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`00:22.58`	`Acrimonious`	`bye all`
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`01:05.04`	`pajaroloco`	`nas noshes se puede?`
`01:05.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`no`
`01:05.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`01:05.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`como vamos pajaroloco ?`
`01:05.36`	`pajaroloco`	`nene estoy probando elive :p`
`01:05.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya veo :)`
`01:05.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`la 0.4.2 ?`
`01:06.08`	`pajaroloco`	`y esta muy bien`
`01:06.20`	`pajaroloco`	`pues no se me lo bajo un amigo`
`01:06.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`cat /etc/elive-version`
`01:07.25`	`pajaroloco`	`ai 0.4.2`
`01:07.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`esa esta bien :)`
`01:08.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`estoy preparando la 0.5 y necesito beta-testers en un par de dias, te apuntas? ;)`
`01:08.26`	`pajaroloco`	`no tengo banda ancha`
`01:08.36`	`pajaroloco`	`si no me apuntaria de buen grado`
`01:08.47`	`quidam-`	`Thanatermesis, oe tio, ayer saque la beta3 de ulanix :P`
`01:08.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`vaya que bien quidam- :)`
`01:09.12`	`pajaroloco`	`ulanix??? eso que es`
`01:09.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`pajaroloco yo estoy con unp roblema parecido... pero lo queno tengo es para subir/distribuir las isos xD`
`01:09.37`	`quidam-`	`pajaroloco, un proyecto local de mi ciudad, una distro linux para la universidad`
`01:09.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`quidam- y que tal anda ?`
`01:09.52`	`quidam-`	`Thanatermesis, pues funciona mejor de lo que esperaba :P`
`01:10.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`01:10.04`	`quidam-`	`arranca muy rapido asi que estoy pensando que hay algo fallando xDDDD`
`01:10.19`	`pajaroloco`	`jeje`
`01:10.21`	`quidam-`	`porque arranca en menos de 2 minutos`
`01:10.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`01:11.00`	`pajaroloco`	`que dise "wenas soy ulanix" y reinicia????`
`01:11.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso es bueno ;)`
`01:11.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`01:11.10`	`pajaroloco`	`jaja`
`01:11.14`	`quidam-`	`pajaroloco, aun mejor`
`01:11.20`	`quidam-`	`no pasa del arranque`
`01:11.20`	`quidam-`	`xD`
`01:11.26`	`quidam-`	`aparece ulanix y queda alli`
`01:11.27`	`quidam-`	`ji ji ji`
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`01:12.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`que mal xD`
`01:12.53`	`salah`	`hola`
`01:13.09`	`pajaroloco`	`oye Thanatermesis , en config , moden conection solo busca adsl lo sabias?`
`01:14.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`que quieres decir pajaroloco ? que otra cosa mas "habria" ?`
`01:14.27`	`pajaroloco`	`moden 56k por ejemplo?`
`01:14.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh... y eso como se haria ?`
`01:14.39`	`pajaroloco`	`hay gente que no sabe tirar del pppconfig`
`01:14.56`	`pajaroloco`	`opcion a moden opcion b dsl`
`01:15.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues si no saben ni por esas, que quieres que les ponga ? xD`
`01:15.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero cuantos miles de conexiones por modem y ppp's existen ?`
`01:15.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`porque yo nunca me aclaro`
`01:15.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`es mas, no tengo ni idea de cuales existen`
`01:15.58`	`pajaroloco`	`ya pero si pone moden conection tu que piensas`
`01:16.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo de eso no tengo ni idea xD`
`01:16.22`	`pajaroloco`	`??????????`
`01:16.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues nose`
`01:16.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`modem, telefono`
`01:17.33`	`pajaroloco`	`a ver te lo digo porque todavia hay gente que tiramos de moden de 56k`
`01:17.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno, y como os lo montais ?`
`01:18.05`	`pajaroloco`	`pppconfig`
`01:18.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`el problema basicamente, es que con ese programita tan lindo y facil de usar que hay alli... solo hay "lo que hay", y si tengo que añadir otra cosa como lo del modem 56k (otro programa diferente), voy a tener que crear un menu primero antes de eso para elegir varios programas, tu sabe ?`
`01:19.36`	`pajaroloco`	`aja bueno yo me busque la vida jeje`
`01:20.26`	`pajaroloco`	`oye que no toy criticando solo te doy mi opinion`
`01:20.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`nose... a ver, estar bien estaria bien, si`
`01:20.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya ya`
`01:20.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`lo que pasa es que bueno`
`01:20.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`primero de todo`
`01:21.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`lo que necesito es alguien que me pruebe TODOS los programas de debian que puedan configurar el ppp este, y a ver cual es mejor`
`01:21.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`porsupuesto, que escriba en /etc/network/interfaces, sino no vale :P`
`01:22.30`	`pajaroloco`	`Thanatermesis, es tan sencillo como poner una linea que pon`
`01:23.05`	`pajaroloco`	`que pon sudo pppconfig y te sale el programa de configuracion de conexiones`
`01:23.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya bueno, a mi no me lo digas... yo no voy a matarme a escribir el programa (espero xD), lo tendria que hacer el programa en si`
`01:23.39`	`pajaroloco`	`lo acabo de probar en la terminal`
`01:24.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`si... estar esta incluido...`
`01:24.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`lo que no esta es graficamente xD`
`01:24.55`	`pajaroloco`	`je je`
`01:25.08`	`_H_`	`olle thanatermesis, estoy intentando coger uno de mis videos de la camara que tengo en un avi y verlos con el cinelerra y no lo logro`
`01:25.11`	`_H_`	`como se hace?`
`01:25.18`	`_H_`	`estoy en el elive :)`
`01:25.34`	`_H_`	`no hay forma`
`01:25.36`	`_H_`	`:)`
`01:25.43`	`_H_`	`nunca lo logro`
`01:25.51`	`_H_`	`es por que me falta algo?`
`01:26.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues...`
`01:26.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`creo que esas cosas se hacen con el "kino"`
`01:26.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`no se si el cinelerra tendrá para hacer eso o no`
`01:26.54`	`_H_`	`he probado el kino pero tampoco, voy a volver a intentarlo`
`01:26.57`	`_H_`	`a ver...`
`01:27.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero si lo consigues desde el cinelerra o "necesariamente" dependes del kino... avisa, quizas deba incluir el kino`
`01:27.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`en que version de Elive estas ?`
`01:27.30`	`_H_`	`la 34`
`01:27.36`	`_H_`	`perdon 0.2.4`
`01:27.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`0.4.2`
`01:27.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`uf...`
`01:27.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso tiene unkernel muy viejoxD`
`01:27.58`	`_H_`	`ya tienes en los servidores el 0.5?`
`01:28.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, algo asi`
`01:28.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`estoy haciendo versiones "beta" cada 2 dias xD`
`01:28.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`si quieres hay una iso por alli... pero tengo que subir una mas reciente... y al ritmo que voy espero conseguirlo esta noche antes de irme a dormir`
`01:28.39`	`_H_`	`oye, me quiero montar mi propio live-cd y me gustaria hacerlo con lo de tu amigo`
`01:28.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`(y yo que queria irme a dormir pronto... xD)`
`01:28.49`	`_H_`	`hay algun manual?`
`01:29.09`	`pajaroloco`	`pero si tu no duermes`
`01:29.11`	`pajaroloco`	`jajajajaaj`
`01:29.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, hay algo de documentacion... pillate este bookmark que es la pgina del proyecto: http://www.dsslive.org`
`01:29.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`pajaroloco puf, hoy e dormido 2 horas y ahora mismo estoy sudando de tanto trabajar (solo golpear el teclado con los dedos) xD`
`01:30.03`	`pajaroloco`	`jeje`
`01:31.52`	`pajaroloco`	`weno yo me voy a dormir (ocho u diez horas nomas )`
`01:31.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`esto me está quedando que da miedo =)`
`01:31.53`	`pajaroloco`	`hoy lo cuelgas???`
`01:31.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`me probarás la siguiente version eh _H_ ? que estara muy buena esta siguiente beta ;)`
`01:31.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`espero poder hacerlo (necesito 7 horas de upload)`
`01:31.54`	`_H_`	`el kino se vuelve loco con el avi`
`01:31.54`	`pajaroloco`	`cosno`
`01:32.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`_H_ quizas encuentres mas informacion en #cinelerra que hacen siempre ese tipo de cosas...a unque suelen tardar un poco en responder`
`01:32.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`pajaroloco diald - dial on demand daemon for PPP and SLIP.`
`01:32.36`	`_H_`	`vaya mierda`
`01:33.04`	`_H_`	`el kino sirve si tienes dv`
`01:33.08`	`_H_`	`yo tengo un puto avi`
`01:33.12`	`_H_`	`de mi camara de fotos`
`01:33.16`	`pajaroloco`	`joes`
`01:33.21`	`_H_`	`y no puedo abrirlo ni en kino ni en cinelerra`
`01:33.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`aaah, te la camara ?`
`01:33.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso es otra historia hombre`
`01:33.39`	`_H_`	`no, es la intentaba decir desde el principio`
`01:33.52`	`_H_`	`cinelerra me lo deja oir pero no ver ni renderizar`
`01:33.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`mejor prueba directamente la siguiente relase de Elive que te montara directamente la camara con el file-manager para que hagas lo que quieras alli dentro =)`
`01:34.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno, eso es un problema de codecs`
`01:34.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`lo mejor es que conviertas el video este tuyo a un formato mas usado que el cinelerra acepte`
`01:34.25`	`_H_`	`seguro?`
`01:34.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`como un .mpg`
`01:34.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, es un poco delicado con los codecs`
`01:34.35`	`_H_`	`y como hago eso?`
`01:34.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`por eso yo siemrpe paso todos mis videos a un formato que el cinelerra soporta ;)`
`01:34.59`	`_H_`	`como lo hago?`
`01:35.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo uso este script mio`
`01:35.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`es bastante basico, pero te cambia el formato, pruebalo a ver que tal te va`
`01:35.49`	`_H_`	`ya lo tengo supongo`
`01:36.01`	`_H_`	`lo que no se es donde :(`
`01:36.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`en .xchat2/downloads`
`01:36.17`	`_H_`	`si`
`01:36.25`	`_H_`	`acabo de leerlo en preferencias`
`01:36.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`voy a tener que cambiar ese directorio en Elive :)`
`01:37.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`joder !`
`01:38.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`tengo un TODO list que me ocupa la pantalla entera, y eso que usa una fuente peqeuña xD`
`01:38.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`aparte de eso tengo otras 15 horas mas :S`
`01:38.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`si me pagaran por lo que hago ya seria multimillonario xD`
`01:39.11`	`quidam-`	`ufffff le ganarias a mark shuttleworth xD`
`01:39.26`	`quidam-`	`oe Thanatermesis me aprovaron mi ultimo pedido de cds de ubuntu breezy xP`
`01:39.28`	`_H_`	`codificando a ver...`
`01:39.39`	`quidam-`	`300 cds mas para mi largo historial de pedidos xP`
`01:39.55`	`_H_`	`el mplayer lo ve bien`
`01:39.57`	`_H_`	`eso me gusta`
`01:40.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`quidam- te regalo los mios que no se ni que hacer con ellos xD`
`01:40.57`	`_H_`	`y se ha reducido mucho los megas, esome gusta mas`
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`01:41.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`_H_ mplayer es el mejor centro multimedia en todos los sentidos de todos los tiempo, y el que me lleve la contraria lo mato :)`
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`01:41.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`\o/ Duvelr`
`01:41.44`	`quidam-`	`Thanatermesis, enga que yo los uso para incentivar el uso de soft libre :P`
`01:41.54`	`Duvelr`	`Hola`
`01:42.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`quidam- te los daria si supiera como... pero no creo que pasen por DCC xD`
`01:42.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`que tal Duvelr ?`
`01:42.13`	`quidam-`	`xDDDDDDDD`
`01:43.03`	`Duvelr`	`muy contento... finalmete encontre donde cambiar colores a las "font" en "texblock" :)`
`01:43.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah, hostia textblock, eso lo toqué el otro dia para una chapucilla que hice`
`01:43.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`es muy facil el textblock ;)`
`01:44.15`	`_H_`	`joer se ha colgao el cinelerra al abrilo :(`
`01:44.15`	`_H_`	`vuelvo a intentar`
`01:44.19`	`Duvelr`	`cuando conoces donde esta!!! yo no tenia un .edc para esto Thanatermesis!`
`01:44.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`_H_ es muchissimo mas estable que hace unos años... pero no perfecto xD`
`01:44.34`	`Duvelr`	`y me tenia loco...`
`01:44.39`	`_H_`	`bash: joder: command not found`
`01:44.41`	`_H_`	`XDD`
`01:45.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`Duvelr cuando quieras un edc paseate por http://thanatermesis.org/edje ;)`
`01:45.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`hay un dir abajo de todo con montones de edc con ejemplos y todo`
`01:45.23`	`Duvelr`	`I now never need to fig out a disc from a SHELF or cupboard to watch - just`
`01:45.23`	`Duvelr`	`select with my remote and have fun....`
`01:45.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`Duvelr http://thanatermesis.org/edje/examples/codes/`
`01:45.58`	`Duvelr`	`muy amable... "ya le caigo"`
`01:46.36`	`Duvelr`	`la nota anterior es de......!`
`01:47.33`	`_H_`	`es normal que el cinelerra le digas abir el fichero mpg y este pensandoselo un rato largo?`
`01:47.52`	`_H_`	`pos entonces es que no puede abirlo tampoco en mpg`
`01:47.56`	`_H_`	`alguna idea?`
`01:48.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`_H_ si lo pasaste con este script que te pasé, no es un .mpg sino un avi (aceptado por cinelerra)`
`01:48.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`cambiale la extension a ver`
`01:49.10`	`_H_`	`era un avi`
`01:49.18`	`_H_`	`pero lo converti con tu escript`
`01:49.31`	`Duvelr`	`Thanatermesis, no veo ningun textblock por ahi...`
`01:49.38`	`_H_`	`a un mpg`
`01:50.12`	`_H_`	`provando a convertirlo de un avi a un avi :)`
`01:50.28`	`_H_`	`verse se ve bien`
`01:50.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`Duvelr no... alli no hay ninguno`
`01:50.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`espera, que te paso una linea`
`01:50.57`	`_H_`	`joer que raro no puedo escribir en la consola`
`01:51.06`	`_H_`	`tengo que abrirme otra :P`
`01:51.42`	`_H_`	`ostras ahora si lo veo!`
`01:51.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`_H_ cambiale la extension a .avi`
`01:51.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`porque es un .avi, no un .mpg`
`01:52.01`	`_H_`	`pues sera eso`
`01:52.05`	`_H_`	`interesante :))))`
`01:52.19`	`_H_`	`ahora ya puedo editar mis videos y cambiarle el codec de sonido :)))`
`01:52.24`	`_H_`	`o eso ya lo has echo tu?`
`01:52.32`	`_H_`	`que codecs me aconsejais?`
`01:52.46`	`_H_`	`yo pensaba en on ogg vorbis`
`01:54.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`ese es muy bueno`
`01:54.42`	`_H_`	`no me deja, could not open`
`01:54.46`	`_H_`	`no se que no puede abir`
`01:54.57`	`_H_`	`debo ser demasiado novato con esto`
`01:54.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`aunque si buscas "compatiblidad" con todo el mundo... (windows y tal), metelo en mpg... pero el mpg no tiene tanta calidad en tamaño pequeño`
`01:55.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`no es demasiado facil de utilizar el cinelerra... y la exportacion (renderizacion tienes que elegir) es un poco complicada al principio porque te lista muchas opciones que parecen repetidas`
`01:56.15`	`_H_`	`ostras esta renderizando por primera vez!`
`01:56.23`	`_H_`	`no le puse el fichero destino, supongo que es eso`
`01:56.45`	`_H_`	`ostras que gusto`
`01:56.54`	`_H_`	`por primera vez logro que el cinelerra me funcione`
`01:58.07`	`_H_`	`joooooder! ha petao en plena accion!`
`01:58.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDD`
`01:59.23`	`_H_`	`no me extraña el tamaño del fichero era enooooorme`
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`01:59.29`	`_H_`	`del que estaba haciendo digo`
`01:59.47`	`salah`	`hi. how do I upgrade my kernel?`
`02:00.12`	`_H_`	`que vitrate le pongo?`
`02:00.31`	`salah`	`sorry, I don't understand spanish`
`02:00.34`	`_H_`	`que es el vitrate? la cantidad de bits por segundo?`
`02:00.55`	`salah`	`hola`
`02:01.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`salah http://wiki.elivecd.org has a good tutorial for this ;)`
`02:01.49`	`_H_`	`reintentando`
`02:03.27`	`_H_`	`veo que cuando llega a 100 peta`
`02:03.33`	`_H_`	`a 100% del renderizado`
`02:03.56`	`_H_`	`pero en vez de empequeñecer crece a 10 veces su tamaño original`
`02:04.01`	`_H_`	`algo no ira bien`
`02:05.29`	`Duvelr`	`alguien aqui me puede hablar del estado actual de "eem"?`
`02:05.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`usa otro codec, algunos petan`
`02:06.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`utiliza ogg theora ese, _H_, que esta muy bueno y no peta`
`02:06.39`	`_H_`	`como elijo el codec??`
`02:06.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`_H_ de todas formas con mplayer/mencoder puedes siempre volver a recodificarlo (utiliza acidrip) al formato y tamaño que quieras ;))`
`02:06.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`en donde pones "render", te sale una lista`
`02:06.52`	`_H_`	`interesante eso`
`02:06.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`control + r creo`
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`02:16.12`	`_H_`	`uffff`
`02:16.18`	`_H_`	`esto va de mal en peor`
`02:16.23`	`_H_`	`y tambien se cuelga`
`02:16.26`	`_H_`	`:)`
`02:16.47`	`_H_`	`si fuese fumador saldria a tomerme un pitillo`
`02:17.00`	`_H_`	`como soy adicto a pc, ire a ver si tengo algun email`
`02:17.18`	`Duvelr`	`yo lo puedo hacer por ti _H_ ;)`
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`02:20.17`	`daurn\|afk`	`hi all`
`02:20.39`	`Duvelr`	`hi daurn\|afk !`
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`02:21.40`	`_H_`	`que inocente soy, pense que queria hacer los videos por mi XPPPP`
`02:21.42`	`_H_`	`el cabroncete se ofrecia a furmar por mi!! XDDDDDDDDDDDDd`
`02:21.56`	`daurn\|afk`	`what exactly IS elive?`
`02:22.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`02:22.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt Elive`
`02:22.11`	`apt`	`i heard elive is a livecd (installable) project and a perfectly distro based in debian and have only the enlightenment WM for managing all the system, utilities, libs, instalation, programation in EFL... the best distro in the world for this moments :)`
`02:22.32`	`daurnimator`	`fair eonough`
`02:22.34`	`daurnimator`	`;)`
`02:22.35`	`Duvelr`	`xD`
`02:22.39`	`quidam-`	`the best distro in the world for this moments <- Thanatermesis que modesto eres`
`02:23.09`	`roxville`	`:D`
`02:23.14`	`_H_`	`world?`
`02:23.25`	`_H_`	`did u checked the rest of the universe?`
`02:23.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`quidam- O:D`
`02:23.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`_H_ oh yeah`
`02:23.38`	`Duvelr`	`"honesto" quisiste decir quidam?`
`02:23.42`	`quidam-`	`roxville, HI, the Ulanix text look great with the bird :D`
`02:23.48`	`quidam-`	`Duvelr, ¬¬`
`02:23.58`	`quidam-`	`el tio es super modesto y tu le das apoyo moral xD`
`02:24.06`	`roxville`	`quidam-, cool!`
`02:24.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`02:24.12`	`roxville`	`i have one more...`
`02:24.26`	`quidam-`	`roxville, :O, NICE¡`
`02:24.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`quidam- claro, hay que derrotar el imperio de gates ;)`
`02:24.43`	`daurnimator`	`so`
`02:24.44`	`daurnimator`	`um`
`02:24.48`	`quidam-`	`Thanatermesis, xD`
`02:24.56`	`daurnimator`	`where can i download "the best distro in the world for this moments"?`
`02:24.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`daurnimator what you have think to Elive is ?`
`02:25.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`daurnimator in elivecd.org , of course :D`
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`02:25.23`	`daurnimator`	`oh`
`02:25.24`	`daurnimator`	`wait`
`02:25.28`	`daurnimator`	`i was in the wiji`
`02:25.29`	`daurnimator`	`wiki`
`02:25.31`	`daurnimator`	`heh`
`02:25.34`	`roxville`	`quidam-, i really like this one... it's a mistake... but the colors are really cool http://71.204.226.14/public_html/misc/ulanix8.png`
`02:25.37`	`daurnimator`	`theres no link out of there`
`02:25.45`	`Duvelr`	`ok, yo se que quidam tiene "entre manos" la mejor.... pero como no es publica de momento..... xD`
`02:25.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`daurnimator "where" you have found Elive ?`
`02:25.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`know*`
`02:25.56`	`roxville`	`http://71.204.226.14/public_html/misc/ulanix9.png quidam- this is not bad either`
`02:26.09`	`daurnimator`	`i whois alot of people`
`02:26.16`	`daurnimator`	`just join their channels`
`02:26.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`nice :)`
`02:26.48`	`roxville`	`"Whois me again, and i'll kill you"... hmmm... :)`
`02:27.01`	`daurnimator`	`XD`
`02:27.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`daurnimator do you say to "the wiki (wiki.elivecd.org) not has link to the Elive site, correct ?`
`02:27.10`	`daurnimator`	`yeah`
`02:27.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok... i add it :)`
`02:27.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh... what words looks good for write ?`
`02:27.45`	`quidam-`	`roxville, i like it, i try whit this logos and the bird for the syslinux image :D`
`02:28.07`	`daurnimator`	`maybe "Home"`
`02:28.07`	`roxville`	`yep :)`
`02:28.07`	`daurnimator`	`:P`
`02:28.22`	`Kitanis`	`Hello Everyone`
`02:28.55`	`quidam-`	`roxville, thanks :-D`
`02:29.07`	`daurnimator`	`"We have now some support for SATA hard disks included on the installer."`
`02:29.14`	`daurnimator`	`will all sata hdds work?`
`02:29.21`	`daurnimator`	`cause thats basically all i have`
`02:29.21`	`daurnimator`	`:S`
`02:29.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`daurnimator mmh, i recomends you to wait the future 0.5 release, is a lot better ;)`
`02:29.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`and has totally sata support`
`02:29.49`	`roxville`	`quidam-, hombre... de nada :)`
`02:29.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`anyways.. if you like to try a "developement version" i think to tomorrow are build a new`
`02:30.30`	`roxville`	`quidam-, if they like it... just send me a bottle of the best venezuelan rum :)`
`02:31.10`	`daurnimator`	`Thanatermesis: are cd covers always going to be the same?`
`02:31.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Main_Page <--- better ? :)`
`02:31.18`	`daurnimator`	`or will they have a version number on them?`
`02:31.25`	`quidam-`	`roxville, lol xD`
`02:31.44`	`daurnimator`	`Thanatermesis: that goes to downloads`
`02:31.45`	`daurnimator`	`lol`
`02:31.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`daurnimator you can posible to download the images in SVG format for anything of you like... but not exist actually "CDs of Elive in selling" with it :/`
`02:32.46`	`daurnimator`	`..`
`02:32.50`	`daurnimator`	`please say sagain`
`02:33.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`you can download the images of the covers, for print it or anything`
`02:34.54`	`daurnimator`	`do they have the version numbers on them?`
`02:34.59`	`roxville`	`but you can't BUY a elive cd`
`02:35.21`	`roxville`	`nope, you have to put that on yourself`
`02:35.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville yeah... this is what Elive needs :/`
`02:35.49`	`daurnimator`	`its not hard to burn cds`
`02:35.49`	`daurnimator`	`lol`
`02:38.50`	`daurnimator`	`so`
`02:38.57`	`daurnimator`	`what packages come with elive?`
`02:40.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`02:40.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`you have it on the downloads page, "stable" menu... but is a little "hide", search the word "packages"`
`02:40.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`is a link with a list of packages`
`02:42.01`	`daurnimator`	`lol`
`02:42.14`	`daurnimator`	`in wiki`
`02:42.20`	`daurnimator`	`or normal`
`02:43.02`	`daurnimator`	`also`
`02:43.10`	`daurnimator`	`you need a link to the wiki in the main menu`
`02:43.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`"documentation" menu`
`02:44.38`	`daurnimator`	`[12:40:12] <Thanatermesis> you have it on the downloads page, "stable" menu... but is a little "hide", search the word "packages"`
`02:44.39`	`daurnimator`	`[12:40:20] <Thanatermesis> is a link with a list of packages`
`02:44.42`	`daurnimator`	`i couldn't find it`
`02:45.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah`
`02:45.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://elivecd.org/gb/Packages_0.4/`
`02:45.41`	`daurnimator`	`Thanatermesis: that documentation link on the main page needs to go straight to the wiki`
`02:45.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`daurnimator http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/`
`02:45.52`	`daurnimator`	`not have a page between`
`02:45.53`	`daurnimator`	`:S`
`02:46.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es that documentation link on the main page needs to go straight to the wiki`
`02:46.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes... i know`
`02:46.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 are looking about this ;)`
`02:47.39`	`daurnimator`	`does elive have an irc client by default?`
`02:47.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`xchat`
`02:48.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/_previews/elpanel-1.jpg.html`
`02:48.29`	`daurnimator`	`haha`
`02:48.30`	`daurnimator`	`http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/_previews/theme-japan-2.jpg.html`
`02:48.37`	`daurnimator`	`picture has "japan 2005"`
`02:48.47`	`daurnimator`	`comment underneath says "japan 2007"`
`02:49.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`old background ;)`
`02:54.10`	`daurnimator`	`hmm`
`02:54.19`	`daurnimator`	`wtf is a .svg file?`
`02:55.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt svg`
`02:55.34`	`apt`	`somebody said svg was Scalable Vector Graphics, an up and comming vector graphics format backed by many graphics companies. More info available at http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/`
`02:56.05`	`daurnimator`	`wtf can i open them with?`
`02:56.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`a image to you can posible to redimension it all of you like, and don't are pixelized :)`
`02:56.15`	`daurnimator`	`i tried adobe illustartor`
`02:56.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh...`
`02:56.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`i don't have idea about windows`
`02:56.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`maybe you found a version of "inkscape" for windows`
`02:56.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt inkscape`
`02:56.50`	`apt`	`extra, extra, read all about it, inkscape is an open source SVG editor with capabilities similar to Illustrator, CorelDraw, Visio, etc. See http://www.inkscape.org/.`
`02:58.14`	`daurnimator`	`lol`
`02:59.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt good bot :)`
`02:59.23`	`apt`	`:), Thanatermesis`
`02:59.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt cook a pizza for me`
`02:59.38`	`apt`	`ACTION puts on his apron and fires up the stove. "Your a pizza will be ready in a little while, thanatermesis."`
`02:59.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt thanks :D`
`02:59.47`	`apt`	`de rien, Thanatermesis`
`03:00.37`	`daurnimator`	`lol`
`03:00.39`	`daurnimator`	`wtf`
`03:01.15`	`roxville`	`lol`
`03:01.55`	`roxville`	`apt, make me a rum and cola please?`
`03:01.56`	`apt`	make: *** No rule to make target `me a rum and cola please'. Stop.
`03:02.05`	`roxville`	`:PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP`
`03:02.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`03:02.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt give a rum and cola to roxville`
`03:02.21`	`apt`	`ACTION gives rum and cola to roxville to a`
`03:02.41`	`roxville`	`ahhhhhhhhhh.. thanks!`
`03:02.51`	`roxville`	`perfect, just the way i like it :)`
`03:03.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
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`03:58.02`	`anjoo`	`hello, again :)`
`03:58.58`	`anjoo`	`i'm tinkering on my new found distro ... heheh`
`03:59.47`	`anjoo`	`how do i arrange the order of my icons in engage?`
`04:01.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt elpanel anjoo`
`04:01.39`	`apt`	`elpanel elpanel elpanel, this is the answer to your question and the solution of all your problems, try it anjoo ;)`
`04:02.04`	`anjoo`	`ok :)`
`04:03.08`	`anjoo`	`i see now, Thanatermesis thank you.. :)`
`04:03.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`welcome :)`
`04:03.46`	`anjoo`	`btw, who are the developers of elive?`
`04:03.51`	`anjoo`	`are they here?`
`04:04.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`i think to are near`
`04:04.23`	`roxville`	`anjoo, you just talked to him :)`
`04:04.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol. shhhh`
`04:04.41`	`anjoo`	`ohh.. :)`
`04:04.55`	`roxville`	`apt, is the developer :)`
`04:04.59`	`roxville`	`the only one...`
`04:05.14`	`daurnimator`	`haha`
`04:05.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`04:05.29`	`roxville`	`ok, it's Thanatermesis :)`
`04:05.57`	`anjoo`	`i seldom talk with a developer, wow, you answers to his users.. thats great :)`
`04:06.16`	`roxville`	`yep, it's pretty cool :)`
`04:06.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`i don't like to the users has bad answers or ask things not totally corrects ;)`
`04:07.37`	`roxville`	`i dont like developers who don't speak at least spanish, french and a little english`
`04:07.55`	`roxville`	`and tarzanian, of course :)`
`04:07.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`04:08.05`	`anjoo`	`i hope, i did not ask incorrectly..`
`04:08.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`no.. you now :)`
`04:08.35`	`anjoo`	`ok..`
`04:08.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`but sometimes enter some users here... to not understand what are making and the only thing to say is "elive is bugged" (when the problem is between the chair and the keyboard)`
`04:08.54`	`roxville`	`anjoo, you are doing good :)`
`04:09.10`	`anjoo`	`:)`
`04:09.20`	`roxville`	`this is THE friendliest channel on freenode linux irc`
`04:09.51`	`anjoo`	`yes, it is.. i was here yesterday..`
`04:10.28`	`anjoo`	`this is like my second time :)`
`04:11.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`04:11.55`	`anjoo`	`when i found this distro, its like i have reach NIRVANA.. lol`
`04:12.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is good :)`
`04:12.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`and the new 0.5 systems are in fast developement actually ;)`
`04:13.00`	`roxville`	`yeah it was like that when i found elive0.3... first nirvana... and then... hell!`
`04:13.03`	`roxville`	`:D`
`04:13.08`	`pycs`	`no not just Nirvana, its the "Holy Grail" of distros :) i assure you..`
`04:13.27`	`anjoo`	`:)`
`04:13.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`LOL roxville`
`04:14.38`	`roxville`	`:D`
`04:14.59`	`roxville`	`i'm still here, though :)`
`04:17.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe`
`04:17.40`	`anjoo`	`so in 0.5 what is the new feature?`
`04:18.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`very features... but basically, all the "liveCD" system changes`
`04:18.03`	`anjoo`	`latest e17 and e16?`
`04:18.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`in a new generation of liveCDs step :)`
`04:18.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, of course, everytime using recent versions`
`04:18.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`anothers good things are a select of the "look of your Elive" in the boot, 2 diferents styles`
`04:19.00`	`anjoo`	`what is new generation? if you don't mind me asking..`
`04:22.26`	`anjoo`	`ok, did i just ask a wrong question?`
`04:23.35`	`anjoo`	`never mind.. i will look forward to the new 0.5 when its out :)`
`04:24.36`	`roxville`	`anjoo, it's not a wrong question :) elive will be based on a system called dsslive`
`04:25.22`	`roxville`	`we are testing it right now, and i think thana is about to release the next test-iso... like, tomorrow or something`
`04:25.48`	`anjoo`	`i c.. what is dsslive? is it for faster system?`
`04:25.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`im just a little busy between terminals and channels ;) the new system for Elive is a new generation for the liveCDs... the internal work not is more similar to a "liveCD system" but more similar to a "pure debian system booting from a CD"`
`04:26.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`is also more fast, yes`
`04:27.49`	`roxville`	`oh, yes... it's faster :)`
`04:28.11`	`anjoo`	`ahhh, googling it, its debian script set.. :)`
`04:28.13`	`roxville`	`how the hell that is possible i have no idea... but it is`
`04:28.52`	`roxville`	`yes, it's made by our good friend nomed`
`04:29.22`	`anjoo`	`so it can be rewritten? or remaster..?`
`04:30.54`	`anjoo`	`create your own live distribution. .. wow thats so cool..`
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`04:31.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`exact :)`
`04:32.44`	`anjoo`	`but why? i mean, it would make many variants? thereby dividing the distros audience..`
`04:33.20`	`anjoo`	`what if a disto base on elive, will be more popular than elive.. :)`
`04:34.23`	`anjoo`	`i guess, its essence of open source right?`
`04:38.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`aparently... but you need to say anytime "from where" is your thing`
`04:39.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`or graphically... this is a example http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3370/2500/1600/GNULinuxupdatedw4.0.jpg`
`04:54.11`	`roxville`	`have a good night ppl :)`
`04:54.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`good night rox`
`04:54.48`	`roxville`	`:)`
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`05:09.21`	`GPLGeek`	`Hey opera browser fixed like all of their problems...`
`05:09.27`	`GPLGeek`	`and it has bit torrent now lol`
`05:10.02`	`pycs`	`heheh.. and the widgets.. so cool`
`05:10.38`	`GPLGeek`	`Maybe I should make a bit torrent extension for firefox`
`05:10.58`	`pycs`	`that would be great..`
`05:11.23`	`pycs`	`why hasn't anyone thought of that, before you :)`
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`05:14.16`	`GPLGeek`	`i thought of it a long time ago`
`05:14.22`	`GPLGeek`	`I even had a guy who knew the torrent code`
`05:14.30`	`GPLGeek`	`then he got hit by a car`
`05:14.37`	`GPLGeek`	`broke 2 legs and an arm`
`05:14.42`	`GPLGeek`	`we never picked it up after that`
`05:14.46`	`pycs`	`oh.. how sad.. :(`
`05:14.55`	`GPLGeek`	`I thought it was funny`
`05:15.02`	`pycs`	`be careful then..`
`05:15.13`	`GPLGeek`	`his arm was only messed up for 3 weeks`
`05:16.33`	`pycs`	`watch out, a plane might crash down into your house.. :D`
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`06:09.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`sup folks`
`06:09.42`	`LinuxNIT`	`any life around here`
`06:10.40`	`LinuxNIT`	`something has happened. and it doesnt look good`
`06:10.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`all appear to be here yet nobody is`
`06:11.29`	`LinuxNIT`	`there must have been an abduction of all elive users on freenode server.....`
`06:11.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`some higer being realized the were ahead of their time...`
`06:12.20`	`LinuxNIT`	`and that they would cause chaos in the world by giving the world somthing it was not ready for.....`
`06:12.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`ENLIGTENMENT`
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`06:18.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`=)`
`06:18.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`LinuxNIT poet ? :)`
`06:18.32`	`LinuxNIT`	`no`
`06:18.35`	`LinuxNIT`	`far from it`
`06:18.37`	`damosu`	`Thanatermesis, probaste el win4lin?`
`06:18.47`	`LinuxNIT`	`cant stand writing poetry`
`06:18.57`	`LinuxNIT`	`im just procratinating`
`06:19.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu no... no suelo interesarme mucho por esas cosas, esta en mi todo list desde hace 4 años xD`
`06:19.47`	`damosu`	`dicen que tan rapido que noseque`
`06:19.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`LinuxNIT i have understand just the 50 % but sounds good :) hehe`
`06:20.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`06:20.08`	`damosu`	`pa instalar el xp ciento y pico minutos`
`06:20.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`si damosu, eso me han dicho, que es bastante mas rapido que windows`
`06:20.23`	`LinuxNIT`	`thanks`
`06:20.29`	`damosu`	`y pa arrancar lo instalado buf`
`06:20.33`	`damosu`	`po lo menos 10`
`06:21.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`y el 98 ?`
`06:23.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`err ill ping you over here roxville`
`06:23.22`	`damosu`	`el 98 no se`
`06:23.30`	`damosu`	`tengo la version pa xp`
`06:23.42`	`damosu`	`el la cosa mas lenta que puede haber`
`06:23.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`06:23.47`	`damosu`	`buff`
`06:23.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu es que tu eres masoca`
`06:24.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno... yo oi que el 98 estaba bien.. pero ni idea`
`06:24.25`	`damosu`	`y chupa cpu y memoria no veas`
`06:24.43`	`damosu`	`el procesador todo el rato al 97-98%`
`06:25.12`	`damosu`	`y +-250 megas de ram`
`06:25.22`	`damosu`	`solo pal win4lin ese`
`06:25.37`	`damosu`	`si potente es desde luego xD`
`06:26.12`	`damosu`	`y no es que hiciese nada raro yo`
`06:26.23`	`damosu`	`segui lo que pone en la documentacion`
`06:27.13`	`damosu`	`ala pos a borrar`
`06:28.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso eso... a eliminar virus :P`
`06:28.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`de todas fromas, creo que oi que con el 98 iba mejor`
`06:29.05`	`damosu`	`tengo que mirar a ver`
`06:29.15`	`damosu`	`pero dudo que supere al qemu`
`06:29.24`	`damosu`	`viendo el resultado de esto`
`06:30.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`06:30.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno pero tio`
`06:30.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`el qemu emula una maquina completa`
`06:30.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`hay mucha diferencia, eh ?`
`06:31.03`	`damosu`	`y el win4lin no?`
`06:31.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`no se`
`06:31.19`	`damosu`	`aparte deja el disco lleno de porqueria`
`06:31.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`la verdad es que no se como funciona`
`06:31.49`	`damosu`	`no se donde me metio cosas por ahi pero tengo 200 megas a mas`
`06:31.57`	`damosu`	`despues de desinstalar`
`06:32.08`	`damosu`	`pq esa es otra`
`06:32.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`06:32.24`	`damosu`	`copia el contenido del cd de instalacion al disco duro`
`06:32.32`	`damosu`	`completito`
`06:32.49`	`damosu`	`y despues instala y no se que mas`
`06:33.01`	`damosu`	`osea instalacion de win 2 gigas`
`06:33.14`	`damosu`	`mas porquerias varias del win4li otros 2`
`06:39.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`06:40.15`	`damosu`	`/dev/pts/1:~# ls -l /.m6rE`
`06:40.15`	`damosu`	`-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-04-30 05:40 /.m6rE`
`06:40.21`	`damosu`	`y ese fichero?`
`06:40.32`	`damosu`	`la de cosas que tendre por ahi perdidas`
`06:40.42`	`damosu`	`pq tengo muchos megas a mas`
`06:40.59`	`damosu`	`decia 200 pq me faltaba borrar una cosa`
`06:41.09`	`damosu`	`pero ni con esas`
`06:41.16`	`damosu`	`debo de tener 500 a mas`
`06:41.39`	`damosu`	`como busco algo por fecha?`
`06:41.55`	`damosu`	`ficheros modificados de tal a tal hora`
`06:41.58`	`damosu`	`sabes?`
`06:43.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`con find`
`06:43.10`	`damosu`	`toy leyendo el man a ver`
`06:43.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`tiene buenas busquedas por fecha`
`06:43.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`RTFM :D`
`06:43.30`	`damosu`	`xD`
`06:45.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`y yo que me queria acostar pronto porque la ultima vez dormí 2 horas... ¬¬`
`06:45.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`creo que e llegado a un punto que e perdido totalmente la nocion del sueño xD`
`06:46.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`alomejos me paso 3 dias sin dormir y tan pancho, como en un mismo dia me siento que debo de dormir 2 veces porque me siento "cansado" xD`
`06:46.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`vaya plan`
`06:46.29`	`damosu`	`xD`
`06:46.46`	`damosu`	`tienes que pillar una costumbre`
`06:46.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu ves al pesado del dragon de #debian-es ? sabes lo mas gracioso ? no esta en debian... sino en fedora xD`
`06:46.54`	`damosu`	`levantarte a una hora y acostarte a otra`
`06:47.14`	`damosu`	`el Dragon?`
`06:47.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya... eso pretendia hacer "hoy" me dije que como dormí solo 2 horas... me acostaría pronto por la noche asi "conseguiria dormir" xD y podria levatarme pronto por las mañanas como las personas :D y ya me ves aqui a las nueve de la mañana aun liado xDDDD`
`06:47.53`	`damosu`	`* [Dragon] (n=john@116.73-136-217.adsl.skynet.be): John`
`06:48.00`	`damosu`	`es paisano tuyo`
`06:48.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, el dragon ese`
`06:48.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya xD`
`06:48.31`	`damosu`	`mira el metodo es`
`06:48.42`	`damosu`	`a la hora de dormir botella de wisky`
`06:48.55`	`damosu`	`y a la de levantarse de cocacola`
`06:49.02`	`damosu`	`y arreglao xD`
`06:52.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDDD`
`06:52.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues no te creas...`
`06:52.37`	`damosu`	`/home/david/My Documents !!!`
`06:52.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`que muchas veces me tengo que tomar algo de alcohol para dormirme`
`06:52.46`	`damosu`	`que hace eso ahi`
`06:52.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`un martini rojo por ejemplo que es lo que mas tengo xD`
`06:52.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu win :D`
`06:52.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`06:53.03`	`damosu`	`Thanatermesis, si bueno yo tmb`
`06:53.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`puffff, en tu home ? osea, que te convirtió "literalmente" tu linux en un win ? xDDD`
`06:53.37`	`damosu`	`xD`
`06:53.40`	`damosu`	`casi casi`
`06:53.49`	`damosu`	`metio mierda por todos los laos`
`06:54.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`estaria wapo que el bot pudiera hablar "por alguien" en el canal... por ejemplo que le soltase al dragon "esto no es #fedora-es" xD`
`06:54.21`	`damosu`	`pasa que creo que tengo megas de mas pq el sistema de ficheros esta fragmentado`
`06:54.30`	`damosu`	`no pq me dejase nada por ahi`
`06:54.52`	`damosu`	`aunque ficheritos dejo algunos`
`06:57.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`fragmentado ? xDDDDDDDDDD`
`06:57.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso de los fragmentos solo esta en windows... tan mal te a dejado tu linux ?x D`
`06:57.23`	`damosu`	`que va`
`06:57.30`	`damosu`	`reiserfs tmb se fragmenta`
`06:57.34`	`damosu`	`y mucho`
`06:57.49`	`damosu`	`al menos el espacio disponible`
`06:58.21`	`damosu`	`puede que no merme la velocidad pero el espacio si`
`06:58.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah si ? o_O'`
`06:58.56`	`damosu`	`haces una prueba`
`06:59.19`	`damosu`	lo que hago yo de tar cf - `cat lista.txt` \| (cd /nuevo ; tar xpf -)
`06:59.30`	`damosu`	`pa cambiar datos de una particion a otra`
`06:59.48`	`damosu`	`pos pasas todo y antes ocupaba 3 gigas`
`06:59.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`hum`
`06:59.54`	`damosu`	`y el resultado 2.5`
`07:00.12`	`damosu`	`http://pedroreina.net/consejos/cdd.php`
`07:00.27`	`damosu`	`y cuanto mas tiempo pasa mas espacio pierdes`
`07:00.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo buscando el otro dia el famoso comando del tar tuberizado de alan cox y tu no me dices nada... xD`
`07:00.45`	`damosu`	`xD`
`07:00.48`	`damosu`	`yo que sabia`
`07:01.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`has probado con XFS ?`
`07:01.08`	`damosu`	`nop`
`07:01.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues haz la prueba ;)`
`07:01.21`	`damosu`	`solo use ext2 3 y reiser`
`07:01.29`	`damosu`	`que le pas a ese sistema`
`07:01.34`	`damosu`	`es mu bueno?`
`07:01.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`si no fuera porque no acepta el /boot en ella, lo recomendaria en el instalador de Elive directamente xD (en vez de reiser)`
`07:01.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`que si es bueno ? xD`
`07:01.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`se nota que no lo conoes :D`
`07:01.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt xfs`
`07:02.00`	`apt`	`it has been said that xfs is the better journaling file-system to all the times http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Filesystems-HOWTO.html`
`07:02.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`toma ya xD`
`07:02.11`	`damosu`	`bue`
`07:02.14`	`damosu`	`no sera pa tanto`
`07:02.17`	`damosu`	`a ver`
`07:02.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`que no ? xD`
`07:02.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`echale un vistazo a ese link`
`07:02.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`leete sus caracteristicas, que flipes un rato xD`
`07:02.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Filesystems-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.32`
`07:03.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`directo`
`07:03.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`XFS(tm) is the next-generation file system for Silicon Graphics[TM] systems, from desktop workstations to supercomputers. XFS provides full 64-bit file capabilities that scale easily to handle extremely large files and file systems that grow to 1 terabyte.`
`07:03.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`XFS is designed for a very high performance; sustained throughput in excess of 300MB per second has been demonstrated on CHALLENGE systems.`
`07:04.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`XFS directories have been tested with up to 32 million files in a single directory.`
`07:04.09`	`damosu`	`usas ese sistema de ficheros tu?`
`07:04.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`Should the system crash before the updates are done they can be recreated using the log and updated as intended.`
`07:05.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`XFS tries to position the inodes close to the files and directories they reference. Very small files, such as symbolic links and some directories, are stored as part of the inode, to increase performance and save space.`
`07:05.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`of course lo uso :)`
`07:05.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`y de velocidad ya no te digo xD`
`07:05.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`es mucho mas rapido que cualquier otro`
`07:05.31`	`damosu`	`has usasdo reiser?`
`07:05.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`hasta un 30 %`
`07:05.44`	`damosu`	`pa comparar me refiero`
`07:05.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, e usado toda la vida reiserfs... bueno, de hecho mi / es reiser y todos los demas son XFS`
`07:06.09`	`damosu`	`y se nota mucho la diferencia?`
`07:06.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`hombre...`
`07:06.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo es que no se como notarlo xD`
`07:06.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`tengo tantas cosas funcionando aqui...`
`07:06.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`tantos subidones y bajadas...`
`07:06.47`	`damosu`	`bueno yo note el cambio de ext3 a reiser`
`07:06.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`que no se ni "como" es el estado normal de mi maquina xDDDD`
`07:06.53`	`damosu`	`un poquillo`
`07:07.14`	`damosu`	`te ha dado problemas alguna vez el xfs?`
`07:07.41`	`damosu`	`pq estoy pa ponerlo pero ya xD`
`07:08.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`problemas el XFS ? nunca el mas minimo`
`07:08.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`ostia pues espera, que te voy a mostrar algo ya que vas a flipar, que encontré eso de casualidad del XFS... xD`
`07:09.18`	`damosu`	`y no admite /boot?`
`07:09.23`	`damosu`	`pq por el grub?`
`07:09.32`	`damosu`	`que no le vale ese sistema?`
`07:09.35`	`damosu`	`o pq`
`07:09.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`no lo se bien`
`07:09.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`el kernel o grub o quien sea...`
`07:09.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`no saben leerlos "antes de arrancar el kernel"`
`07:10.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`le metes un /boot externo ylistos`
`07:10.22`	`damosu`	`bueno por ahora a ver si paso el home`
`07:10.25`	`damosu`	`despues miro`
`07:11.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`si haces benchmarks ya me diras los resultados ;)`
`07:11.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`mira esto damosu`
`07:11.30`	`damosu`	`que mierda`
`07:11.32`	`damosu`	`/etc/rc2.d/S77Win4LinPro`
`07:11.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDD`
`07:11.42`	`damosu`	`y eso que lo desinstale`
`07:11.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`mira esto damosu`
`07:11.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`man xfs_freeze:`
`07:11.52`	`damosu`	`:S`
`07:11.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`xfs_freeze(8) xfs_freeze(8)`
`07:11.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`NAME`
`07:11.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:12.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`DESCRIPTION`
`07:12.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:12.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:12.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`sabes lo que quieres decir eso ?`
`07:12.23`	`damosu`	`pos`
`07:12.30`	`damosu`	`si`
`07:12.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`mira`
`07:12.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`lee bien atentamente esto`
`07:12.35`	`damosu`	`pero no entiendo xD`
`07:12.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:12.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:12.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:12.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:12.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:12.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:12.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:13.05`	`damosu`	`mmm`
`07:13.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`entiendes ?`
`07:13.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`congelas tu sistema, y haces que se monte su escritura en otra parte`
`07:13.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`todo loq ue se escriba a partir de ese momento no se escribirá en tu sistema, sino en "ese punto de montaje"`
`07:13.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`07:13.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`flipante, no ?`
`07:13.49`	`damosu`	`lol`
`07:13.55`	`damosu`	`po zi`
`07:14.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`XFS pawa ? =)`
`07:14.11`	`damosu`	`es bueno pal win4lin el xfs`
`07:14.15`	`damosu`	`xD`
`07:14.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`seria un buen ejemplo xDDDDDD`
`07:14.24`	`damosu`	`joer`
`07:14.29`	`damosu`	`y eso que lo desinstale`
`07:14.34`	`damosu`	`menuda porqueria`
`07:14.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`07:15.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`XFS provides full 64-bit file capabilities that scale easily to handle extremely large files and file systems that grow to 1 terabyte.`
`07:15.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh.... ext* que tenia ? 2 gb ? xD`
`07:17.15`	`damosu`	`pos debe ser`
`07:20.46`	`damosu`	`df`
`07:20.52`	`damosu`	`xD`
`07:21.00`	`damosu`	`/dev/hda4 xfs 9,4G 272K 9,4G 1% /media/cdrom0`
`07:21.07`	`damosu`	`estoy en proceso ya`
`07:23.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`07:23.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`otro tambien muy bueno pero que nunca presté atencion, es el JFS`
`07:25.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`en ese howto deben de haber filesystems muy paranoicos xD`
`07:27.36`	`damosu`	`y rarisimos`
`07:27.46`	`damosu`	`pq hay nombre que me suenan a chino`
`07:28.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`GPFS attempts to continue operation across various node and component failures assuming that sufficient resources exist to continue.`
`07:29.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`07:29.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu`
`07:29.46`	`damosu`	`dime`
`07:29.49`	`damosu`	`ese que hace`
`07:29.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`lee ese trozo xD`
`07:29.56`	`damosu`	`tira palante a saco`
`07:30.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`07:30.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`9.9 FFS - BSD Fast filesystem`
`07:34.14`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, test2.iso en edevelop nomed`
`07:34.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
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`08:01.29`	`damosu`	`ya tengo el home en xfs`
`08:01.35`	`damosu`	`:P`
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`10:29.04`	`rosso75`	`hallo`
`10:32.26`	`rosso75`	`i have some problem's whith the kernel 2.6.15, someone can help me???`
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`11:03.09`	`cornelius[cz]`	`Thanatermesis: ping`
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`11:39.44`	`cornelius[cz]`	`\later tell Thanatermesis Hi buddy, I've done modifications you requested. You can download files(800x600., 1024x768.,progresbar, wallpaper) from the usual address for elive mockups on my server. Also you have a mail ;)`
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`12:03.15`	`bodha`	`coucou, bonjour a tous`
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`12:48.47`	`dats`	`buenos dias`
`12:49.23`	`wasynyt`	`good day`
`12:50.03`	`simonpca`	`hi dats`
`12:52.15`	`bodha`	`simonpca: ;-)`
`12:52.17`	`dats`	`hi`
`12:52.20`	`dats`	`i left to eat something`
`12:52.21`	`dats`	`bye`
`12:52.28`	`wasynyt`	`bye`
`12:52.28`	`simonpca`	`bodha: ^^`
`12:52.32`	`simonpca`	`bye`
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`13:36.21`	`roxville`	`wasynyt, are you gonna get scaringly drunk tonight, like the rest of finland and sweden?`
`13:38.12`	`roxville`	`:)`
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`14:46.14`	`primate`	`anyone know how to correctly change the time in gkrellm?`
`14:46.31`	`primate`	`it doesnt seem to have an option ?`
`14:48.48`	`wasynyt`	`hmm you have tried to set up you rtime correctly`
`14:49.04`	`wasynyt`	`or do yoi know that the time shown in elive is correct`
`14:49.06`	`wasynyt`	`?`
`14:49.24`	`wasynyt`	`if not use elpanel to configure time correctly`
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`14:58.14`	`primate`	`thx elpanel helped, but i need to install the internet synchronization mod, hrmm, at least i have the approximate time`
`14:58.23`	`Elive_user`	`hi,I've installed E16, then E17 and now I'd like to upgrade KERNEL via apt-get.. I've downloaded kernel image 2.6.15, compiled, but after restart, still have 2.6.12`
`14:58.38`	`Elive_user`	`mean not live,but HDD install`
`14:59.16`	`primate`	`u read the docs on apt get at the elive site?`
`14:59.35`	`Elive_user`	`yes, everything worked, but with no success`
`14:59.41`	`primate`	`damn, sorry`
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`15:04.53`	`symphonic`	`hello`
`15:05.00`	`primate`	`hia`
`15:06.24`	`symphonic`	`primate: how do i set the sound in elive?`
`15:06.31`	`symphonic`	`like it was working`
`15:06.35`	`primate`	`use the elpanel`
`15:06.36`	`symphonic`	`and now there's no sound`
`15:07.22`	`primate`	`admin config, then sound config`
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`15:07.43`	`primate`	`click the keys, then the speakers, thats should help?`
`15:07.52`	`primate`	`its so easy with that elpanel thing, :D`
`15:08.31`	`symphonic`	`ohh`
`15:08.37`	`symphonic`	`i forgot all about elpanel`
`15:09.09`	`primate`	`haha later, good luck`
`15:10.06`	`symphonic`	`thanks`
`15:10.08`	`symphonic`	`it worked`
`15:10.09`	`symphonic`	`d=)`
`15:10.16`	`symphonic`	`time to nano SOUND`
`15:11.48`	`primate`	`;)`
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`15:17.09`	`dererk`	`Morning everyone.`
`15:19.01`	`symphonic`	`morning dererk`
`15:19.43`	`dererk`	`symphonic, Welcome`
`15:20.22`	`dererk`	`symphonic, Did you solve your sound issue?`
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`15:24.04`	`symphonic`	`yep`
`15:24.07`	`symphonic`	`elpanel is great`
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`15:32.01`	`damosu`	`hola Thanatermesis`
`15:32.14`	`damosu`	`toy mirando a ver si migro / a xfs`
`15:32.57`	`damosu`	`por cierto el man del mount tmb le pasa que el español explica menos cosas`
`15:33.27`	`dererk`	`Hola damosu`
`15:33.34`	`damosu`	`hola dererk`
`15:33.43`	`dererk`	`damosu, Xfs es interesante, pero no lo puedes poner al raiz`
`15:33.56`	`damosu`	`pos yo por ahora lo puse`
`15:33.57`	`dererk`	`mejor, dicho, yo no lo pondria en el raiz`
`15:34.01`	`damosu`	`y me arranco`
`15:34.08`	`damosu`	`solo que como solo lectura`
`15:34.09`	`dererk`	`damosu, Si, pero solo funciona con Lilo`
`15:34.14`	`damosu`	`con grub`
`15:34.18`	`dererk`	`Con grub?`
`15:34.27`	`damosu`	`arranco y monto las particiones`
`15:34.34`	`dererk`	`umm`
`15:34.42`	`damosu`	`lo que pas qe solo lectura`
`15:34.50`	`dererk`	`crei leer en un lado que solo funciona con lilo`
`15:34.51`	`damosu`	`no se si es alguna opcion del fstab`
`15:35.01`	`damosu`	`yo tmb lei`
`15:35.09`	`damosu`	`lo que pas que...`
`15:35.11`	`damosu`	`no se`
`15:35.13`	`damosu`	`xD`
`15:35.19`	`damosu`	`cuando acabe te cuento`
`15:35.29`	`damosu`	`pq tengo un trapicheo con el grub`
`15:36.11`	`dererk`	`Pues, yo lo use en el / pero despues de un corte de luz, tuve que rebuildear la tabla de archivos`
`15:36.25`	`damosu`	`juas`
`15:36.31`	`damosu`	`pos valla mierda`
`15:36.34`	`dererk`	`asi que tengo Reiser (proximamente reiser4) en el / y Xfs en el home`
`15:37.11`	`dererk`	`Igual en todo sentido me parece que Reiser es mejor`
`15:38.01`	`damosu`	`no se`
`15:38.14`	`damosu`	`yo le hice unos tests y va mas rapido el xfs`
`15:38.39`	`dererk`	`si, claro, por eso se llama "Xfs" de Speed File system... pero me parece mejor Reiser`
`15:38.39`	`damosu`	`bueno me toca reboot`
`15:38.45`	`dererk`	`damosu, good luck`
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`15:41.56`	`damosu`	`S.ficheros Tipo Tamaño Usado Disp Uso% Montado en`
`15:41.58`	`damosu`	`/dev/hda4 xfs 9,4G 1,7G 7,7G 18% /`
`15:42.18`	`damosu`	`problemilla con el grub ya`
`15:42.25`	`damosu`	`/dev/pts/0:~# grub-install /dev/hda`
`15:42.25`	`damosu`	`The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.`
`15:42.45`	`damosu`	`pq el grub lo tenia instalado desde la particion reiser`
`15:42.58`	`damosu`	`pero al instalardo desde aqui pasa esto`
`15:43.41`	`dererk`	`Eso es lo mismo que me decia`
`15:44.25`	`damosu`	`y ahora el chroot me suelta esto`
`15:44.25`	`damosu`	`xfs_freeze: specified file ["/boot/grub"] is not on an XFS filesystem`
`15:44.44`	`damosu`	`intente instalar desde chroot en la particion antigua`
`15:45.05`	`dererk`	`damosu, Bootear desde Grub con una Xfs no es lo mismo que que Grub se instale en un Xfs`
`15:45.21`	`dererk`	`damosu, Yo me referia a lo segundo, creo que no me di a entender bien`
`15:46.06`	`damosu`	no es un `tty':~# grub-install /dev/hda
`15:46.07`	`damosu`	`Due to a bug in xfs_freeze, the following command might produce a segmentation`
`15:46.07`	`damosu`	`fault when /boot/grub is not in an XFS filesystem. This error is harmless and`
`15:46.07`	`damosu`	`can be ignored.`
`15:46.23`	`damosu`	`otia`
`15:46.42`	`damosu`	nunca me habia fijado que el chroot pone eso de no es un `tty'
`15:46.42`	`dererk`	`damosu, mejor sigue con Reiser xD`
`15:46.56`	`damosu`	`paso`
`15:47.35`	`dererk`	`Y que usaras? ext2? XD`
`15:50.03`	`damosu`	`xfs`
`15:50.13`	`dererk`	`naaa`
`15:50.22`	`dererk`	`como lo instalaras? XD`
`15:50.34`	`damosu`	`bueno por ahora tengo todo en xfs`
`15:50.43`	`damosu`	`y aranque con el grub ;)`
`15:50.46`	`dererk`	`bien dicho`
`15:50.50`	`dererk`	`Por AHORA`
`15:50.51`	`dererk`	`xD`
`15:50.56`	`dererk`	`espera que te pase lo que a mi xD`
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`17:17.22`	`wasynyt`	`good evening everyone`
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`17:21.25`	`Skovanden`	`apt seen Gwildor`
`17:21.30`	`apt`	`gwildor is currently on #elive (1d 19h 51m 45s), last said: 'http://gorillamask.net/mariolive.shtml'.`
`17:31.26`	`damosu`	`Thanatermesis_, tas?`
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`18:26.43`	`Thanatermesis_`	`oye _H_`
`18:26.46`	`Thanatermesis_`	`estas ?`
`18:29.45`	`damosu`	`Thanatermesis, me respondio el de las manpages`
`18:29.52`	`damosu`	`I would assume that the Spanish version is not up-to-date with the`
`18:29.52`	`damosu`	`English original. Unfortunately this often happens with documentation`
`18:29.52`	`damosu`	`and user-input is quite helpful pointing this out.`
`18:30.01`	`damosu`	`y a xuparla`
`18:30.03`	`damosu`	`xD`
`18:30.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`18:30.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`entonces ?`
`18:30.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`la dejan asi ¿?`
`18:30.32`	`damosu`	`sip`
`18:30.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`18:30.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero a ver`
`18:30.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso no puede ser xD`
`18:30.59`	`damosu`	`y por cierto pasa en un monton de paginas`
`18:30.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`vale que no esté al dia pero macho...`
`18:31.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`uf`
`18:31.06`	`damosu`	`me estube fijando`
`18:31.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso es un escandalo xD`
`18:31.18`	`damosu`	`po zi`
`18:31.29`	`damosu`	`pero mas vale eso que nada`
`18:31.46`	`damosu`	`lo que pas que deberian informar de eso`
`18:31.56`	`damosu`	`ponerlo a la vista`
`18:32.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`Los siguientes paquetes se ELIMINARÁN:`
`18:32.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:32.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`0 actualizados, 0 se instalarán, 3 para eliminar y 0 no actualizados.`
`18:32.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`Necesito descargar 0B de archivos.`
`18:32.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`Se liberarán 15,5MB después de desempaquetar.`
`18:32.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`¿Desea continuar [S/n]?`
`18:32.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`(Leyendo la base de datos ...`
`18:32.09`	`damosu`	`xD`
`18:32.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`que mas vale eso que nada ? y una mierda`
`18:32.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`prefiero comerme la cabeza con mi ingles tarzanico y encontrar lo que busco... que ver "que lo que busco no existe"`
`18:32.56`	`damosu`	`hombre asi te comes menos el tarro`
`18:33.00`	`damosu`	`lees la inglesa`
`18:33.11`	`damosu`	`y si algo no entiendes miras la española`
`18:33.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu hacemos un ataque de "features request" diciendo "es que en el man no sale... asi que logicamente, el feature no existe para los usuarios españoles"`
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`18:33.36`	`damosu`	`si no?`
`18:33.45`	`damosu`	`no van a mandar a la mierda`
`18:33.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`demasiado tarde.. ya no tengo manes ni en castellano ni en ingles... a ver ahora lo que hacen "los demas"`
`18:33.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`esto no puede ser damosu, habria que hacer algo`
`18:34.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`o que pongan la parte que falta, en ingles :P`
`18:34.03`	`damosu`	`poner una bomba?`
`18:34.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`que es como normalemnte funcionan las cosas`
`18:34.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`y los sites web`
`18:34.15`	`damosu`	`eso si estaria bien`
`18:34.23`	`damosu`	`poner el cacho que falta`
`18:34.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`y asi motivaría a la gente a colaborar con las traducciones`
`18:36.14`	`damosu`	`Martin Schulze`
`18:36.14`	`damosu`	`<joey@infodrom.org>`
`18:36.20`	`damosu`	`ese me respondio`
`18:36.25`	`damosu`	`que no se quien es`
`18:36.30`	`damosu`	`sera el mantenedor`
`18:37.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues vuelvele a responder, explicale un ejemplo real, "un usuario me dijo que la opcion -f no existia, y no pude ni creerlo, es mas, recordé haberla unsado varias veces, me lei el manual y vi qu eno existia, no consegui comprender que pasaba y perdí todo un dia entero para darme cuenta del BUG (porque es un bug)"`
`18:39.10`	`damosu`	`If you need to reach me, the best way is to send a mail to joey@infodrom.north.de. Another way which I prefer is to send me a private or channel message on IRC. My nickname is - for sure - Joey (or JoeyGS if I'm at work). On IRCnet I'm usually sitting on #LinuxGER and on #North.DE. On LISC you can find me on #Debian which is linked to IRCnet, Efnet and Undernet via a crosslink bot.`
`18:39.14`	`damosu`	`mmm`
`18:39.21`	`damosu`	`no me va a hacer ni caso`
`18:39.31`	`damosu`	`ya deben estar acostumbrados a eso`
`18:39.41`	`damosu`	`pq esto lleva asi toda la vida`
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`18:41.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues justamente... no deberia de seguir :P`
`18:44.25`	`egrub`	`Thanatermesis: no es el fin del mundo.`
`18:44.40`	`egrub`	`Thanatermesis: siempre te apoyamos. :)`
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`18:49.10`	`Elive_user`	`I just installed elive from the cd to hard disk. I have two questions, is it normal for the first kernel option in grub to panic and how can I make my desktop e17 instead of e16`
`18:53.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD egrub`
`18:53.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user you have the selector of the WM in entrance`
`18:53.53`	`Elive_user`	`weird, i didn't`
`18:54.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`in the bottom`
`18:54.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`you have a image`
`18:54.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`with the letters "e16"`
`18:55.19`	`Elive_user`	`ahh I see`
`18:55.22`	`Elive_user`	`the elive ctrl panel`
`18:58.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh.. no`
`18:58.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`in entrance`
`18:58.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`the login manager for the graphical syste`
`18:58.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`the login manager for the graphical system`
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`18:59.01`	`Elive_user`	`oh, I had no login manager`
`18:59.25`	`Elive_user`	`it booted into a black background with pager and an icon bar or sorts that were both broken, then asked me to configure my nic`
`18:59.32`	`Elive_user`	`I did that it dropped me to a shell`
`18:59.35`	`Elive_user`	`i startx`
`18:59.42`	`Elive_user`	`ended up in an e16 desktop`
`19:00.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`is the first boot...for finish to configure the system`
`19:00.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`after to this, entrance enter automatically`
`19:00.30`	`Elive_user`	`yes`
`19:00.37`	`Elive_user`	`ok`
`19:00.40`	`Elive_user`	`cool`
`19:00.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`sigh`
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`19:16.20`	`Elive_user`	`Thanatermesis, if I wanted to install e17 without using elive, is there a certain distribution that is more supported than others? Like plain old debian that may have packages or just grabbing cvs for any dist?`
`19:17.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`if you ask on #e, exist some packags for diferents distros, but of course, a good way is CVS... anyways... do you know to Elive IS a debian ?`
`19:18.03`	`Elive_user`	`yes`
`19:18.08`	`Elive_user`	`thats why I asked`
`19:18.23`	`Elive_user`	`I figured debian was prolly used more by de's`
`19:18.39`	`Elive_user`	`devs`
`19:19.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`dev's ? any person can be psoible to use a debian... or look Elive :)`
`19:22.15`	`Elive_user`	`Thanatermesis, thank you for your help`
`19:22.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`welcome :)`
`19:23.14`	`Elive_user`	`Thanatermesis, do you use debian?`
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`19:24.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`i use Elive :)`
`19:24.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`but.. its a debian, yes`
`19:25.35`	`Elive_user`	`Thanatermesis, ok, I just feel like I there is a bunch of clanup work to do installing from a live cd. I think Iwill just do a debian net install`
`19:25.41`	`Elive_user`	`cleanup`
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`19:30.30`	`Mutacion`	`qiero helado!!!!`
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`20:25.35`	`_H_`	`thanatermesis, una pregunta`
`20:26.12`	`_H_`	`acabo de meter en el svn todo lo que tengo en el directorio en que desarrollo el paquete debian pero he metido la pata y no he puesto una copia de seguridad`
`20:26.33`	`_H_`	`y ahora tengo un monton de .svn por todos los directorios`
`20:26.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`hum`
`20:27.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno, para empezar haz una copia de seguridad de eso que tienes ahora (por si metemos la pata ahora xD)`
`20:27.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`a donde vas sin copias de seguridad ? :)`
`20:27.11`	`_H_`	`si tio`
`20:27.58`	`_H_`	`justo habia hecho antes una copia de seguridad de un directorio pero precisamente de ese no`
`20:28.06`	`_H_`	`ya lo esta haciendo`
`20:28.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`y cuando tengas la copia de seguridad (cp -Rp del directorio), hazle: find . -type d \\.svn \| xargs rm -r`
`20:28.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso si`
`20:28.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`no estoy seguro que mi comando funcione`
`20:28.38`	`_H_`	`y si simplemente le digo al svn que lo quite todo de alla?`
`20:28.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`asi que asegurate que tengas la copia de seguridad :P`
`20:29.05`	`_H_`	`luego hablamos que me esperan para cenar`
`20:29.08`	`_H_`	`gracias`
`20:29.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`hombre espera`
`20:29.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`svn tiene otra cosa para esto`
`20:29.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`"svn export" o "svn checkout" creo que se llaman`
`20:29.26`	`_H_`	`es lo que he pensado`
`20:29.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero la verdad... no soy muy experto de svn`
`20:29.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`ese comando te sirve para borrar todos los directorios que encuentre llamados .svn, aunque no estoy seguro si funciona xD`
`20:30.13`	`_H_`	`:)`
`20:30.47`	`_H_`	`ettin dice export`
`20:30.51`	`_H_`	`nos vemos luego`
`20:33.11`	`Mutacion`	`rox! on taz?`
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`22:37.38`	`rosso75`	`hallo`
`22:39.22`	`rosso75`	`hey!!!!`
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`22:44.45`	`withoutclass`	`hohoho`
`22:47.03`	`Elive_user`	`hi,could someone help.. I've got E16 + E17 working on HDD, form elive+CVS, update kernel to 2.6.15, installed gcc 4.1 and now I have every icons,ibar and extensions twice.why? ;)`
`22:47.10`	`Elive_user`	`In E17`
`22:47.37`	`withoutclass`	`Elive_user,`
`22:47.40`	`withoutclass`	`apt doublemodules`
`22:47.41`	`apt`	`doublemodules is, like, located here http://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Bugs/`
`22:47.48`	`withoutclass`	`this is the fix`
`22:47.56`	`Elive_user`	`perfect..`
`22:49.12`	`rosso75`	`hey, i heve installed the kernel 2.6.15, but the system don't boot`
`22:49.50`	`withoutclass`	`rosso75, did you change your settings in menu.lst`
`22:49.59`	`rosso75`	`yes`
`22:50.11`	`withoutclass`	`you installed the elive kernel from apt repositories?`
`22:50.25`	`Elive_user`	`U must change it manually in menu boot setting,doesn't work add new, but edit old one`
`22:50.38`	`Elive_user`	`and give it 2.6.15`
`22:50.49`	`withoutclass`	`did you edit it manually?`
`22:50.53`	`withoutclass`	`with nano`
`22:50.54`	`Elive_user`	`yes,it worked`
`22:50.59`	`Elive_user`	`apt-get`
`22:51.15`	`rosso75`	`i have doing copy`
`22:51.23`	`withoutclass`	`Elive_user, good`
`22:51.26`	`Elive_user`	`but grub gave me only 2.6.12 so change it manually`
`22:51.39`	`Elive_user`	`:)`
`22:51.52`	`withoutclass`	`rosso75, exactly what kernel did you install`
`22:52.26`	`rosso75`	`linux-image-2.6.15`
`22:52.54`	`withoutclass`	`you should use apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.15`
`22:53.04`	`rosso75`	`yes`
`22:53.36`	`rosso75`	`the error is: "waiting for root file system"`
`22:53.37`	`withoutclass`	`www.pastebin.com your menu.list`
`22:53.48`	`withoutclass`	`err menu.lst`
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`22:53.57`	`Elive_user`	`i'll have a look what I've downloaded`
`22:54.38`	`Elive_user`	`2.6.15-1-686`
`22:54.40`	`Elive_user`	`working`
`22:54.54`	`Elive_user`	`on IBM T23 - PIII`
`22:56.51`	`withoutclass`	`zzzz`
`22:56.54`	`rosso75`	`i look pastebin.com but i don't understand what i must doing???`
`22:57.09`	`withoutclass`	`you are pasting your menu.lst in there, and then hitting send`
`22:57.12`	`withoutclass`	`and then copying the url here`
`22:57.37`	`Elive_user`	`Hey,the bug about double icon is somewhere described? elivecd.org bugs-none`
`22:58.42`	`rosso75`	`ok`
`22:59.26`	`Mutacion`	`lala la`
`22:59.28`	`Mutacion`	`qe haciendo?`
`22:59.31`	`Mutacion`	`habce hambrtia!!!`
`22:59.35`	`Mutacion`	`Elive_user, what tie it is???`
`22:59.42`	`Mutacion`	`hi rosso75`
`22:59.44`	`withoutclass`	`HAMBRITA TIME`
`22:59.46`	`withoutclass`	`xD`
`22:59.47`	`Mutacion`	`qiuble withoutclass`
`22:59.49`	`rosso75`	`hi`
`23:00.00`	`withoutclass`	`quibole Mutacion`
`23:00.03`	`withoutclass`	`oops`
`23:00.11`	`Mutacion`	`yeha !! :P`
`23:00.13`	`Mutacion`	`hambrita rocks!`
`23:00.16`	`Mutacion`	`apt time-to`
`23:00.18`	`apt`	`it has been said that time-to is its HAMBRITA TIME!!!`
`23:00.20`	`withoutclass`	`s/quibole/qiubole`
`23:00.24`	`Mutacion`	`brb xD hambrita is calling me`
`23:00.32`	`Mutacion`	`qiubole = qiubole`
`23:00.56`	`Mutacion`	`quiubole == qiubole`
`23:01.05`	`Elive_user`	`Mutacion> what U mean by tie?`
`23:01.15`	`rosso75`	`whithoutclass:====>>http://pastebin.com/691286`
`23:01.30`	`Mutacion`	`i mean time..not tie`
`23:01.33`	`Mutacion`	`brbr`
`23:02.10`	`rosso75`	`how can i do for register me at this channel!!!`
`23:02.32`	`Elive_user`	`Don't know - clock as all the other extensions not working :) :)`
`23:03.17`	`Elive_user`	`I can tell you only one thing - 62 degree :)`
`23:04.16`	`withoutclass`	`Elive_user, you must adjust clock through elpanel`
`23:04.45`	`Elive_user`	`no luck, I load it, start it and nothing`
`23:05.13`	`Elive_user`	`no weather, no clock, only battery and mixer`
`23:05.21`	`Elive_user`	`and all twice`
`23:05.38`	`withoutclass`	`Elive_user, are you trying to use e17 modules?`
`23:05.44`	`Elive_user`	`yes`
`23:05.48`	`withoutclass`	`apt e17`
`23:05.50`	`apt`	`i heard e17 is IN DEVELOPEMENT, and this is the same to NOT FINISHED, some parts works, and some parts not works, e17 not is prepaired for the end-user, if you continue like to use it is your problem, if you search a stable thing, use e16`
`23:06.27`	`withoutclass`	`rosso75, why are you using 686 kernel`
`23:06.34`	`Elive_user`	`yes,it looks like... but mistake like have something twice is not so bad as have nothing :)`
`23:07.13`	`rosso75`	`first i have install the 2.6.15, but it don't go`
`23:07.14`	`Elive_user`	`before kernel update,it was allright.. 2.6.15-1-686`
`23:07.58`	`withoutclass`	`Thanatermesis has done tests and the 686 kernel provides little to no advantage over the current elive kernel`
`23:08.14`	`rosso75`	`after i have try the debian versione, 2.6.15-1-686, but i have the same problem!!`
`23:08.19`	`Elive_user`	`yes,that's right`
`23:09.10`	`Elive_user`	`rosso75 > in this case (me working) the trouble will be hardware VS kernel`
`23:09.15`	`Elive_user`	`not E`
`23:09.50`	`rosso75`	`but the 2.6.12 work, the 1.6.11 work!!!`
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`23:10.14`	`Elive_user`	`hmm.. 2.6.15 doesn't`
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`23:10.40`	`withoutclass`	`rosso75, you tried the regular 2.6.15 kernel?`
`23:10.40`	`rosso75`	`i want to install the linuxant driver and i don't find the source and headers for the 2.6.12 kernel!!`
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`23:10.51`	`Elive_user`	`before updating kernel I did apt-get update,upgrade,distro-upgrade,gcc 4.1 upgrade`
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`23:11.02`	`withoutclass`	`rosso75, the kernel source/headers for 2.6.12 kernel is lost`
`23:12.52`	`rosso75`	`first on this machine i have installed the open suse whithout problem!!`
`23:13.15`	`Elive_user`	`maybe try this.. of cource kernel-image + headers`
`23:13.54`	`withoutclass`	`suse pffft`
`23:13.57`	`withoutclass`	`ugly bloated`
`23:14.19`	`withoutclass`	`rosso75, old computer?`
`23:14.24`	`withoutclass`	`or new`
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`23:14.47`	`Elive_user`	`I've suse in work, but debian seems quite not too heavy in elive`
`23:15.13`	`rosso75`	`Compaq presario 700, amd athlon 1,2 gh, 512 mb ram and 20 gb harddisk`
`23:15.28`	`Elive_user`	`I'm working now on some machine like this`
`23:15.31`	`Elive_user`	`IBM`
`23:15.51`	`Elive_user`	`Do U prefer suse because of yast?`
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`23:16.23`	`rosso75`	`yast is fantastic but the suse is most slowly!!!`
`23:16.44`	`Elive_user`	`It would be fantastic mix: Enlightenment stable + yast freeopen`
`23:16.53`	`Elive_user`	`on debian`
`23:17.19`	`rosso75`	`when i finish my hupgrade......`
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`23:17.41`	`rosso75`	`i reinstall the kernel 2.6.15!!!`
`23:17.54`	`Elive_user`	`well,what was the problem?`
`23:18.31`	`Elive_user`	`I want to have support for my camera f****g HP, 2.6.15 still nothing :)`
`23:19.00`	`Elive_user`	`GTkam error.. damn`
`23:19.09`	`rosso75`	`when i boot the sysetem don't go in this point: "waiting for root file system"`
`23:20.09`	`Elive_user`	`it tells U grub?`
`23:20.17`	`rosso75`	`whitout any error messages, nothing!!! only this messages!!!`
`23:20.33`	`rosso75`	`what??`
`23:20.43`	`Elive_user`	`did U pass through GRUB?`
`23:20.50`	`Elive_user`	`or after that?`
`23:21.07`	`rosso75`	`after that`
`23:21.41`	`Elive_user`	`how did U solve it?`
`23:23.22`	`Elive_user`	`just one thing: After 2.6.15 some functions start to work in E17 (like ending enlightenment)..`
`23:24.22`	`rosso75`	`I have not still resolved it`
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`23:28.57`	`Elive_user`	`well... I reinstalled kernel but grub did not get it.. so try: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.15-1-686 and kernel-headers=2.6.15-1-686 AND don't restart, RUN in panel grub edit - edit 2.6.12, give there the new versions of kernel and headers and reboot`
`23:29.23`	`Elive_user`	`and maybe rename it :)`
`23:29.53`	`Elive_user`	`mean the name of choice of kernel because it wont be 2.6.12`
`23:30.29`	`Elive_user`	`add new entry of kernel doesn't work so U must do some harakiri :)`
`23:31.45`	`_H_`	`thanatermesis`
`23:31.47`	`_H_`	`estas?`
`23:31.56`	`_H_`	`hola dererk`
`23:32.24`	`_H_`	`viste el pdf dererk? creo que tu hablabas en la entrevista no?`
`23:32.27`	`_H_`	`:)`
`23:32.35`	`rosso75`	`hmmm, i have do copy and past in the new line for not lost the possibility of use the kernel 2.6.12`
`23:33.11`	`Elive_user`	`so rewrite 2.6.11`
`23:33.49`	`Elive_user`	`and if U will want to use 2.6.11, boot in 2.6.15 rewrite 2.6.15 back to 2.6.11.... luck we have 2 kernel in grub`
`23:34.53`	`Elive_user`	`Or to find grub options-text file with options-and rewrite it and make new entry`
`23:35.00`	`rosso75`	`good idea i had not thought to us`
`23:35.13`	`Elive_user`	`but I did not try to look after this`
`23:35.25`	`Elive_user`	`;)`
`23:35.51`	`Mutacion`	`cual entrevista?`
`23:36.01`	`Elive_user`	`now I'll try to change to E16 and have a look what did update in E16 ;)`
`23:36.27`	`salah^`	`hola Mutacion`
`23:36.36`	`Mutacion`	`qiubole salah :)`
`23:37.30`	`salah^`	`donde vives en españa?`
`23:37.36`	`Mutacion`	`noy..`
`23:37.42`	`Mutacion`	`del otro lado del mundo :)`
`23:38.05`	`Mutacion`	`del pais de los lindos mariachis y el tequila`
`23:38.51`	`salah^`	`mmm im not that good at speaking spanish`
`23:39.08`	`salah^`	`tequila.. I have heard of that word before`
`23:39.23`	`salah^`	`apt tr es en tequila`
`23:39.24`	`Mutacion`	`hahahaha`
`23:39.32`	`salah^`	`apt x tr es en tequila`
`23:39.49`	`Mutacion`	`tequila is a wine.. alcohol`
`23:39.57`	`salah^`	`oh, cool`
`23:40.06`	`salah^`	`what language do you speak in mexico?`
`23:40.16`	`Elive_user`	`yes,i'd like to have a bottle tequila`
`23:40.17`	`Elive_user`	`:)`
`23:40.19`	`Mutacion`	`we speak spanish`
`23:40.32`	`salah^`	`aha`
`23:40.45`	`Mutacion`	`hahaha Elive_user , me too :P with lemon and salt.. and some shots of tequila`
`23:40.51`	`salah^`	`i have spanish exam tomorrow, I can't speak ANY words :(`
`23:41.02`	`Elive_user`	`yes, body shot with tequila`
`23:41.08`	`Elive_user`	`;) I like taht`
`23:41.09`	`Mutacion`	`lol :P but me tequila and i can present for you that exam`
`23:41.11`	`Elive_user`	`that`
`23:41.40`	`Elive_user`	`what is the original percentage of alcohol in tequila? 40?`
`23:41.42`	`salah^`	`apt x tr es en donde vives en españa?`
`23:41.58`	`Mutacion`	`i live in mexico..not spain`
`23:42.00`	`salah^`	`Elive_user 43 or 47 I think`
`23:42.07`	`Mutacion`	`Elive_user, i dont remember :s`
`23:42.10`	`salah^`	`Mutacion I know`
`23:42.24`	`Elive_user`	`We have here in czech republic our plum brandy 45-55.. really hot too`
`23:43.05`	`Mutacion`	`orale!! :o`
`23:43.10`	`Mutacion`	`i dont like brandy :P`
`23:43.12`	`salah^`	`czech republic? dude, somethimes IRC makes world so small`
`23:43.18`	`Elive_user`	`woallaaaaa : kernel 2.6.15 give me the opportunity to compile DRI for my savage VGA!`
`23:43.20`	`rosso75`	`TEQUILA!!!! i love the tequila!!!`
`23:43.21`	`Elive_user`	`yes,IRC`
`23:43.23`	`Elive_user`	`rules`
`23:43.24`	`Elive_user`	`:)`
`23:43.32`	`Mutacion`	`yeah, salah, we need xtraterrestial channels now :P`
`23:43.33`	`Elive_user`	`gold one is better`
`23:44.01`	`salah^`	`hehe`
`23:44.34`	`Elive_user`	`if the silver tequila comes from cactus, so the gold one comes from what?`
`23:44.46`	`Elive_user`	`sand? :)`
`23:45.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`omg .... our german shothair puppy got attacked by 4 180 lbs irish wolf hounds and lives`
`23:46.02`	`LinuxNIT`	`when it happened 7 guys came over and kicked the shit out of them for my mom`
`23:46.02`	`salah^`	`lol`
`23:46.02`	`Mutacion`	`Elive_user, tequita dosent came from cactus!!`
`23:46.07`	`rosso75`	`NinuxNIT!!!! Hallo!`
`23:46.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`rosso75, howdy`
`23:46.13`	`Elive_user`	`so from what?`
`23:46.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`rosso75, did you install?`
`23:46.40`	`rosso75`	`yes`
`23:46.41`	`Mutacion`	`teuitequila comes from the MAGUEY or AGAVE... is a dessert plant.. cactus is another dessert plant`
`23:46.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`it work?`
`23:47.04`	`rosso75`	`but don't work!! :-(`
`23:47.08`	`LinuxNIT`	`?`
`23:47.15`	`LinuxNIT`	`did you install python2.4-tk?`
`23:47.18`	`rosso75`	`i can look the accessp point`
`23:47.41`	`Elive_user`	`in that case i like agave :)`
`23:47.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`ah so the program starts but wont connect you?`
`23:48.43`	`Mutacion`	`tequila cames from this plant .... http://members.chello.nl/~h.vanderkeijlen/agave.jpg`
`23:48.45`	`rosso75`	`i can get my parameters, i say :" operation fail"!!!`
`23:49.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmmm`
`23:49.20`	`rosso75`	`but whith "ifup wlan0" i don't have problem!!`
`23:49.24`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@zln-84-242-95-131.nat.karneval.cz)`
`23:49.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmm`
`23:49.55`	`rosso75`	`another question`
`23:50.05`	`LinuxNIT`	`ah i think i know how to fix this`
`23:50.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`what?`
`23:50.19`	`rosso75`	`there is the way for saving my parameters!!`
`23:50.29`	`LinuxNIT`	`im adding that to the program :D`
`23:50.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`i have not got that far yet :-/`
`23:51.25`	`LinuxNIT`	`let me update something reall quick and have you retry it.... are you interested in that?`
`23:52.57`	`rosso75`	`yes,`
`23:53.38`	`*** join/#elive LinuxNIT-gone (n=LinuxNIT@ppp-70-245-27-9.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net)`
`23:55.49`	`rosso75`	`LinuxNIT`
`23:55.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`yes?`
`23:55.58`	`rosso75`	`recall me`
`23:56.27`	`withoutclass`	`agave cactus!`
`23:56.51`	`LinuxNIT`	`rosso75, join #wifi-wiz i cannot recieve your messges`
`23:57.27`	`tizoc`	`hi`
`23:57.35`	`tizoc`	`does the elivecd come with ntfsresize?`
`23:57.55`	`withoutclass`	`i think it is possible to resize ntfs partitions using gparted`
`23:58.20`	`tizoc`	`ok, then... elive comes with gparted? :P`
`23:58.28`	`withoutclass`	`yep`
`23:58.32`	`withoutclass`	`right in the installer`
`23:58.37`	`tizoc`	`ok`
`23:58.56`	`tizoc`	`thanks`
`23:59.30`	`salah^`	`anyone using 2200BG wireless network card here?`

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