass mmh.. not easy |
| 20:14.35 | egrub | dererk, #mundolinux ! |
| 20:14.36 | egrub | xD |
| 20:14.38 | dererk | egrub, xD |
| 20:14.39 | withoutclass | :( |
| 20:14.44 | withoutclass | maybe i will set it to auto hide |
| 20:14.45 | Thanatermesis | dererk y se fué corriendo ? |
| 20:14.49 | dererk | xD |
| 20:14.59 | dererk | Thanatermesis, no, se corrio antes de irse XDDDDD |
| 20:15.02 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 20:15.13 | Thanatermesis | entonces todo bien ;) |
| 20:15.16 | sebby[n] | lol |
| 20:15.18 | Thanatermesis | asi vuelve ;) |
| 20:15.47 | Thanatermesis | withoutclass maybe with a invalid option from the elpanel configuration |
| 20:16.13 | withoutclass | auto hide is ok, i just dont want it taking up space, i use hotkeys for launching programs =D |
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| 20:18.08 | wasynyt | Thanatermesis, it seems that they are planning to release linux version in their 0.2 version |
| 20:18.38 | wasynyt | Because the crossplatform tasks are taking longer than originally scoped, we are moving some of the Service API tasks back to fall under the 0.2 release. Yes, we hear you when you ask how you can put your great amazing music service into |
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| 20:19.11 | withoutclass | mmm much better |
| 20:19.18 | withoutclass | more beauty |
| 20:20.48 | sebby[n] | una pregunta : me pone el XChat Op y quitar Op. Eso qué es? para qué sirve? |
| 20:21.10 | wasynyt | it is time for me to get some sleep |
| 20:21.13 | sebby[n] | (I'm just a poor lone newbie ;)) |
| 20:21.17 | wasynyt | good night everyone |
| 20:21.50 | wasynyt_asleep | apt x es en una pregunta : me pone el XChat Op y quitar Op. Eso qué es? para qué sirve? |
| 20:22.14 | sebby[n] | wow sorry |
| 20:23.06 | Thanatermesis | sebby[n] si tienes "op", es cuando tienes derechos de "operador" en el canal, entre algunas cosas puedes banear o echar a la gente, cambiar el topic, etc... |
| 20:23.14 | Thanatermesis | "administrar el canal" vamos |
| 20:23.21 | sebby[n] | ah vale gracias |
| 20:23.31 | sebby[n] | y eso del ping? |
| 20:23.35 | sebby[n] | :s |
| 20:23.43 | Thanatermesis | apt ping |
| 20:23.45 | apt | pong |
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| 20:23.50 | sebby[n] | lol |
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| 20:24.01 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, bueno, el ping es solo una forma de saber si estas conectado |
| 20:24.10 | sebby[n] | apt x en fr ping |
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| 20:24.21 | Thanatermesis | puedes pinguear a google desde una terminal y recibiras la respuesta de google, con eso sabes que estas conectado |
| 20:24.23 | sebby[n] | ah vale es como para los paquetes de red entonces |
| 20:24.43 | sebby[n] | creia que era algo especial para IRC :p |
| 20:24.53 | Thanatermesis | tambien se usa para llamar a la gente, cuando dices su nombre ( sebby[n] ), es como si le llamaras, cuando lo llamas a veces le dices solo " sebby[n] ping "y sabe que lo estas llamando |
| 20:25.23 | Thanatermesis | es como para decirle "estas alli? tengo que preguntarte algo" |
| 20:25.24 | Thanatermesis | jeje |
| 20:25.30 | sebby[n] | ah vale |
| 20:25.32 | sebby[n] | es un toque |
| 20:26.12 | Thanatermesis | si |
| 20:26.22 | sebby[n] | gracias |
| 20:26.28 | sebby[n] | apt gracias |
| 20:26.30 | apt | somebody said gracias was thank you |
| 20:26.47 | Thanatermesis | apt tiene respuestas para todo |
| 20:26.52 | sebby[n] | ya veo jejeje |
| 20:26.53 | Thanatermesis | apt sing |
| 20:26.54 | apt | ACTION sings loudly |
| 20:26.57 | Thanatermesis | apt dance |
| 20:26.58 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, dance is ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' elive, stayin' elive.. |
| 20:27.05 | sebby[n] | lol |
| 20:27.20 | Thanatermesis | parece que esta obsesionado con Elive xD |
| 20:27.47 | sebby[n] | pero es un robot de IRC en general o lo hiciste tu? |
| 20:28.00 | Thanatermesis | no, es un robot de irc, |
| 20:28.03 | Thanatermesis | bueno, un bot |
| 20:28.03 | sebby[n] | vale |
| 20:28.10 | sebby[n] | vale |
| 20:28.12 | Thanatermesis | lo tienes en la debian/elive si quieres instalrlo ;) |
| 20:28.14 | withoutclass | Thanatermesis, !!!! |
| 20:28.16 | Thanatermesis | apt-cache show blootbot |
| 20:28.18 | Thanatermesis | withoutclass !!! |
| 20:28.25 | withoutclass | auto-laucher just worked for external USB drive |
| 20:28.31 | withoutclass | =OOOOO |
| 20:28.41 | Thanatermesis | withoutclass of course, you are on Elive ;) |
| 20:28.43 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 20:28.46 | sebby[n] | perdona para esas preguntas un poco estupidas |
| 20:28.52 | withoutclass | first time in over a month |
| 20:29.08 | sebby[n] | :) |
| 20:29.10 | Thanatermesis | withoutclass this is because you have removed things to not is good to remove ;) |
| 20:29.25 | withoutclass | O_o |
| 20:29.28 | Thanatermesis | hal |
| 20:29.29 | withoutclass | i didnt mean to T_T |
| 20:29.47 | withoutclass | hal has been on for long time, it only got removed the one day you saw |
| 20:30.00 | Thanatermesis | i don't know why is removed... |
| 20:30.13 | withoutclass | T_T |
| 20:30.16 | Thanatermesis | in any case... i need to make the feature on elpanel for "auto-repair" any thing on Elive :) |
| 20:30.17 | withoutclass | is ok, works now =D |
| 20:30.27 | withoutclass | i will try ipod again maybe |
| 20:30.42 | Thanatermesis | yes, try it, look if is create any directory on /media |
| 20:31.31 | withoutclass | :( |
| 20:31.32 | withoutclass | no |
| 20:32.59 | Thanatermesis | open a terminal and launch: ivman --nofork -d |
| 20:33.05 | Thanatermesis | look if has any extra message when you plug |
| 20:33.26 | Thanatermesis | but in any case.. we continue with this on the chanel special for this things... on #elive-unstable |
| 20:33.38 | withoutclass | root? |
| 20:37.42 | sebby[n] | Thanatermesis, I have lots of problems with the wiki.elivecd.org website, lots of timed out while try to view a page |
| 20:38.49 | withoutclass | sebby[n], this page has been very laggy/slow lately |
| 20:39.33 | sebby[n] | ok thanks I was wondering if something was wrong with my internet connection or something |
| 20:39.40 | withoutclass | nah |
| 20:39.58 | withoutclass | Thanatermesis, emailed the host, but, i dont know if they responded or what |
| 20:40.15 | sebby[n] | ok :s |
| 20:41.07 | sebby[n] | I wanted to work on it this night but it's going to be difficult I think... |
| 20:41.41 | withoutclass | very slow |
| 20:41.46 | withoutclass | makes it hard to write pages |
| 20:41.54 | sebby[n] | yes... it's a pity |
| 20:42.09 | sebby[n] | can I ask you something? |
| 20:42.10 | Thanatermesis | <sebby[n]> Thanatermesis, I have lots of problems with the wiki.elivecd.org website, lots of timed out while try to view a page |
| 20:42.13 | Thanatermesis | i know :( |
| 20:42.20 | withoutclass | of rouce |
| 20:42.21 | Thanatermesis | the server of Elive aparently has DoS attacks |
| 20:42.21 | withoutclass | course* |
| 20:42.31 | withoutclass | : \ |
| 20:42.32 | sebby[n] | in which part of the project are you involved? |
| 20:42.39 | sebby[n] | :P |
| 20:42.44 | withoutclass | user |
| 20:42.45 | Thanatermesis | me ? |
| 20:42.55 | sebby[n] | withoutclass sorry |
| 20:43.07 | withoutclass | help write wiki pages sometimes, offer as much help to others as possible, donate, etc |
| 20:43.21 | sebby[n] | ok nice :) |
| 20:43.26 | withoutclass | also some testing... |
| 20:43.33 | withoutclass | bug reporting blah blah |
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| 20:44.18 | sebby[n] | ok so when you'll write something for the wiki, tell me I'll translate it into French :) |
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| 20:45.08 | withoutclass | sebby[n], the only page i wrote was the enlightenment hotkeys page |
| 20:45.08 | withoutclass | =D |
| 20:45.33 | sebby[n] | it's the third next on my list ;) |
| 20:45.55 | withoutclass | ^_^d |
| 20:49.34 | sebby[n] | withoutclass do you know if anybody else is working on the translation or am I alone? |
| 20:49.41 | sebby[n] | please don't answer apt |
| 20:49.42 | sebby[n] | :P |
| 20:49.59 | withoutclass | i think just you for fr, but i am unsure |
| 20:50.30 | Thanatermesis | <sebby[n]> ok so when you'll write something for the wiki, tell me I'll translate it into French :) |
| 20:50.35 | Thanatermesis | this is a interesant thing |
| 20:50.43 | Thanatermesis | the original document is in english |
| 20:50.54 | tedshred | i volunteered to help with some of the translations.. but i havent had any time |
| 20:51.06 | sebby[n] | withoutclass ok thanks |
| 20:51.08 | Thanatermesis | and is the first document to are updated and from where the another translations are translated from |
| 20:51.11 | tedshred | i was also on the wiki.. but not anymore |
| 20:51.18 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... my english is more tarzanic everyday... |
| 20:51.24 | sebby[n] | Thanatermesis you could do it in Spanish no? |
| 20:51.40 | Thanatermesis | i think to the correct way for make this, sebby[n], is reading on the "discussion" part of the article |
| 20:51.53 | Thanatermesis | the problem is "how to the another editors know about this change" ? |
| 20:51.55 | Thanatermesis | i don't know... |
| 20:51.59 | tedshred | could be done in nay language.. but for maximum effecticeness.. english is probably the best choice. |
| 20:52.02 | Thanatermesis | maybe we need to ask on #mediawiki |
| 20:52.20 | tedshred | most people whos primary langauage is not english also speak some english |
| 20:52.32 | Thanatermesis | <sebby[n]> withoutclass do you know if anybody else is working on the translation or am I alone? |
| 20:52.32 | withoutclass | true |
| 20:52.35 | tedshred | most people whos primary langauage is english do not speak any other langauegs |
| 20:52.45 | sebby[n] | ok... |
| 20:52.55 | Thanatermesis | the new sites are opened since 1 week aproximately (more info in the News of Elive site) |
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| 20:53.02 | sebby[n] | about the changes of one page |
| 20:53.18 | Thanatermesis | <sebby[n]> Thanatermesis you could do it in Spanish no? |
| 20:53.18 | sebby[n] | I reeived email notification when changed last time |
| 20:53.24 | tedshred | i like the changes to the wiki page... but i lost my account.. |
| 20:53.44 | Thanatermesis | sorry, i don't have very time for all this, i need to lost more time in the developement thing and no with the site's stuff |
| 20:54.11 | sebby[n] | of course I understand that |
| 20:54.11 | tedshred | thanatermesis.. i think most of us agree that wed rather have you working on the development stuff.. |
| 20:54.14 | tedshred | and less on the websites. |
| 20:54.28 | tedshred | some of us in here cna help you out with the website and documentation. |
| 20:54.39 | sebby[n] | yes I agre |
| 20:54.42 | withoutclass | most of us in here can |
| 20:54.47 | sebby[n] | agree |
| 20:55.15 | Thanatermesis | sebby[n] mmmh, dices que cuando yo modifiqué la pagina original donde añadiste "esta parte esta tambien en Frances", recibiste automaticamente un email ? |
| 20:55.31 | sebby[n] | si diciendo que lo habias cambiado |
| 20:55.39 | sebby[n] | y luego al conectarme |
| 20:55.49 | sebby[n] | se me presento la pagina talk:Main_page |
| 20:56.03 | sebby[n] | indicandome donde habias hecho cambios |
| 20:56.34 | sebby[n] | asi pude comprobar exactamente lo que modificaste |
| 20:58.04 | Thanatermesis | aha |
| 20:58.17 | Thanatermesis | eso esta muy bien :) |
| 20:59.08 | sebby[n] | no sé si vendra de esto o no pero por defecto tengo la opcion "seguir el articulo" activada |
| 20:59.08 | Thanatermesis | asi que... cualquier persona que edite la pagina original (en este caso solo poner a la traduccion en X idioma), en cuanto se modifique la pagina se le informa... |
| 20:59.28 | Thanatermesis | mmh, eso es muy posible |
| 20:59.32 | sebby[n] | si creo también que hay que ponerlo en las opciones |
| 20:59.51 | fluid21_7 | hola, Thanatermesis |
| 20:59.59 | Thanatermesis | bien, voy a escribir un par de lineas mas en el Rules ;) |
| 21:00.02 | Thanatermesis | hola fluid21_7 |
| 21:00.32 | sebby[n] | oye no te pases he :P que queda mucho por traducir y si vas anadiendo muchas cosas jajajaj |
| 21:00.49 | fluid21_7 | Thanatermesis, I think I'm about to give up on the 2.6.16-1 kernel |
| 21:01.34 | Thanatermesis | el rules tambien esta en frances ? no va mal :) |
| 21:01.51 | Thanatermesis | fluid21_7 what ? |
| 21:01.51 | sebby[n] | aun no |
| 21:02.05 | sebby[n] | estoy trabajando en el user |
| 21:02.08 | sebby[n] | de momento |
| 21:02.13 | Thanatermesis | oh! fuck!, 2.6.16 has enter on ETCH |
| 21:02.36 | withoutclass | =o |
| 21:02.41 | withoutclass | when? |
| 21:02.45 | fluid21_7 | Thanatermesis, no..don't panick :-). I donwloaded and compiled my own kernel |
| 21:02.54 | withoutclass | Thanatermesis, no |
| 21:03.17 | fluid21_7 | Thanatermesis, In an atempt to get some of my hardware working |
| 21:03.24 | Thanatermesis | fluid21_7 yes but... i have made a 2.6.15 with a LOT of drivers and external packages and i don't want now to make again all this work... |
| 21:03.28 | Thanatermesis | i need to release 0.5 soon... |
| 21:03.40 | fluid21_7 | exactly, I'll switch to your kernel |
| 21:04.05 | Thanatermesis | what is your hardware ? |
| 21:04.11 | bouba_diop | soon?:D |
| 21:04.31 | fluid21_7 | The thing that is particularly annoying is my wired network interface, its a Yukon Marvel thing |
| 21:04.41 | fluid21_7 | supposed to come under the sk98lin drivers |
| 21:04.54 | Thanatermesis | yukon 1 GB ? |
| 21:05.10 | SteveMyers | Thanatermesis, the "Who We Sponsor" is back up on the bottom footer |
| 21:05.15 | fluid21_7 | No, its a 10/100 card |
| 21:05.39 | fluid21_7 | Part of an 'LG ls55 express' notebook (centrino chipset) |
| 21:05.43 | Thanatermesis | <M> Marvell Yukon Chipset / SysKonnect SK-98xx Support |
| 21:05.49 | Thanatermesis | this is what has the 2.6.15 kernel of Elive 0.5 |
| 21:06.07 | SteveMyers | Thanatermesis, if you're trying to test the side navigation links, they don't work as you will see: Invalid License. |
| 21:06.10 | fluid21_7 | yes, I downloaded the patch from the company...but compilation fails :-( |
| 21:06.22 | SteveMyers | We're getting a new license sent to us |
| 21:06.23 | Thanatermesis | ok SteveMyers |
| 21:06.44 | Thanatermesis | fluid21_7 this is the module to 2.6.15 has, its good ? |
| 21:07.04 | Thanatermesis | sk98lin.ko |
| 21:07.18 | fluid21_7 | I haven't tried the 2.6.15 yet. I've just officially given up on my 2.6.16-1 kernel :-) |
| 21:07.56 | fluid21_7 | I'm still a little unfamiliar with apt-get (and no solaris package systems in general). How do I upgrade to your 2.6.15 kernel? |
| 21:08.39 | withoutclass | download off page iirc |
| 21:08.54 | Taka0 | apt iirc |
| 21:08.55 | apt | somebody said iirc was "if I recall correctly" |
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| 21:11.02 | withoutclass | apt falkom |
| 21:11.13 | withoutclass | rawr |
| 21:11.31 | Thanatermesis | fluid21_7 you need the "tests" branch |
| 21:11.33 | Thanatermesis | apt elive-faq |
| 21:11.35 | apt | elive-faq is probably http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/FAQ |
| 21:11.42 | Thanatermesis | is here writed how to add it |
| 21:11.54 | Thanatermesis | and then fluid21_7, just "apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.15" |
| 21:12.30 | Thanatermesis | btw, more info on the developement site of Elive about this kernel (and how to add it on grub, for example) |
| 21:12.31 | fluid21_7 | ok, thanks |
| 21:13.49 | fluid21_7 | I'm ok with grub etc. Just not familiar with this distro/ non-Solaris, non-NetBSD way of doing things |
| 21:14.52 | withoutclass | fluid21_7, apt-get is very good =D |
| 21:15.42 | fluid21_7 | I like what I've seen |
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| 21:17.59 | fluid21_7 | I just wan't sure if one need to add extra flags to install kernels |
| 21:18.07 | fluid21_7 | to apt-get, that is |
| 21:18.56 | withoutclass | just need the test branch, and then add to grub, and voila |
| 21:19.06 | sebby[n] | apt x en fr This is the real essence of Linux way to do it |
| 21:19.19 | sebby[n] | not so bad ! |
| 21:19.21 | sebby[n] | :D |
| 21:20.24 | withoutclass | apt is better at en to any, not too good at any to en |
| 21:20.33 | withoutclass | for instance |
| 21:20.41 | withoutclass | apt x fr en c'est la vraie essence de la manière de linux de la faire |
| 21:20.51 | sebby[n] | looool |
| 21:20.58 | withoutclass | case and point |
| 21:21.14 | sebby[n] | but that's nice for me as I translate from English :) |
| 21:21.19 | withoutclass | yep |
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| 21:22.36 | lordbambi | thanatermesis are you around? |
| 21:24.25 | fluid21_7 | in sources.list, do I simply add 'tests' to the end of the main repository, or should I add another line with 'tests' on the end? |
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| 21:24.34 | lordbambi | hold on.... |
| 21:25.07 | lordbambi | what line are you talking about? the etch list or the elive list? |
| 21:25.47 | fluid21_7 | the elive |
| 21:26.10 | lordbambi | deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive/ elive main efl elive |
| 21:27.02 | fluid21_7 | thanks |
| 21:27.51 | lordbambi | that s the one i have in my sources.list |
| 21:28.03 | withoutclass | lordbambi, he is adding tests branch |
| 21:28.15 | lordbambi | aaah ok, that is something else... |
| 21:28.25 | lordbambi | i don't have that one. |
| 21:28.40 | lordbambi | srry |
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| 21:29.09 | withoutclass | fluid21_7, it is the same as lordbambi put, but add tests at the end of the line |
| 21:29.12 | fluid21_7 | its done guys, I'm upgrading as we speak. Thanks for the help |
| 21:29.42 | lordbambi | does anyonse here know anything about the alsa bug reported on the website? |
| 21:29.53 | withoutclass | lordbambi, you have sound issues? |
| 21:30.04 | lordbambi | yes but i found away around it :-) |
| 21:30.05 | withoutclass | apt bugs |
| 21:30.24 | withoutclass | eh |
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| 21:30.33 | withoutclass | apt esd |
| 21:30.34 | apt | methinks esd is the enhanced segfault daemon, or the Enlightened Sound Daemon. While some people think it's useless, they don't know much better. It fills its niche, and fills it fairly well. Some interesting things that can be done include using 'mpg123' on a remote computer, and having it connct to a local esound daemon. see esd-sd... Oh and ESD also means ... |
| 21:30.58 | withoutclass | apt esd-sd |
| 21:31.07 | lordbambi | i was wondering if thana knows what is wrong with it. if not, i'm gonna look into it |
| 21:31.26 | withoutclass | i have never experienced any kind of alsa "bug" |
| 21:32.03 | lordbambi | everytime i reboot i have to reconfigure alsa. i solved it by using the soundblaster kernel module |
| 21:32.32 | lordbambi | apt alsa |
| 21:32.34 | apt | alsa is probably the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, or at http://www.alsa-project.org/, or available only for Linux (if you intend your code to be portable, ask me about OSS) |
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| 21:36.45 | sebby[n] | apt x en fr audio mixer |
| 21:37.11 | sebby[n] | ok not for this time I'll check the dictionnary :) |
| 21:37.15 | sebby[n] | thanks apt |
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| 21:43.05 | transient | check |
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| 21:45.10 | thetransient | halloooo |
| 21:45.32 | pycs | hello, thetransient :) |
| 21:45.35 | thetransient | any body out there? |
| 21:45.46 | thetransient | hey man lookin for a little support |
| 21:45.52 | withoutclass | k |
| 21:45.53 | withoutclass | shoot |
| 21:46.27 | thetransient | trying to make ffmpeg2theora work with oggfwd or something comparable |
| 21:47.03 | thetransient | oggfwd seems to be where the trouble is |
| 21:47.16 | withoutclass | apt oggfwd |
| 21:47.36 | thetransient | dont find oggfwd in apt |
| 21:47.45 | withoutclass | why are you using this |
| 21:47.55 | thetransient | for kicks i guess |
| 21:48.00 | withoutclass | uhh |
| 21:48.09 | withoutclass | this is not a very actual answer |
| 21:48.12 | thetransient | thrilling stunts |
| 21:48.33 | withoutclass | if you actually want help, maybe you should try asking a real question or answer appropriately |
| 21:48.35 | thetransient | uhh wanting to stream live video across the network |
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| 21:49.12 | withoutclass | you need this? |
| 21:49.18 | Thanatermesis | thetransient maybe better on #cinelerra |
| 21:49.42 | Thanatermesis | (for theora and related things) |
| 21:49.51 | thetransient | roger cinelerra BIG GUY ill try it |
| 21:50.34 | withoutclass | what a weird guy |
| 21:50.52 | withoutclass | why would you ask a cinelerra question in elive channel |
| 21:50.58 | withoutclass | i think he is little |
| 21:51.38 | pycs | maybe he's just have a good day, that's why he kids a lot.. :) |
| 21:54.11 | sebby[n] | Thanatermesis what do you mean by : |
| 21:54.27 | sebby[n] | Linux has [[init scripts]] on the system that are launched when you boot the machine. |
| 21:55.12 | sebby[n] | some scripts are loaded while booting? |
| 21:55.34 | sebby[n] | apt init script |
| 21:55.35 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, init script is add your custom script to /etc/init.d/ (it must have a shebang line (that #!/bin/sh or whatever at the beginning) and be mode +x), then do update-rc.d <your script name> defaults |
| 21:56.01 | sebby[n] | lol |
| 21:56.09 | sebby[n] | anyone can help me? |
| 21:56.45 | withoutclass | sebby[n], you dont know init scripts? |
| 21:57.14 | sebby[n] | I've heard of them but never used them |
| 21:57.20 | sebby[n] | well I don't think so |
| 21:57.43 | sebby[n] | I'm a translator not a computer-master ;) |
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| 22:00.31 | sebby[n] | I can imagine what they are but I'm not very sure |
| 22:02.57 | withoutclass | they are scripts that are run at boot time to perform certain tasks |
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| 22:04.25 | sebby[n] | ok like loading video card driver? |
| 22:05.00 | Thanatermesis | <sebby[n]> some scripts are loaded while booting? |
| 22:05.02 | Thanatermesis | of course |
| 22:05.07 | Thanatermesis | all the scripts are on /etc/init.d |
| 22:05.38 | sebby[n] | ok thanks :) |
| 22:06.04 | sebby[n] | (I'll learn plenty of things translating for Elive, that's great :)) |
| 22:07.42 | withoutclass | sebby[n], =D |
| 22:07.47 | withoutclass | hi roxville_ how u doin |
| 22:09.16 | sebby[n] | apt number of order |
| 22:09.35 | sebby[n] | apt x en fr number of order |
| 22:11.01 | sebby[n] | withoutclass number of order for an init script means when the script will be executed (first, second, last...)right ? |
| 22:11.16 | withoutclass | oui |
| 22:11.21 | sebby[n] | merci |
| 22:11.31 | sebby[n] | do you speak french? |
| 22:12.23 | withoutclass | non, very little, i took classes in school, so i only know how to say yes/no/may i go to the wc |
| 22:12.40 | sebby[n] | lol |
| 22:12.43 | sebby[n] | that's nice |
| 22:12.46 | withoutclass | =D |
| 22:17.20 | withoutclass | brb |
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| 22:32.49 | simonpca | ++ |
| 22:33.02 | withoutclass | no you |
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| 22:44.58 | sebby[n] | enough work for tonight. Good night to everybody! |
| 22:45.04 | withoutclass | night night sebby[n] |
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| 23:17.26 | withoutclass | =o |
| 23:17.34 | withoutclass | reign of chaos! |
| 23:17.40 | Mutacion | qiubole withoutclass |
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| 23:17.54 | withoutclass | apt x es en qiubole |
| 23:18.00 | withoutclass | apt bad apt |
| 23:18.01 | apt | Bad apt, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 23:18.02 | withoutclass | >_< |
| 23:18.02 | Mutacion | xD |
| 23:18.09 | Mutacion | apt say qiubole withoutclass |
| 23:18.10 | apt | qiubole withoutclass |
| 23:18.13 | Mutacion | lol xD |
| 23:18.20 | withoutclass | Mutacion, what is qiubole |
| 23:18.37 | Mutacion | this will be the second time i told u.. |
| 23:18.46 | withoutclass | =X |
| 23:18.56 | Mutacion | qiubole = salut! = hi = hello = how are u = etc |
| 23:19.01 | withoutclass | hmm |
| 23:19.11 | withoutclass | are you sure this is the 2nd time? |
| 23:21.13 | withoutclass | Mutacion, you know what time it is? |
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| 23:22.56 | withoutclass | reign of chaos! |
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| 23:34.37 | Mutacion | its hambrita time |
| 23:34.52 | Mutacion | but.. im not in my home.. im in a ciber in mexico city (im in vacations) |
| 23:37.59 | withoutclass | lucky ! |
| 23:38.27 | withoutclass | i have only been to Puerta Viarta |
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| 23:40.39 | Mutacion | bai bai xD |
| 23:40.44 | withoutclass | bai |
| 23:40.50 | Mutacion | Puerto vallarta jiji Xd |
| 23:40.54 | Mutacion | bai = bye |
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| 23:42.55 | gagarine | hello... |
| 23:43.14 | gagarine | juste to say good night... |
| 23:43.19 | gagarine | lol |
| 23:46.55 | withoutclass | good night gagarine |
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