| 00:00.59 | Kitara | do that weird sound thing when your back |
| 00:01.02 | Kitara | :D |
| 00:09.10 | LinuxNIT | Kitara, |
| 00:09.18 | Kitara | hello |
| 00:09.29 | LinuxNIT | that sound thing ? ;) |
| 00:09.41 | Kitara | :D proeang :D |
| 00:09.47 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 00:09.48 | pale_horse | nick bump |
| 00:10.03 | LinuxNIT | Kitara, i plays a sound when some one says you name ;) |
| 00:10.15 | LinuxNIT | howdy pales_rider pale_horse hows the vacation? |
| 00:10.24 | pale_horse | too short :( |
| 00:10.32 | Kitara | LinuxNIT, did i play a sound? |
| 00:10.37 | LinuxNIT | Kitara, yes |
| 00:10.39 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 00:10.43 | Kitara | :D cool |
| 00:11.19 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 00:12.01 | pale_horse | LinuxNIT, she's sleeping now, we both just completed a 12 hour drive |
| 00:12.05 | Kitara | so i got an error writing cd, says sometihing about probably buffer underrun and sometinhg aabout not having root rights |
| 00:12.08 | LinuxNIT | oh wow |
| 00:12.23 | LinuxNIT | odd |
| 00:12.30 | pale_horse | ohio to NJ / MO |
| 00:12.30 | LinuxNIT | try it as root |
| 00:12.42 | LinuxNIT | well did yall have fun |
| 00:12.43 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 00:13.13 | pale_horse | sure did buddy |
| 00:13.15 | LinuxNIT | Kitara, try it as root |
| 00:13.27 | LinuxNIT | pale_horse, good to hear |
| 00:13.34 | pale_horse | was most nice |
| 00:13.41 | Kitara | ok i'll do |
| 00:13.44 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 00:14.37 | Kitara | i'm wondering: what's the average age here if i may be so bold |
| 00:14.50 | LinuxNIT | no idea |
| 00:14.54 | LinuxNIT | we never took a poll |
| 00:14.56 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 00:15.10 | Kitara | :D |
| 00:15.29 | LinuxNIT | im 21 some are like 17 some in their 30's 40's |
| 00:15.33 | LinuxNIT | some older ;) |
| 00:15.47 | Kitara | I'm 20 |
| 00:16.04 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 00:16.40 | Kitara | whel depends if the term cool is equal to getting more responsabillity |
| 00:16.56 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 00:17.15 | Kitara | :P |
| 00:17.27 | LinuxNIT | but dosent more responsability mean more money? |
| 00:17.53 | Kitara | that's the part I'm not bothered with |
| 00:17.58 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 00:18.14 | Kitara | it's true that's why i opted for a job outside the country |
| 00:18.18 | LinuxNIT | you have to look at the bright side(the sunny side of life) |
| 00:18.58 | Kitara | well let's have a look at my life so far: made allot of money, wasted allot of money. i would say that deserves a star |
| 00:19.36 | Kitara | :D qoute |
| 00:19.48 | Kitara | * quote |
| 00:19.56 | pale_horse | made it, spent it and now happily retired |
| 00:20.02 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 00:20.03 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 00:20.48 | Kitara | i'm still in that phase of getting a descent job as an IT Consultant |
| 00:21.04 | LinuxNIT | well im out for now |
| 00:21.12 | LinuxNIT | im sure pale_horse can help you if you need more |
| 00:21.17 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 00:21.28 | pale_horse | thanks, I'll surely try |
| 00:21.39 | pale_horse | but LinuxNIT is the man |
| 00:22.12 | Kitara | :D thx for the help and nice evening LinuxNet |
| 00:22.20 | Kitara | LinuxNIT (sorry) |
| 00:23.01 | pale_horse | Kitara, did you try burning as root ? |
| 00:23.13 | Kitara | well, my 0.5 burn went sucessfully so i guess i'l be going for an install, might take a while before i'm back. |
| 00:23.33 | Kitara | pale_horse, yep the second try i did. does it need root rights? |
| 00:23.34 | pale_horse | ok .. everyone here will be happy to help |
| 00:24.02 | pale_horse | seems it does on your setup for now .. we can fix that later |
| 00:24.47 | Kitara | to give you a little status update, i am trying to get my atheros wireless working. but compiling failed so we LinuxNIT thought that the best way to do it was install 0.5 because it came with the madwifi-ng drivers |
| 00:24.49 | pale_horse | seems you may need to add yourself to some system groups .. we can do that later |
| 00:25.12 | pale_horse | his guidance I'd trust |
| 00:25.43 | pale_horse | he is a sharp guy |
| 00:25.57 | Kitara | ok, pale_horse, mayb see you in 20 minutes. if not i'm off to bed, it's 02.24 AM here |
| 00:26.09 | Kitara | :D |
| 00:26.10 | pale_horse | oh my |
| 00:26.12 | pale_horse | OK |
| 00:26.25 | Kitara | but i'm gonna try to install 0.5 anyway now |
| 00:26.32 | pale_horse | I should be here .. I was driving 12 hours today and I'm kinda pooped too |
| 00:26.46 | Kitara | by the way, what was the reccomended swap partition size again (RAM * 2 ) ? |
| 00:26.56 | pale_horse | I use ram*2 |
| 00:27.04 | pale_horse | how much ram you have ? |
| 00:27.13 | Kitara | laptop has 1 gigs so i should take 2 gigs then? |
| 00:27.42 | pale_horse | nawww .. 512 is more than enough unless you go nuts with big apps like OO and gimp |
| 00:28.14 | pale_horse | I have 1 g also |
| 00:28.17 | pale_horse | I never swap |
| 00:28.20 | Kitara | well does it hurt? i have enough disk space and i use an external hdd for storage |
| 00:28.38 | pale_horse | no it don't hurt at all |
| 00:29.05 | pale_horse | but with 1g 512 - 1g is waaaay enough |
| 00:29.37 | Kitara | the more the better or is it like "don't overdue it or the system goes nuts" i have 1 gig of ram so i'll take 2 then? |
| 00:30.02 | Kitara | bwa okay |
| 00:30.08 | Kitara | i take a little less then |
| 00:30.09 | pale_horse | you can .. and it wont hurt a thing |
| 00:30.45 | pale_horse | I have 2x ram .. never used it |
| 00:31.09 | Kitara | by the way i know what you mean by a twelf hour drive. I only have to drive 3 and a half hours to work and even that's long |
| 00:32.11 | pale_horse | yeah .. but mine was mostly highway except the last 60 miles to where I live in the wods |
| 00:32.23 | pale_horse | only stopped for fuel |
| 00:32.31 | Kitara | well mine is 90 percent highway |
| 00:32.43 | Kitara | 3 long highways |
| 00:32.51 | Kitara | gets boring from time to time |
| 00:32.57 | pale_horse | very |
| 00:33.10 | Kitara | you been on a vacation? |
| 00:33.30 | pale_horse | yes, always too short |
| 00:34.09 | Kitara | :d i get it, i'm currently on a two week vacation (at home though :D) |
| 00:34.55 | pale_horse | I was to be gone 7 days but had to cut it short, I'm building the house I live in |
| 00:36.32 | Kitara | i'll have to do some better saving for that :D anyway thx for the help, maybe talk to you again |
| 00:36.36 | Kitara | gonna try now |
| 00:36.49 | pale_horse | you bet |
| 00:36.52 | pale_horse | good luck |
| 00:36.56 | Kitara | see you |
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| 01:02.12 | Kitara | pale_horse, i am now in the live version 0.5 (running livecd) |
| 01:02.35 | pale_horse | :) |
| 01:02.48 | pale_horse | you don't have to get up tomorrow, right ? |
| 01:03.10 | pale_horse | how is the live cd with your hardware ? |
| 01:03.43 | Kitara | i have to get up at 8.30 tomorrow :D |
| 01:03.55 | Kitara | it's now 03.02 |
| 01:04.01 | Kitara | perfect |
| 01:04.01 | pale_horse | bleh .. I am too old for that nonsense |
| 01:04.07 | Kitara | everything is recognised |
| 01:04.11 | pale_horse | super |
| 01:04.12 | Kitara | perfect perfect |
| 01:04.19 | pale_horse | w00t |
| 01:04.38 | Kitara | what was the command to scan for hotspots |
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| 01:06.19 | Kitara | pale_horse, what was the command to scan for access points? |
| 01:06.58 | pale_horse | that I do not know .. I can't get my broadcom wlan card working |
| 01:07.19 | Kitara | darn LinuxNIT told me a while back but i can't remember :D |
| 01:07.32 | Kitara | and i did not take the liberty to write it down |
| 01:07.51 | pale_horse | wait I will scroll back .. I have a big buffer |
| 01:09.18 | pale_horse | <LinuxNIT-II> iwlist scan |
| 01:09.42 | pale_horse | that's the one you wanted ? |
| 01:09.43 | LinuxNIT | it working? |
| 01:09.50 | pale_horse | oh there you are |
| 01:09.54 | pale_horse | :) |
| 01:10.00 | LinuxNIT | i heard my name called |
| 01:10.15 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 01:11.49 | pale_horse | I scrolled up and found what you told Kitara |
| 01:11.54 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 01:12.04 | LinuxNIT | if only Kitara was still here |
| 01:12.08 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 01:12.08 | Kitara | yes |
| 01:12.11 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 01:12.12 | Kitara | i'm still here sorry |
| 01:12.13 | pale_horse | LOL |
| 01:12.16 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 01:12.22 | LinuxNIT | i was just kidding anyway |
| 01:12.29 | LinuxNIT | so is wireless working? |
| 01:13.07 | Kitara | yes he says there is a ath0 but the network is down he says |
| 01:13.16 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 01:13.22 | LinuxNIT | he is right |
| 01:13.23 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 01:13.33 | LinuxNIT | you are still on the cable ;) |
| 01:13.48 | LinuxNIT | ethernet cable |
| 01:14.15 | Kitara | so i need to disconnect |
| 01:14.35 | Kitara | but it also says interface does not support scanning |
| 01:14.54 | LinuxNIT | paste all the ouput in elive-flood |
| 01:15.09 | LinuxNIT | pale_horse, lmfao |
| 01:15.25 | Kitara | but there's a dubble point after that so i guess that's due to network cable connected... |
| 01:15.34 | Kitara | root@elive[/home/eliveuser]# iwlist scan |
| 01:15.34 | Kitara | lo Interface doesn't support scanning. |
| 01:15.34 | Kitara | eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning. |
| 01:15.34 | Kitara | ath0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down |
| 01:15.34 | Kitara | eth1 Interface doesn't support scanning. |
| 01:15.35 | Kitara | sit0 Interface doesn't support scanning. |
| 01:15.38 | LinuxNIT | not here |
| 01:15.39 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 01:15.41 | LinuxNIT | elive-flood |
| 01:15.43 | LinuxNIT | but too late |
| 01:15.44 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.49 | pale_horse | good night y'all .. I am whipped |
| 01:15.52 | LinuxNIT | ok do this |
| 01:15.55 | Kitara | goodnight |
| 01:15.56 | LinuxNIT | ifconfig ath0 up |
| 01:15.59 | LinuxNIT | night pale_horse |
| 01:16.07 | LinuxNIT | then iwlist ath0 scan |
| 01:16.49 | Kitara | what is the "up" option in ifconfig? |
| 01:16.55 | Kitara | it was doing something |
| 01:17.08 | Kitara | but returns this: ath0 Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 01:17.08 | LinuxNIT | it brings up the network interface |
| 01:17.14 | LinuxNIT | grrr |
| 01:17.32 | Kitara | but i am on livecd if that could have something todo with it |
| 01:18.04 | LinuxNIT | nah its the madwifi stuff... for some reason i dunno why it will say that sometimes |
| 01:18.09 | LinuxNIT | gennerally works fine |
| 01:18.17 | LinuxNIT | try again |
| 01:18.27 | Kitara | but madwifi is that made for my model of atheros ar5005G ? |
| 01:18.42 | LinuxNIT | yes but its not perfect ;) |
| 01:18.44 | LinuxNIT | nothing is |
| 01:18.54 | Kitara | i can live with that |
| 01:19.01 | Kitara | says it again |
| 01:19.05 | LinuxNIT | k do this |
| 01:19.10 | LinuxNIT | modprobe -r ath_pci |
| 01:19.14 | LinuxNIT | modprobe ath_pci |
| 01:19.21 | LinuxNIT | iwlist ath0 scan |
| 01:20.45 | Kitara | well first it said the network down thing again, and i did the ifconfig thing and then the iwlist thing again but it still gives me this error |
| 01:21.00 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 01:21.08 | LinuxNIT | :( |
| 01:21.18 | LinuxNIT | did you install elive yet? |
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| 01:21.49 | Kitara | no livecd |
| 01:22.11 | LinuxNIT | try it installed i guess |
| 01:22.47 | Kitara | well i checked in Synaptic and saw that the ng package is not installed |
| 01:23.27 | Kitara | well i looked in synaptic and saw that the madwifi-ng thing is not installed |
| 01:23.37 | Kitara | goddamnit double post |
| 01:23.39 | LinuxNIT | what madwifi packages are installed? |
| 01:24.34 | Kitara | madwifi-2.6.15-1 and madwifi-utils |
| 01:25.05 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 01:25.14 | LinuxNIT | madwifi=2.6.15-1 is the driver |
| 01:25.18 | LinuxNIT | there are two |
| 01:25.28 | LinuxNIT | one newer one older |
| 01:25.38 | LinuxNIT | ng is the new one but its a pain in the ass to set up |
| 01:25.43 | LinuxNIT | we can try it if you want to |
| 01:25.53 | Kitara | first install elive :D |
| 01:25.59 | LinuxNIT | sounds good |
| 01:26.03 | Kitara | before hitting the chicken ;-) |
| 01:27.01 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 01:28.00 | Kitara | is reiserfs really a good filesystem because we learned at school it is crap and we should use EXT4 instead |
| 01:28.01 | LinuxNIT | Kitara, is that madwifi-2.6.15-1 or madwifi-ng-2.6.15? |
| 01:28.15 | Kitara | -1 positive |
| 01:28.30 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 01:29.02 | Kitara | the installer seems to take less time in 0.5 (hoeray) |
| 01:29.24 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 01:29.39 | LinuxNIT | Kitara, i just spoke with the dev for elive |
| 01:29.50 | Kitara | by the way everything worked out of the box on 0.5 |
| 01:29.53 | Kitara | yes? |
| 01:30.08 | LinuxNIT | he said that 0.5 beta2 (you are on beta1 right now) has the latest cvs version of madwifi |
| 01:30.12 | LinuxNIT | that might fix it |
| 01:30.32 | Kitara | what is cvs? comma-seperated-value? :D |
| 01:30.36 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 01:30.45 | LinuxNIT | concurrent version system |
| 01:30.48 | LinuxNIT | i think |
| 01:31.04 | LinuxNIT | its where they keep the latest source of programs/libs/drivers etc |
| 01:31.43 | Kitara | mmmm, and is this iso downloadable, because i already wasted 1.7 gigs of elive iso's (not wasted of coarse, you know what i mean) |
| 01:32.34 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 01:33.06 | LinuxNIT | well it thinkn that when beta2 comes out youll beable to update to the newer driver but im not sure |
| 01:33.22 | LinuxNIT | it thinkin = i think |
| 01:33.24 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 01:34.02 | Kitara | what is a framebuffer? do they mean graphically? |
| 01:34.09 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 01:34.17 | LinuxNIT | if it wants one let it have one |
| 01:34.29 | LinuxNIT | the boot looks nicer ;) |
| 01:34.44 | Kitara | last time i picked ok so shall i do now |
| 01:34.49 | LinuxNIT | sure |
| 01:35.13 | Kitara | ok gonna reboot, see ya in few minutes. |
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| 01:39.08 | Kitara | hello |
| 01:39.15 | LinuxNIT | hello |
| 01:39.17 | LinuxNIT | does it work now? |
| 01:39.23 | Kitara | just checking |
| 01:40.22 | Kitara | no but there is one thing i must say |
| 01:40.48 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 01:40.59 | Kitara | in windows i used to press the wifi button and then the circuitery was turned on to use wifi, and then the led was lit. but now it isn't |
| 01:41.16 | Kitara | when i press the button |
| 01:41.22 | Kitara | it's a hardware button |
| 01:41.51 | LinuxNIT | wifi button? |
| 01:41.53 | Kitara | but before i could use it in windows i needed to install powermanager from my laptop brands driver cd |
| 01:42.17 | Kitara | yess a hardware button to turn on the wifi circuit |
| 01:42.22 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 01:42.25 | LinuxNIT | interesting |
| 01:42.30 | LinuxNIT | well is it on? |
| 01:42.32 | LinuxNIT | :D |
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| 01:43.03 | Kitara | :D nope it is not, and i can't turn it on either, i figured it was just something software matic, but it might be that i am wrong |
| 01:43.36 | LinuxNIT | probably is |
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| 01:43.52 | Kitara | i can press the button as many times as i want to, the led won't lit |
| 01:43.57 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 01:44.11 | LinuxNIT | but iwconfig sees the card right? |
| 01:44.16 | Kitara | yep |
| 01:44.30 | LinuxNIT | and you know the essid and wep key of the network right/ |
| 01:44.31 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 01:44.54 | LinuxNIT | essid = Les Wireless if i remember right |
| 01:44.58 | Kitara | well i was looking for the wep key the other day, but couldn't find it, hold on a sec, let me search again |
| 01:45.06 | i3dmaster | window move down |
| 01:45.20 | LinuxNIT | i3dmaster, ? |
| 01:45.43 | i3dmaster | LinuxNIT: ya, sorry I was trying to move my window around |
| 01:45.50 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 01:45.51 | Kitara | how do i put myself in the admin group? |
| 01:45.55 | Kitara | chmod? |
| 01:45.57 | LinuxNIT | you dont |
| 01:46.11 | LinuxNIT | why do you want to be in the admin group |
| 01:46.22 | Kitara | yeah but else i get a access denied in the file manager to access my ntfs partitio |
| 01:46.28 | i3dmaster | Kitara: better sudo? |
| 01:46.37 | LinuxNIT | ah |
| 01:46.49 | i3dmaster | Kitara: fuse problem |
| 01:46.50 | Kitara | yeah , strange though, i didn't used to do that in 0.4.2 |
| 01:46.51 | LinuxNIT | two ways to fix that |
| 01:46.57 | i3dmaster | Kitara: add yourself to fuse group |
| 01:47.40 | Kitara | i'll try if i figure out how :D (sorry: noob) |
| 01:47.49 | Kitara | i learned this at school but forgot it |
| 01:48.00 | i3dmaster | Kitara: take a look usermod command |
| 01:48.04 | LinuxNIT | i3dmaster, adding you to admin is not good |
| 01:48.15 | LinuxNIT | we can let you access it in a different way |
| 01:48.25 | i3dmaster | LinuxNIT: not admin, just fuse group. that's the official way |
| 01:48.54 | LinuxNIT | i3dmaster, ok i dont know about fuse :D.... and i meant to direct that last coment to Kitara |
| 01:49.09 | LinuxNIT | Kitara, adding you to admin is not good |
| 01:49.23 | Kitara | okay, any ideas? |
| 01:49.31 | i3dmaster | LinuxNIT: ya agree. don't add normal user to admin |
| 01:49.32 | LinuxNIT | open a terminal |
| 01:49.36 | LinuxNIT | su |
| 01:49.38 | Kitara | sudo? |
| 01:49.41 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 01:49.42 | LinuxNIT | su |
| 01:49.49 | Kitara | xfe and then browse |
| 01:49.52 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 01:49.56 | LinuxNIT | well you can |
| 01:49.58 | LinuxNIT | that will work |
| 01:49.59 | Kitara | :D |
| 01:50.10 | LinuxNIT | but i was going to make it so you can browse as normal user |
| 01:50.12 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 01:50.18 | LinuxNIT | if you want |
| 01:50.28 | Kitara | yeah sure that would be great |
| 01:50.35 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 01:50.35 | LinuxNIT | su |
| 01:50.40 | LinuxNIT | scite /etc/fstab |
| 01:51.17 | Kitara | yessss |
| 01:51.19 | LinuxNIT | what partition are you haveing trouble accessing? |
| 01:51.35 | Kitara | hda1,3,5 |
| 01:51.39 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 01:51.44 | LinuxNIT | paste me those 3 lines |
| 01:51.47 | LinuxNIT | just those 3 |
| 01:51.57 | Kitara | /dev/hda1/mnt/hda1auto defaults,auto 0 2 |
| 01:51.58 | Kitara | /dev/hda3/mnt/hda3auto defaults,auto 0 2 |
| 01:51.58 | Kitara | /dev/hda5/mnt/hda5auto defaults,auto 0 2 |
| 01:52.36 | LinuxNIT | is this a multiuser pc? |
| 01:52.39 | LinuxNIT | or just you? |
| 01:52.48 | Kitara | me |
| 01:52.50 | LinuxNIT | /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 auto defaults,auto,uid=1000 0 2 |
| 01:52.51 | Kitara | only |
| 01:52.58 | LinuxNIT | see what i changed? |
| 01:53.03 | LinuxNIT | do that to all 3 |
| 01:53.14 | Kitara | yes, is my userid 1000 |
| 01:53.19 | LinuxNIT | yes it is |
| 01:53.38 | LinuxNIT | in debian/elive the first user is always 1000 |
| 01:53.52 | Kitara | should i restart something? |
| 01:53.52 | LinuxNIT | some distros start at like 100 i think |
| 01:53.56 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 01:54.05 | LinuxNIT | just unmount the partitions and remount them |
| 01:54.15 | LinuxNIT | umount /mnt/hda1 |
| 01:54.19 | LinuxNIT | mount /mnt/hda1 |
| 01:54.24 | LinuxNIT | do that for each one |
| 01:54.28 | LinuxNIT | that should fix it |
| 01:55.10 | LinuxNIT | worked on mine :D |
| 01:55.49 | Kitara | yep now its working |
| 01:56.11 | LinuxNIT | Kitara, ask me if you have questions about things i tell you to do |
| 01:56.30 | i3dmaster | LinuxNIT: this is just for readonly mount ntfs. I was referring to ntfs r/w type of mount which uses fuse kernel module |
| 01:56.44 | LinuxNIT | ah |
| 01:56.47 | i3dmaster | LinuxNIT: but yes. it will work |
| 01:56.55 | LinuxNIT | isnt r/w still sketchy? |
| 01:56.58 | LinuxNIT | on ntfs |
| 01:57.06 | Kitara | actually i want to use my external hdd as w/r ntfs |
| 01:57.28 | LinuxNIT | i meant write |
| 01:57.32 | LinuxNIT | not read and write |
| 01:57.33 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 01:57.56 | LinuxNIT | Kitara, unless things have changed you should not write to ntfs from linux |
| 01:58.25 | Kitara | mmmm, but i need a filesystem accessable by both windows and linux that can handle 160 GB |
| 01:58.37 | LinuxNIT | ext3 |
| 01:58.49 | LinuxNIT | you can get drivers for ext3 for windows |
| 01:59.10 | LinuxNIT | although im not sure where.... probably sourceforge |
| 01:59.13 | Kitara | yeah but then it's not plug and play right? mmm see, and in some places you do not have administrative rights when hooking up the drive |
| 01:59.38 | LinuxNIT | plug and play where? |
| 01:59.39 | i3dmaster | sorry.. ya fuse is away to mount it r/w otherwise you can't write to ntfs.. but yes, it is still ricky.. |
| 01:59.41 | LinuxNIT | in windows? |
| 02:00.27 | Kitara | and we all know FAT won't work, the disk is too big for that. yess plug and play in windows, but i just meant dat you must be able to access the drive without the need of installing aditional drivers |
| 02:00.52 | LinuxNIT | well i dunno then |
| 02:00.57 | Kitara | and the only filesystems windows is currently supporting is that FAT and NTFS thing (they sould open up their minds) |
| 02:01.06 | i3dmaster | FAT32 can be larger than 160GB isn't it |
| 02:01.13 | Kitara | yeah? |
| 02:01.23 | LinuxNIT | cause writing to ntfs in linux is still dangerous, |
| 02:01.32 | Kitara | ow yeah but then the files can't be larger then 2 gigs? |
| 02:01.35 | LinuxNIT | i think it can handle that large of a system |
| 02:01.49 | LinuxNIT | but it is VERY VERY ineffecient |
| 02:01.53 | i3dmaster | Kitara: single file can't be 4G |
| 02:01.58 | i3dmaster | 2^32 |
| 02:02.29 | Kitara | right, i should reconsider |
| 02:03.06 | i3dmaster | fuse can mount ntfs as r/w but I remember there are still some limitations... iirc, only write to an existing file... |
| 02:03.07 | Kitara | but that's not the most important. the most important is the wifi |
| 02:03.27 | LinuxNIT | wifi will work you just cant scan |
| 02:03.32 | LinuxNIT | it will still connect you |
| 02:03.45 | LinuxNIT | if you know the essid and wep key |
| 02:04.21 | Kitara | got the key!!! |
| 02:04.23 | Kitara | let's try |
| 02:04.27 | LinuxNIT | ok wait |
| 02:04.41 | LinuxNIT | well you gonna try from the gui in elpanel? |
| 02:04.50 | LinuxNIT | or from the terminal |
| 02:04.56 | Kitara | er no i thought commanline |
| 02:05.14 | LinuxNIT | you remember the command? |
| 02:05.23 | Kitara | yep |
| 02:05.40 | LinuxNIT | remember the quotes |
| 02:06.04 | LinuxNIT | after you run dhclient ath0 then do this |
| 02:06.09 | LinuxNIT | ifconfig eth0 down |
| 02:06.13 | LinuxNIT | ifconfig ath0 up |
| 02:06.34 | LinuxNIT | you will probably loose irc |
| 02:06.41 | LinuxNIT | and have to reconnect to freenode |
| 02:06.45 | Kitara | so i did the iwconfig "les wireless" and it gave nothing in return so i assule its ok |
| 02:06.53 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 02:06.56 | LinuxNIT | wait |
| 02:07.07 | Kitara | mmm |
| 02:07.09 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 02:07.09 | Kitara | ?? |
| 02:07.25 | LinuxNIT | iwconfig ath0 essid "Les Wireless" |
| 02:07.28 | LinuxNIT | like that |
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| 02:07.45 | LinuxNIT | copy and paste that |
| 02:07.53 | Kitara | yeah sorry, that's what i did with the key and all |
| 02:07.58 | LinuxNIT | oh ok |
| 02:07.59 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 02:08.03 | Kitara | ;-) |
| 02:08.10 | LinuxNIT | not do these in order once i say go |
| 02:08.12 | Kitara | what's next |
| 02:08.18 | LinuxNIT | ifconfig eth0 down |
| 02:08.24 | LinuxNIT | dhclient ath0 |
| 02:08.39 | LinuxNIT | check for a good connection with: |
| 02:08.43 | LinuxNIT | ping google.com |
| 02:08.47 | LinuxNIT | if nothing: |
| 02:08.53 | LinuxNIT | ifconfig ath0 up |
| 02:09.06 | LinuxNIT | you should have to reconnect xchat |
| 02:09.20 | LinuxNIT | ok go... unless you have a question |
| 02:09.32 | Kitara | ok, shall try, will this window stay open or shall i copy the instructions somewhere |
| 02:09.47 | LinuxNIT | keep xchat open |
| 02:09.57 | LinuxNIT | after you get wifi up then do this |
| 02:10.03 | LinuxNIT | IN xchat |
| 02:10.09 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:10.17 | LinuxNIT | that will reconnect you |
| 02:10.22 | Kitara | ok here i go |
| 02:10.26 | LinuxNIT | gl hf |
| 02:10.28 | LinuxNIT | :D |
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| 02:14.51 | LinuxNIT | kitera? |
| 02:15.06 | LinuxNIT | did it work? |
| 02:15.15 | kiatar | nope |
| 02:15.21 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 02:15.33 | LinuxNIT | did it ever get an ip? |
| 02:15.39 | kiatar | i could not get any dhcp offers |
| 02:15.43 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 02:15.52 | LinuxNIT | join #elive-flood |
| 02:16.05 | kiatar | but i checked iwconfig and it looked like i was connected to les wireless |
| 02:16.37 | LinuxNIT | thats info is just what you set on the devince |
| 02:16.45 | LinuxNIT | join #elive-flood |
| 02:16.50 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.01 | i3dmaster | LinuxNIT: do you know anyway I can split a terminal vertically? |
| 02:20.01 | Mutacion | ea ea ..la la la |
| 02:20.13 | LinuxNIT | :o |
| 02:20.25 | LinuxNIT | a butcher knife on the screen |
| 02:20.28 | Mutacion | sing linuxNIT |
| 02:20.31 | i3dmaster | hehe... |
| 02:20.56 | LinuxNIT | ba ba lo lo |
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| 02:31.29 | Mutacion | haha |
| 02:43.23 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
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| 03:20.20 | LinuxNIT | welcome Elive_user |
| 03:20.32 | Mutacion | my head hurts!!! |
| 03:20.37 | Mutacion | i need something :P |
| 03:20.41 | Mutacion | apt time-to |
| 03:20.43 | apt | somebody said time-to was its HAMBRITA TIME!!! |
| 03:20.44 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:21.05 | Mutacion | ohh well.. if u say so apt_ .. xD |
| 03:21.51 | Mutacion | im doing this only because u want me to do it, apt_ xD |
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| 06:04.54 | MetaPhaze | hello LinuxNIT Mutacion and everyone sending you another eliver |
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| 06:11.46 | El_Brujo | can i have files in my e desktop? |
| 06:18.56 | LinuxNIT | technically yes |
| 06:19.11 | LinuxNIT | but its not part of e16/e17 |
| 06:19.27 | LinuxNIT | you can install a program that will let you put icons on the desktop |
| 06:22.49 | El_Brujo | :( |
| 06:23.00 | El_Brujo | รงa program like what? |
| 06:25.23 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 06:25.48 | LinuxNIT | wm-icons |
| 06:25.52 | LinuxNIT | i think thats it |
| 06:32.13 | El_Brujo | ok |
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| 06:48.01 | El_Brujo | can i change the clock type in my japan theme? |
| 06:48.36 | El_Brujo | i mean put an analog clock |
| 06:49.31 | LinuxNIT | El_Brujo, not sure |
| 06:49.43 | LinuxNIT | but i found a better program than the first one i told you |
| 06:49.51 | LinuxNIT | desklaunch |
| 06:51.10 | El_Brujo | humm |
| 06:54.33 | LinuxNIT | it is for icons to lauch programs |
| 06:54.52 | LinuxNIT | wont let you store files on the desktop |
| 06:55.21 | El_Brujo | humm |
| 06:55.39 | El_Brujo | i need files in my desktop |
| 06:55.50 | El_Brujo | is a practical place to put files |
| 06:56.10 | LinuxNIT | i dont know |
| 06:56.34 | El_Brujo | ok |
| 06:56.36 | El_Brujo | tanks |
| 06:58.22 | LinuxNIT | hang on |
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| 07:12.42 | LinuxNIT | i dunno |
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| 07:46.20 | MetaPhaze_laptop | LinuxNIT, you can have icons on the desktop in e16/e17 by default... you have to edit the theme's config files |
| 07:50.12 | MetaPhaze_laptop | LinuxNIT-II, LinuxNIT http://www.etherdoxproject.org/index.php?id=how+to+add+icons+to+your+E+desktop |
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| 08:43.47 | jnjb | salut |
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| 12:35.52 | roxville | good morning ppl :) |
| 12:39.49 | pale_horse | hey roxville |
| 12:43.08 | roxville | hi pale_horse :) |
| 12:43.29 | roxville | sorry for the lag... i'm trying another server distro... *sigh* |
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| 12:50.56 | roxville | hello Elive_user |
| 12:50.59 | roxville | hi pyc |
| 12:51.14 | Elive_user | hi |
| 12:51.15 | pyc | hello roxville :) |
| 12:52.07 | pyc | roxville, you're a gimp user right? |
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| 12:52.32 | pyc | a gimper? |
| 12:53.25 | roxville | pyc, i try... |
| 12:53.35 | roxville | anything i can help you with? :) |
| 12:53.56 | pyc | nothing in particular, but do you make icons? |
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| 12:54.56 | roxville | pyc, i made or modded some of the icons in elpanel... |
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| 12:55.17 | pyc | ohh wow.. all that in gimp? |
| 12:55.35 | roxville | but only from pics... or easy icons... like cubes and stuff.... i don't consider myself an artist |
| 12:55.45 | roxville | yep, all in gimp |
| 12:56.11 | pyc | heheh.. do you use inkscape too? |
| 12:56.39 | roxville | no... inkscape and i don't get along well... but i am following the development of xaralx for linux |
| 12:56.49 | roxville | with great interest... xara is awesome |
| 12:57.06 | pyc | yeah xara has great potential |
| 12:57.40 | roxville | oh yeah... the win version even uses PS plugins... that is sooo cool |
| 12:58.00 | pyc | wow.. |
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| 13:00.10 | roxville | hi again eli... |
| 13:00.25 | roxville | i wish that dude would make his mind up... |
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| 13:02.28 | pyc | lol... |
| 13:04.49 | roxville | lol Elive_looser |
| 13:06.10 | Elive_looser | ^^ |
| 13:06.36 | roxville | Elive_looser, what version are you testing? |
| 13:06.55 | Elive_looser | beta |
| 13:07.34 | roxville | ok, good |
| 13:07.44 | roxville | does it run well? |
| 13:08.39 | Elive_looser | yep |
| 13:09.10 | roxville | cool! :) |
| 13:09.19 | Elive_looser | but not with the 0.4.2 |
| 13:09.40 | Elive_looser | only beta work on my computer that strange |
| 13:10.22 | roxville | not really |
| 13:10.31 | Elive_looser | ah? |
| 13:10.59 | roxville | 0.5 is a whole new version... a different debian base system, AND a much better kernel |
| 13:11.13 | roxville | better hardware support |
| 13:11.27 | Elive_looser | ok |
| 13:12.06 | LinuxNIT-II | howdy folks |
| 13:14.56 | roxville | howdy LinuxNIT-II |
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| 13:30.27 | Mutacion | hi ppl |
| 13:30.28 | Mutacion | bye ppl |
| 13:30.42 | LinuxNIT | hi Mutacion |
| 13:30.51 | LinuxNIT | by mu |
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| 14:53.46 | LinuxNIT | anyone know if you can force xchat to display the tabs at the botom again? |
| 14:55.21 | pale_horse | yes |
| 14:55.34 | pale_horse | in the menu chose view |
| 14:55.43 | pale_horse | then layout |
| 14:55.49 | pale_horse | then tabs or tree |
| 14:56.27 | pale_horse | at least in 2.6.4 |
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| 14:57.45 | LinuxNIT | dosent work |
| 14:57.49 | LinuxNIT | tried that |
| 14:57.57 | LinuxNIT | thats why i want to force it :D |
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| 14:59.50 | LinuxNIT | hmm almost got it |
| 14:59.54 | LinuxNIT | xchat.conf |
| 14:59.56 | LinuxNIT | lol |
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| 15:40.59 | Think | Hi all |
| 15:41.53 | Think | question , how do i change the terminal on background can't read the terminal , only with darker desktop background |
| 15:43.02 | roxville | e16 or e17 Think ? |
| 15:43.06 | Think | e16 |
| 15:43.40 | roxville | elpanel->e16->terminal manager |
| 15:44.01 | roxville | the icon on the left when opening |
| 15:44.07 | Think | done witch option |
| 15:44.50 | Think | i can choose 5 options |
| 15:45.20 | roxville | option 2 |
| 15:45.45 | Think | done what value |
| 15:45.59 | Think | now its stand on 86 |
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| 15:47.43 | Think | is this on color codes same webpage developing |
| 15:48.57 | Think | oke |
| 15:49.09 | Think | i will try something |
| 15:49.20 | Think | thanks for the help and time |
| 15:49.27 | roxville | yw :) |
| 15:49.35 | Think | :D |
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| 15:49.53 | roxville | hello Rendergraf |
| 15:50.24 | Think | roxville its done just enter 00 and the terminal is black |
| 15:50.31 | Think | :D |
| 15:50.41 | roxville | awesome! |
| 15:50.55 | Think | so i can read now |
| 15:51.07 | roxville | oh, that's what you meant... sorry, i didn't understand that... |
| 15:51.18 | Think | its oke |
| 15:51.24 | Think | problem is fixed |
| 15:51.39 | Think | all see you later need to eat now |
| 15:51.57 | roxville | ok :) |
| 15:52.00 | Think | bye' |
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| 16:15.44 | bentejuy | hello all! |
| 16:16.28 | LinuxNIT | hello |
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| 16:24.37 | Thanatermesis | apt, infomail |
| 16:24.58 | Thanatermesis | apt, subscription |
| 16:24.59 | apt | rumour has it, subscription is If you like to subscribe to Elive News (specially for are informed about releases), make a look to http://elivecd.org/gb/infomail , http://elivecd.org/es/infomail or http://elivecd.org/fr/infomail , depends of your language |
| 16:25.13 | Thanatermesis | apt, infomail is same as subscription |
| 16:25.14 | apt | okay, Thanatermesis |
| 16:25.15 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 16:25.19 | Thanatermesis | apt, subscription |
| 16:25.20 | apt | subscription is, like, If you like to subscribe to Elive News (specially for are informed about releases), make a look to http://elivecd.org/gb/infomail , http://elivecd.org/es/infomail or http://elivecd.org/fr/infomail , depends of your language |
| 16:25.29 | Thanatermesis | apt, infomail |
| 16:25.31 | apt | i heard infomail is same as subscription |
| 16:25.34 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 16:25.40 | Thanatermesis | apt forget subscription |
| 16:25.40 | apt | i forgot subscription, Thanatermesis |
| 16:26.13 | Thanatermesis | apt infomail is If you like to subscribe to Elive News (specially for are informed about releases), make a look to http://elivecd.org/gb/infomail , http://elivecd.org/es/infomail or http://elivecd.org/fr/infomail , depends of your language |
| 16:26.14 | apt | ...but infomail is already something else... |
| 16:26.21 | Thanatermesis | apt no, infomail is If you like to subscribe to Elive News (specially for are informed about releases), make a look to http://elivecd.org/gb/infomail , http://elivecd.org/es/infomail or http://elivecd.org/fr/infomail , depends of your language |
| 16:26.22 | apt | okay, Thanatermesis |
| 16:26.27 | Thanatermesis | http://thanatermesis.org/users/mailing/result.png |
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| 16:39.48 | Elive_user51 | hi |
| 16:40.18 | bentejuy | hi Elive_user51 |
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| 16:50.03 | Kitara | coo coo :D |
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| 17:26.40 | _h | thanatermesis? |
| 17:26.55 | Thanatermesis | dime _h |
| 17:27.13 | _h | estoy buscando el network manager ese |
| 17:27.17 | _h | es un paquete de debian? |
| 17:27.30 | Thanatermesis | gnome-system-tools creo |
| 17:27.36 | _h | network-manager-gnome - network management framework (GNOME frontend)? |
| 17:27.39 | Thanatermesis | utiliza apt-file ;) desde que lo conoci no puedo vivir sin el |
| 17:27.45 | _h | :) |
| 17:27.46 | Thanatermesis | a ver... dame un segundo |
| 17:28.24 | Thanatermesis | aha, si, apt-file me lo dijo :) |
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| 17:51.45 | _H_ | thanatermesis, he intentado instalar el network-manager que hay en el elive en mi debian pero no lo encuentro |
| 17:52.09 | _H_ | ya he instalado los paquetes network-manager y network-manager-gnome |
| 17:52.23 | _H_ | pero no puedo ejecutar ese programa |
| 17:52.25 | Thanatermesis | _H_, no no... gnome-system-tools |
| 17:52.32 | _H_ | ah |
| 17:52.45 | Thanatermesis | y luego tienes que lanzar network-admin |
| 17:52.52 | _H_ | ok |
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| 17:53.16 | kender | hello |
| 17:56.04 | _H_ | no me muestra mi wlan0 |
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| 17:59.25 | _H_ | la puedo lanzar con ifconfig :) |
| 18:00.21 | Thanatermesis | no muestra la wlan0 ? en cambio funciona, no ? |
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| 18:22.40 | Kitara | LinuxNIT, are you present? |
| 18:23.37 | Kitara | LinuxNIT-II or LinuxNIT-III, who shall i speak to? :D if present off coarse |
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| 18:34.42 | roxville | Kitara, i think he's at work |
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| 18:35.16 | Kitara | might be :D i figured since it took a while before someone reacted, but thx for telling me! |
| 18:35.35 | kender | re |
| 18:35.45 | Kitara | roxville, can you help me with something |
| 18:36.35 | roxville | Kitara, sure dude, if i can :) |
| 18:37.01 | roxville | hi kender , wb :) |
| 18:37.08 | kender | hey |
| 18:37.16 | Kitara | well is it normal that if i log out in E16 that i just get a black screen and nothing happens? it happens every time |
| 18:37.38 | roxville | Kitara, no, that's not normal |
| 18:37.52 | Kitara | what could it be? |
| 18:37.52 | roxville | was that all? that was easy!! |
| 18:38.01 | roxville | darn... |
| 18:38.04 | roxville | :D |
| 18:38.27 | roxville | Kitara, what version of elive are you running? |
| 18:38.41 | Kitara | 0.5 |
| 18:39.16 | roxville | what is your GPU? (graphics card) |
| 18:40.37 | Kitara | ati radeon 300M or something using the gfxl... driver :D sorry for incomplete information |
| 18:40.58 | Thanatermesis | <Kitara> well is it normal that if i log out in E16 that i just get a black screen and nothing happens? it happens every time |
| 18:41.05 | Thanatermesis | nvidia privative driver bug |
| 18:41.33 | Kitara | nvidea driver? i'm using the gfxl.. driver |
| 18:41.35 | Thanatermesis | oh, ati ? hehe |
| 18:42.01 | Thanatermesis | try with RADEON option or vesa |
| 18:42.14 | Thanatermesis | use privative drivers give problems... |
| 18:44.30 | Kitara | the radeon driver won't work it gives me screens filled with graph garbage and the vesa is too slow |
| 18:44.38 | roxville | i think he's saying that he IS using the GPLradeon driver... |
| 18:45.10 | Thanatermesis | vesa is not slow, vesa don't has 3d acceleration |
| 18:45.27 | Kitara | wel i had three options while booting (1. RADEON 2. gfxl... 3. VESA) i chose the second because the first didn't work |
| 18:45.29 | Thanatermesis | gplradeon ? mmmh.. no fglrx ? |
| 18:45.48 | Kitara | yessss fglrx |
| 18:46.00 | Thanatermesis | ah.. well, look if with vesa you have the same problem |
| 18:46.39 | Thanatermesis | do you have tried to update the firmware of your graphic card ? i have needed to make this for solve the same problem in a matrox parhelia |
| 18:47.24 | Kitara | i'm not gonna do a firmware upgrade anymore, my dvd drive was trashed last time i tried and i did it correct, something went wrong during the flash |
| 18:47.37 | Kitara | i'm afraid to upgade now since i really need my laptop |
| 18:47.49 | Kitara | and can't afford four weeks repar |
| 18:47.50 | roxville | sorry Kitara , but ATI + Linux = lots of tweaking |
| 18:47.53 | Kitara | repair |
| 18:48.27 | Kitara | but it works fine :D except for the log out thing |
| 18:48.33 | Kitara | too bad :'( |
| 18:49.10 | roxville | Thanatermesis, can't it just be entrance? |
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| 18:49.30 | Thanatermesis | yes, upgrade firmware is a little dangerous... Kitara, search your problem on google, if is a firmware bug, you found it |
| 18:49.36 | Elive_user0 | yeha |
| 18:49.48 | Thanatermesis | roxville, im not sure... he need to test it |
| 18:50.12 | Thanatermesis | killing and exiting totally from entrance, launching the graphical system from console.. etc |
| 18:50.34 | Kitara | i'll try googling, but if you search google for elive stuff i have expierienced to not find allot :D but i'll give it a swing |
| 18:51.42 | Thanatermesis | Kitara, searching on google for Elive ? i don't think to you found very results... |
| 18:52.03 | Thanatermesis | im pretty sure to your problem in in hardware of your card, their firmware, or their driver |
| 18:52.31 | Thanatermesis | then this problem has ANY user to has your card, linux, and version of driver (or the thing to give the problem), no only Elive users... |
| 18:53.30 | Kitara | that's true |
| 18:54.22 | Elive_user0 | yeha |
| 18:55.10 | Kitara | i'm also having extremely large problems using my atherps wireless ethernet card. i tried yesterday night with LinuxNIT and we where unsuccessfull getting it to work. i can activate it, but appearantly i can't scan for networks and if i connect to a known wireless network with essid and key, and do a dhcp request, i get no dhcp offer... this is really irritating |
| 18:57.22 | roxville | i bet |
| 18:57.47 | roxville | well... that IS LinuxNIT 's area... he ROCKS at those things... |
| 18:57.52 | Thanatermesis | madwifi driver has turned to madwifi-ng (new generation), if you ask on #madwifi channel you have a lot more of info about this stuff, maybe is a problem of the development state of the driver... those persons knows this, if is anything to Elive needs to fix (for example update the driver, or have the option to use the old driver), just tell me |
| 18:59.54 | Kitara | are you the developer? |
| 19:00.17 | Thanatermesis | in some part, yes :) |
| 19:00.27 | Kitara | :D okay, great |
| 19:01.03 | Kitara | wel LinuxNIT sugested that we should try the ng version, but it was damn hard to set up. |
| 19:01.23 | roxville | "in some part, yes :)" LMAO |
| 19:01.36 | Kitara | Thanatermesis, great work! I love your distro! do you still live in Belgium? |
| 19:01.51 | i3dmaster | roxville: got any new pics? |
| 19:01.59 | Gwildor | o/ |
| 19:02.01 | Gwildor | lo/ |
| 19:02.07 | Thanatermesis | thanks :) yes, im living on belgium, liege |
| 19:02.14 | Gwildor | 1ol |
| 19:02.19 | Kitara | in liege, i live in westerlo |
| 19:02.21 | Thanatermesis | \o/ Gwildor |
| 19:02.42 | roxville | i3dmaster, not a pixel... sorry |
| 19:02.42 | Thanatermesis | mmh, westerlo... sixflags ? |
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| 19:02.58 | i3dmaster | roxville: oh no problem... just checking.. |
| 19:02.59 | Kitara | no that's in ..... errrrr... wavre! |
| 19:03.17 | roxville | i'm trying to get my server up, still... and i have to activate my daughter... sorry :/ |
| 19:03.29 | Gwildor | ??Activate?? |
| 19:03.34 | Gwildor | ur daughter run on windows? |
| 19:03.45 | Gwildor | ive got a WGA crack |
| 19:04.22 | roxville | hehe, hand it over... but i have her on dreamlinux right now, actually... it's 65% elive 0.4.2 |
| 19:04.48 | roxville | i mean activate physically... swimming pool and stuff |
| 19:06.38 | i3dmaster | debian doesn't seem to use xinitrc.d to store X session startup files |
| 19:06.52 | Kitara | does anybody get the error "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out(-vo) device" when trying to play any video file in mplayer? then again the ibm multiple video test runs fine |
| 19:08.03 | Thanatermesis | i3dmaster, .d ? well, this is a thing to the X login manager make, try with xsession also |
| 19:08.05 | Thanatermesis | Kitara, gmplayer ? |
| 19:08.20 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis, yes looking at Xsession |
| 19:08.30 | i3dmaster | its pretty much all under Xsession.d |
| 19:08.31 | Kitara | Mplayer yess with the one with the terminator skin |
| 19:08.53 | Thanatermesis | Kitara, only this skin ? |
| 19:09.00 | i3dmaster | SYSSESSIONDIR=/etc/X11/Xsession.d |
| 19:09.19 | i3dmaster | need to port some RH specific stuff to debian |
| 19:09.21 | Kitara | Thanatermesis, no on the default skin also |
| 19:10.07 | Thanatermesis | i3dmaster, i think to it works on debian, but not in my tests (maybe entrance is the problem), if you know how to the system uses this /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ directory tell me, i need to implement a stuff using this |
| 19:10.50 | Thanatermesis | Kitara, try to remove your $HOME/.mplayer directory and try again |
| 19:10.58 | Kitara | ok just a sec |
| 19:10.59 | Thanatermesis | relaunching gmplayre |
| 19:11.31 | i3dmaster | ya, Im not very faimilar with that either... but will look into it. |
| 19:11.55 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 19:12.13 | Kitara | Thanatermesis, still the error |
| 19:12.31 | i3dmaster | but looks like xinitrc calls Xsession and Xsession run-parts everything under Xsession.d.. just need to learn the format of how to write those session files. |
| 19:12.47 | Thanatermesis | Kitara, ok, i need to look about this stuff.. go to the preferences menu and select your correct video output option, use XV or X11 |
| 19:13.30 | Thanatermesis | i3dmaster, im not sure, i have tried to look about this stuff some time ago but i not have finished, im in the same situtation, hehe |
| 19:13.58 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis: oh.. |
| 19:14.11 | Kitara | ok X11 does the job |
| 19:14.29 | Thanatermesis | Kitara, if XV works on your machine, use it better than X11 ;) |
| 19:14.54 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis: do you know I can even run mplayer on console mode under elive? |
| 19:14.56 | Kitara | Thanatermesis, no XV gives same error |
| 19:15.26 | i3dmaster | feel a little of crazy on that.. |
| 19:16.51 | Thanatermesis | i3dmaster, yeah, of course... if you use framebuffer, the option -vo fbdev works, but you have also the options -vo sdl, -vo vesa, -vo svga, and the more fun, -vo aa |
| 19:17.11 | Kitara | Thanatermesis, now it always say when i open a file "Failed to open /home/nick/.mplayer/default.sub" is that because i deleted the directory before? |
| 19:18.16 | Thanatermesis | Kitara, i don't think... Elive don't has this directory by default |
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| 19:21.14 | Kitara | Thanatermesis, i just browsed to the directory and saw there was no file called like that so i did touch default.sub , and now he doesn't give the error anymore |
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| 19:32.14 | Kitara | hi just recovered from log-out crash again |
| 19:33.48 | Kitara | Thanatermesis, i must say that i did not experience the log-out crash with elive 0.4.2 and using the same drivers as i am using now |
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| 20:22.45 | LinuxNIT | <roxville> "in some part, yes :)" LMAO <<< i agree |
| 20:22.59 | Kitara | Hi LinuxNIT |
| 20:23.57 | LinuxNIT | hi Kitara |
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| 20:25.39 | LinuxNIT | well i gtg again |
| 20:25.44 | LinuxNIT | ill be back later |
| 20:25.51 | Kitara | ok see ya |
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| 20:27.49 | Kitara | can i install madwifi-ng if madwifi is still installed or do i have to remove madwifi first? |
| 20:28.43 | LinuxNIT | hehe i am still here. um |
| 20:28.49 | LinuxNIT | id remove them first |
| 20:29.29 | Kitara | well i'm kind of desperete here, that's why i'm willing to try the ng version. what did you mean by pretty hard to set up? |
| 20:29.53 | LinuxNIT | one sec ill get the how to for you |
| 20:29.56 | LinuxNIT | not hard |
| 20:29.59 | LinuxNIT | just a pain |
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| 20:30.19 | Kitara | ok thx LinuxNIT |
| 20:30.50 | LinuxNIT | http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo |
| 20:31.04 | LinuxNIT | Kitara, are the ng drivedrs available in apt? |
| 20:31.21 | Kitara | i see the package in synaptic |
| 20:31.43 | LinuxNIT | ok then on the how to i gave you. you should only have to do the part on setting up an interface |
| 20:31.53 | LinuxNIT | install them through apt |
| 20:32.11 | LinuxNIT | unless you want to get the latest versoin |
| 20:32.28 | Kitara | nope i'll first try the version in synaptic that would be a good starter |
| 20:32.39 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 20:33.43 | Kitara | owww i think the feed is broken |
| 20:34.01 | LinuxNIT | modprobe ath_pci |
| 20:34.10 | LinuxNIT | wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta |
| 20:34.24 | LinuxNIT | modprobe wlan_scan_sta |
| 20:34.30 | LinuxNIT | ifconfig ath0 up |
| 20:34.39 | LinuxNIT | wlanconfig ath0 list scan |
| 20:34.45 | LinuxNIT | Kitara, those are the commands |
| 20:34.54 | LinuxNIT | talk to me tonight and i can automate it |
| 20:34.59 | Kitara | ok, i'll write them down somewhere |
| 20:35.01 | LinuxNIT | i gtg no |
| 20:35.06 | LinuxNIT | i gtg now |
| 20:35.13 | Kitara | ok thx for the help LinuxNIT |
| 20:35.39 | LinuxNIT | any time |
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| 20:35.47 | LinuxNIT | (if im here) |
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| 20:47.22 | Elive_user80 | How do I check email? |
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| 21:07.31 | i3dmaster | Elive_user80, what do you mean how to check email? |
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| 21:47.36 | bentejuy | bye, hasta despues! |
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| 22:18.28 | bouba | hi thanatermesis! in the next elive version, it will be possible to write in the ntfs fs? thanks! |
| 22:18.46 | Thanatermesis | apt ntfs |
| 22:18.49 | apt | methinks ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/ has patches against 2.4.20 of the backport of the 2.5.X ntfs [ntfs-tng] allowing overwrite without changing filesize. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to acces the partition as non-root. See also ... |
| 22:18.59 | Thanatermesis | ntfs is a big sh*** |
| 22:19.14 | Thanatermesis | its posible... yes, but very insecure |
| 22:19.20 | Thanatermesis | it gives A LOT of problems |
| 22:20.31 | Thanatermesis | i have tried one time to copy 12 mp3 songs to my USB stick from a NTFS partition and everytime, are copied only 11, why not has copied the song number 9ยบ ? after to broke my brain with this problem i have look to changing the name of the file, it works... NTFS make strange things in their codifications |
| 22:21.01 | bouba | because i've eared that the last NTFS-3G it's very stable and 99.9% shure |
| 22:22.09 | Kitara | synaptic & |
| 22:22.20 | Kitara | sorry wrong box :d |
| 22:22.21 | Thanatermesis | the write is more sure, yes... but continues to are a bad thing |
| 22:22.25 | Thanatermesis | the solution ? not use it :) |
| 22:23.29 | bouba | eheheh ok... but many peoples will be happy if they can write on it:D |
| 22:25.55 | Thanatermesis | well... then is a good choice to write a letter to Mr Gates saying "please open the source of NTFS, we NEED to write/read on it" |
| 22:26.55 | Kitara | hi guys is there something wrong with the feed in synaptic? i can't install anything unable to fetch (following a path) |
| 22:27.36 | Thanatermesis | fetch ? |
| 22:28.23 | Kitara | yep i need to install the kernel source and headers to compile madwifi-ng, but it always says: W: Failed to fetch http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/pool/main/k/kernel-source-2.6.15/kernel-headers-2.6.15_10.00.Custom_i386.deb |
| 22:28.23 | Kitara | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:31.05 | Thanatermesis | update the repository |
| 22:32.02 | Kitara | * asks very shy * h...how? sorry newbee |
| 22:33.43 | Thanatermesis | sincerely... i don't know... i don't use synaptic, search on the menus |
| 22:33.47 | Thanatermesis | i just use "apt-get update" |
| 22:34.19 | bouba | it's the first icon |
| 22:34.31 | bouba | the 2 blue arrows |
| 22:34.48 | bouba | reload |
| 22:36.49 | Kitara | bouba, thx found it. |
| 22:36.59 | bouba | ;) |
| 22:38.34 | Kitara | is this one down? ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) |
| 22:40.49 | Thanatermesis | has changed |
| 22:41.00 | Thanatermesis | search in google "marillat" and edit your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:41.11 | Thanatermesis | or... just add the correct repositories to your Elive |
| 22:41.16 | Thanatermesis | is updated on the faq |
| 22:41.19 | Thanatermesis | http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/FAQ |
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| 22:49.34 | Kitara | mmm chceked faq and replaced repositories in the list file, but still et some errors |
| 22:51.40 | Kitara | http://wwww.debian-multimedia.org/dists/etch/Release.gpg: Could not resolve 'wwww.debian-multimedia.org' |
| 22:51.40 | Kitara | http://wwww.debian-multimedia.org/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Could not resolve 'wwww.debian-multimedia.org' |
| 22:52.20 | Thanatermesis | with four 'w' ? |
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| 22:54.57 | LinuxNIT | hey Kitara |
| 22:55.01 | LinuxNIT | hows it coming? |
| 22:56.03 | Kitara | hey, it was a copy paste, sorry didn't notice, but appeaantly it is like that on the faq page too |
| 22:56.24 | Kitara | hi LinuxNIT , well still trying too compile |
| 22:56.34 | LinuxNIT | compile? |
| 22:56.50 | LinuxNIT | did you install the madwifi-ng in synaptic? |
| 22:58.23 | Kitara | no not yet :D i couldn't but then it was the repositories, and now actually i can |
| 22:58.42 | unduality | Hi Guys! |
| 22:59.00 | LinuxNIT | hi unduality |
| 22:59.15 | Thanatermesis | oh... |
| 22:59.39 | LinuxNIT | im editing it |
| 23:00.22 | Kitara | LinuxNIT, now the package is gone in synaptic and also the kernel-header and kernel-source package for the 2.6 kernell |
| 23:00.31 | unduality | Hmm i noticed a strange thing with the mplayer plugin in firefox.... |
| 23:00.31 | Kitara | :'( |
| 23:01.23 | LinuxNIT | kitara close synaptic |
| 23:01.46 | unduality | In fullscreenmode it do not show like the last 5 centimeters of the screen exept if playing a realplayer video. Anyone else got this syntom? |
| 23:02.14 | LinuxNIT | no idea... i dont play vids much in firefox |
| 23:02.22 | Kitara | LinuxNIT, It has no effect i don't see the ng packages anymore, the rest is still there but not the ng packages |
| 23:02.38 | LinuxNIT | close synaptic |
| 23:02.49 | LinuxNIT | run apt-cache search madwifi |
| 23:02.57 | LinuxNIT | paste the output in #elive-flood |
| 23:04.31 | unduality | Ah, #elive-flood seems to be a really good replacement from pastebin. |
| 23:05.09 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 23:10.35 | *** join/#elive bentejuy (n=Manuel@22.Red-81-37-11.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 23:15.52 | *** join/#elive el_gris (n=Elive_us@201.153.105.240) |
| 23:21.41 | unduality | Hmm, this should be a really simple one... How do i make elive open my ntfs partition as user instead of just root? I forgot how to fix it... |
| 23:22.55 | LinuxNIT | add uid=1000 to the options for that partition in your fstab |
| 23:23.01 | LinuxNIT | then remount it |
| 23:29.06 | *** join/#elive Elive_user49 (n=Elive_us@195.174.227.10) |
| 23:29.07 | *** join/#elive Elive_user65 (n=Elive_us@195.174.227.10) |
| 23:29.07 | *** join/#elive Elive_user74 (n=Elive_us@195.174.227.10) |
| 23:29.25 | LinuxNIT | welcome Elive_user49 Elive_user65 and Elive_user74 |
| 23:30.54 | unduality | Thanx LinuxNIT . First it didnt work but then i added "users" and it just mounted it nicely. |
| 23:31.08 | LinuxNIT | np |
| 23:35.03 | *** join/#elive Elive_user49 (n=Elive_us@195.174.227.10) |
| 23:35.06 | Elive_user49 | h |
| 23:35.13 | Elive_user49 | hii |
| 23:35.16 | LinuxNIT | hi Elive_user49 |
| 23:35.52 | Elive_user49 | this must be linux huh |
| 23:36.27 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 23:36.33 | LinuxNIT | yes one version of it |
| 23:36.33 | *** join/#elive kiwi_ (n=kiwi@cha92-2-82-67-145-135.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:36.50 | Elive_user49 | but dunno anything about this thing |
| 23:37.06 | LinuxNIT | well we are here to answer any questions |
| 23:37.14 | Elive_user49 | just got a pc magazine and install |
| 23:37.21 | Elive_user49 | from a dvd |
| 23:37.26 | Elive_user49 | but it looks good |
| 23:37.36 | Elive_user49 | what can I do with this thing |
| 23:37.43 | LinuxNIT | what do you want to do :D |
| 23:38.02 | Elive_user49 | for example how can I listen to my music |
| 23:38.06 | LinuxNIT | word proccessing internet email audio/video |
| 23:38.07 | Elive_user49 | in my pc |
| 23:38.12 | LinuxNIT | xmms |
| 23:38.15 | Elive_user49 | yep yep audio |
| 23:38.40 | LinuxNIT | the littel cd with a music symbol on it at the bottom of the screen |
| 23:38.40 | Elive_user49 | how can I see my folders |
| 23:38.49 | Elive_user49 | yea Ive just clicked it |
| 23:39.03 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 23:39.15 | LinuxNIT | click the eject button |
| 23:39.21 | Elive_user49 | something appeared like winamp |
| 23:39.24 | *** join/#elive soatola (n=soatola4@82.152.193.96) |
| 23:39.28 | Elive_user49 | :p |
| 23:39.45 | Elive_user49 | yea Ive clicked |
| 23:39.50 | LinuxNIT | xmms can use some of winamps skins |
| 23:39.51 | Elive_user49 | so ? |
| 23:40.03 | LinuxNIT | the ../ goes up a directory |
| 23:40.19 | LinuxNIT | you hard drives data will be in /mnt/hda1 |
| 23:40.29 | Elive_user49 | ok |
| 23:40.32 | Elive_user49 | checking |
| 23:43.48 | Elive_user49 | couldnt find |
| 23:43.55 | Elive_user49 | Ive 3 drivers |
| 23:44.02 | Elive_user49 | like c d and g |
| 23:44.11 | LinuxNIT | ok did you find mnt? |
| 23:44.16 | Elive_user49 | yes |
| 23:44.25 | LinuxNIT | was there anything in the directory? |
| 23:44.30 | Elive_user49 | yes |
| 23:44.35 | Elive_user49 | hd1 was there |
| 23:44.43 | Elive_user49 | but not my music folder |
| 23:44.54 | LinuxNIT | we other folders? |
| 23:44.59 | LinuxNIT | inside hda1 |
| 23:45.09 | Elive_user49 | checking again |
| 23:45.20 | Elive_user49 | :0 |
| 23:45.43 | LinuxNIT | nothing? |
| 23:47.59 | Elive_user49 | no nothing |
| 23:48.14 | Elive_user49 | I had a folder named My Music there |
| 23:48.22 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 23:48.26 | Elive_user49 | while Windows |
| 23:48.34 | LinuxNIT | i think it is a permissions problem |
| 23:48.37 | Elive_user49 | but now theres nothing |
| 23:48.43 | Elive_user49 | it could be |
| 23:48.46 | LinuxNIT | your my music folder is on drive C? |
| 23:48.56 | Elive_user49 | no in drive D |
| 23:49.09 | LinuxNIT | ok in mnt |
| 23:49.17 | LinuxNIT | is there a hda2 or 3? |
| 23:49.43 | Elive_user49 | hd1 hd5 hd6 |
| 23:49.49 | LinuxNIT | :o |
| 23:49.52 | LinuxNIT | how odd |
| 23:49.53 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 23:49.56 | LinuxNIT | well look in those |
| 23:50.30 | Elive_user49 | I checked them all |
| 23:50.42 | Elive_user49 | but i cant still see them |
| 23:50.44 | LinuxNIT | ok well grr |
| 23:50.50 | LinuxNIT | we have to go to a command line |
| 23:50.52 | LinuxNIT | :_/ |
| 23:50.54 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 23:51.01 | LinuxNIT | so open a terminal |
| 23:51.05 | LinuxNIT | the icon on the far left |
| 23:51.31 | LinuxNIT | type : |
| 23:51.33 | LinuxNIT | su |
| 23:51.58 | Elive_user49 | ok |
| 23:52.01 | Elive_user49 | typed |
| 23:52.14 | Elive_user49 | root elive it says |
| 23:52.19 | LinuxNIT | right |
| 23:52.26 | LinuxNIT | now you have full permissions |
| 23:52.34 | Elive_user49 | mmm |
| 23:52.36 | LinuxNIT | in linux you use the system as a user |
| 23:52.36 | Elive_user49 | ok |
| 23:52.40 | LinuxNIT | and do admin as root |
| 23:52.45 | LinuxNIT | keeps things safe |
| 23:52.56 | Elive_user49 | mmm |
| 23:53.07 | LinuxNIT | joine #elive-flood |
| 23:53.14 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:53.22 | LinuxNIT | type that in xchat |
| 23:53.25 | Elive_user49 | so I always need to know the commands |
| 23:54.01 | Elive_user49 | I am there |
| 23:54.04 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 23:54.17 | LinuxNIT | type mount -l |
| 23:54.23 | LinuxNIT | paste the output in #elive-flood |
| 23:54.57 | LinuxNIT | paste by highlighting the text then using the middle click on the mouse to paste |
