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`00:12.16`	`Duvelr`	`hola gente!`
`00:12.29`	`salah`	`hola`
`00:13.16`	`Duvelr`	`hola!`
`00:14.29`	`Duvelr`	`trato de instalar "exhibit" y tengo como resultado un error 404 "Not Found"`
`00:16.33`	`Duvelr`	`alguien conoce un servidor que no sea "idefix.eup.uva.es" ?`
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`00:20.55`	`Duvelr`	`Hi! I did treat to install "exhibit" & the result is Failed to fetch http://idefix.eup......6.deb 404 Not Found`
`00:21.09`	`Duvelr`	`some body can help me?`
`00:22.01`	`gnaunited`	`Is that a short URL or is that the one you used?`
`00:22.12`	`gnaunited`	`And also - are you behind a proxy of any kind?`
`00:25.42`	`Duvelr`	`thanks gnaunited , if I do apt-get install joe, everything works!`
`00:25.59`	`gnaunited`	`Umm, ok`
`00:26.28`	`Duvelr`	`a short ansuer 4 2 cuestons... ;)`
`00:27.09`	`Duvelr`	`so, looks like is someting about "E"`
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`00:27.33`	`Duvelr`	`apt-get install "eem", "e" ....etc`
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`00:33.01`	`Duvelr`	`the message complet is: "Errhttp://idefix.eup.uva.es elive/efl engage cvs20060430 404 Not Found"`
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`00:36.20`	`Duvelr`	`a ver Mutacion ....no me dices que esta pasando?`
`00:37.47`	`Mutacion`	`pues a lo mejor esta fuera de servicio como te habras dado cuenta`
`00:37.57`	`Duvelr`	`;)`
`00:38.36`	`Duvelr`	`pero el servidor esta vivo!`
`00:39.29`	`Duvelr`	`si hago un apt-get update... "uvas" no presenta ningun problema!`
`00:41.23`	`Mutacion`	`hiciste un apt-get check?`
`00:41.39`	`Duvelr`	`nop!`
`00:41.52`	`Mutacion`	`entonces no sabes usar apt`
`00:41.54`	`Duvelr`	`Reading package lists... Done`
`00:41.54`	`Duvelr`	`Building dependency tree... Done`
`00:42.00`	`Duvelr`	`lo siento`
`00:42.10`	`yawlright`	`apt time-to`
`00:42.12`	`apt`	`i heard time-to is its HAMBRITA TIME!!!`
`00:42.15`	`Mutacion`	`lol xD`
`00:42.23`	`Mutacion`	`bring me some icrecream yawlright :P`
`00:43.14`	`Duvelr`	`intente con un "apt-get moo" y todo parece bien! no vi la necesidad del "check"`
`00:46.25`	`yawlright`	`apt icecream`
`00:46.27`	`apt`	`i guess icecream is nice`
`00:51.06`	`Duvelr`	`xD`
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`01:02.18`	`Duvelr`	`Is ok now, I change from " http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive" to "http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/"`
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`01:02.59`	`Duvelr`	`but..., If I can't boot is Mutacion's fault xD`
`01:03.25`	`Mutacion`	`chinga chinga`
`01:03.29`	`Duvelr`	`por supuesto withoutclass !`
`01:03.32`	`withoutclass`	`qiubole Mutacion`
`01:03.47`	`Mutacion`	`qiubole withoutclass :P`
`01:03.47`	`withoutclass`	`apt x es en por supuesto withoutclass !`
`01:04.13`	`Duvelr`	`les cuento en un rato`
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`01:14.28`	`Duvelr`	`si funciona`
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`01:15.47`	`Mutacion`	`^^`
`01:18.43`	`yawlright`	`bueno`
`01:20.47`	`Duvelr`	`lo unico es que perdi el "theme" de entrances`
`01:25.17`	`pycs`	`apt x es en lo unico es que perdi el "theme" de entrances`
`01:26.26`	`Duvelr`	`clases de spanish?`
`01:26.41`	`pycs`	`whats perdi?`
`01:27.35`	`Mutacion`	`perdi = lost`
`01:28.12`	`pycs`	`oh now i know :)`
`01:28.22`	`Mutacion`	`pycs, ....... the only thing that i lost was the entrance theme <--`
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`01:29.01`	`Duvelr`	`the thing is, now I lost the entrance theme...`
`01:29.10`	`pycs`	`why?`
`01:29.25`	`Duvelr`	`just update!`
`01:29.52`	`pycs`	`when you update its lost?`
`01:30.09`	`Duvelr`	`or something alike...`
`01:30.34`	`Duvelr`	`yeah... all time with "entrance". It is like a game`
`01:31.24`	`pycs`	`that's why i am hesitant in updating.`
`01:31.24`	`pycs`	`the odds in messing your system when updating goes 50%`
`01:31.30`	`pycs`	`imho`
`01:31.31`	`Duvelr`	`nooo....`
`01:32.33`	`Duvelr`	`& you don't need that, it's the configuration... no problem at all :)`
`01:33.23`	`pycs`	`i mean not just updating the apt, but dist-upgrade <-- thats what i mean :)`
`01:35.02`	`Duvelr`	`thats not good idea with Elive!`
`01:36.25`	`pycs`	`i just do a fressh install, good thing though is that the /home partition is separate :)`
`01:36.26`	`Duvelr`	`I you don't "know" wath are you doing`
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`01:36.52`	`withoutclass`	`i update every day`
`01:37.03`	`Duvelr`	`"If" you don't "know" wath are you doing`
`01:37.47`	`pycs`	`really? withoutclass , and no conflicts or something like that ?`
`01:37.51`	`Duvelr`	`apt-get update... is ok`
`01:37.52`	`withoutclass`	`nope`
`01:38.06`	`withoutclass`	`i dist-upgrade every day`
`01:38.10`	`withoutclass`	`no problems`
`01:39.00`	`Duvelr`	`hmmm, well now I got no transparence in Xchat...`
`01:39.30`	`Duvelr`	`that is'nt a big problem, but...`
`01:40.06`	`pycs`	`the other day, i wanted to install the "orange machine", but it needs the whole qt, i installed all qt cores, ant it messed up :(`
`01:40.53`	`withoutclass`	`well guh`
`01:40.54`	`withoutclass`	`duh`
`01:40.54`	`withoutclass`	`lol`
`01:41.01`	`withoutclass`	`k is not elive`
`01:41.10`	`pycs`	`yeah..`
`01:41.41`	`pycs`	`but what can i do if those apps are very dependent on those libs`
`01:41.46`	`withoutclass`	`you cant really expect to install a bunch of stuff from a different WM and expect everything to be perfect afterward`
`01:41.47`	`withoutclass`	`s`
`01:41.53`	`withoutclass`	`what app`
`01:41.54`	`Mutacion`	`Duvelr, go to xchat options and put -transparent background- that will ifx it`
`01:41.56`	`Mutacion`	`fix`
`01:41.58`	`withoutclass`	`apt orange machine`
`01:42.05`	`withoutclass`	`what is this`
`01:42.31`	`pycs`	`its a data mining <-- predictive AI`
`01:42.45`	`withoutclass`	`ic`
`01:42.49`	`withoutclass`	`dunno`
`01:42.55`	`withoutclass`	`i successfully installed amarok the other day`
`01:43.01`	`withoutclass`	`that required lots of qt type things`
`01:43.18`	`pycs`	`great :)`
`01:43.35`	`withoutclass`	`that was before i reformated everything though`
`01:43.47`	`withoutclass`	`the amarok stuff really bogged down my system`
`01:44.53`	`Duvelr`	`You alright Mutacion "Settings -> Preferences -> Transparent background"`
`01:45.10`	`Duvelr`	`do the job!`
`01:45.19`	`withoutclass`	`kudos`
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`01:54.18`	`LinuxNIT`	`salah, ping`
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`02:09.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`wb salah`
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`03:01.15`	`revdjenk`	`you're probly right`
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`03:07.17`	`OmniColos`	`I must say that for the time being I'm gonna stick to ubuntu.gnome as my primary distro, but I have an enlive partition as well`
`03:07.29`	`LinuxNIT`	`:<`
`03:07.32`	`withoutclass`	`sick`
`03:07.46`	`OmniColos`	`setting up ibar is very painful for me`
`03:07.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`:D`
`03:07.55`	`LinuxNIT`	`really?`
`03:07.55`	`withoutclass`	`sodont use ibar`
`03:08.02`	`LinuxNIT`	`thru entangle?`
`03:08.08`	`withoutclass`	`i dont use any bar`
`03:08.11`	`OmniColos`	`I would like to just drag apps onto it`
`03:08.11`	`withoutclass`	`hotkeys only`
`03:08.17`	`withoutclass`	`you can...`
`03:08.20`	`LinuxNIT`	`hotkeys are nice`
`03:08.21`	`withoutclass`	`just doesnt always work`
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`03:08.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`and in entangle you jus drrag the eap to to the ibar list of programs`
`03:08.46`	`OmniColos`	`I like engage and the e16 is not too hard, but I dont like that binary config format`
`03:09.00`	`withoutclass`	`i dunno, if ibar is your excuse......`
`03:09.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`:D`
`03:09.23`	`withoutclass`	`pretty weak one`
`03:09.25`	`LinuxNIT`	`btw there is engage in e17 as well`
`03:09.31`	`OmniColos`	`also it seems like laptop support is not there for me`
`03:09.39`	`withoutclass`	`what part of it`
`03:09.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt-get install engage-module`
`03:09.51`	`OmniColos`	`but I love how elive has all the mutlimedia stuff ready to go :D`
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`03:10.20`	`withoutclass`	`what laptop support are you missing?`
`03:10.36`	`OmniColos`	`I could not figure out how to get suspend to work`
`03:10.47`	`withoutclass`	`there isnt suspend`
`03:10.51`	`OmniColos`	`(I'm a n00b)`
`03:10.54`	`LinuxNIT`	`did you add the lines to grub?`
`03:11.16`	`LinuxNIT`	`did you install the software ?`
`03:11.17`	`OmniColos`	`I'm not doing it through acpi but through mem`
`03:11.30`	`withoutclass`	`i dont think i have ever had a real use for suspend to disk`
`03:11.35`	`LinuxNIT`	`suspend to ram or suspend to disk?`
`03:11.37`	`OmniColos`	`works well in ubuntu with the "hibernate" package`
`03:11.41`	`OmniColos`	`to ram`
`03:11.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`ah`
`03:12.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`i have not played with it on elive yet`
`03:12.07`	`withoutclass`	`is your battery that bad?`
`03:12.15`	`LinuxNIT`	`mine is lol`
`03:12.21`	`withoutclass`	`lol`
`03:12.23`	`LinuxNIT`	`mine stays plugged in`
`03:12.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`45 min up time`
`03:12.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:12.31`	`withoutclass`	`ouch`
`03:12.34`	`withoutclass`	`old though`
`03:12.40`	`LinuxNIT`	`its a 5yr old laptop`
`03:12.46`	`OmniColos`	`stupid me made my swap ony 550mb then I u/g my ram to 1 gb`
`03:12.58`	`OmniColos`	`now my swap partition is trapped`
`03:12.59`	`withoutclass`	`who needs swap`
`03:13.03`	`withoutclass`	`lol`
`03:13.09`	`withoutclass`	`my swap partition is 1mb`
`03:13.11`	`OmniColos`	`swap for suspend to disk`
`03:13.17`	`withoutclass`	`but i think it forced me to use 8mb`
`03:13.17`	`roxville`	`i need it`
`03:13.26`	`LinuxNIT`	`roxville, your dif`
`03:13.28`	`withoutclass`	`oh roxville, how are you`
`03:13.32`	`LinuxNIT`	`you do graphics stuff`
`03:13.39`	`OmniColos`	`can I s2d somewhere other than swap?!`
`03:13.40`	`roxville`	`so does OmniColos`
`03:13.42`	`LinuxNIT`	`btw howdy roxville`
`03:13.54`	`roxville`	`hi withoutclass i'm ok bro, how are you?`
`03:13.54`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh`
`03:13.58`	`OmniColos`	`i do all kinds of art`
`03:13.59`	`withoutclass`	`not ba`
`03:14.00`	`withoutclass`	`d`
`03:14.05`	`withoutclass`	`fresh .5beta2 install`
`03:14.05`	`roxville`	`howdy LinuxNIT :)`
`03:14.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`OmniColos, oooooh`
`03:14.10`	`OmniColos`	`portfolio.athensmultimedia.com`
`03:14.19`	`OmniColos`	`er http://portfolio.athensmultimedia.com`
`03:14.52`	`Mutacion`	`someone has XENOTRON font?`
`03:16.20`	`roxville`	`OmniColos, damn, this is good stuff!`
`03:16.48`	`roxville`	`Mutacion, no buddy, sorry :/`
`03:16.57`	`OmniColos`	`I did some modeling for the Dungeon Siege game http://herenaforge.org/tiki-index.php?page=DS%3A+Revived+and+DSLOA%3A+Revived`
`03:17.37`	`Mutacion`	`buah`
`03:17.43`	`Mutacion`	`hi rox! how was ur day?`
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`03:17.48`	`OmniColos`	`I can do lots of good stuff when I'm paired up with a talented code poet`
`03:19.00`	`OmniColos`	`I had a hard time getting info on how to make icons for apps as eaps`
`03:19.16`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt make-eap`
`03:19.17`	`apt`	`well, make-eap is http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html`
`03:19.21`	`LinuxNIT`	`:D`
`03:19.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`there you go OmniColos problem solved :D`
`03:19.51`	`OmniColos`	`that kind of info should be made very accessable to joe-user`
`03:20.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`suggestion on how?`
`03:20.26`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmm is it in the FAQ?`
`03:20.35`	`roxville`	`i love the sea bisquit stuff`
`03:20.53`	`OmniColos`	`maybe a help file on the desktop or add to the firefox links (which are very cool, btw)`
`03:21.08`	`OmniColos`	`thanks rox, it was lots of fun`
`03:21.17`	`OmniColos`	`I even used the UPC offa snicker bar`
`03:21.30`	`OmniColos`	`did you know Snickers was the name of the Mars family horse?`
`03:21.35`	`roxville`	`Mutacion, my day was ok... i couldn't spend a lot of time in here... so i got some stuff done! :)`
`03:21.54`	`Mutacion`	`waht :)`
`03:22.07`	`OmniColos`	`that Bad Ram link on elive-firefox is awesome`
`03:22.37`	`OmniColos`	`more underground linux info links in firefox never hurts :d`
`03:22.41`	`OmniColos`	`:D`
`03:23.08`	`LinuxNIT`	`OmniColos, i told Thanatermesis about you idea to add it to firefox`
`03:23.20`	`OmniColos`	`though they are indange of getting overwritten by users own accumulated links`
`03:23.24`	`roxville`	`yes he did`
`03:23.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`roxville, he already added it?`
`03:23.59`	`OmniColos`	`so maybe have a easy-to-find bookmarks file redy to import as well`
`03:24.24`	`roxville`	`LinuxNIT, no, not that i know... i was just confirming that you told thana about it :)`
`03:24.32`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh lol`
`03:24.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`ok`
`03:25.13`	`OmniColos`	`one thing that really bugs me about most all distros is so much wireless support not on the disk.... though it seems to be changing for the better`
`03:25.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`like drivers?`
`03:25.37`	`OmniColos`	`a nice wpa_supplicant interface would be nice`
`03:26.00`	`OmniColos`	`drivers, wpa_supplicant`
`03:26.50`	`OmniColos`	`WEP is pretty basic... many ppl are switching to WPA types`
`03:26.51`	`LinuxNIT`	`i have not worked on addin wpa to it.... i dont yet know enough about wpa since my parents use wep`
`03:27.02`	`LinuxNIT`	`yes it is`
`03:27.12`	`OmniColos`	`most institutions use soem from of WPA`
`03:27.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`i just have not yet had the experiance with it`
`03:27.42`	`LinuxNIT`	`once i get the experiance (this summer i plan) i will try and add it to my gui program`
`03:27.50`	`OmniColos`	`I use it WPA tkip and home and TTLS/pap at work and school`
`03:27.54`	`LinuxNIT`	`you can check out the curretn version if you are interested`
`03:28.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`just let me know and ill link ya`
`03:28.21`	`OmniColos`	`I got wpa working nicely in elive, but I already had scripts handy`
`03:28.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`hehe`
`03:28.56`	`OmniColos`	`the ipw2200 firmware was on the install disk but not the drivers strangly enough`
`03:29.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:29.11`	`OmniColos`	`so I was a little annoyed to have to d/l`
`03:29.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`well elive is still new.... ipw220 is on e the new release`
`03:29.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`errr ipw2200`
`03:30.12`	`OmniColos`	`there arent that many wireless hardwares so I doubt space on the distro for drivers is a big issue?`
`03:30.21`	`OmniColos`	`cool`
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`03:32.13`	`OmniColos`	`the only thing with linux drivers are ones that don't quite work with some particular HW, and ppl having to disable to get their ndiswrapper hacks to work... seems common with ACX hw`
`03:32.55`	`OmniColos`	`ipw is very common on laptops though`
`03:33.15`	`OmniColos`	`hi Thanatermesis`
`03:33.31`	`roxville`	`hi Thanatermesis`
`03:33.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`well imho this is not so much linux fault as it is the manufactures fault. the manufactures refuse to wirte drivers for linux.`
`03:33.51`	`LinuxNIT`	`morons`
`03:33.55`	`LinuxNIT`	`:-/`
`03:33.59`	`roxville`	`:)`
`03:34.02`	`LinuxNIT`	`howdy Thanatermesis_`
`03:34.03`	`OmniColos`	`but particularly because enlighten is so configurable, lots of info should be ready for the user`
`03:34.36`	`roxville`	`agreed`
`03:34.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`well OmniColos they try to improve it all the time... so in put is nice :D`
`03:34.56`	`OmniColos`	`I agree LinuxNIT, so thats why its particularly important to have what does exist easily available`
`03:34.59`	`roxville`	`it's just that the ppl who know how, don't think they have the time to do it`
`03:35.42`	`roxville`	`even if raster is doing better at documenting nowadays...`
`03:35.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`this is actually the basis for why i wrote my gui for wifi networks. i was trying to make it simpler for new uses to connect to networls :D`
`03:36.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`plus i got annoyed with useing the command line to scan / connect`
`03:36.29`	`OmniColos`	`even the wpa_gui package is decent for configuring`
`03:36.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`:D`
`03:36.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmm i have not looked at it`
`03:37.08`	`OmniColos`	`it would make it much less painful if it was installed with the distro, imho`
`03:37.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`i found numerous for regular wep but all either did not work or required the user to hunt down a config file and edit it to w work on their system`
`03:38.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`OmniColos, how much room did it take to install?`
`03:38.09`	`OmniColos`	`there also needs to be an easy way for a user to d/l a cert from a WPA server`
`03:38.20`	`OmniColos`	`its a tiny package`
`03:38.24`	`LinuxNIT`	`k`
`03:38.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`cause this is a livecd :D`
`03:38.37`	`OmniColos`	`all the more reason`
`03:38.51`	`OmniColos`	`I like the live install`
`03:38.56`	`OmniColos`	`nice job`
`03:39.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeah i was just making sure it did not require lots of dependanceies that would take up a lot of room :D`
`03:39.25`	`OmniColos`	`I only used the .42 installer`
`03:39.32`	`LinuxNIT`	`tell the nice job to Thanatermesis`
`03:39.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`i dont do any dev`
`03:39.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`:D`
`03:39.54`	`OmniColos`	`though the partition editor comes up without any explanation on what to do with it`
`03:40.14`	`OmniColos`	`that is my only suggestion to have a little text precede it`
`03:40.24`	`LinuxNIT`	`:>`
`03:40.33`	`OmniColos`	`bu tyou have a totally different installer for .5 no?`
`03:40.48`	`roxville`	`huomenta wasynyt_work`
`03:41.17`	`roxville`	`thana has worked quite a bit on it... some new pretty nice options`
`03:41.23`	`roxville`	`with has tried it`
`03:41.32`	`roxville`	`he was the guinea pig`
`03:41.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`so i have i just dont remeber it lol`
`03:41.42`	`OmniColos`	`also some explanation on how to deal with an existing home partition would help joe-user`
`03:41.44`	`roxville`	`lol`
`03:41.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh wait... i tried it on the first iso`
`03:41.50`	`wasynyt_work`	`-> work to do`
`03:41.51`	`LinuxNIT`	`nm`
`03:42.08`	`wasynyt_work`	`see yuo later people`
`03:42.14`	`OmniColos`	`cya wasynyt_work`
`03:42.17`	`roxville`	`have a good day wasynyt_work :)`
`03:42.37`	`LinuxNIT`	`roxville, do you know the link to where suggestions are to be posted?`
`03:42.42`	`wasynyt_work`	`i will... it will be a sunny day`
`03:42.43`	`wasynyt_work`	`:D`
`03:43.14`	`OmniColos`	`a little link to text about su VS sudo would be nice for joe-user switching from ubuntu`
`03:43.22`	`OmniColos`	`I like the elive su system`
`03:43.30`	`roxville`	`LinuxNIT, no...`
`03:43.35`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmmm`
`03:44.14`	`OmniColos`	`also on the website its confusing to where documentation should be... there are two wikis`
`03:44.34`	`roxville`	`yeah...`
`03:44.39`	`OmniColos`	`drupal and mediawiki iirc`
`03:45.11`	`roxville`	`thana didn't like drupal, so he had mediawiki installed... and out community site moved in a notch`
`03:45.29`	`roxville`	`our`
`03:45.57`	`OmniColos`	`mediawiki is nice if you can slave the user database to your main site`
`03:46.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`well i gotta get back to my research paper`
`03:46.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`ick`
`03:46.24`	`OmniColos`	`cya LinuxNIT`
`03:46.38`	`OmniColos`	`thanks for putting up with my rants`
`03:46.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`hehe`
`03:47.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`np`
`03:47.25`	`LinuxNIT`	`maybe elive will be a bit better cause of them :D`
`03:48.15`	`OmniColos`	`my perspective is that of n00b-enthusaist switching from windows and ubuntu`
`03:48.31`	`OmniColos`	`I know enough about linux only to get in trouble`
`03:48.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`hehe`
`03:48.58`	`OmniColos`	`so I need lots of documentation and I ;m spoiled with ubuntu's community`
`03:49.13`	`OmniColos`	`but its smart that elive is debian so its not too hard`
`03:49.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`well i think that one really nice thing he did was efault xchat to come here for most all the support one needs :)`
`03:49.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`one just has to ask`
`03:49.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`;)`
`03:49.44`	`OmniColos`	`yeah very smart :D`
`03:49.58`	`LinuxNIT`	`thana is a very very smart guy`
`03:50.01`	`OmniColos`	`as long as one can connect to the internet to begin with ;-)`
`03:50.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:50.15`	`OmniColos`	`that filters out alot of users to this chan :D`
`03:50.19`	`roxville`	`(Thanks LinuxNIT and the #Elive channel for this description) <-- awwww...`
`03:50.32`	`roxville`	`and who taught LinuxNIT how to do it... huh???`
`03:50.55`	`OmniColos`	`you may also want a web based irc on your site...`
`03:50.58`	`roxville`	`:D`
`03:51.12`	`OmniColos`	`I've done that with herena forge and archopen`
`03:51.37`	`OmniColos`	`I made a nifty script so that web irc logs in with a registered users nick`
`03:51.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`roxville and who taught LinuxNIT how to do it... huh??? <<<<,do what?`
`03:52.08`	`roxville`	`that does indeed sound nifty`
`03:52.28`	`roxville`	`make eapps of course!`
`03:52.35`	`*** part/#elive LinuxNIT-uhoh (n=Elive_us@ppp-70-245-27-9.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net)`
`03:52.39`	`*** join/#elive LinuxNIT-uhoh (n=Elive_us@ppp-70-245-27-9.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net)`
`03:52.39`	`OmniColos`	`that way users are encouraged to register on the site too`
`03:53.15`	`OmniColos`	`I'm sure someone has made an irc client for drupal`
`03:53.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`roxville (Thanks LinuxNIT and the #Elive channel for this description) <-- awwww...`
`03:53.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`roxville and who taught LinuxNIT how to do it... huh??? <<<< roxville i dont understand.... :-/`
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`03:54.04`	`roxville`	`<roxville> make eapps of course!`
`03:54.20`	`LinuxNIT`	`ohhhhhhhhhh`
`03:54.21`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:54.26`	`LinuxNIT`	`i seeeeee`
`03:54.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`ding`
`03:54.39`	`roxville`	`lol`
`03:54.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`i dunno who taught me.... been too long so i forgot lol`
`03:55.17`	`LinuxNIT`	`but i know who taught me most of what i know of linux :D`
`03:55.18`	`LinuxNIT`	`hehe`
`03:55.28`	`roxville`	`it's ok... i like to work in the shadows... and ppl hear my startup sound at least three times before they get tired of it and turn it off :)`
`03:55.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:55.45`	`OmniColos`	`I had a hard time switching icon sets...`
`03:55.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`well i still have mine enabled`
`03:55.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`......`
`03:56.01`	`LinuxNIT`	`couldnt figure out how to turn it off`
`03:56.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`haha jk`
`03:56.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`i like it`
`03:56.12`	`roxville`	`LOL... that's good!`
`03:56.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`sounds cool`
`03:56.18`	`OmniColos`	`I downloaded a new set and when I soft-linked to the folder all my menus got screwed up`
`03:56.41`	`roxville`	`OmniColos, you basically have to make a bunch of new eapps to be able to switch icon set`
`03:56.50`	`OmniColos`	`eew`
`03:56.54`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeah`
`03:56.59`	`OmniColos`	`thats painful`
`03:57.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`kinda sucks it that regard`
`03:57.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`but eh`
`03:57.18`	`LinuxNIT`	`i like elive to much to care about that`
`03:57.18`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:57.24`	`roxville`	`no pain, no gain`
`03:57.59`	`OmniColos`	`well whats the point of being "the most configurable desktop" when its so painful for most users?`
`03:58.37`	`roxville`	`that's what "configurable" means... at this point`
`03:58.45`	`OmniColos`	`with a live disto and live install you're audience is going to have a lot more joe-user types`
`03:59.02`	`OmniColos`	`*your`
`04:00.10`	`OmniColos`	`also a few themes for elpanel would be consistant with the themability of elive`
`04:00.15`	`OmniColos`	`;-)`
`04:00.44`	`OmniColos`	`there does not seem to be any doc on how to make an alternate theme`
`04:00.57`	`roxville`	`yeah,,, i started making a theme for elpanel...`
`04:01.22`	`roxville`	`or a few, actually... but it's kinda tough with the way it's made`
`04:01.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmm you want docs on how to make a theme when you are thinking of joe-user?`
`04:01.54`	`OmniColos`	`well a selection of thems would be ideal`
`04:02.08`	`OmniColos`	`but at least some docs for the enthusiast`
`04:02.21`	`OmniColos`	`if its possible without major code-diving`
`04:03.08`	`OmniColos`	`"Damnit Jim, I'm an artist, not a code junkie!"`
`04:03.34`	`OmniColos`	`<can you tell I'm highly caffinated?"`
`04:04.33`	`roxville`	`OmniColos, go to /usr/share/entrance/themes`
`04:04.46`	`OmniColos`	`one thing I REALLY love about engage is that it can stay ontop of everything AND hidable simultaneously`
`04:04.48`	`roxville`	`copy darkrock.edj to your home folder`
`04:05.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`OmniColos one thing I REALLY love about engage is that it can stay ontop of everything AND hidable simultaneously <<<??????`
`04:05.33`	`OmniColos`	`yep`
`04:05.34`	`roxville`	`then in terminal: edje_decc darkrock.edj`
`04:05.54`	`OmniColos`	`darkrock is nice`
`04:06.11`	`roxville`	`and you can have a look at how the native e applications are built`
`04:06.15`	`OmniColos`	`one thing iirc, there is a power button but no reboot`
`04:06.30`	`roxville`	`yes, hold on`
`04:06.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`sight=website`
`04:06.37`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`04:06.55`	`roxville`	`http://www.cuddletech.com/edje/docs/html/edje_book.html`
`04:06.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`is not the enlightement site in the firefox bookmarks?`
`04:07.00`	`roxville`	`that's the bible`
`04:07.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`:O`
`04:07.12`	`OmniColos`	`that would be nice to have in the FF links too`
`04:07.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`OmniColos, that is more for dev than user`
`04:07.43`	`Mutacion`	`:o the bible`
`04:08.09`	`OmniColos`	`so why not have some dev links handy for potential elive devs?! hmm?!`
`04:09.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`maybe we should just pack everything imaginable into the 700mb cd.....`
`04:09.32`	`OmniColos`	`umm some links? cmon, a few k at most`
`04:10.02`	`roxville`	`lol Mutacion`
`04:10.12`	`LinuxNIT`	`besides OmniColos if you are a graphicss artist and would like E to be better why not start working on Ethmes moduels whatever to make things better`
`04:10.39`	`Mutacion`	`i need something.. :s`
`04:10.42`	`Mutacion`	`maybe..`
`04:10.46`	`OmniColos`	`believe me once I have my thesis together I'll be jumping back into graphics`
`04:10.47`	`Mutacion`	`maybe its time..`
`04:11.01`	`Mutacion`	`apt time-to`
`04:11.02`	`apt`	`it has been said that time-to is its HAMBRITA TIME!!!`
`04:11.02`	`Mutacion`	`xD`
`04:11.08`	`LinuxNIT`	`OmniColos, cool`
`04:11.14`	`OmniColos`	`I think elive is certainly worth my time, once I have some to spare`
`04:11.16`	`LinuxNIT`	`always good to have help ;)`
`04:11.24`	`roxville`	`yaaaaay! hambrita time!!!!!!!!!`
`04:11.43`	`Mutacion`	`brbr hambrita is calling me`
`04:13.08`	`OmniColos`	`in this gallery are some themes I made for Archopen's boot loader: http://archopen.org/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=2`
`04:13.55`	`OmniColos`	`I also made the ArchOpen logos`
`04:14.34`	`OmniColos`	`the author of the bootloader made it easy for me to test and import my art, so I went to town`
`04:16.20`	`Mutacion`	`apt hambrita`
`04:16.22`	`apt`	`methinks hambrita is to be hungry`
`04:16.28`	`Mutacion`	`^^`
`04:16.56`	`OmniColos`	`:D ty`
`04:17.20`	`OmniColos`	`muchas gracias`
`04:17.36`	`roxville`	`good job, OmniColos :)`
`04:17.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt x es en hambrita`
`04:18.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`04:18.03`	`Hambriton`	`er`
`04:18.45`	`El_Hambriton`	`my secret identity`
`04:19.53`	`El_Hambriton`	`my grandmother would say my use of linux is "Como el burro que toca la flauta"`
`04:20.31`	`roxville`	`mine would probably say something similar... but in swedish`
`04:20.43`	`Mutacion`	`"Como el burro que toca la flauta <-- como? no entendi`
`04:20.50`	`*** join/#elive Elive_knix (n=Elive_us@pc-64-112-104-200.cm.vtr.net)`
`04:20.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`mine has no idea that linux exists`
`04:21.01`	`Mutacion`	`de dodne eres pancho?`
`04:21.19`	`Mutacion`	`vives en gringolandia..pero eres grigno?`
`04:21.24`	`El_Hambriton`	`a hungry donkey sees a flute laying on the ground and as he puts his mouth around it to eat it, he accidently plays a note...`
`04:21.37`	`roxville`	`LinuxNIT, just show her the shelley blog :)`
`04:22.05`	`El_Hambriton`	`some townsperson witness the miraculous flute playing donkey and spreads the word around town`
`04:22.09`	`Mutacion`	`pass the url rox:p and whos shelly?`
`04:22.26`	`LinuxNIT`	`shes a liberal... dangerously explosive combo if the found the comparison of top me`
`04:22.35`	`LinuxNIT`	`me=men`
`04:22.48`	`Mutacion`	`:o`
`04:22.55`	`roxville`	`http://shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/linux-european-threat-to-our-computers.html`
`04:23.10`	`roxville`	`LinuxNIT, a liberal?`
`04:23.30`	`Mutacion`	`:o i can see`
`04:23.32`	`El_Hambriton`	`I'm in EEUU, Mutacion ce`
`04:23.59`	`roxville`	`LinuxNIT, i would say she is anything but liberal`
`04:24.00`	`El_Hambriton`	`Mexicano/Griego gringo`
`04:24.08`	`LinuxNIT`	`roxville, yes... like a democrat`
`04:24.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`roxville, my grandmother`
`04:24.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`04:25.07`	`roxville`	`oh...`
`04:25.09`	`roxville`	`:D`
`04:25.12`	`LinuxNIT`	`;)`
`04:25.41`	`Mutacion`	`:o now i understand what ur trying to say pancho :P`
`04:26.01`	`Mutacion`	`francisco = usa-frank ... mexico-pancho xD`
`04:26.08`	`roxville`	`Mutacion, we still don't know if this is a joke, or if someone actually IS this ignorant`
`04:27.41`	`El_Hambriton`	`lol that shelly page has to be comedy`
`04:28.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`one would hope`
`04:28.46`	`El_Hambriton`	`If I could go back in time I would sneak a penguin into the bible`
`04:28.50`	`roxville`	`it may... but i'm not so sure it is`
`04:29.06`	`roxville`	`hehe, great idea`
`04:29.24`	`El_Hambriton`	`just to rattle the neo-cons`
`04:29.56`	`El_Hambriton`	`just goes to show what a linux-using-ter'rist I am`
`04:30.09`	`roxville`	`"And though shalt nught fear the rage of the penguin, for it is a benevolent rage, that will spread peace and understanding among thee"`
`04:30.26`	`El_Hambriton`	`For the penguin is free and ever open`
`04:30.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`s/understanding/enlightenment`
`04:30.49`	`roxville`	`LOL`
`04:30.56`	`El_Hambriton`	`halleluja! The web-footed messiah has come!`
`04:31.22`	`roxville`	`"The penguin shalt spread enlightenment amongst thee"`
`04:31.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`hehehe`
`04:31.59`	`El_Hambriton`	`And though shalt not keep thine source closed, so that the light of GNU shall freely shine upon it!`
`04:32.16`	`roxville`	`hehe`
`04:32.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`and the people read it and go " wtf is GNU"`
`04:32.58`	`roxville`	`we coulkd probably squeeze it in among one of John's revelations...`
`04:33.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
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`04:33.41`	`El_Hambriton`	`Woe to those who fall under the temptation of proprietary software for it is the devil that hides it's code!`
`04:34.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`welcome Elive_user99`
`04:34.14`	`Elive_user99`	`any one know how much hard drive space elive needs?`
`04:34.18`	`El_Hambriton`	`I think I'll have to make a trip down south to preach the new gospel`
`04:34.21`	`roxville`	`"and thy shall reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number... or letters, actually... it's letters are: m.i.c.r.o.s.o.f.t."`
`04:34.27`	`El_Hambriton`	`lol`
`04:34.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`i belive 2.5 gigs to install but it uses like 1.7 after the install is done.`
`04:34.51`	`El_Hambriton`	`the mark of the beast is 640k`
`04:34.51`	`roxville`	`Elive_user99, about 2.6 gigs`
`04:35.01`	`roxville`	`2.5, sorry`
`04:35.20`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`04:35.33`	`Elive_user99`	`so there is no hope of installing it on my 512m cruiser mini`
`04:35.57`	`roxville`	`nope, not at this moment... sorry :/`
`04:36.07`	`El_Hambriton`	`And on the 7th day there was no more rebooting`
`04:36.20`	`MetaPhaze`	`is there a way to make it run a script at startup?`
`04:37.00`	`roxville`	`except when xorg, the GUI, hath a memleak...`
`04:37.35`	`roxville`	`MetaPhaze, what kind of script are you thinking about?`
`04:37.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`MetaPhaze, yes there is.`
`04:38.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`add the script to the /etc/init.d/ folder`
`04:38.24`	`LinuxNIT`	`be sure you have a proper shebang`
`04:38.46`	`MetaPhaze`	`I wrote a script to start my wlan card and copy backgrounds and themes and my host and network config settings in with one script... i want to run it at startup`
`04:39.01`	`OmniColos`	`The installation was tainted by bios and thus instability was introduced to the memory`
`04:39.05`	`MetaPhaze`	`I can't i am running from cd`
`04:39.33`	`LinuxNIT-uhoh`	`so you want to edit the cd?`
`04:39.40`	`MetaPhaze`	`yes`
`04:39.58`	`MetaPhaze`	`can i just dd it?`
`04:40.16`	`LinuxNIT-uhoh`	`thats a question for Thanatermesis_ or GPLGeek`
`04:40.19`	`LinuxNIT-uhoh`	`i dont know`
`04:40.38`	`MetaPhaze`	`i suppose they aren't here`
`04:40.48`	`LinuxNIT-uhoh`	`we shall see :D`
`04:40.59`	`MetaPhaze`	`:D`
`04:41.05`	`LinuxNIT-uhoh`	`i mentioning their names will have in a sense called them :D`
`04:41.09`	`OmniColos`	`But if one renounces the bios for open firmware the gates of GNU shall open to thee`
`04:42.20`	`MetaPhaze`	`i propose that devices come with flash chips that have the drivers and identification for the device on them so the os can extract it automatically... anyone second that motion?`
`04:42.41`	`OmniColos`	`heh I haven't been such an advocate since the Amiga days`
`04:42.58`	`MetaPhaze`	`ahh amiga`
`04:43.02`	`MetaPhaze`	`commodore`
`04:43.07`	`OmniColos`	`you'd think I'd have learned my lesson`
`04:43.08`	`MetaPhaze`	`the best pc ever built`
`04:43.23`	`OmniColos`	`it was truely awesome hardware`
`04:43.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`MetaPhaze, i have considered the idea of trying to mout the iso as writeable and adding to it but i have never tried this... nor do i know if an iso can be mounted writable. :D`
`04:43.56`	`MetaPhaze`	`yes i still have a 128 and a 64 and everything that comes with them`
`04:44.26`	`OmniColos`	`it took a 150mhz intel box to dethrone my 25mhz amiga`
`04:44.55`	`MetaPhaze`	`you could dd it mount it read only then copy it to a directory, edit it and remake it into iso and burn... hypethetically speaking`
`04:45.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`but the problem is just adding it to the /etc/init.d folder does not execut it at boot.`
`04:45.33`	`MetaPhaze`	`it takes a p2 to properly emu a 64`
`04:45.51`	`LinuxNIT`	`it requires links to specific areas as well.`
`04:46.35`	`MetaPhaze`	`i suppose i would have to read the debian documentation to figure out how to make it work right`
`04:46.54`	`LinuxNIT`	`can you not execute this script after boot?`
`04:47.03`	`MetaPhaze`	`i just did`
`04:47.12`	`MetaPhaze`	`or i wouldn't be here`
`04:47.14`	`MetaPhaze`	`:D`
`04:47.23`	`MetaPhaze`	`i'm on a laptop wirelessly`
`04:47.28`	`OmniColos`	`live cd's remind me of booting amiga off a floppy... full system on a disk`
`04:47.48`	`MetaPhaze`	`using ndiswrapper and winblows drivers`
`04:47.55`	`LinuxNIT`	`what card?`
`04:48.11`	`MetaPhaze`	`on a linksys wpc11b or something`
`04:48.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh`
`04:48.27`	`MetaPhaze`	`using the realteck 8180 drivers`
`04:49.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`what chipset is taht?`
`04:49.12`	`MetaPhaze`	`i'd have to pull it out of the cardbus to see`
`04:49.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`lspci`
`04:49.20`	`OmniColos`	`I wish xfe were more themable...`
`04:49.35`	`LinuxNIT`	`lspci gen tells the chipset`
`04:51.17`	`MetaPhaze`	`Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8189L 802.11b MAC (rev 20)`
`04:52.02`	`MetaPhaze`	`yeah that's how i found out in the first place :D`
`04:52.10`	`MetaPhaze`	`it's a pcmcia card`
`04:53.39`	`MetaPhaze`	`what sux is this laptop has no hard drive so i am stuck using usb flash drives for storage and swap`
`04:54.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`ahhhh`
`04:54.13`	`MetaPhaze`	`i wish i could get it to boot using usb but the bios doesn't support it`
`04:54.45`	`MetaPhaze`	`runs elive and knoppix well though`
`04:55.00`	`OmniColos`	`if you put a file in init.d, dont you still have to have a symlink to it in rcS ?`
`04:55.17`	`OmniColos`	`to get it to run at boot?`
`04:55.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`yes`
`04:55.32`	`MetaPhaze`	`all i needed to do to get online was ndiswrapper -i net8180.inf ; modprobe ndiswrapper ; and setup the lan settings`
`04:55.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`but thats irelevant since he cant add to thecd`
`04:55.49`	`LinuxNIT`	`kinda sucsk :-/`
`04:56.02`	`MetaPhaze`	`i saw something about hacking knoppix online so i know it can be done`
`04:56.12`	`OmniColos`	`hmm will elive have a problem with multisession?`
`04:56.37`	`LinuxNIT`	`multisessions?`
`04:56.43`	`*** part/#elive gnaunited (n=Alex@65-100-176-109.hlrn.qwest.net)`
`04:57.01`	`OmniColos`	`or leave elive as iso on a multidistro install dvd?`
`04:57.08`	`MetaPhaze`	`slackware comes with things to make their bootable cd and i bet a trip to morphix would be promising`
`04:57.17`	`OmniColos`	`dvd installs distro fo choice then runs config script`
`04:57.22`	`roxville`	`<OmniColos> But if one renounces the bios for open firmware the gates of GNU shall open to thee <-- LOL`
`04:57.32`	`OmniColos`	`amen`
`04:57.42`	`MetaPhaze`	`amen`
`04:57.54`	`roxville`	`amen :)`
`04:57.59`	`OmniColos`	`or maybe LOL=GNU's amen`
`04:58.14`	`roxville`	`good point`
`04:58.33`	`OmniColos`	`Praise be the GNU. LoL.`
`04:59.02`	`MetaPhaze`	`and the days shall come when the daemons from hell shall be cast down and microshaft will go belly up`
`04:59.22`	`MetaPhaze`	`did u all hear microsucks new thing... nxt?`
`04:59.33`	`OmniColos`	`For the GNU is the Alpha and the Beta. LOL.`
`05:00.01`	`MetaPhaze`	`the alpha the beta and the theta`
`05:01.08`	`OmniColos`	`in kernel 2.18 it is prophesized that there shall be wireless drivers for all. LOL.`
`05:01.08`	`roxville`	`MetaPhaze, btw... welcome to #elive... the friendliest and one of the goofiest linux channels`
`05:01.30`	`MetaPhaze`	`:D thanks... i've noticed...`
`05:01.36`	`roxville`	`:D`
`05:01.50`	`MetaPhaze`	`I love e`
`05:02.06`	`OmniColos`	`just drink plent of water`
`05:02.09`	`MetaPhaze`	`on my pc upstairs i run gentoo... i run e with kde`
`05:02.18`	`Taka0`	`:D`
`05:02.23`	`Taka0`	`pizza and red bull`
`05:02.26`	`Taka0`	`D:D:D:D:D:D`
`05:02.28`	`OmniColos`	`but not too much`
`05:02.28`	`roxville`	`Taka0, shut up`
`05:02.36`	`roxville`	`:)`
`05:02.37`	`Taka0`	`roxville okay`
`05:02.47`	`Taka0`	`but fuck you before I do shut up`
`05:02.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`05:02.52`	`OmniColos`	`:o`
`05:02.59`	`roxville`	`Taka0, btw... good to see that you are still alive :P`
`05:03.00`	`MetaPhaze`	`he he`
`05:03.14`	`Taka0`	`héhé`
`05:03.22`	`Taka0`	`was a bit busy lately`
`05:03.23`	`OmniColos`	`I wouldnt mind engage to replace the gnome panels`
`05:03.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`go Taka0 go ... give him some more`
`05:03.46`	`roxville`	`and... you can't do that, coz i told you to shut up before you said that... so it's doesn't count`
`05:04.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`roxville, you shut up`
`05:04.17`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt beat roxville`
`05:04.19`	`apt`	`ACTION beats roxville with a wetfish`
`05:04.21`	`Taka0`	`roxville ah fuck you , youre wrecking my brain`
`05:04.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt fuck roxville`
`05:04.39`	`roxville`	`OmniColos, you can do that... there are even howto's on it in the ubuntu forums`
`05:04.55`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt bad bot`
`05:04.56`	`apt`	`Bad bot, bad! No cookie for you!`
`05:05.01`	`MetaPhaze`	`lol`
`05:05.02`	`OmniColos`	`ok I better go before my wife has to come in here and shut me down...`
`05:05.05`	`MetaPhaze`	`funny`
`05:05.12`	`roxville`	`apt, shut everybody up`
`05:05.30`	`roxville`	`OmniColos, i have the same prob :)`
`05:05.33`	`GPLGeek`	`MetaPhaze, I could help you`
`05:05.47`	`LinuxNIT`	`see MetaPhaze i told you it would call him ... hehehe`
`05:05.49`	`GPLGeek`	`let me find a link`
`05:05.58`	`MetaPhaze`	`GPLGeek, thanks`
`05:06.01`	`roxville`	`apt, make coffe for OmniColos wife`
`05:06.02`	`apt`	make: *** No rule to make target `coffe for OmniColos wife'. Stop.
`05:06.04`	`OmniColos`	`I've seen some posts, but it looks problematic, roxville`
`05:06.05`	`Taka0`	`hehe`
`05:06.09`	`GPLGeek`	`understand that it's complex`
`05:06.22`	`roxville`	`apt, cook coffee for OmniColos wife`
`05:06.23`	`apt`	`ACTION puts on his apron and fires up the stove. "Your coffee will be ready in a little while, OmniColos wife."`
`05:06.25`	`GPLGeek`	`do you know how to use compressed file systems?`
`05:06.40`	`MetaPhaze`	`GPLGeek, i love complex it's the simple things that get me right apt?`
`05:07.05`	`GPLGeek`	`It would only run on your system only`
`05:07.23`	`MetaPhaze`	`yes i've read up on that... i need to make my own live cd :D`
`05:07.43`	`OmniColos`	`can I use the apt command?`
`05:07.45`	`MetaPhaze`	`I spend all day reading`
`05:08.14`	`GPLGeek`	`damn I really need to find this link`
`05:08.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`05:08.22`	`MetaPhaze`	`GPLGeek, I'd like to write a how to on the subject that would work for anyone`
`05:08.26`	`GPLGeek`	`I had reinstalled because I got a new computer`
`05:08.29`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt tell OmniColos no`
`05:08.37`	`OmniColos`	`apt, cook tombstone for please be patient while I insert this electrode`
`05:08.38`	`apt`	`ACTION puts on his apron and fires up the stove. "Your tombstone will be ready in a little while, please be patient while I insert this electrode."`
`05:08.41`	`GPLGeek`	`work for everyone?`
`05:08.48`	`GPLGeek`	`like have everyone remaster their own?`
`05:09.28`	`MetaPhaze`	`GPLGeek, like write a howto so a beginner could make thier own live cd from thier favorite distro`
`05:09.57`	`MetaPhaze`	`GPLGeek, maybe even script it`
`05:10.05`	`GPLGeek`	`"from their favorite distro" it better be debian specific`
`05:10.09`	`GPLGeek`	`or ubuntu specific`
`05:10.12`	`GPLGeek`	`or elive specific`
`05:10.14`	`MetaPhaze`	`or code it c style`
`05:10.16`	`roxville`	`MetaPhaze, elive is already based on an easy way to make a live cd... or will be`
`05:10.17`	`GPLGeek`	`there is no one way for every distro`
`05:10.29`	`GPLGeek`	`dsslive.org`
`05:10.36`	`GPLGeek`	`that will give you a base to work from`
`05:10.38`	`OmniColos`	`apt, cook windows installation for meanwile breath deeply as your harddisk crashes`
`05:10.39`	`apt`	`ACTION puts on his apron and fires up the stove. "Your windows installation will be ready in a little while, meanwile breath deeply as your harddisk crashes."`
`05:10.39`	`roxville`	`http://www.dsslive.org.test.ibiblio.org/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page`
`05:11.00`	`GPLGeek`	`the debased scripts set is the best way to make a livecd`
`05:11.06`	`roxville`	`OmniColos, hehe`
`05:11.21`	`MetaPhaze`	`what about morphix?`
`05:11.24`	`OmniColos`	`me and the bots get along well`
`05:11.27`	`OmniColos`	`gnite`
`05:11.53`	`roxville`	`MetaPhaze, elive right now is based on morphix.... but it had too many problems`
`05:12.03`	`GPLGeek`	`http://www.dsslive.org/mediawiki/index.php/How_To:_Lazy_Mode`
`05:12.04`	`roxville`	`good night OmniColos`
`05:12.24`	`MetaPhaze`	`GPLGeek, thanks`
`05:12.24`	`GPLGeek`	`If you want to remaster elive for a specific system you need to install it, remove EVERY package you do not need/want`
`05:12.31`	`GPLGeek`	`and then you need to use some commands`
`05:12.40`	`GPLGeek`	`you can repackage it and recompress it and put it into an iso`
`05:12.58`	`GPLGeek`	`or you can transfer it to a usb pendrive and just run grub to install it on to the pendrive`
`05:13.21`	`roxville`	`have a good night ppl`
`05:13.24`	`GPLGeek`	`some pendrives need you to use something other than grub... in that case it's probably syslinux or something`
`05:13.30`	`GPLGeek`	`have a good night roxville`
`05:14.05`	`MetaPhaze`	`i'm using a cruiser mini but if i am going to do this i might as well use a cd`
`05:14.16`	`MetaPhaze`	`he he`
`05:14.51`	`roxville`	`MetaPhaze, doing things like that WILL be easier with elive 0.5`
`05:14.55`	`roxville`	`and dsslive`
`05:15.09`	`MetaPhaze`	`dsslive is debian based?`
`05:15.20`	`roxville`	`but yes, we will need howtos on how to do it... so welcome to the club :)`
`05:15.27`	`MetaPhaze`	`gentoo comes from debian right?`
`05:15.56`	`roxville`	`Taka0, <MetaPhaze> gentoo comes from debian right?`
`05:16.02`	`Taka0`	`LOL`
`05:16.10`	`Taka0`	`kill him someone please`
`05:16.15`	`roxville`	`that was funny?`
`05:16.40`	`roxville`	`MetaPhaze, yes, gentoo comes from debian`
`05:16.42`	`GPLGeek`	`MetaPhaze, don't reinvent the wheel. dss would get you running in a second`
`05:16.51`	`MetaPhaze`	`let me rephrase that gentoo has it's roots in debian`
`05:17.09`	`GPLGeek`	`dss based elive .5 is debian based`
`05:17.17`	`MetaPhaze`	`no i won't reinvent the wheel`
`05:17.20`	`GPLGeek`	`you can use the repositories`
`05:17.26`	`roxville`	`yes, i think it does... but don't say that if there are any gentooists present...`
`05:17.29`	`Taka0`	`I miss gentoo again`
`05:17.42`	`Taka0`	`BUT`
`05:17.42`	`MetaPhaze`	`i'm a gentooist`
`05:17.44`	`MetaPhaze`	`:D`
`05:17.52`	`Taka0`	`me too me too!`
`05:17.54`	`Taka0`	`:D`
`05:18.14`	`MetaPhaze`	`i run e and kde together on my gentoo box`
`05:18.17`	`LinuxNIT`	`whats bed?`
`05:18.25`	`MetaPhaze`	`not sure`
`05:18.28`	`roxville`	`or "gentiot" as we call them...`
`05:18.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`this word is not familiar to me`
`05:18.39`	`Taka0`	`LinuxNIT somewhere where you have sex with girls I think :P`
`05:18.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh that thing`
`05:18.57`	`LinuxNIT`	`wondered what that was called`
`05:19.09`	`MetaPhaze`	`some people do some other s word in them but i don't know what that one is`
`05:19.21`	`LinuxNIT`	`:O`
`05:19.33`	`GPLGeek`	`It is my opinion that gentoo is a good distro. I know that people can distro hop depending on what they want to do and what type of user they are.`
`05:19.38`	`MetaPhaze`	`but the sobe gold keeps me moving`
`05:19.40`	`GPLGeek`	`everything has its place, we just want to make things better`
`05:20.12`	`LinuxNIT`	`poor roxville`
`05:20.19`	`MetaPhaze`	`i use gentoo elive knoppix slackware and debian on my netowrk and my cluster server is gentoo`
`05:20.58`	`MetaPhaze`	`i even have a plan9 box too`
`05:21.10`	`GPLGeek`	`these days hand bootstrapping does not help much if any. We did tests. The use flags are still nice.`
`05:21.48`	`MetaPhaze`	`no it doesn't help much but it only puts what you want in, in`
`05:22.07`	`MetaPhaze`	`i use gentoo for portage`
`05:22.17`	`Taka0`	`the rc system is nice too`
`05:22.17`	`MetaPhaze`	`linux is linux is linux`
`05:22.31`	`MetaPhaze`	`distro wars go nowhere it's all linux`
`05:22.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`yes..... except ubuntu... its just wierd.....`
`05:22.59`	`GPLGeek`	`Portage, rc, use flags, nice... not exactly what we want to put in front of all of these end users though`
`05:23.01`	`LinuxNIT`	`haha jk`
`05:23.01`	`MetaPhaze`	`check out this page me and another guy are putting together`
`05:23.31`	`MetaPhaze`	`www.openlinuxproject.org`
`05:23.56`	`MetaPhaze`	`xandros is a pretty windows user friendly distro`
`05:23.57`	`MetaPhaze`	`brb`
`05:25.19`	`GPLGeek`	`I honestly hate linux that wants to charge each end user`
`05:25.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`;)`
`05:25.24`	`GPLGeek`	`in practice`
`05:25.41`	`MetaPhaze`	`me to`
`05:26.05`	`MetaPhaze`	`i am not fond of xandros but my friend is linux illiterate and it works for him`
`05:26.29`	`Mutacion`	`well bye ppl`
`05:26.30`	`MetaPhaze`	`he knows not what he does (not one shell command)`
`05:26.31`	`Mutacion`	`time to go`
`05:26.33`	`Mutacion`	`bai bai`
`05:26.36`	`Mutacion`	`apt bye`
`05:26.37`	`apt`	`l8tr`
`05:26.59`	`GPLGeek`	`What CMS does your site use`
`05:27.13`	`MetaPhaze`	`CMS?`
`05:27.31`	`GPLGeek`	`content management system`
`05:28.21`	`MetaPhaze`	`It's his site... i just write code and howto's :D so i have no idea`
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`05:28.33`	`MetaPhaze`	`here is my site but it's far from finnished`
`05:28.43`	`MetaPhaze`	`http://mystrix.game-host.org`
`05:29.05`	`MetaPhaze`	`i code by hand`
`05:30.47`	`MetaPhaze`	`i have to change my domain name... i used to host nwn sof2 and ut2004 games on it`
`05:35.27`	`MetaPhaze`	`GPLGeek, any reason my wireless card's light for traffic doensn't blink?`
`05:36.23`	`LinuxNIT`	`my lights acted funny whe i used a linksys with ndiswrapper as well.... never knew why`
`05:37.05`	`MetaPhaze`	`it's beta or experemental so that's probably why`
`05:37.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`what is ... ndis?`
`05:37.28`	`MetaPhaze`	`the power light works :D`
`05:37.44`	`MetaPhaze`	`i forget`
`05:38.10`	`MetaPhaze`	`i took a class in novell 4.12 a long time ago but i don't remember`
`05:39.11`	`MetaPhaze`	`could be network device information service`
`05:39.45`	`MetaPhaze`	`but don't quote me on tat`
`05:39.47`	`MetaPhaze`	`that`
`05:56.42`	`MetaPhaze`	`later all off to make a livecd :D`
`06:09.17`	`yawlright`	`i just bumped my scrollback lines to 1000 cause you guys talk so friggin much`
`06:09.30`	`yawlright`	`:P`
`06:10.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
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`07:05.34`	`daurnimator`	`yo`
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`10:47.10`	`daurnimator`	`yo`
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`12:28.21`	`Duvelr`	`Hola`
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`13:10.51`	`get[Elive]`	`need remeber the command to see where on disk us most space used.`
`13:10.55`	`get[Elive]`	`*is`
`13:12.00`	`roxville`	`wow, i had no idea there even was such a command...`
`13:12.35`	`roxville`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:14.12`	`goldstein`	`df`
`13:14.36`	`goldstein`	`get[Elive], the command is df`
`13:14.54`	`get[Elive]`	`df -h is to see how much space left`
`13:15.19`	`get[Elive]`	`but i need to see where is the mos space used`
`13:15.28`	`get[Elive]`	`[root@hellfish ~]# df -h`
`13:15.28`	`get[Elive]`	`S.ficheros Tamaño Usado Disp Uso% Montado en`
`13:15.29`	`get[Elive]`	`/dev/sda1 14G 14G 0 100% /`
`13:15.29`	`get[Elive]`	`none 1004M 0 1004M 0% /dev/shm`
`13:15.29`	`get[Elive]`	`/dev/sda2 52G 31G 19G 62% /home`
`13:16.00`	`get[Elive]`	`it is not normal on a server have 14g os shit completely full`
`13:16.06`	`get[Elive]`	`its a simple centos`
`13:16.13`	`get[Elive]`	`without any strange things`
`13:17.31`	`goldstein`	`hum... i dont know the command..`
`13:17.52`	`goldstein`	`but it would be usefull`
`13:17.57`	`get[Elive]`	`to search where is the most space used`
`13:18.00`	`get[Elive]`	`in /`
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`14:12.43`	`daurnimator`	`is latest iso out?`
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`14:33.02`	`get[Elive]`	`find it`
`14:33.09`	`get[Elive]`	`du -hs name`
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`14:49.32`	`goldstein`	`am i online?`
`14:54.31`	`withoutclass`	`n`
`14:54.33`	`withoutclass`	`o`
`15:00.04`	`Nenillo`	`we are in your imagination`
`15:04.50`	`goldstein`	`lol`
`15:05.14`	`daurnimator`	`does the latest iso have SATA support?`
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`15:21.20`	`withoutclass`	`daurnimator, i hear that by loading a module while in the livecd, it is possible to install to sata, but as far as i know, sata is stilll....kaput`
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`15:50.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`welcome Elive_user`
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`16:03.13`	`dererk`	`apt, good morning`
`16:03.15`	`apt`	`Good morning! And in case I don't see you, good afternoon, good evening and goodnight!`
`16:03.27`	`dererk`	`^^`
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`17:12.36`	`Skovanden`	`apt seen Gwildor`
`17:12.39`	`apt`	`gwildor is currently on #elive (22h 2m 55s), last said: 'RL = real life.... "nut jsut ur O" = not jstu your opinion.....basically, that bitch is crazy retarted'.`
`17:13.22`	`Skovanden`	`lol wanker`
`17:17.28`	`wasynyt`	`good evening everyone`
`17:17.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`wb wasynyt`
`17:17.38`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:17.52`	`Skovanden`	`evening wasynyt`
`17:18.20`	`wasynyt`	`did gplgeek survive ?`
`17:18.32`	`LinuxNIT`	`dunno`
`17:18.36`	`wasynyt`	`:S`
`17:18.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`hes not here :-/`
`17:18.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`but im sure he did`
`17:19.19`	`wasynyt`	`:/`
`17:19.29`	`wasynyt`	`thats good to hear :)`
`17:22.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmm records show he was last on about 12 hrs ago`
`17:24.00`	`wasynyt`	`hmm`
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`17:25.12`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:25.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt seen roxville`
`17:25.41`	`apt`	`roxville <n=Elive_us@c-71-204-226-14.hsd1.sc.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 4h 13m 6s ago, saying: ' i need to reboot, brb'.`
`17:25.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`long reboot ;)`
`17:25.58`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:26.01`	`wasynyt`	`seems so`
`17:26.08`	`wasynyt`	`or it didnt boot`
`17:26.12`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`17:26.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`ctcp me... im curious as towhat it says`
`17:26.46`	`wasynyt`	`Apple Computer, Inc. is worth $60,166,590,800 in market value`
`17:26.52`	`wasynyt`	`thats some vallue`
`17:26.55`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeha`
`17:27.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeah`
`17:27.05`	`wasynyt`	`:)`
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`17:44.43`	`wasynyt`	`good evening Smjor`
`17:45.00`	`Smjor`	`good evening!`
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`17:45.35`	`wasynyt`	`good evening MetaPhaze`
`17:45.49`	`MetaPhaze`	`Hi wasynyt`
`17:46.05`	`Smjor`	`A stupid question, how do I address another user, so that it plays that sound...?`
`17:46.25`	`wasynyt`	`?`
`17:46.26`	`MetaPhaze`	`just type their name`
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`17:46.39`	`wasynyt`	`just like MetaPhaze said`
`17:46.45`	`wasynyt`	`good evening cornelius[cz]`
`17:46.50`	`MetaPhaze`	`Smjor, like this?`
`17:46.53`	`Smjor`	`YES!`
`17:47.10`	`MetaPhaze`	`type their name`
`17:47.20`	`cornelius[cz]`	`hi wasynyt`
`17:47.20`	`wasynyt`	`to autocomplite nick press tabulator... :D`
`17:47.31`	`Smjor`	`MetaPhaze, like this?`
`17:47.53`	`MetaPhaze`	`yes! good job Smjor and no question is a stupid question`
`17:48.05`	`Smjor`	`:o) thanx`
`17:48.18`	`MetaPhaze`	`least not if you ask me`
`17:48.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`only if you ask what is 1+1`
`17:48.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`;)`
`17:48.53`	`MetaPhaze`	`:O`
`17:48.55`	`MetaPhaze`	`:D`
`17:49.13`	`wasynyt`	`nope.. there is no such thing as stupid question....`
`17:49.32`	`cornelius[cz]`	`1+1 is 3! (in the meaning of natural add)`
`17:49.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`17:50.00`	`MetaPhaze`	`yes and sometimes 4`
`17:50.01`	`LinuxNIT`	`i guess it also depends on what base you use right`
`17:50.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`:D`
`17:50.13`	`MetaPhaze`	`or 12 if you take fertility drugs`
`17:50.18`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:50.28`	`Smjor`	`May I add, that one is well into volume two of encyclopædia mathematica, before the author dares the assumption that 1+1 equals two ;-p`
`17:53.01`	`wasynyt`	`:)`
`17:53.07`	`Smjor`	`But then, he was addicted to hashish...`
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`17:53.58`	`LinuxNIT`	`who said i was assuming that 1+1 = 2`
`17:53.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`;)`
`17:54.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`mwahahahahaha`
`17:54.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`:D`
`17:54.29`	`Smjor`	`lol`
`17:54.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`hehe`
`17:54.56`	`wasynyt`	`o_O`
`17:55.47`	`wasynyt`	`?`
`17:56.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`you looked at me i figured you must be in the same room`
`17:56.29`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:57.18`	`Smjor`	`well gotta go again. see you!`
`17:57.24`	`wasynyt`	`see you`
`17:57.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`bye Smjor`
`17:57.55`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh too late`
`17:57.58`	`LinuxNIT`	`:-/`
`17:58.00`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
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`17:59.47`	`gnaunited`	`apt America-vs-Linux is http://shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/linux-european-threat-to-our-computers.html`
`17:59.48`	`apt`	`okay, gnaunited`
`17:59.49`	`wasynyt`	`good evening gnaunited`
`17:59.53`	`gnaunited`	`hola`
`17:59.58`	`gnaunited`	`12:00 noon here`
`17:59.58`	`LinuxNIT`	`howwwwwwdy`
`18:00.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`1:00 here`
`18:00.08`	`wasynyt`	`21.00 here`
`18:00.28`	`wasynyt`	`LinuxNIT, you are on what...`
`18:00.31`	`wasynyt`	`?`
`18:00.46`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:00.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`web-based irc client`
`18:00.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`java`
`18:00.53`	`gnaunited`	`I hope you all got to read this investigative piece of reporting on the evil Linux.`
`18:01.02`	`gnaunited`	`apt america-vs-linux`
`18:01.03`	`apt`	`extra, extra, read all about it, america-vs-linux is http://shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/linux-european-threat-to-our-computers.html`
`18:01.15`	`LinuxNIT`	`http://www.rlscnetwork.com/sharedresources/chat.html?Channel=elive&ServerName=irc.freenode.net`
`18:01.16`	`dererk`	`gnaunited, too late`
`18:01.21`	`gnaunited`	`I know`
`18:01.21`	`LinuxNIT`	`wasynyt go there`
`18:01.29`	`wasynyt`	`i have allready`
`18:01.31`	`dererk`	`gnaunited, I already post it about 3 days before ;)`
`18:01.36`	`wasynyt`	`sad sad thing`
`18:01.38`	`gnaunited`	`Just making sure EVERYONE knows about stupid people`
`18:01.47`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`18:01.53`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:02.05`	`LinuxNIT`	`wasynyt thats what im using atm`
`18:02.09`	`wasynyt`	`hmm`
`18:02.10`	`dererk`	`gnaunited, what? you find stupid that articule?`
`18:02.17`	`dererk`	`No, It's very very serious!`
`18:02.19`	`wasynyt`	`see what it is`
`18:02.40`	`dererk`	`I mean, the woman mental condition xD`
`18:02.52`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:03.04`	`wasynyt`	`it so odd it could be true`
`18:03.06`	`dererk`	`"insane in the brain"`
`18:03.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`we should use linux to hack her site heheh`
`18:03.20`	`dererk`	`:0`
`18:03.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`wouldnt that be ironic`
`18:03.34`	`dererk`	`LinuxNIT is known as AGreatHacker`
`18:03.58`	`dererk`	`LinuxNIT, nevermind, ask wasynyt, he knows :D`
`18:04.02`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`18:04.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmmm wasynyt`
`18:04.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`ill have to talk to ya some time`
`18:04.23`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`18:04.27`	`wasynyt`	`hmm "her" server runs on linux :S`
`18:04.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`lmfao`
`18:04.37`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:04.40`	`dererk`	`LOL`
`18:04.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`you should post that and tell here`
`18:04.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`*her`
`18:04.52`	`wasynyt`	`someone has already done that`
`18:04.58`	`LinuxNIT`	`or maybe i will`
`18:04.59`	`wasynyt`	`just read the comments`
`18:04.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`18:05.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh its already there/`
`18:05.08`	`LinuxNIT`	`?`
`18:05.37`	`wasynyt`	`yes it is...`
`18:05.42`	`LinuxNIT`	`awsome`
`18:05.48`	`wasynyt`	`blog.com is aparently owned by google`
`18:05.54`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:06.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`ohh the irony`
`18:06.12`	`dererk`	`LMAP`
`18:06.15`	`dererk`	`LMAO*`
`18:06.17`	`LinuxNIT`	`lmap?`
`18:06.18`	`dererk`	`TRY this`
`18:06.18`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`18:06.37`	`dererk`	`http://shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/linux-european-threat-to-our-computersddddd.html`
`18:06.37`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:06.39`	`dererk`	`try it`
`18:06.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`pm it to me`
`18:06.46`	`dererk`	`and look at the bottom`
`18:06.54`	`LinuxNIT`	`i cant copy out of this damn window`
`18:07.19`	`dererk`	`LinuxNIT, put something wrong to see the Httpd message`
`18:07.28`	`dererk`	`It throws THREE Signs xD`
`18:07.36`	`dererk`	`Look at them xD`
`18:07.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`?`
`18:07.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`i cant`
`18:07.54`	`LinuxNIT`	`i cant see the whole url and i cant copy it`
`18:08.01`	`wasynyt`	`:S`
`18:08.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`pm it to me`
`18:08.05`	`dererk`	`LinuxNIT, just copy shelleytherepublican.com/afuckingjoke`
`18:08.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`i fucking cant`
`18:08.16`	`dererk`	`wasynyt, did you see it?`
`18:08.17`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:08.19`	`wasynyt`	`yes`
`18:08.21`	`dererk`	`xD`
`18:08.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`i cant copy out of thewindow`
`18:08.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`it web-based java irc client`
`18:08.35`	`wasynyt`	`type it then`
`18:08.53`	`dererk`	`LinuxNIT, lazy! type it! xD`
`18:09.00`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:09.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`i can type the shorter one`
`18:09.26`	`LinuxNIT`	`but i could not see all of the first one... therefore typeing it would not work`
`18:09.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`so neeeeeeee`
`18:09.44`	`dererk`	`"Tristan, you're a fucking idiot. Please go jump off a building along with all your idiot friends.. Oh, I forgot, you don't have any.`
`18:09.44`	`dererk`	`Asshole."`
`18:09.46`	`dererk`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`18:10.09`	`wasynyt`	`dererk, thats not nice :D`
`18:10.23`	`dererk`	`wasynyt, it's on the comments`
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`18:10.46`	`ChatUser`	`hehe oopps`
`18:11.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`typed into the curent window lol`
`18:11.08`	`LinuxNIT`	`that was dumb`
`18:11.17`	`wasynyt`	`dererk, i know that...`
`18:11.25`	`wasynyt`	`still it is not nice`
`18:11.33`	`wasynyt`	`dumb or not`
`18:11.56`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:12.02`	`dererk`	`Yeah, In fuck, I was wondering how could the comments be about 90% of the size of the page xD`
`18:12.08`	`dererk`	`s/fuck/fact/`
`18:12.10`	`dererk`	`xDDD`
`18:12.45`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
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`18:13.09`	`wasynyt`	`thats what you get when you publish something like that`
`18:13.37`	`dererk`	`"Also I would like to mention that Apple's 'Mac Os X' is a real threat, too. This damn extrem leftwing company is giving millions to the democ-rats!!!" <--- lmao`
`18:14.16`	`wasynyt`	`wasynyt Apple Computer, Inc. is worth $60,166,590,800 in market value`
`18:14.35`	`wasynyt`	`truly comunist company`
`18:14.37`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:14.59`	`dererk`	`"democ-rats" XD`
`18:15.03`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:16.14`	`dererk`	`"Yes, Linux is a primative European clone; It is much less capable than Windows. In fact it omits features that were standard in Windows back in 1998;" <--- XDDDDDDDD`
`18:16.32`	`dererk`	`I can't stop laughing xD`
`18:16.39`	`wasynyt`	`hmm xo is rather the same than win98....`
`18:16.44`	`wasynyt`	`*xp`
`18:16.52`	`wasynyt`	`bit more uselful...`
`18:17.01`	`wasynyt`	`nut 98 is a lot faster`
`18:17.02`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:17.05`	`wasynyt`	`*but`
`18:17.56`	`dererk`	`Man, I just can't stop crashing my head to keyboard laughing xD`
`18:18.01`	`dererk`	`Just read this:`
`18:18.02`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:18.08`	`dererk`	`You cannot even buy popular utilities like Norton Security to compensate for this fact. There are no tools for common tasks like defragging a hard disk. God knows what you would use to send a fax or make a website. You cannot even get Front Page for Linux.`
`18:18.24`	`wasynyt`	`too bad no front page...`
`18:18.28`	`wasynyt`	`:(`
`18:20.16`	`dererk`	`What a great troll, though.`
`18:20.25`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`18:20.32`	`dererk`	`I just can't stop laughing`
`18:20.37`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:20.41`	`dererk`	`this is great to ppl suffering xD`
`18:20.46`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:21.11`	`dererk`	`"Most of the internet is running on linux? Don't make me laugh!!!"`
`18:21.44`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
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`18:44.27`	`Mtraker`	`Hi`
`18:45.25`	`wasynyt`	`good evening Mtraker`
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`19:14.46`	`wasynyt`	`good night everyoen`
`19:14.51`	`wasynyt`	`*everyone`
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`20:48.21`	`Skovanden`	`apt seen Gwildor`
`20:48.25`	`apt`	`gwildor is currently on #elive (1h 7m 16s), last said: 'RL = real life.... "nut jsut ur O" = not jstu your opinion.....basically, that bitch is crazy retarted'.`
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`21:24.46`	`gnaunited`	`apt seen gnaunited`
`21:24.51`	`apt`	`gnaunited is currently on #elive (1h 7m 52s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 5s, last said: 'apt seen gnaunited'.`
`21:25.05`	`gnaunited`	`apt seen lilo`
`21:25.07`	`apt`	`lilo is currently on #debian (5d 6h 24m 57s) #asterisk (5d 6h 24m 57s) #kde (5d 6h 24m 57s) #handhelds.org (5d 6h 24m 57s), last said: 'anyway, i'll check around'.`
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`22:21.57`	`IcedEarth`	`so whats new in the world of elive?`
`22:27.52`	`leku`	`nada`
`22:27.57`	`leku`	`where are the elive devs`
`22:28.00`	`leku`	`i got a gripe`
`22:28.02`	`leku`	`8)`
`22:28.06`	`IcedEarth`	`ooh gripes`
`22:28.37`	`leku`	`xscreensaver is only covering part of my screen, probably 3/4th's`
`22:29.10`	`IcedEarth`	`?`
`22:29.31`	`leku`	`there is a beta release of elive going around in some small elite underground secret handshaking circles`
`22:29.38`	`IcedEarth`	`yeah`
`22:29.40`	`IcedEarth`	`what 5`
`22:29.41`	`IcedEarth`	`?`
`22:29.47`	`leku`	`it's very existence is a closely guarded secret`
`22:29.50`	`IcedEarth`	`you sound so bitter`
`22:29.53`	`leku`	`i cannot confirm or deny`
`22:30.08`	`leku`	`yeah dude i am bitter`
`22:30.19`	`leku`	`i am old and cranky and i just expect everything to WORK`
`22:30.41`	`IcedEarth`	`yes, with elive being development`
`22:30.45`	`IcedEarth`	`you cant expect much`
`22:30.48`	`IcedEarth`	`and its all done for free`
`22:30.52`	`IcedEarth`	`no big corps here`
`22:30.53`	`leku`	`i can expect that my issues will be fixed`
`22:30.57`	`IcedEarth`	`so i would be happy man`
`22:30.58`	`IcedEarth`	`I am`
`22:31.04`	`leku`	`because they are not only issues that concern me but the rest of the community as well`
`22:31.05`	`IcedEarth`	`even if things go bang, very occasionally`
`22:31.10`	`leku`	`so if i can complain about something and get it fixed, we all benefit`
`22:31.17`	`IcedEarth`	`really, have I been away that long`
`22:31.26`	`leku`	`you don't think that's how it works?`
`22:31.32`	`IcedEarth`	`not sure`
`22:31.34`	`leku`	`how do you think linux has gotten to where it is today?`
`22:31.37`	`IcedEarth`	`im just happy with what I get?`
`22:31.38`	`IcedEarth`	`Not sure`
`22:31.41`	`IcedEarth`	`from community effort`
`22:31.42`	`leku`	`well I am mostly`
`22:32.11`	`leku`	`but most distributions are pretty mature now`
`22:32.12`	`IcedEarth`	`I tend not to moan too much`
`22:32.19`	`IcedEarth`	`true, but elive is very new`
`22:32.23`	`leku`	`indeed`
`22:32.25`	`IcedEarth`	`and v small development team`
`22:32.29`	`leku`	`but it will never get better if the developers don't know what to fix right?`
`22:32.30`	`IcedEarth`	`so hey, I cut them slack`
`22:32.33`	`leku`	`i am`
`22:32.39`	`leku`	`i'm not holding anyone's feet to the fire`
`22:32.43`	`IcedEarth`	`well, theres the wiki`
`22:32.45`	`IcedEarth`	`and the forum`
`22:32.47`	`leku`	`the wiki is garbage`
`22:32.48`	`IcedEarth`	`for bugs etc`
`22:32.52`	`IcedEarth`	`:P`
`22:32.53`	`leku`	`they need a bug tracking tool`
`22:32.58`	`leku`	`there is nothing useful in the wiki either`
`22:33.02`	`leku`	`people need to start contributing shit`
`22:33.20`	`leku`	`or elive won't be around long 8)`
`22:33.20`	`IcedEarth`	`true`
`22:33.29`	`IcedEarth`	`:P`
`22:33.32`	`leku`	`and to anyone listening`
`22:33.34`	`leku`	`i'm willing to help`
`22:33.45`	`IcedEarth`	`well, we do the little we can`
`22:34.01`	`IcedEarth`	`But as I say its not a big team`
`22:34.03`	`IcedEarth`	`so hey`
`22:34.09`	`leku`	`which also surprsies me`
`22:34.11`	`IcedEarth`	`its mainly Thanas project`
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`22:34.53`	`leku`	`i've always been dissapointed in E`
`22:34.58`	`leku`	`it has a lot of potential but no true leader`
`22:35.02`	`IcedEarth`	`why?`
`22:35.08`	`IcedEarth`	`ah well you cant have it all`
`22:36.06`	`leku`	`i remember watching rasterman and nettwerk port E to nettwerk's sidewinder at linuxexpo 96 and it was impressive then`
`22:36.10`	`leku`	`but i don't think it's changed a whole lot`
`22:36.30`	`IcedEarth`	`well, im not that up with it`
`22:36.41`	`IcedEarth`	`but it looks nice and works, so hey`
`22:36.46`	`IcedEarth`	`I can do my work on it day to day`
`22:36.49`	`leku`	`yeah`
`22:36.49`	`IcedEarth`	`so theres no problem here`
`22:36.51`	`leku`	`same`
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`22:52.26`	`gnaunited`	`Well, as for the secret development: http://www.senternal.com/elive/`
`22:52.26`	`gnaunited`	`The secret IRC channel: #elive-unstable`
`22:52.26`	`gnaunited`	`The development Wiki: http://thanatermesis.org/trac/wiki/DevelRelease`
`22:53.11`	`gnaunited`	`And yes, .5 has had two beta's released. You are more that welcome to download it and test for bugs`
`22:54.59`	`gnaunited`	`Anything else I can help anyone with?`
`22:55.30`	`simonpca`	`re-reboot...`
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`23:10.41`	`IcedEarth`	`keep up the good work y'all`
`23:11.13`	`yawlright`	`work?...here?...bah!`
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`23:21.46`	`withoutclass`	`yo ho ho`
`23:23.12`	`Tanner`	`and a bottle of rum?`
`23:23.30`	`withoutclass`	`indeed`
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`23:31.20`	`MetaPhaze`	`what is elive using for sound... mine works except for the themes`
`23:31.36`	`withoutclass`	`MetaPhaze, usually alsa`
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`23:32.02`	`withoutclass`	`as for themes....this is most likely more of a e related thing`
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`23:32.23`	`MetaPhaze`	`if i turn on esd then the themes work but the rest doesn't`
`23:32.33`	`MetaPhaze`	`but on my gentoo box i run both just fine`
`23:32.45`	`withoutclass`	`dunno`
`23:33.04`	`withoutclass`	`what theme sounds are you talking about`
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`23:33.23`	`MetaPhaze`	`when i click or a window pops up`
`23:33.38`	`MetaPhaze`	`abtoengreen-default-0.75`
`23:33.53`	`MetaPhaze`	`oops abtoenalloygreen-default-0.75`
`23:34.15`	`withoutclass`	`this theme is not in the repo`
`23:34.31`	`MetaPhaze`	`no`
`23:34.34`	`MetaPhaze`	`i imported it`
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`23:34.42`	`MetaPhaze`	`well i put it where it needs to be`
`23:34.45`	`withoutclass`	`which means it is not in there for a reason`
`23:35.02`	`MetaPhaze`	`.e16/themes/abtoenalloydefault-0.75`
`23:35.40`	`MetaPhaze`	`well it works fine if i use esd but then the other sound doesn't work... and the other themes that were in there by default their sound doesn't work either`
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`23:35.56`	`withoutclass`	`to get other things using esd, you must configure them to do so`
`23:36.11`	`withoutclass`	`didnt know themes had sound`
`23:36.17`	`withoutclass`	`guess im just used to that`
`23:36.24`	`MetaPhaze`	`well everything that has sound works now just not the themes`
`23:36.48`	`withoutclass`	`dunno`
`23:36.58`	`simonpca`	`re-re-boot`
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`23:39.20`	`MetaPhaze`	`i guess i'm just too much power user for elive`
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`23:39.35`	`withoutclass`	`qiubole dererk`
`23:39.59`	`withoutclass`	`MetaPhaze, again, you have installed a theme not supported by elive, so results may vary`
`23:40.27`	`MetaPhaze`	`well it works with esd i think its an esd and alsa problem`
`23:40.40`	`withoutclass`	`no idea`
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`23:40.47`	`withoutclass`	`im not a dev`
`23:40.55`	`roxville`	`MetaPhaze, you installed an e16 theme?`
`23:41.07`	`dererk`	`withoutclass, howdy`
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`23:41.23`	`dererk`	`howdy to you too roxville`
`23:41.48`	`roxville`	`it's a hit and miss... most e16 themes are kinda old, and e16 has been upgraded several times... so it's not certain at all that the themes will work`
`23:41.57`	`roxville`	`howdy dererk`
`23:41.59`	`roxville`	`:)`
`23:42.15`	`salah`	`hola amigos`
`23:42.28`	`withoutclass`	`hola`
`23:42.29`	`roxville`	`hola salah`
`23:42.36`	`withoutclass`	`hi roxville`
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`23:42.46`	`roxville`	`hi withoutclass`
`23:43.20`	`dererk`	`Hi salah`
`23:43.27`	`salah`	`hi dererk`
`23:43.29`	`dererk`	`Where is dulceh? :P`
`23:43.44`	`roxville`	`MetaPhaze, do you have a link to that theme?`
`23:43.52`	`Elive_user`	`hola`
`23:44.06`	`dererk`	`Welcome Elive_user`
`23:44.08`	`Elive_user`	`alguen sabe de donde puedo conseguir temas para el elive??`
`23:44.12`	`Elive_user`	`lo akbo de instalar`
`23:44.41`	`MetaPhaze`	`roxville i can get you a link hold on hacking into a county computer right now wait 5 mins`
`23:44.50`	`dererk`	`karl1t0s, temas de que app?`
`23:45.03`	`karl1t0s`	`para Elive`
`23:45.08`	`karl1t0s`	`es decir themes`
`23:45.16`	`roxville`	`one that am using... and it works, is 23oz glass... but i have no idea how your theme looks`
`23:45.19`	`karl1t0s`	`se me instalo el dr16`
`23:46.26`	`dererk`	`karl1t0s, Hay cerca de 20 app a las que se les puede instalar themes...`
`23:46.41`	`karl1t0s`	`aja donde me los bajo???`
`23:46.46`	`dererk`	`Xmms, e16, e17, entrance, Engage, e-modules... etc`
`23:46.57`	`karl1t0s`	`para e16`
`23:47.00`	`karl1t0s`	`y demas`
`23:47.00`	`roxville`	`thana told me he has tried ALL the 160 or so themes for e16...`
`23:47.02`	`withoutclass`	`MetaPhaze> roxville i can get you a link hold on hacking into a county computer right now wait 5 mins <--zomg leet haxor int he room =X`
`23:47.08`	`karl1t0s`	`quiero temas para e16, engage`
`23:47.09`	`dererk`	`karl1t0s, fijate que en la barra tenes un lugar donde dice "Synaptics"`
`23:47.31`	`dererk`	`perdon, Synaptic`
`23:47.44`	`karl1t0s`	`ya la estoy ejecutando`
`23:47.47`	`dererk`	`Ahi actualiza la lista de paquetes, y luego pone una busqueda de "Theme"`
`23:47.48`	`karl1t0s`	`q busco`
`23:47.54`	`karl1t0s`	`ok`
`23:48.16`	`dererk`	`karl1t0s, Themes :)`
`23:48.20`	`karl1t0s`	`otra cosa pq este elive no monta los pendrive como kde y gnome hay que hacerlo manual`
`23:48.27`	`dererk`	`Sino tambien podes bajar de get-e.org`
`23:48.40`	`karl1t0s`	`me meti y sale es para e17`
`23:48.45`	`dererk`	`Si, los monta, karl1t0s.`
`23:48.54`	`dererk`	`Que version estas usando?`
`23:49.04`	`karl1t0s`	`me baje el cd Elive`
`23:49.09`	`karl1t0s`	`lo instale`
`23:49.16`	`karl1t0s`	`el mas reciente`
`23:49.20`	`karl1t0s`	`me lo baje ayer`
`23:49.32`	`karl1t0s`	`al instalar se instalo y puso fue e16 no e17`
`23:50.52`	`dererk`	`karl1t0s, Cuando inicias aparece una ventana con una "e" girando en la parte superior izq de la pantalla`
`23:51.00`	`karl1t0s`	`y otra cosa estoy detras de un proxy http como hago para que synaptic use el proxy http con a utentificacion????`
`23:51.10`	`karl1t0s`	`no`
`23:51.18`	`karl1t0s`	`si sale un a e pero no gira`
`23:51.33`	`karl1t0s`	`05y otra cosa estoy detras de un proxy http como hago para que synaptic use el proxy http con a utentificacion????`
`23:51.37`	`dererk`	`No te pide "User" y password?`
`23:51.56`	`karl1t0s`	`no`
`23:51.57`	`withoutclass`	`whaa? why did that show red text`
`23:52.02`	`karl1t0s`	`da error de conexion`
`23:52.10`	`karl1t0s`	`ya le meti el proxy como debe ser`
`23:52.21`	`dererk`	`withoutclass, 'cause your irc client is special ;)`
`23:52.31`	`dererk`	`karl1t0s, Hablo del Login`
`23:52.31`	`withoutclass`	`=S`
`23:52.42`	`MetaPhaze`	`ok done with that here comes the link`
`23:53.00`	`karl1t0s`	`ya va`
`23:53.12`	`karl1t0s`	`primero como hago para que synaptic use el proxy http con a utentificacion????`
`23:54.22`	`dererk`	`karl1t0s, Configuracion -> preferencias -> proxy`
`23:54.44`	`karl1t0s`	`en donde???`
`23:54.52`	`karl1t0s`	`ya le coloque el proxy`
`23:55.03`	`karl1t0s`	`pero no hay un campo para poner el usuario ni el password`
`23:55.05`	`karl1t0s`	`y da error`
`23:55.08`	`karl1t0s`	`no se conecta`
`23:55.41`	`MetaPhaze`	`roxville, http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/abtoenalloygreen/`
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`23:56.09`	`dererk`	`karl1t0s, lo que dije del usuario y pass era para el login del X, no hablaba de Synaptic`
`23:56.26`	`karl1t0s`	`yo estoy con lo del synpatic`
`23:56.46`	`dererk`	`Si, y ya te entendi xD`
`23:57.07`	`karl1t0s`	`lo hare por consola`
`23:57.40`	`dererk`	`Necesitas usuario y pass para el proxy???`
`23:57.49`	`karl1t0s`	`si`
`23:57.55`	`karl1t0s`	`yo tengo uno`
`23:57.56`	`Duvelr`	`Hi, Hola, Bonjour!`
`23:58.05`	`karl1t0s`	`pero el synaptic no permite ponerselo`
`23:58.06`	`dererk`	`Vaya mierdæ xD`
`23:58.14`	`karl1t0s`	`asi q me voy por aptitude en consola`
`23:58.25`	`dererk`	`Si, es usuario@pass:proxy`

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