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| 01:18.19 | adamant1988 | ello all you peoples |
| 01:18.53 | elmo40 | allo |
| 01:19.11 | elmo40 | say, after i have installed eLive, can i remove qemu? what is it used for? |
| 01:19.11 | adamant1988 | how's everyone |
| 01:19.22 | adamant1988 | qemu is a VM software |
| 01:19.39 | elmo40 | m'eh, never use VM ware |
| 01:19.52 | LinuxNIT-II | quemu is a cpu emulator |
| 01:20.08 | elmo40 | i see |
| 01:20.08 | LinuxNIT-II | lets you emulat different architectures |
| 01:20.11 | LinuxNIT-II | like ppc |
| 01:20.14 | elmo40 | so i dont need it then ;) |
| 01:20.21 | LinuxNIT-II | 64bit cpus |
| 01:20.22 | adamant1988 | precisely |
| 01:20.24 | LinuxNIT-II | etc |
| 01:20.33 | adamant1988 | and win4lin is probably better if you're out to run windows programs |
| 01:20.39 | LinuxNIT-II | or you can test boot an iso before burning it |
| 01:22.37 | elmo40 | i thought that i have seen qemu before... DSL uses it, i think |
| 01:23.22 | LinuxNIT-II | could be |
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| 02:00.16 | f15h | hey mates |
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| 02:01.30 | adamant1988 | revdjenk, :) |
| 02:01.53 | revdjenk | adamant1988 :) |
| 02:02.13 | adamant1988 | So, you're going to take over the Davis Memorial Pres. church right? |
| 02:02.52 | revdjenk | well, we are still checking each other out...my wife and I are going to share the position, but we have a couple more hurdles to jump |
| 02:03.06 | adamant1988 | jump them! hurry up with it too |
| 02:03.30 | revdjenk | we'll be down there for meetings the weekend of the 22-23rd |
| 02:03.42 | adamant1988 | 22-23rd? |
| 02:03.46 | revdjenk | yep |
| 02:03.48 | adamant1988 | you and I will have to set up a meeting ^_^ |
| 02:03.53 | adamant1988 | I can bring my laptop lol. |
| 02:04.00 | revdjenk | speaking of meetings...of course |
| 02:04.12 | adamant1988 | lol |
| 02:04.12 | revdjenk | have you had the meeting with the school system, yet |
| 02:04.27 | adamant1988 | No, I'm getting all my research and such together and having everything in working order |
| 02:04.38 | revdjenk | we will preaching somewhere else that Sunday, acutally |
| 02:04.42 | adamant1988 | my laptop is a demo system and I'm debating on if I should install Kubuntu or regular Ubuntu |
| 02:04.59 | revdjenk | when will you be presenting to the school board? |
| 02:05.07 | revdjenk | Kubunut |
| 02:05.14 | adamant1988 | Most likely closer to december. |
| 02:05.25 | adamant1988 | The thing with using Kubuntu though is it's not 'really' ubuntu |
| 02:05.37 | revdjenk | *Kubuntu... it would be more lke windows... remember the crowd you will be talking to |
| 02:05.56 | adamant1988 | Yeah, I also don't want to confuse them with derivatives and all of that. |
| 02:06.09 | revdjenk | how about Mepis... read a review that said mepis was a better kubuntu then kubuntu |
| 02:06.18 | adamant1988 | The kubuntu logo is different as well which presents another problem for me... |
| 02:06.41 | revdjenk | oh, because of the certification? |
| 02:06.42 | adamant1988 | I could push mepis because it's made in WV... but it comes within 2" of breaking laws just as soon as it's installed. |
| 02:06.56 | revdjenk | oh, yes.... non-free |
| 02:07.28 | adamant1988 | Well my issue is, Kubuntu provides KDE and KDE may well be more stable, but it's a derivative and it comes off as less supported |
| 02:07.38 | roxville | kubuntu basically still sucks... it is amazing |
| 02:07.50 | roxville | hiya revdjenk :) |
| 02:07.51 | revdjenk | hey svelte swede!! |
| 02:08.01 | roxville | adamant1988, :) |
| 02:08.26 | adamant1988 | When the certification is made for Ubuntu (notice the lack of a K) the school systems going to "???" when I say "kubuntu" |
| 02:08.26 | revdjenk | adamant1988 is making a presentation for his local school board about turning to linux from the dark side! |
| 02:08.49 | adamant1988 | they can get Ubuntu certification, but there's no mention of a kubuntu |
| 02:09.00 | revdjenk | doesn't kubuntu have that same cert? |
| 02:09.06 | revdjenk | ah... |
| 02:09.14 | adamant1988 | yeah, but I'm not going to have all the time in the world to explain it to them. |
| 02:09.28 | roxville | lol, no... |
| 02:09.57 | adamant1988 | the presintation needs to be short sweet and effective.. and I don't know if I can do that while saying "there's 3 versions" |
| 02:10.00 | adamant1988 | brb |
| 02:10.20 | revdjenk | roxville, adamant1988 says it may be the toughest thing to explain linux |
| 02:10.31 | revdjenk | only 3? |
| 02:10.47 | roxville | yeah KDE, Gnome and Xfce |
| 02:10.56 | revdjenk | enlightenment, don't forget |
| 02:11.07 | revdjenk | then xubuntu, edubuntu |
| 02:11.20 | adamant1988 | that was an example |
| 02:11.23 | roxville | Xfce = xubuntu |
| 02:11.30 | adamant1988 | and there are really 3 main ones that you can get from shipit |
| 02:11.32 | revdjenk | there is a company selling bare boxes with edubuntu, for around $430us |
| 02:11.33 | roxville | edubuntu is gnome |
| 02:11.42 | revdjenk | *$430 |
| 02:11.49 | adamant1988 | which is a requirement for me to pitch it. The school won't trust anything that needs to be burned at home. |
| 02:12.01 | roxville | hehe |
| 02:12.14 | roxville | but ubuntu ships for free... |
| 02:12.18 | adamant1988 | not xubuntu |
| 02:12.23 | revdjenk | so does kubuntu |
| 02:12.25 | roxville | they'll ship edubuntu... |
| 02:12.28 | adamant1988 | yeah |
| 02:12.30 | revdjenk | yep |
| 02:12.36 | adamant1988 | but edubuntu is geared to 10 year olds it seems |
| 02:12.40 | roxville | but it's not a school for smaller kids... right? |
| 02:12.46 | roxville | yeah, ok |
| 02:12.47 | revdjenk | they are saying 10-18 |
| 02:12.47 | adamant1988 | high school. |
| 02:12.55 | roxville | gotya |
| 02:13.31 | revdjenk | I say really confuse 'em with elive!!! the kids would love it anyway!! |
| 02:13.37 | adamant1988 | it doesn't look like it from the screens |
| 02:13.56 | roxville | xandros would be the best choice... but maybe they have the same problem with non-free stuff |
| 02:14.07 | adamant1988 | yeah, but again Elive isn't a commercially funded program... the school would never allow it. |
| 02:14.11 | revdjenk | they have three different themes...and change with the age of the kids |
| 02:14.33 | roxville | remember that, you WILL break the law if you don't pay for those non-free things inside the us |
| 02:14.47 | adamant1988 | which is another thing that Ubuntu doesn't do. |
| 02:14.47 | revdjenk | ah, you need the support.. what about Lindows...uh....Linspire? |
| 02:14.55 | adamant1988 | I've looked at it |
| 02:15.02 | adamant1988 | And it's my runner up option to ubuntu |
| 02:15.04 | roxville | i would suggest Xandros |
| 02:15.17 | adamant1988 | xandros 4 still has some kinks to get out |
| 02:15.22 | revdjenk | it has Crossover built in, too |
| 02:15.30 | adamant1988 | read the reviews on the user forum.. it's slow as hell. |
| 02:15.53 | revdjenk | that's right, I read that, too |
| 02:16.03 | roxville | my friend who works at a computer repair place tests most of the computers they get in with different distros |
| 02:16.15 | adamant1988 | plus I'm also going to demo the distro I support for the presentation with my laptop |
| 02:16.18 | roxville | and xandros is the one with the least probs so far |
| 02:16.25 | adamant1988 | which means I will have to personally purchase a copy of Xandros. |
| 02:16.38 | roxville | well... |
| 02:16.42 | roxville | :D |
| 02:16.44 | revdjenk | don't they have a download version? |
| 02:16.51 | adamant1988 | not yet |
| 02:16.53 | roxville | you could find a torrent version... |
| 02:17.07 | roxville | sort of... |
| 02:17.19 | roxville | pi-rated |
| 02:17.21 | adamant1988 | I was thinking about Xandros but I also am planning on scaling my project into the community after I finish with the school. |
| 02:17.25 | revdjenk | If you contact them with your story, I bet you might get a deal... |
| 02:17.48 | adamant1988 | and let's face it... Ubuntu is the google of linux right now |
| 02:18.12 | roxville | i really really like ubuntu... still |
| 02:18.22 | roxville | but... |
| 02:18.28 | roxville | with GNOME |
| 02:18.34 | roxville | kubuntu SUCKS |
| 02:19.01 | roxville | and... most ppl would like the looks of KDE |
| 02:19.02 | revdjenk | but they are all so plain next to our elive.... |
| 02:19.21 | roxville | yes revdjenk ... they are... |
| 02:19.31 | adamant1988 | yes... KDE is more flashy than gnome |
| 02:19.36 | adamant1988 | but I vastly prefer gnome myself |
| 02:19.42 | roxville | yep |
| 02:19.47 | revdjenk | it is also more "windows-like |
| 02:19.59 | adamant1988 | which I'm sure is important to the school =\ |
| 02:20.13 | adamant1988 | I don't know... so really my options are Ubuntu, Xandros, and Linspire |
| 02:20.19 | revdjenk | yes, to those being introduced to Linux |
| 02:20.36 | adamant1988 | I have free copies of Ubuntu, and a copy of Linspire. I don't have Xandros... |
| 02:20.43 | adamant1988 | I would need the full version to test too... |
| 02:21.11 | revdjenk | What if you contact Mepis for an all 'free' version... you know and keep it in the state? |
| 02:21.21 | revdjenk | oh, yes, no support |
| 02:21.36 | adamant1988 | yeah... that's what I'm saying... the school needs commercial |
| 02:21.46 | roxville | adamant1988, you CAN find a free version of xandros... for testing... |
| 02:21.50 | adamant1988 | That's one of the requirements at their base... |
| 02:22.11 | adamant1988 | it has to be supported... if something doesn't work there has to be someone they can call. |
| 02:22.13 | revdjenk | what if you provide the service? You could start your own business |
| 02:22.24 | adamant1988 | I don't have near the experience. |
| 02:22.44 | roxville | trust me, you'll get it real quick :) |
| 02:22.45 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 02:22.47 | adamant1988 | heh. |
| 02:23.02 | adamant1988 | While, I would love the experience, I might actually work to set up a support station in town. |
| 02:23.24 | adamant1988 | I'm going to use the school as a base test... if it's mildly successful, I'm going to spread the program to the community |
| 02:23.38 | revdjenk | Yes, roxville, adamant1988 and I are going to start the first elive club whenever, if ever, we move |
| 02:23.52 | roxville | cool :) |
| 02:24.03 | adamant1988 | Which is another reason I need to get a distro that is cheap, easy, and supported (even for home users) |
| 02:24.21 | adamant1988 | Right now Ubuntu is just one step short of being ag reat home distro |
| 02:24.25 | revdjenk | that's what IRC is for |
| 02:24.27 | adamant1988 | and they're fixing that in Edgy. |
| 02:24.52 | adamant1988 | rev, you know the kind people these are.. they have never seen a command line... how can we expect them to know what IRC even is? |
| 02:25.12 | *** join/#elive pales_rider (n=pas@nj-71-2-39-228.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 02:25.25 | roxville | evenin' patty |
| 02:25.33 | revdjenk | now, wait one minute! Some of those older ppl like pales_rider grew up on the command line in DOS |
| 02:25.36 | pales_rider | hi chris |
| 02:25.42 | revdjenk | hey pales_rider ! |
| 02:25.50 | revdjenk | wow, first name basis!!! |
| 02:25.51 | pales_rider | hi rev |
| 02:26.02 | revdjenk | good evening bootiful |
| 02:26.15 | pales_rider | awwh |
| 02:26.18 | adamant1988 | idk, xandros is the more attractive commercial offering (linspire is too money hungry) but Ubuntu has that popularity and all there... |
| 02:26.39 | adamant1988 | plus it has the fact that it is 100% free to start with as a big plus |
| 02:26.48 | adamant1988 | the school doesn't lose much money in the switch. |
| 02:27.09 | roxville | yes ubuntu is not a bad choice... but i can not understand WHY KDE SUCKS on ubuntu |
| 02:27.11 | revdjenk | you said, you'll have those 50 cd's to hand out... that will get their attention, too |
| 02:27.23 | adamant1988 | yeah I'm only getting 30 |
| 02:27.28 | adamant1988 | shipit downsized my order |
| 02:27.32 | revdjenk | ah |
| 02:27.39 | revdjenk | I |
| 02:27.53 | adamant1988 | that's another thing I'll have to look at is Xandros's liscensing |
| 02:28.00 | adamant1988 | how many computer can it legally be installed on. |
| 02:28.02 | roxville | darn... i never ordered any dapper cd's... |
| 02:28.10 | roxville | i would have sent 'em to ya |
| 02:28.11 | adamant1988 | I ordered them as soon as I got the chance. |
| 02:28.26 | revdjenk | I ordered 10 kubuntu's... |
| 02:28.30 | adamant1988 | I got 5 Ubuntu in the mail the other day |
| 02:28.33 | adamant1988 | still waiting on Kubuntu |
| 02:28.42 | revdjenk | I see it as a way to linux...and then maybe to elive |
| 02:29.11 | adamant1988 | If enlightenment were 'complete' and elive were a commercial offering I would support it wholy as an option |
| 02:29.24 | adamant1988 | but neither of those criteria are met... |
| 02:29.47 | revdjenk | I bet for the right salary, Thana would take that one |
| 02:30.10 | roxville | yeah |
| 02:30.13 | adamant1988 | But yeah, Ubuntu Edgy is solving the home problem (no codecs and no DVD support)... and they're free to start which means no webgames for the students. |
| 02:30.16 | revdjenk | Thana, move to Elkins, where there aren't any elk! |
| 02:30.33 | roxville | he made a internet cafe version for a friend |
| 02:30.36 | adamant1988 | Xandros... I'm not sure... I'll need to research it more... |
| 02:30.47 | roxville | but that's easy... take out most of the apps :) |
| 02:30.49 | revdjenk | yes, I remember that |
| 02:31.09 | pales_rider | rev...did you move? |
| 02:31.40 | revdjenk | not yet, my wife and I go to check and be checked out on the weekend of 22-23rd July |
| 02:31.51 | roxville | pales_rider, his name is harold |
| 02:32.03 | revdjenk | If we are hired, we wouldn't move until mid-August |
| 02:32.12 | revdjenk | LOL |
| 02:32.25 | revdjenk | Harold Jenkins... do you know who that is? |
| 02:32.44 | pales_rider | you |
| 02:32.56 | adamant1988 | Freespire comes out in August |
| 02:33.00 | adamant1988 | I'm excited about that lol |
| 02:33.03 | revdjenk | no, that is Conway Twitty's real name!!! honest |
| 02:33.13 | roxville | yep, it is |
| 02:33.38 | roxville | adamant1988, i sure hope freespire will look better than it does now... |
| 02:33.43 | pales_rider | well what do ya know |
| 02:33.52 | adamant1988 | yeah me too |
| 02:33.58 | roxville | revdjenk, do you know freddy fenders real name? |
| 02:34.02 | revdjenk | and as far as I know, we aren't related |
| 02:34.06 | pales_rider | but it looks like you are going to WV? |
| 02:34.10 | LinuxNIT-II | wazup people |
| 02:34.11 | adamant1988 | Idk roxville... I'm looking at xandros it looks very professional... |
| 02:34.12 | revdjenk | dented fenders? |
| 02:34.20 | roxville | lol |
| 02:34.24 | revdjenk | probably, yes at the moment |
| 02:34.25 | roxville | manuel huerta |
| 02:34.44 | adamant1988 | I think you're right about that test version roxville although I'm against the principle... |
| 02:34.57 | roxville | of course :) |
| 02:35.00 | pales_rider | ohhh lucky you rev |
| 02:35.06 | roxville | but just for a test-drive... |
| 02:35.11 | pales_rider | sorry..but you are rev to me now...cant change it |
| 02:35.19 | revdjenk | what, going to WV or not related to conway? |
| 02:35.30 | pales_rider | going to wv |
| 02:35.30 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 02:35.37 | pales_rider | no elk in elkin |
| 02:35.42 | revdjenk | LOL |
| 02:35.51 | roxville | lol |
| 02:36.03 | revdjenk | well if I were a hunter or fisher, it would really be exciting |
| 02:36.16 | revdjenk | hey LinuxNIT-II .... I just read you! |
| 02:36.32 | pales_rider | hey LinuxNIT-II |
| 02:36.44 | roxville | hey LinuxNIT-II |
| 02:36.46 | pales_rider | dont pay no mind to him..hes a PITA...lol |
| 02:36.48 | revdjenk | why are you a II/ |
| 02:36.49 | roxville | :D |
| 02:36.50 | pales_rider | right chris? |
| 02:36.52 | revdjenk | ? |
| 02:36.52 | adamant1988 | xandros 4 isn't available yet as an iso... |
| 02:36.57 | LinuxNIT-II | howdy |
| 02:37.01 | roxville | revdjenk, he's testing his new lappy :) |
| 02:37.02 | LinuxNIT-II | howdy pales_rider roxville revdjenk |
| 02:37.18 | revdjenk | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.35 | LinuxNIT-II | yeah |
| 02:37.36 | revdjenk | faster than Thana's |
| 02:37.38 | LinuxNIT-II | love in it |
| 02:37.44 | roxville | yeah. the little f***er got a new lappy... |
| 02:37.49 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 02:37.53 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
| 02:37.53 | adamant1988 | lolol |
| 02:38.01 | revdjenk | AMD 64? dual?? |
| 02:38.02 | LinuxNIT-II | well... "new" |
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| 02:38.09 | LinuxNIT-II | used off ebay |
| 02:38.17 | revdjenk | yayay |
| 02:38.18 | LinuxNIT-II | nah 1.3ghz centrino |
| 02:38.18 | pales_rider | LinuxNIT-II, you missed my humor this afternoon |
| 02:38.18 | roxville | hello Elive_user10 |
| 02:38.24 | pales_rider | i wish i had it logged |
| 02:38.24 | LinuxNIT-II | pales_rider, so i heard |
| 02:38.30 | pales_rider | oh? |
| 02:38.33 | revdjenk | hey Elive_user10 |
| 02:38.51 | pales_rider | what did you hear? |
| 02:39.00 | revdjenk | you are always in good humor pales_rider !! |
| 02:39.02 | LinuxNIT-II | that i missed your humor |
| 02:39.02 | adamant1988 | brb guys |
| 02:39.04 | LinuxNIT-II | thats all |
| 02:39.10 | revdjenk | bye, Elive user 10 |
| 02:39.12 | pales_rider | thanks rev |
| 02:39.19 | revdjenk | s |
| 02:39.23 | pales_rider | except when LinuxNIT-II is picking on me |
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| 02:39.29 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 02:39.33 | LinuxNIT-II | Meeeeeee? |
| 02:39.39 | pales_rider | yes you |
| 02:39.40 | LinuxNIT-II | yeah ok probabbly |
| 02:39.43 | pales_rider | uh huh |
| 02:39.43 | revdjenk | that's out of love, I am sure |
| 02:39.49 | LinuxNIT-II | ;) |
| 02:39.52 | LinuxNIT-II | of course |
| 02:40.06 | pales_rider | LOL thats what chris says |
| 02:40.13 | roxville | <mickey777> roxville, pale_horse, wasynyt, sinplomo thanks it's working. luv you folks. |
| 02:40.13 | roxville | <pales_rider> i taught them everything they know |
| 02:40.23 | pales_rider | hehehehehehehe |
| 02:40.23 | revdjenk | LinuxNIT-II, did you give it all to linux, or what? |
| 02:40.44 | pales_rider | yup...that was it |
| 02:40.44 | roxville | <mickey777> pales_rider I don't remember talking with you before. |
| 02:40.44 | roxville | <pale_horse> yes pales_rider sure did |
| 02:40.44 | roxville | <pales_rider> lol |
| 02:40.44 | roxville | <pales_rider> i work behind the scenes |
| 02:40.48 | LinuxNIT-II | pales_rider, chris refers to aros love in thinkg more along the lines of phileo |
| 02:40.52 | roxville | <mickey777> but grateful for all the help here. |
| 02:40.52 | roxville | <pales_rider> oh no problem at all..anytime |
| 02:41.05 | roxville | <mickey777> so nice to use an os that I can play with so to speak |
| 02:41.05 | roxville | <mickey777> and it challenges me. it's nice. |
| 02:41.05 | roxville | <pales_rider> oh i agree |
| 02:41.11 | pales_rider | lol |
| 02:41.14 | pales_rider | it was funny |
| 02:41.22 | pales_rider | and he bought it |
| 02:41.25 | revdjenk | "works behind the scenes" LOLOLOLOL |
| 02:41.26 | pales_rider | nice guy too |
| 02:41.54 | pales_rider | so i took a little credit where it didnt belong |
| 02:42.14 | LinuxNIT-II | pales_rider, hahaha |
| 02:42.17 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
| 02:42.32 | LinuxNIT-II | pales_rider, we appreciate all you do ;0 |
| 02:42.36 | LinuxNIT-II | ;) |
| 02:42.39 | pales_rider | i cant find my way out of a paper bag when it comes to linux |
| 02:42.47 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 02:42.49 | revdjenk | join the group! |
| 02:42.52 | pales_rider | but he thinks im wonderful now |
| 02:42.58 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 02:42.58 | pales_rider | so be it |
| 02:43.06 | roxville | <mickey777> so is XEROX where I work. |
| 02:43.10 | roxville | <pales_rider> oh you work for zerox and you were having trouble with your printer huh? |
| 02:43.40 | revdjenk | hahahahaha |
| 02:43.43 | revdjenk | you kill, pales_rider !!! |
| 02:43.51 | roxville | <pales_rider> are you near sodus? <- or closer to gomorris? :) |
| 02:43.54 | *** join/#elive pale_horse (n=ces@12.160.126.219) |
| 02:43.56 | pales_rider | im such a wise ass |
| 02:43.59 | pales_rider | lol |
| 02:44.02 | pale_horse | uh huh |
| 02:44.03 | pales_rider | hi honey |
| 02:44.08 | pale_horse | hi sweetie |
| 02:44.10 | revdjenk | hey darling |
| 02:44.14 | pales_rider | lol |
| 02:44.20 | LinuxNIT-II | heya babe |
| 02:44.23 | pale_horse | :O |
| 02:44.25 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 02:44.29 | LinuxNIT-II | jk pale_horse |
| 02:44.29 | revdjenk | XOXOXOX |
| 02:44.31 | pales_rider | chris was pasting my coments this afternoon |
| 02:44.43 | pales_rider | was that funny or what? |
| 02:44.45 | pale_horse | uh huh .. I thought they were good |
| 02:44.48 | revdjenk | and she was pasting poor Mickey777 |
| 02:44.55 | pales_rider | yup i sure was |
| 02:45.00 | pales_rider | he bought every word |
| 02:45.28 | pales_rider | well wouldnt it seem funny if he worked for xerox and he said his printer didnt work? |
| 02:46.06 | revdjenk | better yet, if it was his copier |
| 02:46.20 | pales_rider | uh huh |
| 02:47.32 | pales_rider | ok so i go to the mechanic to pick up my car after work...,, |
| 02:47.32 | revdjenk | but did you hear about my wise remark to thana? |
| 02:48.05 | revdjenk | the day he returned from his holiday, I asked when .6 would be ready |
| 02:48.10 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 02:48.16 | pales_rider | and i had paid for it by phone this afternoon and told them to leave the keys in it and leave it unlocked.... |
| 02:48.17 | roxville | hehe |
| 02:48.20 | pales_rider | lol |
| 02:48.35 | pales_rider | so i get there to pick it up..they are closed and guess what? |
| 02:48.49 | revdjenk | no phone? |
| 02:48.51 | pales_rider | the doors are locked on my car... |
| 02:49.00 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 02:49.01 | pales_rider | and the keys are inside... |
| 02:49.09 | roxville | oh shit! |
| 02:49.11 | pales_rider | soooo now i need my car for the morning..... |
| 02:49.18 | revdjenk | of course, you were suupposed to bring the other set |
| 02:49.23 | pales_rider | so i call AAA...... |
| 02:49.30 | pales_rider | i only have one damn key... |
| 02:49.37 | pales_rider | and AAA says.... |
| 02:49.49 | pales_rider | your membership expired on july 1st.... |
| 02:49.57 | revdjenk | where is that bear when you need him? |
| 02:50.04 | revdjenk | LOL |
| 02:50.08 | pales_rider | grrr...may i renew it by phone....oh yes of course you can...... |
| 02:50.08 | roxville | the "i tought them everything they know" comment rings more and more hollow... |
| 02:50.32 | pales_rider | so i renew my membership and tell them i need lock service.... |
| 02:50.51 | pales_rider | and she says where are you? i said at my mechanic....blah blah blah.... |
| 02:50.55 | pales_rider | and she says.... |
| 02:51.01 | revdjenk | LOL |
| 02:51.04 | pale_horse | LOL |
| 02:51.06 | pale_horse | nothing is sacred |
| 02:51.14 | pales_rider | oh im sorry but i cant send someone to a mechanics property..... |
| 02:51.19 | pale_horse | well it WAS a brother printer |
| 02:51.23 | pale_horse | no |
| 02:51.26 | revdjenk | push the car into the street |
| 02:51.33 | LinuxNIT-II | revdjenk, lol |
| 02:51.41 | pales_rider | she would have to get verbal approval from the mechanic.... |
| 02:51.47 | pale_horse | in park ? |
| 02:51.52 | roxville | wow patty... that's amazing! |
| 02:51.53 | pales_rider | so they wouldnt be tresspassing... |
| 02:52.00 | LinuxNIT-II | pale_horse, just drop the drive shaft |
| 02:52.01 | revdjenk | the bear will help |
| 02:52.04 | LinuxNIT-II | ;) |
| 02:52.16 | roxville | it's something for harvey whats-his-name |
| 02:52.26 | pales_rider | and i said...IF I COULD GET A HOLD OF THE F%^&*$#G MECHANIC I WOULDNT NEED AAA!!!! |
| 02:52.39 | LinuxNIT-II | pales_rider, well i can see why..... some one might not have paid for repairs and just wants to get their car |
| 02:52.40 | revdjenk | of course, if they could call the mechanic, then you could ... right? hee hee |
| 02:53.00 | pale_horse | hey I wasn't there |
| 02:53.00 | pale_horse | I would have slim jimmed the damn lock |
| 02:53.10 | LinuxNIT-II | pale_horse, lol |
| 02:53.13 | pales_rider | i told her...i can see the receipt on the damn front seat! |
| 02:53.19 | pales_rider | sooooo |
| 02:53.23 | revdjenk | LOL |
| 02:53.26 | LinuxNIT-II | well in that case.... |
| 02:53.30 | pales_rider | oh charley i didnt tell youthis part yet either... |
| 02:53.36 | LinuxNIT-II | tell them you want youre money back |
| 02:53.38 | pale_horse | what hon |
| 02:53.47 | pales_rider | so i call a woman i work with..she lives near the mechanic... |
| 02:53.49 | revdjenk | did you use your phone cam to send her a pic |
| 02:53.51 | pales_rider | bethann.... |
| 02:53.57 | pale_horse | uh huh |
| 02:54.12 | pales_rider | and i go to her house and get some hangers and try to break into my own stupid car!! |
| 02:54.21 | pales_rider | no luck |
| 02:54.34 | adamant1988 | hrmmm xandros networks reminds me of CNR |
| 02:54.34 | revdjenk | another hangup |
| 02:54.50 | pales_rider | so my daughter who had brought me there says...so mom..how you getting back here in the morng? |
| 02:54.51 | revdjenk | yep |
| 02:54.54 | pales_rider | oh hush rev..lol |
| 02:55.13 | revdjenk | NO WIRE HANGERS! |
| 02:55.15 | pales_rider | well DUHHHH i guess you are bringing me back... |
| 02:55.22 | pales_rider | she says ME???? |
| 02:55.26 | pale_horse | uh huh |
| 02:55.33 | revdjenk | LOL |
| 02:55.41 | pales_rider | at that point i went off the wall |
| 02:55.49 | pales_rider | i totally lost it |
| 02:56.02 | revdjenk | rock paper windshield |
| 02:56.07 | pales_rider | and that was my evening |
| 02:56.41 | pales_rider | and mind you she hit a deer the other night and smashed the front of my other car...still drivable thank goodness |
| 02:56.44 | roxville | revdjenk, LOL |
| 02:57.08 | pales_rider | so who wants to be me for a while? i need a break..lol |
| 02:57.14 | revdjenk | manuel huerta? |
| 02:57.14 | roxville | how'd ya cook the deer? |
| 02:57.21 | pales_rider | lol |
| 02:57.22 | revdjenk | dented fender? |
| 02:57.35 | roxville | revdjenk, freddy fenders real name is manuel huerta |
| 02:57.43 | revdjenk | LOL |
| 02:58.09 | pales_rider | all i know is im going on vacation in 2 weeks and i need it more than ever |
| 02:58.16 | revdjenk | yay |
| 02:58.24 | pales_rider | uh huh |
| 02:58.35 | pales_rider | thanks chris |
| 02:58.47 | roxville | spend one day with my daughter and all that seems VERY trivial... |
| 02:59.00 | pales_rider | in 2 weeks im gonna get ALOT of hugs...hehehhehe |
| 02:59.02 | revdjenk | and she's just three! |
| 02:59.04 | roxville | nah, just kidding |
| 02:59.12 | revdjenk | hmmmmm |
| 02:59.17 | revdjenk | nothing more? |
| 02:59.28 | roxville | revdjenk, ... |
| 02:59.29 | pales_rider | oh ya think? my daughter is 18 and im still paying my dues |
| 02:59.30 | revdjenk | I mean, nothing more! |
| 02:59.46 | roxville | LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL |
| 03:00.47 | roxville | restrain... |
| 03:00.50 | revdjenk | I can hear you here! |
| 03:00.51 | pales_rider | you come talk to me in another few years |
| 03:00.53 | roxville | whatever |
| 03:01.24 | revdjenk | they grow up fast... I mean quickly ! |
| 03:01.36 | revdjenk | being fast is another matter all together! |
| 03:02.06 | roxville | http://blog.madduck.net/debian/2006.05.24-ubuntu-and-debian |
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| 03:02.16 | pales_rider | wb |
| 03:02.23 | roxville | wb charley |
| 03:04.41 | pale_horse_ | ty |
| 03:04.43 | pale_horse_ | ouch that hurt |
| 03:04.53 | pale_horse_ | ty ty ty |
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| 03:06.05 | pales_rider | sit still |
| 03:06.40 | pale_horse | connection got flaky |
| 03:06.46 | pale_horse | sorry |
| 03:07.00 | roxville | we forgive ya |
| 03:07.21 | pales_rider | thats rev's job |
| 03:07.46 | pale_horse | not my fault - only broadband I can get |
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| 03:08.04 | pale_horse | after 2 years I find out about it |
| 03:09.40 | revdjenk | no its God's job |
| 03:09.42 | roxville | wow, the elive_users get older and older... |
| 03:09.57 | pales_rider | i hear you have a connection |
| 03:10.04 | revdjenk | I hope.... |
| 03:10.22 | roxville | hello? |
| 03:10.42 | pales_rider | need a battery in your hearing aid chris? |
| 03:10.46 | pales_rider | HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 03:10.47 | roxville | i think it's ok for US to forgive pale_horse for having a flaky connection! |
| 03:10.48 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 03:10.59 | pale_horse | ty ty ty |
| 03:11.03 | pale_horse | I'm humbled |
| 03:11.14 | revdjenk | I'm hungry |
| 03:11.21 | revdjenk | apt time-to |
| 03:11.22 | apt | [time-to] its HAMBRITA TIME!!! |
| 03:11.36 | roxville | lol |
| 03:11.46 | pales_rider | ohhh no |
| 03:12.00 | pales_rider | not hambrita time.... |
| 03:12.14 | revdjenk | brb |
| 03:12.57 | pale_horse | what is a hambrita |
| 03:13.01 | pales_rider | lol |
| 03:13.09 | pales_rider | it doesnt translate well |
| 03:13.33 | pales_rider | it means hungry time or something like that |
| 03:15.04 | roxville | it means "a little hungry" |
| 03:15.13 | pales_rider | uh huh |
| 03:15.25 | roxville | it's a mexicanified word... |
| 03:15.38 | roxville | doesn't asctually exist in spanish |
| 03:15.45 | revdjenk | guy named Mutacion keyed that into apt...it was his slang term for 'it's time to eat something' |
| 03:15.51 | roxville | like "y'all" in english :) |
| 03:16.12 | revdjenk | I thought it was a drink ... |
| 03:16.14 | pale_horse | w00t I can go for hambrita time |
| 03:16.34 | roxville | revdjenk, you think everything is a drink... |
| 03:16.39 | LinuxNIT-II | ok this is scary |
| 03:16.41 | pales_rider | well im saying good night |
| 03:16.41 | LinuxNIT-II | http://purl.rikers.org/%23elive/20060322.html.gz |
| 03:16.42 | roxville | that you don't know what it is |
| 03:16.48 | LinuxNIT-II | g'night pales_rider |
| 03:16.51 | revdjenk | as long as it contains rum and cola |
| 03:16.52 | pale_horse | nite nite honey |
| 03:17.02 | roxville | pales_rider, sleep tight... and give 'em hell tomorrow |
| 03:17.06 | revdjenk | g'nite pale_horse |
| 03:17.07 | pales_rider | night hon |
| 03:17.10 | revdjenk | pales_rider, |
| 03:17.15 | pales_rider | hehehehe |
| 03:17.26 | revdjenk | rock paper windshield |
| 03:17.29 | pales_rider | heads will roll |
| 03:17.31 | pale_horse | poor girl is up at 5 |
| 03:17.31 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 03:17.36 | pales_rider | nah..it was an honest mistake |
| 03:17.48 | roxville | who cares? |
| 03:17.55 | pale_horse | me damn it |
| 03:18.09 | roxville | "honest mistake"... silly phrase... |
| 03:18.11 | pale_horse | 5 there is 4 here |
| 03:18.13 | pales_rider | nooooo charley he meant about it was a mistake |
| 03:18.17 | pale_horse | oh ok |
| 03:18.19 | pale_horse | :P |
| 03:18.29 | pales_rider | my little redneck pitbull..lol |
| 03:18.30 | roxville | lol |
| 03:18.34 | pale_horse | a fucks pas ? |
| 03:18.39 | revdjenk | lol |
| 03:18.45 | roxville | hehe |
| 03:18.51 | revdjenk | LOL |
| 03:18.56 | pales_rider | night |
| 03:20.13 | roxville | http://blog.madduck.net/debian/2006.05.24-ubuntu-and-debian |
| 03:20.25 | roxville | again... this is a pretty good blog... |
| 03:20.42 | revdjenk | roxville, what are the major differences between Debian and ubuntu? |
| 03:21.18 | revdjenk | besides, 'not giving back' |
| 03:21.52 | pale_horse | when the wind blows trees get in my line of sight borking my connection |
| 03:21.56 | revdjenk | or is that the only complaint |
| 03:22.46 | revdjenk | aha.... tree trimming party ! |
| 03:22.49 | roxville | revdjenk, read the blog... it's pretty descriptive |
| 03:23.25 | revdjenk | yes, read it... but there must be more to that, right? are they seeing ubuntu as forking Debian or something? |
| 03:23.39 | roxville | but the major things that make them INCOMPATIBLE in many ways, is a different glibc6 |
| 03:23.58 | roxville | but yes, ubuntu IS a debian fork |
| 03:24.23 | roxville | plus a few other libs that i can never learn |
| 03:24.28 | pale_horse | a far far distant cousin |
| 03:24.56 | roxville | IMO, not that far... but thery're getting there... |
| 03:24.56 | pale_horse | mepis is using ubuntu sources and repo now |
| 03:25.10 | revdjenk | aha... and since they have become the linux darling (sorry to steal your thunder, pale_horse ) the Debian camp is upset... and they ahve been so true to their message and word for son long |
| 03:25.11 | roxville | yes, they switched recently |
| 03:25.59 | pale_horse | no sweat rev .. I am pretty much done with debian any way |
| 03:26.00 | roxville | yes... and a lot of this... antagonism... has rubbed off on a young man we all know... :) |
| 03:26.05 | revdjenk | and Mepis had been in the true Debian camp... what was that group DCC or something |
| 03:26.37 | revdjenk | which young man...thana? |
| 03:26.43 | pale_horse | 3.4.3 was the last good mepis |
| 03:26.52 | roxville | revdjenk, yes :) |
| 03:27.07 | revdjenk | which camp is he in? |
| 03:27.20 | roxville | revdjenk, you are kidding... right? |
| 03:27.29 | roxville | let's see... |
| 03:27.31 | revdjenk | no, I assume Debian |
| 03:27.34 | roxville | apt, ubuntu |
| 03:27.35 | apt | from memory, ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ and/or visit #ubuntu, on irc.freenode.net. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 03:27.46 | roxville | and this is the new, NICE version! |
| 03:28.02 | roxville | oh wow... |
| 03:28.18 | revdjenk | aah |
| 03:28.46 | revdjenk | change to what pale_horse ? |
| 03:28.53 | roxville | it used to be "Ubuntu is caca from this ass" http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.virgolamobile.net/wp-content/plugins/lazy-gallery/lazy-img.php%3Ffile%3Dimmagini%2520usate%2520nei%2520post/ubuntu-ass.jpg%26thumb%3D1&imgrefurl=http://www.virgolamobile.net/&h=110&w=110&sz=4&hl=en&sig2=X40MWQ0lrK3ubSnkjdb12A&start=6&tbnid=rt6Y22FvQ4gX4M:&tbnh=80&tbnw=80&ei=59StRLTdLLiM6wG71omxDg&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2B%2B%2Bubuntu%2Bass%26 |
| 03:28.54 | roxville | svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:unofficial%26sa%3DN |
| 03:28.57 | pale_horse | CLFS |
| 03:29.07 | roxville | dang, that's a long link... |
| 03:29.24 | revdjenk | wow |
| 03:29.31 | pale_horse | CLFS = cross platform LFS \ |
| 03:29.45 | revdjenk | lfs is what? |
| 03:30.05 | pale_horse | linux from scratch |
| 03:30.18 | pale_horse | you build your own tool chain from source |
| 03:30.19 | revdjenk | thnx |
| 03:30.37 | pale_horse | will take me maybe a week to get a CLI bootable with net |
| 03:31.01 | pale_horse | but I can't be on it all day |
| 03:31.20 | pale_horse | gentoo bored me |
| 03:31.25 | roxville | lol |
| 03:31.32 | adamant1988 | hrmmm |
| 03:31.35 | pale_horse | I want a PURE 64 bit OS |
| 03:31.38 | adamant1988 | I'm going to have to do some work on my laptop |
| 03:31.46 | revdjenk | wow,... you are the man, pale_horse |
| 03:31.55 | adamant1988 | roxville thanks for the suggestion about Xandros |
| 03:32.00 | roxville | revdjenk, he is... |
| 03:32.10 | pale_horse | oh I have resources far brighter than myself for support |
| 03:32.17 | roxville | adamant1988, np... i would love to suggest elive... |
| 03:32.29 | revdjenk | has anyone heard of the OS called Open Source or Operating System? |
| 03:32.31 | roxville | but in a sit like that... xandros is a great choice |
| 03:32.42 | pale_horse | without my buds I wouldn't dream of it |
| 03:32.54 | revdjenk | he needs commercial support to hold hands of the school board |
| 03:32.56 | pale_horse | revdjenk, not me |
| 03:33.51 | adamant1988 | yeah, well I'm also looking for something I can suggest to the community roxville |
| 03:34.00 | revdjenk | from what I have heard, sounds like it matches some of the 3d world that thana has on his web site... |
| 03:34.05 | pale_horse | \o/ |
| 03:34.21 | pale_horse | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:34.28 | pale_horse | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:34.29 | revdjenk | \0/ |
| 03:34.35 | roxville | hehe |
| 03:34.43 | roxville | it works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:34.46 | adamant1988 | lol |
| 03:34.49 | pale_horse | he he he |
| 03:35.32 | roxville | \o/ |
| 03:35.56 | revdjenk | so xandros looks better for you in this case, adamant1988 ? |
| 03:36.25 | adamant1988 | well that is if the community is going to be more receptive of $80 to switch to Xandros =\ |
| 03:36.32 | pale_horse | xandros or linspire as an option |
| 03:36.43 | pale_horse | linspire isn't bad I hear |
| 03:36.49 | adamant1988 | Linspire isn't bad |
| 03:36.58 | adamant1988 | but this is an economically strapped area |
| 03:37.20 | adamant1988 | and adding another $50 a year for CNR for some families isn't an option |
| 03:37.34 | adamant1988 | not to mention that not everyone here has decent Internet |
| 03:37.52 | revdjenk | and it would have all the features that teachers and school admins may not want available, also |
| 03:37.55 | pale_horse | ahh ok .. gotcha |
| 03:38.11 | adamant1988 | yeah, that's another thin Ubuntu has going for it |
| 03:38.15 | adamant1988 | no non-free things |
| 03:38.23 | adamant1988 | no flash games for the kiddies (that's a big problem) |
| 03:38.42 | revdjenk | or movie viewing |
| 03:38.49 | adamant1988 | or streaming music. |
| 03:39.08 | revdjenk | oh no.... no youtube!!! |
| 03:39.20 | adamant1988 | All those little things the school tries to stop them from doing (the school almost lost it's internet deal because of 'inapropriate' use of the connection |
| 03:39.23 | adamant1988 | ) |
| 03:39.56 | adamant1988 | so suggesting something that disables all those little things by default is another major plus |
| 03:40.06 | adamant1988 | I think you're right about the KDE thing though |
| 03:40.52 | adamant1988 | Xandros looks like it's the best option but I'm not sure about the home users... I honestly don't know if home users will benefit more from Ubuntu/Kubuntu or Xandros. |
| 03:41.22 | pale_horse | adamant1988, trust me I know impoverished areas .. this is the poorest county in the state - not even 911 service |
| 03:41.53 | adamant1988 | we don't have one either |
| 03:41.54 | pale_horse | I call 911 I get springfield - 70 miles away |
| 03:42.20 | pale_horse | we call the video store for rescue / fire dispatch |
| 03:42.41 | adamant1988 | Which is why I'm SERIOUSLY thinking Ubuntu would be the better option. it's free |
| 03:42.45 | adamant1988 | all the packages for it are free |
| 03:43.04 | adamant1988 | but it's not as windows compatible or use friendly as xandros is... |
| 03:43.06 | pale_horse | when I got sick last year they were here in 7 minutes at 2300 hrs |
| 03:43.21 | revdjenk | that's a quick response |
| 03:43.30 | pale_horse | all volunteer |
| 03:43.44 | revdjenk | yep, was volunteer firefighter/EMT |
| 03:43.54 | pale_horse | paramedics showed then the ammalance |
| 03:44.13 | revdjenk | well done!!! |
| 03:44.34 | pale_horse | then last spring the paramedics put in a huge AC window unit cause I didn't have any |
| 03:44.59 | pale_horse | I gave it back in Sept when I got my hvac installed |
| 03:45.04 | adamant1988 | so pale_horse coming from an area such as mine... would you say that xandros is the best option? or should I opt for K/ubuntu? |
| 03:45.07 | pale_horse | < along with a check > |
| 03:45.37 | revdjenk | great little volunteer team you have! |
| 03:45.54 | pale_horse | adamant1988, I have never explored xandros but x/k/e/ubuntu is a great solution |
| 03:46.03 | adamant1988 | That's my feeling too. |
| 03:46.04 | pale_horse | rev they are SUPER |
| 03:46.06 | roxville | adamant1988, Ubuntu would be the choice... you can maybe show both... |
| 03:46.09 | roxville | ? |
| 03:46.23 | adamant1988 | Well. I don't want to confuse people... |
| 03:46.33 | adamant1988 | What I want to do is set up a linux demo centre. |
| 03:46.38 | pale_horse | ubuntu or a variation then |
| 03:47.03 | adamant1988 | where people can come and see the linux technology running etc. It would have to be volunteer run, but I think I could put it together... |
| 03:47.15 | roxville | show them gnome and kde on the same pc |
| 03:47.23 | revdjenk | adamant1988, http://www.linuxloft.com/product_info.php?products_id=42 |
| 03:47.25 | pale_horse | bestest docs are gentoo but I realy believe it's dying |
| 03:47.31 | adamant1988 | Or show them multiple PCs |
| 03:47.32 | roxville | "chocolate or blueberry?" |
| 03:47.57 | pale_horse | to non literate types they wouldn't know the difference |
| 03:48.04 | pale_horse | look at TCO |
| 03:48.12 | revdjenk | that is the company making plain jane pc's with edubuntu loaded on it |
| 03:48.23 | adamant1988 | :) |
| 03:48.31 | adamant1988 | I'm working with system 76 on scoring a free computer for a student |
| 03:48.36 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@66.231.171.5) |
| 03:48.37 | adamant1988 | but I think Xandros is worth looking at. |
| 03:49.13 | pale_horse | will xandros run live cd on older hardware ? |
| 03:49.22 | adamant1988 | I don't think it has a live CD at all actually |
| 03:49.28 | pale_horse | you never know what it will get installed on |
| 03:49.34 | adamant1988 | Yeah... |
| 03:49.36 | revdjenk | yes, that may be a deal breaker there, pale_horse |
| 03:49.44 | adamant1988 | Another solid point |
| 03:49.47 | adamant1988 | but it has documentation |
| 03:49.54 | adamant1988 | Something ubuntu doesn't have |
| 03:49.58 | pale_horse | true |
| 03:50.13 | adamant1988 | documentation is important for home users |
| 03:50.18 | pale_horse | some folks want a box and a book ( that they never read ) |
| 03:50.30 | adamant1988 | it's tangible |
| 03:50.39 | revdjenk | but $89 is still cheaper than $200 or whatever Vista will be |
| 03:50.42 | pale_horse | sure it is |
| 03:50.43 | adamant1988 | they can feel and and they open up the box with a feeling of accomplishment. |
| 03:51.03 | adamant1988 | all that fancy stuff make them feel they 've gotten their money's worht. |
| 03:51.08 | pale_horse | vista will sure as hell not run on legacy stuff |
| 03:51.19 | adamant1988 | never |
| 03:51.25 | adamant1988 | I know for old systems I'm pushing Xubuntu |
| 03:51.29 | revdjenk | and sometimes, paying for something makes some ppl more serious about it |
| 03:52.04 | adamant1988 | yeah, another plus of xandros is that it's not .rpm or .deb restrictive |
| 03:52.06 | adamant1988 | it can install both |
| 03:52.27 | revdjenk | I just plug my usb drive with my puppy and load it in a window on windoze...!!! It freaks ppl out! |
| 03:53.11 | adamant1988 | lol nice. |
| 03:53.22 | revdjenk | and windoze thinks it is just another app running... |
| 03:54.11 | adamant1988 | nicely done. |
| 03:54.19 | adamant1988 | Yeah, I'm loading Kubuntu on my laptop right now. |
| 03:54.36 | adamant1988 | I just wish Kubuntu stuck true to it's home and kept the ubuntu human theme. |
| 03:54.38 | revdjenk | but my laptop is still so strange...I have to stick with what works the whole system... and elive was the first to give me audio and wireless |
| 03:55.00 | adamant1988 | Yeah, Ubuntu is doing really well with wireless I hear. |
| 03:55.10 | adamant1988 | I don't know I'll have to see about that when I get my new apartment. |
| 03:55.36 | revdjenk | kubuntu dapper still didn't find mine... |
| 03:55.43 | adamant1988 | =\ |
| 03:56.04 | revdjenk | I'm not the only one moving, then!! |
| 03:56.13 | adamant1988 | yeah, I'm moving out soon |
| 03:56.25 | revdjenk | parents sad? |
| 03:56.28 | adamant1988 | My mother is about to kick me out of the house (long story) and I need a place to go. |
| 03:56.34 | pale_horse | I'll need kernel 2.6.17 for mine to work |
| 03:56.36 | revdjenk | oh |
| 03:56.37 | roxville | sorry dudes... have a good night :) |
| 03:56.43 | pale_horse | nite roxville |
| 03:56.44 | adamant1988 | My father says I can stay with him until the apartment is finished. |
| 03:56.45 | revdjenk | g'nite roxville |
| 03:56.54 | revdjenk | yay |
| 03:56.54 | adamant1988 | gnight roxville |
| 03:57.03 | pale_horse | so this weekend I'll do a 2.6.17 |
| 03:57.16 | adamant1988 | but I'm thinking I'll probably have wireless in the apartment assuming I can get it working |
| 03:57.27 | pale_horse | we'll help you |
| 03:57.33 | revdjenk | didn't know we were that high, yet... on the kernels, I mean |
| 03:57.39 | adamant1988 | :) |
| 03:57.40 | pale_horse | uh huh |
| 03:57.55 | adamant1988 | Yeah, I hope edgy comes to fruition of what it promises |
| 03:58.16 | adamant1988 | easycodecinstallation and common customizations sound like real winners for the home user |
| 03:58.29 | revdjenk | I just wish that more hardware ppl would service linux!!! |
| 03:58.38 | adamant1988 | haha yeah... |
| 03:58.53 | adamant1988 | if I can get enough of a movement going around here maybe I can try to get ubuntu certified.... |
| 03:59.15 | adamant1988 | I don't know exactly what that requires of me, but I'd be willing to do it. |
| 03:59.28 | revdjenk | you will f ind out.. I am sure... |
| 03:59.36 | pale_horse | well tell them what's his name is an astronaut and got gamma radiated and gained uber powers |
| 03:59.43 | revdjenk | how supportive is your fiance? |
| 04:00.00 | revdjenk | hee hee pale_horse |
| 04:00.12 | pale_horse | well he WAS on the shuttle |
| 04:00.18 | revdjenk | ubermann! |
| 04:00.39 | adamant1988 | haha, My fiance doesn't reallly care what I do in computers |
| 04:00.47 | adamant1988 | She's not interested at all, I can't expect her to be |
| 04:00.55 | revdjenk | oh oh... .bad sign!! |
| 04:00.58 | pale_horse | mine is and does |
| 04:01.09 | adamant1988 | She doesn't understand is all |
| 04:01.15 | adamant1988 | and she doesn't care to be educated about it |
| 04:01.22 | pale_horse | http://www.ariel.com.au/jokes/A_Girl's_Guide_to_Geek_Guys.html |
| 04:01.26 | adamant1988 | Too bad I'm going into computer science =) |
| 04:01.32 | revdjenk | haa haa |
| 04:02.09 | revdjenk | where were all these tools when we were growing up, pale_horse ??!! |
| 04:02.09 | adamant1988 | I'll go off on a tangent about Ubuntu or linux or my computer... she happily pretends to follow and then at the end she is just like "*snicker* I love you" |
| 04:02.24 | revdjenk | what a gal! |
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| 04:02.35 | adamant1988 | Yeah, she's awesome. |
| 04:02.47 | revdjenk | hey Elive_user ! |
| 04:02.49 | adamant1988 | I wouldn't trade her for anything. I'm planning on getting her a system 76 computer. |
| 04:02.56 | adamant1988 | one of the little koala models. |
| 04:03.10 | revdjenk | what is system 76? a local company? |
| 04:03.12 | pale_horse | rev no one built them yet .. we are dinosaurs |
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| 04:04.00 | adamant1988 | system 76 is a company that sells ubuntu installed computers |
| 04:04.08 | revdjenk | ahh |
| 04:04.13 | adamant1988 | http://www.system76.com |
| 04:04.21 | revdjenk | I'll check that out... |
| 04:04.23 | revdjenk | thnx |
| 04:05.59 | adamant1988 | :) |
| 04:06.12 | adamant1988 | hrmmm... I'm reading some review on xandros's forums about it's product.. |
| 04:06.17 | adamant1988 | they're not all that positive... |
| 04:07.42 | revdjenk | yes, you said earlier, many reports about being slow... |
| 04:07.53 | adamant1988 | hrmmm |
| 04:08.10 | adamant1988 | I'm feeling more behind Ubuntu being the end-all-be all solution for the problem... |
| 04:08.19 | revdjenk | system 76.... prices aren't too bad, too bad they don't sell AMD |
| 04:08.48 | pale_horse | I just built a koala ... $1500 |
| 04:10.05 | pale_horse | Core Duo T2600 2.16GHz 2MB 667FSB (+$519.00) |
| 04:10.30 | adamant1988 | tiny box. |
| 04:10.38 | adamant1988 | Jenny (my fiance) doesn't need that power though |
| 04:10.46 | pale_horse | they DO sell amd |
| 04:10.55 | pale_horse | http://system76.com/index.php/cPath/2_9 |
| 04:13.04 | adamant1988 | yeah, they come with dapper preinstalled. |
| 04:16.37 | adamant1988 | I think ubuntu is my strongest choice right now |
| 04:20.11 | pale_horse | well give a class in irc .. then they can come to channels except #ubuntu and learn how to ask for help |
| 04:20.43 | adamant1988 | I'm thinking I might write some help documentation |
| 04:20.59 | adamant1988 | maybe even ask some other Ubuntu forum members for assistance. |
| 04:21.07 | pale_horse | yes with links to the wiki and forums |
| 04:21.49 | pale_horse | I'll bet there is printed / printable ubuntu docs if ya ask the foundation nicely |
| 04:22.10 | pale_horse | seems like what you want is what ubuntu was made for |
| 04:23.22 | adamant1988 | what's that? |
| 04:23.40 | pale_horse | impoverished areas etc |
| 04:24.13 | adamant1988 | I want it for my personal use too, and I can afford it |
| 04:24.21 | adamant1988 | Xandros I mean |
| 04:24.43 | adamant1988 | But I choose ubuntu because It's well... the google of linux. |
| 04:25.01 | pale_horse | well it's trying to be at any rate |
| 04:25.14 | adamant1988 | canonical is doing an excellent job |
| 04:25.23 | adamant1988 | but I have to wonder if they're pulling a reverse red-hat |
| 04:25.54 | pale_horse | nobody spends that money and doesn't have a plan to get it back |
| 04:26.09 | adamant1988 | Red hat started with a commercial distro and then went with a community based one to speed up development of the commercial. |
| 04:26.16 | pale_horse | yup |
| 04:26.43 | pale_horse | hell I hosted a redhat install fest and the original devs came |
| 04:26.58 | adamant1988 | lol awesome |
| 04:27.03 | pale_horse | back in the 90s |
| 04:27.14 | adamant1988 | But, I think canonical is doing the opposite |
| 04:27.20 | adamant1988 | creating the community distro first. |
| 04:29.01 | adamant1988 | regardless ubuntu is solid and good |
| 04:29.36 | pale_horse | red hat was free for a long time too |
| 04:30.12 | adamant1988 | well the ubuntu credo is that it will alwaysd be free |
| 04:30.40 | adamant1988 | that doesn't mean there won't be an option to pay for it |
| 04:30.53 | pale_horse | so it will come out with a new name or pay for suport |
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| 04:35.52 | adamant1988 | I think what it's going to be is a version targeted to the home user who doesn't have an internet connection |
| 04:36.13 | adamant1988 | naturally the user would have to pay for the extra codecs that they can't download |
| 04:36.40 | adamant1988 | but they'll not force it on anyone, they'll make an option aavailable like a codecs disk or something |
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| 06:51.30 | Elive_user | quien habla español? |
| 06:51.51 | Elive_user | hi |
| 06:52.05 | Elive_user | are you there |
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| 10:41.03 | Elive_user | Good Morning, All. |
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| 12:19.28 | elmo40 | morning |
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| 12:40.27 | pale_horse | hi wasynyt |
| 12:40.59 | wasynyt | good day pale_horse |
| 12:41.30 | pale_horse | how is Finland today ? |
| 12:41.38 | wasynyt | pretty nice.. warm |
| 12:41.40 | wasynyt | :D |
| 12:43.25 | pale_horse | same here . lovely morning |
| 12:45.43 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 13:06.23 | Elive_user95 | hi |
| 13:06.48 | Elive_user95 | any experiences adding elive cd as a dapper repo? |
| 13:08.53 | Elive_user95 | guess not... |
| 13:11.35 | Gwimac | jerk! |
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| 14:01.27 | elmo40 | who is a jerk? |
| 14:02.20 | LinuxNIT-II | <Elive_user95> any experiences adding elive cd as a dapper repo? |
| 14:02.22 | LinuxNIT-II | that guy |
| 14:05.01 | Gwimac | yeah, that guy |
| 14:12.02 | pales_rider | ohhh look who's up early |
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| 14:51.14 | Elive_user | Hi! |
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| 14:51.43 | Tuxer_21 | thanatermesis estas?? |
| 15:01.57 | roxville | http://blog.madduck.net/debian/2006.05.24-ubuntu-and-debian |
| 15:02.26 | Gwimac | tell me about it rox.... |
| 15:02.33 | roxville | lol |
| 15:02.34 | Gwimac | gime the breif |
| 15:02.41 | Gwimac | i didnt read it.....brief me |
| 15:02.49 | roxville | nah, read it... it's good reading |
| 15:03.07 | Gwimac | GRRR |
| 15:03.13 | roxville | lol! |
| 15:03.35 | roxville | well i'm not as good with metaphors and stuff asou are |
| 15:04.01 | roxville | *as you are |
| 15:04.47 | roxville | and analogies |
| 15:05.41 | Gwimac | its an ok read....i guess |
| 15:05.46 | Gwimac | im not big on ubuntu...... |
| 15:07.02 | roxville | but this is about WHY there is antagonism between them... |
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| 15:30.37 | Begasus | evening peeps |
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| 16:39.26 | LinuxNIT-II | welcome _fiti_ |
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| 17:32.09 | thybo | hey u allll |
| 17:32.09 | thybo | :) |
| 17:32.13 | thybo | how R u doiin:) |
| 17:33.11 | thybo | thanatermesis is back from vacation :d |
| 17:33.23 | thybo | im gonna go eat in a VN restaurant |
| 17:33.26 | thybo | c u all later on ;) |
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| 17:39.57 | pale_horse | thybo - order the Pho |
| 17:40.09 | thybo | order the what? |
| 17:40.13 | pale_horse | Pho |
| 17:40.32 | pale_horse | it's Vietnamese soup - your choice of meat |
| 17:40.33 | thybo | what is that? |
| 17:40.48 | pale_horse | nuc mam on the side for flavor |
| 17:41.01 | thybo | hmm |
| 17:41.05 | thybo | sounds great :p |
| 17:41.10 | thybo | i'll give it a try;.. |
| 17:41.16 | thybo | unless i go for the homar :p |
| 17:41.16 | pale_horse | nuc mam = fermented fish sauce |
| 17:41.20 | thybo | hehe |
| 17:41.31 | thybo | i don't know a lot about asian food |
| 17:41.36 | thybo | but i know nuc mam :) |
| 17:41.39 | thybo | pronounce |
| 17:41.43 | pale_horse | the coffee is also served sweet on ice |
| 17:41.47 | thybo | neeok m'am |
| 17:41.55 | pale_horse | yup |
| 17:42.02 | pale_horse | I spent 2+ years there |
| 17:42.36 | pale_horse | back to work fo rme |
| 17:42.43 | pale_horse | cutting porcelain tile |
| 17:45.05 | thybo | :):) |
| 17:45.15 | thybo | my sis lived there for 2 years or so |
| 17:45.18 | thybo | maybe 3 |
| 17:45.25 | thybo | a |
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| 18:33.50 | wasynyt | good evening everyone |
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| 18:35.17 | wasynyt | good evening kr1stof |
| 18:35.21 | kr1stof | hi @all |
| 18:39.44 | wasynyt | ho are you doing kr1stof |
| 18:39.50 | wasynyt | *how |
| 18:40.06 | kr1stof | Having a kind of dinner right now. ;-) |
| 18:40.13 | wasynyt | huh.. |
| 18:40.18 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:40.34 | adamant1988 | hey wasynyt :) |
| 18:40.47 | wasynyt | good evening adamant1988 |
| 18:41.07 | adamant1988 | guess what |
| 18:41.12 | wasynyt | ? |
| 18:41.15 | adamant1988 | I scored a fee system76 computer for my school :) |
| 18:41.18 | adamant1988 | free* |
| 18:41.24 | wasynyt | huh ? |
| 18:41.30 | wasynyt | what kind of comp is that |
| 18:41.56 | adamant1988 | http://www.system76.com |
| 18:42.10 | adamant1988 | They are giving my school a Koala mini value to use in the classroom |
| 18:42.45 | wasynyt | not bad.. it only that it has celeron in it :S |
| 18:42.54 | wasynyt | but free is free |
| 18:42.54 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:43.41 | wasynyt | so there is no computer problem for you anymore ? |
| 18:44.37 | roxville | doesn't that remind you of another small computer? :D |
| 18:44.44 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:44.47 | wasynyt | could be |
| 18:44.56 | wasynyt | but that other comp has more oomph |
| 18:45.06 | wasynyt | good evening roxville |
| 18:45.09 | adamant1988 | it's for the school not me |
| 18:45.26 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 18:45.32 | wasynyt | so not really a solution |
| 18:46.15 | roxville | damn... cheaper to buy a mac mini... |
| 18:46.26 | roxville | hi wasynyt :) |
| 18:46.31 | wasynyt | yep.... |
| 18:46.34 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:46.50 | adamant1988 | yeah but minis don't come with Ubuntu preinstalled |
| 18:46.52 | adamant1988 | :) |
| 18:47.02 | wasynyt | heh |
| 18:47.03 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:47.29 | adamant1988 | I downloaded an OCE edition of Xandros 3 |
| 18:47.39 | wasynyt | i hope ubuntu works well on those comps... and not some halfbaked thing |
| 18:47.42 | roxville | yeah adamant1988 you're right... how silly of me... |
| 18:47.44 | wasynyt | adamant1988, how is it |
| 18:47.48 | adamant1988 | the installer didn't even launch right =\ |
| 18:48.09 | adamant1988 | I hope that 4 has a better hardware detection because that's a very linux friendly laptop |
| 18:48.10 | roxville | and the difference in price would be justified by... what? |
| 18:48.26 | adamant1988 | idk, but it comes with 512 megs ram standard |
| 18:48.37 | roxville | so do mac mini |
| 18:48.49 | adamant1988 | oh and the fact that system76 is small and doesn't get those nice bulk discounts |
| 18:48.51 | roxville | and you can run win and lin on them too |
| 18:49.12 | wasynyt | hmm mac mini is quite small.... |
| 18:49.14 | wasynyt | :P |
| 18:49.16 | roxville | this is so weird... |
| 18:49.42 | wasynyt | what is.. aplles pricing ? |
| 18:49.46 | wasynyt | *apples |
| 18:49.54 | roxville | i mean, it looks like a great and cool little computer... but i do not understand HOW it can be MORE expensive than a mac mini... |
| 18:50.05 | wasynyt | heh |
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| 18:50.33 | roxville | http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/0.RSLID?mco=37CDA12F&nclm=Macmini |
| 18:50.57 | adamant1988 | either way |
| 18:51.11 | roxville | same price for the high-end mac mini |
| 18:51.22 | adamant1988 | it looks like my mind is made up for me, Ubuntu is the better option I guess. |
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| 18:51.26 | roxville | hello alcaloide ... welcome to #elive |
| 18:51.27 | wasynyt | good evening alcaloide |
| 18:51.43 | adamant1988 | Xandros failed on my very linux friendly laptop (miserabley) and Ubuntu has a lot going on for it. |
| 18:52.17 | wasynyt | heh |
| 18:52.33 | wasynyt | well xandros is not that up to date... i think |
| 18:52.44 | alcaloide | hi |
| 18:52.49 | alcaloide | :) |
| 18:53.03 | roxville | koala = Core Duo T2300 1.66GHz 2MB 667FSB |
| 18:53.25 | roxville | mac mini 1.66GHz Intel Core Duo processor |
| 18:53.28 | roxville | same price |
| 18:53.33 | wasynyt | yep |
| 18:53.34 | roxville | $799 |
| 18:54.21 | roxville | with the koala you get a 40GB drive... the mac mini comes with a 80GB drive... |
| 18:54.32 | adamant1988 | system76 is not apple lol. |
| 18:54.47 | adamant1988 | and it's FREE |
| 18:54.51 | roxville | adamant1988, that's right... |
| 18:55.08 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:55.10 | alcaloide | hi iam aving trouble with my wireless card ... i compile madwifi cose the chip set of my wireless card is atheros but i dont se ti on lsmod |
| 18:55.14 | roxville | free? $799... is not free... as far as i know... |
| 18:55.22 | adamant1988 | the one for my school is :) |
| 18:55.25 | wasynyt | he gets it for free |
| 18:55.26 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:55.29 | roxville | alcaloide, you need to talk to LinuxNIT |
| 18:55.45 | adamant1988 | yeah he's the one with the 1337 wifi script |
| 18:55.52 | pales_rider | nooo dont talk to him....lmao |
| 18:55.54 | roxville | that's awesome... and adamant1988 i was not opposed to you getting one... |
| 18:56.12 | pales_rider | just kidding |
| 18:56.12 | alcaloide | :( |
| 18:56.12 | alcaloide | lol |
| 18:56.20 | wasynyt | huh ? |
| 18:56.29 | adamant1988 | But yeah... another issue I found with xandros is that it seems to be not so much distributable. |
| 18:56.31 | wasynyt | good evening pales_rider |
| 18:56.32 | roxville | it was just so weird that they can do that... in principle it is MUCH more expensive to buy the koala than the mac mini... |
| 18:56.38 | pales_rider | hi wasynyt |
| 18:56.43 | wasynyt | how are you doing |
| 18:56.51 | adamant1988 | I'm trying to help promote linux, and if people here were not able to go to walmart and buy xandros how would they get it? |
| 18:56.54 | alcaloide | well is my first time with elive look realy cool i save a lot of time with this distro :) |
| 18:57.01 | pales_rider | fine thanks..trying to get through a friday afternoon. |
| 18:57.04 | adamant1988 | I can order Ubuntu disks for free. |
| 18:57.15 | roxville | alcaloide, LinuxNIT is elives wifi specialist... he has even written an app that has helped a lot of users |
| 18:57.17 | wasynyt | pales_rider, heh |
| 18:57.26 | roxville | even though he's not an elive developer |
| 18:57.33 | wasynyt | alcaloide, yeah.. so ask him about wifi |
| 18:57.35 | roxville | so the app is not included in elive |
| 18:57.36 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:57.52 | alcaloide | ok well if is not there were cant i fond the how to ? |
| 18:57.57 | alcaloide | i will do it my self |
| 18:58.07 | wasynyt | huh ? |
| 18:58.15 | wasynyt | he will tell you when he comes |
| 18:58.18 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:58.36 | alcaloide | if they is a how to buils an configure the wireless card some where ? |
| 18:58.42 | alcaloide | ok |
| 18:58.44 | roxville | alcaloide, yes... he's at woprk... check back later on... |
| 18:58.49 | roxville | he's a great guy |
| 18:58.56 | alcaloide | cool cool |
| 18:58.59 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:59.07 | roxville | unlike us... |
| 18:59.11 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 18:59.14 | roxville | lol |
| 18:59.17 | wasynyt | apt slap roxville |
| 18:59.19 | apt | ACTION slaps roxville, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 18:59.49 | wasynyt | :P |
| 19:00.30 | roxville | wow, the koala does NOT come with wireless installed, it's just an option! |
| 19:00.41 | wasynyt | yep.. i wondered that too |
| 19:00.44 | roxville | the mac mini has it and bluetooth already |
| 19:00.47 | wasynyt | heh |
| 19:00.59 | wasynyt | well i think apple has the volume advance |
| 19:01.01 | roxville | my god, what a rip-off this computer is... |
| 19:01.35 | adamant1988 | -_- |
| 19:01.42 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 19:01.55 | wasynyt | it is good that they give those to schools... |
| 19:02.05 | adamant1988 | well, carl can't win them all |
| 19:02.08 | wasynyt | because schools have limited resources... |
| 19:02.37 | adamant1988 | Carl is the owner of system76 he actually tries really hard, doesn't intentionally rip anyone off to my knowledge |
| 19:02.40 | roxville | adamant1988, listen... it is GREAT that you get it for free! |
| 19:02.52 | roxville | i am TRULY happy for you! |
| 19:03.15 | roxville | but when you compare them... it's scary... |
| 19:03.21 | wasynyt | yeah... the pricing is a little odd tho... |
| 19:03.30 | roxville | linux machines are supposed to be CHEAPER |
| 19:03.43 | alcaloide | ok i leave him a message |
| 19:03.46 | wasynyt | but i think it is because apple can sell a lot of those machines and that makes a differece |
| 19:03.53 | alcaloide | :) thanks guys |
| 19:04.06 | roxville | alcaloide, np :) |
| 19:05.12 | wasynyt | your are welcome |
| 19:06.06 | roxville | adamant1988, i aplologize if i stepped on any toes here... didn't mean to do that... |
| 19:06.33 | wasynyt | hmm it is just that mac's are supposed to be more expencive |
| 19:06.35 | wasynyt | :D |
| 19:06.46 | roxville | yes... |
| 19:06.54 | roxville | they aren't anymore... |
| 19:07.17 | wasynyt | so it seems |
| 19:07.35 | wasynyt | apple is pretty serious about home market these days |
| 19:07.48 | adamant1988 | they're bringing down prices a lot. |
| 19:08.45 | wasynyt | yep.. and i think it is only a good thing.. |
| 19:08.54 | wasynyt | i like the os competition |
| 19:09.00 | wasynyt | everyone will benefit |
| 19:09.20 | adamant1988 | I am thinking that 2009 will be a big year for linux |
| 19:10.11 | wasynyt | hmm could be |
| 19:10.22 | adamant1988 | All the signs point to a liberal congress and president |
| 19:10.30 | wasynyt | really |
| 19:10.31 | wasynyt | ? |
| 19:10.31 | adamant1988 | that means BIG changes 9/10 times. |
| 19:10.38 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 19:10.48 | adamant1988 | Yeah... it's a cycle. Whenever there is economic trouble a liberal president is elected |
| 19:10.50 | wasynyt | are people that fed up with conservatives |
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| 19:11.00 | wasynyt | rally ? |
| 19:11.01 | roxville | IF they are able to UNDO what the current prez has caused... |
| 19:11.06 | wasynyt | good evening sinplomo |
| 19:11.20 | wasynyt | hmm that can be hard |
| 19:11.20 | adamant1988 | If both congress and the president are liberal majority, they can undo a lot |
| 19:11.30 | wasynyt | that is true |
| 19:11.33 | adamant1988 | Starting with DRM and DMCA (in the tech world) |
| 19:11.48 | roxville | yeah... maybe... |
| 19:11.57 | adamant1988 | I think it'll happen. |
| 19:12.00 | sinplomo | hi * |
| 19:12.15 | roxville | but they are trying hard now, to make somethings into LAWS... and those are harder to undo |
| 19:12.17 | wasynyt | i hope it will happen |
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| 19:13.41 | adamant1988 | roxville they're not hard to CHANGE though. |
| 19:13.57 | adamant1988 | revisions and such on laws are made ALL the time. |
| 19:14.12 | adamant1988 | it's a lot of hassle to remove a law, but not to make it so insignificant that it doesn't matter. |
| 19:14.47 | wasynyt | hmm that sounds odd way to make laws |
| 19:14.52 | adamant1988 | it is. |
| 19:15.14 | adamant1988 | But there are laws like that all around either they change it or they just pass a new one that says something is legal |
| 19:15.18 | wasynyt | i think that your law would need some "cleaning" |
| 19:15.30 | adamant1988 | and when a disagreeement between the laws comes up the court rules in favor of the new one. |
| 19:15.52 | adamant1988 | there are laws where I live that say it is illegal to spit on the sidewalk. |
| 19:16.07 | wasynyt | really |
| 19:16.10 | adamant1988 | yeah |
| 19:16.11 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 19:16.20 | adamant1988 | They're really old laws, but they're still there. |
| 19:16.57 | adamant1988 | it's also legal to take your wife to the court-house steps and beat her with a stick no thicker than your thumb, as long as you can prove that you've been to church the sunday before that. |
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| 19:17.35 | adamant1988 | but something tells me that if you tried that you would be arrested on the spot for assault (the old law, new law conflict) |
| 19:17.58 | wasynyt | huh.. those make no sense to me... |
| 19:17.59 | wasynyt | :S |
| 19:18.11 | adamant1988 | they're old laws that are outdated |
| 19:18.19 | adamant1988 | people only pay attention to the recent ones |
| 19:18.22 | wasynyt | yep but are they not removed |
| 19:18.47 | adamant1988 | so if a law makes DMCA violations legal, then no court will rule in favor of the DMCA |
| 19:20.16 | wasynyt | hmm that is jus stupid why to make laws that will be overruled by next goverment |
| 19:20.19 | wasynyt | :S |
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| 19:20.32 | wasynyt | good evening salah |
| 19:20.46 | salah | good evening wasynyt |
| 19:20.53 | salah | how are you today? |
| 19:21.16 | wasynyt | i am doing fine |
| 19:21.20 | wasynyt | how are you ? |
| 19:21.47 | salah | just fine, programming some perl now :) |
| 19:22.04 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 19:22.05 | wasynyt | :D |
| 19:25.37 | roxville | sounds like fun! |
| 19:26.03 | roxville | det syns greit! |
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| 19:27.03 | wasynyt | heh |
| 19:29.44 | alcaloide | hey no one ave wifi here ? |
| 19:29.46 | salah | roxville, where you from? |
| 19:30.07 | wasynyt | LinuxNIT LinuxNIT-II you here alive ? |
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| 19:31.23 | MetaPhaze_laptop | hey guys |
| 19:31.29 | nefarioushex | lo |
| 19:31.33 | MetaPhaze_laptop | nefarioushex, wants to try e17 |
| 19:31.45 | MetaPhaze_laptop | should he? |
| 19:31.51 | MetaPhaze_laptop | and should he use elive? |
| 19:31.53 | MetaPhaze_laptop | :D |
| 19:31.59 | wasynyt | good evening nefarioushex |
| 19:32.12 | wasynyt | MetaPhaze_laptop, what ? |
| 19:32.13 | wasynyt | :S |
| 19:32.33 | wasynyt | heh elive is the best e17 distro out there.. |
| 19:32.35 | MetaPhaze_laptop | wasynyt, thought i would bring him here... fill him in :P |
| 19:32.41 | wasynyt | but that is only my opinion |
| 19:32.48 | wasynyt | the only thing is this |
| 19:32.51 | wasynyt | apt e17 |
| 19:32.58 | apt | i heard e17 is IN DEVELOPEMENT, and this is the same to NOT FINISHED, some parts works, and some parts not works, e17 not is prepaired for the end-user, if you continue like to use it is your problem, if you search a stable thing, use e16 |
| 19:33.03 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 19:33.22 | roxville | <salah> roxville, where you from? <-- from sweden... but live in charleston, south carolina... in the u.s. |
| 19:33.29 | wasynyt | so try a head it is a lievcd so it wont even change anything |
| 19:33.40 | wasynyt | just boot from cd and it runs nicely |
| 19:33.42 | wasynyt | :D |
| 19:33.46 | salah | roxville, okey |
| 19:34.02 | wasynyt | if any problems come hear and people will help you |
| 19:34.21 | MetaPhaze_laptop | nefarioushex, get elive and try it then you won't break your gentoo box |
| 19:34.59 | nefarious|afk | sry bit of an emergency |
| 19:35.05 | wasynyt | k |
| 19:35.13 | wasynyt | come back when you have tine |
| 19:35.13 | wasynyt | :D |
| 19:35.16 | wasynyt | *time |
| 19:43.43 | adamant1988 | ttyl guys |
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| 19:53.00 | wasynyt | good evening primate |
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| 20:16.17 | nefarioushex | So. |
| 20:16.25 | nefarioushex | Where do i get this livecd image then, eh? |
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| 20:36.09 | wasynyt | wait a sec |
| 20:36.48 | wasynyt | http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/elive/development/ |
| 20:36.53 | wasynyt | try this one |
| 20:40.06 | wasynyt | works ? |
| 20:56.54 | Thanatermesis | if anybody looks any problem downloading from ibiblio... please tell me |
| 20:57.05 | Thanatermesis | im looking for switch rsync server to ibiblio |
| 21:01.33 | nefarioushex | Thanks, it's downloading. |
| 21:01.35 | nefarioushex | :> |
| 21:02.07 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:03.31 | Thanatermesis | verify the md5 before to burn it ;) |
| 21:03.42 | Thanatermesis | downloading 0.5.. of course i hope :) |
| 21:03.49 | Gwimac | ehh, ibiblio is ibiblio.... |
| 21:03.54 | Gwimac | its good.... |
| 21:03.56 | wasynyt | huh ? |
| 21:04.03 | wasynyt | hasworked for me |
| 21:04.03 | Thanatermesis | Gwimac, aparently yes... but the speed looks strange |
| 21:04.04 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:04.14 | Thanatermesis | well, i think to its normal to "limit" a little the speed... |
| 21:04.31 | Gwimac | Thanatermesis, yes, thats what im saying....ibiblio is ibiblio :P.....maybe not always teh best speed...but i always get a good DL |
| 21:04.36 | Thanatermesis | it turns between 35 and 65 kb /s |
| 21:04.42 | Thanatermesis | changing all the time |
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| 21:04.49 | Gwimac | uh-huh |
| 21:05.01 | Gwimac | but ive never got a bad md5 from ibiblio...EVER |
| 21:05.17 | Thanatermesis | well.. yes, you are true... ibiblio aparently is a good server... all ppl speaks good about it |
| 21:06.10 | Thanatermesis | apt, wake nomed |
| 21:06.11 | apt | nomed: GOOD MORNING!!! |
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| 21:19.25 | Elive_user3 | hey |
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| 22:22.57 | Bouba | hi all! hi wasy |
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| 22:24.32 | GPLGeek | This is the best assignment I've ever gotten |
| 22:25.34 | GPLGeek | "Dorris Lamey, the program director at your company, has died. It is your job to audit her, and public files and records and replace her name with the chairman's name (Dan Hobkins). |
| 22:25.51 | GPLGeek | That's a funny assignment |
| 22:26.29 | GPLGeek | So I have to go through word, ppt, source, rtf, and any other file format and make it look like she never existed |
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| 22:30.50 | GPLGeek | I'm thinking this teacher has had actual business experiance. |
| 22:31.58 | nefarioushex | What forensic kit you using? |
| 22:32.06 | nefarioushex | Commercial, or GPL? |
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| 22:32.54 | bentejuy | hi all! |
| 22:32.57 | nefarioushex | You training, or in school or? |
| 22:33.00 | nefarioushex | Hey bentejuy |
| 22:33.48 | wasynyt | good night everyone |
| 22:34.10 | bentejuy | good night wasynyt |
| 22:34.16 | Bouba | night;) |
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