irclog2html for #elive on 20060917

`00:00.33`	`adamant1988`	`thanks, I try :)`
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`00:01.10`	`TuxMeister`	`yeah, that's true, but they're stuck into debian's WW popularity... it's a great distro, but the people workin' there (not all, but some) are shitty personally talkin'...`
`00:01.50`	`TuxMeister`	`i could be the best programmer in the world, but if i just can't handle treating with people politely, i'm just a crap of a person...`
`00:02.18`	`TuxMeister`	`when i get in there, the help you get is not so personal as here`
`00:02.57`	`TuxMeister`	`and you have to wait a hell of a while till someone with a little good heart wants to answer your noob question, horrible`
`00:03.50`	`adamant1988`	`TuxMeister, I've found that this is a good way to get their attention:`
`00:04.24`	`TuxMeister`	`all my attention is yours`
`00:04.41`	`adamant1988`	`"Uhm... guys... I ran apt-get install insert your package name here and now my monitor is spinning, my cpu case is bleeding, and the speakers are informing me that I need to "let jesus fuck me" and that "My mother sucks cocks in hell"... can someone help?"`
`00:05.10`	`adamant1988`	`debian possessed lol.`
`00:05.13`	`adamant1988`	`love it.`
`00:05.31`	`TuxMeister`	`gosh... i could read this in some Thanatermesis' logs in #debian... really tough insults to noobs`
`00:05.43`	`TuxMeister`	`adamant1988, you're a poet, man`
`00:05.43`	`TuxMeister`	`xD`
`00:05.59`	`TuxMeister`	`the hyi-tech shakespear`
`00:06.03`	`TuxMeister`	`loved that`
`00:06.27`	`adamant1988`	`haha`
`00:08.29`	`TuxMeister`	`fetching whole e17 cvs`
`00:09.20`	`adamant1988`	`YES`
`00:09.25`	`adamant1988`	`TuxMeister, you're cool now`
`00:09.34`	`adamant1988`	`send me the first couple episodes of season 3`
`00:09.34`	`TuxMeister`	`xD`
`00:09.42`	`adamant1988`	`I own season 1 and 2 on DVD :)`
`00:10.30`	`TuxMeister`	`i'm download season one now (i first got the second, and i loved it)... i only have the first 2 of them from the 3 season...`
`00:10.49`	`TuxMeister`	`lemme finish with the cvs stuff and i'll dcc you, ok?`
`00:11.10`	`TuxMeister`	`you're lucky i didn't got them in spanish xD`
`00:11.35`	`TuxMeister`	`they have hdtv qual ;)`
`00:11.44`	`adamant1988`	`ARE YOU SERIOUS?`
`00:11.46`	`adamant1988`	`yousendit to me`
`00:11.48`	`adamant1988`	`I'm serious`
`00:11.50`	`adamant1988`	`send them to me`
`00:11.55`	`adamant1988`	`use yousendit.com`
`00:11.59`	`adamant1988`	`dcc doesn't work for me often`
`00:12.26`	`TuxMeister`	`ok`
`00:12.54`	`TuxMeister`	`i'll check that out when cvs fetchin' finishes`
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`00:20.44`	`get[elive]`	`where to put a edj file ?`
`00:24.18`	`TuxMeister`	`what edj file?`
`00:24.22`	`TuxMeister`	`background, theme?`
`00:24.25`	`Gwildor_`	`in the garbage :P`
`00:24.27`	`get[elive]`	`its done`
`00:24.33`	`get[elive]`	`a theme from princeamd`
`00:24.42`	`TuxMeister`	`ok`
`00:24.47`	`get[elive]`	`its ok`
`00:24.56`	`get[elive]`	`any good tuto there to make a theme ?`
`00:24.57`	`TuxMeister`	`sorry for the lag i was cookin'`
`00:25.41`	`Gwildor_`	`get[elive], id jsut ask rox or prine`
`00:26.25`	`adamant1988`	`TuxMeister, how's the CVS going?`
`00:26.30`	`TuxMeister`	`done`
`00:26.33`	`adamant1988`	`awesome`
`00:27.00`	`adamant1988`	`my email is adamant1988 @ Gmail use yousendit.com to send me the files :) send both episodes if you can... (they have to be below a gig though)`
`00:27.26`	`TuxMeister`	`yousendit.com only allows me to upload file up to 100mb of size`
`00:27.26`	`Gwildor_`	`episodes?`
`00:27.32`	`TuxMeister`	`House`
`00:27.44`	`Gwildor_`	`i missed the last one (newest)`
`00:27.56`	`adamant1988`	`are you serious?`
`00:27.58`	`Gwildor_`	`"aliens" were talked about in preview`
`00:28.03`	`Gwildor_`	`yes, dead....`
`00:28.05`	`adamant1988`	`it used to let me do up to one GB... wow...`
`00:28.06`	`Gwildor_`	`wasnt home`
`00:28.06`	`adamant1988`	`hold on`
`00:28.13`	`Gwildor_`	`ooh, about yousend it...`
`00:28.23`	`Gwildor_`	`yeah, i jstu found out a few days ago too..it used to be unlimited`
`00:28.28`	`TuxMeister`	`the 2 episode of the 3 season is awsome, i've loughed till death`
`00:28.30`	`Gwildor_`	`big as you wanted`
`00:28.39`	`adamant1988`	`yeah I remember those days Gwildor`
`00:28.40`	`Gwildor_`	`TuxMeister, that the "alien" one?`
`00:28.47`	`adamant1988`	`but they they changed it to 1 gb`
`00:28.47`	`TuxMeister`	`yes Gwildor`
`00:28.51`	`Gwildor_`	`SEN IT TO ME :D`
`00:29.03`	`TuxMeister`	`adamant1988 goes first for that`
`00:29.25`	`adamant1988`	`oh this is screwed up`
`00:29.26`	`TuxMeister`	`adamant1988, what if i run my apache2 server and fetch it with wget? as if i was a normal server?`
`00:29.42`	`adamant1988`	`do you have a file server up that I could download it from?`
`00:30.11`	`TuxMeister`	`no, but it's so easy as apt-get install apache2 and give you my public IP, LINUX POWA!`
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`00:30.24`	`adamant1988`	`hrmmm`
`00:30.30`	`adamant1988`	`let's try using dcc`
`00:30.32`	`adamant1988`	`maybe it will work`
`00:30.39`	`Gwildor_`	`wont for me :(`
`00:30.40`	`adamant1988`	`dcc it over to me :)`
`00:30.48`	`Gwildor_`	`how big file?`
`00:30.50`	`adamant1988`	`if not then I'll install apache`
`00:30.55`	`adamant1988`	`probably close to a gig Gwildor`
`00:30.59`	`Gwildor_`	`adamant1988, XAMPP`
`00:31.03`	`Gwildor_`	`tis easiest`
`00:31.09`	`adamant1988`	`wait a minute... there is probably a nother servvice like yousendity`
`00:31.12`	`TuxMeister`	`ehm, adamant1988 I'LL have to install apache`
`00:31.14`	`TuxMeister`	`just wait a sec`
`00:31.30`	`Gwildor_`	`u know what...hmmm...`
`00:31.38`	`Gwildor_`	`ill have to make a partition to put in on..`
`00:31.49`	`Gwildor_`	`live cd, and existing partition is NTFS`
`00:31.50`	`adamant1988`	`Oh, I won't have to install it?`
`00:32.24`	`TuxMeister`	`nope... i serve you, you're my client`
`00:32.47`	`TuxMeister`	`but don't worry it's allready done`
`00:32.53`	`adamant1988`	`oh ok`
`00:33.03`	`adamant1988`	`so how do I get it from your "Server"?`
`00:34.22`	`Gwildor_`	`he send you a linky :D`
`00:34.28`	`Gwildor_`	`jstu apste the wget line :P`
`00:34.44`	`TuxMeister`	`adamant1988, whait, let's do it better`
`00:35.01`	`adamant1988`	`ok`
`00:35.06`	`TuxMeister`	`wget -c http://87.219.3.23/3%c2%ba%20temporada/house.302.hdtv-lol.avi`
`00:35.20`	`TuxMeister`	`shit xD`
`00:35.27`	`TuxMeister`	`that's the second one`
`00:35.39`	`adamant1988`	`I suggest you change that... everyone in the room is gonna be downloading it now`
`00:35.56`	`Gwildor_`	`imma grab it, if its cool`
`00:36.25`	`Gwildor_`	`sweet, guess not..HDD is finally toast`
`00:36.27`	`adamant1988`	`I'm working on it now...`
`00:36.46`	`Gwildor_`	`TuxMeister, would it be cool, if i grabbed it monday?`
`00:36.46`	`TuxMeister`	`who's gettin it right now?`
`00:36.46`	`adamant1988`	`ETA about 2 hours...`
`00:36.50`	`adamant1988`	`I download so slow...`
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`00:37.07`	`TuxMeister`	`it's me i'm uploadin at only 50Kbps`
`00:37.20`	`adamant1988`	`that too`
`00:37.28`	`adamant1988`	`that's still better rates than I would have gotten from limewire`
`00:37.54`	`TuxMeister`	`Gwildor, no problem, just give me a beep or somethin', i have variable IP`
`00:38.00`	`adamant1988`	`so... I gues wget is just CLI for downloading something?`
`00:38.46`	`TuxMeister`	`yep, and if you use "-c" option you can continue download from servers who support that (allmost all do that)`
`00:40.09`	`Gwildor_`	`TuxMeister, ofcourse, we can chat monday :D`
`00:40.27`	`Gwildor_`	`i try not to just "take" from servers hosted @ ur guys home...`
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`00:40.53`	`adamant1988`	`yakuake is so 1337`
`00:42.40`	`TuxMeister`	`Gwildor, i don't do this usually, but i love House, and why not sharing it... and besides, who'se gonna catch us over here...`
`00:42.41`	`TuxMeister`	`xD`
`00:43.16`	`adamant1988`	`yeah, it's only illegal if you get caught...`
`00:43.19`	`TuxMeister`	`you know, in spain, a couple of years ago, IRC was just another way to download what they call "piracy" and i call public domain culture`
`00:43.30`	`adamant1988`	`I call it digital activism`
`00:43.40`	`adamant1988`	`I don't want a DRM-ed DVD.. you gave me no choice`
`00:43.51`	`TuxMeister`	`xD we're gonna be friends xD`
`00:43.55`	`adamant1988`	`the fact that I own the first two seasons on DVD is irrelevant.`
`00:44.43`	`TuxMeister`	`it's so long sice i buy something ORIGINAL xD`
`00:45.13`	`adamant1988`	`lol`
`00:45.48`	`Gwildor_`	`if this has commercials on it......ist jsut the same as if i watched it on TV`
`00:45.50`	`Gwildor_`	`:P`
`00:45.52`	`TuxMeister`	`i don't but piracy, i download things... and thanks to that i have nearly 30gigs of great music, all style i like, witch if i would have to buy, would suppose allmose a year's sallary... sooooooo, i'm not even able or disposed to pay that for culture that was made for all of us`
`00:46.17`	`TuxMeister`	`Gwildor, it doesn't adds were cut off`
`00:46.20`	`Gwildor_`	`only thing i pirate anymore, is windows .....and this hosue episode..`
`00:46.27`	`Gwildor_`	`ooh, sweet :P`
`00:46.46`	`adamant1988`	`bah... I was against piracy, until a few days ago when I had an experience that changed my life.`
`00:46.48`	`Gwildor_`	`yeah, i wouldnt go looking for this on a torrent site, or limewire or whatever the cool kids use..`
`00:46.50`	`TuxMeister`	`xD nice stuff i have man`
`00:47.08`	`Gwildor_`	`but, ill take from a friends priv server any day of the week :D`
`00:47.21`	`Gwildor_`	`adamant1988, im not against it...jsut dont do it..`
`00:47.22`	`TuxMeister`	`Gwildor, i get it from torrent`
`00:47.28`	`adamant1988`	`I was in wal-mart and the I asked for them to rebate the cost of windows off of one of their machines because I didn't want it.`
`00:47.40`	`adamant1988`	`and they informed me that it was illegal for them to remove windows from that machine`
`00:47.51`	`Gwildor_`	`TuxMeister, thats fine....gimme 100's of CD's of pirated software...ill use it.......i jsut dont go get myself anymore..`
`00:47.58`	`adamant1988`	`I was like... I have no idea what this has to do with DRM... but I'm going to blame it anyway`
`00:48.04`	`adamant1988`	`so now I'm all for downloading shit.`
`00:48.37`	`Gwildor_`	`adamant1988, its not illegal, jsut for 99% of the walmart customers, that would have worked......either way, you arent getting your refund.`
`00:48.53`	`adamant1988`	`yeah, I argued for a few minutes`
`00:49.08`	`Gwildor_`	`adamant1988, DONT......less you like the special olympics`
`00:49.18`	`adamant1988`	`I'm sure they'll remember me... I talked to at least 3 sales reps, and the store manager.`
`00:49.19`	`adamant1988`	`it was great.`
`00:49.29`	`TuxMeister`	`adamant1988, drm make windows activate himself using a hardware code written in your bios, it's like a checksum of all you're hardware, and unique... and microsoft get's payed for that to be like this`
`00:50.04`	`TuxMeister`	`here in spain, if you wanna get some pc or laptop without windows in it, it get's more expensive than with win in it`
`00:50.08`	`adamant1988`	`Yeah... I think about the time that starts really happening you're going to see a Dell and HP replacement come up`
`00:50.12`	`adamant1988`	`system76.com anyone?`
`00:50.26`	`TuxMeister`	`couse you allready ARE paying windows, it comes by default, and plus you have to pay tech support to delete that xD`
`00:50.50`	`adamant1988`	`actually with DELL and HP you can get the price of windows removed from the machine if you buy online`
`00:51.02`	`adamant1988`	`I emailed both of their sales departments about that.`
`00:51.07`	`TuxMeister`	`so you pay a licence that you don't get, and if you have a problem, many tech-supports tell you that if it doesn't has the original windows, they won't fix it`
`00:51.22`	`adamant1988`	`it doesn't have the license either.. they give you like "Free dos" or something like that`
`00:51.54`	`adamant1988`	`BUT Lenovo is the only known popular OEM that actually will do tech support for a linux installation.`
`00:52.23`	`TuxMeister`	`that's cool, IBM rocks! xD`
`00:52.24`	`Gwildor_`	`dell does on servers`
`00:52.32`	`Gwildor_`	`if you order the server w/ linux isntalled`
`00:52.37`	`Gwildor_`	`they do redhat iirc`
`00:54.08`	`adamant1988`	`yeah, but I'm talking desktops`
`00:54.18`	`adamant1988`	`TuxMeister, lenovo isn't IBM.`
`00:54.28`	`TuxMeister`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:55.06`	`Gwildor_`	`never was...`
`00:55.06`	`TuxMeister`	`xD lenovo is EX ibm personal computer branch... IBM actually only deals with servers and mainframes`
`00:55.17`	`Gwildor_`	`levono jstu designed for IBM`
`00:55.29`	`Gwildor_`	`well, laptop design..`
`00:55.38`	`Gwildor_`	`ur MORE correct TuxMeister`
`00:55.38`	`adamant1988`	`Lenovo is is company that bough IBM's thinkpad line.`
`00:55.48`	`adamant1988`	`I'm more correct than both of you :D`
`00:56.04`	`Gwildor_`	`levono used to design the thinpads...then bought the line recently..`
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`00:56.39`	`Gwildor_`	`<TuxMeister> xD lenovo is EX ibm personal computer branch... IBM actually only deals with servers and mainframes <<---is correct`
`00:56.41`	`TuxMeister`	`xD lenovo bought all desktop and laptop line for personal use, i've been to the adquisition announcement in spain`
`00:57.23`	`TuxMeister`	`Gwildor, thanks for you're support xD`
`00:57.38`	`adamant1988`	`Nuh Uh!`
`00:57.45`	`Gwildor_`	`:P`
`00:57.51`	`adamant1988`	`both of you..`
`00:57.55`	`adamant1988`	`yakuake is awesome`
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`01:01.40`	`adamant1988`	`Hrmmm...`
`01:02.05`	`TuxMeister`	`adamant1988, how's the download goin'?`
`01:02.12`	`adamant1988`	`it's chugging along`
`01:02.24`	`adamant1988`	`52 kb a sec`
`01:03.25`	`TuxMeister`	`well, that's my top... sorry, you'll have to get along with that`
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`01:05.42`	`pales_rider`	`hi revdjenk`
`01:05.47`	`revdjenk`	`hey all`
`01:06.20`	`adamant1988`	`revdjenk,`
`01:06.23`	`adamant1988`	`how's life?`
`01:06.39`	`revdjenk`	`Thanatermesis, what was that path again for group, passwd and shadow?`
`01:06.52`	`adamant1988`	`TuxMeister, I wasn't complaining.. I told you, that's better than I would have gotten from a p2p network`
`01:06.55`	`revdjenk`	`hey adamant1988 you are living here now :)`
`01:07.11`	`adamant1988`	`revdjenk, It's been interesting... lol.`
`01:07.15`	`adamant1988`	`Lilo died today.`
`01:07.18`	`revdjenk`	`hee hee`
`01:07.25`	`adamant1988`	`I feel really bad for his family...`
`01:07.51`	`adamant1988`	`he was hit by a car while he was bicycling.`
`01:08.12`	`revdjenk`	`lilo?`
`01:08.30`	`adamant1988`	`lilo, yes... the guy who does all the broadcast messages for the networl?`
`01:08.35`	`adamant1988`	`network?`
`01:08.36`	`adamant1988`	`freenode.`
`01:09.08`	`revdjenk`	`wow...didn't know, have been working all day.`
`01:09.12`	`revdjenk`	`haven't hear`
`01:09.15`	`revdjenk`	`heard`
`01:09.16`	`Gwildor_`	`global message -lilo-: passwords stolen <<---that guy`
`01:09.35`	`adamant1988`	`yeah, I knew you've been out all day.`
`01:09.47`	`adamant1988`	`Man, that lady down at JCpenny's was kind of rude lol.`
`01:09.50`	`revdjenk`	`at first I thought you meant the dual boot lilo`
`01:10.01`	`revdjenk`	`and loud!`
`01:10.27`	`adamant1988`	`you talked to her?`
`01:10.42`	`revdjenk`	`picked up an order...`
`01:10.46`	`adamant1988`	`ah.`
`01:11.16`	`revdjenk`	`that's how I heard that the tech had quit`
`01:11.32`	`adamant1988`	`yeah.. I was like "I heard there was an opening for someone to work here part time doing computer repair" and she just raised an eyebrow and was like "Uhm, no, but you can go check with the guy upstairs in the mall and see if that's who you heard about"`
`01:12.17`	`adamant1988`	`and the entire time I'm thinking... "Grrrrr su root mv hall.dll /dev/null" >=(`
`01:12.24`	`adamant1988`	`hal*`
`01:13.09`	`revdjenk`	`for her to disappear or you...hee hee`
`01:13.37`	`adamant1988`	`hal.dll is a windows file :) she was sitting there typing on her windows computer when I came in.`
`01:13.59`	`adamant1988`	`yeah.. removing hal.dll is a good way to get back at someone who's really made you unhappy`
`01:14.23`	`Gwildor_`	`so is booting DBAN!`
`01:14.41`	`Gwildor_`	`<1 min boot, & by then, its too late`
`01:14.41`	`adamant1988`	`=\`
`01:15.03`	`adamant1988`	`Yeah.. I was thinking about putting an uber magnet on top of her computer lol`
`01:15.14`	`Gwildor_`	`hehe`
`01:15.16`	`adamant1988`	`no way to save the information then maniacal grin`
`01:15.20`	`revdjenk`	`you are quit intense ada`
`01:15.23`	`Gwildor_`	`DBAN neither...`
`01:15.28`	`Gwildor_`	`Gov. grade`
`01:15.40`	`Gwildor_`	`iirc ?nasa? uses it`
`01:15.43`	`Gwildor_`	`NDA too`
`01:15.45`	`Gwildor_`	`NSA`
`01:15.49`	`revdjenk`	`wha...when a Dr Pepper would do?`
`01:16.12`	`adamant1988`	`oh...`
`01:16.15`	`adamant1988`	`hrmmm`
`01:16.21`	`Gwildor_`	`gotta go..laters`
`01:16.21`	`adamant1988`	`wget DBAN`
`01:16.23`	`TuxMeister`	`what's DBAN? xD`
`01:16.29`	`Gwildor_`	`deriks boot and nuke`
`01:16.31`	`Gwildor_`	`google it`
`01:16.33`	`adamant1988`	`OMG GUYS THIS IS HORRIBLE`
`01:16.34`	`Gwildor_`	`1 sec, i will`
`01:16.36`	`adamant1988`	`http://qdb.us/66436`
`01:17.03`	`Gwildor_`	`http://dban.sourceforge.net/`
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`01:17.37`	`adamant1988`	`GAH`
`01:18.19`	`adamant1988`	`revdjenk, you're like one of 5 people of authority who has told me that.`
`01:18.25`	`revdjenk`	`apt: \| adamant1988`
`01:18.26`	`apt`	`ACTION beats $foo mercilessly with a lead \|`
`01:18.37`	`Gwildor_`	`bb guys`
`01:18.53`	`revdjenk`	`see ya, Gwildor`
`01:18.59`	`adamant1988`	`I actually had a grade school counselor tell me I need to learn how to relax =\`
`01:19.02`	`revdjenk`	`Thanatermesis, ping`
`01:19.07`	`TuxMeister`	`see ya Gwildor`
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`01:19.27`	`TuxMeister`	`sleepin' or shaggin' xDD who knows`
`01:19.33`	`TuxMeister`	`Thanatermesis, i mean xD`
`01:19.46`	`revdjenk`	`nah it isn't that you need to relax...just realize that not everyone can keep up!`
`01:19.47`	`adamant1988`	`I figure it has something to do with the large amount of caffeine I take in every day`
`01:20.10`	`revdjenk`	`that would doo it`
`01:20.12`	`adamant1988`	`I am so addicted ...`
`01:20.26`	`adamant1988`	`I think the caffeine is the reason I don't weigh more than I do.`
`01:20.35`	`adamant1988`	`Because I just don't eat right at all.`
`01:20.49`	`revdjenk`	`where is the closest starbuck's`
`01:20.57`	`adamant1988`	`we don't have one =(`
`01:21.04`	`revdjenk`	`duh!!`
`01:21.10`	`revdjenk`	`Buckhannon?`
`01:21.14`	`adamant1988`	`There IS one in morgantown though... in the Barnes & noble`
`01:21.14`	`revdjenk`	`Charleston?`
`01:21.20`	`pales_rider`	`no starbucks in elkins?`
`01:21.20`	`revdjenk`	`hee hee`
`01:21.22`	`adamant1988`	`That's the only one I know about.`
`01:21.28`	`adamant1988`	`wait a minute...`
`01:21.33`	`adamant1988`	`that was a loaded question wasn't it?`
`01:21.37`	`revdjenk`	`nope...no elk either :)`
`01:21.40`	`pales_rider`	`lol`
`01:21.51`	`revdjenk`	`but we grind our own`
`01:22.02`	`adamant1988`	`Not me`
`01:22.08`	`revdjenk`	`we used to live in San Francisco after all`
`01:22.17`	`adamant1988`	`My fiantsy bought me exactly 120 cans of coke for our anniversary`
`01:22.25`	`revdjenk`	`hee hee`
`01:22.33`	`adamant1988`	`I have never been that happy with a gift before`
`01:23.00`	`revdjenk`	`10 cans for each month`
`01:23.01`	`adamant1988`	`see revdjenk it's the simple things that make a guy happy lol.`
`01:23.06`	`adamant1988`	`YEAH RIGHT`
`01:23.11`	`adamant1988`	`Those MIGHT last a month.`
`01:23.12`	`adamant1988`	`MAYBE`
`01:23.19`	`revdjenk`	`hee hee`
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`01:23.47`	`adamant1988`	`anni was on the 10th... I'm now down to 72 cans.`
`01:23.57`	`revdjenk`	`not bad`
`01:24.00`	`adamant1988`	`no doubt.`
`01:24.02`	`revdjenk`	`how's the tooth`
`01:24.05`	`revdjenk`	`hee hee`
`01:24.07`	`adamant1988`	`no problems.`
`01:24.15`	`adamant1988`	`I brush them, so they're ok`
`01:24.39`	`revdjenk`	`I mena the one you have left from the acid eating allthe calcium...hee hee`
`01:24.50`	`adamant1988`	`Oh that one...`
`01:25.04`	`adamant1988`	`uhm.. it's ok.. I figure I'll get it replaced next time I go to the dentist.`
`01:25.19`	`adamant1988`	`why can't they genetically enhance teeth to never get cavities.`
`01:25.20`	`adamant1988`	`lol`
`01:25.39`	`adamant1988`	`then people would only have to care about dental hygeine for sex appeal....`
`01:26.08`	`revdjenk`	`they are going the other way... a new special sealant to close up all the open pores and make them impervious`
`01:26.18`	`revdjenk`	`but it leads to other problems`
`01:26.45`	`adamant1988`	`yeah`
`01:26.54`	`adamant1988`	`well, we can't get anything right... we just trade problem`
`01:26.56`	`adamant1988`	`s*`
`01:27.02`	`revdjenk`	`:)`
`01:27.16`	`revdjenk`	`brb`
`01:27.28`	`revdjenk`	`#elive-unstable`
`01:27.53`	`adamant1988`	`It's like.. you take the same pill every day and you're like "I'm sick of all the rashes this is giving me" so you take another one and you get like anal bleeding and you're perfectly content with that for a while =\ nothing every works well enough`
`01:27.57`	`revdjenk`	`ah...he IS away`
`01:28.17`	`revdjenk`	`anal bleeding>!>! lOL`
`01:28.33`	`revdjenk`	`I heard that in TV ads`
`01:28.36`	`revdjenk`	`hee hee`
`01:28.37`	`adamant1988`	`haha.`
`01:28.52`	`revdjenk`	`OH, like, yes...I want THAT pill!!!`
`01:29.00`	`adamant1988`	`NOT ANY OTHER`
`01:29.05`	`adamant1988`	`I WANT THIS ONE... I NEED THAT SIDE EFFECT`
`01:29.17`	`adamant1988`	`IT'LL GIVE ME SOMETHING TO CHAT WITH THE LADIES ABOUT`
`01:30.14`	`adamant1988`	`females are such an odd breed revdjenk`
`01:30.15`	`adamant1988`	`My fiantsy called me yesterday... she's sick.. I got her sick, it's her fault though she wouldn't stay away from me like I told her to.`
`01:30.15`	`revdjenk`	`yes...that is why we lvoe them`
`01:30.16`	`adamant1988`	`So now she's feeling like complete crap.`
`01:30.31`	`adamant1988`	`She calls me... and yells at me for 90 minutes about how her throat hurts...`
`01:30.31`	`revdjenk`	`tag...you are it`
`01:31.28`	`adamant1988`	`I mean... the solution to the throat hurting would be.. talk as little as possible`
`01:31.40`	`adamant1988`	`but every other sentance was "God my throat hurts so bad when I talk"`
`01:31.44`	`revdjenk`	`hee hee`
`01:31.45`	`adamant1988`	`=\`
`01:31.55`	`adamant1988`	`are they just born without common sense or is it just mine?`
`01:32.48`	`adamant1988`	`oh well, I love her anyway`
`01:33.13`	`revdjenk`	`my wife keeps me on track`
`01:33.27`	`adamant1988`	`and privacy has no meaning to any of these girls at all... I took the opprtunity to go to lunch with jenny and 2 of her co workers`
`01:33.42`	`adamant1988`	`I'm sitting at the table... and they go through every single detail of their sex lives...`
`01:34.00`	`revdjenk`	`and you stayed?`
`01:34.09`	`adamant1988`	`I'm sitting right there.. and Jenny is talking about me like she doesn't even know... I'm like... 0_0`
`01:34.31`	`adamant1988`	`I now know everything those 2 other girls like in bed... oh and that one of them is probably pregnant.`
`01:34.59`	`adamant1988`	`yeah, I stayed... it wasn't worse than my Marketing class.`
`01:35.30`	`adamant1988`	`Imagine being the only guy in a room of 24 students... and those other 23 students like to discuss their period, and the name of their favorite dildo... THAT was my marketing class.`
`01:36.29`	`adamant1988`	`life just never ceases to be interesting...`
`01:36.31`	`revdjenk`	`I obviously went to a different school than you`
`01:37.52`	`adamant1988`	`yeah... I imagine..`
`01:38.02`	`adamant1988`	`EHS is.. ehm... interesting sometimes.`
`01:39.32`	`revdjenk`	`is there a chance to shado you in school some day...you know, just be a silent partner`
`01:40.16`	`adamant1988`	`hahaha`
`01:40.26`	`adamant1988`	`lol...`
`01:40.47`	`revdjenk`	`well, it does sound funny, but really would like to do it...`
`01:40.57`	`adamant1988`	`haha, not sure..`
`01:41.16`	`adamant1988`	`I'm sure I could make up any number of good excuses/lies for you to do it`
`01:41.19`	`revdjenk`	`you do have a computer class, eh`
`01:41.25`	`revdjenk`	`hee hee`
`01:41.26`	`adamant1988`	`ehm. no...`
`01:41.33`	`revdjenk`	`really?`
`01:41.38`	`revdjenk`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:41.43`	`adamant1988`	`I have math, Chem, nothing, and then current events`
`01:41.56`	`adamant1988`	`that nothing area is when I mess with the computers`
`01:42.10`	`revdjenk`	`anyone we could sneak a Linux event into?`
`01:42.23`	`adamant1988`	`3rd block is when I have no class`
`01:42.32`	`adamant1988`	`but it would be bad for an event because that's when lunch is`
`01:42.40`	`revdjenk`	`aha`
`01:43.00`	`TuxMeister`	`adamant1988, how's house doin'?`
`01:43.08`	`revdjenk`	`unless one had a projector and a blank wall`
`01:43.14`	`adamant1988`	`it's got another hour.`
`01:43.26`	`adamant1988`	`revdjenk, LOL.. brain wash an entire cafeteria.. love it`
`01:43.50`	`revdjenk`	`hee hee`
`01:43.55`	`TuxMeister`	`ok... i'm buildin' libs around here so all the bandwidth's youts`
`01:44.03`	`adamant1988`	`killer TuxMeister`
`01:44.07`	`adamant1988`	`j00 rock`
`01:44.17`	`TuxMeister`	`xD`
`01:44.27`	`adamant1988`	`revdjenk, does it make me sad that I'm actually learning how to write an entire love note in bash?`
`01:44.31`	`TuxMeister`	`you're welcome bro`
`01:45.09`	`revdjenk`	`your fiantsy will be proud`
`01:45.14`	`adamant1988`	`not really`
`01:45.20`	`adamant1988`	`I'm still fighting with her to get Linux on her computer`
`01:45.38`	`adamant1988`	`she can't really appreciate bash yet.`
`01:45.54`	`TuxMeister`	`mine would be (girl friend)... it's just she would only understand what she sees, not what's under all that`
`01:46.12`	`adamant1988`	`yeah`
`01:46.15`	`TuxMeister`	`adamant1988, same problem here`
`01:46.19`	`adamant1988`	`hey revdjenk http://qdb.us/67042`
`01:46.26`	`adamant1988`	`:) you made the quote database.`
`01:47.15`	`adamant1988`	`TuxMeister, I'm also looking at PC-BSD`
`01:47.20`	`adamant1988`	`it looks pretty awesome...`
`01:47.56`	`TuxMeister`	`cool...`
`01:48.26`	`adamant1988`	`TuxMeister, IT IS COOL name one linux distro with a completely self-installing binary format that resolves all dependencies?`
`01:49.08`	`TuxMeister`	`yes it is, man... (debian does that too though)`
`01:49.15`	`Gwildor_`	`lol`
`01:49.22`	`TuxMeister`	`i was thinking of tryin' out gentoo`
`01:49.54`	`adamant1988`	`TuxMeister, debian doesn't do that...`
`01:50.21`	`adamant1988`	`Debian is useless without an internet connection, you wouldn't be able to get the dependencies if you could even get the program`
`01:50.22`	`dererk`	`revdjenk, I'm afraid you must take Rob Levin into your night prays`
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`01:50.33`	`dererk`	`He was a good guy...`
`01:50.33`	`TuxMeister`	`it doesn't? well, the package managers do that, couse the packages contain all the deps information`
`01:50.37`	`adamant1988`	`PC-BSD uses PBI which is a lot like .exe`
`01:50.59`	`revdjenk`	`is that lilo`
`01:51.07`	`adamant1988`	`it doesn't need to pull any of the dependencies from online.. they're all in the package`
`01:51.09`	`dererk`	`he was`
`01:51.10`	`adamant1988`	`yes revdjenk`
`01:51.17`	`TuxMeister`	`adamant1988, well, that's great then... all libs in there, cool`
`01:51.23`	`revdjenk`	`yes, I heard when I signed in`
`01:51.33`	`dererk`	`life is too shitty sometimes`
`01:51.37`	`adamant1988`	`yeah... they have a package called "essential codecs" it installs mp3, flash, DVD, everything...`
`01:51.43`	`adamant1988`	`just double click the pbi and it all installs for you`
`01:51.43`	`revdjenk`	`...then you die`
`01:51.44`	`TuxMeister`	`.exe installing is not so bad, windows users would go mad if they had to install something manually xD`
`01:51.45`	`adamant1988`	`I drooled.`
`01:51.47`	`revdjenk`	`old saying`
`01:52.11`	`TuxMeister`	`adamant1988, what GUI does it use?`
`01:52.18`	`adamant1988`	`KDE`
`01:52.33`	`TuxMeister`	`packaged for it or alien?`
`01:52.33`	`adamant1988`	`it's not like linux though.. you'd be hard pressed to put anothe DE on it.`
`01:52.54`	`adamant1988`	`it's installed right from the get go.`
`01:53.09`	`adamant1988`	`oh wait... you mean the pbi?`
`01:53.20`	`adamant1988`	`pbi's have an installer that looks a lot like the one in windows.`
`01:53.25`	`TuxMeister`	`darn, that's not good... that ease of use combined with E would be great`
`01:53.31`	`TuxMeister`	`install E with a doubleclick xD`
`01:53.34`	`TuxMeister`	`awsome xD`
`01:54.56`	`adamant1988`	`yeah... well as far as I know the pbi framework is open source... I'm sure if someone wanted to they could use that to make a similiar product for linux.`
`01:55.17`	`adamant1988`	`but most linux users prefer the repo method of doing things...`
`01:55.40`	`adamant1988`	`myself, I see pluses to both... but it's very difficult to apt-get a file to get my internet working if my internet isn't working...`
`01:56.06`	`TuxMeister`	`xD`
`01:56.42`	`TuxMeister`	`yeah, but all decent distros should have all packages needed to do that in the base system`
`01:57.13`	`adamant1988`	`unless the package you want is non-free and the distro you use is dedicated to the spirit of open source. -_-`
`01:57.23`	`adamant1988`	`spirit and software just do not mix.`
`01:57.51`	`adamant1988`	`If I install an nvidia driver I'm pretty sure that =\I'm not going to be haunted by Richard Stallman until I remove it`
`01:59.20`	`TuxMeister`	`xD`
`01:59.31`	`TuxMeister`	`stallman is just the most stric part of it`
`01:59.47`	`adamant1988`	`haha`
`02:00.23`	`adamant1988`	`yakuake is so cool... it's like my always ready terminal`
`02:00.38`	`TuxMeister`	`i went to a conference he gave here in barcelona, in a college, and he's so fuckin' convinced of his shit, that if you're starting in open-source, you could believe all he says`
`02:01.24`	`TuxMeister`	`and get wrong path eventually`
`02:01.43`	`TuxMeister`	`world's not so strait, it has curves, but not stallman's soul`
`02:02.46`	`adamant1988`	`nope`
`02:02.50`	`adamant1988`	`TuxMeister, are you russion?`
`02:02.53`	`adamant1988`	`russian`
`02:03.12`	`adamant1988`	`http://qdb.us/8291 IF NOT read this.. it's hilarious`
`02:03.25`	`TuxMeister`	`no, i'm romanian, close, but not too far xD`
`02:03.53`	`TuxMeister`	`cool, you had in mind all the "this content can hurt some people's sensibility"`
`02:04.00`	`TuxMeister`	`live parental advisory xD`
`02:04.07`	`adamant1988`	`haha`
`02:04.40`	`adamant1988`	`well e-debates about race and origin are just boring... and a waste of perfectly good time we could be using laughing at a race we don't belong to =\`
`02:04.46`	`TuxMeister`	`JEEZ, MY LUNGS HURT Xd`
`02:04.48`	`TuxMeister`	`xD`
`02:05.21`	`TuxMeister`	`INCHERECTION, that was brilliant man`
`02:05.28`	`adamant1988`	`yeah, I know`
`02:05.37`	`adamant1988`	`qdb.us is an amazing way to spend your time.`
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`02:06.18`	`TuxMeister`	`xD`
`02:06.53`	`adamant1988`	`<Wi\|d-Ride> I'm madder than a 3 legged dog trying to hide a turd on a frozen pond.`
`02:07.07`	`adamant1988`	`omg.. lol`
`02:07.12`	`adamant1988`	`some of the stuff these people say`
`02:07.14`	`adamant1988`	`it's great`
`02:07.49`	`TuxMeister`	`can't understand that, don't have such and extended english vocabulary`
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`02:09.03`	`Gwildor_`	`TuxMeister, 3 legged dog.....try to bury a shit in the ice......cant happen, so dog is angry :P`
`02:09.21`	`TuxMeister`	`i thank god i still can type and speak as i do, after all i've suffered learning english at school... my real teachers were cow and chicken, dextesr laboratory and more`
`02:09.23`	`TuxMeister`	`xD`
`02:09.27`	`adamant1988`	`* Quits: Bad_CRC (Quit: IRC, Where the men are men, The women are men, and the kids are FBI agents.)`
`02:09.30`	`Gwildor_`	`HAHAHAHAHA`
`02:09.45`	`adamant1988`	`haha`
`02:09.51`	`TuxMeister`	`i'm 19, and back in romania i enjoyed cable tv with non-double, real format, cartoon network 24/7`
`02:09.52`	`TuxMeister`	`xD`
`02:10.05`	`adamant1988`	`cartoon network rocked...`
`02:10.07`	`TuxMeister`	`hahahahahahahahaha`
`02:10.10`	`adamant1988`	`until they ruined it..`
`02:10.13`	`quidam-`	`TuxMeister, Buona notte¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡`
`02:10.17`	`quidam-`	`tiempo sin verte :D`
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`02:10.29`	`dererk`	`quidam-, te has enterado lo de Lilo ? :\|`
`02:10.30`	`adamant1988`	`BRING BACK DRAGON BALL Z AND GUNDAM WING YOU NAZIS!`
`02:10.31`	`TuxMeister`	`quidam-, hey amigo, comme stai? tutto benne?`
`02:10.48`	`quidam-`	`dererk, no, que cosa?`
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`02:10.59`	`quidam-`	`TuxMeister, benne¡¡¡¡ e tu comme'stai?`
`02:11.11`	`dats`	`hiiiiiiiiiii`
`02:11.13`	`dererk`	`quidam-, Que murio Rob Levin, el operador de Freenode, luego de ser atropellado por un auto`
`02:11.17`	`TuxMeister`	`tropo benne, compilando unne librerie`
`02:11.17`	`dats`	`que tal ?`
`02:11.44`	`quidam-`	`:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo`
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`02:12.14`	`TuxMeister`	`adamant1988, the shit is, in romania they cut the transmission by the time dragon ball z was broadcasted`
`02:12.17`	`dats`	`dererk: la muerte no es nunca buena :(`
`02:12.31`	`adamant1988`	`are you serious?`
`02:12.45`	`adamant1988`	`you missed the best morally bankrupt anime of 1995 :(`
`02:12.54`	`TuxMeister`	`yeah, so i never got to see the good cartoons, allways 3 year old crap`
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`02:13.34`	`adamant1988`	`that's ok.. I'll send you some money and you can purchase all of the DBZ DVDs and a rabid fan for less than the cost of shipping... all the cool kids watch hentai now.`
`02:14.06`	`TuxMeister`	`yeah, i realized that when i got here in spain... everybody talkin' about ball z's last episodes and me, what? talkin' about the devil in cow and chiken? distrous xD`
`02:14.15`	`PrinceAMD`	`me likes Hellsing`
`02:15.13`	`adamant1988`	`Uhmm... crap.. I think it's Trigun... That was an awesome show.`
`02:15.47`	`TuxMeister`	`me LOVES hellsing but.. (this is the only bad thing im gonna say about her) MY SO SO SO STUPID girlfriend deleted all the temp folders in azureus while downloading... HATED HER FOR THAT A WEEK, then she bought body chocolate and i could forgive her`
`02:16.07`	`Gwildor_`	`HAHAHAHA`
`02:17.06`	`adamant1988`	`body chocolate owns.`
`02:17.10`	`TuxMeister`	`ouch, you guys forget the chock thingy, i just started laughin' remebering myself covered with that brounish stuff`
`02:17.10`	`dererk`	`quidam-, somos varios`
`02:17.13`	`dererk`	`yo aun no caigo`
`02:17.29`	`adamant1988`	`BHAHAHAHAHAHA`
`02:17.46`	`adamant1988`	`TuxMeister, I'm really glad I don't have a picture of you or know what you look like`
`02:17.55`	`TuxMeister`	`it's delicious, though, you guys should try that`
`02:18.06`	`adamant1988`	`I think the visual image alone would leave me sterile for the rest of my life`
`02:18.32`	`adamant1988`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigun`
`02:18.50`	`TuxMeister`	`jajajajajaja, i don't look bad, have some gym and stuff, but nobody wants to share that with nobody (never made pictures that night, glad about that)`
`02:19.07`	`adamant1988`	`haha..`
`02:19.08`	`Gwildor_`	`hehehe`
`02:19.19`	`adamant1988`	`Just the thought of you "covered in brown stuff" is hilarious in itself.`
`02:19.37`	`TuxMeister`	`agree on that`
`02:19.39`	`TuxMeister`	`xD`
`02:19.52`	`adamant1988`	`haha`
`02:20.02`	`TuxMeister`	`she got her part though, i really had a bad time helping her wash her hair`
`02:20.23`	`adamant1988`	`BHAAHAHAHAAHAH`
`02:20.28`	`TuxMeister`	`that thing is really anoying when it dryed a bit`
`02:20.42`	`adamant1988`	`you should just change the topic now TuxMeister`
`02:20.58`	`TuxMeister`	`ok, sorry xD`
`02:21.01`	`adamant1988`	`SO.... epileptic leprechauns at a strobe light testing event...`
`02:21.09`	`adamant1988`	`That's gotta be fun right?`
`02:21.18`	`TuxMeister`	`xD nice topic change...`
`02:21.41`	`TuxMeister`	`adamant1988, you live in the states, doncha?`
`02:21.55`	`adamant1988`	`yeah. West Virginia, USA`
`02:22.47`	`TuxMeister`	`glad you're proud about that... any news about when Half Life 2: Episode 2 is released?`
`02:22.56`	`TuxMeister`	`or no idea about game arena over there?`
`02:23.03`	`adamant1988`	`http://qdb.us/18986`
`02:23.05`	`adamant1988`	`BAHAHAHAHA`
`02:23.52`	`TuxMeister`	`hahahahahahaahahha (where's the fun? xD)`
`02:24.36`	`TuxMeister`	`you see, if i got to see DBZ in romania, now i wouldn't be an ignorant`
`02:25.07`	`adamant1988`	`lol sorry`
`02:25.22`	`adamant1988`	`Everyone grunts a lot in DBZ when they're "powering up" and all that.`
`02:25.54`	`Gwildor_`	`i can answer almsot any DBZ question youd have...`
`02:25.59`	`revdjenk`	`Thanatermesis, ping`
`02:26.03`	`adamant1988`	`Gwildor, me too.`
`02:26.05`	`adamant1988`	`me too.`
`02:26.16`	`adamant1988`	`I think I just died a little inside for finally coming to terms with that`
`02:26.18`	`Gwildor_`	`prob BALL too`
`02:26.25`	`Gwildor_`	`not so much GT`
`02:26.34`	`Gwildor_`	`adamant1988, it was good stuff, jstu got played out..`
`02:26.39`	`adamant1988`	`Yeah, I know a little about GT..`
`02:26.53`	`Gwildor_`	`a little..not much, wasnt so good`
`02:27.12`	`adamant1988`	`Gwildor, yeah.. the freiza saga is only really interesting for about the first 19 times.. after that it gets a little old.`
`02:28.21`	`Gwildor_`	`no no....till he actually start fighting freeza`
`02:28.36`	`Gwildor_`	`what was really a 3 hour fight....lasted 6 months on cartoon netowrk`
`02:29.08`	`TuxMeister`	`god`
`02:29.32`	`TuxMeister`	`that waaay to long that any kid could stand in front of a tv set waitin next episode, hehe`
`02:29.35`	`revdjenk`	`Thanatermesis, what was that path again for group, passwd and shadow?`
`02:30.11`	`adamant1988`	`Gwildor, I know.. that's crazy`
`02:30.32`	`adamant1988`	`but you have to add in the commercials.`
`02:31.04`	`Gwildor_`	`yeah...was jstu wa too long....`
`02:31.17`	`Gwildor_`	`krillin is my FAV>`
`02:31.26`	`Gwildor_`	`kururin prob to you adamant1988`
`02:32.06`	`adamant1988`	`Na, I call him Krillin too`
`02:32.10`	`adamant1988`	`Vegeta owns my soul`
`02:32.13`	`adamant1988`	`He's just a badass`
`02:32.40`	`adamant1988`	`ALTHOUGH.. I think I downloaded, and jammed out to, SS2 Gohans theme music for like a year`
`02:32.52`	`adamant1988`	`you know, the music that played when he was totally handing cells ass to him?`
`02:33.35`	`adamant1988`	`SS2 Gohan was pretty narcissistic too.. it was great.`
`02:33.40`	`Gwildor_`	`it was sweet`
`02:33.44`	`adamant1988`	`Why are all my heros arrogant and narcissistic..`
`02:33.50`	`Gwildor_`	`idk, everyone like vegita...`
`02:34.01`	`adamant1988`	`No... House is my hero too`
`02:34.03`	`Gwildor_`	`krillins disk attaack owns all though`
`02:34.19`	`adamant1988`	`You know what the funniest thing ever is?`
`02:36.55`	`adamant1988`	`Letting your 4 year old sister watch a few episodes of DBZ and then listening to her try to do a kamehameha wave...`
`02:37.12`	`adamant1988`	`she had the foot movements down right...`
`02:37.25`	`adamant1988`	`but she was saying it all wrong.. it totally would have blown up in her face =\`
`02:45.36`	`Gwildor_`	`LOL`
`02:46.53`	`adamant1988`	`yeah.. it pretty much ruled Gwildor`
`02:47.01`	`adamant1988`	`OMG only two minutes left and then I will have HOUSE>`
`02:47.06`	`adamant1988`	`wait a minute...`
`02:47.19`	`adamant1988`	`where is it downloading to?`
`02:47.33`	`adamant1988`	`omg... this 2 hour download is going to turn into a day long hunt for the file..`
`02:47.44`	`Gwildor_`	`hahaha`
`02:47.49`	`Gwildor_`	shoulve went to `
`02:47.51`	`Gwildor_`	`~`
`02:47.52`	`Gwildor_`	`~/`
`02:47.55`	`apt`	`~/ is your home dir silly!, or root, of all Unix`
`02:47.59`	`adamant1988`	`yeah, that's what I'm hoping.`
`02:47.59`	`Gwildor_`	`jeez`
`02:48.05`	`adamant1988`	`apt moo`
`02:48.06`	`apt`	`mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/`
`02:48.11`	`adamant1988`	`yep, I still got it.`
`02:48.17`	`adamant1988`	`apt is my favorite bot.`
`02:48.24`	`adamant1988`	`It's much more useful than Ubotu.`
`02:48.36`	`revdjenk`	`apt dance`
`02:48.37`	`apt`	`hmm... dance is ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' elive, stayin' elive..`
`02:48.41`	`adamant1988`	`Ubotu just serves to make elitists happy that they know yet another word with ! in front of it.`
`02:49.19`	`adamant1988`	`and this ladies and gents is why qdb.us is the cure for boredom`
`02:49.22`	`adamant1988`	`<LadyLegs> i'm anal about what goes into my body`
`02:51.54`	`adamant1988`	`<Fat-Burrick> icq is a sentient being that wants to take over the world by pissing me off`
`02:54.10`	`adamant1988`	`TuxMeister, you there?`
`02:56.18`	`adamant1988`	`TuxMeister, answer me....`
`02:57.20`	`adamant1988`	`is god himself conspiring against me to keep me from watching the 3rd season of house?`
`02:57.27`	`adamant1988`	`My download has stopped at 99%`
`02:57.38`	`adamant1988`	`and TuxMeister ... he's no where to be found...`
`02:58.28`	`adamant1988`	`that last few seconds of the show could be important...`
`02:59.11`	`adamant1988`	`i'm going to have to start this download all over again, aren't I...`
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`03:07.51`	`dererk`	`apt, say hi roxville`
`03:07.53`	`apt`	`hi roxville`
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`03:07.58`	`dererk`	`apt, good bot`
`03:07.59`	`apt`	`dererk: aw, gee`
`03:09.23`	`roxville`	`:)`
`03:09.30`	`roxville`	`hi dererk and apt :)`
`03:09.45`	`roxville`	`hello Elive_user12`
`03:09.52`	`roxville`	`welcome to #elive`
`03:10.31`	`Elive_user12`	`hey, what a wonderful thing elive is`
`03:11.31`	`revdjenk`	`hee`
`03:11.47`	`roxville`	`lol`
`03:12.21`	`roxville`	`hey revdjenk ... you fooled me with the new IP... haven't gotten used to it yet`
`03:12.28`	`revdjenk`	`you are the official greeter`
`03:12.37`	`roxville`	`i try :)`
`03:12.38`	`revdjenk`	`yes...`
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`03:13.14`	`dererk`	`LinuxNIT, do you know news?`
`03:13.18`	`roxville`	`revdjenk, LinuxNIT is doing a great job at it too`
`03:13.27`	`revdjenk`	`yippee`
`03:13.37`	`LinuxNIT`	`say what?`
`03:13.37`	`roxville`	`amof, i think he's in the lead now :)`
`03:13.57`	`roxville`	`what news?`
`03:14.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`im lost`
`03:14.06`	`dererk`	`Rob Levin died`
`03:14.12`	`Gwildor_`	`rox has ALWAYS been the official greeter.....the reason im still here`
`03:14.18`	`dererk`	`aka, lilo`
`03:14.43`	`roxville`	`awwwww Gwildor kiss, kiss...`
`03:14.49`	`revdjenk`	`happy 50th b-day roxville !!! :)`
`03:14.50`	`Gwildor_`	`HAPPY BIRTHDAY TOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOO YOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuu`
`03:15.04`	`LinuxNIT`	`dererk, what news?`
`03:15.06`	`roxville`	`50th? LOL`
`03:15.09`	`quidam-`	`is roxville birthday?`
`03:15.11`	`quidam-`	`NICE¡`
`03:15.13`	`roxville`	`no... not yet... 41st`
`03:15.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`dererk, ok`
`03:15.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`dererk, oh`
`03:15.19`	`quidam-`	`HAPPY BIRTHDAY¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡`
`03:15.32`	`roxville`	`thank you, thank you :)`
`03:15.45`	`Gwildor_`	`roxville, 41!!!`
`03:15.50`	`Gwildor_`	`TY!!`
`03:15.55`	`Gwildor_`	`thats alot of fire, bud`
`03:15.57`	`revdjenk`	`yum`
`03:16.11`	`roxville`	`yeah 41... it's amaizing`
`03:16.20`	`roxville`	`i am now too old to die young...`
`03:16.22`	`revdjenk`	`the fire brigade is already moving his direction`
`03:17.13`	`roxville`	`yeah, they move my direction all the time`
`03:17.29`	`quidam-`	`roxville, are you my father? like luke and darth vader?`
`03:17.36`	`quidam-`	`i have only 20 years`
`03:17.41`	`quidam-`	`you can be my father¡`
`03:17.49`	`quidam-`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`03:18.02`	`revdjenk`	`and pales_rider could be your grandmother`
`03:18.14`	`roxville`	`quidam-, shut up!`
`03:18.23`	`dererk`	`poor pales_rider`
`03:18.26`	`pales_rider`	`WHAT!`
`03:18.37`	`revdjenk`	`I said you had nice hair`
`03:18.52`	`pales_rider`	`whos grandmother?`
`03:18.58`	`revdjenk`	`ooops`
`03:19.02`	`revdjenk`	`she can read`
`03:19.05`	`LinuxNIT`	`lol`
`03:19.13`	`roxville`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:19.20`	`dererk`	`LMAO`
`03:19.21`	`pales_rider`	`no kidding`
`03:19.28`	`revdjenk`	`and roxville is 41`
`03:19.40`	`revdjenk`	`today`
`03:19.46`	`Gwildor_`	`my MOM is only 44`
`03:19.49`	`dererk`	`sorry, HappyBirthday rox!`
`03:19.59`	`revdjenk`	`you know I love you pales_rider`
`03:20.03`	`dererk`	`I'm still shocked with this lilo's stuff`
`03:20.10`	`pales_rider`	`im not so sure anymore`
`03:20.13`	`roxville`	`ty dererk`
`03:20.13`	`quidam-`	`my MOM is only 40`
`03:20.21`	`pales_rider`	`im only 44`
`03:20.23`	`roxville`	`is she hot?`
`03:20.28`	`dererk`	`:\`
`03:20.32`	`quidam-`	`i tell you roxville, you can be my father¡`
`03:20.34`	`pales_rider`	`chris!`
`03:20.39`	`roxville`	`LOL`
`03:20.45`	`revdjenk`	`what a comment.. lol`
`03:21.12`	`dererk`	`Sorry, gotta go to kinder garden`
`03:21.13`	`dererk`	`:\|`
`03:21.18`	`roxville`	`ok quidam- i could be your father...ok?`
`03:21.23`	`roxville`	`you happy now`
`03:21.37`	`quidam-`	`like luke and darth vader?`
`03:21.41`	`roxville`	`quidam-, GO TO BED!!!`
`03:21.51`	`revdjenk`	`WAIT...I am a grandfather!`
`03:22.26`	`revdjenk`	`and my eldest grandson is 22`
`03:22.35`	`revdjenk`	`yikes quidam....!!!`
`03:22.44`	`roxville`	`LOL`
`03:22.50`	`pales_rider`	`huh?`
`03:22.55`	`pales_rider`	`man you are old`
`03:23.05`	`roxville`	`quidam-, that's the beauty of irc... age doesn't matter all that much`
`03:23.07`	`pales_rider`	`your grandson is older than my daughter`
`03:23.10`	`revdjenk`	`yep four g-kids 22 21 7 5`
`03:23.15`	`roxville`	`it's who you are inside that matters`
`03:23.16`	`revdjenk`	`yep`
`03:23.24`	`revdjenk`	`:)`
`03:23.38`	`pales_rider`	`chris its your birthday?`
`03:23.42`	`revdjenk`	`and marrying someone older who already had kids helps, too`
`03:23.45`	`roxville`	`and of course, how big your dick is`
`03:23.47`	`dererk`	`pales_rider, how old is your daughter about? O:)`
`03:23.56`	`roxville`	`but that's a given... anywhere`
`03:23.57`	`revdjenk`	`CHRIS!!`
`03:24.00`	`pales_rider`	`well not about...she IS 18`
`03:24.01`	`roxville`	`LOL`
`03:24.04`	`quidam-`	`it's who you are inside that matters <- im crying, that was beautifull`
`03:24.22`	`dererk`	`roxville, there are lads around my boy!`
`03:24.35`	`roxville`	`hehe`
`03:24.39`	`revdjenk`	`and grandsons!!`
`03:24.56`	`dererk`	`and cousins ?`
`03:24.56`	`roxville`	`:)`
`03:24.57`	`dererk`	`:P`
`03:25.15`	`roxville`	`hehe`
`03:25.19`	`dererk`	`pales_rider, could you give her my email box? O:)`
`03:25.19`	`revdjenk`	`and third cousins twice removed`
`03:25.27`	`roxville`	`and nephews`
`03:25.37`	`pales_rider`	`i could..but i wont`
`03:25.42`	`dererk`	`:/`
`03:25.45`	`revdjenk`	`LOL`
`03:26.42`	`revdjenk`	`hey guys (and gal) I have to get to bed...have work tomorrow....`
`03:26.53`	`pales_rider`	`yeah yeah`
`03:26.56`	`LinuxNIT`	`night revdjenk`
`03:26.58`	`pales_rider`	`get go be gone`
`03:26.58`	`dererk`	`what's wrong with a south american lowest income rate in the continent ? :P`
`03:27.06`	`dererk`	`:/`
`03:27.15`	`revdjenk`	`God Bless you all,...and esp you roxville on your birthday`
`03:27.16`	`pales_rider`	`lol`
`03:27.31`	`pales_rider`	`i love you to rev :)`
`03:27.36`	`revdjenk`	`hee he`
`03:27.38`	`pales_rider`	`xoxoxoxoxo`
`03:27.41`	`quidam-`	`roxville, really the irc is a nice world, you can be my father but speak like my friends :D`
`03:27.42`	`revdjenk`	`kiss kiss`
`03:27.47`	`dererk`	`:\|`
`03:27.50`	`PrinceAMD`	`hum........`
`03:27.52`	`quidam-`	`this is really nice :)`
`03:28.10`	`revdjenk`	`Feel the LOVE`
`03:28.18`	`pales_rider`	`oh yes`
`03:28.20`	`pales_rider`	`sure do`
`03:28.22`	`dererk`	`revdjenk, isn't "feed" ?`
`03:28.22`	`dererk`	`:P`
`03:28.31`	`pales_rider`	`good luck tomorrow`
`03:28.32`	`revdjenk`	`LOL`
`03:28.42`	`Gwildor_`	`Gnite guys`
`03:28.47`	`pales_rider`	`nite mark`
`03:28.50`	`revdjenk`	`thx, but no luck in it...Jan is preacing. but I am assisting`
`03:28.51`	`dererk`	`night night`
`03:29.03`	`pales_rider`	`thats the least you can do..lol`
`03:29.10`	`dererk`	`revdjenk, you see`
`03:29.23`	`dererk`	`She's even that with her daughet too :\|`
`03:29.29`	`dererk`	`anyway`
`03:29.33`	`revdjenk`	`hee hee`
`03:34.37`	`roxville`	`good night Gwildor`
`03:34.55`	`roxville`	`i had to get some cake... haven't had ANY until now...`
`03:36.08`	`pales_rider`	`coffee?`
`03:37.17`	`pales_rider`	`can i have a shot in mine?`
`03:38.22`	`roxville`	`sure... but we only have red bull... you sure you want red bull in your coffee?`
`03:38.31`	`pales_rider`	`ummm no`
`03:38.36`	`roxville`	`lol`
`03:39.27`	`pales_rider`	`mmm now there ya go`
`03:39.39`	`roxville`	`:)`
`03:43.05`	`pales_rider`	`and pales_rider makes a toast to roxville ... Happy Birthday to my friend Chris, And many happy returns. Always remember to breath in faith and exhale fear. Hope it's a great year for you!`
`03:43.42`	`roxville`	`thx :)`
`03:44.56`	`adamant1988`	`w00t`
`03:44.56`	`adamant1988`	`that episode of house rocked`
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`03:52.17`	`Elive_user45`	`moin`
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`04:01.33`	`adamant1988`	`Yay PrinceAMD`
`04:02.02`	`PrinceAMD`	`adamant1988: yep i geting old :)`
`04:02.28`	`adamant1988`	`you're one year closer to your death now`
`04:02.31`	`adamant1988`	`I'm proud of you`
`04:02.44`	`PrinceAMD`	`thank u so much`
`04:02.50`	`PrinceAMD`	`that means alot to me :)`
`04:02.57`	`adamant1988`	`I'm glad`
`04:03.10`	`PrinceAMD`	`good`
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`04:03.35`	`PrinceAMD`	`hum i dont feel different`
`04:03.39`	`PrinceAMD`	`something is missing`
`04:03.55`	`adamant1988`	`PrinceAMD, how old are you?`
`04:04.04`	`PrinceAMD`	`18 finally`
`04:04.11`	`adamant1988`	`oh, I know what it is then`
`04:04.19`	`adamant1988`	`go out and buy a pack of cigarettes.`
`04:04.23`	`adamant1988`	`it doesn't matter if you smoke`
`04:04.25`	`adamant1988`	`just buy them out of spite`
`04:04.34`	`PrinceAMD`	`lol`
`04:04.35`	`adamant1988`	`go and wave your 18 year old ness around.`
`04:04.49`	`adamant1988`	`just don't do it at anyone under 16... that turns ugly quick`
`04:04.53`	`PrinceAMD`	`shue but i smoked abit today`
`04:05.03`	`PrinceAMD`	`lol`
`04:05.23`	`adamant1988`	`you wanted my opinion and now you're back sassing me`
`04:05.29`	`adamant1988`	`god you teenage girls are so moody`
`04:05.48`	`PrinceAMD`	`what the fuck!`
`04:05.59`	`PrinceAMD`	`"rince"`
`04:06.06`	`adamant1988`	`yes, you rinse your hair alot`
`04:06.07`	`adamant1988`	`we know`
`04:06.08`	`PrinceAMD`	`not PrinceSS!`
`04:06.18`	`PrinceAMD`	`lol`
`04:06.30`	`adamant1988`	`you've already proved you can't spell and NOW i'm supposed to trust you?`
`04:06.45`	`PrinceAMD`	`lol`
`04:07.03`	`adamant1988`	`I'll get you a dolly for your birthday`
`04:07.14`	`PrinceAMD`	`u'r 18 or going to be soon?`
`04:07.33`	`adamant1988`	`I am 18`
`04:07.39`	`PrinceAMD`	`thanks alot can u make a dolly modules for e17 that would be really nice`
`04:07.43`	`PrinceAMD`	`girl or boy?`
`04:07.45`	`adamant1988`	`and no we can not 'hook up' as you crazy youngsters say`
`04:08.01`	`adamant1988`	`does it really matter in todays age?`
`04:08.34`	`adamant1988`	`all guys are taught that they'll never get laid unless they lose the penis and develop emotions... so I would assume that we're all really females on the inside.`
`04:08.46`	`adamant1988`	`except for me... I just don't belong.`
`04:08.50`	`adamant1988`	`because I'm a smart ass.`
`04:09.07`	`adamant1988`	`Dear god... look at the packages download.`
`04:09.23`	`PrinceAMD`	`lol`
`04:09.52`	`PrinceAMD`	`do you have mixed feelings`
`04:09.56`	`PrinceAMD`	`about your gender?`
`04:10.17`	`PrinceAMD`	`and no i dont want to hook up`
`04:11.21`	`adamant1988`	`not really... i'm a guy.. I'm sure I'm a guy`
`04:11.25`	`adamant1988`	`I like porn too much not to be.`
`04:12.11`	`adamant1988`	`I just happen to have to deal with every single female member of my family being a hard core feminist... you could understand how I could be cynical about these things.. lol`
`04:13.34`	`PrinceAMD`	`i guess`
`04:13.44`	`PrinceAMD`	`just dont change over night :)`
`04:14.45`	`adamant1988`	`no the surgeries usually happen over a course of months`
`04:14.51`	`adamant1988`	`wait a minute`
`04:14.53`	`adamant1988`	`you tricked me...`
`04:14.55`	`adamant1988`	`bastard.`
`04:20.16`	`PrinceAMD`	`lol`
`04:33.19`	`PrinceAMD`	`adamant1988: what u up too...porn?`
`04:35.09`	`adamant1988`	`more like tyringto install a very large meta package`
`04:39.04`	`PrinceAMD`	`what package is that adamant1988,`
`04:40.32`	`adamant1988`	`kubuntu desktop`
`04:40.41`	`adamant1988`	`it just finished installing actually`
`04:46.46`	`dererk`	`el chicho tiene la risa facil, ha`
`04:48.31`	`PrinceAMD`	`ok`
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`04:56.01`	`SuperpeZ`	`hello`
`04:56.06`	`dererk`	`welcome`
`04:56.13`	`SuperpeZ`	`how are you dererk`
`04:56.22`	`dererk`	`doing fine, thanks`
`04:56.34`	`dererk`	`and u?`
`04:56.53`	`SuperpeZ`	`well here is time for sleep`
`04:57.04`	`SuperpeZ`	`I have now go to sleep`
`04:57.11`	`dererk`	`which is that time ?`
`04:57.20`	`SuperpeZ`	`06.57`
`04:57.24`	`dererk`	`oh`
`04:57.38`	`dererk`	`it's too early`
`04:57.39`	`dererk`	`:)`
`04:57.51`	`SuperpeZ`	`yes, I was drinking some beers`
`04:57.57`	`dererk`	`cool`
`04:57.58`	`SuperpeZ`	`and dancing`
`04:58.01`	`SuperpeZ`	`heheeh`
`04:58.05`	`dererk`	`I'm not old enough for that`
`04:58.25`	`SuperpeZ`	`well I only do this sometimes like today`
`04:58.42`	`dererk`	`thats great!`
`04:58.49`	`SuperpeZ`	`the next time I don't go to do this`
`04:59.01`	`SuperpeZ`	`well, next time is next week`
`04:59.17`	`dererk`	`I would if my liver could support it`
`04:59.44`	`Elive_user`	`one funny place to hangout`
`05:00.19`	`SuperpeZ`	`good way`
`05:00.31`	`SuperpeZ`	`well my way now is the bed`
`05:00.34`	`SuperpeZ`	`good night`
`05:00.40`	`dererk`	`have good dreams`
`05:00.51`	`SuperpeZ`	`thanks`
`05:00.56`	`SuperpeZ`	`:)`
`05:00.58`	`dererk`	`your welcome`
`05:01.21`	`dererk`	`nice guy`
`05:01.40`	`dererk`	`came just to say that he was having fun and drinking beers :/`
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`05:22.27`	`BRainsTorm`	`sup all`
`05:23.15`	`BRainsTorm`	`anyone here on ubuntu?`
`05:23.38`	`BRainsTorm`	`goodness is even the bot asleep?`
`05:24.06`	`BRainsTorm`	`ok nobody here wanna chat.`
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`05:30.59`	`lontra`	`hi Thanatermesis`
`05:36.05`	`lontra`	`hello?`
`05:44.18`	`lontra`	`oh my Thanatermesis is not allowed to sleep`
`05:44.23`	`lontra`	`hola?`
`05:44.25`	`lontra`	`h?`
`05:44.53`	`caim`	`zzZZzzZZ`
`05:44.56`	`caim`	`xD`
`05:45.28`	`lontra`	`apt: sleep`
`05:45.29`	`apt`	`i guess sleep is overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine.`
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`05:47.05`	`Elive_user25`	`?`
`05:50.14`	`GPLGeek`	`lontra, hola`
`05:50.21`	`GPLGeek`	`lontra, What's up?`
`05:50.36`	`GPLGeek`	`Thana's not sleeping he just passed out =p`
`06:16.08`	`dererk`	`that's not fucking funny`
`06:17.38`	`caim`	`xDDDD`
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`08:38.53`	`fluid21_7`	`Hi guys, my X-chat is complaining about not being able to connect to a session bus, although the dbus-daemon seems to be running. Any tips?`
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`11:34.25`	`bentejuy`	`hi!`
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`13:32.16`	`SuperpeZ`	`hello`
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`14:30.55`	`bodha`	`coucous tous`
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`14:59.02`	`Elive_user`	`hello`
`14:59.08`	`Elive_user`	`ciaooo`
`14:59.11`	`Elive_user`	`italian???`
`14:59.12`	`wasynyt`	`good day`
`14:59.18`	`Elive_user`	`hi`
`14:59.18`	`wasynyt`	`nope finnish ;D`
`14:59.29`	`Elive_user`	`you no speack italian`
`14:59.38`	`wasynyt`	`not a word..`
`14:59.40`	`wasynyt`	`:/`
`14:59.42`	`Elive_user`	`ok`
`14:59.53`	`Elive_user`	`where are u from`
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`14:59.58`	`wasynyt`	`but i would like that you change your nick`
`15:00.09`	`wasynyt`	`i am from finland.. town/city called mikkeli`
`15:00.14`	`Elive_user`	`1 minute change a nick`
`15:00.18`	`wasynyt`	`ok`
`15:00.20`	`wasynyt`	`great`
`15:00.48`	`wasynyt`	`it is just great to talk to persons who have real names and not that deafault...`
`15:01.34`	`Elive_user`	`how change a nick`
`15:01.35`	`Elive_user`	`?`
`15:01.54`	`wasynyt`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:03.16`	`wasynyt`	`any succes ?`
`15:03.17`	`Elive_user`	`no found`
`15:03.34`	`wasynyt`	`type /nick me`
`15:03.55`	`Elive_user`	`where is type`
`15:04.13`	`wasynyt`	`ahh`
`15:04.29`	`wasynyt`	`i mean write here /nick new_nick`
`15:04.45`	`wasynyt`	`type = press buttons`
`15:05.32`	`wasynyt`	`heh you did it :D`
`15:05.36`	`wasynyt`	`now a better nick`
`15:05.37`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`15:05.52`	`new_nick`	`ok`
`15:05.57`	`new_nick`	`no`
`15:05.58`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`15:06.06`	`wasynyt`	`how do you like elive`
`15:06.18`	`salvo`	`ok`
`15:06.21`	`wasynyt`	`great`
`15:06.24`	`salvo`	`this is my name`
`15:06.38`	`wasynyt`	`ok`
`15:06.53`	`salvo`	`what your name`
`15:06.57`	`wasynyt`	`my name is timo`
`15:07.04`	`salvo`	`ok timo`
`15:07.21`	`salvo`	`from i italy and u?`
`15:07.28`	`wasynyt`	`from finland`
`15:07.31`	`salvo`	`o`
`15:07.33`	`salvo`	`k`
`15:07.36`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`15:07.52`	`salvo`	`like finland beutiful country`
`15:08.12`	`wasynyt`	`yeah i think it is`
`15:08.18`	`salvo`	`how u use elive`
`15:08.36`	`wasynyt`	`no.. i dont use elive at the moment`
`15:08.42`	`wasynyt`	`but i have used it`
`15:08.45`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`15:08.47`	`salvo`	`ok`
`15:08.55`	`salvo`	`and like u elive?`
`15:09.01`	`wasynyt`	`yeah`
`15:09.05`	`salvo`	`ok`
`15:09.09`	`wasynyt`	`i think it is a great thing..`
`15:09.16`	`salvo`	`this is the first installation`
`15:09.26`	`salvo`	`i use debian sarge`
`15:09.28`	`wasynyt`	`and everything going well`
`15:09.32`	`wasynyt`	`ok`
`15:09.37`	`salvo`	`and u`
`15:09.43`	`salvo`	`known debian`
`15:09.45`	`salvo`	`?`
`15:09.54`	`wasynyt`	`yeah i know it`
`15:10.02`	`salvo`	`ok`
`15:10.16`	`salvo`	`i have one problem`
`15:10.16`	`wasynyt`	`but i dont actually like it that much... dont know why`
`15:10.23`	`wasynyt`	`k`
`15:10.26`	`wasynyt`	`tell me`
`15:10.46`	`salvo`	`i dont visual java sun machine in other chat?`
`15:10.53`	`salvo`	`and not found`
`15:10.57`	`wasynyt`	`hmm`
`15:10.57`	`salvo`	`the package`
`15:11.00`	`salvo`	`far java`
`15:11.10`	`salvo`	`u know the pakage`
`15:11.24`	`salvo`	`for java virtual sun`
`15:11.32`	`wasynyt`	`hmm not sure`
`15:11.50`	`salvo`	`i use synaptic`
`15:12.02`	`wasynyt`	`k`
`15:12.05`	`salvo`	`but install java not delete the problem`
`15:12.14`	`wasynyt`	`and you cant find it from there ?`
`15:12.24`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`15:12.41`	`salvo`	`ok`
`15:12.43`	`salvo`	`never`
`15:12.56`	`wasynyt`	`huh`
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`15:12.57`	`salvo`	`i chat whit other o.s`
`15:13.03`	`wasynyt`	`hmm`
`15:13.06`	`salvo`	`hi david`
`15:13.12`	`salvo`	`age?`
`15:13.17`	`wasynyt`	`good afternoon david__`
`15:13.20`	`wasynyt`	`mine ?`
`15:13.46`	`salvo`	`how old are u?`
`15:13.58`	`wasynyt`	`19`
`15:14.03`	`salvo`	`i 23`
`15:14.10`	`salvo`	`u work?`
`15:14.17`	`wasynyt`	`nope..`
`15:14.23`	`wasynyt`	`at the moment i am in army`
`15:14.28`	`salvo`	`ok`
`15:14.44`	`wasynyt`	`and after it more studying`
`15:15.01`	`salvo`	`inegneer`
`15:15.09`	`wasynyt`	`k`
`15:15.37`	`salvo`	`time in finland?`
`15:16.06`	`wasynyt`	`18:14`
`15:16.37`	`salvo`	`here 1716`
`15:16.44`	`wasynyt`	`ok`
`15:16.56`	`wasynyt`	`2 minutes difference in our clocks :D`
`15:17.08`	`salvo`	`iea`
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`15:17.40`	`salvo`	`snow?`
`15:17.56`	`salvo`	`how o.s use u?`
`15:17.57`	`wasynyt`	`not yet`
`15:18.08`	`wasynyt`	`i use macos at the moment`
`15:18.14`	`salvo`	`ok`
`15:18.31`	`salvo`	`how city u`
`15:18.37`	`salvo`	`arer`
`15:18.41`	`wasynyt`	`i am in joensuu at the moment`
`15:18.55`	`salvo`	`i from palermo`
`15:18.58`	`salvo`	`sicily`
`15:18.58`	`wasynyt`	`k`
`15:19.06`	`wasynyt`	`is it cold in there`
`15:19.43`	`salvo`	`no`
`15:20.38`	`salvo`	`ok`
`15:20.41`	`salvo`	`i quit`
`15:20.53`	`wasynyt`	`ok`
`15:20.57`	`wasynyt`	`see you later`
`15:21.02`	`salvo`	`ok`
`15:21.07`	`salvo`	`bye`
`15:21.11`	`wasynyt`	`bye`
`15:21.17`	`salvo`	`thjank for information`
`15:21.24`	`salvo`	`bye bye`
`15:21.26`	`wasynyt`	`you are welcome`
`15:21.42`	`salvo`	`bye`
`15:21.46`	`wasynyt`	`bye`
`15:27.03`	`egrub`	`apt x en es sea of fear`
`15:27.23`	`wasynyt`	`good evening egrub`
`15:27.24`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`15:28.43`	`egrub`	`xD`
`15:29.19`	`egrub`	`apt x es en buenos días`
`15:29.35`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`15:29.39`	`wasynyt`	`how are you doing`
`15:29.47`	`wasynyt`	`and how is elive doing`
`15:30.23`	`egrub`	`Estoy comiendo quesos y bajando peliculas.`
`15:30.24`	`egrub`	`xD`
`15:30.56`	`wasynyt`	`apt es en Estoy comiendo quesos y bajando peliculas.`
`15:31.21`	`wasynyt`	`apt x es en Estoy comiendo quesos y bajando peliculas.`
`15:31.31`	`egrub`	`:)`
`15:31.32`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`15:31.33`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`15:31.51`	`egrub`	`peliculas = movies`
`15:31.58`	`wasynyt`	`ok`
`15:32.17`	`wasynyt`	`so you are not doing anything`
`15:32.18`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`15:32.42`	`dererk`	`wasynyt, you stink to cheese`
`15:32.43`	`egrub`	`Hehe`
`15:32.50`	`dererk`	`that's the translation`
`15:33.00`	`wasynyt`	`huh`
`15:33.26`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`15:34.09`	`dererk`	`the right translation was "you stink like rotten cheese, just like movies"`
`15:34.17`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`15:34.19`	`dererk`	`:D`
`15:34.28`	`wasynyt`	`apt bad bot`
`15:34.29`	`apt`	`Bad bot, bad! No cookie for you!`
`15:34.30`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`15:34.42`	`dererk`	`ha`
`15:34.44`	`wasynyt`	`good evening to you too dererk`
`15:34.45`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`15:34.57`	`dererk`	`morning dude`
`15:35.10`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`15:35.15`	`wasynyt`	`how is elive doing`
`15:35.33`	`dererk`	`about to release a stable 0.5`
`15:35.50`	`wasynyt`	`hmm that is nice`
`15:35.55`	`wasynyt`	`and i cant try it`
`15:36.06`	`dererk`	`a paid one, afaik`
`15:36.31`	`wasynyt`	`huh ?`
`15:37.11`	`dererk`	`what you read`
`15:37.25`	`wasynyt`	`?`
`15:37.58`	`dererk`	`I said everything I could, but couln'd make thana to change his mind about that matter`
`15:38.04`	`dererk`	`I understand him though`
`15:38.06`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`15:38.15`	`wasynyt`	`so he is forcing this release`
`15:39.55`	`wasynyt`	`or ?`
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`15:39.56`	`dererk`	`forcing ?`
`15:39.56`	`wasynyt`	`good evening sinplomo`
`15:40.05`	`wasynyt`	`dererk, i dont understand......`
`15:40.22`	`dererk`	`what don't you?`
`15:40.43`	`sinplomo`	`hi all`
`15:40.51`	`wasynyt`	`hi`
`15:41.37`	`wasynyt`	`so thana is going to release 0.5 stable.. an it is a "paid one" ? :S and you tried to change his mind about it`
`15:41.50`	`dererk`	`yes`
`15:41.52`	`wasynyt`	`so what does this paid one mean`
`15:42.25`	`dererk`	`anyway, If you give 1 euro or less you are able to download it`
`15:42.47`	`wasynyt`	`so he want's money for it ?`
`15:43.03`	`wasynyt`	`what about us who dont have credit cards`
`15:43.33`	`dererk`	`that was exactly what I told him`
`15:43.50`	`wasynyt`	`*:D`
`15:44.33`	`dererk`	`but well, you've to understand that too, yes didn't receive a wooden nickel in Elive's donation system`
`15:44.42`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`15:44.56`	`wasynyt`	`this will make impossible it for me to use elive.. or even try it`
`15:44.57`	`wasynyt`	`:S`
`15:45.05`	`wasynyt`	`Thanatermesis, !!!!!!!!!!`
`15:45.26`	`dererk`	`he's not currently online I think`
`15:45.42`	`wasynyt`	`Thanatermesis, ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE ELIVE LIKE WINDOWS ?`
`15:45.47`	`wasynyt`	`well he might be`
`15:48.00`	`wasynyt`	`but i hope he is not going to do what i fearr`
`15:48.04`	`wasynyt`	`*fear`
`15:52.48`	`wasynyt`	`but i think that thana wont go that far`
`15:52.55`	`wasynyt`	`but waht do i know`
`15:52.58`	`wasynyt`	`*what`
`15:54.00`	`dererk`	`I think he would make a stable realise paid`
`15:54.07`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`15:54.10`	`dererk`	`and the pre stables free, as the still are`
`15:54.15`	`wasynyt`	`that is not good`
`15:54.31`	`wasynyt`	`if he does that it will my bye bye for elive`
`15:54.45`	`dererk`	`that was what i told him too`
`15:54.56`	`wasynyt`	`hmm`
`15:55.33`	`wasynyt`	`i sont get.. why doesnt he get it that many of us cant pay a thing.. even if we would like`
`15:56.40`	`dererk`	`well, as I said`
`15:56.45`	`dererk`	`you've to understand him to`
`15:56.46`	`wasynyt`	`yeah i know`
`15:56.59`	`dererk`	`I do, but I don't share his point of view`
`15:57.03`	`wasynyt`	`ohh well`
`15:57.11`	`wasynyt`	`i want to talk with him`
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`16:32.32`	`wasynyt`	`good evening Elive_user5`
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`16:32.52`	`wasynyt`	`good evening Elive_user80`
`16:35.22`	`Elive_user80`	`hallo, i want to know the version of my elive live CD. HELP me`
`16:35.32`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`16:37.35`	`wasynyt`	`do uname -a`
`16:38.22`	`wasynyt`	`so Elive_user80 in console uname -a`
`16:39.57`	`Elive_user80`	`thank you vasynyt - command ok`
`16:40.08`	`wasynyt`	`what is the result`
`16:40.12`	`wasynyt`	`paste it here`
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`16:41.42`	`Elive_user80`	`thank you vasynyt - command ok - but the result is the kernel number and no the elive cd version`
`16:41.56`	`wasynyt`	`yeah that is the solution`
`16:41.58`	`wasynyt`	`...`
`16:42.03`	`wasynyt`	`give me the result`
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`16:42.41`	`wasynyt`	`good evening Elive_user`
`16:44.00`	`Elive_user80`	`thank you vasynyt - command ok - but the result is the kernel number and no the elive cd version`
`16:44.38`	`Elive_user80`	`the lastest cd version is 0.4.2`
`16:44.54`	`wasynyt`	`nope...`
`16:45.13`	`wasynyt`	`most reasent is 0.5 unstable`
`16:45.14`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`16:45.31`	`Elive_user80`	`i use the stable`
`16:45.37`	`wasynyt`	`ahh then`
`16:45.51`	`wasynyt`	`0.4.2 is the choice`
`16:46.22`	`Elive_user80`	`yes`
`16:46.52`	`wasynyt`	`hmm`
`16:47.09`	`Elive_user80`	`but i have two ol cd but i don't know the versions`
`16:47.26`	`Elive_user80`	`ol = old`
`16:47.37`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`16:48.04`	`wasynyt`	`i am not sure why you should even hold on those old cd's`
`16:48.50`	`Elive_user80`	`the download of version 0.4.2 is running`
`16:49.12`	`wasynyt`	`k`
`16:49.13`	`Elive_user80`	`in this moment i use an old version`
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`16:49.34`	`wasynyt`	`good evening Gwildor`
`16:49.38`	`wasynyt`	`good evening Gwildor__`
`16:50.10`	`wasynyt`	`-> food`
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`16:51.03`	`adamant1988`	`meow`
`16:51.07`	`adamant1988`	`hello all`
`16:51.19`	`adamant1988`	`wasynyt, WAKE UP`
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`17:01.47`	`Elive_user80`	`Elive_user55 - the second elive cd - hallo, i want to know the version of my elive live CD. HELP me`
`17:04.03`	`Elive_user55`	`Elive_user55 = Elive_user80`
`17:04.21`	`Elive_user80`	`Elive_user55 = Elive_user80`
`17:05.03`	`Elive_user80`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:06.22`	`bentejuy`	`Elive_user80, cat /etc/elive-version`
`17:08.40`	`Elive_user80`	`bentejuy> Elive_user80, cat /etc/elive-version`
`17:09.39`	`Elive_user80`	`result: elive-version: 0.5-developement-beta1 --- Thank YOU`
`17:10.06`	`bentejuy`	`;)`
`17:14.16`	`wasynyt`	`yes adamant1988`
`17:14.22`	`wasynyt`	`good evening adamant1988`
`17:14.27`	`wasynyt`	`how are you doing`
`17:14.40`	`adamant1988`	`I am good.`
`17:14.47`	`adamant1988`	`yawn`
`17:14.56`	`wasynyt`	`huh ?`
`17:14.58`	`wasynyt`	`sleepy`
`17:15.30`	`wasynyt`	`?`
`17:16.03`	`wasynyt`	`what have you been doing while i have been away`
`17:16.10`	`adamant1988`	`Spreading Ubuntu :)`
`17:16.16`	`wasynyt`	`and have you heard about thanas reasent plans`
`17:16.25`	`adamant1988`	`removing fstab?`
`17:16.25`	`wasynyt`	`you damned ;P`
`17:16.30`	`wasynyt`	`nope`
`17:16.59`	`wasynyt`	`making elive to cost`
`17:17.04`	`adamant1988`	`oh yeah?`
`17:17.10`	`adamant1988`	`he's gonna try selling elive?`
`17:17.36`	`wasynyt`	`that's something i heard`
`17:17.54`	`adamant1988`	`that sounds pretty nifty.`
`17:17.59`	`adamant1988`	`I hope he sees some success with that.`
`17:18.05`	`wasynyt`	`hmm`
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`17:20.12`	`adamant1988`	`so how have you been wasynyt`
`17:20.51`	`wasynyt`	`i have been very sleepy.. i spent last week in forrest`
`17:20.53`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
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`17:22.07`	`adamant1988`	`oh yeah? nifty... still doing the military thing?`
`17:23.59`	`wasynyt`	`still doing ?`
`17:24.04`	`wasynyt`	`it lasts a year`
`17:24.06`	`wasynyt`	`remember`
`17:24.07`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:24.37`	`adamant1988`	`sure`
`17:24.41`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`17:24.44`	`adamant1988`	`Revdjenk moved into my town btw`
`17:24.54`	`wasynyt`	`really that?s nice :D`
`17:25.05`	`wasynyt`	`*that's`
`17:25.08`	`adamant1988`	`yeah, I've met him a couple times so far`
`17:25.50`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:26.31`	`adamant1988`	`omg lol`
`17:26.33`	`adamant1988`	`Lotach: earlier today at work, I took some confectionary sugar and laid it out in a thin line, then left a straw next to it and walked away`
`17:26.52`	`wasynyt`	`huh ?`
`17:27.08`	`wasynyt`	`that sounds like a nasty joke`
`17:27.10`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:27.24`	`wasynyt`	`someone's going to suffer for that`
`17:27.26`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:28.03`	`wasynyt`	`but how is the linux world.. anything has happened`
`17:28.04`	`wasynyt`	`?`
`17:28.16`	`adamant1988`	`uhm`
`17:28.21`	`adamant1988`	`suse made a kickass new KDE menu`
`17:28.44`	`wasynyt`	`in the business version ?`
`17:29.30`	`adamant1988`	`I guess`
`17:29.46`	`wasynyt`	`that is old news.. i have seen that age's ago`
`17:29.56`	`wasynyt`	`there must have been something else`
`17:30.10`	`adamant1988`	`no`
`17:30.12`	`adamant1988`	`this is very new`
`17:30.17`	`adamant1988`	`you're talking about the slab.`
`17:30.25`	`adamant1988`	`the slab is the gnome new menu`
`17:30.38`	`adamant1988`	`kickoff is the menu for KDE and it's pretty new`
`17:30.43`	`wasynyt`	`ahh`
`17:30.46`	`wasynyt`	`link ?`
`17:32.02`	`adamant1988`	`uhmm...`
`17:32.06`	`adamant1988`	`uno momento`
`17:32.16`	`adamant1988`	`http://home.kde.org/~binner/kickoff/sneak_preview.html`
`17:33.01`	`wasynyt`	`ahh.. that's nice`
`17:33.03`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:33.37`	`wasynyt`	`i like that idea.. the best menu i know`
`17:34.11`	`adamant1988`	`yeah`
`17:34.18`	`adamant1988`	`it's almost exactly like the one in vista though.`
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`17:34.46`	`wasynyt`	`dunno...`
`17:35.00`	`wasynyt`	`i thinkt that vista's menu is not as well done as that..`
`17:35.04`	`wasynyt`	`but that is just me`
`17:35.38`	`adamant1988`	`ok`
`17:35.42`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`17:36.16`	`wasynyt`	`well i dont actually fancy vista that much`
`17:36.52`	`wasynyt`	`i just think that it is what xp should have been`
`17:37.43`	`adamant1988`	`true that`
`17:37.52`	`adamant1988`	`XP wasn't too bad though.. it just sucked.`
`17:37.56`	`wasynyt`	`yeah`
`17:38.07`	`wasynyt`	`it is average in everything`
`17:38.16`	`wasynyt`	`it is just that that is not enough`
`17:39.41`	`adamant1988`	`yeah, I agree`
`17:39.49`	`adamant1988`	`I <3 the linux too much`
`17:39.55`	`adamant1988`	`although I'm really liking what I see in PC-BSD`
`17:40.38`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`17:40.45`	`wasynyt`	`i have not tried bsd`
`17:40.53`	`wasynyt`	`but i think it might be a good os too`
`17:40.54`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:43.03`	`adamant1988`	`it's pretty much just like linux`
`17:43.13`	`adamant1988`	`but PC-BSD has pbi which is a lot like .exe`
`17:44.33`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`17:44.59`	`wasynyt`	`that sounds rather good`
`17:46.29`	`adamant1988`	`yeah, it's pretty nifty`
`17:46.40`	`wasynyt`	`but does it create same problems that xp suffers`
`17:46.43`	`wasynyt`	`:S`
`17:47.20`	`adamant1988`	`not really`
`17:47.32`	`wasynyt`	`hmm`
`17:47.34`	`adamant1988`	`it doesn't have near the security loop holes.`
`17:47.47`	`wasynyt`	`well bsd is notoriously secure`
`17:47.49`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:48.13`	`adamant1988`	`exactly :)`
`17:48.19`	`adamant1988`	`anywho.. I'm off to shower.`
`17:48.33`	`wasynyt`	`ok`
`17:48.34`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
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`17:51.05`	`wasynyt`	`welcome back salvo`
`17:51.48`	`salvo`	`hii`
`17:52.52`	`wasynyt`	`huh ?`
`17:53.03`	`wasynyt`	`:S`
`17:53.10`	`wasynyt`	`*wonders`
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`17:56.22`	`lontra`	`hi`
`17:56.25`	`wasynyt`	`good evening lontra`
`17:56.26`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
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`17:56.30`	`wasynyt`	`how are you doing`
`17:56.38`	`lontra`	`good how are you?`
`17:56.52`	`wasynyt`	`i am doing fine`
`17:57.11`	`lontra`	`:)`
`17:57.16`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:58.02`	`lontra`	`i forget...are you in norway or sweden?`
`17:58.09`	`wasynyt`	`not either`
`17:58.13`	`wasynyt`	`finland`
`17:58.17`	`wasynyt`	`that one in army`
`17:58.17`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:58.56`	`lontra`	`oh yeah`
`17:58.59`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:59.00`	`lontra`	`:D`
`17:59.00`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`17:59.03`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`17:59.11`	`wasynyt`	`my nick should show it...`
`17:59.19`	`wasynyt`	`there is none like it here`
`17:59.20`	`wasynyt`	`D:`
`17:59.23`	`lontra`	`oh yeah .fi :)`
`17:59.56`	`lontra`	`how's the army treating you?`
`17:59.57`	`adamant1988`	`back.. f00s`
`18:01.18`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`18:01.22`	`wasynyt`	`that is no suprise`
`18:01.41`	`wasynyt`	`most finnish men do`
`18:01.41`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:01.41`	`wasynyt`	`army is treating me well`
`18:01.52`	`lontra`	`it gives finnish men something to talk about, eh :)`
`18:02.13`	`adamant1988`	`your bed time prayers are like`
`18:02.22`	`adamant1988`	`"Our lord, who art in finland....`
`18:02.49`	`wasynyt`	`we dont have prayers`
`18:02.51`	`lontra`	`hallowed by thy saunas`
`18:02.51`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:03.01`	`lontra`	`hallowed be thy saunas`
`18:03.05`	`lontra`	`excuse me :D`
`18:03.12`	`adamant1988`	`uhm...`
`18:03.45`	`wasynyt`	`huh`
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`18:04.20`	`IcedEarth`	`help`
`18:04.22`	`IcedEarth`	`whats the name of the menu editor`
`18:04.26`	`IcedEarth`	`ive clean forgotten`
`18:04.30`	`IcedEarth`	`and cant find it anywhere`
`18:04.33`	`lontra`	`oh it's the our father or i guess the lord's prayer`
`18:04.55`	`lontra`	`18 years of catholicism forced me to memorize it :S`
`18:04.57`	`wasynyt`	`humm could be`
`18:05.03`	`wasynyt`	`huh`
`18:05.04`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:05.17`	`lontra`	`and 8 years after i still remember it :p`
`18:05.27`	`lontra`	`:D`
`18:05.47`	`lontra`	`he he`
`18:05.48`	`IcedEarth`	`help`
`18:06.00`	`Elive_user80`	`bye`
`18:06.03`	`lontra`	`!elpanel`
`18:06.10`	`wasynyt`	`nope`
`18:06.22`	`lontra`	`IcedEarth: use the elpanel`
`18:06.26`	`wasynyt`	`i have not used elive in few months`
`18:06.30`	`IcedEarth`	`thanks`
`18:06.40`	`IcedEarth`	`i use it every day and have not changed my icons for an eon`
`18:06.43`	`lontra`	`wasynyt: are you waiting for 0.5 stable?`
`18:06.44`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`18:06.45`	`IcedEarth`	`and have just plain forgot everything`
`18:06.55`	`wasynyt`	`lontra, i heard some bad things about it`
`18:07.04`	`lontra`	`about 0.5?`
`18:07.07`	`lontra`	`or elive?`
`18:07.15`	`wasynyt`	`i heard that thana might make it to cost`
`18:07.16`	`wasynyt`	`:S`
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`18:07.28`	`lontra`	`really?`
`18:07.31`	`wasynyt`	`yeah`
`18:07.48`	`IcedEarth`	`entangle thats it`
`18:07.51`	`lontra`	`oh well if it started to cost money i wouldn't use it...i'd just use debian sid with e17 :p`
`18:08.18`	`lontra`	`but...i can understand he wants to get paid to work on his project`
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`18:09.43`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
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`18:10.59`	`wasynyt`	`well i think that it will be the end of me and elive`
`18:11.01`	`wasynyt`	`:/`
`18:12.04`	`wasynyt`	`welcome back caim`
`18:12.16`	`IcedEarth`	`does anyone use azuerus here?`
`18:12.35`	`wasynyt`	`i use it`
`18:12.39`	`caim`	`wasynyt, thanks`
`18:12.41`	`IcedEarth`	`when you start if`
`18:12.44`	`caim`	`i do`
`18:12.51`	`IcedEarth`	`does the window get stuck in the top left hand corner`
`18:12.56`	`IcedEarth`	`and is really small?`
`18:13.05`	`IcedEarth`	`and you have to make it big each time you start`
`18:13.35`	`caim`	`IcedEarth, no`
`18:14.01`	`wasynyt`	`well azureus has a lot of problems`
`18:14.02`	`wasynyt`	`:S`
`18:14.08`	`IcedEarth`	`it works okay`
`18:14.10`	`IcedEarth`	`just when it starts`
`18:14.19`	`IcedEarth`	`maybe i can tell the window to remain a certain size`
`18:15.23`	`wasynyt`	`you can in kde at least`
`18:15.24`	`wasynyt`	`:S`
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`18:16.39`	`wasynyt`	`welcome back adamant1988`
`18:16.44`	`adamant1988`	`thanks :)`
`18:17.38`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
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`18:18.33`	`wasynyt`	`good evening H`
`18:18.44`	`H`	`hi wasynyt`
`18:19.02`	`H`	`supongo que es el boot pero bueno`
`18:19.47`	`wasynyt`	`apt x es en supongo que es el boot pero bueno`
`18:19.56`	`wasynyt`	`huh`
`18:21.45`	`caim`	`H, ?`
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`18:32.36`	`H`	`dime`
`18:33.12`	`H`	`i see wasynyt is not a boot`
`18:33.16`	`H`	`sorry`
`18:33.30`	`H`	`lot of times here i find a boot making noise`
`18:33.39`	`H`	`dime caim`
`18:34.05`	`wasynyt`	`huh`
`18:34.08`	`H`	`i have bad memory for nicks wasynyt`
`18:34.11`	`H`	`sorry`
`18:34.12`	`wasynyt`	`you mean bot`
`18:34.18`	`wasynyt`	`apt bot`
`18:34.19`	`apt`	`I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).`
`18:34.19`	`H`	`yes bot`
`18:34.22`	`caim`	`yo tambien, habia creido q era un boot.. heh`
`18:34.33`	`caim`	`pero no por mala memoria, sino por que , era educado`
`18:34.35`	`wasynyt`	`i am bot bot and i think that everyone here should know that`
`18:34.37`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:34.42`	`wasynyt`	`*not`
`18:34.50`	`H`	`:)`
`18:35.13`	`wasynyt`	`damn i cant even type`
`18:35.17`	`H`	`bad designed bot XD`
`18:35.17`	`H`	`hehehe`
`18:35.21`	`wasynyt`	`h have you seen someone else with nick wasynyt`
`18:35.24`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:35.26`	`H`	`sorry the humor :)`
`18:35.30`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:35.36`	`wasynyt`	`no reason to be`
`18:35.37`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:35.40`	`H`	`:)`
`18:35.56`	`wasynyt`	`but really is there someone with a samekind of nick`
`18:36.21`	`H`	`i dont remember this nick`
`18:36.26`	`H`	`not before today`
`18:36.31`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`18:36.32`	`wasynytee`	`I haven't seen anyone else with that kind of nick.`
`18:36.40`	`wasynyt`	`huh`
`18:36.43`	`wasynyt`	`nick like mine`
`18:36.49`	`H`	`:)`
`18:36.53`	`wasynytee`	`weird. I haven't seen anyone else using a nick even close to yours.`
`18:36.54`	`wasynyt`	`;D`
`18:37.06`	`wasynyt`	`well that is just me...`
`18:37.09`	`H`	`yes the best manifestation of adulation is to emule :)`
`18:37.25`	`wasynyt`	`i can tell you that i use the same nick everywhere`
`18:37.27`	`wasynytee`	`I'll bet your as proud as the guy who discovered that milking cows was possible.`
`18:38.08`	`wasynytee`	`I don't want to know what thought process the guy used to determind "I'm going to squeeze this little dangly thing under the cow and drink whatever comes out"`
`18:38.18`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`18:38.29`	`wasynyt`	`well i am not sure where my nick came from`
`18:38.43`	`wasynyt`	`i think that it started as a inside joke`
`18:38.44`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:38.47`	`*** join/#elive LinuxNIT (n=LinuxNIT@ppp-70-243-120-104.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net)`
`18:39.12`	`adamant1988`	`that's ok`
`18:39.16`	`adamant1988`	`I have another nick that I don't use much`
`18:39.21`	`adamant1988`	`Zaphrodon`
`18:39.26`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`18:39.26`	`adamant1988`	`and yes, I have friends who actually call me that`
`18:39.58`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`18:40.04`	`wasynyt`	`that must be nice...`
`18:40.22`	`wasynyt`	`it sounds like a name in fantasy book`
`18:40.23`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:41.55`	`adamant1988`	`not really`
`18:41.58`	`wasynyt`	`adamant1988, may i ask how your family business is going`
`18:41.59`	`adamant1988`	`we just got bored on the buss.`
`18:42.02`	`wasynyt`	`ehh`
`18:42.04`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:42.08`	`wasynyt`	`or that`
`18:42.09`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`18:42.19`	`adamant1988`	`It's starting out... I'm trying to establish a monopoly on the local linux servicing business`
`18:42.33`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`18:42.41`	`wasynyt`	`that is not going to be that hard`
`18:44.51`	`wasynyt`	`but i hope you will succes`
`18:48.48`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user9 (n=Elive_us@82.135.166.79)`
`18:56.23`	`*** join/#elive bodha (n=bodha1@dsl-10-130-10.b2b2c.ca)`
`18:56.41`	`bodha`	`re me le`
`18:56.41`	`wasynyt`	`good evening bodha`
`18:56.59`	`wasynyt`	`how are you doing`
`18:57.37`	`bodha`	`wasynyt, good aftenoon`
`18:57.53`	`bodha`	`Im doing very wll, thinks and you`
`18:57.57`	`wasynyt`	`thanks :D`
`18:57.59`	`bodha`	`well`
`18:58.05`	`wasynyt`	`i am doing great`
`18:59.39`	`bodha`	`en fran�ais, bonjour coment vas tu, je vais tr bien, merci`
`18:59.46`	`bodha`	`comment`
`19:00.03`	`bodha`	`je tape pas assez fort sur les touches du clavier`
`19:00.05`	`wasynyt`	`huh`
`19:00.08`	`bodha`	`je recommence`
`19:00.21`	`wasynyt`	`apt x fr en je tape pas assez fort sur les touches du clavier`
`19:00.47`	`bodha`	`apt, thanks`
`19:00.47`	`apt`	`pas de quoi, bodha`
`19:01.07`	`wasynyt`	`apt x fr en je recommence`
`19:02.15`	`bodha`	`bonjour, comment vas tu.... je vais tr�s bien, merci et toi?`
`19:02.28`	`wasynyt`	`apt x fr en bonjour, comment vas tu.... je vais trs bien, merci et toi?`
`19:02.50`	`dererk`	`nice mess`
`19:02.51`	`wasynyt`	`i am doing thank you`
`19:02.54`	`wasynyt`	`:S`
`19:03.03`	`wasynyt`	`*i am doing well, thank you`
`19:03.14`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`19:03.23`	`wasynyt`	`dererk, this is not a mess`
`19:03.38`	`wasynyt`	`you should have seen mee thursday`
`19:03.39`	`bodha`	`fatiguant le dimanche wasynyt`
`19:03.52`	`wasynyt`	`apt x fr en fatiguant le dimanche wasynyt`
`19:04.01`	`wasynyt`	`nope`
`19:04.07`	`wasynyt`	`not for me at least`
`19:05.37`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user84 (n=Elive_us@82.135.166.79)`
`19:05.46`	`wasynyt`	`it was the last day at forrest and full equipment march... equipment weights 40 kg ( i weight 50) and we have go only like 5 km but ...`
`19:06.15`	`Elive_user84`	`hellow`
`19:06.23`	`wasynyt`	`and i had two days and nights behind that i had slept together some 7 hours`
`19:06.28`	`wasynyt`	`good evening Elive_user84`
`19:06.56`	`Elive_user84`	`I am first time elive user`
`19:07.13`	`Elive_user84`	`it seems very good`
`19:07.13`	`wasynyt`	`what do you othink about it`
`19:07.17`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`19:07.22`	`wasynyt`	`that is nice to hear`
`19:07.52`	`Elive_user84`	`but fist problem was with player`
`19:08.02`	`Elive_user84`	`XMMS`
`19:08.02`	`wasynyt`	`huh... what player`
`19:08.05`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`19:08.23`	`Elive_user84`	`it just freesed`
`19:08.55`	`wasynyt`	`try installing banshee... if it is in the repos... it is a very good music player`
`19:09.37`	`*** join/#elive h_ (n=h@62-43-1-28.user.ono.com)`
`19:09.45`	`Elive_user84`	`banshee is in Elive boot cd?`
`19:09.51`	`wasynyt`	`nope`
`19:10.01`	`Elive_user84`	`or i must find it in internet?`
`19:10.03`	`wasynyt`	`you have to install it from internet`
`19:10.19`	`wasynyt`	`you use program named synaptic for it`
`19:12.13`	`caim`	`or apt-get install "..."`
`19:12.27`	`wasynyt`	`yeah`
`19:12.39`	`wasynyt`	`but this is for first time user...`
`19:12.51`	`wasynyt`	`thou apt-get is easier`
`19:12.51`	`Elive_user84`	`I can find it using terminal?`
`19:12.53`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`19:12.56`	`wasynyt`	`yeah`
`19:13.06`	`wasynyt`	`in terminal as root synaptic`
`19:13.07`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`19:13.12`	`wasynyt`	`nice gui`
`19:13.13`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`19:15.12`	`Elive_user84`	`I think i cant run synaptic, because i am running from elive cd`
`19:15.28`	`wasynyt`	`nope... you can still run it`
`19:15.35`	`wasynyt`	`and even install applications`
`19:15.47`	`wasynyt`	`if you have enough ram / swap in use`
`19:16.08`	`Elive_user84`	`but after reboot they will disapare?`
`19:16.14`	`wasynyt`	`yeah`
`19:16.39`	`Elive_user84`	`i have 500MB i swap`
`19:16.48`	`*** join/#elive PrinceAMD (n=PrinceAM@65.199.205.165)`
`19:16.51`	`wasynyt`	`and how much memory`
`19:16.56`	`wasynyt`	`over 512 ?`
`19:16.58`	`Elive_user84`	`512MB`
`19:17.10`	`wasynyt`	`nice then you can install few applications`
`19:17.51`	`wasynyt`	`and try them`
`19:17.53`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`19:18.56`	`Elive_user84`	`so i must run some special komant in terminal?`
`19:19.12`	`wasynyt`	`well not that special...`
`19:19.20`	`wasynyt`	`just the command to run a program`
`19:19.26`	`wasynyt`	`so first`
`19:19.28`	`wasynyt`	`su`
`19:19.42`	`wasynyt`	`password is elive (or eliveuser)`
`19:19.51`	`wasynyt`	`and then synaptic`
`19:19.54`	`wasynyt`	`yeasy`
`19:20.00`	`wasynyt`	`easy`
`19:20.03`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`19:21.47`	`Elive_user84`	`interesting`
`19:21.53`	`wasynyt`	`what is`
`19:22.03`	`wasynyt`	`no su password needed..`
`19:22.16`	`wasynyt`	`because that could be the case too`
`19:22.28`	`LinuxNIT`	`yeah in livemode it dosent ask for th pw for su`
`19:22.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`but it does if you login as root`
`19:23.19`	`Elive_user84`	`it didn't ask me a password`
`19:23.24`	`LinuxNIT`	`right`
`19:23.26`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`19:23.30`	`wasynyt`	`good evening LinuxNIT`
`19:23.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`howdy wasynyt`
`19:23.35`	`wasynyt`	`how are you doing`
`19:23.44`	`wasynyt`	`and how is elive doing`
`19:23.50`	`Elive_user84`	`i have run a synaptic`
`19:23.51`	`wasynyt`	`i heard some bad rumors`
`19:23.52`	`LinuxNIT`	`doing well`
`19:23.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`rumors?`
`19:27.34`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@190-13.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch)`
`19:27.50`	`Elive_user`	`socka`
`19:27.59`	`LinuxNIT`	`hello Elive_user`
`19:28.04`	`Elive_user`	`hi`
`19:28.36`	`wasynyt`	`good evening Elive_user`
`19:28.42`	`Elive_user`	`how do i switch from e16 to e17 after install`
`19:28.50`	`Elive_user`	`?`
`19:29.18`	`wasynyt`	`in login screen`
`19:29.29`	`LinuxNIT`	`bottom left corner`
`19:29.32`	`Elive_user`	`ok`
`19:29.54`	`Elive_user`	`i have left the password in the install routine empty`
`19:30.02`	`Elive_user`	`is there a default root password?`
`19:30.11`	`LinuxNIT`	`elive`
`19:30.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`wait`
`19:30.32`	`caim`	`no root`
`19:30.38`	`LinuxNIT`	`you installed elive but gave it no password?`
`19:30.48`	`Elive_user`	`exactly`
`19:30.53`	`wasynyt`	`that sounds bad`
`19:31.12`	`LinuxNIT`	`two options i can think of`
`19:31.16`	`LinuxNIT`	`1 reinstall`
`19:31.20`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user2 (n=Elive_us@Toronto-HSE-ppp3764060.sympatico.ca)`
`19:31.25`	`LinuxNIT`	`2 chroot into the installed system and set a root pw`
`19:31.34`	`LinuxNIT`	`i dont know if 2 will work`
`19:31.37`	`Elive_user`	`i see`
`19:32.06`	`Elive_user`	`how can i can do that`
`19:32.20`	`caim`	`or, su <enter> passwd`
`19:35.06`	`Elive_user`	`what next`
`19:35.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, which are you going to try?`
`19:35.33`	`LinuxNIT`	`option 2 or what caim said?`
`19:35.55`	`Elive_user`	`caim`
`19:36.19`	`LinuxNIT`	`caim, your talking about once you reboot into the installed system right?`
`19:36.54`	`caim`	`live mode or installed mode`
`19:36.55`	`Elive_user84`	`before bachee search i must to refresh my synaptic paket list?`
`19:36.56`	`Elive_user`	`installed mode`
`19:37.10`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, youre in installed mode?`
`19:37.15`	`Elive_user`	`yes`
`19:37.22`	`LinuxNIT`	`did you type su?`
`19:37.28`	`Elive_user`	`yep`
`19:37.30`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user84, yes refresh`
`19:37.37`	`LinuxNIT`	`and it says your are root right?`
`19:37.44`	`Elive_user`	`yes`
`19:37.51`	`LinuxNIT`	`type passwd`
`19:37.54`	`Elive_user84`	`Unable to fetch file, server said 'Can't open /debian-marillat/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory ' [IP: 62.4.17.14 21]`
`19:38.12`	`wasynyt`	`do update first`
`19:38.34`	`caim`	`sorry, but installed mode mean u have already created a root acount`
`19:38.44`	`Elive_user`	`passwd successfully changed`
`19:38.46`	`caim`	`am i wrong?`
`19:38.54`	`caim`	`ok then`
`19:38.57`	`LinuxNIT`	`or reload in synaptic`
`19:39.02`	`wasynyt`	`yeah`
`19:39.03`	`LinuxNIT`	`Elive_user, type exit`
`19:39.06`	`LinuxNIT`	`then su`
`19:39.13`	`LinuxNIT`	`see if it asks for the pw`
`19:39.45`	`Elive_user`	`thnks`
`19:40.00`	`LinuxNIT`	`caim, sound right then?`
`19:40.16`	`Elive_user`	`it works`
`19:40.23`	`LinuxNIT`	`cool`
`19:40.31`	`wasynyt`	`so caim is a person who knows his stuff ehh`
`19:40.45`	`LinuxNIT`	`he appears that way ;D`
`19:40.56`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`19:41.23`	`Elive_user`	`bye`
`19:41.28`	`wasynyt`	`see you later`
`19:41.34`	`wasynyt`	`:S`
`19:41.36`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`19:41.48`	`caim`	`xD, i know nothing, just started with linux this year`
`19:41.56`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`19:42.14`	`LinuxNIT`	`starting date is not always relative ;)`
`19:42.21`	`wasynyt`	`well you knew something`
`19:42.23`	`wasynyt`	`yeah`
`19:42.27`	`LinuxNIT`	`some people learn very very quickly`
`19:42.58`	`caim`	`:D`
`19:43.05`	`wasynyt`	`you are ?`
`19:43.58`	`caim`	`not even close to be a coder`
`19:44.02`	`wasynyt`	`hmm`
`19:44.31`	`wasynyt`	`it just that linux console commands are c`
`19:44.39`	`wasynyt`	`if i remember correctly`
`19:44.45`	`caim`	`i just learn from thana, and from my mistakes`
`19:44.54`	`wasynyt`	`the best way`
`19:45.41`	`wasynyt`	`search engines are quite helpfull too`
`19:46.28`	`caim`	`of course`
`19:46.35`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`19:50.46`	`caim`	`wasynyt`
`19:50.59`	`wasynyt`	`yes`
`19:51.00`	`wasynyt`	`?`
`19:51.09`	`caim`	`what aabout u?`
`19:51.17`	`wasynyt`	`what about me..`
`19:51.24`	`Elive_user84`	`i booted my native language, but i can't find wich updates package list`
`19:52.10`	`Elive_user84`	`maybe like refresh icon on the synaptic`
`19:52.17`	`Elive_user84`	`?`
`19:52.44`	`wasynyt`	`enough ?`
`19:53.01`	`wasynyt`	`caim and you`
`19:54.20`	`Elive_user84`	`how many months you must stay in army?`
`19:54.31`	`wasynyt`	`10 more to go i think`
`19:54.40`	`caim`	`i live in spain, but i am brazilian`
`19:55.18`	`wasynyt`	`ok`
`19:55.23`	`Elive_user84`	`it's midle from 6 to 12`
`19:55.27`	`Elive_user84`	`:)`
`19:55.30`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`19:55.31`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`19:55.34`	`caim`	`i started with linux this year`
`19:55.43`	`caim`	`with debian, last month`
`19:55.51`	`wasynyt`	`so how has it been his far`
`19:56.51`	`wasynyt`	`*this`
`19:57.45`	`roxville`	`hi wasynyt :)`
`19:57.54`	`wasynyt`	`good evening roxville`
`19:57.58`	`wasynyt`	`how are you doing`
`19:58.04`	`roxville`	`regards from revdjenk... he was asking how you were the other night`
`19:58.08`	`wasynyt`	`and how is elive doing`
`19:58.15`	`wasynyt`	`thanks`
`19:58.24`	`wasynyt`	`tell him that i am doing great`
`19:58.29`	`roxville`	`i'm good! i gotta leave shortly to go to my gig`
`19:58.35`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`19:58.43`	`roxville`	`elive 0.5 is ALMOST out`
`19:58.51`	`wasynyt`	`i heard that elive might become costly`
`19:58.57`	`adamant1988`	`doubt it`
`19:59.02`	`adamant1988`	`Thana is too 1337 for that.`
`19:59.28`	`roxville`	`costly, no`
`19:59.29`	`wasynyt`	`i heard some rumours and linuxnit confirmed those`
`19:59.52`	`caim`	`wasynyt, i really like linux`
`19:59.52`	`roxville`	`but... he's going to try... he hasn'ty gotte any donations att all`
`20:00.01`	`wasynyt`	`that is bad`
`20:00.09`	`roxville`	`so... to download 0.5 you have to make a donation, i think`
`20:00.14`	`caim`	`last week i killed windows`
`20:00.18`	`roxville`	`no specific sum, but... something`
`20:00.18`	`wasynyt`	`but still i cant even make those... no credit card`
`20:00.56`	`roxville`	`he also has a bank account there... so it'll work :)`
`20:01.10`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`20:01.15`	`wasynyt`	`still dunno`
`20:01.18`	`adamant1988`	`well, I hope he's ready to be very dissapointed by his attempt to get money`
`20:01.25`	`wasynyt`	`yeah`
`20:01.43`	`adamant1988`	`This is linux... someone else is just going to host the files... if there is enough demand.`
`20:02.22`	`wasynyt`	`yeah`
`20:03.47`	`roxville`	`ok... but we ALL would like for thana to be able to develop elive... don't we?`
`20:03.55`	`wasynyt`	`yeah`
`20:04.49`	`wasynyt`	`but still it is not going to be me who is going to finance this... the product is not good enough...`
`20:04.49`	`caim`	`how much, its enough, for one guy to donate?`
`20:04.49`	`adamant1988`	`roxville, see that's the beauty of open source...`
`20:04.49`	`adamant1988`	`people are cheap.`
`20:05.11`	`adamant1988`	`when Thana says "screw it" and starts doing something else cause he can't make any money.. if the project was important enough people will just pick up where he left off.`
`20:05.26`	`wasynyt`	`humm not quite`
`20:05.41`	`wasynyt`	`there is too much work that is only in thanas mind`
`20:05.42`	`wasynyt`	`:S`
`20:06.14`	`adamant1988`	`true`
`20:06.28`	`adamant1988`	`either that or enbuntu will just absorb all of the hard work that thana has done.`
`20:06.44`	`wasynyt`	`so it is very hard to continue this one.. because he has not documented his work`
`20:07.15`	`roxville`	`yeah`
`20:07.26`	`adamant1988`	`OR elive will just fade into obscurity.`
`20:07.34`	`adamant1988`	`which happens with a lot of distributions.`
`20:07.41`	`wasynyt`	`that is the number one option here`
`20:07.42`	`roxville`	`or he would need to find a job, and develop elive in his spare time`
`20:07.51`	`wasynyt`	`if thana leaves this one dies`
`20:07.58`	`adamant1988`	`that option is probably better. roxville`
`20:08.02`	`roxville`	`oh yeah, no doubt`
`20:08.17`	`adamant1988`	`but it means lower quality code most likely, and probably less frequent releases.`
`20:08.32`	`wasynyt`	`i just feel that thana does not want to do any other job than this`
`20:08.34`	`roxville`	`well... he would need to move somewhere else... coz he hates belgium...`
`20:08.34`	`wasynyt`	`:S`
`20:08.40`	`wasynyt`	`really`
`20:08.42`	`wasynyt`	`?`
`20:08.46`	`roxville`	`and he needs to do it soon... IMO`
`20:09.22`	`roxville`	`belgium is not a bad country... but if you weren't born there... i think it's very hard to adapt`
`20:09.33`	`wasynyt`	`really why`
`20:09.37`	`wasynyt`	`:S`
`20:09.59`	`adamant1988`	`wasynyt, move to WV and try to adapt -_-`
`20:10.03`	`roxville`	`it has a special climate.... a bit like finland... but finland is better IMO`
`20:10.08`	`adamant1988`	`it's not bad to live here... but I feel sorry for the newbies.`
`20:10.10`	`roxville`	`ppl are kinda introvert`
`20:10.11`	`wasynyt`	`WV?`
`20:10.30`	`roxville`	`west virginia`
`20:10.35`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`20:10.56`	`adamant1988`	`exactly`
`20:11.04`	`adamant1988`	`good game. I win.. noob.`
`20:11.11`	`wasynyt`	`well`
`20:11.27`	`wasynyt`	`i could move into any west european country`
`20:11.53`	`wasynyt`	`and into asia too...`
`20:12.13`	`wasynyt`	`but i have a few things that make me not want to move into america`
`20:12.30`	`adamant1988`	`George W?`
`20:12.47`	`wasynyt`	`nah he is just a little boy in a sand box`
`20:13.03`	`wasynyt`	`i dont like the lads behind his back`
`20:13.11`	`adamant1988`	`Actually, some of the top historians in the US are putting him in the top tier of presidents.`
`20:13.23`	`roxville`	`ok, i gotta go get rready`
`20:13.23`	`adamant1988`	`even though his approval ratings such.`
`20:13.34`	`roxville`	`glad to see you're doing good, wasynyt :)`
`20:13.46`	`wasynyt`	`what could affect me`
`20:13.49`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`20:14.10`	`wasynyt`	`adamant1988, i dont about that`
`20:14.25`	`adamant1988`	`wasynyt, it's true.`
`20:14.35`	`wasynyt`	`hmm`
`20:15.00`	`wasynyt`	`well he has not actually done anything that bad.. except a "war" that cannot be won`
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`20:15.34`	`wasynyt`	`good evening Begasus`
`20:15.55`	`Begasus`	`evening wasynyt`
`20:16.20`	`wasynyt`	`how are you doing`
`20:16.34`	`Elive_user84`	`thank you all for help and good night`
`20:16.37`	`caim`	`wasynyt, has not done anything bad?`
`20:16.54`	`wasynyt`	`me or bush junior`
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`20:17.05`	`caim`	`bush junior`
`20:17.10`	`wasynyt`	`Elive_user84, you are welcome... and good night`
`20:17.25`	`wasynyt`	`caim every one of us has done something evil`
`20:17.34`	`wasynyt`	`good evening bouba`
`20:17.43`	`bouba`	`hi wasy!:D`
`20:17.48`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`20:17.53`	`wasynyt`	`how are you doing`
`20:18.24`	`bouba`	`triyng to crash winzoz:D`
`20:18.39`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`20:18.43`	`bouba`	`it's not dofficult!`
`20:18.43`	`wasynyt`	`that is not so hard`
`20:18.44`	`bouba`	`:D`
`20:18.45`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`20:18.48`	`bouba`	`;)`
`20:19.00`	`caim`	`i wish i speak a better english, to explain what a think`
`20:19.08`	`bouba`	`and you? alwais in suse?`
`20:19.10`	`wasynyt`	`speak bad then`
`20:19.14`	`bouba`	`always:P`
`20:19.21`	`wasynyt`	`nope, ubutu and macos at the moment`
`20:19.35`	`wasynyt`	`suse.. perhaps again in future`
`20:19.50`	`bouba`	`ubuntu?:\| eheheheh`
`20:20.07`	`wasynyt`	`well it work`
`20:20.19`	`bouba`	`yea it's a good so;)`
`20:20.21`	`caim`	`th evil you could do or i could do, only affect few people`
`20:20.29`	`wasynyt`	`nope`
`20:20.50`	`bouba`	`sorry, now i go play chess:D`
`20:20.51`	`wasynyt`	`i could affect a lot of people if would like... and so could any one of us`
`20:20.59`	`bouba`	`see you later;)`
`20:21.14`	`wasynyt`	`see you later`
`20:21.56`	`caim`	`yes but we don't. anyone could and could not`
`20:22.07`	`wasynyt`	`but that is the trick`
`20:22.10`	`caim`	`but i could do much more if i were a president`
`20:22.21`	`wasynyt`	`well`
`20:22.37`	`caim`	`u can't say me and bush have the same power`
`20:23.03`	`caim`	`but yes both of us can, be evil at many levels`
`20:23.06`	`wasynyt`	`nope`
`20:23.11`	`wasynyt`	`yeah`
`20:23.15`	`wasynyt`	`that is what i mean`
`20:23.33`	`caim`	`or`
`20:24.22`	`wasynyt`	`yes ?`
`20:24.38`	`caim`	`if u are going to be evil, be evil, but dont sell shit`
`20:24.55`	`caim`	`people have learn how to eat lies on the news`
`20:25.01`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`20:25.13`	`wasynyt`	`but that is not totally bush's fault`
`20:25.24`	`wasynyt`	`that is partly your societys fault..`
`20:25.30`	`caim`	`ofcourse, you said before`
`20:25.38`	`adamant1988`	`why are we talking about ubuntu and bush like they belong in the same convo?`
`20:25.47`	`caim`	`and those who are in his back`
`20:26.03`	`wasynyt`	`because everything belong's into same convo`
`20:26.09`	`wasynyt`	`yes`
`20:26.33`	`wasynyt`	`i fear more about people who act behind someone`
`20:26.43`	`wasynyt`	`they often have more power than anyone else`
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`20:27.29`	`wasynyt`	`good evening Begasus`
`20:27.34`	`caim`	`yeah, bush is the image`
`20:27.45`	`wasynyt`	`yeah`
`20:27.46`	`caim`	`the rest are the actions`
`20:27.49`	`Begasus`	`thnx (again) wasynyt :)`
`20:27.53`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`20:28.59`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`20:29.43`	`wasynyt`	`caim it is just sometimes the images have to take the actions and the shit.. even if they would not want`
`20:30.05`	`wasynyt`	`and bush seems to be a bit "simple" but i think that he is not stupid`
`20:30.39`	`wasynyt`	`because being simple has its advantages`
`20:32.10`	`caim`	`i think he is a bit stupid`
`20:32.16`	`wasynyt`	`i dont`
`20:32.29`	`wasynyt`	`stupid people dont rule kindoms`
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`20:33.05`	`adamant1988`	`wasynyt, is it bad that you just mispelled kingdoms?`
`20:33.15`	`wasynyt`	`noep`
`20:33.23`	`adamant1988`	`while making a comment about stupid people not being able to rule them...`
`20:33.26`	`adamant1988`	`hypocrite...`
`20:33.41`	`wasynyt`	`i havent really typed english in a long time`
`20:33.42`	`caim`	`but i think he is the image`
`20:33.49`	`wasynyt`	`adamant1988, what do you mean`
`20:34.02`	`adamant1988`	`t'was a joke :P`
`20:34.16`	`wasynyt`	`to be able to rule requires certain abilities`
`20:35.27`	`caim`	`but there is one thing i cant deny`
`20:35.39`	`wasynyt`	`and it is`
`20:35.59`	`caim`	`the guy is damm funny`
`20:36.03`	`wasynyt`	`heh`
`20:36.04`	`caim`	`speaking`
`20:36.17`	`caim`	`and everything`
`20:36.26`	`wasynyt`	`i think that he might have been teached act like that`
`20:36.37`	`wasynyt`	`it is just too convinient`
`20:36.54`	`caim`	`wasynyt, have u seen the michael moore movie?`
`20:37.02`	`wasynyt`	`yeah`
`20:37.08`	`caim`	`and?`
`20:37.13`	`wasynyt`	`i dont like that chap either`
`20:38.25`	`wasynyt`	`i think that he is a populist.. and i hate them`
`20:39.00`	`caim`	`yeah i always try to be critic`
`20:39.11`	`wasynyt`	`but it is very hard`
`20:39.22`	`caim`	`but that thing about the carlyle group makes sense`
`20:39.36`	`wasynyt`	`huh ?`
`20:41.08`	`wasynyt`	`so could you explain that for me... "carlyle group.."`
`20:41.10`	`caim`	`would you mind correct me with my english? not just the words but the entire phrase`
`20:41.25`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`20:41.35`	`wasynyt`	`you mean people behind someone`
`20:41.38`	`wasynyt`	`?`
`20:41.58`	`wasynyt`	`the one's that control the strings`
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`20:42.32`	`wasynyt`	`good evening egrub`
`20:42.33`	`caim`	`i think one of the carlyle group companys suplie the army with food and guns, so that means the state pays the carlyle group for those kind of things`
`20:42.36`	`caim`	`and`
`20:43.16`	`caim`	`the carlyle group is bush and "behind his back" group`
`20:43.38`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`20:43.51`	`wasynyt`	`that could be`
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`20:44.41`	`wasynyt`	`good evening quidam-`
`20:44.49`	`quidam-`	`wasynyt, HI¡ :)`
`20:44.52`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`20:45.37`	`caim`	`that means that while the army or the country is in war, they are making money`
`20:45.43`	`wasynyt`	`how are you doing quidam-`
`20:45.50`	`caim`	`hola egrub`
`20:45.51`	`wasynyt`	`caim, yeah`
`20:46.11`	`egrub`	`Hola caim de nuevo.`
`20:46.31`	`wasynyt`	`bad thing about that war is that it is feeding itself`
`20:47.24`	`caim`	`yes, and i don't understand why are they still there`
`20:47.38`	`wasynyt`	`who american soldiers`
`20:47.39`	`wasynyt`	`?`
`20:47.47`	`caim`	`yes`
`20:48.06`	`wasynyt`	`humm`
`20:48.20`	`caim`	`egrub, con tovid, alguna ves has estado sin sonido, como si te codificara la mitad del audio y la otra no`
`20:48.37`	`wasynyt`	`they are doing what needs to be done... i just hope that they dont start any other wars`
`20:48.51`	`wasynyt`	`if one starts the game one must play the game`
`20:49.14`	`caim`	`what do they need to do? reconstruct? the thing is worse`
`20:49.32`	`caim`	`they said, they would just take saddam away`
`20:49.42`	`wasynyt`	`the thing is that if one leaves that country now it will collaps`
`20:49.58`	`wasynyt`	`there is nothing in it that would hold it together`
`20:50.08`	`egrub`	`caim, no sé.`
`20:50.20`	`egrub`	`caim, una pelicula se ve bien todos hasta el audio.`
`20:50.42`	`egrub`	`caim, la otra se cortó el pedazo audio el medio de la final...`
`20:50.55`	`caim`	`egrub, sabes por que?`
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`20:51.04`	`egrub`	`caim, no...`
`20:51.06`	`wasynyt`	`good evening bentejuy`
`20:51.18`	`caim`	`a mi me pasa, me psaba en win tambien`
`20:51.29`	`bentejuy`	`good evening wasynyt! :)`
`20:51.34`	`egrub`	`caim, pero en win es una kaka aburrido`
`20:51.35`	`egrub`	`xD`
`20:51.36`	`wasynyt`	`how are you doing`
`20:51.47`	`caim`	`ya, pero digo, pasa lo mismo`
`20:51.54`	`egrub`	`Si.`
`20:51.57`	`caim`	`errores en la codificacion del audio`
`20:52.01`	`bentejuy`	`I'm fine and you?`
`20:52.05`	`caim`	`:D`
`20:52.06`	`egrub`	`caim, prefiero el formato avi.`
`20:52.24`	`wasynyt`	`i am doing great too`
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`20:52.26`	`caim`	`esta bien, me gusta mas q cualquier otro`
`20:52.43`	`egrub`	`caim, si claro.`
`20:53.02`	`egrub`	`caim, el dvdshrink es una mierda.`
`20:53.09`	`egrub`	`Le dan errores de subtitulo`
`20:55.08`	`caim`	`buah`
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`20:55.50`	`caim`	`lo peor esq grabe el dvd y solo tiene 20 minutos de audio`
`20:55.56`	`caim`	`mierda, otro dvd a la basura`
`20:55.59`	`caim`	`me quedan 2`
`20:56.02`	`caim`	`xDD`
`20:56.57`	`wasynyt`	`good evening Elive_user7`
`21:00.08`	`Elive_user7`	`hi everybody`
`21:00.18`	`bentejuy`	`hi Elive_user7!`
`21:00.26`	`caim`	`hi`
`21:00.45`	`wasynyt`	`how are you doing Elive_user7`
`21:01.51`	`Elive_user7`	`i am just testin 4.2`
`21:02.16`	`sinplomo`	`egrub, el formato avi solo es un formato contenedor`
`21:02.24`	`sinplomo`	`un avi puedes ser un divx ... xvid ...`
`21:03.14`	`Elive_user7`	`is there a newer version than 0.4.2_`
`21:04.54`	`caim`	`0.5 pre stable`
`21:06.51`	`Elive_user7`	`caim i have been using the older version, alwazs updating with apt-get. where can one get this 0.5`
`21:08.05`	`caim`	`Elive_user7, http://voice1.extreme-gamingservers.com/elive/isos/development/`
`21:08.43`	`caim`	`sinplomo, entonzes puede ser q un reproductor no lea un avi q contine un mkv?`
`21:08.48`	`caim`	`por ejemplo`
`21:08.51`	`caim`	`digo`
`21:10.06`	`Elive_user7`	`thank zou caim, i will give it a try`
`21:10.16`	`wasynyt`	`good night people`
`21:10.18`	`wasynyt`	`:D`
`21:10.28`	`caim`	`wasynyt, good night`
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`21:21.51`	`caim`	`sinplomo?`
`21:23.24`	`Elive_user7`	`thank you guys and see you soon!`
`21:23.41`	`caim`	`see you`
`21:23.44`	`caim`	`:)`
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`21:26.03`	`TuxMeister`	`hey there guys`
`21:26.05`	`TuxMeister`	`que pasa quidam-`
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`23:37.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`hi all`
`23:38.00`	`adamant1988`	`Hey Thanatermesis`
`23:38.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`what is happening adamant1988 ? im looking the logs and im looking strange things in the channel`
`23:38.32`	`adamant1988`	`how is life?`
`23:38.46`	`adamant1988`	`what strange things?`
`23:38.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`well, im just back to eat with friends :)`
`23:39.08`	`get[elive]`	`also know as social live`
`23:39.09`	`get[elive]`	`:d`
`23:39.13`	`get[elive]`	`*life`
`23:39.19`	`adamant1988`	`What? a linux developer has a social life?`
`23:39.23`	`adamant1988`	`when was this allowed?`
`23:39.39`	`get[elive]`	`even linux brings 0 money`
`23:39.45`	`get[elive]`	`^^`
`23:39.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`sep 17 17:41:37 <wasynyt> so thana is going to release 0.5 stable.. an it is a "paid one" ? :S and you tried to change his mind about it`
`23:40.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`sep 17 17:42:25 <dererk> anyway, If you give 1 euro or less you are able to download it`
`23:40.24`	`adamant1988`	`Thanatermesis, I didn't try to change his mind.. but I can tell you it isn't going to work.`
`23:40.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`sep 17 17:45:42 <wasynyt> Thanatermesis, ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE ELIVE LIKE WINDOWS ?`
`23:40.44`	`adamant1988`	`There are other ways you can make money from your product Thanatermesis`
`23:40.48`	`get[elive]`	`you are not paying for the software, you pay for the work to recopile all`
`23:40.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`sep 17 17:54:31 <wasynyt> if he does that it will my bye bye for elive`
`23:41.01`	`adamant1988`	`In fact, you're in a unique position to make good money from elive.`
`23:41.11`	`adamant1988`	`but charging for it isn't going to work. =\`
`23:41.32`	`get[elive]`	`yes the best way is making the updates payable`
`23:41.33`	`get[elive]`	`...`
`23:41.45`	`get[elive]`	`like repositories and security updates`
`23:41.49`	`adamant1988`	`No, that presents with the same flaw get[elive]`
`23:42.00`	`adamant1988`	`the files are free, anyone can host them.`
`23:42.11`	`get[elive]`	`even ou will update without reinstall -pay for it`
`23:42.22`	`adamant1988`	`But, no one here knows more about Elive than Thanatermesis`
`23:42.34`	`get[elive]`	`in fact`
`23:42.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`adamant1988, well, actually i not have very money to "life", I like to make Elive, i made Elive for pleasure... but i NEED to life... then, i have the option to life working for Elive... or i have the option to finish to make Elive and search a work`
`23:42.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`i think to affects more the users than me`
`23:42.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive is pleasure for me and don't give me anything`
`23:43.14`	`adamant1988`	`Thanatermesis, You can make a decent amount of money from elive if you so desire.`
`23:43.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`if the users use it or not, don't change anything for me, i don't want to are "famous" or make a "big known distro"`
`23:43.29`	`adamant1988`	`but charging to download it, isn't going to work.`
`23:43.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`i know... but for now i don't have another ways, this is just a temporal way to maintain the future of the project`
`23:43.52`	`get[elive]`	`seems so`
`23:44.02`	`adamant1988`	`because someone will give you like $0.01 and get the file, then host it themselves for free.`
`23:44.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`btw, future stable: http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/0.5/`
`23:44.21`	`get[elive]`	`hey make a donate button and the best friends and users of elive will donate`
`23:44.26`	`get[elive]`	`meinclusive`
`23:44.33`	`adamant1988`	`Thanatermesis, charge for "professional support".`
`23:44.49`	`get[elive]`	`ive said you, you need a mirror, here you have mirror, not one, two`
`23:44.59`	`get[elive]`	`and professional mirrors`
`23:45.00`	`adamant1988`	`Don't charge for the distribution. Charge for the amount of work you do supporting it.`
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`23:45.25`	`get[elive]`	`normally with this specs a mirror like this costs 30€ in month`
`23:45.28`	`adamant1988`	`Make it affordable.. and make it easily payable by anyone with a bank account (pay pal is good) .`
`23:45.39`	`get[elive]`	`so, if you need money, i can send you`
`23:46.04`	`adamant1988`	`offer a subscription based service, and offer an "on the spot" service (which is slightly more expensive compared to the subscription)`
`23:46.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`adamant1988, well, you mean a simple "support"`
`23:46.49`	`adamant1988`	`I mean support...`
`23:47.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`for start making support, is needed 2 things`
`23:47.05`	`get[elive]`	`thats what i say`
`23:47.07`	`adamant1988`	`Name one other person who knows close to as much about the inside of elive as you.`
`23:47.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`1) the system finished and ready for the end-users`
`23:47.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`2) a little money for start making it "correctly"`
`23:47.49`	`get[elive]`	`1 - you have more than 10 persons who will test and retest the prereleases`
`23:47.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`its a future plan... not a actual plan`
`23:47.59`	`adamant1988`	`Not really Thana... first off asking for support costs doesn't require the product to be finished.. just simply say that you will charge for support for the releases.`
`23:48.14`	`get[elive]`	`2- how many times i have to say to you, if yu need i will support you as far i can`
`23:48.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`get[elive], but Elive, is not finished`
`23:48.54`	`adamant1988`	`Thanatermesis, will it ever be?`
`23:49.01`	`get[elive]`	`mm i only ahve seen now the little sane bug`
`23:49.07`	`adamant1988`	`Name one peice of software that has ever been "finished"`
`23:49.19`	`get[elive]`	`all others are fixes`
`23:49.34`	`adamant1988`	`Even after the software releases.. things are changed, updates are released... development still happens on it.`
`23:49.47`	`get[elive]`	`thats right`
`23:49.59`	`adamant1988`	`So No, the software doesn't have to be released.`
`23:50.03`	`adamant1988`	`"finished"`
`23:50.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`e17 is not stable, Elive turns on a testing debian version with upgrades everytime`
`23:50.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`etc`
`23:50.44`	`adamant1988`	`Gives you something to support doesn't it.`
`23:50.44`	`get[elive]`	`ist there any debian stable ?`
`23:50.53`	`adamant1988`	`get[elive], yes... debian stable is rock solid.`
`23:51.01`	`get[elive]`	`use it`
`23:51.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`get[elive], im waiting to etch turns to stable for move the default Elive to it`
`23:51.23`	`get[elive]`	`instead unstable`
`23:51.26`	`get[elive]`	`aham then that should be the 0.5`
`23:51.31`	`get[elive]`	`*0.6`
`23:51.38`	`adamant1988`	`Thanatermesis, it is my understanding that Ubuntu is produced from Debian sid.`
`23:51.49`	`adamant1988`	`It doesn'thave to be produced from a stable version of debian to be stable.`
`23:53.03`	`get[elive]`	`thats right`
`23:53.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`ubuntu is stable ?`
`23:53.18`	`get[elive]`	`unbuntu sucks?`
`23:53.30`	`adamant1988`	`ubuntu isn't too bad Thanatermesis`
`23:53.45`	`adamant1988`	`there are some bugs, but in terms of stability it's not bad at all.`
`23:54.03`	`get[elive]`	`elive is stable too,`
`23:54.15`	`get[elive]`	`i have no crashes ...`
`23:54.29`	`get[elive]`	`only some little failures on software but not on elive`
`23:54.34`	`adamant1988`	`Thanatermesis, If you want I can talk to you in pm about some possible options for bringing a little cash....`
`23:54.53`	`get[elive]`	`ive said him too`
`23:55.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`adamant1988, you have look the before link ?`
`23:55.14`	`adamant1988`	`get[elive], unlike your plan... mine doesn't rely on you`
`23:55.24`	`adamant1988`	`Thanatermesis, I'm sorry I have no clue what you just said`
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`23:55.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/0.5/`
`23:55.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`future page for 0.5`
`23:55.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`make a look to the download section`
`23:56.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`is this a "payment" ?`
`23:57.22`	`adamant1988`	`Thanatermesis, the problem with that Thana... is you're stopping people who CANT pay from using your distribution.`
`23:57.33`	`adamant1988`	`a lot of linux users are teenagers. no credit cards.`
`23:58.05`	`adamant1988`	`so.. what do you think is going to happen?`
`23:58.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`adamant1988, yes.... but:`
`23:58.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`Why this payment ?`
`23:58.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`- Because Elive is made for and with pleasure, but free don't mean gratis, and god don't pay the bills, the poor donations received for now is not sufficient for maintain the future of the project, consider a donation at least every time you download it`
`23:58.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`What if I can't posible to donate ?`
`23:58.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`- You have here the option to pay by paypal or using a credit card, but if you don't have any of those, you can make a traditional bank transfer`
`23:59.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`- This is a free donation, you decide the amount... but some times, not all the users can posible to donate, on this case you can download a development releases after to try Elive, you can search the way to make a donation for download the Stable release`
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