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| 00:00.29 | revdjenk | weird entrance, Mutacion !! |
| 00:00.37 | revdjenk | :) |
| 00:00.40 | Papageno3 | for the moment I install the packages. |
| 00:00.41 | Mutacion | jiji |
| 00:00.44 | Mutacion | its a nice song |
| 00:01.02 | revdjenk | oh, Papageno3 you are still using livecd |
| 00:01.59 | Papageno3 | not, I installed elive |
| 00:02.15 | Papageno3 | it's better :D |
| 00:02.16 | revdjenk | k, just additional packages, then... duh... I should read |
| 00:02.23 | revdjenk | yes... |
| 00:02.37 | revdjenk | are you using .4.2 or .5? |
| 00:02.48 | Papageno3 | 4.2 |
| 00:03.00 | Papageno3 | .5 is e17 ? |
| 00:03.25 | revdjenk | every version of elive has both e16 and 17 |
| 00:04.08 | Papageno3 | ok |
| 00:04.19 | Papageno3 | I prefer e16 |
| 00:04.26 | revdjenk | .5 still is in high beta... but getting close.... |
| 00:04.53 | revdjenk | I use 17 exclusively... have had no noticeable problems |
| 00:05.27 | Papageno3 | ok |
| 00:07.12 | revdjenk | each has its strengths.... I like engage, but haven't set it up in 17... but I think 17 has even more graphic potential |
| 00:09.16 | Papageno3 | with the new system of the multiple desktop, dual |
| 00:09.16 | Papageno3 | screen is finish. It is not the case with the other distributions |
| 00:10.27 | revdjenk | there is a limit, I think, but e17 normally has 4 set up in .4.2 and now has 8 in latest .5 |
| 00:10.57 | revdjenk | you should be able to set up more in 16 as well... anyone else know for sure? |
| 00:13.09 | Papageno3 | what interests me, it is the way in which one passes from a desktop to |
| 00:13.09 | Papageno3 | the other |
| 00:13.42 | revdjenk | that was a nice discovery... although it surprised me when it first happened!!! |
| 00:14.00 | Papageno3 | ^^ |
| 00:14.38 | revdjenk | and alt-left or -right arrow will take you there also |
| 00:19.32 | revdjenk | you can find that and other keyboard commands through erme (enlightenment remote made easy) in elpanel |
| 00:20.06 | revdjenk | LinuxNIT, is erme available in 16? |
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| 00:22.30 | Papageno3 | I down't no: I am a newbie ;) |
| 00:26.19 | revdjenk | Papageno3, I was asking another user and good helper here in #elive |
| 00:27.08 | Papageno3 | ok. Thanks |
| 00:28.58 | revdjenk | but no answer, right now |
| 00:30.28 | revdjenk | Papageno3, what brought you to linux? |
| 00:31.36 | Papageno3 | love of computing ;) |
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| 00:32.42 | revdjenk | ok |
| 00:32.59 | revdjenk | GPLGeek, hey and good evening... |
| 00:33.10 | revdjenk | have a question... |
| 00:33.14 | GPLGeek | k |
| 00:33.29 | revdjenk | is erme available in 16 or is it just in 17 |
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| 00:34.00 | revdjenk | hey pales_rider ! |
| 00:34.06 | pales_rider | hi rev |
| 00:34.12 | pales_rider | how are you? |
| 00:34.21 | revdjenk | excellent |
| 00:34.24 | revdjenk | and you |
| 00:34.38 | pales_rider | fine thank you |
| 00:34.42 | revdjenk | found air fare for our boy, yet? |
| 00:34.43 | GPLGeek | It's made with the e17 foundation class |
| 00:34.49 | GPLGeek | my guess is e17 only but you can try it |
| 00:34.55 | pales_rider | lol not yet |
| 00:35.15 | revdjenk | thanks... I was helping Papageno3 with some questions a new user today...! |
| 00:35.22 | pales_rider | ill brb..have to put some groceries away |
| 00:35.30 | revdjenk | k |
| 00:35.39 | GPLGeek | actually a version might be avaliable |
| 00:36.43 | revdjenk | ok...I looked in elpanel, but didn't see it there... and I'm in 17 so can't check right now... could Papageno3 find it with evinge |
| 00:37.23 | GPLGeek | It's not avaliable for elive I don't think |
| 00:37.41 | GPLGeek | I got people over I've got to afk |
| 00:38.39 | revdjenk | whoops, maybe I mis-typed... is it evige... alt-esc.. brings up a window you type app names in |
| 00:39.05 | revdjenk | ok...see you later |
| 00:42.53 | revdjenk | Papageno3, where are you in the world? |
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| 00:52.26 | revdjenk | its router woman!!! |
| 00:52.45 | revdjenk | the duality from out east! |
| 00:56.06 | _pales_rider | lol |
| 00:56.09 | _pales_rider | yup its me |
| 00:56.46 | _pales_rider | pale_horse mailed me a new one today |
| 00:57.05 | revdjenk | ...and... |
| 00:57.08 | _pales_rider | so cross your fingers |
| 00:57.20 | revdjenk | can I use it in a sermon? |
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| 00:58.59 | pales_rider_ | ok stop laughing |
| 00:59.08 | revdjenk | this new router seems to NOT be working... |
| 00:59.17 | revdjenk | no, I'm just giggling |
| 00:59.21 | pales_rider_ | nooo he just mailed it today |
| 00:59.25 | pales_rider_ | i dont have it yet |
| 00:59.34 | revdjenk | oooh.. |
| 01:00.24 | pales_rider_ | i would just bypass it but my daughter is doing a research paper so i need to have her connected too |
| 01:00.48 | pales_rider_ | so either i dont go online or she doesnt and that aint happening |
| 01:01.01 | revduhjenk | yes... hope she has it done by the end of school... it is coming! |
| 01:01.16 | pales_rider_ | another 2 weeks |
| 01:01.24 | revduhjenk | you are a true mom, giving up for the kid!! |
| 01:01.42 | pales_rider_ | ty rev..i do try |
| 01:02.04 | pales_rider_ | so you all get to watch me drop continuosly..lol |
| 01:02.20 | revduhjenk | heehee...but you bounce right back... |
| 01:02.24 | pales_rider_ | yup |
| 01:02.29 | pales_rider_ | its a strange thing |
| 01:02.36 | revduhjenk | silly putty does that |
| 01:02.47 | revduhjenk | ur... um.... ahhh |
| 01:02.53 | pales_rider_ | lol |
| 01:03.02 | pales_rider_ | where is my little buddy? |
| 01:03.20 | revduhjenk | I tried pinging him earlier...but no go... |
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| 01:04.37 | revduhjenk | hey have you fired your minister, and putin a request for yours truly, yet...? |
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| 01:09.02 | revduhjenk | nick collision from services... ! wow ! you really know how to do it hee hee |
| 01:09.14 | pales_rider | i couldnt get back in |
| 01:09.24 | revduhjenk | but here you are |
| 01:09.28 | pales_rider | had to get pale_horse to kill my ghosts |
| 01:10.11 | pale_horse | hey rev |
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| 01:10.24 | revduhjenk | g'evening pale_horse |
| 01:10.36 | _pales_rider | ok i give up |
| 01:10.36 | revduhjenk | alter ego has arrived |
| 01:11.02 | revduhjenk | see... it is more important that you are here |
| 01:11.22 | revduhjenk | <revduhjenk> hey have you fired your minister, and putin a request for yours truly, yet...? |
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| 01:14.13 | _pales_rider | ok lets see what happens now |
| 01:16.30 | revduhjenk | well I know what has to happen now |
| 01:16.36 | revduhjenk | apt time-to |
| 01:16.39 | apt | i heard time-to is its HAMBRITA TIME!!! |
| 01:16.48 | revduhjenk | brb |
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| 01:29.04 | Mutacion | lol revduhjenk |
| 01:29.05 | Mutacion | xD |
| 01:29.18 | Mutacion | qiubole ppl |
| 01:29.21 | revduhjenk | munch munch |
| 01:29.35 | Mutacion | run forest! RUN :P |
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| 01:32.29 | revduhjenk | chew chomp |
| 01:32.53 | _pales_rider | lol |
| 01:33.38 | GPLGeek | Ok im back |
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| 01:35.57 | GPLGeek | X-chat flipping out over config change lol |
| 01:39.18 | revduhjenk | why isn't there an e-chat... or is there one? |
| 01:41.26 | _pales_rider | dunno |
| 01:44.08 | roxville | revduhjenk, there is one being worked on... kinda |
| 01:44.11 | roxville | i think |
| 01:44.18 | roxville | was that vague? lol |
| 01:44.41 | revduhjenk | maybe... just a fraction... perhaps |
| 01:44.47 | roxville | hehe |
| 01:45.49 | roxville | rookmoot, what is that app you are working on? |
| 01:45.55 | roxville | is it a port of amsn? |
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| 01:48.10 | revduhjenk | we will have everything e.... |
| 01:50.32 | revduhjenk | roxville, has there ever been, or are there plans to have any area elive get togethers? |
| 01:51.23 | revduhjenk | I plan to go to my local computer club, which has a linux sub-group, and show elive... unless it has been shown already |
| 01:51.25 | roxville | revduhjenk, yes... kinda... pale_horse is thinking about coming over to charleston... |
| 01:51.48 | revduhjenk | charleston WV great only a 6 1/2 drive |
| 01:51.50 | revduhjenk | hee hee |
| 01:52.33 | roxville | no..... |
| 01:52.49 | roxville | charleston, sc... |
| 01:52.51 | roxville | :D |
| 01:52.51 | revduhjenk | lets see; LinuxNIT could grab a ride with him.... I'll slide down the east coast and bring pales_rider and her dtr |
| 01:52.55 | revduhjenk | hee hee |
| 01:53.19 | roxville | lol |
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| 01:54.40 | revduhjenk | we could plan a surreptitious wedding... dtr and LinuxNIT surprise! |
| 01:56.48 | roxville | revduhjenk, hmmm... |
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| 02:01.52 | _pales_rider | LMAO |
| 02:02.24 | _pales_rider | now that a good one |
| 02:06.36 | pale_horse | linuxnit can ride in the back of the f250 - that's cool |
| 02:06.59 | pale_horse | plenty of air and free wifi on the interstate |
| 02:08.03 | _pales_rider | lol oh my |
| 02:08.35 | _pales_rider | if anyone is getting married it wont be my daughter and linuxnit..LLMAO |
| 02:11.28 | revduhjenk | hee hee |
| 02:11.42 | revduhjenk | well, we could only get them together and see... |
| 02:12.25 | revduhjenk | and why NOT LinuxNIT ? I think he would be a good husband, father, provider, supporter |
| 02:12.25 | pale_horse | scary .. very scary |
| 02:12.30 | revduhjenk | hee hee |
| 02:12.49 | _pales_rider | father? |
| 02:13.04 | _pales_rider | i am way to young to be a grandmother..get that thought out of your head |
| 02:16.07 | _pales_rider | brb |
| 02:16.20 | revduhjenk | I was a grandfather at um... |
| 02:16.47 | pale_horse | don't go there with me |
| 02:17.05 | revduhjenk | I was a grandfather at 45 |
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| 02:17.15 | pale_horse | 36 or 38 for me |
| 02:17.21 | pale_horse | I forget |
| 02:17.29 | revduhjenk | you ARE old |
| 02:17.53 | pale_horse | I'll let that one pass |
| 02:18.07 | revduhjenk | hey `Kevin ! |
| 02:18.11 | revduhjenk | hee hee |
| 02:18.31 | revduhjenk | but my eldest grandson is 22 |
| 02:19.11 | roxville | <pale_horse> plenty of air and free wifi on the interstate LMAO |
| 02:19.43 | revduhjenk | hah |
| 02:21.29 | pale_horse | ooot big buckin chicken commercial |
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| 02:36.42 | revduhjenk | see whatcha did pale_horse ? you cleared em out |
| 02:36.56 | pale_horse | not me - I was bein nice |
| 02:36.59 | roxville | did he fart or something? |
| 02:37.07 | revduhjenk | must have |
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| 02:37.20 | pale_horse | I was drinkin milk and having fig newtons |
| 02:37.38 | revduhjenk | apt time-to |
| 02:37.39 | apt | [time-to] its HAMBRITA TIME!!! |
| 02:37.52 | roxville | hiya Detox |
| 02:38.22 | Detox | have a question,,,, changed theme and now when I open xfe file manager, it is was off the top of the screen and I cannot get it back except to kill it what happened? |
| 02:38.25 | Detox | hello all |
| 02:38.47 | Detox | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:38.49 | pale_horse | alt and left click to drag is back |
| 02:39.03 | Detox | will try |
| 02:39.07 | roxville | i was gonna say that! |
| 02:39.09 | roxville | lol |
| 02:39.24 | revduhjenk | see your training is working |
| 02:39.28 | Detox | whew |
| 02:39.34 | Detox | got it and closed it |
| 02:39.47 | roxville | i gotta make him think i know <roxville> SOMETING! |
| 02:39.57 | revduhjenk | lol |
| 02:39.58 | Detox | why did it go there? |
| 02:40.03 | Detox | any ideas? |
| 02:40.04 | pale_horse | detox, alt click and drag works for any window |
| 02:40.11 | Detox | and BTW... thanks |
| 02:40.20 | roxville | Detox, it's the goonads... |
| 02:40.24 | Detox | ahhh |
| 02:40.59 | Detox | pale horse showd me how to copy backgrounds into the correct folder ,,now I can change that |
| 02:41.10 | roxville | when you change theme, e reloads... and things like that can happen |
| 02:41.12 | Detox | and ,, I found a bunch of themes in synaptic |
| 02:41.18 | revduhjenk | Detox, an alternate way (what worked for me) was to drag the little image in the little desktop ... |
| 02:41.38 | roxville | Detox, milkys is very nice for e17 |
| 02:41.41 | Detox | yes |
| 02:41.55 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.57 | revduhjenk | yes |
| 02:42.22 | revduhjenk | hee hay ! I represent that comment |
| 02:42.25 | roxville | coz the dark themes are just too darn... dark |
| 02:42.36 | roxville | hehe |
| 02:42.48 | Detox | oh ,,, I DL'd soem games, now I knwo I can run them from comamnd line but how can I add tehm to the games menu? |
| 02:43.12 | roxville | *sigh* |
| 02:43.15 | Detox | arrgg my fingers are spazzing again |
| 02:43.21 | roxville | where's the link to that howto? |
| 02:43.30 | roxville | LinuxNIT, ??? |
| 02:43.44 | Detox | was that a bad question < sigh>? |
| 02:43.57 | roxville | Detox, no! not bad... |
| 02:44.02 | pale_horse | you can get the source for e17genmenu and build it |
| 02:44.03 | roxville | just very common :) |
| 02:44.06 | pale_horse | then run that |
| 02:44.38 | roxville | or... |
| 02:45.10 | roxville | depending on what theme you are running... click in the upper left or right corner... you get a menu |
| 02:45.22 | roxville | in the menu, it says... "create icon" |
| 02:45.25 | roxville | choose that |
| 02:45.57 | roxville | you usually only type the app name in both fields |
| 02:46.06 | roxville | and then add an icon |
| 02:46.31 | roxville | you have to navigate to /usr/share/icons or /usr/share/pixmaps |
| 02:46.37 | Detox | I saw the creat icon stuff but isnt that for an icon that is poaced on deskto? |
| 02:46.42 | Detox | and not added to a menu? |
| 02:46.56 | roxville | Detox, you have to do this step first |
| 02:46.59 | Detox | ok |
| 02:47.08 | roxville | THEN you can add it to a menu |
| 02:47.12 | Detox | ahhh |
| 02:47.30 | roxville | enlightenments icons system is not like ANY of the other wm's |
| 02:47.36 | Detox | ok |
| 02:47.46 | revduhjenk | no icons will be on desktop in elive, onlly into engage or ibar or to menu... that is from developer Thanatermesis |
| 02:47.46 | roxville | Detox, open a terminal |
| 02:47.59 | Detox | opened |
| 02:48.02 | roxville | and type: entangle |
| 02:48.20 | Detox | ok |
| 02:48.23 | roxville | the icons on your left are the apps you have installed |
| 02:48.43 | Detox | got it |
| 02:49.07 | roxville | Thana has also added icons for some apps that are NOT installed, but that ppl like to install |
| 02:49.19 | roxville | kind of a courtesy thing |
| 02:49.25 | Detox | got ity |
| 02:49.31 | revduhjenk | oh, while we are on this subject.... how do you get an app OFF the menu... |
| 02:50.24 | roxville | revduhjenk, good question! |
| 02:50.29 | roxville | next question? |
| 02:50.45 | revduhjenk | oh, I wasn't asking for that!!! :) |
| 02:50.56 | roxville | lol |
| 02:52.28 | roxville | revduhjenk, i'm looking to see if i can find it for ya... |
| 02:52.35 | revduhjenk | thanks... |
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| 02:55.13 | revduhjenk | gnite |
| 02:57.19 | roxville | revduhjenk, |
| 02:57.23 | roxville | wait!!! |
| 02:57.28 | roxville | i FOUND IT!!! |
| 02:57.36 | roxville | entangle |
| 02:57.43 | roxville | oh... |
| 02:57.44 | roxville | lol |
| 02:58.00 | revduhjenk | or should it be unentangle |
| 02:58.04 | revduhjenk | :) |
| 02:58.08 | roxville | hehe |
| 02:58.15 | revduhjenk | k |
| 02:58.20 | Detox | hhmmmm I want to change default font for terminal and faq says to open Xdefault in /home dir |
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| 02:58.29 | roxville | go to the menu where you wanna remove something, and middle-click on it! |
| 02:58.33 | Detox | try to open with scipe and is not found but I see it in MC |
| 02:58.44 | roxville | damn, i had no idea that that was it! cool! |
| 02:58.54 | Detox | well ,, I cannot access it |
| 02:59.05 | revduhjenk | of course the ubuquitous key command! |
| 02:59.18 | revduhjenk | yippee!!!! |
| 02:59.21 | roxville | Detox, scite or scipe? |
| 02:59.37 | Detox | scite |
| 02:59.46 | roxville | scipe is not a n app... so if you juist misspelled? |
| 02:59.49 | roxville | ok |
| 03:00.22 | Detox | well anyway ,, no file is found but I can see it in Mc |
| 03:00.48 | Detox | sorry phone |
| 03:01.11 | revduhjenk | oh you thot skype? |
| 03:01.46 | LinuxNIT-II | sup guys |
| 03:02.09 | revduhjenk | hey LinuxNIT-II !!! |
| 03:02.22 | LinuxNIT | triced ya... im over here now |
| 03:02.28 | LinuxNIT | *tricked |
| 03:02.39 | roxville | Detox, are you using elpanel to do this? |
| 03:02.49 | LinuxNIT | hows it goin revduhjenk and dererk and roxville |
| 03:02.50 | revduhjenk | k |
| 03:02.56 | roxville | Linuxino, you are sooo sneaky! |
| 03:02.56 | revduhjenk | ok |
| 03:03.00 | LinuxNIT | and Detox |
| 03:03.03 | revduhjenk | hee heeh hee hee |
| 03:03.07 | LinuxNIT | sneaky sneaky |
| 03:03.16 | revduhjenk | N is needed now |
| 03:03.31 | LinuxNIT | i am verrrwwwy sneeaky |
| 03:03.52 | revduhjenk | N is needed to auto complete |
| 03:04.31 | roxville | yup, i saw that |
| 03:04.59 | roxville | or change your nick to linaxNIT |
| 03:05.07 | LinuxNIT | :o |
| 03:05.24 | revduhjenk | or spinuxNIT |
| 03:05.32 | LinuxNIT | im not the first L any more :( |
| 03:05.55 | roxville | you're still the big bee, though |
| 03:06.05 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:06.19 | revduhjenk | LOL |
| 03:06.31 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 03:06.57 | roxville | shift key check? |
| 03:07.22 | LinuxNIT | :> is my versoin of :D |
| 03:07.25 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 03:07.41 | LinuxNIT | or... |
| 03:07.42 | roxville | i know :) |
| 03:07.45 | LinuxNIT | :] |
| 03:07.58 | LinuxNIT | :E] |
| 03:08.05 | roxville | that's kind of a silly smile... |
| 03:08.13 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:08.20 | LinuxNIT | :} |
| 03:08.48 | roxville | that one is for when you meet pales_riders daughter |
| 03:08.57 | revduhjenk | LOOOOL |
| 03:08.59 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 03:09.23 | LinuxNIT | i highly doubt that will happen |
| 03:09.36 | revduhjenk | yes, we are trying to set up a summer get-together in Charleston SC... I wonder who started that? |
| 03:09.45 | roxville | you did |
| 03:09.46 | LinuxNIT | you |
| 03:09.48 | revduhjenk | for all of us |
| 03:10.00 | revduhjenk | I didn't pick the place, pale_horse did |
| 03:10.07 | LinuxNIT | is this a serious thing? |
| 03:10.16 | roxville | it could be! |
| 03:10.20 | LinuxNIT | like its actually happening? |
| 03:10.21 | LinuxNIT | wow |
| 03:10.35 | revduhjenk | I'm half serious... depends on when and if I have a new postiion by then |
| 03:10.42 | roxville | ever been down south, boy? |
| 03:10.45 | revduhjenk | I may be about 5 hours closer |
| 03:11.01 | revduhjenk | which boy...me? |
| 03:11.06 | roxville | "you ain't from around here, are ya?" |
| 03:11.06 | LinuxNIT | does "boy: refer to me? |
| 03:11.17 | revduhjenk | Bahamas, remember? |
| 03:11.20 | LinuxNIT | does "boy" refer to me? |
| 03:11.23 | roxville | yes, it clearly refers to you :) |
| 03:11.25 | LinuxNIT | or the rev? |
| 03:11.30 | LinuxNIT | im from the south |
| 03:11.41 | LinuxNIT | just not the deep south |
| 03:11.47 | revduhjenk | I had a week's training in Atlanta in 1977 |
| 03:11.51 | Detox | still on phone sorry |
| 03:12.15 | roxville | LinuxNIT, ok is hardly the south... |
| 03:12.23 | roxville | it's the wild wild west! |
| 03:12.48 | LinuxNIT | rodders, Ok is the south.... just not the deep south |
| 03:12.53 | revduhjenk | dah-dah-dah-dah-DAAH-dah-dah |
| 03:12.56 | LinuxNIT | grrr |
| 03:13.00 | roxville | lol |
| 03:13.03 | LinuxNIT | roxville, Ok is the south.... just not the deep south |
| 03:13.04 | LinuxNIT | there |
| 03:13.51 | LinuxNIT | not my problem |
| 03:13.57 | roxville | lol |
| 03:14.02 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 03:14.10 | roxville | yes it is... you have to convince me now! |
| 03:14.23 | LinuxNIT | ok was south of the mason dixen line. |
| 03:14.26 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 03:14.38 | roxville | the mason-dixon line is the ruler |
| 03:14.50 | roxville | ok |
| 03:14.57 | roxville | then i believe you :) |
| 03:14.58 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 03:15.08 | LinuxNIT | i gtg for a bit |
| 03:15.20 | LinuxNIT | i gotta give the dog his nightly training session |
| 03:15.28 | LinuxNIT | bbiab |
| 03:15.30 | LinuxNIT | revduhjenk, lmfao |
| 03:15.59 | roxville | revduhjenk, i could even spell it better than LinuxNIT ... |
| 03:16.10 | revduhjenk | I have to go...finish a sermon for a wedding.... see ya all later |
| 03:16.12 | roxville | which only proves that i am NOT from the south... |
| 03:16.14 | revduhjenk | hahahaha |
| 03:16.21 | revduhjenk | haahahaha |
| 03:16.23 | revduhjenk | hahahaha |
| 03:16.25 | roxville | ok revduhjenk have fun! |
| 03:16.39 | revduhjenk | see ya all later... |
| 03:16.45 | revduhjenk | God Bless |
| 03:16.48 | roxville | yep |
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| 03:26.30 | LinuxNIT | <roxville> revduhjenk, i could even spell it better than LinuxNIT ...<<<< yeah im not trying either ;) |
| 03:27.00 | roxville | <roxville> which only proves that i am NOT from the south... |
| 03:27.08 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 03:27.16 | Detox | ok back |
| 03:27.17 | Detox | sorry |
| 03:27.21 | roxville | O:) |
| 03:27.30 | roxville | no problem Detox |
| 03:27.34 | roxville | what's up? |
| 03:27.39 | Detox | now,, how can I oen the Xdefault file in the /home dir? |
| 03:28.03 | Detox | that is where the fonts are lsited for the terminal and other ares |
| 03:28.20 | roxville | oh... |
| 03:28.28 | LinuxNIT | scite .Xdefaults |
| 03:28.30 | roxville | it's in the hidden dir |
| 03:28.35 | LinuxNIT | make sure you have the dot |
| 03:28.46 | Detox | do I need to be root? |
| 03:28.48 | roxville | the one in evidence that is green and calle .files |
| 03:28.51 | LinuxNIT | the dot is verrwwy important |
| 03:28.56 | LinuxNIT | no user works |
| 03:28.59 | LinuxNIT | i just opened it |
| 03:29.03 | roxville | Detox, you don't need to be root |
| 03:29.18 | Detox | ok got it |
| 03:31.49 | LinuxNIT | david@E-moblie[~/Wifi-Wiz]$ mkdir Wifi-Wiz |
| 03:31.49 | LinuxNIT | mkdir: cannot create directory `Wifi-Wiz': Read-only file system |
| 03:31.49 | LinuxNIT | david@E-moblie[~/Wifi-Wiz]$ |
| 03:31.51 | LinuxNIT | wtf? |
| 03:32.49 | Detox | ahh that is a lot better |
| 03:33.19 | Detox | with this theme ,, it has changed to terminal to a fuzzy gray |
| 03:33.41 | Detox | can I change this also or what do you recommend? |
| 03:34.28 | Detox | if it was a solid colour with contasting text that would be awesoem |
| 03:36.03 | roxville | Detox, you can set the root transparency, which will be the backround for terminal |
| 03:36.07 | Detox | here is the part I think I need to mess with::::: |
| 03:36.11 | Detox | URxvt.background: black |
| 03:36.11 | Detox | URxvt.foreground: white |
| 03:36.11 | Detox | URxvt.shading: 86 |
| 03:36.11 | Detox | URxvt.tintColor: white |
| 03:36.11 | Detox | URxvt.inheritPixmap: true |
| 03:36.12 | Detox | URxvt.scrollBar: false |
| 03:36.14 | Detox | URxvt.title: Terminal |
| 03:36.33 | roxville | Detox, please do this from elpanel |
| 03:36.44 | roxville | or are you? lol |
| 03:36.46 | Detox | ok closed out |
| 03:37.03 | Detox | opening panel |
| 03:37.14 | roxville | you know how to get to the e17 part, right? |
| 03:37.15 | Detox | where is ti in the panel? |
| 03:37.31 | Detox | behind the guy? |
| 03:37.41 | Detox | or click on keys |
| 03:37.42 | roxville | no, the left icon |
| 03:37.53 | roxville | and then on the e17 icon |
| 03:37.53 | Detox | ok got it |
| 03:38.13 | roxville | terminal stuff is on the lower right |
| 03:39.19 | roxville | Detox, next to that icon, is the backgrounds manager |
| 03:39.19 | Detox | ok i do not know waht transpericy = 86 means |
| 03:39.38 | roxville | THAT is what you use to set a different background for the root trsnap |
| 03:40.20 | roxville | 86 would mean that it is almost totally transparent |
| 03:40.40 | Detox | lower number would be stronger color? |
| 03:42.01 | roxville | yes |
| 03:43.09 | Detox | ok changed it to 30 and font size to 14 |
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| 03:43.19 | Detox | now do I need to restart? |
| 03:44.00 | roxville | as in reboot? no |
| 03:44.23 | Detox | no restart the session |
| 03:44.33 | roxville | it should work right away |
| 03:44.51 | roxville | if it doesn't, choose restart enlightenment from the menu |
| 03:44.54 | Detox | terminal screen is still very fuzzy |
| 03:45.16 | Detox | looks like an old tty terminal |
| 03:45.25 | Detox | with a bad TV |
| 03:45.32 | roxville | lol |
| 03:45.33 | Detox | not sharp at all |
| 03:45.54 | Detox | how can i get rid of the fading grey and have a good strong single colour? |
| 03:46.35 | roxville | hmmm... |
| 03:46.51 | Detox | yup hmmmm |
| 03:46.57 | roxville | lol |
| 03:47.55 | roxville | by choosing a different background |
| 03:47.59 | Detox | when I highlite the test,, it becomes clear |
| 03:48.07 | Detox | ok how? |
| 03:48.11 | Detox | same place? |
| 03:48.22 | roxville | next to the terminal icon |
| 03:48.30 | roxville | is the backgrounds manager |
| 03:48.56 | roxville | there is where you can change that... the "root transp window" or something like that |
| 03:49.00 | Detox | on bottom of screen or in panel? |
| 03:49.09 | roxville | yes |
| 03:49.16 | roxville | in panel |
| 03:49.17 | Detox | yes which? |
| 03:49.48 | roxville | just to the left of the icon you used in elpanel |
| 03:52.17 | Detox | another prog comes up 'entice' |
| 03:53.23 | roxville | did you choose an image then? |
| 03:53.28 | roxville | just close entice |
| 03:53.38 | Detox | no dont know what to do with the prog |
| 03:53.43 | Detox | ok |
| 03:53.47 | roxville | then you get a dialog about adding effects |
| 03:53.54 | GPLGeek | Interesting fact of the day, Myspace uses the NT kernel on most of their servers and are having problems managing load |
| 03:54.05 | GPLGeek | it's not their connection or their hardware |
| 03:54.09 | GPLGeek | hmm wonder what it could be |
| 03:54.09 | roxville | http://71.204.226.14/public_html/misc/larger-than-life-bg-darker.jpg Detox |
| 03:54.18 | roxville | download this image |
| 03:54.21 | GPLGeek | oh yes, they are not using solaris / linux |
| 03:54.28 | roxville | and navigate to it |
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| 03:54.33 | roxville | start over |
| 03:54.36 | GPLGeek | mmmmm nice image |
| 03:54.58 | roxville | lol, thx :) |
| 03:55.03 | Detox | ok |
| 03:55.05 | Detox | done |
| 03:55.22 | Detox | now click on adda new background? |
| 03:55.22 | roxville | then start the background thing again |
| 03:55.27 | roxville | yes |
| 03:55.37 | roxville | but for root transp |
| 03:55.58 | roxville | it's for the root window, not for root user |
| 03:56.21 | Detox | ok |
| 03:56.37 | Detox | no change |
| 03:56.50 | Detox | still fuzzy greay |
| 03:57.11 | Detox | I am missing it i think |
| 03:57.19 | roxville | yeah |
| 03:57.25 | Detox | arrgggg |
| 03:57.27 | roxville | is it the default terminal? |
| 03:57.32 | Detox | ok click on e17 |
| 03:57.48 | Detox | now click on bottom right |
| 03:57.58 | Detox | correct? |
| 03:57.59 | roxville | Detox, NO! |
| 03:58.02 | Detox | ok |
| 03:58.05 | roxville | the middle icon |
| 03:58.11 | Detox | middle bottom |
| 03:58.16 | roxville | on the bottom in panel |
| 03:58.23 | Detox | ok |
| 03:58.45 | roxville | Detox, option 3 |
| 03:58.50 | Detox | add new background or change root window transperancy |
| 03:59.05 | roxville | the latter |
| 03:59.17 | Detox | k |
| 04:00.22 | roxville | entice will open the image you choose, just close entice |
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| 04:01.02 | LinuxNIT | welcome Elive_user |
| 04:01.03 | Detox | then in next options select the first? }is goog"? |
| 04:01.06 | roxville | hello Elive_user |
| 04:01.12 | roxville | Detox, yes |
| 04:01.20 | Detox | ok |
| 04:01.44 | roxville | it's all goog :) |
| 04:01.47 | Detox | hot dog!!! |
| 04:01.52 | Detox | is now pitch balck |
| 04:01.58 | Detox | and letter are white |
| 04:02.08 | LinuxNIT | bet thats easy to read |
| 04:02.14 | Detox | a lot better |
| 04:02.44 | Detox | so I can use any jpg file there? |
| 04:02.48 | roxville | if you move the terminal around... is it totally black? |
| 04:03.04 | roxville | yes you can... if you use elpanel |
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| 04:03.08 | Detox | yup pitch balck |
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| 04:03.16 | Detox | ok fantastic |
| 04:03.27 | Detox | this is what I could use a manual for |
| 04:03.35 | roxville | Detox, that's right... you lowered the transp in terminal manager |
| 04:04.01 | roxville | from 86 to lower, right? |
| 04:04.40 | Detox | how about later this week when i am at work and I can see everything you run through each selection with me for a few min and i will write a faq for each with an attempt on how to use ancd configure? |
| 04:05.09 | roxville | i usually use the same background as i have on the desktop... so it looks like real transparency |
| 04:05.11 | Detox | I looked all over and cannot find any docs on elpanel |
| 04:05.41 | roxville | yeah Detox , those docs are still to be written |
| 04:05.53 | Detox | tehn I can play wtih each oen and figure out how i would need it explained as a new person? |
| 04:06.08 | Detox | well colour me typist OK? |
| 04:06.14 | roxville | that would be a great contribution! |
| 04:06.20 | roxville | hehe |
| 04:06.26 | Detox | jsut be gentle with me |
| 04:06.39 | roxville | i'll do my best! |
| 04:06.45 | roxville | :) |
| 04:06.54 | Detox | I will do a rough draft for it,, and sent it to you for proof |
| 04:07.34 | roxville | sounds like a plan to me! |
| 04:07.50 | Detox | since I am just above the level of dunderhead ,,, i can put the two sylable words in and you can put it into geek code |
| 04:07.58 | Detox | ok? |
| 04:08.16 | roxville | geek code... is not my game... |
| 04:08.25 | roxville | more for LinuxNIT |
| 04:08.36 | LinuxNIT | do what? |
| 04:08.37 | Detox | my monitor at home is maxed at 100% of brightness and I have hard time reading anything in dark colours |
| 04:09.01 | Detox | like the elpanel I know words aer going acros but have no idea what they are |
| 04:09.16 | roxville | Detox, do you want me to pay you a visit? |
| 04:09.29 | Detox | are ya gonna hit me? |
| 04:09.32 | roxville | if you open elpanel and click on the user icon |
| 04:09.48 | Detox | ok did |
| 04:09.49 | roxville | and then on the lower left... we can set up so i can log in |
| 04:09.57 | Detox | sure |
| 04:10.01 | roxville | sorry |
| 04:10.08 | roxville | lower right... the two screens |
| 04:10.44 | Detox | ok did |
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| 04:28.25 | roxville | see you all tomorrow ppl :) |
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| 04:35.06 | wasynyt | good morning everyone |
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| 04:52.24 | mofo | hola Mutacion |
| 04:52.44 | mofo | hello |
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| 08:03.27 | wasynyt | good afternoon everyone |
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| 08:30.12 | wasynyt | good day everyone |
| 08:32.38 | kr1stof | moin |
| 08:34.44 | wasynyt | :D |
| 08:35.32 | Bouba | hi! |
| 08:36.05 | wasynyt | ahh some people are alive |
| 08:39.02 | wasynyt | so whats up people |
| 08:39.48 | Bouba | 6/6/6 muahahahah the end of the world :D |
| 08:40.31 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 08:40.33 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 08:40.44 | wasynyt | or so some people think |
| 08:41.07 | Bouba | mee too:D |
| 08:41.11 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 08:43.43 | wasynyt | welcome Elive_user72 |
| 08:43.43 | Elive_user72 | hello everwbodw |
| 08:43.49 | Elive_user72 | hello everwbody |
| 08:43.49 | wasynyt | :D |
| 08:43.50 | Bouba | hi |
| 08:45.00 | Elive_user72 | a message for say that elive is a very very best distro |
| 08:45.11 | wasynyt | :D |
| 08:45.34 | Mutacion | hi |
| 08:45.35 | Mutacion | bye |
| 08:45.41 | Mutacion | im asleep |
| 08:45.44 | Mutacion | bye wasynyt |
| 08:45.46 | wasynyt | ahh |
| 08:45.49 | wasynyt | good night |
| 08:45.50 | Mutacion | bye Bouba |
| 08:45.55 | Mutacion | bye Elive_user72 |
| 08:45.55 | Bouba | byeeeeee;) |
| 08:45.56 | Elive_user72 | bye |
| 08:45.59 | Mutacion | thanks |
| 08:46.02 | Mutacion | apt bye |
| 08:46.08 | apt | l8tr |
| 08:46.08 | Mutacion | xD |
| 08:46.11 | Bouba | eheh |
| 08:46.16 | wasynyt | heh |
| 08:46.21 | wasynyt | apt is slow |
| 08:46.34 | Bouba | apt upgrade :D |
| 08:46.54 | wasynyt | :D |
| 08:47.33 | Elive_user72 | apt remove :d |
| 08:48.06 | Elive_user72 | Its hard I dont have the good keyboard /// |
| 08:48.13 | Elive_user72 | oups |
| 08:48.25 | wasynyt | huh? |
| 08:48.35 | Bouba | keymap? |
| 08:49.28 | Elive_user72 | ok now it's good |
| 08:49.41 | wasynyt | :D |
| 08:49.46 | Elive_user72 | with tha very nice elive panel :-) |
| 08:49.57 | wasynyt | :D |
| 08:50.34 | Bouba | yea elpanel it's the best for noobs like me:D:D:D |
| 08:50.52 | wasynyt | Elive_user72 it would be nice if you change your nick to somethng less anonymous... to change type /nick new_nick |
| 08:51.13 | wasynyt | Bouba i like it too |
| 08:51.14 | wasynyt | :D |
| 08:51.16 | Elive_user72 | yes but it's may be more seepdy in CLI but .. |
| 08:52.30 | Elive_user72 | but loadkeys CH_fr is not permits with the user right ... and I hate root right :-) |
| 08:52.58 | Elive_user72 | well elive panel is more easy and more secure ;-) |
| 08:53.13 | Bouba | if you hate root, you hate GOD:D |
| 08:53.41 | Elive_user72 | but not the philosophy of buda |
| 08:53.51 | Bouba | eheheheh;) |
| 08:53.52 | Elive_user72 | lol |
| 08:54.28 | Elive_user72 | sorry I see that normal user is on the sudo pass list ... |
| 08:55.04 | Elive_user72 | well the sudo loadkeys CH_fr works very fine |
| 08:55.32 | wasynyt | :D |
| 08:55.43 | Elive_user72 | but I love graphics tools ... it's more simple for my mind |
| 09:01.00 | Elive_user72 | In one month I must make a course in linux... And for a demo I want use elive cd for impress erverybody |
| 09:01.16 | wasynyt | that will work |
| 09:01.26 | wasynyt | knows one chap who did it |
| 09:01.41 | Elive_user72 | chap? |
| 09:01.52 | wasynyt | a person.. dude etc |
| 09:02.09 | Elive_user72 | ok |
| 09:02.11 | wasynyt | :D |
| 09:02.26 | wasynyt | sorry for using odd words |
| 09:02.47 | Elive_user72 | nevermind |
| 09:02.55 | Elive_user72 | I french people ... |
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| 09:03.00 | wasynyt | ahh |
| 09:03.01 | wasynyt | :D |
| 09:03.24 | Elive_user72 | And dont speak spell well english |
| 09:03.36 | wasynyt | but you speak still |
| 09:03.46 | wasynyt | and that is good |
| 09:03.57 | wasynyt | only that way you can learn |
| 09:03.59 | Elive_user72 | I dont live in France but in switzerland ... |
| 09:04.10 | wasynyt | well allmost the same |
| 09:04.12 | Elive_user72 | yes that true |
| 09:04.48 | Elive_user72 | Yes but in switzerland the english community is very important |
| 09:04.48 | wasynyt | :D |
| 09:05.20 | wasynyt | could be... i think that switzerland is very international country |
| 09:05.36 | Elive_user72 | And for a computer man it's important to know english |
| 09:05.44 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 09:05.58 | Elive_user72 | but I want to learn more and more ... |
| 09:06.00 | wasynyt | there is very few non english computer systems |
| 09:06.11 | wasynyt | using is the best way to learn |
| 09:06.18 | Elive_user72 | yep |
| 09:06.52 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 09:07.34 | Elive_user72 | just a question .. |
| 09:07.48 | wasynyt | yes |
| 09:08.00 | wasynyt | lets see if i can help |
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| 09:08.22 | Elive_user72 | I don't kown if it's possible top change the sensibility of the virtual screen |
| 09:08.22 | wasynyt | welcome Elive_user85 |
| 09:08.32 | wasynyt | ? |
| 09:09.08 | Elive_user72 | because When my mouse is near the corner of the screen I change to another desktop ... |
| 09:09.15 | wasynyt | ahh |
| 09:09.18 | Elive_user72 | and It's ... |
| 09:09.26 | Elive_user72 | "ç"*ç"34 |
| 09:09.38 | wasynyt | i think it can be adjusted.. but i cant remember how :( |
| 09:09.45 | wasynyt | e17 or e16 |
| 09:09.49 | Elive_user72 | e17 |
| 09:10.16 | wasynyt | try searcing the enlightenment control panel in the e17 menu |
| 09:10.38 | wasynyt | i think it is under system or setup.. or something like that |
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| 09:11.17 | Elive_user72 | ok thks |
| 09:11.26 | wasynyt | your welcome.. |
| 09:11.36 | wasynyt | i hope you find that option |
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| 09:12.42 | Elive_user72 | ok I must go .. |
| 09:12.49 | wasynyt | see you later |
| 09:12.51 | Elive_user72 | thks for your help |
| 09:12.51 | wasynyt | :D |
| 09:13.02 | Elive_user72 | long life to elive |
| 09:13.02 | wasynyt | your welcome |
| 09:13.05 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 09:13.12 | wasynyt | long live elive ! |
| 09:13.49 | Elive_user72 | ok if I come later you can see me with the name of javabien :-) |
| 09:13.56 | Elive_user72 | good bye |
| 09:13.58 | wasynyt | roger that |
| 09:13.59 | wasynyt | :D |
| 09:14.15 | wasynyt | bye |
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| 09:42.03 | Bouba | wasynyt to run a program with wine, i must configure wine, or i should only run it? because i'm able to run only notepad:D. thanks |
| 09:42.26 | wasynyt | huh? |
| 09:42.33 | wasynyt | so you have wine installed ? |
| 09:42.48 | wasynyt | you run programs by wine program.exe |
| 09:43.17 | wasynyt | there is nothing you could actually do to wine to make it work better |
| 09:43.48 | wasynyt | but you can go check winehq.org if the program you want to run is supported by wine |
| 09:43.50 | Bouba | because yesterday i tried to run emule or winamp, but nothing.... |
| 09:44.02 | wasynyt | why run winamp |
| 09:44.17 | Bouba | only to test:) |
| 09:44.24 | wasynyt | :D |
| 09:44.40 | Bouba | 2 programs not very complex to run... |
| 09:44.49 | wasynyt | yeah because there are a lot better applications in mp3playing than winamp |
| 09:45.15 | wasynyt | what application you would really want to run in linux thru wine ? |
| 09:45.24 | wasynyt | or are you jsut bored ? |
| 09:45.27 | wasynyt | *just |
| 09:45.52 | Bouba | bored :D |
| 09:45.56 | wasynyt | :D |
| 09:46.22 | Bouba | wine has always interested:D |
| 09:46.25 | Bouba | me |
| 09:46.34 | wasynyt | i dont care so much about it |
| 09:46.45 | wasynyt | i tend to run native applications |
| 09:47.23 | Bouba | so you told me that i should run the program and all should works well?:D |
| 09:47.38 | Bouba | without configure nothing... |
| 09:48.00 | wasynyt | yeah that is how it should work |
| 09:48.07 | wasynyt | it just does not :/ |
| 09:48.19 | wasynyt | go to #wine for more info |
| 09:48.26 | Bouba | ok thanks:) |
| 09:48.29 | wasynyt | :D |
| 09:48.44 | Bouba | xmms is a good player? |
| 09:48.56 | wasynyt | yeah its pretty solid |
| 09:49.02 | Bouba | ok |
| 09:49.05 | wasynyt | i prefer amarok thou |
| 09:49.20 | wasynyt | it just depends on kde libs :( |
| 09:49.40 | Bouba | it's a problem:D |
| 09:49.46 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 09:50.08 | wasynyt | well what i have noticed it doesnt use so much reasources as it used to |
| 09:50.49 | Bouba | never used... |
| 09:51.24 | wasynyt | well it needs a lot of hd space to install because of those.. but it is excelent player |
| 09:54.45 | Bouba | wasynyt do you use 0.5? |
| 09:54.50 | wasynyt | nope |
| 09:55.26 | wasynyt | suse 10.1 & suse 9.3 and macos x 10.4.6 |
| 09:55.41 | Bouba | not elive?:D |
| 09:55.48 | wasynyt | nope |
| 09:56.07 | wasynyt | i think that it is not ready for me |
| 09:56.30 | Bouba | it's a new distro |
| 09:56.34 | wasynyt | i would like to use e17 but beacause its is not stable enough i will wait |
| 09:56.47 | wasynyt | Bouba i know... |
| 09:56.55 | wasynyt | i have tried it thou |
| 09:57.10 | wasynyt | and i have followed the development few monts now |
| 09:57.20 | wasynyt | its going to right direction |
| 09:57.29 | Bouba | yea |
| 09:57.34 | wasynyt | :D |
| 09:58.03 | Bouba | i whait e17 final.....:D:D:D |
| 09:58.37 | wasynyt | :D |
| 09:58.46 | wasynyt | you will have a long wait |
| 09:58.51 | Bouba | muahahahahah:D |
| 09:59.00 | Bouba | 2010?:D |
| 09:59.01 | wasynyt | i would just want to see it being stable |
| 09:59.09 | wasynyt | probaply |
| 09:59.44 | Bouba | now it's more stable respect 8 months ago |
| 10:00.02 | wasynyt | i can believe that :D |
| 10:00.27 | wasynyt | it must have been something notorious back then |
| 10:04.35 | Bouba | bye wasynyt, o go to eat!;) |
| 10:05.04 | wasynyt | see you later |
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| 10:35.34 | wasynyt | gaad day TuxMeister |
| 10:36.04 | TuxMeister | wasynyt, hey... good day |
| 10:36.28 | wasynyt | how is it going ? |
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| 10:39.17 | TuxMeister | well, not so good |
| 10:39.36 | wasynyt | why ? |
| 10:39.37 | TuxMeister | somewone has done something strange with the elive powered server at school and now it doesn't boot |
| 10:39.46 | wasynyt | humm |
| 10:39.50 | wasynyt | sounds bad |
| 10:40.20 | TuxMeister | i'm trying to edit the menu.lst in the main partition to tell grub where is my elive server so i can boot it, but there's no way to edit that file as real root... stupid knoppix |
| 10:40.31 | wasynyt | humm |
| 10:41.49 | TuxMeister | yeah, it's shitty, i'm gonna kill that guy if i find out who did this to my elive powered server :@ |
| 10:42.20 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 10:42.44 | wasynyt | how is it possible to breake server if one has no correct rights to do so |
| 10:43.20 | TuxMeister | well, he tryed to install something over, and he fucked up my elive grub, and now i can't edit the new one he fixed in |
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| 10:43.29 | TuxMeister | some sort of smart guy tryed to install knoppix in here |
| 10:43.34 | wasynyt | !! |
| 10:43.41 | TuxMeister | i'm back in a while |
| 10:43.45 | wasynyt | knoppix is hardly server os |
| 10:43.49 | wasynyt | ok |
| 10:43.53 | wasynyt | see you later |
| 10:44.09 | TuxMeister | yeah, i know, but i don't think it was installed with server purpouse |
| 10:44.17 | TuxMeister | maybe to screw things up |
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| 11:15.21 | TuxMeister | hey again |
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| 12:35.20 | wasynyt | good afternoon everyone |
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| 12:49.54 | Detox | hello all |
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| 13:10.49 | wasynyt | good afternoon Detox |
| 13:13.08 | Detox | howdy |
| 13:13.24 | Detox | sory for the lag in respoinse am working |
| 13:13.33 | Detox | will be back in jsut a few more minutes |
| 13:13.40 | wasynyt | k |
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| 13:14.52 | wasynyt | good afternoon everyone |
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| 13:33.15 | wasynyt | good afternoon pales_rider |
| 13:33.34 | pales_rider | good morning wasynyt |
| 13:33.48 | wasynyt | good morning |
| 13:34.57 | wasynyt | how are you ? |
| 13:35.08 | pales_rider | fine thanks..how are you? |
| 13:35.14 | wasynyt | i'm fine |
| 13:35.31 | wasynyt | got my desktop comp once more working |
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| 13:35.50 | pales_rider | thats great |
| 13:35.55 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 13:36.08 | pales_rider | im happy for you |
| 13:36.28 | wasynyt | compiz is not as stable as it should be.. or suse devs are not doing what they should |
| 13:36.31 | wasynyt | :D |
| 13:37.42 | pales_rider | :) |
| 13:39.25 | wasynyt | what os are you running |
| 13:39.34 | wasynyt | mepis ? |
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| 13:41.41 | wasynyt | good afternoon GarySaved |
| 13:42.09 | GarySaved | Good Morning! :-) |
| 13:42.20 | wasynyt | good morning :D |
| 13:42.41 | GarySaved | Has anyone made a statement on what is going on with X updating? |
| 13:42.52 | wasynyt | huhu? |
| 13:43.13 | wasynyt | wants hear this |
| 13:43.55 | GarySaved | I downloaded the development version of elive, and if you try to update, it fails because of a dependency. |
| 13:44.02 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 13:44.14 | wasynyt | but isnt the 0.5 stable now |
| 13:44.34 | GarySaved | And was wondering if downloaded the stable would make a difference? |
| 13:44.44 | wasynyt | it could |
| 13:44.59 | GarySaved | It is not a elive thing. It is a Debian thing. |
| 13:45.05 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 13:45.44 | wasynyt | then i think it will not get fixed if it works for debian because our dev is on holiday |
| 13:46.29 | wasynyt | but there is a change that someone here could make a workaround for it |
| 13:46.36 | GarySaved | No. The problem is coming from Debian. It is not something from elive. |
| 13:47.01 | wasynyt | humm |
| 13:47.15 | wasynyt | what depends on what ? |
| 13:47.26 | wasynyt | tell me i want to know |
| 13:49.26 | GarySaved | There is a file called libglu1 |
| 13:49.33 | GarySaved | Search for that. |
| 13:49.43 | GarySaved | (From Synaptic) |
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| 13:50.11 | Elive_user36 | Hello |
| 13:50.35 | wasynyt | good afternoon ThE-maGiCiaN |
| 13:50.40 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | bonjour hello sayonara good afternoon buenas tardes |
| 13:50.41 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | :) |
| 13:51.03 | wasynyt | :D |
| 13:51.05 | wasynyt | paivaa |
| 13:51.31 | GarySaved | I messed up my install, should I download the stable, or development version? |
| 13:51.31 | wasynyt | that seems to be rather important package |
| 13:51.43 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | is there any one there who has installed last version of elive ? |
| 13:51.48 | GarySaved | Yes. Try to update it. |
| 13:52.08 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | Mine seem to install ok, but seemd to write a wrong grub |
| 13:52.12 | wasynyt | well my comp is not running elive.. nor linux |
| 13:52.29 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | what distrib r u using , waynyt ? |
| 13:52.50 | wasynyt | it is not actually even a distribution... macos X |
| 13:53.19 | GarySaved | I am going to have to re-download. I am trying to decide if I should go with stable, or development. I have always likes being on the bleeding-edge. |
| 13:53.49 | wasynyt | well download the the dev livecd and try if it works for you |
| 13:53.50 | wasynyt | :D |
| 13:53.51 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | well, macOs X is quite a closed distribution ;) |
| 13:53.57 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 13:54.04 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | with yellow god components, and mach kernel... |
| 13:54.18 | wasynyt | hmm bsd + mach kernel.... |
| 13:54.38 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | nostalgy... next step :) |
| 13:54.40 | wasynyt | it is a hybrid.. |
| 13:54.43 | wasynyt | :D |
| 13:54.52 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | aaaah an alien :) |
| 13:54.53 | wasynyt | and it is not that good |
| 13:55.01 | wasynyt | but gui is good |
| 13:55.10 | wasynyt | and this not going to be server |
| 13:55.15 | wasynyt | :D |
| 13:55.28 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | well... it feel heavy and slow , also on a recent hardware |
| 13:55.41 | wasynyt | i dont know... |
| 13:55.58 | wasynyt | my laptop feels responsible and speedy enough for me |
| 13:56.04 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | apple has an mac os server ! |
| 13:56.08 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | for enterprises !! |
| 13:56.21 | wasynyt | of course running rosetta apps slow this one down |
| 13:56.22 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | and benchmarks were very good |
| 13:56.29 | wasynyt | well not everyone |
| 13:56.52 | wasynyt | some macosx test have shown opteron smoking powermacs |
| 13:57.01 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | hello, i've some problem to install mac os on my Ti80 |
| 13:57.17 | GarySaved | I guess I will go with development. So nobody has noted the updating failing? (Besides me?) |
| 13:57.18 | wasynyt | really.. that is an suprise ! |
| 13:57.26 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | lol |
| 13:58.02 | wasynyt | GarySaved if it is an issue it will be noted here this evening when most of people come.. |
| 13:58.13 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | i've read that update could make serious bugs |
| 13:58.24 | wasynyt | yeah they can |
| 13:58.28 | Gwildor | dist-upgrade from 0.4.2?? |
| 13:58.32 | wasynyt | not reasently thou |
| 13:58.34 | Gwildor | is that what you guys are talking about?? |
| 13:58.36 | GarySaved | I'll have to come back later. It will be several hours of downloading. |
| 13:58.42 | Gwildor | i have the fix for that |
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| 13:59.09 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | yeah i've a fix on gw-basic with a To7 mach |
| 13:59.13 | GarySaved | No. I had just done a apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade |
| 13:59.14 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | To7 kernel |
| 13:59.27 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | apt-get install amstrad-patch |
| 13:59.30 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | ;) |
| 14:00.06 | wasynyt | what will that do ? |
| 14:00.13 | GarySaved | Anything X depends on that libglu1 package, that can not be replaced without removing everything X related. |
| 14:01.00 | GarySaved | I managed it, but had to lobotomize my system to do it. |
| 14:01.08 | wasynyt | :/' |
| 14:01.17 | wasynyt | does not sound good |
| 14:01.31 | wasynyt | you did not try dist-upgrade first |
| 14:01.48 | Gwildor | guys, check cunnilinux.org |
| 14:01.50 | GarySaved | No. I was told not to do that. |
| 14:01.58 | Gwildor | there is your dist-upgrade answer |
| 14:02.26 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:02.30 | Gwildor | Elive 0.4.2 dist-upgrade fix: aptitude -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=true dist-upgrade |
| 14:02.38 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | what about a distrib like e-live but working not on debian tree, but on arch one ? could be very better , no ? |
| 14:02.38 | GarySaved | I'll try it, and come back. |
| 14:02.45 | Gwildor | aptitude -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=true dist-upgrade |
| 14:03.35 | Gwildor | someone put that in the topic <not like anyone reads it or anything :P |
| 14:04.00 | wasynyt | we need op to do that and there is none here :( |
| 14:04.22 | Gwildor | wasynyt, i thought forsure you have ops |
| 14:04.36 | wasynyt | nope i have never been op here |
| 14:04.53 | Gwildor | yeah, wll, ur ALWAYS here....jsut assumed |
| 14:04.56 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | il l'ont planqué où leur fichu éditeur de grub |
| 14:05.05 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:05.20 | Gwildor | rox @ ops? |
| 14:05.28 | wasynyt | nope |
| 14:05.44 | wasynyt | i think thanatermesis is.. dunno any others |
| 14:07.06 | Gwildor | hmm |
| 14:07.18 | pales_rider | hmm? |
| 14:07.25 | pales_rider | what we thinking about? |
| 14:07.28 | wasynyt | and thana is on holiday |
| 14:07.59 | Gwildor | hope he enjoys it |
| 14:08.05 | wasynyt | i hope so too |
| 14:08.15 | Gwildor | Elive 0.4.2 dist-upgrade fix: aptitude -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=true dist-upgrade <----just copy it down somewhere wasynyt ..... |
| 14:08.17 | Detox | whew! back finally |
| 14:08.43 | Detox | anyone labeled as a boot wizzard? |
| 14:09.53 | wasynyt | ok Gwildor done |
| 14:10.13 | Detox | I have a dell C610 laptop with a broke cdrom the bios will not allow for usb boot,,, any linux boot floppies you know of that will recognize a usb cdrom so I can load the OS? |
| 14:11.34 | Gwildor | debian net-isntall floppies iirc |
| 14:11.47 | Gwildor | but thats to istnall debian.... |
| 14:12.42 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 14:13.12 | Detox | ya hmmm |
| 14:13.30 | Detox | I have a HP external cdrom cdrw usb |
| 14:13.41 | Detox | but the bios will not allow for usb boot |
| 14:13.49 | Detox | only floppy , hd, and netowrk |
| 14:14.06 | Detox | have never done a network boot before |
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| 14:14.31 | Detox | so if i can boot from floppy and have a usb cd recognized , I can load |
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| 14:15.50 | wasynyt | Detox that could be it but i doubt... |
| 14:16.03 | Detox | will try pocket linux |
| 14:16.09 | wasynyt | k |
| 14:16.15 | wasynyt | tell me if it works |
| 14:22.06 | wasynyt | -> food |
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| 14:30.02 | leku | hey |
| 14:30.08 | leku | what version of ;debian comes with elive? |
| 14:30.21 | leku | and has anyone successfully installed xgl with their setup? |
| 14:32.45 | Detox | nope pocket linux will not wrok |
| 14:37.21 | wasynyt | thats too bad |
| 14:37.28 | wasynyt | leky it is debian etch |
| 14:37.34 | wasynyt | *leku |
| 14:38.23 | Detox | the pc has to be able to recognize usb as a boot option |
| 14:38.37 | wasynyt | well should.. |
| 14:41.13 | leku | oh word |
| 14:41.13 | leku | so |
| 14:41.20 | leku | i probably don't need to install anything else then |
| 14:41.30 | leku | brb i'm gonna boot up with kororaa and see if my shit is even compatible |
| 14:41.40 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:42.04 | leku | i got it working on my desktop with nvidia 6200s |
| 14:42.05 | leku | it was beautiful |
| 14:42.18 | leku | it's too bad tho |
| 14:42.24 | leku | cuz elive is dead sexy too |
| 14:42.31 | leku | but like they say |
| 14:42.37 | leku | if you love something, let it go |
| 14:42.40 | leku | if it comes back it was meant to be |
| 14:42.50 | leku | so i will be back to E when they have some XGL shit going |
| 14:42.51 | leku | on |
| 14:42.57 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 14:48.01 | wasynyt | welcome Elive_user |
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| 14:53.48 | _H_ | thanatermesis, los de la revista me estan respondiendo positivamente a lo de poner la portada en el blog, me van a enviar el pdf XD, y me preguntan que qué quiero usar |
| 14:55.32 | wasynyt | _H_ i think that thantermesis is on holiday |
| 14:56.12 | leku | ok |
| 14:56.15 | leku | it won't work on my laptop so |
| 14:56.17 | leku | elive 4 life |
| 14:56.32 | wasynyt | :d |
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| 14:58.42 | wasynyt | good afternoon Raz80 |
| 14:58.51 | wasynyt | welcome back rookmoot |
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| 15:08.31 | leku | http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f98/neflm/emoday.jpg |
| 15:08.57 | wasynyt | :/ |
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| 15:12.01 | wasynyt | good afternoon maxtoo |
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| 15:12.34 | maxtoo | hi ;) |
| 15:12.41 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:13.55 | Elive_user | hello all! anybody know how can i mount drive with freebsd ufs partitions in elive ? |
| 15:14.55 | wasynyt | hunn |
| 15:16.51 | Elive_user | hm |
| 15:17.00 | wasynyt | apt arrest leku |
| 15:17.01 | apt | http://leku.wasarrested.com |
| 15:17.11 | wasynyt | 7me does not work here |
| 15:18.57 | Elive_user | i have 200gb music and cant mount it ! pizdec blya! |
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| 15:23.48 | Elive_user | linux govno blya |
| 15:26.11 | wasynyt | mount /dev/hdb(or any else device) /were/you/want/to/put/it -t ufs should do the trick (remember to run it as root) |
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| 15:31.45 | wasynyt | mount /dev/hdb(or any else device) /were/you/want/to/put/it -t ufs should do the trick (remember to run it as root) |
| 15:34.27 | Mutacion | la! |
| 15:34.29 | Mutacion | la la! |
| 15:34.32 | Mutacion | la la la la la! |
| 15:34.33 | Elive_user | # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 -t ufs |
| 15:34.34 | Mutacion | :P |
| 15:34.34 | Elive_user | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, |
| 15:34.34 | Elive_user | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:34.34 | Elive_user | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:34.34 | Elive_user | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:34.35 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:34.43 | Mutacion | qiuble wasynyt |
| 15:34.45 | Mutacion | ese Elive_user |
| 15:35.06 | wasynyt | Elive_user :S |
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| 15:35.58 | wasynyt | Elive_user are you runing on sata disk |
| 15:36.22 | wasynyt | is elive runing on sata disk |
| 15:36.34 | Elive_user | im on ata and have another disk with freebsd 6.0 on sata |
| 15:37.13 | Elive_user | gparted tell me /dev/sda1 fstype unknown |
| 15:37.15 | wasynyt | are you sure you have sata kernel module loaded |
| 15:37.24 | Elive_user | nop |
| 15:37.25 | Elive_user | %) |
| 15:37.33 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:37.40 | wasynyt | should you try loading it ? |
| 15:37.57 | Elive_user | will try |
| 15:39.14 | wasynyt | GwildorElive 0.4.2 dist-upgrade fix: aptitude -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=true dist-upgrade <----just copy it down somewhere wasynyt ..... |
| 15:39.15 | wasynyt | The standard form of the mount command, is mount -t type device dir |
| 15:39.20 | wasynyt | huh :S |
| 15:39.35 | Gwildor | wha wha? |
| 15:39.44 | wasynyt | The standard form of the mount command, is mount -t type device dir |
| 15:39.49 | wasynyt | dunno.. |
| 15:39.58 | Gwildor | i jsut do <mount /dev/hd**> and let fstab take care of the rest |
| 15:40.15 | wasynyt | that could also do the trick |
| 15:40.21 | wasynyt | if it is in fstab |
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| 15:47.29 | wasynyt | good afternoon pale_horse |
| 15:47.42 | pale_horse | hello wasynyt |
| 15:48.28 | wasynyt | how are you doing ? |
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| 15:48.47 | pale_horse | very well and yourself ? |
| 15:49.02 | pale_horse | seems my isp needed a dns reboot |
| 15:49.04 | pale_horse | brb |
| 15:49.10 | wasynyt | i am fine too... i got my comp working again today |
| 15:49.15 | wasynyt | see later |
| 15:49.18 | pale_horse | excellent |
| 15:49.22 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 15:49.25 | pale_horse | back in 2 or 3 min |
| 15:49.28 | wasynyt | k |
| 15:51.53 | Elive_user | ufs module is loaded |
| 15:52.05 | wasynyt | is sata module loaded |
| 15:52.12 | Elive_user | yep |
| 15:52.17 | Elive_user | yes |
| 15:53.12 | wasynyt | <Gwildor> i jsut do <mount /dev/hd**> and let fstab take care of the rest |
| 15:53.19 | wasynyt | try that |
| 15:53.28 | Elive_user | <wasynyt> if it is in fstab |
| 15:54.04 | wasynyt | i said try it |
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| 15:54.32 | wasynyt | The standard form of the mount command, is mount -t type device dir |
| 15:54.44 | wasynyt | and after it that |
| 15:55.42 | wasynyt | ? |
| 15:55.50 | Mutacion | i want breakfast.. didnt Elive_user was going to make us wasynyt? |
| 15:56.02 | wasynyt | i think not |
| 15:56.16 | Mutacion | buah! :P |
| 15:56.21 | wasynyt | apt make breakefast for Mutacion |
| 15:56.23 | apt | make: *** No rule to make target `breakefast for Mutacion'. Stop. |
| 15:56.35 | Mutacion | hahaha |
| 15:56.41 | wasynyt | apt cook breakefast for Mutacion |
| 15:56.42 | apt | ACTION puts on his apron and fires up the stove. "Your breakefast will be ready in a little while, Mutacion." |
| 15:56.48 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:56.56 | Mutacion | clap clap clap :P |
| 15:57.14 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 15:58.17 | wasynyt | welcome back pale_horse |
| 15:58.32 | wasynyt | good afternoon aduarte |
| 15:58.37 | Elive_user | how about FreeBSD bsize=16384, fsize=2048 and Linux work with bsize=8192, fsize=1024 |
| 15:58.50 | wasynyt | that could be it |
| 15:59.19 | Elive_user | and linux say wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/ |
| 15:59.30 | Elive_user | i think |
| 15:59.49 | pale_horse | ty wasynyt |
| 16:00.01 | Elive_user | im go to freebsd wit e16 forever |
| 16:00.07 | Elive_user | good luck |
| 16:00.23 | wasynyt | Elive_usermount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, |
| 16:00.23 | wasynyt | Elive_user missing codepage or other error |
| 16:00.24 | wasynyt | Elive_user In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try |
| 16:00.24 | wasynyt | Elive_user dmesg | tail or so |
| 16:00.39 | wasynyt | any ideas pale_horse |
| 16:01.12 | pale_horse | what is sda1 ? |
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| 16:01.28 | wasynyt | sata disk with freebsd on it |
| 16:02.00 | pale_horse | no 'fraid I can't help.. I never had any sata drives |
| 16:02.20 | wasynyt | :/ |
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| 16:05.04 | wasynyt | good afternoon kiwi_ |
| 16:05.18 | kiwi_ | hi =) |
| 16:05.27 | wasynyt | :D |
| 16:06.24 | Mutacion | qiubole kiwi_ |
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| 16:50.04 | Bouba | hello to all!:) |
| 16:50.37 | Mutacion | qiubole Bouba ` |
| 16:50.54 | Bouba | means hello?:D |
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| 16:51.42 | Mutacion | yeah :) |
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| 16:57.30 | aduarte | jaja |
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| 17:12.01 | wasynyt | anything happening here |
| 17:12.12 | wasynyt | and good evening to everyone |
| 17:12.54 | Bouba | remember this morning?.....6/6/6?......well......ALL DEAD!:D |
| 17:13.13 | Bouba | hi wasynyt!:D |
| 17:13.40 | wasynyt | argh... curses |
| 17:13.41 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:14.59 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:15.15 | wasynyt | but seriously is here anyone awake |
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| 17:16.00 | Bouba | no:D |
| 17:16.07 | wasynyt | good evening adamant1988 |
| 17:16.14 | adamant1988 | Hello wasynyt |
| 17:16.23 | wasynyt | there is at least on emore survivor |
| 17:16.29 | wasynyt | *one more |
| 17:16.32 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:16.36 | adamant1988 | what do you mean wasynyt? |
| 17:17.01 | Bouba | 6/6/6 :D |
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| 17:17.11 | adamant1988 | 6/6/06 |
| 17:17.18 | Bouba | ;) |
| 17:17.18 | adamant1988 | sorry the 0 ruins your number =\ |
| 17:17.19 | wasynyt | good evening zatrapa |
| 17:17.19 | zatrapa | hi people |
| 17:17.33 | zatrapa | what's up wasynyt |
| 17:17.33 | Bouba | hi! |
| 17:17.37 | zatrapa | hi Bouba |
| 17:17.46 | adamant1988 | one more survivor of what wasynyt? |
| 17:18.12 | zatrapa | elive supports 64 bits? |
| 17:18.20 | wasynyt | on this day |
| 17:18.27 | adamant1988 | oh |
| 17:18.27 | wasynyt | zatrapa not yet |
| 17:18.46 | adamant1988 | idk, I'm installing Ubuntu on my desktop |
| 17:18.46 | wasynyt | there is plans but no equipment :/ |
| 17:18.57 | zatrapa | :( |
| 17:19.15 | adamant1988 | be back in a few |
| 17:19.54 | leku | on my desktop |
| 17:19.59 | leku | gotta have XGL i think |
| 17:20.18 | wasynyt | zatrapa if you know any way to get new 64 bit computer to thanatermesis we would apprisiate it |
| 17:20.40 | wasynyt | leku i had xgl.. it broke down three times on me... |
| 17:20.42 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 17:20.48 | leku | damn |
| 17:20.54 | leku | i ran the kororaa live cd and it worked great |
| 17:20.59 | leku | i have 2 nvidia 6200s |
| 17:21.08 | leku | trying to see if xgl will support both at the same time |
| 17:21.13 | leku | but hey |
| 17:21.17 | leku | i know a way to get than a 64bit machine |
| 17:21.29 | leku | the folks at OSDL might be able to hook him up with some time on it |
| 17:21.37 | leku | but then again maybe they're too busy with other projects |
| 17:22.25 | wasynyt | leku we are intrested.. please tell that to roxville when he arrives |
| 17:22.59 | leku | k |
| 17:23.12 | leku | i'm friends with bruce perens, i'll ask him once i talk to roxv |
| 17:23.46 | wasynyt | ok.. thank you very much |
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| 17:24.03 | wasynyt | welcome back adamant1988 |
| 17:24.09 | adamant1988 | Thanks :) |
| 17:24.15 | wasynyt | good evening gagarine |
| 17:24.20 | adamant1988 | I'm in my dapper drake install now... I'm really happy with it wasynyt |
| 17:25.09 | wasynyt | thats good to hear |
| 17:25.28 | gagarine | wasynyt: thanks |
| 17:25.43 | leku | why? |
| 17:25.50 | leku | you know |
| 17:26.00 | leku | i think than should be building elive on top of ubuntu anyways |
| 17:26.37 | wasynyt | dont say that |
| 17:26.43 | leku | why not? |
| 17:26.45 | wasynyt | you will banned for ever here |
| 17:26.45 | leku | it's just debian |
| 17:26.48 | leku | lol |
| 17:26.52 | leku | ces les vie |
| 17:27.07 | wasynyt | thana will eat you for claiming something like that |
| 17:27.08 | dererk | Ubuntu is not Debian. That's an insult! |
| 17:27.15 | leku | what do you mean |
| 17:27.18 | leku | it's based on debain |
| 17:27.19 | gagarine | dererk: bercerfull... |
| 17:27.21 | leku | it uses apt |
| 17:27.35 | dererk | If thata were here he would already put you in a ban. |
| 17:27.46 | dererk | apt, x en es bercerfull |
| 17:27.59 | gagarine | dererk: Yes ubuntu is not compatible debian... thats the problem |
| 17:28.16 | dererk | Ubuntu is not Debian. That's an insult! |
| 17:28.30 | gagarine | no debian -> no ubuntu.... |
| 17:28.50 | dererk | As Ubuntu have different packages. Then, Ubuntu != Debian |
| 17:28.54 | dererk | So, Fuck Ubuntu all! |
| 17:29.01 | wasynyt | so leku please dont claim such things here |
| 17:29.03 | dererk | And stop mentioning it please. |
| 17:29.25 | adamant1988 | 0_o... |
| 17:29.26 | dererk | wasynyt, Hi, by the way |
| 17:29.38 | wasynyt | good evening dererk |
| 17:29.39 | leku | well fine.. sorry |
| 17:29.45 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 17:29.49 | adamant1988 | Dubya tee eff... |
| 17:29.52 | dererk | wasynyt, afternoon, hehe |
| 17:29.54 | wasynyt | you could not know |
| 17:30.54 | wasynyt | you can discuss more about ubuntu with thana when he comes back |
| 17:31.00 | dererk | wasynyt, see you then |
| 17:31.18 | wasynyt | dererk yeah |
| 17:31.41 | wasynyt | roxville uses ubuntu so you can talk it with him |
| 17:31.52 | adamant1988 | ... I use it now too |
| 17:32.00 | wasynyt | no need to |
| 17:32.06 | wasynyt | we wont hunt you down |
| 17:32.07 | gagarine | I see on the trac you need a php script for notice release... |
| 17:32.19 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 17:32.33 | adamant1988 | I'm just glad dererk doesn't have the mod powers 0_0 |
| 17:32.42 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:32.47 | gagarine | Juste put des @ mail on a cvs file is ok??? |
| 17:32.47 | wasynyt | wonder why |
| 17:32.57 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 17:33.01 | gagarine | not cvs.. |
| 17:33.07 | gagarine | csv?? |
| 17:33.12 | gagarine | ;;;; file |
| 17:33.14 | gagarine | lol |
| 17:33.22 | dererk | adamant1988, don't claim to be. I have, but I didn't request it yet. |
| 17:33.47 | dererk | you want to use it. Great! But don't mention that topics here. |
| 17:34.24 | adamant1988 | I'm just noting that if I go into the Ubuntu and say elive, they're not gonna flip. |
| 17:34.57 | adamant1988 | actually that's the first time I've seen a reaction like that to mentioning another distro... |
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| 17:35.13 | wasynyt | adamant we flip when some says ubuntu is the same as debian |
| 17:35.24 | adamant1988 | Oh, well, I didn't say that |
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| 17:35.55 | dererk | adamant1988, RESPECT ELIVE USERS PLEASE |
| 17:36.04 | dererk | I won't say it again |
| 17:36.07 | Mutacion | pinche dererk |
| 17:36.08 | Mutacion | callate |
| 17:36.09 | Mutacion | :P |
| 17:36.19 | adamant1988 | I do respect elive users. |
| 17:36.24 | wasynyt | plus dererk is the hot head here |
| 17:36.25 | Mutacion | hey ppl.. stop stop |
| 17:36.40 | dererk | Then don't mention it |
| 17:36.44 | wasynyt | we are not killing any one its just that its the evil day |
| 17:36.46 | dererk | It's un insult |
| 17:36.52 | dererk | s/un/an/ |
| 17:36.52 | Mutacion | shut up! ppl |
| 17:36.53 | Mutacion | shu |
| 17:37.09 | Mutacion | everythngs ok |
| 17:37.15 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 17:37.37 | adamant1988 | ok, so nachos, who likes nachos? |
| 17:37.57 | Mutacion | i want tacos |
| 17:38.06 | adamant1988 | I could actually go for some Italian. |
| 17:38.11 | wasynyt | i could too |
| 17:38.23 | Mutacion | i dont have money |
| 17:38.26 | adamant1988 | But I work at a subway so I can get myself a pizza sub if I want it |
| 17:38.35 | wasynyt | :D |
| 17:38.37 | Mutacion | subway sucks!! |
| 17:38.48 | adamant1988 | says you, I think the subs rock :) |
| 17:38.53 | Mutacion | is very xpensive and it dosent have delicious things |
| 17:38.56 | adamant1988 | I work at Wendys too now.. |
| 17:39.06 | adamant1988 | Hey don't complain to me I get the food free |
| 17:39.17 | wasynyt | thats pretty good argument |
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| 17:39.25 | dererk | indeed |
| 17:39.28 | wasynyt | good evening pale_horse |
| 17:39.37 | pale_horse | hello was |
| 17:39.40 | adamant1988 | lol. George Bush |
| 17:39.42 | pale_horse | wasynyt, |
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| 17:40.54 | wasynyt | goes away for few min |
| 17:44.25 | wasynyt | back |
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| 17:59.09 | wasynyt | pale_horse you have some problems? |
| 17:59.33 | pale_horse | yes - my isp has issues |
| 17:59.39 | wasynyt | really |
| 17:59.44 | wasynyt | thats serious |
| 17:59.47 | pale_horse | not my systems, my connection |
| 17:59.56 | wasynyt | :S |
| 18:00.05 | pale_horse | it's the only game in town I'm afraid |
| 18:00.17 | wasynyt | no quality control |
| 18:00.20 | wasynyt | ? |
| 18:00.37 | coyote10 | how can i permissions to script in bash run since place? |
| 18:00.39 | pale_horse | 1 man shop for a wireless broadband network |
| 18:00.49 | coyote10 | how can i permissions to script in bash run since any place? |
| 18:00.57 | adamant1988 | Wow pale_horse... that sucks... |
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| 18:01.09 | pale_horse | chmod +x [scriptname] |
| 18:01.21 | wasynyt | good evening Kalmm |
| 18:01.24 | pale_horse | mv [scriptname] /usr/bin |
| 18:01.38 | Kalmm | Oo |
| 18:02.00 | Kalmm | euh.... you too |
| 18:02.12 | wasynyt | pale_horse so 1 man takes care every internet connection on your town ? |
| 18:02.25 | pale_horse | several towns actually |
| 18:02.29 | wasynyt | ! |
| 18:02.40 | pale_horse | only wireless broadband |
| 18:02.48 | pale_horse | he owns several towers |
| 18:02.50 | Kalmm | with 64rams, do you think it is possible to install elive ( I could add ram only for the installation) |
| 18:03.17 | wasynyt | it should be possible if you run e16 and have swap |
| 18:03.56 | Kalmm | hum, but e17 looks so better |
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| 18:04.06 | wasynyt | its only for installation |
| 18:04.17 | wasynyt | you can run e17 later on |
| 18:04.28 | Kalmm | cool |
| 18:04.30 | wasynyt | it is just that e16 is lot lighter on resources |
| 18:04.47 | wasynyt | what processor you have |
| 18:04.47 | Kalmm | will final 0.5 be released soon |
| 18:04.54 | Kalmm | P2350 |
| 18:05.07 | Kalmm | P2 350MHZ |
| 18:05.18 | wasynyt | well our main dev is away on a holiday.. after that i guess |
| 18:05.48 | wasynyt | Kalmm i would go for e16 at least install |
| 18:06.07 | Kalmm | ?? |
| 18:06.42 | wasynyt | i mean that i would use e16 when i install the system and after that i would try e17 it works well or not |
| 18:07.08 | Kalmm | ok |
| 18:07.22 | Kalmm | so it keeps having bugs |
| 18:07.29 | wasynyt | e17 yes |
| 18:07.38 | wasynyt | and 0.5 probably |
| 18:08.04 | wasynyt | but if it works well go ahead |
| 18:08.12 | wasynyt | and install |
| 18:08.36 | Kalmm | it's so good looking, I can accept bugs |
| 18:08.46 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:08.58 | Kalmm | hope my friends will ( i install it for them) |
| 18:09.09 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:09.22 | wasynyt | lets hope so... |
| 18:09.36 | wasynyt | you may have to visit them often after it :D |
| 18:10.15 | Detox | am getting the sys req now |
| 18:10.29 | wasynyt | Detox ? |
| 18:10.49 | wasynyt | you meant system requirments ? |
| 18:11.03 | wasynyt | ?+? |
| 18:11.35 | Bouba | i've elive 0.4 on a 486:D |
| 18:11.35 | wasynyt | ??? |
| 18:11.43 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:11.56 | wasynyt | nice |
| 18:12.00 | Bouba | ;) |
| 18:12.18 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:12.25 | wasynyt | e16 ? |
| 18:12.32 | Bouba | both |
| 18:12.34 | wasynyt | works well |
| 18:13.12 | Bouba | yes:) |
| 18:13.19 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:14.19 | wasynyt | system requirments : minimium 486, recomended 500 - 1000 mhz |
| 18:14.36 | wasynyt | screams on 2 ghz |
| 18:14.46 | Bouba | i started use elive for speed:) |
| 18:14.58 | Bouba | respect kde and gnome elive FLYYYYY!!!!!:D |
| 18:15.07 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 18:15.38 | Bouba | on a p2 300 is quite perfect:) |
| 18:15.50 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:16.13 | Bouba | i love e for: SPEED and THEMES!:D |
| 18:16.25 | wasynyt | hmm |
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| 18:16.49 | wasynyt | welcome Elive_user |
| 18:17.02 | wasynyt | :( |
| 18:17.14 | Bouba | eheheheh |
| 18:17.15 | Bouba | :D |
| 18:17.17 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:17.46 | Bouba | you make fear |
| 18:17.50 | Bouba | :D |
| 18:17.52 | Bouba | ihihih |
| 18:18.05 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 18:20.18 | Bouba | see you later wasynyt!i go to eat:D |
| 18:20.20 | Bouba | bye all! |
| 18:20.21 | Bouba | ;) |
| 18:20.26 | wasynyt | see you later |
| 18:21.25 | wasynyt | ok i will go to sleep.. see you all tomorrow |
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| 18:28.11 | Detox | sorr5y yes was looking for fasq on system req and got inturrupted by phone |
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| 18:42.42 | pale_horse | oh and happy 666 |
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| 19:16.32 | MetaPhaze | hello everyone |
| 19:17.02 | Detox | hello |
| 19:17.18 | MetaPhaze | anyone here know how to make the snap to edge and snap to window a little more snappy? |
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| 21:04.26 | *** topic/#elive is Need Help? New official Documentation site for Elive: http://wiki.elivecd.org || Join the Elive community: http://wiki.elivecd.org/community any volonteer for make better this drupal site ? || Check #e #e.fr #e.es #e.de #e.it Enlightenment channels || The developement of 0.5 is in pure hard and fast work! |
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| 21:04.54 | MetaPhaze | if i didn't have so many projects already started i WOULD help you GPLGeek |
| 21:05.15 | GPLGeek | What kills me is I have done this before in ruby |
| 21:05.20 | GPLGeek | I just dont remember how |
| 21:05.28 | GPLGeek | it's ok. |
| 21:05.52 | GPLGeek | I'm thinking maybe elive can ship with firefox with adblock and some default filters |
| 21:06.00 | GPLGeek | I have a good filter list |
| 21:06.24 | MetaPhaze | cool |
| 21:07.45 | GPLGeek | the idea is to block it for whole networks or whole workstations |
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| 21:29.33 | Elive_drknnja | alguien que hable español ??? |
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| 21:36.32 | GPLGeek | any spanish speakers in? |
| 21:36.35 | GPLGeek | My spanish sucks |
| 21:36.48 | Detox | no spanish here |
| 21:37.38 | GPLGeek | Hola Elive_drknnja , Hablo un poco Español |
| 21:37.50 | GPLGeek | Los otros son AFK |
| 21:38.41 | Elive_drknnja | ;) |
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| 21:38.58 | unduality | I tried to dist-upgrade in synaptic and this happens: E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package libglu1-xorg due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
| 21:38.58 | unduality | E: Internal Error, Could not early remove libglu1-xorg |
| 21:39.15 | unduality | Does this happen to you too? |
| 21:39.16 | Elive_drknnja | GPLGeek, i have a problem with modem us robotics |
| 21:39.33 | Elive_drknnja | elpanel detect modem but |
| 21:39.45 | Elive_drknnja | ifconfig dont see interface ppp= |
| 21:39.48 | Elive_drknnja | ppp0 |
| 21:40.25 | GPLGeek | You have to specify it's com status |
| 21:40.34 | GPLGeek | is the us robotics modem a winmodem? |
| 21:40.39 | GPLGeek | most winmodems have problems |
| 21:40.54 | Elive_drknnja | GPLGeek, no is not a winmodem |
| 21:41.00 | Elive_drknnja | is a modem jumpeable |
| 21:41.07 | Elive_drknnja | i set irq 3 |
| 21:41.13 | GPLGeek | First COM1 /dev/ttyS0 03F8 4 |
| 21:41.13 | GPLGeek | Second COM2 /dev/ttyS1 02F8 3 |
| 21:41.13 | GPLGeek | Third COM3 /dev/ttyS2 03E8 4 |
| 21:41.13 | GPLGeek | Fourth COM4 /dev/ttyS3 02E8 3 |
| 21:41.14 | Elive_drknnja | and com 2 |
| 21:41.22 | Elive_drknnja | yes |
| 21:41.29 | GPLGeek | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.34 | Elive_drknnja | elive detect it automatic |
| 21:41.34 | GPLGeek | is that set? |
| 21:41.48 | Elive_drknnja | /dev/ttys2 ...or com 4 |
| 21:41.53 | Elive_drknnja | /dev/ttys2 ...or com 3 |
| 21:42.37 | Elive_drknnja | its set /dev/ttys2 |
| 21:42.48 | Elive_drknnja | no conflicts |
| 21:42.58 | Elive_drknnja | but if i exec ifconfig |
| 21:43.06 | Elive_drknnja | i only view loopback |
| 21:43.10 | Elive_drknnja | 127.0.0.1 |
| 21:43.20 | GPLGeek | I think if the modem port is set and you enable the connection you could just put in username/pass |
| 21:43.21 | Elive_drknnja | and eth0 |
| 21:43.36 | GPLGeek | beyond that It's hard for me to know because i have not used modems in a long time |
| 21:43.55 | GPLGeek | http://www.aboutdebian.com/modems.htm -there is info here, maybe I could find a spanish version |
| 21:43.56 | Elive_drknnja | ok GPLGeek no problem,..thanks |
| 21:44.27 | GPLGeek | I'm thinking it's /dev/ttyS1 you need to try |
| 21:44.32 | GPLGeek | or maybe try to switch the IRQ's |
| 21:44.52 | GPLGeek | I think you probably know what you are doing between bios and modem. |
| 21:45.03 | Elive_drknnja | ok i try |
| 21:45.13 | GPLGeek | sometimes its just /dev/modem |
| 21:45.21 | Elive_drknnja | yes |
| 21:45.28 | Elive_drknnja | simbolic link |
| 21:46.17 | unduality | Can someone please answer me? |
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| 21:52.29 | GPLGeek | unduality, I can answer that dist-upgrade is not a supported feature of elive |
| 21:52.50 | GPLGeek | and the warnings state that it will break X, remove elements that E needs, and other stuff |
| 21:53.21 | GPLGeek | It might work for some people mainly depending on the day and the state of the tree but... |
| 21:53.40 | GPLGeek | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.50 | GPLGeek | as it wont break your system and will get you the latest supported packages |
| 21:54.10 | Detox | being a novice I concur with GPL |
| 21:54.23 | Detox | dist-upgrade leads to big disaster |
| 21:54.42 | GPLGeek | people do not understand what dist-upgrade really is |
| 21:54.52 | GPLGeek | we are already in etch, dist upgrad to what? |
| 21:55.17 | GPLGeek | you want to live in the most unstable branch? |
| 21:55.56 | GPLGeek | you can dist upgrade from sarge to etch for example |
| 21:56.09 | GPLGeek | from etch what do you want to dist-upgrade to |
| 21:56.27 | GPLGeek | elive has some specifics that should not be changed |
| 21:56.59 | Detox | examples? |
| 21:57.17 | Detox | elpanel? |
| 21:57.23 | GPLGeek | no |
| 21:58.06 | Detox | oooOOOOOO!!!! |
| 21:58.14 | GPLGeek | dist-upgrade is to go from version to version |
| 21:58.26 | GPLGeek | but you can't upgrade from .4.2 to .5 because we changed base |
| 21:58.33 | GPLGeek | the base of .5 is now dss, a better system |
| 22:00.05 | GPLGeek | dist-upgrade = upgrade packages, possibly remove or add needed packages, potential system breakage. It should only be performed if you are testing a distribution or if you are upgrading to the next version. If upgrading to the next version of a linux distro then the repos might have to be changed. |
| 22:01.22 | GPLGeek | And some versions wont let you upgrade to it. For example , changes in the base of a distro make it almost impossible to dist-upgrade. |
| 22:01.32 | unduality | thanx for explaining the difference between "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" and "dist-upgrade" I thought theese two things was the same thing. |
| 22:01.38 | GPLGeek | That's what im going to post in fact, that's the best explanation i have found |
| 22:02.52 | Detox | yes, this would be a good thing, posting this |
| 22:03.18 | Detox | it would save many headaches for new folks |
| 22:03.27 | Detox | IF they read it! |
| 22:04.30 | Detox | hey GPL ,, my elive .5 locks in the final stage of install on this dell laptop I have a pcmia wireless nic card in it do you think this is causing it to lock? |
| 22:05.12 | GPLGeek | http://elivedev.org/ - I blogged it =) |
| 22:05.23 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 22:06.33 | GPLGeek | Detox, Seems a lot of dells have problems mainly when the grub boot loader is installed. Locking up near the end of the install could be caused by a few things |
| 22:06.39 | GPLGeek | what graphic card do you have? |
| 22:06.44 | GPLGeek | and what driver are you using |
| 22:06.45 | Detox | i815 |
| 22:06.57 | GPLGeek | Oh those bastards... i800 has problems. |
| 22:07.05 | Detox | yup |
| 22:07.08 | GPLGeek | We dont know why |
| 22:07.12 | Detox | booted in safe mode |
| 22:07.27 | GPLGeek | Can you use vesa or anything? |
| 22:07.29 | Detox | should I switch to vesa and start over? |
| 22:07.41 | Detox | will try it |
| 22:07.42 | GPLGeek | if it lets you |
| 22:07.48 | Detox | ok |
| 22:07.48 | GPLGeek | you might get the 5600 bug |
| 22:07.55 | Detox | huhu? |
| 22:08.12 | GPLGeek | strange ass bug |
| 22:08.32 | GPLGeek | (EE) 5600 |
| 22:08.35 | GPLGeek | thats all it says |
| 22:08.41 | Detox | ahh |
| 22:08.43 | GPLGeek | and it makes no sense to the X people |
| 22:08.46 | Detox | debian goes fine |
| 22:08.49 | Detox | and LN goes fine |
| 22:08.53 | GPLGeek | they say there is no way it could have outputteed that |
| 22:09.09 | GPLGeek | bleeeat my typing sucks |
| 22:09.11 | GPLGeek | at this angle |
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| 22:09.43 | Detox | ahh wait,,,, |
| 22:10.03 | Detox | in LN ,, with the i810 video there is a command line for it |
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| 22:10.14 | thybo | yoooo |
| 22:10.18 | Detox | will paste it here since it is debian based and let fme know if i can use it |
| 22:10.18 | thybo | how is everyyboddyyyy |
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| 22:11.15 | Detox | how about this or adapting it??? |
| 22:11.19 | Detox | 26std loadmodule=agpgart;intel-agp;intel-mch-agp |
| 22:11.38 | LinuxNIT-II | dererk, what is this for? |
| 22:11.43 | LinuxNIT-II | Detox, |
| 22:11.46 | Detox | what ya think? |
| 22:11.55 | LinuxNIT-II | 26std is part of LN3's kernel name |
| 22:12.01 | Detox | work around for i80 video with debian |
| 22:12.05 | Elive_user | hi all! anyone use opera? |
| 22:12.17 | LinuxNIT-II | hi Elive_user |
| 22:13.32 | Elive_user | i've installed opera but i can't start it... |
| 22:14.14 | LinuxNIT-II | how did you install? |
| 22:14.23 | Elive_user | apt |
| 22:15.49 | LinuxNIT-II | Elive_user, open synaptic |
| 22:16.24 | Elive_user | done |
| 22:16.31 | LinuxNIT-II | Elive_user, do you just need to know what command to use to start the program? |
| 22:16.45 | Elive_user | yea |
| 22:16.47 | LinuxNIT-II | ok |
| 22:16.55 | LinuxNIT-II | search for opera. right click on it. and go to propertise |
| 22:17.15 | LinuxNIT-II | then look under the tab that says "installed files" |
| 22:17.26 | LinuxNIT-II | look for a file in /usr/bin/ |
| 22:17.39 | LinuxNIT-II | that should be the command you type to start it |
| 22:17.54 | Elive_user | thanks now i try:) |
| 22:18.05 | GPLGeek | http://wiki.elivecd.org/community/en/wiki/dist_upgrade |
| 22:18.06 | LinuxNIT-II | np |
| 22:18.17 | GPLGeek | its on the community blog wiki now |
| 22:18.52 | Elive_user | umm.....doesn't works |
| 22:18.53 | LinuxNIT-II | GPLGeek, what do you think of having elive start FF after the first login after the install and takeing them to a page on the HD that tells them basic info? |
| 22:19.04 | GPLGeek | Detox, it might work since this is debian etch |
| 22:19.30 | Detox | ok use it as listed or leave off the 26std |
| 22:20.21 | Elive_user | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.51 | LinuxNIT-II | Elive_user, it starts with just opera from the command line |
| 22:20.55 | LinuxNIT-II | i jsut did it |
| 22:21.00 | Elive_user | no |
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| 22:21.27 | Elive_user | i don't wnow but doesn't works... |
| 22:21.45 | LinuxNIT-II | whats it say? |
| 22:22.07 | Elive_user | command not found |
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| 22:22.22 | LinuxNIT-II | apt-get install opera |
| 22:22.29 | LinuxNIT-II | whats that say? |
| 22:23.24 | Elive_user | a strange thinks.... E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 22:23.24 | Elive_user | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
| 22:23.34 | LinuxNIT-II | close synaptic |
| 22:23.41 | Elive_user | :D |
| 22:23.43 | Elive_user | ups |
| 22:23.44 | LinuxNIT-II | ;) |
| 22:24.17 | Elive_user | opera is already installed |
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| 22:25.18 | LinuxNIT-II | ls /usr/bin/ | grep era |
| 22:25.42 | Elive_user | opera |
| 22:26.06 | LinuxNIT-II | type that word and that word only int the command line |
| 22:26.17 | LinuxNIT-II | as user |
| 22:26.21 | LinuxNIT-II | not root |
| 22:26.37 | LinuxNIT-II | dont run webbrowsers as root |
| 22:27.01 | Elive_user | in user mode -> opera |
| 22:27.22 | LinuxNIT-II | yes |
| 22:27.24 | Elive_user | mclasserase |
| 22:27.40 | Elive_user | it's all |
| 22:27.43 | LinuxNIT-II | as user from the command line just type: |
| 22:27.44 | LinuxNIT-II | opera |
| 22:27.56 | Elive_user | bash: opera: command not found |
| 22:28.06 | LinuxNIT-II | wtf |
| 22:28.18 | Elive_user | i must restart the pc? |
| 22:28.29 | LinuxNIT-II | try : |
| 22:28.33 | LinuxNIT-II | /usr/bin/opera |
| 22:28.48 | Elive_user | bash: /usr/bin/opera: No such file or directory |
| 22:28.53 | LinuxNIT-II | bs |
| 22:29.12 | Elive_user | ? |
| 22:29.34 | LinuxNIT-II | hmm |
| 22:29.46 | Elive_user | maybe i've fucked elive.. so doesn't works |
| 22:30.01 | LinuxNIT-II | cd /usr/bin |
| 22:30.12 | Elive_user | ok |
| 22:30.23 | LinuxNIT-II | ./ope |
| 22:30.26 | LinuxNIT-II | then hit tab |
| 22:30.32 | LinuxNIT-II | twice |
| 22:30.43 | Elive_user | ./open |
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| 22:30.54 | LinuxNIT-II | ls | grep opera |
| 22:30.54 | Elive_user | no opera...:( |
| 22:31.14 | Elive_user | i try to reinstall? |
| 22:31.20 | LinuxNIT-II | ls | grep opera |
| 22:31.29 | LinuxNIT-II | is it there? |
| 22:31.35 | Elive_user | opera |
| 22:31.42 | LinuxNIT-II | ls -al | grep opera |
| 22:31.49 | LinuxNIT-II | paste the line with opera in it |
| 22:31.52 | LinuxNIT-II | just one line |
| 22:32.02 | Elive_user | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2006-06-06 23:21 opera -> ../../bin/opera |
| 22:32.31 | Detox | got to go folks cya tomorrow!! |
| 22:32.33 | LinuxNIT-II | Elive_user, i guess you could reinstall... idunno |
| 22:32.44 | LinuxNIT-II | GPLGeek, any ideas? |
| 22:32.47 | LinuxNIT-II | this is weird |
| 22:33.02 | Elive_user | :) thanks for the support |
| 22:33.24 | LinuxNIT-II | opera is in /usr/bin/ but wont execute... says file not found. |
| 22:34.14 | LinuxNIT-II | hm you line looks dif than mine |
| 22:34.15 | GPLGeek | chmod /user/bin/opera to 777 |
| 22:34.24 | LinuxNIT-II | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5849 2006-02-08 11:28 opera |
| 22:34.31 | LinuxNIT-II | heh i was gettting ready for that |
| 22:34.35 | LinuxNIT-II | GPLGeek, what is the l? |
| 22:35.19 | LinuxNIT-II | ah well i gtg help my bro with mower |
| 22:35.20 | LinuxNIT-II | cyall |
| 22:35.25 | GPLGeek | I dont use opera but I know some people here do |
| 22:35.29 | GPLGeek | and have not had problems |
| 22:35.51 | GPLGeek | I know one guy said that his opera was installed into /opt |
| 22:37.24 | Elive_user | bye all i go sleep:) |
| 22:37.47 | GPLGeek | deb http://deb.opera.com/opera $RELEASE non-free apt-get update && apt-get install opera |
| 22:38.42 | GPLGeek | if it exists, then force the install |
| 22:38.47 | Elive_user | i've used this: deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ testing non-free |
| 22:39.28 | GPLGeek | did you use apt-get or just download and dpkg -i? |
| 22:39.35 | Elive_user | apt |
| 22:39.36 | GPLGeek | if you use apt-get it will resolve the 5 depends |
| 22:39.39 | GPLGeek | hmm |
| 22:39.59 | GPLGeek | apt-get remove and then do it agin |
| 22:40.01 | GPLGeek | and see |
| 22:40.04 | Elive_user | ok |
| 22:40.15 | GPLGeek | maybe chmod the file to 777 if that does not work |
| 22:40.26 | GPLGeek | after that I dont know |
| 22:41.42 | Elive_user | nothing |
| 22:45.01 | Elive_user | bye i go! |
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| 22:58.40 | pyc | hello :) all |
| 23:00.18 | goldstein | hllo |
| 23:00.40 | pyc | hello goldstein :) |
| 23:00.46 | goldstein | :) |
| 23:02.07 | pyc | goldstein, do you know any good and free ftp servers? that i can upload some files? |
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| 23:02.25 | goldstein | no pyc, sorry:/ |
| 23:02.30 | thybo | i'm back on da air :p |
| 23:02.42 | pyc | ok, np :) |
| 23:02.54 | thybo | had strange problems with a switch :) |
| 23:03.33 | pyc | thybo, do you know any ftp servers? thats free? |
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| 23:42.47 | mefistofeles | hey |
| 23:42.57 | Mutacion | qiubole mefistofeles |
| 23:43.25 | mefistofeles | que mas? |
| 23:43.32 | mefistofeles | como va todo por aca? |
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