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00:56.21the_poet677all kinda of alive in here tonight...
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03:40.34the_poet677Apt what do you know?
03:40.38aptwho?
03:40.48the_poet677apt whos on first?
03:42.04the_poet677apt canada
03:42.05apt[canada] the 52 state of America. only without all the cool shit like guns....
03:42.13the_poet677apt mexico
03:42.14aptextra, extra, read all about it, mexico is a dirty dirty place, or where the gnomes come from
03:42.22keyraapt: gnome ? on Elive ? you crazy ?
03:42.52the_poet677apt sing
03:42.54aptACTION sings loudly
03:44.11the_poet677apt
03:44.53the_poet677apt england
03:44.54aptsomebody said england was Harry-Potter-Land
03:45.03the_poet677apt germany
03:45.06aptfrom memory, germany is hosting the next World Cup, yes?
03:45.20the_poet677apt china
03:45.23apti guess china is a country, or what you eat from on holidays
03:45.30the_poet677nice
03:45.39the_poet677apt south africa
03:45.41apt[south africa] one of the best places in the world to live.  It is full of friendly people, spectacular scenery, beautiful weather, and lions.  Unfortunately it also has undervalued money, rather a lot of crime, and a huge shortage of bandwidth.
03:46.01the_poet677apt madagascar
03:46.51the_poet677apt square
03:47.01the_poet677apt 12x12
03:47.10the_poet677apt math
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04:09.40elmo40apt time
04:09.51apttime is, like, 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2006.11.27  4:09:51 GMT
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15:10.38roxvilleke|z, hi
15:10.46ke|zhi dude
15:11.12roxvillei'm not totally sure here... but i think it's been a while since i saw you last...right?
15:11.24roxvillewelcome back :)
15:11.26ke|zyes, right
15:11.29ke|zthanks =)
15:11.31keyraroxville: why anybody say 'welcome back keyra' ? :(
15:11.38roxvillehow are ya?
15:11.42ke|zbut you didn't move, geek
15:11.46roxvillewelcome back keyra :)
15:11.53keyraroxville: :D
15:12.00roxvillehehe, i have been on and off
15:12.08xlonyuhm...
15:12.10roxvillemore freak than geek, i think :)
15:12.13xlonyentropy doesn't run
15:12.46roxvilleit may not be installed...
15:12.54ke|zyes roxville, u're a guitar player, i remember now =)
15:13.53ke|zi need a professionnel for recovering data, are there some here?
15:15.58xlonyey roxville, any program to sharpen the guitar with microphone?
15:16.03roxvillehe's in the shower right now...
15:16.12roxvilleand then off to scool, i believe
15:16.15roxvilleit's LinuxNIT
15:16.52roxvillexlony, type "entropy" in a terminal... if it says "command not found", it's not installed
15:17.25xlonyno roxville
15:17.27xlonyevfs_fs problem
15:17.38xlonyi need a package...
15:17.42roxvilleke|z, our polish wizard123 may also be able to help you
15:18.02ke|zg端t g端t :D
15:18.11roxville:D
15:18.30xlonyi don't have "evfs_fs"
15:19.56roxvilleok, i'm gonna look...
15:20.33roxvilleroot@elive2[/home/chris]# apt-get install entropy
15:20.33roxvilleReading package lists... Done
15:20.33roxvilleBuilding dependency tree... Done
15:20.33roxvilleThe following extra packages will be installed:
15:20.33roxville<PROTECTED>
15:20.34roxvilleThe following NEW packages will be installed:
15:20.36roxville<PROTECTED>
15:20.39ke|zwhy people buy ethernet hdd? that's so bad
15:21.30roxvilleso the can share it on a home network
15:21.56LinuxNITwhat about me?
15:22.05xlonyroxville: dpkg -S /usr/bin/evfs_fs
15:22.31roxvillexlony, are you running elive?
15:22.38xlonyno,
15:22.47roxvilleoh...
15:22.49xlonythe packages are similar.
15:22.55roxvillewell then good luck :)
15:24.20roxvilleLinuxNIT,  ke|z needs help recovering data... if possible
15:24.39LinuxNITohh
15:24.49roxvillecoz i just installed and evfs came with it... and i'm running it now
15:24.57LinuxNITuh...
15:25.03LinuxNITke|z, what happened
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15:36.05Elive_user10Hi all
15:36.09Elive_user10can anyone help me here?
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15:37.26Elive_user10hello
15:37.36Elive_user10is there anyone here?
15:39.12LinuxNITpeople need to be more patient
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15:42.27roxvillelol, yep
15:42.43LinuxNIThe was here a total of what... 1 min?
15:44.34LinuxNITrhythmbox is pretty cool
15:46.29roxvilleyeah, i like it
15:46.48roxvilleand yes, he even priv'ed me in that time
15:46.51LinuxNITits amazing how similar to itunes it is
15:47.14roxvilleyes
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15:57.45ke|zhi LinuxNIT
15:57.50LinuxNIThey
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15:58.06LinuxNITso what happened to your drive?
15:58.18ke|zit's quite complicated i bet
15:58.46ke|zi resume: it's a drive used under windows, an ethernet iomega
15:59.14ke|zit contain 18G of data, but now we can see only 4/5 files
15:59.46ke|zbut in the properties of the hd (with zindoz) we can see that 18 Go are occuped
15:59.55LinuxNIToh my
16:00.07LinuxNITdoes it use proprietary software to comunicate with it?
16:00.35ke|zyes... only my father use it
16:00.56ke|zand i'm afraid to use the chkdsk of windows
16:01.23ke|zit's very important data... this sucks really
16:01.42LinuxNITdid the program not come with recovery tools?
16:01.59ke|zthere is nothing like this
16:02.36ke|zand all of the gnu recovering tool need to see the device... so i should need to get the disk out of the box... and loose the warranty
16:03.02LinuxNITwell if its anything like the one my dad has there is no partition table on the device
16:03.21LinuxNITso im afraid this is over my head
16:04.14ke|zso, nothing to loose to try chkdsk...
16:04.31LinuxNITi have no idea
16:04.50ke|z:D
16:04.57ke|znot so bad, thanks
16:05.10LinuxNITmight ask around in #windows ##linux or #hardware
16:05.24ke|zok good idea
16:05.58ke|zand after i'll learn to my father what security backup should mean
16:06.12roxvillehehe
16:06.18roxvillei need to learn that too
16:06.32LinuxNITwell backup should mean that he has an original copy
16:06.50ke|zyes but you know murphy's law?
16:06.54LinuxNITbut.... if hes just using it for storage.....
16:07.06ke|zit happen the day he send to repair his computer...
16:07.14LinuxNIT:o
16:07.34ke|zso no more data in the laptop
16:07.40ke|zthanks to murphy
16:07.52LinuxNITthe hd die?
16:08.31ke|zno but he delete the data... good idea, maybe it's easiest to recover that...
16:08.59LinuxNITcould be... the most i have done for data recovery is recovering deleted partitions
16:09.04|aSa|ke|z: If there are no physical errrors on your disk you can use dd to make a copy of the partition, or of the entire disk (if you have 15 GB for this). Then even if recovery software fails you can restore the disk to it's current condition.
16:09.08LinuxNITi havent done much with single files
16:09.24LinuxNITused testdisk for the partition stuff... nice little app
16:09.48ke|zasa, do dd work with samba fs?
16:10.14ke|zyes i know testdisk, and i'm proud that's a french who did it ;)
16:10.55|aSa|ke|z: no, only with block devices as i know
16:11.44ke|zyes, so i need to destroy the ethernet box... and i think it's not partitioned for it's 160Go space
16:11.59ke|zand i don't have other 160G hd
16:12.04|aSa|btw - testdisk works nice on dd images.
16:12.22LinuxNIT|aSa|, cool thats a good thing to know
16:12.22ke|zgood to know
16:12.31ke|z^^
16:13.24|aSa|LinuxNIT: It's what i try first when i neet to restore partition
16:13.59|aSa|LinuxNIT: But you need to losetup it first.
16:14.11LinuxNITlosetup?
16:14.39LinuxNIThmm ok ill look in to that
16:14.54|aSa|Like mount -o loop, but only creates the loop device without mounting.
16:15.12LinuxNITi see
16:15.13LinuxNITcool
16:15.17ke|zis it possible to copy with dd, but just the part containig data?
16:15.48LinuxNITlooks like |aSa| knows his shit ;)
16:16.35ke|zasa, master of crashing hard disk?
16:16.56LinuxNITlol
16:17.39LinuxNITexperiance is a good teacher :D
16:18.47|aSa|ke|z: No. You can do this tith partimage, but there are two disadvantages.
16:18.49|aSa|1. If the filesystem is broken you have just no way to know where is the part containig data.
16:19.16|aSa|2. Most recovery tools won't work on such image.
16:19.36ke|zargh
16:20.37LinuxNITso |aSa| what program do you reccomend for recovering files with?(just in general) or is that to broad of a question
16:23.18|aSa|What you can do with dd is 1:1 copy of the entire partition/disk. It can be used then with tools like testdisk, or you can use it to restore after unsuccessful attempts to recover the data on the physical disk.
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16:24.36Elive_user20bonsoir!
16:25.15Elive_user20j'ai une question technique!
16:25.49LinuxNIT?
16:26.49Elive_user20je voudrais savoir comment on fait les copier-coller sous elive 0.5.3 .
16:27.14|aSa|LinuxNIT: Mainly symantec disk editor under qemu with the imahe as -hda. It requires some experience, but is as powerfull as writing web pages with $EDITOR. Unfortionaly it's not something that can be easy explined in irc :(
16:28.41LinuxNITisnt symantec a windows app?
16:28.52roxvilleElive_user20, anglais, si'l vous plais?
16:29.16roxvilleje nez parlez francais :/
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16:29.32Elive_user20ok, scuses me!
16:29.39roxvilleno problem
16:29.56roxvillewe have french speakers here too... not just right, it seems :)
16:30.10roxvilleright now, i mean
16:30.55Elive_user20how can i do for to copy and paste with elive 0.5.3 ?
16:31.09LinuxNIThighlight the text then use middle click to paste
16:32.30Elive_user20but i don't have middle button!
16:32.56LinuxNITuse the left button and right button at the same time
16:33.02LinuxNITlinux will emulate the middle click
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16:34.13Elive_user20ok thank you very mach!
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16:34.24LinuxNITyoure welcome :)
16:34.32roxville:)
16:35.17roxvilleapt,  give LinuxNIT a cookie
16:35.20aptACTION gives LinuxNIT a home-baked lemon cookie to cheer him up.
16:35.27LinuxNITor if you have a touch pad.... a two-finger tap ;)
16:35.29roxvillemmmmmmmmm...............
16:35.43roxvilleyum!
16:35.56roxvilleapt,  give roxville a cookie
16:36.13aptACTION gives roxville a home-baked lemon cookie to cheer him up.
16:36.14LinuxNITroxville, he gave that to me not you
16:36.14roxvillei want one too
16:36.15LinuxNITtoo bad hes out
16:36.17Elive_user20it is possible to install and use beryl for to have a nice desktop effect ?
16:36.18LinuxNITapt, say im out of cookies
16:36.20aptim out of cookies
16:36.22roxvilleahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
16:36.26roxvillelol
16:36.45roxvilleElive_user20, beryl no, xgl no
16:36.47LinuxNITElive_user20, not using e16/e17
16:36.52ke]zand is this photo ok to make an e bg? -> http://www.locomosquito.freesurf.fr/bordel/gallerie/images/EPSN0100.JPG
16:37.21roxvilleke|z, of course!
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16:37.36LinuxNITke]z, no its too nice of a pic for a bg
16:37.41LinuxNIT;)
16:37.45roxvillelast time you were here, you were gonna take pics of a montain... but i never saw any...
16:37.53LinuxNITjust teasing ya
16:38.01ke]zcool, i'll work on it later =)
16:38.32ke]zyes roxville , but the problem is my camera
16:38.48ke]znot enough pixel to make good photos of mountains
16:39.16LinuxNITim using a pic my brother took for my bg...
16:39.18ke]zi try to make wath i can with the hill around my parents house :D
16:39.49LinuxNIThttp://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ssxj4.png
16:43.18ke]zto slow imageshack
16:43.28ke]zi can't see anything
16:43.47LinuxNIThmm works well for me
16:43.54LinuxNITmust be cause of location
16:44.42ke]zi think so
16:45.14LinuxNITor he has connection issues :)
16:45.42ke]zmaybe it don't likes frenchs
16:45.44ke]z^^
16:46.05LinuxNITlol
16:46.14ke]zi'll try some tools from runtime.org
16:46.21LinuxNITi was wondering how you timed out in 1 min
16:46.23LinuxNIT:D
16:46.32LinuxNITi didnt see the dif in | and ]
16:46.33LinuxNIT:D
16:46.50ke]z:D
16:47.17ke]zbe careful in your regexp if you don't see the diff
16:47.48LinuxNITthats whate error reports are for ;)
16:49.41LinuxNITok wtf did i do.... when i shade xchat then firefox shades
16:50.01LinuxNITunshde xchat firefox unshadeds.... but if i unshade firefox xchat does not unshade
16:50.50LinuxNITthis is kinda freaky
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17:15.51Elive_user10Hi all
17:16.22Elive_user10can anyone help me here ?
17:16.23LinuxNITwhats your question?
17:16.23bentejuyhi Elive_user10
17:16.37Elive_user10i installed the elive Revolution
17:16.42Elive_user10but when i want to make update
17:16.46Elive_user10i get this message
17:17.03Elive_user10W: There are no public key available for the following key IDs:
17:17.03Elive_user10A70DAF536070D3A1
17:17.03Elive_user10W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
17:17.14Elive_user10how can i fix this?
17:17.28Elive_user10hi bentejuy
17:17.53xlonyElive_user10: gpg --recv-key A70DAF536070D3A1
17:17.59xlonygpg --export A70DAF536070D3A1 | apt-key add -
17:18.25Elive_user10okay.. it works now
17:18.28Elive_user10thanks alot
17:18.36Elive_user10i have another Prpblem
17:18.49Elive_user10when i want to log out and log in again
17:18.59Elive_user10sometimes freezes my PC
17:19.09Elive_user10and the xserver does not started
17:19.35Elive_user10i have ATI Graphic card
17:19.37xlonyi don't know
17:19.38xlony:)
17:20.25LinuxNITdid you choose to use the radeon or fglrx driver?
17:20.44Elive_user10i had to choose fglrx
17:20.54LinuxNITradeon does not work/
17:20.55LinuxNIT?
17:21.01Elive_user10because the Radeon one did not work with mein
17:21.03Elive_user10mine
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17:23.25Elive_user10so any ideas?
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17:57.16LinuxNIToff to school... later folks
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18:11.37Elive_user80que tal linux
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18:48.43Elive_user24hi
18:49.14bentejuyhi Elive_user24
18:49.27Elive_user24I'm install the last release (0.5.3) and i can't install new themes. Can u help me?
18:50.06Elive_user24I've got installed*
18:50.24Elive_user24sorry for my english
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18:56.42bentejuyElive_user24, apt-cache search themes | grep enlightenment
18:57.58Elive_user24ok
18:58.04Elive_user24thanks bentejuy
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18:58.37mutacionrox are u there?
18:58.38mutacionrookmoot
18:58.40mutacionroxville
18:58.42bentejuyde nada Elive_user24 :)
18:58.53mutacionqiubole bentejuy
19:00.07bentejuyhey mutacion :)
19:00.42mutacionqe haciendo
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19:01.19mutacionese pinche quidam-
19:01.34quidam-mutacion, 　　　　　　　　　　　　
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19:01.38roxvilleese mutacion
19:01.41mutaciongaha zacate
19:01.44roxvilleet quidam-
19:01.50mutacionese rox!! i got a question for u :P
19:01.54quidam-ese roxville, como andas we? :P
19:02.24mutacioni have now enought money 1( to buy a macbook 120gig, 13 " 2) a vaio
19:02.38bentejuymutacion, i'm trying to be able to obtain the icons of the apps
19:03.03roxvillebien gracias, et tu?
19:03.09mutacionwhat u recomend me rox? a macbook or a vaio? using it for school things.. linux.. and stuff that we hace to do like unix-users
19:03.31mutacionbentejuy de donde eres?
19:03.47roxvillemutacion, yellow dog has a linux for...but that shouldn't matter too much, should it...?
19:04.06roxvilleanyway, they have one version with e17
19:04.27bentejuymutacion, de espa単a, y tu?
19:04.42mutacionthe macbook has intel chip.. so it will install linux as a native x86
19:05.49mutacionbentejuy, mx
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19:06.49mutacionso rox, what do u think? should i buy a macbook? :P
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19:12.57roxvillemutacion, i dunno man... the macbook is very nice... but so is the vaio...
19:13.01roxvilleok, the macbook
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19:16.23mutamaldito niq
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19:24.30LinuxNITlater guys
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19:36.03Heart_to shutdown i always have to "Exit enlightment" and then click the button at right bottom in the entrance screen?
19:36.17Heart_directly shutdown from inside e isn't possible?
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19:52.17Detox_awaygreetings ans salutations!
19:52.23Detox_awaygreetings and salutations!
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20:15.54Detox_awaygreetings and salutations!
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20:25.43wizard123arr
20:26.10wizard123diabetik: tell wizard test
20:26.10diabetikwizard123: Error: I haven't seen wizard, I'll let you do the telling.
20:26.16wizard123diabetik: tell wizard123 test
20:27.22wizard123tell PrinceAMD my lappy is broken, i won't be here for few days
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21:04.35LinuxNITapt make-eap
21:04.48aptfrom memory, make-eap is http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html
21:04.50LinuxNITfaster apt
21:04.53LinuxNITthanks apt
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