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| 00:05.43 | *** join/#elive lib8264q (n=dontcare@88-109-57-251.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 00:06.55 | lib8264q | hello :) |
| 00:08.42 | PrinceAMD | hi |
| 00:08.52 | PrinceAMD | lib8264q hello |
| 00:09.11 | lib8264q | sorry hello :) |
| 00:09.18 | lib8264q | hows you today ? |
| 00:09.45 | SuperpeZ | buenas noches a tod@s |
| 00:10.05 | PrinceAMD | lib8264q, my days was good |
| 00:10.10 | PrinceAMD | who about yours |
| 00:10.18 | lib8264q | did you break up with your girl ? |
| 00:10.33 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 00:10.34 | PrinceAMD | no |
| 00:10.40 | PrinceAMD | we're still together |
| 00:10.42 | lib8264q | ah ok lol |
| 00:10.54 | PrinceAMD | she calls when she needs me |
| 00:11.06 | PrinceAMD | it's messed up but ok |
| 00:11.18 | lib8264q | cool |
| 00:12.59 | *** part/#elive SuperpeZ (n=SuperpeZ@231.Red-88-9-77.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 00:17.18 | lib8264q | anyone any good with boot options during the install of elive ? |
| 00:21.35 | PrinceAMD | lib8264q, i only use default |
| 00:21.42 | *** join/#elive barbatron (n=Barbatro@a14124.upc-a.chello.nl) |
| 00:21.50 | lib8264q | yea as do most |
| 00:22.18 | lib8264q | just trying to cut out some work |
| 00:23.37 | PrinceAMD | ok work on what? |
| 00:26.07 | lib8264q | im trying to put in a uk gb keyboard as when i do remap it in the control panel password for logging onto system is wrong as evewn though i ytell it to select english gb during setup its playing funny bugger and reverting back to us locaalsl |
| 00:26.15 | lib8264q | local* |
| 00:27.20 | lib8264q | so thought there was something i could put in the boot options to select en_gb |
| 00:28.48 | PrinceAMD | there is an a command like dpkg-reconfigure keymap but i dont know if "keymap" is the option |
| 00:29.39 | lib8264q | yea but if i do that its back to keyboard in terminal being right .... logon password being wrong .... |
| 00:30.13 | PrinceAMD | ok do that then create another user under the keymap |
| 00:30.25 | PrinceAMD | under that keymap and see if that works |
| 00:31.05 | lib8264q | oh that will work iv done that but just wonder why cant be done on initial install |
| 00:31.16 | PrinceAMD | idk |
| 00:31.26 | PrinceAMD | atleast it can be solved |
| 00:32.14 | lib8264q | :) |
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| 00:43.27 | GPLGeek | Everyone needs to log in with english, then change the username/password and then login as another language |
| 00:43.35 | GPLGeek | make a new account if you need to |
| 00:43.39 | GPLGeek | also |
| 00:44.51 | GPLGeek | you can as root passwd other users |
| 00:45.22 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, yea.... i figured, by the way, how have u been? |
| 00:45.43 | GPLGeek | I've been tired... after work every day going out and looking for new jobs |
| 00:45.58 | PrinceAMD | why? |
| 00:46.04 | PrinceAMD | need more money? |
| 00:46.39 | GPLGeek | my current job isnt much money, and some of the people are idiots and I hate them. |
| 00:46.50 | GPLGeek | one of my managers is clinicly insane |
| 00:48.38 | GPLGeek | hehehe... microsoft is using sun solaris on some of their servers and linux on others. and they sell "the most advanced business server on the market" |
| 00:48.52 | GPLGeek | That's funny |
| 00:50.52 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 00:50.59 | LinuxNIT | nice |
| 00:51.47 | GPLGeek | 2003.trashcan, unused edition |
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| 01:15.49 | ThingolF | does anyone here know why when i try to execute a script it says cannot execute binary file? |
| 01:15.57 | ThingolF | im probably doing something wrong but i have no clue what |
| 01:17.03 | LinuxNIT | whats the script say? |
| 01:17.08 | LinuxNIT | pastebin.ca |
| 01:19.38 | ThingolF | #!/usr/bin/bash |
| 01:19.38 | ThingolF | echo hello |
| 01:19.41 | ThingolF | thats it |
| 01:19.51 | ThingolF | i havent added anything but that because i cant even get that to work |
| 01:20.04 | LinuxNIT | try /bin/bash |
| 01:20.22 | get | in linux: #! /bin/bash |
| 01:20.32 | get | locate bash |
| 01:20.43 | get | /bin/bash |
| 01:20.43 | get | /bin/rbash |
| 01:20.43 | get | /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 01:20.43 | get | /etc/bash_completion |
| 01:20.44 | get | /etc/bash_completion.d |
| 01:20.44 | get | /etc/bash_completion.d/apt-file |
| 01:20.46 | get | /etc/bash_completion.d/debconf |
| 01:20.48 | get | /etc/bash_completion.d/deborphan |
| 01:20.50 | get | /etc/bash_completion.d/jackd |
| 01:20.53 | LinuxNIT | flood |
| 01:20.54 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 01:20.54 | get | /etc/bash_completion.d/ooffice.sh |
| 01:20.56 | get | /etc/bash_completion.d/pon |
| 01:20.58 | get | /etc/bash_completion.d/reprepro |
| 01:21.00 | get | /etc/bash_completion.d/subversion |
| 01:21.02 | get | /etc/skel/.bash_logout |
| 01:21.04 | get | /etc/skel/.bash_profile |
| 01:21.06 | get | /etc/skel/.bashrc |
| 01:21.08 | get | /home/get/.bash_history |
| 01:21.10 | get | /home/get/.bash_logout |
| 01:21.12 | get | /home/get/.bash_profile |
| 01:21.14 | get | /home/get/.bashrc |
| 01:21.18 | get | /home/get/.bashrc~ |
| 01:21.20 | get | /home/get/Music/THUNDERDOME.17.-.2CD.incl.Covers.-.thecore.EAC.OGG112/CD 2/17 - (OmarSantana) ready_to_brain_bash.OGG |
| 01:21.23 | get | /home/undead/.bash_history |
| 01:21.27 | get | /home/undead/.bash_logout |
| 01:21.29 | get | /home/undead/.bash_profile |
| 01:21.31 | get | /home/undead/.bashrc |
| 01:21.33 | get | /root/.bash_history |
| 01:21.34 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.35 | get | /root/.bashrc |
| 01:21.37 | get | /usr/bin/bashbug |
| 01:21.39 | get | /usr/bin/colors-bash |
| 01:21.43 | get | thx |
| 01:21.48 | LinuxNIT | np |
| 01:21.51 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 01:21.53 | get | holy shit |
| 01:21.54 | get | ... |
| 01:22.45 | ThingolF | so any idea? |
| 01:22.56 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.02 | LinuxNIT | we said that twice |
| 01:23.03 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 01:23.21 | LinuxNIT | but it probably got lost in gets flood |
| 01:24.35 | LinuxNIT | ThingolF: did you get it? |
| 01:25.04 | ThingolF | i changed it to bin/bash (that is where it is located i checked) |
| 01:25.21 | ThingolF | but still getting bash: <dir>: cannot execute binary file msg |
| 01:25.31 | ThingolF | #!/bin/bash is what i have now |
| 01:25.42 | ThingolF | file:///home/thingol/Storage/Scripts/basleep |
| 01:25.50 | ThingolF | #!/bin/bash |
| 01:25.50 | ThingolF | echo hello |
| 01:27.03 | LinuxNIT | how are you executing it? |
| 01:27.20 | ThingolF | ive tried just typing in the path to the file |
| 01:27.27 | ThingolF | and /bin/bash /path to file |
| 01:27.29 | LinuxNIT | put a dot in front of it |
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| 01:27.36 | ThingolF | ./ like that? |
| 01:27.40 | ThingolF | i tried that also |
| 01:27.41 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.56 | LinuxNIT | try it now |
| 01:28.07 | ThingolF | says no such file or directory |
| 01:28.43 | LinuxNIT | paste me your command |
| 01:28.49 | LinuxNIT | in here |
| 01:29.01 | ThingolF | ./home/thingol/Storage/Scripts/basleep |
| 01:29.20 | LinuxNIT | cd /home/thingol/Storage/Scripts/ |
| 01:29.24 | LinuxNIT | ./basleep |
| 01:29.30 | ThingolF | did that already just now |
| 01:29.37 | ThingolF | same cannot execute binary file |
| 01:29.44 | ThingolF | i made the file in scite |
| 01:29.48 | ThingolF | is that something to do with it? |
| 01:29.51 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 01:30.00 | ThingolF | i dont reckon it would be since it isnt something you must compile ;p |
| 01:30.20 | ThingolF | im using latest version of elivecd |
| 01:30.25 | ThingolF | is there something i need to install maybe? |
| 01:30.29 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 01:31.46 | ThingolF | what else would it be then |
| 01:31.54 | ThingolF | it should just work in theory yes? its a simple one line script |
| 01:32.03 | LinuxNIT | it works here |
| 01:32.17 | LinuxNIT | something youre not quite doing right.... |
| 01:32.49 | ThingolF | dunno what it would be |
| 01:32.52 | ThingolF | here is what i do |
| 01:33.21 | ThingolF | i open up a terminal window from ibar |
| 01:33.27 | ThingolF | goto the directory |
| 01:33.38 | ThingolF | type in ./basleep |
| 01:33.43 | ThingolF | and it says cannot execute binary file |
| 01:33.51 | LinuxNIT | does it say permission denied? |
| 01:33.58 | ThingolF | no |
| 01:34.36 | ThingolF | i went under properties/permissions tab and checked the allow this file to run as a program |
| 01:34.52 | ThingolF | so i need to chmod it or something? |
| 01:34.56 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 01:35.39 | Zarephath | Hey all...got swiftfox installed..having a time trying to use the menu manager to add it...also can't figure out how to add it to the ibar |
| 01:36.00 | LinuxNIT | no that works |
| 01:36.20 | LinuxNIT | Zarephath: you have to make an eap |
| 01:36.24 | LinuxNIT | apt make-eap |
| 01:36.26 | apt | rumour has it, make-eap is http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html |
| 01:36.37 | Zarephath | LinuxNIT: Thanks |
| 01:36.57 | LinuxNIT | ThingolF: join #elive-flood |
| 01:38.58 | Zarephath | LinuxNIT: apt-cache search doesn't find a package named make-eap |
| 01:39.20 | LinuxNIT | Zarephath: go to the link |
| 01:39.44 | Zarephath | Oops..sorry...long day |
| 01:39.49 | LinuxNIT | no worries |
| 01:41.08 | LinuxNIT | apt say hi to ThingolF |
| 01:41.09 | apt | hi to ThingolF |
| 01:41.19 | LinuxNIT | apt good bot |
| 01:41.19 | apt | aw, gee, LinuxNIT |
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| 01:47.04 | Zarephath | LinuxNIT: Next question how do I navigate the folder structure to get to /usr/share/pixmaps/ ? I tried different mouse combinations in the advanced options for the eap icon editor...can't get out of my home folder? |
| 01:48.11 | LinuxNIT | the .. takes you up a directory |
| 01:48.43 | *** join/#elive Elive_user42 (n=Elive_us@190.38.81.87) |
| 01:50.10 | Zarephath | Yep..double left clicking does nothing in e17..there must be another mouse stroke to navigate out to the dir path |
| 01:52.05 | johpunk | wenas |
| 01:52.26 | johpunk | alguien que me ayude con el root que finalizando la instalacion me salio error y no salio pa instalar el grub >.< |
| 01:54.41 | get | ??? |
| 01:54.46 | get | lol |
| 01:54.55 | johpunk | grub-install /dev/hda1 |
| 01:54.55 | johpunk | Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. |
| 01:54.55 | johpunk | Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device. |
| 01:55.02 | johpunk | :/ |
| 01:55.22 | get | LinuxNIT: whats to do even he gets an error like this? |
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| 01:56.04 | johpunk | terminando la instalacion despues de ingresar las cotraseñas de usuario y demas me salio un erro que decia que si undir f1 f2 o f3 |
| 01:56.12 | *** part/#elive Elive_user4 (n=Elive_us@lns-bzn-27-82-248-50-244.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 01:56.27 | LinuxNIT | grub installs to hda |
| 01:56.35 | get | ah yes |
| 01:56.43 | get | johpunk: |
| 01:56.45 | johpunk | :/ |
| 01:56.46 | get | pon esto |
| 01:56.47 | get | a mano |
| 01:56.47 | johpunk | get, dime |
| 01:56.49 | get | grub-install /dev/hda |
| 01:56.51 | johpunk | a ver |
| 01:56.52 | get | sin el 1 |
| 01:56.55 | johpunk | ok |
| 01:56.57 | LinuxNIT | is he in a livecd? |
| 01:57.04 | get | yes |
| 01:57.15 | get | finishing the installer |
| 01:57.15 | LinuxNIT | trying to restore grub? |
| 01:57.18 | LinuxNIT | oh ok |
| 01:57.29 | LinuxNIT | hda or the mbr is best |
| 01:57.33 | LinuxNIT | one and the same |
| 01:57.43 | johpunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:57.43 | johpunk | Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device. |
| 01:57.49 | get | lol |
| 01:57.56 | get | wth shoulb the this ? |
| 01:58.00 | johpunk | =_0 |
| 01:58.21 | LinuxNIT | fdisk -l |
| 01:58.57 | johpunk | Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes |
| 01:58.57 | johpunk | 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders |
| 01:58.57 | johpunk | Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes |
| 01:58.57 | johpunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.57 | johpunk | /dev/hda1 1 5812 46684858+ 7 HPFS/NTFS |
| 01:58.57 | johpunk | /dev/hda2 * 5813 7113 10450282+ 83 Linux |
| 01:58.59 | johpunk | /dev/hda3 9664 9729 530145 82 Linux swap / Solaris |
| 01:59.01 | johpunk | /dev/hda4 7114 9663 20482875 83 Linux |
| 01:59.03 | johpunk | Partition table entries are not in disk order |
| 01:59.30 | get | hehhehe |
| 01:59.34 | LinuxNIT | wtf |
| 01:59.36 | johpunk | o.0 |
| 01:59.41 | get | la primera particion debes ponerla como boot |
| 01:59.42 | get | .... |
| 01:59.54 | LinuxNIT | did elive not install it on its own? |
| 02:00.02 | get | donde vayas a instalar el grub |
| 02:00.04 | get | nop |
| 02:00.05 | johpunk | pues logico pero como nunca habia instalado elive y pide varias cosas pues ya veo que la cage |
| 02:00.08 | get | the boot flag not |
| 02:00.10 | johpunk | get, y en este caso como ago ? |
| 02:00.18 | get | dale: gparted |
| 02:00.30 | johpunk | get, ok |
| 02:00.41 | get | y marca la primera particion en gestionar flags, marca boot |
| 02:00.55 | get | listo |
| 02:00.58 | get | y otra ve: |
| 02:01.04 | get | grub-install /dev/hda |
| 02:01.13 | johpunk | voy |
| 02:01.46 | get | LinuxNIT: im just relaxing and watching my new dragonfly bsd how it installs all by itself ... |
| 02:01.52 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 02:02.02 | LinuxNIT | bsd tried to kill my hard drive |
| 02:02.26 | get | bsd has recognized me my two hidden partitions ... |
| 02:02.32 | get | xD |
| 02:02.34 | get | linux not |
| 02:02.35 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 02:02.35 | get | ;D |
| 02:02.51 | get | also i has recognized me the MO disk |
| 02:02.58 | get | magneto optical |
| 02:02.59 | LinuxNIT | MO? |
| 02:03.03 | get | Zip |
| 02:03.09 | get | zip fdds |
| 02:03.13 | LinuxNIT | ah |
| 02:03.18 | get | starting 512mb up to 2G |
| 02:03.21 | johpunk | get, # grub-install /dev/hda |
| 02:03.21 | johpunk | Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device. |
| 02:03.36 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 02:03.44 | LinuxNIT | does he need to mount / |
| 02:03.45 | get | :/ |
| 02:03.54 | LinuxNIT | so there is a place for /boot |
| 02:03.54 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 02:04.06 | LinuxNIT | where did he install elive? |
| 02:04.19 | johpunk | i dont understeand |
| 02:04.27 | get | a donde instalaste elive? |
| 02:04.32 | get | a q particion? |
| 02:04.36 | get | 2 3 4 ? |
| 02:04.51 | LinuxNIT | run mount |
| 02:04.54 | johpunk | en estas 3 ultimas |
| 02:04.58 | LinuxNIT | show us the output |
| 02:04.59 | johpunk | la primera es de win2 |
| 02:05.03 | get | ejecuta: |
| 02:05.05 | get | mount |
| 02:05.23 | johpunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:05.23 | johpunk | rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) |
| 02:05.23 | johpunk | none on /sys type sysfs (rw) |
| 02:05.23 | johpunk | none on /proc type proc (rw,nodiratime) |
| 02:05.23 | johpunk | udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw) |
| 02:05.23 | johpunk | tmpfs on /DSSCD type tmpfs (rw) |
| 02:05.25 | johpunk | /dev/hdc on /media/cdrom type iso9660 (ro) |
| 02:05.27 | johpunk | /dev/loop0 on /initrd/base type squashfs (ro) |
| 02:05.29 | johpunk | /dev/loop1 on /initrd/autoconf type squashfs (ro) |
| 02:05.31 | johpunk | tmpfs on /initrd/overall type tmpfs (rw) |
| 02:05.33 | johpunk | unionfs on / type unionfs (rw,dirs=/initrd/overall=rw:/initrd/autoconf=ro:/initrd/base=ro,debug=0,delete=whiteout,copyup=preserve) |
| 02:05.38 | johpunk | unionfs on /dev/.static/dev type unionfs (rw,dirs=/initrd/overall=rw:/initrd/autoconf=ro:/initrd/base=ro,debug=0,delete=whiteout,copyup=preserve) |
| 02:05.41 | johpunk | tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid) |
| 02:05.43 | johpunk | usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec) |
| 02:05.45 | johpunk | tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev) |
| 02:05.47 | johpunk | devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec) |
| 02:05.49 | johpunk | /dev/hda2 on /mnt/hda2 type reiserfs (rw) |
| 02:05.51 | johpunk | /dev/hda4 on /mnt/hda4 type reiserfs (rw) |
| 02:05.53 | johpunk | /dev/hda1 on /mnt/hda1 type ntfs (rw |
| 02:06.12 | LinuxNIT | get did he install on hda3? |
| 02:06.23 | get | q lo has instalado en la tercera? |
| 02:06.39 | get | esq me da q algo has hecho mal... |
| 02:06.59 | johpunk | get, deje 10gb para / y el resto para home |
| 02:07.00 | get | yo de ti instalaria d nuevo, y namas crearia 2 particiones + 1 swap |
| 02:07.08 | johpunk | eso fue lo que hise |
| 02:07.13 | get | .... |
| 02:07.26 | johpunk | get, 3 particiones todas las cree como primarias ext3 y 1 swap |
| 02:07.29 | get | pero q cosa mas rara |
| 02:07.30 | get | ... |
| 02:07.36 | get | mmmmm |
| 02:07.51 | johpunk | 10gb para / 20gb para home y 512 para swap |
| 02:08.36 | johpunk | get, las particiones como reiserf segui las recomendacion que da el proceso de la instalacion |
| 02:09.13 | johpunk | get, ahhy otra cosa despues de crear / y home me salio que para hacer otra particion? no seria que tenia que asignar la particon del grub aunke ya la tenia echa¿ |
| 02:09.15 | johpunk | ? |
| 02:09.22 | LinuxNIT | get where did he install the system to? |
| 02:09.51 | get | amos aver |
| 02:09.56 | get | tu creas las particiones |
| 02:10.05 | get | lueto te dice q formatea la swap |
| 02:10.12 | get | lueto te pregunta donde isntalas el elive |
| 02:10.19 | johpunk | ok primero la de / luego la de home asi com lo pide el proceso de la instalacion |
| 02:10.24 | get | y despues te pregunta q particion extra quiees montar |
| 02:10.38 | get | como el home por ej |
| 02:10.41 | johpunk | get, no lo del swap nunca salio |
| 02:10.48 | get | lo hace solo |
| 02:10.53 | *** join/#elive Elive_user57 (n=Elive_us@219.163.75.109) |
| 02:10.59 | johpunk | get, pq al tirar el instalado le doy cancelar a la primera parte pa que me salgan las opciones de gparted etc |
| 02:11.08 | get | a donde instalaste el linux en la primera o en la ultima? |
| 02:11.20 | LinuxNIT | ls /mnt/hda2 |
| 02:11.26 | get | pon eso |
| 02:11.27 | LinuxNIT | ls /mnt/hda4 |
| 02:11.30 | johpunk | get, pues en realidad este es un pc nuevo y le estoy montando elive por primera vez |
| 02:11.48 | johpunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:11.48 | johpunk | bin dev etc home media opt root srv tmp var |
| 02:11.48 | johpunk | boot elive floppy lib mnt proc sbin sys usr |
| 02:11.51 | LinuxNIT | thanks |
| 02:11.59 | johpunk | ls /mnt/hda4 |
| 02:11.59 | johpunk | simon |
| 02:12.01 | johpunk | xD |
| 02:12.12 | LinuxNIT | grub-install /dev/hda --root-directory=/mnt/hda2 |
| 02:12.13 | LinuxNIT | try that |
| 02:12.23 | johpunk | ok |
| 02:12.42 | johpunk | grub-install /dev/hda --root-directory=/mnt/hda2 |
| 02:12.43 | johpunk | Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. |
| 02:12.43 | johpunk | Due to a bug in xfs_freeze, the following command might produce a segmentation |
| 02:12.43 | johpunk | fault when /mnt/hda2/boot/grub is not in an XFS filesystem. This error is harmless and |
| 02:12.43 | johpunk | can be ignored. |
| 02:12.43 | johpunk | xfs_freeze: specified file ["/mnt/hda2/boot/grub"] is not on an XFS filesystem |
| 02:12.45 | johpunk | Installation finished. No error reported. |
| 02:12.47 | johpunk | This is the contents of the device map /mnt/hda2/boot/grub/device.map. |
| 02:12.49 | johpunk | Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect, |
| 02:12.50 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 02:12.51 | johpunk | fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'. |
| 02:12.53 | johpunk | (fd0)/dev/fd0 |
| 02:12.55 | johpunk | (hd0)/dev/hda |
| 02:13.01 | LinuxNIT | <johpunk> Installation finished. No error reported. |
| 02:13.02 | johpunk | xD |
| 02:13.03 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 02:13.25 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, the instalation its done? |
| 02:13.38 | LinuxNIT | i guess... im not sure how why you had to do that manually |
| 02:13.49 | LinuxNIT | the elive installer should install grub for you |
| 02:13.55 | johpunk | :/ |
| 02:14.01 | LinuxNIT | all i know is that grub is installed |
| 02:14.02 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 02:14.31 | johpunk | ferore finish the instalation show the error says press f1 ... press f2 ot press f3 :/ |
| 02:14.59 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, i go to reboot dude Brb tks |
| 02:15.05 | LinuxNIT | youre welcome |
| 02:15.09 | LinuxNIT | good luck |
| 02:15.14 | johpunk | ^^ yks |
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| 02:31.13 | LinuxNIT | get did he ever come back? |
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| 02:43.31 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, dude the gurb not install |
| 02:43.34 | johpunk | *grub |
| 02:43.51 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, and the elive live cd not work :/ |
| 02:44.37 | LinuxNIT | the cd dosent work either? |
| 02:44.47 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, not |
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| 02:45.23 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, when restar my pc |
| 02:45.25 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, GNU GRUB version 0.97 (640K lower / 3072K upper memory) |
| 02:45.25 | johpunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:45.25 | johpunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:45.25 | johpunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:45.25 | johpunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:45.25 | johpunk | grub> |
| 02:45.40 | LinuxNIT | oh thats cuase it dosent have a menu.list file |
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| 02:45.57 | LinuxNIT | did you check the md5sum of the iso before burning? |
| 02:46.06 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, no |
| 02:46.10 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, :S |
| 02:46.35 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, how to install grub in knoppix :/ |
| 02:46.45 | LinuxNIT | johpunk: grub is installed |
| 02:46.50 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, i stay in live cd knoppix now |
| 02:47.02 | LinuxNIT | you just dont have a menu |
| 02:47.18 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, yes |
| 02:47.36 | LinuxNIT | show me the contents of the boot dir on hda2 |
| 02:47.52 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, gimme the command ^^ |
| 02:48.01 | LinuxNIT | mount | grep hda2 |
| 02:48.04 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, ok |
| 02:48.43 | LinuxNIT | anything? |
| 02:49.18 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, root@1[~]# mount | grep hda2 |
| 02:49.18 | johpunk | root@1[~]# |
| 02:49.43 | LinuxNIT | mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 |
| 02:50.17 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, root@1[~]# mount | grep hda2 |
| 02:50.17 | johpunk | /dev/hda2 on /media/hda2 type reiserfs (rw |
| 02:50.45 | LinuxNIT | ls /mnt/hda2/boot |
| 02:51.09 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, root@1[~]# ls /mnt/hda2/boot |
| 02:51.09 | johpunk | config-2.6.15.7 grub System.map-2.6.15.7 vmlinuz vmlinuz-2.6.15.7 |
| 02:51.28 | LinuxNIT | ls /mnt/hda2/boot/grub |
| 02:51.47 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, root@1[~]# ls /mnt/hda2/boot/grub |
| 02:51.47 | johpunk | default e2fs_stage1_5 jfs_stage1_5 reiserfs_stage1_5 stage2 |
| 02:51.47 | johpunk | device.map fat_stage1_5 minix_stage1_5 stage1 xfs_stage1_5 |
| 02:53.01 | LinuxNIT | get ping |
| 02:53.09 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, what ? |
| 02:53.16 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, restart the pc ? |
| 02:53.17 | LinuxNIT | not you johpunk |
| 02:53.22 | LinuxNIT | johpunk: no wait |
| 02:53.24 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, ok |
| 02:53.52 | LinuxNIT | http://pastebin.ca/322159 |
| 02:54.08 | LinuxNIT | save that as /mnt/hda2/boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 02:54.24 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, ok |
| 02:55.01 | LinuxNIT | then |
| 02:55.08 | LinuxNIT | ls /mnt/hda2/boot/grub |
| 02:56.02 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, nano /mnt/hda2/boot/grub/menu.lst inside its none |
| 02:58.27 | johpunk | LinuxNIT, thois its right root@1[~]# nano /mnt/hda2/boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 02:58.28 | johpunk | root@1[~]# ls /mnt/hda2/boot/grub |
| 02:58.28 | johpunk | default fat_stage1_5 minix_stage1_5 stage2 |
| 02:58.28 | johpunk | device.map jfs_stage1_5 reiserfs_stage1_5 xfs_stage1_5 |
| 02:58.28 | johpunk | e2fs_stage1_5 menu.lst stage1 |
| 02:58.28 | johpunk | ? |
| 03:00.21 | johpunk | brb |
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| 03:09.41 | Elive_user43 | get, viejo mejor reinstalo dime que tengo que hacer para no cagarla :/ |
| 03:10.20 | johpunk | get, primero creo la / luego la home y luego ahora la de swap :/ |
| 03:10.22 | johpunk | ? |
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| 03:16.06 | LinuxNIT | johpunk: did it work? |
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| 03:38.39 | GPLGeek | Dinner: 2 Tangerines, 6 pitted Dates, 2 Figs, 2 peices of romain lettuce, one cracker, one coffee |
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| 04:03.15 | ThingolF | anyone know how to configure mice in gui? |
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| 04:14.53 | ThingolF | well i got my psc working thru hplip |
| 04:14.58 | ThingolF | that was easy with the gui setup |
| 04:15.45 | LinuxNIT | you could try gxset |
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| 05:34.32 | Pacma | buenos dias |
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| 06:19.42 | revdjenk | wasynyt is back!!!! |
| 06:19.51 | revdjenk | well sort of... |
| 06:20.15 | revdjenk | hey LinuxNIT, GPLGeek look at me, xp free!!! |
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| 06:20.29 | GPLGeek | sweet |
| 06:20.39 | GPLGeek | you cought me at the very second that I was walking into my room to get something |
| 06:20.49 | revdjenk | yippeee |
| 06:21.11 | revdjenk | now if I could get my wifi to work again... |
| 06:21.13 | GPLGeek | I wont be xp free for a while, but I've got some virtual machines |
| 06:21.21 | GPLGeek | I have to do cross-platform development and testing |
| 06:21.25 | GPLGeek | hmmm.... |
| 06:21.31 | GPLGeek | ill talk to you later I gotta go |
| 06:21.36 | GPLGeek | probably be back in 45 min |
| 06:21.37 | revdjenk | well my lappy man never provided cd so I could do that |
| 06:21.44 | revdjenk | see ya |
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| 06:42.11 | Elive_user36 | wenas alguien despierto |
| 06:44.44 | Mutacion | casi no |
| 06:44.47 | Mutacion | casi bien jeton |
| 06:47.42 | johpunk | xD |
| 06:48.06 | johpunk | voy a instalar elive y puse las particiones como extendidas pq tambien tengo win asi es que se hace ? |
| 06:48.17 | johpunk | pa que el grub se instale en la primaria? |
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| 07:46.41 | GPLGeek | good night everyone |
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| 12:19.24 | wizard123 | hi |
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| 12:26.38 | Sibius | una pregunta, cinelerra funciona bien con elive? |
| 12:40.51 | wasynyt | good day everyone |
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| 12:52.34 | Sibius | hello |
| 12:52.52 | Sibius | one question, how runs cinelerra in Elive? |
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| 13:07.11 | wizard123 | lol |
| 13:07.16 | wizard123 | barbatron: cool nick :D |
| 13:12.16 | wasynyt | good day wizard123 |
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| 13:25.02 | Elive_user | hi |
| 13:25.14 | wasynyt | good afternoon Elive_user |
| 13:25.34 | Elive_user | anyone know if it's possible to configure a multiseat on entrance? |
| 13:25.45 | Elive_user | hi wasynyt |
| 13:26.01 | wasynyt | hmm i am not sure illu_ |
| 13:26.29 | illu_ | k |
| 13:28.16 | wasynyt | you mean is it possible to have two or more users ? |
| 13:28.21 | wasynyt | shown in entrance |
| 13:28.25 | wasynyt | ? |
| 13:28.30 | illu_ | no |
| 13:28.53 | wasynyt | ? |
| 13:28.55 | illu_ | multiseat like 2 screens, 2 keyboard , 2 mouse and 2 users |
| 13:29.11 | wasynyt | ahh... well... well |
| 13:29.23 | wasynyt | try and well see if it is possible... |
| 13:29.26 | wasynyt | but now food |
| 13:29.39 | wasynyt | i dont think that base system makes it impossible |
| 13:29.42 | illu_ | it's greatly working under gdm and kdm, so i prefer to use entrance + E17 on |
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| 14:53.49 | Zarephath | Hey |
| 14:55.26 | Zarephath | Ok so I thought I had figured out the create eap thing. It did create one for swiftfox in .e/e/applications/all..for some reason it had changed the settings for the terminal...I got that fixed...is there a in depth look at creating a eap and then adding it to the ibar? |
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| 15:08.43 | Zarephath | I can't select a .png image to use for my eap. When I click it nothing happens and drag n drop doesn't work? |
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| 15:50.41 | Sibius | buenas, qué tal va el cinelerra en el elive revolution? |
| 16:11.56 | LinuxNIT | oklahoma is worthless |
| 16:13.45 | Zarephath | Hey LinuxNIT: |
| 16:13.57 | LinuxNIT | hey |
| 16:15.04 | Zarephath | I finally got the eap file created..dragged and dropped it to my ibar, it doesn't show up...I checked the .order file it is there and seen in entangle..I can't figure out why it doesn't show up in e17.. |
| 16:15.37 | LinuxNIT | you cant drag it directly to ibar |
| 16:15.49 | LinuxNIT | you have to add it to the ibar section in entangle |
| 16:16.14 | Zarephath | Either way the point is moot..it is showing in entangle..so why doesn't it show on the ibar? |
| 16:16.37 | LinuxNIT | try restarting e17 |
| 16:16.48 | LinuxNIT | from the menu.... dont reboot just restart E |
| 16:16.57 | Zarephath | And I have restarted e as well.. |
| 16:17.35 | LinuxNIT | then i dont know |
| 16:18.26 | Zarephath | Wierd to say the least...I also noticed last night double left clicks or right clicks don't let me navigate the directory structures either...who is a person I might look for in the channel that would have the knowledge to help? |
| 16:18.51 | Zarephath | LinuxNIT: Thanks though :-) |
| 16:19.39 | LinuxNIT | probably the best bet to get them to work is to use the newer version of e17 in the tests repo.... the problem is that entrance dosent quite work right so you have to use gdm or something instead untill it gets fixed |
| 16:20.18 | Zarephath | Ahh..I can read up on the repo list to add to sources.list at get-e.org? |
| 16:21.03 | LinuxNIT | all you have to do is add the word " tests" to the end of the elive repo line |
| 16:21.09 | LinuxNIT | update and install |
| 16:21.37 | Zarephath | Ok thanks..be back after upgrading...thanks again... |
| 16:22.00 | LinuxNIT | Zarephath: like i said entrance dosent work |
| 16:22.51 | Zarephath | Oh you meant in the newer version of e..sorry I thought you meant the current version I have.. |
| 16:22.51 | LinuxNIT | so youll need gdm or some other login manger.... or just use startx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start |
| 16:23.09 | LinuxNIT | the newer version of E works better but the newer version of entrance does not |
| 16:23.38 | Zarephath | So when I upgrade...after reboot it will just drop to tty then I can issue the command |
| 16:23.39 | LinuxNIT | this is the problem with pre-alpha software :-/ |
| 16:23.57 | LinuxNIT | no entrance will start up and it will allow you to login.... |
| 16:24.00 | Zarephath | Yeah...no complaints here..all in all it is pretty darned stable IMHO |
| 16:24.14 | LinuxNIT | but after about 10 seconds of being logged in it will log you out on its own |
| 16:24.25 | Zarephath | Ahhh..then run the command..quick..heh |
| 16:24.43 | LinuxNIT | actually it brings you back to entrance |
| 16:24.51 | LinuxNIT | so you could just remove entrance |
| 16:24.55 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD: ping |
| 16:25.04 | LinuxNIT | no wait |
| 16:25.07 | LinuxNIT | i have an idea :D |
| 16:25.16 | LinuxNIT | did you change the repos yet? |
| 16:25.22 | Zarephath | no |
| 16:25.32 | LinuxNIT | this will work if you want to do a little manual labor :) |
| 16:25.40 | Zarephath | sure |
| 16:25.43 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 16:26.21 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.27 | LinuxNIT | any output? |
| 16:28.17 | Zarephath | just a sec.. I was awaqy |
| 16:28.21 | Zarephath | *away* |
| 16:28.59 | Zarephath | no such file or directory |
| 16:29.09 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.11 | LinuxNIT | sorry |
| 16:29.50 | Zarephath | just executed without anything echoed back |
| 16:29.55 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 16:30.03 | LinuxNIT | open synaptic and tell it to reinstall entrance |
| 16:30.39 | Zarephath | Is that the manager that is accessed through the config app? |
| 16:30.44 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 16:30.48 | LinuxNIT | the package manager |
| 16:30.51 | Zarephath | Ok just a sec |
| 16:31.13 | Zarephath | I wasn't sure if it was actually synaptic or another app doing the same thing.. ;-) |
| 16:31.26 | LinuxNIT | it is synaptic |
| 16:31.56 | Zarephath | You want I should uninstall then reinstall..or just reinstall? |
| 16:32.07 | LinuxNIT | reinstall |
| 16:32.11 | Zarephath | k |
| 16:32.16 | LinuxNIT | youll see ;) |
| 16:32.59 | Zarephath | done |
| 16:33.05 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:33.30 | Zarephath | voila! We now have the deb file... |
| 16:33.34 | LinuxNIT | hehe |
| 16:33.42 | LinuxNIT | ok copy that deb to a safe location |
| 16:33.49 | Zarephath | Ok brb |
| 16:34.03 | LinuxNIT | me too... reloging in |
| 16:34.52 | Zarephath | done |
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| 16:49.16 | LinuxNIT | sorry bout that |
| 16:49.22 | LinuxNIT | Zarephath: you still here? |
| 16:50.34 | Zarephath | Yep |
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| 16:52.36 | Zarephath | LinuxNIT: Sup? |
| 16:52.39 | LinuxNIT | ok |
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| 16:53.03 | LinuxNIT | did you save the deb? |
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| 16:53.11 | Zarephath | Yes. too /root |
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| 16:53.18 | LinuxNIT | ok |
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| 16:53.24 | LinuxNIT | now you should be able to update e17 |
| 16:54.09 | LinuxNIT | then when that is done you will manuall copy each file out of the .deb you saved to there proper location on the system? |
| 16:54.11 | LinuxNIT | then when that is done you will manuall copy each file out of the .deb you saved to there proper location on the system |
| 16:55.08 | Zarephath | So what you are proposing it to upgrade using the test repo...however I am not experienced to know how to determine the file paths where I will need to copy the files from the deb file to? |
| 16:55.37 | LinuxNIT | when you open the .deb with file-roller it will be pretty obvious |
| 16:56.44 | Zarephath | So if I understand once that is done..I will have the older entrance.with a completely upgraded e17? |
| 16:56.47 | LinuxNIT | open the .deb and then open the data.tar.gz file inside the deb |
| 16:56.59 | LinuxNIT | right |
| 16:57.37 | Zarephath | Are you sure that the older version of the entrance files will be compatible with the newer version? |
| 16:58.00 | LinuxNIT | you will nolonger have the newer version of entrance. |
| 16:58.14 | LinuxNIT | and all that entrance does is start the window manager |
| 16:58.21 | Zarephath | Ok..I gotcha |
| 16:58.23 | Zarephath | Thanks! |
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| 16:59.45 | LinuxNIT | oh yeah set the e17 theme to the default e17 theme |
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| 17:00.07 | Zarephath | That was just test for the sources.list right? |
| 17:00.23 | LinuxNIT | i dont think you have to do this anymore but if e17 crashes then go to a console (cntrl+alt+f1) and remove the ~/.e directory |
| 17:00.33 | Zarephath | How do I reset e to default..ok |
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| 17:00.46 | LinuxNIT | in the e17 theme manager |
| 17:01.17 | LinuxNIT | i have to run to the bank really quick... think yoyu got it? |
| 17:01.37 | Zarephath | Yep |
| 17:01.43 | LinuxNIT | k |
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| 17:11.04 | LinuxNIT | hows it coming? |
| 17:14.10 | LinuxNIT | ok im gonna try this again |
| 17:14.13 | LinuxNIT | brb... i hope |
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| 17:21.57 | SuperpeZ | hi LinuxNIT |
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| 18:06.17 | Zarephath | LinuxNIT: Help! |
| 18:06.47 | Zarephath | Ok I can't get entrance to kill so I am just at a prompt to startx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start |
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| 18:08.45 | LinuxNIT | and? |
| 18:08.53 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 18:09.05 | LinuxNIT | why do you need entrance to kill? |
| 18:09.10 | LinuxNIT | is it not working? |
| 18:09.55 | LinuxNIT | if entrance is still running then you can run this to get x running on a different server |
| 18:10.04 | Zarephath | Nah...both e17 and e16 login..then drop to login right away |
| 18:10.06 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.30 | LinuxNIT | i see you havent replaced the new entrance with the old one yet |
| 18:10.48 | Zarephath | Yeah when I try to use e17 it tells me I should run it using startx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start but it won't since X is already running |
| 18:10.56 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.59 | LinuxNIT | that will do it |
| 18:11.30 | Zarephath | I got it..just trying to explain EXACTLY what I am seeing..otherwise I may not get good information back.. eh? |
| 18:11.39 | LinuxNIT | thanks |
| 18:11.44 | LinuxNIT | much better than some people |
| 18:11.52 | LinuxNIT | they say "its not working help" |
| 18:11.56 | LinuxNIT | and then sit there |
| 18:11.58 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 18:12.14 | Zarephath | Is there a command line util like file-roller that will let me see the .gz file? |
| 18:12.16 | Zarephath | Heh |
| 18:12.31 | LinuxNIT | uh |
| 18:12.44 | LinuxNIT | im sure there is but i dont know the command to unpacka .deb |
| 18:12.52 | LinuxNIT | wierd but i never looked into that |
| 18:13.02 | Zarephath | What do the two hyphens do after the command to run x on a different console? |
| 18:13.35 | LinuxNIT | combined withthe :1 |
| 18:13.36 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 18:13.46 | LinuxNIT | well a different xserver |
| 18:14.16 | LinuxNIT | then you can do it again on :2 and :3 and :4 |
| 18:14.19 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 18:14.23 | Zarephath | It won't run it...Fatal server error keeps telling me it is running on 0, but I specified 1 |
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| 18:14.58 | Zarephath | Nevermind..I missed the space between the hyphens |
| 18:15.07 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 18:15.11 | THEoracle | hello all |
| 18:15.14 | THEoracle | :-) |
| 18:15.22 | LinuxNIT | hello THEoracle |
| 18:15.49 | Zarephath | Now it tells me it has wiped my config files..which was expected...see LinuxNIT I do try and read so I know what is around the bend...I am just not a experience Linux user (YET) |
| 18:16.17 | Zarephath | Wow ibar looks different.. |
| 18:16.18 | LinuxNIT | dont worry Zarephath |
| 18:16.26 | LinuxNIT | youre gettign there |
| 18:16.30 | Zarephath | Yeah..just impatient..heheh |
| 18:16.34 | LinuxNIT | and youre actually trying |
| 18:16.42 | LinuxNIT | lots of people dont |
| 18:17.00 | LinuxNIT | yes ibar is much different |
| 18:17.04 | LinuxNIT | its better too |
| 18:17.10 | LinuxNIT | you can now use .desktop files |
| 18:17.14 | Zarephath | You know I am crazy too..I dist-upgraded...so this basically is a testing version now.. :-O |
| 18:17.26 | LinuxNIT | right clickon ibar and you can add apps |
| 18:17.36 | LinuxNIT | some apps you can add by draggin the icon off the window |
| 18:17.38 | Zarephath | Which are really just .edj files...eh.. |
| 18:17.45 | LinuxNIT | there is a lot to discover |
| 18:17.53 | LinuxNIT | no .desktop files are not edj |
| 18:18.02 | LinuxNIT | .desktop files are what gnome and kde use |
| 18:18.04 | Zarephath | Ok..back on topic...is file-roller on a menu? |
| 18:18.14 | LinuxNIT | so it is more compitble with other desktops |
| 18:18.29 | LinuxNIT | umm i dunno |
| 18:18.30 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 18:18.36 | Zarephath | Ahh..I was reading over on get-e I think that the files are actually almost the same..just more information stored in the .desktop file.. |
| 18:18.56 | LinuxNIT | well a .desktop is a simple text file |
| 18:19.06 | LinuxNIT | a .edj is compiled and has programing in it |
| 18:19.34 | Zarephath | Xterm won't fire up.. |
| 18:20.08 | LinuxNIT | hit alt+esc and run urxvt |
| 18:20.16 | LinuxNIT | thats the terminal elive uses |
| 18:20.38 | LinuxNIT | i cant remember if xterm is installed by default |
| 18:20.44 | Zarephath | I just opted for running a command and typed file-roller... |
| 18:21.03 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 18:21.32 | Zarephath | Oh crap...how to execute as a root command? the .deb is in /root so I can't access it as a regular user...gksu? |
| 18:22.01 | LinuxNIT | gksu -u root file-roller |
| 18:22.06 | LinuxNIT | or just open a terminal |
| 18:22.08 | Zarephath | Yep.. |
| 18:22.09 | LinuxNIT | urxvt |
| 18:23.02 | Zarephath | Ok I have two gzipped files..one is control.tar.zg and the other is data.tar.gz..I am guessing I select data? |
| 18:23.11 | Zarephath | *gz* |
| 18:23.14 | LinuxNIT | data |
| 18:23.34 | Zarephath | Not familiar with file-roller..just double click the .gz? |
| 18:23.41 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 18:23.45 | Zarephath | k |
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| 18:24.36 | Zarephath | double click did nothing..but right click and view shows a folder without files..let me extract the gz then open with file roller |
| 18:26.16 | Zarephath | Wow just a folder with a "dot" and the folder icon |
| 18:27.05 | LinuxNIT | open it |
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| 18:27.44 | Zarephath | Ok |
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| 18:28.14 | LinuxNIT | see the contents |
| 18:28.20 | PrinceAMD | Searching for lyrics... |
| 18:28.20 | LinuxNIT | brb |
| 18:28.37 | PrinceAMD | hi LinuxNIT |
| 18:28.46 | GPLGeek | Yarrrr! |
| 18:28.51 | Zarephath | no I can't get it to open from within file-roller...I extracted it to my downloads folder.. |
| 18:28.51 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, hi |
| 18:29.05 | PrinceAMD | Zarephath, hi |
| 18:29.12 | Zarephath | Hi |
| 18:29.31 | PrinceAMD | trog, hi |
| 18:29.36 | Zarephath | LinuxNIT: Drilled all the way into init.d folder and it has no files either...freakin' me out |
| 18:30.45 | LinuxNIT | really? |
| 18:31.01 | LinuxNIT | try opening the one in /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 18:31.08 | LinuxNIT | it should be there too |
| 18:31.19 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD: you still have the .deb for entrance you gave me? |
| 18:31.22 | LinuxNIT | i dont have it any more |
| 18:31.38 | Zarephath | Ok |
| 18:31.49 | PrinceAMD | yep :) |
| 18:31.58 | LinuxNIT | can you send it to Zarephath |
| 18:32.04 | PrinceAMD | www.elivedev.org/princeamd/entrance.deb |
| 18:32.40 | LinuxNIT | he upgraded to the new e17 but needs entrance |
| 18:32.40 | LinuxNIT | cool PrinceAMD |
| 18:32.40 | LinuxNIT | Zarephath: download that file |
| 18:32.40 | LinuxNIT | it worked for me |
| 18:32.40 | Zarephath | This is compile so I can just dpkg -i it? |
| 18:32.41 | Zarephath | *compiled* |
| 18:32.44 | Zarephath | PrinceAMD: Thanks |
| 18:32.51 | PrinceAMD | yep |
| 18:32.59 | LinuxNIT | nope |
| 18:33.04 | LinuxNIT | you cant run dpkg |
| 18:33.18 | LinuxNIT | dpkg wants the old versions of all the other files |
| 18:33.30 | LinuxNIT | (enlightenement libs) |
| 18:33.41 | LinuxNIT | so it will refuse to install it |
| 18:33.46 | LinuxNIT | you have to do it manually |
| 18:34.44 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 18:35.18 | Zarephath | Yeah but his is named "entrance.deb" I assumed it was packaged in a way that it could be installed the "regular" way..no worries..grabbing it up now |
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| 18:35.34 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, have you ever tried DragonFly? |
| 18:35.40 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD: nope |
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| 18:36.02 | LinuxNIT | Zarephath: yes a .deb installs with dpkg -i |
| 18:36.06 | LinuxNIT | however... |
| 18:36.12 | PrinceAMD | Zarephath, it was the previous build of entrance that works |
| 18:36.45 | LinuxNIT | a .deb has a control file in it that requires certain versions of certain packages.... the versions are not installed on your computer so dpkg will not install the .deb |
| 18:37.06 | Zarephath | Ok understood..thanks for the explanation.. |
| 18:38.59 | LinuxNIT | np |
| 18:40.27 | Zarephath | I assume I have to copy the files as root to put them in their respective locations? |
| 18:40.42 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 18:40.42 | PrinceAMD | yep |
| 18:41.08 | LinuxNIT | correct |
| 18:41.36 | PrinceAMD | extract data.tgz to / |
| 18:41.47 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 18:42.03 | Zarephath | e seems to favor the right mouse button over the left..I am used to double left clicking..how does one accomplish the same thing in e? When I open the file program..it asks me where..but double clicking does nothing? |
| 18:42.11 | PrinceAMD | what screen resolution do u use LinuxNIT? |
| 18:42.22 | LinuxNIT | 1024x768 |
| 18:42.26 | PrinceAMD | oh.. |
| 18:42.29 | LinuxNIT | highest my monitor gets |
| 18:42.33 | LinuxNIT | lcd laptop |
| 18:43.25 | LinuxNIT | asks you where what? |
| 18:44.26 | PrinceAMD | the last entrance theme i create works fine with 1152x864 *ONLY :( |
| 18:44.27 | PrinceAMD | i'll fix it up for 1024x768 n 1280x1024 ... sometime |
| 18:49.29 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 18:49.30 | GPLGeek | somone should unpack the compressed filesystem on the cd and then chroot into it |
| 18:49.32 | PrinceAMD | www.elivedev.org/princeamd/desktop2.jpg |
| 18:49.36 | GPLGeek | its fun |
| 18:50.11 | LinuxNIT | looks like PrinceAMD is a terminal freak |
| 18:50.13 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 18:50.22 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 18:52.05 | PrinceAMD | is there a better way to use linux? |
| 18:52.17 | LinuxNIT | gui |
| 18:52.35 | LinuxNIT | terminal is good for admin |
| 18:52.37 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 18:54.46 | GPLGeek | PrinceAMD, yes there is |
| 18:54.55 | GPLGeek | 3ddesktop with 4 terminals on each page |
| 18:56.09 | Zarephath | Uh oh...rebooted and just got to a prompt when it finished...no login screen...was this supposed to be the case..then just use startx? |
| 18:57.24 | LinuxNIT | log out and run /etc/init.d/entrance start |
| 18:57.34 | LinuxNIT | as root |
| 18:57.43 | GPLGeek | oh man I hope you didnt upgrade with "tests" |
| 18:57.44 | GPLGeek | lol |
| 18:57.50 | Zarephath | heheh |
| 18:58.00 | GPLGeek | that breaks stuff |
| 18:58.04 | LinuxNIT | i warned him about entrance |
| 18:58.08 | GPLGeek | go into the entrance config |
| 18:58.19 | GPLGeek | where is that config file located I dont have elive up at the moment |
| 18:58.20 | Zarephath | What will that do...write out a config file next time reboot is started? |
| 18:59.15 | LinuxNIT | Zarephath: it will start entrance now if it can |
| 18:59.57 | Zarephath | I see a message that says Becoming entranced: entrance. |
| 19:00.03 | Zarephath | That was it? |
| 19:00.45 | Zarephath | Just kiddin' I presume that should have started it up... |
| 19:01.13 | LinuxNIT | should have |
| 19:01.26 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek: do you know the fix for the entrance in tests? |
| 19:01.49 | GPLGeek | maybe replace entrance with entrance-start |
| 19:01.55 | GPLGeek | since you can't call it directly |
| 19:02.16 | LinuxNIT | to fix the auto logout after 10 seconds? |
| 19:02.41 | Zarephath | K lemme try that...ps ax doesn't show entrance..so it exited after execution |
| 19:02.42 | GPLGeek | that seems to be a issue that I have not gotten to yet |
| 19:02.58 | GPLGeek | I think maybe the best route would be to remove entrance |
| 19:03.02 | GPLGeek | and install gdm |
| 19:03.04 | LinuxNIT | entrance in tests starts fine |
| 19:03.07 | LinuxNIT | and it logs you in |
| 19:03.15 | LinuxNIT | but after 10 seconds it just logs you out |
| 19:03.49 | GPLGeek | because its calling enlightenment instead of enlightenment-start |
| 19:03.51 | Zarephath | On mine not even 10 seconds I reckon' |
| 19:03.54 | GPLGeek | oh i typoed up there |
| 19:03.59 | GPLGeek | i wasnt making any sense |
| 19:04.00 | LinuxNIT | oh ok |
| 19:04.03 | LinuxNIT | i see |
| 19:04.04 | GPLGeek | sorry I didnt get much sleep last night |
| 19:04.22 | LinuxNIT | Zarephath: you could try what GPLGeek is saying |
| 19:04.27 | Zarephath | Prolly up all night coding again... |
| 19:04.31 | LinuxNIT | open synatpic and tell it to reinstall entrance |
| 19:04.33 | GPLGeek | maybe replace enlightenment with enlightenment-start (not entance-start) |
| 19:04.36 | LinuxNIT | then follow his directions |
| 19:04.44 | GPLGeek | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.51 | Zarephath | K |
| 19:05.09 | LinuxNIT | Zarephath: or let him test it first |
| 19:05.13 | GPLGeek | thats why I had posted a warning about upgrading with tests |
| 19:05.20 | LinuxNIT | right... |
| 19:05.40 | LinuxNIT | i used the old entrance deb that PrinceAMD gave me and installed it manually and it worked fine |
| 19:06.05 | LinuxNIT | and i warned Zarephath about this before he upgraded so he wasnt doing it blind ;) |
| 19:06.50 | PrinceAMD | without terminal |
| 19:06.50 | PrinceAMD | dont think so |
| 19:06.53 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, and if i do as you say what will be the result |
| 19:06.55 | PrinceAMD | will it get linux up and running |
| 19:06.57 | PrinceAMD | but grub will not be install |
| 19:07.02 | Zarephath | Nor just for the record he isn't whining either..lol |
| 19:07.13 | LinuxNIT | Zarephath: :) |
| 19:07.19 | GPLGeek | wait |
| 19:07.25 | GPLGeek | entrance has nothing to do with grub |
| 19:07.38 | LinuxNIT | im not sure what PrinceAMD is refering to |
| 19:08.29 | GPLGeek | if you have grub problems remove vga=x### |
| 19:08.38 | Zarephath | Too much cafeine can do that to a person... |
| 19:08.44 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 19:08.45 | GPLGeek | but if for some reason grub doesnt load your hard drives mbr is probably dammaged |
| 19:09.29 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD: are you talking about chrooting the base dir of the iso? |
| 19:09.58 | PrinceAMD | oh...GUI that y i use e17 :D |
| 19:09.58 | PrinceAMD | well at the moment i'm my user admin so i can do both :) |
| 19:10.02 | PrinceAMD | :D |
| 19:10.08 | PrinceAMD | if u didnt say it no one else would have |
| 19:10.16 | PrinceAMD | login root |
| 19:10.18 | PrinceAMD | run killall entranced |
| 19:10.20 | PrinceAMD | then run entranced |
| 19:10.34 | PrinceAMD | Zarephath good luck .... |
| 19:10.36 | PrinceAMD | later guys |
| 19:10.38 | PrinceAMD | time to go shopping |
| 19:10.40 | PrinceAMD | xD |
| 19:11.16 | Zarephath | LinuxNIT: Are the sounds not working? |
| 19:11.21 | GPLGeek | wow |
| 19:11.27 | Zarephath | I don't hear anything when I start X |
| 19:11.29 | GPLGeek | entrance does NOT have a standard config file |
| 19:11.35 | GPLGeek | its all crazy symbols |
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| 19:16.24 | kender | hello |
| 19:16.41 | Zarephath | Hmmm..trying to set a background to stuff I have downloaded won't let me change the background..doesn't show me previews of the pictures either.. |
| 19:16.54 | Zarephath | kender: Hi |
| 19:18.33 | kender | hey Zarephath |
| 19:19.10 | GPLGeek | working with entrance is impossible |
| 19:19.43 | Zarephath | Wow...just crashed e by changing the date and the time.. |
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| 19:26.58 | Zarephath | LinuxNIT: Thanks for all the help..have to run for now... |
| 19:27.09 | Zarephath | GPLGeek: See you later.. |
| 19:27.16 | Zarephath | Bye peeps.. |
| 19:27.22 | LinuxNIT | your welcome sorry entrance didnt get working |
| 19:27.23 | GPLGeek | later |
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| 20:20.22 | GPLGeek | hey |
| 20:20.33 | GPLGeek | the next debian name is going to be "Lenny" |
| 20:20.49 | LinuxNIT | lenny? |
| 20:20.53 | LinuxNIT | odd name |
| 20:20.57 | GPLGeek | woody sarge etch sid lenny in progression |
| 20:21.15 | LinuxNIT | you left out potato |
| 20:22.31 | GPLGeek | there are less than 200 bugs to squash |
| 20:22.38 | GPLGeek | ya potato was before that |
| 20:23.00 | LinuxNIT | what was before potato? |
| 20:23.01 | GPLGeek | toy story names |
| 20:23.03 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 20:23.43 | GPLGeek | slink |
| 20:23.49 | GPLGeek | hamm |
| 20:23.50 | GPLGeek | bo |
| 20:23.52 | GPLGeek | reex |
| 20:23.55 | GPLGeek | er rex |
| 20:23.56 | GPLGeek | buzz |
| 20:24.06 | GPLGeek | I remember buzz |
| 20:24.10 | LinuxNIT | 0_0 |
| 20:24.14 | GPLGeek | that was like in 96 |
| 20:24.39 | LinuxNIT | that was before i was really using a pc |
| 20:24.40 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 20:24.52 | GPLGeek | I've been using linux since I was 13 |
| 20:24.58 | GPLGeek | debian is no stranger |
| 20:24.58 | LinuxNIT | that was when my dad knew more than I |
| 20:25.10 | GPLGeek | debian and slackware were the 2 best linuxes and still are |
| 20:25.14 | LinuxNIT | debian is our friend |
| 20:25.34 | LinuxNIT | debian and google all the way :) |
| 20:25.46 | GPLGeek | google uses ubuntu |
| 20:26.06 | GPLGeek | they have their own version they remastered |
| 20:26.07 | LinuxNIT | :( |
| 20:26.30 | LinuxNIT | lol they had to remaster it :) |
| 20:26.58 | GPLGeek | probably because it was too cutting edge and time-released |
| 20:27.06 | GPLGeek | so it was broken! |
| 20:27.13 | GPLGeek | I know why they used it too |
| 20:27.22 | GPLGeek | they needed new packages sarge was too old |
| 20:29.43 | LinuxNIT | i see |
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| 20:32.20 | ThingolF | is there a guide to using acpid or is there some gui i dont know about in elive for configuring power management? |
| 20:32.27 | GPLGeek | man we might see etch released in february |
| 20:32.45 | GPLGeek | elive acpid is just like debian etch acpid, because it is exactly that |
| 20:32.58 | GPLGeek | so the debian manuals and guides will help you best |
| 20:33.23 | ThingolF | how would i configure the monitor of a laptop to go off when closed? |
| 20:34.44 | GPLGeek | apt-get install cpufreqd cpufrequtils acpid acpi just to make sure you have them |
| 20:34.45 | GPLGeek | um... |
| 20:34.49 | GPLGeek | I dont really use power managment but im sure I can find how |
| 20:38.17 | GPLGeek | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.29 | GPLGeek | event=button/lid |
| 20:38.29 | GPLGeek | action=/etc/acpi/actions/sleep.sh %e |
| 20:38.36 | GPLGeek | that would be to sleep it |
| 20:38.42 | GPLGeek | you can make it shutdown too |
| 20:38.56 | ThingolF | yeah i just wanna put the display off not sleep |
| 20:38.59 | GPLGeek | go ahead and open /etc/acpi/events and add those and reboot |
| 20:39.02 | GPLGeek | oh.. |
| 20:39.22 | LinuxNIT | the monitor should have a manual switch that removes power from the screen when you close it |
| 20:39.46 | LinuxNIT | activated by a small bump on the screen/lid |
| 20:39.49 | GPLGeek | look at /etc/acpi/actions/sleep.sh you can edit it |
| 20:41.14 | GPLGeek | http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_acpid |
| 20:41.19 | GPLGeek | here is a good resource for you |
| 20:42.18 | GPLGeek | all it does is remove usb power and turn off the screen and switch you to console mode |
| 20:42.23 | GPLGeek | really |
| 20:42.33 | GPLGeek | so you can mod it |
| 20:44.52 | ThingolF | display doesnt go off automatically after installnig elive |
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| 20:47.29 | ThingolF | figured out why i couldnt execute bash scripts yesterday |
| 20:49.59 | LinuxNIT | whys that? |
| 20:50.05 | ThingolF | it was scite |
| 20:50.16 | ThingolF | it saves it in the wrong format |
| 20:50.30 | LinuxNIT | ive written scripts in scite before |
| 20:50.31 | ThingolF | i didnt try saving it in a different format but the default is wrong binary format |
| 20:50.37 | ThingolF | creating them with pico worked |
| 20:50.42 | ThingolF | then i could edit them in scite after |
| 20:50.53 | LinuxNIT | odd |
| 20:50.58 | ThingolF | yeah dunno |
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| 21:23.35 | ThingolF | ok what is the command to start x server? |
| 21:23.41 | ThingolF | is it startx? |
| 21:24.38 | ThingolF | i have found a script that will turn off the backlight but it makes some assumptions; one of those is the command to run x server is startx |
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| 22:17.14 | dats | re |
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| 22:51.43 | Elive_user48 | hi |
| 22:52.05 | trog | hi |
| 22:52.11 | Elive_user | hi, how are you |
| 22:52.25 | trog | dizzy :D |
| 22:52.27 | Elive_user48 | how can i disable after an idle time the suspend |
| 22:52.39 | Elive_user48 | thanx im fine |
| 22:52.55 | trog | the monitor suspend you mean ? |
| 22:53.07 | Elive_user48 | yes |
| 22:53.25 | Elive_user48 | i tried to disable screensaver butt there is none :) |
| 22:53.31 | Elive_user | I never use the chat |
| 22:53.55 | Elive_user48 | which chat |
| 22:54.19 | trog | Elive_user48: sorry, i dont know |
| 22:55.00 | Elive_user48 | trog, no problem |
| 22:55.21 | trog | Elive_user48: setvesablank may help you. open a terminal and run : "setvesablank -b off" ....could help, i'm not 100% sure |
| 22:56.30 | Elive_user48 | i tried |
| 22:56.35 | Elive_user48 | will c soon :) |
| 22:56.52 | Elive_user48 | thank you |
| 22:57.26 | trog | np |
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| 23:42.27 | Elive_user48 | trog, thank you it realy worked :) great |
| 23:42.40 | trog | cool :) glad it works |
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