| 00:00.05 | eJcal | three? |
| 00:00.14 | wizard123 | yes 3 |
| 00:00.24 | eJcal | debian, fedora, suse? |
| 00:00.31 | wizard123 | yuck |
| 00:00.32 | hilltop_ | wiz, what is a command like reboot but not "reboot" to get into another desktop, namely icewm? Ctr-Alt back arrow to kill X then startx? |
| 00:00.51 | wizard123 | hilltop_: you can do it like this |
| 00:00.58 | wizard123 | but use twm's menu |
| 00:01.11 | wizard123 | eJcal: slackware, gentoo, debian |
| 00:01.18 | wizard123 | the rest does not matter |
| 00:01.50 | wizard123 | 'cuz: 1. everything else is base on one of those 3 |
| 00:02.15 | wizard123 | 2. rest is allmost unknown :) |
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| 00:03.20 | eJcal | so are redhat & suse from slackware? |
| 00:03.30 | wizard123 | suse - yes |
| 00:03.34 | wizard123 | in ancient times |
| 00:03.47 | eJcal | like mid 90's |
| 00:03.48 | wizard123 | redhat is rpm based so it does not count :P |
| 00:03.52 | wizard123 | yeah |
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| 00:04.24 | eJcal | Have you seen the movie "The Code Linux" |
| 00:04.30 | wizard123 | o_O |
| 00:04.38 | wizard123 | i haven't even heared about it |
| 00:04.59 | eJcal | it's a documentry about linus and the whole fsf & opensource movement |
| 00:05.04 | eJcal | I found it on google. |
| 00:05.49 | wizard123 | hmm |
| 00:05.57 | wizard123 | it does not want to buffer |
| 00:07.39 | hilltop_ | wizard123, I got the menu, looked around. Don't see a desktop switcher like I used to get in here. I could exit and hope it doesn't reboot. |
| 00:08.02 | wizard123 | it won't reboot, it will give you login screen |
| 00:08.11 | hilltop_ | ok |
| 00:08.56 | wizard123 | eJcal: that hairy guy is richard stallman, right? |
| 00:09.08 | eJcal | hahaha yep |
| 00:09.29 | eJcal | Most of the people in it are kinda grungy looking... |
| 00:09.34 | wizard123 | o_O |
| 00:09.49 | wizard123 | omg.. i won't cut my hairs |
| 00:09.53 | eJcal | lol |
| 00:10.23 | eJcal | I haven't shaved in 2 weeks... and I only change my underware on wednessdays! |
| 00:10.44 | eJcal | I'm a really devoted fsf kinda guy. |
| 00:11.32 | eJcal | Yep! gotta maintain the personafication. |
| 00:11.38 | wizard123 | :] |
| 00:12.18 | eJcal | enjoy the movie.. I downloaded and watched later. Even burned a copy for my boss. He was greatful. |
| 00:12.27 | wizard123 | :] |
| 00:13.45 | eJcal | you will find that some of it is not in english... and it is subtitled in swedish. Nevertheless it's good. My kids are gonna get a quiz on it... |
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| 00:14.17 | eJcal | well got to run for now. bbl. |
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| 00:14.20 | z00mbie | hola! quien me dice dond puedo conseguir los codecs win32 |
| 00:26.02 | get | whats the way to downgrade gcc to 3.2 ? |
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| 00:27.13 | hilltop_ | wizard123, It made me reboot. Now I'm back in icewm. I think twm is a little too brief for me. :) |
| 00:28.52 | wizard123 | icewm sux :P |
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| 00:34.01 | wizard123 | have somebody tried arklinux? |
| 00:34.12 | hilltop_ | wizard123, yea, I can go to syste, -> windowmanager and see only icewm. hehe, at least in fluxbox I can go to icewm or fluxbox. |
| 00:34.33 | wizard123 | all because of misconfigured men |
| 00:34.36 | wizard123 | menu* |
| 00:37.06 | hilltop_ | bye, bye. I'm booting elive. :) |
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| 00:38.04 | hilltop_ | oh, wait, gotta check a few things. :) |
| 00:41.15 | wizard123 | shit |
| 00:41.23 | hilltop_ | I'm watchng The Code Linux, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498228245415745977 |
| 00:41.37 | wizard123 | alan cox from red hat want's to patent DRM |
| 00:41.40 | wizard123 | but.. |
| 00:41.46 | wizard123 | wtf is that DRM? |
| 00:41.51 | wizard123 | direct rendering manager? |
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| 00:45.32 | hilltop_ | Microsoft is in court arguing against petents, should be interesting |
| 00:47.01 | wizard123 | ok, ark sux :P |
| 00:48.58 | GPLGeek | hilltop, microsoft will lose |
| 00:49.12 | GPLGeek | hilltop they can not produce a actual pattent violation in linux |
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| 00:49.47 | wizard123 | GPLGeek: why not? |
| 00:50.03 | wizard123 | they have alot money, they can do everyting |
| 00:50.15 | GPLGeek | wizard123, they can not show anyone any code, in comparison, that violates |
| 00:50.20 | GPLGeek | because it doesnt exist |
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| 00:51.08 | wizard123 | hmm... but patent is patent.. if they prove that linux soucre voilates their registered patents.. than.. yeah.. what then? |
| 00:51.58 | GPLGeek | the code that they say they had pattented had been created, copywritten, and pattented BEFORE microsoft's pattent ever existed and the code is no longer in use in the linux/gnu modern systems. |
| 00:52.17 | wizard123 | heh |
| 00:52.28 | wizard123 | but m$ is making a hype :D |
| 00:52.51 | GPLGeek | its 1996 code that was written BEFORE windows 2000 came out |
| 00:53.22 | GPLGeek | hey im going on a diet |
| 00:53.24 | GPLGeek | http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20070106.html |
| 00:53.55 | wizard123 | lol |
| 00:54.09 | wizard123 | you reminded me about userfriendly :D |
| 00:55.12 | hilltop_ | Microsoft has been sued and is defending against yet another expensive patent violation. FSF has joined as a friend of the court briefer against patents. |
| 00:55.18 | GPLGeek | oh MS's claim that they created user friendly, so anything friendly to the user is theirs |
| 00:55.51 | GPLGeek | I swear im going to pattent air and charge them to breathe |
| 00:56.00 | wizard123 | lol |
| 00:56.16 | wizard123 | GPLGeek: chill out :D http://userfriendly.org |
| 00:56.16 | GPLGeek | everyone else can be covered under my FAL - Free Air Licence |
| 00:56.17 | wizard123 | ;) |
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| 00:56.30 | Elive_user74 | hi |
| 00:56.35 | wizard123 | 2 breathes per hour ? |
| 00:56.37 | wizard123 | hi Elive_user74 |
| 00:56.58 | Elive_user74 | is it possible to set up display size with a gui |
| 00:57.12 | wizard123 | yes, xorgcfg |
| 00:57.22 | Elive_user74 | thx |
| 00:57.35 | wizard123 | and elpanel, i think |
| 00:57.53 | GPLGeek | lol, this windows user is having problems. Saying "My desktop freezes when I remove my removable hard drive" lol |
| 00:58.31 | Elive_user74 | :) |
| 00:58.35 | wizard123 | man.. i work as network admin.. |
| 00:58.36 | GPLGeek | its funny |
| 00:59.02 | wizard123 | and sometimes i had to deal with fscking loosers.. |
| 00:59.09 | GPLGeek | I used to be a network admin and infrastructure specialist |
| 00:59.34 | wizard123 | like cute blondes saying: could you do something? my IM is not working, *please* |
| 00:59.37 | GPLGeek | intern/learning |
| 01:00.03 | GPLGeek | I worked at a school |
| 01:00.14 | wizard123 | i'm workning in dormitory |
| 01:00.28 | GPLGeek | I cought teachers with porn |
| 01:00.39 | GPLGeek | cought kids with all sorts of stuff |
| 01:01.01 | GPLGeek | everyone was trying to be the best hacker when they were all just noobs |
| 01:01.32 | wizard123 | i'm still a n00b |
| 01:01.56 | Pacma | buenas noches uno que se marcha |
| 01:02.01 | GPLGeek | my favorite.... :send , net send * Illegal Operation, your brain will be shut down! , goto :send |
| 01:02.12 | GPLGeek | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.26 | wizard123 | damn.. i can't find any linux distro which is not based on debian or redhat.. |
| 01:02.30 | wizard123 | GPLGeek: omg :D |
| 01:02.53 | GPLGeek | 1337 h4x |
| 01:03.08 | GPLGeek | because that bombed 4 schools, district, and the capital of the state |
| 01:03.41 | wizard123 | kurwa mac xD |
| 01:03.57 | GPLGeek | gentoo is not debiand or redhat based |
| 01:04.10 | wizard123 | slackware too xD |
| 01:04.15 | GPLGeek | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:04.21 | wizard123 | i know gentoo |
| 01:04.34 | GPLGeek | oh yes slackware is tar.gz but it supports the rpm tool just because its a "standard" |
| 01:04.36 | wizard123 | i even have one |
| 01:04.45 | GPLGeek | but there is also rpm avaliable for debian with a wrapper..... |
| 01:04.53 | GPLGeek | arch linux.... |
| 01:04.55 | wizard123 | !rpms |
| 01:04.59 | wizard123 | arch is nice |
| 01:05.13 | wizard123 | but i don't like it's pacman |
| 01:05.35 | wizard123 | i think that after one year of punishment i'll return to slackware |
| 01:05.40 | GPLGeek | pacman isnt bad.... |
| 01:06.23 | GPLGeek | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.29 | wizard123 | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20060805&mode=classic |
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| 01:06.42 | GPLGeek | right now debian etch offers profiles, desktop, laptop, file server, etc... |
| 01:06.48 | wizard123 | i would use freebsd :D |
| 01:07.32 | GPLGeek | if you could make your own line that says "apache ftp samba X nvidia" etc.... it would be nice so only the depends of those are loaded |
| 01:08.06 | wizard123 | but.. but.. it does not support all my hardware :'( |
| 01:08.13 | wizard123 | i know portage and its adventages |
| 01:08.35 | wizard123 | not that gnome failed to build without any reason yesterday |
| 01:10.40 | GPLGeek | well right now i could take any linux from scratch |
| 01:10.44 | GPLGeek | and make it support my hardware |
| 01:10.49 | GPLGeek | so thats not a big deal for me |
| 01:11.04 | wizard123 | linux supports all my hardware pretty well |
| 01:11.09 | wizard123 | freebsd is *not* linux |
| 01:11.19 | GPLGeek | i know |
| 01:11.24 | wizard123 | good :) |
| 01:11.27 | wizard123 | eh.. |
| 01:11.32 | GPLGeek | freebsd has awsome routing and domain control |
| 01:11.35 | wizard123 | nothing's perfect |
| 01:11.42 | GPLGeek | afk, have to go |
| 01:11.58 | wizard123 | ok |
| 01:11.59 | wizard123 | byea |
| 01:16.53 | wizard123 | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20060817&mode=classic |
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| 01:27.30 | wizard123 | hilltop_: about patents: |
| 01:27.34 | wizard123 | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20061001&mode=classic |
| 01:29.21 | hilltop_ | hi, ... |
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| 01:30.03 | C2H5OH | hi |
| 01:30.13 | hilltop_ | oh that is funny. |
| 01:30.30 | wizard123 | hi C2H5OH |
| 01:30.34 | wizard123 | you have very nice nick |
| 01:30.38 | C2H5OH | thanks |
| 01:30.43 | C2H5OH | I guess you know what it means |
| 01:30.48 | wizard123 | of course :D |
| 01:30.54 | C2H5OH | :-P |
| 01:31.00 | wizard123 | my body can't live without it |
| 01:31.03 | C2H5OH | heheeh |
| 01:31.11 | C2H5OH | I'm glad about it |
| 01:31.12 | C2H5OH | ;-) |
| 01:31.20 | C2H5OH | (mine either9 |
| 01:31.26 | wizard123 | :P |
| 01:31.46 | C2H5OH | I have a question related to elive, but is related in a somewhat "weak" way |
| 01:31.53 | wizard123 | shoot |
| 01:32.04 | C2H5OH | I'm crazy about the XMMS skin that appears in the E17 screenshots at elive site |
| 01:32.14 | C2H5OH | particulary numbre 4 and 7 |
| 01:32.16 | C2H5OH | number* |
| 01:32.19 | wizard123 | link? |
| 01:32.22 | C2H5OH | ok |
| 01:32.30 | C2H5OH | http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/E17/_previews/007.jpg.html |
| 01:32.40 | C2H5OH | and |
| 01:32.43 | C2H5OH | http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/E17/_previews/004.jpg.html |
| 01:33.03 | C2H5OH | and, of course, tomorrow I'm going to try elive |
| 01:33.13 | C2H5OH | I'm installing qemu for the task |
| 01:33.31 | wizard123 | almond_alu_rounded |
| 01:33.39 | wizard123 | almond_darkblue_rounded |
| 01:33.49 | C2H5OH | wow, MANY THANKS :-) |
| 01:34.13 | wizard123 | your welcome |
| 01:34.26 | C2H5OH | well, any hint in how to find it? |
| 01:34.33 | C2H5OH | or it comes with elive? |
| 01:34.38 | LinuxNIT | comes with elive |
| 01:34.42 | C2H5OH | ok |
| 01:34.42 | wizard123 | yeah |
| 01:34.43 | LinuxNIT | howdy wizard123 |
| 01:34.46 | C2H5OH | then I'll copy it |
| 01:34.47 | LinuxNIT | hows it goin |
| 01:34.53 | wizard123 | it is default skin, afaik |
| 01:34.55 | wizard123 | hi LinuxNIT |
| 01:34.57 | wizard123 | good :) |
| 01:35.11 | wizard123 | today i was on some kind of japanese party :P |
| 01:35.13 | C2H5OH | let's see if I still remember on how to do a loopback mount ^_^ |
| 01:35.24 | LinuxNIT | --o loop |
| 01:35.28 | LinuxNIT | -o loop |
| 01:35.39 | wizard123 | under linooks, yes |
| 01:35.46 | LinuxNIT | true :) |
| 01:35.53 | LinuxNIT | but who dosnet use linux? |
| 01:36.00 | C2H5OH | that's right |
| 01:36.02 | C2H5OH | who doesn't |
| 01:36.08 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 01:36.08 | C2H5OH | only those BSD freaks |
| 01:36.10 | C2H5OH | LO |
| 01:36.14 | C2H5OH | lol ;-) |
| 01:36.19 | wizard123 | hey! |
| 01:36.26 | C2H5OH | no ofence, I was kidding |
| 01:36.26 | LinuxNIT | LMFAO |
| 01:36.34 | LinuxNIT | wizard123, is one of those freaks |
| 01:36.44 | LinuxNIT | and hes kinda touchy about it :D |
| 01:36.45 | C2H5OH | heh |
| 01:36.51 | wizard123 | ]:-< |
| 01:37.13 | C2H5OH | well, admit that in FreeBSD is a bit trickier to do a looback mount |
| 01:37.30 | C2H5OH | if I remember correctly, it had something to do with UnionFS |
| 01:37.33 | C2H5OH | or something like that |
| 01:37.44 | wizard123 | no, with md |
| 01:37.55 | wizard123 | mconfig -f file iirc ;) |
| 01:38.15 | wizard123 | ah, and -a, to add the device |
| 01:38.25 | wizard123 | but it is described in man |
| 01:38.57 | C2H5OH | well, I left over FreeBSD at 4.8 I think |
| 01:39.00 | C2H5OH | :-S |
| 01:39.20 | wizard123 | :] |
| 01:39.23 | wizard123 | old times |
| 01:39.25 | C2H5OH | yep |
| 01:39.34 | wizard123 | now i'm waiting for 6.2 |
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| 01:39.52 | C2H5OH | and I'm not brave enough to go with NetBSD or OpenBSD |
| 01:39.59 | C2H5OH | well, I installed OpenBSD once |
| 01:40.04 | Elive_user74 | hi |
| 01:40.05 | C2H5OH | but it lasted less than a day |
| 01:40.09 | wizard123 | but very slow |
| 01:40.10 | LinuxNIT | hello Elive_user74 |
| 01:40.10 | C2H5OH | it scared me :-S |
| 01:40.13 | Elive_user74 | i tried to mount my win partiotion |
| 01:40.15 | wizard123 | hi Elive_user74 |
| 01:40.20 | wizard123 | xD |
| 01:40.24 | Elive_user74 | can u tell me whats wrong at this line |
| 01:40.37 | Elive_user74 | hmm i cant past |
| 01:40.38 | wizard123 | C2H5OH: i would like to have problems like Elive_user74 |
| 01:40.43 | wizard123 | :D |
| 01:40.45 | Elive_user74 | ;) |
| 01:40.46 | C2H5OH | LOOOOL |
| 01:40.54 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user74, highlight the text then middle click to paste |
| 01:41.02 | LinuxNIT | wizard123, lol |
| 01:41.17 | wizard123 | my router is freezing sometimes.. and i don't know why.. there is only one big hole in logs// |
| 01:41.26 | C2H5OH | I didn't know that Hasefroch still produces "software" |
| 01:41.34 | LinuxNIT | wizard123, have you tried resetting it? |
| 01:41.55 | wizard123 | resetting? you mean reboot? |
| 01:42.00 | wizard123 | i had to do it once |
| 01:42.21 | wizard123 | and two times it reset by itself |
| 01:42.22 | wizard123 | :| |
| 01:42.23 | C2H5OH | Elive_user74: have you tried turning it off and on again? |
| 01:42.35 | C2H5OH | I should have quoted that |
| 01:42.36 | LinuxNIT | well on my router it has a reset button that will erase all configs and return it to the state it was when you bought it |
| 01:42.48 | C2H5OH | ("Hello IT") |
| 01:42.52 | wizard123 | C2H5OH: quot what? |
| 01:43.21 | wizard123 | LinuxNIT: my router is a pc running freebsd 6.1 |
| 01:43.25 | Elive_user74 | sry ok, here i go /dev/hdb4 /mnt/xchange vfatdefaults,auto,user,umask=ooo,utf8 0 2 |
| 01:43.25 | Elive_user74 | /dev/hdb2 /mnt/daten ntfs defaults,auto,user,umask=000 0 2 |
| 01:43.25 | C2H5OH | "have you tried turning it off and on again?" |
| 01:43.31 | LinuxNIT | wizard123, oh |
| 01:43.52 | Elive_user74 | yes |
| 01:44.07 | LinuxNIT | whats the error msg |
| 01:44.10 | Elive_user74 | LinuxNIT: i can c that partion but i have no acces |
| 01:44.20 | LinuxNIT | is it mounted? |
| 01:44.28 | wizard123 | umask 000 not ooo |
| 01:44.40 | wizard123 | 0 like zero, null, nil, nothing |
| 01:44.47 | wizard123 | o jak oh my god |
| 01:44.55 | Elive_user74 | that lines r in my fstab |
| 01:45.05 | hilltop_ | wizard123, oh I see here where I can switch window manager from icewm also, my bad. Done watching "The Code Linux" now so I can boot from KNOPPIX to elive :) |
| 01:45.07 | Elive_user74 | o i c |
| 01:45.14 | Elive_user74 | great thanks |
| 01:45.18 | Elive_user74 | ;) |
| 01:45.22 | wizard123 | :] |
| 01:45.27 | wizard123 | i think it should help |
| 01:45.54 | C2H5OH | shit, what filesystem is Squashfs? |
| 01:45.55 | wizard123 | hmm.. i just found whole slackware 11 mirror in my home dir :| |
| 01:46.56 | hilltop_ | C2H5OH, http://squashfs.sourceforge.net/ |
| 01:47.20 | wizard123 | most of linux livecds are using that |
| 01:48.56 | C2H5OH | hilltop_: thanks, I was on it |
| 01:49.07 | C2H5OH | well, no time to thank giving |
| 01:49.09 | C2H5OH | :-/ |
| 01:49.29 | C2H5OH | wizard123: the funny thing is that doesn't seem to come with the vanilla kernel |
| 01:49.44 | wizard123 | i know |
| 01:50.03 | wizard123 | tommorow i'll set up slackware 11 on my notebook |
| 01:50.10 | C2H5OH | brave |
| 01:50.24 | wizard123 | heh.. i had to utilize that packages i've just found |
| 01:50.35 | C2H5OH | I always wondered why Slackware is sticking to the 2.4 kernels |
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| 01:51.12 | wizard123 | me to, but who cares.. i always use my own kernel |
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| 01:52.17 | C2H5OH | yeah, mee too |
| 01:52.36 | wizard123 | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20061018&mode=classic |
| 01:52.38 | wizard123 | lol |
| 01:52.46 | C2H5OH | I would still be in ubuntu or kubuntu if it wasn't because there was no way to compile a vanilla kernel and make it work |
| 01:52.58 | wizard123 | huh |
| 01:53.01 | GPLGeek | the compressed file systems out there are very innovative but not one has become all I had dreamed them to be |
| 01:53.03 | wizard123 | how can it be possible? |
| 01:53.47 | GPLGeek | C2H5OH, debian etch / elive ftw |
| 01:54.08 | wizard123 | we will die for the daemons! |
| 01:54.32 | C2H5OH | GPLGeek: what do you mean debian etch / elive ftw? |
| 01:54.48 | GPLGeek | well... debian etch is elive's base |
| 01:54.51 | GPLGeek | its a very good linux. |
| 01:55.03 | C2H5OH | that's what I've read |
| 01:55.12 | GPLGeek | elive is just etch with some extra repositories and E software on top of it, with thana's innovations that make it easier for the users |
| 01:55.16 | C2H5OH | I'm in sid right now |
| 01:55.30 | C2H5OH | heh |
| 01:55.53 | C2H5OH | by the way, is there any E17 official release on the horizon? |
| 01:56.36 | GPLGeek | C2H5OH, they dont try to guess release dates because they want it to be done when its done.... no rush to release |
| 01:56.39 | wizard123 | sun will sink many times before that glorous day.. |
| 01:56.45 | GPLGeek | every dated release cycle ends up with flaws |
| 01:56.55 | C2H5OH | that's also right |
| 01:57.22 | C2H5OH | one of these days I want to take a look at the EFL API |
| 01:57.42 | wizard123 | me too |
| 01:57.46 | wizard123 | looks promising |
| 01:58.08 | C2H5OH | but is EFL intended as a general purpose widget api like GTK+? |
| 01:58.19 | GPLGeek | Rumors are that slackware is going to make a amd64 fork |
| 01:58.22 | C2H5OH | (I know, I should read) |
| 01:58.54 | wizard123 | GPLGeek: it aleready exists: it is called slamd64 |
| 01:59.05 | wizard123 | (or patric bought amd64 xD ) |
| 01:59.10 | GPLGeek | ya thats one of them |
| 01:59.24 | wizard123 | i used slamd, very good distro |
| 01:59.26 | GPLGeek | but i dont think its officially supported and have a book |
| 01:59.43 | wizard123 | most of x86 docs 'works' for amd64 |
| 02:00.32 | GPLGeek | slamd is cool, maybe slack should absorb them |
| 02:00.35 | GPLGeek | and make it official |
| 02:00.58 | wizard123 | pffft |
| 02:01.15 | wizard123 | impossible |
| 02:01.32 | wizard123 | man, alpha was in the market for years.. |
| 02:01.51 | wizard123 | even microsoft released win nt4 for alpha |
| 02:02.12 | GPLGeek | hmm.... just a thought |
| 02:02.17 | wizard123 | (dec alpha, dec nt4, nothing strange, they haven't many problems) |
| 02:02.31 | GPLGeek | wonder how many 64bit installs offer a 32bit chroot by default |
| 02:02.37 | wizard123 | of course there's no offcial slackware for alpha |
| 02:02.48 | wizard123 | and ppc? slackintosh, of course.. but not official |
| 02:03.18 | GPLGeek | Alpha isnt a big deal |
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| 02:03.46 | wizard123 | but ppc was.. half year ago xD |
| 02:03.57 | GPLGeek | PPC currently has the BEST cpus but they are not exactly in the direct market |
| 02:04.13 | wizard123 | yeah.. |
| 02:04.19 | wizard123 | i would like to buy pcc |
| 02:04.21 | wizard123 | ppc* |
| 02:04.23 | GPLGeek | IE PS3, but it's system only lets you use one core |
| 02:04.38 | GPLGeek | which is why im not buying a PS3, I wanted linux on half the drive |
| 02:04.51 | wizard123 | ps3 uses cell.. it is not ppc.. |
| 02:05.11 | GPLGeek | I would like that 8-core ppc with a video bridge to a quadro |
| 02:05.22 | GPLGeek | wizard123, you can install ppc linux right onto it. |
| 02:05.37 | wizard123 | with some patches :) |
| 02:05.40 | GPLGeek | ppc packages work |
| 02:05.43 | wizard123 | yay |
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| 02:08.15 | wizard123 | ok, 3am, i'm going to sleep |
| 02:08.20 | wizard123 | bye elivers |
| 02:08.26 | C2H5OH | bye wizard123 |
| 02:08.27 | LinuxNIT | bye wizard123 |
| 02:09.15 | hilltop_ | back in elive, wizard123 |
| 02:09.20 | C2H5OH | GPLGeek: cell is not an 8-core processor |
| 02:09.40 | hilltop_ | this is really nice, after looking around a little :) |
| 02:10.08 | GPLGeek | 8 cell then |
| 02:10.37 | C2H5OH | yeah, and those cell are really tricky to program |
| 02:10.48 | C2H5OH | last year I had access to one of them |
| 02:11.01 | C2H5OH | we had to do some benchmarking on them |
| 02:11.07 | hilltop_ | I decided to try the open source nVidia driver. Anyone ever see any difference? |
| 02:11.09 | C2H5OH | man, they are impossible to program |
| 02:11.10 | GPLGeek | it can run 8 id's at once at awesome speeds |
| 02:11.57 | C2H5OH | 8 pure vectorial ALUs which need to overlayed by hand |
| 02:12.02 | C2H5OH | by "hand" |
| 02:12.05 | C2H5OH | you get the idea |
| 02:12.11 | C2H5OH | DMA, and all the stuff |
| 02:12.36 | C2H5OH | even the compilation is wired |
| 02:12.43 | C2H5OH | need two different compilers |
| 02:13.24 | C2H5OH | of course the department I was collaborating at lacked a lot of information from IBM |
| 02:13.53 | C2H5OH | and they (IBM) still wanted us to get numerical results |
| 02:14.28 | C2H5OH | anyway, I believe all this has changed a lot since then |
| 02:14.47 | GPLGeek | there is a cpu called the "AIDS" cpu. they ditched the name. I wonder why. It was for embedded artaficial intel robots in japan =p |
| 02:16.02 | C2H5OH | lol |
| 02:16.04 | GPLGeek | "ai does synapsis" system |
| 02:18.26 | GPLGeek | so they are really starting to prepare for "4.0" 's release |
| 02:18.30 | GPLGeek | etch |
| 02:18.43 | GPLGeek | I've not had one problem with it. |
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| 02:23.14 | C2H5OH | ? |
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| 02:30.11 | Elive_user8 | Is there an equivalent of fdisk /mbr my xp is still at hda4 but now unbootable |
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| 02:42.55 | eJcal | greets all |
| 02:43.46 | LinuxNIT | hello |
| 02:44.12 | eJcal | I installed gimp 2.3 lastnight! |
| 02:44.23 | LinuxNIT | how is it? |
| 02:44.28 | eJcal | love the new features. |
| 02:45.00 | eJcal | I had to get the packages from debian website. |
| 02:45.27 | LinuxNIT | why? |
| 02:45.30 | LinuxNIT | are they in sid? |
| 02:46.16 | eJcal | yes |
| 02:46.21 | eJcal | most anyway. |
| 02:46.21 | LinuxNIT | i see |
| 02:50.19 | eJcal | gimp-data and others were in testing... is that sid? I forget |
| 02:54.12 | eJcal | do you use gimp? |
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| 02:56.05 | LinuxNIT | eJcal, sorry... if nobody else answered you yet.... sid is unstable etch is testing |
| 02:56.42 | eJcal | no problem... Bet everyone is busy. |
| 02:56.58 | LinuxNIT | could be |
| 02:57.17 | eJcal | do you use gimp? |
| 02:57.32 | LinuxNIT | sometimes... not often |
| 02:58.27 | eJcal | one of the neat new features is when you are selecting w/rectangle tool it lets you move the selection area and resize it by dragging its borders. |
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| 02:58.59 | felix | wow |
| 02:59.11 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 02:59.20 | felix | eJcal, that wasn't in previous versions?... my god |
| 03:00.49 | eJcal | not that I'm aware of. I work with this guy who uses mac/adobe stuff and he swares that gimp is some sort of pirated version... heheh he doesn't understand the concept of opensource |
| 03:01.49 | eJcal | he assumes that because I use free stuff that I'm a pirate. arrrr |
| 03:01.57 | felix | jajaja |
| 03:02.20 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:03.29 | eJcal | so is there a way that I can take all the debs I had to get and build a package for other's to install? |
| 03:04.03 | felix | hurm |
| 03:04.15 | felix | eJcal, what do you mean? |
| 03:04.32 | felix | eJcal, do you want to set up a repository? |
| 03:04.33 | LinuxNIT | felix, he had to get some of the debs from the sid repo to install gimp 2.3 |
| 03:05.29 | eJcal | when i man'd dpkg it said something about using it to build packages too. perhaps there is a good read out there about it. |
| 03:06.15 | eJcal | arrrr perhaps I should have read the man, the whole man and nuthing but the man. |
| 03:06.34 | felix | hahaha |
| 03:07.39 | eJcal | are you programmers? |
| 03:08.00 | LinuxNIT | kinda |
| 03:08.22 | eJcal | what language(s) do you use? |
| 03:08.32 | LinuxNIT | python |
| 03:08.35 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 03:08.44 | LinuxNIT | nothing spectacular |
| 03:08.44 | felix | C, C++, Perl |
| 03:08.45 | felix | >S |
| 03:08.46 | felix | :S |
| 03:09.11 | eJcal | I've never used python is it pretty quick to pick up? |
| 03:09.25 | LinuxNIT | there is a ton of documentation |
| 03:09.30 | LinuxNIT | on the web |
| 03:09.44 | LinuxNIT | as for is it quick... i cant compare to anything else cause its all ive used |
| 03:09.54 | LinuxNIT | seems pretty intuitive though |
| 03:10.18 | felix | LinuxNIT, ther is a ton of documentation for perl too... but Perl is not easy to pick up |
| 03:10.32 | felix | I want to start with Java |
| 03:10.38 | eJcal | I took a couple of semesters of C and I activly use php and javascript everyday. |
| 03:10.57 | felix | eJcal, then I assume you're a web programmer |
| 03:11.37 | eJcal | yes felix, I am. Sometimes I get gui envy though. |
| 03:11.53 | eJcal | which is why I do alot with javascript |
| 03:13.31 | eJcal | when I boot my elive and see all the nice apps I get envious. |
| 03:14.00 | eJcal | makes me feel lessor in a way. but that was the lot I chose. |
| 03:15.01 | LinuxNIT | well just make beautiful websites and others will be envious ;) |
| 03:15.04 | eJcal | I went to school and learned COBOL, C, Java, CICS, and a few databases but I was pretty well in awe of the internet at the time. |
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| 03:15.52 | eJcal | LinuxNIT, i'm a programmer not too much of a grphics guy so I just make websites that do things. |
| 03:16.21 | LinuxNIT | oh so youre the backbone ;) |
| 03:16.31 | LinuxNIT | with out you the guis arent worth much |
| 03:16.40 | eJcal | the bone head sometimes! |
| 03:16.44 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 03:18.21 | eJcal | there's a lot of apps out there that do most of what people want on the web. |
| 03:18.31 | eJcal | thanks to google! they really are pushing the envelope of web applications. |
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| 03:38.21 | GPLGeek | eJcal, python is leet |
| 03:38.34 | GPLGeek | you dont need to know much to learn it if you have done any other programming |
| 03:38.56 | GPLGeek | http://docs.python.org/tut/ |
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| 03:39.00 | eJcal | I know it's really gaining in popularity |
| 03:39.27 | GPLGeek | eJcal, and btw, I'm a pirate too |
| 03:39.44 | eJcal | ahoy |
| 03:39.46 | GPLGeek | I've been assaulted violently for programming free software |
| 03:40.22 | GPLGeek | Arrr ye swab, python be fast and secure |
| 03:40.27 | eJcal | what kind of apps do you do in python? |
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| 03:41.25 | GPLGeek | a while ago I had to code a bunch of code in c++ libraries, python, ruby, bash, etc |
| 03:41.44 | GPLGeek | one of the projects was a mini-browser |
| 03:41.59 | GPLGeek | for gaming ports |
| 03:42.34 | GPLGeek | windows games would use a browser (IE ActiveX) for dynamic content and the linux ports needed a browser |
| 03:42.58 | GPLGeek | so we made everything wc3 standard with xhtml |
| 03:43.00 | eJcal | so, you coded the same libraries in 5 different languages? |
| 03:43.26 | GPLGeek | I'd say I know the basics of programming, but I use up to 23 languages from time to time. I'm not a professional programmer |
| 03:43.38 | GPLGeek | ya basicly |
| 03:44.01 | eJcal | you should be a professional. did you get paid? |
| 03:44.15 | GPLGeek | I've also written code to parse data |
| 03:44.37 | GPLGeek | Actually one project I was on they bought me a brand new Pentium4 HT 3.2ghz system |
| 03:44.48 | GPLGeek | AKA "Space Heater" |
| 03:44.53 | eJcal | very nice.... lol |
| 03:45.03 | GPLGeek | its my winter pc |
| 03:45.06 | eJcal | keeps the feet workm |
| 03:45.12 | eJcal | uhh worm. |
| 03:45.22 | GPLGeek | spelling isnt an issue, just syntax dont worry |
| 03:45.40 | eJcal | so you like python above the others? |
| 03:46.04 | GPLGeek | eJcal, python is much like c++ or perl, slight syntax stuff... easy to deploy and test though |
| 03:46.08 | GPLGeek | wel... |
| 03:46.31 | GPLGeek | I use bash most. It might not be the best but it drives most things I do in my system |
| 03:46.50 | GPLGeek | I'll use python if I have to do web programming |
| 03:47.12 | GPLGeek | you can "compile" python files too but I'd rather interpret them |
| 03:48.09 | GPLGeek | you could easily learn c++ and python side by side but python might be a bit easier. |
| 03:49.11 | eJcal | Well, I probably need to expand my horizons a bit. |
| 03:49.36 | eJcal | I like php and javascript... guess cause they are familiar. |
| 03:50.10 | GPLGeek | http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page talke a look at this |
| 03:50.17 | eJcal | ok. |
| 03:51.14 | eJcal | interesting... I'd like to tell my boss I've got mono. |
| 03:51.33 | eJcal | he's very big on open technologies. |
| 03:52.19 | eJcal | omg... my elive just launged a game. |
| 03:52.35 | eJcal | launched... that is. |
| 03:53.09 | eJcal | just out of the blue... |
| 03:53.17 | GPLGeek | nice |
| 03:53.29 | GPLGeek | my elive reads my mind too |
| 03:53.35 | GPLGeek | and just does things I want done |
| 03:53.40 | eJcal | uhh yah if I was wanting to play a game. |
| 03:53.48 | GPLGeek | its all in the AI_Psychic UserScripts |
| 03:53.54 | eJcal | lol |
| 03:54.21 | GPLGeek | eJcal, ya i should get paid for my skills but the problem is... |
| 03:54.28 | GPLGeek | im a jack of all trades but no specialization |
| 03:54.28 | eJcal | I had better leave it on when I leave the house... then I can multitask |
| 03:55.01 | GPLGeek | i am in the process of learning the ins and outs of a few systems and I will become a specialist in some programming language be it c++ or python |
| 03:55.02 | eJcal | Then you'd make a fine CTO! |
| 03:55.05 | GPLGeek | or maybe both |
| 03:55.28 | GPLGeek | I've been paid shortly to be a Project Manager, Developer |
| 03:56.37 | GPLGeek | I got over 10,000 lines of code down to just a few functions by creating libraries of functions from existing code. Then it was a big copy-paste-profile game |
| 03:57.10 | GPLGeek | and then having one main "driver.cpp" and a few headers named based on function and type |
| 03:57.44 | GPLGeek | after that I was offered a job in Utah but did not want to move from California. What a noob I was to turn down 18$ an hour. |
| 03:58.01 | eJcal | dude wanna move to KS? we're gonna be looking for another programmer. |
| 03:58.27 | eJcal | I work for the State Wildlife and Parks Department. |
| 03:58.35 | GPLGeek | I've always been fond of tornados but I'll miss the earthquakes |
| 03:58.40 | eJcal | lol |
| 03:58.54 | GPLGeek | what exactly do you code? |
| 03:59.31 | GPLGeek | I'm guessing databases and algorithms to sort and store wildlife information and increase field-communication and field-time by simplifying data entry |
| 03:59.34 | eJcal | Currentyl We're porting our Cost Information System to an internal web app. It's a full rewrite. |
| 03:59.57 | eJcal | I'm also building them a data warehouse on mysql. |
| 04:00.00 | GPLGeek | close enough |
| 04:00.14 | GPLGeek | I like mysql |
| 04:00.24 | GPLGeek | it seemed to work faster than my postgre system |
| 04:00.28 | GPLGeek | but maybe that was my fault |
| 04:01.27 | eJcal | yah I wrote an app to track Chronic Wasting Disease, and there is the whole piece of crap online licensing/boat registration and park permit system that needs to be rewritten. |
| 04:01.47 | GPLGeek | sweet |
| 04:01.58 | GPLGeek | job security |
| 04:02.04 | eJcal | you bet. |
| 04:02.10 | GPLGeek | at least your never staring at a wall with nothing to do. |
| 04:02.15 | eJcal | and it pays good with benefits. |
| 04:02.26 | GPLGeek | my buddy got a programming job where they give him one function a week and he does it the first day |
| 04:02.42 | GPLGeek | I was looking for a state job |
| 04:02.44 | eJcal | I get to wear jeans/tennis shoes |
| 04:02.48 | GPLGeek | but I dont think I'm qualified |
| 04:03.04 | eJcal | Heck, I'm a college drop out :) |
| 04:03.19 | GPLGeek | I'm qualified |
| 04:03.34 | GPLGeek | I've got 2 or 3 classes to go for my 2yr |
| 04:03.38 | eJcal | my open minded open source boss probably would agree |
| 04:03.54 | GPLGeek | my college screwed me, in fact some people are going to jail over it, so im a bit put off from college for now |
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| 04:04.20 | eJcal | expierence speaks volumes. and the proof is in the jello |
| 04:04.41 | eJcal | or was it pudding... wasn't paying attention then. |
| 04:04.43 | GPLGeek | I'd just have to cram for Data Storage and Algorithms, and tell him I'm flexable to learn or use any language he can throw at me |
| 04:05.10 | GPLGeek | at least I have ROP certifications, jobs really like that |
| 04:05.26 | GPLGeek | because its a STATE certification and requires a full year of time |
| 04:05.35 | GPLGeek | on the field and testing |
| 04:06.13 | GPLGeek | where about in KS is your office? |
| 04:06.18 | eJcal | Pratt |
| 04:06.24 | GPLGeek | nice location |
| 04:06.42 | eJcal | I live in Medicine Lodge 30 miles south of it. |
| 04:06.54 | eJcal | easy commute. very scenic |
| 04:07.06 | GPLGeek | like one second from an airport |
| 04:07.18 | eJcal | the best part about that |
| 04:08.44 | eJcal | the best part about my place of employeement is people are laid back. They go fly fishing on their lunch break and I work with one of the best wildlife photographers in the nation. |
| 04:10.59 | eJcal | the new position will be for someone assist in the public website http://kdwp.state.ks.us/ |
| 04:12.06 | eJcal | it's done with ezPublish. If another person walked in with a good handle on eZ they'd probably be a natural choice. |
| 04:15.22 | eJcal | It will probably start off around 20/hour + benefits. |
| 04:15.48 | eJcal | BTW THIS IS ALL OFF THE RECORD. We are still trying to get the new position approved. |
| 04:16.55 | eJcal | Actually there will be two postions if all goes well. One programmer the other.. IT support. We have about 20 servers all but a couple are linux |
| 04:17.56 | eJcal | there is one AS400... almost gone. and 3 windows servers. But the new position will be doing PC stuff. on Win XP and stuff. Yuck. |
| 04:20.50 | GPLGeek | im back |
| 04:21.03 | eJcal | welcome. |
| 04:21.22 | GPLGeek | i got paged lol this guy ... just amazing what dammage he can do |
| 04:22.04 | GPLGeek | 20? =p |
| 04:22.34 | eJcal | just under $20/hour |
| 04:22.59 | GPLGeek | I'm certified and am a specialist in windows 2000, 2000 advanced server, xp, 2003 server |
| 04:23.32 | eJcal | of course cost of living here is cheap. |
| 04:24.31 | GPLGeek | ezpublish isnt exactly a science |
| 04:24.38 | eJcal | nope. |
| 04:24.40 | GPLGeek | but if you wanted to add modules on that would take php know-how |
| 04:25.01 | GPLGeek | does the job require php specialization |
| 04:25.12 | eJcal | yep. our current ez guy has had to do alot of that. |
| 04:25.42 | eJcal | Well we are standardizing on it. All apps will be web apps. |
| 04:25.54 | GPLGeek | ive done php before , but have pretty much forgotten it |
| 04:26.00 | eJcal | I think that is the vision. |
| 04:26.52 | eJcal | you know things look like printf() print echo if(){}else if{} etc... |
| 04:27.16 | eJcal | oh and of course <?php ?> |
| 04:28.21 | eJcal | but there are other technolgies at play too.. Like I dont do eZ publish much. I do php and javascript JSON and XML with data stored in mysql |
| 04:28.44 | GPLGeek | ez is nice because you can have it easily pop up other options for groups or specific people on login |
| 04:29.34 | GPLGeek | in php I made a link to a sql databse, and created a form to store and get / sort data |
| 04:29.37 | eJcal | it has its advantages. The boss is hoping to move to the components later. |
| 04:29.39 | GPLGeek | thats as advanced as I have used php |
| 04:29.52 | eJcal | thats about all we do. |
| 04:30.27 | eJcal | oh maybe a file write/read here and there... but there will be the use of pdf libraries in the future. |
| 04:30.46 | GPLGeek | for that you could just use the php->mysql referance for non php programmers, it shows all the relations and how to do that stuff. |
| 04:31.09 | GPLGeek | everything else is simple abstraction |
| 04:32.22 | GPLGeek | eJcal, you guys got bigger deer than California I bet |
| 04:32.28 | eJcal | as a very good professor of mine once said... "Knowing where to get the answer is just as important as knowing the answer" |
| 04:32.32 | GPLGeek | I do a bit of hunting |
| 04:32.41 | GPLGeek | how are the gun laws there? |
| 04:32.56 | eJcal | I don't but they didnt hold it againt me. |
| 04:33.07 | GPLGeek | Jesus was like a programmer, he gave the guy the information on how to get a fish rather than the fish |
| 04:33.37 | eJcal | Yes, and he could do miracles with fish too. |
| 04:34.41 | eJcal | it's like saying I've got notepad and a linux server what more do you need? |
| 04:35.10 | eJcal | perhaps a couple of fish and some bread ehh? |
| 04:35.37 | GPLGeek | oh the gun laws are nice |
| 04:35.52 | GPLGeek | eJcal, maybe you might need nano |
| 04:35.56 | GPLGeek | and ssh |
| 04:35.56 | eJcal | Jesus would have been an opensource GPL kinda guy. |
| 04:37.12 | eJcal | My boss and I have had many conversations like that... Freely give what you have been given sort of stuff. |
| 04:38.31 | eJcal | KS is a great outdoors state. I bet CA is nice too. Wish I could go there sometime. |
| 04:41.50 | GPLGeek | 20/h is a lot of cash there isnt it |
| 04:44.48 | eJcal | it's better than most in my town anyway. |
| 04:45.09 | eJcal | my house cost 36,500 |
| 04:45.37 | GPLGeek | houses here cost 800,000$ |
| 04:45.41 | eJcal | it's a 3 bedroom brick house. with a nice yard, sun room, work shop |
| 04:46.00 | GPLGeek | and I can make 16-25$ an hour IF I can get a job |
| 04:46.02 | eJcal | Yah I freak out when I wath house hunters with my wife. |
| 04:46.07 | GPLGeek | its really hard to get a tech job in CA |
| 04:46.14 | GPLGeek | so many people here its hard to compete |
| 04:46.24 | GPLGeek | EVERYWHERE wants 5+ years experiance |
| 04:46.34 | GPLGeek | but there are no places that can give that to you in the state |
| 04:47.00 | GPLGeek | ya you see a house, 1870's but run down to heck. 650,000 |
| 04:47.10 | GPLGeek | needs like to be torn down and rebuilt entierly |
| 04:47.27 | GPLGeek | or rip whole rooms apart and replace walls |
| 04:47.38 | eJcal | plenty of those here... but they are about 10,000 |
| 04:48.06 | GPLGeek | I think I'll keep a copy of this conversation |
| 04:48.15 | GPLGeek | I may seriously think about it |
| 04:48.23 | eJcal | heck I bought the house behind me for 2,000.00 and rented it out after puting new windows for 6000 |
| 04:48.27 | GPLGeek | how much does community college cost there? |
| 04:48.47 | eJcal | there is pratt community college. I'm not too sure. |
| 04:49.53 | eJcal | I rent one for 350 a month and the other for 425. |
| 04:50.38 | eJcal | I'll let you know when the job opens up. |
| 04:50.51 | GPLGeek | good timing |
| 04:51.03 | eJcal | God's timing .... maybe.. it was for me. |
| 04:51.03 | GPLGeek | because this is when i'm re-learning everything I know about programming lol |
| 04:52.04 | eJcal | you can see a bit about my town here http://inMedicineLodge.com |
| 04:52.28 | GPLGeek | i read a book actually, that featured pratt and surrounding area |
| 04:52.53 | GPLGeek | I forget the author but it was a thriller pretty short book |
| 04:53.18 | GPLGeek | I used to do a short-writing club thing.... I've got a lot of stories bottled up inside me. |
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| 04:55.10 | eJcal | lol |
| 04:55.19 | GPLGeek | i forgot to drink my wine today |
| 04:55.37 | eJcal | I just joined AA a few weaks ago. |
| 04:55.38 | PrinceAMD | oh... |
| 04:55.55 | PrinceAMD | i am smiling :) |
| 04:56.00 | PrinceAMD | at the monitor |
| 04:56.03 | PrinceAMD | is it that nice ? |
| 04:56.06 | eJcal | I'm a nice guy... just couldn't stop on my own this time. |
| 04:56.36 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 04:56.40 | GPLGeek | Well I guess your smart for asking for help then. Sometimes it just takes a bit of help. |
| 04:56.52 | eJcal | got a lot going for me that I didn't want to screw up. |
| 04:56.59 | PrinceAMD | 4 beer got me high |
| 04:57.09 | GPLGeek | I'm a heavy weight |
| 04:57.22 | GPLGeek | I dont drink much |
| 04:57.26 | PrinceAMD | play some pools :) |
| 04:57.30 | GPLGeek | but it takes a lot to get me drunk |
| 04:57.33 | PrinceAMD | lost very game :( |
| 04:57.58 | eJcal | not everyone needs it though. there are plenty of people who can handle it.. but when I start I dont stop till im drunk. |
| 04:58.23 | GPLGeek | eJcal, it reacts with everyone in differing ways |
| 04:58.26 | eJcal | ok... that probably needs to be on a different channel |
| 04:58.37 | eJcal | that is my little thing. |
| 04:58.48 | eJcal | have fun. |
| 04:58.59 | GPLGeek | the elive people are here for eachother, I dont think anyone minds. |
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| 05:11.59 | toothpick | If you hau.ve hdinstall and are bored can you try apt-get install democracyplayer and tell me if it works for yo |
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| 05:42.11 | eJcal | nice chatting all... |
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| 06:15.17 | mikes1 | hello al |
| 06:15.22 | mikes1 | +l |
| 06:22.41 | LinuxNIT | hello |
| 06:26.25 | plasma | hi |
| 06:27.15 | LinuxNIT | howdy |
| 06:29.34 | yawlright | yo |
| 06:30.28 | LinuxNIT | sup |
| 06:31.34 | i3d | I remember in elive, there is a script Thana made for making the edj icon file but can't remember where that is right now... |
| 06:34.20 | LinuxNIT | try looking for an app that starts with eap.... |
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| 06:35.22 | i3d | not seeing any |
| 06:36.04 | i3d | that script is quite handy cause I just have to specify a 48x48 icon and executable and then it will make the edj file |
| 06:36.34 | LinuxNIT | i3d: do you just need to make an eap? |
| 06:36.42 | i3d | ya |
| 06:36.49 | LinuxNIT | apt: make-eap |
| 06:36.58 | apt | methinks make-eap is http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html |
| 06:39.36 | i3d | ok well that's cool, but Im under CLI so I can't launch the program. I got to create it via command or script |
| 06:40.03 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 06:40.18 | i3d | have you tried e17genmenu? |
| 06:40.28 | LinuxNIT | long time ago |
| 06:41.02 | i3d | that one wasn't too bad but I always got glibc segfault at the end for some reason.. a little crapy |
| 06:41.56 | i3d | the new enlightenment will be cool since it can utilize the .desktop file for the icons.. |
| 06:42.16 | LinuxNIT | thats what i use :) |
| 06:42.17 | i3d | which would be much easier |
| 06:42.22 | i3d | haha.. ok |
| 06:42.29 | LinuxNIT | its in the elive tests repo |
| 06:42.39 | i3d | how does the upgrade goes |
| 06:43.13 | i3d | I remember it dropped off engage and evidence right? |
| 06:44.13 | LinuxNIT | yeah the engage module disappears |
| 06:44.20 | LinuxNIT | not sure about evidence |
| 06:45.55 | LinuxNIT | hm i have it installed... not sure if it runs |
| 06:46.03 | GPLGeek | in ibar .desktops wont work |
| 06:46.20 | GPLGeek | only edj |
| 06:46.23 | i3d | hmm.. ok |
| 06:46.30 | GPLGeek | at least for me |
| 06:46.45 | i3d | so ibar is the new engage? |
| 06:48.03 | GPLGeek | hey pixar just bought 200 linux-machines |
| 06:48.14 | GPLGeek | linux is getting into anemation/video development then |
| 06:48.22 | GPLGeek | pixar/disney that is |
| 06:48.35 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek: on the new e17? |
| 06:48.43 | LinuxNIT | in the tests repo |
| 06:48.50 | GPLGeek | LinuxNIT, maybe i should add a repo and update it |
| 06:49.01 | GPLGeek | and test again |
| 06:49.02 | LinuxNIT | mine runs on only .desktop... no trouble |
| 06:49.11 | LinuxNIT | i deleted the eaps |
| 06:49.35 | GPLGeek | so what directory do you put your .desktops in |
| 06:49.47 | GPLGeek | same as eaps? |
| 06:50.11 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 06:50.13 | i3d | pixar, another steve jobs's baby |
| 06:50.15 | LinuxNIT | wel no |
| 06:50.19 | GPLGeek | for some reason I was segfaulting in a few bars and menus |
| 06:50.50 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek: in the applications section of the e17 menu tell it to regenerate the menus.... it creates sym links to the .desktops in /usr/share/applicatoins |
| 06:50.51 | GPLGeek | lol disney takes over and gives them linux |
| 06:50.53 | GPLGeek | thats funny |
| 06:51.16 | GPLGeek | ok that makes sense LinuxNIT |
| 06:51.20 | GPLGeek | i dont know what i did wrong then |
| 06:51.56 | GPLGeek | and E guy told me they will have default right click integration soon in most apps and core to make shortcuts of thigns |
| 06:52.11 | GPLGeek | he said you could hit a hotkey and click a firefox link to make a .desktop by type |
| 06:52.16 | GPLGeek | i cant wait |
| 06:52.31 | i3d | that sounds cool |
| 06:53.28 | GPLGeek | it solves 99% of the user problems |
| 06:53.35 | GPLGeek | also there needs to be more icons for download |
| 06:53.50 | GPLGeek | or more default icons becuase people are lazy |
| 06:54.20 | LinuxNIT | you can use gnome/kde icon themes |
| 06:54.28 | LinuxNIT | some anyway |
| 06:55.51 | GPLGeek | any that have a png |
| 06:57.04 | GPLGeek | lol i read a artical "why mac is better than linux and windows" |
| 06:57.07 | GPLGeek | it was funny |
| 06:57.32 | GPLGeek | they said its higher priced so the execs think its better, its simple so the idiots think its better, its hardware is fixed so nobody can break it. |
| 06:57.47 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:58.52 | GPLGeek | they said "all linux needs to do is come pre-installed on pcs, ditch the password login and the need for a terminal, and raise its price from 0$ to about 1200$ and you will have a product that sells like hotcakes" |
| 06:58.53 | GPLGeek | and its true |
| 06:59.05 | GPLGeek | companies who have gone corporate like mandriva are making a TON OF MONEY |
| 06:59.58 | LinuxNIT | people are stupid that way.... if its free it cant be good |
| 07:01.17 | GPLGeek | make it LOOK like people are stealing it, but sell it for 150$ |
| 07:02.03 | GPLGeek | make fake ads, "people are stealing linux at a amazing rate and bypassing security to install it on their home pc" and people will start buying it |
| 07:03.44 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 07:04.00 | GPLGeek | just like musif |
| 07:04.04 | GPLGeek | music even |
| 07:04.20 | GPLGeek | they get riaa headlines just so people remember to go pick up that cd they were listening to on the radio |
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| 07:06.53 | GPLGeek | this dilbert daily is priceless |
| 07:07.01 | GPLGeek | got one on my desk |
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| 07:17.26 | PrinceAMD | that movie was just sick |
| 07:17.33 | PrinceAMD | i recommend everyone to not watch it |
| 07:19.54 | GPLGeek | what movie |
| 07:20.32 | GPLGeek | I generally dont like movies so I dont think i'm going to see it |
| 07:20.36 | GPLGeek | whatever it is |
| 07:20.41 | PrinceAMD | Cradle of Fear by Cradle Of Filth, death metal band |
| 07:20.48 | GPLGeek | oh they are good |
| 07:21.08 | PrinceAMD | yes they are |
| 07:21.18 | PrinceAMD | but that movie, it too bloody |
| 07:23.08 | GPLGeek | link? |
| 07:23.30 | mikes1 | not 4 me |
| 07:23.36 | mikes1 | I like opera |
| 07:23.40 | mikes1 | hehe |
| 07:23.57 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, you want the movie? |
| 07:24.03 | GPLGeek | sure why not |
| 07:24.10 | GPLGeek | blood doesnt bother me |
| 07:24.12 | mikes1 | you sick puppy |
| 07:24.19 | PrinceAMD | my friend gave mt it today i didnt download it |
| 07:24.25 | GPLGeek | =p |
| 07:24.26 | GPLGeek | oh well |
| 07:24.29 | PrinceAMD | i dont mind hosting it for you :_) |
| 07:24.38 | GPLGeek | its ok dont go through the trouble |
| 07:24.56 | PrinceAMD | it's no truble, just 12kbps :) |
| 07:25.01 | mikes1 | lol |
| 07:25.12 | GPLGeek | lol, 12 days of fun |
| 07:25.19 | GPLGeek | for 2 hours of blood |
| 07:25.21 | PrinceAMD | not 12days |
| 07:25.35 | PrinceAMD | more like 12hrs |
| 07:25.48 | GPLGeek | i failed math |
| 07:26.00 | PrinceAMD | so did i |
| 07:26.03 | PrinceAMD | i'm guessing |
| 07:26.15 | GPLGeek | Since I was a kid I've been ok with blood and gore. |
| 07:26.18 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, you are NOT ALONE! |
| 07:26.24 | PrinceAMD | oh...... |
| 07:26.32 | GPLGeek | you meant that about the math i know |
| 07:27.22 | PrinceAMD | i'm watching Arch Enemy live Apocalupse :) |
| 07:27.34 | PrinceAMD | Apocalypse* |
| 07:27.52 | PrinceAMD | and banging :) |
| 07:27.59 | GPLGeek | I've been hunting since I was 12, and before that I would help rend animals into tiny family size peices. |
| 07:28.16 | GPLGeek | I've been listening to metal since I was like 6, slayer, etc |
| 07:28.28 | PrinceAMD | damn |
| 07:28.45 | PrinceAMD | you were a disturbed child |
| 07:28.49 | GPLGeek | But I like a very wide variety of music. |
| 07:28.51 | GPLGeek | no... |
| 07:28.59 | GPLGeek | well yes ... I was , but that wasnt why |
| 07:29.04 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 07:29.15 | PrinceAMD | manowar :) |
| 07:29.37 | GPLGeek | I was a very good kid, but people abused me. Never my parents though. Just teachers, most students, etc. |
| 07:29.57 | PrinceAMD | oh... y ? |
| 07:30.03 | GPLGeek | hmm.... |
| 07:30.19 | GPLGeek | it pretty much started in kindergarten, my teacher was psycho sadistic |
| 07:30.23 | GPLGeek | and hated me |
| 07:30.38 | PrinceAMD | i got band from my school computer for breaking the so called "security" |
| 07:30.48 | GPLGeek | LOL so did I |
| 07:31.02 | GPLGeek | I've done worse |
| 07:31.23 | PrinceAMD | how about crashing 15pc with in like 2min |
| 07:31.31 | PrinceAMD | i so love network :) |
| 07:31.40 | PrinceAMD | well for the wrong reasons :) |
| 07:32.08 | GPLGeek | I was accused of putting viruses on some school computers, windows 98 machines. Talk about security a cop tried to cuff me and I twisted it back and cuffed him. |
| 07:32.34 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 07:32.35 | GPLGeek | it was great the vice principal broke him off of me/him and told him that nobody was going to jail and nobody was getting cuffed in his office |
| 07:32.58 | GPLGeek | at that point ju-jitsu paid off |
| 07:33.13 | PrinceAMD | nice nice |
| 07:33.16 | GPLGeek | It was strange |
| 07:33.21 | GPLGeek | i was avery nice, passive kid |
| 07:33.21 | PrinceAMD | i know tie-che :D |
| 07:33.26 | GPLGeek | until highschool |
| 07:33.32 | GPLGeek | people would walk all over me |
| 07:33.40 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 07:34.01 | PrinceAMD | i can recall being on top of most situations in school |
| 07:34.02 | GPLGeek | then I fed a guy his shoe one day and realized that I demanded respect, and human life wasnt worth much. |
| 07:34.17 | GPLGeek | People still messed with me a lot. I was an outsider |
| 07:34.52 | PrinceAMD | same here, big time outsider |
| 07:34.59 | PrinceAMD | but i never wanted to fit in |
| 07:35.04 | PrinceAMD | i made my own rules |
| 07:35.07 | GPLGeek | Fat, computer nerd first generation, smart (smart is enemy in highschool) |
| 07:35.09 | PrinceAMD | play my own games |
| 07:35.19 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 07:35.20 | PrinceAMD | i know |
| 07:35.23 | PrinceAMD | damn i know |
| 07:35.36 | GPLGeek | one day it was too much |
| 07:35.43 | PrinceAMD | i was hated cus i got nothing less than 99% for computer exams |
| 07:35.52 | GPLGeek | somone was messing with me and decided to fight me and instead of running, or giving in |
| 07:36.19 | GPLGeek | I crippled him and was shoving his own shoe inside of his mouth and telling him to eat it |
| 07:36.25 | GPLGeek | and making damn sure all the other kids saw it |
| 07:36.39 | PrinceAMD | nice nice |
| 07:36.42 | GPLGeek | so that maybe they would think twice about messing with me |
| 07:37.12 | mikes1 | Someone did that to me i would kill even 10yrs later |
| 07:37.20 | PrinceAMD | well i never really did get my hands durty, i had friends who didnt really care about anything thing |
| 07:37.24 | GPLGeek | it was funny somone ran and got my brother and said "your brothers getting his ass kicked' and when he got there he was laughing because he said I had the guy's shoe in his mouth and he just came up and kicked the guy square in the jaw |
| 07:37.33 | mikes1 | my father is in prison as we speak' |
| 07:37.51 | GPLGeek | mikes1, every day I wonder with the amount of excessive force I have used why I'm not in prison |
| 07:37.54 | PrinceAMD | :| |
| 07:38.03 | GPLGeek | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:38.24 | PrinceAMD | 3 nights |
| 07:38.29 | PrinceAMD | 3 days |
| 07:38.37 | PrinceAMD | fucked up place to be |
| 07:38.37 | GPLGeek | prison or jail |
| 07:38.41 | GPLGeek | not the same |
| 07:38.46 | PrinceAMD | shit |
| 07:38.48 | GPLGeek | fed vs state not the same either |
| 07:38.48 | PrinceAMD | jail |
| 07:39.10 | PrinceAMD | me and mom |
| 07:39.15 | PrinceAMD | was pretty fucked up |
| 07:39.23 | GPLGeek | 1 in 10 americans are in jail |
| 07:39.25 | PrinceAMD | i've never talk about this with anyone |
| 07:39.28 | GPLGeek | it does not surprise me |
| 07:39.30 | GPLGeek | jail or prison that is |
| 07:39.31 | PrinceAMD | and i'm not going to :) |
| 07:39.33 | GPLGeek | any given day |
| 07:39.52 | GPLGeek | PrinceAMD, thats ok its public record |
| 07:39.58 | GPLGeek | i can just backtrace it |
| 07:40.01 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, yeah u cn stop talking crap |
| 07:40.11 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, ha ha |
| 07:40.11 | GPLGeek | just kidding though |
| 07:40.17 | PrinceAMD | i'm clean |
| 07:40.31 | PrinceAMD | money does alot of things where i live |
| 07:40.36 | GPLGeek | nice |
| 07:40.41 | PrinceAMD | and i think it does anywhere |
| 07:40.48 | GPLGeek | I took classes in criminal justice and law |
| 07:40.54 | PrinceAMD | but that's not an excuse to fuck up |
| 07:41.10 | GPLGeek | its crazy how the prespective changes from side to side |
| 07:41.34 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 07:41.39 | GPLGeek | one of my best friends while growing up was put in prison for murder, a murder he didnt do |
| 07:41.58 | PrinceAMD | u seem very sure |
| 07:42.27 | GPLGeek | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:42.39 | GPLGeek | im sure you heard of it |
| 07:42.44 | PrinceAMD | nah |
| 07:42.45 | PrinceAMD | didnt |
| 07:43.01 | PrinceAMD | i like that name though |
| 07:43.03 | GPLGeek | they beat and raped my buddy until he confessed, kept him up for hours in crazy conditions |
| 07:43.04 | GPLGeek | torture |
| 07:43.21 | PrinceAMD | damn |
| 07:44.44 | GPLGeek | he was convicted even though they found a homeless man wearing a bloody shirt who was in the area and was totally crazy |
| 07:44.52 | GPLGeek | they didnt even question the guy |
| 07:44.54 | GPLGeek | they let him go |
| 07:45.06 | GPLGeek | they started making connections based on friendships |
| 07:45.30 | GPLGeek | instead of the guy with blood all over him |
| 07:45.44 | GPLGeek | who returned to the scene of the crime days in a row without even cleaning up |
| 07:45.49 | GPLGeek | this is very bad detective work |
| 07:46.06 | PrinceAMD | that sounds pretty stupid, for cops/feds/cia... |
| 07:47.27 | GPLGeek | I've had cops try to frame me too |
| 07:47.36 | PrinceAMD | for what now? |
| 07:47.40 | GPLGeek | not in that case |
| 07:48.11 | PrinceAMD | do u have a site |
| 07:48.17 | GPLGeek | stealing, hacking, drug selling (have never) |
| 07:48.20 | GPLGeek | i should... |
| 07:48.40 | PrinceAMD | i dont know |
| 07:48.48 | PrinceAMD | maybe |
| 07:49.06 | PrinceAMD | ohh... that tiki -wiki site is hard, god damn hard for me to manage |
| 07:49.22 | PrinceAMD | got anything abit more SIMPLE but eyecandy |
| 07:49.33 | GPLGeek | The Interrogation of Michael Crowe 2002 movie , see it |
| 07:49.41 | PrinceAMD | no |
| 07:49.46 | GPLGeek | PrinceAMD, lol um... |
| 07:49.51 | GPLGeek | let me check |
| 07:49.54 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 07:49.55 | GPLGeek | ill get back to you tomorrow |
| 07:50.00 | GPLGeek | if you go out and find one you like |
| 07:50.03 | PrinceAMD | no problem |
| 07:50.03 | GPLGeek | you can have me install it |
| 07:50.11 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 07:50.26 | PrinceAMD | where should i look for site template? |
| 07:51.17 | PrinceAMD | ahh dont fight about it |
| 07:51.23 | GPLGeek | do you like mediawiki? |
| 07:51.26 | GPLGeek | wikipedia style |
| 07:51.38 | PrinceAMD | i've never seen it |
| 07:51.41 | PrinceAMD | got a link? |
| 07:51.59 | GPLGeek | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki |
| 07:52.04 | GPLGeek | as used on wikipedia.com |
| 07:52.55 | PrinceAMD | nah |
| 07:53.05 | PrinceAMD | got anything off the wiki |
| 07:53.50 | GPLGeek | http://www.phpbb.com/ |
| 07:53.55 | GPLGeek | if you just want a BB |
| 07:55.12 | GPLGeek | post nuke |
| 07:55.15 | PrinceAMD | looks arite |
| 07:55.18 | GPLGeek | drupal |
| 07:56.03 | PrinceAMD | once it can shot sceenshots, allow me to upload big files like 2-6mb i'm cool |
| 07:56.13 | PrinceAMD | cus the one i'm using now tiki-wiki cant |
| 07:56.41 | PrinceAMD | and the permission thing is getting on my nervs sometime it works, sometime it slumbers |
| 07:57.23 | GPLGeek | lol just ftp upload files and link them on the CMS |
| 07:57.30 | GPLGeek | i dont use any of those so |
| 07:57.35 | GPLGeek | i dont know what to tell you |
| 07:57.41 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 07:57.42 | GPLGeek | try em out and if you like one ill install it |
| 07:57.45 | PrinceAMD | very nice |
| 07:57.53 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 07:58.19 | GPLGeek | I dont have enough content that I'd need to manage it =p |
| 07:59.35 | PrinceAMD | same here |
| 07:59.44 | PrinceAMD | i just have a few files |
| 07:59.48 | PrinceAMD | for now that is :) |
| 07:59.58 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 08:00.00 | GPLGeek | lol im going to fall out of my chair |
| 08:00.08 | GPLGeek | this guy was asking me about insulation |
| 08:00.13 | PrinceAMD | linuxnit page was nice before your server went down |
| 08:00.17 | GPLGeek | and i told him to use a face mask and eye protection |
| 08:00.37 | GPLGeek | he said "how am I supposed to hold a flashlight in my mouth with a mask on?" |
| 08:00.47 | GPLGeek | PrinceAMD, it was backed up |
| 08:00.48 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 08:00.49 | GPLGeek | so.... |
| 08:00.53 | GPLGeek | it should work still |
| 08:00.57 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 08:01.05 | PrinceAMD | do u have the files still? |
| 08:01.30 | GPLGeek | i bet I do |
| 08:01.33 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 08:01.54 | PrinceAMD | cus linuxnit page right now is just apache |
| 08:02.03 | GPLGeek | want them? |
| 08:02.20 | PrinceAMD | i want the look :) |
| 08:02.40 | PrinceAMD | it was pretty cool, had mb5 sums and alot of cool features |
| 08:02.43 | PrinceAMD | he said u set it up |
| 08:03.55 | GPLGeek | I swear I was drunk when I set it up |
| 08:04.03 | PrinceAMD | god damn it |
| 08:04.13 | PrinceAMD | get drunk again |
| 08:04.57 | GPLGeek | What CMS did he have |
| 08:05.03 | PrinceAMD | maybe it was cgi |
| 08:05.18 | PrinceAMD | he still have a folder name cgi-bin |
| 08:05.23 | PrinceAMD | it's empty though |
| 08:07.25 | GPLGeek | i need to talk to that guy and figure out how to get his stuff back up |
| 08:07.37 | GPLGeek | I guess the backup didnt back up everything |
| 08:07.43 | GPLGeek | the html stuff or whatever |
| 08:07.56 | GPLGeek | he does have ftp access though |
| 08:08.03 | GPLGeek | hmm why hasnt he recreated it |
| 08:08.17 | PrinceAMD | idk |
| 08:08.29 | PrinceAMD | it was a nice layout |
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| 12:53.02 | bentejuy | hello all |
| 12:54.55 | Pacma | furby se va ac omer |
| 12:54.59 | Pacma | furby se va a comer |
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| 15:22.22 | ee_lars | hello all |
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| 16:17.41 | PrinceAMD | pinh |
| 16:17.43 | PrinceAMD | ping |
| 16:18.38 | trog | pong |
| 16:18.41 | ee_lars | hello PrinceAMD |
| 16:18.45 | ee_lars | and trog |
| 16:18.50 | trog | hi ee_lars :) |
| 16:21.05 | ee_lars | i'm trying john the ripper |
| 16:21.09 | ee_lars | ahah it's fun |
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| 16:33.01 | Elive_user74 | hi |
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| 16:39.30 | PrinceAMD | ee_lars, hey |
| 16:39.34 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user74, hi |
| 16:44.16 | trog | ee_lars: try to run it in a beowulf or openmosix cluster :) belive me, its more fun ... |
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| 16:44.53 | ee_lars | trog : ahah :) |
| 16:46.07 | trog | no really :) ...i played with openmosix a bit, having 10-15 times more cps, makes you feel good |
| 16:46.59 | ee_lars | feel good if you're not a network administrator |
| 16:48.28 | trog | especially if you are the one :) |
| 16:48.40 | ee_lars | :) |
| 16:48.43 | trog | brb |
| 16:49.09 | ee_lars | ok |
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| 17:42.34 | elmo44 | no chats yet? ;) |
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| 17:57.46 | goldstein | hello |
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| 18:02.23 | elmo44 | hi |
| 18:02.45 | PrinceAMD | hi |
| 18:02.59 | PrinceAMD | anyone know what's the changes in elive 6.1? |
| 18:03.54 | Sup3rkiddo | bufixes..yay |
| 18:03.59 | Sup3rkiddo | *bugfixes |
| 18:04.13 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 18:04.18 | PrinceAMD | new kernel? |
| 18:04.47 | Sup3rkiddo | hmm..not surew |
| 18:04.52 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 18:05.01 | PrinceAMD | i want to download it |
| 18:05.36 | PrinceAMD | but my system is working perfect, ah well i'll setup the other pc to do testing by the end of this week |
| 18:05.36 | Sup3rkiddo | what did the changelogs say |
| 18:05.45 | PrinceAMD | no change logs for |
| 18:05.46 | PrinceAMD | it |
| 18:06.16 | Sup3rkiddo | remember the murphy's law..dont fix something that aint broken |
| 18:09.30 | PrinceAMD | lol |
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| 18:36.43 | elmo44 | PrinceAMD: i already grabbed it ;) |
| 18:36.45 | elmo44 | burnt it |
| 18:36.52 | elmo44 | no need another box to install it |
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| 18:49.38 | bentejuy | hi all |
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| 19:08.12 | PrinceAMD | bentejuy, hi |
| 19:09.05 | wizard123 | hi channel \o/ |
| 19:09.49 | elmo44 | wizard123: hi |
| 19:09.53 | PrinceAMD | wizard123, hi |
| 19:10.04 | PrinceAMD | elmo44, do u know elmo40? |
| 19:10.07 | wizard123 | elmo44: youve grown by 4! |
| 19:10.33 | elmo44 | ya, i have grown by 4, but not in years O_o |
| 19:11.02 | wizard123 | than what kind of 4 ? |
| 19:11.10 | elmo44 | inches :( |
| 19:11.34 | wizard123 | o_O |
| 19:11.36 | PrinceAMD | hm... |
| 19:11.43 | wizard123 | in which dimension ? :P |
| 19:13.25 | PrinceAMD | very funny wizard123 |
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| 21:33.55 | GPLGeek | Anyone watch the news? |
| 21:34.01 | GPLGeek | right now they are a broken record |
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| 21:34.39 | GPLGeek | quote "suspected terrorist attack thwarted" |
| 21:34.40 | trog | broken ? news ? |
| 21:35.11 | trog | i have cnn & euronews handy ...nothing live here ... |
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| 21:36.10 | GPLGeek | http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/07/miami.port/index.html if you prefer cnn |
| 21:36.34 | GPLGeek | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,242265,00.html if you like fox |
| 21:37.09 | GPLGeek | basicly they found a middle-eastern driver, pulled him over, looked in the back of his truck and found 2 other middle eastern men and "suspected explosives" |
| 21:37.18 | GPLGeek | or "unknown cargo" |
| 21:37.22 | GPLGeek | depends on what news you watch |
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| 21:38.06 | trog | big brother paranoia, my wild guess ... |
| 21:38.25 | GPLGeek | well you dont try to sneak people OUT of usa |
| 21:38.31 | trog | i prefere bbc ....but i have to play with my tv, to place the stations in the right order |
| 21:38.32 | GPLGeek | so they must have been back there to DO something |
| 21:38.53 | GPLGeek | and sunday is the high people travel day at the port |
| 21:39.35 | trog | dont think they were carrying nuclear nukes ...imigrants and illegal imigrants are everywhere ...could be something, my oppinion is that this is nothing ... |
| 21:40.03 | GPLGeek | nukes? |
| 21:40.07 | GPLGeek | who said anythign about nukes! |
| 21:40.21 | GPLGeek | they are not efficient |
| 21:40.37 | trog | its a bit exagerated...but "terrorist" comes first in mind :) as far as i've read, these people didnt do anything |
| 21:41.15 | trog | anything else than entering the country, and trying to stay undetected (lying to the authorities) |
| 21:41.26 | trog | *illegaly entering |
| 21:43.34 | GPLGeek | they were already here, and legal citizens |
| 21:44.00 | GPLGeek | one of them had a warrent out for him for being suspected in a anti-terror investigation |
| 21:44.04 | GPLGeek | so |
| 21:44.16 | GPLGeek | they were legal citizens they didnt have to sneak in |
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| 21:46.41 | stamp_ | Hi |
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| 21:52.42 | trog | i see... |
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| 22:11.56 | elmo44 | LinuxNIT: what did you upgrade? |
| 22:13.04 | LinuxNIT | it tells you when its done scanning etc... |
| 22:13.37 | LinuxNIT | has some popup boxes if it fails to do certain things or find workgroups/computers/shares |
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| 22:23.17 | elmo44 | LinuxNIT: thanx :) |
| 22:23.58 | elmo44 | so, may i ask a pertinent question? why would someone use your smb-browser over linuxneighbourhood? |
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| 22:26.49 | LinuxNIT | well i tried to make it simple to use. i heard a lot of people complain about not being able to figure out how to use linneighborhood |
| 22:27.05 | LinuxNIT | personally i never liked it either. |
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| 22:29.30 | C2H5OH | hi |
| 22:29.38 | LinuxNIT | hi C2H5OH |
| 22:29.42 | C2H5OH | :-) |
| 22:29.55 | PrinceAMD | C2H5OH, hi ;) |
| 22:29.57 | C2H5OH | I'm going to ask a question in a parallel fashion |
| 22:30.03 | C2H5OH | ask google and ask here at the same time |
| 22:30.09 | C2H5OH | to see what happens 8-P |
| 22:30.24 | C2H5OH | is it possible to apt-get upgrade from Debian Sid to eLive? |
| 22:31.31 | LinuxNIT | from sid to elive? |
| 22:31.47 | C2H5OH | google said: http://wiki.elivecd.org/community/en/303 |
| 22:31.50 | LinuxNIT | i have no idea... elive is based on etch so thats not really an upgrade |
| 22:31.50 | elmo44 | ethanol? are you drunk C2H5OH? ) |
| 22:31.56 | C2H5OH | hehe, always |
| 22:32.15 | C2H5OH | LinuxNIT: right, so it might be a downgrade |
| 22:34.23 | C2H5OH | I guess they are conflicting |
| 22:34.44 | LinuxNIT | not sure if it would work. |
| 22:34.45 | elmo44 | etch is older then sid? |
| 22:34.46 | LinuxNIT | it might |
| 22:34.55 | LinuxNIT | yes etch is older |
| 22:35.17 | C2H5OH | because e17 is not in Sid |
| 22:35.34 | LinuxNIT | edevelop has a sid repo |
| 22:35.35 | C2H5OH | then I'm not sure if sourcing elive repositories would allow me to install it in Sid |
| 22:36.16 | elmo44 | so eLive is from etch? not sid? Stability reasons, eh? |
| 22:36.30 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 22:36.35 | elmo44 | k |
| 22:36.45 | elmo44 | well, it IS stable :) I like that. |
| 22:37.02 | C2H5OH | I have to try elive out of qemu |
| 22:37.14 | LinuxNIT | howcome? |
| 22:37.14 | elmo44 | u have it IN qemu right now? |
| 22:37.22 | LinuxNIT | why not boot it live |
| 22:37.30 | elmo44 | grab the latest, 0.6.1 |
| 22:39.45 | C2H5OH | I know, I know |
| 22:39.55 | C2H5OH | I wanted to try it quickly, my CD burner is external |
| 22:40.14 | C2H5OH | because in qemu some effects are pretty slow |
| 22:41.58 | LinuxNIT | kqemu runs pretty fast |
| 22:42.10 | C2H5OH | I know, but my laptop is 1,1GHz |
| 22:42.12 | LinuxNIT | the kernel module |
| 22:42.29 | LinuxNIT | mines 1.3 and it ran elive pretty well in qemu with the kqemu module |
| 22:42.34 | LinuxNIT | i was surprised |
| 22:42.47 | LinuxNIT | pretty near native speed |
| 22:42.48 | C2H5OH | then maybe I'm too impatient |
| 22:42.56 | C2H5OH | well, time to go to bed |
| 22:43.00 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 22:43.01 | C2H5OH | its 00:43 here |
| 22:43.06 | LinuxNIT | thats it? |
| 22:43.07 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 22:43.11 | C2H5OH | heh |
| 22:43.20 | C2H5OH | see you later |
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| 22:43.39 | LinuxNIT | welcome vectorman |
| 22:43.57 | vectorman | hello |
| 22:44.37 | LinuxNIT | howdy |
| 22:44.51 | vectorman | I have a problem with starting pptp |
| 22:46.20 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 22:46.22 | vectorman | error: couldn't open lock file: no such file or directory at usr/sbin/pptp-command line 793 |
| 22:46.36 | vectorman | please help |
| 22:46.47 | vectorman | what I must do |
| 22:47.00 | LinuxNIT | did you just install it? |
| 22:47.21 | vectorman | yes, and configure the tunnel |
| 22:48.11 | vectorman | configure the mppe-128 |
| 22:48.15 | vectorman | too |
| 22:51.16 | LinuxNIT | are there any other pptp programs that you might need to install.... try checking in synaptic... it appears to be missing a file/program but i have never used pptp so im not sure |
| 22:52.44 | vectorman | I can't use the synaptic - I have not internet connection with elive:( |
| 22:53.23 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 22:54.02 | vectorman | this problem appears trying to establish vpn connection |
| 22:54.30 | trog | debian system ? |
| 22:54.48 | vectorman | elive revolution r2 |
| 22:54.58 | vectorman | debian 2.6.15.7 |
| 22:55.58 | trog | can you use a text editor, to view /usr/sbin/pptp-command ? ...line 793 |
| 22:56.25 | vectorman | I will try |
| 22:56.32 | vectorman | and return |
| 22:56.35 | vectorman | here |
| 22:56.39 | trog | wait... |
| 22:56.56 | trog | or better not....paste here the result or something ... |
| 22:57.10 | vectorman | ok |
| 22:57.42 | vectorman | I return here after few minutes |
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| 23:11.37 | GPLGeek | Microsoft is getting nailed for not sticking to standards and making IE incompatable with the net |
| 23:11.51 | GPLGeek | this is ms trying to put businesses out of business or force them to switch to asp systems |
| 23:11.59 | GPLGeek | or .net systems |
| 23:13.45 | trog | indeed |
| 23:18.50 | trog | GPLGeek: still here ? |
| 23:21.27 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, hey i need you to do something, change the upload size limit for my tiki-wiki site, i think you have to go in /etc/php4or5/apache/php.ini look for upload_max_filesize = 2M change 2M to 8M |
| 23:24.16 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 23:30.17 | trog | anyone around who played with dsslive ? |
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| 23:40.41 | Toothpick | I have .5 on my desktop and democracyplayer works and .6 on my laptop and it fails. |
| 23:41.03 | Toothpick | Arent they both from the testing branch? It seems like a peculiar thing. |
| 23:47.26 | GPLGeek | PrinceAMD, oh im back reading your comment |
| 23:49.19 | GPLGeek | PrinceAMD, I dont have access to /etc/php/apache/php.ini |
| 23:49.43 | GPLGeek | but I do know that my php code has uploaded over 50mb no problem |
| 23:53.45 | Toothpick | If you are on .6 and have time to apt-get install democracyplayer and tell me if it loads for you I would appreaciate it. |
| 23:54.08 | Toothpick | Only will take a moment and apt-get remove democracy* --purge will make it go away if it doesn't or if you don't want it. |
| 23:54.26 | GPLGeek | i dont have one installed yet |
| 23:54.40 | GPLGeek | but if it works on the livecd why wouldnt it work installed |
| 23:55.03 | GPLGeek | its the same system |
| 23:55.22 | trog | .6 ? |
| 23:55.57 | GPLGeek | Rl2 , if a program works on the livecd it works installed |
| 23:55.58 | Toothpick | revolution |
| 23:56.08 | Toothpick | It isn't on the livecd |
| 23:56.13 | GPLGeek | apt-get it |
| 23:56.16 | GPLGeek | lol |
| 23:56.56 | GPLGeek | just a second ill test it for you |
| 23:56.58 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek: <Toothpick> I have .5 on my desktop and democracyplayer works and .6 on my laptop and it fails. |
| 23:56.59 | LinuxNIT | <Toothpick> Arent they both from the testing branch? It seems like a peculiar thing. |
| 23:56.59 | Toothpick | Thanks |
