irclog2html for #elive on 20060521

`03:20.29`	`LinuxNIT`	`pale_horse, so you went for the upgrade again?`
`03:20.30`	`pale_horse`	`no not yet`
`03:20.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh ok`
`03:20.34`	`pale_horse`	`wanted to get stable again and get a tar of /home`
`03:20.35`	`pale_horse`	`and /etc`
`03:20.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`ah`
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`03:20.57`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmmm wasynyt is joining #elive in his sleep`
`03:20.57`	`LinuxNIT`	`is that sleep chatting?`
`03:23.39`	`roxville`	`LOL`
`03:23.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`:D`
`03:24.04`	`roxville`	`you know you're hooked when you do that...`
`03:24.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:24.15`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeah`
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`03:32.08`	`roxville`	`so pale_horse what happened... could you please fill me in on that? you don't have to do it now, just promise me you will... within a year or so :)`
`03:32.39`	`pale_horse`	`sure rox`
`03:32.47`	`pale_horse`	`it seemed to go OK`
`03:32.54`	`roxville`	`thank you`
`03:33.05`	`pale_horse`	`might have me being impatient`
`03:33.24`	`pale_horse`	`I'll give you all the details tomorrow OK ?`
`03:36.48`	`roxville`	`ok bud :)`
`03:36.58`	`pale_horse`	`we'll do it again`
`03:37.09`	`roxville`	`good!`
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`03:39.14`	`roxville`	`awww they leave together... :)`
`03:44.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
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`04:16.11`	`Psynex`	`anyone around?`
`04:16.22`	`roxville`	`nope, noone's here`
`04:16.24`	`roxville`	`:)`
`04:16.30`	`roxville`	`hiya Psynex`
`04:16.35`	`roxville`	`how are you?`
`04:16.46`	`Psynex`	`alright`
`04:16.59`	`Psynex`	`just trying to get printer set up in elive`
`04:17.22`	`roxville`	`ok... did you open the control panel?`
`04:17.41`	`roxville`	`it's the folder with the tools, in the launcher bar`
`04:18.53`	`roxville`	`the printer config is behind the keys icon`
`04:21.10`	`Psynex`	`yea. I did all of that`
`04:21.18`	`Psynex`	`I picked my printer, set it to local`
`04:21.38`	`Psynex`	`it doesn't detect it, so I set it to use USB #1-15 and it doesn't work on any of them`
`04:21.57`	`roxville`	`hmmm...`
`04:22.24`	`roxville`	`doesn lsusb detect it?`
`04:23.31`	`Psynex`	`lsusb?`
`04:23.44`	`roxville`	`yes, open a terminal and type: lsusb`
`04:24.06`	`roxville`	`it lists all your connected usb devices`
`04:24.46`	`Psynex`	`it just shoots me back to a prompt`
`04:27.27`	`roxville`	`ok`
`04:27.35`	`roxville`	`then something is wrong`
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`04:27.51`	`roxville`	`hi byt3`
`04:27.56`	`roxville`	`welcome to #elive`
`04:28.18`	`roxville`	`Psynex, not sure what... but your install may have gone wrong`
`04:28.26`	`byt3`	`hi roxville`
`04:29.44`	`roxville`	`:)`
`04:29.57`	`Psynex`	`eep. Well. I'll keep looking into it. Maybe I can find a trick or two. I gotta head out for now`
`04:30.18`	`roxville`	`wow...`
`04:30.22`	`roxville`	`ok`
`04:30.39`	`roxville`	`byt3, are you using elive?`
`04:30.44`	`roxville`	`or just looking in to it?`
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`04:33.43`	`bi_fi`	`hi all`
`04:33.45`	`bi_fi`	`:)`
`04:34.32`	`roxville`	`hi bi_fi :)`
`04:35.03`	`bi_fi`	`I'm early today`
`04:35.04`	`bi_fi`	`:)`
`04:35.21`	`roxville`	`cool!`
`04:36.54`	`bi_fi`	`I'm going to register myself on the community website`
`04:38.32`	`bi_fi`	`lol I'm already registered :d`
`04:41.39`	`roxville`	`LOL`
`04:41.54`	`bi_fi`	`roxville, do you have conky`
`04:41.55`	`roxville`	`as bi_fi ?`
`04:42.10`	`bi_fi`	`yep Bi_fi`
`04:42.14`	`bi_fi`	`bi_fi`
`04:42.17`	`bi_fi`	`is my username`
`04:42.18`	`roxville`	`yes, i have konq`
`04:42.21`	`bi_fi`	`ah`
`04:42.22`	`roxville`	`yeah`
`04:42.27`	`bi_fi`	`does it flicker?`
`04:42.27`	`roxville`	`lol, that's funny!`
`04:42.45`	`roxville`	`flicker...hmmm lemme check... i haven't used it in a while`
`04:43.05`	`bi_fi`	`and when you move something over it , it wipes out :(`
`04:43.42`	`roxville`	`how much ram do you have?`
`04:44.01`	`bi_fi`	`512`
`04:44.08`	`bi_fi`	`I use E17`
`04:44.59`	`roxville`	`i have 512 too... and i was using in with 256 not too long ago`
`04:45.07`	`roxville`	`so that should be ok... weird`
`04:45.34`	`bi_fi`	`and I also have to turn off double buffering or my whole screen gets black`
`04:45.43`	`roxville`	`can you try removing and re-installing it? and see if there are any recommended packages`
`04:45.44`	`bi_fi`	`double buffering in conky`
`04:45.52`	`bi_fi`	`ok`
`04:46.15`	`roxville`	`because it is behaving very nicely on my desktop`
`04:46.32`	`roxville`	`and i know LinuxNIT uses it too... he uses it all the time`
`04:46.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`uses what?`
`04:46.55`	`roxville`	`kpnq`
`04:46.59`	`roxville`	`lol`
`04:47.01`	`roxville`	`konq`
`04:47.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`ah`
`04:47.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`hehe`
`04:47.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`shhhhhh`
`04:47.12`	`bi_fi`	`nope no extra packages needed`
`04:47.16`	`LinuxNIT`	`thats a hush hush thing`
`04:47.18`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`04:47.24`	`LinuxNIT`	`jk`
`04:47.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`nah`
`04:47.53`	`roxville`	`bif ok, just re-install and see what happens`
`04:48.19`	`roxville`	`the problem is: i like to drink... but i hate being drunk`
`04:48.20`	`bi_fi`	`ok done that`
`04:48.29`	`roxville`	`ok, let's pray...`
`04:48.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh`
`04:48.38`	`bi_fi`	`it still wipes out`
`04:48.39`	`bi_fi`	`:(`
`04:48.47`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeah bad combo`
`04:48.53`	`roxville`	`how did you remove?`
`04:49.00`	`bi_fi`	`synaptic`
`04:49.18`	`roxville`	`total remove or just uninstall?`
`04:49.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt-get remove --purge konqorer`
`04:49.31`	`bi_fi`	`total remove`
`04:49.51`	`roxville`	`ok... so weird...`
`04:50.01`	`LinuxNIT`	`it could be a problem in one of the libs`
`04:50.14`	`roxville`	`yeah, that's what i'm thinking too`
`04:50.37`	`roxville`	`bi_fi, try again the command that LinuxNIT posted`
`04:50.42`	`bi_fi`	`ok`
`04:50.52`	`roxville`	`and then: apt-get install konqueror`
`04:50.54`	`LinuxNIT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:51.11`	`roxville`	`try to overlook his oklahoman spelling, though`
`04:51.15`	`roxville`	`lol`
`04:51.17`	`roxville`	`:)`
`04:51.18`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`04:52.14`	`bi_fi`	`now he's deleting much more`
`04:52.23`	`LinuxNIT`	`bi_fi, did you do apt-get update recently?`
`04:52.28`	`bi_fi`	`yes`
`04:52.30`	`roxville`	`"ya, i isntall konqorer las nigh... wos no porblums at all"`
`04:52.31`	`bi_fi`	`just did it :)`
`04:52.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`ok`
`04:53.10`	`roxville`	`bi_fi, ok, good :)`
`04:53.22`	`bi_fi`	`lol he's also removing smb4k :)`
`04:53.47`	`roxville`	`whoa... remember that, and reinstall`
`04:54.07`	`bi_fi`	`lol :)`
`04:54.39`	`bi_fi`	`but why do I have to reinstall konqueror?`
`04:54.46`	`bi_fi`	`I want conky :)`
`04:55.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`conky?`
`04:55.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`whats that`
`04:55.10`	`bi_fi`	`yes :)`
`04:55.26`	`bi_fi`	`system monitoring ...`
`04:55.37`	`roxville`	`oh... LOL`
`04:56.02`	`roxville`	`well... have no idea what that is... i though you meant konqueror`
`04:56.08`	`bi_fi`	`hehe`
`04:56.22`	`bi_fi`	`konquerer works now :)`
`04:56.34`	`bi_fi`	`but conky still doesn't :d`
`04:57.04`	`bi_fi`	`thx`
`04:57.04`	`roxville`	`red bull even`
`04:57.22`	`roxville`	`no prob... the least i can do after a mistake like that`
`04:57.36`	`roxville`	`ok, then apt-get remove --purge conky`
`04:57.42`	`LinuxNIT`	`then apt-get clean`
`04:57.44`	`roxville`	`and apt-get install conky`
`04:57.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt-get clean first`
`04:58.02`	`LinuxNIT`	`before apt-get install`
`04:58.16`	`LinuxNIT`	`apt-get clean well clear the local repo`
`04:58.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:59.51`	`bi_fi`	`nope still wipes :)`
`04:59.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`it will force apt to redownload the files. in case of a bad download`
`04:59.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`you cleaned and redownloaded?`
`04:59.58`	`bi_fi`	`yep`
`04:59.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmmm`
`04:59.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`mine is setting up`
`04:59.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`how much room does conky take?`
`05:00.08`	`bi_fi`	`500 kb or something`
`05:00.11`	`bi_fi`	`really small`
`05:00.37`	`roxville`	`may be it doesn't go well with the e17 desktop`
`05:00.47`	`bi_fi`	`yes I think so`
`05:00.54`	`bi_fi`	`too bad :(`
`05:01.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeah well it wont even load over here`
`05:01.11`	`bi_fi`	`it's a funny tool`
`05:01.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`konq works`
`05:01.18`	`roxville`	`what's the name of that other, old monitor app?`
`05:01.22`	`bi_fi`	`gkrellm`
`05:01.26`	`bi_fi`	`I 'm using that`
`05:01.29`	`roxville`	`no...`
`05:01.45`	`bi_fi`	`lol`
`05:01.49`	`roxville`	`i can't remember...`
`05:02.00`	`bi_fi`	`just a second I'll tell you`
`05:02.19`	`roxville`	`well elive comes with gkrellm, so... we know that works`
`05:02.24`	`roxville`	`lol, ok`
`05:02.28`	`bi_fi`	`torsmo`
`05:02.32`	`roxville`	`YES!`
`05:02.37`	`roxville`	`thank you :)`
`05:02.45`	`roxville`	`i thought i was gonna go nuts`
`05:02.53`	`bi_fi`	`hehe`
`05:03.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`conky is based on that`
`05:03.55`	`bi_fi`	`yes indeed`
`05:03.58`	`roxville`	`based on torsmo?`
`05:04.01`	`roxville`	`wow`
`05:04.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`earn-py]# apt-cache search torsmo`
`05:04.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`conky - highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo`
`05:04.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`root@E-mobile[/home/david/learn-py]#`
`05:04.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`:D`
`05:04.17`	`LinuxNIT`	`!flood`
`05:04.22`	`roxville`	`lol`
`05:04.23`	`bi_fi`	`nice`
`05:04.43`	`roxville`	`LinuxNIT, py? a python app?`
`05:04.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`but torsmo itself is not in the repo`
`05:05.17`	`LinuxNIT`	`learn-py is the dir where i have the python files i play/experiment with`
`05:05.24`	`LinuxNIT`	`to learn`
`05:05.24`	`roxville`	`oh...`
`05:05.40`	`LinuxNIT`	`hence learn-py`
`05:05.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`:D`
`05:05.44`	`roxville`	`it says "earn-py"`
`05:05.53`	`roxville`	`<LinuxNIT> earn-py]# apt-cache search torsmo`
`05:05.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`look at third line`
`05:06.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`root@E-mobile[/home/david/learn-py]# apt-cache search torsmo`
`05:06.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`conky - highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo`
`05:06.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`root@E-mobile[/home/david/learn-py]#`
`05:06.25`	`LinuxNIT`	`there thats the FULL 3 lines`
`05:06.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`first time was a partial line`
`05:06.40`	`LinuxNIT`	`;P`
`05:07.35`	`bi_fi`	`I have to go now :)`
`05:07.41`	`bi_fi`	`see you later`
`05:07.44`	`LinuxNIT`	`bi`
`05:07.51`	`roxville`	`oh...`
`05:07.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`i am`
`05:07.56`	`roxville`	`ok, see you bi_fi`
`05:07.58`	`LinuxNIT`	`im the greatest`
`05:08.00`	`roxville`	`lol LinuxNIT`
`05:08.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`wait ....`
`05:08.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`im not belgian`
`05:08.09`	`bi_fi`	`haha LinuxNIT from Belgium?`
`05:08.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`crap`
`05:08.16`	`roxville`	`Jaques Brel is...`
`05:08.24`	`bi_fi`	`lol roxville`
`05:08.25`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh`
`05:08.31`	`bi_fi`	`where are you from?`
`05:08.40`	`roxville`	`really... he was a master`
`05:08.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`yours?`
`05:08.57`	`roxville`	`hmmm or maybe HERGE'`
`05:09.01`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol jk`
`05:09.20`	`roxville`	`bi_fi, i am from sweden, but live in the usa`
`05:09.36`	`roxville`	`zweden in flemish`
`05:09.44`	`bi_fi`	`lol`
`05:10.08`	`bi_fi`	`and you speak dutch?`
`05:10.14`	`bi_fi`	`(flemish)`
`05:10.37`	`LinuxNIT`	`brb`
`05:10.55`	`roxville`	`no i don't`
`05:11.24`	`roxville`	`swedish and dutch sound surprisingly alike`
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`05:11.50`	`bi_fi`	`didn't know that`
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`05:12.38`	`roxville`	`and a LOT of both flemish and wallon ppl went to sweden in the middle ages... they started what became the famous swedish steel`
`05:13.05`	`bi_fi`	`Oh you like history stuff .. :)`
`05:13.36`	`roxville`	`i guess... i like to know why things are the way they are :)`
`05:13.54`	`roxville`	`and you gotta look back a little to find out`
`05:14.00`	`roxville`	`usually`
`05:14.02`	`bi_fi`	`hehe I should have paid more attention in history class`
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`05:14.23`	`roxville`	`lol, maybe`
`05:14.38`	`bi_fi`	`btw torsmo works`
`05:14.47`	`bi_fi`	`it doesn't flicker but still wipes`
`05:15.03`	`roxville`	`ok`
`05:15.11`	`roxville`	`it's still weird...`
`05:15.21`	`roxville`	`that must be e17 something`
`05:15.28`	`bi_fi`	`I guess`
`05:15.37`	`roxville`	`LOL`
`05:15.39`	`bi_fi`	`lol`
`05:15.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`mwhahahahahah`
`05:16.08`	`roxville`	`LinuxNIT, is dead! long live LinuxNIT !!`
`05:16.19`	`bi_fi`	`haha`
`05:16.24`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`05:16.37`	`LinuxNIT`	`hah that guy thought he could killme`
`05:16.40`	`LinuxNIT`	`whata dufus`
`05:16.55`	`bi_fi`	`gotta learn now :)`
`05:17.00`	`bi_fi`	`laterz...`
`05:17.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`llater`
`05:17.16`	`roxville`	`cya bi_fi`
`05:18.37`	`roxville`	`that look spretty slick, with that thing there...`
`05:19.08`	`rox\|ville`	`yeah!`
`05:19.43`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`05:20.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`#error command ville not found`
`05:20.19`	`rox\|ville`	`duuh!`
`05:22.12`	`LinuxNIT`	`hey let me know if i get disconnected... i tend to not notice`
`05:27.28`	`wasynyt_sleep`	`wtf`
`05:27.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`?`
`05:28.00`	`wasnyt`	`how can we tell you if you are disconnected`
`05:28.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`05:28.12`	`LinuxNIT`	`lmfao`
`05:28.17`	`LinuxNIT`	`i was joking`
`05:28.27`	`wasnyt`	`:D`
`05:29.19`	`rox\|ville`	`:D`
`05:31.31`	`rox\|ville`	`ok, i'm done... i gotta go to bed... see you all later`
`05:31.45`	`rox\|ville`	`wasynyt, have a wonderful day... until i get back :)`
`05:31.46`	`LinuxNIT`	`later`
`05:31.48`	`rox\|ville`	`hehe`
`05:31.57`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`05:31.58`	`rox\|ville`	`LinuxNIT, you too dude`
`05:31.59`	`wasynyt`	`later`
`05:34.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`wasynyt_away, maybe tomorrow i build a new iso of development ;)`
`05:34.32`	`wasynyt_away`	`ohh...`
`05:34.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`05:34.53`	`wasynyt_away`	`:D`
`05:35.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`im finishing the features on the installer`
`05:35.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`making a lot of tests ;)`
`05:35.31`	`wasynyt_away`	`:D`
`05:35.50`	`wasynyt_away`	`have to eat something`
`05:35.58`	`rox\|ville`	`LOL`
`05:36.23`	`rox\|ville`	`Thanatermesis, don't say stuff like that... it's not good for wasynyt_away 's blood sugar`
`05:36.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`05:36.36`	`rox\|ville`	`ok, i'm out...`
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`06:00.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://forums.macgeneration.com/galerie/data/506/medium/ms255.jpg`
`06:02.08`	`LinuxNIT`	`lmfao`
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`07:19.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/Development/`
`07:20.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`i don't remember all the changes between the release 0.4.2 and this future 0.5 but if i forget any... just comment me it in a private message and i read tomorrow`
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`10:34.32`	`Skovanden`	`morning :)`
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`10:38.07`	`Siulfur`	`Hello guys`
`10:47.18`	`Skovanden`	`hi Siulfur`
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`11:16.17`	`Siulfur`	`=)`
`11:16.19`	`Siulfur`	`sorry`
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`12:53.14`	`Siulfur`	`=)`
`12:54.30`	`bodha`	`koukou, bonjours a tous :D`
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`12:59.06`	`Siulfur`	`salut :)`
`12:59.37`	`pale_horse`	`bon jour Siulfur`
`13:00.12`	`Siulfur`	`pale_horse, Bonjour pale horse =)`
`13:00.46`	`pale_horse`	`je me parl un peu Francais`
`13:01.03`	`pale_horse`	`petit peu`
`13:01.10`	`Siulfur`	`ok`
`13:01.29`	`Siulfur`	`if you want i speak litle english :p`
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`13:01.49`	`pale_horse`	`lived in Orleans as a child but never used it so I forgot it`
`13:03.11`	`Siulfur`	`ho`
`13:03.27`	`Siulfur`	`you live in orleans it is in Frane :p`
`13:03.31`	`Siulfur`	`france`
`13:03.44`	`pale_horse`	`I did live there in the 1950s`
`13:04.27`	`Siulfur`	`gne ?`
`13:04.40`	`pale_horse`	`?`
`13:04.48`	`pales_rider`	`well look at my honey speaking french`
`13:04.49`	`Siulfur`	`i dunno !`
`13:04.58`	`Siulfur`	`: /`
`13:06.05`	`Siulfur`	`je veux bien un peu de francais :$`
`13:07.26`	`pale_horse`	`:)`
`13:07.48`	`pale_horse`	`merci ( I think )`
`13:08.51`	`Siulfur`	`?`
`13:10.57`	`pales_rider`	`brb`
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`13:55.11`	`Groquick`	`hello`
`13:55.14`	`Thanashiba`	`apt, changenick`
`13:55.32`	`apt`	`well, changenick is Elive_user Elive_user2 Elive_user3, please change their nickname, if not, no more users can be posible to enter in the channel, you can change it with /nick yournewnick`
`13:55.33`	`Thanashiba`	`hello Groquick`
`13:55.35`	`Groquick`	`i'll install Elive from CD`
`13:55.51`	`Groquick`	`Will my partitions change ?`
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`14:26.58`	`Thanashiba`	`apt, changenick`
`14:27.08`	`apt`	`methinks changenick is Elive_user Elive_user2 Elive_user3, please change their nickname, if not, no more users can be posible to enter in the channel, you can change it with /nick yournewnick`
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`14:41.22`	`pale_horse`	`:) is happy`
`14:41.36`	`pale_horse`	`apt-get dist-upgrade didn't bork me`
`14:42.23`	`pale_horse`	`Thanatermesis, do I need to do apt-get install e-modules after a dist-upgrade ?`
`14:42.44`	`Thanashiba`	`well, if you want to use the extra modules, install it with apt-get, yes`
`14:43.04`	`pale_horse`	`will I have thedual modules issue ?`
`14:43.24`	`pale_horse`	`that can be solved in elpanel, correct ?`
`14:43.44`	`Thanashiba`	`dual modules ?`
`14:43.58`	`Thanashiba`	`do you have make a look on the bugs section of elive site ?`
`14:44.04`	`pale_horse`	`yes I did it once before and had 2 ibars 2 pagers etc`
`14:44.07`	`pale_horse`	`yes`
`14:44.20`	`Thanashiba`	`well... is all explained on this section i think`
`14:44.25`	`pale_horse`	`elpanel is the answer :)`
`14:44.35`	`Thanashiba`	`yes :)`
`14:44.40`	`Thanashiba`	`apt, elpanel`
`14:44.48`	`apt`	`methinks elpanel is the powered center of control of Elive, where all the answers of your questions are, your heart is prepaired for discover all features ? ;)`
`14:44.48`	`pale_horse`	`:)`
`14:44.58`	`pale_horse`	`gotta love it`
`14:47.47`	`Thanashiba`	`well... new iso uploaded :)`
`14:48.17`	`pale_horse`	`outstanding Thanashiba`
`14:49.13`	`Thanashiba`	`well, a development version just builded of the future version 0.5`
`14:49.41`	`Thanashiba`	`you have a little changelog to i have writed yesterday in the elive site: download -> development`
`14:49.54`	`Thanashiba`	`make a look to the changelog and tell me what you think...`
`14:50.00`	`Thanashiba`	`i think to i forget a lot of things, hehe`
`14:51.20`	`pale_horse`	`OK I sure will`
`14:56.33`	`pale_horse`	`I will be installing 0.5 tomorrow Thanashiba`
`14:58.42`	`Thanashiba`	`ok :)`
`14:59.11`	`pale_horse`	`with my apt-get dist-upgrade and the new emodules all is working perfectly`
`14:59.20`	`pale_horse`	`wlan - everything`
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`15:00.20`	`Thanashiba`	`nice :)`
`15:00.23`	`kender`	`hello`
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`15:43.58`	`bi_fi`	`hi`
`15:44.13`	`bi_fi`	`Thanatermesis, are you here?`
`15:44.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes`
`15:44.42`	`bi_fi`	`I saw a screenshot on elive website`
`15:44.55`	`bi_fi`	`how did you make gkrellm transparent?`
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`15:47.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`not is hard ;)`
`15:47.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`is a theme`
`15:48.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`$ apt-cache search gkrellm theme`
`15:48.03`	`bi_fi`	`ah`
`15:48.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`is called invisible i think... well.. try all the themes ;)`
`15:48.36`	`bi_fi`	`yep you're right`
`15:48.38`	`bi_fi`	`thx`
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`15:49.23`	`Siulfur`	`hi`
`15:49.26`	`Begasus`	`lo`
`15:50.07`	`Siulfur`	`=)`
`15:50.16`	`Siulfur`	`francais ?`
`15:51.11`	`bi_fi`	`lol looks ugly :(`
`15:51.18`	`Siulfur`	`: /`
`15:51.26`	`Begasus`	`german?`
`15:51.30`	`Begasus`	`dutch?`
`15:51.30`	`Begasus`	`:)`
`15:51.39`	`bi_fi`	`I'm flemish :)`
`15:51.44`	`felix`	`I'm klingon`
`15:51.46`	`Begasus`	`me to bi_fi!!`
`15:51.53`	`bi_fi`	`ah nice`
`15:52.00`	`Siulfur`	`flemish : /`
`15:52.02`	`Begasus`	`well .. from Limburg actualy :)`
`15:52.12`	`bi_fi`	`hehe`
`15:52.30`	`Begasus`	`not quit the same as the flanders ... :)`
`15:52.34`	`bi_fi`	`me: leuven`
`15:52.42`	`Begasus`	`ah nice`
`15:53.05`	`Siulfur`	`me Magny en Vexin ^^`
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`15:54.18`	`Begasus`	`nice to see that more peolple in Belgium are using OS's beside windows ;)`
`15:54.48`	`Siulfur`	`hoooo Belgium :)`
`15:54.53`	`bi_fi`	`yes :d`
`15:55.21`	`Siulfur`	`don't speak french ?`
`15:55.33`	`Begasus`	`jusqeu peux :)`
`15:55.45`	`bi_fi`	`indeed :)`
`15:55.49`	`Siulfur`	`laught`
`15:55.51`	`bi_fi`	`school-knowledge :d`
`15:55.57`	`Begasus`	`it's been to long and havn't had mutch practice :)`
`15:56.21`	`Begasus`	`and that has been a looooooooooooong while back for me bi_fi :)`
`15:56.22`	`Siulfur`	`il faut s y remettre :)`
`15:56.27`	`kender`	`hey Thanatermesis el sistema de upload es increiblemente lento ehh`
`15:56.29`	`bi_fi`	`ow :)`
`15:56.42`	`bi_fi`	`You use linux for a long time?`
`15:56.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`que estas subiendo kender ?`
`15:56.57`	`kender`	`pues mis pruevitas`
`15:56.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno, estas mirando el resultado en .org ?`
`15:57.03`	`kender`	`ya van cada vez mejor`
`15:57.05`	`Begasus`	`started way back in the ninethies`
`15:57.07`	`Siulfur`	`: /`
`15:57.12`	`bi_fi`	`oh :)`
`15:57.15`	`kender`	`si Thanatermesis`
`15:57.25`	`Begasus`	`but switched to BeOS in 2k :P`
`15:57.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`voy a subirte el tiempo de upload del .org...`
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`15:57.26`	`bi_fi`	`and now back :)`
`15:57.27`	`Begasus`	`hi rookmoot`
`15:57.38`	`kender`	`ok Thanatermesis`
`15:57.40`	`Begasus`	`nah .. still a (ZETA)BeOS user bi_fi :)`
`15:57.52`	`bi_fi`	`ah`
`15:57.53`	`Begasus`	`but still looking out for some new things :)`
`15:58.06`	`Begasus`	`did the dutch translation for ZETA :)`
`15:58.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`hecho kender`
`15:58.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`cada minuto uploadea`
`15:58.26`	`xlony`	`xD`
`15:58.29`	`kender`	`thanks`
`15:58.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`que pasó xlony ?`
`15:58.40`	`bi_fi`	`elive is the first distro where all my hardware works immediatly`
`15:58.45`	`xlony`	`no sé, :\|`
`15:59.00`	`kender`	`wop xlony`
`15:59.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`bi_fi, well.. try the new upload ;)`
`15:59.09`	`bi_fi`	`I'm only using linux like a few months`
`15:59.13`	`Begasus`	`I especialy like eLive for it's interface ...`
`15:59.15`	`bi_fi`	`so I'm still noob:)`
`15:59.22`	`Begasus`	`:)`
`15:59.46`	`xlony`	`yep kender`
`16:00.03`	`Begasus`	`no matter how long you are using a PC .. at the end you're still a n00b :)`
`16:00.11`	`bi_fi`	`I know`
`16:00.12`	`bi_fi`	`:d`
`16:00.30`	`Begasus`	`it takes a while to get from n00b into geek :D`
`16:00.47`	`kender`	`hehehe`
`16:01.41`	`Begasus`	`and feck ... a Belgium distro desirves some attention !! :P`
`16:01.57`	`Siulfur`	`hey WTF`
`16:02.46`	`bi_fi`	`Begasus, you also read that on distrowatch`
`16:02.50`	`bi_fi`	`?`
`16:03.03`	`Begasus`	`don't follow distrowatch bi_fi`
`16:03.19`	`bi_fi`	`are you sure it's belgian`
`16:03.24`	`Begasus`	`don't even have a link to it in my bookmarks`
`16:03.57`	`Begasus`	`whel Thanatermesis is doing the dev on it in Liege ... so that makes it kind of a Belgium distro ;)`
`16:04.36`	`bi_fi`	`ah didn't know thana wad belgian`
`16:04.41`	`bi_fi`	`*was`
`16:04.46`	`bi_fi`	`*actually is :)`
`16:04.55`	`Begasus`	`he is spanish afaik .. but lives in Liege`
`16:05.03`	`bi_fi`	`I see`
`16:05.52`	`Begasus`	`you're pretty new to linux then bi_fi?`
`16:05.58`	`bi_fi`	`yep`
`16:06.06`	`bi_fi`	`4months or something`
`16:06.09`	`Begasus`	`newbie then ;)`
`16:06.13`	`bi_fi`	`indeed`
`16:06.21`	`Begasus`	`how do you like it so far?`
`16:06.50`	`bi_fi`	`I switched completely when windows erased all my data (300 GB)`
`16:07.19`	`Begasus`	`I can imagen ... but the shift is mostly not without probs ...`
`16:07.24`	`bi_fi`	`I think it's more stable but more complicated for an average user`
`16:07.30`	`Begasus`	`indeed`
`16:07.41`	`Begasus`	`installing app's is not always that easy ...`
`16:07.54`	`bi_fi`	`but if something works , it keeps working :)`
`16:07.59`	`Begasus`	`;)`
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`16:08.33`	`bi_fi`	`debian has nice features for installing things with apt`
`16:08.47`	`Begasus`	`yes apt-get is great`
`16:09.04`	`Begasus`	`if you have the nescecarry mirror's added :)`
`16:09.06`	`Siulfur`	`hum`
`16:09.10`	`bi_fi`	`I don't understand why people say debian is for the "power user :)"`
`16:09.27`	`bi_fi`	`it's actually more user-friendly than some other distros`
`16:09.33`	`Begasus`	`try to run/use a 'pure' debian distro ;)`
`16:09.34`	`Siulfur`	`do you know if i can install linux with a old graphic card and change after ?`
`16:09.46`	`roxville`	`you can still be a power user :)`
`16:09.51`	`bi_fi`	`hehe :)`
`16:09.53`	`Begasus`	`hehe roxville :)`
`16:10.19`	`Siulfur`	`?`
`16:10.21`	`Begasus`	`switch video card afterwards .. look on vendor hp and download linux driver?`
`16:10.35`	`roxville`	`apt-get is very powerful... in command line... there's so much you can do that it's amazing... and i don't know a 10th of it`
`16:10.40`	`Siulfur`	`hum`
`16:10.50`	`Begasus`	`indeed roxville`
`16:11.03`	`Begasus`	`but for the desktop user it's not always that clear`
`16:11.08`	`bi_fi`	`you can download the manual from the website :)`
`16:11.31`	`Begasus`	`:P`
`16:11.34`	`Mutacion_`	`bf what time it its?`
`16:11.38`	`Mutacion_`	`bi_fi,`
`16:11.43`	`bi_fi`	`yes`
`16:11.47`	`roxville`	`that is correct, not always clear... it's a whole new thing to learn...`
`16:11.59`	`Begasus`	`ok .. must cut down ..`
`16:12.03`	`Begasus`	`visite in the house ;)`
`16:12.06`	`Begasus`	`cya'll later`
`16:12.07`	`roxville`	`and everybody is not interested in learning new things... not even linux ppl`
`16:12.08`	`bi_fi`	`ah k :)`
`16:12.10`	`bi_fi`	`bye`
`16:12.15`	`roxville`	`bye Begasus`
`16:12.21`	`Begasus_bbl`	`cu`
`16:12.43`	`Mutacion_`	`rox rox!!`
`16:12.46`	`Mutacion_`	`WHAT TIME IT IS??`
`16:13.01`	`bi_fi`	`18.16 (in belgium )`
`16:13.08`	`xlony`	`18.13 in spain`
`16:13.17`	`Mutacion_`	`wrogn answer bi_fi and u too xlony`
`16:13.17`	`Mutacion_`	`its... its..`
`16:13.18`	`xlony`	`:]`
`16:13.20`	`Mutacion_`	`apt time-to`
`16:13.29`	`apt`	`methinks time-to is its HAMBRITA TIME!!!`
`16:13.29`	`Siulfur`	`18:11`
`16:13.35`	`xlony`	`hambrita xD`
`16:13.36`	`Mutacion_`	`yeah!! hambrita time xD lol`
`16:13.41`	`bi_fi`	`lol`
`16:13.47`	`xlony`	`what is hambrita?`
`16:13.53`	`bi_fi`	`dunno`
`16:13.54`	`Mutacion_`	`apt hambrita`
`16:13.57`	`apt`	`extra, extra, read all about it, hambrita is to be hungry`
`16:13.57`	`bi_fi`	`:d`
`16:14.03`	`xlony`	`:)`
`16:14.04`	`Mutacion_`	`xD lol`
`16:14.05`	`bi_fi`	`ah lol`
`16:14.22`	`roxville`	`no, hambrita is something you eat`
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`16:14.31`	`bi_fi`	`no that's a ham-burge :)`
`16:14.37`	`roxville`	`LOL`
`16:14.58`	`roxville`	`yeah, i don't think it jas anything to do with ham...`
`16:15.06`	`roxville`	`jas = has`
`16:15.09`	`Mutacion_`	`hahah xD`
`16:15.10`	`bi_fi`	`is it possible to learn apt new words?`
`16:15.13`	`Mutacion_`	`brb.. hambrita is calling me`
`16:15.22`	`roxville`	`ok Mutacion_ :)`
`16:15.35`	`bi_fi`	`apt, learn`
`16:15.38`	`apt`	`methinks learn is the opposite of not learn, or something you do every day, apparently.`
`16:15.38`	`bi_fi`	`:)`
`16:15.48`	`kender`	`hey roxville ;-)`
`16:16.09`	`roxville`	`hey kender how are you?`
`16:16.18`	`kender`	`fine :)`
`16:16.23`	`kender`	`what about you?`
`16:16.53`	`kender`	`are you improving your spanish?`
`16:17.01`	`roxville`	`pretty good! not sure if it's gonna rain or not... i wanted to take my daughter out for a bit... we'll see :)`
`16:17.09`	`pale_horse`	`hey rox`
`16:17.11`	`pale_horse`	`:)`
`16:17.19`	`roxville`	`lol, no, not improving much...`
`16:17.26`	`roxville`	`hey pale_horse :)`
`16:17.31`	`pale_horse`	`:D`
`16:17.55`	`roxville`	`hehe, that's great! what happened?`
`16:18.09`	`pale_horse`	`apt-get upgrade-dist was fine`
`16:18.19`	`pales_rider`	`o/`
`16:18.20`	`roxville`	`awesome`
`16:18.24`	`pale_horse`	`app-get -install emodules was fine`
`16:18.29`	`pale_horse`	`wlan working`
`16:18.32`	`pale_horse`	`wired working`
`16:18.57`	`roxville`	`yeah!`
`16:19.01`	`roxville`	`hiya pales_rider`
`16:19.04`	`roxville`	`:)`
`16:19.06`	`pales_rider`	`hi`
`16:19.50`	`pales_rider`	`how are you rox?`
`16:19.52`	`pale_horse`	`hey you home already ?`
`16:20.08`	`pales_rider`	`ummm can i talk to you please`
`16:24.36`	`Siulfur`	`bye all`
`16:24.43`	`kender`	`bye Siulfur`
`16:24.48`	`Siulfur`	`=)`
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`16:27.25`	`kender`	`ese sinplomo`
`16:28.39`	`roxville`	`pales_rider, me or pale_horse ?`
`16:28.48`	`pale_horse`	`me`
`16:29.28`	`kender`	`Thanatermesis, como se borra una pagina?`
`16:29.36`	`kender`	`por ejemplo..phpkender`
`16:29.55`	`kender`	`es que ahora se niega a cambiarme la url de la pagina envebida`
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`16:34.06`	`roxville`	`ok... just making sure :)`
`16:34.53`	`pale_horse`	`:)`
`16:36.53`	`Thanashiba`	`kender, hombre, te e dado permiso para editar esa pagina, si la borras... mal vamos xD`
`16:36.59`	`Thanashiba`	`por cierto, llamame a este nick`
`16:37.02`	`kender`	`xDD`
`16:37.04`	`kender`	`ok`
`16:37.50`	`Thanashiba`	`que dices que te pasa que ?`
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`16:38.06`	`kender`	`que no me quiere cambiar el nombre de la pagina embebida`
`16:38.14`	`kender`	`http://elivecd.org/gb/phpkender/`
`16:38.17`	`kender`	`y me da error`
`16:38.18`	`kender`	`:S`
`16:40.38`	`kender`	`jur`
`16:41.34`	`pales_rider`	`rox..sorry to interupt your conversation with charley`
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`16:43.14`	`roxville`	`pales_rider, no no, not at all! no problem :) we had just said hi`
`16:44.07`	`kender`	`y bien Thanashiba, algo nuevo?`
`16:44.08`	`kender`	`xD`
`16:44.13`	`pales_rider`	`my 18 year old will be the death of me yet...lol`
`16:44.49`	`roxville`	`oh lord... is that what i have to look fwd to?`
`16:45.06`	`Thanashiba`	`kender, si, nueva iso`
`16:45.11`	`kender`	`jajaja`
`16:45.15`	`pales_rider`	`you bet`
`16:45.16`	`kender`	`I love you too Thanashiba`
`16:45.17`	`kender`	`xD`
`16:45.18`	`Thanashiba`	`NEW ISOOOOOOOOO !!! Enjoy it !`
`16:45.31`	`Thanashiba`	`kender, acabas de poner celosa a mi novia`
`16:45.37`	`roxville`	`my 3 1/2 yr old will be the death of ME!`
`16:45.40`	`Thanashiba`	`me esta preguntando si me e vuelto maricon xD`
`16:46.02`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, saludala de mi parte`
`16:46.02`	`kender`	`xD`
`16:46.29`	`pales_rider`	`my daughter makes me crazy....hey i liked 3 1/2...its from 13 up thats really tough`
`16:47.41`	`Thanashiba`	`kender, a mi me parece funcionar... me pide email y "add"`
`16:47.48`	`kender`	`way`
`16:47.49`	`kender`	`xDD`
`16:47.54`	`kender`	`ahora mete tu mail`
`16:48.00`	`kender`	`y miras tu bandeja de entrada`
`16:48.09`	`Thanashiba`	`incluso si no quiero spam ? :/`
`16:48.10`	`Thanashiba`	`xD`
`16:48.14`	`Thanashiba`	`bueno va... lo meteré...`
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`16:48.20`	`kender`	`jajaja`
`16:48.29`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, de momento no añade nada`
`16:48.34`	`kender`	`solo te manda el mail`
`16:48.35`	`kender`	`jeje`
`16:48.43`	`kender`	`no he hecho la lista todavia`
`16:48.56`	`kender`	`tienes que darme acceso a la BD`
`16:49.01`	`kender`	`que quiero hacerlo bien`
`16:49.01`	`kender`	`xD`
`16:49.20`	`kender`	`porque...visto que acaba de salir la nueva ahora...no hay prisa`
`16:49.21`	`kender`	`xD`
`16:49.30`	`Thanashiba`	`perfecto kender, tengo un email :)`
`16:49.33`	`kender`	`lo tendremos listo para la siguiente version`
`16:49.37`	`Thanashiba`	`quien lo manda ? elivecd.org ?`
`16:49.38`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, way`
`16:49.44`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, el que tu quieras`
`16:49.51`	`kender`	`mail($mail,subject,body,"From: notification@elivecd.org");`
`16:49.56`	`kender`	`que quieres que ponga?`
`16:49.57`	`kender`	`xDD`
`16:50.12`	`Thanashiba`	`<kender> porque...visto que acaba de salir la nueva ahora...no hay prisa`
`16:50.15`	`Thanashiba`	`al contrario!`
`16:50.15`	`roxville`	`hi cornelius[cz] :)`
`16:50.19`	`kender`	`subject y bady son dos defines...para que los cambies como quieras`
`16:50.20`	`cornelius[cz]`	`hi guys`
`16:50.20`	`Thanashiba`	`ahora viene la ola de gente`
`16:50.27`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, jajaja`
`16:50.27`	`Thanashiba`	`asi que habra gente que se van a subscribir ;)`
`16:50.28`	`roxville`	`cornelius[cz], #art?`
`16:50.49`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, bueno, pero dejame hacerlo con DB anda`
`16:50.49`	`kender`	`xDD`
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`16:51.49`	`Thanashiba`	`kender, y que bd vas a utilizar ? es seguro ? nadie la podrá leer ?`
`16:51.49`	`roxville`	`there's a new test iso of 0.5 out... the last before the OFFICIAL test iso`
`16:52.07`	`xlony`	`.--. .. -. --.`
`16:52.14`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, pues tu tienes instalado Mysql no?`
`16:52.24`	`roxville`	`please download and report bugs a.s.a.p.`
`16:52.26`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, lo podra leer el root del sistema`
`16:52.30`	`xlony`	`.--. --- -. --.`
`16:52.42`	`kender`	`y el user que tenga acceso a esa base de datos`
`16:52.47`	`kender`	`xlony, morse?`
`16:52.51`	`xlony`	`:]`
`16:52.59`	`felix`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:52.59`	`felix`	`Download ISOs:`
`16:52.59`	`felix`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:53.00`	`felix`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:53.02`	`felix`	`?`
`16:53.07`	`felix`	`when can i download the iso?`
`16:53.31`	`xlony`	`meted un puto torrent`
`16:53.38`	`xlony`	`no seáis gañanes xD`
`16:53.46`	`felix`	`xlony: puede ser un torrent bien macho y viril?`
`16:53.49`	`kender`	`si Thanashiba haz un torrent ana`
`16:53.52`	`kender`	`*anda`
`16:54.01`	`Thanashiba`	`kender, bien, ahora 2 preguntas... puedes hacer que utilize directamente el feed.xml (rss fuente) para que envie los emails automaticamente ?`
`16:54.12`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, creo que si ;-)`
`16:54.18`	`kender`	`tengo que mirarlo, pero creo que si`
`16:54.19`	`Thanashiba`	`los torrents son para las releases oficiales de "stables" mejor...`
`16:54.26`	`xlony`	`qué más da Thanashiba`
`16:54.29`	`xlony`	`...`
`16:54.32`	`Thanashiba`	`kender, bien, es que estaria bien aqui hacer una cosa...`
`16:54.41`	`Thanashiba`	`xlony, perdida de tiempo y de red`
`16:54.43`	`kender`	`primero quiero montar todo, y luego hacer las pequeñeces de feeds y eso`
`16:54.48`	`Thanashiba`	`sobretodo de tiempo`
`16:54.50`	`kender`	`dime Thanashiba`
`16:54.54`	`xlony`	`coño`
`16:55.00`	`xlony`	`lo mismo que vamos a perder bajándolo de DC`
`16:55.00`	`Thanashiba`	`las developement releases son releases rapidas para que la gente laspille y las pruebe rapido`
`16:55.04`	`xlony`	`pudiéndolo bajar de torrent`
`16:55.07`	`xlony`	`compartiendo...`
`16:55.23`	`Thanashiba`	`y qu epasa con toda la gente que "llegan tarde" ? se la bajan a medias ?`
`16:56.54`	`felix`	`Thanashiba: okok`
`16:56.57`	`Thanashiba`	`y luego hay que esperar mucho mas para tener la iso bajada a tu maquina y tal`
`16:57.03`	`Thanashiba`	`y quien hace de seeder xlony ?`
`16:57.10`	`Thanashiba`	`porque mi linea tiene un upload patetico`
`16:58.44`	`kender`	`y bien , Thanashiba que me decias de hacer?`
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`16:59.26`	`xlony`	`Thanashiba: el caso es`
`16:59.32`	`xlony`	`tener a varios con buena conxe de aquí`
`16:59.33`	`xlony`	`y ya está`
`16:59.36`	`xlony`	`vamos compartiendo entre todos`
`16:59.40`	`Thanashiba`	`kender, unos botones cuando pongas tu email cono opciones de tipo "solo notificarme de las releases" o "notificarme de todas las noticias" etc`
`16:59.41`	`xlony`	`yo subo a 25-30k`
`16:59.50`	`xlony`	`teniendo en cuetna que todos andamos opr ahí`
`16:59.52`	`xlony`	`peus tendremos...`
`17:00.01`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, bien, es factible`
`17:00.06`	`xlony`	`unos 1020k de subida`
`17:00.07`	`xlony`	`xD`
`17:00.15`	`Thanashiba`	`xlony, las development versions son para probar "al momento", echale un dia entre todo...`
`17:00.47`	`kender`	`yo subo 60-70`
`17:00.56`	`kender`	`pero no dejo mi pc encendido siempre`
`17:01.10`	`Thanashiba`	`una vez hay una nueva develpment version, la actual se borra`
`17:01.19`	`Thanashiba`	`la idea no es que se quede por internet una release de pruebas...`
`17:01.52`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, tienes Mysql instalado o no?`
`17:01.59`	`xlony`	`también`
`17:02.03`	`Thanashiba`	`si kender`
`17:02.18`	`Thanashiba`	`pero no conozco ningun pass ni nada`
`17:02.24`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, pues me creas un user, que tanga acceso a una base de datos que le crees a el`
`17:02.30`	`kender`	`ahh`
`17:02.35`	`Thanashiba`	`como digo xlony es basicamente perder tiempo y linea`
`17:02.38`	`kender`	`claro que la maquina no es tuya`
`17:02.48`	`xlony`	`ya ya Thanashiba`
`17:02.49`	`Thanashiba`	`para las releases "stables" si que habran torrents... pero no para las development`
`17:03.03`	`xlony`	`tenéis tracker propio?`
`17:03.11`	`Thanashiba`	`no`
`17:03.12`	`xlony`	`o lo colgáis por ahí`
`17:03.16`	`xlony`	`._.`
`17:03.18`	`Thanashiba`	`Gwildor, es quien se encargar de hacer los torrents`
`17:03.24`	`kender`	`pues no se, habla con el dueño. y si eso me dais acceso a la BD para que pueda enredar`
`17:03.25`	`Thanashiba`	`no hay ningun server de torrents o como se diga`
`17:04.23`	`xlony`	`kender: pa qué quieres mysql`
`17:04.45`	`kender`	`xlony, para un notificador via mail que estamos montando`
`17:04.50`	`Thanashiba`	`para no hacer un "echo $email >> lista.txt" xD`
`17:04.54`	`kender`	`para tener un sitio donde guardar los mails`
`17:05.17`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, xDDD de esa forma no se podria hacer lo que has dicho antes de elegir de lo que quieres que se te informe`
`17:05.17`	`kender`	`xD`
`17:05.49`	`Thanashiba`	`claro que si hombre, con sus comandos apropiados si, yo te hago lo que quieras en bases de datos en modo texto puro ;)`
`17:05.57`	`kender`	`xDDD`
`17:06.25`	`kender`	`no me mola nada la idea de usar system() Thanashiba , es muy inseguro...y seguramente este desactivado en el php.ini`
`17:06.29`	`kender`	`seria lo mas sensato`
`17:06.30`	`kender`	`:P`
`17:06.46`	`Thanashiba`	`xD`
`17:07.05`	`xlony`	`que risiones`
`17:07.11`	`xlony`	`por qué no creáis un cron`
`17:07.11`	`xlony`	`xD`
`17:07.20`	`kender`	`xlony, otro que tal baila`
`17:07.21`	`kender`	`xDDDD`
`17:07.31`	`xlony`	`es la moda kender`
`17:07.33`	`xlony`	`modernízate`
`17:07.35`	`kender`	`que las cosas se hacen bien o no se hacen`
`17:07.35`	`kender`	`xDD`
`17:07.42`	`kender`	`xlony, juas`
`17:07.43`	`kender`	`xDD`
`17:07.50`	`xlony`	`:P`
`17:07.51`	`Thanashiba`	`el cron esta de moda ? que viene de las epocas de unix antiguo ? xD`
`17:07.57`	`wasynyt`	`good afternoon everyone`
`17:07.58`	`kender`	`xDDD`
`17:08.02`	`kender`	`welcome wasynyt`
`17:08.07`	`Thanashiba`	`wasynyt, new iso !!!!`
`17:08.20`	`Thanashiba`	`wasynyt, do you like to translate the installer in to finish ?`
`17:08.39`	`kender`	`hey Thanashiba si eso, puedo traducirla a Euskera`
`17:08.46`	`kender`	`cuando tenga mas tiempo`
`17:08.48`	`kender`	`despues de hacer esto`
`17:08.49`	`kender`	`xDD`
`17:09.09`	`xlony`	`eres un ikurriño`
`17:09.16`	`wasynyt`	`Thanashiba, dunno yet, link ?`
`17:09.24`	`kender`	`xlony, no no...yo soy de bilbao XDDDDDDD`
`17:09.35`	`kender`	`na , xlony es coña ehh`
`17:09.36`	`kender`	`xD`
`17:09.48`	`xlony`	`xD`
`17:10.18`	`wasynyt`	`Thanashiba, link to the new iso ?`
`17:10.43`	`Thanashiba`	`wasynyt, elive site, "development" downloads section`
`17:10.48`	`wasynyt`	`hmm k`
`17:11.10`	`Mutacion_`	`yo a espaniol mexico xD`
`17:11.16`	`kender`	`Mutacion_, jajaj`
`17:11.19`	`Thanashiba`	`well.. is uploading, make a look to the Changelog and tell me if you know anything to i forget, changelog of 0.4.2 -> actual 0.5 test`
`17:11.30`	`Mutacion_`	`jojooj kender xD`
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`17:11.53`	`Thanashiba`	`kender, ok, ya me avisaras si quieres, aunque habria que mirar primero si el sistema funciona en euskera`
`17:12.08`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, en principio no tiene porque no ;-)`
`17:12.20`	`wasynyt`	`"`
`17:12.20`	`wasynyt`	`Download ISOs:`
`17:12.20`	`wasynyt`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:12.20`	`wasynyt`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:12.20`	`kender`	`esta todo preparado para ello`
`17:12.29`	`kender`	`yes wasynyt , is uploading yet`
`17:12.45`	`wasynyt`	`:(`
`17:12.56`	`wasynyt`	`then i cant download it`
`17:13.13`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, pues cuando arregles lo de la DB me avisas..para seguir con esto, ok?`
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`17:15.20`	`Thanashiba`	`wasynyt, well, you need to look in the mirrors every (hour?) and look if any of those mirrors has finalized to upload the iso... anyways tell me, i need to know what is the mirror to upload "the first" ;)`
`17:15.41`	`Thanashiba`	`wasynyt, trac page, button search: "mirrors", section "new rsync mirrors"`
`17:15.54`	`Thanashiba`	`wasynyt, do you like to translate the installer in to finish ?`
`17:16.34`	`wasynyt`	`hmm`
`17:16.34`	`roxville`	`i have to take my daughter out now... she's going nuts`
`17:16.48`	`roxville`	`lol wasynyt ... it's a big task!`
`17:16.51`	`wasynyt`	`i dont know if i have the time to do it yet...`
`17:18.38`	`roxville`	`Thanashiba, it is fun to have... but i think not necessary... french, english and spanish covers most of the world`
`17:20.29`	`wasynyt`	`roxville, thats true`
`17:20.43`	`wasynyt`	`but werent you going out ?`
`17:20.52`	`roxville`	`i am!`
`17:21.01`	`roxville`	`don't push me...`
`17:21.13`	`wasynyt`	`i am not... but your daughter is :D`
`17:21.36`	`roxville`	`yep... she sure is :)`
`17:21.37`	`xlony`	`está usted señora, demasiado gorda, para irse a la cama.`
`17:22.00`	`kender`	`xlony, ^^`
`17:22.10`	`Thanashiba`	`well roxville, the language is set automatically... if you select finish for example, you have it on english (because finish not exists)`
`17:22.24`	`Thanashiba`	`but maybe you are a finish to know spanish and no english :)`
`17:22.32`	`Thanashiba`	`this is a problem.. and not very easy to solve`
`17:22.53`	`roxville`	`yeah, that's true...`
`17:23.05`	`wasynyt`	`Thanashiba, i can look at it when i get that iso... and then say if i can do it or not`
`17:23.15`	`Thanashiba`	`lol`
`17:23.22`	`roxville`	`hehe`
`17:23.25`	`Thanashiba`	`apt x es en chantaje`
`17:23.50`	`kender`	`jur`
`17:23.50`	`wasynyt`	`?`
`17:23.58`	`Thanashiba`	`blackmail ? o_O`
`17:24.00`	`Thanashiba`	`apt, blackmail`
`17:24.17`	`apt`	`Highly configurable SMTP mail filter. URL: http://www.jsm-net.demon.co.uk/blackmail/`
`17:24.18`	`roxville`	`yes`
`17:24.18`	`kender`	`jaus`
`17:24.19`	`Thanashiba`	`wasynyt, this is a blackmail ? :) lol`
`17:24.19`	`roxville`	`lol wasynyt you are blackmailing thana...`
`17:24.25`	`kender`	`apt, xDDDDDDDDDDD`
`17:24.33`	`Thanashiba`	`apt, yay`
`17:24.37`	`apt`	`Yipee!`
`17:24.37`	`wasynyt`	`:S`
`17:24.37`	`roxville`	`but the truth is, wasynyt has not been able to boot elive yet...`
`17:24.45`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`17:24.49`	`Thanashiba`	`apt, yo!`
`17:24.55`	`apt`	`Yo wazzaaaap my brotha?!`
`17:25.06`	`xlony`	`smtp filter?`
`17:25.10`	`Thanashiba`	`wasynyt, you have found the new mirrors ?`
`17:26.42`	`Thanashiba`	`<Thanashiba> wasynyt, trac page, button search: "mirrors", section "new rsync mirrors"`
`17:27.57`	`wasynyt`	`hmm lets see`
`17:28.09`	`Thanashiba`	`<Thanashiba> wasynyt, well, you need to look in the mirrors every (hour?) and look if any of those mirrors has finalized to upload the iso... anyways tell me, i need to know what is the mirror to upload "the first" ;)`
`17:28.10`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, no mirrors uploaded`
`17:28.42`	`Thanashiba`	`kender, yes, are uploading... anyways if you* check the mirrors, tell me when one has the iso, i need to know the first to upload`
`17:28.55`	`kender`	`ok`
`17:29.59`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, what about the DB or whatever...`
`17:34.01`	`Thanashiba`	`kender, estoy hablando de ello.. parece que si que puedes utilizar la misma cuenta que el wiki y tal, pero habria que hacer un backup... sabes como se hace un backup ?`
`17:34.14`	`kender`	`si`
`17:34.25`	`kender`	`mysqldump`
`17:34.28`	`kender`	`con eso serviria`
`17:36.24`	`Thanashiba`	`voy a probar pues`
`17:36.51`	`kender`	`bien`
`17:37.31`	`Thanashiba`	`como listo las cosas para ver que se puede backupear ?`
`17:37.37`	`kender`	`de todas formas...hacer una cuenta nueva y otra DB dandole a esa cuenta nueva solo permisos para esa DB no es muy complicado ehh`
`17:37.53`	`Thanashiba`	`yo es que no tengo ni idea de mysql ;)`
`17:37.57`	`kender`	`tendrias que logearte con el mysql_client`
`17:37.59`	`Thanashiba`	`pero creo que tu me vas a decir como ;)`
`17:38.16`	`kender`	`y luego`
`17:38.21`	`kender`	`SHOW DATABASES;`
`17:38.26`	`kender`	`el ; es importante ehh`
`17:38.27`	`kender`	`xD`
`17:38.49`	`kender`	`luego si quieres ver lo que hay dentro..USE NOMBRE_DE_LA_DB;`
`17:38.58`	`Thanashiba`	`pera, dame un segundo, que tengo el portatil un poco lento ahora`
`17:39.04`	`kender`	`oki, tanquilo`
`17:39.15`	`xlony`	`vivo esperando a cobrar, para gastarme todas las pelas`
`17:39.21`	`xlony`	`vivo esperando a cobrar, para agarrarme una borrachera`
`17:39.21`	`xlony`	`xd`
`17:39.29`	`kender`	`xlony, mal mal mal`
`17:39.30`	`kender`	`xDD`
`17:39.59`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, pero como te digo...creo que seria mas comodo, CREATE NUEVA_DB;`
`17:40.12`	`kender`	`y luego con GRANT crear el user con sus permisos`
`17:40.17`	`Thanashiba`	`a ver kender, como dices que listeo las cosas que tengo disponisbles para backupear ?`
`17:40.30`	`kender`	`SHOW DATABASES;`
`17:40.45`	`Thanashiba`	`donde me logueo ?`
`17:40.49`	`kender`	`xDD`
`17:40.54`	`Thanashiba`	`mysql_client no tengo`
`17:40.59`	`kender`	`mysql_client -u root -p`
`17:41.08`	`kender`	`pues algo parecido deverias tener`
`17:41.19`	`kender`	`espera`
`17:41.19`	`Thanashiba`	`mysqladmin, access....`
`17:41.20`	`kender`	`xDD`
`17:41.33`	`kender`	`estas por ssh en el server o como?`
`17:41.45`	`Thanashiba`	`dump, import...`
`17:41.46`	`Thanashiba`	`si`
`17:42.01`	`kender`	`pues eso...mysql_client`
`17:42.07`	`Thanashiba`	`hotcopy, manager*, show...`
`17:42.18`	`Thanashiba`	`no tengo el mysql_client xD`
`17:42.33`	`kender`	`juas`
`17:42.38`	`Thanashiba`	`tengo todos esos que te digo (con la palabra mysql delante de todos)`
`17:42.45`	`kender`	`ajam`
`17:43.20`	`kender`	`p mysql-client - mysql database client binaries`
`17:43.23`	`kender`	`instala este paquete anda`
`17:43.24`	`kender`	`xDD`
`17:43.29`	`kender`	`hay otras formas y eso`
`17:43.38`	`kender`	`pero paso de liarme con cosas que no conozco`
`17:44.07`	`Thanashiba`	`no puedo instalar nada`
`17:44.11`	`Thanashiba`	`no tengo acceso de root ;)`
`17:44.13`	`kender`	`jajaj`
`17:44.19`	`kender`	`pues instalaloo en tu pc`
`17:44.21`	`kender`	`;-)`
`17:44.30`	`Thanashiba`	`en mi pc ? mmmh`
`17:44.33`	`Thanashiba`	`si tu lo dices...`
`17:44.36`	`kender`	`;-)`
`17:44.44`	`kender`	`puedes acceder remotamente`
`17:44.47`	`kender`	`aunque..puede que no`
`17:44.48`	`kender`	`xDD`
`17:44.57`	`kender`	`depende como lo tenga configurado tu amigo`
`17:44.58`	`kender`	`xDD`
`17:45.15`	`kender`	`si solo se pueden realizar conexiones desde localhost..entonces no`
`17:45.23`	`kender`	`si el puerto esta abierto para todos...entonces si`
`17:45.24`	`Thanashiba`	`pues no se como lo tendrá...`
`17:45.38`	`Thanashiba`	`ni idea, ahora probamos`
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`17:45.43`	`Thanashiba`	`me voy a la maquina grande`
`17:45.46`	`kender`	`espera`
`17:45.47`	`kender`	`xDDDD`
`17:45.50`	`kender`	`espera`
`17:45.52`	`kender`	`xD`
`17:46.02`	`kender`	`tienes un comando que es mysql solo?`
`17:46.07`	`kender`	`en el ssh digo`
`17:46.07`	`kender`	`xD`
`17:47.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`si`
`17:47.09`	`kender`	`pues rula con ese`
`17:47.10`	`kender`	`;-)`
`17:47.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno, vamos a un privado mejor ;)`
`17:47.21`	`kender`	`mysql -u tuuser -p`
`17:47.25`	`kender`	`yep`
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`17:54.39`	`rustey`	`btw guys, just wanted to say elive rocks, best livecd i've used in ages`
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`17:58.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`:D`
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`18:20.55`	`Elive_user54`	`hi`
`18:21.09`	`wasynyt`	`good evening Elive_user54`
`18:21.44`	`Elive_user54`	`I am using livecd-modus. Nice!`
`18:22.07`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:22.26`	`Mutacion_`	`^^`
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`18:25.12`	`Mutacion_`	`how can i identify mi niq..?`
`18:25.33`	`kender`	`/msg nickserv identify password`
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`18:26.35`	`quidam-`	`Thanatermesis, oe, vengo llegando de viaje xD`
`18:26.58`	`quidam-`	`cruce todo el paramo :S`
`18:27.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`18:27.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`llegas mareado ? ;)`
`18:27.18`	`Elive_user54`	`Distrowatch says Elive has Belgian 'roots'. Does anybody know which roots?`
`18:27.40`	`quidam-`	`seeeeeeeeeeeee, y el estomago hecho m"#$%& xDDDD`
`18:27.58`	`quidam-`	`no provoca ni comer, aunque tengo ganas de comer pizza xD`
`18:28.10`	`Mutacion_`	`como le qito a alguien mi niq :@`
`18:28.20`	`Mutacion_`	`alguien ta usurpando mi niq..!!`
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`18:28.41`	`Elive_user54`	`I am not used to English conversation, nor Spanish. Is there a dutch speaking guest?`
`18:28.47`	`quidam-`	`Mutacion_, lo tienes registrado?`
`18:28.55`	`Mutacion_`	`sips..`
`18:29.12`	`quidam-`	`Mutacion_, /msg nickserv ghost nick password`
`18:29.49`	`quidam-`	`Elive_user54, I speak spanish ;)`
`18:29.56`	`Thanashiba`	`h`
`18:30.05`	`Mutacion_`	`mmm..`
`18:30.39`	`Mutacion`	`taran xD`
`18:31.32`	`quidam-`	`Mutacion, DE NADA, jodio malagradecido`
`18:31.37`	`quidam-`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`18:31.40`	`Mutacion`	`hahaha`
`18:31.47`	`Mutacion`	`perate.. taban viendo si si jalaba!!`
`18:31.50`	`Mutacion`	`ora qe si jala :P`
`18:31.55`	`Mutacion`	`asiiash ghahaha`
`18:32.40`	`quidam-`	`Thanatermesis, tio, lo unico que vi bueno entre tantas curvas fue una tia que estaba a 4000 Mts de altura en pantaloncillos cortos y le estaban sacando fotos :P`
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`18:32.49`	`Elive_user54`	`hello quidam- thanks for reaction. Sorry, spanish, i can't. Looking for dutch. Greetz.`
`18:32.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDD`
`18:33.18`	`quidam-`	`coño que estaba haciendo un frio de puta madre alla arriba`
`18:33.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user54, on this channel we speak english also`
`18:33.28`	`quidam-`	`y ella en pantaloncillos :D`
`18:33.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`<Elive_user54> Distrowatch says Elive has Belgian 'roots'. Does anybody know which roots?`
`18:33.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`roots ? what is that ?`
`18:33.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt, roots`
`18:34.05`	`wasynyt`	`to come from somewhere`
`18:34.14`	`quidam-`	`maybe your new name is "thana-roots" xDDDDDD`
`18:34.23`	`Mutacion`	`hahahhahaa`
`18:34.36`	`kender`	`Thanatermesis, raices..`
`18:34.47`	`Mutacion`	`thana, distrowatch dice qe Elive tieneraices belgicas`
`18:34.49`	`Mutacion`	`andale kender`
`18:34.53`	`kender`	`hehehe`
`18:34.55`	`Mutacion`	`oye w, kender y tu de donde eres?`
`18:35.02`	`Mutacion`	`espania`
`18:35.02`	`kender`	`Mutacion, de españa`
`18:35.04`	`kender`	`del norte`
`18:35.10`	`Mutacion`	`yo tmb soy del norte`
`18:35.29`	`quidam-`	`Mutacion, pss eso de raices belgas no se lo cree ni Thanatermesis xDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`18:35.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`que mas da belgica españa... yo soy un equisiano coño`
`18:35.40`	`Mutacion`	`orgulloso de ser del norte.. del mero san lusiito.. pq de ahi es monterrey!!! ..la la la la la... <-jijiji cancion mexicana del norte xD`
`18:35.41`	`kender`	`Mutacion, pero de mexico no?`
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`18:35.48`	`quidam-`	`que elive es mas española que el jamon cerrano xDDDDDDD`
`18:35.52`	`Mutacion`	`qe es equisiano?`
`18:35.53`	`kender`	`Thanashiba, esquisiano?`
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`18:36.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`equisiano es alguien que no se considera de ninguna parte`
`18:37.04`	`quidam-`	`¬¬`
`18:37.17`	`quidam-`	`mientes xDDDDD`
`18:37.32`	`kender`	`Thanatermesis, mola`
`18:37.33`	`kender`	`jeje`
`18:37.53`	`Mutacion`	`thana tu eres extranjero :P entonces jiji`
`18:38.23`	`quidam-`	`esquisiano viene de esquicio lo cual es un primer esbozo de un plano xDDDDDD`
`18:38.29`	`quidam-`	`jodio mentiroso¡ xDDDDDDD`
`18:39.38`	`quidam-`	`xP`
`18:39.45`	`Mutacion`	`a ver.. la photo! la photo`
`18:40.10`	`Elive_user54`	`Excuses, but on distrowatch.com Elive is told Origin Belgian. So this isn't ok?`
`18:40.15`	`kender`	`yo tambien tengo uno de peluche`
`18:40.16`	`kender`	`xDD`
`18:40.28`	`kender`	`mas bonito que el vuestrooo`
`18:40.31`	`kender`	`xDD`
`18:41.02`	`quidam-`	`kender, ¬¬`
`18:41.05`	`kender`	`quidam-, a dicho equisiano`
`18:41.06`	`kender`	`xD`
`18:41.10`	`wasynyt`	`Thanatermesis, were were you from ?`
`18:41.23`	`kender`	`wasynyt, spain I think`
`18:41.27`	`kender`	`he is away`
`18:41.30`	`quidam-`	`kender, sigue apuntando a lo mismo`
`18:41.31`	`quidam-`	`xDDD`
`18:41.35`	`quidam-`	`GOOGLE NO MIENTE¡`
`18:41.38`	`quidam-`	`xDDDDD`
`18:41.39`	`wasynyt`	`ahh`
`18:41.39`	`kender`	`quidam-, jojo que no dice`
`18:41.40`	`kender`	`xDD`
`18:42.04`	`wasynyt`	`thats you ansver Elive_user54... Thana is the main dev and comes from spain`
`18:43.30`	`Elive_user54`	`allright, they must change the info then at distrowatch`
`18:43.32`	`Mutacion`	`and luvs tacos xD`
`18:43.57`	`quidam-`	`Mutacion, jodio, me dejas sin trabajo ¬¬`
`18:44.22`	`Mutacion`	`haha.. consiguete otro puesto xD`
`18:44.44`	`Mutacion`	`yo aqi soy el qe desiquilibra el canal xD hahaha y los hace reir un poco haha`
`18:45.01`	`quidam-`	`pss tendre que ser el fan de thana xDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`18:45.08`	`Mutacion`	`hahahha`
`18:45.24`	`Mutacion`	`y la photo del tux???`
`18:45.31`	`quidam-`	`Mutacion, despues`
`18:45.36`	`Mutacion`	`buuh`
`18:45.44`	`quidam-`	`no quiero vaciar la cam xDDDDDD`
`18:45.47`	`quidam-`	`tengo mucha flojera`
`18:45.49`	`quidam-`	`y sueño`
`18:45.49`	`quidam-`	`xD`
`18:45.58`	`Mutacion`	`yto tmb`
`18:46.01`	`Mutacion`	`chignos de suenio`
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`18:52.10`	`kender`	`see you later`
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`19:03.42`	`Elive_user54`	`Hello`
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`19:04.19`	`coyote10`	`se Thanashiba andas en una toshiba o ke ondas`
`19:04.39`	`Elive_user54`	`gotverdomme`
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`19:09.49`	`Elive_user54`	`hello wasynyt thanks for your info - Thana is main dev and comes from spain`
`19:10.03`	`wasynyt`	`your welcome`
`19:11.18`	`Elive_user54`	`i'm from belgium and i planned to do an information session on Linux ...`
`19:12.24`	`Elive_user54`	`information session in a school (secundary school, don't know how you call that in your country)..`
`19:14.34`	`Elive_user54`	`my Linux experience: a little (Ubuntu, Mandrake, DSL)`
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`20:08.45`	`vars`	`hey i just installed e form elive and i can't connect to the internet`
`20:09.20`	`coyote10`	`check command ipconfig`
`20:09.33`	`vars`	`just type that in the term?`
`20:09.35`	`coyote10`	`your conexion to adsl`
`20:09.45`	`pale_horse`	`apt, elpanel`
`20:09.56`	`apt`	`methinks elpanel is the powered center of control of Elive, where all the answers of your questions are, your heart is prepaired for discover all features ? ;)`
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`20:11.03`	`vars`	`i have no ipconfig`
`20:11.30`	`vars`	`wait now i do`
`20:11.32`	`pale_horse`	`ifconfig ethX`
`20:11.44`	`pale_horse`	`ipconfig is windows`
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`20:12.34`	`vars`	`ohh`
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`20:13.59`	`vars`	`now that isn't connection`
`20:14.37`	`pale_horse`	`X = your ethernet port number`
`20:15.14`	`vars`	`yeah, my ADSL screws with my /etc/resolv.conf so i had to change the name server`
`20:16.07`	`vars`	`there it is`
`20:16.23`	`vars`	`hey what is a good cd burning program to use in e`
`20:16.27`	`pale_horse`	`vars, it's all in th panel for easy access`
`20:17.11`	`pale_horse`	`gnomebaker or xcdroast`
`20:17.25`	`pale_horse`	`they will all work if you have the gui libraries`
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`20:17.40`	`pale_horse`	`hey LinuxNIT`
`20:17.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`hey`
`20:17.57`	`LinuxNIT`	`hows it goin`
`20:19.02`	`pale_horse`	`excellent NIT`
`20:19.22`	`pale_horse`	`all is well dist-upgrade and e-modules played well this trip`
`20:19.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`cool`
`20:21.12`	`vars`	`wow elive comes with cinnerella`
`20:21.21`	`LinuxNIT`	`yes it does :D`
`20:24.50`	`Thanashiba`	`vars, cinelerra ? where ? http://elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/_previews/cinelerra-2-b.jpg.html`
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`20:33.07`	`ElonGlasb`	`Well cinerella is nice but I prefer Lives, for me it easyer to work with.`
`20:34.20`	`ElonGlasb`	`Lives http://lives.sourceforge.net/`
`20:34.20`	`vars`	`wow, i have been fighting with lives for aobut 3 weeks it has been a big pain`
`20:34.29`	`ElonGlasb`	`Why??`
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`20:35.10`	`vars`	`the whole interface is messed up`
`20:35.30`	`vars`	`i had to learn the hard way how to put three or four clips together`
`20:36.14`	`vars`	`you can't just load them, you have to save them to another file and then load that file so that the clip board doesn't erase stuff`
`20:36.50`	`vars`	`and the clip editor and the multitrack editor being essentiallly seperate is a big pain`
`20:37.12`	`ElonGlasb`	`Hmm, yeah for me it is searching still always how to get what I want.`
`20:37.49`	`Thanashiba`	`ElonGlasb, well.. i don't know very about lives but...i have made a video with cinelerra without any knowledgement of it, just "trying buttons" ;)`
`20:38.30`	`Thanashiba`	`if you like to make a look to this video, the result is good, you found it on http://thanatermesis.org Files -> Videos -> 2º video, the green`
`20:38.39`	`vars`	`yeah the interface for cinelerra looks complex but it look like it is all there`
`20:41.17`	`vars`	`ElonGlasb, hmmm`
`20:41.27`	`ElonGlasb`	`I must admit that I don't know cinellerra to well.`
`20:41.31`	`vars`	`i wish i knew you three weeks ago`
`20:41.51`	`Thanashiba`	`make a look to the video ;)`
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`20:42.56`	`vars`	`lives has been good but not greal`
`20:42.59`	`vars`	`great`
`20:43.11`	`ElonGlasb`	`I am looking right now,`
`20:43.47`	`ElonGlasb`	`Yeah nice made!!`
`20:44.36`	`Thanashiba`	`well.. without knowledgements of cinelerra ;) learn cinelerra are in my TODO`
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`20:52.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`ElonGlasb, is the video a little slow of download ?`
`20:52.50`	`ElonGlasb`	`Thanatermesis, no it loads well`
`20:53.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
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`20:58.00`	`pale_horse`	`Thana .. is the "shelf" in 0.5 ?`
`20:58.34`	`vars`	`what is the shelf?`
`20:58.56`	`vars`	`oh btw elive and enlightenment is great where can i send money`
`20:59.04`	`pale_horse`	`another e-17 thing friends have told me about`
`20:59.53`	`pale_horse`	`http://wickedtribe.homeip.net/screenshots/shelf1.png`
`21:01.10`	`pale_horse`	`its like an integration for all the modules like the clock, ibox, ibar`
`21:02.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`pale_horse, no`
`21:02.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`i have stoped the builds of 0.5 just in the moment before to the shelf`
`21:02.46`	`pale_horse`	`OK :)`
`21:02.56`	`pale_horse`	`I'd rather have eloquence anyway :P`
`21:03.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`i need to wait to its good implemented without problems and compatible with the themes, also the modules usable "without the shelf" and etc for update the verison of e17`
`21:03.15`	`vars`	`what is eloquence?`
`21:03.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt, eloquence`
`21:03.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`any person can set a definition to apt ? ;)`
`21:03.47`	`pale_horse`	`on screen display of music playing`
`21:04.15`	`pale_horse`	`thana .. I don't understand`
`21:04.18`	`vars`	`ohh that is cool`
`21:04.28`	`vars`	`but it won't be in .5?`
`21:05.07`	`pale_horse`	`it's not really proven yet`
`21:05.15`	`pale_horse`	`I have done it in fluxbox`
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`21:09.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt, eloquence is a module for e17 for display the music playing in your screen`
`21:10.01`	`apt`	`okay, Thanatermesis`
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`23:06.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`su`
`23:06.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`oops`
`23:06.18`	`LinuxNIT`	`wrong window`
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`23:13.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`first mirror with Elive 0.5 pre-pre available !`
`23:15.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`%C8first mirror with Elive 0.5 pre-pre available !`
`23:15.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`%C8 first mirror with Elive 0.5 pre-pre available !`
`23:15.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`%C3 first mirror with Elive 0.5 pre-pre available !`
`23:15.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`strange... no colors ?`
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`23:27.40`	`Mutacion`	`jiji`
`23:27.47`	`Mutacion`	`1,2, fasl`
`23:28.04`	`coyote10`	`se Mutacion tambien usas elive`
`23:28.16`	`Mutacion`	`achinga`
`23:28.19`	`Mutacion`	`de donde te conozco?`
`23:28.28`	`Mutacion`	`ni idea :P`
`23:28.32`	`Mutacion`	`asi es..soy del estaff`
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`23:50.47`	`vars`	`hey gnomebacker can't find my CD-rw`
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