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| 00:09.43 | Ryuga | hmm |
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| 00:22.09 | bodha | Taka0, je sais, pas au benefice du doute, j,ai cherché et pas trouvé dans la liste des hoax |
| 00:31.06 | Taka0 | bodha, ouin , pas facile de définir si c vrai ou non |
| 00:38.45 | bodha | oui, mais j'ai pas confiance en ce cie de toute facon |
| 00:38.51 | bodha | mais c,est moi hein! |
| 01:09.33 | PrinceAMD | Ryuga, how is the engage comin along |
| 01:10.12 | Ryuga | my system crashed and the files are corrupted...have to redownload the source code again |
| 01:10.30 | PrinceAMD | ok. |
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| 01:17.53 | Ryuga | blah, internet is acting up |
| 01:22.09 | *** join/#elive LinuxNIT (n=LinuxNIT@ppp-70-254-8-228.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) |
| 01:23.58 | PrinceAMD | :( |
| 01:24.21 | LinuxNIT | how ya doing PrinceAMD ? |
| 01:24.40 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, a bit better |
| 01:25.00 | PrinceAMD | but still angry with myself for doing what i did today |
| 01:25.34 | Ryuga | hey there linuxnit |
| 01:26.13 | LinuxNIT | hey Ryuga |
| 01:26.52 | Ryuga | how are you? |
| 01:27.05 | LinuxNIT | pretty good |
| 01:28.08 | Ryuga | :D |
| 01:32.18 | pales_rider | hi linuxnit |
| 01:32.36 | LinuxNIT | heya pales_rider |
| 01:32.52 | LinuxNIT | how are you? |
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| 01:32.59 | pales_rider | im great |
| 01:33.03 | pales_rider | how are you? |
| 01:33.07 | LinuxNIT | pretty good |
| 01:33.08 | pales_rider | hi rev |
| 01:33.17 | pales_rider | hows scholl going? |
| 01:33.20 | revdjenk | hey pales_rider welcome back! |
| 01:33.23 | pales_rider | school* |
| 01:33.24 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 01:33.26 | revdjenk | we love you |
| 01:33.30 | LinuxNIT | getting better i think |
| 01:33.30 | pales_rider | i just stopped in |
| 01:33.36 | pales_rider | im not back |
| 01:33.37 | revdjenk | oh fine |
| 01:33.50 | revdjenk | takl to LinuxNIT and leave, huh |
| 01:34.03 | pales_rider | i was hoping to say hello to him and to you |
| 01:34.10 | pales_rider | looks like i got my wish |
| 01:34.20 | LinuxNIT | nice timing |
| 01:34.21 | revdjenk | yaya |
| 01:34.48 | pales_rider | sure is |
| 01:35.16 | revdjenk | school getting better? how? |
| 01:35.39 | LinuxNIT | forceing myself to study more.... :-/ |
| 01:35.50 | pales_rider | good |
| 01:35.54 | LinuxNIT | meh |
| 01:36.12 | revdjenk | good study mean fine student |
| 01:36.21 | pales_rider | i start school tomorrow night |
| 01:36.29 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 01:36.32 | revdjenk | for what? |
| 01:36.41 | pales_rider | advanced accounting |
| 01:37.04 | revdjenk | yikes |
| 01:37.19 | pales_rider | my employer is paying for the course |
| 01:37.24 | LinuxNIT | nice |
| 01:37.28 | revdjenk | great |
| 01:37.33 | pales_rider | if i wanna get anywhere i need to take it |
| 01:38.05 | pales_rider | i dont know where i wanna get..but.....lol |
| 01:38.11 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 01:38.39 | revdjenk | 1 |
| 01:38.49 | pales_rider | lol |
| 01:38.56 | pales_rider | accountants are boring |
| 01:39.02 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 01:39.03 | pales_rider | im not an accountant |
| 01:39.09 | revdjenk | ah |
| 01:39.22 | pales_rider | i have to learn so i can better help the accountants |
| 01:39.23 | revdjenk | :) |
| 01:39.47 | Ryuga | can't find engage sourcecode now =/ |
| 01:39.57 | revdjenk | that's why LinuxNIT is in school to help the teachers!!1 |
| 01:40.11 | LinuxNIT | and boy do they need it |
| 01:40.12 | pales_rider | yeah that must be it |
| 01:40.37 | pales_rider | ok ill rephrase that statement..... |
| 01:40.39 | revdjenk | Ryuga, too many new changes over there in enlightenment land |
| 01:41.03 | pales_rider | i have to learn so i can better understand the boring accountants when they call for support |
| 01:41.17 | Ryuga | yea, trying to update the engage module so it supports .desktop extensions |
| 01:41.21 | revdjenk | now you'vd got it |
| 01:42.15 | revdjenk | Ryuga, did you switch to the .desktop enlightenment? |
| 01:42.25 | Ryuga | not on my laptop |
| 01:42.38 | Ryuga | going to switch my desktop to have the .desktop enlightenment |
| 01:42.39 | revdjenk | ah....I was going to suggest NOT to do it |
| 01:42.46 | revdjenk | hee hee ... eh LinuxNIT |
| 01:43.11 | revdjenk | I'm on the dark side right now becaouse of it... |
| 01:43.27 | LinuxNIT | works fine for me |
| 01:43.35 | LinuxNIT | and everyone else that did it |
| 01:43.42 | LinuxNIT | except him |
| 01:43.49 | revdjenk | fine...remember I have that screwy non-linux friendly machine |
| 01:44.08 | pales_rider | sounds like a personal problem |
| 01:44.14 | revdjenk | and then I reinstalled .5 and doesn't recognize user or password! |
| 01:44.23 | LinuxNIT | maybe just delete all of your enlightenement related directories and let it start the configs from scratch |
| 01:44.53 | revdjenk | it still won't let me get in... no user or pwd |
| 01:45.38 | revdjenk | how do I get those back? |
| 01:46.03 | LinuxNIT | huh? |
| 01:46.08 | LinuxNIT | no user or pw? |
| 01:46.49 | revdjenk | that's right...did reinstall of .5...and entrance won't accept any user or pwd I know |
| 01:47.14 | revdjenk | didn't pick them up during reinstall |
| 01:47.21 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 01:47.44 | revdjenk | my partitions are still there...thank God |
| 01:47.49 | LinuxNIT | im lost as to where you are |
| 01:48.04 | LinuxNIT | did you reinstall elive after trying the new e17? |
| 01:48.18 | revdjenk | right now, I am on our desktop , with my lappy running .5 live beside me |
| 01:48.22 | revdjenk | yes |
| 01:48.40 | broadcast | :) hi |
| 01:48.45 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 01:48.46 | revdjenk | I couldn't get back on line the other morning... with you... |
| 01:49.00 | revdjenk | hey broadcast |
| 01:49.06 | LinuxNIT | so you dont have the new e17 anymore |
| 01:49.10 | LinuxNIT | hello broadcast |
| 01:49.17 | revdjenk | can't get beyond entrance |
| 01:49.19 | broadcast | x) i like ion |
| 01:49.35 | revdjenk | i like guon |
| 01:49.43 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, what partition is elive on? |
| 01:49.44 | broadcast | guon? |
| 01:49.52 | revdjenk | never mind |
| 01:50.02 | revdjenk | what is ion |
| 01:50.18 | broadcast | ion = windowmanager |
| 01:50.28 | revdjenk | home is hda7 elive on hda5 |
| 01:50.31 | broadcast | ionwm power :D~ |
| 01:50.42 | LinuxNIT | ooook |
| 01:50.57 | revdjenk | fine broadcast... |
| 01:51.19 | revdjenk | never heard of ion |
| 01:52.23 | broadcast | www.ionwm.org |
| 01:54.20 | broadcast | x) |
| 01:54.29 | revdjenk | thx I'll check it, but I really like enlightenment |
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| 01:54.46 | THEoracle | hello all |
| 01:55.28 | Ryuga | hello THEoracle |
| 01:55.46 | Ryuga | would anyone know where I could get some of the e-module source codes? |
| 01:57.26 | broadcast | :) enlightenment is nice |
| 01:57.35 | broadcast | i like all wm |
| 01:57.48 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, you could chroot into the installed elive and add a user with the original name |
| 01:58.07 | broadcast | but no any wm is util for all works. |
| 02:05.12 | THEoracle | is distrowatch down? |
| 02:05.22 | LinuxNIT | dunno |
| 02:05.31 | THEoracle | can't seem to connect |
| 02:05.34 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 02:05.37 | LinuxNIT | its up |
| 02:05.43 | THEoracle | hmmmmm |
| 02:11.32 | THEoracle | got it.....is revolution not posted there anymore? |
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| 02:12.04 | THEoracle | i was lookin for a mirror to pull from....... |
| 02:12.21 | LinuxNIT | elivecd.org |
| 02:12.28 | LinuxNIT | but yeah its still there |
| 02:12.31 | THEoracle | friend at work is foaming at the mouth to try it out..... |
| 02:12.32 | THEoracle | lol |
| 02:12.56 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 02:13.13 | THEoracle | yeah....i see the entry for it.....but.....don't see a mirror |
| 02:13.21 | THEoracle | just the elivecd.org link |
| 02:13.33 | LinuxNIT | you can download it there |
| 02:13.57 | THEoracle | yeah.....but i wanna "utilize" my t3 |
| 02:14.10 | revdjenk | you might have to click through the pay page, THEoracle |
| 02:14.42 | THEoracle | shit.....runnin it now.....don't have a copy here at work |
| 02:14.51 | LinuxNIT | the eliveservers dont let you download fast enough? |
| 02:14.56 | THEoracle | he just leaves in like 30 min or so |
| 02:15.04 | LinuxNIT | i can download at like 300k and im on dsl |
| 02:15.08 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 02:15.13 | THEoracle | where? |
| 02:15.16 | LinuxNIT | dsl is my limiting factor |
| 02:15.24 | THEoracle | not the beta |
| 02:15.24 | LinuxNIT | the ones on the elive site |
| 02:15.50 | revdjenk | I was d/l at 10k at lunch time....dsl...pooh.... |
| 02:16.11 | LinuxNIT | dsl changes a LOT per region |
| 02:16.27 | revdjenk | yep...and the mountains must do something...hee hee |
| 02:16.44 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 02:16.51 | THEoracle | off the free download i'm gettin 5k |
| 02:16.52 | THEoracle | lol |
| 02:17.00 | THEoracle | not gonna work |
| 02:17.03 | THEoracle | :-( |
| 02:17.10 | revdjenk | jsut cleaned 4 trojans and 1 worm off my wifes win box at church today!!!! |
| 02:17.23 | THEoracle | not surprised by that |
| 02:17.48 | LinuxNIT | you could make a small donation |
| 02:18.06 | THEoracle | not for someone else i'm not..... |
| 02:18.13 | THEoracle | i already have |
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| 02:20.26 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 02:21.05 | THEoracle | pulling it now.....@ 1200k i might add |
| 02:21.17 | THEoracle | :-P |
| 02:21.26 | LinuxNIT | see what a little hunting can do |
| 02:21.47 | THEoracle | yep.....i don't have any idea why a bank has it tho |
| 02:22.00 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 02:22.02 | LinuxNIT | bank? |
| 02:22.26 | THEoracle | apparently someone at amsouth bank has a copy on their workstation |
| 02:22.32 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 02:22.36 | THEoracle | lol |
| 02:22.36 | LinuxNIT | and its public? |
| 02:22.39 | LinuxNIT | lmfao |
| 02:22.45 | THEoracle | for me yes |
| 02:22.48 | THEoracle | average joe no |
| 02:22.52 | LinuxNIT | better hope its the same iso |
| 02:23.11 | THEoracle | i'll know in 'bout 10 min |
| 02:23.14 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 02:23.16 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 02:23.30 | revdjenk | apt dance |
| 02:23.32 | apt | dance is, like, ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' elive, stayin' elive.. |
| 02:23.48 | LinuxNIT | apt jump |
| 02:23.49 | apt | bonk bonk bonk |
| 02:23.50 | THEoracle | roflmao |
| 02:24.08 | THEoracle | that would be good for a login |
| 02:24.45 | LinuxNIT | man i wish wine would hurry up and compile |
| 02:24.52 | LinuxNIT | im thirsty |
| 02:25.08 | THEoracle | what ver LinuxNIT? |
| 02:25.29 | LinuxNIT | am i compiling? |
| 02:25.39 | LinuxNIT | 9.22 |
| 02:25.46 | THEoracle | yeah |
| 02:25.50 | LinuxNIT | 0.9.22 |
| 02:26.02 | THEoracle | you ever use cedega? |
| 02:26.11 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 02:26.19 | LinuxNIT | its for gaming isnt it |
| 02:26.30 | THEoracle | yeah....but regular apps work too |
| 02:26.52 | THEoracle | i actually installed it the first time to run WinRAR |
| 02:26.55 | THEoracle | lol |
| 02:27.33 | revdjenk | 9.22? |
| 02:27.41 | revdjenk | yikes. still have 9.10 |
| 02:27.44 | revdjenk | :( |
| 02:27.53 | revdjenk | if I could get to it |
| 02:32.16 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, does the hibernate button works for the last e17? |
| 02:32.30 | LinuxNIT | hibernate button? |
| 02:33.02 | PrinceAMD | left click system, hibernate |
| 02:33.59 | LinuxNIT | what version are you on? |
| 02:34.37 | PrinceAMD | .035 |
| 02:34.42 | LinuxNIT | wierd |
| 02:34.49 | LinuxNIT | yours has a hibernate option? |
| 02:34.54 | PrinceAMD | yep |
| 02:35.02 | LinuxNIT | odd |
| 02:35.12 | PrinceAMD | suspend hybernate reboot and shutdown |
| 02:35.20 | PrinceAMD | and logout |
| 02:35.32 | LinuxNIT | mine has screen lock and logout |
| 02:35.44 | LinuxNIT | restart and exit are under "enlightenment" |
| 02:35.53 | PrinceAMD | same here |
| 02:35.57 | revdjenk | they were mentioned on the news page of get-e i believe, that they had been added |
| 02:36.16 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 02:36.17 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 02:36.27 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, wanna see a shot |
| 02:36.31 | LinuxNIT | but im not on cvs so i could be a bit behind |
| 02:36.33 | revdjenk | why won't he believe us |
| 02:36.42 | PrinceAMD | hehe |
| 02:36.47 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, its not that i dont believe you |
| 02:37.01 | revdjenk | just hankerin for the latest |
| 02:37.09 | LinuxNIT | im just saying its odd that he and i have the same version number and we have different system options |
| 02:37.23 | revdjenk | you ahve different systems...? |
| 02:37.45 | LinuxNIT | system submenu of the e17 menu |
| 02:38.04 | THEoracle | hey is there a possibility of a mac port of elive? |
| 02:38.10 | revdjenk | yes |
| 02:38.17 | THEoracle | really? |
| 02:38.17 | LinuxNIT | no no ppc support |
| 02:38.26 | revdjenk | comes after .8 I believe |
| 02:38.28 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 02:38.46 | LinuxNIT | now if you have the new x86 mac then i would think it would work |
| 02:38.58 | revdjenk | jk THEoracle |
| 02:39.16 | revdjenk | if enough ppl asked...I guess |
| 02:39.25 | THEoracle | yeah....prolly would |
| 02:39.41 | revdjenk | can't even get a true amd64 version yet |
| 02:40.08 | THEoracle | yeah.....i've been crossing my fingers on that one |
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| 02:40.51 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 02:41.03 | revdjenk | upgreading....sheesh |
| 02:41.05 | LinuxNIT | apparently there was an update... i updated 2 days ago |
| 02:41.10 | revdjenk | come with a spell checker? |
| 02:41.26 | LinuxNIT | upgreeding;) |
| 02:41.42 | LinuxNIT | always neeed more |
| 02:41.59 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 02:43.14 | LinuxNIT | ok restarting e17.... wish me luck |
| 02:43.30 | THEoracle | best of luck |
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| 02:47.33 | LinuxNIT | oopsie |
| 02:47.35 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 02:47.54 | THEoracle | how'd that work for ya |
| 02:47.55 | THEoracle | ? |
| 02:48.03 | LinuxNIT | not so well |
| 02:48.13 | THEoracle | wha? |
| 02:48.22 | LinuxNIT | gonna go for a system upgrade then distupgrade and see if that fixes it |
| 02:48.43 | LinuxNIT | but what should i expect for using sid+ a pre-alpha wm |
| 02:48.44 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 02:49.04 | LinuxNIT | and not taking the work to compile it myself |
| 02:53.12 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT,http://wiki.elivecd.org/community/en/wiki/howto_cvs_e17 |
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| 03:02.07 | LinuxNIT | i might try that |
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| 03:13.04 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, any progress |
| 03:15.35 | LinuxNIT | its upgrading the system |
| 03:15.41 | LinuxNIT | setting up files now |
| 03:22.13 | PrinceAMD | kool |
| 03:22.31 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, trying my howto or, something else/ |
| 03:22.46 | LinuxNIT | distupgrading |
| 03:23.16 | LinuxNIT | nah ill try the howto on somthing else |
| 03:32.13 | PrinceAMD | k |
| 03:33.39 | LinuxNIT | like my experiminting os |
| 03:33.40 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 03:34.30 | PrinceAMD | hehe |
| 03:34.34 | LinuxNIT | restarting X |
| 03:34.36 | PrinceAMD | works great for me |
| 03:34.37 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 03:34.38 | PrinceAMD | kool |
| 03:36.37 | revdjenk | he's doing all that, AND trying to get my elive back from the dead....wow... |
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| 03:39.13 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 03:39.15 | LinuxNIT | well i have e17 back |
| 03:39.17 | LinuxNIT | lost my config |
| 03:39.23 | LinuxNIT | and no hibernate option |
| 03:39.25 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 03:40.15 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 03:40.16 | revdjenk | yay...um...er...booo |
| 03:40.33 | PrinceAMD | time to do it my way mu hah ha ha |
| 03:40.36 | PrinceAMD | brb |
| 03:40.38 | PrinceAMD | reboot |
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| 03:43.20 | LinuxNIT | its roxy |
| 03:43.32 | roxville | oh yeah! |
| 03:44.36 | revdjenk | wha? pales-rider and roxville on the same night?!?!?!! |
| 03:44.45 | revdjenk | whew...yay...hey |
| 03:45.03 | roxville | hiya revdjenk how you doing? :) |
| 03:45.25 | roxville | pales_rider was here? |
| 03:45.30 | roxville | oh well... |
| 03:45.34 | revdjenk | wonderful...except my venture into .desktop enlightenment has gone all wrong |
| 03:45.48 | roxville | i won't ban her like she did me... |
| 03:45.54 | revdjenk | otherwise...wonderful...a dusting of snow on the ground tonight and everything |
| 03:46.07 | revdjenk | ah. love ya both |
| 03:46.13 | roxville | revdjenk, howd'ya mean? gone wrong? |
| 03:47.07 | revdjenk | ah...when I did the upgrade I didn't have any links to any apps, including term....it looked pretty, but... |
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| 03:47.40 | roxville | bah, who needs those links... |
| 03:47.47 | roxville | :D |
| 03:48.15 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:48.28 | revdjenk | heee....I have all my data....could just start fresh...not the only one doing that eh LinuxNIT? |
| 03:48.48 | spartako | hello and good to all |
| 03:48.55 | revdjenk | well, I tried to reinstall...and even have more probs |
| 03:48.56 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, i thought you said it was crashing after the update? |
| 03:49.00 | revdjenk | hey spartako |
| 03:49.01 | roxville | what was slightly worse... after i did my "upgrade"... |
| 03:49.25 | roxville | i discovered that the stuff inside the image folder and downloads folder... was gone |
| 03:49.32 | revdjenk | well have only a few apps, and can't get wifi even through iwconfig |
| 03:49.43 | roxville | but the stuff in the home folder... was still there |
| 03:49.51 | revdjenk | yes, home is still home |
| 03:49.56 | roxville | so all those pr)n flicks... gone! |
| 03:50.04 | spartako | somebody can recommend me some converter of ogg to mp3? |
| 03:50.11 | roxville | i mean, all my new backgrounds and such... |
| 03:50.24 | revdjenk | whew that was close |
| 03:50.32 | revdjenk | almost had to have confession time |
| 03:50.35 | roxville | hehe, it sure was! |
| 03:50.40 | revdjenk | ogg converter |
| 03:50.44 | revdjenk | hmmm |
| 03:51.06 | revdjenk | spartako, wouldn't you rather have the other way around? |
| 03:51.13 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 03:51.56 | roxville | <revdjenk> well have only a few apps, and can't get wifi even through iwconfig |
| 03:52.05 | roxville | there's something in the menu... |
| 03:52.24 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, iwconfig wont set his wep key |
| 03:52.32 | LinuxNIT | gives a really odd error |
| 03:52.34 | roxville | configurations->applications |
| 03:52.36 | revdjenk | which menu |
| 03:52.39 | LinuxNIT | * roxville |
| 03:52.51 | spartako | revdjenk: I do not understand what you mean to me? |
| 03:53.07 | roxville | he doesn't mean anything to you |
| 03:53.22 | revdjenk | in the linux world, spartako, wouldn't it be better to have ogg? |
| 03:53.26 | roxville | sorry, couldn't help myse;lf :) |
| 03:53.33 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 03:53.45 | spartako | I need a converter files ogg to mp3 |
| 03:53.48 | roxville | spartako, the best you can do, is do a search in synaptic |
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| 03:54.19 | revdjenk | I'm back in the old enlightenment, but w/o wifi and elpanel, and most of my apps] |
| 03:55.01 | revdjenk | so no application choice under config |
| 03:55.05 | revdjenk | thnx |
| 03:55.22 | roxville | so... you need to re-install the new e17... |
| 03:55.29 | spartako | hi PrinceAMD |
| 03:55.29 | LinuxNIT | roxville, is talking about new e17 |
| 03:55.32 | roxville | and do what master david tells you to do |
| 03:55.35 | revdjenk | I'll just save my files and reinstall |
| 03:55.44 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 03:56.06 | roxville | or use elpanel...no |
| 03:56.15 | roxville | but do you have elive-skel? |
| 03:56.17 | revdjenk | LinuxNIT, I tried iwconfig again...no luck |
| 03:56.36 | roxville | do elive-skel...as user |
| 03:56.51 | roxville | in a terminal |
| 03:57.00 | spartako | PrinceAMD: friend download's new dark theme created by you, I copy to the folder themes and does not work to me the sample not to select it to me? |
| 03:57.05 | roxville | and reset your e17 |
| 03:57.19 | roxville | but i must tell you, the new e17 is wonderful |
| 03:57.46 | revdjenk | yes, it was fine, until I restarted!!! |
| 03:57.56 | revdjenk | then got segfaulted |
| 03:58.01 | revdjenk | and then...pooh |
| 03:58.08 | roxville | spartako, i think PrinceAMD 's theme only works with the NEW e17... |
| 03:58.21 | LinuxNIT | there is one for the old e17 as well |
| 03:58.27 | PrinceAMD | spartako, the new e17 dark theme is for a new version of e17 that DOES NOT come with Elive |
| 03:58.50 | PrinceAMD | spartako, the Old e17 theme is for Elive e17 |
| 03:59.30 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, get it as yet? |
| 03:59.43 | LinuxNIT | yes e17 is back up |
| 03:59.45 | spartako | PrinceAMD: revolution already installs new elive |
| 03:59.48 | LinuxNIT | but no hibernate option |
| 04:00.03 | PrinceAMD | that sucks |
| 04:00.26 | roxville | only if you have a lappy... |
| 04:00.47 | revdjenk | i've been hibernating for a while |
| 04:00.55 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD, i renamed the folder from old-e17 to elive-e17 |
| 04:00.56 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 04:01.14 | spartako | PrinceAMD: ?? |
| 04:01.19 | *** join/#elive felix (n=felix@unaffiliated/felix) |
| 04:01.20 | revdjenk | roxville, that worked...had to get out beyond entrance "elive-skel user username" |
| 04:01.23 | PrinceAMD | spartako,http://www.elivedev.org/linuxnit/files/index.php?dir=PrinceAMD/elive-e17/&file=princeamddark.edj |
| 04:01.34 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, thanks |
| 04:01.38 | LinuxNIT | np |
| 04:01.42 | revdjenk | that seemed to work, have default ibar now, and better looking screen |
| 04:02.23 | spartako | PrinceAMD: download one that is called dark.edj that is 3,9 mb |
| 04:02.41 | revdjenk | but still getting same iwconfig error... |
| 04:02.45 | PrinceAMD | spartako, that wont work on your elive |
| 04:03.09 | LinuxNIT | revdjenk, apt-get remove --purge wireless-tools |
| 04:03.15 | roxville | revdjenk, i have to leave the iwcinfig to LinuxNIT sorry |
| 04:03.17 | LinuxNIT | apt-get install wireless-tools |
| 04:03.19 | spartako | PrinceAMD: I have elive 0,5 installed that already is the new one no? |
| 04:03.28 | LinuxNIT | if that dosent fix it i dont know |
| 04:03.29 | PrinceAMD | spartako unless you do this http://wiki.elivecd.org/community/en/wiki/howto_cvs_e17 |
| 04:03.32 | revdjenk | purge first then the second line |
| 04:03.48 | roxville | nah... |
| 04:03.53 | revdjenk | how to apt-get w/o connection? |
| 04:03.59 | LinuxNIT | ethernet? |
| 04:04.10 | revdjenk | oh, have to find my cable |
| 04:04.11 | revdjenk | brb |
| 04:05.03 | PrinceAMD | spartako, elive 0.5 is new YES, but some of the files are old, e.g the version of e17 is 0.16.999.026 and my theme the "NEW e17" theme need verions 0.16.999.035 |
| 04:05.08 | roxville | wow, that was kinda drastic, don't you think? |
| 04:05.26 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 04:05.43 | roxville | no? |
| 04:05.43 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 04:05.47 | spartako | PrinceAMD: ahh ok |
| 04:05.55 | PrinceAMD | cool |
| 04:06.03 | roxville | i mean, to a pulp... |
| 04:06.10 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 04:06.34 | *** join/#elive Detox_at_home (n=Detox@user-0c8hgcv.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 04:06.38 | revdjenk | at least my probs have gotten me intimate with my Zaurus again |
| 04:06.44 | spartako | as I must do for unistall my old e17 |
| 04:06.56 | roxville | intimate? |
| 04:07.06 | revdjenk | ak close |
| 04:07.21 | revdjenk | but it uses linux! |
| 04:07.41 | roxville | "aquainted" |
| 04:07.47 | revdjenk | better |
| 04:07.54 | roxville | hell yeah! |
| 04:08.04 | roxville | "intimate"...pfft! |
| 04:08.27 | roxville | :D |
| 04:08.32 | Detox_at_home | hello folks |
| 04:08.41 | spartako | PrinceAMD: I need a converter files ogg to mp3 |
| 04:08.51 | roxville | it is good to see you again... e17 or not... |
| 04:09.07 | PrinceAMD | spartako, dont think so, |
| 04:09.14 | Detox_at_home | revdjenk ,,, I posted you a private chat message |
| 04:09.25 | PrinceAMD | spartako,is ogg working in xmms |
| 04:09.25 | roxville | hiya Detox_at_home |
| 04:09.44 | spartako | PrinceAMD: like unistall my old e17? |
| 04:10.06 | roxville | yup |
| 04:10.17 | PrinceAMD | huh |
| 04:10.31 | spartako | PrinceAMD> I have all my music in ogg but my ipod does not read ogg files |
| 04:11.12 | PrinceAMD | spartako, oh, well i think you will have to convert it to mp3 |
| 04:11.21 | spartako | PrinceAMD: yes |
| 04:11.26 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 04:11.27 | roxville | spartako, seems like audacity can do it |
| 04:12.49 | roxville | maybe rezound too |
| 04:13.36 | *** join/#elive LinuxNIT (n=LinuxNIT@ppp-70-254-8-228.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) |
| 04:13.53 | Detox_at_home | howdy LinuxNIT |
| 04:14.03 | LinuxNIT | hi |
| 04:14.23 | Detox_at_home | am loading 2.17-2 now |
| 04:14.37 | spartako | PrinceAMD: then friend since I make to remove old e17 and to install the new one? |
| 04:15.10 | Detox_at_home | first go-around got bad error and boot locked == m "unexpected IRQ trap at Vector 50" when I booted with the wifi card in |
| 04:15.16 | LinuxNIT | spartako, there is a version of PrinceAMD's theme that works with you version of e17 |
| 04:15.17 | PrinceAMD | spartako, are you in e16 |
| 04:15.32 | Detox_at_home | googled but found nothing of use |
| 04:16.00 | PrinceAMD | spartako, apt-get install soundconverter (to convert ogg to mp3 or bla bla) |
| 04:16.00 | spartako | LinuxNIT: no la que quiero instalar es la nueva |
| 04:16.13 | revdjenk | ok, found cable, apt-get and apt-got...and now checking |
| 04:17.09 | roxville | are you fondling your zaurus? |
| 04:17.21 | revdjenk | nah...too small |
| 04:17.29 | LinuxNIT | wtf |
| 04:17.30 | revdjenk | getting same iwconfig error |
| 04:17.40 | roxville | :D |
| 04:18.29 | roxville | not at the error... sorry :/ |
| 04:18.46 | LinuxNIT | then i don tknow |
| 04:19.54 | revdjenk | everything else is back to shape |
| 04:20.17 | revdjenk | I haven't checked for the apps I added, but they should be there.eh |
| 04:21.13 | spartako | PrinceAMD: where I can download icon eap for my elive? |
| 04:21.22 | roxville | remember that the new e17 mainly uses .desktop icons, not eaps |
| 04:21.47 | LinuxNIT | roxville, remember that not everyone is on the newe17 |
| 04:22.04 | PrinceAMD | spartako, i have some up on www.princeamd.co.nr and. |
| 04:22.24 | spartako | PrinceAMD: thanks |
| 04:22.51 | roxville | LinuxNIT, what i meant was: he tried it... |
| 04:23.07 | roxville | and apparently, he installed some apps... |
| 04:23.15 | revdjenk | some of us or WAY behind |
| 04:23.20 | PrinceAMD | http://gulidesktop.ch/ spartako |
| 04:23.46 | revdjenk | I haven't seen thana lately...is be busy bringing elive into the desktop version....or what? |
| 04:24.44 | roxville | miffed, even |
| 04:25.12 | revdjenk | you still would have had to sit with that killer |
| 04:25.15 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 04:25.22 | roxville | revdjenk, i haven't seen thana either... i wrote him an email today, but no reply yet... he may be taking a few days off... to regroup |
| 04:25.55 | revdjenk | yes, enlightenment has suddenly gotten a lot of movement... |
| 04:26.12 | revdjenk | I'm rebooting... |
| 04:26.12 | roxville | last time he took a couple of days off, 5.1 came out |
| 04:26.20 | revdjenk | see if that fixes anything |
| 04:26.36 | *** join/#elive damosu (n=damosu@unaffiliated/damosu) |
| 04:27.07 | roxville | i can't for my life understand why and how he can work faster while NOT being on irc... |
| 04:27.19 | revdjenk | I d/l it but when I tried it live, didn't seem to help my wifi any, in fact could neev connect with it |
| 04:27.24 | roxville | or more efficiently |
| 04:27.42 | roxville | ouch... not good... |
| 04:27.58 | revdjenk | hee hee...I know LinuxNIT can update his system, twice, and still help me in the meantime |
| 04:28.07 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:28.13 | roxville | yeah... |
| 04:28.32 | roxville | and while reading that book on feudalism in japan... |
| 04:28.44 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, what theme do u use for your e17 |
| 04:28.54 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 04:29.01 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD, a modified cthulian |
| 04:29.05 | revdjenk | in the 13th century...in german |
| 04:29.20 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, yep cthulian, is really sweet |
| 04:29.23 | roxville | yeah |
| 04:29.25 | revdjenk | old font |
| 04:29.27 | revdjenk | ! |
| 04:30.03 | roxville | with a prologue in yiddisch |
| 04:30.38 | revdjenk | still no key listed, and funny error |
| 04:30.54 | spartako | los .eap an sido sustituido por .desktop ?? |
| 04:30.54 | roxville | "the schmuck that wrote this book, never schtupped his own wife!" |
| 04:31.11 | roxville | or something like that... |
| 04:31.12 | spartako | .eap an replaced by .desktop? |
| 04:31.29 | revdjenk | al the while filling in three sudoku games at once |
| 04:31.40 | LinuxNIT | spartako, the version of e17 that comes with elive uses eaps. in the new version of e17 both eaps and .desktop files are supported. |
| 04:31.43 | roxville | roxville decides that he is not being funny at all tonight, and bids everyone a blessed night |
| 04:31.57 | roxville | :) |
| 04:31.58 | LinuxNIT | spartako, PrinceAMD has a theme for both versions. |
| 04:32.00 | revdjenk | yeah |
| 04:32.07 | revdjenk | we love ya soatola |
| 04:32.07 | LinuxNIT | spartako, you just have to download the right one |
| 04:32.15 | revdjenk | whoops |
| 04:32.57 | spartako | LinuxNIT: my version of e17 is 0.16.999.026 |
| 04:33.41 | LinuxNIT | spartako, that is the one that came with elive right? |
| 04:33.57 | spartako | ok |
| 04:34.11 | LinuxNIT | it uses .eap files |
| 04:34.36 | LinuxNIT | http://elivedev.org/linuxnit/files/index.php?dir=PrinceAMD/ |
| 04:34.57 | LinuxNIT | spartako, you can find PrinceAMD's eaps at that link |
| 04:35.14 | LinuxNIT | and his theme for your version of e17 is in the folder called elive-e17 |
| 04:35.15 | spartako | yes |
| 04:35.24 | spartako | yes |
| 04:38.33 | spartako | ls |
| 04:40.26 | PrinceAMD | goodnight all |
| 04:44.15 | revdjenk | LinuxNIT, I found what may be the problem....my home and elive partitions are not mounted! |
| 04:44.19 | revdjenk | could that be it? |
| 04:44.38 | revdjenk | thunar can't find them |
| 04:44.57 | LinuxNIT | elive parition |
| 04:44.58 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 04:45.02 | revdjenk | but when I opened oowriter, it found files on it |
| 04:45.06 | revdjenk | what is going on |
| 04:45.26 | LinuxNIT | did the files open? |
| 04:45.38 | revdjenk | thunar lists only my xp partition and the extended partition which holds my linux |
| 04:45.54 | revdjenk | didn't try a file, will do that now |
| 04:46.12 | revdjenk | yep |
| 04:46.29 | LinuxNIT | i dunno what you have done |
| 04:46.30 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:46.52 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 04:46.55 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 04:51.25 | revdjenk | I too am going to bed...I don't have wifi, don't have my calendar, don't have a brain |
| 04:51.41 | LinuxNIT | to be honest i think the install messed up |
| 04:51.44 | revdjenk | good night and thank you LinuxNIT for sticking with me |
| 04:51.50 | LinuxNIT | good night |
| 04:51.53 | LinuxNIT | your welecome |
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| 05:46.38 | Elive_user21 | hello all |
| 05:48.42 | LinuxNIT | hello Elive_user21 |
| 05:49.09 | Elive_user21 | Hi LinuxNit |
| 05:49.54 | LinuxNIT | how are you? |
| 05:50.16 | Elive_user21 | I'm doing good thank you |
| 05:50.35 | Elive_user21 | First time here, first time elive usr |
| 05:50.46 | LinuxNIT | well welcome to elive/#elive |
| 05:50.59 | Elive_user21 | hey thanks for the welcome |
| 05:51.31 | Elive_user21 | where about are you from, if I may ask? |
| 05:51.40 | LinuxNIT | USA |
| 05:51.49 | Elive_user21 | me too, what part? |
| 05:51.54 | LinuxNIT | OKC |
| 05:52.01 | Elive_user21 | nice |
| 05:52.10 | LinuxNIT | you? |
| 05:52.30 | Elive_user21 | I'm in Sacramento, Ca, but from OH |
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| 05:53.13 | Elive_user21 | u chat here alot? |
| 05:53.30 | LinuxNIT | tooo much |
| 05:53.32 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 05:53.48 | Elive_user21 | well this elive thing is sweet |
| 05:54.05 | LinuxNIT | yeah i really like it |
| 05:54.10 | Elive_user21 | serioulsy thinking about installing permently |
| 05:54.13 | LinuxNIT | looks good and works well |
| 05:54.30 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 05:55.17 | Elive_user21 | messed around with suse in the past, but not to good with linux, not yet |
| 05:55.48 | LinuxNIT | yeah i didnt care for suse.... its not bad but i prefer debian |
| 05:56.13 | Elive_user21 | not real good with any distro, but this elive thing rocks |
| 05:56.33 | LinuxNIT | well youll learn. |
| 05:56.39 | LinuxNIT | you just gotta dig in |
| 05:56.43 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 05:56.59 | LinuxNIT | and this place is pretty friendly to new user.... |
| 05:57.06 | LinuxNIT | so dont be afraid to ask questions |
| 05:57.10 | Elive_user21 | seems like it |
| 05:58.04 | Elive_user21 | is this pretty easy to install? I mean making it a dual boot system with windows? |
| 05:58.11 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 05:58.27 | LinuxNIT | just dont DELETE ANY partittions |
| 05:58.40 | Elive_user21 | yeah, that would be bad |
| 05:58.49 | LinuxNIT | if you have windows installed and you only have one hd then you have to resize it |
| 05:58.52 | LinuxNIT | NOT delete it |
| 05:59.27 | Elive_user21 | yeah just one hard drive, on a dell laptop |
| 05:59.53 | LinuxNIT | is it a newer dell or older? |
| 06:00.26 | Elive_user21 | it's an inspiron 700m, not to old |
| 06:01.10 | LinuxNIT | do you know what the mother board chipset is? |
| 06:01.27 | Elive_user21 | not right off hand |
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| 06:01.52 | Elive_user21 | but I haven't had any problems running elive from the disk |
| 06:02.39 | LinuxNIT | yeah then you should be fine... im just curious cause i have seen a lot of really new dells not boot the livecd.... so i was wondering what chipset your mb was |
| 06:03.19 | dunkel | i'm thinking of upgrading my GPU, is it easy with Elive? I have no clue on how it's done on linux...i just wanna know if i should look into it today or next week... |
| 06:04.18 | LinuxNIT | dunkel, what card? |
| 06:04.28 | spartako | as I install gnome icon theme in elive knows somebody? |
| 06:04.46 | dunkel | LinuxNIT: going from R9800 pro agp to GF7600GS i suppose |
| 06:04.56 | LinuxNIT | dunkel, what chipset? |
| 06:05.20 | LinuxNIT | spartako, do you mean for icons in thunar or for icons on ibar? |
| 06:05.36 | dunkel | LinuxNIT: you mean mobo? VIA |
| 06:05.39 | LinuxNIT | is the gf7.... a nvidea? |
| 06:05.41 | spartako | thunar |
| 06:05.43 | dunkel | yeah |
| 06:05.48 | spartako | LinuxNIT: thunar |
| 06:06.08 | LinuxNIT | dunkel, nvidea should not give you any trouble |
| 06:06.27 | spartako | to change icon in applications GTK2 |
| 06:06.30 | dunkel | LinuxNIT: so the switch itself is pretty simple and painless? |
| 06:06.37 | LinuxNIT | dunkel, should be |
| 06:06.49 | LinuxNIT | youll have to change the driver in the xorg.conf file |
| 06:06.58 | dunkel | and that's about it? |
| 06:07.22 | LinuxNIT | spartako, create a .icons folder your users home directory |
| 06:07.34 | LinuxNIT | dunkel, as far as i know.... i have never done it |
| 06:07.45 | LinuxNIT | you might have to install the drivers as well |
| 06:08.14 | LinuxNIT | spartako, did you install the theme with apt-get or synaptic? |
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| 06:08.43 | spartako | it already creates it now as I put icons to him |
| 06:09.16 | LinuxNIT | spartako, did you install the theme with apt-get or synaptic? |
| 06:09.28 | spartako | for example if I have them in tarball |
| 06:09.34 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 06:09.54 | LinuxNIT | as user do this |
| 06:09.55 | LinuxNIT | cd |
| 06:10.00 | LinuxNIT | mkdir .icons |
| 06:10.05 | spartako | aja |
| 06:10.21 | LinuxNIT | then untar the tarball and place that directory in .icons |
| 06:10.31 | spartako | yes |
| 06:10.32 | LinuxNIT | wget http://www.elivedev.org/linuxnit/files/gtk-icon-themes |
| 06:10.43 | LinuxNIT | ./gtk-icon-themes |
| 06:10.48 | spartako | I am going to prove |
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| 06:12.34 | Elive_user21 | hey LinuxNIT, 2 questoins if I may... |
| 06:12.43 | LinuxNIT | chmod +x gtk-icon-themes |
| 06:12.45 | LinuxNIT | ./gtk-icon-themes |
| 06:12.47 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user21, sure |
| 06:12.57 | LinuxNIT | ill answer if i can |
| 06:12.59 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
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| 06:13.33 | Elive_user21 | #1 how much room shold I allow for elive on a 40g hard drive |
| 06:13.53 | spartako | LinuxNIT: that that does scripts that download? |
| 06:14.07 | LinuxNIT | minimum is 2 gigs i think |
| 06:14.30 | LinuxNIT | but if you want room to play i would use more like 5 |
| 06:14.32 | Elive_user21 | #2 do I need to upgrades or anything or do any like that with elive? |
| 06:14.59 | LinuxNIT | NEEED to no it should work fine the way it is |
| 06:15.05 | LinuxNIT | CAN you yes |
| 06:15.33 | LinuxNIT | if you install new programs it will upgrade other libraries or programs if it has to |
| 06:15.54 | LinuxNIT | spartako, that script should help you change iconf themes |
| 06:16.08 | LinuxNIT | run it... chose the theme you want.... restart thunar |
| 06:16.17 | Elive_user21 | is that the apt-get command you mentioned before? |
| 06:16.52 | LinuxNIT | thats one way of doing it |
| 06:16.56 | LinuxNIT | apt-get is command line |
| 06:17.01 | LinuxNIT | synaptic is graphical |
| 06:17.12 | Elive_user21 | ooo, okay |
| 06:17.15 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user21, i reccommend you create a /home partition |
| 06:17.27 | spartako | LinuxNIT: as I execute scripts? |
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| 06:17.35 | LinuxNIT | this is where all of the users configs and files will be stored |
| 06:17.54 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user21, this will allow you to reinstall if you have to with out harming user configs/files |
| 06:18.10 | LinuxNIT | spartako, chmod +x gtk-icon-themes |
| 06:18.17 | LinuxNIT | ./gtk-icon-themes |
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| 06:18.43 | LinuxNIT | spartako, or you can do it manually if you want to... just let me know |
| 06:19.31 | Elive_user21 | will elive ask me if I want to creat that, of is this something I have to do on my own? |
| 06:20.22 | LinuxNIT | you will have to create it when the installer opens gparted(the partition program) later the installer will ask you if you want use one |
| 06:20.31 | LinuxNIT | you will also need a swap partition |
| 06:20.46 | LinuxNIT | how much ram do you use? |
| 06:20.54 | LinuxNIT | have |
| 06:21.25 | Elive_user21 | right now 512mb, but will be going up to 1gig soon |
| 06:22.26 | LinuxNIT | then a 512 mb swap partition will do you just fine unless you plan to do highly graphic intensive work |
| 06:22.48 | Elive_user21 | no, not on my laptop any |
| 06:23.18 | Elive_user21 | just the basics, office workm surfing, etc |
| 06:23.44 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 06:24.40 | Elive_user21 | well, like you said, i'm just gona dive in and try to install this, I just don't want to mess up too bad, because there are still some things in windows that i need |
| 06:24.54 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 06:25.01 | LinuxNIT | just dont delete any partitions |
| 06:25.02 | Elive_user21 | there is a way to mount my c: from elive right? |
| 06:25.02 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 06:25.16 | LinuxNIT | yes.... you can read it but not write to it |
| 06:25.31 | dunkel | LinuxNIT: do you know about ntfs-3g? |
| 06:25.42 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 06:25.58 | dunkel | ok, was wondering if it was ok to use in elive |
| 06:26.00 | bouba | eheheh dunkel i would try it :D |
| 06:26.07 | dunkel | write access to ntfs partitions |
| 06:26.51 | dunkel | bouba: ummm? |
| 06:26.52 | dunkel | :) |
| 06:26.55 | LinuxNIT | i dont know that elive would have a problem with it but i have noidea |
| 06:27.02 | Elive_user21 | write to ntfs partitions from within linux dunkel? |
| 06:27.12 | dunkel | yep |
| 06:27.25 | Elive_user21 | that would be sweet |
| 06:27.32 | dunkel | worked fine on dapper a while back |
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| 06:27.44 | bouba | dunkel i would try ntfs-3g :). maybe in these days:D |
| 06:27.45 | dunkel | it was easy to setup as well |
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| 06:28.04 | dunkel | bouba: ok, let me know how it goes :) |
| 06:28.17 | Elive_user21 | I have alot to learn, but that would be one of the first things om=n my list |
| 06:28.24 | bouba | now i'm reading how does it works:D |
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| 06:30.05 | Elive_user21 | can I open like ms word documents in elive, and work on them? Or is there something special you have to do? |
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| 06:30.44 | LinuxNIT | open office can read ms word documents and save in that format |
| 06:32.34 | Elive_user21 | well, you guys have been alot of help, and I'm ready to take the plung. Wish me luck, and If all goes well, you'll see me again very soon. |
| 06:32.49 | LinuxNIT | well stay here during the install |
| 06:32.57 | LinuxNIT | let us know if you have questions |
| 06:33.17 | Elive_user21 | I will, and thans alot. |
| 06:33.23 | LinuxNIT | youre welcome |
| 06:33.52 | dunkel | i wonder if there's ever going to be force feedback on linux |
| 06:34.08 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 06:34.21 | dunkel | 'cause that's about the only thing keeping me from switching completely to elive |
| 06:34.38 | Elive_user21 | before I go, when I install this, all the drivers should work just like now right? I mean I'm basically just copying the same files from this disk right?? |
| 06:35.01 | LinuxNIT | should |
| 06:35.25 | Elive_user21 | Yeah I know, should being the key...LOL |
| 06:40.35 | Elive_user21 | Hey dunkel, I think I saw you aking about installing themes earlier, is that an easy thing to do |
| 06:41.29 | dunkel | Elive_user21: i would say no |
| 06:41.36 | dunkel | don't remember asking thou |
| 06:41.37 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 06:41.47 | LinuxNIT | why would you say no? |
| 06:42.09 | Elive_user21 | sorry might have the wrong person |
| 06:42.32 | dunkel | LinuxNIT: i had a hard time with themes... |
| 06:42.44 | LinuxNIT | dunkel, e17 themes? |
| 06:42.50 | dunkel | i still got 2 different themes on different menus |
| 06:42.53 | dunkel | yes |
| 06:43.05 | LinuxNIT | did you get them from get-e.org? |
| 06:43.18 | dunkel | i really don't remember |
| 06:43.30 | dunkel | i't e17_clean |
| 06:43.39 | dunkel | or something.. |
| 06:43.46 | LinuxNIT | well the ones on get-e.org are for a newer version of e17 and those themes are not compatible |
| 06:44.01 | dunkel | the 'blingbling' -theme that's default keeps popping up on menus here and there |
| 06:44.06 | LinuxNIT | the themes in the repo work quite well and install easily |
| 06:44.28 | dunkel | LinuxNIT: now that you said repo i remember that i got this from synaptic |
| 06:44.43 | LinuxNIT | whats it called? |
| 06:44.57 | dunkel | e17_clean IIRC |
| 06:45.13 | dunkel | i'm whoring on XP right now... |
| 06:45.22 | LinuxNIT | omg how could you |
| 06:45.23 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 06:45.41 | Elive_user21 | ok guys |
| 06:46.03 | Elive_user21 | I'm trying to install and it brought up my hard drive table |
| 06:46.22 | LinuxNIT | you chose gparted right? |
| 06:46.47 | Elive_user21 | yes, it shows I have 3 partitions, and all are locked |
| 06:46.51 | Elive_user21 | here is a list |
| 06:48.13 | Elive_user21 | /dev/hda1 fat 16, /dev/hda2 ntfs, and /dev/hda3/ fat32 |
| 06:48.24 | LinuxNIT | fat16? |
| 06:48.35 | LinuxNIT | :o |
| 06:48.38 | Elive_user21 | yeah?? |
| 06:48.46 | dunkel | huh |
| 06:48.53 | LinuxNIT | how big are each? |
| 06:49.12 | Elive_user21 | ok 1 sec |
| 06:52.01 | Elive_user21 | /dev/hda1 fat 16 ia 47.03 mib, /dev/hda2 ntfs is 33.59 gib, and /mnt/hda3 is 3.62 gib. But I don't know why they are all locked?? |
| 06:52.17 | Elive_user21 | one more thing |
| 06:52.21 | LinuxNIT | shit |
| 06:52.33 | LinuxNIT | well they are locked because they are mounted |
| 06:52.46 | Elive_user21 | I do have 7.84 mib unallocated |
| 06:53.55 | LinuxNIT | did your computer come with a windows cd ? |
| 06:53.55 | Elive_user21 | is that fat 16 partiton like the mbr table or something?? |
| 06:54.34 | Elive_user21 | yeah, I have 3 computers |
| 06:54.43 | LinuxNIT | i dont know about the fat16 partition |
| 06:54.50 | Elive_user21 | my dell has a windows cd |
| 06:55.04 | Elive_user21 | I bought a windows cd for my home pc |
| 06:55.18 | Elive_user21 | and we have an ibook |
| 06:55.42 | LinuxNIT | most likely that 3 gig partiton is a recovery partition and contains a recovery image of the windows install |
| 06:56.00 | Elive_user21 | that makes sense |
| 06:56.29 | LinuxNIT | but since i dont know how your system is setup icould be wrong |
| 06:57.25 | Elive_user21 | so I have to unmount the partiton to resize it, is there something special I need to do? |
| 06:57.42 | Elive_user21 | never mind |
| 06:57.45 | Elive_user21 | I see it |
| 06:57.48 | Elive_user21 | sorry |
| 06:57.57 | LinuxNIT | well im not sure if it will let you resize the 33 gig partition |
| 06:58.04 | LinuxNIT | since it is in the middle |
| 06:58.22 | Elive_user21 | yeah kinda funny, but here goes |
| 06:59.38 | Elive_user21 | before I do that, in theroy I should being trying to install to the very first partiton, right? |
| 07:00.31 | LinuxNIT | linux does not care what partition you install it on as long as it is bigenough |
| 07:00.51 | Elive_user21 | cool |
| 07:00.59 | Elive_user21 | thx, here goes |
| 07:02.04 | Elive_user21 | cool it's unlocked, so you said about 2gigs right NIT? |
| 07:02.24 | LinuxNIT | minimum but id do 5 if iwas you |
| 07:02.38 | Elive_user21 | cool I'll do five |
| 07:04.09 | dunkel | I wiped out 200GB's of movies to get elive on a separate HD :) |
| 07:04.21 | Elive_user21 | wow |
| 07:04.25 | dunkel | and they were quality flicks! |
| 07:04.29 | dunkel | :) |
| 07:04.42 | Elive_user21 | Well I made it an even 6 |
| 07:06.26 | LinuxNIT | :) |
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| 07:08.28 | Elive_user21 | ok, that's all done, so now I need to make a new partition, do I make it a primary? |
| 07:08.57 | Elive_user21 | and what file system? ext2? |
| 07:09.46 | LinuxNIT | well if you use ext3 there is supposed to be a driver out there that will let windows read/wirte it |
| 07:09.57 | Elive_user21 | cool |
| 07:10.14 | Elive_user21 | well I'll try it |
| 07:10.43 | LinuxNIT | so how did you set up the partitions? |
| 07:10.58 | Elive_user21 | I haven't yet |
| 07:11.02 | LinuxNIT | ah |
| 07:11.07 | Elive_user21 | getting ready to |
| 07:11.46 | Elive_user21 | and I need to make a swap space right? It doesn't make it automaticlly right? |
| 07:12.01 | LinuxNIT | right you need to make it |
| 07:12.09 | Elive_user21 | cool |
| 07:14.25 | Elive_user21 | ok, so do I have to allocate the hole 6gig's to a new partition, and then make the swap? |
| 07:15.22 | LinuxNIT | how much did you free up? |
| 07:15.50 | Elive_user21 | 6 gigs, |
| 07:16.20 | LinuxNIT | ok so then make a 5.5 gig partition and a 500 mb swap partitions |
| 07:16.31 | Elive_user21 | but i trid to make the swap, and it says I can't make more than 4 partitions?? |
| 07:16.44 | LinuxNIT | ok sorry i fogot this |
| 07:17.26 | LinuxNIT | did you just make the ext3 partiton? |
| 07:17.33 | Elive_user21 | so allocat the hole 6, then resize that? |
| 07:17.41 | Elive_user21 | not yet |
| 07:18.00 | LinuxNIT | have you not resized yet? |
| 07:18.05 | Elive_user21 | yes |
| 07:18.14 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 07:18.21 | LinuxNIT | howmany partitons are created? |
| 07:18.39 | Elive_user21 | 3 right now |
| 07:19.09 | LinuxNIT | ok now allocate all 6 gigs to an extended partitoin |
| 07:19.40 | Elive_user21 | ok |
| 07:19.49 | LinuxNIT | then on that extended partition you can make the ext3 5.5 gig partition and and .5 gig swap partiton |
| 07:20.12 | Elive_user21 | cool, here we go |
| 07:20.44 | LinuxNIT | so did it let you resize the middle partiton or did you delete one? |
| 07:21.13 | Elive_user21 | I resized the middle one |
| 07:21.18 | Elive_user21 | just unmounted it |
| 07:21.35 | LinuxNIT | have you applied changes yet? |
| 07:21.47 | Elive_user21 | yeah |
| 07:21.50 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 07:22.03 | Elive_user21 | getting ready to make the primary |
| 07:22.16 | LinuxNIT | unmount the other partitions |
| 07:22.29 | Elive_user21 | all of them? |
| 07:22.34 | LinuxNIT | dont manipulate then just unmount them |
| 07:22.41 | Elive_user21 | ok |
| 07:22.42 | LinuxNIT | yes all of them |
| 07:23.09 | LinuxNIT | its best to work on a partition talbe when none of the partitions are mounted |
| 07:23.18 | Elive_user21 | ok, done |
| 07:25.03 | LinuxNIT | ok continue |
| 07:25.26 | Elive_user21 | now I'm making a logical partiton |
| 07:26.09 | Elive_user21 | and the swap also |
| 07:27.35 | Elive_user21 | ok done |
| 07:32.13 | Elive_user21 | ok it say wich filesystem would I like to use. Elive recomends reiserFS. Or should I use ext3? |
| 07:32.29 | LinuxNIT | both are good filesystems |
| 07:32.48 | Elive_user21 | just depends on me? |
| 07:32.55 | LinuxNIT | if you want to try the windows driver then use ext3 |
| 07:33.19 | Elive_user21 | ok, thanks, I'll try to speed this up, I know it's late |
| 07:33.32 | LinuxNIT | youre almost done |
| 07:33.34 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 07:33.57 | Elive_user21 | cool |
| 07:34.07 | Elive_user21 | asking for a mount point?? |
| 07:34.11 | LinuxNIT | the install its self does not take long |
| 07:34.22 | LinuxNIT | is it asking for one for / |
| 07:34.34 | Elive_user21 | yes |
| 07:34.56 | LinuxNIT | that is the partition you made that was 5.5 gigs |
| 07:35.03 | LinuxNIT | that is where it will install elive |
| 07:35.11 | Elive_user21 | is this where I make the /home? |
| 07:35.20 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 07:35.22 | Elive_user21 | or do I make it /usr |
| 07:35.29 | LinuxNIT | cancel |
| 07:35.36 | Elive_user21 | ok |
| 07:35.40 | LinuxNIT | you did not make a partitoin for those |
| 07:35.48 | Elive_user21 | no |
| 07:36.09 | Elive_user21 | was I supposed to? |
| 07:36.15 | LinuxNIT | its optional |
| 07:36.22 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:36.28 | Elive_user21 | will do |
| 07:36.35 | LinuxNIT | but it wont kill you to not have it |
| 07:36.58 | Elive_user21 | cool, i'll make the /home |
| 07:37.09 | LinuxNIT | its kinda late |
| 07:37.18 | Elive_user21 | gotcha |
| 07:37.31 | Elive_user21 | can I make them later? |
| 07:37.45 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 07:38.04 | LinuxNIT | with the way your partition table is set up i dont think so |
| 07:39.09 | Elive_user21 | well the only things I've done so far is create the partition, and the swap. Then I formate the partition inext3 |
| 07:39.14 | LinuxNIT | if you really want it then cancel the install when it starts copying files and redo it.... but im going to bed soon |
| 07:39.30 | Elive_user21 | cool |
| 07:39.40 | Elive_user21 | I'm ready for bed myself |
| 07:39.49 | Elive_user21 | thanks for everythin |
| 07:39.54 | LinuxNIT | youre welcome |
| 07:40.15 | LinuxNIT | when it asks where to install grub choose the MBR |
| 07:40.28 | Elive_user21 | will do |
| 07:40.38 | Elive_user21 | hope to talk to you again |
| 07:40.45 | LinuxNIT | im sure you will |
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| 07:40.56 | LinuxNIT | btw whats a nick ill know you by? |
| 07:41.10 | LinuxNIT | you can change your nick in xchat by typing /nick newnick |
| 07:41.29 | LinuxNIT | or clicking on the box with your name in it |
| 07:41.29 | Elive_user21 | unspoken000. Try not to run my mouth unless I have something useful to say |
| 07:41.36 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 07:42.10 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 07:42.21 | newnick | oops |
| 07:42.27 | LinuxNIT | everyone does it |
| 07:47.14 | unspoken000 | night all |
| 07:47.19 | LinuxNIT | night |
| 07:47.36 | unspoken000 | thanks again |
| 07:47.44 | LinuxNIT | any time |
| 07:48.14 | unspoken000 | hey do I have to register my name |
| 07:48.18 | unspoken000 | sorry |
| 07:48.24 | LinuxNIT | have to no |
| 07:48.28 | LinuxNIT | can you yes |
| 07:48.33 | unspoken000 | cool |
| 07:48.35 | LinuxNIT | if you dont someone can take it |
| 07:48.47 | unspoken000 | cool, I will |
| 07:49.09 | unspoken000 | can you point me in the right direction? |
| 07:49.16 | LinuxNIT | freenode.net has all the info you need on registering |
| 07:49.32 | unspoken000 | no more questions I promise |
| 07:49.37 | unspoken000 | have a good one |
| 07:49.48 | LinuxNIT | you too |
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| 12:21.34 | Detox | hello all |
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| 12:27.58 | dererk[w] | Buenos Dias! / g'Morning |
| 12:28.20 | Detox | howdy |
| 12:30.50 | dererk[w] | :) |
| 12:31.14 | Detox | doing well? |
| 12:32.44 | dererk[w] | doing pretty fine |
| 12:32.51 | dererk[w] | and you? |
| 12:32.54 | Detox | greawt to hear |
| 12:33.13 | Detox | beginning again on "will my wifi ever work" round 5 |
| 12:33.32 | dererk[w] | hehehe |
| 12:33.53 | Detox | laugh if you will............. |
| 12:34.31 | dererk[w] | :-/ |
| 12:34.36 | dererk[w] | I don't laugh |
| 12:35.11 | Detox | ok ,,,,, grin if you will I will figure it out! |
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| 12:45.00 | bodha | coucous tous |
| 12:54.02 | Detox | what does taht mean? |
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| 13:40.54 | dererk[w] | Detox, "give me your money or I'll put a Windoze Vista CD on your mouth" |
| 13:40.59 | dererk[w] | :-P |
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| 14:05.28 | Detox | i think I have the solution for my mn520 card but need help |
| 14:06.37 | Detox | yoooohooooo |
| 14:09.37 | Detox | Derek you areound?? |
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| 14:27.37 | dererk[w] | I'm dererk[w] |
| 14:27.41 | dererk[w] | and yes, I'm here |
| 14:27.50 | Detox | ahhhhhhh |
| 14:27.55 | Detox | found a glitch |
| 14:28.00 | Detox | need help looking at it |
| 14:28.07 | Detox | during startup in elive |
| 14:28.11 | Detox | get a mknod error |
| 14:28.22 | Detox | but is scrolls by so fast i cannot read it |
| 14:28.31 | Detox | where can I loook at this? |
| 14:28.35 | dererk[w] | during boot ? |
| 14:28.51 | Detox | yes |
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| 14:29.25 | Detox | which log in var? |
| 14:30.52 | dererk[w] | maybe /var/log/messages or /var/log/klog |
| 14:31.30 | dererk[w] | maybe /var/log/messages or /var/log/kern.log *. |
| 14:35.49 | Detox | lots of errors |
| 14:35.57 | Detox | mainly on irq's |
| 14:36.20 | Detox | but cannot find any reference to mkmod |
| 14:37.03 | Detox | and, when i put my prism2 pcmcia wifi in prior to boot , the machine loscks |
| 14:37.29 | Detox | think i will remove the partitioins reinstall and see what happens |
| 14:38.13 | Detox | getting lots of errors,, maybe my re-isntall didn't go well... |
| 14:38.36 | Detox | what about bios of the laptop? leave option for PNP OS? |
| 14:49.49 | dererk[w] | Detox, could you explain the whole problem ? |
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| 15:00.48 | Detox | sorry |
| 15:00.53 | Detox | was away |
| 15:01.02 | Detox | ok how mych time you ahve? |
| 15:01.04 | Detox | 15 min? |
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| 15:02.21 | Detox | >>>> derek[w] <<<<<<< are you still here? |
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| 15:06.51 | Elive_user74 | anybody here speaks german ??? |
| 15:07.09 | Detox | not me sorry |
| 15:07.29 | Elive_user74 | have big problems wtith elive |
| 15:07.32 | Detox | had some basic skills but that was years ago |
| 15:08.22 | Elive_user74 | my hd gets erver day fuler and fuller |
| 15:08.45 | Detox | your HD gets what? |
| 15:08.45 | Elive_user74 | is there no garbage |
| 15:08.50 | Detox | oh ok |
| 15:09.06 | Elive_user74 | full |
| 15:09.10 | Detox | is there another OS on it like windows? |
| 15:09.30 | Elive_user74 | over 5 gb i haven anything installed ?? |
| 15:09.36 | Elive_user74 | no |
| 15:10.19 | Detox | elive will take 3 gig for / dir and you need a good 128 meg for swap,, and then any other partitions you may have |
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| 15:10.53 | Detox | are you on high speed connection or dial-up via phone line? |
| 15:11.13 | Elive_user74 | high speed |
| 15:11.18 | Detox | ok |
| 15:11.25 | Detox | how big is your hd? |
| 15:11.34 | Elive_user74 | 40 g |
| 15:11.46 | Detox | and how many partitions? |
| 15:11.59 | Elive_user74 | 4 |
| 15:12.15 | Detox | swap , root, home, and ? |
| 15:12.25 | Elive_user74 | media |
| 15:12.28 | Detox | k |
| 15:12.40 | Detox | which partition is filling up? |
| 15:12.48 | Elive_user74 | root |
| 15:13.02 | Elive_user74 | i have cleared tmp |
| 15:13.20 | Detox | is it possible you are saving files in two places? |
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| 15:14.14 | Elive_user74 | no but when i am delete a file is it cleared or what ??? |
| 15:14.49 | Detox | yes, when y ou delete a file it is "gone" |
| 15:14.59 | Detox | how much room do you have in /root? |
| 15:15.11 | Elive_user74 | 4 gigs |
| 15:15.28 | Elive_user74 | too little |
| 15:15.30 | Detox | how large is the partition I should ahve asked first |
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| 15:15.57 | Detox | hello roxville |
| 15:16.00 | Elive_user74 | oh understand |
| 15:16.16 | roxville | hey :) |
| 15:16.22 | Elive_user74 | swap is 500 |
| 15:16.47 | Elive_user74 | root home etc. all 5000 |
| 15:17.17 | Detox | this does not add up |
| 15:17.25 | Elive_user74 | the rest for mpz and games etc 35500 |
| 15:17.31 | Detox | four partitions at 5 gig = 20 gig |
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| 15:17.48 | kender | hi |
| 15:17.54 | Elive_user74 | ok i must start gparted |
| 15:18.19 | Elive_user74 | iam not fit at this time |
| 15:18.24 | Detox | no prob |
| 15:18.30 | Elive_user74 | many partys last days |
| 15:18.35 | Detox | check partition sizes with gparted |
| 15:18.45 | Detox | you may fing your answer |
| 15:18.49 | Detox | find |
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| 15:19.26 | Detox | what you have explained does not add up to what you think you have avail |
| 15:20.03 | Elive_user74 | how long time does it, when i delete a file |
| 15:20.19 | Detox | when you delete it gone |
| 15:20.30 | souleX | really |
| 15:21.41 | souleX | then up to upgrade |
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| 15:23.30 | Detox | souleX please verify your partition sizes,,, your math does not add up with the partition sizes you stated |
| 15:24.15 | Detox | brb |
| 15:24.15 | souleX | all ok |
| 15:24.27 | souleX | i was wrong |
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| 15:32.56 | souleX | i love dosbox |
| 15:36.17 | souleX | bye all |
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| 15:39.12 | Detox | howdy |
| 15:39.25 | Elive_user10 | hi |
| 15:39.44 | Detox | was worried everyone fell asleep |
| 15:40.31 | Elive_user10 | I'm wake |
| 15:41.05 | Elive_user10 | because live in japan,using Linux |
| 15:41.39 | Detox | wow Japan! |
| 15:41.48 | Detox | a pleasure to meet you |
| 15:42.15 | wizard123 | hi all! |
| 15:42.24 | Elive_user10 | thanks, |
| 15:42.30 | Detox | last time I was there was in 1973 in IwaKuni |
| 15:42.38 | Detox | spelling not correct |
| 15:43.28 | Elive_user10 | I'm japanese,so not well english |
| 15:44.07 | Elive_user10 | iwakuni, very beautiful landscape |
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| 15:44.48 | Elive_user10 | I hope too |
| 15:45.07 | Detox | yes very pretty, although I was not welcomed very well when I was there , too many US military doing bad things |
| 15:45.32 | Detox | so when I tried to meet people I was treated with suspisin |
| 15:45.37 | Detox | too bad |
| 15:45.43 | wizard123 | :| |
| 15:46.05 | wizard123 | i think i'll be allmost neutral in Japan |
| 15:46.11 | Detox | I would have enjoyed meeting people and learning more about the country |
| 15:50.32 | roxville | gotta go do some famliy stuff... seeya later |
| 15:50.41 | wizard123 | bye roxville |
| 15:50.45 | Elive_user10 | seeyou |
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| 16:06.26 | Detox | anyone home? |
| 16:06.34 | LinuxNIT | nope |
| 16:06.44 | Detox | reisntalled lastest ver |
| 16:06.51 | Detox | now get mknod error on boot |
| 16:06.59 | Detox | goes by to fast to read |
| 16:07.09 | LinuxNIT | new kernel yet? |
| 16:07.17 | Detox | where in the world is the log that shows t his? |
| 16:07.19 | Detox | yes |
| 16:07.26 | Detox | 2.6.17-2 |
| 16:07.28 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.34 | LinuxNIT | syslog i think |
| 16:08.14 | Detox | no 2.6.18 |
| 16:08.32 | Detox | looking |
| 16:08.32 | LinuxNIT | debian kernel or elive kernel? |
| 16:08.54 | Detox | is locked |
| 16:08.59 | Detox | elive |
| 16:09.16 | Detox | did install then apt-gt update then upgrade |
| 16:09.57 | LinuxNIT | anything under iwconfig? |
| 16:10.33 | Detox | reading syslog |
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| 16:11.42 | Detox | plug in wifi and pc locks |
| 16:12.17 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 16:12.24 | Detox | ya |
| 16:12.59 | Detox | on boot freezes at hostap_cs |
| 16:13.14 | Detox | unexpected irq trap at vector 50 |
| 16:13.56 | Detox | can loading be paused with pause key? |
| 16:14.01 | Detox | as in dos / win? |
| 16:14.29 | LinuxNIT | dunno |
| 16:15.20 | Detox | hmmm |
| 16:17.15 | Detox | I am ready to partake ina silent scream |
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| 16:17.53 | Detox | well ,,, going to have lunch ,, prepare for a lecture |
| 16:17.56 | Detox | back in a bit |
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| 16:34.56 | LinuxNIT | welcome Elive_user and Elive_user96 |
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| 16:41.39 | Elive_user96 | Hi all! I need help! When I do ping to 127.0.0.1 for example, i've received an following error message: sendmsg: operation not permitted |
| 16:41.50 | Elive_user96 | What is going on and how can i fix that? |
| 16:42.41 | Gwildor | why you pinging yourself? |
| 16:43.20 | Elive_user96 | It's an example..... I did others ping like: to my router, to other servers and I received the same error msg |
| 16:44.03 | Gwildor | <ping google.com> |
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| 16:44.16 | Elive_user96 | yeah .... the same problem |
| 16:44.48 | LinuxNIT | this is the computer your talking to us on? |
| 16:45.57 | Elive_user96 | yes |
| 16:46.28 | Elive_user96 | I've check the iptables rules and there isn any rule loaded |
| 16:46.35 | Elive_user96 | ops ... isn't |
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| 16:54.47 | Elive_user10 | zzz,,sleeping,bye |
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| 17:27.12 | bentejuy | hello all |
| 17:28.22 | bouba_ | hi bentejuy :) |
| 17:29.50 | bentejuy | hi bouba_ ;) |
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| 18:08.39 | Pacma | bye all |
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| 18:33.01 | mr_hubris | hi |
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| 18:37.21 | mr_hubris | no one here? |
| 18:39.55 | TuxMeister | yep |
| 18:40.06 | TuxMeister | this channel is a bit dead lately, though |
| 18:40.58 | dererk[w]_away | you don't need 100 lines/ second to be an active channel TuxMeister |
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| 18:41.42 | TuxMeister | nope... but compared to this we have nothing... at least at the time i log in... |
| 18:41.43 | mr_hubris | i've inserted the live cd |
| 18:41.53 | mr_hubris | and i'm trying to format my hdd |
| 18:41.59 | TuxMeister | i dunno by night, but at this time... not even thana is here |
| 18:42.13 | dererk[w]_away | TuxMeister, different Time zones, different amount of lines |
| 18:42.15 | mr_hubris | but it's in NTFS and it seems to be giving me a hardtime |
| 18:42.22 | dererk[w]_away | don't be so extreme to say it's dead |
| 18:42.32 | TuxMeister | dererk[w]_away, you're right... but still, a bit dead |
| 18:42.49 | TuxMeister | i mean, a month ago, this was WAY different |
| 18:43.00 | dererk[w]_away | thana is away for al the month |
| 18:43.12 | TuxMeister | wow, how's that? had to travel? |
| 18:43.39 | dererk[w]_away | mr_hubris, are you using the Partition assitante? (aka, gparted) |
| 18:43.48 | dererk[w]_away | TuxMeister, a work showed up for him |
| 18:44.02 | TuxMeister | oh, that's cool... |
| 18:44.07 | TuxMeister | he needed that |
| 18:44.31 | mr_hubris | yup i am |
| 18:45.25 | mr_hubris | i did something now tho and it's scanning devices for ages so it seems |
| 18:45.35 | dererk[w]_away | hehe |
| 18:46.42 | mr_hubris | eum |
| 18:46.44 | mr_hubris | it stopped |
| 18:47.01 | TuxMeister | mr_hubris, that's very usual when gparted finds an ntfs part... if you run it from a terminal, debugging messages tell you that it's checking for partition consistency and bad sectors... couse if it's not ok and you resize it or move it, data losses are garanteed |
| 18:47.09 | dererk[w]_away | see you tomorrow, I'm coming back home |
| 18:47.33 | mr_hubris | i don't care about the data loss atm |
| 18:47.46 | mr_hubris | my stuff is on a disk that's not even connected atm |
| 18:47.52 | mr_hubris | ok |
| 18:48.03 | mr_hubris | i've seemed to have unlocked/unmounted a partition |
| 18:48.13 | mr_hubris | now the other |
| 18:48.21 | mr_hubris | see if all hell comes crashing down |
| 18:48.49 | mr_hubris | is there something graphical where i can see what's in the repo's? |
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| 19:03.12 | mr_hubris | someone here that can help me? |
| 19:03.20 | mr_hubris | i've got 2 partitions |
| 19:03.25 | mr_hubris | 1 of 10G |
| 19:03.31 | mr_hubris | and the other 140G |
| 19:03.40 | mr_hubris | (the last one is in fat32) |
| 19:03.52 | mr_hubris | how do i install elive to the first one? |
| 19:04.43 | PrinceAMD | mr_hubris, hey |
| 19:05.01 | mr_hubris | hey |
| 19:05.12 | PrinceAMD | how much memory do u have in your system |
| 19:05.19 | mr_hubris | 1024 |
| 19:05.22 | PrinceAMD | ok |
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| 19:05.49 | PrinceAMD | remove the 10gb partition make it 9gb of riserfs and 1gb of swap |
| 19:06.10 | mr_hubris | then we'll have to wait |
| 19:06.19 | mr_hubris | the basterd is still scanning for devices |
| 19:06.24 | mr_hubris | takes ages for some reason |
| 19:06.25 | PrinceAMD | oh |
| 19:06.32 | PrinceAMD | xD |
| 19:06.37 | mr_hubris | an i'm using gparted |
| 19:06.43 | PrinceAMD | good |
| 19:06.50 | PrinceAMD | well this should be cake :) |
| 19:07.08 | mr_hubris | ok so we don't waste anytime |
| 19:07.16 | mr_hubris | after that is done i apply changes i suppose |
| 19:07.35 | mr_hubris | and then? |
| 19:07.40 | PrinceAMD | ok when done all the other steps are a walk through |
| 19:07.54 | PrinceAMD | once u have swap space elive install works great |
| 19:08.10 | PrinceAMD | dont forget use RiserFS as the 9GB partition ok |
| 19:08.44 | mr_hubris | i'm applying the changes |
| 19:09.04 | mr_hubris | and the lame fuck is scanning again |
| 19:09.31 | mr_hubris | :p |
| 19:09.36 | mr_hubris | sorry bout my language |
| 19:09.41 | PrinceAMD | nah is cool |
| 19:10.00 | mr_hubris | ok then :-) |
| 19:10.34 | PrinceAMD | mr_hubris, installin as yet? |
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| 19:10.57 | mr_hubris | gotta say tho |
| 19:11.06 | PrinceAMD | when the install ask u if u wanna make extra partition for /home etc. pess no :) |
| 19:11.10 | mr_hubris | i choose this distro cause it looks minimalistic |
| 19:11.18 | PrinceAMD | hehe |
| 19:11.24 | mr_hubris | but the user config thingy |
| 19:11.25 | dunkel_ | it does? :) |
| 19:11.29 | mr_hubris | blows :-) |
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| 19:11.46 | mr_hubris | anyways |
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| 19:12.01 | PrinceAMD | dunkel_, does it? |
| 19:12.06 | PrinceAMD | dunkel_, is it? |
| 19:12.07 | mr_hubris | the install happens with the icon most right in the "programbar" right? |
| 19:12.26 | PrinceAMD | i think so |
| 19:12.36 | dunkel_ | PrinceAMD: i guess it does if you want it to, mine doesn't/isn't/weren't :) |
| 19:12.47 | PrinceAMD | that icons likes to blick when cd is active |
| 19:12.57 | PrinceAMD | dunkel_, same |
| 19:13.06 | mr_hubris | it opens with the word welcome to the elive installer so i guess i'm correct :-) |
| 19:13.17 | PrinceAMD | hehe |
| 19:13.47 | PrinceAMD | dunkel_, e17 user? |
| 19:13.53 | dunkel_ | yep |
| 19:14.17 | PrinceAMD | dunkel_, CVS or elive e17? |
| 19:14.32 | dunkel_ | non-cvs |
| 19:14.40 | dunkel_ | i mean, as it was shipped :) |
| 19:14.45 | mr_hubris | eum |
| 19:14.47 | PrinceAMD | dunkel_, kool |
| 19:14.53 | mr_hubris | i choose the reiserfs partition |
| 19:14.55 | PrinceAMD | dunkel_, what theme do u like |
| 19:15.00 | mr_hubris | now it asks me to erase it?? |
| 19:15.00 | PrinceAMD | mr_hubris, good |
| 19:15.07 | PrinceAMD | mr_hubris,yes |
| 19:15.11 | mr_hubris | ah ok then |
| 19:15.38 | dunkel_ | PrinceAMD: i got the e17_clean, it's not fully functioning thou |
| 19:16.25 | PrinceAMD | dunkel_, ah ok... if you wanna go dark go www.princeamd.co.nr ....elive-e17 |
| 19:16.31 | mr_hubris | now something called elitaire opens and the install moves on |
| 19:16.55 | PrinceAMD | mr_hubris, yep it's a card game |
| 19:17.06 | mr_hubris | to entertain me? |
| 19:17.08 | PrinceAMD | mr_hubris, u can EXIT THAT :) if u wanna or play |
| 19:17.18 | mr_hubris | djees. windows needs that :-) |
| 19:17.38 | PrinceAMD | mr_hubris, yes yes yes |
| 19:17.56 | PrinceAMD | maybe quake 4 on vista installation :) |
| 19:18.28 | dunkel_ | PrinceAMD: i think i'll try that one out as soon as reboot back to elive, looks neat |
| 19:18.43 | PrinceAMD | dunkel_, cool :) |
| 19:18.44 | mr_hubris | so PrinceAMD if you know so much |
| 19:18.58 | mr_hubris | you think it's possible to get another config window? |
| 19:19.17 | PrinceAMD | mr_hubris, config window for what? |
| 19:19.22 | PrinceAMD | what do u wanna config? |
| 19:20.03 | mr_hubris | well |
| 19:20.09 | mr_hubris | actually the elive panel |
| 19:20.21 | mr_hubris | i wanna have it more minimalistic then the default |
| 19:21.40 | PrinceAMD | mr_hubris, i dont think so |
| 19:21.52 | PrinceAMD | that's the only theme there is |
| 19:21.59 | mr_hubris | too bad |
| 19:22.01 | PrinceAMD | and it's not decompile-able |
| 19:22.28 | PrinceAMD | or else i would have messed it up :) |
| 19:22.30 | mr_hubris | hehe |
| 19:24.35 | mr_hubris | you know the sad part about linux in general still is crappy game-ability |
| 19:24.43 | dunkel_ | i find elive panel a bit embarrassing on an otherwise pro system tbh... |
| 19:24.50 | mr_hubris | :-) |
| 19:24.55 | mr_hubris | same here dunkel_ |
| 19:25.33 | PrinceAMD | dunkel_, the panel is there to HELP beginners |
| 19:25.44 | mr_hubris | ok |
| 19:25.49 | mr_hubris | that would be for me then |
| 19:25.59 | PrinceAMD | it could be better but that's the develper's idea of how it should be |
| 19:26.21 | PrinceAMD | i'm sure sometime you find the elpanl abit HELPFUL :) |
| 19:26.27 | PrinceAMD | i do :) |
| 19:26.37 | mr_hubris | i do find it helpfull |
| 19:26.41 | mr_hubris | it's not that |
| 19:26.57 | mr_hubris | i just don't like the way it looks vs the rest of the place |
| 19:27.34 | mr_hubris | almost there with the install PrinceAMD |
| 19:27.45 | PrinceAMD | mr_hubris, COOL |
| 19:27.56 | PrinceAMD | make u'r root password elive ;) hehe |
| 19:28.10 | PrinceAMD | just kiddin ok |
| 19:28.57 | mr_hubris | to late anyways |
| 19:29.10 | mr_hubris | and where do i install GRUB? |
| 19:29.43 | mr_hubris | MBR / installation partition? |
| 19:30.06 | PrinceAMD | MBR!!! |
| 19:30.22 | PrinceAMD | mr_hubris, on the MBR i think it's the first option |
| 19:30.27 | mr_hubris | as stated before (or maybe i forgot to state that) |
| 19:30.29 | mr_hubris | i'm a noob |
| 19:30.37 | mr_hubris | yup |
| 19:30.40 | dunkel_ | PrinceAMD: yeah i can live with it but it made me blush once when some of my linux-literate friends were over :) |
| 19:30.59 | PrinceAMD | dunkel_, ha ha ha |
| 19:31.19 | mr_hubris | eum... |
| 19:31.24 | PrinceAMD | dunkel_, did they smile at u in a funny way? |
| 19:31.30 | PrinceAMD | mr_hubris, sup? |
| 19:31.40 | mr_hubris | do you want elive to automatically add your framebuffer for the boot system? |
| 19:31.48 | mr_hubris | never got that question asked to me before |
| 19:31.49 | PrinceAMD | YES :) |
| 19:32.00 | mr_hubris | fyi it's Cancel of OK ;-) |
| 19:32.05 | mr_hubris | or* |
| 19:32.07 | PrinceAMD | mr_hubris, ok |
| 19:32.10 | PrinceAMD | OK |
| 19:32.11 | mr_hubris | :-) |
| 19:32.39 | mr_hubris | gotta say that's actually cool to install elive while being in elive |
| 19:32.56 | dunkel_ | yep |
| 19:33.03 | PrinceAMD | mr_hubris, :) it is, and it takes no time at all maybe 10min or less |
| 19:33.15 | PrinceAMD | unlike windows 40min+ |
| 19:33.23 | PrinceAMD | for a shitty interface |
| 19:33.36 | PrinceAMD | mr_hubris, if u want to play games get Cedega |
| 19:33.48 | mr_hubris | got bad experience with that |
| 19:33.51 | mr_hubris | anyways |
| 19:33.53 | mr_hubris | gotta reboot |
| 19:33.56 | mr_hubris | and gotta go |
| 19:34.00 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 19:34.01 | PrinceAMD | later |
| 19:34.04 | mr_hubris | thx PrinceAMD and talk to you soon |
| 19:34.12 | PrinceAMD | mr_hubris, cool |
| 19:34.30 | mr_hubris | eum |
| 19:34.38 | mr_hubris | it asks me where i wanna install elive |
| 19:34.43 | mr_hubris | sda1 or sda2 |
| 19:34.50 | mr_hubris | i'm guessing 1 |
| 19:35.00 | PrinceAMD | hm... |
| 19:35.04 | PrinceAMD | didnt u just install it |
| 19:35.13 | mr_hubris | that was what i was thinking :d |
| 19:35.16 | PrinceAMD | i think u open 2 installer |
| 19:35.24 | PrinceAMD | close that one :) |
| 19:35.40 | mr_hubris | let's see |
| 19:35.42 | mr_hubris | time to reboot |
| 19:35.46 | PrinceAMD | good |
| 19:35.48 | mr_hubris | buhbye |
| 19:35.49 | PrinceAMD | go go go |
| 19:35.50 | mr_hubris | and thx |
| 19:35.55 | PrinceAMD | yep |
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| 20:15.03 | Conde_Duku | wenas a todos |
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| 20:19.15 | Elive_user9 | hello |
| 20:19.28 | Elive_user9 | any one |
| 20:19.49 | Elive_user9 | i need help installing e live |
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| 20:58.37 | Conde_Duku | hasta mañana |
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| 22:49.31 | Elive_user21 | hello all |
| 22:51.28 | wizard123 | hi all |
| 22:51.41 | Elive_user21 | hey wizard |
| 22:51.53 | wizard123 | hey Elive_user21 |
| 22:52.01 | Elive_user21 | LinuxNt, are u still here? |
| 22:52.54 | wizard123 | omg, i drunk ~0.5 liter of vodka |
| 22:53.18 | wizard123 | i'll beter go to sleep |
| 22:55.37 | Elive_user21 | I'm a newbie, and have a couple of questions?? any takers? |
| 22:56.34 | HaggisMcMutton | Google might know most of the answers, but go ahead |
| 22:57.29 | Ryuga | hi wizard |
| 22:58.38 | Elive_user21 | I tried but maybe not looking in the right spots, but anyway, I got elive installed with the help of LinuxNIT last night. Everything works great except that battery moniter dosen't register?? |
| 22:59.03 | Ryuga | have you downloaded acpid? |
| 22:59.17 | HaggisMcMutton | good answer |
| 22:59.34 | Elive_user21 | for some reason, couldn't connect to server |
| 22:59.45 | HaggisMcMutton | apt-get install acpid |
| 22:59.49 | Elive_user21 | tried,and tried |
| 22:59.50 | HaggisMcMutton | which server ? |
| 22:59.55 | Ryuga | beat me to it lol |
| 23:00.17 | HaggisMcMutton | Ryuga, O_o' don't be so rude |
| 23:00.39 | Ryuga | sorry, didn't mean to sound rude |
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| 23:01.06 | Elive_user21 | linuxNIT walked me through it with apt-get, and don't worry, I don't scare that easy |
| 23:01.28 | HaggisMcMutton | <HaggisMcMutton> which server ? |
| 23:01.43 | Elive_user21 | bare with me |
| 23:03.02 | Elive_user21 | I really don't know the server to be honest, I was given the commands, tried them, and no luck?? |
| 23:03.14 | Ryuga | hmm, have you tried using synaptic? |
| 23:04.12 | Elive_user21 | no Ryuga, 2nd day into this, so be gentel |
| 23:04.36 | Ryuga | ok, well try this, click on the elive panel icon |
| 23:05.18 | Ryuga | then go to admin and system configuration...it's the icon on the far right |
| 23:06.06 | Ryuga | from there click on packages manager...the icon is on the second row second icon from the right |
| 23:06.35 | Ryuga | let me know when synaptic is up |
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| 23:10.27 | Ryuga | are you still ther elive_user21? |
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| 23:32.17 | wizard123 | is anybody here ? |
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| 23:41.03 | Ryuga | i'm still here wizard |