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| 00:29.02 | eManu | hi all! |
| 00:29.33 | Thanatermesis | hi eManu |
| 00:30.09 | eManu | hola Thanashiba :) |
| 00:30.22 | Thanashiba | hola eManu |
| 00:30.24 | Thanashiba | xD |
| 00:30.34 | Thanashiba | voy a salir de aqui que ya no lo uso... :) |
| 00:30.49 | eManu | hola Thanatermesis, Thanashiba , se me colo el tabulador XD |
| 00:31.11 | Thanatermesis | jeje |
| 00:31.39 | eManu | hoy he prbado la beta 5 |
| 00:32.59 | Thanatermesis | y que tal te va ? |
| 00:33.09 | Thanatermesis | es un sistema mucho mejor que las otras versiones anteriores de Elive ;) |
| 00:33.18 | Thanatermesis | no esta terminado pero... funciona muy bien ;) |
| 00:34.11 | eManu | si funciono bien, no la he mirado a fondo, salvo algun error inicial, por lo demas bien |
| 00:36.12 | eManu | el inicio esteticamente esta mejor, pero el color de las fuentes impide que se diferencien bien |
| 00:36.49 | Thanatermesis | las fuentes del... inicio ? |
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| 00:37.57 | eManu | si el menu inicial del isolinux |
| 00:38.35 | Thanatermesis | ah si... |
| 00:38.40 | Thanatermesis | bueno, aun no esta terminado |
| 00:38.46 | Thanatermesis | pero si, va a ser mucho mas bonito ;) |
| 00:39.00 | Thanatermesis | ah si, la fuente... tengo que mirar eso si, tengo que cambiarlo |
| 00:39.06 | Thanatermesis | e tenido muy poco tiempo ultimamente... |
| 00:39.35 | eManu | me imagino ;) |
| 00:40.48 | Thanatermesis | ademas tengo que sacar la primera version "developement" oficial antes del dia 25 que me voy a españa de vacaiones ;) |
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| 01:10.13 | eManu | Thanatermesis has visto esto : http://www.google.com/trends?q=kde%2C+gnome%2C+enlightenment%2C+xfce%2C+fluxbox&ctab=0&date=all&geo=all |
| 01:11.45 | eManu | enlightenment es el tercero escritorio en las busquedas :) |
| 01:12.54 | Thanatermesis | no esta mal... aunque esta un poco bajo... |
| 01:13.04 | Thanatermesis | quizas en un tiempo suba un poco mas ;) :) |
| 01:14.30 | eManu | bueno, no esta nada mal para no tener el apoyo de los poderosos en Linux, pero cada vez se oye hablar mas de él |
| 01:14.58 | egrub | Gustos de colores. |
| 01:15.06 | egrub | La gente quiere el kde que se parece mucho win xp |
| 01:15.22 | eManu | en eso estoy contigo egrub |
| 01:15.29 | egrub | :) |
| 01:17.19 | eManu | alguien ha programado en etk o ewl ? |
| 01:17.38 | Thanatermesis | que se parece... quizas busquen lo que parece mas facil... |
| 01:17.53 | Thanatermesis | eManu, si es una pregunta de eleccion, elige ETK ;) |
| 01:18.37 | eManu | si, era una pregunta de eleccion, gracias Thanatermesis ! |
| 01:18.43 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 01:19.41 | Thanatermesis | la API de etk es muy parecida a GTK, ademas hay un programita para pasar los interfaces hechos en "glade" a ETK ;) |
| 01:20.08 | Thanatermesis | etk es el futuro, es totalmente estable, no "peta" ni hay partes que no funcionan... es muy rapido de lanzar...etc |
| 01:20.32 | Thanatermesis | ewl es una mierda, nunca a funcionado bien, y seguramente morirá en su camino sin llegar a ser del todo "algo" |
| 01:21.06 | Thanatermesis | exhibit o extrakt son las copias de gqview y grip, en interfaces etk, usando su glade |
| 01:21.20 | eManu | no jodas !!, habia visto en la web de Codewarrior algunas capturas en las que entedà que hacia las interfaces con glade pero no sabia que existira un programa para su conversion |
| 01:21.42 | Thanatermesis | una prueba de lo malo que es ewl es lanzando eap_util_edit_noseque... nunca a funcionado bien por culpa de eso, ewl |
| 01:21.42 | felix | Thanatermesis: are you there? |
| 01:21.49 | felix | Thanatermesis: tengo un problema con el elive :( |
| 01:21.55 | Thanatermesis | dime felix |
| 01:22.07 | Thanatermesis | si eManu, eso es.. lo a programado codewarrior ;) |
| 01:22.07 | felix | Thanatermesis: no probé demasiado, pero en principio (además de verse MUUUUUY BONITO) |
| 01:22.10 | felix | no me funciona la red |
| 01:22.23 | felix | es raro, porque el driver de la placa de red es ultra genérico. |
| 01:22.25 | Thanatermesis | bueno... si te digo la verdad felix, a mi tampoco me va la red en esta maquina XD |
| 01:22.33 | felix | es un rtl8139 |
| 01:22.38 | Thanatermesis | es que ese kernel es muy viejo, y a saber como lo detecta ese sistema... |
| 01:22.42 | felix | ahhh |
| 01:22.42 | felix | ok |
| 01:22.45 | Thanatermesis | bueno, eso es un driver conocido |
| 01:22.48 | Thanatermesis | prueba de cargar el modulo |
| 01:22.51 | felix | sí, es un diver conocido |
| 01:22.51 | Thanatermesis | es algo de "too" |
| 01:22.52 | felix | probé |
| 01:22.58 | felix | modprobe rtl8139 |
| 01:22.58 | Thanatermesis | aha, no funcionó ? |
| 01:23.01 | felix | pero me dijo que nope |
| 01:23.04 | felix | que no tenía el driver |
| 01:23.07 | Thanatermesis | no.. ese no es |
| 01:23.08 | Thanatermesis | espera |
| 01:23.10 | felix | (arranqué con la primera opción de elive) |
| 01:23.13 | felix | dale, decime... :-D |
| 01:23.26 | Thanatermesis | 8139too es el modulo |
| 01:23.41 | Thanatermesis | y tiene pinta de estar en el kernel del liveCD |
| 01:24.03 | felix | excelente :) |
| 01:24.19 | felix | me había olvidado el nombre del driver porque en general siempre compilo todo dentro del kernel... en un rato me sumo al elive |
| 01:24.23 | felix | Thanatermesis: se ve REALMENTE bonito |
| 01:24.28 | felix | Thanatermesis: muy pero MUY buen trabajo |
| 01:24.31 | felix | Thanatermesis: felicitaciones!! |
| 01:24.36 | felix | no |
| 01:24.40 | felix | mejor voy a #elive-dev |
| 01:24.51 | Thanatermesis | gracias felix :) |
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| 01:37.50 | felix | Thanatermesis: che, no anduvo la red :( |
| 01:38.28 | egrub | felix, dhcpcd eth0 |
| 01:38.34 | unduality | Does anyone know why the command "eject" as root wont force out the cd. In Ubuntu i get no "the device is busy" message, it just eject the cd as it should do. I mean im ROOT it should obey. |
| 01:38.35 | felix | Thanatermesis: empieza a dar vueltas, pero no levanta la red |
| 01:38.40 | egrub | felix, que tarjeta de red usas? |
| 01:38.43 | felix | egrub: no probé eso... el tema es que tengo que rebootear cada vez |
| 01:38.49 | felix | egrub: 8139too , pero de notebook (no de pc) |
| 01:38.56 | felix | egrub: ya me había asado esto con kernels viejos |
| 01:39.11 | egrub | felix, modprobe? |
| 01:39.28 | felix | egrub: hice esto: |
| 01:39.31 | felix | modprobe 8139too |
| 01:39.32 | felix | dhclient |
| 01:39.33 | Thanatermesis | unduality, because you are using it |
| 01:39.45 | felix | si bien LEVANTA el módulo, no levanta la red. |
| 01:39.54 | felix | o sea, se queda dando vueltas... pero no levanta. |
| 01:40.00 | egrub | Que raro... |
| 01:40.10 | egrub | Debe ser un bug o algo asà |
| 01:40.12 | unduality | But in ubuntu that is not a problem. |
| 01:40.30 | felix | egrub: Ya tuve problemas con un 8139too |
| 01:40.36 | egrub | Ya veo |
| 01:40.45 | felix | egrub: anteriormente con otra notebook |
| 01:40.48 | egrub | felix, eso viene de intel? |
| 01:40.54 | felix | egrub: sí |
| 01:40.59 | egrub | Vaya... |
| 01:41.00 | felix | egrub: bah, la placa es de realtek |
| 01:41.15 | felix | egrub: pero es de esas notebooks que traen todo en el mother, de estas que vienen con los procesadores CELERON M |
| 01:41.19 | egrub | Creo que tiene este driver dentro de kernel 2.6.xx |
| 01:41.32 | felix | egrub: dentro del 2.4.x venía, pero no andaba tan bien me parece. |
| 01:41.50 | felix | egrub: alguna vez con una placa pcmcia en una notebook más vieja, pero con el mismo chipset de red, tuve este problema. |
| 01:41.51 | egrub | Por eso debes probar en 2.6.xx |
| 01:42.19 | egrub | Ya veo |
| 01:42.29 | egrub | Lo mejor es compilar el kernel para hacerlo funcionar correctamente. |
| 01:42.52 | unduality | Thanatermesis, My system hangs the cd/dvd combo very often. I cant mount/umount it and then i would like to "eject" as root. |
| 01:44.22 | felix | egrub: ya sé, pero tendría que instalar elive en la notebook y luego recompilar. |
| 01:44.35 | egrub | Si... |
| 01:44.36 | felix | egrub: no importa... ya ahora acabo de poner un repositorio de efl |
| 01:44.40 | unduality | Thanatermesis, This happens every time i try to play xvids from a dvd. |
| 01:44.44 | felix | egrub: así veo de poder aprender un poaquitito |
| 01:44.48 | felix | egrub: muchísimas gracias por la ayuda |
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| 01:44.55 | felix | egrub: realmente debo admitir que elive se ve PRECIOSO |
| 01:44.58 | egrub | felix, pero primero lo fijas dentro de kernel luego aportas a Thanatermesis sobre esto |
| 01:45.01 | felix | egrub: yo era la primera vez que lo probaba |
| 01:45.08 | felix | Thanatermesis: che |
| 01:45.13 | egrub | felix, si está wapo este elive. ;) |
| 01:45.22 | felix | Thanatermesis: después intentaré hacer funcionar la red. |
| 01:45.34 | felix | Thanatermesis: a ver cómo me va |
| 01:47.03 | eManu | bye colegas ! |
| 01:48.41 | Thanatermesis | unduality, well... but if you check the kernel messages in ubuntu you found a FLOOD of errors messages trying to read the CD device where actually all the data has... "dissapeared" |
| 01:49.40 | Thanatermesis | unduality, do you speak about a beta of Elive 0.5 ? |
| 01:50.58 | Thanatermesis | hum, i think to understand what happens... |
| 01:51.14 | Thanatermesis | maybe you have upgraded your system with a developement version of... |
| 01:51.14 | Thanatermesis | wait |
| 01:51.35 | unduality | Thanatermesis, Ok. I did not know that. No, this is the case of 0.4.2. Will there be a new .5 soon? |
| 01:52.02 | Thanatermesis | yes, before of the day 25 of this month i hope a release of the first 0.5 :) |
| 01:52.40 | unduality | Thanatermesis, Whohoo!! |
| 01:52.43 | Thanatermesis | unduality, you are on Elive right now, yes ? |
| 01:52.48 | unduality | Yes! |
| 01:52.57 | Thanatermesis | ok, 1 sec |
| 01:58.00 | Thanatermesis | unduality |
| 01:58.30 | egrub | apt, vocopy |
| 01:58.38 | Thanatermesis | you have it on .xchat2/downloads |
| 01:58.42 | Thanatermesis | just "dpkg -i file.deb" with root |
| 01:58.56 | Thanatermesis | and after a reboot, i think to you don't have more this problem |
| 02:01.01 | unduality | Thanx alot, i will try that out right on! |
| 02:01.37 | egrub | apt, vobcopy |
| 02:01.39 | apt | i guess vobcopy is the repository of elive: deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive |
| 02:03.20 | unduality | Thanatermesis, Some dependancy trouble here: root@ocean[/home/unduality]# dpkg -i ivman* |
| 02:03.20 | unduality | tar: ./control: time stamp 2006-05-13 03:56:46 is 78724 s in the future |
| 02:03.20 | unduality | tar: ./md5sums: time stamp 2006-05-13 03:56:46 is 78724 s in the future |
| 02:03.20 | unduality | tar: ./postinst: time stamp 2006-05-13 03:56:43 is 78721 s in the future |
| 02:03.20 | unduality | tar: .: time stamp 2006-05-13 03:56:46 is 78724 s in the future |
| 02:03.20 | unduality | (Reading database ... 79014 files and directories currently installed.) |
| 02:03.22 | unduality | Preparing to replace ivman 0.6.3-4elive1 (using ivman_0.6.10-1elive2_i386.deb) ... |
| 02:03.24 | unduality | Unpacking replacement ivman ... |
| 02:03.26 | unduality | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ivman: |
| 02:03.30 | unduality | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.32 | unduality | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.34 | unduality | dpkg: error processing ivman (--install): |
| 02:03.36 | unduality | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.38 | unduality | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 02:03.40 | unduality | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.42 | unduality | root@ocean[/home/unduality]# |
| 02:03.58 | Thanatermesis | apt-get update ; apt-get -f install |
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| 02:08.21 | unduality | Tnx! Time to reboot. |
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| 02:22.20 | unduality | Thanatermesis, Sorry but it didnt solve the problem. I launched a episode of babylon 5 (xvid) from a DVD, and after some skipping between different scenes in the episode. Mplayer hangs, i xkill it and the cdrom is not accesible anymore. |
| 02:23.15 | Thanatermesis | hangs ? is your CD damaged ? |
| 02:28.03 | unduality | No, it is OK, but now the only way to acces cdrom/dvd is reboot. Or maybe if i found out which process to kill i would get it back again? |
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| 02:28.23 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es hang |
| 02:28.35 | Thanatermesis | how is posible to mplayer hang then ? |
| 02:30.51 | unduality | Thanatermesis, It is strange, but i always get this problem when reading directly from dvd in mplayer. Maybe i should run mplayer in a terminal and see what it is that makes it break down. |
| 02:31.04 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 02:31.35 | dats | sorry :S |
| 02:31.41 | GPLGeek | This is what my mom just told me "**** windows Put linux on it" =) |
| 02:31.54 | dats | i don't may be in the rigth way .... |
| 02:31.58 | dats | it's possible |
| 02:31.59 | revdjenk | LOL |
| 02:31.59 | GPLGeek | reguarding a computer |
| 02:32.12 | GPLGeek | It was cool |
| 02:32.19 | dats | which one of them ? :P |
| 02:32.39 | GPLGeek | They were suposed to have windows for the CAD programs and stuff... They will use wine or open source programs. |
| 02:33.32 | dats | Bonly one of them ? |
| 02:37.21 | revdjenk | GPLGeek, if there was a Linux tax package, I would do away with windows all together! |
| 02:37.22 | LinuxNIT | x="hello world" |
| 02:37.28 | LinuxNIT | print x |
| 02:37.32 | LinuxNIT | hello world |
| 02:37.35 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 02:37.38 | revdjenk | :) |
| 02:37.47 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 02:37.48 | revdjenk | g'evning LinuxNIT |
| 02:37.58 | LinuxNIT | g'evenign revdjenk |
| 02:38.21 | revdjenk | what's new in OK? |
| 02:38.40 | LinuxNIT | FREEEEDOOOOM |
| 02:38.48 | LinuxNIT | finals are over |
| 02:38.49 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 02:39.05 | revdjenk | why what did I miss...? OH yayaah |
| 02:39.20 | revdjenk | this your last year? |
| 02:39.27 | LinuxNIT | sadly no |
| 02:39.32 | LinuxNIT | i wish it was |
| 02:39.42 | revdjenk | well, one more behind you |
| 02:39.54 | revdjenk | my 5 yr old granddtr says the same thing!!! |
| 02:39.59 | LinuxNIT | lmao |
| 02:40.07 | LinuxNIT | she has no idea |
| 02:40.12 | revdjenk | pappaw school is booooring |
| 02:40.22 | revdjenk | and this is pre-school |
| 02:40.23 | Mutacion | lol xD |
| 02:40.34 | LinuxNIT | well it very well could be |
| 02:40.34 | Mutacion | jojojo |
| 02:40.43 | revdjenk | hey Mutacion ! |
| 02:40.54 | Mutacion | qiubole revdjenk |
| 02:41.25 | revdjenk | mucho gusto! |
| 02:41.36 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, some children get bored in school merely since their intelligence should place them higher up. the work is so easy they get bored |
| 02:41.56 | revdjenk | that is obviously your problem! |
| 02:42.02 | LinuxNIT | just my 2 cents worth |
| 02:42.09 | LinuxNIT | nah i hate being cooped up |
| 02:42.10 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 02:44.11 | revdjenk | anyone using .5 for their 'real' work...and is there any problem? |
| 02:45.00 | revdjenk | I keep switching back and forth between .5 and .4.2 with no problems... .5 is faster of course |
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| 04:03.02 | wasynyt | good morning everyone |
| 04:07.59 | metatux | wasynyt morning? |
| 04:12.54 | wasynyt | well its 07.08 here |
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| 04:16.40 | metatux | where? |
| 04:16.47 | wasynyt | finland |
| 04:16.49 | metatux | oh Finland |
| 04:16.55 | wasynyt | :D |
| 04:17.11 | metatux | ok here it is 23:17 12.05.2006 |
| 04:17.42 | metatux | Lima Perú |
| 04:19.31 | wasynyt | :D |
| 04:20.10 | Mutacion | arriesgate...y vuelve a nacer...cambia esta forma de pensar...y de actuar.. |
| 04:20.24 | metatux | Mutacion mamon |
| 04:20.28 | metatux | :D |
| 04:20.42 | metatux | lol |
| 04:20.53 | metatux | no sigo con elive por ahora |
| 04:21.18 | metatux | actualmente me va mejor con zenwalk |
| 04:21.20 | Mutacion | ...ocultos en la carne se qedaron mis recuerdos... |
| 04:21.21 | metatux | :S |
| 04:21.35 | metatux | si por tatuaje :D:D |
| 04:21.36 | Mutacion | ..en una galaxia esta tu sonrisa... se qedaron lejos en una esfera bajo la tierra.. |
| 04:22.06 | Mutacion | los demonios siguen correteando a los ancianos..el campo sigue minado y nadie dice nada por salvar a los ciegos..una mujer llorando se descubre sus secretos.. |
| 04:22.28 | Mutacion | dime jaguar..como llegar hasta el final.. dime jaguar..como mirar en la oscuridad.. |
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| 04:42.53 | innovati | salut! |
| 04:43.16 | innovati | roxville: hey |
| 04:48.34 | innovati | is anybody not idling here? |
| 04:48.44 | Mutacion | maybe |
| 04:48.49 | Mutacion | xD |
| 04:48.50 | innovati | oh, okay |
| 04:48.57 | innovati | I guess I won't either then |
| 04:49.17 | innovati | I feel like I'm cheating you all - I'm talking from Mandriva..... |
| 04:49.40 | Mutacion | mmm.. mandriva = linux ^^ |
| 04:49.56 | innovati | but do I care? not right now |
| 04:50.13 | innovati | Linux is good, I die every time I have to use windows at school or work |
| 04:50.20 | innovati | it's so old and counter-intuitive |
| 04:50.33 | Mutacion | haha :) ur rigth |
| 04:50.42 | innovati | I'm such a jerk I know, but I log off using ctrl-alt-bksp |
| 04:50.53 | innovati | doens't do much on windows |
| 04:51.04 | innovati | have to hit win-up-up-enter-enter |
| 04:52.22 | innovati | I like hacking - I dunno if I'd like a mac unless I used the command-line a lot |
| 04:52.45 | innovati | Mutacion: where are you? US? |
| 04:53.25 | innovati | espana? |
| 04:53.55 | innovati | I was going to guess mexicococo next to be funny |
| 04:54.14 | Mutacion | mexicococo? why..whats that? |
| 04:54.26 | innovati | yo no recuerdo mucho de mi clase de espanol |
| 04:54.36 | innovati | it sounds funny |
| 04:54.55 | Mutacion | mexico + coconut = mexicococo xD lol |
| 04:55.06 | Mutacion | from where are u? canada? |
| 04:55.20 | innovati | si, soy canadiense |
| 04:55.27 | Mutacion | :o i see :) |
| 04:55.30 | innovati | hablo ingles y frances |
| 04:55.34 | innovati | :D |
| 04:55.50 | innovati | that's not bad is it |
| 04:55.55 | Mutacion | et qui tu fait on cette chat? |
| 04:56.41 | innovati | je voulait seulment parler avec les autres utilisateurs de linux, et peut etre Roxville si j'etais chanceux... |
| 04:57.12 | Mutacion | rox is already sleeping :P |
| 04:57.37 | roxville | no he's not... he just came home from his gig |
| 04:57.50 | Mutacion | je compri bien le francais.. mais je parle et je ecrit peu |
| 04:58.04 | Mutacion | lol che rox.. llegas cuando hablamos de ti siempre jojo |
| 04:58.04 | innovati | yo queiro solamente hablar con los otros utilisadors de linux y roxville si tengo 'something-I-always-get-mixed-up-with-sueno' (lucky) |
| 04:58.17 | wasynyt | good morning roxville |
| 04:58.27 | innovati | roxville: hey there little buddy |
| 04:58.38 | Mutacion | little bunny :P |
| 04:58.49 | wasynyt | :D |
| 04:58.51 | roxville | good morning wasynyt ... up early for a saturday morning... you gotta work today? |
| 04:58.58 | wasynyt | nope |
| 05:00.08 | innovati | roxville: ?? hello? |
| 05:00.20 | innovati | what is lucky in spanish again? |
| 05:00.30 | innovati | s....... |
| 05:00.42 | wasynyt | apt x en es lucky |
| 05:01.06 | innovati | well, that would be fortunate, but there's another word I'm looking for |
| 05:01.14 | wasynyt | hmm :/ |
| 05:01.31 | roxville | another word for me? |
| 05:01.31 | innovati | yo he afortunado hoy just doesn't have that same ring to it |
| 05:01.37 | innovati | another word for lucky |
| 05:01.41 | roxville | how about... fantastic...? |
| 05:01.48 | innovati | in spanish, the word for lucky |
| 05:01.48 | roxville | fortunate |
| 05:01.52 | innovati | starts with s |
| 05:01.59 | innovati | confused easily with sueno |
| 05:02.06 | innovati | isn't sueno sleepy? |
| 05:02.34 | innovati | is it? |
| 05:02.34 | wasynyt | apt x es en sueno |
| 05:02.45 | wasynyt | :S |
| 05:03.10 | innovati | dunno |
| 05:03.19 | innovati | suen~o |
| 05:03.26 | wasynyt | apt x es en suen |
| 05:04.01 | innovati | apt x es en sueño |
| 05:04.07 | innovati | there! |
| 05:04.37 | wasynyt | :D |
| 05:08.16 | roxville | apt, X es en mierda |
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| 05:08.26 | innovati | mm yummy |
| 05:08.28 | roxville | :) |
| 05:08.33 | innovati | apt x es en puta |
| 05:08.35 | innovati | hehe |
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| 05:11.08 | innovati | I made you all something |
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| 05:13.39 | wasynyt | what is it ? |
| 05:13.47 | roxville | hello Elive_user58 |
| 05:13.53 | roxville | welcome to #elive |
| 05:14.24 | Mutacion | bye ppl |
| 05:14.29 | Mutacion | apt bye |
| 05:14.31 | apt | cya |
| 05:14.31 | wasynyt | see you later |
| 05:14.59 | innovati | here |
| 05:15.01 | innovati | I got it coming |
| 05:15.49 | innovati | mexican couldn't stay and now I'm sad |
| 05:16.04 | innovati | no more elive buddy for me |
| 05:16.20 | LinuxNIT | howdy partners |
| 05:16.36 | innovati | http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7480/venn21hy.png |
| 05:16.38 | innovati | there you all go |
| 05:16.47 | innovati | fresh from inkscape |
| 05:17.04 | LinuxNIT | interesting |
| 05:17.09 | roxville | LOL |
| 05:17.17 | LinuxNIT | i see they never mesh |
| 05:17.28 | innovati | bingo! we have a winner |
| 05:17.41 | innovati | roxville: tanner showed me that today on a piece of paper |
| 05:17.50 | innovati | I took the time to do it justice |
| 05:18.00 | roxville | cool! |
| 05:18.03 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:18.34 | innovati | Tanner is alive and well, and I have the FUNNIEST story for hacing for you if you want to hear it, but it's kind of unrelated to linux.....it has firefox in it though... |
| 05:18.50 | wasynyt | tell it.. there i snothing happening here |
| 05:19.00 | innovati | okie dokie |
| 05:19.15 | innovati | last summer I went on this summer work exchange to Quebec, the french province here in Canada |
| 05:20.01 | innovati | 5 other people went with me from my town, one of which is the GF I watched the extended Return of the King with tonight, one of the others is that one girl you *never* hope to be caught dead with: Colleen |
| 05:20.45 | innovati | so, Colleen is into the whole lesbian Sue Thomas FBI fancfictions, and Star wars RPG forums and such |
| 05:20.57 | wasynyt | ! |
| 05:21.12 | innovati | you can guess which one's my GF and which on'es Collen I'm pretty sure: http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6371/quebec0713gp.jpg |
| 05:21.24 | innovati | so anyway |
| 05:22.19 | innovati | for kicks, I tell Tanner this week: lets make a spoof character for her RPG forums, and between us and Aaron, we have enough star wars knowledge and creative writing skills to outwit her |
| 05:22.35 | egrub | Que linda chica este!! |
| 05:22.40 | wasynyt | :D |
| 05:23.16 | innovati | but it gets better: when we go to create a new user, we notice that cookies saved Colleen's password, and she happens to be a super-moderator on the forum (invisionboard software) |
| 05:24.00 | innovati | using my logical thinking, we locate and copy the contents of the MD5 hash from the password cookie, knowing it's a 6 character password, and Tanner writes a de-hash program in java to crack it |
| 05:24.25 | innovati | the next day, after discovering that what it is, while showing me the program he used to crack her password, she walks in the room |
| 05:24.42 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 05:24.50 | innovati | now, every week we're going to start chainging things around the forums. We started by making a typo in her signature |
| 05:24.52 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.05 | wasynyt | good morning LinuxNIT |
| 05:25.12 | innovati | but we could make stickies in all forums or whatever now - we're all o=powerful |
| 05:25.16 | LinuxNIT | good morning/night |
| 05:25.22 | innovati | good day |
| 05:26.17 | innovati | egrub: which one? |
| 05:26.30 | egrub | apt x en es which one? |
| 05:26.43 | egrub | innovati, las dos!! xD |
| 05:26.47 | egrub | two |
| 05:27.30 | innovati | yo no pienso que Colleen es muy linda, pero, Amanda si! :D |
| 05:27.39 | egrub | Jeje |
| 05:27.50 | egrub | Amanda es la rubia? |
| 05:27.52 | innovati | Amanda juge Unreal Tournament! |
| 05:28.42 | innovati | apt x en es the one on the left |
| 05:29.16 | egrub | apt x es en me gusta la morena |
| 05:29.23 | egrub | :D |
| 05:29.29 | innovati | ? |
| 05:29.38 | egrub | apt x es en me gusta el pelo negro |
| 05:29.55 | innovati | apt z en es with sunglasses? |
| 05:30.10 | innovati | apt z en es with sunglasses |
| 05:30.17 | egrub | apt x en es with sunglasses? |
| 05:30.28 | egrub | Not |
| 05:30.42 | innovati | apt x en es she is all yours |
| 05:30.51 | egrub | Jeje |
| 05:31.18 | innovati | apt x en es especially if you like star wars fan fiction RPG and church |
| 05:31.42 | egrub | apt x es en no me gusta mucho los juegos |
| 05:32.14 | innovati | egrub comprendes frances? |
| 05:32.22 | egrub | Flojo |
| 05:32.34 | egrub | Un poco |
| 05:33.20 | egrub | apt x es en los sordos le cuesta aprender varios idiomas |
| 05:33.38 | innovati | eres sordo? |
| 05:33.44 | egrub | Yes |
| 05:33.49 | innovati | ah! |
| 05:34.03 | innovati | apt x en es can you lip-read? |
| 05:34.14 | innovati | apt x en es lip read |
| 05:34.15 | roxville | lol |
| 05:34.21 | egrub | Yes |
| 05:34.25 | roxville | it's hard to do while chatting |
| 05:34.27 | innovati | yo no puedo |
| 05:34.32 | egrub | Jeje |
| 05:34.43 | egrub | x es en it's hard to do while chatting |
| 05:34.53 | innovati | it's way to hard for me and sometimes if there's other noise I get distracted from hearing people - I only hear one thing at a time and it's whatever's most urgent |
| 05:35.01 | egrub | x en es it's hard to do while chatting |
| 05:35.19 | roxville | apt, x en es it's hard to do while chatting |
| 05:35.33 | roxville | egrub, de nada :) |
| 05:35.45 | innovati | apt en de bread |
| 05:35.50 | egrub | Jeje |
| 05:36.04 | roxville | innovati, it's brot |
| 05:36.08 | innovati | apt x en de bread |
| 05:36.18 | innovati | what languages does he know |
| 05:36.27 | roxville | ok... don't believe me... |
| 05:36.42 | innovati | roxville: I know, that's why I chose bread to test it |
| 05:37.00 | innovati | and I know |
| 05:37.08 | egrub | single I can speak with people but the language costs to me more |
| 05:37.09 | innovati | apt x de en teig |
| 05:37.15 | innovati | dough |
| 05:38.19 | innovati | I just had such a 'good night' to care at this point, it's late and I'm still doing well here like 3 hours later |
| 05:38.38 | egrub | aquÃa most of the deaf people does not learn much written language |
| 05:39.55 | innovati | apt x en es here in Canada we teach deaf people how to lipread and ASL and they can talk like hearing people can. Sometimes, you don't really know they are deaf until after a few sentences. |
| 05:40.16 | egrub | Yes |
| 05:40.40 | innovati | apt x en es it's very good, I am glad we have such a good education for them |
| 05:41.00 | egrub | apt x es en si eso es muy importante. :) |
| 05:41.28 | egrub | apt x es en la educación no puede mezclarse con la piraterÃa windows. |
| 05:41.30 | egrub | xDDDD |
| 05:41.44 | innovati | ?? |
| 05:41.59 | egrub | apt x es en es un chiste medio aburrido. |
| 05:42.05 | egrub | Jeje |
| 05:42.22 | innovati | oh |
| 05:42.35 | innovati | mexico? |
| 05:42.39 | egrub | Argentina |
| 05:42.43 | innovati | :D |
| 05:42.48 | egrub | :) |
| 05:42.59 | innovati | apt x en es even better, that's closer to brazil! |
| 05:43.10 | egrub | Yes |
| 05:43.24 | egrub | apt x es en Brasil es un paraÃso de los hackers. |
| 05:43.25 | egrub | :D |
| 05:44.05 | innovati | apt x en es and men |
| 05:44.08 | roxville | i fell in love with a deaf girl once... at a bar where i played music... she and some friends used to come there |
| 05:44.23 | innovati | what kind of music do you play? |
| 05:44.28 | roxville | but i didn't know how to say "i love you" in sign language |
| 05:44.32 | innovati | awww |
| 05:44.35 | egrub | apt x es en hay mujeres muy guapa en Brasil |
| 05:44.36 | roxville | so i just grabbed her tits |
| 05:44.41 | innovati | you could have shown her in more practical ways |
| 05:44.48 | innovati | yeah |
| 05:45.07 | roxville | and she let me know it was not mutual |
| 05:45.17 | innovati | ouch |
| 05:45.20 | roxville | my cheek was red for weeks |
| 05:45.24 | innovati | oooo |
| 05:45.25 | roxville | :) |
| 05:45.27 | innovati | not so good |
| 05:45.38 | egrub | roxville, love you? |
| 05:45.48 | egrub | roxville, se dice "Te amo" |
| 05:45.49 | egrub | xD |
| 05:45.50 | innovati | but you found one that did didn't you |
| 05:45.51 | roxville | just kidding... i never tried to talk to her... but man, she was so pretty |
| 05:46.11 | roxville | egrub, in sign language |
| 05:46.12 | egrub | <roxville> but i didn't know how to say "i love you" in sign language <--- Se dice "Te amo" |
| 05:46.44 | roxville | apt x en es so i just grabbed her tits |
| 05:46.57 | innovati | seins |
| 05:47.03 | innovati | apt x en es breasts |
| 05:47.08 | roxville | tetas |
| 05:47.11 | egrub | Yes |
| 05:47.13 | innovati | close enough |
| 05:47.19 | egrub | roxville, +10 |
| 05:47.20 | egrub | xD |
| 05:47.24 | innovati | apt x en es teets |
| 05:47.26 | roxville | :D |
| 05:47.37 | innovati | apt x en es teats |
| 05:47.43 | innovati | heheheh |
| 05:48.33 | egrub | apt x es en en Canada sigue descubriendo el software libre? |
| 05:48.47 | innovati | como? |
| 05:49.07 | egrub | apt x es en en Canada está interesando el software libre? |
| 05:49.32 | innovati | apt x en es it's the same as the us |
| 05:49.41 | egrub | Ah Que cool |
| 05:49.44 | innovati | es igual con EU |
| 05:49.49 | egrub | Yes |
| 05:50.05 | egrub | apt x es en Bill está triste y se suicida. |
| 05:50.06 | egrub | xD |
| 05:50.24 | roxville | innovati, did you know that brazil imports hardly any oil at all? |
| 05:50.29 | innovati | nope |
| 05:50.38 | innovati | but I know they keep lots oof nice women down there |
| 05:50.48 | innovati | if I wasn't so damn happy here I'd migrate there |
| 05:50.51 | roxville | they have converted almost everything to run on ethanol |
| 05:51.44 | roxville | they started almost 30 years ago |
| 05:51.48 | innovati | crazy |
| 05:51.50 | wasynyt | really ? |
| 05:51.50 | roxville | pretty cool |
| 05:52.00 | roxville | it's true |
| 05:52.02 | egrub | apt x es en Brasil siempre va primero desarrollan en GNU/Linux |
| 05:52.11 | wasynyt | finns are conservative idiots in these things :S |
| 05:52.21 | roxville | lol |
| 05:52.31 | roxville | not to mention the americanos |
| 05:52.36 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 05:52.55 | innovati | wasynyt you finnish? |
| 05:53.01 | wasynyt | we still drive with those -90 toyotas |
| 05:53.06 | wasynyt | curses |
| 05:53.11 | roxville | lol |
| 05:53.28 | wasynyt | cars are so expensive here |
| 05:53.37 | innovati | you in finland? |
| 05:53.42 | wasynyt | yes |
| 05:53.53 | innovati | thank you for IRC and Linux and and and..... |
| 05:54.06 | roxville | :) |
| 05:54.14 | wasynyt | if you import a car to finland you may have to pay about 100% taxes for it |
| 05:54.48 | roxville | innovati, are citroen still sold in canada? |
| 05:55.00 | wasynyt | plus you have to pay taxes for those taxes.. :/ |
| 05:55.00 | innovati | ? |
| 05:55.07 | wasynyt | innovati, thanks |
| 05:55.17 | roxville | oh... it's a french car brand |
| 05:55.36 | innovati | i don't think so |
| 05:56.44 | roxville | like this... this IMO the most beautiful car ever made on an assembly line |
| 05:56.48 | roxville | http://www.jaycronen.com/vehicles/images/jpg/citroen-full.jpg |
| 05:57.03 | innovati | NO |
| 05:57.30 | roxville | http://www.lucky.se/Citroen-2CV--90.jpg |
| 05:57.35 | roxville | they also made that one |
| 05:57.41 | innovati | you're crazy |
| 05:58.16 | innovati | http://www.matadorcoupe.com/AMC/AMX3-6.jpg |
| 05:58.19 | innovati | much better |
| 05:59.34 | roxville | yep, you can still buy them in canada |
| 05:59.40 | innovati | where |
| 05:59.43 | wasynyt | http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=car&id=3151&p=2005_maybach_exelero-2.jpg&y=2005&m=Maybach&o=Exelero%20Concept |
| 05:59.54 | wasynyt | you cant buy this one but is damn pretty |
| 06:00.02 | roxville | http://citroen.globalcar.com/searchcar/Canada/Citroen/1.htm |
| 06:00.46 | roxville | wasynyt, wow, nice |
| 06:00.51 | wasynyt | :D |
| 06:01.05 | roxville | that would be something to glide through mikkeli in... |
| 06:01.09 | wasynyt | :S |
| 06:01.20 | innovati | i dunno |
| 06:01.23 | egrub | apt x es en porque te gustan los autos viejos? |
| 06:01.24 | innovati | i haven' heard of them |
| 06:01.28 | innovati | but Im not a car person |
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| 06:01.48 | wasynyt | innovati, that aint production car.. there is only one |
| 06:02.21 | wasynyt | that 2-ton monster coupe is as good as porsche carrera in straigh line :D |
| 06:02.54 | LinuxNIT | the ford lincoln |
| 06:03.30 | LinuxNIT | jk |
| 06:04.05 | wasynyt | http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=car&id=3111&p=2005_pagani_zonda_f-2.jpg&y=2005&m=Pagani&o=Zonda%20C12%20F |
| 06:04.25 | wasynyt | one among nicest cars around... nad one of the most expensive |
| 06:04.28 | wasynyt | *and |
| 06:05.03 | egrub | El auto que tengo, http://www.caradisiac.com/media/images/le_mag/mag250/renault-megane-3-2big.jpg |
| 06:05.39 | wasynyt | hmm thats a basic car |
| 06:05.49 | wasynyt | i cant afford even that :( |
| 06:05.52 | egrub | :) |
| 06:07.04 | roxville | guys, have a good night... i gotta get some sleep |
| 06:07.17 | roxville | egrub, buenas noches amigo :) |
| 06:07.48 | wasynyt | good night roxville |
| 06:07.50 | roxville | hasta banana :D |
| 06:07.51 | innovati | buhbye |
| 06:07.58 | innovati | nightynight |
| 06:08.03 | innovati | I think I'm going to |
| 06:08.09 | innovati | apt x en es I think I will go to |
| 06:08.28 | egrub | roxville, buenas noches! |
| 06:08.44 | egrub | innovati, gusto de hablar. Suerte! :) |
| 06:09.19 | innovati | good luck to you too little buddy |
| 06:09.33 | innovati | that was the word I was looking for eh? suerte: lucky |
| 06:10.13 | egrub | Yes |
| 06:10.23 | innovati | you knew it the whole time didn't you |
| 06:11.10 | egrub | :) |
| 06:11.15 | innovati | :P |
| 06:19.42 | wasynyt_away | i have to go now.. see you later |
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| 12:33.30 | wasynyt | :D |
| 12:33.32 | wasynyt | thank you |
| 12:34.00 | saad3000 | ur welcome. |
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| 14:24.26 | Skovanden | evening |
| 14:24.35 | wasynyt_away | good afternoon |
| 14:25.13 | felix | good :) |
| 14:25.22 | Skovanden | How are we doing ? |
| 14:25.37 | wasynyt | hmm fine |
| 14:25.40 | felix | I'm doing great... running debian, but great :) |
| 14:26.08 | wasynyt | just finished installing suse 10.1 and been configuring it this day |
| 14:26.11 | Skovanden | running macos and windows 2003 ;) |
| 14:26.14 | felix | Is a shame, but i can't use eth0 with elive :( |
| 14:26.30 | Skovanden | what kinda nic is it felix ? |
| 14:26.57 | felix | Skovanden: nic == ethernet? |
| 14:27.01 | felix | Skovanden: or nic == nick? |
| 14:27.18 | Skovanden | nic = network interface |
| 14:27.18 | felix | ohhh |
| 14:27.22 | Skovanden | = netcard |
| 14:27.30 | felix | ok |
| 14:27.34 | felix | realtek 8139 |
| 14:27.42 | felix | i used modprobe 8139too |
| 14:27.52 | felix | and then dhclient but it is not working at all. |
| 14:27.56 | Skovanden | 1 gbps nic ? |
| 14:28.05 | felix | hahhaa.... no :) |
| 14:28.11 | felix | just a 10/100 mbps |
| 14:28.11 | Skovanden | ah ok |
| 14:28.25 | Skovanden | well i know some 1gbps nic's got probs with elive |
| 14:28.28 | Skovanden | such as netgear |
| 14:28.45 | felix | Skovanden: is it possible to boot using a new kernel with elive 0.4.2? |
| 14:29.05 | Skovanden | now thats a good question ;) |
| 14:29.34 | Skovanden | Of course if you have made a hdd install and compiled a new kernel version |
| 14:29.38 | Skovanden | but as livecd: no |
| 14:29.51 | felix | hehehe, then "no" |
| 14:29.58 | Skovanden | Thanatermesis: check out felix's question |
| 14:30.04 | Skovanden | oh its running as live cd |
| 14:30.24 | felix | Skovanden: i asked Thanatermesis yesterday but he confess that his nic doesn't work either. |
| 14:30.31 | felix | (of course using elive :-P) |
| 14:30.55 | Skovanden | Well it cant find your nic at all ? |
| 14:31.34 | felix | Skovanden: hurm... let me check. I try to make it works. |
| 14:31.55 | wasynyt | whats with you dererk |
| 14:32.00 | felix | Skovanden: but i have to reboot and check without being on the irc for a while... i'll try and then I'll tell you. |
| 14:32.02 | wasynyt | good afternoon dererk |
| 14:32.35 | Skovanden | felix sure think :) |
| 14:33.08 | Skovanden | thing* |
| 14:33.41 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:34.00 | Skovanden | i know there is a command in linux that can check what pci devices that is plugged in |
| 14:34.05 | Skovanden | but cant remember it |
| 14:34.09 | Skovanden | you know it wasynyt ? |
| 14:34.33 | wasynyt | dmesg |
| 14:34.35 | wasynyt | ? |
| 14:34.46 | Skovanden | no something with "pci" |
| 14:34.51 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 14:35.09 | wasynyt | i allways use dmesg |
| 14:35.29 | wasynyt | or dmesg | less |
| 14:35.44 | Skovanden | cant remember it |
| 14:36.54 | Skovanden | any of you seen gwildor ? |
| 14:37.00 | Skovanden | apt seen gwildor |
| 14:37.09 | apt | gwildor <n=Admin@h-66-134-148-176.sfldmidn.covad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 7d 17h 7m 14s ago, saying: 'mp4 or m4a?'. |
| 14:37.10 | Skovanden | apt seen Gwildor |
| 14:37.11 | apt | gwildor <n=Admin@h-66-134-148-176.sfldmidn.covad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 7d 17h 7m 16s ago, saying: 'mp4 or m4a?'. |
| 14:37.48 | dererkTOOangry | wasynyt, just for you |
| 14:38.02 | wasynyt | :S |
| 14:38.05 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:38.16 | dererkTOOangry | I'm experimenting a non-breakfast-and-serious-headache day |
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| 14:38.55 | Skovanden | dererkTOOangry go and get some sleep |
| 14:39.21 | dererkTOOangry | If I had the chance to reach a bed, I would do that |
| 14:39.28 | dererkTOOangry | but I don't |
| 14:40.02 | wasynyt | where are you then |
| 14:40.57 | dererkTOOangry | at the univ |
| 14:41.07 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 14:42.10 | felix | re |
| 14:42.21 | felix | Skovanden: the nic doesn't work. |
| 14:43.04 | Skovanden | ok |
| 14:43.06 | Skovanden | Hmm.. |
| 14:43.24 | Skovanden | try typing the command wasynyt wrote |
| 14:44.50 | felix | Skovanden: the weird thing is that the ethernet is working, but dhclient doesn't. |
| 14:45.21 | felix | Skovanden: I mean. I did ifconfig eth0 and i can see the ethernet card, mac address, and ifconfig output. |
| 14:45.21 | Skovanden | ok then the nic is working and discovered but some features is not working |
| 14:45.24 | Skovanden | hmm.. |
| 14:45.37 | Skovanden | ok you get an ip fron dhcp ? |
| 14:46.42 | felix | Skovanden: yes |
| 14:47.09 | felix | Skovanden: i had the same problem before using 8139too as a module (using another notebook but with a pcmcia card) |
| 14:47.23 | felix | (of course another kernel) |
| 14:48.16 | felix | all of these problems are avoided using a 8139 driver compiled into the kernel. |
| 14:48.24 | Skovanden | then i dont see what the problem is, your system can see the nic and it recives information from dhcp server.. |
| 14:48.59 | felix | Skovanden: yes :) (I don't explain my problem in a straight way... but is my fault, sorry) |
| 14:49.39 | Skovanden | No problem ;) |
| 14:49.40 | felix | well... whatever i copied all enlightenment configuration from elive disk :) (then i'll try to install e16 or e17 in a minutes) |
| 14:50.00 | Skovanden | right'o :) |
| 14:50.32 | Skovanden | So where are you guys from ? |
| 14:50.43 | felix | Skovanden: I'm from Argentina. |
| 14:50.57 | Skovanden | Oh far away from everything ;) |
| 14:51.42 | wasynyt | finland |
| 14:52.03 | Skovanden | Moi wasynyt :) |
| 14:52.13 | wasynyt | hyvaa iltaa |
| 14:52.20 | wasynyt | *hyvää iltaa |
| 14:52.21 | felix | hurm |
| 14:52.47 | Skovanden | Danish (but have worked with 3 guys from Helsinki for 1« year) |
| 14:52.55 | Skovanden | <-- worked for HP ;) |
| 14:52.58 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 14:53.13 | wasynyt | what did you do for hp |
| 14:53.27 | Skovanden | i was a tech supporter |
| 14:53.34 | wasynyt | :S |
| 14:53.41 | wasynyt | good salary |
| 14:53.45 | Skovanden | for network units, servers |
| 14:53.50 | Skovanden | Naah it was ok |
| 14:53.50 | felix | hehe |
| 14:53.54 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:54.01 | felix | lucky you guys |
| 14:54.08 | wasynyt | why ? |
| 14:54.11 | felix | I'm living a big, nice, but no so rich country :) |
| 14:54.23 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:54.35 | wasynyt | you have internet connection.. cant be that bad |
| 14:55.07 | Skovanden | but now im a poor student again ;) |
| 14:55.17 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:56.10 | felix | wasynyt: :) but is still poor |
| 14:56.17 | egrub | apt x en es x en es i need a spanish guy to help me |
| 14:56.18 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 14:56.38 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:57.17 | felix | Skovanden: tell me if you come. There is a lot of things to do here... remember that Argentina has 3000kms long |
| 14:57.44 | felix | Skovanden: then... you can find every climate. |
| 14:58.25 | Skovanden | Hehe yeah its a pretty country |
| 14:58.31 | Skovanden | and i would really love to visit it :) |
| 14:59.24 | felix | Skovanden: tell me if you come here. |
| 14:59.35 | Skovanden | hehe will do ;) |
| 14:59.58 | felix | ok:) |
| 15:00.05 | felix | hurm... |
| 15:00.15 | egrub | Skovanden, taken care of with the Argentinean women it will give infarct you |
| 15:00.16 | egrub | xD |
| 15:00.31 | felix | jajajaja |
| 15:00.40 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:00.56 | felix | egrub: that laugh was for your comment. |
| 15:01.12 | Skovanden | voi vittu shoutcast |
| 15:01.19 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:01.19 | felix | of course changing diapers is not a "funny" thing to do |
| 15:01.21 | egrub | :) |
| 15:01.21 | wasynyt | indeed |
| 15:01.31 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:02.02 | wasynyt | adress ? |
| 15:02.07 | Skovanden | felix oh you also got the sweetness called "Kids" |
| 15:02.18 | Skovanden | wasynyt cant tell now, gotta fix it first.. give me 10 mins |
| 15:02.26 | wasynyt | ok |
| 15:02.33 | felix | Skovanden: :-D |
| 15:02.55 | felix | damn... my son is surrounding me with his toys |
| 15:03.15 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:04.31 | felix | here's my son: http://tinyurl.com/fsbr9 |
| 15:04.32 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:06.31 | felix | where are defined aliases in elive? |
| 15:06.46 | felix | i copied all "elive user home directory" and now "su" is aliased as "sudo su" |
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| 15:07.21 | felix | dererkTOOangry: ¿qué te pasa? |
| 15:07.34 | felix | dererkTOOangry: "too angry" ¿a qué se debe? |
| 15:07.37 | dererkTOOangry | demasiados problemas |
| 15:07.42 | dererkTOOangry | hoy no me sale una |
| 15:07.47 | felix | dererkTOOangry: ¿por? |
| 15:07.51 | dererkTOOangry | y encima rompi un pendrive de 1g |
| 15:07.59 | felix | dererkTOOangry: ¿rompiste? |
| 15:08.04 | dererkTOOangry | 170 dolares al tacho |
| 15:08.07 | felix | dererkTOOangry: ¿cómo? |
| 15:08.17 | egrub | 170??? |
| 15:08.27 | egrub | dererkTOOangry, debiste cuidar mucho!! |
| 15:08.33 | felix | dererkTOOangry: (si te hace sentir mejor, me bajaron 700 pesos al sueldo, me aumentaron el alquiler, y me quedé sin niñera. Todo en 2 semanas) |
| 15:08.57 | dererkTOOangry | tire para atras la silla, se me cayo y lo piso la rueda de la silla |
| 15:09.39 | egrub | Que boludo... |
| 15:09.45 | dererkTOOangry | lo mio todo en 3 segundos |
| 15:09.56 | dererkTOOangry | y no, no me hace sentir mejor |
| 15:10.07 | dererkTOOangry | ademas enganche la zapatilla con un clavo |
| 15:10.14 | felix | 700 pesos menos :( (no te das una idea cómo quedó mi economía) |
| 15:10.18 | dererkTOOangry | y se hizo un corte de costado |
| 15:12.45 | Skovanden | what media players do you guys use ? |
| 15:13.12 | dererkTOOangry | cplay, Skovanden |
| 15:13.28 | Skovanden | open this stream url: netx.se port 8000 |
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| 15:16.36 | dererkTOOangry | i can't here, but thanks |
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| 15:17.34 | Siulfur | =) |
| 15:17.41 | dererkTOOangry | egrub, no es "boludo" o "no boludo" |
| 15:17.44 | dererkTOOangry | fue un descuido |
| 15:17.51 | Skovanden | http://netx.se/thomas/listen.pls |
| 15:18.02 | dererkTOOangry | lo tenia apoyado en la pierna, y cuando me tire para atras se cayo y lo agarro la rueda |
| 15:18.43 | Siulfur | Doh! |
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| 16:47.45 | Elive_user | has my spaceship landed? |
| 16:48.41 | psynex | new name |
| 16:48.49 | psynex | sweet! |
| 16:49.03 | psynex | Hello all. I'm new to elive and linux in general |
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| 17:01.52 | bi_fi | ah tombo |
| 17:01.55 | bi_fi | io |
| 17:01.59 | tombo | joe |
| 17:04.01 | bi_fi | apt, elpanel |
| 17:04.02 | apt | elpanel is, like, the powered center of control of Elive, where all the answers of your questions are, your heart is prepaired for discover all features ? ;) |
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| 17:06.23 | psynex | rather quiet in here. anyone around that can lend some expertise? |
| 17:06.36 | bi_fi | I'm afraid I'm still a noob myself :) |
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| 17:07.17 | psynex | I've been able to poke my way through a lot. I want to get my vid card drivers installed and it's daunting |
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| 17:09.59 | bi_fi | you have an ati? |
| 17:10.23 | psynex | nvidia |
| 17:11.02 | psynex | the Wiki says I need to add the tests branch, but the example is hard to follow |
| 17:11.10 | psynex | I think something was lost in translation |
| 17:11.43 | bi_fi | I think he normally asks at startup to use old or new nvidia drivers |
| 17:11.48 | bi_fi | choose nex |
| 17:11.49 | bi_fi | *new |
| 17:12.55 | psynex | I think I tried that from the live menu and it just gave me a corrupt display. |
| 17:13.10 | bi_fi | hmm sorry but I have an ati |
| 17:13.19 | bi_fi | can't really help you alot |
| 17:13.43 | psynex | I'm going to fire up another virtual pc and poke around |
| 17:14.19 | bi_fi | :) |
| 17:16.57 | psynex | hehehe. nothing like being able to run 3 OS's at once from the same chair. :) |
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| 17:20.30 | psynex | another thing that has me bugged is when I installed elive to hard disk, the E17 theme was COMPLETELY different then the live cd |
| 17:21.08 | Thanatermesis__ | apt elive-faq |
| 17:21.10 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, elive-faq is http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/FAQ |
| 17:25.09 | wasnyt_away | good evening everyone |
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| 17:25.47 | psynex | hello wasynyt |
| 17:26.22 | psynex | are you new to this elive business too? |
| 17:26.27 | wasynyt | nope |
| 17:26.43 | wasynyt | hmm what model you nvidia card is |
| 17:26.53 | psynex | 7900 gt |
| 17:26.55 | Thanatermesis | psynex, maybe a little old ;) |
| 17:27.08 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:27.19 | wasynyt | the drivers in elive migh t not support it |
| 17:27.26 | bouba | hi Thanatermesis. i've downloaded the iso again, but i've had the same error during boot |
| 17:28.09 | psynex | they don't. I got a corrupt display. So I figured I'd install elive to a drive and get the Nvidia drivers |
| 17:28.28 | wasynyt | :7 |
| 17:28.30 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 17:29.10 | psynex | however, I can't get the tests branch to work |
| 17:29.19 | Thanatermesis | bouba, what iso and what message ? |
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| 17:29.52 | Thanatermesis | psynex, what is your screen ? |
| 17:29.54 | bouba | http://thanatermesis.org/trac/wiki/DevelReleaseUsers |
| 17:30.24 | psynex | my screen? Do you mean the resolution or the psyical monitor type? |
| 17:32.39 | Mutacion_ | qiubole ppl |
| 17:33.26 | Thanatermesis | psynex, yes... well, is a old monitor ? |
| 17:33.47 | psynex | no. it's pretty new. Dell 19" LCD |
| 17:33.50 | Thanatermesis | ah yes bouba... this messages... is in the liveCD mode, yes ? |
| 17:34.02 | bouba | yes |
| 17:34.09 | Thanatermesis | what you have in /dev/hdc bouba ? the cdrom device ? |
| 17:35.06 | bouba | ummm.... |
| 17:35.11 | Thanatermesis | psynex, maybe the autodetections for the configuration of you screen not is good.. do you have tried diferents options of the boot ? (for example the called "graphical system problems") |
| 17:35.30 | Thanatermesis | how many CDroms you have tried bouba ? only one ? |
| 17:35.59 | bouba | yes.... |
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| 17:37.27 | piper14 | hola a todos. |
| 17:37.54 | wasynyt | good evenign piper14 |
| 17:38.27 | bouba | ok i will try another cd |
| 17:39.20 | Thanatermesis | well bouba... hdc looks normally the CDrom, and in any case, this version of Elive boots the CD, nothing on the hard disk, read "disk problems"... then not is the hard disk but look to are the cdrom device... the hardware ? i don't think... i think to its just the CD, check the MD5 and burn again another CD, with 700 mb, and no use CD-RW |
| 17:39.54 | bouba | ok boss |
| 17:40.00 | wasynyt | an dperhaps 4x speed |
| 17:40.51 | psynex | yes. I can load elive with "depth=16" and "graphical system problems" |
| 17:41.07 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:41.14 | wasynyt | no 3d acceleration |
| 17:41.19 | wasynyt | ? |
| 17:42.10 | psynex | correct. I want to install drivers that allow 3d acceleration |
| 17:42.29 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 17:43.19 | Thanatermesis | psynex, ok then... well, you need to use the "new" or the "old" version of the nvidia driver, you have tried both with this option of boot ? |
| 17:46.12 | psynex | I've tried xmodule=nv and xmodule=nvidia |
| 17:47.21 | Thanatermesis | is the blue menu in the boot who decides the module to use |
| 17:47.37 | psynex | I get a prompt to type vhsync -f |
| 17:50.36 | Thanatermesis | no the menu for select if use nvidia, nv or vesa ? |
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| 18:02.13 | psynex | I ran vhsync -f then typed startx |
| 18:02.38 | psynex | I see an error - Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) |
| 18:02.47 | psynex | no drivers available |
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| 18:21.31 | LinuxNIT | hello elive people |
| 18:25.33 | psynex | hiya LinuxNIT |
| 18:25.49 | LinuxNIT | hiya |
| 18:26.36 | psynex | you a long time elive user? |
| 18:26.52 | wasynyt | LinuxNIT, is offical elive support person |
| 18:27.05 | wasynyt | i will be back soon |
| 18:27.34 | psynex | oh cool. |
| 18:27.38 | LinuxNIT | i started just before 0.4pre caemout |
| 18:27.46 | psynex | I'm a newb and here to learn |
| 18:28.01 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 18:28.28 | LinuxNIT | ill do my best to help ;) |
| 18:28.46 | psynex | the biggest problem I'm having right now is getting my graphics card set up with the right drivers |
| 18:28.55 | LinuxNIT | what card? |
| 18:29.15 | LinuxNIT | ati? |
| 18:29.18 | psynex | nvidia |
| 18:29.23 | psynex | 7900 gt |
| 18:29.27 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 18:30.08 | psynex | the elive wiki says to add the tests branch repository and update my kernel, then install the drivers |
| 18:30.14 | LinuxNIT | what driver is it using right now |
| 18:30.22 | LinuxNIT | did you do that? |
| 18:30.33 | psynex | I can't add the tests branch. :\ |
| 18:30.59 | LinuxNIT | why not? |
| 18:31.31 | psynex | I'm not sure. The instructions aren't clear enough for me? I did the deb, but get an error that deb isn't a command |
| 18:31.47 | LinuxNIT | what did you do? |
| 18:31.51 | LinuxNIT | exaclty |
| 18:32.18 | psynex | opened a terminal and typed "deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive elive main efl elive tests" |
| 18:32.40 | psynex | when that didn't work, I entered root and changed to the root dir and tried it again |
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| 18:33.03 | Siulfur | Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 18:33.04 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 18:33.07 | LinuxNIT | its not a command |
| 18:33.23 | psynex | lol. I told you I was a newb |
| 18:33.28 | Siulfur | [ Can you say me how you install a theme ? ] |
| 18:34.27 | LinuxNIT | they way debian works is it has file (/etc/apt/surces.list). ths is a list of http and ftp sites called repositories or repos. from here you can download and install thousnads of programs and updates using apt-get or synaptic |
| 18:34.48 | LinuxNIT | Siulfur, use synaptic |
| 18:34.59 | LinuxNIT | Siulfur, then use elpanel |
| 18:35.07 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, Thx :) |
| 18:35.36 | LinuxNIT | psynex, that line that you ran as a coommand needs to be added to your /etc/apt/sources.list file to add it as a reop |
| 18:35.39 | LinuxNIT | *repo |
| 18:35.53 | LinuxNIT | Siulfur, your welcome |
| 18:36.10 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, humm where you find Synaptic : / |
| 18:36.18 | LinuxNIT | in elpanel |
| 18:36.22 | LinuxNIT | under admin |
| 18:36.48 | Siulfur | yep |
| 18:36.54 | Siulfur | but i can't install ! |
| 18:36.55 | Siulfur | :( |
| 18:37.08 | LinuxNIT | click refresh |
| 18:37.22 | LinuxNIT | psynex, are you still here? |
| 18:38.14 | psynex | yes. I understand what you are saying. I will give it a try in a little bit. I want to be a part of this themes troubleshooting for the moment |
| 18:38.34 | psynex | I installed some themes, but they aren't available in theme selector |
| 18:39.10 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, it's Entrance Theme : / |
| 18:39.14 | LinuxNIT | ok we will do themes right now then |
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| 18:39.38 | LinuxNIT | Siulfur, you want to install a new theme for entrance? |
| 18:39.54 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, nop just for enlight |
| 18:40.15 | LinuxNIT | did you install it with synaptic? |
| 18:40.28 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, i don't find it |
| 18:40.48 | LinuxNIT | what theme is it? |
| 18:41.15 | Siulfur | humm |
| 18:41.17 | Siulfur | Aqua |
| 18:41.24 | LinuxNIT | is this for e16? |
| 18:42.14 | saad3000 | LinuxNIT: am back to .12 ;< |
| 18:42.21 | LinuxNIT | :< |
| 18:42.26 | saad3000 | LinuxNIT: I think the 0.5 would solve it. |
| 18:42.28 | LinuxNIT | saad3000, couldnt get it to work? |
| 18:42.31 | saad3000 | are you on 0.5? |
| 18:42.34 | saad3000 | nope |
| 18:42.35 | saad3000 | nothing. |
| 18:42.39 | LinuxNIT | i cant boot 0.5 on my laptop :< |
| 18:42.45 | saad3000 | WHY? |
| 18:42.51 | LinuxNIT | dunno |
| 18:42.53 | saad3000 | what does it give u |
| 18:42.58 | LinuxNIT | it booted once but never again |
| 18:43.01 | LinuxNIT | nothing |
| 18:43.07 | LinuxNIT | absolutly nothing |
| 18:43.11 | LinuxNIT | just sits there |
| 18:43.20 | saad3000 | dont tell me |
| 18:43.21 | saad3000 | after GRUB Loads |
| 18:43.21 | saad3000 | it gives nothing on the kernel |
| 18:43.22 | saad3000 | just a blank |
| 18:43.22 | saad3000 | and u have to power it off? |
| 18:43.23 | saad3000 | alright |
| 18:43.24 | LinuxNIT | Siulfur, what is the theme for? e16 or e17? |
| 18:43.40 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, e16 |
| 18:43.44 | LinuxNIT | saad3000, no i dont get grub |
| 18:43.45 | saad3000 | LinuxNIT: look what you have to try and do |
| 18:43.46 | saad3000 | in the grub menu |
| 18:43.50 | saad3000 | ohhh |
| 18:43.54 | saad3000 | not even grub? |
| 18:44.02 | LinuxNIT | Siulfur, do you have the theme on your computer? |
| 18:44.05 | saad3000 | LinuxNIT: so your in 0.2? now? |
| 18:44.07 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, sure |
| 18:44.13 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 18:45.17 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, humm it is not a theme for E16 :( |
| 18:45.36 | LinuxNIT | show me the link to where you got it |
| 18:45.45 | LinuxNIT | i need to know exactly what you have |
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| 18:46.10 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/aqua_/ |
| 18:46.48 | LinuxNIT | htat is for e16 |
| 18:47.00 | Siulfur | ho |
| 18:47.15 | Siulfur | it is good :) |
| 18:49.18 | LinuxNIT | are you using e16? |
| 18:49.24 | LinuxNIT | or e17 |
| 18:50.24 | psynex | how can you tell? I installed elive with e17 selected, but I'm not sure if it installed it or not |
| 18:50.35 | LinuxNIT | e17 is installed |
| 18:50.43 | LinuxNIT | but it will use e16 by default |
| 18:50.47 | LinuxNIT | click on the deskto |
| 18:50.51 | LinuxNIT | desktop |
| 18:51.07 | LinuxNIT | on the menu is it plain text or does it have icons? |
| 18:51.17 | Siulfur | E16 |
| 18:51.18 | psynex | just text |
| 18:51.26 | LinuxNIT | psynex, you are in e16 |
| 18:51.55 | LinuxNIT | Siulfur, try copying the folder you down loaded into /usr/share/themes |
| 18:51.58 | psynex | ah. that would explain why the kick ass Elive theme isn't showing up |
| 18:52.02 | Siulfur | hooo ok |
| 18:52.07 | LinuxNIT | psynex, ;) |
| 18:52.08 | Siulfur | Thx :D |
| 18:52.14 | LinuxNIT | np |
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| 18:52.27 | LinuxNIT | Siulfur, let me know if that does not work |
| 18:52.43 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, Sure no problem |
| 18:53.09 | LinuxNIT | Siulfur, do you know how to switch themes in e16? |
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| 18:53.28 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, yes =) |
| 18:53.31 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 18:53.34 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, permission denied : / |
| 18:53.36 | saad3000 | Clara: .ar where is that? |
| 18:53.45 | LinuxNIT | root |
| 18:53.48 | LinuxNIT | wait |
| 18:53.53 | Siulfur | humm |
| 18:54.19 | psynex | I apparently don't know how to switch themes in e16. LOL |
| 18:54.38 | LinuxNIT | Siulfur, cpyint to that folder as root |
| 18:54.52 | LinuxNIT | psynex, it is either a right clik on the desktop or a middle click |
| 18:54.53 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, humm i can take that ^^ |
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| 18:55.18 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, but how ? lol |
| 18:55.27 | psynex | ooOOOOoooo. |
| 18:55.28 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 18:55.40 | goldstein | hello |
| 18:55.42 | psynex | stupid middle mouse button! I have to emulate. :( |
| 18:55.46 | LinuxNIT | Siulfur, from the command line type su |
| 18:55.54 | LinuxNIT | hello goldstein |
| 18:55.58 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, hum in teminal |
| 18:56.03 | psynex | hi goldstein |
| 18:56.04 | LinuxNIT | psynex, simulteneous left and right click |
| 18:56.04 | Siulfur | Hello GoldStein |
| 18:56.44 | LinuxNIT | sinplomo, yes in the terminal |
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| 18:56.56 | LinuxNIT | Siulfur, give it your wasspwrd |
| 18:56.59 | LinuxNIT | password |
| 18:57.02 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, yes |
| 18:57.04 | LinuxNIT | then copy it |
| 18:57.24 | LinuxNIT | cp aquaXXXX /usr/share/themes |
| 18:57.58 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, humm ok |
| 18:59.13 | LinuxNIT | Siulfur, did you get it? |
| 18:59.22 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, yes |
| 18:59.30 | LinuxNIT | did the theme load? |
| 18:59.37 | Siulfur | humm |
| 18:59.39 | Siulfur | not load |
| 18:59.45 | LinuxNIT | is it listed? |
| 18:59.51 | Siulfur | nop |
| 19:00.02 | LinuxNIT | hang on.. |
| 19:00.04 | LinuxNIT | ill brb |
| 19:00.06 | Siulfur | ok |
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| 19:01.42 | Siulfur | LinuxNIT, Doh! it is not a problem i will go |
| 19:01.49 | Siulfur | See you all :) |
| 19:01.50 | LinuxNIT | i foudn it |
| 19:01.53 | LinuxNIT | wait |
| 19:01.54 | Siulfur | hooo |
| 19:01.55 | Siulfur | ok |
| 19:02.08 | LinuxNIT | sorry i dont use e16 :D i told you the worng directory |
| 19:02.09 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 19:02.28 | LinuxNIT | place it in /home/usernaem/.e16/themes |
| 19:02.30 | Siulfur | lol |
| 19:02.31 | Siulfur | ok |
| 19:03.13 | Siulfur | hum |
| 19:03.23 | LinuxNIT | copy it there as user |
| 19:03.28 | Siulfur | sure |
| 19:03.28 | LinuxNIT | not root |
| 19:03.33 | Siulfur | arf |
| 19:04.00 | LinuxNIT | sorry i use e17 so i had to log in to e16. :-/ |
| 19:04.11 | psynex | ahhh... cool. personal themes directories. so /usr/share would be like the "documents and settings" of Windows |
| 19:04.14 | Siulfur | no problem |
| 19:04.24 | LinuxNIT | psynex, no not really |
| 19:04.30 | Siulfur | that Work :D |
| 19:04.32 | psynex | awe. :( lol |
| 19:04.49 | LinuxNIT | psynex, all your documents etc will be saved in your /home/your-user-name |
| 19:05.10 | LinuxNIT | /usr/share is a global directory to share certain things for all usres |
| 19:05.17 | LinuxNIT | Siulfur, cool |
| 19:05.22 | LinuxNIT | now hang on guys |
| 19:05.24 | Siulfur | Very Thx dude :D |
| 19:05.31 | LinuxNIT | i have to go for like 5 min |
| 19:05.38 | LinuxNIT | Siulfur, np any time |
| 19:05.41 | LinuxNIT | yill brb |
| 19:05.45 | psynex | k |
| 19:05.47 | Siulfur | me too |
| 19:05.50 | Siulfur | bye =) |
| 19:05.56 | Siulfur | thx for the tips :D |
| 19:06.05 | Siulfur | see you |
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| 19:09.03 | LinuxNIT | ok im back |
| 19:09.16 | LinuxNIT | psynex, now what do you need help with? |
| 19:11.46 | psynex | *shrugs* nothing specific at the moment. Just lots of open ended questions |
| 19:12.02 | psynex | like, when I open a new app, the window always opens off the screen |
| 19:12.49 | LinuxNIT | what do you mean "off the screen" |
| 19:15.28 | LinuxNIT | psynex, what do you mean "off the screen" |
| 19:16.32 | psynex | sorry. went afk. The titlebar appears as a sliver at the bottom of the screen and I have to drag it into view |
| 19:16.59 | psynex | sometimes the are at the top and I have to right-click the bottom border to drag them into view |
| 19:17.01 | LinuxNIT | right lick and choose window place ment setting |
| 19:17.36 | LinuxNIT | wait are you in e16 or 17 i forgot |
| 19:17.37 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 19:17.48 | psynex | 16. I have that option |
| 19:17.54 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 19:18.14 | psynex | I set it to "place windows manually" the other day, but dialogs that open themselves still do it |
| 19:18.28 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 19:18.33 | LinuxNIT | that odd |
| 19:18.37 | psynex | what's this ignore struts? |
| 19:18.43 | LinuxNIT | i dunno |
| 19:18.44 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 19:18.50 | LinuxNIT | like i said i gen use e17 |
| 19:18.50 | psynex | let me test it. lol |
| 19:18.52 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 19:19.57 | psynex | nope. Didn't make a difference and now I'm not sure where Evidence opened up to. lol |
| 19:20.15 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 19:20.40 | psynex | I found it. Tucked at the top edge of my desktop on another Vdesktop |
| 19:21.44 | LinuxNIT | btw in enlightenment you can press the alt key and click any where in a window to drag it |
| 19:21.44 | LinuxNIT | that might be handy for ya |
| 19:24.14 | LinuxNIT | ooh i like this |
| 19:24.40 | LinuxNIT | psynex, change the slide method to Opaque and move the speed down low |
| 19:24.44 | LinuxNIT | looks COOL |
| 19:24.45 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 19:29.05 | psynex | hehehe. |
| 19:29.08 | psynex | I'll do that |
| 19:29.35 | psynex | I keep having to get up. So my chat is delayed |
| 19:30.42 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
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| 19:39.48 | psynex | awesome! that slow slide in is nice |
| 19:40.02 | psynex | it might help me find windows that keep appearing off screen. |
| 19:41.02 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 19:41.11 | LinuxNIT | i think it look cool :> |
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| 19:42.37 | psynex | I just installed the darkone theme. it's cool |
| 19:43.07 | LinuxNIT | xaqua is nice too |
| 19:43.28 | LinuxNIT | complimented with a panther tk theme :D |
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| 19:45.08 | psynex | strange. I have only 4 virtual desktops enabled, but I can move between 8. |
| 19:45.36 | LinuxNIT | 4 virtual desktops with 2 workspaces for each ;) |
| 19:45.42 | LinuxNIT | 4x2=8 |
| 19:46.01 | LinuxNIT | thats about the extent of my math |
| 19:46.03 | LinuxNIT | haha |
| 19:46.12 | psynex | why do they have 2 workspaces? |
| 19:46.19 | LinuxNIT | http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ss9ae.png |
| 19:46.28 | LinuxNIT | thats my desktop in e16 |
| 19:46.35 | egrub | apt, vobcopy |
| 19:46.36 | apt | it has been said that vobcopy is the repository of elive: deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive |
| 19:47.29 | psynex | hmmmm... image won't open |
| 19:47.55 | LinuxNIT | firfox |
| 19:47.59 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 19:48.27 | psynex | yea. |
| 19:48.45 | psynex | doesn't open in existing tab, or a new tab |
| 19:49.19 | LinuxNIT | just choose open in web broser |
| 19:49.25 | psynex | ... unless I tell it to. Like I just did. But a single left click on the link in this chat window did nothing |
| 19:49.58 | LinuxNIT | yeah a left click is not supoosed to do anything |
| 19:50.06 | LinuxNIT | right click ;) |
| 19:50.55 | psynex | bleh. Mac emu UIs |
| 19:51.21 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 19:51.30 | LinuxNIT | i personally like the way mac looks |
| 19:51.37 | LinuxNIT | i just dont like their price tag |
| 19:52.09 | psynex | they probably would have a broader audience if they cut that |
| 19:52.21 | psynex | it already appeals to so many ppl, but they don't want to pay |
| 19:53.40 | psynex | so how do I get rid of this second Vdesktop pager thing so I just have 4 desktops? |
| 19:54.23 | LinuxNIT | well before you get rid of it |
| 19:54.35 | LinuxNIT | do you like fancy stuff? |
| 19:54.39 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 19:54.47 | psynex | sometimes |
| 19:54.53 | LinuxNIT | install 3ddesk |
| 19:55.00 | LinuxNIT | and run it reall quick |
| 19:55.07 | psynex | ok. |
| 19:55.08 | LinuxNIT | apt-get install 3ddesk as root |
| 19:55.45 | psynex | hmm.... couldn't find package |
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| 19:56.10 | LinuxNIT | apt-get install 3ddesktop |
| 19:56.12 | LinuxNIT | ;0 |
| 19:56.16 | LinuxNIT | wait |
| 19:56.22 | LinuxNIT | first do apt-get update |
| 19:56.59 | psynex | ah. I see it in synaptic. 3ddesktop |
| 19:57.04 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 19:57.20 | psynex | wait. I'm only running int like an SVGA mode though |
| 19:57.51 | LinuxNIT | glxinfo | grep rendering |
| 19:58.02 | LinuxNIT | does it say yes or no |
| 19:58.14 | wasynyt | good evening everyone |
| 19:58.23 | LinuxNIT | good evening |
| 19:59.16 | psynex | says no |
| 20:00.55 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, do you use nvidia? |
| 20:01.17 | wasynyt | yes |
| 20:01.27 | wasynyt | mighty mx440 |
| 20:01.42 | psynex | lol |
| 20:01.42 | LinuxNIT | can you help psynex get his working |
| 20:01.52 | wasynyt | i could try |
| 20:02.03 | LinuxNIT | i dont know much about nvidia sincei have a POS intel chipset |
| 20:02.22 | wasynyt | i dont know too much either.. it has motsly just worked |
| 20:02.24 | psynex | won't this require me to download the kernel source and nvid drivers and all that jazz? |
| 20:02.27 | wasynyt | *mostly |
| 20:02.53 | LinuxNIT | source no i dont think so |
| 20:03.08 | LinuxNIT | i thgouht elive had all nvida drivers built in |
| 20:03.10 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, ? |
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| 20:04.10 | LinuxNIT | psynex, what nv card do you have? |
| 20:04.23 | psynex | it has a couple of options during boot for them, but I got an error from the live CD that there were no drivers |
| 20:04.30 | wasynyt | well it depends how old the drver package is... plus how new the hardware is |
| 20:04.37 | LinuxNIT | ah |
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| 20:05.56 | LinuxNIT | dadgum i wish i knew more about nvidia |
| 20:05.59 | LinuxNIT | and ati |
| 20:06.03 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 20:06.18 | wasynyt | hard to know much abou them as they are both closed :S |
| 20:06.29 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 20:06.55 | wasynyt | there is no source available |
| 20:07.15 | LinuxNIT | well i mean more about installing/getting them to work |
| 20:07.29 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 20:07.49 | wasynyt | well one can allways try to install nvida by hand |
| 20:07.51 | LinuxNIT | got my brothers ati working (luckily) |
| 20:07.52 | psynex | I have a bunch of reference materials for getting mine to work. I'll give it a go |
| 20:08.12 | LinuxNIT | ref materials from elive/ |
| 20:08.13 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 20:08.22 | psynex | that and an article in MaximumPC |
| 20:08.28 | psynex | and Nvidia's website |
| 20:08.31 | LinuxNIT | use the elive one first |
| 20:08.44 | psynex | will do |
| 20:09.15 | psynex | the others should be good as well. All of them are Debian based installs |
| 20:09.46 | psynex | but I'll stick with elive steps first since it's specific to the build |
| 20:09.49 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 20:12.17 | psynex | how do I edit that apt sources list as root? |
| 20:15.11 | LinuxNIT | what are you trying to get? 2.6.15 kerenel? |
| 20:16.24 | wasynyt | su scite /etc/apt/sources.lst |
| 20:16.38 | wasynyt | if i remember correctly |
| 20:16.42 | wasynyt | *sudo |
| 20:17.11 | LinuxNIT | i dont think sudo is set up for user on elive |
| 20:17.21 | wasynyt | hmm it used to work |
| 20:17.30 | wasynyt | thana does not like it thou |
| 20:17.30 | psynex | yea, the wiki says to add the tests branch and update to the .15 kernel |
| 20:17.53 | LinuxNIT | link me |
| 20:18.05 | wasynyt | thats only because 2.6.12.* does not have source files in repos anymore |
| 20:18.10 | LinuxNIT | i think the 2.6.15 kernel has been moved to stable branch |
| 20:18.37 | LinuxNIT | also apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6.15 |
| 20:18.38 | psynex | http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Nvidia |
| 20:19.02 | psynex | brb. getting food |
| 20:20.08 | wasynyt | k |
| 20:23.01 | LinuxNIT | ok yeah he needs to update repos to get the drivers |
| 20:23.46 | wasynyt | and edit grub |
| 20:24.07 | wasynyt | and load kernel spefic drivers |
| 20:24.16 | wasynyt | like diswrapper |
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| 20:24.35 | wasynyt | good evening simonpca |
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| 20:26.21 | wasynyt | :/ |
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| 20:27.16 | Siulfur | hi |
| 20:27.26 | wasynyt | good evening |
| 20:27.30 | LinuxNIT | wb Siulfur |
| 20:27.40 | Siulfur | =) |
| 20:28.21 | psynex | hooray for microwaveables! |
| 20:29.03 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 20:29.10 | psynex | what the heck is diswrapper? |
| 20:29.51 | wasynyt | if you dont know it you dont need it :D |
| 20:30.36 | psynex | hehe. ok |
| 20:30.42 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:31.26 | LinuxNIT | gtg |
| 20:31.29 | LinuxNIT | bros graduation |
| 20:31.31 | LinuxNIT | bbl |
| 20:31.31 | psynex | cya |
| 20:31.44 | LinuxNIT | cyall and psynex Siulfur wilcome to elive |
| 20:33.38 | wasynyt | see you later LinuxNIT |
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| 20:44.29 | psynex | should I add tests to idefix AND vobcopy? |
| 20:46.29 | wasynyt | yes... i think so |
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| 20:46.40 | psynex | nvm. I don't have vobcopy in the list anyway |
| 20:47.03 | wasynyt | k |
| 20:53.16 | wasynyt | time for me to get some sleep |
| 20:53.22 | wasynyt | good night everyone |
| 20:54.33 | Mutacion_ | qiubole pos cua |
| 20:54.49 | Mutacion_ | i come from there... i sleep 2hrs :) yejaw! |
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| 20:55.48 | Skovanden | Hola :) |
| 20:57.39 | Skovanden | no life i guess :) |
| 21:02.11 | Mutacion_ | si si hay vida |
| 21:02.18 | Mutacion_ | y la nocturna es la mejor |
| 21:10.54 | Skovanden | Erh.. ok? |
| 21:15.44 | psynex | looks like he says "and the night is better" |
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| 21:16.45 | Skovanden | aha, im a non-spanish speaker/reader :P |
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| 21:18.30 | psynex | I remember bits and pieces from high school |
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| 21:21.01 | Mutacion_ | haha |
| 21:21.18 | Mutacion_ | i thought that u r/w spanish :P but i was wrong |
| 21:22.22 | psynex | I don't greet anyone on the internet with another language. I don't want them to assume I know the language. |
| 21:22.52 | psynex | I expect them to respond just like Mutacion_ did. |
| 21:22.56 | psynex | :) |
| 21:23.10 | Mutacion_ | hahahahha |
| 21:23.51 | Mutacion_ | but spanish is my 1st languaje..and sometimes i get tire thinking/speaking in english :s |
| 21:25.22 | psynex | of course. We all feel that way. It's much easier to communicate in your own language. :) |
| 21:25.38 | Mutacion_ | so know i will speak spanish :p |
| 21:25.42 | Mutacion_ | ahh wy qe rico xD |
| 21:25.45 | psynex | but I don't remember enough spanish to even say it is my second language. hehehe |
| 21:26.00 | Mutacion_ | hahaha |
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| 21:32.59 | Skovanden | psynex i dont find it as a problem so stop the chitchat.. |
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| 21:35.49 | psynex | What? I never said it was a problem. I'm just stating my observations. I don't have any problem with anyone or anything. |
| 21:36.09 | Skovanden | thats good |
| 21:36.14 | psynex | I actually enjoy being around other cultures |
| 21:36.22 | psynex | and all they have to offer |
| 21:36.47 | Skovanden | good for you |
| 21:38.00 | psynex | I'm sorry if I offended anyone somehow. I didn't mean to. |
| 21:39.16 | Skovanden | Mutacion depends on who's making them ;) |
| 21:39.28 | Skovanden | psynex dont think about it |
| 21:39.32 | Skovanden | felix how did it go with the nic ? |
| 21:39.50 | Mutacion | Skovanden, mexican tacos..ARE TACOS.. xD |
| 21:40.32 | Skovanden | Mutacion hehe naah taco tastes different if you get them in Mexico then lets say Denmark |
| 21:43.08 | Mutacion | Skovanden, outside mexico..the only way to eat tacos its doing them the mexican way... so.. u have to do them :P |
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| 21:45.39 | Skovanden | Mutacion well here in dk we do ' |
| 21:45.48 | Skovanden | them different ;) |
| 21:45.52 | Mutacion | the mexican way? |
| 21:46.05 | Mutacion | ahhh theyre different.. giak :P then that things arent tacos jojo |
| 21:47.33 | Skovanden | we use like strawberry in taco |
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| 21:47.58 | Mutacion | strawberry?????????? what the hell? :s |
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| 21:49.45 | psynex | going to attempt installing a new kernel. I might vanish, but I'll return sooner or later. Thanks to you all in here for helping me out with elive. |
| 21:49.53 | ElonGlasb | Does anyone have a Creative Audigy LS card (ca0106) running under Elive? |
| 21:50.01 | Mutacion | psynex, nos vemos |
| 21:50.11 | Mutacion | mmm.. me nop |
| 21:51.49 | Skovanden | ElonGlasb what seems to be the problem ? |
| 21:52.25 | ElonGlasb | Skovanden, Can't run that Audigy card |
| 21:52.40 | Skovanden | can elive detect it ? |
| 21:52.48 | ElonGlasb | Its detected but can't open the mixer |
| 21:53.15 | Skovanden | Hmm.. weird |
| 21:53.29 | Skovanden | cant not even remember what mixer elive uses |
| 21:53.44 | ElonGlasb | Alsamixer I guess |
| 21:54.11 | Skovanden | is it in a laptop or ? |
| 21:55.22 | ElonGlasb | Well it isn't my computer but from a friend not only the soundcard didn't work also the TV-card and no usb-wireless connection could be received |
| 21:56.03 | Skovanden | yeah some hardware is not supported by some kernel versions |
| 21:56.13 | Skovanden | upgrade the kernel if possible |
| 21:56.38 | ElonGlasb | It was just a try from the Elive CD |
| 21:57.55 | ElonGlasb | I couldn't convince him to go over to Linux(hehe) |
| 21:58.38 | Skovanden | Well let him start with something like Mandriva or Fedora |
| 21:58.47 | Skovanden | i always recomment that to beginners |
| 21:58.55 | tuxit | or ubuntu |
| 21:59.02 | Mutacion | or netbsd |
| 21:59.03 | Mutacion | xD |
| 21:59.07 | tuxit | ouch |
| 21:59.10 | tuxit | :p |
| 21:59.16 | Skovanden | Mutacion netbsd power !! :D |
| 21:59.19 | ElonGlasb | Yeah I know but he liked Elive (showed on my laptop) |
| 21:59.21 | Mutacion | jojo |
| 21:59.22 | Skovanden | MACOSX POWER! :D |
| 21:59.56 | Mutacion | ElonGlasb, maybe u can install elive and gnome (cause e17 its a little weird for him maybe he will miss icons xD) |
| 22:01.01 | ElonGlasb | Mutacion, Yeah will search for another try |
| 22:01.31 | Mutacion | :) |
| 22:02.03 | Skovanden | brb, kid screaming |
| 22:02.34 | Mutacion | Skovanden, maybe he has hambrita xD |
| 22:08.01 | Skovanden | Nah he just wants to kill his dad ;) |
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| 22:35.25 | Skovanden | Damn to much coffee, not tired.. the girl is sleeping and so is the kid.. Hmm.. boring |
| 22:36.35 | quamaretto | Try installing linux-wlan-ng; it's a party, I can tell you |
| 22:37.35 | quamaretto | "Error 2". Thanks for the detailed info thar. |
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| 23:06.28 | mada | yo |
| 23:07.08 | Mutacion | yo tmb |
| 23:07.29 | mada | how goes it? |
| 23:09.20 | Mutacion | down here ..nice..and there? |
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| 23:11.13 | mada | meh, kinda warm ... but live continues |
| 23:12.15 | mada | life* |
| 23:12.24 | Mutacion | :p..brb |
| 23:12.27 | Mutacion | apt time-to |
| 23:12.28 | apt | it has been said that time-to is its HAMBRITA TIME!!! |
| 23:12.36 | mada | wow, horrible typo ... took me a minute to catch too, i are tired |
| 23:12.40 | mada | ah, okies |
| 23:12.57 | mada | apt |
| 23:13.05 | mada | apt help |
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| 23:30.01 | Skovanden | Hmm.. got something in my ear.. |
| 23:34.20 | mada | thats no good |
| 23:37.21 | Skovanden | hehe :P |
| 23:37.34 | Skovanden | Well hitting the sack, you all enjoy the night/morning/day/evening :D |
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| 23:58.15 | red- | Disaster!!! |
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| 23:58.35 | red- | el menu derecho en e16 no me aparece completo :( |
