| 00:00.35 | Elive_user96 | I must look that up |
| 00:01.44 | Elive_user96 | are the build scripts and/or xml files available for dowload |
| 00:02.11 | LinuxNIT | that youll have to ask Thana about |
| 00:02.31 | Elive_user96 | thana are you there ? |
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| 00:08.54 | Elive_user96 | thana are you there ? |
| 00:09.20 | Elive_user96 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:12.02 | GPLGeek | "Within only a few days of Dell opening a new customer feedback website, they discovered that the feature most requested (by an almost 2-to-1 margin!) is an option on all new Dell PCs: pre-installed Linux. (And the number 3 request is pre-installed Open Office.) I believe they'll have a harder time now with the tired old mantra 'There's no customer demand for Linux.'" |
| 00:12.33 | Elive_user96 | Thana are you there ? |
| 00:13.13 | GPLGeek | the top requested linuxe's for all pre-installed systems 1)debian 2)redhat/fedora 3)ubuntu 4)suse |
| 00:13.21 | keyra | GPLGeek: Ubuntu is OFF topic |
| 00:13.22 | GPLGeek | Elive_user96, is there anythign I can help you with? |
| 00:13.38 | Elive_user96 | I hope so |
| 00:13.44 | GPLGeek | whats up |
| 00:14.09 | Elive_user96 | I'm looking for a sleek custom liveCD and elive looks like what I'd like to use |
| 00:14.30 | GPLGeek | so you want to figure out how to remaster it? |
| 00:14.44 | Elive_user96 | is there a way to get the dsslive build tree so I can customize it |
| 00:14.46 | Elive_user96 | correct |
| 00:15.04 | GPLGeek | dsslive has a subversion server |
| 00:15.30 | Elive_user96 | does it contain elive ? |
| 00:15.38 | GPLGeek | the best way I've found to custom the elive live-cd is to extract it's compressed file system to a chroot |
| 00:15.41 | GPLGeek | and then modify it |
| 00:15.51 | GPLGeek | then use make-live to make it back into a iso |
| 00:16.06 | Elive_user96 | very cool |
| 00:16.08 | GPLGeek | no it does not contain elive |
| 00:16.20 | GPLGeek | just the tools to build it |
| 00:16.48 | GPLGeek | thana has a lot of stuff on his end, including many things that we can't give out for development because of proprietary licence |
| 00:17.04 | GPLGeek | so extracting the cd and making a new one would be better than starting from scratch |
| 00:17.22 | Elive_user96 | it sure looks live elive has a tone of custom stuff It might be to much of un undertaking for me |
| 00:17.54 | GPLGeek | I happen to be working on a multi-boot system right now that will use the 32bit elive and 86_64bit etch (elive is based on etch too) |
| 00:18.04 | GPLGeek | 64bit with libs/chroot |
| 00:18.32 | Elive_user96 | sounds cool |
| 00:18.35 | GPLGeek | it seems E compiles and runs fine native in a 64bit environment |
| 00:18.47 | GPLGeek | also the current cvs of E is SWEET |
| 00:18.54 | GPLGeek | development is going very fast |
| 00:19.39 | Elive_user96 | so are you going to build your own elive like CD/distro ? |
| 00:21.12 | PrinceAMD | http://www.elivedev.org/princeamd/index.php?dir=Animated%20icons/&file=gimp.edj someone with e17 16.0.999.037 can test this new icon for me |
| 00:21.21 | keyra | PrinceAMD: better to request directly it to Elive for have it on the next releases http://dev.thanatermesis.org/wiki/ApplicationsMoreUsedList, but if you mean icons on the desktop, this is not on the plans of Elive, icons are shortcuts for inferior environments and his clones |
| 00:22.11 | PrinceAMD | keyra, i need to fix u |
| 00:22.20 | keyra | PrinceAMD: :* :) |
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| 00:25.27 | LinuxNIT | PrinceAMD, looks like it works to me |
| 00:27.24 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 00:27.32 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 00:27.47 | PrinceAMD | LinuxNIT, i need to add more images and make the light work BETTER |
| 00:29.29 | LinuxNIT | so what did you want me to say when you asked for a tester? |
| 00:30.12 | PrinceAMD | exactly what u said thanks |
| 00:31.21 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 00:31.59 | LinuxNIT | apparently |
| 00:32.06 | PrinceAMD | :) |
| 00:32.14 | PrinceAMD | how have u been LinuxNIT |
| 00:32.45 | LinuxNIT | pretty good... and you? |
| 00:32.49 | PrinceAMD | good too |
| 00:32.51 | PrinceAMD | tell u what |
| 00:33.04 | LinuxNIT | uh oh |
| 00:33.06 | PrinceAMD | hm.. nvm |
| 00:33.09 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 00:33.10 | LinuxNIT | what? |
| 00:33.19 | PrinceAMD | i wanted u to make me a program |
| 00:33.39 | LinuxNIT | ah.... depends on what it does |
| 00:33.51 | PrinceAMD | but to do that u might / will have to learn ewl eet that's if u dont know it already |
| 00:34.07 | LinuxNIT | i dont |
| 00:34.14 | PrinceAMD | damn it |
| 00:34.22 | PrinceAMD | like i said nvm |
| 00:34.26 | PrinceAMD | guess what |
| 00:34.31 | PrinceAMD | i got a nice wireless mouse |
| 00:34.36 | PrinceAMD | :) works sweet on linux |
| 00:34.37 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 00:34.45 | LinuxNIT | i had one that was crazy |
| 00:34.49 | LinuxNIT | i gave it to my mom |
| 00:35.03 | LinuxNIT | it would like triple the acceleration... really hard to control |
| 00:35.04 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 00:35.13 | LinuxNIT | she like it though |
| 00:36.51 | GPLGeek | Elive_user96, im building it but it's in no way meant to compete with elive |
| 00:37.02 | GPLGeek | in fact it will have a development version of elive on the livedvd |
| 00:37.28 | GPLGeek | Some people just NEED a 64bit system for work or other uses |
| 00:38.51 | GPLGeek | in tests the 64bit system off a livecd has been able to run faster than a 32bit installed system with the same equivilent packages. I think that Elive is one of the most innovative and user-supporting distros that exist. |
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| 00:39.43 | GPLGeek | my project only offers support for specific hardware requested, and is not aimed at a wide area of use like elive is. |
| 00:40.05 | adamant1988 | GPLGeek: hello :) |
| 00:40.13 | keyra | adamant1988: hi |
| 00:40.16 | GPLGeek | hi adamant1988 |
| 00:40.23 | adamant1988 | What project would this be? |
| 00:40.39 | GPLGeek | oh my own little project for a livecd / installer for 64bit |
| 00:40.40 | Elive_user96 | I hear you |
| 00:40.45 | GPLGeek | its mainly to test some ideas of mine |
| 00:40.51 | adamant1988 | Aha. |
| 00:40.55 | GPLGeek | Its working out but I'm going to need more time than first thought |
| 00:40.59 | adamant1988 | I thought you were doing your own distribution |
| 00:41.08 | adamant1988 | or something. |
| 00:41.19 | GPLGeek | I kind of am but |
| 00:41.30 | GPLGeek | I'ts a live dvd with multi-boot |
| 00:41.35 | adamant1988 | aha |
| 00:41.39 | Elive_user96 | so what do I need to get to remaster the cd ? just install extract the cd |
| 00:41.39 | GPLGeek | has elive as one of the boot options though |
| 00:41.56 | GPLGeek | the other option is a 64bit etch with e17 |
| 00:42.06 | Elive_user96 | then remote the packages I want add the modules I need and make-iso ? |
| 00:43.54 | GPLGeek | Elive_user96, you will need to apt-get install makelive debhelper squashfs-tools mkisofs |
| 00:44.13 | GPLGeek | maybe other stuff |
| 00:44.38 | GPLGeek | maybe qemu to test it |
| 00:44.59 | GPLGeek | im building from debian-etch 64bit |
| 00:46.10 | GPLGeek | mkdir mntelive |
| 00:46.10 | GPLGeek | sudo mount -o loop elive_0.6.3_unstable.iso.iso mntelive |
| 00:46.20 | GPLGeek | oops, i put one too many .iso |
| 00:46.35 | GPLGeek | copy/paste error |
| 00:47.03 | Elive_user96 | I'm taking notes |
| 00:47.25 | GPLGeek | you can chroot into the directory and then use apt-get install apt-get --purge etc.... |
| 00:47.41 | GPLGeek | it will be as if you were doing it in the elive environment |
| 00:47.51 | GPLGeek | oh first you needed to actually extract the compressed filesystem |
| 00:47.54 | GPLGeek | forgot that lol |
| 00:48.06 | GPLGeek | make another directory and name it elivecramfs |
| 00:48.18 | GPLGeek | extract all the compressed elive data into that folder |
| 00:48.27 | GPLGeek | then chroot into THAT one |
| 00:48.35 | GPLGeek | make changes, then rebuild it with make-live |
| 00:49.17 | Elive_user96 | very cool I appreciate |
| 00:49.28 | Elive_user96 | got to reboot this box now thanks |
| 00:49.33 | Elive_user96 | I'll be back |
| 00:49.34 | GPLGeek | it will take a bit more than that but honestly that's all my brain has right now |
| 00:49.41 | GPLGeek | i had a bad day at work and I just want to zzz |
| 00:49.50 | Elive_user96 | np |
| 00:49.56 | Elive_user96 | it's a great start |
| 00:51.54 | GPLGeek | the livecd crap is confusing |
| 00:52.02 | GPLGeek | I want to make it easy |
| 00:52.05 | GPLGeek | with my scripts |
| 00:52.30 | GPLGeek | but right now i need to go.... see you all in 20 min |
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| 01:34.01 | LinuxNIT | hey pales_rider |
| 01:34.27 | pales_rider | hi there LinuxNIT |
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| 01:34.33 | LinuxNIT | how are you? |
| 01:34.42 | pales_rider | im ok..how are you? |
| 01:34.52 | LinuxNIT | doing well |
| 01:34.54 | pales_rider | how's school going? |
| 01:34.59 | LinuxNIT | its going |
| 01:35.07 | LinuxNIT | so far so good |
| 01:35.11 | pales_rider | im sure you are doing well |
| 01:36.46 | LinuxNIT | did you ever get to talk to revdjenk? |
| 01:37.02 | pales_rider | yes i did, thank you |
| 01:37.07 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 01:37.28 | pales_rider | he was really helpful |
| 01:37.41 | pales_rider | and i can email him if i need him |
| 01:37.46 | LinuxNIT | cool... im glad he could help |
| 01:37.47 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 01:37.59 | LinuxNIT | well id love to stay and chat... but ma just put supper on. :-/ |
| 01:38.15 | pales_rider | and i wasnt invited again? |
| 01:38.18 | pales_rider | sheesh |
| 01:38.30 | LinuxNIT | we'll be done by the time you got here :-/ |
| 01:38.36 | pales_rider | lol |
| 01:38.38 | pales_rider | yup |
| 01:38.43 | pales_rider | go enjoy |
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| 01:45.46 | Elive_user88 | hello all :) |
| 01:45.54 | keyra | Elive_user88: hi |
| 01:56.46 | Elive_user88 | need help have ? about test desktop |
| 01:57.10 | Elive_user88 | anyone |
| 01:59.07 | amagus | ? |
| 02:01.14 | Elive_user88 | amagus i was in earlier has trouble restarting desktop after the upgrade ... im not about to reboot ... if the new install crashes at loading entrance how can i reload e17 |
| 02:01.59 | Elive_user88 | i had to do a complete re-install |
| 02:03.14 | Elive_user88 | any ideas ? |
| 02:10.55 | amagus | sry |
| 02:11.30 | amagus | boot into e16 and downgrade e17 |
| 02:11.37 | amagus | sorry cant help much there, g2g |
| 02:11.40 | amagus | peace |
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| 02:34.18 | LinuxNIT | i really wish people would stick around longer |
| 02:35.15 | hermit2 | how long? |
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| 02:36.05 | LinuxNIT | well elive_user88 was only here for like 6 min after asking his question... a bit longer would be nice |
| 02:36.25 | LinuxNIT | it gives other people a chance to see the question and respond |
| 02:37.04 | hermit2 | hmm, ya, but they don't know that. I saw his question but didn't know how to answer it |
| 02:38.19 | GPLGeek | if they have a real irc nick you can /msg memoserv send name messeag_goes_here |
| 02:38.24 | LinuxNIT | can everyone here do me a favor? |
| 02:38.26 | *** mode/#elive [+o LinuxNIT] by ChanServ |
| 02:38.30 | LinuxNIT | logon to elive.net for a test |
| 02:38.43 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, well eliveusers dont |
| 02:38.57 | hermit2 | sure |
| 02:38.59 | GPLGeek | LinuxNIT, its elivecd.net |
| 02:39.02 | GPLGeek | not elive.net |
| 02:39.06 | GPLGeek | somone else took that domain |
| 02:39.12 | LinuxNIT | yeah what GPLGeek said |
| 02:39.17 | LinuxNIT | and browse around |
| 02:41.09 | *** topic/#elive by LinuxNIT -> Welcome to Elive, feel free to ask questions.. Be good :] www.elivecd.org (Working now!) || elivedev.org is providing services for Elive Developers (php, sql, ftp, etc... ask gplgeek for more info)... Ask your question and be patient. It may take a little bit but we will do our best to help you. |
| 02:45.05 | hermit2 | nice screenshots linuxNIT |
| 02:45.29 | LinuxNIT | screen shots? |
| 02:45.35 | LinuxNIT | on elivecd.net? |
| 02:45.38 | hermit2 | yes |
| 02:45.45 | LinuxNIT | oh those arent mine... |
| 02:45.46 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 02:46.05 | LinuxNIT | but yes they are nice |
| 02:46.06 | hermit2 | oh, I didn't think I'd seen them before |
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| 02:47.51 | hermit2 | the site seems to work well. what are we testing? |
| 02:48.04 | LinuxNIT | how well it handles a load |
| 02:48.15 | hermit2 | ahh |
| 02:48.22 | LinuxNIT | so click a lot |
| 02:48.22 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
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| 03:25.42 | Elive_user57 | Hola soy de venezuela |
| 03:25.58 | Elive_user57 | Alguien que hable español |
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| 03:27.50 | LinuxNIT | hermit2, look new record... 1 minute ;) |
| 03:31.45 | hermit2 | haa |
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| 03:32.44 | hermit2 | what did he say any way? hello fron veuzuala. does anyone speak spanish? |
| 03:32.52 | keyra | hermit2: hi |
| 03:33.54 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 03:34.29 | hermit2 | not bad for someone who doesn't :) |
| 03:34.31 | LinuxNIT | but more than that i dont speak much spanish.. but there are those here that do |
| 03:34.55 | hermit2 | Ya, I've noticed that |
| 03:35.02 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 03:53.08 | amagus | hello im from venezuela, does anybody speek spanish. thats what he said :P |
| 03:53.17 | keyra | amagus: hi |
| 03:53.22 | amagus | suup |
| 03:53.53 | hermit2 | ahh, thanks |
| 03:54.06 | amagus | lol yup |
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| 03:54.11 | amagus | im working on my spanish |
| 03:54.13 | egrub | :) |
| 03:54.22 | egrub | amagus, hablas español? |
| 03:55.05 | amagus | not well |
| 03:55.21 | amagus | i can read it a bit, but cant work out sentances myself |
| 03:55.36 | amagus | im going to listen to "how to learn spanish" from piratebay :P |
| 03:55.53 | amagus | i def need to learn, cause a lot of ppl here do speak espanol |
| 03:56.08 | hermit2 | that they do |
| 03:56.49 | amagus | im out though, listening to rasta present E at an australian linux confrence. good night! |
| 03:57.03 | amagus | http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2007/video/talks/101.ogg |
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| 04:38.08 | THEoracle | hello all |
| 04:38.16 | keyra | THEoracle: hi |
| 04:38.32 | THEoracle | i can't seem to get my wireless adapter configured |
| 04:40.25 | LinuxNIT | does iwconfig see the adapter? |
| 04:40.45 | LinuxNIT | (root) |
| 04:41.15 | roxville | hi THEoracle |
| 04:41.24 | roxville | THEoracle, <amagus> http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2007/video/talks/101.ogg |
| 04:41.43 | roxville | this is reaster presenting e at a linux conference in aus |
| 04:41.54 | amagus | yeah? |
| 04:42.01 | amagus | it was interesting |
| 04:42.11 | amagus | u woke me up lol roxville |
| 04:42.36 | amagus | gnight |
| 04:42.59 | LinuxNIT | THEoracle, ? |
| 04:43.23 | roxville | lol |
| 04:43.26 | roxville | good night |
| 04:43.38 | roxville | it's really interesting |
| 04:47.56 | hermit2 | thanks for the link to that amagus. I'm glad i got to see it. |
| 04:48.17 | amagus | np |
| 04:48.20 | amagus | ;) |
| 04:48.26 | roxville | it is veeery interesting |
| 04:48.29 | amagus | you are welcome |
| 04:48.48 | roxville | even if i don't understand half the things he's talking about |
| 04:54.47 | hermit2 | I've read most of his site, I had a good clue. |
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| 12:18.32 | Elive_user | how do i change what virtual terminal x is on? |
| 12:18.38 | keyra | albert: hi |
| 12:18.58 | albert | anybody can speake spanish? |
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| 12:27.03 | bentejuy | albert, si |
| 12:27.37 | albert | bentejuy: sabes si es dificil instalar elive? |
| 12:28.01 | bentejuy | para nada ;) |
| 12:28.24 | bentejuy | la cuestion es que tengas espacio en tu hd |
| 12:28.53 | albert | cuanto ocupa? |
| 12:29.27 | bentejuy | se recomienda como 2,5G de espacio libre |
| 12:29.34 | albert | ah ok, no problem |
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| 16:30.20 | dats | hola |
| 16:30.28 | keyra | dats: que tal ? |
| 16:30.45 | dats | bé, i tu ? |
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| 16:53.25 | bentejuy | hi |
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| 17:27.42 | elmo40 | apt moo ? |
| 17:27.44 | apt | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
| 17:27.51 | keyra | elmo40: bee ]:) |
| 17:32.17 | elmo40 | quiet down now, i cant hear myself think! |
| 17:32.51 | elmo40 | well, another question ;) Not geared towards eLive, but to Linux in general : |
| 17:33.58 | elmo40 | i do manual backups of over 1000 files. how can i set up an automated system to only backup files that have been altered/changed/edited since the last backup date? |
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| 18:04.32 | bouba_ | thanatermesis |
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| 18:36.42 | wasynyt | good evening everyoen |
| 18:36.44 | wasynyt | *one |
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| 18:38.12 | kender | hi |
| 18:38.53 | wasynyt | good evening kender |
| 18:39.05 | kender | hey wasynyt |
| 18:39.09 | kender | how are you? |
| 18:39.58 | wasynyt | i am doing fine.. and you |
| 18:41.49 | kender | fine too |
| 18:43.03 | wasynyt | great |
| 18:48.02 | wasynyt | good evening Begasus |
| 18:48.21 | Begasus | lo wasynyt |
| 18:48.39 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:48.45 | elmo40 | evening? |
| 18:48.53 | elmo40 | only 1348 here |
| 18:49.29 | elmo40 | has anyone used debbackup before? |
| 18:49.29 | Begasus | 19:49 |
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| 19:38.10 | wizard123 | hi! |
| 19:42.38 | elmo40 | wizard123: hi |
| 19:48.51 | wasynyt | good evening wizard123 and elmo40 |
| 19:53.22 | dats | xao |
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| 20:41.03 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: having difficulties? |
| 20:41.23 | Thanatermesis | my isp sucks |
| 20:41.39 | elmo40 | so it shows :( |
| 20:41.57 | elmo40 | and how have you been? keeping busy? |
| 20:42.04 | Thanatermesis | very :) |
| 20:42.06 | Thanatermesis | moving servers |
| 20:42.50 | elmo40 | fun fun :/ |
| 20:43.26 | elmo40 | not to be impatient... but when will 0.7 come out? ;) |
| 20:44.20 | Thanatermesis | hehehe |
| 20:44.23 | Thanatermesis | well, this is more hard too |
| 20:44.39 | Thanatermesis | i want to put new e17, but i have problems with entrance, i need to make new features |
| 20:45.16 | Thanatermesis | final result, work work work and a lot of work :/ |
| 20:48.55 | elmo40 | i understand |
| 20:49.01 | elmo40 | many others helping you? |
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| 20:50.20 | Thanatermesis | well, in the final point is more work if any try to help... explain, prepaire... etc, very times i go to fast making my own bug-testing than speak and wait results |
| 21:06.46 | elmo40 | would help if more people lived near you, eh? |
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| 21:21.50 | Mtraker | hi |
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| 21:44.00 | dats | xao |
| 22:03.43 | bouba_ | thanatermesis :) |
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| 23:31.22 | Cohiba021 | thanatermesis : Come to see me please when you have some minutes |
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