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| 00:32.12 | LinuxNIT-II | oops |
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| 00:33.16 | LinuxNIT-II | howdy pales_rider |
| 00:33.33 | pales_rider | well hello linusNIT |
| 00:33.36 | pales_rider | lol |
| 00:33.46 | pales_rider | ok ok linuxNIT |
| 00:33.51 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 00:33.55 | LinuxNIT-II | LinuxNIT-II, actually |
| 00:34.08 | pales_rider | yes i see...wasnt one of you enough? |
| 00:34.42 | LinuxNIT-II | nope |
| 00:34.49 | pales_rider | the more the better |
| 00:35.48 | pales_rider | how are you doing? |
| 00:36.01 | LinuxNIT-II | pretty good and you |
| 00:36.02 | LinuxNIT-II | ? |
| 00:38.56 | pales_rider | im fine thanks |
| 00:39.14 | pales_rider | thought i just blew away my comp but its ok.i almost freaked |
| 00:40.03 | pales_rider | i still got my purple carpet ..lol |
| 00:40.35 | pales_rider | brb |
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| 00:58.24 | GPLGeek | so im on my windows machine testing a mono app and mind you i'm a pro when it comes to windows, certified and all, and freaking explorer crashes! ROFL. Right after somone tells me that windows is more stable. Ya right lol |
| 00:59.11 | adamant1988 | What? |
| 00:59.13 | GPLGeek | So now I'm thinking cross platform development is useless because you can't actually use programs in windows, you can just TRY to use them ROFL. |
| 00:59.20 | adamant1988 | who on earth would claim windows to be more stable... |
| 00:59.47 | adamant1988 | Oh BTW GPLGeek I'm using Ubuntu now, thanks a TON for the suggestion |
| 00:59.51 | adamant1988 | It's AWESOME. |
| 01:00.24 | GPLGeek | elive is still better |
| 01:00.30 | mefistofeles | yeah |
| 01:00.43 | GPLGeek | except for the minor problems of login/out |
| 01:00.56 | adamant1988 | what's that? |
| 01:01.00 | GPLGeek | some people replace entrance with another loader |
| 01:01.03 | mefistofeles | last dapper version of ubuntu is filled with bugs |
| 01:01.04 | GPLGeek | and its fine |
| 01:01.26 | GPLGeek | ya, you are right there are a lot of bugs in dapper but after a update and using a few scripts it works out ok |
| 01:01.44 | adamant1988 | Yeah, I liked elive too, but so far I've just had a more... idk... friendly experience... granted I managed to screw up elive pretty bad. |
| 01:02.01 | GPLGeek | i need to reboot this windows machine. (it's crashed all except for xchat lol, I guess that's why I only use this system for chat and not important stuff) |
| 01:02.17 | adamant1988 | GPLGeek: we should really talk about it in PM, last time we discussed Ubuntu in here there was a big fight -_- |
| 01:02.30 | mefistofeles | lol |
| 01:02.51 | GPLGeek | if i were to make a xen server it would be sarge |
| 01:03.46 | GPLGeek | I dont think people should be so hostile vs other distros. Competition is good. |
| 01:04.02 | adamant1988 | I like the competition... the end user benefits from it |
| 01:04.18 | GPLGeek | and distros can give people of specific types better results |
| 01:04.32 | adamant1988 | Yeah, Ubuntu has really been my cup of tea so far. |
| 01:04.39 | GPLGeek | I like the ubuntu kernel. |
| 01:04.47 | dererk | Feel free to talk about those topics on #ubuntu! |
| 01:04.50 | GPLGeek | many driver patches etc |
| 01:05.00 | adamant1988 | Here we go again =\ |
| 01:05.34 | GPLGeek | I like etch because it's good to have newer packages |
| 01:05.34 | dererk | I would mention it till you get used to the idea of respect, adamant1988 |
| 01:05.42 | GPLGeek | but sarge is "like a rock" more solid than buntu |
| 01:06.00 | GPLGeek | everything has its place |
| 01:06.14 | dererk | Yes, so does Ubuntu, on #ubuntu |
| 01:06.25 | GPLGeek | it would not exist if it did not have a use, except for .rpm based distros, they are the exception. |
| 01:06.25 | mefistofeles | how is adamant1988 disrepecting anyone? |
| 01:06.29 | GPLGeek | haha |
| 01:06.34 | adamant1988 | Dererk, I don't mean any disrespect to Elive users, and so far all of them but you don't seem to mind discussion of other distros. |
| 01:06.52 | dererk | THIS IS NOT #UBUNTU |
| 01:07.00 | GPLGeek | ok lets calm down |
| 01:07.02 | mefistofeles | we are talking about a gnu/linux distro |
| 01:07.06 | mefistofeles | in general |
| 01:07.14 | dererk | And, as Thana belive to UBUNTU talks have no place HERE |
| 01:07.16 | adamant1988 | ok and this is not #debian but you haven't gotten on GPLGeek's case for talking about it |
| 01:07.28 | dererk | Elive is Debian |
| 01:07.29 | GPLGeek | we use etch |
| 01:07.45 | dererk | Ubuntu is not even Debian |
| 01:07.51 | adamant1988 | So if I mention Mepis am I going to get yelled at as well? |
| 01:07.58 | adamant1988 | Or maybe PClinuxOS? |
| 01:08.06 | GPLGeek | we have used a buntu kernel in the past on elive as a test |
| 01:08.11 | GPLGeek | but we had some udev issues |
| 01:09.01 | GPLGeek | gpl/gnu is all about sharing and picking what's best and compiling it into a distro. |
| 01:09.13 | mefistofeles | yeah |
| 01:09.28 | GPLGeek | I'm going to get my sarge box out of the closet. Need to fire it up for xen |
| 01:09.28 | mefistofeles | any distro is fine since it fulfills ur needs |
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| 01:31.13 | Mutacion | ash |
| 01:31.22 | Mutacion | derek stop screaming |
| 01:31.35 | Mutacion | let adam used any distro he wants |
| 01:32.59 | quidam- | Mutacion, kulero :P |
| 01:33.24 | Mutacion | tu mama w |
| 01:33.31 | Mutacion | haha estos wyes se pelean pq usan otra distro |
| 01:33.32 | Mutacion | hahaha xD |
| 01:36.32 | dererk | Mutacion, que use lo que quiera |
| 01:36.48 | quidam- | :P |
| 01:36.55 | dererk | pero si dejamos que se empiece a hablar de ubuntu aqui, luego esto sera igual que #debian-es, todos preguntando sobre él |
| 01:37.10 | Mutacion | hehe |
| 01:37.12 | dererk | ademas a Thana tampoco le agrada |
| 01:37.20 | Mutacion | che w..y luego nunca me contestaste en espaniol |
| 01:37.26 | quidam- | xDDDDDDD |
| 01:37.33 | Mutacion | ta gueno..yo hablo con el adam.. pa qe le baje de huevos |
| 01:37.38 | Mutacion | zaz? pero ya no se peleen |
| 01:37.53 | Mutacion | el otro dia el pinche parles hizo chingos de pdos |
| 01:37.56 | Mutacion | por un comentario qe hize.. |
| 01:41.01 | dererk | que les den a todos xDDD |
| 01:41.07 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:41.34 | quidam- | dererk, :d |
| 01:41.37 | quidam- | xDDDDDDD |
| 01:42.02 | Mutacion | nos vemos dererk |
| 01:42.33 | egrub | dererk, zerial te pide ayuda... |
| 01:44.17 | Mutacion | ese egrub |
| 01:44.27 | egrub | Hola Mutacion |
| 01:44.37 | Mutacion | :) |
| 01:44.43 | egrub | :) |
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| 03:22.27 | roxville | ok, back on track... |
| 03:23.03 | Mutacion_ | roxville, why arent w on irc.debian.org? |
| 03:24.49 | roxville | Mutacion, i have no idea... i didn't even know it existed |
| 03:25.27 | Mutacion | no? |
| 03:25.35 | Mutacion | i thought u knew |
| 03:25.49 | dererk | http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html |
| 03:25.51 | roxville | nope, i didn't |
| 03:25.55 | dererk | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html |
| 03:26.04 | Mutacion | ahh it was derek who told me.. i though it was u rox |
| 03:26.10 | Mutacion | read that url :) |
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| 03:26.14 | dererk | those |
| 03:26.15 | roxville | ok |
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| 03:28.17 | roxville | Mutacion, ok i know why now... it's so new that thana hardly had time to notice it before he left |
| 03:28.28 | roxville | he was so busy trying to get the iso out |
| 03:29.58 | Mutacion | thana still dont knows :P |
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| 03:30.52 | Mutacion | muy brother is making a homework.... does someone knows where i can find something about -yahoo services?- |
| 03:32.44 | Mutacion | im now at irc.debian.org.. and #elive is registered..but i dont know who did it.. |
| 03:33.13 | roxville | wow! anybody in there? |
| 03:33.20 | Mutacion | well. i think ill configre my xchat to also enter there |
| 03:33.24 | roxville | except you, of course :) |
| 03:33.26 | Mutacion | now.. derek and i :P |
| 03:33.31 | roxville | lol |
| 03:33.34 | Mutacion | only derek then :P |
| 03:33.57 | Mutacion | but we have to be there. well in my opinion ill be there also.. noone knows when ppl need help |
| 03:34.37 | roxville | well... if noone knows about it, how can they come there? |
| 03:34.50 | Mutacion | rox, will u want to join us? |
| 03:35.01 | roxville | of course! |
| 03:35.30 | Mutacion | is a new debian irc.. and if its a debian thing.. MAAANY developers know it :) |
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| 03:35.51 | Mutacion | well be giving free coffee and oreo there :P |
| 03:35.58 | Mutacion | well = will |
| 03:44.57 | roxville | Mutacion, we'll = we will :) |
| 03:46.03 | Mutacion | eso eso eso = that that that |
| 03:46.48 | roxville | lol lol lol |
| 03:49.31 | dererk | <Mutacion> im now at irc.debian.org.. and #elive is registered..but i dont know who did it.. <-- damosu did |
| 03:49.41 | dererk | <roxville> wow! anybody in there? <--- indeed |
| 03:50.57 | Mutacion | whats indeed? |
| 03:51.02 | Mutacion | apt x, en es indeed |
| 03:51.31 | Mutacion | apt x en es indeed |
| 03:51.37 | Mutacion | ahh |
| 03:53.21 | dererk | apt, hug Mutacion |
| 03:53.22 | apt | ACTION hugs Mutacion |
| 03:53.28 | Mutacion | hahaha |
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| 04:05.33 | roxville | wow, you guys must be psychic or something! you usually log on at about the same time! |
| 04:05.39 | nocotigo | :) |
| 04:05.45 | adamant1988 | who? |
| 04:06.04 | nocotigo | thats cause we're in love |
| 04:06.12 | adamant1988 | I'm confused. |
| 04:06.14 | nocotigo | brb, lady on the phone |
| 04:06.26 | roxville | lol |
| 04:06.33 | adamant1988 | Who logs on at the same time? |
| 04:06.40 | roxville | * adamant1988 (n=adam@h-141-153-101-98.ckb.meer.net) has joined #elive |
| 04:06.40 | roxville | * nocotigo (n=nocotigo@65.32.45.70) has joined #elive |
| 04:06.46 | adamant1988 | Haha |
| 04:06.54 | adamant1988 | OH, yep! |
| 04:07.00 | roxville | lol |
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| 04:59.09 | |aSa| | Anybody alive? |
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| 05:04.09 | wasynyt | good morning everyone |
| 05:05.06 | dererk | good night wasynyt |
| 05:05.23 | wasynyt | good night |
| 05:05.43 | wasynyt | i will back in a half hour |
| 05:09.38 | Mutacion | good morning wasynyt |
| 05:09.43 | Mutacion | 00.07 am :P |
| 05:37.06 | wasynyt | good morning/night everyone |
| 05:39.07 | wasynyt | anything happened here while i was sleeping |
| 05:42.16 | Mutacion | i dont think so |
| 05:42.26 | Mutacion | only that my SD is full :S |
| 05:43.41 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 05:45.21 | Mutacion | wanna some coffee? |
| 05:45.29 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 05:45.42 | wasynyt | if you have any |
| 05:49.19 | adamant1988 | *yawn* |
| 05:49.26 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 05:54.18 | wasynyt | good morning Lauchita |
| 05:54.27 | Lauchita | hi there |
| 05:54.34 | wasynyt | :D |
| 05:54.45 | Lauchita | i need a little help |
| 05:54.48 | wasynyt | yes |
| 05:54.49 | Lauchita | -_- |
| 05:54.55 | wasynyt | ask a head |
| 05:54.55 | Lauchita | need glibc |
| 05:55.01 | Lauchita | but i cant install |
| 05:55.04 | wasynyt | why |
| 05:55.16 | Lauchita | glibc devel and headers |
| 05:55.29 | Lauchita | i need build a aplication |
| 05:55.35 | wasynyt | k |
| 05:55.42 | Lauchita | but give me a error about phtread |
| 05:55.49 | adamant1988 | I have to be up in 7 hours |
| 05:56.13 | Lauchita | lol |
| 05:56.18 | Lauchita | go to sleep man :) |
| 05:56.18 | wasynyt | adamant1988 should you go to sleeping |
| 05:56.41 | wasynyt | but well sleeping is over appriciated |
| 05:57.25 | Lauchita | :P |
| 05:57.28 | wasynyt | :D |
| 05:57.38 | Lauchita | i cant get with apt |
| 05:57.49 | wasynyt | try synaptic |
| 05:57.56 | Lauchita | same |
| 05:58.00 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 05:58.13 | Lauchita | i look in debian packege too |
| 05:58.28 | wasynyt | it seems that there is something odd in repos/your system then |
| 05:58.54 | Lauchita | mmm |
| 05:59.11 | Lauchita | i use the elive repos and debian repos |
| 05:59.30 | wasynyt | hm that should be ok |
| 05:59.39 | Lauchita | yea |
| 05:59.48 | wasynyt | sounds odd |
| 05:59.48 | Lauchita | but... :) |
| 05:59.57 | Lauchita | odd? |
| 06:00.05 | wasynyt | what kind of application have to build |
| 06:00.11 | Lauchita | i dont speak good english jeje |
| 06:00.26 | wasynyt | well if everything is ok and something does not work it is odd |
| 06:00.34 | Lauchita | a type of server |
| 06:00.41 | Lauchita | ohh nice |
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| 06:00.55 | adamant1981 | grrrr |
| 06:01.00 | adamant1981 | my internet connection sucks |
| 06:01.05 | wasynyt | good morning adamant1981 |
| 06:01.21 | adamant1981 | is there anyway I can kill my other name so I can use it? |
| 06:01.37 | wasynyt | ghost is but i cant remember how it was used |
| 06:01.46 | Lauchita | i need do: |
| 06:02.08 | wasynyt | yes ? |
| 06:02.16 | Lauchita | CC=gcc-3.3 |
| 06:02.24 | wasynyt | why those |
| 06:02.59 | wasynyt | why cant use the one elive uses |
| 06:03.06 | Lauchita | for compilling this |
| 06:03.19 | wasynyt | what is it your compilling |
| 06:03.21 | Lauchita | let me show you |
| 06:03.31 | Lauchita | http://www.mangosproject.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=466 |
| 06:03.44 | Lauchita | 2 step |
| 06:04.03 | Lauchita | step 2* |
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| 06:04.54 | wasynyt | that thread does not have any info for me... it hardly has anything in.. some errors only |
| 06:05.10 | wasynyt | wha application you are trying to install |
| 06:05.16 | Lauchita | a server |
| 06:06.09 | wasynyt | i dont think there is such application as "server" |
| 06:06.31 | Lauchita | a game server |
| 06:06.54 | wasynyt | show me a link to that aplications home site so that i can look at it |
| 06:07.01 | wasynyt | what game |
| 06:07.32 | Lauchita | wow |
| 06:07.35 | Lauchita | :) |
| 06:07.44 | wasynyt | huh? |
| 06:07.46 | wasynyt | :D |
| 06:07.49 | Lauchita | jeje |
| 06:07.58 | Lauchita | is free poject |
| 06:08.01 | wasynyt | you got it working |
| 06:08.04 | Lauchita | project |
| 06:08.14 | Lauchita | yes... in win32 version |
| 06:08.18 | wasynyt | well there is a lot of free projects out there |
| 06:08.19 | Lauchita | but sux |
| 06:08.26 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 06:08.34 | wasynyt | what is the projects name |
| 06:08.37 | Lauchita | yea... but this is open source.. |
| 06:08.40 | Lauchita | mangos |
| 06:08.45 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 06:09.20 | Lauchita | take |
| 06:09.22 | Lauchita | http://www.mangosproject.org/forum/index.php? |
| 06:09.58 | wasynyt | hm |
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| 06:11.08 | wasynyt | good morning cornelius[cz] |
| 06:11.38 | cornelius[cz] | good morning wasynyt |
| 06:13.11 | wasynyt | the project seems to be rather small... |
| 06:13.16 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 06:13.42 | Lauchita | is a nice project :) |
| 06:13.47 | wasynyt | Lauchita what gcc version it needs |
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| 06:13.55 | wasynyt | i can believe that |
| 06:14.07 | wasynyt | good morning Mutacion |
| 06:14.25 | Mutacion | maldita sea! |
| 06:14.35 | Mutacion | my xchat crashed.. |
| 06:14.35 | Lauchita | hola mutacion |
| 06:14.35 | Mutacion | :P |
| 06:14.52 | Mutacion | orale un 201.. |
| 06:14.58 | Mutacion | eres mx vdd? |
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| 06:15.05 | Lauchita | argentina |
| 06:15.30 | Mutacion | achis.qe raro |
| 06:15.34 | wasynyt | finland |
| 06:15.34 | Lauchita | wasynt gcc-3.3 |
| 06:15.39 | Mutacion | holitaz! Lauchita qe haciendo por aqi? |
| 06:15.47 | wasynyt | and you have what installed |
| 06:15.56 | Lauchita | 3.3 |
| 06:16.11 | wasynyt | and what is it crying that is missing |
| 06:16.31 | Lauchita | phtreads |
| 06:16.43 | wasynyt | have you tried installing it |
| 06:17.00 | Lauchita | i look in google |
| 06:17.05 | Lauchita | and find: |
| 06:17.36 | wasynyt | yes ? |
| 06:18.17 | Lauchita | you need the glibc-development files, both headers and libraries installed. That's why configure complains about missing pthread. |
| 06:18.44 | wasynyt | have you tried installig gcc3.3.dev ? |
| 06:18.53 | Lauchita | yes |
| 06:19.02 | wasynyt | what it says |
| 06:19.02 | Lauchita | but apt-get dont get it |
| 06:19.04 | Lauchita | :( |
| 06:19.08 | wasynyt | error ? |
| 06:19.15 | Lauchita | yup |
| 06:19.22 | wasynyt | what is the error |
| 06:19.38 | Lauchita | no package found or somthing similar |
| 06:20.27 | wasynyt | well try searching it in synaptic |
| 06:20.50 | Lauchita | mmmlet me see |
| 06:21.34 | Lauchita | nothing |
| 06:21.51 | Lauchita | gcc-3.3 install |
| 06:21.51 | wasynyt | try searching mere gcc and see what it shows |
| 06:22.02 | Lauchita | and gcc-3.3 base |
| 06:22.08 | Lauchita | oki |
| 06:22.33 | Lauchita | pkg name? |
| 06:22.47 | wasynyt | something with dev in it... |
| 06:22.59 | Lauchita | i have gcc-3.3 installing now... but no -dev :( |
| 06:23.08 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 06:23.13 | wasynyt | well try if it works |
| 06:24.02 | Lauchita | nop gcc-3.3-doc but nothing -dev :( |
| 06:24.28 | wasynyt | well try if the gcc-3.3 does the trick |
| 06:24.59 | Lauchita | ? |
| 06:25.20 | wasynyt | i mean that install it and see if it works with it |
| 06:25.35 | wasynyt | if not you need something else too |
| 06:25.38 | Lauchita | i have allready instal gcc3.3 |
| 06:25.46 | wasynyt | humm |
| 06:25.55 | wasynyt | what -dev files you see |
| 06:25.58 | Lauchita | that are my problem :/ |
| 06:26.14 | Lauchita | i search: gcc |
| 06:26.18 | wasynyt | yes |
| 06:26.30 | Lauchita | and dont appear -dev :( |
| 06:26.44 | Lauchita | that are strange |
| 06:26.45 | wasynyt | no dev files for any version |
| 06:27.01 | Lauchita | only dpkg-dev |
| 06:27.10 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 06:27.18 | wasynyt | tthen there is no dev file :( |
| 06:27.27 | Lauchita | :/ |
| 06:28.52 | Lauchita | this are my debian repo:http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib |
| 06:29.10 | wasynyt | yeah i believe your repos are allright |
| 06:29.11 | Lauchita | and the elive repos |
| 06:29.33 | Lauchita | strange :( |
| 06:29.39 | wasynyt | yeah |
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| 06:30.35 | wasynyt | adamant1988 problem solved |
| 06:31.06 | wasynyt | ? |
| 06:31.07 | wasynyt | or not |
| 06:31.40 | adamant1988 | Uhm |
| 06:31.41 | adamant1988 | not sure |
| 06:31.44 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 06:31.59 | adamant1988 | but I'm getting ticked.. I want to play RuneScape but I need JRE |
| 06:32.05 | wasynyt | :S |
| 06:32.11 | wasynyt | it is not installed |
| 06:32.32 | adamant1988 | ICan we talk in Pm wasynyt I'm not allowed to speak of my distro |
| 06:32.57 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 06:46.25 | wasynyt | welcome back Lauchita |
| 06:47.05 | Lauchita | jeje |
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| 06:59.16 | Mutacion | i think i have seen laucha before |
| 06:59.28 | Mutacion | maybe in another channel |
| 07:00.02 | wasynyt | could be |
| 07:00.25 | wasynyt | laucha is the same as Lauchita |
| 07:00.26 | Mutacion | couuuuuuldd be.. couuuuuuuuuuuuuuld be (8) the cure |
| 07:01.49 | wasynyt | :D |
| 07:04.18 | Mutacion | now wat? |
| 07:04.21 | Mutacion | what.. |
| 07:04.28 | wasynyt | huh ? |
| 07:04.37 | Mutacion | mmm... i dont have sleep |
| 07:04.55 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 09:01.25 | Lauchita | good nights |
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| 10:42.20 | wasynyt | good day everyone |
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| 10:42.34 | Lauchita | buenos dias de nuevo |
| 10:42.57 | wasynyt | good day Lauchita |
| 10:43.53 | Lauchita | i back to fight with the pthreads error |
| 10:44.01 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 10:44.05 | Lauchita | jejej |
| 10:45.31 | Lauchita | some new ideas? |
| 10:45.35 | wasynyt | nope.. |
| 10:45.39 | Lauchita | :/ |
| 10:46.19 | Lauchita | look this |
| 10:46.20 | Lauchita | http://pastebin.com/764799 |
| 10:46.41 | Lauchita | and this is the error: http://pastebin.com/764774 |
| 10:48.21 | wasynyt | you have everything else installed ? |
| 10:48.43 | wasynyt | because such thing as gcc3.3-dev does not excist |
| 10:48.44 | Lauchita | i think |
| 10:48.54 | Lauchita | that is i need |
| 10:49.11 | Lauchita | http://pastebin.com/764799 |
| 10:49.26 | wasynyt | no need to paste that anymore |
| 10:50.03 | Lauchita | oki |
| 10:52.25 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 10:52.43 | wasynyt | glibc & glibc-dev(glibc headers) |
| 10:52.48 | wasynyt | you sure you have these |
| 10:53.09 | Lauchita | yes |
| 10:53.19 | Lauchita | or i think :$ |
| 10:53.23 | wasynyt | then i have no idea :S |
| 10:53.26 | wasynyt | :D |
| 10:53.32 | wasynyt | you should check |
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| 10:56.04 | wasynyt | good day Tanner |
| 10:56.16 | Tanner | hey wasynyt |
| 10:57.54 | wasynyt | how are you ? |
| 10:58.25 | Tanner | Not too bad. youself? |
| 10:58.57 | wasynyt | pretty well.. |
| 10:59.15 | wasynyt | just got lp-player and i am lisning some music :D |
| 10:59.24 | Tanner | Schweet |
| 10:59.27 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 10:59.39 | Tanner | Good thing it's only rather |
| 10:59.45 | Tanner | wouldn't want to over do it |
| 11:00.05 | wasynyt | well i am happy when i go to shop and get myself some food :D |
| 11:01.03 | Tanner | Good old food... |
| 11:01.10 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 11:01.16 | wasynyt | eating pretty important |
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| 11:03.10 | wasynyt | welcome Elive_user |
| 11:04.47 | wasynyt | well i am going to that shop now.. see you later people |
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| 12:41.48 | pale_horse | good afternoon wasynyt |
| 12:42.34 | wasynyt | good afternoon pale_horse |
| 12:42.46 | wasynyt | is pleased |
| 12:42.56 | pale_horse | lp-player ? |
| 12:43.10 | wasynyt | remember those old huge music disc ? |
| 12:43.20 | wasynyt | black ones |
| 12:43.21 | pale_horse | OH a turntable |
| 12:43.31 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 12:43.41 | pale_horse | o course I remember them |
| 12:43.48 | wasynyt | :D |
| 12:44.34 | wasynyt | how is the house ? |
| 12:44.57 | pale_horse | cleaning up some |
| 12:45.02 | pale_horse | hauling scrap |
| 12:45.03 | wasynyt | k |
| 12:45.05 | wasynyt | :D |
| 12:45.13 | pale_horse | getting more materials this wekend |
| 12:45.29 | pale_horse | need to make room for it all |
| 12:45.36 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 12:45.55 | pale_horse | will put in some new lighting today and some shelves in the laundry |
| 12:46.13 | wasynyt | you have been busy |
| 12:46.19 | pale_horse | yup |
| 12:46.29 | wasynyt | :D |
| 12:46.53 | pale_horse | my kitchen and bath cabinets & counters come in a week I have lots to get done to prepare |
| 12:47.16 | wasynyt | i believe that |
| 12:49.55 | pale_horse | I will be so happy to end the massive clutter and dust |
| 12:50.04 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 12:56.28 | Detox | hello all |
| 12:56.28 | wasynyt | good afternoon Detox |
| 12:56.45 | Detox | before I install mepis to my dell laptop,,,, |
| 12:56.52 | wasynyt | yes ? |
| 12:56.59 | Detox | any ideas why elive locks up |
| 12:57.05 | wasynyt | huh ? |
| 12:57.06 | Detox | during the final stage if insall? |
| 12:57.40 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 12:57.45 | Detox | I have attempted to install 4 times, using each of the install electives and when i get to the window |
| 12:57.59 | wasynyt | so mouse does not respond and all lockup |
| 12:58.00 | Detox | that says almost done will take 5 min before you are ready to use ,,,, |
| 12:58.03 | Detox | it locks |
| 12:58.07 | Detox | right |
| 12:58.15 | Detox | it stares asd drools |
| 12:58.15 | wasynyt | :S |
| 13:00.06 | wasynyt | never that elive such things :S |
| 13:00.21 | Detox | huh? |
| 13:00.26 | wasynyt | only the old 0.4 version had such problems.. |
| 13:00.57 | wasynyt | * never that elive does such things :S |
| 13:01.09 | wasynyt | are you usinf |
| 13:01.10 | Detox | any solutions? |
| 13:01.21 | wasynyt | are you using fast or slow install |
| 13:01.25 | Detox | am installing .5 |
| 13:01.41 | Detox | dont know it gave the option |
| 13:02.04 | wasynyt | then you are using the fas one.. i think it is the default |
| 13:03.44 | Detox | maybe |
| 13:04.49 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 13:05.09 | Detox | yup |
| 13:05.33 | wasynyt | http://news.yahoo.com/s/cmp/20060606/tc_cmp/188701822 |
| 13:06.31 | Detox | what does this article about servers have to do with my laptop? |
| 13:06.41 | wasynyt | nothing |
| 13:06.44 | Detox | ok |
| 13:06.45 | wasynyt | absolutely nothing |
| 13:06.51 | Detox | thought i was confused |
| 13:06.55 | wasynyt | :D |
| 13:07.41 | Detox | what is qemu install? |
| 13:07.50 | Gwildor | comment on article |
| 13:08.11 | Gwildor | maybe the uptime is becasue..there are never security updates for win2003, so no need to restart :P |
| 13:08.18 | wasynyt | :D |
| 13:08.22 | wasynyt | that could be it |
| 13:08.39 | wasynyt | Detox that is not the correct option to choose |
| 13:10.24 | Detox | yes was just curious was it was |
| 13:12.20 | Detox | nmp |
| 13:12.29 | Detox | found debian boot floppies |
| 13:15.53 | wasynyt | what are you going to do with those ? |
| 13:16.12 | Detox | am attempting to load laptop with no cdrom |
| 13:17.15 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 13:17.23 | wasynyt | where can such things be found |
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| 13:18.36 | wasynyt | good afternoon adamant1988 |
| 13:18.37 | Detox | http://linux.simple.be/debian/floppy |
| 13:18.46 | adamant1988 | Hello wasynyt |
| 13:18.55 | adamant1988 | Man... I woke myself up QUICK |
| 13:19.02 | adamant1988 | I keep running into stuff when I walk |
| 13:19.03 | wasynyt | so it seems |
| 13:19.09 | wasynyt | huh ? |
| 13:19.34 | wasynyt | you cant open your eyes |
| 13:19.34 | adamant1988 | I'm still asleep so I'm REALLY off balance |
| 13:19.34 | adamant1988 | and I keep drifting to the right. |
| 13:19.38 | wasynyt | :D |
| 13:19.51 | adamant1988 | I know I have to have at least a couple nice bruises where I hit door knobs |
| 13:20.47 | adamant1988 | Yeah, that's one thing that'll never happen lol. |
| 13:20.59 | dererk | wasynyt, http://www.debian.org/distrib/floppyinst |
| 13:21.56 | wasynyt | adamant1988 why... you die if you drink |
| 13:22.22 | adamant1988 | I'm on a series of medications that make it very dangerous for me and for others, if I drink. |
| 13:22.55 | wasynyt | dererk what am i going to do with those bootfloppies... i am not installing anything |
| 13:23.12 | wasynyt | adamant1988 constant medication |
| 13:23.15 | wasynyt | ? |
| 13:23.20 | dererk | wasynyt> where can such things be found |
| 13:23.25 | adamant1988 | for the rest of my life wasynyt |
| 13:23.31 | wasynyt | thats bad |
| 13:23.38 | wasynyt | dererk ... i meant this |
| 13:23.43 | adamant1988 | That's the price of being Bipolar with psychosis. |
| 13:24.18 | wasynyt | Detoxam attempting to load laptop with no cdrom |
| 13:24.32 | wasynyt | adamant1988 thats sounds bad |
| 13:25.02 | Detox | either very brave or incredibly stupid |
| 13:25.12 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 13:25.19 | Detox | well let ya know of it blows up |
| 13:25.21 | adamant1988 | Yeah it's pretty nasty, I used to get hallucinations like an extra voice in my head that told me to hurt people |
| 13:25.26 | adamant1988 | I thought there was a demon in my room. |
| 13:25.31 | wasynyt | :S |
| 13:25.38 | wasynyt | that sounds really serious |
| 13:25.41 | Detox | are you serious adam? |
| 13:25.43 | adamant1988 | that stuff kind of comes and goes with the mood swings. |
| 13:25.49 | adamant1988 | Yeah Detox, I'm on meds for it. |
| 13:25.49 | Detox | or jsut foolingaround? |
| 13:25.58 | Detox | ok good you are on meds taht work |
| 13:26.03 | adamant1988 | Haha yeah. |
| 13:26.11 | Detox | I work with folks daily that have the same issues as you |
| 13:26.20 | wasynyt | really |
| 13:26.27 | adamant1988 | I'm on Lithium, Rispderal .5 and 1.0, Concerta, Ritalin |
| 13:26.29 | Detox | and as long sa the meds are taken and they do not nrink they stay fine |
| 13:26.31 | wasynyt | you must have interesting work |
| 13:26.49 | dererk | wasynyt, lol! |
| 13:26.55 | wasynyt | adamant1988 nice list of meds |
| 13:27.04 | wasynyt | :D |
| 13:27.11 | adamant1988 | They were scared enough about putting me on stims for ADD, adding alcohol to the equation would just be bad. |
| 13:27.29 | wasynyt | :S |
| 13:27.48 | Detox | proper nutrition , exercise and rest are very important aslo |
| 13:28.11 | adamant1988 | yeah, I'm sure they are, but I doubt I get any but the exercise |
| 13:28.21 | adamant1988 | I walk over 10 miles in a week usually |
| 13:28.27 | Detox | cool |
| 13:28.29 | Detox | good deal |
| 13:28.59 | adamant1988 | *sigh* I have to go filll out paper work for my 2nd job in 1/2 hour |
| 13:29.00 | Detox | the debian floppy net isntall seems to be working so far |
| 13:29.15 | Detox | has jsut formatted hd,, and is now isntalling base sys |
| 13:29.18 | wasynyt | thats good to hear |
| 13:29.35 | adamant1988 | Hey was thanks for the game too man |
| 13:29.42 | adamant1988 | I didn't get to play it much last night but it looks good. |
| 13:29.44 | Detox | video is goobered still but hopefully when i get the last of the base system in i can adjsut it |
| 13:29.59 | wasynyt | adamant1988 your welcome |
| 13:30.55 | Detox | the debian floppy allows for usb but it appears my external cdrom is so old it will not work |
| 13:31.12 | wasynyt | :S |
| 13:31.13 | Detox | it is an external hp 4x8x something |
| 13:31.28 | wasynyt | saounds old |
| 13:31.28 | adamant1988 | have to leave in about 10 minutes |
| 13:31.45 | wasynyt | see you later then adamant1988 |
| 13:31.46 | Detox | yes |
| 13:32.05 | Detox | was for win 95 / 98 system |
| 13:32.12 | wasynyt | o_O |
| 13:32.14 | Detox | and ya had to load its drivers |
| 13:32.18 | adamant1988 | Was for that game, can I just add it to my favorites? |
| 13:32.34 | wasynyt | you should be able |
| 13:32.40 | Detox | my pen drive is only 256 so ther is no linux i can put on it |
| 13:32.40 | adamant1988 | ok i'll do that now |
| 13:32.51 | adamant1988 | you could put DSL on it detox |
| 13:33.01 | pale_horse | lplinux works fine on a 256M usb stick |
| 13:33.20 | adamant1988 | Feather linux is 50 MB |
| 13:33.21 | pale_horse | it's based on DSL with a lot of enhancements |
| 13:33.49 | Detox | well ,, let me rephrase ... I cannot get a distro I need on the pen drive i have |
| 13:34.37 | wasynyt | wasnt that machine unable to boot usb |
| 13:35.10 | Detox | yes not allowed in bios ,, but the debian floppy mounted usb |
| 13:35.13 | pale_horse | there are floppy images available to boot from a stuck |
| 13:35.16 | pale_horse | stick ^ |
| 13:35.34 | Detox | and it was reading it.. buit would not engage maybe cause i did not have debian in it hgad elive cd |
| 13:35.42 | pale_horse | detox is there a specific linux app you need ? |
| 13:35.46 | wasynyt | :D |
| 13:35.58 | wasynyt | Detox that probaply is it |
| 13:37.15 | Detox | needs to run wireless pcmia ,,, usb drives ,,, openoffice |
| 13:37.46 | Detox | and look nice |
| 13:37.57 | wasynyt | well then it snot debian |
| 13:38.03 | Detox | asa well as decent music and ability to play video |
| 13:38.12 | pale_horse | well LP will do that with the plugins - fluxbox is totally themeable |
| 13:38.14 | wasynyt | what processor |
| 13:38.29 | Detox | celeron 800 |
| 13:38.33 | wasynyt | mhh |
| 13:38.41 | pale_horse | how much ram ? |
| 13:38.45 | Detox | 128 ram until i can afford more |
| 13:38.46 | wasynyt | not that good with videos |
| 13:38.50 | Detox | yes i know |
| 13:38.56 | Detox | for now video is on hold |
| 13:39.01 | wasynyt | :D |
| 13:39.04 | pale_horse | lp sounds like what you want then |
| 13:39.07 | adamant1988 | ugh |
| 13:39.09 | adamant1988 | gtg guys |
| 13:39.12 | Detox | cya |
| 13:39.13 | pale_horse | later man |
| 13:39.16 | wasynyt | see you later |
| 13:39.37 | wasynyt | pale_horse can he install lp from floppy |
| 13:39.39 | pale_horse | the default theme in lp is actually nice for flux |
| 13:39.51 | pale_horse | yes I believe so |
| 13:39.54 | Detox | ok folks ,,, am at the lat message on install saying it will take 5 min more ,,, right now my mouse works |
| 13:40.03 | wasynyt | tats good |
| 13:40.12 | Detox | shall i leave that message alone or must i click on it? |
| 13:40.27 | wasynyt | leave it |
| 13:40.30 | wasynyt | wait |
| 13:40.40 | Detox | ok will wait |
| 13:40.55 | wasynyt | good |
| 13:40.58 | Detox | doesnt lok like anything is happening tho |
| 13:41.05 | wasynyt | it is doing.. |
| 13:41.10 | wasynyt | it should be |
| 13:41.20 | Detox | no HD light flashing |
| 13:41.43 | Detox | well ,,, will wait the 5 min and see what happens |
| 13:41.50 | wasynyt | :D |
| 13:42.35 | Detox | back to debian ,,, I can use fluxbox as my WM as well as a number of others so why would i not want debian vs LP? |
| 13:42.52 | wasynyt | lp is pre configured |
| 13:43.06 | Detox | ok and that fits on a floppy? |
| 13:43.09 | pale_horse | zenwalk is the 1st dist I have ever run that got my video right and loaded the via drivers |
| 13:43.40 | Detox | this is a dell latitude c610 |
| 13:43.42 | wasynyt | pale_horse you seem to know lp.. tell Detox how to do it.. if you may |
| 13:43.50 | pale_horse | detox I could write up a "how to" for lp from a floppy |
| 13:44.33 | Detox | cool |
| 13:44.47 | Detox | is that better than zenwalk for laptops? |
| 13:44.54 | Detox | I need my wifi card |
| 13:44.58 | pale_horse | you will fist do a DSL "poorman's install" from floppy ( available on the site, DSL 1.5 only ) then replace the knoppix image with the one from LP linux |
| 13:45.43 | pale_horse | lp / dsl in a "frugal" install is virtually unbreakable - a reboot fixes everything |
| 13:45.45 | Detox | via web right? |
| 13:46.08 | pale_horse | you only have wifi - not a wired card ? |
| 13:46.28 | Detox | i have a nic card in it |
| 13:46.39 | Detox | but i do a lot of work in starbucks etc |
| 13:47.00 | pale_horse | we can get the wlan card working after the install |
| 13:47.05 | Detox | ok |
| 13:47.17 | pale_horse | wait I'll link you |
| 13:47.18 | Detox | so what other distros can we do this with? |
| 13:47.52 | Detox | back to elive istall ,,, still no action |
| 13:47.59 | pale_horse | well I have the most experience in this arena with dsl / lp |
| 13:48.05 | Detox | click ok on the 5 min more ? |
| 13:48.11 | Detox | ok clool |
| 13:48.18 | pale_horse | I know there are others I just don't know what they are |
| 13:49.09 | Detox | wasynyt >>>> should i click on the 5 min more buton? |
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| 13:49.41 | wasynyt | good afternoon pales_rider |
| 13:50.00 | pales_rider | good morning wasynyt |
| 13:50.06 | wasynyt | Detox that is odd... you can press i tthou.. if nothing has happened |
| 13:50.17 | wasynyt | good morning pales_rider |
| 13:50.23 | Detox | whoops |
| 13:50.24 | wasynyt | how is it going |
| 13:50.28 | wasynyt | Detox ? |
| 13:50.36 | Detox | was framebuffer notice not 5 min more |
| 13:50.36 | pales_rider | good here..and you? |
| 13:50.37 | Detox | sorry |
| 13:50.43 | Detox | now is 5 min more button |
| 13:50.45 | Detox | will wait |
| 13:50.54 | wasynyt | i am fine.. |
| 13:51.35 | Detox | boy boy ,, do I have a great hunk of coffee here! can ya smell it? |
| 13:51.42 | wasynyt | nope |
| 13:51.50 | wasynyt | apt coffee |
| 13:52.03 | wasynyt | huh |
| 13:52.19 | Detox | (holding it closer to my smell -o- vision monitor) |
| 13:52.26 | wasynyt | ahh |
| 13:52.46 | Detox | aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 13:52.47 | wasynyt | :D |
| 13:52.48 | Detox | yum yum |
| 13:53.06 | Detox | delivered fresh daily by Juan Valdez on h is mule |
| 13:53.14 | wasynyt | :D |
| 13:53.19 | wasynyt | really |
| 13:53.26 | wasynyt | where do you live |
| 13:54.36 | Detox | welll now the 5 min button is up and the laptop is locked again |
| 13:54.44 | wasynyt | happy hunting pale_horse |
| 13:54.48 | wasynyt | Detox :( |
| 13:54.56 | Detox | so much for elive on dell laptop |
| 13:55.06 | wasynyt | so it seems |
| 13:55.32 | Detox | going to other pc for a min....... |
| 13:55.49 | pale_horse | detox if you had a floppy with the right drivers could you boot from a cd ? |
| 13:55.53 | pale_horse | usb cd |
| 13:56.51 | pale_horse | ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/damnsmall/archive |
| 13:57.15 | pale_horse | get the 1.5 bootfloppy image and the dsl1.5.iso |
| 13:57.35 | pale_horse | OR the lplinux I9NV-2.iso |
| 13:58.30 | pale_horse | apt, moo |
| 13:58.32 | apt | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ |
| 13:58.53 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:03.58 | Detox | brb |
| 14:04.15 | wasynyt | k |
| 14:08.12 | Detox | ok back sorry |
| 14:08.21 | wasynyt | welcome back |
| 14:09.14 | Detox | i think i could run from thjis extermnal cd if i could access via drivers from floppy |
| 14:09.38 | wasynyt | hmm.. didnt ask that a little while ago |
| 14:10.06 | wasynyt | <pale_horse>detox if you had a floppy with the right drivers could you boot from a cd ? |
| 14:10.21 | pale_horse | I said that wrong |
| 14:10.37 | wasynyt | yes |
| 14:10.57 | pale_horse | the boot floppy will allow the dsl 1.5 cd to run from a usb drive then the install could be done |
| 14:11.43 | Detox | hmm |
| 14:11.49 | Detox | accessing it now |
| 14:11.53 | pale_horse | the usb boot floppy MIGHT work with anything |
| 14:12.52 | pale_horse | there is a grub floppy also but you get the grub prompt and you have to edit the boot comamnds on the fly |
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| 14:13.39 | Gwildor | dsl boot floppy would need to be midified....and grub boot floppy, iirc, doesnt have usb drivers |
| 14:13.43 | Gwildor | modified |
| 14:14.07 | Detox_BRB | what about external cdrom ,, or can it do net install? |
| 14:14.27 | Gwildor | huh? |
| 14:14.37 | Gwildor | usb cd-rom i assume...and dpends on what ur talking about |
| 14:14.57 | Gwildor | dsl uab boot floppy cant do net istnall, and neither can grub floppy |
| 14:15.25 | Gwildor | the dsl usb boot can pass control to the usb cd-rom to boot DSL....for anything else ti would have to be modified first |
| 14:15.39 | Gwildor | the grub boot floppy doesnt have usb drivers, so you would need a way to load those some how |
| 14:15.46 | Gwildor | if that even possible from grub |
| 14:15.57 | pale_horse | you can't boot usb from grub |
| 14:16.08 | Gwildor | ok, not possible |
| 14:16.20 | Detox | ok tehn ,,,, let's switch focus ,,, |
| 14:16.22 | pale_horse | at least not in the current version |
| 14:16.24 | Gwildor | ami correct everywhere else pale? |
| 14:16.33 | Detox | the laptop wtih no cd is doing net install from debian |
| 14:16.41 | pale_horse | ok |
| 14:16.55 | Detox | so let's tackle the dell laptop that will not allow elive to install |
| 14:17.15 | Gwildor | i wonder if you can upgrade debian, to Elive by changing repo's, ....prob not a meta package for it, huh |
| 14:17.22 | Detox | since elive will not work with anything I have tried ,, does nayone have suggestions? |
| 14:17.29 | wasynyt | Gwildor that is not possible |
| 14:17.32 | Gwildor | depends on WHY it wont work |
| 14:17.44 | Gwildor | wasynyt, i figured as much |
| 14:17.47 | wasynyt | :S |
| 14:17.49 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:17.51 | Gwildor | wasynyt, not CURRENTLY possible :P |
| 14:17.55 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 14:17.57 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:18.09 | Gwildor | w/ a debian base install, and a repo change w/ a elive meta package, it would be |
| 14:18.13 | wasynyt | debian people would hang us for that |
| 14:18.17 | Detox | the laptop WITH cd is a dell latitude c610 1 Ghz and 128 ram 5 gig hd |
| 14:18.18 | Gwildor | ahh, fugg em |
| 14:18.26 | Gwildor | Detox, but why wont it install? |
| 14:18.49 | Detox | at the last notice the one that says 5 min left ,,, everything locks |
| 14:18.59 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 14:19.18 | Detox | now ,, since I only have a 5 gig hd ,, i did not create a /home dir |
| 14:19.28 | Detox | would that mess things u p? |
| 14:20.45 | Detox | do i have to have a seperate home partition? |
| 14:20.56 | wasynyt | i think not |
| 14:21.04 | Gwildor | no |
| 14:21.12 | wasynyt | it is recomended but it does not brake anything |
| 14:21.25 | Gwildor | kinda like "if i were you......" |
| 14:21.28 | Gwildor | but you dotn avhe too |
| 14:21.58 | Detox | k |
| 14:22.22 | Detox | well then i do not know why it locks |
| 14:23.45 | wasynyt | i dont jnow either |
| 14:23.50 | wasynyt | *know |
| 14:23.56 | Detox | hmmm I guess I am a puzzler huh? |
| 14:25.05 | Detox | well ,,, any recommendations for another distro? |
| 14:25.16 | Detox | would like to stay with debian if possible |
| 14:25.25 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 14:25.37 | Detox | I can put libranet on ,,, |
| 14:25.40 | wasynyt | nothing actually like elive :D |
| 14:25.49 | Detox | but the kernel is old |
| 14:25.59 | Detox | is rock solid and works |
| 14:26.08 | wasynyt | try symphonyos if you want samething different |
| 14:26.22 | Detox | hwo is that wtih pcmia wifi? |
| 14:26.31 | wasynyt | i have no idea |
| 14:26.31 | Gwildor | wasynyt, you ever try it?? |
| 14:26.38 | wasynyt | have tried |
| 14:26.44 | pale_horse | nothing wrong with older kernels I like 2.4.26 |
| 14:26.47 | wasynyt | it is different |
| 14:26.48 | Detox | ok different slant...... |
| 14:26.51 | Gwildor | useable? |
| 14:26.54 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 14:26.56 | Detox | which distros aer wifi friendly? |
| 14:26.59 | wasynyt | somewhat yes |
| 14:27.05 | wasynyt | detox opensuse 10.1 |
| 14:27.06 | pale_horse | depends on your wifi |
| 14:27.15 | wasynyt | new network manager |
| 14:27.20 | Detox | i have a microsft mn520 |
| 14:27.23 | Detox | and a dlink |
| 14:27.26 | wasynyt | ! |
| 14:27.41 | pale_horse | what chipsets ? that's what counts |
| 14:27.53 | Detox | ahhh atheros maybe? |
| 14:28.02 | Detox | dont remember |
| 14:28.07 | wasynyt | pale_horse true |
| 14:29.01 | pale_horse | http://damnsmalllinux.org/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=17;t=11728;hl=grub+and+floppy |
| 14:33.11 | Detox | found dsl cd |
| 14:33.25 | Detox | am trying that with the failed elive laptop |
| 14:33.44 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:34.36 | Detox | good thing i have time to do this here could never spend this amount of time at home |
| 14:34.45 | wasynyt | why |
| 14:35.02 | Detox | thougt about pclinuxos but have no idea which one to dl |
| 14:36.09 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:37.31 | pale_horse | the minime is bare bones kde and you can install what ever you want on top of it |
| 14:38.15 | pale_horse | it's nothing to write home about but it works |
| 14:39.13 | pale_horse | dang zenwalk has a 1G installed footprint |
| 14:39.18 | pale_horse | quick |
| 14:39.22 | pale_horse | clean |
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| 14:42.37 | pale_horse | I just booted into it |
| 14:42.49 | pale_horse | xfce is the default wm |
| 14:43.11 | wasynyt | it looks rather good |
| 14:43.19 | wasynyt | at least when themed |
| 14:43.30 | pale_horse | I installed fluxbox and use that |
| 14:43.47 | wasynyt | hmm what kind of wm is that.. looks good ? |
| 14:44.27 | pale_horse | I like flux - clean tons of themes and fast |
| 14:44.45 | pale_horse | with xfce |
| 14:44.51 | pale_horse | charley[~]$ free -m |
| 14:44.52 | pale_horse | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:44.52 | pale_horse | Mem: 947 133 814 0 5 71 |
| 14:44.52 | pale_horse | -/+ buffers/cache: 55 891 |
| 14:45.09 | wasynyt | huh ? |
| 14:45.23 | pale_horse | it uses minimal memory |
| 14:45.28 | wasynyt | ahh |
| 14:45.47 | pale_horse | 133 M with xchat & gaim 1.5 open |
| 14:45.59 | wasynyt | thats pretty nice |
| 14:46.04 | pale_horse | yup |
| 14:46.12 | pale_horse | with xfce and not flux |
| 14:46.26 | pale_horse | flux would drop it to 100M or so |
| 14:46.39 | Detox | ok am DL'ing zenwalk |
| 14:46.45 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:46.58 | Detox | could not get dsl to adjust to my wifi card evern tho is sees it |
| 14:47.15 | wasynyt | pale_horse for me xfce seems more like "fuller" wm |
| 14:47.19 | wasynyt | dunno why |
| 14:47.29 | pale_horse | xfce is a DE |
| 14:47.33 | pale_horse | flux is a wm |
| 14:47.39 | wasynyt | ahh that could be |
| 14:47.43 | wasynyt | *it |
| 14:48.49 | pale_horse | with ff 1.5.0.3 |
| 14:48.53 | pale_horse | Mem: 947 164 783 0 6 89 |
| 14:49.03 | pale_horse | 164 used |
| 14:49.08 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 14:49.10 | wasynyt | not bad |
| 14:49.51 | pale_horse | not sure how wifi friendly it is - have to ask in #zenwalk |
| 14:52.06 | wasynyt | ->food |
| 14:53.03 | Detox | they say nogo for wifi |
| 14:54.03 | pale_horse | well that sucks |
| 14:54.54 | pale_horse | when you booted dsl did you ask in #damnsmalllinux about your wlan card or read the forums ? dsl / lp sees my card and connects me |
| 14:57.11 | adamant1988 | yay I'm back! |
| 14:57.25 | Detox | how did it go? |
| 14:57.37 | adamant1988 | Well, I have to go in tomorrow at 6:30 in the morning |
| 14:57.47 | adamant1988 | which means I have to be up by about 5. |
| 14:58.57 | pale_horse | but you get off early |
| 14:59.31 | adamant1988 | 3 pm or so I would imagine |
| 14:59.56 | pale_horse | those hours let you beat traffic also |
| 15:00.05 | adamant1988 | Yeah, which is good, because I walk. |
| 15:00.23 | pale_horse | in Atlanta I was in at 6 and out at 2 |
| 15:00.49 | pale_horse | some came in at 10 and worked till 6 |
| 15:00.59 | pale_horse | some came in at noon and worked till 8 |
| 15:01.17 | pale_horse | that way the server room was constantly supported |
| 15:01.17 | adamant1988 | yeah, well, I'm not complaining |
| 15:01.23 | adamant1988 | it's the hours I wanted |
| 15:01.33 | pale_horse | would be my choice too |
| 15:01.41 | adamant1988 | well I work two jobs lol |
| 15:01.50 | pale_horse | oh |
| 15:02.04 | adamant1988 | I'm going to be a busy bee between both jobs, my fiance, and learning C. |
| 15:02.11 | pale_horse | now that I'm retired I work all the damn time on the house |
| 15:02.21 | pale_horse | yes you will |
| 15:02.28 | adamant1988 | but that's all right with me |
| 15:02.37 | adamant1988 | at least I don't have to maintain my computer for hours on end |
| 15:02.41 | adamant1988 | so that saves me some time. |
| 15:02.46 | pale_horse | don't over do it and burnout |
| 15:03.07 | pale_horse | I have cron jobs to maintain my machine |
| 15:03.08 | adamant1988 | I highly doubt there will be any burning out. |
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| 15:03.26 | adamant1988 | my family is worse on me than any job. |
| 15:04.10 | adamant1988 | My mother just decided that we had to remodel the house. |
| 15:04.19 | adamant1988 | So every room in the house is getting super cleaned |
| 15:06.30 | adamant1988 | I love AmoraK |
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| 15:08.55 | wasynyt | good afternoon everyone |
| 15:09.15 | adamant1988 | Hola! |
| 15:10.57 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:11.35 | Detox | jsut posted the prob about the dell install in the forum, maybe someone will have a fix |
| 15:12.08 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:12.13 | wasynyt | hopefully |
| 15:14.49 | adamant1988 | meow |
| 15:15.00 | pale_horse | apt, meow |
| 15:15.02 | apt | jbot: woem |
| 15:15.25 | pale_horse | apt, moo |
| 15:15.26 | apt | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ |
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| 15:32.32 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:32.42 | Begasus | evening peeps |
| 15:33.01 | wasynyt | good afternoon Begasus |
| 15:34.12 | Begasus | pre-evening then ;) |
| 15:34.52 | adamant1988 | hello |
| 15:34.57 | adamant1988 | it's not even then yet either |
| 15:35.00 | adamant1988 | still morning here |
| 15:35.01 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 15:35.15 | wasynyt | well 18.35 here |
| 15:35.25 | adamant1988 | 11:35 here |
| 15:35.35 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:36.53 | Detox | hot dog!!!!!!!!! got DSL to accept my wifi |
| 15:37.03 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:37.04 | wasynyt | nice |
| 15:37.07 | Detox | did not see the selection for prisim2 |
| 15:37.09 | wasynyt | congrats |
| 15:37.13 | Detox | so now isntalling onto hd |
| 15:37.18 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:37.27 | Detox | see I'm not as dumb as people think |
| 15:37.55 | adamant1988 | haha DSL rocks. |
| 15:38.29 | wasynyt | nope just speak |
| 15:38.32 | pale_horse | oh detox now replace the dsl knoppix image with the knoppix image from lplinux |
| 15:38.58 | adamant1988 | What is the he not here? |
| 15:39.08 | wasynyt | so it seems |
| 15:39.23 | wasynyt | apt arrest pale_horse |
| 15:39.24 | apt | http://pale_horse.wasarrested.com |
| 15:39.27 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:39.31 | adamant1988 | you'd think his psychic "someone said ubuntu" senses would go off. |
| 15:39.45 | wasynyt | nope |
| 15:39.55 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:40.40 | adamant1988 | haha |
| 15:40.43 | adamant1988 | apt moo |
| 15:40.44 | apt | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ |
| 15:40.46 | wasynyt | heh |
| 15:40.47 | adamant1988 | YAY |
| 15:40.54 | wasynyt | -_- |
| 15:41.03 | adamant1988 | lol. |
| 15:41.04 | wasynyt | too many moo's here |
| 15:41.36 | adamant1988 | I don't know what to do with these "dirty word" 5.10 CD's that I got in the mail day before yesterday =\ |
| 15:42.43 | wasynyt | send them to dererk |
| 15:42.44 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:42.54 | adamant1988 | Lol he'd just set them on fire |
| 15:42.55 | dererk | ... |
| 15:42.58 | adamant1988 | and then hire someone to kill me |
| 15:43.02 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 15:43.18 | wasynyt | what dererk you dont want those cd's |
| 15:43.23 | adamant1988 | see... I told you his psychic senses would gooff |
| 15:44.11 | Begasus | wasynyt do openSUSE :P |
| 15:44.22 | adamant1988 | Bahahaha, I did open suse too |
| 15:44.30 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:46.24 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:46.29 | wasynyt | please dont |
| 15:46.43 | adamant1988 | yay 1337 speak |
| 15:46.56 | wasynyt | nope no leet speak |
| 15:47.04 | adamant1988 | lol k |
| 15:47.19 | wasynyt | :S |
| 15:47.20 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:47.45 | adamant1988 | So there I was right |
| 15:47.46 | adamant1988 | DRUNK |
| 15:47.52 | adamant1988 | and I downloaded... |
| 15:48.07 | wasynyt | huh ? |
| 15:48.15 | adamant1988 | Secret Taco Nazis |
| 15:48.38 | adamant1988 | it's from YTMND.com |
| 15:48.55 | pale_horse | contrary to popular belief, tocos are NOT a sexual device for single nerds |
| 15:49.40 | adamant1988 | Capitalization is the difference between "I helped my Uncle Jack off a horse" and "I helped my Uncle jack off a horse". |
| 15:49.55 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 15:49.58 | wasynyt | -_- |
| 15:50.24 | adamant1988 | I saw that on some site, I was like BAHAHAHAHAH |
| 15:50.32 | wasynyt | hmhm |
| 15:50.39 | adamant1988 | lol ok |
| 15:50.45 | adamant1988 | Man, I am STILL dizzy from this morning |
| 15:50.56 | adamant1988 | I must have awoke wrong or something. |
| 15:51.07 | wasynyt | you didnt take your meds |
| 15:51.13 | wasynyt | thats my theory |
| 15:51.22 | adamant1988 | No I took them first thing |
| 15:51.29 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:51.30 | adamant1988 | I know because the tab is up on my little med planner |
| 15:51.37 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:51.48 | adamant1988 | idk, but I screwed something up and I have to work today too |
| 15:51.59 | adamant1988 | this is going to seriously suck |
| 15:54.46 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 15:56.56 | adamant1988 | yay LP |
| 15:58.26 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:58.40 | adamant1988 | I really like amoraK |
| 15:58.52 | adamant1988 | Playing all my odd music lol |
| 15:59.06 | wasynyt | :D |
| 16:02.57 | adamant1988 | OK WTF... I have to restart |
| 16:03.03 | wasynyt | huh ? |
| 16:03.05 | adamant1988 | I'm not using azureus anymore |
| 16:03.13 | wasynyt | why reboot |
| 16:03.22 | adamant1988 | this little notification comes up in the corner |
| 16:03.25 | adamant1988 | and nothing can get rid of it |
| 16:03.33 | wasynyt | shut down java |
| 16:03.40 | adamant1988 | how do I do that? |
| 16:03.53 | wasynyt | check if top sees it.. |
| 16:04.01 | wasynyt | in terminal top |
| 16:04.54 | wasynyt | or you could do killall java... |
| 16:05.09 | adamant1988 | I don't see any java listed there |
| 16:05.14 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 16:05.18 | adamant1988 | ugh, I'll just restart X |
| 16:05.22 | adamant1988 | be back |
| 16:05.24 | wasynyt | k |
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| 16:06.21 | Detox | opk ,,, dsl is debian based right? |
| 16:06.28 | wasynyt | mhh |
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| 16:06.41 | adamant1988 | =\ |
| 16:06.44 | adamant1988 | well that sucked |
| 16:06.47 | Detox | how to update |
| 16:06.54 | pale_horse | detox debian > knoppix > dsl |
| 16:06.56 | Detox | apt-get comamnd not found |
| 16:07.00 | pale_horse | NO ! |
| 16:07.01 | wasynyt | welcome back adamant1988 |
| 16:07.27 | pale_horse | you have to install apt from the dsl repo |
| 16:07.40 | wasynyt | what does dsl use |
| 16:07.45 | Detox | ok with out apt how to get? |
| 16:07.46 | pale_horse | what kind of install did you do ? |
| 16:07.51 | Detox | opff cd |
| 16:07.54 | pale_horse | get what ? |
| 16:08.06 | wasynyt | updates ? |
| 16:08.11 | pale_horse | no way |
| 16:08.14 | pale_horse | you can't |
| 16:08.17 | pale_horse | it don't |
| 16:08.22 | Detox | k |
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| 16:09.10 | pale_horse | click the "mydsl" icon |
| 16:09.41 | pale_horse | did you get 1.5 like I said ? |
| 16:09.53 | adamant1988 | I'm just going to use a different client obviously there is a bug with azureus |
| 16:10.07 | Detox | dont nkow it was burned a few montha ago |
| 16:10.21 | wasynyt | adamant1988 could be |
| 16:10.41 | adamant1988 | well I'm not the only one who's had that happen, so it's not just me (for once) |
| 16:10.48 | wasynyt | :D |
| 16:10.50 | adamant1988 | like my elive bugs that no one could replicate |
| 16:11.01 | adamant1988 | but I could get them over and over and over again |
| 16:11.08 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 16:11.23 | Detox | found it i think |
| 16:11.36 | Detox | oops got to go meting late for |
| 16:11.45 | wasynyt | :D |
| 16:11.50 | wasynyt | see you later |
| 16:11.52 | adamant1988 | ta-ta |
| 16:12.01 | wasynyt | huh ? |
| 16:12.18 | wasynyt | evil side speaking again |
| 16:12.45 | adamant1988 | what? |
| 16:13.07 | wasynyt | hmm.. what do you mean with ta-ta |
| 16:13.13 | wasynyt | bye bye :S |
| 16:13.33 | adamant1988 | ta-ta = Bye |
| 16:13.55 | wasynyt | ok adamant1988 |
| 16:14.03 | adamant1988 | heh |
| 16:14.17 | wasynyt | apt give adamant198 a softdrink |
| 16:14.18 | apt | ACTION gives a softdrink to adamant198 |
| 16:14.24 | wasynyt | apt give adamant1988 a softdrink |
| 16:14.27 | apt | ACTION gives a softdrink to adamant1988 |
| 16:14.30 | wasynyt | :D |
| 16:14.41 | wasynyt | no alcohol for you |
| 16:16.32 | wasynyt | but i am going to get going now... see you later |
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| 16:49.08 | _mauricio_ | hi people |
| 16:49.27 | adamant1988 | hello |
| 16:50.02 | _mauricio_ | hello adamant1988 |
| 16:50.29 | adamant1988 | How are you _mauricio_? |
| 16:50.50 | _mauricio_ | fine, and u? |
| 16:51.44 | adamant1988 | Ok, chilling out before I have to go to work |
| 16:51.51 | adamant1988 | trying to get amule connected |
| 16:52.14 | _mauricio_ | did you try with another server? |
| 16:52.23 | adamant1988 | I don't know what servers work... I don't have a list. |
| 16:52.45 | _mauricio_ | that's the problemxD |
| 16:52.54 | adamant1988 | yeah, I need to find a server list. |
| 16:53.07 | adamant1988 | but I don't know where one is |
| 16:53.49 | _mauricio_ | what server do you use more often (sorry for my english, i from uruguay) |
| 16:54.00 | adamant1988 | idk, this is my first time with amule =\ |
| 16:54.04 | adamant1988 | I normally use Limewire |
| 16:54.29 | _mauricio_ | ohh where are you from? |
| 16:54.58 | adamant1988 | USA |
| 16:55.44 | _mauricio_ | beautiful country |
| 16:56.23 | adamant1988 | but yeah I need my p2p going... lol... and bit torrent doesn't do it for me for music. |
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| 16:59.05 | _mauricio_ | 4[adamant19884] try with azureus |
| 16:59.31 | adamant1988 | Azureus has a bug on my computer =\ |
| 16:59.41 | adamant1988 | it has a window that pops up and won't go away |
| 16:59.48 | _mauricio_ | try this |
| 16:59.49 | _mauricio_ | 12http://hydranode.com/ |
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| 17:00.20 | _mauricio_ | is a beta but it's seem that it's good |
| 17:01.31 | adamant1988 | ok |
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| 18:35.48 | Detox | sorry for the silence .. have been in meetings |
| 18:36.07 | adamant1988 | it's ok |
| 18:36.16 | adamant1988 | I forgive you |
| 18:36.25 | Detox | am trying pclinuxos on my P700 laptop |
| 18:36.37 | adamant1988 | Yeah, are you trying .92 or 3? |
| 18:37.13 | Detox | 92 |
| 18:37.23 | adamant1988 | that works. |
| 18:37.32 | adamant1988 | I like .93 more |
| 18:37.35 | adamant1988 | myself... |
| 18:38.09 | Detox | looks li8ke this will not run any faster tahtn mepis |
| 18:38.17 | Detox | and mepis will see my nic card |
| 18:38.20 | adamant1988 | I'd doubt it... |
| 18:38.28 | adamant1988 | have you tried Ubuntu? |
| 18:38.44 | Detox | wont install |
| 18:38.50 | adamant1988 | oh yeah? |
| 18:38.56 | adamant1988 | any specific error? |
| 18:39.19 | Detox | jsut quits when unpacking kerne |
| 18:39.32 | adamant1988 | you try reburning the iso? |
| 18:39.44 | Detox | ya -A NUMBVR OF TIMES |
| 18:39.51 | adamant1988 | redownloading the iso? |
| 18:39.53 | Gwildor | try re-downloading... |
| 18:39.57 | Gwildor | or md5 the one you ahve |
| 18:39.58 | Detox | it jsut does not like the pc's i have |
| 18:40.11 | Detox | this latest one is freash |
| 18:40.11 | adamant1988 | Idk, I've managed to get it on my desktop |
| 18:40.18 | Detox | and passed the md5sum |
| 18:40.23 | adamant1988 | and linux and my desktop are like oil and water |
| 18:40.54 | Detox | still isntalling debian via net |
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| 18:40.59 | adamant1988 | that's odd... are you getting them via torrent or FTP/HTTP? |
| 18:41.08 | adamant1988 | the isos I mean |
| 18:41.10 | Detox | have to add all packages individually to get xserver going |
| 18:41.29 | Detox | is only text mode untiul i get all done |
| 18:41.36 | adamant1988 | Hrmmm... what kind of linux situation are you looking for? like what kind of distro? |
| 18:41.38 | Gwildor | x-window-system is the maeta package you are looking for for X |
| 18:41.38 | Detox | takes time with my blazing dsl connection |
| 18:41.44 | Detox | yes |
| 18:41.52 | Detox | but had to apt-gt it |
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| 18:42.07 | adamant1988 | Murphy's law is really kicking you in the butt right now |
| 18:42.07 | Detox | than maybe gnome will work |
| 18:42.08 | Gwildor | apt-get isntall x-window-system.....or x-window-system-core.... <---one is for debian, other is for ubuntu..dot recall |
| 18:42.21 | Detox | it is almost done |
| 18:42.31 | Detox | will need a hand in configureing if you dont mind |
| 18:42.38 | adamant1988 | Wait... why don't you try knoppix or Kanotix? |
| 18:42.39 | Detox | had the doc but unsure where it is |
| 18:42.47 | Detox | no cdrom remember? |
| 18:42.48 | adamant1988 | they're famous for hardware compatibility |
| 18:42.53 | adamant1988 | no I don't remember... |
| 18:42.59 | Gwildor | hehe, knoppix takes a paragraph of boot codes to boot for me :P./..well 5.0.1 |
| 18:43.00 | Detox | ahh |
| 18:43.03 | Detox | I haev no cd |
| 18:43.09 | Gwildor | i HEAR kanotix is better |
| 18:43.21 | adamant1988 | I was told to try them |
| 18:43.27 | Detox | if I can boot from floppy and do a net isntall for kanotix that would be great |
| 18:43.30 | adamant1988 | but I opted to try Ubuntu, IMO good choice. |
| 18:43.56 | adamant1988 | it sucks that you don't have CDrom |
| 18:44.01 | Gwildor | ya |
| 18:44.06 | adamant1988 | how are you getting mepis and such installed on it without CDrom? |
| 18:44.11 | Gwildor | im worse |
| 18:44.15 | Detox | ya since it is not my pc yet i dont want to spend $$ on it |
| 18:44.17 | Gwildor | no cd-rom, no floppy, no usb-boot |
| 18:44.30 | adamant1988 | =\ |
| 18:44.38 | Detox | i ahve floppy |
| 18:44.44 | Detox | but cannot boot from usb |
| 18:44.50 | adamant1988 | how are you people getting linux on these systems =\ |
| 18:44.59 | Gwildor | lol, very carefully :P |
| 18:45.22 | adamant1988 | Detox, I guess DSL didn't go well for you then? |
| 18:45.33 | Detox | yes is ok |
| 18:45.46 | adamant1988 | Why not use It then? |
| 18:45.59 | Detox | but i continue to lose my pcmia wifi each time i reboot |
| 18:46.13 | adamant1988 | Man these computers must be ancient to not have CDrom and all that 0_0 |
| 18:46.13 | Gwildor | you can do a HDD istnall...and you wotn |
| 18:46.24 | Gwildor | adamant1988, my CD-rom broke between istnalls |
| 18:46.38 | adamant1988 | ouch... |
| 18:46.59 | adamant1988 | you guys have some horrible luck.. |
| 18:47.45 | adamant1988 | makes me respect the amount of luck I've had so far =\ |
| 18:48.13 | Detox | where is install selection on kanotix? |
| 18:48.23 | Gwildor | never touch kanaotix....idk |
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| 18:51.13 | Detox | I'd try elive install again if i could figure out another way |
| 18:51.29 | adamant1988 | what problem are you having exactly? |
| 18:51.30 | Detox | but since it locks no sence it it again |
| 18:51.56 | Detox | install goes fine until last window === 5 min to go ''' then it locks |
| 18:52.14 | adamant1988 | Odd... and you're not booting from an cd are you? |
| 18:52.24 | Gwildor | i was | | <--that clsoe to getting E-live runnign from HDD but still in live CD mode |
| 18:52.42 | adamant1988 | I didn't even know that it was possible to do an elive net install |
| 18:53.01 | Detox | yes this laptop has working cd |
| 18:53.06 | adamant1988 | OH |
| 18:53.08 | Detox | celeron 800 and 128 ram |
| 18:53.11 | Detox | 5 gig hd |
| 18:53.17 | adamant1988 | ouch.. |
| 18:53.19 | Detox | but will noit complete install |
| 18:53.21 | adamant1988 | is debian even going to fit on that? |
| 18:53.49 | Detox | debian is being insalled on my w/o a cd laptop |
| 18:53.53 | Detox | and it has 20 gig |
| 18:54.00 | adamant1988 | this is confusing |
| 18:54.01 | adamant1988 | ok |
| 18:54.07 | adamant1988 | I think I'm with you now MAYBE |
| 18:54.16 | Detox | ok recap = = = = |
| 18:54.38 | Detox | no cd == celeron 1ghz ,, 128 ram ,, 20 gig hd NO cdrom |
| 18:54.56 | Detox | With CD === celeron 800, 128 ram , 5 gig hd |
| 18:55.09 | Detox | isntalling net install on the first |
| 18:55.18 | Detox | debian net isstall |
| 18:55.28 | adamant1988 | =\ and on debian you couldn't just tell it to do a desktop install? |
| 18:55.39 | adamant1988 | that includes the x packages.. |
| 18:55.42 | Detox | yes but minimal stuff came in |
| 18:55.51 | adamant1988 | someone is out to get you |
| 18:55.56 | Detox | had to manually add x window sys and gnome |
| 18:56.22 | adamant1988 | and you should definitely get that computer repaired... CD rom is a quasi essential function =\ |
| 18:56.41 | Detox | ya but it is not officially mine yet |
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| 18:56.46 | adamant1988 | oh |
| 18:56.51 | Detox | and besides,, it is good learning for me |
| 18:56.57 | adamant1988 | is it just going to be a play box for you or something? |
| 18:57.01 | Detox | although frustrating but a learning experience |
| 18:57.19 | adamant1988 | Yeah, elive taught me a lot of commands |
| 18:57.25 | adamant1988 | I had to know them to get through the bugs =\ |
| 18:57.47 | adamant1988 | so I'm familiar with frustrating experiences |
| 18:58.07 | Detox | oh nooooooooo |
| 18:58.20 | Detox | rebooted debian and is listed 3 kernels |
| 18:58.24 | Detox | from one install |
| 18:58.29 | Detox | aarrrgggg |
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| 18:59.50 | adamant1988 | =\ |
| 19:00.27 | Detox | what is configur command for xfree86? |
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| 19:18.59 | Detox | ok am starting over with debian net install |
| 19:19.09 | Detox | will manually select packages this time |
| 19:19.46 | adamant1988 | Detox: http://www.murphys-laws.com/murphy/murphy-laws.html <<< read the first one.. Murphy's laws are kicking your butt |
| 19:19.49 | Detox | and ,,,, jsut as social comentary >>>>> |
| 19:19.54 | Detox | AAAAARRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:20.26 | Detox | how about O'Reilly's correlary to Murphy's Law? |
| 19:20.34 | Detox | do know what that is? |
| 19:20.46 | adamant1988 | Haven't heard of it lol |
| 19:20.55 | Detox | Murphy was an Optimist! |
| 19:21.05 | adamant1988 | haha. |
| 19:21.16 | adamant1988 | Doesn't make the laws less convincing. |
| 19:21.25 | Detox | darn |
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| 19:21.41 | adamant1988 | makes them more intersting to read though |
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| 19:22.04 | Detox | no cd = havoc for an isntall |
| 19:22.30 | adamant1988 | yeah it does |
| 19:22.39 | Detox | if this was a dog of a pc i would not care but with a 1Ghz cpu and 20 gig hd ,, I hate to give it up |
| 19:22.50 | adamant1988 | use it for parts |
| 19:22.56 | adamant1988 | or just replace the CD drive |
| 19:22.58 | Detox | not a laptop |
| 19:23.19 | adamant1988 | oh, I thought the laptop had cd... |
| 19:23.20 | Detox | if I can convince my boss to let me buy it then I'll replace the cdrom |
| 19:23.45 | Detox | two lapptops here |
| 19:23.52 | adamant1988 | heh, you'd like the computers sitting around my house then... they're ancient =\ |
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| 19:24.06 | Detox | probably would be new and better than mine |
| 19:24.18 | adamant1988 | Uhm, my mothers would be if it ran linux |
| 19:24.27 | Detox | anything above a PII 600 is a move up for me |
| 19:24.41 | adamant1988 | But hers has 4 GB ram, 1 TB HD space, ATI RADEON X800 PRO graphics card |
| 19:24.55 | adamant1988 | The processor is duo core Intel |
| 19:25.05 | Detox | I have a gateway pc nice cpu 1 ghz but has rambus ram and is stinks |
| 19:25.18 | Detox | cant replace too expensive and it is slow |
| 19:25.33 | adamant1988 | Mine runs better than hers though... I've got 1 GB ram, ATI RADEON X600 card. |
| 19:25.39 | adamant1988 | single core processor |
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| 19:25.48 | Detox | maybe I'll find a MB that will take intel cpu and i can swap it |
| 19:25.57 | adamant1988 | Amazing the difference an operating system can make lol |
| 19:26.03 | Detox | ya |
| 19:26.15 | Detox | but linuix runs circles around win on it |
| 19:26.27 | adamant1988 | I'm going to see if I can't start a linux revolution in WV |
| 19:26.50 | adamant1988 | gotta love shipit |
| 19:26.54 | Detox | we went through there 3 months ago |
| 19:27.04 | Detox | went to louisville for a conference |
| 19:27.13 | adamant1988 | no seriously the last person I talked to about linux here thought it was a candy |
| 19:27.16 | Detox | gas was expensive |
| 19:27.33 | adamant1988 | took me a while to explain. |
| 19:30.38 | adamant1988 | well gtg |
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| 20:08.56 | Kalmm | I'm testing elive, I must say that a really good thing |
| 20:12.10 | Detox | tes |
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| 21:06.55 | MetaPhaze_laptop | roxville |
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| 21:27.21 | innovati | Tanner!! |
| 21:27.32 | Tanner | shigidy shwa |
| 21:27.44 | innovati | *fappage* I never expected to see you here |
| 21:28.19 | Tanner | pff, I'm always here |
| 21:28.23 | innovati | Thanatermesis isn't here eh |
| 21:28.29 | innovati | no you're never here when I come |
| 21:28.49 | Tanner | you prolly come at like 2 AM |
| 21:29.04 | innovati | anybody smart: what about selling pre-installed Elive on a removable drive, USB based> |
| 21:29.32 | MetaPhaze_laptop | anyone: what command to restart e do i sent to eesh? |
| 21:30.01 | innovati | you could perhaps have a windows .exe that would reboot into the liveCD ala BeOS, and also it could contain a fat32 partition so your files could be read by all OS's |
| 21:31.01 | innovati | or if I were to sell these things here in Canada (maybe with Tanner's help), and donate part of the profits to Elive, would you guys make a eliveUSB branch of the code? |
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| 21:31.24 | innovati | roxville isn't even here |
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| 21:37.01 | Linuxino | hi |
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| 21:49.04 | innovati | Linuxino: hello |
| 21:49.44 | Kalmm | hello |
| 21:50.00 | innovati | hello hello all! |
| 21:50.27 | innovati | Tanner: http://quotes.fov120.com/?show=single"e=2346 |
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| 21:51.33 | bouba | hello:) |
| 21:51.41 | simonpca | plop |
| 21:51.48 | innovati | hello |
| 21:52.16 | innovati | don't you think the Elive e17 run dialog is the best run dialog youve ever seen? |
| 21:52.33 | innovati | I always launch my programs from the run dialog, and windowsXP's run is lacking |
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| 21:52.56 | innovati | run is the ultimate launcher |
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| 21:54.27 | innovati | I bet Tanner's off having a dinner of canadian bacon, or maple syrup, or whatever it is we canadians eat |
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| 22:14.33 | Kalmm | when I install elive it's a exactly a sid? |
| 22:15.09 | bouba | hi LinuxNIT :). i would install the nvidia driver, but i must stop X. how can i do stop it? thanks! |
| 22:16.06 | dererk | no Kalmm |
| 22:16.37 | dererk | It's Etch, whether you use Devel or Stable release |
| 22:18.50 | Kalmm | and doing apt-get dist-upgrade, I don't will break my system? |
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| 22:29.36 | bouba | stupid firefox. in elive every 2 minutes crashes....uffff |
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| 22:34.13 | Kalmm | noobody knows? |
| 22:34.43 | bouba | what? |
| 22:37.09 | unduality | Hi guys. My automounter function has just stopped working. This has to do with ivman, right? Can anyone help? |
| 22:38.50 | Kalmm | doing apt-get dist-upgrade, I don't will break my system? |
| 22:39.42 | unduality | Kalmm, Dont do that! It a very bad idea!! |
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| 22:40.48 | Kalmm | so to upgrade i will have to use new elive released |
| 22:41.44 | unduality | upgrade but dont dist-upgrade. |
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| 22:42.52 | unduality | "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" |
| 22:43.15 | unduality | Hey GPLGeek ! |
| 22:43.26 | unduality | I got trouble, again. |
| 22:43.43 | GPLGeek | We had the single most busy day at work EVER |
| 22:43.46 | Kalmm | ok |
| 22:43.57 | unduality | ivman has just stopped working |
| 22:43.58 | GPLGeek | what's the problem again unduality ? |
| 22:44.27 | GPLGeek | ivman is the hal events controller right |
| 22:45.53 | unduality | GPLGeek, Well, nothing automounts or asks about launching of burnerapps etc |
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| 22:46.10 | unduality | hal events? |
| 22:46.23 | GPLGeek | Maybe during a upgrade thana's scripts may have been removed |
| 22:46.26 | GPLGeek | elive skel |
| 22:47.26 | unduality | I have never dune elive skel before. Will EVERYTHING be changed back to like it was before |
| 22:47.29 | unduality | ? |
| 22:47.54 | GPLGeek | um. that was a comment of mine not a command lol |
| 22:48.22 | dererk | Kalmm, I depends on Debian updates |
| 22:48.34 | GPLGeek | I'm going to need a few minutes to find a solution |
| 22:48.59 | GPLGeek | I just got home and I have literally 25 people up on gaim, 280 emails, and somone on the phone right now. |
| 22:49.05 | dererk | <unduality> Kalmm, Dont do that! It a very bad idea!! <--- That's a very bad advice |
| 22:49.19 | dererk | Both do different tasks |
| 22:49.28 | Kalmm | O_o |
| 22:49.32 | Kalmm | I know |
| 22:49.43 | dererk | Kalmm, I said that to unduality |
| 22:49.49 | GPLGeek | dererk, you must be talking about dist-upgrade |
| 22:49.53 | GPLGeek | right? |
| 22:49.58 | dererk | yes |
| 22:50.16 | GPLGeek | how did I know. it's like a plague lol. some people told people to do it, and then everyone is having problems |
| 22:50.30 | Kalmm | my question is, could I install/desintall packages ... like I do on my sid? |
| 22:50.46 | dererk | Kalmm, Do you know what Sid is? |
| 22:50.48 | GPLGeek | go into my gmail and search for +"dist-upgrade" +"break" 32 results |
| 22:51.03 | GPLGeek | of "bug reports / tech support" |
| 22:51.17 | Kalmm | sure |
| 22:51.29 | dererk | GPLGeek, you better set up a tech support bussiness |
| 22:51.51 | dererk | Kalmm, Then, you should know SID is just one branch more in Debian flavors |
| 22:52.11 | GPLGeek | Kalmm, if you are a power user you can change your apt repos by hand and upgrade to a few of those packages but a full dist-upgrade wont work and you could even clobber your system just getting the packages you want. |
| 22:52.42 | GPLGeek | We live in etch here so the packages are still really current and somewhat stable |
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| 22:52.55 | dererk | BUT |
| 22:52.58 | unduality | dererk, Thats why it is a bad idea... |
| 22:53.33 | dererk | Recent update of Etch with new modularized Xorg would take us glx accl |
| 22:53.40 | dererk | know that Kalmm |
| 22:53.49 | dererk | unduality, I don't see your reason |
| 22:53.49 | GPLGeek | the good thing about elive is it sits at 1.19Gb installed |
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| 22:54.14 | GPLGeek | you can tar.gz the whole elive system (using the livecd to mount the hard drive, execute the tar command) |
| 22:54.30 | GPLGeek | it compresses a installed system to around ~500mb |
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| 22:54.58 | GPLGeek | actually if you used 7zip it would, gz would be more like 600 or 700 |
| 22:55.10 | GPLGeek | so you can BACKUP the system before the upgrade |
| 22:55.18 | Kalmm | but i remind, i read that the live cd sstem is very different of installed system |
| 22:55.21 | GPLGeek | and if something goes wrong you can just replace the files using the tar file |
| 22:55.30 | dererk | unduality, say "do upgrade and don't do dist-upgrade" is senseless |
| 22:55.46 | GPLGeek | Kalmm, you just use the livecd to tar the existing /dev/hda1 |
| 22:56.07 | Kalmm | okok, I should read better :) |
| 22:56.12 | GPLGeek | if you tar the whole drive while in that system it also tries to compress things like /dev/null and /temp, etc |
| 22:56.18 | GPLGeek | It's ok |
| 22:56.52 | GPLGeek | The main thing is you want to make sure home is backed up onto a removable media like cd or dvd that way you have your personal files |
| 22:57.06 | GPLGeek | the other stuff can sit on your hard drive or back up to a network server or whatever |
| 22:57.41 | GPLGeek | you also might want to copy your /var/log somewhere safe and then remove the existing logs that way you have fresh ones for the upgrade |
| 22:57.42 | unduality | dererk, In the line below that i say "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" That is what i meant. |
| 22:58.20 | Kalmm | is it so dangerous, with a partition /home, and the live cd to reinstallif I had a big problem.... |
| 22:58.28 | dererk | unduality, to say "do upgrade and don't dist-upgrade" without explaining him what's the difference is not fair |
| 22:58.59 | dererk | Kalmm, read "Development" section on the www.elivecd.org site |
| 22:59.11 | dererk | There's a little explanation about that |
| 23:00.15 | GPLGeek | tar -cvzf ROOT.tar.gz /mnt/theNameOfTheMountedRootDrive |
| 23:00.43 | GPLGeek | Honestly I dont even have NFS set up lol |
| 23:00.50 | GPLGeek | I just either FTP or SSH everything |
| 23:01.02 | dererk | <joke> |
| 23:01.02 | LinuxNIT | bouba, did you get your question answered? |
| 23:01.08 | dererk | You don't Desire to live! |
| 23:01.10 | dererk | </joke> |
| 23:01.29 | GPLGeek | unduality, I got a guy testing some stuff for you |
| 23:01.32 | GPLGeek | you are not forgotten |
| 23:01.54 | dererk | LinuxNIT, you're right |
| 23:02.10 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 23:02.14 | dererk | I better see some code instead of writing it |
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| 23:08.44 | LinuxNIT | bouba, ? |
| 23:09.12 | unduality | Thanx GPLGeek ! Now as my cd/dvd combo do not automount in /media i cant mount it even. Complain about stuff not being in fstab, mtab |
| 23:09.28 | GPLGeek | oh |
| 23:09.35 | bouba | no:D |
| 23:10.40 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 23:10.47 | LinuxNIT | so what exatcly do you need to do? |
| 23:10.49 | GPLGeek | type su and then put in root password |
| 23:10.54 | bouba | stop x |
| 23:11.11 | GPLGeek | type /etc/init.d/hald start && /etc/init.d/ivman start |
| 23:11.11 | LinuxNIT | do you have a second pc? |
| 23:11.19 | GPLGeek | tell me any errors/output in pastebin.com |
| 23:11.42 | bouba | no at this time... |
| 23:11.56 | pales_rider | hello |
| 23:11.59 | GPLGeek | bouba, to stop x you would need to su, then you would need to /etc/init.d/entrance stop . Then log out of E |
| 23:12.19 | GPLGeek | hi pales_rider |
| 23:12.30 | pales_rider | hi GPLGeek |
| 23:12.34 | LinuxNIT | hello pales_rider |
| 23:12.51 | pales_rider | hi LinuxNIT |
| 23:13.03 | bouba | i've tried ctrl+alt+f1, then /etc/init.d/entrance stop, but the nvidia installer told me that X still running |
| 23:13.28 | unduality | GPLGeek, This happens, bash: /etc/init.d/hald: No such file or directory |
| 23:13.32 | LinuxNIT | open top |
| 23:13.53 | LinuxNIT | man i hate being stuckin windows |
| 23:13.55 | GPLGeek | unduality, this usually happens to people who dist-upgrade, did you? |
| 23:14.11 | GPLGeek | Somehow hald got removed |
| 23:14.31 | unduality | Nope i didnt. Thanx to your advice .-) |
| 23:14.44 | LinuxNIT | bouba, do you see an xserver name in top? |
| 23:15.00 | GPLGeek | strange somehow you lost some base files |
| 23:15.21 | bouba | xorg |
| 23:15.44 | GPLGeek | apt-get install hal && apt-get install ivman , unduality |
| 23:16.13 | LinuxNIT | bouba, kill it once you stop entranced |
| 23:16.13 | unduality | Hmm, tomorrow ill demonstrate my elive laptop to my boss, trying to convince her to install elive. Hope it will get working till then. |
| 23:16.22 | GPLGeek | if that does not work then apt-get install -f |
| 23:16.26 | bouba | ok thanks |
| 23:16.33 | LinuxNIT | hope that works :D |
| 23:16.35 | LinuxNIT | np |
| 23:16.51 | bouba | (opera still doesn't works:D ) |
| 23:17.12 | LinuxNIT | pales_rider, when you sending that plane ticket? hehehe |
| 23:17.12 | GPLGeek | bouba, many people say it works for them |
| 23:17.17 | pales_rider | anytime you want |
| 23:17.19 | GPLGeek | I am not sure why it would not for you |
| 23:17.19 | LinuxNIT | works for me |
| 23:17.24 | LinuxNIT | pales_rider, lol |
| 23:17.37 | pales_rider | i think i would have to know where and to whom im sending it..lol |
| 23:17.48 | LinuxNIT | thats probably true |
| 23:17.50 | GPLGeek | I'm thinking you have broken packages |
| 23:17.58 | bouba | boh... |
| 23:18.09 | LinuxNIT | bouba, did you chmod 777 /usr/bin/opera? |
| 23:18.25 | pales_rider | when would you like to come here linuxNIT lol |
| 23:18.33 | unduality | GPLGeek, It just says that the latest versions already are installed. |
| 23:18.36 | LinuxNIT | before school starts :D |
| 23:18.47 | GPLGeek | LinuxNIT, he said he did yesterday, and it should not even matter anyways, its just something I wanted to test |
| 23:18.49 | pales_rider | ummm when is that? |
| 23:19.07 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, oh.. sorry i had to run yesterday |
| 23:19.11 | bouba | nothing happened...:| |
| 23:19.12 | GPLGeek | unduality, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and then do it |
| 23:19.21 | LinuxNIT | pales_rider, i dunno |
| 23:19.23 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 23:19.32 | pales_rider | lol |
| 23:19.35 | pales_rider | no clue? |
| 23:19.36 | GPLGeek | Maybe... one second |
| 23:19.47 | LinuxNIT | end of the summer..... |
| 23:19.50 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 23:19.56 | pales_rider | ahh well thats a clue |
| 23:23.02 | GPLGeek | do: apt-get install hald --force-reinstall && apt-get install ivamn --force-reinstall |
| 23:23.14 | GPLGeek | if that does not work then you are boned! |
| 23:23.24 | GPLGeek | or you can find someone smarter than em |
| 23:23.26 | GPLGeek | er me |
| 23:24.15 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 23:25.33 | unduality | GPLGeek, E: Sense force is not understood, try true or false. |
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| 23:27.15 | GPLGeek | wtf my syntax was wrong? |
| 23:27.30 | GPLGeek | um what command forces a reinstall of the package |
| 23:28.35 | sinplomo | GPLGeek, apt-get -f -reinstall |
| 23:28.35 | LinuxNIT | why not purge it then apt-get clean then install? |
| 23:28.41 | LinuxNIT | maybe a bad download too |
| 23:28.42 | GPLGeek | pt-get install hald --reinstall && apt-get install ivamn --reinstall |
| 23:28.46 | GPLGeek | lol |
| 23:28.53 | GPLGeek | apt-get install hald --reinstall && apt-get install ivamn --reinstall |
| 23:28.56 | GPLGeek | there! |
| 23:29.01 | GPLGeek | omg. my brain is fried |
| 23:29.02 | sinplomo | GPLGeek, use aptitude |
| 23:29.02 | sinplomo | XD |
| 23:29.04 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, what about clean? |
| 23:30.01 | GPLGeek | LinuxNIT, I think I know what that last command I pasted will do =) Now that I've got it right |
| 23:30.17 | LinuxNIT | ok ok |
| 23:30.19 | GPLGeek | I've been up since 6am working my ass off and now my brain is going to shut off |
| 23:31.05 | GPLGeek | ok im going to open up gaim again |
| 23:31.16 | GPLGeek | and fix some other problems |
| 23:31.29 | GPLGeek | oh also, do any of you play battlefield 2? |
| 23:32.00 | GPLGeek | 64.69.44.188 , have teamspeak too |
| 23:32.24 | LinuxNIT | battlefield 2?? ... whats that ? :0 |
| 23:32.28 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 23:32.39 | unduality | GPLGeek, Did you mean hal or hald ? |
| 23:32.54 | GPLGeek | the owners are my friends IRL, A few of the people who play on the server use cedega to play bf2 |
| 23:33.30 | GPLGeek | there is no "hald" package |
| 23:33.39 | GPLGeek | I think its in hal or a depend of hal |
| 23:34.21 | unduality | If i try to apt hal i get ""WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 23:34.39 | unduality | No problem? Should i go on? |
| 23:39.12 | GPLGeek | go on |
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| 23:44.27 | unduality | GPLGeek, are you there? |
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| 23:47.04 | unduality | GPLGeek, I just found the problem. The reason why ivman didnt work was this: There was no space left on my drive!!! Sorry for this. I fixed some space and now everything works again. I really wasnt thinking about that possibility. |
| 23:47.30 | LinuxNIT | :D |