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| 02:34.29 | amagus | sup |
| 02:34.39 | amagus | apt how are you |
| 02:34.39 | apt | amagus: you know how it is... |
| 02:34.44 | amagus | yeah yeah |
| 02:34.51 | amagus | apt tarot |
| 02:35.10 | apt | A card reveals Chariot, in upright position. |
| 02:35.10 | amagus | apt c++ |
| 02:35.17 | amagus | !!! |
| 02:35.20 | amagus | thanks apt ! |
| 02:37.22 | amagus | hmmm picese |
| 02:51.42 | amagus | hey anyone know how to remove icons from the iBar? entangle needs a lot of work, super buggie. :\ |
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| 02:54.31 | amagus | i yi yi segfault.. |
| 02:54.32 | amagus | lol |
| 02:55.51 | hermit2 | right click ---delete? |
| 02:56.11 | hermit2 | I don't really know as i don't use the ibar |
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| 03:04.44 | amagus | aha! i changed the .order file in e's application folder, that did the trick :P |
| 03:05.15 | hermit2 | nice |
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| 03:13.48 | elmoo | apt moo? |
| 03:13.59 | apt | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
| 03:14.00 | keyra | elmoo: bee ]:) |
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| 04:26.50 | elmo40 | hermit2: always with an answer, eh? Nice to see someone does :-P |
| 04:27.17 | hermit2 | sometimes |
| 04:27.45 | elmo40 | well, how about this one: |
| 04:28.15 | hermit2 | I'll give it a shot. |
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| 04:28.32 | elmo40 | i have a 160Gb hdd (empty), and a few random computer parts. Should i spend a few bucks on a P4? or a few MORE bucks on a CoreDuo 32bit? |
| 04:29.02 | hermit2 | hmm.. so, you need a motherboard? |
| 04:30.08 | elmo40 | this will be an eLive Only machine :) No gaming, mainly text editing, pr0n surfin, streaming audio listenin, skype/IRC chattin, document printin machine |
| 04:30.21 | elmo40 | ya, need a new mobo, current one is borked :( |
| 04:30.28 | hermit2 | and I'd get an amd opteron dual core. more bang for the buck |
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| 04:31.08 | hermit2 | I haven't really explored the newer motherboards. |
| 04:31.47 | elmo40 | ok, so opteron dual & mobo combo. 512RAM is enough, eh? |
| 04:32.21 | hermit2 | I want to sit on mine current system for a few more yrs. I've got a feeling that hardware is going to take a leap and the current offerings will be obsolete faster than usual. |
| 04:32.35 | hermit2 | I'd get at least 1 gig |
| 04:33.55 | elmo40 | i think due to the 32-64 switch, hardware manufacturers are trying to make 64bit stuff. Too bad it has been taking so bloody long! |
| 04:34.03 | hermit2 | and even if your not playing games I'd still get something like a 7800 nvidia vid card |
| 04:34.59 | hermit2 | ya... it had to go main stream. and quite a few folks went xmas shopping for 64 bit xp systems upgradable to vista |
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| 04:38.30 | hermit2 | I've been hearing more things on solid state HDD's and quad cores... I don't know, the hardware is out powering what the average software needs... driven by windows games and niche enthusits |
| 04:39.21 | hermit2 | just my opinion though |
| 04:42.04 | hermit2 | i would also look for a mobo with a nf4 chipset cause i think there are still bugs in the new ati chipsets |
| 04:50.51 | amagus | sup guys |
| 04:57.10 | hermit2 | not much |
| 04:58.43 | amagus | so how is elive on a 64bit machine, does anyone know? |
| 04:58.55 | hermit2 | its great on 64bits |
| 04:59.02 | amagus | nice |
| 04:59.07 | amagus | does anyone have one right now? |
| 04:59.31 | hermit2 | I'm running an amd athlon fx60 |
| 04:59.33 | amagus | i was dreaming of getting a 64bit machine, it sounds sweet :D |
| 04:59.54 | amagus | so is that a 64? im chip-illiterate |
| 05:00.08 | hermit2 | yes, its 64bit dual core |
| 05:01.27 | amagus | sick |
| 05:01.34 | hermit2 | lol |
| 05:01.37 | amagus | :P |
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| 05:20.37 | elmo40 | nf4? |
| 05:21.03 | elmo40 | nForce4? |
| 05:21.17 | hermit2 | yes |
| 05:22.09 | elmo40 | hermit2: talking about all that... 7800 vid card, 1gb ram, how much will this cost me? |
| 05:22.47 | elmo40 | if too much, then i will get a laptop instead. I dont 'need' a PC for what I do, plus the mobility is a majour plus! |
| 05:22.51 | hermit2 | not sure... how much did you not want to spend :) |
| 05:23.46 | hermit2 | I don't know anything about lap top except getting the wireless to work can be hairy at times |
| 05:24.24 | elmo40 | on the build-it-at-home computer, not a whole hell of a lot :-P Inexpensive Opteron, 512RAM, enough vid to do 1440x900x24. |
| 05:24.58 | elmo40 | but the lappy, $900 maximum. |
| 05:26.03 | elmo40 | i have been looking at a few AMD 64-dual core models for about that much. One with 17" wide screen 1440x900. |
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| 05:27.34 | elmo40 | welcome Elive_user26 |
| 05:36.31 | hermit2 | hmm... 7800 vid cards are next to impossible to find... I found what should be a good 7600gt for 130. |
| 05:40.05 | hermit2 | ok, better yet... evga 7600gt for 120. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130073 |
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| 05:47.27 | elmo40 | hermit2: that price is kinga steep... with exchange, and shipping, prob over $200! |
| 05:47.29 | elmo40 | I am in Canada ;) |
| 05:48.24 | hermit2 | oooohh... hmm... you might want to run price grabber or something to find something comparable in canada |
| 05:50.14 | hermit2 | but I find the evga brand is usually well priced and you want the gt version of the vid card weather you go with the 6000 series or the 7000 |
| 05:51.44 | hermit2 | the 7000's handle opengl 2.0 |
| 05:56.41 | elmo40 | nice, what i like to hear |
| 05:56.55 | elmo40 | evga, who makes their GPU ? |
| 05:57.26 | hermit2 | search for the am2 socket... the motherboards are less than 100 but the cpu will be close to 300 still... a 100 for the board, 300 for the cpu, and 120 for the vid card .... a little more than 500 dollars.. |
| 05:57.28 | elmo40 | nevermind... lol, i wasnt reading everything |
| 05:57.41 | hermit2 | nvidia... |
| 05:58.15 | hermit2 | you will have to consider the power supply |
| 05:58.40 | hermit2 | it isn't the thing to skimp on |
| 05:58.43 | elmo40 | i know :( With all that, i need at least 400W. |
| 05:58.47 | elmo40 | or more? |
| 05:58.52 | hermit2 | closer to 600 |
| 05:59.36 | hermit2 | but if you go with the opteron it will use less power and run cooler |
| 06:00.02 | elmo40 | but the vid card? how much does that take? |
| 06:00.46 | hermit2 | its a server cpu, made with good silicon, ....hmm... alot, depending on what you ask it to do. |
| 06:00.56 | elmo40 | lol |
| 06:01.12 | elmo40 | ok, so 550W + all the rest. |
| 06:01.24 | hermit2 | ya |
| 06:01.54 | elmo40 | do they still make mobo's with IDE? I see so many with SATA now. I think my stuff is too damn old, lol |
| 06:02.10 | hermit2 | oh... you might need some ram for that too... it will take the newer ddr2 |
| 06:02.27 | hermit2 | which has been cheaper |
| 06:02.29 | elmo40 | like yourself, i dont want to sink too much cash in a machine. especially when 64bit stuff is (almost) around the corner |
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| 06:03.11 | hermit2 | well this is a 64 bit machine... and quite a bit cheaper than mine was 2 yrs ago |
| 06:03.13 | hermit2 | lol |
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| 06:04.56 | hermit2 | they still take a ide hdd |
| 06:06.10 | hermit2 | just read the specs for the borads... you'll want one with the built in sound and etho... but not a marvel etho.. won't work with linux |
| 06:13.44 | elmo40 | no marvel, ok. |
| 06:17.27 | elmo40 | man do i hate ActiveX websites :/ |
| 06:17.54 | hermit2 | indeed |
| 06:18.31 | elmo40 | i tried so many things to get ff to work with it... but nothing |
| 06:18.39 | elmo40 | and there are many sites that use it! |
| 06:19.28 | hermit2 | yes, one of these days web builders will get a clue |
| 06:19.58 | elmo40 | one thing that gets to me, Samsung has a Security Cam system. One monitor(which is the computer) and up to 16 cameras. You login with root, but their online viewing requires ActiveX !! You HAVE to use IE to remote view!! |
| 06:21.07 | hermit2 | I guess folks will need to send enough complaints for it to change |
| 06:22.02 | hermit2 | its like shopping for games... they say they are pc games but what they really mean is they are windows games |
| 06:22.30 | hermit2 | faulty advertiseing there if you ask me |
| 06:22.37 | elmo40 | so very true |
| 06:22.56 | elmo40 | as per usual, it has been a pleasure chatting with you, hermit2. |
| 06:23.09 | elmo40 | Now, I must retire till the wee hours of the mornin' |
| 06:23.47 | hermit2 | same to talk with you. and yes... sleep is what I need to go do. :) |
| 06:24.15 | elmo40 | night |
| 06:24.24 | hermit2 | good night |
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| 06:29.49 | GPLGeek | http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20070226.html |
| 06:30.19 | GPLGeek | so either my hard drive is bad or my motherboard is having problems with the slave ide |
| 06:31.14 | GPLGeek | this means one less testing-computer for elive |
| 06:33.40 | elmo40 | :( |
| 06:33.50 | elmo40 | where you live GPLGeek? |
| 06:33.58 | elmo40 | what hardware do you need? |
| 06:34.07 | GPLGeek | USA, California, not sure yet |
| 06:34.26 | GPLGeek | I may need either a new hard drive, or maybe a bios update for my motherboard |
| 06:34.48 | GPLGeek | I'll test it more... but it's sending hardware failure symbols to the system. |
| 06:34.52 | elmo40 | there must be a 'computer recycling' program out there... you guys make enough waste in one day that Canada makes in one year! |
| 06:35.38 | GPLGeek | we have great laws for computer recycling |
| 06:35.45 | GPLGeek | everyone can recycle computers for free |
| 06:36.14 | GPLGeek | there are drop off locations and also if you buy a new cellphone, computer, etc they will pick up your old pc and recycle it |
| 06:36.52 | elmo40 | so there you go ;) |
| 06:37.03 | elmo40 | plus, your local LUG should have some crap lying around |
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| 06:43.14 | GPLGeek | well what exactly do you mean "there you go' |
| 06:43.40 | GPLGeek | sure I can get rid of the hard drive but im poor and can't get another one for a while |
| 06:44.24 | GPLGeek | I wont buy a used hard drive, thats dumb |
| 06:44.34 | GPLGeek | all sorts of risks |
| 06:44.58 | GPLGeek | one guy was thrown in jail because he had a used hard drive and it had traces of files on it when his computer was taken by the fbi |
| 06:45.16 | GPLGeek | so he got charged with having files, files that were deleted by the previous user |
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| 09:57.01 | assasukasse | hi everyone |
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| 10:36.44 | assasukasse | is there anyone over here? |
| 10:36.56 | assasukasse | i have a question about upgrading |
| 10:37.01 | assasukasse | my question is: |
| 10:37.25 | assasukasse | is that possible to upgrade or dist-upgrade an elice hdd installation? w/o breaking anything of course |
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| 14:08.36 | ghatak | Hi guys, I use debian currently and I am used to it, if I use Elive, can I still do same stuff on ELive ? I mean does it do things diffirently than debian ? |
| 14:09.19 | LinuxNIT | its almost identical |
| 14:10.50 | amagus | yeah, you should try it out ;) |
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| 14:39.34 | Elive_user65 | Hi, anyone know how to get "line out at rear (pd, obviously)" when configuring sound. I find Knoppix and wolvix are fine with this but Elive has a newer but less user friendly gui at sound mixer level. |
| 14:40.00 | Elive_user65 | erata: PC...obviously |
| 14:40.55 | LinuxNIT | you want to change PC voluem? |
| 14:42.42 | Elive_user65 | no, I've got a hi fi amp between my pc and speakers. However, I can't get any sound out. Usually all that has to be done is to set the Mixer to "line out at rear" |
| 14:45.15 | LinuxNIT | gnome-alsamixer has an option in the preferences for a "external amp"... that might be it... |
| 14:45.22 | LinuxNIT | what mixer do you normally use? |
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| 14:46.47 | Neonman | hola |
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| 14:46.50 | Elive_user65 | I think it's the alsa mixer; it's a default one one Knoppix and Wolvix. I'll have a look at the exteral amp |
| 14:46.55 | keyra | Neonman: que tal ? |
| 14:47.11 | Neonman | <keyra> hola |
| 14:47.20 | keyra | Neonman: hola |
| 14:47.27 | Neonman | mira tengo un pequeño problema |
| 14:47.40 | Neonman | no logro montar mi pendrive |
| 14:48.08 | LinuxNIT | Neonman, insert the pendrivar after you login. |
| 14:48.29 | Neonman | ok |
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| 14:52.18 | Neonman | i need code line form console to mount pendrive |
| 14:53.17 | LinuxNIT | what is the device name? |
| 14:53.30 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:53.39 | Neonman | LinuxNIT yes |
| 14:53.55 | LinuxNIT | pmount /dev/sda1 pendrive <<should work |
| 14:54.49 | LinuxNIT | i believe that will mount it on /media/pendrive |
| 14:58.23 | Elive_user65 | audio manager require a password, I'm using the live cd |
| 14:58.37 | LinuxNIT | elive |
| 14:58.44 | Elive_user65 | yes |
| 14:58.55 | LinuxNIT | elive |
| 14:59.06 | LinuxNIT | elive <<should be the pw |
| 14:59.22 | Elive_user65 | ah gotcha |
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| 15:01.19 | Elive_user65 | it's installing new plugins, will wait |
| 15:08.10 | Elive_user65 | yes "elive" is the password but even after system has automatically installed stuff there is still no option to choose "line out at rear" |
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| 15:13.49 | XeoN | hi |
| 15:14.18 | XeoN | opss |
| 15:14.36 | wizard123 | hi |
| 15:14.39 | wizard123 | :] |
| 15:15.23 | XeoN | :} |
| 15:17.31 | PrinceAMD | XeoN, sup |
| 15:17.55 | XeoN | hi amd what s up |
| 15:18.06 | PrinceAMD | nothing much |
| 15:18.09 | PrinceAMD | just here |
| 15:18.16 | PrinceAMD | playing some music |
| 15:18.21 | PrinceAMD | talking on the phone |
| 15:18.24 | PrinceAMD | chattin on irc |
| 15:18.25 | XeoN | ok |
| 15:18.31 | PrinceAMD | looking at my desktop |
| 15:18.37 | XeoN | are you busy |
| 15:18.38 | PrinceAMD | what me to go on..? |
| 15:18.44 | PrinceAMD | well i would think so |
| 15:18.55 | XeoN | :) |
| 15:19.16 | PrinceAMD | what's it u want? |
| 15:19.25 | XeoN | who |
| 15:19.33 | PrinceAMD | y.o.u |
| 15:19.43 | XeoN | i dont want anthing :D |
| 15:19.49 | XeoN | anything* |
| 15:19.49 | PrinceAMD | are you sure |
| 15:19.55 | XeoN | yes :D |
| 15:20.05 | PrinceAMD | how about a new core2duo processor? |
| 15:20.09 | XeoN | thnks |
| 15:20.18 | PrinceAMD | thanks? |
| 15:20.25 | PrinceAMD | i'm not giving hehe |
| 15:20.34 | XeoN | lol |
| 15:20.49 | PrinceAMD | apt xeon |
| 15:20.54 | apt | hmm... xeon is Pentium II Xeon. or at http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~rkuo/hardware/CPU/PentiumIIXeon.html or http://www.intel.com/intel/inside/svwbrand.htm?iid={whatsnew=svwbrand} or at http://www.tomshardware.com/xeon.html |
| 15:20.57 | XeoN | apt core2duo |
| 15:21.04 | Elive_user65 | coreduo processor? I'm running on a 2x1800 athlon |
| 15:21.18 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user65, thanks the SHIT!!!! |
| 15:21.19 | XeoN | i wanna cry |
| 15:21.45 | XeoN | i'm using Celeron 1 ghz |
| 15:21.46 | XeoN | :D |
| 15:21.50 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 15:22.03 | Elive_user65 | it was given to me in parts |
| 15:22.07 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user65, i got a sempron 2800+ |
| 15:22.16 | Elive_user65 | your blessed |
| 15:22.25 | PrinceAMD | and a athlon 2000+ |
| 15:22.31 | PrinceAMD | and a p4 1.8ghz |
| 15:22.40 | Elive_user65 | do you know if the older ones were alittle twitchy |
| 15:22.51 | PrinceAMD | no |
| 15:23.19 | Elive_user65 | ah, I don't know if I'm freeking it cos it looses firefox and things |
| 15:23.23 | XeoN | i have a celeron 433mhz but i dont use it |
| 15:23.24 | PrinceAMD | dual core and linux is like great |
| 15:23.31 | XeoN | :D |
| 15:23.43 | Elive_user65 | thanks that's encouraging |
| 15:24.10 | PrinceAMD | hm.. |
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| 15:24.17 | PrinceAMD | that weird |
| 15:24.23 | Detox_at_Work | hello all |
| 15:24.27 | XeoN | hi |
| 15:24.29 | PrinceAMD | what version of elive do use Elive_user65 |
| 15:24.31 | keyra | Detox_at_Work: hi |
| 15:24.36 | PrinceAMD | Detox_at_Work, howdy |
| 15:24.45 | Detox_at_Work | howdy back |
| 15:24.50 | Elive_user65 | any idea why firefox cant cope with myspace and yahoo after installling flash |
| 15:24.51 | PrinceAMD | wtf |
| 15:25.13 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user65, what version of Elive are you using? |
| 15:25.25 | Detox_at_Work | brb |
| 15:25.34 | PrinceAMD | Detox_at_Work, run along |
| 15:25.41 | Elive_user65 | a recent one |
| 15:25.55 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user65, lol |
| 15:26.10 | PrinceAMD | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.16 | PrinceAMD | root@Elive-5[~]# cat /etc/elive-version |
| 15:26.16 | PrinceAMD | elive-codename: Revolution + |
| 15:26.16 | PrinceAMD | elive-version: 0.5.5 |
| 15:26.16 | PrinceAMD | date-builded: 2006-12-10 |
| 15:26.16 | PrinceAMD | debian-version: testing |
| 15:26.17 | PrinceAMD | stable-release: no |
| 15:26.50 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user65, what version do u have? |
| 15:26.53 | Elive_user65 | elnlightenment 0.16.999.026 |
| 15:26.58 | PrinceAMD | ahh |
| 15:27.19 | XeoN | how is learn mine ? |
| 15:27.19 | Elive_user65 | is there a problem? |
| 15:27.23 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user65, open terminal and type "cat /etc/elive-version" with out the " " |
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| 15:28.34 | Elive_user65 | no such file on directory |
| 15:28.47 | XeoN | yes |
| 15:28.57 | XeoN | no such file on ..... |
| 15:28.58 | XeoN | :( |
| 15:29.18 | Elive_user65 | ah hold on |
| 15:29.21 | PrinceAMD | wtf |
| 15:29.25 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 15:29.38 | Elive_user65 | gotcha |
| 15:29.53 | Elive_user65 | version: 0.6 |
| 15:30.07 | Elive_user65 | stable release |
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| 15:30.21 | Elive_user65 | 2006.12.24 |
| 15:32.00 | XeoN | .. |
| 15:32.10 | Elive_user65 | I've notice a bug report that says no such fonts found? do you think myspace and yahoo detect flash but freek out the browser whilst looking for the said fonts? |
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| 15:34.13 | XeoN | i have no idea :( |
| 15:34.46 | Elive_user65 | thanks anyway for pondering the question, I'm over here in England...and yourself |
| 15:36.30 | XeoN | i'm in istanbul |
| 15:36.38 | Elive_user65 | ay |
| 15:36.45 | Elive_user65 | no kidding |
| 15:37.28 | Elive_user65 | XeoN is a kool user name...does one have to sign up to display personal names |
| 15:38.26 | XeoN | yes |
| 15:38.32 | XeoN | why not? |
| 15:38.32 | Elive_user65 | ah |
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| 15:38.46 | Elive_user65 | why not what |
| 15:38.46 | XeoN | do you know istanbul |
| 15:39.03 | Elive_user65 | no, I lived in Ciaro for 1 year |
| 15:39.41 | XeoN | where is Ciaro |
| 15:39.43 | XeoN | :( |
| 15:39.57 | Elive_user65 | Egypt :! |
| 15:40.27 | XeoN | are u really :D |
| 15:40.31 | Elive_user65 | :! looks rude, I just typed it afresh having never seen it |
| 15:40.50 | Elive_user65 | no I'm in England, and you really in istanbul |
| 15:41.15 | XeoN | yes |
| 15:41.39 | Elive_user65 | Ciaro was amazing, I hurt loads when I left |
| 15:41.42 | XeoN | sorry i dont know city of England |
| 15:41.51 | Elive_user65 | near London |
| 15:41.55 | XeoN | ok |
| 15:42.07 | XeoN | just i know Durham |
| 15:42.09 | XeoN | :D |
| 15:42.25 | Elive_user65 | England is a country...like Turkey and Russia ;) |
| 15:43.17 | XeoN | yes i know England just i dont know citys |
| 15:43.26 | Elive_user65 | ahh |
| 15:43.57 | Elive_user65 | you speak english very well but maybe you know cities by their arabic? names |
| 15:44.35 | Elive_user65 | like we say Alexandria and in Egypt they say Iskanderia or something |
| 15:45.57 | wizard123 | lol |
| 15:46.20 | Detox_at_Work | 65 >> you are in England yahoo |
| 15:46.32 | Elive_user65 | Yaho0 |
| 15:46.43 | Elive_user65 | where are you detoxing |
| 15:46.46 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user65, must try out elive 0.6.4 |
| 15:46.48 | PrinceAMD | u'll love it |
| 15:46.57 | PrinceAMD | it got a nice grub menu |
| 15:47.01 | Detox_at_Work | I spent many days with the Royal Navy and British MArines |
| 15:47.08 | Elive_user65 | you aprove |
| 15:47.08 | Detox_at_Work | in the past |
| 15:47.10 | PrinceAMD | plus firefox is changes to iceweasel |
| 15:47.25 | Elive_user65 | I noticed |
| 15:48.02 | wizard123 | hello Detox_at_Work |
| 15:48.03 | Elive_user65 | Detox: it's a mans life, hope they paid you well |
| 15:48.05 | XeoN | sorry elive break up :D |
| 15:48.11 | keyra | wizard123: hi |
| 15:48.13 | wizard123 | how is your server doing :P ? |
| 15:48.24 | Detox_at_Work | I was not in either,,, but had many friends in both |
| 15:48.36 | Detox_at_Work | I an United States Marines |
| 15:49.59 | Elive_user65 | Prince: do they realy use different download speeds depending on whether you make a contribution? |
| 15:50.11 | Detox_at_Work | hey wizard,,, just installed elive on dell latitude 800,,, and only have 2/3 of screen being used |
| 15:50.19 | Detox_at_Work | any idea how i can get hte full screen? |
| 15:50.34 | wizard123 | widescreen ? |
| 15:50.39 | Detox_at_Work | nope |
| 15:50.50 | Elive_user65 | Choose display settings |
| 15:50.51 | Detox_at_Work | screen only covers center |
| 15:51.06 | Detox_at_Work | ok rebooting |
| 15:51.39 | Detox_at_Work | had to use vesa,,, video is ati |
| 15:52.33 | wizard123 | and what about radeon driver? |
| 15:52.55 | Detox_at_Work | nope |
| 15:52.56 | wizard123 | and which screen resolution have you set ? |
| 15:53.13 | Detox_at_Work | 1024x768 |
| 15:53.24 | wizard123 | hmm.. i don't really know |
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| 15:53.39 | wizard123 | apt: shut up |
| 15:53.41 | apt | shutting up now, master wizard123 |
| 15:53.55 | get | wizard123, |
| 15:53.57 | get | hi tehre |
| 15:53.58 | wizard123 | keyra: will you marry me ? |
| 15:54.00 | wizard123 | hi get |
| 15:54.06 | keyra | wizard123: :* :) |
| 15:54.10 | wizard123 | :D |
| 15:54.12 | get | wizard123, |
| 15:54.15 | get | i need help |
| 15:54.20 | get | with usb camera |
| 15:54.21 | get | .. |
| 15:54.26 | wizard123 | uhh.. |
| 15:54.29 | wizard123 | under linux ? |
| 15:54.32 | get | Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05a9:8519 OmniVision Technologies, Inc. |
| 15:54.33 | get | yep |
| 15:54.45 | get | i charged ovcamchip module and ov511 |
| 15:54.51 | get | and it doenst work |
| 15:54.52 | wizard123 | and ? |
| 15:55.05 | get | i have no /dev/video0 |
| 15:55.10 | wizard123 | lol.. are you sure about these modules ? |
| 15:55.13 | get | seems to be incorrect driver .. |
| 15:55.24 | get | there are no more |
| 15:55.26 | wizard123 | you need to find proper drivers |
| 15:55.36 | get | yep seems so |
| 15:55.40 | wizard123 | try usbmodules |
| 15:55.58 | wizard123 | and see if it will find suitable drivers in your system |
| 15:56.12 | Detox_at_Work | hmmmm |
| 15:56.22 | Detox_at_Work | when i log out of elive,,, the paltop shuts down |
| 15:56.30 | wizard123 | o_O |
| 15:56.35 | Detox_at_Work | guess i need to reinstall and disable acpi? |
| 15:56.50 | Detox_at_Work | or is there an easier way? |
| 15:56.57 | trog | http://alpha.dyndns.org/ov511/cameras.html |
| 15:57.11 | LinuxNIT | you can disable acpi on boot with the noacpi kernel option |
| 15:57.31 | wizard123 | Detox_at_Work: i don't know.. laptops are prety strange if it comes about non-windows oses :] |
| 15:57.43 | trog | get: some cameras are supported, some are not. see the link i pasted above |
| 15:58.03 | Detox_at_Work | booted rom cd,, and added noacpi |
| 15:58.17 | Detox_at_Work | maybe that will help |
| 15:58.59 | get | NGS |
| 15:58.59 | get | Show WebCam Plus (OV518+) |
| 15:58.59 | get | v.2 |
| 15:58.59 | get | OV518+ OV7620AE, built-in microphone Working |
| 15:59.05 | get | its this one |
| 15:59.27 | get | ok now i need to find out the correct module |
| 16:00.37 | trog | get: http://alpha.dyndns.org/ov511/download.html#ov51x |
| 16:01.42 | get | seems to be compiled by myself yes ? |
| 16:02.55 | get | mm how to remove 511 driver ? |
| 16:03.03 | keyra | get: compile a driver... check http://dev.thanatermesis.org/wiki/HowtoBuildDrivers and http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff |
| 16:04.40 | get | arg |
| 16:04.44 | get | i need kernel sources |
| 16:04.45 | get | ... |
| 16:08.55 | Neonman | hola |
| 16:09.03 | keyra | Neonman: que tal ? |
| 16:09.16 | Neonman | necesito ayuda para montar un pendrive |
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| 16:14.43 | Neonman | hola |
| 16:14.51 | keyra | Neonman: que tal ? |
| 16:15.01 | Neonman | alguien me enseña a montar un pendrive |
| 16:15.02 | Neonman | hola |
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| 16:17.53 | wizard123 | damn.. |
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| 16:53.31 | ghatak | The dev version of Elive... What Kernel it has ? and what about the software etc, is it latest I mean? |
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| 16:56.31 | LinuxNIT | ghatak, http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html |
| 16:56.39 | keyra | LinuxNIT: http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html |
| 16:56.40 | LinuxNIT | its based of etch so whateve etch has it has |
| 16:59.07 | LinuxNIT | for the most part |
| 17:05.38 | ghatak | Okay I will give it a go on my lapi today :) |
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| 17:37.06 | Elive_user65 | any one know of free sites were one can get video snippets etc to practice film editing |
| 17:37.16 | trog | why dont you record your desktop ? :) |
| 17:37.59 | trog | there is a program 'recordmydesktop' or 'istanbul' ... |
| 17:37.59 | trog | you can practice on these |
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| 17:38.45 | Elive_user65 | thanks, do you know if it ships with on any live cd's |
| 17:41.41 | trog | i have no ideea, but you can easily install it on elive with 'apt-get upgrade && apt-get install recordmydesktop' |
| 17:41.53 | trog | sorry |
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| 17:42.03 | trog | 'apt-get update && apt-get install recordmydesktop' |
| 17:42.12 | trog | or trough synaptic |
| 17:43.40 | Elive_user65 | your right...do you, yourself use any of the video or graphix editing packages...I've only used the default Gimp |
| 17:44.12 | trog | my girlfriend uses gimp for photo manipulation, but you can use cinelerra for video editing |
| 17:44.15 | trog | its quite good |
| 17:44.21 | keyra | trog: cinelerra r0cks! |
| 17:44.33 | trog | see ? even keyra agrees ;) |
| 17:44.42 | keyra | trog: :* :) |
| 17:44.50 | Elive_user65 | yes, I've seen them all, but was wondering if you'ld used them |
| 17:44.54 | trog | keyra :* |
| 17:45.29 | trog | well, i launched it a few times, but i cant say i used it |
| 17:45.51 | Elive_user65 | same here, |
| 17:46.00 | Elive_user65 | keyra, what about yourself |
| 17:46.36 | trog | Elive_user16: keyra is a kde fan :D |
| 17:47.01 | Elive_user65 | ah, |
| 17:47.25 | Elive_user65 | my first linux os was Zandros and Knoppix |
| 17:51.17 | Elive_user65 | Trog>> I've used kde and the gnome thing (little personalise picture icons) I don't know what the elive os is using...do you have a preference |
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| 17:51.17 | Neonman | hey |
| 17:51.17 | Neonman | alguien me brinda ayuda para montar un pendrive ?? |
| 17:54.36 | trog | Elive_user16: elive is using enlightenment ...which is eye-candy and not bloated (see glx & co) ...extremly fast, and it suites my needs |
| 17:55.26 | trog | Neonman: put it in the slot, it should be automounted. if not, 'mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1' ...or sdb1 ... |
| 17:55.42 | sinplomo | -t vfat |
| 17:55.51 | sinplomo | -o sync |
| 17:55.53 | sinplomo | :) |
| 17:56.32 | Neonman | mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 17:56.45 | trog | maybe its just /dev/sda |
| 17:56.53 | trog | depends on how your pendrive is partitioned |
| 17:58.45 | Neonman | bash: /dev/sda: Permiso denegado |
| 17:59.05 | trog | Neonman: try 'pmount' ...or 'mount' as root |
| 18:00.07 | Neonman | Aviso: el dispositivo /dev/sda1 ya se gestiona en /etc/fstab, la etiqueta proporcionada será ignorada |
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| 18:09.23 | sinplomo | <Neonman> mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 18:09.24 | sinplomo | <sinplomo> -t vfat |
| 18:09.27 | sinplomo | :P |
| 18:13.44 | Elive_user65 | trog:> agreed, it looks good but I'm using the remains of a machine that friends passed onto me...it has no usb ports unlike Neonman, so the only option is to use the dvd and I'm new to ripping (acid rip) |
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| 18:36.23 | bouba_ | hi PrinceAMD |
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| 19:02.56 | Detox_at_Work | hello again folks |
| 19:03.04 | keyra | Detox_at_Work: hi |
| 19:03.11 | Detox_at_Work | again hello folks |
| 19:03.16 | Detox_at_Work | folks again hello |
| 19:03.39 | Detox_at_Work | keyra: goodby |
| 19:03.47 | keyra | Detox_at_Work: :* :) |
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| 19:29.35 | ee_lars | hello all :) |
| 19:29.43 | keyra | ee_lars: hi |
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| 19:35.00 | Detox_at_Work | yoo hooo |
| 19:35.30 | Detox_at_Work | hello ee_lars |
| 19:35.38 | keyra | Detox_at_Work: hi |
| 19:35.45 | Detox_at_Work | hello keyra |
| 19:35.53 | keyra | Detox_at_Work: hi |
| 19:35.58 | Detox_at_Work | hello keyra |
| 19:36.06 | keyra | Detox_at_Work: :* :) |
| 19:36.11 | Detox_at_Work | hello keyra |
| 19:36.29 | Detox_at_Work | apt: dumb keyra |
| 19:38.58 | Detox_at_Work | apt |
| 19:39.03 | Detox_at_Work | keyra |
| 19:39.08 | Detox_at_Work | keyra apt |
| 19:39.13 | Detox_at_Work | apt keyra |
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| 19:43.41 | Detox_at_Work | hello |
| 19:43.50 | keyra | Detox_at_Work: hi |
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| 19:45.23 | s-rider | keyra you bot |
| 19:45.26 | Neonman | Thanatermesis failed read error 10 |
| 19:45.30 | Neonman | loop0 |
| 19:45.32 | keyra | s-rider: me ? |
| 19:45.37 | s-rider | yes you keyra |
| 19:45.45 | keyra | s-rider: :* :) |
| 19:45.51 | Neonman | read i/o sector |
| 19:45.53 | s-rider | you're a bad bot |
| 19:46.01 | Neonman | 923658 |
| 19:46.12 | s-rider | thanatermesis is the king of elive? |
| 19:46.37 | Detox_at_Work | yes |
| 19:46.44 | s-rider | cool |
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| 19:46.52 | Thanatermesis | Neonman, es un CD-rw ? |
| 19:47.00 | s-rider | can I know when the next stable version of elive will come |
| 19:47.13 | Thanatermesis | Neonman, eso es un problema de lectura... tienes otro PC para probar ? |
| 19:47.20 | Neonman | si |
| 19:47.22 | Neonman | tengo |
| 19:47.24 | Detox_at_Work | anything Thana puts out is stable |
| 19:47.24 | Neonman | voy |
| 19:47.31 | Neonman | igual |
| 19:47.35 | Thanatermesis | :) Detox_at_Work |
| 19:47.36 | Neonman | lo he grabado mal |
| 19:47.40 | Detox_at_Work | functional stable i mean |
| 19:47.41 | Thanatermesis | s-rider, not sure, maybe soon |
| 19:47.45 | Detox_at_Work | not titled as stable |
| 19:47.57 | Thanatermesis | Neonman, usa 700 Mb cd's |
| 19:48.04 | s-rider | should i install 0.6 or wait then ;) |
| 19:48.07 | Neonman | ah |
| 19:48.08 | Neonman | ok |
| 19:48.11 | Neonman | voy |
| 19:48.31 | Detox_at_Work | hey Thana,,,, found a fix for my dell latitiude c800 .... the video only covers a small square in the center of the screen |
| 19:48.40 | Detox_at_Work | hit the Fn and f8 key and it adjsuts |
| 19:48.50 | Detox_at_Work | dont know why,,, but it works |
| 19:49.18 | Detox_at_Work | looks really nice now |
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| 19:50.01 | Thanatermesis | s-rider, install it with a separed /home partition... next time you install you make a "upgrade" instead of install, well, you save all your users and files |
| 19:50.09 | keyra | Thanatermesis: if you want to use the /home of another system, make a look to http://wiki.elivecd.org/community/es/blog/emamarro/hd_install_preventing_home_format |
| 19:50.48 | s-rider | oh great |
| 19:50.48 | Thanatermesis | Detox_at_Work, mmh, strange |
| 19:50.48 | s-rider | so its updateable |
| 19:50.48 | Thanatermesis | in some part, yes :) |
| 19:50.58 | Detox_at_Work | yes ,,, is not unique to elive ,,, all debian distros and fedora same issue |
| 19:51.05 | Thanatermesis | s-rider, see http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html , search the word /home for see about this feature |
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| 19:51.14 | keyra | Thanatermesis: http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html |
| 19:51.18 | Thanatermesis | thanks keyra |
| 19:51.25 | s-rider | thanks thanatermesis |
| 19:51.26 | keyra | Thanatermesis: welcome :) |
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| 21:03.52 | assasukasse | hi everyone |
| 21:04.05 | assasukasse | Thanatermesis are you here |
| 21:05.29 | Thanatermesis | a little |
| 21:06.18 | assasukasse | :) a little will be enough, i wanted to ask you, if you advice me installing 0.6.3 or 0.6 |
| 21:06.33 | Thanatermesis | well |
| 21:06.35 | Thanatermesis | http://thanatermesis.org/elive/changelog.html |
| 21:06.38 | Thanatermesis | see the diferencies |
| 21:06.45 | assasukasse | yup |
| 21:07.03 | assasukasse | there are good differences so i was wondering if this "unstable" version is more stable than stable :D |
| 21:08.41 | Thanatermesis | well, THOSE versions are very stable |
| 21:08.58 | Thanatermesis | after i want to make hard tests with new things, then come to more unstable.. but those versions are very good |
| 21:09.02 | assasukasse | -i go for the second and last question: if i install 0.6.3 when 0.6.4 is online i could simply update with apt-get dist-up or i simply keep my /home on a separate partition and m |
| 21:09.06 | assasukasse | ake a reinstall :D |
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| 21:12.29 | assasukasse | sorry for the enter in between but i am using mirc on cxoffice... |
| 21:17.33 | hermit2 | it is easiest to update with a new iso. keep a separate /home. |
| 21:17.38 | assasukasse | Thanatermesis moreover this 0.6.4 is on develop server or stable server |
| 21:18.09 | Thanatermesis | <assasukasse> -i go for the second and last question: if i install 0.6.3 when 0.6.4 is online i could simply update with apt-get dist-up or i simply keep my /home on a separate partition and m |
| 21:18.12 | Thanatermesis | http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php/FAQ |
| 21:18.27 | Thanatermesis | develop server |
| 21:19.56 | dats | hi |
| 21:21.09 | assasukasse | thanks Thanatermesis then i will not update until i find there is something i can't live w/o, at that point i will simply reinstall / |
| 21:21.38 | Thanatermesis | do you have a separed /home partition ? |
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| 21:27.19 | assasukasse | Thanatermesis i can make it when i install :D |
| 21:28.23 | assasukasse | can i use a separate boot with ext3 and the / and /home with XFS? |
| 21:31.14 | Thanatermesis | yes, but i recommend reiserfs |
| 21:31.32 | Thanatermesis | make a /home, you have good features on hte installer for the next time then ;) |
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| 21:44.09 | rabe | hi |
| 21:44.16 | Detox_at_Work | hi |
| 21:44.16 | assasukasse | thanks Thanatermesis but reiserfs is damn slow at me, i am a fan on ext3 or xfs |
| 21:44.30 | assasukasse | unless there are problems of course |
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| 21:47.56 | Thanatermesis | well, you can use any of you want :) |
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| 21:52.45 | rabe | which musik player r u using |
| 21:53.14 | rabe | i have xmms but my foobar2000 on windows sounds better ;) |
| 21:53.32 | rabe | maybe i have wron alsa settings |
| 21:53.45 | rabe | or xmms realy sucks |
| 21:55.30 | rabe | they made 999 fucking skins but bad usability |
| 21:57.01 | rabe | have u all set me to ignore list ? |
| 21:57.03 | rabe | ;) |
| 21:57.43 | hermit2 | I like xmms. never tried foobar2000. |
| 21:59.08 | hermit2 | I am also only using on board sound with 2.0 imitating 2.1 |
| 21:59.40 | trog | rabe: there are good (commercial) output plugins for winamp ... |
| 21:59.53 | trog | which i havent seen on xmms (dsp for example) |
| 22:00.16 | rabe | 2.0 ? |
| 22:00.49 | hermit2 | two speakers, no subwoofer |
| 22:01.14 | trog | (or dfx, i'm not sure) |
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| 22:33.33 | GPLGeek | today is shitty |
| 22:39.27 | hermit2 | it is grey |
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| 23:16.19 | adamant1988 | GPLGeek: Oh my god man.. |
| 23:16.26 | adamant1988 | I just read your memo |
| 23:17.11 | GPLGeek | it sucks |
| 23:17.33 | adamant1988 | GPLGeek: and there's no clue how it happened at all? |
| 23:17.34 | GPLGeek | he was just walking his dog... a cop found him |
| 23:18.13 | adamant1988 | That is frightening |
| 23:18.24 | GPLGeek | I got other bad news today, another one of my friends had died. I used to hang out with my buddy and his dad, and his dad died yesterday night |
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| 23:18.37 | GPLGeek | I've got like 3 or 4 funerals to go to in the next week |
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| 23:21.56 | adamant1988 | ouch |
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| 23:50.22 | GPLGeek | well dell is stupid |
| 23:50.40 | GPLGeek | in reaction to peoples want for linux they decide to sign up with novell |
| 23:51.07 | GPLGeek | they should have offered debian |
| 23:52.39 | GPLGeek | oh I guess the site I read from was slanted news... I go to the dell news site and it sais its going to offer "many distros" |
| 23:56.31 | adamant1988 | GPLGeek: I don't see them offering Debian.. I just don't. |
| 23:57.32 | adamant1988 | Besides, Novell was the logical choice there... aside from package management they have the most polished distribution you can find. |