| 00:03.01 | PrinceAMD_ | LinuxNIT: u back |
| 00:03.08 | LinuxNIT | no not yet |
| 00:03.10 | LinuxNIT | still gone |
| 00:03.15 | PrinceAMD_ | really |
| 00:03.21 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 00:03.30 | LinuxNIT | this is the bot i wrote to auto respond for me |
| 00:03.37 | LinuxNIT | sorry LinuxNIT will be back soon |
| 00:03.40 | PrinceAMD_ | lol |
| 00:03.59 | PrinceAMD_ | LinuxNIT:slap |
| 00:04.12 | LinuxNIT | apt slap PrinceAMD_ |
| 00:04.13 | apt | ACTION slaps PrinceAMD_, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 00:04.36 | LinuxNIT | hehe im back |
| 00:04.38 | PrinceAMD_ | lol |
| 00:04.40 | LinuxNIT | i see you met my bot |
| 00:04.43 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 00:04.46 | LinuxNIT | you like? |
| 00:04.52 | PrinceAMD_ | NO! |
| 00:04.55 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 00:05.10 | LinuxNIT | jk its not a bot |
| 00:05.11 | PrinceAMD_ | so can yah help me now or yah busy |
| 00:05.16 | LinuxNIT | i can try |
| 00:05.18 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 00:05.18 | pales_rider | duh |
| 00:05.24 | LinuxNIT | howdy pales_rider |
| 00:05.48 | pales_rider | hi linuxnit |
| 00:06.04 | PrinceAMD_ | pales_rider: hey |
| 00:06.20 | pales_rider | hi PrinceAMD_ |
| 00:06.54 | pales_rider | a bot...gimme a break..lol |
| 00:06.58 | PrinceAMD_ | pales_rider: sup |
| 00:07.09 | PrinceAMD_ | yea he trying to fool me |
| 00:07.14 | PrinceAMD_ | but i too smart :D |
| 00:07.26 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 00:07.28 | LinuxNIT | soooo |
| 00:08.11 | pales_rider | yes you sure are |
| 00:08.11 | LinuxNIT | what errors are you getting on boot? |
| 00:08.15 | PrinceAMD_ | not a error it's just asking me to press Control+D |
| 00:08.16 | LinuxNIT | does it say anything else? |
| 00:08.28 | LinuxNIT | like enter root pw for maintenance? |
| 00:08.47 | PrinceAMD_ | nope |
| 00:08.56 | LinuxNIT | uname -a |
| 00:09.00 | LinuxNIT | whats that say |
| 00:09.24 | PrinceAMD_ | ok let me reboot n come back n tell u exactly what it says ok |
| 00:09.31 | LinuxNIT | wait |
| 00:09.33 | LinuxNIT | first |
| 00:09.35 | PrinceAMD_ | ok |
| 00:09.38 | LinuxNIT | whats uname -a say? |
| 00:09.58 | PrinceAMD_ | Linux elive 2.6.15 #1 Sun Mar 12 11:51:52 CET 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 00:10.05 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 00:10.21 | PrinceAMD_ | can i go now |
| 00:10.24 | LinuxNIT | put your grub menu.lst in pastebin.ca |
| 00:10.37 | LinuxNIT | not elive-flood its too long |
| 00:11.01 | PrinceAMD_ | pastebin.ca? |
| 00:11.06 | PrinceAMD_ | how to do? |
| 00:11.28 | LinuxNIT | go to pastebin.ca with firefox |
| 00:11.35 | LinuxNIT | paste the info into the bin and sendit |
| 00:11.41 | LinuxNIT | then give me the link |
| 00:12.05 | PrinceAMD_ | kool |
| 00:12.24 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@201.250.209.167) |
| 00:13.50 | PrinceAMD_ | http://pastebin.ca/141476 |
| 00:14.35 | PrinceAMD_ | LinuxNIT: nice site :D |
| 00:15.49 | LinuxNIT | has it always done this? |
| 00:18.25 | PrinceAMD_ | yea |
| 00:18.34 | PrinceAMD_ | every time i load up |
| 00:18.47 | LinuxNIT | right after install? |
| 00:18.56 | PrinceAMD_ | yep |
| 00:19.25 | LinuxNIT | lets try this first |
| 00:19.39 | LinuxNIT | grub-install /dev/hda |
| 00:19.42 | LinuxNIT | then reboot |
| 00:19.47 | LinuxNIT | oh wait |
| 00:19.49 | LinuxNIT | ls /boot |
| 00:19.52 | LinuxNIT | show me that |
| 00:20.10 | PrinceAMD_ | ok |
| 00:20.13 | *** join/#elive [JASON] (i=[JASON]@208.153.97.107) |
| 00:20.19 | [JASON] | sup |
| 00:20.24 | LinuxNIT | su [JASON] |
| 00:20.25 | PrinceAMD_ | coffee.bmp debianlilo.bmp memtest System.map-2.6.15 |
| 00:20.25 | PrinceAMD_ | config-2.6.15 grub sarge.bmp vmlinuz |
| 00:20.25 | PrinceAMD_ | debian.bmp initrd.img-2.6.15 sid.bmp vmlinuz-2.6.15 |
| 00:20.43 | PrinceAMD_ | [jason] u nah get nun fah do boi |
| 00:20.57 | LinuxNIT | wtf? |
| 00:21.07 | [JASON] | nuin at all |
| 00:21.14 | PrinceAMD_ | LinuxNIT: what? |
| 00:21.15 | [JASON] | and i na able play |
| 00:21.34 | PrinceAMD_ | we goin play later banna |
| 00:21.40 | LinuxNIT | what is debianlil.bmp? |
| 00:21.45 | LinuxNIT | what is debianlilo.bmp? |
| 00:22.11 | PrinceAMD_ | LinuxNIT: was trying to install lilo but it FAILED!!! so i when back to GRUB |
| 00:22.21 | *** join/#elive dererk (n=dash@unaffiliated/dererk) |
| 00:22.30 | LinuxNIT | ok reinstall grub with the command i gave you |
| 00:22.34 | LinuxNIT | grub-install /dev/hda |
| 00:23.10 | PrinceAMD_ | kool |
| 00:23.43 | PrinceAMD_ | my main drive is hda2 |
| 00:23.44 | PrinceAMD_ | grub is on hda2 |
| 00:24.23 | PrinceAMD_ | Installation finished. No error reported. |
| 00:24.35 | LinuxNIT | but you install grub to /dev/hda which is the mbr |
| 00:24.40 | LinuxNIT | master boot record |
| 00:24.47 | PrinceAMD_ | yea i know |
| 00:24.48 | LinuxNIT | its config info goes on hda2 |
| 00:24.49 | PrinceAMD_ | ok |
| 00:24.52 | LinuxNIT | reboot |
| 00:24.54 | [JASON] | PrinceAMD accept |
| 00:24.54 | PrinceAMD_ | oh |
| 00:25.09 | PrinceAMD_ | accpet what bo |
| 00:25.14 | PrinceAMD_ | brb |
| 00:25.17 | [JASON] | msn |
| 00:25.20 | PrinceAMD_ | jason send msn |
| 00:25.21 | PrinceAMD_ | oh |
| 00:25.38 | PrinceAMD_ | convert that bmp to jpg |
| 00:25.43 | PrinceAMD_ | brb |
| 00:27.03 | [JASON] | so......what now |
| 00:27.14 | LinuxNIT | what ever you wanna do |
| 00:27.16 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 00:27.24 | [JASON] | lol |
| 00:27.32 | [JASON] | first asl? |
| 00:27.37 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 00:27.38 | LinuxNIT | asl? |
| 00:28.00 | [JASON] | yea.........u age.....sex.......location |
| 00:28.10 | LinuxNIT | no thanks im good |
| 00:28.16 | [JASON] | lol |
| 00:28.45 | LinuxNIT | but i bet your a boy about 16-18 |
| 00:29.38 | [JASON] | yea.........and i na feel good that a male get a smile face and tellin me whatever i wanna do |
| 00:29.42 | [JASON] | how u know |
| 00:30.23 | LinuxNIT | and your ip is 208.153.97.107 |
| 00:31.08 | [JASON] | yea.......ok i know how u get de ip |
| 00:31.15 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 00:31.56 | [JASON] | ok atleast say u a boy or gurl |
| 00:32.05 | LinuxNIT | mwahahaha |
| 00:32.11 | [JASON] | boy |
| 00:32.20 | [JASON] | rite? |
| 00:32.35 | LinuxNIT | thats whats nice about my nick.... its not gender specific so you have no way to know |
| 00:32.58 | LinuxNIT | i could be the hotest girl you ever met...... online |
| 00:33.06 | LinuxNIT | which isnt saying much |
| 00:33.20 | [JASON] | hmmmmm |
| 00:33.28 | LinuxNIT | ok ill bbiab |
| 00:33.38 | LinuxNIT | tell prince i wont be gone long |
| 00:33.47 | LinuxNIT | and yah im a boy/man |
| 00:33.48 | [JASON] | i figure da |
| 00:33.50 | LinuxNIT | one or the other |
| 00:34.15 | [JASON] | hmmmm........about 18-20 something |
| 00:34.36 | [JASON] | me rite? |
| 00:36.11 | [JASON] | how come where u ip had to be.........they get adsl-70-240-137-33.dsl.okcyok.swbell. |
| 00:36.29 | [JASON] | LinuxNIT: ?? |
| 00:37.09 | *** join/#elive Elive-newb (n=Elive_us@74.134.23.254) |
| 00:37.18 | *** join/#elive rookmoot (n=rookmoot@ANantes-256-1-84-72.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 00:37.58 | *** join/#elive Elive_user37 (n=Elive_us@65.199.205.163) |
| 00:38.31 | Elive_user37 | LinuxNIT: |
| 00:38.59 | Elive_user37 | LinuxNIT: when the pc start up i seeing grub> i'm on live now |
| 00:39.05 | Elive_user37 | how can i fix this |
| 00:51.28 | LinuxNIT | [JASON], you were supposed to tellhim to wait for me |
| 00:51.30 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 00:52.41 | *** join/#elive Elive_user21 (n=Elive_us@65.199.205.163) |
| 00:52.49 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user21, |
| 00:52.51 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 00:52.55 | LinuxNIT | princeamd right? |
| 00:53.13 | Elive_user21 | yea |
| 00:53.20 | *** join/#elive PrinceAMD (n=Elive_us@65.199.205.163) |
| 00:53.22 | [JASON] | he left before u say da |
| 00:53.30 | [JASON] | hes back |
| 00:53.36 | *** part/#elive Elive_user21 (n=Elive_us@65.199.205.163) |
| 00:53.40 | LinuxNIT | what partition did you install elive on? |
| 00:53.42 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT! |
| 00:53.46 | LinuxNIT | you get it? |
| 00:53.49 | PrinceAMD | no |
| 00:53.51 | PrinceAMD | o'm on live |
| 00:53.54 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 00:53.58 | LinuxNIT | your in live mode? |
| 00:54.02 | PrinceAMD | yea |
| 00:54.05 | LinuxNIT | what partition did you install elive on? |
| 00:54.06 | PrinceAMD | system not booting |
| 00:54.14 | PrinceAMD | mbr showing me grub> |
| 00:54.18 | LinuxNIT | what partition did you install elive on? |
| 00:54.20 | PrinceAMD | hda2 |
| 00:54.30 | LinuxNIT | and do you have a /boot partition? |
| 00:54.49 | PrinceAMD | yea but the system dont use it |
| 00:54.54 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 00:54.55 | PrinceAMD | that's hda1 |
| 00:55.05 | LinuxNIT | ls /mnt/hda2/boot |
| 00:55.07 | LinuxNIT | show me |
| 00:55.11 | PrinceAMD | hda1 have old config of elive 0.4.2 |
| 00:55.12 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 00:55.59 | PrinceAMD | eliveuser@elive[~]$ ls /mnt/hda2/boot |
| 00:55.59 | PrinceAMD | coffee.bmp debianlilo.bmp memtest System.map-2.6.15 |
| 00:55.59 | PrinceAMD | config-2.6.15 grub sarge.bmp vmlinuz |
| 00:55.59 | PrinceAMD | debian.bmp initrd.img-2.6.15 sid.bmp vmlinuz-2.6.15 |
| 00:56.05 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 00:56.25 | LinuxNIT | grub-install /dev/hda --root-directory=/mnt/hda2 |
| 00:56.30 | LinuxNIT | run that |
| 00:56.42 | LinuxNIT | paste the output in elive-flood |
| 00:56.59 | PrinceAMD | kool |
| 00:57.56 | LinuxNIT | you have 3 hard drives? |
| 00:58.05 | PrinceAMD | yea |
| 00:58.19 | PrinceAMD | 1x20GB 2x80GB |
| 00:58.21 | LinuxNIT | but elive is on hda right |
| 00:58.25 | PrinceAMD | yea |
| 00:58.27 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 00:58.28 | LinuxNIT | reboot |
| 00:58.30 | PrinceAMD | y |
| 00:58.45 | PrinceAMD | if i reboot i'll have to go back in live mode |
| 00:58.45 | LinuxNIT | just makeing sure grub was seeing things right |
| 00:58.46 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 00:58.57 | LinuxNIT | how do you know? |
| 00:58.57 | PrinceAMD | so it fix? |
| 00:59.01 | LinuxNIT | maybe |
| 00:59.03 | LinuxNIT | hopefully |
| 00:59.14 | LinuxNIT | should be |
| 00:59.23 | LinuxNIT | if its not tell me what it says |
| 00:59.28 | PrinceAMD | ok if dont see me in 54sec know it aint work |
| 00:59.37 | LinuxNIT | well come back anyway |
| 01:03.20 | LinuxNIT | well phooey |
| 01:03.24 | LinuxNIT | 3 min |
| 01:03.30 | LinuxNIT | dadgum it whats up with his pc |
| 01:04.42 | *** join/#elive Elive_user17 (n=Elive_us@65.199.205.163) |
| 01:04.49 | LinuxNIT | ok what did it say? |
| 01:04.59 | Elive_user17 | grub> |
| 01:05.10 | Elive_user17 | n i cant type stuff |
| 01:05.16 | LinuxNIT | :o |
| 01:05.19 | Elive_user17 | but i dont know what too |
| 01:05.36 | Elive_user17 | please i dont want to reinstall |
| 01:05.41 | LinuxNIT | i know youdont |
| 01:05.51 | Elive_user17 | :) |
| 01:05.55 | LinuxNIT | i wouldnt either |
| 01:05.56 | Elive_user17 | what to do sir. |
| 01:06.20 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 01:07.15 | LinuxNIT | back up menu.lst |
| 01:07.28 | Elive_user17 | ok |
| 01:07.42 | LinuxNIT | ls /mnt/hda1 |
| 01:08.54 | Elive_user17 | i seeing menu.lst~ |
| 01:09.08 | LinuxNIT | paste it here |
| 01:09.14 | Elive_user17 | y is there a "~" next to it? |
| 01:09.17 | Elive_user17 | ok |
| 01:09.22 | LinuxNIT | means its a backup |
| 01:09.44 | LinuxNIT | root is hda2? |
| 01:10.06 | Elive_user17 | root@elive[/home/eliveuser]# ls /mnt/hda1/ |
| 01:10.06 | Elive_user17 | config-2.6.15 initrd.img-2.6.15 memtest vmlinuz |
| 01:10.06 | Elive_user17 | grub lost+found System.map-2.6.15 vmlinuz-2.6.15 |
| 01:10.20 | Elive_user17 | yep |
| 01:10.22 | LinuxNIT | dosent look like 0.4.2 to me |
| 01:10.28 | LinuxNIT | that looks like 0.5 |
| 01:10.33 | Elive_user17 | yea |
| 01:10.36 | Elive_user17 | hum... |
| 01:10.36 | LinuxNIT | tsk tsk |
| 01:10.40 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 01:10.46 | Elive_user17 | it's a old install though |
| 01:10.47 | LinuxNIT | this just might be the problem |
| 01:10.54 | LinuxNIT | i doubt it |
| 01:10.56 | Elive_user17 | cause the system dont use it |
| 01:11.05 | LinuxNIT | and how do you know |
| 01:11.06 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 01:11.20 | Elive_user17 | cus it uses the menu.lst in hda2 |
| 01:11.33 | LinuxNIT | grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hda1 /dev/hda |
| 01:11.35 | LinuxNIT | run that |
| 01:11.54 | Elive_user17 | yep i did |
| 01:12.05 | LinuxNIT | just now? |
| 01:12.25 | Elive_user17 | when u said too i did |
| 01:12.30 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 01:12.48 | LinuxNIT | did the output look good? |
| 01:13.00 | Elive_user17 | ha ha |
| 01:13.02 | Elive_user17 | i dont know |
| 01:13.06 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 01:13.10 | LinuxNIT | look like last time? |
| 01:13.16 | LinuxNIT | or just paste it in elive-flood |
| 01:13.16 | Elive_user17 | yea |
| 01:13.27 | LinuxNIT | ok try again. :-/ |
| 01:13.36 | Elive_user17 | reboot |
| 01:13.42 | LinuxNIT | yep |
| 01:13.44 | LinuxNIT | gl hf |
| 01:13.46 | Elive_user17 | kool |
| 01:13.47 | LinuxNIT | come back to me |
| 01:13.52 | Elive_user17 | hf!!! |
| 01:13.58 | Elive_user17 | u crazy |
| 01:13.58 | LinuxNIT | hf-have fun |
| 01:13.59 | Elive_user17 | brb |
| 01:13.59 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 01:14.00 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 01:14.06 | Elive_user17 | this aint fun |
| 01:14.13 | LinuxNIT | sorry :( |
| 01:14.18 | Elive_user17 | lo |
| 01:14.29 | LinuxNIT | think of it as... |
| 01:14.32 | LinuxNIT | a learning experiance |
| 01:14.34 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 01:17.48 | *** join/#elive Elive_user1 (n=Elive_us@65.199.205.163) |
| 01:17.55 | LinuxNIT | still no go? |
| 01:18.01 | Elive_user1 | not working |
| 01:18.07 | LinuxNIT | same problem? |
| 01:18.11 | Elive_user1 | yea |
| 01:18.41 | Elive_user1 | what no |
| 01:19.32 | Elive_user1 | what now? |
| 01:19.39 | LinuxNIT | does it not even say error? |
| 01:19.40 | Elive_user1 | linuxNIT: help me please!!!! |
| 01:19.45 | Elive_user1 | nope |
| 01:19.49 | Elive_user1 | just grub> |
| 01:20.22 | LinuxNIT | you are running grub-install as root right? |
| 01:20.28 | Elive_user1 | yea |
| 01:21.20 | LinuxNIT | ls /mnt/hda1/ |
| 01:21.31 | LinuxNIT | ls /mnt/hda1/grub/ |
| 01:21.34 | LinuxNIT | show me |
| 01:21.45 | Elive_user1 | root@elive[/home/eliveuser]# ls /mnt/hda1/grub/ |
| 01:21.45 | Elive_user1 | default fat_stage1_5 minix_stage1_5 stage2 |
| 01:21.45 | Elive_user1 | device.map jfs_stage1_5 reiserfs_stage1_5 xfs_stage1_5 |
| 01:21.46 | Elive_user1 | e2fs_stage1_5 menu.lst stage1 |
| 01:22.08 | LinuxNIT | put the contents of menu.lst in pastebin.ca |
| 01:22.15 | Elive_user1 | ok |
| 01:22.32 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.40 | Elive_user1 | ok |
| 01:24.22 | Elive_user1 | http://pastebin.ca/141606 |
| 01:24.57 | *** join/#elive egrub (n=lilo78@201.250.235.165) |
| 01:27.46 | Elive_user1 | LinuxNIT: geting true |
| 01:29.21 | LinuxNIT | im asking smarter people... :-/ |
| 01:30.04 | Elive_user1 | kool |
| 01:30.46 | [JASON] | yoooooooooo |
| 01:30.48 | [JASON] | sup |
| 01:31.35 | Elive_user1 | jason relax u fuckin self i got big problems here wid grub plus i on de phone wid tracy |
| 01:34.40 | [JASON] | oh i na see no 1 typin |
| 01:35.00 | [JASON] | Elive_user1 = princeamd? |
| 01:35.04 | [JASON] | say so na |
| 01:35.30 | Elive_user1 | shux |
| 01:35.38 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user1, /nick new nick |
| 01:38.48 | [JASON] | Elive_user1:what u do now to get u self into problems |
| 01:39.18 | Elive_user1 | wait on LinuxNIT |
| 01:42.19 | Elive_user1 | LinuxNIT: u gettin trues |
| 01:42.30 | LinuxNIT | trying |
| 01:47.20 | elmo40 | Elive_user1: you still have Grub issues? |
| 01:49.16 | Elive_user1 | elmo48: yea |
| 01:49.43 | Elive_user1 | good |
| 01:49.45 | Elive_user1 | i dah here now |
| 01:49.58 | Elive_user1 | she goin call back so linuxnit hurry |
| 01:50.09 | *** join/#elive LinuxNIT-I (n=LinuxNIT@adsl-70-240-137-33.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) |
| 01:50.16 | Elive_user1 | LinuxNIT: it looks like i'm goin to have to reinstall |
| 01:50.31 | Elive_user1 | LinuxNIT-I: it looks like i'm goin to have to reinstall |
| 01:50.45 | LinuxNIT-I | could be... |
| 01:50.47 | LinuxNIT-I | but you shouldnt |
| 01:50.49 | LinuxNIT-I | grub is being wierd |
| 01:51.05 | LinuxNIT-I | normally that command fixes it all right up for people |
| 01:51.07 | Elive_user1 | is there anyway i can clear the mbr? |
| 01:51.21 | Elive_user1 | i want to clear the mbr |
| 01:51.23 | LinuxNIT-I | fdisk /mbr i THINK |
| 01:51.45 | Elive_user1 | should i back up before? |
| 01:51.58 | LinuxNIT-I | hang on |
| 01:54.37 | LinuxNIT | nm thats for windows |
| 01:55.46 | LinuxNIT | try this |
| 01:55.50 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user1, you here |
| 01:56.18 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user1, ping |
| 01:56.35 | elmo40 | pong |
| 01:56.44 | LinuxNIT | :o |
| 01:56.54 | LinuxNIT | elmo40, you know anything about stupid grub |
| 01:57.05 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user1, come back |
| 01:57.08 | elmo40 | grub is my friend!@! |
| 01:57.26 | LinuxNIT | well hes not mine |
| 01:57.32 | LinuxNIT | at least not right now |
| 01:57.57 | elmo40 | brb, gone drinking!!@! |
| 01:58.08 | elmo40 | use another distro to help ya... MEPIS worked for me!! |
| 01:58.57 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user1, |
| 02:00.25 | LinuxNIT | well cant help if he aint here |
| 02:00.59 | *** join/#elive pales_rider (n=pas@70.44.63.94.res-cmts.spo.ptd.net) |
| 02:04.27 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user1, i got help... but i need YOU to come back |
| 02:04.41 | Elive_user1 | ok |
| 02:04.48 | Elive_user1 | hurry please |
| 02:05.16 | LinuxNIT | ok so |
| 02:05.31 | LinuxNIT | mount -t proc none /mnt/hda2/proc |
| 02:05.45 | LinuxNIT | mount -o bind /dev /mnt/hda2/dev |
| 02:06.07 | LinuxNIT | chroot /mnt/hda2 |
| 02:06.33 | LinuxNIT | grub-install /dev/hda |
| 02:06.57 | LinuxNIT | best i can do :-/ |
| 02:07.07 | LinuxNIT | exit |
| 02:07.07 | Elive_user1 | ok i goin n reboot |
| 02:07.08 | LinuxNIT | reboot |
| 02:07.13 | Elive_user1 | if it aint work |
| 02:07.18 | Elive_user1 | i goin reinstall :( |
| 02:07.19 | Elive_user1 | later |
| 02:07.20 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 02:11.54 | *** join/#elive Deformative (n=joe@c-68-61-240-49.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 02:15.24 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@72.242.51.233) |
| 02:15.40 | Elive_user | ok i stupid question |
| 02:15.52 | LinuxNIT | no such thing |
| 02:16.10 | Deformative | Only stupid people. ~_^ |
| 02:16.21 | Deformative | Just kidding. |
| 02:16.31 | Deformative | I ask a lot of stupid questions myself. |
| 02:16.44 | Elive_user | ok i know i am a stupid person but how do i down load things such as limewire and use them lol |
| 02:16.58 | Elive_user | just switched to elive from xp thank god!!! |
| 02:17.10 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user, elpanel >admin > synaptic |
| 02:17.23 | LinuxNIT | synaptic has thousands of programs you can install |
| 02:17.38 | LinuxNIT | for a p2p program i suggest gtk-gnutella |
| 02:18.15 | LinuxNIT | it searches just about every network. limewire bearshare.... |
| 02:18.30 | Elive_user | hmmmm thats cool |
| 02:18.49 | Deformative | Elive_user, you will learn quickly that with linux nearly everyhing is free and easy to obtain. |
| 02:18.53 | LinuxNIT | btw Elive_user type /nick newnick into xchat |
| 02:19.21 | LinuxNIT | well i gtg.... take good care of him Deformative |
| 02:19.23 | LinuxNIT | bbiab |
| 02:19.26 | Elive_user | yeah i have learned that from just what i have read and what i have used it for its awesome really much faster and more stable |
| 02:19.57 | LinuxNIT | nice nick ;) |
| 02:20.30 | newnick | lol thanks |
| 02:21.00 | Deformative | BE right back. |
| 02:21.06 | Deformative | I need to eat my soup first. |
| 02:21.08 | LinuxNIT | btw to make a permenant nick go to the xchat menu click server settings |
| 02:21.12 | Deformative | I haven't eaten anything in a while. |
| 02:21.14 | LinuxNIT | any i gtg |
| 02:21.19 | LinuxNIT | ill be back soon |
| 02:21.36 | newnick | ok thanks for the info |
| 02:25.12 | Deformative | I'm back. |
| 02:27.47 | Deformative | newnick, you said that elive was stable, this is not true, just to let you know, while yes, it is more stable than windows xp, it is still not concidered stable, it is in heavy development and has many bugs. |
| 02:29.19 | ShadowNinja | sorry Deformative ......u r incorrect |
| 02:29.27 | ShadowNinja | windows xp is very stable |
| 02:29.34 | ShadowNinja | secure....no |
| 02:29.38 | ShadowNinja | stable....yes |
| 02:29.38 | newnick | i see what you are saying |
| 02:29.43 | Deformative | ShadowNinja, that explains fragmentation? |
| 02:29.55 | Deformative | Shadowninja, that explains regestry corruption? |
| 02:30.06 | ShadowNinja | fragmentation has little to do with stable |
| 02:30.08 | Deformative | Shdadowninja, and what about the blue screen of death? |
| 02:30.22 | ShadowNinja | registry corruption is user error 99% of time |
| 02:30.23 | Deformative | A stable filesystem ntfs is not. |
| 02:30.27 | ShadowNinja | lol |
| 02:31.03 | Deformative | Registry corruption is still an instability, and I would say it is caused by viruses far more than user error. |
| 02:31.15 | Deformative | But eh, I am not an expert I suppose. |
| 02:32.19 | ShadowNinja | i don't like the way windows is marketed....it's form over function.... |
| 02:32.49 | Deformative | Why can't my livecd locate the kernel! |
| 02:32.51 | ShadowNinja | sadly..linux tries harder and harder to be similar to windows......as far as desktops these days |
| 02:33.12 | ShadowNinja | i liked it back before there were 10,000 distros |
| 02:33.14 | ShadowNinja | lol |
| 02:33.58 | ShadowNinja | xp is pretty stable though.... |
| 02:34.08 | Deformative | Well, I have not been using linux from before the tons of distros, but I think there is a movement in each directon, one way distros like ubuntu, the other distros like gentoo and freebsd. |
| 02:34.15 | Deformative | Ubuntu is closer to windows. |
| 02:34.24 | Deformative | Oh, and archlinux. <3 |
| 02:34.30 | ShadowNinja | i've had my xp pro desktop since 2004......only locked hard twice |
| 02:34.39 | Deformative | Archlinux is too simple to be anything like windows. |
| 02:34.55 | ShadowNinja | ubuntu is trying uber-hard to be like windows |
| 02:35.06 | ShadowNinja | and so is SLED 10 |
| 02:35.11 | Deformative | ShadowNinja, well you must eather be a windows xp pro, or very lucky. |
| 02:35.15 | Deformative | Few have such luck. |
| 02:35.39 | ShadowNinja | most ppl dont pay any attention to what they install....and most never uninstall anything |
| 02:35.39 | Deformative | <3 KISS philiosiphy. |
| 02:35.54 | ShadowNinja | i use my xp for gaming.movies/music |
| 02:36.22 | ShadowNinja | the funny thing is.....it wasnt even a legit copy until about 4 months ago..... |
| 02:36.54 | Deformative | ShadowNinja, I am not gonna argue with you, I am no expert, I am just saying if I did not reformat at least twice a year my system slowed down segnificantly, and if I did not reformat at least once every 2 years I would prolly get the blue screen of death. |
| 02:38.22 | ShadowNinja | yeah, that used to be the case with win98 an win ME.....but as far as xp.......as long as u dont run as admin.....and use a decent antivirus.....u r good |
| 02:38.39 | ShadowNinja | i do agree with ya on defrag though |
| 02:38.51 | ShadowNinja | i hate waiting for my 280gb to defrag |
| 02:39.19 | Deformative | Well, I did all of the things you said, and I still had the problems you listed, but like you said, I am no windows xp expert. xP |
| 02:39.35 | Deformative | s/you/I |
| 02:41.59 | ShadowNinja | i have been beta-testing win vista on my machine at work....it isnt bad.....but not worth the upgrade |
| 02:42.08 | ShadowNinja | it is more secure |
| 02:42.17 | ShadowNinja | but that's about all u get |
| 02:42.19 | ShadowNinja | lol |
| 02:42.52 | Deformative | And slower. |
| 02:43.09 | ShadowNinja | and oddly enough....it's more secure by forcing ppl not to run as admin.... |
| 02:43.20 | Deformative | All their silly not-up-to-e-standard transparency and whatnot. |
| 02:43.31 | ShadowNinja | it's slower if u have less than 1gb of ram |
| 02:43.39 | ShadowNinja | not bad on a 2gb pc |
| 02:43.52 | ShadowNinja | actually faster than xp with 2gb |
| 02:45.15 | Deformative | Well that is just lovely for the .08% of people with 2gb. =( |
| 02:45.28 | Deformative | I personally liked windows 2k better than xp. |
| 02:45.35 | Deformative | I think windows is going backwards. |
| 02:47.29 | ShadowNinja | yep |
| 02:47.32 | Deformative | This thing keeps failing to find the kernel. |
| 02:47.44 | ShadowNinja | humans r also de-evolving |
| 02:47.54 | Deformative | Mhmm. |
| 02:48.02 | ShadowNinja | reminds me of darwin and the peacock....lol |
| 02:48.31 | Deformative | Doesn't mean software should do the same, I mean, we are becoming more dependent on it. |
| 02:49.01 | ShadowNinja | yep....but ppl r lazier |
| 02:49.10 | ShadowNinja | they wanna click...not type |
| 02:49.16 | ShadowNinja | they actually dont wanna click |
| 02:49.23 | ShadowNinja | they wanna speak and nod |
| 02:49.25 | ShadowNinja | lol |
| 02:49.59 | Deformative | Well, I am not sure if humans are de-evolving now that I think of it, I think they are breaking off into 2 sub-humans. XD One subgroup is de-evolving, the other is evolving. |
| 02:51.01 | ShadowNinja | hmm |
| 02:51.04 | ShadowNinja | good point |
| 02:51.34 | Deformative | Just the group that de-evolves is currently larger. =( |
| 02:55.12 | ShadowNinja | about 80% lol |
| 02:55.36 | ShadowNinja | money and beauty seem to drive de-evolving humans........ |
| 02:56.26 | Deformative | Heh. |
| 02:57.24 | ShadowNinja | the quest for more of either/both |
| 02:57.26 | ShadowNinja | lol |
| 02:57.36 | ShadowNinja | i gave up on my live-cd temporarily |
| 02:57.46 | ShadowNinja | i have class tomorrow at 7:30am |
| 02:58.32 | Deformative | Well, if you start up again, remember to clear the cache, otherwise you will be in a world of trouble. |
| 02:58.42 | Deformative | To clear the cache on archlinux is "pacman -Scc" |
| 02:58.49 | Deformative | I found that out the hard way. |
| 02:59.02 | Deformative | Because hte cache is full of tar.gz files. |
| 02:59.06 | Deformative | And they do not compress. |
| 02:59.06 | ShadowNinja | i was thinking about starting with slack instead of arch |
| 02:59.16 | Deformative | So they make your livecd very very large. |
| 02:59.18 | ShadowNinja | ......arch is complicated |
| 02:59.28 | ShadowNinja | for live cd |
| 02:59.32 | ShadowNinja | anyways |
| 02:59.44 | Deformative | ShadowNinja, arch is simple. =) It follows the KISS principle. |
| 02:59.50 | Deformative | It is just different. |
| 03:00.49 | ShadowNinja | yeah |
| 03:01.00 | ShadowNinja | i've made slack cd's before |
| 03:01.11 | ShadowNinja | they are simple....u just make modules |
| 03:01.52 | Deformative | Hmm. |
| 03:02.29 | Deformative | Maybe I should just make the livecd mannually, I think it is this archie linux script that is causing problems. |
| 03:02.52 | ShadowNinja | good luck |
| 03:03.58 | Deformative | It worked this morning. |
| 03:04.07 | Deformative | But I had problems with something else. |
| 03:04.13 | Deformative | I do not remember what it was. |
| 03:04.21 | Deformative | But I know for sure if found and unpacked the kernel. |
| 03:09.47 | Deformative | ShadowNinja, do you know what modprobe does? |
| 03:10.53 | roxville | <Deformative> I think windows is going backwards. |
| 03:11.09 | ShadowNinja | nope |
| 03:11.12 | roxville | i think the problemwas,that win2k was TOO godd... |
| 03:11.12 | ShadowNinja | never used it |
| 03:11.15 | roxville | good |
| 03:11.21 | Deformative | Haha. |
| 03:11.31 | ShadowNinja | win2k sucked at gaming |
| 03:11.32 | Deformative | Did they stop supporting windows 2k yet? |
| 03:11.32 | ShadowNinja | lol |
| 03:11.38 | ShadowNinja | nope not yet |
| 03:11.38 | ShadowNinja | ' |
| 03:11.42 | ShadowNinja | soon though |
| 03:11.46 | Deformative | =( |
| 03:11.47 | roxville | so they had to make it a little less good... but still callit evolution |
| 03:11.47 | ShadowNinja | next year i think |
| 03:12.24 | Deformative | Awe man, now windows will be the worst opperating system after they stop supporting windows 2k. |
| 03:12.35 | Deformative | I usta think skyos was the worst around. |
| 03:12.53 | roxville | i was never much into gaming... soi wouldn't know |
| 03:12.59 | Deformative | Me eather. |
| 03:13.13 | roxville | besides, when it came out... i was doing macs... |
| 03:13.28 | roxville | lol |
| 03:13.39 | Deformative | Ps3 supposivly has a linux os on it. |
| 03:13.53 | roxville | yes, i think xbox is for gaming too... |
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| 03:14.43 | ShadowNinja | nope xbox is a secret media center |
| 03:14.46 | ShadowNinja | lol\ |
| 03:14.49 | ShadowNinja | or a server |
| 03:14.52 | ShadowNinja | ;) |
| 03:15.18 | roxville | lol |
| 03:16.59 | Deformative | But then again, all these gamers force a market for high level hardware, forcing genteral improvement in pc hardware. |
| 03:17.12 | Deformative | So eh, some good comes from it. |
| 03:17.41 | ShadowNinja | computers r the best at gaming |
| 03:17.47 | ShadowNinja | nothing else compares |
| 03:18.18 | Deformative | ps3 |
| 03:18.29 | ShadowNinja | 7.1 surround on ps3 or xbox360....yeah right |
| 03:18.36 | ShadowNinja | plus $600 for ps3 |
| 03:19.05 | Deformative | ps3 is so good for gaming that it will make a bad pc, and that will be it's downfall in my oppinion, since they are apparently are gonan try to put a desktop on it. |
| 03:19.25 | Deformative | They are even using some new generation of RAM. |
| 03:19.30 | Deformative | I do not know all the details. |
| 03:19.52 | ShadowNinja | ps3 is a sick joke for an idiot who cant use a pc |
| 03:20.08 | roxville | lol |
| 03:20.21 | ShadowNinja | here pay us $600 for an inferior machine that is good for gaming, but sux at everything else |
| 03:20.34 | ShadowNinja | and u cant "patch" or "mod" your games |
| 03:21.00 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.03 | ShadowNinja | and u have to buy a new tv to support 1080dpi |
| 03:21.04 | roxville | :D |
| 03:21.24 | ShadowNinja | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.27 | Deformative | But it is a cheep source of hardware. |
| 03:21.27 | ShadowNinja | lol :P |
| 03:21.33 | roxville | lol |
| 03:21.35 | ShadowNinja | cheap=$600???? |
| 03:21.40 | Deformative | I was thinking about buying one for the case. XD |
| 03:21.48 | roxville | hehe |
| 03:22.16 | Deformative | I mean, the ram in that thing will be valued at like what? Maybe 100 dollars, more? |
| 03:22.30 | Deformative | They accually loose money on their systems. |
| 03:22.38 | Deformative | They only gain any money because of their games. |
| 03:23.15 | ShadowNinja | yep 60$ games=cheap... |
| 03:23.19 | ShadowNinja | lol |
| 03:23.29 | Deformative | Games = overpriced. |
| 03:23.32 | ShadowNinja | no thanx |
| 03:23.36 | Deformative | System = underpiced. |
| 03:23.40 | ShadowNinja | i will stick with pc |
| 03:23.41 | Deformative | That is how they make their money. |
| 03:24.02 | ShadowNinja | yeah right $600 for a console.....fack em |
| 03:24.12 | ShadowNinja | i'd by a nintendo wii first |
| 03:24.21 | ShadowNinja | they r like 299$ |
| 03:24.28 | ShadowNinja | LOL |
| 03:24.34 | Deformative | To build a pc with the capabilities of a xbox would be less than the xbox is valued at, right? |
| 03:24.49 | Deformative | I was thinking about using xbox linux for my pc. |
| 03:24.56 | Deformative | But they have very little ram. |
| 03:24.59 | ShadowNinja | DONT DO IT |
| 03:25.05 | ShadowNinja | lol |
| 03:25.08 | LinuxNIT | you two arent still arguing stability are you? |
| 03:25.16 | ShadowNinja | use xbox linux for xbox |
| 03:25.19 | Deformative | My pc uses the same video board as an xbox. =( |
| 03:25.43 | Deformative | I mean, turn an xbox into a personal computer shadowninja. |
| 03:27.26 | ShadowNinja | oh |
| 03:27.30 | ShadowNinja | good plan |
| 03:27.32 | ShadowNinja | ;) |
| 03:27.49 | ShadowNinja | hack a usb keyboard into a controller plug |
| 03:27.51 | ShadowNinja | :) |
| 03:28.32 | Deformative | Yeah, I know a guy that offered to make one for me. |
| 03:28.47 | ShadowNinja | one good thing about ps3....it shouldnt be hard to emulate on my pc in a few years....lol |
| 03:28.54 | ShadowNinja | gotta love emulation |
| 03:28.56 | ShadowNinja | :) |
| 03:29.08 | Deformative | If I payed for the keyboard and gave him an xbox controller. |
| 03:30.23 | ShadowNinja | sounds fair |
| 03:30.53 | Deformative | Eh, you can just hack a ps3 to be a normal pc, with a snazy case, but someone told me that some part was not very important for gaming but is important for computing so it would make a bad pc, like the cpu or something, I do not remember. |
| 03:31.23 | elmo40 | cpu is kinda slower then 'standard' computers these days |
| 03:31.45 | ShadowNinja | kinda?? lol |
| 03:32.02 | ShadowNinja | wayyyyyyyyyyy slower than any decent computer..... |
| 03:32.18 | elmo40 | i was trying to be fair to all those Dell boxes ;) |
| 03:32.27 | ShadowNinja | and how about 10-20 times slower than core 2 duo intels |
| 03:32.34 | Deformative | Yeah. |
| 03:32.38 | Deformative | That is the problem. |
| 03:32.40 | ShadowNinja | dell... |
| 03:32.53 | ShadowNinja | dude you're getting burned |
| 03:32.53 | Deformative | But all the rest of the hardware on that machine is top of the libe. |
| 03:32.56 | ShadowNinja | lol |
| 03:33.03 | Deformative | line* |
| 03:33.24 | Deformative | OH MY GOSH! |
| 03:33.24 | elmo40 | those damn libs |
| 03:33.40 | Deformative | I forgot to modprob! No wonder it wasn't finding the kernel. |
| 03:33.46 | Deformative | Now, maybe it will work this time. |
| 03:34.03 | elmo40 | d'oh!! |
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| 03:39.00 | Deformative | Ugh. |
| 03:39.07 | Deformative | squashfs takes so long. |
| 03:39.09 | Deformative | =( |
| 03:39.19 | Deformative | It would be better to just put it on a dvd full size. |
| 03:39.32 | Deformative | It would scan faster AND no decompressing times. |
| 03:39.38 | Deformative | But dvds are so damn expensive. |
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| 03:44.28 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT: hey sup |
| 03:44.33 | LinuxNIT | sup |
| 03:44.37 | LinuxNIT | get it fixed? |
| 03:44.37 | elmo40 | expensive?? how so? |
| 03:45.55 | Deformative | elmo40, I can get like 50 cds for free. |
| 03:46.02 | Deformative | I can get like dvds for 50 cents each. |
| 03:46.03 | Deformative | =( |
| 03:46.09 | elmo40 | 50 cents? |
| 03:46.12 | elmo40 | that is expensive!! |
| 03:46.17 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:46.20 | PrinceAMD | PrinceAMD: i had to reinstall |
| 03:46.22 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD, howd it go? |
| 03:46.27 | roxville | g'night guys...i gotta take my wife to work in the morning, she starts at 7am, so... |
| 03:46.28 | Deformative | How much do you pay elmo40? |
| 03:46.29 | LinuxNIT | sorry :( |
| 03:46.33 | LinuxNIT | roxville, |
| 03:46.40 | Deformative | Bai roxville. |
| 03:46.40 | roxville | maybe tomorrow i'll have more time |
| 03:46.41 | LinuxNIT | did you see what i said about the them? |
| 03:46.46 | LinuxNIT | *theme |
| 03:46.49 | PrinceAMD | well we fixed one problem no more ctrl+D |
| 03:46.55 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:47.00 | LinuxNIT | pick up some more? |
| 03:47.01 | elmo40 | Deformative: they sell 100 packs for $30 |
| 03:47.11 | PrinceAMD | nope |
| 03:47.16 | LinuxNIT | good |
| 03:47.27 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD, did you remove the boot partition? |
| 03:47.34 | PrinceAMD | yep |
| 03:47.38 | LinuxNIT | k |
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| 03:48.13 | Deformative | elmo40, that is like 33 cents each, that is about right since I buy like 2 dvds at a time. |
| 03:48.14 | Deformative | Lol. |
| 03:48.21 | elmo40 | ;) |
| 03:48.22 | Deformative | But I get cds for free all the time. |
| 03:48.35 | Deformative | And I get jewel cases for free all the time. |
| 03:48.45 | Deformative | So even 33 cents seems expensive. |
| 03:48.54 | ShadowNinja | did some1 say $0.50 was expensive? |
| 03:49.00 | ShadowNinja | lol |
| 03:49.20 | ShadowNinja | i could find that in my couch.....about 10 times over |
| 03:49.21 | Deformative | Me. |
| 03:49.33 | Deformative | Concidering how many I would need to test. |
| 03:49.40 | Deformative | I mean I already went through cds. |
| 03:49.42 | ShadowNinja | buy RW's |
| 03:49.43 | PrinceAMD | where i live $1US = $200 local :( |
| 03:49.53 | ShadowNinja | WHAT!?!?!? |
| 03:49.57 | elmo40 | PrinceAMD: where?? |
| 03:50.02 | PrinceAMD | Guyana |
| 03:50.07 | Deformative | ShadowNinja, I do not like rws. |
| 03:50.23 | ShadowNinja | use RW's for testing ;) |
| 03:50.24 | Deformative | Buying a rw is like putting linux on ntfs. |
| 03:50.29 | elmo40 | lol |
| 03:50.30 | LinuxNIT | rws suck for booting |
| 03:50.30 | ShadowNinja | LOL |
| 03:50.32 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 03:50.48 | ShadowNinja | nah...i use em |
| 03:50.54 | LinuxNIT | ive always had trouble booting a rw |
| 03:51.00 | PrinceAMD | hey can i put linux on my flash disk? |
| 03:51.06 | LinuxNIT | maby my dad bought crappy ones |
| 03:51.14 | ShadowNinja | i've installed damn near every OS in the past 3 years with RW |
| 03:51.19 | LinuxNIT | sure... but i dont think itll boot |
| 03:51.20 | ShadowNinja | yep |
| 03:51.29 | PrinceAMD | uuhh |
| 03:51.31 | ShadowNinja | u can make it bootable |
| 03:51.41 | PrinceAMD | well it work? |
| 03:52.01 | ShadowNinja | yeah...just do research on making usb bootable |
| 03:52.04 | PrinceAMD | has anyone of u guys tested it before |
| 03:52.05 | Deformative | LinuxNIT, well I dont know what a flash disk is, but I know you can boot off of usb. |
| 03:52.12 | ShadowNinja | an make sure your bios supports it |
| 03:52.29 | LinuxNIT | Deformative, flash disk/usb disk |
| 03:52.33 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 03:52.37 | Deformative | ShadowNinja, bios doesn't need to support. |
| 03:52.44 | LinuxNIT | i just didnt think elive supported booting to a usb drive |
| 03:52.47 | Deformative | You just make a boot disk floppy. |
| 03:52.47 | LinuxNIT | buti could be wrong |
| 03:52.52 | PrinceAMD | Deformative: yea it does |
| 03:52.57 | ShadowNinja | .....it is just better if it does.... |
| 03:53.03 | Deformative | You can boot anything on usb with a boot disk. |
| 03:53.12 | ShadowNinja | floppy? |
| 03:53.17 | PrinceAMD | ohh.. BOOT DISK! |
| 03:53.23 | ShadowNinja | people still have floppy drives? |
| 03:53.27 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 03:53.28 | LinuxNIT | Deformative, still uses 3.5 in floopies |
| 03:53.32 | PrinceAMD | i wonder |
| 03:53.47 | ShadowNinja | i haven't had a floppy drive since 2001 |
| 03:53.51 | ShadowNinja | lol |
| 03:53.52 | PrinceAMD | i took it out to put in a hard drive :D |
| 03:54.01 | LinuxNIT | actually my laptop came with a swapable dvd/floppy drive |
| 03:54.01 | PrinceAMD | lol that's long |
| 03:54.15 | Deformative | I am still in 1997. |
| 03:54.15 | PrinceAMD | nice! |
| 03:54.16 | LinuxNIT | but i bought it used off ebay too |
| 03:54.22 | LinuxNIT | Deformative, we know |
| 03:54.26 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 03:54.29 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 03:54.46 | Deformative | 1997, Software was nice back then. |
| 03:54.56 | ShadowNinja | i remember windows 3.11 came on 5 floppies |
| 03:55.00 | LinuxNIT | yeah windows 95 ruled |
| 03:55.02 | Deformative | Even windows was nice back then. |
| 03:55.06 | ShadowNinja | lol ;) |
| 03:55.18 | Deformative | I was 6. |
| 03:55.18 | LinuxNIT | windows 3.1 lmfao now that was old |
| 03:55.20 | Deformative | XD |
| 03:55.20 | PrinceAMD | Windows 98 se |
| 03:55.23 | LinuxNIT | i used that for a while |
| 03:55.36 | ShadowNinja | i like windows 3.1 |
| 03:55.46 | ShadowNinja | i still emulate it once in a while |
| 03:55.46 | LinuxNIT | worked better than 95 |
| 03:55.48 | PrinceAMD | go in windows folder n delete win.exe :) |
| 03:55.49 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:55.51 | ShadowNinja | just for nostalgia |
| 03:55.57 | ShadowNinja | lol |
| 03:56.14 | ShadowNinja | windows 3.1 icons r still in use with todays windows |
| 03:56.15 | Deformative | <3 Floppies. |
| 03:56.29 | ShadowNinja | lots of sytem icons r 3.1 icons |
| 03:56.33 | ShadowNinja | lol |
| 03:56.54 | Deformative | Always remember the KISS principle. |
| 03:57.02 | Deformative | One thing I do not like about E, modules. |
| 03:57.08 | PrinceAMD | i always wonder who createdd the first linux distro? |
| 03:57.09 | elmo40 | keep is simple smartASS |
| 03:57.09 | Deformative | Ugh, I hate those things more than I can explain. |
| 03:57.31 | ShadowNinja | one thing i dont like about E.....where the hell is E17.0? LOL |
| 03:58.01 | Mutacion | somebody has ever had a.. Power Mac G3/233 AIO ? |
| 03:58.21 | Deformative | E17.0 is not for us, raster makes decisions, I mean, he gives us this great software for free, the least we can do is let him work at his own pace. |
| 03:58.48 | Deformative | Still can not find kernel. |
| 03:59.14 | LinuxNIT | Deformative, did you install one? |
| 03:59.16 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 03:59.25 | ShadowNinja | i know....i just hate cvs |
| 03:59.27 | ShadowNinja | lol' |
| 03:59.53 | Deformative | LinuxNIT, it worked this morning.... |
| 04:00.01 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 04:00.11 | LinuxNIT | well i was teasing anyway ;) |
| 04:00.28 | Deformative | But It couldnt get past busybox this morning. |
| 04:00.42 | Deformative | I fixed that, but now something went wrong where i can not get past the kernel. |
| 04:01.53 | PrinceAMD | Deformative: are u on gentoo still? |
| 04:02.04 | Deformative | I was on gentoo? |
| 04:02.13 | ShadowNinja | he was on gentoo? |
| 04:02.19 | ShadowNinja | :p |
| 04:02.21 | PrinceAMD | who was on gentoo? |
| 04:02.31 | ShadowNinja | were u on gentoo? |
| 04:02.34 | Deformative | Not I, I am archlinux all the way. |
| 04:02.40 | LinuxNIT | i was on gentoo |
| 04:02.43 | ShadowNinja | i took two gentoo an called the doc |
| 04:02.45 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 04:02.48 | *** join/#elive salah (n=salah@216-30-75.0505.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 04:02.52 | LinuxNIT | keyword there |
| 04:02.54 | LinuxNIT | was |
| 04:02.55 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 04:03.02 | PrinceAMD | :was |
| 04:03.09 | ShadowNinja | at least it's not crack |
| 04:03.11 | ShadowNinja | lol |
| 04:03.13 | ShadowNinja | :D |
| 04:03.20 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:03.24 | Deformative | LinuxNIT, archlinux is your next distro to try out? =) |
| 04:03.34 | LinuxNIT | Deformative, actually yes |
| 04:03.38 | LinuxNIT | i already downloaded it |
| 04:03.40 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 04:03.40 | Deformative | ! |
| 04:03.58 | LinuxNIT | its going to replace source mage |
| 04:04.01 | LinuxNIT | source mages is shit |
| 04:04.11 | ShadowNinja | sabayon....is based on gentoo...yet somehow easier to use... |
| 04:04.21 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:04.24 | Deformative | If you need someone to hold your hand for installation I can do that. |
| 04:05.01 | Deformative | I already installed 5 times on this damn livecd partition. |
| 04:05.01 | ShadowNinja | lol |
| 04:05.20 | LinuxNIT | for archlinux? |
| 04:05.26 | LinuxNIT | its that bad of a install? |
| 04:05.29 | LinuxNIT | grrrrrrr |
| 04:05.34 | Deformative | No. |
| 04:05.37 | LinuxNIT | why cant source distros be simple to install |
| 04:05.40 | ShadowNinja | i use slackware for desktop.....suse for laptop |
| 04:05.41 | Deformative | But there are some steps that many people miss. |
| 04:05.55 | Deformative | The system configuration, people always miss steps there. |
| 04:06.19 | Deformative | Like to make the eth0 dhcp |
| 04:06.22 | Deformative | People miss that. |
| 04:06.30 | LinuxNIT | meh i dont do that normally |
| 04:06.34 | LinuxNIT | its irritating |
| 04:06.43 | ShadowNinja | i do that after install |
| 04:06.46 | LinuxNIT | boot up and it hunts for an ip |
| 04:06.46 | ShadowNinja | .... |
| 04:06.56 | Deformative | Like to give your system a hostname, people always forget that step. |
| 04:06.57 | LinuxNIT | im on a laptop for goodness sake |
| 04:07.13 | LinuxNIT | im not connected to a cable half the time |
| 04:07.26 | LinuxNIT | errr 90% of the time |
| 04:07.34 | PrinceAMD | PrinceAMD = cable guy |
| 04:07.44 | Deformative | LinuxNIT, installation is EASY, you can just just hit enter over and over to make it work. |
| 04:07.49 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD, try /me = cable guy |
| 04:07.55 | LinuxNIT | Deformative, lol |
| 04:08.01 | ShadowNinja | well....my time here is done....i must get sleep before my 7:30 calc. professor drives me crazy |
| 04:08.10 | LinuxNIT | later ShadowNinja |
| 04:08.13 | ShadowNinja | peace |
| 04:08.17 | Deformative | LinuxNIT, trust me, it is no where near as hard as gentoo. |
| 04:08.19 | PrinceAMD | :D |
| 04:08.23 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 04:08.25 | LinuxNIT | Deformative, k |
| 04:08.33 | LinuxNIT | is there a how to? |
| 04:08.56 | Deformative | Yes, but it doesn't emphesise anything. |
| 04:08.56 | LinuxNIT | so i dont miss steps that i dont intend to skip |
| 04:08.57 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 04:09.13 | LinuxNIT | i intende to skip the dhcp :D |
| 04:09.22 | Deformative | Hehe. |
| 04:09.50 | LinuxNIT | makes boot time like 30% longer if it cant find an ip |
| 04:09.53 | LinuxNIT | annoying |
| 04:10.03 | Deformative | The howto says "Make alterations to the files under configure system" or something like that, but it doesn't say what configurations are nesasary. |
| 04:10.16 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:10.31 | PrinceAMD | hum |
| 04:10.52 | Deformative | LinuxNIT, well, you just alter the rc.conf file for that part, you set eth0 to whatever you want, I personally set it to dhcp, and I do not know whatelse to set it to. |
| 04:10.53 | PrinceAMD | suse or fedora? which would u guys pick? |
| 04:11.06 | Deformative | Fedora... =/ |
| 04:11.11 | LinuxNIT | suse |
| 04:11.16 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:11.24 | LinuxNIT | fedora always gave me trouble |
| 04:11.32 | Deformative | Suse and fedora are both distros that try to be redhat. |
| 04:11.32 | LinuxNIT | always missing some driver |
| 04:11.48 | LinuxNIT | ummm red hat moved to fc |
| 04:11.59 | Deformative | Really\ |
| 04:12.01 | Deformative | Oh. |
| 04:12.03 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:12.08 | Deformative | Well then suse tries to be fredora. |
| 04:12.13 | Deformative | You can even check their forums. |
| 04:12.19 | LinuxNIT | and suse does a better job of it |
| 04:12.21 | LinuxNIT | imho |
| 04:12.25 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:12.27 | Deformative | Every choice they make is the same as what fedora does. |
| 04:12.34 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 04:12.35 | LinuxNIT | but theirs work |
| 04:12.38 | *** join/#elive [JASON] (i=[JASON]@208.153.97.107) |
| 04:12.43 | Deformative | Red hat switches to gnome as default. |
| 04:12.47 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 04:12.55 | Deformative | Suse switches gnome to default. |
| 04:12.56 | LinuxNIT | suse went to gnome? |
| 04:13.00 | Deformative | Yes. |
| 04:13.03 | LinuxNIT | wierd |
| 04:13.04 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:13.08 | Deformative | I know. |
| 04:13.09 | PrinceAMD | yep |
| 04:13.13 | LinuxNIT | kinda freaky |
| 04:13.19 | LinuxNIT | suse/gnome.... dont mix |
| 04:13.20 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:13.22 | Deformative | I know. |
| 04:13.32 | Deformative | That is why I said fc. |
| 04:13.34 | LinuxNIT | mental pic is wierd |
| 04:13.49 | PrinceAMD | mandriva or debian? which would u guys pick? |
| 04:13.53 | LinuxNIT | meh id still choose suse though.... cause i never had trouble with it working like i did fc |
| 04:13.54 | Deformative | Debian. |
| 04:13.56 | LinuxNIT | debian |
| 04:13.57 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 04:14.00 | LinuxNIT | yay we agree |
| 04:14.03 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 04:14.11 | LinuxNIT | id choose debian over any distro any day |
| 04:14.15 | Deformative | Hehe. |
| 04:14.16 | PrinceAMD | niceness |
| 04:14.28 | LinuxNIT | partly why i love elive |
| 04:14.28 | Deformative | Debian<Freebsd<Archlinux |
| 04:14.38 | PrinceAMD | elive or arch? |
| 04:14.40 | LinuxNIT | its full debian repos |
| 04:14.43 | Deformative | Arch. |
| 04:14.47 | *** part/#elive [JASON] (i=[JASON]@208.153.97.107) |
| 04:14.52 | LinuxNIT | never used arch but i bet id choose elive |
| 04:14.55 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 04:15.00 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 04:15.14 | LinuxNIT | something nice about apt/synaptic |
| 04:15.16 | Deformative | I would like elive if it was i686 optimised. |
| 04:15.19 | PrinceAMD | ubuntu or gentoo? |
| 04:15.25 | LinuxNIT | gentoo |
| 04:15.25 | Deformative | Ubuntu./ |
| 04:15.31 | LinuxNIT | cant fucking stand ubuntu |
| 04:15.32 | PrinceAMD | what? |
| 04:15.32 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:15.35 | Deformative | Because the gentoo ops are five. |
| 04:15.38 | LinuxNIT | drives me up the wall |
| 04:15.47 | PrinceAMD | me too |
| 04:16.04 | Deformative | They baned me for telling a user that gentoo was not a good first distro. |
| 04:16.05 | PrinceAMD | i cant stand gentoo too cus of the installation |
| 04:16.17 | LinuxNIT | true install sucks |
| 04:16.49 | LinuxNIT | Deformative, youknow you can compile your own kernel for elive to optimize for 686 right? |
| 04:16.50 | Deformative | But I suppose that gentoo is good for a windows user. That way they can continue to use windows. Quit linux all together after that experience. |
| 04:17.00 | Deformative | LinuxNIT, So what? |
| 04:17.05 | Deformative | What about the packages? |
| 04:17.16 | Deformative | I am not gonna compile every damn package. |
| 04:17.20 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:17.20 | Deformative | Then I am in gentoo. |
| 04:17.32 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT: i will |
| 04:17.42 | PrinceAMD | is i686 = 64bit? |
| 04:17.52 | LinuxNIT | arch has a repo of pacakges all optimized for 686? |
| 04:17.54 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD, no |
| 04:18.13 | Deformative | Yes. |
| 04:18.15 | LinuxNIT | nice |
| 04:18.20 | Deformative | Everything arch is i686, |
| 04:18.24 | LinuxNIT | ah |
| 04:18.34 | Deformative | Every repo. |
| 04:18.38 | LinuxNIT | so if you arent 686 youre screwed? |
| 04:18.39 | PrinceAMD | what is i686 :( |
| 04:18.43 | LinuxNIT | for optimization |
| 04:18.56 | Deformative | LinuxNIT, if you are not 686 you go use debian or freebsd. |
| 04:18.57 | LinuxNIT | intel pentium 3 and up i blelieve |
| 04:18.59 | Deformative | Lol. |
| 04:19.01 | Deformative | 2 |
| 04:19.07 | Deformative | Pentium 2 and up I think. |
| 04:19.08 | LinuxNIT | 2 and up? |
| 04:19.10 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 04:19.17 | Deformative | 85% sure. |
| 04:19.33 | PrinceAMD | ok.. |
| 04:19.46 | Deformative | All AMDs are i686 |
| 04:19.54 | PrinceAMD | what about amd? they are like i969 :) |
| 04:19.59 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 04:20.06 | LinuxNIT | i thought amd was like k7 k8? |
| 04:20.14 | PrinceAMD | oh... |
| 04:20.24 | Deformative | That is like a subcatogory I believe. |
| 04:20.40 | Deformative | BEcause I have a k7 and all i686 packages work. |
| 04:21.00 | PrinceAMD | it should work |
| 04:21.23 | Deformative | LinuxNIT, also I would like elive if it had rolling releases. |
| 04:21.24 | PrinceAMD | yes but see2 is missing form the amd cpu so it might run abit slower |
| 04:21.36 | Deformative | Needing to reinstall to get the next release is not for me. |
| 04:22.00 | Deformative | With archlinux you type in pacman -Syu and you suddenly have the next release. |
| 04:22.38 | PrinceAMD | Deformative: do u know if the next one would be rolling |
| 04:22.38 | PrinceAMD | nice |
| 04:22.52 | LinuxNIT | according to ##linux athlons pentiums and celerons are 686 just not 64bit cpus |
| 04:23.10 | Deformative | Yeah. |
| 04:23.28 | Deformative | But pentium I is i586. |
| 04:23.28 | LinuxNIT | err and minux 64bit |
| 04:23.42 | LinuxNIT | wtf |
| 04:23.50 | LinuxNIT | amd minus 64bit |
| 04:23.51 | LinuxNIT | there |
| 04:23.57 | Deformative | Yeah. |
| 04:24.08 | Deformative | I forgot to mention that 64 are not i686. |
| 04:24.26 | PrinceAMD | thankx for that bit of info |
| 04:24.36 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 04:24.55 | *** join/#elive Elive_user58 (n=Elive_us@c90631e2.virtua.com.br) |
| 04:24.56 | PrinceAMD | i run suse 10 64bit once worked well for a few min... rpm killed me |
| 04:24.57 | Deformative | My pc is so old. |
| 04:25.04 | PrinceAMD | how old? |
| 04:25.15 | Deformative | 5 years. |
| 04:25.23 | PrinceAMD | damn |
| 04:25.31 | PrinceAMD | i kill atleast 2 pc a year |
| 04:25.43 | Deformative | Heh. |
| 04:25.44 | LinuxNIT | wtf |
| 04:25.46 | LinuxNIT | how? |
| 04:25.50 | Deformative | I am stingy. |
| 04:25.59 | PrinceAMD | overclock..... |
| 04:26.04 | LinuxNIT | ive had my desktop for 2yrs and bought it use |
| 04:26.04 | Deformative | I don't buy a new pc unless it is absolutely nessasary. |
| 04:26.06 | LinuxNIT | d |
| 04:26.07 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:26.13 | LinuxNIT | well what do you expect |
| 04:26.17 | Deformative | PrinceAMD, why not just get a new cpu? |
| 04:26.23 | LinuxNIT | just buy a faster cpu and let it last longer |
| 04:26.32 | PrinceAMD | Deformative: dont need too |
| 04:26.33 | Deformative | No. |
| 04:26.38 | PrinceAMD | this one is pretty new |
| 04:26.43 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:26.49 | Deformative | I will take your old pc. |
| 04:26.50 | LinuxNIT | but you overclock it and fry it |
| 04:26.55 | PrinceAMD | just the mainboard i fuck up |
| 04:27.08 | Deformative | The ones with the fried cpus, I can just replace the cpu, perfectly good computer. |
| 04:27.28 | LinuxNIT | Deformative, shhhhhh |
| 04:27.30 | PrinceAMD | Deformative: u gatto be kiddin me |
| 04:27.38 | LinuxNIT | tell him that after he gives it to you |
| 04:27.42 | PrinceAMD | Deformative: my job is to fix pc i know what i do :0 |
| 04:27.46 | Deformative | OH SHYTE! |
| 04:28.07 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD, how old are you? |
| 04:28.11 | PrinceAMD | 17 |
| 04:28.26 | LinuxNIT | ... |
| 04:28.27 | PrinceAMD | started fixin pc at age 12 |
| 04:28.35 | Deformative | If your processor fried you just replace the cpu... |
| 04:28.37 | LinuxNIT | when did you start linux? |
| 04:28.43 | Deformative | Sometimes the board too. |
| 04:28.46 | PrinceAMD | last year |
| 04:28.59 | PrinceAMD | linux is pretty new to me |
| 04:29.03 | Deformative | I started linux 2 months ago. |
| 04:29.04 | PrinceAMD | this is the first i love |
| 04:29.05 | Deformative | =) |
| 04:29.22 | PrinceAMD | Deformative: i stuggled with mine.. |
| 04:29.23 | Deformative | I learn fast. |
| 04:29.27 | PrinceAMD | not really |
| 04:29.38 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:29.38 | Deformative | But I piss a lot of people off in the prossess. |
| 04:29.44 | Deformative | Asking too many questions. |
| 04:29.44 | LinuxNIT | apparently |
| 04:29.50 | PrinceAMD | i got a wife n kids to look after yah know |
| 04:30.00 | LinuxNIT | :o |
| 04:30.04 | LinuxNIT | at 17? |
| 04:30.12 | LinuxNIT | :o |
| 04:30.26 | PrinceAMD | i'm not that crazy :) |
| 04:30.26 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD, /nick kidding |
| 04:30.37 | LinuxNIT | actually... i think you are. |
| 04:30.39 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 04:30.42 | LinuxNIT | ty |
| 04:30.42 | kidding | lol |
| 04:31.04 | Deformative | Hmm. |
| 04:32.04 | Deformative | I am clueless why any of out of the box distros are not i686 optimised. |
| 04:32.17 | Deformative | I mean they are all i386. |
| 04:32.25 | LinuxNIT | for old hardware |
| 04:32.31 | Deformative | Ubuntu for example. |
| 04:32.39 | LinuxNIT | thats why debian default kernel is 2.4.x |
| 04:32.40 | Deformative | You can not run gnome on i386 |
| 04:32.43 | PrinceAMD | Deformative: linux tries to run on any system to get popularity |
| 04:32.58 | Deformative | But yet it is i386 optimised. |
| 04:33.05 | LinuxNIT | on debian to get the 2.6 kernel you have to boot with linux26 |
| 04:33.11 | LinuxNIT | its all for old hardware |
| 04:33.19 | Deformative | EVEN THOUGH THE SOFTWARE IS TOO RESOURCE DEPENDENT TO RUN ON i386 |
| 04:33.27 | LinuxNIT | no its not |
| 04:33.38 | LinuxNIT | you can run on 386 |
| 04:33.46 | LinuxNIT | just not some things |
| 04:33.51 | Deformative | Gnome, you are kidding me. |
| 04:33.53 | Deformative | Alright. |
| 04:34.03 | LinuxNIT | gnome maybe not |
| 04:34.05 | Deformative | You can not run ubuntu on an i386 prossessor. |
| 04:34.08 | LinuxNIT | fluxbox yeah |
| 04:34.09 | Deformative | That is what I am saying. |
| 04:34.18 | LinuxNIT | i dunno maybe you can |
| 04:34.22 | LinuxNIT | i havent tried it |
| 04:34.26 | Deformative | Ubuntu is i386 optimised even though it can not run on that hardware. |
| 04:34.34 | LinuxNIT | go ask ubuntu |
| 04:34.43 | LinuxNIT | apt ubuntu |
| 04:34.45 | apt | hmm... ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ and/or visit #ubuntu, on irc.freenode.net. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 04:34.45 | Deformative | Well elive is the same way. |
| 04:34.59 | LinuxNIT | elive wants to run on old hw |
| 04:35.33 | Deformative | Alrigth, there is no possible way to run elive on my old pc, my old pc is i586, and it has trouble with running windows 98. |
| 04:36.01 | PrinceAMD | lol damn |
| 04:36.07 | PrinceAMD | how fast is the cpu |
| 04:36.17 | LinuxNIT | umm windows 98 sucks |
| 04:36.21 | Deformative | I bet with an i386 you can not even boot a livecd. |
| 04:36.30 | LinuxNIT | try dsl |
| 04:36.31 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 04:36.35 | Deformative | The cpu is 133mhz |
| 04:36.52 | LinuxNIT | what is the fastest 386 gets? |
| 04:37.02 | Deformative | I dunno, but I bet it is low. |
| 04:37.10 | LinuxNIT | well yeah |
| 04:37.12 | Deformative | One sec, I will google pentium 386 |
| 04:37.14 | LinuxNIT | speaking of which |
| 04:37.16 | PrinceAMD | Deformative: my first pc was intel pentium 1 MMX 133mhz |
| 04:37.28 | LinuxNIT | my dad used to have a laptop |
| 04:37.37 | LinuxNIT | and when you boooted it it said |
| 04:37.53 | LinuxNIT | "cpu speed: very fast" |
| 04:37.55 | LinuxNIT | lmfao |
| 04:38.17 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 04:39.16 | Deformative | February 1987 |
| 04:39.16 | Deformative | Name of Processor: 386 |
| 04:39.17 | Deformative | Clock speed: 20 MHz |
| 04:39.17 | Deformative | Number of transistors: 275,000 |
| 04:39.37 | Deformative | You are telling me 20mhz can run elive? |
| 04:39.38 | PrinceAMD | xD |
| 04:39.39 | Deformative | I think not. |
| 04:39.51 | PrinceAMD | i know i cant |
| 04:39.57 | LinuxNIT | Deformative, youre twisting my words |
| 04:40.02 | PrinceAMD | that shit aint even got a gpu :D |
| 04:40.06 | Deformative | Hehe. |
| 04:40.07 | LinuxNIT | one that is not the fastest 386 |
| 04:40.16 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 04:40.18 | LinuxNIT | 2 i never said you can run elive onall 386 |
| 04:40.25 | Deformative | Find a faster one. |
| 04:40.37 | LinuxNIT | 3 i said i dont know if it would run or not cause i never tried it |
| 04:40.43 | PrinceAMD | 266 should be the fastest |
| 04:41.02 | LinuxNIT | 4 lay off dude |
| 04:41.09 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 04:41.15 | Deformative | Lol. |
| 04:41.32 | Deformative | I accually do think that 20mhz IS the fastest pentium 386. |
| 04:41.53 | Deformative | Sorry linuxNIT. |
| 04:41.56 | Deformative | I willl stop now. |
| 04:42.02 | PrinceAMD | brb |
| 04:42.42 | *** join/#elive PrinceAMD (n=PrinceAM@65.199.205.163) |
| 04:43.02 | PrinceAMD | back |
| 04:43.08 | *** join/#elive revduhjenk (n=revdjenk@pool-71-116-41-230.eriepa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 04:43.11 | Deformative | Never mind, I found one that is 25mhz. |
| 04:45.46 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 04:47.52 | Deformative | Sorry LinuxNIT, I was not trying to be mean, it's just that the lowest prossessor Enlighenment has been proven to work on is 133mhz (pretty sure, unless someone got it to work lower recently), that is what I was trying to get at. |
| 04:48.53 | LinuxNIT | ill forgive you.... i just dont appreciate people putting words im my mouth. |
| 04:49.42 | PrinceAMD | hey 20mhz overclock to 133mhz can run elive :) |
| 04:50.38 | Deformative | Haha, but the ram on that system would not be sufficiant. |
| 04:50.58 | PrinceAMD | damn! |
| 04:51.27 | Deformative | I do not think it would even have enough hard disk space, eh whatever. |
| 04:51.55 | PrinceAMD | Deformative: drop it now! |
| 04:52.23 | Deformative | "<PrinceAMD> hey 20mhz overclock to 133mhz can run elive :) " |
| 04:52.35 | Deformative | It was dropped untill then, but nevermind. |
| 04:52.46 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 04:52.53 | Deformative | Lol. |
| 04:53.50 | Deformative | Hmm. |
| 04:53.54 | Deformative | Still doesn't work. |
| 04:53.59 | Deformative | Even with the modprobe step.. |
| 04:54.58 | PrinceAMD | apt:slap Deformative |
| 04:54.59 | apt | ACTION slaps Deformative, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 04:55.15 | PrinceAMD | now keep quiet :D |
| 04:55.18 | Deformative | o.o |
| 04:55.38 | Deformative | XD |
| 04:55.43 | PrinceAMD | XD |
| 04:56.21 | PrinceAMD | hey u got a website? |
| 04:56.35 | *** join/#elive revdjuhenk (n=revdjenk@pool-71-116-41-230.eriepa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 04:56.50 | Deformative | Well, I have a website in the making. |
| 04:56.59 | PrinceAMD | kool |
| 04:57.01 | Deformative | I am just making the css stylesheet right now. |
| 04:57.05 | PrinceAMD | maybe i should create one |
| 04:57.12 | PrinceAMD | but what would i put on it???? |
| 04:57.21 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 04:57.38 | Deformative | After I finish the stylesheet I am gonna get it hosted on a better webhost. |
| 04:57.51 | Deformative | My current webhost is like the worst one around. |
| 04:58.04 | Deformative | aonservers looks pretty nice. |
| 04:58.17 | Deformative | But you need to post on their forums all the time in order to get hosting. |
| 04:58.29 | Deformative | If you don't they take away your website. |
| 04:59.20 | PrinceAMD | what is that site |
| 04:59.32 | PrinceAMD | i want to take a look |
| 04:59.34 | Deformative | aonservers.com I thinik? |
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| 05:01.49 | Deformative | =/ |
| 05:01.58 | Deformative | I do not want to make the cd manually. |
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| 05:03.12 | PrinceAMD | Deformative: k3b can burn it |
| 05:03.28 | Deformative | It's not burning the iso. |
| 05:03.35 | Deformative | The problem is making the iso. |
| 05:04.07 | PrinceAMD | oh |
| 05:04.15 | PrinceAMD | cant help u there |
| 05:04.33 | PrinceAMD | wine ultra iso :D |
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| 05:10.05 | [1]revdjenk | LinuxNIT, I am on the dark side using a new irc client which is goofing my nick!!1 |
| 05:10.20 | LinuxNIT | [1]revdjenk, get xchat |
| 05:10.23 | [1]revdjenk | sorry, it won't let me in private with you |
| 05:10.37 | [1]revdjenk | tried xchat2, won't run on this machine |
| 05:10.41 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 05:10.49 | LinuxNIT | sucks |
| 05:10.53 | [1]revdjenk | its free version |
| 05:10.54 | [1]revdjenk | yes |
| 05:11.15 | LinuxNIT | how ya been? |
| 05:11.20 | [1]revdjenk | don't know why this one is appending (1) before my nick... oh well |
| 05:11.31 | [1]revdjenk | well we are down to a week before the move! |
| 05:11.38 | [1]revdjenk | almost everything packed |
| 05:11.42 | [1]revdjenk | been busy |
| 05:11.47 | LinuxNIT | sounds like fun |
| 05:11.52 | [1]revdjenk | hee hee |
| 05:12.17 | [1]revdjenk | and besides, the backlight on my lappy went dark, too |
| 05:12.21 | [1]revdjenk | yikes! |
| 05:12.31 | LinuxNIT | eww |
| 05:12.39 | LinuxNIT | well when you get back to E |
| 05:12.45 | [1]revdjenk | yes, will have to deal with that after the move |
| 05:12.48 | LinuxNIT | you can try this out if you want |
| 05:12.50 | LinuxNIT | http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=themessdx4.png |
| 05:14.33 | [1]revdjenk | I'll try...the latest beta is like .3 to my lappy too.... |
| 05:14.46 | [1]revdjenk | no auto mount of cd's or usb |
| 05:14.51 | [1]revdjenk | audio flaky |
| 05:14.54 | LinuxNIT | thats the theme ive been working on |
| 05:14.55 | [1]revdjenk | yikes! |
| 05:15.05 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 05:15.12 | LinuxNIT | well beta3.1 is out |
| 05:15.25 | LinuxNIT | so maby itll work better :-/ |
| 05:15.38 | [1]revdjenk | will try after I get my screen fixed! |
| 05:15.41 | LinuxNIT | *maybe |
| 05:15.42 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:15.46 | [1]revdjenk | hmmm |
| 05:15.55 | LinuxNIT | yeah a fixed screen would help |
| 05:15.56 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 05:16.22 | [1]revdjenk | yes, lugging an extra monitor around kinda defeats the mobile part of the equation! |
| 05:16.32 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:16.36 | LinuxNIT | :( |
| 05:16.39 | [1]revdjenk | I'm back to my Zaurus |
| 05:16.52 | [1]revdjenk | which is still cool |
| 05:17.09 | LinuxNIT | zaurus? |
| 05:17.24 | [1]revdjenk | it is a Sharp pda, runs Linux |
| 05:17.27 | [1]revdjenk | hee hee |
| 05:17.30 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT: what is that post site again |
| 05:17.30 | LinuxNIT | ah |
| 05:17.37 | LinuxNIT | post site? |
| 05:17.59 | PrinceAMD | yea |
| 05:18.07 | PrinceAMD | something.da |
| 05:18.16 | LinuxNIT | the pastebin? |
| 05:18.20 | PrinceAMD | yea :D |
| 05:18.21 | LinuxNIT | pastebin.ca |
| 05:18.22 | [1]revdjenk | I have been a secret Linux head for five years with that thing...it helped me get brave about investiigating for my pc |
| 05:18.24 | PrinceAMD | paste |
| 05:18.44 | LinuxNIT | [1]revdjenk, really |
| 05:18.48 | LinuxNIT | 5 yrs? |
| 05:18.58 | [1]revdjenk | had it since sept 2001 |
| 05:19.12 | LinuxNIT | youve been on linux longer than me then ;) |
| 05:19.26 | [1]revdjenk | yes, but again, as a user.... |
| 05:19.32 | [1]revdjenk | hee hee |
| 05:19.51 | [1]revdjenk | LOL |
| 05:20.00 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT lies :D |
| 05:20.08 | [1]revdjenk | and I am just a troublemaker |
| 05:20.09 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 05:20.19 | LinuxNIT | well i dont do admin |
| 05:20.20 | [1]revdjenk | we ALL know that! |
| 05:20.52 | LinuxNIT | i just use it.... and seen enough problems and how they all get solved similar that i can help other users |
| 05:21.22 | [1]revdjenk | hey PrinceAMD, he is modest, no? |
| 05:21.34 | [1]revdjenk | that is why he is great |
| 05:21.50 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 05:22.12 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT is a helper |
| 05:22.15 | PrinceAMD | heys kool |
| 05:22.23 | PrinceAMD | he's* |
| 05:23.31 | [1]revdjenk | so how are the 'pales' been |
| 05:23.42 | [1]revdjenk | *have |
| 05:23.43 | LinuxNIT | pretty good |
| 05:24.05 | [1]revdjenk | great, you'll have to tell them I asked about them....and roxy too |
| 05:24.30 | LinuxNIT | will do |
| 05:24.59 | [1]revdjenk | well. I am headed for bed.... it took me two hours to get irc'd I'm tired. |
| 05:25.09 | LinuxNIT | [1]revdjenk, wait |
| 05:25.13 | [1]revdjenk | k |
| 05:25.19 | LinuxNIT | join my channel right quick |
| 05:25.32 | [1]revdjenk | I cant' talk to you. not registered |
| 05:25.38 | LinuxNIT | my channel |
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| 05:33.24 | LinuxNIT | welcome Elive_user32 |
| 05:37.38 | Deformative | ! |
| 05:37.47 | Deformative | It found the kernel. |
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| 08:15.46 | *** topic/#elive is Official Documentation and FAQ: http://wiki.elivecd.org || Join the Elive community: http://wiki.elivecd.org/community any volonteer for make better this drupal site ? || Check #e #e.fr #e.es #e.de #e.it Enlightenment channels || BUG REPORTS to http://bugs.thanatermesis.org (actually down in maintenance) |
| 08:22.15 | xwizard | why elive works sooooo slow on my machine :P ? |
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| 08:31.30 | xwizard | apt, elive |
| 08:31.31 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, elive is a livecd (installable) project and a perfectly distro based in debian and have only the enlightenment WM for managing all the system, utilities, libs, instalation, programation in EFL... the best distro in the world for this moments :) |
| 08:32.03 | xwizard | shouldnt it be 'perfect distro' ? |
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| 09:12.50 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT: e16 is koool |
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| 09:19.46 | xwizard | PrinceAMD: of course it is :) |
| 09:20.07 | PrinceAMD | xwizard: this is the first time i'm using it |
| 09:20.15 | PrinceAMD | it freeking ROCKS! |
| 09:20.51 | PrinceAMD | i like how i put's my apps on the desktop |
| 09:21.01 | xwizard | you mean autoraise? |
| 09:21.10 | xwizard | or 'smart placement' ? |
| 09:21.52 | PrinceAMD | not autoraise |
| 09:22.10 | PrinceAMD | ok when u press minimize a screenshot of the app goes on the desktop |
| 09:22.19 | PrinceAMD | idk what it's called :( |
| 09:27.43 | xwizard | ah! |
| 09:29.28 | PrinceAMD | xwizard: what r u doin? |
| 09:29.52 | xwizard | now i'm installing e16 under my freebsd :) |
| 09:30.01 | PrinceAMD | nice |
| 09:30.09 | PrinceAMD | u'll love it |
| 09:30.21 | xwizard | i used it in elvive |
| 09:30.32 | PrinceAMD | kool |
| 09:30.48 | PrinceAMD | how the hell do u edit engage for e17 |
| 09:31.33 | xwizard | hmm.. i used entangle |
| 09:35.02 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 09:35.20 | xwizard | does it work? |
| 09:35.30 | PrinceAMD | yea |
| 09:35.42 | PrinceAMD | just wanted to know how to config |
| 09:35.55 | xwizard | :| |
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| 09:37.40 | xwizard | PrinceAMD: click on engage tab and drag icons from left |
| 09:38.10 | PrinceAMD | i'm on e16 |
| 09:38.26 | PrinceAMD | how do i move it form the bottom n take it to the top |
| 09:38.53 | xwizard | uh.. you asked about e17 :) |
| 09:38.58 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 09:39.11 | xwizard | 11:29 < PrinceAMD> how the hell do u edit engage for e17 |
| 09:39.22 | PrinceAMD | i know :D |
| 09:39.29 | xwizard | PrinceAMD: try engage --help |
| 09:39.37 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 09:39.49 | xwizard | it has some options, than you must find where is it actually launched |
| 09:40.04 | xwizard | oh, eq6 portinstalled :P |
| 09:40.11 | xwizard | brb, restart |
| 09:40.17 | PrinceAMD | kool |
| 09:44.51 | xwizard | back |
| 09:45.21 | xwizard | what an ugly light theme :| |
| 09:46.08 | PrinceAMD | huh.. |
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| 09:48.46 | xwizard | :) |
| 09:49.12 | PrinceAMD | so what are u doin now? |
| 09:49.44 | xwizard | looking for engage in ports :) |
| 09:50.10 | PrinceAMD | ok when u settin up your engage can we do it together |
| 09:50.16 | xwizard | ok |
| 09:51.24 | xwizard | i found e17-module but it installs standalone app too |
| 09:53.11 | PrinceAMD | well i'm on elive so i got the same as u i guess |
| 09:53.26 | xwizard | yes |
| 09:53.50 | PrinceAMD | i have e16,e17,kde,gnome,athene,blackbox,sawfish,xfce,failsafe :) |
| 09:53.59 | xwizard | uh |
| 09:54.09 | xwizard | athene? |
| 09:54.15 | PrinceAMD | look it up :D |
| 09:54.21 | PrinceAMD | it's kinda kool |
| 09:54.34 | PrinceAMD | kinda i say |
| 09:54.37 | xwizard | i'm using unices for 5 years and never heared about it |
| 09:54.58 | PrinceAMD | linux.softpedia.com type athene |
| 09:55.53 | PrinceAMD | ever use fluxbox? |
| 09:55.59 | xwizard | yes |
| 09:56.21 | xwizard | i used allmost everything :) |
| 09:56.33 | PrinceAMD | ahhhhhhh except athene :D |
| 09:56.50 | xwizard | i found only something like athene desktop edition 4.1 |
| 09:56.52 | PrinceAMD | i'm 1 step ahead of u :) |
| 09:56.56 | PrinceAMD | yea that's it |
| 09:57.23 | PrinceAMD | i'm goin to download fluxbox now ok |
| 09:58.36 | xwizard | ewwww, like allways.. athene has bar on the bottom |
| 09:58.47 | xwizard | icons on desktop.. |
| 09:58.54 | xwizard | yuck! |
| 09:59.09 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 09:59.31 | PrinceAMD | XPde looks like windows xp |
| 10:00.08 | xwizard | it is written in pascal, non-configurable, ugly and slow |
| 10:01.16 | PrinceAMD | ewwww |
| 10:03.01 | xwizard | twm rox :) |
| 10:03.32 | PrinceAMD | twm |
| 10:07.14 | PrinceAMD | xwizard i'm goin n get some sleep |
| 10:07.20 | PrinceAMD | sun's up already |
| 10:07.31 | xwizard | ok |
| 10:07.41 | xwizard | havea good resting |
| 10:08.20 | PrinceAMD | ahh thankz |
| 10:08.21 | PrinceAMD | later |
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| 11:20.08 | Elive_user | hi all |
| 11:20.18 | Elive_user | i am a new elive user |
| 11:20.26 | Elive_user | and have a question |
| 11:20.34 | Elive_user | can anyone help me please? |
| 11:21.09 | Elive_user | are you all sleeping here ? |
| 11:24.21 | Elive_user | exit |
| 11:24.23 | Elive_user | bye bye |
| 11:27.13 | ciphernaut | ... hi |
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| 11:38.45 | xwizard | damn :| 20MB free space on / |
| 11:40.12 | ciphernaut | im down to 750 as well |
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| 12:41.58 | Thanatermesis | good morning |
| 12:42.02 | Thanatermesis | xwizard, the change of language on the fly on the liveCD mode not works very good (unionfs bug), you have this problem on your installed system ? |
| 12:42.13 | xwizard | yes |
| 12:42.22 | Thanatermesis | from elpanel ? |
| 12:42.43 | xwizard | it is not possible to change encoding from elpanel |
| 12:42.55 | xwizard | so, i've decided to switch it manualy |
| 12:43.48 | xwizard | but elive lacks utf-8 locales, i needed to create it by hand |
| 12:47.43 | Thanatermesis | you mean... your language is not added on elpanel ? |
| 12:48.12 | Thanatermesis | lacks ? it works very good utf-8 for me (no in the liveCD mode, of course) |
| 12:50.23 | Thanatermesis | xwizard, cat /usr/share/langconf/lists/locale-list |
| 12:50.30 | Thanatermesis | look if is the correct on this list |
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| 12:53.01 | xwizard | Thanatermesis: i'm not under elive now |
| 12:53.22 | xwizard | Thanatermesis: will check it later |
| 12:56.16 | Thanatermesis | ok |
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| 13:01.49 | xwizard | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20020707&mode=classic |
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| 13:06.26 | elmo40 | xwizard: all you had to do was 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' then elpanel _should_ see your UTF-8 |
| 13:07.34 | xwizard | ok, thanks |
| 13:07.36 | xwizard | i'll try |
| 13:08.40 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, not exactly... i mean to the correct way to configure the language on Elive is from elpanel (has a app for change the language), because make's the dpkg-reconfigure stuff but also more things |
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| 13:37.57 | Elive_user2 | uuuuuuh, O O O |
| 13:38.07 | Elive_user2 | ...is this thing on...? |
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| 13:45.27 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: elpanel automatically does dpk-reconfig? |
| 13:45.52 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, yes, + more things (for example change the language on the desktop on the fly) |
| 13:45.59 | elmo40 | nice |
| 13:46.12 | elmo40 | so people can stay in their GUI then, eh? ;) |
| 13:50.06 | Thanatermesis | well, from elpanel is better because make more things... from dpkg-reconfigure it works also, and you can select a more "concret" language... |
| 13:50.41 | Thanatermesis | but for the end-user (noob), is a lot more easy to select his language by his name than by a code |
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| 14:18.02 | dererk | Yo! |
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| 14:28.12 | ee_lars | hi all |
| 14:32.06 | roxville | all is not here right now... would you like to leave a message? |
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| 14:33.36 | ee_lars | :) |
| 14:33.46 | ee_lars | hello my diabetik crew partner |
| 14:33.50 | ee_lars | how're you? |
| 14:34.26 | ee_lars | dererk didn't insulted me (i'm so surprised) |
| 14:34.44 | ee_lars | dererk : todo es ok? |
| 14:35.50 | dererk | yeap ee_lars |
| 14:35.57 | dererk | everything on rails ;) |
| 14:36.01 | ee_lars | lol |
| 14:36.21 | ee_lars | and you roxville ? |
| 14:36.21 | dererk | gmorning you too :P |
| 14:36.40 | ee_lars | morning????? it's 16h40 here |
| 14:36.55 | dererk | -dererk- TIME Mon Aug 21 11:37:00 |
| 14:36.56 | dererk | :P |
| 14:37.37 | ee_lars | :) |
| 14:37.45 | dererk | It's holiday here |
| 14:38.17 | ee_lars | here too |
| 14:38.18 | ee_lars | :) |
| 14:38.27 | ee_lars | dererk take a look : http://www.last.fm/music/Chris+Tidestrom,+a.k.a.+%22roxville%22 |
| 14:38.29 | dererk | yeah? |
| 14:38.33 | dererk | why ee_lars ? |
| 14:38.45 | ee_lars | cause 3 weeks break |
| 14:38.47 | ee_lars | lol |
| 14:39.16 | dererk | ¬¬ |
| 14:39.25 | dererk | I mean national holiday here |
| 14:39.32 | dererk | anyway, bbs |
| 14:40.14 | ee_lars | ah |
| 14:40.25 | ee_lars | maradonna birthday? |
| 14:40.32 | roxville | ee_lars, yes...i have not added any songs yet... |
| 14:40.38 | ee_lars | :p |
| 14:40.48 | roxville | in fact,i had forgotten i had even signed up for that :D |
| 14:41.07 | ee_lars | :) |
| 14:41.09 | ee_lars | 1 |
| 14:41.09 | ee_lars | Diesel And Dust |
| 14:41.09 | ee_lars | |
| 14:41.09 | ee_lars | 1 |
| 14:41.09 | ee_lars | 1 |
| 14:41.11 | ee_lars | For Teresa |
| 14:41.11 | roxville | LOL @maradona'sb-day |
| 14:41.13 | ee_lars | |
| 14:41.17 | ee_lars | 1 |
| 14:41.19 | ee_lars | 1 |
| 14:41.21 | ee_lars | Standing On Your Doorstep |
| 14:41.23 | ee_lars | |
| 14:41.25 | ee_lars | 1 |
| 14:41.27 | ee_lars | 1 |
| 14:41.29 | ee_lars | Southern Caroline |
| 14:41.31 | ee_lars | isn't that from you? :) |
| 14:41.40 | roxville | but... can you listen to them? |
| 14:42.29 | ee_lars | i didn't tried yer |
| 14:42.32 | ee_lars | yet* |
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| 14:42.54 | ee_lars | ah no |
| 14:42.56 | ee_lars | i can't |
| 14:43.36 | ee_lars | roxville you have to make an album called HRMW |
| 14:44.16 | roxville | i have? |
| 14:44.25 | ee_lars | aka Humalog Rocks My World :) |
| 14:44.31 | roxville | cool! weird name, though... |
| 14:44.38 | roxville | LMAO |
| 14:44.40 | ee_lars | :p |
| 14:45.10 | roxville | but i'm on Novolog now... |
| 14:45.48 | ee_lars | ah |
| 14:45.51 | ee_lars | NRMW |
| 14:45.56 | ee_lars | hard to pronounce |
| 14:46.19 | ee_lars | soon we'll use syslog and klog ;) |
| 14:47.13 | roxville | :D |
| 14:47.25 | roxville | or blog |
| 14:47.32 | ee_lars | loool |
| 14:49.40 | ee_lars | roxville : is your website off? |
| 14:52.44 | elmo40 | i have to admit, i like the App Killer (looks like a squid) |
| 14:54.52 | roxville | weird,i can't get toit either |
| 14:55.06 | roxville | oh shit i gotta go for a bit, bbl |
| 14:55.16 | ee_lars | ok roxville have fun |
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| 16:02.36 | PrinceAMD | morning or goodevening everyone |
| 16:02.46 | Deformative | Hi princeamd. |
| 16:03.16 | PrinceAMD | hey Deformative. i had a good dream :) |
| 16:03.39 | Deformative | Uh, yay. |
| 16:03.54 | Deformative | What was this dream? Or is something I dun wanna know. |
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| 16:05.09 | PrinceAMD | i think it's something u dont wanna know ;) |
| 16:05.10 | Deformative | Then don't tell me. ~_^ |
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| 16:05.19 | PrinceAMD | how r u Deformative, what u been up 2 lately |
| 16:06.17 | Deformative | Eh, alright i guess, but this cd still will not work. |
| 16:06.36 | PrinceAMD | :( sorry for u |
| 16:06.43 | PrinceAMD | what can i do to help? |
| 16:07.33 | Deformative | Nothing really. |
| 16:07.41 | Deformative | I will figure it out adventually. |
| 16:08.01 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 16:08.47 | PrinceAMD | so u want to create a bootable cd in linux rite? |
| 16:08.55 | Deformative | Be right back, I need to do some work on my lisard's cage. |
| 16:09.25 | PrinceAMD | kool |
| 16:09.36 | PrinceAMD | i got like 6 of them |
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| 16:38.46 | gorthaug | hola |
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| 16:43.12 | Deformative | Back. |
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| 16:49.32 | xwizard | back |
| 16:49.49 | dererk | H, ping |
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| 17:10.36 | Deformative | Ugh, whatelse can go wrong, vmwre quit working on me now even. |
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| 17:11.27 | Elive_user0 | hello |
| 17:11.35 | keyra | Elive_user0: hi |
| 17:11.38 | H | holas dererk |
| 17:11.46 | keyra | H: que tal ? |
| 17:12.14 | H | holas :)) |
| 17:12.18 | H | bien bien |
| 17:12.56 | H | aqui haciendo una biblioteca dinamica y un mapa conceptual de como hacerlas ya que estoy :) |
| 17:13.04 | H | para facilitarme las cosas y a los demas |
| 17:13.12 | H | dererk que rias algo? |
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| 17:33.06 | Groquick | Hello |
| 17:33.44 | Groquick | I've a question : does Elive install is on 64 bits or 32 bits ? |
| 17:33.56 | i3dmaster | I think 32bit |
| 17:34.19 | Groquick | ok thank you |
| 17:36.20 | i3dmaster | Is there a 64bit version of elive? ... I am not aware of though... |
| 17:36.50 | Thanatermesis | no... no for now |
| 17:37.05 | i3dmaster | ok ya that's what I thought |
| 17:37.17 | Thanatermesis | Elive installs a 32 bits systems, compatible with amd64 machines (running on 32 bits, of course) |
| 17:37.23 | i3dmaster | hows going big guy? |
| 17:38.01 | Thanatermesis | good :) working a little on the installer (again lol) |
| 17:38.19 | i3dmaster | hehe.. good. your favorite |
| 17:38.25 | Thanatermesis | btw, i don't edit really/very on gobby... this crappy app crashing and without the good efficiency of vim... |
| 17:39.08 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis: that guy is really not ready yet for production |
| 17:39.22 | i3dmaster | got some questions for you though |
| 17:40.07 | i3dmaster | 1 is I am stilling thing mirror your main apt repo.. we are still having big problem to update elive pkgs from within our build system |
| 17:41.41 | Thanatermesis | mmh, try "apt-cache search mirror packages.gz" |
| 17:41.49 | Thanatermesis | maybe on those 3 results you found a useful thing |
| 17:42.20 | Thanatermesis | i remember ear about a repository mirror to works looking the Packages.gz files |
| 17:43.38 | Thanatermesis | btw im thinkin to mirror the repository from ibiblio... same to the ISOs.. and all mirrors of the ISOS have then also the repository added |
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| 17:46.35 | i3dmaster | ok that sounds like a good idea |
| 17:47.09 | i3dmaster | got to wander out for a while... I will take look those tools for mirroring.. |
| 17:47.35 | i3dmaster | still having two questions left for you though... :) |
| 17:48.00 | Thanatermesis | yes, ask |
| 17:49.35 | i3dmaster | ya will ask you when I get back.. |
| 17:51.32 | Thanatermesis | ok |
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| 18:27.12 | leku | hey |
| 18:27.20 | leku | um |
| 18:27.24 | leku | how do i create an icon on my desktop? |
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| 18:28.15 | xwizard | leku: you can use external app |
| 18:28.18 | xwizard | :P |
| 18:28.21 | leku | or the ibar |
| 18:28.23 | leku | i guess i can put it there |
| 18:28.28 | xwizard | yes |
| 18:28.29 | leku | epanel.. |
| 18:28.34 | leku | i hate browisng through this icon list |
| 18:28.38 | leku | i'm trying to create an icon for eclipse |
| 18:28.41 | leku | which is installed in my ~ |
| 18:28.47 | xwizard | hmm |
| 18:29.09 | xwizard | run it and drag icon from top left side of window |
| 18:29.21 | leku | onto the panel? |
| 18:29.22 | leku | entangle |
| 18:29.23 | leku | or whatever |
| 18:29.33 | leku | so minimize it |
| 18:29.53 | leku | and drag the icon |
| 18:30.25 | leku | not working? |
| 18:30.45 | xwizard | e16 or e17? |
| 18:30.50 | leku | 17 |
| 18:31.18 | xwizard | so.. with e 17 you have an windw icon |
| 18:31.30 | xwizard | right clicking will give you menu |
| 18:31.43 | xwizard | click 'edit icon' |
| 18:31.45 | xwizard | edit it |
| 18:31.49 | leku | right clicking closes it |
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| 18:31.51 | leku | :-) |
| 18:31.55 | xwizard | uh |
| 18:31.57 | leku | yeah |
| 18:32.01 | leku | undesired behavior |
| 18:32.04 | xwizard | strange |
| 18:32.19 | xwizard | hi lontra |
| 18:32.24 | lontra | hi xwizard |
| 18:32.27 | leku | forget it |
| 18:32.32 | xwizard | works? |
| 18:32.55 | leku | nope |
| 18:33.17 | xwizard | :| |
| 18:33.19 | leku | o well |
| 18:33.27 | xwizard | strange worked for me |
| 18:33.33 | leku | what elive ver are you using? |
| 18:33.39 | leku | i'm using the 4.2 distro i think.. |
| 18:33.46 | xwizard | it does not matter |
| 18:33.58 | xwizard | e17 supports this for long time ;) |
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| 18:49.30 | H | thanatermesis? |
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| 19:07.58 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis: |
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| 19:14.47 | flixil | Hello |
| 19:16.58 | ee_lars | diabetik : ping |
| 19:21.13 | ee_lars | look at that : http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/07/about-ubuntu-christian-edition.html |
| 19:21.21 | keyra | ee_lars: Ubuntu is OFF topic |
| 19:21.31 | ee_lars | :p |
| 19:21.45 | flixil | Tabu |
| 19:32.10 | Thanatermesis | H, si ? |
| 19:32.12 | Thanatermesis | i3dmaster, yes ? |
| 19:32.36 | flixil | Hi Thana how do you do? |
| 19:32.50 | Thanatermesis | flixil, kwak ? |
| 19:32.51 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis: how to upgrade a build env to the current elive version |
| 19:33.00 | Thanatermesis | apt, x en es how do you do |
| 19:33.07 | flixil | que como te va xD |
| 19:33.12 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 19:33.17 | Thanatermesis | bien, aqui tirando... currando... |
| 19:33.23 | flixil | a estas horas? |
| 19:33.28 | Thanatermesis | i3dmaster, build env ? |
| 19:33.29 | flixil | ahh... es verdad, freelance |
| 19:33.32 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis: the content can be done by apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 19:33.38 | Thanatermesis | aha, correct |
| 19:33.47 | flixil | Thanatermesis: tienes k probar lfs es muy divertido :) |
| 19:33.51 | Thanatermesis | flixil, si, por la noche es cuando mejor trabajo |
| 19:33.59 | i3dmaster | yes, a liveCD content including the base and everything |
| 19:34.00 | Thanatermesis | flixil, si tuviera tiempo :( |
| 19:34.40 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis: if I take the elie latest version and just replace the base file, and update the deliver, would that work? |
| 19:34.47 | i3dmaster | anything else needs to be considered? |
| 19:34.47 | flixil | Thanatermesis: ahora cuando tenga tiempo quiero hacer un juego via web tipo guaranpis pero gpl :) a ver k churro sale |
| 19:35.17 | Thanatermesis | i3dmaster, yes... not really, just build the iso with his boot thing |
| 19:35.37 | Thanatermesis | flixil, via web ? |
| 19:36.12 | flixil | Thanatermesis: si :) Te hace la idea? |
| 19:36.22 | Thanatermesis | flixil, hombre... web... nose |
| 19:36.38 | flixil | Ya tengo en mente como sería el estilo y como hacerlo, faltan las horas |
| 19:36.53 | flixil | no sabes de web... o web... pufff.. es k ... no se... |
| 19:37.03 | Thanatermesis | de web yo ? ni idea |
| 19:37.38 | flixil | Ni yo xD pero con estas cosas se aprende |
| 19:37.46 | Thanatermesis | eso esta claro |
| 19:38.04 | flixil | Tampoco sabia formatear un pc ni hacer más k doble clic antes :) Pero la luz llega |
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| 19:39.17 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis: but if you made changes in isolinux or deliver, then it will make my liveCD not fully compatible with elive if I still build upon the old version. What I am thinking is to get the latest elive, update isolinux and carefully look at what you have changed in deliver and initramfs. take those changes and them apply my own customizations. that way, the downstream distro will be fully compatible |
| 19:39.25 | keyra | i3dmaster: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Elive-skel_System |
| 19:39.31 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 19:39.41 | Thanatermesis | one second, i go to buy a thing to eat... bbiab |
| 19:40.00 | i3dmaster | its not the skel |
| 19:40.14 | i3dmaster | I am talking about things beyond the base fs |
| 19:40.49 | flixil | Para no saber tienes una web muy chula :) |
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| 20:17.25 | Thanatermesis | i3dmaster, well, i understand what you mean |
| 20:17.47 | Thanatermesis | i don't think/know to exist really a way to make this... but of course, you have all the "last things of Elive" from the repository |
| 20:17.51 | Thanatermesis | all is on the repositories |
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| 20:19.15 | Thanatermesis | i have the same problem with DSS... i have my modified DSS for my needs... but im not syncyng with DSS... for the next iso i just download his last version and compare it with the mine, and when i have a good thing for DSS i send it to their founder |
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| 20:35.36 | i3dmaster | ok i see |
| 20:36.34 | i3dmaster | some of things like kernel upgrade, bootsplash changes or initramfs content changes, I'd need to take close look at them how to adapt to the downstream version |
| 20:36.43 | keyra | i3dmaster: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Elive-skel_System |
| 20:37.30 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 20:37.32 | i3dmaster | keyra: I am not talking about skel system |
| 20:39.53 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis: have you tried the beta3 on vm? |
| 20:39.56 | Thanatermesis | well... is all on the repositories, bootsplash's (inyected to the initramfs, make a look to dpkg -L bootsplash...) |
| 20:40.19 | Thanatermesis | kernel upgrade is previsted for the first versions of beta of 0.6... but you know it... if you look at the last beta's or the changelog |
| 20:40.27 | i3dmaster | that's all user mode stuff I guess |
| 20:40.28 | keyra | Thanatermesis: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Elive-skel_System |
| 20:41.05 | Thanatermesis | lolol |
| 20:41.30 | i3dmaster | I pay more attention to what you have upgraded in isolinux and deliver |
| 20:42.02 | Thanatermesis | beta3 of Elive on a virtual machine ? yes... everytime i test it on vm's |
| 20:42.54 | Thanatermesis | well, deliver and initramfs is not really on any package... it are just builded on the moment of the iso |
| 20:42.56 | i3dmaster | hmm... ok. I don't why I just can't bootup on this version.. it hangs on loading the first boot menu |
| 20:43.31 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis: exactly. that's why it needs some manually work |
| 20:44.09 | i3dmaster | guess I will try wipe out the vm and recreate it if you don't have any issue to run it |
| 20:45.50 | i3dmaster | another question, in order to test some scripts I made for bootup, I stripped out most of the internal tools and X, multimedia tools. the test CD is about 580Mb, but for some reason, entrance can't login to e16/17 desktop anymore. |
| 20:46.22 | i3dmaster | after entering the user/passwd, wait a while and it went back to entrance login screen.. What did I missed? |
| 20:47.22 | elmo40 | with no X, there is no E !! |
| 20:47.26 | elmo40 | correct? |
| 20:47.43 | Thanatermesis | hangs on hte boot menu ? what VM you use ? |
| 20:47.45 | i3dmaster | elmo40: well I didn't say I wiped out X |
| 20:48.00 | i3dmaster | vmware 5.5.2 |
| 20:48.01 | elmo40 | oh, stripped out... ok ;) |
| 20:48.34 | i3dmaster | elmo40: ya, some of the non-critial X apps not X server |
| 20:48.37 | Thanatermesis | mmh, it works fine for me... but... i use now: VMware Server 1.0.0 build-28343 |
| 20:48.51 | Thanatermesis | is free... how as beer :) |
| 20:49.06 | i3dmaster | ok, np.. I will give it try again on vm server |
| 20:50.06 | i3dmaster | well.. my linux box isn't very poweroff to drive vms.. so I usually test on my windows box |
| 20:50.14 | keyra | i3dmaster: Elive doesn't like windows. Don't use it. Windows is incompatible with all |
| 20:50.28 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 20:50.28 | i3dmaster | hehe... |
| 20:50.50 | i3dmaster | that's my most powerful box using for gaming |
| 20:51.16 | i3dmaster | linux does not need a powerful box to run well but window does |
| 20:51.59 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis: ok how about the entrance issue? you got any idea why? |
| 20:52.07 | Elive_user8 | hi |
| 20:52.18 | Elive_user8 | just a try under suse with qemu |
| 20:52.26 | Elive_user8 | E17 looks nice |
| 20:53.12 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user8, is better if you build it on a CD or install it ;) |
| 20:53.58 | Elive_user8 | héhé, good marketing :P |
| 20:54.12 | Thanatermesis | i3dmaster, yes... posible... entrance has a hack for have the correct languages before to login |
| 20:54.20 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user8, why not ? :) |
| 20:54.33 | Thanatermesis | i3dmaster, look if you have /etc/environment file |
| 20:54.40 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis: language? |
| 20:54.42 | i3dmaster | ok |
| 20:54.58 | Elive_user8 | i've good a stupid problem, how can i resize a window where the bottom border is not shown ? |
| 20:55.08 | i3dmaster | LANG=en_US.UTF-8 |
| 20:55.22 | Thanatermesis | yes... before to login on e16/e17 it set the LANG variable, for have E in the language of your system |
| 20:55.30 | i3dmaster | alt+mid-mouse |
| 20:55.45 | Elive_user8 | <Thanatermesis> : yep, why not give it a try |
| 20:56.01 | Elive_user8 | on my desktop i've got a hd specialy for testing distributions |
| 20:56.18 | elmo40 | i3dmaster: wow, i did not know that!! I got rid of all the eTerm borders/scrollbar and never knew you can resize LOL |
| 20:56.18 | i3dmaster | I do have $LANG env variable |
| 20:56.37 | Elive_user8 | i3 : thanks, it worked |
| 20:56.50 | elmo40 | btw, i cant read any CD's... i tried mounting them and still nothing. Says it is 'busy' |
| 20:56.55 | i3dmaster | elmo40: ya, that's very handy to resize a non-border window |
| 20:57.15 | i3dmaster | Elive_user8: np |
| 20:57.15 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, basically is because the users don't look to the documentation site of Elive ;) |
| 20:57.17 | Elive_user8 | yep |
| 20:57.24 | Thanatermesis | it has a little page with all the hotkeys of E |
| 20:57.33 | keyra | Thanatermesis: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Enlightenment_HotKeys |
| 20:57.36 | Elive_user8 | :oops: |
| 20:57.36 | Thanatermesis | not very doc... but useful doc |
| 20:57.38 | Thanatermesis | thanks keyra :) |
| 20:57.47 | keyra | Thanatermesis: youre welcome :) |
| 20:58.54 | Thanatermesis | i3dmaster, check also /etc/entrance_lang |
| 20:59.06 | i3dmaster | k |
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| 20:59.22 | i3dmaster | LANG=en_US.UTF-8 |
| 20:59.45 | elmo40 | here is my SS http://aycu18.webshots.com/image/2577/1481702271871400808_rs.jpg |
| 21:00.01 | i3dmaster | do you know how to trace entrance? if it can generate some logs, I might be able to find out why |
| 21:00.32 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: documents? what are those? Similar to 'assembly instructions' ? LOL |
| 21:01.13 | i3dmaster | elmo40: nice bg |
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| 21:02.34 | elmo40 | ya, my random eTerm backgrounds ;) |
| 21:03.37 | bentejuy | hi everyone! |
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| 21:05.29 | elmo40 | hi |
| 21:07.32 | Thanatermesis | i3dmaster, yes, use strace |
| 21:07.42 | Thanatermesis | i remember one person to has reported one day a bug using strace ot entrance |
| 21:07.47 | Thanatermesis | close entrance and: |
| 21:07.56 | Thanatermesis | strace -o /tmp/strace.log entrance |
| 21:08.04 | i3dmaster | ok |
| 21:08.25 | Thanatermesis | hi bentejuy |
| 21:08.39 | bentejuy | hi Thanatermesis ;) |
| 21:08.46 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, assembly ? no... hotkeys :) for work fast ;) |
| 21:08.55 | keyra | Thanatermesis: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Enlightenment_HotKeys |
| 21:12.43 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis: nothing. I tail -f the file and when inputing user/pass, then enter and back to entrace logon screen, there is nothing logged |
| 21:13.20 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis: interesting thing is I tried using xinit && enlightenment, and I can get into e17 |
| 21:13.25 | i3dmaster | just not from entrance |
| 21:13.36 | Thanatermesis | well, after to make a failed login, control+C the strace stuff and send me it, i make a look |
| 21:13.51 | i3dmaster | ok |
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| 21:20.06 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis: sent to your gmail |
| 21:21.40 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 21:21.53 | MetaPhaze_laptop | Thanatermesis, we just got a dedicated server box on the net... 100 Mbps transfer rate :D |
| 21:24.48 | Thanatermesis | good! :) |
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| 21:40.16 | Thanatermesis | i3dmaster, i don't look/found where is the moment of exit or the thing to not works..., you use the entrance package from Elive repo, yes ? |
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| 21:56.06 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis: yes |
| 21:56.47 | i3dmaster | that's what I was saying there is no thing nothing logged |
| 21:58.08 | elmo40 | many of those hot keys dont work... alt+F# doesnt |
| 21:58.16 | keyra | elmo40: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Enlightenment_HotKeys |
| 22:00.04 | i3dmaster | Thanatermesis: the last log is exit_group(0), after that, no matter how many times I try to login and failed, there is nothing logged anymore |
| 22:00.23 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, alt+F is only for e16 i think... |
| 22:00.32 | elmo40 | that is what i use ;) |
| 22:01.56 | i3dmaster | elmo40: enlightenment_remote -binding-key-list will give you the list of key bindings that can be used under e17 |
| 22:02.13 | Thanatermesis | i3dmaster, you have /etc/locale.gen ? |
| 22:02.15 | elmo40 | but i dont use e17... |
| 22:02.31 | i3dmaster | elmo40: oh really.. sorry |
| 22:02.46 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, mmh... well, then it needs to are removed... but is not posible for now, is not posible to edit on the doc site of Elive for now |
| 22:02.57 | i3dmaster | yes, en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 |
| 22:03.04 | elmo40 | no biggie |
| 22:03.17 | elmo40 | what is another hotkey to switch virtual windows? |
| 22:03.25 | keyra | elmo40: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Enlightenment_HotKeys |
| 22:03.27 | elmo40 | or can i make it one? |
| 22:03.37 | elmo40 | i been there... |
| 22:03.47 | i3dmaster | then try C-A-allow |
| 22:05.04 | Thanatermesis | i3dmaster, strange... i don't found any more thing posible |
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| 22:05.56 | i3dmaster | ya its quite odd.. it just seems like when entrance his the logon window, it hands over to some other apps and not running anything anymore |
| 22:06.26 | Thanatermesis | i3dmaster, try to change the locale to all this variables, for example es_ES.UTF-8 to are what i use and works... but it needs to works, i don't understand why not... |
| 22:06.26 | i3dmaster | if you do the strace yourself, you will see that. when hits logon screen, no more traces |
| 22:07.16 | i3dmaster | sorry, I didn't catch you |
| 22:07.23 | i3dmaster | change the locale to what? |
| 22:08.14 | i3dmaster | locale -a show all my locales supported currently are C, en_US.UTF-8 and POSIX |
| 22:13.54 | Thanatermesis | to another... just another |
| 22:14.06 | Thanatermesis | for example i use es_ES in utf-8 without problems |
| 22:22.40 | i3dmaster | no. doesn't work |
| 22:24.04 | Thanatermesis | :/ |
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| 22:37.13 | Thanatermesis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc_8LdJ9Ghs <--- geeks only |
| 22:37.17 | Thanatermesis | for* |
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| 23:22.06 | flixil | I'll go bed, see u pple |
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