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`00:02.17`	`*** join/#elive Thanatermesis__ (n=Elive@222.105-200-80.adsl.skynet.be)`
`00:02.39`	`Thanatermesis__`	`fuck.. i have lost the power in the house between 1 second`
`00:02.56`	`Thanatermesis__`	`its the first time on 2 years`
`00:03.04`	`Thanatermesis__`	`this is very very very bad for the data`
`00:03.40`	`Elive_user3`	`is that why the wiki is giving sql errors?`
`00:03.56`	`Thanatermesis__`	`Mtraker, decia que hay un nuevo "about" en el site de Elive, se le a añadido una descripcion de "que es elive" que antes no tenia`
`00:04.06`	`Thanatermesis__`	`Elive_user3, no... this is why is needed to upgrade the wiki, just this`
`00:04.23`	`Thanatermesis__`	`but is not posible for now because is required php5 and is not posible to install for now, aparently`
`00:04.28`	`Thanatermesis__`	`is also not posible to edit on the wiki`
`00:06.00`	`roxville`	`<Elive_user3> also, is there a way to add titles to the icons in the elive control panel?`
`00:06.02`	`Elive_user3`	`I am a newbie and have been trying to find documentation for two tasks: how to add icons to the menubar in e16, and how to add titles to the icons in the elive control panel. Can someone tell me how to do this or refer me to some URLs, please?`
`00:06.25`	`roxville`	`if you look at the bottom of elpanel, you see the title scrolling by`
`00:07.34`	`Elive_user3`	`i know that the title scrolls, by; I'd like to have a permanent title that I can read instantly, rather than waiting for the scroll`
`00:08.35`	`roxville`	`you would need to hack elpanel considerably to do that :/`
`00:08.45`	`roxville`	`thana made elpanel...`
`00:09.13`	`roxville`	`and since he doesn't know how to license it... it's... kinda closed for now`
`00:09.20`	`roxville`	`but!`
`00:09.39`	`Thanatermesis__`	`hehe`
`00:09.51`	`roxville`	`elpanel will be re-done ... just not right now, probably for elive0.6`
`00:09.53`	`Elive_user3`	`ah....ok, I won't worry about trying get labels then. (I'm sure I will eventually memorize which icon does what)`
`00:09.58`	`Thanatermesis__`	`well, add titles to the icons of the actual version of elpanel is actually not posible`
`00:10.08`	`Thanatermesis__`	`in the future is planned to change totally it`
`00:10.18`	`Thanatermesis__`	`for the menus of e16... just see the menus editor`
`00:10.36`	`Thanatermesis__`	`aha`
`00:10.40`	`Thanatermesis__`	`Mtraker, estas alli ?`
`00:11.29`	`roxville`	`gotta out daughter to bed, bbiab`
`00:11.36`	`Elive_user3`	`I know how to add items to the menu that you get when you left click on the desktop, What I don't know is how to add bouncing launcher icons to the menubar at the bottom of the screen.`
`00:12.37`	`Thanatermesis__`	`oh.. well, this is on elpanel`
`00:12.40`	`Thanatermesis__`	`the engage-manager`
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`00:15.10`	`gnaunited`	`What kernel should use for an athlon 2000+?`
`00:15.41`	`Thanatermesis__`	`gnaunited, default Elive kernel ?`
`00:17.34`	`gnaunited`	`Is it considered to be a 383,686, or k7?`
`00:17.49`	`gnaunited`	`I need to know so i can put it on my ubuntu box...`
`00:21.32`	`Thanatermesis__`	`386 is good`
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`00:40.08`	`elmo40`	`Thanatermesis: 386 for athlon 2000? no, should have used 686...`
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`00:41.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`elmo40, why ?`
`00:41.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`you think to you obtain more optimization ?`
`00:41.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`show me it :)`
`00:42.08`	`elmo40`	`then why is there an option? why not make all the kernels for 386`
`00:42.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`i use 386 for all :)`
`00:42.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is just for the fanatics to the optimization`
`00:42.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`where really don't exist`
`00:43.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`386 = x86, 686 = x86`
`00:43.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`in debian, the packages are compiled WITH optimization enabled, for all, kernel, applications... all, on 386`
`00:43.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`and you can't obtain more optimization of compilation than this`
`00:43.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`686 and similar things are just wrong ideas to has the users`
`00:44.23`	`elmo40`	`besides, the 2000+ is a k7`
`00:44.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`k7 = x86`
`00:45.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`show me any real benchmark where says to compiling for 686 is more optimized than 386`
`00:45.41`	`elmo40`	`it is a Similar architecture, but not the same... some things are altered to use the different sub routines in the k7 chip then for a general 386 chip.`
`00:45.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`no...`
`00:45.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is only the processor features`
`00:46.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`but the applications NOT are made for use those special flags and sub routines`
`00:46.16`	`elmo40`	`that is what i mean! The kernel will use those features if you tell it they are there`
`00:46.28`	`Mutacion`	`hi ppl :)`
`00:46.31`	`Mutacion`	`qiubole elmo`
`00:46.32`	`Mutacion`	`ese thana`
`00:46.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`se Mutacion`
`00:46.49`	`elmo40`	`then i go back to my original question... why 'confuse' people with 386/686/k6/k7?`
`00:47.04`	`elmo40`	`ola Mutacion`
`00:47.07`	`Mutacion`	`does someone has an xtra whirl of 12volts for a chipset? :p mines is burned :(`
`00:47.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`elmo40, because on this world exist fanatics to think to this optimizations really exists`
`00:48.06`	`Mutacion`	`yeah...and cause sometimes ppl want more info like -verbose-...some ppl need it..some ppl dont`
`00:48.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`and in some part exists... yes, exists, are here.... but not is what those users think`
`00:49.51`	`elmo40`	`interesting.`
`00:50.31`	`elmo40`	`still seems pointless to ask the question!! I thought Linux was about streamlining and optimizing!!???!?! If this question is redundent, then GET RID OF IT!!`
`00:51.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`well, how i have say before... those pacakges are all compiled WITH optimization`
`00:51.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`no "arch optimization", this is nothing... don't make any diference`
`00:52.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`is all the same arch, x85`
`00:52.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`x86`
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`01:02.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`welcome Elive_user and pales_rider`
`01:02.55`	`PrinceAMD`	`yep`
`01:04.46`	`Mutacion`	`ese linuxnit`
`01:04.51`	`Mutacion`	`ese prince`
`01:04.54`	`LinuxNIT`	`sup Mutacion`
`01:05.00`	`Mutacion`	`:)`
`01:06.55`	`LinuxNIT`	`PrinceAMD, ping`
`01:08.07`	`PrinceAMD`	`LinuxNIT: pong`
`01:08.22`	`PrinceAMD`	`hey Mutacion:`
`01:08.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`when you installed elive did you have any questions about what to do or find anything confusing?`
`01:09.04`	`PrinceAMD`	`nah...`
`01:09.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`k`
`01:09.24`	`LinuxNIT`	`know anyone who did?`
`01:09.52`	`PrinceAMD`	`richard but he giv up on linux cus all his drives sata n ntfs`
`01:10.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`elive supports sata just fine`
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`01:10.18`	`PrinceAMD`	`well richard lame bad bad bad`
`01:10.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`ntfs is supported as well (just not rw)`
`01:10.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`01:10.43`	`PrinceAMD`	`he xp lover i guess`
`01:11.08`	`Mutacion`	`lol`
`01:11.09`	`PrinceAMD`	`he got a new palm n he aint know how to get it to connect on linux`
`01:11.12`	`PrinceAMD`	`so that's another reson`
`01:11.18`	`PrinceAMD`	`reason`
`01:11.23`	`Mutacion`	`he can connect it with synce`
`01:11.40`	`Mutacion`	`moths ago i wrote down on wiki how to connect an ipaq to elive xD`
`01:11.59`	`Mutacion`	`with the usb-base`
`01:12.06`	`PrinceAMD`	`well he must have missed the page`
`01:12.29`	`Mutacion`	`yeah :( buh`
`01:12.30`	`PrinceAMD`	`linux i got some problem rite now!`
`01:12.38`	`PrinceAMD`	`elive flood`
`01:13.48`	`PrinceAMD`	`so Mutacion, what u up to`
`01:14.42`	`PrinceAMD`	`LinuxNIT: wake up and check elive-flood`
`01:15.27`	`Mutacion`	`nothing..my pc is parvcially burned..and im now on my dads old lap`
`01:15.35`	`PrinceAMD`	`that folder is empty`
`01:15.47`	`Mutacion`	`tomorrow ill buy another things so i can repair my pc`
`01:15.54`	`PrinceAMD`	`what happen to your pc`
`01:16.00`	`PrinceAMD`	`what burn`
`01:16.29`	`Mutacion`	`on monday we got an electrical storm :s`
`01:16.50`	`Mutacion`	`and several things burned inside the pc.. :s`
`01:16.54`	`LinuxNIT`	`PrinceAMD, what did you do?`
`01:17.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`what gave you the error`
`01:17.27`	`Deformative`	`Hi linuxNIT.`
`01:17.28`	`PrinceAMD`	`any command i type in terminal gives that error`
`01:17.29`	`Mutacion`	`the eth0 port...and usb..the fuente de poder..mm.. the thing that conects light to ur pc box.... and the whirl of the chipset:s`
`01:17.32`	`LinuxNIT`	`hi Deformative`
`01:19.01`	`PrinceAMD`	`Mutacion: do u mean the power suppily?`
`01:19.12`	`Mutacion`	`yeah that thing :P`
`01:19.23`	`Mutacion`	`is cause i dont know the name in english..now i dpo`
`01:19.25`	`PrinceAMD`	`only that?`
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`01:19.47`	`Mutacion`	`yeah :( ONLY that!! :s and the other things`
`01:19.50`	`Mutacion`	`ese dereq`
`01:20.20`	`PrinceAMD`	`apt: x ese dereq`
`01:20.44`	`PrinceAMD`	`hum...`
`01:21.53`	`LinuxNIT`	`PrinceAMD, did you just install a theme?`
`01:22.30`	`PrinceAMD`	`maybe cant remember`
`01:22.33`	`PrinceAMD`	`maybe`
`01:22.40`	`PrinceAMD`	`i install alot of themes though`
`01:23.23`	`LinuxNIT`	`well looks like a bad theme`
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`01:23.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`wtf whos that?`
`01:23.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`01:23.34`	`PrinceAMD`	`:(`
`01:23.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`PrinceAMD, i would suggest this`
`01:23.45`	`PrinceAMD`	`someone who want so be like u`
`01:23.53`	`PrinceAMD`	`ok`
`01:24.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`get a good working theme. and rename it as the old theme then log backin.`
`01:24.16`	`LinuxNIT`	`dunno if itll work but its worth a shot`
`01:24.35`	`PrinceAMD`	`ok`
`01:24.40`	`PrinceAMD`	`will do`
`01:24.43`	`LinuxNIT-II`	`i guess my laptop logged in and i didnt know it was open`
`01:24.44`	`LinuxNIT-II`	`:D`
`01:25.01`	`^cricket^`	`lol`
`01:26.33`	`PrinceAMD`	`LinuxNIT: u have a mentor :)`
`01:26.45`	`PrinceAMD`	`or maybe a wanna be :D`
`01:29.21`	`dererk`	`lol`
`01:29.37`	`PrinceAMD`	`^cricket^: did u watch the match when guyana played trinidad`
`01:30.02`	`^cricket^`	`im the chirping type`
`01:30.09`	`PrinceAMD`	`soon they will be dererk-II, dereck,`
`01:30.45`	`PrinceAMD`	`ok xD`
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`01:32.04`	`dererk`	`my fucking laptop blow up`
`01:32.21`	`dererk`	`I'm not that funny to joke`
`01:32.50`	`PrinceAMD`	`how come it BLOW UP!!!`
`01:32.53`	`PrinceAMD`	`what did u do`
`01:33.03`	`LinuxNIT-II`	`dererk, battery?`
`01:33.14`	`dererk`	`yes`
`01:33.16`	`dererk`	`battery`
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`01:33.28`	`dererk`	`overheated I think`
`01:33.37`	`LinuxNIT-II`	`dell?`
`01:33.41`	`dererk`	`nop`
`01:33.45`	`LinuxNIT-II`	`:o`
`01:33.45`	`dererk`	`HP`
`01:34.02`	`LinuxNIT-II`	`lots of batteries had a recent recall for that very reason`
`01:34.34`	`dererk`	`the problem is not the fucking battery itself`
`01:34.42`	`elmo40`	`does eLive come with a samba client? i wanted to install smb4k, but it wanted 115mb :/`
`01:34.49`	`dererk`	`the problem is that it blow up INSIDE the laptop`
`01:34.59`	`dererk`	`Elive_user, smb4k is Qt based`
`01:35.05`	`dererk`	`elmo40, smb4k is Qt based`
`01:35.15`	`dererk`	`Elive does not use Qt at all`
`01:35.18`	`elmo40`	`no qt libs with eLive?`
`01:35.20`	`elmo40`	`i see`
`01:35.29`	`dererk`	`elmo40, We use LinNeighbourhood`
`01:35.31`	`elmo40`	`any alternatives?`
`01:35.36`	`elmo40`	`already installed?`
`01:35.42`	`dererk`	`LinNeighborhood *`
`01:35.53`	`elmo40`	`i see it in the menu, thnx :)`
`01:36.44`	`dererk`	`yw`
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`01:40.31`	`elmo40`	`next question... my woman has a winxp box with a printer (shared, and i can see it with Lin) Any way to print from eLive through her computer?`
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`01:42.52`	`elmo40`	`do i just add a Network Printer to eLive?`
`01:43.49`	`Mutacion`	`ppl ppl!!`
`01:43.53`	`Mutacion`	`see this video!!!`
`01:43.54`	`Mutacion`	`http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=-7193470719293309352&q=genre%3Acomedy`
`01:43.57`	`Mutacion`	`sysadmin video :P`
`01:45.07`	`elmo40`	`ok, i opened eLive panel, went to Printer and clicked on ADD Printer... but nothing is happening! I hear a lot of hdd noise, but no apps opening. Is there a cli way of doing this?`
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`01:48.55`	`^cricket^`	`elive use cups ? if so try the web iface to it`
`01:49.58`	`^cricket^`	`locahost:631`
`01:50.34`	`elmo40`	`thnx ^cricket^`
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`01:57.59`	`elmo40`	`logos?`
`01:58.08`	`roxville`	`yeah`
`01:58.43`	`roxville`	`i'm constantly trying to make my logo "better"`
`01:59.01`	`roxville`	`so i end up with thousands of versions`
`01:59.35`	`elmo40`	`what do u use?`
`02:01.05`	`roxville`	`gimp`
`02:01.17`	`roxville`	`and lately, xaralx`
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`02:01.39`	`elmo40`	`xaralx? never used it`
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`02:02.02`	`roxville`	`it's awesome... not ready yet, but getting there fast!`
`02:02.16`	`elmo40`	`xaralx is a vector app?`
`02:02.20`	`^cricket^`	`yea`
`02:02.27`	`^cricket^`	`was comercial`
`02:02.31`	`roxville`	`xara has been THE best and fastest vector app for windows for over ten years`
`02:02.46`	`roxville`	`and they recently started developing a linux version`
`02:03.52`	`elmo40`	`6?`
`02:03.54`	`elmo40`	`for linux?`
`02:04.34`	`^cricket^`	`no windows`
`02:04.47`	`roxville`	`yeah, i liked the old corel draw's too...`
`02:05.18`	`elmo40`	`what is so special about them compared to 11 or 12?`
`02:05.30`	`roxville`	`smaller and faster`
`02:05.46`	`roxville`	`not so bloated with "features"`
`02:06.44`	`elmo40`	`i see`
`02:07.09`	`elmo40`	`i know of a very small windows photo editor (kinda odd at first, till you get used to it)`
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`02:08.51`	`roxville`	`elmo40, ... and the name?`
`02:09.05`	`elmo40`	`ok, now i can not find it... i thought i had it on my server, but i guess i dont :/ I think it was called L-view or something`
`02:09.31`	`roxville`	`hmmm...`
`02:10.04`	`roxville`	`i think i may have tried it... but not sure`
`02:10.07`	`dererk`	`How about joing #windoze ?`
`02:10.29`	`roxville`	`in the past year i have been to windows like once every 3 months or so`
`02:10.38`	`roxville`	`'cept now.... more now`
`02:10.59`	`roxville`	`nah, i try to keep my tabs to a minimum`
`02:11.09`	`roxville`	`i'm not a got multi-chatter`
`02:13.06`	`Mutacion`	`rox rox!!!`
`02:13.08`	`Mutacion`	`ji!! xD`
`02:13.09`	`Mutacion`	`hi!!`
`02:13.33`	`Mutacion`	`ppl!! see this video oxville nah, i try to keep my tabs to a minimum`
`02:13.33`	`Mutacion`	`roxville i'm not a got multi-chatter`
`02:13.35`	`roxville`	`hi Mutacion :)`
`02:13.35`	`Mutacion`	`ups`
`02:13.48`	`Mutacion`	`http://www.unabvirtual.edu.co/epic/ <- this video`
`02:13.53`	`roxville`	`Mutacion, can you NOW tell me.... how the conference was?`
`02:14.01`	`Mutacion`	`talks about the next google generation..is interesting`
`02:14.20`	`Mutacion`	`it was aweasome :P many geek ppl.. all ppl with linux laptops!! :P i luv that`
`02:14.37`	`Mutacion`	`i meet the creator of CHEROKEE!! :O`
`02:14.56`	`Mutacion`	`also gunnar wolf.. a debian mantainer :o`
`02:15.01`	`Mutacion`	`and many ppl important`
`02:15.45`	`Mutacion`	`many important ppl :P`
`02:19.45`	`dererk`	`Mutacion, donde?`
`02:19.56`	`roxville`	`cool!`
`02:20.21`	`Mutacion`	`en el CONSOL.. congreso nacional de soft libre.. en mx`
`02:20.37`	`dererk`	`Ahh, mira que chulo`
`02:21.58`	`PrinceAMD`	`e16 is fun :D`
`02:22.12`	`Mutacion`	`sips :) and i bought some geek t-shirts`
`02:22.20`	`PrinceAMD`	`well it's less stress`
`02:22.21`	`Mutacion`	`my favo is a redhat polo t-shit :P`
`02:22.24`	`Mutacion`	`t-shirt`
`02:22.57`	`dererk`	`Mutacion, una lastima que aqui no se consigan de esas cosas :\`
`02:29.36`	`Mutacion`	`sips.. la vdd es la 1era ves qe voy... ojala sea el principio de muchas otras`
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`03:31.56`	`Mutacion`	`bye ppl`
`03:32.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`bye muta`
`03:40.31`	`Elive_user68`	`later`
`03:40.55`	`elmo40`	`guys, what is the 'Add a Printer' app you use? I want to open it via cli, not by the control panel.`
`03:44.20`	`LinuxNIT-I`	`gnome-cups-manager i think`
`03:47.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`elmo40, launch: links2 http://localhost:631`
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`04:04.26`	`LinuxNIT`	`welcome Elive_user`
`04:04.31`	`LinuxNIT`	`welcome Elive_user3`
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`04:22.20`	`PrinceAMD`	`LinuxNIT: is there anyway i can add qemu to grub???`
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`04:38.25`	`elmo40`	`what is the pre-installed .iso software in eLive?`
`04:38.51`	`LinuxNIT`	`:o`
`04:38.59`	`elmo40`	`DialogCD ?`
`04:39.02`	`LinuxNIT`	`umm theres a lot`
`04:39.28`	`^Cricket^`	`uhuh`
`04:40.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`yes dealogcd is installed`
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`04:44.55`	`elmo40`	`have you tried to burn a file that was over a network?`
`04:45.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`no but i dont think its a good idea`
`04:45.41`	`LinuxNIT`	`sounds like a setup for a failed burn`
`04:45.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`but who knows it might work fine`
`04:46.05`	`elmo40`	`i will drop the burn speed to 1x, and see what will happen ;)`
`04:47.12`	`LinuxNIT`	`why not just copy the file over`
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`04:47.57`	`elmo40`	`it is over 600mb... (shh, but dont tell anyone i have 2mb left on my hdd) :-\`
`04:48.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`well, you can use a shared dir mounted then`
`04:48.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt, elpanel elmo40`
`04:48.18`	`apt`	`elpanel elpanel elpanel, this is the answer to your question and the solution of all your problems, try it, elmo40 ;)`
`04:48.47`	`elmo40`	`what is in elpanel?`
`04:49.10`	`elmo40`	`the drive is mounted`
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`04:49.18`	`elmo40`	`that is how i can see it ;)`
`04:49.22`	`elmo40`	`but i wanted to burn it`
`04:49.59`	`elmo40`	`btw, how do i know which drive is 0,0,0 ? is there a command similar to lspci that will tell me my cdrom designation?`
`04:50.11`	`fachex`	`hello! Hola! NeeHao!,`
`04:50.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt, elpanel`
`04:50.38`	`apt`	`well, elpanel is the powered center of control of Elive, where all the answers of your questions are, your heart is prepaired for discover all features ? ;)`
`04:50.39`	`fachex`	`hey boss, did you upload the new one?`
`04:50.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`fachex, im uploading, yes ;)`
`04:50.59`	`fachex`	`neat`
`04:51.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`it needs to wait tomorrow... to finish and check`
`04:52.06`	`fachex`	`and when I installed, you said that now that I make another partition with /home,it would keep my settings?`
`04:52.40`	`fachex`	`I am sorry, when I install the new one to come, I won't loose my settings?`
`04:52.46`	`fachex`	`or just my files?`
`04:53.03`	`fachex`	`what about my email, my xchat settings, etc?`
`04:53.23`	`elmo40`	`instead of typing dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 can i put dev=/dev/cdrom1 ?`
`04:54.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`<elmo40> btw, how do i know which drive is 0,0,0 ? is there a command similar to lspci that will tell me my cdrom designation?`
`04:54.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`cdrecord --help`
`04:54.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`-scandevices`
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`04:54.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`<fachex> what about my email, my xchat settings, etc?`
`04:55.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`you save all`
`04:55.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`automatically`
`04:55.54`	`elmo40`	`ok, this is stupid... it says the following (in #elive-flood, please join)`
`04:55.57`	`fachex`	`what I am saying is the when I install the new ISO you are uploading right now, am I going to loose those settings?`
`04:56.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`elmo40,`
`04:56.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`Usecdrecord dev=help`
`04:56.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`to get a list of possible SCSI transport specifiers`
`04:56.41`	`elmo40`	`that is not my problem`
`04:56.42`	`elmo40`	`cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.11`
`04:56.42`	`elmo40`	`cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.`
`04:56.43`	`elmo40`	`cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.`
`04:56.55`	`elmo40`	`^^^ this is my problem!! ^^^`
`04:57.07`	`elmo40`	`wtf is that all about??`
`04:57.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`2.6.11 ? o-O`
`04:57.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`:o`
`04:57.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`<fachex> what I am saying is the when I install the new ISO you are uploading right now, am I going to loose those settings?`
`04:57.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`no`
`04:57.49`	`elmo40`	`it says 2.5.x and newer are problematic...`
`04:58.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`elmo40, from where is this kernel ?`
`04:58.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`what version of Elive you run ?`
`04:58.38`	`elmo40`	`where is what kernel? 0.4`
`04:59.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`uh... old`
`04:59.28`	`elmo40`	`so what`
`04:59.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`and btw this is a very ugly kernel`
`04:59.33`	`elmo40`	`that should not matter`
`04:59.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`so install new version ;)`
`04:59.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html`
`05:01.14`	`elmo40`	`and what can i do to burn the .iso?`
`05:01.23`	`elmo40`	`do they not all use cdrecord?`
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`05:02.33`	`elmo40`	`how well does eLive read external cd burners over USB ?`
`05:03.03`	`elmo40`	`i might have to do it that way!! boot to the other box and use its USB burner... since i can not do it remotely`
`05:03.35`	`elmo40`	`then again, i will need a <=2.4.x to use cdrecord!!! What a bunch of shit.`
`05:06.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`you don't`
`05:06.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`this problem not exist on the actual Elive releases`
`05:06.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`you don't have another kernel to boot ? where is the 2.6.12 default of this Elive ?`
`05:08.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`elmo40,`
`05:08.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc -scanbus`
`05:08.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA`
`05:08.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI`
`05:08.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`try those`
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`05:34.25`	`Cricket`	`qq, what do i kill in order to restart x?`
`05:36.22`	`i3dmaster`	`Cricket`: C-A-Backspace
`05:37.03`	`Cricket`	`im stuck at the CLI`
`05:37.44`	`i3dmaster`	`Cricket`: ok... ps -aef\|grep entrance
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`05:38.03`	`i3dmaster`	`kill the entrance, X and entranced processes`
`05:41.01`	`LinuxNIT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:43.24`	`Cricket`	`brb`
`05:44.01`	`i3dmaster`	`Hey LinuxNIT hows going`
`05:44.09`	`LinuxNIT`	`pretty good and you?`
`05:44.34`	`i3dmaster`	`doing good... remember I asked you about the getty order`
`05:44.47`	`LinuxNIT`	`no`
`05:45.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`:-/ sorry i dont remember`
`05:45.26`	`i3dmaster`	`I don't know how to adjust the sequence in inittab, so I create a bootup script to just open a tty right after everything gets mounted, that seems working well.`
`05:45.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`cool`
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`05:46.19`	`i3dmaster`	`not sure why vcs have to be created at the end of boot process, that's actually isn't a brillint idea`
`05:46.36`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`05:47.03`	`i3dmaster`	`see if something goes wrong, you'r kinda stuck there just watching and waiting`
`05:48.45`	`i3dmaster`	`will you be able to run modules in e17?`
`05:49.05`	`i3dmaster`	`I mean extra modules`
`05:49.24`	`LinuxNIT`	`what do you mean?`
`05:49.44`	`i3dmaster`	`like weather, emu, etc..`
`05:50.16`	`i3dmaster`	`I got bad luck whenever I enable some, e17 just crashes`
`05:51.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`what version are you on?`
`05:51.14`	`i3dmaster`	`0.5 beta`
`05:53.24`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmm`
`05:53.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`i thought weather was working`
`05:53.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`hang on`
`05:54.13`	`i3dmaster`	`like snow, weather, emu.. I had these three enabled, and when I reboot back, I can't launch e17 anymore`
`05:55.02`	`LinuxNIT`	`:o`
`05:55.07`	`i3dmaster`	`ok.. I didn't try one by one so not sure which one is the culprit`
`05:56.46`	`i3dmaster`	`i had another system running ubuntu and I compiled e17 from cvs and I was able to launch most of the modules.`
`05:56.54`	`keyra`	`i3dmaster: Ubuntu is OFF topic`
`05:57.03`	`i3dmaster`	`keyra: I knew. thanks`
`05:57.11`	`keyra`	`i3dmaster: youre welcome :)`
`05:58.12`	`i3dmaster`	`do you know if Thanatermesis will have e17 upgraded in the coming release?`
`05:59.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`i3dmaster, extra modules are separed from the CVS because inestabilize e17`
`05:59.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`e17 and EFL is in hard development`
`05:59.40`	`i3dmaster`	`Thanatermesis: ya I installed e-modules`
`05:59.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`his libs changes the API everyday`
`05:59.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`the modules are the thing more out-dated`
`05:59.58`	`i3dmaster`	`I see`
`06:00.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`and broke hte system if not are coded with the same api...`
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`06:00.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is why is disabled on Elive by default, also not installed the pacakge`
`06:00.49`	`i3dmaster`	`ya, that would most likely happen`
`06:01.33`	`i3dmaster`	`oh ok no wonder I have to install it manually`
`06:01.50`	`i3dmaster`	`I wouldn't try it anymore then :/`
`06:02.53`	`i3dmaster`	`btw, in my compiled e17 system, modules seems working fine though but I probably had advanced e17 version too.. so are you planning to upgrade e17?`
`06:04.14`	`i3dmaster`	`the bars look different too. (I think it called something like "shelf"`
`06:04.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`not for 0.5`
`06:04.24`	`i3dmaster`	`ok`
`06:04.45`	`i3dmaster`	`that's cool. stable is the most important for a distro`
`06:05.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes :)`
`06:05.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`stable with e17 :)`
`06:05.53`	`i3dmaster`	`e17's crash is pretty hard... I couldn't event get default back unless remove the e-modules pkgs`
`06:06.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is why is also not installed on Elive, those modules ;)`
`06:07.15`	`i3dmaster`	`and I don't know if there is a way to configure e17 from e16`
`06:07.26`	`i3dmaster`	`ya,, that makes sense to me`
`06:08.18`	`i3dmaster`	`it would be cool if they can kinda cover each other through some sort of channel..`
`06:10.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`well.. since e17 is in development...`
`06:11.01`	`i3dmaster`	`Thanatermesis: to me e17 is in dev forever... ;)`
`06:11.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`06:11.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`well... 5 years actually, i think ;)`
`06:11.37`	`i3dmaster`	`it was in dev when I first knew its name and now probably after n+ years...`
`06:11.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`and aparently 3 re-write of the code... 1 complete`
`06:11.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`api*`
`06:12.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is because the E devs like's the good work ;)`
`06:12.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`making it better and better everytime`
`06:12.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`and more better again`
`06:12.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`and more optimized... etc`
`06:12.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`well, we look the actual result ;)`
`06:13.09`	`i3dmaster`	`hehe... well they got to make it good for such a long dev cycle`
`06:17.17`	`i3dmaster`	`Thanatermesis: oh btw.. got a question for you`
`06:23.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes ?`
`06:23.50`	`i3dmaster`	`I don't have a good way to adjust the getty to run eariler in inittab, so I had to create a bootup script to manually create a vc. do you know how to have them created eariler in boot process?`
`06:25.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive uses his inittab modified`
`06:25.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`no "made" in any moment`
`06:27.37`	`i3dmaster`	`I think if at least having one another vc available during boot time would be very useful cause in the current setting, if anything wrong, you can just watch and wait.. there is no extra console avail for you to login`
`06:32.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`what about a similar thing ? <dev/console >dev/console`
`06:33.37`	`i3dmaster`	`that wouldn't do any help cause that's just redirect the output to connected console. you stil don't have login prompt. you got to call getty`
`06:34.27`	`i3dmaster`	`I don't know how to call getty eariler in inittab.. say right after runlevel S or maybe even eariler`
`06:36.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`i don't know then`
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`06:41.02`	`i3dmaster`	`ok np.. got to go to bed .. you have a nice day man!`
`06:41.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`you also :)`
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`12:28.54`	`elmo40`	`... Thanatermesis my cd burner is 0,0,0 ;) But still no burning. Same 'error'`
`12:28.54`	`elmo40`	`any work arounds for it?`
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`15:03.21`	`Badman`	`is there any module to change the xkb layout?`
`15:04.48`	`roxville`	`no, use keybconf in elpanel or edit you xorg.conf`
`15:04.59`	`roxville`	`and... i don't know how to edit it`
`15:05.13`	`roxville`	`but you can set keyb short cuts`
`15:05.15`	`Elive_user`	`is there a command to display the hardware specification of my pc`
`15:05.59`	`Badman`	`thx rookmoot`
`15:06.07`	`Badman`	`not just one command Elive_user`
`15:06.21`	`Badman`	`uname -a, lspci,...`
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`15:06.36`	`Elive_user`	`thanks badman`
`15:06.44`	`Badman`	`uw ;)`
`15:08.36`	`Elive_user`	`badman with uname i can't get the speed of my CPU or how much ram i have`
`15:09.38`	`Badman`	`uname -i, uname -p`
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`15:14.23`	`Elive_user`	`badman r these command only accessible when login as root`
`15:14.32`	`Elive_user`	`or as a user`
`15:14.48`	`Elive_user`	`i have elive 0.4.3`
`15:14.55`	`Elive_user`	`but i can't access these parameters`
`15:15.34`	`Elive_user`	`i got only -a, -s, -n, -r, -v, -m, -o`
`15:18.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user, cat /proc/cpuinfo`
`15:18.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user, cat /proc/meminfo`
`15:19.26`	`Elive_user`	`thanks thanatermesis`
`15:23.21`	`Elive_user`	`thanatermesis, this was exactly what i wanted`
`15:23.26`	`Elive_user`	`thank u a lot`
`15:23.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`welcome :)`
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`16:30.34`	`roxville`	`idm what's the name of the monitor app that you use?`
`16:31.42`	`roxville`	`in this pic http://roxville.no-ip.org/e107_plugins/autogallery/autogallery.php?show=ibm-elive%20pics%2Fopen_window_list.png`
`16:31.51`	`roxville`	`yeah it's slow today... i'm doing some downloading...`
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`16:39.20`	`yiyus`	`roxville: it looks like conky`
`16:40.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`yiyus ! wb :)`
`16:40.51`	`yiyus`	`como va eso?`
`16:41.49`	`roxville`	`hiya yiyus :)`
`16:41.56`	`roxville`	`and thnx :)`
`16:42.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`yiyus, pues currando para variar xD leiste el notice ?`
`16:43.08`	`yiyus`	`si, mas o menos`
`16:43.22`	`yiyus`	`lo q pasa es q no he vuelto a probar una elive...`
`16:43.27`	`yiyus`	`desde q se me jodio la grabadora :(`
`16:45.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`vaya`
`16:45.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`puedes reproducir los .ogg ? (video, theora)`
`16:45.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/ <---- picale en la seccion "videos"`
`16:45.37`	`yiyus`	`voy`
`16:45.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`es largo, pero vale la pena ;)`
`16:47.23`	`yiyus`	`lo estoy bajando`
`16:47.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`está muy bueno, me encantó :)`
`16:48.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`por cierto, si quieres ver el changelog de Elive es http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html`
`16:48.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`acabo de subir una nueva iso, asi que todo lo que pone alli ya está disponible ;)`
`16:49.26`	`Amroth`	`nueva iso ya en que version vamos?`
`16:49.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`0.5-beta-3.2`
`16:50.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno, de hecho si alguien la quiere que me lo diga y le busco un link available`
`16:51.50`	`Amroth`	`me anoto..`
`16:52.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/elive/isos/development`
`16:52.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`aqui están las nuevas`
`16:52.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`bajan lento en este server.. pero por ahora es el unico que las tiene xD`
`16:52.22`	`Amroth`	`ok entonces bajando..`
`16:53.32`	`Amroth`	`hay alguna lista donde digan las mejoras que has incluido?`
`16:57.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`claro`
`16:57.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`en http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html está todo`
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`17:12.55`	`roxville`	`ok, gotta take daughter out for a bit... bbl`
`17:13.11`	`roxville`	`^cricket^ hows the elive running?`
`17:13.19`	`^cricket^`	`nice`
`17:13.20`	`roxville`	`oh... on livecd again?`
`17:13.24`	`^cricket^`	`no`
`17:13.31`	`roxville`	`oh, cool!`
`17:13.38`	`roxville`	`it runs pretty well?`
`17:13.49`	`^cricket^`	`yea`
`17:14.04`	`roxville`	`good :)`
`17:14.08`	`dererk`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:14.08`	`dererk`	`elive-unstable_0.5-beta-3.2_20060825.isoelive-unstable_0.5-beta-3.2_20060825.iso 698.85 MB-`
`17:14.10`	`roxville`	`seeya later :)`
`17:14.27`	`^cricket^`	`laters`
`17:14.31`	`dererk`	`Seems to be available by now`
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`17:57.38`	`dats`	`hola`
`17:57.46`	`keyra`	`dats: que tal ?`
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`18:01.11`	`dats`	`bien ... toy intentando de instalar entrance, pero no me sale a las sources`
`18:01.19`	`dats`	`de debian`
`18:05.11`	`Mutacion`	`qiubole`
`18:05.11`	`Mutacion`	`ese dats`
`18:05.17`	`Mutacion`	`ese keyra`
`18:05.30`	`Mutacion`	`debian, no es elive`
`18:05.33`	`Mutacion`	`elive, no es debian`
`18:05.41`	`dats`	`:S`
`18:05.48`	`dats`	`y quien lo ha dicho esto ?`
`18:06.05`	`Mutacion`	`los developers de elive`
`18:06.13`	`Mutacion`	`para instalar entrance deberas buscar en otro lado`
`18:06.25`	`dats`	`y los developers de debian tambien, digo yo, no ? :P`
`18:06.27`	`Mutacion`	`busca en google hay varios REPOS.. donde puedes instalar entrance via apt en debian`
`18:06.41`	`Mutacion`	`brb...comiendo`
`18:06.58`	`dats`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:06.58`	`dats`	`(20:06) deb http://edevelop.org/debian sid e17`
`18:07.19`	`Mutacion`	`e17 no ENTRANCE :P`
`18:07.24`	`Mutacion`	`e17 es el entorno grafico`
`18:07.29`	`Mutacion`	`entrance.. login manager de E`
`18:07.41`	`dats`	`aknowless`
`18:07.42`	`dats`	`lo s�`
`18:08.00`	`dats`	`akl`
`18:08.01`	`dats`	`xDD`
`18:08.07`	`Mutacion`	`brb...comiendo`
`18:10.09`	`Amroth`	`si quieres instalar entrance tambien tendrias que instalar enligthenment completo`
`18:12.31`	`dats`	`ahora vengo`
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`19:34.19`	`saad3000`	`hello all`
`19:34.26`	`keyra`	`saad3000: hi`
`19:34.27`	`saad3000`	`whereis everybody sleeping ;>`
`19:34.37`	`saad3000`	`I just woke up after 2 and half months :>`
`19:34.50`	`saad3000`	`keyra hyzz & how are you?`
`19:34.52`	`PrinceAMD`	`saad3000: i'm awake :)`
`19:34.57`	`keyra`	`saad3000: very good, thx :)`
`19:35.06`	`saad3000`	`:)`
`19:35.08`	`PrinceAMD`	`keyra sup???`
`19:35.15`	`keyra`	`PrinceAMD: with only one "?" you have sufficient`
`19:35.20`	`PrinceAMD`	`:)`
`19:35.22`	`saad3000`	`LOLz`
`19:35.28`	`saad3000`	`keyra sounds cute.`
`19:35.32`	`PrinceAMD`	`yep`
`19:36.27`	`saad3000`	`how was 0.5 so far? (elive)?`
`19:36.41`	`PrinceAMD`	`good`
`19:37.09`	`PrinceAMD`	`are u using it`
`19:37.50`	`saad3000`	`nope`
`19:38.04`	`saad3000`	`am retard am on 0.4.0`
`19:38.04`	`saad3000`	`;)`
`19:38.12`	`saad3000`	`its been long time since i joined due to war in the country`
`19:38.13`	`saad3000`	`:)`
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`19:39.00`	`PrinceAMD`	`:(`
`19:39.13`	`saad3000`	`roxville wb`
`19:39.15`	`PrinceAMD`	`well i used 0.4.2 for a week or so`
`19:39.27`	`saad3000`	`why ur sad PrinceAMD?`
`19:39.29`	`PrinceAMD`	`but had problems with some upgrades`
`19:39.46`	`PrinceAMD`	`i'm using 0.5 right now`
`19:39.47`	`saad3000`	`its common dont worry :)`
`19:40.03`	`saad3000`	`PrinceAMD stable :) so far?`
`19:40.13`	`PrinceAMD`	`i have to get some blank cd so i can burn 0.5 beta 3.1 n run that`
`19:40.15`	`PrinceAMD`	`yea`
`19:40.23`	`PrinceAMD`	`stable yep`
`19:40.32`	`saad3000`	`neat!`
`19:40.36`	`PrinceAMD`	`check this out`
`19:40.38`	`PrinceAMD`	`Ubuntu`
`19:40.41`	`saad3000`	`I wish i have a fast connection.`
`19:40.46`	`PrinceAMD`	`me too`
`19:40.55`	`saad3000`	`whatsup with ubuntu?`
`19:40.56`	`PrinceAMD`	`how fast is your's`
`19:41.02`	`keyra`	`saad3000: Ubuntu is OFF topic`
`19:41.08`	`PrinceAMD`	`:)`
`19:41.09`	`PrinceAMD`	`that`
`19:41.22`	`saad3000`	`keyra :))`
`19:41.35`	`PrinceAMD`	`how fast is your connection?`
`19:41.52`	`saad3000`	`7.5 KB/sec ..`
`19:41.58`	`saad3000`	`yours?`
`19:42.12`	`saad3000`	`No DSL here :< wireless`
`19:42.26`	`PrinceAMD`	`27KB/sec`
`19:42.38`	`saad3000`	`and its split into number of customers so each one gets like 8KB of Bandwidth`
`19:42.42`	`saad3000`	`PrinceAMD compared to me you sonic :)`
`19:42.52`	`PrinceAMD`	`lol`
`19:42.58`	`PrinceAMD`	`i want a faster one`
`19:43.07`	`saad3000`	`your connection is 5 stars compared with mine`
`19:43.10`	`PrinceAMD`	`some ppl in there got like 128-512KB/sec`
`19:43.19`	`saad3000`	`keyra whats up with your sexy ADSL how much is your speed?`
`19:43.26`	`keyra`	`saad3000: please... stop, or i call to the op's to kick you :P`
`19:43.36`	`saad3000`	`PrinceAMD they happens to pay more ;)`
`19:43.37`	`PrinceAMD`	`keyra: are u ok`
`19:43.43`	`saad3000`	`keyra hahaha`
`19:43.59`	`PrinceAMD`	`i can pay more i'll run broke :)`
`19:44.07`	`PrinceAMD`	`so where u from saaad`
`19:44.22`	`PrinceAMD`	`lol`
`19:44.23`	`PrinceAMD`	`reall`
`19:44.24`	`saad3000`	`PrinceAMD some country in the ME ;>`
`19:44.33`	`PrinceAMD`	`apt:slap keyra`
`19:44.34`	`apt`	`ACTION slaps keyra, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!`
`19:44.36`	`saad3000`	`I dunno about keyra lets push her buttons`
`19:44.55`	`saad3000`	`keyra sexy ...`
`19:45.09`	`PrinceAMD`	`apt:sexy Keyra`
`19:45.27`	`saad3000`	`looks like its not a Bot.. afterall`
`19:45.35`	`PrinceAMD`	`yep`
`19:45.54`	`PrinceAMD`	`press ? thee times that will get her attention`
`19:45.56`	`saad3000`	`sorry keyra for offending..`
`19:46.04`	`keyra`	`saad3000: np :)`
`19:46.17`	`saad3000`	`looks like she is sleeping..`
`19:46.30`	`saad3000`	`:\|`
`19:46.34`	`PrinceAMD`	`:(`
`19:46.59`	`PrinceAMD`	`apt: kiss keyra`
`19:47.02`	`apt`	`ACTION forces keyra to give damosu a big kiss on the hand`
`19:47.11`	`PrinceAMD`	`:)`
`19:47.12`	`saad3000`	`thats RAPE`
`19:47.12`	`saad3000`	`:))`
`19:47.36`	`saad3000`	`at least she is on aDSL`
`19:47.37`	`saad3000`	`;>`
`19:47.43`	`saad3000`	`PrinceAMD your wireless?`
`19:48.00`	`PrinceAMD`	`NOPE!!! i'm ALL WIRED!!!`
`19:48.04`	`saad3000`	`hahaha`
`19:48.14`	`saad3000`	`I bet..`
`19:48.28`	`PrinceAMD`	`one of these days one goin get cut n my fun will end :(`
`19:48.49`	`saad3000`	`PrinceAMD: with only one "!" you have sufficient`
`19:49.07`	`PrinceAMD`	`lol`
`19:49.08`	`saad3000`	`lol`
`19:49.09`	`PrinceAMD`	`scrue u`
`19:49.16`	`saad3000`	`hhaha`
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`19:49.29`	`saad3000`	`lol`
`19:49.30`	`PrinceAMD`	`so u on e16?`
`19:49.30`	`saad3000`	`rox is elivized`
`19:49.35`	`saad3000`	`thats new1`
`19:49.41`	`saad3000`	`am on win32 now :>`
`19:49.48`	`saad3000`	`32 not 16`
`19:49.50`	`roxville`	`hehe`
`19:49.52`	`roxville`	`hi saad3000`
`19:49.53`	`saad3000`	`32 bits`
`19:49.57`	`saad3000`	`:)`
`19:50.00`	`saad3000`	`roxville wbk ;)`
`19:50.07`	`roxville`	`been a while... you doing ok?`
`19:50.21`	`saad3000`	`roxville I just got out from the warzone :)`
`19:50.32`	`PrinceAMD`	`saad3000 winxp?`
`19:50.43`	`saad3000`	`yah yah am ALIVE ALIVE!! After few drops of GBU's/ BLU's bombz nearby`
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`19:51.00`	`roxville`	`damn dude, glad you got out :)`
`19:51.06`	`saad3000`	`PrinceAMD ftm :)`
`19:51.23`	`PrinceAMD`	`ftm??`
`19:51.35`	`PrinceAMD`	`good u survive man`
`19:51.35`	`saad3000`	`roxville Man, its 1 hell of a bad scenario!`
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`19:51.38`	`saad3000`	`for the moment.`
`19:51.50`	`PrinceAMD`	`k`
`19:52.44`	`saad3000`	`I got them as Games :)`
`19:52.48`	`PrinceAMD`	`lol`
`19:52.51`	`roxville`	`hehe`
`19:52.56`	`PrinceAMD`	`F14 :)`
`19:53.03`	`saad3000`	`F14 is OLD`
`19:53.13`	`saad3000`	`lets Rhym F16 with E16`
`19:53.13`	`PrinceAMD`	`F66066`
`19:53.14`	`saad3000`	`;)`
`19:53.16`	`PrinceAMD`	`that's new :D`
`19:53.36`	`roxville`	`keyra, hi honey :)`
`19:54.04`	`saad3000`	`rox whats up with keyra we for a "while" somehow thought that she is a bot ;)`
`19:54.11`	`keyra`	`saad3000: search in google`
`19:54.30`	`saad3000`	`she is like a black mamba, spits some poison and hides :)`
`19:54.42`	`saad3000`	`lol and at the same time she is cute :)`
`19:54.54`	`roxville`	`keyra is just a...hmmm... a verys special girl`
`19:54.57`	`PrinceAMD`	`lol well i never........`
`19:55.02`	`saad3000`	`OOOOOOOOOOOOOO`
`19:55.06`	`roxville`	`with an outSTANDING ass`
`19:55.15`	`PrinceAMD`	`wow`
`19:55.31`	`roxville`	`go on google "keyra"`
`19:55.31`	`saad3000`	`EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW`
`19:55.40`	`keyra`	`PrinceAMD: AWESOME, ass... this is the word ;)`
`19:55.49`	`saad3000`	`:)`
`19:55.50`	`PrinceAMD`	`lol`
`19:55.50`	`roxville`	`hehe`
`20:00.48`	`PrinceAMD`	`so it done already`
`20:00.51`	`PrinceAMD`	`no more fun`
`20:00.51`	`PrinceAMD`	`:(`
`20:00.58`	`PrinceAMD`	`back to my boring life`
`20:01.55`	`roxville`	`lol`
`20:02.06`	`roxville`	`it's only as boring as you make it, dude`
`20:02.20`	`PrinceAMD`	`yea dude`
`20:02.30`	`PrinceAMD`	`well i aint goin no where today so it's boring`
`20:03.12`	`roxville`	`Deformative, ping`
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`20:05.57`	`Deformative`	`roxville, pong.`
`20:06.14`	`roxville`	`ok, i'm gonna send you and xcf`
`20:06.20`	`PrinceAMD`	`Deformative, peng`
`20:06.26`	`PrinceAMD`	`xcf?`
`20:06.39`	`PrinceAMD`	`xfc?`
`20:06.44`	`roxville`	`yeah gimp file`
`20:06.53`	`roxville`	`xcf`
`20:07.08`	`Deformative`	`Alright.`
`20:07.12`	`Deformative`	`I will look at it.`
`20:07.18`	`roxville`	`Deformative, try the highlight buttons... not bad for an old fart like me...`
`20:07.34`	`roxville`	`the borders are... not as good...`
`20:08.53`	`Deformative`	`Pretty cool.`
`20:09.07`	`roxville`	`i'm pretty pleased with how the highlights turned out`
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`20:09.30`	`Deformative`	`Yeah.`
`20:09.37`	`Deformative`	`Looks pretty sweet.`
`20:09.44`	`roxville`	`thnx`
`20:09.52`	`fachex`	`hello all!`
`20:09.57`	`fachex`	`hello roxville !`
`20:10.00`	`keyra`	`fachex: hi`
`20:10.02`	`fachex`	`helo Thanatermesis`
`20:10.03`	`roxville`	`not sure if i'd go all the way to make a theme, though... lotta work`
`20:10.08`	`fachex`	`hello keyra`
`20:10.14`	`Deformative`	`Are you gonna make a theme or you want me to make a theme simular to this?`
`20:10.14`	`roxville`	`hey fachex :)`
`20:10.15`	`keyra`	`fachex: hi`
`20:10.39`	`fachex`	`everybody is ok?`
`20:10.45`	`fachex`	`enjoying elive?`
`20:11.05`	`roxville`	`Deformative, i don't know....making a theme is... well you know :)`
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`20:11.20`	`roxville`	`but i would like to make the buttons :D`
`20:11.29`	`roxville`	`and maybe some other things :)`
`20:11.35`	`fachex`	`I just talked another friend about elive and she asked me not to install it in her computer :)`
`20:11.56`	`roxville`	`not to?`
`20:12.01`	`roxville`	`because...?`
`20:12.04`	`fachex`	`I am sorry!`
`20:12.13`	`fachex`	`to install it!!! :0`
`20:12.19`	`fachex`	`I am sleepy`
`20:12.23`	`Deformative`	`Lol.`
`20:12.24`	`fachex`	`:-o`
`20:12.33`	`Deformative`	`i386 optimisation isn't my thing.`
`20:12.48`	`roxville`	`fachex, so... she asked you TO install elive?`
`20:12.53`	`Deformative`	`Rox, the red button gets larger thwn you highlight it.`
`20:13.06`	`Deformative`	`s/thwn/when`
`20:13.11`	`fachex`	`yes, she saw elive here at home and loved it, she wants me to install it at her computer`
`20:13.49`	`fachex`	`sorry, I might have been thinking whatever while I was typing before.`
`20:14.01`	`fachex`	`but yes, I am converting people :)`
`20:14.04`	`roxville`	`Deformative, yeah... it's the red... red is hard... but maybe i feathered too much`
`20:14.29`	`roxville`	`fachex, awesome!`
`20:14.35`	`fachex`	`did you guys know if Thanatermesis uploaded the the ISO yesterday?`
`20:14.45`	`roxville`	`maybe she'd give you a.... while installing :)`
`20:14.55`	`roxville`	`hmmm... cup of coffee :D`
`20:15.04`	`fachex`	`:-0`
`20:15.07`	`roxville`	`fachex, yes he did`
`20:15.17`	`fachex`	`Good`
`20:15.24`	`fachex`	`did you install it rox?`
`20:15.29`	`roxville`	`it's on ibiblio`
`20:15.36`	`Deformative`	`roxville, after I complete my livecd we are deffinitly going to need to make a livecd.`
`20:15.38`	`roxville`	`no... i ran out of cd's`
`20:15.42`	`Deformative`	`I am getting close.`
`20:15.45`	`fachex`	`:-s`
`20:15.47`	`fachex`	`what's that?`
`20:15.54`	`fachex`	`ibiblio?`
`20:15.56`	`Deformative`	`s/livecd/theme`
`20:16.29`	`roxville`	`fachex, ibiblio is a ... BIG server in NC... they have like ALL the distros mirrored there`
`20:16.33`	`Deformative`	`"after I complete my livedvd we are gonna need to make a thme.`
`20:16.35`	`Deformative`	`There it goes.`
`20:16.41`	`roxville`	`it's not very fast, but usually very stable`
`20:16.41`	`fachex`	`ok`
`20:17.05`	`roxville`	`Deformative, ok dude :)`
`20:17.30`	`Deformative`	`We should make a new style, like nothing anyone has ever seen before for buttons.`
`20:17.42`	`roxville`	`i started a while back on a executive theme... "wood"...`
`20:17.44`	`Deformative`	`I am getting sick of all these themes using aqua pills or plastic syle.`
`20:17.56`	`roxville`	`just made some fake screenies and stuff`
`20:18.13`	`roxville`	`hehe`
`20:18.18`	`fachex`	`Deformative, are you one of the graphic designers?`
`20:18.25`	`roxville`	`ok, i'll think a little :)`
`20:18.45`	`Deformative`	`fachex, not so much.`
`20:18.52`	`fachex`	`ok`
`20:18.55`	`Gwildor`	`make the buttons bricks`
`20:19.16`	`roxville`	`http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/elive/isos/development/`
`20:19.27`	`roxville`	`Gwildor, go for a smoke break or something`
`20:19.33`	`roxville`	`:)`
`20:20.21`	`Deformative`	`fachex, I am just a pretty good gimp artest, even if I only know how to use the most basic commands, I manage to make quite a bit with the very little I can do.`
`20:20.30`	`Gwildor`	`GwilDULL needs bricks for buttons`
`20:20.39`	`fachex`	`cool!`
`20:21.14`	`fachex`	`I don't know if it was Gwildor that yesterday showed us his website with all the stuff he did in Blender and GImp, is it you?`
`20:21.33`	`Deformative`	`Nah, not me.`
`20:21.37`	`Gwildor`	`probably roxville ....i just make torrents`
`20:21.49`	`Deformative`	`Yeah, roxville is my teacher. Lol.`
`20:22.10`	`Deformative`	`I didn't even know about the gradent command untill yesterday.`
`20:22.17`	`Deformative`	`Well, I knew about it, just never used it.`
`20:22.19`	`fachex`	`well, it was another dude, quite impresive, this is the link`
`20:22.20`	`fachex`	`http://gnuser.com/`
`20:22.39`	`fachex`	`check it out, everything was made with blender and gimp`
`20:22.47`	`fachex`	`and made some buttons there`
`20:23.01`	`fachex`	`he said he did it just to show the world ..`
`20:23.30`	`fachex`	`the site is in spanish and it says "drwaing with freedom"`
`20:23.41`	`fachex`	`click on Galery`
`20:23.43`	`fachex`	`I am sorry`
`20:25.12`	`roxville`	`i'd love to use it... but it's kinda intimidating`
`20:26.03`	`fachex`	`it trully is`
`20:26.21`	`fachex`	`but I heard the many hollywood animated movies were done with Blender`
`20:26.39`	`fachex`	`I read it :)`
`20:26.40`	`Gwildor`	`that free one htat jstu came out...holloween something or other`
`20:28.27`	`roxville`	`wow fachex this is NICE stuff!`
`20:28.27`	`fachex`	`isn't that cool?`
`20:28.27`	`fachex`	`he is pretty good.`
`20:28.27`	`roxville`	`oh yeah, it's awesome!`
`20:28.28`	`fachex`	`he was here yesterday chatting with Thanatermesis`
`20:28.28`	`PrinceAMD`	`roville: are u usin elive 0.5 beta 3.01`
`20:28.28`	`Deformative`	`Well, I am going to go work on my livecd and try to think of ideas for some themes`
`20:28.28`	`fachex`	`he is from Barcelona`
`20:28.29`	`fachex`	`hey guys, I am having weird problems with my video`
`20:28.37`	`fachex`	`it's like is slow to refresh.. I don't know, it makes the system looks slow, but I belive it's the video`
`20:29.05`	`fachex`	`also, mplayer will go really off syncronizing the sound and the video in most files`
`20:29.13`	`fachex`	`like the IBM comercial..`
`20:29.17`	`roxville`	`thana is from barcelona too`
`20:29.18`	`fachex`	`any hint?`
`20:30.09`	`roxville`	`yeah fachex open the mplayer settings and try another video...thingy`
`20:30.12`	`roxville`	`gold on`
`20:30.32`	`fachex`	`I did, but I think is the overall video driver.. :(`
`20:30.52`	`fachex`	`(gold on!) I like that`
`20:30.58`	`roxville`	`set to xv or x11`
`20:31.08`	`fachex`	`I tried all of them`
`20:31.16`	`roxville`	`fachex, what is your video card?`
`20:32.04`	`fachex`	`nvidea`
`20:32.30`	`fachex`	`the weird thing is that it worked perfectly with the previous version..`
`20:32.49`	`fachex`	`with this one I am having problems..`
`20:32.51`	`roxville`	`that's now weird... it's normal :)`
`20:33.00`	`Deformative`	`roxville, http://www.themexp.org/preview.php?mid=135799&type=wp&view=&page=&cat=&name=orange+vista.zip`
`20:33.02`	`Deformative`	`I like that.`
`20:33.10`	`fachex`	`I thought form version to version we are building up`
`20:33.13`	`roxville`	`elive is in development... and things like that happen... every now and then`
`20:33.23`	`Deformative`	`Maybe we could turn the backwards C into a button.`
`20:33.27`	`Deformative`	`that would be insain.`
`20:34.10`	`roxville`	`the "ring"?`
`20:35.09`	`Deformative`	`Yeah, kinda.`
`20:35.44`	`roxville`	`fachex, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
`20:35.45`	`Deformative`	`Have the center of the button clear.`
`20:35.50`	`roxville`	`as root in a terminal`
`20:35.55`	`Deformative`	`And show the window border.`
`20:35.59`	`fachex`	`ok`
`20:36.00`	`roxville`	`yeah`
`20:39.05`	`fachex`	`rebooting..`
`20:41.32`	`Deformative`	`http://www.themexp.org/preview.php?mid=128233&type=wp&view=&page=&cat=&name=Wolfenstein+-+Orange.zip`
`20:41.51`	`Deformative`	`Back to the livecd with me.`
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`20:46.05`	`fachex`	`how can I have a volume control in my desktop?`
`20:50.27`	`roxville`	`facuse alsamixer`
`20:50.46`	`roxville`	`e17 has a mixer, but it's not stable... at all`
`20:50.54`	`roxville`	`and... you use e16, so...`
`20:50.56`	`roxville`	`:)`
`20:55.53`	`roxville`	`bbiab`
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`21:14.06`	`^Cricket^`	`o/`
`21:15.37`	`LinuxNIT`	`:D`
`21:15.39`	`LinuxNIT`	`BOO`
`21:15.50`	`LinuxNIT-II`	`or`
`21:15.52`	`LinuxNIT-II`	`BOO`
`21:15.55`	`LinuxNIT-II`	`:d`
`21:19.46`	`^Cricket^`	`:P`
`21:19.54`	`^Cricket^`	`ko wifi`
`21:20.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`ko?`
`21:20.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`knock out?`
`21:20.23`	`^Cricket^`	`... ok reversed O-o`
`21:20.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`;)`
`21:20.35`	`LinuxNIT`	`you need wifi?`
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`21:21.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`wifi sucks dont use it ;)`
`21:21.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`ok problem solved`
`21:21.40`	`^Cricket^`	`only net for my lappy tho`
`21:21.48`	`LinuxNIT`	`meh`
`21:21.50`	`LinuxNIT`	`;)`
`21:21.54`	`LinuxNIT`	`what card is it?`
`21:21.58`	`^Cricket^`	`"Linksys WPC11 11Mbps 802.11b WLAN Card"`
`21:22.07`	`LinuxNIT`	`chipset?`
`21:22.50`	`^Cricket^`	`dont really know, works with orinoco_cs and wlan-ng`
`21:23.21`	`LinuxNIT`	`are they loaded?`
`21:24.30`	`^Cricket^`	`the orinoco drivers yes, wlan-ng no`
`21:26.01`	`LinuxNIT`	`and its not appearing in iwconfig right?`
`21:26.30`	`^Cricket^`	`it showes up i just want to automate it on boot`
`21:28.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`oh`
`21:28.17`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol i thought it wasnt working period`
`21:28.18`	`LinuxNIT`	`:D`
`21:28.39`	`^Cricket^`	`O-o then i could not speakth`
`21:28.48`	`^Cricket^`	`:P`
`21:29.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`some people have multiple computers`
`21:29.08`	`LinuxNIT`	`so HA`
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`21:29.45`	`^Cricket^`	`umm have 8 here XD`
`21:32.42`	`LinuxNIT`	`ok sorry to automate connecting on boot you have to edit the /etc/network/interfaces file`
`21:33.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`hmmm`
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`21:37.02`	`LinuxNIT-II`	`sorry`
`21:37.04`	`LinuxNIT-II`	`^Cricket^, you still there`
`21:37.29`	`^Cricket^`	`yep`
`21:37.30`	`LinuxNIT-II`	`use the program to configure networks in elpanel and it should connect on boot`
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`21:53.12`	`Mtraker`	`Nas`
`21:56.36`	`bentejuy`	`buenas Mtraker`
`21:56.43`	`keyra`	`bentejuy: nas`
`21:57.03`	`Mtraker`	`buenas noches a todos`
`21:58.39`	`Mtraker`	`he conseguido ponerme la radio de icatfm.cat no lo he conseguido mas que con el windows media player`
`21:58.58`	`Mtraker`	`tiene acceso (teoriacamente a linux) pero no me fucniona`
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`23:44.51`	`GPLGeek`	`Howdy everyone! it's been a while`
`23:45.01`	`GPLGeek`	`My surge protector blew up and fried all of my computers`
`23:45.15`	`GPLGeek`	`funny it was the protector that had the problem`
`23:55.01`	`dererk`	`You better buy a good one this time :))`

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