| 00:00.25 | lordlamer | ah ok |
| 00:03.05 | roxville | hermit2, http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ |
| 00:03.15 | roxville | the marillat repo changed name to this |
| 00:04.08 | roxville | hmmm but it's already in the sources.list... |
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| 00:07.50 | roxville | hermit2, did you install via apt-get or this? http://www.opera.com/download/ |
| 00:08.10 | roxville | they have a aversion for etch |
| 00:08.15 | hermit2 | actually i have both |
| 00:08.25 | roxville | lol, not aversion... a version |
| 00:08.35 | roxville | both? installed? |
| 00:09.36 | hermit2 | ya, had the one from thier web site and then thana updated the repo so i tried it to see if things would work better... ehh they remain the same |
| 00:10.22 | hermit2 | I know I'm using the repo one cause I had to reset my customizations for it |
| 00:12.01 | roxville | ok |
| 00:14.34 | roxville | oh great... vobcopy is standing STILL... |
| 00:14.56 | roxville | LinuxNIT, i just tried gdebi... VERY nice app! |
| 00:15.08 | roxville | thx for the tip :) |
| 00:15.37 | PrinceAMD | ah |
| 00:15.43 | PrinceAMD | nice comvo wid new girl |
| 00:15.50 | roxville | :) |
| 00:16.03 | PrinceAMD | looks like i'll be kissing new lips in 4days |
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| 00:16.49 | roxville | ok PrinceAMD thx for the info :D |
| 00:16.52 | mefistofeles | hey |
| 00:17.09 | roxville | hey |
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| 00:20.03 | PrinceAMD | roxville, no problem |
| 00:20.17 | roxville | :) |
| 00:20.34 | roxville | crap, vobcopy timed out... |
| 00:36.06 | roxville | hermit2, /home/hermit/.opera/pluginpath.ini |
| 00:36.15 | roxville | you have found that, am i right? |
| 00:37.11 | hermit2 | yes |
| 00:37.25 | roxville | ok |
| 00:38.06 | roxville | have you tried to change /usr/lib/mozilla path to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins? |
| 00:38.21 | hermit2 | no |
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| 00:41.41 | roxville | hermit2, forget it, the mozilla one has more plugins... sorry |
| 00:41.44 | roxville | i didn't look |
| 00:41.58 | hermit2 | didn't change anything anyway |
| 00:42.04 | hermit2 | it was worth a try |
| 00:42.26 | roxville | it's the damn path/to/java thing... |
| 00:42.52 | hermit2 | I think that may be the problem. I need to install java |
| 00:43.05 | roxville | wow, my daughter is BEGGING to go to bed... that's a rare one! |
| 00:43.15 | roxville | hermit2, |
| 00:43.16 | hermit2 | check her temp |
| 00:43.22 | roxville | try apt-get install java |
| 00:43.31 | roxville | i think it IS installed, however |
| 00:43.40 | hermit2 | trying, the repo is slow |
| 00:43.47 | roxville | nah, we ran the crap outta her today :) |
| 00:44.08 | hermit2 | well that would do it too |
| 00:44.12 | roxville | yep |
| 00:44.18 | roxville | ok, i'll bbiab |
| 00:44.37 | hermit2 | ok, gotta fix dinner , brb |
| 00:45.30 | mefistofeles | fix? heh |
| 01:00.15 | hermit2 | I suppose serve would be more accurate as i already cooked it |
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| 01:22.26 | roxville | wb hermit2 |
| 01:22.33 | roxville | i found java |
| 01:22.55 | roxville | it's in /usr/share/jre-something |
| 01:23.39 | roxville | maybe symlink to opera-plugins folder? |
| 01:24.02 | roxville | LinuxNIT, how do i make symlinks? |
| 01:33.38 | LinuxNIT | ln -s path-to-target path-to-link |
| 01:34.36 | roxville | thanks :) |
| 01:34.43 | LinuxNIT | anytime |
| 01:34.46 | hermit2 | ok, question. if I check the plugin path as listed in opera itself it says: /usr/lib/opera/plugins:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. those folders are there so what is preventing opera from accessing video content? |
| 01:35.48 | roxville | hermit2, i have no idea... i went to opera prefs and put the right path to java in... and it still didn't work |
| 01:36.02 | roxville | and... elive uses the latest flash9 |
| 01:36.23 | hermit2 | yes, so it "should" just work |
| 01:37.21 | roxville | yep |
| 01:37.45 | hermit2 | does mplayer work? |
| 01:37.58 | roxville | we need to find the settings file for where it LOOKS for the flash player |
| 01:38.54 | hermit2 | tools>advanced>plugins |
| 01:39.17 | hermit2 | I believe that is the lisrt of available plugins and the path used to find them |
| 01:41.02 | hermit2 | I've looked in opera's forums and just keep finding post that say the question was already answered |
| 01:47.19 | roxville | lol |
| 01:48.41 | roxville | application/asx- |
| 01:48.42 | roxville | video/x-ms-asf-plugin- |
| 01:48.42 | roxville | application/x-mplayer2- |
| 01:48.42 | roxville | these are the ones not found... |
| 01:49.04 | hermit2 | hmm... I must not have read closely enough |
| 01:50.05 | roxville | in that list are ones that don't have a version at the end of the line |
| 01:50.25 | roxville | no... no extension |
| 01:50.36 | hermit2 | oh, thats what that means |
| 01:51.22 | roxville | Thanatermesis, where is the flashplayer installed? |
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| 01:51.43 | hermit2 | the very first one too.. application/x-opera-nsplugin |
| 01:52.11 | Thanatermesis | dpkg -l | grep flash |
| 01:52.18 | Thanatermesis | dpkg -L flash-package-name |
| 01:56.23 | goldstein | (yay..!) |
| 01:57.10 | roxville | hey goldie! |
| 01:57.29 | roxville | how's portugal this time of the year? |
| 01:57.44 | goldstein | i dont know, i live in a batcave |
| 01:58.13 | goldstein | lol.. i guess it's cold out there |
| 01:58.25 | goldstein | not snow cold :( |
| 01:58.26 | roxville | ok... and where is this bat cave located? |
| 01:58.34 | roxville | lol |
| 01:58.43 | roxville | good seeing ya anyway :) |
| 01:58.48 | goldstein | you too! |
| 01:59.14 | roxville | hermit2, /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so |
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| 01:59.38 | goldstein | have i told you i got beryl working on my old geforce 420 with only 32mb :p? |
| 01:59.46 | roxville | hermit2, maybe... we want THIS? /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/libflashplayer.so |
| 02:00.07 | roxville | goldstein, wow, that's quite a feat! |
| 02:00.11 | roxville | good job! |
| 02:00.50 | goldstein | not in enlightenment yet, though... only in gnome |
| 02:01.08 | hermit2 | roxville, /libflashplayer.so is not in my version of that first path you wrote |
| 02:02.37 | hermit2 | the plugins in the iceweasel folder look just like the ones in the mozilla folder |
| 02:03.27 | LinuxNIT | goldstein, you wont get beryl in enlightenment ;) |
| 02:04.17 | goldstein | hum.. when i'm doing a memtest, does it eventualy ends? or keeps starting from the begining, counting +1 "pass"? |
| 02:04.18 | LinuxNIT | roxville, ive run and still do some times run beryl on my 32mb ati... works pretty well most of the time. |
| 02:04.30 | LinuxNIT | goldstein, memtest just keeps going |
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| 02:04.36 | LinuxNIT | repeating itself |
| 02:04.51 | goldstein | LinuxNIT, i must reboot it then eheh..thx |
| 02:04.56 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 02:05.09 | goldstein | LinuxNIT, no beryl possible with e? |
| 02:05.28 | roxville | hi amagus , how are you doing? |
| 02:05.30 | LinuxNIT | goldstein, both beryl and enlightenment are window managers |
| 02:05.33 | LinuxNIT | so no |
| 02:05.44 | LinuxNIT | you cant run two window managers ;) |
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| 02:05.56 | roxville | amagus, i am the guy from last night... macho_nacho is my only other nick |
| 02:06.05 | goldstein | yes i know that, but there should be a away of mixing the best of both |
| 02:06.07 | goldstein | :D |
| 02:06.12 | mefistofeles | LinuxNIT: I think E17 is a desktop... |
| 02:06.14 | amagus | sup rox is primate |
| 02:06.23 | roxville | hermit2, this is very frustrating :) |
| 02:06.37 | roxville | ahhh amagus ok :) |
| 02:06.42 | mefistofeles | now...e16 sure is "only" a window manager |
| 02:06.42 | amagus | lol |
| 02:06.44 | amagus | sup guys |
| 02:06.49 | hermit2 | memtest runs until you stop it, usually it is recomened to run it over night |
| 02:06.52 | LinuxNIT | mefistofeles, try starting e16(a window manager) from the command line |
| 02:06.54 | roxville | we're good, how are you? |
| 02:07.02 | LinuxNIT | mefistofeles, it will tell you that another wm is already running |
| 02:07.08 | goldstein | i love e16. |
| 02:07.11 | LinuxNIT | e17 is a window manager.... with extra |
| 02:07.15 | amagus | yeah i was dissapointed about the segfault i got in e16, i prefer it over e17 |
| 02:07.25 | LinuxNIT | its kind of a cross between a wm and a desktop |
| 02:07.37 | amagus | good, trying to figure out what project i want to work on |
| 02:07.49 | amagus | beryl, e16, e17, something else? |
| 02:07.57 | LinuxNIT | segfault in e16... thats pretty wierd |
| 02:08.20 | amagus | idk, i noticed you guys talking about beryl and that other one what is it? they are awesome, i really think this is the future of desktop operating systems. |
| 02:08.34 | goldstein | i should find a way to run only beryl... with certain plugins it can be closer to E |
| 02:08.37 | goldstein | and no gnome :) |
| 02:08.47 | amagus | yeah it happened anytime i tried to remember a windows placement |
| 02:09.20 | amagus | thatd be cool goldstein, thinner and quicker but with eye candy and appeal is the way to go |
| 02:09.47 | goldstein | yep. |
| 02:09.52 | amagus | e17 has its window manager integrated into itself as i believe? |
| 02:10.32 | LinuxNIT | e17 is a window manager with modules |
| 02:10.35 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 02:10.44 | mefistofeles | thats a desktop :P |
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| 02:11.02 | mefistofeles | xfce is xfwm with stuff :P |
| 02:11.06 | LinuxNIT | mefistofeles, try running another wm on top of e17... it wont work |
| 02:11.09 | LinuxNIT | e17 is a wm |
| 02:11.15 | mefistofeles | hmm... |
| 02:11.19 | mefistofeles | now you got me :p |
| 02:11.20 | LinuxNIT | try it |
| 02:11.36 | goldstein | it wont.. |
| 02:11.43 | LinuxNIT | i know :) |
| 02:12.07 | LinuxNIT | this is why beryl wont run on enlightenment ;) |
| 02:12.31 | mefistofeles | yeah... |
| 02:12.40 | goldstein | eheh.. i know it doesnt make many sense |
| 02:12.46 | mefistofeles | but e18 is planning to do composite stuff...isnt it? |
| 02:12.51 | goldstein | but i'd like to get the best of two |
| 02:13.04 | LinuxNIT | e17 can do composite... install the bling module |
| 02:13.16 | goldstein | shadows, translucences, the cube.. |
| 02:13.18 | mefistofeles | yeah e17 can as well.. just e18 would do it as default |
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| 02:13.24 | goldstein | e16 can too, i think |
| 02:13.42 | LinuxNIT | welcome Aviatrixie |
| 02:13.50 | goldstein | but i dont know how to do it. |
| 02:13.51 | roxville | <LinuxNIT> e17 is a wm <- it's a desktop shell... according to the docs |
| 02:14.04 | LinuxNIT | roxville, well its also a wm |
| 02:14.14 | LinuxNIT | you cant get around it |
| 02:14.26 | LinuxNIT | you cant run another wm at the same time |
| 02:14.31 | roxville | lol, i'm not trying to |
| 02:14.35 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 02:14.57 | Aviatrixie | hi there :) |
| 02:15.04 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.06 | goldstein | hey Aviatrixie |
| 02:15.12 | keyra | LinuxNIT: hi |
| 02:15.41 | goldstein | last.fm is cool. |
| 02:16.01 | Aviatrixie | Well... I just messed up my Puppy install... again. I think it must be a hardware problem. :( |
| 02:16.20 | LinuxNIT | :( |
| 02:16.48 | Aviatrixie | on a brighter note, I think I'll replace it with elive. |
| 02:16.56 | goldstein | eheh |
| 02:17.10 | Aviatrixie | This is a nice distro. |
| 02:17.45 | goldstein | two good things: debian based, and enlightenment. |
| 02:17.51 | amagus | hey does anyone know other ways to get into a BIOS than F1 and F2 keys? |
| 02:18.00 | LinuxNIT | del |
| 02:18.01 | LinuxNIT | esc |
| 02:18.05 | goldstein | DEL, F12, F8 |
| 02:18.09 | goldstein | lol |
| 02:18.14 | goldstein | seen them all |
| 02:18.17 | amagus | i have a gateway that boots too quickly, i cant see the hardware boot screen. :\ |
| 02:18.20 | LinuxNIT | just start hitting keys |
| 02:18.21 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 02:18.24 | amagus | i did!!!! |
| 02:18.27 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 02:18.29 | amagus | lol it sux, |
| 02:18.35 | Aviatrixie | I like debian... but I'm surprised enlightenment isn't more common. I wonder why... |
| 02:18.36 | amagus | i bashed them all! |
| 02:18.47 | hermit2 | delete key |
| 02:19.07 | hermit2 | sometimes the insert key |
| 02:19.11 | goldstein | Aviatrixie, maybe it's too powerfull for the average user. |
| 02:19.26 | Aviatrixie | amagus... depends on the PC/bios. Mine asks for the delete key. |
| 02:19.41 | amagus | u kno, i tried them all |
| 02:20.00 | LinuxNIT | ask google about your modle of laptop ;) |
| 02:20.03 | amagus | ill try again, see what i can gather, bbs all |
| 02:20.03 | amagus | late |
| 02:20.07 | LinuxNIT | he might know... he knows a lot |
| 02:20.22 | amagus | its a screen/desk |
| 02:20.23 | hermit2 | if its booting too fast you'll have to hold it down just as the power comes on |
| 02:20.25 | amagus | whatever they are |
| 02:20.31 | LinuxNIT | or desktop |
| 02:20.32 | amagus | k ill try that |
| 02:20.33 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 02:20.51 | goldstein | just finished cleaning the processor cooler and fan from a friends laptop |
| 02:21.06 | LinuxNIT | i think i need to do that |
| 02:21.10 | goldstein | that was always shuting down! |
| 02:21.16 | goldstein | overheat... |
| 02:21.17 | LinuxNIT | mines a bit older |
| 02:21.38 | LinuxNIT | its probably gettting dirty inside |
| 02:22.30 | goldstein | this one, a toshiba, has the cpu glued with the heatsink |
| 02:22.39 | Aviatrixie | goldstein... I always liked Puppy... and simple and lite wms. Recently I fell in love with Dreamlinux 2.2 and how they got Engage to work with xfce. That got me interested in Enlightenment... ergo elive. |
| 02:22.49 | goldstein | and when i put everything together it didnt work |
| 02:23.10 | goldstein | i thougth i screwd it lol |
| 02:23.20 | LinuxNIT | 0_0 |
| 02:23.29 | LinuxNIT | forget the battery? |
| 02:23.30 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 02:23.34 | goldstein | Aviatrixie, thats a beautiful love story |
| 02:23.58 | goldstein | nop, forgot lock the cpu socket |
| 02:24.10 | hermit2 | ouch |
| 02:24.16 | LinuxNIT | :o |
| 02:24.53 | Aviatrixie | it is a beautiful thing |
| 02:25.07 | goldstein | because the processor is glued to the heatsink and you just can see what your doing! |
| 02:26.06 | hermit2 | you sure the overheating didn't just bake the thermal stuff so hard that they seem glued together? |
| 02:26.43 | Aviatrixie | I like playing with old puters. If I could get elive running on my old TI99 I would. As it is I'm running it on an old p2 266 I picked up at Salvation Army. ;) |
| 02:27.05 | goldstein | no.. i ve read somewhere that toshiba did this. |
| 02:27.43 | hermit2 | hmm.. seems a silly thing for them to do.. what do i know. |
| 02:27.48 | goldstein | but it could be bacause of the time |
| 02:28.11 | goldstein | i could try to force it to unglue, but would be too risky |
| 02:28.55 | hermit2 | ya, could be, you'd have to research it... but i suppose the test would be if it still over heats |
| 02:29.47 | Aviatrixie | I gather someone has an overheating cpu |
| 02:30.01 | goldstein | it doesnt.. i could even do the memtest. would shutdown at 6%to 10% |
| 02:30.35 | hermit2 | then i'd leave it be. |
| 02:31.12 | goldstein | yes.. usually i blame windows and i thought it was a virus or driver problems.. |
| 02:31.57 | Aviatrixie | goldstein... shame on you... still using M$! ;) |
| 02:32.21 | goldstein | not my computer Aviatrixie |
| 02:32.57 | Aviatrixie | k... I wandered in late, goldstein... sawwy. |
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| 02:34.33 | goldstein | though i sometimes have to install it to use visual studio <vomit> for college. but now i think was the last time. |
| 02:34.34 | Aviatrixie | I'm serious when I say I think I'll replace Puppy with Elive on this old P@ tho... it seems to be really well put together. |
| 02:34.54 | goldstein | nice :) |
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| 02:34.56 | roxville | hermit2, all get on searches are ppl with probs with flas on opera |
| 02:34.58 | LinuxNIT | yeah its a pretty nice setup |
| 02:35.08 | amagus | ok got BIOS with the del key |
| 02:35.08 | amagus | <amagus> but i still cant boot with a dvd, only a cd, id like to try sabyon linux, it works on the laptop but not this machine... |
| 02:35.08 | amagus | <amagus> oh and get this, i cant read dvds even in elive |
| 02:35.08 | amagus | <amagus> i yi yi |
| 02:35.14 | amagus | duh |
| 02:36.02 | hermit2 | roxville, ya, but usually something like it sort of works and then crashes if it too heavy in flash |
| 02:36.21 | roxville | yeah |
| 02:36.34 | Aviatrixie | I multiboot... but my mainstay is Ubuntu. Say what you want, it just works. But enen Xubuntu wont work on this old P2 Klamath. |
| 02:36.38 | hermit2 | and its not just flash |
| 02:36.42 | keyra | Aviatrixie: Ubuntu is OFF topic |
| 02:37.05 | Aviatrixie | yeah yeah keyra... you hunky bot you |
| 02:37.26 | keyra | Aviatrixie: me ? |
| 02:37.26 | roxville | amagus, i had to put in a dvd just to check...it worked fine...i'm running 0.6.3 |
| 02:37.26 | LinuxNIT | 0_0 |
| 02:37.26 | goldstein | lol.... i use it too, nothing wrong with it. |
| 02:37.28 | amagus | its def the hardware then.. |
| 02:38.05 | amagus | that sux, thx guys |
| 02:38.07 | roxville | could be :/ |
| 02:38.08 | Aviatrixie | I'm thinking of switching to pclos or mepis. |
| 02:38.54 | Aviatrixie | Mepis because it uses the ubuntu repositories or pclos just because it's beautiful like elive. |
| 02:39.14 | roxville | amagus, did you do a clean install of 0.6.3? |
| 02:39.18 | hermit2 | pclos uses kde |
| 02:39.18 | goldstein | you can use any distro and get it beautiful |
| 02:39.35 | roxville | there should be a dialog coming up after inserting a DVD |
| 02:39.42 | mefistofeles | or you could use elive and find it beautiful in the first try |
| 02:39.44 | mefistofeles | :P |
| 02:39.48 | hermit2 | and my kids manage to hang it several times a day, I'm think to give them something else |
| 02:39.51 | roxville | :) |
| 02:40.04 | Aviatrixie | kde reminds me too much of windows... and I avoid anything that reminds me of windows |
| 02:40.22 | goldstein | but if you use ubuntu and you want e16.8.5 you have to hand install it, because the repos version is 16.7 :/ |
| 02:40.30 | Aviatrixie | gnome reminds me of os7 |
| 02:40.33 | mefistofeles | eh....yeah kde has the same layout as windows...but that doesnt mean that layout is wrong :P |
| 02:40.56 | roxville | thats exactly what it means! |
| 02:41.01 | roxville | :P |
| 02:41.08 | roxville | ok, jk... |
| 02:41.24 | mefistofeles | roxville: nah... that depends mostly about ppl's taste |
| 02:41.42 | roxville | or their knowledge... |
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| 02:41.58 | Detox_at_Home | hello all |
| 02:42.02 | roxville | yo Detox_at_Home :) |
| 02:42.06 | keyra | Detox_at_Home: hi |
| 02:42.06 | hermit2 | roxville, is this any help? check the second post. http://forum.freespire.org/archive/index.php/t-4569.html |
| 02:42.08 | Detox_at_Home | howdy |
| 02:42.11 | Aviatrixie | I like "different"... windows reminds me of my ex husband, who was a geek as a major IT that uses windows. He was the one that took me to the dark side. :( |
| 02:42.19 | keyra | Aviatrixie: Elive don't like windows, don't use it, is compatible with all, and only give problems |
| 02:43.35 | goldstein | and in the 8st day god create de irc bot... |
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| 02:43.57 | Aviatrixie | IF... I was a coder I'd do a multimedia distro using enlightenment |
| 02:44.04 | goldstein | Aviatrixie, what kind of geelk uses windows :p? |
| 02:44.12 | roxville | hermit2, yeah, that looks pretty good |
| 02:44.28 | goldstein | better then windowmaker like dynebolix.. |
| 02:44.33 | roxville | i'm gonna go to bed now... gotta try to get some REAL sleep tonight |
| 02:44.45 | amagus | good night, sleep deep |
| 02:44.48 | goldstein | roxville, you're getting old. |
| 02:45.05 | roxville | goldstein, and you're getting a good spanking! |
| 02:45.23 | hermit2 | 'nite roxville |
| 02:45.24 | goldstein | lol |
| 02:45.27 | goldstein | bybye |
| 02:45.29 | roxville | :) |
| 02:45.32 | roxville | nite ppl |
| 02:45.39 | hermit2 | and thanks :) |
| 02:45.43 | roxville | goldstein, was great seeing you again, bro :) |
| 02:45.47 | Aviatrixie | goldstein: well... this was back in the 90s. A year in puters is 10 in the rest of reality |
| 02:46.02 | goldstein | now i have some more free time, you ll get sick of me |
| 02:46.20 | goldstein | yes, true |
| 02:47.58 | Aviatrixie | I haven't dug too deep into elive yet... does it use rox? |
| 02:48.34 | goldstein | hum, nop |
| 02:48.45 | goldstein | the filemanager? |
| 02:48.52 | Aviatrixie | yup |
| 02:49.03 | Aviatrixie | roxville made me think of it |
| 02:49.27 | Aviatrixie | rox is a good FM |
| 02:49.40 | goldstein | no.. it comes with (lol) evidence and .. |
| 02:49.57 | Aviatrixie | pardon? |
| 02:50.20 | goldstein | fmfx ot something like that... those names you cant remember |
| 02:50.35 | Aviatrixie | oh |
| 02:50.38 | Aviatrixie | ok |
| 02:50.47 | goldstein | evidence is the enlightenment file manager |
| 02:50.51 | hermit2 | thunar |
| 02:51.03 | Aviatrixie | thunar is ok |
| 02:51.08 | goldstein | oh yes, 0.6 comes with thunar :) |
| 02:51.14 | Aviatrixie | it's an xfce fm |
| 02:51.47 | goldstein | evidence is nice, but buggy.. and has few features |
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| 02:52.51 | Aviatrixie | the thing that drew me to elive is the enlightenment DE... I'm amazed... it's gorgeous but incredibly light. |
| 02:53.02 | Detox_at_Home | yes is very noce |
| 02:53.06 | Detox_at_Home | nice |
| 02:53.25 | goldstein | :) |
| 02:53.44 | goldstein | i think e17 is too blinky :p |
| 02:53.55 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 02:53.56 | goldstein | everything shines |
| 02:54.05 | hermit2 | you can change that |
| 02:54.09 | goldstein | e16 is the thing |
| 02:55.02 | goldstein | i know i can .. |
| 02:55.51 | Aviatrixie | Like I said earlier I'm running it at this moment on an antique p2 266 klamath I picked up at my local saint vincent depaul. Stuck a couple more 128 mb sticks and an old 32 mb ati card in and a cheap comp usa sound card in... and it all works. Not only works but works as well as Puppy and DSL. |
| 02:55.59 | Aviatrixie | Amazing. |
| 02:56.13 | goldstein | :) |
| 02:56.26 | goldstein | Thanatermesis has made a great job! |
| 02:57.23 | goldstein | you re running from the cd right? |
| 02:57.32 | Aviatrixie | goldstein:... he did a fine job. |
| 02:57.47 | Aviatrixie | yes... I'm running from the cd |
| 02:58.26 | goldstein | it is also the fastest live cd i've tryed, and the fastest to boot. |
| 02:58.41 | Aviatrixie | Puppy boots faster |
| 02:58.58 | goldstein | i havnt tryed puppy :) |
| 02:59.07 | Aviatrixie | Puppy is also amazing... but it's also very win 95 |
| 02:59.24 | goldstein | i m talking of ubuntus, knoppixs, and stuff like that |
| 02:59.33 | keyra | goldstein: Ubuntu is OFF topic |
| 02:59.49 | Aviatrixie | I love Linux... ergo I try lots of distros |
| 02:59.55 | LinuxNIT | if you say it with a capital U like Ubuntu keyra shuts up |
| 03:00.01 | goldstein | lol |
| 03:00.03 | keyra | LinuxNIT: :* :) |
| 03:00.43 | goldstein | Aviatrixie, me too. i use vmware sometimes to try faster :p |
| 03:00.48 | Detox_at_Home | keyra go away |
| 03:01.00 | LinuxNIT | have you tried qemu with kqemu? |
| 03:01.04 | LinuxNIT | its runs pretty fast |
| 03:01.08 | goldstein | nop.. |
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| 03:02.43 | Aviatrixie | goldstein... I'm in the USA. Altho I love my country I do not agree with the way Microsoft does business. I feel the web (and net) belongs to the world. |
| 03:03.24 | Detox_at_Home | MS does business like any other |
| 03:03.28 | Detox_at_Home | rthe market |
| 03:03.31 | Detox_at_Home | they |
| 03:03.50 | Detox_at_Home | and convince folks their prodeuctr is better thatn annother |
| 03:04.11 | Detox_at_Home | cannot fault them for being good at marketing |
| 03:04.14 | Aviatrixie | how does one ger they from rthe? |
| 03:04.41 | Aviatrixie | detox... but their product has always sucked |
| 03:04.58 | Detox_at_Home | for a long time it fit the masses |
| 03:05.21 | Detox_at_Home | and people are willing to put up witht he blue screen of death |
| 03:05.21 | hermit2 | it still fits much of the masses |
| 03:05.21 | goldstein | Detox_at_Home, they have very _strange_ and _rude_ marketing technics |
| 03:05.29 | goldstein | they're not a normal company. |
| 03:05.36 | Detox_at_Home | what is normal? |
| 03:06.20 | Detox_at_Home | look at apple (mac) they failed terribly due to their marketing,, lack of support etc |
| 03:06.27 | Aviatrixie | I hated msdos (reminded me too much of cpm... obviously since MS stole it from them) and I hated Windows... since they stole it from Apple (who stole it from Unix!). |
| 03:06.30 | Detox_at_Home | only now are they begging to show incerase |
| 03:06.43 | goldstein | normal in the way they sometimes make really dirty moves and use monopoly technics to take over the market. thats not ethical, if nothing more.. |
| 03:06.43 | Detox_at_Home | beginning i mean |
| 03:06.56 | hermit2 | they originally convine the manufacturers they couldn't seel systems witout an OS and convinced them to bundle it... preempting near any compition to be know to the averge joe |
| 03:07.24 | Detox_at_Home | mac' are good machines but expensive and unless you are in large metro area support is non existant |
| 03:08.32 | Detox_at_Home | linux made a run for it with walmart ,, but due to fear of the unwilling-to-try-something-different-mentality ,, it never went well |
| 03:09.01 | Detox_at_Home | after using linux for 18 months now ,, I would not use a win pc unless i had to |
| 03:09.24 | Detox_at_Home | and since work buys them i ahve to sue them there |
| 03:09.50 | Detox_at_Home | however,, I have shown them all about opensource and introduced many to linux |
| 03:09.54 | Detox_at_Home | they relly like it |
| 03:10.02 | goldstein | nice job then |
| 03:10.20 | Detox_at_Home | $0.00 for abiword / OO vs $300 for OfficeXP |
| 03:10.26 | Detox_at_Home | you decide |
| 03:10.36 | Aviatrixie | walmart is the retail equivalent of M$... it wants to dominate the world regardless of the conciquenses. |
| 03:10.42 | Detox_at_Home | yes |
| 03:10.55 | Detox_at_Home | in htat i agree Wallyworld is looking to dominate |
| 03:11.23 | Detox_at_Home | again ,, it's marketing |
| 03:11.28 | goldstein | i dont know walmart that well.. (we have none of those here) |
| 03:11.36 | Detox_at_Home | convincig folks they need to shop there |
| 03:11.40 | hermit2 | your lucky |
| 03:11.44 | Aviatrixie | goldstein... where are you? |
| 03:11.52 | Detox_at_Home | goldstein where are you? |
| 03:11.53 | goldstein | portugal |
| 03:11.56 | Detox_at_Home | ok |
| 03:12.03 | LinuxNIT | shhhh |
| 03:12.06 | LinuxNIT | quiet |
| 03:12.09 | Detox_at_Home | do you have mcdonalds? |
| 03:12.12 | goldstein | :D |
| 03:12.13 | goldstein | lol |
| 03:12.15 | LinuxNIT | walmart will hear and head that way |
| 03:12.54 | goldstein | Detox_at_Home, yes, and fox on cable too. |
| 03:12.57 | Aviatrixie | I was in Dreamlinux' chat... I figured out Portuguese has nothing in common with Spanish. |
| 03:13.44 | goldstein | really. lol .. i ve been in spain for a month and everytime i could i'd speak english instead of spanish |
| 03:13.56 | Detox_at_Home | ok consider mcdonalds opening up a place beside each of its compitition and lowering prices a lot then convincing folks they have to eat tehre even if the bureger is not as good as the other place |
| 03:14.01 | Detox_at_Home | then eveyone does |
| 03:14.27 | Aviatrixie | I think we should be speaking Belgian here |
| 03:14.38 | goldstein | i mean, there are places in spain near frontier where the language is similar, but not in the bigger cities |
| 03:14.54 | Detox_at_Home | mcdonalds is multi-billion corp not because of its great burgers ,, but becasue of its consistance of product asnd marketing |
| 03:15.06 | goldstein | Detox_at_Home, i'd eat a burger now, actually... mmm |
| 03:15.20 | Aviatrixie | goldstein... the dreamlinux forum is portuguese |
| 03:15.34 | goldstein | i dont now dreamlinux... url? |
| 03:15.36 | Detox_at_Home | there are much better burgers ,, but mcdonalds is convient everywhere |
| 03:15.39 | Detox_at_Home | so folks go ther |
| 03:15.47 | hermit2 | ya, but isn't it brazilian portugese |
| 03:15.51 | Aviatrixie | except for the bits that are english |
| 03:16.06 | goldstein | hermit2, most probably :/ |
| 03:16.13 | Aviatrixie | yes it's brazilian portuguese |
| 03:16.27 | Detox_at_Home | boy am i off topic |
| 03:16.37 | goldstein | lol, everyone is. |
| 03:17.35 | Aviatrixie | goldstein... dreamlinux is prolly the only distro that can give Elive a run for it's money at the beauty parlor. |
| 03:18.03 | goldstein | ill check it. never heard of dreamlinux :/ |
| 03:18.11 | goldstein | (there are way too many distros!) |
| 03:18.21 | Detox_at_Home | dream is little known |
| 03:18.26 | hermit2 | hundreds of them |
| 03:18.27 | Detox_at_Home | small but nice |
| 03:18.58 | Aviatrixie | Dream is xfce but uses engage. |
| 03:19.00 | hermit2 | I almost tried it but couldn't tell if it came in english |
| 03:19.03 | Detox_at_Home | could we say that ubuntu isthe microsoft of linux? |
| 03:19.10 | goldstein | hermit2, i believe there are thousands, if you count those very local and specific |
| 03:19.11 | keyra | Detox_at_Home: Ubuntu is OFF topic |
| 03:19.32 | Aviatrixie | I think I like elive better tho... it is amazing |
| 03:19.33 | goldstein | Detox_at_Home, why in the world would someone say taht? |
| 03:19.54 | Detox_at_Home | they are trying to capture the linux community |
| 03:20.05 | hermit2 | I think they are modeling thier business practices after MS |
| 03:20.25 | goldstein | :| |
| 03:20.25 | Detox_at_Home | they have great PR and marketing |
| 03:20.35 | hermit2 | :) |
| 03:20.48 | Detox_at_Home | and the "unique distros within itself" concept is amazing |
| 03:21.00 | goldstein | they are creating a user base that is Good for linux and OSS in general, not only for ubuntu |
| 03:21.07 | Aviatrixie | Mark Shuttleworth is a very successful businessman. He would not have dumped millions into Ubuntu if he didn't think he could make money with it. |
| 03:21.10 | Detox_at_Home | at how the add a few opensource ithems in and then say how wonderful they aer |
| 03:21.20 | mefistofeles | of course MS is a hell of a business... doesnt mean it's good for me :P probably only good for uncle bill... would be nice to do that but with "uncle mefistofeles" |
| 03:21.31 | mefistofeles | :P |
| 03:22.02 | Aviatrixie | The important thing is to keep M$ from totally dominating the computer world |
| 03:22.07 | hermit2 | it was the first distro i tried, i could not take reading the forums, what they preached and how they acted just didn't jive for me |
| 03:22.29 | Detox_at_Home | well,,,, I have no mean thoughts towards Micro<<<ft ,, they were good at convincing folks they were the logical choice for theeir pc |
| 03:22.35 | goldstein | i think ubuntu is a great distro for beginners. then you realise you need something else and change. |
| 03:22.40 | Detox_at_Home | yes |
| 03:22.59 | Detox_at_Home | MS si industry standard for offices |
| 03:23.07 | Aviatrixie | Detox... I was a puter user starting in 82. |
| 03:23.09 | hermit2 | I'll give them that... a great stepping stone into the world of linux |
| 03:23.25 | Detox_at_Home | but after guys like us start evangelizing aboput linux ,, who knows... |
| 03:23.55 | Aviatrixie | I used TI99, Atari, Commodore, and Mac. |
| 03:24.15 | Detox_at_Home | I ahd radio shack colour computer II |
| 03:24.25 | Detox_at_Home | 64k ram |
| 03:24.29 | Aviatrixie | I only used Windows when it was given to me back in the 3.1 era. |
| 03:24.35 | hermit2 | I on the other hand have discovered my geekness late in life :P |
| 03:24.52 | Detox_at_Home | I saved for 9 months to buy enuf ram to run win 3.1 |
| 03:24.55 | Aviatrixie | I hated it... it was a cheap funky immitation of Mac os7 |
| 03:25.06 | Detox_at_Home | yes agree |
| 03:25.28 | Detox_at_Home | wher i live ,, is very rural ,, and mac suers aer very far apart |
| 03:25.37 | Detox_at_Home | so to get one was to be alone |
| 03:25.54 | Detox_at_Home | being with a computer before the www |
| 03:26.14 | Aviatrixie | and the web is not the net |
| 03:26.26 | Detox_at_Home | no not according to al gore |
| 03:26.31 | Detox_at_Home | cause he invented it |
| 03:26.36 | Aviatrixie | LOL |
| 03:26.39 | Detox_at_Home | haha |
| 03:27.16 | goldstein | lol |
| 03:27.16 | Detox_at_Home | when i got my first 386 sx i ran a bbs with a 2400 baud modem |
| 03:27.35 | Detox_at_Home | moved up to 14.4 and thought i was hot stuff |
| 03:27.40 | Aviatrixie | btw... mestopheles or whatever the coder of elive calls himself should drop the propoganda in his links on the browser. |
| 03:28.02 | Detox_at_Home | send him a not regarding that |
| 03:28.05 | Detox_at_Home | note |
| 03:28.15 | goldstein | Thanatermesis |
| 03:28.15 | goldstein | lol |
| 03:28.34 | Aviatrixie | It's getting bad vibes in reviews |
| 03:28.49 | Detox_at_Home | can you reference one? |
| 03:28.54 | Detox_at_Home | link? |
| 03:29.20 | Aviatrixie | Besides... I never voted for Bush Jr. but I also don't think it's appropriate on a distro. |
| 03:29.29 | Detox_at_Home | yea agree |
| 03:29.44 | Detox_at_Home | linux needs to be about linux |
| 03:29.50 | Detox_at_Home | not politics |
| 03:29.59 | Aviatrixie | Detox... just go to Distroreview and click on the first link. |
| 03:30.26 | Detox_at_Home | is .com? |
| 03:30.36 | Aviatrixie | yes |
| 03:31.38 | Detox_at_Home | distroreview.com ? |
| 03:31.42 | Aviatrixie | the war sux and is wrong... but it should not be part of a distro. |
| 03:32.02 | goldstein | what r u talking? |
| 03:32.05 | goldstein | where is that? |
| 03:32.21 | Aviatrixie | explain |
| 03:32.21 | LinuxNIT | lol... so i used mandriva for a while... very nice excpet one thing.... rpm based... here is an exapmle of why i stopped :D |
| 03:32.24 | LinuxNIT | http://www.pastebin.ca/362918 |
| 03:32.30 | keyra | LinuxNIT: :) |
| 03:32.36 | Detox_at_Home | cant find any review there |
| 03:32.38 | Detox_at_Home | only ads |
| 03:32.44 | goldstein | yes.. |
| 03:34.07 | Aviatrixie | Detox... go to the top 100 distros... Elive is in the 20s... 27 earlier tonight. Click it, go to reviews and click the first one. Linux.com as I recall. |
| 03:35.21 | Aviatrixie | I have little experience with RPMs... but I like Debian and Synaptic. |
| 03:35.28 | goldstein | Aviatrixie, talking about distro review or distrowatch? |
| 03:35.29 | keyra | Aviatrixie: Debian r00lz ! |
| 03:36.02 | Detox_at_Home | went to distrowatch to find it |
| 03:36.26 | Aviatrixie | goldstein: distrowatch... my bad :-/ |
| 03:36.34 | goldstein | aaaaaaahhhh! |
| 03:36.35 | goldstein | lol |
| 03:36.45 | goldstein | distroreview.com also exists... |
| 03:36.51 | goldstein | ads ads ads ads |
| 03:38.07 | Aviatrixie | well... we both know distrowatch is the real deal |
| 03:39.39 | goldstein | eheh |
| 03:40.25 | Aviatrixie | goldstein... are you near Gebralair? (or how everyou spell it?) |
| 03:41.05 | goldstein | thats in the south. i live in the north |
| 03:41.36 | Aviatrixie | I've always wanted to go there |
| 03:42.04 | goldstein | anyway, im almost near... 700km to the south and then a litle to the east |
| 03:42.15 | Aviatrixie | close |
| 03:43.08 | goldstein | in an american scale, yes. |
| 03:43.33 | Aviatrixie | Europe is as big as usa |
| 03:43.59 | Aviatrixie | And Europe is incorporating like the states |
| 03:44.09 | goldstein | yes but is divided in independent countries |
| 03:44.13 | goldstein | is not the same thing |
| 03:44.20 | Aviatrixie | I know |
| 03:44.38 | Aviatrixie | We are both about to be eaten up by Asia |
| 03:44.39 | goldstein | very different cultures, languages, people.. |
| 03:45.02 | goldstein | european union is a good thing but is going to take many many years to come close to the states |
| 03:45.47 | goldstein | brb |
| 03:46.28 | Detox_at_Home | well as far as distro's go .. elive rocks |
| 03:46.50 | Aviatrixie | elive is a good distro. |
| 03:47.03 | Aviatrixie | Detox... where are you? |
| 03:47.04 | Detox_at_Home | I have tried many ,, most need large pc's |
| 03:47.12 | Detox_at_Home | here whre are you? |
| 03:47.36 | Detox_at_Home | north carolina usa |
| 03:47.45 | Aviatrixie | I'm on an Island in the Ohio River in Pennsylvania USA. |
| 03:47.59 | Detox_at_Home | the ohio has island? |
| 03:48.06 | Aviatrixie | My son is in NC. |
| 03:48.23 | Detox_at_Home | the river is not wide enuf for an island? |
| 03:48.29 | Detox_at_Home | military? |
| 03:48.32 | Aviatrixie | The Ohio has a lot of rivers. |
| 03:48.32 | Detox_at_Home | you son? |
| 03:49.17 | Aviatrixie | Yes... he moved to Charlotte after he graduated from college. |
| 03:49.35 | Detox_at_Home | ahh I have some friends who live there |
| 03:49.41 | Detox_at_Home | that is about 8 hours from me |
| 03:49.53 | Detox_at_Home | I am 30 min from the ocean |
| 03:50.26 | Aviatrixie | We lived in Florida before we divorced. |
| 03:50.43 | Detox_at_Home | The Marine Corps invited me here in 71 and when I retired, we decided to stay |
| 03:50.44 | Aviatrixie | About 15 miles from the ocean. |
| 03:51.18 | Aviatrixie | You're a... jarhead? ;) |
| 03:52.04 | Detox_at_Home | yup and proud of it |
| 03:52.06 | Aviatrixie | sorry... I had to say that. I'm airforce. A pilot in fact. |
| 03:52.13 | Detox_at_Home | so sorry |
| 03:52.19 | Aviatrixie | LOL |
| 03:52.26 | Aviatrixie | I'm proud too |
| 03:52.36 | Detox_at_Home | retired? |
| 03:52.43 | Aviatrixie | yeah |
| 03:52.55 | Detox_at_Home | any time in Viet Nam? |
| 03:53.04 | Aviatrixie | too young. |
| 03:53.07 | Detox_at_Home | ahh |
| 03:53.11 | Aviatrixie | barely tho. |
| 03:53.35 | Detox_at_Home | we had airforce pilots land at our field from timfe to time |
| 03:53.36 | Aviatrixie | Besides, they didn't draft women in those day. |
| 03:53.40 | Detox_at_Home | nice guys |
| 03:54.00 | Detox_at_Home | but couldnt remeber to take their helmuts off the rail before closing cockpits .. |
| 03:54.13 | Aviatrixie | Well... |
| 03:54.14 | Detox_at_Home | would always laugh at that |
| 03:54.34 | Aviatrixie | I watched GI Jane again the other day. |
| 03:54.34 | Detox_at_Home | they would blame the fact that the ground crew was suppose to d it |
| 03:54.45 | goldstein | bye ppl |
| 03:54.46 | Detox_at_Home | never saw it |
| 03:54.50 | Detox_at_Home | nite |
| 03:54.59 | Aviatrixie | niters goldstein |
| 03:55.06 | Aviatrixie | kisses |
| 03:55.15 | goldstein | :) see you tomorrow |
| 03:55.22 | Aviatrixie | k |
| 03:55.56 | Detox_at_Home | getting late here also ,,, have 0500 wakeup call |
| 03:56.02 | Detox_at_Home | have a great nite |
| 03:56.05 | Aviatrixie | military jocks are always funny |
| 03:56.07 | Detox_at_Home | good meeting you |
| 03:56.09 | Aviatrixie | ok |
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| 05:32.13 | wasynyt | good morning people |
| 05:37.51 | Aviatrixie | good morn |
| 05:38.03 | wasynyt | how are you doing ? |
| 05:38.11 | Aviatrixie | I'm fine |
| 05:38.34 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 05:38.41 | Aviatrixie | sorta bumbed... my puppy hd install just died |
| 05:38.46 | wasynyt | :S |
| 05:39.00 | wasynyt | what killed it ? |
| 05:39.29 | Aviatrixie | not sure... may be SW... but I'm thinking it's HW |
| 05:39.35 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 05:40.04 | Aviatrixie | Puppy is pretty well put together |
| 05:40.15 | wasynyt | i have not tried it |
| 05:40.55 | Aviatrixie | I'm running it on a sad P2 266 Klamath server I picked up at a local thrift. |
| 05:41.11 | wasynyt | and it run well ? |
| 05:41.53 | Aviatrixie | Yes... it ran better than Ubuntu on my main box |
| 05:42.33 | wasynyt | hmm nice.. maybe i should give it a shot... but first i need a old box :D |
| 05:43.34 | Aviatrixie | lots of old boxes at thrifts... I paid $25 US for mine. Included monitor, mouse and keyboard. |
| 05:44.12 | wasynyt | yeah,, i think i might buy one of those.. but i would like to find one with either dual p2 or dual p3 |
| 05:44.18 | wasynyt | that would be nice |
| 05:44.33 | Aviatrixie | not for $25 |
| 05:44.43 | wasynyt | yeah but for 100 or 150 |
| 05:45.26 | Aviatrixie | for 150 you can build a dual core w/ ddr2 |
| 05:45.36 | wasynyt | ? |
| 05:46.07 | wasynyt | for a 150 euros you cant have anything new here |
| 05:46.12 | Aviatrixie | newegg has cutting edge stuff cheap |
| 05:46.27 | wasynyt | cheapest celeron junksters cost here 300 to 400... |
| 05:46.29 | Aviatrixie | I'm talking dollars |
| 05:46.41 | wasynyt | i am living in finland |
| 05:46.46 | wasynyt | so no dollars here |
| 05:47.46 | Aviatrixie | geez... Newegg has AMD 2800+ for $29 here |
| 05:48.23 | wasynyt | processor or whole comp ? |
| 05:49.01 | Aviatrixie | Stick it in an Asus Vintage box and stick in a 512 stick and you have a working PC for $150 |
| 05:49.09 | wasynyt | heh |
| 05:50.07 | Aviatrixie | At the moment I'm using a 12 year old PC |
| 05:50.19 | wasynyt | mine is not that old |
| 05:50.29 | Aviatrixie | good for you |
| 05:50.33 | wasynyt | heh |
| 05:50.40 | wasynyt | well i am only 19... |
| 05:50.40 | Aviatrixie | Mine is working fine |
| 05:50.47 | wasynyt | so it would be odd |
| 05:50.50 | Aviatrixie | I am using Elive |
| 05:51.12 | Aviatrixie | I'm 53 |
| 05:51.12 | wasynyt | i am using opensuse 10.2 at the moment |
| 05:51.22 | wasynyt | you are a bit older than me |
| 05:51.39 | Aviatrixie | My children are older than you |
| 05:51.44 | wasynyt | nice |
| 05:52.12 | Aviatrixie | not nice |
| 05:52.21 | wasynyt | huh why ? |
| 05:52.22 | Aviatrixie | It's just the way it is |
| 05:52.27 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 05:53.16 | Aviatrixie | Are your parents still together? |
| 05:53.31 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 05:53.41 | wasynyt | i am living with them at the moment.. |
| 05:53.50 | Aviatrixie | good for them |
| 05:53.53 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 05:54.05 | Aviatrixie | too many people divorce |
| 05:54.34 | wasynyt | that is odd... |
| 05:54.44 | Aviatrixie | it just is |
| 05:55.04 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 05:55.29 | Aviatrixie | so... you joined the army |
| 05:55.45 | wasynyt | heh it not that much a choice in finland... |
| 05:55.58 | wasynyt | it is either civil service, army or jail |
| 05:56.05 | Aviatrixie | are you ready to take a life? |
| 05:56.35 | wasynyt | hmm dunno.. i have to see :D |
| 05:58.26 | Aviatrixie | I think being in Finland you don't have much to worry about. |
| 05:58.39 | wasynyt | heh that could very well be |
| 05:58.57 | wasynyt | it is a good country to start up... but taxes are a bit high |
| 05:59.44 | Aviatrixie | My best friend in high school (secondary school) was from Finland. |
| 05:59.54 | wasynyt | :D |
| 06:00.23 | Aviatrixie | Her name was Annie. Her mother was Vippie. |
| 06:00.35 | Aviatrixie | She married a GI. |
| 06:01.08 | Aviatrixie | Well... It was pronounced Vippie. |
| 06:01.13 | wasynyt | ahh ok |
| 06:01.23 | Aviatrixie | I never knew the spelling. |
| 06:01.30 | wasynyt | heh |
| 06:02.02 | Aviatrixie | How would a Finn spell Vippie? |
| 06:03.02 | wasynyt | what i could think of could be Virpi... that sounds similiar.. but there is probably orhers too... i just cant figure those out this early morning |
| 06:03.43 | Aviatrixie | maybe it was Virpi |
| 06:04.07 | Aviatrixie | It was almost 40 years ago |
| 06:04.14 | wasynyt | that name is old |
| 06:04.22 | Aviatrixie | I'm old |
| 06:04.25 | wasynyt | and it might be a little hard to remember |
| 06:04.26 | wasynyt | :D |
| 06:05.54 | Aviatrixie | what time is it in Finland? |
| 06:05.56 | wasynyt | but now i have to go.. see you later |
| 06:05.58 | wasynyt | 0813 |
| 06:06.32 | wasynyt | yeaterday i woke up 1244 |
| 06:06.39 | Aviatrixie | k... nice to meet you, mr. Finn ;) |
| 06:06.46 | wasynyt | heh |
| 06:07.11 | wasynyt | if you stay in this chanel we will meet again |
| 06:07.35 | Aviatrixie | I like elive... I'll prolly be back |
| 06:08.06 | Aviatrixie | 19.... damn you're young |
| 06:09.41 | wasynyt | :P |
| 06:12.14 | wasynyt | :P |
| 06:12.25 | wasynyt | apt net |
| 06:12.27 | apt | it has been said that net is a tool allowing a better usage of time than sleep |
| 06:12.49 | wasynyt | has to be good then |
| 06:12.49 | wasynyt | :D |
| 06:13.46 | Aviatrixie | I'd love to chat with the man that created Elive |
| 06:14.15 | Aviatrixie | I think he must be young... and very talented |
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| 06:56.24 | Leprehaun | anysign of life ? |
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| 12:34.23 | roxville | good morning ppl :) |
| 12:34.45 | roxville | whoa, not many here... netsplit or something? |
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| 12:39.39 | roxville | lol, or everybody is rebooting to enjoy the graphical grub :D |
| 12:41.30 | wasynyt | :D good morning roxville |
| 12:43.45 | roxville | huomenta, wasynyt :) |
| 12:43.56 | wasynyt | hyvää huomenta |
| 12:44.10 | roxville | ya got enough snow in finland now? |
| 12:44.44 | wasynyt | hmm one could say that :D |
| 12:45.03 | roxville | :D |
| 12:45.55 | roxville | i read yesterday that january was thewarmest january since they started measuring... possibly in a long, long, long time |
| 12:46.13 | roxville | but february/march will make up for it :) |
| 12:46.29 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 12:47.58 | roxville | or, so it seems |
| 12:48.08 | wasynyt | heh |
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| 13:14.06 | wasynyt | juUstotankki1 |
| 13:14.08 | wasynyt | :S |
| 13:15.56 | roxville | LOL |
| 13:16.06 | wasynyt | heh |
| 13:16.13 | roxville | cheese-tank? |
| 13:16.19 | wasynyt | heh yeah |
| 13:16.26 | wasynyt | the best |
| 13:16.26 | roxville | ok... |
| 13:16.43 | wasynyt | no need to |
| 13:16.51 | roxville | are you sure? |
| 13:17.02 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 13:17.10 | roxville | ok |
| 13:17.27 | roxville | hehe |
| 13:18.07 | wasynyt | why the fuck my samba wont just fucking work |
| 13:19.02 | roxville | good question |
| 13:19.09 | wasynyt | :S |
| 13:19.12 | roxville | too cold maybe? |
| 13:19.21 | wasynyt | apt heat up |
| 13:19.29 | roxville | lol |
| 13:20.27 | wasynyt | i am in such a good mood |
| 13:21.15 | roxville | apt-get install heater-with-"Ei saa peitää" |
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| 13:22.25 | roxville | hello india! |
| 13:22.36 | roxville | how are you this fine evening, Sup3rkiddo :) |
| 13:23.00 | roxville | it's morning here, though... so i don't know how fine the evening is gonna be |
| 13:23.01 | Sup3rkiddo | roxville: doing great thank you |
| 13:23.16 | Sup3rkiddo | roxville: hehe...will be fine |
| 13:23.21 | roxville | :) |
| 13:23.43 | wasynyt | ARGGHAAAFDAKKKKKKKKKGLÖf |
| 13:24.21 | roxville | have you had any chances to look at EFL or edje or any of the e17 stuff? |
| 13:25.17 | roxville | the "GLÖf" at the end tells me this is a TRUE emergency, wasynyt !! |
| 13:25.48 | Sup3rkiddo | roxville: no...been really busy with my semester..but why isnt E in google SOC this year?... |
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| 13:25.59 | wasynyt_mac | the fucking shit |
| 13:26.20 | wasynyt_mac | damn i do hate these crappy machines that wont fucking work.. and useless diag progs |
| 13:26.21 | roxville | Sup3rkiddo, i have no idea... would be cool, though :) |
| 13:26.32 | wasynyt_mac | apt shot wasynyt's comps |
| 13:26.52 | roxville | what we'd need, is more apps ported from GTK to ETK |
| 13:27.22 | roxville | there seems to be an app in the making for helping out with that |
| 13:27.50 | Sup3rkiddo | enhance was so good...but looks like development has stopped :(.... |
| 13:28.15 | wasynyt_mac | apt why |
| 13:28.29 | apt | Because! |
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| 13:28.37 | wasynyt_mac | apt thanks |
| 13:28.37 | apt | wasynyt_mac: de nada |
| 13:29.16 | roxville | oh, enhance, yes, that was it! |
| 13:29.29 | roxville | lol |
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| 13:29.59 | roxville | Sup3rkiddo, it happens because the devs start concentrating on other projects |
| 13:30.02 | Madtast | Guys |
| 13:30.11 | Madtast | Its Been Awhile |
| 13:30.14 | roxville | and there aren't a lot of e17 devs out there... |
| 13:30.33 | Sup3rkiddo | roxville: yeah...but it was heading in a right direction...using glade with enhance was so efficient.. |
| 13:30.36 | Madtast | I Want The Newest Elive Download |
| 13:30.48 | Madtast | Even If Its Kinda In Development |
| 13:31.12 | Sup3rkiddo | i would like to volunteer for the enhance thing...but first i need some dip in EFL waters....edje wasnt happening for me |
| 13:31.32 | roxville | Sup3rkiddo, yeah... not that i ever used it... |
| 13:31.44 | roxville | hehe |
| 13:32.31 | Madtast | Is There Anything I Can Volenteer For? |
| 13:32.32 | Sup3rkiddo | roxville: well...i did play around enhance once...but ewl was getting more attention than etk |
| 13:32.32 | Madtast | I Would Love To Help With Elive.... |
| 13:32.44 | wasynyt_mac | humm |
| 13:33.14 | roxville | Sup3rkiddo, yeah, they seem to be concentrating so much on new stuff, that the stuff they have made never get to be used much |
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| 13:33.41 | Detox_at_Work | hello all |
| 13:34.02 | Detox_at_Work | is there an ip for wget to get the new build of elive? |
| 13:34.06 | Sup3rkiddo | imo..etk was loads simpler with its gtk'ish syntax..i loved it.. |
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| 13:43.25 | Madtast | What Do You Think Of 0.6.3 Release |
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| 14:57.34 | Madtast | Hey |
| 14:57.42 | Madtast | I Have A Question |
| 14:58.01 | Madtast | Is It Hard To Set Up Wine On Elive? |
| 14:58.34 | Madtast | My Mother Want To Use Elive But She Needs MGI Photosweat To Be Installed |
| 14:59.18 | Madtast | Photosweet |
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| 15:37.38 | amagus | hey, does anyone use the screen saver: electricsheep? |
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| 15:49.40 | wizard123 | Madtast: is it windows app? |
| 15:49.50 | amagus | win/nix/mac |
| 15:49.52 | Madtast | Yea |
| 15:50.06 | amagus | it works on my win, but not E |
| 15:50.15 | amagus | it gets stuck at the downloading stage |
| 15:50.19 | Madtast | I Want To Know If It Wil Work On E |
| 15:50.23 | wizard123 | nix app and does not work? |
| 15:50.24 | Madtast | I Mean Wine |
| 15:50.27 | amagus | im reinstalling the program, tryin to figure out what happened |
| 15:50.37 | wizard123 | o_O |
| 15:50.42 | amagus | lol i kno right |
| 15:50.48 | Madtast | ... |
| 15:50.51 | amagus | it was probably me, how i installed and configured it |
| 15:51.01 | amagus | it should work in E |
| 15:51.11 | Madtast | Ok |
| 15:51.13 | amagus | and idk if it will work in wine, hypothetically yes |
| 15:51.30 | wizard123 | so is it for nix too or not? |
| 15:51.36 | amagus | all 3 |
| 15:51.41 | amagus | win/nix/mac |
| 15:51.43 | Madtast | No? |
| 15:51.46 | amagus | google it |
| 15:51.47 | Madtast | Are You Guys Talking To Me? |
| 15:51.53 | wizard123 | yup |
| 15:51.54 | Madtast | I Think I Solved My Problem |
| 15:52.00 | Madtast | I Can Run Wine |
| 15:52.01 | amagus | lol |
| 15:52.14 | Madtast | If I Have Any Problems With The Program I Will Let You Know THen |
| 15:52.17 | amagus | u can run in on nix tho too, so u dont need wine, unless yr using it for other purposes |
| 15:52.24 | Madtast | ? |
| 15:52.25 | amagus | thx |
| 15:52.30 | Madtast | There Is A Nix Version? |
| 15:52.38 | wizard123 | amagus said that |
| 15:52.53 | Madtast | Ok. Where Do I Find That |
| 15:53.03 | amagus | apt-get install electricsheep |
| 15:53.05 | Madtast | I Googled It |
| 15:53.17 | amagus | http://electricsheep.org |
| 15:53.18 | amagus | it is sick |
| 15:53.46 | amagus | u kno how to use the console Madtast? |
| 15:53.56 | Madtast | Of Couse |
| 15:54.01 | Madtast | Course* |
| 15:54.05 | Madtast | Im A Progammer |
| 15:54.24 | wizard123 | o_O |
| 15:55.30 | Madtast | Just Because Im 13 Dose Not Mean I Dont Know how To Program |
| 15:55.32 | amagus | lol sry |
| 15:55.51 | wizard123 | i haven't said that :] |
| 15:56.05 | Madtast | I Know Im Sorry |
| 15:56.09 | wizard123 | i was thinking on what does programming has to console :D |
| 15:56.13 | Madtast | I Want To Help Out With Elive. |
| 15:56.18 | wizard123 | ok, never mind |
| 15:56.20 | Madtast | lol. |
| 15:56.26 | Madtast | How DO I Compile C Apps? |
| 15:56.33 | Madtast | lol. If I Cant Use The Console |
| 15:56.52 | Madtast | Anyway I Wanted To Also Help Out With Elive |
| 15:56.55 | wizard123 | you can use some kind of project manager |
| 15:56.59 | Madtast | Its Really A Great Operating System |
| 15:57.02 | wizard123 | ^^ |
| 15:58.16 | Madtast | Project Manager You Mean Like Ajuntia ? |
| 15:58.36 | wizard123 | or kdevelop |
| 15:58.42 | Madtast | Ewww |
| 15:58.44 | wizard123 | or just makefile |
| 15:58.57 | Madtast | I Dont Even Know Make Its Sad |
| 15:59.00 | Madtast | I Should Learn It |
| 15:59.12 | Madtast | Ajauntia Makes Makefiles |
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| 15:59.27 | wizard123 | through automake/autoconf |
| 15:59.29 | wizard123 | hi adamant1988 |
| 15:59.47 | Madtast | I Have A Guitar |
| 15:59.51 | Madtast | Just Started Learning It |
| 16:00.13 | adamant1988 | hello wizard123 |
| 16:00.19 | wizard123 | Madtast: it's easy ;) |
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| 16:16.28 | roxville | gonna take my daughter out for a few hours, so my wife can sleep |
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| 16:17.41 | wizard123 | uuuggghhh |
| 16:19.22 | adamant1988 | yes wizard123 ? |
| 16:19.50 | wizard123 | something is wrong with my connection |
| 16:19.54 | wizard123 | not good |
| 16:20.09 | adamant1988 | wizard123: define "something" |
| 16:20.17 | wizard123 | disconnection? |
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| 16:22.04 | wizard123 | hi PrinceAMD |
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| 16:26.12 | PrinceAMD | wizard123 hi |
| 16:26.14 | PrinceAMD | what's up |
| 16:26.39 | Madtast | Hey PrinceAMD |
| 16:29.43 | PrinceAMD | hey Mastast |
| 16:29.48 | PrinceAMD | how are u |
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| 16:33.52 | Madtast | What Keys Do You Press To Swich Apps In Elive |
| 16:34.10 | Madtast | Alt Esc? |
| 16:34.25 | Madtast | You Know Like You Do In Mac |
| 16:35.04 | cornelius[cz] | alt tab does not work? |
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| 16:46.59 | wizard123 | hiho |
| 16:47.02 | wizard123 | once again |
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| 16:48.55 | Madtast | Hey Guys |
| 16:49.32 | Madtast | Is There A Desktop Modual That Allows E17 To Be More Then A Window Manager And Displays The Desktops Content |
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| 16:58.14 | Madtast | Hey |
| 16:58.19 | Madtast | Grub 18 Error |
| 16:58.34 | Madtast | ??? |
| 17:01.22 | wizard123 | :] |
| 17:01.29 | wizard123 | you screwed something :P |
| 17:07.25 | Madtast | ? |
| 17:07.47 | Madtast | Well... Ppl Say If I make A 32Meg Ext2 Partion It Will Fix It |
| 17:07.51 | Madtast | But No Luck So Far |
| 17:08.16 | Madtast | I Made An 100 Meg Partition |
| 17:08.22 | Madtast | They Should Be The Same Thing? |
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| 17:24.18 | Madtast | Can Someone Help Me? |
| 17:25.05 | amagus | sup |
| 17:25.25 | amagus | what is your problem? |
| 17:25.43 | Madtast | I Have A Grub 18 Error When I Install And Boot |
| 17:25.49 | Madtast | Im using 0.6.3 |
| 17:25.52 | amagus | do u have one partition |
| 17:25.57 | Madtast | No |
| 17:26.04 | amagus | well, how did you partition it? |
| 17:26.10 | amagus | and u installed grub where? |
| 17:26.14 | Madtast | I Thought It Was Because I Did Not Put It On The Frist Partition |
| 17:26.24 | Madtast | I have 3 Partitons |
| 17:26.34 | amagus | what are they and their order? |
| 17:26.42 | Madtast | I Installed It Further On The Hard Disk Like hdb2 |
| 17:26.56 | Madtast | hda1 (31Gig) |
| 17:27.09 | Madtast | hda2 (39Gig) |
| 17:27.26 | Madtast | swap-space(4Gig) |
| 17:27.32 | amagus | for example mine is: 1: elivesystem 2: linux swap 3: /home ; and i have grub installed on MBR. |
| 17:27.33 | Madtast | I Installed Grub On hda2 |
| 17:27.38 | Madtast | I Think Thats My Problem |
| 17:27.39 | amagus | hmm |
| 17:27.46 | Madtast | Oh |
| 17:28.01 | Madtast | hda2 Is Elive (The Root System) |
| 17:28.05 | Madtast | And hda1 Is Home |
| 17:28.23 | amagus | yeah, it should ask u if u want to install on mbr, hda, or not at all, or automatically, i forget. but try mbr, i never had problmes with it, otherwise try the frist partition. good luck :) |
| 17:28.29 | Madtast | Because Bios Starts From The First Sector Dont I Need To Install it On The First HD |
| 17:28.41 | amagus | yes i believe so |
| 17:28.45 | Madtast | I Did |
| 17:28.46 | Madtast | lol. |
| 17:28.53 | Madtast | MBR Gives The Same Error |
| 17:28.54 | Madtast | lol |
| 17:28.57 | amagus | yeah i read that somwhere, but try mbr, let me know |
| 17:29.02 | Madtast | One More Thing |
| 17:29.03 | amagus | oh whats the error? |
| 17:29.07 | Madtast | Can I Do An Upgrade |
| 17:29.21 | Madtast | And Still Choose The Bootloader Settings |
| 17:29.27 | Madtast | Error 18 |
| 17:29.30 | Madtast | Thats All It Says |
| 17:29.44 | amagus | hmm, sux, i dislike thsoe errors that dont tell you anything... |
| 17:30.25 | amagus | umm, upgrade elive? |
| 17:30.25 | wizard123 | google it |
| 17:30.25 | Madtast | I Ddi |
| 17:30.25 | Madtast | Did* |
| 17:30.26 | Madtast | Tried Doing What They Said |
| 17:30.26 | Madtast | Make A 32Meg Ext2 Partition |
| 17:30.26 | Madtast | lol |
| 17:30.27 | Madtast | Let Me Try Something |
| 17:30.30 | Madtast | I Will Be Back |
| 17:30.30 | Madtast | Ok |
| 17:30.32 | amagus | yeah when u do, you can change your bootloader file so that the bootloader displays your new kernel. |
| 17:30.39 | amagus | good luck! |
| 17:33.30 | Madtast | Thanks |
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| 17:47.25 | bouba_ | hi all :) |
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| 17:56.12 | Madtast | Hello. |
| 17:56.19 | Madtast | I Think I Fixed My Boot Problem |
| 17:56.43 | Madtast | I Think It Would Be Good For Me To Share What I Did So People With The Same Problem Can Fix This Error |
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| 17:58.23 | Madtast | Grub Error 18 States Your Computers BIOS Dose Not Accept INT13 Calls... To Fix This Problem You Need To Create An Ext2 Boot Partition That Has The Boot Flag |
| 17:58.27 | Madtast | That Clears It Up. |
| 17:59.55 | Madtast | I Recommend Elive Have Its System Find Out If It Accepts Thease Calls At Boot And Durring Install Prompt The User About The Error That May Occur If You Do Not Have A Boot Partiton |
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| 18:01.27 | amagus | nice find madtast |
| 18:02.50 | Madtast | Thanks |
| 18:03.54 | bouba_ | if this is a bug you can report it @ bugs.thanatermesis.org :) |
| 18:04.14 | Madtast | Ok |
| 18:04.38 | bouba_ | good. write also how fix it :D eheheh |
| 18:05.01 | Madtast | I Am |
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| 18:24.00 | Madtast | Its Up! |
| 18:24.33 | amagus | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:25.07 | goldstein | hello |
| 18:25.22 | goldstein | keyra: ubuntu, windows, microsoft |
| 18:26.21 | goldstein | hum.. the bot's sleeping. |
| 18:26.28 | bouba_ | eheheheh you kill keyra in this way:D |
| 18:26.32 | amagus | is keyra the bot? |
| 18:26.47 | amagus | i thought it was a dif name? |
| 18:26.48 | bouba_ | no:D |
| 18:26.51 | Madtast | APT Is A Bot |
| 18:26.54 | amagus | apt lol |
| 18:26.56 | apt | lol is probably stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 18:27.00 | goldstein | apt is a good bot. |
| 18:27.00 | apt | goldstein: :) |
| 18:27.04 | Madtast | I Think Im Gona Add My Own Bot Soon |
| 18:27.52 | goldstein | gotta love it. |
| 18:28.00 | Madtast | Haha |
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| 18:35.40 | TastBot | Hello There! |
| 18:35.40 | TastBot | I'm Veltix The BOT. |
| 18:35.47 | Madtast | Yeah! |
| 18:35.51 | Madtast | Thats My Bot! |
| 18:36.07 | Madtast | TastBot |
| 18:36.16 | goldstein | lol |
| 18:36.47 | Madtast | I Think Im Gona Edit Him Some More! |
| 18:36.48 | Madtast | lol |
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| 19:29.47 | Kokosolo | thana estas?? |
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| 19:51.13 | Madtast | You Know |
| 19:51.32 | Madtast | Someone Could Put Look 1000 Bots On This And Have Them All Say Hi Every 5 Seconds |
| 19:51.34 | Madtast | lol. |
| 19:51.36 | Madtast | That Would Suck |
| 19:51.50 | Madtast | I Didn't Just Try That... |
| 19:51.51 | Madtast | lol |
| 19:51.56 | Madtast | Not On This Chat Anyway |
| 19:52.13 | Madtast | EThere Is Not OPS To Remove THem So I Would Not Try It |
| 20:01.50 | amagus | apt salvia divinorum |
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| 20:38.29 | Leprehaun | hello all :) |
| 20:38.52 | goldstein | hi |
| 20:39.21 | Leprehaun | much being talked about ... if anything ??? |
| 20:40.50 | Leprehaun | ok guess not then .. :S |
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| 20:50.13 | Tronyx | hello |
| 20:50.14 | Leprehaun | hello :) |
| 20:50.48 | Tronyx | leprehaun, are you by chance familiar with bash scripting? |
| 20:50.58 | trog | i am |
| 20:51.09 | Leprehaun | naw sorry .. iv just moved to *.nix :S |
| 20:51.22 | Tronyx | ah trog, i'm in a bit of a bind, got a minute or 2 to help out? |
| 20:51.27 | trog | sure |
| 20:51.32 | Tronyx | thanks, mind if I PM you? |
| 20:51.38 | trog | not at all |
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| 21:16.08 | Tronyx | this whole bash scripting thing is not going well... |
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| 21:25.10 | Leprehaun | trog if your not busy i have ? |
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| 21:35.46 | WhiteStar | heya :) *installs elive for the first time* |
| 21:37.12 | Leprehaun | yep its a nice desktop :) |
| 21:38.23 | WhiteStar | i just hope i don't fuck up my partitions while installing it over ubuntu... i *might* need the xp working for university ;) |
| 21:38.52 | Leprehaun | lol |
| 21:39.00 | Leprehaun | i know the feeling |
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| 21:42.11 | WhiteStar | care to help me with some questions? :) |
| 21:42.31 | Leprehaun | sorry im pretty new to .nix ... dont really know that much .. |
| 21:42.32 | amagus | hello all |
| 21:42.39 | amagus | hit me up |
| 21:42.42 | amagus | lol |
| 21:42.44 | WhiteStar | hey |
| 21:42.45 | WhiteStar | hrhr |
| 21:43.11 | WhiteStar | i currently have a 2,7gb ubuntu partition and some 500mb of swap |
| 21:43.30 | WhiteStar | shuld i just clean those and use them with elive? |
| 21:44.00 | WhiteStar | or would another configuration make more sense |
| 21:44.35 | amagus | yeah, but you might want to make a /home partition |
| 21:44.37 | amagus | would u? |
| 21:45.58 | WhiteStar | i thougt about it, but i'm mainly on XP/NTFS anyway and just playing and learning linux... so... i guess it would make sense if i made it an FAT drive so i could also exchange data and firefox/thunderbird profiles... sound good? |
| 21:46.23 | amagus | do what thou wilt |
| 21:47.03 | rab | fat sucks, use ext3 and get a ext3 driver for xp! |
| 21:47.22 | amagus | i didnt know u had win, i dont, so i partition specifically for linux. you just need to keep in mind the boot process, what OS u want to load yanno. |
| 21:47.52 | amagus | yeah i was flinchin when i read FAT32, lol try resiers or ext3 yeah |
| 21:48.17 | WhiteStar | yeah, but that would mean i could only mount the ext3 drive from either win or linux, which sucks when you want to use hibernation |
| 21:48.41 | WhiteStar | win can't read reiserfs at all, or am i wrong? |
| 21:48.56 | amagus | idk, so go with ext3 |
| 21:49.09 | Leprehaun | anyone help with slight logon problem to enlightenment :S |
| 21:49.28 | Seablade | what is the problem? |
| 21:50.30 | WhiteStar | just trying to figure out what partition configuration would be best for using XP and elive at the same time |
| 21:50.45 | Leprehaun | ok i upgraded to the development versipon following instructions on dev website ... no problems ... rebooted entranced starts ... crashes back to console ????? |
| 21:51.23 | Seablade | if you are referring to for the root partition(Glancing back I think you are) take the other's advice, go with ext and put an ext driver on your windows partition if you need. Or if you just want to share small data between them, make a seperate FAT partition is another possibility |
| 21:51.32 | Leprehaun | think it was a newer version than whats on the instructions |
| 21:51.42 | Seablade | Leprehaun, on the console run entranced and tell me what it says? |
| 21:51.53 | Seablade | as root that is |
| 21:51.54 | Leprehaun | hold .. |
| 21:52.12 | Leprehaun | ill fire the lappy up .. |
| 21:54.00 | Leprehaun | lol ill have to hold foire on that one ... looks as if son might have wiped the lappy ... again :S |
| 21:54.00 | Seablade | no rush, I am currently sitting here reading about the state of German theater at the turn of the 18th century... I am rivited /sarcasm |
| 21:54.05 | Leprehaun | roflmao ... cool .. |
| 21:54.31 | WhiteStar | duh, speaking german is enough for me, i have no urge to study it, too :D |
| 21:54.45 | Seablade | Oh don't worry, I in no way come close to speaking german |
| 21:55.01 | Leprehaun | hey tehy say ENLIGHTENMENT is good for the sole ;) |
| 21:55.18 | WhiteStar | uh, elive needs 2,5 gig? shit. |
| 21:55.28 | Seablade | I wouldn't think so |
| 21:55.39 | Seablade | Since it runs fine off a 700MB CD |
| 21:55.43 | WhiteStar | would have been good to know that before formating, not after |
| 21:56.00 | WhiteStar | me too, but that's what it says... |
| 21:56.04 | Seablade | Hmm put in a bug on that one then if it isn't telling you until after |
| 21:56.20 | Leprehaun | does say during the install needs 2.5gb :S |
| 21:56.40 | Seablade | Yea but if it doesn't tell you until after you reformat/repartition, it doesn't do many people much good |
| 21:57.05 | WhiteStar | same thing with the /home partition... asks after formating. -.- |
| 21:57.17 | Leprehaun | anyhow i guess ill have to go through all the routine of installing again .. |
| 21:57.25 | WhiteStar | lol, opening elitare while installing is a nice touch. |
| 21:57.59 | Seablade | hmm haven't installed the new version as one of my spare machines has hit the scrap heap recently, didn't realise it did that, been running it straight off the CD |
| 21:58.02 | Seablade | HehHeh |
| 21:58.32 | WhiteStar | i hate ati for my laptops gfxcard |
| 21:59.05 | Seablade | On the flip side, they MAY get better soon since AMD bought em out... Or at least so I hope |
| 21:59.08 | Seablade | HehHeh |
| 21:59.14 | Seablade | In the meantime though I stick with NVidia |
| 21:59.16 | WhiteStar | ;) |
| 21:59.56 | WhiteStar | maybe hp fucked it up... dunno (thanks to hp there's no new win driver since 2004...) |
| 22:00.42 | Seablade | HP, another company I stay away from, at least in as far as computers go |
| 22:00.46 | Seablade | I still get their printers though |
| 22:01.06 | Leprehaun | only printers iv ever bought ... |
| 22:01.30 | WhiteStar | dunno, actually, their laptop are quite good... except mine. |
| 22:01.49 | Seablade | Nah with HP it is kinda a crapshoot |
| 22:01.55 | Seablade | Some of their laptops ARE quite good |
| 22:01.59 | Seablade | Some of them however are utter crap |
| 22:02.05 | Seablade | I tend to find the utter crap |
| 22:02.17 | Seablade | But I know the good exist as my jobs every now and then get one I have to work on |
| 22:02.24 | WhiteStar | lol... grub install option "3) Don't install grub (elive won't start)" |
| 22:02.40 | Seablade | Its there for people that have another boot manager |
| 22:02.54 | WhiteStar | not everyone can aford IBM ;) |
| 22:03.02 | Seablade | For instance people dual booting with another linux distro, or with Windows that want to use the windows boot loader |
| 22:03.09 | WhiteStar | yeah i guessed so, but still, i think the option sounds funny... |
| 22:03.12 | Seablade | Heh Lenovo now for IBM |
| 22:03.23 | WhiteStar | yeah i know |
| 22:03.27 | Seablade | But actually for laptops I am much worse than them, I am going with Apple now |
| 22:03.36 | Seablade | For desktops however I build my own |
| 22:03.39 | Seablade | Much better for me |
| 22:03.40 | WhiteStar | the brand still says ibm on some new ones though o.O |
| 22:04.05 | WhiteStar | apple? well.. if i had too much money, maybe... |
| 22:04.16 | Seablade | Wouldn't surprise me, Lenovo is keeping the name as long as they need to for name recognition, until everyone can equate Lenovo with IBM |
| 22:04.24 | WhiteStar | ;) |
| 22:05.08 | Seablade | Apple has some good quality laptops, to bad sometimes they have a single bad piece in them(For instance the Airport Express). But in as sfar as quality goes they are rather decent and are one of the few that provide powered firewire ports, which is important to me |
| 22:05.09 | WhiteStar | hum... what does "FB autmatically recognized: 791" tell me? it asks me wether or not elive should start a framebuffer on bootup |
| 22:05.23 | Seablade | Go ahead and tell it yes |
| 22:05.32 | WhiteStar | k thanks :) |
| 22:05.35 | Seablade | A FrameBuffer is a type of graphical mode on the console |
| 22:05.40 | Seablade | It make it look purty |
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| 22:06.33 | Seablade | It also allows you to have a somewhat better resolution on the console, useful on occasion. And when running things like MPlayer from the commandline it runs in the framebuffer |
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| 22:06.42 | WhiteStar | okay... installed... let's see if i fucked up. hope to see you soon... in like, two minutes :) |
| 22:06.48 | Seablade | Have fun |
| 22:06.54 | fachex | hey guys!! |
| 22:07.03 | fachex | what's up Seablade !!! |
| 22:07.17 | Seablade | Howdy |
| 22:07.29 | fachex | thanks so much for the monitor thing the other day |
| 22:07.35 | fachex | it looks soooo much better |
| 22:07.46 | fachex | Thanatermesis, what's up!! |
| 22:07.50 | Seablade | I am sure |
| 22:08.07 | fachex | Seablade, do you kaffaine? |
| 22:08.32 | Seablade | Actually I may be going through the fun of that soon, getting a decent check so I may end up replacing my two CRTs on my home machine with two LG 22" widescreen LCDs.. would be VERY nice for me, though I am a bit skeptical of a claim of 3000:1 contrast |
| 22:08.37 | Seablade | Nah not usually |
| 22:08.48 | Seablade | If I remember right though, that is a KDE front end to Xine correct? |
| 22:08.56 | fachex | correct |
| 22:09.06 | Seablade | whats the question? |
| 22:09.23 | fachex | I am traying to record streaming radio and I can't do it with streamtuner |
| 22:09.24 | Seablade | Its been some time since I ran Xine straight but I can give it a shot |
| 22:09.33 | Seablade | Ahh ok... |
| 22:09.41 | Seablade | To be honest, you are stil in ELive right? |
| 22:09.42 | fachex | any solution? |
| 22:09.46 | fachex | correct |
| 22:09.54 | Seablade | Elive now has Rezound that ships with it correct? |
| 22:09.59 | fachex | correct |
| 22:10.00 | Seablade | Should be under Audio |
| 22:10.09 | fachex | I've got it |
| 22:10.09 | fachex | yes |
| 22:10.11 | fachex | I love it |
| 22:10.12 | Seablade | Ok the way I would do it, involves using an audi daemon called Jack |
| 22:10.14 | fachex | it's very good program |
| 22:10.25 | Seablade | However that can be tricky depending on what you use to play the stream |
| 22:10.26 | fachex | I have Jack too |
| 22:10.37 | fachex | but you know what? |
| 22:10.38 | Seablade | Ok try these steps.... |
| 22:10.46 | Seablade | Huh? |
| 22:10.49 | fachex | I know what are you trying to go |
| 22:10.57 | fachex | this is the problem with that |
| 22:11.07 | fachex | two things |
| 22:11.19 | fachex | on the output side, like my player... |
| 22:11.32 | fachex | xmms does not play this radio, so I have to use kaffeine to do it |
| 22:11.38 | Seablade | try mplayer? |
| 22:11.43 | fachex | on the input side, that would be Rezound.. |
| 22:12.00 | fachex | I don't have the option of changing the audio settings... |
| 22:12.11 | Seablade | Rezound autodetects things |
| 22:12.16 | fachex | I can't find where can I change the audio input and aoutputs |
| 22:12.32 | fachex | so, how do I set up mplayer? |
| 22:12.37 | Seablade | It takes a buit of getting used to, but if you have Jack up and running Rezound should not have a problem connecting to jack, and you can change the inputs and outputs in jack easily |
| 22:12.55 | Seablade | Ok first things first... Open QJackCtl and press Start |
| 22:13.02 | Seablade | That will start the Jack Daemon |
| 22:13.02 | fachex | ok |
| 22:13.08 | Seablade | Now open a terminal and type gmplayer |
| 22:13.11 | fachex | I am a little bit familiar with jack |
| 22:13.14 | fachex | it's great |
| 22:13.15 | Seablade | That should open up MPlayer |
| 22:13.24 | Seablade | Its very common in pro audio on Linux |
| 22:13.46 | Seablade | MPlayer open? |
| 22:14.03 | dats | d1 |
| 22:14.09 | fachex | I have jack and mplayer running |
| 22:14.23 | Seablade | Ok is mplayer showing up in the connection dialog in QJackCtl? |
| 22:14.49 | fachex | nope |
| 22:15.31 | Seablade | Was a bit worried about that, go into preferences and see if you can change the output driver on MPlayer, I am not sure if you can or not its been a while since I initially set it up on my workstation... while you are doing that Ill see about booting ELive on another machine here |
| 22:15.51 | fachex | let me check |
| 22:16.09 | Seablade | Or I would... except my CD Drive seems to be having problems |
| 22:16.14 | Seablade | Dang Windows Machine |
| 22:16.18 | Seablade | Dang work running windows |
| 22:16.38 | fachex | ok, I was able to change the output sound to jack on mplayer |
| 22:17.17 | Seablade | ok is it showing up in the connections dialog now? |
| 22:17.26 | fachex | hmmm |
| 22:17.40 | fachex | let me see |
| 22:18.26 | fachex | yes, it's working now! |
| 22:19.10 | Seablade | Ok, check to make sure your outputs are correct then, play something in MPlayer and patch it into the ALSA outputs to your speakers |
| 22:19.21 | fachex | yes |
| 22:19.32 | Seablade | Once that is done(I don't forsee any problems) go ahead and check to see if you can open the URL of the stream in MPlayer |
| 22:19.37 | fachex | I am playing the radio I want to record with mplayer thru jack |
| 22:19.46 | Seablade | Good, now open Rezound |
| 22:19.51 | fachex | opened |
| 22:20.01 | Seablade | Ok is it showing up in Jack? |
| 22:20.54 | fachex | yes |
| 22:21.07 | Seablade | Ok then, patch the outputs of MPlayer into Rezound's inputs, and start recording |
| 22:21.14 | fachex | let see |
| 22:21.29 | Seablade | You don't have to unpatch the outputs of MPlayer to the alsa outputs, but... |
| 22:21.40 | Seablade | What I might reccomend doing, is patch MPlayer into Rezound, and Rezound into those outputs |
| 22:21.52 | Seablade | That way if you hear anything you KNOW that it is going throguh Rezound |
| 22:22.01 | fachex | yes |
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| 22:22.45 | fachex | this is weird |
| 22:22.57 | fachex | when I press the rec botton |
| 22:23.06 | fachex | I don't get the option to record.. |
| 22:23.29 | fachex | I don't know how to explain |
| 22:23.32 | Seablade | ok, might come as a function of Rezound not having been actively developed in a while, though the Dev still watches it... |
| 22:23.37 | Seablade | Next suggestion then... |
| 22:23.41 | Seablade | apt-get install ardour |
| 22:23.46 | fachex | ok.. |
| 22:23.47 | fachex | I will |
| 22:23.52 | Leprehaun | bbl :S |
| 22:23.58 | Seablade | Ardour is a bit more complicated than Rezound, but it is a very good program |
| 22:24.12 | Seablade | And I KNOW that should work with no problem, I use it on a regular basis |
| 22:24.26 | Seablade | Rezound has a few quirks about how to use it |
| 22:24.35 | Seablade | They show up in odd ways |
| 22:24.42 | fachex | yes |
| 22:24.51 | fachex | that's good |
| 22:25.14 | Seablade | At any rate, the only option for ardour's audio is jack, you just need to make sure you have things patched like we did once already |
| 22:25.15 | fachex | I thought about what you said, but I was trying to do it with kaffeine and it's more complicated |
| 22:25.19 | fachex | but with mplayer is easy |
| 22:25.26 | Seablade | Yea, its possible with Kaffience |
| 22:25.27 | fachex | correct |
| 22:25.30 | Seablade | err Kaffiene |
| 22:25.32 | Seablade | or whatever |
| 22:25.49 | fachex | yes, but not that easy |
| 22:25.51 | Seablade | But the best way to do it there would be to set up an alsa-jack plugin which some people are not comfortable doing |
| 22:26.18 | Seablade | Essentially what the alsa-jack plugin does is takes output that uses ALSA and routes it to Jack, which then routes it back to the ALSA outputs |
| 22:26.33 | fachex | it's awesome |
| 22:26.45 | Seablade | It very useful when you get used to it, and one of the few things that is still documented somewhat well on the Alsa site |
| 22:26.45 | fachex | I set up my studio with linux |
| 22:26.52 | fachex | we used to use windows |
| 22:27.08 | fachex | but we got convicted in our concience about pirated software |
| 22:27.08 | Seablade | Been using Linux for my studio work for some time now actually |
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| 22:27.33 | fachex | so we put linux with ardour and it's awesome!!!!!! much, much better than the software we are using in windowss |
| 22:27.35 | Seablade | The ONLY thing I miss from Windows or Mac(Which is why I keep a Mac or two around as well) is the VST plugins that are availiable |
| 22:28.11 | fachex | it's true |
| 22:28.16 | Seablade | I can run Kontakt through Wine, but Soundsoap for example doesn't run well at all, which is annoying because GWC just isn't there yet with audio cleanup |
| 22:28.16 | fachex | but there are some VST for linux |
| 22:28.30 | fachex | hmm |
| 22:28.32 | Seablade | I would say you are much safer using LADSPA than linux VSTs at the moment |
| 22:28.52 | Seablade | LADSPA can do some nice things, but you may need to use two or three plugins and adjust more parameters than you would have to in windows |
| 22:28.57 | fachex | we recorded our first song this past weekend and it was so much easier with ardour and jack than nuendo |
| 22:29.00 | Seablade | err with VSTs I should say |
| 22:29.12 | Seablade | Heh Nuendo... ahh that brings back painful memories |
| 22:29.18 | fachex | horrible!! |
| 22:29.31 | fachex | what about audacity? |
| 22:29.35 | fachex | to record my radio? |
| 22:29.58 | Seablade | I don't believe Audacity has a jack output written yet, though I could be wrong |
| 22:30.09 | fachex | oh |
| 22:30.14 | fachex | yes.. |
| 22:30.23 | fachex | we are using audour in our studio machine |
| 22:30.28 | Seablade | Its part of the reason why I use Rezound instead, though truthfully I prefer rezound for single file editing, once I got used to the quirks about running it |
| 22:30.41 | fachex | the only problem, with the maya 1010, our sound card, we lost 2 inpust |
| 22:30.44 | fachex | inputs |
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| 22:31.06 | fachex | for some reason, instead of detecting 8 ins it detects only 6 |
| 22:31.17 | Seablade | Who makes that again? |
| 22:31.23 | Seablade | And what is the driver you are loading? |
| 22:31.24 | Elive_user70 | hi |
| 22:31.30 | Seablade | Howdy |
| 22:31.33 | fachex | our sound card is maya1010, from .... |
| 22:31.38 | fachex | let me see. |
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| 22:31.51 | WhiteStar | :) yay |
| 22:31.57 | fachex | we are using the via legacy drivers |
| 22:32.04 | Seablade | You aren't thinking or a MAudio 1010 are you? |
| 22:32.05 | fachex | the only one that works |
| 22:32.10 | Seablade | err of a |
| 22:32.15 | fachex | the same for the delta 1010 m-audio |
| 22:32.22 | Seablade | ahh ok |
| 22:32.25 | fachex | no.. |
| 22:32.30 | Seablade | You might want to try asking about that on the LAU list |
| 22:32.30 | fachex | maya 1010 |
| 22:32.48 | Seablade | If it uses the same chipset as the MAudio it is a good bet someone may have an answer there as it is a popular card there |
| 22:32.57 | fachex | where is that? |
| 22:33.03 | Seablade | Unfortuantly I don't have experience with that one myself |
| 22:33.11 | Seablade | Linux Audio User's Mailing list |
| 22:33.22 | Seablade | Do a google it should come up, I think it may be at lau.linuxaudio.org now |
| 22:33.31 | fachex | http://www.audiotrak.net/maya1010.htm |
| 22:33.49 | fachex | ok |
| 22:33.51 | WhiteStar | newb question: how do i install a .deb package? ubuntu did it automatically :/ |
| 22:34.06 | Seablade | As in one you downloaded? |
| 22:34.10 | WhiteStar | yep |
| 22:34.19 | WhiteStar | skype, to be precise |
| 22:34.40 | amagus | cant u get skype from apt-get? |
| 22:34.48 | roxville | WhiteStar, do apt-get install gdebi, then right-click on the deb file you downloaded, and it will install for you |
| 22:34.52 | WhiteStar | synaptics didn't find it |
| 22:35.04 | WhiteStar | thank you roxville :) |
| 22:35.04 | roxville | or use dpkg -i file.deb |
| 22:35.16 | amagus | rox what is gdebi? |
| 22:35.25 | amagus | auto .deb file installer? |
| 22:35.28 | fachex | I never heard aobut gdebi? |
| 22:35.35 | amagus | either didi i |
| 22:35.43 | fachex | amagus=rox? |
| 22:35.43 | roxville | amagus, yes, i think we skype is in the elive repo... not 100% sure, though |
| 22:35.54 | fachex | no, it's not |
| 22:35.57 | fachex | hey rox!! |
| 22:36.00 | fachex | what's up? |
| 22:36.01 | roxville | fachex, no, we are not married |
| 22:36.07 | fachex | heheh |
| 22:36.08 | amagus | amagus != rox |
| 22:36.17 | roxville | we are not even related...he's a primate |
| 22:36.19 | roxville | :) |
| 22:36.23 | amagus | lol |
| 22:36.25 | fachex | what's up rox? |
| 22:36.29 | fachex | how are you been? |
| 22:36.35 | PrinceAMD | hi roxville fachex and amagus |
| 22:36.36 | roxville | i'm good fachex how are you? |
| 22:36.48 | fachex | hey PrinceAMD !!! |
| 22:36.58 | fachex | I am good! |
| 22:37.00 | Seablade | well you can also install a package using dpkg on the commandline, or using synaptic, going into the file menu- add downloaded package |
| 22:37.02 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 22:37.05 | amagus | hi Princeamd roxville and fachex, any of you ever use Haxial products like KDX? |
| 22:37.08 | fachex | good to read my elive friends...:) |
| 22:37.12 | roxville | Seablade, fachex i use audacity for simple recordings and clean-ip jobs...i have a problem understanding rezound... for some reason |
| 22:37.19 | Seablade | on elive you can access synaptic thorugh the elive panel |
| 22:37.30 | fachex | WhiteStar, did you get your question answered? |
| 22:37.34 | PrinceAMD | sorry no amagus go u have a link where i can get it? |
| 22:37.49 | Seablade | Rezound has a different control interface than many people are used to, and as I mentioned to Fachex, it has its own quirks on top of that |
| 22:38.03 | fachex | skype is not in the elive rep. |
| 22:38.03 | roxville | yeah, i saw that |
| 22:38.04 | WhiteStar | fachex: yes, trying it out atm :) |
| 22:38.16 | roxville | i just think audacity is easier to understand |
| 22:38.27 | Seablade | for many people it is, and it works fine for many people |
| 22:38.28 | fachex | I use both |
| 22:38.28 | amagus | its for mac n win only :(, but supposedly there is a binary file that the dev is working on, and there is supposed to be a linux program but it dont work! try http://haxial.com ? |
| 22:38.43 | roxville | i try to keep things simple... so i don't get carried away when i record |
| 22:39.05 | roxville | coz then i only sit there and fiddle with the stuff... not the song :) |
| 22:39.18 | amagus | rox u play guitar? |
| 22:39.28 | roxville | yeah |
| 22:39.32 | amagus | cool |
| 22:39.44 | fachex | audacity doesn't work with jack! |
| 22:39.46 | roxville | i'm a singer, though... but i play some guitar |
| 22:39.55 | amagus | niiiice |
| 22:40.13 | amagus | im out yall |
| 22:40.14 | amagus | werkin |
| 22:40.15 | roxville | fachex, i have never tried, so... |
| 22:40.15 | amagus | peace |
| 22:40.24 | roxville | you too amagus :) |
| 22:40.24 | fachex | I am the same way rox |
| 22:40.36 | fachex | I sing,but I can play guitar |
| 22:41.00 | Seablade | Me I play guitar, piano, sing... not saying how WELL I do any of the above, but I do them;) |
| 22:41.01 | roxville | fachex, Seablade for xmas my wife gave me the sweetest little thing ever... a Zoom H4 |
| 22:41.03 | fachex | we recorded our first song this past weekend with elive! I mean, ardour and we use rezound and audacity |
| 22:41.13 | adamant1988 | roxville: how are you :) |
| 22:41.16 | fachex | what's that? |
| 22:41.27 | roxville | it's a ...recorder... hold on |
| 22:41.30 | Seablade | I have heard a few people reccomending the H4, its a nice little package but a bit underpowered for what I would need a portable recorder for unfortunatly |
| 22:41.35 | roxville | hi adamant1988 :) |
| 22:41.54 | adamant1988 | I'm back from pittsburgh :( |
| 22:42.17 | Seablade | Personally the next recorder I get will probably be the edirol R4 or something comparabl |
| 22:42.24 | roxville | Seablade, it's freaking awesome! |
| 22:42.33 | roxville | i even use it as a usb mic! |
| 22:42.45 | roxville | fachex, http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1901 |
| 22:42.48 | Seablade | In the meantime though I am probably first going to pick up an apogee mp to use with my Marantz and its blasted cruddy pres |
| 22:43.47 | roxville | your marantz...mic? |
| 22:43.50 | fachex | wow!! |
| 22:43.53 | fachex | fancy! |
| 22:43.59 | roxville | $300 |
| 22:44.01 | Seablade | Not really |
| 22:44.08 | roxville | preamp? |
| 22:44.22 | Seablade | I own a Marantz PMD-670 |
| 22:44.38 | Seablade | It would be a decent recorder, not great but decent, IF it had mic pres that I could use, but they are much to noisy |
| 22:44.50 | Seablade | So right now it tends to do archival recordings and things in various out of t he way places |
| 22:44.50 | fachex | can you make it work with lInux? |
| 22:45.14 | Seablade | Well the Marantz only reads as a USB storage device when plugged into USB, so there is no reason I can think of why it wouldn't |
| 22:45.39 | fachex | does the ZOOM work with Linux? |
| 22:45.53 | Seablade | If I pick up the Apogee Mini-Pres or something like that that are battery powered Mic pres, I can go out of that into the Marantz line ins instead of using the mic ins, and have a much better setup |
| 22:46.09 | Seablade | Couldn't speak for the ZOOM, I would imagine it probably reads similarly, as a USB storage device |
| 22:46.24 | Seablade | So for transfering audio off it I don't think you would have a problem |
| 22:46.29 | fachex | right |
| 22:46.36 | roxville | oh yeah Seablade those are nice! juts... $400 MORE than the zoom... |
| 22:46.57 | Seablade | Yea, I should spent another 400 on top of that and went with the Tascam HD-P2 though |
| 22:47.03 | fachex | but you can't use it as an audio interface... |
| 22:47.07 | Seablade | or the Fostex FR-2 |
| 22:47.18 | Seablade | Heh my audio interface is much nicer than Marantz |
| 22:47.22 | Seablade | ;) |
| 22:47.41 | Seablade | I used to use a roland VM-3100Pro, but that finally died on me, so I replaced it with an RME HDSP 9632 |
| 22:47.50 | Seablade | which is my current interface and I love it completely |
| 22:47.51 | roxville | fachex, the zoom can be used as an interface too :) |
| 22:48.05 | roxville | and... but not the best... a 4trk recorder :) |
| 22:48.39 | roxville | wow, i used to gig with the VM3100pro! |
| 22:48.44 | Seablade | can it do 4 tracks at the same time? |
| 22:48.48 | roxville | before i moved to the u.s. |
| 22:48.52 | Seablade | Heh I bet you hated it too;) |
| 22:49.04 | roxville | Seablade, no, only two at the same time |
| 22:49.19 | roxville | only when i had to go in and edit |
| 22:49.22 | Seablade | I had to pull a sound system for a 1500 seat amphitheater outta my arse one time when we managed to lose all pwoer out there, and it had to run off one 20 amp socket due to it being generator powered |
| 22:49.35 | roxville | but now that new edirol mixer is out... seems kinda similar |
| 22:49.55 | Seablade | I ended up using my 3100 then, just cause there was no way the m-2000 that I was running on would EVER be able to run off that socket along with amps and all that |
| 22:50.04 | roxville | and at $400, it's not a bad deal |
| 22:50.04 | Seablade | Roland/Edirol... same company |
| 22:50.11 | roxville | yes, i know |
| 22:50.25 | roxville | they have used a lot of ideas from the vm3100 |
| 22:50.38 | Seablade | Hopefully their interface has improved somewhat |
| 22:50.48 | roxville | yeah :) |
| 22:51.04 | Seablade | Unfortunatly the next digital mixer I purchase for live use will probably start at around the LS9, so that is a LONG ways off from me purchasing |
| 22:51.17 | Seablade | about 10k |
| 22:51.18 | roxville | i remember emailing them with the idea that it should have a usb or even firewire interface... |
| 22:51.19 | Seablade | USD |
| 22:51.30 | Seablade | Heh Roland won't bother with that, however... |
| 22:51.36 | Seablade | Presonus has a converter out now |
| 22:51.38 | roxville | but they replied "nah... we don't think it's the future" |
| 22:51.55 | Seablade | Yea if you get stick with their RBus crap, get the Presonus, I think it is called the VFire |
| 22:52.02 | Seablade | Converts RBus to Firewire |
| 22:52.09 | roxville | this was 7 years |
| 22:52.24 | roxville | ago |
| 22:52.24 | Seablade | And their opinion still hasn't changed much |
| 22:52.33 | roxville | rbus to FW? awesome! |
| 22:52.36 | Seablade | take note of how much crap they still put out with that interface on it |
| 22:52.45 | roxville | yeah, it's amazing |
| 22:53.26 | roxville | fachex, i found a GREAT deal on the zoom h4 at american musical suplly 3 payments of $100... they ship it right after the first payment |
| 22:53.42 | fachex | wow |
| 22:53.46 | fachex | that's a great deal |
| 22:53.51 | fachex | luckY!" |
| 22:54.06 | WhiteStar | dang, my mouse battery went out... if i wouldn't have a touchpad, i'd have to learn the keyboard shortcuts. |
| 22:54.21 | Seablade | Keyboard shortcuts are an amazingly good thing to learn |
| 22:54.30 | Seablade | you be very surprised how much faster they are |
| 22:54.32 | WhiteStar | i know ;) |
| 22:54.36 | roxville | fachex, this is a ...crude recording i did with it http://christidestrom.com/content/view/13/28/ |
| 22:54.44 | roxville | choose "santa lives in sweden" |
| 22:54.49 | fachex | ok |
| 22:55.11 | WhiteStar | but... one thing after another... i'm happy i get everything to rund so smoothly so far, thanks to the help of you folks :) |
| 22:55.27 | Seablade | Hey Roxville where oyu live in Charleston? |
| 22:55.44 | roxville | west ashley |
| 22:55.49 | roxville | why? |
| 22:55.55 | Seablade | Heh ok, I got some relatives that live out on Isle of Palms |
| 22:56.04 | roxville | oh, ok :) |
| 22:56.28 | roxville | i used to go there every monday night, to the ocean song cafe... for their songwriters' night |
| 22:56.48 | Seablade | Heh yea I never managed to get out there when I was visiting them down there unfortuantly |
| 22:56.49 | roxville | but he had to close it down... a real shame |
| 22:56.58 | Seablade | But that entire area seemed to be a decent area to go for local entertainment |
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| 22:57.18 | roxville | he had the best sound in charleston... he's a really good producer too |
| 22:57.54 | Seablade | Didn't you know, in order to succeed in business of entertainment, you have to provide some of the worst sound conditions possible for your talent |
| 22:57.57 | Seablade | HehHeh |
| 22:58.01 | roxville | yeah it is... i have never played out there, though |
| 22:58.19 | roxville | yeah, you're right |
| 22:59.01 | roxville | but his listening room was outstanding... windows to the bar...and a system that REALLY sucked the smoke |
| 22:59.17 | roxville | there was never smoke in the listening/dining room |
| 22:59.18 | Seablade | I have a friendd that just opened a restaurant down in southern fla, one of the first things he did was wrote to me and said, Hey I got a great place openeing up down here, 4 parallel walls with a high cieling and no sound dampening, you wanna come do sound for me? |
| 22:59.37 | roxville | cool! |
| 22:59.44 | Seablade | I really wish I had come up with a better response to him, but I was typing it while laughing |
| 22:59.55 | roxville | LOL |
| 23:00.05 | Seablade | Oh he was joking, he knew I ran sound, and knew that it was some of the worst conditions possible for sound to be done in |
| 23:00.13 | roxville | yeah it sounds like a project :) |
| 23:00.18 | fachex | Chris Tidestrom is you rox? |
| 23:00.23 | roxville | fachex, yes |
| 23:00.27 | fachex | :) |
| 23:00.32 | fachex | cool.. |
| 23:00.39 | fachex | I am listing to the song.. |
| 23:00.45 | fachex | is taht you playing the guitar? |
| 23:00.50 | roxville | fachex, only those two xmas songs are recorded with the zoom |
| 23:00.55 | fachex | I hear two guitars |
| 23:01.05 | roxville | yes, i'm playing and singning at the same time |
| 23:01.16 | roxville | nope, just one guitar |
| 23:01.21 | fachex | cool, you play pretty good. |
| 23:01.47 | fachex | it's funny song.. |
| 23:02.09 | roxville | the first song was so sad, that i had to write that one... for balance |
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| 23:03.05 | roxville | Seablade, Thanatermesis is very interested in sound recording and stuff too... and he's very interested in making a add-on cd for elive... |
| 23:03.24 | roxville | if you wanna dig in with ideas and tips, you are MORE than welcome |
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| 23:03.52 | Seablade | Heh most of what I would do is probably of a different style, I work as a sound designer primarily |
| 23:03.55 | fachex | hey rox, what did you use to put your music in flahs? |
| 23:04.08 | roxville | and yes, he WILL include a really good low-latency path fopr the kernel :) |
| 23:04.09 | Seablade | So not exactly fitting for an accompaniment CD |
| 23:04.21 | Seablade | Yea I asked him about that one once;) |
| 23:04.34 | Seablade | Was wondering why he chose not to use Ingo's patchset |
| 23:04.41 | roxville | fachex, flahs? |
| 23:04.48 | fachex | flash |
| 23:04.58 | roxville | it's mp3 |
| 23:05.01 | Seablade | Then again Ingo's patches are slowly being implemented into the kernel, so I wait another kernel version or two and itll be there anyways |
| 23:05.10 | roxville | :) |
| 23:05.18 | fachex | is coming through flash in my browser |
| 23:05.53 | fachex | what did you use to build your website? |
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| 23:06.04 | Seablade | Looks like Mambo |
| 23:06.05 | roxville | oh yeah, through the flash player... it's the mp3player i chose for joomla |
| 23:06.11 | Seablade | yep |
| 23:06.14 | roxville | :) |
| 23:06.17 | Seablade | Drupal has similar possibilities |
| 23:06.27 | roxville | Seablade, ideas are always welcome anyway :) |
| 23:06.30 | Seablade | Though at the moment I tend to avoid Flash, I haven't found a good balance for using it yet |
| 23:06.36 | fachex | so, what did you use? |
| 23:06.42 | fachex | to build your website? |
| 23:06.48 | Seablade | He used Mambo |
| 23:06.48 | roxville | fachex, joomla |
| 23:06.56 | Seablade | Mambo/Joomla, same thing;) |
| 23:07.02 | Seablade | HehHeh |
| 23:07.11 | roxville | no Seablade it's joomla...i know they are based on the same... but... they are different |
| 23:07.16 | Seablade | Oh I know |
| 23:07.21 | roxville | :P |
| 23:07.22 | roxville | :) |
| 23:07.46 | roxville | ok i gotta go, got the songwriters night...it moved to another place now |
| 23:08.07 | roxville | seeya later on :) |
| 23:08.16 | Seablade | Heh in the same boat, my wife just showed up, time for me to get off work;) |
| 23:08.19 | Seablade | Have fun |
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| 23:08.50 | fachex | sea you guys! |
| 23:08.55 | fachex | see you roxville ! |
| 23:09.03 | fachex | good job in your song |
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| 23:12.38 | Kokosolo | saludos por aca |
| 23:12.41 | Kokosolo | thana estas?? |
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| 23:13.07 | PrinceAMD | hi keyra |
| 23:13.15 | keyra | PrinceAMD: hi :) |
| 23:13.23 | Thanatermesis | hola Kokosolo |
| 23:13.23 | PrinceAMD | i miss u keyra |
| 23:13.32 | keyra | Thanatermesis: que tal ? |
| 23:13.33 | Kokosolo | hola amigo |
| 23:13.36 | Kokosolo | estabas perdido |
| 23:13.39 | keyra | PrinceAMD: :* :) |
| 23:13.41 | Thanatermesis | keyra, muy bien, y tu ? :)= |
| 23:13.49 | keyra | Thanatermesis: yo perfecta :) |
| 23:13.50 | PrinceAMD | keyra, love me? |
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| 23:14.11 | Kokosolo | thana te fuiste kompa y no pude ni despedirme |
| 23:14.34 | PrinceAMD | Thanatermesis, the entrance in tests works fine good job :) |
| 23:14.36 | Thanatermesis | donde? cuando ? |
| 23:14.40 | Kokosolo | :( yo me decia y thana onde ta |
| 23:14.44 | Kokosolo | Cuba |
| 23:14.58 | Kokosolo | no recuerdas al tipo del koko solo |
| 23:14.59 | Kokosolo | ajajaj |
| 23:15.17 | Thanatermesis | thx PrinceAMD :) is not perfect but well... 2 things not works in those versions of entrance, language switch and autolaunchers when you log in other user |
| 23:15.31 | Thanatermesis | is needed to fix this before to a posible dev. with new e17 :/ |
| 23:15.44 | Thanatermesis | Kokosolo, jeje, bueno, ya volví |
| 23:15.56 | Kokosolo | si me di cuenta men |
| 23:15.59 | Kokosolo | te me perdiste en na |
| 23:16.01 | Kokosolo | ajaja |
| 23:16.12 | Kokosolo | y yo resolvi lo del intenet enseguida men |
| 23:16.20 | Kokosolo | taba pa que tu no resolvieras |
| 23:17.18 | Thanatermesis | cual era el problema ? refrescame la ram... |
| 23:17.35 | Kokosolo | ajajja |
| 23:17.52 | Kokosolo | men que estabamos cerrao con la inter y no podias revisar gmail |
| 23:18.26 | PrinceAMD | Thanatermesis, ok |
| 23:18.59 | Thanatermesis | coño! asereeeeeeeeeeeee ! |
| 23:19.05 | Kokosolo | ajajajaa |
| 23:19.08 | Thanatermesis | que no sabía quien eras ! xD |
| 23:19.12 | Kokosolo | yo sabia que recordarias enseguida |
| 23:19.22 | Kokosolo | e que se te olvido lo del koko |
| 23:19.23 | Kokosolo | ajajaj |
| 23:19.37 | Kokosolo | llevo un rato entrando por aki |
| 23:19.41 | Thanatermesis | jajaja, ahora me estaba fijando en el nick y ya caí :) |
| 23:19.47 | Kokosolo | estoy interesado en seguir manteniendo el elive |
| 23:19.53 | Thanatermesis | te gustó ? :) |
| 23:20.02 | Kokosolo | hay algo nuevo en producción?? |
| 23:20.06 | Thanatermesis | ya te han dado internet entera, no me han dicho ? |
| 23:20.08 | Kokosolo | me fascina men |
| 23:20.12 | Kokosolo | to es kogerle la vuelta |
| 23:20.12 | Thanatermesis | bien :) |
| 23:20.27 | Kokosolo | si, ya estoy de nuevo en linea |
| 23:20.32 | Thanatermesis | bueno... hay cosas en produccion, pero por el momento no muchas... en todo caso puedes ver los cambios exactos aqui: http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html |
| 23:20.38 | Kokosolo | de lunes a viernes de 12 a 6 pm |
| 23:20.39 | Thanatermesis | que version tenías ? haz: cat /etc/elive-version |
| 23:20.41 | keyra | Thanatermesis: http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html |
| 23:21.10 | Kokosolo | ahora toy con la mierda de windows, es que estaba haciendo algunas cosillas con photoshop |
| 23:21.28 | Thanatermesis | ah, bueno.. en Elive tienes el gimp, es diferente pero muy bueno tambien |
| 23:21.43 | Thanatermesis | creo que te instalé la ultima version, no ? la de desarrollo |
| 23:21.47 | Kokosolo | si, lo uso bastante, pero como estaba trabajando sobre win imaginate |
| 23:21.51 | Kokosolo | si |
| 23:21.57 | Kokosolo | estaba con la version de desarrollo |
| 23:22.13 | Thanatermesis | bueno Kokosolo, alli en esa lista tienes los cambios hechos por cada version, en la ultima hay buenos cambios acerca del ntfs de windows |
| 23:22.21 | keyra | Thanatermesis: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by gates for fuck the linux users ? is specially made closed and in a way totally incompatible with all and all standards, don't use it, you lost your time ! (and you data lol) |
| 23:22.27 | Thanatermesis | calla keyra |
| 23:22.35 | Kokosolo | ajajaja |
| 23:22.36 | keyra | Thanatermesis: :* :) |
| 23:23.19 | Kokosolo | thana no viste nada de la Conferencia Informatica 2007 que se hizo aqui en la habana?? |
| 23:23.28 | Thanatermesis | solo lei un articulo |
| 23:23.30 | Thanatermesis | stallman estuvo |
| 23:23.35 | Kokosolo | si |
| 23:23.39 | Thanatermesis | tu fuiste ? |
| 23:23.43 | Kokosolo | la conferencia estubo bien |
| 23:23.46 | Kokosolo | lamentablemente no |
| 23:23.51 | Kokosolo | estoy trabajando en la pagina web |
| 23:24.04 | Kokosolo | con Drupal y me ha llevado algun tiempillo extra |
| 23:24.15 | Thanatermesis | aha |
| 23:24.45 | Kokosolo | pronto podrás visitar mi web, completamente diferente |
| 23:24.56 | Kokosolo | el drupal da algunas ventajas |
| 23:25.00 | Thanatermesis | bien, ya me la enseñarás :) |
| 23:25.02 | Thanatermesis | en linux o windows ? |
| 23:25.05 | Kokosolo | pero me gusta mas al estilo antiguo |
| 23:25.10 | Kokosolo | linux |
| 23:25.26 | Kokosolo | el drupal lo trae to echo |
| 23:25.28 | Thanatermesis | perfecto! :) |
| 23:25.34 | Kokosolo | por eso no me gusta mucho |
| 23:25.37 | Thanatermesis | era en la havana donde lo tenias que poner, no ? |
| 23:25.54 | Kokosolo | si |
| 23:26.03 | Thanatermesis | has probado joomla ? en lo poco que probé me gustó mas... pero bueno, es un poco diferente |
| 23:26.06 | Kokosolo | en el sitio de Cubarte |
| 23:26.10 | Thanatermesis | aha |
| 23:26.26 | Kokosolo | es que me dieron la tarea de experimentar con el Drupal, para hacer los 25 sitios de la provincia |
| 23:26.40 | Kokosolo | como todo es mucho mas ràpidi |
| 23:27.07 | Thanatermesis | a ver si el tema de internet mejora alla... :) |
| 23:27.13 | Kokosolo | pero cometí un grave error |
| 23:27.23 | Kokosolo | no me fije en la version de php que tenian en el server |
| 23:27.28 | Kokosolo | y despues que todo esta echo |
| 23:27.31 | Kokosolo | imaginate |
| 23:27.36 | Kokosolo | tengo que empezar de cero |
| 23:27.37 | Kokosolo | ajajaj |
| 23:27.39 | Kokosolo | =)) |
| 23:27.41 | Thanatermesis | jeje |
| 23:27.42 | Kokosolo | ;) |
| 23:27.45 | Thanatermesis | bueno, en linux es mucho mas facil |
| 23:28.07 | Thanatermesis | yo ahora mismo estoy moviendo todas las paginas de Elive a un server nuevo, 3-4 dias me a tardado, ya está todo funcionando :) |
| 23:28.34 | Thanatermesis | http://elivecd.net , http://bugs.elivecd.net , http://dev.elivecd.net , http://wiki.elivecd.net |
| 23:28.35 | Kokosolo | si men, pero recuerda que yo todo tengo que escribirlo de nuevo |
| 23:28.47 | Thanatermesis | escribirlo de nuevo ? |
| 23:28.55 | Kokosolo | aparte de que tengo montar php 4 |
| 23:29.00 | Kokosolo | si, pierdo la bd |
| 23:29.10 | Thanatermesis | como que la pierdes ? puedes importarla |
| 23:29.16 | Kokosolo | el drupal 5 que salio no esta completo todavia y no me reconoce la db |
| 23:29.27 | Thanatermesis | :/ |
| 23:29.34 | Kokosolo | ya trate, para ser exacto me meti 2 dias con el lio de la importacion |
| 23:29.38 | Thanatermesis | algo se podrá hacer para que no lapierdas... entra en el canal #drupal y pregunta (en ingles) |
| 23:29.48 | Thanatermesis | pues vaya plan :/ |
| 23:30.06 | Kokosolo | no hay aqui ningun canal en español de Drupal?? |
| 23:30.16 | Kokosolo | es que recuerda que mi ingles es muy malo |
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| 23:30.21 | Thanatermesis | aqui no... en el irc de hispano es posible, pero no te lo recomiendo xD |
| 23:30.24 | Kokosolo | lo entiendo, pero no lo se escribir |
| 23:30.27 | Kokosolo | ;) |
| 23:30.57 | Kokosolo | bueno de todas maneras me aventurare |
| 23:30.59 | Thanatermesis | a ver, entra y dime la pregunta exacta que quieres decir, que te la pregunto yo |
| 23:31.36 | Kokosolo | necesito saber como importar la bd de 4.7 en php 5 para 5 en php 4 |
| 23:34.14 | Thanatermesis | a ver |
| 23:34.40 | Thanatermesis | has escrito la BD en drupal 4.7 + php 5, y la quieres usar en un drupal 5 con php 4 ? Kokosolo |
| 23:34.50 | Kokosolo | anja |
| 23:36.10 | Thanatermesis | Kokosolo, y cual era el problema exactamente ? porque no te dejaba ? |
| 23:36.30 | Kokosolo | es que me daba error con la importacion |
| 23:36.42 | Kokosolo | como que habia cosas que no era capaz de reconocer la version 5 |
| 23:38.40 | Kokosolo | thanatermesis no kojamos lucha con lo del drupal, ya le escribire todo de nuevo |
| 23:39.08 | Thanatermesis | Kokosolo, dice que no debería de ser ningun problema |
| 23:39.14 | Thanatermesis | la version de la DB es la misma ? |
| 23:40.24 | Thanatermesis | y tenias el mismo usuario de mysql con el mismo pass, y los mismos derechos para tocar esa BD importada, no ? si quieres dame un ssh y le pego una mirada rapida |
| 23:41.19 | Kokosolo | recuerda que si me desconecto ahora me embarco |
| 23:41.26 | Kokosolo | ya no tengo inter a esta hora |
| 23:41.32 | Kokosolo | estoy aqui porque me quede enganchado |
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| 23:44.54 | Thanatermesis | ah ok xD |
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| 23:52.11 | egrub | Thanatermesis, como se borra el modulo putito via? |
| 23:52.19 | egrub | Es decir para siempre. |
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| 23:52.52 | egrub | Este snd_via82xx es un cagón de mierda |
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| 23:57.10 | Elive_user96 | I'm chatting to you via my new elive 0.63 machine and so far it runs great |
| 23:57.26 | Elive_user96 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:57.44 | Elive_user96 | 1- is elive still build using morphix ? |
| 23:58.09 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 23:58.38 | LinuxNIT | it uses dsslive now |