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| 02:15.09 | elmo40 | ok, weird question... how do i install a .deb withought using dpkg -i ? |
| 02:20.58 | PrinceAMD | elmo40, kpackage |
| 02:21.31 | LinuxNIT | gdebi |
| 02:26.49 | Detox_at_Home | hey i actually knew that! |
| 02:27.28 | elmo40 | still no 1440x900 option on the cd, eh? Oh well, after install, I can alter that |
| 02:27.53 | elmo40 | and no root access via liveCD ?? |
| 02:28.10 | elmo40 | nevermind :P |
| 02:30.42 | elmo40 | damn, exiting e16 crashed the liveCD |
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| 03:27.21 | Elive_user8 | I did an upgrade on my hdinstall and now I lost wireless and also my 3d accelration.. |
| 03:27.26 | Elive_user8 | apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 03:36.56 | Elive_user8 | gnigh |
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| 05:38.19 | elmo40 | install took some finagling. it would not work while in e17. but after reboot, i still get the same problem: when i try to exit enlightenment, it blacks out, then stays black. no loging screen. |
| 05:38.27 | keyra | elmo40: e17 is in development, remember it, use e16 if you want a complete, stable, and finished WM |
| 05:38.44 | elmo40 | ok, mrs. bot |
| 05:41.54 | elmo40 | but i have to say... other then the uber bloated FC6, this is the only distro that has working drivers for ipw2200 |
| 05:42.08 | elmo40 | well, i (think) MEPIS 3.4 did too, but cant remember. |
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| 06:16.54 | GPLGeek | elmo40, hey |
| 06:16.57 | GPLGeek | about those working drivers |
| 06:17.04 | GPLGeek | there are 2 parts to it |
| 06:17.07 | GPLGeek | 1) the kernel |
| 06:17.09 | GPLGeek | 2) the driver |
| 06:17.27 | GPLGeek | basicly if you know what kernel you like you can configure and compile it yourself and then compile the driver |
| 06:17.37 | GPLGeek | also debian works with ipw2200 |
| 06:17.39 | GPLGeek | etch |
| 06:17.41 | GPLGeek | not sarge |
| 06:18.19 | GPLGeek | and elivecd is etch based. (etch is almost production quality though, so everything is a lot easier now than it was 2 years ago) |
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| 06:32.56 | Elive_user32 | hello all |
| 06:33.00 | Elive_user32 | whussup |
| 06:33.04 | keyra | Elive_user32: hi |
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| 09:32.25 | broadcast | buenos dias |
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| 10:16.51 | Pacma | buenos dias |
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| 10:33.33 | oldab | hi! how can i resize modules on the shelf? when i select the resize and move option from the menu, i can only move them, but not resize |
| 10:34.46 | SuperpeZ | hi oldab |
| 10:34.53 | SuperpeZ | what type of modules? |
| 10:35.25 | oldab | sorry, i just found the solution. i didn't notice the tickboxes that enable resizing |
| 10:35.36 | oldab | it was the time and the weather module |
| 10:35.47 | oldab | thank you though |
| 10:35.50 | SuperpeZ | :) |
| 10:35.55 | SuperpeZ | wellcome oldab |
| 10:36.00 | oldab | thank you |
| 10:36.06 | oldab | but one more question. |
| 10:36.31 | SuperpeZ | tell it |
| 10:36.52 | oldab | is it possible to have a fully animated background - not just the rain or snow module, but trees moving in the wind in photo quality |
| 10:36.53 | oldab | ? |
| 10:37.17 | oldab | maybe as a flash animation? |
| 10:37.47 | oldab | when i was looking for it, i only found windows exes |
| 10:37.56 | oldab | but nothing for linux |
| 10:38.11 | SuperpeZ | then you not found it |
| 10:38.16 | oldab | oh |
| 10:38.25 | SuperpeZ | elive not run with exes |
| 10:38.32 | oldab | of course not |
| 10:38.33 | Pacma | hi Sup3rkiddo |
| 10:38.33 | SuperpeZ | only windows |
| 10:38.38 | Pacma | hi SuperpeZ |
| 10:38.42 | SuperpeZ | hi Pacma |
| 10:38.48 | Sup3rkiddo | Pacma: howdy |
| 10:38.54 | Pacma | hi all |
| 10:38.54 | oldab | but anything like that for linux? |
| 10:39.00 | SuperpeZ | you can try some themes more, |
| 10:39.00 | oldab | hi pacma |
| 10:39.23 | oldab | i tried the few themes available for e17 |
| 10:39.37 | SuperpeZ | there is more possibilities, I think that you can change what you want, but flash is for web pages |
| 10:40.11 | oldab | flash was just an idea how it could probably be done |
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| 10:40.47 | oldab | are animated backgrounds available for e16? |
| 10:43.00 | SuperpeZ | oldab, you have some animated bakgrounds here: |
| 10:43.02 | SuperpeZ | http://www1.get-e.org/Backgrounds/Animated/ |
| 10:43.25 | SuperpeZ | I think that Layered sky is like you says |
| 10:43.52 | oldab | i will have a look |
| 10:43.59 | SuperpeZ | maybe that you can use it, or modify like do you like |
| 10:44.18 | SuperpeZ | good look |
| 10:44.31 | SuperpeZ | time for breakfast |
| 10:44.32 | SuperpeZ | :) |
| 10:44.36 | SuperpeZ | see you later |
| 10:45.23 | oldab | see you |
| 10:45.27 | oldab | and thanks |
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| 12:28.34 | dererk[work] | Buenas |
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| 12:37.12 | wizard123 | hi |
| 12:37.43 | Nei | since I put on the latest update, when I use entrance, a few tiny seconds after e has started, it quits |
| 12:37.53 | Nei | anyone experienced that? |
| 12:39.10 | wizard123 | enlightenment crashes? |
| 12:39.17 | wizard123 | or entrance? |
| 12:39.48 | Nei | enlightenment goes away |
| 12:40.00 | Nei | but if I start enlightenment from command line, it stays |
| 12:40.28 | Nei | so I think entrance must be sending some kind of take down signal or something |
| 12:41.50 | wizard123 | hmm |
| 12:42.31 | wizard123 | hard to say.. i would need to see that behaviur to fix it |
| 12:43.08 | Nei | :/ |
| 12:43.32 | wizard123 | have you tried to start other wms? |
| 12:43.48 | Nei | no. I guess I could try that |
| 12:44.10 | wizard123 | so, try e16, or fluxbox.. |
| 12:44.40 | Nei | just to be exact, the version is cvs20061227 |
| 12:45.05 | wizard123 | i don't use e17 :] |
| 12:45.16 | wizard123 | (currently) |
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| 12:48.49 | Nei | it even happens with failsafe! |
| 12:49.53 | wizard123 | :| |
| 12:50.06 | wizard123 | not good, something is wrong with entrance |
| 12:50.10 | wizard123 | and i can't help you |
| 12:50.12 | Nei | :( |
| 12:50.28 | Nei | thanks for trying :) |
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| 12:50.39 | wizard123 | you may try to back to your old entrance or try different login manager |
| 12:51.12 | Nei | I tried, but then it has dependency problems and basically Id need to go back everywhere |
| 12:51.23 | Nei | guess I'll have to do without entrance |
| 12:52.28 | wizard123 | hm... check elive forum, maybe somebody had simmilar problems |
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| 13:09.23 | wizard123 | Jan 3 11:45:06 bramanieba kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 64 to |
| 13:09.23 | wizard123 | 10 packets/sec |
| 13:09.23 | wizard123 | Jan 3 13:15:20 bramanieba syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel |
| 13:09.32 | wizard123 | whoops, wrong window :( |
| 13:16.37 | dererk[work] | hi wizard123 |
| 13:16.41 | dererk[work] | welcome back |
| 13:16.42 | wizard123 | hi dererk[work] |
| 13:16.56 | wizard123 | hmm.. that's all i've found in logs.. |
| 13:17.18 | wizard123 | and some strange logs from ftp_proxy, just before that :| |
| 13:17.22 | wizard123 | strange |
| 13:17.45 | dererk[work] | that's why I don't use bsd :) |
| 13:17.56 | dererk[work] | besides that I don't want to :P |
| 13:18.47 | wizard123 | hehe |
| 13:19.28 | wizard123 | that router has worked for 2 months without any brake.. |
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| 13:26.25 | Detox_at_Work | morning all |
| 13:26.51 | Detox_at_Work | wizard, are you awake? |
| 13:26.58 | wizard123 | yeah :D |
| 13:27.19 | Detox_at_Work | yahooo |
| 13:27.32 | Detox_at_Work | did you see the post I gave ya? |
| 13:27.35 | wizard123 | Detox_at_Work: i was drinking somewhere in dorm when you messaged me :D |
| 13:27.41 | wizard123 | yes, i read them |
| 13:27.48 | Detox_at_Work | any ideas? |
| 13:28.29 | Detox_at_Work | interesting thing happened with gdm |
| 13:28.49 | Detox_at_Work | lost elive,,, basic enlightenment replaced it |
| 13:29.05 | wizard123 | ah :) |
| 13:29.20 | Detox_at_Work | but then I could not boot unless I tied the login to an ip address |
| 13:29.21 | wizard123 | so it was problem with gdm configuration |
| 13:29.27 | Detox_at_Work | yes i guess |
| 13:29.41 | Detox_at_Work | couldnt see were to fix it tho |
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| 13:30.03 | wizard123 | wait a second, i'll start gdm |
| 13:30.11 | Detox_at_Work | however,,, I could remote access the pc flawlessly |
| 13:31.16 | Detox_at_Work | can I install gdm and NOT have it as primary? |
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| 13:32.50 | wizard123 | :D |
| 13:33.00 | wizard123 | so it was only a problem with starting e17 ? |
| 13:33.08 | keyra | wizard123: e17 is in development, remember it, use e16 if you want a complete, stable, and finished WM |
| 13:33.24 | wizard123 | keyra: i use gnome :D |
| 13:33.35 | Detox_at_Work | no ,, could not get e16 to start |
| 13:33.40 | Detox_at_Work | not e17 |
| 13:33.54 | wizard123 | Detox_at_Work: what was the problem *exactly* ? |
| 13:34.01 | Detox_at_Work | enlightenment would start, but looked like my old libranet pc |
| 13:34.13 | Detox_at_Work | ok,,,,,,, |
| 13:34.24 | Detox_at_Work | need to access my elive pc remotely |
| 13:34.51 | Detox_at_Work | am told I need to use NX Client, but entrance is not supported |
| 13:34.57 | Detox_at_Work | kde and gnome are |
| 13:35.06 | Detox_at_Work | you mentioned to install gdm |
| 13:35.09 | Detox_at_Work | i did |
| 13:35.17 | Detox_at_Work | nx clietn works great |
| 13:35.23 | wizard123 | :D |
| 13:35.23 | Detox_at_Work | but now i have no desktop |
| 13:35.40 | wizard123 | you wan to use e16 or e17 ? |
| 13:36.22 | Detox_at_Work | did something,, do not know what,,, my desktop came back,,,, but then could not start pc past gdm UNLESS I configured XDM... each time |
| 13:36.42 | Detox_at_Work | e16 17 dont care,, e17 is nicer tho |
| 13:36.47 | Detox_at_Work | this is for a server |
| 13:36.50 | wizard123 | o_O |
| 13:37.14 | Detox_at_Work | used elive due to the kernel allowing duel cpu's and raid controller |
| 13:37.32 | Detox_at_Work | debian etch and sarge will not work on it |
| 13:37.39 | Detox_at_Work | is dell poweredge 1950 |
| 13:37.48 | Detox_at_Work | has Perc raid controller |
| 13:38.10 | Detox_at_Work | and the debian kernel with plain debian will not play with the raid controller |
| 13:38.25 | Detox_at_Work | so I put elive on ,kernel 2.6.15 |
| 13:38.27 | wizard123 | ah, i remember |
| 13:38.28 | Detox_at_Work | runs great |
| 13:38.33 | Detox_at_Work | ok |
| 13:38.44 | wizard123 | but it would be better to login using ssh :) |
| 13:38.52 | Detox_at_Work | yes agree |
| 13:39.12 | Detox_at_Work | but the developer of the software we aer using insistets on using a gui remote |
| 13:39.19 | Detox_at_Work | like nx client |
| 13:39.23 | wizard123 | i'm nto sure wtf is nx client |
| 13:40.03 | Detox_at_Work | look at www.nomachine.com |
| 13:40.14 | Detox_at_Work | is actually very nice |
| 13:40.19 | Detox_at_Work | works grat |
| 13:40.21 | Detox_at_Work | great |
| 13:40.29 | Detox_at_Work | but does not like entrance |
| 13:40.34 | wizard123 | so if it works.. what's the problem ? |
| 13:40.52 | wizard123 | i'm not sure if i understand you :D |
| 13:41.03 | Detox_at_Work | have problems logging on to the pc at boot |
| 13:41.16 | wizard123 | ah, gdm does not start? |
| 13:41.24 | Detox_at_Work | keeps demanding I reconfig the ................... |
| 13:41.34 | Detox_at_Work | hold on will get the exact wording |
| 13:42.24 | Detox_at_Work | ok,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, |
| 13:42.39 | Detox_at_Work | when pc boots and gdm begins,,, ya get the login screen right? |
| 13:43.23 | Detox_at_Work | I cannot type in any name until I click on "Actions" and select "Run XDMCP chooser" |
| 13:43.31 | Detox_at_Work | I haev to do this each time I boot |
| 13:43.38 | wizard123 | hmm |
| 13:43.43 | wizard123 | let me check it |
| 13:43.47 | Detox_at_Work | soemtimes it wroks sometimes it just hangs |
| 13:43.50 | Detox_at_Work | k |
| 13:44.12 | wizard123 | sudo gdmsetup |
| 13:44.16 | Detox_at_Work | and then if it does wrok, by selecting the ip of the machine,,,, I lose my desktop |
| 13:44.27 | wizard123 | whoops, wrong window again |
| 13:44.53 | Detox_at_Work | when I do gdmsetup,,, I get a GTK error |
| 13:45.01 | wizard123 | i don't have any other unix machine with X.. |
| 13:45.41 | Detox_at_Work | I can access it wtih my debian pc |
| 13:45.47 | Detox_at_Work | what do you want me to look at? |
| 13:46.22 | wizard123 | wait a second :) |
| 13:46.29 | Detox_at_Work | k |
| 13:46.29 | wizard123 | i'll test that on my elive |
| 13:46.36 | Detox_at_Work | oops,,, second is up |
| 13:46.43 | Detox_at_Work | haha |
| 13:47.42 | wizard123 | hmm |
| 13:48.02 | Detox_at_Work | ok has 5 tabs |
| 13:48.02 | wizard123 | i it does not work by using loopback :D |
| 13:48.28 | Detox_at_Work | second tab deals with remote login |
| 13:49.02 | Detox_at_Work | do I select disabled ,,, same as local,, plain,, or plain with face browser? |
| 13:49.17 | wizard123 | not disabled |
| 13:49.29 | Detox_at_Work | ok then same as local? |
| 13:49.30 | wizard123 | rest depends on your tastes |
| 13:49.48 | Detox_at_Work | ok next tab is accessibility |
| 13:50.29 | wizard123 | are you blind or something? |
| 13:50.29 | wizard123 | i guess no |
| 13:50.29 | Detox_at_Work | no |
| 13:50.29 | wizard123 | so we can disable it |
| 13:50.30 | Detox_at_Work | just verifying settings |
| 13:50.31 | wizard123 | i don't know what's wrong.. |
| 13:50.35 | wizard123 | it *should* work |
| 13:51.35 | Detox_at_Work | yup |
| 13:51.37 | Detox_at_Work | should |
| 13:52.14 | wizard123 | than why it does not? |
| 13:52.49 | Detox_at_Work | I messed up my pc so bad by install / uninstalling gdm / entrance I had to reinstall elive frm scratch |
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| 13:52.58 | wizard123 | :| |
| 13:53.03 | wizard123 | i don't think so |
| 13:53.12 | Detox_at_Work | if I knew why I could help you with it and not the reverse |
| 13:53.49 | wizard123 | damn.. Detox_at_Work i'm sorry, but i'm out of ideas.. |
| 13:53.50 | Detox_at_Work | well ,,, jsut did the setup fof gdm on my debian pc |
| 13:53.57 | Detox_at_Work | worked grea |
| 13:53.59 | Detox_at_Work | t |
| 13:54.11 | Detox_at_Work | am finished re-installing elive |
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| 13:54.41 | wizard123 | :( |
| 13:54.41 | Detox_at_Work | if you have a few more minutes,,, I'll apt-get gdm onto my elive pc |
| 13:54.42 | quidam- | apt, vobcopy |
| 13:54.49 | apt | it has been said that vobcopy is the repository of elive: deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive |
| 13:54.50 | Detox_at_Work | ok? |
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| 13:54.59 | wizard123 | Detox_at_Work: i don't have much time |
| 13:55.01 | quidam- | hey wizard123 ;) |
| 13:55.04 | wizard123 | hi quidam- |
| 13:55.08 | Vaughn | buenas |
| 13:55.17 | keyra | Vaughn: nas nas |
| 13:55.25 | Detox_at_Work | no probs |
| 13:55.27 | wizard123 | i'm going to eat lunch |
| 13:55.29 | Detox_at_Work | am rebooting now |
| 13:55.31 | wizard123 | Vaughn: hi |
| 13:56.16 | Detox_at_Work | and,,, I really appreciate the time you are spending wtih me on this |
| 13:56.33 | wizard123 | :) |
| 13:56.51 | Detox_at_Work | is 0900 here |
| 13:56.59 | Detox_at_Work | what time is there where u are? |
| 13:57.06 | wizard123 | 15:00 |
| 13:57.15 | Detox_at_Work | wow date? |
| 13:57.22 | Detox_at_Work | 3 jan? |
| 13:58.14 | wizard123 | yes |
| 13:58.25 | Detox_at_Work | late lunch |
| 13:58.47 | wizard123 | i woke up after noon |
| 13:59.12 | Detox_at_Work | did you see the command in the paste yesterday regarding gnome? |
| 13:59.30 | wizard123 | no |
| 13:59.38 | Detox_at_Work | will try to find |
| 13:59.42 | Detox_at_Work | am on my win pc |
| 13:59.47 | wizard123 | ok |
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| 14:01.42 | Detox_at_Work | meet me in elive-flood ok? |
| 14:02.17 | wizard123 | ok |
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| 14:04.59 | wizard123 | Detox_at_Work: i'll check that when i'll return, ok? |
| 14:05.02 | wizard123 | now i have to go |
| 14:05.05 | wizard123 | bye o/ |
| 14:06.04 | detox_server | wizard ,,, ok |
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| 15:48.00 | egrub | apt x en es like |
| 15:48.30 | elmo40 | como estas? |
| 15:48.42 | elmo40 | buenos dias apt |
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| 16:00.50 | Elive_user | I did an apt-get dist-upgrade and lost my wireless and my 3d |
| 16:00.54 | mz_work | trying to get engage looking good on a debian sid install - how is it done in elive? |
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| 16:03.36 | elmo40 | Elive_user what vid card? |
| 16:03.48 | Detox | hello alllllll |
| 16:03.56 | keyra | Detox: hi |
| 16:05.42 | mz_work | can someone running elive please show me this? ps aux|grep engage |
| 16:05.57 | mz_work | can't boot elive just now here at work |
| 16:12.02 | Gl0ubI | Hello All |
| 16:12.14 | wizard123 | hi Gl0ubI |
| 16:12.20 | Gl0ubI | and Happy new year Elive ! |
| 16:12.39 | Gl0ubI | hi wizard123 |
| 16:12.46 | wizard123 | ;] |
| 16:12.58 | Gl0ubI | i found a new elive version ^^ |
| 16:13.09 | Gl0ubI | http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=03931#0 |
| 16:13.16 | Gl0ubI | .6 |
| 16:13.25 | Gl0ubI | incredible ! |
| 16:15.28 | wizard123 | :) |
| 16:16.02 | Gl0ubI | hum i'am thinking it's a joke |
| 16:16.17 | Gl0ubI | but not really ? |
| 16:16.24 | Gl0ubI | i'm going crazy |
| 16:16.37 | Gl0ubI | :) |
| 16:19.52 | PrinceAMD | wizard123, howdy? |
| 16:20.02 | PrinceAMD | Gl0ubI, sup? |
| 16:20.11 | chubaca | I think it's an error. |
| 16:20.23 | PrinceAMD | what's an error? |
| 16:20.24 | Gl0ubI | PrinceAMD: ? |
| 16:20.39 | chubaca | The version. |
| 16:20.44 | PrinceAMD | it's true |
| 16:20.54 | PrinceAMD | elive revolution release 2 = 0.6 |
| 16:21.00 | Gl0ubI | okay |
| 16:21.05 | chubaca | Ook. |
| 16:21.09 | Gl0ubI | big pdate so |
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| 16:21.15 | PrinceAMD | also known as 0.5.5, with few changes :) |
| 16:21.16 | Gl0ubI | update so |
| 16:21.22 | chubaca | I didn't think that rl2 was 0.6. |
| 16:21.53 | PrinceAMD | well know you know :) |
| 16:22.05 | PrinceAMD | you guys use e17? |
| 16:22.58 | PrinceAMD | http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/files/e17-transparency0.4.4.deb test this for me eh |
| 16:23.02 | Gl0ubI | thanks PrinceAMD, you save my mind :) |
| 16:23.47 | Gl0ubI | not at work :( |
| 16:24.12 | elmo40 | and 0.6 works well!! |
| 16:24.33 | elmo40 | 0.5 wouldnt even boot to my laptop, but 0.6 did. |
| 16:24.42 | Gl0ubI | a dell laptop :) |
| 16:24.44 | Gl0ubI | ? |
| 16:25.51 | chubaca | I have a friend which has the same problem with an Acer laptop. |
| 16:25.59 | keyra | chubaca: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 16:26.16 | wizard123 | keyra: shut up! |
| 16:26.25 | keyra | wizard123: :-# |
| 16:26.30 | PrinceAMD | Gl0ubI, you r welcome |
| 16:26.50 | PrinceAMD | wizard123, sup |
| 16:27.02 | wizard123 | hi PrinceAMD |
| 16:27.08 | PrinceAMD | how is everything |
| 16:27.26 | PrinceAMD | still on live? |
| 16:27.31 | wizard123 | yeah |
| 16:27.35 | wizard123 | everything sux |
| 16:27.44 | PrinceAMD | sorry to hear |
| 16:27.50 | wizard123 | i have a test tommorow |
| 16:27.54 | wizard123 | i hate that :D |
| 16:28.18 | PrinceAMD | i have some @%$^ed exams in the next 5mth |
| 16:28.37 | PrinceAMD | so i have to do alot of study, i'll be missing from here for a while |
| 16:28.51 | wizard123 | hmm |
| 16:28.55 | PrinceAMD | at least i made a little app, :D |
| 16:29.33 | PrinceAMD | see yah |
| 16:29.50 | chubaca | Bye. |
| 16:30.13 | wizard123 | :) |
| 16:31.12 | elmo40 | Gl0ubI: i dont buy dell... |
| 16:31.20 | elmo40 | it is an IBM R52 laptop |
| 16:31.50 | Detox | hello wizard |
| 16:31.59 | keyra | Detox: hi |
| 16:32.15 | Detox | did you see my paste? |
| 16:32.30 | Detox | or,, actually ,, did you have time to read it? |
| 16:32.30 | Gl0ubI | elmo40: ok, i've just same but with a recent dell laptop |
| 16:33.12 | elmo40 | same issues? 0.5 would not boot but 0.6 does? |
| 16:33.40 | Gl0ubI | i don't try 0.6, but 0.5.5 |
| 16:33.44 | Gl0ubI | yes |
| 16:34.04 | Gl0ubI | latest dev version |
| 16:35.14 | chubaca | I'm on 0.5.4. |
| 16:35.15 | chubaca | I must upgrade. |
| 16:35.16 | elmo40 | the issue i have now, is when i want to shutdown, is doesnt. |
| 16:35.30 | elmo40 | it hangs with a black screen after e16 or e17 TRIES to close. |
| 16:35.48 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: you listening? ;) |
| 16:36.43 | chubaca | Use the command `halt` :p |
| 16:37.53 | wizard123 | Detox: did you solve it? |
| 16:38.13 | Detox | no ,,, was waiting for you to review the paste |
| 16:38.21 | Detox | before I changed anything |
| 16:38.37 | Detox | have elive back up and running again |
| 16:38.47 | Detox | and did not want to install gdm unless I h ad to |
| 16:39.27 | Detox | thhere were two commands I pasted ,,, and could they be modified for elive? |
| 16:39.28 | wizard123 | eh.. you can use vnc if you don't want xdmcp |
| 16:40.08 | Detox | I tried taht at home , and it still required a comamnd line for conncetion |
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| 16:40.17 | Detox | i just dont get it |
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| 16:40.46 | Detox | the rub with gdm is i cannot log onto my pc from in front of it |
| 16:41.03 | Gwildor | woa weird |
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| 16:41.17 | Detox | it has to do with the remote login settings i t hink |
| 16:41.21 | Detox | think |
| 16:41.41 | wizard123 | hmm.. i enabled remote login settings and everything works |
| 16:41.56 | Detox | once I click on remote logins,, I cannot start here |
| 16:42.12 | Detox | I'm missing something simple |
| 16:42.27 | wizard123 | and how about connection from this machine to the other one? |
| 16:42.30 | Detox | now my plain debian pc will not allow login |
| 16:42.54 | Detox | server is set up on elive pc |
| 16:43.06 | Detox | sorry for being such a dunderhead |
| 16:43.25 | wizard123 | :P |
| 16:43.25 | Detox | I am clicking on the correct switches,, and it is not working for some reason |
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| 16:45.18 | Elive_user | When I type fgl_glxgears I get this error: |
| 16:45.18 | Elive_user | X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) |
| 16:45.32 | Detox | wizard can you meet me in elive-flood? |
| 16:45.45 | Elive_user | Any ideas how to get 3d on my radeon again since I did the apt-get dist-upgrade? |
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| 16:48.44 | squall38 | howdy everyone |
| 16:49.00 | squall38 | coul somebody tell the the name of the default xmms skin in elive? |
| 16:49.33 | Elive_user | Almond Alu_rounded |
| 16:49.37 | wizard123 | check it (alt+s) iirc |
| 16:50.47 | squall38 | Elive_user: thank you very much :-D |
| 16:57.46 | Gl0ubI | how ! somebody know that ?? : http://www.ebuntu.org/ |
| 16:59.31 | chubaca | Ow, a french site :) |
| 17:00.04 | wizard123 | Gl0ubI: *buntu = crap which does not work |
| 17:00.07 | wizard123 | (imo) |
| 17:00.30 | chubaca | I prefer linux :p |
| 17:01.17 | wizard123 | "linux is a crap, imo"(R) |
| 17:01.45 | Gl0ubI | imo ? |
| 17:02.14 | wizard123 | in my opinion |
| 17:02.21 | Gl0ubI | ok :) |
| 17:02.40 | Gl0ubI | maybe, but it can grow up more faster e17 ? |
| 17:03.31 | chubaca | Ebuntu ? |
| 17:03.49 | wizard123 | yuck |
| 17:03.55 | Gl0ubI | yes ? |
| 17:04.33 | Gl0ubI | maybe not grow up but focus on ? |
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| 17:07.20 | Gl0ubI | really not a good things ? |
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| 17:08.06 | wizard123 | :D |
| 17:08.37 | wizard123 | Gl0ubI: imo, only improving e17 can make it more popular |
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| 17:09.07 | Gl0ubI | ouep |
| 17:09.43 | Gl0ubI | i'v love to help elive to grow up too ... |
| 17:20.57 | wizard123 | :D |
| 17:21.06 | fo_o | hello |
| 17:21.14 | keyra | fo_o: hi |
| 17:21.16 | wizard123 | hi fo_o |
| 17:21.27 | fo_o | how are you ? |
| 17:21.38 | wizard123 | hehe, everything sux |
| 17:21.43 | wizard123 | Detox: ping |
| 17:21.55 | Detox | pong |
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| 17:22.09 | wizard123 | Detox: and? |
| 17:22.19 | Detox | looking |
| 17:22.31 | Detox | will take a bit to figure out keyboard issue |
| 17:23.01 | Detox | I can open programs ,, move stuff around ... but when I goto terminal remotely nuttn happens |
| 17:23.11 | Detox | so I am looking now in cfg files |
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| 17:45.56 | elmo40 | LinuxNIT-II: you here? |
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| 17:47.20 | LinuxNIT-II | yes im here |
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| 17:48.05 | LinuxNIT-II | elmo40: ? |
| 17:49.11 | wizard123 | Detox: xdmcp just works |
| 17:49.57 | Detox | looking for keymap file now |
| 17:50.14 | Detox | how did ya do it? |
| 17:50.51 | wizard123 | me? |
| 17:51.09 | wizard123 | now it does not ;) |
| 17:51.17 | wizard123 | i have only one X workstation |
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| 17:53.00 | brucomela | hi wizard123! i'm bouba :). do you remember me? eheheh |
| 17:53.08 | wizard123 | hi, of course |
| 17:53.21 | brucomela | how are you?;) |
| 18:01.19 | toothpick | even the torrent is a slow download |
| 18:02.28 | toothpick | Does the testing version use unstable sources? |
| 18:02.56 | brucomela | no |
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| 18:08.38 | wizard123 | brucomela: everything sux |
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| 18:08.51 | wizard123 | and i can't install looking glass |
| 18:08.54 | brucomela | :( why? |
| 18:09.06 | wizard123 | ah.. exams and so.. |
| 18:11.42 | toothpick | I was pleased with the elive I had instaleld, then I went and did a dist-upgrade and lost my wireless and 3d |
| 18:12.26 | elmo40 | LinuxNIT: oh, sorry ;) |
| 18:12.35 | elmo40 | did you see my msgs last night? |
| 18:12.49 | LinuxNIT | no i dont think so |
| 18:12.50 | brucomela | acpi? |
| 18:12.51 | brucomela | :D |
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| 18:16.34 | elmo40 | just saying how you need to create a 'show the user what is happening' item... something like a progress bar, or a rotating hour-glass... something to tell the user that when you press Scan, something is actually happening, AND, when that something stoped looking. |
| 18:17.13 | LinuxNIT | thanks and yeah i was working on that... slow going sometimes |
| 18:17.15 | elmo40 | when there are no other comps on your network, it displays blank, which looks similar to the search. so, maybe saying NOTHING WAS FOUND would a good thing |
| 18:17.31 | LinuxNIT | good idea |
| 18:18.43 | elmo40 | just cause no one can tell when the search is over ;) |
| 18:18.44 | LinuxNIT | i added that for shares the other day... ill add that for workgroups and computers as well. |
| 18:18.51 | LinuxNIT | yeah thats true |
| 18:18.52 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 18:18.52 | elmo40 | ok |
| 18:19.39 | Detox | wizard ... what did you do to get it to work? |
| 18:22.55 | wizard123 | gdm :D |
| 18:24.48 | wizard123 | icedove spam reader :| |
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| 18:38.17 | elmo46 | :) |
| 18:40.01 | elmo46 | so, i am happy now :) |
| 18:40.25 | elmo46 | wifi working, battery fully charged, e17 running failry fine |
| 18:40.49 | elmo46 | after an apt-get upgrade, rebooted just fine :D |
| 18:43.00 | elmo46 | now, how do i turn off those damn stars? :P |
| 18:43.03 | Gl0ubI | elmo46: witch wifi ? |
| 18:43.09 | elmo46 | ipw2200 |
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| 18:43.36 | Gl0ubI | it come with Intel centrino no ? |
| 18:43.37 | elmo46 | those stars take up virtually no cpu, eh? |
| 18:43.56 | elmo46 | my laptop? for cpu? yes. |
| 18:44.34 | Gl0ubI | ok thanks |
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| 18:46.00 | elmo46 | Gl0ubI: if you want, i can go to #eliveflood, and paste things for ya? |
| 18:47.22 | elmo46 | ya? no? ;) |
| 18:50.09 | wizard123 | hi again fo_o |
| 18:50.15 | fo_o | ;) |
| 18:50.16 | wizard123 | you have very interesting nick :) |
| 18:50.22 | fo_o | xD |
| 18:50.30 | fo_o | thanks :D |
| 18:50.48 | fo_o | foo is reserved :'( |
| 18:51.05 | wizard123 | but that o_o |
| 18:51.14 | wizard123 | it makes you allways sad |
| 18:51.25 | fo_o | ^_^ |
| 18:51.50 | wizard^^ | :D |
| 18:51.55 | fo_o | :þ |
| 18:52.26 | wizard^^ | :þ |
| 18:52.39 | fo_o | :ø |
| 18:52.47 | fo_o | x( |
| 18:53.47 | fo_o | gparted is very long |
| 18:53.58 | wizard^^ | gparted sux :P |
| 18:54.01 | wizard^^ | use cfdisk |
| 18:54.03 | fo_o | yes :/ |
| 18:54.39 | fo_o | I have to break my partition /porno |
| 18:54.42 | fo_o | x') |
| 18:55.15 | fo_o | I laugh |
| 18:55.16 | fo_o | ^^ |
| 18:56.18 | elmo46 | * pron |
| 18:56.37 | wizard^^ | pr0n |
| 18:57.03 | fo_o | :D |
| 19:09.56 | elmo46 | ok, tried that Demo Video after i installed. |
| 19:10.09 | elmo46 | same stupid thing happens (in every distro) |
| 19:10.27 | elmo46 | the damn video and audio are not synch'd |
| 19:10.37 | elmo46 | audio is always faster then the video |
| 19:13.48 | elmo46 | this is the problem with Linux becoming mainstream. Shitty integration of media and firefox :/ |
| 19:13.57 | elmo46 | or, just MY computer, lol |
| 19:14.18 | elmo46 | i played one video from youtube, pressed Replay, and it froze |
| 19:14.49 | elmo46 | how do i convert to fglrx driver? |
| 19:14.57 | keyra | elmo46: compile a driver... check http://dev.thanatermesis.org/wiki/HowtoBuildDrivers and http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff |
| 19:15.25 | wizard^^ | elmo46: youtube works for me very well |
| 19:23.17 | elmo46 | i had xmms playing at the same time, try that |
| 19:28.12 | toothpick | elmo46: you are lucky, I ilost my wifi and 3d after the apt-get dist-upgrade I should have probably only done apt-get upgrade |
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| 19:32.47 | elmo46 | toothpick: ya, that sucks. |
| 19:32.58 | elmo46 | that happened to me when i did dist-upgrade with MEPIS 6.0 |
| 19:33.03 | elmo46 | i blamed ubuntu :-P |
| 19:33.11 | keyra | elmo46: Ubuntu is OFF topic |
| 19:33.46 | toothpick | so I really should just reinstall and never do a dist-upgrade ? |
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| 19:36.10 | elmo40 | you have the latest? |
| 19:36.12 | elmo40 | 0.6 ? |
| 19:36.57 | toothpick | no it was an older one...say back in november I downloaded it. |
| 19:37.45 | elmo40 | well, get the latest, and install that |
| 19:37.45 | elmo40 | ;) |
| 19:39.19 | elmo40 | any native html editors in eLive? (other then vim ;) ) |
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| 19:41.35 | toothpick | the latest meaning latest stable or latest testing? |
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| 19:44.49 | Elive_user45 | I have a small problem |
| 19:44.57 | keyra | Elive_user45: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 19:46.12 | Elive_user45 | elive is well installed, but the problem, under e17, I have not applications, nothing the whole, and under e16, it goes badly |
| 19:46.20 | keyra | Elive_user45: e17 is in development, remember it, use e16 if you want a complete, stable, and finished WM |
| 19:47.02 | Elive_user45 | the version is elive revolution + |
| 19:47.17 | Elive_user45 | :s |
| 19:48.04 | Elive_user45 | on live Cd, all is perfect |
| 19:48.19 | Elive_user45 | :'( |
| 19:48.26 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user45, http://elive.mirror.testserver.li/isos/development/ |
| 19:48.31 | Thanatermesis | http://elive.mirror.testserver.li/isos/development/README_IMPORTANT.txt |
| 19:49.00 | Elive_user45 | arf :s |
| 19:50.46 | toothpick | why? |
| 19:50.59 | Thanatermesis | not is the first time to i look the case of Elive_user45 |
| 19:51.05 | Thanatermesis | i think to that only give problems to the users |
| 19:51.14 | toothpick | oh i see |
| 19:51.15 | Thanatermesis | or think that Elive is bad |
| 19:51.39 | Thanatermesis | is a ugly and stupid bug |
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| 20:07.10 | elmo40 | i must say, battery life is horrible. |
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| 20:15.30 | brucomela | Thanatermesis, is there a solution for the "ugly bug"? or it's easiest whait a new beta? :) |
| 20:15.33 | Detox | Thana ,,, thank you for all you work in this fine distro!!!!!!!! |
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| 20:16.22 | Detox | I dont care what anyone says ,,, Elive ROCKS !! |
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| 20:17.45 | brucomela | Detox, who says "elive sucks" is a crazy guy:D |
| 20:18.11 | Thanatermesis | Detox, :D |
| 20:18.14 | Detox | Thana ,,, is this the keymap: /usr/share/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 ? |
| 20:18.22 | Thanatermesis | brucomela, well... not really, you can install the stable one |
| 20:18.52 | brucomela | ok thanks. i will whait new one |
| 20:18.56 | Thanatermesis | Detox, is set on /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 20:19.29 | Detox | ok so I have to point to the file that has keymap.... point to that? |
| 20:19.46 | Detox | need it to type remotely |
| 20:19.52 | Detox | from another pc |
| 20:20.34 | i3d | Hi Thanatermesis happy new year to you |
| 20:26.30 | toothpick | thantermesis, do you know what would have ended my wifi and 3d after a dist-upgrade ? |
| 20:32.10 | Thanatermesis | hi i3d :) you too |
| 20:32.27 | Thanatermesis | Detox, no, just the "word", use elpanel if you like better |
| 20:32.36 | Thanatermesis | Detox, ssh ? |
| 20:32.51 | Detox | nossh ,, using NX Client |
| 20:33.09 | Detox | finally got desktop to work and mouse works but no typing |
| 20:33.23 | Thanatermesis | heh |
| 20:33.29 | Detox | # |
| 20:33.30 | Detox | # Specify location and file name of the keymap file used by 'xkbcomp'. |
| 20:33.30 | Detox | # |
| 20:33.30 | Detox | # XKBCOMP_KEYMAP_FILE = "/usr/share/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86" |
| 20:33.30 | Detox | XKBCOMP_KEYMAP_FILE = "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" |
| 20:33.37 | Thanatermesis | uh, no no |
| 20:33.40 | Thanatermesis | use the first line, yes |
| 20:33.41 | Detox | the first is default |
| 20:33.44 | Thanatermesis | make a "ls" of that dir |
| 20:33.51 | Thanatermesis | and look what one you need for you |
| 20:34.10 | Detox | tried that and I got no use of keyboard |
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| 20:35.12 | i3d | Thanatermesis: can you send me the yuch package again for the initrd image? |
| 20:36.59 | i3d | I've had the kernel upgraded to 2.6.18 + em1 |
| 20:38.11 | i3d | and I am trying to get it working on the liveCD |
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| 20:40.49 | Detox | Thana, have you thought any more about creating a server specific Elive? |
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| 20:57.05 | Thanatermesis | i3d, yuch... you mean initramfs ? |
| 20:57.07 | Thanatermesis | Detox_at_Work, what ? |
| 20:57.16 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es have you thought any more about creating a server specific Elive? |
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| 20:57.45 | Thanatermesis | well.. yes Detox_at_Work, but not very time for now, i hope for after of the release of Elive based on debian stablen |
| 20:57.47 | Thanatermesis | stable |
| 20:57.48 | i3d | Hey Thanatermesis, can you send me again the yuch package for the initrd image |
| 20:58.13 | Thanatermesis | i3d, what you mean exactly with yuch ? Elive don't uses that part of dss |
| 20:58.36 | i3d | Thanatermesis: the yuch part in the initrd intergration |
| 20:58.54 | i3d | I had a new kernel compiled and needed to get it for liveCD boot |
| 21:00.10 | Thanatermesis | mmh, wait a second |
| 21:00.11 | i3d | you had sent me a yuch package before but I forgot where I put it |
| 21:00.22 | Thanatermesis | that's deliver then |
| 21:00.36 | i3d | no, not deliver. I've had that. |
| 21:00.49 | Thanatermesis | mmh, but Elive don't uses yuch |
| 21:00.59 | i3d | The yuch that enable the kernel to boot from liveCD |
| 21:01.01 | Thanatermesis | just deliver and base |
| 21:01.24 | i3d | Thanatermesis: really, unless you've changed the architecture of the initrd |
| 21:01.39 | Thanatermesis | mmh, oh.. ok |
| 21:01.42 | Detox_at_Work | Thana,,, who besides you are very versed in server activities? |
| 21:01.48 | Detox_at_Work | server functions? |
| 21:02.04 | Detox_at_Work | I hate to swamp you with questions all the time |
| 21:02.27 | i3d | Thanatermesis: you are still using yuch... I just looked at your latest initrd |
| 21:02.34 | i3d | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.45 | Thanatermesis | i3d, http://thanatermesis.org/users/i3dmaster |
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| 21:06.12 | kender | wizard^^, are you there? |
| 21:08.00 | i3d | Thanatermesis: yep. that's the one. Thanks Thanatermesis ! |
| 21:08.20 | i3d | Thanatermesis: I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.18 |
| 21:08.56 | i3d | with em1 patch set which has many enhancements |
| 21:09.18 | i3d | got it working with bootsplash, so I am looking forward to a big performance jump |
| 21:10.42 | i3d | the yuch.tgz and initramfs-yuch.tgz are essentially the same right? |
| 21:14.07 | Thanatermesis | i3d, what is the em patch ? im using now the ck one + other special optimization options for desktop |
| 21:14.51 | Thanatermesis | i3d, yes, but use the new one, add's a module of scsi-cdrom-emulation very important for Elive...some laptops needs it and for this, some laptops not has boot Elive before |
| 21:15.19 | i3d | Thanatermesis: yes got that. we have internel users reported the problem too |
| 21:15.43 | Thanatermesis | i3d, is fixed on the last rl2 version |
| 21:15.46 | Thanatermesis | revolution rl2 |
| 21:16.22 | i3d | ya I know. kernel greater than 2.6.15 has it auto turned on |
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| 21:16.54 | paratow | hi@all |
| 21:17.04 | paratow | seems like the link to the md5sum is broken |
| 21:17.14 | paratow | anyone got the md5sum so i can verify? |
| 21:17.29 | paratow | also, i suggest including the md5sum into the actual page. |
| 21:17.34 | i3d | Thanatermesis: the em1 patchset is the probably the most comprehensive kernel patchset for desktop or server env. its from the gentoo team, released every several month sync'ed with the main kernel released. the latest for 2.6.18 is em1 |
| 21:18.09 | Thanatermesis | paratow, md5 are included on all downloads links, not on the page, hte page is static and needs to are updated everytime, on the downloads link are updated in the same time to the iso |
| 21:18.29 | Thanatermesis | i3d, sounds like very similar to the ck one |
| 21:18.45 | i3d | Thanatermesis: ck is just a part of the em patchset |
| 21:18.54 | i3d | em is much more than ck |
| 21:19.09 | paratow | Thanatermesis: well, http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/Stable/ clearly links to http://mirrors.alien2thisworld.net/Elive/isos/.votFeegmar5/Elive_Revolution.md5 which is dead |
| 21:19.19 | i3d | Thanatermesis: http://evolution-missin.org |
| 21:19.31 | i3d | evolution-mission.org |
| 21:19.44 | paratow | also, not all people download using http. bittorrent for example. |
| 21:20.15 | i3d | another patchset that's very nice is called beyond, which is also bigger than ck patchset. |
| 21:20.19 | wizard^^ | keyra: yup |
| 21:20.29 | i3d | http://iphitus.loudas.com/beyond.html |
| 21:21.13 | Thanatermesis | i3d, and you think to em is better than ck ? |
| 21:21.32 | i3d | Thanatermesis: oh ya, em includes all ck patches and more and more.. |
| 21:21.47 | paratow | anyways... just wanted to let you know. |
| 21:21.49 | paratow | good night |
| 21:21.54 | i3d | ck is one of the basic patchset included in em patch |
| 21:22.26 | Thanatermesis | <paratow> Thanatermesis: well, http://elivecd.org/gb/Download/Stable/ clearly links to http://mirrors.alien2thisworld.net/Elive/isos/.votFeegmar5/Elive_Revolution.md5 which is dead |
| 21:22.28 | Thanatermesis | o_0' |
| 21:23.03 | i3d | I think one of the things that em patch trying to address is harden the memory management, scheduler, vm, and filesystem ability in kernel |
| 21:23.25 | Thanatermesis | i3d, then is good to use ALL the em patches or just some ? |
| 21:24.23 | i3d | Thanatermesis: I carefully choose the ones that will benefits for destop users which is mainly for the liveCD. when you goes to server edition, you will consider to patch that piece of stuff. |
| 21:24.39 | i3d | Thanatermesis: so to answer your question, yes I pick some not all |
| 21:24.51 | wizard^^ | gr security? |
| 21:25.30 | i3d | such as I stripped off the vesa-tng and fbsplash part which i don't feel comfortable putting into the liveCD and also the badRAM patch |
| 21:25.54 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 21:26.02 | i3d | the speakup kernel patch is somewhat useless, so I took it off too |
| 21:26.54 | i3d | Thanatermesis: I still have bootsplash patched, so it will be consistent with the old initrd architecture |
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| 21:27.57 | i3d | and I've been able to get most of the modules compiled too under 2.6.18 |
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| 21:42.53 | roxville_ | :) |
| 21:43.19 | roxville_ | well, you've been around... but now you're back in business again... :D |
| 21:43.23 | i3d | *** everyone here in elive happy new year! |
| 21:43.48 | roxville_ | :) |
| 21:44.03 | i3d | roxville_: ya, I was actually working underground... just not popup too much lately |
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| 21:44.27 | i3d | getting busy to upgrade our internel version of elive |
| 21:44.29 | roxville_ | ok, got it |
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| 21:51.12 | erstav | elive revolution rl2 always drops to busybox when i try to boot it. is this a known problem? |
| 21:51.41 | erstav | Loading, please wait... |
| 21:51.46 | erstav | [: missing ] |
| 21:51.59 | erstav | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.57 | Detox_at_Work | I had that prob,,,, did a repartition and it worked fine |
| 21:53.16 | erstav | repartition what? the harddisk? |
| 21:54.51 | Detox_at_Work | yes |
| 21:55.18 | erstav | hmm. i'm not touching my harddisk to make a live-cd work... |
| 21:55.51 | Detox_at_Work | oh sorry thought you were trying to install it |
| 21:55.52 | Detox_at_Work | sorry |
| 21:56.09 | erstav | nope. just trying to boot the live-cd. |
| 21:57.13 | erstav | the splash screen doesnt work on that pc (its a laptop - splashscreens just dont seem to work) |
| 21:57.20 | roxville_ | erstav, you have a bad cd |
| 21:57.22 | keyra | erstav: thanks |
| 21:57.30 | roxville_ | how fast did you burn it? |
| 21:58.05 | erstav | not sure. didnt change the setting. but i didnt have any problems priorly. |
| 21:58.12 | erstav | i'll check the md5sum... |
| 21:58.33 | Detox_at_Work | on my DL's I had to burn at 8x |
| 21:58.42 | Detox_at_Work | more than that would mess up |
| 21:58.55 | roxville_ | me too, i NEVER burn at higher speed than that |
| 21:59.44 | erstav | btw: can elive boot off firewire cdrom? |
| 22:01.30 | Detox_at_Work | if you can set it in bios |
| 22:01.50 | Detox_at_Work | can you boot from that appliance? |
| 22:02.19 | erstav | thats no problem. i had a problem once with a gentoo-livecd because it lacked kernel support for firewire. thats why i ask. |
| 22:02.30 | roxville_ | erstav, i don't think so... |
| 22:02.40 | erstav | e15f9f1112e02e1235895434eb44b1df /dev/hda |
| 22:02.53 | erstav | still think it might be a problem with the burning speed? |
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| 22:04.04 | roxville_ | lol, ok...not! |
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| 22:22.32 | Elive_user26 | hello, anyone here? :) I'm testing elive with nVidia. So far so good. I'm running glxgears. Looks smooth. How do I get glxgears to show frames/second? Thanks |
| 22:22.40 | keyra | Elive_user26: hi |
| 22:22.53 | Elive_user26 | hello. |
| 22:23.15 | GPLGeek | Elive_user26, nobodys here |
| 22:23.29 | GPLGeek | um.... |
| 22:23.42 | Elive_user26 | cute |
| 22:23.42 | GPLGeek | glxgears needs a --parameter to show fps |
| 22:24.42 | GPLGeek | alias glxgears='glxgears -printfps' |
| 22:25.02 | GPLGeek | put that in .bashrc |
| 22:25.11 | GPLGeek | if you install |
| 22:25.20 | GPLGeek | otherwise just gplgears -printfps |
| 22:25.22 | Elive_user26 | thank you GPLGeek |
| 22:25.51 | Gwildor | yeah...thank you |
| 22:26.13 | GPLGeek | I dont just answer questions, i give solutions =p |
| 22:26.30 | Gwildor | im launching it from CLI for a REASON!! |
| 22:26.49 | GPLGeek | the command used to be |
| 22:27.02 | Gwildor | glxgears |
| 22:27.04 | GPLGeek | glxgears --iawknowledgethatglxgearsisnotabenchmark |
| 22:27.04 | Gwildor | :P |
| 22:27.19 | GPLGeek | that is what it used to be |
| 22:27.26 | GPLGeek | they got sick of people using it as a benchmark |
| 22:27.33 | Elive_user26 | I'm getting 1600 to 1900+ here. On PCLinuxOS I got less than 4 (four) because (I think) of a bug in gam_server |
| 22:27.39 | GPLGeek | its a great tool for 2d benchmarking using mainly cpu though |
| 22:27.53 | Gwildor | why did they get sick of it...does it matter? |
| 22:28.09 | Gwildor | its an "overall guestimate" to me.. |
| 22:28.16 | Gwildor | no where near a "benchmark" |
| 22:28.53 | Gwildor | brb |
| 22:29.16 | GPLGeek | it was part of the mesa-tools project i think |
| 22:29.19 | wizard^^ | diabetik: tell detox ok |
| 22:29.19 | diabetik | wizard^^: Error: I haven't seen detox, I'll let you do the telling. |
| 22:29.24 | Elive_user26 | benchmark or no, when I get 4 fps and can see it jirking, I ... don't need no stinkin' benchmark - but I want one anyway. Thanks |
| 22:29.26 | GPLGeek | and they didnt want it to be used as a benchmark for their driver |
| 22:29.28 | wizard^^ | diabetik: tell Detox ok |
| 22:29.28 | diabetik | wizard^^: Error: I haven't seen Detox, I'll let you do the telling. |
| 22:29.33 | wizard^^ | diabetik: tell Detox_work ok |
| 22:29.33 | diabetik | wizard^^: Error: I haven't seen Detox_work, I'll let you do the telling. |
| 22:29.39 | wizard^^ | o_O |
| 22:29.41 | GPLGeek | mesa-utils excuse me |
| 22:30.53 | GPLGeek | eww...... low glxgears frames on my system |
| 22:31.05 | GPLGeek | only 8000fps |
| 22:31.15 | GPLGeek | amd64 3700+ and ati x800 |
| 22:31.18 | Gwildor | PSH |
| 22:31.22 | GPLGeek | im used to breaking 11,000 |
| 22:31.32 | Gwildor | i jsut got 300-ish @ fullscreen glxgears |
| 22:32.03 | GPLGeek | full screen ill test mine |
| 22:32.13 | GPLGeek | they look very smooooth |
| 22:32.21 | Gwildor | yeah, mine are smooth..... |
| 22:32.21 | keyra | GPLGeek: bee ]:) |
| 22:32.26 | Gwildor | idk if as smooth as urs.. |
| 22:32.28 | Gwildor | but look good |
| 22:32.35 | GPLGeek | 800fps full screen |
| 22:32.37 | GPLGeek | wow |
| 22:32.47 | GPLGeek | thats exactly 10 times less frames! |
| 22:33.11 | Gwildor | i was getting about 5x more @ windowed mode |
| 22:33.31 | GPLGeek | well we know quake will run on the system =[ |
| 22:33.36 | GPLGeek | haha |
| 22:34.08 | Elive_user26 | I'm getting 550 full screen 1280x1024. VERY sorry, I screwed up reported frames in 5 seconds. I'm really getting 1800+- on this 3 year old box. |
| 22:34.15 | GPLGeek | wow |
| 22:34.35 | GPLGeek | my isp called me and asked if I wanted to move to etch from redhat for elivedev.org |
| 22:34.53 | GPLGeek | they are getting ready to go debian-based this year when etch is released |
| 22:35.11 | GPLGeek | with virtual servers |
| 22:35.29 | Gwildor | DO IT. |
| 22:35.31 | Gwildor | F RHEL |
| 22:35.32 | GPLGeek | they MAY do it, its not for sure |
| 22:35.46 | GPLGeek | they did ask the customers though what they wanted. thats odd in itself |
| 22:36.23 | GPLGeek | most companies will not |
| 22:36.23 | roxville_ | cool though! |
| 22:36.23 | Elive_user26 | I'm getting 150 ish fps full screen. Hmmm this sucks. |
| 22:36.46 | GPLGeek | Elive_user26, you can still play enemy-territory so dont worry |
| 22:37.18 | GPLGeek | what video card? |
| 22:37.44 | GPLGeek | hmmm..... my etch system wants to update xorg |
| 22:37.58 | GPLGeek | i wonder if I will have to recompile my drivers |
| 22:38.32 | Elive_user26 | I have an old GForce 4 440 about 4 years old - bought it used on ebay for $70 2 years ago. |
| 22:38.54 | Elive_user26 | What comman do I use to see what the card is?? thanks |
| 22:39.44 | Elive_user26 | GPLGeek, you really get 11k? Full screen?? :) |
| 22:40.08 | GPLGeek | on my SLI system with amd X2 cpu |
| 22:40.22 | GPLGeek | i get higher |
| 22:40.29 | GPLGeek | actually i should reboot and test |
| 22:40.48 | Elive_user26 | GPLGeek, Last weekend was the first time I booted into elive and I liked it so well I stayed on liveCD for 24 hours. |
| 22:40.59 | roxville_ | :) |
| 22:41.20 | roxville_ | ok, i gotta fix dinner...bbl |
| 22:41.50 | GPLGeek | ya... I've been using elive for ... well it will be 2 years next week |
| 22:41.51 | roxville_ | hmmm...stove or microwave... |
| 22:42.06 | roxville_ | stove |
| 22:42.15 | GPLGeek | I've been using elive/sarge/etch for a long time and Love it. |
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| 22:43.38 | GPLGeek | I had spent a lot of time on slackware, using tar.gz's to install apps. |
| 22:43.39 | Elive_user26 | Isn't there a file to view with cat to see what video card I have. (I hate it when I get lost away from my usual system :/ ) |
| 22:43.47 | roxville_ | micro wave is for geeks... |
| 22:44.04 | GPLGeek | we made a nice tar.gz based pacakage manager but apt was way better. |
| 22:50.30 | PrinceAMD | good evening #elive |
| 22:50.46 | hilltop_ | What are the 3D kinds of things I should see here and play with? I thought elive had the rotating cubes desktop. |
| 22:54.50 | roxville_ | hilltop_, you are talking about XGL and stuff... |
| 22:54.57 | roxville_ | elive doesn't have that |
| 22:55.25 | wizard^^ | hi roxville_ |
| 22:55.34 | roxville_ | enlightenment e17 provides plenty of eye candy without those things, and is very light on RAM usage... |
| 22:55.39 | roxville_ | hi wizard^^ |
| 22:56.01 | roxville_ | but no rotating cubes... |
| 22:56.16 | wizard^^ | rotating cubes rox :P |
| 22:57.15 | GPLGeek | I have the latest ATI FGLRX drivers updated for the latest version of etch |
| 22:57.19 | GPLGeek | time to create them for elive |
| 22:57.31 | hilltop_ | I only rotate cubes once a year, like I rotate tires. :) Ohterwise right, don't need um. I must be thinking of another distro. |
| 22:58.07 | GPLGeek | hilltop_, 3ddesktop |
| 22:58.12 | GPLGeek | you might have to apt-get it i forget |
| 22:58.20 | hilltop_ | But I still wonder about tehe3D acceleration. Last week I booted without that option, this week I did. Almost expecting not to boot. So far so good. |
| 22:58.43 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, do let me test i have an ati card here as well |
| 22:58.49 | GPLGeek | well the fglrx and nvidia drivers work in elive |
| 22:58.52 | roxville_ | for XGL you have to downgrade to Gnome or KDE... |
| 22:58.53 | roxville_ | :D |
| 22:59.08 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 22:59.11 | wizard^^ | downgrade :P |
| 22:59.14 | GPLGeek | roxville_, you can still do 3d stuff with E its just not popular |
| 22:59.16 | PrinceAMD | "downgrade" |
| 22:59.35 | GPLGeek | its not xgl / compiz, but who cares |
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| 23:00.43 | hilltop_ | I just went into the elive control, I thought I saw a rotating cube .... or maybe I saw a pwuddie cat. :) |
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| 23:01.39 | GPLGeek | apt-get install 3ddesktop |
| 23:02.27 | Elive_user37 | the stable version is better |
| 23:02.28 | Elive_user37 | xD |
| 23:02.34 | hilltop_ | GPLGeek, If I load that, then I log out to get it? Not sure about this since I'm on Livecd. |
| 23:02.42 | GPLGeek | then type 3ddesk in console |
| 23:02.54 | GPLGeek | you can just apt it and run |
| 23:03.34 | roxville_ | hilltop_, that was the 3ddesktop...a desktop switcher |
| 23:03.48 | roxville_ | i wish thana would take that one out...it's just a toy |
| 23:03.59 | roxville_ | and you have to use a terminal to use it |
| 23:04.06 | roxville_ | oh... |
| 23:04.25 | wizard^^ | 3ddesktop did not work on my desk ;) |
| 23:04.39 | GPLGeek | 3ddesktop lets you bind keys to use it |
| 23:04.51 | roxville_ | ok, ok... |
| 23:04.57 | hilltop_ | roxville_, OK, I've seen it in earlier versions. Now given a flat earth here :) how do I get more desktops (workspaces)? Thanks |
| 23:05.26 | roxville_ | hill more? you have 4 to start with... |
| 23:06.10 | roxville_ | just move your mouse to the end ov the screen...and beoynd |
| 23:06.11 | hilltop_ | 4 - yes. I usually run with 12. :) |
| 23:06.11 | roxville_ | ok |
| 23:06.12 | roxville_ | it's in the desktop menu..under configs |
| 23:06.25 | hilltop_ | I know how to get the the other 3, discovered that way neato trick last time. :) |
| 23:07.14 | roxville_ | just click in the window switcher or just move the mouse to the side...and a little further |
| 23:07.48 | GPLGeek | and why not just make a button on your ibar that launches 3ddesk |
| 23:07.50 | GPLGeek | hehe |
| 23:09.33 | roxville_ | GPLGeek, not a bad idea... |
| 23:09.34 | hilltop_ | roxville_, I have stuff in all four desks, now I want more! :) Thinks of the hungery orchid. |
| 23:09.44 | roxville_ | LOL |
| 23:10.05 | roxville_ | our dev, Thanatermesis usually has around 30 desktops, iirc |
| 23:10.26 | GPLGeek | yes lol |
| 23:10.38 | GPLGeek | one time he had 51 and his X reset |
| 23:10.43 | hilltop_ | I've got desktop envy. |
| 23:10.52 | roxville_ | in the configs...look for "virual desktops" |
| 23:10.59 | roxville_ | hehe |
| 23:11.18 | hilltop_ | I love to show off to Windows geeks (can I say Wind... here??) |
| 23:11.23 | roxville_ | my brain resets after 8 |
| 23:11.45 | roxville_ | hilltop_, yes...just not the "U" word... |
| 23:11.53 | roxville_ | :D |
| 23:12.21 | roxville_ | as in the "south arfican distro" |
| 23:14.49 | hilltop_ | OK, I got my 12, but I want 50!! hehe Now that is a nice control panel! I saw the other one last week, hadn't seen this one. Oh my (drools on keyboard) |
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| 23:15.33 | hilltop_ | roxville_, I suppose I don't dare say the Ku... word either. :) |
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| 23:16.02 | mikes1 | hello all |
| 23:16.10 | keyra | mikes1: hi |
| 23:16.21 | hilltop_ | I'd rather run a S.A distro that the "legacy" OS. :) |
| 23:17.07 | roxville_ | :) |
| 23:17.39 | roxville_ | nothing that ends with "untu"...let's leave it at that :) |
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| 23:18.17 | roxville_ | ese Mutacion :) |
| 23:18.24 | roxville_ | Mr MAC! |
| 23:18.38 | Mutacion | rox!! |
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| 23:18.50 | Mutacion | how things going!! |
| 23:18.57 | Mutacion | i really luv mi mac!! |
| 23:18.59 | roxville_ | not bad :) |
| 23:19.05 | roxville_ | i'm cooking dinner |
| 23:19.15 | hilltop_ | roxville_, You know, I'm on Linux now because 3 years ago my Winblows died requiring expensive restoration. While I waited "in line" for a few weeks, I ran KNOPPIX as a liveCD - ran without a hitch for weeks. |
| 23:19.23 | roxville_ | i bet you do...they are usually...awesome :) |
| 23:19.33 | Mutacion | i installed something named - virtuedesktop- is like elive.. u have windows and wth mouse u can change ur virtual screens jojo |
| 23:19.46 | Mutacion | ahh!! im at a nice hour :P |
| 23:19.55 | Mutacion | what will be eating for dinner |
| 23:19.56 | roxville_ | LOL |
| 23:20.03 | roxville_ | you are always hungry! |
| 23:20.13 | roxville_ | hilltop_, yeah...i was in a similar sit |
| 23:21.38 | roxville_ | i started with lindows and suse...got over them pretty quickly |
| 23:21.59 | roxville_ | and...i came here via the "untu" distro :) |
| 23:22.40 | roxville_ | Mutacion, chicken...i found some wine in the fridge, so i added that... some oregano, thyme and a few other hebs |
| 23:22.49 | roxville_ | hebs = herbs |
| 23:25.00 | hilltop_ | What repositories does elive use? |
| 23:25.40 | roxville_ | debian etch...and a repo of it's own |
| 23:25.50 | Mutacion | uyy wine!! |
| 23:25.53 | Mutacion | white wine? |
| 23:25.59 | roxville_ | PrinceAMD, have you seen the dali theme? |
| 23:26.37 | roxville_ | Mutacion, no... i found a bottle of red....didn't see the white one behind it...until it was too late... |
| 23:27.04 | roxville_ | PrinceAMD, http://www4.get-e.org/Themes/E17/ |
| 23:27.09 | roxville_ | look at the clock! |
| 23:27.11 | roxville_ | :D |
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| 23:27.43 | Mutacion | jojo |
| 23:27.49 | roxville_ | *sigh* |
| 23:27.58 | roxville_ | <roxville_> PrinceAMD, have you seen the dali theme? |
| 23:28.04 | roxville_ | <roxville_> PrinceAMD, http://www4.get-e.org/Themes/E17/ |
| 23:28.05 | roxville_ | <roxville_> look at the clock! |
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| 23:28.59 | roxville_ | but i let the wine "cook in"...the chicken will be a bit dark...but i can live with that... i guess :) |
| 23:30.12 | roxville_ | hilltop_, IF you feel "experimental"...just wait a few days ... but there's a dev version of e17 in the elive repo that you can install... |
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| 23:30.22 | roxville_ | "the latest and greatest" |
| 23:30.37 | roxville_ | but every now and then, it's broken...like right now... |
| 23:31.15 | hilltop_ | Is live debian? |
| 23:31.20 | hilltop_ | Is elive debian? |
| 23:31.21 | roxville_ | or it's not e17 itself, but the login manager...entrance |
| 23:31.33 | roxville_ | elive IS debian, yes |
| 23:32.46 | wizard^^ | virgins on #debian said something else ;) |
| 23:32.58 | Mutacion | hilltop_: its based on debian.. and uses cvs E |
| 23:34.26 | roxville_ | GPLGeek, http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=20495&hed=Linux%3A+Ubuntu+Founder+On+Microsoft+%E2%80%9CChallenge%E2%80%9D+ |
| 23:34.45 | SuperpeZ | gn8 |
| 23:34.53 | roxville_ | night SuperpeZ |
| 23:37.50 | wizard^^ | uhh |
| 23:38.00 | wizard^^ | that gn8 was good night? |
| 23:38.45 | SuperpeZ | yes, time for sleep here |
| 23:39.06 | SuperpeZ | 00.40 |
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| 23:41.07 | GPLGeek | roxville_, I think if Security-Sac released its white papers and symantec issues the alert about the rootkits, windows is done |
| 23:41.52 | GPLGeek | vista does not offer anything innovative about computing unless you count larger, more vulnerable security holes |
| 23:42.19 | wizard^^ | security issues are not innovative, GPLGeek ;) |
| 23:42.24 | GPLGeek | you can put in a cd into vista, or play a media file in quicktime, and have a undetectable rootkit installed signed as a core driver |
| 23:43.05 | GPLGeek | so in 10 minutes and a post to a video site hundreds, and then thousands of people will be infected. |
| 23:43.17 | GPLGeek | they will spread it exponentially and vista will be crippled |
| 23:43.51 | GPLGeek | Symantec asks if this is intentional they think it is |
| 23:44.12 | GPLGeek | they think that MS programmed the security hole so only its one-care can take care of the 0 day problems |
| 23:44.32 | GPLGeek | its all about sales of more proprietary software |
| 23:44.43 | GPLGeek | they are trying to put norton, etc out of business |
| 23:45.22 | hilltop_ | GPLGeek, where did you read about this? Interesting. |
| 23:45.49 | GPLGeek | SSac members |
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| 23:46.49 | mastroDani | hi mates |
| 23:47.01 | wizard^^ | hi mastroDani |
| 23:47.01 | mastroDani | how was your new year? |
| 23:47.06 | wizard^^ | it sux |
| 23:47.06 | mastroDani | :D |
| 23:47.09 | GPLGeek | http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1983037,00.asp thats one of them |
| 23:47.11 | mastroDani | wizard^^, lol |
| 23:47.17 | mastroDani | why? |
| 23:47.27 | GPLGeek | there are over 80 ways to plant a kernel or driver level root kit into vista |
| 23:48.02 | wizard^^ | i'm trying to learn something :) |
| 23:48.06 | GPLGeek | and only 5 of the ways have been blocked |
| 23:48.23 | mastroDani | GPLGeek, lol.. can you give me a little summary of your chat? it seems interesting |
| 23:48.45 | GPLGeek | quote " there is a unknown method where internet explorer users who have flash somehow, and unknowingly, end up with a rootkit on their system" |
| 23:48.54 | GPLGeek | that was from ms |
| 23:50.59 | GPLGeek | oh well... my chat also had some bad things about linux =p |
| 23:52.05 | GPLGeek | the worst security problem that linux has is PHP code in apache. a apache server should always be its own virtual server, and get backups daily. |
| 23:52.21 | GPLGeek | mainly this isnt a problem directly with linux |
| 23:52.26 | GPLGeek | but its the most often reported issue |
| 23:52.42 | hilltop_ | Oh grief, my mplayer just jammed up. |
| 23:52.49 | Mutacion | yeah i got a pob when i used apache in the servers :s |
| 23:53.02 | GPLGeek | there were some ubuntu issues though that could have caused some trouble |
| 23:53.10 | keyra | GPLGeek: Ubuntu is OFF topic |
| 23:53.25 | GPLGeek | also they were really really really hostile vs linux Audio |
| 23:53.35 | GPLGeek | keyra, I am above the law |
| 23:55.11 | GPLGeek | Sara (one of the members) said "Linux will never be a gaming platform or multimedia platform without a sane sound system that supports multiple software channels" |
| 23:55.31 | GPLGeek | it might be true... i mean i cant play enemy-territory and listen to music at the same time |