| 00:16.18 | pale_horse | hey LinuxNIT I hear you are learing your letters huh ? |
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| 00:49.05 | revdjenk | hey you elivers! what's new |
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| 00:57.12 | roxville | hello Elive_user :) |
| 00:57.18 | roxville | welcomer to #elive |
| 00:58.44 | roxville | eshep, hey bro :) |
| 01:01.43 | adamant1988 | do do do |
| 01:04.28 | roxville | hey adamant1988 |
| 01:04.57 | adamant1988 | hey roxville :) |
| 01:04.59 | adamant1988 | what's up? |
| 01:05.58 | roxville | not much... took my daughter and step son to the water park today... we stayed 6 hours... |
| 01:06.04 | roxville | and i'm pretty pale... |
| 01:06.13 | roxville | or... was |
| 01:06.35 | adamant1988 | lol |
| 01:06.37 | adamant1988 | Nicely done |
| 01:06.46 | roxville | yeah... |
| 01:07.02 | adamant1988 | I spent some time at work this morning, came back and hung out with the ROS guys. I'm now playing around with their product in VMware player |
| 01:07.12 | roxville | i tried to go out for a beer, but they said lobsters weren't allowed at the bar |
| 01:07.27 | roxville | ROS... what |
| 01:07.30 | roxville | s |
| 01:07.31 | adamant1988 | I try to avoid contact with the sun between 11 and 3 pm |
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| 01:07.33 | roxville | that? |
| 01:07.37 | adamant1988 | 11 AM and 3PM |
| 01:07.39 | roxville | hey yawlright |
| 01:07.41 | adamant1988 | ReactOS |
| 01:07.45 | adamant1988 | =ROS |
| 01:07.47 | yawlright | heyaaa |
| 01:07.53 | roxville | mm ok :) |
| 01:08.20 | yawlright | how is 0.5 coming |
| 01:08.20 | adamant1988 | lol, it's a reverse engineering project, they're making a windows compatible open source OS |
| 01:08.24 | roxville | GPLGeek, has something to do with them too... or was... or something |
| 01:08.38 | adamant1988 | he's the one who told me about them |
| 01:08.40 | roxville | you never know with that dude :) |
| 01:08.51 | roxville | damn, i think i got sun stroke! |
| 01:09.11 | adamant1988 | but right now I'm trying to learn these qemu commands |
| 01:09.23 | roxville | yawlright, ... weren't you here the other day? |
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| 01:09.59 | yawlright | ummmm remember i am 20 min lag man |
| 01:10.05 | yawlright | :P |
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| 01:11.38 | yawlright | is thana still on vacation? |
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| 01:12.14 | Muta | yes <yawlright> u |
| 01:12.21 | Muta | qiubole ppl |
| 01:14.04 | roxville | gotta put daughter to bed, bbiab |
| 01:14.45 | Muta | ese <roxville> |
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| 01:15.39 | Muta | Hi patty |
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| 01:17.06 | LinuxNIT | pale_horse, yeah thats me |
| 01:17.31 | patty | hi linuxNIT |
| 01:17.45 | LinuxNIT | sup patty |
| 01:17.47 | pale_horse | :O |
| 01:17.47 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 01:17.47 | adamant1988 | hey LinuxNIT |
| 01:18.03 | LinuxNIT | howd adamant1988 roxville pale_horse and the rest of #elive |
| 01:18.06 | patty | nothing....trying to set up xchat and its giving me fits |
| 01:18.08 | LinuxNIT | *howdy |
| 01:18.16 | patty | it wont let me be pales_rider |
| 01:18.20 | adamant1988 | Hey LinuxNIT how skilled are you with qemu? |
| 01:18.22 | patty | :/ |
| 01:18.24 | LinuxNIT | apt smack xchat |
| 01:18.26 | apt | ACTION smacks xchat upside the head. |
| 01:18.34 | patty | lol |
| 01:18.36 | LinuxNIT | adamant1988, i have booted an os with it |
| 01:18.50 | LinuxNIT | patty, there that should fix it |
| 01:19.05 | adamant1988 | Well, that's no good, I need to learn the commands for it... I intend to be virtualizing OSes as they become available |
| 01:19.17 | adamant1988 | the official documents are no good. |
| 01:19.26 | LinuxNIT | so you need to boot an os aye? |
| 01:19.27 | patty | ty |
| 01:19.29 | LinuxNIT | thats easy |
| 01:20.13 | adamant1988 | Well yeah basically, but I don't get all the modifiers and options... |
| 01:20.20 | LinuxNIT-II | one sec |
| 01:20.32 | adamant1988 | it's unbearably slow atm, I need to use kqemu |
| 01:21.07 | LinuxNIT-II | ok so do you just want ot run the system or install it to an image? |
| 01:21.44 | adamant1988 | well, for now, just run them. |
| 01:22.08 | LinuxNIT-II | qemu -cdrom foo.iso -boot d |
| 01:22.19 | adamant1988 | ok why the -cdrom modifier? |
| 01:22.26 | LinuxNIT-II | the iso is the cdrom |
| 01:22.32 | adamant1988 | and what is -boot d |
| 01:22.42 | LinuxNIT-II | tells it to boot the cdrom |
| 01:22.51 | adamant1988 | ok so b -cdrom is tellin ig that foo.iso is the cd |
| 01:23.01 | LinuxNIT-II | hmm qemu foo.iso may work |
| 01:23.04 | LinuxNIT-II | adamant1988, yes |
| 01:23.22 | adamant1988 | do I need to make mention of the image I created already? |
| 01:23.36 | LinuxNIT-II | you can if you want to use it |
| 01:23.46 | LinuxNIT-II | -hda foo.img |
| 01:24.24 | adamant1988 | so would { qemu -cdrom foo.iso -boot d -hda blank.img} work? |
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| 01:24.40 | adamant1988 | or does the boot need to be last? |
| 01:25.06 | LinuxNIT-II | dunno... i always put the boot last |
| 01:25.12 | adamant1988 | ok, then I'll do like wise |
| 01:25.22 | LinuxNIT-II | are you on debian? |
| 01:25.26 | LinuxNIT-II | or debian based? |
| 01:25.42 | adamant1988 | so my command should be : qemu -cdrom foo.iso -hda blank.img -boot d? |
| 01:25.48 | adamant1988 | I'm on Ubuntu |
| 01:25.49 | LinuxNIT-II | looks good to me |
| 01:26.12 | LinuxNIT-II | adamant1988, ok you ll have no network.... unless it has changed since i used it |
| 01:26.22 | adamant1988 | =\ |
| 01:26.23 | LinuxNIT-II | but it can be set up... i just dont know how |
| 01:26.33 | LinuxNIT-II | go to #qemu and read the FAQ |
| 01:26.37 | adamant1988 | that kind of blows, I'm starting to like vmware more. |
| 01:26.48 | LinuxNIT-II | but it could have changed since i last used it |
| 01:26.58 | adamant1988 | but I won't need the network probably |
| 01:26.59 | LinuxNIT-II | it willll tellll you when it starts |
| 01:27.15 | LinuxNIT-II | hmm looks like im a bit "l" happy |
| 01:27.23 | adamant1988 | haha, yeah |
| 01:27.27 | LinuxNIT-II | wb pales_rider |
| 01:27.29 | adamant1988 | how much is VMware? |
| 01:27.34 | pales_rider | ty |
| 01:27.35 | LinuxNIT-II | dunno i never bought it |
| 01:27.37 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
| 01:27.48 | LinuxNIT-II | i dont like to buy things unless i have to |
| 01:28.12 | pales_rider | can i buy a vowel? |
| 01:28.18 | LinuxNIT-II | a |
| 01:28.29 | pales_rider | gotcha! |
| 01:29.28 | pales_rider | shoulda said can i buy a Letter |
| 01:29.35 | LinuxNIT-II | no |
| 01:29.44 | LinuxNIT-II | they arent for sale |
| 01:29.53 | adamant1988 | oh it's only $180 |
| 01:29.59 | LinuxNIT-II | adamant1988, did it work? |
| 01:30.03 | LinuxNIT-II | hmmm |
| 01:30.10 | LinuxNIT-II | $250? |
| 01:30.23 | adamant1988 | I think I'll just try to learn qemu. idk, right now qemu is unbearably slow |
| 01:30.25 | LinuxNIT-II | ill sell a letter for $250 |
| 01:31.10 | pales_rider | $250? |
| 01:31.15 | LinuxNIT-II | yep |
| 01:31.17 | pales_rider | hmmm |
| 01:31.26 | LinuxNIT-II | willl buy you a Letter |
| 01:31.35 | LinuxNIT-II | omg whats up with my l's |
| 01:31.40 | adamant1988 | haha |
| 01:31.47 | adamant1988 | well... brb |
| 01:31.49 | LinuxNIT-II | adamant1988, |
| 01:31.50 | LinuxNIT-II | wait |
| 01:31.53 | adamant1988 | ok |
| 01:31.57 | pales_rider | one letter for $250? |
| 01:32.05 | LinuxNIT-II | -m megs |
| 01:32.06 | LinuxNIT-II | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.11 | LinuxNIT-II | maybe give it more ram |
| 01:32.17 | adamant1988 | ok so would I do |
| 01:32.45 | adamant1988 | qemu -cdrom foo.iso -m 512 -hda img -boot d? |
| 01:33.12 | adamant1988 | awe hell I'll just try it |
| 01:33.17 | adamant1988 | worst I can do is break something |
| 01:33.17 | LinuxNIT-II | i think so that or -m 512megs but i bet yours is right |
| 01:33.28 | LinuxNIT-II | adamant1988, its qemu |
| 01:33.33 | LinuxNIT-II | its virtual |
| 01:33.55 | LinuxNIT-II | it wont break except possibly your iso wihc is re-downladable |
| 01:34.02 | LinuxNIT-II | but i doubt you could bread that either |
| 01:34.24 | LinuxNIT-II | then again knowing you...... |
| 01:34.27 | LinuxNIT-II | haha jk |
| 01:34.45 | LinuxNIT-II | pales_rider, yes |
| 01:34.59 | pales_rider | why so much? |
| 01:35.10 | LinuxNIT-II | i have good lettters |
| 01:35.12 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
| 01:35.26 | LinuxNIT-II | its my degree.... therefore i hace excelent letters |
| 01:35.36 | LinuxNIT-II | or have |
| 01:35.52 | LinuxNIT-II | dadgum spanish popping in |
| 01:36.12 | LinuxNIT-II | btw im on lplinux atm..... running from ram only no cd. |
| 01:36.29 | LinuxNIT-II | the toram boot options are soooo cool |
| 01:36.38 | adamant1988 | seems to be going a might faster |
| 01:36.45 | pales_rider | im in zenwalk |
| 01:36.45 | LinuxNIT-II | adamant1988, cool |
| 01:36.59 | pales_rider | i got it installed |
| 01:37.04 | LinuxNIT-II | fun |
| 01:37.15 | LinuxNIT-II | and the boot loader is working fine? |
| 01:37.34 | pales_rider | yes |
| 01:37.37 | LinuxNIT-II | cool |
| 01:37.39 | adamant1988 | yeah |
| 01:37.44 | pales_rider | its really fast too |
| 01:37.48 | LinuxNIT-II | hehe |
| 01:38.03 | LinuxNIT-II | running from ram is really really fast |
| 01:38.55 | pales_rider | sure is |
| 01:39.17 | LinuxNIT-II | no hd seek times |
| 01:39.19 | LinuxNIT-II | hehe |
| 01:39.35 | LinuxNIT-II | some programs are open before i finish the click |
| 01:40.29 | LinuxNIT-II | im about to see if i can load elive toram on my desktop.... for fun |
| 01:40.47 | pales_rider | cool |
| 01:41.23 | adamant1988 | zen is slackware based ya? |
| 01:41.34 | pale_horse | yes |
| 01:41.36 | LinuxNIT-II | :( |
| 01:41.42 | LinuxNIT-II | so much for me trying it |
| 01:41.46 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 01:41.54 | pales_rider | its nice |
| 01:41.59 | LinuxNIT-II | i cant stand rpm |
| 01:42.05 | LinuxNIT-II | irritates me |
| 01:42.06 | pale_horse | zen is faster than my tweaked and tuned gentoo stage 1 |
| 01:42.18 | pale_horse | it's tar.gz |
| 01:42.21 | pale_horse | not rpm |
| 01:42.37 | LinuxNIT-II | oh |
| 01:42.45 | pale_horse | oh |
| 01:42.48 | LinuxNIT-II | isnt slack rpm? |
| 01:42.53 | LinuxNIT-II | or no |
| 01:42.59 | pale_horse | no shit |
| 01:42.59 | pale_horse | oh |
| 01:43.00 | roxville | kin nope |
| 01:43.06 | roxville | lol |
| 01:43.17 | roxville | LinuxNIT, nope |
| 01:43.17 | pale_horse | speaking of which, know all your letters yet ? |
| 01:43.28 | LinuxNIT-II | almost...not quite |
| 01:43.30 | pales_rider | he he he |
| 01:43.32 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
| 01:43.33 | pale_horse | uh huh |
| 01:43.40 | LinuxNIT-II | there are sooooo many |
| 01:43.43 | pales_rider | i just asked to buy a vowel |
| 01:43.44 | pale_horse | so how is babalonian |
| 01:43.55 | pales_rider | he wants $250 for one letter |
| 01:43.56 | LinuxNIT-II | not too bad |
| 01:44.01 | pale_horse | can I buy a blargel ? |
| 01:44.03 | LinuxNIT-II | Akkadian was worse |
| 01:44.18 | LinuxNIT-II | its older and not so well documented |
| 01:45.04 | pale_horse | sanscrit ok now ? |
| 01:45.33 | LinuxNIT-II | havent gotten there yet... but shouldnt be too bad since it is one of the base languages of the middle east |
| 01:45.38 | pale_horse | LinuxNIT, ya know I'm goofin on ya |
| 01:45.48 | LinuxNIT-II | pale_horse, yeah i know... so am i |
| 01:46.02 | pale_horse | so farsie is "writing in coat hooks" |
| 01:46.02 | roxville | you are? |
| 01:46.11 | roxville | but... you are always like this! |
| 01:46.13 | LinuxNIT-II | roxville, yes |
| 01:46.43 | pale_horse | roxville, don't sell me short. |
| 01:47.18 | pale_horse | I have a cool ring that says I do puzzles really well |
| 01:47.19 | pales_rider | linuxnit goofed on me last night.lol |
| 01:47.26 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
| 01:47.30 | pales_rider | uh huh |
| 01:47.43 | pales_rider | and i fell for it BIG TIME |
| 01:47.48 | LinuxNIT-II | i couldnt resist |
| 01:47.56 | pales_rider | so i noticed |
| 01:47.57 | LinuxNIT-II | hook line and sinker |
| 01:47.57 | pale_horse | I got my puzzle ring in the 60s |
| 01:48.02 | pale_horse | he he he |
| 01:48.19 | pale_horse | if it ain't fun, why do it ? |
| 01:48.21 | LinuxNIT-II | it even had a warning sign on it :D |
| 01:49.02 | pales_rider | choking hazard? |
| 01:49.07 | LinuxNIT-II | so roxville how are you doing? |
| 01:49.10 | LinuxNIT-II | pales_rider, hehe |
| 01:49.11 | pale_horse | well pales_rider is a "linux_gal" now |
| 01:49.18 | pales_rider | finally |
| 01:49.24 | LinuxNIT-II | yay |
| 01:49.26 | LinuxNIT-II | congrats |
| 01:49.33 | pales_rider | <<< takes a bow |
| 01:49.39 | pale_horse | took a gentle hand and a soft voice |
| 01:49.51 | roxville | LinuxNIT, i'm cookin', baby |
| 01:49.57 | roxville | literally |
| 01:50.02 | LinuxNIT-II | pales_rider, /nick Linux-GAL |
| 01:50.16 | LinuxNIT-II | roxville, no A/C? |
| 01:50.16 | roxville | i spent 6 1/2 hours with the kids at the waterpark today |
| 01:50.22 | LinuxNIT-II | ahh |
| 01:50.24 | pale_horse | ZOMG |
| 01:50.32 | pale_horse | that's patience |
| 01:50.57 | roxville | nah, it was fun... just wish i tanned instead of burned... |
| 01:51.04 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 01:51.08 | LinuxNIT-II | that sucks |
| 01:51.16 | roxville | oh yeah |
| 01:52.02 | roxville | if i filled the tub with skin lotion and laid down in it, my skin would absorb about 90% of it |
| 01:52.17 | LinuxNIT-II | roxville, buy an aloe vera plant |
| 01:52.23 | roxville | not much left to splash in... |
| 01:52.37 | LinuxNIT-II | the pure aloe vera plant juice is 100 times better than any lotion |
| 01:52.49 | roxville | yeah, i have one every once in a while... it's great stuff |
| 01:52.54 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
| 01:54.01 | pales_rider | tea bags in a tub works good too |
| 01:54.12 | LinuxNIT-II | ?!?!?!!?!??!!?!? |
| 01:54.20 | LinuxNIT-II | ok that just sounds freaky |
| 01:54.29 | pales_rider | the tenic acid in the tea draws out the stinging |
| 01:54.36 | LinuxNIT-II | hmmmm |
| 01:54.52 | LinuxNIT-II | but does it help to actually heal it? |
| 01:54.59 | LinuxNIT-II | or just remove the sting? |
| 01:55.05 | pales_rider | it makes the damn pain stop..lol |
| 01:55.09 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 01:55.16 | roxville | yes, pales_rider is right... tea is good |
| 01:55.27 | pales_rider | ty chris |
| 01:55.28 | LinuxNIT-II | tea and crumpets all the way |
| 01:55.44 | roxville | lol] |
| 01:55.48 | pales_rider | i dont know what you are going to do with crumpets in the tub |
| 01:55.54 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 01:55.57 | LinuxNIT-II | eat them maybe |
| 01:56.02 | LinuxNIT-II | just a thought |
| 01:56.51 | pales_rider | uh huh |
| 01:57.04 | roxville | lol |
| 01:59.36 | LinuxNIT-II | holy shit |
| 01:59.47 | LinuxNIT-II | windows vista beta 2 is 3200 MB |
| 02:00.08 | LinuxNIT-II | dsl is 50 mb |
| 02:00.11 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 02:00.29 | roxville | the real vista will be even bigger |
| 02:00.36 | roxville | almost 15GB, i think |
| 02:00.39 | LinuxNIT-II | wtf |
| 02:00.52 | roxville | or... lemme rephrase that... |
| 02:01.02 | LinuxNIT-II | even more bloated |
| 02:01.13 | roxville | windows will require 20GB of space for vista |
| 02:01.50 | pale_horse | must snow in hell then |
| 02:02.12 | roxville | hehe |
| 02:02.40 | roxville | well... the eagles got back togther, didn't they? :D |
| 02:03.32 | LinuxNIT-II | eagles are an endangered species |
| 02:04.21 | LinuxNIT-II | pale_horse, havent you been watching the forcast? its been getting colder and colder in hell |
| 02:04.53 | pale_horse | well I'll chip ice |
| 02:05.37 | LinuxNIT-II | lmfao |
| 02:06.13 | LinuxNIT-II | LinuxNIT-II eagles are an endangered species<<< well the bald ones anyway |
| 02:06.26 | LinuxNIT-II | not sure about the others |
| 02:06.44 | roxville | what, the others are not going bald? |
| 02:07.01 | LinuxNIT-II | no they arent as old of a species yet |
| 02:07.01 | roxville | that's great! |
| 02:07.08 | LinuxNIT-II | give them time |
| 02:08.23 | roxville | :PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP |
| 02:08.23 | LinuxNIT-II | crap too much hair in the way..... ah well |
| 02:08.32 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
| 02:08.47 | roxville | it's so unfair that you get that gene from your mother... |
| 02:09.03 | LinuxNIT-II | actually i got my hair from my dad |
| 02:09.04 | roxville | my dad had all the hair he could ever want... and more! |
| 02:09.13 | LinuxNIT-II | we both had really really thick hair |
| 02:09.27 | LinuxNIT-II | my moms is kinda thin |
| 02:09.37 | roxville | well if your mom's dad was going bald... you will too |
| 02:10.02 | LinuxNIT-II | dunno... icant remeber ever meeting him.... if i did |
| 02:10.10 | LinuxNIT-II | he died years ago |
| 02:10.26 | roxville | it's not contageous like that... |
| 02:10.38 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 02:10.42 | roxville | it's more of a gene thing... |
| 02:10.51 | LinuxNIT-II | im just saying i dont remeber if he was going bald or not |
| 02:10.57 | LinuxNIT-II | cause i never met him |
| 02:11.05 | LinuxNIT-II | or dont remeber meeting him |
| 02:11.06 | roxville | "NOO gramps, don't pat my head, i'll go bald like you!" |
| 02:11.13 | LinuxNIT-II | i know its not contageous |
| 02:11.19 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 02:11.30 | LinuxNIT-II | 1o1 |
| 02:11.50 | LinuxNIT-II | on my system the 1 and the l look almost the same |
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| 02:12.46 | roxville | <LinuxNIT-II> on my system the 1 and the l look almost the same |
| 02:13.00 | LinuxNIT-II | ? |
| 02:13.12 | LinuxNIT-II | why |
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| 02:13.25 | roxville | i'm just messin' wi'ya |
| 02:13.27 | LinuxNIT-II | roxville, is some one sitting behind you with a stun gun? |
| 02:13.39 | roxville | hehe |
| 02:13.42 | LinuxNIT-II | ;) |
| 02:13.44 | roxville | good 'un |
| 02:13.54 | LinuxNIT-II | ty |
| 02:13.55 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
| 02:14.22 | roxville | yw... that was what i call "a snappy comeback" |
| 02:14.29 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
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| 02:16.37 | roxville | now, if you'll excuse me, i have a mission on the dark side... |
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| 05:29.22 | wasynyt | good morning everyone |
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| 05:35.15 | wasynyt | good morning maxtoo |
| 05:35.40 | maxtoo | wasynyt, hi ;) |
| 05:37.15 | wasynyt | how are you doing ? |
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| 05:44.14 | Elive_user5 | who is here? |
| 05:45.57 | wasynyt | good mornign Elive_user5 |
| 05:46.02 | Elive_user5 | hello! |
| 05:46.04 | wasynyt | *morning |
| 05:46.21 | Elive_user5 | how do I configure my hardware? the cursor moves so slow and I cant click by tapping on the touchpad |
| 05:46.24 | Elive_user5 | any ideas? |
| 05:46.29 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 05:46.43 | wasynyt | do you ati's chipset in your laptop |
| 05:46.50 | wasynyt | *do you have |
| 05:47.03 | Elive_user5 | no, nvidia |
| 05:47.08 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 05:47.34 | wasynyt | and in boot you chose the correct nvidia new driver ? |
| 05:47.54 | Elive_user5 | yes |
| 05:48.02 | Elive_user5 | the problem is with touchpad |
| 05:48.42 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 05:49.07 | Elive_user5 | isnt there a control panel to configure cursor speed ? |
| 05:49.17 | Elive_user5 | of the mouse ? |
| 05:49.17 | wasynyt | yeah the elpanel |
| 05:49.25 | Elive_user5 | how do I get there ? |
| 05:50.06 | wasynyt | it is in the bar in the bottom in the screen.. and elpanel is in the right |
| 05:50.34 | Elive_user5 | is there a keyboard shortcut ? |
| 05:50.49 | wasynyt | i dont actually know |
| 05:51.09 | Elive_user5 | all windows are maximized |
| 05:51.21 | Elive_user5 | how do I minimize them |
| 05:51.34 | wasynyt | there is a button for that in them |
| 05:51.49 | Elive_user5 | I cant see this button |
| 05:51.55 | Elive_user5 | I am in fullscreen mode |
| 05:52.08 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 05:52.26 | wasynyt | what app are you running |
| 05:52.28 | wasynyt | xchat |
| 05:52.30 | wasynyt | ? |
| 05:52.32 | Elive_user5 | yes |
| 05:53.50 | Elive_user5 | got it |
| 05:54.00 | wasynyt | good |
| 05:54.00 | Elive_user5 | I clicked on the windows key |
| 05:54.03 | wasynyt | :D |
| 05:54.11 | Elive_user5 | ms windows |
| 05:54.35 | wasynyt | can you now see the elpanel icon in botton bar |
| 05:54.50 | wasynyt | what about it |
| 05:55.10 | Elive_user5 | the ms windows key |
| 05:55.18 | wasynyt | ahh |
| 05:55.33 | Elive_user5 | I go to the look'n'feel configuration ? |
| 05:55.46 | wasynyt | nope yo ushould go to admin section |
| 05:55.57 | Elive_user5 | the one that has the ms windows icon, there is in every keyboard |
| 05:56.11 | wasynyt | ok |
| 05:56.13 | wasynyt | try it |
| 05:57.14 | Elive_user5 | after admin section ? |
| 05:58.06 | wasynyt | dunno.. is there anything that looks good ? |
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| 06:01.23 | wasynyt | good morning cornelius[cz] |
| 06:01.54 | Elive_user5 | cornelius you run elive ? |
| 06:02.06 | cornelius[cz] | good morning guys |
| 06:02.14 | cornelius[cz] | Elive_user5: nope, ubuntu |
| 06:04.30 | Elive_user5 | should I go with ubuntu, kubuntu or xubuntu ? |
| 06:05.44 | wasynyt | try them all and use the one that suits you best |
| 06:05.58 | Elive_user5 | all have live cd s ? |
| 06:06.14 | wasynyt | i think so |
| 06:06.32 | Elive_user5 | wasynyt, what do you use |
| 06:07.50 | wasynyt | i use opensuse 10.1, suse 9.3 and macos x 10.4.6 |
| 06:08.02 | Elive_user5 | macos on intel ? |
| 06:08.45 | wasynyt | yeah.. but i only s one os in one comp |
| 06:08.57 | wasynyt | *only use |
| 06:09.32 | Elive_user5 | you use mac computer or intel ? |
| 06:10.58 | wasynyt | i have ibm a22m (old p3 1 ghz) new mackbook (not pro 2x 1.88 ) and desktop that has amd 2600+ |
| 06:11.22 | wasynyt | so i use mac computer that is intel |
| 06:11.29 | Elive_user5 | aww ok |
| 06:11.41 | Elive_user5 | I downloading macos with patch for intel to try it |
| 06:12.03 | wasynyt | :S |
| 06:12.09 | wasynyt | i think you should not |
| 06:12.32 | wasynyt | it is not ok to use macos in every machine on earth |
| 06:13.02 | wasynyt | because apple says so... and the same rules apply for every other propietary os |
| 06:14.00 | Elive_user5 | but I want to test it before I purchase a mac |
| 06:14.25 | wasynyt | well that is not going to be good "test" as the driver support in mac is really poor |
| 06:14.40 | wasynyt | it support only that hardware that apple puts it in |
| 06:14.56 | wasynyt | so there is no drivers for other motherboards etc |
| 06:17.16 | wasynyt | so if you really want test macos you should find a mac |
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| 12:27.43 | detox | good morning |
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| 13:25.09 | detox | hello |
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| 13:27.32 | detox | helllo |
| 13:29.27 | pales_rider | hi detox |
| 13:32.07 | detox | hi |
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| 13:32.17 | detox | what ya know about straight debian? |
| 13:35.22 | pale_horse | straight forward enough install |
| 13:35.29 | pale_horse | morning detox |
| 13:36.24 | detox | hi |
| 13:36.41 | detox | i apt getted enlightenment |
| 13:36.50 | detox | but it dows not show up on log in screen |
| 13:36.54 | detox | how do i get it tehre? |
| 13:37.25 | pale_horse | what login manager did you install |
| 13:37.33 | detox | debian? |
| 13:37.43 | pale_horse | xdm gdm kdm etc |
| 13:38.01 | detox | oh probably gdm |
| 13:38.02 | detox | i guess |
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| 13:38.12 | detox | hoiw do i find out? |
| 13:39.00 | pale_horse | besides e what else you have for a DE ? |
| 13:44.40 | detox | ok using gdm |
| 13:48.03 | pale_horse | ok good |
| 13:48.22 | pale_horse | lemme think where the gdm config file is |
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| 13:58.52 | pale_horse | detox http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gdm_setup |
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| 14:12.48 | detox | i dont have that on debian |
| 14:14.06 | pale_horse | don't have what ? |
| 14:14.19 | detox | those dir.s |
| 14:14.38 | pale_horse | unfortunately debian has shitty docs |
| 14:15.39 | detox | well there is a lot ,, and I had the answer 6 months ago ,, but as many things I write down they travel into the nether world |
| 14:16.17 | pale_horse | there is a gmn config utility but dang is I know the cli |
| 14:17.40 | pale_horse | do you have an /etc/X11/Sessions dir ? |
| 14:18.37 | detox | no |
| 14:19.35 | pale_horse | I looked around and debian docs just suck |
| 14:21.59 | detox | welll give me a way to install gentoo from floppy and I will do so like now |
| 14:26.02 | pale_horse | there aren't many dists left that will do that |
| 14:26.02 | adamant1988 | ok that tics me off lol. |
| 14:26.37 | pale_horse | detox what do you have now ? |
| 14:26.42 | adamant1988 | Detox, it's just not happening anymore... unfortunately floppies are going the way of the dodo |
| 14:26.52 | pale_horse | that's a fact |
| 14:27.21 | adamant1988 | in fact now it costs extra to get a floppy disk read installed in your computer, they're no longer included by default. |
| 14:27.45 | detox | look at this ok>>>>> |
| 14:27.49 | detox | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml |
| 14:27.50 | pale_horse | pull the drive, put it in another box and install the base of something then put it back and finish your install |
| 14:28.25 | adamant1988 | you get props from me for even looking at gentoo |
| 14:28.30 | adamant1988 | I wouldn't install it =\ |
| 14:29.10 | detox | i cannot pull the HD,, it will not fit in any other machine i have due to dimentions |
| 14:29.17 | pale_horse | my poor little gentoo has xorg7 and xgl - it sucks and I need to blow it away |
| 14:29.36 | detox | did you look at tehlink I send? |
| 14:29.37 | adamant1988 | http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=8690 |
| 14:29.44 | adamant1988 | that should help.. |
| 14:30.38 | adamant1988 | pale_horse: I wasn't saying it was outdated, I was just saying it's a ton more difficult to install than debian |
| 14:30.51 | pale_horse | yes it is |
| 14:30.59 | pale_horse | and maintaining it is a bitch |
| 14:31.14 | adamant1988 | that was my next point... you spend more time tweaking than using... |
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| 14:31.22 | adamant1988 | just not a good productive desktop enviroment |
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| 14:31.26 | adamant1988 | more for the hobbyist |
| 14:31.26 | pale_horse | once it's tweaked you are done |
| 14:31.38 | pale_horse | Nono, more for the developer |
| 14:31.50 | detox | ok ,, this how to from Adam stats you still must have a cdrom tht works |
| 14:32.03 | pale_horse | you have a USB |
| 14:32.11 | pale_horse | there are boot floppies that will see it |
| 14:32.16 | pale_horse | did you install DSL ? |
| 14:32.20 | detox | yes but it will not boot from usb |
| 14:32.26 | adamant1988 | why not? |
| 14:32.34 | detox | and my usb pen drive is 128 meg |
| 14:32.46 | detox | yes dsl works great |
| 14:32.54 | adamant1988 | then why bother with debian? |
| 14:33.13 | pale_horse | then replace the /knoppix/knoppix with the same file from I9NV-2 |
| 14:33.20 | detox | oh wait ,,,,,, dsl is on the machine with working cdrom |
| 14:33.32 | adamant1988 | I'm so confused.. |
| 14:33.37 | pale_horse | what version DSL ? |
| 14:33.40 | detox | i put debian on the NO CD laptop |
| 14:33.45 | detox | newest beta |
| 14:33.52 | adamant1988 | you put DSL on the machine that you could boot a full distro from, but you've put debian on the one you can't? |
| 14:34.11 | pale_horse | then I can't help you with that - I quit at 1.5 and still have it |
| 14:34.14 | detox | all I have access to on that machine is a floppy drive |
| 14:34.25 | pale_horse | after 1.5 it got crappy |
| 14:34.27 | detox | cannot use cdrom,,, will not access usb |
| 14:34.44 | adamant1988 | so both machines are floppy only? |
| 14:34.50 | detox | no,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, |
| 14:34.53 | detox | aaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggg |
| 14:34.54 | pale_horse | DSL offers a facility to do that like I told you |
| 14:34.55 | detox | ok |
| 14:35.02 | adamant1988 | ok, why not put DSL on the machine that's floppy only |
| 14:35.11 | adamant1988 | it should be small enough |
| 14:35.21 | adamant1988 | and then you can put a larger distro on the one that's working |
| 14:35.22 | detox | laptop 1 ==== everything works is 700 ghz 128 ram |
| 14:35.56 | detox | laptop 2==== no cd usb will not boot has floppy only is 1 ghz 128 ram |
| 14:36.10 | detox | put dsl on laptop 1 |
| 14:36.23 | adamant1988 | ok that's the thing I'm not getting |
| 14:36.28 | detox | put debian on laptop 2 using a floppy net install |
| 14:36.33 | adamant1988 | why did you put DSL on that one rather than the one with floppy only |
| 14:36.34 | detox | confusing i know |
| 14:36.46 | detox | dsl too big for floppy |
| 14:37.00 | adamant1988 | =\ |
| 14:37.10 | detox | dsl is 50 meg |
| 14:37.12 | adamant1988 | well then it sounds like you're doing what you can |
| 14:37.14 | detox | floppy = 1.44 |
| 14:37.36 | detox | and now am hav ing configuration issues with debian and cannot remember how to fix |
| 14:37.37 | pale_horse | there is a floppy that will allow you to load dsl from your non-bootable USB CD |
| 14:37.40 | detox | want elive |
| 14:37.56 | pale_horse | debian != elive |
| 14:40.38 | adamant1988 | detox |
| 14:40.48 | adamant1988 | why don't you just install the enlightenment WM on debian? |
| 14:40.53 | detox | and , in closing, let me just say this ............................. |
| 14:41.00 | detox | AAAAAAGGGGRRRRRGGGGGGGGRTRGGGGGGGGGGGGGG |
| 14:41.20 | detox | i did but it will not show up on boot screen |
| 14:41.46 | detox | and i do not remember how to add it to session list |
| 14:42.11 | adamant1988 | look it up lol |
| 14:42.18 | adamant1988 | google is your friend |
| 14:42.19 | detox | arrg |
| 14:42.24 | detox | i did and cannot find it |
| 14:42.29 | detox | yes i know |
| 14:42.29 | adamant1988 | I have to go get ready for work. Good luck man |
| 14:42.33 | detox | cannot find answer |
| 14:42.40 | pale_horse | I'm asking some friends what file you want to edit |
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| 14:42.47 | detox | coward! run away! run away! |
| 14:43.02 | detox | hide at work |
| 14:43.35 | detox | hey roxville!! |
| 14:44.27 | pale_horse | detox, did you ask in #debian ? |
| 14:44.50 | detox | yes |
| 14:44.56 | detox | was blown off |
| 14:45.20 | pale_horse | sheesh what assholes |
| 14:45.36 | roxville | <detox> coward! run away! run away! <-- hmmm having a bad day? :) |
| 14:46.38 | pale_horse | /etc/gdm/Xsession |
| 14:47.56 | pale_horse | /etc/gdm has all the other stuf |
| 14:48.41 | pale_horse | and /etc/init.d/gdm |
| 14:48.51 | detox | brb |
| 14:50.57 | roxville | damn #debian... this is NOT good... |
| 14:51.06 | roxville | why do they have to be like that? |
| 14:51.16 | pale_horse | they are twits |
| 14:51.40 | pale_horse | and debian is crap any more - crappy docs and slow releases |
| 14:52.49 | detox | back |
| 14:54.47 | roxville | hi detox how are you? |
| 14:55.20 | detox | very goiod jsut frustrated |
| 14:55.22 | roxville | i apologize for not having had time for you... been busy trying to keep the family busy |
| 14:55.38 | detox | no apology needed |
| 14:55.45 | detox | family comes first always |
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| 14:57.07 | roxville | thank you |
| 14:57.23 | roxville | anyway... apology or not... i'm sorry :) |
| 14:58.36 | detox | here is the quandry |
| 14:58.51 | detox | I did net install on a laptop which has no cdrom |
| 14:58.57 | detox | installing debian sarge |
| 14:59.17 | detox | my mousepad wanders by itself |
| 14:59.31 | roxville | ahhh |
| 14:59.40 | roxville | have you tried a mousetrap? |
| 14:59.41 | detox | and i installed enlightenemnt and cannot figure out how to get in the sessions menu on the log in screen |
| 15:00.07 | detox | wanted elive on it ,, but with no cdrom i cannot |
| 15:00.14 | roxville | this is why i jumped high when i found elive |
| 15:00.19 | detox | cannot use dsl ,, no cd |
| 15:00.26 | roxville | i understand |
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| 15:00.45 | detox | if i could get elive as a floppy net install i'd do it but have not found a way to do so |
| 15:00.54 | detox | so that is my prob |
| 15:01.50 | detox | i'd put dsl on it ,, but I have to install via floppy |
| 15:01.54 | detox | aarrrgggg |
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| 15:02.25 | detox | if i could learn how to do net install from other pc on the net i'd do that |
| 15:02.37 | detox | but i think it is more hassle thatn anyone would care to endure |
| 15:03.35 | roxville | yeah, i don't think it's an easy feat |
| 15:03.54 | detox | so here we are,,, broken hearted ,,,,,,, |
| 15:04.21 | roxville | damn... i'm sorry man... |
| 15:05.49 | detox | oh well |
| 15:08.09 | roxville | detox, have a look at pentoo or mpentoo |
| 15:08.16 | roxville | or eve austrumi |
| 15:08.21 | roxville | they all use e17 |
| 15:08.35 | roxville | and are small and light |
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| 15:10.56 | detox | penttoo? |
| 15:10.59 | roxville | pale_horse, you're not having too much fun today either, eh? |
| 15:11.13 | pale_horse_ | oh I'm fine I'm tweaking my net |
| 15:11.14 | egrub | mpentoo viene E17 |
| 15:11.16 | roxville | pentoo |
| 15:11.20 | pale_horse_ | mpentoo |
| 15:11.26 | pale_horse_ | pentoo is gnome |
| 15:11.27 | roxville | yes mpentoo |
| 15:11.32 | roxville | egrub, gracias :) |
| 15:11.36 | pale_horse_ | mpentoo is e17 |
| 15:11.40 | egrub | roxville, thank! :) |
| 15:11.53 | roxville | :) |
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| 15:13.39 | Corgan | Hello, all. |
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| 15:13.57 | detox | cant use ,, will fit on 258 pen drive mine is 128 |
| 15:14.09 | roxville | hello Corgan |
| 15:14.10 | pale_horse_ | lplinux then |
| 15:14.14 | roxville | hiya ee_lars :) |
| 15:14.14 | pale_horse_ | it fits a 128 |
| 15:14.24 | detox | 'mpentoo? |
| 15:14.27 | Corgan | I'm quite amazed with this. |
| 15:14.36 | ee_lars | hello roxville :) |
| 15:14.43 | ee_lars | hello all |
| 15:14.43 | roxville | detox, yes... mpentoo |
| 15:15.10 | ee_lars | wow the pentoo crew is here :) |
| 15:15.33 | roxville | hehe |
| 15:15.56 | Corgan | Mind if I ask a generic n00b question? |
| 15:15.57 | roxville | detox, ee_lars here used mpentoo for a while, maybe he can answer some questions |
| 15:16.50 | detox | pentoo Pentoo is a Gentoo-based live CD with a collection of tools designed for penetration testing. A new "mini" edition, fitting on a 256 MB USB storage device and featuring the Enlightenment 17 window manager, |
| 15:18.38 | roxville | Corgan, not at all, go ahead! |
| 15:18.56 | Corgan | Well first time playing with Elive. |
| 15:19.33 | Corgan | Must say, this is a beautiful experience. Even on a 550MHz AMD. And everythings so fully integrated and immediately installed. It's quite nice. Quite nice. |
| 15:20.06 | ee_lars | yes roxville :) |
| 15:20.20 | roxville | thank you, we like it too... most of the time :D |
| 15:20.35 | ee_lars | i just installed it to test |
| 15:20.43 | ee_lars | it's really FASTTTTTTTTTT |
| 15:20.47 | Corgan | I'm considering installing it. |
| 15:20.58 | Corgan | Would you warn against it? |
| 15:21.45 | Corgan | Or rather is it not practical? |
| 15:21.46 | ee_lars | no Corgan |
| 15:21.51 | roxville | Corgan, against installing elive? not at all! it's great installed |
| 15:21.53 | ee_lars | elive is good |
| 15:22.12 | roxville | Corgan, what version are you using now? |
| 15:22.41 | Corgan | I just downloaded the ISO, uh...didn't make note of it. But using Enlightenment 17. |
| 15:22.58 | ee_lars | roxville : are you on the 0.5 now? |
| 15:24.34 | roxville | ee_lars, yes i am... the testing version |
| 15:24.44 | ee_lars | is it good? :) |
| 15:24.45 | Corgan | Wow. |
| 15:24.46 | Corgan | I just. |
| 15:24.50 | Corgan | This is really nice. |
| 15:25.20 | roxville | ee_lars, yes it is great... getting better and better all the time |
| 15:25.48 | ee_lars | i tried to install my network module but i've got an error each time :/ |
| 15:26.01 | ee_lars | so i can't really test the 0.5 |
| 15:26.19 | Corgan | I am on 0.4.2 |
| 15:27.00 | Corgan | Sorry. Had to check. I just installed Ubuntu 6.06, but I caught an Elive video at OSVideos and it looked attractive. I'm guessing that was Enlightenment 16. |
| 15:27.23 | ee_lars | Corgan : i'm running ubuntu too :) |
| 15:27.55 | detox | I saw a program that would split an ISO into 1.44 chunks to put on floppy... is there a way I could xtract enough to put on floppy and do net install ,, or does elive allow for rescue disk to be created? Maybe I could isntall from that? |
| 15:28.13 | Corgan | A valiant effort, itself. But. Wow. This is really great. I like the codecs all being installed. |
| 15:28.23 | Corgan | How light weight it is. And this all live. I can't imagine how it'd run installed. |
| 15:28.45 | roxville | Corgan, if you would, please try the testing iso of elive0.5 |
| 15:29.09 | Corgan | Sure thing, Roxville. Even better I would assume? |
| 15:29.31 | roxville | detox, i bet you could... damn that's a LOT of floppies! |
| 15:30.04 | roxville | Corgan, yes it is... more stable and... even faster, actually |
| 15:30.10 | detox | ya too many for me actually .... but do you thing elive could be made to do net install off a floppy? |
| 15:30.13 | ee_lars | get you floppy copy of elive : only 400 floppies needed |
| 15:30.53 | pale_horse_ | can't you pull the drive out of pmne lappy and put it in the other ? |
| 15:30.55 | Corgan | Wow. |
| 15:30.59 | Corgan | I'm just. Blown away. |
| 15:31.00 | pale_horse_ | that IS the solution |
| 15:31.03 | roxville | detox, i am sorry, but i have no knowledge about things like that... better ask pale_horse or GPLGeek |
| 15:31.23 | roxville | detox, pale_horse_ is right! |
| 15:31.30 | roxville | THAT is the solution |
| 15:31.43 | detox | hd will not fit in another laptop |
| 15:31.45 | detox | sorry |
| 15:31.46 | detox | tried it |
| 15:31.59 | pale_horse_ | take them out of the carriers |
| 15:32.04 | ee_lars | pale_horse_ : do you know something about kernel modules compiling? |
| 15:32.13 | Corgan | Haha, I might get right on that, Roxville, this is amazing. |
| 15:32.21 | pale_horse_ | ee_lars, I have done it a time or 2 |
| 15:32.50 | ee_lars | i try to compile my network module for elive |
| 15:32.50 | pale_horse_ | yes |
| 15:32.50 | ee_lars | but i'm getting errors :/ |
| 15:32.59 | ee_lars | can i paste you the result? |
| 15:33.10 | pale_horse_ | sure use pastebin.com |
| 15:33.17 | pale_horse_ | then paste me the link |
| 15:33.27 | roxville | does anyone have the mirror list for the 0.5testing? |
| 15:33.41 | ee_lars | ok pale_horse_ |
| 15:34.31 | Corgan | I'm poking around for it, now. Rox. |
| 15:34.43 | Corgan | Question, how's the email client in 0.5 stack up? |
| 15:34.47 | ee_lars | pale_horse_ : http://pastebin.com/770188 |
| 15:35.02 | roxville | Corgan, this is the last testing iso before release... elive's ONLY developer, Thanatermesis made it and went on vacation... he'll return in two weeks and fix the few bugs that we have noticed |
| 15:35.11 | roxville | and release the official version |
| 15:35.19 | pale_horse_ | ee_lars, checking |
| 15:35.24 | ee_lars | thx :) |
| 15:35.38 | roxville | Corgan, it's Thunderbird... i use it... i like it |
| 15:35.46 | roxville | it's a matter of taste, i guess |
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| 15:36.03 | Corgan | Ah Thunderbird? I can handle that just fine |
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| 15:36.18 | Corgan | Haha. |
| 15:36.23 | Corgan | Wow. You'll have to excuse me. |
| 15:36.26 | Corgan | I'm just. So pleased. |
| 15:36.35 | roxville | lol |
| 15:37.14 | Corgan | Oh just one question. Is there a time dialog anywhere? |
| 15:37.22 | pale_horse_ | ee_lars, do you have kernel sources & headers installed ? it's wanting them |
| 15:37.23 | Corgan | Haha. One -more question. |
| 15:37.38 | roxville | yeah... click on the folder with the tools on it |
| 15:37.48 | roxville | it's called Elpanel |
| 15:37.48 | ee_lars | pale_horse_ : i just have the elive installed |
| 15:37.55 | roxville | or elive control panel |
| 15:38.00 | Corgan | Woah. |
| 15:38.04 | ee_lars | i don't know if it gives the sources and headers |
| 15:38.06 | pale_horse_ | ok you need kernel sources and headers |
| 15:38.12 | ee_lars | ah ok |
| 15:38.15 | ee_lars | thank you |
| 15:38.16 | pale_horse_ | you need to apt-get them |
| 15:38.33 | pale_horse_ | then the make module should work |
| 15:38.34 | ee_lars | how can i apt-get them without internet connection? :D |
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| 15:38.56 | roxville | and Corgan ... it's behind the user icon |
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| 15:39.22 | ee_lars | roxville : do you wear the swedish soccer jersey? :D |
| 15:39.59 | roxville | lol ee_lars no... i really should... but i don't have one :/ |
| 15:40.09 | ee_lars | lol |
| 15:40.22 | roxville | don't think i can get it here in charleston either... |
| 15:40.42 | roxville | no swedish stores in the area... gotta go to minnesota for that... |
| 15:41.06 | ee_lars | hmmmmm buy the Costa Rica one then :) |
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| 15:42.07 | Corgan | Wow. |
| 15:42.56 | roxville | ee_lars, lol |
| 15:43.11 | roxville | it's gonna be an exciting WC... |
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| 15:43.26 | roxville | i have no idea if sweden will do well or not... |
| 15:43.52 | ee_lars | me too |
| 15:43.54 | roxville | i like playing soccer... but watching it is less fun |
| 15:44.08 | ee_lars | i don't care about the result |
| 15:44.21 | roxville | lol, ok |
| 15:44.30 | Corgan | I'm going to boot back into Ubuntu and do some file moving and backups, then burn the newest Devel. ISO. |
| 15:44.31 | ee_lars | but i gave 5€ on argentina victory |
| 15:44.38 | roxville | i know, i know... you're in it for the girls... |
| 15:44.39 | ee_lars | cause dererk needs it :) |
| 15:44.47 | Corgan | Thanks for your help guys. This really looks like it's worth a shot. |
| 15:44.49 | ee_lars | looool |
| 15:44.59 | roxville | Corgan, not a problem! |
| 15:45.05 | roxville | welcome back! |
| 15:45.12 | ee_lars | have fun Corgan |
| 15:45.43 | Corgan | Thank you. Gotta go out for a while, but, keep an eye out for me later, I hope to see you guys. |
| 15:48.17 | dererk | ... |
| 15:48.32 | ee_lars | nooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 15:48.35 | ee_lars | hell is here |
| 15:48.46 | dererk | I don't give a fuck about worldcup |
| 15:48.50 | ee_lars | hola dererk :) |
| 15:48.55 | dererk | in fact I hate it |
| 15:48.59 | dererk | hey ee_lars |
| 15:49.17 | ee_lars | you should take care cause agentinian tennis players are at home :D |
| 15:50.01 | roxville | lol |
| 15:50.21 | dererk | at home? |
| 15:50.48 | roxville | hehe |
| 15:51.05 | roxville | yep. said so in the papers |
| 15:51.53 | roxville | "AT HOME WITH THE ARGENTINIAN TENNIS PLAYERS! EXTRA, EXTRA, READ ALL ABOUT IT!" |
| 15:51.57 | ee_lars | yes rolland garros is over for argentina lol |
| 15:52.22 | roxville | AHHH THAT'S WHAT HE MEANT... |
| 15:52.45 | roxville | they are out of the french open... |
| 15:52.48 | dererk | ee_lars, I don't care really |
| 15:53.05 | ee_lars | oO i thought you were a tennis pro |
| 15:53.05 | dererk | I don't follow proffessional "sports" |
| 15:53.08 | ee_lars | lyier |
| 15:53.09 | ee_lars | lol |
| 15:53.11 | dererk | I do |
| 15:53.13 | dererk | ;) |
| 15:53.22 | dererk | But I dont follow that bussiness |
| 15:53.55 | dererk | I prefer to perform myself, and not see other earning much $$$ doing it |
| 15:53.55 | ee_lars | do you only care about opensource tennis? |
| 15:54.03 | ee_lars | ahah |
| 15:54.08 | roxville | MAO! |
| 15:54.15 | dererk | Paid sports are not SPORTS |
| 15:54.17 | dererk | are jobs |
| 15:54.21 | roxville | LMAO! even |
| 15:54.34 | dererk | and well paid |
| 15:54.48 | dererk | why should I make them make money? |
| 15:54.50 | ee_lars | sure |
| 15:55.00 | roxville | still, it took some sports to get there |
| 15:55.20 | ee_lars | the dererk sport is : beer drinker |
| 15:55.28 | dererk | ... |
| 15:55.31 | ee_lars | will be famous in 1 year |
| 15:55.33 | ee_lars | for sure! |
| 15:55.54 | ee_lars | dererk's guest in adidas pub :) |
| 15:55.58 | dererk | roxville, of course, but It's first a job... and they make money for ppl looking at them |
| 15:56.07 | dererk | If nobody takes them attention |
| 15:56.19 | dererk | the wont be as well paid |
| 15:56.28 | dererk | anyway |
| 15:56.38 | dererk | do what you want |
| 15:56.50 | dererk | I prefer not to make others money by my time :) |
| 15:57.03 | dererk | s/by/from/ |
| 15:57.08 | dererk | right apt |
| 15:57.14 | ee_lars | i heard that Marocco and Algeria will be unanle to watch the world cup cause the channels did'nt have enough money to pay the rights |
| 15:57.16 | ee_lars | what a pity |
| 16:00.15 | detox | ok how to force a reinstall with apt-gt ? apt-get -f prog? |
| 16:01.21 | roxville | pale_horse_, i don't get it... http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6081882.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=zdnn |
| 16:01.42 | roxville | did the vote FOR a free internet or against it? |
| 16:01.42 | pale_horse_ | checking |
| 16:02.57 | MetaPhaze_laptop | roxville, ever use fruity loops? |
| 16:03.48 | roxville | MetaPhaze, yeah... you hear the result every time you boot your elive... |
| 16:04.11 | roxville | MetaPhaze_laptop, , yeah... you hear the result every time you boot your elive... |
| 16:04.41 | Gwildor | roxville, tehy voted AGAINST neutrality....YES for leeching more money |
| 16:05.18 | Gwildor | roxville, fromw aht i gather...currently, they can do whatever they feel....the bill is proposed to make it HAVE to be neutral....... |
| 16:06.04 | pale_horse_ | it means that major players - google - M$ etc will pay for the bandwidth they use to the ISPs |
| 16:06.16 | pale_horse_ | AOL will prolly be the hardest hit |
| 16:06.28 | MetaPhaze_laptop | roxville, i don't use elive anymore... i'm a gentoo man.. only use elive as a livecd when i need to... anyway... i run e16 natively... is there a fruity loops like program for linux? |
| 16:06.31 | Gwildor | youtube :P |
| 16:06.32 | pale_horse_ | it don't affect normals if I read it right |
| 16:06.48 | Gwildor | pale_horse_, well, the we will ahve to start paying for "free" services |
| 16:07.06 | pale_horse_ | no |
| 16:07.15 | pale_horse_ | they are paid by advertisers |
| 16:07.30 | pale_horse_ | that's why google makes gazillions a year |
| 16:07.38 | Gwildor | pale_horse_, the ONLY thing that really bugs me about it is.......the *googles* and *amazons* ALREADY pay for service....or we wouldnt be able to conenct to them ne ways...........so how can they say "start to charge them"...wehn tehy are already charged |
| 16:07.57 | Gwildor | google doesnt currently get FRE bandwidth...... |
| 16:08.08 | pale_horse_ | it does from my isp |
| 16:08.18 | Gwildor | no it doesnt |
| 16:08.20 | Gwildor | YOU pay for that |
| 16:08.31 | Gwildor | if YOU didnt pay, you wouldnt be able to connect |
| 16:08.31 | pale_horse_ | there are details that I haven't read yet |
| 16:08.52 | Gwildor | i pay on my end, they pay on there end....we connect.....both of us are already paying |
| 16:09.07 | roxville | MetaPhaze_laptop, there is one... but not att all in the same class "lmms" |
| 16:09.12 | pale_horse_ | but I don't pay for forced content |
| 16:09.29 | pale_horse_ | I don't want google ads eating my pipe |
| 16:09.34 | MetaPhaze_laptop | roxville, ok then i will just try and wine it :D |
| 16:09.45 | Gwildor | pale_horse_, well, you do...by going to googel.com.... |
| 16:10.01 | roxville | damn, this is fucking amazing... how could it EVER come to this????? |
| 16:10.11 | pale_horse_ | so they get my ISP's b/w for free |
| 16:10.26 | Gwildor | no..not at all |
| 16:10.33 | pale_horse_ | oh yes |
| 16:10.36 | pale_horse_ | yes they do |
| 16:11.09 | Gwildor | if its free, then you are throwing your money away |
| 16:11.20 | Gwildor | YOU pay for the BW |
| 16:11.28 | Gwildor | thats how it gets to your house |
| 16:11.31 | Gwildor | cuz you pay |
| 16:12.27 | roxville | i never thought it would go through... how can they restrict the internet? |
| 16:12.49 | Gwildor | hehe, exaclty what im saying....how is this an issue....besides the fact they are greedy |
| 16:12.56 | roxville | it is unbe-fucking-lievable |
| 16:13.31 | Gwildor | how would you feel if meijer showwed up at your house demanding that you pay mroe for the milk you bought.....because you used a cup to drink it, instead of direclty out of the jug......same thing |
| 16:14.08 | Gwildor | just doesnt maek sence |
| 16:14.44 | roxville | but i always drink out of the jug! |
| 16:14.50 | Gwildor | :P |
| 16:15.01 | detox | well ,,, I got fluxbox to install and it popped up in the sessions tab as well as xfce4 |
| 16:15.17 | roxville | lol, good thing there are no ladies... oops, pales_rider is here... sorry! |
| 16:15.19 | detox | am reinstalling enlightenment now to see if it will show up also |
| 16:15.26 | roxville | i mean, i NEVER drink out of the jug! |
| 16:15.41 | Gwildor | :P |
| 16:15.43 | roxville | ok detox :) |
| 16:15.59 | detox | this a maybe yahooo |
| 16:16.30 | Gwildor | roxville, as long as you shout "community" jstu before you drink out of it the first time...tis fair game....jstu realize that "communiuty" means everyone else can drink out the jug too......thats howt eh 2-liters ar treated @ my house |
| 16:16.50 | roxville | detox, IMO, setting up e is hell... use anothr wm... like xfce |
| 16:17.24 | roxville | Gwildor, lol |
| 16:17.38 | detox | nope no success and i cannot find the config file to adjsut |
| 16:17.42 | roxville | that's a good metaphor... did you really come up with it yourself? |
| 16:17.54 | detox | and , my mosue still travels across the screen by itself |
| 16:18.08 | Gwildor | the milk charged more....or the community? |
| 16:18.17 | pale_horse_ | detox I gave you all the places that gdm files are |
| 16:18.19 | roxville | the milk thing |
| 16:18.26 | Gwildor | ya....jsut before i typed it |
| 16:19.05 | detox | yes and i do not see them sorry |
| 16:19.15 | Gwildor | roxville, the "special" ppl i work with FORCE me to come up w/ metaphores on the fly |
| 16:19.36 | roxville | hehe |
| 16:19.42 | roxville | good for them! |
| 16:20.09 | roxville | it's a true talent to be able to do that quickly |
| 16:21.21 | Gwildor | you know....ur the third erson latly to compliment my metahpores and analogies.....weird, i never REALLY think about it.....i jsut try to make ppl understand |
| 16:23.02 | Gwildor | brb, bump me if ya need |
| 16:23.15 | roxville | well... there could be money in that! |
| 16:23.27 | roxville | or, you can start a new religion! |
| 16:23.44 | roxville | ok Gwildor |
| 16:24.08 | roxville | Gwildorism :) |
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| 16:26.49 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.51 | roxville | bbl |
| 16:27.39 | Begasus | evening peeps |
| 16:29.37 | Gwildor | ROXVILLE!!!! i wanna go :P |
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| 16:38.33 | detox | well ,,, enlightenment will work through fluxbox but does not show up as window manager on session tab |
| 16:38.36 | detox | oh well |
| 16:38.43 | detox | at lest eh pc is working |
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| 17:05.57 | Skovanden | evening |
| 17:08.17 | ee_lars | i've to go : good evening all! |
| 17:14.07 | roxville | Gwildor, i have the title for your book of analogies and metaphors! |
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| 17:14.22 | roxville | "Mark; mywords" |
| 17:14.39 | roxville | "Mark; my words" |
| 17:14.47 | roxville | Corgan, 0.5? |
| 17:15.07 | Corgan | 0.5 |
| 17:15.19 | roxville | nice, eh? |
| 17:15.44 | Corgan | Very. Though. |
| 17:15.56 | Corgan | I picked 1280 x 1024, and I don't think I got it. |
| 17:16.35 | roxville | what kind of screen do you have? |
| 17:16.41 | Corgan | CRT. |
| 17:17.25 | roxville | ok |
| 17:17.33 | roxville | open a terminal |
| 17:17.54 | roxville | and type vhsync -f |
| 17:18.16 | roxville | you will get a long list of monitors... hopefully, yours is there |
| 17:18.32 | roxville | ok, i gotta take the kids to see "Cars", bbl |
| 17:18.38 | roxville | good luck! |
| 17:18.42 | Corgan | Well, I'm still. On the live for now. Enjoy it and thank you!. |
| 17:19.23 | Gwildor | roxville, :P....lol |
| 17:19.41 | Gwildor | jsut used another one telling some lady about @ subdomain :P |
| 17:19.55 | Gwildor | lol, i was helping here set up her "free phpbb forum" |
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| 17:35.31 | Gwildor | :P |
| 17:38.25 | detox | good new |
| 17:38.32 | detox | news |
| 17:38.58 | detox | I have dsl working on one laptop and debian working on the other |
| 17:39.26 | detox | maybe i will find a way to install elive on my no-cdrom laptop , but for now ,, i'm up and running |
| 17:40.33 | Gwildor | woohoo |
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| 18:24.14 | Gwildor | yo |
| 18:24.29 | detox | yoyo |
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| 19:51.09 | detox | hello |
| 19:52.23 | Gwildor | yo |
| 19:52.54 | detox | hi |
| 19:53.00 | detox | are you one of the guru's? |
| 19:54.06 | Gwildor | depends on what day of the week it is :P |
| 19:54.12 | detox | aahhh |
| 19:54.21 | Gwildor | i juss make the torrents, but i may be able to help, go ahead and ask |
| 19:54.28 | detox | ok cool |
| 19:54.38 | detox | I have a laptop with no cdrom |
| 19:54.45 | detox | would like to install elive |
| 19:55.08 | detox | i can put debian on it because they have a net install with a floppy |
| 19:55.16 | detox | can I do this with elive? |
| 19:55.21 | Gwildor | nah |
| 19:55.38 | Gwildor | i was || <--that claose to having an answer for you... |
| 19:56.01 | detox | ok so not it cannot be done or no you dont know? |
| 19:56.04 | Gwildor | using a debian install to boot the LIVE CD from the HDD, then using that to install to HDD |
| 19:56.15 | Gwildor | there is not a way that i know of...irrc, NO |
| 19:56.48 | detox | and that is the rub i do not have a cdrom |
| 19:57.00 | detox | i have a pen drive but only 128 meg |
| 19:57.47 | detox | well ,,, foooey |
| 19:58.06 | detox | could you make a net install floppy? |
| 19:58.38 | detox | see how the debian one is built and substitite the stuff or elive suppositories? |
| 19:59.29 | Gwildor | no no..what im saying is to do it without burning the CD-rom |
| 19:59.35 | detox | the bios on this laptop stinks ,, you can oly boot from hdd floppy, cd or network |
| 19:59.36 | Gwildor | i was REALLY lcsoe to getting it to work |
| 19:59.48 | Gwildor | you could network isntall it, but dont ask me how |
| 20:00.02 | detox | that is what i Am asking tho |
| 20:00.27 | detox | is there someone on the development team you could ask? |
| 20:01.44 | detox | and ,, do you have any idea why it will not install onto a second hard drive? I have a pc with hda = win2000 and hdb = elive but it will not install successfully??? |
| 20:01.56 | Gwildor | no idea |
| 20:02.00 | detox | ok |
| 20:02.08 | detox | honesty is a good thing |
| 20:02.26 | detox | even tho sometimes we do not like the answer ,, but it is still the best answer |
| 20:02.34 | Gwildor | :D |
| 20:02.40 | Gwildor | dont wanna BS ya... |
| 20:02.54 | detox | good cause I dont have a bs |
| 20:03.06 | detox | never finished |
| 20:03.38 | Gwildor | lol |
| 20:04.12 | detox | I am not a programmer |
| 20:04.39 | detox | I can look at something that is broke and figure out whay msot times ,, but i cannot see how to write it to begin wioth |
| 20:04.42 | detox | with |
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| 20:05.01 | detox | as far as bat files ,, web pages ,, etc |
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| 20:22.57 | detox | hello pale_horse |
| 20:23.27 | pale_horse | yes detox |
| 20:23.48 | detox | i have retired the notion for now of the laptop |
| 20:24.00 | detox | it is working so i'm not gonna mess with it and break it |
| 20:24.19 | detox | would have liked to put elive on it but oh well |
| 20:24.22 | pale_horse | what you have on it ? |
| 20:24.26 | detox | debian |
| 20:24.36 | pale_horse | got flux ? |
| 20:24.42 | detox | yup |
| 20:24.52 | detox | and it works |
| 20:25.23 | pale_horse | you got flux you got all you need dude - I live in flux |
| 20:25.38 | detox | so until I am told I can have to machine to keep , it will do |
| 20:25.49 | detox | then i will repoace the cdrom |
| 20:25.58 | detox | and add ram |
| 20:26.02 | pale_horse | uh huh |
| 20:26.12 | pale_horse | 256 is great in a lappy |
| 20:26.27 | pale_horse | my Turion has a bit more but I run it hard |
| 20:26.34 | detox | do you know "as is" this piece of junk is worth $500 on line? |
| 20:26.55 | pale_horse | so is my old 966 /256 / 20G dell |
| 20:27.11 | detox | funny "old",,, |
| 20:27.23 | detox | this is fast for me |
| 20:28.00 | detox | my good machine jsut died,, the MB cannot remember where the HD's are |
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| 20:28.20 | detox | flashed the bios but is in last stage alzhiemers i think |
| 20:28.24 | Gwildor | bios batt prob |
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| 20:29.00 | detox | had not replaced the batt ,,, but it keeps floppy and cd |
| 20:29.17 | detox | i could certainly try this |
| 20:29.38 | detox | you are talking about the silver pan battery on hte MB right? |
| 20:29.49 | detox | looks like a fat nickel |
| 20:30.38 | detox | and holds time |
| 20:31.17 | detox | hey pale ,,, I really do appreciate the help you have provided,,,,,,, jsut in case I have not articulated this before |
| 20:32.02 | pale_horse | not a problem man |
| 20:32.08 | pale_horse | you are quite welcome |
| 20:32.57 | detox | posted a nbote in the forum about the install failing when it is to a second hd |
| 20:33.08 | detox | maybe someone will come up with an answer |
| 20:34.08 | detox | I played with DSL a bit and tweaked its look pretty nice now |
| 20:34.20 | detox | still bare bones but functional and works |
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| 20:40.07 | Elive_user93 | Anyone in at the moment? |
| 20:43.00 | adamant1988 | hello all |
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| 20:43.57 | adamant1988 | hello Elive_user93 |
| 20:44.40 | adamant1988 | hello Corgan |
| 20:45.03 | Corgan | Hello, Adamant. |
| 20:45.15 | Corgan | Welcome, Rox. |
| 20:45.19 | adamant1988 | did you need something earlier corgan? I was giving my friend a tour of linux... |
| 20:45.38 | roxville | Corgan, that command i gave you earlier? works GREAT even when running the live cd! |
| 20:46.13 | roxville | Gwildor ... Cars... wow |
| 20:46.16 | Corgan | It's okay. Well I tried installing Elive, but having had the previous luxury of auto partition and format, I'm a bit lost. I tried, but I got a GRUB boot loading error, and I'd like to try a second time. |
| 20:46.37 | Gwildor | roxville, i READ it took 17hours to render EACH AND EVERY FRAME...17 hours PER |
| 20:46.39 | Corgan | But is there a partition setup you'd recommend? |
| 20:46.51 | adamant1988 | ok, you want to install Grub to the MBR |
| 20:46.59 | roxville | Corgan, do you have a sata drive, or are you trying to install on a second hard drive? |
| 20:47.49 | Corgan | Nay, on both counts, Rox. |
| 20:48.22 | roxville | ok, good |
| 20:48.43 | roxville | man i wish i had written this down! lol |
| 20:48.52 | Corgan | I probably just screwed up with the paritioning, and I thought I did adamant, but I guess not. |
| 20:48.53 | roxville | Corgan, how big is the drive? |
| 20:48.57 | Corgan | 20. |
| 20:49.02 | roxville | i mean, how much space for elive? |
| 20:49.07 | roxville | same? |
| 20:49.15 | Corgan | Yup. |
| 20:49.19 | roxville | oki |
| 20:49.25 | Corgan | Nice fresh drive. So I can wipe anything and everything in GParted. |
| 20:49.29 | roxville | how much ram? |
| 20:49.37 | Corgan | Oh...that's a good.. |
| 20:49.41 | Corgan | That's a good question. |
| 20:50.24 | Corgan | Haha. Um. Been so long since I put it in. Can't remember if it's Above 256. |
| 20:50.32 | roxville | Gwildor, i am NOT surprised about the render time... it was amazing! |
| 20:50.42 | Corgan | Just can't remember the number. Something odd, due to an odd combo of ram. |
| 20:50.43 | roxville | ok, that's cool |
| 20:50.52 | Gwildor | roxville, good movie too?....for adults |
| 20:50.53 | roxville | 384 |
| 20:51.07 | Corgan | Probably. |
| 20:51.13 | Corgan | If not, 256. |
| 20:51.15 | roxville | Gwildor, heck yeah! it's awesome! |
| 20:51.19 | Gwildor | :) |
| 20:51.26 | Gwildor | maybe i go to drive-in and see it this weekend |
| 20:51.27 | Corgan | Ubuntu usually put in a SWAP of about 850 or so. |
| 20:51.29 | roxville | ok. gparted is open? |
| 20:51.34 | Corgan | Yessir. |
| 20:52.00 | roxville | then you prolly DO have 384MB ram |
| 20:52.18 | roxville | coz my ubuntu with 256 was 764MB swap |
| 20:52.24 | roxville | anyway... |
| 20:52.34 | roxville | make swap 850MB |
| 20:53.56 | Corgan | Let me destroy all partitions And I'll bump it up to 894, which for some reason...I picked. Some sort of math. That won't hurt anything right? |
| 20:53.59 | roxville | say "done" when done... don't be afraid to ask... ok? |
| 20:54.31 | roxville | i don't think it will... |
| 20:55.09 | roxville | Gwildor, there's lots of referring to older stuff that kids don't get... so it's an awesome movie for anyone |
| 20:55.13 | Corgan | Primary Paritition will be the 19gigs, filesystem? |
| 20:55.26 | Gwildor | roxville, :D |
| 20:55.33 | roxville | Corgan, make your swap and then say "done" :) |
| 20:55.35 | roxville | please? |
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| 20:56.02 | roxville | this is kinda different from ubuntu |
| 20:56.29 | Gwildor | kinda... |
| 20:56.42 | Gwildor | cars is kinda live action too right... |
| 20:57.14 | roxville | yeah... it's awesome... and the graphics... whoooooaaaaa..... |
| 20:57.35 | Corgan | Aye, just need a little help with creating the swap. Haha. Don't mean to be a bother, guys. As I said, I've only dealt with Ubuntu's auto. So using a blank drive I just make a 894 swap partition. |
| 20:58.40 | Gwildor | corgan, i suppsoe, its its TAHT much trouble, you can have ubuntu do that partitoning, and come back and use whats there |
| 20:58.43 | roxville | Corgan, it's ok |
| 20:58.50 | roxville | is yopur swap done? |
| 20:59.24 | roxville | Corgan, ? |
| 20:59.24 | Corgan | One sec. Still a linuxy n00b. Primary or Extended? |
| 20:59.31 | roxville | it'll be fast, i promise |
| 20:59.41 | roxville | and it won't hurt a bit :D |
| 20:59.48 | Gwildor | primary... |
| 20:59.56 | Corgan | and linux-swap? |
| 20:59.57 | roxville | swap is primary... but swap is swap |
| 21:00.03 | roxville | yes |
| 21:00.19 | Corgan | Haven't made the changes but created. |
| 21:00.24 | roxville | ok |
| 21:00.57 | roxville | now make a 128MB primary, fs ext3 |
| 21:01.15 | Gwildor | for what? |
| 21:01.17 | Gwildor | roxville, ? |
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| 21:02.25 | roxville | Gwildor, for /boot |
| 21:02.41 | Gwildor | lol, okies |
| 21:02.42 | Gwildor | :D |
| 21:03.06 | roxville | don't bug me about that now... i don't wanna explain 4 times... :) |
| 21:03.14 | Corgan | Does it matter where in the heirarchy it is? :) |
| 21:03.32 | Gwildor | roxville, NP, jsut wasnt srue what a partion that size is for....carry on |
| 21:03.36 | Gwildor | Corgan, NO |
| 21:03.37 | roxville | Corgan, it should pop in nicely beside the swap |
| 21:03.43 | Gwildor | never does...less its windows |
| 21:03.43 | Corgan | Okay one moment. |
| 21:05.19 | Corgan | Alright. |
| 21:05.21 | Corgan | Done. |
| 21:05.28 | roxville | then make a 6GB primary fs xfs |
| 21:06.20 | Corgan | 6? What for, just out of curiosity. Distinguish between OS and /home? |
| 21:06.33 | Corgan | To enable updates without data loss? |
| 21:06.47 | roxville | then make an EXTENDED partition of the rest and then make a logical partition INSIDE it fs xfs |
| 21:07.07 | roxville | Corgan, that's for the root partition... where most of your apss will be installed |
| 21:07.20 | Corgan | Mm. Okay. |
| 21:07.37 | Gwildor | roxville, :P, forget learning to fly, here, land this puppy |
| 21:08.47 | roxville | hehe |
| 21:09.00 | roxville | flight control, we're almost there... |
| 21:09.07 | Corgan | So. Haha. Just to review. |
| 21:09.21 | Corgan | 894 linux-swap swap |
| 21:09.37 | Corgan | 128 ext3 |
| 21:09.43 | Corgan | 6144 xfs |
| 21:09.58 | Corgan | 11927 extended, with xfs inside. |
| 21:10.08 | roxville | Corgan, WRITE down the names of the partitions hda1, hda3, etc... |
| 21:10.12 | roxville | after applying |
| 21:10.22 | roxville | Corgan, that's it! good job |
| 21:10.43 | roxville | nowm, the installer will format again... but it don't hurt to have done already |
| 21:11.10 | Corgan | Let me get my leather book of monitor refresh rates and other interesting computer things. |
| 21:12.04 | roxville | Corgan, vhsync -f will fix that for you |
| 21:12.23 | Corgan | I have it for other OSes, but it didn't work when I tried it, Rox. |
| 21:12.23 | roxville | it has over 4000 computers in it's database |
| 21:12.49 | roxville | vhsync -f didn't work? |
| 21:13.51 | Corgan | No, but we'll get to it in a bit. |
| 21:13.58 | Corgan | Okay. All names noted. |
| 21:15.06 | Corgan | So we're now ready to properly mount in the next steps, ne? |
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| 21:19.48 | roxville | Corgan, go ahead start the installer and go |
| 21:20.47 | Corgan | So for the ROOT partition, we want that 6 Gig part, right? |
| 21:21.00 | roxville | correct |
| 21:21.19 | roxville | and the 128MB for /boot |
| 21:21.40 | Corgan | Which filesystem, it is already XFS, but the installer will format so I choose xfs again. |
| 21:21.48 | roxville | yes |
| 21:22.09 | Corgan | Boot is the 128MB |
| 21:22.18 | roxville | it will say that you need a separate /boot to use xfs for root... but you have it |
| 21:22.29 | roxville | <Corgan> Boot is the 128MB <-- correct |
| 21:23.33 | Corgan | Now I want to add the /home mount point to the system within the Extended partition? |
| 21:23.35 | LinuxNIT-II | wasup floks |
| 21:23.51 | LinuxNIT-II | wazup folks |
| 21:23.56 | Corgan | Hey, LinuxNIT-II. |
| 21:23.59 | roxville | correct |
| 21:24.00 | LinuxNIT-II | :-/ i still cant spell |
| 21:24.04 | LinuxNIT-II | hey Corgan |
| 21:24.17 | Corgan | Do I bother with /var /usr and /usr/local? |
| 21:24.23 | roxville | you don't need to worry abouyt the extended... just know it's there |
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| 21:24.32 | roxville | Corgan, choose cancel |
| 21:24.42 | Corgan | Oh so ignore /home, too? |
| 21:24.47 | roxville | no |
| 21:24.53 | roxville | you add /home |
| 21:25.03 | Elive_user2 | Hi |
| 21:25.05 | roxville | and then big logical partition for that |
| 21:25.11 | LinuxNIT | hi Elive_user2 |
| 21:25.12 | roxville | hi Elive_user2 |
| 21:25.20 | Corgan | And that one is xfs as well, right? |
| 21:25.26 | roxville | correct |
| 21:25.28 | Corgan | Which I noted, here. |
| 21:25.33 | Elive_user2 | I need help fora wireless card |
| 21:25.35 | roxville | good :) |
| 21:25.46 | LinuxNIT | what card? |
| 21:25.50 | Elive_user2 | ipw2200 |
| 21:25.55 | Corgan | Installing, thank you Roxville! |
| 21:25.56 | roxville | Elive_user2, LinuxNIT is your knight in shinging armour |
| 21:25.59 | Corgan | I appreciate it. |
| 21:26.01 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 21:26.09 | Elive_user2 | Wow |
| 21:26.14 | roxville | Corgan, you're welcome, dude :) |
| 21:26.24 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user2, does iwconfig see the card? |
| 21:26.25 | Corgan | It makes sense now, why I only saw partitions hda1 and hda5 before. |
| 21:26.31 | Elive_user2 | no |
| 21:26.40 | LinuxNIT | as root do this: |
| 21:26.41 | Corgan | Now I know where all of the partitions 2 - 4 came from. |
| 21:26.42 | Elive_user2 | i downloaded the ipw2200 modules |
| 21:26.45 | LinuxNIT | lsmod | grep ipw |
| 21:26.50 | LinuxNIT | anything? |
| 21:26.55 | roxville | Corgan, yep |
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| 21:27.06 | Elive_user2 | and put the fw in the directory |
| 21:27.15 | roxville | hello Elive_user3 |
| 21:27.44 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user2, im sorry what? |
| 21:28.02 | LinuxNIT | did that command return anything? |
| 21:28.12 | Elive_user2 | I put the firmware for the ipw2200 in the directory |
| 21:28.26 | Elive_user2 | no lsmod... nothing |
| 21:28.45 | Elive_user2 | and iwconfig say no wireless extensions |
| 21:28.58 | roxville | Elive_user2, please just follow LinuxNIT 's instructions, and you'll be fine :) |
| 21:28.58 | Elive_user2 | Ok |
| 21:28.58 | LinuxNIT | we hope :D |
| 21:29.06 | Elive_user2 | :D |
| 21:29.08 | LinuxNIT | modprobe ipw2200 |
| 21:29.08 | roxville | i hope... :D |
| 21:29.15 | pale_horse | hello LinuxNIT |
| 21:29.21 | LinuxNIT | hello pale_horse |
| 21:29.26 | Elive_user2 | ok |
| 21:30.33 | LinuxNIT | any errors? |
| 21:30.33 | Elive_user2 | iwconfig is ok |
| 21:30.33 | LinuxNIT | iwlist scan |
| 21:30.33 | LinuxNIT | does it find networks? |
| 21:30.33 | Elive_user2 | yeah |
| 21:30.36 | LinuxNIT | does it find networks? |
| 21:30.40 | Elive_user2 | Yes |
| 21:30.43 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 21:30.47 | LinuxNIT | youre good to go |
| 21:30.53 | LinuxNIT | do you know how to configure it? |
| 21:30.58 | Elive_user2 | With elpanel can I configure It_ |
| 21:31.03 | Elive_user2 | _ |
| 21:31.05 | roxville | Corgan, when the installation is done... and you reboot, you will have to configure networking |
| 21:31.07 | LinuxNIT | yes you can |
| 21:31.07 | Elive_user2 | ? |
| 21:31.14 | LinuxNIT | or from the command line. |
| 21:31.16 | roxville | do that from elpanel, behind the keys icons |
| 21:31.27 | Elive_user2 | now I try.. |
| 21:31.38 | LinuxNIT | or with my little program.... which ever method you prefer :D |
| 21:31.52 | Elive_user2 | Which is your little program_ |
| 21:32.04 | LinuxNIT | its not installed |
| 21:32.10 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 21:32.10 | LinuxNIT | youd have to download it |
| 21:32.25 | LinuxNIT | try it in elpanel and make sure the card conncets |
| 21:32.27 | Elive_user2 | wait a moment that I try with elpanel |
| 21:32.36 | LinuxNIT | then if you want to try my program let me know |
| 21:32.37 | Corgan | Will have to configure? Alright. |
| 21:32.39 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 21:33.23 | Corgan | What's the difference between day and night? |
| 21:33.26 | Elive_user2 | ThanX |
| 21:33.35 | LinuxNIT | night is darker and cooler looking imho |
| 21:33.41 | LinuxNIT | its just different themes |
| 21:33.51 | Corgan | Any screenshots available? |
| 21:33.57 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 21:34.00 | LinuxNIT | probably |
| 21:35.00 | Corgan | Ah I see. |
| 21:35.01 | LinuxNIT | http://elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/_previews/demos-1.jpg.html |
| 21:35.13 | LinuxNIT | thats the 'day' in e17 im pretty sure |
| 21:35.21 | Corgan | Aye. |
| 21:35.42 | Elive_user2 | mmm |
| 21:35.53 | Elive_user2 | It doesn-t work |
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| 21:36.29 | Corgan | Rox? |
| 21:36.44 | LinuxNIT | he quit? |
| 21:36.49 | LinuxNIT | w/e |
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| 21:37.26 | Elive_user2 | RE Hi... |
| 21:37.32 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user2, are you the one with ipw220? |
| 21:37.38 | LinuxNIT | *ipw2200 |
| 21:37.39 | Elive_user2 | yes |
| 21:37.50 | Elive_user2 | and it doesn't ork |
| 21:37.52 | Corgan | Roxville, if you return, GRUB in MBR? |
| 21:38.01 | LinuxNIT | whats it do? |
| 21:38.25 | Elive_user2 | It finds my network but It can't activate |
| 21:38.31 | LinuxNIT | ok do this |
| 21:38.34 | Elive_user2 | the key is OK |
| 21:38.36 | LinuxNIT | open a terminal |
| 21:38.39 | Elive_user2 | ok |
| 21:39.09 | LinuxNIT | what is the name of your card? |
| 21:39.10 | LinuxNIT | eth1? |
| 21:39.15 | Elive_user2 | eth2 |
| 21:39.20 | LinuxNIT | 2 |
| 21:39.22 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 21:39.24 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 21:39.39 | Elive_user2 | there's a strange eth1 |
| 21:39.40 | LinuxNIT | iwconfig eth2 essid networkname key wepkey |
| 21:39.45 | Elive_user2 | ok |
| 21:39.49 | LinuxNIT | its probably firewire |
| 21:39.57 | LinuxNIT | firewire can be used to network |
| 21:40.09 | roxville | <Corgan> Roxville, if you return, GRUB in MBR? <-- YES! |
| 21:40.21 | roxville | corry... i was folding laundry... |
| 21:40.28 | Corgan | No no quite alright. |
| 21:40.31 | Corgan | Okay so I selected. |
| 21:40.35 | Corgan | And clicked okay. |
| 21:40.41 | roxville | yep |
| 21:41.02 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user2, of cource you have to replace networkname and wepkey with your appropriate infomation :D |
| 21:41.08 | Corgan | Do you want Elive add automatically you FrameBuffer for the boot of the system? FB autodetected: 791 |
| 21:41.17 | Elive_user2 | ok, obviously.. |
| 21:41.22 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 21:41.25 | LinuxNIT | just making sure |
| 21:41.34 | Elive_user2 | :) |
| 21:41.39 | LinuxNIT | now wait till i say go before you run another of these commands |
| 21:41.45 | LinuxNIT | you will loose connection |
| 21:41.54 | Corgan | (Choose 'Cancel' if you experience a BLACK screen on the boot before start the system) And not at all, Roxville. I appreciate any and all help, and don't demand anything. |
| 21:41.54 | roxville | Corgan, that's a hit and miss... i don't know... i chose no |
| 21:42.04 | LinuxNIT | so you will have to reconnecto to this chatroom. |
| 21:42.06 | LinuxNIT | first |
| 21:42.17 | LinuxNIT | ifconfig eth0 down |
| 21:42.22 | Elive_user2 | how can I change my name_ |
| 21:42.24 | LinuxNIT | ifconfig eth1 down |
| 21:42.33 | Corgan | Click on your name in the left hand corner. |
| 21:42.37 | LinuxNIT | dhclient eth2 |
| 21:42.38 | Corgan | Dialog will pop up for you to change. |
| 21:42.55 | LinuxNIT | then you should be connected |
| 21:42.58 | *** join/#elive Elive_user3 (n=Elive_us@88-149-148-2.f4.ngi.it) |
| 21:43.05 | LinuxNIT | if it fails reconnect by doing : |
| 21:43.09 | LinuxNIT | ifconfig eth1 up |
| 21:43.17 | LinuxNIT | ifconfig eth0 up |
| 21:43.23 | LinuxNIT | one of those two |
| 21:43.30 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user2, does that make sense? |
| 21:43.32 | Elive_user3 | excuse me but I lost the conncection for a moment |
| 21:43.40 | Elive_user3 | yes eth0! |
| 21:43.42 | Corgan | Ready to reboot. |
| 21:43.51 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user3, were you Elive_user2 ? |
| 21:43.51 | roxville | gawd, i hate folding laundry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:44.04 | roxville | LinuxNIT, lol |
| 21:44.07 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 21:44.13 | LinuxNIT | i know |
| 21:44.22 | LinuxNIT | it looks so funny to ask that |
| 21:44.28 | roxville | Elive_user2, please change your nick to something more personal.. do /nick newnick |
| 21:44.32 | Elive_user3 | yes :D |
| 21:44.40 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user3, ok |
| 21:44.43 | LinuxNIT | change your nick |
| 21:44.45 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 21:44.52 | LinuxNIT | ahhh a person now |
| 21:44.53 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 21:44.55 | roxville | lol |
| 21:44.58 | Rolando | :D |
| 21:45.03 | LinuxNIT | Rolando, do this as root |
| 21:45.07 | LinuxNIT | dhclient eth2 |
| 21:45.11 | LinuxNIT | run that one |
| 21:45.31 | Rolando | ok |
| 21:45.34 | LinuxNIT | did it error out? |
| 21:45.42 | Rolando | no I have an IP |
| 21:45.45 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 21:45.50 | LinuxNIT | its working then |
| 21:45.51 | LinuxNIT | however |
| 21:45.57 | LinuxNIT | its sitll using eth0 |
| 21:46.07 | LinuxNIT | so if you unplug it youll loose connection |
| 21:46.15 | LinuxNIT | ifconfig eth0 down |
| 21:46.22 | Rolando | no I try to disable eth0 and change the gateway |
| 21:46.23 | LinuxNIT | will tell it to stop using eth0 |
| 21:46.33 | LinuxNIT | dont have to change the gateway |
| 21:46.37 | LinuxNIT | jsut: |
| 21:46.39 | LinuxNIT | ifconfig eth0 down |
| 21:46.43 | Rolando | ok |
| 21:46.52 | LinuxNIT | then reconnect to this chat room |
| 21:47.25 | roxville | Gwildor, i know this is kinda big, but... not bad, eh? http://71.204.226.14/public_html/misc/elive-bg-shiny1.png |
| 21:47.47 | roxville | now i made that logo BEFORE i saw cars! lol |
| 21:48.22 | LinuxNIT | roxville, thats pretty nice |
| 21:48.43 | roxville | thanx LinuxNIT :) |
| 21:48.55 | roxville | lol |
| 21:48.59 | LinuxNIT | i like the wood grain |
| 21:49.10 | roxville | wood? where? |
| 21:49.29 | LinuxNIT | well the brown part looks like its kind of a wood grain |
| 21:49.32 | LinuxNIT | imho |
| 21:49.37 | *** join/#elive pales_rider (n=Pat@65.165.176.62) |
| 21:49.43 | LinuxNIT | howdy pales_rider |
| 21:49.58 | pales_rider | hi LinuxNIT |
| 21:50.01 | roxville | in the logo? is a reflection, of a car... the brown is an indicator glass |
| 21:50.12 | *** join/#elive Elive_user3 (n=Elive_us@c-68-44-126-10.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 21:50.12 | roxville | hi pales_rider :) |
| 21:50.25 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 21:50.27 | Corgan | Well. |
| 21:50.29 | Corgan | I'm here. |
| 21:50.33 | roxville | Corgan, YAY! |
| 21:50.42 | pales_rider | hi chris |
| 21:50.47 | roxville | awesome! welcome to elive :) |
| 21:51.03 | roxville | LinuxNIT, it's a close up |
| 21:51.15 | LinuxNIT | i must have lost my eyesight |
| 21:51.16 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 21:51.43 | roxville | well... i don't SEE it either... but i KNOW that that's what it is... |
| 21:51.58 | LinuxNIT | lmao |
| 21:52.18 | LinuxNIT | well i still think it looks like wood grain |
| 21:52.20 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 21:52.31 | LinuxNIT | Rolando, ? |
| 21:52.33 | roxville | ok... |
| 21:52.45 | LinuxNIT | its been too long |
| 21:52.48 | Corgan | Thank you thank you. |
| 21:53.00 | Corgan | Now what was this command before? vhsync -f? |
| 21:53.33 | roxville | Corgan, yes |
| 21:53.41 | Corgan | command not found. |
| 21:53.55 | LinuxNIT | roxville, im rebooting |
| 21:54.03 | LinuxNIT | if he comes back tell him to wait please |
| 21:54.12 | LinuxNIT | ill brb |
| 21:54.14 | roxville | Corgan, wow... you're rigt! dayum... lol |
| 21:54.25 | roxville | ok LinuxNIT |
| 21:54.48 | roxville | Corgan, there's an elpanel front for it too.. lemme check |
| 21:55.12 | roxville | yeah, behind the keys... upper left |
| 21:55.23 | Corgan | Just did it. |
| 21:55.27 | roxville | oh, you need to be root |
| 21:55.47 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@c-68-44-126-10.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 21:55.55 | Elive_user | No go. |
| 21:56.08 | roxville | not even as root? |
| 21:56.39 | Corgan | Even. Any place I can manually enter my VertRefresh and HorizSync rates? |
| 21:56.59 | roxville | Corgan, i just opened it! it's there! |
| 21:57.14 | Corgan | Opened what? |
| 21:57.14 | roxville | or... your monitor is not in tye list? |
| 21:57.26 | *** join/#elive LinuxNIT (n=LinuxNIT@ppp-70-245-27-185.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) |
| 21:57.31 | roxville | i opened vhsync... you have to be root |
| 21:57.36 | Corgan | Ooh |
| 21:57.42 | LinuxNIT | k im back |
| 21:57.49 | Corgan | su or sudo? |
| 21:57.51 | roxville | wb |
| 21:57.54 | LinuxNIT | su |
| 21:57.56 | roxville | Corgan, su |
| 21:57.58 | Corgan | Thank ya |
| 21:58.04 | LinuxNIT | Rolando, ? |
| 21:58.12 | LinuxNIT | roxville, did he come back? |
| 21:59.04 | roxville | LinuxNIT, no... |
| 21:59.10 | LinuxNIT | crap :-/ |
| 22:01.03 | Corgan | Gotta search for it. |
| 22:01.10 | Corgan | Big list. |
| 22:01.55 | roxville | yeah... |
| 22:02.04 | *** part/#elive pales_rider (n=Pat@65.165.176.62) |
| 22:02.05 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@88.149.149.71) |
| 22:02.27 | Corgan | Not in there, Rox. |
| 22:02.32 | LinuxNIT | Rolando, ? |
| 22:02.35 | Corgan | The other Elive CD supported it, but not, here. |
| 22:02.37 | Elive_user | Si |
| 22:02.40 | Elive_user | Yes |
| 22:02.40 | LinuxNIT | yay |
| 22:02.43 | LinuxNIT | did it work? |
| 22:02.46 | Elive_user | Yes |
| 22:02.48 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 22:02.52 | Elive_user | ThanX |
| 22:02.59 | LinuxNIT | anytime |
| 22:03.06 | LinuxNIT | now you can use my app if you want. ;) |
| 22:03.10 | Elive_user | now is eth0 :D |
| 22:03.17 | LinuxNIT | :o |
| 22:03.26 | LinuxNIT | iwconfig says its eth0? |
| 22:03.31 | Elive_user | the link? |
| 22:03.45 | LinuxNIT | elivedev.org/linuxnit/files |
| 22:03.48 | Elive_user | How can I change my nick in the config? |
| 22:03.59 | LinuxNIT | xchat menu server list |
| 22:04.01 | LinuxNIT | xchat menu> server list |
| 22:05.06 | Elive_user | OK |
| 22:05.20 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.27 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 22:05.43 | LinuxNIT | ahhh |
| 22:05.45 | LinuxNIT | thats better |
| 22:05.47 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 22:05.55 | roxville | Corgan, your monitor not there? |
| 22:06.01 | roxville | damn... |
| 22:06.08 | Corgan | Nope. Is there a document I can manually edit? It'd be easier. |
| 22:07.40 | Rolando | Ok I'm downloading! |
| 22:07.59 | LinuxNIT | ok should be done downloading now |
| 22:08.01 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 22:08.28 | Rolando | I don't have a broadband connection... mmm I'm in Italy... and in a little little little town! |
| 22:08.37 | LinuxNIT | ohh |
| 22:09.03 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@c-68-44-126-10.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 22:09.16 | Corgan | I just picked one. Heh. |
| 22:09.28 | roxville | lol |
| 22:09.32 | Rolando | Ok.. are sources and Now ??? |
| 22:09.59 | roxville | ok guys, i gotta get in the shower... got a gig tonight... |
| 22:10.05 | roxville | gotta make lots of tips... |
| 22:10.20 | LinuxNIT | Rolando, youll have to install python2.4-tk |
| 22:10.23 | roxville | Corgan, i REALLY hope you will enjoy your elive |
| 22:10.30 | LinuxNIT | that might take a while on your connection :-/ |
| 22:10.32 | Corgan | Best wishes, Rox, and thanks. I'm sure I will. |
| 22:10.37 | Rolando | with synaptic I hope... |
| 22:10.45 | LinuxNIT | yes with synaptic |
| 22:10.50 | Rolando | Ok... |
| 22:10.52 | roxville | thanx, and... yw :) |
| 22:11.31 | LinuxNIT | after that unpack the tar file you downloaded with tar xvvzf wifi-wiz-V2.2.tar.gz |
| 22:11.33 | *** join/#elive adamant1988 (n=adam@h-141-153-101-134.ckb.meer.net) |
| 22:11.39 | LinuxNIT | then su |
| 22:11.44 | LinuxNIT | to become root |
| 22:11.47 | LinuxNIT | then: |
| 22:11.50 | LinuxNIT | ./install.sh |
| 22:11.59 | LinuxNIT | wifi-wiz to start it |
| 22:12.02 | LinuxNIT | gl hf |
| 22:12.03 | adamant1988 | grrrr |
| 22:12.03 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 22:12.08 | LinuxNIT | howdy adamant1988 |
| 22:12.18 | adamant1988 | I am about 2 seconds away from deleting hal.dll on my mother computer |
| 22:12.37 | Rolando | I'm downloading... |
| 22:12.43 | LinuxNIT | Rolando, cool |
| 22:12.54 | Rolando | ohhh wow :( |
| 22:12.59 | LinuxNIT | Rolando, hollar if you need help |
| 22:13.06 | adamant1988 | Grrr, she makes me angry. Anyway... lol. |
| 22:13.10 | LinuxNIT | yeah i know its big.... for a slow connection |
| 22:13.10 | Rolando | hollar? |
| 22:13.17 | LinuxNIT | Rolando, lol |
| 22:13.22 | Rolando | ah ok |
| 22:13.27 | LinuxNIT | hollar is like yell. |
| 22:13.29 | *** join/#elive _mauricio_ (n=ircap8@r200-125-35-43-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 22:13.38 | Rolando | My english is scholastic |
| 22:13.46 | LinuxNIT | but its a shall we say 'country boyish' term |
| 22:13.53 | Rolando | ok... |
| 22:13.56 | adamant1988 | I can't stay very long, mothers being 'super taco nazi' on me. |
| 22:14.13 | Rolando | :) |
| 22:14.19 | LinuxNIT | adamant1988, just walk toward her pc with a linux install disc |
| 22:14.26 | LinuxNIT | that should scare her off |
| 22:14.27 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 22:14.34 | adamant1988 | Oh I'm not interested in making her computer better |
| 22:14.46 | adamant1988 | I want her $4000 pride and joy to crash hard. |
| 22:14.48 | LinuxNIT | oh isee |
| 22:14.50 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@S010600e04ca667a4.lb.shawcable.net) |
| 22:14.52 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 22:14.59 | LinuxNIT | haha |
| 22:15.12 | Rolando | 14.9Kb/s Wow... |
| 22:15.17 | adamant1988 | I'm tempted to edit hal.dll |
| 22:15.18 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 22:15.33 | adamant1988 | grrrrr |
| 22:15.34 | adamant1988 | gtg |
| 22:16.09 | LinuxNIT | cya |
| 22:16.19 | LinuxNIT | Rolando, whats the eta? |
| 22:16.29 | LinuxNIT | err... how long? |
| 22:17.02 | Rolando | 1 minute about |
| 22:17.14 | LinuxNIT | ah not tooooo aweful bad |
| 22:17.41 | Rolando | Here there ares wort connections... |
| 22:17.50 | Rolando | worst... oooops |
| 22:18.15 | Rolando | ok the reptile is installed :D |
| 22:18.35 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 22:18.35 | Rolando | lead me to the light :D |
| 22:18.59 | LinuxNIT | tar xvvzf foo.tar.gz |
| 22:19.37 | Rolando | foo ??? |
| 22:19.58 | Rolando | I extracted the file downloaded |
| 22:20.25 | Rolando | LinuxNIT ? |
| 22:21.12 | *** join/#elive LinuxNIT (n=LinuxNIT@70.245.27.185) |
| 22:21.22 | LinuxNIT | sorry |
| 22:21.32 | LinuxNIT | i killed a panel i had and it took xchat down with it |
| 22:21.59 | LinuxNIT | Rolando, foo is used in linux kinda like a variable |
| 22:22.07 | Rolando | It's all Ok! |
| 22:22.14 | LinuxNIT | you change foo to be what ever fits your specific need |
| 22:22.21 | LinuxNIT | so anyway |
| 22:22.27 | Rolando | I installed it |
| 22:22.31 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 22:22.33 | LinuxNIT | it work? |
| 22:22.36 | *** join/#elive Elive_user8 (n=Elive_us@84-122-209-205.onocable.ono.com) |
| 22:22.36 | Rolando | Yes |
| 22:22.40 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 22:22.46 | Rolando | yes |
| 22:22.49 | LinuxNIT | #wifi-wiz if you ever need help |
| 22:22.56 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 22:23.19 | Rolando | OK congratulations or whatever is ok... |
| 22:23.25 | Rolando | OK congratulations or whatever is ok....d |
| 22:23.28 | Rolando | :D |
| 22:23.36 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 22:24.12 | LinuxNIT | and it will save you networks configuration if you click on manage networks and then add it to the list |
| 22:24.22 | Rolando | very good... |
| 22:24.36 | Rolando | tomorrow a new stage of wardriving !!! |
| 22:24.45 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 22:25.20 | Rolando | Even if it can't appear to be my job is... |
| 22:25.28 | Rolando | system administrator... |
| 22:25.37 | Rolando | mainly for windows... |
| 22:25.45 | LinuxNIT | fun |
| 22:25.57 | LinuxNIT | hmmm for windows... bet that keeps you busy |
| 22:25.59 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 22:26.14 | Rolando | but I have even some linux server, but is some time that I don't put my hand on them |
| 22:26.37 | Rolando | :D ... and I'm very busy with windows! |
| 22:27.01 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 22:27.02 | Rolando | I do technical service for little companies... |
| 22:27.08 | LinuxNIT | Rolando, also |
| 22:27.34 | LinuxNIT | do you use e17 or e16? |
| 22:27.40 | Rolando | I've a Slack server and 2 Suse 9.0 server |
| 22:27.56 | Rolando | e17 obviously... I wanna try to fly... |
| 22:28.00 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 22:28.03 | Rolando | :d |
| 22:28.08 | LinuxNIT | check your utils sectoin of the applications menu |
| 22:28.11 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 22:28.41 | Rolando | looking for? |
| 22:28.56 | LinuxNIT | it should have added a link to wifi-wiz in there |
| 22:29.07 | Rolando | no there isn't |
| 22:29.17 | LinuxNIT | uh oh |
| 22:30.37 | LinuxNIT | ls ~/.e/e/applicatins/all | grep wifi |
| 22:30.44 | LinuxNIT | anything? |
| 22:30.47 | Rolando | in entangle there is, but is not visible |
| 22:30.56 | Rolando | in the menu! |
| 22:31.12 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 22:31.23 | LinuxNIT | well you can add it whereever you want to then |
| 22:31.45 | Rolando | there is in the editor, but not in the menu displayed |
| 22:32.11 | Rolando | pheraps the next time starts... like windows :)))) |
| 22:32.12 | roxville | i think he needs to reload e |
| 22:32.31 | roxville | ok, i'm off... bbl |
| 22:32.35 | LinuxNIT | so in entagle under utils it shows wif-wiz but not when you go to the menu and look |
| 22:32.39 | LinuxNIT | cya roxville |
| 22:32.53 | Rolando | YES exactly |
| 22:32.59 | LinuxNIT | restart e17 |
| 22:33.05 | Rolando | ok.. |
| 22:33.08 | LinuxNIT | dont log out |
| 22:33.11 | LinuxNIT | just restart |
| 22:33.20 | LinuxNIT | that should keep your programs open |
| 22:33.29 | *** join/#elive rookmoot (n=rookmoot@ANantes-256-1-78-127.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:33.50 | Rolando | however there isn't |
| 22:34.18 | LinuxNIT | what? |
| 22:34.41 | Rolando | there isn't |
| 22:34.52 | LinuxNIT | its still not there |
| 22:34.53 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 22:35.03 | Rolando | exactly |
| 22:35.18 | LinuxNIT | add it to ibar |
| 22:35.24 | LinuxNIT | see if it shows up there |
| 22:35.40 | Rolando | ok.. just a moment |
| 22:38.42 | *** join/#elive Elive_user60 (n=Elive_us@c-67-164-104-113.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 22:38.46 | Rolando | no nothing.. |
| 22:39.20 | Rolando | but i tried to add another icon, and it doesn't shows up... |
| 22:39.33 | LinuxNIT | oh so its not my eap |
| 22:39.37 | LinuxNIT | its damn e17 |
| 22:39.41 | Rolando | yes... |
| 22:39.44 | Rolando | ok.. |
| 22:39.53 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 22:39.58 | LinuxNIT | well hers a tip |
| 22:40.21 | Rolando | no I must go in bed and call my girlfriend otherwise tomorrow I'll be single :D |
| 22:40.24 | *** join/#elive pizux (n=sebux@vel78-2-82-243-104-169.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:40.28 | LinuxNIT | if you hit alt + escape you can run a prgram by typing in its name |
| 22:40.37 | pizux | yop |
| 22:40.37 | Rolando | ok thanx! |
| 22:40.39 | Rolando | cya |
| 22:40.44 | LinuxNIT | cay |
| 22:40.46 | LinuxNIT | Rolando, |
| 22:40.50 | LinuxNIT | welcome to elive.... and wifi-wiz |
| 22:40.52 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 22:40.56 | LinuxNIT | howdy pizux |
| 22:41.08 | pizux | is there a way to have desktop icons ? |
| 22:41.23 | LinuxNIT | well..... |
| 22:41.40 | LinuxNIT | enlightenment does not use desktop icons |
| 22:41.46 | LinuxNIT | however.... |
| 22:42.06 | pizux | and rox pinboerd? |
| 22:42.14 | LinuxNIT | there is an application that will allow you to place icons on any desktop |
| 22:42.22 | LinuxNIT | i forget its name tho :-/ |
| 22:42.42 | pizux | ok son thee is a way |
| 22:43.01 | LinuxNIT | yes technically there is a way |
| 22:43.03 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 22:43.13 | LinuxNIT | it just takes a bit of work |
| 22:43.13 | pizux | is there problems after a dist-upgrade on elive? |
| 22:43.24 | LinuxNIT | DONT DIST-UPGRADE |
| 22:43.27 | *** join/#elive rookmoot (n=rookmoot@ANantes-256-1-78-127.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:43.33 | LinuxNIT | just upgrade |
| 22:43.37 | LinuxNIT | no dist-upgrade |
| 22:43.53 | pizux | each time a new version out you have to reinstall the full systeme? |
| 22:45.57 | LinuxNIT | http://wiki.elivecd.org/community/en/wiki/dist_upgrade |
| 22:48.20 | *** join/#elive dererk (n=dash@unaffiliated/dererk) |
| 22:48.40 | *** join/#elive Papageno3_ (n=Papageno@16.75.99-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 22:48.44 | LinuxNIT | pizux, http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/FAQ |
| 22:48.50 | *** part/#elive Papageno3_ (n=Papageno@16.75.99-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 22:48.58 | LinuxNIT | see if those answer your questions about upgradeing and new versions |
| 22:49.06 | pizux | ok thx |
| 22:49.24 | pizux | am going to do a dualboot elive/ubuntu |
| 22:49.28 | LinuxNIT | sorry i dont dev elive. so those would probably answer better than me |
| 22:49.32 | pizux | elive is very nice |
| 22:49.35 | LinuxNIT | yes it is |
| 22:49.38 | LinuxNIT | i love it |
| 22:50.11 | pizux | am cure it's going to be a real easy2use distrib |
| 22:50.15 | LinuxNIT | but if you have questions still... feel free to ask. (i might be able to clear them up) |
| 22:50.25 | pizux | ok |
| 22:50.46 | pizux | euh just is it better to install apt-list bugs? |
| 22:52.06 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 22:52.07 | *** part/#elive ahmrahtcheer (n=gary@0-1pool96-125.nas20.houston4.tx.us.da.qwest.net) |
| 22:52.12 | LinuxNIT | i have not done that in elive |
| 22:52.26 | pizux | really? |
| 22:52.34 | LinuxNIT | it might show stuff since it is etch |
| 22:52.44 | LinuxNIT | yeah i never thought of it |
| 22:52.46 | LinuxNIT | i used it in sid once |
| 22:53.05 | pizux | ok so no risk to have instable packages? |
| 22:53.30 | LinuxNIT | well your in etch so there is sooome risk |
| 22:54.03 | LinuxNIT | but i have not had problems yet |
| 22:55.51 | LinuxNIT | wb pale_horse |
| 22:56.11 | pale_horse | ty LinuxNIT - off to have some Q ribs now |
| 22:56.42 | LinuxNIT | * pale_horse is away: having good redneck chow <<<nice |
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| 22:59.27 | LinuxNIT | wb Rolando |
| 22:59.52 | Rolando | Hi.. |
| 23:00.12 | Rolando | I returned i wondered I was using e16... |
| 23:00.26 | Rolando | Your app is Ok |
| 23:00.35 | Rolando | LinuxNIT... |
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| 23:00.51 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 23:00.56 | LinuxNIT | you were in e16? |
| 23:00.58 | Rolando | in the ibar now there's the icon... |
| 23:01.03 | LinuxNIT | heh |
| 23:01.04 | pizux | yop i found deskotp icons manager call ides |
| 23:01.05 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 23:01.09 | pizux | idesk |
| 23:01.11 | LinuxNIT | pizux, cool |
| 23:01.19 | pizux | with a gui call idesk-extra |
| 23:01.19 | LinuxNIT | i think there is another one as well |
| 23:01.50 | Rolando | I believed to use e17 because during installation I selected, but trying to change I wondered It wasn't so... |
| 23:02.06 | LinuxNIT | when you install the default is e16 |
| 23:02.24 | pizux | night all |
| 23:02.28 | LinuxNIT | night |
| 23:02.47 | LinuxNIT | well i gtg |
| 23:02.57 | LinuxNIT | family is goin out for dinner |
| 23:03.05 | Rolando | ah... I thought the live was different boh... |
| 23:03.17 | Rolando | :D |
| 23:03.35 | LinuxNIT | both e16 and e17 are on the live version and the installed version |
| 23:03.44 | LinuxNIT | e16 is default after the install |
| 23:03.59 | LinuxNIT | on live mode it asks you wich one to use |
| 23:04.19 | Rolando | I selected always e17, but when It presented me the e16 I tought it was e17 with a different theme.. |
| 23:04.35 | Rolando | do You know a sample pptp client? |
| 23:04.49 | Rolando | I need to connect with my office... |
| 23:04.54 | Rolando | :) |
| 23:05.41 | LinuxNIT | pptp no i dont |
| 23:05.45 | LinuxNIT | sorry |
| 23:06.00 | Rolando | now i'm looking in synaptic.. |
| 23:06.10 | LinuxNIT | pptp-linux |
| 23:06.14 | LinuxNIT | is the only client i saw |
| 23:06.27 | Rolando | but is difficult to configure? |
| 23:06.37 | LinuxNIT | dunno |
| 23:06.42 | LinuxNIT | i never used ppptop |
| 23:06.46 | LinuxNIT | i use ssh |
| 23:06.48 | LinuxNIT | anyway i gtg |
| 23:06.53 | Rolando | gtg? |
| 23:06.53 | LinuxNIT | family is walking out the door |
| 23:06.58 | LinuxNIT | gtg = got to go |
| 23:07.13 | Rolando | ok I thanx You for all! |
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| 23:15.36 | Elive_user95 | hey all |
| 23:15.55 | Elive_user95 | anyone having trouble installing e17 themes via synaptic? |
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| 23:36.53 | pb280c | anyone having trouble installing e17 themes via synaptic? |
| 23:37.21 | pb280c | well more to the point, they seem to install just fine, however when I go to change a theme, it's not avail |
| 23:38.40 | adamant1988 | they installed fine for me when I used it |
| 23:38.48 | adamant1988 | are you on the new beta? |
| 23:39.04 | pb280c | hmm.. I've had this issue ever since my hd install.. no |
| 23:39.18 | adamant1988 | I mean are you on .5 |
| 23:39.40 | pb280c | ah that could be it.. I did the dist-upgrade recently |
| 23:40.55 | pb280c | another question. Can I add the repos from dapper/breezy by editing my sources.list? |
| 23:41.06 | adamant1988 | no clue |
| 23:41.29 | pb280c | thinking that since this is debian based.. Might have to see if it will work |
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| 23:43.17 | Rolando | Hi... |
| 23:43.34 | adamant1988 | hi |
| 23:43.41 | pb280c | ello |
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| 23:43.55 | Rolando | Someone can help me? |
| 23:44.13 | pb280c | easier to ask a question and see what you get Roland |
| 23:44.14 | Rolando | I need to add MPPE support to kernel |
| 23:44.16 | adamant1988 | maybe, I'll try.. |
| 23:44.17 | pb280c | easier to ask a question and see what you get Rolando |
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| 23:47.02 | pb280c | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&hs=wDq&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Kernel+2.16.2+MPPE+support&spell=1 |
| 23:47.10 | pb280c | good place to start Rolando |
| 23:47.40 | Rolando | I'll go to see.. |
| 23:48.46 | pb280c | seems to be some good info there |
| 23:56.47 | Rolando | yes but nothing for 2.6.12 |
| 23:57.00 | Rolando | I found a patch in synaptic |
| 23:57.28 | pb280c | I searched for 2.6.12 and that's what was kicked out.. let me try something |
| 23:58.34 | pb280c | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2002/06/subject2.html <- looks like 2.6.10 is as close as ya get for now |
