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| 00:21.07 | revdjenk | pales_rider, hey, LinuxNIT has changed gender? hee hee |
| 00:21.20 | pales_rider | lol hi rev! |
| 00:21.23 | LC | wrong linux |
| 00:21.24 | LC | lol |
| 00:21.31 | revdjenk | hey, how's the new place... |
| 00:21.40 | revdjenk | hey LC, new name! |
| 00:21.44 | pales_rider | very good..and hows your new place? |
| 00:22.00 | revdjenk | first floor is set, and bedrooms coming around... |
| 00:22.05 | LC | revdjenk, just a shorter version |
| 00:22.19 | pales_rider | rev...LC is new to elive..shes very nice |
| 00:22.35 | revdjenk | and whenever LinuxNIT comes online, less confusion in autocomplete! |
| 00:22.40 | LC | pales_rider, thx |
| 00:22.44 | pales_rider | LC meet rev..he is our elive clergy |
| 00:22.47 | LC | revdjenk, yes |
| 00:22.50 | revdjenk | yay...another eliver! |
| 00:23.05 | LC | nice to meetcha |
| 00:23.11 | revdjenk | same here |
| 00:23.30 | revdjenk | whaddya think of Thanatermesis' great work? |
| 00:23.39 | pales_rider | are you meeting your new congregation? |
| 00:23.49 | LC | on underground atm |
| 00:23.53 | revdjenk | he started this without knowing linux, or programming, just started learning! |
| 00:24.05 | LC | I've got elive on hda2 :), been busy working, not enough time to play :( |
| 00:24.37 | revdjenk | hey, elive is not about play! been using it full-time in ministry since late Feb |
| 00:24.52 | revdjenk | the dark side has too great a grip on you |
| 00:25.09 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 00:25.11 | LC | lol yes rev, I'm inlove with slackware too ;) |
| 00:25.18 | revdjenk | oooo |
| 00:25.46 | revdjenk | ok, never played with that, but I know that those who do REALLY love it |
| 00:26.01 | pales_rider | dont get too excited rev..ya know what it does to ya..lol |
| 00:26.27 | revdjenk | hee hee...let's turn to Isaiah 5 |
| 00:26.32 | revdjenk | let me tell you.... |
| 00:26.43 | revdjenk | oops |
| 00:26.51 | pales_rider | lol |
| 00:26.51 | LC | lol |
| 00:26.55 | pales_rider | there ya go |
| 00:27.02 | revdjenk | doesn't take much |
| 00:27.08 | pales_rider | how well i know |
| 00:27.14 | revdjenk | I can prosyletize with elive too |
| 00:27.34 | pales_rider | still no elk in elkin WVa? |
| 00:28.06 | revdjenk | aha....great way to use it ... and NO elk |
| 00:28.12 | pales_rider | he he |
| 00:28.15 | revdjenk | banned in the 17th century |
| 00:28.16 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 00:28.26 | pales_rider | banned? |
| 00:28.30 | revdjenk | bear are here, however |
| 00:28.46 | revdjenk | and great trout fishing |
| 00:28.53 | revdjenk | jk |
| 00:29.05 | pales_rider | you are sooooo funny |
| 00:29.20 | revdjenk | hey are either of you using a calendar app? |
| 00:29.22 | pales_rider | yes even though i moved i still have plenty of bear around |
| 00:29.39 | pales_rider | no rev |
| 00:30.07 | revdjenk | you'd LOVE the story about prophet Elisha and the bear that commanded to tear up some kids! |
| 00:30.12 | revdjenk | uh, maybe not |
| 00:30.19 | pales_rider | lol |
| 00:30.26 | pales_rider | sounds like a good read |
| 00:30.43 | revdjenk | just because the kids called him Baldy... |
| 00:31.09 | revdjenk | oh, well... |
| 00:31.12 | pales_rider | hmmm |
| 00:31.30 | pales_rider | sounds like another fish that got away kind of story |
| 00:32.03 | roxville | revdjenk, thana solved the ati problem... if you felt that |
| 00:32.11 | roxville | oh LC you had ati, right? |
| 00:32.23 | roxville | then i have GREAT news! :D |
| 00:32.30 | roxville | hi revdjenk |
| 00:32.42 | revdjenk | hey...not ati on board |
| 00:32.49 | revdjenk | via |
| 00:33.14 | revdjenk | amd will be happy! |
| 00:33.46 | revdjenk | hey, i3d is still here, did you solve his prob roxville ? |
| 00:34.21 | revdjenk | and meet LC, pales_rider says she is sweet |
| 00:34.38 | pales_rider | lol he met her already |
| 00:34.43 | revdjenk | to balance out |
| 00:34.47 | revdjenk | oh |
| 00:35.02 | revdjenk | whoops |
| 00:35.05 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 00:35.12 | revdjenk | did I type that |
| 00:35.13 | revdjenk | ? |
| 00:35.26 | pales_rider | i met LC when i used to go to #mepis |
| 00:35.42 | revdjenk | you both have been around!! |
| 00:36.09 | pales_rider | lol uh huh |
| 00:36.14 | revdjenk | even though mepis is a WV concern, just didn't like its 'busy'ness |
| 00:36.40 | pales_rider | you've tried it? |
| 00:36.44 | revdjenk | yep |
| 00:36.51 | pales_rider | i liked the fish |
| 00:36.57 | revdjenk | tried everything but redhat |
| 00:37.09 | revdjenk | fish? wasn't that kanotix |
| 00:37.27 | revdjenk | ok and slackware |
| 00:37.28 | roxville | lol |
| 00:37.37 | pales_rider | no..mepis had fish that swam around..lol |
| 00:37.52 | revdjenk | oh yes... more of that 'busy' ness |
| 00:38.01 | pales_rider | uh huh |
| 00:38.12 | revdjenk | overheated my lappy |
| 00:38.30 | pales_rider | well keep your hands out of your lappy |
| 00:38.39 | revdjenk | !!! |
| 00:38.42 | pales_rider | LOL |
| 00:38.43 | revdjenk | wooohooo |
| 00:38.56 | pales_rider | sorry..i couldnt resist |
| 00:39.08 | pales_rider | and you aent around that often to pass that one up |
| 00:39.28 | pales_rider | have to get them in when i can |
| 00:39.37 | revdjenk | yep, I would've if I had the chance to comment |
| 00:39.50 | pales_rider | i have no doubt |
| 00:40.24 | revdjenk | I was hoping LinuxNIT was here, needed help with wine and e-sword |
| 00:40.36 | revdjenk | unless he is under an assumed name? |
| 00:40.44 | pales_rider | nitwit is back to college now |
| 00:40.53 | revdjenk | aha...that is true |
| 00:41.01 | pales_rider | he isnt here as often but still here too often ...lol |
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| 00:41.23 | revdjenk | caught him after 1am yesterday...uh...this morning!! |
| 00:42.05 | pales_rider | ohhh |
| 00:42.12 | pales_rider | hes a great kid |
| 00:42.29 | revdjenk | yep....he'd make a super son-in-law |
| 00:42.46 | pales_rider | sure would |
| 00:42.54 | revdjenk | is LC eligible ? |
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| 00:43.01 | revdjenk | oh oh |
| 00:43.02 | pales_rider | i dont think so |
| 00:43.10 | pale_horse | howdy rev |
| 00:43.24 | LC | sorry, I've been on the darn phone! won't stop ringing |
| 00:43.36 | LC | revdjenk, available for what? |
| 00:43.37 | revdjenk | hey, haven't seen you lately...thot you were swallowed up by some MO swamp |
| 00:43.55 | revdjenk | um...marriage to an eligible eliver... |
| 00:44.01 | revdjenk | not me |
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| 00:44.04 | LC | lol sorry |
| 00:44.09 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 00:44.16 | revdjenk | trying to marry off a great kid |
| 00:44.28 | LC | revdjenk, I'm 36 |
| 00:44.33 | LC | 3 kids |
| 00:44.49 | revdjenk | and a 21 year old would be a prob? hee hee |
| 00:45.10 | LC | lol, yea, I go for older men lol |
| 00:45.38 | pales_rider | me too :) |
| 00:45.39 | revdjenk | all the older guys here are taken, I think, eh, pales_rider ? |
| 00:45.51 | LC | it's ok, I"m not looking |
| 00:45.53 | pales_rider | i only kknow about one of them |
| 00:45.58 | revdjenk | LOL |
| 00:46.00 | pales_rider | cant speak for the rest |
| 00:46.17 | pales_rider | well you are happily married rev |
| 00:46.30 | revdjenk | yep...and we share this church, too |
| 00:46.42 | revdjenk | so you HAVE to, to work together |
| 00:46.45 | pales_rider | thats wonderful |
| 00:47.14 | revdjenk | well, you don't have to, but it certainly helps |
| 00:47.34 | pales_rider | sure does |
| 00:47.53 | revdjenk | your dtr is off to school? |
| 00:48.22 | pales_rider | today was the first day back |
| 00:48.50 | revdjenk | cool |
| 00:49.20 | pales_rider | yup :) |
| 00:50.01 | pales_rider | another week or so and they hand you the reins? |
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| 00:52.39 | revduhjenk | hee hee... power outage... nothing plugged in! |
| 00:52.46 | pales_rider | not feeling too bright? |
| 00:52.47 | roxville | lol |
| 00:53.08 | roxville | thana is building pre-stable now... |
| 00:53.13 | revduhjenk | and don't have the battery module warning me |
| 00:53.14 | roxville | he just can't let go! |
| 00:53.30 | revduhjenk | yippeeee |
| 00:53.55 | revduhjenk | I'm going to have to send him some $ I think that elive is really working well |
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| 00:54.05 | roxville | yeah |
| 00:54.16 | pale_horse | hey rev, podcast your first good old hellfire and brimstone sermon |
| 00:54.27 | pales_rider | hi gary |
| 00:54.33 | pale_horse | lots of revelations in it |
| 00:54.35 | ahmrahtcheer | howdy howdy |
| 00:54.40 | pale_horse | hey gary |
| 00:55.09 | pales_rider | rev where did ya go? |
| 00:55.16 | revduhjenk | my wife and I sent trial sermons on CD's and the church committee called them 'tapes' |
| 00:55.22 | pales_rider | lol |
| 00:55.24 | pale_horse | LOL |
| 00:55.50 | ahmrahtcheer | rev, it's a committee...you know what Mark Twain had to say about them critters... |
| 00:56.04 | revduhjenk | used rezound and audacity...they are both really easy to work...and I think they can assist in podcastin...will have to look into that |
| 00:56.25 | pale_horse | audio > mp3 .. no biggie |
| 00:56.27 | revduhjenk | and Mark Twain was a Presbyterian, as well!!! |
| 00:56.31 | ahmrahtcheer | "A committee is the only organism with ninety-nine stomachs and no brains." |
| 00:56.37 | roxville | hehe |
| 00:56.41 | revduhjenk | hee hee |
| 00:56.45 | ahmrahtcheer | raised presbyterian, yeah...but he was a 'free-thinker' as an adult |
| 00:56.51 | pales_rider | hey rev meet ahmrahtcheer , hes a good friend of chraley and rox and mine |
| 00:57.06 | revduhjenk | I sorry ahmrahtcheer |
| 00:57.10 | pale_horse | and meetings are a place where minutes are kept and hours are wasted |
| 00:57.17 | revduhjenk | yep... |
| 00:57.29 | revduhjenk | and an expert is a former drip under pressure |
| 00:57.32 | pales_rider | i can see why you oput the "duh" in your name tonight |
| 00:57.45 | revduhjenk | yep...self induced power outage |
| 00:57.46 | ahmrahtcheer | nah, rev...extend your condolences to the pale-pair and to rox...they're definitely getting the worse end of the bargain. |
| 00:57.57 | revduhjenk | haah LOL |
| 00:57.58 | roxville | lol |
| 00:58.01 | roxville | true |
| 00:58.04 | roxville | :D |
| 00:58.08 | pale_horse | Gary is ALMOST as "warped" as I am .. only because I'm older |
| 00:58.12 | pales_rider | and the nitwit too |
| 00:58.23 | revduhjenk | you've had more time to prepare, eh |
| 00:58.29 | ahmrahtcheer | i disagree: i AM as warped...you have the experience, but i have the raw talent |
| 00:58.34 | pale_horse | speaking of nitwit .. where is gwildor ? |
| 00:58.50 | pales_rider | i meant david..lol |
| 00:59.00 | ahmrahtcheer | hey now...Gwildor's not a nitwit...he's just typographically challenged. |
| 00:59.10 | pales_rider | uh huh |
| 00:59.12 | roxville | he's still at school |
| 00:59.18 | pale_horse | gary, me -n- you need to head down to Liberty & Cut-n-Shoot for a day |
| 00:59.23 | roxville | he'll be home in a bit... i hope |
| 00:59.28 | revduhjenk | that is going around, I hear |
| 00:59.38 | pales_rider | yes david is still at shcool and well we all know where gwildor is |
| 00:59.41 | roxville | yeah |
| 00:59.47 | ahmrahtcheer | what/where is Liberty, charley? |
| 00:59.55 | ahmrahtcheer | Liberty, MO? |
| 00:59.59 | pale_horse | TX |
| 01:00.08 | ahmrahtcheer | oooohhhh, THAT place |
| 01:00.20 | pale_horse | have friends there that are as weird or more than me |
| 01:00.21 | revduhjenk | they pronounce it li-BER-ty in MO |
| 01:00.22 | pales_rider | are there any elk there? |
| 01:00.39 | ahmrahtcheer | sounds like a possible...depends. I don't go anywhere there ain't a decent Tex-Mex or BBQ joint. |
| 01:00.45 | pale_horse | no, sarge done shot em |
| 01:01.02 | pale_horse | I'll check with Jerry |
| 01:01.03 | ahmrahtcheer | TEXAS-style BBQ, that is...none o' this effete Kansas City stuff. i need the real beef |
| 01:01.10 | pales_rider | wow rev..there are no elk anywhere |
| 01:01.13 | pale_horse | kc crap is just that |
| 01:01.14 | revduhjenk | see |
| 01:01.44 | pales_rider | uh huh |
| 01:01.58 | revduhjenk | oooh |
| 01:02.00 | roxville | lol |
| 01:02.04 | ahmrahtcheer | ya gotta go to the Rockies for elk, these days |
| 01:02.09 | pale_horse | yup |
| 01:02.21 | pale_horse | or montana / canada area |
| 01:02.24 | revduhjenk | they are coming back in nw PA |
| 01:02.37 | pale_horse | w00t imma get me another one w00t |
| 01:02.47 | revduhjenk | in between warren and st. Mary's |
| 01:02.47 | ahmrahtcheer | not a big fan of elk...was too gamy, the times i tried it |
| 01:03.00 | ahmrahtcheer | gimme a spike whitetail, anyday |
| 01:03.03 | pale_horse | PA is 25 hours and I can whack one ( read poach ) |
| 01:03.28 | pales_rider | gary..you missed it...when rev was thinking of moving to elkin WVa... linuxnit asked him if there were elk there |
| 01:03.31 | revduhjenk | plenty of bear, make good sausauge |
| 01:03.34 | ahmrahtcheer | and you can drop a spike with a .22 hornet, don't have to alert half the county... |
| 01:03.40 | pales_rider | pa? elk? |
| 01:03.45 | revduhjenk | yep |
| 01:03.50 | pale_horse | I use a crossbow when I poach |
| 01:04.01 | revduhjenk | poor elk |
| 01:04.19 | revduhjenk | nothing in defense but bad breath |
| 01:04.21 | pales_rider | i poach eggs |
| 01:04.25 | pale_horse | 1st frost I'm out there |
| 01:04.25 | revduhjenk | LOL |
| 01:04.32 | ahmrahtcheer | just to clarify: we're talking about the 4 legged variety of elk. the only elks i ever saw in PA were a) 2-legged and b) shjt-faced |
| 01:04.45 | pales_rider | ty gary |
| 01:04.46 | revduhjenk | LOL |
| 01:05.02 | revduhjenk | the 4 legged are there, too |
| 01:05.03 | ahmrahtcheer | seen a fair number of moose up there, too, of the same vernacular |
| 01:05.12 | revduhjenk | and buffalo |
| 01:05.17 | revduhjenk | south of erie |
| 01:05.35 | revduhjenk | the lions are fairly tame |
| 01:05.38 | pales_rider | i didnt know there were elk in pa |
| 01:05.47 | pales_rider | lived next to it all my life |
| 01:05.55 | revduhjenk | see whatcha learn in #elive |
| 01:06.07 | revduhjenk | opposite corner |
| 01:06.18 | pale_horse | lots of buff not far from here and dang they are good eatin |
| 01:06.24 | pales_rider | must be |
| 01:06.27 | ahmrahtcheer | they's all round here |
| 01:06.33 | pale_horse | buff ? |
| 01:06.39 | revduhjenk | aloo |
| 01:06.39 | ahmrahtcheer | LOTS of buffalo ranchers in this neck of the woods |
| 01:06.41 | revduhjenk | alo |
| 01:06.43 | revduhjenk | allo |
| 01:06.53 | ahmrahtcheer | 'allo 'allo |
| 01:06.54 | pale_horse | same here and in OK on the Nations |
| 01:07.18 | pales_rider | well i can see buffalo being almost everywhere |
| 01:07.25 | ahmrahtcheer | with Vickie Michelle...w00t! |
| 01:07.39 | pale_horse | keo should be watching food channel |
| 01:07.39 | revduhjenk | oh, well...I have to get back to searching out good PIM;s for my fav elive |
| 01:07.51 | pale_horse | the "goddess of pie" is cooking |
| 01:07.57 | pales_rider | lol |
| 01:08.02 | pales_rider | hey rev..wait one second |
| 01:08.03 | revduhjenk | yikes |
| 01:08.08 | revduhjenk | yep |
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| 01:08.12 | pale_horse | she looks to be errrr 90 maybe |
| 01:08.16 | ahmrahtcheer | buffalo, longhorns, llamas, zebra, goats, fallow & axis deer...all sorts of critters bein' raised within 3-4 mi. of here. |
| 01:08.16 | revduhjenk | yay...LC is back |
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| 01:08.25 | ahmrahtcheer | not counting the usual cattle of sundry sorts |
| 01:08.45 | LC | darn internet |
| 01:08.56 | PrinceAMD | hey |
| 01:09.06 | revduhjenk | hello LC and PrinceAMD |
| 01:09.11 | pale_horse | there are some longhorn here that have to be show cattle .. must have a 6' rack |
| 01:09.12 | PrinceAMD | good night/morning/whenever |
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| 01:09.15 | PrinceAMD | i need some help |
| 01:09.28 | pale_horse | professional help ? |
| 01:09.40 | PrinceAMD | firefox keeps crashing :( |
| 01:10.07 | PrinceAMD | i'm using elive .5 beta 3.4 |
| 01:10.08 | ahmrahtcheer | i kept meanin' to get a pic of the kids with a neighbor's (relatively speaking) longhorn cow over in Valley View...he had a brindle longhorn with a 7'+ spread |
| 01:10.16 | revduhjenk | did you do an upgrade or update? |
| 01:10.24 | pale_horse | WOW .. big steer |
| 01:10.26 | ahmrahtcheer | sweetest natured cow i ever met, but looked some kind of fierce |
| 01:10.31 | PrinceAMD | yea i did upgrade on elive |
| 01:10.33 | pales_rider | rev.. did you get my pm? |
| 01:10.34 | ahmrahtcheer | no, cow, not steer |
| 01:10.35 | PrinceAMD | not on firefox though |
| 01:10.41 | pale_horse | wow |
| 01:10.47 | pale_horse | bet she is pretty |
| 01:11.07 | ahmrahtcheer | she was beeeyoootiful! very affectionate, very 'kissy' |
| 01:11.27 | pales_rider | you mean beeeMOOOtiful |
| 01:11.31 | revduhjenk | I know, but i3d was in same kind of predicament yesterday, PrinceAMD, and because of update |
| 01:11.34 | pale_horse | if ya like your hand getting sanded |
| 01:11.34 | ahmrahtcheer | the boys'd have come away from meetin' her with the real deal cowlicks |
| 01:11.45 | revduhjenk | if you didn't do that, I don't know |
| 01:12.08 | PrinceAMD | this sucks |
| 01:12.14 | roxville | PrinceAMD, yeah it does... but... |
| 01:12.18 | PrinceAMD | is there anyway to FIX THIS! |
| 01:12.32 | roxville | thana is building a new iso now |
| 01:12.38 | ahmrahtcheer | 'at's what Hillary said of Monica... |
| 01:12.49 | roxville | pre-stable... he's a very cautious man... |
| 01:13.00 | pales_rider | lol gary |
| 01:13.04 | revduhjenk | or go back to 3.2 beta |
| 01:13.09 | roxville | PrinceAMD, you can also load audo config and set it to use ALSA |
| 01:13.26 | roxville | that should fix it, actually |
| 01:13.35 | pale_horse | ditto |
| 01:13.41 | PrinceAMD | ALSA? |
| 01:13.49 | ahmrahtcheer | Pat V was supposed to release 11.0 Sunday. instead he released 11rc4 |
| 01:13.53 | PrinceAMD | my sound is working fine |
| 01:14.02 | revduhjenk | is that what is crashing firefox, roxville ? |
| 01:14.08 | PrinceAMD | kool |
| 01:14.18 | roxville | so it seems |
| 01:14.18 | PrinceAMD | that's the full command |
| 01:14.29 | PrinceAMD | i dont wanna go typing sshit :) |
| 01:14.30 | roxville | i have actually not had time to test it |
| 01:14.53 | PrinceAMD | how to run the audo config? |
| 01:14.59 | PrinceAMD | or alsa-conf |
| 01:15.05 | roxville | elpanel |
| 01:15.38 | revduhjenk | hey pales_rider I haven't authenticated! hee hee |
| 01:15.48 | revduhjenk | but I got your message. and will be visiting... |
| 01:15.56 | pales_rider | great!!! |
| 01:16.04 | revduhjenk | was there once with the 'boys' it was crazy |
| 01:16.17 | pales_rider | you were? |
| 01:16.31 | revduhjenk | they didn't believe I was a real rev |
| 01:16.34 | revduhjenk | hee hee |
| 01:16.41 | revduhjenk | got a LOT of diret |
| 01:16.45 | revduhjenk | *dirt |
| 01:16.47 | pales_rider | you went there for real? |
| 01:16.54 | revduhjenk | yes, ask charles |
| 01:17.07 | pales_rider | i sure will |
| 01:17.10 | revduhjenk | just a short visit before packing up in erie |
| 01:17.18 | revduhjenk | it has been a while |
| 01:17.21 | pales_rider | oh ok |
| 01:17.36 | pales_rider | well nitwit and rox are usually there |
| 01:17.45 | revduhjenk | which nitwit |
| 01:17.49 | pales_rider | david |
| 01:17.53 | revduhjenk | oh that one |
| 01:17.55 | revduhjenk | hee hee |
| 01:17.57 | pales_rider | lol |
| 01:18.15 | revduhjenk | well, I'mm off |
| 01:18.22 | pales_rider | nice to see you |
| 01:18.22 | revduhjenk | g'nite all |
| 01:18.24 | pales_rider | take care |
| 01:18.28 | pales_rider | g'nite |
| 01:18.29 | ahmrahtcheer | 'nite rev, nice meetin' y'all |
| 01:18.31 | revduhjenk | you bet |
| 01:18.34 | roxville | nite revduhjenk |
| 01:18.36 | pale_horse | nite rev |
| 01:18.40 | revduhjenk | have a buff burger on me |
| 01:18.46 | revduhjenk | hee hee |
| 01:18.50 | pale_horse | you betcha |
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| 01:25.45 | roxville | PrinceAMD, ya got it fixed yet? |
| 01:26.22 | PrinceAMD | roxville: THANKZZZZZZZZZzz |
| 01:26.30 | PrinceAMD | yea it's workin goooooooood |
| 01:26.55 | roxville | awesome dude! |
| 01:26.56 | PrinceAMD | so where is keyra? |
| 01:26.59 | PrinceAMD | yep |
| 01:27.10 | roxville | dunno... ya miss her? :) |
| 01:27.17 | PrinceAMD | maybe |
| 01:27.21 | PrinceAMD | where is linuxnit |
| 01:27.27 | PrinceAMD | he offline for once |
| 01:27.35 | PrinceAMD | sup MetaPhaze |
| 01:27.44 | roxville | yeah, he's in school , still |
| 01:27.44 | PrinceAMD | LC= lick candy |
| 01:27.53 | PrinceAMD | :( |
| 01:28.07 | PrinceAMD | LC=linuxChick |
| 01:28.08 | LC | lol |
| 01:28.11 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 01:28.20 | PrinceAMD | i got u'r attention |
| 01:28.22 | PrinceAMD | that's good |
| 01:28.25 | PrinceAMD | how r u? |
| 01:28.35 | LC | I'm ok, you? |
| 01:28.39 | PrinceAMD | sinplomo: sup? |
| 01:28.48 | PrinceAMD | i'm good now thanks to roxville |
| 01:28.58 | PrinceAMD | i was havin a firefox headach |
| 01:29.08 | PrinceAMD | apt:firefox |
| 01:29.16 | apt | from memory, firefox is the lightweight browser from the Mozilla Project, formerly named Mozilla Firebird, formerly Phoenix. See also: Thunderbird. |
| 01:29.42 | PrinceAMD | :) Firebird |
| 01:30.07 | PrinceAMD | LC: what yah doing? |
| 01:30.22 | LC | chattin, surfin |
| 01:30.30 | LC | helpin my kids with homework |
| 01:30.37 | LC | chillin after a long day at work |
| 01:30.40 | LC | so, not much |
| 01:30.41 | LC | lol |
| 01:31.03 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 01:31.05 | roxville | lol |
| 01:31.07 | PrinceAMD | u call that nothing much |
| 01:31.47 | PrinceAMD | roxville: what u doing? |
| 01:31.52 | LC | for me, usually, yea |
| 01:32.55 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 01:33.48 | PrinceAMD | well i'm just playing some marilyn manson, browsin, chatting oh and i'm bored |
| 01:34.01 | PrinceAMD | can u guys giv me something dangerous to do on linux |
| 01:34.15 | PrinceAMD | i wanna like blow something or something |
| 01:34.19 | PrinceAMD | please!!! |
| 01:34.36 | pale_horse | sudo cfdisk hda |
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| 01:34.54 | PrinceAMD | LC: i like kids my wife she's in for a dozen :) |
| 01:35.08 | LC | I stopped at 3 |
| 01:35.11 | PrinceAMD | what will that do |
| 01:35.16 | PrinceAMD | only 3 |
| 01:35.21 | PrinceAMD | nice |
| 01:35.23 | LC | yes! 3 is plenty |
| 01:35.25 | pale_horse | or sudo mkfs t-ext3 hda |
| 01:35.30 | PrinceAMD | but was thinkin like 12 |
| 01:35.45 | PrinceAMD | lol i dont think i wanna reinstall rite noww |
| 01:36.14 | PrinceAMD | but will it work in a normal terminal? |
| 01:36.46 | PrinceAMD | LC: how much girls n boys u have |
| 01:37.04 | pale_horse | yes mkefs -t ext3 /dev/hda1 |
| 01:37.15 | pale_horse | prefix with sudo |
| 01:37.20 | PrinceAMD | kool |
| 01:37.31 | PrinceAMD | pale_horse: thanks alot |
| 01:38.01 | pale_horse | sure .. use at your own risk |
| 01:38.06 | LC | PrinceAMD, 2 boys 14 & 6 |
| 01:38.10 | LC | one girl 12 |
| 01:38.23 | PrinceAMD | kool |
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| 01:38.34 | PrinceAMD | i'm 17 n my sis is 19 |
| 01:38.40 | PrinceAMD | but i'm THE MAN! |
| 01:38.50 | PrinceAMD | i'm THE BOSS! |
| 01:38.55 | PrinceAMD | i run THINGS! |
| 01:38.56 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 01:39.29 | LC | lol |
| 01:39.51 | PrinceAMD | my sis feel she big but i know I'M BIG! |
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| 01:40.10 | revdjenk | ohhh |
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| 01:54.58 | roxville | <PrinceAMD> roxville: what u doing? |
| 01:55.09 | roxville | i was putting my daughter to bed |
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| 02:26.51 | roxville | hola quidam- :) |
| 02:26.58 | keyra | roxville: que tal ? |
| 02:28.04 | quidam- | roxville, HEYĀ”Ā”Ā” i think today in you, i need your help :D |
| 02:28.29 | roxville | hehe quidam- sure my friend, whatever i can do! |
| 02:31.22 | quidam- | roxville, remember the logo for ULAnix? well i need a logo like this but with the text "PEADS" |
| 02:31.37 | quidam- | is for the web page of my old office |
| 02:32.16 | quidam- | can you help me? |
| 02:34.16 | roxville | sure! |
| 02:34.25 | roxville | any special colour? |
| 02:34.31 | quidam- | blue |
| 02:34.35 | roxville | coclours |
| 02:34.36 | quidam- | always blue :P |
| 02:34.44 | quidam- | is the color of the university |
| 02:34.46 | roxville | and background? |
| 02:34.49 | quidam- | but you can use more color |
| 02:34.59 | quidam- | background trasparent |
| 02:35.08 | roxville | quidam-, is the web page up and running now? |
| 02:35.13 | quidam- | because i need use this logo in other images |
| 02:35.25 | quidam- | peads.com, there is just a joomla page |
| 02:35.32 | roxville | and i need again the blue |
| 02:35.37 | quidam- | i will change all of this |
| 02:35.48 | roxville | but the theme is what you are gonna use? |
| 02:36.06 | quidam- | jum nop |
| 02:36.14 | quidam- | i will change the red menu |
| 02:36.16 | quidam- | for a blue color |
| 02:36.37 | roxville | wow, nice theme! |
| 02:37.46 | quidam- | jum, the blue number is #336699 |
| 02:38.02 | roxville | awesome! |
| 02:39.02 | quidam- | this theme is default in joomla-es ;) |
| 02:40.08 | roxville | ahh :) |
| 02:43.43 | Mutacion | oralesh |
| 02:47.36 | roxville | ok Mutacion if you say so :) |
| 02:47.50 | Mutacion | haha |
| 02:48.02 | Mutacion | orale..is an xpresion like .. WOW |
| 02:48.10 | keyra | Mutacion: woooha! |
| 02:48.16 | Mutacion | qiubole keyra |
| 02:54.49 | quidam- | Ć.Ć |
| 02:55.24 | roxville | quidam-, what does PEADS mean? or stand for? |
| 02:56.39 | quidam- | Programa de Estudios Abiertos en Desarrollo Social <- Mutacion lo podrias traducir? xD |
| 02:57.00 | Mutacion | Ah ok |
| 02:57.21 | Mutacion | mmm..let me see....its a hard traduction |
| 02:57.59 | Mutacion | Open Studying Program for the Social Development |
| 02:58.08 | Mutacion | :) eeh qe tal la traduccion? |
| 02:58.19 | quidam- | mejor de lo que pensaba :P |
| 02:58.45 | quidam- | roxville, yeah i work with hippiesĀ” xD |
| 02:59.04 | roxville | hehe |
| 02:59.18 | roxville | ok, just so i get a feel for what font to use |
| 02:59.42 | quidam- | :) |
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| 03:04.39 | revdjenk | roxville ping |
| 03:13.00 | quidam- | keyra, PING |
| 03:13.07 | quidam- | what is elive? |
| 03:13.27 | quidam- | keyra, what is elive? |
| 03:13.31 | quidam- | keyra, what is elive |
| 03:13.35 | keyra | quidam-: search in google |
| 03:13.56 | Thanatermesis | LOL |
| 03:14.00 | revdjenk | no use alta vista |
| 03:14.19 | Thanatermesis | no! vista no! |
| 03:14.21 | quidam- | what is ubuntu ? |
| 03:14.29 | keyra | quidam-: Ubuntu is OFF topic |
| 03:14.33 | revdjenk | path to elive |
| 03:15.39 | Thanatermesis | Elive derailed |
| 03:15.44 | quidam- | keyra, can you show me your "culito" ? |
| 03:15.49 | quidam- | xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 03:16.06 | Thanatermesis | preguntale por sus t****s ;) |
| 03:17.36 | Thanatermesis | apt, ping |
| 03:17.41 | apt | pong |
| 03:18.21 | quidam- | apt, kill keyra |
| 03:18.22 | apt | ACTION shoots a fluxtachyon gun at keyra |
| 03:18.28 | keyra | quidam-: try with apt, im not a bot :P |
| 03:18.40 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 03:18.53 | roxville | hehe |
| 03:18.59 | quidam- | love keyra |
| 03:19.00 | revdjenk | roxville |
| 03:19.14 | roxville | quidam-, this is made in xara... i'll try with gimp next |
| 03:19.21 | roxville | http://roxville.no-ip.org/e107_plugins/autogallery/autogallery.php?show=e-logos%20and%20stuff%2Fpeads1.png |
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| 03:19.27 | roxville | revdjenk, |
| 03:19.33 | roxville | LinuxNIT, |
| 03:19.41 | LinuxNIT | hi roxville revdjenk |
| 03:19.43 | roxville | welcome to #elive |
| 03:19.44 | revdjenk | trying to get a ms app working in wine |
| 03:19.54 | Thanatermesis | yay |
| 03:19.55 | roxville | ok |
| 03:19.58 | roxville | good luck |
| 03:19.59 | revdjenk | need to run winecfg to change some things, but won't fire up |
| 03:19.59 | quidam- | loooooooool, roxville jajajajaja this is a real funny text xDDDDDDDD |
| 03:20.14 | roxville | :) |
| 03:20.23 | roxville | hippie enough? |
| 03:20.31 | roxville | or too much? |
| 03:20.56 | quidam- | too much xD |
| 03:21.03 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, wine from the repos does not have winecfg |
| 03:21.10 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, youll have to get it from winehq.com |
| 03:21.14 | revdjenk | ah |
| 03:21.18 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 03:21.31 | Thanatermesis | revdjenk, this app is on a CD ? |
| 03:21.35 | revdjenk | that's why I couldn't find it!!! well, learning file structure |
| 03:21.38 | quidam- | the people there is hippie but the logo need be more serious |
| 03:21.45 | revdjenk | no, it is e-Sword |
| 03:21.49 | revdjenk | a bible |
| 03:22.03 | roxville | ok quidam- :) |
| 03:22.04 | quidam- | roxville, but i really like this logo xDDDDDD |
| 03:22.04 | Thanatermesis | revdjenk, launch "wine yourfile.exe" |
| 03:22.33 | revdjenk | yes, but it doesn't start, needs to be tweaked in dll area |
| 03:22.45 | LinuxNIT | Thanatermesis, for e-sword to work he has to change the setting of a dll.... do you know how to do that in the installed wine?> |
| 03:22.51 | revdjenk | ok, I'll go d/l winecfg |
| 03:23.11 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, you have to get wine itself from there... not just winecfg |
| 03:23.13 | Thanatermesis | revdjenk, maybe copyig the .dll of windows ? but no idea... i don't use those kind of stuff's :) |
| 03:23.14 | quidam- | roxville, but we can work with this tomorrow |
| 03:23.21 | quidam- | i need go to the bed |
| 03:23.44 | revdjenk | but wine is already on elive... |
| 03:23.46 | quidam- | my mom is screaming "TIME TO SLEEP"Ā”Ā”Ā”Ā” |
| 03:23.50 | quidam- | xDDDDDDDD |
| 03:23.59 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, different version |
| 03:24.04 | revdjenk | ah... |
| 03:24.13 | revdjenk | i see it is up to 9.17 |
| 03:24.18 | Thanatermesis | revdjenk, do you write post's on your website ? |
| 03:24.21 | revdjenk | elive has 9.15 |
| 03:24.32 | revdjenk | I don't have a website |
| 03:24.41 | revdjenk | need to do that |
| 03:24.52 | Thanatermesis | revdjenk, do you have tried "apt-cache search bible" ? ;) |
| 03:25.25 | revdjenk | no...but e-sword is far better than any linux bible app |
| 03:25.49 | revdjenk | it is not open source, but free |
| 03:27.46 | Thanatermesis | revdjenk, you can use a old computer for made your own web-server ;) |
| 03:27.58 | Thanatermesis | i need to make a stuff on Elive about this... |
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| 03:29.04 | revdjenk | yes... but gave that away when I moved...but may have another soon |
| 03:30.50 | Thanatermesis | yeah, obtain a old computer to run's day and night for your own website server and all of you want on it ;) |
| 03:31.27 | revdjenk | I have looked at several linux web apps, too |
| 03:34.11 | PrinceAMD | roxville: was outside |
| 03:34.42 | pales_rider | oh rev... LinuxNIT is here now...LOL |
| 03:35.30 | pales_rider | well he was anyway :/ |
| 03:35.53 | Thanatermesis | just rebooted for make ATI tests ;) |
| 03:38.29 | revdjenk | yep,,,but I still have a prob |
| 03:38.31 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 03:39.12 | Thanatermesis | what problem ? |
| 03:39.12 | revdjenk | Thanatermesis, I thought you had the ATI fixed? AMD has been calling me about it. |
| 03:39.28 | Thanatermesis | yes, is fixed for the stable version of 0.5 :) |
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| 03:39.38 | revdjenk | I can't get the dll to work correctly...so the app won't start |
| 03:39.44 | Thanatermesis | well, fgrlx works with 3d... but radeon... not sure, not tested btw |
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| 03:40.37 | Thanatermesis | exist another thing similar to wine called cedega, i think to has more dll stuff's |
| 03:40.46 | revdjenk | BTW, my grandfather would always tell us that major grocery stores would call him to supply them vegetables, when all he had was a little garden! |
| 03:41.17 | revdjenk | yes, that is a choice now, eh |
| 03:41.35 | Elive_user40 | This is my FIRST time using Elive and it is TRULY amazing. |
| 03:41.47 | revdjenk | yay, welcome Elive_user40 !! |
| 03:42.02 | Elive_user40 | Thank you kindly. |
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| 03:42.22 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user40, the next version stable is very near ;) |
| 03:42.22 | Elive_user40 | I'm grateful to ALL the folks who worked together to create this distro. |
| 03:42.35 | Elive_user94 | sorry pales_rider revdjenk i hit reboot just as you mentioned me |
| 03:42.53 | revdjenk | and some wonderful ppl to help here, and the developer just gave you a big hint |
| 03:42.55 | Elive_user40 | The "next stable version" ... wonderful. |
| 03:43.59 | pales_rider | thats ok LinuxNIT |
| 03:44.10 | pales_rider | it was a poor attempt at sarcasm |
| 03:44.44 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 03:44.45 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:44.51 | roxville | qui |
| 03:44.53 | revdjenk | yes, elive has been improving SO much since end of July...and is completely different than just six months |
| 03:44.58 | revdjenk | ago |
| 03:45.03 | roxville | where did the f-er go? |
| 03:45.25 | revdjenk | he left with a group |
| 03:45.29 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 03:45.40 | revdjenk | BTW wonderful xara backgrounds, roxville |
| 03:45.47 | roxville | lol, yeah i saw now |
| 03:46.00 | roxville | thx :) |
| 03:46.03 | Thanatermesis | revdjenk, :) |
| 03:46.06 | revdjenk | yes |
| 03:46.28 | revdjenk | well, it is true, eh? |
| 03:46.30 | Elive_user40 | It appears that Enlightment is one of the things that makes Elive so amazing. |
| 03:47.03 | LinuxNIT | one of many |
| 03:47.06 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 03:47.10 | revdjenk | that is the kicker to the whole thing |
| 03:47.18 | revdjenk | but elpanel... |
| 03:47.32 | revdjenk | is unique to elive |
| 03:48.02 | LinuxNIT | :-D |
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| 03:49.14 | revdjenk | a lot of us here, have been using it since Feb... and I have been using it instead of windoze |
| 03:49.37 | Elive_user40 | I definitely see the value in Elive. |
| 03:49.55 | Elive_user40 | Has anyone been able to play their DVDs under Elive. |
| 03:49.57 | revdjenk | makes enlightenment a system |
| 03:50.23 | Elive_user40 | For some reason I've not yet been successful with that piece, as of yet. |
| 03:50.42 | revdjenk | I have locally produced...have never tried any commercial ones, come to think of it |
| 03:51.30 | roxville | Elive_user40, since elive is in beta... it kinda depends on what version you run... if DVD's will work... |
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| 03:53.17 | revdjenk | which version are you using Elive_user40 |
| 03:54.58 | Elive_user40 | Funny you should ask. I'm actually still running the "Live" version from the iso file. |
| 03:55.07 | Elive_user40 | Before long ... |
| 03:55.30 | roxville | Elive_user40, no no no no..... |
| 03:55.37 | revdjenk | is this the .5 beta? and 3.2, 3.4? |
| 03:55.37 | Elive_user40 | I do plan to install Elive under my session of VMware. |
| 03:55.37 | roxville | that's not important... |
| 03:55.58 | roxville | what's important is: what VERSION of the live cd are you running? :) |
| 03:56.23 | roxville | or iso file |
| 03:56.35 | Elive_user40 | I can find out a just a few seconds ... |
| 03:56.59 | liuxnit | cat /etc/elive-version |
| 03:57.24 | Elive_user40 | version 0.4.2 for the iso file. |
| 03:57.34 | liuxnit | last stable |
| 03:57.36 | revdjenk | aha |
| 03:58.36 | roxville | aha |
| 03:58.41 | revdjenk | you will not believe where we are now... if you wait maybe a week... |
| 03:59.00 | roxville | revdjenk, not even a wekk |
| 03:59.09 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 03:59.12 | roxville | thana's upload is slow... but not THAT slow |
| 04:00.08 | roxville | Elive_user40, go here: http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/Development/ |
| 04:00.14 | revdjenk | Elive_user40, Thana is working on .6 even as we speak, and .5 stable is d/l if roxville is saying what he is saying |
| 04:00.16 | roxville | scroll down for the mirrors |
| 04:00.27 | roxville | now Elive_user40 i would recommend... |
| 04:00.46 | roxville | that you wait a day and download the pre-stable version |
| 04:01.30 | Elive_user40 | Your counsel is well taken ... |
| 04:01.31 | roxville | it will be the last beta... but it seems most things are working |
| 04:01.42 | roxville | this is just a LAST check before stable |
| 04:01.43 | Elive_user40 | I will wait for the pre-stable version. |
| 04:01.53 | roxville | :) |
| 04:02.03 | revdjenk | that will be smart...but you will be very surprised |
| 04:03.19 | revdjenk | if you see you have a choice between to desktops, e16 or 17...the default is 16, but that will switch to 17 ... |
| 04:03.34 | revdjenk | well, the beta's have already seen that switch |
| 04:04.02 | roxville | yeah |
| 04:04.40 | revdjenk | oh roxville I d/l xaralx tonight, and it was in the menu automatically!! |
| 04:04.55 | roxville | cool! |
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| 04:05.26 | roxville | revdjenk, hmmm... i'd suggest you d/l an unstable from xara website |
| 04:05.38 | roxville | the tar pack |
| 04:06.01 | revdjenk | I did apt-get |
| 04:06.07 | revdjenk | did just fine |
| 04:06.09 | roxville | and just open it... go to bin and double-click on the xara brain |
| 04:07.06 | revdjenk | I did that last time... |
| 04:07.31 | revdjenk | but this time, it just flowed w/o any intervention from me... |
| 04:08.29 | roxville | lol, ok :) |
| 04:09.22 | revdjenk | I'm just playing, not developing beaoooty that you are. |
| 04:11.33 | Elive_user40 | The "xara" website? You mean to tell me that Elive is connected with xara? Incredible. |
| 04:11.56 | PrinceAMD | http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=109399072844fbc39ea9ff3&p=screen :) just me |
| 04:13.08 | Mutacion | PrinceAMD, really nice shot |
| 04:13.10 | revdjenk | no, right now, xara is not installable thru synaptic and elive...but if you do apt-get, or go to the website, bam, its there |
| 04:13.17 | Mutacion | bye ppl |
| 04:13.17 | liuxnit | Elive_user40, connected no.. but some Elive_users use xara |
| 04:13.19 | Mutacion | bye rox |
| 04:13.24 | Mutacion | bye prince |
| 04:13.28 | PrinceAMD | Mutcion: thanks |
| 04:13.28 | Mutacion | ayo0 revdjenk |
| 04:13.32 | revdjenk | bye Mutacion |
| 04:13.33 | PrinceAMD | i do try my best |
| 04:13.34 | Mutacion | ato0 liuxnit |
| 04:13.37 | PrinceAMD | LOVE ELIVE! |
| 04:13.39 | liuxnit | cya |
| 04:14.11 | *** part/#elive Mutacion (n=Mutacion@201.155.156.140) |
| 04:14.48 | revdjenk | yikes... PrinceAMD you did say you liked dark themes.... |
| 04:16.16 | PrinceAMD | i did? |
| 04:16.33 | PrinceAMD | once everything matches everything n it looks good |
| 04:16.35 | revdjenk | a day or two ago...I think it was you |
| 04:16.40 | PrinceAMD | i'm happy |
| 04:16.52 | PrinceAMD | cant remember |
| 04:17.22 | revdjenk | well, 2 in the morning... I can begin to get confused |
| 04:18.06 | revdjenk | and probably should go now... |
| 04:18.30 | liuxnit | :-/ |
| 04:18.30 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 04:18.33 | PrinceAMD | sleep well |
| 04:18.38 | revdjenk | thx |
| 04:18.47 | liuxnit | later revdjenk |
| 04:19.26 | revdjenk | AND liuxnit have fun at school |
| 04:19.36 | liuxnit | hahhaha |
| 04:19.41 | revdjenk | heee heeee |
| 04:19.44 | liuxnit | ;) |
| 04:19.46 | revdjenk | g'nite |
| 04:19.48 | liuxnit | its not too bad |
| 04:19.49 | liuxnit | gnight |
| 04:19.51 | revdjenk | and God Bless |
| 04:20.37 | roxville | Elive_user40, no, xara is not connected to elive... but some of us like to use xara, that's all |
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| 04:38.03 | Elive_user40 | "apt-get" ... I will definitely give that baby a try. |
| 04:38.13 | roxville | :) |
| 04:38.16 | Elive_user40 | Thanks revdjenk. |
| 04:38.22 | LinuxNIT | apt get me a beer |
| 04:38.26 | apt | get your own! |
| 04:38.30 | LinuxNIT | apt sucks |
| 04:38.31 | apt | For $5 I'll do more than that! |
| 04:38.36 | roxville | PrinceAMD, that's a darn nice xmms theme... what's it called and link and all that good stuff |
| 04:38.38 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:38.39 | roxville | pls? |
| 04:38.43 | LinuxNIT | apt get roxville a beer |
| 04:38.52 | roxville | lol |
| 04:39.27 | LinuxNIT | apt get LinuxNIT a beer |
| 04:39.42 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 04:39.49 | PrinceAMD | it's about time u ask |
| 04:39.55 | PrinceAMD | i forgot the link |
| 04:40.08 | PrinceAMD | let me check abit for u |
| 04:40.26 | roxville | ok |
| 04:41.27 | PrinceAMD | i was eager to install elive 0.5 beta 3.4 n forget to back up my home folder n lost every thing :( |
| 04:41.35 | PrinceAMD | dont worry i got a goodish memory |
| 04:41.46 | roxville | lol |
| 04:42.06 | roxville | sorry dude... been there... it sucks |
| 04:43.21 | PrinceAMD | well i told u i have a good memory so here it is |
| 04:43.23 | PrinceAMD | http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=41102 |
| 04:44.41 | roxville | wow, thanks! |
| 04:45.11 | PrinceAMD | no problem now i have it back too :) |
| 04:46.06 | roxville | :) |
| 04:46.16 | roxville | ok, time to tuck in! |
| 04:46.23 | roxville | see y'all tomorrow |
| 04:47.09 | PrinceAMD | later |
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| 12:54.41 | Detox | hello folks |
| 12:54.48 | keyra | Detox: hi |
| 12:55.00 | Detox | hi ,,, any idea where lpd is? |
| 12:55.23 | Detox | am adding a network printer and it needs me to restart /etc/init.d/lpd |
| 12:55.31 | keyra | Detox: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Network_Printing_using_Linux |
| 12:55.33 | Detox | but htere is no such animal |
| 12:55.41 | Detox | thank |
| 12:58.10 | Detox | this is for adding a printer connected to another pc ... I have an acutal network printer |
| 12:58.17 | keyra | Detox: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Network_Printing_using_Linux |
| 12:59.01 | Detox | yes I read it ,,, am I missing something? the printer has it's own ip address |
| 12:59.10 | Gwildor | Detox, i have the same setup...... |
| 12:59.38 | Gwildor | Detox, i found it easiest to install the printer on one machine, and then use that machines printer for all the others...... |
| 12:59.44 | Detox | ok give me a min to read again (it is a brother HL-2070N) |
| 12:59.54 | Detox | network printer |
| 13:00.12 | Detox | had it set up at6 one time them pc died now i have to figure out how i did it |
| 13:00.12 | Gwildor | yeah, i have a networked hplaserjet 4100 (i might have that same brother @ the office) |
| 13:00.47 | Gwildor | Detox, on Elive, it took me like 3 clicks to install the HP laserjet... |
| 13:00.54 | Gwildor | BUT, i used my print server.. |
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| 13:02.11 | Detox | I have to get the lpd and cups .deb from brother, install in order of lpd then cups (dpkg-i --force-all *lpd deb) |
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| 13:02.22 | Detox | then cups deb |
| 13:02.42 | Detox | it calls for me to edit /etc/printcap |
| 13:03.06 | Detox | i did now it wants me to reastart /etc/init.d/lpd restart |
| 13:03.10 | Detox | but that file is not there |
| 13:03.28 | Detox | the lpd file |
| 13:03.34 | Detox | si not in init.d |
| 13:05.26 | Gwildor | hehe, thats alot of work.. |
| 13:05.41 | Detox | ya ,, it was a ral pain lat time |
| 13:05.43 | Gwildor | i have my printer installed on an XP box.....and i jsut installed that, took like 3 mouse clicks |
| 13:06.17 | Detox | my "normal" printer is a dell a960 ,, win only driver printer will not work in linux |
| 13:07.17 | Gwildor | ok, so get the brother printing on the XP box, "share" the rpinter, give it a name, then use elpanel to install the brother...will b easy |
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| 13:07.56 | Gwildor | elive will then send the print jox to the windows box....wich will send the job to the printer (but you wont know the difference, it will jstu "print" |
| 13:08.04 | Gwildor | s/jox/job |
| 13:08.14 | Detox | cannot ,,, is network printer only ,, sits by router ,, in other room |
| 13:08.21 | keyra | Detox: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Network_Printing_using_Linux |
| 13:08.32 | Detox | yes keyra thanks i have that |
| 13:08.36 | Detox | will read it again |
| 13:08.39 | keyra | Detox: youre welcome :) |
| 13:09.57 | Detox | what do you make of this:: |
| 13:10.00 | Detox | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.00 | Detox | lpadmin: Unable to copy PPD file! |
| 13:11.23 | Gwildor | Detox, then how do you print?....if it is installed on a windows box....you can "share" that printer./.... |
| 13:11.28 | Detox | this folder is in /etc |
| 13:11.42 | Detox | ok back up <<<<<< |
| 13:11.47 | Gwildor | i know this, cuz ive done it ........30 times |
| 13:12.00 | Detox | my system has 4 pc's 1 win xp (laptop) main pc for work |
| 13:12.10 | Detox | all others are linux ( my personal) |
| 13:12.23 | Detox | network printer is connected top router |
| 13:12.25 | Gwildor | ok, so go to the windows pc, hop on irc, and ill help |
| 13:12.30 | keyra | Detox: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Network_Printing_using_Linux |
| 13:12.38 | Gwildor | i want to kill keyra |
| 13:12.45 | keyra | Gwildor: try with apt, im not a bot :P |
| 13:12.56 | Gwildor | SUURE |
| 13:13.33 | Detox | i print fine win win box ... it's the linux box's that5 i have to mannual configure ,, the file structure is not matching |
| 13:14.07 | Detox | i think i can solve it if i cn jsut unarchive the deb file ,,, manually put it in the /etc/cups folder |
| 13:14.12 | Detox | then it will wortk ok |
| 13:14.59 | Gwildor | ok, go about it however you want.. |
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| 13:15.22 | Gwildor | all im saying is...the way i do it....it takes about 3 click on the linux box (assuming its Elive) |
| 13:15.54 | Gwildor | not to mentions, sharing the printer only takes about 3 clicks..... |
| 13:16.04 | Gwildor | so, about 6 clicks, you can be printing |
| 13:16.09 | Detox | yes I understand you have your printer attached to you win pc? |
| 13:16.23 | Gwildor | no, i have the printer attached to the router...jstu like you |
| 13:16.36 | Detox | due to location of printer and router i cnnot attach to my win pc |
| 13:16.39 | Detox | ok |
| 13:16.40 | Detox | sorry |
| 13:16.55 | Detox | am getting frustrated ,, to many things open |
| 13:17.00 | Detox | ok deep breath |
| 13:17.04 | Gwildor | it doesnt have to be "attached" to your windows PC.....but it is "installed" on your windows PC....meaning you CAN print form windows... |
| 13:17.11 | Detox | yes |
| 13:17.24 | Gwildor | ok, so if you go to your windows box.... |
| 13:17.29 | Detox | ok |
| 13:17.34 | Gwildor | go to the printer preferences, and turn on "sharing"... |
| 13:17.51 | Gwildor | then you can go to elpanel, and install the printer using a netowrk path |
| 13:18.09 | Gwildor | mine is </printserv/lj4100> |
| 13:18.28 | Gwildor | then i enter the login:pass for printserv..and presto, i print |
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| 13:18.54 | Detox_BRB | ok am on win |
| 13:19.18 | Gwildor | ok, control panel..printers....print preferences |
| 13:20.10 | Gwildor | i am sorry |
| 13:20.11 | Detox_on_XP | ok |
| 13:20.17 | Gwildor | we do not want print preferences |
| 13:20.22 | Detox_on_XP | oki |
| 13:20.25 | Gwildor | we want "properties" of the printer |
| 13:20.29 | Detox_on_XP | ok |
| 13:20.32 | Gwildor | right click.........properties |
| 13:20.38 | Gwildor | then go to the sharing tab |
| 13:20.54 | Detox_on_XP | ok |
| 13:21.05 | Gwildor | "share this printer"...and give it a name... "brother" will be fine |
| 13:21.24 | Detox_on_XP | ok |
| 13:21.37 | Detox_on_XP | click apply right? |
| 13:22.16 | Gwildor | yup |
| 13:22.21 | Detox_on_XP | ok |
| 13:22.24 | Gwildor | then ok |
| 13:22.29 | Gwildor | and go back to elive box |
| 13:22.31 | Detox_on_XP | ok |
| 13:22.45 | Detox | ok here |
| 13:22.48 | Gwildor | :D |
| 13:22.55 | Detox | i run fast |
| 13:23.04 | Detox | pant pant |
| 13:23.15 | Gwildor | go to elpanel...printers....install new (you will have to excuse, im in windows ATM, and i dont recall the exact location of elpanel stuff) |
| 13:23.25 | Detox | ok |
| 13:23.43 | Gwildor | and then there should be an option of "installed on another computer" or something like that |
| 13:24.07 | Gwildor | if you cant get it, ill boot elive |
| 13:24.13 | Detox | all ther is "New Printer" |
| 13:24.18 | Gwildor | ok, do that |
| 13:24.43 | Gwildor | now what? |
| 13:24.44 | Detox | ok local or network? |
| 13:24.47 | Gwildor | network |
| 13:25.03 | Detox | ok now url |
| 13:25.23 | Detox | uri sorry\ |
| 13:25.35 | Gwildor | /name_of_windows_box/printer_name |
| 13:25.37 | Detox | so put ip of laptop there? |
| 13:25.45 | Gwildor | OR, there SHOULD be a browse there |
| 13:25.55 | Gwildor | did you "share" the printer on the lappy? |
| 13:26.23 | Gwildor | but, "browse" would be best |
| 13:26.40 | Detox | working |
| 13:27.43 | Gwildor | working = printing? |
| 13:28.06 | Gwildor | HURRY UP!!!!!!! i need a smoke :P |
| 13:28.57 | Detox | nope |
| 13:29.05 | Detox | printer made noise then quit |
| 13:29.12 | Detox | will try again have a smoke |
| 13:29.24 | Detox | will let ya know when ya get back |
| 13:29.44 | Gwildor | okies... |
| 13:29.51 | Gwildor | hmm,, should have worked... |
| 13:29.55 | Gwildor | hehe, check for paper :P |
| 13:48.38 | Gwildor | detox any luck? |
| 13:48.48 | Detox | nope |
| 13:49.40 | Detox | it says it's ready but print jopbs will not go through |
| 13:53.24 | Gwildor | lappy still on?? |
| 13:53.29 | Gwildor | go check the printer on the lappy... |
| 13:53.35 | Detox | yup |
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| 13:53.44 | Elive_user43 | roxville, ping |
| 13:56.37 | Detox | ok starting over now says unable to locate host |
| 13:56.43 | Detox | win is up |
| 13:56.46 | Detox | printes to printer |
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| 13:57.04 | Detox | it is in the location settings |
| 13:57.34 | Detox | how to unpack a deb file? |
| 13:57.45 | Detox | all I can find is install command |
| 13:57.53 | akumulator | dpkg -x |
| 13:57.57 | akumulator | or use mc |
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| 13:58.07 | Detox | midnight commander? |
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| 13:58.25 | Detox | that will "see" inside? |
| 13:58.59 | Elive_user43 | apt, yes |
| 13:59.01 | apt | You don't say! |
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| 14:08.14 | Detox | >>Gwildor :>>>>>>> YAHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:08.46 | Detox | started over ,, was able to configure it to goto the print sever directly |
| 14:08.48 | Detox | works |
| 14:09.04 | Detox | had this prob last time ,, took me two days to get it to work |
| 14:09.21 | Detox | what a pain!!!!! |
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| 14:10.57 | Gwildor | lol |
| 14:10.59 | Gwildor | good good |
| 14:11.35 | Detox | wait? good it was a pain? or good it works? or good he finally will quit bugging me about it? |
| 14:11.46 | LinuxChick | lol |
| 14:11.50 | Detox | hahahaha |
| 14:11.59 | LinuxChick | prolly all three ;) |
| 14:12.05 | Gwildor | hehe |
| 14:12.12 | Gwildor | i plead the fifth |
| 14:12.14 | Gwildor | :P |
| 14:12.20 | Detox | I have configured many printers connected to my win pc and connected to my linux pc's fine |
| 14:12.24 | Detox | simple clicks |
| 14:12.42 | PrinceAMD | hey all |
| 14:12.49 | Gwildor | yeah, i was just saying my set-up is the same as yours... |
| 14:12.51 | LinuxChick | hey PrinceAMD |
| 14:12.54 | Detox | but this particular printer was not made for linux and brother made files after the fact for it |
| 14:12.56 | Gwildor | and the way id did it was easy |
| 14:12.58 | Detox | and the set up is a real pain |
| 14:13.10 | Detox | once I get ti working ,, it is rock solid |
| 14:13.14 | PrinceAMD | hey LinuxChick: |
| 14:13.15 | Gwildor | yeah, guess it probably makes a difference my printer is 5+yrs old |
| 14:13.16 | LinuxChick | long as it works |
| 14:13.35 | PrinceAMD | LinuxChick: how r u |
| 14:13.45 | LinuxChick | I'm good thx, you |
| 14:13.46 | LinuxChick | ? |
| 14:13.59 | Detox | but ,,,,,,,, setting this one up is a bugger ,, actually the tech folks at brother could not figure out how to get it to work with their own doc's |
| 14:14.13 | Detox | that's why it took 2 days to do it |
| 14:14.20 | PrinceAMD | i'm ok |
| 14:14.30 | PrinceAMD | i had a wonderful sleep :) |
| 14:14.47 | LinuxChick | thanks good |
| 14:15.28 | LinuxChick | mmmmm nice |
| 14:15.39 | Detox | the good news is this room........... the awesome folks who are brainiac's can plow through almost anything without popping a fuse or losing sight that the learners will learn if taught correctly |
| 14:15.46 | Detox | so THANK A BUNCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:16.27 | PrinceAMD | LinuxChick: did u dream anything lastnight? |
| 14:16.46 | LinuxChick | PrinceAMD, not that I remember |
| 14:16.53 | PrinceAMD | :( |
| 14:17.38 | PrinceAMD | LinuxChick: did yah cook this morning? |
| 14:17.50 | LinuxChick | cook, not really |
| 14:17.53 | LinuxChick | why? |
| 14:18.00 | Gwildor | wanna maek me some buscuits & gravy? |
| 14:18.08 | LinuxChick | lol |
| 14:18.20 | Gwildor | please? |
| 14:18.26 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 14:18.27 | LinuxChick | sure, brb |
| 14:20.07 | LinuxChick | lol |
| 14:20.30 | LinuxChick | enjoys |
| 14:20.33 | LinuxChick | enjoy* |
| 14:20.35 | pales_rider | LC..while you are fussin i could use some more tea please lol |
| 14:20.43 | LinuxChick | sure |
| 14:20.46 | pales_rider | ty |
| 14:20.48 | pales_rider | :) |
| 14:20.58 | Gwildor | :D |
| 14:21.04 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 14:22.06 | Detox | tea is good |
| 14:22.09 | Detox | good green tea |
| 14:22.11 | Detox | fresh |
| 14:22.24 | Gwildor | gota get the white tea....just pluck it |
| 14:22.42 | Detox | false advertising |
| 14:31.34 | PrinceAMD | hey is there any transulation program in linux |
| 14:31.39 | PrinceAMD | i really need one |
| 14:32.34 | Gwildor | .....idk.... |
| 14:32.47 | Gwildor | i would GUESS not....seeing as most projhects need translators.. |
| 14:32.51 | Gwildor | but,ive never looked.. |
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| 14:38.02 | PrinceAMD | ok |
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| 16:05.18 | i3d | apt: how are you |
| 16:05.18 | apt | i3d: pretty good. how about you? |
| 16:05.24 | i3d | ok |
| 16:05.30 | i3d | haven't seen you a while |
| 16:05.43 | i3d | apt: haven't seen you a while |
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| 16:36.52 | pr0t0 | *** #elive-dev You're banned from that channel |
| 16:36.54 | pr0t0 | mouahaha |
| 16:37.06 | pr0t0 | hi there |
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| 16:39.54 | roxville | hi pr0t0 |
| 16:40.26 | roxville | hi LinuxChick and damosu |
| 16:40.30 | Gwildor | o/ |
| 16:40.32 | LinuxChick | hi roxville |
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| 16:40.45 | roxville | you two looked really good coming in together :) |
| 16:40.49 | pr0t0 | 8\dfd |
| 16:40.51 | Gwildor | try now pr0t0 |
| 16:40.52 | pr0t0 | oups |
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| 17:59.19 | Elive_user43 | I am here! |
| 17:59.20 | Thanatermesis | LC, Elive_user43, |
| 17:59.21 | Elive_user43 | thanks |
| 17:59.27 | Elive_user43 | yes.. |
| 17:59.29 | Thanatermesis | "how i add icons eap's on my e17 menus" ? |
| 17:59.29 | LC | hi |
| 17:59.30 | Elive_user43 | how do we do it? |
| 17:59.36 | keyra | Thanatermesis: It is best to request an eap directly from Elive so it will be on the next releases http://thanatermesis.org/trac/wiki/ApplicationsMoreUsedList |
| 17:59.37 | Thanatermesis | "how i use the elive-skel system ?" |
| 17:59.44 | Elive_user43 | and app that it did not come with elive |
| 17:59.44 | keyra | Thanatermesis: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Elive-skel_System |
| 17:59.48 | Thanatermesis | thanks keyra :) |
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| 17:59.55 | keyra | Thanatermesis: youre welcome :) |
| 18:00.22 | Elive_user43 | so, you are saying that it's not possible on e17? |
| 18:00.30 | Elive_user43 | because I can do it easly on e16 |
| 18:00.31 | LC | so, I can't add an app to my menu myself, I hvae to request that bit be put in the next release?? |
| 18:00.41 | LC | it be* |
| 18:01.06 | Thanatermesis | is better to request the eap to the 1Āŗ link of keyra has show, you don't need to wait another version of Elive for have it, just a newest package on the repository... then you can use elive-skel for recover a Elive e17 conf with the new menu's entry and all... or copy the eap's manually |
| 18:01.23 | Thanatermesis | if you have the program installed, the eap (icon) are show in your menus, if not... no |
| 18:01.44 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user43, of course is posible, how are made those menus on Elive ? ;) |
| 18:01.54 | Elive_user43 | ok, I already installed the app |
| 18:01.58 | Thanatermesis | LC, well, you can, perfectly |
| 18:02.00 | Thanatermesis | but |
| 18:02.00 | Elive_user43 | I can run it from the terminal |
| 18:02.05 | LC | me too, several of them |
| 18:02.05 | Thanatermesis | if you request this eap on the site |
| 18:02.08 | LC | right |
| 18:02.15 | Thanatermesis | the next iso of Elive, has it included directly |
| 18:02.23 | Thanatermesis | then you don't need to add it again the next time |
| 18:02.29 | Thanatermesis | you, and all the users to want this application :) |
| 18:03.00 | Thanatermesis | btw... let me write a little stuff more on this site.... |
| 18:03.33 | Elive_user43 | ok, me an LC have not clue of what you guys are talking about |
| 18:03.53 | Elive_user43 | start from the beggining please |
| 18:04.01 | LC | is there docs on this? |
| 18:04.23 | LC | I don't have a problem with helping myself if I can find it |
| 18:04.27 | Elive_user43 | 1) I have an app that I love |
| 18:04.31 | Thanatermesis | docs for e17: www.get-e.org |
| 18:04.36 | Thanatermesis | you have it on your bookmarks ;) |
| 18:04.37 | Elive_user43 | 2) I installed via apt-get install |
| 18:05.02 | LC | I think I've been there, but I'll look again |
| 18:05.02 | Elive_user43 | 3) i can run it from the terminal |
| 18:05.11 | roxville | Elive_user43, 43 yes |
| 18:05.16 | roxville | run it from terminal |
| 18:05.20 | Elive_user43 | 4) I added to the e16 fine, no problem |
| 18:05.20 | roxville | and then... |
| 18:05.32 | Elive_user43 | how do I do the same thing with e17? |
| 18:05.40 | roxville | apt, eaps |
| 18:05.50 | roxville | crap... |
| 18:05.55 | LC | apt eaps ? |
| 18:05.58 | roxville | apt, make-eap |
| 18:06.00 | apt | methinks make-eap is http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html |
| 18:06.05 | roxville | lol |
| 18:06.10 | LC | lol |
| 18:06.22 | roxville | read that doc... it's a little tedious, but not hard :) |
| 18:06.31 | LC | ok |
| 18:06.32 | roxville | we have all gone through this tep... |
| 18:07.11 | roxville | LC, Elive_user43 you WILL need to have some icons installed |
| 18:07.26 | Elive_user43 | I don't mind, I can creat and icon |
| 18:07.27 | LC | ok, and I get icons from where? |
| 18:07.34 | Elive_user43 | I did it actually with gimp |
| 18:07.38 | roxville | hold on |
| 18:07.38 | LC | ok, guess from Elive_user43 |
| 18:07.39 | LC | lol |
| 18:08.11 | LC | ok |
| 18:08.19 | LC | lol |
| 18:08.22 | roxville | apt-get install icons-exquisite |
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| 18:08.30 | LC | ok ty |
| 18:08.40 | roxville | np :) |
| 18:09.13 | linuxnewbie | so rox, what do we do with that? |
| 18:09.19 | bentejuy | hello everyone! |
| 18:09.26 | keyra | bentejuy: hi |
| 18:09.34 | LC | roxville, that doc is prefectly fine, thanks! I'll play with this today |
| 18:10.44 | roxville | ok e17's icons are called aps |
| 18:10.51 | keyra | roxville: It is best to request an eap directly from Elive so it will be on the next releases http://thanatermesis.org/trac/wiki/ApplicationsMoreUsedList, but if you mean icons on the desktop, this is not on the plans of Elive, icons are shortcuts for inferior environments and his clones |
| 18:10.56 | roxville | they store both the executable and the icon |
| 18:11.13 | roxville | yes keyra thank you very much |
| 18:11.20 | keyra | roxville: :) |
| 18:11.48 | Thanatermesis | ok, page updated |
| 18:12.02 | roxville | this system IS about to get easier, but for now... we do it the old way :) |
| 18:12.11 | Thanatermesis | LC, linuxnewbie, make a look now : http://thanatermesis.org/trac/wiki/ApplicationsMoreUsedList |
| 18:12.28 | Thanatermesis | this page is free, you can edit it and correct my tarzanic english without any login, if you like :) |
| 18:14.24 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, can i freely murder keyra, without login ?? |
| 18:14.49 | roxville | LMAO |
| 18:15.23 | linuxnewbie | hey, hey don't touch keyra! |
| 18:17.15 | Thanatermesis | lol :) |
| 18:21.04 | LC | brb |
| 18:21.23 | linuxnewbie | that streamtuner rocks!! |
| 18:21.26 | linuxnewbie | it's very cool |
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| 18:21.58 | LC | yaaay :) |
| 18:22.07 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, you can record music from it also ;) |
| 18:22.07 | linuxnewbie | so!! |
| 18:22.15 | linuxnewbie | tell me, tell me LC.. |
| 18:22.19 | LC | lol |
| 18:22.19 | linuxnewbie | now way!! |
| 18:22.21 | linuxnewbie | really? |
| 18:22.27 | linuxnewbie | I'll try that now |
| 18:22.36 | LC | http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html linuxnewbie go there |
| 18:22.49 | LC | no Thanatermesis "she" has added xchat to the menu |
| 18:23.08 | LC | linuxnewbie, go to the link I pasted |
| 18:23.08 | Thanatermesis | LC, where i have say "he" ? |
| 18:23.09 | linuxnewbie | so, you were able to add to the e17 an icon |
| 18:23.16 | keyra | linuxnewbie: It is best to request an eap directly from Elive so it will be on the next releases http://thanatermesis.org/trac/wiki/ApplicationsMoreUsedList, but if you mean icons on the desktop, this is not on the plans of Elive, icons are shortcuts for inferior environments and his clones |
| 18:23.21 | Thanatermesis | but... xchat is on the menu... |
| 18:23.40 | LC | sorry Thanatermesis missread that, not my menu! |
| 18:23.59 | Thanatermesis | LC, linuxnewbie put your email on http://elivecd.org/gb/infomail and you are noticed this week about the next STABLE release of Elive ;) |
| 18:24.12 | LC | oh crap, sorry!!! yes it was ROTLMAO, that's ok, now I can add all the others |
| 18:24.25 | roxville | hehe |
| 18:24.26 | Thanatermesis | NOTICE: |
| 18:24.28 | LC | :P |
| 18:24.29 | linuxnewbie | you know what? the e17genmenu worked for me!! |
| 18:24.43 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.45 | Thanatermesis | NOW! |
| 18:24.46 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 18:25.08 | roxville | lol |
| 18:25.14 | roxville | ok, saved! |
| 18:25.24 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, yes, but you have now dis-organized menus with ugly icons and bad set's of his propieties.. (try to minimize applications and reload E, look if the icon exist) |
| 18:25.38 | linuxnewbie | no |
| 18:25.50 | linuxnewbie | everything works fine, now ugly icons or anything of that sort |
| 18:25.57 | linuxnewbie | elive rocks!! |
| 18:26.20 | LC | ok, now how do I delete that xchat menu entry? |
| 18:26.58 | Thanatermesis | entangle! |
| 18:27.06 | LC | ok |
| 18:27.13 | roxville | LC, in the menu or in ibar? (the launcher bar) |
| 18:27.13 | Thanatermesis | reboot time |
| 18:27.22 | LC | roxville, in the menu |
| 18:27.37 | roxville | oh... yeah, entangle |
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| 18:28.37 | roxville | LC, hmmm my entangle doesn't do that... |
| 18:28.47 | roxville | if yours does... you're in luck |
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| 18:30.00 | roxville | you'd have to go to .e/e/applications/menu/favorite |
| 18:30.07 | LC | ok |
| 18:30.10 | roxville | and edit the list by hand |
| 18:30.14 | roxville | with scite |
| 18:30.19 | LC | that I can handle |
| 18:30.24 | roxville | that's the name of the editor, scite |
| 18:30.26 | LC | I like to do it that way |
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| 18:30.29 | LC | yes, I know ;) |
| 18:30.30 | LC | ty |
| 18:30.33 | roxville | ok :) |
| 18:31.02 | Thanatermesis | LC, give me all your links to "how to create icons", i add it on the firefox of the next stable version of Elive.... |
| 18:31.11 | linuxnewbie | so Thanatermesis, you are not going to include evidence for the final release? |
| 18:31.21 | Thanatermesis | or if any person knows about this kind of links... |
| 18:31.29 | LC | Thanatermesis, only had that one link |
| 18:31.31 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, yes, its included |
| 18:31.41 | roxville | damn, where's the menu? |
| 18:31.43 | Thanatermesis | ok, give me it |
| 18:31.52 | linuxnewbie | ok.. |
| 18:31.54 | roxville | <roxville> you'd have to go to .e/e/applications/menu/favorite |
| 18:32.02 | roxville | i thought that was it, but... |
| 18:32.10 | LC | http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html |
| 18:32.33 | linuxnewbie | hey Thanatermesis, I was recording a readio, but how do I stop the recording? |
| 18:32.34 | Thanatermesis | ok... |
| 18:32.42 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, just control-c ;) |
| 18:32.47 | LC | well crap!! now when I try to open a term from the ibar, I get xchat!!! |
| 18:33.16 | LC | I don't have a term in my menu now |
| 18:33.16 | Thanatermesis | LC, this is why you don't use the icons original from Elive ;) lol |
| 18:33.30 | LC | yes I see that |
| 18:33.32 | LC | acccccccccck |
| 18:33.43 | LC | I just want a text menu I can edit by hand |
| 18:33.49 | Thanatermesis | with elive-skel system you recover all the e17 conf very easy ;) |
| 18:34.04 | Thanatermesis | text menu ? |
| 18:34.35 | LC | and the fact that the menu doesn't move itself into view if you click in the wrong part of the desktop is very annoying |
| 18:35.06 | LC | Thanatermesis, yes, a text file with the menu in it, so I can add or remove apps at will |
| 18:35.23 | Thanatermesis | LC, you can force to view it... "pushing" your desktop |
| 18:35.42 | Thanatermesis | remember, you are on enlightenment ;) |
| 18:35.54 | LC | uhuh, push it? |
| 18:36.03 | linuxnewbie | Thanatermesis, that's so freaking cool!! |
| 18:36.14 | linuxnewbie | I recorded readio with good quality |
| 18:36.15 | Thanatermesis | yes, open a menu in a wrong part of your desktop... then push your desktop |
| 18:36.23 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, yes, VERY good quality ;) |
| 18:36.34 | linuxnewbie | no, bugs, so simple |
| 18:36.36 | Thanatermesis | the commandline is streamripper |
| 18:36.37 | linuxnewbie | dang! |
| 18:36.37 | roxville | LC, ctrl+alt+insert |
| 18:36.41 | Thanatermesis | you can record any streaming radio |
| 18:36.46 | LC | Thanatermesis, got it |
| 18:36.51 | linuxnewbie | that's so freeking awesome |
| 18:36.55 | LC | but I need a term |
| 18:36.56 | LC | lol |
| 18:37.04 | roxville | <roxville> LC, ctrl+alt+insert |
| 18:37.21 | LC | ty!! |
| 18:37.30 | LC | sorry, musta missed that |
| 18:37.33 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, try: streamripper http://64.236.34.97:80/stream/1035 |
| 18:37.42 | Thanatermesis | is what you have on elive-essence ;) |
| 18:37.55 | Thanatermesis | LC, control + alt + E |
| 18:38.03 | Thanatermesis | more fast than a icon ;) |
| 18:38.06 | Thanatermesis | apt, icons |
| 18:38.10 | apt | i heard icons is shortcuts for inferior environments and his clones. Hey! i use Enlightenment, do you have think to 'apt is a lamer' or what ? |
| 18:38.20 | linuxnewbie | hey Thanatermesis, what do you think about Gentoo claiming that what the use is better than debian? |
| 18:38.31 | linuxnewbie | I forgot the name |
| 18:39.23 | Thanatermesis | lol, do you want a distro-war ? |
| 18:39.25 | Thanatermesis | apt, distro war |
| 18:39.27 | apt | rumour has it, distro war is saying debian is better than knoppix, even though it obviously isnt. |
| 18:39.49 | linuxnewbie | no, I am just wodering.. |
| 18:40.05 | linuxnewbie | I tryed many and I stick with elive |
| 18:40.18 | linuxnewbie | I installed elive in both machine at work today |
| 18:40.34 | Thanatermesis | this only decides you.... you look diferents distros and you use what you like more :) |
| 18:40.47 | Thanatermesis | every distro has his pro and cons |
| 18:41.11 | linuxnewbie | but I really like elive, I want everything to work well |
| 18:41.39 | linuxnewbie | I tried freespire and it's very stable but it remindsme a lot of MS# Win? |
| 18:41.47 | linuxnewbie | I am tyred of it |
| 18:41.51 | i3d | Hi Thanatermesis how are you |
| 18:41.53 | linuxnewbie | I meand, the feeling.. |
| 18:42.18 | linuxnewbie | I like how elive feels.. |
| 18:42.48 | linuxnewbie | I guess I talked to much, everybod is quite...:-( |
| 18:42.49 | Thanatermesis | i3d, good :) working on the stable release :) |
| 18:43.09 | Thanatermesis | <linuxnewbie> but I really like elive, I want everything to work well |
| 18:43.11 | i3d | cool. I meant to ask you if you have any updates on the rsync server |
| 18:43.19 | Thanatermesis | use the next stable version ;) is for this week :) |
| 18:43.46 | i3d | Thanatermesis: good, finally we got 0.5 stable |
| 18:43.56 | Thanatermesis | no linuxnewbie, we still here :) working... but here |
| 18:44.10 | Thanatermesis | i3d, yes, and with ATI working again ;) |
| 18:44.14 | roxville | <linuxnewbie> I like how elive feels.. <- so do i! |
| 18:44.21 | i3d | nice! |
| 18:44.22 | linuxnewbie | on thing Thanatermesis, the with the current stable version, my printer and the screen work great..but not my scanner. |
| 18:44.33 | linuxnewbie | with the betas version I've been trying |
| 18:44.52 | linuxnewbie | my scanner works,but not the printer and the screen is a little slow? |
| 18:44.58 | Thanatermesis | i3d, what you think about XFS / ReiserFS about his stability and guarantee of data...and his fragmentation ? |
| 18:44.59 | roxville | and... we get quiet sometimes... but that's ok... we may be fighting the eap dragon! :D |
| 18:45.09 | Thanatermesis | (reiserfs 3*, of course) |
| 18:45.10 | linuxnewbie | it looks like is a problem with the kernel |
| 18:45.37 | i3d | Thanatermesis: not use XFS at all, can't speak of that but use reiserfs a lot (my home is always reiserfs) |
| 18:45.41 | linuxnewbie | because if I use the current stable version and I upgrade the kernal, my printer stop working. |
| 18:45.53 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, your scanner is usb or LP ? do you have found another before version (maybe 0.4*) to works ? |
| 18:45.58 | linuxnewbie | USB |
| 18:46.02 | i3d | v3 is very stable and solid. v4 is quite new and support huge filesystem |
| 18:46.20 | linuxnewbie | with this beta version 3.4 I think, it works fine |
| 18:46.30 | linuxnewbie | but my printer does not work, |
| 18:46.36 | Thanatermesis | only upgrading the kernel has stop to work the kernel ? mmmh... curious... |
| 18:46.41 | linuxnewbie | with the stable version, the printer works great, but the scanner does not |
| 18:46.46 | Thanatermesis | btw, for the next' beta's, new kernel :) |
| 18:46.54 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, try to upgrade the package pciutils |
| 18:47.15 | linuxnewbie | actually the only distros the my printer accepts well is elive current stable version |
| 18:47.22 | LC | roxville, figure out where I can edit by hand yet? |
| 18:48.30 | linuxnewbie | For your information Thanatermesis, there are some web sites with JAVA that Firefox can't handle, but it can with freespire... |
| 18:48.33 | i3d | Thanatermesis: how about the rsync server? |
| 18:49.14 | i3d | linuxnewbie: that should be adjustable |
| 18:49.26 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, only the last version of Elive (the stable one), has removed the package java by default, because size needed on the iso.. |
| 18:49.32 | Thanatermesis | but you can install it with "apt-get install java" |
| 18:49.44 | linuxnewbie | ok |
| 18:49.49 | linuxnewbie | I try that |
| 18:49.50 | Thanatermesis | btw, in the before versions of the beta's of Elive, the java package not are very good installed |
| 18:50.16 | Thanatermesis | are removed sometimes by the "default java application" (alternatives system) with some upgrades |
| 18:50.40 | Thanatermesis | but actually, hte pacakge of java works very good using this system and dont are replaced with your upgrades :) |
| 18:51.02 | Thanatermesis | <linuxnewbie> actually the only distros the my printer accepts well is elive current stable version |
| 18:51.02 | linuxnewbie | one thing I love of elive is that the application that comes with it, work!!! so simple as that.. ' |
| 18:51.04 | Thanatermesis | no beta's ? |
| 18:51.23 | Thanatermesis | <i3d> Thanatermesis: how about the rsync server? |
| 18:51.27 | linuxnewbie | I tried many distros that comes with a lot of app that won't run :-S |
| 18:51.31 | roxville | <LC> roxville, figure out where I can edit by hand yet? <- no... |
| 18:51.35 | Thanatermesis | not news for now :S it stills on my TODO... too much work this last time |
| 18:51.38 | roxville | it's in that dir somewhere |
| 18:51.43 | Thanatermesis | btw, i need to rebuild all the repository |
| 18:51.47 | i3d | Thanatermesis: ok thanks |
| 18:51.49 | linuxnewbie | np Thanatermesis , the beta's dont like the printer |
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| 18:51.51 | LC | roxville, ok |
| 18:51.57 | Thanatermesis | for prepaire it for work in a diferent system |
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| 18:52.10 | Thanatermesis | (how debian does, with the parts stable/testing/unstable) |
| 18:52.29 | linuxnewbie | in the betas, when I try to print, it slows down the whole system, I can to anything |
| 18:52.33 | linuxnewbie | until I cancell! |
| 18:52.35 | roxville | LC, you know how to open the hidden dirs with evidence? (the file manager) |
| 18:52.41 | LC | roxville, think I have it |
| 18:52.42 | roxville | click on .files |
| 18:52.50 | roxville | ok, cool |
| 18:53.03 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, HP ? |
| 18:53.06 | LC | I have my own sub category in the menu now |
| 18:53.11 | linuxnewbie | it will print from firefox but It will take forever to print the google front page (can you imagine something else/) |
| 18:53.13 | linuxnewbie | no, is Epson |
| 18:53.21 | linuxnewbie | BUT, with the stable version |
| 18:53.25 | roxville | LC, i installed a test version of e17 last night... it's different, so i have almost no menu at all now |
| 18:53.28 | linuxnewbie | is even faster the windows@ |
| 18:53.40 | LC | ah! ic roxville |
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| 18:53.59 | roxville | and the dirs have changed a little |
| 18:54.15 | linuxnewbie | The stable versin detects my printer immeditelly and prints test page, and PDF from xpdf viewe |
| 18:54.22 | linuxnewbie | so does not the betas.. |
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| 18:54.52 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, i have ear the another day a similar thing from a user about a epson printer... |
| 18:55.15 | linuxnewbie | Thanatermesis, let me ask you this, it might sound very stupid |
| 18:55.19 | Detox | when is the new beta coming? |
| 18:55.27 | linuxnewbie | but if I run the live CD of the stable verson |
| 18:55.36 | linuxnewbie | and copy all the CUPS files |
| 18:55.36 | Thanatermesis | Detox, the new beta is on internet now |
| 18:55.51 | Detox | ok didnt see it |
| 18:55.58 | linuxnewbie | and then past them in the same directories in the betas |
| 18:55.59 | Detox | will check again |
| 18:56.07 | Detox | thanks |
| 18:56.13 | linuxnewbie | do you think is a good idea, or it will mess up the system? |
| 18:56.50 | roxville | Detox, it's on ibiblio for sure |
| 18:56.57 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, well... mess up your system no... with this no, and you can reinstall pacakges also... |
| 18:57.07 | linuxnewbie | ok |
| 18:57.08 | Thanatermesis | btw, if you try it and it works, tell me |
| 18:57.17 | linuxnewbie | i will try that,it's going to be a lot of work |
| 18:57.33 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, http://localhost:631 |
| 18:57.46 | linuxnewbie | but for some reason the stable version loves my printer, and it integrates it in the system so I can print from any app. |
| 18:58.08 | linuxnewbie | so I can't with the betas.. |
| 18:58.58 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, is strange... and better if we solve the problem before to release of the stable version |
| 18:59.13 | linuxnewbie | It messed up the system the other day trying to print and I did somthing really weird, the mouse pinter turned into a cross and it will only move around the minimized window in the e16 and it wont' get out!! |
| 18:59.32 | linuxnewbie | pointer! |
| 18:59.50 | linuxnewbie | I have to shout down the computer manually |
| 19:00.02 | linuxnewbie | I won't do anything else, but that's only when I try to print. |
| 19:00.20 | linuxnewbie | is there a way you can use the CUPS files from the stable version? |
| 19:00.25 | Thanatermesis | well... sounds a bug on the rpinter driver |
| 19:00.28 | Thanatermesis | or the kernel... |
| 19:00.32 | linuxnewbie | or I am talkin sensless. |
| 19:00.33 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, try to install another kernel |
| 19:00.38 | Thanatermesis | and look what happes |
| 19:00.40 | Thanatermesis | happens |
| 19:00.40 | linuxnewbie | for me is the kernel |
| 19:00.48 | Thanatermesis | try it and we are sure :) |
| 19:01.03 | Thanatermesis | wait... |
| 19:01.05 | linuxnewbie | so, the 2.12 works, but the 2.15 doesn't |
| 19:01.16 | Thanatermesis | mmh |
| 19:01.22 | Thanatermesis | you are on a 0.4.2 upgraded then ? |
| 19:01.39 | linuxnewbie | the latest, |
| 19:01.49 | Thanatermesis | a beta of 0.5 ? |
| 19:01.59 | Thanatermesis | well, try to install this package linux-image-2.6.16-2-686 |
| 19:02.01 | linuxnewbie | correct, |
| 19:02.05 | linuxnewbie | 0.5.3.4 |
| 19:02.11 | Thanatermesis | and maybe you need to edit your grub menu for boot it |
| 19:02.20 | linuxnewbie | ok' |
| 19:02.25 | linuxnewbie | I know how to do that.. |
| 19:02.36 | linuxnewbie | so I install the image with aptitude? |
| 19:02.52 | Thanatermesis | perfect then :) |
| 19:02.56 | linuxnewbie | aptitude install linux-image-2........ |
| 19:02.57 | Thanatermesis | yes, any apt tool |
| 19:03.02 | linuxnewbie | ok |
| 19:03.22 | linuxnewbie | I'll try and I tell you.. |
| 19:03.55 | linuxnewbie | because I have to tell you that if it does not work, I will stick with the future old stable version |
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| 19:04.14 | linuxnewbie | because except the scanner (not a big deal) everything works fine |
| 19:04.22 | Thanatermesis | of course, and fix the problem if is psoible for the very comming soon next stable :) |
| 19:05.05 | Thanatermesis | i look all the packages of the scanner stuff also here... |
| 19:05.06 | Gwildor | maybe a problem with debain etch, and not elive? |
| 19:05.14 | Thanatermesis | if you know anything about the scanner also, tell me |
| 19:05.19 | Thanatermesis | btw, try it also with the new kenrel ;) |
| 19:05.39 | Thanatermesis | Gwildor, maybe the kernel of Elive, maybe a pacakge from debian... we don't know for now :) |
| 19:05.40 | linuxnewbie | the scanner with 2.15 works great |
| 19:05.49 | linuxnewbie | and it does not work with 2.12 |
| 19:05.55 | Thanatermesis | oh... perfect then :) |
| 19:06.03 | Thanatermesis | (new versions = owrks) |
| 19:06.03 | linuxnewbie | even after intalling the lib-xane extras. |
| 19:06.04 | Gwildor | now we do :P |
| 19:06.07 | linuxnewbie | correct |
| 19:06.13 | linuxnewbie | new version works good.. |
| 19:06.28 | linuxnewbie | but I use more my printer than the scanner, and that's what doesn't work in the new version |
| 19:07.30 | linuxnewbie | installed, I am going to try, I'd be back |
| 19:08.30 | roxville | e> ok, time to go get wife from work, bbl |
| 19:08.40 | i3d | Thanatermesis: recently I am playing with the shutdown process and be successfully shrink down the shutdown time |
| 19:09.03 | i3d | now my elive can shutdown just in several seconds |
| 19:09.14 | Thanatermesis | apt, x en es shrink |
| 19:09.39 | Thanatermesis | hehe, well, not bad idea to force a liveCD to shtudown ;) |
| 19:09.54 | Detox | ok I got another dumb questios cause I cannot r4emember how I did it before ,,,,,,,\ |
| 19:10.24 | i3d | Thanatermesis: basically, pretty much just need sendsigns there and all other shutdown processes are not necessary for livecd |
| 19:10.32 | Detox | DL's edj files for backgrounds ,, put tehm in the .e/e/... folder as e-org said ,, now when i try to use them i cannot find them |
| 19:10.34 | Thanatermesis | i3d, a thing in my TODO since long time... eject the cdrom before to shutdown totally... if you make a look to this is ok :) |
| 19:11.03 | Thanatermesis | yeah, umount -a + SAK :) |
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| 19:11.09 | linuxnewbie | ok! |
| 19:11.11 | Thanatermesis | well... magic keys of B |
| 19:11.14 | linuxnewbie | I am back with 2.16 |
| 19:11.27 | linuxnewbie | scanner: perfect!! |
| 19:11.43 | Thanatermesis | any person know's / has HP printers ? |
| 19:11.50 | linuxnewbie | I do |
| 19:11.58 | linuxnewbie | I have three printers |
| 19:12.05 | Thanatermesis | do you know how to works the hpoj "driver" ? |
| 19:12.24 | i3d | Thanatermesis: ok ya, when you have all the open processes down and you can safely umount and eject the cd |
| 19:12.35 | Thanatermesis | because i have removed it for now... i don't like to are another process in the boot if the user don't need it... the problem is when the user need it lol |
| 19:12.36 | linuxnewbie | hmm, no, I never had any problem wiht my hplaser |
| 19:12.43 | linuxnewbie | it's a laser, all are the same |
| 19:12.46 | linuxnewbie | very simple driver |
| 19:13.08 | Thanatermesis | i3d, well, send me your changes if you like, i make a look but... for 0.6 |
| 19:13.19 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, i have HP laserjet 4100 |
| 19:13.23 | Gwildor | netowrked though.. |
| 19:13.36 | Thanatermesis | Gwildor, can you posible to try if works in a recent version of Elive ? |
| 19:13.36 | i3d | Thanatermesis: take a look this when you have time. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teardown |
| 19:14.00 | i3d | Thanatermesis: very simliar to my idea.. just they put it into more precisely and fine tune |
| 19:14.39 | Thanatermesis | i3d, what you have made is just a init script to works on the shutdown mode ? |
| 19:14.40 | Thanatermesis | on deliver ? |
| 19:14.51 | linuxnewbie | I did not print a test page my Epson.. :-s not a good sing, but...I did not slow down the system as before |
| 19:15.20 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, do you have a liveCD of 0.4.2 ? |
| 19:15.34 | i3d | Thanatermesis: I simply purge the unnecessary symlinks from rc0 and rc6 |
| 19:15.35 | linuxnewbie | I think I do.. |
| 19:15.36 | linuxnewbie | why? |
| 19:15.46 | linuxnewbie | is it 2 betas ago? |
| 19:16.07 | linuxnewbie | or is the stable version? |
| 19:16.21 | i3d | Thanatermesis: one of the startup script is also unnecessary... I think its called removing ssh from startup, something. |
| 19:16.25 | Thanatermesis | i3d, mmh.. not bad... i have one script to remove symlinks (ssh for example), can you show me your list ? i can add it for the stable ;) |
| 19:16.40 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, yes, stable version |
| 19:16.50 | linuxnewbie | yes I do |
| 19:16.56 | linuxnewbie | I treasure that version |
| 19:16.58 | i3d | Thanatermesis: that's my point, there is no need for a script to fork a subshell and remove all the symlinks |
| 19:17.36 | linuxnewbie | Ok, I sent to print form Firefox and it's doing it fast! |
| 19:17.40 | i3d | you simply should just chroot to the build env and update-rc.d to remove unnecessary symlinks |
| 19:17.50 | linuxnewbie | so, it defenately works better than before |
| 19:17.54 | linuxnewbie | let me try a PDF |
| 19:18.06 | Thanatermesis | i3d, but those links are from the "elive system", no on deliver... then is not posible to remove from the main system (of course), is needed to made it from deliver to make it on the liveCD mode |
| 19:18.37 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, your printer works with this kernel on Elive 0.5 then ? |
| 19:19.14 | linuxnewbie | yes, it's working with the kernel 2.16 althought it did not print the test page, let me try a pdf.. |
| 19:19.15 | Detox | Thana ,,, trying to use edj file from e-org ... put them into the .e/e/ ... folder ,, now i cannot find tehm using elpanel |
| 19:19.18 | i3d | Thanatermesis: you should be able to chroot to the main system and do that |
| 19:19.38 | linuxnewbie | it works fast from firefox and it did not mess up or slow down the sytem |
| 19:19.43 | Thanatermesis | i3d, but.. i don't want to make this on the main system |
| 19:19.49 | Thanatermesis | just on the liveCD mode |
| 19:19.52 | linuxnewbie | so I begg you to includ this in the new release!!! |
| 19:19.54 | linuxnewbie | :) |
| 19:20.10 | Thanatermesis | Detox, put it on your home |
| 19:20.14 | Thanatermesis | "just" |
| 19:20.26 | Detox | ok ,,, then use elpanel to use tehm? |
| 19:20.28 | i3d | Thanatermesis: well if you don't want to touch the main system, then yes, you have to do it from deliver |
| 19:20.32 | Detox | by add new background? |
| 19:20.45 | i3d | that a script to remove those links can't be avoid |
| 19:21.02 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, good then! well, then just don't works good for this kernel... we need to wait to the next version of Elive then for have it working good with a new kernel then |
| 19:21.07 | Thanatermesis | or... you can install the next Elive kernel |
| 19:21.30 | Thanatermesis | i3d, yeah, Elive is more a distro than a liveCD ;) |
| 19:21.35 | Thanatermesis | actually is |
| 19:21.41 | Thanatermesis | on 0.1 is just a liveCD |
| 19:21.46 | linuxnewbie | so, you say that the new stable verson won't have this kernel you just have me installed? |
| 19:21.53 | Thanatermesis | on 0.3 is a little more than a liveCD installable... |
| 19:21.58 | Thanatermesis | but now is more a distro than a liveCD |
| 19:22.21 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, yeah, of course, you can do it |
| 19:22.22 | Thanatermesis | but |
| 19:22.33 | Thanatermesis | you don't have then all the extra drivers to Elive includes on his kernel |
| 19:22.38 | Thanatermesis | how nvidia/ati/wifi... |
| 19:22.48 | Thanatermesis | but im sure to you know how to build any driver of you want ;) |
| 19:22.49 | i3d | Thanatermesis: yes understand, so you want to maintain the sanity of a distro. that makes sense to me.. and probably better for the later installer cause there will be no need to adjust the bootup scripts |
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| 19:23.59 | Thanatermesis | keyra, how i install a special driver on my Elive system ? :) |
| 19:24.07 | keyra | Thanatermesis: compile a driver... check http://thanatermesis.org/trac/wiki/HowtoInstallKernel and http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff |
| 19:24.45 | i3d | Thanatermesis: but some of the tweaks can be permenantly removed no matter is in a liveCD env or a local system. Those are just not necessary on the shutdown list at all |
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| 19:25.23 | Thanatermesis | i3d, well, both way's are posibles... but yes, is needed to maintain sanity, including it on a deliver script, just a remove stuff is not really a slow thing (after all the lot of scripts with sed, awk, grep, cat...) and all the things to has, is not very big things... |
| 19:25.39 | linuxnewbie | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.49 | linuxnewbie | but, we are a step closer :) |
| 19:25.50 | i3d | Thanatermesis: ya, true. |
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| 19:26.12 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, pdf's...from what application ? |
| 19:26.14 | i3d | using deliver to control it isn't a bad idea |
| 19:26.59 | linuxnewbie | xpdf.. |
| 19:27.09 | linuxnewbie | and it does print with the stable version. |
| 19:27.14 | Thanatermesis | i3d, dss has more layers of modules... but i want to use just 2 |
| 19:27.22 | Thanatermesis | 1) the main system, Elive system |
| 19:27.39 | Thanatermesis | 2) who diferences the Elive system to the livecd mode |
| 19:27.47 | Thanatermesis | more than thsi is not necessary IMHO |
| 19:28.11 | Thanatermesis | imho, can just slow the system |
| 19:28.26 | i3d | Thanatermesis: thats fine. normally, 2 is enough. it makes sense if you need more desktop envs such as gnome, kde, xfce, but we only enlightenment and the base, that's easier to manage |
| 19:28.48 | linuxnewbie | ok guys, that's good for today, thanks a lot for your help and Thanatermesis, a pleasure like always, viva Espana! |
| 19:28.59 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, strace -o /tmp/strace.log xpdf yourdocument.pdf |
| 19:29.02 | linuxnewbie | good bye |
| 19:29.02 | Thanatermesis | print it |
| 19:29.06 | Thanatermesis | and send me the file |
| 19:29.22 | linuxnewbie | ok, let me try |
| 19:29.34 | i3d | Thanatermesis: you know, I will try to play with using your script in deliver to control removing the unncessary symlinks on-fly and see how it goes |
| 19:30.14 | Thanatermesis | i3d, on Elive exist one, is very simple... it removes just the ssh one |
| 19:30.17 | i3d | and if it works well, I will send you the list of symlinks that you can safely removed |
| 19:30.39 | i3d | Thanatermesis: I thought more than that... apache is there too |
| 19:31.06 | i3d | Thanatermesis: the current one just avoid to startup the ssh service but there are more to play with for sure |
| 19:31.22 | Thanatermesis | hum... apache... |
| 19:31.34 | Thanatermesis | im thinkin about remove it... |
| 19:31.38 | Thanatermesis | yes, i remove it |
| 19:31.44 | i3d | ok |
| 19:31.46 | Thanatermesis | the user don't need apache except if knows it |
| 19:31.53 | Thanatermesis | and if wants it, has internet for install it :) |
| 19:32.01 | i3d | ya, its not need to have apache up on a liveCD |
| 19:32.10 | Thanatermesis | ops... is not here... |
| 19:32.18 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 19:32.22 | Thanatermesis | i have removed it before :) |
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| 19:32.52 | linuxnewbie | ooh! Thanatermesis, problems.. try this web site, and right click on the pdf icon to download it and it will shout down firefox http://www.planetpdf.com/ebookarticle.asp?ContentID=aesop%5Fs%5Ffables&gid=6127 |
| 19:33.49 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, yes, is a bug found on this last beta of Elive |
| 19:34.02 | Thanatermesis | the problem is to the developer want's to make too much features on Elive everytime :) |
| 19:34.12 | Thanatermesis | more features = more posible bugs |
| 19:34.15 | Thanatermesis | but is actually solved |
| 19:34.24 | Thanatermesis | you can solve it also launching audio-manager and select "alsa" |
| 19:36.00 | linuxnewbie | :)) |
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| 19:41.51 | Thanatermesis | linuxnewbie, send me the strace stuff to http://thanatermesis.org/upload |
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| 20:04.18 | i3d | Thanatermesis: I made the necessary updates on deliver and will run it tonight from vmware, will let you know later |
| 20:04.44 | Thanatermesis | i3d, can you pastebin me the lines to remove ? |
| 20:04.54 | i3d | Thanatermesis: sure |
| 20:05.16 | Thanatermesis | thx |
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| 20:11.08 | i3d | Thanatermesis: give me 1 min to tweak a bit more |
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| 20:17.47 | Thanatermesis | np |
| 20:21.41 | i3d | Thanatermesis: what pastebin are you using... the pastebin.com is acting up on me |
| 20:21.52 | Thanatermesis | yeah, is broken |
| 20:22.01 | Thanatermesis | http://paste.debian.net :) |
| 20:22.45 | i3d | http://paste.debian.net/12434 |
| 20:24.25 | Thanatermesis | mmh, what about the umount thing ? |
| 20:24.32 | Thanatermesis | (umount hd's before to reobot) |
| 20:24.38 | i3d | theoriodically, there are only two type of scripts should be in the shutdown or reboot runlevel, 1) it needs to write some settings back. 2), it needs to wait for kernel interrupts and gracefully die. other than that, all can be handled by sendsigns |
| 20:25.53 | i3d | ya, umount scripts should still be there |
| 20:26.20 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... let me try a thing... |
| 20:26.24 | i3d | i3d: even though at some point, its not very useful for a liveCD if the liveCD doesn't mount the local filesystems |
| 20:28.12 | bodha | Thanatermesis, a fast pastbin ; http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 20:29.09 | Thanatermesis | bodha, i have look a strange thing the last time to i have tried and this is why i have turned to paste.debian.net... but yes, is better |
| 20:29.19 | Thanatermesis | than pastebin.com |
| 20:29.28 | Thanatermesis | i like the debian one because save a cookie with your name :) |
| 20:29.30 | bodha | yes |
| 20:29.32 | Thanatermesis | not need to type it everytime ;) |
| 20:29.42 | bodha | this is goog |
| 20:31.16 | i3d | Thanatermesis: some of the bootup scripts you may not have. you can ignore them |
| 20:31.29 | Detox | Thana ,,,, still cannot get edj files to recognize as background / wall paper ,,, any suggestions? |
| 20:32.10 | Thanatermesis | Detox, what version of Elive ? |
| 20:32.17 | Detox | new beta 3-4 |
| 20:32.56 | Detox | I did it once with 4-2 ,, but reading the docs ,, it jsut does not see them |
| 20:33.00 | Detox | today |
| 20:33.56 | Thanatermesis | i3d, what you think about this ? |
| 20:33.59 | Thanatermesis | echo -e "#!/bin/bash\numount -a\neject /dev/cdrom\neject /dev/cdrw\neject /dev/d |
| 20:34.00 | Thanatermesis | vd\neject /dev/dvdrw" > /etc/rc{0,6}.d/K95theend |
| 20:34.00 | Thanatermesis | chmod +x /etc/rc{0,6}.d/K95theend |
| 20:35.19 | roxville | i3d, this theme to your taste? http://roxville.no-ip.org/e107_plugins/autogallery/autogallery.php?show=ibm-elive%20pics%2Fe17-darkness-screenie.jpg |
| 20:37.17 | Detox | cool |
| 20:37.38 | Thanatermesis | this theme remembers me the lucax one... |
| 20:37.39 | roxville | yeah |
| 20:37.52 | Detox | roxville ,, can you meet me in elive-unstable? |
| 20:37.53 | roxville | it's so dark that i can't see the friggin time! |
| 20:38.01 | roxville | sure |
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| 20:40.14 | i3d | Thanatermesis: why you need that given there is already umount script under 0 and 6 |
| 20:40.22 | i3d | roxville: let me take a look |
| 20:41.21 | i3d | roxville: ya that looks very cool |
| 20:41.33 | Thanatermesis | i3d, for if exist the posibility to a FS not are umounted ;) |
| 20:41.37 | roxville | i would need an LCD screen with a black frame, total darkness and a backlit keyboard to use this theme |
| 20:41.48 | Thanatermesis | i have ear one time a user to say to his windows boots same to a "not closed properly" |
| 20:41.53 | Thanatermesis | but i don't know very about this |
| 20:42.03 | Thanatermesis | maybe he has rebooted forcely his Elive system |
| 20:42.11 | Thanatermesis | with the windows partition mounted |
| 20:42.16 | Thanatermesis | ntfs is very crappy |
| 20:43.05 | i3d | Thanatermesis: hmm... could be |
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| 20:43.22 | Thanatermesis | i3d, well, my main interest is more for the eject than the umount... |
| 20:43.27 | Thanatermesis | keyra, what you think about ntfs ? |
| 20:43.50 | i3d | Thanatermesis: you can just simply put eject before the halt command in the halt script |
| 20:44.00 | i3d | Thanatermesis: I thought I will test that |
| 20:44.09 | Thanatermesis | keyra, yes... better to not think about it... |
| 20:44.16 | keyra | Thanatermesis: :) |
| 20:44.20 | Thanatermesis | LOL |
| 20:45.25 | Thanatermesis | i3d, on the init.d one ? |
| 20:45.32 | i3d | Thanatermesis: ya |
| 20:45.51 | i3d | the last step is to halt the system and before that you pop the cd out |
| 20:46.07 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 20:46.23 | i3d | also you probably don't want to put it under 6 since if the user just want to reboot the system, pop up the cd isn't necessary |
| 20:46.45 | Thanatermesis | not looks hard to implement... |
| 20:46.55 | i3d | pop the cd only when the user means to shutdown |
| 20:46.55 | Thanatermesis | let me try it... |
| 20:47.51 | Detox | ok ,,, fstab,,, floppy should be in fstab right? |
| 20:48.33 | i3d | but anyway, that's just my personal opinion, if you still think that the cd has to pop up no matter shutdown or reboot, then you can put it under 0 and 6 |
| 20:50.02 | Thanatermesis | sed "s,halt -d -f -i \$poweroff \$hddown,eject /dev/cdrom\n\teject /dev/dvd\n\thalt -d -f -i \$poweroff \$hddown,g" /etc/init.d/halt |
| 20:50.07 | Thanatermesis | well, this looks to are correct |
| 20:52.22 | i3d | ya seems like.. I only have one device, so simply just eject works for me |
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| 20:53.04 | Elive_user | tssooma |
| 20:53.23 | Thanatermesis | udev set those correct names, i think to only cdrom is sufficient but well... not bad to add more :) |
| 20:53.28 | Thanatermesis | let me try if works.. |
| 20:54.37 | i3d | ya ok |
| 20:58.55 | Thanatermesis | hum... not has eject here :/ |
| 21:02.02 | i3d | Thanatermesis: what's the error or what happened when halt? |
| 21:02.35 | Thanatermesis | well, i don't have look anything... just to halt without eject the cdrom... |
| 21:02.47 | Thanatermesis | let me try to replace this line by a "bash" command :) |
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| 21:09.08 | Thanatermesis | aha... device is busy... let me check... |
| 21:09.47 | Thanatermesis | well... the device is busy... |
| 21:10.09 | Thanatermesis | good :) |
| 21:10.12 | Thanatermesis | umount -l ;) |
| 21:10.22 | Thanatermesis | then... |
| 21:10.49 | Thanatermesis | sed -i "s,halt -d -f -i \$poweroff \$hddown,umount -l /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd\n\teject /dev/cdrom\n\teject /dev/dvd\n\thalt -d -f -i \$poweroff \$hddown,g" /etc/init.d/halt 2>/dev/null 1>/dev/null |
| 21:10.57 | Thanatermesis | this looks sufficient |
| 21:11.02 | Thanatermesis | let me try it on a real machine... |
| 21:12.36 | i3d | ah.. ok |
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| 21:32.04 | pale_horse | what kernel is in the beta 3.4 ? |
| 21:32.23 | Thanatermesis | perfect, eject the cd, i3d :) |
| 21:32.26 | Detox | hey pale horse ,, how ya be? havent seen you in a long time |
| 21:32.31 | Thanatermesis | pale_horse, 2.6.15 |
| 21:32.44 | pale_horse | hi detox |
| 21:32.50 | pale_horse | thanks Thana |
| 21:32.57 | Detox | good to see ya |
| 21:33.22 | pale_horse | I'll have to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.17.5 at least for wlan support in my lappy |
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| 21:34.03 | Elive_user | tssooma |
| 21:34.04 | i3d | Thanatermesis: here we go |
| 21:35.28 | i3d | Thanatermesis: another thing is when you install to the local system, you don't need this anymore, so you might need to ad to the installer too |
| 21:36.23 | Thanatermesis | i3d, since is on deliver you don't need ot worry ;) |
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| 21:36.37 | Thanatermesis | the installer DON'T install the system of you are running on the liveCD |
| 21:36.50 | Thanatermesis | it installs the static and RO image of the Elive system |
| 21:37.03 | i3d | Thanatermesis: ok goo |
| 21:37.04 | i3d | good |
| 21:37.16 | Thanatermesis | this is why i say all the time to its a CLEAN install and nothing similar to a crappy livecd installation ;) |
| 21:38.17 | i3d | Thanatermesis: yep |
| 21:38.36 | i3d | Thanatermesis: you just got one small upgrade |
| 21:39.50 | Detox | oki doki folks ,,, time to go home ,, thanks for the help ,, chat later tonight! |
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| 21:46.36 | Think | Hi all |
| 21:46.49 | Think | can someone help me out please |
| 21:47.50 | Think | anyone here |
| 21:47.54 | i3d | Think: what happen? |
| 21:48.02 | Think | hi |
| 21:48.14 | Think | i have problem with setting my server |
| 21:48.20 | i3d | ok |
| 21:48.23 | Think | apach |
| 21:48.42 | Think | i don't now how to bind it to my ip adress |
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| 21:49.04 | i3d | Think: you need to edit the httpd.conf file |
| 21:49.05 | Think | or do i need a domain to make it work on the internet |
| 21:49.34 | Think | where can i find it the file , linuxnoob |
| 21:49.44 | i3d | Think: yes you need it run as daemon |
| 21:49.59 | i3d | Think: /etc/apache/httpd.conf |
| 21:50.12 | Think | ok |
| 21:50.17 | Think | wait 2sec |
| 21:51.39 | Think | i got the file open and what do i need to do |
| 21:51.51 | i3d | search for Listen |
| 21:52.47 | Think | found it Listen 12.34.56.78:80 |
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| 21:53.18 | Think | just change it to my outside ip |
| 21:54.01 | Think | i3d do i need to change it my outside ip |
| 21:54.12 | i3d | Think: yes. but really, by default apache should listen to all your interfaces |
| 21:54.39 | i3d | Think: before you do that, can you run netstat -tanple | grep 80 and paste to me |
| 21:54.52 | Think | oke wait 2 sec |
| 21:55.32 | Think | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 0 25888 6198/apache |
| 21:55.32 | Think | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:41809 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 101 10519 4029/rpc.statd |
| 21:56.24 | Think | so what do you think |
| 21:56.37 | i3d | Think: ya, that's what I thought. its already listening |
| 21:57.32 | Think | so meaning i can change ip and its accessble true internet |
| 21:57.48 | roxville | ooooohhh.... :))) |
| 21:57.57 | Think | Hi roxville |
| 21:58.13 | i3d | Think: are you behind the NAT firewall? |
| 21:58.15 | roxville | hi Think how ya doin man? :) |
| 21:58.51 | Thanatermesis | i3d, http://www.elpais.es/articulo/internet/Procesadores/videoconsola/proximo/superordenador/IBM/elpportec/20060907elpepunet_4/Tes/ |
| 21:58.58 | Think | id3 i don't hope so i hate firewalls , Roxville : im good and you |
| 21:59.00 | Thanatermesis | well... its on spanish... :/ |
| 21:59.34 | roxville | i'm pretty good :) |
| 21:59.45 | Thanatermesis | fuck! |
| 21:59.53 | Think | duck! |
| 21:59.58 | roxville | better brush up on the spanish, i3d |
| 22:00.02 | Thanatermesis | nuclear armament... crazy governements... |
| 22:00.15 | i3d | Thanatermesis: looking at a foreign lang |
| 22:00.46 | Thanatermesis | http://66.249.93.104/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=es%7Cen&u=http://www.elpais.es/articulo/internet/Procesadores/videoconsola/proximo/superordenador/IBM/elpportec/20060907elpepunet_4/Tes/&prev=/language_tools |
| 22:00.47 | Think | i3d , what is my ipnumber |
| 22:00.48 | i3d | Think: ifconfig your interface |
| 22:00.52 | Thanatermesis | transaltion by google.. |
| 22:00.58 | Thanatermesis | The Department of Energy of the U.S.A. has selected to IBM so that a new supercomputer able creates to make 1,000 trillions of operations per second, thus reaching what it is known like petaflop, a calculation capacity that will be used to manage the system of storage of nuclear weapons. |
| 22:01.43 | i3d | Thanatermesis: ya, that sounds very powerful |
| 22:03.13 | Thanatermesis | but for a bad usage :( |
| 22:04.10 | i3d | ya, unfortunately, that's the reality. |
| 22:04.22 | Thanatermesis | yes :/ |
| 22:04.36 | Thanatermesis | i3d, do you have look the "pentagon strike" video ? :) |
| 22:04.54 | i3d | Thanatermesis: no I didn't. from youtube? |
| 22:05.01 | Thanatermesis | no.. let me search it.. |
| 22:05.06 | i3d | k |
| 22:05.08 | Thanatermesis | is on the Elive bookmarks actually ;) |
| 22:05.10 | Thanatermesis | future* |
| 22:05.15 | i3d | hehe... |
| 22:05.28 | Thanatermesis | http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/pentagon.htm |
| 22:05.41 | Thanatermesis | look it calm, the images pass TOO fast |
| 22:05.49 | i3d | well.. better keep way from politics |
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| 22:09.07 | Thanatermesis | Im think'in to call this video on the bookmarks "where is the airplane of waldo ?" |
| 22:12.20 | i3d | Thanatermesis: interesting |
| 22:12.38 | i3d | I've never seen some of the stuff before |
| 22:13.32 | Thanatermesis | no ? well, the next Elive has a section called "stop the war" in the "misc" directory... with a lot of very interessant videos ;) |
| 22:13.41 | Thanatermesis | btw, some of those videos are... |
| 22:13.43 | Thanatermesis | "hard" |
| 22:13.45 | i3d | but anyway, its going to hard to get cleared on some of the things... might never get cleared |
| 22:13.54 | Think | i3d , its not working , when i enter my own ipadress in exployer , than i have the menu of my modem strange |
| 22:14.24 | i3d | Think: explorer? what are you using? |
| 22:14.32 | Thanatermesis | is better to not think about what is the reality... but just important to know to the things is not clear ;) |
| 22:14.55 | Think | firefox |
| 22:15.29 | i3d | Think: you did http://localhost right? |
| 22:15.59 | Think | no i did my ipnumber |
| 22:16.17 | Think | can test it |
| 22:16.20 | Think | you |
| 22:16.27 | i3d | Thanatermesis: yes, that's the point. we as normal people will hard to know what the truth is |
| 22:16.45 | i3d | Think: what's your ip? |
| 22:17.32 | Think | 84.84.31.179/80 |
| 22:18.28 | i3d | Think: can you try http://localhost |
| 22:18.30 | LinuxNIT | think do you have port 80 forwarded to your computer? |
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| 22:18.44 | LinuxNIT | on the router |
| 22:18.48 | Think | dunno |
| 22:18.58 | Think | i will look |
| 22:19.05 | LinuxNIT | also try what i3d said to make sure the webserver is up and running |
| 22:19.58 | Think | id3 htpp://localhost is running |
| 22:20.18 | i3d | Think: ok then you'd need to check the firewall |
| 22:20.27 | i3d | your server is ok |
| 22:20.43 | LinuxNIT | then it probably needs the port forwarded on the router.. especially if you dont know if its done ;) |
| 22:21.17 | i3d | ya right, that's probably where the problem is |
| 22:22.36 | Think | its done i hope |
| 22:22.46 | Think | can you try again |
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| 22:24.19 | i3d | well, still doesn't see to work |
| 22:24.52 | LinuxNIT | Think, you tolde the router to forward port 80 to your computers local ipaddress right? |
| 22:25.02 | Think | yes |
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| 22:25.19 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 22:25.37 | i3d | LinuxNIT: he has a global ip, so he is not behind NAT |
| 22:25.57 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 22:26.09 | i3d | 84.84.31.179 |
| 22:26.13 | roxville | so... does his ISP actually BLOCK port 80? |
| 22:26.33 | i3d | he is probably connect to his modem directly |
| 22:26.43 | Think | yes |
| 22:27.16 | i3d | Think: you use elive? |
| 22:27.24 | LinuxNIT | oops i thought he said router menu not modem menu |
| 22:27.27 | LinuxNIT | my mistake |
| 22:27.48 | LinuxNIT | roxville, could be right.... cox cable did that to me |
| 22:27.57 | Think | Id3 yes |
| 22:28.23 | Think | 84.84.31.179/32 try this and come in my modem |
| 22:28.40 | i3d | Think: do you have a router sitting in b/w your isp modem and your server? |
| 22:29.20 | Think | its a modem/router in one , its speedtoch 510 serie |
| 22:29.37 | i3d | Think: oh ok |
| 22:29.56 | Think | :D |
| 22:30.27 | Think | no just make your self at home :D |
| 22:30.41 | LinuxNIT | nah im not hacking... just looking at whats open |
| 22:30.47 | LinuxNIT | if it will ever finish |
| 22:31.10 | Think | ow oke thats good |
| 22:31.17 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 22:31.40 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 22:31.49 | Think | lol |
| 22:31.51 | i3d | Think: I still think there is still something setup incorrect in your router |
| 22:32.21 | Think | mmm yes but what did you try the other link ://84.84.31.179/32 |
| 22:33.09 | i3d | why /32? |
| 22:33.22 | Think | that is acces to my modem/router |
| 22:33.32 | i3d | if you router has embedded http management interface, that should just be the ip |
| 22:34.29 | Think | ow im not that good in network envoirement so need more information sorry |
| 22:34.54 | i3d | Think: do you manage your router via http? |
| 22:35.05 | Think | 10.0.0.138 |
| 22:35.25 | roxville | Think, for gods sakes, don't type the info in here! |
| 22:35.34 | roxville | pls use another channel |
| 22:35.41 | roxville | #e;live-unstable is fine |
| 22:36.02 | Think | oke im sorry roxville |
| 22:36.11 | roxville | no no... |
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| 22:36.36 | roxville | the problem is... our dear bot, apt... posts everything on the internet |
| 22:36.43 | roxville | searchable via google |
| 22:36.58 | roxville | go ahead, google my nick, and you'll see what i mean |
| 22:37.18 | Think | are you upsead |
| 22:37.25 | i3d | hehe... see roxville must have got some bad experience before :-P |
| 22:37.33 | Think | lol |
| 22:38.12 | LinuxNIT | http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Thomson-Alcatel/SpeedTouch510Alt/Apache.htm |
| 22:38.13 | roxville | Think, i just don't want your server and connection to be hacked and compromised |
| 22:38.27 | roxville | not that there's any risk of that right now :) |
| 22:38.54 | LinuxNIT | is that your router? |
| 22:38.59 | i3d | LinuxNIT: got any scan result... we are going to hack into his server.. |
| 22:39.12 | roxville | :D |
| 22:39.24 | LinuxNIT | no not yet |
| 22:39.25 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 22:39.25 | Think | ow oke well thanks for the advise . i will need it |
| 22:39.57 | Think | Linuxnit thats my router/modem |
| 22:40.17 | LinuxNIT | Think, well that pages supposedly shows how to set up portforwarding on it |
| 22:41.53 | roxville | wow LinuxNIT i love the e17 test version thana has on the tests repo... |
| 22:42.08 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 22:42.13 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.13 | roxville | the shelf definitely has some cool stuff |
| 22:42.17 | LinuxNIT | this is my test install |
| 22:42.23 | Think | yes im looking at it and did it the same way , but what is my ipnumber |
| 22:42.31 | LinuxNIT | some of shelf is nice but some is a pain in the ass too |
| 22:42.44 | roxville | and switching windows... you can have a VERY cool effect |
| 22:42.46 | LinuxNIT | Think, run ifconfig |
| 22:43.00 | Think | ifconfig |
| 22:43.07 | i3d | roxville: you got it upgraded to test repo? |
| 22:43.08 | roxville | LinuxNIT, it's getting more and more configurable, though |
| 22:43.35 | LinuxNIT | that gives the ip or your computer assigned by the router. |
| 22:43.43 | roxville | i3d, yep, just enable tests repo for section elive and apt-get install e17 |
| 22:43.52 | roxville | but... |
| 22:43.55 | LinuxNIT | which is where the router needs to point all traffic requestiong port 80 |
| 22:44.03 | roxville | everything changes... no menu, no nothing |
| 22:44.05 | i3d | when? cause I upgraded once eariler and got screwed up |
| 22:44.11 | roxville | all the old eaps are outdated |
| 22:44.21 | roxville | i did it last night |
| 22:44.32 | roxville | there are only 3 themes that work |
| 22:44.37 | i3d | huh? what do you mean all old eaps are outdated? |
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| 22:45.22 | Think | Id3 can you come to elive-flood |
| 22:45.24 | roxville | i3d, the whole system is changing |
| 22:45.30 | i3d | roxville: I had compiled e17 on my other ubuntu box and works pretty good but elive no. |
| 22:45.37 | keyra | i3d: Ubuntu is OFF topic |
| 22:45.38 | roxville | idk how, but... they are out dated... |
| 22:45.42 | i3d | Think: ok |
| 22:46.03 | roxville | you need to re-enter info somehow... dunno just what yet |
| 22:46.58 | i3d | ok Think, you need to have your http traffic routed to your internal ip addr |
| 22:47.01 | roxville | well it works fine here... just the menu is... pretty much gone, just the basic apps |
| 22:47.18 | i3d | roxville: no engage anymore right? |
| 22:48.34 | Think | id3 ok how , |
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| 22:50.55 | i3d | how what? |
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| 22:52.47 | LinuxNIT | tadaa |
| 22:52.51 | LinuxNIT | in the new e17 |
| 22:52.51 | roxville | i3d, so it seems... hmmm... it was upgraded, though... iirc |
| 22:53.17 | Mutacion | qiubole rox |
| 22:53.19 | Mutacion | ese LinuxNIT |
| 22:53.21 | roxville | LinuxNIT, go to get-e and get the darkness theme... it is soooo dark! |
| 22:53.24 | Mutacion | ese i3d |
| 22:53.29 | roxville | hey Mutacion :) |
| 22:53.33 | LinuxNIT | hey Mutacion |
| 22:53.36 | i3d | Mutacion: hey |
| 22:53.37 | LinuxNIT | dark... meh |
| 22:53.42 | Mutacion | ^^ |
| 22:53.48 | i3d | roxville: hehe.. sooooo dark. |
| 22:53.52 | roxville | LinuxNIT, you have to try it! |
| 22:53.53 | Mutacion | nice channel..nice ppl |
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| 22:54.37 | i3d | roxville: I prefer dark theme.. looks darn cool |
| 22:54.44 | roxville | :) |
| 22:54.57 | LinuxNIT | roxville, i have used it ;) |
| 22:55.05 | Think | oke im done |
| 22:55.07 | i3d | and you know ,better for your eyes if you stay very long time with computer |
| 22:55.08 | LinuxNIT | mine is based off it |
| 22:55.10 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 22:55.18 | i3d | ok nice |
| 22:55.29 | Think | can you test it again |
| 22:55.35 | LinuxNIT | works Think |
| 22:55.38 | LinuxNIT | congrats |
| 22:55.38 | roxville | LinuxNIT, go to configurations/virtual desktops/advanced and enable zoom and increase the time to... 0.8 sec |
| 22:55.43 | Think | awesome |
| 22:55.46 | i3d | Think: you got it!! |
| 22:56.01 | roxville | and use either mouse or ctrl+alt+arrows |
| 22:56.11 | Think | thankyou id3 , Linuxnit, roxville |
| 22:56.15 | i3d | Think: now think about some protections |
| 22:56.33 | LinuxNIT | Think, anytime |
| 22:56.39 | roxville | to celebrate the birth of his server |
| 22:56.42 | LinuxNIT | roxville, hehe cool |
| 22:56.44 | Think | lol |
| 22:56.47 | i3d | yep |
| 22:56.50 | LinuxNIT | would be nicer if i had more video ram though |
| 22:56.51 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 22:57.03 | Mutacion | i3d, what time it is? |
| 22:57.13 | i3d | Mutacion: huh? |
| 22:57.21 | Mutacion | yeah.. what time it is |
| 22:57.29 | i3d | 5pm |
| 22:57.34 | Think | but how do i shut it down if there are problems or something |
| 22:57.39 | Mutacion | wrong answer i3d |
| 22:57.51 | Mutacion | apt time-to |
| 22:57.52 | apt | from memory, time-to is its HAMBRITA TIME!!! |
| 22:57.58 | keyra | Mutacion: yo hago unos jalapeƱos que si los pruebas te mueres ;) |
| 22:58.13 | Mutacion | haha inche keyra |
| 22:58.21 | i3d | holly cow |
| 22:58.22 | Mutacion | i love the new bot |
| 22:58.50 | Think | i3d howe can i protect my computer |
| 22:58.53 | roxville | lol |
| 22:58.55 | i3d | Mutacion: did you once a time ask me about how to setup the urxvt font? |
| 22:59.31 | i3d | Think: the first thing is to wander your router firewall settings, close all unncessary ports |
| 22:59.50 | Mutacion | yeah.. it was in a friends pc.. cause elpanel had some bugs launching -terminal configuration- and i want it to do it the manual way |
| 23:00.18 | i3d | ok finally I found the guy I was trying to talk to |
| 23:00.26 | roxville | lol |
| 23:00.29 | Think | id3 oke and can i use a firewall in linux will im running my server |
| 23:00.34 | i3d | the urxvt config is under .Xdefault |
| 23:00.45 | i3d | Think: of course |
| 23:01.15 | Think | oke i will do that |
| 23:01.17 | i3d | Think: and that's something you should do if you really want your server to be public. you got to keep a close eye on it |
| 23:01.53 | i3d | well anyway, got to run home. will meet you guys later.. |
| 23:02.21 | Think | oke bye i3d |
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| 23:13.42 | Think | Hey goodbye , and thanks for all the help |
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