| 00:00.06 | Zarephath | GPLGeek: Success....however my lcd monitor when set to 1280X768 and using the new nvidia drive scrolls...screen isn't displayed in viewing area of lcd screen..better to use the older nvidia with 3d accel? |
| 00:01.52 | Zarephath | Well 1027X768 worked...wonder what it should be for 1280... |
| 00:02.15 | Zarephath | 1024 that is... |
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| 00:03.48 | Zarephath | Any known issues installing to second hard drive (/dev/hdb) with M$ on the first drive? I also have another distro installed there currently |
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| 00:06.51 | Zarephath | Ok then...no install issues eh? |
| 00:08.30 | Zarephath | GParted has borked out on me...just saying it is scanning all devices... |
| 00:09.34 | Zarephath | Now that is special...cfdisk only sees /dev/hda and not /dev/hdb |
| 00:13.55 | Zarephath | How can I fire up cfdisk from the command line on a live boot? Is it necessary to chroot? |
| 00:15.34 | trog | no, no chroot necesary |
| 00:16.08 | trog | you can open up a terminal, 'sudo su' to make yourself root, and run cfdisk |
| 00:16.17 | Zarephath | trog: Ok thanks |
| 00:16.23 | trog | you can install elive on hdb, if you have a free partition ... |
| 00:16.48 | trog | or if you want, to overwrite the linux distro you have installed ... |
| 00:17.20 | Zarephath | trog: I will have to delete and format the partitions on hdb since there is another distro installed... |
| 00:17.33 | trog | dont need to delete that |
| 00:17.36 | Zarephath | Will sudo -i work as well? |
| 00:17.47 | trog | you can tell the installer to use that partition, and choose a filesystem type |
| 00:17.47 | Zarephath | There are several partitions... |
| 00:17.50 | trog | it will format it ... |
| 00:18.10 | trog | sure, sudo -i also works |
| 00:18.11 | Zarephath | Then just convert out the other partitions after the fact I suppose.. |
| 00:18.37 | Zarephath | Any idea why gparted isn't finding any drives? |
| 00:19.17 | trog | you must know what partition you want to install elive onto. 'fdisk -l' shouts the partition list ...it may also be helpfull to mount each partition, to see what it contains. just to be sure you dont delete important stuff |
| 00:19.51 | trog | gparted ? try 'fdisk -l' to see if it detects all your drives ... |
| 00:23.00 | trog | brb, food |
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| 00:26.58 | Zarephath | trog: Gotta eat as well...will be back shortly...I have it installing now :-) |
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| 00:48.48 | GPLGeek | Zarephath, the "nvidia2" option in the livecd is the newer nvidia driver with 3d that's a good one |
| 00:49.05 | GPLGeek | OR you can go to nvidia.com and build your own |
| 00:49.27 | GPLGeek | if you updated the kernel its likely that the "nvidia2" option/package will not work |
| 00:49.36 | GPLGeek | and you must recompile/install it with headers |
| 00:49.57 | Zarephath | GPLGeek: Nope...just finishing the default install |
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| 00:54.13 | Zarephath | What options will I get if I choose manual versus automatic regarding the debconf step? |
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| 00:55.33 | PrinceAMD | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.40 | Zarephath | Nevermind I can always learn how to use debconf later... |
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| 01:11.49 | Zarephath | See you on the other box in xchat l8r |
| 01:12.03 | Zarephath | Thanks trog,GPLGeek : |
| 01:12.07 | kender_sorpresa | good night |
| 01:13.48 | lib8264q | can someone tell me if there is a work around or how to fix a problem ? |
| 01:14.29 | lib8264q | when i male engage transparent .... botom half of screen goess unsharp |
| 01:14.34 | lib8264q | make* |
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| 01:33.41 | offray_ | Alguién que hable español e inglés al tiempo... esta no es una pregunta relacionada con E, pero ya que el canal es multilenguaje... |
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| 03:40.55 | roxville | ese Mutacion :) |
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| 03:59.39 | Elive_user25 | hello all can someone help with a slight problem |
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| 04:02.14 | roxville | Elive_user25, what's the problem? |
| 04:02.25 | roxville | hi Detox :) |
| 04:02.27 | Detox | hello all |
| 04:02.36 | Elive_user25 | ok i installed elive on hdd |
| 04:03.00 | roxville | ahhhh... |
| 04:03.20 | roxville | that's not a problem... that's a feature :) |
| 04:03.42 | roxville | sorry, i couldn't resist... please continue |
| 04:03.43 | Elive_user25 | but used the control panel to change the keyboard layout to uk from us so i can get sysmbols in terminal .... now cant log onto system at startup |
| 04:04.07 | roxville | ok |
| 04:04.30 | roxville | press ctrl+alt+insert |
| 04:04.37 | roxville | does that open a terminal? |
| 04:05.11 | roxville | oh, darn... you can't start up.. |
| 04:05.12 | Elive_user25 | yes |
| 04:05.21 | Elive_user25 | but only in live cd |
| 04:05.28 | roxville | so you are in live cd mode now... |
| 04:05.58 | roxville | hmmm... where are those key maps... |
| 04:06.10 | Elive_user25 | ok stupid ? how can ik stop the default us keyboard from loading and select uk as default |
| 04:06.23 | Elive_user25 | if i do a reinstal |
| 04:07.05 | roxville | no, you can probably edit xorg.conf |
| 04:08.17 | Elive_user25 | as far as i rem i set it to uk region aS i chose manual setup |
| 04:08.21 | roxville | Section "InputDevice" |
| 04:08.22 | roxville | Identifier"Generic Keyboard" |
| 04:08.22 | roxville | Driver"kbd" |
| 04:08.22 | roxville | Option"CoreKeyboard" |
| 04:08.22 | roxville | Option"XkbRules""xorg" |
| 04:08.22 | roxville | Option"XkbModel""pc105" |
| 04:08.24 | roxville | Option"XkbLayout""us" |
| 04:08.26 | roxville | EndSection |
| 04:08.50 | roxville | scite /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 04:09.07 | Elive_user25 | but terminal window was scrfewed up |
| 04:09.24 | Elive_user25 | symbols where all over the place |
| 04:09.25 | roxville | is the command... but you have to dig a little deeper, and find the one on your hdd, of course |
| 04:10.20 | Elive_user25 | ill reinstall and idot proof myself ;) |
| 04:10.21 | roxville | or, if you JUST installed... yeah, do a reinstall |
| 04:10.39 | roxville | there's probably an easier way to fix it, but i'll be damned if i know |
| 04:10.50 | Elive_user25 | np ... |
| 04:10.53 | roxville | hehe |
| 04:10.59 | roxville | sorry :/ |
| 04:11.26 | Elive_user25 | while your here ... lol |
| 04:11.31 | Elive_user25 | another ? |
| 04:11.34 | roxville | maybe in grub... |
| 04:11.38 | roxville | sure, go ahead |
| 04:12.02 | LinuxNIT | roxville: |
| 04:12.08 | LinuxNIT | did you get the memo? |
| 04:12.16 | roxville | LinuxNIT, |
| 04:12.19 | roxville | no |
| 04:12.29 | LinuxNIT | check your memo server |
| 04:12.42 | LinuxNIT | or i can look it up again |
| 04:13.04 | LinuxNIT | here roxville |
| 04:13.06 | LinuxNIT | http://www.glumbert.com/media/mckee |
| 04:13.10 | roxville | pls do, coz i can never remember the memserv stuff |
| 04:13.51 | Elive_user25 | ok if i enable engage to make it transparent ...botoom half quarter of the screen goes fuzzzy /looks as if its out of focus |
| 04:14.02 | Elive_user25 | ? any ideas |
| 04:16.48 | roxville | Elive_user25, engage module? in e17? |
| 04:16.59 | roxville | LinuxNIT, WOW! |
| 04:17.06 | LinuxNIT | thats me |
| 04:17.10 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 04:17.24 | Elive_user25 | nope the default one thast installed |
| 04:17.51 | LinuxNIT | jk roxville |
| 04:19.54 | Elive_user25 | start it with command engage -b "#00000000" -B "#00000000" |
| 04:21.06 | roxville | Elive_user25, are you using e16 or e17? |
| 04:21.14 | Elive_user25 | e17 |
| 04:21.19 | roxville | ok |
| 04:21.32 | roxville | in e17 you need to use the engage MODULE |
| 04:22.12 | roxville | LinuxNIT, i've seen your sorry ass... you're about half the size of that guy... |
| 04:23.01 | Elive_user25 | hmmm ...... |
| 04:23.54 | roxville | Elive_user25, open synaptic, go to the elive section and find "enlightenment-modules" or something like that...it's a package with a bunch of them |
| 04:23.54 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:23.54 | roxville | then enable it in the desktop menu |
| 04:23.58 | LinuxNIT | engage-module |
| 04:24.06 | LinuxNIT | i think |
| 04:24.37 | roxville | is it by itself? |
| 04:24.44 | roxville | ok |
| 04:25.21 | Elive_user25 | engage-module ? |
| 04:26.02 | LinuxNIT | i thought so |
| 04:26.16 | LinuxNIT | it shouldnt be hard to find in synaptic |
| 04:26.48 | roxville | apt-get install engage-module |
| 04:26.57 | LinuxNIT | dont for get to apt-get update |
| 04:26.57 | roxville | i just found it in synaptic |
| 04:27.03 | Elive_user25 | yep installed but dont see in modules ??????? |
| 04:27.17 | LinuxNIT | restart E |
| 04:27.27 | LinuxNIT | just E not the computer |
| 04:28.35 | roxville | LinuxNIT, that guy used an open tuning on the guitar... so it's a LITTLE easier to accomplish what he did... |
| 04:28.56 | roxville | but it's pretty f**king amazing... |
| 04:29.14 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 04:29.31 | LinuxNIT | my sis and i are thinking of ordering his cd |
| 04:29.41 | LinuxNIT | click on his name it takes you to his site |
| 04:29.48 | roxville | ok |
| 04:30.13 | LinuxNIT | have you heard about these new sandisk flash type drives for laptops? |
| 04:30.25 | roxville | i gotta hit that sack, but i'll leave it open and check in the morning |
| 04:30.37 | LinuxNIT | still kind of expensive but they sound amazing |
| 04:30.40 | roxville | hmmm... i believe i DID read something about them, yes... |
| 04:32.31 | roxville | it'll take a couple years, probably, before they come down in price... |
| 04:32.52 | LinuxNIT | yeah but when they do it will be pretty nice |
| 04:33.44 | roxville | yep |
| 04:34.03 | Elive_user25 | hmmm what size are the drives ? |
| 04:34.32 | LinuxNIT | only about 30 gigs at the moment |
| 04:34.46 | LinuxNIT | but they are almost everlasting |
| 04:34.55 | Elive_user25 | lol id hate to see the prices |
| 04:35.24 | LinuxNIT | i saw one article said 300 and another said 600 |
| 04:35.45 | Elive_user25 | hmm |
| 04:36.03 | Elive_user25 | i think ill pass lol |
| 04:36.06 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 04:36.10 | LinuxNIT | ill wait too |
| 04:36.15 | roxville | hehe, yeah...damn, that's expensive... |
| 04:36.31 | roxville | but yeah, the possibilities...are amazing |
| 04:36.32 | LinuxNIT | well actually.... |
| 04:36.43 | LinuxNIT | what would it cost to by 30 1 gig flash drives? |
| 04:37.05 | LinuxNIT | and these are all combined into one ;) |
| 04:37.17 | Elive_user25 | i gought a tiny 2gb for about 25 uk pounds but its tiny .... |
| 04:37.18 | roxville | yeah, but who in their right mind would do THAT? |
| 04:37.34 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:37.36 | Elive_user25 | 2mm thick |
| 04:37.45 | Elive_user25 | 43mm long |
| 04:38.09 | roxville | yeah, i have a 1GB SD card from sandisk for my field recorder |
| 04:38.21 | roxville | for $25 |
| 04:38.32 | LinuxNIT | really? |
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| 04:38.34 | LinuxNIT | nice |
| 04:38.37 | roxville | the 2GB one was more that i had, atm |
| 04:38.40 | LinuxNIT | prices are dropping |
| 04:39.17 | roxville | it was on sale at radio shack, but online you can find great deals...even on 4GB ones now |
| 04:39.35 | LinuxNIT | any way these drives are supposed to be incredibly fast... not crash and last for a looooong time |
| 04:39.35 | roxville | prob is, not many cameras and such, support the 4GB ones yet |
| 04:39.47 | LinuxNIT | but.... i have to study now.... |
| 04:39.48 | Elive_user25 | lol |
| 04:39.51 | LinuxNIT | so yall have fun |
| 04:40.02 | roxville | yeah, i gotta get in bed |
| 04:40.03 | LinuxNIT | just not too much fun without me |
| 04:40.17 | roxville | Elive_user25, if you're in the uk...you're an early riser... |
| 04:40.17 | LinuxNIT | and Elive_user25 welcome to #elive ;) |
| 04:40.33 | roxville | or a night-owl |
| 04:40.46 | Elive_user25 | ill take that one lol |
| 04:40.50 | roxville | lol |
| 04:41.33 | roxville | ok, i gotta get in bed... |
| 04:41.52 | roxville | Elive_user25, i hope the modlue works better for ya |
| 04:41.54 | Elive_user25 | if i reinstall is there a switch that i can use to chose hte uk keyboard |
| 04:42.01 | Elive_user25 | ? |
| 04:42.23 | roxville | engage works in gnome, xfce and others as long as you have the right libs installed... but NOT in e17 |
| 04:43.01 | roxville | if you install erme you can set key-combinations for a lot of stuff |
| 04:43.21 | Elive_user25 | ill re-install |
| 04:43.29 | Elive_user25 | see what happens |
| 04:43.36 | roxville | this will be much easier when elive's dev finally starts including the "new" e17 version by default |
| 04:44.17 | roxville | but he doesn't like it...yet |
| 04:44.35 | roxville | but the config menus are MUCH better |
| 04:44.36 | Elive_user25 | np ... thanks and sorry for taking up your time :) |
| 04:44.45 | roxville | no problem :) |
| 04:44.52 | roxville | sorry i couldn't help more |
| 04:45.06 | roxville | and like LinuxNIT said... welcome to elive :) |
| 04:45.13 | roxville | it's a great distro |
| 04:45.39 | roxville | with only one dev, but ... he's a good one |
| 04:46.03 | roxville | on vaca right now, he'll be back in early feb...we hope... he went to cuba |
| 04:46.15 | roxville | ok, over and out... |
| 04:46.23 | Elive_user25 | :) |
| 04:47.07 | roxville | btw, when he gets back...let's say by mid-february, you can install the test version of the new e17... and see for your self |
| 04:47.29 | roxville | only drawback is... engage module doesn't work at all with it |
| 04:48.03 | roxville | but... LinuxNIT found a way to make ibar act ALMOST like engage |
| 04:48.04 | Mutacion | hooOOOoooOoooOOola!!!!!!! |
| 04:48.13 | roxville | hi Mutacion :) |
| 04:48.20 | roxville | been drinking again? :D |
| 04:48.24 | Mutacion | qiubole rox!!! ji |
| 04:48.28 | Elive_user25 | thats cool .. i was looking for an alternitive for this old lappy as get past its esell by date ... this o/s runns pretty quick on it |
| 04:48.35 | Mutacion | noup.. been playing with the snow jojo |
| 04:48.43 | roxville | hehe |
| 04:49.06 | roxville | yeah, elive is a GREAT way to kick life back into old HW |
| 04:49.22 | roxville | Mutacion, make a snow angel from me...it's raining here... no snow |
| 04:49.28 | roxville | ok, good night guys :) |
| 04:49.47 | Elive_user25 | night :) |
| 04:49.55 | roxville | oh... maybe for future use... |
| 04:49.58 | Elive_user25 | not to bad here |
| 04:50.05 | roxville | http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=elive07box8pg9.png |
| 04:50.13 | Elive_user25 | where i am rain is normal lol |
| 04:50.20 | roxville | hope thana likes it... |
| 04:50.27 | roxville | lol |
| 04:52.40 | Elive_user25 | cool its like having a mac but not paying the stupid prices for ;) |
| 04:53.31 | Mutacion | hehe i prefer snow..well i also luv rain.. but it not snow very often down here |
| 04:54.22 | Elive_user25 | i use them on my course and i hate them with a vengence |
| 04:54.46 | Elive_user25 | sorry i just cant get used to them :S |
| 04:56.47 | Elive_user25 | anyhow time to rte-install |
| 04:57.03 | Elive_user25 | by all nice talking |
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| 05:45.01 | Pacma | buenos dias |
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| 07:39.57 | adLucem | Good morning everyone, |
| 07:40.34 | adLucem | do you know how i can view (and edit as root) files from another install? |
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| 12:54.53 | wizard123 | hi! |
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| 12:57.35 | wizard123 | i'm e powered too |
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| 16:08.22 | Zarephath | How is everyone? |
| 16:08.55 | offray_ | fine thanks |
| 16:09.03 | kender_sorpresa | Hello pple |
| 16:09.28 | Zarephath | I'm really enjoying elive with e17. Just installed last night :-) |
| 16:09.52 | Zarephath | Hi kender_sorpresa |
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| 16:11.40 | offray_ | It's really awesome, but I can't find myself confortable without the drag & drop configuration of Rox Filer, so I dropped E for a while |
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| 16:13.09 | Zarephath | offray_, Did you change back to e16 or something else? |
| 16:13.38 | Pacma | buenos dias |
| 16:13.58 | offray_ | Nop. I'm using Xfce + Rox. Not all the special effects of E17, but it's more ergonomic to me |
| 16:14.05 | Zarephath | hola como le va |
| 16:14.57 | Zarephath | My first experience with e17...Waiting for Yellowdog Linux to release their PPC version so I can get Linux on my other box. |
| 16:17.41 | Zarephath | Question...I am issuing a sudo apt-get update...was prompted for the password gave it..then get a permission denied...is elive not using sudo? I know how to switch to superuser.. |
| 16:18.35 | Zarephath | That is fscked...can't get sudo -i to prompt for a password |
| 16:19.01 | offray_ | you can use "sudo sh" then the root password |
| 16:19.20 | LinuxNIT | i dont think that elive uses sudo after the install |
| 16:19.27 | LinuxNIT | you would have to set sudo up |
| 16:19.30 | Zarephath | offray_, Is this normal behavior though? |
| 16:19.35 | Zarephath | LinuxNIT, Ahhh...ok |
| 16:19.49 | LinuxNIT | one way to know for sure is to look in the /etc/sudoers |
| 16:20.23 | Zarephath | LinuxNIT: Yessir...however I just su'ed so I presume it is missing... |
| 16:22.20 | Zarephath | Ok...I am wondering if there are other repositories that I need to add? For extra packages? |
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| 16:23.32 | LinuxNIT | Zarephath: what kind of extra packages? |
| 16:24.06 | LinuxNIT | you have full debian repos, the multimedia repos and the elive(which has e17) repos. |
| 16:24.12 | LinuxNIT | im not sure what else you want ;) |
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| 16:24.40 | kender_sorpresa | porn-get rulez! |
| 16:24.47 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 16:25.01 | LinuxNIT | well i gtg to school.... later guys |
| 16:25.04 | LinuxNIT | have fun |
| 16:25.31 | Zarephath | LinuxNIT: Ok thanks |
| 16:26.51 | Zarephath | What is the keystroke sequence to paste into a term from something copied from broswer,text file,etc.? |
| 16:29.01 | offray_ | you can use middle button of the mouse |
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| 16:33.30 | kender_sorpresa | shift+insert |
| 16:43.55 | Zarephath | kender_sorpresa: thanks |
| 16:44.18 | Zarephath | What about clearing the history in the terminal? |
| 16:45.03 | kender_sorpresa | rm .bash_history |
| 16:45.52 | Zarephath | Ok..I was asking like ctrl-k in some distros do that for ya.. |
| 16:46.58 | Zarephath | Is there something as well about how to get the temp monitor working? Mine says NO TEMP...I changed it to Fahrenheit |
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| 17:11.58 | Zarephath_Away | Anyone setup the desktop rss feed with e17? I am looking at the docs on the wiki..but it isn't detailed on what to do other than make sure e-modulese is installed? |
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| 17:15.21 | Elive_user27 | Boa tarde, alguem do Brasil? |
| 17:17.43 | Gwildor | Zarephath_Away, left click, go to configure, modules, then enable and configure the app |
| 17:18.23 | Zarephath_Away | Gwildor: Yep was just there...however how do I get the different feed boxes to drag to new position...Thank you for the reply |
| 17:19.41 | Zarephath_Away | Nevermind..starting to get the picture...put it in edit mode :-O |
| 17:19.58 | Gwildor | right click on them....configure |
| 17:20.03 | Gwildor | yeah, edit mode :P |
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| 17:26.41 | Zarephath_Away | Gwildor: I am having a problem finding out how to add like slashdot as a feed? Do you know? |
| 17:26.56 | Gwildor | no idea... i dont use that module, i jsut loaded it up to helo you. |
| 17:27.01 | Gwildor | i can take a look, gimme a min |
| 17:27.28 | Zarephath | Gwildor: Thanks |
| 17:29.45 | Gwildor | Zarephath, right click on the one you want to edit.. |
| 17:30.03 | Gwildor | <this devian>>><configure> |
| 17:30.11 | Zarephath | And do what..I didn't see an option to alter the feed URL |
| 17:30.22 | Gwildor | this devian >> configure |
| 17:30.23 | Zarephath | ahh...ok just a sec...thanks a lot |
| 17:32.07 | Gwildor | Zarephath, got it? |
| 17:32.54 | Zarephath | Yep...sorry sometimes get lost exploring.. |
| 17:33.08 | Gwildor | lol, NP, jsut wanted to be sure i could disable the module |
| 17:33.19 | Gwildor | the more i sue E17, the more i fall in love with it |
| 17:33.21 | Gwildor | USE |
| 17:33.35 | Zarephath | Do you know what I might try to get my temp module to display the temp? It just says NO TEMP |
| 17:33.51 | Gwildor | no idea, its probably some kernel module or something |
| 17:33.57 | Gwildor | i disable that module.. |
| 17:34.05 | Zarephath | I have as well... |
| 17:34.06 | Gwildor | lemme check to be sure its not something easy |
| 17:34.22 | Gwildor | no, its seems not.. |
| 17:34.28 | Gwildor | ive NEVER been interested in those.. |
| 17:34.30 | Zarephath | I would have thought that it would be enabled default since it shows up on startup.. |
| 17:34.34 | Gwildor | so, im not really sure how they work/ check |
| 17:34.48 | Gwildor | it loads anyways.. |
| 17:34.51 | Zarephath | OK maybe I will run across it on the wiki |
| 17:34.59 | Gwildor | battery module loads @ default.... and....this is a desktop :P |
| 17:35.11 | Zarephath | Thanks Gwildor...yep mine did too.. |
| 17:36.09 | Zarephath | I am anxiously awaiting YellowDog to release their PPC version..it uses e17 as well...then I can have two machines using e |
| 17:36.20 | Gwildor | :D |
| 17:36.27 | Gwildor | i only have a 333mhz PPC |
| 17:36.38 | Zarephath | Better than none at all ;-) |
| 17:37.00 | Zarephath | I have an old G4 1ghz dual |
| 17:37.07 | Gwildor | GIVE ME ! |
| 17:37.07 | Gwildor | :P |
| 17:37.37 | Zarephath | It runs like a bat out of hell with Ubuntu and smp kernel installed... |
| 17:37.50 | wizard123 | ubuntu, yuck |
| 17:37.56 | wizard123 | hi all |
| 17:38.09 | Zarephath | wizard123: Yep I have to concur after using elive |
| 17:38.11 | Gwildor | hehe, you might get yelled at for talking about ubuntu here :P |
| 17:38.22 | wizard123 | ;) |
| 17:38.29 | wizard123 | elive doesnot have ppc port |
| 17:38.30 | Zarephath | I have noticed that in the short time I was here last night and today... |
| 17:39.19 | Zarephath | wizard123: we are aware of that...I was saying that my dual 1ghz mac wants to have yellowdog 5 with e17 installed..it isn't released yet though |
| 17:39.31 | wizard123 | :] |
| 17:39.44 | wizard123 | better install gentoo :D |
| 17:40.09 | wizard123 | ;] |
| 17:40.10 | wizard123 | [;l |
| 17:40.26 | Zarephath | Gwildor: So I assume you have a imac? I had a grape that was a 333...first mac I owned and I loved it... |
| 17:40.40 | Gwildor | yup, grape imac, 333mhz w/ dvd |
| 17:40.59 | Gwildor | Zarephath, i also have a first gen imac. (tray load) |
| 17:41.01 | wizard123 | :] |
| 17:41.16 | Gwildor | like a 133 :P |
| 17:41.30 | Zarephath | wizard123: I am not opposed to gentoo except for the following...PPC help is just about non-existant and it takes forever to get it installed |
| 17:41.43 | wizard123 | yeah |
| 17:41.45 | Gwildor | and its a giant waste of time |
| 17:41.47 | Zarephath | Gwildor: Wow that is a ways back |
| 17:41.59 | Gwildor | Zarephath, :P |
| 17:43.31 | Zarephath | Either one of you know how to change the default comma when hitting tab to reply to a user? I don't care for the comma...prefer the colon.. |
| 17:43.43 | Gwildor | in xchat preferences... |
| 17:43.47 | Gwildor | somewhere :P |
| 17:43.52 | Zarephath | heheh |
| 17:43.58 | Gwildor | preferences |
| 17:44.01 | Gwildor | input bar |
| 17:44.06 | Gwildor | name completion suffix |
| 17:44.10 | Gwildor | Zarephath, |
| 17:44.19 | Gwildor | Zarephath: |
| 17:44.21 | Gwildor | see :D |
| 17:44.38 | Zarephath | Gwildor: Ummm.yeah |
| 17:44.42 | Gwildor | :D |
| 17:44.59 | Zarephath | Amazing what you can find when you look huh? |
| 17:45.20 | Gwildor | :P |
| 17:46.27 | Zarephath | Gwildor: Was that text events I edit in Xchat to change my default text color? |
| 17:46.44 | Gwildor | repeat the question |
| 17:47.20 | Zarephath | I don't care for the default color of gray I see when I type to you and it echoes back in the window..I want to change that... |
| 17:47.27 | Gwildor | oh, ok, 1 second |
| 17:47.40 | Zarephath | settings advanced --> ?? |
| 17:47.54 | Gwildor | setting . preferences . colors |
| 17:48.06 | Gwildor | change color #16 to whatever color you want.. |
| 17:48.17 | Gwildor | then change 'foreground' to match that color... should fix it |
| 17:49.01 | Gwildor | test |
| 17:49.19 | Gwildor | or, maybe #31 |
| 17:49.21 | Gwildor | ill BRB.. |
| 17:49.24 | Gwildor | smokebreak |
| 17:49.44 | Zarephath | test |
| 17:49.58 | Zarephath | Gwildor: That changed your text color..heh |
| 17:50.19 | Gwildor | oh...ooops |
| 17:50.23 | Gwildor | its been a long while... |
| 17:50.35 | Gwildor | try changing color #31, and change 'forground' back to what it was then |
| 17:50.56 | wizard123 | :] |
| 17:51.12 | Zarephath | test |
| 17:51.16 | wizard123 | test |
| 17:51.39 | Zarephath | I am thinking it was under the advanced text options.. |
| 17:52.26 | Zarephath | clear |
| 17:52.39 | Zarephath | When in doubt google... |
| 17:52.44 | Zarephath | brb |
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| 18:05.28 | Zarephath | Gwildor: I am off for the ice storm in Houston,TX...kewl eh? |
| 18:08.45 | Gwildor | ewww, GL |
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| 18:26.30 | Zarephath | test |
| 18:29.10 | Zarephath | test again |
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| 18:30.00 | Zarephath | hmm |
| 18:30.09 | Zarephath | Got it..hehe |
| 18:30.45 | Gwildor | :D |
| 18:32.08 | Zarephath | Ok that is much better ;-) |
| 18:33.01 | Gwildor | what clor was it? |
| 18:33.05 | Gwildor | woa woa |
| 18:33.09 | Gwildor | <Gwildor> what clor was it |
| 18:33.11 | Gwildor | hmm |
| 18:33.18 | Gwildor | it was like, half white, half grey :P |
| 18:33.28 | Zarephath | It is under settings/advanced/user text/your message, then change the values preceded by the letter C |
| 18:34.33 | Gwildor | oh, i always did it thru the .... preference/colors area |
| 18:34.55 | Zarephath | Gwildor: Perhaps you can help me understand what the how the $ variables work though...I thought at first I needed to change like $2 to a correpsponding color number value..however it I am now unsure what values are associated with the list at the bottom? |
| 18:35.18 | Gwildor | i have |
| 18:35.19 | Gwildor | no |
| 18:35.22 | Gwildor | idea |
| 18:35.25 | Zarephath | ideaq |
| 18:35.28 | Zarephath | heh |
| 18:35.30 | Gwildor | :P |
| 18:35.44 | Zarephath | did the colors change back on your end too? |
| 18:36.06 | Gwildor | huh? |
| 18:36.11 | Gwildor | colors never changed on my end.. |
| 18:36.16 | Gwildor | it was jsut a litlte 'glitch' |
| 18:36.28 | Zarephath | Ok just wanted to make sure I didn't do something really inventive...heh |
| 18:36.33 | Gwildor | :P |
| 18:36.44 | Gwildor | nah, those are local setting you were changing |
| 18:36.55 | Gwildor | BOLD |
| 18:37.12 | Gwildor | 11111 tEST |
| 18:37.17 | Gwildor | wonderful |
| 18:37.26 | Gwildor | 2 TEST |
| 18:37.32 | Gwildor | 3TEST |
| 18:37.36 | Gwildor | 4TEST |
| 18:37.40 | Gwildor | 5TEST |
| 18:37.44 | Gwildor | 6TEST |
| 18:37.48 | Gwildor | 7TEST |
| 18:37.51 | Gwildor | 8TEST |
| 18:37.55 | Gwildor | 9TEST |
| 18:37.58 | Gwildor | 0TEST |
| 18:38.02 | Gwildor | you see those colors? |
| 18:39.08 | Zarephath | Yes |
| 18:40.03 | Gwildor | (ctrl+k)+(1-0)+(message)+(ctrl+k[to end color]) |
| 18:58.41 | Zarephath | Ok.. |
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| 19:13.11 | Zarephath | Gwildor: Do you know how I can make my hidden folders visible in firefox when downloading wallpapers and such? Would be nice to just save them to the folder... |
| 19:13.56 | Gwildor | no idea.. |
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| 19:48.40 | Pacma | buenas noches nos vemos mas tarde |
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| 20:47.43 | Zarephath | Whats up? |
| 20:49.45 | Gwildor | o/ |
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| 21:00.06 | Zarephath | Wow the more I get into elive the more awesome it becomes...I just discovered streamtuner! :-O |
| 21:00.47 | trog | try zynaddsubfx :) |
| 21:01.14 | trog | open the virtual keyboard, and select an instrument ... :) |
| 21:01.37 | Zarephath | trog: Hey...do I have to install the package? |
| 21:01.50 | trog | no, its installed by default ...you can find it in audio |
| 21:02.23 | Zarephath | Nevermind...should have learned...look first ask second...right Gwildor? |
| 21:02.41 | Zarephath | Will it do guitar too trog? |
| 21:03.01 | Gwildor | :D |
| 21:03.08 | trog | no guitar...piano |
| 21:03.17 | Gwildor | guitar is probably addable, somehow |
| 21:03.20 | trog | you can use the keaboard to play piano ... |
| 21:03.46 | Zarephath | Ahh..will check it out later...I opened it and my cpu went to 50% |
| 21:04.16 | Gwildor | lol, should settle down after its fully loaded |
| 21:06.22 | Zarephath | Ok so I looked first...where does Streamtuner default to saving the files when invoking streamripper? |
| 21:08.52 | Zarephath | Oh hell..I will just quit asking..this frickin' distro is just too easy... |
| 21:09.32 | Zarephath | I believe that may be my issue...I am too used to digging around for details rather than just having the linxu distro handle it for me...lol |
| 21:10.14 | Zarephath | Gwildor: You in the US? |
| 21:10.21 | Gwildor | yes |
| 21:11.29 | Gwildor | smokebreak. |
| 21:11.40 | Zarephath | k |
| 21:15.30 | Zarephath | I am wondering how to find out the user id for my ntfs usb drive? I see it in Thunar, but it won't let me access it. I will probably have to use umask to get it to work, but wonder how this would be done since it isn't using fstab for the information? |
| 21:21.05 | Gwildor | not sure, never figured that outmyself either.. |
| 21:21.10 | Gwildor | jsut...never got around to it |
| 21:21.19 | Gwildor | i only sue elive @ work.... got busy on other shit |
| 21:21.23 | Gwildor | use |
| 21:22.40 | Gwildor | though, my thumbdrives are fat |
| 21:22.51 | Gwildor | i avoid ntfs whereever possible |
| 21:24.30 | Zarephath | Man I hate it when I forget something like this... |
| 21:26.12 | Zarephath | Gwildor: Is there a user manager installed for elive default? |
| 21:26.25 | Zarephath | I looked under preferences, and didn't see it |
| 21:31.34 | Zarephath | In other words I don't see a way to edit existing users |
| 21:33.40 | Gwildor | elpanel |
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| 21:33.51 | Gwildor | far right of the doc on the bottom |
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| 21:36.09 | Zarephath | Gwildor: Nope..I don't see an option to edit user..either create or delete |
| 21:36.15 | Gwildor | plz hold |
| 21:37.15 | Gwildor | launch elpanel, admin and system preferences (right side), then users |
| 21:39.05 | Zarephath | wait one |
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| 21:40.15 | Zarephath | I only have an option to "Add a new user", or "Delete an user"? |
| 21:40.29 | GROOVE | Boa noite, algum Brasileiro? |
| 21:40.46 | Zarephath | No...habla espanol? |
| 21:40.58 | GROOVE | Pouco. |
| 21:41.05 | Gwildor | what....are you looking to do then? |
| 21:41.37 | GROOVE | Quero ajuda para instalar firefox 2.0 |
| 21:41.57 | trog | <Zarephath> Gwildor: Nope..I don't see an option to edit user..either create or delete |
| 21:41.58 | Zarephath | Gwildor: Problem is that I want to add my user to the root group...man groups points me to info groups which doesn't have the texinfo file I presume since I get the same information as the man page |
| 21:42.00 | trog | <Zarephath> I only have an option to "Add a new user", or "Delete an user"? |
| 21:42.11 | Zarephath | trog: |
| 21:42.28 | Zarephath | GROOVE: momento |
| 21:42.48 | Zarephath | trog: ? |
| 21:43.04 | trog | Zarephath: edit /etc/groups |
| 21:43.08 | trog | as root ... |
| 21:43.22 | Zarephath | Ok..I was asking if there isn't a gui interface for doing this? |
| 21:43.31 | trog | i dont know ... |
| 21:44.27 | Zarephath | Ok will do it the regular way then... |
| 21:44.31 | Zarephath | Thanks |
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| 21:44.57 | Zarephath | Is there a package available for Firefox 2.0 vie repo? Groove needs help installing ver 2.0 |
| 21:45.03 | Zarephath | via* |
| 21:45.46 | Zarephath | GROOVE: Por que tienes que usar Firefox 2.0? |
| 21:47.23 | GROOVE | Preciso sber a versão 2.0 irá rodar adequadamente um sistema web que trabalho, já que a versão anterior não funciona adequadamente. |
| 21:47.41 | Zarephath | GROOVE: Ahh... |
| 21:48.53 | Zarephath | GROOVE: Pues es posible si continua con installacion de version 2.0 va a quebrar elive |
| 21:49.37 | GROOVE | Por que? |
| 21:49.39 | Zarephath | IS there a howto for installing version 2.0 of firefox trog, Gwildor? |
| 21:50.03 | Gwildor | no, idea.. |
| 21:50.09 | Gwildor | never bothered |
| 21:50.15 | GROOVE | Há conflito com o elive e firefox? |
| 21:51.07 | trog | http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/80445-howto-install-firefox-2-various-plugins-debian-etch.html |
| 21:51.19 | Zarephath | GROOVE: Es contra direcciones de elive...No se seguro...direcciones se recomenda no instalar programs que no son en repository |
| 21:51.40 | Zarephath | No estoy* seguro...lo siento GROOVE |
| 21:52.13 | GROOVE | Ok, tanks. |
| 21:52.17 | Zarephath | Sure |
| 21:53.00 | Zarephath | GROOVE: A leer este: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/80445-howto-install-firefox-2-various-plugins-debian-etch.html |
| 21:53.23 | Zarephath | Si necisita se puede traducir lo... |
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| 21:54.17 | GROOVE | Vou ler, tanks again. |
| 21:54.18 | Zarephath | Man my Spanish sucks! |
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| 21:54.37 | Zarephath | GROOVE: No hay problema....buena suerte |
| 21:55.02 | GROOVE | And my english is one shit :-) |
| 21:55.40 | GROOVE | But tanks for help, i try read url. |
| 21:56.23 | Zarephath | GROOVE: Pero estoy empezando hablar/entender mejor! Practica es lo que yo necesito.. |
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| 21:57.18 | Zarephath | GROOVE: Es mas correcto decir " And my english is shit :-)) |
| 21:57.21 | GROOVE | And i need praticle english. |
| 21:57.31 | Zarephath | *practice* |
| 21:57.33 | GROOVE | ok, tanks rsrsrr |
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| 21:57.42 | Zarephath | que vaya bien |
| 21:57.58 | revdjenk | and my espanol is pooh pooh |
| 21:58.06 | revdjenk | :) |
| 21:58.22 | revdjenk | or portuguese |
| 21:58.46 | Zarephath | revdjenk: Mine too on both counts... ;-) |
| 21:58.53 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 21:59.05 | revdjenk | and I even speak less linux |
| 21:59.12 | revdjenk | still too new at all this |
| 21:59.41 | GROOVE | I leaving, goodbye folks. |
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| 23:01.11 | Zarephath | Where is GPLgeek when I need him... |
| 23:01.31 | Zarephath | Anyone know why elive might not see my shared windows printer? |
| 23:03.11 | PrinceAMD | hi |
| 23:08.12 | Zarephath | PrinceAMD: Howdy |
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| 23:17.07 | GPLGeek | http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20070117.html |
| 23:18.57 | GPLGeek | The microsoft dev came in today with a new laptop running linux. I said "You dont use the software you make?" and he said "I make my own shit but I dont use it as fertilizer" |
| 23:19.17 | GPLGeek | he's funny |
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| 23:40.45 | Zarephath | GPLGeek: Hey how goes it? |
| 23:41.08 | GPLGeek | So I finish coding a patch for about 2100 lines of code , slim it down from 4000 lines, and add about 300 other lines of documentation and function protocols....>Then I get a notice an hour later from the tracker that the scripts and binaries I was wroking on are going to be obsoleted.... |
| 23:41.15 | GPLGeek | that's how it goes |
| 23:41.34 | Zarephath | GPLGeek: That IS fscked |
| 23:41.35 | GPLGeek | on top of that I just got off of work and it wasnt fun |
| 23:41.41 | GPLGeek | yep |
| 23:41.49 | GPLGeek | from bash to mono.net conversion |
| 23:42.03 | GPLGeek | i wont do that |
| 23:42.19 | GPLGeek | I think they are using python .net now. |
| 23:43.32 | Zarephath | GPLGeek: You have time to help me figure out why elive isn't seeing the shared printer on my wifes WinXP machine? LinNeighborhood sees the machine after query. It just doesn't show any shares, including the printer. BTW sorry your day is sucking.. |
| 23:44.08 | GPLGeek | ok first step is to pop a cap in the windowsxp servers ass |
| 23:44.17 | Zarephath | HEheheh |
| 23:44.17 | GPLGeek | then unplug the printer and put it on the linux machine! |
| 23:44.21 | GPLGeek | lets see |
| 23:44.26 | GPLGeek | are you in the same workgroup? |
| 23:44.59 | GPLGeek | often times windows will not allow you to see the printers if not on the same workgroup or if you are not in broadcast range, IE both on the same router/hub |
| 23:45.07 | Zarephath | Well I don't have samba installed in elive as from my reading it shouldn't be necessary just smbmount/smbumount/smbfs and something else |
| 23:45.21 | GPLGeek | well you can type the absoloute path to the printer |
| 23:45.23 | GPLGeek | and it will work |
| 23:45.28 | GPLGeek | if you can see the system and transfer files |
| 23:45.29 | Zarephath | That is not the case..elive is on the same router with a dhcp assigned ip |
| 23:45.49 | Zarephath | That is the issue it sees the machine...but no shared dirs either.. |
| 23:47.00 | GPLGeek | other than "seeing" it in lineighborhood can you mount them? |
| 23:47.05 | GPLGeek | with absoloute paths? |
| 23:47.10 | Zarephath | lemme guess....smb://username:password@WORKGROUP/share? |
| 23:47.35 | Zarephath | Oh sorry..I haven't tried mounting them no... |
| 23:47.45 | GPLGeek | im going to have to start some virtual machines and test whats going on |
| 23:48.17 | Zarephath | Just a sec and I'll be able to answer your query |
| 23:49.53 | GPLGeek | it may be useful to panic too... often times when flailing your arms about in the air and crying helps these types of situations. |
| 23:52.13 | Zarephath | WTF: What is this bitch trying to connect to this ip for? 208.67.219.41:445 |
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| 23:52.55 | Zarephath | mount -t smbfs -o username=vivek,password=D1W4×9sw //ntserver/download /mnt/ntserver here is an example of my command |
| 23:53.55 | Zarephath | GPLGeek: Now that wouldn't solve anything would it...nor will cursing the linux box...it isn't the fault of elive that windows is stupid now is it? |
| 23:54.45 | GPLGeek | Zarephath, strange Mine's not really working |
| 23:55.13 | Zarephath | GPLGeek: Ermm...huh? |
| 23:55.42 | GPLGeek | can't query host |
| 23:55.48 | Zarephath | Ahh |
| 23:56.33 | Zarephath | I wish I could just find a good cheap inkjet that is linux supported out of the box...most I have seen are old.. |
| 23:56.50 | Zarephath | that work natively with driver support in linux that is |
| 23:57.28 | GPLGeek | Brother makes them |
| 23:57.35 | GPLGeek | brother is the brand name |
| 23:57.45 | Zarephath | Really..wonder where I might find brother printers sold locally |
| 23:57.51 | GPLGeek | the ink lasts a LONG time |
| 23:57.58 | GPLGeek | which saves you in the end |
| 23:58.00 | Zarephath | I presume you are in the US? |
| 23:58.10 | GPLGeek | ya |
| 23:58.24 | Zarephath | Indeed...how about replacement cost for cartridges? |
| 23:58.53 | GPLGeek | no clue |
| 23:59.00 | GPLGeek | just know they are rated higher |
| 23:59.12 | GPLGeek | I think there are some HP printers too |
| 23:59.15 | GPLGeek | that support |
| 23:59.48 | Zarephath | The only real issue I see with that is that I don't know of a lot of the more common stores that sell brother..so cartridge replacement might become an issue |
