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| 01:37.10 | adamant1988 | nah that's accumulated |
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| 03:03.20 | Hermit2 | What are the advantages and disadvantages to learning C vs. C++ ? |
| 03:03.47 | roxville | wow... good question! |
| 03:04.12 | roxville | if you learn C you can help out with elive/enlightenment |
| 03:04.26 | roxville | if you learn C++ you help out with windows |
| 03:04.33 | roxville | :) |
| 03:04.44 | Hermit2 | hmm.. I thought windows used c# |
| 03:05.03 | roxville | Hermit2, don't take me too seriously...i personally know neither of them |
| 03:05.09 | Hermit2 | as well as VB and .net |
| 03:05.22 | roxville | but e17 uses a language VERY similar to C |
| 03:05.25 | Hermit2 | I know none |
| 03:07.06 | Hermit2 | and I had read somewhere that C++ was basically C but with object oriented language added. |
| 03:08.07 | Hermit2 | so I guess I was wondering if that would be a help or hindrence with the EFL libraries. |
| 03:12.47 | roxville | Hermit2, knowing C would be the best thing |
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| 03:13.40 | roxville | afaik, it has far more similarities with EFL/edje/whatever e than C++ does |
| 03:15.38 | Hermit2 | ok |
| 03:16.56 | roxville | Hermit2, try this: http://elivedev.org/roxville/index.php?dir=&file=new-globe.edj |
| 03:17.05 | roxville | it's an animated background |
| 03:17.53 | roxville | i've spent the better part of two days making it happen... |
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| 03:20.59 | Hermit2 | nice clouds |
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| 03:21.17 | roxville | lol, thanks :) |
| 03:22.11 | Hermit2 | it may be my res but I think the planet is a bit too vibrant for the background |
| 03:22.23 | Hermit2 | the stars need sharpening |
| 03:22.37 | Hermit2 | I like the frame it sits in |
| 03:22.55 | roxville | i couldn't figure out how to put the clouds in front of the globe... but PrinceAMD, my saviour, helped me with that :) |
| 03:23.41 | Hermit2 | they need to move too... in the oposite direction of the planet |
| 03:24.04 | Hermit2 | its looking pretty cool though |
| 03:24.10 | roxville | yeah well... learn edje, and you can help me with that :) |
| 03:24.29 | Hermit2 | lol... I will |
| 03:24.53 | roxville | first... let's open the .edj |
| 03:25.00 | roxville | open that dir |
| 03:25.32 | roxville | i'm gonna teach you how to make the planet spin a little faster |
| 03:25.34 | Hermit2 | how |
| 03:25.48 | Hermit2 | to open the file |
| 03:26.00 | roxville | are you in thunar? |
| 03:26.13 | roxville | or terminal? |
| 03:26.32 | Hermit2 | where should I be? |
| 03:26.38 | roxville | i use thunar |
| 03:26.54 | roxville | go to .e/e/backgrounds |
| 03:27.21 | Hermit2 | ok |
| 03:27.45 | roxville | right-click on new-globe.dej and tell me if you get a "open with edje_decc" option |
| 03:29.03 | roxville | it should be the first option |
| 03:29.08 | Hermit2 | no I don't, I get open with... I have to choose and edje_decc is not an option |
| 03:29.21 | roxville | ok |
| 03:29.37 | roxville | do the open with other option |
| 03:29.54 | roxville | and at the bottom is a command you can type in |
| 03:29.59 | Hermit2 | I did |
| 03:30.05 | roxville | just put in "edje_decc" |
| 03:30.15 | Hermit2 | now I have a file full of planets |
| 03:30.22 | roxville | yep :) |
| 03:30.34 | roxville | ok, scroll down to the bottom |
| 03:30.51 | Hermit2 | ok |
| 03:30.54 | roxville | right-click on icon.edc and choose "scite" |
| 03:31.07 | roxville | or the edc... |
| 03:31.26 | Hermit2 | it does that automatic if you double left click |
| 03:31.36 | roxville | ok |
| 03:31.49 | roxville | scroll to the bottom of that edc |
| 03:32.04 | Hermit2 | ok |
| 03:32.13 | roxville | action: STATE_SET "default" 0.0; |
| 03:32.15 | roxville | transition: LINEAR 20.0; |
| 03:32.32 | roxville | set linear to 10 instead |
| 03:32.46 | roxville | then save it |
| 03:32.50 | roxville | the edc |
| 03:33.18 | Hermit2 | ok |
| 03:33.30 | roxville | then back in the dir, right-click on build.sh and choose "execiute" |
| 03:34.01 | Hermit2 | ok |
| 03:34.10 | roxville | after a few seconds, a new "new-globe.edj" should appear |
| 03:34.12 | Hermit2 | got a new foot file |
| 03:34.17 | roxville | lol |
| 03:34.31 | roxville | take it and drag it into "backgrounds |
| 03:34.36 | roxville | and restart e |
| 03:35.49 | Hermit2 | do I want to overwrite the original? |
| 03:35.57 | roxville | yeah |
| 03:36.45 | roxville | then just click on the desktop, go to "enlightenment->restart" |
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| 03:37.06 | Hermit2 | ok |
| 03:37.40 | roxville | does the earth spin faster now? |
| 03:38.33 | roxville | the edc file is the code... look through it...that's where it all happens |
| 03:38.47 | Hermit2 | ya |
| 03:39.02 | roxville | you can open other animated backgrounds from get-e,org and have a look |
| 03:39.10 | roxville | same with the animated icons |
| 03:39.44 | Hermit2 | ok, cool |
| 03:39.56 | roxville | http://homepages.pathfinder.gr/kazanaki/contrib/ch04.html |
| 03:40.15 | roxville | this is the most recent documentation, i think |
| 03:40.24 | roxville | it's pretty easy reading |
| 03:40.42 | roxville | the understanding part... i can NOT include! |
| 03:41.53 | Hermit2 | ya... |
| 03:42.08 | roxville | now Hermit2 if you speed the globe up, like you did, you use more cpu cycles... so you may wanna slow it back down to 16-29 again... |
| 03:42.21 | roxville | 20, sorry |
| 03:42.42 | roxville | slower than that, and you "see" the frames... |
| 03:42.52 | Hermit2 | ahh |
| 03:43.54 | roxville | i had to use 200 little globes to make it kinda smooth... so that makes the file bigger, which affects everything, since it adds to the load of the system |
| 03:45.11 | Hermit2 | hmmm, that can be an issue. I don't much notice it on my system. but is something to be aware of |
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| 03:45.53 | roxville | i tried to add another animation, of the stars earlier, but... it added way too much to the size, and not enough "wow!" to make it worth it |
| 03:47.03 | Hermit2 | ya |
| 03:47.23 | roxville | the .edj was 11MB... not fun |
| 03:48.10 | roxville | there's a LOT of things you can do to make it different... you can even make that one a bit smaller, if you wish |
| 03:48.56 | roxville | but if you're gonna open it several times... it will de-generate the quality of the images |
| 03:50.50 | Hermit2 | just by opening it |
| 03:51.02 | roxville | yeah |
| 03:51.16 | roxville | or, each time to run the build script |
| 03:51.52 | Hermit2 | interesting |
| 03:52.03 | roxville | if you change the image quality from COMP to LOSSY, say... LOSSY 65 |
| 03:53.03 | roxville | so if you open the .edj you just created...with "LOSSY", edit it and build it...and then open the new .edj again...and so on |
| 03:54.12 | Hermit2 | oh |
| 03:54.48 | roxville | just today i discovered how wonderful scite is...i was crying as i had to change all the globe images from FRAME LOSSY 60 to COMP, when i discovered that scite would let me change everything that said FRAM to COMP :) |
| 03:55.12 | roxville | FRAME, not FRAM |
| 03:55.26 | Hermit2 | nice |
| 03:55.37 | roxville | and every globe image had "FRAME" after it... |
| 03:55.45 | roxville | yep, very nice |
| 03:56.19 | Hermit2 | thats why things get put on back burners I think |
| 03:56.28 | adamant1988 | Hello all |
| 03:56.32 | roxville | hehe |
| 03:56.39 | roxville | hi adamant1988 |
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| 03:56.48 | adamant1988 | hey look |
| 03:56.53 | adamant1988 | It's my favorite Elkins preacher |
| 03:56.55 | roxville | yeah :) |
| 03:56.58 | roxville | revdjenk, :) |
| 03:57.04 | adamant1988 | On a sunday night even |
| 03:57.07 | revdjenk | wow you guys are fast! |
| 03:57.08 | roxville | hehe |
| 03:57.18 | revdjenk | haven't had a nap either! |
| 03:57.18 | LinuxNIT | howdy revdjenk |
| 03:57.23 | revdjenk | hey all |
| 03:58.09 | Hermit2 | hello |
| 03:58.09 | adamant1988 | rev. you ever get that wireless working? |
| 03:58.09 | revdjenk | hey Hermit2...wow everyone is here |
| 03:58.09 | revdjenk | nah... it is a kernel problem |
| 03:58.09 | adamant1988 | Oh dear. |
| 03:58.09 | revdjenk | everyone is reporting that |
| 03:58.23 | adamant1988 | Ah, well, have you tried OpenSuse 10.2 ;) |
| 03:58.46 | revdjenk | no, but mepis, knoppix, kubuntu dreamlinux |
| 03:58.50 | revdjenk | mandriva |
| 03:59.11 | revdjenk | and suse was the worst...no, mandriva was...wouldn't even boot |
| 03:59.20 | adamant1988 | Haha |
| 03:59.26 | adamant1988 | I tell you, OpenSuse 10.2 is amazing |
| 03:59.35 | adamant1988 | they've really out done themselves with that release, it's a milestone. |
| 03:59.41 | revdjenk | not on my machine, no audo or wifi |
| 03:59.51 | adamant1988 | That's odd |
| 04:00.00 | adamant1988 | because do you remember how I told you about my laptop? |
| 04:00.05 | adamant1988 | how much it HATES linux |
| 04:00.15 | revdjenk | I remind you...the averatec ppl were almost hostile to my mention of linux |
| 04:00.25 | roxville | lol |
| 04:00.25 | adamant1988 | 10.2 ran a dream on it, it was amazing. |
| 04:00.35 | revdjenk | hmmmm |
| 04:00.58 | adamant1988 | The liveDVD just blew me away |
| 04:01.20 | revdjenk | well, maybe I will have to find you and borrow that |
| 04:01.53 | revdjenk | anyway... LinuxNIT, have you seen patty today? |
| 04:02.00 | adamant1988 | Well, I'm done with school at like... 9 AM daily (unless there is a delay, if that's the case 10 AM) So you can find me there |
| 04:02.15 | LinuxNIT | i have not |
| 04:02.21 | revdjenk | you are done at 9am? |
| 04:02.27 | adamant1988 | Yup |
| 04:02.42 | revdjenk | hey she's on copperhead... bbiab |
| 04:03.00 | roxville | what, school starts at 2am nowadays? |
| 04:03.00 | adamant1988 | Say, LinuxNIT you know any "Linux experts" (people damn skilled with their knowledge of how linux interacts with hardware and such) that need a project to contribute to ;) |
| 04:03.18 | adamant1988 | Haha, I wish |
| 04:03.21 | adamant1988 | That would rock |
| 04:03.21 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:03.26 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 04:03.34 | adamant1988 | But no, I only go for part of the day |
| 04:04.04 | roxville | yeah... between 8.30 and 9 |
| 04:04.25 | adamant1988 | Uhm... no... |
| 04:04.32 | adamant1988 | 7:30 and 9... lol. |
| 04:04.37 | adamant1988 | Classes are 1 1/2 hours typically |
| 04:04.38 | roxville | "hi miss kendall...oops, time to go!" |
| 04:05.46 | adamant1988 | that hardware compatibility site is finally starting to get off of the ground |
| 04:06.10 | LinuxNIT | adamant1988, what is the project? |
| 04:06.26 | adamant1988 | I'll just link you to the forum.. easier to explain |
| 04:06.44 | adamant1988 | http://www.punbb-hosting.com/forums/endorsedbylinux/viewtopic.php?id=6 |
| 04:07.37 | adamant1988 | There's a lot more info in the forums of course lol. It's mostly just us trying to get organized. |
| 04:08.11 | LinuxNIT | only guy i can think of that might be interested is metaphaze |
| 04:08.19 | LinuxNIT | he is here from time to time |
| 04:08.31 | LinuxNIT | gentoo freak that also likes elive ;) |
| 04:08.33 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 04:08.44 | roxville | so Hermit2 you are now on your way to a prosperous life of understanding and creating graphics/apps for enlightenment! |
| 04:08.47 | adamant1988 | Well, we have someone who has the knowledge to make the client for this. |
| 04:08.56 | Hermit2 | thanks |
| 04:09.00 | roxville | :) |
| 04:09.09 | adamant1988 | But what we don't have is someone who knows enough about linux to tell us where to get the info we need, and what's important to collect. |
| 04:09.39 | LinuxNIT | adamant1988, i know he has talked about a project like that before... so talk to him and see what he knows |
| 04:09.40 | roxville | adamant1988, google a LUG in your area |
| 04:10.00 | adamant1988 | This is West Viginia.. |
| 04:10.03 | adamant1988 | there are no LUGs |
| 04:10.28 | roxville | ok, sorry... |
| 04:10.29 | Hermit2 | I know ubuntu was trying to do a wiki of compatable linux hardware |
| 04:10.36 | adamant1988 | You obviously missed my story where a guy thought Linux was a form of candy when I first mentioned it :( |
| 04:10.47 | adamant1988 | Hermit, yes, and it's well done except ITS A WIKI |
| 04:10.47 | roxville | hehe |
| 04:11.00 | adamant1988 | and it only covers Ubuntu |
| 04:11.05 | roxville | my step sons COMPUTER teacher had no idea either... |
| 04:11.38 | adamant1988 | That's ok, I've seen computer teachers that have said things like "You have to install the internet to get on it" and when I asked them to explain they pointed me to IE7. |
| 04:11.56 | roxville | she thought elive was a virus app, trying to take over the school |
| 04:12.06 | adamant1988 | Dude |
| 04:12.09 | roxville | hehe |
| 04:12.11 | adamant1988 | I got kicked out of best buy for that crap |
| 04:12.38 | adamant1988 | I popped an Ubuntu LiveCD in a demo PC at best buy and I was asked to leave for trying to load up a virus :( |
| 04:12.40 | roxville | :D |
| 04:13.01 | adamant1988 | I weep for the future. |
| 04:13.03 | roxville | yeah, i remember that incident, actually :) |
| 04:13.25 | adamant1988 | I was mad |
| 04:13.27 | adamant1988 | I don't shop there now |
| 04:13.37 | Hermit2 | lol... I wonder if you ask the geek squad about linux what answer you'll get |
| 04:13.50 | roxville | yeah :D |
| 04:14.00 | roxville | hehe, that'd be fun to hear |
| 04:14.05 | adamant1988 | Hehe, girlfriend called. BRB |
| 04:16.08 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:16.14 | Hermit2 | haa haa |
| 04:16.18 | roxville | bet ya he'd be embarrassed and leaves as fast as he cac |
| 04:17.25 | roxville | can |
| 04:17.26 | LinuxNIT | i asked a guy in circuit city if a wireless card would work on linux and he just beat around the bush.... wouldnt admit he didnt know anything about linux lol |
| 04:17.39 | roxville | lol |
| 04:18.11 | Hermit2 | http://www.linuxtested.com/ this might be of some use |
| 04:19.39 | roxville | nice! |
| 04:21.03 | Hermit2 | maybe i should tell them that DFI motherboards work with linux and including the onboard sound and etho |
| 04:21.25 | roxville | sounds like a plan :) |
| 04:22.32 | LinuxNIT | nooooooo..... keep them ignorant |
| 04:22.44 | LinuxNIT | or is that like shooting myslef in the foot? |
| 04:22.45 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 04:23.11 | roxville | but linuxtested is a good site |
| 04:23.25 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 04:23.33 | roxville | and yes, that'd be shoot...oh, you were kidding... :P |
| 04:23.49 | roxville | apt, slap LinuxNIT |
| 04:24.00 | apt | ACTION slaps LinuxNIT, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 04:24.21 | Hermit2 | http://www.linux-drivers.org/ a list of compatability links |
| 04:25.48 | Hermit2 | thats a pretty good list |
| 04:27.22 | Hermit2 | yamaha may support OSS |
| 04:29.36 | roxville | nah |
| 04:29.46 | roxville | i have looked... |
| 04:29.58 | Hermit2 | bummer |
| 04:30.06 | roxville | i got an old pro card for free... but i can't use it... sucks |
| 04:30.29 | roxville | then again, it's so complicated that i can hardly use it in windows either :D |
| 04:31.05 | Hermit2 | oh gee... no wonder it was free |
| 04:31.21 | roxville | hehe |
| 04:31.59 | roxville | my brother-in-law has a computer shop... very renowned around here...and i have a buddy that works there |
| 04:32.29 | roxville | it is amazing how many ppl come in with pc's for repair...and then choose to buy a new one instead |
| 04:32.37 | Hermit2 | trade it for something that does work then |
| 04:33.04 | roxville | so they just leave the old one there |
| 04:33.11 | roxville | it's like x-mas every day! |
| 04:33.20 | Hermit2 | yup... oh boy |
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| 04:34.12 | Hermit2 | my hubby did that. got tired of fighting with windows and bought a new computer |
| 04:34.38 | Hermit2 | I took the old one wiped the HDD and installed linux for the kids |
| 04:35.41 | PrinceAMD | someone buzzed me? |
| 04:37.40 | roxville | not really... i was just commending you on your helping me with the coding :) |
| 04:37.59 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 04:41.49 | roxville | i was gonna say hi to THEoracle, but... he left again... |
| 04:49.53 | roxville | it sure is a relief to not have to use 4-5 different apps every single day to just scan for spyware and shit |
| 04:50.37 | revdjenk | you were finding WHAT on your computer roxville?? |
| 04:50.42 | revdjenk | hee hee |
| 04:50.53 | Hermit2 | ya, or deal with the program asking if this, that and the other thing can run or access the net |
| 04:51.40 | roxville | revdjenk, :) could you PM me and tell me what happened? |
| 04:51.55 | roxville | Hermit2, yep |
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| 05:11.56 | Hermit2 | http://www.tucows.com/whats/new/110 This is just sad. |
| 05:17.07 | roxville | LOL |
| 05:17.13 | roxville | tucows used to be my fav site when i had my imac |
| 05:20.51 | Hermit2 | good for windows too |
| 05:22.36 | roxville | :) |
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| 05:28.56 | LinuxNIT | night roxville |
| 05:29.05 | roxville | :) |
| 05:29.16 | LinuxNIT | gah roxville youre the 4th r on my tab complete |
| 05:29.32 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:30.00 | roxville | LOL |
| 05:56.07 | Hermit2 | night all |
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| 14:06.04 | dats | hi |
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| 14:10.25 | fachex | hey all! |
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| 14:47.20 | Elive_user27 | hello all |
| 14:47.28 | keyra | Elive_user27: hi |
| 14:48.07 | Elive_user27 | can someone help with a problem |
| 14:48.53 | Elive_user27 | iv upgraded to the new desktop but Xtrem dosent seem tobe working ? |
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| 15:06.15 | roxville | good morning/afternoon ppl :) |
| 15:06.41 | Elive_user27 | :) |
| 15:06.46 | Elive_user27 | afternoon rox |
| 15:08.05 | roxville | :) |
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| 15:21.50 | adamant1988 | Hello roxville! |
| 15:22.16 | roxville | hey adamant1988 :) |
| 15:24.01 | adamant1988 | How is life? |
| 15:24.07 | adamant1988 | was there just a net split or something? |
| 15:24.32 | roxville | nah, just some quitters :) |
| 15:25.18 | roxville | life is ok... my daughter has a pretty bad cold... so i'm doing everything i can to keep her happy |
| 15:25.30 | adamant1988 | Give her zinc :) |
| 15:25.31 | roxville | until i get tired of it, and log on instead :) |
| 15:25.45 | roxville | yeah, zinc is the king |
| 15:26.08 | adamant1988 | I think that's why I haven't gotten sick despite my hour long walk home in these temperatures |
| 15:26.30 | adamant1988 | I take a multi-vitamin daily that has zinc, iron, and all that other important stuff. |
| 15:26.38 | adamant1988 | It's a freaking horse-pill though, in size. |
| 15:27.50 | roxville | :) |
| 15:28.07 | roxville | adamant1988, you're a guy, shouldn't take iron over the age of 15 |
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| 15:30.00 | adamant1988 | Meh, there's not much in it |
| 15:30.12 | adamant1988 | it's in there though *shrug* |
| 15:30.46 | roxville | i'm serious... |
| 15:31.16 | roxville | there are others that are just as good...iron is for women...they NEED it... men don't |
| 15:31.35 | adamant1988 | I'll remember that and get something without then :) |
| 15:31.48 | roxville | the GNC store has a "man" section with multi vitamins without iron |
| 15:31.51 | adamant1988 | I asked which was best, pharmacy dude handed me that one |
| 15:32.08 | adamant1988 | *shrug* I think we all know not to trust them now. lol. |
| 15:32.18 | roxville | hehe |
| 15:32.36 | roxville | do some googling on iron and men |
| 15:32.40 | roxville | just for the kick |
| 15:32.53 | adamant1988 | haha |
| 15:33.36 | adamant1988 | I might after I finish migrating to Opera... |
| 15:33.41 | dats | hello |
| 15:33.44 | adamant1988 | I have to move my bookmarks one by one |
| 15:33.50 | keyra | dats: hi |
| 15:33.53 | adamant1988 | do you have any idea what a PITA this is? |
| 15:33.55 | dats | wich package provides autopoint |
| 15:33.59 | dats | wich package provides autopoint? |
| 15:34.13 | dats | provides/contain :S |
| 15:34.21 | dats | or have :S |
| 15:34.52 | roxville | adaz no you don't! |
| 15:35.04 | roxville | my opera imported all the bookmarks... |
| 15:35.09 | LinuxNIT | apt-get install apt-file apt-file update apt-file search autopoint |
| 15:35.10 | adamant1988 | Yeah, except for one problem |
| 15:35.25 | dats | LinuxNIT: i do it but i don't have anyfile |
| 15:35.32 | adamant1988 | I'm migrating from flock... and all of my bookmarks are stored in an extension.. not in the browser. |
| 15:36.40 | dats | sorry |
| 15:36.51 | dats | i'm donkey :( it's gettext, sorry |
| 15:37.16 | LinuxNIT | so you got it? |
| 15:37.39 | dats | no |
| 15:37.43 | dats | i install it now |
| 15:37.53 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 15:38.11 | dats | i think that i have it installed ... but it isn't installed :S |
| 15:38.25 | LinuxNIT | apt-cace policy gettext |
| 15:38.42 | dats | becouse i say that i'm donkey, sorry :) and a lot of thanks to LinuxNIT ;) |
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| 15:39.00 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 15:41.39 | adamant1988 | Roxville how can I set opera to masquerade as another browser? |
| 15:43.12 | roxville | adamant1988, http://ezinearticles.com/?Men-At-Risk-of-Iron-Toxicity-if-They-Supplement-After-WLS&id=49034 |
| 15:43.21 | roxville | http://www.menweb.org/alexiron.htm |
| 15:43.38 | roxville | adamant1988, i have no idea... i rarely use opera |
| 15:44.25 | LinuxNIT | adamant1988, last time i used(admitedly its been a while) it was in one of the drop down menus |
| 15:44.32 | adamant1988 | great thanks |
| 15:44.40 | adamant1988 | Roxville, I believed you before :P |
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| 15:47.24 | adamant1988 | Yeah, so you guys hear about Linspire switching to an Ubuntu base for their systems? |
| 15:47.37 | adamant1988 | system=distribution |
| 15:47.42 | adamant1988 | ugh, I need sleep |
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| 15:56.43 | adamant1988 | ok, well, I know how to get each individual site to masquerade as FF |
| 15:56.54 | adamant1988 | but I can't make it default behavior.. |
| 15:56.58 | adamant1988 | oh well. |
| 15:57.00 | adamant1988 | haha |
| 15:58.34 | roxville | :) |
| 15:58.38 | adamant1988 | Oh roxville |
| 15:59.21 | adamant1988 | I looked at the label on the bottle.. next time I should read the nutrition fact.. |
| 15:59.23 | roxville | ok, time to install 0.6.2... |
| 15:59.24 | roxville | adamant1988, why? |
| 15:59.24 | adamant1988 | it turns out that just because they put it on the label doesn't mean there's anything in it... "Iron 0mg 0% DV" |
| 15:59.25 | roxville | "for women"? |
| 15:59.42 | roxville | oh, ok |
| 15:59.52 | roxville | weird... |
| 15:59.56 | adamant1988 | So.. for some reason they felt compelled to include iron on the facts thing on the back.. even though there's none in it |
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| 16:00.34 | roxville | ok, good! |
| 16:00.35 | roxville | bbl |
| 16:00.35 | adamant1988 | I was wondering why a pharmacist of all people would have handed me something that would poison me... lol. |
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| 16:02.00 | LinuxNIT | looks like my sisters pc is about to kick the can :-/ |
| 16:02.44 | LinuxNIT | random reboots.... in both windows and linux... cant be good |
| 16:09.40 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, how much memory sticks she got inside? |
| 16:10.15 | LinuxNIT | i think its a 512 and a 256or128 im not sure |
| 16:10.29 | LinuxNIT | shes going to run a memtest in a few minutes and let it run till i get home |
| 16:11.58 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, had the problem with my pc it was the ddr or the ddr slot |
| 16:12.11 | PrinceAMD | only ddr0 works for me |
| 16:12.35 | PrinceAMD | if i put a ram in ddr1 , reboot not load for even FREEZE |
| 16:12.42 | LinuxNIT | well this ram has been in there for a few years and she just started having trouble in the last few weeks |
| 16:13.05 | LinuxNIT | oh nm i see what your saying |
| 16:14.42 | LinuxNIT | ill probably end up checking that as well... |
| 16:24.35 | fachex | hey guys!! |
| 16:24.35 | fachex | how are you all? |
| 16:24.46 | LinuxNIT | good and you? |
| 16:25.01 | fachex | good LinuxNIT ! |
| 16:25.05 | fachex | thanks |
| 16:25.19 | fachex | did anybody have elive with a wirless card as their internet gateway? |
| 16:25.43 | fachex | elive detects my card, but it won't connect to the internet |
| 16:26.12 | fachex | but using my laptop I did not even had to set up anything. |
| 16:26.36 | fachex | adivce? hint? clue? |
| 16:26.46 | fachex | advice |
| 16:26.47 | LinuxNIT | what computer is not working? |
| 16:26.52 | fachex | my p |
| 16:26.55 | fachex | pc |
| 16:26.59 | fachex | my laptop works great |
| 16:27.01 | LinuxNIT | wired connection? |
| 16:27.12 | fachex | no, wireless |
| 16:27.39 | LinuxNIT | iwconfig shows wirless extensions? |
| 16:27.50 | fachex | I have one pc and one laptop with wireless. Elive has no problem with my laptop, but with my pc, it detects the card, but not the network |
| 16:27.58 | keyra | fachex: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 16:28.06 | LinuxNIT | keyra, shutup |
| 16:28.14 | keyra | LinuxNIT: :-# |
| 16:28.18 | fachex | pkill -15 keyra! |
| 16:28.42 | LinuxNIT | fachex, does iwconfig show wirless extensions on the desktop? |
| 16:28.51 | fachex | let me check |
| 16:29.04 | fachex | I am in my wired computer, let me go to my wirless one :) |
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| 16:33.22 | fachex | LinuxNIT, I type that commmand and it doesn't recongnize it |
| 16:33.28 | LinuxNIT | as root |
| 16:33.31 | fachex | ok |
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| 16:34.17 | fachex | no wirless ext.. |
| 16:34.19 | fachex | :( |
| 16:34.35 | LinuxNIT | do you know what chipset it has? |
| 16:34.52 | fachex | no |
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| 16:35.00 | LinuxNIT | apparenty you are missing the module or the firmware |
| 16:35.01 | fachex | I bought because the seller says it works in linux |
| 16:35.07 | LinuxNIT | lspci |
| 16:35.14 | fachex | ok |
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| 16:35.22 | LinuxNIT | look for the line about wireless and paste just that line |
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| 16:36.10 | fachex | RaLink RT2561 |
| 16:36.44 | fachex | RaLink RT2561 /RT 61 |
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| 16:41.31 | LinuxNIT | modprobe -l | grep rt61 |
| 16:41.51 | fachex | ok |
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| 16:42.19 | fachex | what would that do? |
| 16:42.54 | LinuxNIT | no output? |
| 16:43.25 | fachex | still shows no extentions |
| 16:43.56 | LinuxNIT | looks like you need to install the drivers |
| 16:44.02 | LinuxNIT | search ralink in synaptic |
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| 16:44.10 | LinuxNIT | choose one for your kernel |
| 16:44.19 | fachex | ok |
| 16:44.29 | fachex | I'll do that@ |
| 16:44.37 | fachex | thanks LinuxNIT ! |
| 16:44.51 | LinuxNIT | your welcome |
| 16:44.59 | LinuxNIT | i gtg my battery is about to die |
| 16:45.02 | LinuxNIT | talk to yall latert |
| 16:45.11 | fachex | later dude! |
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| 16:54.51 | dats | oh :( |
| 16:54.58 | dats | eclair crashes |
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| 17:09.03 | wizard123 | bah :] |
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| 17:36.03 | Elive_user37 | so, anyone using beryl with dr17? |
| 17:37.43 | rab | has anyone else had trouble with the 2.6.18-elive kernel headers not matching the 2.6.18-elive kernel when compiling modules? |
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| 17:51.08 | wizard123 | Elive_user37: beryl? |
| 17:51.23 | wizard123 | beryl is a window manager and e17 is w window manager |
| 17:51.32 | wizard123 | so.. you can run only one at once |
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| 18:03.08 | adamant1988 | Yay, I've finally managed to move most of my bluemarks to Opera.. |
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| 18:14.09 | BertraM | Hi everyone! |
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| 20:11.48 | macho_nacho | hi fachex how are you doing? |
| 20:13.56 | macho_nacho | apt, keyra |
| 20:14.27 | macho_nacho | apt, hi |
| 20:14.29 | apt | hello, macho_nacho |
| 20:14.37 | keyra | apt: hi |
| 20:14.39 | apt | hello, keyra |
| 20:14.39 | macho_nacho | ok, i AM here :) |
| 20:14.48 | keyra | apt: hi |
| 20:14.49 | apt | hello, keyra |
| 20:14.54 | macho_nacho | hi keyra how are you? |
| 20:15.02 | keyra | macho_nacho: hi :) |
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| 20:27.37 | bouba_ | thanatermesis ping :D |
| 20:27.58 | Thanatermesis | bouba_, pong |
| 20:28.11 | bouba_ | :( another problem with elive 0.6.2 |
| 20:28.27 | bouba_ | removed the ntfs.ko |
| 20:28.33 | bouba_ | installed elive |
| 20:28.35 | keyra | bouba_: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by gates for fuck the linux users ? is specially made closed and in a way totally incompatible with all and all standards, don't use it, you lost your time ! (and you data lol) |
| 20:28.35 | Thanatermesis | lol macho_nacho, what are doing those bots ? |
| 20:28.43 | macho_nacho | hehe |
| 20:28.56 | macho_nacho | just being polite... very nice |
| 20:28.57 | Thanatermesis | apt, hi |
| 20:28.58 | apt | hello, thanatermesis |
| 20:29.05 | macho_nacho | i hate it when they start fighting in here :) |
| 20:29.07 | keyra | apt: hi |
| 20:29.08 | apt | hello, keyra |
| 20:29.11 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 20:29.14 | bouba_ | rebooted and now is stallen @ NTFS volume version 3.1 |
| 20:29.17 | keyra | apt: hi |
| 20:29.18 | apt | hello, keyra |
| 20:29.33 | Thanatermesis | bouba_, more windows crap! |
| 20:29.36 | bouba_ | stalled |
| 20:29.37 | Thanatermesis | remove* |
| 20:29.47 | rab | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.54 | bouba_ | remove what?:D |
| 20:30.04 | Thanatermesis | bouba_, entre from the liveCD on your system, remove the ntfs.ko of it, reboot in normal system |
| 20:30.08 | Thanatermesis | bouba_, windows :) |
| 20:31.02 | bouba_ | i removed this file and then wrote init 2 |
| 20:31.10 | bouba_ | wrong? |
| 20:31.29 | Thanatermesis | rab, ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-elive /usr/src/linux |
| 20:31.31 | Thanatermesis | rab, ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-elive /usr/src/linux-2.6 |
| 20:31.55 | Thanatermesis | bouba_, no... from the liveCD (for boot), remove the one of YOUR installed system, then reboot |
| 20:32.39 | bouba_ | ah |
| 20:32.59 | bouba_ | ok |
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| 20:33.23 | bouba_ | i will try:P |
| 20:33.35 | rab | tried that, still nogo, maybe problem is my install... |
| 20:35.31 | Thanatermesis | rab, sometimes "just the headers" not are sufficient... better to build your own kernel :) |
| 20:35.46 | Thanatermesis | rab, what driver you need ? |
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| 20:36.41 | rab | I was hoping to avoid that, but looks like it, trying to compile vmware modules after upgrading my kernel. |
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| 20:37.09 | Thanatermesis | rab, do you know qemu ? |
| 20:37.51 | rab | just going to try it, does it work ok with vmdk images? |
| 20:38.02 | Thanatermesis | mmh, in some part |
| 20:38.10 | Thanatermesis | you can "convert" a vmdk image to a qemu one |
| 20:38.22 | rab | which parts? :-) |
| 20:38.28 | Thanatermesis | qemu is very good, and sometimes better than vmware :) |
| 20:38.38 | Thanatermesis | on my new machine, qemu works really better than vmware |
| 20:38.50 | Thanatermesis | and don't make my machine to LAG like when i run vmware |
| 20:39.05 | Thanatermesis | install kqemu module if you don't have it, is the kernel accelerator for qemu (included on elive) |
| 20:39.11 | Thanatermesis | modprobe kqemu, see if you have it |
| 20:40.07 | rab | agreed, I have kqemu installed, do I need to use qemu-img thing to convert my vmdk first? |
| 20:40.22 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 20:40.46 | rab | ok, thx |
| 20:41.35 | Thanatermesis | or you can use it directly, not sure... try it :) |
| 20:41.41 | Thanatermesis | always make a copy of that imag |
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| 21:44.33 | vodka_rosarry | hello |
| 21:44.41 | keyra | vodka_rosarry: hi |
| 21:45.10 | vodka_rosarry | cheers |
| 21:45.25 | vodka_rosarry | keyra |
| 21:46.14 | vodka_rosarry | keyra how do you do |
| 21:50.30 | vodka_rosarry | Elive can't recognize audio disks :( |
| 21:54.09 | vodka_rosarry | this is my problem |
| 21:58.40 | Thanatermesis | vodka_rosarry, aparently only recognizes original CDs |
| 22:03.04 | vodka_rosarry | Thanatermesis (hello) I used original CD with children songs buyed by bookstore, with pictures, |
| 22:03.12 | keyra | vodka_rosarry: hi |
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| 22:03.50 | vodka_rosarry | keyra hi |
| 22:03.58 | keyra | vodka_rosarry: hi :) |
| 22:04.27 | Thanatermesis | mmh, i don't understand why some audio cd's are autodetected and other no... |
| 22:04.32 | Thanatermesis | not sure if is a problem of hal of ivman |
| 22:05.18 | bouba_ | thanatermesis, finally my elive works :D eheheh |
| 22:05.34 | vodka_rosarry | vodka:rosarry 50:50 (1:1) is the formula named "japan morning" |
| 22:05.59 | Thanatermesis | nice bouba_ :) |
| 22:06.22 | vodka_rosarry | best coctail for "piano bars" |
| 22:06.57 | vodka_rosarry | I FORGOT SOME LEMON |
| 22:07.56 | vodka_rosarry | Thanatermesis hello ... |
| 22:08.06 | vodka_rosarry | cheers |
| 22:08.21 | Thanatermesis | hello vodka_rosarry |
| 22:08.34 | Thanatermesis | im looking things, and bug reports to ivman...but i don't found anything |
| 22:09.56 | bouba_ | thanatermesis, one thing: if i update e17 trought the test repo, i will lost all icon from menu and ibar? thanks |
| 22:10.27 | Thanatermesis | mmh, yes |
| 22:11.10 | bouba_ | doh |
| 22:13.10 | vodka_rosarry | Thanatermesis JUST RELAX - HAVE NICE MISIC AND NICE DRINK |
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| 22:59.04 | keyra | THEoracle: hi |
| 23:03.47 | Thanatermesis | anybody with ntfs ? |
| 23:03.55 | keyra | Thanatermesis: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by gates for fuck the linux users ? is specially made closed and in a way totally incompatible with all and all standards, don't use it, you lost your time ! (and you data lol) |
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| 23:08.29 | adamant1988 | hello all |
| 23:08.37 | keyra | adamant1988: hi |
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