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| 00:01.04 | LinuxNIT | wizard123, that reminds me of the metisse wm |
| 00:01.11 | LinuxNIT | mandriva has a livecd demo of it |
| 00:02.16 | LinuxNIT | well part of it anyway |
| 00:09.23 | GPLGeek | wizard123, ya it looked a lot like that, fast!!! |
| 00:09.32 | GPLGeek | very very very quick |
| 00:10.10 | GPLGeek | although it had another start bar and some desktop appletts |
| 00:11.23 | wizard123 | hmm... |
| 00:11.41 | wizard123 | i'm browsing gnusolaris.org.. seems to be very interesting project.. |
| 00:11.56 | wizard123 | and i it does not use linux :D |
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| 00:14.49 | GPLGeek | speaking of window managers |
| 00:15.03 | GPLGeek | there is a project that aims to move window managment to to graphics card and an addon card |
| 00:15.20 | wizard123 | o_O |
| 00:15.28 | wizard123 | hardware window manager? |
| 00:15.43 | GPLGeek | for nvidia or ati it would work on every system, eedwin eedx (extreme eyecandy desktop windows, and X) also would work on mac |
| 00:16.00 | wizard123 | hmm |
| 00:16.13 | GPLGeek | when you play a game it caches your window manager and saves it to disk, unloading it from all memory, so the game can take full screen and be the only thing running |
| 00:16.24 | GPLGeek | it would take over every window manager |
| 00:16.37 | GPLGeek | its a LOT like E17 |
| 00:16.42 | GPLGeek | look and feel |
| 00:16.51 | GPLGeek | it's just in drafts but they have concept art and model |
| 00:18.04 | GPLGeek | also nvidia and ati both want to get rid of os-specific libraries and promote SDL and start offering "fast shaders for game developers" so they can easily develop for all platforms |
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| 00:25.47 | wizard123 | :/ |
| 00:26.21 | Elive_user31 | hi wizard123 |
| 00:27.23 | wizard123 | hi Elive_user31 |
| 00:27.35 | wizard123 | welcome to #elive |
| 00:27.42 | wizard123 | what brings you here? |
| 00:27.47 | Elive_user31 | Thanks wizard. |
| 00:28.48 | Elive_user31 | I just downloaded the elive iso tonight... I've been really curious about it since learning that engage is an enlightenment thing |
| 00:29.09 | Elive_user31 | I'm extremely impressed |
| 00:29.13 | GPLGeek | ! |
| 00:29.26 | GPLGeek | what version did you download? |
| 00:29.33 | GPLGeek | .6.3 I hope. |
| 00:29.57 | Elive_user31 | no... 6.0 revolution... via distrowatch. |
| 00:30.05 | GPLGeek | ahh 'stable' thats ok too |
| 00:30.11 | wizard123 | :] |
| 00:30.15 | Elive_user31 | The 6.3 dl didn't work for me today |
| 00:30.32 | GPLGeek | I have a direct download and a torrent for you , what one do you want? |
| 00:31.04 | Elive_user31 | Tried twice... called finished at a bit over 200 mb first try, 93 mb second. |
| 00:31.25 | GPLGeek | server must have been syncing |
| 00:31.35 | GPLGeek | I have a verified to work copy |
| 00:31.36 | Elive_user31 | direct would be better for now. |
| 00:31.52 | Elive_user31 | I'm on the live cd at the moment |
| 00:32.27 | GPLGeek | http://elivedev.org/elive/isos/development/elive_0.6.3_unstable.iso |
| 00:32.30 | wizard123 | hmm.. are you new to linux? |
| 00:32.42 | Elive_user31 | I've not had a prob with distrowatch dls before but the elive dl was broken today |
| 00:33.13 | GPLGeek | Elive is a good place to start, even though we are a cutting edge testing distro many people find our implimentation really friendly |
| 00:33.32 | Elive_user31 | actually no... I've been windows free for over a year now. |
| 00:34.32 | Elive_user31 | my permanent install on my main box is ubuntu but I love lite distros. This is an old p2 server I picked up at the local thrift. |
| 00:34.40 | keyra | Elive_user31: Ubuntu is OFF topic |
| 00:35.03 | Elive_user31 | It has puppy installed now but I think elive will replace it. May replace ubuntu too! ;) |
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| 00:35.45 | wizard123 | keyra: shut up |
| 00:35.53 | keyra | wizard123: :-# |
| 00:36.03 | Elive_user31 | pardon? |
| 00:36.13 | wizard123 | i hate this bot :] |
| 00:36.25 | wizard123 | Elive_user31: good to hear it |
| 00:36.34 | Elive_user31 | oh... keyra is a bot? |
| 00:36.43 | keyra | Elive_user31: you think it ? |
| 00:36.58 | wizard123 | i've been using elive and other unices for 6 years.. now i have elive :] |
| 00:37.42 | GPLGeek | well elive only been around just over 2 years |
| 00:37.48 | Elive_user31 | I love linux... been windows free since 2005 |
| 00:38.41 | GPLGeek | I've been using linux since the 90s, I'm a cross platform developer. ReactOS is leet NT implementation and is almost a working nt replacment |
| 00:38.42 | Elive_user31 | I'm not used to xchat... does red text and harps playing mean PM? |
| 00:38.45 | GPLGeek | for most programs |
| 00:39.10 | GPLGeek | red text by default is alert, like somone says your name, or directs it at you in some way |
| 00:39.10 | Elive_user31 | I always use gaim for irc |
| 00:39.20 | Elive_user31 | oh... ok |
| 00:39.54 | Elive_user31 | I though either I was being PMed or yelled at for getting off topic with ubuntu. |
| 00:39.57 | Elive_user31 | LOL |
| 00:40.03 | keyra | Elive_user31: Ubuntu is OFF topic |
| 00:40.10 | wizard123 | lol |
| 00:40.25 | Elive_user31 | I've learned a lot of people in the nix universe dislike ubuntu |
| 00:40.32 | *** join/#elive damosu (n=damosu@unaffiliated/damosu) |
| 00:40.42 | GPLGeek | why dont you choose a name for yourself and /nick namegoeshere and then msg nickserv help to figure out how to register! |
| 00:40.46 | wizard123 | Elive_user31: true :] |
| 00:40.50 | GPLGeek | and then come back to this channel and hang out with us |
| 00:40.57 | *** join/#elive mefistofeles (n=ivan@unaffiliated/mefistofeles) |
| 00:41.01 | Elive_user31 | hey... I was a mac girl for years until my (now ex) husband swayed me to the datk side. |
| 00:41.06 | wizard123 | like mefistofeles did :] |
| 00:41.06 | GPLGeek | Elive_user31, i can give you examples of why |
| 00:41.10 | Elive_user31 | I've always hated windows |
| 00:41.27 | mefistofeles | wizard123: lol..what? |
| 00:41.36 | Aviatrixie | there |
| 00:41.39 | wizard123 | you returned.. |
| 00:41.48 | GPLGeek | sweet, a name |
| 00:41.50 | Aviatrixie | that's the nick I've used for many years in chats |
| 00:41.50 | wizard123 | and GPLGeek suggested the same for Aviatrixie |
| 00:41.59 | wizard123 | :] |
| 00:42.13 | mefistofeles | I see |
| 00:42.25 | Aviatrixie | Well... I'm on the live cd and clicked chat and it dropped me in here and gave me that 31 name |
| 00:42.30 | mefistofeles | I was wondering... elive uses it's own kernel or the debian one? |
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| 00:42.49 | Aviatrixie | brb |
| 00:43.10 | GPLGeek | elive uses a custom kernel, but it has the debian patches |
| 00:43.26 | wizard123 | that is good idea, imho.. |
| 00:43.29 | GPLGeek | often times we have new kernels people can test out |
| 00:43.32 | mefistofeles | I see... whats the main difference? If you can explain that to me :P |
| 00:43.37 | wizard123 | Thana could also look on gentoo patches.. |
| 00:43.52 | GPLGeek | as a live cd we need to build it to work with everything, and to work on older or new systems |
| 00:43.58 | GPLGeek | you can throw elive on a 486 and run it |
| 00:44.01 | wizard123 | GPLGeek: custom = build by thana in his manner |
| 00:44.02 | mefistofeles | yeah..thought so |
| 00:44.06 | GPLGeek | somone in this room right now is on a 486 |
| 00:44.17 | GPLGeek | however many high powered new computers run it too |
| 00:44.21 | GPLGeek | with great speed |
| 00:44.24 | mefistofeles | GPLGeek: and how elive's behave as an installed os? |
| 00:44.37 | GPLGeek | better than as a live cd |
| 00:44.40 | mefistofeles | (bad english..sorry) :P |
| 00:44.44 | GPLGeek | as an installed os you can save stuff! |
| 00:44.45 | mefistofeles | GPLGeek: really?...nice |
| 00:44.50 | mefistofeles | lol |
| 00:44.52 | GPLGeek | what native language? |
| 00:44.57 | mefistofeles | spanish |
| 00:45.02 | Aviatrixie | This is a beautiful distro |
| 00:45.03 | GPLGeek | Bueno! |
| 00:45.23 | mefistofeles | yeah... but take knopix for example..I've heard it got some problems when installed |
| 00:45.28 | mefistofeles | knoppix* |
| 00:45.37 | Aviatrixie | hola mefistofeles... como esta? |
| 00:45.38 | GPLGeek | Hay muchos personas de espanol =p |
| 00:45.45 | keyra | Aviatrixie: que tal ? |
| 00:45.50 | wizard123 | mefistofeles: elives purpose is to be installed on hard drive |
| 00:45.52 | mefistofeles | and to that the knopper guy agreed |
| 00:46.09 | mefistofeles | wizard123: ok... thats good :P |
| 00:46.15 | mefistofeles | since knopix is more recovery oriented |
| 00:46.17 | mefistofeles | Aviatrixie: hola ;) |
| 00:46.17 | wizard123 | livecd is just a 'demo' of abilities |
| 00:46.38 | mefistofeles | yeah...I wonder if zsnes is still on elive.. :P |
| 00:46.48 | Aviatrixie | I spoke spanish as a very young girl but moved form the mexican border when I was 7... I've lost most of it. :( |
| 00:46.49 | GPLGeek | Elive is debian etch with e17, in live mode it has debased scripts from dsslive-etch and elive-skel as its backbone for config. |
| 00:46.57 | keyra | GPLGeek: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Elive-skel_System |
| 00:47.07 | Aviatrixie | It is a lovely language tho |
| 00:47.12 | GPLGeek | the installed system is just a debian etch, with e17, elpanel, and all the other cool stuff. |
| 00:47.25 | mefistofeles | Aviatrixie: heh... yeah |
| 00:47.42 | mefistofeles | GPLGeek: yeah... I actually am on deb etch :P |
| 00:47.45 | GPLGeek | It's hard to learn spanish when you have only been tought one language your whole life |
| 00:47.59 | GPLGeek | I wish we would teach kids more than one language in schools at a early stage |
| 00:48.03 | mefistofeles | yeah..spanish is hard to learn and remember |
| 00:48.14 | Aviatrixie | GPLGeek... I grew up bilingual ;) |
| 00:48.51 | GPLGeek | voy a ensenar espanol.... pero necisito hablar con amigos :) |
| 00:48.59 | Aviatrixie | Anyway... I'm sort of a geekette... tho I don't code, I love puters. |
| 00:49.13 | GPLGeek | so the sooner the better |
| 00:49.14 | mefistofeles | what are puters? :P |
| 00:49.16 | wizard123 | hmm GPLGeek not true |
| 00:49.37 | GPLGeek | what's not true |
| 00:49.38 | wizard123 | i've started to learn english 6 years ago.. |
| 00:49.55 | wizard123 | and it is totally different than my language :] |
| 00:50.02 | Aviatrixie | I loved how cool dreamlinux was but I'm enraptured with elive. This is an amazing distro... and it runs really well well on this old server. It will scream on my main pc! |
| 00:50.27 | wizard123 | :] |
| 00:50.42 | mefistofeles | wizard123: kids could learn language in 4 years :P |
| 00:50.50 | mefistofeles | *a language |
| 00:50.55 | GPLGeek | my point exactly |
| 00:51.02 | GPLGeek | growing up they do most of the association |
| 00:51.04 | wizard123 | yeah.. |
| 00:51.09 | Aviatrixie | is anyone here in the usa? |
| 00:51.10 | GPLGeek | it comes natural |
| 00:51.15 | mefistofeles | and plenty of other things why they learn a language |
| 00:51.18 | wizard123 | i know.. but i wassnt a kid |
| 00:51.19 | GPLGeek | Soy de California |
| 00:51.22 | mefistofeles | while* |
| 00:51.43 | Aviatrixie | a left coaster, hmm? hi GPLGeek |
| 00:51.44 | GPLGeek | Aviatrixie, we got people from all over, im in the US, Bay Area California |
| 00:51.46 | Aviatrixie | :) |
| 00:52.15 | mefistofeles | where do you think Im from? :P |
| 00:52.16 | Aviatrixie | GPLGeek... I'm sure. That's what I love about Linux... it's so.... global! |
| 00:52.33 | GPLGeek | mefistofeles, probably the north pole |
| 00:52.39 | mefistofeles | lol |
| 00:52.40 | GPLGeek | or africa |
| 00:52.42 | wizard123 | ivan@... russia? |
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| 00:52.56 | mefistofeles | hehe |
| 00:53.03 | mefistofeles | nah...Im from Colombia |
| 00:53.07 | wizard123 | lol |
| 00:53.14 | wizard123 | i wasn't very close.. |
| 00:53.22 | mefistofeles | not at all :P |
| 00:53.22 | Elive_user96 | im from mexico |
| 00:53.22 | Aviatrixie | I'm on an island in a river in southwest PA, USA, Earth, Solar System, Mily Way, Universe |
| 00:53.25 | wizard123 | and guesing my location is not hard :| |
| 00:53.26 | Elive_user96 | ajuaa |
| 00:53.49 | Aviatrixie | oops... milky Way too |
| 00:53.54 | mefistofeles | ok wizard123 |
| 00:53.57 | mefistofeles | poland? |
| 00:53.59 | mefistofeles | :P |
| 00:54.02 | wizard123 | damn.. |
| 00:54.13 | mefistofeles | pretty easy haha |
| 00:54.16 | Aviatrixie | wizard.... ummmm... Hotel California? |
| 00:54.16 | wizard123 | how did you find it :P ? |
| 00:54.29 | mefistofeles | wizard123: I have my skills :D |
| 00:54.34 | mefistofeles | lol...just did a whois |
| 00:54.35 | wizard123 | hehe |
| 00:54.58 | wizard123 | default actions.. whois, ripe.net.. traceroute ;) |
| 00:55.06 | GPLGeek | I need to go cook now |
| 00:55.11 | GPLGeek | im making stew tonight |
| 00:55.30 | mefistofeles | sounds bad :S |
| 00:55.31 | Aviatrixie | I'm making stuffed pepper |
| 00:55.33 | mefistofeles | lol |
| 00:55.44 | GPLGeek | I cook better than I code |
| 00:55.48 | mefistofeles | 95% elive :P |
| 00:55.53 | wizard123 | hmm... i'm thinking about going to bed.. |
| 00:55.54 | GPLGeek | my friends call me the gormet chef |
| 00:56.11 | Aviatrixie | so do I... but I don't code, so that's not saying much |
| 00:56.17 | mefistofeles | wizard123: must be really early in the morning there |
| 00:56.20 | GPLGeek | wizard123, sleep is for losers =p |
| 00:56.26 | mefistofeles | lol |
| 00:56.45 | mefistofeles | I code bettern than I cook |
| 00:56.49 | Aviatrixie | GPLGeek... what part of CA? My brother is in LA. |
| 00:57.02 | mefistofeles | and my coding is really bad... :P |
| 00:57.32 | wizard123 | mefistofeles: 2am |
| 00:57.48 | mefistofeles | wizard123: ahh thats not bed time :P |
| 00:57.56 | wizard123 | yeah.. |
| 00:58.06 | wizard123 | i'll stick with you up to 3 |
| 00:58.26 | wizard123 | or saty ? |
| 00:58.31 | wizard123 | stay* ? |
| 00:58.33 | wizard123 | i don't know |
| 00:58.43 | wizard123 | how should i say it? |
| 00:59.49 | mefistofeles | I think both would work |
| 00:59.55 | Aviatrixie | it's 8PM on my little island in Pennsylvania |
| 01:00.37 | wizard123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.39 | wizard123 | ;) |
| 01:00.42 | mefistofeles | ah... 8pm here as well |
| 01:00.57 | mefistofeles | wizard123: my mobo's clock isnt working :P |
| 01:01.02 | Aviatrixie | I noticed... elive doesn't have a clock on the desktop. I think this is the first os I ever saw without a clock on the desktop. |
| 01:01.03 | wizard123 | lol |
| 01:01.15 | mefistofeles | I need to configure ntpdate... but im too lazy |
| 01:01.35 | wizard123 | Aviatrixie: you can add it in e17 settings |
| 01:01.52 | Aviatrixie | I think I'm using e16 |
| 01:02.09 | mefistofeles | well there are plenty of window manaagers that dont have a clock |
| 01:02.16 | wizard123 | hmmm.. you can install epplets |
| 01:02.51 | Aviatrixie | I used the default. This is the v6.0 Revolution live cd. |
| 01:03.40 | wizard123 | hmm.. check in process list |
| 01:04.00 | wizard123 | open terminal and do: ps ax | grep e16 |
| 01:04.11 | Aviatrixie | mefistofeles... now that you mention it... fluxbox doesn't have a clock unless you use that thingy DSL uses. |
| 01:04.16 | wizard123 | and later ps ax | grep enlightenment :] |
| 01:04.40 | wizard123 | fluxbox has clock on bar |
| 01:04.42 | wizard123 | :| |
| 01:04.47 | mefistofeles | Aviatrixie: mine has a clock :P... but yeah..I've seen som fluxbox without it |
| 01:04.52 | mefistofeles | some* |
| 01:05.06 | mefistofeles | wizard123: yeah..but it's optional |
| 01:05.25 | wizard123 | in default fluxbox settings clock is visible |
| 01:05.36 | mefistofeles | that I dont know |
| 01:05.42 | mefistofeles | :P but I guess so ..yes |
| 01:06.01 | mefistofeles | but for example pekwm or ratpoison doesnt use clock |
| 01:06.05 | Aviatrixie | It seems like everyone uses Gnome, KDE, or XFCE. I love Puppy and it's JWM but it its sooooo Win 95. |
| 01:06.30 | mefistofeles | Aviatrixie: hehe... I like fluxbox and I hope I like Enlightenment now :P |
| 01:06.49 | mefistofeles | what I do like about E is the way you can pass through virtual desktops |
| 01:07.02 | wizard123 | i use kde :| |
| 01:07.03 | mefistofeles | that really cool... fvwm also have that... as default |
| 01:07.16 | Aviatrixie | I fell in love with Dreamlinux 2.2 ME but couldn't figure out how they did that well fed python thing with the desktop. |
| 01:08.10 | Aviatrixie | A bit of research and I learned that it was Engage... from Enlightenment. That led me to Elive... and eventually to this chat. |
| 01:08.37 | wizard123 | long way :] |
| 01:08.42 | mefistofeles | hehe nice |
| 01:09.21 | Aviatrixie | Hey... I'm in love with everything about Linux. It all makes so much sense. |
| 01:09.31 | wizard123 | :] |
| 01:09.38 | mefistofeles | :P |
| 01:09.40 | wizard123 | geekette |
| 01:09.59 | wizard123 | first female geek on this chanel :] |
| 01:10.11 | mefistofeles | yeah... 100% elive iso :D |
| 01:10.28 | Aviatrixie | I do know if we don't all stand our ground M$ will own everyone... and the internet. |
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| 01:11.11 | wizard123 | Aviatrixie: that's why i'm spreading opensource in every way i can |
| 01:11.35 | wizard123 | not only linux of course :] |
| 01:11.37 | Aviatrixie | My exhusband is a major geek... worked at a major IT. |
| 01:11.39 | mefistofeles | yeah.. well gtg instll elive :P bye |
| 01:12.13 | wizard123 | heh, bye mefistofeles |
| 01:12.15 | hermit2 | she's not the first :) |
| 01:12.22 | wizard123 | hmm.. |
| 01:12.39 | Aviatrixie | sweet dreams mefistofeles |
| 01:12.55 | mefistofeles | be back later..maybe |
| 01:13.06 | wizard123 | hits* |
| 01:14.21 | Aviatrixie | so... does acidrip work well in elive? |
| 01:14.21 | wizard123 | Aviatrixie: do you work in it too ? |
| 01:14.33 | wizard123 | if it is linux app, yes |
| 01:14.52 | Aviatrixie | no wizard... I fly jets for a living. |
| 01:15.07 | wizard123 | eee... |
| 01:15.59 | wizard123 | ah :) |
| 01:16.03 | wizard123 | cool job :D |
| 01:16.26 | Aviatrixie | cool job until we all run out of oil |
| 01:16.42 | Aviatrixie | then we can turn all the jets into diners |
| 01:16.43 | wizard123 | i haven't even flow in a plane :] |
| 01:17.21 | wizard123 | i spend whole my life in my freaky country.. dreaming about going far away from here :] |
| 01:17.32 | Aviatrixie | jets are very cool... but old technology. Helz... we flew to the moon in 69. |
| 01:17.40 | keyra | Aviatrixie: bee ]:) |
| 01:17.54 | Aviatrixie | Puters are the cutting edge now. |
| 01:18.19 | *** join/#elive Elive_user8 (n=Elive_us@user-0c93hal.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 01:18.27 | wizard123 | :] |
| 01:18.33 | Aviatrixie | hi elive user 8 |
| 01:18.40 | wizard123 | shit, my brother started sneezing.. |
| 01:18.47 | wizard123 | hi Elive_user8 |
| 01:18.59 | Aviatrixie | the default usernames pop in and out so fast |
| 01:19.41 | wizard123 | yeah.. people just want to know 'what does that pretty icon do' and when they realise what does it do, they close it |
| 01:19.41 | Aviatrixie | Prolly to nervouse to say hello |
| 01:19.50 | keyra | Aviatrixie: hi |
| 01:19.55 | wizard123 | lol |
| 01:20.06 | Aviatrixie | hi keyra |
| 01:20.15 | keyra | Aviatrixie: hi :) |
| 01:20.41 | wizard123 | keyra: bot! |
| 01:20.43 | Aviatrixie | Keyra: or should I say "hi"? |
| 01:20.49 | keyra | wizard123: bot |
| 01:21.18 | wizard123 | :|| |
| 01:22.32 | Aviatrixie | something goofy about how clicking xchat dumps you... you get dumped into #elivefun but all the chat seems to be in #elive |
| 01:22.49 | wizard123 | maybe they are linked |
| 01:22.52 | Aviatrixie | brb |
| 01:24.40 | wizard123 | kretu: www.gnusolaris.org |
| 01:24.47 | wizard123 | chyba sobie to zainstaluje :] |
| 01:27.38 | Aviatrixie | ok... bak |
| 01:28.50 | Aviatrixie | ok... ok... don't everyone go crazy at my return now, please! ;) |
| 01:29.59 | wizard123 | :] |
| 01:30.21 | wizard123 | i'm addicted |
| 01:30.37 | Aviatrixie | I hope you brought some cookies with that moo juice |
| 01:30.45 | keyra | Aviatrixie: bee ]:) |
| 01:30.59 | wizard123 | no, i don't have cookies |
| 01:31.19 | Aviatrixie | I love milk.... but it's sooooo damn fattening!!! grrrr |
| 01:31.20 | wizard123 | i'm visiting my family, i ate all cookies 4 hour ago :P |
| 01:31.28 | wizard123 | fattening? |
| 01:31.44 | Aviatrixie | LOL@wizard... youate all the cookies?!!! |
| 01:31.49 | Aviatrixie | shame on you |
| 01:32.06 | wizard123 | oh no.. what did i do? |
| 01:32.21 | wizard123 | what have i done? rather |
| 01:32.30 | Aviatrixie | wizard123: you are in poland? |
| 01:32.33 | wizard123 | yes |
| 01:32.43 | Aviatrixie | kewl |
| 01:32.52 | wizard123 | :] |
| 01:32.58 | wizard123 | why is it kewl? |
| 01:33.00 | Aviatrixie | I had a boyfriend in the 70's from poland |
| 01:33.15 | wizard123 | hehe |
| 01:33.27 | Aviatrixie | His last name was Ladzinski |
| 01:33.47 | Aviatrixie | really sweet guy |
| 01:33.47 | wizard123 | what was he doing in usa? |
| 01:34.22 | Aviatrixie | He was an A&P... and airplane mechanic. |
| 01:34.33 | Aviatrixie | He worked on my airplanes |
| 01:34.39 | wizard123 | :] |
| 01:34.46 | wizard123 | funny story |
| 01:34.50 | Aviatrixie | Also a musician. |
| 01:35.24 | wizard123 | hehe.. hidden talent :D |
| 01:35.29 | Aviatrixie | I've always been attracted to musicians |
| 01:36.02 | wizard123 | why? (if i can know that) |
| 01:37.15 | wizard123 | i wish all womens would.. |
| 01:37.36 | Aviatrixie | We used to run a recording studio. It was mostly reel to reel analog with some digital mixed in. Apple used to rule that arena but like everything else M$ is taking over. |
| 01:38.39 | Aviatrixie | It just breaks my heart to see M$ take over the artistic side of putering as well |
| 01:39.06 | wizard123 | soon microsoft will be everywhere.. |
| 01:39.32 | wizard123 | i've heared that they made a deal with some car company |
| 01:39.39 | wizard123 | i don't remember which.. |
| 01:39.55 | Aviatrixie | So I'm rooting for Ardour, Dyne : bolic, Musix, and anyone else willing to pour the blood sweat and tears into keeping creativity free. |
| 01:41.07 | Aviatrixie | I guess that's why I'm attracted to Elive... it's a very artistic distribution. |
| 01:41.21 | Aviatrixie | And it comes with non-frees that should be free. |
| 01:41.39 | wizard123 | hmm.. elive lacks some good guitar tuner :P |
| 01:41.56 | Aviatrixie | Dyne : bolic has that |
| 01:42.18 | wizard123 | really? too bad that i don' have my notebook here.. |
| 01:42.34 | wizard123 | i also don't have my guitar : |
| 01:43.49 | wizard123 | ok, i'm going to sleep, bye |
| 01:44.01 | Aviatrixie | download Dyne : bolic as it's a reallt good mulimedia distro that runs well as a live CD. Even has a low latency kernel which is important when you are trying to record 32 tracks with multiple plug-ins. |
| 01:44.01 | wizard123 | i hope you'll stay with elive |
| 01:44.09 | keyra | Aviatrixie: the kernel of Revolution not has a low latency, but this is planned for the next stable (you can found it since the 0.5.6 dev. versions), low latency, 1000 hz, ck patches, and very optimized for desktop use and realtime apps, audio stuff bla bla |
| 01:44.18 | Aviatrixie | sweet dreams wizard123 |
| 01:44.21 | wizard123 | thanks |
| 01:45.53 | Aviatrixie | keyra... sounds like Elive is working hard to be the linux of my dreams |
| 01:46.55 | Aviatrixie | I didn't mention it before but I'm a musician too. |
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| 01:51.27 | mefistofeles | :P |
| 01:51.30 | GPLGeek | omg, stew on the stove smells great already |
| 01:51.36 | Aviatrixie | keyra... are you by any chance Thanatermesis ? |
| 01:51.59 | mefistofeles | hey what's the Elitaire for? |
| 01:52.13 | GPLGeek | keyra is a dumb bot |
| 01:52.14 | hermit2 | to play solitaire while you wait |
| 01:52.18 | mefistofeles | LOL |
| 01:52.21 | keyra | GPLGeek: you think it ? |
| 01:52.23 | mefistofeles | thats good heh |
| 01:52.28 | Aviatrixie | My oven just dinged... guess my stuffed peppers are done |
| 01:52.38 | mefistofeles | even though I think it's not working here..let me check again |
| 01:52.42 | GPLGeek | =p |
| 01:52.53 | mefistofeles | ah It does work :P |
| 01:53.13 | Aviatrixie | I thought you told me keyra wasn't a bot! |
| 01:53.21 | keyra | Aviatrixie: me ? |
| 01:53.32 | Aviatrixie | well... I'm losing track |
| 01:54.03 | mefistofeles | ok... now I have to update my menu.lst and then I'll be on my installed elive :P |
| 01:54.10 | Aviatrixie | keyra... yes... you |
| 01:54.18 | keyra | Aviatrixie: :) |
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| 01:55.06 | Aviatrixie | hi Elive_user8 |
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| 01:55.36 | Aviatrixie | hi andy_ |
| 01:57.26 | Aviatrixie | mefistofeles: I tend to throw away distros that don't work right off the bat. Too many do any more to be worth the trouble to fuss with one that doesn't. ;) |
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| 01:58.02 | mefistofeles | Aviatrixie, heh I dont know if it works since I have to update grub first |
| 01:58.20 | mefistofeles | that menu.lst is from a debian sid install..so I have to update it manually |
| 01:59.00 | mefistofeles | ok...I did it..lets hope it works :D |
| 01:59.15 | mefistofeles | brb..hopefully in my installed elive :P |
| 02:00.34 | Aviatrixie | anyone here ever play with Puppy? |
| 02:03.28 | Aviatrixie | OK... guess I might as well go... |
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| 02:34.27 | mefistofeles | wow |
| 02:34.36 | mefistofeles | that took a while :P |
| 02:34.41 | mefistofeles | a manual debconf :P |
| 02:35.14 | mefistofeles | but really nice :D |
| 02:35.15 | hermit2 | :) |
| 02:36.33 | mefistofeles | nice work :D |
| 02:36.41 | mefistofeles | very friendly and nice installer |
| 02:37.01 | mefistofeles | and I liked very much that debconf when loading for the frist time elive |
| 02:37.38 | hermit2 | It is nice, i liked it too. |
| 02:38.37 | mefistofeles | yeah...and learned a lot from that manual debconf :P |
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| 02:40.09 | mefistofeles | ok now I would like to know how to make that temp monitor work... and erase the battery one :P |
| 02:40.10 | mefistofeles | (its my first time with enlightenment) |
| 02:40.24 | hermit2 | I don't know how to get the temp to work.. some systems it doesn't work with. i don't know why |
| 02:40.41 | mefistofeles | hmm I think it depends on the motherboard |
| 02:42.04 | mefistofeles | and maybe downloading lm-sensors or anything like that :S heh |
| 02:42.04 | hermit2 | I had added lm-sensors and it still didn't work for me. |
| 02:42.26 | hermit2 | the battery you can turn off through the config uration section for modules |
| 02:42.59 | hermit2 | and see all the other modules you can turn on as well |
| 02:44.07 | hermit2 | like the clock |
| 02:48.29 | mefistofeles | hermit2, in the elive panel? |
| 02:48.30 | hermit2 | mmm.. check the left click menu first, i think there is a button there called configuration |
| 02:48.30 | hermit2 | or something to that effect |
| 02:48.30 | mefistofeles | ah ok |
| 02:48.31 | hermit2 | brb |
| 02:48.32 | mefistofeles | ok |
| 02:48.33 | mefistofeles | oh..I need the NTP thing for my local time :S I did an apt-get install ntp... but doesnt work...do I need anything else? |
| 02:51.01 | mefistofeles | ok I think I did it |
| 02:52.16 | hermit2 | ahh, good. |
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| 02:53.14 | hermit2 | do you have sound? |
| 02:53.47 | mefistofeles | yeah I do |
| 02:53.53 | hermit2 | great |
| 02:54.36 | mefistofeles | even though I would like to remove those sounds when enlightenment starts...or elive panel starts/finishes |
| 02:55.01 | hermit2 | hmm... I don't know how to do that. |
| 02:55.09 | mefistofeles | I'll figure it out :P |
| 02:56.08 | |elmo44| | evening |
| 02:56.08 | hermit2 | evenin |
| 02:56.08 | mefistofeles | lol...snow module hehe |
| 02:56.08 | |elmo44| | get a shovel! |
| 02:56.16 | GPLGeek | i plan to get one that rains cats and dogs |
| 02:56.19 | |elmo44| | i wonder when 0.7.0 will come out |
| 02:56.46 | GPLGeek | |elmo44|, right after .6.9.9.9.9.99999999999 revision 522 |
| 02:57.16 | GPLGeek | a version number is nothing! you will be shocked at the features that are coming |
| 02:57.33 | mefistofeles | Im liking very much elive :D |
| 02:57.35 | GPLGeek | thana's kicking ass on it |
| 02:57.40 | mefistofeles | very nice eyecandy and useful stuff |
| 02:57.58 | GPLGeek | useful people and friendly programs =p |
| 02:58.27 | hermit2 | how do I get the plugins to work in opera. it must be something to configure but i don't know what. |
| 02:59.14 | mefistofeles | how do I setup my zone in the temp module? |
| 02:59.16 | GPLGeek | the short answer is 'google' |
| 02:59.19 | GPLGeek | =) |
| 02:59.24 | mefistofeles | I mean..the weather module |
| 02:59.50 | hermit2 | ya, and the long answer is I haven't found a cure that works |
| 02:59.57 | |elmo44| | not only eyecandy (many window managers offer that, though not to this extent) but USEFULL stuff!! Plus, it is Debian based ;) |
| 03:00.05 | keyra | |elmo44|: Debian r00lz ! |
| 03:00.10 | GPLGeek | um you can edit it in the module configuration section, or by right clicking it, I think |
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| 03:00.45 | mefistofeles | yah...I've been using debian all this time... this is an improvement! :P concerning desktop oriented |
| 03:01.16 | dats | Thanatermesis: tas? |
| 03:01.43 | dats | deb.catalan x mandre descriure ... :P |
| 03:02.08 | mefistofeles | eventhough it doesnt run as fast as it should here :( |
| 03:02.25 | GPLGeek | a friend of mine told me I should try other linux distros, and I did. He said I was a total debian freak, and I am. I tried fedora and it had many problems installing, and first use, but after literally almost 300 security patches, and a regular update, it worked ok. Was lacking though. |
| 03:02.59 | GPLGeek | I tried many others, even buntu, linspire, and others |
| 03:03.48 | dats | bubuntu ? |
| 03:03.49 | GPLGeek | i've come to the conclusion that I was correct in being a die hard debian nerd. Some distros who are corporate sponsored even and have large support base just make a bad name for linux |
| 03:03.56 | keyra | dats: Ubuntu is OFF topic |
| 03:04.01 | mefistofeles | I've trried with slackware, red hat, SuSE, knoppix, ubuntu , kanotix, debian and elive... in chronological order |
| 03:04.10 | keyra | mefistofeles: ubuntu ? |
| 03:04.13 | GPLGeek | slackware is good |
| 03:04.15 | dats | keyra: why ? |
| 03:04.17 | mefistofeles | well as a live cd |
| 03:04.22 | mefistofeles | never liked ubuntu :S |
| 03:04.27 | GPLGeek | I dont like KDE on a livecd for some reason. |
| 03:04.36 | dats | i'm a debian user against to yeaar ago ... :SSSS |
| 03:04.39 | dats | minimilpy :S |
| 03:04.43 | dats | fuck shit!!!!!! |
| 03:04.48 | dats | soryy :S |
| 03:04.52 | dats | i don't want spam |
| 03:05.07 | dats | i'm from catalonia |
| 03:05.24 | GPLGeek | gentoo isnt that bad, if you like 24 hours of install. =) I guess you could copy over your arch's precompiled binaries and be running quick |
| 03:05.31 | dats | i'm know ane person of this channel who is aelive developer :S |
| 03:05.40 | dats | Thanatermesis: it's one :S |
| 03:05.46 | GPLGeek | who else? |
| 03:06.04 | GPLGeek | Ill give you a hint |
| 03:06.08 | mefistofeles | ahhh |
| 03:06.09 | mefistofeles | damn |
| 03:06.14 | dats | Thanatermesis: tas ? |
| 03:06.14 | mefistofeles | Im missing gentoo and freeBS |
| 03:06.16 | mefistofeles | BSD* |
| 03:06.20 | mefistofeles | I've used those as well |
| 03:06.29 | GPLGeek | nothing wrong with bsd |
| 03:06.48 | dats | aits a expression of mind :S |
| 03:07.00 | mefistofeles | gentoo not my thing :P BSD I really liked it... but not much for desktop |
| 03:07.11 | mefistofeles | really good for server/workstations |
| 03:07.12 | dats | be water my friend :S |
| 03:07.33 | |elmo44| | what about MEPIS ? |
| 03:11.46 | GPLGeek | It's been over a year and a half since I've used MEPIS |
| 03:11.50 | GPLGeek | and I only used it once |
| 03:12.00 | GPLGeek | it was horridly broken and so I just decided not to go any farther |
| 03:12.48 | GPLGeek | I wish they would build a i686 debian, other than the 86_64 |
| 03:13.19 | GPLGeek | I know its not that much of a change but those few instructions, and a few more clock cycles |
| 03:13.29 | GPLGeek | but then again we do have 86_64 |
| 03:13.41 | GPLGeek | most modern cpus now come with 64bit ability |
| 03:18.47 | mefistofeles | ok I just convinced some people to try elive :D |
| 03:20.57 | mefistofeles | woops |
| 03:21.28 | mefistofeles | tried changing resolution and the bar died :S I dont know the exact name...where firefox and other apps are |
| 03:21.42 | mefistofeles | that after a segfault on enlightenment :S heh |
| 03:30.59 | |elmo44| | GPLGeek: bad try with MEPIS, eh? |
| 03:31.45 | |elmo44| | i had good 'luck' with it up till 3.4.3 When they 'merged' with the 'buntu group, they renumbered it to 6.x, and that is where i began to dislike it. |
| 04:57.49 | GPLGeek | i used it way before that |
| 04:57.49 | GPLGeek | once |
| 04:57.49 | GPLGeek | some of the people were quite violent towards my questions |
| 04:57.49 | GPLGeek | didnt like the community |
| 04:57.50 | mefistofeles | lol |
| 04:57.50 | mefistofeles | that's also important |
| 04:57.50 | mefistofeles | Im linking this community so far :P |
| 04:57.50 | mefistofeles | liking* |
| 04:58.22 | elmo40 | GPLGeek: it is VERY different now. Quite like this community!! #mepis is very helpfull (at the right time of day) ;) |
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| 04:58.35 | GPLGeek | hmm |
| 04:58.35 | GPLGeek | i still dont like anything buntu related |
| 04:58.38 | mefistofeles | heh... I dont like it much either |
| 04:58.39 | mefistofeles | even though I chat in a ubuntu channel :P |
| 04:58.40 | keyra | mefistofeles: Ubuntu is OFF topic |
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| 04:59.55 | elmo40 | GPLGeek: me neither!! This is why i am staying with their 3.4.3 |
| 04:59.56 | mefistofeles | keyra, sorry... |
| 04:59.56 | elmo40 | 6.x is horrible... they might as well call it kubuntu! |
| 04:59.56 | keyra | mefistofeles: np :) |
| 04:59.57 | GPLGeek | stupid bot |
| 04:59.58 | elmo40 | keyra: who is apt? |
| 04:59.58 | elmo40 | keyra: what is apt? |
| 04:59.59 | elmo40 | keyra: apt |
| 04:59.59 | elmo40 | apt: keyra |
| 05:00.03 | keyra | elmo40: search in google |
| 05:00.03 | elmo40 | lmao |
| 05:00.04 | GPLGeek | apt get lost |
| 05:00.39 | apt | ACTION hides in the corner |
| 05:00.39 | elmo40 | notonly stupid, but lazy bot! |
| 05:00.40 | mefistofeles | anyone else getting a msg on amsn saying "the requested file has not been translated into the current language yet"?? |
| 05:01.14 | GPLGeek | i dont ever use amsn |
| 05:01.18 | mefistofeles | heh :S I do... not happy about it..but I need it |
| 05:01.27 | elmo40 | dont like gaim? |
| 05:01.27 | elmo40 | mefistofeles: you not using english for the default language? |
| 05:01.27 | elmo40 | if not, then that is prob why |
| 05:01.27 | elmo40 | LinuxNIT: i said g'night! |
| 05:01.28 | elmo40 | lol |
| 05:01.28 | elmo40 | later |
| 05:01.28 | LinuxNIT | good night |
| 05:01.28 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 05:01.29 | LinuxNIT | now go to bed |
| 05:01.29 | mefistofeles | elmo40, spanish :P |
| 05:01.29 | mefistofeles | well my default locale is for spanish |
| 05:01.30 | mefistofeles | elmo40, and dont like gaim... doesnt have a TeX plugin :D |
| 06:17.41 | mefistofeles | how do I regenerate menu...I installed amsn from a deb I had but the entry on the menu doesnt work |
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| 06:17.53 | mefistofeles | oh :S I lost the bar :S lol... I think it's called engage |
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| 06:18.50 | mefistofeles | ah lol |
| 06:18.51 | mefistofeles | it was the ibar module :P |
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| 21:36.34 | mefistofeles | bouba_: what happened? |
| 21:36.41 | mefistofeles | they mount? |
| 21:36.43 | PrinceAMD | mefistofeles, hi |
| 21:36.47 | mefistofeles | PrinceAMD: hey |
| 21:36.48 | PrinceAMD | bouba_ hi |
| 21:37.05 | PrinceAMD | mefistofeles, what's going on here? |
| 21:37.24 | mefistofeles | PrinceAMD: fixing some possible problems with ntfs |
| 21:37.28 | bouba_ | hi all :) |
| 21:37.30 | mefistofeles | probably because that FS sucks |
| 21:37.30 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 21:37.37 | bouba_ | mefistofeles yes |
| 21:37.40 | bouba_ | but... |
| 21:37.50 | bouba_ | this happen only in the elive mode:D |
| 21:38.01 | mefistofeles | live cd mode.. you mean..right? |
| 21:38.06 | bouba_ | yezzz |
| 21:38.07 | mefistofeles | ok |
| 21:38.14 | mefistofeles | are you in live cd now? |
| 21:38.18 | bouba_ | yeeees |
| 21:38.21 | bouba_ | :) |
| 21:38.47 | mefistofeles | ok ..can you tell me whats your elive partition? (installed) |
| 21:38.59 | mefistofeles | and one of your ntfs partitions |
| 21:39.02 | bouba_ | sorry? |
| 21:39.15 | bouba_ | what do you need? |
| 21:39.20 | mefistofeles | the route..like /mnt/hda1 or something like that |
| 21:39.55 | bouba_ | in /mnt/hdc1 i've a ntfs |
| 21:40.05 | mefistofeles | and where is the elive one? |
| 21:40.43 | bouba_ | /mnt/hdb3 the root, and /mnt/hdb2 /home |
| 21:40.46 | mefistofeles | ok |
| 21:40.49 | bouba_ | :) |
| 21:40.58 | mefistofeles | do ls /mnt/hdb3/mnt/hdc1/ |
| 21:41.06 | mefistofeles | and tell me whats the output |
| 21:41.21 | bouba_ | not_mounted |
| 21:41.36 | mefistofeles | heh |
| 21:41.39 | bouba_ | ls /mnt/hdb3/mnt/hdc1/ ? |
| 21:41.40 | mefistofeles | thought so |
| 21:41.42 | mefistofeles | yes |
| 21:41.59 | mefistofeles | what you need to do is remove those not_mounted files from your ntfs partitions |
| 21:42.04 | bouba_ | but trought thunar i can see and use my ntfs :) |
| 21:42.07 | mefistofeles | I did that and now they mount |
| 21:42.40 | mefistofeles | bouba_: boot to your installed elive and come here |
| 21:42.45 | mefistofeles | I'll tell you what to do |
| 21:42.57 | mefistofeles | or no! |
| 21:43.01 | bouba_ | ok. |
| 21:43.07 | mefistofeles | bouba_: remove those files from your live cd hehe |
| 21:43.19 | mefistofeles | rm /mnt/hdb3/mnt/hdc1/not:mounted |
| 21:43.32 | mefistofeles | rm /mnt/hdb3/mnt/hdc1/not_mounted |
| 21:43.44 | bouba_ | but what is thise file?:) |
| 21:43.56 | bouba_ | this:D |
| 21:43.59 | mefistofeles | I dont know... but thats what's causing the problem |
| 21:44.06 | mefistofeles | I removed them.. dont be affraid :D |
| 21:44.13 | bouba_ | ;) |
| 21:44.45 | bouba_ | ok removed |
| 21:44.55 | mefistofeles | ok now elive should automount hdc1 |
| 21:45.02 | bouba_ | ok i try:) |
| 21:45.03 | mefistofeles | do that with the other ntfs partitions..if you have more |
| 21:45.30 | bouba_ | now i reboot on installed one:) |
| 21:45.33 | mefistofeles | ok |
| 21:47.06 | mefistofeles | hope that works :P |
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| 21:48.14 | bouba_ | mefistofeles :) |
| 21:48.19 | bouba_ | works! |
| 21:48.37 | bouba_ | can you explain me why? :) |
| 21:48.59 | mefistofeles | :P |
| 21:49.00 | bouba_ | what is this file? why elive create it? |
| 21:49.12 | mefistofeles | well the main reason is that the default mount needs an empty directory |
| 21:49.23 | mefistofeles | and obviously those mount points (directories) werent empty |
| 21:49.38 | mefistofeles | now...I dont know why that not_mounted file appeared there |
| 21:49.49 | mefistofeles | but apparently thanatarmesis fixed that |
| 21:49.55 | bouba_ | ahhhhh :) |
| 21:50.05 | bouba_ | grat work!;) |
| 21:50.09 | bouba_ | great |
| 21:50.25 | mefistofeles | heh ok |
| 21:50.34 | bouba_ | thanks! |
| 21:50.38 | mefistofeles | it's my first day with elive and already "saved" an user :D |
| 21:50.39 | mefistofeles | lol |
| 21:50.47 | bouba_ | muahahhaah |
| 21:50.54 | bouba_ | i'm a stupid noob:D |
| 21:51.11 | mefistofeles | nah... IM just experienced... have used debian |
| 21:51.34 | bouba_ | me too, but i remain a nood ihihihihi |
| 21:51.40 | mefistofeles | lol... hehe |
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| 21:58.05 | bouba_ | well well well. now all works well on 0.6.3 :) |
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| 21:59.06 | mefistofeles | bouba_: thats good :P |
| 21:59.32 | mefistofeles | btw... bouba_ ... are those temp, cpu, and such modules working for you? |
| 21:59.38 | mefistofeles | or how to make them work? |
| 22:00.19 | bouba_ | temp doesn't works |
| 22:00.42 | mefistofeles | yeah... I think some packages are needed...and depends also on hardware...I guess |
| 22:00.54 | LinuxNIT | you need modules loaded |
| 22:00.57 | LinuxNIT | kernel modules |
| 22:01.03 | bouba_ | yes i thinks also some kernel modules right? |
| 22:01.04 | mefistofeles | yeah ..I guess so |
| 22:01.13 | mefistofeles | LinuxNIT: how to load them? modprobe? |
| 22:01.15 | LinuxNIT | laptop or desktop here? |
| 22:01.19 | mefistofeles | desktop |
| 22:01.22 | bouba_ | desktop:D eheh |
| 22:01.29 | LinuxNIT | try modprobe battery |
| 22:01.38 | mefistofeles | battery? |
| 22:01.39 | LinuxNIT | and maybe temp.... let me look |
| 22:01.43 | mefistofeles | hehe ok |
| 22:01.45 | LinuxNIT | nm |
| 22:01.46 | LinuxNIT | lol |
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| 22:01.55 | LinuxNIT | cpu and temp is what you want right? |
| 22:02.01 | mefistofeles | yeah |
| 22:02.05 | LinuxNIT | what cpu? |
| 22:02.14 | mefistofeles | hmm cache maybe |
| 22:02.21 | mefistofeles | is there a cache one? :P |
| 22:02.27 | LinuxNIT | cpu? |
| 22:02.34 | mefistofeles | yeah...cpu's cache |
| 22:02.39 | mefistofeles | isnt it? :S |
| 22:02.43 | bouba_ | and |
| 22:02.45 | bouba_ | intel |
| 22:02.47 | bouba_ | via |
| 22:02.48 | bouba_ | :D |
| 22:02.51 | LinuxNIT | do you have intel or amd or what? |
| 22:02.53 | mefistofeles | ahhh... intel yeah |
| 22:02.54 | mefistofeles | lol |
| 22:02.57 | bouba_ | :D |
| 22:02.58 | mefistofeles | my bad english :D |
| 22:03.00 | LinuxNIT | intel what? |
| 22:03.04 | mefistofeles | intel P4 |
| 22:03.10 | mefistofeles | 1.7ghz |
| 22:03.38 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 22:04.32 | LinuxNIT | modprobe thermal |
| 22:04.38 | LinuxNIT | that might get temp for you |
| 22:04.48 | LinuxNIT | im not sure if this works with a desktop... i never tried |
| 22:04.50 | mefistofeles | LinuxNIT: ok..let me check.. |
| 22:04.54 | mefistofeles | heh ok |
| 22:04.55 | LinuxNIT | as root |
| 22:04.58 | mefistofeles | sure |
| 22:05.57 | mefistofeles | LinuxNIT: dont we need lm-sensors? |
| 22:06.16 | bouba_ | in those latests release, elive doens't have anymore a great program... gkrellm... o something like this:D |
| 22:06.37 | bouba_ | it was a great program:9 |
| 22:06.42 | mefistofeles | well..the modules do that...and in my opinion in a better way :P |
| 22:07.01 | mefistofeles | (of course...if you make them work properly :D) |
| 22:07.08 | bouba_ | :D |
| 22:07.14 | LinuxNIT | mefistofeles, maybe... i never used those so i dunno |
| 22:07.24 | mefistofeles | ah ok |
| 22:07.26 | LinuxNIT | install it and see if that works |
| 22:07.26 | bouba_ | i only know that i start it and it works:D |
| 22:07.33 | mefistofeles | yeah im installing |
| 22:07.58 | LinuxNIT | i guess i never worried about cpu speed and temp etc when i had a desktop :) |
| 22:08.07 | mefistofeles | bouba_: anyway you could install gkrellm |
| 22:08.21 | bouba_ | yea of course :) |
| 22:08.23 | mefistofeles | LinuxNIT: yeah..just a "freaky" thing |
| 22:08.28 | mefistofeles | lol |
| 22:08.48 | bouba_ | a a things |
| 22:09.16 | bouba_ | in all elive version, after an installation, my sound is "muted" in the alsa panel |
| 22:10.05 | bouba_ | i must uncheck "mute" and grow up the volume :) |
| 22:10.23 | bouba_ | i don't know why |
| 22:10.26 | bouba_ | :D |
| 22:10.36 | mefistofeles | my master is muted... but my pcm its not..so it works :P |
| 22:11.10 | bouba_ | if my master is muted i don't ear nothings:D |
| 22:11.16 | LinuxNIT | bouba_, thats wierd |
| 22:11.22 | LinuxNIT | mine is never muted lol |
| 22:11.35 | bouba_ | i told to thanam and he told me that is my ram... |
| 22:12.04 | bouba_ | i changed my RAM (1gb now) but the problem remain |
| 22:12.05 | bouba_ | :D |
| 22:12.11 | mefistofeles | LinuxNIT: do you use the tclock module? |
| 22:12.16 | LinuxNIT | i do |
| 22:12.43 | mefistofeles | LinuxNIT: yesterday it worked... but now it doesnt show anything...any ideas? |
| 22:13.11 | LinuxNIT | restart enelightenement |
| 22:13.22 | mefistofeles | I've done it |
| 22:13.25 | mefistofeles | but nothing |
| 22:14.00 | bouba_ | wow works the cpu module:D |
| 22:14.53 | mefistofeles | I have weather and uptime running right now |
| 22:15.22 | bouba_ | uptime enabled:D |
| 22:15.25 | bouba_ | iihihih |
| 22:16.10 | mefistofeles | that uptime is a must for me..since this is not my machine.. and I can use it for a limited amount of time... that if someone else needs it |
| 22:16.35 | bouba_ | :) |
| 22:16.57 | bouba_ | there are a lot modules now:) |
| 22:17.34 | bouba_ | there are many modules now:) |
| 22:17.51 | bouba_ | maybe this is correct:F |
| 22:17.52 | bouba_ | :D |
| 22:18.25 | LinuxNIT | either works |
| 22:19.20 | twager | Anyone using compiz ? |
| 22:20.12 | bouba_ | umm... no :| |
| 22:21.03 | twager | Ever tried ? |
| 22:21.21 | LinuxNIT | beryl seemed better |
| 22:21.47 | mefistofeles | I've tried beryl |
| 22:21.50 | twager | Beryl is not in the repos is it ? |
| 22:21.53 | mefistofeles | didnt lkike it much to be honest |
| 22:22.16 | LinuxNIT | on elive? |
| 22:22.24 | mefistofeles | well it was an old version of beryl... so they have improved it for sure |
| 22:22.29 | mefistofeles | LinuxNIT: no..on debian sid |
| 22:22.51 | LinuxNIT | no beryl isnt |
| 22:23.06 | LinuxNIT | least not last time i checked |
| 22:23.11 | twager | Knoppix comes with 3d set up but ut does not see my vid card |
| 22:24.18 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
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| 22:25.53 | twager | Odd thing is I have a gforce 5500 which works ok with elive but I cannot set it up in any other deb based distro |
| 22:26.43 | LinuxNIT | wierd. although i know that thana has done a lot of work to get nvidea and ati cards to work well |
| 22:26.51 | LinuxNIT | hes spent numerous hours on it |
| 22:27.42 | twager | I have spent hours trying with ubuntu and debian but the system always freezes...Myahos and vec are ok though |
| 22:28.05 | bouba_ | i can say that nvidia works perfectlly |
| 22:28.19 | LinuxNIT | myahos and vec? distros i assume? |
| 22:28.46 | twager | yes...Which card do you have bouba ? |
| 22:28.53 | bouba_ | geforce 6200 |
| 22:29.08 | bouba_ | used "new_driver" |
| 22:29.29 | twager | And have you tried it on ubuntu ? |
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| 22:30.20 | bouba_ | i hate ubuntu:| sorry |
| 22:30.28 | keyra | bouba_: Ubuntu is OFF topic |
| 22:30.33 | mefistofeles | lol |
| 22:30.39 | bouba_ | hihih |
| 22:30.52 | bouba_ | i like this half_bot |
| 22:30.54 | bouba_ | :D |
| 22:31.09 | bouba_ | hi keyra |
| 22:31.17 | keyra | bouba_: hi :) |
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| 22:54.20 | Elive_user99 | any staffers around? |
| 22:54.40 | Elive_user99 | anyone? |
| 22:54.53 | wizard123 | hmm |
| 22:55.01 | wizard123 | am i invisible or what? |
| 22:55.37 | LinuxNIT | sup Elive_user99 ? |
| 22:55.48 | Elive_user99 | in elive how do you get the taskbar to always be displayed even when firefox is opened |
| 22:55.50 | Elive_user99 | ? |
| 22:56.06 | LinuxNIT | is firefox hiding it? |
| 22:56.14 | Elive_user99 | because mines always hidden yep |
| 22:56.22 | LinuxNIT | set it to be on top |
| 22:56.26 | Elive_user99 | how |
| 22:56.28 | wizard123 | hmm... you mean whn you maximize window? |
| 22:56.31 | LinuxNIT | e17 right? |
| 22:56.38 | Elive_user99 | yeah |
| 22:56.38 | bouba_ | wizard where are you?:D i can't see you! |
| 22:57.04 | wizard123 | hi bouba_ |
| 22:57.05 | wizard123 | :] |
| 22:57.08 | bouba_ | ;) |
| 22:57.31 | bouba_ | in e17 037 you have this features |
| 22:57.47 | bouba_ | like taskbar of winzoz |
| 22:57.52 | Elive_user99 | has anyone got any ideas? |
| 22:57.55 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user99, on the default e17 version i think either you right click on the module and its a module setting to check in the manipulation settings in the e17 config panel |
| 22:58.26 | LinuxNIT | something about overlap i think |
| 22:58.40 | LinuxNIT | wizard123, may know better i think hes on the default version |
| 22:58.56 | wizard123 | i'm on windows 2000 now :P |
| 22:59.01 | LinuxNIT | :o |
| 22:59.06 | LinuxNIT | apt, spank wizard123 |
| 22:59.08 | apt | ACTION bends wizard123 over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on wizard123's pasty white buttocks. |
| 22:59.13 | wizard123 | not my pc |
| 22:59.16 | LinuxNIT | oh ok |
| 22:59.23 | LinuxNIT | thats excuable then ;) |
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| 22:59.32 | LinuxNIT | * excusable |
| 22:59.42 | wizard123 | :] |
| 22:59.53 | bouba_ | linuxnit, on 026 you can see opened program in taskbar? |
| 22:59.59 | wizard123 | my brother also has freebsd.. but i'm to lazy to reboot |
| 23:00.48 | LinuxNIT | bouba_, i dont think 026 has the task bar module does it? |
| 23:01.00 | bouba_ | ah ok :) |
| 23:01.08 | bouba_ | 037 has it :) |
| 23:01.11 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 23:01.16 | bouba_ | eheheh ok |
| 23:01.31 | bouba_ | but it's a little unstable:D:D:D:D |
| 23:01.36 | LinuxNIT | i dont KNOW about 26 but i dont THINK so |
| 23:01.43 | LinuxNIT | 037 works fine for me |
| 23:01.54 | LinuxNIT | note the "for me" part ;) |
| 23:02.08 | bouba_ | really? my 037 crash every 3 seconda:D:D:D |
| 23:02.22 | LinuxNIT | bouba_, does it return you to entrance? |
| 23:02.34 | bouba_ | yeees |
| 23:02.41 | bouba_ | sfter a segfault |
| 23:02.46 | bouba_ | after |
| 23:03.14 | LinuxNIT | could be two things. |
| 23:03.18 | LinuxNIT | 1. did you run the script to fix entance? |
| 23:03.27 | LinuxNIT | 2. you may need to delete ~/.e |
| 23:03.45 | bouba_ | i followed the www.elivedev.org tutorial |
| 23:03.46 | bouba_ | :D |
| 23:03.48 | LinuxNIT | there were huge changes between -.26 and 27 |
| 23:03.52 | bouba_ | step by step |
| 23:04.03 | LinuxNIT | its only one step |
| 23:04.04 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 23:04.08 | bouba_ | na na na:D |
| 23:04.13 | bouba_ | 3 or 4:D |
| 23:04.17 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 23:04.19 | LinuxNIT | link me |
| 23:04.23 | bouba_ | whait |
| 23:04.53 | bouba_ | http://www.elivedev.org/?q=node/9 |
| 23:05.47 | bouba_ | anyway... with this tutorial, after boot, entrance doesn't start:D:D:D:D |
| 23:05.53 | bouba_ | ihihihi |
| 23:06.16 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 23:07.16 | LinuxNIT | so you boot to a command line? |
| 23:07.21 | LinuxNIT | text login? |
| 23:07.26 | bouba_ | yeees |
| 23:08.22 | wizard123 | LinuxNIT: what's strange in it? i do the same |
| 23:08.32 | bouba_ | login->startx->opened elpanl->changed entrance theme->reboot->all works well ;) |
| 23:08.58 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 23:09.23 | bouba_ | wizard123, but in this tutorial in a step there you should fix entrance... |
| 23:10.17 | LinuxNIT | wizard123, theres nothing wrong with loging in with text but most people dont want to |
| 23:11.14 | Elive_user99 | hey guys im afraid i still cant get my tool bar raised |
| 23:11.26 | Elive_user99 | has anyone got any other suggestions? |
| 23:11.37 | bouba_ | a question: how can i start e17 in tex mode? with startx start e16 :) |
| 23:11.46 | bouba_ | thanks |
| 23:11.55 | LinuxNIT | startx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start |
| 23:12.03 | bouba_ | thanks:D |
| 23:12.15 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user99, did you hunt through the config panel for e17 (not elpanel) |
| 23:12.51 | Elive_user99 | brb |
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| 23:24.16 | bouba_ | bye guys :D see you sooon:) |
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