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| 00:08.30 | GPLGeek | there we go |
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| 01:42.25 | lib8264q | hello all :) |
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| 01:55.13 | LinuxNIT | hello lib8264q |
| 02:00.29 | GPLGeek | since the elivecd.org site is down I've put up a Drupal CMS at elivedev.org, if you feel like contributing to this page please do so. |
| 02:01.26 | lib8264q | linux :) |
| 02:01.40 | lib8264q | sorry wa reading something |
| 02:01.45 | lib8264q | was* |
| 02:01.54 | lib8264q | i have a few ? |
| 02:02.03 | lib8264q | womdeing if anyone can help |
| 02:02.18 | LinuxNIT | possible... whats the problem |
| 02:03.54 | lib8264q | not a problem .... iv been i a few channels and herd a lot of people talking about compix beryl and xgl .... im confused as to what they are ... are they seperate desktops or do they work as addins with desktop ? |
| 02:04.05 | lib8264q | compiz* |
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| 02:04.33 | LinuxNIT | compiz and beryl are window managers |
| 02:04.41 | LinuxNIT | that work with xgl |
| 02:04.53 | LinuxNIT | compiz with xgl beryl with aiglx i believe is the way they go |
| 02:05.12 | lib8264q | ok youll have to bear with my ignorance iv just moved to linux |
| 02:05.31 | lib8264q | dr17 is a desktop ? |
| 02:05.46 | lib8264q | window manager ? |
| 02:05.54 | LinuxNIT | e17 is a window manager that has desktop features with it |
| 02:06.16 | lib8264q | ok .. |
| 02:06.25 | roxville | also known as enlightenment dr17 |
| 02:06.32 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 02:06.34 | lib8264q | yep i follow thqat ... |
| 02:06.37 | roxville | dr stands for "development release" |
| 02:06.39 | roxville | ok |
| 02:07.31 | LinuxNIT | still confused? |
| 02:07.43 | lib8264q | so do these work along with the dr17 desktop /i.e what benifits do they give you ? |
| 02:07.59 | lib8264q | as addins |
| 02:08.11 | LinuxNIT | beryl and compiz are window managers as is dr17... so no they dont work together |
| 02:08.27 | lib8264q | sorry im still thinking along the lines of m$ thinking lol |
| 02:08.45 | LinuxNIT | do you know what a window manager does? |
| 02:09.03 | lib8264q | just a gui ? |
| 02:09.13 | LinuxNIT | not quite |
| 02:09.33 | LinuxNIT | from wikipedia |
| 02:09.34 | LinuxNIT | An X window manager is software that controls the placement and appearance of windows under the X Window System, a windowing system mainly used on Unix-like systems. |
| 02:09.41 | LinuxNIT | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_manager |
| 02:10.01 | LinuxNIT | it gives you the border with the minimize, maximise and close buttons |
| 02:10.12 | LinuxNIT | allows you to minimize windows and resize them |
| 02:10.27 | LinuxNIT | in essence it allows you to manipulate (or manage) your windows |
| 02:12.35 | lib8264q | maby im wrong but i see linux much like win 3.x a graphical front end stiitng ontop of dos ????? would that seem fair ???? |
| 02:13.42 | LinuxNIT | almost.... its not just linux.... microsoft windows is still like that as well. |
| 02:13.58 | lib8264q | course it is no matter what they say lmao |
| 02:13.59 | LinuxNIT | it just does not have a variety of "window managers " for you to choose from |
| 02:14.06 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek: correct me if im wrong |
| 02:14.36 | roxville | you are wrong...not |
| 02:14.44 | LinuxNIT | do you want to see what a window is like without a window manager? |
| 02:14.49 | roxville | there are a couple of wm's for windows |
| 02:14.59 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 02:15.00 | roxville | they look like fluxbox, basically |
| 02:15.03 | LinuxNIT | ew |
| 02:15.07 | roxville | yeah |
| 02:15.16 | LinuxNIT | unless you have a really old computer |
| 02:15.17 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 02:15.39 | LinuxNIT | lib8264q: do you want to see what a window is like without a window manager? |
| 02:16.03 | lib8264q | sure |
| 02:16.14 | LinuxNIT | wait till i say go before you start ;) |
| 02:16.25 | LinuxNIT | hit control+alt+F1 |
| 02:16.26 | LinuxNIT | login |
| 02:16.47 | LinuxNIT | run: startx /usr/bin/someprogram -- :1 |
| 02:16.53 | lib8264q | soerry i thought you ment screen shot ;) im not near the lappy at the min ... |
| 02:17.03 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 02:17.16 | lib8264q | lol |
| 02:17.20 | LinuxNIT | one sec |
| 02:17.27 | lib8264q | never mind iv an idea |
| 02:18.19 | GPLGeek | one second LinuxNIT |
| 02:18.24 | GPLGeek | i need to catch up in some reading |
| 02:18.25 | lib8264q | hold on a sec you can run programs in command line with a basic window ? |
| 02:19.30 | LinuxNIT | well the command i put up there will start a x server with just a single program running |
| 02:19.34 | GPLGeek | lib8264q, linux is anything you want it to be |
| 02:19.38 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 02:20.15 | GPLGeek | linux can be juts a CLI (Command Line) |
| 02:20.25 | GPLGeek | s/juts/just |
| 02:20.38 | GPLGeek | x11 however is a window manager |
| 02:20.44 | lib8264q | iv descovered that recently ... i must say id herd of it a long time ago ...but never got round to it .... lappy was startng to get a bit past it ... so installed /tried a live cd ... and i must say very impressed with it |
| 02:20.47 | GPLGeek | so is xgl/compiz |
| 02:21.12 | GPLGeek | er |
| 02:21.28 | GPLGeek | well you can use e17 or gnome or kde window managers, x11 enables them to work |
| 02:21.38 | GPLGeek | x11 is our video back-end |
| 02:21.51 | GPLGeek | Many linux users never see a console. It's all graphical. |
| 02:22.00 | lib8264q | see this is where im confused what iv resad is that part works along with the xserver ??????? |
| 02:22.09 | GPLGeek | x11 is the xserver |
| 02:22.26 | GPLGeek | the xserver is a "daemon" or process that runs and allows you to run a windows manager |
| 02:22.50 | GPLGeek | a window manager should have enough tools to open a browser, check your email, play games, etc. |
| 02:23.00 | LinuxNIT | when you have seen what its like |
| 02:23.11 | LinuxNIT | ignore that |
| 02:23.15 | GPLGeek | linux is in no way related to dos |
| 02:23.21 | lib8264q | console would not worry me only iv not enough experience with or know commands |
| 02:23.23 | LinuxNIT | http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sskj2.png |
| 02:23.23 | GPLGeek | it does not run on dos |
| 02:23.26 | LinuxNIT | there you go lib8264q |
| 02:23.45 | GPLGeek | the console is really sweet in linux |
| 02:23.46 | LinuxNIT | that is gnome-terminal without an xserver |
| 02:23.47 | GPLGeek | easy to use |
| 02:23.52 | LinuxNIT | that is gnome-terminal without an window manager |
| 02:23.58 | GPLGeek | here is a break down of common commands |
| 02:24.17 | GPLGeek | ls -List the directory like dir was for dos |
| 02:24.37 | lib8264q | have you a site that would list commands ? |
| 02:24.39 | GPLGeek | but ls has some cool options like coloring -c, -a to see hidden files, etc |
| 02:24.48 | GPLGeek | any file that starts with a period is a hidden file |
| 02:25.03 | GPLGeek | so if there were a hidden directory say .mygameinfo |
| 02:25.14 | lib8264q | =to atrtrib +s +h +r |
| 02:25.19 | GPLGeek | you could cd .mygameinfo to change directory into that folder |
| 02:25.21 | lib8264q | attrib* |
| 02:26.03 | GPLGeek | http://www.ss64.com/bash/ |
| 02:26.08 | GPLGeek | there is a list of bash commands |
| 02:27.04 | GPLGeek | you should look up 'bash' |
| 02:27.23 | GPLGeek | bash is a way to script command-line stuff. |
| 02:27.45 | GPLGeek | http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html |
| 02:28.32 | lib8264q | cool this it all the boring stuff that id read lol ;) |
| 02:28.38 | GPLGeek | http://tldp.org/LDP/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary/html/index.html |
| 02:28.47 | GPLGeek | tldp is your friend "the linux documentation project" |
| 02:29.11 | GPLGeek | honestly using linux is easier than windows |
| 02:29.35 | GPLGeek | no spyware, no viruses, if anything does go wrong it tells you what went wrong or gives you something you can paste into google |
| 02:29.42 | lib8264q | the gui is about 10 times easier (even from my limited experience ) |
| 02:29.43 | GPLGeek | and the CLI is awesome. |
| 02:29.59 | GPLGeek | Well... the GUI |
| 02:29.59 | GPLGeek | there are many of them |
| 02:30.27 | lib8264q | sorry as i say im still new youll have to excuse my ignorance :S |
| 02:30.36 | GPLGeek | you can use E17 (experimental), gnome, kde, fluxbox (for power users), fvwm |
| 02:30.40 | GPLGeek | dont worry about it |
| 02:30.51 | GPLGeek | there is no sorry, there is only learning =) |
| 02:31.03 | lib8264q | cool :) |
| 02:31.03 | GPLGeek | You have to start somewhere.... |
| 02:31.25 | GPLGeek | In microsoft world if you dont know something, you are an idiot and expected to pay. |
| 02:31.40 | GPLGeek | in linux if you do not know something you are the smartest person in the world for asking for help |
| 02:31.46 | roxville | lib8264q, they ARE forgiving...i have used elive for 2 years, and am STILL ignorant |
| 02:31.54 | GPLGeek | because its the community that is powerful. |
| 02:32.01 | roxville | and they love me for who i am :D |
| 02:32.18 | lib8264q | lol @rox |
| 02:32.23 | GPLGeek | the cool thing about linux is its FREE |
| 02:32.24 | roxville | so just by being a nice dude, you'll be fine :) |
| 02:32.33 | LinuxNIT | roxville: compare yourself to where you were when you started.... |
| 02:32.38 | GPLGeek | Debian and Elive, etc... Never have to pay |
| 02:32.42 | LinuxNIT | you know a heck of a lot more now than you did then |
| 02:32.56 | GPLGeek | however if you want something that you pay for and get "corporate support" there are things like linspire |
| 02:33.19 | roxville | and linspire just opene up CNR... |
| 02:33.26 | lib8264q | ok you said about bash ... that i asume is seperate form command line or same ? |
| 02:33.29 | GPLGeek | roxville, ya you've pretty much mastered a lot of programs and know your way around everything else |
| 02:33.36 | GPLGeek | Linspire is a good company. |
| 02:34.10 | GPLGeek | there will be the corporate types who demand to pay for a OS, and that's why they are there. |
| 02:34.21 | GPLGeek | some people think a heavy price tag means quality |
| 02:34.32 | LinuxNIT | lib8264q: bash is the defualt shell(command line) |
| 02:34.39 | GPLGeek | and from that gain linspire does give a lot back to the community |
| 02:37.05 | lib8264q | as i said iv just started using .... fair enough some of the programs arnt as well polished as what youd get for a windows based machine but they are FREE and can do as good a job as windows equivelent from what im seen so far |
| 02:37.36 | lib8264q | im just kicking myself as to why i did not start to use sooner |
| 02:37.47 | roxville | i think CNR could be cool for elive |
| 02:37.55 | roxville | lib8264q, i kick myself too |
| 02:38.02 | roxville | we could start a club |
| 02:38.07 | lib8264q | lol |
| 02:38.18 | roxville | or...get on with it, bite the bullet, and start learning |
| 02:39.24 | lib8264q | ok i have a ? about program to use for something i need to do |
| 02:39.57 | lib8264q | i know you goign to say just use a mac ..lol |
| 02:40.48 | lib8264q | i must admit i use them on my course but i hate them .S |
| 02:40.58 | lib8264q | cant get used to |
| 02:40.58 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 02:41.23 | roxville | elive on a 24' imac...... |
| 02:41.28 | roxville | drooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllllllllllllllllllll |
| 02:41.35 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 02:42.48 | lib8264q | hey dont knock it i know someone who has a mac think it might be bigger that 24 ;) he might be up for trying live cd on |
| 02:43.18 | GPLGeek | I get 25% off macs |
| 02:43.22 | GPLGeek | I still dont have one |
| 02:43.24 | LinuxNIT | well it wont run elive unless it has the new intel cpu but even then im not sure |
| 02:43.28 | lib8264q | but dont think install although could put on another drive lol |
| 02:43.55 | lib8264q | can be installed onto usb ? |
| 02:43.58 | GPLGeek | I would not expect elive to run on mac at all |
| 02:44.08 | GPLGeek | maybe with bootcamp |
| 02:44.16 | lib8264q | hmmmmm |
| 02:44.23 | LinuxNIT | we tried to get someone in here to try it with bootcamp but i havent heard of any results |
| 02:44.23 | GPLGeek | but you would need custom drivers |
| 02:44.31 | lib8264q | think the use parallels ??????? |
| 02:44.36 | lib8264q | they* |
| 02:44.49 | GPLGeek | it would be easier just to use debian etch and then getting e17 from cvs |
| 02:44.51 | lib8264q | for to run windows |
| 02:45.31 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek: probalby so... but why not try elive and see what happens :) |
| 02:45.51 | GPLGeek | because im not payin for mac hardware to use linux |
| 02:45.57 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 02:45.58 | GPLGeek | mac hardware is kinda lame |
| 02:46.17 | GPLGeek | I'd rather get a dell with a 22" monitor |
| 02:46.21 | GPLGeek | cheaper and faster |
| 02:46.28 | LinuxNIT | i thought apple had good quality hardware? |
| 02:46.32 | LinuxNIT | am i mistaken? |
| 02:46.47 | GPLGeek | they have SPECIFIC hardware so its like guarenteed to be stable |
| 02:46.52 | GPLGeek | the hardware is ok but... |
| 02:46.59 | GPLGeek | having the computer and screen all in one is asking for disaster |
| 02:47.02 | GPLGeek | what if the screen goes bad? |
| 02:47.14 | GPLGeek | I hate the mouse |
| 02:47.21 | GPLGeek | why not get a dell and install macosx and linux on it |
| 02:47.25 | LinuxNIT | well not all of their computers are all-in-one |
| 02:47.40 | GPLGeek | in which case you would be using the xeon processor |
| 02:47.43 | lib8264q | amm ok i have a small preoject if i needed to create a file that has images (that i have taken) and use a music background and to be able to save it as a *.mov so it can be played in a mac .... what could i use in linux todo ????? |
| 02:47.46 | LinuxNIT | and yeah the mouse is worthless |
| 02:47.48 | GPLGeek | or getting a mac mini |
| 02:47.56 | GPLGeek | and they dont even run enemy territory |
| 02:48.08 | GPLGeek | mac is supposed to be good for video/etc but |
| 02:48.16 | GPLGeek | they default with low ram and low video memory |
| 02:48.21 | GPLGeek | and to upgrade is a arm and a leg |
| 02:48.27 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 02:48.43 | lib8264q | my frinds mac has 4gb orf ram |
| 02:48.47 | GPLGeek | i can get a SLI system with a dual core cpu and 3x more storage and twice the memory for the same price as a base mac |
| 02:49.34 | lib8264q | bassicaly iv to create a presentation of my work ... |
| 02:50.31 | GPLGeek | im saying they are good, i'd love to have one... but its not worth as much money value even though they cost more. |
| 02:50.32 | lib8264q | but it has to be done for a mac ... as its going to be run on then marked |
| 02:50.58 | roxville | i just love the way the imacs look |
| 02:50.59 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek: yeah thats why i havent got one... i dont like the price tag |
| 02:51.05 | LinuxNIT | roxville: lol |
| 02:51.20 | GPLGeek | mac notebooks should have 2 mouse buttons |
| 02:51.32 | LinuxNIT | dont the brand new ones? |
| 02:51.33 | roxville | i could get a cheap work light at big lots for 5 bucks, but i'd prefer to have a nice lamp in the living room |
| 02:51.38 | GPLGeek | i dont know. |
| 02:51.45 | LinuxNIT | hmm i thought id heard they did |
| 02:51.59 | lib8264q | any ideas aon which program i could use for my ? |
| 02:52.23 | GPLGeek | presentations... you can use openoffice |
| 02:52.30 | GPLGeek | it would work on pc mac linux |
| 02:52.43 | lib8264q | can i save as *.mov ? |
| 02:52.55 | GPLGeek | or if it needs to be technical you can use some of the many cad programs or blender to make something more advanced |
| 02:52.58 | lib8264q | has to be played in quicktime |
| 02:52.59 | GPLGeek | oh movie editing |
| 02:53.07 | GPLGeek | I think cinerella? or something |
| 02:53.27 | GPLGeek | I'm no audio/video editor.... I spend most my time in a console or gaming. |
| 02:54.06 | lib8264q | neither am i but partof my course so i have to do it :S |
| 02:54.10 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek: one extreme to the other aye? no graphics to extreme graphics |
| 02:54.14 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 02:54.20 | lib8264q | lol |
| 02:54.53 | GPLGeek | for years I was just using fluxbox with a bunch of RXVT windows open |
| 02:55.07 | GPLGeek | and the next page was a 2d graphic packet sniffer |
| 02:55.12 | GPLGeek | with mapping |
| 02:55.20 | GPLGeek | and sometimes a hex editor |
| 02:55.36 | GPLGeek | I was such a hacker.... =p |
| 02:55.46 | GPLGeek | Somone was gaming on a wifi |
| 02:55.54 | GPLGeek | I logged in and started sending packets |
| 02:56.02 | GPLGeek | making him jump/shoot/run |
| 02:56.08 | GPLGeek | it was great |
| 02:56.24 | GPLGeek | switched him to knife weapon over and over |
| 02:57.24 | lib8264q | i know linux dosent support as my things as windows based .. can quicktime or is there an alternitive to for linux ? |
| 02:58.15 | lib8264q | sorry i know theres are all useless ? but im trying to pick brains |
| 02:58.40 | LinuxNIT | you can play pretty much any video file... i just dont know what to use to make video files |
| 02:59.21 | lib8264q | experienced brains is what i ment to say |
| 02:59.35 | lib8264q | hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 03:01.47 | lib8264q | speaking of games ... any good sites for games for linux ???? |
| 03:02.11 | LinuxNIT | i googled for create movie linux and the first link reccommend elive as a good source for the software :) |
| 03:02.16 | LinuxNIT | http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/13/2129256&tid=39 |
| 03:05.08 | GPLGeek | my dog likes carrots and he's begged every damn one out of my salad.... im such a pushover. |
| 03:05.12 | GPLGeek | no carrots for me |
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| 03:05.42 | lib8264q | hmmm that a great link but i just need to create from still images |
| 03:05.51 | GPLGeek | happy-penguin.org |
| 03:05.54 | GPLGeek | linux gaming site |
| 03:06.12 | GPLGeek | apt-get install nexuiz |
| 03:07.38 | LinuxNIT | i think warsow is in the repos |
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| 03:07.51 | GPLGeek | apt-get install dgen zsnes atank |
| 03:08.02 | GPLGeek | dgen is a genesis emulator to play sega games on linux |
| 03:08.08 | GPLGeek | zsnes is for super nintendo games |
| 03:08.47 | lib8264q | iv noticed a few emulatros on the desktop ... they play the standard windows roms ? |
| 03:10.35 | GPLGeek | dosbox will let you play dos games |
| 03:10.51 | GPLGeek | elive comes with wine which can be used to run windows games and programs |
| 03:11.00 | GPLGeek | it's not perfect |
| 03:11.05 | GPLGeek | but it works for most things |
| 03:11.08 | lib8264q | yea iv read up on ... |
| 03:12.36 | lib8264q | only ones i really need would be pshop and illustrator think inksacpe and gimp/gimpshop are pretty much same |
| 03:13.02 | lib8264q | inkscape* |
| 03:13.29 | GPLGeek | most people who use gimp for more than a month on production end up staying with it rather than going back to photoshop |
| 03:13.55 | GPLGeek | disney/pixar had ordered a bunch of linux machines to develop on |
| 03:14.11 | GPLGeek | I guess its gotten to the point that open software is better than macs for such content development |
| 03:14.17 | GPLGeek | im sure they still use most the macs |
| 03:14.45 | lib8264q | i have to use on my course as INDUSTRY STANDARD but i hate them ... sorry lol |
| 03:14.46 | GPLGeek | but to see linux entering the scene shows its quality |
| 03:15.23 | GPLGeek | I enjoy using everything |
| 03:15.30 | lib8264q | iv used for a couple of years now and i still can get the beachball ofdeath roflmao |
| 03:15.32 | GPLGeek | My main environment may be linux but I'll use others |
| 03:15.57 | lib8264q | cant* |
| 03:16.27 | lib8264q | sorry cant =can |
| 03:16.53 | GPLGeek | or maybe we can erace the past 4 lines |
| 03:17.05 | lib8264q | lol |
| 03:20.10 | lib8264q | i noticed you said earlier about no virus ... (windows thinking again) is there virus /firewalls ???? |
| 03:22.04 | roxville | lib8264q, no spyware, adware, hijacks or viruses |
| 03:22.16 | roxville | it's awesome |
| 03:22.54 | roxville | still a good idea to have a firewall, but other than that... you're good :) |
| 03:23.21 | lib8264q | any one stand out as being easy to use / best ? |
| 03:23.43 | lib8264q | sorry i know its all basic but to me it inforamtion |
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| 03:33.39 | GPLGeek | lib8264q, whatever the debian manual says, use |
| 03:33.48 | GPLGeek | that way you can have some how-to and referance |
| 03:34.02 | GPLGeek | but generaly you dont have to worry about it |
| 03:34.17 | lib8264q | iv had a look most of what imseeing seems to be for neworks not stand alone ... icop ????? |
| 03:34.37 | lib8264q | sorry ipcop |
| 03:36.44 | lib8264q | anyhow ... its getting clate here just like to thankyous for your time ... im sure you have more important things to do just want to say thanks forputting up with such simple ? |
| 03:36.57 | GPLGeek | see you later |
| 03:36.59 | GPLGeek | have fun |
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| 03:40.19 | Tronyx | evening |
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| 03:58.00 | GPLGeek | hey princeAMD |
| 03:58.12 | GPLGeek | check out http://elivedev.org/ its got a cms on it |
| 03:58.16 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, hey |
| 03:58.17 | GPLGeek | make a username |
| 03:58.20 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 03:58.21 | GPLGeek | ill make you an admin |
| 03:58.26 | PrinceAMD | kool |
| 03:58.56 | GPLGeek | the community has been building the site, AKA Roxville, Me, and LinuxNIT, with input from other users. |
| 03:59.15 | PrinceAMD | sweet :) |
| 03:59.20 | PrinceAMD | WOW |
| 03:59.21 | *** join/#elive elmo40 (n=elmo40@CPE00095b535851-CM000039f56261.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 03:59.23 | PrinceAMD | WICKED |
| 03:59.42 | GPLGeek | I figure it's a good investment since thana's site goes down a lot |
| 04:00.08 | GPLGeek | i'd like people to add on to elivedev.org if they have any how-tos, forum topics, stories, info, etc |
| 04:00.29 | GPLGeek | I dont really intend this just as a temp until thana gets back and fixes his |
| 04:00.37 | GPLGeek | I think we should always have a alternate site. |
| 04:00.37 | PrinceAMD | cool |
| 04:00.44 | PrinceAMD | my user name is princeamd |
| 04:00.48 | GPLGeek | one the community can add modules and stuff on to |
| 04:01.12 | GPLGeek | ya you are already an admin |
| 04:01.21 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 04:01.25 | GPLGeek | have been for 32 seconds |
| 04:01.31 | GPLGeek | you didnt notice? |
| 04:01.46 | PrinceAMD | no |
| 04:01.49 | GPLGeek | =p |
| 04:03.27 | GPLGeek | you know what would be cool is if I used a frames/iframe hack to make those tabs work without switching the page... like ajax |
| 04:04.10 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 04:04.14 | PrinceAMD | that would be cool |
| 04:04.29 | PrinceAMD | well the site looks GOOD, better than the last :D, |
| 04:04.56 | GPLGeek | my idea was to let the community make it how they want. |
| 04:05.01 | GPLGeek | and it worked |
| 04:05.06 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 04:06.00 | PrinceAMD | http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=3434 lol My Screenshot :D |
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| 04:07.01 | elmo40 | iframe? you can do it with CSS, or javascript. |
| 04:07.23 | elmo40 | what site are you talking about anyways? ;) |
| 04:07.32 | PrinceAMD | www.elivedev.org |
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| 04:10.18 | GPLGeek | ignore that squggly x |
| 04:10.25 | GPLGeek | that is just me testing where a image might go |
| 04:10.51 | LinuxNIT | wow GPLGeek i have to say that looks tons better than it did earlier |
| 04:11.07 | roxville | ahem... |
| 04:11.43 | LinuxNIT | go roxville |
| 04:11.48 | roxville | :) |
| 04:12.01 | LinuxNIT | and you call yourself ignorant.... meh |
| 04:12.33 | roxville | well... you can't measure my blood pressure/heart rate right now... |
| 04:12.51 | LinuxNIT | irrelevant |
| 04:12.52 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 04:13.18 | GPLGeek | ok the x is gone =p |
| 04:13.29 | GPLGeek | we may have a elive logo for that spot, what do you think? |
| 04:13.45 | GPLGeek | that or I was thinking of a "Open Source" branding with sideways text |
| 04:13.58 | PrinceAMD | lol Elive is not really Free |
| 04:14.13 | PrinceAMD | all the Source is not opened :) |
| 04:15.03 | GPLGeek | the base, debian etch is open |
| 04:15.10 | GPLGeek | and there are a few proprietary things on top of it |
| 04:15.37 | PrinceAMD | ok... |
| 04:15.54 | elmo40 | rox, css is nice to work with! |
| 04:15.54 | PrinceAMD | let me get a look at the image when u guys are done |
| 04:16.07 | GPLGeek | ya we should just do elive logo OR a gplgeek is cool logo |
| 04:16.23 | elmo40 | prince, your page (princeamd.gplgeek.com) what is that? |
| 04:16.42 | PrinceAMD | my ip domain |
| 04:16.51 | GPLGeek | it points to his ip address |
| 04:16.57 | GPLGeek | using my server which caches it and makes it faster |
| 04:17.02 | PrinceAMD | try princeamd.gplgeek.com:83/ that works :D |
| 04:17.11 | PrinceAMD | exactually :) |
| 04:17.27 | PrinceAMD | all thanks go to the big man here GPLGeeK!!!! |
| 04:17.49 | GPLGeek | I can't blush |
| 04:17.51 | elmo40 | but i cant grab anythign! |
| 04:17.53 | GPLGeek | I forgot how |
| 04:17.53 | elmo40 | it times out |
| 04:17.59 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 04:18.04 | PrinceAMD | server down i guess |
| 04:18.08 | elmo40 | :/ |
| 04:18.14 | GPLGeek | chm=windowshelpfile eww |
| 04:18.19 | PrinceAMD | apache down |
| 04:18.20 | GPLGeek | actually |
| 04:18.23 | GPLGeek | it works fine |
| 04:18.25 | PrinceAMD | let me fix that |
| 04:18.28 | GPLGeek | IT WORKS FINE |
| 04:18.32 | GPLGeek | dont do anything |
| 04:18.36 | PrinceAMD_1 | ok |
| 04:18.37 | PrinceAMD_1 | sorry |
| 04:18.41 | elmo40 | prince, that image at linuxtracker, is that yours? |
| 04:18.47 | PrinceAMD_1 | this is server :D |
| 04:18.54 | PrinceAMD_1 | yes |
| 04:19.02 | PrinceAMD_1 | i'm the screenshot guy |
| 04:19.12 | elmo40 | what term are you using? i see the xfce mouse in it ;) |
| 04:19.27 | elmo40 | the upper right corner |
| 04:19.38 | PrinceAMD | Eterm |
| 04:19.45 | PrinceAMD | no |
| 04:19.47 | PrinceAMD | gnome-terminal |
| 04:19.56 | elmo40 | ahh, that is why the mouse it there |
| 04:20.03 | elmo40 | you like that one better? |
| 04:20.42 | PrinceAMD | no, it just have the tab instead of opening 2 terminal open 1 and do 2-3-5-6 things at a time |
| 04:20.55 | PrinceAMD | like tty1 tty2 |
| 04:21.06 | PrinceAMD | but Eterm is better it's lighter |
| 04:21.13 | PrinceAMD | but the tab feature in it would ROCK! |
| 04:21.21 | PrinceAMD | or slow it down :( |
| 04:21.45 | GPLGeek | nah ill do something else |
| 04:21.54 | GPLGeek | i dont want to do that tab thing |
| 04:22.03 | GPLGeek | people can just open in firefox tabs if they want |
| 04:22.18 | PrinceAMD | yes |
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| 04:22.41 | PrinceAMD | i think it 1 fire fox 5 pages use less memory than 5 firefox with 5 pages |
| 04:23.50 | roxville | i think the problem is the utf-8 support |
| 04:27.04 | elmo40 | utf-8, what is so special about it? |
| 04:27.27 | PrinceAMD | i dont know...:( |
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| 04:30.43 | PrinceAMD | roxville, do normal gnome icon themes work on the tests version of e17 in elive respo |
| 04:34.15 | roxville | not sure PrinceAMD ...ask LinuxNIT what he did to make exquisite work in e17 test version |
| 04:34.18 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD: yes assuming the iconthem has an icon for the program |
| 04:34.27 | roxville | :) |
| 04:34.40 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 04:34.58 | PrinceAMD | well i'm going to check it out |
| 04:35.19 | PrinceAMD | or convert icons if needed and make a package OSX icons :) |
| 04:35.37 | LinuxNIT | i tried some themes and often times i would find that they were missing a icon for several programs |
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| 04:36.03 | LinuxNIT | this can be fixed in part by specifying a backup theme inside the current theme |
| 04:36.05 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 04:36.27 | PrinceAMD | hm.. |
| 04:36.27 | LinuxNIT | assuming you have the backup theme installed as well ;) |
| 04:37.02 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 04:37.09 | PrinceAMD | well i'll work on it now and clean my room later in the day |
| 04:37.52 | LinuxNIT | ps you specify backup themes in the index file ;) |
| 04:38.44 | PrinceAMD | ok thanks for the guide |
| 04:38.56 | LinuxNIT | no problem |
| 04:42.45 | Elive_user65 | can anyone help me set up rxvt as my default when I open a terminal session? |
| 04:47.40 | roxville | Tronyx, elive uses urxvt as default... or so i thought |
| 04:48.14 | roxville | no, rxvt |
| 04:48.25 | roxville | at least that what mine says |
| 04:48.48 | roxville | open the terminal, click on the icon in the upper left corner |
| 04:48.56 | roxville | choose "edit icon" |
| 04:49.09 | roxville | there you'll see the executable |
| 04:49.31 | Tronyx | ah, thank you very much |
| 04:49.56 | roxville | :) |
| 04:53.39 | elmo40 | prince, i still cant download any eBooks from your site |
| 04:54.28 | PrinceAMD | elmo40, is the page loading? |
| 04:54.35 | elmo40 | it does load |
| 04:54.48 | PrinceAMD | can u see the ebooks? |
| 04:55.03 | elmo40 | i see the large list of them |
| 04:55.13 | elmo40 | when i click, it loads...loads...loads... |
| 04:55.17 | elmo40 | what is your bandwidth? |
| 04:55.26 | PrinceAMD | kool my upload is 12-15Kbps |
| 04:55.35 | elmo40 | that is why it times out! |
| 04:55.38 | PrinceAMD | i'm downloading rightnow |
| 04:55.52 | PrinceAMD | it times out when i'm downloading |
| 04:56.01 | elmo40 | gorrible! |
| 04:56.02 | PrinceAMD | check in 5 sec |
| 04:56.18 | elmo40 | *h |
| 04:56.25 | elmo40 | why so slow? |
| 04:56.36 | PrinceAMD | bandwith limit |
| 04:56.49 | elmo40 | maybe i should host it for ya ;) |
| 04:57.02 | elmo40 | 250k up (last time i measured, anyways) |
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| 04:57.56 | PrinceAMD | elmo40, cool |
| 04:58.09 | PrinceAMD | maybe u should then |
| 05:00.12 | PrinceAMD | elmo40, what book are u downloading |
| 05:01.19 | roxville | PrinceAMD, have you tried the spinning globe icon? |
| 05:01.43 | PrinceAMD | roxville, yes :) |
| 05:01.48 | PrinceAMD | i tired all :D |
| 05:01.54 | roxville | :D |
| 05:01.55 | PrinceAMD | dont like notes |
| 05:02.08 | roxville | i ehhh... have a mod for ya |
| 05:02.19 | PrinceAMD | :D |
| 05:02.19 | PrinceAMD | send |
| 05:02.24 | PrinceAMD | send !!!! |
| 05:02.35 | roxville | i took the exquisite firefox icon and cut a hole where the globe is |
| 05:02.50 | roxville | and i chnaged the size of the spinning globe |
| 05:03.00 | roxville | hear me out... |
| 05:03.16 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 05:03.18 | roxville | but... idk how to include the fox image |
| 05:03.20 | PrinceAMD | keep going |
| 05:03.27 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 05:03.28 | roxville | in the edc |
| 05:03.48 | elmo40 | prince, MANY of them ;) |
| 05:03.49 | roxville | the globe needs to be BEHIND the fox |
| 05:03.50 | PrinceAMD | send it maybe i'll finish it for yah |
| 05:04.04 | roxville | ok, i need yer email |
| 05:04.29 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 05:04.33 | PrinceAMD | i think i can do that |
| 05:05.04 | PrinceAMD | the code should be similar to the one of the animated terminal |
| 05:05.33 | roxville | yeah, it's not that much different |
| 05:05.40 | roxville | it's very clean |
| 05:06.04 | PrinceAMD | cool |
| 05:06.19 | PrinceAMD | princeamd@hotmail.com u can send there |
| 05:06.48 | roxville | cool |
| 05:07.28 | PrinceAMD | elmo40, finish downloading? |
| 05:09.01 | GPLGeek | http://www.elivedev.org/linuxnit/index.php flashy new download list/manager |
| 05:09.35 | PrinceAMD | nice |
| 05:09.42 | PrinceAMD | that's a code i would hijack |
| 05:09.47 | PrinceAMD | or script |
| 05:10.26 | roxville | ok, it's on it's way |
| 05:10.27 | PrinceAMD | http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/ = page not found :((((((( |
| 05:10.57 | PrinceAMD | where did my files do?... |
| 05:11.07 | PrinceAMD | it's out of space |
| 05:11.11 | PrinceAMD | NO.............. |
| 05:11.18 | GPLGeek | http://elivedev.org/AutoIndex.7z |
| 05:11.21 | GPLGeek | there you go |
| 05:11.26 | roxville | relax, they're working on it |
| 05:11.39 | GPLGeek | princeAMD that's configured already to work on my server |
| 05:11.43 | GPLGeek | so you dont have to config it |
| 05:12.04 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 05:12.27 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, did u take down http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/ |
| 05:12.47 | GPLGeek | no my cms did |
| 05:12.53 | PrinceAMD | damn |
| 05:12.54 | PrinceAMD | bad code |
| 05:12.54 | GPLGeek | if you dont have a index.html or index.php it takes over |
| 05:13.01 | GPLGeek | want that file manager thing? |
| 05:13.02 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 05:13.03 | GPLGeek | i can upload it |
| 05:13.10 | PrinceAMD | cool |
| 05:13.14 | PrinceAMD | do your thing |
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| 05:15.38 | PrinceAMD | roxville, i cant extract the .tar.gz u sent |
| 05:15.45 | PrinceAMD | tar: This does not look like a tar archive |
| 05:15.45 | PrinceAMD | tar: Skipping to next header |
| 05:15.45 | PrinceAMD | tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors |
| 05:16.21 | elmo40 | going to sleep... |
| 05:16.27 | GPLGeek | later elmo40 |
| 05:16.52 | GPLGeek | princeAMD 403832 operations complete |
| 05:16.58 | GPLGeek | your file manager should work now |
| 05:17.38 | GPLGeek | there is a way to hide files or directories too |
| 05:18.11 | GPLGeek | hidden_files file |
| 05:18.21 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek delete .de and .files because i cant |
| 05:18.30 | roxville | weird |
| 05:18.43 | roxville | not with archive manger either? |
| 05:18.49 | PrinceAMD | roxville send via irc or upload to elivedev |
| 05:18.50 | GPLGeek | Purged 2 directories, recursive: OK |
| 05:18.54 | PrinceAMD | nope |
| 05:19.24 | GPLGeek | oh well |
| 05:19.28 | GPLGeek | they are logs and cache |
| 05:19.29 | GPLGeek | lol |
| 05:19.32 | GPLGeek | for the ftp session |
| 05:19.35 | GPLGeek | they will be regenerated |
| 05:19.52 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 05:20.07 | PrinceAMD | roxville, can u send again |
| 05:20.16 | PrinceAMD | maybe compress in zip or something |
| 05:20.38 | GPLGeek | there you go |
| 05:20.40 | GPLGeek | that should be better |
| 05:20.53 | GPLGeek | http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/index.php?dir= should work |
| 05:20.54 | PrinceAMD | thanks :) |
| 05:20.56 | GPLGeek | and look neat |
| 05:21.06 | GPLGeek | I just used the hidden_files file to specify to hide them |
| 05:21.08 | PrinceAMD | i see i see |
| 05:21.18 | PrinceAMD | ok |
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| 05:23.49 | roxville | ok, zip sent |
| 05:24.03 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 05:24.06 | PrinceAMD | works |
| 05:25.02 | PrinceAMD | roxville, i'll work on it now |
| 05:28.20 | roxville | cool :) |
| 05:34.21 | GPLGeek | ok now i got something cool |
| 05:34.32 | GPLGeek | im going to add a file bin to the drupal site. |
| 05:35.05 | GPLGeek | and specific power users will have a ftp account they can log in and upload files as long as they are ok as far as its elive related and it's good content with good licences |
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| 05:44.07 | PrinceAMD | roxville, ok i got the fox blinking all that is left it to get up all the time and the world spinning like hell |
| 05:44.25 | roxville | lol, blinking? |
| 05:44.48 | roxville | all i thought, was that the globe would spin in there... |
| 05:45.28 | PrinceAMD | adding the spinning now |
| 05:48.55 | Tronyx | with the site being down, is it still possible for us to donate? |
| 05:49.24 | PrinceAMD | roxville, blinking with fade and spinning :D |
| 05:49.31 | roxville | LOL |
| 05:49.37 | LinuxNIT | lol PrinceAMD |
| 05:49.39 | roxville | ok send me back!!!!!!!!!! |
| 05:50.11 | roxville | Tronyx, no... you have to wait till Thanatermesis (the dev) comes back from his vacation |
| 05:50.21 | Tronyx | alright, thank you |
| 05:50.30 | roxville | no, thank YOU! |
| 05:50.44 | PrinceAMD | roxville, i'll send it as soon as i get this sucker to stop blinking |
| 05:50.49 | Tronyx | no, seriously, THANK YOU!<---72 pt font |
| 05:51.45 | Tronyx | I think if there were a distro that would make me make my windows machine my linux machine, this would be it... |
| 05:52.02 | roxville | hehe |
| 05:52.07 | PrinceAMD | roxville, looks like i have to loop something |
| 05:52.10 | PrinceAMD | dont know what though |
| 05:52.15 | Tronyx | still too new to make that decision just yet though >.< |
| 05:52.41 | Tronyx | god, i really need to get my homework done... |
| 05:52.51 | roxville | Tronyx, i have used it for two years now... i log into windows MAYBE once/3 months |
| 05:53.02 | roxville | sometimes i go 6 months... |
| 05:53.17 | LinuxNIT | Tronyx: did you install elive yet? |
| 05:53.40 | roxville | you can double boot, y'know... |
| 05:53.46 | LinuxNIT | (you can run it along side windows if you didnt know) |
| 05:54.16 | Tronyx | yea, i'm running it on an 800 mhz, 128 ram old HP machine |
| 05:54.45 | roxville | LOL PrinceAMD the fox is blinking...you must have used code from the terminal icon! |
| 05:55.06 | Tronyx | i dual-boot XP and ubuntu on my better machine, though I rarely use ubuntu, haven't touched it in months, as of now I use a kvm switch for going back and forth from xp to elive |
| 05:55.07 | roxville | Tronyx, with some more ram, that machine will run GREAT |
| 05:55.39 | PrinceAMD | roxville, yes i did now that's all i have to fix and this icon is ready to launch |
| 05:55.45 | Tronyx | is there a 64 bit distro for it though? My better computer is an amd 64 3400+ 1024 ram |
| 05:55.56 | Tronyx | rather, is i38 compatible with 64 bit processors |
| 05:55.58 | roxville | hehe, pretty good guess, then :) |
| 05:56.10 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 05:56.12 | roxville | Tronyx, right now...no |
| 05:56.26 | Tronyx | aw bummer |
| 05:56.30 | PrinceAMD | it looks cool but it would freak users out |
| 05:56.38 | Tronyx | and i'm guessing they aren't compatible? |
| 05:56.49 | roxville | and... the dev runs on a 64bit machine... he tried a couple of times...i mean he ran some tests... |
| 05:57.00 | roxville | and the diff was not noticeable |
| 05:57.18 | Tronyx | so I could put the i386 version on my amd 64 machine? |
| 05:57.23 | LinuxNIT | Tronyx: elive runs on 64 bit it just does not take advantage of the 64 over the 32 bits |
| 05:57.31 | Tronyx | ohhhh luscious! |
| 05:58.16 | roxville | lol |
| 05:58.26 | Tronyx | so, a 64 bit can run 32 bit but doesnt take advantage of the 64, though a 32 bit will not runa 64 bit, correct? |
| 05:58.45 | roxville | sounds correct |
| 05:58.47 | LinuxNIT | afaik |
| 05:59.05 | GPLGeek | I actually created a elive livecd |
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| 05:59.09 | GPLGeek | live dvd rather |
| 05:59.13 | Tronyx | I cannot lie though, what's the word on world of warcraft and elive >.< |
| 05:59.20 | GPLGeek | it was etch64 with a 32bit chroot |
| 05:59.47 | GPLGeek | etch amd64 IS better if you have a 64bit system but you need a 32bit chroot to run things like firefox with flash |
| 05:59.56 | GPLGeek | because adobe doesnt support 64bit yet |
| 06:00.10 | GPLGeek | so the answer is, if your a nub use i386 and be happy |
| 06:00.23 | GPLGeek | if your a pro, or need a xen server or something, and you want to deal with all that stuff |
| 06:00.30 | GPLGeek | then go ahead and use 64bit |
| 06:00.53 | GPLGeek | Tronyx, many people play warcraft in wine |
| 06:01.03 | GPLGeek | Tronyx, also some use cedega |
| 06:01.23 | GPLGeek | it works though |
| 06:01.25 | Tronyx | With Ubuntu I had a lot of problem with ATI drivers, is it any different with Elive or is it just linux support for ATI in general |
| 06:01.56 | GPLGeek | ati drivers are getting better, right now they are pretty damn good |
| 06:02.01 | GPLGeek | good for gaming at least |
| 06:02.11 | GPLGeek | dont expect tv tuner or crossfire |
| 06:02.38 | GPLGeek | We have fglrx support |
| 06:02.52 | GPLGeek | just gotta select it when you boot up and then install and then it should be running ok |
| 06:02.55 | Tronyx | I have a 250 gig and an 80 gig in my amd machine, to better assess audio/video issues would you reccomend putting Elive on the 80 gig drive currently my ubuntu drive? |
| 06:03.47 | GPLGeek | whatever makes sense |
| 06:03.55 | Tronyx | so tempted... |
| 06:04.33 | GPLGeek | I'd put /home and /usr on the 250 and the rest on the 80 |
| 06:04.47 | Tronyx | oh i'm not sure if i'm that advanced with linux yet |
| 06:05.09 | GPLGeek | just press a bunch of buttons, see what they do... you will be a pro in no time =p |
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| 06:05.44 | Tronyx | i did that, blew up zenwalk 4 times, ubuntu 3, blag i don't know how many, knoppix...yea, i am still trying to figure out what does what |
| 06:05.58 | Tronyx | my biggest enjoyment is that i've pushed a lot on elive and it still boots =D |
| 06:06.12 | Tronyx | though you are correct, I have learned a lot |
| 06:06.29 | PrinceAMD | roxville, i got fox over globe all the time, but globe not spinning |
| 06:06.35 | PrinceAMD | one more thing to fix i guess |
| 06:09.20 | roxville | crap, i gotta get some sleep... |
| 06:09.29 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 06:09.47 | PrinceAMD | i'll be done in the next 1hrs |
| 06:12.14 | Tronyx | with rxvt is there any way to copy and paste? i need to complete a script for class and paste it into a word document |
| 06:12.29 | Tronyx | or could i just vi script.text and open it with open office? |
| 06:12.48 | LinuxNIT | highlight the text then use middle click to paste |
| 06:13.18 | Tronyx | and copy as well? |
| 06:13.41 | LinuxNIT | the copy is done when you highlight it |
| 06:13.42 | Tronyx | ah i see how it works, thanks LinuxNIT |
| 06:13.45 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 06:13.48 | LinuxNIT | no problem |
| 06:14.29 | GPLGeek | elivedev.org is nearing a finished-state as far as the design and colors go |
| 06:14.42 | roxville | not really... |
| 06:14.49 | roxville | but... for tonight... yes |
| 06:15.17 | roxville | good night guys :) |
| 06:15.23 | PrinceAMD | good night |
| 06:15.28 | LinuxNIT | good night roxville |
| 06:17.38 | Tronyx | night |
| 06:17.48 | LinuxNIT | night |
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| 06:19.22 | Tronyx | oh i'm not sleeping just yet, far too much homework to do =[ |
| 06:24.18 | Tronyx | don't worry, I can't sleep either, I need to finish some homework, but...tonight I just cant stay focused |
| 06:24.56 | GPLGeek | I should go to bed lol |
| 06:25.04 | GPLGeek | tomorrow is going to suck |
| 06:25.09 | Tronyx | big plans eh? |
| 06:25.54 | GPLGeek | work |
| 06:26.00 | GPLGeek | well today was my day off and i was going to do a bunch of stuff |
| 06:26.13 | GPLGeek | so i have to do it tomorrow after work because instead I made a website for the elive community lol |
| 06:26.17 | GPLGeek | and did some other stuff |
| 06:26.26 | Tronyx | haha |
| 06:26.28 | GPLGeek | I guess it was fun and worth it though |
| 06:26.34 | GPLGeek | You guys deserve web content |
| 06:26.36 | Tronyx | i consider it time well spend ;) |
| 06:26.38 | Tronyx | *spent |
| 06:27.20 | GPLGeek | i kinda wish we had a wider-richer user base |
| 06:27.27 | GPLGeek | so i could get a few donations to upgrade the server |
| 06:27.31 | GPLGeek | but I know that will never happen |
| 06:27.37 | GPLGeek | thana rarely ever gets a donation |
| 06:27.48 | Tronyx | i had intended on getting all this stuff for my UNIX class done tonight so I could sit around all day tomorrow but I am doing everyting other than classwork tonight |
| 06:27.57 | Tronyx | what do you mean by wider-richer user base? |
| 06:28.10 | Tronyx | if I donate to elive does it go to the server as well? |
| 06:28.18 | GPLGeek | more people, ones with money to spare =p |
| 06:28.29 | GPLGeek | my server i guess is my donation to elvie |
| 06:28.31 | GPLGeek | er elive |
| 06:28.51 | GPLGeek | I dont have a paypal link or anything I tell them to donate to thanatermesis the project leader |
| 06:29.01 | GPLGeek | my server does cost quite a bit though. |
| 06:29.07 | Tronyx | ah i see |
| 06:29.23 | GPLGeek | the donations that go to thana keep him working, providing the things he needs like hosting and stuff. |
| 06:29.48 | Tronyx | do we know approximately how many elive users there are? |
| 06:30.40 | GPLGeek | surprisingly not many of them go to irc but there are many |
| 06:30.56 | GPLGeek | over 1000 people use elive as their primary operating system |
| 06:31.21 | Tronyx | I enjoy the availability of IRC, so far the people here are great, the blag people...they scared the hell out of me |
| 06:31.24 | GPLGeek | hundreds of countless others use it for school, repairing computers, offline |
| 06:31.25 | GPLGeek | etc |
| 06:34.35 | Tronyx | when did you say thanatermesis would be back for donations? feb? |
| 06:35.11 | GPLGeek | february |
| 06:35.15 | Tronyx | cool |
| 06:35.35 | GPLGeek | you can paypal him some money if you like |
| 06:36.08 | GPLGeek | thanatermesis@gmail.com |
| 06:37.05 | Tronyx | I definately will, the more time i spend working with Linux the more I believe in open source. I don't have much to contribute as far as information goes, but I would like to help with what I can |
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| 06:37.37 | PrinceAMD | bad code |
| 06:37.39 | PrinceAMD | killed e17 |
| 06:39.17 | LinuxNIT | :o |
| 06:40.52 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, fuck me |
| 06:40.55 | PrinceAMD | it's fixed |
| 06:40.57 | PrinceAMD | it works |
| 06:41.05 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:41.13 | Tronyx | now THAT is a celebration |
| 06:43.17 | PrinceAMD | Tronyx, oh it is |
| 06:43.36 | PrinceAMD | have to adjust globe size |
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| 06:53.38 | LinuxNIT | <PrinceAMD> LinuxNIT, fuck me |
| 06:53.39 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 06:53.43 | LinuxNIT | that dosent sound good |
| 06:53.50 | Tronyx | sounds hawt |
| 06:53.51 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 06:54.10 | PrinceAMD | damn we need girls in this channel |
| 06:54.14 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:54.16 | PrinceAMD | so when i get excited |
| 06:54.22 | Tronyx | like that's gonna happen... |
| 06:54.43 | PrinceAMD | hey dont say that |
| 06:54.46 | PrinceAMD | some day |
| 06:54.52 | PrinceAMD | a nice sexy girl will come in here |
| 06:55.09 | Tronyx | one day this chat will rule the open source world, and women, being as drawn to GNU/GPL will flock to us |
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| 06:55.22 | PrinceAMD | :D |
| 06:55.26 | PrinceAMD | that's more like it |
| 06:55.30 | Tronyx | haha |
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| 07:13.00 | GPLGeek | lol |
| 07:13.09 | GPLGeek | i was doing a side by side review before bed |
| 07:13.14 | GPLGeek | windows vs linux |
| 07:13.20 | GPLGeek | and I found a issue that is funny |
| 07:13.31 | PrinceAMD | http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/index.php?dir=Animated%20icons/&file=globe.edj grab that GPLGeek |
| 07:13.32 | GPLGeek | in linux you can open like folders of stuff at a time |
| 07:13.36 | GPLGeek | 23 files or whatever |
| 07:13.42 | GPLGeek | but when you do it in windows |
| 07:13.46 | GPLGeek | explorer freaks out |
| 07:13.49 | GPLGeek | and the system crashes |
| 07:14.05 | GPLGeek | i got that globe |
| 07:14.30 | PrinceAMD | og |
| 07:14.38 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, i just created that |
| 07:15.02 | PrinceAMD | it's not the one on www.get-e.org , this one is more ADVANCE! |
| 07:15.27 | GPLGeek | i meant that i used wget to get it |
| 07:15.34 | GPLGeek | not that i had it already |
| 07:16.02 | GPLGeek | i need to go to bed ill test the globe tomorrow |
| 07:16.40 | PrinceAMD | BNOOOOOOO |
| 07:16.46 | PrinceAMD | test now pleas |
| 07:16.53 | PrinceAMD | ah well u'r tired i guess |
| 07:17.06 | PrinceAMD | good job on the site all u works/developers |
| 07:17.20 | GPLGeek | I got some messages from people asking me to keep elivedev.org going and asked what I needed |
| 07:17.30 | GPLGeek | Mainly content |
| 07:17.54 | GPLGeek | but somone brought up my costs and yes it cost a lot and I have to upgrade the server if more people are going to be on it. |
| 07:18.41 | GPLGeek | as per request I did put up a "donate" button but I'm making sure everone knows it's just for elivedev to cover bandwidth and wil not be used in any other way |
| 07:19.13 | PrinceAMD | good :) |
| 07:19.17 | GPLGeek | I dont have a good job yet and cant even afford this crap. |
| 07:19.37 | GPLGeek | Tmorrow I go back to the EDD and see if I can get me a better job. |
| 07:22.03 | GPLGeek | the other option is to drop the "mirror" status and get rid of rsync |
| 07:22.13 | GPLGeek | which wouldnt be wise because often times my server is the ONLY one that works |
| 07:23.20 | PrinceAMD | hm... |
| 07:23.29 | PrinceAMD | u'r in a rough spot |
| 07:23.39 | PrinceAMD | i hope u get through though |
| 07:23.53 | GPLGeek | http://elivedev.org/?q=rss.xml a RSS feed too |
| 07:23.58 | GPLGeek | for the ones that asked |
| 07:24.15 | GPLGeek | princeAMD another option is for me to move to kansas.... I can get a job there. |
| 07:24.21 | LinuxNIT | wait |
| 07:24.21 | GPLGeek | and host the server in my own home |
| 07:24.26 | LinuxNIT | oops |
| 07:24.41 | LinuxNIT | good might all |
| 07:24.49 | GPLGeek | good might LinuxNIT |
| 07:25.01 | GPLGeek | I can see that you are tired. |
| 07:25.04 | GPLGeek | I am too |
| 07:25.06 | PrinceAMD | good night LinuxNIT |
| 07:25.17 | PrinceAMD | Good night GPLGeek |
| 07:25.21 | PrinceAMD | i'm going too |
| 07:25.55 | GPLGeek | good night * |
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| 08:59.36 | Tronyx | why the hell did i take an accelerated UNIX class |
| 08:59.50 | Tronyx | it's 4 in the morning and I'm still doing homework, AHHHHHH |
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| 10:14.18 | Tronyx | i need sleep... |
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| 10:15.09 | Elora | Hello. Is there a substitute for edevelop.org while it is down? And why is the edevelop/elive machine down? |
| 10:16.08 | Tronyx | hi, I'm not too sure about the edevelop.org substitution, from what I hear expect it to be back online early Feb |
| 10:16.50 | Tronyx | may I ask what it is you are looking for as for as a substitution goes? |
| 10:25.05 | Tronyx | hello wizard |
| 10:26.08 | wizard123 | hi Tronyx :] |
| 10:26.11 | wizard123 | wassup? |
| 10:26.54 | wizard123 | hmm.. i'm looking for band called Lux Occulta |
| 10:26.56 | Tronyx | eh not a whole lot, trouble sleeping per usual, just finished an 8 hour homework spree for my UNIX class and now I'm not sure what to do with myself |
| 10:27.03 | wizard123 | does anybody have it :P ? |
| 10:27.14 | Tronyx | im not too familiar with them |
| 10:27.40 | Tronyx | what kind of music? |
| 10:27.56 | wizard123 | hmm.. black or death metal |
| 10:29.07 | Tronyx | o.O i like death metal |
| 10:29.17 | Elora | Tronyx: I should have been more explicit. Since I can't get eLive to install on my work box -blame the DVD-Drive-, I wanted to use the edevelop repo to install e17 in Debian |
| 10:29.46 | Tronyx | you are using a dvd install? |
| 10:31.14 | Elora | Nope, the .6 release. It stalls after starting the installation. Debian can be installed thanks to netinst |
| 10:31.35 | Tronyx | ahhhh |
| 10:31.51 | Tronyx | and just so i understand this, you are pretty much just looking to download e17? |
| 10:31.56 | Tronyx | *and put that on your debian |
| 10:32.50 | Elora | Yep, but building from sources is not something I want to do at work |
| 10:33.48 | Tronyx | haha, wish I could be of more assistance but alas I am not =/ |
| 10:35.12 | Elora | No problem. Any idea about which is the problem with the edevelop machine? Another DNS expiration? |
| 10:35.51 | Tronyx | on that I have no idea, I was told the only guy that could correct it was on vacation and wouldn't be back until feb |
| 10:36.13 | Elora | About Lux Occulta, the easy, probably already tried place to look at: http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/lux_occulta |
| 10:36.33 | Elora | Tronyx: XD Ouch |
| 10:37.08 | Tronyx | haha indeed, indeed |
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| 10:39.17 | Tronyx | ahh what the hell am I supposed to do at 5:40 in the morning |
| 10:39.26 | Elora | Now that I'm here... I haven't kept track on the latest development decissions. Are the shelves already approved? Are they still criticized? |
| 10:39.42 | Elora | 5:40? Double-Ouch |
| 10:40.09 | Tronyx | yea, 5:40 |
| 10:40.28 | Tronyx | 8 hours of homework on an accelerated UNIX class and now I can't shut off my brain |
| 10:40.37 | Elora | No wonder you can't be of much help XDDD |
| 10:40.45 | Tronyx | hahaha! |
| 10:41.23 | Elora | What about? In Spain there are no such things as UNIX classes... -University, School?- |
| 10:41.57 | Tronyx | yep, University |
| 10:42.14 | Tronyx | i'm studying Network Security at the University |
| 10:43.22 | Tronyx | are you a student? |
| 10:43.31 | wizard123 | arr |
| 10:43.35 | wizard123 | i can't learn :P |
| 10:43.36 | Elora | In Computer Science we have to learn UNIX by ourselves... |
| 10:43.48 | Tronyx | double-ouch to you Elora =p |
| 10:43.53 | wizard123 | i'm studying computer science too |
| 10:43.55 | Tronyx | haha what do you study wizard? |
| 10:43.58 | Tronyx | ah very cool |
| 10:44.31 | Elora | Tronyx, it was not that bad; I had a great guru-friend |
| 10:44.32 | wizard123 | and i don't need to learn unix |
| 10:44.44 | Elora | Although he used, and still uses, KDE |
| 10:44.51 | Tronyx | I hate KDE |
| 10:44.52 | wizard123 | ususally i'm guru-friend :P |
| 10:44.58 | wizard123 | and i use kde :P |
| 10:44.59 | Tronyx | not as much as I hate XFCE |
| 10:45.39 | Tronyx | don't worry wizard, it's not you i dislike, just your KDE =p |
| 10:45.49 | Elora | wizard123: No Linux/UNIX/Solaris courses? |
| 10:45.50 | wizard123 | i understand |
| 10:46.09 | wizard123 | thera are, but i have few years of unix experience |
| 10:46.23 | wizard123 | there* |
| 10:46.58 | wizard123 | both as desktop and as server |
| 10:47.52 | wizard123 | but i'm still learning.. |
| 10:47.59 | Elora | I'm trying to take the leap, but I always try to do so a week before exams... Is there a connection, maybe? |
| 10:48.13 | Elora | So, for now, I'll keep in the desktop side |
| 10:48.14 | Elora | =( |
| 10:48.48 | wizard123 | i use linux on my notebook, freebsd on other machines |
| 10:50.06 | Elora | freebsd is too pro for me... |
| 10:50.28 | Elora | (Although I'm installing Solaris right now XD ) |
| 10:50.31 | wizard123 | Elora: tell me you like death metal.. |
| 10:50.42 | wizard123 | (off topic) |
| 10:51.18 | Elora | Not that much, actually |
| 10:51.22 | wizard123 | about 20% of my unix guru friends have long hairs and love metal :| |
| 10:51.31 | Elora | I'm much more into Gothic/Folk metal |
| 10:51.41 | wizard123 | bah.. i knew it |
| 10:51.48 | wizard123 | like allways.. |
| 10:52.01 | Elora | Mines are more varied -electronica, metal, MacOS...- |
| 10:52.34 | Elora | Falkenbach, Leave's Eyes, Theatre of Tragedy -Aegis and Velvet Darkness- |
| 10:53.32 | Elora | But I listen to almot any style possible: Fiona Apple, David Bowie, David Byrne, Xiu Xiu, Modest Mouse, Death in Vegas... |
| 10:53.53 | Elora | Blid Guardian, hehe, but that's for granted |
| 10:54.12 | wizard123 | Blind Guardian, Rhapsody, Therion :] |
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| 10:56.24 | wizard123 | lol, somebody shown up on im and asked 'hi! can we chat?'.. and kopete crashed :D |
| 10:56.29 | wizard123 | good, old kopete :D |
| 10:56.49 | Elora | ... |
| 10:57.05 | Elora | Obviously Kopete thought you couldn't and took action |
| 10:57.14 | wizard123 | yeah :D |
| 10:57.18 | Elora | That's called ease of use hur |
| 10:58.03 | wizard123 | now after restart it doesn't allow me to answer :D |
| 10:58.06 | wizard123 | i love that app |
| 10:58.09 | wizard123 | Tronyx: ping |
| 11:01.10 | Elora | Actually, I never used |
| 11:01.47 | Elora | Exposition to Gaim at young age destroyed my ability to chose |
| 11:06.35 | wizard123 | gaim sux a little |
| 11:07.38 | Elora | ¬¬ |
| 11:12.36 | Elora | If my Gaim crashes will be because it is offended... |
| 11:13.31 | wizard123 | i use kopete with two protocols: famous jabber and haten gadu-gadu :| |
| 11:13.47 | wizard123 | unfortunately most of my buddys use gadu :| |
| 11:14.17 | wizard123 | closed protocol and closed client, so kopete does not handle it very good |
| 11:15.40 | Elora | I never knew what Gadu-Gadu is... but didn't care that much, actually. Jabber + IRC + MSN are more than I can handle already |
| 11:16.13 | wizard123 | too much of that shit.. irc could be enough.. |
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| 12:19.37 | Elive_user60 | re all |
| 12:20.29 | Elive_user60 | it would be nice to implement into the installer to do it with an encrypted home directory or even a drive! |
| 12:20.42 | Elive_user60 | When might Thana be around again? |
| 12:21.21 | Tronyx | early feb |
| 12:21.29 | Tronyx | and on that note i need to back to sleep ^^ |
| 12:21.43 | Elive_user60 | thanx Tronyx :) |
| 12:22.03 | Tronyx | no problem :) |
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| 12:53.14 | SuperpeZ | wizard123, are you here? |
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| 12:57.01 | Detox | hello alllll |
| 12:57.13 | SuperpeZ | hello Detox |
| 12:57.42 | Detox | hey ,, do you know how to capture the screen to put in a doc? |
| 12:57.54 | SuperpeZ | yes |
| 12:58.02 | Detox | am writing a how-to ,, and would like to show the screen in it |
| 12:58.10 | SuperpeZ | go to elivepanel |
| 12:58.34 | Detox | k |
| 12:58.36 | SuperpeZ | looks and feel configurations |
| 12:58.50 | SuperpeZ | 17 |
| 12:59.03 | SuperpeZ | background mangers |
| 12:59.22 | Detox | k |
| 12:59.22 | SuperpeZ | and |
| 12:59.36 | SuperpeZ | capture your ... |
| 12:59.50 | SuperpeZ | the file is saved on /tmp |
| 13:00.18 | Detox | ok ... now all I need is a pic of the windoww that is open |
| 13:00.34 | Detox | like an install manual |
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| 13:00.46 | SuperpeZ | and the file is capture.png |
| 13:01.09 | Detox | if i do more than one will it be capture1.png? |
| 13:02.12 | SuperpeZ | try this |
| 13:02.48 | SuperpeZ | I think that you can do many captures |
| 13:02.54 | Detox | k |
| 13:02.57 | SuperpeZ | see you later |
| 13:03.00 | SuperpeZ | :) |
| 13:03.01 | Detox | thanks |
| 13:03.05 | SuperpeZ | :) |
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| 13:40.18 | Detox_at_Work | morning all |
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| 14:45.43 | Detox_at_Work | afternoon all |
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| 15:02.35 | PrinceAMD | animated Xchat icon complete ! |
| 15:02.56 | roxville | wow! |
| 15:03.16 | roxville | which did ya anumate? |
| 15:03.20 | roxville | animate |
| 15:04.15 | roxville | exquisite icons have a gimp icon with a camera on it... i was thinking an occasional flash... |
| 15:04.46 | Detox_at_Work | you da guy roxville!! |
| 15:05.01 | roxville | lol |
| 15:05.17 | roxville | no, PrinceAMD is! |
| 15:05.24 | roxville | he makes things happen |
| 15:07.23 | roxville | PrinceAMD, i modded the terminal icon, put the default elive icon in instead |
| 15:08.20 | Detox_at_Work | back later folks |
| 15:09.37 | PrinceAMD | roxville, cool |
| 15:09.39 | PrinceAMD | can i have it |
| 15:09.46 | roxville | sure |
| 15:10.01 | PrinceAMD | http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/index.php?dir=Animated%20icons/&file=xchat.edj animated xchat |
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| 15:10.09 | roxville | i made it a 7am... it's not perfect... this house is HELL in the mornings... |
| 15:10.38 | PrinceAMD | lol |
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| 15:10.50 | PrinceAMD | u like the globe we did |
| 15:11.04 | PrinceAMD | it looks REALLY HOT on my Ibar |
| 15:11.51 | PrinceAMD | i want to know if there is a Thunnar Hammer that's spins |
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| 15:12.09 | roxville | wow, not bad!! |
| 15:12.17 | THEoracle | sup roxville |
| 15:12.21 | THEoracle | what's goin on? |
| 15:12.23 | roxville | THEoracle, hiya dude :) |
| 15:12.47 | roxville | the elive site is down... |
| 15:12.51 | PrinceAMD | xchat animeated icon looks good next to the firefox one |
| 15:13.01 | roxville | yeah :) |
| 15:13.48 | PrinceAMD | roxville, send your icon via hotmail please |
| 15:14.33 | roxville | just did |
| 15:14.38 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 15:14.59 | roxville | how's bamy this morning? ya got snow? |
| 15:15.01 | PrinceAMD | i want to add another feature to the animated icon, mouse_event |
| 15:15.15 | roxville | yeah, that'd be cool |
| 15:16.25 | roxville | gawd, this could get messy after a while... |
| 15:16.25 | PrinceAMD | roxville, NICE!!! |
| 15:16.31 | PrinceAMD | it looks good |
| 15:16.37 | roxville | thx...it's ok :) |
| 15:16.51 | PrinceAMD | my terminal monitor :D |
| 15:17.08 | roxville | the cursor got crooked when i changed the perspective... |
| 15:17.20 | roxville | hehe |
| 15:17.34 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 15:18.28 | PrinceAMD | i can make a really nice aMSN animated icon |
| 15:18.47 | roxville | hehe, i bet you can :D |
| 15:19.39 | roxville | i love the exquisite icons... so i'll see which would be best sutied for animation |
| 15:19.48 | PrinceAMD | i dont know much graphic, so once someone can supply me with the images |
| 15:19.53 | PrinceAMD | i'll do the code work |
| 15:20.07 | roxville | get the exquisite icon set |
| 15:20.14 | roxville | thana will give you a hug |
| 15:20.19 | PrinceAMD | can i see this "exquisite icons" you are talking about |
| 15:20.35 | roxville | gawd, "elive Las Vegas edition"... |
| 15:20.46 | PrinceAMD | HUH? |
| 15:20.51 | roxville | you can download them from the elive repo |
| 15:21.00 | PrinceAMD | oh... |
| 15:21.17 | roxville | lol, i was just thinking, with all these icons animated...it'll look like las vegas... |
| 15:21.30 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 15:21.36 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 15:21.38 | PrinceAMD | flashy |
| 15:22.16 | roxville | to say the least... |
| 15:22.52 | roxville | i just burned mandriva with the metisse WM... gonna try it in a bit... |
| 15:23.11 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 15:23.23 | *** join/#elive fachex (n=Elive_us@user-387c3l6.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 15:23.30 | fachex | hey guys! |
| 15:23.34 | PrinceAMD | roxville, WOW |
| 15:23.35 | fachex | hi all |
| 15:23.43 | fachex | hey rox! |
| 15:23.45 | PrinceAMD | exquisite icons NICEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 15:23.49 | roxville | hi fachex how are you? |
| 15:23.56 | fachex | princeAmD |
| 15:23.57 | PrinceAMD | roxville, hey |
| 15:24.01 | PrinceAMD | fachex, hey |
| 15:24.03 | fachex | doing good |
| 15:24.11 | fachex | I want to share something weird |
| 15:24.18 | fachex | I bragged about elive so much |
| 15:24.21 | roxville | PrinceAMD, linuxnit modded them so you can use most of them as default in e17 dev |
| 15:24.27 | PrinceAMD | roxville, can u make gnome-globe.png sping like |
| 15:24.28 | fachex | I convinced a friend to install it in her system |
| 15:24.45 | PrinceAMD | roxville, where can i get the mod? |
| 15:25.04 | roxville | PrinceAMD, on his elivedev page...i think |
| 15:25.15 | roxville | fachex, keep talking |
| 15:25.27 | THEoracle | no i don't have any snow |
| 15:25.28 | PrinceAMD | it's not there |
| 15:25.29 | fachex | I told her how good is linux and "secure", etc.....to make the long story short, she had elive for 2 days and her computer has been hacked |
| 15:25.33 | fachex | big time |
| 15:25.39 | THEoracle | hell i can't remember the last time we had snow here |
| 15:25.49 | fachex | the hacker dude destroy the system |
| 15:26.16 | PrinceAMD | roxville, do u have the mod version? |
| 15:26.18 | fachex | now she is paranoid |
| 15:26.49 | roxville | fachex, are you KIDDING?!?! |
| 15:27.03 | roxville | it was installed? |
| 15:27.08 | fachex | I am not!! |
| 15:27.13 | fachex | I am not kidding you |
| 15:27.27 | fachex | they hacked everything, even her hotmail acccount |
| 15:27.43 | roxville | wonder how they got in |
| 15:27.54 | fachex | she communicated with the hotmail people and told her that yes indeed she got hacked by a very good hacker |
| 15:28.03 | fachex | they cannot even traced him/her |
| 15:28.11 | roxville | shit... |
| 15:28.11 | fachex | I don't know |
| 15:28.24 | Gwildor | well, i wouldnt say hotmail being hacked is a OS security issue.. |
| 15:28.31 | Gwildor | hotmail can be hacked blindfolded |
| 15:28.37 | roxville | yep |
| 15:28.46 | fachex | she started telling me that she got weired messg puped up in her pc and she thought it was me |
| 15:28.48 | THEoracle | yep |
| 15:28.52 | roxville | but...if it affected her installed elive... |
| 15:29.00 | fachex | right.. |
| 15:29.03 | Gwildor | use TOR, and you arent tracable. |
| 15:29.09 | fachex | well, I've got to admit my foult |
| 15:29.12 | Gwildor | how was the isntall affected? |
| 15:29.19 | fachex | I left the root password as "root" |
| 15:29.26 | Gwildor | AWWWWWW |
| 15:29.27 | THEoracle | lol |
| 15:29.32 | fachex | :( |
| 15:29.49 | fachex | I thought, who in the world would care for a "no-body"? |
| 15:30.04 | fachex | she is jast an average girl.. |
| 15:30.23 | fachex | but this dude keeps stocking her |
| 15:30.37 | fachex | he even replaied emails she sent to other people |
| 15:31.01 | fachex | but, not a good reputation already for linux |
| 15:31.03 | roxville | wow, that's horrible |
| 15:31.07 | Gwildor | skript kiddie |
| 15:31.07 | fachex | yeap |
| 15:31.36 | roxville | so reinstall and make the password something better... |
| 15:31.39 | fachex | they guy created an account called "sad4ever", a user account |
| 15:31.48 | fachex | that's what we did.. |
| 15:31.53 | Gwildor | fachex, send her an "important email" see if he reply's to you |
| 15:32.09 | roxville | yeah |
| 15:32.10 | Gwildor | that way, you can disect the header, and get his IP |
| 15:32.21 | fachex | that's a good idea |
| 15:32.23 | roxville | yeah |
| 15:32.36 | Gwildor | :D |
| 15:32.41 | fachex | she thinks acutally is the internet provider people |
| 15:33.04 | fachex | brighthouse |
| 15:33.06 | Gwildor | lol, my root pass is my user pass :P |
| 15:33.08 | fachex | but I don't know |
| 15:34.03 | fachex | I thought "what's the linux pouplation?" only like 3% to 5% of the computer world? |
| 15:34.14 | fachex | what are the chances your linux machine get hacked? |
| 15:34.20 | fachex | but she did!! |
| 15:34.41 | fachex | but this is the thing too, what's the population of hacker using linux? like 99%? |
| 15:34.49 | roxville | PrinceAMD, i'm sending you the icons now |
| 15:35.19 | fachex | I just wanted to share that, I need to keep working...long live to elive! |
| 15:35.33 | roxville | fachex, thanks |
| 15:35.41 | PrinceAMD | http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/0001-ds.png roxville |
| 15:35.45 | PrinceAMD | ok send :) |
| 15:35.47 | roxville | they are crackers, not hackers |
| 15:35.52 | fachex | needles to say that I already changed my password (hehe) |
| 15:35.59 | fachex | heheh |
| 15:36.02 | roxville | hehe |
| 15:36.34 | roxville | really... the papaers have destroyed the word "hacker" |
| 15:37.17 | Gwildor | well, it also has so many definitions |
| 15:37.21 | fachex | have a great day guys, don't be hacking around! I wonder if one of you guys hacked my friend's computer... |
| 15:37.22 | fachex | hmmm |
| 15:37.26 | fachex | just kidding.. |
| 15:37.39 | Gwildor | people who use typewriters == 'hackers' |
| 15:38.11 | fachex | God bless |
| 15:38.15 | Gwildor | fachex, she have wifi or anything? |
| 15:38.22 | Gwildor | guess it does not matter :P |
| 15:38.41 | *** join/#elive PrinceAMD (n=Elive_us@190.80.61.140) |
| 15:38.57 | roxville | PrinceAMD, lol @ red globe |
| 15:39.23 | PrinceAMD | mars dude |
| 15:39.31 | Gwildor | haha |
| 15:39.44 | roxville | hehe |
| 15:39.55 | *** join/#elive trog (n=trog@unaffiliated/trog) |
| 15:40.25 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 15:41.47 | PrinceAMD | roxville, did u send icon? |
| 15:42.04 | roxville | yep |
| 15:42.13 | roxville | icons |
| 15:42.16 | PrinceAMD | not in my box yet |
| 15:42.18 | PrinceAMD | :( |
| 15:42.18 | roxville | the whole set |
| 15:42.29 | roxville | it's pretty big |
| 15:42.41 | PrinceAMD | hm 20mb? |
| 15:42.56 | roxville | no... i don't think so... |
| 15:42.56 | Gwildor | OH NOEZ SNOW! |
| 15:42.58 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 15:43.24 | roxville | whoa, it snows in detroit! world news! |
| 15:43.58 | Gwildor | freals, today is the first time weve had snow on the ground |
| 15:44.20 | roxville | ok, that IS world news, then :) |
| 15:45.07 | roxville | PrinceAMD, 4.9MB |
| 15:45.11 | Gwildor | texas has gotten more snow than us :P |
| 15:45.18 | PrinceAMD | oh... |
| 15:45.37 | roxville | texas is also slightly bigger than michigan... |
| 15:45.54 | roxville | about three times the size? |
| 15:46.49 | Gwildor | probably more.. |
| 15:46.55 | Gwildor | but, its texas... |
| 15:47.01 | Gwildor | http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2007/0126/toshiba_01.jpg |
| 15:47.09 | Gwildor | thats what you guys can get me for my birthday :D |
| 15:47.14 | roxville | hehe |
| 15:48.26 | Gwildor | http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3504708 |
| 15:48.32 | Gwildor | if it was in stock, i get one this weekend |
| 15:48.34 | Gwildor | :( |
| 15:50.09 | *** part/#elive Gwildor (n=Elive_us@h-66-134-148-176.sfldmidn.covad.net) |
| 15:50.24 | *** join/#elive Gwildor (n=Elive_us@h-66-134-148-176.sfldmidn.covad.net) |
| 15:50.25 | Gwildor | oops |
| 15:51.35 | Gwildor | http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5192512 |
| 15:51.36 | Gwildor | hmmmm |
| 15:53.42 | *** join/#elive i3d (n=i3dmaste@c-24-8-52-124.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 15:54.38 | *** join/#elive egrub (i=1000@48-3-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 15:55.50 | *** join/#elive cga (n=cga@213-140-6-101.ip.fastwebnet.it) |
| 15:57.49 | wizard123 | hi ^^ |
| 15:57.57 | PrinceAMD | h |
| 15:57.58 | PrinceAMD | i |
| 15:58.24 | PrinceAMD | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:58.27 | PrinceAMD | ihi |
| 15:58.29 | PrinceAMD | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.48 | *** join/#elive Elive_user99 (n=Elive_us@200.68.75.209) |
| 16:00.22 | wizard123 | PrinceAMD: drunk? |
| 16:00.41 | PrinceAMD | wizard123, yea i had some water just now |
| 16:00.46 | PrinceAMD | maybe it's druged |
| 16:01.01 | wizard123 | hmm.. i'm moving to your city tommorw ^^ |
| 16:01.06 | PrinceAMD | wizard123, are u using e17? |
| 16:01.10 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 16:01.19 | wizard123 | not now |
| 16:01.26 | wizard123 | i'm under kde |
| 16:01.28 | PrinceAMD | do u use the one in tests? |
| 16:01.38 | wizard123 | e17? no |
| 16:01.47 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 16:01.54 | wizard123 | i switched repos to unstable |
| 16:02.05 | wizard123 | unstable is pretty stable for me |
| 16:02.09 | PrinceAMD | roxville, can host that file u tried sending me via email |
| 16:02.27 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 16:02.29 | *** join/#elive Elive_user54 (n=Elive_us@77.50.31.133) |
| 16:03.05 | roxville | tried? it never came? |
| 16:03.15 | PrinceAMD | nope |
| 16:03.22 | roxville | wtf? |
| 16:03.51 | wizard123 | hi roxville |
| 16:03.53 | PrinceAMD | msn me decoding it and recompiling it and scanning it at the same time with a 1mhz cpu |
| 16:04.27 | wizard123 | 1mhz? zx specrum had 2MHz :P |
| 16:05.19 | roxville | trying again... from my gmail |
| 16:05.33 | *** join/#elive dats (n=dats@33.Red-213-98-129.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:05.35 | PrinceAMD | u can send metalhead.deon@gmail.com |
| 16:05.35 | *** join/#elive ElonGlasb (n=Elive_us@cp495315-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl) |
| 16:06.11 | PrinceAMD | roxville, send to that email |
| 16:06.24 | roxville | ok |
| 16:12.07 | roxville | PrinceAMD, it's on it's way |
| 16:12.17 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 16:12.19 | roxville | just left my box |
| 16:12.30 | PrinceAMD | roxville, i got it |
| 16:13.07 | PrinceAMD | roxville, that took awhile :D |
| 16:13.29 | PrinceAMD | msn getting more stupid day by day |
| 16:13.42 | PrinceAMD | maybe a family curse |
| 16:21.49 | roxville | hehe, probably :) |
| 16:22.17 | PrinceAMD | now i got the mail in my msn |
| 16:22.44 | roxville | LOL |
| 16:22.46 | PrinceAMD | roxville, are u working on the site now or creating something? |
| 16:22.51 | roxville | Gwildor, http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=elivedev9sy6.png |
| 16:23.05 | roxville | yeah, i'm changing the color scheme slightly |
| 16:23.16 | roxville | just the header and the css file |
| 16:23.22 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 16:23.37 | roxville | but i can't reach the css, so i have to wait until gplgeek shows up again |
| 16:24.19 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 16:24.29 | roxville | stupid drupal does not have a separate theme for admins...so when the theme got dark, you couldn't read shit in the configs |
| 16:25.10 | PrinceAMD | damn |
| 16:25.13 | PrinceAMD | that sucks |
| 16:25.20 | roxville | pr0t0cod7, this one ain't bad, theough http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=elivedev9sy6.png |
| 16:25.30 | roxville | hehe, yeah ...it sucks |
| 16:26.07 | roxville | pr0t0cod7, sorry |
| 16:26.07 | roxville | i meant PrinceAMD |
| 16:26.33 | PrinceAMD | roxville, i like the corrent one that is up on the site |
| 16:26.41 | roxville | i know |
| 16:26.45 | roxville | me too |
| 16:26.55 | PrinceAMD | good |
| 16:27.00 | PrinceAMD | use that then :D |
| 16:27.05 | roxville | but with the new, brighter theme, it needs to be like this |
| 16:28.20 | PrinceAMD | untill a better one comes along |
| 16:28.21 | *** join/#elive Elive_user83 (n=Elive_us@user-69-1-38-12.knology.net) |
| 16:28.21 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 16:28.22 | roxville | hello Elive_user83 :) |
| 16:28.23 | wizard123 | welcome Elive_user83 |
| 16:28.24 | wizard123 | how can we help you ? :) |
| 16:28.24 | PrinceAMD | hi Elive_user83 |
| 16:28.53 | wizard123 | i wasn't very active last time :P |
| 16:29.10 | roxville | lol he must be going nuts over the pings by now :) |
| 16:29.17 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 16:29.35 | wizard123 | nuts? |
| 16:29.44 | roxville | yes...crazy |
| 16:29.44 | PrinceAMD | i disable that along time ago |
| 16:30.03 | wizard123 | what pings? |
| 16:30.03 | roxville | it's pretty handy sometimes...so i keep it |
| 16:30.18 | wizard123 | like this: |
| 16:30.19 | wizard123 | roxville: ? |
| 16:30.24 | roxville | wizard123, the piano sound when someone types yer nick |
| 16:30.28 | PrinceAMD | i have 12inch speakers and .... they are very loud |
| 16:30.29 | roxville | yes |
| 16:30.38 | roxville | 12 inch? |
| 16:30.38 | wizard123 | PrinceAMD: PrinceAMD PrinceAMD PrinceAMD PrinceAMD |
| 16:30.43 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 16:30.43 | wizard123 | cool |
| 16:30.44 | roxville | good GOD! |
| 16:30.46 | PrinceAMD | disabled hahaha |
| 16:30.54 | PrinceAMD | yep |
| 16:30.54 | roxville | that's wht i have on my guitar amp |
| 16:31.02 | PrinceAMD | 2 12inch 500watts |
| 16:31.06 | roxville | fuck... |
| 16:31.13 | roxville | that's scary |
| 16:31.14 | wizard123 | roxville: i bought acoustic guitar |
| 16:31.24 | roxville | cool! what ya get? |
| 16:31.31 | PrinceAMD | with 4 other speackers maybe 100watts and 200watts sub |
| 16:31.38 | wizard123 | cheap noname, but it is enough for me |
| 16:31.47 | wizard123 | secondhand of course |
| 16:31.49 | roxville | ok :) |
| 16:31.52 | PrinceAMD | my room is a CLUB! |
| 16:32.07 | wizard123 | but it tunes fine and sounds nice |
| 16:32.21 | roxville | wizard123, that's the only thing that matters |
| 16:32.34 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 16:32.41 | PrinceAMD | once it sould loud and clean |
| 16:33.07 | PrinceAMD | nothing else matters, even if you got neighbours that dont like rock music /metal |
| 16:33.15 | wizard123 | :P |
| 16:33.29 | PrinceAMD | i'm waiting for them to get a baby |
| 16:33.40 | wizard123 | hmm.. my neighbours have nothing against me playing |
| 16:33.44 | PrinceAMD | i'm going to play cradle of fith to it's ears |
| 16:33.50 | wizard123 | lol |
| 16:33.55 | PrinceAMD | filth* |
| 16:34.03 | wizard123 | anti-social PrinceAMD |
| 16:34.16 | PrinceAMD | lol not really |
| 16:34.27 | PrinceAMD | i'm out actually everyday |
| 16:34.46 | PrinceAMD | classes, then play some pool, drink some beer |
| 16:35.00 | PrinceAMD | i even host rock parties :D |
| 16:35.39 | wizard123 | hmm |
| 16:35.43 | PrinceAMD | roxville, i got the exquisite |
| 16:35.50 | PrinceAMD | where should i extract it? |
| 16:39.10 | PrinceAMD | i got it working |
| 16:39.14 | PrinceAMD | thanks roxville |
| 16:39.24 | PrinceAMD | rename it gnome :D |
| 16:41.14 | PrinceAMD | .away |
| 16:52.55 | *** join/#elive Elive_user3 (n=Elive_us@190.80.61.140) |
| 16:53.11 | PrinceAMd | power was pressed by mistake |
| 16:54.41 | roxville | PrinceAMD, more mail :) |
| 16:55.02 | roxville | PrinceAMD, i put them in /usr/share/icons |
| 16:57.47 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 16:58.37 | PrinceAMD | roxville, u sendt another mail |
| 17:01.05 | roxville | with gimp.edj in it |
| 17:01.12 | PrinceAMD | :D |
| 17:01.59 | roxville | i'd like to change the flash... to more seldom, and a faster flash, if it's possible |
| 17:02.19 | roxville | like every 10 seconds or so |
| 17:02.45 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 17:02.48 | roxville | hmmm... maybe the flash should be bigger... |
| 17:02.49 | PrinceAMD | yes it can be done |
| 17:03.14 | roxville | cool :) |
| 17:03.17 | PrinceAMD | the flash is not so nice the right end,there is no fade |
| 17:03.28 | roxville | i know |
| 17:03.46 | PrinceAMD | fix it up star :) |
| 17:04.03 | roxville | but if it's fast enough, it won't matter all that much |
| 17:04.11 | roxville | lol, i'll try... |
| 17:04.28 | PrinceAMD | i can make it fast let me decomple |
| 17:05.33 | PrinceAMD | u used terminal script hehe |
| 17:07.15 | PrinceAMD | lol i made it fade |
| 17:11.48 | roxville | fade? |
| 17:11.57 | roxville | i just sent a modded one |
| 17:12.05 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 17:12.23 | roxville | i made the flash bigger... and faded the corners |
| 17:13.04 | roxville | in thunar, i both decompile and compile with the right mouse-button |
| 17:13.08 | roxville | sooo easy |
| 17:13.25 | roxville | except you don't see eventual errors, of course |
| 17:14.00 | PrinceAMD | http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/index.php?dir=Animated%20icons/&file=gimp.edj try this |
| 17:14.34 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 17:14.44 | PrinceAMD | roxville download above |
| 17:16.03 | roxville | hehe, WOW! |
| 17:16.18 | PrinceAMD | like? |
| 17:16.18 | roxville | maybe fade juuust a tad faster... |
| 17:16.21 | PrinceAMD | u like it? |
| 17:16.23 | roxville | i love it! |
| 17:16.27 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 17:16.34 | PrinceAMD | ok i'll do that now |
| 17:16.57 | roxville | PrinceAMD, did you use the new flash? |
| 17:16.59 | roxville | no? |
| 17:17.04 | roxville | it's bigger |
| 17:17.06 | PrinceAMD | no |
| 17:17.09 | PrinceAMD | too bid |
| 17:17.13 | PrinceAMD | big |
| 17:17.17 | roxville | huh? |
| 17:17.20 | PrinceAMD | u want it big? |
| 17:17.29 | roxville | but a flash usually covers the camera... |
| 17:17.50 | PrinceAMD | ok i'll put in your flash |
| 17:17.55 | roxville | :) |
| 17:18.24 | roxville | it has more spokes too... |
| 17:19.33 | roxville | if you make the xchat icon fade in/out too, it'll be easier on the eyes |
| 17:19.44 | PrinceAMD | http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/index.php?dir=Animated%20icons/&file=gimp-rox.edj |
| 17:20.04 | PrinceAMD | ahh thanks for the idea |
| 17:20.13 | PrinceAMD | hehe was hungry when i created it |
| 17:20.25 | roxville | hehe |
| 17:21.18 | roxville | yeah |
| 17:22.41 | roxville | where do i change to longer time between flashes? |
| 17:23.06 | PrinceAMD | http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/index.php?dir=Animated%20icons/&file=xchat.edj try |
| 17:23.45 | PrinceAMD | roxville look for the line "transition: LINEAR 5;" 1=fastest |
| 17:25.01 | *** join/#elive PrinceAMD (n=Elive_us@190.80.61.140) |
| 17:25.01 | PrinceAMD | opps |
| 17:25.01 | PrinceAMD | exited wrong window |
| 17:25.01 | roxville | wow, nice effect on the xchat one! |
| 17:25.02 | PrinceAMD | did u try the new gimp |
| 17:25.05 | PrinceAMD | yep it;s pretty |
| 17:25.39 | PrinceAMD | WE ARE THE ELIVE ANIMATED ICON GEEKS |
| 17:25.46 | roxville | hehe |
| 17:25.51 | roxville | or fraks... |
| 17:25.54 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 17:25.58 | roxville | freaks |
| 17:26.00 | PrinceAMD | freaks |
| 17:26.07 | PrinceAMD | what's a franks? |
| 17:26.12 | PrinceAMD | fraks? |
| 17:26.25 | PrinceAMD | 1= it's a misspelled word |
| 17:26.44 | roxville | yes |
| 17:27.01 | roxville | 2 = it's a swedish word...no |
| 17:27.03 | PrinceAMD | the xchat looks nice for real |
| 17:27.10 | roxville | yep, for sure |
| 17:28.07 | PrinceAMD | u need make better gimp flash |
| 17:28.19 | PrinceAMD | i can still see edjes |
| 17:28.26 | roxville | F>U> |
| 17:28.42 | PrinceAMD | come on |
| 17:28.43 | roxville | but...it doesn't really matter |
| 17:28.49 | PrinceAMD | it does |
| 17:28.56 | *** join/#elive whadar (n=hadar@bzq-82-81-211-172.cablep.bezeqint.net) |
| 17:29.03 | PrinceAMD | if i can see it i'll find fault in it |
| 17:29.13 | PrinceAMD | if i cnt see it |
| 17:29.15 | roxville | ok, imagine looking into a camera flash |
| 17:29.22 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 17:29.25 | PrinceAMD | FUNNY |
| 17:29.38 | roxville | :D |
| 17:29.56 | PrinceAMD | put a dark wallpaper u'll see it for sure |
| 17:30.45 | roxville | target: "gimp_flash"; |
| 17:30.45 | roxville | in: 0.4 0.0; |
| 17:30.50 | roxville | so what is this? |
| 17:30.56 | roxville | i have a dark wallpaper |
| 17:31.10 | roxville | i see it... but it's not disturbing me at all |
| 17:31.33 | roxville | anyway, isn't the 0.4.0.0 the time between flashes? |
| 17:31.43 | PrinceAMD | idk |
| 17:31.49 | roxville | hmmm |
| 17:31.51 | PrinceAMD | only one way to find out |
| 17:31.55 | roxville | :D |
| 17:31.56 | PrinceAMD | let's mess with it |
| 17:32.19 | PrinceAMD | roxville, it's size issue |
| 17:32.42 | PrinceAMD | i think |
| 17:33.00 | roxville | well mine isn't very big to begin with... |
| 17:33.04 | roxville | so i doubt it |
| 17:33.19 | roxville | though my wife has never complained |
| 17:33.26 | PrinceAMD | i took out the line notting happened |
| 17:33.29 | PrinceAMD | ah well |
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| 17:34.25 | PrinceAMD | roxville, do u want me to put the flash over the camera lens |
| 17:34.38 | PrinceAMD | opps bad idea |
| 17:34.40 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 17:34.47 | PrinceAMD | like i forget how a camera works |
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| 17:35.46 | Gwildor | haha |
| 17:35.57 | PrinceAMD | Gwildor, this is not funny |
| 17:36.09 | Gwildor | lol, why not? |
| 17:36.13 | PrinceAMD | cus |
| 17:36.16 | PrinceAMD | it's a mistake |
| 17:36.21 | roxville | haha, it WAS funny! |
| 17:36.37 | Gwildor | HAHAHA |
| 17:36.38 | PrinceAMD | roxville, what other icons u think we should work on? |
| 17:36.40 | roxville | well mistakes can be funny...that's how things work :) |
| 17:36.48 | PrinceAMD | ha - ha |
| 17:36.51 | Gwildor | xchat icon is ugly. |
| 17:37.04 | PrinceAMD | my xchat icon is ugly? |
| 17:37.06 | Gwildor | work on... all of them, i dont like em |
| 17:37.18 | roxville | shut up, Gwildor |
| 17:37.20 | PrinceAMD | u dont like the firefox icon |
| 17:37.24 | Gwildor | firefox i do... |
| 17:37.31 | Gwildor | no no, i said wrong, im sorry. |
| 17:37.33 | roxville | PrinceAMD, he's just teasing you |
| 17:37.42 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 17:37.49 | Gwildor | the icons are fine, i PREFER 'official' icons. |
| 17:37.53 | roxville | he's not a fan of eye candy to begin with |
| 17:38.02 | Gwildor | i like my xchat icon to say "xchat" |
| 17:38.02 | PrinceAMD | oh... |
| 17:38.04 | roxville | i have learned to live with it...you can too |
| 17:38.14 | roxville | :) |
| 17:38.15 | Gwildor | what is here LOOKS good |
| 17:38.18 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 17:38.21 | Gwildor | PrinceAMD, im weird, jsut ignore me! |
| 17:38.35 | PrinceAMD | well u dont have to say that twice |
| 17:38.40 | Gwildor | hehe |
| 17:39.35 | PrinceAMD | roxville, i have to aggree with u the big flash better than my small one |
| 17:39.50 | Gwildor | :D |
| 17:40.01 | PrinceAMD | HUGE flah that makes u blink |
| 17:40.30 | PrinceAMD | hm... |
| 17:40.47 | PrinceAMD | this might come in handy in my new theme |
| 17:40.52 | PrinceAMD | when taking screenshots |
| 17:41.55 | PrinceAMD | roxville, y are u so quiet |
| 17:42.04 | PrinceAMD | u'r doing something are'nt u |
| 17:42.09 | PrinceAMD | what are u creating? |
| 17:42.35 | Gwildor | hehe |
| 17:42.51 | roxville | i'm putting clothes on my daughter |
| 17:43.10 | roxville | we are going to the park, and it's below freezing here today |
| 17:43.15 | roxville | :P |
| 17:43.34 | Gwildor | O_O, have fun |
| 17:43.37 | PrinceAMD | o.k. |
| 17:43.43 | PrinceAMD | yes yes have fun |
| 17:44.07 | roxville | i have to play with the edc... it needs to fade... but faster |
| 17:44.10 | PrinceAMD | maybe i'll modify the rain module and put solid ice blocks there |
| 17:44.18 | roxville | and then flashes should VERY seldom |
| 17:44.25 | roxville | LMAO! |
| 17:44.38 | PrinceAMD | i think Time can be arrange in the theme |
| 17:44.40 | PrinceAMD | 10sec |
| 17:44.46 | PrinceAMD | i'll work on it for yah |
| 17:44.57 | PrinceAMD | if i finish cleaning my 2 rooms |
| 17:45.11 | roxville | PrinceAMD, what would render you a nobel prize in enlightenmenting...is if you could put the clock module in a wallpaper |
| 17:45.23 | roxville | 10 sec or more |
| 17:45.47 | roxville | 20 may be even better...maybe 30 seconds |
| 17:46.19 | PrinceAMD | well 10sec to test |
| 17:46.25 | PrinceAMD | 30 to stay |
| 17:46.26 | roxville | ok |
| 17:46.29 | roxville | good luck |
| 17:46.34 | PrinceAMD | thanks |
| 17:46.46 | roxville | i gotta take off... my wife worked night, so she needs to sleep... |
| 17:46.49 | roxville | :) |
| 17:46.56 | PrinceAMD | ok |
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| 17:54.35 | elmo69 | apt moo |
| 17:54.38 | apt | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
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| 18:17.28 | elmo69 | prince, thanks for all the eBooks ;) |
| 18:17.51 | elmo69 | if you want, i can host it for ya beginning next week (after i grab all of them) |
| 18:30.24 | Gwildor | O_O |
| 18:30.27 | Gwildor | anything good? |
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| 19:13.05 | elmo69 | gwildor anything good on prince's site? ya! |
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| 19:13.20 | elmo69 | welcome elive_user## |
| 19:13.26 | Elive_user99 | Hello |
| 19:13.31 | PrinceAMD_1 | hello |
| 19:13.35 | PrinceAMD_1 | how may i help u |
| 19:13.53 | elmo69 | apt weekend |
| 19:13.54 | apt | somebody said weekend was something always too far away to be happy and passes to fast by when it is finally there. So it sucks too. |
| 19:13.56 | Elive_user99 | It is the first time I use Elive :) |
| 19:14.04 | Elive_user99 | thanks for your proposition |
| 19:14.18 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 19:14.20 | PrinceAMD | do u like it? |
| 19:14.20 | elmo69 | elive, good to hear. And?? how you like it? |
| 19:14.39 | Elive_user99 | YES ! It's great. I used knoppix one time before |
| 19:14.42 | elmo69 | hey prince, just picked up a headset http://www.logitech.com/lang/images/0/6698.jpg |
| 19:14.52 | elmo69 | works great! |
| 19:15.08 | elmo69 | quick volume and mic mute control. only $49 here in Canada |
| 19:15.20 | Elive_user99 | I come back, I try to see old files in my windows partition... |
| 19:15.26 | PrinceAMD | elmo69, cool |
| 19:15.49 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user99, elive does the auto mount, which i find cool |
| 19:16.01 | PrinceAMD | elmo69, u'r name is paul? |
| 19:17.37 | elmo69 | my name? paul? no ;) |
| 19:18.01 | PrinceAMD_1 | ok |
| 19:19.42 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user99, if u really like elive u should install it, if u have not yet |
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| 19:21.34 | Elive_user99 | Yes, I will install it. But I would like to save my windows files before... but I can not go on my windows partition |
| 19:21.50 | Elive_user99 | I try: |
| 19:22.03 | Elive_user99 | "su" |
| 19:22.35 | Elive_user99 | "mkdir /mnt/windowsfdisk-l" |
| 19:22.53 | PrinceAMD | do u want to create partition |
| 19:23.04 | Elive_user99 | "mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows |
| 19:23.28 | Elive_user99 | no, first of all, I would like to find my old partition... |
| 19:23.31 | PrinceAMD | u have to specify what filesystem type it is |
| 19:23.35 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 19:23.40 | PrinceAMD | open gparted |
| 19:23.47 | PrinceAMD | u'll see the partitions there |
| 19:23.59 | PrinceAMD | and it's file system type |
| 19:24.00 | Elive_user99 | where is gparted please ? |
| 19:24.13 | PrinceAMD | just type in terminal |
| 19:24.23 | Elive_user99 | no, It's is my curriculum and my thesis ;) |
| 19:25.01 | Elive_user99 | I've got gparted |
| 19:25.03 | Elive_user99 | thanks |
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| 19:25.41 | PrinceAMD | ok |
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| 19:25.55 | Elive_user99 | but he does not see anything |
| 19:26.12 | Elive_user99 | maybe my hard disk is broken :( |
| 19:26.16 | PrinceAMD | hm... do u have floppy drive connected on your computer |
| 19:26.49 | Elive_user99 | no, it is a laptop...with only a CD (Elive) inside ;) |
| 19:26.55 | PrinceAMD | oh |
| 19:26.59 | PrinceAMD | well exit gparted |
| 19:27.07 | Elive_user99 | ok |
| 19:27.28 | PrinceAMD | lsmod | grep floppy |
| 19:27.31 | PrinceAMD | run that |
| 19:27.32 | Elive_user99 | but you know, XP can not run because he say that a system file is missing... |
| 19:27.35 | PrinceAMD | if it shows up |
| 19:27.41 | Elive_user99 | maybe the hard drive is HS |
| 19:27.50 | PrinceAMD | e.g root@Elive-5[/home/princeamd]# lsmod | grep floppy |
| 19:27.50 | PrinceAMD | floppy 53604 0 |
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| 19:28.16 | PrinceAMD | then run rmmod floppy |
| 19:29.06 | PrinceAMD | then open gparted |
| 19:29.06 | Elive_user99 | how do you do a copy paste ? please |
| 19:29.07 | Elive_user99 | "ctrl C"...ctrlv" |
| 19:29.07 | PrinceAMD | highlight with mouse and middle click to paste |
| 19:29.14 | Elive_user99 | oki :) |
| 19:30.30 | elmo69 | ctrl+insert to paste |
| 19:30.33 | elmo69 | *shift |
| 19:30.39 | elmo69 | not ctrl ;) |
| 19:31.18 | PrinceAMD | time to read hotkey book ;) |
| 19:31.56 | Elive_user99 | I can not copy... |
| 19:32.55 | PrinceAMD | what every u want to copy just highlight it with the mouse, dont click off go to the place where u want to paste and middle click |
| 19:33.20 | Elive_user99 | no... |
| 19:33.35 | Elive_user99 | simple laptop IBM |
| 19:33.53 | PrinceAMD | shit |
| 19:34.08 | PrinceAMD | idk the keyboard keys sorry |
| 19:34.26 | Elive_user99 | i'm looking on internet |
| 19:34.28 | elmo69 | did you try shift+insert? |
| 19:34.31 | elmo69 | ibm thinkpad? |
| 19:34.37 | elmo69 | what series? |
| 19:34.37 | Elive_user99 | yes T42 |
| 19:34.41 | elmo69 | ahh, nice |
| 19:35.02 | Elive_user99 | they sell in belgium someones with Suse |
| 19:35.02 | elmo69 | i had an R40, R50, R51... they all sucked :P I want to get an X series |
| 19:35.43 | Elive_user99 | do you work for IBM ;) |
| 19:35.48 | Elive_user99 | are you in China ? |
| 19:37.00 | elmo69 | wow, i lost everything... i must be sitting in an 'empty' shell of the windows kernel! No Explorer running (cuz it crashed... again) |
| 19:37.18 | Gwildor | ctrl-alt-delete |
| 19:37.19 | Gwildor | run |
| 19:37.23 | Gwildor | explorer.exe |
| 19:37.30 | elmo69 | i dont want to ;) |
| 19:37.37 | elmo69 | all i 'need' right now is chat |
| 19:37.41 | elmo69 | and it is still working |
| 19:37.52 | Gwildor | hehe |
| 19:37.58 | elmo69 | plus, dont need ctrl+alt+delete, just press win+r |
| 19:38.41 | elmo69 | ahh, i guess that doesnt work :/ Totally forgot that win+[key] is an Explorer thing! |
| 19:38.49 | Gwildor | hehe |
| 19:38.54 | elmo69 | with it not running, i dont have any win+ options! |
| 19:39.07 | elmo69 | stupid windows |
| 19:39.14 | elmo69 | they gui dies, and you have nothing... |
| 19:39.25 | elmo69 | and cant install elive, it wont boot! |
| 19:40.26 | Gwildor | why not? |
| 19:40.27 | elmo69 | so where does that leave me? openSolaris ;) |
| 19:40.32 | elmo69 | or, i purchase another box :-D |
| 19:40.37 | elmo69 | nVidia, or ATI ? |
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| 19:49.28 | Elive_user99 | I found the copy paste... |
| 19:49.34 | Elive_user99 | copy: ctrl C |
| 19:49.46 | Elive_user99 | paste: shift insert (thanks to U :) ) |
| 19:49.59 | Elive_user99 | so what can I do please ? |
| 19:50.09 | Elive_user99 | to find my windows partition ? |
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| 19:50.57 | kender | hi |
| 19:51.04 | Elive_user99 | open explore2fs |
| 19:51.21 | Elive_user99 | scuse..i made a mistake |
| 19:51.23 | Elive_user99 | hello |
| 19:52.17 | roxville | Elive_user99, even easier, is to highlight the text you copy and just middle click where you want to paste it |
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| 19:52.25 | Elive_user99 | I'm using a IBM laptop without any mouse... |
| 19:53.00 | Elive_user99 | are you still here PrinceAMD ? |
| 19:53.24 | roxville | ahhh... |
| 19:53.28 | vectorman | hello |
| 19:53.32 | roxville | hiya vectorman how ya been? |
| 19:53.55 | vectorman | very well |
| 19:54.00 | vectorman | and you? |
| 19:54.28 | roxville | i'm good, thx :) |
| 19:54.56 | roxville | my daughter keeps me busy... i gotta leave again in a sec |
| 19:56.52 | elmo69 | rox, laptop, no mouse... |
| 19:57.13 | vectorman | I spent couple of days trying to find how to configure my keyboard 'on the fly' (using keybconf) withowt logging as root |
| 19:57.33 | elmo69 | is it working for ya? |
| 19:58.04 | vectorman | no |
| 19:58.14 | vectorman | I can't find how |
| 19:58.17 | vectorman | :( |
| 19:58.32 | vectorman | do you have ideas? |
| 20:06.54 | vectorman | гжгщтгжгожгтксщщкжщкскс |
| 20:07.06 | vectorman | nmbmhjkljklllklkjhjk |
| 20:11.04 | roxville | there is a key combination for it... but i'm afraid i don't know it :/ |
| 20:11.13 | roxville | ok, gotta go, sorry |
| 20:11.30 | vectorman | can yuo ask for me? |
| 20:11.39 | vectorman | can you ask for me? |
| 20:11.59 | vectorman | It is very important to me |
| 20:12.38 | vectorman | It is VERY important to me ... PLEASE |
| 20:13.44 | vectorman | ... if you will be here tommorow |
| 20:15.23 | elmo69 | vector, whatlanguage you want? |
| 20:15.35 | vectorman | bulgarian |
| 20:15.38 | elmo69 | kbconf ? |
| 20:15.50 | vectorman | yes |
| 20:15.54 | elmo69 | dpkg --reconfigure locales ? |
| 20:16.04 | elmo69 | make sure it is there, too ;) |
| 20:16.56 | vectorman | using keybconfig I must enter root password |
| 20:17.07 | vectorman | and choose language |
| 20:17.28 | vectorman | this process is very slow for me |
| 20:18.17 | vectorman | because in open office when I type documents I must mix latin and cyrillic letters |
| 20:18.57 | vectorman | in windows this is very easy - just click alt+shift and |
| 20:20.08 | vectorman | the keymap changes |
| 20:20.46 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user99, yes |
| 20:22.05 | vectorman | And here I need posibility to fast exchange keymaps (by typing keycombination) |
| 20:22.59 | vectorman | PrinceAMD hello |
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| 20:35.52 | PrinceAMD | vectormanvectorman |
| 20:35.54 | PrinceAMD | vectorman, hey |
| 20:36.26 | vectorman | How do you do |
| 20:37.00 | vectorman | I still search fast method to change the keymaps |
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| 20:37.49 | PrinceAMD | i'm ok |
| 20:38.04 | PrinceAMD | any luck with keymap |
| 20:38.24 | vectorman | and I think to use "setxkbmap" with keybindings |
| 20:38.43 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 20:38.52 | PrinceAMD | that would work fast |
| 20:39.06 | vectorman | I will try |
| 20:39.21 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 20:39.57 | vectorman | The general problem with elive is missing literature about it |
| 20:40.12 | PrinceAMD | that's true |
| 20:40.40 | vectorman | if I have good book, I will go fast forward |
| 20:41.41 | PrinceAMD | lol with no book, leaves everyone to discover |
| 20:41.41 | PrinceAMD | which is not really a bad thing |
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| 20:41.42 | PrinceAMD | brb in 15-20min |
| 20:41.45 | vectorman | Here (in Bulgaria) we have many books about suse and redhat |
| 20:41.47 | vectorman | ok |
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| 21:09.56 | PrinceAMD | vectorman, i'm back |
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| 21:47.02 | elmo69 | vectorman, get the bindings? did you check locales ? |
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| 21:49.11 | elmo69 | ok, i give up... stupid (crashed) windows is going DOWN!! |
| 21:49.19 | elmo69 | any 0.6.2 yet? |
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| 21:49.58 | rabe | hi |
| 21:50.01 | elmo69 | hi |
| 21:50.14 | rabe | is there any difference between using apt-get and synaptic |
| 21:50.21 | get | yes |
| 21:50.24 | get | one has gui |
| 21:50.25 | get | ... |
| 21:50.27 | get | xD |
| 21:50.37 | rabe | ;) |
| 21:50.56 | rabe | except that |
| 21:51.11 | elmo69 | get, havent seen you speak in a while |
| 21:52.01 | rabe | in apt you can make an apt-get upgrade is that possible in synaptic also |
| 21:52.19 | get | elmo69: yes im normally busy |
| 21:52.20 | get | ... |
| 21:52.27 | elmo69 | rabe, yes |
| 21:52.34 | rabe | how? |
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| 21:52.40 | elmo69 | but use cli, it is your friend |
| 21:52.49 | elmo69 | apt-get, dselect... whatever you like |
| 21:53.16 | rabe | i use cli but there is a friend |
| 21:53.19 | rabe | ... |
| 21:53.26 | rabe | wants to try |
| 21:53.48 | rabe | i dont want her to quit after getting terminal shock |
| 21:54.04 | elmo69 | terminal shock... you can take that more then one way ;) |
| 21:54.22 | rabe | lol |
| 21:54.26 | elmo69 | rabe, you have synaptic open? |
| 21:54.46 | rabe | second |
| 21:54.54 | elmo69 | i believe the lower left, has options there for Installed, Uninstalled, Upgrade? |
| 21:55.27 | rabe | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.56 | elmo69 | just snoop around! :-P |
| 21:56.44 | elmo69 | ok, rebooting |
| 21:56.49 | elmo69 | maybe it will work this time! |
| 21:57.30 | rabe | thank you |
| 21:57.53 | rabe | is there a difference betwwen dist-upgrade and apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 21:57.59 | PrinceAMD | roxville, cool |
| 21:58.03 | elmo69 | dont know |
| 21:58.10 | elmo69 | i do them all ;) |
| 21:58.16 | roxville | lol |
| 21:58.25 | roxville | rabe, yes, there is a difference |
| 21:59.00 | roxville | and... i just tried to explain it... |
| 21:59.01 | elmo69 | see ya guys! |
| 21:59.05 | roxville | but i failed :D |
| 21:59.08 | rabe | dist-upgrade loads all packages? and the other one only the ones u have installed ? |
| 21:59.30 | roxville | but i know that it's generally a good idea to just do dist-upgrade |
| 21:59.53 | roxville | no no, it's not like that |
| 22:00.04 | roxville | but upgrade is a smaller upgrade |
| 22:00.10 | rabe | ok |
| 22:00.24 | roxville | mostly just versions of apps/system libs and so on |
| 22:00.49 | roxville | PrinceAMD, i am re-thinking the camera... |
| 22:01.05 | roxville | maybe a red blinking light instead... |
| 22:01.37 | PrinceAMD | roxville, RED? |
| 22:01.44 | PrinceAMD | y red |
| 22:01.47 | roxville | yeah |
| 22:01.56 | PrinceAMD | i think the real light they use is something WHITE |
| 22:03.21 | PrinceAMD | roxville, ahyhow when u'r done just post it over :) |
| 22:03.31 | roxville | PrinceAMD, what i mean is a smaller lioght... like the one that blinks to check light, prevent red eyes and such |
| 22:03.35 | PrinceAMD | i think we should add these to elivedev |
| 22:03.36 | roxville | much much smaller |
| 22:03.56 | roxville | i mean NO FLASH |
| 22:04.27 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 22:04.47 | roxville | hehe, maybe do something with the picture behind the camera instead |
| 22:05.25 | PrinceAMD | hehe |
| 22:05.28 | PrinceAMD | not a bad idea |
| 22:05.31 | PrinceAMD | but what |
| 22:05.39 | PrinceAMD | put different images |
| 22:09.29 | PrinceAMD | roxville, want use to create a theme |
| 22:09.39 | PrinceAMD | when linuxnit come i'll give him the offer too |
| 22:10.18 | PrinceAMD | a hold new elive for when thana put e17 0.16.999.037=> on live cd |
| 22:10.43 | roxville | yeah |
| 22:10.58 | roxville | just don't get disheartened... |
| 22:11.05 | roxville | thana is VERY picky |
| 22:11.16 | PrinceAMD | yes i know |
| 22:11.26 | PrinceAMD | he told me he would though |
| 22:11.31 | roxville | i think making the coolest animated icons is a good start, right now |
| 22:11.34 | PrinceAMD | for elive 0.7 |
| 22:11.43 | roxville | ok, that's cool |
| 22:11.50 | roxville | hmmm i have seen it |
| 22:11.57 | roxville | it's an update to lucax |
| 22:12.04 | vectorman | PrinceAMD I HAVE FULL SUCCESS WITH KEYBOARD!!! ЗДРАВЕЙ |
| 22:12.09 | roxville | but he should also change the bright theme |
| 22:12.15 | vectorman | roxville |
| 22:12.16 | PrinceAMD | vectorman, GOOD! |
| 22:12.27 | roxville | maybe detour will look better when the time comes |
| 22:12.34 | vectorman | I accept congratulations |
| 22:12.56 | roxville | hehe, awesome, vectorman !! |
| 22:12.57 | PrinceAMD | maybe |
| 22:13.19 | vectorman | :)) |
| 22:14.14 | PrinceAMD | the test version of e17 in elive respo works great it does not crash |
| 22:14.21 | PrinceAMD | it's like very stable |
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| 22:14.30 | PrinceAMD | but still a alpha beta gamma release |
| 22:14.52 | PrinceAMD | the one on elive is like a uranium |
| 22:15.07 | PrinceAMD | if u try splitting it.... bOOOOM |
| 22:15.54 | rabe | how is the apt for firefox 2 called |
| 22:16.07 | rabe | iceweasel? |
| 22:16.30 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 22:16.47 | rabe | PrinceAMD, thanks, do you use it ? |
| 22:16.56 | PrinceAMD | yes |
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| 22:17.01 | PrinceAMD | it's way better than 1.5 |
| 22:18.00 | rabe | apt-get install iceweasel dosnt work :) |
| 22:18.09 | rabe | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.15 | rabe | i must use 1.5 |
| 22:18.16 | PrinceAMD | get it in synaptic |
| 22:18.30 | PrinceAMD | let me get it for yah hold |
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| 22:19.28 | rabe | if i try to install, it tell me that mplayer will be deleted |
| 22:19.48 | rabe | mozilla-mplayer will be removed |
| 22:20.08 | PrinceAMD | hm |
| 22:20.18 | PrinceAMD | upgrade your system first |
| 22:20.23 | rabe | u prefer synaptic |
| 22:20.26 | PrinceAMD | maybe that will solve that |
| 22:20.50 | rabe | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ? |
| 22:20.52 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 22:20.59 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 22:21.23 | vectorman | I have icewasel only by upgrading my system |
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| 22:21.38 | vectorman | and no problems |
| 22:21.39 | GPLGeek | finally home from work |
| 22:21.43 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, welcome home |
| 22:21.47 | GPLGeek | hi Tronyx |
| 22:21.49 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 22:21.53 | GPLGeek | hi princeAMD |
| 22:22.07 | vectorman | Hello |
| 22:22.08 | PrinceAMD | hey |
| 22:24.45 | GPLGeek | I got to talk to the microsoft developer customer today at work |
| 22:24.51 | GPLGeek | he told me some funny stuff |
| 22:24.54 | PrinceAMD | and |
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| 22:25.47 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, what did he say? |
| 22:26.02 | GPLGeek | Microsoft's quoted as saying "when you open your source you show all of your vulnerabilities" and another guy said "there should be no vulnerabilities to find" and a third guy said "That's why open source is destroying us, there are no flaws in production software" |
| 22:26.12 | GPLGeek | that was a microsoft meeting over ip |
| 22:26.54 | GPLGeek | so basicly they want to keep all the source closed to hide flaws, not to protect innovation |
| 22:27.25 | PrinceAMD | lok |
| 22:27.27 | PrinceAMD | lol |
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| 22:27.59 | GPLGeek | quote "The kernel is more of a mess than it was in 2002 and well... We can't afford any more complications" |
| 22:28.01 | GPLGeek | cant afford? omg |
| 22:28.05 | GPLGeek | they got like half the world's money |
| 22:28.20 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, me and roxville created some icons today maybe later tonight we'll post them up on elivedev |
| 22:28.28 | GPLGeek | sweet |
| 22:28.53 | PrinceAMD | gimp firefox and xchat |
| 22:28.55 | rabe | ok i have iceweasel now |
| 22:29.03 | PrinceAMD | good rabe |
| 22:29.10 | rabe | but im not sure if mplayer plugin is awailable |
| 22:29.13 | PrinceAMD | i hope u didnt clean all your bookmarks |
| 22:29.27 | PrinceAMD | shadow__, welcome |
| 22:30.16 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, i think roxville needs access to css on elivdev |
| 22:30.33 | rabe | no i kept them |
| 22:30.42 | PrinceAMD | i lost them :( |
| 22:31.22 | GPLGeek | oh cool |
| 22:31.27 | PrinceAMD | roxville, still editing that icon? |
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| 22:33.35 | roxville | yeah |
| 22:33.44 | roxville | and the css is CRAP |
| 22:33.51 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 22:34.09 | PrinceAMD | what about ifame |
| 22:34.33 | PrinceAMD | i think that's what it's called not too sure only heard about it last night |
| 22:35.16 | PrinceAMD | roxville, i was thinking about making a rhythmbox icon with 2 of that xmms animated speacker and put alittle body in the center |
| 22:35.36 | roxville | hehe |
| 22:36.12 | PrinceAMD | and for gaim i'll try to get that yellow man running |
| 22:36.37 | PrinceAMD | aMSN icon will be quit easy but it will be alot of coding |
| 22:36.54 | PrinceAMD | roxville, if learn how to loop the fox globe tell me :D |
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| 22:41.34 | PrinceAMD | GPLGeek, will you put up mail server on elivedev? |
| 22:42.06 | GPLGeek | I already did |
| 22:42.10 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 22:42.14 | GPLGeek | like a year ago |
| 22:42.18 | PrinceAMD | hm... |
| 22:42.21 | PrinceAMD | how can i get my |
| 22:42.32 | PrinceAMD | @elivedev.org |
| 22:44.27 | GPLGeek | that would be you /msg me a password to use |
| 22:44.30 | GPLGeek | and it will be done |
| 22:44.37 | GPLGeek | yours already existes, just passwordless |
| 22:44.43 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 22:46.42 | GPLGeek | e-mail account PrinceAMD@elivedev.org with the login princeamd+elivedev.org and password <****> was edited. |
| 22:48.01 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 22:49.04 | PrinceAMD | thanks |
| 22:49.19 | GPLGeek | im not sure exactly how to login cause I use the webmail program |
| 22:49.32 | PrinceAMD | i was wondering that |
| 22:49.36 | PrinceAMD | wtf |
| 22:49.39 | GPLGeek | but its probably just by port, or maybe you might have to do mail.elivedev or stmp.elivedev or something |
| 22:49.41 | GPLGeek | but it is pop |
| 22:49.49 | PrinceAMD | pc1 down :( |
| 22:50.35 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 22:52.12 | GPLGeek | If people have any documentation typed up about common issues can you throw it onto elivedev.org? It would help us get some good info back on the site |
| 22:52.50 | PrinceAMD | ok i will |
| 22:55.14 | GPLGeek | LinuxNIT has a working elivedev mail account |
| 22:55.21 | GPLGeek | you can ask him how to log in |
| 22:56.26 | PrinceAMD | ok i will |
| 22:56.44 | PrinceAMD | are u monitoring the server now? |
| 22:57.09 | PrinceAMD | cus u'r just supprising me everything i go do something and it's not working u have the answer |
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| 23:05.20 | PrinceAMD | server up |
| 23:11.46 | GPLGeek | now roxville has ftp login to the elivedev.org's web folder |
| 23:11.53 | GPLGeek | so he can upload his own css |
| 23:14.25 | roxville | yay! |
| 23:16.05 | GPLGeek | 1,500,000 MB Bandwidth/Month to 3,000,000 MB Bandwidth/Month |
| 23:17.36 | GPLGeek | $$$$$$$ AHHHHH! |
| 23:17.39 | GPLGeek | hehe |
| 23:17.53 | PrinceAMD | lol |
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| 23:21.47 | *** topic/#elive is Last version: Revolution || Documentation and FAQ: http://elivedev.org (EliveCD.org is down) || Bugs: http://bugs.thanatermesis.org || Enlightenment Channels: #e #e.fr #e.es #e.de #e.it |
| 23:25.56 | PrinceAMD | anyone here have a motorola razor |
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| 23:36.09 | GPLGeek | princeAMD dont buy them |
| 23:36.24 | GPLGeek | they break! |
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| 23:36.51 | GPLGeek | many of the flip-phones do |
| 23:37.56 | GPLGeek | the way they are made the wire / wires that connect through the hinge constantly move and being thin sometimes they just stop working |
| 23:38.31 | GPLGeek | consumer reports should actually have a site about how many "flips" each flip cell phone can do before they generally break |
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