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| 01:58.44 | hilltop_ | Hi guys - anyone watching this board? |
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| 02:00.41 | hilltop_ | Hi Elive_user55, what's up |
| 02:01.58 | PrinceAMD | hilltop_, yes |
| 02:02.42 | hilltop_ | PrinceAMD, I hope that is your nick. (Things are a little blury here) |
| 02:03.22 | PrinceAMD | hilltop_yes it is |
| 02:03.37 | PrinceAMD | how come things are blurry |
| 02:04.01 | hilltop_ | I thought I could use elive (liveCD) in 1280x1024 but all dirvers seem to show things in a blur, especially firefox |
| 02:04.51 | hilltop_ | so I went with nVidia - older version and can't get to 1280x1024. |
| 02:05.48 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 02:05.50 | PrinceAMD | damn |
| 02:06.00 | PrinceAMD | drop it to 1154x864 |
| 02:06.09 | PrinceAMD | dont hurt your self |
| 02:06.15 | hilltop_ | in 1280x1024, everything seems washed out - bothy in night and day themes. Lettering is light gray on white, can't read firefox etc. |
| 02:06.24 | PrinceAMD | and i wont starve my self i'm going to get something to eat |
| 02:06.37 | PrinceAMD | drop the resolution |
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| 02:07.15 | hilltop_ | The top selection is 1024x768. I have LCD monitor near new 1280x1024, three year old nVidia Geforce 4 440 card. |
| 02:08.29 | hilltop_ | PrinceAMD, have a nice meal. |
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| 02:11.41 | tonykon | hi. i installed this last version at night mode. i want to cange to the day mode ? |
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| 03:53.10 | PrinceAMD | hilltop_, it was a good meal |
| 03:58.30 | Mutacion | ash |
| 03:58.35 | Mutacion | i want some :P |
| 03:58.49 | Mutacion | can i get some? xD |
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| 04:00.04 | PrinceAMD | well |
| 04:00.08 | PrinceAMD | it's all finish |
| 04:00.10 | PrinceAMD | sorry |
| 04:00.23 | Mutacion | buuuh |
| 04:02.03 | PrinceAMD | :( |
| 04:03.12 | Mutacion | wanna some coffee? |
| 04:04.33 | PrinceAMD | nah |
| 04:04.36 | PrinceAMD | i'm ok |
| 04:06.29 | Mutacion | where are the ppl...this channel seems so lonely.... without live..without hambrita ppl xD |
| 04:07.05 | PrinceAMD | well |
| 04:07.10 | PrinceAMD | most of them are asleep |
| 04:07.21 | PrinceAMD | or just doing something important |
| 04:07.33 | PrinceAMD | or watching ports |
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| 04:16.33 | Mutacion | yeah! |
| 04:16.44 | Mutacion | now on tv a soccer game xD |
| 04:35.03 | PrinceAMD | ok |
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| 04:38.24 | Mutacion | mmm use qemu :P to emulate while u find a new burner |
| 04:43.57 | PrinceAMD | Mutacion, yea :) |
| 04:44.11 | PrinceAMD | Dreamer1234567, what do u think i migh dream tonite? |
| 04:44.45 | Dreamer1234567 | a good dream |
| 04:44.47 | Dreamer1234567 | :) |
| 04:45.00 | Mutacion | and what will i dream? |
| 04:45.04 | Mutacion | will i sleep? |
| 04:45.17 | Dreamer1234567 | i grant you a good sleep hehe |
| 04:46.14 | Mutacion | jiji xD Dreamer1234567 u should put an online bot ... so we can ask the bot |
| 04:46.28 | Dreamer1234567 | hehe |
| 04:46.32 | Dreamer1234567 | i can pretend for the moment |
| 04:49.24 | Mutacion | ese sinplomo ! |
| 04:50.01 | Dreamer1234567 | okies? |
| 04:50.20 | PrinceAMD | 12% [===> ] 88,650,016 26.34K/s ETA 6:19:11 |
| 04:50.34 | PrinceAMD | elive 0.6.1 :) |
| 04:50.50 | PrinceAMD | 6hrs |
| 04:50.52 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 04:50.56 | PrinceAMD | i'll sleep for 6hrs |
| 04:51.13 | Dreamer1234567 | ;) |
| 04:51.15 | Mutacion | i miss wget :( |
| 04:51.33 | PrinceAMD | apt-get install wget dont miss it get it :) |
| 04:51.51 | Dreamer1234567 | :) |
| 04:52.40 | Mutacion | PrinceAMD, mmm... i chaged my so... for a macox ..jij.. im in my new mbp |
| 04:53.09 | PrinceAMD | wow is that english |
| 04:53.15 | PrinceAMD | mbp? |
| 04:53.22 | PrinceAMD | macox? |
| 04:54.48 | Mutacion | mac book pro... mac os :P.. but i always say macox.... MAC OSX |
| 04:55.41 | PrinceAMD | oh |
| 04:55.46 | PrinceAMD | nice with elive? |
| 04:56.00 | PrinceAMD | if i had a mac i would make a elive ppc |
| 04:56.41 | Mutacion | i havent emulated linux.... im just waiting... cause i cant install elive in a native way(theres not an instalation for mac intel).... |
| 04:57.23 | PrinceAMD | hm |
| 04:57.46 | PrinceAMD | Mutacion, get debian for mac |
| 04:57.46 | PrinceAMD | then compile e17 |
| 04:57.47 | PrinceAMD | and u'll be really close to elive |
| 04:57.54 | Dreamer1234567 | http://www0.get-e.org/ |
| 04:58.01 | PrinceAMD | u can always ask for elive kernel |
| 04:58.32 | Mutacion | i know.. but that isnt the point.. the point is install elive..so i can help ppl resolve their problems.. resolve/report bugs.. etc.. |
| 04:59.26 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 04:59.32 | PrinceAMD | same here |
| 04:59.39 | LinuxNIT | Mutacion, mac intel inst x86? |
| 04:59.48 | LinuxNIT | *isn't |
| 05:00.45 | PrinceAMD | nah maybe x128 :) |
| 05:00.45 | Mutacion | PrinceAMD, yeah.. but.. mmm... |
| 05:00.52 | Mutacion | haha x128 xD |
| 05:00.56 | PrinceAMD | mmm.. |
| 05:01.15 | Mutacion | i should try one of these days... |
| 05:01.34 | Mutacion | its sound logical... intel mac = x86... so.. elive should work..(fine.. i hope) |
| 05:01.34 | LinuxNIT | you havent even tried to boot it? |
| 05:02.22 | Mutacion | noup.. jiji... tomorrow ill download the latest release of elive..but i have to install bootcamp(mac bootloader) |
| 05:02.31 | LinuxNIT | omg |
| 05:02.46 | LinuxNIT | i would have tried it the first chance i got |
| 05:02.55 | LinuxNIT | now THAT would be some elive testing ;) |
| 05:02.57 | PrinceAMD | same here |
| 05:03.11 | PrinceAMD | linuxnit is right on again |
| 05:03.27 | PrinceAMD | u'll be a help to the mac community |
| 05:03.47 | PrinceAMD | i'll be one to the amd/ati/elive/e17 :) |
| 05:04.49 | Mutacion | yeah i now :P i didnt think on that before jojojo xD |
| 05:07.41 | PrinceAMD | :| |
| 05:07.42 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 05:08.03 | PrinceAMD | USB NET MAKES ME SMILE!!! |
| 05:08.10 | Mutacion | usb net? |
| 05:08.13 | PrinceAMD | if i run mad |
| 05:08.22 | PrinceAMD | u guys night here these words |
| 05:08.25 | PrinceAMD | i love elive! |
| 05:09.04 | Mutacion | haha are u drunk? jiji |
| 05:09.13 | Mutacion | u guys night here? hahahaha |
| 05:09.23 | PrinceAMD | high on pillo air |
| 05:10.12 | PrinceAMD | good night all |
| 05:10.20 | PrinceAMD | take care of this irc for me |
| 05:10.40 | PrinceAMD | 17% [=====> ] 120,917,888 25.32K/s ETA |
| 05:10.55 | PrinceAMD | 5:57:44 |
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| 05:28.36 | Pacma | buenos dias |
| 05:30.24 | unspoken000 | Hello Pacma |
| 05:30.52 | LinuxNIT | 0_0 unspoken000 speaks |
| 05:31.23 | unspoken000 | How are you LinuxNIT |
| 05:31.32 | LinuxNIT | pretty good and you? |
| 05:31.48 | unspoken000 | I'm doing good as well |
| 05:32.15 | unspoken000 | Everyone's so quiet?? |
| 05:32.30 | Dreamer1234567 | im chatting elsehwere |
| 05:32.40 | unspoken000 | aaaa gotcha |
| 05:33.01 | Dreamer1234567 | heh |
| 05:33.08 | Dreamer1234567 | im around thou |
| 05:33.15 | unspoken000 | good to hear |
| 05:33.45 | Dreamer1234567 | :) |
| 05:34.33 | unspoken000 | sorry everyone, I'm just the new guy with the loud mouth |
| 05:34.45 | unspoken000 | just like to meet people |
| 05:35.58 | Mutacion | qiubole Pacma |
| 05:36.08 | LinuxNIT | new guy... well welcome to elive |
| 05:36.09 | Mutacion | yeah is cause were hungry, unspoken000 |
| 05:36.11 | Dreamer1234567 | no worries |
| 05:36.14 | LinuxNIT | good to have new faces |
| 05:36.17 | Dreamer1234567 | speaking is good |
| 05:36.33 | Pacma | hi Mutacion |
| 05:36.36 | Mutacion | and we are freazing |
| 05:36.38 | Pacma | hi unspoken000 |
| 05:36.41 | Pacma | hi peopel |
| 05:37.00 | unspoken000 | Hey Pacma. how are you?? |
| 05:37.18 | Pacma | very good |
| 05:38.56 | unspoken000 | I have spoken with you before NIT, you helped me install Elive for the first time a few months ago....thanks again by the way |
| 05:39.48 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 05:39.57 | LinuxNIT | thoughti recognized the name |
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| 05:42.19 | Mutacion | im hungry!!! |
| 05:42.26 | Mutacion | unspoken000, what time its? |
| 05:42.42 | plasma | here it is 6:42 |
| 05:42.58 | plasma | lol even 6:42:42 when i said that |
| 05:43.42 | plasma | the answer is 42! |
| 05:43.43 | plasma | ;) |
| 05:44.39 | LinuxNIT | what about the 6? |
| 05:44.40 | Mutacion | qiubole plasma |
| 05:45.05 | Mutacion | so.. what time its plasma ? |
| 05:45.10 | Mutacion | the real time |
| 05:45.27 | plasma | this was the real time |
| 05:45.30 | plasma | in germany :) |
| 05:45.38 | plasma | no joking |
| 05:45.52 | unspoken000 | sorry everyone, stepped away |
| 05:46.05 | Mutacion | ur wrong plasma |
| 05:46.24 | plasma | Mutacion: i dont think so |
| 05:46.29 | plasma | i think i can read my clock :) |
| 05:46.30 | Mutacion | any idea unspoken000 ? of which time really is? |
| 05:46.44 | Mutacion | ur clock dosent matter right now :P |
| 05:46.54 | plasma | then dont ask! |
| 05:46.59 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 05:47.05 | Mutacion | lol LinuxNIT xD |
| 05:47.06 | LinuxNIT | hambrita time |
| 05:47.11 | Mutacion | yeah!! |
| 05:47.12 | LinuxNIT | i think |
| 05:47.16 | Mutacion | apt time-to |
| 05:47.27 | apt | somebody said time-to was its HAMBRITA TIME!!! |
| 05:47.39 | Mutacion | its hambrita time ppl!! xD.. |
| 05:47.48 | plasma | what is hambrita? |
| 05:47.50 | Mutacion | is a local channel joke xD... |
| 05:47.52 | Mutacion | apt hambrita |
| 05:47.54 | apt | [hambrita] to be hungry |
| 05:48.08 | LinuxNIT | to be hungry time |
| 05:48.09 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 05:48.11 | LinuxNIT | haha |
| 05:48.17 | plasma | hehe ok |
| 05:48.21 | Mutacion | so..let me finish the email..and ill go to the kitchen jojo |
| 05:48.22 | plasma | then our time matches! |
| 05:48.24 | plasma | ;) |
| 05:48.25 | unspoken000 | hell I don't know,time to eat |
| 05:48.38 | Mutacion | jiji yeah unspoken000 :) |
| 05:48.39 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 06:13.02 | unspoken000 | nite a |
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| 06:34.47 | ikslaw0k | Is there anything I could do to make apt work better in elive... my problem is my connection is very latent.. sometimes it'll do good, and sometimes it won't.. so I'm trying to figure something out.. also I'm using a decently old version of revolution, is there any changes I need to make to the sources? |
| 06:35.15 | Mutacion | mmmm.. |
| 06:35.40 | Mutacion | theres a new release of elive..but i havent seen it..i dont know what new things come |
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| 06:36.17 | Mutacion | but its always better to install a new fresh elive ..new things.. better apps..etc.. |
| 06:36.28 | ikslaw0k | see my problem is I can't even finish apt-get update |
| 06:36.35 | ikslaw0k | so it kinda puts a damper on getting new stuff. |
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| 06:37.20 | LinuxNIT | ikslaw0k: why cant you apt-get update? |
| 06:37.23 | ikslaw0k | I get alot of bzip2 errors when I try to apt-get update |
| 06:37.25 | ikslaw0k | due to corrupted files. |
| 06:37.31 | ikslaw0k | LinuxNIT, unreliable/latent connection |
| 06:37.39 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 06:38.42 | LinuxNIT | does it workif you run it twice in a row? |
| 06:38.49 | ikslaw0k | nope |
| 06:39.01 | LinuxNIT | i had mine keep erroring on a file but if i did it twice in a row it got it |
| 06:39.03 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 06:39.15 | LinuxNIT | eventually stopped |
| 06:39.24 | LinuxNIT | went back to normal |
| 06:39.26 | ikslaw0k | can I paste an error.. ~2 lines? |
| 06:39.31 | LinuxNIT | sure |
| 06:39.36 | ikslaw0k | see this has never been normal. |
| 06:39.38 | ikslaw0k | :) |
| 06:39.45 | ikslaw0k | Failed to fetch http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) |
| 06:39.56 | ikslaw0k | W: There are no public key available for the following key IDs: |
| 06:39.56 | ikslaw0k | A70DAF536070D3A1 |
| 06:39.59 | ikslaw0k | 3 lines.. my bad |
| 06:40.06 | LinuxNIT | no worries |
| 06:40.07 | LinuxNIT | one sec |
| 06:40.16 | ikslaw0k | ftp.fr.debian.org is the french mirror? |
| 06:41.12 | LinuxNIT | http://blog.kovyrin.net/2006/11/28/debian-problem-apt-get-update/ |
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| 06:42.59 | ikslaw0k | so what about the up bzip2 errors? |
| 06:43.10 | LinuxNIT | did that fix that error? |
| 06:44.18 | ikslaw0k | i can't download the debian-archive-keyring package.. I get a 404. |
| 06:44.53 | ikslaw0k | working on doing it thru gpg now |
| 06:45.14 | LinuxNIT | one sec |
| 06:45.34 | ikslaw0k | ok.. I got the key thru gpg |
| 06:46.18 | ikslaw0k | ok I still get a few bzip2 errors. |
| 06:46.53 | LinuxNIT | the public key error no longer appears right? |
| 06:47.20 | ikslaw0k | nope.... that fixed that |
| 06:47.33 | LinuxNIT | and still bzip errors... :( |
| 06:47.42 | ikslaw0k | yeah |
| 06:47.54 | ikslaw0k | I think it's from files being corrupted from downloading jacked up |
| 06:48.01 | LinuxNIT | slow connection? |
| 06:48.08 | ikslaw0k | so if there was any way I could erase and start from scratch.. |
| 06:48.18 | ikslaw0k | well it's fast.. but alot of times it'll time out or drop for 10-15 seconds. |
| 06:48.27 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 06:48.31 | LinuxNIT | sucks |
| 06:49.19 | ikslaw0k | ok I found a forum post about it.. told me to check out apt-get clean |
| 06:49.34 | ikslaw0k | but I still get errors.. apt-get check down't find any problems.. |
| 06:49.36 | LinuxNIT | i think that just clears the local repo |
| 06:49.36 | ikslaw0k | I'm bout to try a different debian mirror. |
| 06:49.53 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:50.02 | LinuxNIT | dif mirror might help i dunno |
| 06:50.04 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 06:50.28 | ikslaw0k | well that way it'll have to download the new stuff anyways.. cause it's a different mirror.. right? |
| 06:50.35 | ikslaw0k | my connection is working a bit better now.. |
| 06:50.49 | ikslaw0k | and plus... I doubt I have a good connection to france anyways.. |
| 06:53.04 | LinuxNIT | well its about time i went to bed... |
| 06:53.19 | LinuxNIT | sorry i couldnt help ya more.... laters |
| 06:55.30 | ikslaw0k | after I switch the source in soures.list is there anything I need to do besides apt-get update? |
| 06:55.32 | ikslaw0k | I think that fixed it |
| 06:56.17 | LinuxNIT | nnope the update is it |
| 06:56.43 | ikslaw0k | 99% [Waiting for headers] |
| 06:56.44 | ikslaw0k | been sitting at that for a good minute |
| 06:56.44 | ikslaw0k | hey hey hey.. no errors yet.. I think that fixed it. |
| 06:56.54 | ikslaw0k | it's got alot of downloading though |
| 06:57.15 | LinuxNIT | cool |
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| 07:05.47 | inno | so here's my predicament, wonder if any of you can relate/help me out. I am a student, don't have a credit card or cash for that matter, so I can't donate money to elive (i've converted a number of windows users int elive users though!) and so I can't get a fast download server. At home during winter break, I downloaded the entire iso (37 hours) from the slow server. I then couldn't burn it because Mandrive didn't recognize the CD drives a |
| 07:07.06 | inno | so I came back to college empty handed. I tried a torrent and it got to 99.39% and stalled, for 4 hours before my machine hung and I had to restart it. Now I want to download it and I need it before thursday and I don't have time to re-download the slow server copy before then |
| 07:07.49 | inno | Is there a way somebody could link me into the fast servers or something (I've already gone to the pain of downloading the entire ISO on a corrupt PC from the slow server) and I can't seem to torrent it |
| 07:09.35 | inno | oh, and to add insult to injury my dad calls me from home today saying he's successfully burned a copy of it after he replaced the motherboard at home but there's no way I can get it by thursday :( |
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| 08:10.38 | johpunk | wenas |
| 08:11.02 | johpunk | alguien sabe como hacer para agregar iconos a la barra del e17 ? |
| 08:14.49 | SuperpeZ | con entangle |
| 08:14.56 | SuperpeZ | lo tienes en el epanel |
| 08:15.34 | johpunk | SuperpeZ, la verdad no se soy super nuevo con este escritorio |
| 08:15.41 | johpunk | SuperpeZ, xD |
| 08:16.02 | johpunk | SuperpeZ, uso debian etch pero me gusto mucho el escritorio del elive por eso lo instale ahora lo quiero acomodar |
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| 08:22.08 | johpunk | SuperpeZ, ya pude pero tube que ejecutar en consola el entangle |
| 08:23.44 | SuperpeZ | tienes abajo un icono para lanzar epanel |
| 08:23.52 | SuperpeZ | desde hay tambien puedes encontrar entangle |
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| 08:26.34 | johpunk | SuperpeZ, hey como sake el xterm que lo borre de los paneles :/ |
| 08:26.36 | johpunk | la cage |
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| 10:03.31 | kuhwallskee | man this whole apt thing is killing me |
| 10:03.40 | kuhwallskee | apt tell me about apt |
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| 11:02.08 | pparker | hello |
| 11:02.46 | pparker | i've burned latest livecd but i got problems on boot |
| 11:03.43 | pparker | it locks with this message "generating xorg configuration" |
| 11:04.22 | pparker | any help is welcome ;) |
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| 12:41.21 | Elive_user | ້ຳສຍ |
| 12:52.56 | dererk[work] | Buenos días!/G'Morning! :) |
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| 13:34.44 | Pacma | buenos dias |
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| 13:41.24 | kuhwallskee | hrm... firefox 2 and thunderbird 2 aren't in debian repos yet? |
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| 14:02.00 | wizard123 | hello! |
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| 14:18.29 | Gwildor | o/ |
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| 14:34.42 | Gwildor | why are e16 fonts so small ? |
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| 14:44.32 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh | wenas!!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:44.34 | kuhwallskee | which package do I need for java? |
| 14:44.34 | kuhwallskee | for firefox? |
| 14:44.36 | kuhwallskee | nevermind |
| 14:44.40 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh | ahora si pincho el instaldor :) |
| 14:44.50 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh | ops! forgot the language |
| 14:44.59 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh | installer works it! :D |
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| 14:45.47 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh | hey but i have nvidia driver and i want to setup to enlightmenet de aiglx or xgl how can i tell to file.running.when.enligh.start to execute the compiz |
| 14:46.16 | roxville | sh3mh4mf0r4sh, you can't |
| 14:46.21 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh | why? |
| 14:46.28 | roxville | xgl doesn't work with enlightenment |
| 14:46.39 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh | and the other? |
| 14:46.42 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh | aiglx? |
| 14:46.49 | roxville | none of them |
| 14:46.55 | roxville | afaik |
| 14:47.06 | roxville | google it |
| 14:47.13 | roxville | but i'm pretty certain |
| 14:47.14 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh | ahh |
| 14:47.33 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh | sad then |
| 14:47.49 | roxville | maybe :) |
| 14:47.49 | roxville | maybe not |
| 14:48.13 | roxville | the practical use of them is kinda questionable... |
| 14:48.28 | roxville | don't get me wrong, i LOVE eye-candy |
| 14:48.38 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh | ad in the futre? |
| 14:48.45 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh | and in the future? |
| 14:49.13 | roxville | we'll see... rasterman, the "head" of e, is kinda secretive... |
| 14:49.47 | roxville | but he walks his own path... if it uses TOO MUCH ram...he doesn't like it |
| 14:50.21 | roxville | remember that the ONLY WM that uses LESS ram than e17, is e16 and fluxbox |
| 14:50.39 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh | i c |
| 14:50.48 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh | :| |
| 14:51.09 | sh3mh4mf0r4sh | ok |
| 14:51.15 | roxville | it's not so bad... but yes, we have had this question many, many times |
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| 14:51.53 | roxville | i can't give you all the answers, my son... you have to walk your own path... |
| 14:51.56 | roxville | oops! |
| 14:52.07 | roxville | this is not the zen channel, is it? |
| 14:52.09 | roxville | :D |
| 14:52.26 | roxville | anyway, google e17 and XGL or any of the others |
| 14:52.55 | wizard123 | zen ? |
| 14:53.05 | roxville | hi quidam- :) |
| 14:53.07 | wizard123 | hi roxville |
| 14:53.10 | wizard123 | hi quidam- |
| 14:53.17 | roxville | wizard123, not the distro... the philosophy :) |
| 14:53.32 | wizard123 | i don't know much about it ;) |
| 14:53.45 | wizard123 | i'm rather.. realist |
| 14:53.48 | roxville | anyway, i'm heading for the park with my daughter |
| 14:53.50 | roxville | bbl |
| 14:53.53 | wizard123 | bye |
| 14:53.58 | roxville | wizard123, iphone is fucking amazing |
| 14:54.04 | quidam- | hi roxville wizard123 ;) |
| 14:54.16 | wizard123 | heh.. it'll be in europe in 12th Dec |
| 14:54.19 | wizard123 | :D |
| 14:54.38 | roxville | :D |
| 14:54.54 | roxville | ok, i'm outta here :) |
| 14:55.16 | wizard123 | lunch, time |
| 14:55.24 | wizard123 | i'm gonna hunt something ;) |
| 14:55.30 | wizard123 | later guys/girls |
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| 15:18.43 | PrinceAMD | good morning elive users |
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| 15:56.24 | Gl0ubI | hello Everybody |
| 15:56.44 | PrinceAMD | Gl0ubI, hi |
| 15:56.56 | Gl0ubI | every fine ? |
| 15:57.04 | GPLGeek | good morning everyone |
| 15:57.05 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 15:57.12 | PrinceAMD | good morning GPLGeek |
| 15:57.15 | Gl0ubI | cool :) |
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| 15:57.32 | Gl0ubI | morning GPLGeek |
| 15:57.46 | trog | morning' |
| 15:57.56 | PrinceAMD | morning trog |
| 15:58.01 | GPLGeek | we have a major problem |
| 15:58.04 | Gl0ubI | morning trog |
| 15:58.05 | PrinceAMD | Gwildor, good morning |
| 15:58.09 | GPLGeek | my toaster-oven is broken |
| 15:58.21 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 15:58.25 | Gl0ubI | damn ! |
| 15:58.27 | trog | what kernel did it run ? :) |
| 15:58.28 | PrinceAMD | ?/:( |
| 15:58.36 | Gwildor | lol |
| 15:58.38 | Gwildor | hey guys |
| 15:58.38 | PrinceAMD | lol >kernel |
| 15:58.53 | Gl0ubI | hi Gwildor |
| 15:59.41 | Gwildor | who has chutlhain theme for elive 0.5.5 cd version of e17 ? |
| 15:59.44 | Gl0ubI | somebody have already rebuild kernel for elive ? |
| 15:59.45 | Gwildor | can i get it from you |
| 16:00.03 | GPLGeek | I've made my own kernels |
| 16:00.19 | GPLGeek | its not hard |
| 16:00.37 | Gl0ubI | i've tried yesterday, :( |
| 16:00.50 | Gl0ubI | what way do you use ? |
| 16:01.02 | PrinceAMD | Gwildor, apt-get have chutlhain |
| 16:01.12 | Gwildor | oh, sweet |
| 16:01.16 | Gl0ubI | from kernel.org ? or from depot ? |
| 16:01.25 | GPLGeek | vanilla kernel.org, debian source, have tried both |
| 16:01.29 | PrinceAMD | root@Elive-RL2[/home/PrinceAMD]# apt-cache search e17-theme |
| 16:01.37 | PrinceAMD | e17-theme-cthulhain - Cthulhain theme for enlightenment 17 |
| 16:01.59 | PrinceAMD | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.24 | Gwildor | for some reason, i thought that was the version for the 'testing' version.. |
| 16:02.27 | Gwildor | thnx though |
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| 16:02.48 | Gl0ubI | hum... i've to try again :) |
| 16:04.11 | Gl0ubI | GPLGeek, what is vanilla ? |
| 16:04.23 | GPLGeek | non-changed kernel.org kernel |
| 16:04.29 | GPLGeek | debian-src is better |
| 16:05.07 | Gwildor | Gl0ubI, 'vanilla' jsut means 'plain' |
| 16:06.02 | Gl0ubI | ok |
| 16:07.43 | Gl0ubI | from this for example ? : linux-source-2.6.18 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.18 with Debian patches |
| 16:12.51 | Gl0ubI | just an apt-get install linux-source-2.6.18 ? |
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| 16:26.47 | PrinceAMD | layter guys |
| 16:26.49 | PrinceAMD | later |
| 16:26.55 | PrinceAMD | see u in like 6-7hrs |
| 16:28.07 | plasma | cu prince |
| 16:28.09 | plasma | :) |
| 16:28.42 | wizard123 | hi all/bye PrinceAMD |
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| 17:35.24 | Gwildor | hmm, anyone here? |
| 17:35.38 | Gwildor | meh... ill BRB |
| 17:35.52 | elmo42 | Gwildor |
| 17:37.42 | trog | hi |
| 17:38.19 | elmo42 | hi |
| 17:38.38 | GPLGeek | I just watched "The Stranger" |
| 17:38.44 | GPLGeek | old movies are better than new ones |
| 17:39.00 | trog | i have about 1000 movies & home :) ...80% of them, old |
| 17:39.07 | trog | back then, movies were made ... |
| 17:39.20 | GPLGeek | apt-get install democracyplayer subscribe to ACM channel |
| 17:39.31 | trog | and by "back then" , i mean the 50's ...till today, very few movies |
| 17:39.36 | GPLGeek | has night of the living dead, the stranger, 156 others |
| 17:40.02 | GPLGeek | Cyrano De Bergerac |
| 17:40.03 | trog | i'm into movies ...tarkowski, kurosava, fellini ...i like movies :) |
| 17:40.05 | elmo42 | democracy player is weak... it craches on me all the time |
| 17:40.09 | elmo42 | and bloody SLOW! |
| 17:40.11 | trog | mplayer for me |
| 17:40.25 | GPLGeek | wow. I can't beleive that |
| 17:40.28 | GPLGeek | it works so well for me |
| 17:40.44 | GPLGeek | its very fast on all systems. instant |
| 17:41.05 | trog | have you tried "an elephants dream" ? :) |
| 17:41.42 | trog | cant play it well without my old nvidia card ...and guess i'm too lazy to make the ati drivers work for my actual card |
| 17:52.19 | Gwildor | ill see how it works here |
| 17:56.14 | Gwildor | i wouldnt call it snappy.. |
| 17:56.19 | Gwildor | i wouldnt cal lit slow either |
| 17:57.05 | elmo42 | 03get a dozen or so sites all downloading crap, and try searching at the same time. |
| 17:57.18 | elmo42 | 03it seems like it is java based... |
| 17:59.36 | Gwildor | ooooh, my internet connection couldnt handle that here.. |
| 17:59.38 | Gwildor | soooooo |
| 18:00.02 | elmo42 | 03plus, it defaults to this room! ;) |
| 18:00.17 | elmo42 | 03damn |
| 18:00.21 | Gwildor | ? |
| 18:00.21 | elmo42 | 03what happened??? |
| 18:00.22 | elmo42 | 03grr |
| 18:00.24 | elmo42 | 03brb |
| 18:01.05 | elmo42 | 03Gwildor, can you try something for me? |
| 18:01.31 | Gwildor | sure |
| 18:01.39 | elmo42 | 03 http://forteyne.erudition.org/chat connect to it, will ya? I think it kicked me off when another person joined. |
| 18:02.44 | Gwildor | loading |
| 18:03.28 | elmo42 | 03what nick you going to use? |
| 18:03.35 | Gwildor | tester.. |
| 18:03.39 | Gwildor | but it froze my FF |
| 18:03.59 | elmo42 | 03in linux? |
| 18:04.10 | GPLGeek | 00 FF? |
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| 18:06.06 | tester | yup |
| 18:06.22 | tester | and here, and there |
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| 18:16.02 | Elive_user57 | hi |
| 18:16.17 | Elive_user57 | i cant change screen resolution |
| 18:16.57 | Elive_user57 | i use elive control panel and monitor settings, but it dosent work |
| 18:21.56 | elmo42 | rabe, after you alter the resolution, you have to restart X |
| 18:22.30 | elmo42 | press [ctrl]+[alt]+[backspace] to turn off X. Then, startx in the command promt to open it up again. |
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| 18:26.08 | rabe | i di |
| 18:26.42 | rabe | i did i used ctrl + alt + backspace to restart x, than relogin but still 1024 * 768 |
| 18:27.18 | rabe | i need 1280 *1024 |
| 18:28.45 | rabe | does someone use: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 18:28.55 | rabe | like in debian |
| 18:31.19 | elmo42 | then manually alter your xorg.conf file |
| 18:32.36 | rabe | i looked in xorg.conf ther |
| 18:33.01 | rabe | default screen is choosen 1280x1024 |
| 18:33.17 | rabe | but it doesent get it i guess |
| 18:35.29 | rabe | cry a river |
| 18:35.38 | rabe | ;) |
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| 18:47.40 | TinyIRC | Gwildor, another client test... ;) |
| 18:48.03 | TinyIRC | no space in the tab<nick> either :/ |
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| 18:53.19 | ZeBadger | Hello |
| 18:54.13 | wizard123 | hi ZeBadger |
| 18:54.17 | wizard123 | hi all :) |
| 18:54.30 | ZeBadger | Just trying elive for the first time :) |
| 18:54.35 | ZeBadger | LiveCD'ing |
| 18:54.38 | Gwildor | GRRRR |
| 18:54.45 | Gwildor | im not so hot about thunar now.. |
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| 18:59.42 | elmo42 | Gwildor why not? |
| 19:00.01 | elmo42 | ZeBadger and how you like it? |
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| 19:02.58 | Gwildor | elmo42, i was having ahard time tranfering from... /home/usr to /mnt/sda1 jsut couldnt do it.. |
| 19:03.17 | Gwildor | but, i switched to tree view, and it let me, so , i guess it has redeemed itself. |
| 19:03.37 | Gwildor | i even mounted a windows share via linneighborhood, and thunar let me transfer to that too.. |
| 19:04.25 | Gwildor | oh shit, ive got three hours to write a class.. |
| 19:04.29 | Gwildor | and have to do the otherone tonite.. |
| 19:04.41 | Gwildor | i was planning on having all day tomarrow to work on it.. |
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| 19:06.10 | Gwildor | haha, i think sda1 is read only... could be why.. |
| 19:06.14 | Gwildor | weird its read only though |
| 19:06.44 | trog | ntfs ? |
| 19:07.29 | GPLGeek | im back |
| 19:07.58 | trog | Gwildor: have you ever tried a twin-panel file manager ? |
| 19:08.04 | Gwildor | fat |
| 19:08.12 | Gwildor | trog, i prefer emelfm... my file manager of choice |
| 19:08.22 | trog | like mc, or something with a gui |
| 19:08.27 | Gwildor | trog, i prefer emelfm... my file manager of choice |
| 19:08.56 | trog | i see |
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| 19:09.14 | Gwildor | you may know it as emelfm2 or something |
| 19:09.56 | Gwildor | though, now that i realize sda was mounted by root.... and i wasnt given write access, i understand why now |
| 19:09.59 | Gwildor | bbrb |
| 19:10.49 | GPLGeek | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.24 | GPLGeek | alias ls='ls -a' |
| 19:11.37 | GPLGeek | ls then cp mv rm etc |
| 19:11.51 | GPLGeek | oh ya.... its leet... |
| 19:12.21 | trog | its handy |
| 19:18.56 | Gwildor | yeah, thats how i realized that sda1 was read only |
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| 20:01.28 | Pacma | buenas noches nos vemos mañana |
| 20:01.50 | wizard123 | aww |
| 20:01.58 | wizard123 | they banned me on my own channel.. |
| 20:04.17 | trog | its a tough life :) |
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| 20:11.52 | SuperpeZ | hasta mañana Pacma |
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| 20:15.50 | Elive_user57 | my screenresolution is not changing |
| 20:16.01 | Elive_user57 | anyone has a clue why not? |
| 20:16.26 | Elive_user57 | i tried e-panel and xconf.elive |
| 20:19.18 | Gwildor | did you restart x? |
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| 20:20.23 | kender | hi |
| 20:21.28 | Elive_user57 | yes |
| 20:21.36 | Elive_user57 | Gwildor, |
| 20:24.10 | Elive_user57 | Gwildor, should i try the ati driver |
| 20:24.23 | Gwildor | i have no idea |
| 20:24.28 | Gwildor | i only have OLD ATI card.. |
| 20:24.34 | Gwildor | and i have not tried ATI driver onit yet. |
| 20:27.22 | trog | try the fglrx and the radeon driver |
| 20:36.00 | elmo42 | when i used the fglrx driver, i was able to shutdown... but when i used the open ati driver, it froze. |
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| 20:40.46 | bentejuy | hi everyone |
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| 20:50.53 | GPLGeek | I just bought a 22" LCD monitor |
| 20:51.04 | GPLGeek | 5ms response time |
| 20:52.37 | GPLGeek | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824009102 |
| 20:52.50 | Gwildor | did u get me one? |
| 20:52.58 | Gwildor | oh, not bad |
| 20:55.20 | GPLGeek | I cant afford 2 or I would have |
| 20:55.36 | GPLGeek | gotten you one, for use at my house of course... You'd have to hang out with me to use it. |
| 20:55.41 | i3d | GPLGeek: good deal for $300 |
| 20:56.00 | GPLGeek | i3d, I've watched and waited. Listened to people. Did research |
| 20:56.09 | GPLGeek | for years |
| 20:56.15 | i3d | GPLGeek: yeah, I would imagine... |
| 20:56.17 | GPLGeek | waited until they were good enough |
| 20:56.40 | Gwildor | GPLGeek, thats funny.... |
| 20:56.46 | Gwildor | GPLGeek, STOLEN |
| 20:57.11 | Gwildor | i havent gotten a new PC in 5 years.. |
| 20:57.22 | Gwildor | im sitting on 1.2ghz 512mb ram radeon 7000 @ home.. |
| 20:57.27 | Gwildor | to me, its silly to buy now.. |
| 20:57.28 | GPLGeek | I have not gotten a new pc ever |
| 20:57.39 | GPLGeek | I just buy upgrades and then have left over parts to make other systems |
| 20:57.46 | GPLGeek | =p |
| 20:57.48 | Gwildor | ill wait till 3rd or 4th quarter 2007 |
| 20:58.10 | Gwildor | at the soonest.. |
| 20:58.14 | Gwildor | and even that is to look./. |
| 20:58.21 | Gwildor | intel has quad cores dropping soon.. |
| 20:58.37 | Gwildor | and 8 cores on roadmap.. |
| 20:58.41 | Gwildor | so.. why bother w/ dualies now.. |
| 20:59.14 | i3d | Gwildor: ya and 100 core 5 years later... why bother to buy any computers... :) |
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| 20:59.33 | Gwildor | becasue thats five years later.. |
| 20:59.44 | Gwildor | i3d, im jstu saying... youve got to wait and watch... |
| 20:59.46 | Gwildor | jstu like gpl did |
| 20:59.58 | i3d | make no difference if you just want to wait and look |
| 21:00.12 | Gwildor | why rush out and buy a dual core today.... when quad cores will drop and dual cores will be 50% cheaper is 6 months |
| 21:00.26 | i3d | it will always be better when you buy one |
| 21:00.27 | Gwildor | my 1.2 ghz still does what i need.. |
| 21:00.43 | Gwildor | only thing i cant do is play top of line games... |
| 21:00.47 | Gwildor | wich i dont really do anyways.. |
| 21:01.06 | Gwildor | i3d, i guess the moral of the story is... things are happening too fast currently.. |
| 21:01.10 | i3d | Gwildor: it will be the same story for dual and qual too. dual still does good at what it does |
| 21:01.12 | Gwildor | ill let it slow down before i purchase |
| 21:01.42 | Gwildor | right.. my 1.8ghz here at work is WAYYYYY better than my 1.2 ghz @ home.. |
| 21:02.01 | i3d | Gwildor: computer will be just like poking around a grocery store |
| 21:02.15 | Gwildor | im aware of this... |
| 21:02.18 | Gwildor | hence... me not buying |
| 21:02.29 | Gwildor | me waiting, till things slow. |
| 21:03.25 | i3d | Gwildor: it'll be hard to slow down anymore... only get faster and faster |
| 21:03.37 | Gwildor | not computers slow down.. |
| 21:03.40 | Gwildor | development slow down |
| 21:03.53 | Gwildor | how long did we sit @ sub-1ghz? |
| 21:04.01 | i3d | the same.. slow means dead in this world |
| 21:04.16 | Gwildor | in 1/4 of that time ... we are at more than triple the progess |
| 21:04.31 | i3d | Gwildor: unless everyone hits a technical difficulty |
| 21:05.11 | i3d | Gwildor: a couple of years ago, people said <65nm is impossible to make,but now that's bullshit. |
| 21:05.26 | Gwildor | i think... you are missing the point.. |
| 21:05.48 | Gwildor | i took us say.. 10 years to make... '5' |
| 21:05.52 | i3d | my point is clear though which is nothing will be slow down |
| 21:06.00 | Gwildor | after that, its only took us 1 year to make '10' more.. |
| 21:06.15 | Gwildor | no... you assume nothing will slow down.. |
| 21:06.21 | Gwildor | but it will... it always does.. |
| 21:06.23 | i3d | Gwildor: true... n! accelaration |
| 21:06.24 | Gwildor | everything is a cycle |
| 21:06.56 | i3d | unless everyone his a wall... I don't see any chance to slow down |
| 21:07.01 | Gwildor | soon chip makers will earn they are developing too fast, and not optimizing there profit.... losing profit due to obsolete chips. |
| 21:07.10 | Gwildor | so, they will slow development themselves. |
| 21:07.19 | Gwildor | unless they find a better way to profit.. |
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| 21:07.29 | Gwildor | you assumption is developers care about quality.. |
| 21:07.34 | Gwildor | they only care about profit.. |
| 21:08.01 | Gwildor | amd will always try to 1-up intell... intell will always try to 1-up amd... PPC will try to sneak by... |
| 21:08.03 | i3d | Gwildor: well... will have to see on that.. |
| 21:08.21 | Gwildor | i3d, exactly... we dont know... thats why i wait.. |
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| 21:10.33 | revdjenk | GPLGeek, I need you for a moment please |
| 21:10.34 | revdjenk | totally UNtweaked my elive fstab |
| 21:10.53 | trog | what seems to be the problem ? |
| 21:11.01 | revdjenk | hey trog |
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| 21:11.14 | revdjenk | i can't automount usb, cd |
| 21:11.26 | revdjenk | can I borrow your fstab lines for those |
| 21:11.30 | trog | seems to be a pmount problem |
| 21:11.40 | Gwildor | pmount? |
| 21:11.52 | Gwildor | usb only automounts sometiems for me.. |
| 21:11.54 | trog | me fstab lines will surely differ from yours, since i dont even have a cdrom on this box :) |
| 21:12.03 | trog | but usb devices, dont need to be in fstab |
| 21:12.05 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 21:12.12 | Gwildor | and if i forget to 'eject' via thunar, (or unmount) im fucked forever! |
| 21:12.21 | revdjenk | yikes |
| 21:13.08 | trog | do as i do ...set up 2 keybindings for 'eject' and 'eject -t' ...easyer to control the cdrom bay |
| 21:13.21 | trog | eject, also unmounts |
| 21:14.02 | revdjenk | yes, but cd's and usb devices arent' being recognized, that is my prob |
| 21:14.22 | Gwildor | trog, i know.. im jsut saying.. if i yank it out... without unmounting.... the mounting is forever screwed |
| 21:14.27 | trog | all usb devices, or just some of them ? |
| 21:14.27 | i3d | Gwildor: no, when I said not sure is that I am not sure if they will slow down the development via whether they will gain more profit or less. computer is an industry about technical advantages and market share. nvidia gain less profits on their new cards but they've never slow down any developments |
| 21:14.31 | revdjenk | well, the machine knows something is there, but can't get info off of or into them |
| 21:14.39 | revdjenk | all of them, trog |
| 21:14.47 | trog | Gwildor: only until you close thunar .... |
| 21:14.59 | Gwildor | like right now... my USB devices auto-mounted as root.... it used to as user.... till i yanked it out. |
| 21:15.00 | i3d | same as amd, intel, etc... |
| 21:15.06 | Gwildor | trog, nopers... see above |
| 21:15.23 | Gwildor | i3d, then why didnt they gain profits? |
| 21:15.39 | trog | elive has this problem ...try to insert a cd (thunar opens), then open another thunar...and the close the first one ...it doesent unmount. if you eject it before closing all thunars, the "unmounting" message appears when you close the last one |
| 21:15.58 | trog | Gwildor: can you paste the content of your fstab to pastebin ? |
| 21:16.11 | Gwildor | how about... join #elive-flood ? |
| 21:16.15 | trog | if you rely just on eject and eject -t, its easyer ....imho |
| 21:16.27 | Gwildor | idk these eject and eject -t |
| 21:16.29 | trog | not here ... http://pastebin.com |
| 21:16.34 | Gwildor | /join #elive-flood |
| 21:16.40 | Gwildor | oh, alright |
| 21:18.17 | i3d | Gwildor: profits will come when you take the technical advantage of others |
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| 21:19.06 | i3d | Gwildor: just like what you are thinking. others do too. if quals will be the same price with duals, why duals. that's the advantage. but see, they are the same price, not doubled |
| 21:19.30 | Gwildor | no.. but that means duals drop in price.. |
| 21:19.38 | Gwildor | so why buy a dual today... jsut for them to drop tomarrow |
| 21:19.52 | Gwildor | like i said.. when thing stabalize, i will purchase.. |
| 21:20.00 | Gwildor | not when they are dropping new shits every 4 weeks |
| 21:20.13 | i3d | Gwildor: here we go. when you buy quals, you will face the same question again |
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| 21:20.42 | Gwildor | i3d, not really.. |
| 21:20.43 | GPLGeek | revdjenk, oh, im back whats up |
| 21:20.59 | GPLGeek | I've got like 2 minutes |
| 21:21.01 | Gwildor | i3d, its not about WHATS out... or what COMING out... its about how frequent new hardware is coming out currently.. |
| 21:21.17 | i3d | Gwildor: that's everybody hoping... but haven't you seen any manufactories want to sit on their products? |
| 21:21.20 | revdjenk | I can't open/write usb devices or cd's my fstab didn't have entries for them |
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| 21:21.34 | revdjenk | can i borrow your fstab lines, GPLGeek |
| 21:21.43 | Gwildor | trog, http://pastebin.com/856224 |
| 21:21.51 | GPLGeek | one minute |
| 21:21.54 | revdjenk | thnx |
| 21:22.01 | i3d | Gwildor: I want my opty 2G be the top one forever too... |
| 21:22.12 | GPLGeek | I can actually write a fstab if you tell me what devices you have |
| 21:22.18 | GPLGeek | and what partitions |
| 21:22.30 | revdjenk | usb20fd and cdrw |
| 21:22.31 | Gwildor | i3d, i dont want my hardware to be good forever...and im not complaining they come out with new stuff... you are missing the point completely |
| 21:22.36 | revdjenk | dvdrw actually |
| 21:22.41 | GPLGeek | something I learned when doing from-scratch |
| 21:22.46 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 21:23.02 | revdjenk | i tried rewriting, but wasn't working |
| 21:23.27 | revdjenk | then I have to symlink or something, too, right? |
| 21:23.33 | GPLGeek | revdjenk, so Gwildor's fstab is good for you? |
| 21:23.44 | revdjenk | didn't see his |
| 21:23.51 | revdjenk | oh above |
| 21:23.53 | Gwildor | http://pastebin.com/856224 |
| 21:23.54 | Gwildor | mine |
| 21:24.00 | Gwildor | thats for trog... idk where he went |
| 21:24.05 | i3d | Gwildor: I knew your thought. you want your buy be looking like more reasonable not 6 months down the road, it got dropped to its half price... but buddy, that's pretty much what you will get in the future no matter how |
| 21:24.06 | GPLGeek | fstab should work if the 1) devices are defined 2) they exist 3) they have folders to mount into |
| 21:24.16 | trog | Gwildor: nothing wrong with it...usb and cdrom devices should be detected |
| 21:24.19 | GPLGeek | you actually have to mkdir the folder and put the right permissions on it |
| 21:24.41 | trog | that too :) |
| 21:24.41 | Gwildor | trog, they are... and auto mounted... but sda1 is mount read-only... root owner |
| 21:24.58 | Gwildor | GPLGeek, to you too then.. |
| 21:25.00 | i3d | Gwildor: you don't have to chase the speed though since nowadays pcs are far good enough to 95% of things |
| 21:25.28 | GPLGeek | Tip of the day: You can reduce your boot-time by about 40 hours by removing appletalk, the noob protocol |
| 21:25.33 | revdjenk | GPLGeek, that sorta looks like mine, but can't get them to read |
| 21:25.44 | GPLGeek | lol, good thing elive doesnt have it by default |
| 21:25.49 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 21:25.54 | Gwildor | i3d, exaclty why i am waiting... for things to settle some... my pc is still fine |
| 21:26.24 | Gwildor | GPLGeek, my issue is... i plugged in my usb drive... it was all good.. then i jstu yanked it out... now it auto-mounts read-only... even after a reboot.... |
| 21:26.26 | trog | add 'uid=1000" after 'auto' ...(hope to remember the right syntax) |
| 21:26.29 | revdjenk | I am making the big plunge getting rid of xp, but want to back up my data first |
| 21:26.41 | revdjenk | ah...that is what I am missing |
| 21:26.52 | Gwildor | trog, me or him? |
| 21:27.00 | revdjenk | both probably |
| 21:27.09 | trog | Gwildor: you |
| 21:27.14 | GPLGeek | well check the disk's integrity |
| 21:27.14 | revdjenk | thnx GPLGeek |
| 21:27.20 | Gwildor | like, i cant even unmount it right now via thunar... "only root can do that" |
| 21:27.22 | trog | dont know what problem revdjenk has ...have to scroll up :) |
| 21:27.23 | Gwildor | trog, alright.. |
| 21:27.31 | Gwildor | trog, lol...thnx mate :D |
| 21:27.32 | revdjenk | same sort of thing trog |
| 21:27.35 | GPLGeek | so |
| 21:27.49 | GPLGeek | cli > su > umount /path/to/device |
| 21:27.51 | revdjenk | GPLGeek, all cd's cant' be read |
| 21:27.55 | trog | what filesystem does sda1 have ? |
| 21:27.57 | GPLGeek | then mount it |
| 21:28.03 | trog | oh...vfat, now i see |
| 21:28.04 | i3d | Gwildor: people bought 7950 or maybe dual core 7950 half year ago might be crying why they don't want for half a year to buy 8800... well, I'd say you buy, you enjoy it and you took the half year advantage than those are waitng |
| 21:28.06 | GPLGeek | see if that gets write ability |
| 21:28.29 | trog | i think "uid=1000" should solve it, if i remember correctly. anyway, the 'feature' is documented in the 'fstab' or 'mount' manual |
| 21:29.08 | Gwildor | i3d,but its not 7950 to 880 im talking about... |
| 21:29.47 | i3d | Gwildor: same thing. intel wouldn't drop the price to wipe out their dual market by just upgrading the quals |
| 21:29.51 | GPLGeek | the FOLDER |
| 21:29.54 | GPLGeek | look at the folder |
| 21:29.55 | revdjenk | well, cli system works to mount and unmount... |
| 21:30.03 | GPLGeek | when you yank it out it does not delete it |
| 21:30.07 | GPLGeek | it just becomes property of root |
| 21:30.12 | Gwildor | i3d, im talking about...how old are p4's? and HT, and core's? core duo?.... now compare to the time between pI and PII ALOT LONGER.... development is TOO fast.... i dont NEED new, so i wait more. |
| 21:30.23 | GPLGeek | try unmount, take the drive out, remove the folder |
| 21:30.31 | GPLGeek | make a new one with appropriate permissions |
| 21:30.42 | GPLGeek | then put the drive back in and mount it |
| 21:30.47 | revdjenk | good, at least I can write cd's then reinstall |
| 21:30.52 | i3d | Gwildor: that's fine. like I said, no one has to chase the speed |
| 21:30.54 | revdjenk | yippee |
| 21:31.00 | revdjenk | thnx |
| 21:31.24 | i3d | Gwildor: but you don't chase it doesn't mean it will slow down |
| 21:31.30 | revdjenk | yes, still have a p2 400mHz machine at my office |
| 21:31.56 | GPLGeek | I still have a commodore 64 |
| 21:32.02 | Gwildor | GPLGeek, sure... soon as you tell me how to remove a dir.. |
| 21:32.10 | revdjenk | hah, and my color computer 64 |
| 21:32.23 | Gwildor | i3d, doesnt mean it wont... again, thats why im waiting... to SEE what will happen... not guess what will.. |
| 21:32.32 | GPLGeek | make sure it's unmounted ls /path/to/dir make sure thats empty |
| 21:32.42 | GPLGeek | then rm -r /path/to/dir |
| 21:33.02 | Gwildor | root@Elive[/home/gwildor]# ls /mnt/sda1 |
| 21:33.02 | Gwildor | not_mounted |
| 21:33.04 | i3d | Gwildor: well its all about when you will make the decision and how. |
| 21:33.06 | Gwildor | its going now |
| 21:33.17 | Gwildor | AHH< -r! |
| 21:33.27 | GPLGeek | recursive |
| 21:33.27 | i3d | Gwildor: but no matter when and how, the industry wouldn't change a bit |
| 21:33.37 | GPLGeek | thats why it must be empty first lol |
| 21:33.44 | Gwildor | i3d, but it WILL... its changing now... and it will always change |
| 21:34.02 | Gwildor | GPLGeek, well, the device aint even in... so... buggar if it aint :P |
| 21:34.04 | GPLGeek | chmod 777 the directory if that doesnt work then play with mounts |
| 21:34.21 | i3d | Gwildor: ya I only see it get faster.. so you are saying you see it slows down now? |
| 21:34.29 | GPLGeek | chown to the right user or group |
| 21:34.30 | Gwildor | GPLGeek, actually, ill mount /dev/sda1 somewhere in /home |
| 21:34.38 | GPLGeek | ok |
| 21:35.03 | Gwildor | i3d, im jsut saying, ill wait and see.. if its gonna speed up... more reason to wait... if it slows down.. time to purchase... |
| 21:36.13 | i3d | Gwildor: well that's actually not a bad idea... I was just saying you would be hard to see the other way around... :=p |
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| 21:36.48 | Gwildor | i3d, LOL |
| 21:38.30 | Gwildor | wish me luck |
| 21:38.33 | Gwildor | plugging now |
| 21:38.36 | i3d | Gwildor: I actually wait too sometimes but that's when I know there will be a close price b/w different versions. like the core sole macpro and core dual macpro... and it will happen in just a bout 1 or 2 months, then that's a good time to wait |
| 21:39.22 | Gwildor | umm trog gplgeek.... ummm |
| 21:39.45 | Gwildor | i3d, well, with apple its easy... we pretty much know whats happening, and when.... |
| 21:40.22 | Gwildor | trog, GPLGeek, soon as i insert my device... thunar comes up and says "do you want to unmount this device" |
| 21:40.34 | Gwildor | WTF, i jsut put it in... new OK, or Cancel, mounts it... |
| 21:40.43 | i3d | Gwildor: other major manufactories are pretty much the same I think. 6 months as a cycle... |
| 21:41.16 | Gwildor | the 'sda1' entry in thunar, says cant determine mount point..... my new mount point via fstab remains empty... even upon plug-in |
| 21:41.49 | Gwildor | i3d, yeah... they are.. for an upgraded model... WHOLE NEW CORES are dropping every six months currently... thats way too fast.. |
| 21:42.35 | i3d | Gwildor: ya true... but people buy them, I guess that's why they make them |
| 21:42.51 | Gwildor | i3d, drop core-a, then for 1-2 years make core-a.2 core-a.4 core-a.6 core-a.8 THEN go on to core-b after a year... or 2 |
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| 21:43.22 | Gwildor | no that are... core-a... 4 months later core-b 8 months later core-d (wait what happened to core-c) .... jsut WAY too fast |
| 21:43.30 | revdjenk | GPLGeek, ok, so now both usb and cd mount/unmount with cli , but still aren't automounting |
| 21:43.41 | Gwildor | GPLGeek, basically, im in the same boat.. |
| 21:43.50 | i3d | Gwildor: seldom can chase every single model of the chips. |
| 21:44.05 | Gwildor | i3d, i dont want to have them all.... |
| 21:44.11 | Gwildor | i3d, your still missing the point... |
| 21:44.39 | GPLGeek | ok welllllll |
| 21:44.43 | GPLGeek | I'd advise you to panic |
| 21:44.51 | GPLGeek | you didnt dist-upgrade to sid did you? |
| 21:44.51 | i3d | Gwildor: well ok, I think I made my point clear enough |
| 21:44.54 | GPLGeek | thats a known issue there |
| 21:44.55 | revdjenk | yayayayayaya!!!!!!! |
| 21:45.02 | Gwildor | i3d, when they choose a core to .... furhter develop, i will buy that core... for now... they jsut make new core new core new core noew core new core.....new core. |
| 21:45.04 | i3d | Gwildor: and I do see your point |
| 21:45.19 | revdjenk | not that I know, but I did 'upgrade' from .6 back to .5 to gain wifi... |
| 21:45.26 | Gwildor | GPLGeek, actually, i jstu re-installed elive from CD today (upgrade option leaving my /home intact |
| 21:45.50 | i3d | Gwildor: ok, then dual core, rev1, rev2, rev3, rev4, rev5... |
| 21:46.09 | i3d | Gwildor: amd 3000+ has rev6, did you buy? |
| 21:46.10 | revdjenk | GPLGeek, here is my fstab... http://pastebin.com/856246 |
| 21:46.15 | Gwildor | i3d, yeah, id buy a rev4 or so... |
| 21:46.20 | GPLGeek | well right now i got about 12 people in 6 channels paging me and im not even supposed to be on irc or at my computer right now, so ill help you guys later |
| 21:46.28 | Gwildor | i3d, no..they are beyond amd 3000 now... already a new core.. |
| 21:46.29 | revdjenk | ha |
| 21:46.36 | Gwildor | GPLGeek, no problem at all.. |
| 21:46.40 | revdjenk | ok...see ya later |
| 21:46.46 | Gwildor | GPLGeek, ignore me any time you feel, no hard feeling |
| 21:46.51 | i3d | I know.. but still you got your market segment found |
| 21:46.56 | revdjenk | love ya anyway |
| 21:46.57 | Gwildor | GPLGeek, appreciate your time and efor |
| 21:47.45 | i3d | Gwildor: the thing is rev old cores makes a lot less profits than new powerful cores |
| 21:47.46 | Gwildor | honeslty, if i could mount it as user... via CLI, id be happy.. |
| 21:47.52 | GPLGeek | ps -ef | grep 'automountd' |
| 21:47.53 | Gwildor | i just HATE having to transfer files as root |
| 21:48.12 | Gwildor | i3d, tehy do if the rev the current core... |
| 21:48.28 | Gwildor | i3d, how long did we use pentiums??... and what else was there? |
| 21:48.40 | Gwildor | pentium only for a very long time.. |
| 21:48.44 | Gwildor | what... 3 cores since then.. |
| 21:48.53 | Gwildor | in... less time than pentium was around.. |
| 21:48.58 | i3d | Gwildor: you can hardly put revolutionary new technology to a rev core |
| 21:49.24 | Gwildor | im going to smoke. |
| 21:49.40 | i3d | Gwildor: oh ya, they do. dual core has already rev4 already I think |
| 21:49.42 | revdjenk | GPLGeek, root 14712 14510 0 16:49 pts/0 00:00:00 grep automounte |
| 21:49.46 | Gwildor | again, how long was pentium around, before they released"revolutionary" cores? |
| 21:49.47 | i3d | that's a market segments |
| 21:49.56 | Gwildor | pentium was the ONLY core... for a very long time.. |
| 21:50.28 | Gwildor | things used to be slower.. now they are developing to fast.. |
| 21:50.35 | Gwildor | its silly to buy new now... jsut plain silly.. |
| 21:50.42 | revdjenk | brb |
| 21:50.45 | Gwildor | why am i going to buy a 'top of the line' dual core.. |
| 21:50.48 | i3d | Gwildor: thought you got speed bumped up quickly |
| 21:50.57 | Gwildor | quad cores arent even on market yet..... |
| 21:51.03 | Gwildor | 8 quares already exist in lab.. |
| 21:51.06 | Gwildor | soo.. |
| 21:51.12 | Gwildor | they ALREADY HAVE quad cores.. |
| 21:51.18 | trog | moore's law.... :D |
| 21:51.24 | Gwildor | they are fooling everyone into buying 'top of the line' dual cores.. |
| 21:51.34 | i3d | Gwildor: quals are on retails already |
| 21:51.46 | Gwildor | so why buy a quad? |
| 21:51.49 | Gwildor | thats stupid. |
| 21:51.56 | Gwildor | they already have 8's |
| 21:52.00 | Gwildor | quads jstu came out. |
| 21:52.04 | Gwildor | ALRADY have 8's |
| 21:52.14 | Gwildor | its silly. |
| 21:52.32 | i3d | Gwildor: hmm.. not sure 8's but I guess it will follow the 6 months cycle rule |
| 21:52.50 | Gwildor | we had single core for....how long?? |
| 21:53.02 | Gwildor | and in 2 years... they can make dual... quad, and 8.... |
| 21:53.10 | Gwildor | yeah.. goo dincentive to buy.. |
| 21:53.11 | i3d | Gwildor: well you can stick with quals refine line if you like and not have to chase anything |
| 21:53.12 | Gwildor | good |
| 21:53.29 | Gwildor | by that line of thinking.. |
| 21:53.34 | Gwildor | if i jsut wait 2 more years.. |
| 21:53.38 | Gwildor | i can havea 24 core. |
| 21:53.45 | Gwildor | and you will still be using your POS dual core.. |
| 21:53.50 | Gwildor | only 2 years old.. |
| 21:54.13 | i3d | Gwildor: more core is because of the physical speed limitation |
| 21:54.23 | Gwildor | not trhe point, at all.. |
| 21:54.32 | i3d | more cores to accommodate the speed drop |
| 21:54.45 | Gwildor | development is faster than it has ever been. its sill yot buy now.. |
| 21:54.59 | Gwildor | how would you feel buying a brand new car tomarrow.. and flying cars come out next week.. |
| 21:55.08 | Gwildor | so, you sell your brand new car... and buy a flying car.. |
| 21:55.18 | Gwildor | jsut for them to develop teleporters in 6 more months.. |
| 21:55.31 | Gwildor | when, you already new teleporters where coming out soon |
| 21:55.41 | i3d | if that comes out to be the reality, then you have no choice |
| 21:55.52 | Gwildor | its an analogy.. |
| 21:55.55 | i3d | you can't offer to not to have a car |
| 21:56.16 | Gwildor | bah, smoke |
| 21:57.21 | i3d | Gwildor: you can treat a 4 core 2.2G chip a single core 6G or something |
| 21:57.52 | i3d | and still better cause they do distributed computing other than linear |
| 21:58.33 | i3d | so making more cores isn't a bad thing from my point of view as long as they can make them |
| 21:58.56 | Gwildor | <i3d> you can't offer to not to have a car |
| 21:59.12 | Gwildor | no, but you could have kept your old car... and waited on telporter, and skipped the flying car.. |
| 21:59.16 | Gwildor | wich is what im doing.. |
| 22:00.47 | i3d | and yes, you are making assumption that telporter will be your final lover.. which it turns out to be replaced by super rocket a half year later... and you are crying ... :) |
| 22:01.07 | Gwildor | if it will be super rocket half a year later, i will wait for that.. |
| 22:01.14 | Gwildor | if it will be super rocket in 2 years.. |
| 22:01.17 | Gwildor | ill go with telprter |
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| 22:01.42 | i3d | you never know... so you be wait forever |
| 22:01.48 | Gwildor | the great thing about computers is.. we always know whats ready to come out.. |
| 22:01.58 | Gwildor | they tell us everything |
| 22:02.10 | Gwildor | unless it microsoft... and fuck them anyways |
| 22:02.19 | i3d | Gwildor: I like that/ |
| 22:02.51 | i3d | Gwildor: I would like to buy a golden master model if its successor will come 2+ years later... :) |
| 22:04.28 | Gwildor | i3d, do you use windows? |
| 22:04.38 | i3d | Gwildor: for games |
| 22:04.49 | Gwildor | /join #elive-flood |
| 22:05.15 | Gwildor | i3d, join #elive-flood |
| 22:05.31 | i3d | there |
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| 22:11.00 | unspoken000 | Hey all |
| 22:11.10 | revdjenk | hey unspoken000 |
| 22:11.32 | revdjenk | how's the elive? |
| 22:11.46 | unspoken000 | work in progress |
| 22:11.58 | revdjenk | for you, or for us? |
| 22:12.07 | unspoken000 | just for me |
| 22:12.11 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 22:12.20 | revdjenk | well glad you are checking it out |
| 22:12.32 | revdjenk | what do you think? compared to other distros? |
| 22:12.36 | unspoken000 | always tring to learn something new about it |
| 22:13.03 | unspoken000 | I love it though |
| 22:13.26 | revdjenk | yes...it has speed/beauty |
| 22:13.48 | unspoken000 | very much so |
| 22:14.02 | unspoken000 | so of course I have a question |
| 22:14.10 | revdjenk | fire away |
| 22:14.23 | unspoken000 | ok, here's the deal |
| 22:15.15 | revdjenk | oh oh must be loooong deal |
| 22:15.37 | unspoken000 | I downloaded some backgrounds and put them in /.e/e folder, but when I open emblem, no luck |
| 22:15.59 | revdjenk | ah, simple explanation... you did everything correctly... but |
| 22:16.24 | revdjenk | the new enlightenment backgrounds are for a new enlightenment that elive does not yet have |
| 22:16.41 | elmo42 | ... ? |
| 22:16.42 | revdjenk | it may be in the next version.. but not sure... |
| 22:17.01 | elmo42 | dont images have to be converted to something other then .jpg ? |
| 22:17.09 | revdjenk | there are instructions in the elive forum web site to update that for yourself |
| 22:17.14 | unspoken000 | do you know if there's a fix?? |
| 22:17.34 | elmo42 | nothing it 'broken' ;) |
| 22:18.01 | unspoken000 | cool thanks |
| 22:18.07 | revdjenk | yes, go to forums elive on the firefox personal toolbar |
| 22:18.22 | unspoken000 | I did look, but maybe not hard enough |
| 22:18.48 | revdjenk | I tried it once, and it didn't work for me, but I have a weird laptop... |
| 22:19.02 | unspoken000 | what kind? |
| 22:19.11 | revdjenk | averatec 3270 |
| 22:19.23 | revdjenk | it has probs with a lot of distros |
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| 22:19.32 | revdjenk | esp audio and wifi |
| 22:19.38 | revdjenk | dererk!!! |
| 22:19.46 | *** part/#elive dererk (n=dash@unaffiliated/dererk) |
| 22:19.55 | revdjenk | pooh |
| 22:20.04 | unspoken000 | did you scare him?? |
| 22:20.10 | revdjenk | yep, probably |
| 22:20.22 | revdjenk | :) |
| 22:20.31 | unspoken000 | :) |
| 22:20.59 | revdjenk | haven't talked to him in about a month or so |
| 22:21.18 | unspoken000 | I think I just met him like a week ago |
| 22:21.31 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 22:21.36 | unspoken000 | brb gona try the fix you mentioned |
| 22:21.45 | revdjenk | ok... see ya later |
| 22:22.24 | unspoken000 | I'm sure I'll be back soon, it is me we're talking about...lol |
| 22:22.40 | revdjenk | and you will still talk to me!? |
| 22:22.51 | elmo42 | funny guys... |
| 22:22.55 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 22:23.05 | unspoken000 | lol elmo |
| 22:24.00 | unspoken000 | and don't worrie rev, I'll still respect you in the morning....lol..:) |
| 22:24.48 | revdjenk | whew |
| 22:24.50 | revdjenk | more than I get ... |
| 22:24.52 | revdjenk | or more than I deserve :) |
| 22:25.23 | unspoken000 | all in fun, you know me |
| 22:26.00 | unspoken000 | seriously, have a good one |
| 22:26.02 | revdjenk | know... first time we have met |
| 22:26.07 | revdjenk | :) |
| 22:26.24 | unspoken000 | :) |
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| 22:29.34 | revdjenk | hey Elive_user38 |
| 22:29.38 | revdjenk | welcome |
| 22:30.42 | Elive_user38 | hello all can someone give me advice (new to linux) and have a few ? |
| 22:30.57 | revdjenk | fire away! |
| 22:31.41 | Elive_user38 | iv installed an application but it dosent seem to be anywhere in the menu how do i go about getting it to appear |
| 22:32.53 | revdjenk | the big elive question... see your firefox personal toolbar...under enlightenment, the third choice there is how to make and place app icons |
| 22:33.26 | Elive_user38 | ty ... |
| 22:34.32 | revdjenk | np |
| 22:37.14 | inno | roxville: you there lover? |
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| 22:37.57 | roxville | sorta... |
| 22:38.30 | revdjenk | hey Elive_user85 welcome |
| 22:38.47 | roxville | inno, hi :) |
| 22:38.53 | Elive_user85 | ty im truly newbie to this lol |
| 22:39.00 | inno | roxville: I have the worst story ever and I need some help |
| 22:39.09 | revdjenk | me too, but we are all in this together |
| 22:39.10 | roxville | inno, how ya doin? loooong time, no see... |
| 22:39.31 | inno | I am a student, no credit card, no cash. I was at home for christmas and downloaded elive rl2 from the slow server for 37 hours |
| 22:40.13 | inno | then, after days of downloading I went to burn it and I had motherboard problems and it wasn't recognizing my burners so I cou;dn't burn it before I left for college again |
| 22:40.46 | inno | so now at college I've tried to torrent it and it took several hours, and stalled at 99.39% for more hours until my machine fonally hng and I had to restart |
| 22:41.55 | inno | so now I need elive rl2 by this time tomorrow and I'm only 32% done another slow download on my machine here at college and it's obviously not gonna be done in time |
| 22:42.18 | revdjenk | inno, go to pastebin, I'll have it there |
| 22:42.20 | revdjenk | :) |
| 22:43.05 | inno | I have converted users to elive and conributed that way but I cannot donate money, and have already 'paid' by downloading a slow server copy on a corrupt machine |
| 22:43.46 | inno | revdjenk: ?.pastebin.com |
| 22:43.54 | revdjenk | jk |
| 22:44.02 | revdjenk | sorry |
| 22:54.12 | Elive_user38 | ok where are most programs stored by default ? |
| 22:54.30 | Elive_user38 | usr/bin |
| 22:54.37 | Elive_user38 | ? |
| 22:55.42 | revdjenk | after adding new apps Elive_user38 ? |
| 22:55.44 | revdjenk | or you mean the default programs |
| 22:55.45 | Elive_user38 | sorry for my stupidity no linux experience at all :S |
| 22:56.58 | revdjenk | but your guess was correct /usr/bin |
| 22:57.20 | unspoken000 | hey rev still hanging out? |
| 22:57.47 | revdjenk | hey right back... unspoken000 ... yes, but getting ready to fix some dinner |
| 22:58.04 | unspoken000 | yeah, me too |
| 22:58.12 | unspoken000 | tried that fix, but no luck |
| 22:58.24 | unspoken000 | but thanks for the info |
| 22:58.31 | revdjenk | couldn't locate it, or it wouldn't work? |
| 22:58.45 | unspoken000 | couldn't get it to work |
| 22:58.56 | unspoken000 | but I'll give it another go later |
| 22:59.09 | revdjenk | yippee... try that with xp... |
| 22:59.14 | revdjenk | jk |
| 22:59.36 | unspoken000 | yeah,"I have seen the light" |
| 22:59.42 | revdjenk | yes, some have it working and like the looks, but others like the dev want to keep the desktop clean |
| 22:59.47 | revdjenk | yay |
| 23:00.19 | revdjenk | been solid linux user since mid-february |
| 23:00.20 | unspoken000 | elive is the way |
| 23:00.24 | revdjenk | yep |
| 23:00.39 | unspoken000 | i tried suse, a couple years ago |
| 23:00.50 | revdjenk | and.. |
| 23:01.07 | unspoken000 | I liked it, but never really got into it |
| 23:01.17 | unspoken000 | but elive has me sold |
| 23:01.39 | revdjenk | never could get all my hardware working with it, when I tried it... |
| 23:01.53 | unspoken000 | yeah me too, |
| 23:01.55 | revdjenk | yes... you are using which version |
| 23:02.17 | unspoken000 | elive? |
| 23:02.20 | revdjenk | yes |
| 23:02.43 | unspoken000 | just started using r2 |
| 23:02.48 | revdjenk | yay |
| 23:03.07 | unspoken000 | hey, do you use 16 or 17 |
| 23:03.13 | revdjenk | I started with .2 in march 2005... it has come a LOOONG way |
| 23:03.20 | revdjenk | I use 17 |
| 23:03.32 | unspoken000 | yeah me too |
| 23:03.38 | revdjenk | oh, that is march 2006 |
| 23:04.10 | unspoken000 | The last destro I used befor this suse 9.0 |
| 23:04.38 | revdjenk | I came through the ubuntu path... and many others did, too |
| 23:04.52 | revdjenk | from boring, to wow |
| 23:05.05 | unspoken000 | never tried it, but I hear good things about it |
| 23:05.48 | revdjenk | well, it is a 'safe' distro... like a trim knoppix, maybe |
| 23:06.23 | unspoken000 | I'm sorry, I lied |
| 23:06.38 | revdjenk | but we ornery ones need other challenges |
| 23:06.45 | roxville | hehe |
| 23:06.47 | unspoken000 | I did try sox linux |
| 23:07.00 | revdjenk | so you knocked your sox off |
| 23:07.08 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 23:07.19 | unspoken000 | lmao...:) |
| 23:08.01 | revdjenk | I just threw out 5-7 live cd's that I have tried ... nothing comes close |
| 23:08.40 | unspoken000 | I agree |
| 23:08.44 | revdjenk | well, speaking of close... I need to get my wife something cooked |
| 23:08.55 | revdjenk | for dinner, roxville ... |
| 23:09.07 | unspoken000 | yeah me too |
| 23:09.09 | revdjenk | ok all, see ya later, God bless |
| 23:09.12 | unspoken000 | hey price |
| 23:09.15 | unspoken000 | you too |
| 23:09.21 | PrinceAMD | unspoken000, hey |
| 23:09.21 | unspoken000 | sorry prince |
| 23:09.25 | PrinceAMD | good night all |
| 23:09.45 | PriceAMD | :) |
| 23:10.12 | roxville | revdjenk> well, speaking of close... I need to get my wife something cooked |
| 23:10.22 | roxville | does that mean HE is gonna cook? |
| 23:10.33 | roxville | or that he's gonna MAKE his wife cook? |
| 23:10.44 | unspoken000 | good question |
| 23:10.56 | unspoken000 | But I am gonna cook |
| 23:12.22 | unspoken000 | see you all a little bit later |
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| 23:35.33 | innovati | roxville: whoops my irc died |
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| 23:36.10 | roxville | LOL |
| 23:36.22 | Elive_user38 | hello all |
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| 23:36.59 | roxville | hello Elive_user38 :) |
| 23:37.06 | roxville | or mnzt42yd |
| 23:37.22 | roxville | hi johpunk and sinplomo :) |
| 23:37.42 | johpunk | roxville, hola |
| 23:38.10 | johpunk | alguien sabe como hacer para que me aparesca "el panel" en el menu ? |
| 23:38.36 | Elive_user45 | hello |
| 23:38.38 | mnzt42yd | can someoen tell me is it possible to make the enguage module for e17 transparent |
| 23:39.00 | Elive_user45 | does anyone here know if elive can (or cannot) be installed in an lvm partition? |
| 23:39.07 | mnzt42yd | if so how |
| 23:39.16 | johpunk | somebody speak spanish? |
| 23:39.18 | GPLGeek | Gwildor, btw quad cores exist, they just dont sell well because they are flawed |
| 23:39.43 | GPLGeek | Gwildor, i can buy one right now if I wanted |
| 23:39.43 | Elive_user45 | the provided partitioners (gparted and an ncurses one) do not support lvm...:( |
| 23:41.13 | GPLGeek | johpunk, many people speak spanish, not all of them are online right now |
| 23:41.30 | johpunk | GPLGeek, ok :/ |
| 23:42.00 | innovati | didn't we used to have a translating bot? |
| 23:42.27 | johpunk | GPLGeek, yo know how make to "elpanel" in my menu ? |
| 23:42.32 | GPLGeek | Hablo un poco español, voy a aprendir español. |
| 23:42.41 | johpunk | GPLGeek, jajaja ok |
| 23:43.04 | GPLGeek | e16 o e17? |
| 23:43.20 | johpunk | GPLGeek, debian etch with e17 xD |
| 23:43.49 | johpunk | GPLGeek, i speak a lillte be english ^^ |
| 23:44.06 | GPLGeek | elpanel es de elive, no debian. |
| 23:44.52 | johpunk | GPLGeek, yes but i install "elpanel" in debian |
| 23:45.02 | johpunk | GPLGeek, i use e17 desktop in debian |
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| 23:45.08 | roxville | <Elive_user45> does anyone here know if elive can (or cannot) be installed in an lvm partition? |
| 23:45.16 | roxville | hmm... i doubt it... |
| 23:45.34 | GPLGeek | I'm willing to bet I can get elive installed on LVM |
| 23:45.38 | GPLGeek | actually I was planning to |
| 23:45.45 | roxville | ok :) |
| 23:45.50 | johpunk | :/ |
| 23:45.55 | johpunk | brb |
| 23:46.00 | roxville | johpunk, sinplomo speaks spanish... |
| 23:46.14 | roxville | and several others... but they are not always here |
| 23:46.30 | GPLGeek | so hes going to have to copy the eap into the directory with his other eaps and then use the entangle to put it in right? |
| 23:49.11 | mnzt42yd | anyone have any ideas with my ? |
| 23:50.23 | roxville | <mnzt42yd> can someoen tell me is it possible to make the enguage module for e17 transparent |
| 23:50.45 | GPLGeek | mnzt42yd, I'd refer to the get-e.org docs |
| 23:50.57 | mnzt42yd | cool |
| 23:50.59 | roxville | hmmm... |
| 23:51.06 | GPLGeek | im no specialist when it comes to e, I just use it =(.... I do a lot of the base-linux stuff |
| 23:51.08 | roxville | no... sorry :/ |
| 23:51.56 | Elive_user45 | GPLGeek, how are you planning to do it?! |
| 23:51.56 | GPLGeek | the cool thing about E is that I dont really have to think about it, other than icons, everything else is done for me |
| 23:52.37 | GPLGeek | Elive_user45, make my own custom livecd, ive done it in the past |
| 23:52.37 | Elive_user45 | i mean, you can use the lvm utility to resize/create the partition... but how will the elive installer see it?! |
| 23:52.47 | innovati | GPLGeek: it's so minimalistic and artsy - at first glance they say: oh you've got an apple macin......no wait......WTF is that? it's hot! |
| 23:52.52 | Elive_user45 | aaaah! that way... |
| 23:52.54 | GPLGeek | I would install it into a fake directory |
| 23:53.00 | GPLGeek | then copy it over, change fstab |
| 23:53.03 | GPLGeek | or something |
| 23:53.27 | Elive_user45 | yes that could work actually, i guess |
| 23:53.52 | GPLGeek | innovati, at school they tried to get me suspended for software piracy for "running mac software on a non-mac without a licence" |
| 23:53.52 | Elive_user45 | get it to install into a location it, and then cpio it to an lvm partition? |
| 23:54.06 | GPLGeek | they had no clue it was linux |
| 23:54.10 | GPLGeek | i got the OSX icons and everything |
| 23:54.12 | innovati | GPLGeek: what mac software? |
| 23:54.19 | GPLGeek | it LOOKED like osx |
| 23:54.21 | innovati | GPLGeek: you were running what on what and how? |
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| 23:54.34 | GPLGeek | my laptop, and by livecd on a school computer |
| 23:55.00 | innovati | ah, liveCD on school computer is more dangerous than pirating mac in terms of network integrity |
| 23:55.05 | GPLGeek | I had thrown a script on top of a older version of elive and burned some .deb files to the cd |
| 23:55.09 | innovati | I'm assuming High-school? |
| 23:55.24 | GPLGeek | college |
| 23:55.31 | GPLGeek | lol |
| 23:55.43 | innovati | really, so suspension means proper suspension not like a spanking and a break from classes |
| 23:55.47 | innovati | wow that's pretty nutso |
| 23:55.51 | GPLGeek | I had to call in the dean and he opened up a terminal and used uname -a to see that it was really linux |
| 23:56.22 | GPLGeek | it would have been a semester and a review on weather or not I was able to come back ever |
| 23:56.32 | innovati | I was working in my spare time and I ran Sauerbraten (open corse game) from my USB and they locked my pc and told me I could'nt run any non-installed programs and game dev should be on my own machine |
| 23:57.23 | innovati | they obviously didn't know mac well enough ;) |
| 23:58.38 | GPLGeek | I've had the police called on me 2 times for being a "software pirate".... what makes them first think that the police know anything about licencing and software... and second they didnt own the software. |
| 23:59.14 | GPLGeek | Microsoft had scared the school into thinking that you could not run linux legally and our graphic journalism class and our computer science class both needed linux boxes.... |
| 23:59.15 | innovati | but who's to say you didn't buy it |
| 23:59.24 | innovati | like what grounds do they have for piracy |
| 23:59.43 | GPLGeek | MS propaganda is crazy |
| 23:59.46 | GPLGeek | its not reasonable |
| 23:59.47 | innovati | GPLGeek: where do you live? |
| 23:59.51 | GPLGeek | California |
| 23:59.54 | innovati | weird |
| 23:59.54 | GPLGeek | that was high school |