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| 02:56.01 | elmo40 | GPLGeek: how goes it? |
| 02:56.15 | elmo40 | any new equipment? |
| 02:56.20 | GPLGeek | hey elmo40 |
| 02:56.25 | GPLGeek | no... have not had time |
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| 03:43.38 | Elive_user99 | apt say Elive_user99 pong |
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| 03:43.52 | Elive_user99 | thank you apt |
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| 04:23.47 | roxville | hi girls :) |
| 04:24.01 | roxville | oh...wrong channel... |
| 04:24.12 | roxville | except for hermit2 , of course :) |
| 04:26.52 | hermit2 | :) |
| 04:29.36 | roxville | wow, my jokes are so boring tonight, that i make ppl time out... |
| 04:29.46 | roxville | nice going, roxville ... |
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| 04:31.49 | hermit2 | maybe they all went to check it out :P |
| 04:33.07 | roxville | hehe, well... they'll be surprised when they get there :) |
| 04:34.26 | hermit2 | indeed |
| 04:37.45 | roxville | http://egofood.blogspot.com/2007/02/my-outrage-is-quite-present-i-assure.html |
| 04:40.12 | roxville | oh well... the usual comments... |
| 04:45.26 | roxville | ok, this is pretty cool... BBC has an open source video codec...suitable for streaming, in the making |
| 04:45.29 | roxville | http://www.bbc.co.uk/opensource/projects/dirac/ |
| 04:45.37 | hermit2 | always the good, the bad, and the ugly |
| 04:45.49 | roxville | yep |
| 04:45.53 | roxville | http://dirac.sourceforge.net/faq.html#a1 |
| 04:46.11 | roxville | but here... this is a very funny FAQ... very british |
| 04:46.26 | roxville | so kinda dry humor... i love it |
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| 04:51.46 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.19 | roxville | the whining of the fan is driving me nuts |
| 04:52.59 | roxville | hermit2, you do a lot of organic food? |
| 04:53.05 | hermit2 | I do |
| 04:53.17 | hermit2 | do you have an air compressor? |
| 04:53.32 | roxville | lol, no i don't |
| 04:54.15 | hermit2 | you could try vacuming it... maybe your lucky and the vac has a blower on it |
| 04:54.36 | roxville | not a bad idea...i'll try that |
| 04:55.01 | roxville | so... what kind of foods do you buy that's organic, and... why? |
| 04:55.23 | hermit2 | everything if possible |
| 04:55.33 | hermit2 | and for lots of reasons |
| 04:56.06 | roxville | good :) |
| 04:56.07 | hermit2 | its better for the dirt, for the people, for the bug, for the animals. |
| 04:56.27 | roxville | what about high fructose corn syrup? you try to stay away from it? |
| 04:57.20 | roxville | did you know that an organically grown tomato... even if only half the size of a regular tomato, has TWICE the vitamins in it? |
| 04:57.26 | hermit2 | no high fructose syrup, no hydrogenated stuffs, no processed stuff, no aditives, artificial flavors or sweeteners |
| 04:57.36 | hermit2 | yup |
| 04:58.44 | hermit2 | and one on the vine you grew your self has even more. there is a chemical change that happens as the tomatoe ripens... when picked green for shipping that change never happens even if the tomatoe turns red |
| 04:59.48 | roxville | yep |
| 04:59.57 | roxville | good, you know your stuff :) |
| 05:00.02 | roxville | just checking :) |
| 05:00.24 | hermit2 | yup... now if only my hubby would get it |
| 05:00.33 | roxville | i used to work in a health food store... the amount of ppl that has no idea about anything, is...scary |
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| 05:00.49 | roxville | hehe, i'm saying the same... for my wife :) |
| 05:01.40 | hermit2 | indeed it is... and even scarier is they don't want to know or can't believe its true... the government lets them sell it, it must be good for you |
| 05:02.15 | roxville | we had sooo many "micro wave vegans"...... they buy frozen vegan food... and call themselves begans |
| 05:02.28 | hermit2 | ack |
| 05:02.36 | roxville | vegans even |
| 05:02.48 | hermit2 | hubby still doesn't get why I threw the mirowave out |
| 05:02.55 | roxville | hehe |
| 05:03.08 | roxville | i use it... but not very much |
| 05:03.19 | roxville | and never for veggies and stuff like that |
| 05:03.28 | roxville | it's good for popcorn |
| 05:03.50 | hermit2 | after i read the article on how some one in a hospital had used the microwave to warm some blood for a transfusion |
| 05:04.14 | roxville | omg... |
| 05:04.41 | roxville | so killing the blood before injecting it |
| 05:04.43 | hermit2 | the patient died. rendered the blood physically dead even though looking at it you could see no difference |
| 05:05.11 | hermit2 | does the same thing to the food... no nutrition left in it |
| 05:05.18 | roxville | yep |
| 05:05.34 | roxville | like i said...it's ok for popcorn... |
| 05:05.48 | hermit2 | I have a hot air poper |
| 05:06.02 | roxville | of course...that's the best |
| 05:06.30 | hermit2 | the microwave took up too much space... got a toaster oven instead. one appliance instead of two |
| 05:06.36 | roxville | i have my veggie steamer ready on the kitchen counter |
| 05:06.48 | roxville | there ya go, good choice |
| 05:07.46 | roxville | hermit2, do you use margarines or real butter? |
| 05:07.52 | hermit2 | kosher meats are pretty dang good |
| 05:07.58 | roxville | yep |
| 05:08.36 | hermit2 | always the real thing, butter, whole milk, olive oil |
| 05:08.57 | hermit2 | better even is raw milk and butter... homoginizing and pasturizing is no good |
| 05:09.07 | hermit2 | very hard to get though |
| 05:09.11 | roxville | i buy, not organic, but good quality chicken thihgs, and use that most of the time... best part of the chicken...and the cheapest too...apart from the liver |
| 05:09.36 | roxville | yeah, the FDA doesn't let stores sell raw milk |
| 05:10.03 | roxville | we had major probs...and had to stop selling our raw goat milk |
| 05:10.43 | hermit2 | I've gotten to were I can't stand the smell of non-healthy chicken... hubby will get cheap chicken wings ... |
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| 05:11.28 | roxville | i HATE wings to begin with |
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| 05:11.49 | Elive_user3 | hello all |
| 05:12.03 | hermit2 | nope they don't... there are some states that can ... calif, and PA.. NH too but not commercially |
| 05:12.10 | roxville | hello Elive_user3 |
| 05:12.14 | hermit2 | hello |
| 05:12.18 | Elive_user3 | hi :) |
| 05:12.56 | Elive_user3 | can someone tell me whats the command to load the engage-module |
| 05:13.38 | roxville | Elive_user3, do you have it installed? |
| 05:13.43 | Elive_user3 | yes |
| 05:13.52 | Elive_user3 | but i dont see it loaded |
| 05:14.05 | Elive_user3 | in the modules |
| 05:14.15 | roxville | can you find the e17 settings? |
| 05:14.23 | roxville | oh |
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| 05:14.39 | roxville | weird |
| 05:15.21 | Elive_user3 | as in the modules ? |
| 05:15.23 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user3, do you have engage installed or engage-module? (just a double check) |
| 05:15.34 | LinuxNIT | one is a program one is a module |
| 05:15.35 | roxville | Elive_user3, yeah, that's what i meant |
| 05:15.42 | Elive_user3 | engage-module |
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| 05:17.14 | Elive_user3 | used apt-get install engage-module so i asume thats the stand alone ? |
| 05:17.26 | Elive_user3 | but dont see it listed in modules |
| 05:18.26 | roxville | idk what to say... this is so weird |
| 05:20.13 | roxville | Elive_user3, restart e17 |
| 05:20.23 | roxville | and open the config again |
| 05:20.35 | roxville | just e17, not X or anything |
| 05:20.47 | Elive_user3 | as in reboot |
| 05:20.49 | elmo40 | roxville: evening :) |
| 05:20.57 | elmo40 | hermit2: hello |
| 05:21.01 | roxville | exactly, no need to reboot |
| 05:21.04 | elmo40 | LinuxNIT: ping |
| 05:21.07 | roxville | hiya elmo40 :) |
| 05:21.12 | LinuxNIT | pong |
| 05:21.12 | hermit2 | hello elmo40 |
| 05:21.23 | elmo40 | who likes streaming music? http://muzak.slackbocks.net/ |
| 05:21.48 | elmo40 | a friend of mine set this up. This is 70% of his collection. More to come. |
| 05:22.18 | roxville | so why did he reboot? |
| 05:22.38 | hermit2 | becuase thats what you do in windows :) |
| 05:22.57 | roxville | hermit2, my dad had diabetes, just like i do...type1 since he was 15 |
| 05:23.26 | roxville | back in those days, they knew that fructose entered the blood stream a little slower than regular glucose |
| 05:23.35 | roxville | so all diabetics used it |
| 05:23.39 | hermit2 | errr... |
| 05:23.56 | roxville | they didn't know that fructose can ONLY be broken down in the liver |
| 05:24.32 | roxville | when my dad died, at age 53, the doc who performed his sutopsy asked my mom if he'd had a drinking problem |
| 05:24.41 | hermit2 | not good... |
| 05:24.44 | elmo40 | roxville: diabetes is an interesting, and unfortunately difficult thing to repair... the 'wrong' organ is affected :/ Cant just replace that organ. |
| 05:24.45 | roxville | my dad drank like, one glass of wine...per year |
| 05:25.03 | roxville | elmo40, exactly...it |
| 05:25.28 | roxville | s the ONLY organ that for some reason, just totally refuses to be transplanted |
| 05:25.30 | hermit2 | diabetes is an odd thing and the cause of it is not the same for everyone... |
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| 05:26.24 | elmo40 | you see, with Hep, you can replace the liver, but diabetes... you are screwed (until they release the cure) |
| 05:26.24 | LinuxNIT | elmo40, did you want something? |
| 05:26.35 | hermit2 | thats because that organ does more than just regulate insulin... several other hormones are involed |
| 05:26.43 | elmo40 | LinuxNIT: i wanted to aim your attention to my friends streaming website, that is all. Just a shamless plug ;) |
| 05:26.47 | roxville | yep |
| 05:26.57 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 05:28.24 | hermit2 | and it isn't the only one... can't replace the thyroid, or the hypothalmus either |
| 05:28.55 | roxville | type1 diabetes is almost always the same... ppl with "too good" immune system |
| 05:29.07 | roxville | yeah, yoiu're right |
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| 05:30.24 | elmo40 | roxville: ignorance, or not well learned? There is a difference, my friend. |
| 05:30.28 | hermit2 | though those are more considered glands than organs, but I think the pancrease is a gland more than an organ |
| 05:30.30 | roxville | but type2 diabetes is a fucking GOLD MINE... that's why they are so slow with pulling high fructose corn syrup from the shelves |
| 05:31.07 | hermit2 | yup, its all about the money... you don't make money on healthy people |
| 05:31.17 | roxville | correct |
| 05:31.39 | hermit2 | or so they think |
| 05:31.59 | roxville | and i have met people that have "acid reflux diease"... |
| 05:32.10 | roxville | disease |
| 05:32.29 | hermit2 | yes, now its a disease and you are only allowed to treat it with approved drugs |
| 05:32.46 | roxville | i almost laughed when they said it |
| 05:33.05 | hermit2 | because only a 'drug ' can cure |
| 05:33.49 | roxville | yeah...eating good COOKED food, and drink apple cider vinegar couldn't possibly do any good...could it? |
| 05:34.04 | elmo40 | this is an Honest question (since we are talking about health issues) Has anyone had their collon cleansed? You will be DAMN surprised how you lose all the urges to eat sugar, fast food, mass processed food. I believe all those 'preservatives' are chemical stimulants to make you eat more! They stay in your body, especially in the colon. Clean it out, you Will feel better. |
| 05:34.25 | roxville | to HELP the stomacj calm down with vinegar... scary thought... |
| 05:34.41 | hermit2 | nope, thats not an approved method of treatment. we will have to prohibit you from telling anyone else of any success you've had using it |
| 05:34.49 | elmo40 | roxville: cider vinegar rox! |
| 05:34.57 | roxville | elmo40, a friend once took me to a yoga place...i think i drank 5 gallons of hot salt water |
| 05:35.05 | roxville | it was a SCARY experince |
| 05:35.26 | roxville | hermit2, LOOOL |
| 05:35.55 | roxville | but you're right, it works really well |
| 05:36.26 | elmo40 | this is a sad place to live in. our 'health' systems all want our money! they put a mask over the symptoms, while the Real problems still occur! When will anyone realize that hiding the symptoms does not mean you are cured! |
| 05:36.26 | roxville | hermit2, ever tried kombucha? |
| 05:36.35 | hermit2 | my sister has been using apple cider vinegar for her hip pain |
| 05:37.09 | roxville | for joints and stuff...black cherry is awesome |
| 05:37.47 | roxville | kombucha is awesome! |
| 05:38.05 | hermit2 | she fell down the stairs at home. went to the orthopedic doctor who told her pain was subjective and since he had no way of knowing how much something hurt he couldn't give her anything for it |
| 05:38.09 | roxville | as soon as a get $20 to spare, i'm gonna order a couple of cultures |
| 05:38.38 | roxville | holy crap! |
| 05:38.56 | roxville | what an AH! |
| 05:39.12 | hermit2 | and since nothing was broken.. he couldn't do anything for her |
| 05:39.34 | elmo40 | go figure. Go to a natural path. |
| 05:39.42 | hermit2 | she's a waitress... one her feet all day... |
| 05:39.52 | roxville | i've had the same problem with my back... nothing broken, just pain |
| 05:40.07 | roxville | so noone really believed me...i was 17 |
| 05:40.32 | hermit2 | she says the apple vinegar works better than anything... advil doesn't touch the pain |
| 05:40.48 | roxville | yeah, it's good stuff |
| 05:40.56 | roxville | look into kombucha too |
| 05:41.05 | roxville | it's good for EVERYTHING |
| 05:41.08 | elmo40 | roxville: no chiropractor? |
| 05:41.10 | hermit2 | she takes it internally |
| 05:41.20 | hermit2 | but its good for soaking in |
| 05:41.20 | roxville | since it really helps balance up your whole system |
| 05:41.47 | hermit2 | they even use it for race horses to soak thier ankles |
| 05:41.52 | roxville | elmo40, no chiropractor... back then...in the early 80's |
| 05:42.19 | roxville | i mean., they existed, but.... i couldn't afford it, and...oh well |
| 05:42.21 | hermit2 | kombucha... you can get that in teas |
| 05:42.50 | roxville | hermit2, yeah, yogi has a kombucha green tea...it's pretty good |
| 05:42.55 | elmo40 | they have been around for almost 100 years... what you mean none back then? |
| 05:42.58 | roxville | but it's not kombucha |
| 05:42.59 | hermit2 | you needed a small brother to walk on your back :) |
| 05:43.10 | elmo40 | hermit2: ;) |
| 05:43.13 | roxville | real kombucha, you have to make yourself, at home |
| 05:43.38 | hermit2 | oh, I haven't looked in to it |
| 05:43.45 | roxville | elmo40, i have been to ppl after... many years later |
| 05:44.24 | roxville | hermit2, please do! it looks kinda yucky at first... but after drinking it for a while... you can't stop |
| 05:44.24 | elmo40 | good for you :) |
| 05:44.28 | elmo40 | i go from time to time. |
| 05:44.37 | hermit2 | he was a kid, no one listens... and chiropractors can be hard to find depending on where you live and they aren't covered by a lot of insurances |
| 05:44.44 | roxville | and...it produces a baby every time you make a batch of it |
| 05:44.55 | roxville | so it's VERY economical |
| 05:44.59 | hermit2 | I don't want any more babies |
| 05:45.10 | roxville | LOL |
| 05:45.18 | hermit2 | oh you mean its like sour dough |
| 05:45.20 | roxville | LMAO |
| 05:45.32 | roxville | yeah, like sour dough :) |
| 05:45.36 | roxville | or kefir |
| 05:45.39 | elmo40 | when i was racing motorcycles, and had a FEW crashes, a year later i started going, just for the hell of it. I never knew i had such bad balance, until they repaired me! After 2 months of going, i could stand on one foot, with my eyes closed. Made racing a LOT easier too. |
| 05:46.01 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.28 | hermit2 | yup, I go when i can afford it |
| 05:46.42 | elmo40 | a session here is $15-20 |
| 05:46.53 | roxville | ok kids, i gotta get in bed... one more day with daughter before wife gets a few days off... |
| 05:46.54 | elmo40 | initial visit, $70-100 |
| 05:47.06 | elmo40 | roxville: enjoy the rest. |
| 05:47.17 | roxville | i will :) |
| 05:47.21 | roxville | thank you |
| 05:47.30 | hermit2 | nice, the guy I was seeing had a deal $70 a month and you could go as often as needed |
| 05:48.25 | roxville | http://www.kombuchatea.co.uk/ |
| 05:48.34 | roxville | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kombucha |
| 05:48.56 | elmo40 | hermit2: that is awsome! |
| 05:49.02 | elmo40 | i would go 3x per week! |
| 05:49.36 | hermit2 | Thanks roxville |
| 05:49.54 | hermit2 | ya, i use to... then he moved his practice |
| 05:50.14 | roxville | no prob... google and you'll find ppl that send you a couple of cultures for $20 or less |
| 05:50.42 | hermit2 | nice |
| 05:50.48 | roxville | it tastes great too...unless you let it sit too long... the it becomes almost like a vinegar |
| 05:50.58 | roxville | ok |
| 05:50.58 | hermit2 | hmmm |
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| 06:52.07 | GPLGeek | if anyone has to get a new motherboard anytime soon you should try http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813128014 it's cheap and it runs Linux BIOS |
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| 07:32.07 | hermit2 | Nice link GPLGeek, I think elmo40 was looking for new hardware. |
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| 08:38.17 | jnjb | hello |
| 08:39.52 | jnjb | !wiki jpg to edj |
| 08:40.51 | jnjb | Hello Thanatermesis rookmoot |
| 08:41.00 | Thanatermesis | hi jnjb |
| 08:41.28 | jnjb | your are on irc |
| 08:41.36 | jnjb | not good to you Thanatermesis |
| 08:42.23 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 08:42.31 | Thanatermesis | i have enter again after |
| 08:44.01 | jnjb | it's you that workk on elive repositoris tests |
| 08:44.23 | jnjb | excuse my poor english |
| 08:44.42 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 08:45.33 | jnjb | i installed elive 0.6.4 yesterday |
| 08:45.39 | jnjb | run pretty whell |
| 08:46.30 | jnjb | but i find how i can use backgrounds jpg or png whith e17 tests |
| 08:46.59 | jnjb | and documents i had found talk about eutils |
| 08:47.57 | jnjb | if you had an idea ? |
| 08:48.32 | Thanatermesis | do you have tried elpanel ? |
| 08:49.07 | jnjb | in tests |
| 08:49.17 | Thanatermesis | elpanel, launch it |
| 08:49.32 | jnjb | ok i try now |
| 08:55.56 | jnjb | thank Thanatermesis |
| 08:58.22 | jnjb | is it possibel ton convert most backgrounds on command line |
| 08:58.25 | jnjb | ? |
| 08:59.54 | Thanatermesis | mmh, i think to e17setroot -s |
| 09:00.08 | jnjb | ok |
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| 09:48.00 | assasukasse | morning all |
| 09:59.50 | assasukasse | on elive, what newsreader is used? pan? |
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| 11:20.26 | Elive_user51 | anyone into "Cinelarra" video editing? |
| 11:22.57 | Elive_user51 | ogm file only opens as an audio with no video track ? :( |
| 11:26.39 | Elive_user51 | could it be that it only plays jpegs, tiffs, tga and png's |
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| 12:00.51 | lordlamer | Thanatermesis, fyi: mirror works fine and traffic is ok :) |
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| 12:32.02 | assasukasse | agree |
| 12:32.10 | assasukasse | i was able to download yesterday at 440K |
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| 13:31.45 | Gl0ubI | hello all |
| 13:32.45 | Gl0ubI | somebody have clue about this : keyboard don't want to capitalise |
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| 14:40.59 | Elive_user71 | hola, estoy instalando elive |
| 14:41.10 | Elive_user71 | y ahora estoy creando una particion para guardar elive alla |
| 14:41.19 | Elive_user71 | que sistema de archivos me recomendais? por defecto esta la ext2 |
| 14:41.48 | Elive_user71 | Sorri. Anybody can speake spanish? |
| 14:45.39 | assasukasse | Elive_user71 i sort of understand but i can't speak |
| 14:46.00 | Elive_user71 | me too |
| 14:46.05 | Elive_user71 | i can understand inglish |
| 14:46.35 | Neonman | Elive_user71 #e.es |
| 14:47.00 | Elive_user71 | Thanks Neonman |
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| 15:32.11 | Gl0ubI | Hi, |
| 15:32.14 | Gl0ubI | In Elive, there is a way to manage fonts ? |
| 15:32.34 | hermit2 | yes |
| 15:32.59 | Gl0ubI | Can you tell me how ? :) |
| 15:33.23 | hermit2 | in configuration |
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| 15:33.42 | Gl0ubI | hummm, i don't find it in epanel |
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| 15:34.12 | hermit2 | try the main menu and see if there is a button for configuration |
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| 15:36.40 | Gl0ubI | sorry, i don't talk about to change font system, but know how to manage font for use it in apps :) |
| 15:37.05 | Gl0ubI | like TheGimp, OOo , etc... |
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| 15:42.48 | hermit2 | oh... |
| 15:43.14 | hermit2 | OO has the option in it. umm you mean to add new fonts to the system? |
| 15:44.21 | Gl0ubI | yes like font folder in m$ system |
| 15:44.43 | hermit2 | you can download some, then you'll need to move them to the font folder |
| 15:44.52 | hermit2 | /usr/share/fonts |
| 15:45.08 | Gl0ubI | ok, i look inside ! |
| 15:45.14 | Gl0ubI | thanks ! :) |
| 15:45.36 | hermit2 | your welcome |
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| 16:02.45 | _elmo44_ | hermit2: such a helping hand |
| 16:02.52 | _elmo44_ | people would be stuck withought you here :) |
| 16:03.12 | hermit2 | :) thanks |
| 16:03.42 | hermit2 | but i think folks got on just fine before I arrived |
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| 16:15.04 | wasynyt | good evening people |
| 16:15.20 | hermit2 | afternnoon |
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| 16:35.11 | _elmo44_ | MORNING! |
| 16:35.26 | _elmo44_ | whats with you people... living in all corners of the planet :-P |
| 16:36.34 | wasynyt | good evening _elmo44_ |
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| 16:36.49 | wasynyt | good evening trog |
| 16:37.00 | _elmo44_ | morning!! |
| 16:37.24 | trog | hi |
| 16:38.39 | wasynyt | :D |
| 16:38.54 | wasynyt | so what have you people been doing today |
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| 16:41.38 | trog | paying the rent |
| 16:41.47 | trog | and i found some money that i forgot about :) |
| 16:42.11 | wasynyt | nice |
| 16:42.11 | wasynyt | :D |
| 16:42.16 | trog | made my day |
| 16:42.38 | wasynyt | i can believe that |
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| 16:50.46 | wasynyt | good evening adamant1988 |
| 16:50.55 | adamant1988 | hello wasynyt |
| 16:51.53 | wasynyt | how are yo doing |
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| 17:00.53 | wasynyt | good evening people |
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| 17:12.50 | wasynyt | g |
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| 17:56.36 | ee_lars | hello epeople! |
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| 17:58.15 | wasynyt | good evening ee_lars |
| 17:58.55 | ee_lars | hello wasynyt |
| 17:59.00 | ee_lars | i'm surprised |
| 17:59.06 | wasynyt | ? |
| 17:59.10 | ee_lars | dererk and roxville are not there |
| 17:59.16 | ee_lars | am i on #elive ? :) |
| 17:59.17 | wasynyt | heh |
| 17:59.35 | wasynyt | :P |
| 17:59.39 | ee_lars | sinplomo : (x) |
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| 18:02.24 | wasynyt | good evening benone |
| 18:02.28 | benone | hi |
| 18:02.49 | ee_lars | hi benone |
| 18:02.51 | wasynyt | how are you doing ? |
| 18:03.07 | benone | ... |
| 18:03.09 | benone | fine |
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| 18:03.50 | wasynyt | welcome back adamant1988 |
| 18:03.56 | wasynyt | good evening mutilus |
| 18:04.10 | adamant1988 | Thanks wasynyt |
| 18:04.19 | mutilus | hello there .o/ |
| 18:04.20 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 18:06.34 | mutilus | hey, there is a big article about enlightenment in the linux format magazine i just bought |
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| 18:07.13 | mutilus | chiefly about running it on the ps3, but it gives a mention to elive |
| 18:07.14 | wasynyt | what are they saying about it ? |
| 18:07.27 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 18:08.23 | mutilus | terra soft are doing a version of yellow dog linux for the ps3, using e17 as the desktop environment |
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| 18:08.39 | wasynyt | good evening BSM |
| 18:08.41 | wasynyt | hm |
| 18:08.49 | BSM | good evening all |
| 18:09.06 | wasynyt | so what is special in ps3 version ? reduced memory footprint ? |
| 18:09.54 | mutilus | well, i don't think there's anything different about e17 for the ps3 version, but the small footprint is good for ps3, as it only has 256mb |
| 18:10.06 | wasynyt | yeah i know.. |
| 18:10.17 | wasynyt | plus th ehd are not the fastest |
| 18:10.27 | wasynyt | 5400 rpm |
| 18:10.32 | wasynyt | laptop hd |
| 18:10.52 | mutilus | that cell chip they use for the ps3 is PPC based too, which is why yellow dog is involved |
| 18:10.54 | wasynyt | but still i have used kde on pII 233 with 128 mem so.. |
| 18:11.05 | wasynyt | heh |
| 18:11.36 | ee_lars | kde should be slow on that prehistoric machine |
| 18:11.53 | wasynyt | hmm it was usable and it was not terribly slow |
| 18:12.12 | wasynyt | it was slow but it did ot halt every other second |
| 18:12.28 | ee_lars | :) |
| 18:12.32 | wasynyt | *not |
| 18:12.53 | ee_lars | i installed a xfce on a celeron 400 |
| 18:13.03 | ee_lars | it's a little catastroph |
| 18:13.08 | wasynyt | :D |
| 18:13.45 | wasynyt | hmm on that machine kde ran better than xfce... i think that xcfe was not optimized |
| 18:13.49 | mutilus | is this article it says one of the enlightenment devs tests e17 out on a 100mz pentium |
| 18:14.00 | ee_lars | hmmmm |
| 18:14.38 | wasynyt | sounds good :D |
| 18:14.46 | mutilus | i hope that is the case, cos i'm trying to buy old thinkpads off ebay :) |
| 18:15.15 | wasynyt | heh... how old ? |
| 18:15.38 | wasynyt | for few hundred you can get one with pIII |
| 18:15.47 | wasynyt | like 500-700 |
| 18:15.50 | wasynyt | mhz |
| 18:16.44 | mutilus | they go down to about 32mb, pentium I, 1.2 gb |
| 18:16.57 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 18:17.03 | mutilus | on ebay i mean |
| 18:17.06 | wasynyt | that is pretty bad :D |
| 18:17.10 | mutilus | hehe yeah |
| 18:17.10 | wasynyt | gotta go |
| 18:17.15 | wasynyt | i will be back later |
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| 18:17.59 | ee_lars | ok bye wasynyt |
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| 18:32.59 | trog | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:33.00 | trog | :D |
| 18:37.24 | sinplomo | yooooo ee_lars |
| 18:37.25 | sinplomo | (x) |
| 18:37.30 | sinplomo | what's up ? |
| 18:38.04 | ee_lars | i'm fine and you sinplomo ? :) |
| 18:38.38 | sinplomo | fine :) |
| 18:38.54 | ee_lars | i'm out for lunch i'll be back soon ^^ |
| 18:38.58 | sinplomo | ee_lars, tu connais gojira ? fleshdoll ? adagio ? tormentors of soul ? |
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| 18:53.18 | kender | hello |
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| 18:59.40 | ee_lars | sinplomo : je connais que gojira |
| 18:59.42 | ee_lars | et j'aime pas :) |
| 19:00.00 | sinplomo | xD |
| 19:00.12 | sinplomo | il vont etre au maroc :P |
| 19:00.13 | ee_lars | je les ai vu l'an dernier |
| 19:00.17 | ee_lars | ahahah |
| 19:00.21 | sinplomo | apocalyptica aussi ... |
| 19:00.40 | ee_lars | je suis pas fan non plus |
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| 19:01.13 | ee_lars | je vais au roadburn festival en avril |
| 19:01.21 | ee_lars | voir clutch et les melvins :p |
| 19:02.43 | sinplomo | ee_lars, en avril il y a un concert punk ... The Exploited |
| 19:02.55 | ee_lars | cool :) |
| 19:03.10 | ee_lars | ils sont rigolos a voir |
| 19:03.18 | ee_lars | ils étaient au fury ya 2 ans |
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| 20:39.57 | unduality | LinuxNIT, ? |
| 20:40.13 | LinuxNIT | hi |
| 20:40.40 | unduality | Hi man! Hope u ar doing fine. I got a question for you. |
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| 20:40.54 | TuxMeister | hey guys!!! |
| 20:40.56 | LinuxNIT | ok... on the phone so my response might be slow |
| 20:41.01 | LinuxNIT | (on hold atm) |
| 20:41.05 | TuxMeister | sup LinuxNIT |
| 20:41.10 | LinuxNIT | sup |
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| 20:41.59 | TuxMeister | how are things around here??? |
| 20:42.15 | unduality | I installed elive on a friends computer. He absolutely LOVED it (He has only experienced a hd-install of knoppix before). It is a dualboot with win. Everything worked flawlessly... untill |
| 20:42.19 | unduality | ... |
| 20:43.00 | TuxMeister | unduality, that's pretty much the reaction of people who see Elive for the first time |
| 20:44.32 | TuxMeister | *nneeeeng |
| 20:44.35 | unduality | It broke completeley because of no reason at all. He tells me that it just stops after grub, trying to load (the kernel i belive)but nothing happens after that it just try to load and gets novere. Do you know why this could happen LinuxNIT ? |
| 20:45.02 | unduality | Did windows do it? |
| 20:45.07 | LinuxNIT | one moment |
| 20:45.12 | unduality | sure |
| 20:46.06 | unduality | Howdy TuxMeister. |
| 20:46.11 | TuxMeister | unduality, sure winblows did it.. the OS it's in fact a complete SPYWARE! |
| 20:46.40 | unduality | Yepp its a damn virus.. |
| 20:47.00 | TuxMeister | yeah... you can tell |
| 20:48.32 | unduality | Has anyone seen if lontra has been around here at the irc lately? |
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| 20:49.04 | TuxMeister | unduality, don't even know him/her... |
| 20:49.24 | unduality | (Canadian university guy that study sea-otters) |
| 20:49.38 | unduality | used to hang here before... |
| 20:50.05 | TuxMeister | you said it dude... USED to... |
| 20:51.06 | unduality | How long time has you used elive TuxMeister ? |
| 20:51.25 | TuxMeister | well... lemme tell ya somethin'... |
| 20:51.43 | TuxMeister | i'm using it even before it existed ;) |
| 20:52.07 | TuxMeister | I and Thanatermesis are good pals... we started working "toghether" on Tezcatlipotix |
| 20:52.15 | TuxMeister | so... LOOOOONG TIME! jeje |
| 20:52.17 | LinuxNIT | unduality, what is the error? |
| 20:52.28 | LinuxNIT | is it acutally booting the kernel? |
| 20:53.14 | unduality | No |
| 20:53.21 | LinuxNIT | so grub errors? |
| 20:54.03 | unduality | that, or the kernel is destroyed or something.. |
| 20:54.26 | unduality | grub launches his damn windows still... |
| 20:54.33 | LinuxNIT | does it TRY and boot? |
| 20:54.39 | LinuxNIT | does it start scrolling infor mation? |
| 20:54.45 | unduality | No |
| 20:54.57 | LinuxNIT | ok what is the error msg? |
| 20:55.00 | unduality | He told me on the phone that... |
| 20:56.13 | LinuxNIT | well with out the error msg i dunno :-/ |
| 20:56.37 | unduality | there is a "graphical" parameter indikating loading from left to right, and that it slowly fills the empty space on the bar but never leaves that stage and comes to the bashwindowthingie... |
| 20:57.20 | LinuxNIT | on installed mode? |
| 20:57.24 | unduality | yes |
| 20:57.27 | LinuxNIT | hmmm |
| 20:59.06 | TuxMeister | seems like the pc went down a cliff or somethin'... |
| 20:59.07 | LinuxNIT | i dont know unduality... it dosnet make sense... i guess you could install a new kernel from chroot and see if that fixes it |
| 20:59.33 | unduality | I think this is what he sees: http://opensuse.us/CROUSE/IMAGES/10.1/border_p1010006.jpg |
| 21:00.10 | LinuxNIT | as far as i can remember that "box" only shows up on livecd boot |
| 21:00.42 | unduality | Yeah, thats how it is on my sys too. |
| 21:00.59 | LinuxNIT | is he trying to use the livecd to boot the installed os? |
| 21:01.01 | unduality | Only on the livecd there is a box |
| 21:01.13 | LinuxNIT | maybe he dosent realize what hes doing |
| 21:01.30 | unduality | But hes sys is defective now so that should be the case why it shows up. |
| 21:01.44 | unduality | No, no |
| 21:02.54 | unduality | Could it be grub that has been messed up by some windows software and now fail to acces the kernel? |
| 21:03.12 | LinuxNIT | if i remember correctly the livecd has options to boot different partitions. if he tells it to boot partition 1 it will probably boot windows just fine.... if for instance he tells it to boot partition 3 it might have trouble depending on how you set up partitions |
| 21:03.27 | LinuxNIT | i say this cause if i remember right... that box is onl y on the livecd |
| 21:03.38 | LinuxNIT | in which case grub on the hard drive is not used |
| 21:03.52 | LinuxNIT | just ask him to check if the cd is in the drive |
| 21:04.38 | LinuxNIT | as for windows software screwing it up i dunno... even harder to say with out an error msg :( |
| 21:04.40 | unduality | I already did. And then he tried to boot the partition with the live cd but without success |
| 21:05.27 | LinuxNIT | i dont know |
| 21:05.44 | unduality | If it atleast was a kernal panic (wow i never recalled ever longing for THAT) |
| 21:05.53 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 21:06.16 | LinuxNIT | what version of elive? |
| 21:06.39 | unduality | How do i choot a new kernel LinuxNIT ? |
| 21:06.47 | LinuxNIT | what version of elive? |
| 21:07.03 | unduality | The one before the very latest version |
| 21:07.13 | LinuxNIT | boot a livecd.... chroot /installed/systems/mount/location |
| 21:07.18 | LinuxNIT | then use apt to install one |
| 21:07.42 | LinuxNIT | im almost positive that anything prior to 0.6.3 does not have graphical boot... |
| 21:07.49 | unduality | (Its the 0.6.3) |
| 21:07.53 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 21:08.07 | LinuxNIT | i still dont think it has that box... but i can reboot if you want me to check |
| 21:09.04 | LinuxNIT | for chroot.... if the system is insatlled on hda3 and mounted on /mnt/hda3 then run this |
| 21:09.09 | LinuxNIT | chroot /mnt/hda3 |
| 21:09.13 | LinuxNIT | as root |
| 21:09.35 | LinuxNIT | then the commands you run will be running as if you are using that system |
| 21:09.47 | unduality | I dont think it has the box either, when everything is working, that only seem to happen if the system is broken like in his case. There was no box as far as i can remember all the times we booted the system after the flawless installation |
| 21:10.13 | LinuxNIT | thats why i think the cd is in the drive :-/ |
| 21:10.18 | LinuxNIT | any way i have to make some phone calls |
| 21:10.31 | LinuxNIT | sorry :( |
| 21:10.52 | unduality | But it is defenitly not. I asked him twice and he opened the cdrom |
| 21:11.04 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 21:12.05 | unduality | Ok, But hey, thanx alot for the help and the advice with choot. I might pop in here tomorrow when im at his place. Cu around LinuxNIT ! |
| 21:12.16 | LinuxNIT | your welcome |
| 21:12.23 | unduality | Tnx! |
| 21:20.05 | TuxMeister | i'm outta here... xD need to find some papers for tomorrow.. but.. I'LL BE BACK... |
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| 21:51.18 | assasukasse | hi everyone |
| 21:53.38 | bouba_ | ciao assasukasse sei it vero? :) |
| 21:53.53 | assasukasse | si |
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| 21:53.59 | assasukasse | dimmi bouba_ |
| 21:54.24 | bouba_ | niente volevo salutare un paesà! |
| 21:54.26 | bouba_ | :S |
| 21:54.57 | xbow_ | hi, all. |
| 21:55.19 | assasukasse | allora ciao :D |
| 21:55.27 | bouba_ | hi |
| 21:55.34 | assasukasse | hi xbow_ |
| 21:56.28 | xbow_ | have question: is elive multiligual? |
| 21:56.41 | bouba_ | yes |
| 21:57.07 | xbow_ | and is it support russian? |
| 21:57.25 | bouba_ | let me check |
| 21:58.24 | bouba_ | ummm |
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| 21:59.21 | xbow_ | bouba_, negative? |
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| 21:59.28 | bouba_ | whait :) |
| 21:59.48 | xbow_ | ok :) |
| 21:59.59 | hermit2 | what does the word russian look like in your native language? |
| 22:00.11 | bouba_ | http://it.geocities.com/jolanda_81/elive/language.jpg |
| 22:00.50 | bouba_ | assasukasse te lo gestisci bene l'inglese?:D |
| 22:01.21 | assasukasse | si certo |
| 22:01.27 | assasukasse | sono bilingue |
| 22:01.32 | bouba_ | magnifico |
| 22:01.43 | bouba_ | mi vorresti aiutare? |
| 22:01.43 | bouba_ | :D |
| 22:01.57 | assasukasse | se posso, pero' sbrigati che tra poco vado a nanna, domani si laura |
| 22:02.10 | xbow_ | bouba_, i see. thanks |
| 22:02.19 | bouba_ | io sono un caprone, ho scritto questa mini review, mi aiuti a CORREGGERLA? e aggiungere alcune parti? quando hai tempo naturalmente |
| 22:02.22 | bouba_ | http://it.geocities.com/jolanda_81/elive/elive_rev.html |
| 22:02.31 | bouba_ | ;) xbow_ |
| 22:02.56 | bouba_ | please non aprire tutte le immagini che ho la banda limitata:D |
| 22:04.26 | assasukasse | bouba_ come faccio a correggerla non ho i privilegi per l'edit |
| 22:04.48 | bouba_ | si lo so. devo trovare un modo |
| 22:06.44 | bouba_ | se vuoi ti mando per posta l'html |
| 22:06.45 | bouba_ | :) |
| 22:06.48 | assasukasse | bouba_ facciamo cosi', mandami l'html per posta, che domani appena ho tempo te lo edito e rispedisco |
| 22:06.50 | assasukasse | oppure ancora meglio |
| 22:07.05 | assasukasse | metti tutto su un opendocument |
| 22:07.08 | assasukasse | che faccio prima |
| 22:07.38 | bouba_ | ce l'ho già, però è grandino 4,5 mb perchè ci sono tutte le immagini. te le tolgo e te lo mando :D |
| 22:07.51 | bouba_ | dammi la mail. comunque non c'è fretta! :) |
| 22:07.55 | bouba_ | quando hai voglia/tempo |
| 22:07.58 | bouba_ | :) |
| 22:08.13 | assasukasse | bouba_ ti ho mandato la mail via query |
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| 22:13.13 | assasukasse | e arrivata o no |
| 22:13.34 | bouba_ | mo la mando |
| 22:14.37 | bouba_ | fatto! |
| 22:16.10 | bouba_ | che vergogna! quanti errori:D |
| 22:26.46 | bouba_ | hi all go to sleep:D |
| 22:26.48 | bouba_ | bye |
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| 22:46.55 | ghatak | can you add terminals in tabs like we can do in fluxbox ? |
| 22:49.50 | ghatak | As it is a very easy way to manage a large number of terminal windows, unless Eterm supports tabs |
| 22:50.11 | hermit2 | I'm not familar with fluxbow so I don't know what you mean by tabs but you can add terminal to the ibar and/or the menu list or just hit ctrl+alt+ins to bring up a terminal |
| 22:51.01 | hermit2 | those kind of tabs I don't know if you can do |
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| 22:51.28 | hermit2 | GPLGeek, does eterm suppost tabs? |
| 22:51.32 | ghatak | hermit2: how do you arrange terminals, lets say if you have like 20 open, and you need them all at very regular basis |
| 22:51.33 | GPLGeek | god has blessed us with rain today, and yet we make blood out of it. |
| 22:51.37 | GPLGeek | hermit2, yes |
| 22:52.04 | GPLGeek | people drive too fast/stupid it was funny this guy TOTALED his car just trying to get out of a parking lot |
| 22:52.22 | ghatak | GPLGeek: what!! was he drunk ? |
| 22:52.22 | GPLGeek | he was flying around a corner and spun out and hit the sidewalk, broke both his axels on his car |
| 22:52.26 | hermit2 | ouch... does not pay to be in a hurry |
| 22:52.39 | GPLGeek | ghatak, probably just stupid |
| 22:53.00 | ghatak | crazy idiots |
| 22:53.06 | GPLGeek | they call them "rice rockets" |
| 22:53.24 | GPLGeek | civics or other cheep cars then they put 50,000$ into them to make them fast |
| 22:53.28 | GPLGeek | they use NOS in parking lots |
| 22:53.42 | ghatak | GPLGeek: ahh street racer |
| 22:53.49 | GPLGeek | one of them hit my friend and killed him a while back and now that guy is in Jail waiting trial |
| 22:53.59 | GPLGeek | ghatak, most of them dont actually race |
| 22:54.02 | GPLGeek | they just have it to have it |
| 22:54.07 | GPLGeek | and they use it at stupid times |
| 22:54.14 | GPLGeek | like parking, or going thorugh school zones |
| 22:54.20 | ghatak | GPLGeek: that kinda money will make me drift without wheels, at least that guy was in a car |
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