| 00:00.35 | Adamant1988 | I know |
| 00:00.35 | Adamant1988 | But in other news, I'm still a capitalist jerk. |
| 00:00.35 | LinuxNIT | im remaining reserved and not just jumping up and saying yes to whatever anyone says |
| 00:00.44 | LinuxNIT | capitalism is awsome |
| 00:00.45 | Adamant1988 | Meh, neither am I, you should have seen me fighting with some people in the Ubuntu forums |
| 00:00.53 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 00:01.09 | LinuxNIT | over what? |
| 00:02.35 | Adamant1988 | all kinds of crap |
| 00:02.35 | roxville | hiya Adamant1988 ...been a while |
| 00:02.51 | Adamant1988 | usually opinions because I'm not some FOSS zealot who thinks burning down Microsofts HQ is a good idea |
| 00:03.01 | Adamant1988 | Heya roxville :) |
| 00:03.08 | roxville | :) |
| 00:03.12 | LinuxNIT | yeah youd probably go to jail for that |
| 00:03.22 | roxville | hehe |
| 00:03.39 | Adamant1988 | Yeah, but hey, in other news have a new girlfriend haha |
| 00:04.48 | roxville | so? LinuxNIT has a new girlfriend EVERY day! |
| 00:04.48 | Adamant1988 | Good for him |
| 00:04.49 | atum1997 | and PrinceAMD has 3 |
| 00:04.49 | atum1997 | well, technically 2, but it's 3 |
| 00:04.49 | roxville | lol |
| 00:04.49 | Adamant1988 | my last one was 1 1/2 years though, I don't like dating around :P |
| 00:04.49 | roxville | atum1997, leave PrinceAMD out of this... he's horrible! :D |
| 00:04.50 | Adamant1988 | But I'm sure LinuxNIT remembers me talking about Jenny. |
| 00:05.18 | atum1997 | good point roxville |
| 00:05.18 | LinuxNIT | well i didnt remember the name but.... other than that yes |
| 00:05.25 | Adamant1988 | Yeah, we broke up lol |
| 00:05.53 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 00:06.13 | Adamant1988 | yeah, you think you know someone, and they leave you for another dude. |
| 00:06.17 | Adamant1988 | I was kind of not happy about that |
| 00:07.18 | Adamant1988 | wasynyt!!!!!!!! |
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| 00:07.39 | LinuxNIT | yeah i bet |
| 00:07.46 | LinuxNIT | sorry it worked out that way |
| 00:07.49 | Adamant1988 | Worst part is I forgave her lol |
| 00:08.06 | Adamant1988 | Well, I kind of did the same thing to her, when that relationship fell through and she came back to me |
| 00:08.22 | LinuxNIT | forgiveness is never wrong |
| 00:08.41 | LinuxNIT | in fact its the right thing to do.... bitterness will tear up your life |
| 00:08.45 | Adamant1988 | My friend (and current girlfriend) was in a car accident that I just happened to be within running distance of, almost died, it's amazing how much something like that straightens out your priorities |
| 00:09.28 | Adamant1988 | She was like my best friend for four years, I honestly have no clue when I got attracted to her, but once things from the wreck kind of calmed down I like spilled my guts to her the next day |
| 00:09.59 | Adamant1988 | and I felt that wasn't fair to Jenny for me to split my feelings like that, so I broke up with her. *roll eyes* |
| 00:10.28 | Adamant1988 | I lead an interesting life, I do. |
| 00:10.42 | Adamant1988 | I have a new laptop now too, but it's a windows XP machine |
| 00:10.58 | LinuxNIT | new laptop with xp? |
| 00:11.06 | Adamant1988 | of all the things it could possibly have on it, it just HAD to have a BCM4318 wireless chip set |
| 00:11.08 | LinuxNIT | xp is outdated man use vista |
| 00:11.09 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 00:11.13 | Adamant1988 | you might know it as "Air Force One" |
| 00:11.16 | Adamant1988 | Dude, screw vista. |
| 00:11.21 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 00:11.25 | Adamant1988 | I'm not going to touch that until they fix the kinks |
| 00:11.30 | Adamant1988 | OpenSuse 10.2 > Vista |
| 00:11.42 | LinuxNIT | <Adamant1988> Dude, screw vista. .... or it will screw you |
| 00:11.51 | Adamant1988 | I tried the OpenSuse 10.2 live DVD today, and I have never been that impressed by a linux desktop, ever. |
| 00:12.16 | LinuxNIT | too bad its package manager still sucks :-/ |
| 00:12.31 | Adamant1988 | It couldn't make my Wireless card work (no firmware for it) but past that it was amazing |
| 00:12.40 | Adamant1988 | Eh, it's a lot better than it was.. |
| 00:12.56 | LinuxNIT | yeah but still sucks... i tried suse the other day |
| 00:13.01 | LinuxNIT | well sucks imho |
| 00:13.28 | Adamant1988 | I didn't install it, didn't feel like fighting with the wireless |
| 00:13.42 | LinuxNIT | is the fw on sf.net? |
| 00:13.45 | Adamant1988 | I figure the only thing I'm going to be able to make work with my wireless OOTB is Freespire or Linspire. |
| 00:14.53 | Adamant1988 | Oh, I don't know, I know the FWcutter is available |
| 00:15.52 | Adamant1988 | My prime concern is that apparently the FWcutter firmware can't connect to like B or G networks one or the other |
| 00:16.12 | Adamant1988 | but apparently NDIS wrapper won't be able to connect to secured networks.. lose-lose |
| 00:16.21 | roxville | <LinuxNIT> in fact its the right thing to do.... bitterness will tear up your life |
| 00:16.46 | roxville | sometimes it's easier to let go if you allow yourself to hate the person a little first |
| 00:17.46 | LinuxNIT | chapter and verse? |
| 00:17.53 | Adamant1988 | lol |
| 00:18.12 | roxville | lol |
| 00:18.43 | roxville | LinuxNIT, what i'm saying is that it is easy to say you forgive... but it's hard to actually let go |
| 00:18.53 | roxville | and after a while... you get bitter |
| 00:19.20 | LinuxNIT | that maybe true.... but then its not truly forgiveness |
| 00:19.35 | LinuxNIT | its only in word but not in deed |
| 00:19.43 | roxville | correct |
| 00:20.15 | roxville | being left like that...is hard to forgive...in your heart, even if your brain comprehends |
| 00:20.19 | Adamant1988 | I don't know |
| 00:20.23 | Adamant1988 | forgiveness comes easy for me |
| 00:20.29 | roxville | it's because you still love that person |
| 00:20.39 | Adamant1988 | No, in general |
| 00:20.47 | Adamant1988 | I'm just a very "Water under the bridge" type of person |
| 00:20.57 | roxville | that's good |
| 00:21.30 | Adamant1988 | I'm not in love with Jenny anymore, sounds kind of crude to say, but I'm not. |
| 00:21.43 | LinuxNIT | it may be a difficult thing to do.... but its the right thing to do |
| 00:22.50 | LinuxNIT | any way... i have to get going |
| 00:22.58 | LinuxNIT | ill catch yall later |
| 00:23.06 | LinuxNIT | good to see you again Adamant1988 |
| 00:24.22 | Adamant1988 | So, roxville, still working with the Gimp? |
| 00:24.33 | Adamant1988 | Or are you a photoshop user, I can't remember these things |
| 00:24.43 | roxville | i use gimp |
| 00:25.14 | roxville | IF i log into windows...which rarely happens... i use PS Elements... easier to use :) |
| 00:25.33 | roxville | ok, i'm gonna go get my daughter in bed... bbl |
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| 01:09.46 | Madtast | Hello People |
| 01:09.50 | Madtast | You All Know Me |
| 01:09.54 | Adamant1988 | I don't |
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| 01:22.24 | Madtast | YOur That Guy With That Stuff That Dose That Thing |
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| 02:04.22 | roxville | don't chat too much, ppl! we're running out of bandwidth! |
| 02:06.33 | Lodis4 | can I edit the sources list and just remove the fr. in orde to get a more local repository? |
| 02:06.42 | Lodis4 | lol roxville |
| 02:07.29 | roxville | Lodis4, yes |
| 02:07.44 | Lodis4 | sweet |
| 02:07.54 | roxville | just the debian repos, though |
| 02:08.48 | Adamant1988 | Roxville, where do you live at? like what city/state? |
| 02:09.41 | Lodis4 | roxville lives on the intarweb |
| 02:09.49 | Lodis4 | he is here everytime I login |
| 02:10.41 | Adamant1988 | Do you live in a metropolitan area Roxville? |
| 02:12.34 | roxville | lol |
| 02:12.57 | roxville | metropolitan...is a relative word... |
| 02:13.10 | roxville | i live in Charlesto, South Carolina |
| 02:13.29 | roxville | not bad... but not what i would call metropolitan... |
| 02:13.44 | roxville | Charleston |
| 02:14.35 | Lodis4 | is it safe to apt-get upgrade elive yet? |
| 02:14.50 | Lodis4 | last time I did that I lost X and had to completely reconfigure |
| 02:15.00 | Lodis4 | major PITA |
| 02:15.05 | roxville | i bet |
| 02:15.11 | roxville | when was the last time? |
| 02:15.23 | roxville | and what version are you running now? |
| 02:15.47 | roxville | and... 0.6.2 will be out..probably tomorrow |
| 02:16.09 | yawlright | when will the newer e17 be featured? |
| 02:16.15 | Lodis4 | last time was 0.5.2 or 3 |
| 02:16.19 | hermit2 | what kernel will .6.2 have? |
| 02:17.06 | roxville | hermit2, i'm not sure if thana upgraded the kernel... |
| 02:17.22 | roxville | if not, then 2.6.18 |
| 02:17.59 | roxville | yawlright, probably in one or two releases before 0.7 |
| 02:18.06 | roxville | maybe three |
| 02:18.09 | yawlright | ooooooo |
| 02:18.20 | hermit2 | I can wait, I know 2.6.19 has the k8temps driver in it... my board could use it |
| 02:18.42 | roxville | i hear ya |
| 02:19.16 | roxville | Thanatermesis, will 0.6.2 have a new kernel? |
| 02:19.27 | roxville | there, now he will see it :) |
| 02:19.30 | yawlright | apt upgrade |
| 02:19.33 | apt | it has been said that upgrade is remove opie*, qpe* and qte* packages manually [use shell magic, if applicable] and install task-opie-minimal. what you should do when ls /home/*/pr0n/ lags your CPU for three hours and puts the load at 5 |
| 02:22.45 | roxville | most likely 2.6.18, though |
| 02:22.54 | hermit2 | most likely |
| 02:22.59 | roxville | i don't think he had time to do a new kerne; this time |
| 02:24.22 | roxville | we gotta get some news out to distrowatch :) |
| 02:24.32 | hermit2 | indeed |
| 02:25.24 | hermit2 | will you be able to upgrade from 0.6.1 to 0.6.2 or total reinstall? |
| 02:28.29 | roxville | you can upgrade... but you need the iso, still |
| 02:29.32 | roxville | the upgrades work really well now, IMO |
| 02:29.46 | Adamant1988 | Downloading the OpenSuse 10.2 DVD iso now ^_^ |
| 02:30.00 | roxville | they don't wipe your prefs or /home |
| 02:30.08 | roxville | apt, kill Adamant1988 |
| 02:30.09 | apt | ACTION shoots a charged anti-positrino gun at Adamant1988 |
| 02:30.20 | Adamant1988 | apt, moo |
| 02:30.22 | apt | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
| 02:30.28 | roxville | open suse...sooo OUT!!! |
| 02:30.29 | Adamant1988 | YAY! |
| 02:31.10 | hermit2 | there's a bunch of stuff in the repo for upgrading |
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| 02:37.49 | roxville | hermit2, yeah, i upgraded earlier... there's a bunch ... |
| 02:41.11 | hermit2 | I wonder if it 0.6.2 will let the volume buttons on my keyboard work again |
| 02:45.46 | roxville | can't you set that with dpkg-reconfigure xservert-xorg? |
| 02:46.08 | hermit2 | I don't know, didn't look in to it |
| 02:47.36 | hermit2 | alsa mixer let you adjust the volume and xmms lets you too... just not the keyboard. i don't think any of its media buttons work but I only use the volume |
| 02:57.13 | roxville | i have some media buttons too... never really bother with them |
| 02:57.32 | roxville | in e17 key bindings, i guess you can set those things |
| 02:57.53 | roxville | if you wait a bit for the "new" e17, it'll be easier to set it |
| 02:58.00 | hermit2 | hmm...I'll have a look |
| 02:59.15 | roxville | key bindings can be set with "erme", i believe |
| 02:59.27 | roxville | as of right now |
| 03:02.35 | hermit2 | they are part of the menu choices too, not entirely sure how they work |
| 03:06.25 | roxville | i know... why do you think haven't bothered with them? |
| 03:06.27 | roxville | :D |
| 03:07.10 | hermit2 | it tells me those keys are bound to the proper actions but nothing happens when you use them... ehh |
| 03:07.41 | roxville | ok |
| 03:07.51 | roxville | i have no idea... sorry :/ |
| 03:08.09 | roxville | hmmm... |
| 03:08.38 | roxville | must how depending on what controls the keyboard...if it's xorg or... whatever the other options are... |
| 03:09.02 | roxville | must how? |
| 03:09.08 | roxville | have i been drinking? |
| 03:11.00 | hermit2 | lol |
| 03:11.31 | hermit2 | and I don't have a standard keyboard anyway.. its a mini |
| 03:12.16 | hermit2 | no num pad |
| 03:16.14 | roxville | ouch |
| 03:16.56 | roxville | i'm the farthest from a geek i know... but there is one keyboard i want...it's almost $70 at best buy |
| 03:17.08 | roxville | a saitek... with backlit keys |
| 03:17.12 | roxville | :) |
| 03:17.18 | hermit2 | no, takes up less space and I never use the num pad |
| 03:17.31 | hermit2 | ya. back lit keys would be neat |
| 03:17.56 | hermit2 | finding one that doesn't lose its letters is hard enough |
| 03:18.32 | roxville | http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8022891&st=saitek&type=product&id=1156607399961 |
| 03:18.38 | hermit2 | you can get the saitek in pink too. |
| 03:19.10 | roxville | that's great! |
| 03:20.06 | roxville | i've seen this one at best buy... the keys are awesomely laid out |
| 03:22.05 | hermit2 | it looks nice. I was checking out keyboards that had trackballs built in. neat idea but they weren't all that well made |
| 03:23.11 | hermit2 | this is a whole new twist on keyboards... http://www.alphagrips.com/ |
| 03:23.48 | hermit2 | more for the living room media center thing |
| 03:31.58 | roxville | sorry... |
| 03:32.15 | roxville | i had to watch at least the end of "back to the future III" |
| 03:33.04 | roxville | wow! |
| 03:33.06 | roxville | weird |
| 03:33.08 | roxville | :) |
| 03:33.30 | hermit2 | yup, the review at extreme tech is good |
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| 03:41.22 | hermit2 | roxville, this is an interesting page on keyboards in linux http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/funkey/ |
| 03:43.31 | roxville | ok, now THIS is geeky! |
| 03:43.45 | hermit2 | lol |
| 03:45.33 | roxville | http://homepages.pathfinder.gr/kazanaki/contrib/ |
| 03:46.42 | Adamant1988 | God, you're all so geeky |
| 03:46.45 | Adamant1988 | get out of my Linux. |
| 03:46.46 | hermit2 | it is best to already know c code... I can't program... yet |
| 03:47.11 | Adamant1988 | I'm going to study Software Applications and programming come June |
| 03:47.16 | Adamant1988 | I've got a book next to me on C++ |
| 03:47.24 | Adamant1988 | But I havent been able to really start myself on reading it |
| 03:47.32 | hermit2 | me too, but I'll be doing it on my own |
| 03:47.49 | hermit2 | haven't got time or money to go to school |
| 03:53.50 | roxville | me either |
| 03:53.53 | hermit2 | I really wish people would date thier web pages... |
| 03:54.10 | Adamant1988 | that's why blogs are cool :P |
| 03:54.27 | roxville | what i do, is open a edj i like... like an animated background... |
| 03:54.56 | roxville | and then look at the edc code in scite... and this document helps quite a bit |
| 03:55.47 | hermit2 | ya. I need to learn some bare basics. I couldn't get the hang of coding in NWN either... |
| 03:56.36 | roxville | i am s l o w l y getting my first animated background together... |
| 03:57.08 | roxville | i'll see how i can animate the purple one later... |
| 03:57.25 | hermit2 | ideally I'd like to be able to make a boggle game that looks like elitaire... a long way off i'm sure |
| 03:58.01 | roxville | i have never looked at elitaire code... so i have no idea |
| 03:58.53 | hermit2 | I haven't tried yet |
| 04:01.28 | hermit2 | but what I've read about the efl libraries, they sound to be clean, consise, and clear. |
| 04:01.44 | roxville | oh yeah, they sure are |
| 04:02.04 | roxville | and the amazing thing is... they are only getting better, faster and cleaner |
| 04:02.25 | roxville | most other wm's get so heavy after a while... |
| 04:02.46 | hermit2 | ya, that is pretty cool, they seem to have a lot of potential to do things not thought of yet |
| 04:02.48 | roxville | e just gets faster... to some extent |
| 04:02.57 | roxville | more eye candy takes more power |
| 04:03.20 | hermit2 | yet no where near the power vista requires |
| 04:03.30 | roxville | but they are bound and determined to stay faster than everybody else, save for fluxbox |
| 04:03.30 | hermit2 | amazing |
| 04:04.05 | roxville | it is :) |
| 04:04.18 | roxville | now the TOUGH part... |
| 04:04.20 | hermit2 | thats nice. i like how he keeps cleaning it and tweaking it |
| 04:04.47 | roxville | it would run soooo much faster if it could use ETK instead of GTK for graphics |
| 04:05.14 | hermit2 | ya, i've wondered why not everything was done in E |
| 04:05.21 | roxville | but porting apps to ETK takes a while... and is not the easiest or most fun job you can do |
| 04:05.41 | hermit2 | ahhh... compatability issues |
| 04:06.37 | roxville | not really... but most apps are written with a GTK GUI (gnome) or QT (KDE) |
| 04:06.48 | roxville | E is something different... |
| 04:06.50 | hermit2 | yet there are some E type apps that I see in the repos and I'm not sure how ready they are for using |
| 04:07.41 | hermit2 | I guess you just try it out |
| 04:08.50 | roxville | hermit2, entropy can be used...it's not ready yet, but...it works...it's a file manager |
| 04:09.10 | roxville | and epeg...for viewing pics |
| 04:10.39 | hermit2 | I see estickies are in there |
| 04:11.00 | hermit2 | I think they are like virtual post its |
| 04:11.19 | roxville | yeah... last i tried them... i couldn't even try them |
| 04:11.25 | hermit2 | have you tried euphoria? |
| 04:12.41 | roxville | no... only while having sex... |
| 04:13.32 | hermit2 | I read about rage, it should play dvd's irreguardless of the regional code |
| 04:15.45 | roxville | possibly... i have only tried it with avi's... but it's really slick |
| 04:20.43 | roxville | brb |
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| 04:35.00 | hermit2 | euphoria won't run |
| 04:35.13 | roxville | lol, ok |
| 04:35.31 | roxville | so... nothing to rejoice about, then... |
| 04:35.44 | hermit2 | there's a bug in someones code :P |
| 04:36.04 | roxville | probably |
| 04:36.29 | roxville | and it may not work in the "old" e17... that elive uses ATM |
| 04:37.32 | hermit2 | its dated the same as the xmas release |
| 04:38.19 | roxville | are you running the e17 from the tests repo? |
| 04:38.25 | hermit2 | yes |
| 04:38.39 | roxville | ok |
| 04:38.42 | hermit2 | hmm... that might explain it |
| 04:38.46 | roxville | it was updated earlier |
| 04:39.21 | roxville | yeah, that might explain it... |
| 04:39.28 | hermit2 | so the stuff updated in feb should work |
| 04:40.13 | roxville | yeah |
| 04:40.17 | roxville | i guess |
| 04:40.23 | hermit2 | maybe |
| 04:40.25 | roxville | or... i hope |
| 04:40.29 | roxville | :) |
| 04:40.38 | hermit2 | trial and error |
| 04:40.55 | roxville | that's what we're doin'... |
| 04:41.03 | roxville | or... "they" |
| 04:41.36 | hermit2 | thats cool, I find that when everything is working fine I don't know what to do with myself |
| 04:41.48 | roxville | LMAO |
| 04:42.27 | roxville | for those occasions... keep the edje link in handy |
| 04:43.08 | roxville | and start thinking of how YOU want it...or how to port an app to ETK |
| 04:44.30 | roxville | i would like to see a e17 theme for women... dunno if it would be worth it, but it would be cool |
| 04:44.42 | roxville | to get the wow! factor from women too |
| 04:48.22 | hermit2 | ya, that would be cool |
| 04:48.47 | hermit2 | like that background i saw that has the animated ladybug on it |
| 04:48.59 | roxville | yeah |
| 04:49.11 | hermit2 | I want the bug to walk around not appear and disappear |
| 04:49.48 | hermit2 | and there is something not quite right with the grass on it |
| 04:50.15 | roxville | yeah, i'm not all that fond of that BG...it's boring... |
| 04:50.42 | hermit2 | I'm using the dried earth bg |
| 04:50.59 | hermit2 | didn't like any of the theme bgs |
| 04:51.23 | roxville | yeah i like that one... have you tried the hands one? if not... don't! |
| 04:51.42 | roxville | i could hardly change back...the cpu usage went RIGHT up... |
| 04:51.52 | hermit2 | and I put the flame mod up... it uses quite a bit of cpu though |
| 04:52.03 | roxville | yeah |
| 04:52.36 | hermit2 | I don't like the snow one... well the snow is nice but I could do without all the trees |
| 04:53.10 | hermit2 | the rain is neat but the clouds aren't quite right |
| 04:53.42 | hermit2 | and I'm fairly opinionated on things I don't know how to change i suppose |
| 04:54.18 | hermit2 | I also notice that most of them don't really fit a wide screen |
| 04:55.19 | roxville | you can turn the trees off |
| 04:55.31 | hermit2 | you can, hmm |
| 04:55.42 | roxville | and the clouds, too |
| 04:56.25 | hermit2 | interesting... i didn't know that |
| 04:57.15 | roxville | go to the modules config and click on advanced, i think |
| 04:59.00 | hermit2 | well thats neat. don't know why I hadn't tried that |
| 04:59.56 | hermit2 | hey, the clouds have been improved |
| 05:01.38 | roxville | :) |
| 05:02.35 | hermit2 | now we just need a thunder storm effect |
| 05:03.01 | roxville | :D |
| 05:03.22 | roxville | the trees have NOT been improved, however |
| 05:03.51 | hermit2 | no, it needs maybe one that looks kinda like the real thing |
| 05:04.08 | hermit2 | and the snow could be a bit whiter |
| 05:04.46 | roxville | :) |
| 05:04.54 | hermit2 | then if you could get it to pile up at the bottom and maybe have the snowplow go by.... |
| 05:05.43 | roxville | hermit2, sounds like it's time for you to open up gimp and have a go at it :) |
| 05:06.12 | hermit2 | haa haa... I need to read its manual... I saw one somewhere |
| 05:10.13 | roxville | http://gug.sunsite.dk/?page=tutorials |
| 05:10.21 | roxville | this one has helped me a LOT |
| 05:11.34 | hermit2 | nice, thanks |
| 05:14.20 | roxville | hermit2, also, look into xara |
| 05:14.27 | roxville | it's a GREAT app! |
| 05:17.56 | roxville | http://elivedev.org/roxville/index.php?dir=&file=new-globe.edj |
| 05:18.20 | roxville | this is my animated BG... put in .e/e/backgrounds |
| 05:18.51 | roxville | it's a little havey... so don't use for too long if you have other things to do :) |
| 05:21.09 | hermit2 | not bad |
| 05:24.42 | roxville | :) |
| 05:24.56 | roxville | i'm gonna redo it now |
| 05:25.14 | roxville | i'm gonna need at LEAST 100 frames to make the globe spin smoothly |
| 05:25.24 | roxville | *sigh* |
| 05:25.27 | hermit2 | hmm |
| 05:26.05 | hermit2 | http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?t=25798 this interesting commentary on where xara is going |
| 05:26.10 | roxville | at 30 frames/sec that's 3 secs for a "day" |
| 05:27.24 | hermit2 | hmmm, does it need to spin that fast |
| 05:27.46 | roxville | wow, that sucks! (about xara) |
| 05:27.59 | roxville | hermit2, the slower it spinds, the more frames are needed |
| 05:28.12 | hermit2 | ya, nice info on inkscape though |
| 05:28.23 | roxville | yeah, absolutely |
| 05:28.46 | hermit2 | ya, kinda like makeing a cartoon |
| 05:28.55 | roxville | yep |
| 05:29.13 | roxville | and it also needs to be small in size and cpu usage... |
| 05:29.59 | hermit2 | hadn't really thought about how things got put in motion... not like spining a ball on an invisible stick |
| 05:31.36 | roxville | hehe |
| 05:33.04 | roxville | ok, i'm gonna clock out... gonna render around 100 frames in gimp... it's gonna take a while, and it's almost impossible to do anything else with 512MB ram |
| 05:33.12 | roxville | so... good night :) |
| 05:33.22 | hermit2 | ok, good night |
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| 09:59.07 | bouba_ | hi all :) someone know where i can download this wallpaper? :) thanks!! :D |
| 09:59.17 | bouba_ | http://it.geocities.com/jolanda_81/elive_1.jpeg |
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| 15:05.50 | bouba_ | Thanatermesis ping! |
| 15:06.10 | Thanatermesis | bouba_, pong! |
| 15:06.35 | bouba_ | hi Thana, how can i start elive with ntfs? (eheheh don't kill me ok?:D) |
| 15:07.00 | bouba_ | 0.6.1 |
| 15:07.55 | bouba_ | i tried some time sgo, but during boot elive stalled... |
| 15:07.57 | Thanatermesis | start Elive with ntfs ? what you want to do more exactly ? |
| 15:07.58 | bouba_ | ago |
| 15:08.08 | Thanatermesis | ah.. yes |
| 15:08.15 | Thanatermesis | thanks this to bill gates |
| 15:08.25 | bouba_ | exactlly on "unmounting ntfs...." |
| 15:08.29 | Thanatermesis | Elive actually boot without problem if that thing happens |
| 15:08.32 | Thanatermesis | i have put a timeout |
| 15:08.48 | bouba_ | yes i know that win suks :D. but i must use win:| |
| 15:08.58 | Thanatermesis | well, don't use it :) |
| 15:09.08 | bouba_ | ehehehe |
| 15:09.09 | Thanatermesis | 0.6.1 can't boot ? |
| 15:09.43 | bouba_ | after 3 o 4 ntfs unmounted nothing happened for about 5 minutes.... |
| 15:09.45 | bouba_ | so i rebooted |
| 15:10.57 | bouba_ | my question is: elive works with an ntfs partition? |
| 15:11.05 | bouba_ | on the same HD... |
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| 15:11.34 | bouba_ | 40gb, 20 for xp and 20 for elive :D |
| 15:13.53 | Thanatermesis | <bouba_> my question is: elive works with an ntfs partition? |
| 15:14.08 | Thanatermesis | write this in the inverse... ntfs broke Elive |
| 15:14.20 | Thanatermesis | <bouba_> after 3 o 4 ntfs unmounted nothing happened for about 5 minutes.... |
| 15:14.24 | Thanatermesis | umounted ? |
| 15:14.35 | bouba_ | disabled... |
| 15:14.36 | Thanatermesis | you are talking about the boot of the liveCD ? |
| 15:14.40 | bouba_ | i don't remember well:D |
| 15:14.45 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 15:14.52 | Thanatermesis | is on the step of generating xorg.conf ¿? |
| 15:15.03 | bouba_ | no |
| 15:15.14 | bouba_ | i retry if you want |
| 15:15.21 | bouba_ | and i will post what i see:D |
| 15:15.34 | Thanatermesis | yes, try again and look if the last line say this |
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| 15:25.56 | bouba_ | ok Thanatermesis, elive freez on xorg config :D |
| 15:29.45 | Thanatermesis | hum... i have look this in one computer... |
| 15:29.51 | Thanatermesis | can you report it to bugs.elivecd.org ? |
| 15:30.13 | Thanatermesis | test 1: remove the hard disk from the computer and try again |
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| 15:31.27 | bouba_ | i've 3 hd :(:(:( |
| 15:31.52 | Thanatermesis | remove all :) |
| 15:31.58 | Thanatermesis | just run with the cdrom |
| 15:32.07 | bouba_ | all the hd and boot elive? ;) |
| 15:32.15 | Thanatermesis | that don't happens on my computer.. i need to know WHY this bug for fix it |
| 15:32.23 | bouba_ | ok boss |
| 15:32.36 | Thanatermesis | yes, remove all HD, only don't remove the CDrom and boot Elive |
| 15:33.02 | Thanatermesis | its a first test.. know if the problem is due to the HD (ntfs maybe) or another thing |
| 15:33.02 | bouba_ | it's hard boot elive without the cd ihihihih:D |
| 15:33.11 | bouba_ | ok now i try |
| 15:33.21 | bouba_ | byyyyye |
| 15:37.19 | Elive_user28 | is there a way to fix the menus so packeges iv downloaded show up? |
| 15:37.40 | Thanatermesis | well, on that versions of e17 you need to put it manually |
| 15:37.45 | Thanatermesis | on e16 too |
| 15:38.07 | Thanatermesis | actual versions of e17 you don0't need to make it manually, but Elive is not ready for use it right now |
| 15:38.17 | Thanatermesis | other things not works, how entrance or engage |
| 15:38.25 | NPRfanboy | ok. would i do that through entangle? |
| 15:38.42 | Thanatermesis | entangle not works perfectly but maybe can help you |
| 15:38.54 | NPRfanboy | everything iv tryed except the menues are awsome |
| 15:38.59 | Thanatermesis | mmh, elpanel don't has a function for add the programs on the menus ? |
| 15:39.47 | Thanatermesis | apt make-eap |
| 15:39.48 | apt | it has been said that make-eap is http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html |
| 15:39.56 | Thanatermesis | maybe this can help you |
| 15:40.07 | NPRfanboy | ok thx |
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| 16:35.43 | bouba_ | ok thanatermesis. now i send to you the screen image:D whait a second :P |
| 16:36.17 | Thanatermesis | ok |
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| 16:43.47 | bouba_ | thanatermesis : http://it.geocities.com/jolanda_81/10022007.jpg |
| 16:46.14 | Thanatermesis | good, has work :) |
| 16:46.41 | bouba_ | muahahahah i'm the best!:D |
| 16:46.47 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 16:47.02 | Thanatermesis | strange... the problem looks to not are on the disks stuffs, but on the xorg.conf generation |
| 16:47.28 | Thanatermesis | ok... make the same test, bouba_, but this time, edit the file S90DSSLV-mkxorg (and no S30diskmounts) |
| 16:47.45 | bouba_ | roger |
| 16:48.14 | Thanatermesis | wait |
| 16:48.22 | bouba_ | k |
| 16:48.39 | Thanatermesis | add the line "set -x"... but also a 3º line saying "ls /media" |
| 16:48.46 | Thanatermesis | on the S90... |
| 16:48.52 | bouba_ | y |
| 16:48.56 | Thanatermesis | ah |
| 16:49.00 | Thanatermesis | and a 4º saying "mount" |
| 16:49.03 | Thanatermesis | just mount |
| 16:49.46 | bouba_ | ummm. ok for set x |
| 16:49.59 | bouba_ | then what i append? |
| 16:50.47 | Thanatermesis | after the first line, make a new ones |
| 16:50.50 | Thanatermesis | with exactly this: |
| 16:50.53 | Thanatermesis | set -x |
| 16:50.55 | Thanatermesis | ls /media |
| 16:50.56 | Thanatermesis | mount |
| 16:51.07 | bouba_ | ah ok |
| 16:51.18 | bouba_ | :d |
| 16:51.19 | Thanatermesis | for launch 3 commands on that time |
| 16:51.40 | bouba_ | eheheh i'm a little monkey:D |
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| 16:52.03 | bouba_ | ok i reboot |
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| 16:55.28 | Sonora84 | hi people! |
| 16:56.32 | Sonora84 | if I instll elive, then I get a debian with e17, is it true? |
| 16:57.11 | roxville | true |
| 16:57.23 | roxville | hi Sonora84 :) how are you? |
| 16:57.47 | Sonora84 | so then I can get whetever i want from debian repository? |
| 16:57.59 | Sonora84 | fine thanks! |
| 16:58.37 | roxville | :) |
| 16:58.59 | roxville | Sonora84, yes, pretty much... as long as you saty in the etch repo :) |
| 16:59.06 | roxville | elive has it enabled |
| 16:59.30 | Sonora84 | and I can also put it on a usb hd? |
| 17:00.12 | roxville | i can't answer that... there are ways to do it... but elive is not made for it yet... |
| 17:00.22 | roxville | there's no option for it |
| 17:01.47 | Sonora84 | ok, because I've got 3 partion on my hd..(1 winxp, 1 xubuntu, 1 data) |
| 17:01.55 | keyra | Sonora84: Ubuntu is OFF topic |
| 17:02.15 | Sonora84 | I'm not talking about ubuntu.. |
| 17:02.49 | roxville | hehe |
| 17:02.58 | roxville | Sonora84, don't mind her, she's a bot |
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| 17:04.23 | bouba_ | thanatermesis : http://it.geocities.com/jolanda_81/100220071.jpg |
| 17:04.36 | bouba_ | maybe isn't show all....:( |
| 17:05.13 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 17:05.55 | Sonora84 | ok, but gparted doesn't let make me another partition for elive on my hd.. |
| 17:06.09 | Thanatermesis | bouba_, ok, try again, but put the lines "mount" and "ls /media" after the line 48 (generating xorg) |
| 17:06.22 | Thanatermesis | Sonora84, you need to umount your disks |
| 17:06.49 | bouba_ | k |
| 17:07.15 | bouba_ | line 48 of S90D....? |
| 17:08.31 | Thanatermesis | yes |
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| 17:19.07 | sonora84 | ok, i'm installing it |
| 17:19.31 | bouba_ | thanatermesis , now i'm on another pc, so i can use the "test" pc :D. http://it.geocities.com/jolanda_81/100220072.jpg |
| 17:20.27 | Thanatermesis | good :) |
| 17:20.53 | bouba_ | always better bouba! |
| 17:20.55 | bouba_ | :D:D:D |
| 17:21.03 | Thanatermesis | mmh, that looks strange |
| 17:21.06 | Thanatermesis | like a problem of unionfs |
| 17:21.29 | sonora84 | then will it automatically be added to grub? |
| 17:21.50 | Thanatermesis | sonora84, yes |
| 17:21.55 | Thanatermesis | bouba_, ok... other test |
| 17:22.18 | Thanatermesis | line 51 bouba_, where says "dpkg-reconfigure..." |
| 17:22.26 | Thanatermesis | change: dpkg-reconfigure -f$XCONF xserver-xorg |
| 17:22.27 | sonora84 | thank you.. |
| 17:22.57 | Thanatermesis | to: timeout 10 dpkg-reconfigure -f$XCONF xserver-xorg || dpkg-reconfigure -f$XCONF xserver-xorg || echo Not workssssssss |
| 17:23.23 | Thanatermesis | bouba_, then, when are in the "generating xorg"... wait around 1 minute maximum.. you need to have news about it |
| 17:23.45 | bouba_ | ;) |
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| 17:25.58 | rabe | hi |
| 17:26.17 | atum1997 | hi rabe |
| 17:27.19 | rabe | is there a key kombination to show desktop in elive |
| 17:27.38 | rabe | like windows + d which minimize all open windows |
| 17:28.06 | rabe | it doesent need to minimize just show me the dektop |
| 17:28.07 | rabe | ;) |
| 17:28.37 | bouba_ | ls /media and mount? thanatermesis |
| 17:30.32 | Thanatermesis | bouba_, not needed |
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| 17:36.01 | bouba_ | thanatermesis http://it.geocities.com/jolanda_81/100220073.jpg |
| 17:36.26 | Thanatermesis | Sorry, this site is temporarily unavailable! |
| 17:36.33 | bouba_ | grrrr |
| 17:36.37 | Thanatermesis | http://thanatermesis.org/upload |
| 17:37.51 | bouba_ | done |
| 17:39.42 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, i think to its not correct |
| 17:39.44 | Thanatermesis | looks the same line |
| 17:39.50 | Thanatermesis | change: dpkg-reconfigure -f$XCONF xserver-xorg |
| 17:39.52 | Thanatermesis | to: timeout 10 dpkg-reconfigure -f$XCONF xserver-xorg || dpkg-reconfigure -f$XCONF xserver-xorg || echo Not workssssssss |
| 17:40.09 | Thanatermesis | in the first of the dpkg-reconfigure line (exist 2, one after other) |
| 17:40.16 | Thanatermesis | or better... change to this line on both |
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| 17:43.41 | rabe | atum1997, what have you forwarded to me ? ;) a bomb ? |
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| 17:44.06 | bouba__ | i'm here now:D |
| 17:44.21 | bouba__ | sorry i've unplugged the eth cable:D |
| 17:44.27 | bouba__ | thanatermesis |
| 17:44.58 | bouba__ | i've make some errors?:D |
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| 17:45.43 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 17:45.43 | sageLin | hi |
| 17:45.58 | Thanatermesis | bouba_, i paste you again the lines |
| 17:46.08 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> mmmh, i think to its not correct |
| 17:46.08 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> looks the same line |
| 17:46.08 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> change: dpkg-reconfigure -f$XCONF xserver-xorg |
| 17:46.08 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> to: timeout 10 dpkg-reconfigure -f$XCONF xserver-xorg || dpkg-reconfigure -f$XCONF xserver-xorg || echo Not workssssssss |
| 17:46.08 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> in the first of the dpkg-reconfigure line (exist 2, one after other) |
| 17:46.10 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> or better... change to this line on both |
| 17:46.14 | Thanatermesis | hi sageLin |
| 17:46.14 | bouba__ | i'm the double __ ihihiihih |
| 17:46.16 | bouba__ | :D |
| 17:46.27 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 17:49.14 | bouba__ | thanatermesis but i wrote this: timeout 10 dpkg-reconfigure -f$XCONF xserver-xorg || dpkg-reconfigure -f$XCONF xserver-xorg || echo Not worksssssss |
| 17:49.33 | bouba__ | it's right no? |
| 17:49.35 | Thanatermesis | mmh, not looks to has work.. or are in that line |
| 17:49.36 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 17:49.40 | Thanatermesis | write it on both lines |
| 17:49.49 | bouba__ | ah ok |
| 17:50.02 | bouba__ | also in the else branch |
| 17:50.03 | bouba__ | :D |
| 17:50.34 | bouba__ | o no?>D |
| 17:51.05 | Thanatermesis | yes... but is strange, needs to be are worked |
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| 18:05.55 | bouba_ | ok thana |
| 18:06.00 | bouba_ | ok thanatermesis |
| 18:07.56 | Thanatermesis | what's happened ? |
| 18:08.27 | bouba_ | :/ |
| 18:09.49 | bouba_ | don't tell me that i've mistaken:D |
| 18:11.16 | Thanatermesis | same thing ? |
| 18:11.40 | bouba_ | not the same... |
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| 18:13.15 | sinplomo | bentejuy, hola |
| 18:13.17 | bentejuy | hi all |
| 18:13.24 | keyra | sinplomo: que tal ? |
| 18:18.05 | bouba_ | thanatermesis, i must do any other test? :) |
| 18:18.49 | Thanatermesis | bouba_, oh.. wait.. i dont0 have look the image |
| 18:19.09 | bouba_ | bad bad taha! |
| 18:19.14 | bouba_ | thana:D |
| 18:20.12 | Thanatermesis | ok, try other thing... |
| 18:21.06 | Thanatermesis | boot again with the "1 single" parameter, login as root, and remove the file /lib/modules/2.6.18-elive/kernel/fs/ntfs/ntfs.ko , launch "init 2" and look if this time boots ok |
| 18:21.14 | keyra | Thanatermesis: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by gates for fuck the linux users ? is specially made closed and in a way totally incompatible with all and all standards, don't use it, you lost your time ! (and you data lol) |
| 18:22.32 | Thanatermesis | you are true keyra... maybe i remove it definitevly.. im tired of that crap |
| 18:23.29 | bouba_ | thanatermesis, a noob question. but why with other distro, there are no problems with ntfs?:D |
| 18:27.44 | Thanatermesis | bouba_, ntfs give problems, that's all.. sometimes works, sometimes no... is the same kernel module, or maybe other distro uses a special ntfs driver, i think to exists at least 1, but i don't have look at that |
| 18:27.52 | keyra | Thanatermesis: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by gates for fuck the linux users ? is specially made closed and in a way totally incompatible with all and all standards, don't use it, you lost your time ! (and you data lol) |
| 18:27.59 | Thanatermesis | :P keyra |
| 18:28.14 | bouba_ | tahatermesis, it works |
| 18:29.16 | Thanatermesis | ok... i remove definitively that NTFS crap stuff |
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| 18:31.15 | Thanatermesis | bouba_, maybe you can search info about what driver uses other distros... and if the other drivers to exist (with RW working good), is free and posible to include on Elive |
| 18:31.36 | bouba_ | i'm a noob, so i can't image how a windows filesystem can corrupt a linux fs. |
| 18:31.50 | bouba_ | some peoples use ntfs-3g |
| 18:31.59 | Thanatermesis | aha, that one |
| 18:32.03 | Thanatermesis | i don't know anything about it |
| 18:32.10 | Thanatermesis | <bouba_> i'm a noob, so i can't image how a windows filesystem can corrupt a linux fs. |
| 18:32.11 | Thanatermesis | easy |
| 18:32.16 | Thanatermesis | windows WANT to fuck linux |
| 18:32.25 | Thanatermesis | and make ugly things like this |
| 18:33.08 | bouba_ | eheheh :) |
| 18:33.43 | bouba_ | don't worry thanatermesis. VISTA IS OUT!!!!!:D |
| 18:33.58 | Sonora84 | ok, I've installed elive..now can I use something like synaptic or should I always use apt-get? |
| 18:34.01 | bouba_ | vista is the PERFECT SO! :D:D:D:D |
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| 18:34.23 | bouba_ | yes you can use synaptic |
| 18:34.36 | bouba_ | or any other kind of programs:D |
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| 18:35.05 | Sonora84 | ok, so I must install it: apt-get install synaptic? |
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| 18:35.23 | bouba_ | it's already installed i think |
| 18:35.29 | bouba_ | type: synaptic |
| 18:35.32 | Sonora84 | where? |
| 18:35.38 | bouba_ | terminal |
| 18:35.45 | Sonora84 | ok, I'm a stupid newbiee |
| 18:35.53 | bouba_ | me too :D:D:D |
| 18:36.31 | bouba_ | use tab function like this: type syna and then press tab |
| 18:36.33 | roxville | Sonora84, open elpanel, the folder with the tools on it, in your launcher bar |
| 18:36.33 | bouba_ | :D |
| 18:37.17 | roxville | click on the keys icon |
| 18:37.17 | roxville | then find the icon that looks like a software box |
| 18:37.17 | roxville | that's synaptic |
| 18:37.18 | Sonora84 | ok, but now I can't use it, I'm already using apt-get |
| 18:37.36 | roxville | just close the terminal with apt-get and you can reload |
| 18:37.58 | Sonora84 | but i'm getting upgrade now.. |
| 18:38.19 | roxville | lol, ok, ok... |
| 18:38.22 | sageLin_ | how to change layout keyboard in eLive? |
| 18:38.22 | sageLin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.22 | sageLin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.22 | sageLin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.22 | sageLin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.23 | sageLin_ | i press ctrl+shift - nothing |
| 18:38.29 | bouba_ | minchia ma sei italiano:D |
| 18:38.29 | rabe | is there a way to show the desktop fast |
| 18:38.31 | roxville | then you continue using apt-get! :D |
| 18:38.32 | rabe | in elive |
| 18:38.39 | rabe | like windows key + d |
| 18:39.01 | Thanatermesis | <bouba_> don't worry thanatermesis. VISTA IS OUT!!!!!:D |
| 18:39.05 | Thanatermesis | <bouba_> vista is the PERFECT SO! :D:D:D:D |
| 18:39.26 | rabe | yes we all 'love' vista, so hasta la vista |
| 18:39.33 | rabe | ;) |
| 18:39.38 | Thanatermesis | <Sonora84> where? |
| 18:39.38 | Thanatermesis | <bouba_> terminal |
| 18:39.38 | rabe | dont feed the troll |
| 18:39.39 | Thanatermesis | menus |
| 18:39.41 | Thanatermesis | utils |
| 18:39.44 | Thanatermesis | i think.. no ? |
| 18:39.50 | Thanatermesis | its at least in elpanel |
| 18:40.14 | Sonora84 | ok, I've found it.. nice panel better than in ubuntu, but i'm used to it.. |
| 18:40.14 | Thanatermesis | <sageLin_> how to change layout keyboard in eLive? |
| 18:40.17 | Thanatermesis | elpanel |
| 18:40.22 | keyra | Sonora84: Ubuntu is OFF topic |
| 18:40.41 | bouba_ | sonora84 sei italiano?:D |
| 18:40.50 | Sonora84 | si |
| 18:41.00 | sageLin_ | Thanatermesis ... how to switch layout? |
| 18:41.05 | bouba_ | pure io:P |
| 18:41.13 | Sonora84 | anzi, italiana |
| 18:41.24 | Thanatermesis | sageLin_, sorry, layout is not implemented |
| 18:41.28 | bouba_ | meglio ancora allora eheh |
| 18:41.35 | Thanatermesis | do you know C ? :) |
| 18:41.51 | rabe | c? |
| 18:42.02 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 18:42.04 | rabe | why do you need a tutor |
| 18:42.07 | Thanatermesis | for add the feature to the program |
| 18:42.13 | Sonora84 | ci sono tanti altri italiani che usano elive? |
| 18:42.15 | bouba_ | comunque elive e' praticamente uguale a ubbuntu |
| 18:42.17 | rabe | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:42.30 | Thanatermesis | bouba_, o_O' |
| 18:42.34 | bouba_ | dunque tutto quello che facevi in quel coso, lo puoi fare anche qui |
| 18:42.46 | Sonora84 | si, quello di sicuro.. |
| 18:43.16 | bouba_ | :D you can't read what i've wrote:P:D |
| 18:43.18 | rabe | dis she say : cause of security |
| 18:43.31 | rabe | read of cause but not understand |
| 18:43.33 | Sonora84 | devo andare a cena, ciao! |
| 18:43.39 | bouba_ | ciauuuu |
| 18:43.51 | rabe | why did she left ? |
| 18:43.53 | Sonora84 | I'm going to eat, bye-bye!! |
| 18:44.09 | bouba_ | :D |
| 18:44.11 | rabe | ^ |
| 18:44.24 | rabe | italian sounds nice |
| 18:44.30 | rabe | if they speak fast |
| 18:44.42 | rabe | i listen to italian music sometime :) |
| 18:44.58 | bouba_ | what kind?:) |
| 18:45.27 | rabe | many clasic |
| 18:45.47 | bouba_ | bocelli? battisti? |
| 18:45.48 | bouba_ | :D |
| 18:45.59 | rabe | yes :) |
| 18:46.07 | bouba_ | ;) |
| 18:47.37 | bouba_ | thanatermesis, good to see 0.6.2 :D |
| 18:47.46 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 18:47.55 | Thanatermesis | where you have look it ? infomail ? |
| 18:48.01 | bouba_ | yeeeees |
| 18:48.03 | bouba_ | :D |
| 18:48.21 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 18:48.49 | bouba_ | ingmail i can't see the images thana |
| 18:48.57 | bouba_ | in gmail |
| 18:49.15 | Thanatermesis | well, it don't render it very good... |
| 18:49.20 | Thanatermesis | use thunderbird better ;) |
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| 18:49.25 | Thanatermesis | i use thunder -> gmail |
| 18:49.26 | bouba_ | eheheheh |
| 18:49.41 | Thanatermesis | my email is gmail, but i use thunderbird for read/write |
| 18:49.47 | bouba_ | i use gmail on browser only for the chat:D |
| 18:49.49 | bouba_ | eheheeh |
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| 19:03.25 | bouba_ | bye aaaaalllll:D |
| 19:04.16 | Sonora84 | elive has got firefox, but debian has got iceweasel, so firefox is in elive repository? |
| 19:05.42 | Thanatermesis | firefox = iceweasel |
| 19:05.51 | Thanatermesis | Sonora84, http://elivecd.org/gb/Main/News/_articles/51.html |
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| 19:09.15 | Sonora84 | ok, thanks (I knew they were the same, but I thought the update from firefox packages to icewaesel was not automatic) |
| 19:12.02 | Sonora84 | sorry I was used to think like a ubu...-user |
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| 19:13.35 | sageLin | how to set animated background? |
| 19:13.35 | sageLin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.08 | Thanatermesis | well, actually firefox links to iceweasel, just for who don't knows it |
| 19:15.08 | narr | hi yall |
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| 19:15.31 | Thanatermesis | sageLin, backgrounds stuff has changed in the code in a thing |
| 19:15.38 | sageLin | narr: hi |
| 19:15.46 | Thanatermesis | keyra, background wallpaper e17 not works google ? |
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| 19:15.54 | keyra | Thanatermesis: the version of E17 in Elive Revolution is a old but stable version, this means to its incompatible with some updates of E17 things (no on Elive, but for example on www.get-e.org), if you want to use a recent version of e17 you can install it from the tests repository: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Tests_branch_repository |
| 19:16.10 | Thanatermesis | mmh, wrong answer keyra |
| 19:16.28 | Thanatermesis | ask LinuxNIT, sageLin, i dont remember the link |
| 19:16.33 | Thanatermesis | or search in bugs.thanatermesis.org |
| 19:16.58 | sageLin | ok, thx |
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| 19:57.40 | Sonora84 | I've got a last question: can I use the desktop star on a image that I chose? how? |
| 19:58.40 | Sonora84 | i.e. create a new desktop wallpaper with the star of elive default theme? |
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| 20:01.02 | roxville | Sonora84, to do that, you will need to learn some more about enlightenment... |
| 20:01.39 | roxville | the animated backgrounds are "edje" files...with an .edj extension |
| 20:02.08 | roxville | you open them with command "edje_decc file.edj |
| 20:02.27 | roxville | it's like an archive that extracts a new folder |
| 20:02.36 | roxville | in the folder are the images and the code |
| 20:02.48 | roxville | that controls what the iamges do |
| 20:03.15 | Sonora84 | can I chanege only the wallpaper image leaving the stars? |
| 20:03.22 | roxville | no |
| 20:03.28 | roxville | i mean.. yes :) |
| 20:03.31 | Sonora84 | why? |
| 20:03.54 | roxville | you open it like i said, and change the background image |
| 20:03.57 | Sonora84 | if i give the same name the wallpaper image has |
| 20:03.59 | roxville | so, yes |
| 20:04.08 | roxville | exactly |
| 20:04.13 | Sonora84 | where is it |
| 20:05.30 | Sonora84 | ? |
| 20:05.40 | roxville | if you open thunar and press ctrl+H it will show the hidden files |
| 20:05.56 | roxville | the backlgrounds are in .e/e/backgrounds |
| 20:06.19 | Sonora84 | ok,thanx |
| 20:06.25 | roxville | hmmm maybe not the elive default ones, though... |
| 20:06.30 | roxville | check |
| 20:07.36 | Sonora84 | no, they are not there |
| 20:08.13 | Sonora84 | something like /usr/lib/share/.. maybe? |
| 20:09.17 | Sonora84 | i ask google.. |
| 20:11.21 | roxville | Sonora84, yes, in /usr/share |
| 20:11.25 | roxville | hold on |
| 20:15.23 | roxville | ok... the background is embedded in the theme...i think |
| 20:15.30 | roxville | that makes it a bit harder |
| 20:15.31 | Sonora84 | /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ |
| 20:15.56 | roxville | it's in /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes |
| 20:15.56 | Sonora84 | but how can I open it? |
| 20:16.07 | roxville | you have to be root |
| 20:16.17 | roxville | open a terminal and log in as root |
| 20:16.28 | roxville | then, type thuar |
| 20:16.32 | roxville | thunar |
| 20:16.51 | roxville | navigate to the folder and COPY the theme to your home folder |
| 20:16.59 | keyra | roxville: if you want to use the /home of another system, make a look to http://wiki.elivecd.org/community/es/blog/emamarro/hd_install_preventing_home_format |
| 20:17.37 | roxville | Sonora84, then right-click on it and look for permissions... set them all to read/write |
| 20:18.04 | Sonora84 | i'm in /usr/share/enlightenment/data/theme/ but my problem is how to modify the edj file, with what program? |
| 20:18.21 | roxville | look at what i wrote first... |
| 20:18.32 | roxville | COPY the theme to your home folder |
| 20:18.43 | Sonora84 | i got this |
| 20:18.48 | roxville | sty OUT of the root system |
| 20:19.15 | roxville | tell me when you have copied it |
| 20:19.37 | roxville | and changed the permissions |
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| 20:20.13 | Sonora84 | i've made this |
| 20:20.14 | roxville | go back to terminal and type edje_decc nameoftheme.edj |
| 20:21.35 | Sonora84 | got it |
| 20:22.39 | Sonora84 | than I have to chenge the image and pack it |
| 20:22.40 | Sonora84 | ? |
| 20:24.03 | roxville | Sonora84, in the main folder is a file called build.sh |
| 20:24.49 | roxville | you can use terminal... cd /home/sonoma84/themefolder/ |
| 20:24.57 | keyra | roxville: if you want to use the /home of another system, make a look to http://wiki.elivecd.org/community/es/blog/emamarro/hd_install_preventing_home_format |
| 20:25.01 | roxville | then just: sh build.sh |
| 20:26.38 | Sonora84 | what is the sh build.sh is to zip the archive in edj? |
| 20:27.11 | roxville | it rebuilds the .edj in that same folder |
| 20:27.23 | roxville | so look for it in there :) |
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| 20:28.16 | Sonora84 | and if I want to change name to the archive? |
| 20:29.20 | Sonora84 | should I change name to the directory? |
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| 21:18.56 | sageLin | how make shelfs on top? |
| 21:25.36 | mathmanp | right click on shelf, choose shelf configuration, choose advanced option in the popup menu, the rest should be self expaining |
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| 21:33.26 | dats | hola |
| 21:33.35 | keyra | dats: que tal ? |
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| 21:37.09 | dats | keyra: bien |
| 21:38.35 | dats | i tu ? |
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| 21:49.56 | wasynyt | good evening people |
| 21:50.59 | dats | xao |
| 21:51.03 | dats | bye |
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