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| 01:32.49 | Deformative | Ugh. |
| 01:32.53 | Deformative | This is driving me instain. |
| 01:33.01 | Deformative | For some reason my initrd is 100mb. |
| 01:33.05 | Deformative | IT is supposed to be 8! |
| 01:35.53 | roxville | shit... |
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| 01:36.51 | dererk | Usually it's no longer than 5 mb in fact |
| 01:36.57 | Deformative | I know. |
| 01:37.06 | dererk | Which kernel are you using? |
| 01:37.06 | Deformative | Well, I can get rid of the kernel modules. |
| 01:37.15 | Deformative | But buysbox is 70mb. |
| 01:37.34 | Deformative | Why is busybox so large? I built it static, it shouldn't be that large. |
| 01:38.10 | dererk | You did it and you ask me? :\ |
| 01:38.39 | Deformative | Heh. |
| 01:38.46 | Deformative | Well, seemed like you may know. |
| 01:40.24 | dererk | It don't know what you did... it's really difficult to guess 'cause neither my witch nor my fortune teller aren't here :P |
| 01:41.12 | Deformative | Well, have you built an initrd for a livecd before? |
| 01:41.28 | dererk | Did I? ummm |
| 01:41.34 | dererk | don't remember ;) |
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| 02:05.52 | roxville | i just made my first BG using fractals... http://roxville.no-ip.org/e107_plugins/autogallery/autogallery.php?show=Elive%20Backgrounds%2Fe-bg1.jpg |
| 02:17.39 | Deformative | What's fractals? |
| 02:18.30 | roxville | hmmm... good question |
| 02:18.37 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 02:18.41 | Thanatermesis | good one :) |
| 02:19.03 | roxville | it's a methematically made shape |
| 02:19.17 | Deformative | Ah. |
| 02:19.37 | roxville | http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=fractals&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi |
| 02:19.39 | Deformative | Where is the fracals in that background? |
| 02:19.40 | roxville | like that |
| 02:20.11 | roxville | well, you can stretch them... a lot... or zoom in, and everywhere you see new shapes |
| 02:20.27 | roxville | the big yellow bows are part of the fractals |
| 02:20.50 | roxville | the famous OSX BG... is actually a kind of frctal too |
| 02:21.04 | roxville | that's why ppl have a hard time re-creating it |
| 02:21.16 | Deformative | Eh, whatever, I am too simple for that complicated stuff. |
| 02:21.41 | Deformative | I am just good at making what is in my head come out on paper, well in this case, the computer. |
| 02:22.03 | roxville | in gimp filters, you have to fractal plugins |
| 02:23.04 | Deformative | Eh, I do not like those things, you don't accually make it manually, you just input settings and it makes it for you. |
| 02:23.13 | Deformative | I like to do thigns manually. |
| 02:23.51 | Deformative | Like the render>nature>Flame is the only thing I do that way, but only because it looks so damn cool. |
| 02:23.56 | Deformative | It makes me feel guilty. |
| 02:28.05 | roxville | hehe |
| 02:28.46 | roxville | i have no talent on papaer... this is the only way i can do what i "see in my head" |
| 02:29.22 | Deformative | <3 drawing. |
| 02:29.50 | Deformative | My strongest point is drawing in pen and ink. |
| 02:30.07 | Deformative | Then pencil, but everyone is good at pencil... |
| 02:37.31 | roxville | not me |
| 02:38.23 | roxville | you should meet cornelius, my gimp-guru |
| 02:38.32 | roxville | he's good... at drawing |
| 02:38.41 | Deformative | Heh. |
| 02:38.53 | roxville | and gimp |
| 02:39.03 | Deformative | I am not so good at gimp. |
| 02:39.14 | Deformative | But I am good at drawing so it makes it look like I am alright at gimp. |
| 02:40.53 | roxville | yes you are |
| 02:41.56 | roxville | plugs were originally made to make artists work go a little faster... blurring and bump-mapping, etc |
| 02:42.16 | roxville | now, they help ppl like me express themselves too |
| 02:42.33 | roxville | not like karaoke, but... probably not far from it... |
| 02:42.47 | Deformative | Hehe. |
| 02:43.36 | Deformative | Hmmm. |
| 02:43.49 | roxville | luckily, i am a proffesional musician/singer, so... i CAN express myself without plugins too |
| 02:43.56 | roxville | just in a different way |
| 02:44.01 | Deformative | I need to find a way to do http://pastebin.ca/149742 manually. |
| 02:44.56 | roxville | holy fuck! |
| 02:45.07 | roxville | what the hell is that? |
| 02:45.34 | Deformative | A script to make the package manager think that a directory is root. |
| 02:45.35 | roxville | looks like some kind of... code, or something |
| 02:45.48 | Deformative | But I need to do it manually. |
| 02:45.56 | roxville | oh god... |
| 02:46.28 | Deformative | Hehe. |
| 02:47.01 | Deformative | That's nothing. |
| 02:47.55 | Deformative | http://pastebin.ca/149750 |
| 02:48.06 | Deformative | That is what I am ultimitally trying to do manually. |
| 02:48.24 | Deformative | As an end result. |
| 02:49.16 | roxville | have you talked to nomed? |
| 02:49.28 | roxville | or looked into DSSLive? |
| 02:50.21 | Deformative | You know, this is concidered a "simple script" god, I would never be able to be a programmer, this is like dsgkhladfs;klgadjf difficult to me. |
| 02:51.27 | roxville | LOL |
| 02:51.48 | roxville | look how beautiful fractals can be http://fusionanomaly.net/fractals.jpg |
| 02:51.55 | Deformative | It is kinda fun though, it is like a brain teaser. |
| 02:52.15 | Deformative | Eh, I do not like it. |
| 02:52.43 | Deformative | This code reminds me of systems of equations back in algebra2. |
| 02:53.24 | roxville | lol |
| 02:54.17 | Deformative | Like exact same thing, just sentances instead of numbers. |
| 02:54.25 | Deformative | And words instead of variables. |
| 02:54.41 | Deformative | And $word is a value. |
| 02:54.58 | Deformative | Erm, directories are values. |
| 02:55.13 | Deformative | And $word is scientfic notation. |
| 02:55.26 | Deformative | Lol. |
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| 02:56.26 | roxville | lol |
| 02:56.37 | roxville | hola quidam- :) |
| 02:56.42 | roxville | que tal? |
| 02:56.44 | keyra | roxville: que tal ? |
| 02:56.48 | quidam- | roxville, bien y tu? |
| 02:57.09 | roxville | muy bien :) |
| 03:00.12 | roxville | quidam-, how is venezuela this evening? |
| 03:00.21 | roxville | have you started college again? |
| 03:00.29 | quidam- | much rain here |
| 03:00.42 | quidam- | well a lot of rain and snow in the mountains |
| 03:00.45 | quidam- | :) |
| 03:00.54 | roxville | wow |
| 03:01.42 | roxville | but... of course |
| 03:04.15 | Deformative | God I am mad now. |
| 03:04.23 | Deformative | There is an option in the package manager that does it... |
| 03:04.33 | Deformative | pacman -r <dir name> |
| 03:07.42 | roxville | hehe |
| 03:07.43 | roxville | i bet you are |
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| 03:15.25 | Deformative | Ugh. |
| 03:15.33 | Deformative | Every time I sovle a problem a new one appears. |
| 03:15.43 | Deformative | the archie repo doesn't work now. |
| 03:15.45 | Deformative | UGHHH! |
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| 03:17.28 | Detox | hello all |
| 03:17.35 | keyra | Detox: hi |
| 03:17.44 | Detox | how ya be? |
| 03:18.32 | Detox | the more I use Elive the more I enjoy it |
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| 03:20.16 | Detox | hello idm |
| 03:20.23 | keyra | Detox: hi |
| 03:20.35 | Detox | hello again |
| 03:21.51 | Detox | does anyone know if the grub issue has been fixed to isntall onto a second hd with win on the first? |
| 03:23.46 | elmo40 | i have not had that problem... |
| 03:23.58 | elmo40 | win on hda and eLive on hdb, no problem |
| 03:24.07 | elmo40 | with mbr on the hda |
| 03:24.23 | Detox | hmmm ,, I installed elive onto second hd ,, had win on first and would not boot gt grub errors |
| 03:24.31 | keyra | Detox: 90 % of the problems in Elive are due to problems reading the CD. maybe your CD media or your cdrom device, check the MD5 of the ISO, try the CD on another computer, and finally try to burn another CD from a different brand at a different speed... even better, burn if from another computer |
| 03:25.24 | Detox | this has been tried from three pc's burning iso's at 4x,,, had to adjsut grug manually with help from linuxnit |
| 03:25.54 | Detox | am DL'ing new beta tonight ,,, will try on my spare pc |
| 03:26.24 | Detox | but this is the first DL in over 3-4 months |
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| 03:34.35 | Deformative | fdhfgdchngdhkladfjvhf,.mjnDVIyhwkjllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:34.39 | Deformative | The entire time! |
| 03:34.49 | Detox | well indeed |
| 03:34.51 | Deformative | I wasted 3 hours because thunar had a bug! |
| 03:34.57 | Deformative | OH MY GOD! |
| 03:35.02 | Deformative | It worked fine the entire time!!! |
| 03:35.13 | Deformative | The file size wasn't 100mb. |
| 03:35.17 | Deformative | It was just thunar. |
| 03:36.07 | elmo40 | hey guys, is there a short cut key combination to drop your rez to something like 800x600? |
| 03:36.08 | roxville | wow |
| 03:36.12 | Deformative | The file size was more like 3 mb. |
| 03:36.19 | Deformative | God. |
| 03:36.23 | Deformative | Ugh, I am so mad now. |
| 03:36.45 | roxville | elmo40, yes |
| 03:37.01 | roxville | ctrl+alt++ |
| 03:37.05 | roxville | or - |
| 03:37.21 | roxville | Deformative, i am so sorry |
| 03:37.35 | roxville | well thunar is not gonna stay ... i think |
| 03:37.44 | roxville | i takes too much ram to run |
| 03:37.49 | elmo40 | btw, i burned an .iso over a network to my local cd-r !!! It worked!! Just cut the speed down to 1 ;) |
| 03:38.01 | elmo40 | anything faster, and it cant read/write fast enough... or something like that |
| 03:38.40 | roxville | yeah |
| 03:38.43 | roxville | cool! |
| 03:38.52 | Deformative | roxville, huh? |
| 03:38.58 | Deformative | Why wouldn't thunar stay? |
| 03:39.22 | roxville | it takes too much ram |
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| 03:39.32 | roxville | not good on low-end systems |
| 03:39.37 | Deformative | Less than konq. |
| 03:39.48 | roxville | hehe... ya |
| 03:40.02 | roxville | but more that evidence |
| 03:40.07 | Deformative | I love thunar. |
| 03:40.11 | roxville | we'll see what thana decides on |
| 03:40.26 | Deformative | s/love/loved |
| 03:40.49 | Deformative | It was my favorite filemanager untill now. |
| 03:40.51 | roxville | hehe, well you can still install/use it! |
| 03:41.17 | Deformative | roxville, I do not use elive remember. |
| 03:41.49 | roxville | oh... right... sorry |
| 03:42.46 | Deformative | I would use elive, if only it was i686 optimised. |
| 03:42.55 | Deformative | That is my one problem with it. |
| 03:43.19 | Deformative | Once you use a i686 optimised distro, and you go back to a i386 you REALLY can see the difference in speed. |
| 03:43.41 | roxville | i tried YOPER |
| 03:44.10 | roxville | was supposed to be i686 optimised... it SUCKED |
| 03:44.19 | Deformative | That's a sissy distro. |
| 03:44.20 | Deformative | Lol. |
| 03:44.22 | Deformative | Archlinux. |
| 03:44.23 | Deformative | =) |
| 03:44.39 | Deformative | Or uhm. |
| 03:44.42 | roxville | but you can optimize elive... rebuild the kernel and stuff |
| 03:44.43 | Deformative | What was the other one. |
| 03:44.49 | roxville | oh, but it's the apps... |
| 03:44.52 | roxville | of course |
| 03:44.54 | Deformative | I am not gonna build every single app. |
| 03:44.57 | Deformative | Lol. |
| 03:45.18 | Deformative | Archlinux's repos are all i686 optimised packages. |
| 03:45.27 | roxville | yeah |
| 03:45.42 | Deformative | That is the ONLY reason I do not use elive I think. |
| 03:45.58 | LinuxNIT-II | you think |
| 03:46.05 | LinuxNIT-II | youre not sure? |
| 03:46.08 | LinuxNIT-II | ;) |
| 03:46.29 | Deformative | Yes I think, because I can not be positive, I mean, there is no way to come to an answer without testing it. |
| 03:46.51 | Deformative | And since there is no way to see how elive runs when it is i686 optimised, yes, I think. |
| 03:46.52 | Deformative | =) |
| 03:47.04 | Detox | how is elive on upper end processors? like 3 ghz with hyperthreading? |
| 03:47.24 | Detox | the amd64's |
| 03:47.52 | Deformative | Isn't elive for 32s? /me shurgs |
| 03:48.11 | roxville | it runs really well on amd64's |
| 03:48.18 | LinuxNIT-II | compiled for 32bit systems yes but a 32bit os will still run on a 64bit system |
| 03:48.19 | Detox | ok good |
| 03:48.30 | LinuxNIT-II | you just dont get to take advantage of the 64bits |
| 03:48.38 | Deformative | Aha. |
| 03:48.41 | LinuxNIT-II | ;) |
| 03:48.44 | Deformative | I wouldn't know i do not have a 64 bit. |
| 03:48.54 | Detox | me either |
| 03:48.55 | LinuxNIT-II | well i dont have one either |
| 03:49.00 | LinuxNIT-II | we just like to talk about them |
| 03:49.01 | Detox | I jsut a litle bit |
| 03:49.01 | roxville | lol |
| 03:49.06 | roxville | thana does |
| 03:49.10 | LinuxNIT-II | really? |
| 03:49.13 | LinuxNIT-II | he got one? |
| 03:49.15 | roxville | yeah |
| 03:49.18 | LinuxNIT-II | niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice! |
| 03:49.46 | Detox | i'm excited jsut to have a p800 |
| 03:50.11 | idm_ | I ran it on my opty 3G and its flying |
| 03:50.12 | roxville | hehe |
| 03:50.39 | roxville | idm_, that's awesome |
| 03:50.43 | LinuxNIT-II | idm_, hook your car up to it.... youll get places faster ;) |
| 03:50.47 | Detox | hmmm,,, I still have an 8088 XT in storage,,, what ya think? |
| 03:51.05 | LinuxNIT-II | Detox, does it have a cdrom? |
| 03:51.06 | idm_ | hehe.. |
| 03:51.06 | LinuxNIT-II | ;) |
| 03:51.18 | Detox | no floppy 5 1/2 |
| 03:51.28 | LinuxNIT-II | hmmm |
| 03:51.28 | idm_ | although... it didn't take much of 64bit computing |
| 03:51.40 | LinuxNIT-II | i doubt the 5 1/2 will boot the live cd |
| 03:51.58 | Detox | it's bout the same size....... |
| 03:52.03 | roxville | ya never know :) |
| 03:52.40 | Detox | but the 512k of ram really moves along |
| 03:52.42 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 03:52.48 | LinuxNIT-II | true |
| 03:52.49 | Detox | and i have a 1.4 modem too |
| 03:52.55 | Detox | 14.4 modem |
| 03:53.02 | LinuxNIT-II | and i dont think the motor will spin fast enough |
| 03:53.11 | Deformative | Oh, LinuxNIT, I solved how to get Elive to boot on USB I think. |
| 03:53.11 | LinuxNIT-II | and he head will scratch the cd too much |
| 03:53.18 | LinuxNIT-II | Deformative, nice |
| 03:53.21 | Detox | whowwww |
| 03:53.34 | LinuxNIT-II | Detox, does it have usb? |
| 03:53.35 | LinuxNIT-II | ;) |
| 03:53.38 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 03:53.48 | Detox | it was made in the us |
| 03:54.12 | LinuxNIT-II | ? |
| 03:54.14 | Detox | the keyboard and mosue still work fine |
| 03:54.18 | roxville | so... no usb... only usa |
| 03:54.25 | Detox | aarrgg drat |
| 03:54.37 | Deformative | Well, you need to write the iso to a usb stick or partition. Then you need to put syslinux on a floppy, and edit the initrd to mount the usb and load from there. |
| 03:55.01 | LinuxNIT-II | Deformative, why not put syslinuxon the usb |
| 03:55.06 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
| 03:55.29 | Detox | hmmm this is good ,, I have a laptop with no cdrom wroking and bios will not let me boot from usb |
| 03:55.42 | Detox | but if i boot from floppy and point to usb ,,,, |
| 03:56.12 | Deformative | LinuxNIT-II, that is possible, but most bios can not boot usb. |
| 03:56.23 | Detox | not mine |
| 03:56.33 | Detox | dell lattitude c600 |
| 03:56.42 | Deformative | None of my 5 computers support usb boot. |
| 03:56.47 | LinuxNIT-II | well Deformative you have a new project |
| 03:56.48 | Deformative | I have a latitude c400. |
| 03:57.03 | LinuxNIT-II | take all elive releases and set them up for usb booting |
| 03:57.11 | Detox | bios only recognizes hd , floppy ahd cd |
| 03:57.12 | LinuxNIT-II | with a iso for the floppy ;) |
| 03:57.13 | Detox | cd is broke |
| 03:57.20 | LinuxNIT-II | get on it |
| 03:57.21 | LinuxNIT-II | ;) |
| 03:58.32 | Deformative | Floppy do not use iso. |
| 03:58.36 | Deformative | They use .img. |
| 03:58.43 | Detox | yes! I'll support the cause,, will get my pompom's and develop a cheer |
| 03:58.47 | Deformative | Iso only works for iso9660 filesystem. |
| 03:59.06 | LinuxNIT-II | w/e |
| 03:59.11 | LinuxNIT-II | you get the idea |
| 03:59.13 | Deformative | Heh. |
| 03:59.29 | Deformative | I just might do that after I finish my livecd. |
| 03:59.39 | LinuxNIT-II | hehe |
| 04:00.40 | Deformative | But it would be better if I could get an image of thermasis's origional installation, that that way you could write to usb disk, plus it would eliminate ram disks. |
| 04:00.54 | Deformative | MAking it no longer a livecd on a usb, but rather a full installation on a usb. |
| 04:02.17 | LinuxNIT-II | well youd have to talk to Thanatermesis about that |
| 04:02.23 | Deformative | Well, I could make it myself, from the iso, but then I would have a lot more work than I want. |
| 04:02.53 | Deformative | I would need to remake the scripts, do a filesystem change, and a whole bunch of stuff... |
| 04:02.55 | LinuxNIT-II | although he did tell me that it will boot from usb if the bios supports it |
| 04:03.05 | LinuxNIT-II | but some dont :-/ |
| 04:03.13 | LinuxNIT-II | some/many.... |
| 04:03.19 | Deformative | s/some/most |
| 04:03.20 | Deformative | Heh. |
| 04:03.59 | LinuxNIT-II | lol |
| 04:05.02 | Deformative | Well, he is correct, exept for one point, that usb stick will not work on all computers that support usb boot. |
| 04:05.17 | Deformative | Because the video driver. |
| 04:06.08 | Deformative | Because when you install elive it selects a video driver, but when you boot the cd, you select one from a list. |
| 04:06.17 | Deformative | You need that list on the usb for boot. |
| 04:06.29 | Deformative | And it is a pain in the ass to take that off the iso. |
| 04:08.36 | LinuxNIT-II | youre talking about elive installed on the usb right? |
| 04:08.44 | Deformative | Yes. |
| 04:08.47 | LinuxNIT-II | not running live |
| 04:09.01 | Deformative | Running live off of usb. |
| 04:09.17 | Deformative | It is installed, but it still has the live scripts. |
| 04:09.26 | Deformative | In this way, you can use it on more than one computer. |
| 04:09.56 | Deformative | So you can use it on this computer, then take out the usb stick, plug it in another computer, and it will boot on that one as well. |
| 04:10.01 | roxville | but technically... couldn't you install iT? |
| 04:10.09 | roxville | on a HD |
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| 04:10.57 | Deformative | You could install it on a usb hard drive, but then you would need to rewrite the startup scripts that select drivers based on your system. |
| 04:11.44 | Deformative | Without those scripts it would ONLY work on the pc you used to install it on the hard disk, or a pc with the same hardware drivers. |
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| 04:13.22 | Deformative | Like, video driver, refresh rate, mouse driver, keyboard, lanuage, locales, that would all be set in stone, rather than being detected on bootup the way things are when you boot a livecd. |
| 04:13.30 | Deformative | You can. |
| 04:13.41 | LinuxNIT-II | so why not |
| 04:14.00 | LinuxNIT-II | do that and make a floppy .img for pcs that cant boot usb |
| 04:14.12 | Deformative | Because then it would be iso9660 filesystem, IE not cappable of saving files. |
| 04:14.14 | LinuxNIT-II | then whoever wants to can install where the want to |
| 04:14.34 | Deformative | Wait... I can coppy it over to ext2 filesystem, then make a .img file. |
| 04:14.39 | Deformative | that would work. |
| 04:15.06 | Deformative | LinuxNIT-II, the number of people that know how to put iso on usb are few. |
| 04:15.25 | LinuxNIT-II | i know |
| 04:15.31 | Deformative | There would surely need to be another download for usb. |
| 04:15.50 | LinuxNIT-II | i thought what you wanted to do was just make it so that people could boot it from a usb |
| 04:16.12 | LinuxNIT-II | but apparently you had much more in mind... so i was confused as to why you wanted to do alll that work |
| 04:16.33 | Deformative | Ahah. |
| 04:16.37 | Deformative | I understand what you mean. |
| 04:17.05 | Deformative | I was thinking the same way origionally. |
| 04:17.51 | Deformative | But then, "<Detox> hmmm this is good ,, I have a laptop with no cdrom wroking and bios will not let me boot from usb" is what made me change my mind on meathod. |
| 04:18.15 | LinuxNIT-II | ;) |
| 04:18.24 | Deformative | Sorry. |
| 04:18.39 | Detox | meathod? |
| 04:18.41 | LinuxNIT-II | no problem... its all clear now |
| 04:18.45 | Deformative | See, alright there are two options. |
| 04:18.56 | Detox | ahhh meat hod |
| 04:19.35 | Deformative | Take the iso, and make it an img that will run on usb, and also make a floppy img. This meathod you can use the same external hard drive on many computers. |
| 04:20.00 | Detox | well folks it is gtting late,,,, good chatting have a great night |
| 04:20.07 | keyra | Detox: good night, sleep well |
| 04:20.29 | Deformative | The second option, just make a floppy image that can boot an installation that someone installed on an external hard drive. |
| 04:20.47 | Deformative | But it will only work on the computer used to install it on the hard drive. |
| 04:20.53 | Deformative | That make better sense? |
| 04:21.08 | LinuxNIT-II | yep |
| 04:21.21 | LinuxNIT-II | i know what you mean now that i got it all cleared up |
| 04:21.28 | Deformative | Alright good. |
| 04:21.43 | LinuxNIT-II | for a while i was scratching my head going.... whats is he thinking |
| 04:21.45 | LinuxNIT-II | :d |
| 04:21.47 | LinuxNIT-II | :D |
| 04:21.51 | Deformative | Heh. |
| 04:22.47 | Deformative | syslinux is a grub substitute that basically works on external drives rather than being on mbr. |
| 04:22.52 | Deformative | That is the key. |
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| 04:27.56 | Deformative | Option one would be cooler, but option 2 would be easier to get mirrors for. |
| 04:28.16 | Deformative | But both wouldn't work if someone has something other than default kernel....... |
| 04:29.41 | Deformative | Anyone there? |
| 04:29.59 | LinuxNIT-II | nope |
| 04:30.05 | LinuxNIT-II | we left |
| 04:30.06 | Deformative | Lol. |
| 04:30.09 | LinuxNIT-II | so option one |
| 04:30.20 | LinuxNIT-II | will run like a livecd |
| 04:30.27 | LinuxNIT-II | but you can save files to it right? |
| 04:30.27 | Deformative | It would take a shit load of bandwith from the mirrors. |
| 04:30.36 | LinuxNIT-II | why? |
| 04:30.53 | Deformative | Because it is a whole nother livecd download. |
| 04:31.14 | Deformative | Maybe even larger depending on the compression that elivecd uses |
| 04:31.23 | roxville | ok, i'm off to bed |
| 04:31.27 | LinuxNIT-II | later roxville |
| 04:31.31 | Deformative | Bye roxville. |
| 04:31.47 | roxville | tomorrow is my girl's 4th b-day, so... gotta stay sharp :) |
| 04:31.53 | Deformative | Hehe. |
| 04:32.24 | Deformative | LinuxNIT, yes, it will be like a livecd, just costomisable. |
| 04:32.31 | Deformative | Where as the livecd is what the livecd is. |
| 04:32.36 | Deformative | You can not install new packages. |
| 04:32.46 | LinuxNIT | yes you can |
| 04:32.48 | Deformative | And you can not edit themes, or remove existing packages. |
| 04:32.54 | LinuxNIT | the just dissappear after reboot |
| 04:33.21 | Deformative | Adding new packages on a livecd = BAD idea, it will hog ALOT of ram. |
| 04:33.34 | LinuxNIT | true |
| 04:33.41 | LinuxNIT | but some times its needed |
| 04:33.46 | Deformative | Yeah. |
| 04:33.47 | LinuxNIT | and some are very small |
| 04:33.54 | LinuxNIT | like testdisk |
| 04:33.56 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 04:33.58 | Deformative | Yeah. |
| 04:34.11 | LinuxNIT | testdisk is my friend |
| 04:34.23 | LinuxNIT | testdisk saved 8 gigs of data for LinuxNIT |
| 04:34.27 | Deformative | Does elive come with elicit preinstalled? |
| 04:34.33 | LinuxNIT | think so |
| 04:34.41 | Deformative | alt+esc |
| 04:34.49 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:34.52 | Deformative | Then type in elicit and tell me if anything comes up. |
| 04:34.54 | LinuxNIT | you want me to check aye |
| 04:34.59 | Deformative | Hehe, yes. |
| 04:35.03 | LinuxNIT | i know how to use E |
| 04:35.04 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:35.15 | LinuxNIT | and yes elicit is on here |
| 04:35.19 | Deformative | Cool. |
| 04:35.23 | LinuxNIT | but this is not a fresh install |
| 04:35.33 | Deformative | Yeah. |
| 04:35.35 | LinuxNIT | however im sure it is included |
| 04:35.41 | Deformative | Wow. |
| 04:35.48 | Deformative | I feel dumb, I just realised something. |
| 04:35.59 | Deformative | You know those mood tester things? |
| 04:36.10 | Deformative | Like a mood ring? |
| 04:36.37 | Deformative | And do you know those aquarium thermometers that you stick on the glass and they change color based on temp? |
| 04:36.41 | Deformative | They are the same thing. |
| 04:36.46 | Deformative | Same material. |
| 04:36.59 | Deformative | I didn't realise untill like 5 seconds ago. |
| 04:37.01 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:37.04 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 04:38.24 | Deformative | So, after I finish my livecd what option do you want to use? |
| 04:38.33 | LinuxNIT | ONE |
| 04:38.36 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:39.04 | Deformative | I do not know if Thanatermesis will be able to get bandwidth for it. |
| 04:39.10 | Deformative | He prolly will be able to though. |
| 04:39.52 | LinuxNIT | have to get something that works first |
| 04:39.58 | Deformative | Yeah. |
| 04:42.53 | Deformative | Well, it is the exact same concept as a hard disk installation -grub, grub boots the kernel, and tells the kernel where the initrd is, then the initrd finds all the devs, and mounts the root partition, then kills itself and gives power back to the kernel. |
| 04:43.23 | Deformative | But with this, syslinux will boot the kernel rather than grub. |
| 04:44.08 | Deformative | The problem lies in taking a livecd and turning it into a hard disk installation. |
| 04:44.25 | Deformative | Because with a livecd, the cd is read only, and the initrd never kills itself. |
| 04:44.49 | Deformative | That is why I said it would be easier to get the origional from Thanatermesis. |
| 04:45.38 | Deformative | Make sense LinuxNIT? |
| 04:46.06 | LinuxNIT | can you not just make it rw? |
| 04:46.23 | LinuxNIT | life would be simpler |
| 04:47.05 | Deformative | You can, but the initrd never kills itself, it stays in the ram, and then just pulls stuff off the disk and keeps them in the ram, just like a livecd. |
| 04:47.18 | Deformative | Rather than running stuff off the disk. |
| 04:47.21 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 04:47.38 | LinuxNIT | ask him |
| 04:47.45 | LinuxNIT | whats the worst he can say? |
| 04:47.47 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 04:48.47 | Deformative | I never said I wouldn't ask. I was just explaining the situation. |
| 04:48.53 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 04:49.01 | LinuxNIT | i already told him about the idea ;) |
| 04:49.09 | Deformative | And first I need to make my livecd work. |
| 04:49.16 | LinuxNIT | he dosent know how youd do it but said it sounds interesting |
| 04:49.18 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 04:49.20 | Deformative | that is priority number one for me. |
| 04:49.25 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 04:49.58 | Deformative | Well now, this is interesting, my cpu is at constant 46% usage... |
| 04:50.05 | Deformative | It is supposed to be at constant 1% |
| 04:50.21 | Deformative | And my ram is at 71% |
| 04:50.25 | Deformative | X.x |
| 04:51.21 | LinuxNIT | uh oh |
| 04:51.23 | Deformative | Wow, I have like no prossesses open. |
| 04:51.27 | Deformative | How is this possible. |
| 04:51.30 | LinuxNIT | youre dead |
| 04:51.39 | LinuxNIT | you just dont know it yet |
| 04:51.40 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 04:51.56 | Deformative | All I have is like 9 eterms, 3 thunars, xchat, gaim, and a few firefox. |
| 04:52.07 | Deformative | But they are all idle. |
| 04:52.16 | Deformative | They shouldn't bring up the cpu usage. |
| 04:52.20 | Deformative | The ram maybe. |
| 04:52.24 | Deformative | But not cpu. |
| 04:52.38 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 04:52.43 | LinuxNIT | whats top say? |
| 04:52.49 | Deformative | And most of the time when I have this many it is at like maybe 10 max. |
| 04:53.24 | Deformative | Well, I coulda told you what was using it all akready. |
| 04:53.26 | Deformative | Conky tells me. |
| 04:53.34 | Deformative | firefox-bin is using 28% |
| 04:53.40 | Deformative | That is odd. |
| 04:53.50 | LinuxNIT | maybe its stuck |
| 04:53.53 | LinuxNIT | kill it |
| 04:54.06 | Deformative | Scratch that, that is the mem usage. |
| 04:54.13 | Deformative | The cpu usage is 45% |
| 04:54.14 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:54.22 | LinuxNIT | dunno what to tell ya |
| 04:54.50 | Deformative | Ah well, I will just run with half a cpu untill i go to bed. |
| 04:54.55 | Deformative | I need these webpages. |
| 04:55.10 | Deformative | And I do not feel like using 10 bookmarks. |
| 04:55.24 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 04:55.36 | LinuxNIT | thats whats nice about epiphany |
| 04:55.54 | LinuxNIT | you can kill it and when it comes back up it will ask if you want to restor the session |
| 04:56.06 | Deformative | Opera does the same thing, but it is closed source, so I am not gonna support it. |
| 04:56.22 | Deformative | But opera is sooo nice. |
| 04:56.29 | LinuxNIT | it is |
| 04:56.52 | Deformative | Plus I do not like having gtk apps and qt apps running at the same time. |
| 04:57.06 | Deformative | That is the other reason I do not support it. |
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| 04:57.58 | LinuxNIT | oops |
| 04:58.00 | LinuxNIT | that was interesting |
| 04:58.07 | Deformative | Heh. |
| 04:58.24 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.32 | LinuxNIT | apparetnly it had more data on it than i thought |
| 04:58.37 | LinuxNIT | ran out of room and e17 crahsed |
| 04:58.43 | Deformative | Lol. |
| 04:58.53 | LinuxNIT | restarted and came up with default theme and settings |
| 04:59.22 | Deformative | That is more interesting than my cpu being at half usage. |
| 04:59.23 | Deformative | Lol. |
| 04:59.27 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:01.19 | Deformative | Heh. |
| 05:01.32 | Deformative | Try out arch yet? |
| 05:01.37 | LinuxNIT | installed it |
| 05:01.44 | LinuxNIT | but ran into trouble installing e17 |
| 05:01.44 | Deformative | And? |
| 05:01.49 | Deformative | Ah. |
| 05:01.52 | LinuxNIT | its complaining about my locales |
| 05:01.57 | Deformative | Yeah. |
| 05:02.12 | Deformative | That is one of those things in installation I was talking about. |
| 05:02.13 | Deformative | Lol. |
| 05:02.21 | Deformative | /etc/rc.conf |
| 05:02.48 | LinuxNIT | i added the info there and it still complained |
| 05:02.49 | LinuxNIT | so HA |
| 05:03.38 | Deformative | You need to change the locale to "en_US.UTF-8" it defautls at "en_US.utf8" for unknown reasons. |
| 05:04.07 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 05:04.15 | LinuxNIT | thats dumb |
| 05:04.16 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 05:04.18 | Deformative | I know. |
| 05:04.35 | Deformative | Then you need to change the hostname to match the hostname in the other config file. |
| 05:04.45 | Deformative | I froget the name of the other config file. |
| 05:05.13 | Deformative | By default one is like myhost then the other is like localhost, I think that is dumb too. |
| 05:05.50 | LinuxNIT | LOCALE="en_US.UTF-8" |
| 05:05.52 | LinuxNIT | like that? |
| 05:05.56 | Deformative | Yes. |
| 05:06.23 | LinuxNIT | what about LC_Collate and LANG |
| 05:06.30 | Deformative | Then make sure you have all the packages in the list on the get-e page. |
| 05:06.31 | LinuxNIT | i have en_US |
| 05:06.40 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 05:07.39 | Deformative | Eh, it complains about the LANG in the first installtion, but you just ignore it, and it works anyway, then on 2nd installation it doesn't do it anymore if I remember correctly. |
| 05:07.43 | Deformative | I mean update. |
| 05:07.48 | Deformative | Not 2nd instllation. |
| 05:07.55 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 05:08.46 | Deformative | Your prolly compiling e17 with i386 optimisation, but you don't notice that it is slower, it is only one application. |
| 05:08.52 | Deformative | And E is fast no matter what. |
| 05:09.07 | LinuxNIT | i never finished |
| 05:09.25 | Deformative | Ah. |
| 05:10.20 | Deformative | Well, I do not know how to compile E17 with i686 optimisation, but someone on #e edited my script, and now they say it will i686 optimise. |
| 05:10.27 | Deformative | But I am not sure if I believe them. |
| 05:10.36 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:11.17 | Deformative | All they did is add "#!/bin/sh |
| 05:11.18 | Deformative | CFLAGS=" -march=i686" |
| 05:11.18 | Deformative | CXXFLAGS="$CFLAGS" |
| 05:11.18 | Deformative | " at the top. |
| 05:11.57 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
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| 12:53.24 | bodha | coucou bonjour a tous |
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| 12:57.37 | penkoad | salut ee_lars (x) |
| 12:57.47 | ee_lars | gRRRrrr |
| 12:57.57 | ee_lars | apt penkoad |
| 12:58.03 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, penkoad is (x) |
| 12:58.16 | penkoad | apt ee_lars |
| 12:58.17 | apt | methinks ee_lars is a frog eater |
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| 12:58.35 | penkoad | and snails as well |
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| 14:44.04 | LinuxNIT | wb roxville |
| 14:44.16 | roxville | thx LinuxNIT :) |
| 14:44.39 | roxville | now... should i go offline for pretty much the rest of the day? |
| 14:44.47 | LinuxNIT | :o |
| 14:44.47 | roxville | it's my daughter's b-day |
| 14:44.50 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 14:44.54 | LinuxNIT | yeah probably |
| 14:44.59 | roxville | yeah... |
| 14:46.21 | roxville | or my wife will have my balls for lunch |
| 14:46.31 | roxville | deep fried |
| 14:46.36 | roxville | southern style |
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| 15:10.50 | Elive_user | Hello |
| 15:11.29 | dererk | Welcome |
| 15:11.44 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | Bonjour aux francais :) |
| 15:12.26 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | Little question for E-Live Addicts : what's better for e-16/e-17 : an arch or debian sys ? |
| 15:12.58 | dererk | je ne parle pas français :/ |
| 15:13.39 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | No killing, i can speak english :) |
| 15:13.43 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | (well, i try) |
| 15:14.11 | dererk | Debian IS the sys |
| 15:14.36 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | lol, well, seem to be borned in debian etc directory :) |
| 15:14.57 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | Do u know arch linux ? |
| 15:15.16 | dererk | not much |
| 15:15.38 | dererk | never have to think on using other distro |
| 15:15.56 | dererk | Debian gives me all I need, and I'm quite much confortable with it |
| 15:17.14 | ThE-MaGiCiaN | well, That's the most important, so u're right :) |
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| 18:24.54 | bi_fi | Thanatermesis, which ati driver version is used in elive 0.5? |
| 18:25.14 | Thanatermesis | bi_fi, no any version of fglrx works with 3d actually |
| 18:25.22 | keyra | Thanatermesis: fglrx SUCKS, It is broken by design. I'm sure M$ gave money to ATI to make bad drivers for linux |
| 18:25.43 | Thanatermesis | keyra, yeah :) |
| 18:26.10 | bi_fi | lol I know it sucks but I bought it and now I have to live with it :D |
| 18:26.53 | bi_fi | but elive 4.2 uses 8.28.8 Thanatermesis |
| 18:27.01 | bi_fi | but there is a newer version on the site |
| 18:27.07 | Thanatermesis | bi_fi, well, send a email to ATI developers... |
| 18:27.23 | Thanatermesis | X3n0n has tried ALL THE VERSIONS of fglrx and no one works with this version of xorg |
| 18:27.34 | Thanatermesis | keyra, please blame ati again :D |
| 18:27.40 | bi_fi | Only 8.20.8 works? |
| 18:27.47 | Thanatermesis | not works also |
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| 18:27.56 | bi_fi | on my computer it works |
| 18:28.01 | Elive_user10 | laff |
| 18:28.10 | Thanatermesis | on Elive 0.4.2 yes, but Elive 0.4.2 don't use xorg 7 but 6.9 (or 6.8) |
| 18:28.12 | X3n0n | Thanatermesis, yes... |
| 18:28.18 | bi_fi | I see |
| 18:28.22 | Thanatermesis | X3n0n, no one then ? |
| 18:28.35 | X3n0n | Thanatermesis, no one... |
| 18:28.50 | eye_yam_ownt | dr17 looking good |
| 18:28.53 | eye_yam_ownt | cant wait for releaese |
| 18:30.32 | bi_fi | Thanatermesis, can I install 8.28.8 on my elive 0.4.2? |
| 18:30.33 | eye_yam_ownt | evidence kind of reminds me of NeXT |
| 18:34.51 | Thanatermesis | bi_fi, i repeat, X3n0n has tried ALL the versions of the fglrx driver, on the "elive way", and no one driver works |
| 18:34.59 | keyra | Thanatermesis: fglrx SUCKS, It is broken by design. I'm sure M$ gave money to ATI to make bad drivers for linux |
| 18:35.27 | X3n0n | bi_fi, try, and you will see... |
| 18:35.37 | Thanatermesis | if you try it... well, you just lost time :) |
| 18:35.43 | bi_fi | X3n0n, I believe you :) |
| 18:35.50 | Thanatermesis | i want to works also... but no way since its a crappy driver |
| 18:35.55 | X3n0n | fglrx worked on 0.4.2, but, in 0.5, we have tried all version and no one works :( |
| 18:36.15 | X3n0n | fglrx works only for 2d...so, prefer use radeon |
| 18:36.19 | Thanatermesis | X3n0n, you have send a email to ATI dev's for blame fglrx ? |
| 18:36.38 | Thanatermesis | of course! use radeon if you don't have 3d... fglrx is a dangerous driver |
| 18:36.42 | X3n0n | in french i could, but, in english is harder for me :D |
| 18:38.03 | Thanatermesis | X3n0n, blame on french, im sure to understands also ;) |
| 18:38.15 | Thanatermesis | btw, im sure to exist "ati website on french" with a french email |
| 18:38.27 | X3n0n | lol yes, or, they just have to click on delete :=) |
| 18:39.09 | Thanatermesis | you really thing to send this kind of emails make's nothing ? |
| 18:39.16 | Thanatermesis | who is important ? the client |
| 18:39.27 | Thanatermesis | if the client is not happy, then has a problem |
| 18:39.37 | Thanatermesis | if not try to solve the problem, then lost money |
| 18:39.42 | Thanatermesis | and clients |
| 18:40.05 | Thanatermesis | of course... since the users don't think to this is important... nothing change |
| 18:40.18 | Thanatermesis | and the users continue waiting and waiting about a thing to not appears |
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| 23:05.24 | bi_fi | Thanatermesis, I have a question |
| 23:05.57 | bi_fi | do you think the fglrx driver works on debian sarge? |
| 23:07.37 | LinuxNIT | bi_fi, i know that by brothers computer was using fglrx in elive and he broke his system... i couldnt get fglrx working again so i installed the debian 2.6.16 kernel in elive and he has 3d ( i think with radeon driver) |
| 23:07.44 | LinuxNIT | you might look in to that |
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| 23:08.01 | LinuxNIT | if you cant get 3d with fglrx in elive |
| 23:08.17 | LinuxNIT | still elive just a different kernel |
| 23:09.08 | bi_fi | I see |
| 23:09.10 | LinuxNIT | bbiab |
| 23:09.20 | bi_fi | but elive is based on debian etch right? |
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| 23:12.53 | LinuxNIT | tada |
| 23:15.40 | bi_fi | LinuxNIT, how come if I look in synaptic I don't see Xorg installed? |
| 23:16.42 | LinuxNIT | it is xserver-xorg |
| 23:20.38 | bi_fi | LinuxNIT, does debian testing use Xorg 6.9? |
| 23:20.49 | bi_fi | sorry for the stupid questions :) |
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| 23:25.17 | LinuxNIT | bi_fi, stupid questions dont exist |
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| 23:26.26 | LinuxNIT | bi_fi, elive root@elive[/home/david]# X -version |
| 23:26.26 | LinuxNIT | X Window System Version 7.0.0 |
| 23:26.40 | LinuxNIT | im on elive bet3.2 |
| 23:26.54 | LinuxNIT | and elive uses the xserver package from debian etc |
| 23:27.03 | LinuxNIT | *etch |
| 23:27.56 | bi_fi | X Window System Version 6.9.0 |
| 23:28.00 | dererk | yo! |
| 23:29.36 | LinuxNIT | bi_fi, what elive are you on? |
| 23:29.44 | LinuxNIT | cat /etc/elive-version |
| 23:29.48 | LinuxNIT | howdy dererk |
| 23:30.02 | bi_fi | LinuxNIT, I'm on 0.4.2 |
| 23:30.15 | dererk | hey LinuxNIT, whassup? |
| 23:30.19 | LinuxNIT | bi_fi, ok right 0.4.2 does not have xorg7 0.5 does |
| 23:30.31 | LinuxNIT | dererk, oh just been playing with archlinux |
| 23:30.35 | bi_fi | but I was trying to figure out why my graphics card doesn't work in debian but works in elive |
| 23:30.43 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 23:30.46 | dererk | lol |
| 23:30.46 | LinuxNIT | what card |
| 23:30.49 | dererk | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.53 | bi_fi | ATI 9600 XT |
| 23:31.02 | LinuxNIT | dererk, i said playing |
| 23:31.06 | LinuxNIT | i USE elive |
| 23:31.08 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 23:31.13 | dererk | LinuxNIT, jk pal |
| 23:31.19 | LinuxNIT | i dont think you were |
| 23:31.28 | LinuxNIT | i think youd do it if you cold |
| 23:31.29 | dererk | apt, kiss LinuxNIT |
| 23:31.30 | apt | ACTION forces LinuxNIT to give unduality a big kiss on the hand |
| 23:31.30 | LinuxNIT | *could |
| 23:31.41 | LinuxNIT | at least it was the hand |
| 23:31.47 | LinuxNIT | apt kick dererk |
| 23:31.49 | apt | bugger off, linuxnit! |
| 23:31.54 | LinuxNIT | apt you suck |
| 23:31.56 | apt | no, *you* suck! |
| 23:32.10 | LinuxNIT | apt smite himself |
| 23:32.11 | apt | ACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves himself from crown to sole. |
| 23:32.19 | LinuxNIT | apt is dumb |
| 23:32.23 | dererk | apt, give LinuxNIT a big kiss |
| 23:32.24 | apt | ACTION gives a big kiss to LinuxNIT |
| 23:32.37 | LinuxNIT | apt is a girl |
| 23:32.38 | dererk | apt, have sex with LinuxNIT |
| 23:32.40 | apt | ACTION sets +promiscuous mode with LinuxNIT |
| 23:32.40 | LinuxNIT | its ok |
| 23:32.43 | bi_fi | LinuxNIT, debian testing uses Xorg 6.9 or 7? |
| 23:32.46 | dererk | hehe |
| 23:32.49 | LinuxNIT | 7 |
| 23:32.54 | dererk | bi_fi, 7 |
| 23:33.02 | LinuxNIT | beat ya dererk |
| 23:33.02 | dererk | ups, sorry |
| 23:33.03 | LinuxNIT | you suck |
| 23:33.06 | bi_fi | so I have a problem then |
| 23:33.06 | LinuxNIT | too slow |
| 23:33.13 | bi_fi | my driver doesn't work in 7 |
| 23:33.14 | dererk | :/ |
| 23:33.27 | LinuxNIT | bi_fi, maybe xorg 7 maybe the kernel |
| 23:33.28 | dererk | apt, why is LinuxNIT so mad? |
| 23:33.30 | apt | dererk: what are you talking about? |
| 23:33.34 | LinuxNIT | ha |
| 23:33.46 | LinuxNIT | apt he dosent know |
| 23:33.51 | bi_fi | how can I convert it to 6.9? |
| 23:33.52 | LinuxNIT | :o |
| 23:33.55 | LinuxNIT | use sarge |
| 23:33.56 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 23:34.05 | LinuxNIT | i guess i dunno |
| 23:34.14 | dererk | apt, don't you know? |
| 23:34.15 | apt | YES, I do know! |
| 23:34.15 | bi_fi | sarge uses Xree i think |
| 23:34.25 | dererk | LinuxNIT, have that bitch! |
| 23:34.26 | LinuxNIT | really? |
| 23:34.26 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 23:34.33 | LinuxNIT | :o |
| 23:34.39 | LinuxNIT | dererk, why the name calling |
| 23:34.48 | LinuxNIT | you get pissd to easy |
| 23:34.53 | LinuxNIT | you act like a little child |
| 23:34.59 | LinuxNIT | lighten up man |
| 23:35.06 | LinuxNIT | or lighten up child |
| 23:35.11 | LinuxNIT | figures |
| 23:35.17 | bi_fi | lol |
| 23:35.29 | dererk | apt, lart LinuxNIT |
| 23:35.37 | dererk | lol |
| 23:35.40 | LinuxNIT | wtf |
| 23:35.47 | dererk | apt, hug LinuxNIT |
| 23:35.48 | apt | ACTION hugs LinuxNIT |
| 23:36.02 | LinuxNIT | apt smack dererk on the lips |
| 23:36.04 | apt | ACTION smacks dererk on the lips upside the head. |
| 23:36.09 | dererk | apt, hug LinuxNIT and that hers nice boobs |
| 23:36.11 | apt | ACTION hugs LinuxNIT and that hers nice boobs |
| 23:36.11 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 23:36.14 | dererk | lol |
| 23:36.19 | dererk | uhm |
| 23:36.28 | dererk | apt, hug LinuxNIT and touch hers nice boobs * |
| 23:36.29 | apt | ACTION hugs LinuxNIT and touch hers nice boobs * |
| 23:36.30 | LinuxNIT | dererk, that makes no sense |
| 23:36.40 | LinuxNIT | still makes no sense |
| 23:36.58 | dererk | no? |
| 23:36.58 | dererk | Oh |
| 23:37.43 | dererk | lol |
| 23:38.19 | dererk | LinuxNIT, I'm fine dude, I'm just kidding |
| 23:38.19 | dererk | don't worry |
| 23:38.20 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 23:38.22 | LinuxNIT | i know |
| 23:38.35 | LinuxNIT | you mess with me i mess with you |
| 23:38.47 | dererk | lol |
| 23:38.53 | LinuxNIT | but im gonna go for a while |
| 23:38.54 | LinuxNIT | ill bbl |
| 23:39.07 | dererk | have fun |
| 23:40.05 | Deformative | O.o |
| 23:49.09 | Deformative | Well, it sure seems like it, you were aufuly exited about linuxNIT's boobs. ~_^ |
| 23:54.20 | dererk | Deformative, LinuxNIT and I have a very special relationship, whether he admitt it or not |
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| 23:55.27 | Deformative | Heh. |
