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| 00:02.49 | TuxMeister | wow, how many log in/log out traffic over here |
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| 00:06.22 | inno | hahaah yeah |
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| 00:35.50 | samuel | sup all |
| 00:35.59 | samuel | whats this for: http://www1.get-e.org/Themes/Toolkits/ETK/ |
| 00:36.01 | inno | so I pulled my USB out, how do I re-mount it and.....it mounted my other drives yet only root can write to them, how do I change that (running live) |
| 00:36.08 | samuel | ? |
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| 00:37.49 | samuel | im trying to figure out how to install that to gtk apps |
| 00:38.47 | TuxMeister | inno, running live just log in as root for workin' with files... there's no problem with that |
| 00:39.31 | inno | log in to the desktop and everything? |
| 00:39.38 | TuxMeister | and for your usb, elive has autorun functions, and as i you plug in a PnP device, such as a pendrive, thunar (the file manager) will automaticly detect it |
| 00:39.59 | TuxMeister | inno, nope, just open a teminal, do "su" and then run thunar |
| 00:40.08 | TuxMeister | from that terminal |
| 00:40.20 | inno | didn't detect it and it totally worked before in all other OS's and liveCD's so I dunno why not |
| 00:40.51 | inno | hehe I love how you guys take the totally not fixing approach to things |
| 00:40.58 | inno | run it how it works, not tell me how to fix it :P |
| 00:41.02 | inno | yeah thunar as root mounted it |
| 00:41.03 | TuxMeister | inno, then that's strange, i'll check that out in about 10 minutes (new unstable download finishing and i need some time to burn it) |
| 00:41.24 | inno | TuxMeister: K3B is the best burning program I've used, I wish it were able to be on elive a lot |
| 00:42.02 | inno | okay, how do I run a progrram from console and make it so i can close the console and keep the program open? |
| 00:42.07 | TuxMeister | gnomebaker is as good as k3b (i like k3b too) and it need A LOT LESS LIBS to run |
| 00:42.30 | TuxMeister | inno, you can't, just minimize the console, so it won't bother you |
| 00:42.49 | inno | TuxMeister: I understand the reason why, I'm just saying K3B is the best program I've used on any platform at any given time |
| 00:43.00 | inno | my sister has a dual-boot machine for the sole purpose of using K3B |
| 00:43.19 | TuxMeister | xD actually k3b pulled me out of a lot of trouble writing things to cd's and dvd's |
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| 00:44.00 | TuxMeister | basicly, the reason why thanatermesis didn't put k3b in elive is space requirement |
| 00:44.15 | inno | understood, it prolly depends on half of KDE anyway |
| 00:44.26 | TuxMeister | if kde libs were lighter on a disc, then probbably he would've taken that option |
| 00:44.34 | inno | although, it would be awesome to have Konqueror running too, best file manager extant |
| 00:45.38 | TuxMeister | xD same problem about konqueror (too similar to windows' explorer, though) |
| 00:45.44 | TuxMeister | i like thunar, clean, easy to use, and it does what you whant in no-time |
| 00:46.42 | TuxMeister | evidence was nice too, but too complicated to configure and use for novice user, and not very simillar to any other file manager |
| 00:47.45 | TuxMeister | plus, thunar is now fully integrated with elive's autolaunchers |
| 00:48.03 | TuxMeister | so that makes a lot at the time of choosing witch to use |
| 00:48.09 | inno | TuxMeister: don't even dare compare Konqueror to WE |
| 00:48.26 | inno | thunar is nice and simple, I like it, but Konqueror as a filebrowser takes the cake |
| 00:48.44 | inno | evidence sucked when it would preview something on a slow computer like mine |
| 00:48.56 | TuxMeister | inno, i DO dare compare it to WE, couse it's TOOO similar |
| 00:49.02 | inno | I wanted to scroll down but it would wait and preview every file I moused over for a split second |
| 00:49.16 | inno | Konqueror isn't anything like WE at all, it's amazing and I love it |
| 00:49.35 | TuxMeister | yep, thunar does the preview thingy quite fast, at least on my machine (PIV 3GHz) |
| 00:49.40 | inno | the thing I love most is it's context menus like, click on an image and do convert to > jpg, png, gif, tiff |
| 00:49.51 | inno | made batch editing or file conversions so easy |
| 00:50.07 | TuxMeister | yep, agree with you about that |
| 00:50.58 | inno | yeah, and FTP was so fun in it |
| 00:51.12 | inno | and all it's protocols got to be really good, like printers, and stuff like that |
| 00:51.22 | inno | FAR more powerful than anything else out there, but sucked for web |
| 00:51.59 | TuxMeister | yeah, on the web side, it was way more slow than even IE xD |
| 00:52.31 | inno | not slow, it's just *not right* |
| 00:52.41 | inno | some things just weren't quite there at times |
| 00:53.05 | inno | I'm a firefox guy, not safari, not camino, not IE, not anything now but FF |
| 00:53.24 | TuxMeister | yeah, mee too, but i use opera in winblows, though |
| 00:53.34 | inno | like I can't use anything but GAIM for IM anymore, even when there's better available, or can't use windows as a desktop, even if it's running firefox and gaim |
| 00:53.55 | TuxMeister | what machine do you have? |
| 00:53.58 | inno | opera is faster than FF and has better support, but I can't stick to it, I know it's good, but I can't get away from FF interface |
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| 00:58.02 | TuxMeister | ok, next stop: elive 0.6.1 unstable with new kernel, let's see if the tv tunner works fine in that version |
| 00:58.08 | TuxMeister | c u in a while |
| 00:59.16 | wizard123 | hehe, epiphany ftw :P |
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| 02:06.53 | samuel | sup all |
| 02:07.53 | samuel | im using debian (sid) and enlightenment and trying to add apps to the apps directory but have no luck... what can i do to change the applications menu in E17? |
| 02:08.49 | samuel | every time i drag an app over to the menus side it just says "0 Qued" |
| 02:08.51 | samuel | ??? |
| 02:33.14 | spz | buenas noches a tod@s |
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| 03:07.32 | LinuxNIT | http://www.glumbert.com/media/spiders |
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| 03:14.24 | Elive_user6 | hello all |
| 03:14.33 | LinuxNIT | hello Elive_user6 |
| 03:16.35 | Mutacion | qiubole Elive_user6 |
| 03:17.15 | Elive_user6 | much happening ? |
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| 03:18.22 | LinuxNIT | dosnet seem like it tonight |
| 03:19.43 | Elive_user6 | kh dear :) |
| 03:19.52 | Elive_user6 | oh* |
| 03:20.04 | Elive_user6 | i have a ? |
| 03:20.58 | Elive_user6 | my gui seems to be ok but if i go into terminal keymap seems to be all wrong ... how can i fix ? |
| 03:21.22 | Elive_user6 | symbols seem to be wrong |
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| 03:39.32 | mardi_soir | helo |
| 03:39.52 | mardi_soir | i m looking for e17 under debian if some one know what a have to put in my sources.list |
| 03:46.39 | Elive_user6 | im new to this distro but i can tell you whats in my sources list ? |
| 03:47.05 | PrinceAMD | 14min more and i'll break up with my gf |
| 03:47.17 | PrinceAMD | waiting for 12:00 :D |
| 03:47.26 | Elive_user6 | tut tut lol |
| 03:48.14 | PrinceAMD | and it will be the 13th which is our anniversary |
| 03:48.33 | Elive_user6 | http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ main efl elive |
| 03:48.52 | PrinceAMD | anyone here care about me? |
| 03:48.56 | PrinceAMD | no. |
| 03:49.03 | Elive_user6 | lol |
| 03:49.06 | PrinceAMD | anyone? |
| 03:49.20 | Elive_user6 | well tehn dont break up with her |
| 03:49.21 | PrinceAMD | :D |
| 03:49.23 | PrinceAMD | someone cares |
| 03:49.25 | PrinceAMD | yah |
| 03:49.34 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user6, hey there |
| 03:49.34 | Elive_user6 | yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 03:49.42 | Elive_user6 | lol |
| 03:49.54 | PrinceAMD | is it normal to tell someone u love them with out feeling ANYTHING FOR THEM! |
| 03:50.12 | PrinceAMD | say yes! |
| 03:50.25 | Elive_user6 | here can i ask you while your here ... where did you get those screeen shots from .... seen them in the forum |
| 03:50.44 | PrinceAMD | it's all my pc :) |
| 03:50.44 | Elive_user6 | you want me to lie ????lol |
| 03:50.46 | PrinceAMD | i took them |
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| 03:51.06 | PrinceAMD | check out www.elivedev.org/princeamd/ |
| 03:51.27 | PrinceAMD | i got some more on www.lynucs.org/?&princeamd |
| 03:51.37 | Elive_user6 | that light and dark one is :D |
| 03:51.56 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 03:52.25 | PrinceAMD | i'm glad you like it |
| 03:52.44 | PrinceAMD | i show off my elive because i want ppl to try this product |
| 03:52.50 | PrinceAMD | i hope i'm doing a good job |
| 03:53.01 | PrinceAMD | 11:52 |
| 03:53.05 | PrinceAMD | -6min to go |
| 03:56.50 | PrinceAMD | mnzt42yd < |
| 03:56.59 | mnzt42yd | :0 |
| 03:59.08 | mnzt42yd | nearly time |
| 03:59.30 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 03:59.39 | PrinceAMD | i'm so fuckin scared |
| 04:00.08 | PrinceAMD | now |
| 04:01.05 | mnzt42yd | dosent have that problem at the min lol |
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| 04:10.29 | mardi_soir | some one answered me ? |
| 04:14.45 | mnzt42yd | you asked for sourcese ? |
| 04:15.10 | mardi_soir | yes |
| 04:15.19 | mardi_soir | in order to install e17 on a debian |
| 04:15.48 | mardi_soir | i seen these tow website but i do not find what i have to put in the sources.list |
| 04:16.02 | mardi_soir | [04:31] <dpkg> [DR17 debs] http://shadoi.soulmachine.net/, or debs for dr17 under unstable are available at http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/files/, |
| 04:16.30 | mnzt42yd | would |
| 04:17.01 | mnzt42yd | asume its something like apt-get e17 ??????? |
| 04:17.55 | mnzt42yd | after you update your lists |
| 04:17.55 | mardi_soir | yes |
| 04:17.55 | mardi_soir | like in a debian distribution |
| 04:17.55 | PrinceAMD | mnzt42yd, this is VERY SAD |
| 04:17.55 | PrinceAMD | i couldnt do it |
| 04:17.56 | mnzt42yd | lol |
| 04:18.02 | PrinceAMD | i'm too chicken |
| 04:18.34 | mnzt42yd | ahhh ok guess that makes you human then lol |
| 04:19.01 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 04:20.05 | mnzt42yd | what age you ? |
| 04:20.11 | PrinceAMD | 18 |
| 04:20.15 | PrinceAMD | and u |
| 04:20.24 | mnzt42yd | roflmao ... sorry |
| 04:20.43 | PrinceAMD | http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=2&sort_mode=created_desc&desp=2&offset=0&imageId=7 check this |
| 04:20.43 | mnzt42yd | your a young pup |
| 04:20.52 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 04:21.00 | PrinceAMD | u'r 42? |
| 04:21.14 | mnzt42yd | fraid so lolo |
| 04:22.05 | PrinceAMD | :) ncie |
| 04:22.18 | PrinceAMD | wife/kids |
| 04:22.55 | mardi_soir | so no one use debian here ? |
| 04:22.59 | mnzt42yd | 2kids ... btdt tried the pie read the book seen the fim ;) |
| 04:23.42 | mnzt42yd | elive is only a desktop the live cd is debain |
| 04:23.58 | PrinceAMD | mardi_soir, elive is based on it so it's apart of us all |
| 04:24.04 | mnzt42yd | but im new to it ... |
| 04:24.21 | mardi_soir | PrinceAMD, do yuo have repository for debian ? |
| 04:24.34 | PrinceAMD | mnzt42yd, elive is a OS, e17 is a desktop |
| 04:24.50 | PrinceAMD | mardi_soir, no |
| 04:24.58 | PrinceAMD | are u using elive? |
| 04:25.01 | mnzt42yd | elive is an o/s ???????? |
| 04:25.15 | PrinceAMD | Elive= Linux-Distro |
| 04:25.24 | PrinceAMD | it's an operating system |
| 04:25.28 | mnzt42yd | elive |
| 04:25.44 | mardi_soir | PrinceAMD, non |
| 04:25.52 | PrinceAMD | that's comes with 2 desktops , e16 and e17 |
| 04:25.59 | mardi_soir | i m not using elive ?? i just would like to run e17 under debian |
| 04:26.15 | PrinceAMD | oh so u want the packages that elive have |
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| 04:26.40 | PrinceAMD | deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive tests |
| 04:26.51 | PrinceAMD | that should do it :) |
| 04:27.02 | mardi_soir | PrinceAMD, you think it will run without problem on a debian ? |
| 04:27.04 | PrinceAMD | mnzt42yd, elive is an os |
| 04:27.15 | mardi_soir | thanks to you ! |
| 04:27.19 | PrinceAMD | mardi_soir, debian etch or sid? |
| 04:27.37 | mardi_soir | don't know .. it is for a friend .. |
| 04:27.55 | PrinceAMD | u have to know if it's etch or sid |
| 04:27.59 | mardi_soir | another friend put a debian on his computer .. i do know witch it is |
| 04:28.03 | mnzt42yd | my view is slightly diffrent ... elive may be distro .... but enlightenment is desktop with its own libs thast |
| 04:28.08 | mnzt42yd | all* |
| 04:28.09 | PrinceAMD | elive is based on debian etch |
| 04:28.11 | mardi_soir | don't know |
| 04:28.21 | mardi_soir | PrinceAMD, ok i notice etch |
| 04:28.23 | mardi_soir | thanks |
| 04:28.33 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 04:28.42 | PrinceAMD | once it's etch it will work fine |
| 04:28.48 | mnzt42yd | its debain with a fancy desktop manager ... (and a very classy one two) |
| 04:28.58 | PrinceAMD | mnzt42yd, yes |
| 04:29.34 | mnzt42yd | so its not an o/s ...;) only a desktop |
| 04:29.53 | PrinceAMD | it's a OS!!!! |
| 04:30.00 | mnzt42yd | ok .... |
| 04:30.03 | PrinceAMD | ubuntu is not a desktop |
| 04:30.04 | PrinceAMD | it's a os |
| 04:30.12 | PrinceAMD | based on debian etch + GNOME |
| 04:30.17 | PrinceAMD | elive is not a desktop |
| 04:30.21 | PrinceAMD | it's a os |
| 04:30.34 | mnzt42yd | ammmmm ok ... |
| 04:30.37 | PrinceAMD | based on debian etch + E17 + E16 |
| 04:30.54 | PrinceAMD | ppl normally get confuse sorry |
| 04:31.13 | PrinceAMD | maybe i didnt explain it in a proper way sorry |
| 04:31.27 | PrinceAMD | i'll blame this on my GF! |
| 04:31.39 | mnzt42yd | naw dont explain yoiurself .... |
| 04:31.48 | PrinceAMD | kool |
| 04:31.49 | mnzt42yd | everyone has thery |
| 04:31.58 | mnzt42yd | own views |
| 04:32.12 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 04:32.23 | PrinceAMD | but when the truth is out there |
| 04:32.39 | PrinceAMD | there is no need for views, off base, or thery |
| 04:32.41 | PrinceAMD | theory |
| 04:32.54 | PrinceAMD | elive is nice |
| 04:32.59 | PrinceAMD | e17 makes it more hot |
| 04:33.11 | mnzt42yd | im just woindersing then why so many people aer calling it a desktop lol |
| 04:33.12 | PrinceAMD | but elive is based on a desktop called e17 |
| 04:33.30 | PrinceAMD | confused there all are |
| 04:33.36 | mnzt42yd | yep you said it DESKTOP |
| 04:33.40 | PrinceAMD | ask yourself |
| 04:33.47 | PrinceAMD | how can a desktop boot? |
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| 04:33.58 | PrinceAMD | how can a desktop load kernel? |
| 04:34.23 | mnzt42yd | but the desktop IS NOT tghe o/s |
| 04:34.33 | PrinceAMD | exactly |
| 04:34.45 | mnzt42yd | ahh ok ... |
| 04:38.57 | mardi_soir | PrinceAMD, etch is the "unstable" right ? |
| 04:39.17 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 04:39.40 | mardi_soir | #deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian/ testing main non-free contrib |
| 04:39.43 | mardi_soir | deb ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib |
| 04:39.47 | mardi_soir | deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian/ testing main non-free contrib |
| 04:39.51 | mardi_soir | #deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free |
| 04:39.56 | mardi_soir | #deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free |
| 04:40.00 | mardi_soir | deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free |
| 04:40.03 | mardi_soir | #deb http://apt.logreport.org/pub/debian local contrib |
| 04:40.08 | mardi_soir | deb http://127.0.0.1/debian/ testing main non-free contrib |
| 04:40.08 | mardi_soir | deb http://excess.org/ unstable main #speedometer |
| 04:40.08 | mardi_soir | deb http://www.bootsplash.de/files/debian unstable main # bootsplash |
| 04:40.08 | mardi_soir | ouch sorry |
| 04:40.08 | mardi_soir | is this sources.list ok to run e17 ? |
| 04:41.18 | PrinceAMD | no |
| 04:41.27 | mardi_soir | ouch |
| 04:41.27 | PrinceAMD | add deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive tests |
| 04:41.48 | mardi_soir | ok ok yes thanks |
| 04:41.54 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 04:42.14 | mardi_soir | i was writting a quick how to for my friend in order to switch to etch if it is not already done |
| 04:42.48 | PrinceAMD | mardi_soir, howto : get elive |
| 04:42.50 | PrinceAMD | that's better |
| 04:43.03 | PrinceAMD | go to www.elivecd.org |
| 04:43.08 | PrinceAMD | gone ;) |
| 04:43.30 | mnzt42yd | stupid ? whats in the tests branch ? |
| 04:44.30 | PrinceAMD | latest e17 compiled |
| 04:44.38 | PrinceAMD | oh and entrance is broken |
| 04:44.47 | PrinceAMD | brb |
| 04:45.18 | mardi_soir | PrinceAMD, i put a link to the elive website at the end of a message with a strong recommandation |
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| 05:05.37 | GPLGeek | This 22 inch LCD is sweet |
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| 05:16.29 | Mitogenesis | hello |
| 05:18.45 | PrinceAMD | hi |
| 05:33.28 | Pacma | buenos dias |
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| 06:05.16 | GPLGeek | Tsunami warnings are fun. It's crazy how these days we measure every little shake the earth does, even under water |
| 06:05.36 | GPLGeek | not but a few hundred years ago they would have just ignored it until something bad happened and then blame god |
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| 06:31.06 | glad_2b_elive | hi folks |
| 06:39.19 | Pacma | bye bye me marcho a domir |
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| 06:46.41 | samuel | sup all |
| 06:47.01 | samuel | how can i eject media from enlightenment? |
| 06:56.45 | PrinceAMD | i'm ok |
| 06:56.50 | PrinceAMD | hm |
| 06:56.58 | PrinceAMD | open thunar |
| 06:57.13 | PrinceAMD | right click on the cd name n click ejecr |
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| 07:19.48 | samuel | is thunar in e17? |
| 07:19.51 | samuel | cant find it |
| 07:20.36 | adLucem | utils/file manager |
| 07:21.14 | samuel | how about the files? |
| 07:21.27 | samuel | how can i change the default program to open a file? |
| 07:21.36 | adLucem | which files? |
| 07:21.52 | samuel | say a video? |
| 07:21.59 | samuel | it opens with vlc by default |
| 07:22.06 | samuel | would like to open it with xine |
| 07:22.18 | adLucem | i installed elive less than " hrs, so can t tell ;) |
| 07:22.23 | samuel | oh |
| 07:22.34 | samuel | cool isnt it? |
| 07:22.49 | adLucem | yep :) |
| 07:23.24 | adLucem | the file association may be in the configuration panel? |
| 07:23.45 | adLucem | * 2hrs ago |
| 07:23.49 | samuel | cant find it |
| 07:23.51 | samuel | lol |
| 07:24.00 | adLucem | on the ibar, |
| 07:24.05 | samuel | ive just installed e17 about 4 hours ago |
| 07:24.11 | samuel | lovin it |
| 07:24.12 | adLucem | it s the icon on the right |
| 07:24.30 | samuel | yeah, but i cant find it in the control panel |
| 07:24.41 | adLucem | it looks great and it seems to be fully debian compatible :)) |
| 07:25.02 | adLucem | konqueror has the Open With choice than comes handy... |
| 07:25.46 | samuel | yeah, so does nautilus |
| 07:26.06 | samuel | im a gnome man myself :) |
| 07:26.29 | adLucem | i m new to linux, 1st distro earlier this week, it was kde based |
| 07:28.34 | adLucem | wow |
| 07:29.03 | adLucem | i put a video file brunt under xp with easycd creator, |
| 07:29.04 | adLucem | and elive opens wine automatically!! |
| 07:29.21 | adLucem | with easycd as well |
| 07:30.11 | adLucem | what s your " production" distro, samuel? |
| 07:30.29 | samuel | debian sid |
| 07:30.45 | samuel | i love archlinux |
| 07:31.12 | adLucem | didn t try either |
| 07:31.19 | samuel | but right now its not a good choice since im on new macbook, debian has much better support |
| 07:31.43 | adLucem | (1st install attempt was etch but didn t work out) |
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| 07:32.17 | adLucem | the only distro i "know" is pclos, and it s very freindly, for a win noob like me |
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| 07:39.23 | Elive_user40 | Hello everybody |
| 07:39.33 | adLucem | strange, here it opens with mlayer by default (an avi file) |
| 07:39.44 | adLucem | with right click access to oxine too |
| 07:39.52 | adLucem | hi user40 |
| 07:40.14 | Elive_user40 | hi |
| 07:43.31 | vectorman | Please somebody tell me how to swich between my local language and english? |
| 07:44.12 | adLucem | it s somewhere in the configuration panel |
| 07:44.21 | adLucem | (i m totaly new to this) |
| 07:45.04 | vectorman | When I enter in elpanel and choose my local language(bulgarian) |
| 07:45.43 | adLucem | elpanel/esperanto place? |
| 07:45.53 | vectorman | then I can't return in elpanel because I can't type my admin password |
| 07:46.44 | adLucem | hmm did you choose the right keyboard? |
| 07:51.02 | vectorman | йавнвадетсеетсяаояянатсатасткг |
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| 08:00.17 | vectorman | when I choose esperanto>bulgarian, |
| 08:00.53 | vectorman | only the menus switchs in bulgarian |
| 08:02.05 | vectorman | I need to type in bulgarian (cyrillic) and english (latin) in same time |
| 08:04.32 | vectorman | when I choose bulgarian in the "keyboard configuration" I start to type only with cyrillic |
| 08:22.19 | adLucem | did you try in e16? e17 isn t stable yet. if it works in e16 but not in e17, you might report the bug. otherwise, ask in the forums.. |
| 08:23.09 | kuhwallskee | is there a good faq on eapps anywhere? |
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| 08:24.45 | adLucem | dunno, new to this. i remember a long post about eapp in the pclinuxos forum, surprisingly |
| 08:26.43 | Mutacion | mmm. |
| 08:26.45 | LinuxNIT | kuhwallskee, do you need to make one? |
| 08:26.50 | Mutacion | ese LinuxNIT ! :) |
| 08:27.03 | LinuxNIT | sup Mutacion |
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| 08:27.27 | kuhwallskee | the eapp files to launch applications.. I'm trying to create them |
| 08:28.22 | LinuxNIT | apt, make-eap |
| 08:28.33 | apt | rumour has it, make-eap is http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html |
| 08:28.36 | LinuxNIT | kuhwallskee, try that |
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| 08:34.26 | adLucem | LinuxNIT, i don t know if i should report thiese kind of bugs: sometimes there is arabic instead of english |
| 08:34.45 | LinuxNIT | what do you mean? |
| 08:34.58 | adLucem | ie. when i open a secon xchat instance in another workspace, |
| 08:35.09 | adLucem | then quit freenode, |
| 08:35.25 | adLucem | and ask to connect to another channel, |
| 08:35.36 | adLucem | then the Add and Delete buttons are in arabic |
| 08:35.56 | LinuxNIT | thats kinda odd |
| 08:36.01 | adLucem | yeah |
| 08:36.02 | LinuxNIT | happens every time? |
| 08:36.27 | adLucem | also, if i launch alsa mixer, it crahses, and the crash message is in arabic |
| 08:36.41 | adLucem | for alsa mixer, yes |
| 08:36.48 | adLucem | will see for xchat |
| 08:37.17 | kuhwallskee | LinuxNIT, the faq tells me to click on create Icon.. the only option I have is to edit icon. Will that work? |
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| 08:37.54 | adLucem | it happened again |
| 08:38.00 | adLucem | will in the same desktop |
| 08:38.05 | LinuxNIT | should work |
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| 08:38.21 | LinuxNIT | adLucem, did you ever choose arabic support? |
| 08:38.35 | adLucem | happens again |
| 08:38.48 | adLucem | (that s only when i open a 2nd xchat) |
| 08:38.57 | kuhwallskee | LinuxNIT, the thing is I launch an app from a terminal so when I click on it and it takes me to eapp editor, it shows me the eapp for terminal, and not a blank one. |
| 08:39.04 | adLucem | no, but i have set my keyboard to japanese (which it is) |
| 08:39.37 | LinuxNIT | adLucem, what version of elive? |
| 08:39.42 | adLucem | (and i haven t rebooted/relogged after variouslittle configuration changes) |
| 08:39.46 | adLucem | e17 rl2 |
| 08:40.17 | LinuxNIT | kuhwallskee, hit alt+esc and then launch from there |
| 08:40.27 | LinuxNIT | adLucem, yeah i think id put in a bug report |
| 08:40.36 | adLucem | (fresh install, the iso was fine) |
| 08:40.45 | adLucem | ok |
| 08:42.07 | adLucem | fyi, vectorman had a font problem earlier (see above), it was about bulgarian/cyrillic |
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| 08:55.14 | kuhwallskee | Ok... so.. |
| 08:57.12 | kuhwallskee | I have an app that I created, and it shows up in entangle just fine, but when I add it to the ibar, it doesn't show up? |
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| 09:01.03 | kuhwallskee | and even entangle shows it as being in the ibar |
| 09:01.25 | adLucem | maybe ctrl alt del? |
| 09:02.44 | kuhwallskee | ? |
| 09:02.45 | kuhwallskee | are you being retarded or trying to tell me to restart enlightenment? |
| 09:03.16 | adLucem | yes, to restart |
| 09:03.24 | kuhwallskee | i already restarted.. |
| 09:03.26 | kuhwallskee | it did no good. |
| 09:03.31 | adLucem | for some changes to take effect |
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| 10:48.54 | kuhwallskee | is there a different server to use for apt for elive? |
| 10:49.00 | kuhwallskee | cause vobcopy doesn't work for me |
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| 11:12.03 | kuhwallskee | I'm using idefix, I can connect to it, but hwen I apt-get update I don't get anything from it.. it always fails.. any ideas? |
| 11:16.24 | kuhwallskee | do they elive repos for e17 get updated?? |
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| 12:38.08 | mardi_soir | yo |
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| 13:18.59 | adLucem_ | when following Thanatermesis's instructions to set up my audio cards athttp://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Audio_Reconfiguration , upon executing this command: |
| 13:19.18 | adLucem_ | oot@elive[/etc/init.d]# echo "#!/bin/bash" > allaudiocards |
| 13:19.28 | adLucem_ | i get: |
| 13:19.48 | adLucem_ | bash: !/bin/bash": event not found |
| 13:20.08 | adLucem_ | any idea what what went wrong? |
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| 13:48.57 | kuhwallskee | what version of e17 is in the elive repository? |
| 13:49.01 | kuhwallskee | I'm wondering if it won't let me upgrade or something. |
| 13:51.59 | adLucem_ | when did you install elive? upon installing, it checks the repos and upgrades automatically, i think. |
| 13:53.29 | adLucem_ | (you can check your version of e17 through synaptic and check it against enlighntment s website; and also see the develpment repos for more recent versions; cf elive wiki)) |
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| 13:58.01 | kender | hello |
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| 14:26.31 | Neonman | apt |
| 14:26.38 | Neonman | hola |
| 14:26.42 | Neonman | hello |
| 14:26.48 | Neonman | get |
| 14:26.54 | kender | hola Neonman |
| 14:27.00 | Neonman | kender hola |
| 14:27.11 | Neonman | tengo una cuestion |
| 14:27.20 | Neonman | si podrias darme una pista |
| 14:27.29 | Neonman | para poder investigar |
| 14:27.55 | Neonman | por donde empiezo para poder hacer una radio por internet ?? |
| 14:27.59 | Neonman | gracias |
| 14:28.12 | Neonman | superpez hola |
| 14:28.24 | SuperpeZ | hola Neonman |
| 14:30.53 | kender | Neonman, mm... |
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| 14:30.59 | kender | hay software |
| 14:31.04 | kender | busca, broadcast |
| 14:31.06 | kender | broadcasting |
| 14:31.09 | kender | y así |
| 14:31.13 | kender | no estoy muy metido en el tema |
| 14:31.19 | kender | pero no es complicado |
| 14:31.24 | Neonman | ok |
| 14:31.26 | Neonman | gracias |
| 14:31.28 | Neonman | mira |
| 14:31.42 | Neonman | he logrado subir video editado con cinelerra |
| 14:31.52 | Neonman | y he editado audio con rezound |
| 14:32.00 | Neonman | muy way la distro |
| 14:32.04 | Neonman | way way |
| 14:32.07 | Neonman | cuidaros |
| 14:32.13 | Neonman | y gracias de nuevo |
| 14:32.16 | Neonman | adios |
| 14:32.20 | Neonman | bye |
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| 15:13.48 | sirjinx | Is there an automated way to update the menus? Or do I have to do them manually all the time? |
| 15:14.24 | sirjinx | Well, automated after installing a program from synaptics |
| 15:15.45 | adLucem_ | i don t know but i d like to know.... |
| 15:15.45 | inno|away | sirjinx: how do you update menus? |
| 15:16.22 | sirjinx | well, there's a few config files in ~/.enlightenment |
| 15:16.53 | inno|away | oh nm then |
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| 15:23.54 | sirjinx | out of curiosity, would an e16 theme work with e17? |
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| 15:46.35 | vectorman | PrinceAMD Hello |
| 15:46.52 | vectorman | I need litle help |
| 15:46.54 | vectorman | :) |
| 15:47.52 | Pacma | buenos dias |
| 15:47.56 | inno|away | hola! |
| 15:49.46 | vectorman | when I reach "entrance", I can't write my username - letters not appears, only numbers and dots |
| 15:50.58 | vectorman | Maybe the keymaps I wrong... |
| 15:51.36 | vectorman | I tryed to install cyrillic keyboard yesterday |
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| 15:52.49 | kuhwallskee | are there any gtk engines in the elive repo that use really small fonts? |
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| 15:58.51 | vectorman | I want to swich easy between latin and cyrillic fonts when I type my e-mails and other documents in elive, but I don't know how |
| 16:01.33 | PrinceAMD | vectorman, hey |
| 16:06.33 | adLucem_ | ask LinuxNIT when you can, vectorman |
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| 16:07.56 | inno|away | vectorman, I wonder if you could do so using multiple keyboard and adding more than one at a time in your x.org config file.... |
| 16:11.17 | vectorman | how can I do this for cyrillic? |
| 16:11.46 | vectorman | what I must type in x.org? |
| 16:12.12 | inno|away | I'm not sure, but it's something to look into maybe, that might be possible - do you have an extra keyboard laying around? |
| 16:13.29 | inno|away | r |
| 16:15.41 | vectorman | no |
| 16:15.42 | vectorman | I have only one keyboard |
| 16:18.00 | inno|away | http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2005-July/049909.html |
| 16:22.47 | inno|away | vectorman: okay, I'm looking in my xorg.conf and I see a block of text that has my keyboard. You could totally plug two in, and have one of them have a cyrillic layout, them both work at the same time |
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| 16:24.46 | inno|away | I would borrow a keyboard and see if you could get it working before going to get a second kayboard, but I know there are machines with multiple inputs used all the time |
| 16:32.13 | vectorman | With my keyboard in winXP I can type at the same time latin and cyrillic letters,swiching between them easy pressing alt+shift. |
| 16:32.46 | vectorman | I searching for something like this in elive, but no success |
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| 16:33.15 | inno|away | vectorman: oh, I don't know about that |
| 16:34.34 | adLucem_ | vectorman, i have the same issue with japanese, a switch key allows to go from one keymap to the other within the same keyboard. if i find something i ll let you know, and plz let me know if you find something too! (for elive or for another distro) |
| 16:35.06 | vectorman | okay |
| 16:35.20 | vectorman | Itr |
| 16:35.35 | vectorman | It must be a way |
| 16:35.54 | vectorman | to swich between kemaps easy |
| 16:36.30 | adLucem_ | yes, but maybe only with a desktop manager, whereas enlightnment is a window manager |
| 16:37.24 | adLucem_ | well, one thing is, the keyboards that have this Switch key are not usual in the wstern world, and most distros we use are western.... |
| 16:37.58 | vectorman | yes |
| 16:38.03 | adLucem_ | maybe TurboLinux, from japan, has found a way, i ll look at that when i have time. maybe the solution could work with other distros. |
| 16:38.38 | adLucem_ | do you know a distro that was developped by "native cyrillic" guys, so to speak? |
| 16:38.57 | vectorman | I will see in the bulgarian linux commuity. |
| 16:39.11 | vectorman | I want to use elive |
| 16:39.37 | vectorman | In the suse linux this problem is solved |
| 16:39.55 | adLucem_ | if there is nothing evident in elive, we might also look at the big distros forums (suse, fedora, ubuntu, mandriva etc.) which have real localization features missing in many small distros |
| 16:40.03 | adLucem_ | ic |
| 16:41.11 | adLucem_ | and is the suse solution easily implementable in elive? if there s a package for cyrillic mapping in suse, you might be able to repackage it for another distro. |
| 16:41.43 | adLucem_ | or, rather, look into debian solutions, since elive really is debian |
| 16:44.46 | adLucem_ | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-l10n |
| 16:45.36 | adLucem_ | trouble is, debian solutions may not apply to elive-specific tools and packages. |
| 16:47.40 | adLucem_ | this is about japanese, but solutions for cyrillic may be similar: |
| 16:47.46 | adLucem_ | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-l10n |
| 16:47.53 | inno|away | adLucem_: I'm so glad you're online |
| 16:47.58 | adLucem_ | (the 3 links) |
| 16:48.27 | adLucem_ | because i flood? ;-) |
| 16:48.58 | inno|away | adLucem_: because you're smarter than me |
| 16:49.35 | adLucem_ | i don t know about that, but thank you anyway :-) |
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| 16:52.37 | adLucem_ | i don t have any solutions not to speak of any knowledge, i m a _total n00b_ trying to figure some pointers for my problems, because knowledgeable people don't seem many in this channel at that time of day...(well it s the week end too) |
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| 16:53.50 | vectorman | In suse linux is KDE |
| 16:54.15 | vectorman | In KDE is easy to add many fonts |
| 16:54.38 | vectorman | to swich between and operate |
| 16:55.54 | vectorman | so adLucem_ we may install KDE and try... |
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| 17:31.42 | samuel | sup all |
| 17:32.45 | samuel | is there any way to get the file browser built into enlightenment act as a browser instead of remembering positions and sizes, it would be nice if it remembers the size of the window in that path, but no more |
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| 17:59.48 | Neonman | hello |
| 18:00.07 | Neonman | please |
| 18:02.10 | Neonman | i need documentation |
| 18:02.11 | Neonman | for linux radio |
| 18:02.11 | Neonman | streaming |
| 18:02.11 | Neonman | thanks |
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| 18:06.35 | kender | hi |
| 18:10.47 | Neonman | superpez |
| 18:11.03 | SuperpeZ | vuelvo en seguida Neonman, que voy a ir a merendar |
| 18:11.25 | Neonman | <kender> |
| 18:11.38 | kender | hey Neonman |
| 18:12.01 | Neonman | kender busco documentacion para hecer una radio por internet |
| 18:12.16 | Neonman | sabes algun manual para novatos ?? |
| 18:13.02 | Neonman | no encuentro ayuda por ningun lado |
| 18:13.03 | samuel | icecast |
| 18:13.09 | samuel | o talvez xmms2 |
| 18:13.18 | Neonman | icecas |
| 18:13.23 | Neonman | no me funciona |
| 18:13.33 | samuel | icecast es bueno, facil |
| 18:13.35 | samuel | no? |
| 18:13.37 | samuel | por? |
| 18:13.39 | samuel | que dice? |
| 18:13.53 | Neonman | a ver |
| 18:14.09 | Neonman | yohago apt-get insall icecast2 |
| 18:14.17 | Neonman | y se me crea una carpeta |
| 18:14.24 | samuel | aha |
| 18:14.25 | Neonman | a la que no tengo acceso |
| 18:14.50 | Neonman | me sale una señal de stop |
| 18:16.05 | samuel | ya intentaste leer: http://www.icecast.org/docs.php |
| 18:16.22 | Neonman | pues seguro que si |
| 18:16.42 | Neonman | si |
| 18:17.06 | samuel | y no te sirvio el primer howto? |
| 18:18.19 | Neonman | que va |
| 18:18.19 | Neonman | no tengo conocimientos suficientes para desarrollarlo |
| 18:19.13 | samuel | no? entonces como quieres tener una radio por internet? la neta que quieres? que metas un programa y uses el microfono y magicamente te transmite por internet? |
| 18:21.14 | Neonman | samuel pues mira si eres capaz de desarrolar ese programa acuerdate de mi ok ?? |
| 18:21.19 | Neonman | evidentemente |
| 18:21.24 | Neonman | si busco info |
| 18:21.32 | samuel | lo tendre en mente |
| 18:21.32 | Neonman | es por que no lo logro |
| 18:21.38 | Neonman | pues eso |
| 18:21.54 | Neonman | si lo hubiese logrado |
| 18:22.08 | Neonman | tal vez estuviese por aqui |
| 18:22.13 | Neonman | prestando ayuda |
| 18:22.18 | Neonman | a quien lo necesite |
| 18:22.26 | Neonman | y no diciendo cosas banales |
| 18:30.54 | Pacma | neonman quieres restrasmitir |
| 18:30.57 | Pacma | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.07 | Neonman | buff |
| 18:31.21 | Neonman | quiero aprender |
| 18:31.22 | Pacma | para restrasmitir uso el xmms |
| 18:31.37 | Neonman | bien |
| 18:31.40 | Neonman | ese lo tengo |
| 18:31.44 | Neonman | ahora |
| 18:31.53 | Neonman | como redirecciono la señal ?? |
| 18:31.59 | Pacma | tienes que tener los datos del server |
| 18:31.59 | Neonman | a internet ?? |
| 18:32.04 | Neonman | vale |
| 18:32.05 | Pacma | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.10 | Neonman | voy a buscar uno |
| 18:32.10 | Pacma | i ya esta |
| 18:32.13 | Neonman | ok |
| 18:32.19 | Neonman | voy a buscar uno |
| 18:32.23 | Neonman | que sea gratis |
| 18:32.29 | Neonman | gracias Pacma> |
| 18:32.34 | Pacma | yo estoy por aqui |
| 18:32.38 | Neonman | solo para aprender |
| 18:32.38 | Pacma | solo cuakeame |
| 18:32.42 | Neonman | ok |
| 18:32.46 | Neonman | muchas gracias |
| 18:32.52 | Neonman | voy a buscar |
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| 18:42.00 | bentejuy | hi everyone |
| 18:42.05 | inno|away | sup |
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| 18:58.44 | Neonman | Pacma |
| 18:58.55 | Pacma | dime |
| 18:58.59 | Neonman | http://www.streampad.com/ creo que esa web me vale |
| 18:59.03 | Neonman | puede ser ?? |
| 18:59.10 | Pacma | espera miro |
| 18:59.14 | Neonman | ok |
| 18:59.27 | Pacma | hola bentejuy |
| 19:01.17 | Pacma | esa pagina no es l oque necestias |
| 19:01.40 | Pacma | necesitas un alojamiento que te permita restrasmitira aella i de ella que la gente te escuche es eso l oque quieres |
| 19:01.41 | Pacma | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.23 | Neonman | ok |
| 19:03.25 | Neonman | sigo |
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| 19:04.36 | sirjinx | Hi, how do I add and change themes? |
| 19:04.57 | sirjinx | I have added some themes to the .e/e/themes folder, but I am unable to select them. |
| 19:07.31 | mutilus | sirjinx, hi -- i'm sure you can do it that way, but the way i did it is to install them via apt-get, then use the theme manager from the menu |
| 19:08.31 | mutilus | if you left-click on the desktop, go to configuration -> configuration panel -> theme manager |
| 19:08.45 | mutilus | theme selector* i mean |
| 19:08.59 | sirjinx | thanks |
| 19:09.02 | sirjinx | but it's weird though |
| 19:09.31 | sirjinx | I did do what you said, but themes I put in the folder don't show up. But I found the theme I wanted in the packages available in synaptics. So I'm trying that right now :) |
| 19:12.43 | sirjinx | Cool, it worked :) |
| 19:13.01 | mutilus | great :) |
| 19:14.07 | sirjinx | Thanks, and see ya. Going to restart X. |
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| 19:32.31 | Neonman | Pacma |
| 19:32.31 | Pacma | dime |
| 19:32.31 | Neonman | http://developer.apple.com/opensource/server/streaming/index.html |
| 19:32.49 | Neonman | creo que esa es corrcta |
| 19:32.49 | Neonman | es que es carisimo |
| 19:33.08 | Neonman | no entiendo como hay tanto alojamiento de video y nada de audio |
| 19:33.43 | Neonman | he conseguido subir vido editado con cinelerra |
| 19:33.46 | Neonman | a google |
| 19:33.52 | Neonman | y bien |
| 19:33.59 | Neonman | me comi mucho el tarro |
| 19:34.38 | Neonman | pero lo logre |
| 19:34.38 | Neonman | noches sin dormir |
| 19:34.38 | Neonman | etc |
| 19:34.38 | Neonman | al final es lo mas gratificante del mundo |
| 19:34.38 | Pacma | si |
| 19:34.39 | Pacma | espera get |
| 19:35.17 | Pacma | get |
| 19:35.18 | Pacma | andromeda llamando a get |
| 19:35.18 | Pacma | el sabe donde hay alojamientos |
| 19:35.22 | Neonman | son super caros |
| 19:35.31 | Pacma | si lo vi |
| 19:35.36 | Pacma | por eso |
| 19:35.48 | Pacma | yo es que uso uno de irc |
| 19:35.56 | Pacma | que tambien esta para un servidor de irc |
| 19:36.29 | Neonman | ah |
| 19:36.38 | Neonman | joe |
| 19:36.51 | Neonman | google te ofrece hosting de videos |
| 19:36.58 | Neonman | y no ofrece de audio |
| 19:37.03 | Neonman | no lo entiendo |
| 19:37.13 | Neonman | me mosquea a saco |
| 19:37.13 | Pacma | pues no se |
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| 19:38.13 | Neonman | cuando aparezca get |
| 19:38.13 | Neonman | ya le pregunto |
| 19:38.46 | Pacma | ok |
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| 21:00.46 | adLucem | LinuxNIT: re the "arabic" bug this afternoon, when i returned to the elpanel/keybord, i realized it was all due to a misclick (?) from me...so in fact everything is normal, no bug to report. |
| 21:01.11 | adLucem | To fix my Alsamixer crash, I have followed the wiki's Auto Reconfiguration how to (http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Audio_Reconfiguration). Everything went fine until I ran: |
| 21:01.46 | adLucem | root@elive[/etc/init.d]# echo "#!/bin/bash" > allaudiocards |
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| 21:02.17 | samuel | sup all |
| 21:02.23 | LinuxNIT | hey samuel |
| 21:02.31 | LinuxNIT | adLucem: looking up the link... |
| 21:02.37 | adLucem | then I got something like: "#!/bin/bash" unknown command or something. |
| 21:02.39 | samuel | anyone know if any program does expose-like functionality for e17? |
| 21:02.55 | samuel | and if there is any program to get desktop icons that works in e17? |
| 21:03.10 | samuel | i tried idesk... but cant get it to display above e17 |
| 21:03.39 | adLucem | samuel: did you check e17 s website? |
| 21:03.48 | adLucem | LinuxNIT: thank you |
| 21:04.03 | LinuxNIT | samuel: not that i know of... i think there is another besdies idesk in the repos |
| 21:04.12 | LinuxNIT | i cant look atm |
| 21:04.34 | samuel | adLucem: yes, all i find is something stating that idesk breaks the functionality of e17... and its not supported... |
| 21:04.48 | adLucem | ok |
| 21:04.56 | inno|away | okay, in elive when I put a DVD in it does not automount it - is there a way to turn automounting back on? |
| 21:05.30 | inno|away | I can't play it unless I as root manually mount the DVD and even yet it will play some but not all, I think oxine has some messed up settings |
| 21:05.59 | LinuxNIT | inno|away: dvds dont normally mount to play. |
| 21:06.19 | inno|away | LinuxNIT: well it can't find the DVD in oxine unless I mount it |
| 21:06.25 | inno|away | and even yet it doesn't work right |
| 21:06.30 | adLucem | inno: couldn t it play through thunar/right click on icon? |
| 21:06.30 | LinuxNIT | thats kinda odd |
| 21:06.49 | inno|away | adLucem: didn't try that, this thunar thing is new to me and that only works as root anyway |
| 21:07.14 | adLucem | ic |
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| 21:07.17 | LinuxNIT | thunar only works as root? |
| 21:07.18 | inno|away | okay, from command line, how do I open a program as root, and be able to close the terminal without killing the app? |
| 21:07.23 | LinuxNIT | that dosent make sense |
| 21:07.26 | inno|away | thunar only shows drives as root |
| 21:07.31 | inno|away | like mounted stuff |
| 21:07.38 | Elive_user46 | hi |
| 21:07.42 | LinuxNIT | hi Elive_user46 |
| 21:07.43 | adLucem | for _.avi_ thunar work as user, for me. |
| 21:07.52 | Elive_user46 | what is elive about? |
| 21:07.57 | LinuxNIT | inno|away: what version are you on? |
| 21:07.59 | Elive_user46 | it looks so confuging |
| 21:08.06 | Elive_user46 | confusing |
| 21:08.12 | adLucem | it s different, for sure |
| 21:08.26 | inno|away | 0.6.1 |
| 21:08.30 | inno|away | so where is the drive in thunar? |
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| 21:08.32 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user46: fast launch icons are on the bottom of the screen and the menu is abtained by clicking on the desktop |
| 21:08.36 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 21:08.42 | PrinceAMD | just messing with yah |
| 21:08.54 | samuel | so anyone on expose like functionality in e17? |
| 21:08.56 | PrinceAMD | :) thansk linuxnit |
| 21:08.56 | LinuxNIT | inno|away: should be on the left.... if not check in /mnt or /media |
| 21:09.03 | adLucem | for sure, and, hopefully, after getting accustomed a bit, for the best! |
| 21:09.23 | inno|away | not in sidebar, not in mnt not in media |
| 21:09.35 | inno|away | unless I moont it as su |
| 21:10.13 | LinuxNIT | inno|away: did you do a md5sum check on the iso before burning/ |
| 21:10.16 | inno|away | mounted it as root, it shows up, but how do I play it from thunar? |
| 21:10.22 | inno|away | LinuxNIT: I sure did, turned up AOK |
| 21:10.44 | adLucem | inno: can you have brunt video files open through thunar as user? i could, so if you can t your set up might have something wrong to start with. |
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| 21:11.20 | Neonman | hola |
| 21:11.26 | inno|away | I didn't understand that last post adLucem |
| 21:11.46 | adLucem | right click on the icon below "file tree" (of i can remember) and mplayer should be there |
| 21:11.53 | LinuxNIT | ill brb guys... hang on |
| 21:12.11 | adLucem | *burnt video cd |
| 21:12.15 | Neonman | hola |
| 21:12.16 | Neonman | hello |
| 21:12.20 | Neonman | get |
| 21:12.23 | adLucem | hi |
| 21:12.26 | Neonman | estas ?? |
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| 21:14.16 | adLucem | inno: can you open burnt cd through thunar (as user)? i could, so, if you can t, your set up might have something wrong to start with. |
| 21:14.36 | inno|away | I don't understand, this is commercial DVD |
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| 21:15.23 | adLucem | ok. i think basic avi file is easier to read than commercial dvd (no?). so you could first test if you can read the easy stuff. |
| 21:16.05 | inno|away | but I odn't have that |
| 21:16.14 | inno|away | I need to run a DVD, that's what I'm trying to view |
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| 21:17.06 | adLucem | sure, forget my suggestion then. it was just problem spotting procedure from a clueless elive noob |
| 21:17.19 | inno|away | I don't get it |
| 21:17.28 | inno|away | I'm sorry, not everything is making sense to me right now |
| 21:17.38 | adLucem | yep, forget it then ;-) |
| 21:18.30 | LinuxNIT | in is this a dvd movie bought from a store? |
| 21:18.35 | adLucem | (even if they were grammatically correct, my suggestions may not make sense technically) |
| 21:18.37 | LinuxNIT | inno|away, is this a dvd movie bought from a store? |
| 21:18.45 | inno|away | inno|away: yeah, commercial DVD |
| 21:19.04 | LinuxNIT | are you on e17 or e16? |
| 21:19.04 | inno|away | I'd like to get either The Producers running or Lord of the Rings |
| 21:19.07 | inno|away | e17 |
| 21:19.22 | LinuxNIT | default version or did you update? |
| 21:19.28 | inno|away | default 0.6.1 |
| 21:19.34 | inno|away | live |
| 21:19.46 | LinuxNIT | in livemode? |
| 21:20.00 | LinuxNIT | you have 2 cd/dvd drives then i take it? |
| 21:20.36 | inno|away | yeah, DVD reader, Elive running in that one |
| 21:20.43 | inno|away | that shows up in /media/ |
| 21:21.03 | LinuxNIT | and what did you put the dvd into if elive is in the dvd reader? |
| 21:21.15 | inno|away | and a DVD burner |
| 21:21.19 | inno|away | which the DVD is in |
| 21:21.22 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 21:21.35 | LinuxNIT | eject the dvd for me |
| 21:21.41 | LinuxNIT | then reinsert it |
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| 21:21.50 | inno|away | k |
| 21:21.56 | LinuxNIT | anything happen? |
| 21:22.07 | inno|away | gotta unmount it first hang on |
| 21:22.25 | inno|away | eject, close, waiting |
| 21:23.07 | LinuxNIT | open a terminal |
| 21:23.14 | inno|away | k |
| 21:23.22 | inno|away | open, and nothing happened BTW |
| 21:24.09 | LinuxNIT | ps -A | grep ivman |
| 21:24.10 | LinuxNIT | run that command is there any output? |
| 21:24.24 | inno|away | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.30 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 21:24.32 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 21:24.48 | LinuxNIT | now open thunar as user |
| 21:24.52 | inno|away | mmkay |
| 21:24.54 | inno|away | from terminal? |
| 21:25.00 | LinuxNIT | sure |
| 21:25.02 | inno|away | k |
| 21:25.09 | inno|away | k |
| 21:25.42 | LinuxNIT | see the disc on the left? |
| 21:25.57 | inno|away | there is no disk on the side-bar |
| 21:26.06 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 21:26.10 | inno|away | eliveuser, trash, filesystem, USB DISK |
| 21:29.24 | inno|away | there is no disc icon in the sidebar |
| 21:29.26 | LinuxNIT | does it work through mplayer |
| 21:29.45 | inno|away | I can access the disc via play dvd |
| 21:29.53 | inno|away | but no menu, no options, no sound and choppy video |
| 21:30.15 | LinuxNIT | and what happens in oxine? |
| 21:30.40 | inno|away | it can't play disc |
| 21:30.58 | LinuxNIT | is that the error msg? |
| 21:31.09 | inno|away | unless I mount it to a folder, where it plays it no sound, switching rapidly between widescreen and fullscreen and choppy with coloured bits all over |
| 21:31.55 | inno|away | no, it does nothing |
| 21:32.03 | inno|away | I click play and select the drive and it does nothing |
| 21:32.13 | inno|away | the drive doesn't show up anywhere else |
| 21:32.29 | inno|away | yet if I eject hdc, it will eject my drive and quit the program |
| 21:34.00 | LinuxNIT | sounds kinda screwing to me... i dunno man |
| 21:34.01 | LinuxNIT | sorry |
| 21:34.13 | inno|away | thanks for trying |
| 21:34.26 | inno|away | I'll just shoot myself now and hope the date doesn't mind watching youtube ;) |
| 21:34.46 | inno|away | naw, I dunno what to do |
| 21:34.50 | LinuxNIT | if you have enough ram you could install gxine or something |
| 21:34.58 | LinuxNIT | see if one of those work |
| 21:35.01 | inno|away | gxine? |
| 21:35.04 | inno|away | mmkay |
| 21:35.06 | inno|away | thanks |
| 21:38.37 | LinuxNIT | and yes you can install in livemode ;) |
| 21:38.47 | LinuxNIT | as long as you have plenty of ram |
| 21:39.12 | inno|away | hahaha |
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| 21:39.26 | inno|away | guess what, apart from sound that works, I bet it's GAIM that's copnflicting with it |
| 21:39.43 | inno|away | gxine and LinuxNIT and adLucem save that day/date once again |
| 21:39.52 | LinuxNIT | gxine worked? |
| 21:39.54 | LinuxNIT | cool |
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| 21:43.03 | inno|away | yeah this is the same girl as thursday coming over again too! |
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| 21:44.43 | dats | re |
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| 22:04.29 | inno|away | be back later folks, got a date coming |
| 22:04.40 | inno|away | /inno|afk |
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| 22:29.52 | Elive_user37 | Hey everyone |
| 22:30.22 | LinuxNIT | hello unspoken |
| 22:30.37 | unspoken | Hey NIT how ya doing today?? |
| 22:31.11 | LinuxNIT | pretty good and you? |
| 22:31.32 | unspoken | I'm ok, watching football |
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| 22:33.15 | unspoken | Hey NIT do you know if there is a way to get yahoo messenger to run in elive?? I tried to use wine, but no luck?? |
| 22:33.30 | LinuxNIT | why not use gaim? |
| 22:34.18 | unspoken | To be honest, I don't know to much about it, is it the same? |
| 22:34.43 | LinuxNIT | its a chat program that can handle like 6 different protocals |
| 22:34.55 | LinuxNIT | msn,aol,yahoo,irc,jabber,etc |
| 22:35.12 | unspoken | ok, cool, sounds kinda like trillion? |
| 22:35.42 | LinuxNIT | better :D |
| 22:36.34 | unspoken | I'll give it a shot, thanks for help as always... |
| 22:38.54 | LinuxNIT | no problem |
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| 22:44.44 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | anyone here can help me network 2 elive pc? |
| 22:45.02 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | please help |
| 22:45.16 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD-pc1, help us help you |
| 22:45.30 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | how? |
| 22:45.39 | GPLGeek | um... you guys are going to **** your pants. |
| 22:45.53 | LinuxNIT | well PrinceAMD-pc1 for one i have no idea what the problem is |
| 22:45.57 | wizard123 | what do you need? ping, filesharing, webserver, ftp, ssh, rsync? |
| 22:45.58 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, wait |
| 22:46.00 | GPLGeek | Apple + GNU |
| 22:46.04 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | ok |
| 22:46.05 | LinuxNIT | shit |
| 22:46.07 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | my problem is |
| 22:46.10 | GPLGeek | I know mac developers |
| 22:46.11 | LinuxNIT | you didnt let me get my diapper |
| 22:46.19 | GPLGeek | saw a artwork |
| 22:46.23 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | that i want to network my 2 pc both of them have elive 0.5.5 installed |
| 22:46.25 | LinuxNIT | interesting |
| 22:46.31 | GPLGeek | Mac OSX 10:G |
| 22:46.31 | LinuxNIT | mac and gnu aye? |
| 22:46.37 | LinuxNIT | free? |
| 22:46.38 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 22:46.51 | GPLGeek | quote "The GNU alternative" |
| 22:46.55 | GPLGeek | well... |
| 22:47.05 | LinuxNIT | haha nice play on words |
| 22:47.14 | GPLGeek | Mac is developing a somewhat open forigne driver interface for the end user |
| 22:47.14 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD-pc1, network in what way? |
| 22:47.25 | LinuxNIT | file shareing? |
| 22:47.28 | wizard123 | PrinceAMD-pc1: wifi or utp-5 ? |
| 22:47.42 | GPLGeek | They will support Xorg and GNU desktops |
| 22:48.04 | GPLGeek | we might see mac release a version people can easily throw E on, and still use mac software on |
| 22:48.16 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 22:48.21 | GPLGeek | its BSD based though, Darwin/MacOS X |
| 22:48.23 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | lan |
| 22:48.25 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | wired! |
| 22:48.35 | LinuxNIT | although honestly i think id like the mac id darwin interface better |
| 22:48.43 | GPLGeek | I can only guess.... Even internally nobody is told what all this is about but they had a testing image out |
| 22:48.44 | wizard123 | 1. configure nics on both pcs |
| 22:48.46 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD-pc1, with a router? |
| 22:48.53 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | yep |
| 22:49.03 | wizard123 | let's say 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2 |
| 22:49.07 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | this pc is 192.168.1.5 the other is 192.168.1.6 |
| 22:49.14 | wizard123 | ah |
| 22:49.21 | wizard123 | so you want to setup routing :) |
| 22:49.33 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | just want to share files |
| 22:49.39 | wizard123 | nfs :) |
| 22:49.48 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | yes :) |
| 22:49.56 | wizard123 | what's difficult in it? |
| 22:50.06 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | never done it before :D |
| 22:50.17 | wizard123 | elive sux and does not provide nfs server, you need to install it |
| 22:50.18 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | i did linux to windows |
| 22:50.29 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | ok |
| 22:50.32 | GPLGeek | http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/13/1746234&from=rss this is interesting |
| 22:50.39 | wizard123 | unix + unix is easy to setup |
| 22:50.48 | wizard123 | on server you edit /etc/exports |
| 22:51.42 | wizard123 | for example adding /mnt/shared -maproot=0 should be enough |
| 22:52.04 | wizard123 | than you just mount it: mount host:/mnt/shared /somewhere |
| 22:53.14 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | ok hold it let me get the nfs server |
| 22:54.50 | LinuxNIT | um you can set them up in elpanel i think |
| 22:55.00 | LinuxNIT | look at the shared folder section of elpanel |
| 22:55.39 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | ok |
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| 23:00.02 | LinuxNIT | yeah both mounting and serving are there |
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| 23:02.03 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 23:02.14 | PrinceAMD | i'm on pc 2 but not getting access to pc1 files |
| 23:02.31 | PrinceAMD | i shared files using the easy way in elpanel |
| 23:04.43 | wizard123 | :] |
| 23:04.46 | wizard123 | cool |
| 23:04.59 | PrinceAMD | not cool |
| 23:05.03 | PrinceAMD | i'm not getting access |
| 23:05.08 | PrinceAMD | let me ping the ip |
| 23:05.20 | PrinceAMD | PING 192.168.1.5 (192.168.1.5) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 23:05.21 | PrinceAMD | 64 bytes from 192.168.1.5: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=16.9 ms |
| 23:05.21 | PrinceAMD | 64 bytes from 192.168.1.5: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=17.7 ms |
| 23:05.30 | PrinceAMD | good |
| 23:05.33 | PrinceAMD | ip is good |
| 23:05.55 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 23:05.59 | GPLGeek | you have to wait for a connection to be avaliable to set up usb networking |
| 23:06.02 | LinuxNIT | you had to prove it? |
| 23:06.06 | GPLGeek | you cant set it up before the fact |
| 23:06.22 | LinuxNIT | i thought it was a known fact |
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| 23:06.31 | LinuxNIT | i finally heard my sister say "i hate windows" |
| 23:06.41 | LinuxNIT | its only a matter of time till she converts to linux |
| 23:07.02 | GPLGeek | well.... one thing I have to give to ms |
| 23:07.15 | GPLGeek | Finally they figured out how to get rid of all that hard drive space we didnt want! |
| 23:07.20 | LinuxNIT | they have good marketing? |
| 23:07.25 | GPLGeek | vista is like 5000,000 gigabytes |
| 23:07.33 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 23:07.47 | PrinceAMD | yea :D |
| 23:07.52 | PrinceAMD | i got it to work :D |
| 23:07.59 | PrinceAMD | thanks guys |
| 23:07.59 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD, i set the server to accept anyone on the network that eth0 is on |
| 23:08.02 | LinuxNIT | worked fine |
| 23:08.08 | PrinceAMD | yes i did that |
| 23:08.11 | LinuxNIT | may not be "as secure" but i dont care |
| 23:08.13 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 23:08.33 | GPLGeek | Windows vista, as fast as a pallet of bricks. TM |
| 23:09.57 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | back on the other pc |
| 23:10.21 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | damn i hate going behind there and plugging out mouse/keyboard and vga cable |
| 23:10.58 | LinuxNIT | two computes one set of montior keyboard and mouse? |
| 23:12.43 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | yes |
| 23:12.55 | wizard123 | LinuxNIT: buy splitter |
| 23:13.03 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | :) |
| 23:13.06 | LinuxNIT | or use ssh to control one |
| 23:13.12 | LinuxNIT | cheaper |
| 23:13.20 | LinuxNIT | tunnel X if you want the guis |
| 23:13.26 | wizard123 | i have i have this in my server room, 4 machines atached to one lcsd and keayboard |
| 23:13.31 | wizard123 | mouse is not needed |
| 23:14.04 | LinuxNIT | i have this.... a laptop with built in monitor keyboard and mouse |
| 23:14.10 | LinuxNIT | very simple actually |
| 23:14.12 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 23:15.44 | GPLGeek | X is extremely efficient over a network |
| 23:16.00 | wizard123 | x is not needed in my case |
| 23:16.18 | LinuxNIT | my brothers server here beside me dosent even have x |
| 23:16.19 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 23:16.21 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | is there come way to run vnc server all the time |
| 23:16.44 | wizard123 | vnc is lame, xdmcp rulez :D |
| 23:16.56 | GPLGeek | xdmcp does rock |
| 23:16.58 | dats | xdmcp ? |
| 23:17.06 | wizard123 | man xdm |
| 23:17.08 | dats | uououououououo |
| 23:17.21 | wizard123 | rtfm :P |
| 23:17.29 | LinuxNIT | stfu wizard123 |
| 23:17.35 | dats | wizard123: ......... |
| 23:17.59 | wizard123 | doods, my linux distro will rock your socks |
| 23:18.04 | GPLGeek | I used to belong to a project where rtfm was said a lot and developers were elitest and hostile. |
| 23:18.19 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, gentoo? |
| 23:18.30 | GPLGeek | lol no... |
| 23:18.35 | LinuxNIT | oh wait |
| 23:18.39 | wizard123 | debian |
| 23:18.41 | LinuxNIT | thats the users that are elitest |
| 23:18.56 | wizard123 | ricers are crazy |
| 23:18.58 | dats | xD |
| 23:18.59 | GPLGeek | I'd actually rather not talk about WHAT it was because it was a windows project and half of it was closed source. |
| 23:19.09 | LinuxNIT | know what the best distro is? |
| 23:19.13 | LinuxNIT | the one that works for you |
| 23:19.16 | LinuxNIT | wow thats hard |
| 23:19.33 | wizard123 | none works for me, so it implies: linux sux :P |
| 23:19.46 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 23:19.51 | LinuxNIT | linux sux for you |
| 23:19.53 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 23:19.57 | LinuxNIT | or you suck for linux |
| 23:19.57 | wizard123 | i agree |
| 23:20.00 | GPLGeek | wizard123, describe how it doesnt work for you and maybe I can get it working for you |
| 23:20.02 | wizard123 | i disagree |
| 23:20.05 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 23:20.08 | PrinceAMD-pc1 | apt-get install ??? for xdmcp? |
| 23:20.13 | GPLGeek | usually it just takes a few aliases and maybe a program or two |
| 23:20.55 | wizard123 | GPLGeek: i need something clean, efficient, bsd-alike, simple in construction with ports |
| 23:21.16 | LinuxNIT | lfs |
| 23:21.22 | wizard123 | so never |
| 23:21.39 | GPLGeek | BSD |
| 23:21.42 | GPLGeek | go ahead |
| 23:21.47 | wizard123 | hehehehe |
| 23:21.49 | GPLGeek | linux and bsd are friends =p we share code. |
| 23:22.15 | wizard123 | i'm freebsd fan |
| 23:22.16 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, not in wizard123's eyes |
| 23:22.16 | wizard123 | but we were looking for linux distro |
| 23:22.25 | wizard123 | not other os |
| 23:22.26 | LinuxNIT | he tried to lead a bsd army here to fight linux |
| 23:22.31 | wizard123 | :] |
| 23:23.05 | wizard123 | i have good news (unofficial, so shhh!): freebsd 6.2-release is available in cvsup :D |
| 23:23.24 | GPLGeek | nice |
| 23:23.30 | GPLGeek | wizard123, im a fan of ports |
| 23:23.39 | GPLGeek | At one time I had a bsd router |
| 23:23.53 | wizard123 | i love ports.. |
| 23:24.11 | wizard123 | soon i'll prepare slackware with netbsd ports |
| 23:24.17 | wizard123 | it will rock :D |
| 23:24.35 | wizard123 | what do you think about it, GPLGeek ? |
| 23:24.58 | wizard123 | linux hardware support, and bsd clean design in one, perfect distro |
| 23:25.00 | GPLGeek | oh ya, we had a slackware with ports on it way back when |
| 23:25.12 | GPLGeek | and it also did some cool packet sniffing |
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| 23:26.37 | GPLGeek | The problem with slackware is the lack of a official 64 bit release |
| 23:27.28 | GPLGeek | generally speaking it has all the software you are going to use on a server already and it stable and secure, and generally the rest of the stuff you would want you would compile anyways. |
| 23:28.03 | wizard123 | hmm.. |
| 23:28.19 | wizard123 | i will need few testers soon |
| 23:28.32 | GPLGeek | check the yellow pages =p |
| 23:28.38 | GPLGeek | im too lazy |
| 23:28.54 | wizard123 | what pages? |
| 23:29.19 | GPLGeek | it was a joke, nm |
| 23:35.03 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 23:35.27 | LinuxNIT | wizard123, the yellow pages is a phone book |
| 23:36.14 | wizard123 | o_O |
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| 23:48.44 | wizard123 | fuck, it does not work |